Trading Secrets - 276. Blake Horstmann & Giannina Gibelli Return! From parenthood and wedding planning to talking finances in therapy, BTS of navigating new content-spaces, growing as a family, and what’s next Episode Description:

Episode Date: February 2, 2026

This week, Jason is joined by two people who have grown in this space together and are now building life side by side in the business and personally,  Giannina Gibelli and Blake Horstmann!You know Giannina from Netflix’s Love is Blind and Blake from The Bachelorette and Bachelor in Paradise, but what’s really exciting is the chapter they’re in right now. They are parents, got engaged, planning a wedding and recently started co-hosting different and together, which means they’re not just sharing a life, but sharing ideas, goals, and building something as a team. Blake and Giannina open up about what getting engaged looked like after becoming pregnant, how Blake chose the ring (and the conversation around diamonds vs. lab-grown), and how their spending habits have evolved over the years. Giannina shares how motherhood has reshaped her content and brand partnerships, including behind-the-scenes insight into some of their biggest deals, the noise that comes with the mom-content space, and how they protect their peace—and their child. They also dive into the financial realities of having a baby, talking money in therapy, Blake’s loyalty to Southwest Airlines, the time, energy, and investment poured into their home, and why the nightclub industry is currently struggling. From navigating the “love tax” when booking wedding vendors to refusing to compromise on what they truly want (with a little girl math sprinkled in), they reflect on what the future holds in entertainment—and the advice they’d give their younger selves.Blake and Giannina reveal all this and so much more in another episode you can’t afford to miss!Host: Jason TartickCo-Host: David ArduinAudio: John GurneyGuest: Giannina Gibelli & Blake Horstmann Stay connected with the Trading Secrets Podcast! Instagram: @tradingsecretspodcast Youtube: Trading SecretsFacebook: Join the Group All Access: Free 30-Day Trial Trading Secrets Steals & Deals!Square:With Square, you get all the tools to run your business, with none of the contracts or complexity. And why wait? Right now, you can get up to $200 off Square hardware when you sign up at square.com/go/tradingsecrets!Rula:Rula patients typically pay $15 per session when using insurance. Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at https://www.rula.com/tradingsecrets Momentous:By this point in the year, routines are real - not aspirational. And when it comes to supplements you’re taking every day, trust really matters. But choosing the right supplements can be confusing, especially in a low-regulation space, which means a lot of products cut corners, skip testing, or don’t fully disclose what’s inside. Head to livemomentous.com, and use promo code TRADINGSECRETS for up to 35% off your first orderFunction:Own your health, and start with your heart. Function gives you access to 160+ lab tests each year, including advanced markers for heart health, inflammation, stress, hormones, and toxins for $365 a year. That’s a dollar a day. Learn more and join using my link. Visit www.functionhealth.com/TRADINGSECRETS and use gift code TRADINGSECRETS25 for a $25 credit toward your membership.

Welcome back to another episode of Trading Secrets. Today's episode feels more like sitting down with friends than doing an interview because we're joined by Gianina, Jabelli, and Blake Horseman. Two people have grown in this space together and are now building life, side by side, in the business and personally. You know Gianina from Netflix, Love is Blind and Blake from the Bachelorette and Bachelor in Paradise, but what's really exciting is the chapter they're in right now. their parents, they're planning a wedding.

They of course got engaged. They recently started co-hosting different work together, which we'll get into and hosting, which means they're not just sharing life. They're sharing ideas, goals, and building something as a team. We sat down with them not too long ago and got into the ins and outs. What's it's like moving in together. The finances is a couple. Building a business.

How much you made before shows what you're making now. The DJ career and all. We have so much to hit on. from the finances of a wedding. What is a ring cost? What does life look like today? How do housing costs play into the game? Who pays for what?

There's so much shit to talk about. She and I'm Blake. Thank you for being on trading secrets. Yeah. Let's go. You guys are back. Man, after you saying all that, I'm like, man, a lot has happened over the last like three years.

Oh, I can. It's insane. That's a great segue. Let me tell you what's happened. Well, you guys, you moved in October 2020. You came on this podcast. I don't know if you guys remember. We played a game of like,

how much do you think is? on each other's credit card per month. How much do you guys make per month? Do you have a joint bank account? How much do you want to make? We made that. March 2024, you have a baby together. Keith, the most beautiful baby in the world.

October, 24, you get engaged. And now in 2006, you got a wedding. So we have so much to cover. Let's start with the engagement. That ring is popping. Throw that thing up to the camera right here. Talk to me about the ring engagement process through social media, not through social media.

How do you know how much you spend? How did you budget for it? Help our listeners with that. Yeah, all great questions. Because so obviously I knew I wanted to marry G. And it was when we found out we were pregnant, it was one of those moments where I was like, well, like, should I just do it now? I kind of like low-key asked her.

I was like, do you want to get engaged? You know what I mean? So I just asked you be meant. And she's like, no, like, let's like take our time. I don't want it to feel rushed because I was like, I'll marry you now if that's how you feel. You know what I mean? Because sometimes, you know, I want to be?

How unexpected was it? He was the best surprise ever. The biggest surprise ever. The biggest surprise. It was one of those moments where it was like, oh shit. It was very much an oh shit moment. Well, it was one of those moments where I always knew I wanted him to be the father of my children. It was like the feeling, my body knew, everything.

I felt even when I walked into the house for the first time, I was like, I am raising my kids here. So that was always like a known thing. And, you know, back then it was, I was talking to a couple friends at the time. They're like, so you're trying to get pregnant? And I'm like, no, I'm not. They're like, no, but you are. And now looking back at it, I'm like, wow, I'm a fucking idiot. Like, I wasn't doing anything.

It's one of those things. We were being an idiotic, of course we got pregnant. It was one of those. Because it was just like, well, if it happens, it happens, it happens. You're saying, like, there was no, no, no, barriers, no nothing. We were just living life. Yeah. And your thought was just like, if it happens, it happened.

It's meant to be. Yeah. And I would tell my friends, well, if it happens, I wouldn't be mad about it. It would just be, you know, part of what I already know is going to happen eventually. Anyway, we did get pregnant July of 2023, a year and a half into our relationship. Wow. So it already felt, yeah. And it felt like I had been with you forever.

But then looking back at it, I'm like, wow, we were only a year and a half in. So we learned a lot about each other even more through that process. I'm not picking on timetables. Me neither. Especially as you get older. Like a year and a half could be in a two years. if you're having the right conversation. Exactly.

