Trading Secrets - Jason Tells All: Happiness, Homeownership & The Life He’s Building Now!

Episode Date: March 23, 2026

This week, Jason is joined by a very familiar guest — himself — as David Arduin returns to the host chair for the annual JTA recap episode!In this raw and reflective conversation, Jason opens up about what 2025 really looked like behind the scenes — from the emotional chaos he was sitting in during last year’s recap, to the clarity, peace, and confidence he feels now. He looks back on the predictions he got completely wrong, including being convinced he’d be out of Nashville, and explains how life ended up taking a very different turn in the best possible way.Jason shares what changed most in his personal life, why he’s finally stopped overexplaining himself, and how this season feels different from anything he’s experienced before. He talks about finding real alignment, what he now values more than career growth or social media milestones, and why 2026 feels less like survival mode and more like building the life he actually wants.On the business side, Jason breaks down the biggest year yet for both Trading Secrets and Rewired Talent Agency. He shares how the podcast continues to grow beyond Bachelor Nation, why the agency had a record-setting year, and how his own brand generated millions through major partnerships, speaking, and strategic niche positioning. He also gives a brutally honest look at the creator economy, what makes talent marketable, and why follower count means a lot less than most people think.Jason also reveals the details behind buying his first home in Nashville, how he negotiated the deal, why this moment means so much at 37 years old, and what it represents in the bigger picture of where his life is heading. From relationships and self-worth to business growth, money, and long-term vision, this episode is one of the most honest JTA recaps yet.Jason reveals all this and so much more in another episode you can’t afford to miss!Wayfair Find furniture, decor, and essentials that fit your unique style and budget. Head to Wayfair dot com right now to shop all things home. That’s W-A-Y-F-A-I-R dot com. Wayfair. Every style. Every homeWayfair.comWhatNot Whatnot is the largest dedicated live shopping platform, whether it’s beauty, collectibles, electronics, luxury fashion  — even cookies — sellers are building real, thriving businessesWhatNot.comUpWorkScaling a business takes the right expertise at the right time. Upwork helps growing teams quickly bring in specialized freelancers—so you can move faster and take the business to the next levelUpwork.comAir Doctor Head to AirDoctorPro.com and use promo code TRADINGSECRETS to get UP TO $300 off today! AirDoctor comes with a 30-day money back guarantee, plus a 3-year warranty—an $84 value, free! Get this exclusive, podcast-only offer now at AirDoctorPro.com using promo code TRADING SECRETS

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please contact Connix Ontario at 1866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with Eye Gaming Ontario. Welcome back to another episode of Trading Secrets. I'm your host, Jason Tartick, and welcome to the JTA. So the JTA is one episode every single year where I'm in the hot seat and David, my co-hosts, who does the recaps with me after every episode, puts me in the hot seat, ask me all the tough business questions, the one I ask most of my guests, how much you make, give us the breakdown, what does it look like, business challenges, life challenges, all the moving parts. Now, I have a giveaway before we even start. Please remember to subscribe. and let us know what your biggest takeaway from this episode is or any episode is and give us five star in the comments and make sure you put your email address and or your Instagram in the

review and I have a nice little gift card that I am giving away next recap. I will announce the winner. So please give us your biggest takeaway from this episode. But it is a good one. It's a fiery one. It's intense. Sometimes JTA gets super emotional and super raw. Sometimes it's very straightforward and it's very business-like. I will tell you this, a little behind the scenes, which is what we usually do in the recaps, is we got a little short on time. So this episode's 54 minutes, which is no joke.

That's a long episode. We probably could have done about two, three hours with the things that we had to cover and the things that happened in 2025. It was a lot. So what we're going to do is this week will be the first week ever, and we are going to do it for at least one week,

and maybe we'll extend throughout. But we're going to do 30-minute Thursdays. So again, remember to subscribe to the podcast. Follow us on Instagram, Trading Secrets Podcast. And this Thursday, 30-minute Thursday, we'll touch on a recap of JTA, things that we missed. Maybe some of the more emotional pieces of 2025 that we didn't hit on in this business breakdown. But if you guys like the 30-minute Thursdays, let us know in your review when you give us five stars. And maybe we'll keep it around.

There's so much that happens in my presentation. personal life and with business and outside of news that are trending in pop culture, life, economics and policy. And we're thinking about on 30-minute Thursdays, maybe breaking into that a little bit more, going through the news that you need to know, the things that are being talked about and things that are important to both our lives. Maybe having call-ins, call-in questions, maybe having guests time to time. But 30-minute Thursday, stay tuned this week. It should be a good one. But enough of me, ramble it. Let's ring in the bell. to the 2025 annual recap. JTA 2025. It's the fifth one we've ever done. David, take it away.

Welcome to another episode of Trading Secrets. Today, I am joined by someone who you may be familiar with on Trading Secrets. It's our host, or usually our host, Jason Tarduk, but today, the one day, Jason, I am the host. The Curious Canadian, the voice of the viewer. I'm relaxed. You're in the hot seat today. I'm a hot see. Listen, Jason, a little bio for you that you give all of our guests. Jason is the co-founder of ReWired Talent Agency. He's the host of Trading Secrets Podcast 51 weeks a year. He's an author of two books, Talk Money to Me and the Restart Roadmap. He's a content creator with over a million followers across all of his platforms. He's an expert in multitasking, despite being the most inefficient multitasker I've ever met in my life. He's a very proud dog dad.

He's a die-hard Buffalo Bills fan. He's one of my best friends. He's the one. He's the one. He's He is the only Jason Tardick. Jason, welcome to Trading Secrets today. It's so good to be. That was a great intro. I feel like this is the fifth year we've done this. That was your best intro yet. I learned from the best.

So what can I say? And you know what else? We're learning. We're at the brand hive here in Buffalo again for the second year in row. And last year, Jason, we popped champagne to celebrate. And it was a mess all over the floor. It was a tough start, honestly. Like your 2024 was.

And it kind of set the tone for what the JTA was. So we're in a much different place this year. It's funny is that was 2024 and 2025. It was tough stars for both. It was kind of spilling all over the floor like it's spilled in the 2025. So this year we're going to class it up a little bit. It's less chaotic this year. So we're going to cheers.

Look at us. Look at us. We've grown. Hey, we've grown. Cheers to us. We've grown with high noons in our cocktail class. Yes, but we brought nice glasses today. So we're classed it up a bit.

