Trading Secrets - 303. Thirty Minute Thursday! Michael Allio & Jadé Marie Chapman Recap, Love After Loss, Portugal Adventures & Pop Culture Headlines

Episode Date: May 28, 2026

On this week’s 30 Minute Thursday, Jason Tartick is joined by The Curious Canadian to break down the biggest moments from his emotional and revealing conversation with Michael Allio and esthetician... Jadé Marie Chapman.Jason and David unpack Michael’s journey through grief, fatherhood, healing, dating in the public eye, and what stood out most from Michael and Jadé’s relationship dynamic. They also discuss the business side of influencing, modern relationships, and why audiences connected so deeply with the episode.Plus, Jason shares stories from his recent trip to Portugal — including travel highlights, cultural observations, food, and a few unexpected moments along the way.The guys also hit the latest pop culture headlines, social media conversations, and trending reality TV drama in another classic 30 Minute Thursday episode.

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Starting point is 00:00:14 30 minute 30. I feel like our most loyal listeners are always here with us on 30 minute Thursdays. And it's a beautiful thing. It is Thursday, May 28th. We are right around the quarter to June. Holy shit. Where did 2026 go? I'll tell you what, time is flying.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Speaking of time flying, it feels like yesterday I had Michael Aon, we were talking about his breakup with Danny. Now he's in love. He's wrote a book. He's found business endeavors. he's back on his feet where last time I saw him it was a little bit of a mess and I am so happy for him. He sounds like he's really doing well and it feels like he 100% met his one. Curious Canadian, David Arwin, before we get into Michael A, how are we doing?
Starting point is 00:01:02 Like what's going on? What's cooking? We're doing good. I resonate with the times moving too fast. Apparently it was Memorial Day last weekend. I feel like that came a week or a month too early. I haven't even said. I just took the patio furniture.
Starting point is 00:01:16 out of my shed after Memorial Day. That doesn't make sense. But here we are. It's May 28. It's almost June. Summer's basically almost over. Great. Didn't even get a tan yet.
Starting point is 00:01:28 But here we are. We're moving at the speed of light, but life is good. Life is good. I had an amazing personal weekend as a father that we'll get into later when we talk some personal updates. But speaking of father, you have a great one here in Michael for James.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Listen, I'm going to say this. Okay. I'm going to say this. I hope you understand where I'm coming from. This was such a feel-good episode that it made me question if it was too good to feel. Like, if it was, like, too good. Like, these two are too perfect.
Starting point is 00:02:01 This book, this, this, this is cancer chemo, this skink, this is too per- I'm starting to question my life because it's so perfect. It was just crazy hallmark meets like manifestation. meets like rom-com meets everything. It was just such a feel-good episode. And like you said, so happy for him. So did you feel that in the room, Jay?
Starting point is 00:02:24 Dude, so well said. Like I had a, that day, I had like a 6 a.m. flight. So I was like super tired. And you know me. I'm usually Mr. Positive and stuff, right? And there are, I think if you guys go watch the YouTube. If you don't know, Trading Secrets has a YouTube. Just go search Jason Tarduk, subscribe.
Starting point is 00:02:42 There are times they're talking. And I'm just like, I'm literally just like, I'm like, wow. Like really? Oh my God. And I was like, wait, what? I'm like, you two are soulmates. And if you're not, if these two aren't soulmates, I'm just like soulmates don't exist.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Because everything was in, it was like so kind, so supportive, so sweet. What he's doing with this book is amazing. I haven't talked to Michael A in a while. And I'm like, I felt the same way. I'm like, damn. I'll be, you know, I love on Thursday. 30 minute Thursdays, I always get behind the scenes, right? We got out of there, I'm like, guys, when are we fucking doing this?
Starting point is 00:03:21 Like, what are we waiting for? Like, you guys got this thing on lock. Everything is like so dialed. And they're both, they're very, very kind. Like, behind the scenes, they're both very, very kind. You know how sometimes, like, you hear people are like, what are they like on camera for soft? Those two are just very, they are very sweet.
