Trading Secrets - Jersey Shore’s Angelina Pivarnick dives into the highs and lows of Jersey Shore mayhem, her family dynamics, life on and off of reality TV, power of manifestation, and her various jobs in between!

Episode Date: February 12, 2024

This week, Jason is joined by reality TV personality that you all know from MTV’s Jersey Shore, Angelina Pivarnick! Angelina joined the cast of the hit reality show back in 2009 for the first two seasons of the show, and has since returned to the franchise spin-off Jersey Shore Family Vacation for the past six seasons. Although Angelina and the cast of the show received some criticism from media outlets everywhere, the group became a pop culture phenomenon with people all across the country. In fact, the show gained recognition internationally which resulted in 10 other countries creating their own version of the show over the years. Angelina has capitalized off of her success from the show with various brand deals, making appearances on other reality shows, and even pulling her entrepreneurial skills by creating her own false eyelash company.  Angelina gives insight to how taking a DNA test revealed family lies about who her real father is, what it was like meeting her biological father and the reveal of having a whole other family to get to know, how she feels about the villain arc she has been given on Jersey Shore and how it impacted her opportunities, working as a dental assistant, her wild resume, and the impact of when she left Jersey Shore before returning for Family Vacation. Angelina also reveals what her first big purchase was after hitting rock bottom, what financial lessons she learned during her divorce, why she bought her house under an LLC, how she was able to raise her rates as Jersey Shore continued to grow, how crucial Jersey Shore has been to American pop culture, the power of manifestation, her tips for manifestation, and what she has coming down the pipeline.Why did she leave Jersey Shore? What was her biggest low? Did she get paid for her wedding from MTV? What is her prediction for Jason?  Angelina reveals all that and so much more in another episode you can’t afford to miss!  Host: Jason Tartick Co-Host: David Arduin Audio: Declan O’Connell Guest: Angelina Pivarnick Stay connected with the Trading Secrets Podcast!  Instagram: @tradingsecretspodcast  Youtube: Trading Secrets Facebook: Join the Group All Access: Free 30-Day Trial  Abilitie has published The 12-Week MBA, a mini MBA curriculum for aspiring and rising business leaders. Buy the book and enroll in the 12-week program using code TRADINGSECRETS for $200 off your tuition.  https://www.abilitie.com/12weekmba

Welcome back to another episode of trading secrets. I can barely talk because I am doing this right here, right now, live coming from encore to the rewired headquarters in a Chevy suburban, watching the miserable Kansas City Chiefs win again. I'm jealous. I'm envious. I hate them, but I respect them. Congratulations to all the Kansas City fans.

Taylor Swift, Travis Kelsey and Patrick Mahomes. Y'all are icons. One day, baby, one day. Well, let's talk about our guest today. It is going to be Angelina from Jersey Shore. This one is a wild one. So buckle up because, like she says, she is lightning in a bottle. And let me tell you, she is lightning.

in a bottle. Here's a little trading secret for you. This past week, Thursday, I played in a celebrity sweat game. Pauli D. was on the other team. They actually filmed part of an episode of Jersey Shore at the game, and the whole Jersey Shore cast was there, and I don't know what happened, but after it, they came to me and I had to sign some sort of release to be on the show. So I don't know. You guys will have to stay tuned for that. But this episode is going to be one you can't afford to miss. Now, if you haven't grabbed a copy of Talk Money, to me make sure you grab a copy right now we are about to announce our tour it will be eight stops and a massive title sponsor so that is coming soon i'm going to give you one quick financial

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I'll teach you how to invest, budget, save, learn how to build individual wealth. And if you're in a relationship, wealth with your partner as a unit. But that said, before we get into Angelina's episode with the Jersey Shore premiere coming this week, I got a car full of some beauties right here. I got John Gurney music. I got Evan Matthew Sard. I got Justin Glaze and Susie Evans. Guys, you're what we're going to do.

I'm going to pass this phone around. And I want you to give your high, high, and your low, low from the last three days of Super Bowl. We're going to start with you, John Gurney Music. You're high, high, and you're low, low. What do you got for all the trading secrets, buddy mafia listeners out there? Today, players tailgate was blown away. Absolutely incredible. We had 17 Michelin star chefs, a bunch of NFL football players, great.

day had a good time and a good kickoff for the for the weekend your send off yeah and your low low uh probably tonight i'm i'm doing a full send that's a low all right also johnny may or may not have written a song based on this weekend so more to come on that just a little teaser evan matthew michael saar give me your high high and your low low from super bowl weekend super bowl weekend was when i the high was when I touched down in Las Vegas, the minute I touched down, we got the call. Jason alluded to it a little bit earlier on this intro, but we locked in a massive title sponsor for the book tour. That's going to come soon, so stay tuned to hear that.

The low-low has been getting the two hours and 14 minutes average of sleep in the past four days, so we're going to have to work on that, but let's get one more night going. I don't know if I got one more night in me. I think I left it all out on the field, but now you guys remember. Remember, you heard the best episode of Training Secrets History with Justin Glaze and Susie Evans. Justin, give me the high and the low of Super Bowl weekend. What do you got? Man, high, high has got to be live painting at the player's tailgate today.

Had a blast. Shout out to you guys for hooking that up. Low, low, low is that this is my last night with you guys. Just kidding, I don't like you guys that much. Sorry. Oh, you can swear on this podcast. Okay. Yeah, no, I love you guys.

guys. Ah, that's awesome. All right. Well, thank you for that. That's a high, high, low, low. Justin is going, you guys have seen Justin paint. I think you're going to see a whole different side of his career. And you sold that painting for over almost a couple grand. Yeah. Yeah, we talk money here, $1,750. That's right. And that is going to be the cheapest painting you ever sell. Susie, high, high, and low, low. Okay. My high would be probably just spending time with amazing people this weekend. And then my low would have to be the nap I took during the third quarter of the Super Bowl today. But I do feel a lot better.

So maybe it wasn't such a low. Oh, that is awesome. We are trading all secrets here, finance, life, personal, and professional. This Uber driver is unbelievable. But let me tell you what's even better this episode with Angelina. So let's ring in the bell with the one and only Angelina from Jersey Shore. Welcome back to another episode of Trading Secrets. Today I'm joined by reality TV personality that you all know from MTV.

TV's Jersey Shore. Angelina Pavarnik, but soon to be, Angelina Conti, we will talk about that. Angelina joined the cast of the hit reality show back in 2009 for the first two seasons of the show and since returned to the franchise spin-off, Jersey Shore Family Reunion for the past six seasons. Although Angelina and the cast of the show

received some critiques from media outlets everywhere, the group became a pop culture phenomenon not with people across the country. In fact, the show gained recognition internationally so much that 10 other countries, that's insane. Ten other countries created their own version of the show. Over the years, Angelina has capitalized off of her success from the show with various brand deals, making appearances on other reality shows, and even pulling out her

entrepreneurial skills by creating her own false eyelash company. But today, we are going to discuss everything and anything, Jersey Shore, all the stops in between and everything else. Angelina, thank you so much for being on Trading Secrets. Thank you for having me. You know what? It was tough to track you down. We actually had a schedule before.

This is our second attempt here. This is a second attempt. You are a busy girl with a lot going out. You are too, so I'm glad that we actually got to finally do this. You think I'm a busy girl with a lot going on? Well, a guy. But we were both so busy. And last time, I'm so sorry about that.

Oh, there's nothing to be sorry about. I'm just happy we're here. Yes. We're here now and we're doing it. But you got a lot going on. Let's actually kick off with some of the stuff that's happened. recently. I talked about it in the intro. So Angelina Pavarnik, Angelina Conti, and there's discussions about the fact that through a DNA test, you had found out that for 37 years,

you had thought that your father was someone who it isn't. Tell us a little bit just about that. So I was lied to for 37 years. I felt different than my two sisters, the way that my father would treat me. It was just very apparent that something was wrong. And my friend bought me a DNA test for a gift. I think it was for Christmas. For what reason? I don't know. She just gives that to people. I'm like, okay. So like I, listen, it came in handy though. So the craziest, freakiest thing about all this is that I sent it out. It never made it to the lab. Now I was married at the time. It's like God didn't want it to get there at that time because I was still married going through my shit. Okay. And then I had contact.

the company to give me a replacement. They sent it to my house. And I moved to another house. Okay. In the midst of going through a divorce and everything, and I put it in a draw. But every time I would open that draw, I would just like keep looking at me and looking at me.