And just to touch on before we turn the page. In preparation for this, I listened to JTA 2024. Oh, boy. It was sad. Yeah. It was sad. We talked a lot about your past relationships. We talked a lot about some obstacles he had in life.

We talked a lot about your healing process. Yeah. Okay? It put me back to the time in our life and our friendship and what we were feeling together at that time. And you know what I'm looking forward to? What are you looking forward to? Listen to this episode next year.

I'd feel in none of that. None of that. I'm looking forward to feeling the energy that I know you're bringing into life right now. I listened back to 2025. We recorded it in January, 2025. Room, same place. And it's the recap of 2024. So today, of course, we're recording in 2026.

It's the recap of 2025. And when I listened to it back, it was interesting how far off my predictions were of what life would look like, but also how they were a little close. And I was clearly in a little bit of a state of chaos. And it's so crazy how much my life has changed in a year. I think it was like in that moment, you were the little engine that could. You could, you believe, but you just weren't there yet. And you knew that you were going to get there. And I think it's fair to say right now, Jason, happy, positive.

dare I say a little bit relieved with where you are in life? Yeah, relieved. I think it's light. It's peace. It's clear. Everything in my life is so clear. And you think about what my teaser looked like last year for what I thought it would be. It was not clear.

Which we'll get into right away, which we will get into because the teaser has become a tradition at JTA. And we're going to get into all the things that are making you happy, that are bringing this energy into your life. We're going to get into those a little bit later, okay? But for those of you who have joined us to Trading Secrets this year and are listening to JTA for the first time, can you just lay out why we do JTA? What the purpose of the heart of JTA is for this podcast? All right.

So JTA, trading secrets. It's everything we weren't taught in school. It's the people of content you consume, the books you read, the people that you watch, the athletes you admire, entrepreneurs that you learn from. And we say, come in the chair here and tell us everything about your business. how you got to where you got, how much money you've made along the way, how much money you've lost, because these are the things we're not taught in school. And on this episode, what we do is we talk about my year, how much I made, where I made it, what it looked like, the different business

avenues, the struggles, the successes. And what I always like to preface, we've been doing this for five years, some of the numbers we might throw out here. They might be a shock to some people. Some people might not be phased at all. And the biggest thing I like to say in this episode is that this is not to boast or brag, flex or feel good. It's that we have been taught in our society since day one. There's a stigma that we don't talk about money. When we're struggling with money, we hide our bills. And we have credit card debt, we won't acknowledge it. And the only way that we can advance what we're doing in life is if we have some sort of financial transparency. If we can all talk about where we make money and how we make it, we can grow. We can learn about

different industries. We could put ourselves on a path we want to be on as opposed to path that maybe mom, dad, cousin, brother, sister put us on or societal pressures put us on. So that's the entire part. If you're new here to trading secrets, that's what we do. And it's all for educational purposes. In a world where we don't talk about finances, in a world where we sometimes don't talk about feelings on GTA, we do it all. We do it all. We check all the boxes, much to my smile and your nerves, but take another sip of that high noon and we'll continue to get into it. But things we do always touch on JTA personal. Can I say this too? You can say whatever. I don't know the questions he's asking.

So there's one time a year that David gets to log into my Instagram. He gets to see the questions you guys submit. I don't look at them. I don't know them. I don't know the curveballs. I do have some numbers here that I think are somewhat accurate, having filed taxes yet. So they're not perfectly accurate. But I'll do my best.

Thanks for the reminder. They should probably file my taxes. Yeah. I appreciate that. You should find your crypto. I will get, no, we won't talk about that today. But we will talk about your personal, your professional, your financial. As you mentioned, we will get into the Money Mafia Question Roulette, which I'm very excited for.

Fire away. But listen, we have to, we tease it already. We're talking about your trailer for 2025. So before I go into it, do you remember elements of what it was or is it a foggy time back then when you talked about what your trailer for 2025 would look like? Because I'm going to say it and then I want your instant gut reaction. Say it. Okay. I got to say in the Jason Tarnik voice too.

Okay. Okay. Last time I was here, Mitch Trubisky, backup quarterback of the bills, he did the whole one. welcome to trading secrets and the Jason voice and just embarrassed a lot of me. I'm like, thanks, Mitch. So David, let's go. Fire away. This one started a little bit. You can tell your headspace with how it started. Okay, here we go. Jason's 2025 trailer went a little something like this. It is going to be a twister. Wicked, the show, right? Think about the Wizard of Oz. You got Dorothy. The house gets fucking blown up. They're spinning around and then they land and it all works out.

It's mayhem. They kill the witch and all that stuff. I think my life is going to be absolute twister in 2025. I don't know next year where I'm going to live. It's not going to be national. I think if you take a snapshot, this is Jason's life today, January 2025. In January 2026, none of it will look the same location, things going on, things are happening in my life. It's going to be a twister. And then all the dust is going to settle. My guess is going to be September, October, and it's going to be great. I think in 2025 it's going to be the most insane year of my life. So when you hear that, Jason, what's your gut reaction? Which of that is true and which of it is false compared to the reality of you sitting in this chair a year later

today. I'm laughing. I'm laughing hard because what I said that, I was in a state of chaos. In 2023, I had a four and a half year relationship not work out in an engagement end, didn't know what was going to happen and what life would look like. I then nine months later jumped into another relationship that was very serious and that didn't work out as both those were public relationships. And when we filmed this, that was three months after dealing with the culmination of it all. And it was chaos. That was chaos. You could hear it in my, I mean, what I called it? You were talking about wicked. When you started your trailer with wicked, I was like, here we go. It was twister. It was. Starting last year, I remember, I had such confusion. I just didn't know what it

would look like or how it would look like. It was very pessimistic, but it was also excited. And the beginning of the year was crazy. What the thing is, the thing. that I laugh about is it's anyone that's listening to this that's going through a hard time, I just want to say whether it's one millimeter, it's one inch, it's one foot, just keep going. Just keep going. Because once you crawl out of that hole of hell, whatever it is, your work life, your friendship life, your financial life, your health, life will open up. And when it opens up and you're on the right path with the right people and it's addition

by subtraction, everything will move at a speed you never thought it would, but in the best way possible. So here we are a year ago. And I'm saying, I know one thing with certainty, I won't be in Nashville.

One year later, I'm 20 days from signing a piece of paper for my dream home, my first home, which we'll talk about the numbers, of course. We will talk about that, yeah. And it's in Nashville, Tennessee.