Starting point is 00:03:42 They were actually heading off to Hamilton show. they're going to see Alexander Hamilton right from the studio. Yeah, it was crazy. It was 15 minutes in. I was like, this is so sweet. And then 45 minutes, I'm like, why am I getting angry with how sweet and kind and amazing? This is a me problem. But no, it was incredible.
Starting point is 00:04:04 I got to read his book. I mean, gosh, talk about father to son or just parent to child of like using the characters, as a storytelling to just have the hard conversations and have them resonate. It was just a beautiful, like the best part about it was there was no intent that he did 35 of them, that James had to pick seven of them. I can't wait to get my hands on a copy and read it. It just kind of has him shine all the way through with what he's trying to achieve, which is at the end of the day, you can tell all he's trying to achieve in life is be the best dad that he can. And this is a huge accomplishment for him. So super proud to see that.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Yeah, amazing. Truly. And I think I think the idea to, you know, You know, you talked about your personal updates, having a great weekend with your son, one-year-old forget. I mean, I don't have kids, but his story of how when you tell kids' stories, it helps them take them out of being the character in the story and listening to a story about a character. It feels like that resonating. To me, I'm like, that makes so much sense, the book idea. Like, that's a genius move. Well, we had last week, Alex, she was talking about. Gaylee Alex.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Daley Alex was talking about storytelling and in her sales mechanism. And so to see storytelling become such a theme and the people who are starting to be really successful at it, be really good storytellers and take themselves out of the equation to kind of paint the picture is a pretty powerful form of communication. And they did talk a little bit about money. There's a couple fun, fun quotes when you asked her how much she invested in her skin care line. She's had a couple commas. Usually you hear a couple zeros. I thought her saying a couple commas was kind of funny. and then she complimented him about how good he is investing money.
Starting point is 00:05:47 He goes, yeah, it goes to work for me and it doesn't talk back. I just thought that like that, like, kind of just like quick witty terminology, like talk about storytelling. Like it hit, it resonated. I'm like, he's got a point there. He's really got a point. Yeah, I think so too. Any other big takeaways questions, curiosities?
Starting point is 00:06:02 How much times in a day for these two? Like they are going around the clock. Like they are, it seems like inseparable. I mean, talk about when you know, you know, I kind of felt like you. like, hey, are we doing this? Like, when are we doing doing this? When we make an official? But they just, they're so happy.
Starting point is 00:06:18 I mean, how could you not just want to ride the wave of like, if it ain't broke, don't fix it? Whatever they are, you don't need a label on it. They seem perfect together. James obviously, you know, is cared for and loved in the situation. And just you got to think at some point, even though they seem perfect, there's so many hard things that they talked about. And you got to think that this episode resonates with people no matter what they've been through.
Starting point is 00:06:41 100%. I mean, you talk about grieving through loss, making room for someone else, and stepping into a parenting situation that Jade's had to step into. It's truly, like, I would say this is the couple that needs to write a book on how you manage. All the moving, moving from, dude, Hollywood, L.A. to Akrid. That's a huge life adjustment. And it sounds like that's kind of the theme of their relationship is like just making these big adjustments. It's beautiful episode. They're doing well and a lot to talk about. Yeah, and like she said, just to do it with, she asked like, what's the blueprint? He's like, I'm a single dad. You think I know what it's like going to be when he turns eight, nine, ten goes through purity? Like, that's the beauty of parenting. That's the beauty of going through that journey with someone, as being able to figure it out on their own.
Starting point is 00:07:31 And let me tell you, it seems like they're figuring it out, Jason, figuring it out, which is great to see. That is for damn sure. All right, David. Well, anything else on Michael A, before we go to what is happening in pop culture, markets and money right now? No, I'm going to parlay that with, like I said before, a proud father moment. We're going to go personal before pop culture and business. It was Memorial Day weekend last weekend. You were in Portugal.
Starting point is 00:07:57 I want to hear a little bit about that and just some takeaways that you had being to Portugal for the first time that can resonate with some of our listeners. But it was 50 degrees in raining the whole weekend here. And so what we decided to turn into was a sports weekend for Carter. We took them mini golfing. We took them bowling and we took them skating for the first time. And you would think that the hockey coach who runs a hockey academy knows exactly what to do for his kid the first time skating. I was like so anxious the night before. I made him like try like, what is the three-year-old wear on the ice?
