Trash Taste Podcast - Anime Convention Horror Stories | Trash Taste #22

Episode Date: November 6, 2020

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Welcome back to another episode of Trash Taste Podcast. I'm your host Joey and with me are the boys, the British boys, the BBs. I thought you'd only have like a Neanderthal or something. Oh, okay. Come on, Joey. What's up, Residents of Cuckfield? Welcome back to another episode of Trash Tays Podcast. Okay, I'll take it. I'll take it.

If you're actually from Cuckfield, then there you go. There's your shout out. Today I found out that I was on a Samsung ad by accident. Oh yeah, yeah, I saw that. Yeah, no, I saw you sent the clip to Sydney, right? No, no, I didn't. I didn't, I didn't. I saw you retweeting and I'm pretty sure.

Or like, I don't know. I, I, I. That was you for your Fivera thing. So I did a Fiverr video where I became a Fiverr seller and normally right, Fiverr you get like vastly under charge. It's kind of like, that's kind of how the website works. Right. But I got contact by someone who is like,

oh, let's do an actual ad. I thought great, this is amazing content for the video because I can actually show people like how to do it. My skills. Yeah, right? I was like, oh, flex-lop, you know. And I asked them a few questions. few questions because normally when you do a commercial with voice acting, you need to figure out, it's like buyout fees and depending on basically how much the ad is going to play

and how many countries it's going to play in is how you like calculate a buyout fee. So the normal studio fee, which is like the doing the work and then there's the fee for essentially using your voice worldwide. And, you know, it varies a lot. Like you can, I know dudes who've gotten like 50K of one hour. I mean, you were talking about like in a previous podcast episode about the guy who does the ads for McDonald's, right? Yeah, he lives off just that. Yeah, yeah. And like, I did a commercial one time

where I got like $8,000 for just one hour of work. Was that the boats one? Uh, which one was that? It was a car one, I'll have to find it. I can get the link. Oh, you did like a shaving one as well, right? Yeah, I've done a shaving one in the past as well. Like Gillette or whatever the fuck it was.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And basically you get paid like quite a lot for doing these. Um, and it's like, okay, cool, right? Nice, nice. And I thought, okay, this commercial seems kind of small, you know, it's like, this commercial seems kind of small, you know? So how much did he pay you? I asked because I thought this ad was like pathetic.

Yeah. I asked for $300. Because I was like, it's only gonna take like 30 minutes. You were thinking of the content. That was what was on your mind. I didn't want to be too greedy and I really wanted to get it. So I thought 300 is a normal studio rate fee. Plus like whatever. It's only gonna play on the internet.

It's not a big deal. And then I actually had to do like dubbing, like actual mouth dubbing. Oh, which you actually had to do like, so you actually have to dobing. So you actually have to dobing. had to dub out the entire scene. Yeah, so I dubbed over the dude's map. I didn't actually see the ad. I just saw you like retweeting it or tweeting about it.

It's weird. I don't think my voice fits the dude that well. It was so weird watching it because I was watching the ad and I didn't know what the process was, but what it felt like was, remember watching those old Hong Kong movies where he was like badly dubbed lip flaps over the film? Like some Kung Tao shit. Yeah, exactly.

That's what it was. Yeah, it's not bad. I mean, I mean, he was still saying what you were saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It just, I think the problem is, is that like, especially because everyone knows my voice. Yeah. The problem is that like, everyone knows my voice

and that's not what you hear when you hear my voice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Normally if, you know, you don't really know the person, you know, 90% people are gonna hear the ad aren't gonna be like, oh, yeah, it's normal, yeah, no biggie. But people who know me, you're like, what the fuck? Like, what the fuck?

It was so weird, hearing your voice come out of like, a really old man or something like that. I've done that before though. Like, that's really like, no way, it was like legit Samsung. It's like a Samsung ad, yeah, yeah, for so I don't know what it's for, but- Man, I got fucking, they got like the deal of the century.

I got fucking ripped off. Again, I mean, I priced what I thought was fair based on what the seller had told me. Right. And if I knew it was gonna be Samsung and it's gonna be like worldwide like that, I really, you know, what a fucking is. You thought you were playing them,

but in the end they were playing it, man. They played you. Also, well, fuck, it's Samsung hiring Fiverr voice actors. What the fuck? Yeah, you think they'd like, go to like professional. Yeah, it's a little. Not to say that, you know, some five of voice acts are professionals.

Hearing more stories makes me wonder, how many, how many big industry companies are, like going on these small snites, you know, like hiring Fiverr voice actors, go like putting job ads on Craiglis, or whatever. Yeah, I think, right, Raylin? So what I think happens is that, okay,

so Samsung is that like, listen guys, we have a genius advertisement here. We want a company to handle it. They go and find an ad agency, and then that agency is like, we know just the guy. They probably hire another agency who then probably hires

final agency that actually makes it. And then they've got like no budget. So they're like, get the five voice actors. Because I'm not gonna lie, a lot of the five voice actors are really fucking good. Yeah, yeah. And they're getting charged like nothing. Yeah.

I mean, I would argue that like almost everyone on that website is probably a little too overqualified for what you're paying. I mean, that either really- That's how the website works. I mean, they're either overly qualified or they're heavily under-qualified. That's true.

There's no in between. There'll be people with like a blue Yeti that are like, yeah, I guess I can give you the commercial rights to it. And, you know, 50 more words gonna run you, ah, geez, 400 bucks, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like, what the fuck?

I've had that with like artists as well. Well, like some of them are just like fucking god tier where it's like you should make an art book. And then other people are like, just started deviant art two days ago. Let's go. $100 per commission, let's go. And it's such a coin flip because even if they have

like a good portfolio, right? I've had experiences where I've hired like artists who produced like artwork or music or something. And it is not up to the level they put on their portfolio or on their puppet portfolio. You can tell it was like, here's my A-list work and you're just getting the D-list work on Fiver here, you know what I mean?

Because you're not paying me like $500 or some bullshit. Same with the voice acting as well because a lot of people get their demos done in a studio like fully like mixed, produced professionally. And then they're like, they got the fucking blue Yeti set up in a hotel room and it's like, all right, I, I don't know if this is what I paid for, you know.

So yeah, that's how I got fucking scammed. I didn't get scammed, it's my bad. Yeah, yeah. Well played Samsung. So did you record this commercial shoot or commercial recording in your own room? Yeah, yeah, I did it like I didn't do any of the treating actually because they wanted to do it.

So it was pretty painless. The only thing was that like, because the lip flaps, they had like fucking, of course they zoomed in on this man's fucking face. So the lip flaps was so pronounced. So you could see exactly which syllable and which letter he was on. So, and there was one where they sent me

where they were like, hey, can you change the script on this one line? I'm like, no. The man's lips say this thing. What do you mean, can I change the script? I can't fucking change it to what you, you've added in like three more words. How do you think I'm gonna do that?

You should have done it just to really drive home to like the Kung power element over, right? I should just sense it, been like, this is what you wanted. This is what you asked for. This is 300 bucks, by the way. this story. That would have been hilarious.

Yeah, yeah. It's like the lip flaps clearly say like, I love Samsung, but you just change it to like buy Apple. Because it's like the next level from anime dubbing, right? Because with anime dubbing. It's so much harder than anime dubbing. You have to match all like the lip flaps with the same amount of syllables, right?

It's open mouth or close mouth. No, no, three frames actually. You, I know this because I have to edit lip flaps in a bridging. Right, right. In a bridging, it's easy because you take your script and you just fucking edit these three frames of mouths, it's closed mouth, half open,

and fully open. Yeah, but with dubbing, you obviously can't edit the lip flaps or anything like that. So you just, sometimes you hear some lines, and it's really, it's a really unnatural line. You know what I mean? But you just gotta match what the animation is. Right. Yeah, it's really like makes you,

especially if you try and do it, it really makes you fucking appreciate these, like, in the countries where they mainly dub a lot of the image that they import, like, how fucking insane that is that they manage to do like full seasons of shows. Yeah. And like it's not terrible.

It's so hard because you're so constrained with other mouth shapes because you know, I mean you have to exactly copy it. And luckily this was English, but like, oh my god, and then meanwhile you have countries like Japan that are just like fuck that. Yeah, a lot of them, yeah, I've noticed Japan is just like fuck the lip flaps,

let's just talk over it. That's what makes it like a million times more hilarious. Yeah, I know. Like the voice is, the change in the voices is already hilarious, but then seeing them like say something that's just not a single mouth movement is correct. You almost like don't mind it though, I don't mind it though, because you realize that they're just like,

they're not trying to do that. Yeah, it's like, whatever, whatever, man, I don't get shit. I was watching something like fucking, like, history channel car restoration show on TV. And they had like, it was like a really like old British guy and they had like the proper like samurai sounding old dude, go, let's go to a little bit of a little bit on. And I was like, that's not what he,

I don't think that's what he sounds like, but I, all right, cool, okay. The, the Indian. What was that in front? That's what the old dude sound like in Japanese. It's like, like, mu-da-mudda-blood-muh. Like, I didn't say, Muna-Muda. Muna-Muda.

Oh my God, I fucking know, dude. Speaking of Muda, did we talk about that time we went to a Jojo bar last week? I don't think we did. So, yeah, because I wanted to talk about the Jojo bar. So, yeah. To explain, like, two weeks ago, we went to the same Jojo bar that Joey made a video on,

And it was a fucking, I don't know what is about Japan that has so many of like these small bars that are like themed, but they're like way cooler than any of like the big bars that you go to in the West or that I've been to like in England that tried to make like this themed bar. You know what I mean? Because it was so small and it was so intimate

and it was run by a guy who clearly really fucking love Jojo. Oh yeah, yeah. And I think that what impressed me the most was the fucking drink list man. Oh my God, it's so crazy. Holy fuck. Yeah, like the, because in my video as well, and when we got there, they say that you can film anything

and you take, you can take photos and videos of like any of the merch or anything like that, but you can't take a picture or video of the menu. And for the longest time, I never understood why. Like, why only the menu? But then when you actually flip through this menu and you realize there's like almost like a thousand fucking drinks. I think there's like, it's gotta be,

I'm counting my head like, maybe like around 300 drinks. Yeah, I'd say so. But it's like more than like your conventional, like barmen. Yeah. And out of those like three, four hundred drinks, half of them are originals. It just says original. Yeah.

And they're all like named after, you know, characters and phrases and whatnot. And you have to fucking like perform the phrase as well to the bartender. Yeah. And it's so like embarrassing when like you say like, oh, excuse me, can I get the... Didolidoo dido dido. And then she's like, okay, one,

dido doodoo little. Coming right up. Coming right up. That's so cool. Here's your little, doodoo. Yeah, because to explain how the menu works, Basically the menu works like a fucking, the menu is the Jojo reference, right?

So it goes by parts. So every drink is either named after a character or a stand or just a random reference. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, you have like a random catchphrase or something. Was there like a drinking part form that was like, let's kill the hoar or something like that. Yeah, yeah, let's kill the hoe.

Let's kill the hoe beach. There was like a reference to like the dead dog in part one in one of them as well. What was it something? Oh yeah, it was like, Danny. or something like that. That was his name. Yeah, yeah.

Something like that. And then there was like, oh my God, there was just so many funny sounding ones. Like I just loved it. There was one with Bohemian Rhapsody. I mean, that's a stand. I just loved that I could order a drink called a Bohemian Rhapsody.

Yeah, I just found it super cool with that. I was just basically ordering a fucking, you know, Kira Yoshikage or something like that. You know, you're just basically ordering Jojo references. And I thought that was fucking brilliant. Although there was one thing that I was like kind of upset about and I don't know if this is gonna be a spoiler. for part seven, but I was very upset

that I couldn't order a Jesus Christ. Oh, yeah, I would have liked Jesus Christ. Yeah, I was looking through, and I'm like, please say this is a drink. Was there a president of the United States as well? I don't think there was either. I don't know. No, I think there was a, was there?

There was funny Valentine. There was funny Valentine? Was there not a George Bush? A George Bush? Wait, because he's a canon character, right? I don't know. I don't know. It's like a character that's moral laughter or something, I don't fucking know.

But see, what I love about being a Jojo fan who's only watched the anime hanging out with you two, who have read way further in the manga, is that I was hanging out to this bar, and you were just like straight up putting out spoilers for part six and part seven. And the great thing about Jojo is that I was listening to these spoilers and I'm just like,

I don't think I've actually been spoiled it too. Honestly. Jojo's the only show that you can spoil without actually giving anything away. It makes so little sense that when you hear it, it's like you just don't see it ever coming when you're reading it. It's like, yeah, so in part seven,

Dio turns into a dinosaur because he's going after Jesus Jesus Christ's arm and you're just like, I guess that's what happens. That was my exact reaction. Like I knew that happened, but I didn't, like when I was reading it, I was like, oh, and I only realized it when it was happening,

I was like, oh, that's what everyone meant. Because out of context, it's like, how does this plot point supposed to fit into the story in any sense? It's hearing it out of context, it doesn't hinder your enjoyment when you actually experience I think, which is why I'm fucking looking forward to when, I'm hoping when part six and part seven gets animated.

Although hearing you guys talk about it in the bar, I might just like go out and read it honestly. It's so good, dude. It's so good. The part six and seven manga is fucking incredible. I'm a jojo like cox, jojo, cocksucker, whatever. So it's like, I mean, I'm, I'm fucking say it's always amazing. Is that what the Jojo fan is is called?

Jojo cocks suckers. That's basically what they are. What is it? All the memes where it's like a Jojo fan. when they see an unsucked cock or whatever. Is that what it is? That's the fucking mean. Yeah.

Like the best part is there is it like, you don't know if the drink, like, because it's just as original, right? So you've no idea what it is, but you kind of got to guess, is it gonna be like a fruity, easy to drink, drink? Or is it gonna be like just fucking alcohol, like straight liqueur?

And like Joey just somehow kept ordering, like just, he was like, I'll have the re and the aura, and they were all just like basically straight spirits. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I kept ordering stuff that was all like, Malibu, fruity drinks. I actually think he has a kind of like a power leveling system

going on with the drinks. Because any time you'd ordered like a main character or like a Jojo, it was always a super powerful drink. Yeah, because I know like out of all the powerful drinks I had, I think the most powerful one I had was, no, it was part three Dio. Was it really? The re was like straight vodka.

Re as well was fucking bad. And I'm like- You had to order a drink by going, ah, wry, he tootsu, on your chance. And then this cute bartender girl was like, okay, but here's something, do you think he actually remembers every drink that he made?

Because most of them are originals. I think so. I mean, he has to, right? Oh, wait, when you order the Yoshkagikira as well, it comes with a seven hand. Oh, it came with a severed hand, which I thought was fucking brilliant, man. And the sex pistols, sex pistols comes on like a roulette,

like a style table thing with a gun in the middle. Yeah, and it's just basically six shots. It's just basically six shots. Yeah, yeah, perfect. The ball shoots a shot. So you go into the menu, one, you don't know how strong the drink is gonna be, and like two, you don't know what the drink is gonna be either.

So it was just a fun experience, just working your way through the menu, and just being like, hey, this is Akira or this is like a sex pistols and just being surprised at what you got, basically. But I think as well, that's such an awesome, like, marketing move as well, because that just incentivizes you to go back to like, right, right,

I've been like, all right, I finished all the part one drinks this time around. Next week I'm gonna go back and finish all the part two drinks. finish all the part two drinks, right? It's basically like watching Jojo itself. You work through each part until you get through every part. You can't skip any of the parts. You have to like complete it. I watched how it was like five Rohan Kishubei.

