Trading Secrets - 206. Disneyland Roundtable with Justin Glaze, Susie Evans, Blake Horstmann, and Giannina Gibelli!

Episode Date: October 28, 2024

This week, Jason is joined by Justin Glaze, Susie Evans, Blake Horstmann and Giannina Gibelli post Disneyland visit! In this roundtable, Jason breaks down some of the numbers that went into their Disneyland visit, each reveal their personal highlight of the trip, Susie explains what it was like working as a performer for Disney in Japan, the mentality of being guilt-free while on Disney property, how blessed they feel to continue having opportunities since their time on reality TV, if they would have done anything differently, the longevity of the career in the creator space, and not letting yourself fail. What number goal have they set for themselves in their career? How great is each of their Disney knowledge?  Justin, Susie, Blake, and Giannina reveal all that and so much more in another episode you can’t afford to miss!                                                     Host: Jason Tartick Co-Host: David Arduin Audio: John Gurney Guests: Giannina Gibelli, Blake Horstmann, Justin Glaze, & Susie Evans Susie’s Podcast: Live, Laugh, Lies Stay connected with the Trading Secrets Podcast!  Instagram: @tradingsecretspodcast  Youtube: Trading Secrets Facebook: Join the Group All Access: Free 30-Day Trial  Trading Secrets Steals & Deals! Indeed: If you need to hire, you need Indeed. Indeed is your matching and hiring platform, with over 350 Million global monthly visitors, according to Indeed data, and a matching engine that helps you find quality candidates FAST. To get a $75 SPONSORED JOB CREDIT to get your jobs more visibility visit Indeed.com/secrets Quince: Upgrade your wardrobe with pieces made to last with Quince. Go to Quince.com/tradingsecrets for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Monarch Money: Monarch is the top-rated, all-in-one personal finance app. You get a comprehensive view of all your accounts, investments, transactions and more. Plus, Monarch helps you make smart money moves to get you closer to your goals. And now get an extended thirty-day free trial when you go to Monarchmoney.com/SECRETS BetterHelp: If you’re thinking of starting therapy, give BetterHelp a try. It’s entirely online. Designed to be convenient, flexible, and suited to your schedule. Take off the mask, with BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp.com/tradingsecrets today to get 10% off your first month. *Trading Secrets is sponsored by BetterHelp Cornbread: America’s first ever USDA THC Gummy.  A natural and healthier way to experience a carefree moment with a 1:1 ratio of THC to CBD. For 30% off your order visit https://www.cornbreadhemp.com/pages/trading-secrets and use code TRADINGSECRETS

Welcome back to another episode of Trading Secrets. I'm your host, Jason Tardick. Welcome to the pre-market trading segment. We're going to tell you a little bit about our guests, a quick update from the market and something going on in my personal life. And then we're going to ring in the bell with the main segment. now typically after the main segment of course we have the curious canadian on for the recap where we talk all things but we have four people on today's episode so five including myself we have jeanina jabelli blake horseman we have susy evans and justing glaze we were all at disneyland with visit anaheim and as a result of that i having five people on this episode where we talk literally all things you know there are some people on this podcast who have been in the the space of social media and digital media and reality TV for seven, eight years. So we talk about all the things, biggest regrets, learning lessons, where they want to take their career,

what's going on with Justin Suzy, all the stuff. Because we have so many voices on this episode, this is going to be a different intro. It's not going to just be me. We're not going to do a recap. It's going to be me in the curious Canadian. Before I bring him in, what I'm going to ask you guys to do is give us five stars, give us a review, and we are doing a big giveaway. We're next week in the recap. We are going to give three people who give us reviews, something from what we joke around and call the influencer closet. It is all different products and things that I'm sent via PR and things like that that I'm going to give away. So we have three things to give away. Just give us five stars and a review on the show or who you want us to have us on. With that

being said, let's bring in the one, the only, the curious Canadian, David Ardoin. How are we doing? I'm sitting across me, so I'm great. This is nice. It is nice. Nice change of pace, not looking at your face through the Zoom screen. But it's good. It's nice to have you here in my basement, in my home, Rochester, New York. So thanks for coming up this way. Yeah, came up for 48 hours, see David.

We got to see his hockey team today. Saw our good friend Hawk Jameson, and it's just been a nice chill weekend. Just a chill weekend with the boys. A little extended birthday weekend. So always good to see, always, you know, having some good, wholesome fun. And this episode was good, wholesome fun. We had four previously returner guests that we've had on the podcast all together in the same space. One might say trading secrets royalty amongst the table there.

And it was good. It was good banter. It was a good one of those podcasts where you just feel like you're in the room, you know, eaves dropping on people's conversations. That's what the feel was like. So vibes were definitely high. Would you say vibes are high down there in Anaheim? Oh, vibes were high.

And this was just after we went to Club 33, which is like kind of a, how would you describe Club 33 because what people might not know is you are a big Disney guy. I turned big Disney guy. My family is actually Lifetime Disney members, which I didn't know was a thing. What does that mean? Basically, it's glorified hotel points that you're on like a 50 year plan for. So you can use them all across any Disney property. You get a certain amount of year to use with the membership. So that's how that works. But Club 33, I've never been in one. I've never seen it. I don't want to hear your experience because I've heard a lot of things. Yeah, I mean, first of all, landing in Anaheim, beautiful city. Then we get to Disney.

Unbelievable. And then Club 33, there's this, like, secret door. And you have to, like, get access through the secret door, like, knock, knock. And then you check in, and then they bring you up this big set of stairs. And they say Walt Disney's office was in Club 33. And the food was great, right outside. They had, like, fireworks and all that stuff. But it had, like, um, like it felt, I don't know. I felt like Walt's like, like, ghost Walt was up there. You know what I'm saying? It's got kind of that, like, you know, Casper? You know, the show Casper? It gave me a little Casper vibes. I've also heard a lot of things of Club 33 of celebrities who are members there,

high-profile celebrities, selling the access to it or giving it away in charities, which are not allowed to do. So I've heard some controversy around the old Club 33. So it's just one of those things where I don't think the juice is worth to squeeze, but people have it anyway, maybe as a status symbol. So interested to hear that you went there for sure. Did you're, I mean, you're a big Disney guy or you're now a Disney guy because if you're in-laws, do they do, like, have they gone to Club 33?