Starting point is 00:08:25 Does he wear all the gear? Does he wear all the gear? Does he wear a snow pants? Does he wear a jacket? So we were trying them on. It was really cute. And then I went digging in my in my attic space. And I found the first ever hockey jersey that I ever was given when I was five years old.
Starting point is 00:08:39 It's a Pittsburgh Penguins, Mario Lemieux, Jersey. And it's all ratty and torn up. And I just brought it down. I was like, about to cry. And I put it on him. He just loved it. And he was like, Jersey, Jersey. And so he wore that to his first skate.
Starting point is 00:08:50 So my son had his first skate, something I'll never forget, was really emotional. Truly a really emotional moment for me. So that's one thing that I'll never forget. And that's how I spent my memorial day weekend. Dude, that's beautiful. Those are, I mean, I have the picture of my dad and I when we went skating for the first time. and it is buried into my brain. Like I remember exactly what he was wearing
Starting point is 00:09:12 and what I was wearing and all that. I also have a memory I'll never forget what you'll have with Carter too. I always had wheels playing hockey. I could go, I could skate fast. I couldn't stop. I was like Luis Mendoz out there. And the first time I stopped.
Starting point is 00:09:25 I remember I was in the middle of the game. My dad was coached me. I'm like, Dad, I stopped. I stopped. And those are the moments you just, you got to live in those. You got to cherish them. It's a beautiful thing.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Your dad commented on my Instagram post. And he was like, I just love this. And I was like, I bet you do. I was like, I bet you do. So it's funny that you bring that up too because he was feeling it. But, you know, you were doing more, I'm going to say, exciting things in Portugal. Any takeaways for the people? Tell me about Portugal.
Starting point is 00:09:55 I've never been. We were there for a bachelor party. Any things that cost a living, Portugal, are things cheap, are they expensive? Did you guys travel through train? You guys went out to a nightclub. You guys went out for restaurants. You drank a lot of wine. You went on a boat tour.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Like, you know, getting there was expensive. But when you're there, did it make a little more sense? How was it? Paint a picture for me. I got a little out of FOMO. Yeah, so like I was thinking a lot of bees. It was the boys. We went to the beach.
Starting point is 00:10:20 We had some bougie dinners. We went to bars and we did a boat. It was a lot of bees. Portugal was beautiful. Like, I mean, you've been to Europe, right? Okay. Just Europe in general. It's just, I mean, it's amazing.
Starting point is 00:10:36 The vibe, the people instantly, All energies come. One of the funny things is like, why were we having anxiety at the restaurant? Like, we were, everyone was having anxiety at a restaurant because it takes so long for them to come to you. Like, that's how impatient we are as Americans. We're just like, where are you? Where's our drink? Where's everything?
Starting point is 00:10:51 And like, you have to ask, you have to beg for the bill. It's like, hello. That's true. I do remember. Like, it's so funny in that regard. But the food was incredible. It's just the scene, the views. The Airbnb was amazing.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Like, I mean, we fit all 12 people in there. There's two different pools. in the Airbnb. Ubers are so damn cheap. It's nauseating. It's like $3 to get somewhere. And we have a good, decent exchange rate right now with the euro.
Starting point is 00:11:20 It's like anywhere, though. You want to go to fancy places? You're going to spend a lot. The last night we went to a really nice meal. So we were there from 7.30 p.m. to 1.30 a.m. It was to sit 12 people. And it was a standard, like they set the meal for us and a drink package. You know, everything from wagging.
Starting point is 00:11:38 to lobster fettuccini with gluten-free options. The package had unlimited wine and beer. People, of course, got their own cocktails. That plus a bottle after in its own table was like $3,300 U.S. So around $294 per person from a 7.30 p.m. to a 1 a.m. with like a bottle, a whole dinner, drinks, cocktails. and it was the most expensive, most amazing place we went. So that's for perspective.