It's like, take it, take it. And I'm like, I fucking probably won't even get there anyway. Am I let's curse on this thing? Oh, you curse his way. Okay. I didn't know. So I'm like, it's probably not going to get there again. So like I was kind of discouraged, but I took it.

All of a sudden, at 5-something in the morning, I get like a ding on my phone. And my sister, Alyssa, gets up for the gym at 6 in the morning. So I told her to open it up because she wasn't on my family tree. Yeah. She decides to log back into it. It says half-sister. Oh. She had no clue.

And then I have another sister. She had no clue either. My mother still hasn't spoken to me. I don't know why. Since you took the test? Yeah. She won't speak to me. She's like hiding from me.

She's putting on Facebook that the truth will come at. What truth? Like, the truth is that you lied to me. Yeah. For what reason? I don't know. I mean, my father was in jail when I was born. Well, the father I thought was my father.

And I think that in 1986, back in the day, you can get out of jail quicker if you had a child. Okay. So I was basically used. Oh, my gosh. I was 18 months old when he found out about me. I am so sorry. Yeah. And the reason I kicked off with that, because of course, everyone knows business, career,

navigation podcast. But the reason I kicked off with this because a theme in your life is especially lately is you've had to have these setbacks, but these setbacks, you're still progressing at a fast speed with your career. How did something like this impact just your overall disposition with work and finances and money? How does it connect or does it not? It definitely connects. And it sent me back so much. Like I was in a deep, I still kind of am a little bit depressed a little bit. But at that point, I was in a very deep depression and, like, I wouldn't get out of bed. And it was, it was hard. It was, it definitely, it still takes a toll on me. I mean, to figure that out, it's at 37 years. And then, like, not have anybody come to me and say, hey, listen, this is why I did this or, like, this is why this happened. And, like, blaming me for wanting to find out who my real, my biological father is. Like, my two sisters are mad at me. Like for wanting to meet my sister and wanting to get to know my other sister because I have a 26-year-old sister. Wild. Absolutely. Wow. And I have to imagine with that type of storyline, TV's got to be wanting a piece of this. So it does have to connect with work in some capacity. I would assume.

We've been filming stuff like this. Okay. So more to come on all this stuff. Okay. Talk to me about your father. Have you met your father, Mr. Conti? Yeah, I have actually. Okay. And how was that interaction? Why not? I just, I just didn't picture it that way. I just pictured it so different. They always say like a woman needs her father, right, in her life. Yeah. Because without a male figure growing up as a kid, and I literally say this as a child. And my therapist, because I go to a therapist, I think everybody should go to therapy.

I think it's great. So I totally believe in it. They always say, you need your father. There's like a guy, like a man needs his mom. And his father. We need both parents, basically. It would be great if we could all have both parents, right? Right.

But life doesn't work like that. So you have to tune in for the new season, like, that's going to air soon because they actually, like, stopped it with me finding out because we hired a genealogist. Okay. Mike and Vinnie hired her, and she's amazing. She's like, I never, I never not hit. Like, I find these people, and she worked with Oprah and all this. Wow.

So that's how the season finale ends is that we found your first. father. Interesting. You have a grandmother. She's 84 years old. You have a sister that's 26. When I heard about my sister, that's when I like literally was like, like that's, I'm like going in tears right now. Because I was like, oh my God, like, like I have a younger sister. Like, like I could actually have a relationship with her. Sure. And then I found out about my aunt, which I met her first. Amazing. She has like a million Yorkies too. She loves animals. I met my cousin. I have like, she adopted eight children. They're very. really nice people. As far as my father, I can't really say much, but it's a long road. It's a long

road. Yeah. Well, let's let's take it back to some advice you give people back home that have personal struggles right now. You had a divorce. You had this. This is a lot to deal with, but you still have to film. You still have to do all your work. And you still have. And you have. What advice would you give for people back home? They're struggling in their personal life, but have to keep moving forward with their career. You know, the producers are really amazing that work with me. They have been really pushing me. Like, Inge, like, let's come on, let's get it. Let's do it. Like, it's been so hard for me. Like, so hard. Because I, at one point, I wasn't able to keep going because of the depression and the anxiety and all that. But I have to say, like,

keeping good people around you is really what matters, I have to say. Because if you don't have good people around you, people that just want shit from you, it's not going to be good. Got it. Okay. All right. Find your support system. Right. Like, You need a great support system. Yeah. Have you think, I had a question right lined up, but you said something big. Do you think in your life you've been used? Do you feel like that?

Oh, 100%. For money, fame, what do you tell me more? 100%. Really? I mean, us being in the situation that we're in and like where we are in life, I think. You have a target on your back, kind of? Yes. Do you believe that about yourself?

I just don't trust anyone anymore, which is an issue. It takes so much for me to trust someone, I think. It's very bad for me. Yeah. It's done worse. You've been in a much larger scale in many more years, so I can imagine the stories run far and deep. The stories are crazy. I can go all day with them. Your head would spin. Okay. Maybe we'll have to do that next time back. Exactly. But until that, let's talk about this. You already mentioned it next season. You teased it.

We found out last week that you guys got renewed for season seven of Jersey Shore family vacation. So tell me a little bit about that. Was there any hesitation that the season wouldn't get renewed? You knew for sure. We all knew for sure. How is that? Listen, we're lightning in a bottle. Literally. Like, when you get us all together, I mean, this is what it is.

Like, you really can't capture that twice. I'm sorry to say it. Like, and I'm not trying to be cocky or whatever. But I really do believe we are lightning in a bottle. We always say it. When you get us all in a room, magic happens. Yeah. And that's what the producers say too.

Yeah. I don't know what it is about us, but, like, me and Vinny's banter, like, how we just go at each other. It just comes, like, naturally. Yeah. We're a family. We just go through it. And we literally have become a family after all these years. I mean, it's been 14 years.

And you guys have become a family, and you've each become stars and massive successes in kind of your own right, in different capacities. But there's also been different perceptions of, like, the hero and the villain. And I think if you look at the past six season, don't steal my question. You look at the past six seasons, you've gotten a little bit of, I won't say tough at it, but kind of like a villain type character. Does that ever have you wondering if you should come back? Or do you just love being in that role? You know what?

I have to say, I used to have a very bad villain edit years ago. Like when social media wasn't around. was when I wasn't able to tell my story. Yeah. But now Mike and I like, like toe to toe, you know, both kind of villains of which, whatever, we just, it just happens. Yeah. I don't really, I don't consider myself a villain. I think a lot of people nowadays are like Team Angelina, like, because they see what I go through.

Like, they understand where I'm coming from in a lot of situations. And social media is like my platform to, if something is not the way I said something. something or whatever. Not like that, but I'll come out and say, hey, listen, I'm upset about this. Yeah. And I want to speak to the fans about this. You know. You could have your own direct communication without any edits of your interpretation for context, right? Do you think we have had CEOs, some of the largest agencies come on this show, and they talk a little bit about what people would get paid based on how their social media is rated. For example, if you have like an R-rated influencer, they're not going to get the largest ticket items from Fortune 500 companies. But

like if you have a G-rated influencer, they will because there's less risk in working with them. I want to connect that to your world. Do you think being a villain, even though you've like kind of changed the tune, do you think that helps or hurts how much you get compensated? Well, I have to say I started DJing and I've always wanted to do that. Not saying it's hard to get booked. but it's hard to take off, you know what I'm saying? And I think it's because a lot of people like, is she reliable? You know, and I think they look at being the villain on a reality show

as is she reliable? Will she show up? Is she going to do the damn thing? Sure. You know, and that's the only thing I have to say about that. But I don't mind it being on the show in that case because we're doing amazing and we're making money. We're making amazing television.

