Trading Secrets - 243. Kordell Beckham: Love Island Season 6 winner goes from $21/hr at an airport to millions, how he has navigated his unique career path, pursuing acting goals & carving his own lane

Episode Date: July 14, 2025

243. Kordell Beckham: Love Island Season 6 winner goes from $21/hr at an airport to millions, how he has navigated his unique career path, pursuing acting goals & carving his own lane This week, ...Jason is joined by reality TV personality, model, creator, and a rising name in his own right, Kordell Beckham! More than anything, he is carving out his own lane and bringing authentic energy to everything he touches. You may recognize the last name, Odell Beckham’s brother, but make no mistake, Kordell is writing his own story. He gained recognition in 2024 after joining season six of Love Island USA, where he and his partner Serena Page came out on top as winners of the season.  Kordell reflects on life after Love Island, from the biggest changes he’s experienced since reality TV to finding his own identity and giving back to his community. He shares how he went from working as a UPS ramp agent to chasing modeling and acting dreams, the process of getting cast on the show, and why Season 6 has been such a hit. He opens up about his love for Cheez-Its, pricing strategies with his team, why he’s not on the spin-off, and his vision for a future in scripted TV. Kordell also talks relationships—his connection with Serena, lessons from the past, and what makes a partnership work—plus the mentor who shaped his Love Island journey and more. Kordell reveals all this and so much more in another episode you can’t afford to miss! Host: Jason Tartick Co-Host: David Arduin Audio: John Gurney Guest: Kordell Beckham Stay connected with the Trading Secrets Podcast!  Instagram: @tradingsecretspodcast  Youtube: Trading Secrets Facebook: Join the Group All Access: Free 30-Day Trial  Trading Secrets Steals & Deals! Boll & Branch: Boll & Branch sheets can help you truly unwind with a softness so extraordinary, your whole body relaxes into sleep. Get the best savings of the season during Boll & Branch's Annual Summer Event! Get 20% off plus free shipping on your first set of sheets at BollAndBranch.com/tradingsecrets. Thrive Market: Between vacations, errands, and everyday summer chaos, sticking to your healthy goals can be tough. Luckily, Thrive Market does the hard work for you. Stock up on smart this summer with Thrive Market! Head to ThriveMarket.com/tradingsecrets for 30% off your first order, plus a free $60 gift just for signing up. This Is Small Business Podcast: If you're building something, dreaming big, or just constantly thinking about your next move... I've got a podcast you need to check out. It's called This Is Small Business hosted by Andrea Marquez, and Season 6 just dropped. If you're plotting your next move - maybe launching that side hustle, scaling a business, or pivoting hard - go check out This Is Small Business. UpWork: If you're running a business right now, you already know it's hard. Tight Budgets, hiring freezes, economic uncertainty is just the beginning. Good news: Upwork is helping small businesses do more, with less. Perfect for businesses on tight budgets, fast timelines, and zero room for error, when visiting upwork.com/save to get a $200 credit after spending $1,000 in your first thirty days.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to another episode of Trading Secrets. Today we are joined by a reality TV personality, model creator in a rising name in his own right. But more than anything, he's carving out his own lane and bringing authentic energy to everything he touches. You may recognize the last name, Odell Beckham's brother, but make no mistake, Cordell Beckham is writing his own story. Cordell gained recognition in 2024 after joining season six of Love Island USA, where he and his partner, Serena Page, came out on top as winners of the season. We're talking about life in the spotlight, personal growth, social media, reality TV, and what it really means to stay grounded when the world's watching. So grab your headphones, settle in, and let's get into it, Cordell. Thank you so much for being on Trane Secrets.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Thank you for having me here. Let's go. Let's do it. I'll tell you what. I told someone I was having you on. You know what they said to me? What they say. They're like, damn, do you know him and Serena are like literally like the royalty of reality TV right now?
Starting point is 00:01:12 Well, that's crazy to put that title on us, man. Yeah. We're brand new, you know? You guys are brand new. The royalty now. Yeah, I'll take it, though. How does that feel, though? If you think about like where life was about a year and a half ago versus where it is today, like, what has been the biggest change for you?
Starting point is 00:01:26 Bro, just. honestly everything, the opportunities, living, financial things, and just things that I can do with my audience, with my, what you call it, social media and stuff like, recently I've been able to do a lot more with the kids and stuff like that give back. Like, not too long ago, I had went to Dallas and me and my cousin, she does this. She's been doing this for 15 years. Yeah. And toys, it's like a toy drive to the hospital kids. And I was able to participate paid and used my platform to promote it and get people to donate to the hospital and stuff like that. And they donated like a lot of toys. And when I got there, I got some myself too.
Starting point is 00:02:07 I had brought some and handing them out. And like all the kids, they came. They're happy and stuff like that. So I just feel like that's probably the biggest change that I'm able to do that because I've always talked about it. I've always said like, man, if I had the opportunity, first thing I'm doing is something for the kids, you know. So that's what I did. And it's crazy. That's cool, man. Like the impact that you're making with the platform that all came from reality TV. It's kind of crazy. I want to jump into like life a little bit before the reality TV. Let's do it. All right. Life before. Right. Crazy. I mean, we've seen, you know, your brother, Odell Beckham Jr. He said recently in an interview, he's like, the amount of people coming up to me now saying, you know, you're Cordell's brother, right? Like how things have changed. So there's been obviously like a massive change for you. But growing up and thinking about career and also seeing your brother's career. I think a lot of people listening to this deal with some kind of imposter syndrome, some kind of identity, just something in general that they're dealing with that might be like they feel like they're being
Starting point is 00:03:06 overshadowed either by family, competitors, or just life. Did you ever feel that before you had this big pop? You know, I'm going to be completely honest. In a way, yes and no. So now I've always been proud of my brother. I always looked up to him and I always was trying to follow in his footsteps. but you know as time as I got older I realized like I'm in the shadow I'm not in my in my own lane right now so I've always tried to find a way to reach out side of that shadow
Starting point is 00:03:38 to where it's not behind him and it's on the side of him and we can like be out there together type stuff and yeah man I'm not going to lie bro like I back in the day I did the football I tried to follow in his footsteps you know and it didn't work out you know I got hurt which caused me to stay out for two years and then i tried to get back into it and it's just like once you once you've gone for two years off that injury it's like you really don't even want to try to go full because you don't want to risk that again you know what i mean yeah so yeah bro it's just it was it was different kind of trying to be in that same category but i kind of pushed out of that and wanted to make a name for myself in a different feel
Starting point is 00:04:23 which was the modeling. I started off with that modeling and then the acting, but, you know, I mean, I went through, I had to go through a lot to get to the modeling and acting and stuff, and which led me to the opportunity of the reality TV show. But, yeah, before then, are we still talking about like back then? Yeah, yeah, yeah, baby. So before I even did all of that, I was in between jobs.
Starting point is 00:04:49 I was, I moved to Dallas to be, UPS ramp agent. So we're outside, dealing with the planes. We're pushing up the, this is cargo stuff. So what we do is we have the carts and we have the dollies, right? And we'll connect like at least five of them, drive them to the plane, and then push them off the dolly. And we'll use a K loader, which loads it up.
Starting point is 00:05:13 And then there's like the people that's on the ground and the people that's on the plane. I was in between, so I would either be on the ground or on the plane. And we'll have to push the, and these things, they weigh about 2,000, 5,000. town. So it's about like six of us up there. And I worked when it was cold, real, real cold. But the thing is, you say like, oh, you'll be warm. You'll be good. It's the cold. You're pushing it. It get hot up there. Because you first, you got to layer up. Yeah. How much money you're making a job like that? It wasn't bad. I'm not going to lie. It was 21 an hour. Okay. 21 an hour. Well, I'm in Texas. So that's pretty good. That's pretty good. But out here
Starting point is 00:05:48 probably like, they're like 21 an hour. That's minimum out here. Right. Right. How long ago was that? This was, shit. Oh, you can try. Yeah, you're good. This was, dang. Let me see. I want to say, 2023. 2020.
