Trash Taste Podcast - Goodbye Trash Taste Season 1 | Trash Taste #54
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Hello and welcome to another episode
of Trash Taste and this is,
this is I'd say a special one right?
Cause it's the last episode you're gonna see
in this studio.
Oh, Chris Think that as well.
Oh, I don't know, anyway.
We definitely didn't script that bit.
I'm your host for today, Garns and with me, Joey and Connor.
And yeah, boys, how are you doing?
You start to be moving out.
A little, a little sad.
Just a very busy time right now.
It is.
Because we got so much to do with the new studio,
it's like, all right, we gotta record one
before we start tearing the studio down.
Yeah, yeah, exactly right.
And we're probably gonna film like a short little vlog
for AfterDark as well, which will hopefully be out.
It'll probably be out before this thing.
Yeah, so go check it AfterDark.
Yeah, because, I mean, we are literally moving out tomorrow
after we film this today.
So by the time this comes out,
this will probably be like four, three, four weeks after.
It still hasn't sunken in that we're moving out tomorrow.
It hasn't sunk in for me either.
I'm just dreading having to redo everything
and set everything up.
And we have a setup that works here.
And everyone's like, why are you moving?
Why are you moving, you know?
But you gotta mix it up, you gotta keep you fresh.
Yeah.
Also, you'll see why we want to move if you watch
the after dark vlog because we have no fucking space in here.
I am glad that I don't have to like,
I dread whenever I'm the host,
because people don't know the fucking obstacle course,
you have to go around to get to this host share.
I feel literally bad for every guest that comes like
Yeah, we do have a,
like, perform park,
call to get to this scene.
We have a lot of tripping hazards.
And yeah, Lady Beer nearly tested the limits of our set
in multiple ways, not just the shelf behind you,
but all the wires and stuff.
That man was too large and in charge for those wires.
Yeah, I can't imagine how the guest feels
having to sit here and having like,
what if you need to go to the toilet, right?
Because the reason, okay,
the reason I hate going on flights
and sitting on the window seat is I hate not being able
to access the toilet under my own will.
Oh, I do it.
I know now my limits of my own.
own bladder. So now whenever I'm on a long flight, I'm like, aisle seat immediately. I don't
have to look at the view. I've seen, I know what the outside of a plane looks like. I know, I know what
sky looks like. I don't need to look at sky. I know what a city looks like from above.
I will sacrifice. All right, hold up. Okay, this is going to be our first topic for fun.
Listen, I, I am a firm window seat fan. Why? Why? Why? I tell you why. Because, right?
What's the biggest downside of being in the aisle, gentlemen? What is it? Come on, there's got to be a
Downside?
There is no, that you don't see the view.
There is one glaring, gigantic, annoying issue.
And that is motherfucking people in the window
and middle seat wanting to get out.
And God forbid, they're fucking clumsy as shit.
And they're like, oh, like fucking falling over everything.
And they've got like 10 shit that they got on their lap.
They got like the whole fucking family buffet and shit.
They got like 10 headphones, portable charger.
It's like, for fuck sake, put it in your fucking bag.
They're just trying to shimmy around.
Like, get that shit away from me.
I wanna go in the window,
because I wanna sleep and I don't wanna be disturbed.
I- But you're okay with disturbing.
Disturb, yeah, because that-
That just shows like the difference in mentality,
because I would rather, I'm fine with being disturbed.
I'm just like, go to the toilet, man.
I know you need it.
It's voice with that, I'm fine with being disturbed.
Listen, I don't, okay, I don't know if everyone else
sees it the same way as I do,
because I know that I get annoyed by minor things.
My house could burn down and I'd be like,
well, that's fucking, that's really inconvenient that, isn't it?
but someone moves in the aisle seat, for fuck sake.
No, because for me, there's like a counter.
Like, because I, I know how much I piss.
I mean, I'm glad that I don't need to worry
when I, how much I piss on trash taste,
because I piss a lot on trash taste, right?
But in the confines of an airplane, you are stuck there
and you ask to go to the toilet once, all right,
that's reasonable, right?
Everyone has, everyone knows, everyone needs to go to the toilet,
but twice, okay, that's, that's kind of pushing it, you know?
What if I need to go three times when everyone's sleeping?
What if, what if that just has,
So you're more worried about pissing them off.
Yeah, I'm more worried about the same.
Picture it, you're on the aisle, right?
What is the limit before you start to get annoyed
with how many times people will get up to go and pee?
We're on a 12 hour fly.
For me, it doesn't matter because no matter what,
I'm gonna be pissing more than these two people combined.
For me, for me, I never get pissed off
because I'm like, I get it, man.
I know the pain you're in.
I know the trouble you're in, I got your brother.
That's my mentality, right?
The aisle people, the aisle chumps are used to being annoyed.
That's my theory, right?
So I don't really feel bad about disturbing the aisle.
I'm fucking zen on the aisle.
You know, the middle seat you just lose.
So I mean, they already knew they lost.
The middle sea is just the loser's seat.
No one ever wants to sit in the middle seat unless I think
that you're a fucking psychopath
if you actually choose to sit in the middle seat.
Well, this is like, okay, well,
I mean, you know, in your,
the only time I don't give a shit
is if we're on like an hour or two flight.
I'm like, yeah, yeah, that's fine.
Literally I watch one Jason State
the movie and I'm there, right?
Yeah, but I mean, I do care on a 12 hour,
but you've already lost at that point,
and you should have pre-bucked, that's your fault.
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
But do you ever do that gamble where you're like,
I want the whole row to myself?
This plane looks just empty enough
where I think I can pull this off,
where you're like, I'm gonna book just a middle seat
in a clean row of three.
No, I never do that.
No, I do that.
That's the, I like to live life on the edge
because I know that what sick fuck
is gonna wanna sit next to a madman
that would willingly choose the aisle seat in a row of three.
That should send dangerous,
that should be like a danger sign.
No, because what I do is that I get the safe seat
of just an aisle seat.
Because I know that no matter what,
even if that aisle is full, I get the extra leg room,
I get immediate access to the toilet,
I don't disturb anybody, so win, win.
But then the moment I get on the plane,
and I see, oh, not a lot of people waiting
in this waiting room right now.
Right. Then that's when I go like,
so how many aisles are open today?
How many hours?
Can I sneak into one of those?
And like, I just ask.
And a lot of the times they're just like,
yeah, there's not many people.
That's when it's empty.
And also I don't ask, I just go.
Oh, okay.
The moment the plane, like the seatbelt things come on,
I'm like, that's a free aisle, that's mine.
I could see other people on the plane.
I see their eyes looking at the free seats.
I'm like, no, it's mine.
I'm gonna go.
I'm gonna get down.
Well, that's the other benefit of being in the aisle, right?
You immediately just go, go now.
But yeah, I mean, it's rare that I'm on a plane
where it's like, where there's an aisle there.
You're like, I'm pretty sure the gamble you're making
is like fucking gatcher odds.
I am talking about when the plane
it's like basically like 70 to 80% full.
Right, right, right.
Because again, like I said, no one,
if you're on the booking page of the plane,
you get to see the layout as you do,
you're not gonna sit next to the guy
who picked willingly in the middle
because that's a bad sign.
I wouldn't do that.
If I saw someone in the middle, I'm like,
he's a psychopath, that's a psychopath.
He wants to socialize on the plane.
Yeah, I'm like, no, no, no, I'm not formed for this.
I'm not here to socialize.
I don't want to join a cult today.
I'm sure that'll be some cult.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But then I don't mind going on the, okay, so,
okay, I'll do that gamble.
If it, if it doesn't work out, I might,
I might go to the, like, whoever's next to me,
like, you wanna swap?
Do you actually?
Yeah, sometimes.
I'm like, listen, I'm gonna sleep.
Do you want to swap?
And then they're like, yeah.
Wait, how easily do you sleep on planes?
Because I, I remember when I was like,
with great difficulty.
So, like, for me, sleeping on the window seat
is actually less comfortable than sleeping
on the aisle seat as well.
Because, for some reason, like,
But like, my, you know, your nature is, you know,
you can lean on the, on the wall part, right?
But the wall of the plane is, I don't know why,
it's just tilted at such an angle
where you can never get a comfortable leaning on that wall.
It's like, I don't know.
This is why you bring a-up.
I don't know what engineer designed it
to make planes, especially on the window seat,
the most uncomfortable angle to lean your head by.
Yeah, that is true.
I'm going to introduce you.
And it is so weird because I have no trouble
sleeping on cars.
Yeah.
Cars, trains, or any other kind of moving vehicle,
I sleep like a fucking baby.
Put me on a plane and I'm like insomnia,
like insomnia speed running.
It's just, like, I, well, I normally wear a hoodie
and a jacket no matter what the weather.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll use them as padding.
Yeah, because it also gets fucking cold.
Because I like, I need to be,
I need my head to be at least like a 45 degree angle, right?
That's called privilege.
Right.
No, no, no, no, like, like, like.
How does the, how does the,
how does the aisle make this solution better?
because I can't, I can't tilt my neck enough
that it's like, it's almost like horizontal.
Here's how I, I kind of go like, the wall is here
and the seat is here, I kind of nestle into this corner.
Yeah, because it's kind of like, go in.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do that.
Cause like for me, like, I said my head needs to be like
at least a 45 degree angle, so, you know, not, not,
not my entire body, but at least my head, you know,
so it feels at least like I'm lying down,
even though I'm, I wake up, I get fucking neck cramps or whatever.
Like I just, just go business.
Like at that point, just go business.
Honestly, I have no problem just sleeping.
Like, I'd put my head down and just sleep on my arms on my lap.
I can't do that.
I can do that.
I've attempted to do that as well.
I'm too tall.
That sounds like a short person solution to me.
This is what happens when you're lower than six foot,
you get, you can just, the world opens up to you.
It's like a fucking origami puzzle.
The 5-11 club over here.
Honestly, every time I go on a plane, now I'm just like,
damn, man.
I wish I was a bit short.
which I was the 5-11 club.
Fuck off.
God, how does it feel to be short?
Oh my God.
Well, that's the other benefit to being in the ILC, right?
Is that you can stick your legs out and actually stretch your out?
No, no, you can't.
Yeah, you can do for 10 minutes and the woman comes over.
She's like, hey, put your fucking legs in.
Or the cart comes by and your legs just fucking cut off.
No, I'm like fucking right up against the seat though.
Yeah.
It just slides past.
I don't know, I don't know, man.
It's like a Jackie Chan film.
I'm just like just scared.
I don't know if I can do this now because it's been like two years since I've been on a long flight.
Yeah.
It's been a while. Yeah.
It's been like two years, but I used to,
I used to stay up all night working,
and then my flight would be at like what,
like maybe midday if I was lucky,
maybe 8 a.m. if I was even luckier.
Yeah, so I'd stay up all night working
and then right before I got on the plane,
I would just take one of those like over the counter
to really cheap, weak sleeping pills that you could get.
The UK ones.
Yeah, they're super, they're not like American.
Like melatonin?
No, no, no, melatonin's the good shit.
Yeah, that's like illegal in the UK.
Or you need a prescription to get melatonin.
Oh, really?
Yeah, I think the one that you get
from the stores, like,
Similar to hay fever medicine, I think.
Oh, like the drowsy medicine.
I swear to God, that's your sugar pills.
I swear to go.
It doesn't actually do much,
but it's enough to like kind of get your head going
and you're like, all right, okay.
I'm already sleep deprived.
I stayed up all night working.
And now I'm gonna go to bed.
Because like when I would, when, what was it,
two and a half years ago, maybe the last con season
I actually did before pandemic,
I went back and forth from America
like four times in one month to the UK.
And the only way I could do it
was by sleeping.
I just like,
I, if I need to sleep on a plane,
and I don't have like melatonin, or like sleeping pills.
I've never taken melatonin.
Yeah, I just go like, just give me like two June and tonics.
Just down, I know.
I know.
Alcohol doesn't work on me to make me sleep.
I don't know.
Really? To me, I never drink alcohol on planes
because alcohol just makes the fluids run through my body faster,
so I just got to pee more.
So that just adds an extra layer of stress for me
because I'm just like, I gotta pee more now I'm on this plane.
I cannot pee.
I can not pee.
I can not pee.
That's an out of context, I can hold the pee
for like the whole 12 hours.
I'm mad man, like I can't.
I unloaded before I go on the plane.
I unload.
I fully unleash it and I drink minimal water on the plane.
Yeah.
Well, I'm pretty sure I unload as much as like possibly.
Can I go to pee like five times
before I get on the plane and like I sit down.
Immediately as I know.
You're peeing five times before you get in a plane.
You're probably sounds like it's failed you
before you even got to the gate.
I'm only peeing like one.
Yeah, I don't know what it is though.
It's like a Pavlovian.
where like the moment you hear the dung of like the seatbelt sign,
it's like, oh fuck, I have to pee.
Every time.
I mean, that's what, I can hold it and I can sleep.
So I'm like, I tell the people next to me,
like if they seem nice, if they don't seem nice,
I won't know and say anything, because you can just tell sleep play.
Tell them what?
Or just be like, don't, if the food comes, don't wake me up.
I don't care about the food.
Don't wake me up for any.
I thought you're gonna say, don't worry,
don't worry if you have to pee, because I'm all for it, man.
Because sometimes if you're in, like,
if you're in asleep and they ask you, do you want food,
and they feel you,
think that you're like actually like conked out like completely.
Yeah. They might think like, oh my god, he's like,
he's fainted or something or like, you know.
No, I've just, if I'm gonna-
If you don't wake up, if you don't wake up.
Yeah, if I'm on a plane and I'm asleep
while the food goes past, like I've never been woken up for food.
Oh my God, I have people wait me up so many times.
Dude, that is, I hate that.
And I'm like, do you know how hard I worked?
For this- Exactly right.
I waited two hours to get to sleep for five fucking minutes
so you could wake me up.
This is why I also don't wanna sit in the fucking in the aisle,
because the moment I fall asleep,
some person gonna be like,
excuse me, can I go to the toilet?
You literally waited, you waited until I fell, fall to sleep.
Right, right, yeah.
Fucking piece of shit, I hate you.
You were a scum of the earth.
I will watch, the moment I see them about to fall asleep,
I'm like, I'm gonna pee, if I'm in the thing
because I'm like, I wanna give you some time.
And like, there's only one thing that annoys me more
about getting woken up just to eat, you know,
on a plane, which I wasn't even hungry
in the first place.
And that is babies on a plane.
I don't know, man.
Crying babies on a plane just trigger something in me, man.
I think it should be legally allowed.
Do you have those cancelling headphones?
I don't.
They're a lifesaver.
Literally, the, what are they called these?
Dude, I feel like, I feel like a baby's cry
pierces any kind of anything.
No, no, no, dude, those Sony WX4,000,
whatever the fuck they are, the stupidest name
they ever picked for them.