It was like Rohan Kishubei at the Louvre. No, it was like, Rohan Kishab it goes to Gucci, right? That was one of the drinks, yeah. I was like, how many Rohan Kishabes are there? What the fuck? No, my favorite one was when you'd order like a Jotero and you have to like specify which part, which part Jotoro are you ordering.

Yeah, that's so awesome. It's like, I don't know, I feel like those kinds of establishments are just the most perfect place to just weep the fuck out, right? Because it's like, it forgives you for weeping out, right? You get so drunk as well, because you're like, you just wanna keep fucking drinking. Right. And it's like reasonably priced. It's like, I don't know, like $7 a drink.

Yeah, and all the cocktails were delicious as well. Yeah, well, tastes are really, really good, even though, you know, half of them fucked me up because they were so fucking strong. You just kept getting the straight shot, and I just kept getting the nice ones, and I'm like, hell yeah. I was like, oh, I want some. I want something nice to like soothe my throat

after all these fucking shots. And then orders a fucking sex pistol and just gets, it's just straight up six shots. It's not even a cocktail. I love it. Oh, it was great. But yeah, go check it out if you guys are in Nakano. What was it called again?

It's called, it's called Dio, yeah. It's in Nakano in Tokyo. So when the country opens up, go on a September visit, they have a Twitter as well. Yeah, they have Twitter. Yeah, it's right near Nakano Broadway, which if you're gonna come to Japan, I reckon like a lot of webes come to Japan

and they're like, we need to go to Akihabra, we need to go to Akihabra. But I reckon like Nakano Broadway is also very, very much. Like it's kind of like the underground version of Akihabra. It's like a condensed archaabra. Yeah, exactly. Because everything's, you can get,

most of the things you get in Akihabra just condensed down into one building. And you can basically walk around it for a lot less time than you would Akihabra. Yeah, there's just, I don't know, there's just like, in Nakuna Broadway, I feel there's just a lot more like interesting, like, otaku stores, like very, very, very niche stuff.

You might not necessarily be into, but it's just really fucking interesting to see. Because the thing about Aki Harbor is that, once you've been once, you see what the form there is. You know what I mean? You see what shows get on display. It's all like the Moe stuff normally, and it's very, it's a lot more difficult to find a lot of the niches and kind of like figurines or merchandise

that are like less mainstream. But in Nakano Broadway, you find a lot of like untapped gems and like some really cool stores there. There's this fucking store in Nakano Broadway that's like right at the entrance of Nakuna Broadway that sell Gengers from anime. Like they sell like cells from anime. Right.

And like, oh I saw that one. Yeah, yeah. What the fuck. And some of these cells, I mean like some of these cells are quite cheap because they probably would like mass produced or like were just based on shows that no one really cares about. But some of the more expensive ones are just like, holy shit. Yeah, I remember there was a cell from the end of Evangelion

that I saw from the, it's in the top floor of Nakno Broadway, if I remember correctly, and it's right at the back. But there's, but there was a cell from the cell. They have some like really classic cells. The most impressive one I saw was one from like the end of Evangelion and it was the Oscar fight as well. Oh shit. And it was, it was an expensive boy.

Yeah, how much was it? It was like, I think it was over like $10,000. Yeah, that sounds about right. For a piece of paper. I mean at that point it's basically like a museum. No, no, that's true. Yeah, yeah. How can you put a price?

How did they get that? That's what I want, right? How does that like get in the hands of someone? Is it like, maybe they like sell those in like auctions. Maybe someone like, maybe some staff member takes it and then they sell it all. It's like, it's only one sell though, I know.

Like, hey man, this crunch is brutal, man. I'm gonna take a little something home, like a little, like a little cash on the side. Like there's a snitch in this studio taking out ourselves. Yeah, but I think they're only just gonna get more expensive because now animation studios don't you sell animation anymore.

So at this point it's just become like a memorabilia, right, of history because you can't, I mean, you can get like gangas and everything like that, but you know, having a good old, fashioned cell is just a flex. Yeah, because you can't like, unlike a Genga, you can't like, you know, photocopy a cell, right?

Because it's based off like a plastic sheet. Yeah, exactly. It's much easier to tell when a cell is completely fake, because I've seen some fucking completely fake cells. And it's just like on these like flimsy pieces of paper and people paint stupid amounts of money for it because they don't know any better, right? I'm just like, no, don't, what are you doing?

It's just a fucking drawing. Do you guys miss the old, like, cell animation aesthetic compared to like much cleaner digital aesthetic of today? No. It's bitter sweet for me, I think. Like, obviously, like, you know, the digital stuff now is like so much better choreographed in the later ends.

Like, you can tell that like, oh, these camera movements were done through a computer. But I don't know, there's something really charming about, like, you know, a manual, like, camera shake. It's a cell. Ed Ed, Ed and Eddie, great animation. All sells. Dude, man, I love that.

I love the bubbly lines. I mean, it's just great. It's comfy. It's not. I mean like red line was all hand-drawn, right? And that was all-hand-drawn, right? And that's fucking, oh my God. And that took like, what, 10 years?

No, seven years? Seven years, yeah. It took a little while. It took a little while. But yet no one fucking watched it. Yeah, I mean, I will say that. I think, you know, on average, animation is better quality now because digital animation

has made things, has made it easier to get a higher level quality of animation for like most anime. Yeah. But yeah, I think you're right. There is like a definite chance. about watching good old fashioned style animation. Yeah, I definitely wouldn't want all my anime to be based off cells, but no.

So there are some like, especially like when you go back to like, you know, the whole like 80s, just like general anime aesthetic. Yeah, that like the, oh yeah, this is an 80s anime goal aesthetic. Like that on cell animation is just. It's like a bowl of rice Krispies. You're like, I never eat a fucking bowl of Rice Krispies.

But what I do, I'm like, all right, okay. It's not bad, okay. Not bad. But then the next day you're like, I don't even think about Rice Krispies. That's how I sit. You know what I mean? Like, I don't.

but I'll just, I don't give a fuck about cereal. I'll just not agree. I know literally zero things about cereal. I don't need cereal. That's why it's like, it should kind of remind you being a kid again, you know what I mean? I don't fully agree with the Rice Krispies analogy, but I'll just assume that like you're fucking...

That's what it's like... Old animation reminds me of like a bowl of cereal, right? Like, I don't eat cereal. Because frankly, I don't care for it. There I said it, okay? Controversial. No, it's not controversial. Here's a controversial thing.

When I do eat cereal, I don't eat it without milk. I eat it without milk. I want my cereal dry. I think the milk ruins it. It's better than people who say like, fucking monsters who say like, oh yeah, I use water. Okay, that is a level even I won't stoop to. I'm pretty sure that's like in the like Jiva convention

that you can't do that, right? That's like fucked up. Goes against basic human rights. Why? Yeah, I, dude, I knew a guy in my- I knew a guy in my uni, no, I saw him fucking do it too. I knew a guy in my uni who, did you call the police?

Dead ass, yeah, I was about to. I think I'm being assaulted right now. My eyes are being assaulted. No, it was fucking disgusting. I've never condoned like spitting in someone's food, but I think there's an exception to be made. Yeah, he was eating like, like, just, and it was like this basic ass corn flakes as well.

And I'm like, it's already a human rights crime to just eat corn flakes with nothing in it, let alone with water. You can't eat corn flakes, no, nothing. Depends on the corn flakes. Yeah, but like eating it with water is like, oh, that's a, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, here, let me top my water with more water.

That's like, who likes the cereal when it's the soggyest, right? Cause that's all you're doing. You're just making your cereal soggy. Exactly. Like, what are you, are you that desperate for hydration that you need to go for your fucking corn flakes? Like, what the fuck? Yeah, that's why whenever I used to eat cereal in high school,

I would eat that shit so fucking fast. Did he make it through high school? Or did he like just not make it. I mean, he was in my uni, so I guess he did. Oh shit, okay. Wow, university took it, man. I'm like, man, like, you can't even afford milk at uni. Like, are you that much of a-

I smell broke. Are you that you can't even afford milk? You just go to the tap and you're like, here we go again, another day. I didn't know what it is about uni and like communal kitchens and the one- You see shit, man. The one thing that always gets taken

in the communal kitchens is the milk. It's always the milk. I don't know why. Everything else is just like- It's just like- You can take it and you think they won't notice. That's why. But everyone does it.

Like you can label your cutlery, you can label your food to be like, don't touch this, don't touch this. You can label your milk, but it never works. Your milk will inevitably disappear in like a day or two if you don't touch it. It's like a lost currency, right? It's like, it's like water, but with calories.

I remember, I- It's water with attitude. It's water with attitude. I had a friend who was in my dorm and I liked him. And then one time, I did like him, but now, I did. I liked him. Emphasized the dude. You know, he was really high.

And then I came in. Like, stoned. Yeah, stoneed. He was really stoned. And then I walk in and I see him eating cookies and cream, Ben and Jerry's. And I'm like, I'm like, where's my, is that, that's not my cookies and cream, Ben and Jerry's, is it?

And he's like, oh, sorry, I'll buy you on tomorrow. And I'm like, I was gonna eat that tonight. I planned a great evening watching anime. I was gonna eat that. I don't want your shitty, Tesco's one pound, four kilograms of vanilla that looks brighter than like yellow on the like hexadecimal thing. I don't want that ice cream.

That tastes like shit. Why would you, that piss me off so much. Yeah, like vanilla ice cream that's like way too yellow for its own good scares me. Oh yeah, that's like that's like a fear I have. I have a fear of heights and way too yellow vanilla ice cream. It doesn't even taste like ice cream. It tastes like something.

I don't know what it is like that's like I don't wanna eat something. What's even worse than that is when you get the soft serve and the soft serve isn't white and it's yellow. Have you ever had that? No. Because at that point. Where did you get that from? Okay, it's always just in like the fucking ice cream vans

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when you download the Postmates app or sign up online. As we all know, the Postmates tagline, anything you need, anytime you need it, Post made it, including condoms. Thank you for sponsoring this episode, back to the video. In England, sometimes they have have these ice cream vans, right, that only come out that one day that it's summer,

or that it's sunny. And I've never seen them do that though. Have you never, have you ever had the soft serve from one of those ice cream vans before? Yeah, but you see it from coming out of like the machine, right? The flake, right? It's 99 flaked and some of them, they do come out white. Some of them, they come out yellow, right?

And you always know it's like the shittiest ice cream, because it's not even ice cream. There's the ice and the cream in the soft serve. With this, it's like, 70% cream and like 30% ice. So it's like, it's not even filling either. Well, wasn't you who said that you're not a fan of soft serves? I think soft serve tastes too milky.

It's like, but that's the best bit. Nah, dude. It's the fact that it's milky. It feels like I'm eating milk. I don't want to eat milk. It's so wrong. No, yeah. Soft serve is the best ice cream. Gelato is a fuck out of it.

Gelato is like eating a three-course meal while it, like, like, in one soft serve. I like how gelato can like crush everything else in my stomach down to make room. Wait, wait, wait. So you've never had like a creamy premium? No, no, I have, I have. Do you like it?

I think it's too milky. You like it, right? I mean, it's good because it's a soft serve, but I do agree that it's a bit too milky. I think, I think- Japan are obsessed with milk. I don't know what it is. I think humanity peaked in soft serves and in ice cream in general with the McFlurry.

I don't know what it is about, I don't know what it is about the McFlurry, but I can eat that shit like for an eternity. Is the McFlurry a soft serve? I mean, technically. I feel like it's in its own category of ice. Like, it's not even like, I mean, out of us three,

you're the only one who ever worked at McDonald's. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If anyone should know it's you. So it comes out of a machine, right? That kind of looks like a soft-send machine. Am I correct? I mean, is it such a sauce? It's, I don't know.

I mean, it's the same ice cream that they put in the cone for like McDonald's ice cream as well. Like the 20 cents ice shows. I don't know what it is about putting a soft serve in a cup and then putting some toppings on it and then fucking, fucking spinning it. I can't want to.

Mixing it. I don't know why that's just the magical formula, but I remember the first time I've tasted McFlurry. I like, I like all these ingredients individually, but put them together and mix them in a separate way. You put it in your pants. And I'm affluent in my pants, basically. Is the, I can't even remember this,

but is the milkshake machine and the ice cream machine the same? Do they use it? No, no, is it not. But it's the same machine, right? like two different settings. I think I've had like three McFlurries in my life. So what?

Yeah. No, because the McFlurry, the ice cream, the ice cream machine in McDonald's actually works. The milkshake, it's like 70% of the time. It's not working. Because I remember when I worked at McDonald's, I had to like refill the milkshake machine and it was like, it's just like a sack.

Like, it's just a sack of fluid. Okay. Right? And to fill this up, right? You have to like hold up this bag, loosen the cap and then like pour it in in a bag. If you ever try to pour something, out of a bag.

Yeah. It's like the fucking worst. Like there's no like faucet or anything, not faucet, fucking like lid or anything to direct it. It's just a fucking hole. Yeah, yeah. And so I'm pouring this thing and then a little bit obviously like started splashing.

Obviously when it starts splashing, you're like fucking fucking whatever and I put it all over my fucking cell from everyone and the machine was broke. And then everybody came around and leaked it off. The machine was broke for another hour because you had to clean everything up that I fucking spilled everywhere.

So what was inside the bag? It's just like cream. It's just like mix. So why is the milkshake mix? So why is the milkshake? machine always broken. They have to clean it constantly. Like that's when I was there, like, every,

they would fucking clean it every few hours, because apparently, obviously the milk can get stale really fast. Yeah. So they clean it, though? No, but it's like they have to clean it, I think like two times a day at least. I can't remember because, like...

I wouldn't be surprised if the milkshake machine was basically the same as the ice cream machine. That's because a McDonald's milkshake is basically a fucking soft serve, but you have to drink it through a straw. Yeah, it's a melted soft sauce. So, so, so, like, every time I get a McDonald's milkshake, you have to, you have this like, minute grace period where it's impossible

to drink the fucking milkshake. True, true, true. But that's great, because you eat the food and then you can drink the milkshairs. Because you try sucking in it, and the straw just fucking collapses in on his own way, you know what I mean? That's like the McDonald's milkshake experience.

You create like a mini black hole inside of my house and everything gets crushed. Like my brother worked for McDonald's and when I turned 16, I really wanted the fucking Xbox one. So I was like, I'm gonna get a job at McDonald's. You get a pay like four pounds. 10 an hour, which is like $5.00. And yeah, I fucking hated it.

And I remember my brother telling me, he was like, yeah, you can get sick of McDonald's food really fast. And I was like six months in, I'm like, I fucking love this food stuff. Because you'd get to make your own, like, you weren't supposed to, but like the managers were like, you can have this, like, go on, you can, so you can basically make your own burger.

So I used to just make like the, like in the UK we have like fried chicken sandwiches, like, like, like fans, they used like the, like they had like a better meat. I mean, it's still all fucking awful. But I would just fucking put like a handful of fucking bacon and shove it on. That was like the best part.

And then you could get like meals for like half price, but everything else was fucking awful at McDonald's. Everything was awful. Like the people with the worst part, man. They were just like, the workers or the customers? Workers, the workers. Oh really?

