Trading Secrets - 248. Juliana Pasquarosa: The Bachelor fan favorite breaks down her career in finance, embracing the 9-to-5, navigating life post reality TV, and turning a family phrase into the Nice Girls Label

Episode Date: August 18, 2025

This week, Jason is joined by Bachelor Nation’s Juliana Pasquarosa! Juliana opens up about life before The Bachelor - from leaving her broker dealer role just before filming to starting fresh at a wealth management and financial planning firm. She shares the reservations she had about joining the show, what surprised her most, and how she navigated relationships with fellow contestants after the breakup. Juliana reveals who nominated her for the show, the lessons she’s taken from balancing her 9-to-5 with the mental and professional realities of social media and reality TV, and the struggles she faced post-breakup, including where things currently stand with Grant. Beyond TV, Juliana discusses her goals for Nice Girls Label, the fashion brand she co-founded and self-funded with her sister, and what drives her to feel secure in every aspect of her life—personally, financially, and emotionally. She also shares her outlook on love and money, the future she envisions for herself, and which other reality shows she’d consider. Plus, a special guest appearance by Tyler Cameron rounds out the episode. Juliana reveals all this and so much more in another episode you can’t afford to miss! Host: Jason Tartick Co-Host: David Arduin Audio: John Gurney Guest: Juliana Pasquarosa Stay connected with the Trading Secrets Podcast!  Instagram: @tradingsecretspodcast  Youtube: Trading Secrets Facebook: Join the Group All Access: Free 30-Day Trial  Trading Secrets Steals & Deals! Indeed: Indeed Sponsored Jobs there are no monthly subscriptions, no long-term contracts, and you only pay for results. There's no need to wait any longer-speed up your hiring right now with Indeed. For a $75 SPONSORED JOB CREDIT to get your jobs more visibility at Indeed.com/SECRETS Square: With Square, you get all the tools to run your business, with none of the contracts or complexity. And why wait? Right now, you can get up to $200 off Square hardware at square.com/go/tradingsecrets Nutrafol: See thicker, stronger, faster-growing hair with less shedding in just 3-6 months with Nutrafol. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners ten dollars off your first month's subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code “TRADINGSECRETS”

Juliana Pascarosa, welcome to train seekers. Thanks for coming on. How are you, it has been, of everyone that we're having on today, it has been an absolute whirlwind for you, a quick sprint into the mayhem of everything. How are you doing? I'm doing good. Everybody's been so awesome here. It's been so fun. Like, life is just taken on a ride of its own, and I'm just buckled in. You're buckled in.

You are buckled in. And not only are you buckled in, but the one and only Rachel Kirkconnell's buckled in. She's behind us there. We love it. Another cameo. All right. So talk to me about life before you went on The Bachelor. What did it look like for you?

Career-wise and just all things. It was actually funny. I had just left my job of five years when I got the initial call for The Bachelor. What was that job? It was for a broker-dealer. Okay. So still in the finance world, and I accepted my new job with a wealth management financial planning firm, and I'm still with them, but it's been, I don't know, I think I do a lot of

the same things I did before, so it's just kind of like managing new things like this trip and meeting all these new people and trying to kind of just like make time for that as well. Before we get into that, tell me a little bit about what you do in wealth management. I work with the financial advisor who, of course, he does. asset management in a sense and wealth management, but he also has like a network of individuals where he looks at like your whole financial picture and kind of like incorporates everything. So, you know, we work with some really cool people, people who are really invested in like their future and just like want to know more about like their financial life and how things

kind of correlate. Sure. And yeah, so I'm kind of like I'm the point of contact for a lot of them. They'll call me to get to him and I'm like in charge of his calendar and his life a little bit, which is cool, and he's awesome, and Winthrop Wealth is amazing. Yeah. How do you have a job like that and then go on a reality show? Like, what did that? How did you ask them off? Oh, my gosh.

Yeah. It was crazy. I kind of sprung it on them a little bit. And I was just like, listen, like, my sister signed me up. I just got the call. They want me to go. And it was a conversation for a little bit. You know, at first it was, if you go, like, this job's not going to be here for you.

Sure. And then they took some time. And then they were like, okay, we'll give you like X amount of weeks. And if you're not back by then, we're going to fill your role. And then it was like, just go, we'll support you, we'll hold your position, blah, blah, blah. And they were so awesome that they even, like, helped throw a party for the first episode at my favorite restaurant with all my friends and family. Wow.

Yeah. All right. So they were supportive. They said go. Yeah. Did you have any reservations on going on the show? Totally. Oh, my gosh.

I mean, I am like a private person, which has been so hard for me to kind of, like, join this new space. Because I like my people. I like my life. But now I'm kind of opening. up doors and possibilities, so I'm trying to navigate that, but I also was single for so long, and I don't know if I want to date somebody that's in the public eye, mind you get engaged in front of everybody if that happens. And it happened, and I said yes, and it's just, it's so crazy. I mean, it's all such a weird situation, I think. I mean, just like the show, it's wild,

the whole process is wild. Yeah. It's a learning lesson. It puts your life in a different trajectory changes things a lot for you. When you're on the show, What was the most surprising? Like, what was the most unexpected things that happened or that you're surprised by? I think the biggest surprise for me was you think you put a group of 25 girls in a room. I thought there was going to be a lot more drama than there was. I think we all got along really well. And I actually left being, like, wow, I have, like, a bunch of new friends, which I did not think was going to be the case.

Yeah. I think that's, like, one of the best parts about it is, like, the camaraderie with everyone. Yeah. Did you know who The Bachelor was going to be before you went on or no? Yeah. Okay, so you guys knew. Yeah, I watched Jen's season to, like, judge them all. And then Grant was, like, number one on my list.

