Trash Taste Podcast - Collecting Doesn't Feel the Same Anymore | Trash Taste #309

Episode Date: May 22, 2026

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Thank you to Vessi for sponsoring this episode. Hello and welcome to another episode of Trash Taste. I'm your host for today, Gantz, joining me once again. Are the boys? What's up? How's it been, guys? Good. It's been good.

It's been good. Yeah, I'm going to be taking Connor to Thailand tomorrow, actually. I'm excited. Tomorrow? Yeah, we're in tomorrow. Maybe tomorrow, Joey. Actually, technically it's a day after because we're taking a 1 a.m. flights. Yeah, but we're going to Thailand.

It can't. Yeah. So I actually, I actually don't know because. I know I'm taking you to Thailand for a few days, but I know you're going off to other places and other countries. What's the plan? What countries are you hitting up? I'm just going to Thailand and Vietnam because I haven't been to Vietnam and I thought, fuck it's close enough.

Yeah, it's like a fire, bro. Yeah. You're going to love it. Yeah. This seems good. I mean, I feel like everyone always asks me, they're like, oh, you're in Japan. You must have gone to like all the Southeast Asian countries. And I'm like, no.

I feel like, you know, I want to slowly work my way. around going to all these countries. But you're going to Thailand because obviously it's easy to go when you have someone who knows the city or the area, right? Yeah. The local. And I know that you know what I like too,

which makes it easier. Because sometimes people, you know, you go to visit a friend or something and they're like, dude, you're going to love this. I've got this great thing planned. You're like, cool, what is it? Like, it's a 4 a.m. hike. We're going to start now.

And I'm like, whoa. Yeah. Maybe we should ask me what I like. Yeah, well, I'm, but I know that, you know, it'll be fun. So I just want to kind of explore size these days. So you see, my, my issue with fighting for Connor is that he's only in Bangkok one day. And my issue was, shit, which food places do I take him out? Yeah.

I was about to say the things that Connor likes, food, booze, sleep. Yeah. Yeah. What you do is like take me to like some great food places? Yeah. I don't know. No, because it depends on like, what vibe are you going for? You go for like the proper, you know, street food level.

local vibe, maybe testing out your stomach a bit, or do you want something? You're a street food kind of guy? Yeah, I don't mind street food. I think there is an aspect of the precarious nature of it that's quite exciting. That is true. I like that gamble of like, I might actually just die from this. Yeah, it also is amazing. Normally street food is really good, but what I like about street food is that you get

to see how they make it. You can kind of judge if you're down for like the process, if you like believe in it. Yeah. Because, you know, sometimes they have those like candied fruits on a stick. and it's like a teenager just sitting on a box, and you're like, they made this like 10 hours ago and they just have like a box,

you know what I mean? It's like when a guy's making it in front of you and the energy is like kind of insane. That's not food. That's a candle at that point. Yeah, you're like, I'm ready. You know, it depends what you get. But I like, I like street food's great.

Yeah. And normally you can get a lot. Yeah, I mean, it's like if you go to just street foods or just food markets in general, the beauty of that is that you don't need to condemn yourself to just one dish. you can get like a little bit of so many dishes. I feel it's the best way to like get a good peek at like how the locals like interact

and how like that all happens, right? Because like it's half the fun of going to a food market for me. It's just like seeing all the locals just being like going to their usual spots. Yeah. And just being like, yeah, boss man, you're more usual. And I'm just like, yeah, fuck you. I love that. Hell yeah.

Yeah, since I've been in Thailand quite a lot recently, there's like a morning market right next to where I live and I've been like hitting it up. And, you know, you just kind of like, you see, you see like the same faces enough times. And especially when you're going with a foreigner as well, they will definitely 100% recognize you. Like, I just, like, I just came back from tight new years. And I've talked about it before where it's like, you know, the entire country goes through massive water fights. And, you know, this is cool.

It's fun if you're going to visit and stuff like that. But it can be precarious if you just want to go out just to live your normal daily life. Because I was just trying to go out to get, I was just trying to go out to get dinner. And unfortunately, driving around when you have Sydney on your back, it's like an auto-targeting system. So.

Oh, right, yeah, of course they're going to want to shoot the white person. She's white, get them. So I'm used, you know, depending on where you're on Thailand, because I'm not right in the center of the city where, you know, you are going to get agro no matter what. I'm like, you know, honest, outskirts of the city. And the etiquette sometimes is you're going to get sprayed. But it's the amount you get sprayed.

You know, you're going to get hosed down by like a water pipe maybe. But, you know, there are kids with like water buckets. And normally some people ask, you know, are you taking part in this songground? Or are you just like going about your day? So they don't spray everyone. You know, a lot of people, a lot of places I know, they do ask beforehand before they chuck a bunch of like a huge water bucket on you. All rules go out of the window when you're having a white person on the back of the

black man. It's like, we know why you're here. Yeah, me and Sydney just wanted to get dinner. They see the white person and it's the, it's the kids, right? It's the kids. You go around and you get like 10 water buckets just, and it's ice cold water as well. ALS ice bugger challenge. Yeah, yeah.

It's pretty hot, right? It is. It is very. Is it hot right now in Thailand? Um, so you are coming in the start of not so much the rainy season, but it is going to be a little bit of rain there. And that's not a bad thing. Rain is good in Southeast Asia. I like rain in Southeast Asia because April time is when it's like normally the hottest,

and that is like peak Japan summer kind of like weather. I like rain because as soon as it rains, it only rains for like an hour or two and it like brings brings down the temperature for a bit and it's actually kind of refreshing. It's nothing like British rain, you know? Yeah, British rain is depressing. Yeah. It's like kind of soul crushing.

Yeah. Because it's just so strong and cold. Always cold. And long. It's very cold. Yeah, it doesn't end normally. Yeah, exactly. Japan's rain is also kind of a joke sometimes.

I feel like it goes on forever. Oh, you think so? Hmm. Do you're a rainy season it does? I guess normally... What is rainy season in Japan? I swear rainy season. and just doesn't exist anymore.

Yeah, I think it's gone. Like, the climate is so fucked now that like, because normally, yeah, it's like, end of May. No, it's usually, yeah, end of May or June. Yeah, June is the main part. But I swear last June, we did not have a rainy season at all. I agree with you because I remember when I, you know,

back when we came to visit you, like, like yearly, I was like, we normally'd come like June, July. And it was like raining almost every day. All the time. All the time. Yeah. And now it's just this mythical thing that just doesn't happen. It's like Japanese winters.

Japanese winters in Tokyo, at least. It's not a cycle anymore. It's just a suggestion. It's like, it's a bit cold today, right? Winter. They'll tell you about the four seasons. Japan is four seasons. Yeah, Japan is four seasons.

It doesn't. No, they do have four seasons, but the ratio of the seasons is completely off. I swear to summers in Japan. It's the big summer, man. It's getting longer every year. It's six-month summers, well. That's how it's become.

Like from May to like October is fucking summer. Yeah. And then it's like, oh, you get a little bit of like autumn for like three days and then it's like winter. Yeah. It's like kind of like early May right now and we're recording this. I don't know if I should tell that. But the weather is like amazing. Like going out like a lot of, there's a lot of restaurants that have like outdoor seating.

Which I feel like only appears for this like one week. Because the rest of the year, nobody wants to fucking sit outside. Yeah. It's awesome. It's like great. But in a couple of weeks from now, it's going to be. thinking hot. Yep. Stupidly hot and I can't wait.

It feels like we're the frog. The frog where the, they're turning up the temperature slowly. I know it's raising, but I'm not alarmed. I'm like, yeah, I'll be fine. And then suddenly before I know it, I go outside and I'm sweating 24-7. And I don't know why.

Three showers a day per minimum. Yeah, I remember, like, it got to a point because, you know, when I was in Thailand, I was, I never needed to use, like, the water temperature because when I took a shower, the coldest it would go naturally

because the pipes were so hot was just like... So you'd agree? It was warm... I got a warm water shower every day turning on the cold water. That's so real. Bro, can I fucking... Speaking of hot weather,

can I like rant real quick about something? Okay. I'm sure you guys have experienced this too. But so like yesterday I made a reel about like how I recently bought a gym bear which is like kind of like a, like the very casual kind of not kimono clothing I guess, but like yukata clothing.

You have a picture that we can show. Yeah, yeah, pull it up. Sorry, audio listeners. Yeah, but basically for audio listeners, it's kind of like a very casual yukata that a lot of Japanese men and kids wear during the summer that's like existed for a really long time. And I've always wanted one

because it's so fucking comfy. And so I posted about it. And, you know, it's like starting off being like, oh, you know, Japanese summers get, really fucking hot if you don't know. So I wanted to wear something that was like appropriate for the season that also looks kind of cool. Every single time you mention hot weather on anything. 50,000 comments of, you think that's hot? That's like spring in Southeast Asia. That's like winter in blah, blah, blah. No one cares. No one gives a fuck about the, I didn't ask about the weather

in your country. If it's hot, it's hot. Yeah, the last comment was laughs in Texas. Yeah, like, fucking, I didn't ask you if it's hot. I've been to Texas in summer, it's not nearly as bad. It is not nearly as bad. Dry heat is never bad. Yeah, anybody who has come to Japan during the summertime will tell you, I've had Southeast Asians say this to me, just being like,

it is worse than Southeast Asian summer, just because it's the humidity that fucking kills you. And there are so many people, every single time there's like, this weird dick measuring contest of like, my country hotter than yours. It's like, what is the point of that? It's like, cool, cool. It's like, cool, bro. You're living in hell, I guess. Sick. Why is that a brag?

Yeah, I mean, can confirm. I personally think that Japanese summers, at least in Tokyo, are worst. Yeah. There's no air. Like, there's no, no way for, like, winter blow. It's stagnant air. Yeah, you just have, like, concrete.

And there's no trees, because they didn't think of fucking trees. So it's, it's like, of human design. that it's like the worst city in summer. Yeah. Yes, exactly. So I don't know. That was just my rant, though. The same thing happens with winter as well. Whenever you say anywhere is really, really cold. They just like, meanwhile, me in Alaska, ugh.

Me and your tusk. Yeah, me and your cuts where it's like minus 50 degrees every day. It's like cool, bro. No, do you know what's worse? It's when anyone in England complains about when we get that one week of heat wave in England. That, and then becomes a UK clowning session. Yeah. Much like even more than usual. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, to be fair, you guys don't have AC, so you kind of had to come.

Yeah. We didn't need it. No, but I swear now it's like every year you guys have that heat wave, right? And it's getting longer and longer. Yeah, but the houses are like older than America. Yeah. Every house is like 100 plus years old. You can't just fucking add an AC unit without like, it's ridiculous. What about those like portable ones? I guess you could. Yeah. But yeah. I guess a lot of that people's reluctance to buy something

they only need for like one week. Yeah. I mean, that's also on that. Because as much as those fucking slice of life anime and the Inuka will tell you otherwise, those tiny little fans ain't doing shit. Oh, blowing hot air on you does not help. Yeah, it does not do anything. I disagree. I'm, I'm a fan.

No, it is. You don't understand, man. That is like, the fan is, it's not as good as the fucking privileged AC or something, but I don't know. Don't bring privilege on this. I'm going to put privilege on because, like, to me, growing up, I was like,

the AC is like the last resort. You better be like melting or almost on the, like, risking heat stroke if you're going to put on the AC. You know how much electricity that shit that takes off? No, I get it. Japanese heat pumps are very efficient. The Japanese ingenuity. I think maybe I'd love to see like a graph card.

you say, can you Google, like, Japanese heat pump versus AC? I think, like, they're very, it's like, they're, like, really good. This is peak for my male audience content, right? Any recent AC before, whatever than that radiating, yeah. Well, radiators are the biggest fucking joke in the UK. Radiators? Oh, my God, bro. You don't have radio?

Oh, you're from Australia, of course. No. Can you pull up British radiator for, oh, my God. I know what a radiator is. I never understood the point of it. Have you seen them? Like the ones in the room, like the British ones? Yeah, yeah, yeah. One of these ones. Every house in the UK had these.

It's awful. I don't know why we normalize this shit, man. So how, explain to me, because I never grew up with these. Okay. How does, how do these work? Sure, it radiates. Oh, yeah, shit, I got back. Basically, there's a, there's a, like a, a, like, viscous oil that's going through it, I think. Right. And basically, uh, you just gets hot.

