Trading Secrets - 207. Johnny McIntyre & Amy Cortes: Love is Blind success love story break down the first year of marriage, venturing into the content creator space, and talking all things $$$

Episode Date: November 4, 2024

This week, Jason is joined by Love is Blind’s newest successful love story and fan favorites, Johnny McIntyre and Amy Cortes! Johnny and Amy walked away from season six of Netflix’s hit reality dating show as the only couple happily married now. After just surpassing their one year wedding anniversary on the show, Johnny and Amy are continuing to grow into their lives together as a married couple. During their time on the show, Amy and Johnny did not hold back on the tough conversations around physical intimacy and financial stability.  Johnny and Amy give insight to what the first year of marriage has been coming off Love is Blind, how they handled taking time off of work to go on the show, Johnny’s career in IT tech sales, Amy working the retail ecommerce space, what life is like in the pods, going deep into their values and finances in the experiment, when prenups came up in the relationship, what their professional worlds look like now, and adapting to the influencer space. Amy and Johnny also breakdown how they are working through the insurance while working in content creation, creating a space to have deeper life conversations, having a joint business account, and some rapidfire questions.  Amy and Johnny reveal all that and so much more in another episode you can’t afford to miss!                                                     Host: Jason Tartick Co-Host: David Arduin Audio: John Gurney Guests: Johnny McIntyre + Amy Cortez Stay connected with the Trading Secrets Podcast!  Instagram: @tradingsecretspodcast  Youtube: Trading Secrets Facebook: Join the Group All Access: Free 30-Day Trial  Trading Secrets Steals & Deals! Shopify: If you're into growing your business, your commerce platform better be ready to sell wherever your customers are scrolling or strolling—on the web, in your store, in their feed, and everywhere in between. Businesses that sell more, sell on Shopify. Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial period at SHOPIFY.COM/secrets  Fabric By Gerber Life: Fabric by Gerber Life was designed by parents, for parents, to make it easy to plan for and manage your family's financial path. Join the thousands of parents who trust Fabric to help protect their family. Start investing in your child today at meetfabric.com/TRADINGSECRETS  Vimergy: Vimergy makes liquids vitamin and supplements that use clean ingredients, and are not loaded with unnecessary fillers and binders, like citric acid and they absorb faster than tablets, gummies and capsules. Vimergy is offering free shipping using code TRADINGSECRETS. Plus, you can save up to 12% with their mix and save program. Jack Black: Jack Black just came out with 4 new scents of their #1 Deodorant, Pit Boss. Their deodorant is the best at controlling odor and wetness, no matter what. If you want simple, effective products that do what they say they’re going to do, you need Jack Black. Head to GetJackBlack.com/TRADINGSECRETS and use code TRADINGSECRETS for 10% off your order & FREE shipping.

blind and now you live together and you have to deal with career changes and finance changes, all the moving parts like the mayhem that a situation like that can present. And these two are here to talk about it. Now, a quick update from the market. First and foremost, I hope everyone has voted. If you haven't, get your ass out there and get it done once this episode releases. There's very finite time. And by next week, we will know who the future president of United States is. And with that, there's going to be changes. So I would tell you this. The next three to six months in the market, real estate market, stock market, all the things, let's just use one word and say, interesting.

And anyone out there that says it's perfectly predictable is incorrect. Another thing you should know about just when we're going into the holiday season, shopping. I read a stat today that 73% of consumers said they are slow shopping this year. It is a trend that is moving towards more mindful buying decisions as we're going into peak holiday season. People are planning in advance. They're using alternative areas and places to save money. They are buying proactively as opposed to reactively. And pay attention to my Instagram because I have a hack coming out that can show you how to save a bunch of money when you are shopping this holiday season.

When you get to the recap, stay tuned. Because we are talking about some big health insurance things that have impacted my life. I think it's really important for everyone to hear. Whether you have an older parent or grandparent or you're like me. and you're in your 30s, there's some shit that happened to me, and you're going to hear that in the recap. That also connects to something everyone should know about. It's the pre-neuvo scan. It's P-R-E-N-U-V-O. Go to their website, and you can see where in the United States you can get a pre-nevial scan. It was the craziest thing I did it. Now, it retails. We talk money here, of course,

right? So you should know, it retails at $2,500. But you go into an MRI machine, and from your head to your toe, they scan for everything. They scan your nervous system, your respiratory system, your circulatory system, your endocrine system, your urinary system, your reproductive system, your digestive system, and your musculoskeletal system. And then each of them, it'll tell you the findings it found. For example, I'm on the app and I'm in the nervous system and I can look at my brain. There were no adverse findings in my brain. And there are about 30 different things in my brain that they scan for. When I click on those, I can actually see the scan. Now, if I go into my spine, I can see three minor findings.

And in the minor findings, it'll show me exactly where in my spine there's a minor finding, what I should think about, what the level of it is, all the things. In this scan, I found out some interesting things. I found out that in my respiratory system, I have a lung nodule at 0.5 centimeters. So I have to keep an eye on that. Make sure it doesn't grow. It should be benign. But if it does grow, we have some issues.

If it doesn't, it was just from a lung infection. I found out from the scan that I'm by both of my kidneys, I have cysts, and I know exactly the size of those cysts, and they are both benign, which is good. I know that my knee has some inflation. I know that in my urinary system that when it comes to everything regarding my bladder and my liver and prostate, everything looks good, I tell you all this because I am blown away from the information from my brain to literally my ankles, the pernuvo scan has at all, and you would expect something like this to be an exorbitant amount that is unaffordable or unattainable. And while I understand $2,500 is a lot, to think about the fact that you can prevent

the spread of something that could be much bigger is unbelievable. So I know this is a gift that will be giving both of my parents for the holiday season. You guys should check it out, and I will make sure to put the Pernuva link in our show notes. A little update for my personal life. I was back in Rochester last week with David. I went to a wellness retreat. This week. It was unbelievable. Mirival. And it's in upstate New York and they blend Arizona. And it's very focused on classes. So we did like breath work and therapy and a lot of internal work. It was such an unbelievable reset. It was everything I needed and more. Some of the biggest takeaways from the breathing is you should always be breathing to your nose. And I always

thought breathwork, I kind of just discredit. I'm like, good breathwork. The breathwork we did there changed my life. There was one type of breathwork pretty intensely. Did it for 10 minutes to music. And all of a sudden, my face started tingly, my hands were getting tinglingly. And I just started crying. It was crazy from breathwork. So anyway, check it out. I would highly recommend that you could see all the classes you could take there. It was life changing. It was life changing. And then I got an invite to Heidi Klum's Halloween party. And typically with these things, I'm going to be honest with you, I was thinking about Kelsey Anderson's trading secret. we had her on where she was like, go to things by yourself.

I always liked to go with someone, but they only gave me an invite for one, and I went by myself. And I had the best time. I had so much fun there. It was great. Stayed a few hours and went back home, and I stayed with Evan over in Stanford. But it was just the costumes. Oh, my God. It was, I don't know.

I just can't put into words. The costumes I saw there were the best costumes I will ever, ever see in my life. I could tell you stories for the whole podcast. looking at the time. You know what? I'll save those stories for another time. If you want to give us five stars in the reviews, give us five stars. If you want more Heidi Kloom stories from her Halloween party, just let us know, maybe we'll do a full episode on it because there was a lot of action there. And then this week, I'm really excited. I got asked for a very large company that is publicly traded to speak to their executive group at TikTok headquarters in New York this week. So that is on my

radar. It's been, again, personally, again, if you do a whole episode, but just really trying to dig in and do a lot of work on myself and just, it's just a lot. It's just a lot. It's just a lot. But we're getting there. Day by day, we're getting there. And yeah, I got to figure out what's next. I don't know what next is. It's a big question mark for me. There's nothing any more tying me to National Tennessee, so I really got to figure out what I'm going to do and what the future looks like. I don't know. I don't know. As I put it together, I will let you guys know. Let's ring in the bell with Amy and Johnny. Welcome back to another episode of Trading Secrets. Today, we are joined by Love is Blind's newest successful love story and fan

favorites Johnny McIntyre and Amy Cortez. Johnny and Amy walked away from season six of Netflix hit reality dating show as the only couple happily married. Now, after just surpassing their one-year wedding anniversary on the show, Johnny and Amy are continuing to grow into their lives together as a married couple. During their time on the show, Johnny and Amy did not hold back on the tough conversations around physical intimacy and financial stability to very important topics for any new couple, especially with trading secrets. So how have things progressed over their first year together?

