Trading Secrets - 236. John Sansone: Farmer Wants a Wife fan favorite breaks down the BTS of life on reality tv, navigating his own deals, and the duality of farm life and future plans

Episode Date: May 26, 2025

This week, Jason is joined by fan favorite from season three of Farmer Wants a Wife, the one and only John Sansone! John isn’t just the guy who brought heart, honesty, and a little southern charm to the show, he is also part of a proud legacy, helping his family’s fifth generation farm, a place that’s been in his family for decades. On top of that, he is also currently a graduate law student looking to dip his toes in the world of law & order. From early mornings in the fields to late night fireside chats on national television, John gave us a glimpse into what it means to balance love, land, and legacy. In this episode, John opens up about his mindset going into Farmer Wants a Wife, the surreal bubble of reality TV dating, and the career opportunities he was weighing before signing on. He shares the slow-burn story of his relationship with Claire, his candid thoughts on prenups, and what really went down during casting. John also weighs in on the Samantha situation, talks about his professional goals, and gives us a behind-the-scenes look at brand deals—including how ChatGPT led him astray on one. From growing up in a farming family to being courted by other reality shows (and why he said no), John gets real about his path, his plans for the future, and where he currently stands as a law student. Plus, don’t miss a rapid-fire round to close things out.  John reveals all this and so much more in another episode you can’t afford to miss! Host: Jason Tartick Co-Host: David Arduin Audio: John Gurney Guest: John Sanone Stay connected with the Trading Secrets Podcast!  Instagram: @tradingsecretspodcast  Youtube: Trading Secrets Facebook: Join the Group All Access: Free 30-Day Trial  Trading Secrets Steals & Deals! Photobooth Supply Co: Weddings, parties, corporate events—photo booths are a must-have for every party! And with PHOTOBOOTH SUPPLY CO, you get the hottest photo booths, step-by-step guides, and expert one-on-one coaching to help you get up and running fast! Curious how much you could make by running your own photo booth business? Check out their FREE Profit Calculator at STARTPHOTOBOOTH.com/SECRETS  Quince: Once the temps start rising, don’t get stuck in the same worn-out rotation-same tank, same shorts, same everything. Upgrade your daily uniform with Quince. Their pieces are easy, elevated, and somehow make me feel more put together without even trying. Treat your closet to a little summer glow-up with Quince. Go to Quince.com/tradingsecrets for free shipping on your order and 365 -day returns. Northwestern Registered Agent: Northwest Registered Agent has been helping businesses launch and grow for nearly 30 years. Don’t wait, protect your privacy, build your brand and set up your business in just 10 clicks in 10 minutes! Visit www.northwestregisteredagent.com/tradingsecrets and start building something amazing! Booking.com: Whether you're looking to earn that extra income, fill those vacant weekends, or grow your business, head over to Booking.com to see how you can get started today. The reach is global, the bookings are consistent, and the control is yours. For the bookings you've dreamed of, list your property on Booking.com 

Welcome back to another episode of Trading Secrets. Today's guest is a fan favorite from season three of Farmer wants a wife, the one and only John Sansone. John isn't just the guy who brought heart honesty in a little Southern charm to the show. he's also part of a proud legacy helping run his family's fifth generational farm, a place that's been in his family for decades. On top of that, he is also currently a graduate law student looking to dip his toes in the world of law and order. From early mornings in the fields to late night fireside chats on national television, John gave us a glimpse into what it means to balance love, land, and legacy. We're going to talk about his journey to love.

life after the cameras stop rolling and what it's really like to share your heart and your family's farm with America, all the inside scoop and trading secrets. John, thank you so much for being on Trading Secrets. Thanks for having me. I mean, what an incredible intro. Gary, well, you know what? You just straight out of a pamphlet. You deserve it. And first and foremost, I mean, I got to start off. Dude, congratulations. You and Claire. Thank you. Let's go. Yeah, pumped. Did you ever expect to enter a show like this and then actually come out with, you know, someone that you carry this deeply. Oh, I mean, God, no, I can tell you from the start,

I went into it with the secondary idea that I was actually going to walk out of it with somebody that I actually liked. That came second. Yeah. And then what came first? What came first is, you know, it's an insane opportunity to do something new

to walk on this new frontier and possibly make something out of it. And I was like, you know, if I happen to find a wife, great. If I don't, so what, you know? Okay. So I walked out of it with Claire and honestly, I like her a lot.

I was very happy with the picks and just excited to see where we go from here. I mean, is it, I always talk about this on The Bachelor. It's like the Bachelor bubble. In hometowns, I said that I loved the girl who was the Bachelorette. And I think in that moment, if you, like, put a gun to my head

and you said, do you really love her? I'm like, yeah, I did. But then, like, you get out of the bubble, you're like, whoa, what was that? Like, you know, like, your brain gets like a little bit, like, putting a different perspective. in that world. You're out of that world now. You're with Claire. Do you love Claire? Like, are you in love with Claire? Well, you know, it's not going to get into all that. But I think for now that stuff's going to

stay behind closed doors. And her and I will, you know, discuss that and say if we need to to each other. But yeah, you're right. It is like a bubble. Yeah. Especially after filming, you know, you have, I think we had about six months of basically hiding our relationship. Yeah. And it's tough because, you know, we can't see each other all the time. She lives in Chicago. I'm in St. Louis. Granted, it's close, but I was, I took a semester off for law school for the show. And then afterwards, I had to go back to school. So I was doing that. She was working. A lot of time where we just couldn't see each other. So it's six months. So I love comparing kind of like different reality shows, especially with dating. You know, the bachelor was pretty quick. Well, they'll film for three months. Not a month. You guys film for a month,

right? A month. And then they'll get it out usually, like usually within like two, three, three months. So then you have to do these things called Happy Couples Weekend, where like you privately go into like a sanctuary and have your time together and spend the weekends together or weeks. How do you, how do you guys even see each other without being caught? Well, the nice thing was that the production was able to fund a couple trips for us. Like I went to Chicago a few times and we just, you know, hung out there and hung out in local areas and stuff where we weren't going to be seen a lot. And then one of the highlights of it is they actually gave us a full funded trip to Tulum, which was nuts.

And I posted a TikTok while I was there and everything, and people were like, who's filming that? I think that was a little bit of speculation. But, yeah, I mean, the Toulon trip was bad ass. That is awesome. Well, I will say in the six months, you have everyone fooled. Yeah. Because, you know, when I told people that you're coming on, when I did, it had yet to be announced that you and Claire were together.