Starting point is 00:06:06 So right before, you know, I'm looking at articles of the, I knew Cordell and TMZ is contacting you and you're talking about diving in the world of acting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you're saying two years ago, you were grinding by the airport, making $21 an hour. What did you think? Like, if you had to predict where. your life was going and where your career was going before Love Island showed up at your door. What did you think? What was the dream in five years from? I mean, it's still a dream,
Starting point is 00:06:30 but in five years from now, I was going to be a big TV star in the acting field, not in the reality. I never thought I would be doing reality. I'm going to keep a buck with you. That was the last thing. I'll tell myself I never do reality, but the opportunity came up. And I was like, why not? But yeah, I saw myself in five years being either one of the most top models out there or doing a TV series. Yeah, yeah, probably Spider-Man or something. I love that. Let's go. Before Love Island, did you, at this point, were you making any good money or did you have any good big swings, like, in the TV acting space or in the modeling space, or were you still grinding? No, I was still grinding. I didn't get a big, big swing. I did a
Starting point is 00:07:10 couple of gigs. I did some runways. I had my first runway debut. I did a couple of runway shows. some were pretty big one was like we did it in the Wyndham hotel okay which was pretty cool we had like a cape on and stuff it was tight I still have the pictures up on my Instagram yeah I was so cool but then I did like some little small commercial type of thing I played a frat guy the kids came in our frat and we they got dropped off to the wrong house and like who invited these kids yada yada yada and then I want to say probably like the biggest modeling thing that I did was it was actually on my birthday, too. It was a couple of shoots for the college, the HBCUs, and it was like the brand clothing for them. So I did. I did that. That was pretty cool, though. But yeah,
Starting point is 00:07:59 nothing like major like this. So you were grinding. You were grinding out. Now, how did Love Island find you? What did it look like? They reached out, man. Yeah. Just DMs or what? So I still had my management, my manager, Vivian. Got you. So as we were like working on my profile and building everything up you know that was my point of contact and apparently she told me like they reached out that was their third time the first time I was a little bit too young the second time which would have been season five I was actually still in a relationship and in college so it was a you know little iffy situation sure which which was cool I finished out my my year and all of that and then this last time was the perfect timing for it so like I had just broke up well my girlfriend
Starting point is 00:08:42 had just, well, my ex-girlfriend had just broke up with me and shoot out, I was single, you know what I'm saying, working. I didn't work at the UPS no more. I worked at the Cadillac dealership and I worked as an aviation as aircraft fueler. Yeah, yeah. Gotcha. I mean, that did, it's unbelievable to me. Aircraft fueler. You're working at Cadillac fuel. Oh, I was grinding. You're just grinding. Oh, I was grinding. And then your manager calls, you love Island. And then you end up on season six. And now I'm looking at the statistics here that doubled the ratings of season five. It's the most watched streaming original series in the United States. Many viewers, including US and UK, consider season six to be one of the best seasons in the show's international
Starting point is 00:09:17 history. And you go on and you win it. And not only do you win it, you end up with your girlfriend Serena Page, which is unbelievable. Now, one of the things that you had dealt with in that season was actually before I even go to that, I want to ask you this. I always ask my reality TV people this. Every reality show has a different casting process. And through the casting process, some people have crazy stories. My last guest was a Real Housewife in New York. she told me she took six shots before her casting video she was hammered and she just had the best time was there any like part of the casting process that threw you or a question or something that you're like that was crazy let me think because oh you know what it wasn't nothing that
Starting point is 00:10:00 they had asked me right but there was a part of the process where we had to do 960 something questions what like a psych test yes a site test so and then there was an additional 600 questions. You had to answer 1,500 site questions to go on Love Island. Yes. What? With the site person in there. Watching you? Watching you? All 1,500? Yes. That's insane. So it took about five hours. You know, so I'm sitting near them. And then if you like put something, they'll call you back and ask you, hey, is this what you meant? Like one time I think one of the questions was, I'd be seeing stuff. And she thought I was going like, I meant as in, like, schizophrenic or something.
Starting point is 00:10:43 I just meant like visions, as in the goals, you know what I mean? You know, you get to the visions. You're like, oh, yeah, that's what I'm going to do. Yeah, she thought I was. Seeing dead people. Yeah. I love it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:53 I'll never forget when I got into, for the bachelor, I get in the, you get a hotel room, and they put down the psych test in front of you. And ours was like 300 questions. And the first thing I did was I called room service, and I said, I need a six pack of beer right now. I got beer, it just started hammered. So I couldn't imagine if a psychologist was watching me. business owners when opportunity knocks do you have the capital to answer rock financial helps small
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Starting point is 00:12:00 bit with was like, well, what's your plan? What's your career path? Like, what's it going to look like? Yeah, yeah, my long-term goals. Well, your long-term goals. And so when she asked you that, like, what were some of those things you were feeling and how did you feel you answered. Obviously, we got the big cheese at line.
Starting point is 00:12:14 We know that. We'll get into that. It's so funny because when she asked me that, I did not think of a goal situation. I thought she was asking me in a relationship sense. So that's what I was like, what do you mean by that? Because I was like, all right,
Starting point is 00:12:27 this is our first conversation. You're asking me about relationships, though. Which I didn't mind. I was just trying to figure it out. But she meant my goals in life. So, yeah, I started off with the cheese. Well, the first thing I did say was the acting for sure. And then partnerships, brandings, you know, the cheeses.
Starting point is 00:12:44 I dropped a couple they probably couldn't put in there, but I definitely cheese it was one, Cadillac was another. And it was like a bunch, a bunch more I dropped that. I'm actually, you know. Did you do that intentionally trying to hope to get a deal? No, no, no. She asked the question, you know, I just, that's always, it's so funny because you got to ask any of my friends, any of my family.
Starting point is 00:13:04 I always told them, if I ever make it in life, I will have a cheese dispensary in my house. and I stand by it and shoot we're currently probably going to work on getting me one of those in my house so I can have a little dispensary or I'll build it myself because I know how to I'm handy I'm pretty handy so I might how many how many boxes of cheese that do you think you go through on an annual basis if you had to guess on an annual basis oh thinking about it I'm where's my wallet kind of check it pretty empty let's see probably I would say probably I would say more than more than I'm gonna be realistic here probably 60 okay six nah are we talking just
Starting point is 00:13:45 boxes by three boxes three boxes a month you said yeah like if you had to just guess how many boxes all together throw the to go things in there that's a lot like 10 boxes a month nah a month nah at least like 20 20 okay so 100 you're doing wow you're pumping yeah all right that's a lot probably need to slow down we're doing like 250 boxes of cheese it's a year for you now you partner with cheese it's the 2024 cheese it citrus super bowl you got your face on a cheese it box title twice twice cordizzie cheesy bundle something like that it's a dream for you you said it was a dream when they come to you to partner how do you even know how much you're supposed to charge for you you're just making 21 bucks at the airport how do you know you're supposed to charge for that i mean you you know you you just got to know you're worth in yourself right but you also got to kind of start at a reasonable price
Starting point is 00:14:36 to build a relationship because we started off at one, right? Because this is the beginning. And it jumped up and it kept jumping up to the other opportunities that I've had with them, which progressively grown, right?
Starting point is 00:14:51 So it's, and now, like, I have a set rate. You know, me and my team, we always, we talk and we sit together. We always ask, like, what's reasonable? And now we have our set price, but back in the day, back in a day, a couple months ago, So it was more of, let's not throw this crazy number out there just because of our impact influence, right?