Yeah. And I like to, like, stir the pot a little bit. Yeah. So, like, and Mike does too, and he knows it. And we just, we just know what the fuck to do. I don't know. Whatever you're doing, it's working. And you know what?

It is working. Just keep doing what you're doing. Well, you got renewed for season seven. Everyone stay tuned to that. You already got a little bit of tease of what's coming. And for all my MTV producers, listen to this. We are going to be very, very sympathetic to the contract. So I'm going to be very careful with my questions here.

Yes. Okay. So all my MTV guys. back there. I promise we are going to behave. Let's roll it back, though, before season one of Jersey Shore, which obviously changed your life. What were you doing for work? So I worked at a dental office and I was a dental assistant and I was a bartender. Interesting. I'm having a tough time picturing you as a dental assistant. Was your dream to be like a hygienist? What was your career dream before Jersey Shore came? I just wanted to just work at a dental office and I got hired and I was his right-hand man

and I was amazing at my job. How old were you when you got that job? I think I was. So wait, it's funny. I went, I did Jersey Shore. Yep. I left on my own and then I went back to dental assisting. Interesting.

So they're like, so like the show is airing and they're like, wait, what the fuck? The girl's like in our office and like she's like famous now. Like because the show beat like blew up. Why is this chick from Jersey Shore flossing my teeth right now? They're like this girl literally suctioning my mouth. It's the funniest thing ever. Unbelievable. Let's we talk money here.

and I know we can go here with this. Dental hygienist, how much do you make? I think I could have made more, but I think I was making a decent amount because I was his right-hand man. Like 40K a year type thing? Something like that. Okay.

So with my age, I think it was a right, right? Yeah, that's great. It's not something from, you know. But you go to then become like a star. Yeah. Right? Season one, you guys blow the hell up. I know we can't get into specific dollars, but is it fair to say you're making a lot more

on season one of Jersey Shore, even without it being established, than a hygienist or no? No. Season one, we really didn't make money and everybody knows that. Because we all said that. Okay.

So I'm allowed to say that. So you're not breaking any news here. Okay. So that's why you went back to being a hygienist. Well, I went back for season two, and then that's when I left again. So I left twice.

Yeah. And for any misconceptions out there, you were never let go. You left. They didn't want me to leave. Okay. They like begged me to stay. So why?

You were a hygienist. You got MTV at your front door. You're crushing it. Your career can take off in a direction. You may be never saw possible. Why do you leave that? Over a guy. Okay, got it.

Stupid me. This is why you don't ever do that for a relationship. So the guy wanted you to leave? He was very mad about me living in a house with other men. Understood. And do you have any regret about that decision? Hell yeah. Am I with that guy anymore?

No, he's married with like 25 kids in like Long Island somewhere. Like I was the beetle that left. Got it. Okay. Like literally. And everyone says it, and I say it myself, I was the beetle that left. And it sucks because I did lose out on millions. You lost out on millions from leaving, eh? Yeah. Okay. And they didn't want me to go. She said, don't go. All right. I always try to give advice for the people that are listening. Right now, someone's listening. There's significant others trying to steer their career, maybe for insecurities or things like that. What advice do you give them? What do they do? Hell no. Do not listen to them. Like, literally, if you have kids and you're married, I mean, it's like a little bit harder. But I feel like everyone should be supportive of each other, like what they want to do in their lives. Yeah. And I've run into a lot of that.

Like, where, like, the guy is like, I'm so supportive comes on the show and then, like, is pissed off that, like, I'm on the show and, like, doesn't want me to do it anymore. Yeah. And it's, it's just been just a crazy, like, fuck. I'm just like, wait, what? And, like, you're on the show, too. Like, why are you mad? But I should have never left, and I would definitely give this type of advice. Don't ever, like, steer away from what you want to do in your life.

Understood. Run your direction. Run it the way you want. Find a partner. You have one life to support you. You only have one life. Yeah, and it goes quick, huh? Literally.

It goes so quick. So fast. All right, but then you rejoin season two. So you go from Hygienist to season one. Back to Hygienist. You rejoin season two. What made you rejoin? It blew up.

It's okay. So you're like, I better, I better jump on this train because it's moving fast. And there was like money involved this time. Yeah. So I was like, all right. And I miss, you know, the cast. I, like, I wanted to see if we were going to be okay because I think they were a little bit upset with me that I left, which is understandable because they didn't want me to leave. And I wanted the whole thing again with them.

So I went to Miami and I filmed literally almost the whole time. I left one week shy of rep. interesting why why why but why because I'm an idiot was it another guy no it was because I was young and stupid and I wasn't getting along with Mike okay I say this to his face and all the time and I had to leave it was too much for me okay it was he was going through his stuff yeah do you when you when you leave and you finish the job do you still get paid I basically lost out on a car So like, yeah

Okay, so you get paid but you lost out on the car Yeah, for the episodes I wasn't in You won't get paid for that Got it. And why did you leave the second time? I have to say, Mike and a couple of things happening in the house And it was not about another guy. Wasn't about a guy.

What type of work did you go to after you left the second time? Bartending and dental assisting again. Okay. I also read that there was EMT work in your world. Yes, that came later on though. That came later on. Yeah.

You have a wild resume, Angelina. I do. A wild, wild resume. I took a hiatus, you know, because the show also took a hiatus. Yeah, it did. So the show went off the air for a while after season six. Okay. Now we're like, look at us right now.

Family vacation is going to seven. So now we're already surpassing. You're surpassing what you were doing then. No, like Jersey Shore. Yeah, correct. The original show. Yeah. The original. How crazy.

So season one, you go on, you come off. Season two, you go on and you're off. Do you get asked back? season, any other seasons? Do you go on another? No, because Dina replaced me. Okay. So Dina replaces you. Yeah. Don't go on any other seasons. You're watching them go to the moon. I actually showed up to a club one night when they were there. And I was like, hey, what's up guys? Unbelievable. I was like so mad that I did this again. Yeah. I was like, idiot. But you're seeing them make as much money as they are. And now you're bartending. What was that like for you career and financially?

So hard for me to watch that. Literally like the beetle that left. Were they open about talking? talking about their finances? Like, were you still friends with them or no? They cut me off. They cut you off. Yeah. Why? Because you just weren't part of the cool club anymore. They said I talk shit. Like, you know, it was just like, it was just like, he said, she said, I'm just like, whatever. And we lost touch for a long time. And that's why when I got the chance to come back for a family vacation, they said to me, do you want the good news or bad news? And I was like, give me the bad news. They're like, we don't want to pet you. I'm like,

I'm allowed to say this because this was my journey, like this part. Yeah. I said, what's the good news? They're like, we want to see how you do. Okay. I was like, all right, let me think about it. So I thought about it and I was like, let's do it. Wow.

