Trading Secrets - 332. Thirty Minute Thursday: Starbucks, Side Hustles, Dancing With the Stars & Chris Harrison’s Big Comeback

Episode Date: September 17, 2026

Jason Tartick and the Curious Canadian are back for another 30 Minute Thursday with a little bit of everything. Jason breaks down the latest Federal Reserve rate hike and what it means for your credit card debt, savings, and investments, while David asks how to put $10,000 to work, whether a high-yield savings account or CD makes sense, and how dollar-cost averaging can help you get invested over time. The guys also debate whether David should set up an LLC for his hockey consulting side hustle, what business expenses may qualify as deductions, and why keeping receipts and working with a tax professional matters. Then it’s all pop culture. Jason recaps a whirlwind week in New York City, including the US Open, celebrity events, and his upcoming night with Brad Pitt, while the guys break down the return of Chris Harrison to reality TV, the new show The Vow, and their thoughts on the latest season of Dancing With the Stars. Plus, a Starbucks rant, the rise of AI and robots, Jason’s week in NYC, and the real reason the Jesse James Decker episode was pulled and replaced with the Val episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Bright and early was at a Kevin Hart event last night. Wild how much that guy has done in his life. Also, David, absolutely shocking how sure he is. But today's a big one here. We landed because we are doing some social media for a Brad Pitt premiere event, but much higher than that. And almost risky. I got my fiance hosting the event on behalf of Wags and Walks

with Brad Pitt tonight. Now, I don't know if you have seen this, David, but Brad Pitt's girlfriend is uncanny looking to Catherine. A little terrifying, little terrifying, but hey, you know, we'll see what happens out there. Then we also have the Buffalo Bills versus Detroit Lions. We're huge fans of both the teams. That's Thursday night football.

A lot of action happening over here, David. It's been probably one of the craziest weeks in my life. You can tell I'm getting a little nasal dup right now. Haven't slept much, but here we are. How the hell are you? I'm good. It's been a really busy week too. Something must be in the water. You know, Brad Pitt still got it. That guy still. So hot. So hot. He's just a hot guy. It's so annoying. I saw him. He was like, they posted him yesterday. I'm like, that's so annoying. I mean, listen, today could be if the bills happen to lose and Catherine's on stage next to Brad Pitt, like, that's an L. Like, that's a big time lost day for you. And you, and I'm sure at some point you planned on being there for the game and the new, you know, to really.

officially open the new stadium. So, oh, we're going to be there. We're going to be there. Yeah. Yeah, there's only one W here is that I'm, I'll make a couple bucks today from this. But like, yeah, if like, and they start, I keep joking with her. I'm like, you can, like, you can, like, you have to

flirt with that. Like, I get it. Like, you can flirt with them. That's fine. But if I have to, like, see her flirt with Brad Pitt. Oh, yeah. I mean, you know, she's also very much like, Jason. That's not, that's not who I am. Stop. Like, she's very offended when I say that. She doesn't like it. But I'm like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

Brad thing, yeah, yeah. It's okay, honey. Listen, I would too. I would too. I would too. I would actually. So how are you? Listen, I'm good. I got a bone to pick. What's that? What bone? I got a bone to pick. Can I rant? Listen, we had some issues, which we'll get into after my rant of why we don't have an episode to recap and why we relaunched the Val's episode, Dancing with Stars. It's happening. It's big. It's in our faces. So we replayed the episode with Val. And we'll get into why we replayed it. But I got a bone to pick, Jay, because. I'm going to go on a rant Starbucks. Okay. I'm going to go on a little Starbucks, ran. Can I give it to you? I want your reaction.

Go for it. Okay. For all of you out there, I'm a Starbucks guy. I'm also a little bit of like a stars junkie. Like I like to collect the stars. And I've been texting Jay because I've been a little frustrated with the outputs of my Starbucks. It doesn't matter if I go drive through.