I don't think so. I can check with them. I'm actually going to Disney next week. So I will check back, report back with you with the family. For my people listening to this that have not been to Disney, would you recommend them going? I've only been to Disney World, so I'll put a disclaimer in absolutely yes. Absolutely 100% yes.

Go if you're in your 30s, 40s, 20s, 50s, go with just your spouse. If you have kids, go with your kids. If you have in-laws, you have grandma and grandpa, go with them. You can go with anybody. And like they said, a lot of them, you guys talked about your experience. It just brings out the kid in you. It just has some joyous energy and oxygen in the air. And it is a magical, expensive, magical place.

Speaking of expensive trading secrets, we talk's numbers here, I was blow it away that the ticket price was $250 per person to just get in. And I'm thinking about how many people are entering those doors. And then if you do the VIP package, which is where you get to cut the lines, you know, it's about $6 to $800 an hour. And you have to get, I think it's at least eight hours. But it can add up. It can add up fast.

It's expensive, but it is, you know, it's a heck of a place. Yep. And it's a place I feel like you have to go in your life once. There's no doubt about it. I agree. So Anaheim and Disneyland, that was the play. A quick little market update for everyone. We are recording this on Sunday, October 27th.

On Sunday, October 27th, we have nine days until the election. So first and foremost, make sure you go vote. It is our right. It is everything that we have been given the opportunity and freedom. to execute on go vote. What I'll also talk about, too, is Vegas odds. We talk numbers on this podcast, so let's just talk Vegas odds,

which can switch at literally the drop of a dime. Like in a football game, one interception, the odds can change. But right now, the odds of the U.S. presidential election futures, according to odds checker.com, there's Donald Trump at a minus 149, which means he's about a one-and-a-half favorite, where odds have them around 60% winning, and Kamala Harris is at plus 154, and they have her at an odds around 39 to 40% winning. So if you put $149 up for Trump to win, you would get paid $100 back.

If you put $100 up for Kamala to win, you would then get paid $154. So nine days until election day, make sure you go vote. David, anything else on this episode before we do, what's very unlike us doing a recap in the intro. Well, I just, maybe a little question, quick, really quick. Justin Susie, is that, is that a thing? You don't, did you get vibes? Is it a thing? I don't think it was confirmed. Is it confirmed?

Do I have to listen to the episode and find out? Let me ask you. You listen to the whole episode based on what you listen to? What do you think? I think you don't go to Disneyland with just your friend who you've dated before. And that's just what I think. There's the curious Canadians take. Let's get your take.

And you'll get your take by listening to this episode. Of course, I have to ask them. And if you think I'm dancing around it a little bit throughout the episode, just wait till the end because then I just straight up point blank ask them. David, anything else before we ring them in? No, great to have you here. And great to have the crew back together on this episode.

I hope you guys enjoy. It's good to be back for 48 hours in Rochester, New York, and take a stroll down memory lane on trading secrets with four legends. Let's ring in the bell. Let's go to Anaheim and Disneyland with Gianina, Blake, Justin and Susie. Welcome back to another episode of Trading Secrets. We are here live in Anaheim at J.W. We were at Disneyland all day.

And we are here to talk about the numbers, the dollars, the cents. Also a little career update, maybe a little personal update, maybe a little financial update. All the things we do on Trading Secrets, we're doing it right here, right now at midnight. To my far left, he's flirting with the girl to his right, but his name is Justin Glaze. He has been in the Bachelor Nation game since 2020. One? Veteran. Better it.

We're going to talk a little bit about where his career has gone and where he's come. To his right, the girl he was flirting with. Let you guys make your own judgment. Susie Evans to my left. Now here's the catch, Susie. Once Upon a Time, you used to work for Disney in Japan. That's incredible. Full circle, we'll get to that.

All right, Giannina Jebeli, no stranger to the show. No one here is a stranger to the show. You guys announced your relationship on this show. Unbelievable. Oh, yeah. We did. To my far right, Genea Jovelli, you have been in The Loves Blind Game you guys taped in 2018. You then went live in 2020.

You are now dating Blake Horsman. You have a beautiful dating. All right, and to her left, they are confirmed in dating. They're dating. We are dating. We are dating. Blake Horsman, 2018, Becca Coofer, season 14 of The Bachelorette. Bachelor of Paradise Got You Good.

Battled Back MTV to Challenge. Found the better half. Now have a son. You've been in the game for this is your seventh year. How we're good at this? Wow. How would we feel?

That was about him. Feeling good, man. Yeah. All right. No, let's get into Disney. Happiest place on Earth, baby. I got some numbers today. They said they do around $10 million in revenue a day.

40,000 people walk through those doors. Our tickets today were $250 each. We had a tour guy that was with us. They say it ranges from $600 to $800, and you have to book that person for a minimum of seven hours. So that's $56. $600 that does not include the actual tickets. For me, like, this was such a unbelievable experience.

I see why people travel all over the world for that. It's once in a lifetime. I want to go through everyone's peaks today. If you haven't been to Disneyland, no matter what age you are, everyone go through at the park. Was he the ride? Was it a food? What was your highest high that had to do with the actual park

as we just went over the numbers? We'll start with Justin. Mine was a mixture of the food and the nostalgia. So I'm a big espresso martini guy and right time, right place. We're here in October. They had a lot of seasonal treats. So they had a pumpkin spice espresso martini, which spoke to my soul. You think Waltz look at it?