Good for you. I went back to see them again. It wasn't about the money because I didn't get paid. So, okay, I'd love to take life experiences and bring it back to, you know, whoever it might be, Lauren in, I don't know, Indianapolis. do you have a suggestion for people? Like if you want a shot at something, do it unpaid? Like, do you have a theory behind that? I mean, look at me. For example, I literally was like, all right, I'm not going to get paid and I know they're getting paid, but this is how I'm going to get

my foot back in the door. Yeah. So you got your foot back in the door. The following season did you get paid? Yes. Okay. And it was pretty good payday. I mean, I had to work. Listen, I had to work my way. It was more than the dental hygienist salary or a bartender. salary? Yes. Okay. Or an EMT's salary? A hundred percent. Okay. So at least... I'm so sorry, but they should be paid way more for what they do. They do God's work. All right, but this is, I'm trying to imagine myself. 2012 to 2018, I'm on a show with these girls and guys. They become international superstars in multi-millionaires. And then when the show ends, they still have different appearances and cameos and showing up at clubs, you're grinding as a bartender. Tell me about like,

crazy. Tell me about the financial aspect of Angelina in that time and the mental aspect of dealing with your peers that hit the lottery while you're still working for tips as a bartender, which God bless you, but it's just what you're seeing on the other side, what could have been. I mean, listen, I've always been a hustler. I have to say that about myself. I always made great money being a bartender because I would always flirt with the guys. I'm like, always hit me a lot. So I was very blessed in that aspect. But yes, seeing them make all that money and then I was not. It did hurt a lot, you know, but I have to blame myself because I left. All right. Tell me about a financial, maybe a financial low through that journey. So you're

living a lot of financial highs now. You're having success. But in that journey from 2012 until you get paid again from Jersey short, let's say 2019. Is there any? story that you can come back to as it relates to. I don't know. Maybe it's a big bill you got you couldn't afford or a learning lesson you had as it relates to finances. I mean an apartment. I had to get my own apartment. But it was crazy because I was always able to pay my bills and go out and have a social life. But again, it was like I did lose out on all that money. But I remember at one point I was in between apartments and I didn't have an apartment to go to. So my aunt took me in.

Okay. So that was like a low. Like me and my dog peanut were like homeless in my car. Okay? And I'm like, damn, I hit rock bottom. Like this sucks, you know? And then yeah, I mean, I hustled. I hustled.

I worked a lot on the weekends. I worked on the weekdays. And I just tried my best. To get an apartment in Staten Island was hard as fuck. Sure. Yeah. Anywhere to get an apartment. Thank God I own a house now.

Like, geez, I don't have to bother. anybody and that was low that was a big low for me living in my car with peanut yeah that's why i love my dog so much because she was like ride or die like mommy i don't give a shit yeah i'm here for you let's go riding around i don't care like you know peanut in a car that's just trying to figure it out every my car was packed out like unbelievable i have an image in my head now you got a very nice home and you and peanut are living the dream talk to me about this you renegotiate your contract. Just tell me how the contract negotiations were different from when Jersey Shore originated. Like at this point, do you have a manager? Do you have an agent? Are you negotiating yourself?

They didn't pay you the first time you come back. How do you even know where to start? Just walk me through that. So the first time I did this on my own because I knew I wasn't going to get paid. So I didn't need a lawyer for that. The second, I hired James Leonard, which also reps Teresa from housewives. I love him. I've known him for years. He's helped me out in so much. many ways. He's like family to me. So he negotiated season two. And he negotiated season three. Okay. And so on and so on. He's still my guy. Okay. Can you, and if you can't tell me this, just say pass and I will respect you and the MTV world. The question is, do you negotiate a dollar amount per season or do you negotiate a dollar amount per episode? Like how does the, can you,

per episode? Okay. Do you guys talk at all about how much each other makes? We're all joined. So you all make the same. Interesting. Okay. I'm going to give you that because I don't think anybody knows that. Okay. We'll take a little something. You know? Yeah. I'll give that to you. Okay. And listen, that's great, right? Yeah. That's huge. That's amazing. It's amazing. It's called favor nation. I don't know. Do you know that? Yes. Yes. And that we're all. Okay. And then there's also, I mean, the big part of this show is financial transparency. This is transparency. Transparency be what you make. Your team, let's do it. Let's all get renewed and rip it again. Right. Yes. Okay. So now you're starting to make.

some big bucks. You go from bartending to dental hygienist work to grinding in ambulances, living in your car with peanuts. Now you're making a couple bucks. What is the first, like, big thing you bought once you got the payday? A house. That was your first big purchase? Yep. That was what I bought. Obviously, I bought it with my ex. And then when we got divorced, we sold it. But the next big thing I bought was this house right now that I'm living in. I bought it by myself. Okay. So now you got your own place. Under my LLC. Very, okay. We'll talk about that in a second because that's a business move right there. That was a business move.

But I have to go back to, you mentioned it, your divorce, you guys had a home. I just wrote a book about love and money, talk money to me. Are there any financial lessons that you learned through going through a divorce with someone when it connects love and money? And if so, what would those be? I can go for hours about this, okay? Well, give me just a little bit. A pre-op is not, it's not ironclad.

Okay. Did you have a prenup? I did, but him and his mom disposed of it. So when you say you had a pre- He never sent it to my lawyer. Okay, so you put a pre-num for him to sign or he gave you a pre-num for you to sign, or was it just a... It was both. Okay. So you both had your own assets. You get this pre-nup. You execute it. He didn't actually sign it.

He never sent it in. But he told you he sent it in. Yeah, and then the lawyer never reached out to me for a whole year. So I'm thinking I had a pre-nup the whole time. You think you have a pre-num in place and you have nothing in place? Fucking nothing in place. Like, I'm like, so now I'm like up Schitt's Creek right now. You also have a lot of issues with mail, I feel like.

I know. Like, things get sent and they come back. Like, what's up with that? I don't know. But let me tell you the biggest thing. Yeah. What my divorce lawyer taught me. She's awesome too.

Literally mid-marital agreement. Do you know what that is? Yes. Well, there's post-nump and there's pre-num. So you can do a post-nump after you're married. That's the biggest thing. Yeah. That's better than a pre-num.

Interesting. Okay. Because the pre-ups, say I met, like, say we got married, I'm sorry. You can now, you can now contest my, like, our pre-up and be like, no. But now if I have you sign a mid-marital agreement, a post-nop, is that what you call it? Yeah, post-nop. That goes under there. Now, that is like, no. Yeah. You cannot, you cannot contest that.

Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I had him sign that. Yeah. Interesting. Okay. And how'd that go? And plus he works in New York. Okay. So he wasn't able to take my house in Jersey. Interesting.

I was like, thank fucking God. Because he works sanitation. Yeah. And you're not allowed to live in Jersey. Interesting. Okay. Was there any big financial losses that you had to deal with from that divorce that could have been prevented? He tried to sue me for our wedding money.

Okay. And I was like, so corny. Like, take the fucking 22 grand, bro. Like, you need to. it more than me. So did you write him a check or what? I wrote him a check. Like, my lawyer was like, it was literally, if you Google this shit right now, it's like, like he's suing her for the wedding gifts. It's like the wedding gift. Like, what? Yeah. We didn't even fucking last for like two years. Yeah. Interesting. And then the wedding was amazing because MTV did that for us. Yeah. And like,

you paid shit. Yeah. So like, listen, take the money. Yeah. Sianara. Yeah. Laser. Good riddance. Okay. I don't know if you can answer this. if you can't, just hit the pass button. Look at your face? He's like, oh, my God. But if Evan's laughing, no, it's a good one. No, I don't give a shit. Just funny.

All right, let me ask you this. I'm honest. Did you get paid for your wedding? Like, does the network pay to do your wedding, or is it just you're paid per episode? They get tradeouts. Okay, tell me more. I obviously filmed four episodes. We had a four-episode wedding special.

Yeah. So, of course, I'm going to get paid episodically for that. Yeah. But I'm just wondering, do you get paid in any more? Is it's your wedding? No. Okay, that makes sense. No, I didn't expect that.

Yeah, yeah. You know, they did so much for me. Yeah, yeah. I just wish it wasn't wasted on somebody like that. Yeah. Unfortunately, I'm not trying to be mean. Yeah. I always want to talk good about X's.

Like, I don't want to talk shit. Yeah. But there's been a lot of stuff lately that has come out. And I can't speak about it, but it's just like the double life and things I didn't know about him. And if I would have known that, then there could have been another guy that could have, had that beautiful wedding. Totally. Is what I'm trying to say.

I see what you're saying. I'm sorry that you can deal with that. But you got through it and then you bought your own house under an LLC. For someone back home that's saying like, what the hell does she mean? Like I want to learn business-wise what that means. Explain to people like, why did you buy it under an LLC and what that exactly means for people that don't know? First of all, I didn't want anybody to know where the hell I lived and then they found out anyway. How do they find that out?

