Trash Taste Podcast - Anime Peaked in the 2000s | Trash Taste #304

Episode Date: April 17, 2026

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Hello and welcome to another episode of Trash Taste. I'm your host for today, Gantz, joining me once again, are the boys. And today we are going to be asking which decade is superior? Why do you sound like- I don't know. You sound like me when I'm patting out my word cap. If you guys this, I just, I'm trying to bring the-

I just, I'm trying to bring the- I'm trying to bring the energy in. We got a two-hour podcast to go through. Like every week, baby. You're excited. I'm pumped. I'm excited to just tell you about what I like. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, we get to talk about what we like. So we had an episode, I think, I can't remember when it aired. It was last year. It definitely was last year. Yeah. Yeah. Where we basically compared old versus new. And I don't think we able to do it as much just.

as we wanted to. I think it was 2005 versus 2025, right? Yeah, something like that. Yeah. And I wanted to actually, you know, have some kind of like an actual definitive list of what are the actual most popular, maybe most top-rated stuff of each decade. Sure. Because I think a popular conversation is, you know, which decade is the best for X thing or

X media. A retrospective comparison, if you will. Yes, yes. Have you seen that recent meme where it's like, you know, it's everyone reminiscing over 2016? Yeah, I did a post about it. You did a post about it? I did a post about my Instagram. It's where you post a picture of yourself 2016.

Yeah. Or just post pictures of what you were doing in 2016. Yeah. I knew it was a long time ago because the first picture I saw was with me at the top of Shibia sky dabbing. Well, it's because the meme in 2016 was that this was like the worst year of all time. Yeah. And so people are looking back. We said that back then?

We said that back then. Yeah, we said that back then. Man, we are so darn. That is the exact point of the meme where it's just like... We really thought it couldn't get worse than dabbing. Yeah. We thought dabbing was like the worst.

We dabbed then. Harambe died that year. That was pretty bad. That was pretty bad. To be fair, that was the year when everything started to change. Yeah, it was. Yeah.

His death was a turning point in global events. That was a canon event right there. It was. That was archa. Yeah. That would be like the third spy. of us movie. It's like, dude, don't save Harambeyskride of it. It's a can't

of it. Can't believe it's already been 10 years since he's gone. Yeah. But, um, yeah, so what we have is we have a bunch of top 10 lists from different pieces of media, anime, gaming, movies, whatever. And we are going to compare, you know, not just a random assortment, but the heavy weights of each and every decade to see which decade is actually superior. The decade, the decade, the decade defying works. Yeah, the decade defining works. You're doing movies, games, but we'll start with anime. Yeah, of course, because we're an anime podcast.

Are we? Yes, that's what, look, that's what the marketing says, you know, that's... That's all we tell our sponsors. That's what Spotify thinks. So that's what's important for us. So the people who are wondering, you know, because a lot of the times when you get these lists, where have they come from? Yes.

Specifically with the anime one, we decided to go with the R slash anime's favorites. Oh, yeah, it's the most trusted. source on the internet. R slash anime. So Reddit users' favorite anime. I mean, they have the highest, the highest and most finest taste in media. Yes.

Because they are the most, you know, eloquent. Yes. Sure. So I think it's, actually, I do think it's a good, a much more helpful list than a person, like an IGN list, which is like one guy who had to submit an article. Yes. And meet his criteria.

So I think it's actually a solid pool to pick from. Yes. So these are the most voted and the top rated shows of the 1990s and movies. Yep. And in the 90s, 90s kids, we have at number one, neon genesis Evangelion, cowboy bebop, Princess Mononoque, perfect blue, ghost in the shell, serial experiments lane, Yu-U-Harkasho, Revolutionary Girl Utana, Trigun, and Bersk. I mean, nothing but bangers, can I just say that? I mean, this is unfair. He's biased. What do you mean? Look at your fucking shirt.

Oh, where are the ghosts of the show? Joey is wearing a ghost in the shell shirt right now. Yeah. I knew I had to pull up and represent. Yeah. I mean, pretty strong list. I will say that it is a lot of sci-fi. I forgot how much sci-fi represented in the 90s. I mean, it was such a good time for sci-fi in general, in all media,

because technology was changing so fast. Internet was just kind of opening our world. I would argue technology is still changing pretty fast. No, I don't think so. No, but it was exciting for a lot of people, because it was like the first step towards like, oh, things are gonna be digital now. We won't be able to tell the difference

between the digital and the real. I also feel like the leaps we're making nowadays are way less. Am I crazy? I don't think AI has changed my life more than the swap tour from a Game Boy to Nintendo D-Sters. That was way more impactful on my life. It's like two screens?

No, no, I think the big difference is that before technology, changing technology felt like it was a change that would make the quality of life better. And now it seems like from like, it just, it has just felt like from 2020 onwards. Obviously, AI is the big boom right now, but it's like every year there is something

that is going to revolutionize everything and it lasts for a year. First, it was like crypto. And then it was like NFT and now it's AI. And to be fair, I do think AI has the potential to enact some of the biggest change in life, whether that be positive or negative. On my electricity bill.

Fuck me. Yeah. But it does seem like every year, you know, everyone is trying to jump on the new hot, shiny thing in some kind of technology. But that's why I think, like, you have to imagine 1990s. Like, this is just when the internet's kind of getting in full speed. Yeah. You know, instant messengers are becoming popular, I think, around this time. You know, Google isn't out yet.

It's coming soon, though. They don't know it yet. This kind of stuff's around the corner. Is Google not out yet? 1996, I think. 97, right? I think maybe it was in like beta. 98.

98, okay. Yeah, it is out, I guess. Well, I mean, at the end. At the end of, you know, like, and I imagine like the internet as a change was probably the most drastic change. Well, not immediately, obviously, but that decade spanning over it became a much more prevalent thing in everyone's lives. Yeah.

So I imagine there was a lot more, okay, like sci-fi influence, inspiration, because we're all starting to use these gears. And everything, this is back. And I love this. We have lost this art. You remember when every computer had to be green, like green text on the screen? The Matrix text.

And it's just such a cool vibe. Yeah. And now we don't do that. Yeah. Computers just look so fucking sick. And ghosts in the shell, every computer looks fucking sick. It's all fucking green text.

And it's like, like the Matrix kind of typography kind of thing. Yeah. That kind of vibe's so good. For sure. And now it's, now it's just fucking. I will say right off the bat,

looking at this list, Is there any that you don't agree should be in the top ten? Regardless of where they are placed, like, is there one where you look at and you're like, eh, I wouldn't put this in my top ten. Berserk feels kind of out of place.

I was going to say that. Berserked that Dragon Ball is not up here. Isn't Dragon Ball's 90s? Oh, Z was the 90s. Okay, so the rest of the list outside of the top tens, so you see what could have made. Sailor Moon, caught up, satura,

great teacher, Onizu, at One Piece, Pokemon, initial D, Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Hunter, Hunter. I mean, Poca Roso, did you want... Yeah, I mean, like, I feel like a lot of these a bit more deserving... Like, Berserk is, obviously, one of the greatest manga of all time.

Yes. Famously, the adaptations never really kind of reach the heights. Yeah, that's what I was saying. It's a great adaptation, though. I do like it a lot. Yeah, I would say this is probably the closest thing to a good adaptation that Berserk has gotten. I mean, there's some... adapts on fantastic moments.

The soundtrack is goddamn orgasmic. Yeah. See, but that's the thing. I don't know if Berserk being number 10 on this list. Read is anime Opie of all time as well. Yes, that is true.

That is true. So put your grasses on. Nothing will be wrong, obviously. But that's what I'm saying. Like, I have a feeling there might be a slight bias towards Berserk being number 10 on this list. Maybe either because the manga is so goaded.

You know, as a story, yes, definitely should be in the top. 10, maybe even in the top five. Or maybe it's also anime fans looking at this retrospectively when compared to say like the 2016, 2017 adaptation and being like, oh, we never knew how good we had it back in the 90s, for example. You know, and I know it feels so lame. But I mean, Pokemon just does deserve a spot. I agree. Or like even Sailor Moon, I feel like of a berserk, which I feel like the, those, those, those, just the cultural impact alone of those two shows. Cock up Sacra even as well, you know. Yeah. For sure. Such massive.

heavyweight shows that have gone on to have such massive legacies. Yeah, I'd say the only kind of thing that is missing from this list right now that I do think defines a lot of 90s anime is actually fantasy anime. You know, like, I mean, Slayers is number 24. And I was thinking about stuff like Slayers, Escaflonae, you know, there's a lot of like, obviously like Isakai has become a meme, but there was a lot of like 90s Isakai before Isakai was kind of like, kind of like a narrow kind of like trend.

Yeah, yeah. Where it was just, you know, your classic 90s fantasy anime where people would get transported to another world. And it felt more like Narnia than it did the modern iteration of what Issa has like turned into. You know, Iniyasha as well had this kind of like element of that as well. Was that 2000s though? That might have been 2000s.

I think, yeah. The manga started in the 90s, I believe. Right, right. Okay. The newest stuff has definitely got a bit of a different flavor to it than traditional. Oh, 2000 on the dot. Just 2000 on dot, yeah.

So just off there. But, yeah, the new stuff, it's almost like, I feel like there is a lot of new stuff that is going back to this kind of old school fantasy anime feel. Last year, I really, really enjoyed Clevertis, which was like a really, really cool dark fantasy. And this season, we have sentenced to be hero, which is just like a by the books. Old school classic dark fantasy. And dark fantasy is coming back, man.

Thank God. Thank God. One, can we talk about initial D? Why does it have so much aura? The show, the show hasn't even done, like, to my knowledge, there's not much initial these stuff out there. What do you mean? Like, anime, like, there's...

Oh. You mean in terms of, like, source material? Right, yeah. Yeah. But my God, this show is just stuck around. There's not much source material out there. I mean, there has the one show, right? I mean, the one show has like three, four seasons.

Right. And there is a new, like, remake of it come out, like, right now. But, like, this show in pop culture, especially in Japan, is like, it's like a permanent mainstay from like four seasons of a driving show, drifting. Yeah, because I think it's because regardless of if you're Japanese or Western, everyone can agree that drifting is just fucking cool. It's the cooler shit. Is you sick that it's had such a massive?

massive, like, legacy, aura, if you will. Yeah. I was like, I was like, what, you're just using the word, or enough. I'm just using aura. I'm just using aura. Initial D has aura.

Initial D has aura. Initial D, the original aura for me, anime. When you go to the arcade, there's like 15 initial D machine, you're like, that's aura. That's aura. You're just using the word.

You don't, you don't even know, you don't even know what I mean. You're just saying aura. It has aura. It doesn't have, it has aura, and I won't be told otherwise. It's just a place hole of word. You can't just say everything has

has aura. Yeah. Color Captain Sacra has aura. Wow. Sailor Moon has aura. Sailor Moon has aura. Yeah, it's not only Zuka in 2000s. It wasn't Oni Zuka 2000s? Am I, am I crazy?

I'm just, it's so weird that only Zika is in 14th. I think it's 99? Did it start 99? Yeah. Damn, okay. Okay, wait, so let's come back to the top text. We've been talking about everything that isn't in the top 10. Sure.

Even Gallian, sure. Yep. Yeah. Cover Rebop. This is the citizen cane of anime. Yeah. Cabo Bop. You have to watch it.

Just like, you might not think it's the greatest thing ever, but just appreciate it for everything. It's done. But just Mononokea, I've never watched it in Somon America in Middle-A. You know what this list is? You know what this list is? This is what we call our unkslop nowadays, right? Yeah, this is Unks Slop. What is Unks Slop?

Have you seen the meme? What is... I made a whole video on this shit. It's such a uncslop. It's literally, it's like that meme of like when you turn 34 and you can't stop talking about unkslott. No, the second one, the second one. Okay, let's have a lot. Evangelion, Diablo two, Tony Hawk, or Stato.

