Trading Secrets - 241. Amanda Batula: From Summer House & Loverboy to launching her own swim brand, BTS of her entrepreneurial mindset, balancing love and money, & being unapologetically authentic

Episode Date: June 30, 2025

This week, Jason is joined by Summer House fan favorite, Loverboy co-founder, and true example of entrepreneurial spirit, Amanda Batula ! Amanda may be best known from Bravo’s hit series Summer House where she quickly became a fan favorite for his candidness, creativity, and unfiltered charm, but she is so much more than just a cast member. She is a designer, creative director, entrepreneur, and someone who is redefining what it means to build a business in the public eye. She has brought her design sensibility, branding, expertise, and sharp instincts to the forefront of the wellness and lifestyle space. With her eyes on the future, she is expanding her voice beyond reality TV and focusing on new creative projects, digital ventures, signature lines, and launching her own swimwear brand. Amanda opens up about heading into the new season of Summer House — from what she knew going into what fans can expect. She shares how her journey began with an internship at Rent the Runway and a junior graphic design role, never imagining she’d end up on reality TV. Amanda reflects on her first big purchase with her reality TV income, how she learned financial independence, and her thoughts on prenups. She dives into balancing love and business with her husband, what she earns from Loverboy, and the buzz around Labubus vs. Lafufus. Amanda also talks through how she chooses brand deals, what goes into creating content, and the impact of training their dogs, along with her passion for animal rescues. Plus, she gets candid about navigating depression and medication, the surprising influence of the Summer House fandom, and everything fans can look forward to this season. Amanda reveals all this and so much more in another episode you can’t afford to miss! Host: Jason Tartick Co-Host: David Arduin Audio: John Gurney Guest: Amanda Batula Stay connected with the Trading Secrets Podcast!  Instagram: @tradingsecretspodcast  Youtube: Trading Secrets Facebook: Join the Group All Access: Free 30-Day Trial  Trading Secrets Steals & Deals! OpenPhone: If you're running a business, you know that every time you miss a call, you're leaving money on the table. When every customer conversation matters, you need a phone system that keeps up and helps you stay connected - 24/7. That's why you need OpenPhone. OpenPhone is offering 20% off of your first 6 months at OpenPhone.com/tradingsecrets. UpWork: Upwork is the hiring platform designed for the modern playbook, where you can find, hire, and pay expert freelancers who can deliver results from day one. Perfect for businesses on tight budgets, fast timelines, and zero room for error. For a $200 credit after spending $1,000 in your first thirty days, Visit Upwork.com/save right now for this great offer. This Is Small Business Podcast: If you're building something, dreaming big, or just constantly thinking about your next move... I've got a podcast you need to check out. It's called This Is Small Business hosted by Andrea Marquez, and Season 6 just dropped. If you're plotting your next move - maybe launching that side hustle, scaling a business, or pivoting hard - go check out This Is Small Business.

Welcome back to another episode of Trading Secrets. I'm your host, Jason Tarrick, and welcome to the pre-market trading segment. I'm going to tell you a little bit about our guest today. Something from a finance perspective you should know going into this week and an update from my life. Two quick little updates for this episode. We will not have a recap this episode. We turn this episode so quickly because our guest is Amanda Batula from Summerhouse and she is actually going to film for the next season this week.

So we did all the editing, the shooting of this, the cutting, everything yesterday to get this out today. So no recap. That being said, there will be a recap next week for the Wells Adam and Jesse episode, the host of Bachelor in Paradise and bartender. And in that recap, we'll be giving two gifts away. So make sure on Apple to go give us five stars. Let us know your biggest takeaway from this episode. And we will be announcing those winners in next week's recap.

Now, this week I'm so excited about our guest. Amanda Batula is so respected in the reality TV space. She has been on years and years, almost a decade of reality TV. We've seen her get married on reality TV. We've seen the highs, the lows. We've seen her mental health distresses and successes. And I would say just like Summer House, Amanda Petula is peaking in all areas of life right now, personally, professionally, financially.

I ask her all her takes on love and money, pre-numps, how you manage the bank accounts with Kyle, how you manage the equity with Kyle's business, how is your business going? I talk about how much she's paid per episode, what she was making before she went into reality TV. Now, she's so respected as a creative because she is so creative. She was a creator, graphic designer, and in marketing all before this. And she's used that skill sets in all of her different businesses and endeavors. So everything from the hilarity that she just is embedded in her, to her storytelling, to the money she's making and is made, to her take on finances, love and money.

And, you know, we have, there's just some really good banter in this episode. You'll laugh a few times as well. So I'm excited about it. Now, something you should know as it relates to finances going into the week and this summer. Well, this summer, nearly 75% of American adults plan to take some sort of road trip, actually, with 33% of them traveling more than 250 miles from home. And this has increased this year and it stayed at an all-time high. A lot of people are saying due to the fact that the national average gas price is rate about $3.20.

But based on the cost of all things with inflation, we actually have a ranking of the best road. trip destinations for the summer based on state. The criteria for this list is the cost of the state, the safety rank, and all the activities that are within that state. Coming in at number one is Minnesota. Number two, New York, number three, Ohio, number four, Utah, and number five, Louisiana. At the bottom of that list is Delaware at 50, Connecticut at 49, Rhode Island at 48, Vermont at 47, and Montana at 46. I got to say I'm shocked by Montana being 40. That surprises me. Now, that being said, what's going out of my personal life? Well, this week for July 4th, I already told you I'm going to interview Jesse and Wells in New York on the second. And then me and Teddy are going to the Hamptons. We're spending a week up there for July 4th. We're actually going to crash one of Summer House's filming parties. That should be pretty fun. And I'm really excited about it. So next week's episode will be a good one. And next week in general will be a fun one. But you know what? Enough of me. Let's get in to this episode. with the one and only, the queen herself, Amanda Batula.