I don't know. They like, they just figured it out. And then there was- Do people show up to your house? Always driving slow on my brain camera. I'm like, oh, there's another one. Like, do you go out and like flick them off? Do you say hi?

No, I'll say hi. Like, I just DJed my whole entire development's Christmas party. Oh, that's cool. It was fun. All right. We're all watching out for each other. You're friendly to the passengers that walk down. We have cops driving up and down that shit.

Like, we don't play around in that in our development. Okay, got got mafios up in that shit. Like, I'm not getting. Oh, but what was I saying? Yeah, LLC. Yeah. The reason why I did that was. I was told, go off a bit, somebody slips on your property.

Sure. You're protected. Yeah. Okay. Got it. So it's a liability thing. Correct. Yeah.

That makes sense. You get an umbrella policy. Someone's trying to sue you. You're covered. You're good. Outside of the show, are you allowed to sell your name image likeness? Can you do your own branding? Can you start your own businesses?

Is there anything that must go back to the show, anything like that? So you have freedom to do your thing? If we're going to do like a flyer and stuff, like... What's a flyer? Just like a flyer. I'm DJing somewhere, and it says, like, the Jersey Shore logo, they don't really want that. Yeah. Which I understand.

Okay. So I have to kind of switch it around. Yeah. But other than that, no, like, they don't really want me to do other shows on different networks. Of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I understand that, too. But you did.

I did when. The Chad, didn't you do, you just did a challenge show. Oh, that was through MTV. Yeah, because at Sally and Susano, she owns the Jersey Shore franchise. Okay. All Star Shore. I did it was Blake and Gianina. Yeah.

How'd you do on that show? I think I did. So until I landed in the hospital, I was like, I think I would have won. Yeah. Literally, they were like, you were going to win. Interesting. And the guy wanted me to win. Okay.

I think we're going back. Yeah. Because Vinny just did it actually. Interesting. I heard Vinny did it. They're pregnant now. Oh, that's, I know. Oh, Mom and Dad are pregnant.

A little shout out to Blake and Giannina. Yeah, I love that. All right. Let me ask you this. How do you, well, you're definitely not getting paid the same as everyone else on that show. We all know that, right? You're the top dog coming in here from the top reality show. Yeah. How do you know what to negotiate for something like that? For that, it was like the first season. So I just literally was like, whatever. Okay. So then he made more. Oh, he did? So you talk about it.

Yeah, I talked about it. I'm like, you asshole. You fucking made more. Do you know how much more or no? I don't know. He won't tell me. Do you think it was like double? Probably triple. like you and then he didn't have to live in the villa either i'm like thanks fucking a lot and then he got his phone yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i had my phone taken from me wow but i loved living with them so don't get me wrong he had all these little nuances in his contract he got to be the star you had to blend in with i was a guinea pig that i'm you're a guinea pig with blake from bachelor's no no angelina i was happy to be with them really i didn't mind living with them they're great all right let's do this because i know i can't get any numbers from you

but I know this you could share because it's your personal thing. Suppose you were DJing. It's the first season of Jersey Short, first season. So there's not much, not much like clout there. Someone wants to. Is it season big? No, it's, let's go back. It's season one.

It's season one. So you know the speed at which it grew. Season one, it ends. You're DJing and a club wants to hire you to DJ. How much are you charging them after season one? This is 2009, everybody. Hmm. Five grand. Okay. After season two, how much you charge it? Oh, that shit went up. 25 grand. 25 grand. And I was charging just like hosting. And I was making that. Yeah. That's another thing that was really holding me up financially. I forgot to say that. I was doing so many hosting gigs. You were still getting gigs even though you were on the show anymore. Okay, making what, like 25 a clip?

And I was able to do it. And I was able to do it because I wasn't on the contract anymore. So you're doing like premiere parties and all that stuff. Everywhere. Okay. Make in 10 to 25K. A lot. A clip. Okay. Then I'm going to guess like 2016, 2017, it's probably dying down a little bit because the show hasn't

come back and they're all off contract so they can go do everything, right? Yeah. Okay. Now we get to 2019. Angelina. We want to hire her to DJ. Yeah. How much that could come?

So what did I just charge? So you're saying 20, like so not right now or you're saying 20? We're going to start. We'll go 19. Then we'll go to 19. 19 while 35 grand was not no we're back down to 10 grand we're going to go less we're going to be humble okay we want to go 10 grand okay 10 grand now let's fast forward you just got renewed to season seven i want to hire you to dj 2023 going in 24 angelina's popping she's turned from villain

to love team angelina how much 35000 35000 all right guys gives you an idea let's talk about this When you think about branding, a lot of shows don't make it. There's the old adage in reality TV. You got 15 minutes of fame and it's up. What do you think Jersey Shore and you guys as a group have done to be such a branding success? Like Harvard Business Case Study could like, they could analyze this and come up with what? Why is it? What is it?

We're in like the history books. Like in social studies books in like high schools. It's crazy. Isn't that nuts actually? Like America pop culture, you guys have. I know. I love that. Broke the blueprint for so many things. We just like literally got our own holiday too in Atlantic City.

You have your own holiday. Mm-hmm. Wow. What's it called? It's called. It's called Jersey. Jersey. What day is that?

March 23rd. That seems like a very bizarre day. I got a proclamation and shit. Wow. Yeah, from like the mayor of Atlantic City. It was the best day ever. Look at you now. It was, it was, it's very flattering.

It's, it's just, it's just like great to be part of this whole entire thing. But what is the it factor? It's just like, it's just like, it. Like I told you, if you were around, you would understand, like, I, if you actually, like, came and sat down and saw, like, how we interact with each other. Yeah. And, like, the storylines, like, we don't make this shit up. Like, especially me. Like, I don't have to make up storylines.

Like, they just come to me. Like, I don't ask for this shit. Like, I literally take a DNA test and it's like, bam. Like, what the fuck? Like, how does that even happen to somebody? Literally, she gets divorced. Mike's, like, trying to figure out why I'm getting divorced. close my act like it's a lot of drama

drama cells right do we agree on that oh yeah a lot of people do you agree on that I do but a lot of people want to say no yeah I see I don't I love I don't like drama I hate which is why I'm not good for no you love it but no I hate it but I love it because of because of the Reaper

success that comes with it when you were a kid were you like in this like if there was chaos were you part of the chaos I was very quiet like did you have like did you get detention suspension you kick out kicked out of class? No. Were you a troublemaker?

No, I was like the quiet person. So you were the quiet one that just went, you just went rogue when the cameras came out? I don't know what, I don't know what happened, but I went from like just this like quiet girl, like tomboy. Literally like the backpack,

they used to call me hunchback because like my backpack was like so heavy. And like I don't know what happened. I just like blossom and I was like, fuck this. Like I'm just going to be who I am. Yeah. And I'm not going to be quiet anymore.

Yeah. He's broke out of the show. I like personality just came out out of nowhere. Isn't it interesting when your personality comes out, the dollars cents and career success all followed? Plus manifesting. Yeah. You have to do that.

Okay. I was watching that, the podcast, the Countess, right? Yeah. I agree with so much. Okay. So what do you agree with about it? I manifest everything in my life. So what do you manifest?

I also have like such, I don't know if you, are you even think I'm crazy, like psychic abilities. Okay. Interesting. My grandmother has it. like also on the show like it's even Lana could tell you like literally we had legit no it's it scares a shit out of her like it's things that you'll never even think of can you tell me about my future should I do it I already did it I already told it last night would what'd you say you're going to move to New York wow in the next year eight months fuck interesting okay anything else I should

I see that okay I don't know why is that something you're trying to do talking about it Why is that? Because of the podcast. Is it because of... I think I've always wanted to live in New York. And my career has always been, especially before I went on reality TV, was always like I had to be where the office was. Now I don't, but also the career is benefiting, especially with the talent agents we run, being here. So it's kind of more of like a why not. And two, it would make professional and it would make personal sense. I think I'm happier here. I also want to say stuff off camera to you about stuff. I don't want to stay it on camera.