President Evil 4, Final Fantasy 7, kicked a part. That's so fucking funny. And it's just like, oh yeah, it's, we're just, we're just putting the word slop on anything now. Yeah. You literally just, I'm like literally none of this is slop. It's like nothing. What is neff slop? What is neff slop?

Yeah, nephew slop? Yeah, nephew. What the fuck? Let's see nef slop. I'm curious. Yeah, well, let's see the neff slop. Don to Don to Don. Of course.

Rhee ran. Ghost in Tsushima. J.J.K. and Tangle Tide, Eldon Ring. Our train is. Edge runners. Elton ring is nephew slop. Yeah, that makes sense.

I've never heard of neff Slop. That's awesome. Oh, my God. That's. Okay, this is on Slop. Sure. All right, let's go back. Yeah, let's go back.

I mean, Prince Abolok, it's always a show of one of that actually watched, though. Oh, it is easily the best Jilly film ever made. Like, no question. I will, I mean, fuck, Reddit agrees with me. Well, what do you think,

when it comes to, when it comes to Ghibli, what do you think is better than Prince of my eyes? I really liked Howells. Hals is one of my favorites. Naska? Technically not Jibli. Okay, okay, okay.

Okay. Oh, but actually, it's just Miyazaki. Oh, my, Okay, okay. But it was, it was kind of like the founding of... Nausica. Yeah, Nousica is amazing. I agree. Castle in the sky also amazing. How was moving castle also amazing. Yeah, I bought the Joe Hissashi vinyl, the yellow one. And that single-handily is like

kind of convinced me. Oh, dude. Because this vinyl is so good. Yeah. It just plays bangers from this, these are movies. The Prince's Monarche soundtrack is orgasmic. It is someone Joe Hissi's best works. And I feel like, again, I appreciate Princess Mononoke above a lot of the other aforementioned Ghibli films because I feel like Princess Mononoke is probably handles its subject matter in the most mature way. Like, yeah, you know, Nalsica and like, Karsan on the Sky and like even how, like, you know, they do present their themes in very mature ways where like even adults can

enjoy it, even though, you know, for the most part, a lot of Ghibli is catered more towards, I guess, a younger audience, especially as of recently. But I think, I think that's, I think Princess Mononoika is one of the few jibli films where I think I liked it more watching it as an adult than I did as a kid. Yeah. Which I can't really say the same with a lot of other jubilee films. Maybe other than like Nalsika. Yeah, Princess Mononoke, like the older you get, I feel the more you appreciate how fucking good. Like, just the execution of its themes are.

Because like, you know, you also have to understand like, when I watch this as a kid, because they're speaking in like 12th century Japanese. a lot of the time. Half the time I'm like, I don't know what the fuck they're talking about. I don't know this whole thing of like, you know, oh yeah, you have to save yourself in order to save others. Like, I'm like, bro, I'm six. I'm just trying to watch some anime. Yeah. And I don't fully appreciate. I could still appreciate, you know, the amazing animation, like, music and everything back when I was a kid. But as an adult now, now that I know the, I guess, the intricacies of how it presented itself in a more mature sense. Yeah, I think Prince Mononoke is like one of the goats.

Yeah. Would I put it above perfect blue, though? I don't think I would. I mean, as... I just only hasn't seen the other one. No, I like Perfect Blue. I mean, I feel like both are masterpieces in films for their own... Like, my personal preference goes more towards Perfect Blue. Yeah.

But I'm not gonna, like, I think Princess Won an Okay is probably the more widely appreciated. And both are fucking great. It's easier to digest, I feel, compared to Perfect Blue. I think it's perfect blue's uncomfortable. I know Princess Mononoke is a lot of gold or lot of gold. Yeah. But Perfect Blues is a weird watch as well. Yeah.

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and 30-day hassle-free returns. That's vessy.com slash trash taste. Back to the episode. And it's definitely one of those movies you have to go into it, really wanting to have to, you know, feel and get your mind fucked. Yeah, totally. Yeah, totally. That's also really fun there. Ghost and the Shell. Uh, sometimes it feels like a lazy pick, because I rewatched it recently. actually. And it is a fucking phenomenal movie. But it's also kind of a kind of a confusing movie as well. But it's very good.

And the aesthetics are like second and on. I'm glad you mentioned it because I was like, Ghost and New Shell is, you know, hugely influential for its time. Has it aged as well as some of the other picks? I'm not sure.

Because, I mean, there are some like Ghost and the Shell franchises that I really, really love. Like Ghost and Shell standalone complex Yeah, I was about to say I would rank standalone complex

on this spot I love standalone complex Yeah, and that's, you know, Ghost and the Shell the original movie

as much as like as much as like influential as it was I feel like it doesn't, you know, I wouldn't go back to rewatch it

as much as some of these other films or some of these other picks from this era just because there is a lot of other stories

that I feel does explore the same like feeling and vibe of ghost in the shell that may be built on the foundation that's uh it laid down when it came out um it's it has a uh rather well not anticlimactic i mean uh the ending is kind of like oh okay one is one of those the movie right yeah the movie yeah but the you know it's kind of like everything that is the 90s which is like it's sexy and it fucking ends weird which to me is like the embodiment of like 90s movies and OBA.

It's like it's horny and I don't know what the fuck I just watched. At least the first time I watched Chris and the shot, I was very confused. And the second time, still confused, but a little bit more like, yeah. But you know what? You think back and you're like, damn, I don't know what, this movie, it's just the aesthetic. It's the vibe of it. It's the vibe now. It's like the, I think a lot about the scene where Major is trying to, in the final scene,

she's trying to rip off the tank. Oh, and she grips off her arms. And I can see, like, that one scene alone always gets me so fucking pumped. I don't know why. It's so cool, sort of visually visceral to see the Majes' arms, and, like, the pipes and the wires, like, rip apart.

The animation of it's just, like, crumbling. It's so cool. Yeah, I don't know. It's so cool. The other scene I always think of when I think of the Ghost and Shell movie is the scene where Major is fighting the invisible guy. In the water?

Oh, yeah. It's one of the coolest fight scenes in 90s anime. Yeah. Just so many iconic moments. But yeah, no, I do agree. Like, it's not exactly a movie I would necessarily want to go back to, compared to, say, Princess Mononokeo or Perfect Blue. But definitely a decade-defying show when it comes to, like, aesthetically speaking.

Because I do feel that in the case with, like, a lot of the themes that goes in the shell about, like, you know, digital or, like, synthetic natures and stuff like that and how that is related to one's identity. I think serial experiments lane does it a little bit more in an interesting way. But I do also understand that kind of like comparing Princess Mononoke at a perfect blue, it is harder to get the average anime fan to like get into SEO compared to Ghost in the Shell. Ghost in the Shell is just more, I feel, appealing on a surface level than SEL. Sometimes as well, you know, the aesthetics alone can carry something. Totally.

Yeah. And be like a genre-defining aesthetic. Yeah. I think a similar kind of vibe is alien with its like biomachinery vibe like Geiger art where like every like all the spaceships are like blood and veins and they're like it's kind of a cosmic horror element yeah and I think like it's the kind of it reminds you the similar thing but more on the cyber side of like the like really retro 90 style computers that obviously we did so fast yeah but at the time I'm sure that's what they're like

every computer is going to be like this yeah so the whole whole. whole world is kind of this really cool 90s. And I think it was, at least an anime was like a really cool. It's the whole like exposed wires and pipes. Yeah, I love it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's why it's so interesting that like you see a lot of a cyberpunk kind of like aesthetic, you know, and it's so tied to just the Japanese aesthetic, you know, because, you know, this like, this kind of like got popular when Japan was like the center of like the future and technology like peek into like the economic boom. And so it's like, it's like, you know, it's like, like, it's, just an aesthetic that has stayed to this day.

Yeah. You know, even if Japan isn't as far in the future as it was back in the 80s and 90s, you know, the kind of aesthetic is still stayed. It's the, it's the unc that lives off his past glory. Yeah, right? It's like, back of my day, I did this shit. Yeah. It's my whole personality now.

I'm happy to see Yu Yu-Hukshuo number seven, I will say. Yeah, yeah. I feel like Yu-U-Hak show. I don't know. It's, it's an old, like, 19. Shonan, but I feel like Yu-Iakshah is more in common with modern shonans than a lot of the shonans in between the 90s and, like, from the 90s to the 2000s and 2010s, because it's a little edgier, it's a little darker, I would say. Yuske as a protagonist was, you know,

a little ruder, a little more out there than your, you know, Goody Tooshoe kind of like shown protagonist. And I feel like it is aged really, really well. And I feel like people could appreciate it more now even because I feel like with like the Dandahs and the Chainsaw man's and the JJKs. It has more in common with them than... Also, one of the best tournament arcs in anime. Yes, as well. 100%. I think it deserves a spot just because every single time I go out drinking, this has to be the most, normally, like every salary man I talk to, they'll always mention the Yu Hakka show. Oh, yeah. It seems to be the one anime that I, 50-year-old men in Japan loved.

That always, every single time. It's like, I'm like, I like Joja and they're like, mid, mid, mid-thesh, you-haku-jo? I mean, dude, it's, I would say Yu-U-Hakshu is probably one of my favorite shonans, just in terms of just like, yeah, again, like, the fact that it kind of starts off very much, like, more rooted in, I guess, the real world of, you know, just Yuske as a ghost dealing and helping with, you know, everyday people's, like, struggles and lives. Like, that's how the first couple of volumes starts. And then, Togashi is finally, like, let's actually put a story into this and turns it

into this most fucking cool aesthetically and just vibe-wise, sci-fi, supernatural. Yeah, I'll do it. I only watch the first like five episodes. Oh, it's so good. It's so fucking good. And I guess we wouldn't spend too much, like, more time with this, but I do wanna mention like Trigon and Cowboy Bebop specifically.

It's like, damn, what happened to like the spaghetti space westerns? You know, why, what, why did anime go through like this brief phase that just like, Like, all right, we're going to make a spaghetti, uh, spaghetti Western, but we're going to set it in space. And I mean, fuck, they nailed it. Yeah, they nailed it. And they stopped doing it. You know? Because they were like, we've already achieved peak.

We had a space dandy, but that's, I guess, more. Yeah, I mean, we have. It was okay. Yeah. I mean, when did Outlaw Star come out? Because Outlaw Star was like, Outlaw Star was also the 90s, I believe. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. God, Outlaw Star was so good as well. God. That was so fucking sick. And yeah, we've kind of, because even with the Trygun remake, it is more akin to a sci-fi than it is a spaghetti Western, in my opinion. So it's just, we have just lost this vibe.

And I would love for a modern anime to kind of like come back with. Bring back a spaghetti Western, man. I want to see like a, even not even a spaghetti Western. I want to see like a Clint Eastwood akin type of like anime. Yeah. You know, like just the classic Western stories. Because I feel like, I feel like Western stories, like traditional like Clint Eastwood style Western. stories kind of just get like tossed aside by a lot of like modern media consumers just because

it's like, I don't know, maybe it's the same subject being told over and over again or it's like an old formula that's been overdone in the decades. But like, I don't know, man, when you watch like a good fucking Western, shit hits hard. I mean, I feel like the whole success of Red Dead, for instance, is like a perfect example of like, Westerns can still be thoroughly enjoyed by a larger crowd. It's just how you present that story, right? Yeah. It's a tough genre, I think. It's a tough, there's a lot of different, because it's a period based on like a real time, right?

So I think the stories are harder. I think this is also why samurai stories are hard to tell. Because you have to root it in some kind of either complete fantasy or some familiarity and some time period. And I think that can sometimes make it hard where fantasy has this beautiful thing where you can just do literally wherever the fuck you want. Same with sci-fi, right?

There is no historical, context there that might weigh it down or sensitivities that you deal with as a greatest. So I think that's why samurai stories can be a little tough, even from like, you know, we've seen a lot of samurai anime. Not all of them are great. I think more often than not we get mid ones. It's rare we get absolute bangers. Yeah, but can you imagine like a samurai Champlu styled story, but it's a Western? Don't tell me that won't go home. If it's done right. That would be cool. I don't even know if it exists. It might already exist. It might already exist. Isn't that just cowboy bebop?