Because I just didn't get on with any of them. And they were all, you know, like not to be mean, but a lot of the ones that I worked with were like people that like, I wouldn't be friends with. Whenever I go to a McDonald's and I see like an employee smiling, I'm like, he's suss. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Who is he murdered today? So some, like, orange is suss right now, you know what I mean? I got, I remember I legitimately got like, I got like put, I had to go and sit in the, I got like fucking put on like detention for like 20 minutes. Because at the McDonald's. Because I was working on the fucking, like, making the chicken burgers and the burgers.

I was making the burgers and they told me off for not smiling. And I said, I said, why do I have to smile when making burgers? And they looked at me like, why did you ask that question? And they told me to go and take a break for 20 minutes. It's like a George Orwell novel, isn't it? I was like, what you mean? It's like, dystopia, everyone has to smile.

I was like, what do you mean? Why am I not fucking smiling me? I'm making a fucking burger, what do you mean? I couldn't believe, I was furious. Yeah, it's like, it's like they're at home, they make their own sandwich, it's like, shit, I forgot to smile. I couldn't believe it. And so I was like 16 one time, and the one time

when I was like, I fucking hated here, was when they were talking, and these dudes were like 25 and they were bragging to me, like both of them were bragging to me about how they were going to the party in the school next to me. Right, like 16 year olds. Yeah, and I was like, so you went to a party full of 16 year olds?

And they're like, yeah, it was sick. And I'm like, why? Why did you go to a party full of 16 year old, you're 25? And they were like, oh, I wanted to get with the girls. I'm like, what? What? Y.

Yikes. In the UK, it's legal of 16, but I was still like, what the fuck? Yeah, but still. Yeah, but still. And the only nice people there were the ones above 40, but everyone near my age was just the fucking worst. And every time I had to go and train someone, so I was there for like three months.

And after three months, you're ready to train people. You're a fucking McDonald's veteran. Because you've lasted more than 90% of the fucking employees. No joke, because- I believe that. Yeah, I believe it, but it's hilarious. They hire so, they over-hire because they know that people are gonna, like, leave.

Just on like, so I was teaching this one guy, and he was clearly like, just like not getting it and didn't wanna get it. And I could tell he was like, yeah, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna listen to this. So about two hours into his shift of me teaching him, he goes, I'm gonna get a smoke break. He just never came back.

He just left. He just straight up left. Like he never came back. And then I had to do the whole shift on my own then doing all this shit and I was like, I went to my boss and I'm like, oh, so yeah, he didn't come back. He just went for a smoke break.

He worked for smoke break about two hours ago. He just pulled like the dad leaving for smokebred being. That's what I was thinking. That's what I was thinking. That's what I was. He wasn't gonna buy cigarettes. He never came back. And he never came back.

And I was like, so what do I do? And they're like, oh, you're gonna work on your own. And I'm like, what do you mean? What do you mean? And, oh, so like, I got to, for one other time, I was making, it was the same guy, actually, it was the first hour of teaching him. And when you're- So what was the entire timeline?

How long did he work here that you had to teach him for? Three hours and a half. and he went for a smoke break. But I had to keep working because, and I asked, okay, this is really bad. Honestly, I could have just fucking sued McDonald's for this. So when we were, this really fucking hot oil,

it's like 400 degrees, some ridiculous. Like fry oil. Yeah, yeah, it's ridiculously hot. And this asshole next to me, I was like, yeah, just gently put it in, you know. Next to me while I was showing him, I'm like, yeah, so put the chicken nuggets in here and he fucking slams them in, right?

Oil went all over my hand, right? And then I asked, could I go and put it under cold water, to my boss and they were like, no, you gotta keep working. And I'm like, what? So I'm here fucking like crying of pain, making these fucking burgers, right? And then- And don't forget to smile.

Yeah, don't forget to smile. Right, don't forget to smile. I have a third degree burn. And so I'm about an hour later, it's finally my time to get a break, right? And I'm eating my burger and you can see my hand is bright pink and like blistered. And the other manager, because of course,

there's multiple managers, there's one McDonald's. The other manager comes in and is mortified. He's like, what the fuck is that? He's like, oh, I could spill oil on it. And I was, and he's like, why didn't you put your hand under water? I was like, oh, because the other manager said I couldn't. And bear mind, I was like 16.

So, you know, I should have known that I could have been like, no, fuck you, I'm putting my hand on the water. But when you're 16, if the boss tells you to do. You do what you're told, right? You do, right? Of course, of course. And then he was mortified and the other boss got in so much shit and they apologized to me profusely.

And then they were like, yeah, it's okay, you don't come into work tomorrow, it's all paved. and I was like, wow, that's so nice of them. But I realized at the time, they were just like hoping I wouldn't fucking try and sue them, right? Because I could have, like, you could have easy. I should have, honestly.

That's like some serious O H&S problem. Yeah, and then finally, when I quit, I quit prematurely because I was just done. My manager was a total bitch. The store owner was horrible. She hated dudes. Like, she would always be so nice to the women at working there.

And I, you know, and whenever I got anything wrong, you get absolutely like shit on. I know I'm taking, I know I'm talking so much, sorry. to the last story, I just can't get over the fact that the dude left after two of them. Yeah, he fucking left. My man was speed running McDonald's.

Like, I respect. Any percent. It took me like eight months to realize what he realized in two hours, right? Like, that's what like, that's disrespectful at that point, right? Just like, all right, this isn't for me. Right, right.

I'm a head out. I'm out. He just wall clicked out of there. It was like, you know what? The reduced money on the meals just isn't worth it, right? Because, okay, you gotta admit, right? I was the fucking king when when I was like, you want a lunch break?

I get half price off McDonald's meals. You want to, who wants to come? You get two meals. I remember the cool kids in school where whoever worked at the coolest place and could get like the big discount, yeah, the discount. So whoever worked in the fucking gaming store, man, they were the king.

Yeah, like, yeah, because I could be my mate on lunch. I'm like, we can get a whole McDonald's meal for two pounds, whole meal, any size you want. Treat yourself, treat yourself. Yeah, it was great. I mean, I got, I could have got fat. So anyway, I'm working like a shift, right? And then I'd actually have been training to be a lifeguard.

I did all the staff and I applied to be a lifeguard. And you know when you work for a place, you gotta put down a reference. I'd never, have you ever had this where they actually contact the reference? No, I'd never had that. So I just thought it was like a myth. I thought it was like a bluff.

It was like, go on, name someone. Name someone. That's fucking dare you to call me. Name someone who will and Terry it, I dare you. Yeah. So they actually fucking called my McDonald's whilst I was working my shift. Right. So they do it and they come in like,

so Connor, are you looking for other employment? And I'm like, uh, why? Like, what would you mean? Like, because we just got, a call from the council asking for a reference for you to be a lifeguard. What's up with that? You didn't tell us.

And I was like in my head, I'm like, why do I have to tell you? Like fuck you, you pay me $4 an hour. Like what do I owe you? Yeah, what are they gonna be? Like you can check out, but you can never leave. Yeah, and I was like, oh, well, yeah, I mean, I was looking for a better job

and they fucking like flipped a switch when I said a better job. They were like, what do you mean a better job? I think McDonald's a bad job and I was like, well, I mean, I'm like, I'm looking around and I'm like, what's what's my one? It's like how little self-awareness they seem to have over there, right?

Because the thing is right, not, I don't wanna shit on some of these guys, because I know I've met some managers at McDonald's that were genuinely like super nice guys, and they have such like, you know, they understand like it's a McDonald's, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the managers of my McDonald's, they were like,

you're trying to say, like, you're trying to say, my managerial job is like a joke? Like, and I'm, in my head, I'm kind of like, yeah? Yeah, kinda. Yes, actually. Did you see the food thing, safety thing, we had to fill out online?

That was a joke, come on. It's like, don't show. Shit on the lettuce, obviously don't shit on the lettuce. So the manager's really pissed off, right? And the store owner is coming in 10 minutes. And he's like, I want you to talk to the store owner and explain yourself when he comes in. I'm like, are you serious?

I'm 16. So they really did not want to make you leave on. They really like fucking put me through the ringer dude for this $4 an hour, do you like, can you believe that? So you want your Xbox right. And my mom wondered why I fucking hated working here. And she was like, no, you're just over exaggerating Connor. And I'm like, no, it was awful.

So the store owner comes in, right? And they made me go and talk to her in front of the customers. And she's rinsing me in front of these customers, like shouting at me in front of these customers. And I thought that was like weird. And then I was like about a cry and I'm like, you know what? I quit.

I quit. He said it, he said it. I'm going for a smoke break. I'm gonna take my smoke break. My mom was so pissed off at me. She was like, you have like, because I'd actually been accepted for the other job.

And I had a whole like a month and a half left before I start the other job. She's like, I can't believe you quit a month and a half before your next job, Connor. Like, that's really like, what the fuck? And I was like, mom, you don't understand how awful this was. It's McDonald's.

Yeah, and like, she was just chewing me out in front of these customers. And like, I was just like, I don't, I'm not being paid enough to be humiliated in front of these random people, right? Like, I don't, I don't, come on, man. Like, I am so fucking young. Did you smile the entire time?

No, I was like, I was just sitting there like, okay, show the smile as you getting raced. Yeah, and as she was just doing, I'm like, all right, you know what, fuck it, I'm done, like I'm not doing this. I'll finish this shift, but I'm done after this. I'm not doing this. Yeah, I never heard from them again.

And then, yeah, I went there like three years later after I'd like been killing on YouTube and then the manager, the one who's a dickhead was like, what are you doing now, Connor? I'm like, well, I'm kinda- Oh, wouldn't you want to know. Well, you know, I just got back from LA, you know, I went to visit my friends in Japan.

You know, I was just making, you know, I work when I want, make my own hours, you know, it's great, you know. You should have just been like, oh, I eat a Burger King pretty regularly. Just fill my tax return. Damn, did you know the tax rate so high when you earn so much money?

Dude, damn, that shit, that hurts, man. I'm sure. Anyway, can I have a big flurry? Yeah. I mean, some of them were nice, but yeah, everyone was an asshole. Yeah, I mean, like, working in retail is like, this isn't a diss at anyone who works in retail,

but it is, as someone who has worked in retail before, you know, a lot of people in college or in high school that get their first job normally works in retail and it's normally just to fuel whatever hobby they have. Just stick up for yourself, man. That's like this thing that I wish I did. Like I wish I like just didn't roll over. Because I was very obedient as a kid

and I didn't really like, I was always just taught like whatever the elders or the person in charge says. Yeah, exactly. They know the best, right? I don't know what the fuck I was doing at McDonald's. Like what the fuck was I doing? Like I had no idea what I was doing half the time. I just did shit and I would do, oh my God.

I used to spend like, when they were like, go and get some fries out of the freezer. I used to spend like 10 minutes just sitting in there because I was like, fuck, dude, what am I doing, man? And it's so hot in the kitchen that when you get to the, you're like, who's gonna get the fries? Me? You just had a fucking existential crisis.

It's just getting fries. The McDonald's freezer has become like a panic room. I would literally just go there for like five, 10 minutes as long as I could get away with and just sit there and be like, fuck. Fuck! Imagine if you open up the freezes,

like three other employees. It's like everyone just hiding in the freezer. I was so jibed. There was this one dude and this whole job was just moving the crates into the like freezer and that was his whole job and I'm like, I want that guy's job. Fuck being in front of the deep friar man.

That made my acne so bad. Oh, I bet. Like I remember when I worked at co-op, there would be always these odd jobs. I wish I want, I wish I could get. Like there would be, one guy's job was just to fucking go outside and collect all the trolleys that people have taken to their cars.

Oh my God, I want that. That's so nice because you can just like, you don't have to interact with anybody, right? Yeah. Because I was always on the till, right? Yeah. My least favorite part of the job was when anyone would try to make small talk.

And I'm just like, look, I'm just here to fucking scan your food and take your money. Why are you trying to talk to me? I don't give a shit about how your day is going. Just talk, nope. I got that smile talk as well, because like when they talk to you, you gotta smile and you gotta be having a good day

no matter what's going on. And I'd just be like, I don't know, I would, I didn't have like any bad experiences with the customers. But I mean, yeah, I had some like fucking awful managers. What's up with those cashiers, right? Where they would like take fucking joy out of IDing you? What's up with that?

You know what I mean? Like if you, you ever get that? Finally, my power. It's like literally like I'm being pulled over by the cops. Yeah, yeah. You for like a beer. It's like, ID please. Yeah.

Hmm. Hmm. Because at that moment in time, they have all power. Yeah. They have them. Yeah. Nice address. That's a nice area to living.

Like, I hate that. Like every time, like, because in Australia, right, like, whenever you go, to a bottle, when you go to a liquor store, they have to ID like everybody. Even if you like clearly look like, it's challenge 25, I think it's the movie.

I remember like, I went to bottler with my dad once and my dad got ID'd. And I remember, like, he was like, obviously they ID'd me because I was like 22 or whatever, right? Like obviously, but then the guy looked at my dad and was like, ID, please. My dad straight up said, you fucking kidding me? Do you know how many gray hairs I have on my face?

Of course I'm not fucking 20 years old. And the kid was like, all right, fair enough. Yeah, I hate that though. Like, it's the movement of looking down at your ID and then just looking at you with your eyes like this. Yeah. It's that movement. I'm like, what is this fucking LA Noir? Like, I would hate the process whenever I was working co-op

and I had to ask for ID because I was 16 at the time as well. Like, for me, it just felt wrong asking someone for ID when I was obviously like younger than them. Yeah, yeah. I'd have to ask for ID, it'd be like the most nervous stutter. Like it would be like, it would be like, it was as if like the power dynamic

was like the other way around. So I'd be like, can I, can I have your ID please? And honestly like, if they gave them their idea, I'm just like, okay, they're probably overage. Yeah, you can even check it. Oh my God. I don't have the balls to ask my manager to come check this man.

Can you check these guys ID please? If they've gone through all the trouble to get them, fine. Yeah, fine, why not? No, it was, it was, It was like, remember your 18th birthday though, the first time you go to buy like a fucking bottle of beer. And admittedly, I don't remember my 18th birthday

for numerous reasons. I don't remember what I did, but I do remember being like, yeah, being able to finally buy out. I remember that first pint or that first beer that I got. And I was like, it was like, the biggest fucking empowering power trip that I've like, that I had felt

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So anyway, let's move on to the actual topic of the time. That was a very long tangent. 50-minute tangent, currently on trash-tank. I've seen the sub-reddit. People are like, they just make a whole episode of tangents. I mean, that's kind of what just happened. We went from anime sales to McFlurries to McDonald's. One can argue like what is even the tangent anymore?

I was going through my bag, my life. Do you just have like fucking papers in your bag that just crushed down that you're like, what fuck is in this shit? Then you finally like claw it out and you're like, God, that's disgusting. But I pulled one out and it was like an Anime Expo pamphlet from when I went to Anime Expo.

Really? And I was like, I miss Anime Expo so much. I miss anime conventions. anime conventions, period. So much, man. I miss large crowds. I miss getting sick from all the people fucking coughing. I never thought I'd miss con flu.

God, I just wanna be sneezed on them, don't worry about dying. Yeah, I just wanna handshake with like the sweatiest weaves in the time. I wanna hug that's a little too damp for my liking, just like, you know, I miss it all in it. I wanna put a hand on my shoulder and the shoulder's like really wet for some reason.

I miss going into the gaming room and just feeling like the dampness of the atmosphere. Yeah. Like the fucking, I don't know what it is about the gaming room and every, because everyone's sweating. God, God, it's all the men from all the players accumulating. It's all the game of you.

