Trading Secrets - 261. Remi Bader: From being fired twice to powerhouse creator, how she built her career on unfiltered honesty, pursing her passion in fashion, and staying true to who she is

Episode Date: November 3, 2025

This week, Jason is joined by content creator, entrepreneur, and one of the most authentic and impactful voices in fashion, Remi Bader! From her viral realistic hauls that changed how millions think about clothing to launching her own size inclusive fashion line Edited by Remi Bader at Sam’s Club, she has proven the power of authenticity and advocacy. Her collection was so successful, it expanded from a hundred stores to 200 and has continued that mission by building her own brand Fangirl. Remy has redefined what it means to merge influence with impact, showing how social media power can spark lasting change in the fashion industry. Remi Bader dives into the unconventional path that led her from PR and marketing to becoming one of the most recognizable names in fashion and content creation. She opens up about getting fired early in her career, why she initially thought fashion wasn’t her space, and how creating videos during one of her lowest points unexpectedly launched her online success. Remi shares the full-circle moment of landing on Forbes 30 Under 30, how she spent all her early income on Uber and food delivery, and her resistance to being labeled an influencer. She details how UTA convinced her to go full-time into content creation, her days working as a fit model, and the whirlwind of balancing viral fame with mental health. Remi reflects on building her career completely on her own, the importance of never burning bridges, and how LinkedIn played a surprising role in her growth. She also gets candid about her collaboration with her dad (and why she’ll never do business with family again), staying true to her values regardless of body size, prioritizing health, setting boundaries, and the story behind her brand, Fangirl. Remi reveals all this and so much more in another episode you can’t afford to miss! Host: Jason Tartick Co-Host: David Arduin Audio: John Gurney Guest: Remi Bader Stay connected with the Trading Secrets Podcast!  Instagram: @tradingsecretspodcast  Youtube: Trading Secrets Facebook: Join the Group  All Access: Free 30-Day Trial  Trading Secrets Steals & Deals! Function Health:  Most people only think about their immune system after they get sick. But your body gives you signals long before the first cough or fever shows up. That's where Function comes in. With access to testing for over 100 biomarkers, you can better understand how your immune system is really doing — before you start feeling run down. Visit www.functionhealth.com/TRADINGSECRETS or use gift code TRADINGSECRETS100 at sign up to own your health. Square: Whether you're selling lattes, cutting hair, detailing cars, or running a design studio, Square helps you run your business, without running yourself into the ground. With Square, you get all the tools to run your business, with none of the contracts or complexity. And why wait? For up to $200 off Square hardware head to square.com/go/tradingsecrets  Momentous: Creatine isn't just for building muscle it has become a daily essential for your strength, focus, recovery, aging, and cognitive performance. Momentous doesn't follow trends-they perfect the fundamentals. This is chewable creatine done right. For  35% off your first order with promo code TRADINGSECRETS visit livemomentous.com  Booking.com: If your vacation rental isn't listed on Booking.com, it could be invisible to millions of travelers searching the platform. Don't miss out on consistent bookings and global reach. Head over to Booking.com and start your listing today. Get Seen. Get Booked on Booking.com

Welcome back to another episode of Trading Secrets. I'm your host, Jason Tarnick, and we are at the pre-market trading segment with the Remy Bader episode. I do have the one and only, the curious Canadian with me. So, David, last week, you did say for my birthday, you were going to say, send some Trading Secrets merch to those who gave us five-star reviews. And we have our winner. It is KTD-25, Exclamation Point. We also have a second winner because I know you got a lot of merch over there. It is ZoneGamer 123. If you guys heard this, please email me TradingSecrets at Jason Tartick.com and we will send you some Trading Secrets merch. And for anyone that's listening

right now, make sure to give us a five-star review. Listen to the recap after the episode. And we have some more stuff to give away next week. This has been a great week, a fun week. It was my brother's birthday, my dad's birthday, went to Heidi Kloom's Halloween party, which was just unbelievable. It was actually on News Nation today talking about the apocalypse of AI and make sure you stay tuned to the recap, because we're going to see if David used his AI and what he thought about it. But what are they saying about the apocalypse of AI? What they're saying essentially is that the speed at which AI is taking out professional white-collar jobs is unmatched right now. We saw UPS, lay off 14,000 workers, Amazon, another 14,000, and big companies like PWC, Walmart, and JPMorgan Chase are all limiting

jobs due to the efficiency in what the costs are. Now, one thing to think about before I turn it over in David for a quick little tease, here's what I want you to know. If you go to a job and you have a task and people give you things to do and you execute that, you finish them and then you wake up in the morning and you have to rinse and repeat, if that is your type of line of work in any way, shape, or form, be aware because your job likely will be taken out by AI. Now, what jobs won't be taken out by AI? Think about critical thinking. Think about things a human can bring, like emotional intelligence and energy and education. Jobs like that will be flourishing, right? Like litigators, psychologists, trades like

HVAC and plumbing, educators, and teachers and coaches like David. So that's why I talked about News Nation. It was a great week. But you know what? Enough of me. We're going to get into Remy Bader before I do so. David, you got anything to tease it? Well, first off, I'm glad you had a great week, Jason.