Yeah. Yeah, but like minus the space. Okay, okay, okay. Like, samurai champ was, right? Okay, so that's the 90s. I would say a very, very solid list. Yeah, very solid list. I would say one thing that stands out before we move on

is that it definitely has an identity. It's such a strong identity of like the aesthetic and the vibe of the types of shows that were... It's also a lot of firsts as well, right? Yeah. Like, because or like, I guess the, genre-defining shows, like, you know, goes in the show, you, Huck show, even Utena.

Like, a lot of those shows went on to influence so many shows in the 2000s, which I'm sure we'll see a bunch of... Which, now let's move on to the 2000s. Okay. This is a looking more familiar. It's so funny because, like, man, the tonal change like immediately. Let me tell you that, let me walk you through the list.

Wow, okay. So the 2000s, the top voted anime by Arsler, Reddit is R slash Reddit R slash Reddit R slash anime is full metal Alchemist Brotherhood

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Number three is Deathnote Number four is Guren Lagan Five is Klanad Six is back and Monogatry

Seven is Harry Susamia Eight is Monster Nine is Kion and 10 is Torah Dora Now

shit Did I make this list I will say The immediate like vibe shift Oh yeah

It went from zero anime that included school to like five that are about school. Can we just, can we just like, we appreciate that? Yeah, that is a lot of school-based shows. To go, to go further down, number 11, Naroto, number 12, spirited away, 13, fully coolly, 14, spicing bull, 15, Bacanow, 16, gintama, 17, Samurai Champleu, 18, Wushishi, 19, Higarashi, 20, the original full metal alchemists, then welcome to the NHK, then ARIA, then goes to this old standalone complex. And finally finishing off with Oren High School

Host Club. And I would say this is a pretty, as someone who got into anime in this decade and this generation, I would say this is a pretty accurate list of what defined anime, the anime fandom of that decade.

Yeah, because you got everything, right? Because you've got the classic shonans, like formal archimous brotherhood. You got the incredible storytelling of shows like Code Gies and Death Note. You have the huge rise of like the romantic genre with like clan ad you've got the moly blob movement with kion. You've got the light novel movement with harry and torridora. Like it's got everything that

that anime in the 2000s was known for. Yeah. It's interesting looking back now how many kind of genres that we have to deal with today kind of really kicked off in this period. This is the real unc slop man. This is. I love it, bro. You know? This is this is unc slop. This is unc. This is Maybe it's weird because this is when I kind of, you know, this is a lot of anime that I initially started watching when I, when I got into anime. Yeah. But I don't look back very fondly on a lot of things. No, like my immediate, my immediate kind of like reaction with this list compared to the 90s list was the 90s list has such a powerful identity as deisthetic. Orre.

No. Or is not aura. It's like so many kind of like genre defining and, They're like, decade-defining shows. And then this one, I'm just like, I just feel like it's like, oh, here's just like a collection of all my, all baby's favorite stuff, you know? Yeah, there is a sense without the 2000s list is kind of playing catch-up with the 90s list in a sense. I don't know.

I feel like it's a tonal shift, right? I mean, when you look at the violence, the themes of the 1990s, and then you go to this and half of these are like, friendship. I feel like the 90s is already like, look at this. It just feels cooler. Yeah. Yeah, because it's like smokes. He smokes.

Actually, a lot of, a lot of characters in most of these shows smoke. Okay, imagine if like, you know, every time Light would write a name in the book, he just goes, fuck. Cracks out of Elmore, right? I didn't want to do that re-hook, man. Fuck, I don't feel good about it, man. I don't want to kill that guy. It's the, because I feel like with the 2000s, it's always going to have a challenge because aesthetically as well, this was when anime was going through a shift from kind of like, you know,

analog to digital. And I feel like the 2000s was a decade where they, like, studios hadn't figured out how to use the new technology that they'd been given as effectively than like the 2010s onwards. And I feel like a lot of the aesthetics you're going to see in these shows are more polished in the 2010s as kind of like anime is kind of like figured out, okay, this is how we use digital technology to its fullest, fullest potential. Having said that, I'm just looking at the characters and I just like, we went from like some of like the cool fucking Spike Spiegel like gigacads to now. It's just like, damn, a lot of some. We literally. A lot of teenagers, huh?

We literally went from absolute cinema to television. Are most of these as well on the later half of the 2000s? Most of them are mid,

I would say. Really? Yeah, mid-2000s. Most than what, Joe? Sorry, mid-Tum. Let me not truncate that. I mean,

2000s. Okay, let's have a discussion about for Milakamas Brotherhood. Does it deserve the goat status it had been given for so long?

I mean, look, it's fucking good. Like, I don't think anyone can deny. You could be the most jaded anime fan and you can't say Full Mail Alchem's Brotherhood is a bad anime. Like, it does what it does

very, very well. But looking at this list, I personally would put Code Gies over it. Just in terms of a... What an edge lord. Wouldn't you agree? I don't know. Is that your anime of the decade? What's your anime of the decade?

With the 2000s? Yeah. I need time to think about that. Because I feel like, go back to the top 25. Because I feel like a lot of these can be contenders. Yeah. Obviously. And also there's obviously going to be personal bias and stuff like that too.

Like, for example, like Bacchano's at 15, I would argue I would put Baccarano in the top 10. Yeah, I would put Bacchanan in the top 10 as well. I put back in top 10. Yeah. One of my favorite. Fully, cool, for me personally, I'd put it in the top 10. I mean, there are some culture-defining shows here. Yeah.

That didn't make the top 10. I would like argue, you know, Sammae Champleu in terms of like cultural significance. Totally. It basically, you know, has kickstarted what we see now is like the lo-fi trend, which is- Yeah, because the Nidibis, right? Yeah, yeah. But, you know, I've got the, I've got the two vinals and I've been playing,

oh my God, non-stop. Yeah. They're going to be worn down. They are so good. They're so good. And I guess, like, yeah, it must have, that opening is iconic. And I feel like definitely helped, at least with the internet of the proliferation of lo-fi. Yeah.

It's just the entire vibe just became its own thing outside of the anime. Like there are people who listen to the Samurai Chamblu soundtrack or watch the opening or know the characters without ever having seen the show.

And I think that just goes to show you the staying power that is like the identity of Samurai Chamblu for instance. Yeah. You know. Yeah, shit. It's a bit weird for me

that the original full metal is in this top 25 because I wouldn't put it in the top 25. I can't believe they did the original full metal and then so quickly after the second. Yeah. That blows my mind. Well, it's because they kind of, because they realized that they were like, oh, this isn't exactly like to the manga.

So, you know, obviously, because I, I am not Japanese. When you were growing up, how big of a deal was full metal outcomes when you were a kid? It was big, definitely. Yeah, like the manga was obviously, you know, I had school friends who were reading full metal pretty extensively and, you know, enjoying the anime as well. And it was definitely a big anime in the 2000s. But I feel like much in the same way as shows like Samurai Chambleu or Cowboy Bebop or Fully Cooley, it was definitely more well known in the West. I feel like the identity that it has become now online is mostly due to its popularity in the West,

more so than how it was in Japan, for instance. Because like... It doesn't feel that popular in Japan? Not particularly, no. I mean, it is definitely popular. Like, it's, you know, it's still incredibly at the time, you know, more on the mainstream side of things. As I'm like comparatively to like other shows that seem to have such big staying power.

Yeah. Prolific. Yeah. I feel that's definitely due to the West, you know, kind of adopting full metal Archimist as the gateway anime for a lot of people are. They're Shawshank. Yeah, they're Shawshank, essentially. I mean, the one thing I thought always did very well is that it starts off as like this really

kind of, you know, it's quite dark, right, with the mom dying. but then it quickly you get loads you into a false sense of security you're like oh it's gonna be like a fun little kid anime and then the Camara episode happens you're like oh god and then like people start dying like oh shit okay wait this is like way deeper than I

think it's going to be or how it's gonna yeah and I think it did a great job of kind of almost the arc that you would go through as a non-animay viewer watching anime for the first time where you're like this is cartoons for kids you're like okay yeah yeah it's like that too and then suddenly when you get

into the show, you're like, oh, God, there's some really fucking heavy things going on here. Yeah, funnily enough, actually, now that I'm kind of thinking back to it, like, I feel like in the time that Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood came out, like the anime, at least in the Japanese anime fandom in Japan, I feel

like shows like Harrihy and like even Lucky Star were more prolific and more well-known and more well-established than Full Metal Alchem's Brotherhood, because I think at the time, shows like Harrihy and Lucky Star were definitely were shows that were made specifically for that audience, right?

Like, not very many people outside of the, the Otaku community in Japan were watching shows like Harrihi or Lucky Star at the time, right? But Full Malachma's Brotherhood was, I think, in a lot of Otaku's minds, a great show, yes, but also it was the Shonen formula being done in the new generation or the new decade, if you will. Which is not a bad thing, because obviously, you know, as we can see here, the formula fucking works.

but I definitely think it was more like more renowned and bigger in the West as the gateway anime if you will so but like I'm not complaining about it being at the top yeah it's a good show you know also can can you go back to the list if that's okay can you

okay let's can you can you go up to 90s again all right okay go down I'm like all right be comparing and control Yeah, yeah, yeah. One big thing that has been an addition to some of the genre decade-defining shows. Cute anime girls.

Yeah. Huh? It's... Two-thousands was the start of the Mowyblood movement with shows like Clanad, Kian, Torridora, even Harahue to an extent. Like, it's the, like the wifuification of anime, you know, where before, you know, obviously we had shows like... you know, that started a lot of, you know, I would say popularized some of the character tropes that we see in modern anime. And then you really see some of these characteristics be refined in this decade to be like,

okay, we're going to go completely moly blob. Or we have Torodora, which is someone who is like, you know, someone who is unequivocally sunderede. Yeah. You know, and we also see Harrahi as well and the explosion of light novel adaptations obviously Bakimogatari is up there as well. It's just, it's a lot. Yeah, and I feel the reason why that all these shows became popular in the 2000s was, at least in Japan,

it was the meteoric rise of, you know, sites like Niko Niko that were taking a lot of shows like Harrihi, like Kion, like Torodora, like Bakimodata or Klan Ad, and were like either meming the fuck out of it or were just in constant rotation of discussion on the internet and the online Japanese or Taku community because they were finally like

oh we can actually talk about like cute anime girls now yay and be a safe space because we're anonymous on the internet you know

in a weird way that is what happens as a fan of Bacamo Bacamonagatri Jerry would you recommend it to people nowadays or do you think

it's kind of a tough watch to get into I like it wouldn't be okay if for example someone came up to me and was like, I've never seen anime before. It's like, come, back of montagachry.

Yeah. I wouldn't be like, I wouldn't be like, check out K on Bakimono Gatsuri and Harrii. I wouldn't say that, you know. I would definitely, before anything, recommend like, Brotherhood, Code Guyass, death, note, even Monster, you know? Yep. I love Monster. Yeah.

I wish it was higher. Yeah, I agree. I think Monster should be a lot higher. But like, you know, those would definitely be the easier ones to get into it. And then if they fuck with that, then I would say, start to recommend, you know, maybe the harrisies. You gotta pass the check. Yeah, you gotta pass the normie check, you know?

Yeah. You gotta pass the, do you even fuck with this animation at all? Like, at the base level. Like, let's build the foundation first before I start to, you know, take you up to the upper floor. Here's the thing. How many of these shows that are currently on the list right now would you think you could recommend to the modern anime fan over them watching stuff that is coming out right now? Over them watching it? Yes.