And then they announced him and me and my sister were like, what is happening? That's my man. There is no way, and it happens. Did you at all think, I feel like, in the beginning, it's like all fun in games. And then, like, as it starts getting down to, like, the final four, I felt like it gets serious quick. And those, like, friendships, like, kind of dissipation. a little bit. Did you feel that? You know, it's so funny

because I felt like I was getting some serious feelings, but I was also trying to protect myself and remember that like there are other people there. And I also wanted to make sure everybody like felt comfortable because it's such an uncomfortable situation. Yeah, yeah. So surprisingly

like me and Zoe, I thought at least from my perspective, got kind of closer towards the end. Even though you don't see each other, it's like at the rose ceremonies and stuff, we were hugging. You know, you say bye when they leave. And it was definitely weird. Litsia and I think had a good, like, relationship. Yeah.

Even just, like, filming and throughout the whole thing I felt like. And we actually weirdly got kind of closer towards the end of it. But, yeah, I mean, it's just so uncomfortable. And especially leaving when you're in my position and you're engaged, you're so focused on, like, fostering that relationship that you kind of, like, don't pay as much attention to your relationships with the other people. Right. That makes perfect sense.

Yeah. And so, like, now I'm. in this weird position where it's like I don't I'm not with grant and like not that I'm trying to have like new relationships with the girls but I'm trying to just like you know be a little bit more present in them sure you know yeah I think one of the hardest things too is you film you finish filming you get engaged and then there's that period of time that you got to be like undercover in relationship while going back to work while like living your life but then you got to like watch it all back was and I can't imagine watching it

back, be engaged to someone, like, watching them date other people. Was that hard on you? There were times. Like, in conversations that I watched, when, like, he would say certain things, I would get more upset with him because I'm like, you know,

do you understand the weight of what you just said to that person? Sure, sure, yeah. More as an accountability than being flustered because I knew that he was going to be doing that when I was filming. And, you know, I can't be upset with something that I agreed to do you know so I reminded myself of that a lot whether you're running a cafe salon boutique or something

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just go to square.com slash go slash trading secrets. We'll get into some of the stuff after the filming with just like life and career. Before filming, was there any other reality TV show that you had interest in or considered going on? No. No, this is the first. Yes.

Okay, so you put the application. How long after the application did they reach back out to you? So my sister actually submitted an application for me. She didn't tell me. Oh, wow. I don't know. I just got a call and they asked me if I would consider it. My sister submitted an application,

and I was like, I don't know, I think so. and I texted Dominique and I was like, did you sign me up for The Bachelor? And she called me freaking out. She's like, you gotta do it. This is crazy. Blah, blah, blah. And I was like, what the heck?

Unbelievable. I love it. All right. So then fast forward, you get engaged, you get off the show. Do you go back to work right away? I gave myself a week. Okay.

I gave myself a week to even just like get reaccustomed to like leaving my house and going outside and like being in the public and like driving my car. And just, I don't know. I was like so nervous to see people because, they had already announced that I was, like, on the show while I was away. Yeah. And I grew up in Newton, and I live in Newton, so I'm like, everybody knows me.

So it was like those conversations, I just needed a minute to be ready for them because I was still trying to figure out what the heck happened in my own head. Sure. So, like, how do I verbalize that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're just like, what? Yeah. And then I went back to work, I think, like, a week and a half later.

Okay. Did you think at all, so you go back to work and then all this, you know, the show pops off, your social pops up, all these things. what did you think about the career aspect of this? Like, what was your take on it? Is it an area that you want to continue to explore? Just what was your overall sentiment on like social media can be a whole different profession?

Yeah. I mean, it is crazy. It's like it happens overnight. People are all of a sudden interested in like what you eat, what you do for your workouts, like where you shop and all that stuff. And, you know, it's a learning curve for me for sure. I do really love what I do. And I love like the people that I work with and the company.

So I don't ever really necessarily think that I'll stop doing that. I think it's just a matter of trying to figure out how to, like, add in, like, new opportunities and things like this that, like, align with what I, like, how I want to live my life. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like, I'm not going to ever say never because I'm in my yes era. So, like, if things come my way, I'm just going to, like, say yes and do it. But there's just right now, I feel like my 9 to 5 feels like security.

It's like the one secure thing I have. There's a lot of chaos, a lot of mayhem, but you got the nine to five. Do you, like, if you look at, like, the earnings of social media, if you annualize it, are you making more off social media or in your career? Oh, they're pretty close, but definitely social media, I think, is like the trajectory. Yeah, interesting. And so even when you think about that, you're still like, no, I want the nine to five, no matter how fast it grows.

Yeah. Yeah. I just, I feel like I, I don't know, I like going into my office, kind of like putting my phone down. I think, you know, there's so much positive that comes out of social media, but there's also just so much negativity if you put too much weight in it. And I don't ever want to get lost in that. So I weigh it out, you know. Exactly.

I mean, there's always noise. There's good. There's bad. There's people that chirp. Like, what has been the hardest thing? And like, so now this is a career for you. Yeah. And now you go online.

And especially now post breakup, there's like a lot of, there's just a lot more noise. Yeah. How have you handled it at all on the mental aspect? Yeah. And then just even like the fact that like this platform is also a professional aspect. So how do you manage the mental side and the professional side of it? I am still working on that. I think emotionally I prepared myself at least before I even went to film on like all the possibilities of, you know, people are going to love you, hate you no matter what and they're going to have opinions on everything.

So I was prepared for that. And I really, like, have such a good support system of my family and friends that those are the opinions I've just, like, paid attention to. And they've been so honest with me about, like, oh, yeah, like, you know, maybe that wasn't the best thing to say when I'm watching things back and I'm hard on myself. So I appreciate the honesty because it allows me to, like, kind of tone down the negativity in my own head. Yeah. But, I don't know, the outside noise got real loud after the breakup. It got loud. Oh, my God.