What have they done to better themselves as a couple? What struggles have they run into? What are their goals, both personally and professionally moving forward? We are going to touch on it all. Johnny and Amy, thank you so much for being on trading secrets. Thanks for having us. Thank you, Jason. Yeah.

And happy one year. How does the last year, how has it been? It's been wild. It's been kind of like a whirlwind of different things coming because there's been so much different change going on, but it's all like very positive. But we're really planning for something like this? and then how do we really make sure that we're capitalizing on it and making sure that we're going to be basically the best versions of ourselves

while doing it too. Yeah. Let's go chronologically back to once upon a time. Love is Blind finds you. Both you guys are extremely educated. You're doing well in your careers. And then Love is Blind comes your way. How did they find it?

So for me, it was kind of odd. They found me via LinkedIn. LinkedIn? Wow. Very random. That's insane. I feel like it's impossible to know if you even are in a relationship. when you're on LinkedIn, but they messaged me. I thought it was like a recruiter. So I messaged back

and I was like, you know what? Why not? I'm free in the next 20 minutes and hop on a quick call. And I'm like, oh, I thought this was like kind of a scam or like maybe not real, but like it was very real and I didn't really know kind of what to expect from it. In my previous day and life before this, like it was working out good, but I was having trouble just kind of getting a little bit deeper. So that's why I thought Love is Blind was really going to help me show was just getting deeper with like those relationships. Because professionally your IT tech sales, right? So you're working full time. You tell your employer you're going to go on a dating show. Was there any risk of losing your job then? Did you lose your job? Did you come back to it? What it looked

like? Initially, it was very positive because I had limited PTO. They said you can take off roughly the three weeks that you're going to be completely, you know, no phone, no connection to the outside world. And you can come back and have your job right back afterwards. Then as we shifted more towards filming, they basically said, hey, you know, you should probably quit like the company and then reapply for a job after it's all done. So it was basically kind of like a little game internally of do I really want to take this opportunity? Do I want to move forward with this? And if I do, what's kind of the next step for me professionally?

Because it's not going to be aired for the year. So how am I going to basically pay my bills? And it was very just like, I don't know, kind of like an internal battle. I was like facing myself. So I went back to my HR department. We were able to get a unpaid leave of absence while I was going to be on the show, which worked out perfectly. We'll get into the current state later. But right now you film and then after the show, you go back to work.

Exactly. Because the other thing, too, is you guys don't actually know if your season will be picked up, right? Or how long, right? Once you finish filming, it might be three years. It might be picked up. They might not even showcase you even though you got married. So there's obviously a lot of risk as you're planning your career. So you take a leave of absence. You go back to your career. Before I go to you, Amy, we talk financial transparency here just for educational purposes. Anybody that's looking at IT tech sales, how is the structure work of compensation? For IT, basically, basically like kind of SaaS sales is going to be, you got a base salary, and then normally you're on target earnings is going to be roughly double that. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Let me take a shot at base salary. Base salary is going to be somewhere in the 75 to 90 range? Probably, yeah. Okay. Depending on like your market, if you're going to be the small to midsize, that mid-sized market, or like enterprise sales. And that depends into what company size you're selling into. And you can do up to two times a base on compensation and commission. Yes. But then you have people who are earning a lot more than that because they just exceed their commission

plans. Okay. Some people my company were making probably three, four times the amount, too. So you know some people in your company and IT sales are making like seven figures. Exactly. Wow. And that's normally in other companies, too, that's going to be more focused towards like cybersecurity or like cloud-based solutions.

Good to know. That's very educational. IT tech sales. If you're interested in making a transition, sounds like you can make a couple bucks there. Amy, we're going to you. Master's degree, University of South Carolina, focus in international. business. You got that bachelor's degree at University of North Carolina at Charlotte in your e-commerce retail specialist for the past three years. You tell them you're going on.

Love is blind. What happens with the job? So that's actually a funny story because I had applied to be a part of the show six months before filming. So before filming, I had applied in September of 2022. So my friends told me about the opportunity and I applied myself. Instead of being scouted, I actually applied for it. However, it took so long. long and you don't know like what life is going to look like. So I had planned trips and stuff. And so I was supposed to be gone for the duration of filming. So I wasn't going to do the show. A trip got canceled. And that was kind of what opened the gateways to me even partaking on the show. And what I did immediately was call my manager. And I was like, hey, sobbing. Like, expect me at work next week

because I'm not going to France anymore. And like, this is all happening. And then I'm also being told at the same time that I got chosen for the show. But I had told me, them no because I was going to go on the trip and I was going to go to the day. And like, I was just like rambling. And she was like, okay, okay, Amy, like let's take a step back. And this was literally probably like a week and a half to two weeks right before filming. My company did have a limited PTO and that was my favorite aspect of the job. But, you know, especially if it's three weeks, you have to make sure that you have that coverage. She was like, okay, let's take a step back. Let's see what we can do so that you can take on this opportunity. I'm going to talk

to HR and I was like super nervous. What am I putting myself into? Of course. So crazy. But no, like HR was able to make it happen for me. And they were so supportive. My job was absolutely supportive. So you're working. Your company's supportive.

And similar to Johnny, you finish. You're married. And you go right back to work. Yeah. Just waiting to see what happens and when it gets aired. So you go through this crazy experience. You're married. You're going back to work.

How long after you get married from filming? Do you find out that the show will air this spring? Well, I think first things first, too, is that, So basically the three weeks we had during filming was really going to be like no phone, no outside connection. Of course. As soon as we were done those three weeks, though, we were still filming, but Amy right away had to go back to her job.

So her schedule was basically 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. of working the corporate job, then 5 p.m. to like close to like 11 or 12 o'clock at midnight filming for the show. And that was basically three days out of like the week and then all weekends too. And the thing is, is I actually like while filming, I had gotten promoted. And I didn't know. So I come back with a new fiancé, living in a new place, with a new role and more responsibilities, which was a huge honor. But it was something that I wasn't expecting.

So it was a lot to kind of acclimate to that. And I think we found out maybe like a couple months before, maybe like November, December. So maybe like two to three months before that the show was coming out in February. Okay. Talk to me about this. I know you filmed for three weeks, but eight days you get married. You two have been very open about a person.

professional and financial aspects of your relationship. The biggest question I have is, after eight days, do you have enough time to even talk about your finances? Are you considering a pre-nup? Are you even given the chance to have those discussions? Or do you just have to possibly, if you want to do a post-nup, because it all happens so fast, no one can, no one probably in the world other than this show,

can relate to that speed, but they can relate to trying to have, tough conversations that are sometimes pressed in the cans being kicked. So I'm curious, what was your experience there? It is scary because it's very fast. Luckily in the pods, though, it's kind of staggered. So day one, you're actually dating all the women for, I think it was about maybe like 15 minutes each. Then that's 15 of them. Then the next day you're only seeing eight of them. And it goes to maybe like half hour long dates. So the next day, it's only maybe six of them. And it's an hour long date each. So each day you're getting more and more time with

them. So towards like the last couple days, well, we actually decided that we were going to be, you know, just exclusive on day five. And this is we were probably at maybe like three hour long dates at this point. Yeah. So for day five, day six, day seven, we were having those like really deep conversations about, okay, well, let's talk about finances. Let's talk about, you know, really kind of crazy hypotheticals. What happens if, you know, something happens with your dad and we have to basically be the caretakers for her family? How are we going to balance that? And just like different things, too, entirely. Yeah. I feel like we were getting super deep.