I do. You think Walt's like washing it's like, I made. Yeah, they keep the lights on for him. They keep the lights. True story. He's frozen. And I think he, legend has it. I hear they have an actual window so that you can watch the fire.

fireworks every night. In Clubs 33, they have the window that gives the perfect view for fireworks. That's where Walt's desk was supposed to be. So your peak is that Walt is here. Sue is set that, not me. What was your peak? You had a great day in Disneyland. What was it about today? It's two part. One, the food. The food's incredible. The food is fun. It's like really fun. It's really festive and it's guilt-free because we literally got 20,000 steps in. But Jason gnawed that turkey, like, down to the marrow. That turkey, like, honestly, Disneyland, I'm all here for you. That turkey leg was disgusting. But everything else was amazing.

Oh, everything else was like incredible. That cheesy garlic bread. The pineapple. The pineapple. No, no, no, no, the coffee. The Giardelli Sunday. The pumpkin fritters. The pumpkin fritters.

So good. And it's all guilt-free because you literally walk it off. So that's part one. Part two is just like the nostalgia as well. I grew up a Disney magic person thinking, oh, my gosh, like, blah, blah, blah. You were. But that's the thing. As an adult, I started to believe in the magic.

And then being there today, I was like, the magic is real. Like, you see the little kids. You see how special it is. It's real. Like, everything is real to those people that, like, actually embrace it and, like, believe in it. And that's what's so special. It's crazy because you can literally be 38 years old and think that the characters are real. That's true.

Even when they're robots. We got to talk about this. What, like, princesses were you? Like, tell everyone. I wasn't any princess because the princesses are real. So I just knew them. The magic is real. So I actually wasn't a princess.

I just knew the princesses. What did you do when you worked in Japan for Disney? I was a performer. Okay. Yeah, but, like, the magic is real. The princesses are real. Any place that you'll be in the park there won't. You'll never see, like, a princess in fantasy land, but also in, like, Tune town.

because like snowways only she only exists like she is one she is so there's not like multiple like princesses of the same princess yeah you'll never run into the same princess there's just snow white and she just exists exactly where she exists so like the details yeah it's all real all right trading secrets we talk numbers here what do you get paid for something like that it depends on the park in what country you're in i think Tokyo is one of the better ones i believe it was a week for my salary and then they put us up so I didn't have to pay rent and then you got $50 a day per diem. And you're at this age. How old are you at this age? I was 22. You decided to go to Japan to do that. What is the next career step? For me, it was like just an adventure. For a lot of

people, it's definitely a career move for performance. So a lot of people go on to perform until they're like in their 30s and then a lot of people I know do cruise ships or my dream job. I would love to retire as a cruise ship singer. Can you give you a beat? No. Baccum, Matat, Akun, Matat, Akun, Matta. Okay, but like, do you sing? It means no worry.

Oh, that's good. You go. No, no, no, no. I feel like y'all too. If you could have one karaoke song, what would you sing? Oh, that's really good. I would choose a Disney song, part of your world, like Ariel EZ. I feel like that's amazing.

I love it. See, that's like just Disney. She goes crazy. But you can sing, too. Yeah. All right, Gianita, your peak. The adrenaline. You know, you become a kid again.

Yeah. And you're just more, you know, loose and free and running around and, like, wearing Mickey Ears, like some shit that I would ever do. But I bought, like, $25 Mickey Ears, which also the merch. How much you spent a merch today? He. Spent way too much. How much would you say? Like 400?

400, but in what you bought, what you was? We got four things. Yeah, we got two Mickey Ears. Two Mickey ears. A T-shirt and two sweatshirts. And a sweater. Oh, and a dog toy. And a baby Mickey.

Okay, $400. $400. $400. Yeah, $400. There's just bliss everywhere. The food's incredible. The weather's unbelievable. And then there's such nostalgia

because you're seeing these rides and these places that bring you back to like your childhood self, which is ugly. And I'll say this soon. I think Susie can touch it on too. There's something about Disneyland as like completely guilt-free. Like what you eat, how much money to spend. Like I was like $400.

Normally I'd be like, like, what? Like, we turn half of that, but I was like, we're dizzy, like, drop them with, yeah, I was like, put the card down. You know what I mean? So there's something about Disney that's just like, I don't know, it's very free. Yeah, it's very free. I want to bring it back. I've brought up the years that you guys started in this game. One thing I want to ask about is, so you've been in this game now three years, been in this game, two years.

We've come to you guys in a second here. But, like, I was thinking about you, too, and I don't, you know, whatever, answer however you will. But you're here. You're at Disneyland. People were asking for pictures of YouTube. There were times you guys didn't even know it. I saw people taking videos of YouTube. Are you at all worried about

what could come from that of you guys walking together? Like, does that still, do you still think through that? You're just like, no, we're here, I don't care. I think we're on the ladder. I feel like, yeah, I think all of us at this table can agree it's really hard when people are so curious about your life. It's not so hard. It's not so hard. We're so blessed.

But there are elements of that that are challenging as you're, like, navigating parts of your life. When people are really curious about your life, which we all totally understand. But, yeah, I think that we've just found a way to be very, I don't know, authentic with ourselves and do what is best for us individually and together and not worry about what that illusion might look like to outsiders. At least that's how I feel. I saw the person taking the video. I thought you guys would have been, like, flinched, or ever, you didn't care at all. That sounds beautiful.

Do you have anything mad to that or no? I'd say, like, as long as we're protecting ourselves and doing what's best for us. Protecting is the biggest word. Got to protect. Thank you for sharing that. Go back to you guys. You think about 2024, you're here out of trip. You're representing Anna and you're representing Disneyland.

Did you think seven, five years from now? This would still be the case and that your career is at its pinnacle now and what you're taking away from that? It's like, we must have done something right. You know, we're very lucky and blessed to be able to still do this. Like, you know, we just went to see that had an amazing time, you know, we're hanging out with this, Anaheim and J.W. Mirion. It's like, I don't know, I feel very blessed sometimes and all the time. And, no, I didn't think I'd still be here.

You know what I mean? Like, I know there's been, like, ups and down. No, really. That's such a rare thing in this space. I'm, like, blindly optimistic. And I'm, like, naturally rose-colored glasses. And that's why I found myself in situations that have been tricky at times just because I'm like, it's all going to work out.