Okay. And we'll keep it like that. Okay. I think I'm right with some stuff. Okay. I think your mind's going to be blown. Interesting. All right, psychic abilities.

People back home that don't have psychic abilities, but they want to manifest. What advice would you give them? You have to manifest every day. Like, do you do that? But no, I don't. So we're sitting at home. Me, I'm sitting at home,

and there's a guy who does the recaps with me, one of my good friends, the curious Canadian. He's listening to this, right now. Give us a couple steps. How do we manifest? What do we do? Okay. So I think about what I want first, first and foremost. Got it. I want this. Okay. Now you think I have this already. Okay. Say it's, I want my own podcast. Right. You have to think that you already have it. And it's literally, it just happens. I'm making it shorter. But like, there's so much that goes into it. I believe

in it. Everything. I manifested that I was going to do this with you. Interesting. Like, I was like, I'm never going to do that. And then all of a sudden, I'm like, no, me and him are going to do this, like, right before the holidays. Did I not say that? And here we are. Huh. So you have to think about, okay, let's take the new. How crazy is that?

Because I felt bad. Like, that we didn't do it. Yeah, yeah. No, no worries. No, yeah. So let's give me the New York example. So in my head, I say, yeah, I'd like to live in New York. So I tell myself, I live in New York.

So even though I don't. You live here. So I'm like kind of lying to myself. No, you're not lying to yourself. No, you're not lying to yourself. You live here. You're a resident of New York City, baby. But I'm not.

But you are, though. See, my little logical fucked up brains having a tough time connecting the dots there. But that's why, like, you're not manifesting shit. Like, you have to literally want what you want and believe you have it already. And it's coming. Like, God's going to give it to you. Interesting. How about me being on the treadmill?

I'm going to go back a little bit. I was like, I want to go back on Jersey Shore. All of a sudden, I get fucking Sally and Sosanos call me. she's like, we're doing a reboot. Do you want to be part of it? I'm like, no fucking way. As you're on the treadmill. Yes.

Wow. I manifested. I'm like, it's happening. It's going to happen. I'm telling myself it's going to happen. And it happened. Damn. All right.

There's a little lesson I'm manifesting. David. In the recap, we're going to talk about manifesting. We're both going to give it a shot. All right. Let me ask you, who do you think from the show has changed the most when it comes to career and finances from Jersey Shore? I would have to say, Mike.

okay at polly too actually yeah polly is killing the whole DJ game i mean in Vegas it's insane he's such a nice guy yeah love going in his like have you ever went to one of his his gigs yeah i have did you meet him yeah we was sweetheart actually david the guy who does the recap it was his bachelor party me and david went back got to meet him his girlfriend right oh and nicky and cook and cook yeah yeah yeah they were great that's your bro yeah so So Polly's just a good guy. Okay. Just a great guy all around.

Mike, with his book right now, he's torn. He's like killing it. I mean, look, he really turned something that was so terrible into something amazing right now. So those are some of the people that have done a great job at growing their band. Who do you think has struggled with growing independent brand away from the show? I would say me because of everything that I went through. And I really have to focus. I think I know I'm a hustler and I know when I want something I'm going to get it.

But again, all this shit that has transpired over the last three years, it's really sent me back. So I would say me. So what's next for you then? The makeup brand that's coming out. Like I'm doing a whole brand, like a whole line now. I'm also going to do my own podcast. Okay. There you go.

I'm writing a book. I started writing it myself. And I'm going to start interviewing journalists. Okay. It's going to be a really good book. All right. It's going to be about everything. So makeup, book, podcast, all that.

that's coming. Manifesting it. Manifesting it. No, you already have it. I already have it. That's already there. That's right. I already have it. I already just took a page out of your book. All right, let's do that. A couple rapid fires, I'm going to ask you, you tell me who on the cast would be best. Here we go. Who on the cast would you love to start a business with? One person. I would say, Nicole. Okay. Who, if you took all their bank accounts and net worth, assets and everything, who do you think is the wealthiest? Polly, obviously. Obviously. Who do you think is the worst with their money when it comes to managing it, budgeting, et cetera.

I love you, Ron, but you're just, Ron. I love you, bro. All right. Who do you think has the best street smarts? I would say, May. And Jenny. And Jenny. Jay Wow is, she's amazing.

Jay Wow and Angelina. Who would you say has the best book smarts? Actually, I might play dumb, but I'm actually really smart. I've always been really book smart. You're an A student. I always, except for math. Okay. hate math. Can't do numbers. Don't bring that around me.

All right. Perfect show for you to be on. Who is the most competitive of the group? We all are. Oh, Jesus. There's got to be the one that's the Michael Jordan. Vinny is. I wouldn't expect that. Surprised by that. If he doesn't win something, he gets pissed.

Interesting. Temper tantrum. All right. And then let's say this is a good one of Jersey Shore. Who do you think is most likely to become the next president? Maybe Sammy Sweet or? I'm kidding. Sammy for president? Who do you think if there's one person who has the highest likelihood? Listen, Trump wasn't a reality show.

So who do you think would have the old? And then Nicole was on the one with Arnold Schwarzener right after. I was like, shit. Come on, give me one. Who do you think would be? I would have to say Mike, he's like the mayor of everywhere. So Mike. So I would say Mike.

He's good at that shit. All right. Well, this is the last segment we have before we get your trading secret. and it's a little bit from the Money Mafia. They all submitted questions. We're going to do rapid fire. These are direct from the Money Mafia. You're ready to go?

You can also say pass if you have to. Does the cast know how much the other cast members make? We all know. Okay. Did you lose a lot in your divorce? No, actually, I was very fortunate to not. Okay. Thank God.

This is a little personal, but do you plan on freezing your eggs? What does her journey look like for her? I love her. That's ALV, boom. I want to give her a shout out. I am going to. I have to do it. Now, because I'm going to turn in 38 in June.

Okay. I want babies. I do. I want two at least, or at least one. Okay. I love that. Do you, does the show pay for your vacations? They do.

Okay. Do they get paid for the first two seasons of Jersey Shore? You guys got paid, correct? The first season, we just got paid, like working in the t-shirt shop. Okay. Oh, I'm interested. Okay. Yeah.

This one's a personal one. You can definitely hit past. Have you hooked up with Vinny? Guantanino, of course. Okay. Your answer, Kristen DW5. Did MTV help you pay for your wedding with Chris? They had tradeouts, and I'm so blessed, and I thank them so much for that.

I mean, I'm just, like I said before, I really wish it was just, like, not wasted. I'm not saying it was wasted, but how do I say it in a better way? Like, I'm sorry to say that. I just wish it was with somebody I was with now. This is a good one. How do you deal with heat or criticism on the show and on social media? Any suggestions for people back home? Social media, if I see somebody's like really trying to be a troll, I will go back at them.

You'll just fire right back. But then sometimes I'm just like, they're not even worth it. Like, why even bother? Like, why waste my energy? Yeah. Why waste our energy on that shit? So just ignore the noise. Ignore.

Okay. Someone said, how much of your personality shown on this show is more of an act or just yourself? I don't, I don't switch a light switch on. I am my most authentic self. and I have to say that. What you see in real life is what you see on TV. Okay. One thing that you regret from the whole show

or how you handle conflict. I would have to say leaving twice. Leaving. Yeah. Okay. All right. We got one more. What was the casting process like?

I was in a nightclub one night. I remember me and my boyfriend broke up and my girlfriend's like, you're coming out. I went to a place in Brooklyn. I felt a tap on my shoulder. it was this girl. I'm like, oh shit, maybe I'm talking to her boyfriend. But she's like, hey, I'm a casting director. I think you're amazing. So many guys are around you. I think you'd be great for the show. I go in the back. They kicked us out of the back.