If I go in the store or I order through the app, I am waiting forever for my Starbucks. I'm talking, Jay, 25 plus minute waits in my rants that I've been texting you. kind of crazy on it's listen here's my here's my thing i just i'm going to say this out there and i want your reaction i want people out there too i order a cold brew black every single time i go it is pouring black liquid in a cup there's no pumps there's no foam there's no milk there's no cream there's no sugar there's no nothing Starbucks can you please just get a goddamn express line get an express line for people who just want a black coffee hot or cold that's been pouring in a cup you get in you get

out. It doesn't take any seconds you don't got a pre-order head. It is literally pouring liquid in a cup. I should not be waiting 25 minutes at a coffee place to pour liquid in a cup with no machines, no enhancement, no nothing. Are you with me, Jay, or are you against me on this? Because I'm about sick of it. Well, David, I just read and I sent the article to you that Elon Musk, fucking Elon Musk just said that in 10 years, there will be one billion robots with a B, billion out there. So something tells me you wait for a cup of coffee won't be a problem in just a very short period. Listen, I don't want the robots. You know me. I'm anti-robot. Give me, just like maybe it's self-serve. Maybe I can do, you know, you've been to those places.

Self-serve? Like a free, like the frow, yeah. Well, yeah, like a wine bar or like a beer wall where you go and you have a card and you pay by the ounce. Like, just give me that. I'll put my phone right up to this thing. It'll scan me. It'll charge me by the ounce. I'm in. I'm in. I'm I'm out. That's all I need. I'm a black coffee guy. This guy, once in a time, didn't even know what a 401k is. Now he's talking about operational six sigma efficiencies, lean in charge. I love it.

You brought up Starbucks and might as well bring it up here. It's trading right now at $96.59. In the last month, it's down 10.3%. Yeah. Tough month for the Starbucks stop. You can't be waiting 25 minutes for liquid in a cup. I'm sorry. You just can't be.

Well, I do think that's also a good transition because what Starbucks getting smoked, David, wait in 20 minutes for just a cup of black coffee. Dude, dumb question. We talk about spending, earning, and saving. Why don't you just brew a cup of coffee at your house? I do. I do. But sometimes you just like getting your name on the cup.

Well, today, 7.30 in the morning practice. I was up at 5.45, a little bit of a little bit of my own home brew in a to go cup. But now I'm in the office. What time's you go to bed? Put Carter down 930 and I was sleeping by 10, 10, 15. My sleep's good right now. I'm getting eight hours every night. I probably got like three hours last night.

Yeah. I feel like hell hole. No, but that's so. And then I get to the office and, you know, they have a little stars promotion, order three times in these three days. You get 60 extra stars. I'm all about the stars life. I'm trying to hit that reserve status on Starbucks.

And that's where we're going with right now. But that's my bone to pick with Starbucks. So yeah, You spend a little bit of money here and there, but, you know, sometimes just, you know, there's nothing better than that. There's nothing better than that. And the other thing, too, is guys, heads up, we're all going to be spending a little bit more money there.

Breaking news, the Federal Reserve, raise interest rates by a quarter basis point, which is 0.25%, bringing its benchmark rate to 3.75% to 4% as inflation remains above its 2% target. So markets are now pricing in roughly a 50%. percent chance of another rate hike. Now, we've talked about this on the podcast before, but when you increase interest rates, it will slow down the economy. It will cool things off. And the goal of that is to reduce inflation, the cost of everything. With that, there's other things that happens, like hits to the market, et cetera. A couple tips I want to give each and every one of you. If you have any floating rate debt right now, so what's floating rate debt,

variable interest rates, your credit card debt, if you have any type of floating rate debt, that will go up in probably a month or two. So I would say if you have floating rate credit card debt, pay it all off. The other thing, too, is where you do earn money on your money in your savings accounts and your treasury accounts, wherever it is that your money is sitting, it better not be sitting at 0%. And if it's sitting at 0%, get it out and get it into somewhere where you're earning money on your money.

Now more than ever, benchmark what you are. getting paid in interest because with interest rates going up, so should your payments. We have to outpace inflation with what we're making on our money. That's a little finance tip going into some breaking news. But yeah, David, a lot of action here. Going back to the personal life, I'll tell you what, man. Hold on. Yeah.