Those amazing noise cancelling headphones,
you won't hear a fucking thing.
Yeah.
Yeah, because I've, I don't know,
I don't really, I don't usually use noise cancelling head
that might be my problem.
Because right now I'm just like,
I think it should be legally allowed
to punch babies if they cry on a plane.
Like that's, can we all just agree on that?
Shut up.
I feel like they might cry more,
God, I don't know how the parents
would feel about this.
You gotta hit him just right.
Turns out of mad max when the baby starts crying.
And parents are like fucking,
but like, I mean,
all right man, problem solved.
I never thought, I never thought I needed.
It's like Austin Powers,
judo chom.
Joe Chop!
Oh my God.
I never thought I needed noise can't
I literally go everywhere with them.
Like you see me, I'm always, well, yeah,
I do not go anywhere without my noise canceling headphones now.
I would only use noise cancelling headphones
for the airplane.
That's what you think, that's what you think.
Okay, in what are the, like, situations?
It's so nice on the train,
or any form of transport walking around,
just getting to isolated and hearing your music
and just the music.
And if you want, you can hear some background noise,
it doesn't really matter.
Dude, it's like,
living through an AMV.
It's fucking awesome.
It's great. I wanna hear Phil to Franco
when I'm walking downtown going,
what's how beautiful bastards in my ear?
Right in my ear, right in my ear.
All I wanna hear is Phil in my ear.
I feel like I zone out enough as it is.
I don't need noise-canceling headphones.
Like me, I literally just walk in front of a truck
or something have had noise-canceling headphones on.
You learn to adapt.
You learn to adapt.
You become more wary.
I look around a lot more now.
Yeah, yeah.
This is a good thing.
I kind of like daredevil, right?
Like you take out one sense, so you gotta-
compensate frame of your other sense or something.
Just buy them, you'll see, you'll see.
Yeah, they're great.
Because I always thought like expensive headphones,
I don't need more than 20 bucks or 50 bucks headphones,
what a scam.
And then I bought them and I'm like,
I'm such a fool.
I was so wrong the whole time.
The peeps and boobs sound even better now.
Oh, they are amazing.
I mean, I changed everything.
I did used to have like really, really good headphones,
but they were just a real hassle.
Beats by Drey.
They were just like a real hassle to just lug around.
That's why I stopped using them.
That's why mine are like,
they fall in in themselves.
Pretty easy to put a coat pocket or something.
I just use the AirPods.
Yeah, that's why I'm, I like using like, you know,
earbuds whenever it's daily life.
If it's on a plane, yeah, I'll bring the headphones.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Now, I wear the headphones everywhere.
See, like, especially this time, like,
I don't mind the headphones either,
but like this time of year, when it gets hot as shit.
Yeah.
I hate having headphones around my head.
I need something to distract me from the heat.
So you blast the audio.
So what, add more heat around the neck.
Take one of the,
more insulation.
Take one of the sensors away from me,
so I can just go to another world.
They don't have to fucking pay attention to Japan anymore.
No, I hate that because I start sweating here,
like on my ears and then when I take it off, it's like,
well, you have a lot of hair, though,
so that might be why,
because I don't really have like that much hair around here, so.
I mean, that's pretty good.
Nice self-burn, you're like,
muffling all the hair in there,
you're like fucking making another.
I have like, like, raise it up like this
to like hear anything.
Yeah, we'll be fine then.
Yeah, you're good.
Yeah, you're fine.
I'll be fine, I'll be good.
I'll be good.
Sure enough, I'll have no hair
and then I'll be no problem with him.
Then you'll just have like a sunburn mark on the head.
Looking forward to getting sunburned on your head corner?
No.
It's gonna become a hat guy.
Beanie guy.
I mean you're already are starting to become a hat guy.
Every time I see you in the summer.
Well yeah, because I realized that like it fucking hurts to not wear a hat.
It hurts?
Yeah, the sun hurts so much.
I think that's what the biggest thing that changed to me.
I was walking today to the train and I was like,
when did I just like hate seeing the sun?
Like when did that happen?
I wonder that happening.
Cause I remember I didn't mind being outside.
Right.
Now I hate the thought of having the sun on my skin at all.
Like beaming.
Sounds like the most British thing I've ever heard.
Honestly.
I didn't used to be this way.
I don't know what happened.
I just hate the sun.
Wait, can you literally?
Can you tan?
Uh, no, I just burn.
Right.
But now I actually like, if I stay in the sun too long,
I feel like nauseous real fast.
Really?
Without like a hat or anything, yeah.
I don't know if that's like a different way.
Is it just because it's too hot?
I think maybe here, yeah.
Yeah.
I think because this is just way hotter
than I'm used to.
It's also because the humidity, right?
Yeah, the humidity is the sun.
It's not the sun, it's just the heat.
Because in like England, the sun fucking tickles you,
you know?
It's like, you don't feel anything.
But it's like, I feel like they play off each other,
so the sun makes the humidity worse
and the humidity makes the sun.
Yeah, absolutely.
Because when the sun's beaming on you
in like LA or whatever, it's not too bad.
Obviously, I don't wanna stand that.
Really? It hurts.
I don't know, man.
I don't know.
I'm not saying it's great,
but I mean, it's better than it is in Japan
just because the humidity makes it feel
times worse.
I mean, I don't know if there's some like ray bullshit,
like mimic, like, you know,
going in the water droplets in the air,
just fucking, the frogs are making the water turn gay.
I don't know if there's some shit going on there.
I don't know.
Some conspiracy theory shit.
I don't know if there's pretty some,
someone's smarter than me, because figured it out.
It's honestly, I think it's just like a preference thing, right?
Like some people are like, yeah, humidity's whatever.
And then there are others who are like,
yeah, my skin is like physically burning.
I like a little bit of humidity.
Japanese humidity is like way too much.
Yeah.
Last summer I could only survive by going around
with like a fucking UV umbrella.
I felt like an old woman.
Yeah, that's right.
I felt like an old woman.
I would just go around like this foldable umbrella
that I would just go around.
I'd be like, don't talk to me.
Because I caught.
The first time I saw you with that, I thought,
I was like, are you waiting for me to like say a joke?
Or like, you take a piece or?
Because I realized it's not enough to just protect my head.
Is this a bit?
It started like even the hat didn't really help that much.
And I needed to cover like my neck and like my arm.
arms and shoulders.
You need to get those like visors.
But I'm one step away from being the old woman
at the supermarket because they wear like sleeves,
like shade sleeves and like a full like neck thing
for the sun.
Shout out to those of us who've never been sunburned in our lives.
Is this some white man problem that I just don't get?
I think so.
I think I'm aging rapidly.
Imagine sunburning.
Imagine sunburning.
Oh God.
Imagine being hurt by this natural occurring
that's existed since the beginning of our planet.
I feel like my body didn't age,
and then it decided to everything,
everything would just kick into overdrive
and start aging rapidly from age like 23.
I don't know what happened.
Moving to Japan just made me feel old.
I don't know why.
So now I-
Literally the youngest man in his room.
But my UV umbrella broke, it was shit, it snapped.
It broke.
I don't know how it broke.
What did the sun snap it?
I don't know.
The rays were too heavy.
I like to, you know.
What broke about, how did it break?
How did it break?
You know when you pull it out?
Because it was one of the foldable ones
so I could fit it in like a small bag.
Yeah.
It's just like when I pulled it out one time
it just fucking came off.
And I was like, oh.
I guess no sun protection for the day then.
No, so now I need to buy a new one.
I've been looking on Amazon,
but this one hasn't called my fancy yet, so I'm well,
I'm very picky.
Is this a fashion statement or something as well?
No, I just wanted one that wouldn't break,
you know, because I've been burnt once,
twice now from the sun and from the umbrella break.
Then just buy a more sturdy one, surely.
Oh, thanks, God.
It's an umbrella.
I didn't think about fucking doing that.
It's a fucking umbrella.
How wrong can you, how wrong can an umbrella be?
Does it protect you?
Does it give you shade?
That's all it needs to do, surely.
Well, I mean, you know, because-
Why the fuck you're worried about, like, the designer?
Well, because I already look like a clown using it.
I wanna at least not make it too bad.
If I got a pink one, it's like, it looks pretty bad.
So I wanna try and get like somewhat stuff.
Nothing wrong with pink, man.
Yeah, I would, I could rock it.
I just don't wanna have to justify why I'm rocking it to people.
You know what I mean?
Like, because people ask questions.
Why are you like trying to prove a point?
I could earn it.
I just don't want to.
I have no qualms about having a pink umbrella.
That's what you're wondering.
That's the most like roundabout way of saying,
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Fine, I'll buy it.
Yeah, get it.
Do it for the bit.
Yeah, fine, fine.
No one's gonna see it.
It's literally my eyes.
It's for the bit.
It's for the bit.
My daily life.
It's my, my day life is a joke.
We'll put on the Twitter, don't worry.
Subreda will go hand with my door.
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Oh my God, yeah, so, I don't know.
Well, in other news, there's something that happened.
There is something less light-hearted and more serious that has happened recently.
I was trying to find of like a little like downtime before we get on time.
I guess we're going straight into it.
Let's just go straight into depression.
So, how can we say this, boys?
One of the greatest manga artists.
One of my fucking heroes just died?
One of the greatest manga artists of all time
just passed away recently.
And this is all news by the time this comes out.
By the time this comes out,
this would be like a month old news now.
But yeah, Cantarumura, author of berserk,
has passed away.
Age 54, right?
Yeah, age 54 of like, what did he die of?
I forgot the scientific name of it,
but it's like one of his main arteries in his heart
just like exploded.
Fuck, essentially.
So basically it's a heart attack.
Yeah.
Yeah, but yeah, it's a fucking horrible way
I'll tell you, honestly, after hearing about this news,
I'm never gonna make fun of a hiatus ever again.
Yeah, honestly, dude.
No, like legit, like it's scary, man, like, because, yeah,
because, you know, obviously no one really knew
as to why he was on hiatus, right?
Yeah, no, no one knew.
They normally don't usually give reasons.
They're just like, he's on, he, she's...
People are extremely first.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's on hiatus, just deal with it kind of thing.
Yeah.
Um, but yeah, apparently, I guess, I don't know,
was he sick at all?
Or was it just completely?
I don't really don't know.
At the time of recording, I haven't read enough
about what happened to know if it was like a
reoccurring health problem or if it was just a sudden thing.
But man, like, we all know how much pressure
manga artists get put through anyway
and how much work they have to do in a weekly basis.
I mean, it's crazy to think that most of the big manga artists
we know about, you know, working Shonen Jump or whatever,
get like two weeks off, no, less than two weeks off.
for a year, right?
Well, it's like golden week and then like one extra week.
I don't take it as well.
I doubt they take it.
And they don't really, I doubt they take it off as well.
It's just one week where they are forced
to take a break, right?
I mean, I wasn't too familiar with the berserk.
I'd only watch the 90s anime.
That's familiar enough.
Which I really enjoyed.
Yeah, it's very good.
It's great.
But fuck, I mean, it's just kind of sad
hearing a like a legend of the industry
who's kind of influenced a lot of things
that we've done.
Yeah.
Because I remember we were filming another project,
when the news broke to us.
And it didn't hit me immediately
because I was in like work mode,
I was in filming mode, so I was like,
okay, gotta do this, this, this,
and then I got home,
listened to Guts's theme once
and he just played continuously
for like the entire night
and I'm just, I was just sitting there,
just like fucking, like my soul,
part of my soul had died.
Yeah, I literally went home
and I was like, I'm gonna reread Berserk.
And then I feel like everyone did.
Yeah, I started reading it.
Yeah, I couldn't get past volume one
without feeling like this fucking wave
of like, oh fuck.
Yeah, because like I always know that Berserk
is one of the greatest manga that has ever been made.
And then going back home and realizing,
just remembering everything that was in this story
and in this manga, it just hit even fucking harder
because I just had forgotten how good it was
before I really took the time to remember
what it had achieved and some of its greatest moments.
If you hadn't read Berserk,
there's always a perfect time to read it.
Berserk because any time is the perfect time to read Berserk. So please read fucking Berserk.
It's amazing. I mean, the manga single-handedly inspired the Dark Souls series. I mean, it
inspired a lot. It wasn't just Dark Souls. A lot of things wouldn't exist right now if not for Berserk.
Oh, yeah. And I don't know what it is about Berserk, but it's literally like, it's literally
the one show, or not even the one show, the one story or the one manga that seems to be like
no matter how tough this person is, no matter how, like, detainty.
they are from the world or whatever.
Berserk seems to be that one story
that seems to be able to affect anyone who reads it.
Yeah, because like fundamentally, you know,
it's like this whole like dark fantasy thing
with these like mythical creatures and it's bloody, gory
and you know, epic.
But like the main themes mostly are just like,
you know, one person trying to figure out
what the fuck they want to do in life.
Yeah. And like that's a theme that literally anyone can get behind, right?
Like I'm kind of in this world, shit's happening,
happening around me, I don't really know what my purpose is in life.
I forgot how brutal it was.
It's brutal.
Again, I watched all the 90s anime.
I was like, holy shit.
The 90s obvious brutal as fuck.
Yeah, yeah.
I was like, what the fuck?
I was like, oh my God.
Like, it's just like, fuck.
It just, it just hurts to read.
Yeah, it does.
It's so uncomfortable at times.
Yeah, and I think it's incredible because it is
really, really fucking brutal.
There are some like, like his art, obviously,
we haven't talked about his art yet.
It's like some of the best art to ever exist in the world of manga.
Like some of the horrific imagery he was managed to conjure up.
And some of like the creature designs and everything were just something straight out of a nightmare, you know?
Oh yeah.
And it's a brutal show and it's an action-packed show as well for his guts.
It's like one of the biggest badasses in anime and manga.
And yet having said all that, the moments that people will remember are like the really intimate moments,
which isn't what you think
if you looked at berserk on a surface level, right?
You look at berserk, you see these horrific creatures,
you see guts with a massive sword,
tearing shit up, and you're like,
yeah, this is a manly man show,
and then you read it, and you're just like fucking crying inside
because, you know, you see,
you're trying to see guts, like, get through his trauma
and find his journey and everything like that.
It's like, it's the real intimate moments
that always stand out, and it's the real serene moments
that always stand out.
And I think that's what really sets berserk apart
from like so many other series
where it's the serene moments
juxtaposed against all like the horrific moments
that make it one of, to me,
like it's one of my favorite pieces of fiction
that's ever been made.
No, 100%.
And I got reminded of that after remembering
everything that's, everything that Berserk did.
It's like if the fucking Doom guy had like a wife and family
and he just went home sometime.
You get reminded, you get reminded like, oh shit, this is a guy.
Because when you, when you're,
well, you guys like, why am I killing these?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
What is my purpose?