Hot water to heat it up. Okay. And then it basically is like giant poles. And they can get really hot too. Yeah, because I've always looked at those in like movies and stuff and I'm like, that just looks like a burn hazard. I mean, it can be. Yeah.

Like, it doesn't get like, it's not like a pan. Like it doesn't like, you don't cook anything on it. It still gets hot enough where if you direct skin contact, you don't hurt after a while. So I've seen people put like tea kettles on it. Yeah, yeah. It just keeps it warm. Oh, right, right.

But like, you know, in the winter, the concept is like, it is like slowly kind of heating up the room without doing any noise. And you can kind of keep it at a lower level. But my problem with those radiators is that it never makes the house the temperature you want it to. It's always too hot. It's always too hot and then you turn it off and it becomes

immediately like too cold. And then it takes forever to heat up. Right, right. When you're turning it on, you're pretty much turning it on for the whole day. There's no in between. Yeah. And they're always like so big. Well, I guess the newer ones are smaller. But any houses that I used to live in Wales always had the really old style ones. Yeah.

Take up a good chunk of like wall space that you now can't put anything near because this fucking heating element is there. Do European countries use radiators as well? I'm sure they do. They know, actually. It's a good question. Yeah. I feel like I've seen them in the,

is it only the British that you used? Yeah. Let's see. Denmark, Germany. Denmark, Germany. Oh, okay. So all the cold countries. That makes sense.

Great. Well, I guess radiators, but full housing. Well, I guess that actually would be the same system. Because what would happen is, is that you would have all the radators set to, like, number two or something on the dial. And then someone in, like, the kitchen or the house would click the radiator, like, button.

And then all of them would turn on. Oh. So it's like a centralized radiator. Yeah, because I think the idea is, like, it's just much more efficient to heat the entire house, like, evenly than try to, like, Oh, so there isn't just, like, one in the house. There's, like, multiple.

Every room will have one. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, because I was about to say, like, how would the heat travel? Well, I feel like you don't need it in, like, South England. Yes, he gets cold. He gets cold enough. He gets cold enough everywhere in England, man. Meanwhile, me in Alaska.

Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Mine is 40 every day. I'm sorry, Connor. Are you, are you Canadian suddenly? I just saying, it's pretty fucking cold. It's pretty fucking cold in the South of England in winter as well. You southern-born folk, have it so good, you know. As northern born are scrounging for scraps.

You fucking northern fuck. We have to huddle with our sheep. Either way. I know that like, I know that the cold is like a way deadlier force than being too hot. Yes. But I really prefer the cold. I could just add layers or blankets.

Yeah. I will be still freezing. And especially the mornings suck the most when it's freezing. Even in Japan, like, we get that like two weeks in January where it's actually pretty cold. Yeah. You're like, when you get out of bed to like the bathroom, you're like, ha, ha, ha. It's like, my peepee's so small.

That's pretty cold. But how often you have to use your AC in Japan? Oh, it's on now until like October. Is this fucker? Is this this motherfucker? Are you serious? Yeah. It's a good temperature right now.

Not when I'm sleeping. Not when I'm sleeping. When I'm doing... Is it too hot or too cold now? Too hot. It's too hot. It's too hot right now. My bedroom is too hot. Get a fucking fan. Open the window. I'm not going to go.

Gotten the window, bro. No, I do open the window, but it's not enough. Don't you sleep naked? I do. It's not. I'm fat, Joe. I'm a thick boy. And I realize, like, my body heat, I just keep it more than I think is, like, normal by any metric. Because I'll sit down with, like, my body heat. my legs cross into like a normal room.

I'll be like, I gotta move because after like 30 minutes, I'm sweating. Like my legs are like swamp ass and everything. It's bad. Wait, if I'm just sitting still? Yes, I'm sitting still. Jesus Christ. You're like a radiator, bro.

I am. That's the streamer ass. You've gotten too used to sitting on your streamer chair for so long. It needs to like have a natural cool down system. Yeah. You need a water cooling system for your ass. Maybe I've got too much like internal fat or something. I sleep so hot that I have to sleep naked,

And then I have to use the leg outstrat always. Oh, really? Maybe even two legs. Got to have a leg outside of the blanket constantly. Maybe two, maybe two. And always arms, obviously. Yeah. I've just, I've gotten used to recently.

I've been sleeping like really thin blankets. And I can't. The thinest blanket. I can't go back to thick blankets. Really? Even during the winter? Yeah. I just, I don't know.

I would, what do I do in winter? I literally, instead of getting more blankets, uh, I don't know. I just sleep on like, I just sleep on with like a jumper or something. I don't know. Even in like the coldest winters, I will still sleep the same because I still run so hot that inside the bed will get quite warm within like two minutes. Yeah.

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I just have the AC on like permanently now. Oh my God. So yeah, my electricity bill is quite high. Yeah, right. Fucking hell. It's running the entirety of Tokyo. The problem is with the stream room as well.

Obviously, we're streaming, like, and we have these lights. Like, these lights produce so much heat in the room as well. And then you've got a PC that's, like, working at full power. So you just got, like, multiple things in your room that are constantly heating it up. And luckily I'm in the basement. So it's actually not so bad. Yeah. But still, when I'm streaming in there, I need to have here.

Thank God. Tokyo generates footsteps into electricity. Thank God. Thank God. Thank God. Yeah, I didn't realize until recently because I knew the PC I knew PC obviously produces heat. So much more heat than you realized.

I didn't realize how much heat. So much. I had this moment where I'd go, like, I think it was like two years ago or something, where I'd go in my office and it was the winter. And my, my heater in my office is like, it's workable, but it's, it's an old one. It takes a while to get going.

And it would always be too cold when I'm scripting. But for some reason, I was like, why is it whenever I'm streaming? I start fucking sweating, bro. And I thought, damn, am I just that energetic on stream? And then I realized, oh, it's just more efficient to heat up my office by just streaming than just actually putting on the heat on. Just running GTA in the background.

Yeah, if you've got like a pretty beefy PC, like a one one and you're streaming, you're probably using like all of that. Yeah. So all that heat is getting pumped into the room. Yeah. That's why I don't really put my heater on in my office anymore. I just kind of... I never have to put the heater on in my eyes.

If anything now, like the only you've, room in my house now that has the AC on almost semi-permanally is my office. It's because my PC is just going to be like, help. It's too hot. Yeah. What's your peak temperature? What did you have at? 21 or 20.

21? 21? No, I have a, wait, it depends, though, for me. Because if I'm just in my office and I'm just chilling and working, then it'd be like 20. But when I sleep, I put it on like 18. What the fuck, bro? Oh, 18? Yeah.

The ACM, my new place doesn't go down, doesn't go below 20. I was so disappointed. What? Yeah, it's 20 is the limit. I can go down at like 16 on my. 16 is crazy. I would never put it on 16, but. 16 is like fucking.

18. Yeah, 18, 19 is where I usually put it at. Yeah. You know the best part when you have a laptop and your feet are cold and you, like, little feet charger? You know, you do that? You put the battery. Well, the battery. It's like the, the AC converter.

Oh, yeah. And you get the fucking brick heater for your feet. Oh, it's Godlike. Godlike. That shit hits every time. That's the gamer heaters, man. You got the PC. I'm not gamer enough to do that.

I'm sorry. You got the PC to warm up the room and the little bricky. Because we both got the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, Asouc's streaks. Yeah. Like, it's ridiculous. It's like a $10,000 laptop. Is that the double? No, no, that's sick though, too.

Yeah. That's the duo. Yeah. Yeah. We just advertise them. But we have this one. It's basically a portable desktop. Damn.

But the fucking, like, AC adapter brick is fucking huge. It's like this. And that shit gets so warm and toast. And I always put my feet on it. It's so good. It's so good. Optimization. Yeah.

Oh, my God. But I also just came back to Hawaii, came back from Hawaii as well. When are you here? Yeah. I'm not this year. Yeah. You have not been here, like, at all. You're only back for trash taste, then you leave again.

Yeah. What about the fuck? You're paying room for a place. I'm literally, I'm literally, I'm literally back for two days. And then I'm taking you to Thailand. And then I'm staying for a little bit longer. Jesus Christ. So yeah, I don't know.

I've been definitely getting my air miles in. To be fair, it is, uh, most, most of the time I've been traveling this year has just been because of various weddings. Yeah. Everyone's getting married consistently. You know, a wedding like speed run. Yeah, yeah. Thanks, Jerry, for having your wedding, you know, not abroad. No, I appreciate it.

It's only in Tokyo, don't worry. I don't have to take time off to be like, okay, guys, we're flying. It's a day trip, don't worry. How was Hawaii? Because we went two years ago? Yeah. Has it already been that long? Yeah.

Damn. I was wondering if my opinion of Hawaii would change after going for, like, an actual, like, not work trip, but just, you know, a wedding and then actually spending time. A vacation. like, you know, with family and stuff like that. And unfortunately, it didn't change. I know, we did go see more of the, more of the island this time. Right.

So I think last time we just stayed in Honolulu. This time I explored like the North Shore and went to the other side of Oahu. Did you rent out of the scooter again? No, I didn't this time. You didn't get a giant truck? We did get a giant truck. We got a Jeep this time. Yeah.

Well, actually, I've learned this. Americans get really upset when you call Jeep's trucks. They're like, it's not a truck. It's a Jeep. It's a four-wheel drive. We got a Jeep and we basically drove all the way around the island. I didn't know. So the other side of the island, totally fucking different vibe to what we saw.

I didn't know. We were driving through this, through part of the north side. And Sydney's dad is, you know, obviously he's like, okay, we got, We got to find a bar. Where's next bar to stop off that? I need a beer. And we went through the strip where we just kept stopping off at towns. And I was like, damn, there's, there's no, there's nothing.

There's nowhere to buy a drink here at all. And so we found out when we were up there that one, like, there is like one side or like a few towns that is Mormon owned. What? Yes. Yeah. In Hawaii. In Hawaii. In Oahu.

Wow. Yeah. Can you search it up? That's crazy. Oahu, yeah. A long way from Utah. Yeah. Church of Jesus Christ,

it's the Lannaday Say. Yes, the village. They purchased 6,000 acres in 1865. Yeah. Wow. So that part of the island is just completely dry. Oh. Yeah.

I think I must have drove near here But I was with you, Kai. Maybe we didn't go this north. Yeah, which part did you drive? Did you drive through? Because we kind of just like drove all the way, all the way around. I've definitely never been that far up. I went to the nuts farm, the macadena nuts farm.

Oh, the macadena nuts farm. Did you go there? We didn't go there. We went by, we stopped by the pineapple plantation. Oh, the doll. Yeah, the doll or the dull ones. Yeah. That's where I went to. I think that's what we turned around.

Yeah. So actually, yeah, you went way further. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And honestly, one of my favorite parts of my second trip to Hawaii, we didn't really do this so much, but they do have a big, like, food truck culture there. Like, going up north, there is, like, very, very little restaurants.

But every time you were looking for food, you just go to, like, this compound, and it's just like a bunch of food trucks, like, next to each other. And it's, you know, to me, it's kind of, you know, we talked about it's the Southeast Asian food markets. It's very, very similar to that. Yeah, the island vibe. Yeah, yeah.

You just get the island vibe and you just get whatever, you know, little food you want from my food trucks. And the thing I love about food trucks is that, you know, it's a truck that is just focused on making this one thing and there's one thing. And that's all they worry about. Put all my skill points into this one dish. Right, right? Totally.

Because I've definitely been to like some restaurants now where you go, it's always a bit where you go to a restaurant and if if the menu is like that thick you're like what's going on it's a wrap there is one piece of gold in this field of rocks yeah there is no way you have all of these ingredients prepared for all of these different dishes and it's all going to be as good as each other 100% I do like the food a lot yeah I think coffee I remember being exceptional as well wine coffee but it's very expensive I mean everything's everything's expensive yeah they grow like um Kona coffee, I think it is. That's like the really expensive one.

