Trading Secrets - 299. Thirty Minute Thursday! The Future of Loverboy, Pop Culture Catch Up & Jason Visits His Restaurant Investment

Episode Date: May 14, 2026

On this week’s 30 Minute Thursdays, Jason Tartick and David are back breaking down the biggest moments from their conversation with Kyle Cooke. They unpack the future of Loverboy, the realities of scaling a consumer brand, and the honest business conversations that had everyone talking.Plus, the guys dive into the latest pop culture headlines, trending business stories, and Jason shares what happened when he visited the restaurant he recently invested in. From entrepreneurship lessons to reality TV chaos, this episode delivers the perfect mix of business and entertainment.

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Thursday, baby, we are back. I got the David Ardwin with us. We're coming up a hot, hot episode here. Kyle Cook in the Hotsie, talking all things, trading secrets, a lot happening in life, a lot happening in the markets, a lot happening in pop culture. All the moving parts this week was on CNN. Saturday got asked to go on Fox and Friends.

You give me a platform to talk about finance in today's world. I will talk about it. David Ardwin, how you doing, my man? Do it great. Coming up a massive Sabers W game four, tied to two, two, going back to Buffalo. Jay, you mentioned it last 30 minute Thursday. Any chance that you are in person for one of these playoff games here?

Well, you know, I, on Sunday, I'm doing a little thing with Bloomingdale's for the Subway Series, New York, Mets, Yankees. So I'll be at that game. Monday was planning on doing a couple podcasts and heading back to Nashville. But Monday night, if it's going to be Game 7 in Buffalo, might have to call my boy, David, and we might have to have a conversation. Listen, I don't know if our hearts can take Game 7 or just the fact gliding up to it. If there is, and we're there, I'm not mad about it.

Just saying, not mad about it. Not mad about it. It is NHL hockey, playoff hockey. It's the best of the best. The sabers are in it. David, you and I might be at game seven. How's life though, man? Things before we get into Kyle Cook, how is it?

Listen, my main theme for Kyle Cook episode I have here, it's stress. Just stress with a bunch of S's. My life's a little stress, but you know what? There's light at the end of the tunnel. Anyone who has two kids knows life is stressful. That's the given. It's about how you make it. Ashley and I were recording on 30 minutes Thursdays on a Tuesday night at 10.30 p.m. I haven't even started packing because I just put the kids down. We are going to Miami, Jason. We are going to Miami for four nights with no kids for the first time ever. The best man at my wedding, Jason Risha is getting married, snaps to Rish. And we are excited. So this is the moment. We're all the stress, all the hard work. We're going to miss the kids so much. But my God, Jason, am I looking forward to this. four days. Like what of all the things, prep me for the day that hopefully I once have kids. What is it that at your leg? Is it, is it the silence? Is it like the sex? Is it the sleep?

Is it the like what is it? Those are three Ss in a row. I got three things for you. Okay. This is, we've talked about this last night. The three things. Number one is the flight. Okay. Having a flight with no kids on the plane is you have no idea. Like we don't even need a cocktail. We just need to be able to board the plane, how we want to board the plane. Sit on the plane. Do we want to sleep? Do we want to read a book? Do we want to watch a movie? Do we want to do my thing? I haven't deleted pictures on my phone like I normally do for years because having a kid on a plane. Anyone who's been on a plane has seen the parents struggle, anyone who has kids. Number one is having a plane just to relax. It's actually going to be relaxing on the plane, which is incredible. Number two is

waking up with absolutely nothing to do. Waking up on our own time, getting up. out of bed when we want to get out of bed, having coffee when we want to have coffee, doing whatever. Do we want to work out? Do we want to go for a walk? Do we want to lay out? What do we want to do? Getting up without anything to do. And then obviously, the intimacy, Jay, the intimacy of being able to do anything you want at any time at a beautiful hotel and beautiful vacation with great vibes and wedding in the air. It's just the perfect opportunity to reconnect. Anyone who's been busy, whether you have kids or not, and you go and you have that date night and you look at, you look. in each other's eyes. You talk about all the shit that you've been putting off finances and family and career and personal and all these things to do it for four days over a weekend. It's going to be incredible. I'm going to come back, recharged and juice up. I'm excited about it,

man. I'm excited about it. If I had to summarize everything I heard, which is a lot there. It's a lot. It feels like freedom. It's just like when you're when you're going to have this little vacation, it's freedom to do what you want, how you want, the way you want. And for a couple days, you're going to have that mom and dad are going to have a little, little freedom back to just do what you want, how you want, relax a little bit, kick it off. And I know by day two, I'm going to miss those kids so bad.