Starting point is 00:15:17 Yeah. Still be firm on prices, but also still be reasonable enough to build a relationship because it can go to something more. Of course. Let me ask you this. You said you're at the airport, you're making 20, let's just call it $22 a hour. So that 40 hours a week, 52 weeks, that I just did the quick math, $45,000. $760. You make more or less with Cheez-It's than that. How about that? Way more. Cheez it alone, way more. Yeah. I mean, like, when you hear that, a year, a 40-hour working, you're making way more with you, like, on your dream. The dream has come true. I can't complain. I'm so serious. Like, this is the life. This is the dream. It's unbelievable. All right, we're going to get into that in a second, but from a Love Island perspective,
Starting point is 00:15:59 what is it about season six that has made it such a special season? Why do you think the ratings were so high and why do you think like does it have to do with you and serena like talk to me about that yeah i feel like it got a part to play with not only just me and my girl but also the the women's friendship the the ppg group the men and us the men and some of the well some of us you know we we've had a let's see a way of showing respect yeah let me respect for our women right okay sound crazy coming because of whatever happened right yeah but you know we we we have a way of, how do I put that? Like, because I already know what they're going to say, you respect, you did what you did at cost. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, literally, I asked
Starting point is 00:16:45 questions that people should cement. So why does Cordell say he wasn't dry hoping in CASA when we all saw in 4K? So, like, no matter what you say about CASA, that's what I'm saying, causes go come up anyway. But yeah, I feel like we had a realistic impact. You know, we didn't fake it. None of us faked it. It was, it was truly. authentic you know all of our feelings for our women were real the women's emotions the women supporting each other i feel like that's probably something they haven't really seen too often like true girls girls moments same with the guys the guys lifting each other up and stuff like that and obviously the drama you know it was a lot of that going on so you know they they loved it
Starting point is 00:17:29 They loved it, especially, like, I guess our docks scene had one of the most big parts to play on it. And to the point where they were, like, reacting the whole, it was a trend of them reacting the whole thing. And not only that, just like the one-liners, the women would have, like, that was probably one-of-the-bigest ones as well. You know, it was a lot of one-liners that probably they seen on TikTok that just, like, caught their attention. and was like, oh, I got to watch this. Oh, she's saying that, yo, let me go check it out. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 00:18:03 I think that's a good answer. Let me ask you this. It's a business podcast. You think about your season. There's one, you start a new project, and you could hire any one of them. Who are you going to hire? Who are you going to fire? If I, the cast members?
Starting point is 00:18:14 Yep, who you hire and who you fire. Okay. Ooh. All right. So if I had a big business and I had to hire one and fire one. Oh, you know who. Who's really big in business? Who's that?
Starting point is 00:18:29 Jenae Craig. Janay Craig. Jeney is a beast in the business world. Okay. She would get hired immediately. I love it. Who would I fire? Who would you fire?
Starting point is 00:18:38 Let's see. Who would I fire? Hmm. That's a tough one. I mean, who should I name, man? That's a tough one. Because I'm trying to think in a business aspect, who would most likely cause me to fail my business,
Starting point is 00:19:02 I'll probably say Cain maybe. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. I mean, yeah, you're being honest. Yeah. And why? How come? Because you're thinking about that. You know, I feel like in a way, yeah, he'll probably,
Starting point is 00:19:15 he'll probably go off on someone and probably be, it would probably be like a negative, not saying he's negative, but the customer would probably think negatively of it because he's so, he's honest. he's like a straightforward guy yeah you know what i'm saying that's how he from like london that's how they be out there you know they just straightforward they don't beat around the bush and a lot of people nowadays can't take that so i feel like in a way they would get feel some type of way about that and then you know go to what what do they do i'm young here they go on yelp or something
Starting point is 00:19:46 yeah yeah something like that and do a leave a review and yeah yeah that'll be the start you know what i mean that's funny kane would lead to a lot of negative one-star reviews I love it. All right. Let me ask you about this. You get off the show. You know, your career changes immensely. I got people saying in here that you guys are making millions. I mean, is that a fair? As your late life changed that dramatically that you're making now seven figures from this stuff? Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure. That's crazy. I mean, when I say that and when you say yes to that, what do you think? I read something that said, the organization in your house is a dictation of the organization in your life. And when we think about, self-care. I want you to think about something you could do to improve your self-care and a habit for you. The change is upgrading your sleep. Now you can do that with the softest 100% organic cotton sheets
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Starting point is 00:21:24 life is crazy you know what I mean did you ever imagine it would have happened this quickly no I mean I've had it in my head I always have a plan
Starting point is 00:21:34 I'm a hustler at the end of the day you know I get it from my daddy so I've always had a plan that I would touch my first meal soon just not as soon as I thought I would
Starting point is 00:21:45 you know what I mean and I'm just I'm blessed overall but that is a crazy turn of events to just you know make a looking back on where I was and now the profit is insane and you know yeah I don't even think much of it to be honest it's just like wow you know but let's not get distracted because I'm making
Starting point is 00:22:08 whatever they think I'm making you know what I mean stay focused on the main goal like try not to spend much if I spend make sure I'm spending in a sense of it coming back to me because you have to make money you have to spend money in order to make money. Of course. You're right. You said main goal. What is the main goal now? What does that look like? Mangold. Telling you, I'm TV, movie star. Still on that trajectory. Okay. Yeah. Now, going from... Then I will be making my clothing brand as well, too. But that's, I'm still doing a research because I've been talking with a lot of manufacturers. And it's just like, you got to make sure you go throughout the list, the line, to make sure you want to end up
Starting point is 00:22:47 with the right manufacturer for the clothing. So, okay, so clothing line, TV, Star. Now, you're already a reality TV star. The biggest question right now is the spinoff was just announced. Right. Now, to go, we've talked about it in this podcast at links. We've had actors on. We've had reality TV stars. Right. People know it's really, really hard to go from unscripted to scripted. So right reality to being in TV scripted work. Is that one of the reasons that you are not on this spin off and or there's another rumor out there that you might be on another show called Traders? So what's your response to that? Okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:23:25 So technically, yes, that is one of the parts to play because I do know that once people start off in that reality TV world, they can't get took out of it. You know what I mean? As much as they try, they always gravitate back to that, you know, TV reality part. So I've tried to branch myself away as early as possible so I can focus on the main goal to branch out through
Starting point is 00:23:51 real scripted TV and scripted movies, you know what I mean? Now, I'm not doing the traitors. That is hilarious. Have you heard that really? I have. I've seen it. I see everything. I see everything. I see everything. I'll be seeing it on TikTok. So once they dropped it, they were like, we're a cordial, where crudele? And then a couple of minutes later, I was like, oh yeah, he's doing the show on traders. And I was like, did I know about this? Did I get hired for that? Whoa, let me find out. But, you know, I'm not doing the traitors. It was funny because what's his name? named Dylan Efron. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:23 He was on a Traders, and the rumor that came out, like, way before that. And he actually hit me up and was like, hey, are you actually going to be on a Traders? I heard that. And I was like, no, no, that would be cool, but no, no, I'm not, you know. But I am going to be on a TV series. Now, I can't talk too much about it. Okay. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:42 But that is also another big part on why I can't feel because I don't want it to cross. The world's a crossover. Right. That makes sense. You know. Is that can you, and if you can't, wherever I'm overstepping, just tell me to shut up that. I don't know. You're good guys.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Is the TV series scripted then? So it's not. It's not a. So you're now going into your lane that you want to be. Yes. So I am transitioning into that lane. I've been in class. I've been in my acting workshop.
Starting point is 00:25:05 I go to, I go to school. And it's Stella Adler. Okay. Stella Adler in Hollywood. How long are you studying for? Well, as long as I need to, honestly. I'm probably going to do all the classes that pertains to me or that I have to do until I fully graduate so it's going to take probably about a year or two to completely finish that but with that
Starting point is 00:25:26 being said I will still be going to school and working on like the TV show so yeah I don't even know if I could tell you when I start filming but it's it's soon really soon do you have like can you say as far as like a role is it is it a substantial role is it like a like how do you how would you yeah yeah yeah I would say it's I'm not the main guy yeah But I'm there. I'm there, like, pretty much. Well, I say, like, the main supporting character. I know I'm trying to get somebody.