And obviously, there's just not enough time. But I feel like judging the character and asking the right questions to judge the character will help you assess, like, how everything else is going to kind of play out. Obviously, we talked about finances and we talked about kids and, like, hypotheticals and stuff like that. But I feel like coming into this experiment, if, like, we're both ready, because we're ready for that next phase in our life. But to, like, really test that is all about.

asking the right questions and getting to know that person in depth. For example, I had asked him, what have you done to better yourself as a man? Like, do you read self-help books? Because I felt like I was doing my work to get to where I am and becoming the woman that I am. And I wanted my partner to match me. So I wanted to see how he answered that. Then he surprised me very much and like how he went about those answers. He talked about how he meditated, how he journaled, how he did read self-help books. He listed, you know, somehow. And it was just like I could relate to him so much at that level. And I feel like that taught me that, okay, he's open-minded. He wants to work on himself. Yeah. He's dedicated. Like it told me like certain qualities that would kind of play out into

harder conversations. So when, you know, finances come to play, I feel like we might not meet in the same place in the beginning, but we could potentially meet in the middle because there's that open-mindedness. It's such a hard place to step into. And you don't even see each other too. And you're talking about these in-depth conversations. So it's like we're really trying to figure out like, what the foundation is going to be like for the rest of our lives in this relationship. And that's, I think, what was really the biggest thing in those, like, eight days in the pods. What is, is it going to be enough, like this foundation of, you know, talking, communicating, being open to really, you know, hearing what she's saying and trying to find a good middle ground

to meet for compromise in certain situations. Can we do that in these eight days? And if so, okay, when we actually see each other in person and we actually start living together and start working together, how is it all going to really just transpire? Correct. Exactly. Well, I've talked to a lot of couples that have come off the show. I still have never heard one that got a premium. Did you even, did the conversation even come up regarding preenum? I think it came up later on because we didn't really know exactly what to do around like that whole situation. And my sister and brother-in-law are both corporate lawyers. And they're just saying that, hey, you guys should really probably think about this. Because it's not just basically me versus Amy or Amy versus Johnny. It's basically how are we going to really just kind of figure things out when it comes to the state versus us. Yeah, that's exactly. I'm pro pre-nump because, one, it's a force you to step in the conversation. And two, you're exactly right, right?

It's the state laws. Once you get married, y'all have a pre-nup. It's just the state laws. Do you want to customize it? But I just have to imagine there's, how could you have that conversation in that time period? It's like it feels like it's almost impossible to go to that one. But that's, I mean, the whole thing's fascinating. The show obviously crushed it this season. There was 907 million minutes of viewing time in the U.S. 78% came from that demo that every show is trying to capture, which is 18 to 49, and obviously that's had a big impact on both of your lives. You know, one of the things that I wanted to ask you guys about is now today, when you think about professional lives, like we talked about where

you guys were, the show blows up, you get social media following, you're married, you're happily married. Where do you go from here in this crazy world? What has the professional world and navigation looked like from the day the season finished airing to now? So it's really weird because and Amy, I guess do you want to go first with kind of like the way you decided to do like corporate life afterwards? Yeah. So essentially right when everything was about to come out, I was fighting for my life. Literally, I was going through all these physical challenges. I had like the worst chest pain. And then I was like going through other things. It was awful. And I think it was really the stress that I was dealing with. After the show when I was on just because

you're not, I don't know if you felt this. You're just not used to that attention. No, not at all. It's so much. And I actually just talked to Joey from the bachelor about this too. There's so many physical things in your body that change from it. I dealt with a lot of those things. Yeah. But that was before the show. I was like, before the air. Yeah. Before it air. Because of my job. And like I loved my job. But it wasn't, I don't even want to put it on my job fully. It was just that there were so many new things happening in my life changing all at once. I went from super single to very much married and then a promotion at the same time. And it's just like so many changes in my life. And I, you know, I would say that I have awful anxiety. I feel like I've gotten better from it.

I feel like that's one thing I've, you know, learned since the show came out is how to kind of better myself in that area. But anyways, I feel like I struggled. I was struggling a lot at the end of last year beginning of this year. And then with the show coming out, I was like, oh my God, what am I going to do? Like how? I feel like I'm going to just combust right now. I need to take a breather. And at the same time, I'm such a workaholic. But Johnny was like, you should really take a step back. Like I got us while the show comes out and then maybe like you can go back into that space. And I'm just like, honestly, why not? I thought long and hard about it because I was very back. and forth. I was very passionate about what I did, but at the same time, I knew that it could have

affected me while balancing everything else. So I made the decision to leave. I would have done a leave of absence, but unfortunately they didn't offer that at that moment, but they were very open to me reapplying if that, you know, ever came to be. So I left my corporate role. And so I've kind of been stepping into the influencing life since. Yeah. It's fun. Yeah, that's really good. Can you kind of an act for that, too? Before we go into that, Johnny, talk to me, Amy, about what does it look like now? Is it where you expected it to be?

Do you see the future and continuing to put all your energy towards it? If we fast forward to that decision, which was when, like March-ish, March, February, we're now in June. Talk to me a little bit about, like, where it stands, stay, and what the vision is. Yeah, so transparently, I didn't expect the show to L' Boom as it did. I didn't think that there would be the opportunities that have come from it. I was just kind of like, I'll leave and then I'll go back. But if there are opportunities that come, then I'll tap into it and see what there is in that space.

I'd like to say I'm a very creative person. I did study marketing and all that. So I do love the side of influencing and really tapping into that. At the same time, this is still kind of a new space. Like I don't want to be like, I'm going to be doing this forever. Like, it would be cool, but I also want to be realistic, especially when there are, you know, in the future, when there are new responsibilities that come in, it's just like, I don't know how that will look like. I'm just kind of more focused in the present, but at the same time, I know that I have a great education under my belt. I have a great work experience. So that if I end up doing corporate life again, I can definitely tap into that or maybe even try both. So it's just kind of like a question mark where right now enjoying the ride. You got that insurance plan. Are you, talk to me about this, though. Are you on like the trajectory or have you earned more in this space than you could

in your previous space? Yes. So I definitely have earned more in this space than I have in the previous space. And at the same time, there's more flexibility. I mean, I love to travel. That's one of the main reasons why I studied what I did. And so now getting to do it with the person that I love and having the flexibility to tend to my family.

I mean, I have, other than my parents, my grandma and her two sisters that are, you know, elderly live with my parents and, you know, being able to support my family and being there for them is so huge to me. So there's a lot of flexibility and like more income that comes from it. So exactly. John, I'm coming in a second. One thing I want to ask you, though, is I don't want to make this assumption, but just looking at your resume and your masters and just your whole track. It's very traditional, just like mine was, right? As a result of that, I find that sometimes when you take a shot like you're taking, there's probably a lot of outside noise from very afar and possibly in your inner circle.

I'm only saying that because I dealt with it. Have you dealt with that at all in your inner circle, outside noise, saying, what the hell are you doing? You got your master's, two great schools. Why are you doing this? Like, have you dealt with that? And if so, how have you overcome it? I feel like, I feel like more so from my grandma, for example. She's very involved.

But she's more traditional. I feel like my dad, now that he sees where I am, how happy I am, the fact that Johnny and I have such a great relationship, which is like the most important thing of all, and that, you know, we're doing well right now. He's so supportive of it. He was all about, you know, getting the education and following that traditional path. But I think he sees my happiness and he weighs that more. And I feel like my grandma just doesn't understand what influencing is or what that looks like. So she's just like, I don't understand. But I think she's also following that same path as my dad where it's like she sees that I'm happy and that's all that matters. But other than that, like everybody around me, like my close friends and the rest of my family have been super supportive in terms of, you know, following what I feel like is best for me intuitively. But I feel like if anybody holds me back, it's myself because I have told Johnny time and time again, like, what if I can do both? Like there's a tie because I feel like I did study so much to to kind of go back to that corporate lifestyle.

Like, it's kind of like, you know, I don't want to say it's a toxic relationship because my job wasn't bad, but it's just kind of like, you see like what better things you could do and you still kind of have that tie pulling you back. So I feel like that's what I kind of struggle with, but I don't know. I just want to do it all. The only take on that would be if you do both, which of course you could do both. You do whatever you want to do. I think individually each of those paths will suffer a little bit, right?

So as opposed to being able to get 100% to 1 in accelerating, you'll be giving, I mean, just you'll have to give 75% and 75% of what Amy could do. And so maybe that's an answer though. Maybe that works best for you. You've got to figure that out. Last question I got for in them coming to, Johnny, is in the small startup space they call burn rate, right? Like how much cash do you have until your company goes out of business?

Like how many months can you support the operations when you think about your path in this space? do you have an idea just about going back? Is it like, okay, I'm going to go back to corporate in two months, three months, six months, 12 months? Like, what is that burn rate look for you? Yeah, we actually have had that conversation. I feel like as of right now, we'll probably be good for the rest of the year.