And then I'm like publicly humiliated internationally multiple times. But I always think that like one thing leads to another. And if I have good intentions, I'm always going to keep going up. And I mean, I'm not always like happy or lucky all the time. I have like moments where I'm just like like, you know, how is this going to turn out? But I mind trick myself every single time that I have like any doubt or anything. like that, just because of how my life has worked out so far, history is just showing me that it's just going to keep working out. Does that make sense? It does, but when you say you're

internationally humiliated for the people that are listening to us that say that, like, they're at their lowest low, like, how are you still putting roseglass on? What are you saying to yourself to get you over that? I survived the worst, so this is nothing compared to that. And in hindsight, I'm going to just psychoanalyze myself. A lot of things happened in childhood where if a lot of things happen in your childhood and if you can overcome like those hard moments when you're you know younger then I think you just kind of hardwire yourself to like overcome things in the future things get hard and things get tough like I was telling you yesterday it's like nurture versus nature things are going to happen always things are going to happen in your career things are going to happen in your personal life but it's how you deal with it that you either can stay there and rot or overcome it and thrive but in since you have been in the limelight, what's the biggest regret you have? This is so cheesy. I don't have any regrets.

I was trying to find the darkness in this rose glass. You know, they say there's no such thing as regret because at a certain point in time it's exactly what you want. There's not one thing you would have. No, and you know why? Because now I have Heath. I was just going to say Heath. And if I didn't do everything that I would have, like, regretted, then I wouldn't have, like...

We run around the table at dinner today. What was the best thing today? And I feel the majority of us were like, it was. our time with Heath. That was special. I mean, we love Heath. I think that was just your answer. Oh, okay. But we all felt it. He's adorable. He's amazing.

It's like, I'm ready. We've all had our trials and tribulations, right? Like, with things that have worked on and haven't worked out and had to address it and haven't had to address, like, everyone here at the table through reality TV in some capacity has had it. 2018, you go back deep. Is there anything you would have done differently?

So if you would ask me that question a year ago, two years ago, I maybe would have said something but when I have Heath and I look at Heath and I'm like man everything led up to this yeah

what I mean everything led up oh mazel top bottle's popping bring Eminen everyone knows I was took my own eye out two years ago

what would your biggest regret of that in a bit of it anyway it would have been like I wish I had been I actually never talked about this I wish I had been more vocal during the reunion saying what

I've thought about this so many depth no I think I would have been a little bit more I think I just would have been a little bit more vocal. I think I, at that point, I was so beaten down that I just kind of like coward. And I wish I would have been. And they tried to get me to apologize because they sat there.

And I'm so proud of myself for not more or less apologizing for, you know, the text message or any of that. I'm so bad I didn't. But like they tried so hard. I was so beaten down at that point. I just wanted it to be over. And I was just like, you know, just give me out of here. But I wish I would have been a little bit more like chest up, like nose in the air. Like, I don't know.

I wish I would say. Like this is wrong and this is right. I'm glad I did what I did, blah, blah, blah, blah. I just want to get out of there so bad. I was so beaten down at that point. So you go under the clearhead, you're regulated, you weren't then. Now you're regulated. You go back there.

You protest for yourself. What does it do for you today, though? Like, professionally, financially, everything. So that's a fantastic question because I don't think it would have done anything other than just, like, help me. Like, I don't think it would help my career, yeah, hurt my career. And even now. You just feel like you wouldn't hold weight towards it, you say? I don't even really hold weight towards it anymore.

But I think the first, like, two years right after, paradise. I think it might have helped my mental health there a little bit because, you know, I'd go to like therapy or whatever and that would be like the only thing I talked about. I wish I would have said this, we should have done this. But like now it wouldn't, it wouldn't have really changed anything other than maybe personally, like mentally. It might have helped my, you know, first year or two there. But also maybe that would, you know, brought up. Maybe you know something. Yeah, if you do, damned if you don't. Yeah, exactly. I say something and it gets taken a different way or they didn't edit something out or they edited a different way and then I'm

even worse I was, you know. So yeah, I think like if you told me, I'm going to, if you said, tomorrow you are going to die like you're done i know it's morbid but my biggest regret would be not speaking my truth but at the same point it's like what good does that serve exactly and and what respect does that do to some of the privacy in in things that at once was had and it's like you don't have to i don't know sometimes i'm i bet trust me i go back i'm like i don't have to go there but i should go there my pride should go there by it's a lot of places you could go it's such a my biggest pride or you know one of my biggest points of whatever being proud of myself is that i went high when other people went low and it stayed high and to this day i'm praised yeah about it and it helps

because then you know you think about it and you're like you're right like i didn't have to do anything because they did the work for me yeah and the truth's true the truth pull out always and karma is real the truth always does surface it might take a long time but it will but sometimes in that process. It feels like you're Rocky Balboa with four fucking black guys who came and breed trying to just make it to the top. And here we are. Justin Susie, when you look back of your career of the public spotlight, things have taken a turn. You guys have taken off both your directions. The biggest thing you would have done differently. Justin will start with you. Like just with reality TV? Yeah, since since like this career has come to

fruition for you. Honestly, not to like give like a easy out answer. Like not. Not Because there's nothing, the things that I ultimately faced turmoil over were out of my control. The thing that the more tumultuous times throughout my reality TV career came almost like unbeknownst to me. Yeah. And what I mean by that is like the way that I conducted myself while filming, like I don't regret a single thing. I like that. But the way things were portrayed kind of came as a surprise to me and things that I learned and, you know, when things came to light of like how the operation was handled,

you know, that were unbeknownst to me is like, ultimately what I faced some sort of backlash over. So I don't, I mean, like, I pride myself when I was filming, like, staying in front of me. So some of those surprises with, like, edits and the way things turned out and the way things were maneuvered, you looked as, like, I grew to a level that put me in a better spot. Like, it sounds like you're like, I was shocked by some of the, these things that happened, but it also put me to where I am today. Is that right? I wouldn't say put me where I am, but I was like, yeah, I was surprised by the way some things unfolded. Yeah. But, like, I don't regret a single conversation I had. I don't regret

a single way that I, like, went about anything. I'm sure, I mean, honestly, I could have probably done better in some areas, but for the most part, I feel like I represented myself and my family and my friends well. Yeah. But there's things like once you leave filming that are out of your control, then I feel like, you know, watch Meg was like, well, that's interesting. That's how that went. Yeah. And ultimately, like, that's why, like, you know, things that I got hate for, but I wouldn't say that that necessarily put me in a certain position.