I think I went to the roastery. It was so good. Yeah. But it was, I've never paid so much for a cup in my life. I mean, everything on this island, because we thought we was going to get cheaper as we like went out of Honolulu. And I was just like, God, fucking. I remember seeing a bunch of signs being like, yeah, like, basically like,

people were obviously rightfully upset that they'd been gentrified so much that no one could afford to live there anymore. Yeah. I remember seeing that constantly when we were driving out. Yeah. Honestly, driving around, it didn't make me want to retry surfing because there were... Because, you know, I, you know, in Thailand, there's like a lot of beaches, but people don't normally go there to surf. Whereas every beach we stopped up in the Hawaii, I swear, there was like, you know, people...

Surf as paradise everywhere. And just some of the waves, especially like Northside, which is, you know, where they get, like, some of the biggest waves. It's just... I don't know. I've never seen a wave that curls down. so perfectly, consistently, and I'm like, oh, this is... The golden ratio? Yes. I totally get what you mean. Yeah, I was just like sitting there for, I think, like, in like half an hour or

to an hour, just watching those, just like, just watching these waves make that perfect circle. And I was like, this is very satisfying. And I'm not used to these kinds of waves. Yeah, hell yeah. You know, do they get those kinds of waves in Australia? Because I know it's big in Australia as well. Oh, 100%.

Yeah, we get, yeah, a lot of... I don't remember exactly which beaches, because we have, like, literally thousands of them, but some of the ones up in Surfers Paradise in the Gold Coast get like the most insane waves I've ever fucking seen, where it's just like, anyone you would look at that and be like, oh, that's a mission. Like, I would not want to be in that wave whatsoever.

Yeah. The wipeout in some of these would knock some people out. But surfers are just like, you know, sick dude, and just fucking go in, right? See, maybe it is totally my, it is totally my ignorant brain where I'm like, how dangerous is surfing? How dangerous can a wave be?

Pretty fucking dangerous. And then I didn't realize until seeing it in person how big these waves get. I was like, oh shit, this is going to hurt. I think anything in the ocean is like inherently a bit dangerous. And then also you add being thrown around by waves. And like, when you surf, sometimes you're like, you get thrown, you pop up, you're like, oh, I'm not where I thought I was.

I've also drifted like 200 meters. I need to like, yeah. I need to walk back. And also, you know, every time you get knocked out, you know, on your surfboard, right? Like you have the surfboard attached to your ankle. So there's just this big piece of fucking, you know, styrofoam that's just like whipping around knee your head.

God, the amount of times you can just get, like, knocked by it. Yeah. I think I went around one time, yeah, I do you remember it like, just another shoots out, right? Yeah. I remember it like, fucking shot out, yanked my leg, came back and smacked me on the head. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, that's, it hurts, bro. Fuck. Fuck. It was fun though. It was fun though. Yeah. I would love to try out more water sports.

It's been one of those things where, similar to like, for me at least, like skiing was something that I'd never just experienced as a kid. It's a full day thing, right? It is, it is. It's kind of a lot of crap and... A lot of energy as well takes. Yeah, because it's like these kind of like water sports or these kind of holidays, it's kind of like, I'm used to going on holiday and just chilling, but it feels like you need to like plan your trip around it. Like, kind of like a ski trip, but you're like, okay, I'm going for this specific activity. And then all other activities is downtime. I love water sports

Have you guys ever like water skied before Or what do they call? Jet ski. Oh, no, no, no, you mean Oh, wakeboarding? Yeah, wakeboarding. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've done it once, yeah.

What's it like? Scary. It's hard. Yeah, it is really hard. I did it in my Oki-Nauer video, I think. I think I was the first time I'd ever done it. And dude, it was so sketch because we were just under the highway

in like some kind of like, it's a cold one as like a, like a, not a golf, like a little, like a circle area. Like a bay. Like a bay. But it felt like I was like,

the water was so deep that I, I had no way of being able to like touch the bottom at all. Yeah. Which is fine. But when you're kind of like strapped to a board and tied up, essentially, you're like, eh, a little bit scary. Just getting dragged around.

Anything like snowboarding? No, it's nothing like anything I've ever done. Well, because you can't control your speed. Yeah, and the hardest part, and she was trying to explain this to me in Japanese, but I was also like getting waterboarded essentially. Because every time I failed, I'd get fucking dragged through the fucking water. But then obviously you'd let go. So then what it's happening when you fail it is that you're just kind of floating with your legs fully attached in.

Yeah. Oh, shit. So that's me doing it. But you can see I'm like, my form isn't the greatest. Yeah, you'll lean really far back. Oh, shit. And what's crazy is that it looks like really, like whatever, but when you're doing it, it's actually so fucking painful.

Yeah. Because the first thing that happens is that your arms get, that's me, your arms get like fucking yoinked. So like they pull you right away like that. And it's just like a, ugh. Yeah, and so there's like two things that happen. You have to lean so far back and fully like lock in your legs to tank that hit. Or your arms get jerked and like fully like,

really hurts your shoulder and elbow. And Crystal will take part? No, Kristen, not want to try this. I would have paid Chris. But then like, I kind of got okay at doing it, but holy shit, the amount of force it took to stay up was like so uncomfortable and draining. Yeah.

Like just to like stay up and getting it working, it looks so effortless when you see people do it on YouTube. Yeah, yeah. But it's fucking awful. Yeah, people, like seeing people do like flips and shit on it. It's so cool, but the one sport you should try, if you haven't yet, the water sport is, I don't know what exactly it's called.

It's the one where it's like the water jet boots. Oh, I did that too. Yeah. You know about that? It's basically this contraption where you essentially have these fucking boots that have water jets attached to the bottom of it. And then you can stand up out of the water.

That is so fun. Once you get the hang of this, which looks like you have a hoverboard. Yeah, dude, it's, it is an unreal feeling. Yeah, basically like it's a hose attached to the jet, jet ski. Yeah. And he basically like revs it so that all the water like goes to this pipe. Right. It was quite good. It was kind of annoying because I remember when I asked him, I was like, can you just fucking set this thing the max so I can go? Yeah. And he didn't do it until like the very

end. Yeah. It was pretty easy to like bounce on it. If you're kind of okay. I'm just iron man in that one. Yeah. Yeah. You do feel like Iron Man. It's kind of dope. Yeah. Chris was not so good at it. He faced. Well, this is his second time he's done. He went like, and he was an aias. Yeah, unfortunately, he's not so good. But it is quite fun. But the gimmick kind of wears off after like five minutes.

You're like, okay. I'm tired of this now. Have you seen those people that have like literally made hoverboards or should like just attaching like jet engines to like boards or, have you seen? People are weird. Hydrofoil?

No. You know, you see hydrofoil? Oh, fuck, that's the coolest one. It's basically like, imagine a surfboard, but you have to buy. it up and down to make it go. Oh, yes.

I have seen this. We did see this a bunch. I didn't know this was what it's called. This shit is hard. Yeah. When did this start becoming a thing? Because I swear I've just started seeing it recently. But yeah, we saw, I saw this a bunch in Hawaii.

There were quite a few people were using this. I do not understand the physics behind this either. Like, how do you, how? A lot of left. All right. Well, so I've used, actually, done, I've done the e-board version of this. You can get a version where it's the same thing, but there's a motor strap to the bottom.

Right. Oh. And it's really interesting because when you're going, you essentially, like, feel like a little bit of weight, and then you kind of wash up. Mm-hmm. You need to not go like crazy because otherwise you just fucking fall back. Yeah. It's so cool when you get that perfect foil where you're, you're basically just standing above the water, like, hovering. Yeah.

Because of the, like, really strong lift. It's really cool. I don't fully understand how it works, though, without a motor. Like, we have to, like, bob it a lot. Yeah, I've just seen people, like, really just fucking get in there and just start going, but I do not understand the physics behind it. Yeah, well, when I was on it, like, it was electrical, but you, I think I remember you did have to still, if you wanted it to go pretty fast, you had to, you had to,

bob it up and down, depending on how hard you bobbed it is how much it would rise. It's interesting. Yeah. It's cool. There's a lot of really good, interesting water sports. with water sports is that often the gear is either expensive and big, uh, and hard to store, or it's like, or it's just hard to do, or you're not near it. Yeah. You're not near a good place. So there's like a million reasons why it's like so impossible to kind of get into. Yeah. And it's normally in like,

yeah, I mean, it's normally in places that is very expensive like Hawaii, for example. You know, even on, even in Thailand, you go to a Thai island and that, that is a more expensive place to be than pretty much the most of, most of other Thailand. Have you ever done sopping, like stand up paddle boarding? No, what is that? Pattleboard is pretty fun. Yeah, stand up paddle boarding. Oh, yeah, I've done paddle boarding.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's super fun. It feels a bit too slow. I'm like, it's just, that's chill, though. That's like a chill thing, you know. Yeah, it's a chill thing. And it's, and it's easy to get into as well. I like, I like kayaking a lot.

I'm a big kayaking fan. Well, we saw what was like. Oh, my balance is with the kayak. You did get waterboarded. You did get waterboarded. That was pretty bad. Look, look. It's a little more shoulder.

Trawl by fire, you know. Yeah, yeah. Would you do it again then? I would do it again. Yeah? Hell yeah. I feel like I would be better in warm waters rather than ice cold water of Switzerland. That was pretty brutal.

That winter lake in Switzerland was pretty... Yeah. Riggie? That was not fun. Yeah. Lake Lucerne, is that it was? Lucerne, yeah. That was pretty fucking cold.

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That was really fun. And then we had that chef who made us like an amazing meal. No, well, oh yeah, well, before that we made our own fucking horrendous hot dogs. Oh yeah. With the fire and shit. We didn't put that in the special, right? When the, the, I forgot the guy who's judging us. He owned a restaurant Just around the corner Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, it's in my vlog though

But we didn't put it in the actual special That was like the most insane 10 out 10 STFO Yeah, it was crazy Like out of nowhere as well Yeah I'm like down Oh, you want lunch?

What? Like I got you Yeah, okay, fuck yeah That was the most That was the best thing in my life Hell yeah Also on the trip to Hawaii I don't know why

I just wanted to not watch anime for once You know I wanted to go out my comfort zone It has begun. Um, I watched, uh, Andor. Have you heard of this? No, Andor. What's, what do you mean that look?

No, no, it's fine, it's fine. Ander's actually like really good. Wait, well, what is it? I just said, why Andor? Why Andor? I don't, I'd heard some good things about this. And I am like not a, I did, at first, I didn't even know this of Star Wars. Oh, Star Wars.

Yeah. It is a Star Wars spin-off. Okay. And the prequel to Rogue One, which I didn't actually know until, uh, What is there blind Donny Yen in there? I've heard it's very good. I just thought, why, andor of all things, do you? It's because you've been on Manu's like One Piece podcast.

Yes. Yeah, I don't know why. I've been on there like two, three times, no, twice. And every time we start talking about like one piece, he's like, okay, but Andor though. I'm like, what the fuck? Wait, Manu's an and all thing? Yeah, he is. And then, and then, you know, you don't want you. hear it one time, you start hearing it like everywhere.

And you know, a lot of people are like recommending this. And yeah, it's basically a Star Wars political thriller. And it's much more slower pace, less action than you would expect from, you know, other. More Dune coded? Yeah. I don't know if that's sacrilegious to say, you know, to compare sci-fi. Well, I mean, Star Wars was influenced by Dune. So, yeah, I mean, I mean, you know, I, I, I was, I went into a completely blind. I was like, I'm not a big Star Wars fan. I don't know anything about it. I haven't seen Rogue One. Uh, but I haven't seen Rogue One. Have you seen Rogue One? Have you seen Rogue One? Is it good? Is it good? Yeah, well, quite good. Yeah. I enjoyed it. Um, and I heard this is the prequel to that, but I heard that you don't need to have seen Rogue One to watch this. So I was like, I'm just gonna go and blind. Um, and yeah, it's, um, probably one of the most, um,

interesting adaptations I've seen of the Star Wars universe as someone who's not a big Star Wars fan. One thing that I think is really well done is that you get to see perspectives on like every side, every organization from like, you know, the rebel side to what is going on on like the Empire side as well. And after watching it, I was like, okay, I can see why, I can see why Manu always compared this to the One Piece world because it was like, it was like almost like, okay, you see the Pirates side. And you see the Marine side as well and you're like, okay, there are some different characters on both side. Not everyone. Manor is a fan of all encompassing narrative. Yeah. Every stone unturned. Manor is O'Hara, by the way. Manuio is O'Hara.