Like the fucking room needs its own weather report, you know? You know what I mean? Like a humidity report. Smash room, cloudy. There's always mushrooms growing in that room. 92% humidity. Yeah, but let's talk about the actual topic of this episode, which is funny or weird conventions stories.

Well, just conventions, period. Yeah, just conventions. Because like, we've, I've been, seriously craving conventions. Honestly, I never thought I would be conventions. Yeah, yeah. Like I, I think I hit a new low the other day, guys, because being stuck in the country, you know,

I'm very used to, you know, flying out and going to conventions and stuff. So, like, Casey and I, that video started getting recommended to me of, like, him sitting in, like, first-class seats. Oh, I saw in the Emirates one. Yeah, and then I watched one, and then I watched the entire series,

because I just missed the feeling of being in an eight- So I'm just like, God, I wish that was me right. It's like, it is chair reclining. Oh God, it's so uncomfortable. I miss it, I miss it so much. Every time Sydney comes in to be like, oh, beef, please. It's just created our turbulence.

It's like, this is fun. Yeah, so I remember, I think it was a, I don't remember what was last episode or the episode before, but you were talking about like, this is the longest period I've ever been, like, that I've spent not being on a plane. Yeah. And so many comments and that the suburb and being like, wow,

that was the most privileged thing gone as I said. Yeah, it's true. But it's true. No, because even, you know, I didn't come from a very privileged background, but it's just, it's just part of coming from an international background, I would say, because I mean, I'm, you know, I'm full, like my full blood is Thai, but I was raised in England. So any chance we could get to fly back home to Thailand, we did.

And that was just, that was just part of my life. You know, every year I'd go back and visit grandma and visit my family again. And I'm from America, right? And Fitzs from America as well. Yeah. Damn, good, good privilege to flack to go on. I'm not privileged, I'm blessed.

Yeah, but like, I don't know, like just, it made me miss, like, this year with just the lack of conventions because I thought at least that, like, maybe there might be like some smaller conventions that we could go to here. Because in my, in the back of my head, like, just the other day, I was the same though in Japan. Like, I missed the kind of scummy atmosphere

that American cons have. But I mean, like, I've been a few, yeah, I get that. But I mean, I've been to a few conventions in Japan. It's still pretty fucking fun. Because like, just the other day, in the back of my head, I was like, well, I'm probably stuck in Japan until what, at least like end of April, I think the Japanese government said.

So in my head I was like, oh, that means I can go to Winter Comiquette, finally. But then I was like, wait, conventions aren't going on. Like, fuck! The one time I can go to Winter Comic-Ket and Winter Comic-Kets not happening. Exactly. It fucking sucks.

Yeah. All the stories I heard about Comiket is just basically, it's, you go in and you buy the merchandise or buy the Dojinchi or whatever, and then you leave. You know, that's what I heard. Yeah, I mean, it's not like the convention experience that we have in America. Think of Anime Expo or any convention,

but the entire convention is the artist alley. Right. That's what Comic-Ket is. Right. It's just a stupid amount of just tables and desks where Dojin artists are selling their Dojans. Honestly, though, honestly, I remember, you know, So when you first go to conventions, right? I remember like the first conventions you go to,

I try to go to every panel. I'd have a fucking full on schedule where I'm really like, okay, this is the time I'm going to go to the panel, this is the time I'm gonna hit like the artist alley. This is gonna be the time we hit up like the convention floor and everything. And now you go to enough conventions

and you're just like, whatever. Now you go to enough conventions, just like, let's go to Chick-fil-A. I've never been to a panel that isn't my friends or my own. Yeah, me neither. I've never like just seen a panel, like that looks fun, I'll go.

Like I just don't, like I'd rather eat. Yeah. Eating's great, but I remember like, I go to hang out with people. Now my favorite place to go in the actual convention is probably the artist, Ali. Because the artist Ali, when I first started going, was the place that I never hit up.

And then now you go to enough conventions and you live in Japan as well, and you go to like the main hall. And most of the stuff you can find in the main hall is like synonymous across all the conventions. But I feel like artist alley is where you find the actual cool shit. That's the thing, right?

It's like the only, usually with conventions, the only thing about a convention a lot of the times that's completely different to any other convention is the artist out of yeah. Because you always find some fucking artist or whatever where it's like, oh shit, I've never seen that before. Because you go down like to the regular thing and as you said, it's like, oh, I could just fucking buy

this in archibah for like a third of the price. Yeah, exactly. What's the point? And the thing is, especially being on trash days, I've realized how limited my wardrobe is. Oh yeah, like cycling through all the t-shirts I have because most of the time, every time I go to an anime convention,

I buy like two or three t-shirts from the artist alley. So just because I haven't gone to the year any conventions this year, I haven't been able to recycle any of my new clothes or anything like that. Yeah, I saw a comment that was like, oh my God, Connors wearing the same shirt that he wore in episode like two, and it's like episode 19.

I'm like, how many fucking shirts do you own? Do you expect to throw them away when I'm done? I still haven't worn the same shirt yet. Because now that it's getting colder, I can finally bust out my long sleeves. So I'm like, thank God, I was about to run out of my long short sleeve t-shirts. I wore one shirt like a lot recently

and I got a fucking comment that was like, why are you always wearing that shirt? I'm like, you never heard of a fucking laundry machine? Like, what the fuck? What do you mean? Like, why am I just wearing the same shirt? It's like what? Do you wear a shirt once and you throw away? Do you not wash your shirts?

I'm confused. Why is this weird? I don't understand. Yeah, but I mean like that's all they see, right? A week span on trash taste, it might as well just be a day to them. Yeah, it's made me self-conscious about just how many clothes I have in my wardrobe and how many shirts I can get away with, without recycling the same thing,

too many times that people can notice. Yeah, right. I mean, especially with you, because you very rarely, like, actually make a physical appearance in your videos, right? Yeah, exactly. Normally, you don't have to care about. Normally, I'm just a fucking disembodied voice.

Normally I'm just a fucking disembodied voice. I mean, who knows, like, gone might be butt naked when he's fucking filming the audio for, you never know. I like to hope so. Yeah, anyway. Back to conventions. Yes, this is the answer, by the way.

Back to conventions. All right, I mean, fuck, what should we talk about question? and funny stories. I mean, like just, I guess, memorable stories. It doesn't necessarily have to be funny, but just like some memorable stories. We do like a convention survival guide.

Oh, okay, sure, sure, sure. I'm sure we keep working out stories that like, I don't know, I feel like, you know, here's the real privilege, last. I have, I've only gone to like one convention, like not as like a guest or like, before I was a YouTuber essentially. So I feel like my experience of cons

is like vastly different from other people's like, Because like, I feel like as an attendee, AX is like, I don't. Here he goes. Here he goes. Because, okay, when you hear the lines are like five hours to get in.

Yeah. And I mean, let's be honest, we can apply for the badge that just lets us like walk right. Yeah, we can just walk right in. We can just jump right into it. Yeah, we can jump right into the pit. I'm not gonna lie, if you told me I had a line of five hours to get an AX, I'd be like, no, I'm going home.

Yeah. What I don't understand about some people at AX is the people who are willingly waiting three hours to get to a panel. Oh fuck that. Or like a premiere or something like that. And I'm just thinking, you know, I like anime. But that shit's gonna be out on Crunchford

in like a month. Like I can wait a month, you know what I mean? I don't need to be at the premiere unless it's like, you know, I get a pass or something. What was it the MyHia Academia movie? Last year or the year before had like a four hour line or something. Yeah, yeah.

Ridiculous like that. I'm like, guys, it's gonna be out on Crunchroll in like two weeks. The only reason I watched the pro man movie was because someone from G-Kids or in Trigger got me in. And I was like, I'm not Q in four hours. You kidding me? I'm, no way.

I don't care, like, it could be like the second coming of Christ and I'm like, five hour line? Nah, no, no, no, no, get out of here, man. Do you know how many chick flas I can get in that time? You know how many beers I can drink in five hours? Like, come on, man, like, yeah. I can have a good time in five hours. You could just go down to the fucking bar or park,

which is what I spend most my time doing now at conventions. Right. Just like talking to different people and catching up with different people, because that to me is the real convention experience. There's the convention itself. But after I'd say about two conventions, I was like, I'd just rather just talk to people

and just talk to other anime pads rather than going to the actual convention itself. Do you ever try and get people in to stuff with you if they don't have like the badge? Oh yeah, all the time. Yeah, yeah, I love like seeing like, right, bullshit, right, okay. Yeah, no, he's with me, he's with me, yeah,

he's just got his badge, yeah, yeah. Like, VIP access, come. Yeah, yeah, you're with me. You want to, like, I really got a, So my friend, what's your name again? John? Yeah, John. Sometimes you have like, fuck, here we go.

I gotta try and bulls, we're gonna try and bulls. All of this. Yeah, they're all part of the Japanese. Yeah, security guard, security guard. You gotta, you gotta figure some bullshit on the thing, and then like, you gotta- I have four managers. You gotta hope, because the thing,

the problem is with some conventions, like, I guess their problem is, not my problem. Good thing for me. They've so many volunteers, the volunteers don't know shit. Yeah, so you can just bullshit to them. Like, yeah, no, no, with me, that's cool, it's cool, go away, get around. If anything at Anime Expo, I've found that

there's always at least one volunteer who knows who I am. Yeah, they'll let you win. They're like, oh, anime man, fuck it. Yeah, come in, bro, come in. Oh yeah, the five other people behind you. Yeah, come in, fuck it. You're probably friends with them, right? You're the last to take a picture with you

while you're like smuggling your friend. It's like, I feel bad, you know. Like I think one thing to like nail down is the difference between anime Expo and basically every other convention. Yeah, I feel like anime Expo exists this in its own bubble. And I think like everyone should experience

anime expo like once. Cause it's kind of like, it's not even a convention at this point, it's kind of like, and it's kind of like a convention and a business expo all at once, you know what I mean? So you kind of get a little bit of everything and a little bit of nothing as well, because if you don't plan yourself correctly,

then you just end up experiencing lines in anime expo. It's a cluster fuck in every sense of the world. I spoke to like some people who are like, yeah, it's AX good, I'm planning to go alone. I'm like, do not go to AX alone. That is like, define good. I'm like, you're probably go to a local con alone

and probably makes a mate. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, everyone already has their group with them. Yeah, so it's like, I- Like, you don't have enough time to hang out with the group that you have already, right? Let alone hanging out with like randomers, you know what I mean? Yeah.

Fuck. I just had like so many flashbacks of hanging out with random people that were terribly wrong. Because, okay, you've all been there, right? Everyone goes to a convention, right? Yeah. You know, you've gotta decide, I really wanna go to this convention.

but fuck hotel rooms are expensive. So it's like, how many people can I fit in this hotel to reduce it to a point where I'm comfortable, right? Like, and I think we said this on one podcast where like if you're in charge of the booking, you get dibs on the bed, right? So that's why I should be in charge of the booking because I'm like, I'm getting the bed,

I'm getting the best bed, and I'm getting the key. All you guys are getting the four. Because oh my God, when, if the hotel doesn't ask you how many keys you want, it's like, there's two keys between six of you. And it's like, how do we distribute? How do we decide who gets a key? You know, like, like, I book it.

The person with the key has the power. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Because you can come and go as you want. Because there's nothing worse than just sitting there with all your bags being like, calling up your mate. Yeah. Not fucking picking up and you're like, I want to go back to the hotel room. Answer me, you can't.

Like mobile service in the convention is fucking awful. It's not existent. It's not exist. You just basically got to, you basically got to pretend you're back in like the fucking 18th century. Like how do I contact Joey, especially when you're in America? We don't have American phones either. Oh. contract to my British phone that gives me American service, which is usable.

In most places. I just buy another sim. In most places. But in like a convention, you are getting like zero fucking service. It's like a fucking Greek marathon. Right. You have to like ask someone to like, can you run to the other side of the convention and tell Joey that I'm here? It's like, all right, I'll see you soon. Have you ever stayed in a room with people who you're like, fuck, I regret staying in a room with them? Uh, yeah, but I'm not going to name name. I'm not. Name your name? All right, fine. I can't name my name. but I mean you stayed with some Discord people, right?

Yeah, I stayed with a bunch of people on Discord. And that always goes well. That's a fucking nightmare. That sounds like a nightmare. That sounds like a nightmare. I was like the pseudo leader of the group. Right. And there was just so many fucking problems.

And this is also when I just started YouTube and I hadn't like, I hadn't formally met, I met you, no, I'd met Sydney, didn't get to see you, but we were gonna hang out, we were planned to, and I hadn't met you yet. Right, I don't think so. So this was kind of like, I don't know, I was gonna make mates,

you know, I was planning to hang out with you guys for the majority of- Oh, was this the first AX-Sac? This is the first A-X I went to. You spend most of your time with us. Yeah, I remember that. So I had told the people I was staying with, like, hey, this is like straight up, just like a room thing. Like, I'm gonna be hanging out with other people,

like for like 99% of this. Told them that many times. I think like one of them, like, didn't quite get the memo and he was like really hoping that I would introduce him to like everyone and be like, yo, here's my big. best made, he's, hey, you know. And the problem was, is he was a fucking creep. So like, I didn't really wanna hang out with him.

Yeah. And it wasn't like, at first he was a little strange, you know, he was an American and he was like a military dude. And in my experience, military dudes are like 50-50 on whether they're like totally chill or just fucking psychotic. I actually totally agree. I've met so many military dudes

and there is no in between. There's no in between. Either they're a fucking psycho Or they're the most chillest dudes you can ever imagine. Everywhere I've met, it's always like that. It's like no, they're like no chill. Yeah. So he's like kind of nice, you know. He's whatever, it's a little weird.

And then like one time I remember I met you at a party and then like he was texting me the whole time and I think I mentioned where I was. And as we're leaving this party, do you remember this? Yeah, I remember this. We go outside and he's waiting there. And like one a.m. He's like, hey Connor, how are you doing, man? Can I join?

And we're like getting an Uber and I'm like, uh, no man. We're getting an Uber somewhere else. I'm really sorry, man. because it's like how do you introduce, it's like kind of creepy, because everyone's already seen that he's waiting outside,

and it's really creepy and it's like, it's the over enthusiasm, right? Because the thing about anime conventions, that's so difficult for a lot of people to like wrap their heads around is just like, what is socially accepted? Because, you know what I mean? Social rules are thrown out the window.

When you don't know someone, I think it's like a social rule where you shouldn't be bringing your friends in, like, unless you have like a reason to. Yeah. But if you, if you don't, Like, okay, because if you bring someone in to a friend group and that guy's an asshole or a creep,

that's on me. That's on you. I brought him in. And I didn't know him. And I got kind of signs that he was a creep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I didn't want to bring him in because I was like, if I bring him to his party

and he starts like fucking chatting up gigacall night, like hey man, I love your videos, could you take a pick and I smell your penis? Like, you know what I mean? It's like, it's like kind of looks terrible on me. So I was like, nah. And the party was at my house or much. Your Airbnb and there's like any like 10 of us.

So it's really intimate. So I told, I was like, listen, man, like, I'm really sorry, dude, but like, I don't really know, like, gone or, like, anyone in this group pretty well. Like, I wouldn't write you, I just don't feel, like, comfortable doing it. I explained to him, and he was so pissed off.

And, uh, he was pissed off. He was so pissed off. So then, I came back at like 5 a.m. to my shitty hotel in like, uh, it's the, like, suburbs of LA. Right. It was like near Korea town, wasn't it? Uh, no, it was further away.