I think that as cliche and cheesy as it is, I think me being me and being able to stay headstrong and know who I am and stay confident in who I am, despite any of that is what's gotten me to where I am. I love it. Susie, when it comes to the creator space, you've done very well, you've excelled, You've got a podcast now, looking back on when you started versus today, just in the creator space, what has been your biggest learning lesson as far as that profession goes? I was saying this earlier at Dinnerton G.

I was saying, like, the biggest thing I've had to really work on is advocating for myself. I can fight for anyone sitting beside me if my friends are going through something. If somebody approaches somebody and does something inappropriate, I will be the first person to shut it down and stand up and fight for justice. I think that there's a part of me that's just like, I know I'll be okay. So I'm like, I don't care. I'll let it go. I'll let it go. But from the time that I was on the show, until now, the biggest learning curve for me is that you have to advocate for yourself.

And I think that's a business thing that I just never really thought I would have to address and shape within myself. Because I don't know. I just didn't really think that was like a tool. I don't know why, but I just didn't really. I think it's like it's tough because at your core, like you're a kind person. And sometimes people, unfortunately, like, will take your. kindness and take advantage of you. Yeah. It took kindness as weakness.

It takes kindness. And so people get accustomed to you being easygoing and easy to work with, easy, you know, just SES, yes, yes. And they abuse that. And my mentality used to be like, okay, well, I'll take no and then I'll like move forward with that understanding for myself. But then it's like, oh, well, then I see everything around me and how people handle things. I can just advocate for myself and make this better and like hold people accountable. And that's something that I've had to, like, really work on because it's like, it's hard.

Like, hard conversations are really tough to navigate in business for me because I'm like, I feel so unprepared and, like, not well versed. And you don't know what's normal, what's not in the creator space. You're learning as you go. And then, yeah, it's been really tricky. But that is the one thing where I'm like, I need to apply some of the other things from, like, my personal life where I'm like such, I feel like I'm such an open. communicator where I like say how I feel or like what I'm experiencing but in business I'm like okay

like yeah okay whatever put your foot down yeah like I need to like really fight for myself so that's like been the hardest thing for me and if I could go back knowing what I know now I'm like yeah I would definitely push harder for yourself yeah and advocate for yourself we have some Disney questions coming out we're doing a little trivia but before we get into that I wonder about 2018 22 2021 2021 18. We've talked about this podcast over and over. The creator space can be very lucrative. It could be very rewarding. While there's downside, there's also so much privilege. Do you at all worry about the longevity of it? When you talk to friends, when you talk to family, when you think about planning for more kids, when you think about what future might look like, there's so many

jobs that are nine to fives, that are concrete, that are solid salaries that you know in 10 years and still be there. Do you at all worry about that? And then what does that look like for you? for good, bad, ugly, like, how do you approach it in a space where you're very rewarded in this world to have something concrete locked up where it's made to feel good and be there? But also, you take a high risk in our space, but you can also be really rewarded. So how do you handle that? I'll go first because this is actually something that I talk about all the time in therapy because I feel like I'm always finding this internal battle with myself.

So I grew up in a very stable. My dad's been at the same job with 35 years. Maws, but had the same job for 30 years. So for me, financial stability was always there was a paycheck coming in. There was, I didn't have any, my whole family is like teachers and government workers. So, like, I never had an entrepreneur in my family. I never had anybody who was like high risk, high reward, or they even be sales. So for me, when I jumped into this space, I was constantly stressed.

And G can kind of speak to this too, or she would tell you the saying, like, I am constantly stressed about the next paycheck because I don't know when it's going to come. I don't know where it's coming from sometimes. So I am constantly stressed out about it. that so i'm constantly fighting this inner battle of like it's going to be okay like it's going to come it's going to come even if i have i don't care how much money i have saved in the bank yeah i don't know where that next paycheck is coming from i loosely you had like it's been very hard for me so the last so i quit my job i worked at coors eight months after the show aired so i quit basically kind of the

beginning of 2019 ever since then it's been this battle for myself just being like like you're you're in the space now you're an entrepreneur and like i made more money the last you know five years and I would have 20 years of my own job. But yet, it still keeps me up and I still get anxiety because I don't know where it's coming from. So that's been something I'm trying to like. How do you solve it? I haven't solved it, to be honest.

I haven't solved it. I still have anxiety over it. And no matter how good of a year I have or whatever, if I go two weeks without getting a call for a new deal or a new DJ gig, like I'm freaking out. I am complete, you know, I have anxiety. Yeah. So I haven't found a way to solve it to me completely.

Interesting. All right, then let's pivot to you guys. How have you handled that? Especially living in L.A., Cost of living is expensive, so you have to keep up with it. And the thing about the creator space is, again, there's so many benefits, or so many pros, how do you handle that? Do you worry about the long-term thing?

Does mom and dad knock on your door and say, Justin, what are you doing two years from now? With mom and dad, no. So, I mean, my, as you know, my background was in finance. Yeah. And so for a while, like, first coming off the show, like, I kind of hung my hat on, you know, I went back to my 9 to 5 and, like, I'm not going to be, like, these influencers. Like, I'm going to have my stable career and do this on the same. side, right? I was, like, very proud of that. And I came to find out, like, I wasn't necessarily

proud of that, like, just for me because that's what I wanted, but more so, like, my upbringing was also very much, you know, working in health care administration when my mom was a teacher and just my whole entire family, stable careers. Like, nobody in my immediate family went the entrepreneurial route, right? So it wasn't, like, a norm. Neither was going on reality television, right? So that was the first hurdle with my family of, like, I've always, know like we like from a young age i was like you know what like i'm gonna be different and i don't know what this looks like yeah but like my my life isn't going to be just linear sure right and i just had a feeling i didn't know what it was going to be yeah and so taking that leap of faith and

convincing my parents you know they were skeptical about me going around around the television yeah and i was like i trust myself trust me and like it's gonna work out so i did it showed well and you know once they saw the first like physical you know social media check they're like oh wow Because it just wasn't the norm of their generation. So I didn't know this was like as lucrative as it could be, right? But I was doing that and still working in finance. And I'm a strong believer that, you know, when you take that leap, like that proverbial net will appear. And I will always better myself, kind of myself.