There you go. I was way off at every direction. But I just think when you're saying, that all I hear is chaos and someone listening to this you might feel one of those areas I mentioned is chaos trust me clarity will come every day just put one little baby step in front of the next you saying that about getting one millimeter one inch getting closer and it'll figure itself out reminds me of the Amanda pitula episode that just came out a couple weeks ago because that her whole podcast was about that so it really resonated there quickly before we move on to the professional

aspects of JTA I want to know when you think about the growth that you've made this year. When you think about the place that you're in now from the place that you were in, maybe it's not a person, but is there something when I say the word thankful for? What are you thankful for in the last year? Is it something? Is it someone? Is it some moment? Is it some lesson? Is it what are you the most thankful for? Is it a word? What is it? What is it? When you think back, I'm like, man, I'm so thankful that this is in 2026 and didn't have that 20 to 25 in previous. So I'm going to answer that question. I'm going to say, I'm having this vision of what I was wearing that day. I remember I was wearing when we did this episode. It was a blue and

white sweater. And I remember sitting there and I remember watching it back when we just recorded just to make sure it all was fine. And what I would tell that person right now, I would be like, dude, put your chin up, put your chest up and find your fucking foundation and your confidence. Like you have this. Stop questioning yourself. Stop let other people word or likeness impact who you think you are. None of that. matters. You are so caught up and just the noise and the chaos, but no one in life, no matter what they say, can take your character and they can't take your integrity and they can't take your identity. And I think I've learned in my life, especially in the last year, what I'm most thankful

for is that I don't over-explain anymore. Hell, I don't even explain to people I don't respect. And a year ago, I was sitting in this chair trying to figure out how to explain to those listening while also being respectful of many people that weren't respecting me because I was trying to walk on this tightrope making the world happy. And you know what? It doesn't matter. Like all that doesn't matter. So that's the biggest thing I would say is stop over explaining.

I'm thankful for that. Stop explaining, especially stop trying to gain the likeness of people that you don't respect. And that was a big learning lesson for that. Well, you attract what you project in life. and you are definitely attracting positivity into your life. I think you feel that in your surroundings. And let's just give me a cheers.

I'm happy for you. Cheers. See, I told you that this year was going to be a little different. I told you this year was going to be a little different. It feels good. It feels good. I said last year, I don't know what next year will bring. When I look at next year, I have a lot of clarity of what it will bring.

Let's do this. Let's round out the feel good portion before we get into the business of the numbers. You got to give us the trailer for 2026. So Jason, as you think about this, what is the trailer with all those thoughts and those feelings and those words? Give it to me 30 seconds or less, your trailer for 2026. Trailer for 2026. Okay, I'm going to start with this because it's just top of mind and it connects what we talked about. Being nice is not kind.

I think hard truths are a privilege. And I think when I look at business life and I like at friendships and I look at where I spend my time, the places I will spend it. are the people that I know deeply care about me and I deeply care about them. And when I look into 26, what I see is I see light. I see bliss. I see happiness. I see someone that no matter what challenges come my way, economic challenges, financial challenges, I will find a way to do it. And the reason I feel so confident in that is because of the work I've done and having a partner like Catherine in the work she's done. And I feel as a team, we're just unstoppable. And when I say unstoppable, I'm not talking about work. I'm not talking about financial success. I'm talking about

happiness. Like we're 10 toes down to the things that matter and talking through conflict and seeing the vision of what we want for life. And I don't know if 2026 is going to be massively financially successful or I'm going to have this big moment. There's a mean this huge change in relevancy or a show. And I don't care. I know that next year at this time, I will be in a better place to what I want to be in life, which is to be married and have a family and have kids and do something bigger than social media and work. And so that's what I'm expecting for next year.

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W-A-Y-F-A-I-R dot com. Wayfair, every style, every home. That's because you've said before and it didn't happen and so you find a new true meaning of it when it's right in front of your face and you feel like it is real. So I hope the listeners are at home are saying, you know what? Hell yeah.

Hell yeah, Jason, because we want that for you too. And we're rooting you on and we see it right in front of your face too. So that's, I can get behind that. I can get behind that trailer for 2026. And I think this one is, it's believable. I think it will happen for you. Yeah, I think so too. And you know what?

It sticks out to me when you say that. There was a Monday Mafia question last year where it said, what would you give up to find all those things that you just mentioned? And you said, I'd get everything. I'd go back to be a corporate banker. And so you just said it. You said not being overly worried about the social media things and those aspects because you have the priority and you have those things.

it's really important and you're living to the word that your truth that you've spoken, which is really exciting. I said back then, I remember that moment. I said, I'd give it all up. Like you said, if you find your wife and you can have a family, you'll give it all up. And I feel very confident that I found that. And I would, I'll give it all up right now. There you go.

If I had to do it right now, we had to get the switch on all of it, turn it all off to keep what is current today. If you don't think that we're getting in the weeds about, that in the last 25, 30 minutes of this podcast, you don't know, Trading Secrets, Recaps that. So we're going to hit the pause on that. Okay. And we're going to transition into the business aspect of it. Okay.

I like, I like where this is going right now because you just alluded to maybe it's not your everything anymore work, which is a healthy place to be. Let's see if the numbers reflect that, Jason. Okay. Let's see if the numbers reflect that. So we're going to start with the podcast. Okay. Podcast.

We'll go to your own socials. We'll go to the agency. We're going to start where we always do, reflecting on 2025, with the top podcast episodes for this season. Do you have them in front of you? I do. I just pull it up here. List off for the people, the top five podcast episodes from a download perspective for 2025.

Okay. Top five podcast episodes, Trading Secrets. O'Landria from Love Island, absolute star, Rachel Kirkconnell, this summer in the Hamptons. That episode blew up. Caitlin Collins, CNN correspondent, White House correspondent. an absolute star Cordell Beckham Jr. and Amanda Batula. Wow.

And something tells me with Amanda's episode last week. You saw the coverage that got. I think Amanda's episode will be top five this year, too. Do you know how I know that shows growth for the podcast? How's that? That is the first year that we, number one spot, hasn't been a bachelor alum. Wow. And not only has it not been a bachelor alum, there's only one bachelor or bachelor's ad alum in the top five. Rachel Kirkano.

Yeah. Yeah. So that's it. That's growth. That means the brands, it's moving. That's, man, we can go down the whole world. We are going to lean into the old bachelor strategy on March 22nd when it airs. I think that's the air date.