And so people were like, I listened to the Kristen Cavalry podcast. People are like, did they hook up? This is the most single. Most eligible people were like, you know, will he be the next bachelor? Like all these things. So you did a good job kind of like playing into this like, I'm a farmer, I'm single, I'm doing my thing. Yeah. I mean, that was the goal.

They basically, that was the tradeoff. You know, they fund all these trips and then I got to put on a face. You got to play the game. I played the game. You played the game. One of the things you said is like you didn't, number two and looking at this whole thing was like you'd actually come out with a significant other. Number one being opportunity before the show. started. Like what, by the way, I want to put this out there. I don't think anybody today goes on

reality TV, any form of unscripted without opportunity being the first or second thing. Like anyone who says otherwise is lying. But I do think that opportunity differs for everyone. So like what was in your vision? What did opportunity look like when you're like, yeah, let's do farmer wants wife? Well, yeah. I mean, I've seen people go on reality TV and stuff and walk out of it with, you know, major long-term brand deals or something like that or like, for instance, you started this podcast and all this stuff. So, you know, there were so many different avenues that somebody could take from it. And let alone, it's just like it's, it's another thing to throw on the resume that gets people talking. Like say, you know, I'm in law school. I want to go to a big firm or something.

A lot of them are obviously going to look at how well you did in school and what kind of legal experience. But then like a big factor of the hiring process is can they get along with you? or there's something to talk about. So that's something. Hmm. Interesting. Were you not worried about the impact that this kid? Like someone who's like a fifth generational farmer and we'll get into the farming business,

everybody, but then also going to law school, were you worried about what reality TV could possibly do to your actual professional career and trajectory for the negative? Yeah, 100%. It took me about a month of back and forth talking to people going through with my dad, praying about it to actually decide to go. Okay.

It was basically just jumping off a cliff and not being able to see bottom that's a good that's a good comparison luckily it's all turned out well so far hopefully it stays that way but it's only done good things for me and that was just a big risk we had to take in the beginning i love it all right we're going to get into business before we do i want to talk about you and claire a little bit let's just start with this first impressions right i mean she made a big first impression with you i think people have to make a big first impression in their professional life or in an interview or in their dating life how big of a role did the first impression play in like the entire entirety of the journey with you. It's an odd story. Like, I'm in full honesty, full disclosure.

Claire didn't really make as big of an impression on me as it may seem now. Interesting. Yeah. Her and our, her and my relationship was a very slow burn, which is kind of cool because, you know, it was a very short, rushed process, but ours kind of slowly became that way, which is more natural. But yeah, when I first met her and stuff, we do these things called OTFs after each day where we basically break down how it was to the camera. Right. What I said was, yeah, I think the date was a little dull. I don't think there was much to it. It's like, you know, we laugh about it now and obviously she was not upset because I obviously do really much like her now. Yeah, but she made me a scarf. She knits. She, she walked down with this scarf. I'm like, oh, boy, we're doing

all this stuff. Yeah. And then sat down and we just talked and, you know, at the time, didn't think much of the conversation. I think that's pretty wild. Yeah. Especially as a single guy, I feel like in past relationships, it's like I go on the first date with that person and I'm like, yeah, let's go. This is going to be my next significant other. But for someone that like a slow burn for my single people out there, like,

come on, give me some insight. What was the slow burn? I'm not a slow burn guy. Yeah. So like talk to me about like, what am I missing here? I don't know. I don't know.

It's like, there's obviously, you have to have that initial attraction. Obviously, that's immediately what I saw with Claire. I thought she was beautiful. But in terms of like, personality stuff like we go on this show every girl in our group is attractive so that's box is already checked so the one thing i'm looking at is like personality can we get along all this stuff so when that really on the first date she was very nervous so that really wasn't there she already

had the attractiveness so i was like well we'll just give it a shot because it's an interesting scenario we're on a tv show let's just see how this plays out and sure enough played out to everybody's benefit or at least mine yeah i love it it's it's awesome congratulations you got to love it. Now I want to get a little bit into this like whole love and career like track that everyone battles with that, you know, wrote a book about. But with Claire being in Chicago, you're in St. Louis. What do next steps look like? What do those conversations look like? Yeah, I mean, the conversations are obviously tough because I've told her, you know, law school's tough on a relationship because, you know, majority of your time is focused on school. She seems to be doing very well

in her work. You know, she's, I think, just got a recent promotion and stuff. So she's able to to take the time off where she needs it, just where I'm at in law school, I don't have that luxury. Yeah. So we've had those serious conversations and stuff, and I think a real benefit for us is being only three and a half, four hours away. It's easy. Yeah, so it's just a drive. Okay.

At this point, we know that she met your siblings. Have she met your parents yet? She has. Nice. And you met her parents? I have met her mom and her sister. And how did the parents meeting go? It went well.

We spent a couple hours together. And her mom and sister were both. asking me some pretty hard-hitting questions and stuff like that. They asked me, generally, what is the role of a woman in your life or something like that? And it took me a while to think because I was like, oh, boy, I better not insult these people. So I think my answer was like, you know, it's a missing link or something like that. And they seem to like that. You know, when they were like, I like, I like that.

But you don't catch me for a guy to get nervous. I mean, I do. You do? Yeah, I guess I just covered up. Well, I mean, that first episode walking out there with all those girls staring at you and you got to basically do a speech, you know, ad lib right in front of them. Yep. I was shaking in my boots.

I love. It's terrible. I love it. We're going to get into that. Before we get into that, I got to ask you about more about love and money. Do you have a take on preempts? I do have a take. Let's hear it.

I'm Catholic. It was raised Catholic. I think matrimony and marriage is a very big sacrifice for people. I know there's a way to work problems out, no matter how bad or. deep they may be. So I think a pre-up is kind of like a way out. And I think that that's not, that defeats the entire purpose of like that union. Okay. So, all right. Not a fan of them. I always like to hear different perspectives on it. So there's love meets money. And that's an interesting take here from John Sansohn. All right, let's get into so the show. They, they reach out to you via a DM.

You're thinking an opportunity could come from this. And opportunities have come from this. and we'll talk about that. But I'm always curious about the interview process. You know, with The Bachelor, it's like a wild, you know, Bachelor, Bachelorette, had a whole different wild process. And then other different shows that I've casted for. It's always night and day. So, like, what was the most obscure thing in the interview process?

