Trading Secrets - Bachelor Nation fan favorites Greg Grippo & Andrew Spencer dive into life before and after The Bachelorette, thriving with content creation, and moving forward while in the public eye

Episode Date: April 22, 2024

This week, Jason is joined by Bachelor Nation fan favorites, Greg Grippo and Andrew Spencer! Greg and Andrew became known to many from their time on Katie Thurston’s season of The Bachelorette or on Bachelor in Paradise for Andrew. More recently, the dynamic duo has created a string of sketch comedy content on social media, which has caught the eyes of brands, followers, and people from all over the world. What you may not know is their unique career paths leading up to their time on reality TV and before they became content creators.  Andrew and Greg give insight to what Andrew’s career playing football in Austria, Greg’s opinion of working in life insurance sales and how it leaving that job lead to him taking acting classes, how much work goes into acting, what platform Andrew used which generated good revenue, how they incorporate artistic elements to their content creation, and their collaborative process. Greg and Andrew also reveal the shock they had when finding out the money potential in social media, how difficult it can be to plan for tragedy, how they started doing skits together, what comedy inspires them, their relationship statuses and how they manage the public eye, moving forward, and putting yourself in situations where you need to elevate yourself. When was the first time Andrew was spotted on The Bachelorette? Who does Jason think would have taken his spot during hometowns? Do they see themselves going back to reality TV?  Andrew and Greg reveal all that and so much more in another episode you can’t afford to miss!  Host: Jason Tartick Co-Host: David Arduin Audio: John Gurney  Guests: Greg Grippo + Andrew Spencer Stay connected with the Trading Secrets Podcast!  Instagram: @tradingsecretspodcast  Youtube: Trading Secrets Facebook: Join the Group All Access: Free 30-Day Trial  Deals! Yahoo Finance: For more than 25 years, Yahoo Finance has been the Brand behind every great investor. Whether you're a seasoned investor or are looking for that extra guidance, Yahoo Finance gives you all the tools and data you need in one place. They are the #1 finance destination, producing a holistic look at the financial news cycle, including breaking news, original editorial perspectives, analyst ratings, independent research, customizable charts, and so much more. For comprehensive financial news and analysis, visit the brand behind every great investor, YahooFinance.com. Yahoo Finance is a sponsor of Trading Secrets Hims: Hims is changing men’s healthcare by providing access to affordable sexual health treatments, from the comfort of your couch. Hims provides access to doctor-trusted ED treatment options such as chewable Hard Mints, brand-name treatments like Viagra, or generic alternatives for up to 95% cheaper. The process is simple and 100% online. No uncomfortable doctor's visits. Start your free online visit today at Hims.com/TRADINGSECRETS Twillory: Twillory offers stylish, performance-driven suits, shirts, polos, and jeans designed for every aspect of the busy man’s life. Our clothes are wrinkle-resistant with plenty of stretch to keep you comfy, and yes – they’re all machine washable. Special new customer offer for Trading Secrets listeners! Use code JTA18 at https://twillory.com/ to get 18% off $139.

Welcome back to another episode of Trading Secrets. Today we are joined by two fan favorites from Bachelor Nation, Greg, Grippo, and Andrew Spencer. Many of you know Greg and Andrew, this is, I got the two for one here. Many of you know Greg and Andrew from their time on Katie Thurston's season. of The Bachelorette or on Bachelor in Paradise for Andrew. More recently, the dynamic duo has created a string of sketch comedy content on social media, which has caught the eyes of brands, followers, and people from all around the world. What you may not know is their unique career paths leading up to their time on reality TV

and before they became content creators. Both Greg and Andrew were college athletes who took different paths post-college. between Andrew playing professional football in Austria and Greg pursuing life insurance while exploring his creative side. He also played D2 basketball. Oh, and D2 basketball while also pursuing life insurance and his creative side with acting lessons. They can provide so much insight from their perspective careers that many of our listeners may not be familiar with. This is going to be an interview like no other with Greg and Andrew. We're talking all things, reality TV before where you are today. We're diving into

financial. We're diving into professional. And with you two here and a lot of news out there, we might have to dive into a little personal. But thank you guys for being on trading secrets. I wish you can give us an intro into every single room we walk into. Like last night at the party, I shouldn't just stop. Guys, Greg and Andrew are here. Give me the mic. Let's do this. So speaking of that, I think it's a good, usually I go in like chronological order with my guests. We go all the way back. But I think we need to come all the way forward just because of last night. Last night was the talk about to me book party.

We went out afterwards. How are you guys doing? That was a good time. Glasses are still on. Glasses are still on. Yeah, I should have my glasses on right now. Man, we got back to life finally within the last couple hours. But, gosh, this has been one of the most brutal hango.

You know how to throw a party. Yeah, JT. Honestly, you know how to throw a party. It was really cool to see everyone just really just very comfortable. It was funny me, charity. Yeah. And Dotting. Yeah.

Charity's great. Yeah, it was a lot of Bachelor Nation mix-up. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was a fucking crowd. And you know what? Usually there's drama. I don't think there was any drama. Everyone was having fun.

Yeah. Everyone was having fun. Like, I feel like there's always, like, when you get a Bachelor nation together, too, I feel like there's always like a lot of tea the next day. Yeah. I don't think there, I mean, a little bit here and there.

But I don't think here and there. But, like, nothing crazy. I think it was pretty good. Yeah. I feel like the group consensus was all hammered. Yeah. I've never seen a more disheveled group pile into a bar. I was like, we're, we look terrible as a human.

I was ripping shots down people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've never seen him. Come on, that bad? I promise you, I've never, this is what he was doing. This was me in the club. That was just me in the club. I've seen it.

I was like, bro, this is ridiculous. I love that. I don't know if you saw charities. You know how like an Instagram and the messenger you put like in a way message? Yeah. Charities message said, do you see it? I was like, I hung, hung completely over. Completely.

Yeah, I hung completely over. So I think we were all feeling it. But good times. I'm glad we can make this happen. Let's go back in time a little bit, all right? So, Greg, I'm going to start with you. So I didn't realize that you had been casted to go on Becca season. We could have been on the same season, dude, yeah.

So how old would you? I think if you went on when Becca, you know, the long hair thing, like, I would have been fucked. I had a shaved head at that time, too. Oh, really? Yeah, dude. I was dating somebody out in L.A. during that time. And when I got the call, an L.A. number popped up. and I was like

this is just her calling me from her work phone or something and they were like oh this is so-and-so from The Bachelor and I thought it was either her or like one of my buddies and I just hung up but then they were reaching out

and it was for Becca season that was like 24 at the time I was like no I'm absolutely like way too young for this I think that's pretty rare though because they went to you for back a season Claire's season Tasia season Katie season

so they clearly I'm all about you but that wasn't the case for me I was actually on your guys of season two. I was on the back of season. I was and Clay's like, oh, no intro video. That's right. You were in the package. Are you fucking kidding me? Yeah, I remember that.

We got to pull that up. Look at you. That's crazy. You go to your IMDB or whatever the hell it is. It's probably there that you made an appearance. I didn't say anything. I didn't get any talking parts, but, you know, we'll have to talk about that. And, you know, they told me weren't going to film us eating. Okay. Bro. They filmed you. You were house. You were house and chicken. Chicken, too. Oh, no.

Look how this is going to make Clay look. Look at it. That looks really good. It was funny, man. But no, yeah. Is that where they met you? Is that how you got recruited from that video? No.

I think Clay had me in like an Instagram post or something like that. And it was like, yeah, my cousin, he'd be great for the show as well. Yeah. And yeah, he sent me over there. Okay, good stuff. Before you accepted that role, were you playing pro football? Yeah, dude, I was in Austria. Okay.

So you're in Austria. How many years are you playing at this point? This is my second year in Austria. Oh, third year. Third year. Okay, I didn't even know there was an Austria football league until I did more research. Oh, dude, it's gotten really big right now. They conjoined like all the nations now.

So it's like you're not only playing in Austria. You play like in pretty much all Europe. It's like you are. Oh, sweet. So they just re-did that and now it's getting bigger and bigger, which is great. Cool. I got to ask trading secrets. What kind of money can you make in an Austria football?

So I was making about 2K a month. Okay. But I didn't pay for anything. Okay, so no expenses. No expenses. like rent was free. Okay, cool. Food, travel.

Like, everything was, you know, was free. Yeah. So on top of that, we have 2K, and then obviously it's paid in cash. Yeah. Because there's no tag. Like, the tax situation is different. No. So I was just like, I was keeping, I was pocketing everything.

Okay. And I came back in the States, didn't even have to get that tax or anything as well. So it was all cash. From the IRS's list. Yeah. So, no. It gets a call tomorrow. There's, no.

So, no, it wasn't the, it wasn't the, it wasn't the best money-making. spot. But honestly, it was probably what I needed at that age. Just to kind of figure out living on my own. I was in a whole country by myself. So you're figuring how to stretch a couple of dollars and do that and still try to travel the places you've never seen in your life. None of my family has been

across the pond. Sure. And here you are getting paid out there to play a sport and do it. Yeah. So I was going to try to do whatever I can to travel and see the world while also trying to balance making money and making a living. For sure. Now, with Clay, what's interesting is when he was on Becca's season, another reason why I made it to

hometowns, otherwise I wouldn't have. Clay, Clay was going deep. I think Clay would have won. I think Clay was like top two. Wait, wait, when did you? Was it? So Colton came in fourth, I came in third. Okay. And then Blake Horstman came in second. Oh, okay. Got you. And Garrett won. So Blake and Garrett had like a true real connection. Right. And then Colton was such a good story. Like even if they didn't have a connection, he had to go. And I think Clay would have taken it. But he got hurt in the football game. And then had to go. And then had to go. rehab himself to actually go try out for the Buffalo Bills. Yeah.