Today, we are sitting down with someone who's turned reality TV fame into a real-life entrepreneurial path. You may know her from Bravo's hit series Summerhouse, where she quickly became a fan favorite for her candidness, creativity, and unfiltered charm. But Amanda Batula is so much more than just a cast member. She's a designer, creative director, entrepreneur, and someone who is redefining what it means to build a business in the public eye. Co-founding and helping build Lover Boy

into a standout beverage brand. She's brought her design, sensibility, branding expertise, and sharp instincts to the forefront of the wellness and lifestyle space. Now, as she has eyes on the future, Amanda is expanding her voice beyond reality TV,

focusing on new creative projects, digital ventures, signature lines, and launching her own swimwear brand. She is carving out of space that's authentic, intentional. and distinctly hers. Amanda, thank you for joining us on Trading Secrets. Thank you. That was long-winded. Who wrote that? This one, this was like, actually, this was like just dialed in right there. I sound extremely impressive. Well, you are impressive. You are impressive. And you're not only impressive,

but you are going to get ready for another season of filming. When do you guys film? This weekend. So it's like, fourth of July, yeah. This comes out Monday. It's this week you're going. Yes, everyone, we always film July and August. And everyone's always like, why are you not out there in June? And they start freaking out but we always start filming fourth of July weekend okay how do you there's been a lot of change you've talked about it at length everyone's talked about at length some people are missing pages gone how you feel it like in general how you feel and going into it i mean i'm always excited for the summer i think her absence is definitely going to be felt whenever we're in the house and someone's even missing for a weekend you can feel that they're gone for the most part so to not have her there

all summer it's going to be an adjustment but i think we'll be able to forge ahead I mean, we have to. We can't be sitting there crying. Do you feel like pressure? Like you got to like bring an extra magnified Amanda to the game now that the one of the big fireworks is missing? I don't think so. I'm most, you know, we had our little trio with like me, Paige and Sierra. And that was awesome.

And I think that's where we're going to feel the most absence is with the banter between the three of us. But Sierra and I will do our best. All right. We'll get into more summer house for the summer house fans before. I get into some of the stuff you're doing before filming, I'm curious, like, do you have any idea who might be joining the house? Like any, I mean, last year, we knew that you had part in in bringing Lexi in, right? So do you have part in bringing anyone in? Do you have any type of idea? We, for the most part, know as much as everyone else does. Whoever has announced that

they're not coming back. That's what I know for sure. I do know of one new cast member because it's a friend of ours, of Kyle and mine. But that's as much as I know. Like I have... Does your name start with a vowel? It's a man. It's a man. Guy. Okay. Interesting. Yeah. Been in the public spotlight before. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah, but I don't know. I don't think so. Do I know him? I don't think so.

Okay. I could tell you later, but... Tell me later. Yeah. I actually went on a date with someone two, three months ago. Okay. And they told me they were casting. Yeah. Yeah. So I wonder if she'll be on. They've been doing a ton of casting for this new season because there are like a lot of big players that it feels like are out. I've heard about like seven different girls that are going to be on the season. I'm like, no way that there's seven new girls coming on the show. But I've heard rumors about like seven different people. So I have no idea what to expect. Well, we can't wait to see. It'll be interesting to see if this person's on. We'll talk about it offline. Let me know what

you think of her. And because you actually, when you and Kyle and I were at the bar one day, you were like, you know what, Jason, I need to help you out in this whole dating thing. I'm going to set you straight. so I'll get your opinion. Yeah, no, absolutely. All right, let's get out of stuff. At least you're still dating. I'm still dating, yeah. That's good.

Going on dates? What do you mean? Like, I haven't quit? Yeah. Yeah. Still at it. I'm throwing it in. I'm out of here.

Still giving it a go here. A little college try. All right, let's get into some of your career stuff before you went on reality TV. So before you were on TV. Like, what was your first job as far as I know it was in marketing, great design? Like, what exactly was it? What did it look like? How much you make?

Tell us a little about that. Like out of college? Yeah. Or like right before. out of college up until filming. Yeah. So I started out interning for Rent the Runway. Okay, cool.

It was paid, but, like, very little. There was nowhere for me to grow out at the time. So then I got a job as a junior graphic designer at Loxetan. Okay. I was probably making, I want to say, like, $50,000 a year. Like, which is not a lot in New York City. Sure. I was able to, like, get by and manage.

But that was my first job. I did that for five years. Wow. And three of those years, I was filming Summer House. So I was working a corporate job for three seasons of the show. So the marketing job that you referred to in season one was this position. Yes. And you're making $50,000 at this point.

I assume you're making more than in the show or close to. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. So to get an opportunity like, that's huge. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.

It was especially to have that extra income at a point where, my paycheck was going to have to go to rent or like clothing and food that month. You know, it was like picking and choosing. So the timing could not have been more perfect for me. Don't take this the wrong way because I also apply this to myself. I think if you ask like my best friends in high school, they would be like, that's not a guy for reality TV. I think if you see someone like Paige, they're going to be like, get that girl on reality TV. Did you ever see reality TV in your future?

Because you don't strike me as someone who's like, people in high school are like, oh yeah, a man is going to be a reality TV star. No, that was not nominated in the yearbook for like the most likely to be on TV. I fell in love with Kyle. This is not something that I thought I was going to do. I think as a joke, like, I mean, when you're with your friends, you're always joking about, like, we could be on TV. Jersey Shore was really big at the time. We're from New Jersey. But never in my life was I serious about being on television.

Glamour came out with an article like two years ago, and I think the headline was like the most normal girl on reality TV. And I was like, is this a diss? Yeah. Oh, 100%. Which is super flattering. But yeah, I'm not like your cookie cutter reality TV person, which I think is what makes it work for me. Totally, because it creates that relatability for the person at home that's also not. They see themselves in you.

Yeah, I'm different than a lot of people that you see on the screen. Yeah, okay. All right, let's get the dollars and cents here. So we're in a really good space with Bravo. So I like to stay in a good space with Bravo. But what I always do that Bravo's cool with is I make these like touchpoint analogy. So with Bryn Whitfield from Real Housewives, we talked about how much she spends on a DoorDash. And she referred her DoorDash money to how much she makes per episode.

So with you, I got to do marketing jobs. So marketing job, 50 grand, in your first season, more or less. I think less. Yeah, less. Less. But close. Old? Half. More than half. More than half.

Yeah. Okay. Somewhere in that. somewhere yeah okay so now in just short period of time you're having fun you're falling in love life is good you're making a couple bucks now your reality tv star you get the money in your bank account what is the first thing you spend money on that you're just like i'm doing it let's go what is it this is crazy i bought a leather briefcase for kyle that was your first purchase it was 500 this is the most demand of shit i've ever heard i know i've never spent that much money at the time on

anything. What brand was it? I don't even know. It was like this, it was sleek. Kyle was he was working on like joined Phoenix at the time. I think he might have been starting lover boy. I can't remember. And I was just so excited that he was taking this like entrepreneurial journey. And I wanted to buy him like a nice briefcase so you could ride around the city on a city bike. So I spent $500 of which I probably shouldn't even spend at the time on him for like a birthday gift. And that was my big, Yeah. Wow. And you don't know what my second big splurge was? What? I just bought it. I was going to ask you about this. Last week in Cannes, my mu mu mu bag. I do not spend, I don't buy designer. I don't spend a ton of money. This was like a reward for all the hard work that I've been doing. Keep this thing up. I'm not done with this. This is Mu-Mu, okay? I added all these things. I got questions. Especially as a single guy that might have to get in this whole game of gift giving at some point here. Okay.