Starting point is 00:25:57 That's a big deal. So, yeah, so I'm, like, there, but eventually I won't be there. You know what I mean? Okay. So. I like it. We've talked about a little bit about $21. We've talked about seven figures.
Starting point is 00:26:08 How does getting paid in the TV scripted space work? Well, I mean. Can you make? Can you make? I heard it's harder, right? Because you have to possibly go in the union and stuff like that. Like, what's that like? I mean, yeah, they do say that the pay is a little different,
Starting point is 00:26:27 but I'm in a position where now where I'm able to afford to be an actor, as my manager would say. Yeah. I'm able to do that. So that's perfectly well set. So you don't make that much money in acting, but you have other income sources that allow you to pursue it. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Until I'm at the point where I am making as much as I'm making with that in the acting world. So, you know, you got your step, you know, you got to crawl before you walk. Of course. So that's pretty much what I'm doing. You know, it's not going to be the biggest pay, but the opportunity is there getting out there and, you know, that reaching out to other people, which will eventually lead me to the point where I'm either in a lead role with I'm getting as paid as much as other people would get paid for, you know, the movie world or the TV world, you know.
Starting point is 00:27:18 No, I think it makes a lot of sense. interesting that you also said Dylan Ephron, because I see so many similarities. He's been on the podcast. Oh, yeah. And just having them in the beginning, like, talk a lot about how, like, he, he attempted to also follow Zach's footsteps, but then recognize, like, he really has his own special sauce, and he's got to tap into that. And it's obviously, of course, been a slower trajectory for him, but the trajectory hit. And it popped, right? Yeah. And he's killing it. And it reminds me a lot of, like, what you're doing, what you did, where you're at and where you're going, which is pretty cool. I want to talk about this. Everyone knows Serena. They love Serena. She's the queen. She is the
Starting point is 00:27:54 absolute queen. She is killing it out there. Absolutely killing it. What is it like, do you talk to me a little bit about being, I wrote a book on love and money. It's the relationship of careers, financials, and money in unison. What is it like being with someone who has such power, who is such a absolute boss, killing it in their field? Talk to me a little bit about. Talk to me a little bit about what it's like managing the financial and professional side of someone who has so much going on is absolutely crushing it oh shit man i love it like you know i love seeing my girl be out there doing her thing and i'll be like sometimes we don't we'll tell each other right what we have but sometimes we don't which is cool because i like to be surprised she's the type not to be surprised so
Starting point is 00:28:41 sometimes i just let her know or i just like let it happen and she'll see it she's like oh god babe what do you can tell me right but when i be seeing her do her thing out there i love it i support it to the fullest like 100% like bro that shit's crazy i've never been in a situation where my girl is out here like not just her but like both of us but my girl is out here doing the thing getting deals making these appearances talks not talk shows but like what do you call it when they speak hosting stuff and uh becoming a like a speaker or something like you know you go to her you speak to a college and all that stuff like a keynote speaker yeah yeah doing stuff like that bro and it's just like bro it's crazy from
Starting point is 00:29:25 from her going to what she was to being in the same same room as biance breathing the same air as biance that's crazy that's true i love it to the fullest like shit like that's insane that is unbelievable now you see a lot of it's it's really hard to have a relationship in the public eye with two people that are doing their own thing. And it's just challenging, right? I mean, a lot of people see it. A lot of people fail at it. I'm someone who's failed at it twice.
Starting point is 00:29:53 It's just the reality of the situation. Do you feel professionally that same support is reciprocated to you and your individual career? Oh, yeah. Oh, she's supporting everything. Like, shit, I think sometimes when I say things or I'll tell her about like a big opportunity that's coming up, like I got like some crazy stuff coming up, right? And I'll tell her about that. She'd be more excited than I am.
Starting point is 00:30:15 You know, me, I'm trying to keep it calm because I have this whole stick where either I get too excited or I tell too early and it just messes it up and nothing happens the way it's supposed to happen. Even when I try to plan stuff, I don't know. That's why I'm, I'm spontaneous. Like, I don't, I don't ever really plan it because every time I plan it, something happens or the weather ruined there. Anyway, she'd be so excited more than I am.
Starting point is 00:30:40 And I love it, like, she'd be teasing or she'll jump on me. me hug me oh my god i'm so excited like that's good that's big and i'm just sitting there like what do i do deserve this this life here this is amazing you know i mean just just that type of support not saying that i haven't had that support before but this support is way different like well technically i haven't had that type of support that's beautiful man that's beautiful that's beautiful that's beautiful i love it i'm so happy for you guys you guys are killing it and i think i mean what is the future look like i know she has like even on the show she talked about like put a ring on it before you move in.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Right, right, right. I mean, shit, you know. Figured out, you know. But no, no, no. Really, honestly, it's in there, though, for sure. I mean, I'm dating a merry. Like, I'm not, look, man, I didn't have my time. I know I say that.
Starting point is 00:31:29 I'm only 22. I ain't even turn 23 yet. Yeah. But it's so crazy to say that because I've been, you can only imagine. I've been everywhere. I've done everything. And it's like I'm at a position where
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Starting point is 00:33:03 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I always like, I'm pretty big on speaking stuff into existence. Yeah. Because the more you speak it out, the more. you have your your mindset to do it the more of that drive to get it done is activated in that brain that cranium right here you know what I mean so it's just like once you got that goal that set it's nothing that's going to change it unless it physically changes it let me ask you a little bit about that because you obviously had this vision we already talked a little bit about some of your ups and downs on the show but your overall arching like success story but I think one thing that happens in business and life in personal situations is you might have to earn trust back.
Starting point is 00:33:45 And so you had to earn trust back in your situation. What tips would you give for someone out there when they're trying to earn trust back? And what are some things that you think like you deployed that has made this such a great supportive and successful relationship with a great future ahead? 100% transparency and space. Interesting on the space thing. So transparency speaks for itself. Tell me about the space. Let me tell you about the space. So the thing is, right, when you know that you have to get somebody's trust back, If you did something wrong, you know you did it wrong. First off, be completely honest about it.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Don't go back and forth about it, da-da-da-da, right? But also, don't keep pushing the issue. You see what I'm saying? If you keep trying to plead your case, you keep trying to push it, that'll make that person back off because it's like you're not giving them enough time to think. You're not giving enough time to settle in. You know, you say what you say, you say your piece, and then you let them know, like, hey, when you have, when you're ready,
Starting point is 00:34:38 and you have the time, you're ready to talk, I'll give you your space, and let me know when you're ready. you know what that does is it gives them that time honestly a lot of people don't do that also which is not saying like it'll throw them off but it'll kind of throw them off because they actually have time to sit there and think instead of a a person pleading in their ear like I'm sorry forgive me take me back you know it was more of a hey this is what I did I'm sorry how can I make it up to you da-da-da-da-da I'll give you a space and you tell me what you want to move forward with this information, you know what I'm saying? So in a way like that.
Starting point is 00:35:15 I like it. Transparency in space. That's a pretty cool place to be. Another thing we saw on Love Island is, of course, you guys had matching outfits. Fashion is a big place for you. You already talked about your business going on. I got to ask you, man, I see your outfits. I'm like, and I just can't help it. It's where my brain goes. I'm like, dude, how much you spend on these? You got the most sickest outfits of anybody. Like, how much you spend on clothes? Man, I don't spend too much. Like, some of my, bro, it's so easy. It's so easy. easy how I do or you know sometimes I work with my my stylist so he'll also pull things yeah but when I'm on my own right how I do is if I see like a piece like this right mm-hmm you get one
Starting point is 00:35:53 what are we looking at for people I can't see it go to YouTube and check it out but just tell okay yeah there we got the pants okay so you find like one piece right yeah maybe it's one expensive piece and you build off of that one piece whether it's the shirt you build off the shirt or you build off the pants or you build off the shoes or you can build off your hair that honestly i'll be getting some of my shit from zara wow yeah yeah and it it's it's not about what you wear it's about how you wear it honestly so some of the things does not have to be expensive i have i have taste but i'm also i don't forget you know just because i got it don't mean i'm gonna spend it on some crazy stuff yeah you know i mean like i'm a i'm a i'm a do what i've
Starting point is 00:36:30 been doing but now i'm in a position where i can get like one little piece and then build it off for that. And Zara have some nice little, and a little fashion over sometimes I'll be throwing in on some fashion over, but Zara be having some nice pieces. And it's so funny because some of these manufacturers is the same as Zara. Like some
Starting point is 00:36:49 of your super name brand like places, companies, they work with the same manufacturers that make Zara clothes. So it's like they're all the same, honestly. But it's all about building it, piecing it up. So I'm talking about piecing it up. I mean, I'm looking at your necklace.