I was really, you know,
because I don't know why someone compared it
on Twitter and I thought, oh, that would be, I guess so,
but then I read, I was like, no, no, no, no.
Yeah, I'm like, but it is kind of like,
you do forget, because sometimes, like,
you're reading it, you're like,
this is like so doom-esque,
where he's just, literally just beheading horses.
Yeah, yeah.
And then you're like, oh, it's just like,
too, and then it's like really sad,
you're like, this isn't like,
this is too much.
It's literally that meme where the girls are like,
I can't believe he didn't cry during Titanic,
do boys even have feet?
and then like this, there's just the boys crying over
the Gutsis theme, which was literally what I was doing that night.
Just Gus's thing was playing and I was just like crying in bed,
just like, oh my God.
Yeah, I don't know, it's just, yeah, like every time I reread it,
it's just because, you know, every time a new volume came out,
because it was so much time in between, like, the later volumes.
I was like, well, fuck, I guess I have to read it from scratch again.
And so I would keep reading it from scratch over and over again.
And it's just one of those shows where I'm just like,
how does this not get like stale?
Yeah.
Because I probably read it, like the first 30 volumes,
probably like a good like maybe 10, 20 times.
Yeah.
And I'm just like, how does this keep just getting better?
Like how do I keep finding new things in this?
I mean, you guys know me, I don't fucking rewatch anything.
I refuse to rewatch, but I even just rereading the first,
the, what was it the first old called?
The golden age.
The golden age.
Just rereading that again, I'm like, holy shit, this was so good.
Yeah.
Like even though I've seen this, I've read it earlier.
Like I tried to read it again ages ago for some reason now.
And like, this is-
Sometimes when I'm bored,
I just like go to the eclipse arc and just look at the art.
Yeah.
This is like, how can one person think of this?
Yeah, I know.
This is insane.
And you know.
And the dude was like 15 as well
when he like first came up with the concept of Berserk.
Yeah, did you see like, did you see the manga he made
before Berserk when he was actually 15?
It was like 15 or 16.
I'm like, it's better than most modern manga artists.
You know.
I'm like, this is not the art skill of a 15 year old.
Exactly, exactly.
And like he paired that talent
and he just kept improving on it to the point where
Literally, I don't know, there's only if like a few people
in the world who I think could even match, you know,
the talent that he put into the panels that he did.
I mean, I saw this like really interesting interview
with him like after, you know, his death was announced
where like apparently one of the big reasons
as to why he was on hiatus was because he got so infatuated
with detail that it would literally get to the point
where he would zoom in and like actually edit every fucking pixel.
Yeah. Oh my God.
Honestly.
And like, and he,
Like a prisoner to perfection.
Yeah, and he kept, you know, getting like on hiatus
over and over again and his, you know,
editors would be like, you can't even see this detail on paper.
Yeah. So like just stop.
And he was just like, no, I have to get this right.
I have to get this perfect.
Honestly, like some of the panels he's done
belongs in a museum, you know, there.
Cause like, I, because the reason for that
is because I just remember like that night when I went back,
I just like went to look at some of the panels
and I just remember staring at them for such a long time.
Because you know, when you're reading a story,
Sometimes, you know, you wanna see what happens next.
So you don't read it, you don't appreciate the art
at the moment when you first read it.
But I went back to look at some of the panels
and I just, the amount of work and the amount of detail
and the amount of vision that was put into these panels
were fucking amazing and I did not appreciate it fully the first time.
Even though I could like tell these were amazing.
I didn't take the time to fully appreciate
how fucking amazing some of these panels are
because they are incredible.
Oh, 100%.
And they, you know, they are just basically the same
as any other painting or any other art.
I really wanna know if they have, like,
a berserk art book of some kind,
because I would fucking purchase that in a heartbeat, dude.
I can imagine that they'll probably end up doing something soon
to like celebrate the legacy, right?
I hope they do like open up an exhibit or something.
Yeah, that'd be right.
Because that would be absolutely amazing.
Because if there's one, you know,
one manga that deserves an exhibit,
that deserves their artwork to be plastered on a wall,
it's mirror, yeah.
It's fucking berserk.
Yeah, 100%.
It was kind of sad to see that a lot of people were just like,
well, what's gonna happen to the story?
And it's like,
no, it's aren't fans of berserk.
Yeah, it's frustrating that,
because when I saw the announcement on Twitter,
there was saying people being like,
does this mean it's not gonna finish?
It's like, yes, no shit, that's-
To me, it's just so, it's like,
how about you just give them a chance to like,
grieve before you ask these questions?
If anything, I'm kind of-
The answer's probably gonna be no.
Because there were a lot of people as well
being like, oh, but you know,
they can probably just get like mirrors assistance
to finish it.
And like, no, no.
I would rather it just be where it is.
Yeah, just end it.
I'm fine with it being an unfinished masterpiece.
You know, that's fine, that's fine for me.
It's bizarre.
Was it realistically ever gonna finish, do you think?
I mean, I don't think, I don't think, like,
not a single one of like the, you know, the kings
and the, like, killed.
I think only one of them was killed.
I think one of them was.
Yeah.
So there was a long, long, long way to go.
Yeah, we were so early in the story,
and the pace that the story was progressing,
I doubt it would have finished in our lifetime.
Or, you know, I think it was always going to be unfinished.
But I think Berserk's already achieved enough
that it doesn't need to be finished.
Yeah, it was like what I said when we talked about,
last time we spoke of Rie Manga, where I just get to,
I often get to a point when reading Manga, I'm like,
I'm satisfied.
I, genuinely, it'd be cool if this ends nicely.
Yeah.
But I've read up to a point where I feel like
I'm happy with what I've been given.
Yeah.
And I feel like Berserk has definitely done that.
There's been plenty of moments in berserk
that have felt like a resolution moment.
Yeah, like a big resolution moment.
Even though not every plot detail was resolved,
even though not every loose end was tied up,
I feel like it's resolved enough in my heart
to make it like impact me this much already, you know.
And I think the berserk, you know,
the journey of guts is already amazing enough as it is.
And some journeys, you know, some journeys don't need
to come to an end on paper, you know.
I've seen enough of the journey where I'm satisfied.
It's, yeah, it's incredible.
Just knowing that he's, he's out there somewhere still.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Looking for the end, right?
Exactly.
The biggest fucking sword.
Yeah, and honestly, I don't know what else to say.
It was just, it's, it's a story that has impacted me.
If there's anything we can say on this trash day's episode, please go read Berserk.
Like, give it a go.
Pay respect to the king.
Yeah, honestly.
Honestly, he's the fucking goat.
He's a king.
I hope, you know, if we find out more about the details
of what might have caused his early death,
that if it is something to do with being overworked
or anything, the lifestyle that I hope it does make a change.
If it is, we don't know that obviously.
And we might never know.
But if we do find out more details
and it becomes publicly available and we, you know,
we know that maybe being overworked is a problem.
I think it'll be good to at least, you know,
kind of put into the public discussion.
Because, you know, even if you are,
you know, you have,
because normally with heart problems
and this kind of blood stuff,
it's normally there is some hereditary stuff at play.
Yeah, but I mean, still at 54 is young.
Yeah, 5, 54.
Would have to have play a play.
I don't think so.
And I just want mine because not have so much stress
on their body where it fails, you know?
Yeah. I don't know, I feel bad, man.
It makes you feel shitty.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's, it sucks because, like,
you know, there's not really much I can add to that
because manga artists work a hell of a-
We know, we know they get.
We know they work way too hard.
Whether voluntarily or not,
the deadlines that they set themselves
or are set on them, they die too much.
Yeah.
And it doesn't help that fans are so demanding
and that for some fucking reason,
the first questions that some fans have
when an author dies is what happens to the story.
Yeah.
It's like, I mean, it feels so selfish
and it feels that, you know,
because we as fans also have something
where we're selfish and we want them.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know that, like surprisingly from what I saw,
there weren't as many of those kinds of comments.
It just sours your taste when you see like even one.
Yeah, every now and then I saw it, I'm like,
okay, clearly you don't really give the shit.
I mean, not an episode of fans are great
and understanding and stuff.
They were just some of the insensitive ones.
Yeah, but it reminds me of a-
But it's like when there's earthquakes and stuff, right?
Yeah. People are always just like,
oh, the manga, it's delayed because of an earthquake
and it's like, what do you mean?
Like people die.
Like, earthquakes are no fucking joke.
And it's like people that most, I mean,
you know, obviously with this situation
is very sensitive, you know,
and it was very fresh,
and a lot of people care,
but I know it's especially with like earthquakes
and stuff, yeah.
Yeah.
People are very quick to be like,
oh, who gives you shit?
It's not earthquake.
It happens all the time.
Yeah, yeah.
And it's like, well, I think it plays into the,
the overall sentiment of that a lot of anime fans
and manga fans are very demanding
for the stuff that they want.
Yeah.
And I feel like, we as fans,
you chill out a little bit.
Yeah, they care about the product,
but not so much about the person making it.
Yeah, I feel like,
We as fans generally to chill out about our passion
for anime and manga.
I'd say that.
External things happen, they happen.
It is what it is.
Remember that some actual person is making your product.
Yeah, you know, whether it be an earthquake
or personal stress, they're all valid reasons
for work to be delayed, whatever it's delayed.
You know, I just, I just want creators
to be able to create the shit to the best of their ability.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, it kind of reminds me.
I hope that's not controversial for me to say.
I don't know.
What a hot take.
I don't know.
Respect, respect staff members, respect artists.
I'm sure everyone can agree on it.
It's just more, you know, we're,
I'm sure 99% of people watching this.
Don't do that, it's just that 1% run.
It's always that 1% because I remember,
just reminds me of like the Game of Thrones thing
with Joe Arr Martin, where I remember like seeing an interview with him
and he was, he said that he got annoyed that some people were worried about his health,
not because they were worried about his health,
but they were worried if he would be alive to finish game
Thrones. Right. And I'm just like, yeah, that's pretty fucked up with like fans are saying that to you, aren't they?
Jesus Christ. And even if they didn't say it, I'm sure he knows that people are probably thinking.
Yeah, he can read between the lines. Yeah, of course. People only care about his well-being in terms of the book. Like, he's being fucking held hostage by the story. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? You can't fucking do anything. If anyone knows the intention of Game of Thrones fans, it's the guy who made Game of Thrones.
It's just sad. It's just sad. It's just sad. I don't know. It's not like this makes me sad for like many reasons, you know.
There's so much of play.
This does it.
This is, I mean, it's a sad topic.
Unfortunately.
It's all about the respect.
That's all it is.
Just respect the creators, respect the artists.
Yeah.
Give them some space if they're feeling sick
or need a break.
Yeah.
Moving on to light topics though.
I heard you've been watching anime recently, Connor.
Oh, I kinda, yeah.
Which is a rare, which is a rare feat in it off itself.
I remember I used to do that.
I know the anime man.
What happens?
You guys watch Castlevania?
Yeah, the new season?
I haven't.
No, season four now.
But we haven't talked about Calcivenia, yeah, hasn't it?
It's so good.
Yeah.
I mean, I watched up to season three.
Yeah, if there's one anime I have, like,
kind of caught up to, it's Calumania.
What does you get up to, Castlevania?
I got up to season three.
So I haven't finished season three, I'm about halfway three season three.
Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, it's just been, for me,
it's been getting better and better every season
as it's been going on and I just haven't had time to binge it yet.
So, I don't know, man.
And everything about that anime, especially the past season,
just blew it out the one.
What's so good about it?
Like I feel like everything that was good in previous seasons
was at its best this season.
Yeah, really?
The story was the best.
The animation was just insane.
Like some of the fights, even though in season three,
the fight was like the final fight was so good.
Even season one had some great animation.
It just feels like they've stepped it up.
Like again, like I think one of the strongest points
of Castlevania has been the voice acting.
Yeah.
English voice acting is fantastic.
It's insane.
Yeah, it's fantastic.
The fact that they have like all the,
all the accents on point, none of the accents
silly.
Every single accent that the characters have,
it feels is genuine.
Every single British accent is on point.
And it's like, holy shit, how do they do this?
This never happens in anime.
How do they get an actual accent?
It's like they hired British actors.
Yeah, like I love the fact that, for example,
that Jojo in the dub, like trying to do the accents,
but I wish they'd got the native people.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because like in Jojo part one, it's Johnny Ongosh
doing in a British accent, which isn't bad.
Yeah, it is.
Which isn't bad, but I know there's no shortage
of native English British British,
that can work in LA.
Yeah, you know, like.
It feels like the voice actors they hide
for Carcivenias were just outside of your usual
anime voice accent.
Yeah, they were just like, they felt like general actors
that would act in like a TV series
or like a live action movie.
Well, yeah, because they have like,
they have such a good variation of British accents.
Like they have like the whole spectrum
and each, and they've chosen it, like,
the character is given the accent based very specifically on like
where it would be in the UK, like,
where you were born, your wealth, your,
your wealth, your socioeconomic background.
It sounds like it's so stupid, but it fits every single character.
And it's just insane because, I mean,
I, we can't appreciate, I mean,
we can't appreciate that in the Japanese one
where they might get regional accents on point
within their own show, right?
Sometimes you get like the subtitles
where they're supposed to be a bit more like Osaka
or dialect, a bit rough, but I can't really appreciate that.
Yeah. Honestly, I've been appreciating
Japanese voice acting a lot more recently.
Yeah, because I've actually started to watch anime,
without subtitles on.
So I'm like properly forced to like listen.
Level 100 weeve right now.
Oh yeah, exactly, exactly.
You're at the final stage before you graduate weevir.
Exactly, exactly.
So like, it's the final test.
Yeah, so I'm like trying to pick up more of my Japanese
and part of the exercise of putting myself through
is like everything I watch now, not subtitled.
Like my enjoyment has definitely of anime gone down,
but it's like- It helps so much more.
It's a night and day watching with subtitles on
and without subtitles.
When you don't understand something that's being said,
how do you go back and turn subtitles on?
Yeah, so normally I watch anime
on Crunchyroll or Netflix, right?
So Crunchyroll also have the opportunity
to select no subtitles, so I can select no subtitles.
If there's something that I really, really wanna know
what they said, I just rewind a bit.
Turn on subtitles like, oh, okay, that's what they said.
And I move on.
Right, same thing with Netflix as well.
I mean, it turns anime to,
not just like a passive watching thing
and you're just like actively watching.
Yeah, it is study material.
But if you're gonna have study material,
at least have study material you can enjoy, right?
It's just a different kind of watching in my eyes.
But since then, I remember recently I've been watching Nagatoro
without subtitles and I had like my first emotional response
to watching an anime and without having subtitles on it.
It felt it felt nice because I'm just like,
oh, I get what's going on.
I'm getting emotionally invested.
Is this what these Japanese people?
Is this why, is this why?
Yeah, that's exactly what I felt.
It's like, ooh, I'm feeling some stuff now.
