Trading Secrets - More Than Money: BTS of the Talk Money To Me book tour, personal life updates, and changing the podcast with David and Jason

Episode Date: April 25, 2024

This week, Jason is joined by the curious Canadian, David Arduin! Jason and David dive into the start of the More Than Money podcast episodes, the behind the scenes of the Talk Money to Me book tour, CapitalOne Cafés, how Jason was cornered by TMZ, how being busy versus having downtime impacts them, how Jason assesses the year so far, and amplifying the voice of the listeners.  It’s an episode you can’t afford to miss!  Host: Jason Tartick Co-Host: David Arduin Audio: Declan O’Connell Stay connected with the Trading Secrets Podcast!  Instagram: @tradingsecretspodcast  Youtube: Trading Secrets Facebook: Join the Group All Access: Free 30-Day Trial 

Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages, it is more than money. And I am joined by the one and only, the curious Canadian, David Ardoin, and himself. I'll tell you what. Usually, David, I'm doing the ding, ding, ding, or I'm doing the welcome back to another episode of trade secrets. I don't know where I came up with that one, but I did. And I think it's a good connection to this episode, right? Where we're doing a more than money episode. It's two times a week. We'll talk about why we're doing it. But of course, we're still trying to find the identity of it. We know that we had greatest showman as the intro song. We're going to change that based on some reviews that we receive. So continue to

to give us those reviews, five stars, give us feedback. We listen. But more importantly, we'll have time to talk about what this is and what we expect from it. But right now, you got David and I doing a little life catch up talking more than money. David, how we feeling? We are feeling great. We are feeling great. I had to watch two Thursday episodes slip by without getting on the ones and twos with you. So here I am making my Thursday episode debut. And if I can count on you for anything, Jay, it's either a WWE style and intro, which you hit me with at the start, or it's spontaneous Disney music, which the other song that we had was, it's getting off. If you don't think we listen to the reviews, the reviews

piqued our interest to get rid of the song. I personally don't know how the song got in there to begin with. But here we are. We are Thursday. We are more than money with the original dual back at it. So I'm ready to get after it. Yeah. And I think, you know what? There's so much we could do with this episode. I think the idea is a few things. One, we know that we have a lot of pop culture guests for trading secrets, and we know that people want more granular business type discussions as it relates to health, wealth, and just overall mental and physical happiness. So that was a thought, right? So we had corporate Natalie doing a behind the scenes with my book tour and the book. Then we had a founder of a health supplement

company, Keon, come on. Then we had Harvard grad and founder of invited MBA. So these are more granular alternative type discussions in all areas that I think connect to health, wealth, and happiness. I think that's like kind of the central themes. And then David, I think we could even go off the cuff on stuff. Like, you know, we can make it this own where if we want to, you know, you always have unbelievable perspectives on reality TV. Maybe we recap an episode or something that's trending in the news. But the idea here is it's more than just pop culture. It's more than just money talk. It can be anything and everything. And I think we'll find out what this is. We'll find the identity of it. But so far, so good. And it looks like we're

keeping it. Well, this is, you know, usually people, when we do the recap, I got my notes from the episode. I got a couple of questions. I always got to dumb down the questions. If I don't know it, then you don't know it. So I got to ask Jason, this guys, I'm in my living room. My feet are kicked up. I'm staring out the window. I'm having a cup of coffee. I'm talking to my buddy on the podcast. on the phone, on the FaceTime right now. So that's what I want this to be. And Jay, he's a humble guy. You know, he's always putting other people first.

He's always picking them up. I knew from the day that we started this podcast, one of the reasons I'm on as a Curious Canadian, was to be able to get Jay's take, Jay's input on things that he's asking his guests. At the end of the day, Jay has a following. People who listen, they're probably part of that following. People always want to hear from Jay.

If I can sit here once a month, twice a month, once to six months and just give a little update to the people about your life outside of work because you're a work, work, work guy. That's what I'm here for. So there's the episodes. I like it. I like the feel that we're bringing to the table right now.