Because that means it needs to be good enough for them. to ignore what's current to be like, okay, I have to go back to experience this. I mean, top four, I would say, for Malagma's Brotherhood, Kogias, Death, Notting, and Grinidad. I mean, I think the issue is that stuff like Backmonagatry and Toradora, even to an extent, is that these shows that focus less on classic Shonen or thriller aspects are a lot harder to recommend to people who are kind of getting into it because they, you know, I think that we're spoiled with the pacing and the, the, the,

the level of action and hype that we get in these newer shows. I can't convince the average JJK fan or, you know, Dragon Ball Z fan to go and watch Clan Ad and Bakimul Nogatari. But I could probably convince them to watch code Giesa full metal. Yeah, I feel like the problem with a lot of these shows, and it hurts me to say this because these are the shows that got me into anime, is that I look at this list now, and for like, I think about half of this list, I'm like, eh, there's like, I think there were like modern iterative.

of shows that hit that same emotional beat that the show was going for, but they've kind of like had time to refine it. Like, let's say Harry Seussimir, for example, the more time goes on, the more I'm like, I don't know how well this is age compared to some modern anime. Because I think I watched like a few episodes of like Harrihi, like last year. And I'm like, damn, was she always this insufferable sometimes? I was gonna say, she was. I was like, gun on my head. If you were like, Connor, you have to watch Klanad and Harry Susan here right now, I'd be like, pull the trigger.

Like, Harry is a rough watch when you're not 15. It's tough. Because it's only like slightly charming if you're young. Like it's like, now we're like, bitch, shut the fuck. And Klanat as well, like, dude, I think we, if you haven't watched Klanad or if you only watched Klanad like 10 years ago, you forget how fucking annoying some of those characters are in that show. Yeah, especially just like Klanad. Like Klanad after story, it definitely works well with all the build-ups and everything. Which is crazy because we'd be like, yeah, watch a whole

fucking season of an anime to get to one good season of another anime when I could just watch a good season of another anime. Yeah, I could, I think the only reason why Klanad is so well, you know, placed on this list is because of the power of after story. Like if after story, didn't exist. Klanad would not even be in the top 25. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, I think that's the thing, right? It's like, I think with a lot of these other shows like Harrihi or like Kion or like Toradora or even Backemonogata, I think it was the novelty of the fact that not, there was not really a show that was like this when this came out. And because it was such a new thing for anime fans everywhere, that's what got them intrigued and got

them into it. But now, as Gar said, yeah, with given enough time, like, given 20 years, in some cases to build off of these, like, more primitive ideas that these shows were exploring, yeah, it is a little harder to, like, go back to it. Yeah. I think my personal favorite on this list of this year is probably Monster. Oh, Monster is so much. Yeah, Monster is such a, masterpiece. Yeah. Just for, just for Johan as a villain alone. He has aura. Timeless. Timeless. But, like, such a fun show to watch. And if you're, looking for a, just a really cool show that has you on the edge of your seat, although it takes a little while to get there.

Yeah. Monster is definitely a show that you should watch. If you are an anime fan, you haven't. Yeah. You think personally. Yeah. It's very special. I guess that brings us on to the 2010s.

All right. Let's see. Also from our social anime. Yep. So number one, Steinsgate. Attack on Titan. Okay. That is the most Reddit number one.

Can we agree on that? Yeah. Like, I'm not saying it doesn't deserve it. No, well, I'm just saying... I love Steinsgate. I would not put it at number one, though. But that is what Reddit would put at number one. I know they would.

It's... Yeah, for me, like, top two of the 2010s is, like, attack on Titan and mob psycho. Yeah, okay. Yeah, so number one, Stan's Gate. Yeah. Steinsgate, Attack on Titan, Madoka Magica, Hunter, Hunter, Mob Psycho,

Monagottery series, I guess. Yeah, even though back of Monagetary was like the 2000s. Made an Abyss. Violet Evergarten, March comes in like a lie. Oh, you miss Cargayasama. And Kagia's summer number seven. I'm going to say it already. This is better than 2000s.

Okay. I think already this is like, yeah, a lot of these shows, I would still be like, nah, this shit goes on. Yeah, a lot of these shows I would be inclined to go back to more than the 2000s. Because I, the only shows I haven't watched on this list. Yep. Is I believe Violet Evergarten is the end of what I didn't watch.

Yeah. and it's a show that I haven't heard much about since after the movie. Do you think it deserves it to spot? As somebody who doesn't, I don't really know the anime. Would you say it? Yeah, I'd say as somebody who hasn't watched it, but, you know, for whatever reason, is it was even worth me going back today?

Yes, it is. I think that's my whole point of this list where I look at this list and immediately I'm like, these are still some absolutely fantastic shows that are worth These are way easier to recommend than the 2000 shows. And I would say even like the 90s shows because it's a lot like, it's such unique experience that a lot of the 90 shows are easier to recommend

than the 2000s show. For sure, yeah. I think the 2000s has a real like identity problem where it's just a lot of the stuff it started. Other shows have done better. Yeah, 2000s were like kind of the transitional period for anime where they were trying to jump off the back of like, I guess the cool and edgy factor of 90s anime

while also trying to pertain to a, a larger crowd, but not knowing how. And then the 2010s was where they were like, they locked the fuck in and they were like, all right, I think we figured this shit out now. Exactly. What didn't make the top ten? Yeah, let's see. Let's see. All right. 11th is re-zero, Vinland's saga,

Place Further Than the Universe, Silent Voice, Your Name, Jojo's Full Metal Archim's Brotherhood again. Fade Zero, Kill a Kill, High Q, Ping-Pong the Animation, Hibika, Euphonium, Konasuba, Chihaefu, and Hioka. It feels like a crime that ping pong isn't higher. Yeah, but I kind of get it It's a weird show

It's a weird show But it's so good I'm happy that Hibbke euphonium's up there Hibbke euphonium Definitely deserves a lot more praise In my opinion Ping pong's my favorite anime at all time Yeah, I mean

It's fucking good It's definitely definitely good It's so good I mean yeah Fuck here Fuck me Oh yeah Banger after banger

Banger off the banger A lot less movies Yeah In 2000s we didn't see any movies Yeah, what? I guess the art form kind of the movie art form died But I guess it did feel like at least

When I was When I mean I got into my memory I remember you guys too But like a lot of the movies At least that made it to the West Were more kid focused Yeah You know

As opposed to these older ones Like ghost in the shell We didn't get any of those really I mean I feel like this was This was kind of the decade Where anime movies Started becoming a thing Yeah

internationally, because, but the big trend is not so much like Ghibli films or anime original films. It's now become shown in IP films that are the big money makers. Yeah. You know, and I feel like there's a lot more attention on IP films than now getting like a big director to make a film. Yeah, I feel like the 2010s was definitely more like, I don't want to say indie, but like, you know, independent, independently known directors works, you know, like Horsoda or like Shinkai. Yeah. We're like really coming out of the woodworks with, you know, like your name, for instance.

Uh, which is crazy because like, we were talking about the 2016 trend earlier. I have a picture in 2016 of me standing in front of a poster of your name at the cinemas. And I'm like, holy fuck. That came out 10 years ago. That's scary. Bro, we had your name and a silent voice both in the same year. Oh, back to back.

Oh, bang. So let's go back to the list. So we kind of look at the top 10. Yeah. Steinsgate Yeah Steinsgate is good But it's again

It's one of those shows Where I love it But it's so hard to recommend It's also a show I've never ever ever ever Wanted a rewatch I watched it one time And I was like

That was great I am good I am yeah Look Yeah it's because The first 10 episodes Are so slow Even though the payoff

At the end is amazing But a lot of people I feel Especially today Just do not have the patience To sit through The 10 First 10 episodes

as a Steinsgate. Yeah, I don't know. It's hard. It's hard to recommend. Am I undermining modern anime fans too much by saying that? No, it's just, I don't know. Steinsgate is super weird for me because it's always like one of the most highly rated on like my anime list and R slash anime specifically.

And it's a great show. It's a fucking fantastic show, but it's never been kind of like a personal favorite of mine above some of the other shows on this list, at least. I can't put my finger why. I don't know why. I think Reddit and websites like it, you know, when there is a, how do you say this? Steinske is a very like, it is a story. Okay, he's a guy.

He's a smart guy. And he is going through some turmoil. And I think a lot of people don't get a lot of opportunity to feel those emotions through the characters that feel like, they are similar to them. You know, I think Okabe, you know, is a very relatable person to someone who would might, you know, I'm not saying he's a fucking nerd, but, you know, like, if I spend my time online, I'm going to see a lot more similarities to me with Okabe than I am with fucking Aaron from Attack on Titan.

And seeing him go through grief or through these like really slow burn emotions, it's like the peak I like anime, I have good taste thing, where it's like, it has to be a slow burn, it has to be a tragedy, it has to be. you know, a lot of intense emotions that really take a while to be told. I'm really bad at explaining the mindset. It's like the groundedness of the character, right? That makes it more relatable and therefore makes the message at the end seem deeper. Well, I would say, I mean, it's, you know, it's a story about grief and loss.

And it's saying that we can all experience. And I think it's through a, it's through a gut-wrenching way. Yeah. I mean, I would say, I don't know how to, like, properly put into, like, put this into words, but it's for me it's like the characters where they feel like the best way I can describe this is like the entire cast of Steinsgate feels very anime-y like to a point where I feel like they are well-written characters and they are very interesting characters but they are not a to me they're not like a representation of the type of people you would see in like real life, you know.

Like let's say, uh, Mayuri, for example, there's no fucking girl going like, like, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. And even, like, fucking Okabe, his, like, large than life personality, like, no, but that's the reason why Steinsgate, at least in Japan, was so fucking popular, is because you had these, like, incredibly anime characters like Mayushi, for instance, or, you know, you had these larger than life characters like Okabe, but I think a lot of especially Japanese autarkos looked at Okaban was like, I want to be like that. I mean, this is what I was trying to try to get out, really.

I think Okabey is a very relatable figure of someone who is maybe not cool, but in his own space and what he's able to do, he's able to kind of make a space for himself that feels like he belongs. Which is what a lot of Taku's especially in Japan were trying to do in the 2010s. And still doing it today. anime viewer wouldn't want the girl that just goes do to do, I guess, and you just have the fat friend because that's what you have. Yeah. And also that's a fat friend who just makes memes. Yeah. He just makes memes. Yeah. I mean, that's literally all he does. I can't remember anything. What's his name again? Fuck, I always forget his name. All I know is that like, it's, it's just like, he is the main character, and it is apparent that Okabe is the main character and everyone else is kind of like, uh, hashed a hitter.

I swear he had a nickname. Yeah. He had a nickname. But it's like Okabe, Okabe gets the hot girl too. Can you click on his character? Yeah. What the fuck was his nickname? Dada, Dada. Dada. 998 characters, 98 kilograms, bro.

That's dogs in his health report. I mean, it's like, you know, because he also then gets the beautiful woman too, who's like, you know, ethereal. And it's like, I don't know why. He's always like, even though this is like Japanese anime, he's always given off stoner energy. And I don't know why. Look, he's a proactive otaku who's got a thing for both 2D and 3D girls. Talks quite a lot.

He's like a super bad character. He's like... Bro just like me for real. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I don't. I like Stein's gay. I enjoy Stein's game.

Oh, he's a Nietzhan user. That's right. Yeah, of course. That's where the memes come from. Yeah. Yeah. That's why Nietzschean loves daughter. Yeah, it's, uh, I sunk it is a sexual harassment.

You know what I mean? Like, I think it is a show that, that really does when you are a, you know, what's why I watched it back in the day. When I had like my fucking Reddit online era, I felt like, damn, bitch, that's me. I want, I want the hot redhead and the, I guess I want a weird friend that says, do, do, do. I don't know.

Yeah. I just, I don't know. It's, uh, I don't think it deserves number one is what we're trying to get at. Yeah. Yeah. Look, it's great. I love it, but it doesn't deserve number one. It's not my personal favorite. I think it's a little over conflated.