She gives me her business card. She's like, please come to Manhattan the next day. It ends up being CEG. Remember CET? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Agency. So I went up there and I saw all these beautiful girls. And back then, I'm not going to lie. I don't look like I look now. Like, I've grown into a woman. and, you know, you go through that, like, ugly duckling stage, you know, like, I was 21 years old. Sure, yeah. I come out, I'm like, there's all these beautiful blonde girls. I'm like, I ain't making this shit. But when I went on camera, I made the camera guy laugh so hard that he was, like, almost about to drop the camera.

So, all right, maybe I have a chance. Yeah. And me and Mike, we didn't tell anybody this, but we were kind of in cahoots. Okay. Because I knew Mike prior. Gotcha. So every time he would get a call, he's like, did you get the call? You'd be talking through it.

Like, did you get a call? and then, like, you put a good word in for me, thanks to Mike, and we made it. Wow, unbelievable. What if you didn't go to the bar that night? You ever think about that? I always think about that. And, like, thank God for my, like, high school friends. Yeah, and also, what were you doing that all the guys were... I always, like, just rolled with this beautiful group of girls and all the guys wanted us. Yeah, okay. And Brooklyn was the place to go.

There you go. Yeah. And the rest is history. All right, Angelina. We got to end with a trading secret. It's been a jam-packed episode with a lot of less rights and ups and downs. It's kind of your journey. But one trading secret, we can't get into textbook. We can't learn from a professor or get through a TikTok tutorial. We could only get through you. Angelina Pavarnik, soon to be Conti.

What is your trading secret? Just be yourself and just go for it. Like go for whatever you want in life. I feel like life is short. We only have one life. And my thing is just from now on for me, especially, I'm just gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna hustle more than I ever have, ever. Gotcha. Well, keep hustling. I think a trading secret I'm gonna take is maybe embrace the drama.

I usually run from it. Maybe embrace it. Maybe embrace it. It's just like it creates, it feels like it creates unnecessary stress and stress kills. But if you don't let the stress bother you, you just take it as like whatever, then it would be fine. Like, all right. Just let it just, All right. There's a lesson on sitting in the chaos, embracing the chaos, and definitely manifesting. I'm joking. So more to come. Here we go. Angelina, thank you so much for me on trading secrets. Where can people find everything you got going on? Just Instagram. I'm going to be posting everything coming out. Like I said, I'm writing the book, podcasts. I just love that you have a podcast. I love that you're doing this. Thank you. I look at somebody like you, and I'm like, wow, like,

you know, you're doing it. You know, I think Vinny's doing it now. Mike did it. And I think a lot of people want to hear what I have to say. So I'm excited about that. Podcast is coming and you're manifesting. It's going to be called, I'm hello. What's it going to be called?

I'm hello. Hello. That's my saying on the show. Yeah, I know. So like, that's the best, I don't even know. That's, that's it. How did you come up with your name? Trading secrets?

Yeah. I just thought about like, what are we trying to do finance, but also it meets pop culture. So in like the world of finance, a trading secret gives you the inside scoop. I love that. So I'm trying to get the inside scoop from the people as it relates to their finance career track or, you know, getting divorced or having name changes. And now you're going to do love. So that's going to be perfect. You put that in there. There you go. Love money and all the things. Perfect. Like your book. Like my book. Can't wait to see it. Thank you, Angelina. Thank you for being on Trang Secrets. Ding, ding, ding. We are ringing in the bell to the Angelina episode.

This was Electric. She is just a firecracker. Absolutely hilarious. Has had a lot of different career changes, right? Like you think about missing out on the boom of Jersey Shore and then getting back in. We heard a bunch about some of the numbers behind her career and speculation around what she makes in DJing, but it's safe to say that these Jersey Shore castmates are paid very, very well. So David, we're going to have to talk about that because I actually read an article that they're paid over $100,000 per episode. You think about that. That is a whole lot of money. But David, I know you're a Jersey Shore fan. I mean, even for your bachelor party, we got you in the booth saying what's up in a photo with DJ Polly D.

So I'm sure this episode had you fired up as a big win moment for us, big win moment for for David 15 years ago who used to watch this show absolutely religiously. And you know what? Wasn't a fan of Angelina when the show first aired because as she mentioned, she played the villain role and she played it well. but to see her come full circle make a massive comeback and I'll be on the podcast talking about her experience to get on the show I would say a huge win for us jersey shore in the house jersey shore in the house and then also I mean the premier is this week right so we're thinking timing of angelina we're thinking jersey shore and I can tell you this much in the future we're going to have to bring on DJ Polly D because everything I see out there and we heard it

from Angelina even Snooky has said it herself he is the guy that has has established the highest net worth of any of them. And I hear it's well over $20 million. Well, Angelina talked a lot about being a hustler. And that's kind of her mentality. DJ Pauldy is a massive hustler. The guy's a massive fortune. But he works, if you ever look at his tour dates,

he's traveling all over the place, DJing all over the place. But just in general, like something to be said, before we get into the details of Angelina, Jersey Shore itself, 13 season, 6 is normal Jersey Shore, seven is Jersey Shore family vacation. Is there a bigger wagon of a reality TV show than Jersey Shore, period?

Is there? I think when you look at the fact that it's the same cast, it's the same people that are showing their lives from A to Z. We're not talking about the Bachelor of new leads and new faces. I don't think so. I mean, I don't think so. I think, you know, of course there's real housewives and there's Vanderpump and there's other different shows out there.

But when you think about the branding of what they've done and then the international offshoots of what this has been, they have changed kind of the entire landscape for not only reality TV, but the monetization, the business aspect of branding, the fact that these individuals like Snooki, DJ Pauli D, Angelina, they are their own entities. Now, we see that every day, right? Every single day in the creator space. Entities are built on a brand. A brand is built on an individual.

they were the first people to do it and they were the ones that literally were just the trailblazers for this space and you think about each of them how they're so uniquely branded but what is my one big takeaway the consistency man like snooky snooky has been the same snooky for 20 years DJ Polly D's hair has literally been glued to his head that way since day one like when you see them when you hear their name you instantly can understand who they are what they represent and what their brand is. And I think for anyone back home, no matter what you do, right, whether you're a restaurant, you're a teacher, whatever it might be, having that consistency so that when people say your name or your business or your identity, that you instantly have that brand associated with

it, there's something to it. Oh, 100%. I had a big smile on my face when she said, I'm the same girl on the TV show that you, if you meet me in person and I was before the show, and like you mentioned, all of the cast members, when they got casted, got casted in their element. DJ Pauli D. got casted when he was DJing an event in Rhode Island. Angelina got casted in a nightclub doing her thing in a nightclub. And like you said, they are absolutely lighting in a bottle and authenticity of who they are is what's been so captivating. And like you said, the fact that they're all the same castile together is truly, truly incredible.

But it wasn't always like that for Angelina. And two things that I have to always mention because when they're themes in our podcast, I just have to bring them to the surface because they can't go and notice. We talked last week about Jacks Taylor hitting rock bottom and Angelina also mentioning hitting rock bottom being homeless in her car with her dog peanut and then also the theme of working for free and ending up getting the job, the dream job that you wanted because you worked for free. I just have to bring that up and is there a way that you can emphasize these things or these

traits that you're continuing to see in the business world, the landscape? it sounds like these aren't dying dying themes. Yeah, I mean the thing is everyone's just got to take a breather right now and think like whatever you do and how you do it, no matter what it is. Like if you're not fucking pumped up about it, if you don't get excited,

your heart doesn't skip a being thinking about something in your week as it comes to your professional world. Stop. Stop sitting in the tracks that someone else has created for you. Like wake up and find a way to get involved with something you love. and there's so many ways to do it

and like we've heard on this podcast a hundred times we heard it here with Angelina you could do it for free but like that thought the excitement the the anticipation of like what's coming and when it's coming it is fucking awesome David I'm sitting here now we're recording this the week before

the Super Bowl getting ready for this I'm getting backed I have an itinerary I can't wait for there are events that I'm getting paid to go to like to me it's a fucking dream I'm pinching myself and I can't wait like I don't know how I'm going to sleep tonight And so this is just one moment, but I urge people back there. You hear from Angelina, if you need something, a new change, like find what really just

ticks you and just go. Like, it's there. It's there. Just go get it. Have you worked for free? Can you give the people an example of something that you did for free that may be led to something that you're currently reaping the benefits of? I mean, I think all the time, like within my day-to-day basis, I'm doing stuff for free.