Starting point is 00:12:12 The other place we went to was like 60. It was like a really nice 11-course meal and it was like 60-70 bucks. Can you compare that to 294 head to like if you did that same thing in like New York City or Miami? It's so funny. You said that. Hawke's brother was saying that. He was like, oh, the 294 for the head for that one, by the way, it's like we paid for the bachelor. So that was between 11 people.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Oh, $8 to $10,000. I mean, that's what's great. So when you go out there, at least in Portugal, Lisbon, Portugal, I mean, it was, it was affordable. It was affordable. It's not cheap. You're not, you know, you're not getting steals, but it's much more affordable than going like a Miami, New York City, L.A. The boat was, that was probably the best.
Starting point is 00:12:57 You're out on the boat, and just the views are incredible. You're with the boys. There were tears shut on the boat. They were, you know, this group was really, really good. you know, most of us, as you know, all went to college together. So a lot of us have like 20 years of a relationship. We were really good at like, let's go around the horn and like, let's say, what's our favorite memory of a hawk? That's our favorite this. What's your favorite memory of this person, that person? And it was like, there was, it was just, it was emotional. It was fun. It was
Starting point is 00:13:25 exciting. I think the best part too is with that many people, you get concerned about like, how is it going to work? How's the vibe going to work? And you realize that, 12 of the 14 of us, 12 of the 14 of us lived together in college, like actually in the same house. There was 12 of us that lived in the same house. So it worked. It's just like it was like back to college days for a weekend. And it was great. We had a good time.
Starting point is 00:13:53 But we missed you, man. We missed you. Yeah. And listen, the group that was there was a bunch of Michael A's. There was a bunch of like down-to-earth great guys who want to get in the weeds about, you know, talking and showing appreciation. and talking with kindness. And so it seemed like an amazing time. Like I said, FOMO was off the charts.
Starting point is 00:14:10 But I'm happy for Hawk. It sounds like he had a great weekend. And now you're back. And you're about to go back to Europe, correct? Insane. Yeah. I think I said this last week. I'm like in this wild chapter that I have friends that are in bachelor parties.
Starting point is 00:14:24 I have, you know, a couple weddings coming up here in Europe. So leaving the sixth. We're going to Santorini for a wedding. Then Catherine and I by herself will be, exploring Italy together. Can't wait for that. And then going to Croatia for another wedding. So most of June I'll be in Europe. So this is like Euro 2026. I don't know when I'll be back in Europe. Probably not for a very long time. But I'll let you know how that trip goes. Taking Trading Secrets International for a couple of weeks. As we 30 minute Thursday on the road.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Speaking of prices, Jay, I've been, the New York Knicks have made the NBA finals in I saw they're doing cross comparisons. They're assuming they're playing the Oklahoma City Thunder. I've seen cross comparisons on social media of what kind of home you can buy in Oklahoma City for the price of a ticket to game three or game four of the NBA finals. It's going to be madness. New York City might burn down. It's just crazy.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Tickets are going for an astronomical amount. It's, it's, you just suffered a pretty hard loss. in game seven. Can you justify paying a lot for sporting event anymore? No, it's stupid. Honestly, like, I'm just done. I've like, it's so stupid. My business partner is a huge Knicks fan. And he was saying how for the cost of the cheapest ticket for him to go, he could, in New York City, by the way, he lives in Connecticut. He could pay for his son to have daycare, full-time daycare. That's like a month plus of expenses. One ticket, worst place in the entire spot. Now, there's, it's all, it's, it's, it's, it's
Starting point is 00:16:05 bullshit. You could probably rent a Super Bowl. I've gone to all these things. I've Stanley Cup. I've been Stanley Cup game seven team wins in overtime and the next morning drinking out of the cup in a beer. And still, these prices are just nuts. They're just crazy. And honestly, like, I'm going to show you some business case too. The times I have bought tickets for the Super Bowl, I have bought them after it starts on an app where the price has decreased significantly where I got them at like 20, 30% of what their price point was before the game. And there's a business case because like those big events, like you can get good content, which is crazy. But like that's a reality in the world that we live in. And like the people paying this much is just nuts. And it's the same thing for the FIFA. So I'm well today. I read this.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Before you get there, there is a scenario in which game six of the NBA finals is how the same time as a World Cup match is happening at MetLife Stadium in New Jersey right across the Hudson from New York City, which they're saying like between the amount of like people that flood the streets for Knicks games win or losses and the traffic for people who are coming for the World Cup is like New York City is going to be like immobile. Like don't even leave your house if you're not like going out for the World Cup or going out for the Knicks. And in cost wise of each of those events, it's just crazy. Things are just getting so expensive. It's getting ridiculous, especially here in the States. I read this article this morning. It's so funny you said that. I was alluding to that. I mean, by the way, that would be epic. I remember once I went to a Mets game and U.S. Open and we walked to it. And like that was the coolest thing. I can't even imagine what that would be. Sky high World Cup ticket prices sparks investigation by New York and New Jersey attorneys. It's crazy what happened here recently with these ticket prices. FIFA ticket prices for group matches in the U.S. They began at 16.