But you know what I think, like, is someone who's, like, in this space, business-wise, personal side, too. It's like, you didn't step away. I feel like you stepped in. I feel like you, like, if there's, like, someone chirp in your controversy, like, you'll throw it to, you'll say you're, you're in there. You'll mix it up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't mess it, Julia. Do you agree with that?

Yeah, I think so because, you know, I think you just have to hold accountability to certain things. Like, there are certain things I read and I'm like, all right, whatever, you know. But some things I'm like, oh, absolutely. you will not be saying that to me, you know, or about me. Yeah. So there's, there's a line that I, that I draw, and I'll, I'll step on anybody that tries to cross it. You'll jump, you'll jump in the mix, you'll throw the hands up, you will throw down.

And what's funny about that, too, is people are like, oh, you know, that doesn't go with, like, your nice girl, like, aesthetic, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, there is a clear difference between being nice and also having boundaries and respect for yourself. And, like, I, I think I do both, you know, and you don't have to pick one side. You can be nice and kind and generous and loving, but you can also stand your ground and have self-worth and, you know, shut the haters down when you need to. Yeah.

Get in the mix. Do your thing. Yeah. And vocalize what you're feeling and how you're feeling, right? Yeah. I'm Italian. Come Italian. You're popping in there.

You've had breakups in your life, but then you have a public breakup. What has been probably the hardest thing or most eye-opening thing about the idea of, like, actually breaking up in public? Like, because now also you're still in the nine to five, right? So you got like your boss sees this, you're the people you work with, see the people that are clients see it. And then you also deal with like, you know, this bachelor nation world and then just people that are fans of yours.

Like how is that? And my family and friends too, you know. What's the most probably eye-opening thing about it? It's so odd because I think I was having so much angst about the breakup being announced because I felt oddly, like, embarrassed on the sense that for my, on my family's end, like, you know, you take marriage very seriously. And I just, before even filming, I had this goal. Like, I just want to make my family proud of, like, who I am when they watch it back. And so that was, like, really hard for me. And of course, they didn't judge me and they didn't find,

you know, it embarrassing. But that was what I struggled with the most. I really didn't care what anybody else thought. I was just like, I really hope. my family's not upset with me. We're all driven by the search for better. But when it comes to hiring, the best way to search for a candidate isn't to search at all. Don't search, just match with Indeed.

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i think people wanted an explanation yeah and i don't necessarily think that we owe anybody anything but they did dedicate time to like watch it and fall in love with like us and our love story and all of that i think it would have been nice to provide some clarity but i also think that that would have been a really hard conversation for grant and i to have on how do we verbalize how do you verbalize How do you verbalize it? Yeah. Was it mutual or no? Can you not share that?

It was. You know, I think we, after the initial conversation, we had a lot of conversations that it made sense for the both of us. Okay, gotcha. Yeah. It made sense for the both of you. Yeah. Last thing I got on that, like, are you guys in an amicable place?

Like, where are you and him on that level? I want to see him succeed and I will always support him. Yeah. I think he's a really great, genuine. guy. And, you know, I can tell he's supporting me from afar. Yeah, I love it. Amicable, respectful, and wishing of the best, which is awesome. Now, when you think about what's best for you in this whole new light, you're already on reality TV. Business-wise, career-wise, do you think maybe you would go back into reality TV? I don't know. I don't know. I mean, like I said,

I'm not saying no hard-nosed to anything. Yeah. But it would take a lot of convincing, I think. And And especially just with the breakup, like, I've seen kind of the emotional toll it took on me. I don't know that it would be worth it to potentially have to go through that again. But maybe if it's, like, non-dating related. Okay. Like, I would go on traitors. Okay. I was going to say, what would you say, like, top three shows would be for you if you had a traitors?

Yeah. Would you think you'd be a good trader? I would be a great traitor. Wow. How come? I'm like, I'm like, sly. Okay. You can wheel a little bit.

And I think I'd come off. People, like, underestimate me. They're like, oh, she's a lot. goofy she's funny you know she's so kind blah blah blah I'm like yeah you never know you never know okay so traders what else I don't know to be honest I don't really watch a lot of reality TV but I wouldn't I would go on Bachelor in Paradise I think okay like I know that that's dating but I think you I'm so bad with timelines but were you you were broken up before paradise started right before it aired before it aired so they obviously didn't ask you

then to go on correct yeah yeah yeah but maybe next year if they have a paradise you maybe touch those beaches yeah I think so I think so. I know it's dating, but I just feel like it's a total different setting, you know. What about,

like, if you were presented or offered to do the Bachelorette, is that something you consider? I think so. I think so. But like I said,

I would have to really, like, weigh it out, you know? Yeah, yeah. And they would have to get some really good men. Okay, gotcha. All right, there you go. Yeah. Sounds like you're saying

they need to hit the reset button. Yeah. Okay. All right. I don't want to interpret anything, but there you go. All right. So maybe the best.

when you think about this world of so obviously you're in finance you're still in finance yeah so we talked about reality tv but then there's this whole umbrella in this career of like entertainment right where some people you've seen people do a million things you could have your own podcast you could write your own book you could be a host you could get into acting you can get into like tv anchoring i mean the list is endless what under this like entertainment media umbrella from a career perspective like has your has your eye you know i i don't know I think my main focus right now, and I don't know if it's necessarily entertainment, is creating a brand around Nice Girls Label. My sister and I, like, our goal is to have this become, like, a brand that resonates where we're giving back to different foundations.

We're participating in different things that, like, have a meaningful impact on just all different kinds of people. Yeah. I know that personally, I would really love to get into some schools and talk to kids about, like, whether somebody in their family is going through addiction and kind of just, like, I don't want anybody to be. feel alone in that space. One of my really close family friends actually runs some sober homes. And so I think I would love to, like, be a part of that and have nice girls be able to give back, like, monetarily to them and just, like, really bring some awareness to some things.