I got my heart and my guts ripped out because of the Toronto Blue Jays. Anyone who watched everyone saying best world series in the history baseball. as a fan as an entertainment sure it was so depressing so heartbreaking i'm coming to you guys sunday night we're less than 24 hours from the loss it hurt and maybe we'll get into that more of the recap because it hurt but anyways we have a remi bader episode which was it was phenomenal i mean you want to talk about relatable you want to talk about authentic she really gave us all the details she's full of yourself and what i'll say and we'll talk about this in the recap jason one it was almost like we were listening to her biography

autobiography because you went more timeline by timeline year by year detail by detail which really painted an awesome picture for someone who really wasn't familiar with the background of Rumi Bader I've seen her on the socials it really provided me with her perspective of who she is why she is and how successful she's been along the way so I thought it's a great episode I love it David it's a great teaser and you can tell I am highly energetic after the Buffalo Bills, just beat Kansas City Chiefs at home. David, I feel for you. I'm there for you. I don't know if it means anything, but Buffalo Bisons are the minor league team

for Toronto Blue League J. So I was rooting for you. And you know what? Let's talk about one thing quick, money related. In my opinion, it's ridiculous that there is a league like the MLB that's this established where there's no salary cap. There's no salary cap. That's insane. You know, do you know that the total salaries of the contract signed between the pitchers they used in the game seven was over a billion dollars? Like that is absolutely insane. That's a great trading secrets number to bring in the equation. But why there's not a level playing field and a game of that level of that stage, stature is just insane. And that's why you always see the big cities, you know, with the biggest budgets, L.A., New York Mets, New York Yankees in the, in the, in the,

World Series. But you know what? Anything before we could get into Remy Bader, David? Because I know you're ready. No, turn the page on the Blue Jays. Let's kick it off to Remy. Let's kick it off to Remy Bader. Welcome back to another episode of Trading Secrets. Today, we are joined by Remy Bader. Content creator. Oh, I'm still going, girl. Don't you stop? This is a long resume. You got content creator, entrepreneur, and one of the most authentic and impactful voices in fashion, from her viral, realistic halls that changed how millions think about clothing to launching her own size-inclusive fashion line edited by Remy Bader at Sam's Club. She has proven the power of authenticity and advocacy.

Her collection was so successful, it expanded from 100 stores to 200. That's huge. And she's now continuing that mission by building her own brand fan girl. Remy has redefined what it means to merge influence with impact, showing how social media power can spark lasting change in the fashion industry. Today we are going to dive into our entrepreneurial journey, the money behind launching collaborations, the ups, downs, lefts, and rights, and how she's turning internet fame into business longevity. Remi, thank you so much for being on trading secrets. Wow, whoever wrote that. Pretty good, right? You like that.

You like that makes you feel a little good. Yeah. Well, you deserve it. You deserve it. Thank you so much. Let's go back to, I like to go back in like chronological order. Yeah. And when I was like, obviously we're friends, but then I'm doing research about you. And it's pretty wild how quick this happened, right? So you start social media in March 2021, I think next year. I started, I started, I started like, blew up January 2021. I started like end of 2020, like after people started during COVID. Okay. So you're just a little late to the COVID scene, but towards the late COVID baby. But then within a year, you're listed as a top 50 Forbes creator in 2022. Then in 2023, your Forbes 30 under 30. I mean, that happened such a quick, fast, short period of time.

And since then, there's been ups and downs, lefts and rights, but your success continues. Let's go back to before you were a creator. My understanding is you were in PR and marketing. What did that look like? Tell me about the career. How much money could you make in a space like that? Yeah. So I, out of college, I always wanted to do like PR, I guess was just like in my head. Always had internships in PR marketing type of stuff. Wanted to be in fashion. Then kind of switched that right before I graduated honestly because I was like a little bit bigger and I was just like in my head felt like fashion wasn't in a space for me like when I would go to these internships and all these things I was like maybe I'll do music or entertainment so I my first job out of college was

at Bravo TV I was an assistant to the SVP and VP of communications so I was on the PR team for bra and oxygen which is a part of NBC sure I was between two jobs when I graduated also a PR agency that does film and I remember I was like offered like 33,000 salary and that or like I think like around 40,000 for at NBC and then I went with NBC not even just because the money was a little bit more because it was like I was like this is a sick job definitely wasn't great at it I got let go and that was why did you get fired I wasn't a good assistant for sure which I wasn't accepting of back then I was like thinking of like every other thing of like why it why me and like I really it was a hard job for sure because you're you were a personal assistant to two people but also just a coordinator

on the team for PR for LA and New York and it was like a big job that I guess I just my mom always said I don't think you could be an assistant I think you one day will need an assistant I was like no I could do anything and like she was right so yeah I think it was just like this wasn't the job for me one quick question before we keep going you went from fashion TV and then your sister, it doesn't work out. Your passion was fashion. You had mentioned you felt it wasn't the space for you. Yeah. Can you, was there anything specifically that happened that you remember that's a memory that you're like, I can't play in this space? Yeah, I always intern from like high, I was obsessed with like internships. I did that from like high school through college. And I remember

going home during college to, I worked at like the fashion weeks with different PR agencies. Yeah. And I remember being in that room for one of the fashion shows. And like, looking around the room and being like, oh, no one looks like me. Like no one's curvier here. Whether they were a model or just worked there and that could and that's not true, but it's like like that day it was. That was your reality. Yeah. And I was like, oh wow. Like I just don't think I belong here and I don't see and after years of doing internships and like kind of somewhat seeing that at a lot of the places. But that's really the, I actually remember like that moment looking around the room being like I can't do fashion. Like it's not the place for me. And I was like, maybe I'll try music or

entertainment. I've heard horror stories from models talk about, like, things that they've experienced from their agents and, like, tasks they give them and body changes they have to make in short periods of time. I know you said you felt that way. Did anyone communicate anything like that? No, not in the PR world and, like, being an intern. No, it was just literally looking at my surroundings of what I saw. Interesting. We'll get to where you are today, but when you look at what you've done, Forbes 30 under 30, aligned with fashion, having your own line in over 200 stores now in a space that you felt you couldn't belong because of your size. Like, what would Remy today tell that girl then? Oh, it's insane. I remember literally looking at Forbes 30 under 30, like crying