I feel like it's something that we'll consistently like reevaluate just to make sure that we're staying on top of and like having that communication. But I think right now we're just going to continue enjoying our marriage. We got married in such a fast-paced process. And so we just kind of want to do. anything and everything and really enjoy it. And so I feel like that does give us that flexibility in doing so. But I feel like it's something that we might reconsider next year and see where we're standing if we need to consider that as an option. And if we can keep doing

what we're doing now. Okay. There's what the future path looks like. At least the end of this year. All right, Johnny, you're in IT sales. You talk about the money of it. You get married. You go on the show. Today, we fast forward. The show is aired. You've had some success, some great success on social media. what does it look like today? What is the professional career outlook look like today? Are you still in IT sales? So, no. So actually, Amy left when the show was about to air.

I decided I wanted to try to really kind of make it work and see if I can do that, you know, still work in my normal job, and still trying to be an influencer and really create content. Honestly, that's just like what you said, giving 75-75. It was very much that my attention wasn't on one full thing. I was always thinking about work when I was trying to create content. and then my focus was always on creating content when I was at work,

and it just wasn't really working out too well. So I had a conversation with my bosses, with my managers, like everybody else, and we had a decision that, you know what, probably should take, like, a step back from this. So I end up closing up the rest of my, like, larger deals I had for, like, that quarter, and they stepped away pretty recently. So it was about probably three weeks in total. Oh, my gosh. Yeah.

Wow. So this is like, this is recent news here. Exactly. Yeah. So, like, in my situation, I was kind of very similar. Like when the corporate world and the social media world come together, It can create, especially like when you're selling it to your level, C-level executive and stuff, it could create a lot of touch points, let's say.

And so this was for me, it was back in 2019. So it was even before there was more understanding of this space. And they pretty much, they're just like, ultimate. Like, you're done with that, and you're here, or you're here, and you're done with that. Was it somewhat similar to that scenario? It was pretty similar. Pretty similar. It got to the point where, so my role was basically more of like a hybrid role.

So I was in the office, right, two days, working from home three days. and I feel like I could have kind of managed everything but then travel came into a play kind of like what I was mentioning before we started filming this we had a lot of different trips planned from going to Puerto Rico to go into Melbourne Brothers graduation to going to L.A. to film certain things

and I got to the point when they said hey, you can do this but you can't do this even though it was I was seeing my number I was doing well in my job they wanted me to be more so kind of in the office opposed to doing my job outside of it. Let me ask you this. Do you think

it was control because they were focused on performance, or do you think there was a little bit of control because of envy of what you were doing? I really can't say for sure. Yeah, I know I can say it was certainly. It was a hundred percent envy. It was like the more the opportunities came, they didn't put any expectations on the other people, the way they were putting them on me. And I know it was it had to do with a little bit of like, we're going to try and control this situation. I don't know. That was my thing. But yeah. All right. Yeah. Impossible to say for sure. Other people are thinking their mind if they don't actually say it. Of course. All right. Really, who knows? All right. Give me this. You've been doing it

your whole life. A lot of change. You're now three weeks into it. Give me one professional high and professional low since making that decision. So one professional high has just been the work-life balance, I would say. It's very easy to do things kind of on your own schedule when you're just going to be content creating. So you're allowed to take trips. You're allowed to visit family. You're allowed to work on Saturdays and Sundays, as opposed to Monday at 9 a.m.

You're logged in for a 9 a.m. So it's a lot more flexibility with that. And that's something that I really like. And ultimately, I don't know if I'm going to be, and this might be a question for later on too, but ultimately I'd love to be able to go back to some sort of selling capacity. But at the same point, this lifestyle I'm seeing right now,

is something that I would love to have as like a parent when I'm older. So I can actually be there for my kids, if the kids have a soccer game or baseball game or wrestling match, I can actually go there. I can be a coach while still being able to provide for my family financially because I am still working in some capacity. Yep, exactly. So that's, I think, is probably the biggest high for me from stepping away and actually being able to do content creation. The low is more so kind of getting out that mindset of I need to be busy 24-7. I feel like I'm still kind of in that mindset and I feel like, when it comes to like the corporate world, you have to be doing, you know, what you're doing

24-7, you have to be plugged in, grinding right away. And you can have a little more of a balance of maybe taking things for yourself and maybe taking a second to really kind of gather your thoughts before going into the next thing. Interesting. So you think when you're in that corporate grind, it was a lot of like checkboxing. And now that you're in this new space, it's like you don't even, sometimes you don't feel as accomplished because you're not checkboxing. But in reality, you're actually giving yourself more space to, like, think within tech, like, checking those corporate boxes. Exactly. Yeah. I feel like there's a lot of, like, you get the anxiety that, you know, you could be doing more, especially in sales. It's like you could make a couple extra calls.

It could be doing something else that goes above beyond to set yourself apart from somebody else. Yeah. But if you're not doing that, is it really going to be that negative in this space? Okay. Because in sales, it might be, but in this space, it might not necessarily, or might just not be necessary. Okay. We talked about Amy and what your thought process was with the burn rate is yours similar. Are you on the same page with you'll give it a shot until the end of the year for sure and maybe a full year or is there a different timetable for you? So right now it's definitely going to be give it to the end of the year. So December is going to be when we really have that hard decision of what do we want to move forward? Do we want to continue this? Do we

want to maybe change and shift focuses? Do I might want to switch another career path to whether it be going back into software sales, going into IT sales, going into maybe some more flexible, like even real estate too. Because I do like selling. I do like, you know, meeting people and working with them. But at the same point, I do like this flexibility to have right now. So it might be a different capacity. But at least until the end of the year, we do want to get this a shot and really just bend ourselves and see how far we can take this. Okay. And then from there, really just kind of figure out what we're going to do next. Cool. This is a question for I know my listening audience. They'll say, okay, it's amazing.

I love what they're doing. I'm excited about it. I'm inspired by it. What about benefits? You guys had all these benefits with big corporate. How do you guys have benefits today? What does it look like? What'd you do?

So I think it was when the show first came out, we actually started working with our talent company Rewired. I did have a call with you right away. And it was really going to be focused around benefits. As far as, hey, how do we actually get health insurance? How do we get vision dental? I got to be honest. I swear, obviously, we have talked before.

You were rewired. There's a lot of conversations. Like, I forgot about that until we, I just brought that up. Swear to God. Now I'm, now, it's like, I'm coming back to me. Because that was like, that was a long time ago. It was really the first conversation. I forgot about that.

That was the first, because you reached out to Megan about that. And that was, I swear, like, with everything in my body, I totally forgot about that. Yeah. Yeah. So what did you end up doing? So we ended up going basically two different paths. So I, I don't know. I went with the kind of the route that you went down originally.

So I had the United Health Care Golden Plant. Yeah. So I have that one. I actually just got enrolled in it about a week ago. Nice. So having it to use it, which is really great. Cool. Knock on foot, exactly.

You're good. But that's where really started doing with that. And then that's really going to be health care focus. As far as retirement, we've met with a bunch of financial planners around that to really help out with what should we continue to contribute while we're still paying our bills, what we're still trying to really figure out what commission or just what we're going to be making in this space as a whole. Yeah. So we mean with them to discuss like the retirement benefits and the retirement planning. and then also just different people like just kind of like a CPA or like a sure just kind of set up like everything as far as like a business expense goes okay cool I

love it so you went with the goal of the rule guys with the recap I'll break down all the different insurance options if you decide to become self-employed Amy I'm curious though you said it's different what did you end up doing yeah so I ended up going with Blue Cross Shield advantage just because I have health condition I stay struggling yeah unfortunately he's more of a healthy boy and he barely goes yeah to the doctor but I need a little bit something like I need something more that could offer a little bit more. So that's kind of the route I went on. So talk to me. I know they're going to ask money mafia. You already said it. Price here. Give me how much you pay per month for your insurances. So right now I think I'm paying

about 200 for everything. So it's going to be for medical, for vision, for dental. And that's really going to be up right there. Yep. That is exactly. I think I was paying with the golden rails paying like 175 or so. Yeah. I'll tell you what I'm currently paying after Amy. Amy, what are you What are you paying? So mine is at, I believe, three. Yeah, wow. So I think, yeah, 3.44 for self-care and then 30. So I'll tell you guys my story in the recap, but I was on the golden rule.