M-Mu, how much does this thing cost? Actually, let me guess. Let me guess. Because that looks, I think it's a fancy-ass brand, if I remember, right? Yeah. 10 grand? No. Five grand.

Less. Four grand. Yeah, it was around four. Which isn't bad. Not bad. Mew is a reasonably priced. I'm out. You're not done with this thing.

Okay. What are these little things, how much of these things cost? I got these like off Amazon or something. Oh, wow. So just like, this is a M-M-U-1. L-T-K, let's go. Yeah, they're just fun little, like, keychain, I don't know, decorating the bag. Okay, before we go.

there's something in that bag that all the i put an instagram story out there and i was like tell me what you want to me to ask amanda and they all kept saying la fufu la fafa do you want to meet them what it what is oh shit this is the japanese thing oh my god i've heard all about this you want to meet him yes this is this a real one no this well okay so lububu's are this like there's stuffed animal thing i don't really get it yeah yeah i see it all over tic talk i was the thing on Wall Street Journal about these. Yeah, and they became so popular that people are reselling them, but now some of the resellers are making fake ones, and they've now have the name Lafoufoo instead of Labou, because they're fake. I got bamboozled, and I ended up

buying a fake one. Wait, did you know it was fake? No, I did not. So this is the whole thing. This is my Lafoufoufoo. I have read so many Wall Street Journal things about these, but I don't, let me see this thing. Okay. It's not like a Tomogachi. It doesn't talk to you. It's literally just like a stuffed toy with the vinyl face that girls are putting on their bags and key chains. Why? What is it? You are with it. What is it? I think. I have no idea. I think that there's like a K-pop star that started putting it on her bags. I mean, this looks fake. It's just like. No, it's so. It's so. It's so much to be round. No, there's so many things wrong with it. $15, which I think that they go for like 15 to 20. But resale, they can. And you can buy a blind box for up to like $100 resale.

And I was like, I'm not doing that. But this is my Lafoofoo. That's unbelievable. All right. There's a Lafou, 15 bucks he got ripped off. But hey, where'd you buy it from? There's a good story. Just some like website.

I trust TikTok too much, honestly. What? I should stay off of that. I'm just curious. Like, I had the guy who sent me all this information about this. It actually works for the podcast. He's like a crypto bro. Yeah.

Keep foo out here, actually. Let him join us. We got Loverboy and the foo thing. But he's like in the know. How did you come across this? TikTok. Okay. Just TikTok.

It comes up on my TikTok. I'm chronically online. I don't know. I get hit with like the most random things on my for you page and I'm obsessed with it. And I kept seeing these on boxings. And I was like, I need to unbox one of these. Of all the questions, when do you have kids, where you're moving, all the shit that

people want to know the gossip. This was literally the top one. Yeah. No, it's been a whole journey. We're on a journey to get me a real Lubu Boo Boo. You're on a journey. I love it. know someone if anybody knows someone out there and don't get ripped off round two 15 bucks we'll get you

a long way let's go back to before the show so 50,000 you're making someone this 25 50,000 you're starting to get some fame what was we talk a lot about this with all different guests but like what was your dependence on your family to help you survive in the city and financially and things like that what it look like and when and if did you separate yeah so I moved I I graduated college I lived home for about a year while I was interning in the city. So I was commuting back and forth to New Jersey. And then I got my job at Laxeton.

And that's when I moved into the city. And once I moved out of my parents' house, they cut me off. Everything except for my phone bill, which my dad still pays to this day. Just the family plan. It makes sense. But they cut me off right then and there. Interesting. But making, paying rent, figuring out balancing my finances.

I'm still on the phone plan right now. Yeah, I'm still on the phone plan right now. The family plan. Yeah, he was like, just Kyle want to join? Do you plan his Kyle on? He, Kyle's like AT&T. I'm on Verizon. Gotcha.

Confession. I'm still on my parents' plan, 36. Yeah. Just I haven't done the work to, and I don't want to lose my 716 numbers, but I Venmo them every. I'm like grandfathered in. I feel like if I could still be in my parents' health care, they'd be paying, you know, helping me out to. You know what's embarrassing, though? is like sometimes, all right, I'm single, right? You are?

Yeah. Someone gives me a number. Someone gives me a number. This is unbelievable. It's like my sister over here. Someone gives me their number and then I call him. It says Gary Tardock. I got to, you got to put that on my cat. I got it. Wait, why? Because it's still under his thing. But so is mine and mine doesn't come up like that. I figure of Verizon. You got to figure that out. Yeah, Verizon. Help me out. Who is this man calling me? Who is Mr. Gary Tarnet. Yeah. Unbelievable. Why is Jason's dad calling me? Yeah, this is so weird? What a setup. It's a little too soon to meet the family.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's too soon. All right, so you're living in home. They cut you off. But I have a question, though, what is being, like, your cut off, what does being on mean? Like, did you get credit cards? Did they give you a whole stipend? I mean, I had jobs in high school and college that was, like, the money that I would spend. But for anything considered, like, a necessity, so food.

Yeah. And then obviously I would spend it on alcohol, too. Unless I was with my parents, it was mostly food and stuff. But I did have to tap into my family maybe like a small handful of times to help pay rent those first few years. Or that first year when I was figuring it out. Sure. My dad's like, Amanda, your bank account is low. It's like, oh, my mom, that's crazy.

I actually have to pay rent. How that happened. But it wasn't his money that he was sending me. It was my own money that I had from like, yes, that he would put into. to my account. So I technically was financially independent at that point. Since then, have you ever had to go back to ask for anything and or even ask them to like invest in one of your projects? I haven't had to ask for anything. My favorite thing to do now is like pay for dinner when we go out with my parents and like slip my card to the waiter.

Yeah. That's like a really fun thing that like a time in my life now where I'm able to pay for their meal instead of them paying for me. But no, the only thing they've invested, sit in is lover boy that's cool yeah i love it awesome speaking of lover boy you were the face of lover boy and i'm just curious kyle came on the podcast we could probably roll the clip back right now he was very adamant in his first episode that he came on about how serious he was about giving people equity yeah and like how serious they had to be to the company for him to do it and it was a hard thing for him to do do you have equity in the company and what did that look like that is a tricky question for me to answer because I do have equity it I did not invest my equity was you know a sweat equity

it's the time that I put in but there is something that happened like once we got married that I got some sort of thing I don't know I don't know the ins and outs of it okay and I probably should I just trust that man too much so but yeah we wait he waited until we got married and then I got equity somehow that way okay we're going to talk about love and money and all the different things that you guys do while we're on this topic real touch do you have i ask every guess this this isn't specific to you but do you have a take on like pre-numps and like what happens with all this stuff before or after so i messed up i messed up major i i don't know if it was like the movies that you would watch growing up or the tabloids but pre-nup had such a

negative connotation it was connected to divorce it always felt so messy you would see like celebrities and pre-up this and pre-nup that and it just didn't feel like a smart thing to do so we didn't sign one everyone should sign a pre-up okay let me tell you now yeah protect your assets for them to protect theirs like you have no idea what's going to happen you think that you're in love and happy now it could end really messy and then what you're screwed like true you want to i think pre-ups it's just someone explained it to me it's like you get health insurance not because you think you're going to get sick, but it's at the, you know, at the chance that you do.