And then he got cut. He got hurt. He got hurt. Or he got hurt at trials. He like smacked into a wall. Yeah. But I'm telling you, if he was, if he didn't get hurt, no chance I go to hometowns. But let me ask you this.

When you wanted a bachelor's, was that a, did you have to make a career sacrifice? Or did you know that your football career was dwindling? You know, yeah. I figured it was dwindling. I knew I had to like, so one of the craziest things everyone says is like every athlete dies twice. And it's very true. So I was like juggling like how, what am I transitioning to when I've always been this athlete,

always played to sports, been playing football since I was four. Yeah. So I'm like, this is all I know. Yeah. You know, and like when this opportunity came up, I was like, oh, okay, well, let's see what we can do with this and how it's going to, you know, what the experience we can come from this. And, you know, obviously I went back and still played. Yeah. And I still want to play.

I still feel like I could, I can play. Yeah. But I obviously knew that it was, you know, rather than beating my brain in for a chump change, Let's get on reality TV. That can change my life. Let's start smiling. Have a good time. All right.

So you go on the show. Greg, let's kick it to you, though. So you were life insurance sales. You then quit after what, like six months? You just, you hated it. I listened to an interview that you couldn't stand it. Yeah.

It was tough with cold calling. And like I felt like it was just like so, it was tough. Like, I felt it was really unethical. Like calling, like, my people. And I felt like it was kind of like schemy a little bit. And, like, You know, they were like, come on, Greg.

Yeah, I was going to, you know, my principal, my head coach. And, like, everything just felt so fake to me. Yeah, it's a little... The way they structure that, with, like, you have to dial only your friends and friends. It's a little slimy. Yeah, no, I get that. I felt really slimy. Like, I just, I was like, you know, this isn't going to be for me long term.

Yeah. But, I mean, the studying and, like, in that license for me was no joke. Oh, it's hard. Yeah, man. It's really. I did the same thing. I felt slimy. And I had to, like, so I had to do the same thing.

Yeah. That's why I speak for experience. Like your Series 7? Yeah, well, I got the insurance license. You know how you have to first get the insurance license? Life action and health? Exactly. Then start studying for Series 7 and 6.

And then I just, we ended up getting in the lending side. Right. But the like idea of calling mom and dad and being, let's sit down and talk about a whole life. I was like, I felt gross to it. Right. I just didn't like it. So, but you, this is like the infamous story where to get your creative side, you're like, I just need something else in life.

And that's when you started taking lessons, right? Yeah, you know what? I didn't know what or how or, how it was going to happen at all for me with acting. Because I was like, you know, I don't love it enough to be, like, doing Broadway type things. And, like, I don't love it enough to like... Can you sing to? Hell no. Okay. Hell no.

I wish, bro. I was going to say, can you dance, but last night. Are you kidding? I don't know. You know what, man, if I could sing you and know by now, I'd be putting that shit out there at this point. Same. I would be one of those dudes that would just, like, grab a guitar and just start going to, like, singing in front of the camera. The old ladies look bored over the I think the guy that was playing the piano yesterday

I was like could you imagine like if you can just go on a piano and say Hey my god That's insane dude Bro every every special engagement That I need to do with my girl Would be dawling in the song It's a all you need is a song

You mentioned I wrote this song about you today baby Speaking of a girl We'll get to that for all the people that care But not yet, not yet All right so you do the acting lessons I heard I think it was a Nick's interview you're like, I was just looking for something to, like, get my creative juices for it.

Yeah, I'm not going to lie. I mean, and like, this is like what people say too. And like, I like, you know, see comments or people are like, he didn't just go to any acting school. He went to like a prestigious and like, yeah, it was a fucking good ass acting school. And like, you know what? How'd you get in? Did you have to like try it out to get in? So, no, I had to read the book. It was done by William Esper. And he is one of the, he was one of the last remaining, um, a master acting teachers. That was still living. He got, he was... I'm a dumb question for you. Master at, what does that mean? Like, like, just literally like, like, like, like karate. Oh, okay, like, like a black belt of acting.

Yeah, like he's like, okay. So, like, there's something called, like, the Meisner technique. Okay. Where, like, it was known by actors worldwide and people were studying this technique, but it was kind of like, it was originated by Sandy Meisner, but he grew up in acting with Sandy Meisner. Okay. And he brought that technique.

to his own studio and he was just teaching it. And like he was one of the only people left in like the art of like old school acting that was like still able to teach. But yeah, I mean I was lucky enough to get a scholarship for basketball where it was a full ride. And then after that, my parents helped me out.

And I forget how much it was a year. When you say help me out, like help you out with what? For acting, they were like, you know what? We really like, want you to give it a shot. Yeah, we paid for, your sisters and brothers. So, like, if you want to do this, we'll help you out. And I think it was around like 12,000 a year. And it was like for two years. But the second time or the second year, I lowered it. It was like, it was probably a little less because I had to do part time because

my dad got sick and stuff. Right. Yeah. So I'd be home like a lot. Okay. But how do you, to get into like a prestigious school like that? Do you have to do audition? I know you have to read the book, but like, why do you get into these schools? So for me, it was like, Should we apply? Oh, we saw you, man. I saw you. Let's know that act. This thing you pulled the other day on Instagram.

A little Disney, how do you do? Yeah. Page out of all your book. I wish you guys can see this school. I mean, it is the most, like, I had the most amazing teacher. Yeah, I'm super jealous, obviously. Really? It's like really one of the cool things.

She's like one of the most powerful human beings I've ever been in a room with. Did that you hear? Yeah, you met Suzanne. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She just had such a strong impact on my life. And like, I was just really lucky. I was, I think that I was, one of the only individuals there that never had any experience.

Okay. But I read the book and I was like, you know what? This is what I want. And I drove to the studio, introduced myself to her. Cool. And she was like, you know what? We don't usually let in people that don't really have any experience, but you seem like a green individual.

You are six foot two. I'm beautiful. You kind of look like I taught him way back. See the resemblance. Sign here, press hard. You're it. Who is the guy when we were, when we did like a little, when we talked to Drew, Barrymore for a little bit? So there's like a huge alumni that came out of this school. Oh, yeah, yeah. Larry David took classes there. Jeff. I'm sorry. Jeff Goldblum.

So talk to me about this. Someone that's never gone to acting school and they're interested in the career. They're interested in watching. They see actors. They see actors. Like what is the biggest like trading secret you give us from acting school? Either something that you actually apply to your life today. Like you still like do it. it or something like we just wouldn't know about acting. Gosh. All right. For acting, I think that one, you've got to be extremely lucky because there are a million amazing actors out there. And it's not just going to be your skill.

I think that you got to also be a good people person. I think you got to build your connections. And I think that you're just going to have to grind it out. I think that if you want something bad enough, whatever is in life, I think that you can eventually find that or find some sort of capacity of what you're looking for. But yeah, with acting, I can tell you right now, I knew how hard and rigorous it was going to be of work. And I was not willing to go down that path. Okay. So it's a grind. Well, we know like in football, like bench press squats. There are numbers that connect to like success and strength. Is there anything

in acting school that like you know this person is good because they could either like cry on demand or like instantly do something that's special? Like what's the thing? Is there something you're supposed to be able to do when you get out of there or not like that. So I was always taught in that school that acting is the art of acting truthful under imaginary circumstances. And when you're able to just open yourself up to the scene and like when I was watching these people work, it's such like some of the most incredible things when like you're able to just like see somebody be completely vulnerable. Yeah. And honestly, it just takes just like a really strong person just to get up there and just be like, I don't give a fuck about these 15 other people watching me right now.

Yeah. This is how I would live in this situation right here. Yeah. And like, these are my walls. You guys can judge whatever the fuck you want. Yeah. And like, this is just me. I love it.

Yeah, and I love it. That's so cool. One thing I think, too, is like, you know, there was some like pushback, whatever. Like, oh, he's an actor and you're on the reality show. But like, if you go to any late night show and you see the actors, even the best in the world can't, like, go into acting mode. And they're like, awkward in person. Oh, yeah.

So I don't think that, like, especially, you're like, especially, reality TV, I don't, you cannot, like, it's, for anyone that's been in it, us three have been it, it isn't, even if you're like a super trained actor, it's impossible. Yeah. To go into act, it's impossible. You can't. I felt like the more I planned things. The more you were fucked out, like, the more without a doubt. Yes, when you try to be like scripted whoever, it was a mess. My whole paradise was like, I don't think there's, and there was an actor on this past season and no one said a word about it. Oh yeah. There's no connection between acting and falsifying your way through reality TV.

Isn't that incredible? There was an actor. Not one person. I couldn't act for shit. And my ass. And my ass was getting cooked. They were acting like I was Meryl Street. No, literally.