I then had to, I got kicked out of the golden rule. I did a, I did a, I'll tell the full story in the recap. But essentially I did a proactive health exam for preventative that just one of my friend's fathers had a heart scare. And I said, when he's 74, he was worked in health care. There was one thing you would have done differently because he had a quadruple bypass. Like he should have got it. It was four arteries are blocked.

And he's like, this is the thing I would have done. I would have got this scan. I go to get that scan. I had a little bit of a hiccup in it. And then Golden Rule kicked me out. So I had to go to Affordable Care Act because I got kicked out of Golden Rule. And now I pay $3.75 too. But I'll tell you all the specifics in the recap.

So more to come on that. But I know people are fascinated with that. Now that we know everywhere you're at, professionally, and where you're at, this is what we've got to talk about. It's a big thing that people listen and you guys have talked about it on your social media and you've talked about it on TV, what's next in a relationship based on what you guys have talked about, possibly creating a family. But with family and children, there becomes a lot of things that you want to achieve

personally and financially, big discussion topics for each of you. And let's just go back to Love is Blind. There was, you know, on TV, there was you guys talking about. about like the whole idea of even being intimate because you wanted to make sure you were personally and professionally and financially aligned. Let's first start there. Talk to me about that thought process when you were holding off on intimacy because you wanted to make sure the foundation was there before even taking a chance at that. I think that also connects to preparing professionally and financially as well as you think about kids. Yeah. I feel like that thought process kind of

Like the whole conversation initiated because we were on like opposite ends of the spectrum in terms of our life experiences and like where we kind of stood at that moment. So when we talked about it and we were just like what if something happens, we were just trying to like cover all the bases. I feel like we are very much overthinkers. And so. Which is so opposite from the north. Most people come on the show. It's a total opposite. Oh, exactly.

Yeah. I think the big thing that really got to like me though, is the fact that it was just very fast-paced. Yeah. And it's true. And we don't need another. Like, we expedited, we expedited the dating process, ex-pliting the, you know, being in a fiancé, like, half-space.

And then we got married right away. Yeah. The last thing I want to do was just expedite the next process and just start popping out. It's like, that is just very, very fast. I'm just not comfortable right there. And I mean, neither was I. And I feel like we both align on our timeline on when we wanted to have kids, how many kids.

like we aligned on that. Yeah. But we talked about like the what if and like me not being on birth control did raise that risk. So it was just an important conversation to have and be cautious around. Yeah. But I think more so like that conversation really sparked that how are we going to start having these actual difficult conversations in the future?

Yeah. And kind of going back to like what I said before, like leaving that foundation of, you know, when we're just starting to talk, how are we going to be having these conversations? Is it going to be very much, no, I'm right, you're wrong. Like that's it? or is going to be, hey, let's actually figure out why you're thinking this way or why I'm thinking

this way. Yeah. And kind of dive deeper into, okay, well, you know, growing up, this was the expectation versus this was the expectation. Sure. This led us thinking this way. So as a couple, we can, you know, again, meet in the middle in a certain kind of, you know, middle ground. Yeah, a very, very, very mature approach. I mean, when I wrote my book, Talk Money to Me, one of the big stats was three quarters of relationships deal with money tension issues and that they're material tension issues and half of those over half of them have decreased intimacy because of money issues. So it's interesting that you guys kind of reversed engineered it and the fact like, hey, let's proceed with caution to make sure everything is aligned first. That is extremely mature. It's very intelligent and it's obviously

it works for both you two. So let me ask you this then. What when you have these financial conversations, because you guys are doing them at such a fast speed compared to all Americans statistically, where has the biggest disconnect come when you're, because it's hard to step in these. Because when you step into them, you're going to disagree. That's why it's hard to step into it. Where has been like the biggest disconnect with the financial discussions? I was a disconnect. Is it spending? Is it like earning? Is it like the idea? What is it though specifically that you've identified? I feel like initially it was just more so, I mean, he studied finance. That was like his major. Like that's his thing, which I absolutely loved because I

I feel like that wasn't my strong suit. You know, I had graduated grad school and then just was starting out my career and my life. So it was just a lot of new territory for me. You know, I had my savings account. But, you know, I didn't know about, like, high yields. I didn't know about investing. Like, I hadn't, like, really dove into that. So I feel like my thing was, like, I like to live more in the present.

And, like, I didn't really think much about the future. But I know that there's an importance in the future. But I feel like I gave more importance to the present, whereas he was more so focused in the future. and not so focused in the present. So I feel like that's where we were kind of very much opposite, but we did meet in the middle to create that balance. And I feel like, you know, that's something that we did have consistent conversations about.

And I feel like to this day, it has helped us. And in both ways, I feel like I've learned so much from him and, like, from the resources that we've seek. But he's also, like, been able to live more in the present and, like, have fun and all that. So I think I'm hearing, tell me if I'm wrong, but I think I'm hearing you're maybe more of a spender and you're more of a safe. Yeah. Is that correct?

So then just getting that on the same playing field, I always say, like, we associate spenders immediately with negative connotation or sabers with great connotation. And there's pluses and minuses to both. You nailed one of them. Savers sometimes have a tough time, like enjoying the resources that they've earned because they're worried about it, right? That's typically where I am. But spenders also have a ton of great qualities. They can see opportunities and capture them. They probably have higher risk tolerance, which means that they'll be able to probably earn more on riskier things that they do with their mice. So like there's, it doesn't mean one's right or wrong. I think it's finding the compromise in going and figuring that out. I feel like it's also like growing up,

we were definitely both rooted like different financial kind of like beliefs. Yeah. As far as like with me, it was very much every penny you make, save at least a little bit of it. Yeah. Versus like other aspects might be, hey, like I have this now. Like I want to spend on it right now. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's the thing. Like I mean, even with my family, my dad was also very much of a huge savor, but also, like, you know, being that provider in the family. And so I feel like we both came from lower economic, you know, backgrounds. And I feel like with that, it can either go either way. And I feel like that's exactly what happened. So with him, he kind of adapted that belief system. And I also, I didn't. I just was like, I want to live my life because I'm so sheltered.

And I was like, I'm going to spend all this and do all this. But, you know, I felt like, us, you know, being together really helped us learn so much in so many different aspects and kind of meet in the middle. Okay, cool. Talk to me about tactics. Have you, have there any specific tactics that you've implemented? Have you created a joint account? Do you review financials once a month? Do you like tactically do anything that has been very helpful or that's worked? Yeah. So the big thing is that we did start doing a more like a joint like kind of business account. Cool. So as far as concentration goes, yeah, everything is kind of funnel into that account. And that's basically how we know kind of what we're making,

what we have for, you know, just, you know, the month or like, you know, up to this point right now. Yeah. From there we have kind of like our, you know, business expenses and also like our personal expenses. So we take a certain amount each month towards like our personal expenses. And that's, hey, honestly, get whatever you want to get. I could care less about exactly what you're picking out or what you're choosing. Wow. You get whatever you want to get, treat yourself to that one. And I'll do the exact same thing on my end too. That's really. So you guys have the business pool, the income goes in. And then from the income, you'll decide how much you could do with it personally and you just do whatever the hell you want to do. Do your thing.