And I know I'm not going to let myself fail. And so I would rather live that life of chance for the upside than to play it safe and look back and say, well, I had this time. this point in my life where, like, I could have taken that risk and I didn't. And what if? Right. And so I think it's normal. Well, I do think of the longevity of it, right? Where it's like, okay, how long can I do this? Yeah. And I think that's normal. But I also look at this space. In theory, I'm what, three, four years removed. You guys are even further. And there's people that'd be like, oh, you do it for a little bit. And then you, you know, it's the next crop. But there's something special about each of us where we've been able to maintain it.

Sure. Right. So I think at a certain point, you have to realize that you're hot right off for the show because you're just identified and associated with the franchise. But at a certain point, there's new crops coming out. So it's like you have to bring something else to the table that's unique and valuable where you're creating content where it's like Jason Tartick is Jason Tartick that created the podcast. So all these things that aren't just from the bachelor's. Sure. Right. So it's like if you're able to have that something special and maintain that career in the podcast.

this industry, it's not because you were on some reality television ship once you're a couple years removed. I know that I'm talented in other areas than being a reality television personality, right? But that being said, still using that right brain, left brain creative and also business-mindedness. You know, I'm also working on things to like kind of set myself up where I always say like, if the internet were to shut down tomorrow, I still have something that like I've built. I like it, right? So that's kind of how I deal with it.

Where I'm like, okay, this is great. I'm so fortunate and blessed while I can do this. But if that were to be stripped for me tomorrow, I want to make sure that I am set up for position of success. Sounds like you might have a product or something coming out sometimes. Perhaps. Perhaps. Perhaps. Perhaps. We'll have to have you back on when that potentially launches. Yes, sir.

Yes, sir. Do you, Susie, at all, do you battle with that? The concern of, will this be forever? Will this be here in two years, three years from now? How do you deal with that? I definitely do battle with that. I've always been a bit, like, non-traditional in my career, which I think it's, like, very opposite. I think, like, just even our family dynamics are so different where, like, I think, well, I don't know how different this is, but, like, my dad was, like, a musician and, like, a writer and an entrepreneur, and then became a businessman later in life. Like, he had me when he was 40.

Yeah. And, but he had this, like, dream for the early portion of his life to be, like, just very, he was just, like, such a free spirit. And my mom is, like, similarly was, I mean, she was younger, but, like, they were just very, like, they were not necessarily a straight and narrow path, but then they took a very straight and narrow, and it was always very, probably similar to how you guys grew up. I never saw anything but, like, normal and healthy from what I saw as a kid, you know, of course they were. major struggles, but I didn't see them. They never, like, showed that to me, and I just didn't know. But then I think because my dad was such a creative, like, there was such an encouragement growing up to be like, you can do it every you want.

My parents believed to me so much, and I'm like, I literally was kind of terrible half the time, and they were like, you're amazing. You got this. They were like, you're amazing, like, oh, my gosh, you're going to be a Disney princess. And, like, they were just so supportive, and I just genuinely believe I can do anything. It was that young belief in yourself that it's all going to be fine. And there are times where I have been scared shitless of how I'm going to pay my rent. I have been scared at times in my life of like, what am I doing?

But at the same time, I'm like, I'm a hustler. I know how to make money. I know how to get on Craigslist. When I was 21, I was like working at Warped Tour selling Gatorades. It was sketchy. But I've always known how to make money. Even to this day, absolutely, I feel like this could all end tomorrow. Because, yeah, the internet could shut down or TikTok could go away or whatever.

Like, there's so many things that could happen. But, like, I know I will figure it out because I've always been able to make money from the time I was, like, 14 years old and I've been working. And honestly, anybody, like, if you've ever, like, figured out how to make money when you're in a tough situation, it's like, you can figure it out when you're put, like. When you're backs against the wall. When you're back against the wall. You underestimate yourself. You figure it out. And so I do have that, like, faith in myself that I'm like, even if it all went away, like,

Like, I would kind of figure out something. That would look at a little something to like. I feel like we're both similar to, and probably all of us. Like, I don't want anyone to worry about me, especially my parents, although their careers were very linear. Like, they would support anything that I wanted to do, right? Like, no matter what it is, they, like, they may question it. But at the end of the day, if I say I want to do something, they're going to fully support

me, right? And I, it's crazy. So I, after I was working my finance job, I went on Paradise, and I took six months off of working in nine to five. Kind of missed the nine to five. So I went back to working for a fintech startup. And I was all set to move to L.A. Right? I found my spot in June, went back to Baltimore to close up my house, came back, ended up actually not having that job anymore.

And so I was like, shit, I'm moving to L.A. in three weeks. My rent's going up, three X. Yeah. I'm not telling my parents. Because they're going to freak out. Yeah, of course. And so I said, okay, here we go. And so I was like, you know what?

I'm going to double down and just go hard. Figure it out. Figure it out. Get pretty, right? And, like, knock on what it has been by far, like, the most incredible year for me. And it's just because, like, I know that I'm not going to let myself fail. And your back's against the one you have no choice. Like, you'll be surprised with your case.

I love it. Here's an alternative thought and question to what we're talking about. We're talking a lot about I and us, and we're talking a lot about parents. Parents will obviously want you to pursue your passion, but I'm curious if any of your situations, these relationships or others, have parents ever communicated their concern with not what you're doing, but maybe what your partner might be doing in a creator space? Like, find someone of more stability. Do you find that that's ever been an issue at all? My parents know, but I come from a Latin family, and there are many hands in the pot. So, aunts, uncles, other people that are in.