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Strong aesthetics. Yes. You know, instantly recognizable. an extremely popular twist that was like peak ony 10's humor oh you should watch modoka magica definitely watch episode it's a really cute magical girl show just kidding guys it felt like peak for that kind of time that humor where we'd be like scary maze uh yeah yeah yeah and i i feel like

now it's just like the the reason i'm like questioning number three is because like the whole like cutie aesthetic versus very dark depressing story i'm like It's kind of a cliche now, I think, if anything. I mean, also, I feel like with the whole deconstruction of magical girls thing, like, you know, earlier in the list than the 90s list, we saw Revolutionary Girl Utena. I think Uttina did it in a much more interesting way

than Madoka did. This was the decade where we could not stop using the fucking word deconstruction. I know. Hunter Hunter is a deconstruction of Shonen. Mob Psycho is a deconstruction of Harrow. Speaking of which, those two, I would definitely put above Magrata.

Hunter and Mob Psycho. Yeah, I agree. I would put Monogah. above Maddo Gamike as well. I also do feel it's kind of unfair to put the entirety of the Monogatari series, like, because there are multiple seasons here. I watched so many of them, and man, I tried so hard to like that anime. I felt like a Reddit user. I was really trying to my artist.

Yeah, I really tried to like it. I watched like four seasons of it. Monegatory? Yeah, and at the end of it, I was like, damn, I still don't get it. I still don't know what the fuck I'm watching. Uh, yeah. Uh, yeah, I don't blame you. And I feel like there is sometimes, like, and I know, yes, I was a dumb kid and I might not have gotten a lot of things because I'm dumb as well.

But sometimes there are shows that I feel like people rate higher because they're like, no, I get it. No, I get it. That's why it's in my top five. Because I get it and you don't. Yeah. No, that's valid. That's not. Do you feel?

Yeah, totally. I mean, I can, I know you actually get it because you, you care so deeply about this. But there are some people who have put it in the top five and I'm like, really. Really. Explain yourself. You really think that. I would love to hear more about the monotauri series from you. I just, okay, another aspect for example as to why I think the monotauri series does deserve the praise that it gets is because at least when it came to the anime adaptation of it, which is what's on this list here.

Shaft and Shimbo Arioki just did such an... cool job of making it visually also incredibly unique. Like, you know, Shimba Ariaki was doing a bunch of stuff with Shaf before Monogatari, you know, in the same aesthetic. But something about the dialogue and the characters and the weird, the weird vibe that Monogatari is just worked so perfectly with this incredibly weird and jarring visual aesthetic that it made what is essentially a series that is 95%. dialogue-based into something that was visually incredibly appealing as well, which is very hard to do.

Yeah, I think the attention to detail on the shots and the colors. Absolutely. And the composition of every, like, frame in the show is so beautiful. Yeah. And I think, weirdly, it does like horror anime better than horror in the sense that, like, with the way they portray how uncomfortable some of these talking scenes are. Yeah. It's like so good.

And I think horror anime would have benefited a lot from a similar kind of advice. Monogatari does tension incredibly well. Even in a scene where it shouldn't be tense or scary. And yet it still somehow gives you that vibe of like, oh, something's about to happen and then nothing happens for the most part. And I would do the greatest anime opening of all time. Oh, I mean, so many. Well, that's 20,000, 20,000.

20,000? 20,000. We also had unravel come out this decade as well. Yeah, we did. Yeah. Actually, that might be the most iconic. Yeah. We had some pretty iconic openings coming out.

Yeah. would say like in terms of monogatry, there are a lot of series that have the same vibe as monogatry, but I still feel like monogatry has the strongest identity in whatever the fuck that genre is. Like I look at other things like bunny girl's empire. It's not even deconstruction because monogatry started at all. And I feel like everything that's come after monogatry has been more approachable. Yeah. Like it's given the same energy, but it's been a little bit more approachable, less weird, less out there.

But monogatry stands as still like the most kind of like recognizable in my eyes. Totally. This is very monogatry-esque as opposed to this being very buddy girl sempaiesque or, you know, other other series like that. Totally. Yeah, this is a bang-a-bagger fucking decade.

Yeah. All of these are amazing. Yeah. I mean, Hunter and Mop Psycho, maybe in my top five, ten. Yeah. Made in the Biss as well It's fucking amazing March comes in, like,

I'm so glad March comes in like Alain's in this top 10. The real question is, do you think the 2020s can eclipse eclipse this? We are halfway through. Actually, we're over halfway through now.

And what are the decade defining show so far? Well, we have obviously the big JJKs, demon slayers. I know Vinland songs in the 2010s, but it feels more on the 25s. I don't know.

Yeah, because Vinansaga season two is what's really kind of like blew up in like, with mainstream culture with the I Have No Enemy's Mead. Would you put free rent? Yeah. I mean, free runs are clearly a decade defining show. Yeah, for sure. Orb was this decade as well. We've had some pretty big chainsaw man as well.

We've had some big shows. Yeah, we've had some amazingly like big shows, amazingly influential shows as well. What year do we put One Piece in? Is it when it ends? They get it? I mean, it was in the 90s list, right? Yeah, it was in the 90s list.

Yeah. But I guess the anime hasn't really been good until recently, apparently. I don't know. Yeah, but that's interesting, isn't it? Is that it was in the top 25 of the 90s list, and yet it wasn't in the top 25 for the 2000s or the 21sts. One piece is his own thing. Yeah, one piece, yeah.

It's kind of like trying to argue, you know, Dragon Ball as well, where Dragonball as an IP is just, I wouldn't say it's like decade defining, it is just anime defining. And One Piece is in that category where it's, uh, it's the medium defining show. Yeah, yeah, it's a medium defining show.

Um, yeah, like the 2020s has been pretty strong so far as well. Uh, highest rated series of the 2020 so far. Bochee the Rock. Bochie the Rock. Oh yeah, fucking apothecary. Diaries. Autopsy.

Tarkopi. Odd taxi. or look back, cyberpunk. Oh, edge runners, yeah. Delicious and Dungeons. We have had a phenomenal five years. Yeah, we have.

It's been really good. I feel like the 22, like, I always say that like anime is as good as that. Oshinoco's rated higher than JJK. Oceanok is an 8.5? Are people rotted? What the fuck? Do they think?

Are they dumb? I also find a funny that JJK is the same rating as Chico. That's valid. Yeah, that's valid. He got us funny. Ranking of kings. Dund, spy family.

Yeah. I would say... Pluto. Yeah, Pluto. I would say the big trend I'm seeing so far with the 2020s is specifically with Shonen anime where it almost feels like

Shonan anime is... This is the Fujimoto effect. It's just getting weird. Yeah. Everything is getting weird. It is. It is. We gotta make that a meme.

It's the Fujimoto effect. It's the Fujimoto effect. Like, me on my third beer. Like, you look at some of like the mega hits right now and, you know, comparing like Mahir academia to some of the modern Shonans. I'm like, yeah, that's, that's, that's the, that's he's, it's the last good kid, you know, it's last squeaky, clean like fucking good kid. Did you, I, we didn't talk about this. We talked about Chonsormand. Did you see that Rese was like based off like a Korean porn? Oh, yeah. I need to see that. So Rasey, apparently, the design is literally based off of a Korean porn video. It's Russian? Yeah.

He's watching a Russian porn? Bro, he's deep in, in Goon territory. That is freaky Moso. Freaky Moso. Russian porn actress Hazel Rose is where Fujimoto is inspired for Rese's design. That's crazy. Can we bring up the image? Sorry, audio listeners.

I will confirm with the audio and how accurate. accurate. That's, I mean, oh yeah. Oh yeah, there it is. No, there's even the design of like the bum girl as well. Like, what really? Yes. Yes. Well, let me see. That's so funny. Freaky moda. Freaky modos. Oh, man. Resi design. That is so funny. Inspiration. Someone must have been so deep in their porn. Boom. They were, they were probably about to jerk it to some vintage 2015 Russian porn, and then they see Reza.

It's like, Oh! 100% checks out. 2013. Damn. Damn. And this only got out. He only got out for this recently.

There was some guy. I saw they got pissed off for him, right? Yeah. Oh, I think of most of the, sorry, Korean fans got annoyed. something. I was like, why, that's based, dude. As if we needed to know that he was just a pro guna. He is a fucking, he's a level 100 guna. Look, I, I respect it. I respect it. Not even the weirdest Fujimoto. Not even the weirdest Fujimoto thing has come out. Yeah, I know. Which is insane. Let's have a look at the, uh, the overall then. Overall. Overall. Um,

Overall, what do you think? What is the superior decade? In terms of what? I mean, overall. Each decade has its bangers that were defining, but if you have, okay, let me pose it like this. If you had to only watch one decade, top 10, which one would you pick? 2010s. 2010s?

I think I would do 2010s as well, actually. 2010s was a bad decade. I want to say 90s, and I was looking at the last year. And I was like, I like the idea of them more than I actually like. Yeah. And look, if Monster was in the 90s, I might have, I would have done it. But sadly, it was 2004. 90s to me is a nice aesthetic.

2010s is so many stories that just, just to find a person, I guess. Holy shit. So many fucking, so many stories here that are just incredible. It's a nice mish. Yeah, it's also a nice mishmash of genres as well. Yeah. Yeah. Like it's kind of all over the place.

Yeah, I would probably say 20s too. I'll take the aesthetic of the 90s though. Yes. I'll take the aesthetic of the 90s. And I feel bad. I'm like, maybe the zoomers are right with Unkslop if Unkslop is like the 20, the 2000s anime,

because damn, I'm looking at this list. Hey, look, there's some bangers on there. There's some bangers on here, but I just, don't talk about my unkslop like that. I look at it. I look at it. shit like Death Note and Code Gios and I'm just like, damn, this is, uh, hello, we were cooking. Code Gios is amazing, but it has so many flaws. It's hard to, you know, say it's the pinnacle.

All right. Well, that was the best decade of anime in the past few decades, I guess. Hell yeah. Yeah. Interesting to look back on. What's the next medium of decades we're going to go through? Video games? Video games? Yeah. All right. Let's check. video games then. So we're going to start with the IGN's reader's choice with 1.6 million votes. Wow. The IGN, 1.6 million people

on IGN rated these 10 games as the best games of the 90s. They are in order. Super Mario World, Legend of Zelda, Link to the Past, Super Mario Kart, Super Metroid, Donkey Kong Country, Sonic the Edgehog 2, Sonic the Edge 5, Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo,

Super Mario All-Stars, and Chrono Trigger. Damn, there are some absolute bangers here. There are some absolute bangers. However, right off the bat, I will say Super Mario All-Stars, I feel like it shouldn't count because that's just a bunch of the NES games from the 80s packaged into one game. That's like asking the top 10 albums of the year

and then number nine being a compilation of the greatest hits. The 90s really loved the word super. Yeah, this is the Super Nintendo era, right? Also, most of these games were, you know, Nintendo exclusives. Yeah. They had it going, except for obviously the... Sonic the Hedgehog. Let's go down a bit further in this list because it's a lot of like the same IPs.

The Super Mario RPG, Doggown Country 2, Sonic the Hedgehog Street Fighter 2, 2, Champion Edition, Supermary World 2, Star Fox, Mega Man, Mortal Kombat, Final Fantasy 6. Damn, Final Fantasy 6 didn't make it in the top. Yeah, I can't believe Six is not in the top 10. Super Castlevania, a punchout, sorry, super punchout. Secrets of Manorcombat 3, Mega Manx 2, 200,000, 2, Teensurate Manx 2. Yeah, I mean...

I mean, they're all fucking amazing. It is a crime that fundamental 26 wasn't higher. Yeah, I agree. 6 I would definitely put... Contra and B, Jem, F0. In the top 10. Earthbound is so low. Fuck.

My Earthbound. Not a lot of people played Earthbound, though. I know. But I love it. It's so good. Yeah, I don't know. It's a, it's a tough year... Decade.