I hope the people at home are picking up what I'm putting down. I like it. One thing I'll say is I think that it's nice that we have coffees and we're energized and focused. But I do feel like if this is going to be a more than money episode, moving forward, it should be more cocktails because I do think that's when our crazy side gets out. We got to show that because when am I going to show that

an interview with Kevin O'Leary. I'm not. Twist my arm. twist my arm. I will put Carter down. I'll pour the bourbon. I will sit down. I'll kick my feet up a little higher. I even turn the fireplace on, really get in the mode and we'll attack this thing. So I'm good for it. Now you're speaking to me. Now you're getting me all excited. Perfect. I love it. All right. Well, let's get, there's a lot to talk about here. Right. We just finished the tour, the book, some life updates. There's so many, there's some funny stories from the tour. So we can get into like

all the things. But I think why don't we just as a subject matter? Let's get into the book tour a little David, you couldn't come on any of the stops. You were seeing it from a distance. And of course, you're the curious Canadian. So I could talk all day about the tour, but I think it'd be better if I got your perspective of being like, where do your curiosities lie? What are you thinking about the tour?

What questions do you have? What should I tell you? Yeah, it broke my heart not to be on this one as much as I was on the last book tour. But I think for me, the number one thing that I have is, I've never seen these before until your book tour. And I want to know if they were kind of created for the book tour or if they exist.

what is a Capital One Cafe? Is that a thing that exists? Because when I think Capital One, I think Samuel L. Jackson, credit card commercials on TV. When I think cafes, I don't think credit cards. So walk me through exactly what a Capital One Cafe is. Did they exist? Are they just rolling these out? What the hell are they?

Okay. So imagine, like, take just the Capital One part off and it's Cafe. That's exactly what it is. So in this cafe, they have an area where you can get food and beverage. They have working spaces where there's like, nooks and community rooms with like outlets and Wi-Fi. And they also, like a normal cafe, everyone's welcome. So you don't have to bank there to like use the cafe. So the Capital One cafes are to create this almost like workspace meets cafe meets you can use it for what you

want, whether it's a meeting or pulling up your laptop or just grabbing a cup of coffee and a quick bite. And so attached to it, there's also a banking institution and like where you can actually bank or meet with some of the cafe, Capital One employees. But think of it just like a cafe and they all have different looks. You know, we went to eight cities. Some of them were double deckers. Some of them were a little smaller. But just imagine like a big cafe.

That's what it is. What was your biggest crowd? Biggest crowd. I think was Chicago or Philly. Okay. How many do you know off? We had double deckers at both of them. We're both.

Now, Max capacity, when we. we originally did it, David. We had to stop allowing people in at 125 and then we'd create a wait list to 150. And then what we would do was like right before the event because there's always drop off, especially if there's free tickets, which capital ones are subsidized. So there's free tickets and everyone got a book that was free, et cetera. So we would add like a few more spots there. But I think those were probably those, I think we're in the 150 plus range. And then you got to just grease the fire Marshall so we can get a couple more people in there for the for the book tour so i love that what was your favorite city best energy out of any city that you went to not the city itself but

the but the event i think like what was so much fun about philly is like you know philly sports fans are wild dude at the book tour they're doing like all these philly sports chance it's tough but each one had their own identity you know like and it was like really cool like the oh my god man the questions from D.C., like the people that were participating and sharing their dollar amounts and their stories and the questions in D.C. were so incredible. The Boston vibes were amazing. There was one person who got up and told this, this heart-wrenching, but beautiful story about, she's like, my husband literally could have walked out of a GQ magazine. You would never know. And he abruptly died of cancer. And they had kids together. And she had another kid.

while, you know, after he had, he had been lost. I think they used IVF to have another kid even knowing that he was going to go and how she created it on for profit. Her story was just beautiful. But I think the cool thing with this Capital One Cafe book tour was that we had and each stop, David, if you look at the cumulative, like, things that happened. There were people that met at this thing and gone on dates. We heard stories.

There were people that did business deals. They were unemployed people that got hired because of this event. There were people that just started their business and got their word out and did things. And even one of the events, there was two people who were literally roommates in college, both showed up, didn't know they showed up, and they went out afterwards. So it was like super like interactive in that space. There was, I'll tell you this. There's a couple funny stories.

Two of them. One, there's this girl in DC, I call it a sharpshooter. Because like for Q&A, 90% of the questions were like money related, but like five. five to 10 were bachelor. And she said, she goes, all right, I have two questions. The first question, how much to the dollar amount do you approximate your breakup cost you? And also, there's been a lot of rumblings about you being the bachelor.

If they came to you today, what dollar amount would you require and why? I'm like, whoa. So I stopped her. I go, you need to start writing my podcast questions. And for Serena Carrigan, she wrote my podcast questions. I got to reconnect with her because I'm going to have her on. And then the second funny thing was when we had one moderator who was like very, very, you know, very PC. She worked for Capital One. She was on point, but Chicago was just fun.