Oh, oh, this is how the Japanese people feel?
I'm not reading the subtitles and getting feelings.
I'm actually hearing it.
I'm listening to it.
Oh, I don't know how to quite describe it
because it was a new feeling for me.
Well gone, I do the same thing, just with hentai.
Because they don't have subtitles most of the time.
So I just watch.
Fair enough.
I feel big brain when I, Kim or Chi, I'm like,
I got that one, I understand that.
I'm kidding.
I gotta send most of it actually.
She feels weird that I'm doing you with hentai.
I'm not fucking anime.
Do I have actually one word from hentai?
And that was Naka.
Because I remember going through my Japanese classes
and it's like, I was like,
so Naka means inside.
And I was like, where have I heard the term Naka?
Or Naka-ne.
Center.
Yeah, yeah, like inside.
Well, I've heard, oh, that's where I've heard that before.
It's a word you hear quite often.
Yeah, that's the word.
Yeah, that's the word I've learned from hentai
that can all, I can always use in daily life as well.
I can already see the meme, it's like the fucking,
the fucking gart drinking with the fucking coffee,
watching subtitle, anime with no subtitles,
watching hentai with no subtitles.
I can already see the meme.
But I mean, yeah, sorry.
Yeah, the voice acting is fucking stellar, man.
I, dude, if every voice acting was like,
Castlevania, we would,
we would only be watching dubbed anime.
I mean, look, dude, do you think it's,
It played a massive part to, I assume it's a big part of it
is because it was dubbed first in English
rather than dubbed from Japanese to English.
Is there a Japanese dub for?
I'm pretty sure there must be.
I've never seen it in Japanese.
I don't know if I'll be able to.
When you watch the dub, it's so goddamn good,
it's actually a shame to watch it in any other language.
Maybe this is how Japanese people feel with some of that actually.
Yeah, yeah, we'd have a choice.
But when we have a choice, why would you, you know,
pick the one that is best, right?
Yeah.
This is definitely one of those shows where I'm like,
it's not even a competition.
Yeah, yeah, because like-
But then obviously it was, yeah, it's not-yais.
Yeah, because when I watched season one,
I was like, all right, well, the default is in English.
Yeah.
Because it's an English production.
All right, I'll watch episode one, if this,
you know, voice acting is kind of subpar,
then whatever, I'll change it.
Yeah. But literally first five minutes,
I was like, all right, English it is then.
All right, I'm sticking to it.
It's fantastic.
It's like an anime that is written with kind of
pretty, pretty fucking good American,
I would say, it's American writers, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
a lot easier for the actors to act the script.
Yeah, because the dialogue is like very witty
and very sad.
It's really funny.
Because you hear the dialogue
and it doesn't feel like anime dialogue.
It's so fucking funny.
It's good.
Very, very witty and like facetious shit.
Oh, okay.
It's just like it's so rare to find an anime dub
where people actually swear.
You know, I can count them on one hand, you know.
When someone says fuck or shit, I'm like, oh,
oh, this stuff's going hard.
Oh, we're not in Japan anymore.
I love it, I love it.
Yeah, so like hearing, hearing it just like said so naturally,
you know, like, like any, like talk to any other Brit or Ozzy,
you know, it's, it's, it's something that's like just ingrained
into our speech.
If you listen to trash taste, you'd fucking know that.
Um, but- It's great to because it doesn't feel forced.
No, no, yeah.
Because there's a lot of times where they're like,
we're gonna be a little explicit just, just to, you know,
be like, ooh, edgy and everything.
But like, in Castlevania, it's like,
yeah, I can imagine that.
Yeah, they would totally say that.
Because like, when you hear it to the next
an anime or like an anime video game,
because I remember the most recent example
I can think of is playing persona five dubbed
and hearing Ryugi say shit.
I'm just like, Ryuji, wash your mouth, sir.
You are but a child?
Excuse me?
When Trevor Belmont's like, oh, for fuck, see.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Say it again, say it again, but louder.
Say it again.
In my ears, closer.
It's so good, dude.
Like everything about that, like,
even though it gets a lot of good,
you know, people say it's very good,
I feel like it should be way
bigger than it is.
It's genuinely like one of my favorite animas
that I've watched in the past like year.
I agree with that.
It's really up there.
I can't wait so you watch season four fully
and you're gonna be like, all right, okay, hold that.
I mean, for me, right now it doesn't even feel like an anime.
You know, it's, I mean, it's like,
it's an American production, obviously,
but we're about to get into that topic.
It feels in the same area as Avatar.
Avatar, yeah.
Yeah, I also consider Avatar anime.
I mean, Japanese people consider it an anime.
It's anime.
I didn't consider it anime until I actually watched
all of Avatar and I'm like,
okay, I can see where this argument never ends.
Yeah, I mean, you know, with this,
we're getting into semantics, you know,
it's whatever because the only thing I was saying is that.
Anime or not, it's fantastic.
Yeah, anime or not, it's fantastic,
but I don't give a shit if you think of it's an anime or not,
it's just a fantastic show in general.
All I was trying to say is like,
I don't think people, more people in the anime
community are talking about it,
it's just because it feels different.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let me give you an anecdotal story.
I was talking to a guy and I asked him,
I was like, oh, which anime do you like?
And he goes, one anime that I watched recently
that I really liked, this is all Japanese,
like, I recently watched Despicable Me Too.
It was one of my favorite animas of recent.
And I was like, that completely, hold up.
It made me, it made me realign this whole argument
of like, is this anime, is this not?
I'm like, this guy dead ass, this otaku,
self-proclaimed attacker, just told me,
despicable me is a good anime.
I'm like, you know what, why are we arguing?
I think it's a stupid argument as well.
Yeah, yeah.
Just killed the argument.
It's literally just like the West versus the West.
Yeah, I was, yeah, it's like,
we made this argument out of nothing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The Japanese are like, we're not, we're not part of this argument at all.
It's that Simpsons picture where, like, the people
are surrounding the two monkeys fighting.
That's, that's the Japanese watching anime fans argue about if this is anime or not.
Yeah, it just felt like we were like,
this is how all religious fighting started, right back in, like, the 100th century.
We just made, we just made an argument.
Out of nothing.
Yeah.
Because, yeah, because I mean, fucking,
you ask a Japanese person, Monster Zink, Shrek,
it's all anime.
It's just crazy to me.
Because in Japan, anime just means animation.
I've never just had like, fucking hit by a truck
when he said, despicable me was an anime.
It hit me, man, real, like, fuck.
I was like, this man's built difference saying that,
yeah.
Would have been a different story if it was like,
the minions are my wifu.
Like, that would have been different.
Dude, I don't know, I don't know why they're obsessed with minions here.
They're obsessed with minions in Japan.
It's fucking everywhere.
I hate it.
So we visited Joey,
new apartments like last week.
Yeah.
And Joey's, just like detour.
Yeah, Joe, it'll get back on topic
because he was showing us around
and he shows us into the last room
and he's like, oh, do you guys want a free gift?
I was given a free gift from the moving department.
Do you guys want it?
And we're like, sure, Joey, what is it?
Dead ass just brings out this massive minions mini fridge
and expects us to take it.
And he takes this thing out and we're just looking at Joey
being like, Joey, what do we wanna do with this?
What are we gonna do with this?
And he was like, maybe we can put it in the trash taste studio.
Like Joey, the trash taste studio isn't your dumping ground.
I have a gift is roughly translated to,
I need to get rid of my trash.
Please take it.
I will pay money.
Because that's, I guarantee, that's what they did to Joey.
They were like, oh, Joey, Joe, I know we're moving
all the stuff for you, but here, have a free gift.
Have a Minions, mini Frisch.
And they're like, thank God we finally got rid of that shit.
We're doing you a favor.
It was despicable.
Oh my God.
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Back to the episode.
Speaking of another anime
that has like really unique voice actors
in their cast, are you guys excited for Eden?
Yeah, I am actually.
That is like one that I saw little bits and pieces of it.
I mean, I knew of it because a boy
My boy Kevin is doing the soundtrack.
Shout out to our boy.
Hey.
We're just simping, all right.
Yeah, I'm pretty excited for it.
I mean, it's one of the things that wasn't really
on my radar massively.
It was just like, I know Kevin's doing the soundtrack.
I'm probably gonna watch so I could be like, great job, Kevin.
Yeah, I wasn't excited until I saw the clips that we were shown,
which is by the time this podcast comes out,
the entire series would have already been released.
But from the clips that we were shown,
I was genuinely surprised how excited for this I was.
I wasn't that excited before
because I didn't really know what it was about
or how good it was gonna be.
All I know were the names involved.
And what stood out to me was, of course,
Kevin doing the soundtrack.
So of course I was always going to watch it.
But then the cast list got released
and people like David Tennant are in it,
Neil Patrick Harris.
Yeah.
I was like, what is going on?
I love it, Smurfs.
Sorry.
My favorite movie.
My favorite movie.
Yeah, it looks really good.
I mean, the clips we saw as well,
the animation looked really fucking good.
Yeah, like the way they matched the 3D
with the amazing 2D backgrounds.
Yeah, fucking amazing.
And again, the music was just fucking banging.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know what else to say.
I kind of want to just wait till I watch it.
I don't want to get too hyped for it just in case.
Yeah.
But it looked good.
I mean, it's literally out this week.
Is it really?
I feel like it's going to be a seven out of ten for me.
Really?
I feel,
I get that vibe.
Maybe, maybe.
I get that vibe.
It depends because it depends if it's like how it's going to play out,
whether it's going to be one long series,
because it's a four episode series.
So is it going to be only for,
four episodes or is it gonna be like kind of like a movie miniseries kind of thing?
That's what I wanna know.
I'm hoping it fucks me up, you know, makes me very emotional.
Yeah.
But I've a feeling that play it really safe.
It's gonna be quite like a safe story.
Yeah.
I just got that vibe from the clips we watched.
So we'll see.
I got that vibe, so I was, I was gonna feel things
by the end of it.
And yeah, the same way I did in the end of Monsters Inc.,
you know, I feel like that's the- What are you talking about?
Well, when they finally, you know,
they got rid of Randall, then,
They're rascal.
And they say goodbye to Boo.
Yeah, yeah, they say goodbye.
It's very emotional.
No, it was, actually, that's a terrible example.
I was just like,
if it's anything like Monster Zing,
I'm gonna be happy as fun.
I'm only thinking of great movies right now.
I don't say, the Incredibles, I'm like, no, that's fantastic.
Yeah.
Like the end...
I feel like these are the movies that have just been memed so much
that you forget.
But they actually banged.
They're actually really good fucking movies.
Why is it so hard to think of like subpar movies?
Like the ending of Mulan 2, straight to DVD.
I did.
I haven't watched it either.
I didn't even know there was a Moulin 2.
There's a Moulin 2.
Oh my God.
But the point is, is that I feel like it,
again, I want it to be a super emotional fucks me up,
but I just kind of got the feeling it looked really safe.
But again, I hope it does.
Yeah, I'm just wondering,
because it was a Netflix adaptation,
was it cast first in English,
or was it dubbed first in English?
Because that's what really...
I thought it was an original story.
I have a feeling it might have been cast first in English.
Yeah, because these are some big fucking names
fucking names to put behind an anime.
And you don't normally see these names
unless it's like a Ghibli movie
where Disney is dubbing it, right?
So that's what I'm most interested about.
Because we talked about how, you know,
in which order it gets dubbed really does, I feel,
affects how a dub feels.
Well, it depends, well, what language
is the script written in?
Yeah, exactly.
That's the big question.
Yeah.
Because you can't really write two scripts
simultaneously that are like one to one.
Yeah.
So it's...
Oh, especially when it comes to like English and Japanese
where it's like fundamentally differing.
Yeah, where the sentence structure is opposite at times.
Yeah, I think the more I learn Japanese,
the more I appreciate what translators have to do,
and especially when it comes to localizing a dub,
by the same time, the more I understand Japanese,
the more I'm just like, man, this just doesn't give,
like, I get the localization thing,
but it's just sometimes a sentence just doesn't give me
the same feeling when I'm reading in English
versus hearing it in Japanese.
Yeah.
I think this is why when you first start out
as an anime fan, you really see,
start to get into it, you go up this thing where you're like,
I only want pure 100% translation.
That's all I want.
Don't fucking, don't you dare change any of the meanings
of the words.
I think when you get into it more, and you start,
you start watching a lot more anime, and then it becomes
a bit tedious to watch a bit anime, and you just kind of want
to watch it dubbed.
You kind of start to appreciate it when they appreciate it
when they just localize it and they do it well.
Yeah.
Well, it's also the fact that sometimes there are just some,
you know, phrases and like, you know,
meanings that just don't translate at all.
Right, again, I mean, like,
one of the best dubs of all time, Bacchanow.
Like there's a lot of sentences that were just like
changed to an extent where it's not even remotely
what the guy said.
Yeah, but it's the same.
It makes sense contextually.
Yeah, it's the same kind of feeling,
but they've, instead of playing it super safe,
they were like, no, no, we think we could improve this
for an English audience, which is a bold thing to do,
you know, and we've had a lot of failures.
Yeah, we've had a lot of things that have gone wrong.
A lot of questionable ones, yeah.
But I do really appreciate when it's done right.
And I appreciate it more so than an attempted translation
because I feel like the actors have a way harder time
delivering Japanese dialogue, essentially.
I mean, that's what they do.
Yeah, because it's really hard to also perform
directly translated to Japanese dialogue
to make it sound natural in English
because there's sometimes where it's like,
that doesn't sound like something someone would say in English.
Yeah. You know?
Like I especially felt that more when I,
because like, when I did like a bit of translation work
during like school and stuff like that
and I like learned linguistics and stuff,
like that's where I was like,
because I also used to be like,
how hard could it be?
just like direct translate it, you know,
to get the meaning across.
But then when I actually started doing it,
I was like, oh no, you just can't.
Like it's not a matter of like preference
or anything like that, it's just like you physically can't.
There were just some Japanese like ways of saying things
that were you just like, if I did directly translate it,
it would just be a bunch of words.
Yeah, what's weird.
I think because I don't know if,
even though I spoke two languages from birth,
I always thought as languages like,
they're all just the same thing.
said in different ways.
But then like, if that makes sense,
where everything can be one to one translated.
No, no, I get what you mean.
Every meaning can be expressed in another language.
Yeah, absolutely.
And I think because we've been spoiled,
because things have been a whole life,
we've just had things that have been translated.
Yeah, been translated English, so we've never known
what the other side is like.
It's English, it's been translated for us.
And even, again, even though I spoke two languages,
I could never wrap my head around this concept
until I started learning Japanese, where I was like,
oh, it's just like, it's like another planet,
where it hasn't even touched anything.
I don't know how to describe,
describe this like mental.
It's so hard to describe for someone
who only speaks one language, right?
Because I remember the first time I noticed this
was I was watching a Thai film with Sydney, right?