I didn't mention that. Yes. Yes. So did you enjoy it? I did very much enjoy it. I haven't finished season two yet, but I feel like if you get through the first three episodes, of it, I think you will basically figure out whether you like it or not. By far, best character is, oh, his name is Swedish actor. Um, I knew it's gonna be a, uh, Scars card. Scarce Guard. I know it's gonna when you said Swedish, like, I bet it's Scars Guard. Yeah, he, he is by far, like, he's the reason like I kept watching.

He fucking. He's Baron Harkin. Yeah. Well, he's a lot of things. He's a very and scary man. Well, no, because in this role, he plays like a, he plays like this, not so much politician, but someone who is kind of in like the political world of the Star Wars universe, but he's also on the rebel side as well. He's kind of like the leader trying to get all of these different missions going together. And he has to play this like double agent kind of role. And he just absolutely kills it. He's equally, you know, terrifying as he is just such an interesting.

character and I think he is by far the best reasons to watch Andor. I don't know, if you enjoyed Rogue One, which I don't know, I, you know. I would love to. I think TV is tough right now because it's quite a lot of good TV. It is. There's a lot of good TV and watching even like two seasons of his show is like, because I've been one of them watched the Game of Thrones spin-off, the new one that apparently also is amazing. Which has you heard of this one?

No. There's a new... What is it like the Drunkard Tale or something? There's a new, new spinoff? And apparently it's amazing. Like, can you do Game of Thrones spin off? Not House of Dragon, which also has another scene. I thought that was the Game of Thrones spin off.

And Knight of the Seven Kingdoms. Apparently is also very, very good. Apparently it's very funny. Funny? Yeah, it's like a comedy. A century before Game of Thrones. Yeah, so Duncan the Tor and the Squire Egg wandered through Westross. Those are words.

There's what you just said. There's a character called egg. That's egg, yeah. That's fun. And apparently it's pretty good. So... Is this a sitcom based in the Game of Thrones universe? No, it's...

I... Yeah, I don't know. What's the deal with dragons? So yeah, apparently it's very good. Oh. Yeah. But, I mean, they always make Game of Thrones look good, but... It's always the first few seasons, right?

Yeah. Well, that's the thing. Like, House of Dragon, I don't know if you do you watch it? No. Oh, I mean... I heard it, did it go downhill? Season 1 was phenomenal. Yeah.

Season 2 and 3 were like, what are we doing here? And then season 4's coming out where apparently there's going to be a big couple of battles. I don't know, I'll let you know. I'll keep you up. Okay. Not much to talk about right now. So it's kind of like a slow burn.

Well, because I think they want to milk it. They want to milk it. They want to get something. They've, they want to make bank off Game of Theron still. Well, I mean, just get the right amount of seasons for like a show, right? I mean, if you're going to continue making spinoffs sometimes. So is Andor finished or? I haven't finished season two,

but I heard that season two finishes right before break one anyway. Oh, so it's basically it's... Yeah, yeah, so it's only like two. I mean, I love a show that knows not to overstay. Short and sweet. You know, I don't expect that from Disney. Yeah. Sure.

Disney, you know, they've paid a lot of money for Star Wars. I'm sure they want to get as much money out of that license as possible. So that's quite, that's good to hear. Yeah, yeah. I know the Disney Plus has been struggling a lot to make money. Hell yeah. We love to love to see it. I kind of love to see it.

It hates me how I hate it, but actually kind of based. Yeah, I think Disney Plus have been like running Disney into the ground. They've been losing so much money. Based? Can you Google it? How much money is Disney losing Disney? I think it's a crazy amount. Well, I think the main issue is one decent show they like put up.

about 10 fucking awful shows. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's seven months ago. That's with the whole Jimmy Kimmel thing. Yeah, that's basically they lost in India, they lost the cricket rights. Oh, I heard that.

That's math. But apparently they were paying stupid money. And apparently that was one of the reasons why they lost like half their subscribers. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, pretty brutal. They saw it coming no crickets or no reason to buy a subscription. I mean, yeah, yeah, it makes sense.

It seems like a losing formula overall. You're so funny, you mentioned Manu. Yeah. We go swimming together. Manu always gets into some argument with someone. That's right. He's so German. He gets into some debate.

I think like the first time we went, Manu wanted to wear flip flops in the pool. Yeah. And then they were like, you can't wear flip flops. But Manu's like, man is like, it's disgusting. The floor, I could get like, what are they called? You mean in the water or just around the pool side? Around the pool. Okay, okay, okay.

You don't a lot of wear flip flops in the Japanese pool. And then he's like, what? Yeah, you know, wear flip flops around the pool. But it's gross. Hey, look, I'm not saying it's wrong or right, but he's like, you know, he's German. And then he's wearing his like, Dish bullshit. He's wearing like a smart watch

And they come over like You gotta put a cover on that smart watch Which I look I don't know the fuck that means initially I just saw what it meant Because I finally saw someone with the cover In a pool in Japan It is basically a condom

It is this thick rubber thing That you have to like put over your arm That goes over your smart watch They know they're waterproof right Look I know It doesn't make any damn sense Because it's Japanese rules Jesus Christ

And then he got told off because one of the other people who's swimming snitched on him for having a ring on because he had the aura ring. He's like, well, if I can't track it in my watch, I'll track it with my ring. And then if I could, another person is swimming next to him snitch on him to the lifeguard. Oh, my God. It's like 40, by the way. Get a life, right.

Sometimes in a lot of the pools in Japan, when you're swimming, they have lanes. They have like speeds. So they have like beginner. So they have big, one beginner. two slows, two mediums and fast. And occasionally, because we go every week and there's always different people, there's just some people get really upset about like, are you going the speed they think you should be going?

But because there's no like, there's no like speed number, all limit, right? It doesn't tell you how fast you should be in the fast lane. It's kind of like a vibe thing where it's like, hey, you feel like you're going kind of slow. Just go on the slow lane. Or if you're feeling kind of like you're not going fast, but, you know, you don't want to go on the fast lane.

go in the medium lane. Yeah. It's kind of a vibe thing, but some people get like really upset when you're slower or faster than them. They're just mad that you're, they're getting water mowed. Well,

so, so I'm sorry I'm fucking swinging fast. So I think there's a guy in the medium lane. And this is like a very Japanese way I think of thinking is that he, he didn't think he was fast enough for the fast lane, but he should have been in the fast lane.

But instead what he does is he like kind of lashes out of everyone who's too slow in the medium lane. And it's like, he's like, there's two medium lanes, by the way. So you can actually just compare how fast they both are kind of going. So you kind of see that like, hey, yeah, you should probably be on the fast lane.

But some people don't want to be like the slowest in the fast lane. Right. So it's all this kind of like weird thing. And it's, and ultimately, none of it matters. Because you can also just like, it's okay to wait for a second and like be behind someone. Anyway, so Manu would get in this guy would always like, tell Manu to leave. And Matt would be like, no, not leaving. And then we went last.

week, right? This is crazy. I've never seen this before. So it's a public pool, so it can be kind of busy. It's kind of empty. And in the fast lane, there's normally the least amount of people. People don't want to go in the fast lane because you have to be fast. And most people are not like crazy. You know, they just want

to go for a swim. And it's this one guy who's in this lane. And the medium lane has four people. The other medium has five people. And every lane is like, four or five people. And I'm like, okay, fuck it. I'll go in the fast lane. I'm like, even if this guy's fast, it's like if I just stagger when I start there's no way I'll ever be in this dude's way

like not even close and I'm doing it and he's not even like he's fast he's slowly catching up to me and every time he gets close to me I just wait and let him go past yeah right and then as I come back from one man who's come over in the lane with me and he's like kind of behind but it's a it's a really like long pool 50 meters yeah so like for you to be in someone's way you would have to be so fucking slow so anyway I'm staggering it and I finish after this guy. I'm about like 10 meters behind him. So, you know, like not that much.

And then he like calls over the lifeguard. He's like, hey, these guys are too fucking slow. Why are they in the fast lane? And the lifeguard is like, look at him like, bro, I don't care. It is a 50 meter pool. You can just, they're not in your way, bro. He's complaining though. And I'm telling him, I'm like, bitch, I'm right here.

I'm like, dick to dick out. We're in the pool. I'm sitting right next to him like here. I said, hey, sorry, man. The other lanes are busy. I'm also not in your way. And he just ignores me. And carries on swimming.

I'm like, he's fine. Fuck, man. No, I'm so annoying. Manu was, anytime the guy stopped, Mano would tell him like, hey, man, you're kind of slow. In the fast lane. Are you sure he should be in the fast lane?

And he gets so, he rage baited every time. He gets so angry every time man who told him that. That is a toxic lobby IRA. Yeah, legit. Like, get good scrub. He's very obvious to lifeguard. had dealt with this dude's shit before because the moment he like, suma sent him,

he was like, I don't want to talk to you. He was like, don't fucking. With this shit again. Because the lifeguards there are so fucking nice and all of them like speak fluent English for some reason. I don't know why. One of them was like, yeah, you used to work for BA. I was like,

there's quite a big new job school. Yeah. But yeah, they're all really nice. And then this guy, they hate him. There's a lot of odd people. I guess that's what happens when you go to like public spaces and you share of people, you just have to, some people are just really odd.

But then you got me, other people, they're really nice. I met this one woman there, and she was really fast. And she didn't mind that I was, like, slower than her. She didn't flare out. And she was like, oh, what are you guys doing? I was like, swing. Just hanging out, yeah. She's like, are you training for something?

I was like, yeah, I'm thinking of maybe doing like a triathlon or something. And I was like, what are you doing? She's like, I just love swimming. The way she said it was like so, like deep. I was like, oh, cool. She's like, yeah, I'm going to Hawaii. next week. I was like, okay. She's like, to swim.

I'm swimming there. And I believed her. Like, I believed that she's only going to swim. I don't think she's going to do anything else. I think she's literally going there to swim. Because there was no, like, I'm going on vacation. Yeah. She mentioned, I love swimming.

I'm going there to swim. I have one goal in mind. She might have even slam there. I don't know. She is swimming between the islands. You know what I asked you? I was like, what do you do for what? because she was from Osaka, so she was super chatty.

And every single lap, like, she was gaping me. And I was like, and then she would just start chatting immediately. And I was like, I'm dying to keep up with you. And she's like, I was like, what do you do for work? She's like, I'm a swim teacher. I was like, holy fuck. I've made a real life fish. This is what fish would look like if they were human.

You take her out of any body of water. She just has a mental breakdown. He's like, where's the water? I need to swim. Is she was so cool? I've never seen her ever again. So clearly she's just like trying every pool. Maybe like, you know, I vibe with that.

You know, she clearly loves what she does. Yeah. Respect. Clearly has revolved her entire life around this one thing. Yeah. I loves it. She's living the greatest life. I felt,

I felt such a peace when I spoke with her. I could tell that she literally only wanted to swim. There was literally nothing else that even appealed to her. It was fascinating. And then I was like, The whole time I was talking about, like, what sandwich I was going to eat after this. Because I was dying after doing all the swimming. What are you going to eat?

The pool water. Actually, it's been really fun because it's such a funny environment. And it's been really unusual going to like a public pool and interacting with people more. It's been really interesting. Is it an indoor or indoor pool? Yeah, it's indoor. It's indoor. Yeah.

I think most pools are indoor. That's true. You know, one thing I will say, Japanese pools are really warm. Like, for a pool where you're trying to like swim a lot, it's kind of a lot. It's kind of a lot warmer than I thought it would be. Well, yeah, it's because so many Japanese people are older. And so they're more susceptible to the cold and stuff like that. In Japan, it's just a few degrees warmer, especially like the winter.

They always crank up the heat. Oh my God, it's 28. Just a few degrees warmer than what it's comfortable somehow. Yeah, I don't fucking get it. I went to a mall the other day and they were cranking the fuck out of this heat. And I'm like, dog, it's 25 outside. It's May. It's May.