And you know how it is in this industry, too. It's like we had all the judgment, right? Of like, we're not married. We haven't been dating long. It was like all of those judgments. It was like she's, you know. It wasn't even that. Well, maybe that was for you, but I think for us,

and this is a very transparent conversation. This is 100% what it was. But what you said, you're like, I can marry you right now. And I'm like, no, honey. Like, I just want it to be us for like a little bit. And then, you know, we'll get married whenever we want to. like there's just no rush. We're going to get married anyway.

You know, it was a completely understanding. But then I get this ring and everyone's like, oh, that's the shut up ring. Yeah, that's like, oh my God. The shut up ring. Like stop asking me to marry me. Yeah, stop asking. Here you go. Here's your ring.

Shut up. And I'm like, there's nothing that I can do to fucking convince you guys. I don't care. I'm having a great time. I'm like with the love of my life. I'm having my baby. And I just got the ring of my dream. So I don't give a fuck what you call it.

But yeah, apparently this is a shut up ring. Well, that's a thing. That is a play ring, right? She shut up. That is unbelievable. We've just done everything on our own timetable. And when it came to, like, you know, the ring itself, I knew what she wanted. We had chatted about what she wanted, you know, the size, not necessarily the size, but the style.

What did you want? I'm going to tell you really quick. So this man, one day out of the blue, I'm getting my nails done. And he just texted me. He goes, so what kind of ring do you want? I'm like, oh. having a panic. Excuse me? Like, what the and I, like, I have goosebumps just thinking about it.

I like, and it was before we were pregnant. We knew we were pregnant. Yeah, it was before we knew. It was before. Okay. You're like, make sure that the people know. So he asked me this before we were pregnant, the whole thing. It's a wild text to just bomb out there, by the way. It's just so unhinged. I don't know why

I did. But it's just so, like, nonchalant. It was great. And so I, like, texted, like, my cousin, I was like, what kind of ring do I want? She's like, oh, you want, you know, the clarity of the cut, la-la-la. I was like, I literally just showed him. Sent him back, four tags, four photos. Okay. Never talked about it again. I wanted to be a surprise.

Never. We didn't go try them on. He wasn't like, oh, are you sure? Nothing. Wow. And then a whole ass year goes by. And we're in, you know, Madrid. And he like nails down, like, shows me the ring.

And I just go, like, completely lost my breath because he nailed it with like four photos. Wow. A whole year got involved. didn't talk about it. Like, it was like, this isn't, you know.

So I got my nails done, the same exact shade of pink for like a year waiting for you to propose. That's hilarious. Amazing. All right. Well,

talk to me about the money. How do you finance for a ring? How do you budget for it? What do you think? What advice do you have for people? Obviously, I think as, as like,

most men, like, I had no idea. Like, I started some scratch. You know what I mean? I had never, even though on the show,

technically, I had like picked a ring out. Like, you know, I didn't do any research or anything like that. So I started from scratch, and I really did. Like, I went into Brilliant Earth a few times.

There was a few times I went into the showroom. I was looking at certain things. And the most of, I knew the diamond that I wanted. Like, I knew the size. I knew the clarity, the oval shape. But the band was really important to me, because I knew that I didn't want just like a regular band. I didn't want like a gold band.

So when I found the band that had those little, like basically little diamonds inside the band, and then we put the rock on top, I was like, this is it. She's going to die. I died. I was like, she is going to die. I need to clean it.

So Brilliant Earth was fantastic. They helped me. I went in there because obviously I shouldn't have been nervous. I knew she was going to say yes, but I was still so nervous picking out the ring and actually dropping down on me. So they were great. And, you know, obviously Brilliant Earth wanted to work with me on it, especially with PR and things like that. So all in all, like it was a great experience. And as far as the budgeting process went, I mean, geez.

G likes nice things. We'll just put it that way. She likes nice things and she expects certain things. But at the same time, there's more coming. The face just changed. She went from this to like say what this? But at the same time, she didn't expect me to drop like 100K on that. Like she didn't expect me to go into debt.

We have a family. We have a house. I have a mortgage. Like she didn't expect like, hey, I need a $100,000 ring. Like it wasn't like that. which thank God because I couldn't have done it. I hate spending money. Talked about that a lot.

I don't like spending money. So like that was a big thing. It was like at least I didn't feel the pressure to like, I have to drop six figures on a ring. Otherwise, she's not going to say yes. You know what I mean? So in that sense, so I knew that I wanted to get a beautiful ring that didn't put us into debt with a son.

At that time, Keith was already born. So yeah. So in that sense, budgeting wise, I felt some, I don't know, grace, I guess,

because I knew that she didn't expect me to spend six. figures. Call me crazy, but that looks like $100,000. And that was the key, too. That is the key. Like, I wanted to find one that looked like it was six figures, but didn't break the bank. All right, let me ask you this. Do you have a take? This is a G question. Because it's a very, it's a topic

right now that I feel like a lot of people are going left and right. It's a question for you too. Do you have a take on natural diamonds for slab grown diamonds? This is the woo-woo part of me coming out. I'm in Aries. My birth stone is a diamond. I feel like

these gems carry energy. So that's what I really enjoy about it. But as far as just like lab grown diamond versus I don't think I'm educated enough to really know what the difference is. But if it looks like that, who hell cares, get your diamond. And I think it's great that people are able to now

get engaged and not go into crazy debt but still get what you want. So I think it's a happy medium. I don't know what it's doing to the environment. I don't know how. Sure. I don't know any of that, but I'm not, I'm not mad about it. But I do. The only reason why I would be partial to like a natural diamond is because I believe that they carry energy.

Yeah, she's a huge. Yeah, earth energy. But I think it's pretty cool now. Like she said, I just think it's cool. Now people can choose. You know what I mean? Like before a lab growing diamond, you couldn't choose. You knew that you had to, you know, overpay for a diamond.

Right. So now it's just cool that people can decide. And there's pros and cons to both. So, yeah. But this worked for us. I love it. Well, congratulations. That ring is off.

Thank you. I'm happy. You killed it. Get well done. Let's move into spending a little bit. You just alluded to the fact you're a little bit more frugal on the frugal side. Often in this episode, I'm going to reference some of the numbers you threw out the last time we had you on. So I want you to guess. One of the questions I asked you, Gene. It was how much do you think that Blake spends per month if you tapped into it?

