Trading Secrets - 237. Sam Asghari: From moving to America to his evergrowing career successes, the BTS of mastering the hustle, navigating his professional & personal life in the public eye, and being intentional

Episode Date: June 2, 2025

This week, Jason is joined by  one of Hollywood’s most talked about enigmas, Sam Asghari! You may know him as the fitness trainer turned actor, or maybe as the former partner of pop icon Britney Spears, but there’s so much more behind the headlines. From humble beginnings to the bright lights of Los Angeles, Sam carved his lane in modeling, acting, and inspiring millions through fitness. But in 2025, he took a wildly unexpected turn by stepping into the ultimate mind game on The Traitors season three. In a Scottish castle surrounded by lies, alliances, and backstabbing drama, Sam got the full reality TV experience with some of the biggest reality TV stars. Sam joins the show to break down his experience on The Traitors alongside Dylan Efron, including the real story behind their rescue of swimmers in Florida. He shares his journey from Iran to the U.S., his first professional gig, and how he pivoted from playing football to modeling and booking a Super Bowl commercial on his very first audition. Sam opens up about his relationship with Britney Spears, the music video he almost turned down, and sets the record straight on common misconceptions about his career. He reflects on getting fired from his first job, the ambition that’s driven him forward, and the life lessons he learned from his uncle. He also gets candid about navigating contracts like NDAs, prenups, and gag orders, how he approaches relationships with care in the public eye, and what he's discovered about money, happiness, and being intentional with his actions. Plus, he reveals which other reality shows tried to recruit him—and why he said no. Sam reveals all this and so much more in another episode you can’t afford to miss! Host: Jason Tartick Co-Host: David Arduin Audio: John Gurney Guest: Sam Asghari Stay connected with the Trading Secrets Podcast!  Instagram: @tradingsecretspodcast  Youtube: Trading Secrets Facebook: Join the Group All Access: Free 30-Day Trial  Trading Secrets Steals & Deals! This Is Small Business Podcast: If you're plotting your next move — maybe launching that side hustle, scaling a business, or pivoting hard — go check out This Is Small Business hosted by Andrea Marquez. Season 6 is all about entrepreneurs who took massive risks to build something real, and is live right now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify — wherever you listen. Nutrafol: Start your hair growth journey with Nutrafol. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month's subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code TRADINGSECRETS. Northwest Registered Agent: Northwest is your one-stop business solution. Get everything from formation paperwork to custom domains and trademark registration-all in one easy-to-use account. Don't wait, protect your privacy, build your brand and set up your business in just 10 clicks in 10 minutes! Visit www.northwestregisteredagent.com/tradingsecrets and start building something amazing!

Welcome back to another episode of trading secrets. Today we are joined by one of Hollywood's most talked about enigmas, Sam Asgari. You might know him as the fitness trainer turned actor or maybe is the former partner of pop icon Britney Spears, but there's so much more behind the headlines. from humble beginnings to the bright lights of Los Angeles, Sam carved his lane in modeling, acting, and inspiring millions through fitness. But in 2025, he took a wildly unexpected turn, stepping into the ultimate mind game on the Traders' Season 3. And a Scottish castle surrounded by lies, alliances, and backstabbing drama,

Sam got the full reality TV experience with some of the biggest reality TV stars. We'll talk about his unique path to success, the media frenzy of his high-profile relationship and how he is building his brand and business entirely on his own, on the go-forward. Sam, thank you for being on Trading Secrets. Oh, thank you for reminding me for all those things. It's a great intro.

That's right, man. We're going. I mean, you got a wild resume, a wild story, but that's what brings you here today. And I think one of the things we talked about just as like we were kind of getting ready here is Dylan Effron's been on the show on Trading Secrets, but Dylan's also been on traders.

Dylan also is not a reality star. and you two were in the mix on traitors. But weren't you guys in Florida when this whole recent story came out about you guys like saving people that were drowning? Yeah, I mean, it was really fun. You know, I was out there shooting a movie

and Dylan was out there for an appearance and we went to this golf tournament and we got back. And then we were like, oh, let's just go to, you know, South Beach and enjoy the beach. And then we go there. And I just hear like this lady sort of you know yelling out in Spanish and she was waving her arms and I was like wait a minute

like what's happening what's going on here I look around and then I don't see any lifeguards there's no lifeguards I was like Dylan you're a surfer let's go and so they just ran out there him and his buddy a good friend of his they ran out there they dragged two of the ladies out and then it was just like a chaos that was happening that is crazy and there was no lifeguards it was so busy and you know after a few minutes after those ladies were brought out you know the ambulance came the life cars came and things like that but it's just it goes to tell you how important it is to make sure you're watching your kids when you're enjoying the summer yeah because those waves could get you know if you don't know

how to swim and things like that it's just it gets difficult and you know next thing you know you panic and you forget everything you know and you just it was just a scary moment but i'm glad we were there and we were able to be a small part of it and Dylan and his friend just went out there, got them out and they just walked the way after that. And you spotted them though? You're the one who spotted the people that were driving. That's crazy.

Now with you and Dylan, have you become pretty close? And this is after the show, right? Yeah, we're good friends. You know, like I said, we just hang out here and there after the show. The show was during a three-week period in a castle and you don't have your phone so you're forced to hang out with people. and in the castle, I resonated with people that were not a reality, you know, star or things like that. And he's my age.

He likes the same lifestyle as, you know, I do. And we're going to cross paths and we're going to work together in other projects as well. So we just naturally just hang out here and there. It's fun. Yeah, I love it. That is good stuff. Did you know him before Traders or no? I did not know him.

Okay. So you met him just on Traders. Okay. I love it. That's good stuff. You're saving lives and doing all kinds of wild shit in your career path. but let's actually start all the way back when and then we'll get to the good stuff

and come back to traders. But you come to the United States were around 12 years old and then you decide, you play football and you decide that you're going to pursue an acting, modeling, fitness career, right? So what was like your first professional gig that you're like, okay, what I wanted to pursue,

I'm doing here in the States and around how much could you make at that point early on? So, you know, coming to America, this is a thing that I always say just like you or people that were born and raised here sometimes it's very hard to realize

what you have here in America you know we it's not a perfect country I get that we have a lot of issues on daily basis that you know with politics with everything with society but it makes America the country that is that we decide to you know focus on those issues

and we're so open to it and there's freedom of speech. So coming from a country like Iran, I always talk about this was such an eye-opening to be here and have a lot of opportunities. So for me growing up, everything was an opportunity, whether if it was high school football, whether if it was jobs. So at this time, I was working at Goals Gym. And Goals Gym, I was doing, I was selling memberships at Goals Gym. How old you at this point? This is probably right after, a year after. After college. Okay.

Come back from Nebraska and I'm working at Goals Gym as a salesman selling memberships. And during the end of the week, biweekly, I was working at Goals Gym and Best Buy selling computers. Okay. And then during my lunchtime, I was trying to squeeze in spring football practice at Pierce College. So all those things were happening and I was not telling people that I was going to football

practice at my lunchtime. Yeah. And I was coming back like two hours later. I was ditching football practice coming back to work and doing all that stuff. And I got fired from those gem. They told me, you know what? The manager was my friend. He's like, listen, we can't be doing that.