Starting point is 00:18:01 bucks for a small number of tickets. And now they went up to more than $600. That was according to New York Times. Face value tickets for the final were as much as how much, David, face value tickets for the final were as much as face value tickets for as the World Cup final. I mean, it's got to be like $4,000. $10,990.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Fans were already angry about these high prices, which quickly soared exponentially higher on resale platforms, including $2 million for the final. There were group packages, $2 million. So they're looking into seeing what is going on, how it's going on. David, I sat next to the head of all FIFA comms at Bloomberg when I was there for a dinner. He said this has just been such a hard World Cup deal. He was dealing with such mania from these platforms, from people, from, honestly, he talked about like the capitalism of the United States creates this whole other moving point
Starting point is 00:19:01 that he like typically in some other countries doesn't have to deal with as much. I mean, it was wild to hear from his standpoint how he's like, you know, it's just been absolutely mayhem to deal with the communications of the World Cup. Well, you're dealing with three countries hosting, which is pretty rare. You're dealing with
Starting point is 00:19:17 locations all across. I mean, just the logistics of it is crazy. And the World Cup is like this. I mean, they had it in Qatar for God's sakes. And there was a whole bunch of issues in terms of labor and equality and things of that nature, building those. So, World Cup is an amazing event.
Starting point is 00:19:33 God, it's got some, it's got some red flags. It's got some corruptness behind it. I think that we can all agree on that. It's mayhem. Another wild thing, Travis Kelsey, I mean, that guy has hit a whole different level. It's funny. After the Miami Super Bowl, Evan and I were at the after party with them. And Evan and I have a picture of Travis Kelsey.
Starting point is 00:19:54 And I got to show you the style this guy has at this point in time of his life is just atrocious. Fast forward today, this guy is like, dialed. There's not a, there's that from the top hair on his head to the bottom, you know, piece of rubber on his shoe. Everything is just dialed. He now just bought a minority stake in Cleveland Guardians after taking Taylor Swift to his hometown. I credit every good thing in my life to Cleveland and being raised here with the values and the people and the work ethic. I think that connects to a lot of people in the Midwest and people like, you who live in Rochester, me from Buffalo,
Starting point is 00:20:29 you got to love to see that. You love to see people. born from, you know, smaller midtown cities come back and make a difference like that. How much he bought it for? Trust me, I will be looking everywhere. We'll share it here on Trading Secrets. Don't have that information now. But that's what's moving. And this one is crazy.
Starting point is 00:20:49 There was an indie horror film, David, that became a box office obsession. There's a YouTuber Curry Barker who filmed a rare box office feat. earning 30% more in its second weekend in theaters than its opening. How much do you think it costs? What do you think the budget was to make this horror movie? Indy? Yep. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Horror indie, small. Right. Horror indie, small. We're talking. It's still a movie, though. So it's not going to be a million dollars. It's going to be less. It's going to be $612,000.