How much do you think he spends for a month? And then I'll share with you how much he said last time. 15 to 20. 15 to 20. Blank, how much you think you spend per month? month. It's about right. I think 15 and 20. All right. Back in 2023, you said 35K. And he acknowledged that all in with business expenses. He spends 35K. Thank God. Thank God. I think it's come down because I'm not traveling quite as much with the little one. Okay. That makes sense. It's come down. Now, let's flip the

script here. I asked you, Blake, how much you think Giannina spends on her credit card monthly? And you gave a number before I tell you what that number is. What do you think that she spends on a monthly basis all in. This is burnt into my brain because I couldn't believe her answer. So I specifically remember this moment. Specifically. I think I said 20K, but I know now it's way more than that.

Way more? What did she say back in the net? You said, I think it was around 20. She wrote down that she spends 8K. You were like, you were like, bullshit. No way. Okay. What is it? Now I think it's 10 to 12.

That's good. 1012. Okay. So it has gone up. Now that connects to another conversation we had back in the day is 2023. We talked about your career, which I thought was so interesting that you were making like $19 an hour. But you could also get commission sales based on the hair straighteners you sold at mall kiosks. And you talked a little bit about the fact that like you could price it accordingly. There was people in the comments going off. Do you remember that? I remember. So I know you just did a podcast about reading comments. I prefer not to. And it hurts my engagement. but I just don't read them that way. So you just won't, you won't respond back, you don't read them. I respond back, but if I know that it's going one way or another, I'd rather not read it because it does affect my authenticity. Interesting. So I'd rather just, like, say my bullshit and just, like, be out rather than listen to other people

responding to my bullshit. I love it. I love it. But I remember that. So I don't remember that. I remember on the podcast you talked about how, like, based on how they approach you or, like, how certain answers you raise the price, right? certain answers, what she's wearing.

I mean, I would very much just, like, read you from head to toe. And then I would throw out a price and see if you're okay with that, then I would leave it at that. And if you weren't, then I would put it down. Also, this wasn't my only job, okay? I did a lot of other things.

Yeah, I'm like... I sold flat irons in the mall for, like, one year, and I made triple what I did at, like, a 9 to 5. Remind me how much you made again doing that? So let's say my 9 to 5, working social media, working with, like, let's say, universal Orlando is. Yeah.

I would make... $1,900 after tax doing that. And then selling flat irons at the mall, I would make $6,000 a month. Wow. And I think part of the thing was you knew the prices that they cost. So you could also do like, I'll give you two for this price, right? Or I buy one, get two. And this is the price because you knew your margin.

Exactly. So yeah, it depends on the margin. So I would, knowing how bad I am at math, like this was pretty cool of me, that I was able to just like, okay, if you're going to buy this flat iron at $350, my minimum is So I know I have $280 to play with it. So then I can do a full set, which is like a combo, which is $1.15 men, and I can throw that in there. And I can also throw a bunch of hair products in there for free. Right. So, oh, you're for $350?

Okay, great. So I'd finish doing your hair. Fantastic. Crash your credit. She's like, oh, well, you know, I'm going to come back. Actually, you know, I'm about to leave. So I can throw in this full set right now because it's my last one and some hair products if you just take it right now. Okay, here you go.

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Then you talked about last episode that some of your biggest months in January, you made 150K that month. And your goal was to then make seven figures a year in this social media, digital media, entertainment space. That was 2023. Have you broken the seven figure gross income level yet? Did you accomplish that goal? Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah, she says. Can you give us a little more? We did a good job. I mean, we didn't get a yeah. We got an oh yeah. Oh, yeah. I think so after that, I think it was like a good year after that I had the best year of my life. It was 2024, I think.

It was 2024. I had the best year of my life. And it was just. What sparked it? What sparked it? Was it the best year? I mean, two huge deals. Two of those.

Okay. So it was a combination of everything. Okay. So I just had a baby. So I entered this new market and of, you know, moms and things like that and family. I went from like a cute girl traveling around to, oh, no, she's a trusted mom. Now knowing how much motherhood takes a toll on you and how vulnerable you can be, that does give you a sense of credibility or it's like, no, I trust this for my child.

I trust this for me because it helps with my time, et cetera. So that entered me into a new market. But then what was really, really cool was it's just like all the stars aligned. A week after giving birth, I got a commercial with T-Mobile. And the one thing I told my manager, I was like, oh, I just hope they don't have me in a bikini.

The entire thing was me in a bikini. Like literally it was a month out, I think officially. A month after. A month after I flew out with my baby. Yeah, we flew out. He was just a little... And I'm like pumping in between scenes. Oh, my God.

And like acting, which is... It's not something that I, like, trained for, but something that came out pretty naturally. And I was doing it in English and in Spanish. So I, like, entered this market again. And then somehow it did so well that they contracted us again to do, like, a follow-up. And then they got Blake. And I got on the commercial, too. Wow.

He got on the commercial. So the commercial was huge. Entering that market was huge. And it was just, it's such a cool blur at this point. But I also was able to travel because I just set my, life up for that. So I was doing things at home, doing TV, doing appearances, doing his shows and like doubling up and things like, I just did everything. I thought that, you know, maybe being a mom, becoming a mom, I was going to slow down because you never know. Sure. But it just lit a fire under my

ass. I love it. I have questions a little bit about the mom content as it brings a new market, a new opportunity. Before I get into that, I'm curious, I think so many people are interested in this space. You have, I think, Gen Z and Gen Alpha who dream to be doing what you do. You have millennials and Gen X and boomers that kind of sometimes roll their eyes at this industry, but it's growing at a rate that's too big to ignore, $500 billion by 2030. Talk to me about the biggest deal you had in 2024. You don't have to say the brand, if that will create any type of trouble, but the biggest brand, give people an idea of behind the industry, like, what are deliverables for that and like what's in a rough around rate for something like that and again no brand no

drip but just like educating like hey this is the type of thing i did a you know 100 grand with three posts and three stories and an appearance something like that well the the biggest one just because it was so massive was definitely team mobile they came twice they i had to do an appearance for them and then also social were deliverables and it was three days of filming and it was it was three days of filming the first time. And if you've ever been on a, you know, a commercial film or anything, it's in 12 hours of intense fucking, like, in front of the camera. Say that, look this way, repeat that lines over and over and over again. So that, that played into it. They paid you for your time and then for your social. Yeah. And then for an appearance. And then also the double

dipping with English and Spanish. She double dipped, yeah. So, I would have people, sorry, I would have people DM me being like, like from Mexico or from whatever. And our buddy DJ Silver was in Cancun. And he's like, I just saw Chi on that on that. That's great. You know what I mean? So, yeah, it was really cool. It was such a big thing that I became like, they were like, are you the Nadiata girl? The Nadiyaug. Because basically, T-Mobile did this thing where they made this commercial look like a reality TV show.