It's going to be ridiculous. But we'll be ready to come home. But yeah, man, freedom in a way that, you know, as people who go through this, it's so important to experience. But also the, once you have kids, the freedom that you never want to fully experience again because the kids bring joy, man. They do.

They're nuts. They are absolutely nuts. but they bring joy. And so it's going to be amazing, man. You were just in Miami. That's where you interviewed Kyle Cook. Flashback to January, you were there with Amanda. So maybe Miami is just, hey, we need a good guest.

Jason is just going to fly to Miami and bump into someone and have an epic interview. Something in the air in Miami, but you were with Kyle. This is a recently filmed episode. Take me a little behind the scenes here. How is he? How is he doing? I'm sure you talked a little bit more about personal life, not while we were recording. You've known Kyle a long time.

How is he? I've said it once. I'll say again on this podcast. I've known Kyle and Amanda both for a long time. They're both friends of mine. And I care both about their hearts and their well-being. And through all, I said that on the Amanda episode when Kyle was in a tough spot, go listen to the recap. And so we were there.

He was there for Crox Deal. And then we were both speaking on a panel at the Bloomberg House for F1, Miami. And so the way I'd summarize. it. It's like he went through a tornado and I think he's still kind of in the tornado. But he's handling it. I think the beauty of this tornado he's in is it stripped a layer of probably what I'll call safety from him that he was wearing this armor that was safety. And that armor is stripped and you're just getting this vulnerable side of Kyle. And I just want to like hug him. Like I just want to be like it's like this sweeter, softer side that's just, you know, that protection

layers gone and like we hung out a lot we talked a lot of this podcast was business focused but the vulnerable size of kyle is that kyle that like i'm like dude to bring this every day every place everywhere because it just i feel more connected to you as a friend than i ever have and i thought you guys you did an amazing job as always keeping it you know business focus with little sprinkle of like how personal affects the business which is why this episode was so good correct me if I'm wrong, but man, hearing some of these numbers and the stress and the sheer like $100,000 a month, he has to bring in just to cover the loan, that isn't one housing expense, living expense, etc, etc. We all know, we just talked about with kids, like there's responsibility. I go on vacation. I want, I feel like I have freedom. When you're in a marriage or in your relationship, you always have to think about your other's needs. There's responsibilities or things that you're not doing for yourself because of what needs to be done at the house or for them. do you think there's an element

I mean at the end of the day his relationship obviously is over people who have watched Summer House and they've led us into their lives know that there was some toxicity to it on both sides do you think there's an element where it's like hey I have to raise

I have to earn 100K a month just to cover the loan so I need to actually make more than that to survive do you think there's an element of that he's feeling freedom because he can do DJing he can fly to Miami he can do a speaking event he can do the crocs

he can put all the energy into the company. Like, at the end of the day, he probably needed to cut that loose so he could survive. Yeah, dude, yes. I mean, the answer is yes. But I think it's, I think it all comes down to compatibility.

Right. I just don't think when you think about the, just the things that he's naturally attracted to when it comes to hobbies and free time and where he wants to go and his work ethic and his business focused mentality. He's a workhorse man. He wakes up in the morning works.

He goes to bed. He works. His battery doesn't stop. I think there is probably a compatibility thing. But here's what I'll say of at all. And I mean this from the realest, realest places in my body and heart. This guy really, really cares about Amanda. And I haven't talked to Amanda in just a little bit.