when I was so unhappy with my job at that, when I was an assistant. Yeah. And literally just being like, I just like want, like I would die. Like that when I got Forbes 30 under 30, I think that was actually one of the biggest moments for me ever because that was so full circle. I wanted to be, I thought maybe one day, like, imagine I was in there as like a head of PR for something, not thinking that it would be for what I did, because that was just not a thing even. But it was just like very surreal. And I like, I mean, I couldn't have even told myself like what it would be because like TikTok didn't exist. Like none of this. It was just, I really was, when I got let go from Bravo, I worked at Jay's company title and I was doing partnership marketing there. And

and I got let go for COVID. So I actually loved that job. It was like there was things I didn't like to it. But I like finally started enjoying my job and then got let go again. So I thought I was just, even though that was for a reason, I was like, oh, wow. Like I am not going to be successful. Like I thought I was. Something is literally wrong with me.

I mean, getting let go twice is going to hurt your confidence and all of that. So yeah, I definitely didn't think that it was going to go the way it did now. Here's a trading secret for you. Back in my day, when we talked about creating. It was only about building muscle. In college and high school, it's all we talked about. That's not the case. Crotene isn't just for building muscle. It becomes a daily essential for your strength, focus, recovery, aging, and cognitive performance. And Momentus is making your daily creatine routine even easier with new creatine chews. These bite-sized lemon lime chews make

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weekend looked around and says no one looks like me I can't make it in this space even though I'm passionate about it what would you what advice would you get for like right now for career perspective and I ask it because there are people listening to this right now that are that version of what Remy was yeah I'm curious what you'd say to her I really do think it's like you have to like go for what you even like think would not be imaginable because for me like I know some people believe in the manifesting I think it's two things I think manifesting all these people are like I manifested this that comes with a lot of effort too so like I you can make something you could want something and if you want it I think you just need to act on it and a lot of people want it and believe in it

but then they don't realize they have to do they have to act on that and do something too so like I think at that time when I thought especially because of like my body I couldn't do something And then look, I gained weight. And that's how I started making videos being like I'm struggling because I gained weight. And like that is kind of the start to when I started like getting a following. So like my success. I hate to say because I also truly believe that my success also came from who I am as a person and my humor and a lot of other things. But I do think like it kind of shows too. It's like no. Like it doesn't have to do with you don't need to be like skinny to be successful. That was one piece. But. also I just think for anyone that like is like I wish I could be doing this right now like okay so like get up and start doing the work to do it yeah like I do think that it's possible is the point like I think like and the work meaning it doesn't mean that you need it like when I started making videos I did not have a following I did I lost my job I had zero dollars in my bank account because I spent it all on food because I was binge eating at the time like I was in a really bad

place and I literally just started making videos talking about me being in a bad place That's what happened. Unbelievable. One thing, like obviously podcast is called Trading Secrets. So it's getting trading secrets from your life that people could apply to their careers and life and finances and all the things. One trading secret, I think I take away from it. And you can tell me if I'm wrong.

But in that very room that you thought you couldn't make it because you didn't belong to what they were setting the standard to. There's actually a trading secret that if you're in a room and even if that feeling makes you feel uncomfortable, but there's something different about you than every other person there, that could be a superpower in itself, right? So it's kind of interesting that the very thing that made you feel like shame that you couldn't do it was the very thing that was differentiated from every other person in that room, which I think is pretty cool. And I agree with that because I always did feel like even more than my friends and stuff. Like I always felt a

little bit bigger, like curvier, different. And I actually always, I never, I wasn't upset about that. I actually was like, I'm special in a way. Like I kind of thought about it as like, okay, well, this will give people more, will focus more in my humor and things like that. So I do think I took something that I was insecure about and put it into, you know, making it into something else. Again, I really do think it was like a lot of that vulnerability and just talking about being honest and open. I do think timing was a factor. Yeah. I think I was literally just talking about this to my dad the other day. Like I, without planning had great timing, you know, like I think that at that, I think a lot of people want to be content creators today. And I do believe it's

harder. It's a very saturated space five years ago. I literally didn't even use TikTok during COVID. I was like I would never open this app. And then it was towards the end. My sister wanted to do like one dance with me. I'm like, this is so embarrassing. But I do think it's in the back of my mind. I was like, wow, there's not a lot of people on this platform yet. I'm just going to post something. And I think that like there are so many now. I think it was because of timing and there wasn't content created. Like there was always influencers. But I think TikTok created a different kind of like content creator that like you were allowed to like be who you are and I do believe it wasn't as much like because of looks. I think that that's why that was in my head to influencers in New York

City at the time were like fashion perfect edited. That was what like Instagram and influencers was to me. So I was like oh, I would never be that. Interesting. But then TikTok created I think this like new type of person to follow that was just like you could be yourself. Yeah for sure. And it wasn't about looks. Authentic and rawness like instantly started selling. This episode, trading secrets is brought to you by booking.com. I've got to say, if you're looking to grow your vacation rental business, this is the place to be. Booking.com is one of the most downloaded travel apps in the world, and for good reason. Since 2010, they have helped over 1.8 billion vacation rental guests find places to stay. That's billion with a beat. But here's the thing.