But I'm going to let you go. Then I'll rehire you as a personal trainer every time you want to come back. But do what you got to do. He just saw me hustle and he wasn't really, it wasn't a punishment. It was just like I respect it. But, you know, I got to do what I got to do. I got to let you go. And it was a moment of time where.

there was a confusion of what I'm going to do. Am I going to continue playing football because I got to support myself? I got to pay bills. I got to do this. And then that's when, you know, things were happening and I was transforming myself physically. Yeah. Getting in a better. Because when you play football, you're kind of, you know, you're overweight, you're athletic,

but you don't, you're not like in the best weight possible. I was like 275 to 290. Damn. Yeah. What are you now? I would say under 200. That's crazy. It wasn't a thing for acting or modeling or of anything it was.

But my sister was, you know, doing this fashion show with a local designer in L.A. His name is Michael Costello. And she's like, oh, why don't you just come and maybe you can walk on the show. And at the same time, one of my good friends, a former football player, that was my roommate at the time, his name is Quentin Sails. he was like, why don't you just get some headshots and let me just make a fake email and start managing you.

So, you know, and that's when it really started. You know, I went to downtown LA in this park. I got some headshots that I never used because they were not headshots. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just random pictures. But I did walk the fashion show

and then that's when I realized maybe this is a place for me because I've done theater and drama throughout high school. Okay. alongside football so it was sort of you know it worked perfectly and i was physically transforming so it was my confident level was you know at 1,000 and it was time to go and that's when i started really getting into acting and and what age is this around this is around 21 21 okay and how old

you today i'm 31 okay so in a 10 year span you go from working at gold gym selling memberships potentially playing football, acting, modeling, getting married to Brittany Spears, that not working out, becoming a more well-known actor and reality star and now model. This is all happened in 10 years. That's a wild 10 years. So we're going to dive into it. Before we do, though, I don't want to take it lightly at what you said about the fortunes we have in this country. When you go, like, and we talk, of course, like money on this podcast and opportunity, when you say we need to be a little bit more appreciative of the opportunity that we have here, look at your parents when they lived in iran as a younger child how like as far as like career and

money goes like what type of options are available in iran so how far does money go in iran money goes far away and if you as long as you have it right so but opportunities don't okay the difference is in i wouldn't be able to do the same thing in iran basically if i was there and i wanted to do acting or any any it wouldn't be it's a monopoly system it's it's just hard versus in america you know you could do anything you could do podcasts and you could next thing you know you you have multi-million dollar contract with spotify or you know series exam or iHeart whatever the case is and you could be a plumber and you can have a you know billion dollar business from plumbing those those small things those are not available in other countries not just iran but also in some amazing

Scandinavian countries or European countries. It's just America was described to me as this, you know, token that was kind of like a dream. The American dream, you know, a lot of people say it's dead. I don't think so because as long as you work, it pays back. And it's only proven to me. And it's just something that never fails. So I really appreciate the opportunity to be here, to be able to do that. And there's never a competition.

Like, if you're doing the same thing as me, it could be a healthy competition. It's not like one of us is the only person that's going to succeed. Sure. We can both succeed. Yeah. You know what I mean? So that's what I love about this country. When you say monopoly, are just most businesses run by the government then over there?

You know, I haven't been there in a long time. But the government is very hands-on with everything, especially when it comes to entertainment, sports. I have friends that fled the country because they were so popular as soccer players and they had to leave everything behind just because they opened their mouth against the government because they don't want somebody to become powerful just in case they want to take over whatever the case is. It's sort of a dictatorship and I know many people that went to school to become a doctor and all they have available is to work at Uber.

There's nothing wrong with that but there goes to tell you no matter how hard you work, there is going to be a moment where you might not be able to succeed. Interesting. Okay. I think it's good to like shed some light on that. Yeah, this is just the government, not the people. Right. Just the government, not the people. Okay. All right. So that was 12 years old, you come here. And then we fast forward to 21 years old. So that's around 2015 or so. Just curiosity. When you're working at Gold's Gym, I sell in memberships, how much money can you make in a role like that? You know what? I don't remember, but it wasn't much. It was just paycheck to paycheck and especially me i was working multiple jobs but it wasn't about the money it was

a responsibility because you know i had people that were so close to me that didn't make it to the u.s i wanted to make something out of myself so you know if you're doing 10 things at once one of them is going to hit one of them is going to catch goals gem i would say roughly around two three thousand a month if it was a full-time job and then if you did hit the bonus was 50 membership plus if you signed people up, you would get an extra 500. But I was doing really well at that. And I don't remember what it was, but at Best Buy was also a sales job, which I was also doing really well. And I was number one or two in the country as far as sales a few times back to back. But that's what it was about. It was about working those jobs, taking advantage of whatever there was at that moment and

really just trying my best. Yeah. So what happened in that one year time frame? So 2016, you to be the love interest on Britney Spears' slumber party. And in 2015, you're doing Best Buy and you're working at Gold's Gym. And that one year, what did you do professionally from a modeling and acting career that got you to a point where you're getting called to be Britney Spears' love interest in a music video? That's a big jump in a year. It's a big jump. It's a big jump. But a lot happened in that one year. The second I started focusing on, you know, the entertainment industry, most actors start with commercial. And that's a big jump. And that's what I started. I got a commercial agent and I started auditioning for commercial

commercials that make a lot of money by the way. Give me an example of a commercial. I did. The first audition I ever did I booked was Toyota Prius commercial, but it was a Super Bowl commercial. Dope. Your first one? Was it a Super Bowl commercial? Yeah, first one. And what was your role in the commercial? So I was a gas guzzler. I was just putting in gas and then this car kind of, this Toyota Prius kind of does a little drift and then takes off and then I just react to it. you're auditioning for a role like in a commercial what do they have you do in an audition just like exactly what you're going to do to film so which was you know if you're going to say something about

like if it's a taco bell commercial you just like oh the supreme rap is amazing whatever the case is very exaggerated very commercial but it wasn't long that i decided commercial is cool but i want more out of it okay before we go to wanting more out of it if you do you you If you land the commercial like you did, what is a typical commercial like a Toyota Prius commercial pay? I think that one was between $25 grand to $50,000 after residuals. Dude, that's pretty, I think that's pretty damn good. Because at this point, your notoriety is next to, like, I mean, just let's call a spade of spade. You don't have any fame at this point.

So they're not buying your name, image, and likeness. They're buying your talent. And so you do one shoot one day, $25,000. That's a hell of a lot more than slinging memberships at Gold's Jam. Exactly. And sometimes that's more than TV and film. Wow. So a lot of commercial actors do make a lot of money, you know,

especially if you're like Jake from State Farm. Yeah, oh, he's killing it. But the thing is, if you do commercial, then you're a commercial actor. So how long do you want to stay and doing commercials? Do you want to be taking seriously as a TV and film, theatrical, or whatever the case is? Mine was, I want to go to the next level. Okay.