You do not have to crank the heat. It is, I'm in a t-shirt. It's plenty of warm enough outside. Yeah, I don't know how some of the taxi drivers do it. You go in and it's like a fucking oven. Oh my God. You can roast a chicken in there. It's like, you're a reptile, bro. Yeah. It's like, there's no way. I got on the taxi yesterday. And the door, you know, the sliding door, it like fell off. I didn't touch it yet. I was like, I didn't touch that. That was not me. I don't know when you saying that was me. It like fell off. And then he came out

and I thought, oh, fuck, this is bad. But it's so obvious that this happens every time because he got out, looked at it and like sort of fucking slamming it and like shoved it into place. It was like, dozo. He's like, what's the fuck? He definitely hit the car with something

and it fucked up the rail or whatever. But he was normal. He was used to it. And I was like, I'm not paying for that. Happens all the time. Fucking old. Speaking of a man, I did also catch up to One Piece recently after three years. Damn.

Now caught up to the One Piece manga. Oh yeah, how's that? Yeah. Is it a peak? When are you guys are behind now? You know, you guys... I've been behind. I'm ahead of him, but not my march.

Some people would call you a Lappas. Tourist. In this 10 age. Oh, you're a One Piece man? You're not even caught up. Tourist. I'm a Wampi story. I don't own a PSA-graded fucking manga.

I'm a fake fan. I love Luffy D. Monkey. He's my favorite character. Oh my goal. No, actually, it was because of that whole debacle when I was like, I should catch up. You can't be a tourist. Yeah, you can't be a tourist anymore.

I don't know, it's so weird in this day and age because obviously, you know, anyone who watches trash taste would know. that we've been watching anime for quite a lot. Yeah. But nowadays, I don't know, it feels like, in a modern day and age, if you have to be like a fan of one thing, especially if it's like a mega, if it's like a mega IP, like One Piece or J.JK or something, you're like, you need to be in, in, you know. If you're not a mega fan, you're not a fan. Yeah, you're a tourist.

100%. And in that case, I'm, I am 100% a One Piece tourist because I've read all of One Piece. I like One Piece and I thought I was a One Piece fan. But man, seeing some of like the modern fan base, I was like, holy shit, you know, I'm, I would call myself more of a casual fan. There are some people that know, like, that can recite every single detail of like the lore and stuff like that. I'm like, brother, I can't remember what happened like four arcs ago. You're gonna, you're gonna need to remind me. It's been, it's been four years since I caught up to one piece. Yeah.

Like, I've forgotten more rungas than you've read. Yeah, yeah, sure. I just personally like to be to just enjoy a lot of series on different types of media as opposed to go all in on one. I mean, I did that with Jojo for a while and that was... Yeah. I've enjoyed it, but I'm...

I still haven't read 9. 9. No. Fake fan. Fake fan. Fake fan, tourist. I'm caught up to that. Do you see the fucking Jojo meme, the ones made a... No? Which one? The fucking get in the car one? I don't think so. Have you just seen this?

An actual new Jojo meme. Oh my God. We're so back. We're so back. Holy shit. This has been literally blowing the fuck up. This is everywhere. What the fuck?

Click the fucking, I don't know. Get in the car. Yeah. Get in the car. Because the whole meme is like, what the fuck is this clip that we all just glazed over when we're watching the show? Can you go?

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I completely do not remember this scene. You know, and everyone like, and people are like, I bet it's because the English is so goofy. No, the Japanese is literally one for one. He's saying the same thing. Yeah. Yeah. Like, it's just that goofy and weird. Like, the scene is just so dumb. I don't remember that at all.

What part is that from? Because it's from fucking, uh, part, uh, part five? No. Part three. Yeah. I mean, that just looks like a normal Jojo. Something, if I'm being,

but it's fucking blowing up because it's fucking, it's ridiculous to someone hasn't watched Jojo. But to me, I'm like, this is the most normal thing. Yeah, totally. I was like, that's, out of all the Jojo memes to get, you blow up, that's probably one of the most normal. I think it doesn't help that the, the, uh, that clip in English does sound a bit goofy in English.

Yeah. But in Japanese, I think it doesn't sound goofy people because they don't speak Japanese. Yeah. It's just as goofy Japanese. Yeah. I mean, what's wrong with that? That's the new Jojo meme. He thought it was a card turned out to be a fence.

Damn. We had like one, we've got one new meme. And actually, you do you count like the fucking, the Netflix part seven memes. as like a meme? Well, I guess. I mean, that came out of just absolutely suffering. That's a tragedy coaxed as a meme. You know what I mean?

We memed to cope with that one. But it's not a meme by definition. I mean, memes, I'm not sure what the entire definition of a meme is. It's just like an idea that gets spread around, right? I guess so. I mean, it used to just be funny stuff, and now it's just like, modern memes have just been like coping mechanisms. Like half coping mechanisms and half just,

just actual funny stuff. 100%. So you caught up to one piece. Was there anything you wanted to talk about it? Yeah, I mean, I'm trying to think about what I can talk about without spawning you. Well, you've got to prove you not a tourist. Yeah, I got to prove you not a tourist. I mean, look, if it's any consolidation, I've been fucking spoiled to shit already.

Oh, really? I don't think you have, Joe. Unwillingly. I don't think you have. I mean, not with this, like, recent arc, but... Yeah. It's a good thing because I don't know any of the new characters. It's like, I just don't really understand what I've been spoiled.

because I'm like, I don't know what happened. I'm in such a shit position because I've gotten up to the point in One Piece where all the recurring characters come back. Yeah. So it's like, for me, it is all spoiled. Yeah, you, I think, Joey, you stopped One piece right before, number one, all the recurring characters come back.

And number two, the huge focus on One Piece recently, and I say recently, I mean like the past five years, I guess. Recently is there has been a big focus on just the big, big reveals of like the world law. Yeah. And stuff like that. Because when you're watching One Piece, you can't maybe... You see them setting it up constantly.

Yeah. You see them setting up, you know, certain islands had different like weapons. And there's like the void century as well. And, you know, all of these different artifacts that have been spread out across the world. And it feels like every single arc now, um, there is just going to be like a... Big reveal. 10, 15 chapter stint where it's just like it completely flips. what you know about the One Piece world on its heads.

I know for a fact that like, I don't know if it's the recent arc or the one before it or something, but like it turned out that like Sky Island, which was everyone's least favorite arc, just became the most important arc. Yeah, I mean, it's, in terms of like the story. I mean, it's hard to say what is the most important art

because it just like... But it became more important than previously. Yeah, yeah, because law-wise, everything is like being connected. Yeah. To the point where it's just like, you see this one symbol, 1,000 chapters ago and it's like, oh, that's, that's, that's the symbol. That's the, it's back.

That's crazy. Coming back. Is it, is it true that the recent arc is called the final arc? Saga. Is it the final saga? It's not a final arc. Right. But it has final in the title. Are you using the word final? Really? I think so. I think, can we, can we, can we prove? That's what, okay. That's what I saw. Who gets to name the arch? Uh, One Piece fans. Yeah, I think it's the One Piece.

Probably. Yeah. Yeah. Is it the final saga called the Final Saga because it's the final one? Yeah, see, after Attack on Time, I don't believe in the word final anymore. Yeah. If it's the final saga, but there's going to be numerous songs. Yeah, I mean, that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, that's like naming. That was three years ago. It could be like, it could be like 40 more years. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I mean, Final Saga could be at the pace of One Piece chapter release. This could be another like decade, five years. How old is Odo now? Probably in his late 50s, early 60s, I'd say.

Maybe older. I think it's, it is... 51. Wow, he's young. Yeah. Oh, I was gonna say, if he was like in Oklahoma, I'd be like, we better start wrapping this up. Japan? Nah, you good, bro. You're another 40 in you.

Damn, that's crazy. That means he started one piece when he was 21. Damn. Damn. But I imagine there must be... Also, it was born January 1st. That's crazy. Holy shit. He was 22 when he started One Piece. Based.

I mean, I, obviously, it's a huge project to him, so it's cool. I'm, I'm, it's rare to see a project of this magnitude be given such time. Do you think you're going to catch up by the time One Piece ends? Because I'm, it is going to be like one of the defining cultural moments, not even in anime and manga. So, I think culture in general.

I think culture in general. I honestly think One piece is getting that. I think so. The thing is, I have all of the volumes at home. Like, I'm consistently buying the new volumes, just waiting for like the two-week stint where I do absolutely nothing, but catch up the one piece. Yeah, I think if I knew that the end was like,

actually, like, within a year, I think that would be the kick in my ass to actually sit down a little. Because I swear to God, I've become a true tourist. Yeah. I wake up, I wake up, even before the whole, like, Logan Paul Debacle, I wake up, and I swear, you, you, log on and like some random motherfucker has just started One Piece for the first time.

And they've got like nothing. They've never watched a single anime in their lives. And suddenly they're like, guys, I feel like I'm watching. I feel like I'm gonna start One Piece. And I'm like, I've been there, bro. You're not. You're just saying that.

Yeah, because the new, the new One Piece series just got announced to come out, 2027, I believe. The One Piece? Yeah. Studio Wits. Witt.

Witt. And it is like the A team. It is like the Attack on Titan team that is working on this new One Piece remake. Apparently Tanaka Maimi is not going to voice one Luffy. I don't know. I mean, how many years has she got left? She's legitimately like, please find someone else. I think it's a wise choice to kind of start passing batons here with stuff like that.

Yeah. Because you don't want a situation where people are like, let's use AI to keep the voice. You're like, let's not do that. Yeah. It's the One Piece. the one piece the one piece yeah I think it

I think it finally had a release date now I think it's coming out 2027 yeah I think it's next year sometime yeah you know in like 80 years you know like when your parents

talk about a piece of media you're like no this was the shit back in the day yeah that'll be that'll be us with one piece that's gonna be us when one piece ends yeah it's just you know you had you had to be

you had to be you know everyone was wondering what is the one piece going to be you know, and we still got like a good half a decade, I think, at least. But it is genuinely getting to that point now where I'm like, how much we've kind of almost reached the power ceiling of like, you know. I think when that last chapter drops, it's going to be an insane day across the world. Yeah, the world isn't going to stop to read it.

Crazy. Yeah. Because I think it's like most countries in the world have a pretty big fan base of one piece. Yeah, yeah. I can't think of many countries that don't. Maybe, I don't think China, is it particularly big in China? I don't know. Right?

Probably. Yeah, I mean, since it became like the top selling comic or something like that. Everyone's gonna be a One Piece fan when it ends though. I'll tell you that. That's what I can tell you what happened. Everyone's suddenly gonna be a One Piece fan. Everyone is going to be a One Piece fan. I'll be like, I love LovieD Monkey, bro.

And now, and we're gonna have to like look even harder to be like, when did you start watching One Piece? You know, name every character. It's like, tell me about your One Piece history. Yeah. Oh, you started watching him within past three years, five years? Fake fan. It's going to be like the fucking Inglorious Bastards, like, interrogation scene.

Oh, you like One Piece. Yes. Interesting. I started reading of three years ago. Interesting. Opening 10 would be which title? Oh, dude. But yeah, I mean, yeah, highly.

recommend it catching up because it is, yeah, honestly, it is an exciting time just to be a one-piece fan because before I would, I would be used to catching up every like three years or something. And now it just seems like every new chapter there is like one big development, one big, one big drop that changes how you understand the world and the law and stuff like that. But my God, some of these chapters, some of these chapters are getting really, really dense. Yeah, I've seen some screenshots of some of the recent chapters. They're basically novels. Oh, like the Hunter Hunter Hunter?

Like the Hunter Hunter Hunter. It's just like, it's so much fucking text on the screen. Is it like the Hunter Hunter on the screen? I wouldn't say it's like the Hunter Untone. It's so much text. But I remember because I was reading some of the early chapters and reading some of the latest chapters. And I think it's because of the anime pacing or maybe it's just

Oda wanting to finally fucking get through this. But there are some panels where I swear to fucking Christ, you need a magnifying glass. Like, just like see every little thing that's going on. Because like every little character is doing something different. Yeah. And the chapters now are just so incredibly dense where there are some chapters where

there are some chapters or some series that I swear to God you read in like a minute. One piece you just you get you sit down, you get out the magnifying glass and you're like, okay. Take down notes. Take down notes every little thing, you know. Remember back in the day when we had chapter reviewers and I'm like, oh these motherfucking chapter reviews having enough to talk about every single. It's like three hours.

Yeah. Yeah. And now it's just like, oh, one chapter drops and you're like, oh, this is like two video, two, three videos worth of content. Yeah. To talk about here. It's kind of like, I think the most impressive thing about One Piece is kind of watching a human being literally dedicate his whole life towards one work.