Tell people about your business that they don't know. If anyone doesn't know what nice girls label is, tell them about it. Well, it started as just this dream. My grandmother's phrase is, it's nice to be nice. So that is kind of like our thing. And so the name of the label is nice girls label. And right now we have two lounge wear sets and t-shirts for men that say nice guy on them. Yeah. And basically, you know, we've just been kind of right now showing up at different events

and trying to donate some of our proceeds to different foundations. And so, yeah, I think that that is like, well, I think we're going to probably stick with just the loungeware sets for right now so we can focus more on like the movement behind it. Sure. But yeah. So where can people get it? And how much are they selling for? Okay. Yeah. They're a little bit on the priceier. side, but that's because, you know, we took a long time to find, like, the right manufacturer. They're 100% cotton. They're really comfortable. Cool. But the t-shirt, I mean, the sweat tops, crew necks are 110.

And the joggers are, I believe, 80. Okay. And you can get them on nice girlslabel.com. Sweet. Yeah. And where's the manufacturer? Is it in the U.S.? California.

Okay. Amazing. Gotcha. So you can go there, 110, 80 bucks. And, like, obviously, this has a positive connotation, making impact, too. So that is pretty cool. When you think about the finance side of things, did you fund it yourself? Did you guys get investors? Is it all owned by yourself?

You and your sister self-funded, own the whole thing. Yes. Okay. And then where do you see two, three years from now? Where do you want it to be? We want it to be a household name. Okay. I think we really are going to try to push.

We would love to be able to give back a lot to like our community. Sure. That's like something my dad has like honed in on our whole life. He's like super involved in Newton community. and giving back. And so I think, you know, if we can make a difference in our community, that's one step closer to making a difference in the world. I love it. Yeah. Tell you what, maybe you can be a public speaker, too. I would like that. Okay, I love it. What is something you do to feel secure with your finances and your money situation? Checking up on myself once a week.

I sit down and I look at everything. I make sure all my bills are paid. Everything was deposited and correctly. And I just feel like if I visually see it, I feel good about it. Okay. They say that 43% of couples, someone is cheating through finances. Have you ever had to deal with any type of security and relationships and money and stealing or anything like that? No, but my first boyfriend was broke, so I like really funded that relationship. So I don't know. He was a moocher. Oh, he was a moocher. All right, you got to watch out for those moochers. All right, so that is a whole different topic. Now we're in love and money. So I want your take on a few things. Okay. Now you're in the dating game, right? So dating and money, there's all these new studies.

on the way boomers process it, X, millennials, and Gen Z. Everyone has a different perspective on their take on money, their relationship with money, what they're expecting from their dates, et cetera. So let's start with this. First date, what's your expectation on who pays? I think it's proper for the man to pay, but if they wanted to split it, I mean, I'm not like opposed. Yeah, yeah, okay, but that would give you like, that would be like red flag. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think the guy, I agree with you.

I 100% agree with you. Okay, what is your? your take on the idea of preempts? Honestly, teach their own. I don't think that I would be necessarily offended if they had, you know, a set amount of assets that they were trying to protect. I think you just got to protect yourself and your family

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or thinking about buying a house, like, those conversations should have already been had. Okay. So, I don't know, I think once you get to the comfortability level with each other where you really just want to get to know if, like, it could be a lifelong engagement, if you will like you should have those conversations maybe like after a couple months after a couple months yeah and are you going to like are you going to bring it up first or do you expect him to bring it up i have no problem bringing it up okay there you go yeah if he doesn't bring it up i'll bring it up

couple months you're going to bring it up yeah we'll see what happens with that okay question on dating are you on any dating apps right now my coworker just got me on raya but it's like not really fun i was going to say how's the raya game it's like nothing why why is it not fun i don't know it's showing me people from all over the world. And I'm like, I just kind of like, oh, so it does, it's not location specific. That seems stupid. I know. So I'm like matching with people from like, you know, like, you know, like Italy. And I'm like, great, I'll see you know, next year, next September. Hey, you never know, like maybe someone's in Italy. All right. Yeah, yeah, there you go. We'll talk finances real quick here. You're going to buy my flight and my Italian dinner there.

All right. So you're on dating apps. There are like certain rumors out there that you might be dating. I think it's gen trans x is that what can you squash those rumors and like push to like is that a thing i went to high school with matt rossi so you guys are just buddies totally oh so it's not like a that's an actual just a complete fugazi yeah okay i didn't know we actually put up a video the other day just kind of like teasing that we were kissing yeah yeah but no it's just fun it's like whatever okay all right so raya you're you're just having fun and you might meet with someone in italy and god knows what happens yeah i like to i like to think I'm a referral bitch.

A referral bitch? Yeah, like if you know somebody. I would go on a blind date. But that's not being a referral bitch. Yeah, like if you knew somebody that you thought, like, and you know me, and you're like, oh, you know what? You would be great for Giuliana. This is the most finance thing you ever said.

Because like in wealth management, it's all about referrals. Warm leads is what they call them. So you're like, I'll take a warm lead. I'm not taking a blind date. Yes. Okay. Fair. All right.

But you would go on a blind date that. I guess I would. Yeah, because, like, I mean, I would want to see pictures. Really? I wouldn't go out of black, because it's like, it's just like the dating is so much time and so much energy. And it's like, I don't know. I need to like, I need to have the person like vetted, I feel like. Do you know what I'm saying?

Yeah. And by vetted, I mean, like, I agree with you. Like if someone knows it, they could vouch for it and I trust her opinion, but just to go blind, it terrifies me. Yeah. I mean, I think what's like the opposite end of that is like on the dating apps, you match with somebody. You have all these conversations before you even meet them. And I'm like, that, to me, is a waste of time. For sure.