And I, you know, she obviously had English subtitles on
and as someone who speaks both Thai
and can read English.
It was really distracting, one because it felt like
I was hearing something and seeing something
and they both meant the same thing,
but they felt different from me.
Yeah.
It's this, it's this,
this language dissonance that I can't quite describe, right?
But it's something that I feel like having now
trying to learn a language that, you know,
part of a culture and part of like an entire country's,
you know, way of thinking and culture is just ingrained
into a language.
There's just so much deeper than just I say one thing
and means another thing.
Like I would say that depending on what language I speak,
my personality kind of shifts as well.
Yeah, definitely.
It's a different, it's a different kind of way of thinking.
when you're speaking another language.
It's so hard to describe for anyone who only speaks one language,
but anyone who does speak two languages
will probably understand that you probably have
a slightly different personality speaking one language
compared to another because-
I apparently have a completely different personality
when I speak Japanese compared to English.
You're a lot softer, I'd say.
Yeah, yeah, you're a lot softer.
What in English or Japanese?
Japanese.
Really? I think so.
I always thought it was the opposite.
I don't know.
Maybe, I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
But like I also realize as well,
because you know, sometimes you're in class
or whatever, you're asking,
oh, what does, how do I say this in Japanese?
Like, no, you can't, you can't say that in Japanese.
Doesn't exist in Japanese.
Yeah, it's not a concept.
Yeah, they've never thought of that.
Yeah.
Oh, God, you just fucking, like, flashback to me in school,
everyone being like, how do you say fucking Japanese?
Who?
Like, yeah, how do I explain to these things?
Yeah, and then like, I realized,
because Welsh and English,
because although they are entirely different languages
and everyone thinks, oh, they're just,
Well, Welsh is just another version of English.
It's like completely different.
It's, you know.
But you're in the UK and in the speaking country.
Like German is closer to English than Welsh is.
And it's the reason why I think that I never had this realization before
was because it's the culture that you grew up in.
And because the countries have a similar culture now, at least, in the modern day,
the concepts do sort of translate because we've made them translate.
Like we've made the concepts are felt by both.
And so that there's translatable.
There isn't like the cultural gap.
Right, right, because the cultural gap is like inherently,
there's just sayings and stuff that will never ever have a meaning
no matter how much you try and translate them.
No.
Because it's just an inherent, it's a feeling and it's a,
I don't know, this is just a weird, the concept
that we're going down and it seems so obvious.
None of us are linguists.
This is all just our thoughts from learning a different language
from speaking multiple languages.
But I think the best thought experiment I can think of is like,
anyone who speaks English, like, how would you explain
the concept of the word fuck?
to someone who doesn't speak English
and someone who didn't grow up here.
Yeah.
That's like it's, it's, so I didn't,
I don't even know where I would begin to start,
you know, like, like,
like if you didn't, if you didn't,
if you don't know, like,
you know, if you didn't grow up in the culture,
if you didn't grow up with people saying it around you,
see, hearing that word everywhere,
I'm just like, how do I explain the right way
to use the word fuck?
I mean, I literally made a video with,
because they made an entire textbook
purely for the word fuck.
Yeah, I've seen it's like,
it's like a 70 page text
that goes through all the different ways you can use fun.
And like, I thought it was a gag at first when I bought it.
But then when I actually started reading, I was like,
okay, that's how you explain it.
Apparently there is a way to explain it.
It just takes 70 pages.
And the fact that it takes 70 pages just shows
how complicated it is, even though for us,
it's just second nature and it just makes sense, right?
And like the opposite can be said for like Japanese to English, right?
Like, how do you explain to an English speaker
what Yoroshku means?
Yeah, I mean, it's like, it's a purely cultural,
thing that like it makes complete sense in Japanese.
But then every time, like every time in anime,
they say like, Yoroshu, there's always a different way
of that someone's translating.
Yeah, I mean, it's a different way to translate
depending on the context of the scene, right?
Yeah, yeah, context of what he's saying it.
And like saying, I guess so.
Like, oh, I guess so.
It's like, it's not a thing in Japanese.
You can't translate it.
It's not even in Welsh, it's not a thing.
Like it's such an English thing that,
because none of the words mean what they mean altogether.
Yeah, yeah.
It's a weird concept that we just make up.
We do that with a lot.
I find that she fascinating, dude.
Bussin. Bussin. Bussin.
The fuck, who the fuck is there?
I literally just learned that word today.
Man, I can't even keep up on my own language.
How the fuck are Japanese people meant to keep up
with my language, right?
But going back to anime.
Yeah, going back to anime.
Again, I appreciate working so much more.
Obviously, I don't know if you,
I watched like two episodes of Yaskay.
That was pretty good.
the voice acting I really enjoy.
I need to watch that as well.
From two episodes, I wasn't really sold on the story.
Again, I knew about the, if you don't know about Yaske,
the plot is essentially Nobanaga,
way back in the Edo period, had-
Singulka period.
Singokka period, sorry,
Singokovirid had just met a black guy at a market
and was like, I want him to fight for me.
And he was like one of his-based
as a real person as well.
Yeah, and was one of his closest, like, allies, I guess.
And the story kind of expelled,
expands on it, but I saw a bunch of this on YouTube.
And I thought this would be a fucking badass anime.
Shit, you're not like two weeks later.
Got it announced on Netflix.
And I was like, wow, I guess I should start wishing for things.
Yeah.
It was really, it really, I highly encourage you to go read up about it.
It's super interesting and you just wouldn't expect it.
It's also done by LeShon Thomas.
Yeah, I don't know who the animation studio is.
Mapha.
Oh, is it Math.
But I do think that if you want to learn,
this is not like the best,
at explaining, at least from the first two episodes,
I was like, this is wildly different from,
because there's like, you said there was like magic,
there's magic, there's mecks and stuff, and it's like,
I'm like, I'm pretty sure that didn't exist in feudal Japan.
Well, yeah, I mean.
That was literally the Sean Tom's going, fuck it.
Well, yeah, I get it, you're in animal.
Go crazy with it.
Yeah, exactly.
In some aspects, I'm also like,
this is such a fucking badass story by itself,
that it doesn't need anything at it.
It's so god dead, like, the best parts of like,
again, I've only watched two out of six,
The best parts, the first two episodes,
where the parts were like pre,
because there's a time skip, pre time skip
where there's like no magic or shit
where he should fighting sword to sword.
And it should man to man combat,
it's so goddamn good and the story
and it builds on all the, obviously,
because you know, back then,
got me a lot of issues with race with that stuff.
Yeah, of course.
They weren't too happy about it
when Nobunaga was like, this is my best friend.
You know, and building on that was so interesting.
And I thought like the best parts of anime with that.
And again, yeah,
I, the story is just so cool.
Like, go and read up about it,
cause there's tons of YouTube videos about it.
I actually, I actually like went and like fucking research.
It's so fucking cool.
Like the real life, Yaskia, just cause like,
I had no fucking idea.
It's a badass story.
Oh yeah, it's fucking badass.
Yeah.
It's like, it's so bizarre that it could be fictional.
Do you do you feel like the meck and magic aspects
added to that story or do you think it felt out of place?
But me personally, I didn't really enjoy it.
Like I wanted, I was hoping you just hope you just wanted the story.
You just wanted to like a samurai Champlain
style like kind of right.
Yeah.
But then again, like,
is that historically accurate?
Well, I mean, they were
that break dancing samurai
back in the magic and mex and samurai.
Again, the music and the first two episodes
is pretty fucking good.
Yeah, exactly.
It's really good.
The voice acting, top fucking notch.
Even the Japanese, it's really good.
And like, you know, even in the Japanese,
Yaske is played by a black Japanese guy.
Oh, okay.
That's awesome.
It's normally not on the priority list for Japanese.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, it's really cool seeing that, you know?
Why wouldn't you want that?
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, everything else about it,
I was digging.
Everything, you know, I haven't really been motivated
to watch the rest of it.
Right.
I think that's just because the me
is gonna put me off in the magic and stuff.
I mean, the short clips I watched of it was,
fuck, it's pretty good.
Like, I didn't realize it was like gonna be
that fucking bloody and gory as well.
Oh dude, it's good.
Like some of the scenes like reminded me
of like a 90s oVA, like ninja scroll.
Like levels.
Yeah, it was like, kill bill,
ninja scroll like levels of like, oh, oh,
that's, oh, that's brutal.
It's so good.
I love it.
Yeah.
Yeah, I still haven't seen it, but I don't check it out.
I will definitely check it out.
You'll know if it's for you in the first two episodes.
Because I really like the Sean Thomas's work anyway,
so I was gonna watch it.
It's just hard to find time with all the fucking anime
are in the season and everything, right?
Which you two don't know about.
I can't relate.
I've been meaning to watch a bunch.
I've been meaning to watch 86.
86 is actually really, really good.
I probably say that's my favorite.
Oh, I can't say favorite.
It's hard.
It's definitely top three of my favorite anime out.
this season right now.
And it just feels good to have an original mecha show
that just gives me the same feeling
as like some of the OG meca shows
that made me really, really like the genre.
Because it feels like it's been so long
since we've just had a non-Gundum, non-code Gias
or non-big franchise mecha show that has actually been really, really good.
Because most of the mecha shows,
I remember that's been coming out recently,
have either been like Darling in the Franks
way I get invested and it kind of does shit
that falls flat or like,
I really enjoyed grid.
And then trigger is like, let me introduce this.
Yeah.
Well, then you've had things like SSS Gridman,
which fucking amazing show, but it's like,
it's a Mecca show, but it's also a bit Tokasatsu,
so it's not like, it's like a Crossbead.
It's not like a Vanilla Maker show, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Vanilla Mecca, where it's just Mecker and that's it.
Yeah, but 86, you know,
gives me the same feelings of when I was,
when I will first watch Code Gias,
Areka 7, all the mecks that I watched
in the mid 2000s that really made me love the fucking genre.
It's still early days.
I don't know if it's gonna be like 24 episodes
or 12 episodes where there's gonna be a complete story.
I'm really hoping so, but it's just really, really good.
I mean, do you know, do you know the story of it at all?
I don't wanna know anything.
All I've heard that it's good
and I'm gonna watch it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just going to a blind is the best way I think.
I watched The Way of the Husband on Netflix as well.
Way of the House husband.
That's it, yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I enjoyed it a lot.
I thought it was very funny.
I haven't had an anime, maybe laugh out loud constantly.
It's funny.
It's hilarious, it's fun.
For like two hours.
I mean, it's, I thought it was gonna be like 10 episodes,
24 minutes, but it's like five episodes
of like 12, 15 minutes.
Yeah, I only saw three episodes.
I was like, I got the rest of the season to binge.
I didn't know it was only five episodes.
It's five episodes.
Okay.
I kinda suck that it literally just, like, it was just ended.
It was like, this is the last skit.
It's stuff, bye bye.
And then it was like, there was no ending or anything.
It was like, see you next time or anything.
And it was just like, okay, skid over, go the fuck home.
Get out of here.
Because each of the chapters in the manga
really, really short.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, maybe like five, six pages, like max.
Well, I thought the pacing was fantastic.
Yeah.
I know obviously it caused a lot of controversy
with the animation.
Yeah. I saw a lot of people claiming on Twitter.
Ah, I couldn't decide.
I flip flopped.
There was some sketches where I felt they did it really good.
Yeah. And there was somewhere I'm like,
holy fuck, this was so lazily done.
Right. And it depended on the sketch.
Well, I think it just went down to the classification
because I think we've briefly talked about this
and trash tastes after dark,
but like my opinion of it was that it's not
much an anime in the traditional sense
where it's basically just a motion comic.
It is just a motion.
I wish it was labeled that and advertised as that.
Yeah, but I feel like,
if you've labeled it as motion comic adaptation,
then I think less people would have been interested in it,
right? Unfortunately.
Unfortunately.
But then also you set this expectation
that this is gonna be a thing that might happen.
Yeah, because I feel like it was that
and it being on Netflix as well,
Netflix really picking this up,
which gave it like people preconceived expectations.
Because to me, I watched it.
I thought it was funny as fuck.
I thought the animation worked for some of the jokes.
Again, like, it's up there with like,
I thought it was just as funny as like Sakamoto for me,
if not funnier.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, it was so goddamn funny,
and it scratched that itch that I didn't know I was longing for.
Yeah.
Well, I was, every single episode,
I was fucking cackling, laughing out loud.
It's like that weird, like surrealist comedy, right?
It's so good.
You just don't know what's, what he's gonna say next.
No, yeah, yeah.
And every time you feel like you figured out
how absurd he is, he just does something else.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
If you haven't watched it, please go watch it.
It's just about like a Yakuza member who gets married
and straightens out and it's become a housewife.
Yeah.
House husband.
And yeah, it's just really funny.
But it would have been a like,
it would have been a nine or a 10 for me if, again, like,
I don't know if I don't really like the,
the motion comic style.
Well, would you, do you think it would have been funnier
with, say, just mediocre adaptation?
Like, mediocre animation, solely.
Genuinely, yeah.
Because there was so little animation on it anyway.
And there's just times I'm like,
I wish they just did a little bit on this
just to help sell the joke.
I feel like the lack of animation
helps sell some jokes, if anything.
I agree, I agree.
Just because some of it just looked ridiculous.
And that to me just made it more funny.
But imagine this anime in like Nietzschejo style.
Yeah, but like name another comedy anime
that's on Nietzschejo level.
There isn't, but I'm just saying like if you had the choice.
No, no, if I had the choice between that,
I'd always go for fucking Nietzschejo animation, even like Konasuba.
Even like Konasuba, I think a lot of people underestimate
how good the character animation in Conno Coober is.
That really sold so much of the voice acting performance
where a lot of other comedy anime,
I feel have fallen flat because you have amazing voice acting performance,
you have amazing source material,
and the animation is just like the most okay.
Okay animation that really does nothing
to enhance the source material.
Yeah, maybe I'd be too hard on it, I don't know.
I think I was just shocked at how little there was.
Yeah, whereas with the house husband,
it had amazing voice acting, obviously,
had amazing source material.
And I feel like, because
they didn't try, it kind of like suited that comedy style perfectly, right?
And I feel like to me, if you couldn't have amazing animation,
I would have preferred to have, like, just not even like bad animation,
just like a very unique style of limited animation
that really helps sell some of the weirder
and more ridiculous parts of the manga,
because it is a ridiculous manga.
And I feel like the animation style helped accentuate
some of the ridiculous moments to me.
Yeah, there's some moments where I was like,
yeah, okay, this joke works with this animation,
And those others where I'm like,
this really needed more to help sell some of this joke.
I don't know that personally.
I feel like maybe a mix could have like really propelled it.
Did you, have you seen clips of the,
there's a Japanese live action adaptation.
I have not.
I've seen it.
It's so bad.
It's so funny.
It's like.
It's tragic.