But I know from Amanda, she really, really cares. about Kyle. Oh, yeah. And there's a lot. I mean, take your judgments out, take your noise, take your opinions. It's not what I'm talking about. They have deep care for one another. And it's really cool to see like that it didn't work out, but like they still check in. They still care for one other. They still love one another. And I think it just came down to when you talk about compatibility, I think, man. When he's doing that like TMZ guy that he's like running into on the sidewalk and then give him like four minute interviews, like that's not, that's not random. right that's like well that TMZ guy actually is a uh I'll call him an acquaintance

if you will like he I could text him right now I'm trying to get him to come on the podcast dude because I want to I want to talk all about that business yeah because typically I'll tell you this yeah that the I know the original one like he dude he parks up like and and Kyle did not know like the first one yeah did not know that makes sense the second one he had to have known because Kyle's hair has never looked better in his entire life than that second one. I was like mystified. I was like, how do you, how do you get it that perfect? What is I? I need that technique. I'll never have a hair long enough. But yeah, the second one, I was like, okay, this definitely, he knew this was coming because I can't comment on that because

I truly don't know. But I know the first one was the first one was real. But yeah, I mean, I think the better thing is that we need to get Adam, his name's Adam. We need to get him on the podcast. because like, and he wants to come on, talk about like, he does. He does. Oh, yeah, come on. Yeah. Unbelievable.

Unbelievable. Interesting business that he has there that not a lot of people think. It has a lot of strategy, but obviously it probably has all the strategy in the world. Speaking of strategy, anything about this episode as you're listening to it that you didn't know that kind of shot out at you. I mean, it was packed business-wise. There was a lot of numbers that was shared. Again, Kyle always blows me away with his knowledge of not just his business, but the

industry, the alcohol industry, just sounds. horrific, like horrific to be in in so many hurdles and so many, so many ways that the one line that I have, then I'll kick it to you is, I have a business, people want the product, and I just can't even give it to them. Like, it's just too hard to even get it in their hands, which must just drive him absolutely crazy. What kind of stuck out about it to you as someone who's had him on the podcast for three times? There's a few things that stuck out. One, based on the amount of money that he raised, which was a lot because he did a bridge loan and a SPA loan. That means he spent a lot on infrastructure and I think.

And you heard him break it all down. I'm wondering, and I actually said this to him, like for my companies, I know I'm stretched too thin with other things. Like to manage it all, right, to be, you know, not to, oh, what was me? But like at the end of the day, it's like you're doing two episodes a week on a podcast. You're running an agency. I've told you this a million times. You're running a small business, right?

You're running the creator's side. You're running an investor side. You're jumping on CNN and Fox. Go do TV correspondent. You're jumping at, you know, you get a call for a show or something. You know, to do it all and lead a business effectively. And I know I'm a great, I do. I know I'm a good business leader.

I know that when I'm focused, I am when I can give it all. There are days that I'm like, it's just like some days I'm locked in like today. I probably put 10 hours into my businesses today. tomorrow I'm going to have other stuff they're going to pull me. And I'm wondering if he might have thought the same thing. Like he is an owner and an operator and he's Kyle Cook and he's on all these shows and he's creating content. It's a lot to do.

And so I wonder if he would do it again, if he would have hired a full-time CEO. And that's a conversation. I'd like that. That's one. Two, dude, just think about like take your mortgage, right? And then multiply your mortgage by the number that makes sense. If everyone do it, think about your mortgage, guys. and then multiply that mortgage times to get to 4.

what was it, 4.2 million? And that's the burden you have just for your business loan. It's crazy. Then add your mortgage. Then add your 30 employees. Then add the fact that like the alcohol business is getting tougher and tougher. Then add the middleman.

Like, dude, that's what I was saying. My face, if you guys watch the YouTube, I'm in sheer awe just because the amount of stress on top of a divorce on top of your C.O. leaving in January, that stress is enough to put someone six feet under. No wonder he drinks too much on TV. Dude, it's so much stress he was dealing with. And currently, honestly, thank God he's getting the support he is, but still on his plate. Like that note's still there. He still has to pay this thing down. Question. What happens if he just says, okay, fuck it. Loverboy, it's great. It's been my life. But it just ain't paying the bills.

he then goes bankrupt. He still owes the $4.2 million, correct? Well, the balance now is I think it's paid like 1.3, if I remember right, so I think the balance is somewhere in that like 2.9. Okay. So if he goes bankrupt and Loverboy stops earning money, obviously, because it's bankrupt. And let's say he just gets rid of the company. He still owes the 2.9, correct?