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I've heard alcohol, partying, clothes, all the money. the stuff. You can name it. This is the first time in 250 plus episodes. I heard someone said that I had almost $0 from binge eating. So tell me just a little bit about like talk to me through that. What is that look like? Yeah. Is that like, what were you spending on it? And, you know, what were some things that were happening during that? I would say it was a mix of Uber's and ordering food because I would like Uber started just like being like screw it and Uber home from work so I could like eat. But I was working at title at the time when it started. Okay. And I would just like almost like purposely not eat so I could be starving at the end of the day and get excited to like

rush home and order food. And I think that was because yes, I said I enjoyed the job, but it was a very stressful job. And I think the stress plus just, I don't know, like years of dealing with like eating issues, it just like all came to that point. And I just, I didn't realize that what was happening until it really became like this like everyday thing. But yeah, like I would like stop taking the bus and just start being like screw it. Like I almost think this like just thing went off in my head like I don't care and I would just like Uber home order from like seamless postmates whatever it was and just like literally sit on my floor and like eat but I literally did that to a point where I'd zero dollars again I do have to say like at that time when I

got let go I got because I started a TikTok and I had order closed to do that so so people understand like I did at the time was lucky and fortunate that my dad was helping me a little at that time when I got to zero dollars and was like you need a figure this out because I only was living off unemployment. Yeah. Because that was, I used that money to like order a lot of clothes that I would then return, but try them on for the halls. Gotcha. I didn't like wear them out, but I would like literally try them on for and the videos and then return them. So I was kind of like worked with what I had. But yes, I did spend like I used my savings on like food and Uber. Support for today's episode comes from Square. The system powering like half the

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growing into the millions. Check it out. Okay. So at this point though, we're at COVID. You've been fired from two jobs. You're out of the fashion industry and you're, are you unemployed at the time that your social media starts picking up? Unemployed. Unemployed. Didn't notice it. Social media starts picking up fast. Yeah, still applying to jobs, anything I could, but like no one was hiring, you know? Yeah. So yeah, that was just a mess of a time. Yeah. And you think about unemployment during that time, scary, scary high. But what, like, when was there, what did it look like that all of a sudden, like you're posting on lines, you're gaining traction? You're getting eggs. You're building a community to being like, I'm going to actually make some money on.

Yeah. It was that first moment. When I say that it was January, it's because I think I posted my first video in October, November of 2020, but it didn't turn real until January 2021. I remember it was like a free people hall that went viral. Press started picking it up and I was like, what's going on? And then, yeah, it was like we, someone wrote an article about me. This is insane. And then I had, I reached out actually, I would say for anyone just showing in any way because I'll say how I've used LinkedIn, which is insane. But I've messaged like 30 or 40 people from UTA just seeing that in bios of other TikTok creators until someone answered me. It was like, I need an agent. I didn't know what that even meant. I just was like, maybe I could make this a real thing because like I just

started getting like hundreds of thousands of followers. Like it was insane. I'm like, what do you do with this? How could I make money from this? But also still applying to other jobs because I was like, I never at that point until I spoke to UTA was like, and then. they told me this could be a career. I was like, no. Yeah, I heard you say at another podcast when UTA told you you can go full time. You're like, well, I still have my, my education. I was like, no way. I'm not going to be an influencer. No, but you can make impact and you can make a lot of money. I didn't believe them. When they told you, so now you're starting to think they could. Did they give you an idea of like projection? Like, hey, we think you can earn around

this much or this is what your rate should be. This is how much you should possibly. I think I had no idea then when we first talk because I literally remember like my first video. I'm sorry, I'm skipping apart that those months before I signed with the UTA, I tried like managing myself and negotiating myself. But like I remember like I did like a video and got $300 and was jumping for joy from this like smaller brand. So like I was trying to get that myself. I also was with a modeling agency at the time doing fit modeling, which is for anyone that doesn't know like you literally just like stand in a room and they fit the clothes on you. But you can make, like, decent money from that. So that was after a little while. That, I'm forgetting that.

How much can you make doing that? A few hundred dollars every time you go. Okay. Like, did you have to post for that? No, it's like, they don't even know, they don't even, they sometimes will call you like model one, model two. Like, they don't even say your name. But like, it was, I'm forgetting that that, because I'm like, how did I get clothes for, my dad was helping me a little when I had zero dollars. But that is what he was like, he helped me take model photos. against the wall got my measurements because my dad works in women's jeans so he helped was like you can make good money from fit modeling that's how before this blew up for me that I was making kind of

extra change on the side in order to like order the clothes sorry I got off track there but I don't want to skip any parts of my journey so then what was your question we were talking about like when did it become a real business for you and you mentioned that you made 300 bucks off your first small brand then you're making a couple hundred off these modeling fits and then but it wasn't until it was probably just like I don't remember exactly but probably my first deal with UTA

I don't remember me I wish I did at the time let's say maybe it was like I think took it from like they were like you can make 15K or something for this amount of videos and I was like no there's no freaking way

because just a year ago when you're employed you were making how much like 40 in a year oh sorry no when I went to title that was my second job So Bravo was 40. I'm pretty sure title was like 60. Okay. So you're around 60 grand. And now they're telling you in a couple videos, just from being authentic and telling your journey, you can make 15 grand. When you had, when you heard these

things and you said, I'm going to go full force into this. I'm going to put everything out there. Did you have a goal for your first year like 2021? Like I'm going to make 100 grand. Absolutely not. I didn't know what was going on. Like I don't even, I think my parents were also saying, what are you doing? And like, my dad's like very into business and all of that and was just like, what are you doing until I think it was until it was like a few of those deals that it was like, oh, this is real. This could be a job. And like I'm actually making more money now after a few videos than I did in like my salary. But no, there wasn't like a goal because I was just like, what's going on? It happened so fast. And I was me. I was like, I've never seen this money before.