And next level is what in your mind? TV and film. Okay. And what did that transition look like? That transition was very cool. But in acting, sometimes, you know, it takes a long time because once you get into, you know, getting to know the casting directors or getting to know your agent, first you got to find the agent that works for you. You know, you can go with CIA and that's a big agency, but you can get lost. You can go with a smaller agency that can work very well for you. But then you got to make auditions and then even if you don't get it, they end up liking you and they end up thinking of. of you and they bring you back or you book it and then it's sort of like a relationship that you have to build so it does take a little bit of time and you know during that transitional

period i was still doing some you know i was never going to do modeling because i didn't want to be known as a model okay but i did do sports you know i've done under armor campaigns i did cedar sinai did a whole billboard thing which was i was on the billboard when the rams moved back to L.A. Okay. So, you know, I kind of lived my football dream as well in the acting world. That's what's really cool about acting is because you get to do these things that you might have otherwise not accomplished.

So, you know, during that one year period before that music video, I did, you know, I did a lot. And I also did another music video that was my first opening to the pop culture was Fifth Harmony, which was like this, it was called Work from Home. It was fifth harmony. It was like a bunch of like construction guys. working and that's we did that and that one was pretty cool and it hit social media pretty well as well so it was it was a cool moment but there was a moment of time where it was enough doing music videos as well yeah because i wanted to go to the next level right it's always just wanting to grow

i mean i think that's stay like continue to stay hungry and stay doing what you want to do so you're in commercials you then want to get into acting you then get into music videos within this year time period before you get the big call to go on Bernie Spears's video, a music video. How much you think you're making in this entertainment field, would you say? At the same time, I was training people as well. Okay. So you're hustling. You're doing like six things.

I think that's all, no matter how much the paycheck is going to be, I'm always going to occupy my time because there's a responsibility that I have now. And the responsibility is I have this opportunity. And if I let it go to waste, I'm kind of being ungrateful. Yeah. You know, because I'm not supposed to be here. I'm not supposed to have these opportunities. I'm not supposed to, you know, just, it's not supposed to just happen.

I have to figure out how to deal with the guilt because, you know, at the end of the day, you do become lucky. You do get lucky and you put in the work, obviously. But if those things go together, then miracles happen. So there's a guilt that I have to feel with, which, you know, I have cousins that were close to me. from Iran that never made it here and their lives are completely different and they had a lot more potential than I did. Wow. You know, so within that, there's always going to be that hustle and that fire. Yeah. And that's what it was. I mean, I was, you know, I was still training clients in the morning and that was the best, it was my waiter job. A lot of actors have waiter jobs. Yeah.

And I was, you know, getting up in the morning from 6 a.m. to 12 in the afternoon. I was knocking out five, six clients a day, having a full-time training job, then going into acting classes and training myself, whatever the case was done, training, and doing all that stuff, just in case I book something. So I'm ready for it. And so just based on what you're saying with the commercial 25, you're probably making just over a hundred grand or so

grinding all these jobs at 21? Probably, yeah. Okay. And when you are, your goal is to go from commercial acting to then get into acting, before the music video, did you land an acting role? yeah i mean i've i've had i done a couple tv shows i did music videos i i was doing really well with you know print jobs as well yeah but wait what you call them what you go print jobs

what's a print job print is if you book something that's that goes into print like a modeling job you know i was signed to well amina which was a really high modeling agency and i was getting a lot of offers from give me an example of a print job like going to vogue or something no that's that's That's more, you know, magazines. That's press. That's, we're not talking about that. Let's say Under Armour. Under Armour wanted to, you know, release this winter collection.

And that was a print's job. So that was, you know, that was like a modeling campaign. But it was on the sports side, which was, you know, aligned with my future and what I wanted to do. Sure. And it paid well. I mean, decent. Like, like $10?000. I don't have, I think I would say something like that.

I don't remember exactly. Yeah, but around that. You know. But you end up. paying, you know, your agents and your managers, which is really good. I want them to make millions of dollars because that means I'm going to make a lot more money. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. That's right. They keep making money. You get more deals. Yeah. Exactly. So it was, it was between that, but it was never about the money. Yeah. It was more about the resume and how I can go to the

next level and how I could book, you know, or at least make an impression on a person that's booking so they can bring me in later. Pretty cool. Yeah. All right. So then I got, I mean, For everyone listening to this, Sam, you have a very, very humble down-to-earth energy about you, so I feel comfortable saying this. I know this is your ex-wife, but when I was in fifth grade, like, Britney Spears was like, that was my crush. I had my first CD cover, and it's Britney Spears. And I mean, then you get a call to be her love interest in the spirit of just like transparency, we're like, holy shit. Like I am like, I'm taking on, I went from doing a Toyota Prius commercial from working at a gym, not normal women do. And now I'm getting called to do Britney Spears music video.

as her love interest like that had to be a pinch me moment yeah definitely it was i mean i wasn't i wasn't my sisters and people that grew up in that in that moment of time where she was at her peak yeah you know they were definitely fans and i think one of my cousins even had like a poster of her yeah and but i wasn't too familiar with the music myself interesting you know i as a as a as a little young boy you know you're not going to grow up listening to pop culture music or get into that but it was really cool you know it was it was a good moment but there was a moment between the conversation between me and my agent and my mentor if i was going to do a music video or not because at the time they had asked me if i want to do a music video for a list pop star okay

they didn't disclose it oh interesting it was sort of like you know hush hush about it and i said you know what i've done my music video and we would like to focus on tv and film if that's the case you know because music videos don't pay much and what is the music like on average like what's maybe it's sag minimum so it's that you know i don't know what the numbers are but but maybe a thousand two thousand dollars okay okay got nothing crazy but it wasn't about the money it was about the vision and you know if you look the way i i do and you're a personal trainer and then you end up taking on cheesy projects then you might be you know diminishing your brand right yeah so that that was the case we were trying to roughen me up you know go on the gritty side and and do tv and film

and get away from the modeling stuff so the whole the whole focus was on that and then my friend my mentor his name is maxi that does makeup and hair been in the industry for a very long time said oh i'm actually working on the music video you should do it just for fun why not so that's when i got into the music video and it was fun it was you still until the day you showed up for the music video you didn't know who the pop star was going to be no i obviously when i found the name i knew who she was but i didn't you know i wasn't too familiar with her career or her music or anything like that just because it wasn't cool to you know listen to that type of stuff as a as a young man grown up for whatever reason yeah for sure that's that's what's a wild move and when you when you cast for a role like that

did you know it was going to be to be her love interest or do you just know that it's going to be a role of some sort it was like the opposite lead or love interest or whatever they called it they just never disclosed who the person was going to be. Yeah. Okay. Interesting. Okay. So you do that shoot. It goes well. The story's all online. You give her your number. You go back to work. You guys don't really connect for a little while. Yeah. I just go back to real life. You know, one thing about me is I get thrilled, but I like to be as professional as possible. So, you know, whatever happens, I'm excited. But also, I had to build this mentality in sports and in entertainment is you do your best job as

you can do and then you got to leave it yeah exactly you can't think about it you can oh i could that's going to you know hurt you because obviously you you know you look in the mirror you don't think of yourself as something but other people think of you you know that mentality i built was you know walking away from that music video it was really cool great opportunity whatever happens happen okay and so then you go back and now you're going full speed into acting and in this time period between Brittany reaching back out to you and you pursuing your career full force. Was there any moment professionally or big opportunity you got within that five months or six months that you're like, I won't forget that one. It was a good one. Yeah. I mean, there's a few