Wait, what's that describe it to me?
It's just like, okay, the main guy,
it looks like a cosplay.
It doesn't look like.
It is a cosplay.
Yeah, like it looks like a cosplay,
not like an actual.
actor or anything.
Like the guy isn't like built enough.
It is quite scary.
It is like formal Alkimos live action levels.
Oh my.
Yeah.
And then his friend in the anime,
who is really young and supposed to be like
the young gang member.
Yeah.
Looks really fucking old and like.
I mean, I didn't watch it like fully.
I only watched like clips of it on YouTube
and I'm just like, oh no.
It's bad.
Cause I, there's like a, there's a,
I watched the same skit, both of them compared.
Yeah.
And like the, the, the humor just wasn't nearly as good
in live.
I don't know why, I feel like they didn't,
because with animation you could resell the absurdity
and in the live action one.
That's the point, right?
Yeah, yeah, but they didn't work very well.
Yeah, yeah.
I feel like, and also Japanese acting and TV shows,
I don't know how they are so bad,
but I've never seen Japanese acting in a TV show
and been like, that's fantastic.
Unless it's like Ken Watanabe.
Literally, it's like, he's the only one.
I feel bad saying that, because I feel like
there's such a broad statement,
but I've watched so much Japanese TV
and all the drama acting is appalling.
is appalling.
Yeah, it's not good.
It's so bad.
Yeah, especially in like the live action,
like, especially when a live action
anime adaptation of a Japanese TV show
or a Japanese anime, it's always,
it's so weird seeing live action actors
try to act like anime characters
or doing like the anime style, I think.
Cause you watch like Korean dramas
and Korean adaptations of stuff,
and it's so much better.
Like, I watched like Sweet Home,
the webtoon adaptation into Netflix,
and the actors were fucking amazing,
There's a live action out there's a live action.
There's a live action.
And the actor's like really fucking good.
Like every single time I've watched a Korean movie
or Korean drama, I'm always so impressed at how fucking good.
Not the same that the acting is a bad,
but I just thought for some reason I'm like,
oh, I've seen Japanese acting, it's gonna be over the top
dramatic all the time, it's like,
I mean, I feel like especially in recent years,
Korean movies and Korean dramas and shows
have just like, they are like,
they are way ahead of like Japanese
J dramas and J movies.
I mean, there's so many movies where I'm like,
fucking competitive English, like shits on them.
Like some of the, like, old boy is like,
I love that movie.
Fucking, that's actually based on a manga, did you know?
I didn't know that.
Oh, really?
Yeah, old boy was originally a manga.
Oh, I got adapted into a Korean movie.
And like, oh, that's cool.
That is, like, one of my favorite movies
at all time.
Yeah, it's amazing.
The acting is so goddamn good in that movie.
I fucking.
The cinematography is fantastic.
And that's one of the greatest foreign films
of all time.
And it's so good.
You know, it's up there,
with like parasites is like, to me,
it's one of the best Korean movies I've seen.
Even though I've seen a lot,
there are so many good Korean movies, right?
And I feel like people are now just figuring out that man,
Koreans make good movies.
They make, yeah, they're very good.
Train to Busan as well.
I remember the first time
I'm watching Train to Busan, I was like,
I've seen zombie movies, I know how this works.
And for some reason, it didn't do like,
on like a, you know, on paper,
it doesn't do that much different
to every other zombie movie,
but it's just so fucking good.
And I can't pinpoint why it was so good,
but it's just.
I don't know what it is, like when I watch Japanese TV,
I feel like it's like a pantomime.
You know what I mean?
It does feel like, it feels like that level of acting
where it's like, is there somebody behind me?
I better not look.
And then, whoa.
It's like always like that.
I feel like with Japanese acting,
it's very reminiscent to add anime,
or anime acting, which anime acting works for anime,
but it doesn't work for live action acting at all.
Yeah, well, I was asking some friends.
I'm like, oh, I was like,
because I was watching with them,
like, oh, are they famous?
Are they famous?
They're like, oh, yeah, they're a famous voice actor.
And it's like when you're a famous voice actor,
you can get roles in TV shows.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's kind of strange because it's normally the other way around.
Yeah, right?
With Western stuff, and it's just odd to think,
because I feel like, you know, as someone who does voice acting,
it does not translate to the, like, IRR like thing.
Like, it's a completely different skill set.
Yeah, I mean, you understand the fundamentals of acting,
but, you know, can you hit the mark, you know?
You're not being told how to walk.
You're not being told how to act physically.
That's what you do have to learn.
That is separate.
Yeah, there's a lot you don't think about.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it's interesting.
I just wonder why.
I sit there and I'm just confused.
I'm like, why is Japanese acting like generally not as good?
And not saying that there's no, there's zero Japanese good actors.
Just saying in general, the TV production is pretty lackluster.
I think maybe it's because like,
they don't really think of like the outside of Japan movie industry
as much of a competition.
Like they might think it's like, because you know,
with like, you know, Hollywood,
or English-speaking films, right?
Like, you're not only competing with Hollywood,
but you're competing with literally
every other English-speaking country, right?
Every other English-speaking production.
Whereas I feel the Japanese film industry
is kind of in its own bubble.
But they're kind of just like-
No driving force.
There's no like driving force or like threat
to make them be like, we gotta step up at a game.
Or like, or maybe the fact that like,
they're probably like just unaware, right?
They probably just think like, well, you know,
English-speaking productions
and like other productions that aren't Japanese.
do this in this way.
But for us, this works without our type of audience.
So there's no like, they probably don't even think
this is bad acting, right?
I'm sure people are gonna come up, be like,
there are so many good Japanese films, you know.
Yeah, no, there are.
There are a lot of good Japanese films.
I mean, you know, in general.
But it's a lot rarer to find a really, really good Japanese film.
They come far and few in between.
Yeah, yeah.
And especially in like J-Dramas, I feel.
J-dramas is even hot.
Holy fuck.
I mean, that's where you really see.
That's where you see the pinnacle.
Yeah.
I feel like the right way to describe J dramas
from like the majority I've watched is just,
they are very campy.
Yeah, that's what I mean.
It's very campy, right?
Everything is fucking over the top.
And you know, there's, there's an audience for that
and there's like a, you know, there's,
you know, I do enjoy some J dramas,
but it's, it's less of, I think this is a good show
and more just like, I can just get behind this show.
You know, I like whatever source material is adapting.
And also, I don't, frankly, I don't give a fuck
about cinematography, right?
Right, I don't really care.
too much. I'm not very picky, you know.
Well, that's good because Jay Drama has zero.
Well, Jay dramas, they shoot it like a fucking,
like a daytime TV commercial.
Why does it look like that?
Like I never thought I would give a shit about that
until I watched Jay's- But that's the point.
That's the point.
You don't give a shit about cinematography
into you something, you see something
that has no cinematography, right?
It's like, what, are you gonna fucking advertise
to me a plunger that does four in one
any second now, I'm waiting for it.
So how it's shot, it's ridiculous.
I don't know why it looks like that.
It's so weird.
Yeah, I feel I've seen some
some YouTube videos with better cinematography
than some of the stuff out there in J-Dramers right now.
Chris Broaden Japan channels.
Yeah, 100%.
That'll make Chris stay, that.
Yeah, that'll make up for the lack of his signature.
Yeah, I mean, I hate shitting on it
because I don't really know, I don't really understand
why, I don't really know if they care,
I don't really know if there's a want to improve.
I just, genuinely, I just don't feel,
I just don't think the audience is there.
No, no, the audience doesn't give a shit.
Well, it's normal, I mean,
I mean, the majority of the population here is older, so.
So generally, to be fair, I have seen a bunch of J dramas
where the cinematography is absolute ass,
but I've still enjoyed it because the story
was just genuinely really, really good.
And it wasn't until like, it was like an afterthought
of like, oh yeah, that was a good J drama,
but the cinematography was shit.
I saw this one and it was like,
I think it was like a James Bond show,
and it was like this Japanese guy looked like Japanese George Clooney.
It was really cool.
Really?
I was like, holy shit, this guy's hot.
I think I know who you're talking about actually.
He looks kind of Western.
He looks western, but he's, but I looked it up
and he's like 100% Japanese.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
Like George Clooney, if he was Japanese.
I have no idea who you're talking about.
I don't know his name, but.
And he was just like a no-nonsense attitude guy.
He's like, I'm coming to get the information
and just like beat this guy up,
but with just terrible lighting and cinematography.
Right, yeah.
But it was like really, I don't know why I'm talking about this.
I was just fascinated by him.
I was like, that man's so goddamn hot, good for him.
I wish I was that.
Because I've always, because I've had like the movie experience of,
wow, this movie has fucking fantastic.
cinematic cinematography.
Yeah.
Unfortunately, the rest of the movie is shit.
You know?
Yeah, yeah.
What was that movie?
It was the something still water or something, where it's like,
um, it was originally supposed to be the Bioshock movie, but then they like changed it
halfway through.
What?
They were, I do not know.
I have no idea.
Yeah, let me look it up.
Yeah, I know exactly what it is.
But like the movie had like the most like amazing fucking cinematography.
It looked fucking incredible.
fucking incredible.
Like it was stylized perfectly,
really creepy scene of photography.
Yeah, look it up.
Yeah, I mean, I remember, a cure for wellness.
I haven't seen that movie.
Yeah, that was a movie.
Oh, that's a horror movie, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah.
That was apparently, that was originally supposed
to be the Bioshock movie.
And you can tell, nothing like Bioshock.
Yeah, no, obviously, they like completely changed the story.
That threw me off when you said,
it's meant to be the Bioshock movie.
And his, supposedly it was supposed to be the Bioshock
movie, but then something happened legal,
D-Ys, and they were like, all right,
Time to rewrite the story completely.
But like, when you just look at the cinematography
and like the sets and stuff like that,
I'm like, okay, I can kind of see what they were going for.
Like this looks cool, it's very stylized,
cinematography's great.
Unfortunately, the story was like, what?
Like, what the fuck is happening?
Nothing makes sense.
Characters were all shit.
So like, that's when I got to the point,
I was like, would I have preferred this movie
if it had shit cinematography but a good story
versus great cinematography but a shit story?
And this is like the animation verse,
versus story debate that anime fans go through, right?
Like, which do you prefer?
I mean, if you had to choose.
Story, story.
Story, but like, has to be well acted, you know.
You can't sell me on a bad story
with not with actors who don't sell the moment for you, right?
The room's pretty good.
Room is pretty good.
I mean, that's a masterpiece in the,
yeah, that's a unique exception.
But that's got brilliant acting.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
What a top grade actor is, Tommy was a,
yeah, I mean, no, because like,
I feel like I guess watching a lot of J-dramas reminds me
of like the old Thai soap operas I would see my mom watching
and I'm just like what the fuck is this mom?
Like what the hell are you watching?
I feel like that's-
I feel like that's just like genre of itself
where you got like the campiest most melodrama shit going on
and you don't know what's going on.
You see out of context clips.
I think even some Korean dramas do this as well,
it's just not as well known like I remember seeing one
clip where it was a Korean drama.
And when we're falling down the stairs.
No, that's the Bollywood one, right?
That's the Indian one.
The one I was thinking of where this woman,
this guy says something and this woman takes
this entire like fucking cabbage of kimchi.
I just slaps this guy.
And I just like, I just want to know the context of this.
That's so good.
Because in our context, it just makes no sense as it is.
We just have to remind our audience that this is a Korean production.
Bring out the kimchi.
Didn't like, didn't PewDiePie react to like a Bollywood clip?
And then there was like drama or something about it.
Like they like, I swear there was drawn.
I don't know if man, if I'm remembering this incorrectly.
But like he, there was like a clip that he reacted to.
And it was because there was like a reaction image
where she was like, and then it was like 20 shots
of it going like zooming in.
Yeah, it's the woman falling off like the balustrade, right?
Oh, I've seen that one.
And the guy's like slow motion trying to catch him.
But like it's like going back and forth and it's like,
this woman's been in the air for five minutes.
It's like, it's a second floor.
Why is the same?
This woman's like literally fucking air bending
one from my eyes.
Like zero jeez.
Everyone's just like watching it in slow motion.
It's fucking hilarious.
I love that.
I swear, I swear she got into some spat
or something because of it.
You keep talking.
Yeah, yeah.
No, that's what I would love to react
to Indian like soap operas out of context.
I feel like there's every other soap opera
and then there's just Indian soap operas, man.
Oh yeah, yeah.
They take campiness to the next level
and it's so amazing.
Have you ever seen like many Bollywood movies?
There was a period in my life where I tried to get into Bollywood movies,
but the problem is that there are so many fucking films in the Bollywood like scene.
Yeah, I didn't realize how many movies they made.
It's like they make like five, ten times as much as like Hollywood.
Yeah, something like that.
It's insane.
So I'm just like, I legitimately was like, where the fuck do even begin?
Because like I don't know anybody else who like has stepped into that territory.
So like my only other obvious,
was to like go on the internet, be like,
best Hollywood movies, right?
Top 10 Bollywood films of all time.
Thank you watch, Mojo.
Here's my watch list right now.
But then every fucking like top 10, top 50 list I saw
was just like all completely, there wasn't a single
like, oh, I saw that on this page.
It's all fucking different.
So I'm like, what, do I just have to like,
number one?
Yeah, do I literally just have to like,
Do I literally just have to like,
That's a great movie, though.
Great movie, though.
Well, yeah, it's not Bollywood.
I remember when I like here, I'm like,
I like Sondog Millionaire.
That's good, it's good.
Yeah, so I'm like, do I just have to like bite the ball
and just like pick a random one
and just like hope that it's a good movie?
I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know.
Please let us know in the comments.
What's a good Bollywood film?
The only one I can remember that I watched,
that I think is really good.
There's a film called Three Idiots.
And the only reason I watched it was
because it was on the IMDB Top 100 at the time.
I was like, what is this?
And it's a concept, I feel like that was made for Indians,
right.
Because it's a con, it's a film, get this, about engineers.
I think it was like actual,
I can't remember if they were mechanical engineers
or electrical engineers.
It doesn't matter, they were engineers.
I can't, it was just so weird seeing this engineering movie
and then out of nowhere they just break out into song and dance.
And I just, like, there's nothing I hate more than fucking musicals.
I cannot stand.
You know, like musicals?
I hate musicals.
I actually agree with the comedy.
Really?
Yeah.
It's like if I want a musical,
I'll fucking pause the movie and go on Spotify
and play death punk for four minutes and I'll put it.
I don't get in the way, man.
I hate, I hate musicals so goddamn much.
I cannot, I would rather do anything else except what's.
I'm like, I'm very hit or amiss with musicals.
Like a lot of musicals I'm just like, fucking whatever.
But then if you're like, like, I could watch like Rocky Horror,
like 30 times.
I feel like, to me musical works well on like, when it's a stage.