And we're going to actually give our honest thoughts about the franchise. Okay. On what we'll talk about really soon, 30 minute Thursdays. More to come. 30 minute Thursdays. What was the total revenue for the podcast in 2025? Okay. I think this would be cool for people to learn.

There's different aspects of podcast revenue. important. So the big thing that rates are derived from is CPM. So that is the amount of money you get for every thousand downloads. So typical CPM is going to be about 25 to 30 bucks for every thousand downloads you get for an ad. So if you get 50,000 downloads at a $30 CPM, each ad is going to be $1,500 per ad. Then if you get a couple ads, So let's say you get two, three ads a week, you're going to gross in those scenarios like 250,000. Okay.

So the thing with Trading Secrets is, and this is one thing with my brand too, there are certain niches where your CPM will go up. Finance, entrepreneurship, beauty, fitness. Those are categories that you can charge a higher CPM. So for our podcast, we have revenue that comes from audio and then we have revenue that comes from Trading Secrets. The audio-only ads probably do around, let's call it, 300,000. And then the social media element probably does another 200,000.

So let's call it with that podcast, 400 to 500,000 when you factor in social media elements coupled in with audio-only reads. Now, the biggest thing with Trading Secrets is that it has given me on resumes in working with other brands, a huge connection into deal structures I'm doing that are going at six-figure rates. Right. So for example, Tommy John deal I did, which was a top six deal I did in last year, a portion of that is I'll interview the CEO.

And so we'll connect what's 98% social media deliverables, but also connects the podcast. So the podcast brand having the podcast, even if it was. was a loss, even if we made no money on this podcast through audio-only ads, I would still do the podcast because it brings such a strong brand element to the other areas that are monetizing. Does that make sense? That makes perfect sense. Even though all I can picture is the Tommy John ad in your underwear being in the subways in New York City and on my Instagram and on my TVs. It's crazy. Didn't see, I didn't think I'd see that. But another thing too is there's when you guys hear podcasts, there's three different styles of ads. There's dynamically.

inserted ads, which are at the top of the podcast or you'll hear them often. And then there's programmatic ads. Those are when I'm not reading them. Someone else is reading them. Then there's baked in ads. And that's when the host is reading them. So the baked in ads will pay the most amount. And so we have a good deal with our podcast network right now. However, that contract's coming up and back. And for the first time ever, I am dialed in on the revenue generation of this podcast. And in the next year, it's going to pop. We're going to hire a full-time creative director for so long. We've had part-time people, like one person wrote the newsletter. One person did this. One person did that. We're having one creative director. We'll have

our video editing team. And that's going to be it. We're going full speed. And you will see changes in trading secrets. But let's call it 500,000 with trading secrets. Okay. So we're moving up in the year over year. That's the goal. Moving up in around 320. We estimated all in with social. And I'll add around 300. That was 400 last year. And I would say somewhere I got to, I don't, again, I have the numbers right here. Four to 500. 83K in 2021, 262K in 2022, 22, 32, 320K in 2023, 400K in 2024, and 500K in 2025.

There you have it. Moving up in the world. Speaking of moving up the world, your boy sitting here who normally does the recaps, we're talking about doing 30-minute Thursdays. What do you think about those? Last time at this time, we were talking about getting rid of the recaps.

We got all these comments, don't get rid of the recap. 30-minute Thursdays, make the pitch. Listen, I think 30-minute Thursdays is a great idea. I think our podcast is evolving. We're trying to grow it. We're trying to lean into the social media. We're trying to characterize us a little more than just host interviewing recap once a week. Getting on the ones and twos and doing things like this, right?

Being able to talk about some really relevant, maybe they're more in the moment, pop culture, maybe the more business. Maybe it's more learning about the house. Maybe it's more learning about things that you're going through that I'm going through in life as we grow. It's a free flow. It's a little bit of a free throw. It's a little bit of what we do best. At the end of the day is we, one thing I think about corporate bro, as he gets his audience from the guy who came off the bachelor who finds love and is going to eventually buy a house and start

a family, your audience is going through the same thing. So tapping into that for that audience is going to connect them with us more and more, right? At the end of the day, been here for five years. Don't think I'm going anywhere. If you look at the reviews and people that we get, they like our connection. They like our banter. I think they like the insight that I'm able to pull out of you that our audience really likes. So I think giving us a little bit more platform, 30 minute Thursdays, we talked about it last

year. It is better for the podcast. It does bring in more opportunity for ads. It does help downloads. It's a way to just spice things up a little bit. Get a little bit. 30 minute Thursdays, no prep, just go, talk all the things. Maybe just bring random guests on based on what's happening. Let's do it. We've talked about female voice too. Maybe get Kelly Flanagan is a name who comes in the mex. Yeah. We spice it up a little bit. We just call people in. We do Collins, questions all of it. Collins questions. 30 minute Thursdays. Let us know, you know in the comments. We just got the four ring lights that still don't do me any justice. We got the 4K camera. We're trying to do this a little bit differently in 2026. So that's, that's more to come on that.

To end the podcast section, I'm going to get you some rapid fires. And I want these rapid fires. No ADHD kick in. We're going to go on our retangent here. Ready, set. What's the favorite podcast you went on in 2025? Favorite podcast that I went on? I think for a lot of reasons I said no to most podcasts. Okay. I don't know if I did you go on any podcast in 2025? I don't even know. No, honestly. Okay. Do you want to go on more or less? I'm sure I did.

I like asking the questions. I don't like the questions being asked. Okay. Yeah. There you go. Let me think about that one. Okay. What podcast hosts out there do you admire the most?

What call her daddy is built is impressive. It's just not, it's unbelievable what she's built. That's good. That's rapid fire. Don't have to explain it. We're good. On to the next. Jason, why haven't we done a live show?

We said last year, if we didn't, then JTA would be a live show. And all we have in the audience is my wife and your girlfriend. So if we're ever going to evolve, why haven't we done a live show? I know. I know. We should. You want to do a live show? I would love to.

Where? It doesn't matter. Name it. Where do you want to do it? New York City probably sounds like a good start. All right, New York City. We're going to do a show in New York. Let's go.

We're doing a live show in New York. Be ready. David, me, and a guest, TVD. Hit the reviews. Let us know. Maybe a DM. Maybe an email. Let us know about this.