It was like, even like, further out. It was really far out. And it was really sketchy. It was like a, what was it called? It wasn't even like a holiday in it. It's one of the even the more budget chains. Like a motel. It was bad, it was really bad.

And at this hotel, for some reason at midnight, all the cards reset. So if you came back after midnight, you'd go to the front desk, but the front desk wasn't open. So if you came back after midnight, you'd hope someone else is already in the room. Or just wait out your door till 6 a.m. Until someone comes.

Yeah, it's stupid. So he was in the room and he'd been like drinking alone in his room. And I felt really bad, but so I'm like, hey man, let me in, let me in, whatever, you know. It's like 5 a.m. Like, dude, I really wanna fucking sleep. So he opens the door and comes out,

oh shit, blocking the door so I couldn't get in. Right. I'm like, yo, what the fuck, man? Like, let me in. I wanna sleep, it's five a-in. And he's like, absolutely hammered. He's like, listen, Connor, I saw you all cool, man. Why didn't you let me party?

I'm like, dude, I'm so sorry, but like not now, man, it's 5 a.m. Let me sleep. You can talk about it in the morning. Dude, please let me sleep. And then whatever. So we slept, whatever. Finally, I let me in.

But I thought, It's weird that he, because I was like, I was ignoring him, I'm not trying to open the door, he's blocking me and I'm like, fuck man, let me in. It's fine, man, I paid for this room, let me sleep. And like, near the end, one of the other peoples in my room who was like, a lot smaller, and like I guess he thought they were cute.

And then they called me up and he's like, hey, he just tried to pay me to suck his dick. And I'm like, what the fuck? What the fuck? I'm like, what is happening in this hotel room? What? And then I was like, I am so fucking glad I didn't introduce you to any of my friends.

If you're gonna ask people to suck your dick for money, are you kidding me? So, need is to say, I went to the hotel room and just explained him like, hey, what the fuck man? Don't do that, you asshole. Like, this is my friend, don't make them uncomfortable and then he didn't do anything. And he stayed somewhere else for like the last night

because I was like, dude, don't stay in this room with them. And so I've never stayed with any random people on Discord that I've never met before ever again. I've heard so many horror stories from Discord. I don't know what it is about Discord. And I'm gonna call it like the Discord Hotel Room. Yeah. Those never ever go right.

Like I've, because even like the best you can do is have like a little bit of drama. But there's never zero drama. Nobody ever comes out there with just like, yeah, everyone was just chill. We had the most chillest time. Everyone was understanding everything that's playing on Discord just ends up horrible.

What is it about that? It's because you can't like really know who's weird on Discord. Like the problem is is that you don't really you know how weird people are until you meet them. Yeah, exactly. You also, it's, it's doubly true on Discord as well, where you're here for this, like,

you're here for this server, which is like, solely where you talk about this one, you know, common interest or whatever, and you rarely talk about your own personality. Right, right, right. I just don't understand the mentality though, of like, looking at a Discord group and being like, okay, there's three other people in here,

never seen their faces, I didn't care, because I never met them before, I'm gonna stay in a room with them overnight. I was broke, Joey, were you off from me? Like, like, at least like, you know, hang out with them outside. I understand to all the convention goes out there who have done the same thing as me because you're broke as fuck.

Like, you gotta do what you gotta do. And plus, I knew I could take care of myself. Like, I know I'm fine. Like, I didn't worry, but I, you know, when I hear like, like, 18-old girls that do it, and I'm like, whoa, with like, with dudes. Yeah. I'm like, that's just calling for a disaster.

I mean, like, it's a recipe for disaster, right? Because I've only stayed in, I've already, I've only gone to conventions after I had like a, no, like after I had a full-time job. So like, even if it wasn't like a great paying job, at least I could just afford my own hotel room and stuff like that. Like just a really cheap motel room.

You know what I mean? But if I had gone before I was like say 21, 22, when I was just a broke uni student or just, God forbid, like before even uni, I can imagine so many horrible situations that could have arose, Right, right, right. Which kind of like, there's no real way

to protect yourself around that, especially if you're just rooming with random people on Discord, which is such a coin flip, you know? And I would argue like, is the anime con really that worth it? Yeah, yeah, I understand. Honestly, you know what, all that weird shit that happened aside that, I don't think I told you guys that ever, but yeah.

I mean, all of that weird shit, the side that I had to deal with, I'll fucking do it again, easy. Yeah, but you fucking do anything. For content. No, I mean, that was fun. I mean, like the convention was fun. I mean, the convention was fun.

That was a nuisance, but you know, I mean, it's nice exercise in knowing that I can tell someone to fuck off, you know. I don't know what, I mean, it is what it is. I knew that when I did that, there was a chance that it could go horribly wrong. And it did go horribly wrong. And I learned my lesson, and I'm not doing that again.

But you said you would if you have the chance. No, I mean, as in, I understand if, you know, when you're like 18, you got like, like 200 bucks to your name. Right. The fucking ticket is 50 bucks. You gotta get that hotel room down to 100 bucks somehow. It doesn't matter how many people gotta go in that room.

You gotta divide the room with the amount of bodies that will fit in it. You know what I mean? If you need to sleep on the floor, you sleep on the floor. People sleep on the bed, they pay a premium. It makes it sound like a fucking human trafficking. It is a human, have you ever been to a fucking convention room, Joey? Jesus Christ.

Like a fucking bomb could go off in there and it would be less messy than it is You've just like, the amount of like, and if you got a cost player in there, say goodbye to floor space, say goodbye to fucking floor space. Because some reason they are allergic to closing their fucking suitcase.

Yeah. It has to be wide open the whole fucking time. Can't close it, okay, fine. Yeah, I don't know, I mean, it's whatever. You should try it some time. No, thank you. I can afford my own hotel room. I'm good, dude.

For the frills, dude, fucking roll that dice, dude, just go with it, dude. Who knows what stories will get you. Gotta get you thrills somehow, right? I don't know, I like, I know this sounds like super, I guess it sounds weird or dangerous some people. I love just meeting new people in that kind of way. I mean, look, I don't mind meeting new people either,

but- I don't mind meeting a new person for the first time in my hotel. I don't wanna pull a gacha roll where I might end up, you know, sleeping with a fucking murder, you know? I don't mind that, I'll take that all, you know? You might get the fucking coolest friend for life by doing that.

There's other ways to meet cool friends for life, man. But you get that fucking story if we met in an anime convention, right? That's what I'm saying. You'll do anything for content. Dude, I love, I love a, spoken like a true YouTuber. I just, no, I don't even think of it as content.

I just love like the idea of like making a friend through such a weird and unconventional way. Like I feel like it makes such a good friendship. I don't know. I mean, again, but that's another coin flip though. I feel, I feel like I'm somewhere in the middle of both of you here. Cause like I do like meeting new people

and everything like that and I used to be that guy was just like up for anything and be like, yeah, I'll go, I'll go meet down at like a dark alleyway, whatever. But like, I've had like enough bad experiences to be like, you know what, maybe I'll, maybe I'll do like a, just a little bit of a background check before, before I, before I, before I jump right into it, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah. I've met so many people on Discord who've turned out to be

really sketchy. Yeah. Yeah. So I just got a, there's a lot of dudes on, on Discord who like underage girls and you've got to call that shit out when you've see any signs of it, man. Yeah, I feel like a lot of, especially in an anime conventions, a lot of people, especially of obviously, like, anime, you know, anime fans and weed and everything, they don't have, the confidence to confront people when they see some shit happening. So I feel like with a lot of convention stories that I've heard, it's mostly brought down to people

just, people just didn't know how to handle the situation. Because they've never seen it happen in front of them. And so the first time you experience it, you just, you kind of just freeze up to be like, what's, is this happening now? Is this happening now? You know what I mean? And no matter of what you tell yourself,

you're going to do at that moment, you're totally unprepared for that moment. So I will, I will, I would say like the best advice I could give is if you see anything bad happening, like don't let that shit lie, call it out. Also, especially if they're your friends. Like I know a lot of people who are like,

it's hard to like, you know, bollick your friend and be like, dude, what the fuck. But you gotta call that shit out. Yeah. It's like if you let it slide, they'll just keep doing it. We gotta stamp this shit out of our community because we saw what happened to the smash community, right? And I don't know what's happened

behind the scene of the anime community. I mean, I don't wanna imagine it because I, yeah, I wasn't part of the community when some of the worst stories I've heard happened behind the scenes. I mean, yeah, with like the Seattle YouTuber that I used to do stuff with, and I've had people on Discord who I considered friends

who later on found out that they did some fucking horrible stuff. And like, honestly, they were like, you know, there were signs and I just ignored it because I was like, oh, well, I mean, I think that, you know, they're just quirky, they're not gonna hurt anyone, but like, you just gotta call that shit out when you see it, unfortunately.

So if you, if it's your friend, please call them out and bring it up. Especially if it's a friend, you know, only through the internet. Because, you know, we, I mean, we all met through the internet, right? But I mean, we've also met in real life and we've hung out so many times before

I really knew your guys as real personality and everything like that, right? So if it's some guy or some girl, you've met through the internet, especially if you've Discord or something and you've only talked to them through the internet, meeting friends, making friends on the internet, is completely fine.

But understand that that's totally different from being a friend IRL. And until you've hung out IRL a few times, you really can't have a true grasp with their personality and what they might be. And that's why it's always such a gamble, right? Like when you meet, again, like,

when you meet that person on Discord, and then you be like, all right, let's go to a convention together. And you're hanging out with a completely different person. Yeah. You know, this is like, oh, you weren't like this when we were chatting on Discord. Like, what the fuck? Like, yeah, and I've had a lot of experiences like that where I would be talking to someone online

and then I'd be like, oh, you're going to AX, oh, I'm going to AX as well, let's meet up and hang out. And then I talk to them, I'm like, wow. You earned what I expected. at all, yeah, you are not the same person I texted two days ago. Man, fuck. For better or worse, right? Sometimes they're way cool in real life,

sometimes they're just like, oof, in real life. And there's so many social norms that you, like, I don't know what, I can think of all the dumb shit that's happening. Common sense just doesn't seem to like make sense. Like, common sense just isn't common in anime conventions, right? Especially when it comes to, like, meeting people and stuff. Because you talked about, you talked about, you know, introducing the the one friend to like your friend group or something.

What happens if you're like, you're going to this party, right? And you can be like, okay, you can bring like this one friend that you might have kind of want to introduce, but they're with a group of like five, six people. And they're like, can you like get all these people in as well? And you're like, what is it about these people who are like, oh, plus one? Oh, so plus one group of friends, right? Like that's what it means, yeah, all right, cool.

I got like seven people coming. It's hard because obviously you don't want to be like, yeah, you know, only one person can come in, but you're also gonna have the, balls to just suddenly be like, all right, mates, I've got the sick invitation from a guy, I'm gonna go to that, I hope you all understand. Like, that's what I would be like.

I'd be like, hey man, I got an opportunity that I don't really get, come across often, can I take it? Please, don't be mad at me. Yeah, yeah. I think it's just understanding that it's a convention, people, you know, you're not, you're not always gonna hang out with the same friend group all the time. So I feel like if you, if you have like some other people

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To be given appropriate, like the most inappropriate thing happened to me at a UK convention, surprisingly. Oh, okay. I think I've told this story like a million times, but fuck it, we'll say it here again. It's the one where like, uh, I mean, I should tell the story as it happened in order. Okay, naturally.

So I'm just finished with a panel, right? You know, killed it, answered all these questions, like a boss. Yeah, I haven't heard that phrase in a while. Wow, was this 2004? Yeah, right. And then when you're done with the panel, you're like, all right, I'll take pictures outside,

you know, the line, so I'm taking pictures and the first one comes up, first girl. She's like 14, 13. And I'm taking a picture, and she's like smiling like, hey, by the way, can I grab your ass? And I'm like. Oh, this one. Yeah, I'm like, what?

What do you mean? Do you know what you just said, little girl? And she was like, uh, and I was like, um, no, I think, no, no, why would you ask that? What would you say? And then, you know, next picture, fine, next picture, fine. And as I'm taking this next picture,

I feel this like grip, like tightening on my ass. That like, and it's getting- This grip, this grip gets like fucking iron clad on my ass. And I'm like turning around, I'm like, hey, what the fuck? And I was in awe because I turned around and she's just like, like this. And I'm like, what are you doing in my head?

I'm like, ah, because I'm like, how the fuck do I react to this? I didn't swatter away like a fly. Be gone! No, fucked! And so I was like, what the, so she grabbed it, and then when I turned around, she fucking ran off. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

What the fuck? And I'm looking at the guy who was helping me to my panel. I'm like, yeah, what the fuck was that? He's like, dude, what the fuck? And he went to go after her, like to like tell her off, but she went. How many years ago was this? It was like three or four?

Is it MCM? No, this was like a really small London one, like a tiny one. Because like, a similar thing happened to me at like some of the events. one of the early MCMs, right? Right, right, right. And I was, so I was, I was having a meetup.

And, uh, it was like, it was like one of, one of my very first meetups. And it was just as I, like, just after I started dating Sid. So it was like Sydney's first UK anime convention as well. And so I was having this meetup and we were taking pictures and everything. And then this girl comes to take a picture. And you can immediately, you can immediately tell that she was not respecting my personal boundaries. She was very, very touchy feeling. The worst.

Yeah. And Sidney's like, raise eyes, laser in on it immediately, right? Immediately. I could feel like the death clear on this girl without having to look at Sydney, right? Like in the middle of the fucking, like Harry Potter Voldemort, like,

long battle. Like, so, so I know that Sydney's watching everything. And she's like being really touchy feet. And I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm trying to just be like, okay, you know, I have my personal boundaries, I'll take a picture and everything. And so we're going for the picture.

And she like goes on for like a full on hug. Like it's like, I'm just there being like the, hey, and she just grabs me like that, just hugs me. And then I, I didn't need to see what Sidney's face was, but I could feel it. I could feel it, right?

And then afterwards, I'm like, oh yeah, thank you people for coming to my meetup. And she goes in for a fucking kiss. And I had to like, turn my cheek, I like, I turned my cheek in time, but she goes from my mouth and then I turn it to- What? So I'm your mouth?

And she hits, she hits my cheek. And then I just hear, Sydney, like I've never heard Sydney make this noise ever again, but she fucking hissed. She's a fucking snake. She's like, s, like, what does that do? I don't know. And then, hey, as same as your girl,

she just fucking runs off before I could say anything. And I'm just like, what just happened? What am I supposed to do in this situation? You know what the worst part was? When I got home that day, I go on fucking Twitter, and she replied to my tweet, being like, hi, I'm the girl who grabbed your ass. It felt good.

And I was like, first of all, and then you were like, block. First of all, thank you. Second of all, what the fuck? What the fuck? I was like, you know that's, I would probably be like, dude, that was super fucking inappropriate.

Like, why did she do that? And she was like, oh, I didn't realize. I didn't realize. What the fuck, you didn't realize? Which family? What kind of family were you raised in? Where it's like, oh yes, hello. So what are they doing?

Like fucking measuring your firmness every fucking day? What year was this? Oh shit, this must have been like, 2000, like 16, 17. That's the thing, right. It's like, because I have a similar story that happened around that time. You do? What the fuck?