Okay. So I'm not a bankruptcy guy. And I never, like when I was in finance, there's a group called the Asset Recovery Group. when you're lending to large companies or you're doing a syndicated deal and the company starts performing poorly, it goes to asset recovery. The bank has a special group

that's in charge of getting the assets back. I never worked in it. I never touched it so I can't speak to it. But my guess is, is in bankruptcy, they negotiate a dollar amount that they'll settle on to what they'll get paid back.

And then he'll have a personal guarantee. The personal guarantee allows them to take liens on any of his assets. Well, that's what I was saying is... With all the time that he's in... We talked last week about time value and money, getting the guy to cut your lawn because your time's worth more than that.

Do you think there's going to come a point where his time isn't worth lover boy to pay this back? And he just invests it in other ventures through brand deals, through things of that nature to pay this thing back. I mean, they're used...

Like the way that Summerhouse, dude, is ripping right now. Yeah. We go back five years. Like, this was not, I mean, this is one of the hottest shows with the hottest cast out there. His value at a second is going up. I don't know how he would be able to continue to do all of it. That's what I'm saying, man. Like, I love this passion project, his lover boy, but I hear this stress. It's like, dude, there is, we've talked about this podcast, how much money there is in other avenues. Get rid of the company. Save yourself. Get back on your feet. Stop having so much stress. You're single now. you're in your 40s. Turn to the page. Go on the next thing. That's what I would say to him.

But I don't know. There's too much fire, passion and competitive juices in the Kyle Cook. No, what's the saying? No one to hold them. No one to hold them. No one to fold them. But hey, I mean, we'll see.

We'll see. We'll do. I cannot wait to do a touch pace in like a year. Maybe things will continue to turn. They're already turning. We'll see. anything David before re-wrap? Was there anything to you that was like,

because it was very business focused that you were like, what is that? I don't understand what that means. No, I think I got it. Honestly, I thought the distribution and CPG combo was really interesting. I learned a lot about the industry. But we've had them on a couple times. He's talked a lot about the similar things.

And so I think I'm up to speed a little bit here. Yeah, I mean, but you talked about bridge alone. and he explained it. It's just literally a short-term loan. Last, I don't know, three, six months to three years. It's like you're bridging the gap between financing of some sort that you need. They were obviously going to hire. And I'll tell you, one thing I thought about, like, when he was raising all that capital, I'm like, I've had this agency now. We've had it for five years. We've been profitable every year. We're growing every single year. We're all self-funded. So I could really use some capital to grow the company and acquire. That's what I've been thinking about.

Okay. Question for you. If I wanted to do. to take a home equity loan out right now, let's say $30,000 because I need some cash to invest in some projects and never get a pool because my anyways, it's neither here nor there. If I take the 30 grand out, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold real quick. You wouldn't get up, you wouldn't get a pool? No. Because I was like, you, I would get a pool because time value of money, you could definitely afford to like have someone do nuts to bolts where it goes back to like the stupid shit of like buying a house is the most biggest purchase you ever make in your life. You get to see the thing for 15 fucking minutes and then you buy it and then you walk in and there's no instruction manuals. There's

no nothing. There's no this. There's no that. And it's all trial and air. And it's like, you just figure it out. It's like YouTube's great. Like Google's great. Chat-GBTbt is great. But I didn't know that my energy bill was so high and we had a gas who's pregnant. We had our son in December like we're not going to use the hot tub this this winter. So let's save money by shutting the breaker down to the hot tub. So it's not at 104 degrees for six months when we we don't use it. Smart, right? Yeah,

smart. Yeah, well, we went to go check the hot tub. There's no water left because all the pipes froze and burst over the winter. And so now to save a fucking 16 cents a day, I got to replace the pipes for $2,500 bucks. It doesn't end, dude. It doesn't end. I mean, I just, you know, I'm new to homeownership.