But also not to that extent. Like we also will put a good amount of money and savings. And you'll save it too. You know what else I love to is it's, it's not, you're eliminating this whole shame and guilt of where you're spending your money. It's more like, hey, let's make it together. And then what we have and you want to do, if your priority was spending this is A, B, and C, go do that. Like that doesn't mean it's my priority. It's my priority. but it makes you happy. So I think that's a great system. I feel like growing up too,

I did see other families that were very much like the husband's kind of a hawk on the wife and like, oh, why did you buy this? Why'd you buy that? Or vice versa. So it's like, let's not even do that. If you really want this,

I can't stand when a buddy of mine is like, ah, she's got 1,500 Amazon packages that you're up. Hey, asshole, I just saw you about $2,000 on a game, okay, and you lost it. So the point is, it doesn't mean that one's right or wrong. Well, it does based on the amount of stuff. But if that's what

makes her happy and that's her number one priority, let her do that. And if gambling is your form of entertainment, your number one, whatever it might be, you and then, you know, the other areas where it's lower on the priority list, assuming you can afford it all, cut there. But like, I think that judging, weaponizing, shaming, it shouldn't be able to. It's just, it's, it's, it just creates resentment. And then we know with the money and love game, the resentment, decreases intimacy, decrease connection. I feel like, that leads to, like, that's the key word. And I feel like that's something that we talk about all the time is like, how can we eliminate resentment buildup in the future? Yeah. And it's by like having open and honest conversations, not letting things

get like swept under the rug. Yeah. And just like that, like in terms of finances, like allowing us to be us as individuals because, you know, my personality is I like, you know, the good things of it. Yeah. We are very similar in a lot of ways. We're also very different in a lot of ways too. And I don't want to say, oh, no, like your way's right or wrong. Yeah. I want you to be your own person. We are together because we are good together, but we're only good together because I am Johnny and she is ain't. If we were just lumped together, we probably wouldn't be very good together. Yeah. You guys are going to have to write a love and money book. I mean, you got joint accounts, you got a spending plan, you talk about it, you know it, you understand each other's differences.

It is, it's quite impressive. I want to go to this transition. Let's talk a little bit about Netflix. We love Netflix. We love their shows. We love their talent. I'm curious, though, with The Bachelor, I don't know if you can share this or not. I don't think it's anything that you couldn't share but with The Bachelor, sometimes people come on and they'll pay for your ring or they'll help with the wedding or things like that. Has there been anything like that?

Does Netflix help out with the rings or the wedding planning or anything like that? When it comes to finances and your personal lives now that you're married because of the show, what's it look like? So production was very good with basically kind of giving us all the resources that we needed

to essentially get married. So the calls for the ring, that was covered. They really, really nice. Wow. That's awesome. The wedding also covered, too, wedding planning. They were able to just basically kind of get what our thoughts were on this, like what kind of style we wanted, and they were able to basically do that for us. Yeah, they kind of just made it into reality because I feel like we were so busy with balancing everything else

that we didn't really give as much time as I would have wanted, and thank God, it came out like as it did. But like, I feel like we didn't give it too much thought as to like what a wedding. Like I hadn't even thought about like how to plan a wedding before that. So it was just like so much new stuff for us all at once. But I feel like we just kind of talked about what we like, the aesthetic that we liked and they brought it into fruition. They did an incredible job. You know what?

I mean, listen, you're given an opportunity through a show and then it creates so much opportunity that you might be able to leave your jobs and create a different direction. And then so many individuals leave the shows and then try and point the finger at the shows and beat them up. And it's so great to hear that they help you with all that financially, planning-wise,

the time commitment, et cetera. That is, that's awesome. All right. Go Netflix, Go, Love is Blind. Do you see a future in TV, Netflix, reality TV? What does it look like? Give me odds here. We talk numbers here.

Give me the percentage that we might see on another reality show in some capacity. I'd say a probably solid 20%. 20%. Okay, what kind of show would it be if you want? If it was, it'd have to be some sort of like a, like a, like a, challenge type of show. Yeah, well, certainly it'd be a dating show. Definitely not a dating show. I feel like we are. Check that box off. We're not successfully. So, but it has to be something like that. But the way that I see it is that it was very fun. It was very

cool. But I feel like you leave a lot up to chance. And I don't know, I kind of like to be in control of certain things. Yeah. So that's why it's very kind of like lower on the spectrum right now as far as you've put out content. Like I want to be able to see the concept before it comes out. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. You've rolled the dice enough. Yes. And I got extremely lucky. Like, it worked out absolutely perfectly for us. Yeah. We want to kind of come out as winners

as opposed to, like, going back in and then see what happens afterwards. I know you guys have talked a lot about buying a house and real estate, definitely staying in Charlotte. For the foreseeable future, yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's for the next, like, three years. I feel like, yeah.

We'll see once. Amy's family is still located here. My family is spread out across, like, Maine, New Hampshire, now, Texas as well. So it's basically, we have. have family here, why not stick by it? Because if not, it's, okay, we go to either somewhere where we're going to be completely isolated or by half of my family, when it could be

Amy's whole family. You guys are making it tough to find holes. I'm like, where are the holes? I want your honesty here. I'm going to say a couple numbers, and I want you to just tell me if you know the numbers about each other. Just be honest, though. Do you know one another's credit score? Around?

It's funny because I just checked my credit score. I found a hole. I found a hole. What is it? Give me a roundabout. Wait, do you want me to guess first? Yeah, I guess first. Usually I'll have like the pad and paper when you can write down, but I just came from the flight.

So take a shot. This is the honesty policy. I want to say 720, 715, somewhere in that kind of range? I think it was like 740. 740? Oh, a little higher, not a big deal.

That's got. Take a shot at Johnny's. God, I didn't see. This is something that we were talking. I know. This was. I found a hole, baby. I did.

my job after an hour. I think I'm going to guess like seven. 58. Wow. Exact number two. No, it took a hit. So I'm sitting at about 7.30 right now. Okay.

You know what's really good is last time we did this on the show, Credit Karma came in and did sponsor. Oh, God, who's coming on sponsorship? Yeah, they got a deal from that. So while we're on it, if you don't mind sharing, just because someone could learn from it, what happened that created a hit on their credit? So basically, it was...

We've did a lot of travel, and some of it was covered, but others of it wasn't. So basically, it all went on the credit card. That went up a lot, and now when the process is basically paying it down. Got it. Okay. So there you go. Let me ask you this. Do you know what another's around annual spend?

Oh, I don't know if you had to guess, or monthly spend if you had to guess. Monthly spend might be a little bit easier. Yeah, monthly spend a lot. I'm like, I'm buying you. Let's play the game. Let's play the game. What do you think? Again, this is approximation.

They're not good, techno. Proximation. How much a month do you think? I would say maybe like close to 6K. What do you say? I'd say it's pretty accurate. Okay. Let's go, Amy.

I was going to say for Amy, it was probably going to be around maybe five to six. No. Less or more? I feel like less. I would say maybe three. Good for, and you said you were the spender. This is some bullshit here. Listen, you're doing good terms of.

dinners, it's, oh, here you go. Here you use my car. We're not going to use Amy's right now. And that kind of adds up a little bit. You don't have to start using that joy business car. It's called business dinner, right? I love it. All right.

Well, we did find at least one or two holes financially because it seems like everything has been perfect. Let's end with this one because it's a fun one. What do you think there's one thing that Johnny overspends on? And unless Johnny goes broke, he's going to continue to overspend on it. What do you think the answer is? Then, Johnny, let's go to what the answer is. So sometimes he does get in.

So just buy, like, things for the house, but it's also like nothing crazy. What is he over to spend up? I want to say dinners, but that's because it's me. I'm not the problem. Dinners. What do you overspend on unless you're broke? You're going to keep spending on it? What's the answer?

It's just food in general. I love going to dinners. I love just, like, having a full fridge. Yeah. And just like, food in general. What are the options I can have tonight? Okay, we can cook this tonight. We can do that tonight.

We can do whatever. I respect that. Are you good cook? So my little sister. Ironically enough, Milster posted a Snapchat that I took probably about two years ago. Yeah. I was trying to cook rice. Okay.

And it turned into just like a weight. So it was like pick the weight. Like a paper weight? No, no, no, no. It was like a three pound, like weight of just rice and it was solid. And like you can like drop on the counter. It didn't move. It didn't spread apart.

It didn't break. It was just solid. How much butter did you put in there? I guess not enough for way too much. Are you a good cook? I'd like to think I am, baby. Oh, okay. her grandma, her mom, and her aunts

taught her very well. So as far as Puerto Rican food goes, she's really good at that. No, it's so funny because the whole, like, that was just white rice. And I remember the beginning of our relationship, I made just white, I mean, I'm like, it's the most basic thing. And he was like, wow, this rice is like the best I've ever had. What'd you put in this? Like,

is that guy on her? Let's go to the aisle. All right. Last one we'll do. Got to go to Amy. What's one thing you think she overspends on unless she's completely broke? She'll keep spending on it. What do you think it is? Oh, stinker. Oh, actually, yeah. Skincare a million. What were you going to say it was? I'm going to say traveling. Traveling.