I actually want to build on some finance things here. Let's take it. I'm going to take that and go with it. Listen, I got a dumb question for you. I should probably know this. I'm pretty proud of myself. Just got a nice raise that took into effect on. my September 15th paycheck. And now I'm wondering, like you said, it's not necessarily sitting in a

zero percent interest account. What is the best option if I, let's say I have $10,000. And I want to put it somewhere where it's in a little bit of a higher interest account other than is high interest savings my best play if I want to put it in, take it out, put it in, take it out, kind of use it or should I be really putting this in the market per se? Okay, great question. What kind of raise are we talking here? here like a person can you give us a percentage we can go uh it was a uh my percentage why 30 30 uh 25 percent yeah yeah 25 percent yeah earn those miles I earn those holy shit yeah very proud of myself that you should be proud of yourself yeah market's cooling off people are hiring robots but not in the

hockey industry no not not no this is a people this is a people business baby they can't skate yet, baby. They can't skate yet. All right. So first and foremost, it depends at what your risk level is. Right. So how much money you will make and return on that 10,000 will dictate how much you're willing to risk. If you start off at the bare bones and just a high yield savings account, you'll want to go and shop it. So you'll want to go to like a credit karma or any kind of website like that and go look at where the best introductory offers when you bring new money in. because if you're a new client and they bring new money in, they'll incentivize you more. So there might be some offers up there of three and a half, four, four and a half, even five percent. So that's one option.

And you could just keep that in cash where it is. Another option, you know, you got to get the right deal. But a CD is a guaranteed rate lock, but you have to guarantee that your money will stay locked up for that period of time. But I saw an offer today for a four-month CD for 4.9%. That's great. So that means I put 10 grand in. I have to keep it in there for four months. I'm guaranteed 4.9% type thing. And where do I get those through? Can I get those through a bank? Is that like a third party? You can get through like a fidelity. You can get through a bank. Key bank? I mean, I think what you want to do is you want to go online and you want to see which financial institutions out there are offering the best CDs.

I got to go to KeyBank today because I got checks that have been sitting in my. passenger seat in my car for like six weeks so i got to go cash those i got to go cash those today so i'm i'm looking to do that so that's one tip jay i got another wait wait okay let's go let's just go in the market thing too um i'm looking right now i just googled it real quick again strictly just google it there's new vision credit union popular direct eagle bank dr bank they're offering five percent to four point five five four or five percent return so um look at this new vision credit union four month term right That's incredible. That's incredible. Another option you could do, David, is you can take this 10K and you could put it in the savings account, not CD in the savings account, earning interest, and then pick the first of every month and pick a time and just take $1,000 of that $10,000 and invest in the market. Then next month through the same thing, next month through the same thing that's dollar cost averaging. That will give you 10 different entry points and go into like a fund like VLO, you know? Or just like our last 30, at Thursday said a target date fund. That's a really good fun, mixed up of good stocks based on how

much risk you should take on, given your age, and do something like that. So those are some options. Are you said you had another question now? I do. And it comes from one of our viewers, one of our listeners, Brooke from Iowa left the review with the title, get David an iPhone, exclamation mark. We were talking about the new iPhone that's coming out. I still want to touch on that a little bit. But she says, with this being a business podcast, how does David not have a side hustle business set up and is taking advantage of write-offs. Please get him the hookup. I'm shook. This has not already been done. You know what, Brooke from Iowa? I'm a little shooketh too. So, Jason, tell me, you know I have a side business. I do this as a side business. I do some hockey consulting work, some scouting work.

Should I have an LLC or should I have something? And what, given what I'm doing, would I really actually be able to write off and how much money do you think that that translates to come tax season? That's a great question there, David. It all would come down to who does your taxes and how much money that you earn overall under the David umbrella to understand if a standardized deduction would do you better than itemizing your deductions. But in general, I think it's a good idea that you set up an LLC, you know, a Northwest registered agent. They are a sponsor of the podcast or go to like a legal Zoom and you could just set up an LLC. That money will flow through your LLC. you can then write off a whole lot of stuff.