I don't know. Most of it seemed pretty uniform. I guess the weirdest thing I had to do was basically walk around my entire property because the property is a big thing for them and point things out. I mean, I was like holding a camera up like this, just walking around like, here's the, so and so here's a so we can do this and that and then also the executives flew out to see the farm stop yeah so they had to fly out to actually view the farm because obviously in my video was my house

in st louis yeah so they flew out and we took a trip down to new hamburg missouri and they walked around the farm and got pictures and all this stuff interesting did you have any crazy like interview questions or like curve balls that that threw you some of the things that threw me when they were asking about, like, my preferences on women. Yeah. It was basically build a wife, which was really weird. I heard you say that in Christa's podcast. And they were basically asking me, like, you know, what's your preferences?

I would wait, hair color, race, personality, all this stuff. And it was like, you kind of feel uncomfortable. Yeah. Because, you know, everybody's got these preferences, but you just kind of keep them to yourself. Uh-huh. So, like, actually voicing them, especially to a female casting. Yeah, of course. It just seems a little uncomfortable.

For whatever your... Hilded wife was. Do you think they casted? Because I always, when every time you talk to like production, you're always thinking two things like, one, this is going to work for me or two, this is going to work against me. Did you feel like what you suggested is what came for your group? Very much so. Okay. I think they killed it. Okay. They killed it. Okay. Speaking of your cast, I got to at least bring it up. It went viral. If everybody's brought it up to you, I'm sure you're annoyed talking about it. But the whole Samantha kiss situation, right? So you're, and I heard you talk a little bit on the podcast, but like you had a pretty good

feeling that the tension was there and like there was some, there was definitely like some chemistry and maybe you're even like let on a little bit to believe like, okay, this is the time. Now, if someone, I want to defend you a little bit, someone who's had to kiss on TV, especially the first couple times to do it, it's terrifying. Awful. Right? I mean, you think about just going on a date.

Yeah. And you go on a date and you're vibing. Making the move towards a first kiss is always, you know, like, you. majority of the time you have a lot of confidence in doing it because you're not going to do it otherwise if there's not chemistry. But it's always like, you know, your heart's moving a little bit, right? Then you got to do it on TV with producers there and cameras watching you. Then you're led to believe that like this is a good moment and bam,

you get hit with the curveball upper hook. I'm not doing this. Knock my teeth out. So like looking back on it now, you came out, you're in a happy relationship with Claire, but like just looking back on it, take it some time, letting it digest. Like, what do you make of that situation? Give me your take, I'll give you mind. My take is that it was the best thing to happen for the show.

Yeah. Unfortunately. You know, it's tough for me. It was tough for me at the time. Now, I don't really give two dams about it. But, I mean, it's what every random, obscure Instagram account, TikTok account, clipped and posted. And that's what people saw.

That's what got people hooked. So if that's to my detriment, fine. You know, I took that risk going out on TV show. But all in all, I think, benefited the TV show in total and therefore benefited the cast yeah you handled it extremely well i think it was a massive moment for the show i think you i think you handled you don't think it's screen yeah what off screen you didn't well i mean what would you have done different knowing what you know now center home immediately yeah yeah i think that would have been the best approach no but off screen

it was it was a different reaction that's true yeah i got a little irritated little yeah yeah that's true All right. Well, my take, I'm going to give you my take. My take is no one in the world ever, especially when it comes to physical intimacy. You should ever, ever do anything that they don't feel comfortable, period. End a story. Put your foot down. Stand strong and do what you got to do. But in this situation, what threw me is the explanation. Because it felt as though like the intention was that there was a desire for her to kiss you. And the chemistry was there for her to kiss you. And what completely through me was the context of

why. Like, if you're going on a reality TV dating show, how do you possibly expect to leave the show with a boyfriend given age, experience, and life

without being at least open to a kiss when physical chemistry is there, communication is there, All the things are moving. What was the expectation? Why even go on the show? Well, I think just you're exactly right.

And that alone raised a lot. It just raised a plethora of questions about intentions, expectations, and goals for being on the show. And, you know, I told you from the beginning of this, my number one goal was like opportunities. Sure. But I also love that you're honest about it, too. I would love to get a girlfriend out of this because it's a fun opportunity. It's not like I'm desperately needing a girlfriend, but where I kind of kept it, you know, bottled up. I kept those goals kind of to myself.

Whereas I think with that situation, it may have revealed a little too much about her intentions. Interesting. Okay. Good stuff. Now we're going to get into business and what is next for you. Before we do that, just looking back at your entire season, like what do you think has been, you know, you talked about a career and opportunity. you stepped into a profession, reality TV, especially as a lead is a profession, it's one that you stepped into.

What was the biggest discrepancy from what expectation was in reality TV versus what it actually is? I think it was, yeah, this is a very easy answer. I think it was the amount of actual work and effort that goes into making something of it. Because a lot of people, I don't, like past seasons and this season, a lot of people just expect for it to come to you. You know, just going on TV is enough. But you actually have to put forth a lot of effort and work. And you basically, it's a full-time job to actually make this worth your while.

Well, as a full-time job, are you compensated to be on the show? Yeah, initially. Okay. Yeah. Care to share? I can't. You can't share. That's very much against the contract.

Let me just do this, though. I'm going to say it's less than 50 grand. Yeah. Okay. That's all. I'm going to stop there. That's it. I don't know.

We'll stop there. You don't know. Could be, could not be. But the upside, I think is going to be, I think it's going to be good for you. You're big on, I mean, it feels like every time I go on TikTok, you're trending on TikTok, you're kicking ass on Instagram. Professionally, now seeing what you've seen. You've been going, you've walked a couple red carpets now.

You know, you're starting to become what is called like a reality TV star and content creator. What do you think it looks like now? Well, I'm out of my comfort zone. I'll tell you that. This is insane to me still. What is that? Where are you out of your comfort?

And so on. Walking red carpets. I mean, I'm brushing shoulders with Alan Jackson and Siza and I'm talking to Benson Boone and stuff. I'm like, when in a million years would I expect to be doing something like this? Yeah. So like when you get a taste of that, do you, like, is your initial reaction like, I want more of this? I'm going to stay in the game. Or are you still thinking I want to go back to law school and possibly the farmer route? Oh, no. Hell no. The more that comes, the more drive it fuels. to keep doing this like. Yeah, yeah. Because it's fun. Yeah. And it's extremely profitable

if you can actually harness it. In a perfect world, you're never working on that farm again and you're not an attorney. Is that the perfect world? Perfect world is I still get my law degree. That's... Okay.

So you want to knock that out. Quitting law schools out of the question. Okay. But in too much time and effort. How are you two L, three L? Where are you at? I'm like two and a half. Or I'm like one and a half L.