Literally. All right, let's wrap up the acting thing with this. Anything about the career that you know, as far as it connects to like the dollars and cents. Like when you auditioned, do you know, like, how do people get paid in this space? Obviously, we see the big contracts from like the big actors. But anything about like the economics of acting, you know about possibly even thinking about pursuing a career today? I have

no idea. I haven't even been on an audition in my life. Really? Seriously, you've never done one audition? I haven't done one audition. Dude, I've even done an audition. Yeah, I've never done one audition. Really? I'm not going to lie to you. Yeah. Yeah. I'm shocked. Your school sucks, dude. No, I...

School of heart knocks over here. You're going to audition. It was so tough and like... Yeah, dude, it's a scary shit in the world. Honestly, like, I wish... I wish you guys could see, like, the situation I was in. There's something called mass class where this guy, oh my God, it was the most, it was the craziest fucking time in my life.

This guy was a certified witch. Whoever's listening and you guys don't believe in this shit, whatever. This guy was 100% of witch. And he walks in, full on robe walking in. And he's like, it was like fight club. He walks in and he's like, there's only like three rules. You will be unapologetically you.

And if you're late, you will come in and just announce without any hesitation or grief that you are late like I've seen dudes walk in and like they tried like he was late I made sure I was never late because I never wanted to do this

but like they were like I'm late he was like get the fuck out of here and you like actually kicked them out oh yeah oh really oh my god dude this guy was fucking insane I tried to connect with him one time

and have a conversation with him and he was like wait he's got the robot oh my god dude I need an actual picture I'm not kidding you, his name's Akeel. I think he was like 50, and like he was fucking ripped. Like, yeah, no, I wish, I wish people could see this. That's good, by the way.

Put that on your reel. That little fucking move right there. One of the most incredible experiences of my life. I went to one acting class, and Jonathan Schett got me in. He was on that thing you do because I was just curious. I sat in the back and just watched. It was intense, dude. Because if you don't come prepared with your lines,

like the guy was like Simon Cowell, same thing. He would ream you out. Then one girl I've never seen or heard this before she was preparing for the scene where she comes in yelling at her husband who cheated on her. And before the scene, she just said to the class, she's like, are you guys okay if I scream? She screamed bloody fucking. I actually, to be honest,

I've never heard a human in my life scream the way she screamed to prepare her mind to get in. And then when she went in, the guy's like, not good enough. He brings her in the back and I'm in the last row so I could hear and he starts talking about her ex-boyfriend. Oh, my God.

Because, like, they obviously had some relationship that he was like, remember when he did this? Remember when he did that? And she just starts bawling her eyes out. And as she's bawling her eyes out, coach goes, we good, we film it?

And she's bawling, yeah. Go now! And throws her in there. Holy shit, I'm like, this shit is not. I thought banking was crazy. I thought this was some hard word. This is a whole different ball game. It's an early.

All right, we'll wrap the acting, economics, career, behind the scenes with that. Let's fast forward. You get off the show. Talk to me about what does business look like for you. Are deals coming in? How long does it take?

What are the deals? What does the economics of your job look like right when you get off the show? Andrew will start with you. Pretty slow right off the jump. You know, I think cameo was carrying a lot of us. Oh, my God, you were on that. Crushing cameos. What was your price point?

What were you doing? I was very cheap. Yeah. I'm like, dude, I'm not that cool. A high volume. Yeah. So I'm like, all right. Well, I mean, if people want to say hi or don't want me to say hi to them,

cool, like, I'm not going to charge $175 for one video for $15, like, that's, who do I think I am? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I would do like, like, $10 face-times and we'd talk and just literally have like a little day. It's a good way to connect with people, too. Yeah, I was like, all right, let's do this. And we would just chat and he'd be in the videos and whatnot.

We'd just hang out. I was like, well, I'm too awkward for that. He's so good for that. He was made for that. Yeah, and I just got off this game back from. from Austria. And I wasn't going back. I was in teaching as well. I teach as well when I would go half in Austria and half teaching and coaching the second half. So I was like, I'm not going to do that. I'm like, I'm going to go fall in with this like influencer thing. So you went full

speed in with it? Yeah. Right after. First year. Give me an approximation. How much you think you made if you had to guess? First year. Well, we had a, we couldn't do deals for like what, three or six What was it? Three months? See, don't do it like anymore. Like, they, they do deals. Oh, I think it's, no, it's three months now. It's three months. When you still have to get approval for a while. Yes. Oh my God, the approval sucked, man. We had to turn down

a lot from the approval. Yeah, we had some, we had some, we've had some, like, like, Colton and a few others that came on saying, like, how much money they lost in that period. No, I would probably, I would probably say the first time, first year, probably around 75. Okay. And so that was full time, though. That was full time. But, like,

it's changed different. It's way different now. Have you had a year? Was that your lowest earning year with social media since? So every year, is it grown every year since then? Yeah. Okay.

So in 2024, is it trending to be better than it was back? And what was it? 2021 that you get off? 2021. Okay. So every year's gone up. Okay.

Every year's gone up. Are there other ways that you've implemented like earning income or is it? Are you all in our content? No. So I'm hoping to be working with ESPN more. hopefully get into broadcasting. Are you currently working with you? I have a little in.

Amazing. I've been on college team day a couple times now. I've worked with them for the Rose Bowl in the national championship game. Cool. I did a little thing with the NFL as well. So hopefully I'm just trying to like, I mean, my agency is just trying to get me into broadcasting.

Yeah. But other than that, I mean, we're partnership in a way. You guys are killing it. Yeah. So, you know, if we don't do a podcast, if we don't do it, whatever the case may be, maybe we come out with our own Hallmark movie. You've got to come up with something.

Yes. I think that's really what we want to push. Obviously, influencing is done very well. I don't think that's like my end game. I don't think that's our end game at all. But right now, it could be. It's doing a lot of, we're not mad at it. I mean, there's a lot of money that's, you know what I mean?

Like, it's a big business. Yeah. But there's obviously other things you can spin off. Yeah. And we try hard for our heads. Like, we're putting on costumes. Yeah. You know, so we make sure that it's like, it's like, it's like something that people

aren't just like, oh, they're just using this to get money or whatever. You know what I mean? At the same time, like, we put a little art into it. Yeah, let me ask you this. And I'm going to kick it to you when you got out of the show. But it's suppose your structure now, suppose you guys get a deal. I don't know, let's say it's white claw, okay? And they have a white clawed.

Yeah, me too. I got to post it tonight, actually. Was it the Superclaw? No, this one. Oh, I'm going to do the vodka. I got to see different. They gave me the 0%. I got to do like business networking.

Zero percent. We all got our brand. It was just the vodka. That video's going to be nuts, man. I'm in like a 70s outfit with an afro on. It's so stupid. Yeah. All right.

Well, back to the question. You do a white claw ad and Greg comes in it. How do you guys, do you have like a structure? You give him like $100. Do you give him a cut? No. Do you just say, I'll help you. You help me.

Yeah. I think that's how it is in general. Like, I don't think we ever like look at each other to like, are you going to pay me back for a little, but it just kind of works itself out, whether we grab dinner, whoever puts his car down first or if no one's paying attention. Like, we just, it's just like, you know what I mean? Our friendship was way more than that. Yeah.

I think we're never looking at it as a price. Like if he needs help with anything, I mean, he's like my brother, so it's easy. Yeah, family right there. Yeah. All right. Let me take a guess. And you can tell me to F off if you want, but I got to do it. It's in trend training sequence.

This past year, over $200,000? No, right around there. Right there. Right there. Okay. I was going to guess right about that. Projected more, though. Projected more.

This year is going to be more than that. Let's go. I love to hear it. All right, we're kicking in now to you, Greg. You get off the show? Yeah. Your journey was, right? Your journey was like, you had all these fans. We had to deal with adversity and there was lefts and rights and all these things. Talk to me about what it looked like from earnings, economics perspective, right off the show. Right off. So it was about when do we get off? It was August. When does Gov ball hit? That's like September October? Is it September? Yeah. I got like my agent reached out. I have a new agent now, but my old agent

reached it out. They were like... Do you guys have the same agent or no? No, not anymore. No, no, no. No, because we can do the same deals. We just are doing non-exclusive for a while. Greatest decision in my life.

If we bring you guys, go non-exclusive. Like, so suppose I got you guys a deal, can I bring it to you or no? Yeah, absolutely. Well, actually, I work with Parker. Yeah, yeah. Parker's great. I think that you guys are close with Parker.

We have a relationship with that. Parker's great, yeah. But right off the show, I was like, holy shit, because I reached out to by brand to go attend Gov Ball. And they were like, oh, like, they want to pay you 20K for, to be in this tent for 10 minutes with fans and eat lunch and snap a photo. I was like, fucking, excuse me. I was calling my principals to sell life insurance and make $200.

That would be $20,000. Yeah, so that was just a huge shock, honestly. Especially with, like, how I was living prior and, like, the means that I was. And, like, I didn't grow up rich at all. And especially we struggled a lot with my dad being sick. My mom lost a lot of money. And I mean, I was trying to do everything I can. I mean, I was, I was bartending, I was fit modeling, I was Ubering.