things that happened financially. I think one of the best things that happened was throughout my connections I've made and the social media that I've made. Putting out inspirational videos for fitness. There was a supplement company that sponsored me for like, it was like a year contract, which was a really good amount of money. And at that time, and I was really grateful for that because it was going to only help my dreams come true. And I didn't have to work hourly to make money like that. So it was my first time that I used my social media

and used the platform to do something that was natural. You know, I've had offers at that time where it was like, oh, post this thing. But it was like, okay, it's not very natural. It's not something you're using or doing it. Yeah. And I'm not on. influencer but if it's something that I'm already doing and you're not asking me to post a product

you're asking me to post about me yeah and then you want to just sponsor me that was it was a really cool moment to you know have that opportunity to work with those people was the company called first form and they're out in missouri yeah and you know they they do a good job and my brand aligned with their brand and at that time was quite a lifesaver for me yeah because you know I was going through all this stuff and then now you know I'm dating somebody and you know dating is yeah cost money and you have to of course you have to look your best you have to buy outfits yeah so it was it was a good good good moment to for that opportunity to come that's really cool all right so one article I read is in people and I think they had said that maybe you admitted that you know you guys

being married might have kick started your acting career but I want to take a different approach to it because people always look at one side. I want to take the other approach of it. So you're independently successful. You're a hustler. You're working your ass off, six different jobs, commercials, music videos, acting classes, acting. You're becoming a fitness instructor, fitness influencers. So you're doing these things that are building your brand. And when you date someone, start dating someone that has that type of celebrity, I'm sure it helps. In this article it says it helps. But I also have to imagine there are certain restrictions to what you can do and when you can do it, just because if you can't make a

mistake, that might impact her. So was there any, from a career perspective, anything you had to kind of adjust or take maybe different directions because, right? I think people only look at, oh, it might have propelled, but also it might have put you in a position where you had to adjust things too, because you're worried about the impact it could have on a massive personality. Absolutely. I mean, you know, I think I'm always.

going to be grateful for the platform that that relationship gave me naturally and it works naturally i mean there's a lot of people in the industry that have you know that relationship where you know it helps your career or it doesn't hurt you can't say oh it didn't hurt but i was already working very hard i was already you know acting and doing all that stuff by the nature and by my traits and my qualities no matter what I think I would have been successful yeah but you do have to you know be careful because one with her situation and her under conservatorship and that was one thing and number two is I'm also representing somebody sure so it was I have to show the best version and then back to I don't want to be associated with cheesy stuff with not that commercial

is cheesy that even gets harder yeah so there's more that I have to reject and more things that I have to kind of be selective and go into that. Because now I'm not, you know, this, you know, ripped trainer guy. Yeah. That's doing cheesy stuff and then dating a pop star. So all this stuff is, you know, so, you know, out of touch for things. And I like to be right there with people. My, you know, my whole thing is to be down to earth, to be, you know, I'm always going to be that.

Yeah. And that's just, it makes it a little. little bit harder for me to reach what I wanted to reach. But at the same time, you know, as far as putting you on a platform and putting you out there to the world, it helps. But also it was a moment to be selective and be the best representative. You got eyes on you. You have to, you know, be respectful and things like that, which was very easy for me because I was planning on doing that throughout my life anyway. Yeah, exactly. I mean, with a relationship like that and then adjusting things professionally, I think there becomes a lot of praise. And I think you also experience a lot of

mislabeling and mischaracterization of like, you know, you're there to like get the bump or benefit from her career. So I'm curious, that's a lot. I mean, in her fan base is so strong. That's a lot of noise to hear at a very young age. And I think everyone listening to this in some capacity in their world has to hear some form of noise, criticism, especially in social media, at some level. You heard it at like one of the biggest levels of human will ever hear it at. How did you deal with it? How did you interpret it? And what tips do you have for people back home that are maybe being mislabeled or mischaracterized

and having to deal with like the pressures of all the noise? That's a good question. I don't know how I dealt with that. You're like, I'm a strong motherfucker. It's not about being strong. It's not about, you know, having this numbness to the world. It's about doing the right thing and no matter what the noise is. is and eventually, you know, not the truth will come out, but eventually it's just, you know,

it's undeniable that you are a good person, you are putting the work, and then you are supposed to be reaching the same level as some other people are just because you're putting the work. So for me, you know, I always had confident in myself. I always knew that I was going to reach, you know, a certain level because I was never satisfied with what it was given to me because there was a response. Like we talked about earlier and then I'm here. You know, I better take advantage of the opportunities that is being presented to me. But at the same time, you know, growing up with three sisters and being a guest to this country, my uncle always told me you're a guest to this country. No matter if you're a citizen and this is your country now, you're a guest. So you're not doing anything wrong. You're not going to fuck over anybody. You're not going to do anything. So I always had that mentality, you know, and I think in order to build an empire you need a team anyway so why would you ever you know fuck over somebody just for your own your own benefits so I think if you are that and that is true no

matter what happens it's just uneniable yeah I mean it makes perfect sense one thing I know you've talked about on other podcasts we've talked about it at length on this podcast with all different types of personalities from you know as we've had divorced attorneys on we've had billionaires on sharks from shark tank real housewives in New York that have been divorced and gone through And we talk a lot about contracts. And you've talked about seeing NDAs and gag orders. And I'm curious your take now on some of these contracts and how they integrate the personal aspect, but the professional aspect with things like NDAs, pre-numps, post-numps, gag orders. Like, what is your relationship with these contracts now, knowing that you've also been part of them and lived in them?

I mean, you know, I just did audition for a project. They had to sign the NDA just to see the information on. So people have to protect their information and there's art involved and things that could be stolen or information that could be, you know, affected. I'm all for it. Why not? You have to be respectful of those information. But for me, my morals and my upbringing is that if there was no NDA or those type of things, I would have dealt with it the same way. It doesn't matter.

So it's just those contracts are amazing. amazing and great. But, you know, my word is just as good as those contracts, if not even better, because at least I understand my words. I'm not just signing a piece of paper that was most likely done by ChatGBT, GBT, nowadays. But, you know, it's just that's, those are great. Whatever you have to do to protect yourself pre-n-up or anything like that. Like, my relationship with my ex-wife was that I wanted her to have a pre-nup. I wanted to make sure she's protected because throughout her life, everybody, I don't know, one person that's ever been in her life that didn't take an advantage of. That's sad.

You know, so it's very sad. So I wanted to make sure I'm the person that don't do that. And how, I don't know, I'm getting like just hearing this. I'm getting a little like frustrated in your defense because you're the one person going in there with character saying, I don't need an NDA. I will still sign the NDA, but I conduct myself in my business under an NDA, whether I signed it or not. you're the one person that's probably like you said not taking advantage of her and and then you're getting I feel like labeled as someone that might have been and how frustrating that is but I love what you said about like kind of the truth always surfaces like character always prevails and like if they don't see it today they'll see it tomorrow what do you think is the number one thing that people got wrong about your relationship with her what would you say the number one thing the number one misconception you know I think it's I never get mad at the general public or, you know, fans or people that are seeing your life from a distance, especially now that I'm, you know, not in a relationship for over two years.

Yeah. Or a year and something, you know, looking from the outside perspective, I see, you know, there's an age difference, there's a fame difference, there's this, there's that. But realistically, we met as co-stars. I was working, you know, alongside her. Sure. And that happens in the acting world. because everybody's busy and, you know, you're working on set and you're spending a lot of time, sometimes more time than your own family.