I'd rather just get on a date with them and be like, I either like you or I don't like you. Okay. There you go. You heard it there. We're talking love and money. Now let's go back to money. Okay. What's one thing that you overspend on?

You know you overspend on it and you're not going to change. What's that thing? Coffee. That's it, huh? Coffee. How much you spend on coffee? I have like two coffees a day. Okay.

And sometimes a botcha. And where are you going? Sometimes Starbucks and Greystone. Greystone and South End. Okay. So that's like, that's a Boston spot. Yeah, shout out to their dirty churches. Shout out to Greystone.

Okay, all right, there's that. What about when you think about like your earnings on social media, do you have a goal that you're trying to earn annually? Do you think like this is the goal I'm trying to earn off social media? And what is that? Yeah, I don't want to say a specific number, but I definitely have like a goal in mind that would make me consider leaving my, my nine to five.

And is it over six figures? Yes. Okay. All right. So we can at least get that. Yeah. We've got Tyler Cameron here in the back. Did you...

This is Giuliana? How funny is this? Yeah. How about Tyler Cameron? Yeah. Oh my gosh. I'll tell you. I just found out she's on Raya.

Matching with dies in Italy, you know? Yeah. I was like my own Pokemon game. Gotta catch them all. Got to catch them at any of them. See, that's what I'm saying. Were you on Raya? Yeah.

Yeah, but I would just match people like to talk a quick conversation and then never speak about it. Wait, come here. Come here. Come here. You've been on the problem. Batchel franchise. You've been on reality TV. She just got off, just got out of engagement. What is one piece of advice you can give her on the career aspect of this wild world? Because she's new to it and she wants to start killing it and keep killing it.

Keep going. Don't get discouraged. I think it's like you get thrown in such a crazy mess in the bachelor world. Like the fan base is the best fan base ever, but they're also like very like heavily like scrutinized the shit out of you, right? You know, so it's like they're fickle as fun. Yeah, get thick skin. But. fickle but they're the best they're the best and like i am so grateful but like you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna mess up we're all human you know but keep going like keep putting yourself out there keep doing it learn from your mistakes yeah and then and then go and like go get it back on tv go do another show go you know like don't get discouraged from dating shows or reality tv keep going

there's a reason why people love you so keep doing it all right you now you get one celebrity question you can ask her any finance personal or professional question it hurts yeah all right oh god i heard you have a finance background what is your advice for somebody coming out of college to do with their money or a young professional

how should they be taking care of their money i think saving as much as you can but but i feel like when you save you just sit sits there and when it just sits there you spend it well you gotta have some some self boundaries yeah but i don't of us are good at that let's be honest okay when i get a paycheck coming in i'm like i'm rich i'm going shopping but but like what about investing like what's a smart way for them to invest or how do i think

it's like scary i don't like i don't even know how to make a account i just call my advisor but i'm always like i want to try and invest myself but i don't even know how to start i mean i think if you have resources available to kind of like figure that out i think making phone calls and educating yourself i think a financial advisor makes sense for everybody no matter what you have, you know, monetarily, I think. Because you can get one on any, any level. Yeah, yeah, there's levels for all different times. Like your bankers will take you and help you out.

Totally, yeah. And it's pretty much so automated. Like, you know. Yeah, it's pretty much so automated too now. Yeah. My second question for you, what's the greatest investment you ever made? My greatest investment and myself every day. Love it.

Wow. I saw Alianria and all them doing this, Clark. What is that? What is that? That's like the clap. That's like the soft clap. Where did you see them do that? I'll still see it.

Are you drinking already? Yeah. Party has started for Tyler Cameron over there. All right, Juliana. I don't know where else we can go with this. I think where I'm going to go with this is five years from now, talk to me. Give me the dream. You talked about manifesting.

You talked about your five affirmations in the morning. You want to make more on social. You want to break that six-figure mark. You're still working. You're in Boston. You explored the dating route. You'd go on Bachelor of Paradise. You would go.

Be the Bachelorette like five years from now. What do you think it looks like in all realms, financial, personal, professional? I think financially I am in a spot where I can really give back to my mom and dad. They've just, like, given me so much in my life. I really want to put them at ease, maybe just, like, help them, you know, pay off their mortgage, buy their cars, buy, like, a nice Jeep for my mom because she loves jeeps. And my sister, too, but she's, like, a boss, so she doesn't need my help, but she's done so much for me. And I would love to own a house.

Okay. Whereabouts? I think in Florida. Okay. Where in Florida? Maybe Fort Lauderdale. Do you have a move coming soon? Maybe.

What tallest? Can you break it here? I haven't decided for sure, but my lease is up at the end of August. Okay. And you're considering Fort Lauderdale? Yeah. Why Fort Lauderdale? I have some family down there.

So being around family is just always important to me, but I love Fort Lauderdale because I love sun and beaches and I don't think I can do another Boston winter. All right. Fort Lauderdale. A move is out on the horizon, maybe more reality TV, all the things. All right, you got to leave us with one trading secret. It's specific to you. You can't learn from a professor, a textbook, or a TikTok tutorial only through your experience.

What can you leave us with? I think that it's a good reminder to, this kind of sounds weird, but the people that deserve to be loved the least need to be loved the most. So be kind when people are maybe not so kind to you because it could change their whole life. Yeah, that's very emotionally in tune and intentional and smart. God forbid, I'm a sensitive gangster. Wow, you are a sensitive gangster. You are a gangster, too.

You definitely got gangster in you. I love it. All right. Where can everyone find everything, Juliana? Where can they find you? Instagram. Okay, what's your head? Juliana Pasca Rosa.