It was tough. To contribute to the family. Yeah, it was tough. And just, like, hold my own because I was just like, I can't rely on them. And, like, I was 24 years old, like, being like, I got to fucking shape up. And, like, I was trying to do everything I can just make any amount of money I could just, like, help out in any way. So, like, getting these deals was just, I was like. And, like, I wasn't even, there was obviously that period of time, three months.

where there's like no deals. Yeah. And so I wasn't even able to entertain it. Yeah, of course. Yeah, I mean, that was like a huge shock. Huge shock of finding out, figuring out social media. It's a whole, like the whole game is not the money about it. It's not.

I want to ask one question. And if you don't, if you want to pass on this, totally pass on this. But I was just thinking, I always think, unfortunately, through tragedy, we can like learn a lot and probably do things differently. So given what happened to your father and maybe some of the healthcare costs, some of the health care costs associated or different insurances or anything. Is there anything that you would have, either your mother would have done differently. He might have done differently just from like a planning preparation that like maybe one person listens to this.

They could take that advice and maybe it apply it to like their families or like. You know what? It's tough because obviously I think that there's better routes that we could have taken to like save money. But like he was in the hospital for his last, I want to say 10 days. And, like, he could, he was on his last few days. And he wasn't really able to communicate with us anymore. And he was pretty much telling us that, like, all he was, like, really heavily drugged. And, like, he was just communicating, though.

He was, like, home. He kept on saying home. And, like, we had to rent our own ambulance, rent the own bed. And I think that was around, like, $17,000 to drive him about a mile. Because the hospital was around a mile from my house. and yeah you know what I don't think that

looking back on it I don't think my mom would change anything because he was as soon as we got in the house we turned on the Cowboys game and then he passed right then and there

right after the game but like he passed where he wanted to go and I think that like when you're going through tragedy I think it's tough and like I think that making that person comfortable

is probably the most important thing so like just trying as best as you can to just help that person out. Yeah, exactly. Well, thank you through talking about that. I know that's probably tough to even rethink about that stuff. But through all those, I think, there's just so much that, you know, we could take away and learn.

When I hear some of those price points, it's just nausea. Yeah. I'm sorry, $17,000 that they charge for a mile. Yeah, it was wild. Yeah, it's just bullshit. Yeah. So hopefully there are some changes in that department moving toward because that's absolutely ridiculous absolutely ridiculous yeah okay when you look forward right now so 2024 you guys have momentum at

your back you guys got your skits you're doing together your your engagements off the charts there's some new updates in both your lives personally we'll get to that in the second but like professionally what does it look like one two five years like what's the dream we'll kick it to you first hmm you know I'm enjoying at this point in my life because you know it is good money but the thing that I'm most happy about is that we're legitimately having fun doing shit and like I'm... There's no better substitute.

And I don't think that there's like... Like what you do, like if like you're saying something and people are like, holy shit, I didn't know that, you know? I'm sure that brings a lot of joy into your life. Like, and for us, like, just like seeing people laugh or something or like bringing or people coming up to us on the street and being like, you guys make me crack the fuck up. Like, it's just, it just kind of fills us up.

Yeah. Yeah. I better pause that shit You know what I mean It fills me up, hey Yeah Anyway I love you man skit you guys did

That was that was gold Well my god Oh my god We are not the originators of that skit Oh okay No no that's one of the only Obviously there's trends on social media and shit Yeah but that was a skit done

about fucking 10 years ago. Yeah. Was it on social media? Yeah. It was on social media because these dudes made a TikTok about it. But also it was done prior to that years ago, like hundreds of times.

And bunch of people have done it too. And we thought it was funny. And we put our spin on it. And we put our spin on it. And like people are going. Oh, I thought it was. Yeah. I watched it like six times.

Because you know our personality. You know who we are. You know old that. We have this like good brotherly bond. That's why it makes sense for us to do that video And that's why I think it does well And I feel like everyone's like, oh, you stole the skit Like that's someone else's working.

No, I think a lot of it is because people know How we are with each other Combined with the skit makes it good. Totally 100%. You made it your own. Greg, I got to backtrack just a little bit. We got to talk. Earnings, have you done anything?

Is content creation full-time jobs since the show? Okay. Yeah. Give me an estimate. Where are we at here? It was round four last year. Let's go, baby. I don't understand the numbers, and he has really good numbers.

I don't think people understand how really good his numbers. Your engagement. His engagement and how he does. And I'm like, dude, that's, that's some really, and for like the amount of followers that he has, he doesn't, he doesn't pull, he doesn't have a lot of followers compared to some other people. But the numbers that he puts on the table. It's crazy. Thank you, man. I've seen him.

Like doubles people with like tons of more followers. So I'm like, I'm like, I'm like. It's really nice, bro. Thank you. Shut up. That's true, though. That's nice. And that's why, like, that's how people are engaged is crazy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all KPS. Like, the followers doesn't mean shit. Followers doesn't mean. It's about your engagement and what you bring it in. And he does really fucking good job. Exactly. That is awesome.

Well, you two have a bright future together. But so what's go like, let's talk about this. What's the arrangement? Are you guys like? Do you live together? Are you living separately? Do you have film days? What's the business structure look like here?

He lives down the street. He moved. He's doing Chicago stuff. Okay. Cool. You know, we do a lot of videos together. We work together. So, like, how many hours a week are you working on stuff like this?

Not, dude, we're just being ourselves, man. Yeah. Honestly, like, I have a notes app where, like, I'll, like, come up with the idea. Come up with the idea. Like, and, like, I'll just write down shit. He'll be sending me shit all the time, too. Yeah. About, like, ideas.

And then we spitball, dude. Yeah, we kind of just like spitball. But, like, we do have, like, we just have so much fun with it. I think that both of us are creative in our own sense. And, like, we just, I don't know, I don't want to, because, I mean, Key and Peel are, I think, are both our inspirations and in life with, like, doing shit and we're obviously nowhere near them at all. But that's more we want. But like, but like doing shit like that, like, it's like kind of like, well, at least we try to model after. Okay. Got it. Yeah. And we've had such a broad, you know, humor from like, we can tap into so many different spectrums. Yeah. And I think that's, like, really important. I feel like we're relatable to so. many groups of people.

Yeah. And, like, that's the best part about it. And obviously, you know, comedy is kind of, it's hard to do in these day and age. So hard. And I feel like one of the things is, is like, obviously, we're going to be smart about it, but we kind of want to bring it back to how comedy usually was. You know what I mean? I think those are, there were some, like Vince Vaughn.

We love Vince Vaughn. Yeah. Oh, my God, too. Oh, my God. Like, guys like that, man, like Will Ferrell and you got, you got, like, Ben Stillerler, like those little stupid movies that they made were. so good. So good. I just went back

and watched old school. It's the best. And I cracked up. I couldn't believe this movie. So you're going to bring us back to wedding crashes in old school. Yes. Well,

I'm going to be watching everything you do. Yeah, that's something we want to do. Well, speaking of wedding crashers, that's another air. I mean, a lot of comedy, there's a lot to talk about. I think there's something new you guys might be able to dabble into.

Maybe you can confirm or deny, but both you two have been in the news lately. So comedy, in dating. I think that might be a new niche for you guys. Maybe we'll start with you, Andrew. Are you single? I am single, yes.

You're single, but you were in a relationship. I was, I was in an eight-month relationship. Eight-month relationship. When did that end? We were very, very private. Well, we, like, threw off sense. We didn't follow each other. We just, until we, like, knew.

Yeah, it was just, it was different. It was different. You know, I'm trying to try different things of how to navigate this public relationships. Because everyone you date now, everyone's going to have an opinion on it. And it's hard to see that, man. And obviously your partner as well, you want to protect them and they want to protect you. So I just like, I think a lot of it was, it was a lot. Do you think it was some of the public pressure that led to 1,000%?

Wait, really? Yeah. Even without following each other. Yeah, I think it just puts a lot of doubt in your head. And I feel like once you get that doubt, if you're doubting someone, Like, it's never going to work. Yeah. Like, I want to be, if I'm going to be with someone, I wanted to be super sure about it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I love that person so much. But at the same time, it's like, you know, there is instances where I was in my best self. Yeah. Because I was just like, what am I, what's going, what's going on? What am I thinking? And what are people saying? And I think, I took a toll on our relationship with it.

Were you, so you got, you publicly came out, though, right? Yeah. So tell me a little bit, just so I can understand the noise that impacted you. So, well, this was my, like, publicly. Okay. I had like a thing with someone before, but it was never like, I never posted them or whatever. Yeah. So this was like the first one.

I was like, I'm ready for this. I'm ready for do it. And it was such a very unconventional way how I did it. Okay. You know, we met and I was just, I don't know what it was. I was just like this person. It was in love. Yeah.

It was instant. And like, I will go to the, I will always go with my heart. and if my heart loves it, I'm sorry, like, I can, my head was like, this is probably a terrible idea. Yeah. And my heart was like, nah, man, like, there's something, there's so much love with this person that you, like, this is good, like, run with it. And I did, you know, it was a, there was a, there was a little bit of a bachelor age gap.

Yeah. Like, everyone know how it goes. They were younger than me. Okay. Yeah. And that noise kind of, that noise is. It's a title way, but that noise is, I always say, like, the idea, I know public relationships, you know, I've been in them and you've been in them.

And the idea of like going public with a relationship now is so terrifying because if that foundation is not ironclad, toxicity from the outside will come in, will infiltrate it and can ruin it. And I think that played a big part in my situation too. So I understand that. It was tough. A couple things with a new book coming out, I want to ask you. And then Greg Pivot to you is just talk mind to me.