So the same thing with a pre-up. It's not like because you're preparing for divorce. It's in case something happens, you want to have that security. So everyone should get a pre-nup. Hear it from the girl that didn't get one. Hear it from the girl that didn't get one. But if you look at your success and trajectory since saying I do. I should have protected my assets.

You should have protected your job. I'm just saying, moving on up. Rocket is on your back and you are killing it. One thing I'm curious about is, you know, I've been in relationships where work and kind of like love intersect, and it's really, really hard. And it's also really hard to find kind of roles within that. And we've seen it on TV.

Some of those struggles unfold between you and Kyle. Where do you stand today with like the roles and responsibilities within the business outside the business? Do you have hard rules on how to do? deal with it, et cetera. Yeah, our rules have always been very fluid. There is nothing that's like set in stone. We tried really hard to do like the working together on a daily basis thing. We just took each other's criticism too personally. Like if he had an issue with something that like me and my team were working on, I would take offense to it. If I was complaining about a struggle

that I was having within the company, he would take that very personally and feel like I was attacking him. Yeah. We were just too close to home. We did it for a while. We were also, like, living in our apartment that we were working out of, and it was just the two of us. And I feel like it wasn't the best start to, like, working together. It was during the pandemic. Sure. That's a lot.

It was a lot. It was tough. And there was a while where it was working really well, and until it wasn't, I think, until things got busier. But for me now, I've, like, separated myself. So I work on projects from more of, like, a high level. Anything that's new, any big collaborations, any, you know, new products that we're doing, new packaging, new branding, anything like that, I'm on, I'm overseeing, I'm hands-on, everything else, the day-to-day, like, once I've done that part of it, it's the rest of the team. So that way, you don't have to work every single day with Kyle. I don't have to tell him what's going on.

Like, someone else can do that? In the company, like in Loverboy, do you report to Kyle? Like, what's the, what does the org chart look like? This is a whole conversation. So when we, when I was working every single day, I was like, I'm not reporting to you. You're not my boss. And he's like, okay, well, you report to Nick then, our C-O. And I was like, well, Nick reports to you.

Yeah. I'm not going to tell. I literally, we live together. We're with each other 24-7. I'm not going to, like, tell Nick what's going on in my day-to-day. Like, it just felt like I was being treated as more of an employee than his partner and spouse. which when we started it, it was like he was the business side and I was taking on the creative side of things. And I never wanted to be his employee. So I was like, I'm not reporting to someone.

I was like, if you have an issue with me, I'm your wife, talk to me. Like it shouldn't be, like we shouldn't have to do it like in a, you know. You have to like set up a one on one. Yeah. And then there were like annual reviews too that they kept asking me to schedule an annual review. And I said, if you want me to review you as my husband every single year, I'm happy. to do an annual review about lover boy otherwise we're not doing that and he said okay fine so did you ever do an annual review there's no document no there's nothing so you report to no one no I report to no one yes and this little Timoo thing yeah exactly or what that team move foo foo his name is Gwee Gwee Gwee someone I asked my I feel like he says like this like Gwegoly

all right there we go zoom in on that all right we're almost so in lover boy talk I just have a couple more questions. Another thing Kyle talked about when he came on the episode was like how he pays people salary, equity shares, all this. How do you get compensated? Because that's a topic that was discussed a little bit on the show too. Yeah. So I wasn't paid at all at first, which I was, you know, I'm trusting his word and, you know, he's saying this is how it's going to go. We're not going to take a salary and it's going to pay off in the long run. So at first I wasn't salaried. then we started making some money then a little bit more and now that I've taken a step back I think I'm paid just enough to cover my health insurance okay gotcha because I'm making money

in other ways yeah and I'm not a part of the business every single day sure so I'm like okay if I get health care then okay so that's that's me right now we're technically working for free you have well Evan and I own a business together we haven't taken salaries since 2020 so I get where he's coming from i'm back yeah i'm backing you up here my man i'm backing and i never argued it either i was like okay i'm i'm just trusting where you're taking me with this and that will eventually get in there last question i got too how much did you put into the design so like what's right here yeah what was your work see that little purple spot now so we worked with an agency to design the logo and the cans okay they would give

us like different directions. I was very hands-on in directing what this looked like. I would get back like the drafts of the different directions we could go in. I would combine them. I would merge them. I would tell them exactly what I wanted it to look like. So I was extremely hands-on. I wasn't actually creating it, but I was telling them like I want to combine direction one and direction two. I want to pull this. I don't like this on the logo. Like I had a ton of say, but my strong suit isn't branding necessarily or like logo creation so I let someone who's a professional do that and then I just was very very hands on in what it looked like I love it last question we got as I'm going to open this up what is a number do you have a number like in your head that you're

like I would love Kyle to sell it for this amount this is the dream I don't 500 million five kyle you got big shoes to fill my man you asked for a number i asked for a number and something tells me being having big shoes to fill is the standard no i'm just kidding all right it's not my business luckily yeah all right let's get into creator a little bit so it's a huge part of your business right now and so from a creator perspective when you think about filming doing creative design you have you obviously your swim brayer you have all these different identities and different career paths. In the creator space, like, what is your take on it?

What's your relationship with this area of your life and income now? Yeah, I feel like I was hesitant to get involved for a while. There was a point in time where I felt like it was extremely oversaturated and everyone was just selling anything that they could. Sure. You know, it felt super inauthentic. So when I did choose to get involved, I wanted my stuff to, like, feel different than what other people were doing you were late to you were very late so late so was Kyle yeah I mean we

just started like a year ago yeah like really started and that the reason behind that was just like we did it have anything to do with not knowing like the business and income potential or was it just like we want to stay away we're good no I knew the potential but I would I mean maybe not the extent of the potential but I was aware that like people were buying homes and cars just being like Instagram influencers, but for me, like, I just didn't, I would see other creators like selling, everyone's selling the same stuff, doing things that like they weren't actually use or they wouldn't be caught dead wearing. And I was like, I don't want to be a sellout. Yeah. But I was able to find a great team and make it work where I'm able to work with brands that