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But every single day, we had someone at 8 a.m. Putting 15 stories up about those trends. And the response was good. It wasn't great. And so what we want to change is putting a creative director in place that is touching everything that's happening relevant to what's happening in this moment. The Grammys are on. You're going to know who's wearing what dress, how much it costs, what gift package

Did you get at the Grammys? How much they made from what brand endorsement. So it's just going to be live action, 24-7 coverage. So we're moving it from stories to more action in the actual Instagram. We need that because do you know how many stories or news articles I saw about Rob from Love Island who won traders who bought the Birken? You know how many stories I clicked in the comments to find out how much that Birken bag was. And I still don't know the answer. So yeah, we need the creative director on it because I need answers to the Birken.

What did he win? Do you know what he win in Traders? I think you win $250. 250. 50. Burkin bass could be 10K, they can be over 200. But I saw, here's a little train secret. He did a collaboration. He tagged some store. I would bet next to everything that the store he tagged paid for the Burkin. That is a nice little tease into the talent agency questions, which are on deck. Coming up, firing away. Let's go. The rewired talent agency,

it's still kicking. Not an only kicking. It's growing. May I add? It's kicking ass is what it's doing. Kickin ass, good, because listen, in JTA 2024, you said it would be tough for the agency to beat a record-setting year in 2024 going into 2025. You cited that there was no economic pullback in 2024 and predicted a pullback in 2025, and so thus it would be harder. Were you right? And what was the total gross revenue for the agency? I was wrong. Okay.

Good. And I was wrong. Best thing ever to be wrong. was culture in a company is not defined by what you put on a website. It's defined by what happens on a random Tuesday and who and how you connected you are and where you show up for your people. And I feel so strongly about our team. And I will tell you, if you do any type of social media work out there and you post consistently and you drive impressions, you have some type of PR power and you're willing to show up and work and differentiate yourself. I with confidence

will say there is not a better boutique. There's not a better agency that will monetize your social media better than us. The problem sometimes comes is you get people that have massive relevancy to get off a show. They're not willing to post as much. They don't want to dedicate the time to the brand. They're not working in the areas that they have to work. They're not working in the niches that it'll get higher rates. If you're willing to show up every day in social media and you have those things, there's not a better group anywhere that'll get you the highest rates at the best deals that are customized. Now, what we do and where we've specialized is outbound work. A lot of these massive agencies out there, the big agencies we all know, the big athletes are there, George Clooney's

there. Nowadays, reality stars will sign with one of these agencies and they do this big poster, like, oh my God, they signed. My message to them is you just got put in jail. And the reason you got put in jail is those agencies are working on a 10% commission. The reason they're working on a 10% commission is because they're doing deals with guys like Josh Allen at $100 plus million. They're going to get 10% of that. And they should never charge more than that.

But what happened is in reality in the creator world, they would never touch creators. They would never touch reality stars. Now these big agencies will sign these reality stars. And it's a big ego play to go to these big agencies because the biggest players in the world are there. The problem is if you're not earning more than $5 million a year as a creator or an influencer or someone from reality, you will not get served at those agencies in the way that you should get served. And then what they will do is put a full blanket exclusivity on you. Anything you do in any form of TV, any place anywhere for a year, you will pay them.

And it doesn't have to be the fact that they got it. it for you. And at our agency, what we do is we customize things. One size fits none. And so if we get a big reality star who just came off a show and they've been on that show for seven seasons, they can negotiate that on their own if they want. They can have someone else do it or if they have other things going on. And we haven't sourced it. We don't have to get paid on it. And so 70% of our top line is from outbound, us finding deals that are getting done for these people as opposed to these massive agencies, they're sitting on inbounds, and they're just taking emails and passing them. We have hunters that find the best deals out there. We also spend time on boards of other agencies.

We spend time in the market. We spend time researching, building connections. We know the margins that other agencies are making in different places between PR and brand, and we negotiate the best rates for our clients. My vision for the agency is strong. We're doing unbelievable work. And then the cool thing about boutique is we represent brands we represent people we represent and we now have an events division we have a social media strategist and a social media division we have a podcast division where we're managing and producing players podcast we got jesse pagula mattie keys two of the biggest tennis players united states des and jenny they're killing it all four pro female tennis players and we're just doing things differently and it's working and it's working and it's so much hard work

And the last thing I'll say about the agency, because I'm like taking all your questions because I get fired up about it is like with the agency, I still have never taken a salary. And any type of distribution is pretty much to cover tax liability. It's fully self-funded. I don't have any other investors. And the money that is made is put right back into it. And it's serving us well. It's going good. Three takeaways from that.

One, it sounds like you're talking from experience and people you worked with that have left. other agencies and maybe crawling back and big fish small pond small fish big pond they always crawl back definitely because the problem is if they go big right so if you're making more than five million bucks and you go to one of those big agencies and you're very multi-hyphenate like you have true skill sets it's not like you're having a moment on reality tv you have a true skill set those agencies can serve you very well but if you don't you're going to be the smallest fish they're the biggest pond and you will come back you will make less money Period. Period. And the one thing about the agency world that's very hard is you are a goalie.

And if you get a shutout, it's you won. Because you either build someone and grow with someone so much that they become too big that everyone wants them. And at times, I'll have clients not at my door. You guys are the best. You crushed it. No one does digital better than you. But I want to be an actor. And this agency has a full active division. So I'm, I'm going to sign with that. So you're going to go sign with them for a year. And then they're going to take everything you've built to this point, not just your acting career. They're promising. Yeah. And then they come back because they don't get served that the way they do. So it's a tough position to be in because you either build people up so big that they leave. You're not selling cars. You're not selling houses. You're not selling CRM or tech systems or medical devices. You're selling people. And you're building their storyline. And people are hard, especially when egos get involved. I digress. Two, if I was in a rewired talent agency boot camp or workshop, you'd have the whole staff fired up. Number three, you could never have given an answer like that to save your life last year because your head was in a totally different space. I was in chaos. You were in chaos.

But the reason, like some of these numbers that we're sharing are because I have the best team. I'm talking to them every day about storylines that are happening in my life and I'm going to buy a house and this is the first house I bought in. And where are you getting the dog? The next thing that's coming up, things that I'm not going to share right now, they know the stories. They know the pitches. And when you're storytelling and you're customizing pitches like that, you can change things dramatically.

And there's going to be probably people that will listen to this that have signed with us before. And we haven't been able to fulfill what they have put on the table. And the one thing I've learned is you have to be, you really have to screen talent because they've got to be talent that show up every day that are ready to build a brand, that are ready to do things differently. And not everyone is because it's 24-7 business. And it's fucking brutal.