Starting point is 00:37:05 That's, I mean, that's not from Zara. No, no, that's not from Zara. Was that one of your big first purchases? What was your big first? Honestly, my big first purchase was probably my new apartment. Okay. As soon as I got out, new apartment in L.A. Then I went on to get it.
Starting point is 00:37:24 What else? The next big purchase was a car, which was my project car. So it's my first project car. It's the 2009 Cadillac XLR. Cool. It's actually almost done. I just got it wrapped. The interior just got done.
Starting point is 00:37:38 It's a convertible, but we managed to put some stars in there. Wow. Crazy. Can't wait to see you. Stars, you said? Yeah, so like, you know, in the Rose Royce, right, the starlight, and then they got some that shoot across. Yeah, you're doing that?
Starting point is 00:37:50 So they managed to do that with the top still being able to put down. My guy, Ed is a beast. Ed is doing it up. It is a beast with that. Like, I didn't think it was possible, but how he showed me was because it's like all connected through ropes and stuff. So he was like, well, when the top go down, we're going to put the ropes and on the sides of the part where the top goes down so it doesn't
Starting point is 00:38:10 like interfere with the top working yeah yeah yeah shit's crazy so I'm excited when it's all done you got to show it up oh yeah yeah yeah we got to see it all and it's not going to be done too I mean like it's going to be done I'm going to drive it but I'm also going to get the engine switched out of it okay the projects keep continuing just like your projects too you'll post on social media and I want to ask you about your social media you know your engagements off the charts your photos are like badass like you're always in sick outfits with with great photography work how much work right now are you putting into social media and what do you think the biggest misconception is of those people out there that look at your social media i feel like i'm not putting enough
Starting point is 00:38:45 work interesting not not enough work how come why do you feel that way it's because okay i'm not saying that i'm comparing myself to other people but it's so much other people out there yeah that post a lot of content like a lot and i'll go look at them and i look at me right even though i'm still getting a lot of a lot of um views on my profile and stuff like that i could definitely be doing a lot more but just with the certain circumstances of the the business world of things sometimes i don't really have you know time to do a little dance or you know something like that but i'll post a picture or you know once i have the time which is usually always late night i will probably post some all right if you're the kind of person who's always chasing growth whether
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Starting point is 00:40:13 Go check out, this is small business. Season 6 is live right now on Apple Podcasts or Spotify or wherever you listen. It's one of those shows that actually pushes you to think bigger, and you know I'm all about that. Random video, which they love on my TikTok, they always look forward to the random nights. should probably make a series out of that you should just do a random night series because they always it's always randomly at night and they got this little funny thing what they say they're like oh serena he's out again like like a patient out of the asylum or something yeah yeah if you get a patient out of the asylum doing your thing probably you'd have a good time it's interesting that
Starting point is 00:40:51 you're saying you got to put more work into the social even though your social is popping but you have so many you have so many things going on you're doing all the brand deals you're going to be the big TV star. You're on your way. Talk to me about this. Like, there's a famous line from Jim Carrey. Back in the 90s, he carried a blank check with him. And he's put $10 million in that blank check. Then he kept it in his wallet. And he said, I'm not taking this out of the wallet until I achieve this. And I'm going to achieve it in the next five years. And it was year four and a half. He got signed to Dumb and Dumber. And that's when he accomplished it. And that was like his way of manifesting. I know manifesting is big for you. So like when you look at your career,
Starting point is 00:41:26 you look at your dream, what's your dream dollar amount that you want to? to make a year in the industries that you're pursuing when you're like I dream that I'm going to make this much a year what is it 10 mil a year there you go 10 mil I love it and when you think about that obviously I can see you smiling it makes you proud to this date you've done a lot what's your proudest moment shit me my girl I'm not gonna lie like I'm not trying to be cheesy corny or whatever he's just saying that no no I'm so dead ass like that's probably The proudest moment I've had was, yeah, overcoming that obstacle with my significant other, my woman, and progressing into what we call something real, you see what I'm saying? I'm very proud of that.
Starting point is 00:42:19 And my patience, my patience, I'm super proud, I'm not going to lie, I always tell her this. And I've told a lot of other podcast people, like that Cordell that y'all have seen, I haven't always been like that. And, you know, it took some years to get to that point. And it took a couple of relationships to understand women and what they mean and, you know, how they feel and how to go on about it. Like certain situations, I wouldn't give them space. I would try to talk or I would try to like fix it right in the near or you know I used to get mad easily to where it's not a baby I understand let's talk about it more of a screaming match you know what I mean so when I look back on my previous relationships I actually thank them
Starting point is 00:43:13 in a way because they've made me the man that I am now to treat which is so crazy to say I'm so sorry to even say it like that yeah but in a way me being with them paved the way of my relationship with serena now you see what i'm saying because i've been through a lot and i didn't understand but looking back on it and coming into a fresh relationship and when the things happen it's a oh this is what happened last time this is where i went wrong last time not trying to say it in a sense about i'm just trying to say stuff to sound right yeah but you realize where you go wrong and you know you try not to make that mistake because you know how you lost that person last time and you want to make you want to do better for yourself and for this new relationship so you remember
Starting point is 00:44:11 what happened and the best way to go about it you see what i'm saying if that makes sense no i think i think for you know as someone who's in their mid 30s like to hear a 20s like to hear a 20s and 22-year-old going on 23, sit here and say, like, something with such maturity. I mean, like, that is maturity of, like, a 50-year-old or, you know, it's just, it's beyond. Because, you know, essentially what you're saying is, like, I've, people have seen a good side of me, people have seen a side that I want to improve. I may have been, you know, done dirty. I may have done dirty.
Starting point is 00:44:44 I'm not the perfect human being. Sometimes I haven't been treated as the perfect human being. But I look at those experiences and I don't have unfinished. business like because those experiences made you who you are and like that is the definition in my opinion of growth it's like you look back at your past find the silver lining at all and through that be able to move forward with like such grace and when you do that that's how you end up with this arena winning season six of Love Island and having the life that you're having so I think the maturity is like way way beyond your actual years and that's like really perfectly said so I appreciate
Starting point is 00:45:19 like that. And I just hope that it didn't sound bad as if I'm bashing my ex's because honestly, you know, nothing, nothing wrong with them. You know what I'm saying? No hard feelings or anything. I hope that didn't sound bad. But they did pave away for my current relationship. So I really appreciate them. I just hope it don't sound rude or anything. I don't think it sounds rude. I think it sounds your life experiences instead of holding anger, frustration, instead of bashing them, you're holding grace for it. You're holding grace. And not many people do that. So I think that that's a beautiful thing. Before we wrap, I've got to ask you, trading secrets, and we do have a lot of Love Island fans.
Starting point is 00:45:55 What is some trading secrets behind the scenes we might know? Like, do you feel it all like there's a little, like, something that we might know maybe about producers or anything that happens behind the scenes? That's interesting. Give me something. I'll give you a little secret on the producer side. There is a couple of producers in there. Yeah. And they really care for you.
Starting point is 00:46:11 They will take you to the side, and they will walk with you and have a heartfelt conversation. Ask if you're okay. I've had a producer literally taking me out of the set and walk with him. Lately, I've been trying to clean up the way I shop for groceries, not just for my mental health, but also for my budget too. I'm getting tired of standing in aisles, trying to read every ingredient label, only to end up overpaying for a few healthy items at my local store. That's when I gave Thrive Market a shot.