Yeah. Like it's kind of impressive and I don't think it's something we get to see often. Yeah. And it's, I don't know, it's just fucking. And the fact that it hasn't fallen off in any way, if anything, it's just like the ceiling is just getting higher and higher and higher. I feel like one piece is more popular than it's ever been, at least in like Western circles.

I mean, it's, yeah, it continues to rise and rise in popularity. Yeah, totally. Real question is though, Jerry, are you going to start grading your manga? Your manga collection, there you go right there. Yeah, I just said a couple over to Beckett, you know, hoping to get those PSA 10s, fingers crossed, you know. Yeah, this whole grading manga feels so forced. It's such a scammer.

Yeah, it feels just like someone wants. someone is sick of trying to pay millions of... No, they're like sick of... And tired of paying millions of dollars Pokemon cards. Yeah. And they're like, what can we... What kind of scam can I run next? Yeah. I just... It makes me so angry.

Ridiculous. Having like a first edition copy of Dune and being like, oh, did you get that shit graded? Dude, that's just rare, bro. You gotta get the shit graded. It's like, I bought it at a fucking book off for 110 yen. Like, I don't care. I bought it to read it, not to fucking sell it. After using, like, getting a card graded with PSA once,

It was one of the most miserable experiences of my life and expensive. I was like, this shit needs to die. Yeah, 100%. This grading needs to be gone. The grading costs more than the actual kind of value of the card itself. Okay, so I'm sure most of you are like me. And like, you have seen graded cards. You understand the concept, but you've never done it because it's a bit, it's a bit of an

effort. And most people don't get expensive cards. So I got the one piece LA Dodgers card. You know, whenever you're growing up, you always hear about these weird collab cards, always didn't be going for crazy amounts. I thought, okay, that's a cool card. I feel like this card actually might be worth a lot in future, so I'll grade it. And also it's cool because it's a little better to display it.

So I thought, when, when? And that's about where the funds stopped with getting it graded. I sent it off, and they're giving me like this crazy list of things I had to do to get it graded, like the way I had to package it. And already I was like, this seems weird. I've packaged it pretty well already. I don't understand why I have to do some weird. like proprietary way of packing it.

So I had to undo all the packaging, did it the way they want it, sent it in. But when I send it in, they asked you for a valuation of like what you think it's worth, which I'm like, okay. Shouldn't you be telling me? Yeah, that's why I'm fucking sending it to you.

So I put like 200 bucks, which is what it was going for on eBay at the time. Yeah. It was going for about 200 bucks. I was like, okay, so 200 bucks. And then they said, okay, if it's 200 bucks, it'll cost 8,000 yen. for one card.

8,000 yen is about 40 pounds, about 60 dollars. I was like, fucking hell, that seems really expensive to have a guy look at a card. Yeah. And I know there's like magnifying glasses and there's loads of more tech to it and they scatter. You know, I know there's a bit more to it than that.

But I did think that was quite pricey for what they're doing. And then after that, I got an email saying, oh, I didn't package it the way they asked. I was like, I'm pretty sure I didn't fucking package it. They're like, well, great at this time, but don't do it ever again. I was like, okay.

And then I got another email the next day, and they were like, okay, we've graded it. All good. Problem is, is that it's worth more than you said it was. And I was like, what? So I googled it, and it had gone up in price, like, 200 bucks in the two weeks that I sent it to them. And so they charged me. They up me to like 120 each money, like, $12,000 in that time period, because it's gone up in value. And I'm like, this is a scam, bro.

I'm sorry. I sent it off. you at this time. I have the fucking packaging receipt. Why are you allowed to do that? Yeah. That's that's stupid as shit. And so I was like 120, like $100 to get a card created feels criminal. Yeah. And then they sent it back to me and cool, I get it and I got a 10, you pee. But like, if I hadn't got a 10, I'd be like, dude, what the fuck? I'd be pissed off. It's an eight. Yeah, it'd be like a waste of time. Right. But I don't know. It's just like the whole experience was kind of like miserable and it was only to, I guess, increase value.

and make it more scarce, I guess, in a way. I don't know, it felt, it felt odd. I didn't really enjoy the experience at all, and it felt bad, and it felt overpriced and awful. And I know PSA is the worst defender out of all of them. Yeah. I mean, they're all terrible. Yeah.

Yeah, I just, now that, you know, now that this trend is like trying to be started, I guess in the manga, in the manga world, it's just, I don't know, it's just weird to me. If you're a collector, right, and you just want it, you just love the stuff. I can understand, like, wanting to have, wanting to have, I have a way to display it, you know?

But just fucking having this arbitrary number next to it to be like, this is, this is a pristine condition one, grade 10. I don't even know what grade 10 is. You're going with the opinion of some bum fuck who just like, is just like, oh, yeah, the centering is good. Corners are good. I'm like, what authority are you? There's a lot of YouTube videos as well

where people have like sent them in multiple times and the grade changes. Yeah, exactly. It's all arbitrary. The only thing I like is that like if you want to display them, oftentimes the case they give you is good for displaying. That's what I like as well. Because there's a lot of things that I own that I would be like,

I don't have a thing to display this in, but it would be cool. Yeah, yeah. Lodwig had like a bunch of Nintendo 64 games and original GameCube and game boy games that were graded. And I remember thinking like, oh, the box for it is like really nice. Like you get like a perfectly fit plastic box. for it. And I was like, could I just pay for that? I don't really care about the grading. I just get the cool display box that like

perfectly wraps it. So I don't have to worry about where I put it. Yeah. Because if something is in good condition, I'm like, I have eyes. I can see. You know, if I assume if it's a grade 10, it'll be of a quality. And like, maybe maybe this is my ignorance, but the, I assume the difference between a grade 10 and the grade 9 by my amateur eyes. I'm just like, yeah, Yeah, they both look good enough for me. Yeah, you need a look under a microscope. Yeah. It's like super minor defect.

Yeah. Like very small. But then sometimes it might not even be your fault. It might be a printing issue, you know, whatever. There's a lot of reasons. And it's also insane to me that, you know, you think about this, you know, grading system and how, you know, the prices of these Shonen Jump manga have just jumped up recently in the past few, past few, past month or so.

Yeah. And I'm like, man, Japanese people were doing this. for like the past decades, man. Yeah, I remember just going to like some Japanese like, I know what they call it here, like flea, flea markets or whatever. And there are just

people who are just obsessively collecting the most random ass things sometimes. And it's just like in perfect condition. Like I think I talked about how you know, I was walking a flea market and there was this guy who was collecting I forgot what the name of the magazine was, but like this really, really old magazine.

And it, it's, uh, He had some magazines in like pristine condition. Is it a life magazine? Sorry? Life magazine. Life magazine, that was it. In like Life magazine all the way back from like the 1940s. Damn. And like perfect condition.

No grading. No cases, just one hard briefcase. And I don't know, he was just doing it for love the game, I guess. I was like, God damn. Yeah, he's collecting it because he just likes the things he collects, not because he wants to make a fucking profit off. Yeah. Yeah, I think everyone pretty much unanimously hates these scalpers and card collectors that only do it for money. Yeah.

Yeah. I remember one time on a streaming and I said, like, I wish they would just fucking print way more. So the value goes down. Yeah. So people can actually play with these cards. But that's what I don't understand about, like, grading manga. It's like, it's so mass produced. There's a lot.

It's so much of it. Like, you go to any bookstore anywhere in Japan and you're bound to find volume one of One Piece fucking everywhere. And it's like, oh, because you took care of it a little better than the average book off, it's like, oh, suddenly it's worth $500,000. It's like, fuck off. Shut up. Like, seriously, it's so, it's so cringe. Yeah.

I'm always shocked in Japan at how good quality all the secondhand stuff is. Yeah, yeah. It's, like, who the fuck kept the GameCube boxes? Yeah, right. Like, they're little, like, thin-ass paper, cardboard. Yeah. And they always have them the boxes. And, like, that's crazy.

Yeah, I ripped that shit. I remember that was like the default. Nobody even remotely thought to keep the boxes for games, right? We would just throw them away unless it was like the PlayStation 1. Maybe that's why they're worth money now. That's why they're worth money, right? But then you'll see like boxes of like Mother 3 and N-ES. Oh, S-N.

It's like, no. It's like 900, like 900 yen. All of them. In box. You're like, that's crazy this thing. Mother 3? Yeah. No.

Mother 3 goes for like, goes for like 3, 400 bucks. The Japanese version? Well, there's only ever been a Japanese version for Mother 3. I saw one for like 900 yen. Really? Give me that shit. I think it, maybe it wasn't the Game Boy version. That was definitely, it was like, S&A.

Well, no, Mother 3 is a Game Boy Advance game. Oh, shit, maybe I, yeah. And they're like notoriously expensive. Maybe that was Mother 1 plus 2. Oh, yeah, it might have been that. Yeah. But yeah, either way, like, I get it with like some of these games where it's like, you know, say for example, if it's like Mother 3 where it's like a Japan exclusive or like, you know,

they released it. only for like a certain period of time or something, you know, there's some kind of exclusivity when it came to the sale of it. I understand that, regardless of the quality, it being expensive. But I just don't understand where it's like, oh yeah, because it's a cleaner box, it's worth three, four X of the original price. It's like, yeah, but the game is still the fucking same. It's like, what's the difference? You know, I don't care about the box. I just want to play the game. What's the rarest thing you guys own? What's, what's going to be your family heirloom? Rarest in terms of like value or rarest in terms of, like, value? Or rarest in terms of,

of like just lack of things. I don't have anything rare. Things. Oh, all the Jojo stuff you got. I got some cool Jojo figures, but, you know,

figures are so tough because they're not often, like, well documented. They also go up and down and price all the time, depending on the relevancy of the series. Because, like,

I see figures, and they're like, you know, I've got like this one or two Jojo ones that I've not seen listed anywhere online, like ever. Yeah. Like,

I've got the Osen, the ocean figure. It's like a fake Lawson's from part four. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've literally never seen that figure listed anywhere. Yeah, it's fake. It could be fake. It's an Etsy purchase.

It's got like a little thing inside, like an Ichboncucci. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But again, I don't know when it came out of. I have seen that figure. That's a really cool figure. It's awesome. Yeah. It's cool.

But like, yeah, I don't know. Because figures are kind of hard because there's a couple of websites to try to track value, but there's often they don't make enough. There's often only like 100, 150. So they don't really, the value is kind of weird with them. have more of what you're willing to pay as opposed to like a set value. Yeah, also it depends on your definition of, yeah, that one. Yeah, that's really cool.

It depends on your definition of values. Oh, right? Because like, you know, doing our line of work, we get to meet a lot of like, you know, manga authors and, you know, line novel authors, game developers and stuff. So, like, I've got a lot of, like, items that are, like, one of a kind, for example, that have, like, you know, like, I've got the fucking automaton with Soken's signature on it. Like, I don't think anyone else has that. Wow, that's expensive. That's a one of one. Yeah, damn, they are expensive.

412. That's a great condition box. Yeah, that is a great condition box. Is it though? It's not great it though, isn't it? PSA 6. I'm thinking, actually goes down in Valley. I've got the serial experiments lane PlayStation game, which is worth like a thousand bucks now. Which is insane because when I bought it, it was definitely not $1,000. That's cool. Yeah, it's really cool. Yeah. Yeah, that, yeah, it's a thousand bucks now. I bought that when I was maybe, when I bought it was like two, three hundred dollars,

which I thought was gig or expensive. And then all of a sudden now, it's worth so much money for no reason. How often is this being bought, though? I'm just, I always think sometimes I'm just like, where are these numbers coming from, you know? That's what I've done. I think it's a bunched a couple of like really high-end collectors that are trying to build a collection.

It might also be like eBay auctions that are like pushing the price up, you know, trying to outbid the other person. I think, uh, I really want to get a copy of Symphony of the Night, PS1, English, but I think that's also like a grand. I think maybe you can Google that guy. Symphony of the Night English. Games that are like rare and also just have

such a dedicated fan base, like Symphony of the Night, for instance, tend to go up in price. Yeah, I think the price of it is kind of crazy. Yeah, 100 bucks. Is it actually 100 bucks? That seems pretty cheap. Oh, that's not too bad. That's really reasonable.