And it worked because it got so many impressions and the whole thing. And so people were coming into my comments being like, are you the Nadiata girl? And there were, you know, everyone did a great job. But there were 15 cast and I got the most green time. Let's go. I think you were the only, were you the only one doing bilingual? English and Spanish. Anyway, so it was really successful.

It was great. I did a lot of posts for them. I did, I gave a lot of my time. I went out with a newborn a month later. Like, it was, it was justifiable, but it was very intensive. But it was so much fun. I think it really opened up a whole new door. So I did, let's say, six posts.

Through the one or just the one? Both. Both? Six posts. Six posts. Four days total of 12 hours. filming, had to fly out the whole thing. And that was like, just over two. Fantastic. Massive. And then they, I also got a lot of repeat baby mom content with

baby formula. And I think I'll say this, a baby formula that I worked with, one real, three stories, was 75,000, 80. So between that, wow, between those two deals, you're talking about 300 grand. Just about, yeah. Unbelievable. That's awesome. Congratulations.

You deserve it. You should be proud of that. And I think a lot of people that look up to you as a creator should know that there's like a lot of opportunity when you take shots, when you do things like that. When you take shots, when you say,

yeah. And when you just find a way, obviously we had a month old. I couldn't be there the first set, the first day of set because I was DJing somewhere. I can't Nashville maybe. I couldn't be there. We have a nanny and she's amazing.

She saves our life. So she was there. But it was like, gee was just like, you know what? We got to make this. This work. We got to make this work. And that's kind of how we vision our family and our business and how we kind of, we just got to make it work. I don't believe in the whole thing of like, that's not my job.

I don't believe in that. And I think the reason that a lot of people now believe in that, that's not my job. I feel like I stand out because I do go above and beyond. And that's what gets me repeat business. So that's the name of the game for me is repeat business. And I pride myself because that's something that I'm really good at. I love it. It's a great perspective.

It's great learning. We just showed a very great side of that 22. 24, 300K, two deals. I think what's cool about this show is we're not here to just pump our chest. We're also to show sides that come with frustration and challenges in the industry. I think with mom content opens up that new market of mom support and mom noise. So you enter it. Of course, you can make money off it and enter a new industry,

but you also have to deal with a lot of headaches from it. What is probably one thing that you've been either scrutinized for that's irritated? You have created a lot of like headaches or frustration by now being in this space. where you're showcasing mom content, like that they're, you know, coming at you for or something like that. I've had to set up boundaries pretty quickly. And this was all really new to me. I knew that I wanted to share my journey as a mom, but I didn't want to invite everyone into my home. That's not healthy in my perspective.

One of the things that gave me a lot of noise was the sleeping. I was just going to say that. The co-sleeping. Yeah. When I was like, oh, yeah, we were co-sleeping. Also, we're traveling. All these things. I've put up, like, a good, healthy barrier.

But once in a while, now, once in a while, you'll get people being like, just giving you the worst horror stories you've ever heard in your entire life. And you're just like, I'm not here for that. I feel for you. I'm so sorry that this happened to you or your friend's friend or whatever, but I don't want to invite that energy into my life at all. And so that's, it's not just like, it's not like annoying. It's scary. And so that's where I've had to just be really firm on like, either not showing things anymore, which I feel like pretty good about, or just showing us one day to the

next, hey, we're here in Italy. That's it. I didn't show you the journey as much. I'll show you which toys kept him, you know, entertained on the flight, but I'm not telling you anything else because the scary stories are really overwhelmed. It's like, it's just one of those things, like you, for like a toy. Like, you could buy a toy and give it to one. And also somebody being DMs me like, oh, my friend's son died from choking on that toy. It's just like, come on.

I'm sorry that happened, but like, yeah, it's just like, it's always, and there are horror stories out there. And the co-sleeping thing was, it's so interesting because I all post about co-sleeping. And the people who do co-sleep are incredibly passionate about it and so pro-co-sleeping. And like, it's best thing I ever did. Like, he's, you know, he's far and far, you know, as far as like, he can read. and right, whatever, and then people who don't co-sleep are very passionate about not

co-sleeping. He can do his taxes at 18 months, like, cool. So it's just, there's a very big pendulum there where, like, there's nobody in between. Like, I just feel like everybody's super passionate about co-sleeping or super passionate about not co-sleeping. That's everything. That's been in really, everything when it comes to kids. So has that

deterred you then from sharing different parenting styles that you put into place? 100%. To protect your peace. Protect my peace. Also, also just protect my child. Like, the more that he grows up, the more independence that he has, you know, he's not, like, latched on to me anymore.

Yeah. So, I mean, I can talk about this all day and I can easily go into a freaking panic attack. But... Let's not do that. The more... The more... The more that, like, he just gets older, you're just like, no, like, I need to keep you closer.

Interesting. You know? And she'll less and less. Yeah. With Heath in the picture now, 22 months. Apps, I mean, this is the most beautiful baby I've ever seen. But I want to ask about just the finances with a child. What are some things that either, like, either rules you've done or things that you have implemented for savings, or let's just talk about what's been the biggest expense that's, like, caught you by surprise.

So I will say, obviously, you can't, you think you can budget for a child, but so many things pop up. Like, so, you know, whether it's doctor's appointments, whether it's whatever it is. What do you think's been the biggest expense to you? His birth. Oh, well, yeah. How much was his birth? His birth. I feel like we're still paying.

No, we're not, but we got bills for a really long time. His birth was like, it shouldn't have been that much, but I feel like it ended up being like 8 to 12,000. 8 to 12,000. You know what I mean? Like with good insurance. 8 to 12 grand? Yeah.

And that's with good insurance. Like I can't imagine without, yeah. Get out of here. Yeah, to have a baby. Unbelievable. No wonder people are doing it at home. Yeah. With a midwife.

Wait, how, I didn't know that. How can people pay for that across the country? Well, some can't, some go into debt just to have. have a baby. It's crazy. Yeah, that's horrible. That's why people aren't having kids. Yeah, that's another reason why people aren't having kids. Maybe I didn't choose the right insurance. Maybe I'm not in the bracket of whatever this or that. But for us,

I just kept getting bills and kept getting bills. And I had a great birth. I didn't stay that long. I didn't have to get, you know, ambulance over. I had, I was in and out. I had the epidural. It couldn't have been simpler. Wow. And it was really expensive. I can't imagine if you had, you know, complications.