it is very authentic for me and it's easy and natural for me to talk about. I've made the mistake of working with brands that it wasn't authentic. And I don't know how to speak about it. I don't know how to sell you something that I don't even want to buy myself. So that's a, I mean, this is kind of like uncovering the influencer creator world a little bit. What are some things that you think about when I'm, because deals come to you, right? And I'm sure they're sizable. Like, what are some things you think about to say, okay, I see the paycheck, but how do you evaluate? Oh, yeah. I've turned down plenty of deals. What's like the biggest dollar amount you've turned down maybe in like the hundred thousand yeah yeah why'd you turn it down it just didn't make

sense for me it didn't feel authentic it wasn't something that i used or would use and that's a big thing for me again if i if it's not a product that i currently use a brand that i currently purchase or something that i could see myself incorporating into my lifestyle i'm not going to do it and even if it's six figures like i won't know because i i i probably myself on honesty and authenticity, and I think that's a big part of, you know, reality TV also is always being truthful. So I want to continue that. Even though I'm doing these brand deals and selling stuff, I'm not going to sell you something that I don't use. True. I love it. And that's why people connect with you, right? Let's talk about, you said no to a six-figure deal. Let's talk about

the big deal. What's like been the biggest lucrative? What's like your, what's your Grammy of a deal you've done from the influencer space? The biggest deal I've done so far, was with face reality, which is an acne skin care brand. Obviously, you used it before. Yeah, no, I hadn't. So this is one where it made sense for me. I was dealing with breakouts. Okay.

I did my research on the company. I saw real reviews, real people that used it. They saw actual results from it. And I was like, okay, this makes sense. I have acne. I'm breaking out. I can use this product to help solve an issue I have, and it felt authentic and real. So even though I wasn't using it,

beforehand. It was something that I was going to incorporate in my life and I still use it to this day. The reason it was my biggest deal was because it was, I think, the longest. It was like a six month, six or eight month deal. I think I'm still doing it right now. I think you are. You're killing it though. I love it. Let's go. A lot of travel, a lot of events, a lot of stuff. It's been like a great experience. But yeah, that's been my biggest one. Congratulations. That's awesome. So I actually saw that deal and then in preparation for this podcast. I was going through your Instagram. I'm looking at all the deals you did. And I saw an Instagram post with Swiffer. I work with Swiffer. They're the best. I'm a SWIFR fan myself. But tell me a little bit, let's get specific behind one brand collaboration. So, you know, what's the story behind that? What made you say yes to working with them? Was it the product? Was it the integration with your pets? Give us a little behind the scenes of a specific deal. Yeah. I mean, it was a little bit of everything. So this is a great example of a brand that I was already purchasing. I already had Swiffer in my home. I had the mop, the wet mop. I had the dry cloths. I had, you know, the Swiffer dusters. I had everything.

thing. So this was authentic for me. It's like, why not promote something that I already use? And then the best thing about it, it wasn't just promoting something that I already used. They had like the newest innovation in 25 years. It's called the Swiffer Sweep and Mop Deluxe. Okay. Wait, I haven't heard this. Yeah. So it has a collapse. So you can do the dry cloths and the wet cloth both on one stick. Oh, I heard that. Yep. The dry and the wet. And then you do the dry first. Yeah, dry first and then the wet. And then it has a collapsible stick too, which I love because his living an apartment, it's great when you don't have a ton of storage.

So everything sort of just seemed to align for me. And it's so much better to have like one cleaning tool than multiple. And especially when you can just store it under your sink and not a closet. So this just, it totally made sense for me to do because it was a product that I was already using. And now I can get rid of all the other mops and brooms and sweepers and whatever I have at my closet. Pack your bags for the summer house, too. Yeah.

I can come with you. All right. One thing I always think about from a creator perspective is the process of making content. So when you're thinking about making content like this or you use it already, but then you actually have to make the content. There's people listening to this right now. They own a business. They own a small business or they're trying to make content. But they struggle with like integration of something they are to use. So when you're making the content, where's the thought process behind the creative branding of Amanda? And then what's important to you when you're building the actual creative concept of it? This is the thing that I probably struggle with the most. I sit and like stare at my phone for hours thinking. Do you really? Not for hours, but like for a while. I mean, sometimes Julie won't hear from me because I'm just like, I don't know. I don't know how to fix this.

I don't know how to edit it. I don't know where to start. I don't know where to begin. And then once it comes to me, it just flows. Again, I think the best thing is fitting it into your life naturally, not trying to make your content look like other people's. Really staying true to who you are. And I think that that's why I love that they wanted my dogs involved in it, because that's a huge part of my life.

So to be able to film with the dogs is so easy. And honestly, the easiest content I make is when a brand wants me to involve my dogs. Because I'm like, okay, I'll sit on the couch with my dogs. Like that's so easy. You're doing it anyway. Yeah, no, literally. Is it hard to film with them, recent riders? They're not the best.

Yeah. But they have to pay their way, so they have to do it one way or the other. I obviously, I'm a huge dog guy myself. I rescued Teddy too. Yes, I saw that. Yes, he's the best. He is the best. You got him back from training recently. I just got him back from training. I'm glad you did that. We did training camp too. Did you do it too?

Yeah. There was a lot of, so like my vet, the group that I rescued the dog from wags and walks, and the trainer I was working with individual, all were like, this is the place to go. He has to go. Yeah. Based on his reactivity, you don't really have a question. Yeah. He has come back a totally different dog.

It's incredible what they're able to do. Yeah. He is way happier. Did you find a big difference in it? Yeah, dogs want, like, they want that direction. They need to be sort of. guided so giving him those like rules and and structure makes for a happier dog they he needs to see you as a leader it's like and if you're just rolling around in the mud all day you're just a pal

I don't know it's a therapy for dogs he's got traumas we got to figure it out exactly I actually found the hardest thing about it after he got back was that I had to learn how to be a good parent to him yeah like in the right commands and the consistency and everything so as much as he got trained I had to get trained exactly because he's looking to you to lead him and direct him. Exactly. Yeah. So, no, it's incredible.

When I took my dogs, we found out that they're back of the pack dogs. Interesting. Like, I was going to ask you, what's the most thing that surprised you? Yeah, he was like, they're definitely not front of the pack. They're not even middle of the pack. You have two back the pack dogs. And we get videos of them on their, like, pack walks. Yeah.

And my two are in the back. I think our dogs get along because mine is the opposite. Oh, really? He has to be. So he has, he looks like a gold and he's not. He's Anatolian. He's German. He's chow-chow. He is a great Pyrenees. He's only 2% golden. So when he gets in, if he came in here, he would have to sniff, before he could say hello to anybody, he would have to sniff the whole perimeter of everything so that like he understood his place. And even with walking him, they're like, listen, he'll listen to you. Here's how it's going to work. But he always is going to be all over the place. Because his sniffing is what create, because he's a guard dog. He has to go, like, it's part of his DNA. You can't help it. So our dogs would be friends then.