Starting point is 00:21:26 Man, you're getting good. Five years and 300 episodes of Trading Secrets. this guy's just getting good. Curry Barker, the 26-year-old YouTuber turned filmmaker, made his horror movie film obsession in just 20 days on a mere $750,000 budget. Wait till you hear these numbers. It's still a lot of money. No shit, it's a lot of money, but that is nothing for a movie. After its second weekend in theaters, the focus features distribute movie is now on its track to earn more than a hundred times that amount with an expected 79.7, million haul at global box office, according to box office mojo. My biggest takeaway from that is like, this is a 26-year-old kid who is a YouTuber who continued to just dream bigger and go bigger and do more. And he obviously raised the capital. We should try and get Curry Barker on this.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Raise $250,000 and now has a global hit $80 million. David, what do you take away from that? Well, I take a lot of it. It reminds me of the Blair Witch Project. if we have any millennials listening to this, you'll remember the Blair Witch Project made from a home video with a bunch of buddies
Starting point is 00:22:39 that are ripping around in the forest and that was in theaters, scaring the shit out of people making millions and millions of dollars. I would like to do a comp right now. I don't know if you're in the ones and twos there, but I would love to see how much the Blair Witch project was to create
Starting point is 00:22:54 and make. And Jason's going to do a little scribing there for me. But that, listen, sometimes when you put your life's passions together, if it's good quality, it's good quality. And, you know, raising money and being able to put $750,000, I love these stories. These make me feel better than Transformers who you spend, the budget's ridiculous and maybe they cover it. And it's all ridiculous anyways. I feel like it's the way it's going. There feels like this very interesting thing in time where we're doing the opposite.
Starting point is 00:23:29 of what makes sense. Like even on social media, they're saying like, just pick up your phone, don't edit anything. Just go. Like, I think people are looking for so much,
Starting point is 00:23:38 like more realness in this time because there's so much fake shit out there. You know what I'm saying? Oh, it's crazy. It's no doubt. I mean, it's really been the case with a lot of people
Starting point is 00:23:49 that we've talked about because everyone who is successful comes on and says, just be authentic, be yourself. Like curated content that's like perfect. It's not as well received. and it's also not sustainable. It's not realistic.
Starting point is 00:24:01 It's not, it takes too much time. You get people who pick up and record what's on their mind. I mean, you think of some people like a brand at chicken fry, Dave Portnoy doing T by the C, this new guy, Big John, like he's talking about it on social media being like, for the amount of time that you've thought,
Starting point is 00:24:16 he's like, just post the cringe content. Just post the cringe content. The amount of time you've thought about if people are going to like it, I've already put up seven videos and that's why I'm better than you. Like, it's, but it's the truth and it's more relatable. I don't know. It's crazy. Now, what you don't want to do,
Starting point is 00:24:31 talk about pop culture in the media right now, is pick up the phone and say something stupid, like James Charles did. What happened there? No, you don't. Come on, Jason. Oh. You know James Charles?
Starting point is 00:24:43 Yeah. You know who James Charles is. No. Jason. I feel like this is like when you asked. 45 million followers on TikTok, does the makeup. Oh, I saw this.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Yeah. Oh, yeah. You lost like five million. I saw he lost five. What did he do? He had a Spirit Airlines employee reach out to him asking, you know, Spirit Airlines just went bankrupt. She lost her job.
Starting point is 00:25:11 She was asking for if he would be, you know, donate to a cause or a fund. And he basically took this person, opened his phone and absolutely fucking shredded her. Basically like laughed in her face. The mean, I'll send you the video. It'll absolutely disgust you. And he's getting the proper treatment. There's also a lot of people saying that they went to go unfa, they didn't even know they were following him.
Starting point is 00:25:36 And people are saying that all the 40 million followers that he do have, that he does have, maybe a lot of them aren't real because more people want him unfollowed and it's not moving as fast as they want. But talk about kindness. Michael A. at the start of this episode, you've done a couple of reels yesterday about kindness and increasing kindness. And just to see someone use their $45 million platform to just
Starting point is 00:25:56 absolutely shit on someone who just lost their job who's just throwing a Hail Mary out there asking for a favor or a generous act I don't know James Charles pretty gross it was pretty gross to be honest Is it me or I said this on my story yesterday But like is It feels like people are just talking
Starting point is 00:26:18 So much just shit lately Like I feel like everywhere I turn Like I go to a post And it's just fucking shit shit talking after shit talking. Is this just my little algorithm in world? No, it's been our world for 25 years since probably the internet was invented and maybe before that in some ways.