And your company? Oh, and nice girls label. Nice girls label. Yeah, and yeah, Jules Rosa, Jules Pasca Rosa on TikTok, I think. I'm not really that funny. Jules, Giuliana. Maybe we'll see you back on. TV. Maybe this business will continue to blow up. Maybe we'll talk more about your move next time or

your Italian boyfriend. More to come, but thank you for being on this episode, Trang Secrets. Thanks for having me. Ding, ding! We are closing in the bell to the Julia Anna episode. Okay, back to Batchar. We have a Bachelorette. Bachelor nation back on the podcast. We went with Juliet Porter last week, next week for everyone that is waiting. We have Olandria coming on the podcast. That one's going to be epic. but David, Giuliana, what are we thinking?

How are you feeling? Yeah, Juliana on the ones and twos, you know, we had Rachel Kirkconnell on three weeks ago. Now you have Giuliana, so you kind of have with a little gap in there, you have back-to-back Bachelor winners,

which is kind of unique. I don't think we've ever had that before. And I, you know, I was people who keep receipts know that I was off of grand season. I chose not to watch. I was in protest.

I was on strike. So I didn't really know much about Juliana until listening to her on this episode. Can you remind me again why were you had strike? Just the overall direction. I didn't like the, I didn't love Grant as the lead pick. I thought the season coming off of a season he was coming off of was a little dry. And I wanted them to spice it up. And I had just, I honestly think as I've said a lot on the show, there were other reality shows,

dating shows in particular that were starting to take. my minutes and we only have so many amount of minutes so we can sit down and consume dating reality TV and the bachelor was just getting left in the dust so that's that's where this is when you started to feel like the franchise in general was slipping away and then you're just like I'm just not interested that was one of the interesting things with grant that we didn't get a lot of his storyline we didn't get a lot of his backstory from the previous season as a result of it it was almost like when Clayton was picked we didn't get much of Clayton story is The Bachelor before, probably similar, you know, I think you can make the argument

for Zach. Yeah, yeah, Zach Shawcross as well. So you were just like, I've seen this script play out. I'm, I'm kind of done with it. I do, it'll be interesting to see, you know, just like what happens here with towards the end with Paradise. Like, we now know that there's a cash element towards Paradise. Will Paradise pick up in ratings or not? I know this season, we've talked about it on this, this podcast specifically, but it is struggling. this summer. We are seeing the impacts of Love Island, which is just off the chart still, even with the reunion, I would say, just like countrywide, man, it's just still buzzing in every single direction. So I get what you're saying about deciding to tune in or tune out.

But yes, Juliana was from Grant's season, was the finalist. They did get engaged. And as you heard on this episode, their engagement didn't work out. Their engagement didn't work out. And you can even feel that a little bit, right, David? Like you could feel just like that it was relatively like you can tell she's fresh out of that yeah fresh out of that and anyone who takes the time to come on our pods were we're big fans of so it definitely felt like she was fresh out of it i don't want to say um that she's lost i don't think she's lost by any means but i think that she's still in the process of establishing exactly what it looks like she's dabbling in this in the social media game she's back in her nine

to five, which she says she does love for the comfort of it all and at a fairly new company that she's with. She's talking about wanting to go back on reality TV. So I think she's at peace with the breakup. I don't think that necessarily she didn't come across like she's heartbroken and oh my, how am I going to ever move on? I just think now that she went through the process, she talked about being embarrassed because she holds the, you know, the sanctity of marriage in such a high regard that it didn't work out. And she's obviously, picking herself back up and uh you know i am curious and kind of to see what direction she takes next and what i will say jays is an observation you know you you alluded to some of the

the previous bachelors and and the leads i couldn't as i was as i always do with guests that we have on i go on the social media to try and get a little bit of of a gauge and i was just shocked to see a hundred sixty five thousand followers for her on instagram um just how low that really is from what we were had become accustomed to in the franchise and now as we talk and we talk about this not for clout for business and sense of it all and we've talked about how going on these shows is a business opportunity and the avenues you can open but 165,000 I mean you can go on love island and sneeze for five seconds on one episode and you'll get more than 165,000 followers so that is that is to me is just it's just going with the trends that we've seen and and I think for her is as you know

165,000 followers. Can you have a career if she did want to go full-fledged into social media with that? So I think it's all a balancing act that she's dealing with right now. Yeah. And I mean, I think what's interesting is like you're talking obviously about her followers and you're not saying it in any other way other than you've been a fan of the show for a decade. You follow, I think more than anybody I know.

Maybe the only other person that follows more closely is Bachelor Data. You follow people's followers off the show and off all show. That's like David's thing. He's done it since day one. And so what you're saying is like when you have someone like this who is a catch and kind and smart and all the things and she wins the season and gets engaged, it sounds like it's somewhat of an outlier to have 100,000-ish followers, especially when you comment, you can sneeze on Love Island and get 100,000 followers.

It's just crazy. But you know, it's funny is like I did just bring up Bachelor Data and I reached out to the other day. So I was just like, hey, I just said, I just want to make sure everything's okay and you're doing well because she hasn't posted since July 7th. And it doesn't look like she's even covering this season on Bachelor Data of Bachelor in Paradise. You know, that's what seems how lackluster it is right now. Yeah. We don't have the fan accounts that, you know, analyze this stuff, still analyzing it, because the time spent there might not make sense.

So I don't know. You know, I certainly can't speak for Susanna and match for data, but just an observation and a good friend of the show. But, yeah, I mean, that does connect to the business side of it. And that's what we do talk about on this podcast. 100%. And I think for the business that we've talked about, the show, in today's generation of people who want to go on these experiences and leverage the opportunity of being reality TV,

if the opportunity doesn't match the sacrifice, as we've talked about, the cost of going on these shows, how it affects your current job situation and stability in your life, will it get to a point where they can't even, I can't imagine where they can't feel the cast, but the supply and demand of going on that show for people, it's got to be what used to be the,

I mean, we're talking the, you had an opportunity, you kind of dropped everything to go on. Now, I would say, is it in the top three, top five, top 10 opportunities on reality TV? I don't know. So just again, it's always going to be fascinating. It's always going to be at the root of this podcast, given the proximity of your journey, what you've been through, the guests that we had on and the dollars and sense of it all. Really, it just is fascinating to see kind of the trends and to see how that franchise is trying to keep up with Bachelor of Paradise and the Goldens and things like that. It's like, I don't know.