So it's just natural how that works, just like it is in the office. If you're working in an office, you meet a co-worker. So it is, but also no matter what, there's always going to be people that have their own opinions. And, you know, I respect that. But the only thing that really matters to me is what I think of myself. Yeah. And, you know, if I don't lie to someone or if I'm late, that's all for my confidence. You know, if I show up late to this podcast, that's on me.

Yeah. It's disrespectful to you. It's disrespectful to everybody that's involved, you know, in the function. But my respect for myself is I'm going to make sure I'm early. I'm going to make sure, you know, I present myself a certain way. It's all for me. Yeah. So it's not really focused on, you know, the fans or whoever.

it's always going to be you know for me my career is always going to be i'm always going to do things that's going to benefit the fans and people that are watching me and i want to be a good example but at the same time is because that makes me feel better yeah i think that makes a lot of sense what's cool about this podcast is we get to talk financial elements personal elements and then professional and the thing is if you look at those in silos you're looking at life in the wrong way because they all bleed together they all impact it and a general question i usually talk to people too is about like especially in this world where so many people both parties in relationships right now everyone's working full speed trying to build their brand or their business

or their impact or their non-for-profit whatever it is and there's always an interesting element of professional support from relationship to relationship and how they're navigating that as much as you felt like maybe you were supporting all the success what was that did you feel that's reciprocated and what is your take on like just supporting someone and seeing both sides of it in a relationship, professionally, not just personally, but the profession. I think it's important to, you know, built an empire together. Yeah.

So that's number one thing that you want to look into a partner. 100%. Built an empire together. 100%. But, you know, when it gets really difficult when you arrive and then the other person already has an empire. Yeah. And other people are benefiting from it.

So it was a standpoint where that didn't matter at the time. It was more of supporting. you know her to get to a place where she wants to be yeah or at least you know getting the people that are not supposed to be there to not be there it was very difficult situation for me personally but i think the number one most important thing in relationships are that you're supposed to look in for somebody that you want to build an empire with 100% and you do that and that way you don't have to worry about pre-nup or anything like that it's like my thing is if i you know do ever do a pre-n-up would be you either get everything

or nothing. So you know what I mean? You know what that means? Yeah. So basically you either have it all because this is all for you, we're building it for you or nothing. It's not like we're not going to think about half.

Interesting take on a preem. So, you know, I think when you do get married, it's for the rest of your life, but you know, shit happens. My dad was divorced a couple of times. My friend's dad was, it's very common. and life is hard and it's just you can't really dwell on the past and things that didn't happen or things that did happen or wish for something better you just have to appreciate it

and celebrate the moment that you spend the experiences that you had it was a big part of my life and we're just going to leave it as that and we're always going to be you know grateful for the experience grateful for the experience continue to grow and continue to move on perfectly said one like this is a question that has nothing to do with the podcast but I was just curious you've been on reality TV now you've been on unscripted and as a guy who's been on reality TV and has a lot of friends in reality TV I was just curious I'm like I wonder if you and Brittany watch reality TV together did you ever watch reality TV? No we never watched reality TV. This was your this was your first go first watch first everything okay we're very comfortable entertaining but no reality TV no okay I never watched it previously before traders so this was your this was your first go first watch first everything okay we're We're going to get to traders in a second. I do want to talk as we're going through chronological order. Through 2016, we now have a good idea of, like, mentally where you're at, things you're working on. 2016 to 2023 is when, of course, you're in the relationship.

Talk to me about your career then. Like, what are some things for you personally that, like, you're super proud of or, like, your marquee moments in that time period for, like, what you're trying to do with your profession? You know, during that time, you know, it was very difficult to do certain things because I had to be selective, you know, so I couldn't do. like what's one thing you had to turn down i you know i turned down a few modeling things back then it was because it was associated with women and i wanted to be got it i wanted to be respectful yeah it was very sensitive time and a very sensitive situation i was dealing with so i wanted to be very successful and things like that so that was at that time yeah now it's a of course different yeah different circumstances yeah so there was a few things that

things I had to turn down and obviously things that ever involved her, a lot of, you know, amazing. We're talking about like, you know, show up to this event and bring your ex-wife and we give you half a million dollars each and things like that and cars and, you know, like Bentley and a G-wagon and things like that and just show up or like convince her to come. But that's not me, you know, I'm not even going to bring it up. I'm not even going to, you know, just that wasn't going to. be a thing for me you know mine was just to support and hopefully when we get to a place where we

can do that that would be smart to build an empire together sure but at that moment of time it wasn't and that's things that people have done in her past and i wasn't going to add you know fire a fuel to the fire yeah so your thought was professionally i'm not going to take anything or do anything that involves brittany and then additionally things that are going to just involve me I'm going to be very selective to make sure it doesn't negatively impact. You know what? It was, you know, it's only normal. There's couples all the time that are collaborate, you know, partner.

Oh, yeah, all over. Yeah, all over the places. You know, it's smart to do in the entertainment industry. But my situation was very sensitive. And I wasn't going to be the person that was going to bring that up at all. Yeah. So I never, you know, I rejected all those things. And I was very, you know, protective over that.

whole situation so but but as far as career goes you know throughout those years i did a really good job establishing relationships with casting directors i did a really good stuff with comedy i did a show called black monday okay have you know it's about you know black monday and how the stock market crashes oh shit i got finance guys how did i not see that okay it's the funniest show you know i played john carlo stripper male stripper in that show okay but it was was fun. You know, I made some good friends there and then I did hacks, which was really cool. You know, and then I started figuring that comedy was one of the things that I do really well with. And that's actually a hard genre in TV and film because you can't be funny. You have to have a

comedic, you know, somebody can't teach you to be funny. No, no. You just have to have the comedic timing down and it's a good thing. And people get you respect for that. So, you know, I started doing all these cool things and still pushing and being inspirational and helping people on social media and making, you know, deal brands there. So I was making a good amount of money at that moment of time. Yeah, that's awesome. I love it. Now, one thing I wonder about is the acting career is taken off, TV and film is taken off, you're being selective, and then things turn and you get divorced. And so, of course, you know, I can't even imagine the day you get divorced, how long that window was of headlines, paparazzi, noise, and comments,

how long from the day you file to the day it's actually closed, are you dealing with scrutiny in the public and noise? Not too long. And again, it wasn't my take is the public is going to do their thing. So there's no point of dealing with that at all. Because if you haven't done anything wrong, if you're not up to anything wrong, then you don't have to worry about that.

So for me, it's very easy because I never go down that road. So I don't have to deal with that. But you don't worry about it. Even though the mist, when people say stuff that aren't true, that doesn't buy you're just like, it's not true, you don't care.

You're like not faze by it. You know, you're a human. So it hurts your feelings. I can't sit here and say, oh, I don't care about certain comments or things like that. I just know it's not true. You know what I mean?