God knows what that bill was. Yeah, exactly. Or like, let's say the baby was in the NICU. Yeah. The NICU for a few days or a week or two ago. It's just... It adds up, man. I don't know. So I think that will always stand out to me as like the most expensive thing.

But we have a savings account for him. We're literally saving up for his retirement. I love that. That's awesome. And he has a United Members account. Yeah, he's got all the Sky Miles. Oh, that's a trading secret right there. A baby can have a Miles account once they turned two.

I didn't know that. So like for the wedding, we, we, we, we, we, bought we made him a can't go see he'll be two for the wedding we made my god he's gonna have like 10 million miles but the way you guys trapped so many miles you have to buy a baby its own ticket after two so that's when it's is there a discount no no wait bullshit you have to buy a seat no bullshit you have to buy a seat you have to buy a seat you get you a two seats he says on your lab you have to buy three seats yeah after two yeah that is bullshit it's insane we'll give you a trading secrets though well this is a good one so he's he got me

into Southwest. Southwest, okay, whatever, say whatever you want about it. With Southwest, after certain points, you can have a companion pass and that person is free. So, he had me as his companion

for free forever. Heath was free for two years. So we all three flew with just one ticket. Wow. And so now... That is a trading seat. I am a Southwest, like,

I'm very loyal, I'm very loyal, I know they've made some changes that people don't like, but if you're loyal, you're loyal to Southwest, you still get the free bags, you still get the great seating for free, and the companion pass is the greatest thing ever. And now she's got a companion pass. We made sure to get her a companion pass last year.

So I have a companion pass for Heath, and she has a companion pass for our O pair. Okay. So now we're two for four. So that's, it's been the best. And now they only fly domestically in Mexico, so obviously that changes things. But it's the best thing we've ever done.

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culture comes into play. Jadina, you talked about the fact that you're Venezuelan and Italian and you have a more traditional culture. Like, you'll take care of the house and you expect the house to be paid and taken care of four. Now you guys are together as one. A couple years later, have those money rules, tricks or tips are just working as one changed at all?

We go to therapy for those. One question. Love and money. What are like the time without having too much? like the money and therapy talks like what is the biggest contention point? That is literally all we talk about in therapy is financing.

Right, actually? Yeah. It's so fucking healthy that you do it. Yeah. You talk about it, right? How many couples are there that don't talk about it and then they get divorced? I could tell you, it's the number one reason.

My parents literally got divorced because of money. Wow. Yeah, exactly. And so that's one of the things that I was like, that will never happen. If we get divorced, it's because some shit went down, not because of money. And I think when it comes to, you know, partners, it's always going to ebb and flow, right?

And you don't know if, God forbid, you know, I lose my job, then he's the breadwinner. Or, you know, somehow my, I have a really great year. Then I'm the breadwinner. Like, it's good to just be able to, like, ebb and flow with it and not have so much of, like, a power dynamic. I'm, like, you know, I made 10 times more than you this year. So, you know, I'm more valuable than you. So what we have in place with that to avoid, you know, power trips, is he found and bought the home that we live in before he met me. I fucking sold my stocks, sold my coins.

I was like, I want this house. So I spent every time. You were sling beers. You were getting dumped on TV. Yeah, dude. Every dime I ever earned went into that house. So it's very important to me. It's a point of pride for me.

It's like a point of pride. Like it's my dream house and I worked my ass off to get it. G's made it into a home. It was a house before. She renovated the whole thing. It's beautiful. Love everything about it. It wasn't what you've bought.

You literally wouldn't recognize it from what I bought it. Yeah, yeah. She has dropped a lot of money into the house. Yeah. It's our house now. It is. It's our house. It's our family home.

So in that sense, it's still under my name. Yeah. But not for all. Oh, and so G is like, I put my name on that shit. Well, because I renovated it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, like, I told her, I was like, listen, let's get married.

And actually, I looked at, it's a lot harder. I don't know if you're aware, it's a lot harder to do that than I thought. You have to add to the deed, right? I want to create a trust. Okay. With the house. And like, it's a little more, there's a lot more to it than I thought. Like, I've done some research.

I need to really sit down and, like, really invest some time into this and do it right. Because I wanted to trust to the point where then we could pass it to Heath without him having to pay, you know, a bunch of taxes on it and all that kind of stuff. Like if we die? Yeah, like things like that. So that's in the works and especially, obviously, obviously, after we get married, it's our home, you know, it's our house.

And your argument for having your name on the home is? Because I renovated the fuck out of it. So you're like, I put money into this. I put money into this. Your worry about potentially adding the name to the house is? So there's no worry. It's just, it's like mine. Like I blood, sweat, and tears went in that home.

And so like I said, it was a point of like pride for me. But at the same time, I'm still proud that. that now we have this home as a family, you know what I mean? And for a while, I wouldn't say didn't want to do it, but it never even crossed my mind to put her on it. Me neither. Yeah, just never really even injured my mind. It was, she would always, she wanted a house and she wants to buy a place in Florida eventually.

I could, you know, a little like winter home, summer home type vibe. And so it never into my mind. And then one day, you know, we thought of actually, I think it was in therapy. I think she, she suggested it helped the power dynamic and just like that. To help the power dynamic and just like that. And I was like, it's a great idea. Yeah. And I was like, you know what?

I'm definitely willing to do that. And so it is going to happen. It's just, yeah, there's a lot more paperwork than I anticipated. But he pays the mortgage. I pay the mortgage. And then I pay everything in the home. Food. Food.

Yeah, I'll pay, let's say we need like a new couch. Yeah. Things like that. So I'll pay what goes inside of the house. He pays the house. Yeah. I think it's so, I think it's important to do that because obviously you have handshake agreements, but you need some kind of contractual protection of some sort.

We had a girl that came and talked to me and her husband was really struggling with his credit, was making a lot of money. So the husband convinced her to put the mortgage in her name, but she put the deed in both of their names. They had just been married quickly. The second, the mortgage was closed. They learned that he had all these back taxes. And this is actually like a fraudulent scheme he's done over and over. They ended up having to pay his taxes because the mortgage was under her name, right? So they both own the house, but she's got to pay the mortgage.

So she was stuck with it. And so I didn't even know that. You could, her name could still be on the house, but the mortgage is technically still under me, which makes sense because the mortgage is through it. So, yeah, I think having that protection is good. And I think the therapist's idea is good. And I think you guys, that is a tough thing to open up with, but I can promise you there are people watching that also struggle with this.