Okay. So about halfway through there. December 20s, 26 is when I graduate. Okay. Okay. Would you ever go from full-time, law school to part-time law school so you could focus on this career track. Yeah. Is that what you think you're going to do? Depends on how well I do in the next few months. Okay. Yeah. But it's definitely a

possibility. Although some of the, a lot of things that people tell me, especially I wash you, is that like 2L year and 3L year is more easy. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. I think 1L year is the toughest because you get all these doctrinal courses and it's brand new to you, but you have more control over what you take 2L and 3L. Okay. So I might be able to get by. But yeah, it's like full steam ahead at this point. Okay. All right. Full steam ahead.

How have you been able to monetize yet off your social media? I've definitely been approached by brands and then, you know, just I don't know about you, but like this is all new to be. So when I see like brand deals coming in and stuff like that, it takes a lot longer than I expected to actually get to a point where you're making a deal. Yeah. It's like it's the initial invitation and it's like, okay, well, let me connect you with this person. Are you negotiating your own deals right now?

I have a guy helping me a little bit, but for the most part, yes. Yeah. Yeah. You, that's crazy. I'm in law school. I may as well use it. Yeah, I know, but you need separate. Like, I own an agency and I still don't negotiate my own deals because you need a separation

of talent and, like church and state, like talent and actual person that's negotiating because they're putting you on a pedestal and they want to pay you. And the smallest conversations like, you know, and legal like and or butt or or. It's like you can't be the guy doing that. You have to have someone doing that. the value that person serves and being kind of hard-nosed to get you what you need and what you want ends up paying for itself within the negotiation process. But I do agree with you. Like when you're getting a brand deal, if a brand reaches out to you today, there's so many phases that happen

before you actually get paid, right? So you got to negotiate the deal. Then it's the creating brief. Then it's the execution of the deal. And now some of the companies are putting 30, 60, 90-day payment terms on there. So you might not get your first check for another 120, 100, 150, 150, 100. 80 days. Yeah, that was the one thing I saw in, like, one of the contracts I was presented to me immediately redlined that. I said, that's not going to work. Yeah. You can't just pay me 95 days later. Oh, that's crazy. Yeah, don't do 90 days. Yeah, I would say 60 days max. Yeah. Absolute max. And you could also do like payments up front too, so 50% on signing, et cetera, et cetera. So think about this though. Like, so have you, have you been able to make, like,

as of now, have you been able to do deals? Like, are you doing deals right now? Very few. Okay. Very few. Okay. And not enough to really call. call it a profit. Give me a rough around of how much you've done in deals. You're going to laugh. Okay. About 3,200. Okay. We got to talk. We got to especially on the iron's hot. You got to strike here. Exactly. All right. And then when you, I honestly, I got to just say this because I got to stay humble as much as I can. But it's my fault, quite frankly. Like I'm not going to say who, but a brand approached me. And I was like, oh, this is insane. I can't believe this brand's reaching out to me. So I went on ChatGPT and I'm like, here's my followers, here's my engagement. How much do you

think I should charge? And they said, 1700. I was like, that's a lot of money. Interesting. So I charged that. And then I found out later on I could have been charged in 1820K. Yeah, I was going to say, I think you missed a zero because the two factors, chat GPT can't get, they can't get your relevancy. They can't get PR power. They can't get community. They can't get your ability to trend, which is hot right now, connection to a live show, all those things. Media, all that stuff. You know what? You're going to get there. I'm here to help if you ever need it. Let's talk about this, man. Everyone wants to know. Like, is this guy a farmer or what? So I have a million farmer questions here on soy, corn, wheat farming. I know the family says

170 acres, fifth generation. Like, can we get into the weeds on futures and all this stuff with farming? What's your expertise in the farming space? Yeah, I mean, I'll just give it to you straight up, which is exactly what I did with the executives over at Fox. and this is exactly what I did on the first episode, I'm enough of a farmer for them to cast me on the show. But in reality, my grandfather is still living on our family farm that's been our family for five generations. His great-grandfather came over from Germany,

settled in this area called New Hamburg, Missouri. There's a lot of German immigrants. And they have 170 acres of rocrops, corn, wheat, soybean, and they've been farming it for that long. We go out there all the time. My mom was raised on that farm. So she has it in her blood. That's a little more than I do.

And we go out there and help as much as we can. But in terms of like actually jumping into a tractor and going up and down these fields and harvesting and planting and spray and stuff, I don't do any of that. Interesting. Yet. Okay. I'm very much would like to down the line.

I'm very much opening to learning. But if people come out to me and start asking me about like the, you know, chemical makeup of a soybean or something like that i'm like i have no idea guys no idea about that do you do you naturally find an interest in it 100% okay yeah that's like the farm was my happy place i loved going on there and i love spending as much time as i can down there and you know like that type of work that physical labor that dealing with the land i feel like is very fulfilling yeah and i've seen how happy it's made my grandfather and happy it's made my mom's side of the family and i'd like to be a part of that. Is there anyone, so obviously your grandfather still lives on the farm?

Is there anyone from your mother's side of the family that's very much involved? Oh yeah. My, her, so my mom comes from four girls, one boy. Okay. The boy still lives on the farm on a separate house. Interesting. There's two houses on the farm. My grandparents and then his and his wife and children. Okay. So the farm will go to him. He'll have it. He'll and Harry. Because that's my grandfather's son. But that doesn't mean that I'm going to have mine down the the line. Okay. Not my, not this one, but maybe a separate one close by or in a different state, but I really do want to live that lifestyle down the line. Okay. When you think about like just obviously you've seen your family's financial success or at least your aunts and

uncle and then you see your grandfather's success. If you had to guess like either within the family or not like what I just have no, how much farmers make? Like do farmers make a good living? Do they make an insane living? Do they make a slit? Like what like how would you generally? How would you characterize that with what you do know. I think just based on seeing people and how they live and like hearing, you know, like the other guys on the show are legitimate hands-on farmers. So I hear from them too. I think farmers today are just getting by.

Really? Yeah. Yeah. My grandfather is doing very well because he had a career in banking. So he was like providing loans to the people in the area and stuff. Cool story. Actually, we were at one of these events and my grandfather's in a wheelchair now in this, younger gentleman came up and was like shaking his hands saying, you know, good to me, good to see

again, Larry and all this stuff. It's like really appreciative of what you did. Apparently my grandfather had given a shot to this guy while he was banking and given him a loan. Oh, wow. And he ended up buying some land and becoming very successful. But by no means should he have given him that based on his, you know, portfolio at the time. So you're, that's really cool about your grandfather's story. But your grandfather actually wasn't the farmer. Did he have a partner who was like the farmer farmer? He, so he, he had a major hand in how it was run. Okay. But his buddy down there, Randy, is the one who like basically has this conglomerate over all the properties in the area. Yeah. He'll like bring his equipment down because that stuff's expensive. Yeah. So he has it.