I don't know, Jay. It's just something we're always going to talk about. We will see what happens. But one thing I find interesting is like, you know, refreshing. I'll use the word refreshing, that the three guests we've had from the Bachelor franchise recently, all have experienced breakups and either recent breakups or very publicized breakups or breakups that were literally just on TV, like Justin and Susie, Rachel Kirkconnell, now Juliana, and all were so, in my opinion,

protective of that other individual and respectful. And I thought that was very refreshing. And Teddy is in the studio. He just says hello. But, you know, that's a common thing we've seen the last three guests that we've had on, which I think is a nice little change of pace. That's refreshing.

It is refreshing. And I think the beauty of Giuliana is that she's not, nothing that she has ever done has been in my from my experience and consuming her some of her content and seeing things as she doesn't seem like she's saying things to catch a headline or to be in the spotlight like I love how she did talk about you know when the outside noise got real loud during the breakup like she did find moments to still defend herself right like if people want to say something that's one thing but if people are saying something against what she what she believes in her foundation like she's holding people

accountable for what they said. And she said, you know, I can be really nice and kind while also establishing boundaries is a quote that she said, which I think is something that we can all take away from this. It's like you don't have to just sit there and be silent, right? There's there's boundaries that need to be, you know, protected, whether it be in a relationship or out of a relationship or is the exiting of a relationship and making sure people have their voice while still being able to be themselves is great. So you can just tell like, you know, it sounds like she comes from a really like great

pure family and, you know, this is something that she held sacred and it didn't go her way. And she was just able to kind of keep, you know, her foundational, you know, beliefs and what makes her, you know, through this whole process, which is a testament to her because, as you know, Mr. Public breakup in the last couple, it's not always easy to do. And I had something that I know I would, I don't think I could ever, ever deal with. So if I had one critic in my circle that was more critical than me than anybody about how I handled breakups publicly, it was without certain David Ardoin. Well, the curious Canadian. You know what? Here's the deal. Here's where I'm going to back you up and then let you take care. Okay. David, David saw it all A to Z. He was very involved. literally had the inside look at it all and knows the reality of it all.

And I think as a protective friend, you could not believe things you are seeing, the things that you were hearing, the rumors that were being spread. And as a result of that, you were like, you have to get out there. You have to speak to it. You have to defend yourself something I have never been good at and something I certainly haven't really done in any capacity, especially, you know, with a lot of these asinine, like truly, asinine, out of context, just misinformation, mislabeling, things spread. So I would say you, of all people, probably my biggest critic with that.

Well, I will say, I will say, critic is not the right word. I think that I also admire how you've dealt with it. You've really taken the stance. You've taken the ultimate high road. You have, um, you know, kind of let, you know, your exes really spread their word and what they want and you've had your truth and you've just chose kind of the, the peaceful route. Um, I don't think that that's. something that I am capable of doing in those situations. And I think part of, you know,

hearing all these things is like, Jay, I know what is being said about you or the reason that you guys are breaking up is impacting you because I know it's not true. You have to have an opportunity in whatever platform you want to just clear your name because you'll be able to sleep better that night, right? But what's the trickle effect? What kind of worms is it open? When you've let someone speak for so long and then you interject, how are they going to take that, right? Not something that they're comfortable with. Regardless, you've come out of it of great. Everyone kind of grieves and processes these things in different ways. Obviously, loved and respected the opportunity that you would want me involved in some of these

things in your life because I'm just there to help. And I think through it all, you know, you've learned a lot. We've grown closer because of it. And you seem to be in a great place. But breakups suck, man. And that's why I think going back to the Giuliana episode, the fact that she found a good way in the public eye to kind of set her boundaries and get things off her chest, but not everything off her chest, right? When she needed to, you know, it's just one of those things where I think as long as there's a public eye and there's a following when people break up, it's always going to be the most. people will want to be eyeballs on a breakup story more than a love story because I think it's it's so

relatable everyone's had a really bad breakup that completely you know I would say fucks them up and everyone's had the breakup where that low of the breakup is is a stronger emotion than the high of the love and you know that's the thing that people want to they want to dive into because that everything's when you're in love is as rainbow as a butterfly but the breakups are when people want to hear the real reason so it's not something that i you know i envy from situations you've been in but those are in the past and you've moved forward and it's it's it's fantastic to see yeah no i appreciate it that's that's well said you're the man thank you for always standing by my sad my back uh through all the craziness of it but we are on the other side and uh yeah just wish wish just juliana well

of course we wish grant well and just everyone that goes through breakup yeah man breakups happen and you break up with everybody until you don't and hopefully that's your person and we you know and i know you would say this too like your ex is too like we wish like everyone wishes everybody well at the end of the day yes you know what i mean and you've been and you've been you've been adamant about saying that from the start so and that's i think why the right that you've taken has has been great so um and look now you're in now you're in new york city you're doing Amazon Lives with your boy Rob Grancowski. I mean, you're

still freaking just crushing it no matter where you are, which is so many places I can't even keep track. Which maybe didn't Instagram just do this new thing or you can find your friends? I know it's very controversial. Maybe I need to start using that to see where you are all the time. Yeah, I might have to share my location