And it's like finding those solutions and talking about it. That's the solution, right? There's a customized plan for everybody. It's just you can't get to that customized plan to feel a healthy way, unless you talk about it and you guys are stepping into one of the hardest things they do. So fuck yeah.

All right. One thing I want to talk about, Blake, last time, DJ career. You said every single year you are making more money in the DJ career. It's now 2026.

The world has changed. A lot different than 2023. Are you continuing that trajectory as far as earnings in the DJ career going in 2026? That's a great question. And I think, like you said, the world's changing a lot.

And I don't know if any of you out there have seen all the articles or, you know, in the headlines where Gen Z's not drinking. Like, it's just, the alcohol is just not flowing like it used to. So that's played a big part in it.

And obviously, you know, this economy right now in the last few years has been as far as day to day stuff. Stock market's crushing, but day to day stuff has become more and more expensive. I know we printed a lot of money with COVID and all that kind of stuff. Inflation has been hell. So honestly, just in general,

Vegas is getting hurt bad. A lot of the night life, a lot of clubs who have been around like world renowned clubs all over the country, have closed down. So, no, the DJ industry, the nightlife industry. I mean, we're talking for servers. We're talking for, you know, barbacks, everybody, promoters. It's hard.

It's hard out there right now. The big name's still crushing. You still have Tiesto, Dom Dalla, so these people are still making $250K a set. But for the people in between, the people who are around my price point, you know, 5 to 10K a set kind of thing, it's been hard out of there. It's been hard because the tickets aren't moving like they used to for anybody. I know, you know, little John isn't doing a nightclub, or next year just because he's like, I'm playing, people want to drink during the day and they want to

drink at like a coffee shop for a pop up and have fun, you know, so they're not buying $20,000 tables anymore. It's just that market is not there. And it is for some people. Like I said, dumb dollar. These people who are crushing, they're selling $20,000 tables. But for everybody else, people aren't doing that on a Thursday night for a DJ who, you know, isn't, isn't that, you know, making millions of streams on Spotify. Wow. So the market has changed a lot. I, I'm so blessed and I'm still making more than 90% of the DJs out there and I feel very blessed and lucky. But it has, you know, it's a trickle-down effect.

Like, we've seen it. Like, the club industry is hurting a lot. So would you say if you had to look at like 2020, okay, you look at a 23, then go to 20-24, 2025. How, just give me a percentage. How is it changed income-wise? Oh, gosh. I would say about 15 to 20% less.

Wow. About 2022, maybe 20-23. Those were my biggest DJ years. Which was around how much? Oh, I think I pulled in like almost 350, 400 from just DJ. Yeah, yeah. That's when I was playing. Like, even the gigs I'm playing now, the same gigs are less money.

Wow. Like, I would make a Coachella 20K and now you're getting five. You know what I mean? So, like, even just the same gigs I'm getting, they're just less money. So, yeah, I would say it's about 15 to 20%. Yeah, so that's been something that I've had to pivot a little bit and lean to a little bit more. Just get creative. You got to get really creative.

And, like, we had a baby. So in a weird way, it's kind of been a weird. weird blessing in disguise. Like obviously I love DJing. I love work. But like, hey, I, I I got to spend more time with my family and in like crucial years. You know, these like fundamental years where he's learning a lot and everything. So it's been a blessing in that case. I still want to DJ and I still love doing it. But it's, it's been nice to kind of be home. Speaking of that, you got the crystal ball in front of you. Do we want more kids? Don't ask G. Don't ask me.

She wants a damn basketball team. How many does she want? I would love like five, but I'll settle for Blake, are we good on three? We'll see. If we have a girl next, part of me is like, hey, we got a boy, we got a girl. We can still do a lot with two kids. So we'll see what the next one is. But, yeah, let's be honest. I'll probably compromise and do three.

Let's just be realistic. Look at that therapy working right there. All right, we're going to get into so much that you guys are still crushing it with, right? You got Love is Blind season nine. You just hosted the season finale at Empower Field, which is such a cool opportunity. You guys are talking to a lot of networks. There's a lot going on behind the scenes. Some you can share, some you can't.

Before we get into that, because we're going to get into that, got to touch on the wedding of the shirt. You guys have a wedding coming up this year. 2026, it's going down. I'll never forget one time I talked to Sean Johnson, and she talked about the fact that if she went to a florist and told the florist that she was having an event, it would be one-fifth the cost.

And if she said she was actually having a wedding, because you throw a wedding in front of whatever the vendor is, it's three to five times more. How are you guys planning? How are you budgeting and where are you spending for the wedding? So that's called the love tax. Okay. Yeah.

So I've been told. And I completely said, what's the love tax? The love tax is you go to a florist and you're like, hey, I'm having a birthday party. They're like, okay, cool. Let's say it's one grand. I'm having a wedding. Oh, now it's 10.

Yeah. The love tax. It's kind of like the funeral tax, which is love. It's just sad love. They just jacked those prices. They're not thinking. Exactly. So you can have a beautiful gorgeous wedding in the States when everyone does it.

Of course. You can have the most stunning gorgeous wedding. I've always grown up with a vision of what I wanted my wedding to look like, which is I can have the venue until fucking 5 a.m. if I want to. I can have food flowing, drinks flowing. Like I just want it to just be like such a celebration. And then you start looking at venues and then you start talking about vendors and they're like, okay, great. you can have this, you know, fucking pavilion that has nothing for $70,000, $50,000. And you can have it until 10 p.m.

And I'm just like, I'm not doing that. I am not. So usually you have like the father of the bride or maybe your parents had something set aside for you. I don't have that luxury. So we are paying for this wedding 100% ourselves. So if I'm going to pay for it, I'm going to have exactly what I want. I'm not going to compromise. I'm not going to be like, thank you, Daddy.

Thanks for the check. We can have it fucking in the backyard. Thank you. No, I'm paying for it, so I'm getting what I want. And that means that we're doing it overseas. Are there discounts? Obviously, you have to get there and stuff, but is it cheaper to do a wedding in Europe

as opposed to United States? Where we're having it? Yes, because I just did all the research imaginable. I found the most beautiful, gorgeous venue. I found people that are willing to work with us. And I'm getting just like this banger of a wedding for probably a little less than half of what you would get in the States, maybe even more than half.