People in Chicago when they got the mic, they were having fun. There were so many laughs. And at the end, the moderator does this. She wraps up and she's like, oh, I feel, you know, I honestly feel like I just got a like a big burst of a money shot here. This was great. And then everyone just started laughing. And she's like, yeah, that was probably the wrong choice of words. Yeah, maybe I'm not used to having a mic in my hand in front of a crowd full of people. That's unbelievable. Speaking of questions,

I did see you get grilled on the sidewalk by TMZ. Was that expected? Was that set? Was that, I don't know. Anytime I see you on TMZ, I'm like, this is, this is, I'm not used to see my friends on TMZ. Yeah, I mean, as you know,

90 to 95% of TMZ stops are staged. Correct. I was so rattled. I had no idea that was coming. You looked so rattled. And they even edit it. You should have seen like the real probably uncut version. I was literally like, what do I do?

I'm like panicked because it's never happened to me. It's literally never happened to me. But there's a guy that works for TMZ who I actually, David, I want him to come on trading secrets. His name's Adam. And like how like just that industry like paparazzi and all this stuff, right? Like I think we should have them on. So if you guys think we should have Adam who does paparazzi and like we'll stop people like that from all celebrities, the aest of a list to the Z list and the dollar amounts, let us know in the comments. Just literally go to Apple, give us five stars and tell us if we want the TMZ interview or not. But I know him. And so when it happened, the first thing I did was I texted him. And I'm like, dude, what the fuck? Like you knew I was in New York because I had talked to him earlier about possibly having him on the podcast because I ran into him at the Super Bowl.

And I was just like, dude, I literally said it like this. I was like, what the fuck? Like, you didn't give me a heads up or anything that this was coming. And he was like, I had no idea it was coming. I had no idea. He's like, let me look into it. And he looked into it. And the person that interviewed me, I'd never seen her before.

And so it was totally caught off guard by that. It made you throw back to your banker days for you're running in the bathroom having to take your beta blockers. You're on the spot panicking shake and don't know what to do. Yeah. And because we was going to the Capital One Cafe, and I was putting it everywhere, of course, where I was in the time. So that would make sense. But I, when I got in there, I was trying to get focused for what I had to do on stage. And I was so rattled.

I was like, how did they find me? Why me? Like, what the heck? I just didn't like it. Classic. Yeah. Overall, though, move the last thing on the book, sales comparative year over year, reviews, reception, any, any challenges, good or bad compared to the first one? I got to go through the numbers here, but like we know PR was an absolute hit this time around

because this topic is just people are interested in it. So, you know, Jennifer Hudson show, two spots on Gooding Morning America, you know, Fox Business Live, Forbes, like the list I feel like is endless and we're still getting a ton come in. So in a couple of magazine spots and like it's just the PR has been amazing on this because there's a lot of interest in this topic. The I would have to get the numbers, but definitely outperformed last year and outperformed them or last book and outperform them in a big way is my understanding. We got a few more questions to ask, hey, I bought the book, Fair and Square. It's sitting on my coffee table right now.

So I'm fired up. I'm a little bit through it right now. And Ashley and I are looking at each other reading this book saying, we know that. Yeah, we don't know that. So we're making our headway through it as well. and all the things that bring you down that make you want to break the mic, Jay. I think you can look back on book number two

and have a lot of positive, positive feelings through it. So we're going to move on from the book more than money with Jason Tardick and the Curious Canadian. And we're going to get into a little bit of a life segment, okay? A little bit of a life segment.

Talk to them. Book tour's done. And I got to say this. Okay. I'm going to put a little PSA out there. When I watch you on Instagram, I watch and consume your content like I'm not one of your best friends. And I do that because there's things that come up that I generally want to know more of

or I generally want to hear or listen to what you're saying. And sometimes you say things that I don't know or I wasn't aware of. And it makes me want to pick up the phone and call you. One of those things that I can't ignore is that I want to get. and, you know, now that's more than, more than money. It's about feels. We're getting our feels a little bit. You talked about coming back from the book tour.

And when you're on the book tour, you're in like your happiest state. And it's because you're moving a million miles an hour. You're going to eight different cities. You're traveling from the west coast or the east coast. You're traveling to the Midwest. You're traveling to all these places. And then the weekend after, you force yourself to go home to Nashville. You made no plans.