You know, when it's, when you're watching it lines.
It's a really, really amazing experience.
Like I remember watching Les Miserabs.
I'm sure I fucking butcher that for now.
Les Miserables.
Les Miserables.
I remember watching that in England
at the West End.
Fucking amazing experience.
And then I remember watching the movie
and I'm just like, this is really boring.
I don't know.
I watched it for the first time because, like,
pretty recently, just because Aki was like,
oh, you have to watch it.
It's great.
I'm just like, okay, well, you know,
I always give musicals a go, so it's whatever.
This might be the rare,
at time where like Rocky Horror where it's like,
oh, my fucking fall in love with it. I'm just like
God damn, they haven't stopped singing
for like two hours. It just feels like a
fucking quick time event. Like when we run
a musical. It's like, I guess I'll press X.
Fuck, I'll press X. It just feels like it doesn't
fucking end. It's like unskippable cutscenes and shit. It's like
get this shit out of here. Well, what I like about like
Rocky Horror for instance, right? Is that like one, it's
fucking weird. Two, it's
fucking Tim Curry in like
leggings, which is just like amazing
just conceptually. But like what I like about
Rocky Horror compared to like, say, like,
Les Miserab is like,
Le Miserab is just like 90% singing
and then 10% dialogue.
Whereas Rocky Horror is like 50-50.
So it's like you get the enjoyment
of like an actual movie, like type of story.
And then every now and then it goes into like song.
But when I'm watching a musical, I'm just like,
just get to the story.
Why am I here?
I don't care about this song and dance.
Just get to the story.
Give me the story.
The only time I actually think I liked musical was,
what is it, is a,
Because a little shop of horrors, right?
That has like a lot of music in it.
The one with the big plant.
Oh yes, yes, yes, yes.
That's musical, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think I like that,
because it made the thing fucking terrifying
when it started singing.
I was like, it sold me on the horror.
Because when this giant plant puppet started singing,
I was getting, fuck, as it like a 15 year old kid,
I was like, holy-old kid, like, oh, shit.
It's like, yeah, kind of guy, right, yeah.
I was like, oh, it's terrifying.
Did you ever watch Bugs Mealone as a kid?
What?
Bugs-Malone.
I know the name.
Yeah, I don't know anything about it.
Yeah, it's, uh, I can't remember because I only have vivid memories of watching it as a kid.
All I know it was like, it's like set in like, you know, in the prohibition era.
Right. And it's about a bunch of people running speakeasies. But for some reason, everyone, every one of the gangsters who are, you know, who are in this movie, everyone's played by kids, right?
Oh. And when they have Tommy guns, instead of firing bullets, they fire like a cream pie. So whenever someone gets hit by cream pie in the face,
they're dead.
It's like thinking back as a kid,
it's the most like,
this is the weirdest fever dream
I'm describing right now,
but it exists, right?
It sounds like a David Lynch film,
you know, it's like that weird.
It sounds like on the same level
as there's, what are those fucking dogs
called the movies where they, like,
they just dub over dogs.
What?
It's literally like airbody or some shit.
It's like a whole fucking series.
Oh, like snow dogs.
That's it.
Yeah.
There sounds like that where they just fucking
dub over dogs doing shit.
I've been trying to find someone else in my life
who also has this vivid memory of watching bugs me alone as a kid.
Because I just want to reconfirm that I,
that this was real, that this was real.
It really happened.
I just need to know, okay?
And I, so far, I've, you know, maybe it was just my school thing.
Maybe it was a my generation thing.
I don't know, but I have not met a single other person,
IRL, who remembers watching bugs me alone.
So please comment section, if there's someone in the
the comments section who knows
and who has watched Buxie Malone before,
please, please tell me,
because I need to know I'm not fucking crazy,
I need to know this wasn't a men,
I need to know this wasn't a fever dream,
I need to know if this really happens.
Everyone in the comments just be like,
I have no idea, I have no way to talk about.
I don't have no fucking clue.
It was a musical, so.
It's a musical as well.
Yeah, that's why I remember it, it was a musical.
I sleep.
Real question though, did you guys watch
the cats movie?
No, I didn't, I saw half of it.
Why did you watch it?
Because I was just like,
because I, who doesn't look at that trailer
learn things, this looks like shit, I'm gonna watch it.
You know when you just see ads so often for something
that you've decided that you've decided
you're gonna dislike this thing before you can see anything.
That was me with cats, because it was just everywhere,
it was so obnoxious, and they do that thing
with like, this has never been done before.
Yeah.
This is literally never been done before.
Like they just say that about anything, like,
we've never had this, we've never experienced this.
We all felt amazing on the set.
Well, the thing is with cats-
I don't give a fuck.
Yeah.
The thing is with cats is that, I've seen it on stage before.
Yeah.
And like I actually thought, not my favorite musical,
but I was like, okay, out of all the musicals I've seen
on stage, it's pretty alright, it's pretty decent.
Like it's a good story, the songs are pretty alright.
But then when you watch that trailer
and you see the horrific things in that trailer,
you're just like, well, you have piqued my interest now.
I would, yes, fucking green screen, like huge artists
like on these like fucking cat, like,
basically these huge actors being furries.
I swear there was like really,
yes please.
I swear there was like really funny like cashed interviews.
Really?
Well, like the cast will like, oh, fucking no.
What do you want to say?
I love it when actors like give interviews
and they just fucking shit on what they're in.
All I hope is that.
There's something really cathartic about it.
And like, they're like, yeah, it sucks.
Like the fucking Robert Patterson one, right?
Yeah, the Robert Patterson one is like,
I can't fucking stand Twilight.
Like, Robert Patterson, please,
have we spoke about this before on the podcast?
We did this in private.
Yeah, I think we're talking about it in private.
Where like, Ronald Patterson hated being in Twilight
and his interviews about it are so fucking funny.
And please is well, going, like Daniel Craig.
Daniel Craig, yeah.
In James Bond.
Did we talk about this?
I don't remember.
Literally can't remember if we talked about this on the podcast.
Apologies have we said it already.
So we're leaving it together.
We must spoke about it on set, I think.
I can't remember.
Daniel Craig hates being in 007 and James Bond.
Yeah.
The interviews that he gave was so fucking funny.
Well, he did, he said, he did like a quote
where he said, like, I'd rather cut myself
than do another Bond film.
And then he did another book.
It's so funny.
It's just like.
It's so tragic.
It's like imagine getting hired back again
by the people you're just shitting on.
I would rather die than work for you again.
And they're like, let's get him back.
Let's get this guy back.
How out of options must they be to have to like bring
Daniel Craig back in?
They must have thrown so much money at that point.
Because I'm pretty sure you must have signed a contract before.
Otherwise, is like, really?
Yeah.
Because you know, if you brought you
I'm pretty sure that you're just like blacklisted
from Hollywood, right?
Cause that's why no one's like,
no one really breaks contract.
Either that or they must have given Daniel Craig
a fat fucking paycheck.
I'm sure they gave him a lot of money.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure they just gave him a lot of money.
Didn't they have to do something
because he like in the, which movie was it?
Was it, uh, what was the most recent film?
There was one after Skyfall, right?
Yeah, the one after Skyfall.
That was one after Skyfall?
Yeah.
God, I'm so behind on my bonnet.
Well, there was one where,
the casino, it was a casino scene, it's not casino where he,
he like, I was about to say.
I know that one,
specter, spectra.
Yeah, type in Daniel Craig gloves.
There was a thing where they had to like,
CGI, I think gloves on or off of him
because he just left them on because he liked them or something.
What?
Yeah.
No, no, no.
Yeah.
So yeah, he bought gloves before like filming and he really wanted,
he really wanted to wear them.
And so they had to.
He had to like, CGI the gloves off of him
because he wanted to wear them.
Is that right?
Can you Google it?
It was something like that he was so fucking done
with the shit that he impulse bought gloves
and was like, I'm wearing them on the film.
I don't give a fuck.
And they're just C.G.I. them off of him.
CJ artists is like cracking their necks,
being like, all right.
I couldn't do that just out of a feeling horrible
to the people who have to work on that CGI.
But you gotta respect the level of,
I don't give a fuck.
Yeah, that's just a new one.
level of just, yeah, just, you don't give a fuck.
You just fucking with-
Passive aggressive way of me, like, don't call me back.
Please.
You're literally on like a half a billion dollar movie
and you just don't give a fuck about wearing
your like $20, $200 gloves.
You're like, ah, who cares?
It's just, it's also just like the choice of gloves
as well, of all things you could have put on.
It's just like the biggest fuck you, right?
It's just, I don't know what about it.
It's just so cathartic to just hear this.
I don't know why.
It's so fun.
just hearing individuals be like,
fuck you big movie corporation,
I'm going to do what I want.
And then they just roll with it.
They're like, I guess we'll fix it in post.
Yeah, I guess we can't get him to take his gloves off,
you know?
Sky-Roy.
Yeah, okay, yeah.
And he's in the new one as well.
And I think the new one is supposedly his last one.
Yeah.
But it got delayed because of COVID.
So pretty sure that's what they said about Skyfall as well.
Yeah, yeah.
They said that about last like three films.
But they don't know who's gonna replace him.
Well, that's so weird, right?
Because I remember a time,
like, you know, in like the late 90s, early 2000,
where like I feel every James Bond movie,
there was a different James Bond.
No, they did like two or three, I think each at least.
But I feel like they were like replacing them
like quicker than Daniel Craig, right?
No, I mean, it's-
Piers Broson did a lot.
Pierce Broson did like five, yeah, yeah, maybe.
Yeah, but he probably also enjoyed it.
Unlike Daniel Craig.
Maybe you did, I think he got his paycheck
and he heated out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, is Daniel, what else has Daniel Craig done
apart from James Bond recently?
He's done a few pretty good films.
I can't remember any of the top of my head.
He did like, I really liked him in like Leia Cake.
Oh, Leia Cake.
That's a really British film.
That's, I completely forgot about that.
I like him in everything else, but James Bond.
I think he's really good in everything but James Bond.
Yeah, but I feel like in Leia Cake, he also just played Daniel Craig, right?
But he played it better.
He just kind of played James Bond in a different skin, you know?
It kind of very felt James Bond.
It was Daniel Craig playing James Bond playing Daniel.
playing Daniel Cron.
Yeah, I feel like James Bond is just an outdated archetype.
Like it does- I feel like it is as well.
You watch it nowadays and you're like,
they've tried their best to kind of inject.
Modernize it.
Yeah, but it still feels like when they're trying
to put like the playboy scenes in,
you're like, this is kind of cringe now.
I don't know why, but just seeing a guy just go,
yes, I'm going to fuck these two women.
It's like, all right, okay, sure.
We get it, man.
You get pussy.
So does everyone else, bro.
You don't have to brag about it.
I don't know, it just felt very like,
nowadays it just feels like, oh,
Oh, this feels kind of lame.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, it's a very stated archetype.
Like, I can't imagine anyone, like,
imagine if I'm just like, my name's Mani Tapo.
You can't Mani Tapo.
I mean, that's you, like, what the outfit?
With the bald and the glasses, right?
Yeah.
You're wearing the turtle neck?
Yeah.
Well, that's why I really enjoyed a Kingsman, right?
The name's job.
Steve Hand Jobs.
Well, Kingsman was good until the second movie.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, that's why I really liked the first movie,
because it completely just like,
almost made
It was really good, I really liked it.
And then it became the archetype.
And then it became the archetype.
Yeah, exactly.
So, that was the fuck did we get on about James Bond films?
I don't fucking, we're talking about musicals.
Oh, have you ever said?
I was thinking about musicals I actually liked.
The only ones I probably actually liked were
the South Park movie.
And, yeah, that is a good.
Did you guys ever see the Book of Mormon?
Life?
It's literally been the one, the musical that I've always wanted to watch.
Dude, that's a fucking amazing musical.
Yeah.
And the reason I like those musicals is the music is funny
and it plays off on a joke and it doesn't,
like I don't care about the story.
Me no, I don't care, I don't care about the story
of South Parks, I'm there for the jokes
and that helps out onto the jokes
and that's why it's the only musical I can get behind.
But yeah, I'm not really that much
of a Broadway or West End guy, so I've already seen a music.
You really, I thought you were, right, right?
You seem like a Broadway kind of gentleman.
Can't stop you from singing.
Do I seem like a theater kid to you?
Have you ever been tempted to go watch, like,
the anime like musicals.
Have you seen any of them?
Tempted?
Or they restarted the death note one, right?
Yeah.
How does that work?
How have been so tempted to go and watch it
just to say I went to go see a Death Note musical
or like the Prince of Tennis musical.
You know what?
Quick, Roger's in the book?
That idea wasn't in my head,
but now it is in my head.
Yeah, I really fucking want,
I've been trying to find people
to come with me to go watch
like any of the anime musicals
just because there's something,
There's something like defeatist about being like,
yeah, so I went to go watch the death no musical
by myself the other day, you know.
Just like, as you do on a Sunday.
Dude, I'd fucking do it.
Yeah, please.
Fuck that, I'll go by myself to watch the death night musical.
They had the My Hero Academia musical, didn't they as well?
Yeah, yeah, they did, they did.
I just, I'm, I'm, that idea wasn't in my head,
but now I'm just genuinely curious.
Well, how does that work?
How do you, how do you, how do you,
How do you adapt death note to a musical?
I like eating apples.
Die, die, die, die.
I feel like you'd have to be, I want it to be
in the style of like a Willy Wonka-esque, like original,
you know, like the ump-lumpur, just have Riyuk be like an umpulumpur.
Just have that kind of sing a song, you know.
I would like that.
Just all the shinigami's, like.
I'd like to think that the costume for Ryook is extremely poor as well.
Yeah.
It's just the shittest costume.
So it's literally a guy in like a few black stuff.
Does the guy like a gimp costumes?
Yeah, a gimp costume with like,
like he's just been like tard and feathered
and he's just kind of like overweight and he's like,
it's like smokers voices well.
He's like,
Corlera ring or this.
He's an apple and a cigarette.
Boy, it's just fucking William Defoe
without any makeup on it.
It's just William Defoe.
I don't know, William Defoe.
This comes out like, it is me rude.
I'd buy it.
He's very good actor.
Yeah, he could do it.
He's great.
If anyone could just stand there
and make me accept it, it's probably William Diffon.
Yeah, of course.
God, I'm just remembering the death note live action movie now.
Oh, he was the best part of the movie.
He was the best part of the movie.
He said four lines and that was in, unfortunately.
But he was good in those four lines.
How do we get onto this? How do we tangent so hard?
I don't know, I know. We're good at that.
So gentlemen, moving on though, this is now our last few moments
in the studio.
Yeah.
Yeah. This is the last episode of,
of season one.
I guess it is.
Is that how we're gonna call it?
I don't know if we're doing like season one
via studios or via the year.
I mean, either way, this is the end, right?