Crazy. Yeah. So 2021 hits. You're flying. You're making 60 grand, then unemployed. When you think about 2021, you look back at that revenue year, how substantially greater was that year in social media versus what you were doing for 60 grand a year? You know, I don't know what I made in that first year, but like, that's a good question, actually, what I made in that first year. I'm going to guess it was over. This is just a guess, but 2021, TikTok was still up and moving. So, like, the brand deals weren't as big in TikTok because the brands weren't feeling

they were afraid of TikTok and I had zero I had like 10k on Instagram yeah so more brands were paying and now it's balanced out yeah I'm gonna guess you definitely I'm gonna guess over 200 grand year 2021 oh I think I think it a million wow I think because think of that that was if I think it was January 2020 yeah because you had the whole year yeah yeah and then I had the whole year and then like I don't know and I could be wrong but I think throughout that year it started getting bigger and bigger. I didn't have a business manager at the time. I did sign with UTA, so that's 10% I'm giving to them of every deal. And then I signed, and then I did the most important, I don't remember who it was, but someone told me, get a lawyer before anything with these

deals so you don't get screwed by any brand. So I give, I solve the same one to this day, and I give 5% to them. I did not have a manager at the time. I did it kind of backwards. I feel like a lot of people get managers first. But that's what I was giving away percentage wise. And then you're giving away a lot taxes. So I don't know, but I definitely was making a lot of money. When it comes to your health, information is everything. The more information you have, the better you can be proactive. That's why I choose function, because it's the only health platform out there that gives me data most people will never get and the insights to start doing something about it. Inside function, you get access to test over 100 biomarkers, from hormones to toxins,

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feeling kind of depressed and lost, ordering food eating it on the floor to now making over seven figures in your phone media. I was still doing that by the way, though. like that didn't get better so I was still spending on I was more aware of it but I was still struggling that that I'll never forget that whole first year that I was like blowing up I was really struggling mentally in terms of like things were going so fast and were so crazy I couldn't work on my mental health and things like that so I didn't like I just like put that to the side it was kind of getting worse and worse so I was still spending money and doing the same thing in terms of that. So the success in social media and the positivity you're creating in your online persona

brand while it was doing so good, and I've again, I've heard podcasts, I listen to you, you say people come on the streets and they grab your hand and say like, Remy, you changed my life. So you're making unbelievable impact. That impact actually didn't fill up the Remy that people don't know. No, it was making it worse for me. And I do feel like I had, but I would, I think there was like a decent amount of videos that I would say, like, I binge today and I'm not okay kind of thing. Like, I was pretty honest with that I wasn't happy. Maybe people weren't, like, were so just, like, more tied to the funny halls that they weren't realizing, like, I was not well.

But, like, I also was being honest that I wasn't in the best place. I think it was more into year two that I was like, okay, this is now a job. I'm making money. I don't need to say, like, maybe it was like two and a half year. I don't remember when it was, but there was a, like, there was a point when I was like, I have to take care of myself now and like now use this money towards like also therapy and doing things for myself because I can't like live this way. And the success doesn't matter unless like I feel good. Interesting. 2020, you got 2021 at the back. Life has changed dramatically for you in

one year. You have an agent now. Let's let's say we're projecting around a million bucks plus in revenue. You're hitting PR. People are talking about you. That's the definition of 180. Probably. Yeah. And I would say much faster than even some of these big reality stars that come off, because it takes them a while to even start earning money. You do it that quick. You go into 2022. When you look into the year, what's your new projection? What are you trying to make financially? What are you trying to achieve professionally? I, that was when I got my big Victoria Secret Pink deal. Okay. That was like a year. That was my first, I think, like year long deal. That was the biggest deal I ever got. That was like, yes, my name was like a more established. at that point, did a lot of press at that point, had a big following, and then was starting to grow on Instagram. And then I got this Victoria Seagrude deal, which I was in awe. That's a year-long partnership. Yeah. When you look at your, you've achieved a ton when you look at the partnerships, collaborations and even businesses you've had, but when you look at like

your, let's call it your Grammy of deals, would you say that's like one of your Grammys? That was, that was my biggest, because then I did, they've re-signed me for the next. next year. And I was just like, how is this even happening? So I still, I know it sounds like, like, you don't understand how fast this went that I still was like what is going on. But like at that point, it was like my parents making me realize like, because they were just like there is no way that this is happening. Like they've never, they don't even understand. So I didn't understand what was happening either. I'm also, I know, I was definitely spending in terms of buying the clothes for the halls and like I said food and like ubers. But I never was like, oh, I'm making

this money. I'm going to go out and buy like designer things and this and this. Like I was. was like right away my dad was in my ear like get someone to help you with your money like you need to put this into savings like I was very it was very quick to being like do not be dumb I just think like and I know it's hard to share some of those things right it's hard to share the dollars but when you peel away the perception of what it means to share dollars and you actually look at the story here like it that is like it's a dream you think about someone who's down and out changes a career that they're passionate about because of the way they feel and the way they look, goes to TV, gets fired twice, unemployed, completely broke, decides to be vulnerable, and within a year

period of time, creating so much impact that one of the biggest companies in the United States wants to hire you for a campaign that can change your life, the reason I think sharing dollar amounts and things like that is because, like, there's someone here that if just one person listening this can tap into something that's hurting them today or create pain their whole life and that they can create more revenue from it to change their family lives, to make more impact. To me, that's like, that's like as beautiful as it gets. Like that, that is a dream.