It's obviously about managing. money with relationships and stuff. Did that ever come into play in your previous relationship? See, I think that was, we were so good at that. They make more money than me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A lot more. Yeah. And I was just like, we never, you know, paying. It was never a thing. We both grew up. It's very similar where we weren't like the richest. Yeah. So we never like needed extravagant gifts or anything like that. Yeah. We just enjoyed our time together. That was, that was it. And obviously we, they lived in New York. I lived in Chicago. Yeah. So I had to fly. Yeah, that's a lot.

That was a lot. But it was worth it. I felt like that was, that's something I would do 100 times over with my partner any day of the week. But yeah, no. So, I mean, last question I got for you. Professionally, do you feel like now personally the breakup's over, you know, you've moved on or you've moved on, do you feel like professionally you're more productive now or you're in a better place? Like, do you see the connection to personal and professional success or no? No, I, I, we still, we still talk. Okay. Not like dating, but like, they're like a good, we, we, we just, like, we were such, we were, we were a couple that facetimed and talked all day. So it's, we're on that, we're on that period where we're just kind of like tailing off. Um, but, and like, I feel like nothing's changed. Like, my life doesn't derail. Yeah, okay. Off of, you know, you know, relationship. Like, you kind of separate. Yeah. I mean, and you know, like, when we're out, like, or wherever we are, I will never make it about me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's never about me.

I'm always about the group and... Yeah, the energy. The energy. I'm the energy guy. You are the energy guy. You are the energy guy. You know, obviously those days do get tiring. Sure, sure.

But I feel like that's what I've been put on Earth to be. And I enjoy that. So I just like, I don't make it about me, man. Yeah. It's good stuff. Yeah. All right. Well, your friend over is picking his nails.

He's not. You can, you know, we don't have to get into this, but I got to at least ask. We know that you guys did not follow each other. you and Victoria did follow each other but now I saw that you don't Wow that was great segue Was that a good transition there? That was great

I had to think about that one Yeah what's going on Are these rumors true? Yeah I mean like you know Being in a public relationship And if things aren't working out It sucks even more It's hard

Really hard So yeah I mean yeah it's sad To be honest with you It's like really sad And like you know I just want to respect her during this time and you know not going to detail on anything but of course yeah like we we've definitely ended things yeah man i don't have anything bad to say yeah she's she's amazing and i know that she's going to continue to do amazing things yeah yeah yeah just to connect it and if

you don't want to discuss this and i'll just pass but i want to connect to and yeah situation and even what i said do you think obviously when you started the relationship there was like that whole right with paradise and the Johnny guy and all this stuff and then the public space it's hard It's like really hard. Do you think that played into anything or no? I think what Andrew and I are connecting to with like public noise impacting our relationship. I feel like that makes it stronger in a way.

Yeah, you know what? Oh my gosh. I mean, at the end of... Can you write us a textbook on that, please? At the end of... I watched it. I was like, oh, my God. Show me your playbooking more.

I think that the woman in the franchise get attacked. Yeah. Yeah. Especially, yeah, like... Totally. Especially just like a select few of. them like no matter what they do yeah um and like granted i think that it goes for a lot of the people

but especially i think like you know her she can anything she does get scrutinized i feel like um and i she has a really good heart um and um yeah it sucks uh because you know seeing somebody go through that type of shit especially somebody that you're with and in a romantic relationship with It's really tough. It's hard to watch. It's really hard to watch. And I hated that part of it all, but it definitely grew us really close. And we were definitely able to go through a really hard time really early.

Yeah. So that's interesting that actually like served as a way to bond. Yeah, in a way, yeah. To like break it up. Definitely. Well, we'll end it there. Sorry to, first of all, sorry that both you guys went through a break. Breakups are never easy.

No, it's not. No one ever wins in a breakup. No. It's sad. it hopefully creates an opportunity to grow and move on to, you know, whatever the future might look like. So the future right now looks like you guys are in Chicago. And what was it like when you think about your life, what does it look like next?

I'm on this, you know, this stage of my life right now, I'm really happy about and excited for. It's just like, it just feels really fresh, you know, for so long, I've always felt a lot of guilt. trying to moving to New York right after I'm sorry to bring this up again but like my dad passing I think is just such an impact

in my life but like after my dad passed I left and like went to New York and like just thinking about like my mom at home by because I grew up I was the youngest four home was filled with love

laughter all the time noise games playing and like thinking about her in an empty house just absolutely killed me so like I never even actually got to experience New York when I was here, I would drive home, I mean, five times a week probably or once every like five days, I mean, and like stay through the weekend. And yeah, I mean,

having my own place has been tough because I wanted to be in Chicago and then like I felt bad. But you know what? We've we've gotten to like a new stage of acceptance of like the grief. I think like grief, everyone handles it differently. And like I've just always been a person that like my family always comes first. And like I just always want. wanted to look out for my mom. But I mean, yeah, I mean, now I have a part-time place in Chicago until September. I'm also about to sign a lease in Williamsburg right now come June. And then I just applied the other day.

So I'm really excited about it. I mean, I'm really happy about it. Like, I was telling him, I was like, damn, this is like the lightest I felt. Yeah, I don't know how long. You could feel it. I can feel it, man. Yeah, that's, I mean, and I think like the benefits from feeling lighter. And even though it's so hard to say goodbye and close it.

chapter that was so meaningful to you, the benefits of, like, grieving it properly and then being able to see that new chapter, I think it helps ever. Like, you're mentally, you're physical, everything about it, your spirits, your outlook, your future and business, all the things. So I'm excited for what's to come for you. I appreciate that, man. One question I got to ask you guys, both being single from the Bachelor franchise, like, do you ever see a business move into reality TV again? Do you see going on dating shows? Is that a possibility? I'm at the point in my life where I could do anyone. He's like, fuck it.

Only fans? Yeah. No. I mean, Tyler Cameron did it. No, no, no, no, no, I could do that. My mom would crush me. Yeah, no way. I was just kidding.

Wait, was that real? Did he really do one? Yeah, he did it, but he linked it to his, his, his new TV show. Okay, well, yeah, that's fucking smarty shit. My brother's a, that's a genius idea. My brother owns his own marketing company, and he said yesterday, he's like, absolutely genius. Genius. I can imagine how many clicks that guy.

Good for him. For sure. Good for hands. How about you? Possibility. So Andrew's in. Paradise, anything, you're at. Yeah, I just got a dog, man.

Like, I'm at the point where I'm just saying. Oh, yeah. Thank God you created an Instagram for that dog. That's a lot. Farmer's dog, Ferbo, all the brands. Give them a call. I'm just like moving forward with life and doing things and experiencing things. Like, I miss my dog so much right now.

I'm like, yeah, it's just as fun. Yeah. I can't wait to go home to my dog. Yeah. And just just kind of growing, you know, putting yourself in situations where you're going to elevate yourself. Yeah. And I think that's where I'm in right now.

Okay, I like it. Whatever happens, I just need to do it. Yeah, I like, I can't, like, sit here and dwell and think about what would happen. You know what I mean? Doesn't be no good. This sat, like, once I kind of got through my breakup, like, the first thing I said is, like, I'm done overthinking things. Yes, don't over thinking.

I'm done. Just go do it. Good, bad. You're going to make mistakes. Stop worrying about things that you can't control and just live. You know what I'm saying? Listen, as a result, like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, Sometimes I get a little bit more negative feedback, like noise and stuff, like comments than I used to.

But like, I don't care. Yeah, it's good. I'm being myself. And if you don't like it, it's what it is. I'm trying my best out here. Exactly. How about you? Any reality TV?

Reality TV. I mean, would you be down? Yeah. What kind of reality? Like, date. The influencer reality show, they like followed you like one of the, like, I think that's something that they're doing. What's that? They're doing like an influencer reality shows like that.

They just like follows. I think they should do like shark thing. but instead of Shark Tank, it's like dollars, but it's also your like, it's influencers that are like buying, but also giving posts. That would be funny. It's like,

suppose someone comes here and we're like, okay, I'll give you four posts and three stories in a podcast interview, and you're like, well, I'll give them four skits. The comedy will get it going on.

Like, I think it'd be cool if you did like something like that. That would be sick. But I also, I'm going to put this out here. I don't know if anyone's put this out, but I might be the first to do it. I think a bachelor season.

Two is the bachelor season. Could you imagine? That would be... Could you imagine? The filming cuts would be too long. In the past... Because there would be something where I'll look over and laugh and I feel like we won't be able to stop.

We would have to stop filming because there's no way... In the past when that was getting rumored for like a little bit after Gabby and... I'm bringing that rumor after Gabby and Rachel. We were cracking up about it because we were like, imagine if like one of us like really like someone. Hey man, can we make a trade? But how good TV would that be? You're like, you're like, I listen. You get the king's size bet. I'll get the queen. But I get Emily on my shirt.

Unbelievable. I think it's there. I think she's the one for me. I think they got to listen. I mean, it'd be terrible though if I ended up with like 20 girls and he gets like 10. That's true. There we go. See this right here is proving my point. Exactly why we need this. All right, let me ask you this. A couple rapid fire questions. and we'll get your trading secrets. So first rapid fire question is going to be one to three words you could pick. When I say your relationship with money, what are one to three words you think about? We'll start with you, Greg. One to three words with money. I say money you think. Can't take it with you.