You've been doing it forever. But I just, every day I wake up, I'm like, I could not work for the next six months. in this house still won't be like done to what. It's just, it's just the hits keep on coming. Security. True green. We got to get this lawn in good shape. Oh, we got to get this outdoor furniture.

That all that TV broke. Oh, my, man. Oh, dude. Yeah, I didn't want to go there. So anyways, I take a $30,000 out, okay? Okay. Do I have to pay that back immediately? Or does that just go against like, is that like,

a loan that I get that when I eventually sell the house, I just give it back when I sell the house. Is that a dumb question? I think what you're asking me is, here's how it's when you have a heat lock, it's a home equity line of credit. And the reason that people do it is you're borrowing against your asset, which is your house, which has equity. Because you have equity in it, it's going to be a lower rate and it's going to be cheaper and it has collateral, right?

So the bank can come, the banking will get your house. So it reduces the risk. They have a draw period. So you could, let's say you could draw down in the draw period based on the he lock, well, I don't know, might be five years or 10 years. It's the period that you can buy it down. And it's kind of, or you can borrow off it. And payments are usually, it depends on the structure, but usually they're like interest

only. So what would you want to use that? 30,000 for it. Probably like little projects that need to get done. Like I got my pool vacuum. I took it out of storage. Fucking thing snapped in half and now it doesn't move. So I got to get a new pool vacuum. I got to get the, there's just a bunch of things. And I honestly would just probably have some just liquid just to get me through and not be so stressed paycheck to paycheck while I have it. And I do have a lot of, I do, I probably have current value of home for what I bought it for. I probably have $200,000 in equity. And that's what it's, that's exactly what it's for. It's credit card

has no leverage, no collateral, so the fees are so high. Because you have a house behind it, you're pretty much, it's a line of credit. And you could use it for these one-time expenses that come up. And then you can pay it back as your paychecks come in. And it'll be a lower rate. So it's not a, I'm going to take your brand. I'm going to call you on the side for this. Okay, call me on the side for this. It's also a really good, like if you have, if you have credit card debt and you are looking to consolidate your debt. All you're trying to do with consolidating debt is find other debt that is cheaper than your credit card debt. So you could use a heat lock, which will be cheaper than your credit card, pay off your credit card, and then use that to restructure the cost. Look at that.

Learning something. A lot going on there. What else we, I mean, dude, there's a lot. There's a lot happening right now. We got, you know, a couple wars going on, you know, so that's happening. I don't know. Wage growth is decreasing a little bit. AI is, full force, youth unemployment's a little high, but unemployment's going down. I mean, I talked a little bit about this on the CNN piece, but we are living in a very interesting financial conundrum right now where it's like markets are trading at all time highs, but consumer sentiment of their feelings about their spending and where they're feeling pain at the pumps and at the grocery stores and at rent and insurance costs is significant.

It's a very interesting world we're living in that feels somewhat unpredictable. So that's a little bit about the markets, but there's also a lot happening in pop culture too. There's a lot going on in my life. There's a lot going on your life. Where do you want to take the next steps to 30 minute Thursday here, brother? Oh, man. Well, I mean, really quickly pop culture, Alex Earle, cover of Sports Illustrated. It's just a massive. She just keeps her star, just keeps rising, not really touching on the Alex Cooper drama yet. And why would she let the haters hate? She keeps crushing it. We've got Love Island starting in June, season eight, Love Island, USA. Are you going to stop me here?

Yeah, I mean, it was, it was, so you had Hillary Duff and Alex Earl, right? were on the cover. Tiffany Haddish, Nicole. Hillary Duff. What a comeback she's making. Oh, yeah. She's in it right now. It was really interesting to see like they got Brittany Bowles. Looks like Kristen Goff. Oh, wow. That's cool. I feel like that's a digital cover. I feel like Catherine will love that. Who else is in there? Oh, Claire Kittles in there.

Hallie. Caval. Yeah, a lot of football. Those are cover. Bethany Frankl's in there? Okay. Oh, Hannah Berner? Bethany Franklin. O'Landria's in there. Remy Bader. Okay, a lot of guests are trading secrets. It's like a trading secrets.