So if somebody tells you, you something and then you're like oh whatever you know what i mean so it's it's it's unfortunate you think that way but it's not true did it's like that yeah did the did the going through the divorce did that have any impact on your career your professional ability or your castings did things like start to evaporate a little bit not at all interesting were you worried they might no i wasn't because during you know as as wonderful as that relationship ever was and, you know, as grateful I am for the experience and everything that happened in my life. I think being, you know, sometimes being single and having that moment with

yourself, you're able to focus on your career more. Yeah. And when it comes to success in America, I think the number one factor is that you have to work and you have to put in the time and you have, there's a lot of competition. You have to put it. So I think during that, time i had a motivation to only focus on myself and this past few months or even a year i've done more work than i ever have in my career wow and that's not saying you know now that i'm divorced and now it was because i'm not saying that at all yeah it's actually you know i've been working a very long time to get to this level and hopefully have a chance to go to the next level but it doesn't her to put you know dedicate all your time into your career and unfortunately or fortunately when you do

have a family when you know you are with somebody you do have to go on dates you do have to spend a lot of time together you do have to focus and that that's time away from your career and your business yeah things like that and sometimes it's not healthy to pick and choose you have to have a balanced life yeah but sometimes that's what it takes to get to the next level so i think I wasn't worried that things were going to go down or I was going to lose the opportunities. If I was going to lose friends and opportunities for that, then I'm just going to let that go because I don't need it anyway. Yeah, interesting. A very, very mature perspective.

I want to jump to 2024. Before I do, because we're in a financial podcast, I got to at least ask. Yes. And I don't know what you can and can't speak to. So if you can't speak to it, just because I can't speak to it, man. But with the conservatorship and some of the things that you saw of people taking financial advantage of her. what are some things that like you learned as it relates to financial abuse because everything that at least we see from the outside it looks like it's like literally the definition of financial abuse I don't know exactly where the financial abuse was but I learned that too much money is never good and I learned that money too much money that doesn't you know make sense like for example you know if you

do something and then randomly you get a big paycheck or something like that it's it's very difficult it's very difficult and what that opens is that you know if you were working since you were eight years old and you're making millions and millions of dollars everybody especially the people that are close to you they're going to want a piece you know that story is different with me because I'm a grown-ass man yeah and if I have you know if I start making a lot of money and then people around me they come up to me and say wait a minute can i borrow this or they try to take advantage of me i'm going to know right away but if you're a childhood star you know you've been working for a very long time you don't even know who's been taking advantage of you wow you know what i mean so that's what that

that's just you know looking from the outside you don't even have to be me yeah looking at it is great but what i learned about money is that if you do make a lot of it it doesn't bring happiness it brings happiness when you give it away interesting you know what i mean so when you not necessarily donate you don't have to give all of it away but the whole point of being famous yeah the whole point of you know having a platform is that i think of it as the universe is giving you an opportunity to make this world a better place you know and you don't have to donate to a charity but if you have some sort of a establishment or a business you're you know you're feeding families they're working for you you know that you're creating jobs you're putting their kids to school so you're you are making this

world a better place so if you have that then that's happiness i think hmm that's it's it's so interesting like your story coming like being an immigrant to united states because you're so capped on what opportunity you can have and then you come here and it's the land of opportunity it's the dream to make it big and and to earn wealth and build wealth and that's you go into a scenario and in life in which you're seeing like all the toxicity and how human behaviors could change because of money and how the land of opportunity, if you are given too much opportunity as certain age, actually could turn extremely toxic unless you're taking that opportunity to create a greater impact. Who in the world gets that perspective and then

gets to speak and educate people on relationship with money? And it's really interesting to hear you say like I'm telling you I've seen it with my own eyes money doesn't buy happiness yeah money doesn't buy happiness and this is coming from someone that didn't have a lot of money growing up and you know up until this day I would like to have more money but I know that if I have a paycheck it happens all the time then if I go buy something what is that going to mean to me yeah yeah you know there's been moments I do good things but I never speak about it and I'm a big believer that we live in a universe whether you know if you want to believe in jesus moham abraham whoever you want to believe in whatever religion that you want to believe in there's a higher power and i think

you know if you kind of put that energy out there you kind of receive it back that's the only thing that's been proven to me and it has only happened is when i've done nice things for people financially and then right away i didn't even think about it and right away i would get something something out of it's just incredible with how that works but i'm not saying it that's the reason why you should do it it's just that it truly brings in happiness when you help somebody it doesn't have to be financially and you know financially is what people struggle with the most and that's the best help you can do but just by helping someone it you know the the the universe or whatever the case is is going to give back at you it's a great trading secret right there be careful what you put

out because it does come back to get you for the good or for the bad, I think. Right. So we're here at 2024. You have a wild, wild ups down, lefts and rights. You're now a single man. And Hulu, Disney, ABC comes knocking on your door for traitors. So has there ever been, and by the way, we've talked about in the show before with actors and stuff that come on, going from unscripted to scripted is really hard. But a lot of people will say going scripted to unscripted could be career suicide. Yes. And so my question to is before you even accepted traders, which ended up becoming an absolute phenomenon. Most watched reality show in the last year just crushed it. Were you approached to be on reality TV and did you decline it for that reason at all?

It's been a, you know, at that point it was about five years or so that I was approached to be on reality. I think ever since. Oh, so you've been approached often. Yeah. Yeah. Dancing with the stars and all that. But, you know, then again, you have to be smart. I don't. You don't care about what people say, you know, you have to be smart dancing with the stars. People vote, right? Yeah. And also, you got to dance. I can't really dance. You know, so at that moment of time, it was a no.

Now it might be different. Were you married at that time? I was married at the time and I was on, you know, it's been like. So you've been asked a couple times. Yeah. A couple of times. Yeah. And Traders was, I think this was the second time the conversation happened.

And because it's a tough, you know, you don't want to go there, but you also want to go there. Traders is amazing TV that's not really, you know, gossipy, not really reality stuff. You know, so, you know, are people going to ask about your past life? Are they going to make you the antagonist? Are you going to be the bad person? I brainstorm with a friend of mine that's my mentor that's been in reality. So if I was going to do it, it was going to do it was going to. going to be i'm going to go out there have some fun and be myself that's all i could do and hopefully

hopefully i don't you know i i don't become the bad guy whatever the case is so it was at that moment of time it made sense okay at that moment of time it made sense and you know i had a few months off off of acting stuff and i figured let's go to scotland and shoot this this show yeah and Alan Cumming is hosting it, they shoot it like a, some sort of a scripted TV. And it's, you know, it's quite different. It's not the same. There's no gossip. There's just playing the game.

And it's really cool. And a lot of people watch it. So that was the decision. When you think about that career decision for where you want to be, hindsight, would you have done it again or no? I would have done it again. I think it was, I wouldn't have to do it again because now the timing might not work. But at that moment of time, and the way it went down and how the game was played and how I was shown and how I handled it, it went really perfect.

And after that, the opportunities of scripted, not because of that, not because of the traders. But, you know, just the way my life is going now, it made sense. I like it. Okay. We're talking business here. You're the boss. You're the CEO. I'm going to do a little higher fire game.