I mean, you need a new computer, you use it to podcast. You need a new phone. You use that to podcast. Things that are connected. And again, this is not legal advice. This is for information education. I would tell you to go talk to your accountant. But things that qualify as a business expense that help you operate your business is an area

you can write off. You can technically write off a portion of your home costs. that is your office. So there's a lot of things that you can write off, David. So essentially, what it could do is it could take the income that you've earned from your side hustle. And as opposed to paying taxes on it based on money you're already spending because those could be considered business expenses, it would reduce that amount to almost zero. So you wouldn't have any type of tax liability. So when you're talking writeoffs, am I just listing a bunch of things out, providing receipts and things of that nature and then basically explaining how they impact my side hustles? And then I get

those things basically, is it like reimbursed? Great questions. You don't have to explain anything, but there are rules, there are laws, and you have to abide by those rules and laws. And then when you file your taxes, you would just put the amount for each of those based on what is acceptable. And then if you were to get audited and that wasn't true, then you would have legal ramifications. So you want to make sure that you keep your receipts. You want to make sure that you're doing everything to standard. I would always suggest talking to a professional, whether it's a virtual professional or it's a lot of these like, you know, all of these online tax advisories offer virtual setup options. But yeah, it's not like when I deduct things from my house

or when I deduct things from my expenses, I have receipts. It connects to digital. It connects to proof. But they're not asking me for a full write-up, right? I just, oh, there's my computer. It's two grand. Equipment can go at this amount. Boom, boom, boom. Are you getting a check then come tax season of all your write-offs? Like, how does that work? Imagine it's like when you fill out your form for taxes, imagine it's like a notebook. Okay. And in the notebook, it gives you like a job application, you know, where like it'll autopopulate your name like you put in your name. Yeah.

So in the actual tax filing, it'll put like gross income. It'll put expenses. It'll put the whole mix. It auto-populates what you would have to fill out in the form. Okay. That makes sense? Yeah, yeah. Okay.

So like for me, how it's done for me is all my bank accounts are connected to QuickBooks. QuickBooks is run by my accountant. They go through every single month of every single transaction, make sure that they put it and file it in the right area. And then once tax season comes, they just input what's from QuickBooks that's been gone through every single line. I don't in any single account that's touched my bank account and make sure it's reflected in my tax statements.

I got to get me one of those. I do think it's something I should look into and I do think it's time for to do that. So I'm on that and I will write off the new iPhone. I'm going to get the new iPhone. I'm going to do it. I'm going to just completely dive into the deep end. We talked about the cost of it. I know it seems absurd. But again, we use our cell phone more than we use any other thing in the history of our day-to-day lives. So I will justify the cost of a $2,500 phone. I love it. All right, David, a lot of action. I got to give you a week recap, right? So I did the 9-11 charity fund. I mean, this was crazy. Sierra was there. Russell Wilson is there. Matthew McConaughey's there.

Alex, your girl, Alex Earls there. I mean, the list is that my head's been. We're on the trade floor. That was absolutely incredible. That night, I ended up going to the nylon party. I run into Joey and Kelsey had such a great time with them. Rachel Kirkconnell was there. A bunch of them Love Islanders are there.

Dylan and Hannah Barber are there. I mean, this nylon party was like Gen Z Fest galore. I'm not talking about those people, talking about the people outside of it. Like, I was like, I was the oldest person at this party. But my God, was at a good party and did we have fun? there to like three in the morning. Saturday we wake up. We get invited to the Grey Goose Suite at US Open. In this suite is Andy Cohen. You have Shea Mitchell who started the Bayes bag. This is the weekender bag. She sold that for like 250 million. Her boyfriend manages Drake. So talk to him for a while,

which is cool. Ashley Graham is there. Like that was the coolest sweet ever. That night we went to the Doble Tequila party. Then Sunday we went to an event that Dylan Barber hosted with Eli Manning, got to see and meet Eli Manning, which is pretty sweet. I'll tell you what. That guy just looks like a math teacher. You're like, looking at this guy, you're like, how was this guy? So funny, too. He's got his, I mean, like, I'm talking like he's got his little half zip. Quarter zip all the way up.

Hey, guys, it's great to be here on behalf of Jameson and here is the Pythagrant Field. So that was fun, though. Saw Dale Moss. Oh, God, saw a grocery store Joe. He's doing great. You know, so good to see him. He's in great spirits. He's doing well.

He's running again. He's doing his thing. Serena was there. My God, Serena, the nicest human in the world. Yeah. After that, got to see John. Monday we took off but was invited to this Paris Hilton event for New York Fashion Week. Like this time of the year in New York City is absolutely crazy.