Yeah. Oh, there we go. Oh, it's gone for about 600. Sheesh. That's the PAL version. Or the limited edition is a grand, bro. Holy shit. What's the limited edition?

The fuck is a mid-price. What the fuck? What's the limited edition? Fuck, I know. No idea. No idea. It just looks like a copy of sympathy of the night to me.

That would be cool to own, though. Yeah, I would like to earn it. But I'm not dropping a grand. No. I mean, it's a grand for something that's going to sit on a shelf. I'll buy it for a grand. I'll grade it. Yeah, the experiment's lane is crazy.

Yeah, that one went up in price so much. I remember, like, Nintendo GameCube games she just never went down when I bought them. I bought so many. Oh, dude, like a copy of Pokemon Emerald now in box is like $3,400 bucks. It's insane. And I'm like, I bought that shit when it came out

for like $50 bucks at the time. God, damn. It's just, I don't understand what causes this metric of a game being more pricier than not. Just demand, really? Like if people start looking to buy it, it goes up. Yeah. But I feel half the time it's just so inflated as well.

Well, I feel like sometimes when you're connecting on such a niche thing, you know, that only you can appreciate it. I mean, how many people out there would appreciate serial experiments lane PS1? Only serial experiments lane fans. Right? Yeah. That's pretty rare in this day and age, especially rare enough to experience to, you know, won something like that. I mean, it's barely a fucking game. It's like a light novel.

It's about the history, you know? Yeah, it's true. It is about the history of it. I just appreciate people keep the, like, ROMs online of these games, because they're so often just gone. Yeah. Or delisted or whatever.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. And especially just owning something physical, you know, it's obviously that's coming back with everything that's happening in the world. Yeah, man. It feels like vinyl's a very, very popular.

now. People love vinals. Dude, like, among Gen Z now, it's become, like, a trend to buy vinyl, which is funny. Performative. Yeah, it is. No, it is because I saw an article where apparently, like, out of all of, I think it's something like among Gen Z kids who collect vials, I think it's like 70% of them or something don't even own a vinyl player. That was me for like a year.

Yeah, so they just collect them because, which I completely understand. I don't fault people for it because, like, vinyl players, A, take up a lot of space. and B, it's like, can be quite expensive, especially the nicer ones. And also, like, vinals are just, like, basically just really nice poster. Like, a lot of people just, like, put them up on the wall because it just looks cool, you know? So I completely get it. But I did find it really interesting that, like, now that has also gone into things like physical game hardware and, like, CDs and cassettes are coming back, which is just really fucking weird. VHS as well.

Yeah. I'm kind of at the age where I was like, I feel like, I feel like every collector has the same kind of like mentality. They're looking to build their perfect man cave. That's what I'm doing. Right? I bought two CRTs and I'm like, it is done. This is all I need. Like, did you have any like uncles or family members that collected like weird shit?

I remember my one of my uncles, he collected vintage toy cars, like vintage, like, car models, right? I didn't get it as a kid, but like, now getting to that age, I'm just like, I'm just like collecting something. I don't know why. Yeah, my dad has a massive comic book collection, like, in his office. He's got like buckets of, I don't know how many. I say easily like two, three thousand comics that he is just like collected. But he collected those because a lot of those comics he grew up with. So it was like kind of his way to like keep it in his position, but also to like every now and then flip through it and like, you know, relive his childhood, which is, you know, what I think a lot of us do when we collect like old games or like vhs or

CDs or whatever it might be. At least that's what I'd like to do. You were mentioning CRT. I remember watching a YouTube video a very long time ago. But this guy who was trying to find like the Moby Dick of CRTs. There's like, there's like 10 of them. And they were like the ultra giant CRTs that were only made in Japan. Oh. You've seen this video. It's crazy. I mean, Kai is like super into CRTs. Right. There's this insanely massive CRT. Maybe you can show a tie.

How big are we talking? Dude, ridiculous. The weight of it was like, I think, half a ton. Holy shit. But, yeah, 30 inch. 30 inch CRT? Yeah, so this was... Wait, I think it's...

Isn't it bigger? I swear, like, it's the biggest one you can buy. Right. And I think it's like 40 even. 40? 40? It's, uh... 45 inch, the PVM.

400. They're the Sony. Yeah, yeah. Oh, it's a Trinitron. Nice. Yeah, this is the one. And then this guy made a YouTube video about like, look at that thing.

Binding it because I guess like it's, it was speculated if there were even any in existence anymore. Right. Because they were like, nobody bought this at the time because it was so fucking expensive. Yeah. Look at that. I think this, I think it is this one or something like this. And this guy basically tracked it down in a like a random fucking restaurant in Osaka.

and sent a guy, he lives in America, he sent a guy to, like, go in and, like, barter with him. Yeah. And the guy was like, oh, yeah, I was thinking of getting rid of it anyway. So if you guys were wanting to take it off my hands are free, he's like, free? This shit's worth, like, fucking $100,000.

Yeah. How much, how much? Yeah, go. Not that I'm contemplating to buy it or anything, but like, like, apparently to move it, they needed, like, a full on, like, construction company. Yeah. Oh, $40,000.

$20,000. Damn. Yeah. Only fuck. 200 kilograms. God. Sheesh. I think this is it.

200 kilograms. I think this is the one from the YouTube video. Have you seen the video? I mean, 200 kilograms is fucking huge. And he got it like sent over on a ship or something. And then I think half the video is him like trolling the CRT community. I guess there's a big community for it.

Yeah. And they were like, this is like the, again, like a Moby Dick. Like they don't think it exists. They don't know anyone who's got it. Yeah. And yeah, he's like just trolling them being like, guys, my first CRT, how do I set it up? And they're like, this is not yours. Fuck you.

That's so funny. But I mean, it is crazy, right? You're starting to go over a car at that point. Yeah, legit. Cost more than an average car. Well, I think if you were to get it nowadays, I think you probably would be paying a problem, I don't know, maybe around the same amount, to be honest. It's that rare. And if you want a game, you know, like on an actual CRT, I don't.

I mean, 40 inches even that big, right? I mean, for a CRT, that's ridiculous. But, I mean, you know, you want to enjoy your games. So you're on the biggest thing. You want to do split screen. I mean, look, if I win the lottery, there will be signs. I wonder if there's any, like, listings for the CRT. Like, is it anywhere that's selling it?

I doubt it. I doubt it, bro. Like, I imagine this is, if it's gone. Yeah. Yeah. Nah. It doesn't even show off. I mean, Trinitrons are kind of hard to come by just in general, like even the regular Trinitrons.

What is the Trinitron? What makes it so special? The Trinitrons, okay, I'm not like the biggest CRT expert or anything, but the Sony Trinitrons were like, I think they had like some of the best like color gradients and stuff like that. I have a Sony Trinotron that I got for really cheap from some random. I bought a, I forgot which model it was. I bought a Sony Trinitron for like Ichman off of Medi from some random woman in Al-Mori. It works absolutely perfectly and looks so nice. But the Trinitrons were like really sturdy and also the color grading was like one of the best

at the time as well. And like if you think of like your typical like CRT look, then it usually comes from a Trinotron. Right. Yeah, these are like the standards, the cream of the crop for CRTs. I'm really tempted to buy another one again. What's the biggest one you own?

Biggest one I own is probably a... maybe a 25 inch standard thing about that that's probably still like what like 40 kilograms 50 kilograms oh easily yeah

it's heavy as hell how big is the one you have now 45 25? About a 25 inch is the one this is the one yeah this is the guy who bought her from like a fucking place in Osaka like look at the size of this thing

oh my god but this case was like so good though you know yeah it looks so good hell yeah dude I'm so glad this kind of stuff Bro! There's like eight people carrying this thing. Sorry, sorry.

Audio listeners, basically this giant fucking CRT, there's an entire group of men. Look how small the GameCube looks next to it. And the GameCube looks like a thimble next to it. Oh my God. But you know the games where he looks so fucking good. Oh, dude. I'm not to play melee on this, man.

Oh my God. So nice, bro. Yeah, it's so cool that it's coming back, bro. I love that people are understanding the beauty of a CRT. My God, smash must be so sick on us. Oh, my God, dude. Hell yet.

God, this is my cocaine. The men want one thing and it's disgusting. The Sony PVM 4,000 inch. Men want one thing and it's beautiful. Oh, my God. Oh, lovely. Yeah.

Are you guys collect as much of one thing or anything? No, I'm not yet, but I really want to be. I'm trying to find out one thing. No, you should. What do you mean? What do you mean? No, I don't. You don't want to be a click.

No, you do. Because it brings so much joy into your life. Just like knowing that you're collecting this one thing that you truly like value and care about regardless of how much it costs. I think there was always like I felt this voracious need for more. And I felt like it was not a good thing. What do you? Like I always looked at my collection and thought like it's great. But I need more. Yeah, that's what keeps me going.

And I found myself like not. not like there were times when I used to collect mainly games I used to collect GameCube games for a very long time I kind of realized I was like the act of getting it brings me joy yeah but I don't play them as much as I would like to and they kind of just sit there and I feel like I'm just kind of like amassing stuff because the stuff momentarily makes me feel good and I feel like I shouldn't do that like that's not a good thing that I

because I'm beating like a dopamine hit. But no, like... But if it's something you're passionate about, like I would... For example, something like, let's say, Funko Pops. I was like, this is the most like force artificially produced fucking collector's item like brand of all time.

But if it's something, a thing, that you're like, I just like this thing. I agree with you. However, I think, because like you just said, you're like, I want to collect. Yeah. You're going into. trying to find something to collect.

And I think that's like, that's like a not a good way of approaching it. I agree. Because you're just looking for something to be a consumer of. Okay, here's the thing I'm jealous of, right? I just don't have anything I'm that passionate about. And I wish I did. I wish I did, you know.

Like, when I watch this video, the thing that makes me most envious of this man is not that he has a giant CRT, because that honestly quite looks like, I don't know where I'd put that. Yeah. Is that he has eight people that are willing to come around to check out the CRTV. Right. who are stoked about it. Right.

Like that's when I think collecting is awesome. Yeah. When you have like a ton of your friends that are like, oh shit, serial experiments laying on the PS1, can we play that shit? And you're like, yeah, all right. We'll fucking lay it. You know, like that's pretty sick. But like I think like just to collect just so I can look at it.

Yeah. And like some kind of Lex Luthor Tower Empire. Like I feel like it's not a good thing that I see it that way. Right. Or it's like, you know, when you see trainotakus, you're like, These guys like trains a lot. But then they're all hanging out to watch the train come by or they go to the train fucking modeling place to model the guy.

I'm like, that's what collecting should be. An aspect of community. It's something that brings you joy, sharing it with others. No, that's totally my kind of like collector hack that I use where it's like, for example, like, you know, I collect a lot of vinyl, for instance. I have a couple of friends who live here who are also massive vinyl collectors.

So it's really fun to like go out in search of like obscure, vinyl or like just ones that we're looking for together by going around to like different vinyl shops and stuff like that'd be like, oh, yo, you're going to buy that one? Oh, sick, dude. Like, I got this one and, you know, just like sharing your hobbies and sharing your collection. Like that is where it's so fun for me. Yeah. Yeah. I think, and, you know, on top of that, it's like this, you know, the Pokemon card thing is like the worst version of all the collecting aspects. It is. It is. Which is like, people who don't even know the fucking Pokemon. Yeah. Like, there's so many, like, funny

compilations of people opening the Pokemon cards, like naming all the Pokemon wrong. And they're like, it's a charm and it's like a Charzart. You know, like, this is embarrassing. You should know what a Charzard is if you, if you're trying to spend tens of thousands of dollars on this. Yeah. I mean, Logan recently did that. You see my clip. Oh my God. Yeah. Well, he was talking about his Elite 4 team and I'm like, you clearly have never played a Pokemon game. I'm like, motherfucker's bringing, what the fuck is bringing steelix to the Elite 4? That's when it becomes like a commodified, you know. Yeah.

That's when the fun gets sacked out of any collective. When people start commodifying it, when people start flipping it, and realizing this is an investment, this is a way that I can make money fast while exploiting the entire community that is actually passionate around it. That's when you've ruined it for everyone. Yeah, and then I guess you get the issue that it becomes is also then people who don't really care,

but maybe they're at the store and they see them, it becomes like a pseudo-lottery. Because now you're like, you know, I buy them. If I see them, I buy them. Yeah. I'm like, I never see them. Yeah, and I'm like, fuck it. Who knows?