Starting point is 00:26:37 But it's just people go on the internet and seek out like things that they don't like almost more than they like. I mean, it's kind of that world where it's easier to pile on someone that it is to support them. It's tough though. It's like people's insecurities coming out when they get to hide behind a computer screen. That's where it comes from. Everyone's looking for a comment.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Listen, some people, sometimes it's good because it holds people in check a little bit, but then sometimes it's bad when you're just doing it to do it. But I think the reality is like it's, I think having so much visibility to so many people in the so many areas of their life is creating reactions from individuals because of maybe issues they're having. You called it out. I nodded my head. Hearing like Michael A, you're like, is something wrong with me?
Starting point is 00:27:28 Like, is this too perfect? Like, but you think about you're something, it's very expressive. Like, when you feel good, you share how great you feel. When you feel sad, you feel sad. So like, you know, maybe there is something in there that like maybe like triggered or brought something up. And I think what happens, and that's a healthy way to do it. I think there's so many unhealthy people that are just like so like pissed at the world. And then they see something in line and they just throw all their shit on those people.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Well, I think online has given us the ability to feel like we have the say, the right to comment or call out things that we don't like. Where before when we didn't have that opportunity, maybe a little more bite your tongue, a little more self-reflection, less opportunity. I mean, we're going to end this 30 minute Thursday because we got about two minutes left like we've ended all of them. I mean, tell me the summer house reunion that just aired, that has just been the fuel on the fire of like everyone feels like they're. entitled to an opinion of what's going on. We've talked about it on the podcast, so here we are contributing to it. But it's just the world that we live in.
Starting point is 00:28:30 It's kind of sad. But at the end of the day, it also is like the moral compass. If you're on a platform, if you're James Charles, you're saying something that is wrong, right? If you're on Summer House and you're choosing through actions to do something that is hurting people
Starting point is 00:28:46 that is wrong by societal norms, and people have the ability to comment on it, Yeah, you can say people are filled with hate, but when it's done towards actions that are wrong, like wrong, like the moral compass says it's wrong. I don't know. It's going to happen. It's going to happen naturally, especially when they have the platform. Interesting take.
Starting point is 00:29:06 That's why you got to love 30-minute Thursdays. And for those who stuck with us this long, the answer for Blair Witch, I had it here the time. We just got talking, 200 to 300,000. That was the final cost to make the Blair Witch. project. An initial production was $35,000 to shoot it raw. After post-production, sound remixing, transferring the film to 35 millimeter. The final cost was around 200 to 300,000. So I found that pretty how much did it make? Let's see. Yeah, we got to see how, got to see how much made. I'm not,
Starting point is 00:29:44 I'm not a scary movie guy. I'm just not. I'm a huge wuss. Like, I'm just bad. Like, I like have to watch through me. Love, love horror movies. Oh, I'm so bad. Like, you wouldn't go in haunted houses, huh? Uh, not by choice. It's like, I, it's like, oh, if you're at a haunted house, you're, you probably like with a girl. It's like, oh, yeah, no, of course I'll go. Yeah, I love, you just go first. You just go first. I'll hold your hand. I'll make sure that. My birthday's late October. I would have parties where people like, you know, like, the little story will be like, we're going to go to a haunted house, give pizzas go to hot house. All right, We're running late on 30-minute Thursday, $248.6 million at the worldwide box office.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Wow. A lot of action happening in pop culture, money, and markets. Next week, we'll talk a little bit more about personal finance and the trip to Europe. All the exciting things, plans. David, anything before we wrap 30-minute Thursday? We got to get someone who's a specialist in peptides on the podcast. I got so many questions and curiosities about the goddamn peptide conversation. It feels like I woke up one day and everyone in the world knows what a peptide is. I have no fucking clue. So it's just I'm putting it out there. I need, I want peptides.
Starting point is 00:30:56 I will get a peptide guy. Consider it done. Done and done. Thank you for tuning into another episode of 30 minute Thursday. Hopefully it was one you couldn't afford to miss. Get ready, dancing with the stars. Max next week.

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