You look at the cast of traders. You start a business tomorrow. there's one person in that entire cast you got to hire for your business one person you're like nope they're not coming on my business who you're going to hire and who you're going to fire i think i would hire boston rob and then i would fire tom okay all right there you go interesting you're like shocker shocker here we go fire tom tom gets fired again all right i also want you to do this exercise you're now you're going back into scripted full speed right okay jim carrie 1990 he had a check in his pocket it was a blank check he wrote it out for 10 million dollars and he said in five years I'm going to make this in acting. It was year four and a half. He kept it every single day. The thing got to shoveled that year four and a half. He got paid over $10 million for dumb and dumber. You're an actor. You're thinking like Jim Carrey. Right now you got a check. You think about your career. What's the amount that you want to write on that check that you're going to make in acting in the next, let's say the

next 10 years. Next 10 years, we'll go with 60 million. 60 million bucks. And in the next 10 years, how do you get to 60 million in TV and film? What does it look like? It looks like miracle. miracles have to happen miracles have to happen no I think right now when Jim Carrey did it was much harder but right now there's it's a different world and people are making

a lot more money you know you're looking like Kevin Hart the rock they're crossing paths they're creating things they're doing this they're doing that now you have opportunities like TV and then you can do film at the time you have to be more selective so God knows you know maybe I go into production which I already have a

producing partner and a production called PBNJ productions and we have a TV series so one of those gets sold that's 60 million dollars with me i don't know what there you go but it's not for the money yeah yeah yeah it's not all right well when you give that 60 million you're going to come back you're going to talk about it i mean we you have hit every single career spectrum and entertainment it feels like modeling music videos acting unscripted you've done it all you just said the rock maybe the only thing you haven't done is wwee you got the body you got to look for it would you ever going to something like WW. There's been talks, you know.

I feel like you'd kill it. I think it would be great, man. I love WWE. I think it's incredible. Yeah. And they make good actors. I work with John Cena. Yeah.

And we had a fight scene where I, you know, had a taste of the WWE on the movie. That's pretty sick. And, you know, I met the Nikki. Nick Bellet. Yeah, she's great. And she's amazing. I think that takes incredible talent. I don't mind getting into that for a little bit.

if the time goes right. So, yeah, it would be great. All right, maybe that'll happen. But right now, the focus is casting TV film. That's the main focus. That's the main focus, yeah. All right, cool. Good stuff.

Well, Sam, I appreciate you coming on trading secrets. It's been such an interesting career path. Your perspective on relationships and money and just toxicity but healthy behaviors with money, I think is so unique given your experiences. And I think it's going to be so refreshing for everyone to hear. So I appreciate you coming on. But we got to wrap with the trading secrets. So it's something.

you can't learn from a master class, a professor or TikTok tutorial, only from your experience. It can be financial trading secret, life trading secret, a quote you live by. But there's only one trading secret that can come from you to Sam. So what can you leave us with? Mine is when it's low, you buy. Okay. And when it's high, you figure out where it is to sell. Yeah.

Because eventually it's going to come down and then you buy more. I like that. I wish I did that with crypto, what is it, a month ago, two months ago, and then I would have bought it again. but you have to be disciplined and you have to set a plan and you have to follow it. And then invest in long term, you know, S&P 500 and all those things. All right. There you go.

We got a finance guy here too. Buy low, sell high, S&P 500. I always like at the end of the episode for me to say what I learned from you, like my secret. I think the secret I learned from you, Sam, is that like let character prevail at all times. Regardless of what noise is out there, you determine who you are and no one else determines who you are. And even when it might feel like the heaviest, when you continue to be you and be the best version of you, people will see that. But it also doesn't matter if people see it because you know it. And it feels like that has been something like your foundation has been you at the core.

And through it all, it's led you to continue to succeed through all different adversity, successes and failures. And I think that's pretty badass. So congratulations on everything. We're going to watch and make 60 million when you do. You're coming back to trade the secrets. And before we wrap, where can everyone find everything you have going on? Social, I post, you know, everything that I do on social media and then sometimes on the press does speak for themselves.

Yeah, yeah. Ignore the press, follow them on social media. That's the answer. And we'll be back to get and see when that $60 million comes in. Sam, thank you for being on training secrets. Thank you, man. I appreciate it. Ding, ding! We are closing the bell to the Sam Escari episode in a very interesting format right here.

I am sitting in the theater room of the one and only David Ardwin's house in Rochester, New York. We are sharing one mic, and we are sitting side by side, butt by butt, toe by toe by toe in your theater room, sharing this mic back and forth. David, obviously, there's a lot to cover in this recap, but first and foremost, Sam Ascaria. What I'm curious is I love when you always have a take of your predisposition of someone before they come on. the show and then you listen to the podcast, your after disposition. I have an inclinning that like you would have an interesting take on the before and after here. So David, first of all, good to be side by side with you. And secondly, what'd you think of the Sam Ascari episode? Yeah, you know, you can always count on me for a take. And I think I was pretty vocal in our,

not even in our pre-show, but in our pre-strategy meetings of who we're going to get on the podcast. I was not a fan of bringing Sam on because, you know, I maybe have fallen for some of the narratives or some of the things of people who are quick to defend Brittany and think that, you know, maybe he was, you know, trying to take advantage of her situation. For those, I think I've said on this podcast before, I had a grade seven art project

and it was I love Britney Spears collage. I got a five out of ten on it. I'm still very, very, very depressed about it. But I lumped him in that category if he was coming at our, girl brittany but man i love getting humbled i love getting a nice piece of humble pie because that guy's story kind of his perspective what he's been through the the kind of fast lane that he was thrown into the fire of being in such a the most high profile with a relationship with the

most one of the most high profile celebrities of all time uh what uh incredible um you know journey that he's been on a perspective that he has and you know, it was just incredible. And I think to your point, just the way that he was able to take the high road with all like the mislabeling, with all what I'm going to say is lies, with all the things

that you had been under the impression that were the case, someone that was strictly using someone, but his composure in this episode, we would talk about like, listen, I just know the truth always services. I know my character. No one can take that away from me. And no matter what people say or how they say it you can't rewrite history because there is no history to showcase

with brittany and i other than it didn't work out and she's awesome and onward remark and so i don't know i was just like very refreshed by his disposition uh the things he said what he did it was crazy too as you think about gold gym like imagine your slinging memberships at gold gym and then you're asked to be brittany spears lover and this time at the time he's asked like brittney spears is the biggest person like in the world like what a 180 i wonder if you were to ask him with some truth here and um if he wishes that he would have could have if he could go back to that life of selling memberships gold's gym and never kind of step foot into the world he stepped foot into would he have done that because and i say that in the sense of he's just been exposed to so many things he talks about nDAs you

can't imagine all the things that like you just mentioned he can't speak of and just hopes and knows that the truth will come to the surface. And now he's having to be in a situation to protect his character from random strangers like me until they come on the podcast and explain it. I just wonder when you have that level of perspective if you just wish things would have gone back to normal. And like you said, you know, money does not solve the happiness

and you see it with, you know, Justin Bieber and you see it with other celebrities where, you know, the people that we think have it all, sometimes all they want is to have it all go away. And it was interesting, and I know, like, I feel like even with that comment, what you're alluding to is exactly where I was going next, which is it was interesting to see him talk about all the opportunities that he passed up on while he was with Brittany because he wanted to, I guess, I guess just be cognizant of that. And I guess that's probably one of the things you don't think about. I think he's very, very aware that there were opportunities that were led because he was with Britney Spears. I also think he's aware in the fact that he was so, at least from what he had vocalized us,

he was so hyper cognizant of, I can't ruin her reputation, I can't take things because I'm with her. I'm going to say no to certain things to be, to just be sensitive to that, at least like that was very, very vocal in his messaging. And even when he referenced like the, you know, the few hundred thousand dollars to just show up somewhere and get a big luxury car and he's like, no that's i'm not going to partake in that what a what it's just a wild wild world and yeah you think about it's interesting to also see like what some of these celebrities go through and like a brittany spears like how what is sad like it's so sad to see like what like when you look at brittany and her prime and like everything that she was like just like her her media training and like

everything she had and like what's happened since then it's so sad and i feel like i don't know what's going on with Justin Bieber right now, but when you see the clips on TikTok, it feels like he's going through a lot too. Like there are so many things that is viewers and fans, we can't understand being in their shoes, but like the detriment to their mental health in connection to what Sam's talking about with just like money doesn't buy happiness, it's so real. Yeah, it is so real. And you think of all the people we've had on the podcast before.