And you said you need to focus on yourself. And when you started focusing on yourself and focus on your own thoughts, you said you're at your most uncomfortable state that you could ever that you that you are in a given time and that kind of hit me as your friend and also kind of hit me as it as just a human to reflect on how I feel about those things right when I'm traveling for hockey when I'm away from from ashen from Carter and all those things so I just wanted to kind of touch in with that how are you doing with that how are you feeling about that are you able to to take some more time to maybe work on that to yourself or is your summer just booked out

from now all the way until Labor Day weekend. Yeah, it's a good question. I think in general, my safe place is staying busy. It's actually like a form. I think there's forms of numbing, right? Like, you know, numbing can be very productive. Like, exercising is a form of numbing to some people. Yeah.

You know? And I think my form of comfort is being busy, feeling accomplished and productive and being social. The thing is, is all those things also eliminate the ability to like connect in with your. yourself. And so my state of discomfort is actually being in a room by myself with my feelings, you know, kind of checking in. And so what I was funny, it's funny not to interrupt, but that's my favorite. Like that's my most comfortable. And so the ying and yang between you and I,

and that's why we're able to get so deep on some of these conversations is because we bring two totally different perspectives of like comfort. And I think it's just so unique. So to hear you say that like I can actually walks into rooms all the time and I'm in the room silence lights off like nothing and she's like are you okay I'm like I couldn't be better so it's so funny to hear you talk about that yeah it's literally that's that's like yin and yang and so when I'm when I'm not busier when I'm I think it's I think I just I have to kind of sit with my feels and my thoughts and I think being in Nashville after the high of the tour at this point there's also no dogs in the house I'm like sitting here by myself and I feel accomplished from what happened but I also like felt so like

lonely and that one night I went on Instagram and talked about it I went in my bed that night and I didn't obviously put it on Instagram but I just started I was like crying like what am I crying about but I think it's just like it was a it was just a little bit of a low after like a massive energy high and it was this thought of like all right like that was great but now I also have to say to myself, what in life do I want? And now that there's so much energy and time being spent towards the tour and the planning and everything, it consumed everything. And once it was done, it's kind of like what's next. And there's definitely a moment of like me sitting here saying like, what am I doing with my actual personal life? Like I'm sitting here in Nashville. I'm

still in the house I rented from the breakup. I still was thinking about, New York and nothing about New York. I just have so many, I'm like, what am I doing? And I just kind of crashed. I just mentally like crashed. And I want to answer your question, though, because the next two weeks are crazy, going to stage coach with Patron. And then I go to Toronto. I do have a speaking event with hashtag paid. And then on May 6th, I'm back in Nashville for a little bit. And like, I'm going to really focus in May to try and stay put so I can, you know, spend some more time on me. Yeah, no, that's great. And part of the reason I bring it up, not just as your friend, but I think so many listeners of the podcast, too, like, who hasn't had that personal

conversation of like, I'm X years old? What am I doing with my life? And it could be work. It could be personal. It could be a relationship. It could be family oriented. It could be anything, right? It could be health and wellness. It could be anything where at the end of the day, we either look in a mirror or we have five seconds and maybe we've been putting it off for so long, but we look and we're like, oh my God, it's already, you know, it's already April and I had health goals for myself in January and I've made negative progress or, you know, it might be career goals or where I'm at in my life. So that's why I bring it up and just get more insight. And again, like I said at the start of the show, people come on, people listen to trading secrets,

people following Instagram for you, right? They don't. So, you know, I just think that that input that you're able to give people in the perspective, like I think it's powerful. Yeah, for sure. And I think one of the things that I appreciate you asking, but one of the big things I'm working, on too. Working on every day is like it's not these accomplishments. It's not the success of a podcast. It's not what people think. It truly is like your self-validation with yourself that creates self-fulfillment, period. And so those are like really, really big things I'm trying to do. And you know, Serena Kerrigan, she's coming on the podcast. And I really, really liked what she said, and I'll tease it a little bit, because she's, her whole thing

is, like, having confidence. And she was like, never, ever, ever speak poorly about yourself. Never, ever. Yes, I get, like, self-deprecating humor and so all that, but never do that. And she looks in the mirror and, like, tells herself positive affirmations. And I was like, yeah, but Serena, like, come on, I get. You don't have a bad day? You don't ever say, like, I suck today? Like, what a shit bag I was? I don't know. Come on. And she's like, there's a difference. and you'll hear that so it's great. But she said there's a difference between feeling a certain way and there's a difference in saying you are a certain way.