And he harvests and he brings, you know, the stuff to the grain bins and all that type of stuff. Yeah. Crazy. The farmer life, man. It's different. Very different. It's very awesome. Yeah. It is cool. The sun season is finally here and on its way, and maybe your wardrobe needs a little bit of a glow-up. Maybe some new shorts, maybe some new pants, shirts, tanks, bathing suits, maybe even new dresses. Whatever it might be, the answer is quince. The best part is everything with quince is priced 50 to 80% less than what you'd find at similar brands. By working directly with top artisans and they cut out the middleman. Quince gives you luxury without the markup.

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on it? Like what's one thing about the business? We probably wouldn't know unless we heard it from someone that's got kind of a look into it. I guess one of the things that I asked my grandfather about recently because I never really thought about it, but I was like, where does all this stuff go once it's harvested? And it goes to these central grain elevators in the area where like all the farms in the area bring their grain and they basically weigh it and pay them there. And then it goes to these barges

on the Mississippi River and goes down to Biloxi Mississippi and then gets on shipping containers and stuff like that and goes all over. Interesting. So a little piece of corn on my grandfather's property

could end up in a completely different part of the world which is really neat. That is wild. All right, for all my farm experts out there, we're going to come back. We're going to get, you're going to have to, here's the thing, though,

because you're not a farm expert, you're going to be in charge you're getting me a farm expert on this podcast. We got a deal? I got you one. All right, we got you one already. All right. You already got me one.

All right. Then another thing I got to ask you about life after the show. Farming, not in your close future, maybe down the road. Influencing, creating, whatever opportunities come from this, that's obviously on the forefront. Reality TV, would you go into reality TV again if you were asked? If so, like, what would be your dream show to go on? Well, I can, dream show is alone. You ever seen that one on History Channel?

Oh, alone's crazy. Crazy. Wait, you could do that? I'd like to think that I can. Don't know. Okay. For anyone that doesn't know alone, I used to binge this show all the time. It's a binge-worthy show. You get like the most, like some of the smartest people in the world. Yeah. And you'd have to survive out in the wilderness, but like legit survival. Like you're giving nothing next to nothing. Yeah. You hunt everything. You build your own homes. You have to mentally stick with it. And some of these people go like 120, 150, 180 days. Yeah. Do you have that in you? Like, can you build homes? I like to think that I can.

Hunting and all this stuff. I love hunting. I grew up loving Man versus Wild. That was my thing. So I was always out there building forts, trying to camp out with nothing, you know, making fires from scratch, cooking eggs over a, you know, a couple of branches that were on fire. And I like to think that I can, you know, but that's, we'll see. I mean. Okay.

Maybe alone. That show is, I mean, you're talking about a survival show. That is the survival show. It is the survival show. Because they give them a big thing of cameras. Here's some batteries, here's some cameras. You guys stay as long as you can. You outlast the other people, but you don't know when the others go away.

You're an extreme dude. Like, why not Survivor? Why not like Big Brother? I mean, I would do Survivor. You want to go right for the weeds. I would do Survivor. Yeah. Definitely.

Have you been approached to do another show? Before this one, yeah. Okay. But not since. Yeah. Yeah. What shows were you approached before this one? Big Brother.

Okay. Summerhouse. You were approached to do Summer House? Yeah. What the hell? How did they find you? Instagram. No way.

Yeah. And you said no? Yeah, I said no. Why? Because reality TV, to me at the time, I don't want to subject myself to, like, scrutiny to the point that reality TV stars get a lot. So when this show came along, Farmer wants a wife, my family had already been watching the first two seasons and we're like, you know, of all the reality TV shows, we think this is the safest

bet in terms of your concerns. So it makes sense because, you know, they haven't, they don't have an interest in making the farmers look bad. that's what I was worried about. Gotcha. Have you ever watched Summer House? No. Do you know any of the characters on or cast on Summer House?

I think, yeah, you had one of the... Yeah. Kyle Cook's been on. A bunch of a Jesse Solomon's been on. Wes has been on. I know Wes through my cousin, Stefan. Oh, okay. Yeah.

And I actually talked to him about this whole thing because, you know, he'd been through the reality stage before. So I know Wes, but I've never really seen the show. I don't know what it's about. Interesting. Yeah. I think you'd be great on that show. Put a farmer in the middle of the Hampton's unbelievable TV.

Sounds great. Why did you say no to Big Brother? I didn't know what it was. Okay. Yeah. It's just like it's not fit. Yeah. Naked and afraid also approach me.

You can imagine why I said no to that one. Yeah. That seems like an easy know. So you've been on the, they've been looking, reality TV's been looking at you for a while now. And here you go. You found your shot.

Found my shot. What has been the craziest thing from like your community or just like that you've seen from the people? Like, how is your life change? This essentially is what I'm curious. How is it actually changed? Luckily at home, it hasn't changed at all.

At all? The people in St. Louis, I think, are the ones who are giving me the most blowback and the most scrutiny, which is kind of funny because I literally see you in the schnucks or something. You're going to say that to me? What's the schnucks? It's like a grocery store. I don't know. Does Nashville have, what's their grocery store? Croker.

So St. Louis is his schnux. Okay. But it's like, I'll see you on the street. Yeah, yeah. But anyways, I digger. Do farmers, like, I don't know shit about farmers, like, do you guys throw it on like that? Like, if a farmer, is that how you guys settle things? I mean, I don't want to keep calling me a farmer, but like, you know.

Actually, you're not a farmer, you're right. But I mean, are you at, is there any part of you that's a farmer? It's in my blood. It's in my blood. It's in my blood. All right. My mother was born and raised on that farm and only, you know, left when she got married to my dad. Okay.

So. How many, how many hours? In your life, have you spent on the farm? On that farm? I can't, I'm not, hours is too small. We're trying here. But I'd say a couple years. Oh, shit.

Okay. We spend a lot of time. You got some blood sweats too. I've been out there all the time. Okay, gotcha. Have you, like, is, another, I'm just going off the cuff here. As far as facial hair goes, have you always done the mustache? No.

Oh, this is new? Yeah, it's fairly new. You think you'll get rid of it? I can't now. Oh, it's your brand, dude. You're stuck on there. I'd like to. because it's really a pain in the ass, but no, I think it's going to stick around.