My little wreaths just barks at everything and everyone. Okay, I love it. Well, you're giving me an opportunity to throw a chirp at Kyle. I got to throw a chirp at Kyle. We talked about Swift. We've talked about the dogs. We've talked about work, equity, creativity, ownership, who you're reporting to on the topic of cleaning. I'm just curious, how is Kyle as a cleaner at home?

Does he participate? Does he report to you? Do you report to him in the cleaning department? Yes and no. So when we first moved into the apartment, I was like eager and willing to clean. like I would, you know, be cleaning the bathroom, cleaning the kitchen, like really getting into it. And he'd be like, don't clean that. We'll hire someone to do it.

Okay. It's an outsource guy. Yeah. He's an outsource guy, but I've never seen him pick up a duster once in my life. So, like, I'm doing the in-between cleanings for sure. But he washes the dishes. He takes down the trash and the recyclables. All right.

So. I'll beat you up too bad, Kyle. But he's not like, he's just doing daily chores. He's not doing, like, cleaning, cleaning. Like, I've never seen that man use wind axe. You're running this show for Reese and Ryder. Before I kind of get off the topic of dogs, a couple questions for you. One, and I think this is a really important one, you rescued two.

Yes. And rescuing is a huge task. Rescuing two is an even larger task. What advice would you give to anybody that's thinking about the process of rescuing dogs? Yeah. You have to give them time to adjust. I think even if you have a brand new puppy that has, like, no trauma, the puppy phase is one of the hardest phases. last for like three years almost it's chaotic and I think that's when a lot of dogs will get

returned or abandoned because they don't know what to expect but you have to give the dog time I think when I fostered these two were my third time fostering and we ended up adopting them but with the first two dogs we fostered we had to give them time to adjust and warm up and it wasn't until the end of those two weeks that we had them that their personalities just started start to come out. So when you're adopting, you have to be patient with the dog. You have to like, you know, understand boundaries and give them time to warm up and their personalities will come out and they will shine and they'll figure it out. But you can't just expect like adopt a dog and it come home and it's going to be like your best friend right away. Yeah, it takes time.

I think they say that you need to be with them like pretty much every single day at almost every moment. Three days is when they start to get to know you. Three weeks is when they start to get an idea of their home. After three months of consistency, they're really in. I think while scouring your Instagram, I saw that you were doing some work with a shelter. I don't know. Tell me a little bit, because I'm like a huge proponent of all rescues. So like in shelters too. They play huge roles. Tell me a little bit about that. So it was with Swiffer. And that was another, the shelter. I went with Swiffer. So another reason I really wanted to work with Swiffer is because they love pets just as much as I do. They're a huge proponent for it. I mean, they even have like pet heavy duty.

dry cloths and pet heavy duty wet cloths like specific for animals and then they work with nsala cool so that's why I went there and I cleaned up I played with puppies I filmed some content it was really fun and one of my favorite stories actually from that experience is I posted some videos before because we had so much content from that day because I was just playing with puppies for like two hours tough job yeah no content creation is so hard. So I posted some of the cute videos that I had of the dogs that I knew I wouldn't be using in my content. And one of my followers ended up adopting the one dog because she saw it on my story. That is incredible. And she sent me a photo and now I get to follow this dog's journey. And they're just like the cutest little family and it's the perfect thing. But I love that. Like I loved fostering. Fostering is so rewarding to be able to like, you know, give that dog, show it love and then like give it to someone else. And this sort of reminded me of that. Like, I was with the dog for an hour.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I grew so attached. And I was like, I helped this dog find a home. And I think that's really awesome. So now I get to watch the puppy grow up. You can't beat that. N-S-A-N-S-A-L-A, right? And it's a Swiffer's partner.

I think that's awesome. And shelters are just such an important piece of the puzzle with rescuing. And like Teddy was at a shelter that was overcrowded. And it's all based on time. So he was there another week. he would have been euthanized because of overcrowding. Well, the great thing about NSALA is there a no-kill shelter. Wow.

And I think that's, I mean, I'm not speaking for Swiffer, but I assume that's part of the reason that they work with them. Good for NSA-A-A-L-A. You're like, L-M-N-O-P, because it's a lot different in the South. Yeah, no, all of our rescues and fosters came from the South. Wow. Yeah. Amazing.

I love it. All right. Well, now we've got a transition to what everyone's been waiting for. A little bit of Summer House talk here. Okay, let's go. So let's just talk about, like, when you go into this season after last season, what is your biggest concern? What is one thing from last season you didn't expect that you're like, this season, I have to adjust. We've seen a lot of adjusting, by the way, right?

Yeah. We saw Jesse go from A to Z. We saw Wes go from Z to A. Like, people adjust season to season. What are you thinking about? I, nothing. I have no thoughts. Come on.

You got to give you five. There's trolls. There's noise. There's good. There's high. There's loads. No thoughts. No thoughts.

I've been doing this for nine years now. at this point, it's like, if you don't like me, then you just, like, don't like me. I think last summer was actually one of my best summers ever. I was on my antidepressants for, like, five months at that point. I was feeling really good going into the summer. I think I was, like, my lightest and best that I've ever been last summer. So I'm not going to change that. You've talked a lot about this.

Even, like, I listen to a podcast and prep for this. You're getting ready for your wedding, and you said you cried almost like every day leading up to your wedding right and on the show you've talked about the mental highs and lows and you just brought up antidepressants so talk to me about like what has it's been a journey for you yeah so like from a mental health perspective what if you had to summarize the journey how would you summarize it and what has been like the number one contributor to your overall sense of like calm peace and happiness yeah i think the hardest part is like going through it like when you're in it you don't realize you're sort of in it and as soon as you realize

that like you're struggling and you need help that's the moment that you should take action because it immediately changes your life like going I mean I feel like part of the reason I wasn't really doing content creation was because I was depressed and any little tasked overwhelmed me and was so daunting for me and now that I've changed that it's like changed my whole world really the fact that I was traveling so much last month and doing so many brand partnerships and deals is so it's 180 from where I was this time or like two years ago because the depression paralyzed you yeah and so has has the antidepressant been one of the key contributors I think that is the key contributor and I try to do other things you know I attempt to go on walks I attempt I'm not

very active girl I try to do other things but like I'm more social now with my friends and stuff too I'm more responsive. I try to like not back out of plans. And just getting out there is super helpful and connect reconnecting with my friends because they cut a lot of people off. I just like was sad. Depression. Yeah.

I just didn't want to talk to anyone. It was overwhelming. So yeah, I think the medication really has like pushed me. I should be going to therapy too. We're still working on it. Okay. I got a question. I'm getting in the reads a little bit and have been very open about my journey towards

it. I went to a psychiatrist, met with them, and then they diagnosed me. Did you, for you to get to the point where you're like, okay, this is what I need and this is what's going to change my life? Like, what direction? Was that through like a general doctor? Was a psychiatrist? Was it a friend?