with you at this point. But it's been busy and I think you wrap that little dialogue we just had up perfectly. I will say that. Anyone that I can't think of truly. anyone in my life that's come into my life and then out of my life at this point that I wouldn't wish well like people grow people change and uh I you know I want the happiness for people that um I once cared about and nothing about that so perfectly said and literally couldn't have said

it better and I agree with that um but yeah it's been a busy week man a lot of action this week I've been here for now says yeah full full week at this point we did it's cool we did an essay them to you with chime, David. So you sit in a studio and you go from good morning show to good morning show across the country. We hit 35 good morning shows. And the questions were all about finance. But then, of course, you integrate chime into the dialogue. So that was five hours, man. You're just sitting there copy paste, copy paste. So it was a lot, but it was fun. And then did the Amazon Live with Rob G, which was just absolutely electric. That guy is just so much fun. He's the best had such a blast with him. We had the winner of Survivor on. I mean, man, just imagine

this, dude. You go out for 26 days. You compete and on day 27, a million dollars is then in your bank account. Straight up a million bucks more to come from that podcast. And then, you know, doing a progressive insurance deal here with Tommy DeVito and working through that. And that's a great episode. You guys will love it. And the integration with the brand has been so much fun. And then, you know, yesterday went on Fox and Friends, which I, you know, I'd like to actually talk about this for a second. This is a great platform to do it. We, I got to talk about the impact of cost of housing in this country and things that we can do given the cost of, of, of, of housing. Supply is extremely low right now.

Since 2021, the median house price in the United States is up over 60%. But our median household income is only up one point. It's like 1.3%. And in general, it's just become so hard to own a home, especially for first-time home buyers. This one blew me away. Your median age for a first-time home buy right now was 38. Back in 1991, it was 28. So anyway, we got to talk about that.

And then also the impact of socializing and the cost that's happening with dating and friendships and things like that. What I want to say in this podcast is when I speak about anything as it connects to finances and transparency, I speak in a way that is based on education and hopefully a way we can all consume and understand. I will never or haven't yet, as far as the topics that I ever speak about, connect politics to financial transparency or the financial business acumen of the things that I think that we need to be taught or need to know that just we weren't taught. And so whether you're regardless of the platform, whether it's MSNBC or CNN or this was Fox and Friends, before I go on, I make it very clear. If you're providing me your platform, I'm very

grateful for it, but I also want to let you know that in return, I don't want any politics in any way, shape, or form coming up in our opportunity to speak. I want it to be strictly and only financial education. And so a majority of platforms that will have me, when they agreed to that, I will take them on because, in my opinion, we so desperately need to know these things that we aren't taught and that we aren't the tools and tips that we aren't provided. So anyway, that's my little thing. But I did go on Fox and Friends to talk about all those things, which was great. And then today we did this. And, you know, I think tomorrow we got some work with Garnier and L'Oreal. And then Tuesday, we got the U.S. Open. Evans in the

here Evan who we're going to the u.s open with vital proteins on tuesday we got a fun crew in there right yeah i'm looking forward to that and then back back home wednesday my man that's awesome that is awesome well i appreciate all the insight for our listeners it's it's always good to get a little bit of the detail a little behind the scenes whatever you're doing whatever your approach is you know it definitely is working um you know you don't get 4.9 stars over 6 000 reviews on the pod and almost in 250 episodes without in this culture doing something right and so it's been good it's been fun man

it's been uh oh yeah i gotta stop you there okay you talked about reviews yeah i'm blanking on her name but i was outside equinox okay and we had a trading secrets listener come over unreal and she was so sweet and so kind she gave so many compliments

to the rachel episode but then david she was like your recaps at the end i absolutely love let's go the way to recap an episode So no other podcasts do that. So a shout out to her and David, just another little testament. People are loving the recaps. There we go.

There we go. Well, last recap, I talked about perfect match a little bit. I'm a little deeper in the perfect match game. Like I said, I would update. So I know a little bit more about Julia Porter from last episode. I got to see the Clayton and Rachel think play out through all the episodes.

The show is the, it's one of the better seasons of the perfect. match that I've seen so far, but, uh, yeah, no, I mean, I love recapping it. If we could ever just do a strict recap of, uh, reality TV shows, that would be electric too and just really let the gloves off. But, uh, no, it's fun. I mean, we get to keep doing this thing together. It's always the best.

I love it. David, before we wrap anything else though with Juliana, anything else you want to make sure that we, we bring to the forefront that you took away from the episode? Uh, no, I mean, anybody who can get up and every morning write five things that she likes about herself down before she does and she was like you're like wait you really do that she's like yeah it takes two seconds and she's like it makes me feel great i'm like okay that would be an unbelievable thing to incorporate if you could really do it because that's just the ultimate positivity of like maybe my sleep wasn't so bad maybe my job doesn't suck as much maybe my relationship is a lot

better than you know i went to bed the night before and you could just be so much more grateful and have a great approach and then crush the day so i like that listen jule you Juliana, if you're still with us, I am doing this right here right now. David, we are actually doing it. Okay. Starting right now, I am opening up the notes app. I am sharing the notes app with you. Okay. Every day, starting tomorrow, we have to write one thing that we like about ourselves individually, one thing we like about one another. And then next week on the recap, we are going to read it off. Okay. We, we're going to take her trading secret and apply it to us. We say we're going to do this off and we don't do it. We're going to do it. And I'm starting to in the note right now to do it love it do it up and then we got a landria a landria next week can't wait

i'm going to have a lot of questions and a lot i can't wait for that one so oh landria is on next week i can't wait for it she is an absolute star the bama barbie beautiful and brilliant i am so excited for that episode that is coming out next week and dave you got anything else nope let's wrap it up Let's wrap it up. Please give us five stars. We literally watch and read every single one of those reviews. All the feedback is really appreciated, but remember to hit five stars. And thank you for tuning into another episode of Trading Secrets.

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