Yeah, I've- Because my mom's in about 2000. Yeah, we all fucking survived something here. God dang! Mine was around like 2017, it was at AX, and this is, I had just, like, started going out with Aki, but this is before we went public. So this is like the convention that I met Aki in

and that was like two days, like, literally two days after we decided, like, oh yeah, let's start going out. And we were doing a signing together, This fucking girl comes up to me. And she's dressed in like, I think it was like Madoka Magi or something, but she had like a giant wand, right? Like a massive like staff. And she puts it down and she's like, hi Joey and I'm like,

oh no, it's one of these kinds of girls. All right, hey, what's up? And she's like, can you sign the stuff? I'm like, yeah, sure, I start signing it. And then she's like, also here's a question, but can I be your anime Expo Wifu? And I just kind of stopped and- How to trigger a flight of flight of me.

And the moment she said that I just kind of stopped, I just looked up, I was like, could you say that again, please? Because in my head, I'm starting panicking. And same with Sydney, right? I could feel the fucking glare of hockey right on my fucking neck. Like I didn't even have to look over,

I'm like, I know you're staring at it. And of course, right, I have the pressure from here and the pressure right in front of me, right? There's two women staring at me for totally different reasons. And I just fucking panicked, right? I couldn't like, because at that point I was like, I couldn't say like, Yeah, short jokingly, because my woman is fucking glaring.

There's no right to answer in that situation. But I often couldn't say no, right? Because I don't wanna hurt her feelings. And she lined up, you know, all this time to like meet me. And so I just fucking panicked and I said, I don't know, I got ranks. Oh my God, Joey.

You didn't have to murder her like that. She's like, I go ranks. And no, and then like, and then she replied back being like, then can I come to the top of the round? And then I said, Oh, you gotta learn to give up, man. And I was like, ah, I don't know, man, like it takes time.

I was just bullshit in the entire time. And the moment, and she's like, oh, okay, no worries. Again, tried to go in for a kiss, and I just fucking, like, dodged that shit, so she only got me on the chick and then she walked off. And then, Raki, under her breath was like, what did you mean by ranks?

I was like, I'm sorry, like, I panicked. What are you supposed to say in that situation? There is no right answer, but... There is no right answer, but... I definitely said the most incorrect. That was definitely the wrong answer. I felt so bad after that. Just politely declined them, be like,

oh, thank you, but no. I know, but like, I was at that stage where I really couldn't say no. Like, it was at that point where I didn't know any better, right? That was like, probably like my second or third signing session ever, right? You mean like the story I taught with Sydney where you don't know how to react in this situation?

You don't know how to react, and because you don't wanna make them upset, right? Because they line up all this time. You're like, oh, you fucking lined up for me. I'm not anything special. So like, that was at the point as well where like any absurd thing that they would request, I would just fucking do it just to make them happy.

So I remember like at this like Canada convention, the first dude that came up to me was like, can you sign my ass? And I'm like, oh, okay. And like I thought it was like just his pants, right? Yeah. This guy fully fucking dacks, like his pants off. Shows his- In the middle of the convention fucking horse?

First dude in the line, plants his bare ass on the table and was like, sign here. Did you fucking wipe down this table? Oh my, yeah, I mean, you know, I mean, you know, there's a bottle of hand sanitizer where to any sign anything, I just fucking emptied that shit. Sanitized. That's so disgusting. I know. I think I would vomit on his ass.

Yeah, so like I signed in making sure not to actually touch his ass, like with my hand and I did it, I was like... I need one of those like garbage picking up things and just like, fuck it. So the tongs? Yeah, the tongs like from far away. I'm far away. Like a radioactive suit on.

But you know that, again, like, that was the point. What is wrong with anime fans? I don't know. I was like, I didn't know any. And like, same convention as the guy who planted his ass. There was another girl who came up. She looked really fucking- What convention was this?

Oh, this, I think this is Otaku Thorn in Montreal. And this girl, like, came up, looked and sounded really fucking normal, right? Until she said, can you sign my arm? And she had, like, drawn out, like, a box for me to sign on the arm. I'm like, oh, that's kind of weird. I'm like, I have a piece of paper,

and she's like, no, no, I want you to sign my arm. So I was like, all right. And I had a lot of people to go through, right? So I just fucking signed it quickly. And I'm like, oh, do you want like a piece of paper for me to sign it on? And she's like, oh, no, no, no, no, no. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no.

Don't, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. No, no, no. I did a really shitty job as well. It was like the most, like, fucking messed up signature I've ever did. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, please don't do that. I'm begging you.

I actually said like, I'm begging you, don't fucking do that. And she's just like, okay, I'll think about it. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. Don't think about it. I'm just fucking, I don't know. I don't know what it, like, but that's the thing, right?

It's like, I don't know if it's because of my lack of inex, like, experience of being in situations like that, or just the fact that conventions have gotten so much more calm in the last like five years. Or it's a combination of both because you don't hear that kind of shit,

like last year, I mean, I feel like things are way more regulated now than it used to be because I remember first time going to conventions, like some of my first signings. It was kind of like anything goes, you know what I mean? And like last year they had like a ticketing system or maybe it was a year before that where they had like a proper ticketing system

because I remember I'd be booked out to do signings for like an hour and then it would end up going for like two hours and a half. And there was nothing that like regulated what was okay and what wasn't I guess that's like the benefit of the big conventions, right? Is that because there are so many people. And they probably know how popular you are.

They're like, if your signing session is one hour, then it's fucking one hour. And we're cutting off the line. And I think also, I think people, it's gotten more in people's ideas or in people's heads now that just because you're at an anime convention, social norms still do exist. Because I remember in the before time,

and I can't imagine what it was like even before I started going to conventions, but it seemed like going to an anime conventions, just like all rules, fell out the window. You could get away with anything. I mean, I watched footage of like anime Expo at like fucking 2005, right?

And like, you know, that was during like the whole like glomp and like Yowie pad thing. And I'm just like, I can't imagine fucking being there and like staying sane. I'm like, I don't want to like walk through the convention hall with the fear that a random person is gonna jump dive at me. Because it's, lol, XD, glomph. It turns from like an anime convention

to like a survival horror. Yeah. Who's gonna invade my personal space now? I'm like pressing X-Doubt on everyone. Who's next? I feel like he probably came from a place of like, I mean, I assume that it was the one time of the year where they get to meet anime fans, right?

And like outside of that, you pretty can get to see them, right? Like, yeah. But now I mean, everyone's a fucking anime fan. Right, that's, I think that's what it is. It's so mainstream now. All it is now is everyone just goes to a place to buy anime merch and get drunk together. Yeah, yeah, pretty much.

Pretty much. So it's like, I understand, that back then probably was a little over the top because this is the only fucking chance you get to be a fucking weep. Like every other day of the year, you can't be a webe, but if you're gonna bully. Yeah, I feel like the golden period for me

for anime conventions where it was like, you could get away with things that were like fun, but I feel like the point where it starts to get really, really regulated was around 2016 onwards-ish. Because- I mean, as it should, because there was so much fucking sketchy shit happening in the back. Yeah, that was a lot of sketchy shit. I mean, that was around the time

when the whole like cosplay isn't consent. Yeah, which which definitely, it's like, why would you even need to write that out? That like is a failure on humanity. Yeah, which we need to implement this rule. Yeah, that's, it's like, oh yes, I need something written down on paper to know that being overly sexual towards cosplays

is a bad thing. Yeah, exactly, right. Fucking. Well, I remember like, I've, because I've been going to London MCM Expo for like a fair few years now. Yeah, I remember, I remember when they, so to, To explain London MCM Expo, it's like the biggest kind of,

it's pretty fucking terrible convention. It's a convention in inverted commas, because it's more like an, it is an expo. It just sells you stuff, and there's not really anything to do there if you're like a fan. It's kind of like you can buy stuff, and pretty much all anyone does is just hang out with their friends.

Exactly. So there's this grass bits in MCA outside of the convention center, which everywhere, where everyone used to hang out, and now it's closed off, but I feel like some of my best memories were when people were just doing like the most random, All that was where all the alcohol bottles were. Yeah.

Were you there that year where there was, they did that fight club? No. It's a fight club? Yeah. So, so, so, I don't know why the mental image drove a bunch of weaves beating each other off. It's hilarious.

Fucking Neruto music blasting. No, it was a fight club, but it was like a fight club. So it was like, it was like the equivalent of a mosh pit or something like that. But I remember there was like, you know, was like, you know, there was obviously the usual, you know, you got the fucking Jedi's dueling it out. But I remember the funniest one I saw was,

there was these two anime fans. And one was like the scorniest, shortest anime fan who was like vitamin D, vitamin D deficient. You know, you know, you know, some of us, you know, that the stereo, that, that stereo- Like the clearly sick dude. Yeah, skeletal. And then on the other side was the fucking biggest,

like, he wasn't like a, But let's say he was a, he was a big lad. Yeah, yeah, he was a big lad. Hefty fell on. Yeah, and this was like the most uneven fight I had ever seen. Like, forget about weight classes here, you know? But they should like, start punching each other.

So I guess they just tried to like make each other fall over, right? Right, right. So this, this scrawny, this scrawny dude, fucking full on sprints into this guy trying to like push him. And he just fucking bounces off him. Like he's in like, like he's playing four guys or something, right? And then the guy just sits on him. And that was the end of the fight.

Were they all drunk? Yes, everyone was drunk. Oh, okay, okay. It just crushes the poor. Because the convention ends at like six, but that area is still full of people drinking. Like, it's just outside. That sounds awesome. I would love to be there.

Just to be a spectator. It's kind of fiesta. It's kind of crazy. It's kind of fiesta. But now it's like a lot more controlled of what you can get away with, which it's a bit of a shame because I liked, I liked that kind of thing. There's literally like an off license

in a Tesco within like 100 meters of it. So that's not a good idea. People are just buying, buying, buying, drinks, drinks. And it's like it's, it's a bit of a, and I think the hotel hadics is literally a hotel right outside of it. Right, right, right.

Why are you all fucking getting drunk? Why is this big dude sitting on this scorny kid? Why is there a fight club? Why are people cheering? I think, I think it was that fight club that made the convention actually, actually cord enough. Look at the grass,

the grass area. It was worth it. Anyone who was at that MCM convention knows that that fight club was hilarious as fuck. Yeah, that sounds fucking awesome. Health and safety issues aside. It is fun when you walk to try to make a venture. You see something that clearly will get shut down

within an hour. You're like, I'm just gonna sit and watch this. This shit go down. This is gonna be funny. I see that shit even regularly at anime expo still to this day, like outside of the West Wing, you know where all the cosplays are. I see some shit there where I'm just like,

why, where are the staff? Who is regulated? Can we talk about how fucking crazy it is, like meeting people who watch your videos? It's so fucking surreal. How fucking weird is that? I never get used to it. It's so fucking strange.

I'm like, now I have like a conditioned response that I could be like, okay, this is how I should respond to like, and. Activating execution 101. But that's why- Activate McDonald's smile. But that's why getting recognized anywhere but conventions, you're so unprepared for it

because you just, I just never get used to that fear. Because I'm just like, man, I'm just a fucking dude talks about anime online. I mean, it's already surprising when people at conventions like come up to you and recognize you. But what's weirder is where you're like, nowhere near a fucking convention. And it's just like a random guy or girl

who's just seized, like that fucking dude in Singapore. Oh my God. Oh my God. Do you know this? Yeah, you can tell it. Okay, so we were at a Singapore convention. I think it was anime, what's it called?

Anime Festival Asia or something like that. AFA. AFA. Fafed Singapore. And we were outside the convention, we're like getting lunch with something. It was me, Sydney and Joey, I believe. And Alan, I think.

And Alan, yes. So there were four of us there. And we were just walking in one of the, in just like this random shopping mall. And then we just hear this screech. This is like, this is like, this is like the loudest screech I've ever heard in my life. It was like a banshee screech.

Like you would have thought, you would have thought like someone came through like a truck and was like running people over. Exactly. And it immediately triggered my flight or flight, flight or flight like instincts, right? Everybody turned around like, what the fuck? What the fuck's going on?

And all we see is this fucking kid bolting it towards Joey, right? And I'm like, time just fucking stopped at that moment. I'm like, am I about to witness my fucking friend die in front of my, I didn't find my eyes? Is he about to get stabbed or something? He's like, the dude was like full on like assassin like just fucking like low as fuck like this

running towards me through this giant crowd. And as the crowd is potting, you can see this kid just coming straight. I'm like, always coming for me. I'm gonna die. And because he's like, he's like Naritor running almost. I can't see his hands right. So I'm like, this guy's probably got a knife or something.

Like he's about to stab me. Yeah. So this, I'm just prepared to die. He stops like right here. He just screeches to a halt and he says, I love you, Joey. I'm like,

meanwhile poop is falling out of my pants. Meanwhile, we're just like, oh, okay, Joey's not dead, okay. Oh, what's terrifying? And he's like, Can you take a photo with me? I'm like, yeah. Yeah, I didn't like Felix say one time, like Southeast Asian fans like the craziest?

Yeah, they are. In public, they just scream. Absolutely. Shout out to the Southeast Asian fans. If they was great. It's on like a whole different level from like any convention we've been to in America. Like I remember watching Joey walk from one panel to another.

It was basically like watching Justin Bieber walk through like a pre- that's gotta be an ego boost though. I mean, it felt pretty good, not gonna lie. I love it when you're just like chilling and then like someone in the line next, she's like, oh, you're Joe? Yeah. And he's like, yeah, yeah. I think as well, like it might have been

because like that Singapore AFA, It was a first for that convention for a lot of reasons because I think I was like the first YouTuber that had ever been invited. And also I was the first ever guest at that convention that didn't charge for signatures. Yeah, and like it, cause like, I remember when I was sitting there like waiting,

the staff was like, all right, so tell me how much do the signies cost? Like what are you talking about? It's like, how much do it cost? Like $5, $10, how much is it? So that I can tell people in the line, I'm like, it's free. And like, what do you mean? What do you mean?

Yeah, he was like, what? What do you mean? What do you mean it's free? They couldn't process it. They couldn't process it. They was like, what do you mean it's free? I'm like, it's fucking free. I've heard like some other guests get annoyed

when YouTube is turned up and don't charge because they're like, well, you're just devaluing, you're making us look like ripoffs. And I'm like, well, I mean, you just kind of like signing stuff. Yeah, I mean, it's just like. If I'm selling something like a print or saying that like, you know, I brought you all.

But that's the thing, right, right, right, right, right. So it's like, people can just fucking buy this. Yeah, I feel like if they, like, I shouldn't charge someone to sign something. They already paid the entrance fee to get in the car in the car. Exactly, exactly, exactly.

And they're like already buying like the merch that I collab with, right? So it's like I'm not gonna charge them anymore. Yeah, when you see these like fucking, like, it's like the guy who sneezed on set on Star Wars charge $50 for a signature and it's like, what do you mean? I was a foam trooper number 1000,000, it's like, who the fuck are you? I just, I really disagree with them doing that

and they charge so much. I really hate it. Like I think it's so conceited. Like give them something physical, right? Yeah, exactly. Like this should be like, an item. My signature should not be worth money.

No, I don't know. It should be like a nice little memorabilia, but I don't know anyone who- I think it completely destroys the meaning of a signature, right, like from a famous person, in my opinion. I don't know, I would just, I just feel bad charging people. Yeah, me too. I think I'm like the greatest fucking house.

Like the worst I could, I would get away with is, you know, charging. I haven't even like charged for prints or anything like that because I've never done prints, but or like- It's a pain to sort out. Yeah, it's a pain to sort out. sort out, but at least give them something physical, which is what I say. Exactly, exactly.