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Starting point is 00:47:50 Sure. Wow. Yeah, we talked about that. You know what I'm saying? We used to brush the mic pack. Yeah. Move the mic pack and we're walking and we're having like a real heartfelt moment. His name was Quest.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Real love him to death. That man, I want to say, yeah, man, that man there probably is one of the biggest. I want to probably say the biggest reasons of my. how do I say it he had a big impact in everything you know what I mean and it's just a sense of having someone to talk to with and understand a side of point and having someone to actually tell you where you went wrong yeah I love people like that like keeping 100 with me yeah when someone always keeps it 100 with me I don't never be like mad about it you know I respect that to the fullest because I would I'm always 100% with someone I would rather them
Starting point is 00:48:48 be 100% with me like tell me if I'm in the wrong you know because I'm like my how my friends work how we work we'll let each other know if we're in the wrong or if you know I'm saying like if you need to do something about that you know and in a way you know he has some real heartfelt moments and told me where I went wrong and what are you going to do to make it right you know don't ask me what should I do it's about what you can you do what should you do to make this right you need to think about that because you know what you've done right now you need to figure out how to fix it yeah in a way without trying to you know give me the answers which i really appreciate because that right there made me sit with myself and
Starting point is 00:49:33 try to understand how am i going to go about this until i figured it out 100% transparency you know keeping it honest and space and space and that's that's when i when you know i sat there and i'm like okay no i need to tell her everything everything that happened and people don't know this but the moment i got back i told her everything wow and when i say everything i mean everything everything so y'all didn't even see that stuff because they probably couldn't have enough time to put that in or probably because I'm saying a lot of stuff they probably don't want in there not saying some crazy stuff but just like of things that I've done that I know I did when I kiss this girl how long it happened was it the first day was it the second day did we go into bed
Starting point is 00:50:26 together the first day did it stuff like that you know so the fullest detail to the point where I pretty much gave her a movie night you see what I'm saying not saying that I knew about movie night because I don't even watch this shit so I don't know nothing about it but when we watched a movie night that's when I realized like oh shit this is pretty much what I did like I told her this and I didn't know they were even going to do all that you know until people were like movie night moving on like what is that which I already been told or everything before everybody was like movie night which I didn't care about that stuff because my main focus was making things right with the person that I want to be with that I see myself with you know and that I can
Starting point is 00:51:04 say that I can see myself with in the next 10 20 30 40 50 years you know what I'm saying 100% So yeah Yeah and I think Shout out the Shout out the place man Yeah 100% I think what's cool about that
Starting point is 00:51:13 Is the story Is actually a testament I think to the show And the producers Because like what I'm hearing Is yeah People talk shit about producers All the time
Starting point is 00:51:24 Oh they manipulated this Right I hear Is that there is a producer That served as like a mentor to you And was like hey Let's talk life here man Like you want to do this
Starting point is 00:51:32 Do this right Like this is how you do this There's plenty of producers in there Yeah yeah yeah But we can keep a part where We were still walking and talking We keep that in I don't mind all that
Starting point is 00:51:41 Because like that's That's the real aspect of I mean shit If he wasn't there I probably lose my mind My Marble was trying to get her back Or trying to It's just like having another
Starting point is 00:51:52 He was like a brother You know what I'm saying Like having having another man A grown man Like he's probably your age Like another grown man Mind you I'm young Yeah
Starting point is 00:52:02 So having another growing man That's experienced And that's been through This type of stuff because we talked about, like, his whole situation that was kind of similar like this. You know what I'm saying? He still didn't even tell me what he did.
Starting point is 00:52:14 It was more of a sense to the point where he still is making me find out what I need to do. And when I done it, that's when we went to the back again and we walked and he was like, and that's what you do. You know what I'm saying? That's exactly what you're supposed to do. And a lot of people are afraid to do it
Starting point is 00:52:31 because when they tell the truth, they're afraid that that might push their partner away. because, you know, obviously they're getting told stuff they don't want to hear. Truth hurts, but it also heals as well. You see what I'm saying? 100%. That's good stuff. I love it.
Starting point is 00:52:46 It's awesome. It's good stuff. It's deep. It's your wise, wise, wise beyond your years. And it's fun to have you on trading secrets. I got to wrap with your trading secrets. Yeah, yeah. Before I do, I didn't even ask the question.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Now I feel I've got to ask it. Come on. I mean, I don't know if you can tell me how much does that necklace cost? Oh, no, man. That thing is dope. This one, it's like, all right, I got it cut. so they do have it on their website where you can get it a cheaper version of it how much is the cheaper version probably like 400 that is so sick so you can do that insured
Starting point is 00:53:17 huh do you get insured yeah yeah you have a whole authentication card and all that that they send to you yeah so they have a customization part where you can do solid gold and your selective diamonds so you got your all your selective diamonds yeah you can have it the same way or you can actually have a custom version yeah you see what i'm saying yeah But I just stuck with it because I liked it. But I wanted a little, you know, you know what I'm saying? You got to treat yourself every now. You might have to not only do a clothing line.
Starting point is 00:53:44 You might have to do a jewelry line. You know, that's a good idea. You know what I mean? That is so sweet. This one was probably the most that I paid for, though. Wait, that one was more than the necklace? Oh, yeah. Wait, why?
Starting point is 00:53:55 So this is. I mean, I'm looking from a doubt. I don't mean to offend. I'm just the necklace. It's the. So that's paper. I got to clean it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:01 But it's the quality of the diamonds that that has it. This is like the highest clarity of the diamonds right now. How many diamonds are on that? Shit, hell if I know, it's a lot. And it's rose gold, rose gold and white gold. And rose gold is a pretty expensive gold. That's like when you do it in solid gold, you probably know about gold and stuff. So that solid gold of rose gold, you got your white, yellow gold, regular gold, and rose.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Rose is usually always higher unless it's a platinum. You know, platinum always go higher than gold. Hell if I know why. I still, hey, if I figure that out, I'd probably get him to. platinum business i like it but yeah so it was yeah it was a custom piece as well highest clarity of diamonds and solid gold you got you got a million bucks in jewelry on nah no no i ain't going that far you know i wouldn't spend i wouldn't spend you know people be spending like 10 20 30 thousand hundred thousand that's not me yeah yeah yeah not on no jury well you
Starting point is 00:54:58 said 400 yeah 400 000 yeah yeah okay okay i got you all right anyway you look good that's all that matters. It's you're the man. I hope you come up with a jewelry line, too, because you've got it all going. I should get a custom spider piece that, that'll help you manifest the Spider-Man role. There you go. Hey, there we are. All right, let's wrap with this. Your trading secret. So it is your only trading secret. You can't get it from a professor. You can't get it from someone TikTok or anyone else doing a tutorial. It's specific to your finances, your career, your life. It could be a motto. Cordell, what can you leave us with? You got to take those risks. in the business world
Starting point is 00:55:34 I'm not going to lie In the business world Those risks If you take those It either make you or break you And you can't be scared To take that risk Because you never know where to lead you
Starting point is 00:55:48 You never know where to take you And one of the biggest risk I took Was Taking my ass on a flight to Fiji to fall in love Right Which fall in love We quote Until we get there
Starting point is 00:56:01 and we actually fall in love, which is crazy as fuck, because I didn't think I was going to go in there falling. I was like, bro, it's so funny. I was over there talking, I was already talking shit. I was probably with some of my homeboys and stuff. I'm like, yeah, bro, ain't nobody going on this show to find love. You know what I'm saying? This opportunity, I'm going to take it, you know, and see where it go.
Starting point is 00:56:20 But if I find it, I find it like, ah, you're going to fall in love. They know me, man. I'm soft. I ain't a lot. I love. I love heart, so they know me. But it was so funny. I love it, man.