So, yeah. So what I'll say is, and I was, I'll be honest, I was against it at first. I obviously want to have a dream wedding and everything. But I was like, this is a lot for people to get there, to whatever, you know, the airplanes, hotels, whatever. But this is what I'll say. For the price that we're getting her dream wedding, we have the venue till 4 a.m., the food's incredible, all this, blah, blah,

and it's like, you know, it's incredible, this old, it's like my dream, old castle, like it's crazy. For that price, we're probably paying the same amount we would in the U.S., but it would be, we'd have the venue till 10 p.m. It would be bland chicken. It would be all this thing. It would be like pizza and beer. Got it.

Versus like gorgeous seafood and wine. We're getting premium for. for like a hell of a price. So I've, you know, I've had friends throw this insane, gorgeous wedding in Miami. You know, church, la-la-la, premium food, seafood, the whole thing. Let's say it was like $250, $300.

We're not paying that. And it's going to be a whole week instead of just one day. Yeah, it's a whole week, yeah. Wow. So I think the thing is, is you can just get more fee bank. The dollar goes further, obviously, overseas and where we're getting married.

So, yeah. But also where we're having. having it. If you're having it in like, if you're having in France or like Harris. Yeah. Sure. It's going to be. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you have a dollar amount where you say under no circumstances, we are not capping. We will knock over this amount for the wedding. Is this a wedding? The wedding is just a therapy conversation. So for the wedding itself, like, what's Blake's stuff or what's? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's really interesting. So I told her what I'm going to spend. I was like, if you want to spend over that, honey, you can. How much she makes a lot more than me? I,

didn't want to spend more on my side and I think I'm going to end up spending more but 40K I was like 40k and this we're talking just for the wedding you know what I mean not any of the extracurriculars out there so basically I was like hey listen okay if you want like 80K 40 40 80k it's gonna go a little over

but we're also doing like a yacht on the welcome party a sailboat the next morning we're doing things in between so getting more for our money What are you lurking out? It looks like a dog in trouble. She's like, yep, we are. Keep going. But I will say, what's your number?

You're not going to go over. I will say what's wild is that. And men don't think about is makeup, hair, dress, all of that. Oh, so expensive. Like, it's insane. So my 40K is literally, don't show. My 40K is probably how much she's spent already. But my 40K is going towards the wedding where she's got 40K just for like hair, makeup, dress, shoes.

It's insane. It's insane. There's a theme in this podcast. Jeannie to like a nice thing. Gee, could you share like, do you have your number that you think about? 100 grand? No, like 120. Yeah.

And I think here's the thing. I'm getting like all the bells and whistles, but I'm doing it with just the resource. that I have, right? So instead of one photographer being $12,000, I'm getting three photographers. Got it. You know what I mean? So, like, I'm doing everything,

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How much is a wedding dress cost? Like, a good one that you're looking at? You can say, I have no, I'm saying, I have no idea. You have to, like, literally close your ears, Blake, because I don't. Blake, close your ears. I think you've, I think you spilled it the other day. Blake, close them. Okay.

La la la la la la. You done? Wow. Can you sell that after her? Well, obviously, you wouldn't. What a dumb question. But I- Oh my God. Because it's custom couture.

It's literally, yeah, it's literally made to like my, to fit like a glove. And like, I created certain things for the dress that it's just, as you can see, she's super excited. I'm so excited. Yeah.

And you know what? You get, it's hard to buy that. Smile. You talked about you're making, you're making good money. You're being smart with your money. And you want to splurge on the most special, one of the most special events

will ever happen in your life. Fucking splurge. Good for you. I can't, we're going to have to have you guys back after the way and see how, these numbers actually shake out. We have a budget of 40 from Blake,

and we got a budget of 120. Not, was it not counting the dress? Not counting the dress. Not counting the dress from G. But I will say we have been fortunate, and we partnered with some vendors. Yeah, we've been fantastic. And the wedding is paid for.

Wow. That's amazing. By one ad. Almost one. By one what? Add. Oh, wow. Two ads.

Two ads, one brand. So you'll be doing, you could do ads with the wedding. And that could, obviously you have to continue to spend your money, but once that money comes in from those ads, it can justify the whole cost. It's justified. And we wouldn't have got these deals if it wasn't for the wedding. So it's incredible. It's incredible. It's because of the wedding.

Well, great for you guys. And with three photographers, you'll have some great concerts. Jerome, videographer, the whole nine. I love it. Well, let's take the final segment of this and let's talk about what's now. Like, it's so cool to hear about what's coming up, the wedding and how you're handling money with Heath and just what the future looks like. But let's talk about what's now. So what is you?

We've seen the DJ. This entire industry has shrunk a little bit. You talked about that. Gianina, things are thriving and going well. Talk to me a little bit. You hosted Love is Blind season nine. Talk to me about what is going on in the entertainment scope, the digital scope, social media scope for your career today that you're most excited about.

I feel like I've been knocking on the door for a really long time. And I had opportunities come up when I was pregnant. But then you had to leave the baby and all this stuff. So I felt like my window was gone for a while. And I just have this team that really believed. of me and Blake and I are such a great, I don't know, like, it's insane, like, what we do together in front of the camera. It's, it's, I just feel like at home. And so, I was able to get the season nine reunion watch party, hosted that and it just became this kind of like a little bit snowball

effect. So now me and Blake are guest co-hosting, what's the reality? Go. While the host, AD, is on a Trinity leave. So that's been really fun. Some really fun episodes. I saw the clip. They look incredible. And you guys have such natural chemistry. I don't even feel like I'm at work. I just feel like I'm having such a fun time.

And I feel like all the stars in line and I'm like where I'm supposed to be. Maybe because I did get a podcast with them as soon as Love is Blind aired, the season one. But maybe I was a little too green. You know, things like COVID happened. So I feel like now that these opportunities are popping up, I just feel like I'm in it. I've been in the same thing seven fucking years. Let's go. Let's go.

Oh, keep ripping. So we have that and we have such a fun project that we'll be able to announce very soon. Like within maybe when this podcast. Can you like kind of tease like what realm? It wouldn't happen without Blake and I kicking down doors. But meeting the way that we did. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. And being in this like kind of unique world.

We met in two different places and, you know, now we're on two different. Two different shows. Came together. And this could be a show. This could be something that is fun to watch. A lot of potential. I will say, I will say basically. Ah, we might have to cut that out.

Stay tuned. It's coming. There's a project that's coming. Let me ask you about this. We talk to reality TV. There's clearly a project. Let's get out of there so I don't get you in trouble. Are there any reality shows recently that you've been interested in

and they're considered to talk to you? Drop them all, honey. I mean, I've had meetings. Let's see if they pick me up. Who? Was it NBC? Traders. Traders?