Like, what was like the thing? If someone's hearing this. Yeah. And they're like, I need the next step. Yeah. Because I don't even know where to get prescribed. But what was the next step for you or the first step? So for me, going to see a doctor was a huge hurdle.

Like I was feeling so low that the idea. of like finding a doctor calling someone like making an appointment getting dressed leaving my apartment was too much for me so I without a questionnaire I thought I had anxiety so I'm ready to get like anti-anxiety medication it the questionnaire the whatever I complete it it comes back it says that like you're moderately to severely depressed and I was like what she's like no I'm anxious I was like, no, you're depressed, and we're sending you medication right now. So that first medication, I didn't have to leave my apartment. And that was, like, huge for me to just be able to sit on my couch and do that and get prescribed to medication.

It got me off the couch. It got me, like, filming during the summer. It got me to do what I needed to do. And then I went and saw a psychiatrist as well to help figure out, like, the perfect medication for me. sure and one that works and just make sure that like it is it anxiety is it depression wow there's interesting intersection between anxiety depression and then like ADHD too and what's interesting is like the prescripts for all those and do like night and day like way different things so yeah finding out like specifically what it is it's hard yeah it's a different

ballgame out there speaking about different ballgame we're going into this season when this season's over and wraps you look back at this season what do you want your brand to be what do you want like your thing to be this season that is a tough question so what's funny is i go into every summer with no expectations like i don't know if i'm a producer's dream or a producer's worst nightmare because i have no storyline like i they ask me like what's going on in your life like what do you do what do you see for yourself this summer and i was like nothing and i just like go with the flow and shit always falls on my lap. So I, and I think that's also sort of what makes me different too

is I'm not thinking about like what my journey is going to look like. I'm just on the ride. Yeah. So I don't know what the end of the summer is going to look like for me. It's going to be a mystery to all of us. A lot of your pressure, it feels like I could be wrong, but they're going to want to know what's next with you and Kyle. Where are you living?

Are you having kids? Are you getting another dog? What's going on? Are you prepared to step into that? Yes and no. I'll tell you a secret. Well, I don't know if I've talked about this before. So we filmed a scene where Kyle and I, he's asking me about, like, kids.

And I was like, I don't even know if I want kids anymore. Well, the reason I said that is because I'm so tired of being asked, when are you going to have kids. Sure, yeah. I don't know when. Yeah. Like, I don't know if I want to have kids and now stop asking me about it. Yeah, get away. I want kids.

Yeah. Okay. I don't know when I'm going to have that, okay? I just don't know what that looks like for us right now. Eventually, I want kids. But, yeah, I mean, Kyle's out DJing. Kyle's gone all the time. How am I supposed to, like, I don't want to be a single mother.

I'm happy to do it, but, like, I don't want to be married and have the responsibility of a husband while also being a single mom. You know what I mean? Well, he might have to cut some of those DJs out. While he's out partying and drinking. Like, if he was, like, doing hard work or, like, off at war, like, certain things, like, I understand. But I'm not trying to raise kids by myself while he's, you know, at the club. I feel like you guys have always had a pretty good dynamic with just like you understand that's what is like he enjoys that and you're just like whatever where a lot of relationships

don't I remember when we last summer I think we were there and we were you guys were were filming and everyone's together and then we came to the club and you guys were all gone I was like I remember saying I was like is Amanda like cool with this he's like yeah she doesn't care she's good with it so get him out of my hair send him away get him to the club yeah no literally that's a good balance. Yes. No, and I know that he needs that. You know, I know that he needs to socialize, and he knows that I need to not socialize. So I'm like, if you're with safe, with people that, like, I feel safe with, then like, go out. Do your thing. Okay, I love it. A couple more questions on Summer House. There's been some noise by the haters and trolls. They're saying they need to

revamp the whole cast. They need to start fresh. I'm sure you've seen it. What's your response to that? You know, the grass is always greener. You know, let us just like, do our thing. We have some things in progress. We're figuring out a game plan to make everyone happy. But, you know, Summer House is always going to stay true to Summer House and it's going to be about partying. Sure. And that just means like I won't be able to do it forever. Yeah. Like, I should have quit five years ago. Speaking of quitting, let's talk about it. We talked business here. Pages built an empire, of course. I mean, do you think it was a good business move for her to make this move? Yeah. I mean, yes, she has so much.

going on. It's like she doesn't, not that she doesn't need the show, but she doesn't have to lean on the show for, you know, publicity or to be in the public eye or to, you know, be able to continue growing her, her own brand and her brands. So I think she needed, the girl needed a break. Yeah. And I respect that a ton. She has so much going. I think she sits in this chair. Exactly. Does she? Is this, I think this is that. Yeah. Okay. It is. This is so. Yeah, they, I mean, is someone who gets to see the industry from the forefront and behind the scenes, she's one of the most right now, like, demanded people to work with out there. So I can imagine how much she's getting pulled, as are you, by the way.

Is this surprising to you what's happened with Summer House? Yeah. It feels like in the last year, Summer House went from just transparently, like a... A silly little show. I would say like a geographically niche show. Yes. Like it was a New York thing. In L.A., they didn't know shit about it.

Like in the Midwest, no. Now, countrywide, people are talking about Summer House in a much higher level and much more engaged level than they are the Bachelor, which used to once upon a time be the show. Yeah. Is that surprising to you? Yeah. I think our show is what we call on the bubble for so long, whether it was like will it or won't it. Like, are we going to get another season? We don't know.

I think during the pandemic, people were looking for something to watch. Yeah. We were one of the only shows that filmed during the pandemic because we're literally locked in our, in our house. So people caught up on all the seasons, you know, during the pandemic. They were able to start watching, getting into it. And I think the past two years, it's really, I mean, this past season, it's really blown up. Huge. Like, so unexpected.

On TikTok, it's been rip it. People are shocked when I tell them I've been doing this for nine years. Yeah. Yeah. You're like, it hasn't been one. Wait a second. I thought it was just your first season. I'm like, no, it's been.

nine years of this and i i mean walking around new york people barely ever stopped me yeah recently i get stopped more frequently than ever i just went and got a haircut i got stopped three three different times like on my way to my uber yeah so yeah it's blown up it's yeah it's gotten really big and i never saw it coming last summer house question i got for you mentioned page sits there i was like are you holding my hand what's happening i need your help sister i'm loss of the press no but Paige sits over there. That means Hannah sits here, and it reminds me of, like, past cast members. If there were a couple people you could bring back onto the show, given all the moving parts that happens over the years, who are some of the past cast members you'd like to see back on?