I love it. Okay. Talk to me about, like, what is the truth? So I know you want to make some money. You want to, you want to move in this direction. But a lot of people that listen to these shows are often curious how people are going to navigate it. And they love to see, like, kind of like we've had a lot of people come on like a year from now, two years from now, three years from now. Like, in a year from now, like, what are products you want to do? What are things you really want to pursue? Like, what does it look like? Well, that's the thing that I, you know, I'm trying to look at, look for right now is, you know, I don't know how to navigate this industry very well. So I'm trying to talk to people that do so that they can give me an idea of what my potential is, what I should be pursuing.

But on a small scale level, I can't really speak for like a year from now. But on a small scale level, I definitely plan on starting a YouTube channel. Okay, cool. Where, you know, I get a lot of comments about my voice and stuff. I'll probably do like, you know, read bedtime stories or something stupid stuff like that, too. a microphone. And like, you know, if brands want to sponsor it, I can like put like a stack of Oreos on a table next to me while I'm reading a book or something like that. I just, that was one of the ideas I pitched and, you know, the people I've spoken to loved it. So we'll see.

I'll probably go with that. I think, call me crazy. I think you're going to continue to be on TV because I think you make good TV. I mean, I would be opposed to be honest. But you also make good TikToks. When you come up with these TikToks, are they all your ideas? Yeah, for the most part. At the beginning, a couple of them were from my sisters and Claire also helped with a few. But yeah, for the most part, I got to spend a lot of time scrolling. Which is tough on law school to, like think of an idea. Are you like this moment right now, you and Claire, you're together, you got all your social media. Are you currently in class?

No. Today, I'm on summer break. Okay. Yeah. And so you start back when in September? August. August. And then it's like one of your goals then to by August kind of.

have to kick classes because you're so busy with all this stuff? Ideally. I haven't really picked out my classes for next semester yet, but I'm going to with the idea that I'm going to be very busy. So I'll probably make it like really spread out. Okay. That's the luxury of being a 2L and 3L. That's the luxury. All right. Well, I do have some questions from the money mafia. I am going to just rattle them off here. Here, so someone, I'm surprised they said this. I don't know. They must not watch the show, but they said, are you a man of faith? I say you're very you're very vocal about that exactly all right so this question when does he plan on moving out of his parents place as soon as I get some traction on this okay yeah so build up a

couple bucks and then you'll be then you'll be there do you have as far as you if I give you one year from now you're on this podcast in one year how much money do you want to make off social media or how much do you think you can make one year how much do I want to make over you know six six figures. Okay. How much do I think I could make? Probably that, but like a little, maybe 70. Okay. This person asked for Ronnie Mafia, I think it's a great question after all of this, and we know that you have a significant other now, but like, do you think your happiness levels are higher now or higher before you got into the mayhem of this world? Higher now. By a long shot. Yeah, yeah. Do you worry at all about the fallout? Not really, no. Because I guess,

are you talking about in terms of like just like the fall like you're in the wave of like the amazing high just like what the negativity that can come with this the the change all that yeah a little bit yeah but i'm trying to take every step that i can now to mitigate that as much as possible like i know this thing's going to burn out it just is but i'm trying to make the most of it now so that it doesn't do you want kids 100% how many and what age so do you think you'll be married by it with kids if you had to guess everybody hates that i well girls hate that i say this but six i want six yeah well i'm from a family i come from six wow yeah so i loved having a big family you know they were my posse yeah so unbelievable built-in best friends all right this is a tough

one this is from fan how bad does he regret fumbling shan shan that's what i said because i don't think you had a shan okay edit that out john that money that money mafia does does not. Oh my God. Oh, Jesus. I wonder if they confused you, Gurney. Do you know what Sean? Shannon Ford. You got to be kidding me.

Oh, my God. This is officially a moment. And this is officially a moment. John for Farmer's wife. I love that they thought that you were. You guys do look alike. You got farming your blood? He's got the blue eyes.

If you do the stash out. You do it blue eyes. and you got a country. Didn't they ask you to go on? Yeah, you weren't on this farm. Wait, what? The casting director just hit me up about being in the next time. John Gurney got hit up.

We got breaking news everywhere. John Gurney is getting casted to be on this show. Oh, my God. I will, John, we'll do a whole podcast out of fibers. Why he's on. And then you're a farmer. He is a farmer. All right.

We already got your thoughts on a pre-nup, the day-to-day of the business. We got that. It's a random one. What's your favorite ice cream flavor from the Money Mafia? Praleen's a cream. Okay. This person asked, what is your favorite tractor brand? Yeah, having fun with me there.

They did. Holland. Holland. Holland. All right, that's pretty good. Then this person said, no question. I just want him to come over for family dinner and hang out. Well, that is nice.

Send me the address. There you go. They should do like, do you guys remember that one dating show? It was Joe Millionaire, and you had to figure out if the guy, was just an average Joe or he was a millionaire, they should do a show like farmers, like, are they actually a farmer or not? You got to figure it out. Yeah, I think they saw through me pretty quick. They saw through you pretty quick. When you think about, just I want to wrap with some of the stuff with you and Claire, when you think about just like learning lessons as you're

going through a new dating experience, what do you got for us? Trading secrets. Communication. I mean, everybody says it, but communication is absolutely everything, especially us. We're navigating this, very new frontier. We don't know what we're being faced with. We're basically there's the entertainment, what people see, and then there's what me and Claire have. And they, you know, they don't see everything. So we're... And I like they're keeping something private. Like I said, do you love her? And you're like, that's between us. I like that. And, you know, it's tough for her to navigate and it's tough for me to navigate, but we constantly communicate and tell each other how we're feeling about certain things. And that's how we get through it. Does she want to be in this space as far as like

the entertainment space? Luckily, that's another. the reason why you know pick claire too is because her and i seem to just have the same mindset going in and then ultimately at the end we actually ended up liking each other so it just kind of all worked out perfectly maybe you two will have a podcast together we'll see wow first guest all right first guest i would love to do it so has the farmer met his wife we'll see we'll see we'll see all right i love it well we got to wrap with the trading secret so it's something that's unique to your very unique experience. It could be anything. It'd be a life motto. It could be a financial trading secret, life trading secret, professional training secret, just something that is unique to