Yeah, like, so it takes a village, right, to raise a child. So I have a village. So my village wasn't just my parents. And so when it came to doing Love is Blind on Netflix, season 7 just came out now, I only had the support of, like, my mom and dad, but that was it. And then I had to go through that whole experience, like, literally having, like, 10 voices in my ear telling me that I'm doing something wrong and still doing it. And then I was kind of, like, not exiled, but just they weren't proud of me for a while. And then love is blind became love is blind.

And so then I proved everybody wrong. and that was the coolest moment ever yeah but it was it was really hard but i've always kind of like been like the black sheep and so if you ever find yourself in a situation where you're like but like my family is you know in finance and my brother is like literally like the most like straight and narrow scholarship electrical engineer and then there's me and there's just so many like veered left with everything and everybody in my family veered right and now I'm thriving wow there's an unbelievable story you continue to pursue even when maybe the people behind you didn't have your back but you're like I got this I think that's beautiful all right we're going to go into a

Disney game before we do everyone take your phones out get your notepad app out this is a Jim carry game right here put your notepad out everyone got it open Jim carry what he was going to L.A. He had a blank check and he wrote a check to himself for a certain amount. I can say that amount because I don't want it to influence you. But he wrote the amount and then he said, I'm going to manifest it and he put it on his fridge and he said, in L.A.

as an actor, I'm going to make this amount of money. He made that amount of money. So I want you guys to put your number. You have a blank check-in as a creator, reality TV star, an actor, a artist, whatever it is that you might do in the future on top of what you already do. What is that number? You have a

blank check. Where is it going on your fridge? You're going to start with you, G. What's your number? $10 million. And why $10 million? I have the number. Don't change your numbers. I've had the number in my head $10 million for a really, really long time. And then I recently got something, and they said, I wouldn't have to do X until we made $10 million.

And that was a pretty cool way. There you go. All right. There's something to do this. What's your number? 10 million. Let me see. Okay.

Why is yours as $10 million? I don't know. It's always been the number for me, too. I think if you would ask, again, if you would ask me this question years ago, I'd have been not would have been 10 million. I would have been like a million. But I think now it's like, I see there's so much money out there to be made. What was yours? Okay, mine has been this number for about two years. I have a sticking out. I have a vision board, and it has like, so shout out to Mia Sanchez, because when I was working in Tokyo Disneyland, she, I think was Miss USA the year before. She was on my vision board as Miss USA, and I was like, I want to go to Miss USA as Miss Virginia. I did that.

I accomplished that, like, three or four years later. And now I have Nia Sanchez on my vision board, but for a different reason as, at that time, it was because I wanted to, like, be able to photograph as well as this photographer named Fidel. And so it was a photo by Fadil of Nia Sanchez. So, like, she's been on my vision board forever. And this number of $750,000 has been something that I'm like, I want to make that much money, like, as a creator, as a photographer, as whatever. And it's just been a number that I've been, like, some one year.

That's what I'm that's what I'm gonna do. Let's go, I love it. And so like two years ago, I made that number and I have it on there as like a goal for myself. Let's go, I love that. I like Justin. Bring us home. I may sound say.

What do you got? What is this? Billion? What did you put? $31 million. Yeah. Wow. That's here. Why?

I just, I write a lot of numbers. I'm also very superstitious. My favorite number is 13. One of my sports numbers was 31, but also like playing around with valuations with a company that I'm starting and just having conversations like I've just had it in my head that not that I'm entering this industry or this business to sell out because I'm actually passionate about this like I'm not entering something to just sell right like but eventually it's what you do and so I've

just had this number where I'm like X number a year that's why I asked like what time frame yeah but at a certain point like I'm just confident that this will be a success and And eventually my valuation will be 25, 30 million plus. And that's the number that I love it. I'll sell it. I love it. How about you, Jason? You have to share your number.

Wait, what's my? Well, I didn't do the exercise. But if I, like, had to do it, it would be right around the $10 million mark. But here's why. And here's the cool thing about the question. Jim Carrey, when he does it, he says 10 million. He said 10 million 20 years ago. So the first time I ever heard it, here's the kind of,

the psyche of it. I did 10 million, but the reason I did 10 million was because I knew I've figured out the numbers that I can live the same lifestyle I live right now if I have around 7 to 10 million in liquid assets. So I know if I get to that number, I can kind of like retire at this lifestyle. But what was really fascinating about that is you, when you hear a number, you actually start to create your mindset towards that number. So I instantly thought 10 million. And there's a whole like business case study of when you put the number out first, which I didn't put out, you'll try and emulate that and then justify your reasoning. And really all the, whatever number it should be your own brain and how you're going to get there annually or at the end of your career

because your behaviors will change. We try to adjust it. And it's fascinating when you're around a group of people. Like if you said 100 million and you said a billion and I said 100,000, and you think about all the different things you'd have to do to try and get all of these. and the behaviors day-to-day would change drastically. So the idea is like continue to think bigger, continue to push it because then the behaviors that you'll do day-to-day will have to be pushed to that extremity.

So that being said, let's get into a couple of Disney facts and then we will wrap. This has been a fun podcast, training secrets, a very different one, a round table, all different A to Z. Here we go. Get your notepads out. What is the highest grossing Disney movie ever? Five.

Five, four, three, two, one. Highest, gross Disney movie ever. Justin, go. Toy Story. Toy Story. I said Frozen. Frozen. Toy Story.

Lion King. Oh, that makes sense. Wow. Two and eight billion. I was thinking quick. Here we go. How many Disney movies have ever been made here in Disneyland at J.W. area? Come check out Anaheim.

This place is unbelievable. Let's start with. with you, Gianni and Ida Gbelli? 44. 44. 150. 457. 52.

The answer is 129 with 8thorn production. Blake gets that point. Here we go. What year was Disneyland built? What year was Disneyland built? Let's say, 1930. 1968?

1933. 1929. 1995. That's a big one there for Seuss. All right, here we go. This is a fun one. This is a fun one. How long did it take to build Disneyland?