So, decade, because there are a lot of similar feeling games. Well, also, it was such a competitive era as well. Like, the 90s was when some of the most iconic today IPs were just getting started, if not, you know, um, you know, really like cementing themselves. And, you know, like, Mario, for instance, was, yeah, you know, it started in the 80s, obviously, but the 90s games was where it's, like, it really defined itself. But, yeah, these are just like the goats that went on to be goats as well. Totally. I would say this feels like, I haven't checked the other list, yeah, but this definitely feels like the era of mascots. Oh, yeah.

This is where a lot of, I feel like, the marketing came around, okay, which mascots does your console have? You know, okay, well, we have the Mario and Zelda machine. Then we have obviously Sega with Sonic as well. And it's going to be interesting to see what. What are the decade of finding games for like other ones as well to see if there is also such a strong kind of like focus on which console has which mascots? Yeah. The problem when you ask 1.6 million people is, is that a lot of people aren't going to play some of the really fucking long games like Corona Trigger or 76. It's easy to play Super Mario Kart and be like, yeah, that's the greatest game ever.

Yeah, that is true. Like, if you play the S&S Mario Car, look, I mean, it's okay. It's a rough game to play now. Well, my. It's, it's fucking hard. It's hard. Because you can't see anything. Yeah.

It just, like, it hasn't aged as well as some of the other games on the such like Chrono Trigger Immaculate. Don't kill country even, even though it's hard as shit. It's still a beautiful looking game. Totally. Plays really well. Soundtrack, God tier. Yeah.

I mean, all of these. Ligs of the past as well. Absolutely deserves to be up there. Yeah. arguably like, yeah, the best Zelda. Yeah. I generally agree it's the best, like, you know. Super Metroid as well.

Yeah, Super Metroid. Incredible. So good, they just basically re-released it with a new coat of paint and it's just as good. Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo. I mean, iconic as far. One of the greatest fighting games of all time. Totally. We got the famous, I think that's the Evo moment, right?

No, that's Free Fire 3. 3. I think it's two. Three. I'm crazy. Stupid. Yeah. If I remember quickly.

I mean, there are obviously, you know, some personal favorites of mine I would have liked to have seen high. Like, I think Yoshi's Island deserves to be top ten. Two Sonics on the list is crazy, though. Yeah. Two Sonics being in the top ten. Final Fantasy six. Come on. I was never a Sonic kid, to be fair.

Me neither. No. Yeah. I mean, I played them much, much later on, like, you know, emulator and shit. But, like, I never had a Sega console. So I don't have as much of a nostalgia to Sonic as some people do. But I feel like Mortal Kombat, if anything, should be swapped out for, like, one of these games, for given how iconic it was the era.

Totally. But, I mean, a very 90s list, a very safe list. I am happy to say chronotry made it into the top 10, though. That's, I mean, that's good because, I mean, that obviously wouldn't have been a game that everyone would have picked up or played out as well, right? So the fact that it made it there is also amazing. Yeah. Yeah. Let's go down to the 2000s then.

I'm sure we'll have. Let's check out the 2000s. This is going to be a very drastic change, I imagine. So this is from GameFast. Still Zelda, baby. It's from GameFiles. Still Zelda. Massive tournament-style brawl for.

the game of the decade, but there are some games on here that weren't released in the 2000s. We have a list that was released in 2000. So this is the one that I was like, I didn't really agree. Yeah, because I'm looking at this, right? Majoris Mosque and Ocreen of Time with the 90s. Where's the other list, sorry?

So this is from the 2000. Was it? Yeah. And Final Fantasy 7 wasn't 2000. Yeah. Do we have a list that was actually from the 2000? It was kind of hard to find a large scale one, but they were out of the list

Sure. Okay, let's go see some of the lists of games that actually came out in the 2000s then. There's also like the top sales as well. I would be interesting what the top sales are. Okay. Okay. I mean, naturally, yeah.

We sport. We sports. Well, that's because it came with the console. Also, that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah, go to the other list. The other one that you brought up. Yeah, what's this one?

Okay, this is like, okay, this is, yeah, this is, I'd say this is pretty solid choice. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so this is top 15 and some notable, uh, damn guitar hero. You know what? I feel like it's a fair thing because that, to me, is the 2000. Yeah, that is the 2000s.

The gaming, the peripheral mania where everything had to have a fucking unique peripheral that got it up your house. And it was like, but mom, I'm going to get the cool controller. It's like every game had to have a gimmick because, you know, they just figured it out. And dude. Guitar Hero was one of those games where like, if you go over to like your friend's house and you saw the guitar, you're like, oh, we're playing that.

Dude, remember when rock band came out and it had all the peripherals and you're like, no, no fucking way! Did you actually have any friends that had them all? I had a friend who had a ball, yeah. Not of my friends were rich enough to be able to have all the things. Yeah. I never got to play rock band.

See, it was like my older cousin and that is like the, such a big brother energy. You go, you go to your, you go to your bro's room and they're like, no, you got to you got to you. You got the whole set. So do you want to be guitar or drums today? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, man. It's hard to argue that a guitar hero doesn't deserve a spot. Yeah. I think it's fair. And we just scrolled past it, but we had Caller Duty as well. Modern War, modern warfare. And then Half-Life 2 is up there. Yeah.

I'd say that the 2000s. Left for Dead. Okay, let's read out. Left for Dead at number 15. Rez, not heard of that one We Sports Fire. Call of Duty 4, Modern Warfare Shadow of the Colossus. Fire.

Guitar Hero 2. Fire. Silent Hill 2. Elder Scrolls, Oblivion. Zelda Majores Mask. Bioshock. Metal Gear Solid, two Sons of Liberty. Halo Combat Evolved. Day X.

Okay. The Sims. Yeah. And Grand Theft Auto San Andreas. It's crazy how many things in this list came out right at the start of 2000. Yeah.

Like a lot of these came out in the first half. Yeah. You know, it's so weird because I look at the 2000s and I would say there are so many like IPs that started in this decade that we're still seeing today. You know, obviously stuff like Marion Sonic have been around on gaming forever.

But, you know, some of these IPs are still around today that got popularized in the... Halo's dad, man. It's still around. They killed Halo. It's still around. It's still around. You see, they are remaking Halo 1 again.

Wait, what do you mean? Well, Halo 1's already been remade once. Okay. And they're remaking it again. I'm not kidding. Jesus Christ. The remake of the remake? Yes, they're remaking it

and they're removing things. Oh, my God. There's no multiplayer in the remake. What? It's just campaigned. Isn't that the whole point of what made Halo fun? Yes. That's stupid.

Yes. Why would they do that? Because they don't know what to make, Joey. They don't know what the fuck to do anymore. Why is that, why is one of the questions? Is there LGBTQ in Halo? Felicia was a lesbian. What the fuck?

Who's Googling this? What kind of stupid-ass gamer are you? Google this thing. fucking play it. I mean, 2000s, at least according to this list, was definitely, you know, the moment where like, you know, Japan was still in its, you know,

was developing great games, but this is where the West really locked the fuck in. Well, you know, there was absolutely a stagnation in Japanese, outside of Nintendo, Japanese game industry, and like, especially late 2000s. I think there was a big struggle to find, you know, reliable games that were performing well.

Totally. And it's only recently that I really feel like Japan has really come back to form with just releasing bangers from multiple studios, not just Nintendo. And even Nintendo, you know, during the Wii U era, absolutely was in the gutter. So it was a good five years where Nintendo was off everyone's radar. Core Duty was in full swing. FPSs were crushing it.

RPGs weren't doing so hot. I saw Japan. I feel like there are some games that might not have been represented on the 90s list. When did Golden Eye come out? Yeah, that was 90s. 97, I believe. When did Final Fantasy 7 come out? 97.

No, yes. 97. Yeah, okay. Okay, that's what I thought, because some of the, these weren't on the 90s list, and I'm like, why? These are some decade-defining games. That's a good question, no. Because we basically went. Because gamers don't know ball.

Yeah, we basically went from this list. We basically went from SNES, skipped N-64 and PSW. one and went straight to the PS2 GameCube era. And I would say like there are some big games in the N64. When did Super Mario 64 come out? 98. It's also harder to play as many gigs.

It's like a lot harder to keep up with every good game than it is to watch every good anime, I think. Yeah. I think it's just easier in general to watch the top five anime every year than it is to play the top five games every year. Yeah.

it's, because I'm looking at this list and I'm just, I feel like the 90s list, IGN Readers Award, you just missed off an entire fucking generation of games. Yeah, N-S64 is not there at all. Yeah, N-64, or PS-1, it's not there at all, which I think is unfair. Because I feel like the 2000s, looking at this, which is, I think, a pretty accurate representation. This is when you start seeing the start of like online gaming, you know. What do I think when I think 2000s gaming? Call of Duty fucking lobbies.

Oh, man. Danny G. Danny G from Birmingham, yeah? Daddy fucking, I'll break your fucking legs. I was peak, man. Classic. I was, I mean, that's, again, like the,

the Modern Warfare for, sorry, Call of Duty model warfare is what really kicked into gear the 2010's gaming culture. Like that, that is so pivotal in everything that followed. the next 10 years.

Yeah, totally. And Caller Duty is still writing on that legacy. It's still making a yearly callagogy that sells well. Yeah. Still, I don't know how. I don't know a single person who plays Cod. I'm pretty sure it's all ChatGBTGBT, buying copies to play it.

I don't know anyone who plays it. My sister's fiancé is like a massive Colo Judy. I understand like the Battle Royale one that's really popular. But I don't understand the yearly card that they pump. out. I don't get it. Yeah. Yeah. I feel after modern warfare, it wasn't as much in the zeitgeist as it was back then, right?

Like it still exists. Modern warfare too was like Pete Coff. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Or like literally every one of my friends at school had modern warfare too. Yeah, because that was that and then right after that is when I think it became so mainstream that the following cards were all the double XP, get your monster energy drink from the store, Get your pack of Doritos. Is that around where, like, Ghost came out?

Ghost was the Xbox 1 when that came out. So it was, it was, this one, Cod 5, which was Black Ops, Cod 6, which was Modern Warfare 2. And then it was Black Ops 2. Black Ops 2 was also pretty large, right? Sorry, I'm getting confused. Modern Warfare. Black Ops 2 was huge. Black Ops 3 was, I think, maybe the most popular one.

Right, right. So it was black. Yeah, 2015. Let's have a look at the. Yeah, modern warfare. Yeah, modern warfare two, black ops, modern warfare three, black ops two, then ghosts, then advanced warfare, and then black ops three. Black ops three is really good.

Advanced warfare and ghosts were kind of high, though. I haven't played any of them. No, I don't blame you. Yeah. Yeah. I played a bit of Modern Warfare 2 and 3 when I was in school, because again, every one of my friends had these games. But also, I mean, it's hard to understate how popular Cod Zombies was as well.

World at War when that came out. Cod zombies was such a fucking massive, like, explosion. Yeah. So defining. Yeah, just looking at this 20-20s list, 2010, sorry, 2000 list is fucking, yeah, bangor off the banger. Yeah. Honestly.

Totally. Some, yeah. We sports. I still play that shit every Christmas with my parents. And we get just as sweaty and hyped every year. That shit is in like 720P, but we're like, I don't care. Yeah. What's, uh, what do we, what's the list when we get to the 2010s?

Can we see the 20s? Let's check out the 2010s list. Check out of 2010s now. Okay. So this is from game facts. Uh, community voted game of the decade, 2010 to 2019 bracket, featuring a hundred and twenty eight games that users nominated and voted on in daily polls. So from number one, we have, uh, Breath of the Wild, Wilde of the Wildeer Three,

Smash Bros Ultimate, Ultimate, Elderskroll Skyrim, Dark Souls, I assume one, persona, or maybe the entire series, I don't know, Persona 5. Yeah, Xenoblian Chronicles, Red Dead 2, Mass Effect 2, and Minecraft. Minecraft. Huh, interesting. Damn, Minecraft just about

made the left. Yeah, right? That's kind of crazy. Yeah. Damn, what's crazy is that, okay, Holonite beat Tales of Bazaaria, understandable, but then Hollenite lost to Final Fantasy 15.