Starting point is 00:56:30 I love it. Take risks. And I think, like, my biggest takeaway from you, Cordell is just like, you got, you got like a good thing in life where you go through what you're going through and you live in that moment right then, but you always continue to dream higher. You fall on your face. You get punched in the face. You make mistakes, but you get back up. You take ownership. You're transparent about it. You give people space and use space to grow. You continue to grow. And as a result of that, your whole life is growing. So that's my trading secret I got from you. Hey. Let's go. That's a great way to end it. Gets Cordell. Beckham, everybody. Hopefully this was another episode of Trading Secrets, one you could not afford to miss. Ding, ding, ding. We are closing in the bell to the Cordell Beckham podcast. And what a timely one with Love Island season seven finale just here. David, I know you're a big fan of the show. So I probably want to kick it off with that. At season seven, they have had a massive surge in viewership. We've seen it all over. It's trending A to Z. And the first two weeks of the season achieved over 1.1 billion and 1.6 billion minutes streamed respectively.
Starting point is 00:57:38 Specifically for the week of June 6 to 12th, the show garnered 1.2 billion minutes streamed across nine available episodes. I mean, that is just absolutely unbelievable, hard to honestly measure when considering all the moving parts. And it's hot right now. So David, Before we even get into this episode, I'm just curious, what's your take on the current state of Love Island in all society and streams and trends? Yeah, current state of Love Island is overall, it has just totally taking over as the measuring stick for reality TV shows. I think every reality TV show is now looking at Love Island as the gold standard in terms of popularity. And you, I mean, we see it in Paradise. like everything that Paradise is doing now and even previous they brought last season of Paradise
Starting point is 00:58:32 they did do the whole Casa Amor concept where they took the girls away and brought them to this house and had five new guys waiting for them as temptation so you see it bleeding in now the season of Bachelor in Paradise you're seeing the camera changes you're seeing a little bit dynamic changes so I think it's the gold standard of the show and having Cordell on for me who is a diehard love island fan like it reminded me of the wholesomeness of season six and season seven i think that they have kind of tried to keep it a little juicier maybe a little more racier i think they've they've they're they're teetering with losing the plot of levin a little bit um because they it has really been focused on a lot of like drama and things
Starting point is 00:59:16 like that and it's a little racier and a little raunchier um than normal but it's captivating viewers it's captivating audiences um there's been some good press there's been some bad press they've had two people kicked off the show this year for using some, some racial, previous social media using racial slurs, which has, you know, been picked up by the news and a lot of those things. But overall, it's been a, you know, I would say a pretty dynamic season and for some good and for some bad. So, I mean, I just got to say, I don't, I don't know how these shows with their background checks. They're not picking this stuff up. It's so simple to pick this up through. You can do, you can order, like, quick AI and quick, like, investigative people
Starting point is 00:59:57 to just do a scrub of people's socials to pick it up. Shame on them, but I'm glad they did end up finding it and getting rid of those contestants. What's interesting to me is I was talking to Susanna Summers, as you guys all know, Bachelor Data. And she was talking about Bachelor in Paradise ratings, which for the premiere were okay. Like, they weren't awful. I think it was about 1.8 million viewers or so, which was down from last season. But last season, of course, had the rush of golden and was in the fall. So comparatively, if you consider that, we'll see. You know, when I was talking to Susanna Summers, Bachelor Data, what she was telling me is she'll really be looking for key metrics after Love Island when they have two episodes per week to see what
Starting point is 01:00:41 kind of momentum is happening in Bachelor in Paradise compared to Love Island. But she said where she was surprised was the lack of social media growth in the Bachelor in Paradise contestants. I believe she sent this statistic and format to me. It was relatively close to a week after the first period. Let's say it was like four or five days after the Premier Paradise. And the person that garnered the most following after four or five days of the premiere was 3,380 followers, Jess Edwards. And after that, there's some, there's a couple people that garnered around 2,000 followers. But for the most of it, it was like 8,900, 500, 100, 160, some lost followers. I would say like just looking at the information she provided me, the average is probably around like
Starting point is 01:01:30 4,500 followers, which on Love Island, like in the statistics she was showing, some of these people were garnering 750,000 followers in an episode. So it is kind of interesting when you see the way Love Island is taking. taking over the societal norms, you see the billion plus minute stream, and then you also see the social following with it. It is now, it's now the show to, to watch, right? I mean, it just is. I mean, we're talking season six contestants here. Leah from season six, Jay, she has four and a half million followers from, from Cordell season, season six. And if you look at Cordell's girlfriend, Serena, Serena's got 2.2 million followers.
Starting point is 01:02:12 So these are what used to be record-breaking numbers from the Bachelor cast. When you look at the Tyler Cameron's and Hannah Browns of the world, you're seeing it in Love Island from a majority of contestants as well. You know, Love Island producers have also been coming out saying they messed up and casting. The season finale is tonight for Love Island. We're recording this on July 13th. No spoilers here, so don't worry about it. We're not spoiling it. I haven't watched it yet.
Starting point is 01:02:37 Who are you pulling for? I'm pulling for. I'm probably pulling for To be fair I think they got rid of the most genuine connection Which was Clark and Taylor And there hasn't been many genuine connections I think Iris and Pepe are probably going to win
Starting point is 01:02:55 I think at this point I do want them to win But now that people are coming off I do think this will be the most like chaotic Post reality TV show run With contestants wanting to spill tea Or set the record straight or talk about why the edit was the certain way, you're already starting to see it.
Starting point is 01:03:14 I mean, they are making the podcast runs. They are all over social media. They are trying to capitalize on the runway. And you're also starting to hear about just how many of these islanders knew each other previously. Some worked together. Some have been, you know, are from the same cities in the same circles and can't believe that so-and-so end up showing up on the island
Starting point is 01:03:38 because they knew them. So I definitely think Love Island is going to come back even bigger and better and true to their show from the season. Because I think it got a little sideways on it. It was almost like too big for their bridges. Like they got too big and too greedy and like it's starting to like lose its shine a little bit. Now what's interesting is we've heard Bachelor Data come on this podcast years ago and talk about the fact that, you know, other reality shows their contestants, her take was they were just. better at social media and they were growing faster as a result. When I start to look at this group of people on Love Island, and even Love Island beyond the villa, these cast members are really, really sharp
Starting point is 01:04:21 at social media and like the idea of defending themselves against what's happening with producers and trends and all their cuts and edits. Like not only do they have the billions of minutes watch, they have all the viewing, but they're damn good at social. So they're continuing to keep the show in the momentum that it's been. And I feel like that's going to have to start being like part of the process from a business perspective with some of these other shows. Because how do you keep up with this beast? And the second this one ends, boom, we know Love Island Beyond the Village comes up.
Starting point is 01:04:55 Like it's crazy. I don't know about you, man. My FYP or whatever for you page or whatever call it, it's all, that's all anyone's doing. It's either Love Island or it's people doing like things about Love Island. Correct. Yeah. It's an absolute wagon. And I think that they're good at social media. I think when you come off the show and you see the following, it's like, hey, I have to be good. I have to post content. I have to do this. Because if I'm not, like, as they all know, like they're missing out. And this is their new pathway to a new career. And, you know, Cordell talked a lot about how his life changed through his experience and, you know, his opportunities that have opened up. And yeah, it's just a, as we know, it's a real thing. But I think Love Island is like, it's just. on steroids right now. Like it just really, really, really is.
Starting point is 01:05:40 And it's one of those things. I've seen a lot of memes where, like, you know, people are like, when you're in line at a restaurant or in line at a store and you hear someone say Love Island, there are three, like, three people back. It's like you give them the side eye.