Alumni. Oh, yeah. Okay. Camille Kostic, of course. Brooks Nader's sister. I want to get her on. She's in finance. She's great.

So, yeah. I mean. Anthony Frankel just became Facebook official or Instagram official. Um, hard launch. Hard launch. We love Anthony Franco. Yeah.

Other other, other, the trading secrets. You said Alandria. You said Alandria Love Island. season eight. starting USA in June. Sierra just got asked to be co-host of Afterson. Sierra is going over to Fiji to be the co-host of AfterSun,

going right from Fiji to Summer House, the film season 11, and then going right from Summer House for Dancing with Stars. That's called, what's it, being booked or something like that? That's booked and busy, baby. Booked and busy, baby.

Sierra has a rocket on her back going all the way to the top. Breaking net, what did my buddy used to say in Rochester, breaking necks and cash and checks. That's it. Speaking of Rochester. Wait, funny thing real quick, do you know, I don't think I ever told you this.

I got asked to be a guest on After Dark. Yes, you told me this. After Sun. I told you that. After Sun. What's it called? After Love Island Dark? After Sun Dark.

No, it's just called After Sun. Oh, after Sun. Okay. So I almost flew to Fiji to do that. And then it was like a week later they decided they're not going to have any other reality stars from any other shows. And it was like two days later they announced Taylor Frankie Paul. the Bachelorette. So my manager was like, I think they like probably got wooden

then like, oh, we might have some competition here. So we're taking all Bachelorette people off our list. Either way, it would an electric for that. Now you get Sierra running the show. She is, I don't think she's coming down from this high. She is. Oh, she's crushing it. She's kicking ass, taking name. She's throwing daggers out there on threads. It's kind of electric to just sit back and watch. Dude, she's a great chirper. Oh, phenomenal too. Phenomenal. I mean, her chirps. I'd be scared. I'd be scared of her. I wouldn't want to be on her outside. Yeah, no, I wouldn't. She's just like, she's so fucking smart too with her wit. Yeah, love it. You said Rochester, next to Rochester's Buffalo,

bills versus lions opening the new stadium, September 17th Thursday night. It's a little heartic household rivalry here. You and Catherine, you're going to be there? Yeah, I mean, listen, we talk trading secrets here, right? What do we do? We talk numbers. Let's look current right now. How much you think these tickets are going for? I mean, we're talking like lower bowl? We're talking lower bowl. Over a thousand bucks. Over a thousand bucks.

I'm looking at lower bowl tickets right now. 2,800, 1,900, 900, 900, 1,100, I mean, where are we at the Super Bowl? Are we in Buffalo? Buffalo, baby. Rob Grancowski. 400 levels, a thousand dollars.

Rob Grancowski just booked a suite at Sabres playoff game for seven grand for a suite for a whole entire family. We're going $2,400 for a bill's regular season game. Is that what it was? Seven grand. You know,

I saw a bunch of my buddies actually at the clip. I saw him in there. He was seven grand. Shout out. He paid for it. He paid for it. He goes,

I didn't even get comped. He did an interview with Ryan Whitney. He's like, I didn't even comp, but I bought it. Classic Robb. Classic Rob. I love it.

That's awesome. Yeah, a lot of action. What about you? Anything this weekend before we wrapped? What were you up to this weekend? Anything worthy you? Let's see. This weekend went to the Eagles concert.

Andrew East invited me, which is cool. Good to get with some Nashville buddies. Eric Decker was there and a couple other, a few other guys. I saw the Eagles. Adam Dolick was there, a singer in town. Actually, Adam Dolick's the song that Catherine and I used on one of our reels when we talked about just moving in.

Todd Anderson, a big, big fitness in health guru in town, a bunch of really great people. How did you like the Eagles? Unbelievable. I saw him at the sphere. Joe Walsh, 70 years old, just ripping, just ripping up there. It was unbelievable. I saw him at the sphere in Vegas. The sphere is incredible.

I've got to love the sphere. Then a bunch of the boys went to a restaurant that I have ownership in in Nashville, which is kind of cool yesterday. John Gurney and the Sansone Boys. So you went to your own restaurant? Well, it's not mine. Well, you own it. I invested in it, I guess.