And that, and I agree. And that's why I do think a lot for me, because I think the more vulnerable and open you are as a creator, you are going to receive backlash. And I think as time went on, I've received more and more as you, that's just what happens if you are honestly any successful creator, it happens to everyone. No noise is the worst noise. Yeah. Right. Like we all want positive noise. Right. You need noise. And I think that every time I get upset about that, I do remind myself like what has happened for me and like how amazing it is. And I do like, no, I wouldn't want another job. It makes me realize like, no, I'm saying I was happy a title. Like, was I really happy? No, I wanted something more for myself. But I never knew that that was like possible. So I do agree. Like there is a way for everyone. Like I think there's like a lot of people think that like I've seen things that like I.

I've gotten this through my dad, because my dad's, like, in fashion. He does, like, lower-end women's jeans, and he's, like, does sales. Literally at that time, especially... Ding, ding, ding! We are ringing in the closing bell with the one, the only... The sad, curious Canadian. You guys heard him in the intro. He's still overcoming that loss of the Toronto Blue Jays.

But, David, we got a lot to talk about this. Recap, Rami Vader included. What are you thinking? We're turning the page on the Blue Jays. like I said in the intro, here we are, Remy Bader, look at this, energy's peaking. I got to match her energy. She was great. She was relatable.

All the things as advertised, to see her in this kind of format, to see her in this kind of scene. It was really, really great, Jason. And you could tell she's relatable by a couple things. And two things I want to tell. One, very open and honest about getting fired from her first two jobs. I don't know a lot of people who have been successful. who are openly talk about their failures and not even their failures

just part of their story. Nobody likes to admit getting fired, flat out fired. She said that she got fired because she wasn't a good assistant and perspective has let her realize that she wasn't a good assistant. I love that.

And then I love just her openness to talk about money because money doesn't make her. And I think that when money doesn't make someone's DNA, there's so much more willing to talk about it because it's a fraction of their story, a fraction of who they are. and that really shined through in this episode with Remy.

I mean, that really was cool what you said, even in the intro, about how, like, the timeline. Like, we, like, we started from, from day one to where she is today and, like, really dove into it. And I think exactly what you said is bang on. It's so cool to see, I just love the vulnerability and, like, kind of the rock bottom moments to where she is now and where she was.

And even the challenges she's gone through in the last couple of years, like, I just love her honesty. I love the honesty. And there's a lot to learn from Remy Bader. And I think that's a good question for you. It's like of all the things that we talked about, the money, the Victoria Secrets contract, the roller coaster, the highs, the lows, what was most surprising to you? Well, I don't know about surprising necessarily, but some things that kind of,

one thing that really stuck out that I guess you could say is surprising was her train of success. And really when you think about it, a lot of people in your guys' space, the train of success is to do the opposite of what you're supposed to do. And it was so interesting to kind of see how she came up in the PR world. And now that she's kind of gotten more of a following and been more successful and I feel like she's tied to a few more contracts, she's kind of leaning not more back into that, but it's just become a part of her life because of maybe, you know, a little bit of security and insurances that she has to have on things.

But she literally became relatable and started posting and getting a following attraction because she was talking about things that the PR, her PR train herself would say, don't talk about that. Don't be vulnerable. Don't talk about binge eating. Don't talk about your weight. Don't talk about being in a bad place. Don't talk about these things.

Don't call it these brands that they could do better, revolve, et cetera. But it's all led to her and who she is and what she is. So I just thought that kind of like going against the grain with traditional like trained PR advice was fascinating and kind of is her in a nutshell. It kind of feels like that model, like the trading secret that made, I mean, there's a lot of things that made Remy, what she is today. There's a lot of things. At the core, it's just who she is as a person.

However, I do think that ideology of like, just do it your way. And most people at first probably won't love it, but it's going to catch on. It feels like that's like the new thing. Like every angle, whether it's like politics or someone on social media, or entertainment that we're watching. I feel like everything I'm seeing right now, it's just like doing things differently to see what works.

And it feels like that's like now the norm. Well, you know what's so interesting about that is I agree. And I agree, but I also look at the perspective from like, she mentioned it. She's like, in 2020, when she started posting, influencers were perfectly curated content on Instagram. And that was like the image of an influencer.

And now you're seeing the pendulum swing to all of these successful influencers are now these really relatable. And I think TikTok has helped provide the platform to be a little more relatable, to be a little more off the cuff to not have such curated content. I wonder at what point when like being relatable and going against the grain starts to kind of like be the norm and it starts swinging back to like people craving this perfectly curated content. Is there a world for both? Does the pendulum swing? The trends come, you know, back around. it's going to be interesting when everyone's just kind of laying it all out there and being raw and authentic and people kind of like it becomes the majority that people want to start living in a little bit of fantasy world with some more curated content because I even see like I actually went on an Instagram deleting binge the other day just unfollowing accounts that I've followed forever and a lot of these people that I have followed for five plus years that are perfectly content like curators that have perfect content and it's like they've kind of like just fallen off whether they don't show up on my my page anymore or I don't click on their stories anymore, but it's more of these relatable people

that I keep finding myself with. What made you actually unfollowed those people? Was it because you saw their content or you're just like, wait, why am I following them? Yeah, I just every so often I'm on a long bus ride on a hockey trip and I'm doing some dooms growing and I'm just clicking mindlessly on stories and I'm like, they're, A, there's not this many people that I care about to just like really like consume their content. And I'm like clicking and clicking. I'm like, how is there so many people and then I start consciously like clicking and I'd be like do I do I want these updates do I want to see what this person's doing is this benefiting me in my life and if it's no it's no it's no it's no it's no fault to anybody it's not like I dislike anybody but I mean

there's people from Genesee OJ we graduated I graduated in 2012 it's 13 years ago there's people that I barely even associated with in college that you're friends with because your friends are friends or your friends dating her friend and whatever and it's like I no offense to those people but I don't if I if I won't pick up the phone and text them I'm not going to follow them That's interesting I also find like I could tell you as a social media creator What we're seeing with our content is it's actually not going to our followers anymore and if it go like it's like the part of like the strategy is like Create something that actually won't go to your followers because you need it to go to like the larger audiences and that's allowing us to grow social media I'm going to go back to remedy in a second