Starting point is 01:05:53 Like everyone just is itching to talk about it, to give their opinion, to hear what people think, to be team XYZ. It's really fascinating. I mean, they're filling up sports bars across the country. and sports are on the TV is crazy this reality show is i mean it's fucking insane but after nine minutes
Starting point is 01:06:12 of talking love island we got to get into cordel i mean great dude i mean it's so cool to talk to him hear his perspective to think about how far he's come from this show uh the curious canadian what's your takeaway yeah so my takeaway uh and hearing cordel in this space having you talk to him and knowing him from well thinking i know him i don't know him at all but uh on the show was he's exactly what I wanted him to be and what I what I loved about him is he seems so and is so incredibly genuine I think he's so incredibly thoughtful
Starting point is 01:06:45 I think his M.O. is just like and some of the things he talked about is like respect and care and attention to detail and selfless and in ways and honest and transparent and I can't believe how fucking young he is
Starting point is 01:07:01 when he said he's 22 22 23 years old he speaks to someone that has you know 50 years of wisdom under their belt um that stuck with me it's something that i don't think anybody from this season of love island has from a male perspective they don't have that grounded down to earth you know build my woman up put her first support her admit when i'm wrong like and self-aware i think the i think self-awareness takes so much maturity because ego always overtakes self-awareness and his ability at that age under that type of lens when, you know, his previous job was working in the airport. To take that kind of accountability, I don't know, man, I was so impressed with that.
Starting point is 01:07:45 At 22, that wasn't me, I'll tell you that much. Yeah, and how cool is it? We just talked about social media and Love Island, how people are taking advantage of it, and they're all over our FYP page. And here's a guy being like, yeah, I don't do, like, I need to, I should probably do it more. Do more. I'm not doing it more. And I could and I should.
Starting point is 01:08:02 And I, but he's, I just feel like he's the guy. If it's not genuine, he doesn't feel like right about doing it. It's not authentic. Like, he's not going to force something just because he feels outside pressure that he should, right? And if you look at his social, like, there are certain socials who people just kind of throw, throw shit at the wall. There's some people that just do the trends. Like, everyone's got their thing, right? His social is, like, pure artist.
Starting point is 01:08:25 Like, he's pure creative. Yeah. Like the, the, um, just the, the sophistication in, like, some of his photo shoots that he does, what he's, his style and what he's wearing and just the color schemes like it's it's very sophisticated creative artist mentality like very talented human and and i loved kind of his take that kind of resonated with our our friendship and our relationship when he loves he's talked about how he loves his friends like they keep it 100 with each other is what he said like he's like he just wants people if he cares about people and they care about him he doesn't want to be sugar-coded he's that's not how we
Starting point is 01:09:00 learns that's not how he gets better he talked about the producer on the show who was like a big brother to him he's like a grown ass adult that as a male that can tell me when I'm wrong they can tell me when I'm probably not thinking about things and like not be judged when I agree agree or don't disagree with with what
Starting point is 01:09:16 he's telling me in his perspective so I love that and I love like when you ask him how do you earn your trust back and he was like transparency and space I just thought his answers were perfect for that and it was just like bang up you know it was it was it was like yeah this guy's probably right
Starting point is 01:09:32 and he's patient and he believes what he's saying and he proved us right because him and Serena like you said at the top they're a little bit royalty right now like they remind me of like I'm probably blanking on their names Cameron and from the first season of Love Island who just kind of or not love is blind
Starting point is 01:09:51 no love is blind yeah yeah yeah how much they blew up and just like a genuine awesome couple that when you have a show like love is blind or you have a show love like love island you want to see two genuine people who ride or die and support each other and build each other up you want those people to be at the top uh you know loren speed and cameron hamilton yes those yeah like the absolute royalty of love is
Starting point is 01:10:18 blind yeah so that was my vibe from him um you know i just also like again like i i'm kind of going off on a little tangent about cordal right now but i i do love them i was so i've always you know how bad I wanted an islander on the show to get him was great and to just have him talk about the self-awareness and honesty about how living in his brother's shadow and he needed to find his own things so he could walk beside him and create his own light instead of walking in his brother's shadow is just like this guy's raw he's honest like he's not trying to hide from the shit and it's like made him who he is it's just incredible huge fan of his we're huge fans of the show maybe we'll see like a cameo and um you know beyond the villas with his with his show we know
Starting point is 01:10:59 that he got an acting role, which he announced on his social, which I think is so cool. Like, that was always kind of his dream and he's pursuing it and making it happen. And we know we've talked about this podcast, the difficulty in transitioning from unscripted to acting is so hard, but he's doing it. And the show's killing it. I mean, it's crazy to just see it all. Someone, you know, who's like, we've obviously taught, we have a lot of reality stars on here. We pay attention to, like, business trends of these shows to see what this show is.
Starting point is 01:11:29 was doing it it's crazy man it is it's awesome and from the post show like life of it all perspective at all i've never seen the competitive nature from people to get the as soon as an islander gets kicked off they're always on chicks on the office so i think there's some kind of exclusivity there and you know i think chicks and um nick vial have some kind of working agreement with um and you see and you see him doing them all by zoom which is different from them because they usually do all guess, but it's like, hey, the demand is there. We're doing it right away. I think it's really interesting. To see these numbers, 1.1 billion and 1.6 billion minute stream? And what I would love, what you said before, what I would love on top of that to prove it is
Starting point is 01:12:13 impressions. Like how many people are talking about it on social media, on TikTok. It would be, it would be insane. Crazy. It's crazy. I mean, yeah, we could go down a round. rabbit hole we might have to do a whole love island breakdown maybe have some other guests from the show on i'm sure we will actually um but in the meantime we got to wrap this up so you got anything else on uh i got i got one quick story for you that i didn't share with you um okay i want it i want a big time golf tournament this weekend uh with chris collins my playing partner to run a quix country club um the only reason i'm bringing it up jays because after the ceremony when I got the red jacket on
Starting point is 01:12:59 and I'm going around the club and I didn't get time to eat so I'm quickly trying to get some sushi on my plate one of the employees comes up to me and goes Mr. Ardwood congratulations on your win and I go thank you so much and goes by the way I love the podcast
Starting point is 01:13:12 and I was like wow let's go I'm like I'm thinking I'm like Jason's not here like what do you mean like she's like she's like your voice it sounds just like it does on the podcast so if you're listening I didn't get her name
Starting point is 01:13:24 but if you're listening to the awesome, awesome listener who works at Aeronacoit Country Club who was part of that amazing celebration. Shout out to you. That was like as surreal as winning the golf tournament. There's nothing ever being like, wait, you listen to us and you know my voice and who I am. That was so cool. She was so sweet. So I just want to give her a shout out.
Starting point is 01:13:46 I love that. Shout out to the Arandicoid Country Club is server, waitress? Yeah, part of the kitchen staff during the banquet. It's amazing. Well, shout out to her and a huge congratulations to you and Chris. I mean, to hear a little bit about that story, David drained a 60 foot putt to put it into overtime. He said one of the highest, just what was it, one of the best feelings of your entire sporting career, right? I mean, that's pretty cool.
Starting point is 01:14:14 I don't want to go into the weeds too much with it, but being a grown man getting to compete about something that's a passion, you know, golf is a hobby, but it's also a passion and to do it on a competitive level. and Ashley was there watching, and there's a couple hundred people, you know, coming down the stretch viewing, it tests the nerves. And it's like, you know, it's like our boys were being a couple of weeks ago. Just to be able to compete as an athlete was incredible. And in trading secrets, we always talk numbers here. I mean, it's crazy. I just found out that it was a five-figure dollar amount that you won for playing in a tournament.
Starting point is 01:14:43 Yeah. How about it? Our team went just over $25,000. So that does not happen on an everyday basis. So, yeah. That will help the guy who still has. and found his crypto, you know? Correct. Correct. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:56 I love it. I love it. Good stuff. Well, huge congratulations to you. A lot happening over here was just in the Hampton's back in Nashville. It was feeling a little sick, but we're back at it and have some very, very, very exciting stuff coming up and some huge guests. So you guys are going to be excited about that. But thank you for tuning into another episode of Trading Secrets One.
Starting point is 01:15:16 Hopefully you couldn't afford to miss. Making that money and money, living that dream. Making that money and money, pay on me. Making that money, living that dream.

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