If, you know, we need to do something like that. Right, right. But again, like, we're doing well enough for ourselves. Like, I'm not that fucking desperate to be like, I have 500 prints, they all need to go. I guess sometimes the conventions can't really, like, like, pay you much for your time, so it's like, I get it for some people want to like,

oh yeah, get some prints in there, you know, like that's not really the reason I go to conventions, right? I just want to fucking ain't my fans. Any conventions of Southeast Asia I want to invite us? Any conventions and, yeah, Any conventions in general? Any conventions in general?

We're always open. We're always open. We miss it so much. After this fucking drought of conventions, we really need to fucking go to stuff. Like, I mean, like crazy people and inappropriate people aside, like, my God, I think that's anything better than meeting someone is just like nice and just like, hey, I watch your videos.

Because it's so crazy because you don't really get to ever, I know YouTube to say this all time. You don't get to see people who watch your videos. No. Because when I see a video that gets like 300,000 views, I'm like, oh, yeah, cool. Yeah, cool. But then you see, whenever you see 300 people when you're, Like that's crazy that 300 people in one room would wanna meet me. It like blows my mind and then like most of them

are so fucking sweet, so nice. Yeah. It's like, man, I can't help but just like, you wanna hug, you wanna hug? It's also just feels so nice especially when it's like a small convention as well where it's like the ratio of like attendees to people who know you is like staggering.

And it's so hard to try to voice your gratitude without sounding like that typical corny YouTuber, but that's just, that's- I appreciate you guys so much. You want a hug, ask me, I'll give you one. Probably, even if you're sweaty, I'll give you a fat hug. I will give you a hug too. I just put pressure gone into saying that.

Gone has to do it now. Gone wasn't gonna give you a hug until I said it first. Just wanted to make that clear. I'm not gonna give you a little. I'm kidding, okay. You know, they're not ranked enough for Joey's like, sorry, sorry. Yeah, I am ranks.

Jerry's rank, sorry, sorry. But like, you know, that's like the other thing as well. Like, I don't wanna like, dwell on the whole like, cosplay consent thing, right? But like, I feel that- You can ask me for a hug. I don't give a shit. But like I feel that like now, like at least with me, my general rule of thumb is like,

especially if it's of a female, right? Like, cause I know like dudes don't give a shit if I hug them, right? Cause it's like just a fucking boy. Oh yeah, let me, let me cut your dick. Yeah, yeah. Let me hold your balls. Don't do that, please don't do that, as a joke.

Your balls heavy, you'll tell you. Oh, okay. But like, I feel that like because of the whole thing with especially recently, how like cons have become a little bit more sensitive. Like at least my general rule of thumb is, if you're a female or you're not like a dude comes up to me and like wants to take a photo,

I always ask, like, is it all right? If I put my hand on your shoulder or like, you know. Or like I wait for them to be like, can I hug you? I do that, but like sometimes I forget and then I'm like, fuck, I just did it without asking. Yeah, I'm a horrible person. Like fuck, are they gonna like, are they gonna go online and say if I can kill?

It's only until the last A.X where I like, physically told myself, I need to get into the habit of doing this. Yeah, yeah, say me like, before I was like, I was just like trying to read the air. Yeah. But now I just straight up, ask, you know what I mean? Yeah, I used to just be like, And I used to just be like, okay,

I kinda get the vibe that you're okay with it. Like that's just risky. Yeah, because a lot of them are just like, of course you can. Like, why is that even a question? I'm like, no, you don't understand. I have to ask. Because it's weird, right?

Because now, because you know, when we started off, we, we, I don't think any YouTuber ever thinks they're gonna get, you know, any kind of attention or any kind of success. So you kind of come into it with like the small, small person mentality. And sometimes you just gotta realize that,

you can't get away with that anymore. Right. Unfortunately, even though you still see yourself as that same person who started off doing like YouTube videos in your mom's room's basement or whether. I still feel like that. I still feel like that now. Yeah.

But you know, you got a- But the numbers don't lie, right? You gotta adapt eventually. It's sad, I mean, I feel like I have to like, I mean, in some aspects it makes you like be a better person, right? Yeah. In general, like I've got an asshole because I'll get called out for- Yeah, yeah. Which is good, but then also I feel like,

I have to make sure everything in my life is completely 100% like, like, there is no doubt in anyone's mind that I'm totally like in the clear. Whereas most people it's like, okay 90%, 70% I'm not an asshole. It's like, all right, that's enough, right? But you know, it's kind of, and also, like I feel as well when you meet fans,

sometimes they're really nervous because obviously they don't know you and I feel like they're more nervous to put their arm around you. And so I feel like they're like waiting for you to take the lead. Right, which is, you know, again, like it makes it harder

because like I used to just be like, all right, I guess they seem like they want it, like, or where they stand for the photo. Because sometimes, you know, they'll just literally just stand in position, puff, like, touching you basically. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think that's like another good reason why, like, should ask, yeah, I need to get in the habit.

Because they also, some of them are like, oh yeah, of course, like they weren't expecting it. I mean, I'm sure I'll come out of this pandemic being like. Yeah, I'm sure the pandemic would change a lot of the behavior about what's allowed and everything like that. A million hoverhand photos. Although I do love, I do love the hoverhand photos. There's something about it, man.

There's the best part is when they ask for a hover hand photo. And I'm just like, you get it, you get it. And whenever I get someone asked me like, can you do a hover hand, I'm like, I can one up that. Let's do a hover hug. But you're just like doing this, but you're not touching at all. Yeah, it's fucking great. I wonder will conventions, will everyone be required

to wear a mask when they finally have? Probably, like the first two years. I mean, that depends on when the conventions are gonna open up. Exactly. I doubt that there will be any conventions open next year. Yeah. Yeah, I just don't think, I don't think the world. Didn't they hold one in like fucking Agahoe or some shit? Yeah, but I mean. Like in the middle of the pandemic.

Yeah, exactly. But you know, they got fucking slam for that, right? Yeah. Like, I don't think there'll be any big profile conventions happening to at least the second half the year. That's like, and the whole e-conventions are like, get that out of you. Get that out. I don't want to do an e-convention. Are you kidding me?

I mean, I did a couple of e-convisions this year. Did you actually? Yeah, yeah. I did one for, uh, I did one for anime con South Africa. Oh, I think I saw that, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I did like a pre-recorded interview for that. Oh, shit.

I wanted to, the only reason why I wanted to do that was because when the pandemic is over, I really wanna fucking go to South Africa. So it's just like, it's just connection building. So it's like, so. Joey's just playing with the five head here. Yeah, I don't know, like I can't, I can't afford, I can't get myself to like attend.

No, no. Because like attending e-conventions is like, it's kind of like the equivalent of when you're like watching, like watching a food video or something, and you're watching this like three star Michelin Chef like produced this like gorgeous looking And then you're sitting there with like your combini meal. You're like, hmm, this is, this is just as satisfying.

This is almost the same. You know what it means? No, I completely get that. You like, tear open the paper salt. Like, yeah, yeah, I'm going to be it. My three-star, N.S.G. Dude, you hate it when you make a fucking great meal. You got a great, or maybe you order to dobre eats

and you fucking add it all before like four minutes into the, like, the one-hour movie you were gonna watch. Like, fuck, I'm gonna put this plate away, or it's gonna get dirty and like, I shouldn't, I fucking ate that so much. I don't know how to pace myself with food. I don't do it. It's like the movies.

My popcorn's eaten before we even like. That's why I don't even order the popcorn, right? What do you mean? Why would you not do that? I don't order, I don't order popcorn. Animal, yeah. It's so good here. Why would you not want it?

Because it's fucking popcorn. Popcorn's that thing that I never get myself, but whenever someone offers. It's just corn with attitude, isn't it? I'll take it. My God. So like, have you guys had any creepy experiences with people or fans at conventions?

Absolutely, yeah. Oh, yeah. A cool science? Because I'd say like, this, the moment when I stopped, like, where I had to like really pay attention to who I was hang out with was, because of this one convention I went to, I think it was like three, three, four years ago.

I can't remember exactly how many years it's been. But it was like my first proper creepy stalker experience. So- Like a YouTube title. That's a story-time animation time. Yeah, exactly. Why wasting this for the podcast, man? Make a story, I'm there.

I just make like a draw my life, right? But yeah, I was, I was at this convention and there was like a communal area. And you know, at conventions, what I like doing at conventions is meeting random people. So meeting fans, talking with people. And the thing is I've met like a lot of my closest friends, I've met through conventions.

Like our friend group in England, 90% of those people were people who I met at conventions who were fans of me. So that's why I had always tried to like, you know, be as open. as possible no matter who it was. And I feel like this was the point when I realized, hey, maybe my reach is a little bigger

than, you know, what I'm comfortable with because I was with, you know, hanging out of just this random group of people and it was me and Sydney. And we were, you know, we were having a great time. We were just chatting shit about anime and other shit in like this middle, the middle of this convention hall.

And then it was like, you know, it was time to just disperse and go go our own ways. Right, right. So we, so me and Sydney start walking back to our hotel rooms and everyone else goes their own ways. And then this, this one kid starts, you know, starts walking the same direction with us, right? Oh God, is it the same guy from Akihabra?

No, no, it's not the same guy. Compared to the guy in Akihabra, the guy in Akihabra was like a fucking, fucking saint. Yikes. So this, this kid follow, this kid follows us. And I asked, and so I was trying to be polite to be like, oh, where, you know, where you're staying? And he was like, oh, I'm staying in the same hotel

as you guys. Now, keep in mind, you know, I talked with the kid, you know, quite a bit, you know, when we hang out in a group. Right, so you thought it was plausible that you told him your hotel. Yeah, yeah. And I was, you know, I wasn't wasted,

but I was, you know, I had a few drinks in me. And I was feeling friendly, so I was like, whatever, just making casual chit chat. And he seemed normal enough. You know, it didn't seem like a creep or anything like that. Right, right. And so we go back, we go to a hotel, and then we get in the lift

and then he goes in the lift with us and we're like, oh, uh, what, what floor are you? Uh, no, no, sorry, so we get, we get in the lift and I, I, uh, I hit my floor and I asked, oh, what floor are you? And he goes, oh, it's the same floor as you. Oh, no. And not, at this point, nothing clicked in,

nothing clicked in my mind, right? Not, not, because I was so innocent at that point. I was like, oh, there's lots of rooms in that floor too. And both me and Sydney were like, oh, what a coincidence. You know, we're on the same floor. Well, that's a huge coincidence. And this point, I'm just like, you know,

I just want to go to my bed and sleep. I'm way too tired. I'm like, yeah, cool. That's a huge coincidence. So we go up to the floor. And then, so I go in, I go to my room first. And Sydney is just a bit behind me because I'm tired as fuck. And I just want to get into my hotel room.

And so I go to my, I go to the door, put my key in. I turn around. And the kids, the kid's still there. And I'm just like, what are you doing? And he straight up tells me, oh no, I just, I just completely lied. I just wanted to see why you were staying.

And like, I'm like, what the fuck do I say to this? And then apparently, apparently, apparently when I wasn't looking, before I had asked that, he tried to go in for a kiss with Sydney. And Sydney told me this after we had got in our hotel room. And then after he said, oh no, I'm lying.

I just wanted to see where you guys were living. Bye. And he just fucks off. I'm like, what, do I call security? Well, what the, what the fuck? Cause I didn't even get his name. So I didn't know, I didn't know who this kid was. I, I, I, I met it was just this random kid that I had met.

He knew who I was obviously, but it was this random kid who had met just on the convention floor. And so this was the first time I had like a fucking freak out of my hotel room to be like, yo shit, we gotta call security. Would it be like, can we get like, can someone to stand outside this door? Do we change hotel rooms? What the fuck do we do? And that was the exact moment when I'm just like, okay, I gotta be fucking careful about who I hang out

with at conventions. So if I'm a bit standoffish, when I meet someone newer conventions, blame that guy, okay? That's why the PTSD stands from. That's where the PTSD comes from. Holy shit. Yeah. What the fuck?

I had something kind of similar to that. I mean, I've had multiple experiences similar to that, but I think the creepiest one that I ever had was, it wasn't even in a hotel room. Right. I was staying, it was like the first time, so I'd been to Autogrethon in Montreal a couple of times. Yeah, but the first- Everything fucking weird happened.

Yeah, legit. Like nothing against Montreal. Montreal's a beautiful city, but all the weird shit happened to me there. So I was staying in my friend's place at the time, like, because he lived like five minutes train from the convention, so I'm like, fuck it, I'll stay at his. And we were staying with like a couple of other friends. And this was before the convention

it even started, right? But I was a guest at that convention. So people around Montreal knew that I was gonna be at that convention. Right. And it was like midnight, right? Like 12 a.m. and I was just fucking around with my friends and we get a knock on the door and there's like, and I was like, okay, I opened the door

and there's just a box sitting there. Like not even a package, like not even mail, just a box. And I'm like, is this a bomb? What is this? And I told my, like my friend who I'm, you know, the place, I was like, did you get a package? And it was like, no. I'm like, did anyone here get a pack?

He's like, no. What's in the box? And then I flipped the box over and it says to Joey. Oh my God. And I was like, oh no. I fucking looked around, I was like, there's no one around. So I took the box in, I don't know why the fuck I took the box in.

I took the box and closed the door and I slowly opened it and it was a Tupperware container of, you know what Poutine is? Yeah, no. Poutine is like, it's this like dish in. It's cheesy chips. It's cheesy chips basically with gravy. It's like a French-Canadian thing.

I fucking cheesey chips. Yeah, Putin's fucking delicious, right? But it was a Tupperware for Putin. And on top of the Tupperware, it said, I'm a huge fan of you, Joey. I made some Putin for you. And I'm just- Was it still hot? It was still hot.

How did you know where you were staying? That's exactly what I wanna know. That's why I was shitting my pants. Was it good? I didn't eat it. What the fuck? I would eat that? No.

Dude, okay. I've seen higarashi, dude. I've seen the scenes where you eat the fucking Ohagi and there's a giant needle I was like, I wasn't gonna have that shit. Right, one time, right. I got gifted like a whole ass bento box, like a legit, like big ass benton box.

Right, yeah. And someone made a curry in it, like a whole curry. And I wasn't gonna eat it, but I was in the hotel room. It was like 12 a.m. and I was fucking starving. Right. So I remember I had the bento box in my room. And I take this curry, and I didn't have like a knife or fork, so I'm not gonna have a fucking hotel room. Yeah. But I had like the ice pick thing.

Yeah. Like knife. It was like a fork, like two prongs. So I was just like fucking scooping up this curry. And I was eating it and it fucking tastes so good. It was such a good curry. Oh no, I fucking remembered like. But yeah, I was like so fucking ghetto eating that with like my fucking ice pick. Yeah, I wouldn't do that.

I just remember though with the Poutine thing. I didn't eat it because I was too fucking scared to it. I mean like, but my friend was like, fucking I'll eat it. I was eating that. It's the wall. But then he ate it and the first bite he took, he was like, why is there a giant hair in this?

Oh my God. There was none of that. And I'm like, there could be two options here. Either one, she or I'm assuming it's a girl, she accidentally like drop the hair in or she was like, I'm gonna get Joey to eat some of my hair. My DNA is in Joey now. Yeah, my DNA is inside Joey.

I'm like, oh, just thinking about that, she was so fucking creepy. I'm gonna be an S tier, Joey, you're like. I'm gonna be at the top of his ranks when a part of me is inside his stomach. But yeah, just a fair warning for anyone who wants to gift us anything, Don't gift us food.