I do want to get your take on this I got to argument with my brother recently. He said there will be a moment in time where we look back at social media the way that we now look back at cigarettes and we will say that social media is the cigarettes of our generation. Do you agree or disagree? I will 100% agree. I don't think to the extent necessarily, but I think the disdain towards it a little bit. I also think of this. I think when I'm on my phone around Carter and I'm like, oh, no, I can't because Carter is going to see me on my phone and da-da-da-da everything our parents ever did we tried to not do everything our parents did was uncool whether it was smoke cigarettes whether it was do funny we like

the way that they used to dance like in their disco dances whether it was always like cringe and i think that carter is going to grow up and see me on my phone all the time and see how we us millennials and gen xes and gen z use social media and i think that they're going to grow up and be like no gross you like i i just think that it's going to change change in that in that retrospect that's why yeah i mean i i disagree with my brother i think there's a lot of things that are wrong with social media um i think there's a lot of negativity with social media of course and i think like the idea of the algorithm um can get a little a little intrusive because it has too much information to then maybe feed us things that actually we don't want to see

but we continue to watch but it's like really doing negative harm and i think the impact of social media and children is a whole different story. But like I think there should be massive regulation around that because that's just a whole different topic. That's to me, you know, has a ton of negativity. But if we just talk about adults only, I also think there's a ton of positivity of social media. I think there's stories like Remy. We can relate to people and build communities. There's education that we can get. There's a lot of people held accountable via transparency of things that weren't in the past. And that's why I disagreed with this comment because I don't think social media is maybe the best for our mental health. And I can understand why you might like

refer to it as cigarettes, but I also do think there's a lot of positives that come from it. So that's a whole topic that we can go down. I think to your point about Carter, though, I actually don't think we're going to have phones that much longer. Like when I'm seeing how AI is changing the speed at what's it changing, like I don't even think we're going to have apps that much longer. Like I think in 10 years from now, like the idea of like an application, like going to your phone and like having like, this is crazy. You have seven pages of apps. It's not going to exist. You're just going to tell AI to do what you want to do.

And that's what's going to do. And my question to you, David, is, did you use AI in the last week? So I dabbled in the AI a little bit. Dabble, oh, yeah. I kind of, I kind of went a little shortcut route because I just, I just wanted to see it. I threw a couple things in there. But I do agree with you now seeing the power of AI through chat DBT and asking it questions like I would with Google.

You really see that the need for a lot of these apps are, are going to be obsolete. One thing I was like, I said, I'm a hundred and eight, a hundred and ninety five pounds. I haven't worked out in six months. I want to make sure that I like get through the holidays without getting to 200 pounds. What are some daily like things I need to focus on in a, in a weight routine? And it spit out a couple things for me, very organized like you said, you know, make sure that you're getting X amount of steps in, you know, try fasting in these windows, making sure that you're staying away from these types of foods, blah, blah, blah.

And then I threw a little wrinkle in there and I said, I'm craving fast food What are some good What are some good deals For fast food spots In Rochester, New York And it spit out a couple things for me It spit out a couple things

That yeah It was Dave's hot chicken Was doing free tenders on Thursday through the app And a new Popeye's location Was doing buy one get one free So I was like this is crazy That it has all those information Hypersensitive, hyperlocalized

And kind of spit out a bunch of different different deals that we're going on. So it is definitely something that can be, it's, it's definitely a more, I think, like personalized, formatted, uh, direct information of like a Google like we were talking about last week. Here's what I'm going to challenge you to do with AI that's going to impact you more, which is going to cause you to use it more because I think I said this on News Nation yesterday, uh, in general. Okay. So there's a study that just came out that Gen Z is they use AI taking app. So, uh, During meetings, they'll put it on, and then it'll summarize it for them. They're saying that those that are adopting AI, on average, are making about $20,000 per year more than those who aren't. So I think that's one thing. But here's what I want you to do.

I want you to start using it for hockey. I want you to be like, I have 45 minutes of ice time. This is my team. I need another drill. There's two minutes and 40 seconds left. This is the team. We're playing. This is the score.

At what point does it make sense the most probability to pull my goal in? like it. Hey, I'm on the power play. We're 0 for four. What is something? I want you to start using it for your research the other teams. Tell me the top three teams. Tell me the top, top three players of the 2000, you know, 2025 Long Island Gauls roster, whatever it might be. Like, I like it. I'll use it. That's your challenge. All right. Now let's bring it back. Let's go back. Let's wrap this up. Remi Bader. You heard the million dollars, Victoria's secrets. I also think, okay, going back to the conversation, you talked about like the whole like, you know, social media thing is crazy. But like I think what's interesting with Remy is obviously we talked a

little bit about it, but she she had the surgery that I discussed. And she's, you know, she's lost a lot of weight from the surgery and has also gotten, you know, negative response to that. Of course positive, but also negative response to that. And like that's, I think it's just another example of like what you were talking about. I was like, okay, new things are in, right? We see O-O-Zem-Pix in and new things are in for people that want to make these changes. And it's almost like, again, while she's receiving, like, negativity for it, I told her when I talked to her, like, offline, I'm like, again, though, Remy, you're breaking the mold because you do what you want, what's best for you, and you are the secret sauce. So just keep doing what's best for you, keep spreading your message, keep sharing why, and what do you know? people are going to continue to see what you're doing.