Like, I can think about so many deals that got done because they said, hey, can you show up here can you do this for us? Or can you jump on this call and meet this one person? Or can you X, Y, Z, where, you know, typically maybe there's a rate associated with it, but you just lead with free because you know that the greater good of what could happen. And the excitement from it is more. So, you know, in our world, it's a little different because it might be, again, just taking a meeting or showing up somewhere or, you know, serving on a panel without a fee or, you know, whatever, doing consulting for free. So it's a little bit different in our space. But you see the long game for it to then potentially back into what could come from it.

You know what I mean? Yeah, I'm a believer. When I was my first coaching job at coaching of Geneseo, I was a volunteer assistant coach. So I did that for free for three years and got some side jobs to pay the bills. So, and look at us now. One thing that was really interesting is the fact that she went on family vacation for free. And not only is she now getting paid,

but she talked about how all the cast members are getting paid the same amount. They negotiate per episode, not per season. She said a term in there, Jay. I just want some clarification. Favor nation. She says that they're all favor nation. Is that a term in the industry?

But I just needed some clarification on that. So we've talked a little bit about SAG AFRA. It's the union. It's the Screen Actors Guild, the American Federation of Television and Radio Artists, right? So people in entertainment will want to be associated with this union. We've talked a lot about this, but this is an industry term. So even this is the definition right from their web,

website, David. This is an industry term, which means that you are getting equal contractual treatment to others on the project, billing accommodations, and any other contractual provisions. It's not required by SAG Actress, so it's not required and must be separately negotiated between performer and producer. And I think we've learned here, of all the shows that we've had on, for all my TV people and entertainment people, I don't think we've ever had one show where they are in something such as this. right? It doesn't exist really other than this show. So this is the first in which they're all getting paid the same. And what's mind-blowing to me is of all shows like this is where we've seen

the biggest separation in brand and value ad. So to me, it kind of shocks me that they all go in, right? But hey, that's what they do. It probably helps for, you know, consistency with the show and time deployed and everyone's incentivized. And if those rumors are true, where they're making $100K per episode plus shit sign me well i i can't think of a more full circle moment than her leaving the show after season one for a guy and then season two because she wasn't getting along with her castmates having the extreme fomo that she has a season three four five six seven aired and and all these co-stars being international superstars and at the time probably hating them or maybe wishing bad luck but then she joins them on family vacation all of sudden because she joins them all of their

successes now become her successes as she gets paid the same amount of as them pretty incredible do you think that the fact they are on favor nation is what has kept the same cast altogether or do you think if they were up had to be sharks and negotiate their own contracts that you'd see some people come in and out yes i think the disparity given the value of their brands would have a huge impact on the ability to bring them all together because i think what angelina said is right like i think they all do need each other i think the drama needs to exist with each person in there that is stuck in that bottle where the lightning is firing off. So to me, it's an extremely tactful way to say, hey, let's keep the band together.

We see how many bands break up because brands within the band, identity changes, right? I think the way to keep this band together was Favor Nations, and I think it's a brilliant, brilliant move. It was just an interesting episode to learn more about one of the longest lasting trailblazing shows from a business perspective that we have yet to cover. what else you got david well speaking of first full circle moment she talked about going on all star shore another mt v paramount production we had blake and g on they were on all star shore that's where they met now i don't know if you remember but i have it here blake made 70k and g made 120k on the same

show so you see their negotiation tactics right there um she talked about how she negotiated her rate that wasn't a favor nation show she said how viny ended up making two or three times more than her with a couple of other special perks on it. Do you have a guest? Do you want to take a stab at what you think Angelina got paid, knowing that Blake was 70 and G was 120? I'm going to say it was 150. I think she was paid about 150.

And also I've heard Blake and G talk a little bit about how Angelino, just brand-wise, she's like, man, when we saw her in front of that camera, she just crushes it. She just makes good TV. And he even said, like, she had a little bit of a special treatment. Like, she had, like, nicer rooms, and she was taken into certain spots. And, you know, it was like, it was very evident. and apparently on that show that Angelina was one of the big stars

and one of the stars that was paid well. And they saw why that was the case because that girl brings it. So she absolutely brings it. David, anything else before we wrap up? Yes, I can't end without mentioning. Manifesting was another theme that we've heard a lot that she's big on. She says she has psychic abilities, Jay. I got two things for you.

One, I think you said, let's bring it up with a recap. We're going to talk about manifesting. I'm going to manifest something. I thought about it. I'm going to manifest it. And I'm going to manifest it in the not I hope to be or I want to be, but I am. And then we're going to come back to me in a month and see if it happened. So I'm manifesting that my team that I coach, the 18 U, Bishop Carney selects, we are New York State champions.

Wow. I love that. Okay. We are New York State champions and we are going to go to the national championship, which is in Las Vegas, Nevada. So we are. I'm not hoping. I'm not game planning. I'm not, we are.

We're New York State champions. Okay. Have you won the New York State title before? Two years ago. Okay. Two years ago you did it. Now, you know what, David? We're going to come back to that because that's a good correlation to what I'm going to manifest.

Let's put something out here. And everyone back home, I want you to go to our reviews and maybe we'll read some off in the next episode. But put what you're manifesting. Write it in the review. When you write it, when you speak it, it has a higher likelihood of becoming a reality. Two years ago, we went out and sold some books via. book tour. We're doing it again this year. So we haven't put it together, but it's going to be scrap job. I'm in a manifest that we have a big tour, a successful tour. I'm going to manifest

that talk money to me becomes a bestseller. And I'm going to manifest that it becomes a New York Times bestseller. But David, I can't do that with, I'll put it out there. And here's what I want to put out there. Right now, if you buy a copy, just go to Amazon, put talk money to me, go buy a copy, send me a receipt to trading secrets at jason tardick.com. I will have a customized, very nice formal branded letter that I will customize however you want the note to be in the book and you will be able to it will be an adhesive a very formal adhesive you could put in the front of the book I will sign it and customize a message to you if you do it right now buy a copy tell me what you want customized in that inner flap I will send it to you directly and that is how

we're going to make talk money to me a bestseller and a New York Times bestseller I love it David what else we got anything that's it we're New York State champions we have a great successful book tour. We're a New York Times bestseller. And at the end of the day, we're just a couple kids back on the mics on the ones and twos, trading secrets recap, 2024. Close the book. That's what we got. I love it. And you know what I'll tell you? I just feel like I have actually never come out and said that I want the book to be a New York Times bestseller because I know how hard that is, especially in the business category. And I don't like to let myself down. But I will say even just saying it being like, okay, let's make it a bestseller

and a New York Times best seller. It has me in my head now believing, okay, you know what? even if I don't make it, I know I'm going to start doing more to make it happen. I'm going to keep trying. And you guys back home can really help me just buying a copy and it's going to benefit you. So we got a New York State champion coming. We got a best seller, a book tour, all things. You guys go put what you're manifesting in the comments. And holy shit.

It's the only words I have to say, you guys back home, you've asked for numbers. You want numbers. Well, you're going to get them next week with Savannah, Chrisley. Nashville, Tennessee, another reality star legend that started her career when she was in her teens. You're going to hear how much she made every step of the way. And this is even like, you know, a little true crime meets finance because both of her parents are currently serving time for wire fraud, bank fraud, tax fraud, but you're going to hear her tell her side of the story. That will be an episode of training secrets you can't afford to miss. Thank you for

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