It's a tough business. It doesn't stop. If you stop for a day, you're out. You stop for two days. You better get back in. You're not in the game for three days. See you later. Forget one week.

My God, unless you just take a time break. So anyway. With all the juice behind that answer, you've done a really good job avoiding the main answer, which is what is the gross revenue for the agency. And did you beat what you thought was an impossible? beat in 2024. Yeah. So we went from 2022. I think we did about two, three, three million. Two, two and a half million. Twenty-two-two-two-two-three. It was around four or five million. Yep. Twenty-two. Four. It was close to

we broke the 10 million. Ten point four, yep. And then this year, again, we haven't filed the taxes, but this year will be 15, 20-some million. So you did it. Yeah, we did it. You did what you didn't think you were going to do. We did it. Congratulations. Hell yeah. Take a sip. You deserve it. Let's go. No, my team deserves it. Team deserves it. We've got the best team literally in the planet. I'm convinced about it. Absolutely love that. Agency's crushing it. We're moving along. We're crushing it. Wait, real quick on this, what I think is important is people that are trying to possibly get in the creator game. Like, your followers are important, but the number of followers you have is relatively immaterial. PR power, your community, and your overall engagement.

There are people that I could give an example right now of someone who has 40,000 followers, but she's got a good brand. She shows up every single day. She posts nonstop. We made her over 30 grand in January. She's 40,000 followers. Yeah. So your follower account doesn't mean shit. You've got to show up. You got to build your brand. You got to have community. You got to work on PR power. And you got to do something different. Because when I go to a, what happens now is we're every day, we're out there casting, calling people like actors used to fill roles. And we're trying to play stories with brands. And these brands are activating. And this industry is growing at a 22 to 25% compound annual growth rate every single year.

So the money is flowing out of old traditional. It's out of the billboards. It's gone from the newspapers and magazines. It's in this space and it's hot right now. In the winter, I feel this more than ever. But especially with the dogs, even after cleaning all the time, and my house still feels a little dust heavy. And so I now have in my bedroom an air doctor.

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I'm like, this is supposed to be J-T. I'm supposed to get you in the hot seat. You're laid back. You're firing it up. You're going at it. You're giving pitches. You're bringing business in. I love it. But I'm going to bring you back here. I'm going to bring you back.

Not quite yet because you did touch on followers. I'd like to say, yeah, yeah. I'd like to say anyone that wants to contest anything that I've said that works like, oh, that's another thing is people, the other agencies are trying to sell against agencies. So the other hardest thing is they'll just talk shit. Anyone that wants to go on a debate one on one with me that is in this space, your CEO, I don't care if you work in the biggest agency in the world, your talent, You've worked at five agencies.

You disagree with anything. Come to his podcast. We will go toe to toe head to head on the agency space because there's so much gray area in this world. And I'm ready to wreck. And you're telling me that we don't need 30 minute Thursdays to get some of this out of there to get it in the universe. Let's go.

Let's go. Let's go. High news. I'm fired up. Ever heard of them? Done talking. All right. Perfect.

You talked about it doesn't matter how many followers you have. But I have a question for you. Yeah. It's 24, 25. you grew over all your platforms, TikTok, Instagram, Twitter, YouTube subs, trading secrets, Instagram, LinkedIn, threads. You grew in all the areas. Your relevancy is more relevant than it's ever been.

You're growing. All these people wonder, do you worry if this is ever going away? On a personal level, it's not going away. On a business level, you're crushing it on both aspects. The podcast is grown. The talent agency is growing. You're at 997,000 Instagram followers. How important to you is it to hit a million followers?

A personal level? Is there a financial incentive? Is there a threshold? Is it anything at all? It's just ego. Could you have answered that same way last year, the year before, the year before? Probably not. Yeah. It's just ego. Would it be cool to have a million? Sure. But there are people that have five million followers that I make 10 times more than they do. And there are people that have 200,000 followers that make five times more than I do. So it works both ways. The million is an ego thing. I would love to get there. It would be cool to get there. But what I'm more interested in is, am I doing the right things that are authentic to me, that are real, that are creative? Am I thinking about really creative things that are bringing education or enlightenment or entertainment to the community that I care about?

If I could do that every day, I don't care if it hits a million point five or it goes down to 800. But I also have a very, I'm a hard critic of myself, like a really hard critic. Yeah, you are. Did you ever think that you would get a million? And was there a time of your life where you did. did work or you tried to put contact with that mind. Not like for the natural, the goodness, but hey, I have to do this because I have to get a million. You can look at audio that we have said from probably 2022 to 22 to 23 to 24. We've talked about a million. I said, I'll never get a million.

That's the way I work, though. I never thought last year I'd be at 997. I never thought that you're 996, whatever. I never thought that you and I would be five years into this. I thought last year the agency wasn't going to do well. I have this weird, wired system. It's like anti-manifesting system. It's like everything that everyone tells you not to do. I operate from a place of fear. I operate from a place of I can't. It's not good enough. I got to keep going. I got to be better. And I'm not saying that's the way to do it, but that's what drives me. We walked into the house the other day and we were FaceTime and Catherine's dad and his exact words where I'm pinching myself looking at this house. You must be so proud of yourself. And I took a second. It gave me goosebumps because when I was walking around the house before he said that,

there was not one single thought of the one million that went in my brain that thought proud. Yeah. I thought I didn't deserve it. I thought, how am I going to continue forward it? What am I going to do tomorrow? How am I going to be better at work? Okay, I got a budget. And that is, that's a little unhealthy. It's quite unhealthy. But it's also the motor that's gotten to get to where you are today. There's got to be a happy balance between it all. When you talk about social media last year, I asked you out of 10 what your priority level was to grow your socials. your answer was eight or nine out of 10 as a priority level to grow your socials in 2025, which honestly really surprised me.

What did it end up being in your life in terms of a priority to grow your socials last year? Four. Yeah. Good. Good. I thought so. I think where it is now is just put out stuff that you put out stuff you really think is good. Put out just things you think are good that are true to you.

That's just good stuff. And I know when I put out shit. And I'm like, that was terrible. Why is it doing that? And I know when I put out really good stuff. And yeah, that's the priority is there. All right, we're going to fire through these last ones so we can get to the Mono Mafia questions.