I did, I did read an article recently that was really funny where some places in Japan that are selling Pokemon cards now. Yeah. No, then not only that, but they force you to take a Pokemon quiz. That's so funny. Like they give you a set, I think it's like a set of like 50 randomized questions, and they pick 10 of them. And if you don't answer all them correctly, they just don't sell to you.

Fair enough. And I'm like, that's kind of based, because then it actually weeds out the lappers from the actual fans who just want to collect it, right? Which is what? collecting should be all about. No, my luck, I'd fuck it up. They'd be like, who is Ash? I'm like, bah.

What? Well, I think what it comes down to is, in some way, sense of form, it's kind of like a sense of community. Yeah. That's, that's, well, fandoms have always been. You know, it's feeling like you are, belong somewhere. And, like, it doesn't matter how much money you spend. It doesn't matter how much time you spend on it.

If it makes you happy and it connects you with the people who are like-minded and who are in it just for the love like you are, then it's all worth it at the end, you know? Yeah, because even just going around my, like, uncle's house, I didn't get fucking give a shit about cars. I have another uncle that also collects stamps. I got a lot of uncles that collect shit. But just like, damn, just go into like their office and, you know, you see like the fucking trays of like stamps and shit. I'm like, huh? That'll be you one day. Huh? That'll be you one day. Yeah, you just going to find that one thing. You want to collect something. Yeah, yeah. It's apparently my bloodline, you know, where I'm just like, as a kid, I was just like, I don't care about

this but Unks really happy about it and I'm happy that he's happy about it you know and that's what it should be about you know so I just I got to find that one thing you do you don't have to find yeah yeah gonna collect calories everything everything in my vicinity everything I'm passionate about now is things that I you know eat that it's a degradable don't not far off not far off Oh my God. Yeah, I don't know, but I haven't collected anything in a very long time.

Yeah, you stop your Jojo phase. Yeah, because I realized I was just getting too much stuff. Like, I had a lot of stuff. And I was like, I don't like having all this stuff. You start optimizing the fun out of your life, Con. That's what you did. No, I think, I think I was associating, like,

buying things with feeling good. And I realized I was like, I don't know if I like that. That is a dangerous. It's a slippery slope. It is a slippery slope. Like if you could just browse the internet to just buy something just because you're like, fuck it. Just want to buy something.

I haven't done this in a very, very long time. But I remember I used to like just look. And I was like, maybe there's something I find interesting or like. Did you try to make it competitive? Like, it feels like you almost took the act of collecting to be like. It goes on to eBay and he's like it's PVP, baby. I think I definitely, like, when I was collecting games, I did spend, like, an actual ridiculous amount of time scouring listings.

Like, trying to find the, like, thing for, like, $5 less. And that certainly, like, ruined a lot of the fun for me. That sounds like an addiction then, yeah. Yeah, but then I, like, I remember I used to be on this, like, this money-saving forum in the UK. I was absolutely obsessed with, like, getting deals. Because occasionally, like, websites would, like, fuck up. Yeah.

And they would, like, accidentally list, like, you know, instead of like one bottle of Red Bull for a dollar, they actually give you like a whole crate for like one dollar. And there's a bunch of people that like all they would do is like try and find this. And I used to spend so much time scouring this thing. I think you used to be called like Hot Deals UK or something. I think that's what it was. And people were so active and dedicated.

Like, and when I go now on those, some of these websites, I see like an aspect of me that was like frugal to the extent of ridiculousness. where like some people will go so far out of the way to feel like they won. Like it's not even about like, did they actually even get a great deal?

They probably did. But the amount of effort to go through something to get a deal is at like a level of effort that people would be like, dude, you have wasted so much of your time to get this thing. But then when you're in that mindset, it feels so right.

But like the only thing you can do is search for that deal. Like because why wouldn't it? Like, I'm saving so much money at the cost of everything else in my life. But I'm saving money. Yeah. And I remember one time, Papa John's like fucked up in the UK. Do you remember this?

Well, I think you've talked about this on the pod. Yeah, I told you about this on the pod. Like, I remember they fucked up. And I was like, guys, if you put this code in it, you just get free pizza. Oh, yeah, yeah. And every person I knew, I told. I was ordering like 50 pizzas. It was ordering like 30 pizzas.

It was insane. Everyone was getting it free. They weren't questioning it. That's so funny. So Papa Johns. Zero, me one. Thank you very much for the free pizza. There you go.

Sorry about John to scammed you. I had diarrhea for two months straight. I ordered like 20 pizzas. Well, was there any purchase in that time period where you were like, you felt good? Yeah, I'm sure in the moment, like, I felt really good, but like, I can't tell you now. Yeah. What was something I bought? Let me feel good.

I couldn't tell you anything that I bought them. Let me feel good. In like the grand scheme of things. Even as a kid? There must have been some. But you're so dumb when you're a kid. But that's when it's the purest. Why?

You're the dumbest, but you're also the happiest. Yeah. Because of your dumbness. Bro, I remember like every time I... Anytime we get a game console. It feels like you've like, I don't know, when you like... Like a whole life metamorphosis when you get... Oh, dude.

A new game console as a kid. All right, all right. And that's gone now. Okay. They don't even get that. Yeah. What is... Okay.

You have two times in your life where you were meant to celebrate per year, Christmas birthday. What are, what is the peak Christmas and the peak birthday that you remember to this day? Peak Christmas for me. Yes. I was five, I think. Yeah. Six.

I don't remember how old I was exactly. One of those years. I was in Japan, visiting my grandma, and I woke up on the futon. And above my head, there's like a present. I was just like, oh my God. Immediately. I'm still in the futon because it's cold as shit in the Japanese yonaka. In my futon, unwrapping.

it, Game Boy Advance. Fuck yes, man. That shit, bro. It's like I saw color for the first time. I was just like, oh my God, this is my life now for the next five years, at least. And dude, best Christmas ever. Yeah, I remember for me it was the N64 year for me. Where I was like, nothing has topped that Christmas for me where I wasn't even at home.

I was at my cousin's house. And I was like, Mom, we're not at home. How is Sartner Claus going to find us? when we're not at home and mom goes to me, don't worry. Santa will find a way. She knows where you're sleeping. And I was like, looking at the Christmas tree,

I was like, oh, Santa's a bit lost. There's no presents with my name on it. I wake up and it's like the fucking gigabox. And I was like, ain't no way Santa found it. And it was fucking, it was N64 of Golden Eye, man. Yo, core memory shit. Core memory shit. Yeah, I think when I got the Wii the first time.

Oh, shit. That's a top up there for me as well. It was also like the first time you have a game console where the whole family's like, let me have a go. Yes. Let me have a go. The first time you hear the Wii sports theme. I remember the first day I got it,

I was like, I can't wait to play it. And then the fuck, everyone in the family started playing. And it was like, well, Connie, you got to share. And I was like, share it. My gift. And everyone loved it. Everyone loved bowling, boxing. Hell yeah, dude. Everyone loved Wii sports.

We still do that shit every Christmas. Oh, man. It's the best. Yeah, I was kind of thinking about it the other day because my birthday, coming up. I mean, sitting here having this conversation. I was like, what's, what's the last birthday you actually remember? I was like, fuck. Fuck. What, what is the last, what is the last birthday you guys actively remember? What do you mean? Like, I remember, I think most of them,

but what do you mean like, remember is like a highlight or like a, I don't remember what I did for my last birthday. You, you remember what you did for your last birthday? Yeah, I got the same place every time. Optimization. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But do you remember the, you remember the, you remember, you remember you went to the same place, but do you remember what happened on your birthday? You know what I mean? Yeah, I think I remember. The moment is when you go to the same place every birthday, the members of the birthdays start to blur together. Especially in our age. That's like, yeah, let me think back to the past 20 times. Yeah, it's one of those birthdays. You know, these things go very quickly. These things go very quickly. And as you know, when you're

getting older, the years get very quick. Yeah, because I was thinking, I was trying to remember the last birthday, because I don't go to the same place, every birthday, I don't think. Yeah. He doesn't remember. I don't remember. I was like, what is the last birthday I remember? I think it was when I was like 15. Do you remember any of your birthdays in your 20s? Because I don't, I fucking don't. No. Christmas is always more of a gif. Yeah. Birthdays are more like a good for you kind of vibe. Yeah. I usually just get like stupid drunk. So I don't remember. I don't even remember it the following day. I think the last birthday I remember is going to be pretty depressing. I think it was my 18th birthday. That was the last birthday I remember. I actively like, I'm sure there are like

snippets of like, oh, okay, I'm, if you remind me, I actually remind me, I was like, you did this one that day. I was like, oh yeah, now I remember my birthday. I remember my 21st. What did you do when you're 21st? Just get really fucking drunk. How do you remember it then? How do you remember? Oh, just because it was probably the drunkest I'd ever been in my life. And it was also the one of the first times where I was really drunk with like all of my friends. but also like my dad. And like that's like a, that birthday is like a core memory with my dad. Yeah.

For the most part. Because I just remember, I was like, I've seen you drunk dad, but you are beyond bad now. Like you can barely walk straight. Yeah. And that's kind of dope that you're doing this with me, you know? Because like, you didn't have to. You could have just been the respectful adult among all these 21 year olds. Yeah.

But he's just like, fuck that. I'm joining the party. I'm getting more drunk than all of you motherfuckers combined. And he did. And it was awesome. Fuck, I do remember your last birthday. I remember your last birthday. I can't remember my last birthday.

What can I say? I have good birthday. I worked on my last birthday, bro. I think I... I was a TGS. Oh, yeah. I think... Yeah, I don't know.

Because I think it's been a while since I actually celebrated my birthday or my birthday. Yeah. You know, and it's normally been like... It's never hit a weekend. Yeah, maybe it's like a weekend thing or something.

Also, I had the unfortunate luck of having my birthday in May where basically that just meant when I was in school, I was probably studying on my birthday because I had exams. So my mom was always after school was finished. So I never really had birthdays at school. Did you have birthday parties at least? I don't think so. I don't remember.

My mom could probably tell you. The parents always remember. Yeah. I don't remember. of these things. I forgot a lot of things. Yeah. Yeah, there's a huge gap for me of like zero to 12. Yeah, McDonald's birthday parties and then there's a blank and then it's 18th and 21st and then there's the last couple of years. It's like it's just it's it comes in chunks. Yeah. That's normally how it goes. Uh, yeah, I don't I don't remember much. What are you

going to do for your birthday this year? Fuck, that's a plan anything. That's a good question. It's coming up, right? Yeah. I know a play. I know what you're doing. I know what you're doing for your birthday. I know a place that's great. Gone, have you heard of the McDonald's playpen? McDonald's birthdays? They do have them in Japan.

They have them in Japan. Did they never go away? No, there's... I think there's a lot. I know the McDonald's outside of Kichie-Jerjees have cycled by it as well. Yeah, I don't know. I might even hit up AFA Bangkok on my birthday. Oh shit.

I don't know. It's going on during my birthday. I haven't decided what I'm doing for my birthday yet. for my birthday, yeah. Spoken like a true YouTuber, working on his birthday. No, I honestly, I was like, generally just wanted to go

because I was like, I've never been to a Thailand anime convention yet. Yeah, that does sound fun. I don't know what the vibe is like. Southeast Asian conventions go hard. Yeah. Yeah.

The people there are so sick. It's been so long since I've just been to a convention just as a person. As a person. As a normal person. As an attendee. As a normal attendee, you know. And I'm like, yeah,

I want to, I wonder what, the Thailand anime scene is like, you know. I'll show it be dope. I've seen that works. Huh? I've seen that that works. Yes, you have. I think Thailand is degenerate as far.

Oh, yeah. I think that Dijan. That artist's alley going to be interesting. Yeah, I was very curious about the artist alley. Yeah. You know, what I know about Thai people is they like degenerate stuff. And they're like Isakai as well. Oh, you'll be right at home.

It's kind of right up my alley. You'll basically be like a lord. You're like, hello. I'll just be with my people. Yeah. Subjects. Hello, subjects. Say what have you gooned to?

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