That's crazy. Wow, I can't imagine that. That is crazy. 15 was so mid. It was so mid. What is Tells of Bezaria doing on this list to begin with, man? Why was it part of the bracket?

Yeah, Holland had an easy dunk there. Yeah. Damn, Borderlands 2 lost a Horizon Zero Dawn. I'm actually shocked by that. Oh, I liked Horizon Zero Dawn, though. I did, I did, but Borderlands 2 was great. It was like the one good one. Smash Bros. Ultimates.

Blood born lost to Resident Evil 2. Yeah. That's hard to imagine because I feel like, damn, that's the Resident Evil remake of 2, right? Yeah, it must be. I can't imagine what the fuck were they smoking in that year where they felt like Bloodbourne lost to Resident Evil 2? Yeah, that's crazy, right?

That is true. Am I, what a game is smoking? Right? Yeah, it is a bit weird. Right? Yeah. Like, Vosal 2 is a phenomenal game,

but Bloodborn is the game that your one friend won't ever shut up about. You've probably got like five friends that won't shut up about Bloodbore. Also, I'm gonna say Octopath Traveler 1 winning against Undertale.

What's crazy is that Octopath Trevor lost a shovel night. Like, shovel night's a great game. Yeah. But come on. I mean, yeah, but like, I see,

Octopath Travel 1 was just all right. If it was Octopath Traveler 2, understandable. But I think Undertale was a better game than Oxpast Travel 1. Yeah, what do you think?

defines this decade of gaming. Oh, certainly Grandfath Auto 5. Yeah, that's crazy that it's not on this list. Yeah. I mean, look, as much... We are in a Grandfet Auto world right now. Grandfiel O 5 is still one of the most popular games. Minecraft, still, one of the most popular games. Yeah, but a lost to Persona 4, Golden.

Which is insane. That's great. Look, I love P4, but I can't say it's a better game than GT5. There is no metric. Apart from maybe if you're a deep anime fan, GTA 5, you could honestly look me in the eye and tell me persona four Golden deserves it. You just can't. You know what I mean? You just can't in good faith say that to me.

Look, I just feel like whoever's running this list or this tournament arc, there's a bunch of weaves because Orrin the Blind Forest lost to your fire emblem as well. It's basically, it goes down to like anime versus anime. Dude, okay. Like, yeah. Look, like, Persona 4 Golden winning against GTA 5 was already insane enough, but then it lost to Xenobled Chronicles.

Percenta 4 Golden lost to beat Red Dead Red Dead redemption as well. That's crazy. I just don't know about that. Yeah. So, yeah. Even like this division, like Cuphead. What an amazing game.

Cuphead beat XCOM 2. XCOM 2 also a fucking amazing game. One of the only great strategy games in a genre that has been stagnant for a long time. And it did such an amazing job. Yeah. Which decade you're going for then?

Dude. It's hard. I mean, here's the thing, right? So the 90s, we have a bunch of foundational classics that have shaped gaming today. 2010s, we have a bunch of nostalgia, a bunch of weird games. But they are basically pushing it in the direction that the 2010s ultimately solidifies and finds their niche for, will be the Titans, Minecraft. Grandfith Auto, you know, Super Mario Brothers Ultimate, again, you know, persona.

These are like the really big games that finally get into their stride, I feel like. And truly at this point, we are in, like, you know, the apex of nowadays, the popularity of video games and the pop culture, recognizability of each one. Also, also the 2010s has the massive advantage that the other decades don't have, which is like the rise of the indie scene. Like, we had so many fucking, like, just based on the last thing that we saw, like, the brackets and stuff,

even though they lost ultimately in the bracket. Like, just, you know, some of the most fucking genre-defining indie games, you know, like Cuphead, like, you know, I think I saw VVV there as well. Like, you know, it's much smaller, but just interesting ideas for video games that have come out.

I think even in the 2020s, we'll see even more. Yeah, totally. Yeah. Some of the best games I've played have all been indie. Yeah, 100%. Do we have a list for the 2020 so far? Wait.

Is Soma? Did Soma come out in 2019? I think it was 2010. That would be in my top 10. Yeah, that would be my top 10 as well. I still need to work my way through that one. It might be my favorite game in the 2010s. Might be.

Yeah, but I mean, I feel like I look at the list and it's just, if I had to pick a decade out of all of these, it's hard, But I'm like, I feel like the 2000s had so many, like, foundational classics as well. And this was, this was the PS2 era. This was like, this was an era where I feel like AAA, you know, the AAA studios were actually, like, pulling through. And we didn't have to rely on, like, indie games. And I feel like the more that time has gone on, the more that, obviously, video games were more popular, more commercialized. the more that you looked at like these big studios,

and they just weren't delivering the same bangers that they used to. And now that's why the indie game scene is so big. True. And yeah, I, I, the PS2 fucking GameCube era, man, that, to me is like, peak. It might be slightly rose tinder glasses, but also, we had so many good games come out. We had so many good games come out in the 2000s, bro. God. There's just too many good games, I think.

There's just too many good games. I feel like it was the era where game development wasn't so expensive that, you know, we had to wait like fucking half a decade between new game releases. But, I mean, I think that's where Indies have been really pulling their weight and kind of showing, like, look, you can make a game that sells bonkers without needing to have. 500 staff work on it. Yeah, totally. Even Sandfall with, with Eccision 33.

Yeah. Like, you know, that team was quite small. Yeah. And they made arguably... Well, you know, in Silkson. The most accredited game of all time. Yeah. Sorry, um, or accolades.

Yeah. Well, the most awarded. The most awarded game at the Game Awards. Oh, my God, yeah. That was a rough game awards to watch there. And the winner is. Exhibition. Okay.

All right. Again. You sort of feel bad at a certain point. Even if I was winning that many, be like, all right, guys, fucking... Can we mix it off a bit? Can we know? Can we know? That's embarrassing.

Yeah. It looks bad, guys. Come on. Yeah. If you had to pick 2000s, you'd say? I would say 2000s. I think I would say 2000s as well. Just, again, there might be some nostalgia involved in that biases,

but my God. Let's go 90s. So many bangers. Well, 90s as well, dude. Like, I have a lot of... Super Mario 64. I have a... Yeah, some of my favorite games of all time

were from the 90s. And, you know, I live through that shit as a kid and some of the most replay games in my rotation is from the 90s. So, yeah, you can't hate that shit for sure. Yeah. So, yeah. Hard tie, I think, between 90s and 2000s for me.

As good as 2010's gaming has been. It's ironic that's the medium that is obviously based on so much technology that we're like, nah, the old ones are better. Nah. Yeah. That retro era, bro. Yeah.

Has a charm to it. That can't be replicated. Limitations, you're right. Limitations read, you know, creativity. Totally. Totally. I feel like there, I think there is a reason why a lot of the IPs made in these eras are still being sold to us as kind of like nostalgia to be like, hey, guys, there's

there's a new halo coming out. Yeah. Guys. Why do you think we haven't seen any Gatcher games on there? 2010s gone. Do you think we'll see any in the 2020s list? Well, Gatcha games didn't really get big until Genshin, which was 2020s.

Oh, I thought it was 2019. It might have come out in 2019, but... Obviously, it really got its stride. It got its stride thanks to COVID. I wanted Gensh. And Genshin. 2020. No, no.

Yeah. Gensh. Oh, on my birthday. Sick. Damn. Woo! No, because as someone who was aware of the Gatcha space, before Genshin, it was basically just Gatcha game was a lot of just, you know, mobile games.

Yeah, PNG kind of mobile games. And Genshin kind of like changed everything to be like, hey, here's a game that feels more like your traditional AAA game that has Gatcha mechanics on. And obviously it was fucking the money printer that was. And yeah, I mean, yeah, the Gatcha space is very, very different now. to the point where I don't know how much it has defined the era of the 2020s. Yeah, it's almost in its own genre, isn't it? Yeah. In a weird way.

Even though it is so well known and so well, like, you know, all encompassing now that anyone can like pick up a Garchie game and start playing it if they wanted to. It's usually, you know, for multiple reasons not included in the conversations of the goats. even if the player base is so massive and the money it generates is so, you know, extravagant. It always wins the player's choice awards. In the game awards.

It also does both some of the most rabid fan bases, too, for better or worse, you know? It is interesting. Like, they do, you know, they do cultivate fan bases that are pretty aggressive about their game. Yeah. Yeah, tribalism in the gatcha space is massive.

Why is that? Why do you think that happens? You think it's like a sunk cost fanbats? where it's like, I put so much time and money to this. A lot of money's on the way. I got to make sure everyone thinks this is cool. Yeah, I don't, I don't even think it's the, like, because it's easy to look at it and it's easy to be like, oh, a person has put this much money into it. But I think the biggest thing that Gatcha games cost you is time, you know? It's really, really hard to play more than like two Gatcha games.

If you're playing three, I just assume we're unemployed. Like, because the time investment you need to sink into it to do like multiple dailies and keep up with multiple quest lines and all the updates to come out. I'm like, where are you getting the time from, brother? Where are you getting the time from? It's like you wake up and all you play is got your games until you fall asleep. Yeah, it's like you are adding a like a part-time job on top of your full-time job. You know, if you're taking on like three or four.

True. I know how some people do it. Unemployment, eh? Yeah. All right. Last but certainly not least. All I'm ordering our coffees, Joe. Okay. But you do that while I talk about the next topic, which is movies, film, absolute cinema. So we're going to start with the 1990s. This is IMDB's top 250, which ranks films using scores from millions of user votes.

These are the highest rate of movies of the 1990s. And we only have a top 10 to go off you. Yeah. So from number one to 10, Shawshank Redemption, Pulp Fiction, Forest Gump, Fight Club, The Matrix, Goodfellers, Seven, The Silence of the Lamb, saving Ryan's privates, and you're in Westless. Wait, which website was that one on? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

You never was shaving Rirons privates? Shaving Ryan's. Shaving Ryan's privates. Okay. I love that, baby. Hey, Ryan, a little freaky on. I mean, look, nothing but bangers, I will say.

Is there any, okay. in this top 10 you guys haven't seen? No, I've seen all of them. Shindler's List. You've never seen Shindler's List? You've never seen Shindler's List? No, I've never seen Shindler's Lyfts in Japan. Sorry, that's a bad.

I would have, there's a company. There's a company called Shindler, and I'm sorry, I will ever be five when I see it, because it's Shindler's Lyft that I go inside of. There's a brain called Shindler that makes lifts. There's so many Shindler's lifts. What is Shindler's list? What is she... Okay, you've been serious?

You're right? I don't know. Have you ever heard of Schindler's list? No. So, Schindler from, okay, I'm sorry, lock in here, remember. Yeah. Chindler owned a factory.

Okay. That employed a lot of Jewish work history in the war. And basically, a very long movie, you should go watch it. Ralph finds one of his best performances of all time.

Liam Neeson as well. He basically uses his connections as a kind of a business mogul at the time to basically help save a bunch of Jewish people. And he has a list that he's like, we need to go save these guys. Okay.

I am very, giving it extremely bad. I mean, you hit off all the points, I guess. I just know it's Spielberg. It's sad. World War II. The entire films in black and white. Yeah. And that's all I know about it.

Ralph Fines plays the Nazi officer in it. And he is so, so good. It's one of those movies. where it's like, it's so emotionally gut punching that even though it is an incredible film, like an incredibly powerful film, it's, I wouldn't say it's a film I would go and rewatch. Oh, it's actually such a good film. Really? I just can't. Like, I remember, yeah, the first time I watched it, it was like I, it's such an amazing film.