Because even like, you know, like we'll do our couple's things, but I love going out with the girls too. So I'm like if they're ready to go somewhere, I'm here's my card. I'm putting my money down. You've got to have that girl on time. Yeah. I love it. So I would say, yeah, traveling and skincare, like, I think skincare, because I feel like every day I come back, there's always like either an Ulta bag or Sephora bag and like it's always there. And it's like, oh, what's this? This is a different size bag than yesterday. It's like, this one's like, this big. This one's like this big. It's always something different. But I put him on.

There you go. You're on the seat. Both you guys, great skin. So you know what? There's benefits to that, spend. All right. Well, let's wrap with your trading secret. Can't learn it from a professor. Can't learn it from a TikTok or YouTube tutorial only from your life experience. It could be a financial tip, professional tip, or personal

tip. Who wants to give their trading secret first? You'll probably go first. All right. Johnny, give us a trading secret. I feel like the biggest thing is like when you're feeling comfortable, that's probably the best time to make a move and do something different. Because it's very easy to stay in the same place year over year and just stay in that same mindset. So it's best to take a chance in yourself and do something that might be out of the box because you really never know how well it's

going to work out. I love that. I love it. And also with tough, I think a lot of what you've done too is stepped into tough conversations. And I think it's tough to do that. But when you do step into those, it could be so preventative of tough situations down the road, which is something you've clearly done. All right, Amy, one trading secret. What can you leave? It's so cliche, but I would say follow your intuition and your gut and just trust where it will guide you. I feel like I'm very happy where I am right now. I'm glad I took that risk, but it's one of those things that it could change in the future and my intuition might lead me somewhere else. So it just kind of all comes down like serendipity and like what comes across your path and what to take on. So yeah. And I think

anyone can relate to question your intuition because of other people's perspective or judgment especially on social media, but in all areas. And so trusting that is huge and it's everything. All right. Well, if people want to find more of Amy and Johnny, where can they find everything you guys

got going on? Yeah, Instagram. Instagram's really the main one. So you can follow me at Johnny underscore underscore McIntyre because apparently there is a Johnny underscore McIntyre already. Yeah, don't screw that up. Two underscores. Don't go give that guy follow. Okay. And are you on TikTok as well?

TikTok as well. I'm not very present on TikTok, but I'm trying to start making a lot more content on TikTok. And we know if you want to get a hold of Johnny, just go to his LinkedIn. He's also on Snapchat. Oh, and Snapchat too. Oh, man, we've got to figure out how you Snapchat. Yeah, I had it and I deleted it.

It's been fun. We had one person come on this show who at 18 and five weeks made over a million dollars in Snapchat. 18 years old. That's crazy. Where can people find you, Amy? So Instagram is Amy Tiffany with one Y and then TikTok is Amy Tiffany. too wise.

You guys are keeping people guessing with these at handles. I love it. We'll give Amy and Johnny a follow. We're going to have to do a follow-up in a year from now to see if you're back in the corporate grind. We're still doing your entrepreneurial thing. We're excited to see. But thank you for trading all the secrets are coming on today.

Thank you so much, Chase. I appreciate it. Ding, ding, ding. We are closing the bell with the one and only the curious Canadian. We are talking all things love is blind. We know that Love is Blind season seven is out right now. And generally, it's mixed reviews out there. A lot of critics are saying that

this could be the potential decline of the show because of the show's authenticity. We know, right? Look at The Bachelor. It's been around 24 years. And of course, the biggest thing that's always been said for the right reasons. I think we're starting to question right now, as love is blind, are those people in it for the right reasons? Especially when we saw the massive, massive success

of last season's show. I mean, you had some serious stars on there, making serious bucks. But David, we got Amy and Johnny on here. beautiful, lovely couple, very well-spoken, very articulate, almost every perfect answer for two perfect people. What do you thinking, David? Well, I'm thinking a lot of things. Let me touch on the first thing that you talked about. Love is Blind season 7. The first season of Love is Blind I have never watched. I know that you already said to me before we hopped on Jay. He said, what, what use of my to you if the Curious Canadian is falling off his reality TV? But you know

what, whether it wasn't hyped enough, whether I didn't see it on my socials enough, I haven't been gravitated to watch this season. So I'm curious from your point of view, how the ratings are. I just wonder, am I getting over the hill? Am I getting out of the game? Or is this a consensus amongst a lot of people here about season seven? The first off locations in Washington, DC, you can't find a more boring location to me than Washington, D.C. to get excited about seeing people in. But I digress. I can see your brain work and I think you're doing your ratings thing. So let me talk about Amy and Johnny. I watched their season. I loved them. I thought they were great. I actually think that Johnny reminds us, reminds me a lot of our buddy Hawk. He's got the right

things to say. He talks about his work. The same way that Hawk talks about his work. He's very on point with the words. He's very professional. And they're a great couple. Dare I say, Jay, dare I say, too perfect of a couple? I mean, these guys, were zinging and zanging and they were yin yanging they were finishing each other's sentences you know the only thing that they didn't know is they're they're a credit score as opposed from each other and they were about 10 off so that's that was my take i mean they seem to have this thing down pat they seem to be in it for the right reasons they were authentic on the show they came off authentic in the podcast you were in the room with them i wasn't did you get that same

feel oh they're great i mean honestly they were great they're very sweet very good almost i agree with you almost like i almost want to be like come out give me something here. Like, this is literally just perfect out here, but... He doesn't brush his teeth before he goes to bed at night, or maybe he only, like, you know, he only makes his bed, but not that well. Like, I need something. Yeah, like, we're

talking about, like, I don't know, who's picking up the clothes off the floor at worst case scenario here. So I'm just... Yeah, who doesn't do the dishes? But they're cute. They're adorable. And it was, it was fun to talk to them because they're very smart people. You know, it's interesting. I'm reading some right now

in Variety. It said, Love is Blind, has once again return to the Nielsen ratings streaming top 10. The series re-debued in third place with 1.1 billion minutes watched from September 30th to October 6 during, which was the first six episodes of season 7 that were available for the first five days. So the first five days, Love is Blind was crushing it. But then when I go and look up, David, about the reunion and what just happened, right, I'm seeing something on screen rant right now, which like screen rant, whatever, you know, take the source for what it is. But I'm convinced Love is blind season seven's reunion was the worst yet. The show is failing after unsuccessful seasons. So when they're talking about

failing, I think they're referring to the actual relationships. But it looks like there's a lot of critics out there saying that as this season went on, it just got worse and worse. But, you know, David, let's take it back from Love is Blind to Amy and Johnny. Anything specific in this episode that I asked you to bring up or you want to talk through? Yeah, you got this insurance story that you were really eager you're really eager to tell the people it seemed like you were going to dig into a little bit of detail on the episode and he said let me wait sounds like a recap thing so i don't know anything about the story you're going to tell it i'm going to react we're going to go from there i'm glad you brought this one up david i'll tell you what this is the craziest story probably in in my

life truly wow so my good friend's father gets a quadruple bypass we're sitting together after he makes it out and said tell me the story he said i will he's 70, and he wakes up in the middle of night and he's feeling a little out of breath and his wife said to him does it feel like an elephant's on your chest and he said to his wife no but it feels like maybe a baby elephant 3.30 in the morning now I want everyone right now to think about 3.30 in the morning you feel like a baby elephant's on your chest at 74 what are you going to do probably go back to bed right like oh look it up his wife says no we're going to the hospital they go to the hospital while he's sitting there in the ER not knowing what's going on

they're literally telling him his body's having a heart attack. He has to immediately be rushed into surgery, blockages everywhere, quadruple bypass. The doctor said to him, if you went to bed that night, you wouldn't have woken up. Blown away. So I said to him,

I said, okay, there's a lot of learning lessons here. There's so much to learn. We talked for a while, but I said, what is one thing if you're my age or if I talked to my parents who were in their 60s, like what is one thing they could do to maybe prevent this given the fact that you didn't see this coming? He said there's a bunch, but I'm going to give you one. Go get your calcium score. Now, your calcium, and for my doctors out there, I apologize if this is off a little bit. This is a very

non-doctor description. But think about your blood vessels, right? Like your blood vessels, where the blood is flowing. Think about it like traffic on a highway. Everyone's moving, right? Well, around the barriers, if you think about your blood vessel as a cylinder, calcium can build up. And as calcium builds up, it's a slower vessel for the blood to move through. And when calcium builds up too much, there could be blockage, which could connect to a heart attack. So he said, just go get your calcium score. So I call my parents, mom, dad, go get your calcium score. My mom gets it done. Perfect. Couldn't be better. My dad gets it done. My dad works out six days a week. The guy's got a six-pack.