Like one is an absolute and one's a feeling. And you could feel lousy. You could feel tired. You could feel depressed. You could feel sad. You could feel unaccomplished. That's a feeling that's not who you are. You are great.

And like there's a lot to do that. I like that. Yeah. That was good. That was good. So you're not writing lipstick on the mirror with positive affirmations. Not yet. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. We're not. So that brings me to, you know, maybe my final question, but something, the last thing that was kind of, on my mind was, and it kind of relates to everything that we've talked about today.

The JTA, 2023, you talked about 2024 wanting to be your year, year of letting your hair down, totally approaching it with like a little more recklessness, a little more like, you know, not overthinking, just a little more like you're approaching every day, hair in the wind, saying, all right, let's just go do this. Well, you did the book tour. You've been at home. Now you're focusing on yourself. You're kind of analyzing a 360.

Give me a letter grade on how you think you're doing. Let's say the third through 2024. How are you doing with your 2024 mantra that you said in JTA, 2023? I feel like I'm doing pretty damn good. I think so, too. I feel like in social media and my personal interactions. I'm so less bothered by small things I was. I'm sharing and putting things out.

I typically wouldn't. And I'm just, I think, taking, I don't know, just giving less shits, if that makes sense, about like the small stuff, right? I think I am. I feel pretty good about it. Could I do more of it? Absolutely.

But I think I'm doing, I feel like I'm doing pretty good at it. What do you think? I think you are too. I think you are too. I notice, you know, genuinely. And I think that the big thing for me when it comes to our relationship is like, are we talking just through work or are we talking outside of work? And I think if we're focusing on talking outside of work,

of work and then focusing on trying to make time to see each other like that to me is a sign for you that you are you know a little more just from my interaction a little more fully aware of the big picture right your work you're you're finding new avenues you're you're getting super successful your your network is growing you know that's all good and i think you've really taken a step in 2024 of thinking about things outside of work and thinking things and like you mentioned things about yourself and things about what's going to make you happy not just today but next year and five years from now and prioritizing that and feeling it, right? I think the biggest thing for you is like feeling it, right? Not just, you know, having the thought and moving on from the

thought or running away from it, but feeling it's good. It's part of letting your hair down. It's letting you just digest those things. So I think you're doing great. Yeah, and again, it's worked a lot stuff this year for sure, but I've also, I think a little bit of the spontaneousness of like where I'd be like, oh, I'm not going to go there because that doesn't make sense this year. I know I said I wanted to do that because I do want a family. I do want to have kids. And I know those times are limited. And, man, I've, I've probably been in, oh, I've probably been in 20 cities in a few countries so far. They, you know, Mexico, same parts. You know, I've been in almost every, like, I feel like almost every city in this. So, like I have, I think, lived a little bit like that. But there's

always room for improvement. I don't know. What's one thing you want to like read out, it's, let's talk. It's, it's April. We're going on May. What's one thing, 24, like, you want to put a little bit more focused on you want to be a little bit more better on better yeah Ashley's actually sitting beside me on a work break right now so she's going to think that I'm saying this just to say this but hockey season's over so for me it's like time to invest in my family my my son and my house like I want to start you know I've mentioned this before a little bit like start she's just laughing to herself right now but she's like I want to I was like I'm looking outside I got to set up the patio furniture I got to do all that I got some landscaping to do she's staring at light bulbs that I might

after a place, but, like, that's it. Like, that for me is always did a thing. I cleaned out two closets today. It took me four hours to clean out two closets. We did the store. We did the storage unit last week. I was like telling everyone I know, I was like, I cleaned out the storage unit. I feel great.

I'm decluttering. We're getting after it. It is ridiculous how much time, like, making it some of a house takes. But it feels, it is. It is. But it's also some stuff. doesn't take that much time and you put it off so much that you build it in this grand gesture and like I'm I'm getting there so the weather in Rochester sucked so I'm

I'm looking for a nice little weather motivation to try and get me outside and start some of this stuff but man we're just we're out here doing what we can at the end of the day we're out here doing what we can and so that's just you know everyone has like we said it's a goal of mine it's not an ego goal but it's a personal goal and I need some kind of self-fulfillment self-accomplishment to get me across the finish line there so That's, that's, that's where I'm at right now. And then like you said, starting a family, we got our producer on the show. Evan Sahar, his wife is due when this episode comes out, I think, of four days later.

For four years and you still can't say his last name. Evan Saar. Sahar. You said Sahar. Coming from the guy who can't do name before every episode. Okay, what's the name again? Friends' names. I know my mom's name.