Page. Not including Paige. Okay. I mean, we always talk about with love, I know Hannah would never do the show. I would love, like, you know, to have, even with Sierra too, that foursome. I think would be so strong and so iconic. You guys could have your own show. Yeah, for sure.

Maya, I miss her a ton. She was always, like, very witty, very fun, very straight to the point, very honest. I've actually seen, ever since Luke left the show, we still keep in touch with Luke, too. He's always, he's always building shit. I see it at the bar random. Yeah. You're looking good. You take it like, what's going on?

You're getting ready for some. He's also aging backwards. I'm like, him and Kyle. I'm like, what are you guys drinking? Kyle's like on it. No, it's insane. Kyle doesn't age at all. No, I'm like, I got to go get Botox and shit.

Like you said he rips. Like Kyle rips. No, it's in his jeans. It's ridiculous. But. So maybe Luke. Maybe Luke. Maya.

Yep. Hannah. Everyone loves Andrea. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And he's married now. He has his wife, Lexie. So it could be fun to see them even just like making appearance.

Yeah. Lexi, real quick, one question. How good of friends with you were? Lexie would. Yeah. that's a different lexie but like you said the word lexie how close were you before what was your question no so yeah no it actually is very warm no it's warm they have the ac up we're almost um no so lexie and i were instagram friends okay so we follow each other on instagram

we follow each other on instagram and we would comment on each other's post all the time and it was like oh my god this girl is so cute And then we met at an influencer event, which I never go to those. Yeah, you're not big influencer event, girl. I don't like socializing. Yeah. And if I'm not getting, no offense, if I'm not getting paid, I'm not going. But so we met at one of those and we sat next to each other at the dinner and we totally

hit it off. And then we took a bus ride home. It was in the Hampton. So we took a bus ride home that night. And we just like giggled the whole time in the bus, drinking grose together. And I had mentioned Summerhouse to her. and that was two years before she got ended up getting casted okay oh wow so i didn't even have any hand in her coming on the show yeah she that happened organically and then so she reached out and she

was like hey i'm joining summerhouse and i was like amazing so we'd only met once and we were like instagram so it wasn't this strong friendship no because a lot of when i did again i put out i always like to put it out to the listeners and see what they say and a lot of them were asking about the relationship before and after it feels like it wasn't it's it was a instagram friend thing Yeah, absolutely. All right, we're going to wrap with this section, and then we're done. We're going to get your trading secret. We have to touch on it.

Everyone wants to know, love and money, you and Kyle. Yeah. Like, do you guys have any type of systems or anything that you do? You both have big incomes coming in. You got equity in different businesses. You have all this stuff going on. Like, how do you guys manage it? How do you split bills?

Do you have any hard rules? Any advice out there for people that are, like, in that world, splitting bills with their significant other and things like that. Yeah, so one thing that Kyle and I do, we have, separate bank accounts. Okay. We do not have, we never combine bank accounts. We have separate bank accounts. We always have. I don't, maybe one day when we have kids, we'll figure that out, but like right now it's just easier to keep it separate. Yeah. That way he can spend his money on what he wants to. I can buy my things and he can't say anything about it. A little $15 thing. My $15 in my bag. Yeah,

exactly. He's like, what the hell are you buying? It was like, it's not your money. It's none of your business. stay away but you know he pays rent and the bills and then i'm buying like i've decorated the whole apartment i was making a lot of those big purchases i do all the food like everything else that's around the apartment i'm purchasing so we sort of work it out that way cool yeah that's great you gave one piece of advice for people to highly consider a pre-nup knowing what you know now like living together and all the businesses and like working all in that is there any other piece of advice you give to anybody as it relates to just like money management maybe something you would have done differently? I always, I think the biggest thing is if you can keeping your account

separate. I always thought I was going to have a very traditional lifestyle. Like I was going to get married. We were going to have one bank account. He was going to go off at work. I was going to stay home with the kids. I was going to have his credit card, spend his money. But there's something very powerful if you're able to about like having your own money and just having your own account. And even if it's not a ton of money just like having your own income and your own account in some capacity just having your own you know individuality it's like a safety net too yeah i love it well amanda we have talked to all things here from your life before the show to swiffer sweep and mop deluxe to the dogs to summer house to all the things all the different moving parts a to z

To La Boo-Boo's, La Foo-Foo-Foos, the Lexis, the pages, all the things. So thank you for coming on Trading Secrets. Of course. But as you know, we got to wrap with a trading secret. So I'm actually on my plane right here, I'm like, I wonder what's Amanda going to bring to the table today? So what trading secret you got for me? What can you leave us with? I asked Kyle and he left me a voice memo.

I asked Kyle. I asked Kyle and he left me a voice memo. What did you ask him? What should my trading secret be? Okay. When did you ask him this? This morning. What did he say?

back. You want me to play it for you? He left you an audio note. No, you left me a legitimate audio note. I cannot wait for this business breakdown. Here we go. This is Kyle Cook slash Amanda's trading secret. What do we got? Every brand wants to have a lifestyle component. Every brand wants to be community built and community focused. As a public figure and kind of quote unquote an influencer, there's a very unique opportunity to do just that. So, with Amanda Swim, Amanda Batul Swim, I literally built it in the public eye. I tapped my community and I built the brand based on real-time feedback. And every company wants to be nimble in addition to being community-focused and lifestyle-driven.

But if you can actually react in real time and take feedback into consideration when you do your next drop, et cetera, et cetera, you have an opportunity for not only people to feel involved, but for people to feel like they're kind of buying in because they're watching you not only build in real time, but also respond and react in real time. That was pretty good. That was pretty. That's my trading secret. So that's a trading secret. Give us one little tap on that. Give us a little cherry on top. How would you add to that? No, it's all about community.

I think that the strength that I have is, like he said, being able to tap into your community and get feedback real time and make those changes and, you know, leverage my community and the platform that I've been given. I literally created swimsuits based off of people's feedback from my first drop. Yeah. And I think that that's huge. I love it.

You are, there are, there are people out there are like, a star, they're a star, they're a star in their own way. You're such a unique star. Like, you really are, and you're blowing up. It's fun to watch. I told my mom's always a big Bravo person. Someone up for Bravo, I have to tell her. The first thing she said was she said, she is someone that just exudes class, and I love that. Oh, that's so sweet. She clearly hasn't watched the show too much. But she sees you on Instagram. Oh, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We can't wait to watch this season, and we will stay tuned to everything you have going on. Yes, sounds good. Tell us, like, where can people find it?

everything. At Amanda Batula. Okay. And at Amanda Batula Swim. Okay. And at Drink Lover Boy and at High Flower Boy. And I think that's it. All the things. Make sure you check on Amanda Batula Swim, too. The pieces are awesome. You're killing it. Amanda, thank you for being on

Trink Secrets. Thank you. money, living the dream.