That's a lot of words. I need like words. Okay. Frugal. Okay. That's good. That's a really good one. Not that important. Okay. Like, lack of importance. All right. One thing you spend too much money on, but you know you overspend it on. Travel. Like actually, like the flights or just the whole thing. I mean, all travel. All of travel, yeah. I mean, food, too.

I was going to say that. Dinner's this fucking dude. Bro, bro, dude thinks he's fucking Gordon Ramsey when he goes to restaurants. I go, yeah, we're going to try that too. You know, you know, let's get the chef, let's get the chef selection for $600. He does. And I'm like, bro, I'm like, dog, this is why I don't like going to dinner. I honestly, I hate going to dinner with that.

Because he just orders like an animal. He just orders and we split the check and I'm like, bro. And he don't, do you eat it all? He doesn't eat it. See that. See, I'm going to order it off. But eat it. That's my thing.

If it's in front of me, I'm going to eat. So I'm going to eat all this weight. And then I'm watching him. Dude's just like, damn, bro, you really ate all that. What the fuck? You made more. I'm paying for this. I'm talking about frugal.

Bro, bro, just sat here and said frugal. While he ordered six T-bone steaks, it only had a corner of one bite of it. Yeah, that's probably a bad word for me. Unbelievable. This dude's the worst. Andrew, what about you? What's one thing you overspend on, but you know you overspend on it? Oh, it's safe food.

Okay, same time. I think, you know, here's a thing. Everyone wants to do the cooking thing. Here might be clothes, man. You shop a lot. I do shop a lot. Yeah, that's dumb. You know why that's dumb?

Because you could just get free stuff. Like you have... Yeah, but I like I have an acquired style. I think to be a 90s dad. I don't know why. You pull it off. He rocks it. No, he does rock.

He has his Dion Sanders fit on today. So when you get dressed in the morning, you think like 90s dead. I think 90s dead. I think I think from someone from Full House or Fresh Prince. That's literally what. Okay. All right. All right.

If I give you 50,000 bucks right now, you got to spend every penny in 24 hours. No, by tomorrow morning, it's got to be spent. What are you spending it on? What am I spending it on? 50K. It's right here. 50K. You got to spend it.

I think I'm just going to invest it in Coinbase. Wow. Let's go. All right. That's a great answer. I was going to say take all my friends and family to a trip. Well, that's great. I think that's great.

All right, those are two really good ones. And five years from now, what's your dream income? Like, you want to make this much and you think it's attainable five years from out. Or within five years, you hit this point, what would be that income point? You know what? If I had, like, if I'm capable of doing what in my mind, hopefully I can do. Yeah. Hopefully a million.

I love it. Yeah, absolutely. It's happening. Honestly, I'm not really big on money. I love it. I just want to be, I want to have enough to take care of my family and be comfortable with that. Okay.

And obviously, comfortable is a terrible word to use. Well, I was going to say maybe the one word, money means comfort to you, which I think is great. Yeah, it does. I think that's not having it growing up to now, like, having it. Yeah. It's like, it's great to have it. But at the same time, like, I know, I'm so responsible about it.

Yeah. So I like, I'm like, I'm like, well, I ain't spending on that. You know what I mean? Kind of thing. Yeah. I think, like, one word for me is freedom. Like, money gives me freedom. Yeah.

That's why I like if I have more, then I could do what I want. But it also like scares me. So it's like freedom, but I'm like, oh, my God. I caged a little bit because I'm like, I don't want to go back to where I was before. Exactly, exactly. So like it kind of. Yep, I got that. All right, two more for you.

What is like one financial mistake? If you look at all your spending or earnings or like a big mistake you made financially, it could be investing or you spent something that didn't make sense. It was dumb. You're just like, that was stupid. A financial mishap you've made in your life. Greg, we'll start with you. Oh man

I brought No I can't Yeah I gotta know what it is Just say gifts bro Yeah You bought a gift Yeah it would be

I don't give us anymore You said gift But how much was the gift Huh How much was this gift You're referring to That motherfucker Be bowling

Frugal my ass I mean I mean hell Me and Victoria Did our first date together in Rome I mean Your first date

I mean that was like When we first Like we're like you know what? Let's try this out. Let's go get a drink. Wait, Rome, like Italy. Yeah, we can do it. We couldn't do it in the States, bro. He really does that. He really does that. He really does that whole mark shit. He doesn't have any of shit. Dude, you really do need a lifetime movie.

Yes, I'm telling you. We got what in the works. Don't worry. We got him kind of love that. Let me ask you this. How much do you spend on that trip? 10 grand, 20 grand? What do you spend on that? It was around 12. The 20 grand appearance goes right to Italy. It was around 12. 12. 12. 12. I love it. I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, The villa and Capri was top-notch. Whoever is out there that dates Craig next, you are in for a tree.

You are living life. I don't know. The Villa and Capri. Date one. Date with me and the villa Capri. Andrew, how about you? You got to have one. What?

One financial mishap. Buying tables. Oh, that's the dumbest thing. I hate it. It's the biggest waste of money. Obviously, it's good with friends and you want to have a good time. Then you look at it afterwards. It's the dumbest thing.

I hate it. It's so dumb. I hate it so much. And the way they upcharge those bottles. Oh, come on. I can go and get that bottle. It's a joke. 20 bucks down the road.

They charge $2,500. It's ridiculous. So I hate that. I hate that purchase. All right. This is one, most of my listeners, we call them the Money Mafia. It's mostly business related,

but this one I got to bring in because I know they're going to want me to ask. I'll phrase in a lot of ways to give you options, so I'm not putting you in the hot seat. But would you date someone in Bachelor Nation? If so, anyone that you've had your eye on.

Anyone that you might have a little crush on. Anyone you might just want to have a cup of coffee with, not a serious date. No, I don't really have one that comes to mine. Okay. No, I know, I was so much. I don't, I don't, I don't. Wait, seriously, not one?

I honestly, no, I haven't met any bachelor women once a little year party. Yeah. I haven't seen any. So I don't want to base anyone, no. Oh, yeah, you never like, have you ever gone out of a date with someone from the Bachelor franchise? Well, yeah, but they were, we dated on Paradise for a little bit.

Oh, but we went on a date. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And other than that, like, other than that, not. Dude, never. Interesting. Do any bachelor's? And I'd rather, I rather, I've changed it up. I'm not meeting people online anymore.

Okay. Like, I want to, no DMs. I want to meet someone organically. I want to meet them in person. I'm on dating apps, but like, I don't want to meet them that way. Okay. You know what I mean?

Yeah. It's like a safety blanket. You know there's a new dating app. It's called, I think it's called score. I should get advertised from dollar a month for this, but it's they literally, it's based on credit score.

Like if you have over 675 credit score or something like that, there's different tiers and that's how you match with people based on credit score. No shit. Where to got? What? Just came out. All right. How about you?

Same question. What? Any bachelor people? Yeah. Like you're like, dude, I'm not going either. No,

I mean, And I, yeah, just, just getting out of this. I mean, this was heavy for the both of us. You're not thinking about that. I'm not, I'm really not there. You're in repair mode. Yeah, I really am in repair mode. And it's been emotionally unavailable.

Yeah. I think that's where I'm at. Yeah. Oh, that's where you're at too. Yeah. I just feel like. But you should say you're not dating apps. Well, yeah, you have it.

It's like, it's like a back pocket thing. You know what I mean? Sometimes like, sometimes like, sometimes dating apps is literally like a. It's more of a conversation. It's like, it's a confidence booster as well. It's like, oh, this person thinks a, Like, I'm a track. Like, you're not really doing anything on them.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? You're not meeting. I don't think I've met anyone from the dating apps. Yeah, I got you. So it's like, all right, all right. So both. It doesn't really work.

Yeah. It's just like something you have in your back pocket. Like, I hope to meet someone organically. Yeah. If that happens. Okay. I like it. I like it.

Well, both, emotionally unavailable. I wish you both the best through your process and journeys. If you ever need someone to call, give me a call. We'll talk. Absolutely, man. All right. So I also got to do this. I was going to do this at the top of the episode,

but I got to do it at the end of the episode. I'm going to tell a nice, funny little story here, okay? So privately, I have said my apologies to Greg. Oh, yeah. Now it's time to publicly say my apologies to Greg. Here's a funny story. So when you were on Katie's season, right, I was, I don't like doing this. I don't like when people do it.

I got caught up in the whole thing. Yeah. X was the host and, you know, a team Katie, whatever. And I was, I was talking shit. I was talking shit. I shouldn't. I talk shit about him all the time. But you shouldn't.

You should. And what I said to you is like you should, you absolutely should never do that about someone, especially when you've been on the show, because you know that the edit is so left up to uncertainty. And everything that happened to you wasn't even, it wasn't edit based. It was all just like,

I really don't even know how to summarize it. It was like, I think you were, you were pulling strings to somehow take a side because you felt like I'd take a side. Yeah. even, there was no basis for the strength. There was no side. And I was weird.