And then Tuesday had a dinner with Sony. Podcast was on a panel with Carl Radke from Summerhouse, Mrs. Dow Jones, which was great. And then yesterday, Evan had some meetings with some clients at night. We had Kendra Scott on the podcast. I mean, pretty much, I think she's very certain she's a billionaire now from her jewelry business that she started with $500. She came into this podcast, had like an army. She's got publishers. She's got makeup people.

She had a 24-7 security person, like absolutely killing it. Can't wait for that to air. And then last night went to an event with John Bufard and Kevin Hart. Landed this morning. We got Brad Pitt and the bills tonight. A lot of action, David. A lot of action. Social battery got to be nearly zero right now.

Negative. Like, are you drinking at these events? Are you partying? Like you say party, party, party? Like, is it just work, work, work? Like, are you trying to stay on your toes here? you, is there any party where you're just like, you know what, I'm just going to fucking have fun. The only, the nylon party I got after it pretty good.

Other than that, and actually at the Grey Goose Suite, at that great goose sweet, we were having a few sodas. Other than that, no. Like at the, like the Kevin Hart event yesterday, I had maybe one drink. At the Sony event, I had one or two drinks. So like, no. Okay. Not too bad.

A social cocktail. And you're speaking of social celebrities, sighting, scenes, dancing with the stars kicked off. Did you tune in? Did you see our boy Tyler? Week one, I saw you were voting for him nonstop. So how do you do? I didn't, I was voting for him. I talked to him the day before.

He's like, yo, I'm worried about votes. I'm like, dude, you're going to be fine. Trust me. And then he, I was like firing away. And I told him I would do that. And everyone else, I saw a ton of people do it. He crushed it. I think he did good.

I was a little underwhelmed week one. But yeah, it's a great show. I can't. Part of the show is they keep you along for the journey. but like overall a little underwhelmed. But I think they got it, you know, it was interesting to see that Connor Leavitt and Sarah Jane Nader, both of the siblings of the stars, right, were voted off.

That's, I find that very interesting. Just like both connected to shows there. I think it was a question mark of like, okay, should they be actually not be on? Both the siblings who voted off. And then my only other hot take is, I think we're running into a little bit of, little problem with dancing with the stars.

Okay. And I think the problem that we're running into, and it's a great problem for that show to have, I think the dancers are becoming bigger stars than the stars on the show. Like, I think the dancers have bigger social medias than most of those stars. I think they have more engagement. I think they have more fans. Like, I think the dancer, like, a val is is becoming a fucking massive star. Jenna, Emma, Danny. Like, they're becoming huge. And I think that might be a problem. Well, it's a problem that they created for the good reasons because they made all these stars really integrate social media and TikTok into the production of it all, which is

grown. I think it really helped the show in popularity. You're also, we're able to get people like Alex Earl, like Charlie DeMilleo on, which helped really expand it. But like to your point, like now they're part of the machine, part of the beast, you can't have a show like Dancing with the Stars. while the dancers are becoming stars and have some of the celebrities be like who's that like not be like slam dunk 75% of the population knows who they are to really feed that show so I think that that's maybe a

small thing I also think I said this before I think Jenna's an amazing dancer I think they're gonna win but just like when you get someone who's like why would I watch I already know who's gonna win yeah like there's no way valent Jenna aren't going to win like come on she's they're electric they're they're fuck I'll watch them but not I won't watch the show to find out who wins because I'll just want to watch them. Yeah. Yeah. I need another hot take from you, though.

Yeah, let's hear it. The vow. Chris Harrison. The Voss. If you guys haven't seen it, internet broke yesterday in the reality TV, a bachelor nation world. Chris Harrison,

five years out of retirement. My guess is probably a day after he probably had a five-year non-compete. Fox has hired Chris Harrison to do a show called The Vow. A lot of road. is in the promo. That little like half step over the rose,

like he was going to squish it and then skipped it. The first thing I thought about if I could just interrupt, I have to. I just was like, how is there not? I thought they're like a lawsuit. Like it said the bachelor and all the roses. Obviously they did their work to make sure,

but don't, didn't you think for a second? Like, are they kind of touching your lawsuit? Well, that's why I'm like, this has to be a day after some kind of NDA, non-compete, whatever.