We can talk about some of these things. In JTA, 2024, you talked about the Jason Tardick brand, 600 million Instagram impressions, 150 million TikTok impressions in 2024, a massive increase year over year. In 2025, I'm assuming that this will be less because of deals based on your prior relationships, dating someone in the public space in the social media space. And you expected it this year to go way down. more focus on your life, more focus on getting back in your feed, building a massive pipeline of deals. What was the Jason Tartick brand earnings last year from social media, engagements, speaking events, etc?

So last year on Instagram, in 2025 I did around 550 million. Okay. So right, yeah, around the same amount. So on a month-to-month basis, it's in that 30 to 50 million range, which I'm now met with analysts and stuff for my following is massive. Part of the new algorithm is pushing stuff out to non-followers. And so some of the stuff I've done has done that. Trading Secrets is been a big part of it. We had Rebecca Minkoff on.

The most viral clip, we had the Flusie Clause, got 400,000 likes, 10 million impressions. To your answer, I did just about the same as last year. So again, I haven't like the tax return hasn't come or whatever, but it's going to be in that two million. Two to three million range, yeah. Congratulations. Yeah. Just keep the train rolling. Keep it going.

Keep rolling that snowball down the hill. Keep going. Okay, I love it. We're going to keep it going over here. I think it's time for me to turn the page. I'm looking at that clock over there. You're taking a sip. You know where we're going.

I'm going to ask one last personal investment question. We're going to get to the moment off of your questions. I think real quick on the big thing I want to say, these creators might see this and be like, how do you make $2 million? There's no way. And when you look at five deals, I wrote them down, Chime Bank, Dell, Invesco, Tommy John, Progressive. those five deals together are over a million bucks. Wow.

That's over 50% of it. Wow. So when you talk about high rates for high niches, when you're in the finance area, you're going to get paid a premium because you're dealing with a ton of regulation. You're dealing with a ton of operation. They have to have,

you have to have extremely low liability. So essentially your entire socials get scrubbed in a technology to make sure you're like a G rated, a PG rated, media content creator. And those five deals did over seven figures. Think about that, though. One's a bank.

One's a top computer company for business entrepreneurs. One's insurance. And one is a big investment fund. That ever, like QQQ is a fantastic. I don't, it's unbelievable. The other one was a rap. Thomas. So you just strutting around here on these, baby.

There you go. Hey, whatever pays. So those five. Yeah. If I didn't have the finance and the entrepreneurship, piece, that doesn't happen. The other thing that was big this year, I don't want to get away from, is speaking. I did about 150 to 200k of speaking last year that I'm including into those numbers.

And so the low end got paid around 10K, the high end got paid 50K. For the one I got paid, it was like 5060. For the one I got 5060K, though, I was doing full two-hour segments with big brands there talking all about the perspective of a creator and someone that manages creators. So how do you manage? and then how do you actually get in that? And these people are doing seven figure plus campaigns, like one campaign is a million plus dollars.

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I can't afford it. Okay. Hey, we're going to get to that. My last question is sticking on traditional investing. People always come to this podcast. They want advice for investing. You talked last year how you said you invested in a G-squared fund, AI fund. You had $250K invested in that fund.

Yes. You were all about. AI. We talked about it a lot. I don't know if we need to go into detail about your belief in AI unless it's changed. But where is that fund at? How's it doing? Talk to us a little bit about that. So that fund is a private equity AI fund. I won't see the money until it materializes. They value the fund every quarter or so. Last time I heard it was valued, it was over 2x that. Okay. I haven't seen that. All right. I invested KKR, Black Rock. Shout out to UBS Bank. They've been unbelievable. But the other thing, too, is the way that I'm managing money and the way that I'm

managing all this stuff is like what my advisor says, we're managing you like an athlete. We're assuming tomorrow the switch is flipped and this all goes away. Also, tax liability is insane. Like the amount last year I paid well over seven figures in taxes, and I live in a no state income tax. So these numbers sound like these crazy things. But after you pay the expenses, the people, the team, all the non, just all of it and taxes, I'm not here at all complaining. It is, this is an honor of the position I'm in. I know how fortunate I am for that, but I just want to put in perspective. People throw these numbers out, but you don't think about what the actual number is.

That's the cash inflow after all that. And it's a lot smaller than numbers are thrown around right now. And that is why people tune into trading secrets. So you can tell them about that. You can have guests tell us about it in their different industries, in their world and you have situations like Mike the situation who got himself in a situation another big podcast that we had talking about all these things so jason you have mentioned it a couple times i want to make sure i get the questions in a big focus in your life that i'm sure you're going to be talking about

on the podcast and a 30 minute thursday on your instagram and it was a complete false prediction was that you are done in nashville because you my friend are officially you want to break the news i haven't signed the paper yet but i'm supposed to close in april he is closed you closing on a house. He is going to be a homeowner in National Tennessee, something that you never thought in this roller coaster and twister, whatever happened. The one thing you asked me, though, that's what you said, do you want to get a dog this year? And I said, I love to get a dog. Yes. So that came true. Of course. And listen, I saw the house. The house is beautiful. And you know how they say that dogs look like their dog owners? Yeah, you're the funniest reaction. Your house looks like Teddy. Like if Teddy was a house, he looks like your house. It's just the perfect golden retriever house. And it's like Teddy smile. island looking at you. So I absolutely love that. I got to ask, it is a beautiful home. We talked numbers here. Jason, what was the cost of the house? Give it to us. Just give it to us.

Before I give you the cost. Let's sorry about what's really. I've been doing a good job this year. You've been pushing the question, the answer back and giving us the reason and then you hope I forget it, maybe not. I'm 37 years old. I've never bought a home. Yes. 37 years old, I've never bought a home. Good start a home. Everywhere I've lived at 37. When I was 36, And 35. And at 36, I think last year, $2.7 million of income. I lived in a home where my rent was $2,000. I was single, too. So you see all these people online, they're flexed. I was, I lived in this little baby ranch that was in a swamp. It was $2,000. Saved as much. Because at a young age of a banker and doing all this, I've been smart with my money. I've been smart with my spending. And because of that,

I've been able to stockpile a good amount. And so my first home, it puts in perspective, 37, don't have a home until now. It's the first time. And when you look at the amount you're supposed to spend based on your earnings, they say 30 to 40% of home expenses, like max. Yep. That was, I was spending like literally 2% of my earnings. So I want to give that perspective.

Of course. Okay, for this home, it's a new build. It was listed at 3, 4, 5, 9. $3.459 million. Okay. I went it at $3259. Okay. They came back at 3.4.