John Sansone's interesting journey, especially the last year. What can you leave us with? Yeah, I thought about this when I listened to the episode on the way here. But I think I would say is my whole philosophy on like going through stuff like this and big changes in your life and risks and stuff like that is as long as you like trust in whether it be your faith, your gut, or just being moral, if you consider those in the decisions that you make, it's all going to work out. And it kind of gives you this sense of comfort and mistakes. It gives you this sense of comfort and failure. It's like, it's going to work out. Just let it play out, but you have to be able to make the right calls. Yeah. That's so true because I feel like when it doesn't

work out, it's hard to think about letting it play out because you're just, it's like, what the hell, you know, this isn't, but exactly what you said. When your foundation's strong, when you know yourself better than anyone, you know your intention, your character, your integrity, you know eventually, and however it should, we'll always play out the way it should. I agree with that. Yeah. I think my, I always like to say, like, what is my trading secret? I think my trading secret from you, John, is just like, you're so authentically yourself that you just, like, you just like, listen, this is who I am. This is what it is. This is the truth. I feel like when I ask you a question, there's not like anything in your brain or filter that goes through

any type of like thinking of like, how do I answer this? You're just, this is the answer. This is exactly what I am. This is what I feel. You know, that's not where I am now, but this is where I want to be. She wants to be in this career. That's actually what I liked about it. Our first impression wasn't great, but we slow burned. And when you do that, so many people could connect you know what I mean because you're expressing things that maybe some people don't feel comfortable saying because they're afraid of being judged or mislabeled or whatever but actually when you do that you encourage others to to open up so that's my secret good yeah exactly and just one more comment on that's exactly what people see in shows and on social media yeah you know you can be you can have

everything that everybody wants but if it's not you yeah they're going to see right through it right I don't know how. I don't know how they do it, but people see it. The eye is sharp these days. To your point about this trading secret, if they don't see it now, they're going to see it. They're going to see it. They're going to see it. That is for sure.

All right, man, when you hit 100K plus in social media, you're coming back here, the YouTube video with Oreos doing ASMIR, whatever the hell you're doing. You're coming back to tell that story a year from now. Congrats on you and Claire. Where can everyone find everything you have going on? Not John Sansone is the two socials and then the YouTube channel. We're still thinking of a name. I love that. And a year from now, we're going to have a laundry list when I ask that question.

Farmer John, thank you so much for me on Training Secrets. Thank you. Ding, ding, ding. We are closing the bell to the Farmer Wants a Wife with Farmer John episode. The finale just aired last week. This was a timely episode, a whole different curveball from our episode last week, as we know, with the Navy SEAL who took down Bin Laden. So a whole different curveball, and that's the beauty of trading secrets.

David Ardwin, Curious Canadian, you're with me. What are you thinking? What do you think of the episode? I mean, this is the podcast in the nutshell. One week we're dodging bullets. The next week we're dodging kisses on who wants to marry a farmer. And that's what I love about. Farmer wants a wife. Sorry, Farmer wants a wife.

I'm a little stunned because when you were talking about that Samantha incident, I hadn't watched the show. And so this whole episode was new for me. Like, I probably, for some viewers, I was, I had to immediately go on Instagram and find the clip they were talking about. And it was, it was interesting to say the least. And the comments were very 50-50 on that whole incident as well, which we can get into a little later. But our boy, John, I mean, this guy is a reality TV plant in some sorts. He's got the voice.

He's got the, he's got the looks. He's got the mustache brand. I think a lot of my takeaways are really going to be questions to you. I haven't really heard a guess really not make it yet in this space that we've had on but really really talk about how not being shy very matter of fact about how they want to make it he wants this new life to be his career

he wants to be in media and social media and influencing 49,000 on TikTok I think he's close to 100,000 but 49,000 on Instagram close to 100,000 on TikTok $3,200 in deal so far um do you think as you the expert do you think he has what it takes do you think he has a legitimate career uh in this media space coming off what he's coming off i'm going to answer

the question but i got to ask you a question back you said reality tv plant what exactly is that mean it just seems like he's like uh it's he's too good you know what i mean like this is is this guy really a farmer we're kind of finding out not really uh but he's a good looking guy he's been asked to be on three or four different reality TV shows and Big Brother and Summer House like you tell me this guy next to Jesse Solomon that's not like Wild TV West Wilson Kyle Cook like Page de Sorbo so he just seems to fit the part so all but he still sees in the reality of making career out of it he's only dipped his toe in so I'm asking you can he do you see him would you buy stock in him

I would buy stocking him I think he has the work ethic for it I think he clearly has the look for it and I think he has the personality type that's differentiated with a lack of care of what other people think like there are sometimes in comments he gets shredded he doesn't care there sometimes he's super loved

and he's like it doesn't bother him so he's very unfazed by public opinion and he kind of has the look and he does his thing he doesn't care that he's like not the farmer but he's on farmer wants wife Like, I think it was just a matter of time, obviously, with all these different reality TV shows having interest in him of when he would pop, and now he's starting to pop. And I do not think this is the last that we will see Farmer John on reality TV. That's my bet I would buy stock in him.

So for you to buy stock on him to see the stock perform, let's say, what does his next move have to be? Does he have to be on TV? Does he have to just get a little better on social and just keep, you know, chipping away and building a social platform? what does he have to do for his stock to perform well i think he has to build and i think this goes it for anyone that's listening to this is like he has to actually build what his brand is right now he's funny and he was on farmer wants a wife and he's known as farmer john good looking guy but i think he really has to like step into what is the brand and to me i think the brand could be comedy like he's funny as hell maybe it's stand-up maybe like every step up maybe like every

kid he does is based on a comedy focus. But I think he needs to build the brand and I think we will see him on reality TV again. Okay. Do you think I've never seen someone talk about on a dating reality TV show talk about the person that they chose and pretty much have the most blunt like vanilla comments about the person and then how they met before, but they seem really happy. They obviously have a lot in common. Do you foresee their relationship?

from what you know would do you buy stock in that relationship? I mean, that's a tough one because he didn't show many cards. Like he, you know, which I, this is the thing that I find very refreshing about him. Yeah. Is it's not like, there's no, like, media training.

There's no, like, sugar coding. He just tells you exactly how it is, the way it is and what it is. And so, but, like, I didn't show me enough cards. It sounds like he's happy. But, like, He also kept me wanting to know more. Like, I want to go watch their TikToks when they do them together.

I want to try and read the situation because he kind of kept it. Like, I kind of respect it. I was like, listen, I'm going to keep all that private. We're going to keep that private behind closed doors. But also, I think with that, you go on a reality TV dating show and you end up with someone. I respect the angle of privacy. But at the same token, like, I think people are going to have expectations that you share something about your relationship, given that your relationship blossomed on reality TV.