Like, especially for tan-man. Unless it's real bomb, then I'll still eat it. But, yeah. I mean, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna eat something unless it's like packaged. I'm fine with food as long as it just doesn't appear in front of my hotel room. Because the weirdest, the weirdest thing I would say

is when people know where you're staying in the hotel. And regardless of whether you're a fucking famous YouTuber or not, that's just, that shit's weird. Yeah. Right. I mean, it was the creepiest Uber Eats delivery I'd ever gone, right? I would have eaten that, man. I don't know, man.

I mean, I just ate, like, I'd literally like store bought for everything before. Always room for more, man. Always right. That shit fills you up though, dude. I know. Poutine's fucking delicious. I haven't done anything like that.

I've been lucky enough to like not be... Really? Yeah. I'm surprised you haven't had this stuff. If anyone was that creepy fans, it's you. Come on, guys, step up. Come on, some more story. I'm kidding, no, that.

I mean, sort of, I guess, kind of. Okay, one time in this convention, so typically they don't put you on the first floor. Like, they're not supposed to. Yeah. Like, because obviously that's where all the elevators are. Yeah, everyone's, all the people are there. So, typically,

they don't actually put guests on the first floor. They'll normally have a floor that's specifically for staff and guest that's like separate so that no attendee should be on the same floor as a guest or a staff. That's what they're supposed to do. But sometimes the cons don't do that. So one of them I was on the first floor

and I was kind of annoyed because I was literally about 15 meters from the elevator. Right. So everyone knows where I come from. Great place. Yeah, right next to it. You come from, where do I go?

Exactly. Cuttenay Joe. So it was just like asking someone to see where I was staying. I'm sure most people saw where I were. Luckily no one took advantage to that. But at about like 2 a.m. one night, I'm like basically naked, but I really wanted ice and the ice thing was right next to my room.

And I thought, mission impossible, right? It's 10 seconds in and out, no problem. I'm in my boxes only, right? I'm just gonna fucking do it. Like, I don't care. Sorry, who cares? I'm like building myself up confidence. I could have just put a t-shirt on.

No, I'm building myself up. I open the door and there's just two girls sitting there opposite my door. Right. And I'm like, what the fuck? I've been like fucking SpongeBob's been on like full volume in my room, dude, like what are you? And you're naked. And I'm like basically naked and I'm like,

go to the ice machine and I get it and I go back in and I'm like, as I'm closing my door, I'm like, what are you doing? Like, nothing. I'm like, all right then. Did they know you? I don't know, I didn't ask. I just closed the door.

and they said nothing. I'm like, I'm going back to bed. Meanwhile, they were like huge fans and they're just creaming themselves. Maybe, maybe. I mean, basically watching one of my cosplay videos, so it's not really like a deal. I saw Sea Dog VA's nipples.

He came out watching. Nothing new. Not new. For some reason, he came out of his hotel room butt naked watching SpongeBob. I don't want to ask why he was doing that. I just want ice. And one time I was on like the seventh floor

in like Minneapolis and I went to my room, no one else on this floor. There was just this like seven foot, white dude just sitting in front of my door. Just sitting in front of it, literally blocking it. And I was like, hey, can I get in my room? He's like, oh yeah, sure. Yeah, I've had that plenty of times too.

And I'm like, random people sitting in front of my door. And it's almost always people who don't know who I am. Yeah, because- I'm like, why are you here? Because it's like a, I mean, at conventions, hotel rooms just become a fucking zoo. Yeah. You know what I mean? I was just so confused.

I'm like, okay, like he was literally like, not even like next to it, like in front of my door. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm like, I'm like, can you move? Yeah. I can't wanna get in my room. Like, why did these like attendees think

that like hotel hallways are the same as convention hallways, right? So you can't just sit in the hallway. And I didn't say anything because I was like, I'm gonna hope that when I leave this room in 20 minutes after I've had my shower, that you will not be there. Luckily he wasn't.

Yeah, yeah. But I was like, that was just so weird. So you've never had like the, like the getting a letter slipped under your hotel door and stories like. People were talking you back to your room. Yeah. No, they always like give it to my face.

Oh really. Yeah, I had someone who, That's much nice. I wish I had that. I had someone who's like, this is for you, and it was an envelope. And I thought, that's nice. They've written me like a little card. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I noticed like, it's a little light. It's a little light. Yeah, yeah. And the helper next to me is like, oh, you should open it. And I was like, I was gonna leave it, because people are still coming, and I open it up, and it's a hotel key card. And on the envelope, they've written their room number.

And I was like, damn. Damn, son. And then the handle, the hand- Did you go? No. No. Any street, any dude watching this is like, it's a free invitation. They were like a fairy tale cosplayer, so I was like, no thank you.

I'm kidding. I just thought, this is not the kind of Chris Hansen trap I need to walk into it. I'm like, this is no, no, no, no, no. This is like a James Bond plot, but no thank you. And like the handler next to me was like, damn. I was like, can I have that? I was like, you do you want it? Like, I told them to give it back to the hotel.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, people give like numbers. Yeah, I mean like. But it's just flattering. I'm like, thank you. I'm, yeah. You think I'm worth texting? Yeah.

I'm like, get out of it. Get out of here. I like you. I don't know, it's nice. Yeah, I think like the nice is, the nicest gift I've ever got from, from a fan was, uh, it was also a AX where. A lot of my enemies. No, so someone, someone had,

given me also like a, it was like a handwritten letter, but with the letter was like, it came in a box and in the box was like, a lot of origami cranes that she was like, that she had like folded herself. And I'm like, did you do this all by hand? And she's like, yeah, you know, I was just bored. And I just wanted to give you something that was memorable.

And it was definitely memorable, because it was like, I was like, I mean, you're telling the story of it right now. Yeah, exactly. I still remember to this day, I still have it. I fucking, it was the first time I felt like, maybe I'm doing some good in this world, man. I'm so happy, thank you so much. But yeah, it was like a-

I just talk about anime titties. And I get these beautiful gift. Have you seen like that vine or whatever, where the guy's making a sandwich with crisps. It's like, you made this for me? Oh, yeah. Bro, you made this for me? I love you, bro.

That's how I fell in that exact moment. Do you remember that really like creepy statue I had at my house? Yeah. I loved this. I loved this. A fan had made me the statue. Yeah.

And it was like a proper clay statue. And it was like, you know, I don't think they were like amazing in it. But it was so fucking sweet, but it was so cursed and creepy at the same time. But it was such, so, so I just could imagine the amount of thought they put it into this

that I was like, I fucking loved it so much, so I kept it in my house. So whenever people came to my house, they're like, the fuck is that? What is that? And I'm like, oh, it's a statue of me, like, you, that's you? I'm like, it's not the most flattering,

but a fan gave it to me like, oh, that's nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's fucking, I love it. Yeah, probably because when you said, it's a statue of you was like, did you make that? The thing was as well is that it kind of really beat up because it like went through the mail as well. Yeah.

I had to like, I thought this thing was so cool that they'd done it that I spent like an hour and a half super gluing it all back together. Right, just so I could display it in my house and creep everyone out, I guess by accident. But I thought like, oh, this is so sweet. And I took my parents' house, creeping them out, I guess. Thank you to that one fan who sent me that statue of me

in like an L pose. Yeah, we appreciate that shit so much, honestly. Yeah. We don't do anything that amazing to be able to get gifts like that. Like, being given anything, it just feels really weird that you would want to give something to us anyway. Yeah, exactly.

And not weird in a bad way, just weird for us because we were just like, we don't know anything special, we just fucking talk about, fucking make videos, talk about anime titties and whatever. It's very humbling, because I, again, I feel like I make the videos

just for myself and, you know, to pay the bills. That's kind of like the main reasons, you know, what that, like, I make the videos first and foremost for me. And then it's just like, I constantly forget how much people enjoy them. And it's really just like, oh shit,

it's these mean things to people. I don't know. Not that my videos are like worth meaning anything. I don't think that. I'm not conceded at all to think that, but when people are like, oh, you know. My videos are deep. Right? Like you made Sony YouTube like,

you know, I'm doing this because it keeps people happy. I'm changing the world. Without me, depression would go up 10%. I'm changing the wall. I'm like, you make a reaction. Yeah, yeah. It's like, you know, I get it of some people.

It's like that routine. Because I've had that where someone's video, even though it's dumb, it's like, you know, help me out. Yeah, yeah, right. So I've come to, I don't know, man. It's hard to explain. It's always, no, it's always humbling because what we see on our side is just a number.

It's so, yeah. Number means nothing. But when we go to a convention and we see a room full of people and it's, it's like putting of like actual people and faces and interactions to those numbers, it's like, unless you've experienced it, you can't really describe it. You know what I mean? It's, it's very humbling and it's very flattering and you don't quite know what the right way to react to it is.

So we just hope that. that we react in a way that one doesn't make you feel bad and two doesn't make us seem like conceited assholes. I just want you, if you know me and you come up to me, to just have like go away from that interaction thinking, damn, I want it was everything I wanted them to be. That's all I want. And it's so hard because sometimes I'm like,

do I say the right thing? Should I squeeze them a little harder with the hug? Should I like shaking their hand longer? Like sometimes like every time after a convention, like I wake up in a cold sweat to be like, man, was I an asshole to that one person? Like I was just trying to get I don't know, I'm gonna cancel, am I getting canceled?

Yeah. And it's also like, you know, because some people, they always like won a little more and it's hard because you like, especially if you're going out for like dinner with your friends, it's like, oh man, I really don't want them to be like, damn, Codontz an asshole,

he wouldn't let me eat with him. And it's like, well, I mean, I, I mean, I, I mean, yeah, for some reason, I don't give a shit about the one hate comment or like the, no, right, right? Oh, you see on a YouTube comment, but the thoughts of this guy trashing me to his friends, just fucking keeps me up at night, man.

Because it's so real, all right? It's so real. I could be totally in the right and being like fuck off, but I can't do it because I'm like, man, this guy respect me so much and I really don't wanna be mean, and I'm trying to explain it so nice,

but he's just not getting it. Because you know there's a little part of you where if the roles will reverse, you'd be like, man, I think I was a fucking asshole. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it. Which by the way, shout out to that guy, I met in Aki Harbara, who I told the story about for being a good sport about it, you know?

It was an awkward interaction, but thank you for being a good sports about it. You know, I saw your comment and everything. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, I mean, Yeah, bottom line, we appreciate every single person that comes up to us. It's just that sometimes every now and then,

there's just that one really weird person. Just like, you know, social- Just be a normal, just to you. Just be you. Understand that social norms do exist in anime convention. They know that, you know that. You're normal.

Your trash taste here, you wouldn't do it. Just okay, I think the best way to word is, treat us know differently how you would just treat a stranger. Because, you know, it's how I would explain like parosocial relationships, where I've, I've watched people, you know, on YouTube that, you know, you do feel like a connection with, because you feel like you do know them, but you have to understand that that's a one-way

connection. You wouldn't go up to a random stranger and be like, yo, brother, I know everything you've done, you know, I know your entire life story. Let's be friends, you know, there are several steps for both ends when it comes to making friends, whether you know the person or not. And our perspective is, we don't know you, you know what I mean? So as long as you just come in with that perspective. That is the worst. I hate it the most. It's like, can we be friends? It's the worst question.

Because there's like, it's so loaded. It's like, how on earth do you expect like me to answer that? Like, yeah, we're best friends. Here's my, his my, his my fucking phone number. We're gonna on vacation next week, right? Come, join. By the way, what's your name? Well, it's so.

You don't make friends by asking someone, can we be friends. Right, like, I feel like asking that question, you never win is the person asking that question. You're never gonna get what you want. And all you're doing is making the situation awkward for everyone involved. Yeah.

I have to explain to you, be like, So I don't know you, I would like, so you know, I'm happy to talk to you and get to know you a little bit. And I hate that talk to because it makes you sound like an asshole. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it makes me feel like I'm like

putting them below me. Yeah, you don't have the right to be friends. You don't have enough subs to be like. Right, but it's so difficult because there's no way of really explaining that without making it sound like you're in the better position of like, hey, no, no. Well, the way I would think about it is,

I mean, like I said, you wouldn't ask a person and whether they're famous or not, you've just met, hey, can we be French? Like 90% of the time, they're gonna be like, I mean, I don't know you and you don't know me. Who are you? Like, can we get to know each other first? Yeah, yeah, exactly.

And then we can decide, right? But not through asking that question. Now I'm actually just curious, like once conventions do start to open up again, I wonder how many people are gonna come up to us being like, you're Joey from trash taste, right? Our trash taste is supposed to channel. Yeah, as opposed to like the anime man.

I'm genuinely curious. Who knows, man, who knows? Because I'm sure there's like some trash taste viewers who don't watch our like individual channels, right? Or probably don't, never knew us before trash taste, right? So I'm just curious, like, who's gonna be the first person to be like, yo, it's Joey Khan Connor from Trash Taste? I got well.

That's gonna be fucking weird. I just miss all, I just miss, like, all the mispronunciations of my username. I've like got a fucking list of all the mispronunciations of like everyone who's tried to pronounce Gigug. Dude, I get that too, and I'm like, I remember I had one guy in an anime expo being like, yo, are you Josh the anime man?

I'm like, what? It's not even close. Wasn't that one guy who like, who like, Oh, in Singapore, right? He's like, are you giga? Meanwhile, God is standing right next to me. Right next to you. I'm like, no, that's geek actually.

Oh my fucking favorite. How do you do that? I don't know. Like, oh, yeah. Either way, we fucking miss conventions. I'm sure if you're a convention goer, you probably miss convention. We'll go to any convention, just invite us, please.

Just invite us, yeah. Honestly. I'm sure we have some other stories that we've forgotten or something that we can tell. Yeah, there's be more in future, we'll just tell them. Also, if you want us to go to a convention to you, when they eventually open up, the best way to do it is to like email the convention yourself and tell them you want to see us.

That is by far the best way to get us going. Because the owners don't know who you want, so you have to actually tell them. Don't tell us, we can't do shit. Just say. Yeah, don't, like, we get so many, like, emails and tweets, what I'll be like, hey, can you come to this convention?

Like, we, we don't make that decision. We don't make that decision. We get the invites from a convention, so if there's enough interest for your local convention, that's like, hey, can you go to this random person's wedding? It's like, I didn't get the invite, dude, I can't go. It's like, bro, you're playing at this concert, right? It's like, you're playing this gig.

Yeah, yeah. Can you go to the gig? It's like, no, I can't, no. Yeah, so let your like, you know, local convention or whatever know, no. who you want. I want to go anywhere in the world. Yeah, honestly.

Like conventions, I fucking love conventions because he gives me a excuse to go travel. And whatever conventions wants to host the first in-person trash taste. Let's do it. Ooh, that's good. That would be some spicy shit. That would be some spicy shit.

That would be fucking awesome. In the meantime, though, look at these lovely patrons who support the show. Damn, I love those patrons, man. Yeah, I love them. These guys are very normal at conventions. Yeah. I bet they won't stalk me.

Yeah, they won't gulp me. That's all right. But if you like to be in part of that group, then make sure to go over to patreon.com slash trashdates, best place to support the show directly. Also, follow us on Twitter and Reddit, some Reddit. Yeah, lots of memes there, lots of greatness there.

We love it. All right, but yeah, guys. That's it boys. Hopefully you enjoyed this episode and we'll see you guys in the next one. Bye. Bye.