Okay. I went back at 3.3. Okay. They said 3330 is the lowest will go, bottom of the line. I went back and said 3309 or I'm not doing the deal. My realtor, this is an interesting trading secret. My realtor was like really trying to push me like, Jason. And are you going to feel like if they don't accept this?

Because I'm not sure they're going to. And she's, I don't think they're going to. I said they'd be insane not to take this. I don't have to sell a home. And I'm giving them a lot of things in this contract that are advantageous. That other people can't do. They'd be insane. And she goes, they would say the same about your counter.

I said, we'll see what happens. Is your heart racing? Are you in negotiation mode? Do you even care about the house at that point? Are you just not trying to prove a point, but you're just in it. One of the things I said was like, it's sick. a game. Every day's a game. This is a game. Everything is like fun. It's a day. Every day you wake up, there's a game. There's a game. I was more excited about I wanted at 3309. Can we get it or not?

Yeah. Not I'm walking. I know the leverage I have as a buyer. And I felt, I honestly felt bad because she called me, this is an interesting training secret. She called, I call, she called me back. She said, Jason, I've been looking at homes with you for a year. I haven't seen you have the twinkle in your eye at one home. You have the twinkle in your eye at this home. Catherine's amazing. I see this being your home together. I'm going to take a discount on the commission. Wow.

And it's 3309. And I stopped. And she's like, do you, are you okay? I was like, I got to think about it. She's like, you have to think about it. I go, no, I think I have to reverse negotiate against myself. I don't feel comfortable. Right.

And stop. That right there tells me the kind of heart you have. This happens. We're doing it. It's done. Three, three, three. Amazing. That's it.

Congratulations. We have a homeowner in the house. Not a big deal. It's not done yet. It's not done yet. Well, we're going to manifest that it is done. The papers are going to be signed. I got a question. When you sign those papers, Jason, how many names are on the mortgage?

Right now, Catherine is still my girlfriend. Okay. There will be one name. Okay. And if you read the book, Talk Money to Me, you'll hear a couple horror stories. Those horror stories would never happen with her. But when we get married, things will change. Are you with your new relationship with Catherine?

Are you following all the Talk Money to Me, Words of Wisdom and advice? in there. So you guys talk finances. That was a big question. Mine am Offie Roulette. Open book. We talk about it. We go through it. We got some probably with the new house. Got some more things to go through. Okay. We got it. Okay. So one name on the mortgage, you said my girlfriend for now, there's a couple dots in there. JTA 2027 when we reflect on 26. Maybe we'll have some updates on that. I like that. Okay. I like that. Quick rapid fires on the house. You ready? Fire away. What percentage are you going to put down as down payment? Traditional 20 or anything less? 25. 25. Most stressful part of the home buying process.

Justifying the cost in 2026. Okay. Most rewarding part of the home buying process. Knowing that you have a permanent place. Like this is it. This is home. What's the best feature of the house? The closet is,

yeah. The closet's great. The living room's great. I love everything. Closet is. There's not one imperfection from my eyes. Closet is probably the size of your parents' starter home from your first home. What's the first project?

It's as big as my house that was $1,800 a month. What's the first project you're going to do in the house? Consider a pool. Oh, I like it. I am a pool owner, so we can talk about the pros and cons on that. How prepared are you to be a homeowner? Not at all terrifies me. What will you absolutely contract out based off of the dollar value of your time? Landscaping. Yes, 100%. Anything else? I think we cover most of it. I think what's interesting, if we go back, the house or just life as we wrap here? Just the house. Maybe the life. Just the house. Yeah. Okay. Good. Awesome. We are going to get into some money off here.

We're like questions. We have a couple minutes here. Are you ready for them? Fire. I knew I had to get it for the people. Catherine, got a touch on it. We didn't go too much in detail. She's an absolute sweetheart. You guys are great together. You're infectious together. It's so great to see you guys together.

Shout out to her. I love that her and Ashley are getting to catch up and hang out. And when this is done, we're going to have a great night together. But what feels different about your relationship with Catherine compared to not just your last couple, but every relationship that you've had? Everything. Okay. Good.

I think everything. I remember last year, you told me you'll know you when you're with the right person when you're have to ask advice on anything. I've ever called you and asked you anything about this, that or the other thing. Everything. Amazing. Yeah. We her and I are doing an episode. Okay. So there you go. People are asking how we met when we met more about us. It's coming. Favorite person you met in 2025 and not named Catherine? Harry. I knew you were going to say Harry. I love that you said Harry. That was absolutely unbelievable. Harry number one, my neighbor number two. How do you stay in amazing shape but not eat healthy foods? That was a monomafia question. Intermittent fast.

That's a good, that's a great health. I go on crazy streaks too. I'll do two months of via dialed and then one month of hell. Do you ever stress about money even when you're doing well? I don't ever not stress about money because when I think about stressing, I didn't come from much and I think about where I'm at and there's always a liability. Even when you have it, there's liability getting sued. There's a liability of this. There's always a concern.

The liability of the business goes out. So yeah, it's top of mind. If I was so motivated by money, I would do a lot of the things. I do. I'm not motivated to make more money, but I think about money is safety. It's a safety to provide more time and freedom. It's a great way of looking at it. How is your ADHD, if at all, impacted your professional career or your financial decision making? My ADHD is a battle every day. Really? Yeah. You think it's a superpower? Or do you think it's a hindrance? Yeah. I just have to say the outro to this I have on my notes, we ended the last year's JTA with a

quote that said life is only about the people you love and who you're surrounded by. We've talked about the house. We've talked about the business. We've talked about the podcast. We've talked about everything. At the end of the day, my wife is outside. Your girlfriend dot, dot, dot, dot for right now is outside. We're still here five years kicking it.

And this podcast, this JTA we talked about, this is probably the least prepared, I think, either of us have maybe felt. And that's okay because our lives are evolving and they're growing and they're different. And I actually think that this JTA flowed more naturally. We had more confident answers. We're more sure of all the answers. There's less doubt. There's more certainty.

And I think that's a testament to those two beautiful women outside, our friendship, how it's grown, and also our listeners who have stayed with us. So thank you to the fans. Thank you to everybody. Thank you to the listeners for allowing us to do this. The greatest gift that I get in this podcast is to connect with you every week.

It's something that I wish I could do with all my friends. So that is my outro. That is a perfect outro. It's a privilege. It's an honor. You can't beat this stuff. It's awesome. I got to sign off as the host of Trading Secrets.

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