Yeah, it's called Lion's Share. It's in Nashville, Tennessee. It's inspired by one of these private drinking clubs of London. It's got like this. classic lodge feel. Chef Robbie Wilson is he, this guy's decorated man. James Beard Foundation awards of my finalists for Best Chef. He's worked at Michelin Level Stars. He's worked at Thomas Keller. He's worked with Chef Nobu. This guy is awesome. Moved his family from San Fran to hear for it. The COO of Hard Rock is behind it. There's a great group of people behind it. If you guys come

to Nashville, check out Lion's Cher. Where is it? Gurney, who is a producer on the show. He's listening right now. He was with us. The Food. So good. It's in Sylvan Park, which is a nice area that is really, I feel like it's starting to really blow up. So if you come to Nashville, check out Lion's Share. We got doing an event, this hosting an event actually at one hotel with fresh beauty, skin care actually, ironically. So we're throwing a big party there. That'll be fun in Nashville. Next week we got Catherine has a Wags and Wags and Wags event with Christian Chenowick and Sarah Evans performing. So excited for that. dude I'm just ready for the summer man

I know ready to go me too me too well I'm kicking off in Miami you've been there more than I have probably anywhere I gotta go anywhere that we have to go anything we have to do we're staying in we're staying in the South Beach area not quite deep down in South Beach like 50 minutes north at the Palms Hotel and Spa anything we got to do they got the best Italian food and they got the best sushi we both reservations we have are sushi we're going to Mila And we'll be so good.

Yeah, we're going to water. No, it's good. Water's good. Yeah. Oh, you've been in all the spots. Oh, well, you know, Miami. We've done some podcast there. I might buy my first shirt from a store and like since before I had kids.

So that would be exciting. What do you mean? I haven't bought a piece of clothing for myself and since COVID probably. I feel like there's things in life that are like so worth buying. But I feel like, I don't know. It's a, I don't know. Yeah. Do you, like, I go out, let's suppose we go out to dinner.

You and I have the best time ever, okay? Yeah. It's 400 bucks for that dinner. Hey, drink, steak, we're just like, we're having a great dinner. If I see a piece of furniture, like a chair that's 400 bucks, I'm like, what? No shot. And dude, that's 400 bucks these days. Like, I'm on these sites all the time.

That's like nothing for a chair. So I haven't really figured out from a spending perspective in my head. Like, why do some things make sense and some things don't? Yeah. Like you see shirts, dude, that are like, you know. all these shirts are 100 bucks, 200 bucks, and it's like, you know they're making 90% margin on that, but it's a shirt that you could wear it. If you're a go-to shirt, you're wearing it 50 times. Yeah. Yeah. It's really interesting. And I'd be curious, the listeners here, maybe give us five

stars in the comments. What are things that like, okay, just imagine 200 bucks goes out the door. What's 200 bucks that you're like, okay, that's cool. But if you take the same 200 bucks in another area, like, no, I'm not for it. I feel like we all have those things. Anything to do with health and nutrition. We think 200 bucks is the biggest thing in the world and we'll never do it. Yeah, it's interesting. It's fascinating. Yeah, it's disgusting. Well, on that note, talking about homes and all the things that we love about them, we have Gaily Alex coming on Monday to talk all about home. Reno, she has a show on HBO, HGTV. She literally goes into home. 72 hours says, tell me your budget. They get to say nothing. They don't get to have any.

input. They come back in three days and they get to see your work and she's coming on the show. So anything else before we ran 30 minute Thursday? It was good. It's 11.01 p.m. My flight leaves in seven hours. I haven't packed a morsel yet. The kids are sleeping. So I'm going to go pack and try and fall sleep for three hours. You go pack. I am complaining of the wrong guy, but I got four nights in a row less than six hours of sleep here. I'm at the five hour mark, five hour mark, five hour mark. So I'm going to try and throw in a seven, eight hour night shift here. David, have a great time in Miami. Hope you guys enjoyed the Kyle Cook podcast. Stay tuned next week for Gately, Alex. And hey, we got a couple big announcements. Maybe I can't actually say we got some big announcements coming.

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