The guy's an animal. His calcium score is off the charts bad. Like literally the cardiologist can't believe his eyes, how much calcium he has built up. Now, he's gone through AKGs now. He's gone through stress testing. He's done dye placement through his

arteries to make sure that the blood is flowing properly. He's doing all the right things. He's on statins. He's me with the cardiologist. But thank God he did this at 64, and now he's ahead of it. So I said myself, man, if dads is that bad, I'm going to go. Okay? So I go. I get my calcium score done. I work out four or five times a week. I eat pretty healthy. Body fat is probably less than five

percent. Like, I'm a healthy guy. I always have been. My calcium scores off the charts. Like, what the hell? So now I am on a stat and I meet with a cardiologist. I have to get my calcium score checked out all because of my friends, father, giving me a piece of advice. Now, here's the kicker with insurance. I was on a small business policy, or it's more of like an entrepreneur policy where he has a five-year term. So my term was coming up. When they found out I had calcium buildup at any level on my score, they kicked me off. Wow.

kicked me off. And I fought it. My cardiologist fought it. My cardiologist's like, this is super early. There's nothing to be worried about. This is just early detection. Insurance said we don't care. They kicked me off.

And if it wasn't for Affordable Care Act, I wouldn't, I don't have my, you know, because of, I'm not, it's not very, it's not that affordable. I'm not getting any discounts or anything because of, of income and stuff like that. But without Affordable Care Act, I wouldn't have qualified for any insurance. And therefore, I would have had zero health insurance because of a test that I did to preventatively identify something in my body. When I went to my doctor, David, and I told him I want a calcium score. He looked at me like I had eight heads. He goes, dude, you're 35 and healthy. Your blood works perfect. You're not getting a calcium score. I said, order me a calcium score. It's like, fine.

And then he saw my results. He almost fell off the chair. Crazy. Crazy how medicine, like, it's not preventative in places we needed to be in certain areas. This is one of them. It was a learning experience. A couple of things stick out for me.

One, five percent body fat. I mean, that's right. That's right. That's what's your time. It's unbelievable. know what? When you're stressed in fucking a mess, you lose weight, okay? I've lost

12, 13 pounds, and I don't have 13 pounds to lose. All right, so that's just, that's amazing. Second, that's crazy. Wait, that reminds me of your comment. So I was at the Heidi Klum Halloween party,

and David and I, like, five days before we're crushing pizza, weighs sums. He's like, how is it possible? You pulled that off based on what we ate five days ago. It's like, that's because I probably haven't eaten since then. It's ridiculous. I'm like, why don't my arrest?

Like that. No, I can't believe that in 2024, assumed to be 2025. We're not at a place where medical practices, like, you know when you go to the airport and you put your hands over your head and they do the thing, how are we not at that where you just do something similar and you get a body scan and it shows all your organs and your, and your kidneys and all these things in your blood. And it just kind of goes through that and highlights the bad things that are going on. I got to stop you because in the intro, I talk about this. I actually did the prenu, I didn't, you don't listen to the intro until the episode

comes out. I'm not privy to that. Yeah. I did the prenuvo scan. Okay. Now, this is probably the most life-changing thing I've ever done. Twenty-five hundred bucks retail. They put you in a scan for 50 minutes. Head to toe. They give you all the information you could possibly imagine about your circulatory system, your respiratory system. They scanned every area of my brain. They gave me at my liver, my kidneys, my lymph notes, my lungs, everything. And then they give you no activity found, minor activity, or moderate. I found out through this scan that there are a couple things, either from some lung infection, I have a lung nodule, it's 0.5 centimeters. I know that I have cysts on both kidneys now, but they're benign. I know that on my lymph node, I also have a cyst.

I know that I have three areas in my spine that are minor, but I've got to watch out for. They do a full scan. Every single organ, your prostate, your knees, they saw inflammation in my knees. They give you the x-ray. Craziest thing I've ever done in my life, David, prenuvo scan, life chain my that for my holiday gift for my parents at the very least that's where i'm starting they're both getting their skin see that's also bullshit because i just feel like how many things are there about our health that we're just not told about or that we're not like educated on or that we don't know are available it's our health our health is the most important thing available and you say $2,500 like it's like you know that's not that much money considering all the things that

we spend on and it's related to the number one thing that we should all have the education on or at least the peace of mind on. It's kind of bullshit. And you'd think if that was a little more readily available, maybe that's something that, as we talked about in this episode, employers might offer as a benefit or something like that to be able to get that done for their employees once a year. I don't know. I'm just saying what's out there. Like when I talk to my like friends about this and I like show it like, or let's say like some of my parents or their parents' friends and I tell them it was $2,500. They can't believe it. Now, David, let me show you. Like this is respiratory. So they have like all these things. They have my sinus, my lungs, all this stuff.

Look at, I'm going to show you the scan of my lungs I give and all the information. So here's a scan of my lungs. So David's looking at this right now. You can see, look at the scan of my lungs. It shows the exact nodule. You see that red circle? Yeah. And it shows how big it is. And I know if that thing grows at all at any capacity, I have to keep an eye on it and it would help to immediately come out. It then tells me the recommendations. It tells me the description. Sheena tells me what can cause a lung nodule. And then after you do this thing, I met with a doctor for an hour and they went over everything A to Z.

It's incredible. It's nuts. That's nuts out there. Look at that. Look at all of this info. We're packing in this episode from Johnny and Amy. Just, you know, an all American reality TV, that's like, you know, that's what it's all about these days.

They're just doing it. And they're doing it right. And they're fabulous. So I loved the episode. I loved hearing about your stories. I love educating. myself on some health things. It was great.

David, to bring it back to money for just a second before the wrap up, because that's the podcast is about, right? How much did they say their health insurance was?

I just want to compare it. Johnny was $200 a month and she was $3.44 a month. Okay. So the plan I have, that's the Affordable Care Act's about $4.40. So just put a perspective. Yeah.

Okay, cool. Well, go get your calcium score checked everybody. Yes. Check out the Prenuvo scan. I think $2,500. hundred bucks if it could save your life is worth getting one scan to make sure there's nothing abnormal and love is blind season seven david you're the reality tv guy you're the you're the guy

that's supposed to be scrolling social media knowing all this shit you got to get back in the game yeah i might i might hate watch it you know if i hate watch something i usually crush it pretty good so i might i might give a little hate watch and go from there all right i like it i might actually like it who knows i like it david there's still one thing we got to do you're going to look at the reviews and you're going to pick three people who gave us reviews in Apple and just list off their usernames and we have three gifts for them. So if you guys are listening to this, we're going to do it again. We have two more gifts.

We did three this week. We'll do two next week. Just give us five stars. Let us know your biggest takeaway or a guest you want to have on. But David, list off the three usernames. And if your username is called, just shoot us an email, TradingSecrettec.com. And we will send you your winning prize. All right, here we go.

A great listen from Trading Secret, S-E-C-R-E-A-T is the username. Kind of sneaky in there. Love the positive outlook on life. Just a good, all-around, good listen. Love the variety of guests. There you go. There's one there. Yep.

Let's go informative and entertaining from Brit P-301. I love this podcast because it's so informative. I find finances so intimidating, but I'm learning so much more from just listening. I always get my Pulp Culture Fix. With some of the guests, LOL, one guest I would love to see on is Perez Hilton. Last one we got is Ali Silve. What a crew, exclamation mark. This group is what dreams are made of.

Justin was absolutely right when he said, you all have something special besides being on TV. Follow all of you independently and love to watch how you all continue to grow. Amazing job. There you go. There's three influencer closet winners right there. There you go. Ding, ding, ding. David, I'm glad you called them out.

Make sure those three people send us an email, Trading Secrets at jason tarryk.com. And if you are listening to this podcast, go to Spotify or Apple, give us five stars. We're going to do two gifts next week. It's the holiday season, so it's time to give back and give out. If anyone has anything else, David, before we wrap, wrap it up. Wrap it up. Thank you for tuning into another episode of Trading Secrets, one you couldn't afford to miss.

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