Starting what do you, Susie. How long did it take to build the Disney? Three years? Six years. No, like 12. Five. 365 days. In an annual basis here in Antahar, Disneyland,

how many days is Disneyland open, starting with you, Justin, in a year? 365 days in a year. How many days is Disneyland open in Anaheim? 365. five. Three five. Every day. 35. 35. 35. 365. 365. 363. Answer, 365. Every single day.

Let's go. One last one. Here we go. What is the highest grossing Disney animated movie ever? We're going to start with you, Justin. Toy Story. How much? Oh, I'm going to say... All time? What is the highest grossing Disney Toy Story at Five Bill? I actually think it's Toy Story, too. I was... two billion i'm gonna say frozen and two billion do you need it totally sorry answer inside out

two one point five billion okay come on now we're talking here we all right but we are here and i disney visit an i if you guys haven't bet it is an unbelievable experience j w marriott there is only one question left at this podcast Evan what's the question what should one question we should wrap with? Trading secret. Justin and Susie, are you guys dating? That's so crazy. You know what we are doing? Protecting our peace.

Yay. To protecting your peace. In a world, it's so hard to do. That's a great answer. That was beautiful. All right, let's end with the trading secret. Gianina, do you just fart? No, that was the chair. Dude, it's highly who lifted a cheek and, like, no way.

No, but Justin did. Did you just let one with that? He's been ripping them all night. I'm a joke. I'm joking. There's the Instagram reel right there. There's the Instagram reel. There's the TIS.

That's you make the sizzle. It's like so much for protecting our piece. Does he do silence or PPP sevens or did you do the bops? All of the above. All of the above. How was that brought together, seal, and they're same. There you go. We blowing up.

All right, Genie So you are a couple. We used to blow it up. Good save, good save, good save. Genealette, what do you got? One trading secret. It could be Disney related, it could be anhyme-related, can just be life-related.

What do you got? No, it could be anything. Max out your 401K and start a trust fund for your kids. Oh, all right. Trusting for the kids. 529. Custodial Roth IRA. We'll talk about those in the recap.

So I'm going to see this from Susie from earlier. Advocate for yourself, you're worth more than you think. You're worth more than they think. I'll throw one in there. The second you are involved with business people or personal or family or friends that take your value and believe your value is lower than it is, make sure you challenge it. Because you should forever hold your ground on what value you bring to the table.

Suvie, what do you got for us? I love that. I'm going to double down. advocate for yourself, know your worth. And even if you don't fully know it, just put yourself out there and believe in yourself. Before I go to Justin, I'm going to go back to you. You obviously had to learn how to do this. You had to step in these conversations. So you had to negotiate for yourself. What's one negotiating thing that's worked out for you or that you would tell people to think about? Like leaning on what you're feeling. I know that sounds like. Yeah, like your gut. But also

when you actually communicate with somebody, I recently had something in business. come up and I didn't want to address it because I felt like I was kind of like done dirty and I didn't want to address it. Honestly, just like put yourself out there, say how it makes you feel and it doesn't even have to be about business, but this is affecting how I'm feeling and all this. Like I need you to know how this action makes me feel. And so yeah, you don't even have to like throw out numbers or throw out like business all the time. Like sometimes you can just be like, hey, I'm a human and this makes me feel something. So like if you don't feel comfortable, talking business always you can just like express yourself and that I like that you don't have to say

you can say like when you say this it's making me feel this or what I'm only getting this raised I'm even talking about what I deserve but like this is what it makes me feel I'm not appreciating when I see your other clothes making that much money why are you giving me that bullshit yeah or or that you're fired a good Chris boss trick he says when you go to negotiations if your boss had told you something, if you're due X, Y, and Z, you'll get this. He says, don't even bring up the number. Just say, if you are my boss, you're the leader I look up to, how do you expect me to feel if I have done those things and you are coming through with your promise?

Like, imagine how that would make your boss feel or the owner that comes here, right? Like, do people the power to, like, show up as a person you need them to be? 100%. Justin, bring us home. Okay. So, does anyone know the, the, uh, history behind the cheers. So the history behind the cheers is that in medieval times, when they cheers,

liquid was supposed to splash into each other's chalice, so that if one party was poisoning the other, they both died. That's your secret. Genea and a Jebeli. Where can people find you? Instagram, TikTok, YouTube. Darling, is there with BTS of this at Genea and Jebeli. Where can we find out?

Played course, and we're going to ever find out. TikTok, Twitter at Balakabakab, B-A-L-O-C-A-Y-E-D-H. And I'm on Spotify at Lake Horses. I love that you said, I love it. This is supportive queen over there. Okay, Susie C. Evans on Instagram, Susie was like on TikTok. I just started a new podcast. Live, Laugh, Lies.

Go check it out. It's fun. It's juicy. It is, Jude. Those clips are unbelievable. Congratulations on that podcast. Bring us home. We can find him on at Justin Gleaze, and we're going to wrap this bad boy.

with a little trading seekers prediction since we're all going to dancing with the stars in 48 hours. And so we are going to go around here and we are going to predict and guess who is going to be holding the trophy at the end of the season on Dancing with the Stars.

Last wrap. J.W. Marriott, Dancing with the Stars predictions here in Anaheim. Who's winning? The Olympic check. Elona. Alona. Alona.

I just want to waste many time. Sorry, no shade. But you can't win it again. Sorry, Joey. I'm telling Joey. No, God, that's a good question. I think Joe is going to get top four. Yeah.

I hope he gets tough, too. Yeah. I hope he wins it, but he's not. He's a fan. He's way better than I thought. I'll give him that. Always good to be on training secret. It's always good to have you guys.

What's your training secret? My training secret? Expect the unexpected. It's all I got. Okay. I'm telling you, never a million years. I think at 35 years old, I'd be going to Disneyland. Here I am.

It was an unbelievable day. It was a unbelievable time. we all had a good time. First time. Yeah, first time. Thank you for tuning into another episode of training secrets. Yay. And I couldn't afford to miss.