I know my dad's name. He's in my phone. not as Evan Sarr. That's another funny thing. He's in my phone as Evan Ainsworth because when I met him, he was working at Ainsworth. And David and I also do this whenever we meet someone, this isn't planned by the way.

Whatever your phone, whatever I put you in immediately, never will get changed. Never. Evans in my phone is NY, Evan, NYC Club because we met him at Tao. At Tao the first time.

And Jason people, Jason's in my phone is Jason J-A-Y-S-O-N because that's just how I thought. he spelled his name to start. And you still haven't changed it. Still haven't changed it. Won't ever change it. Yeah.

No, it's in their J-A-Y-S-O-N. So yeah, but no, you got time, man. Evans, Evan's going to be,

you know, his life's over as he knows it, but it's going to be beautiful. And soon you're, you'll get there too, Jay. I will get there too. You have the kids.

You will have the family and I'll be excited to be Uncle Artie and spoil the shit out of that kid. Absolutely. Man, I just all wish, you know,

when you spend time like this, I'm like, God, We get to talk weekly, but we don't get to see each other enough, you know? I know. But that's why these, you know, more than money episodes, people in the comments, you know, by now you have a say in the show. You have a saying, guests that you want to hear, you have a say in formats, you have

a say in what you like, what you don't like. We kicked out the themes onto the episode. We put a new one in. We're four episodes into the Thursday episodes. We're still figuring out what they are. I think a once a month catch up more than money with Jason and David. Curious Canadian, in here is an option. If you like that option, let us know.

If you think there's something else, let us know. Jay, what do you got to end this out? You know, what do I got to end this out? A couple of things that are more than money that I've been thinking a lot about. Conflict is absolutely beautiful. I've said it before, but I've really, in the last month,

stepped into conversations and much more like private than I've, like, shared anything. A lot of private conversations. I'm not going to get into in all areas of my life. where it's addressing conflict because I truly think if you have two people that are willing to take accountability and willing to grow,

conflict can be an unbelievable form of growth. Another thing is that, like, I think in this day and age, we're so focused on our phones and fact-checking, and da-da-da-da-da-da. And I think what's really good is, like, some of the best conversations you have are when you're actually discussing

your experiences without the facts, like without the fact check, like knowledge, perceived knowledge and knowledge to experience, I think just like generates such, such great conversation. And I've also said this one before, and I've said it to a few people and a few times. There's a lot of outside noise. There's a lot of critics. There's a lot of people that are projecting onto others.

A lot of people have internal resentment that they're seeing in others and getting mad or they're, you know, envious of what someone has and has to bring them down. At the end of the day, like truly, truly people get trying, choking over here, people could try and, I swear I'm not getting emotional. I'm choking on like, done. I swear. People can try and take you down or talk shit and everyone feels this. But I do feel that like no one can ever, ever, ever take your character. You know who you are. You know your character. You know your heart. And no words can ever take that from you. So I don't know, man. Those are some top of things that are top of mind for me. And I'd probably close it out with that. What are you thinking? I love it. Conflict at the end of day is conversation. The boys are moving in the right direction. The podcast moving in the right direction. We've had great guests. We will continue to have great guests. I'm just enjoying, I'm enjoying season three of this. And Jay, I don't know if you know this, but we're right on the precipice. I think that's the word of entering season four, trading secrets. We are next month. Very close to hitting that three year mark and going on to four. That's crazy. It's absolutely

it's crazy. It's been a, thank you all for being with us throughout the way, too. Thank you for being here. Guys, remember to follow. Please give us five stars in the reviews and let us know anything that you'd like to know from us, feedback you have, direction you'd like to go, guests that you want, we'll continue to keep more of the money while we have it. And David, I will say in the beginning of the year,

we did have some goals. We had some goals to do a book tour. We had some goals to create merch. We had some goals to do a podcast tour. So you know what? Since things went so well with Capital One Cafe on the book tour, maybe we'll give them a call and think about a fall podcast tour. I'm in. I'm in. Let's fire it up here. Just put that out there. Put that out there. Just inch it into the world.

We're thinking. But hopefully you enjoyed more than money and you got more than just the dollars and cents, but a little insight. We'll continue to keep bringing you these episodes that will provide a whole different perspective than what you get on trading secrets. Make sure again to follow us on Instagram. Go join our Facebook group. And also, please, five stars in the review. David, you got anything you want to close us? Oh, that's it. More than money. That's a wrap.