And it seems like you're always breaking the ice for what's next. Yeah. And like you said before, it's when they're not talking about you that you need to get worried. People are still talking about her. Every time you reach some level of success, you're going to have haters. But I do have on my notes here when you guys talked about that.

She obviously said the negativity from the surgery does impact her a lot. It kind of goes with like the pendulum of like what I was talking about before, like being relatable and being like perfect in the kind of, what we consider influencers, but when you come in on an influencer whose bread and butter is like being, being relatable and being vulnerable and showcasing everything, you talked about creating boundaries as a creator. Is it a little bit of a slippery slope sometimes with that when you, you know, when you get used to and almost create your fame, I don't need to say fame, but like you're following through

like sharing all these information and then like something happening and trying to create boundaries with your followings where. Like she says, she goes, I have the right not to share everything when it comes to my health, which she absolutely does. I'm supporting her in that. But also so many people out there would be like, no, I followed you because you shared everything, because you were vulnerable when you were binge eating and this and that. And that's how I really connected with you. So now I don't feel connected. This isn't fair.

Like you've changed. Like talk to me a little bit about the slippery slope with that in the world that you guys live in. And I mean, you've experienced it a lot yourself. Yeah, I mean, you owe you owe no one anything. Like in this world, if you don't create boundaries, like you don't owe any, like no one, no one really knows Remy Bader. Right. We get to know what we see from Remy. No one knows me.

No one knows my core. No one knows the things I'm thinking when we turn this off and the things I'm undergoing, right? But we, you as a creator, get the option to choose what you do decide to share. And I do agree with you that there are some circumstances that, like, are, you know, there's, it's hard to say like a blanket statement that applies to everybody, right? But I get to choose what I decide to share. And there is a lot that I would be extremely rewarded for if I shared a lot. And I don't because you then have to connect with your own integrity, your own character,

the own things that protect your piece. And you then get to decide. That's a very, very good point. I guess I never really thought about it that way Because I was going to come at it with a place of like Well, do you get to decide Because you pouring it all out there In the first place kind of like

It's like the hook and lat It's like the bait and switch It's like I'm going to lure you in And then I have this following And then once I have this following I start making money And I have to get a little more private Because I have so many people that are following me

It's like oh my gosh Did I just kind of back myself in a corner But it's always it's just that It's just a really interesting career and way of making a living and providing for yourself and also like needing to stay sane

like how many more people have like given Justin Bieber a little bit of break now that he's streaming on Twitch 24 7 and his new little factory and there's constant nonstop clips coming out of like him actually having genuine conversation about why

he is the way he is now it's but the thing is is like the reason that Justin Bieber is who he is now is because he doesn't give a fuck what people think correct right like his value is not built on in this moment the world hates me it's and i think anyone who's successfully i mean i you know obviously like i've become like a full-on swiftly now but like think about it man for like six years the world like literally everyone was against her like everyone in hollywood the Kardashians when they were the hot connie west when he was like the guy like she was like now she's the number one artist in the world i think

anyone who achieves anything no matter what it is sports entertainment like the only way to continue to be the best of the best is that you just don't care you are true to you Paris Hilton like is known for like she'll never she said like I will never read one comment one person says about me because I don't like I'm not going to pay attention to it it's amazing you know and at the same time like Lindsay Lohan was the one in the comments like reacting to people like going off the deep end and it took her a lot of growth to like come back. So I do think the people that have done the most and have continued to like work on themselves to be the most like it just a I think they've done a really good job at saying like, hey, maybe that hurts my feelings. But

those people don't know me. It doesn't mean anything. I don't care if the world hates me right now because the truth always surfaces. It's going to take a while. It's going to take a minute. Sometimes it takes a lifetime, but like the truth always surfaces. And and to your point, it takes a lifetime. in the baby stages of what we're talking about in the realm of like life like we are still in the baby stages of really being able to see how this long term affects people in this industry and when you talk about these influencers who are so successful because they took the risk of sharing every aspect of their life and having this following we don't know how that affects them in 10 years because it hasn't been around for 10 years 20 years 30 years are they able to find

partners? Are they able to have kids and families and protect themselves from those families? I mean, we're seeing it with the Kardashians, I guess, because, you know, but they were more like the TV, but I'm talking like the influencers, the, the, the, the, the Remy Baders, the TikTokers who really came to emerge from COVID. Like, we're only five years in from the TikTok boom. Five years. That is nothing on the life scale of how this is going to really long-term impacts and people. So who knows, maybe Cardo, you know, and your future kids and my future kids or my current kids will be telling us when they're 25, 30 years old, hey, did you know this person? We did a case study on them in our class, but they probably won't even go to class

because it's the future and it freaks me out. Let's stop talking about it. Let's stop talking about it. It's a wild, wild recap. There's so much to dissect, so much to know. When you say like 10, 20, 30 years, I'm like, TikTok won't be around, but think about Facebook, man. It started before like 25, 20, I remember, 2006. 2004 or 5, I didn't mind. 2005 or something. My high school girlfriend made my Facebook page. Yeah, 20 years, man. 20 years. Crazy. All right. This is a wild recap, 20 years. This recap is 20 minutes, but most importantly, Remy, you can definitely hear this loud and clear from David and I. We are fans of you. Keep doing what you're doing. We're proud of you and you're an inspiration to both of us.

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