You're casted for traders? Not casted for it. Yeah. Conversations have been happening. I am casted for it. Do you guys want to drop a comment? Everybody drop a comment underneath how G should be on traders. Yeah.

No. So you've talked to? Do you have a conversation about traders? I've had, I've had a fuck. I don't want it sound like I'm thirsty. I've had conversations for casting, right? and I've had auditions that have been, that I've gone through like the final rounds of

and then someone else fucking gets it and I'm like this fucking close to getting it. So it's been happening in that sense. Whereas like five years ago, I was just cast food. So now I'm actually like having to like audition and like really fight for the role. So I'm hoping that that comes through. I want to say something.

I hate the word thirsty is bullshit. Amen. Your entire life has changed upside down in the best way humanly possible that you probably ever could have imagined professionally personally and financially because you went on reality TV. And it continues to soar. And you get the opportunity to say, I can spend $120,000 on a wedding because that's my dream. And now you can financially responsibly do that. And so for you to want the opportunity to go on another show that can also help your career and your family and your kids. kid and your life, that is not thirsty.

And anybody that puts it in your head that it's thirsty are people that are like longing for what you have or they're envious of what's going on. That's bullshit. Fuck that word. There's nothing wrong with trying to advance your career. You're trying to put yourself in a better spot.

Fuck you guys. You should be on dancing with the stars. I would love, really. God, this white boy can move. I do love yeah. And if you, that's what you want and that's a dreamers, put it out there. Look at Whitney Lovett. Look at Whitney Lovett.

Oh, my God. And she's really hard. I mean, literally her life turned upside down in a year. Like upside down the best way. So I support that full way. All right. Well, I feel like that's a really exciting place to go to you, Blake, and we'll wrap. You got the crystal ball, special forces.

What do you think is coming? What can we expect? We had so much fun with What's the Reality. Make sure you go check out our episodes on What's the Reality. I would love to do something similar with you. Like, I think we would love. love to have some kind of podcast, some kind of, you know, some kind of like show or something where we interview people and we talk about our lives, talk about their lives, talk about their

lives, talk about parenthood, talk about life. Like, we enjoy it so much. And I think people enjoy listening to us. So I think down the line, we'd love to do something like that. And I think maybe, you know, maybe we will. So yeah, I think that's definitely, you know, and obviously I love DJing this year. This last year, I was a dad focused on that, focused on a lot of social media content, things like that. I want to get back into creating some music in 2026. And getting out there in front of fans and some of my favorite venues and festivals. So that's big on the map in 2026.

And real quick, sorry. Pins and Aces, I don't know if you guys have noticed, but this isn't Jason's usual. Not my usual setup over here. We're at a blackjack table. But yeah, doing a really fun thing. We have a golf podcast called Close Course and just having a lot of fun.

Boys sitting down talking golf, talking sports, talking life. So, you know, I'm really embracing the golf industry and it's just so much fun to talk with the boys. And so check out closed course as well. I love it. All right, Blake, so we're doing a trading secret. Gee, we're doing a trade secrets. It's going to be a little bit different than what we've done in the past.

I want you. How old are you when you went on a bachelor's at? 28. Okay, 28 year old Blake is sitting right across the table. You guys are having a beer together. You can give him one trading secret to change to think through knowing what you know now. What would you tell him?

Dude, it would be exactly what you said when you talked about thirsty. Don't be afraid to be thirsty. Be cringy. Be out there. Don't be afraid what your boys are going to say, if they're going to trip you or not. even if they do trip you, they're still happy for you. Like, just do what you need to do.

And don't be afraid to be cringy. Don't be afraid to be made fun of or whatever it is. Just be out there, be yourself, and post what you need to and how you want to. Rip it, grip it. Don't look back. I think one of the big things is that healthy people, they are excited and happy for the people that they love when they do well. Because that also creates, like, their support system is doing better, right?

And I think unhealthy people will be envious or put you down or judge you for doing well. and like keep your circle tight with people that are healthy, right? All right, Jeannie, how old were you when you went on reality? I was 25. 25. Blake, if we went on reality TV at 25, I don't think we could have a mess. I'd be a miss. But you did it.

Gina, you were looking at your 25-year-old self today. You guys are having a nice class of wine. What trading secret are you giving her? I feel like I always say this, but it's just how I live my life. It's always trust your gut. If I am, I don't know, yeah, if I'm sitting across the table with somebody, And I don't feel like I'm in the right place. Get up and go.

Like, don't try to people please. If you're, I mean, I did a really good getting representation right after Love is Blind. And then two weeks later, COVID hit and I got really, really lucky. But I felt like I owed people my time when it ended up costing me a lot of money. And so I feel like don't. you have to look out for yourself in this business. And that's not to say to be rude, to be disrespectful, but just to know when to walk away or no one to dive in.

I love it. And my gut is like the biggest indicator of that. And to this day, it doesn't, hasn't let me down. Trust your gut. And then we had a trading secret from Chloe Veach. She's done over 10 reality shows. She said, no is a full sentence, which connects to like kind of what you said,

like no one to say no, no one to leave. All right. Well, this was another unbelievable episode with Blake and Giannina. We're going to have to come back after the wedding to see how much you actually spent. We'll see how much we spent. Yeah, we might have another therapy session here on trade secrets. Last thing we'll say is, I know you can't talk anymore about your project, so that's on hold.

But where can everyone find everything you do have going on? Gianina will start with you. Yeah, find me on Instagram and TikTok at Giannina Jubelli. G-I-N-N-I-N-I-E-L-L-I. Am I going to change my last name after I am married? I don't know. I don't really care. TBD?

That's not like one of those things. I'm totally fine with her keeping her life. Okay, TBD. Another therapy conversation. All right. And you are the guest co-host right now of What's the Reality Podcast? Check that out. And where can people find that?

Just put it in. At what's the reality on Spotify and YouTube. Okay. Amazing. On all the Spotify, Apple Podcasts, all that good stuff. And Blake, how about you? I am on Instagram and TikTok at Balakay. H-B-A-L-C-A-Y-E-D-H.

Yeah, and at CloseC-C-C-A-Y-E-E-D-H. Check it out. And, yeah, check out, watch the reality. We got three more episodes coming up in one very special episode that I think you guys love. One very special episode and a massive project. We will wrap with this. A huge shout out to Pins and Aces for hosting us here today in Denver, Colorado.

All your golfing needs. They got golf covers. They got unbelievable Polos. Go check it out. We'll link it in this episode. Gia Nina and Blake, thank you so much for being back on trading secrets. Thanks.