Which is why he's, he's, he's, awesome though because he doesn't buy into that stuff and he's almost the type of guy where I feel like the less he talks about something it might actually have like that actually might mean something like oh I don't think he wants to touch about that because it's really it's like a really good and sacred

thing to him so he's not going to like use it as part of like his like you know headlines on his media tours and things like that so we'll see I mean we'll see it sounds like it's tough sledding right now law school St. Louis he's you know she's

Chicago. So it sounds like it's a little bit tough sledding, but that Touloon trip sounded phenomenal. Yeah. Do you know, now his name, right, is John Sansoe. Yeah. Do you know, do you know anything about the Sansohn family in St. Louis, his cousins? Should I? They are, yeah. They are, uh, I'm friends with some of the family, but like the family, like, once upon a time was on like either Oprah or like some talk show because they've, they've had a lot of success with their businesses. And then they, have you ever heard of the normal brand? Yeah.

The Sandstone family owns the normal brand. Okay. But like the, I believe the parent, I should know more. The parents have had a lot of success in the business space. But the family, they've had like, I'm going to get this wrong and I hate it, but they've had like 10 kids. Yeah. So there's like 10 kids in this family and they are all stunning. Like apps, like the guys are just absolute studs. The girls are absolutely beautiful.

the parents are like gorgeous and they're on like Oprah or like some talk show is like the all American family and those are his cousins and they like run St. Louis or like they're like very well known in St. Louis.

I gotta say something about that do because I don't think we've ever had a guess that say they want six kids but also still lives in their parents in their parents place. Like that's a little catch 22 for me. If you really think you're ready for six kids you might want to get your own place first there.

Johnny Boy. Okay. All right, you're giving him advice now. What's your time? I just got off of. I was thrown by six. I was thrown by the whole episode. I really liked him.

I wanted to keep hanging out. We went to dinner after. He's great. I want to continue to be friends with him. Like, he's hilarious. But he's, like, wildly intriguing. Like, I never knew it was coming next. Like, I didn't see six kids.

Oh, shit. I mean, I remember. Okay, you're saying so. Like, they have a lot, you know, the families are big and they're just like, I mean, they're all specimens. So I'm like, I get it. Well, I'm also. fresh off a plane about four hours ago with my kid from Orlando coming back home and I have one kid and the thought of doing that with six kids like no so when I hear and I immediately get home and I listen to the podcast bag of recap that's going to be fresh in my brain six kids take it up two rows on a plane then you're sitting behind them saying what did I just do six kids he's the one you know we always talk about this like I can't wait to see what happens in two three years like I really like I'm so like will he have will he be married with three kids like doing a different show what will it look like

I don't know. I will tell you, I came prepared for this interview with a ton of farmer questions because we've never had a farmer on. And now, like, I love this episode. We had a farmer on.

Yeah, Stephen B. Basically, I was going to bring it up. Similar. I mean, he was on the Joe Millionaire. He was a farmer. He has his own show. Now, McBee Dynasty,

season two dropping soon, actually on an electric show and he's very dead he's like the opposite of this guy he knew what he wants he's got crazy metrics he he did it da da da da he he's kind of capped out a little bit which I thought he would be a little bit bigger that's a lot of the roots of my questions if you think that our boy farmer john is going to make it in the way that he wants to make it well with with stephen we didn't we had two of a bond and we were really focused on the show so we didn't get into the weeds of the farming so pun intended we're going to have to

to get, like, another farmer on and get in the weeds of the farmer. Yeah, we don't want to be too corny. We don't want to be too corny, you know? Happel doesn't fall far from the tree. All right. So I think, I don't know, man, I think the Gen Z population is into Farmer John. Yeah. I think that's why he's popping off on TikTok.

I think his engagement's great. And I think if he nails that brand, we're going to see a lot of Farmer John. But who knows, man? And to wrap a bow on it, I think Stephen, B was all business, all serious all the time. And I think Farmer John is going to be, like you said, if he goes comedic, if he goes jokes, if he could

fire that, if he can get that TikTok snowball rolling downhill, he can lean into it, he can show up on our TVs in a couple other settings, like a big brother or something where we can really get to know him a little more. If you're listening, John, if it feels like I'm coming at you, I'm actually a big fan. I actually want to see more. So that's where

maybe I'm just pushing you. Maybe I'm just motivating right here. I want you to get out to that parent's basement. I want you to make that six figures in the media world that you're looking for, and I want to see what happens next with you. But make sure you finish law school, get that degree, or have a great insurance plan. But, day, that was a cool episode. You've got to love Drake Secrets, man.

We go from the Navy SEAL who takes down Bin Laden to Farmer John and everything in between. It's the beauty of what we do and how we do it. And, David, you've seen over 200 episodes, and you know what it takes when you see some of these people succeed, and you want to see Farmer John succeed, so do I. so more to come with farmer john we're going to have to do another episode with him to see how things go but in the meantime we are rooting for farmer john and claire you got anything else before we wrap david no i know you're uh you just touched down in Vegas you're going to the AMAs tomorrow um so i am excited to hear a little bit about that action and just with that uh well you know just just just just talk

buddy to buddy yeah that's like it was great i was in i was in l a we did some podcasting actually podcasted and it's going to be an interesting episode with a gentleman who from scratch from nothing became a billionaire off pest control companies pest control there was a knock on your door I pay one so that episode that's crazy I pay everyone does yeah he came door to door he came and it's actually been a great investment see you're going to know all about it's good investment for him his commissions are off the chart so you're going to hear all about that and then had Joey Gracie day's 30th birthday which was fun and now in Vegas for the AMAs out to New York this week and then back to i'll actually see you in rochester uh early next week and then back to

nashville and in most june i will be all in nashville um teddy was uh he's in training and the trainers are keeping him for an extra week or so they're a week week and a half they're about to have a what they're calling is a breakthrough moment with his reactivity so he's doing really well but they're like very close to like really breaking through this reactivity which will put him in such a more peaceful place and that's what it's looking like man can i get amaz will be interesting there's there's predictions and now by the time this comes out well at least for a day uh the amas will have happened it's monday night but there are predictions that taylor swift might be announcing uh her next album oh wow that'd be big guys can i my last question can i get an update

on haircut watch will will you get a haircut by the time i see on saturday or i don't think so no not by then yeah it's gotten out of control I mean it's absolutely they see it playing with it and twirling with it while recording and I'm like it's out of control I gotta do I gotta do something with this I don't know what it's gonna be

but it's long it's out of control I mean maybe you're growing it for some like TV movie role you're just not telling me about and you gotta do like if you had to do like emo like band member who like straightens in gets to the yes and paint your finger

yeah I love it you in well we'll see well this was a great recap we talked to all things life farmer john and what's coming up david thank you for being here with me and thank you guys give us five stars please it means the world thank you for tuning to another episode of training secrets one you can't afford to miss making that money money money playing on me making that money money living that Living the dream