I was just like, okay, this is where we're going with this. I'm going to stay on this. And so, but this is kind of a funny story. So I did, I was a, I was a dickhead and I take an ownership of that and it'll never happen again. But three years later, Caitlin and I go to

unbelievable. You can't make this. And I think, I don't want to get into. I think Victoria and Caitlin might have had a little something. I don't know. Maybe they didn't. Maybe they did. but Kaylin and I go to the sushi joint in Nashville and the server sits us at the bar and so we sit down and look to the left

and I looked at my right and she didn't know like the whole bachelor thing Greg is right next to me Victoria right next to him so you got Victoria, Greg, me and Caitlin by the way no one else is at the bar yeah it was insane empty empty spot like you have no choice to be like what's up

And we said hello, and you are so kind. I appreciate it. And I got home. And I just was like, I'm such a fucking idiot. Like, I've heard that you're such a great guy. You were such a great guy. You could have easily been a dick when I was a dick. And publicly, again, I want to say, I'm sorry.

Dude, I appreciate it, man. No, seriously. I would never have done it knowing what I've known now. I'm sorry for that. Honestly, man, water under the bridge. But as soon as you reached out, I was like, damn, this guy is a real one for reaching out. So I appreciate it, man. Awesome.

Thank you, man. Water under the bridge. I'm here saying it. These two guys are fucking awesome guys through and through on the camera and off. We've got to wrap with a trading secret. So one thing that you could give our listeners a tip, a trick, some type of piece of advice. You've only gotten from the experience that you've had. It could be a life lesson, a money lesson, a career lesson, but a trading secret that they can't get in like a TikTok tutorial or a YouTube channel or anything like that.

So who wants to go first? I say it all the time. I always tell him. I was like, never panic. Yeah. I just never panic. Like, you know, shit's going to hit the fan, you know, just stay cool, calm, and collected. I think, you know, a lot of bad things happen in everyone's lives.

Yeah. And I think the moment you start like, is when it starts getting worse. So I think, you know, shit happens and just stay calm. Cool. Let me ask you this, though, follow up. For those that say, easier said than done, because they do panic, do you have like a tip that you use, that if you feel like you're going to panic, like, you don't? Like, do you have anything to, like, help people that kind of do panic a lot or something you do?

That's going to be tough for him to answer. I just want to jump in because this man, this guy right here. No, I'm not joking you. This is why this guy is like my best friend. Seriously. Honestly, yeah. Seriously. Seriously.

Like everyone always wonders like why we're always together. This guy, like he is one of the most incredible people I've ever met. But in terms of like that shit, he is just, he doesn't panic. And I think like, I don't know if it's how he grew up. I don't know if like it's what he's seen in. life or like how he was raised but like he just he's he's just able to hold himself and just like understand that you know what no matter in life everything's going to be okay at the end of the day it's like perspective almost yeah it's a lot of perspective yeah yeah i could use more of that

because i'm panicking over here yeah i try to keep calm but like internally i panic a lot yeah you know what i'm saying like on the surface you might not trust me i'm like that and then yeah i'm also panicking skywalking Always this guy is like, what if this isn't? I'm like, bro. Oh, I do the same thing. And obviously, you have your little worries. Yeah, yeah, everyone has a little worries.

It's, you know, you're human. You have little worries. But I feel like, don't make a bad situation worse. I like that. That's a great trading secret. And one I can even take some away from. That's great. Don't make a bad situation worse.

That's great. All right. What can you give us, Greg? You know what? I think maybe my trading secret would kind of maybe tie in with like the show a little bit. You know, I always thought after it, especially, I always had to be, like, really buttoned up and, like...

No, seriously. Ugh, fucking hated that. Oh, that time and era of my life? That's the worst. Where I was, like, trying to be something. I was just worried about whatever was insane. And then one person says something, you freak out. Now they, I'm like, okay, let them worry about them.

Yeah, that shit sucked. And, like, you know, every... I think everyone has their own perspective on all of us and, like, and understanding and these images we portray. I guess. But like, I think one thing for me is just like, I like, I like that I could be fucking weird sometimes. And like for me, I just like kind of, I'm just like, you know, you just got to, I embrace my weirdness. Yeah. I think like you just got to embrace your individuality. And then I think good things will come to your life when you're authentically yourself. A hundred percent. And I feel like the more you're yourself, the more vulnerable you are. And like, the more of the people that are always going to talk shit are always going to talk shit. And then the people that are like want to get connected or even more. Those are the right. Coming up being like, like, Like, you guys put a smile on my face. No, exactly. I needed it, right?

Because you've tapped into that side of yourself. And yeah, I don't think people talk, like, especially from the show, there is obviously a ton of upside. And we are very, very, I feel like, like, privileged and even lucky to, like, get some of the upsides, get some of the numbers we talked about. But there's also a lot of mental mayhem that comes after the show. And I think we've talked about it. And it creates, it requires you to grow at such a speed.

Because if you don't, you'll get blown away. You know what I'm saying? Like, you either grow or you're just going to be fucked. Yeah. So I think it's also, it's nice that we have the opportunity to grow and have to trade secrets like that. You know what I mean? It's that experience, man. It never stops.

It just keeps going. It keeps going. The bachelor experience is just, you're getting new levels to it every single day. Exactly. And you guys are just starting. So thank you so much for being on trading secrets. You guys crushed it. All right.

Tell people where they can find all your Instagram handles, TikTok, everything you got. At Andrew Z. Spencer on everything, Twitter, TikTok. and X, sorry. Two million names, Zachariah? Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for putting my government name on Twitter. Okay.

Social security. Come back. Bank account, what do you got? You're about to get everything out of me now. Personal financial statement, bring it up. Yeah, and, you know, also a side of hash brown. Yeah, there you go. Plug him.

As well. I think I've found. I miss him so much. But, yeah, that's about it. Okay, great. Actually, we're having a YouTube channel coming out. Oh, nice. Yeah, yeah.

What's the name of it going to be? We even thought about it. This dude said Grandrew, and I was like, dude, get the fuck out. So that was the end of the conversation. Yeah. It's like your couple name. That's what I said. Bro, we get to.

Well, Grandrew. Definitely go and follow Andrew, and then you'll have the YouTube link up that you guys can connect with. Greg, where can people find you? Just Greg, Gripew. You know what my, I hate the most? When people spell my name with two G's, like, like, it's egg, first off, I hate my fucking name. Greg sucks. Why don't you change it?

I've changed my first name. Do you know how many people have come out of this show and they have fake names? I didn't know. Insane. All of them have fake names. Who's that fake name? Francesca Fargo has a fake name.

What's your real name? I don't even know. Dude, in the recap, I don't even know. In the recap, I will tell, I will go through the list in the recap and give you every fake name that someone on this podcast had had. It's so long to laundry. I like Gregory. I like Gregory.

Let's go to Greg. Maybe this will be like a new chapter. Anyway, my, my, my instance. scream is Greg Ripo. And then my TikTok is Greg J. Gripo. Anyway, like, all right,

Jason. Don't need to erase my identity. You sick fuck. All right. Greg and you guys, go give him a follow. I just followed your dog, by the way.

So put more content on. That's a big follow. That's a big follow. There's only one post. Get it going. Yeah. Come on. Come on.

It's just me. Milk it out, bro. It's only hander. Like, where's your dog? You narcissist? Yeah. Yeah. All right.

Thank you guys. Thank you guys. This was fun. This was such a pleasure. And I don't know. It's got a drink or something. Ding, ding, ding. We are closing in the bell with the one and only, the curious Canadian,

on what was a electric episode with two Bachelor nation legends. Greg and Andrew Spencer. David Ardoin, what are we thinking, my man? I mean, that was fun. Like, that is what I want out of a Monday episode, Trading Secrets to start my week off right. it was just fun like everyone talks about a podcast wanted to be like listening

on a conversation that they have with other people and like that was it that was it right there I was laughing I was smiling and I got and I learned something about the two guests

which I think is always the goal as the host so you said electric I say fun that's exactly what I think of when I think of those two guys so I'm glad that their personalities truly came out maybe it was some of the

you know maybe some of the feelings from the big party the night before just kind of parlayed into the podcast, but Jay, I thought that was an awesome, awesome fun episode. Yeah, I'm so glad you had fun listening to it. We had so much fun at the party. You were so deeply missed. But I think when you see these two guys and what they have going on, I said it in the podcast,

but I think this is just the start. And I know, David, one thing we talked about was like the joking of the fake names. Like, I have bring it up in the recap. You and I just went over the list of people we've had on. let's just name a few of them you got maclimore was one of them we know jacks taylor francesca fargo anyone else that you came up with i mean you think of like carrot top you think of like oh yeah chicken you think of like brianna chicken fry you think of like corporate natalie like not some of these aren't using their other names but they're throwing it in there where they still have

that sense of privacy to use their you know their last name on their own because i could tell you what corporate Natalie's last name is. But even your rich BFF, branded by your rich BFF, right? Exactly. Car mom, Bachelor data. A lot of these things are so important. You got to think, I mean, these two guys are hilarious. You got to think if Greg doesn't like his name,

especially when you spell it Greg with like egg to end it with two Gs, you got to think they got some creative juices flowing and maybe throw a skit, a naming skit on there to kind of re-identify his identity. because those guys are hilarious. So I think Greg suits him, though. I feel like every question I asked whether it was like, you know, Andrew, what do you make first? Greg, what do you make?

Or literally anything in between, they just turned it into a skit. Like this was a comedy show, I feel like. Everything was just a skit. Like I'm like, did you guys write all this before? Was this plan? Well, what I think was so good about it was how they talked about wanting to bring back old school comedy.