Cause I think we're like right on,
as we're recording this is like one year anniversary,
I'm pretty sure.
I'm pretty sure, I don't know.
So it's 53, right?
Yeah, it's not like that.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, that's 52 weeks in a year.
And the one over here?
Yeah, yeah, of course.
Yeah.
Yeah, wow.
I mean, it felt a lot longer than a year, to be honest.
I don't remember the studio being this full.
You know, I don't remember,
I don't remember what it looked like before.
It's scary going back to like episode one.
Yeah.
And being like, it doesn't look like the same room.
I'll tell you what, after you mentioned it
on the Trash Taste Awards,
I remember looking at the first episode again as well.
And I forgot that we originally had our camera
all the way back then.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it kind of looked like you were peeking through,
like, you know,
You're peeking through being like,
oh, what are they getting on to?
And now it just feels like way too close.
Hello, this is the new camera angle
that we changed to, you know?
What, like 30 episodes ago?
Yeah, it just feels, it just feels weird.
I forgot that we changed camera angles
and the different feeling that they gave off.
And yeah, like I'm impressed how many guests
we got this year as well.
Yeah, given the limited circumstances of Japan.
All nine of them.
Except for Chris, fuck Chris.
Yeah.
Yeah, but yeah, well, I'm sure Chris will be on again.
Yeah, of course.
No man, I'm sure Chris is gonna come knocking on.
Is he gonna be the first guest on in season two as well?
He said he wants to be.
So.
Just asserting dominance to every other guest.
I don't see why not.
Dead ass, what else is there to talk about with Chris?
What do you mean?
Just have Chris on.
Insanity in shoes.
Chris, Chris just makes funny moments by being on.
Read your bully Chris.
Chris bullies ours, you know.
It's a good dude.
I'm looking forward to what drip he's gonna be wearing next.
after winning laziest drip in season one.
You know, like, after that episode goes up,
he's gonna be like, oh, fuck, I gotta come with like a suit.
I told Chris, I was like, you won in the ward, by the way.
He's like, you want two awards?
No, no, no, no, no.
He said, I was like, oh yeah, you're one on the board.
He said, I was like, yeah, yeah, he goes,
just one.
And I was like, fuck off, Chris.
I'm like, fuck off.
Well, lucky for you, Chris.
I didn't tell about the second one,
so I'm surprised.
Yeah, yeah.
Brilliant, brilliant.
He won't find that out.
Yeah, he won't find that out until that's all that.
Oh my God.
Yeah, but I guess, yeah, I guess by the time you see us next week,
we'll be in a, hopefully, brand new setup.
Well, yeah, it'll be like a month for us,
but it'll be like one week for you guys.
It'll be this week for you guys, yeah.
Yeah, we want to remodel and change the setup a little bit,
get the angles different.
We're not gonna have like a completely different setup
right off the bat, I think.
It's gonna be similar to season one,
where we kind of grow our set as the season goes on,
You know, I feel I like that.
Well, you haven't decided everything, yeah, but...
We have no idea what the new set's gonna look like.
I wanna get all new figures.
That's what I want.
That involves having another Akihabra special,
which is gonna be pretty hard right now,
considering everything is unlocked down.
In future, in future.
So maybe you'll have to wait a little bit longer
compared to season one to get a new Akihaber special.
Yeah. But we do wanna do one in the future.
Um, apart from that, I don't know what other plans.
I'm just excited to show you guys like,
the new set that we have and having a proper trash taste office,
not just an apartment that we just remodeled into a set.
I mean, you guys will see it in the after dark blog.
I mean, like, speaking of like,
there'll be way more after dark content as well.
Yeah, we're gonna have two sets now,
so the after dark specials aren't just going to be
trash taste 1.5.
Well, yeah, I mean, that's the main,
I think it's one of the big reasons
while we want to move is just to allow us to make more,
yeah, more space, more content.
Because right now it's, you know, I mean,
you can,
and make content in this room,
I'm sure we could, but it's one of those things where-
But at what cost?
Well, yeah, when you're in a room that you just despise,
because it's too crammed.
You don't wanna make, like, stuff.
You don't feel creative, you don't feel like you wanna do anything.
Like, you guys will see when we vlog it,
but like, behind the set is an absolute mess.
And actually, I mean, the set is a mess.
Yeah, the entire room is, the entire place is a mess.
Everything there isn't on camera.
The beauty of camera angles is everything looks bigger,
but this is, it is not as neat as you think it is.
In fact, like, I get actually,
like physically embarrassed whenever a guest comes over.
Oh yeah, it's pretty embarrassing.
Yeah, because the one thing,
the one mutual thing that every guest says is,
wow, this place's a lot smaller than it looks.
Well, yeah, we know, we know.
It's like, you know, when your mom comes in
and your room isn't tidy, that's what I feel like,
you know, the first thing I feel like saying is apologizing.
And then the second thing is like,
whoever has to explain to the guest
that they're gonna be sitting here,
and the first thing you have to explain to them
is how to get here.
And you're just like, oh, you just gotta go around,
the set, I think.
Like you cannot see any of the desk
and we have three desks over there.
Yeah.
You can't see any of the desk.
My desk is a fucking war zone
that Malien's turned into.
Which was the guest that
thought you had to go under again?
Who was that?
Rana.
Oh yeah, Rayna.
There was so little space.
Raina literally thought that you had to go under the table.
Oh, they'm honestly.
Honestly, probably.
Probably.
I can't blame.
There's less of a tripping hazard under here.
I can't fault her for thinking about, honestly.
Yeah, everything, everything,
the way we've done it is all, it works,
but it's literally the meme of like the Cheeto
holding the door long.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like everything works, but it's not clean.
It can be better.
It's just about, like, it looks good.
I'm happy with how it, considering what we've done,
it's the most scuffed way we can of it,
looking as good as it does and sounding as good as it does.
But yeah, we wanna, we really wanna upgrade it.
And I don't know, get a better system in general
just for everything, have more guests on,
you know, have guests on AfterDoc, you know,
just have it everything upgraded,
everything better, you know, and, you know,
And it's because of you guys that were even able
to fucking move to, you know.
Yeah, yeah.
Without the Patreon stuff,
we definitely would be able to consider
the upgrades that we're doing.
Absolutely.
Basically, when we started this podcast,
we were just like, what's the minimum
we can get away with in case this podcast is like zero?
Just crashes and burns immediately, right?
Yeah, so we planned this on like as much of a budget,
as much money as we were willing to put in, essentially.
How much money do we want to lose and then also hours do we want to lose?
Yeah, exactly.
But like, yeah, I mean, we're again, like,
We said this in the previous episode
with the Trash Taste Awards, obviously,
but we're very grateful, I think,
for the crazy amount of sport.
I think if you'd have told us that we'd be
this close to a million subs after one year,
I think we'd have been like, La Malle, funny.
I'd be like, a thousand, a hundred thousand subs,
that's a success.
Because we only, we only pushed this channel,
like what, twice on our main channels?
Yeah. Once at the end of a start of a video
or an end of a video, and then the Akihaban special.
And then the Akihabia special, yeah.
Considering it's everything else is driven by,
like, Twitter and you guys just enjoying the show,
You guys spreading the good word.
It's crazy, man.
It's crazy to see it.
Because normally with a lot of podcasts I see,
you have like, with big names in them,
you have like the big announcement,
so you got the big trickler views.
And then the view just like drips down,
which is what I was expecting.
And I wasn't expecting us to maintain, like,
via view count for 50 episodes.
It's also intimidating because now I know
that stuff I, the dumb shit I say
will be in front of more people than ever.
Yeah, right.
One thing I certainly was surprised by
was just like just,
Realizing that some of the shit we say to each other,
people are like hundreds of thousands of people
are now listening to it.
I forget about everything I fucking say.
Like I've- Same here.
All the dumb shit, like I got email today,
but baked beans.
But wanting to send me baked beans.
I totally forgot I said I like baked beans.
And someone's offering you send me a ton of baked beans
and I'm like, I'm flattered.
You can't say no to that.
I just can't remember why I said this.
I totally forgot.
This is really.
It just sounds like a random person
when you say you baked beans.
I know I went on the rant about like
I'm having baked beans,
but that was one of those things
where I'm very passionate in the moment,
and then when I leave, I totally forget
that I had a rant about that.
Exactly.
And I'm like, oh, I did, I did talk very passionately
about baked beans.
That is me.
I did do that.
I feel that's a lot of moments, right?
I mean, sometimes you just get passionate
when you're talking with your mates
or when you're in like a fucking,
Zekiah, or having like an argument
where it's not really an argument,
you're just very passionate in the moment.
Do you reckon we'll get any comments?
People are like, man,
I like the old set more.
There's a better vibe to it.
Well, the table's gonna be the same.
I stopped watching after season one.
Season one is when it went downhill.
Season two is a real letter.
Well, I mean, essentially it's not too much is gonna change, really.
Not too much.
Really, okay, to like bring down expectations.
Really the reason we want to change offices
is because this is not a convenient office at all.
On camera we don't want too much to change.
We just want to work more comfortably.
Instead of having this like,
the most jank fucking setup for everything we do.
I mean, right now, trash taste after dark
is running off of my laptop, okay?
There's like three giant ass HTMLs going into this man's laptop.
Yeah, the cable management is atrocious.
Literally, literally it's like,
it's a laptop that's sitting, that's like hooked up
on a, like, on a foldable chair,
that's like connected with wide internet
that's just running in the middle of the floor.
That's, that's it.
That's trash taste off.
It is jank as fuck.
And that's because we can't afford more space right now.
So it's like the most jank.
It's mostly for us.
Enough of us complaining about problems, I guess.
Everything should hopefully be better.
We don't know because we haven't moved yet.
But we're hoping that everything goes really smoothly.
Offset, I wanna shout out to the Denny's guy,
you're the real Jews.
The Denny's guy is always there for us.
So we've talked before about,
Boss man's always waiting for us.
Yeah, we've talked for about
That's how every time before a trash chase recording,
we have lunch at Denny's, and we've gone there so often
that there's a guy at Denny's who knows
the exact time we're coming in on the exact day.
And he knows what we want.
We all did the same thing every time.
He knows how many people as well.
Yeah, I've not met a boss man in Japan.
And I hadn't met a boss man in Japan until I met that guy.
You are boss man.
He's a real boss man.
He's a natural boss man.
I love it because like sometimes we would come into the Danes.
And he would just, the moment he sees us, he's like,
a-o, okay.
It's like, four, right?
I got you, I got you.
We got a reserve for you, don't worry.
You're gonna miss the milf bar, that's also, like, next door as well.
So we discovered, we discovered a bar.
It's just, it's just a, it's just a,
women.
Yeah, it's just, a restaurant that's just run by
attractive older Japanese women.
Hot single milfs in your area.
And I remember, I remember Connor first going into there,
and it's kind of like...
And he had an awakening.
I was like this.
The problem is like,
because we should come back here.
And then we almost, we came back almost every week for a while.
The land of milk and honey.
It's right around the corner.
What a beautiful bar.
Yeah, I'm gonna miss this area as well.
Like, you know, I didn't have much expectations
for this area.
Obviously we're not gonna say we're in a quiet area.
Yeah, but like, you know, we've come to,
after a year, we've come to, you know,
appreciate the small things, you know.
We can say we're in sight tomorrow,
it's whatever.
Sure, we can say we're in sight tomorrow now.
I don't know.
I mean, I don't think it matters now.
We're not gonna be.
We're not there anymore.
Yeah, we go, we guys are.
We're not there anymore, so we were in Saitama,
but not anymore.
Yeah, community was a pay on me, yeah.
Exactly.
Again, everything was on a budget, Saita Ma is outside of Tokyo.
It's like an hour, it's like an hour away from Tokyo.
It's immediately cheap.
Just, just close enough that it kind of feels like it's in Tokyo.
Yeah.
Kind of like being in Zone 4, zone 5, in London, right?
Yeah, it's like tell you're, you know,
in London, be like, yeah,
so the studio is at Heathrow Airport, just, just,
It wasn't that far.
It wasn't that far.
He thought Apple's like an hour hour
from central London.
Yeah, but Tokyo's a lot bigger as well, isn't it?
True, true, true.
I mean, you can go from one end of Tokyo
to another in an hour as well.
So I understand these references.
London boys?
Heathrow, yes.
Downtown Manhattan, right?
I don't know what I was gonna say.
Go to Pennsylvania from New York.
I guess thank you for watching.
Thank you for watching season one.
Yeah, well.
You have much else to say, really.
Hope you guys stick with us all through season two.
Look forward to more fun, epic game content.
There probably won't be a season 3,
because I don't think we plan on upgrading
from the new studios.
Yeah, yeah.
It'll be season 2 for a while.
Season 1 is the test run.
Yeah, yeah.
Season 2 is the one that has like 500 episodes.
Season 1 was, okay, don't think there's gonna be
many new plot developments.
Yeah, this is literally it.
This is like, I-season one was like the 54-episode pilot.
Season two is where the actual show begins.
Yeah.
But yeah, hopefully you guys enjoy the new studio.
Yeah. It's just like Arthur.
Does Arthur have seasons?
I don't know if Arthur has seasons.
What do you mean the...
Good show.
The cartoon.
Yeah. Does that have seasons?
Does Arthur have seasons?
I feel like it's just running.
I know.
We're gonna be like Arthur.
We're just never gonna stop Eric.
We're just gonna every single week.
I've never heard of anyone being like,
oh, season 23 if Arthur was my favorite.
Does Arthur have seasons?
Can you Google it?
Arthur doesn't have seasons.
It just runs, it just keeps going.
It just runs.
I'd say it's more like come and dine with me, right?
I don't know, we're just gonna keep coming
and coming every week.
We come every week, guys.
Come.
Come.
Now.
That's it, we'll see you guys next.
No, we gotta shout out the patrons.
We gotta shout out the patrons.
Look at these lovely patrons.
Look at these patrons.
Who without, we could not move into a new studio.
Exactly.
A better setup than we do now off screen.
Absolutely.
Are you past seasons?
No, it doesn't, fuck off.
It has season.
Season 22.
It's basically one season.
No.
Yeah, one long season 22.
I don't even, I can't tell.
But hey, if you like Arthur season 22, then make sure to go over to our Patreon, Patreon.
Patreon.
Also follow us on Twitter, send us your memes on the subreddit, and if you had our faces,
listen to us on Spotify.
And also, go subscribe to After Dark.
There's gonna be a lot more content there, hopefully.
Hopefully, starting very soon though.
Yep.
Bye, bye, bye.
Yeah, bye.
Bye, old studio.
I mean, we're taking most of this with us.
I mean, I'm taking Rios with me.
What were you gonna say,
gone for it, rudely interrupted you?
I have no idea.
Fantastic.
All right, see you guys, the new studio.
See you guys next time.
I was like our slowest outro ever.
What the fuck is that?