But again, I just get so emotionally drained afterwards that I'm just like, oh, I can't, I can't watch this for a while. And the whole thing is black and white. Yeah. Except for one moment, one moment that has a bit of color. But it's honestly, it's a really. pretty good movie. And it's, it's great because, you know, being a product of the 2020-tens, my association with Liam Neeson is, you have 10 minutes to tell me where my daughter is. I'll be very mad. You know, that was kind of like Liam Neeson was, it was kind of forced into

these roles where, you know, in this one, he does such an amazing job. Yeah. And it's such a good film. So please watch, watch this. Yeah. Anyway, let's go to list. I think, honestly for the movies, it would help us more to look at the totality of all of the decades at once, rather than talking about each individual movie. Okay. We could easily get lost talking about these movies. Yeah. So that's the 90s.

The 2000s. Oh, my God. The top 10 films of... Rightfully so. The 2000s is Lord of the Rings, the Return of the King. Yeah. The Dark Knights. Yeah.

Lord of the Rings, the Fellowship of the Ring. Lord of the Rings, the Two Towers. Spirited away. I was about saying, Lord of the Rings, the Twin Towers for a second. I was like, I could have been. Decade defining towers. It was the two now.

Number five, spirited away. Number six, inception. Number seven, gladiator. Number eight, momento. I just realized, weird. Look at the 2010s. I look at 2010s to 2019. Inceptions, I guess because it came out in 2020.

10 is in both. Oh, what the fuck? But except in 2020, in the next year, it is suddenly number one. Yeah. But in the previous year, it was number six. So clearly, rating-wise, 2010 is better movies. Yeah. I mean, I can already see the different.

Okay, we'll go down. So the movies in the 2010s that are the highest rated is number one, inception. Number two, interstellar. Yeah. Numbers three, parasite. Number four, whiplash. Number five, Django and Chained. Number six, the Intouchables.

Number seven, Avengers, Infinity War. Number eight, Spider-Man into the Spider-Verse. Number nine, Wolf of Wall Street. And number 10, Mad Max Fury Road. Yeah, I mean, that last decade is the weakest. Yeah, definitely. There's some great ones on there. Whiplash, Parasite, Interstellar.

You know, I've never seen Parasite or Whiplash. You should watch them. I do want to. I do really want to watch them. Yeah, I think 20s... What's the Intouchables? Intouchables is a French film. Okay.

I've never heard of it. Les Aunt French Terrible. Intouchables? Yes. I've never even seen this film before. Yeah, I've seen this one. Oh, it was 20. Isn't this?

Is it good? It's really, really good. Yeah, it's about a guy who takes care of someone who is paraplegic. And they just form a friendship. And it's like a lifelong bond. And it's great. One of those like life affirming, life touching films.

Right, right. All right. Well, look, yeah, this decade is the weakest out of the three for sure. I think the 90s is the best one. Maybe who is it that said that superhero films was... Scorsese. Scorsese. Maybe Scorsese was right, you know?

I just, look. No. I just can't, you know? Like, the dark night, I allow it. I allow it. It doesn't feel like a superhero film. Yeah. Yeah.

But when we're getting into like Spider-Verus and Finney War, I'm like, I don't know, man. I mean, I enjoyed Spider-Vus. I like you a lot. Spard-Vos is great. To let me dead in the eye and tell me it's a top-10 film. Like, I don't know, man. Yeah. It doesn't have the, I don't know, especially when you compare it to the 90s list, it just doesn't have that, I don't know, the,

the conviction that it's like, yeah, this is like a top 10 film. You know what I mean? Like, I mean, I mean, it is, it is like decade defining because I feel like it's weird that animation, this decade is the spiderverse animation. And I would say this decade is most definitely defined by superhero films. It will be unfortunate. Yeah. Yeah. For better or worse.

Yeah, for better or worse, this, the 2010s was defined by superhero films. And, yeah, I think Spider-Verse in. Spider-Man into the Spider-verse is a fantastic film, a animation marvel, but comparing it to some of the classics of previous decades. Yeah, when you scroll back up to the 90s list. Look, the departed, which is like number nine on the 2010s, is like, I'd be probably like top three in the next decade.

Yeah, probably, yeah. I mean, but just like, look at this 90s list. The 90s list is disgusting how good this is. This is insane. This is a run. Totally. There is not a single. film here where you're like, eh, maybe not.

My God. Any one of these films, except for the Bichindler's list, would have been a poster you'd had in your room growing up. Yeah. This is still a generational run. Totally. I would say, damn. Like, most of my favorite films ever are on this list.

How do we get this list? Because I would be interested to see what the 80s are, because I feel like the 80s would have an equally strong list as well. Top movies of the 80s, let's see Yeah, top rated movies of the 80s IMDB Do you feel like movies get worse every year? Is cinema falling off?

Back to the future. Back to the future, E.T. Ghostbusters, Star Wars, 16 candles, the shining, holy shit, raging ball. Raiders of the Lost Ark. Do your own thing, the Princess bride, the thing. Oh, my God.

The 80s. Terminator Blade, you're running. is also fucking goaded as well. My God. Give me that unkslop, Matt. Oh, dude. Give me that fucking unkslop.

I will take these any, any day of the week. Hell yeah, dude. Damn, holy shit. Films were popping off. Never ending story, Akira. Kira was the 80s. I was wondering when I was learning the list. I was like, yeah, 88.

No, yeah, it's the 80s. Perispuola. Yeah, I would say, look at the list. I don't know. How can I, how can I sum up each day? decades. Well, 90s would be just the cinema-defining cinema. Cinema.

Absolute cinema would be the 90s. Yeah. And then 2000s would be, I guess, where, scroll down to the 2000s. 2000s would be kind of the start of, I would say, I don't even want to say, it's still cinema. Well, in the in the 70s in cinema, we had the epics, right? They were the ones that they would like literally kill hundreds of animals to do the elaborate scenes and stuff. Like they were like, it was an epic. Like they were like three hours.

Yeah. They were ridiculous. And we got that in the 80s. And the 90s, we got more of these, you know, like the Goodfellas. We got the Pulp Fiction, a lot more like character driven. Character driven smaller, not as epic, but amazing stories. Yeah. And then we kind of get, I feel like the Dark Knight and Lord of the Rings.

like the harbingers of what is to come. Yeah. The Lord of the Rings is, I guess, the first, like, modern epic, really, I feel like, the three-part giant saga. It's about as epic as it gets, leading into the 2010 superhero boom. I would say that... Dark Night as well, the Dark Night trilogy, too. I would say that the 2000s is kind of the decade where there is one IP that

is not on this list that I think had a massive effect on the film industry. That's Harry Potter. Oh, yeah. Harry Potter. Because I feel like, I look at Lord of the Rings, the Dark Knights, as some of the top movies of the 2000s, and thinking about Harry Potter as well. And I'm just like, this is where you kind of like,

you kind of see that shift to like more IP-focused, like mega-IP-focused films, which would eventually blossom into like the Marvel Cinematic Universe that we see in the 2010s. My kid's gonna think I'm so fucking weird. I'm like, no, you don't understand how big Harry Potter was. He's like, what are you talking about? I don't watch that old shit, dad.

Yeah, yeah. I'm like, no, it was everywhere. It was the only thing we could think about for 10 years. I don't want to watch that unks for. Can we Google, what are the top grossing films? Because I think that would be pretty interesting as well. Because these are the top rated on IMDBs. But what are the top grossing films?

Oh, just of all time? Of the 2000s. Oh, Avatar. And that was... Pirates of the Caribbean as well. Yeah. Yeah, Pirates of the Caribbean, Avatar, yeah, Lord of the Rings, Pirates, Pirates,

Harry Potter, the Dark Nights, Pirates, Finding Nemo. Classic. Trek. Yeah, what are the top grossing films of the 90s? That's what I would be interested in. Titanic, Titanic, Jurassic Cork, Star Wars, Episode 1, Lion King. But this is also when they started realizing the value of merchandise as well.

Yeah. Which I think Jurassic Park. I mean, I guess the... Man in Black was one of the top grossing films of the 90s. Do you remember that? That was like... That was everywhere. We were growing out.

I do remember. I didn't realize it was one of the top grossing films of the 90s. Because it beat out, what, Terminator 2? And Armageddon. Yeah. That's insane. Toy Story 2. This is where movie budgets are under 100 well.

Yeah, that's true. That's true. Yeah, honestly, the 90s has like... The 80s and... 90s. That's a generational run. I rewatched I rewatched Fight Club recently because Sydney had never seen it.

And it's so weird. It's very weird. Re-watching a film like Fight Club with re-contextualized in like the modern zeitgeist. Right. Like Alpha males. Yeah, like Alpha males.

And you know, the post like Andrew Tate world is just it's really weird. because I feel like it's still like an incredible film, but it changes the way you view a character like Tyler Darden. And I would almost feel like, you know, Fight Club was a very, very interesting film when it came out in the 90s, but now it's kind of almost become more relevant in capturing,

in capturing some of like modern culture in a way. Totally. even if I think a lot of people misunderstand the point of a character like Tyler Durdon it's super it was super surreal I haven't seen it in so long I feel like I should rewatch it again

probably a good rewatch to go it is a very very good rewatch I would highly recommend it because damn you hear some of the stuff that Tyler says and you're like damn no wonder like so many alpha males take his words, like quite literally, because it really does capture

an anger and frustration in society. Yeah, yeah. Damn. But I think we like the 90s there overall. Yeah, when it comes, I mean, like, again, that top ten list is just such a generational run of movies. Like, it's hard to argue against that.

Do you know what I miss? I miss Tom Hanks films. You know, like... He did one not too long ago. That was okay. What was it? Oh, something about happiness. what the name was. The Phoenician?

He's not really in the Phoenician. Astrood City, a man called Otto. A beautiful day. That one I watched. Wow, that was six years ago. That was six years ago. Holy far. Wait, no, sorry.

That's the, not this one. I apologize. That is the Mr. Rogers. Yeah, sorry. Wrong one. That was the Mr. Rogers one. I got confused. He did another movie that came out recently where he started it.

No, what I mean specifically is just this kind of like the the Tom Hanks kind of like emotional life-affirming kind of films. You're talking about like the castaways. Yeah, like the Carstowice, right? The Forest Gump's. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Green miles. Catch me if you can.

You know what I mean? We're not in an era of hope, gone. I just, I miss that. I, you know, I rewatch Forrest Gump on Christmas and I didn't realize how, how, how, is it. It's not even said on Christmas, but how good of a Christmas movie it was. Yeah. Just watching it and feeling like hope and joy in humanity and feeling like...

Yeah, we don't have that anymore. Yeah, there's no, like, the 90s had so many and the 2000s had so many of those hopeful human dramas that have like a happy message or an affirming ending. You don't see those anymore. Even something like Shawshank, you know, someone, a movie about someone going through a pretty terrible situation. it's like so fucking hopeful in its messaging and it's just aura, I guess. Although I do like 2010's films. It's modern day robin pets and movies.

All very good. I like them, good time, lighthouse. True, true. I like those movies a lot. Yeah. So we'll see. I mean, we're getting the A24 film. That's kind of like a meme as well.

Yeah. Yeah. And some of them are, you know, complete garbage. But some of them are really fun. Yeah, I do. We were in an interesting time. We were seeing that a dichotomy of big, giant blockbusters. And then the art housey films.

Which I think have realized that we should just make movies for less money. Yeah. And that seems to be a solid idea. It seems to be working out pretty well. Hey, the movie doesn't have to do that good because you only gave you 20 million. Yeah. So good luck, man. Yeah, figure it out.

Yeah, pretty much. Worst case scenario, we'll just sell it to planes. And they can put it on the antenna system. Yeah, I mean, I would say, like, right now movies are either like superhero movies or they're just, they're just doing their own thing, weird stuff. Yeah. The genre pieces are definitely, like, much more stronger. I feel like in this decade. The art house biopics are the main shows right now.

I'm hoping Christopher Nolan's Odyssey is good. I mean, I'm hoping it's great. I'm hoping. I'm a little worried. Hopefully. The cast seems interesting. You know, we'll see. Yeah, we'll find out.

But hey, there you go. Let us know. That was our 90s versus 2000s versus 2010s video. Let us know what you think. Damn, every decade won awards. Yeah. Yeah. In a different medium.

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