And the kind of way they told the line with some of their, jokes but at the end of the day laugh at themselves like they know their jokes like i think you know we're in such a cancel culture age where like people who don't identify and laugh at themselves are the people who risk at at being canceled and these guys are just in it i mean they make fun of themselves more than more than they do anything else at their own expense and one thing that i'll say too is it was really cool to see all three of you guys resonate with the year after coming off the show and how like different you were to your core selves how different you were to your core selves how different you answered questions, how different that you perceive people's opinions and

reaction, maybe how different you dressed or acted. And now, like you guys are all coming into your own, your quote unquote, 15 minutes of fame are well past you. You guys are all making money year over year more than the next year, all by finding your true authentic self. I thought that was one of the coolest takeaways as you guys kind of came to that conclusion mid-episode. Yeah, I knew you were going to like that. I knew you were going to like that because I know that you've seen that from me. You've seen like terrified Jason off. the show like how do you handle this to like slowly slowly coming into my own and just being so comfortable with who I am and whatever someone says they say and it is what it is like I don't you

know I'm going to just try and be the best me and learn and grow and I thought that you would find that interesting because now you have three people with all different you know all different experiences all different journeys all different even edits on the show but all kind of saying the same thing one thing I got for you David is like through their journey what was like what was the most interesting thing to you in this episode? Obviously, there's a lot here, right? You have two people that had certain careers before the show. They went all in into their careers now.

You know, their personal journeys with two breakups and like refueling and recharging to go to that next chapter. So I don't know. What was like of everything you heard? I know you had fun. What do you think it was like your biggest takeaway, the biggest eye opener for you? I just think that like all three of you guys and I'm sure a lot of people out there can look at where they are now and you can either attribute a lot of it to luck or you can attribute

a lot of it to taking advantage of opportunities. And I think like, you know, Andrew's playing football in Europe, making 2K a month, like wondering what he's going to do next. Like, Greg is doing life, whole life insurance sales and had been, you know, asked to come on the show a couple times and finally found his moment. Like everyone is where they are in life because they took advantage of some opportunity. A lot of people could maybe be at different places if an opportunity that they thought was luck and didn't take it seriously they passed on it but i just think like these guys before the show took advantage opportunity and after the show so we're not talking about leads we're not talking about you know guys who came final two like gregg you know had had a

really bad public image after the show because for whatever reason he got tied into wanting to be an actor and da da da da da but they've really both like taking advantage of opportunities after the show as well um So I thought that their real life, you know, experiences and stories of where they were in kind of this place of unhappiness to make a choice and say, this is an opportunity. I'm going to pursue rather than just be like, ah, that'll never become anything. That for me was like always will be the coolest thing of seeing people take the leap of faith. Because at the end of the day, we're all listening to people on your podcast and they all got there somehow.

And if you're listening at home saying, how do I get in that seat? how do I get people asking me things? Sometimes it's just about taking these things that seem so far fetched that they end up becoming a reality. Yeah, 100%. And even, yeah, I think you even just said with Greg, like, he obviously went through trials and tribulations after the show, but also had like that super engaged following like they call, I think the girls call themselves the grippo girls.

The girls that are like obsessed. Yeah, like he has, he, the people that love Greg, like, oh my God, they love him. And I said it on the show, he is such a sweetheart. Like, he's such a, he's really, really such. and both of them are such nice, kind humans, like in the purest, purest form. And so I enjoyed my time with them. And I also, I love their trading secrets. I thought they were pretty good.

Yes. Yeah, they were great. And I will say that, too, like back to, like, them both being kind humans. Like, you can, their background and their upbringing and their wholesomeness shined through in this episode. Like, as funny as it was, like, you know, a lot of Andrews, you know, not having the means growing up and, like, not like his trading secret, like you said, I, with thought it was incredible like just don't panic yeah like just don't don't panic was so was so amazing

and then you know gregg like obviously with his with his dad's health issues and he was ubering he was you know doing these tons of these little side jobs to get to where he is you you know that that sticks with them and who they are and how they approach their their current state in life but yeah i mean the never panic one like you must have been panicking hearing a trading secret calling saying never panic and i think your first question after was like so how do you do that? Tell me more, Andrew. Yeah.

As I have had a couple panics in the last month or so, but we won't dive into those. But yeah, exactly. I thought great trading secrets. Two guys have come so far. The one thing I want to ask you about before we wrap, David,

is what did you think, like when they talked about their earnings in social media, were you surprised, was that on point with what you thought? What did you expect? Yeah, first off, I thought it was so perfect

because here are two friends, admittedly, like, moved to the same city. They're basically like business partners. Like, they don't have necessarily, hey, come to this ad with me. I'll give you a 10%. It's like, no, I need someone to do this ad. I'll just do it. Good for you on getting the ad.

And I think they were both surprised to hear the difference in earnings from 200K to 400K, which is what trading secrets is all about. It's financial transparency. And I guarantee you that Andrew will be better off for his rates from this podcast, just having that in the back of his mind. And maybe now talking to Greg about different deals that he's gone to, done to amass that 400K. I thought it was right on par, to be honest.

These guys are all over my Instagram and my TikTok, and then they're hilarious. So I actually wouldn't be surprised if it was more. But I think right on par, and it was nice for you to talk about their five-year goals, their incomes. You know, Greg, a million dollars. Andrew, like, he just wants that comfort word that you guys talked about. So I thought it was right on par. Like, I just think it's so impressive when you get past that, like, six months of the show, just the fall off from the people who are gone.

into reality TV irrelevancy and the people who are still here three or four years later and you know from being in the business those people are just upticks and upticks and upticks something really special about those people exactly exactly there's no doubt about it and these two I think this is just the start of those earnings I think those earnings are going to be up big time you know there are oftentimes we say we want to have guests back on the show these are two people that in a year or two, we have to have them back on because I want to see how they adjust. And I agree with you. This is why we talk about money, right? So you can understand these numbers, take the numbers, and then fine tune everything you're doing to increase them to make it make

sense. So I think it was a great episode. It was a fun episode. We talked about personal. We talked about professional. And of course, we talked financial. And I think it was an interview like no other with Andrew and Greg. And they have big things ahead. One thing I'll tell you guys, make sure to give us five stars in the reviews and let us know who else you want on the podcast because we have had some really cool requests lately Boston Rob was a big one but there's a long list that people want to hear from remember we have that second episode now every week called more than money we're going to see how it goes so far it's trending really really well but the premise of that show is we're talking all things life dating health mental mental health

therapy life updates it's just more than money david before i wrap you got anything else yeah i know these guys will be back on because i could i could sense the bromance brewing in the room between the three of you during that episode and the only thing that i'm going to sign off with is is asking you a question now the book tour's wrapped and the after party has been done take me just give me a trading secret your favorite memory as you sat in that party in new york city reflecting on the people there favorite memory from your party and then you can sign off. Okay. I think my favorite memory was the speech. Everyone was kind of like pressed me to do a speech and I didn't prepare one. And David, as you know, I'm usually Mr.

prepared with that kind of stuff. Like I'll know what I'm going to say in rehearsed 10 times. And I had no idea what I was going to say. And Evan, I was like, dude, like what direction you think I should go? He goes, dude, just get that mic and speak from the heart. Just do it. Just go get it and speak from the heart. And so I got that mic and I just spoke from the heart. And actually it reminded to be, David, of a bit of it kind of connected to a speech that you gave on your bachelor party. But the idea of the whole speech that I was just like looking around, I'm like, you know what, cool, I have a second book and it went really well. And now we know, David, we'll do a whole numbers episode in the book. The sales are about 2x of the restart roadmap. So it's great. And we're

getting great press and everything else. But like, none of that stuff matters. Like, that's cool. It's fun. I'm glad I did it. It's an impactful thing. But what matters is, you know, the people that you have around you that can support you to get there, that can celebrate with you at your highest highs and that could be there for you at your lowest lows. And I used a word that you talk about all the time, but like life's work. And, you know, I say like, that is our life's work. That's more than the resume.

And when I look around this room, there's some new faces, there's some old faces. But I see so many creative individuals who I consider all friends at this point. And there's no place I'd rather be than celebrating with people like you. And this, this right here is what it's about the relationships and the people that are in your life. And so, like, I just kind of went on a little tangent with that. And I don't know. A lot of people after, like, that really, really hit me. And I was just extremely grateful for all those people that showed up a lot, didn't have to, the people that shared about it.

It was special. It was really special. My brother, I'll never forget this line to you. My brother walks in. And he's like, this is amazing. Like, but do you know all these people? Like, who is everyone here? that's good stuff that's good stuff that's amazing i can that resonates with me because i remember when we were you know water spraying on us from uh at the bellagio um at the supper club uh given

looking into your guys's eyes you know given those that speech in prompt on the last day of the bachelor party i'm glad you had that moment i'm glad you had that feeling it looked amazing and you know many more jason tardick uh sponsor parties in the future um is is what everyone wants so Keep doing you, bro. When you see the success of the first one, I think people will be excited about the second one, and this will not be the last party we had. But David, thank you for joining me on this recap.

Greg and Andrew, if you are listening, thank you for being guests on Trading Secrets. This was a fun one like no other. And just remember, we are back every week, two times a week. So make sure that you tune into more than money this Thursday for hopefully another episode. you can't afford to miss.