Ah. It's just my uneducated thought on it all. But if you look at the lead, it looks like a typical bachelor's lead. It looks like Colton and Zach and Clayton all mashed into one person. Surprisingly that they're going with someone who's not known on any social media platform, business, any kind of like pizzazz. I read today only six episodes, too. I'm going to say this. It is interesting.

I think that's probably a conspiracy that's not true. but I'm looking, I just Googled it. It looks like June 8th, 2021, ABC and Harrison announced his departure from the franchise of nearly 20 years. So let's just assume that announcement went out June 8. I could see it taken three months, four months, two, three, four months to get that contract, whatever that contract was negotiated. And it is interesting. Like, I don't think it's true, but it is interesting timing that it is five years, like literally to the day.

You know, that's one where I might have to call Chris and say, hey, I'm just curious. Let's get Chris on the pod, promote the show. On the pod, promote the show. I will say, though, this is what was fire. Just hearing Chris Harrison's voice, like on the promo, it was the style. I was like, oh, shit. That was. Oh, my God.

That was fire. I love a little, like, I do love a little, like, cocky Chris Harrison. Like, I do love him, like, come out of the gates being like, you know you're going to watch. Like, I know you think this is stupid. I know you can't believe that we're doing the exact same show. I know you can't believe that our lead looks like the exact same lead we normally have. I know that you, we're having roses. I know you, but you're going to watch. I'm Chris Harrison. You want another spoiler? I don't have any contracts. I. Okay. John Gurney was literally the guy. For the bow? The guy. Fourth and centimeters. How did you fucking up?

he was like they literally like they I mean it's his story to tell but he was the guy until like a second he wasn't so we'll have john on we'll have john on 30 minute thursdays after we get chris on yeah next for the vow we're going to have john on how quick quick apology to all of our listeners by the way uh chris has been a friend for a while and so is l z i hope they crush it I hope it absolutely dominates, succeeds. And the thing that you can't deny, he's one of the best hosts in dating television that we've ever seen. The best.

I mean, you can't argue that, right? The goat. Yeah, the best. Yeah, 100%. Other than that dude that does Survivor, it's like those two have the best history. Jeff Probes. Or some respect on Jeff Probe's name.

His producing team is merely identical to the team that, that he worked with in the bachelor years ago. There was even, you know, when I was single back in my day, I was talking to Chris and I had a couple conversations about what was coming and maybe that might be a fit. Interesting. Things have worked out the way they have. And I wish them nothing but success with the show.

Do we want to apologize for all trading secrets fans? Part of it's apology, part of it's not. The apology is to Jesse James Decker and her team. We had recorded the episode. The episode's amazing. I can't wait for you guys to hear it. And unfortunately, they had, mentioned to our team that it shouldn't go out until October because that's when her book goes out.

And our team did not see that. And we released it and the person in charge of that missed it. And then they let us know first thing Monday. We of course immediately pulled it down and said our apologies. And that's why we put up the Val episode. But part of the thing, David, is like, we had so many damn good episodes in the bank from five years plus that like it's kind of nice to hear and see some of those. That being said, David, we're past our 30 minutes. So you got anything else you on a wrap with? I don't think I have anything else. I don't think I have any of the impression coming up to tease to shout out. We got the big bills game tonight. Hopefully you make it through the evening. Hopefully the bills win. Hopefully Catherine doesn't spend too much time looking into Brad

Pitt's beautiful eyeballs and you guys can have a nice night tonight and not want to kill each other, whether it be the football game or some stage flirting that needs to happen. So you just take care of yourself tonight, okay? A Buffalo Bills, Lions, Brad Pitt brawl. That's a great way to wrap 30 minute Thursday on the first Thursday we've ever recorded. John Gertie will edit this thing, spin it out here in just a minute. Thank you for tuning into another episode, Tracy. You guys, well, you couldn't afford to miss. If you want a $3,000 a month payday for life, what would you feel free to do? Maybe take a long weekend, every weekend, or try a bunch of new hobbies. Would you feel free to upgrade and listen ad free? Don't worry. We get it. Every $20 ticket could win you

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