I don't know. all of them, since they're on the podcast, they're obviously successful or they've gotten themselves into a new venture and they've obviously changed their lifestyle as they quote a quote once knew it. I think it's fair to say that nobody's lifestyle had changed as much in short time as Sam did from the Gold's Gym to all of a sudden being in a relationship with the most popular. I would honestly say she's probably, if not the, she's top three most popular celebrities in our lifetime in the last 50 years so it was just great to get his perspective seems like a super knowledgeable guy and like I said at the end of the day I'd never say

this very very well-likable guy yeah it's like don't don't I guess don't judge a book by its cover right the old adage don't judge a book by its cover I think something else like we have to at least speak to because I know there's a lot of action in this episode um but just a lot of action going on in life right now. We're obviously here for a reason in Rochester. I mean, there's just a lot happening. We are celebrating one of our very close family, friends and father of our best friends life here in Rochester. And it is interesting, you know, aside from this episode, it's so good to be back and see the people we're seeing. It's so sad. It's under these circumstances. And even in like, I don't know, maybe a weird connection to this podcast, like, all, it, like, nothing really matters, anything in life other than the people you love and care about, like, truly nothing.

Like, yeah, it's, it's very well said. And, you know, there's the, the best conversations are always the hardest conversations. when you kind of strip away the layers and you're surrounded by best friends and family members and, you know, celebrating the life of one who left us too soon is why you're here and what we're doing, what we have been doing this weekend and what we will continue to do Monday and Tuesday. And, you know, a lot of reflection goes on with that internally and in your support for your absolute best friend. And I will just say, like, if you're listening to this, take every opportunity you can to tell your parents that you love them,

to tell people that, you know, you know you should be reaching out to. Don't waste the opportunity. Don't make an excuse. Don't feel like, you know, it's lame to pick up the phone and just say, tell someone that they love them or you're thinking about them. You know, it's something that we all need to do. as many times as we can because like you say when you strip it all away at the end of the day that's all you have yeah and i mean even when we were perfectly said perfectly said like if i think one of the

big things you just said too is like some of the hardest conversations in life are the most meaningful and like those are the ones that make the most impact and if there is anything like if you're avoidant with your feelings or whatever it might be if there's something holding you back from like having those hard conversations or just having a conversation we're expressing you're loving gratitude for someone. I would urge you right now, stop what you're doing. Call the people you love. Send them an audio note.

Send them a text just say, hey, I love you. I think it's so, so important. We were sitting at dinner with me, you, and our very close friend, and it's interesting, two things from our podcast actually came up that connected to the depths of our conversation. The first one was when you think about,

and then both were actually in the Sahil Bloom episode, But the first one is when you think about, like, how many times in life you might actually be with your parents or your grandparents or your aunts, uncles, brother, sister, best friends. Like, life passes us by so fast. We have so many things that become a priority and, like, the number of good quality times. Like, like, today, like you and I got to play golf today. Okay? We sat on that course for six hours, chopping and up laughing. Like, truly, how many more times in our life will we get to do that?

Well, it's happened so it's not free, like when's the last time we played golf? Oh, probably four years ago. So that's it. We're two best friends and we're in, you know, what is the problem of our lives right now? And it's taken us, we're golfing every four years. So if that trend continues, we got 10 more rounds of golfing us. Yeah. Those are things that got to change because those are the things like you think about today, how important is.

The other thing that's like when you're dealing with someone that you love and care so much about, that's going through such a hard time, I think you always want to naturally move in one direction to help them, or you're confused by like, what do I say? How do I say it? What's the next thing, right? And I'll never forget in the Sahil-Bloom episode when he said, when someone's struggling, someone you care about, maybe it's your wife, maybe it's a friend, maybe it's a family member, but you don't know how to respond. Don't try to respond. Just ask them. Do you need help? Do you need to be hugged or do you need to be heard? And if those things like are too cliche to you make it your own version of that but i do think that's a good way of of trying to

help someone that you really care about 100% and some personal news uh as well and jason already knows this uh because we've talked about it but in the same breath uh i am going to announce that uh my wife and i are uh pregnant uh with our second child um and we are very very excited about that um and i just like to throw it in there now which may seem a little weird because you're talking about, you know, celebrating one's life was past. And then at the same time, you're talking about, you know,

celebrating the announcement of looking forward to welcoming another child and to this world. But at the end of the day, that, my friends, is life. And the quicker that you can understand that and appreciate that and share that with everybody that you can, you guys listening on the podcast, but more importantly, like your closest family and your closest friends and have those conversations

and open up to each other. That's really what it's all about. And from the Sam episode to having all the money and not creating happiness and the reality of life is it's about the moments that you create and the people that you get to share it with and Ashton I are very, very excited

to welcome baby boy or girl. We'll find out in eight weeks. It is the circle of life. That's an awesome transition. Huge congratulations to you And Ashley, I know everyone at home's got to be wondering, when is Ashley due? December 5th, she's 13 weeks right now. Let me just tell you, Carter, our two-year-old, he was a dream pregnancy from all things.

Obviously, I don't know. I was just trying to take advantage of some of the weird cravings that Ashley was having. But it was very smooth, very seamless. She didn't get sick. This one's been a roller coaster. Ash says she feels hungover every single day. So it's been a little bit of a roller coaster We're hoping that means it's a girl

That's kind of what people have said But you know happy and healthy baby is all we care about But yeah It's it's it's exciting and terrifying And you know It'll be you'll just You'll just be overjoyed when when the time comes And you'll go in survival mode

And that's what it's all about I love it well I can speak for all the money mafia We are so happy for both you and Ashley and it is surreal that we get to announce something like this on a podcast. So congratulations to both you guys. And again, a week like this is a week that puts things in perspective, especially when we have a lot of this money and professional talk. Really, the only things that matter in life are the truest things are the people you care about,

family, friends, and that's what makes the world go around. And it's the circle of life. We're celebrating one's life. and now we're celebrating the future life of maybe your baby boy, maybe a baby girl, we will see. And I know I could speak for Dave, but I say two big Britney Spears fans over here. And I would say now to Sam Asgari fans. Absolutely. Absolutely.

Welcome to the fan. I love it. Well, if you guys can remember to give us five stars, take your guest. Do you think David's going to have a baby boy or baby girl? We might have to get some kind of game going on the Trading Secrets, Instagram, maybe a little giveaway, do some for out there. Who knows, baby boy or baby girl. It's coming in December. And we thank you guys for tuning into another episode of Trading Secrets, one you couldn't afford to miss. Thank you.