Trash Taste Podcast - Has Trash Taste Changed? | Trash Taste #201

Episode Date: April 26, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Yeah, I needed some new undies. They had a whole Final Fantasy Six collection. So I was like, I'll take your entire stock. These are legitimately some of the most comfortable. No. Bro, bro, that is kind. It's like I'm wearing nothing at all. That is a problem.
Starting point is 00:00:17 I want to feel like I'm wearing something when I'm wearing underwear, man. It's tight, it's snug around my balls, you know? It's nice. If there's like too much, if there's too much space down there, I'm like, no, my ball should not be swinging this much, man. No, no, no, it's not loose. It's like it fits perfectly, but like the fabric is so nice.
Starting point is 00:00:33 It doesn't feel like anything. It's like silk. All right. Please don't tell me that's the cold oven. That is the cold oaf. You just had to show up underwear, Joey. I wanted to show people.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Hello, and welcome to this episode of Trash Taste. I hope you are comfy in your undies, as we all are right now. I am your host for today, Gantt, and joining me once again are the boys and we have a special episode for you guys today. Really? Because we are going to be revisiting all our shittiest takes and putting ourselves on court. Now as you know, trash taste has been going on for quite a long time. Right.
Starting point is 00:01:19 Four years. Has it been over four years or it's been four years? Over two years episodes. Yeah, almost four years. Yeah, almost four years now. And in that time, I think we've kind of changed as people, right? Right. Right, have you guys changed? Have you guys had any character development at all? Yeah, I am worse. I am a worse, I am a worse human being. Character regression.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Yeah. What's the, what's the opposite? We live long enough to see us as become the villain. Yeah. What's the opposite of a redemption arc? This is a recession. A recession arc. Yeah. So in that time, you know, we might have grown as people,
Starting point is 00:01:55 we might have regressed as people, but some of our opinions may have changed over their time, You know, we've had it before where we've said something outrageous on trash taste and then maybe a few weeks or a year passes and we might have reined in that take a little bit. Oh, sometimes it's been a few minutes passed. Just like, oh shit, should have said that. So we got our content producer to get us some of our takes,
Starting point is 00:02:17 mostly from like season one. And keep in mind, I can barely remember what I said on last week's trash taste or this or probably like five minutes ago. Let alone what I said three fucking years ago. or four years ago. So we got some of our takes from very, very early seasons, some famous, some not. And we're going to see if we have still remains that same person
Starting point is 00:02:40 and if we still agree with the takes, which terrifies me. Yeah. Because, like, God knows what I said three years ago. I can already guess what some of these takes are going to be. I'm interested to see what else has come up, though. I feel as well. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Shut up. I feel season one especially was when, you know, because we were just kind of getting our foot in the door of this whole podcast thing and this whole format. So like I feel we didn't really have anything to be afraid of. You know?
Starting point is 00:03:15 It's like we still have something to be afraid of, no? We've kind of learned to like, you know, maybe we shouldn't say these things. But I just have this like weird memory of just like, I think some of the most just no brain unhinged shit that we've said on trash days come, a lot of them come from kind of early on.
Starting point is 00:03:30 I feel like I've gotten more unhinged. You think so? Yeah, I think so. Do you know what I've realized? I, like, I stopped doing this, I think, season, halfway through season two. Yeah. Sometimes I would just say outrageous shit. What is season two?
Starting point is 00:03:43 Or just like, you know, you know, I guess, second year. Second year, second year. Okay, so we are we just saying the years of seasons? Yeah, I guess so. I'm just making sure I understand. Yeah, season two would be episode 50 to 100. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:56 I would have thought of this more like, like, this set being season two. Yeah, that's what I thought. You know how like, when some TV shows, they're like, oh, I don't know how the first season's gonna go. Yeah, and then the people, are you guys really well, and they're like, oh, they should make one million episodes
Starting point is 00:04:08 of season two. I feel like that's what we're in. I mean, we can do that too. Yeah, we never really got past season two. We have like a few OVA episodes, but I remember I realized I would, especially early on, I would say a lot of outrageous shit, not because I necessarily 100% believe them,
Starting point is 00:04:24 but just because I just... Because it'd be funny. No, no, no, no. Just because I wanted the other person to be wrong. Oh, I see. Devil's advocate, right. Not even devil's advocate. Sometimes Connor would be arguing something,
Starting point is 00:04:37 and I was just don't want this. I know. I just don't want this motherfucker to be right. Yeah, I know you would. Yeah, you would argue. You both did this too. It's so funny. All right, shall we get started then?
Starting point is 00:04:48 All right, let's see. What horrors await? Okay. In trash box could today. Okay, what's, uh, okay, so. Okay, well, this is, I can't remember which season this was, but this is one of your ones, Joey. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:05 But let's start on the strong one of this one. Okay. Because I know you think Juduice Guyson is still mid. We don't need, we don't need to argue that one. We don't know how to argue that one. Still agree with it. All right. This, this, okay, this is, this one's a classic one actually.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Okay. I don't think yours has changed, Connor. I think actually mine's changed on this one. To me, music is just beeps and boops. There we go, actually. And, uh, okay. Okay, so. Where do we have to start with this one?
Starting point is 00:05:34 So this is right. This is, this is a classic trash taste one. And I remember originally I clounded new for this one. Everyone planned on me. Oh, rightfully so. I think Beeps and Boops won the hot take of the year. Rightfully so. It's right.
Starting point is 00:05:49 In the first Trash Taste Award. And I've let a simmer a bit. I've let that take simmer a bit for me. And especially talking to Kevin. as well, when Kevin came on. Because who can be more of an authority figure in this industry than someone who makes this for a living, right? Sure.
Starting point is 00:06:07 And I realize, I don't really listen to lyrics. I... Okay. I mean, you know, I sometimes don't either, if the lyrics are not worth listening to it. Okay, Joey, how important are lyrics to the music for you? It depends on the music. I think like, you know, you can argue that a Darth punk songs
Starting point is 00:06:30 lyrics are not necessarily as important because that's not the main focus of the music. Sure, like, you don't listen to around the world going like, bang a lyrics, like, you know, because they just say around the world seven times. No, actually, that is, I would argue that as bang. Okay, well, you're just, well, they found a great line and they stuck with it.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Well, you're just a Neanderthal. No. I love it when he goes around the world. You're just like, say it again, see it again. It's so great. I like one more time. You're fucking Patrick Star. It's good.
Starting point is 00:07:00 You are Patrick Star in terms of music. No, no, I'm right. But like, you know, sometimes if like a song or like, you know, say a song of an album follows a story, or you know, if the artist is trying to convey some sort of message. Give me an example. Okay, let's say like Kendrick Lamar's to Pimper Butterfly. Any song off of that, right?
Starting point is 00:07:20 Or actually, actually any Kendrick Lamar song, really, right? Like he's the kind of artist who obviously is trying to say a lot of things. It's trying to portray a message and a lot of his lyrics are very poetic and very meaningful. Yeah. Now, that's not to say that every rap artist is like that. You know, look at fucking Gucci gang by a little pop, you know? Like, that's just whatever, right? That people like that song because it's catchy, not because he's like spitting poetry, you know?
Starting point is 00:07:47 So it depends. Like sometimes I'm just like, I want to listen to the music because of the music. I'll put that with like a caveat because I put like, I guess hip hop and rap in like a different kind of like space in my mind because I'm like, okay, this is really cool spoken poetry, basically. If you like, you know, break it down, you're like, okay, this is really cool.
Starting point is 00:08:06 A lot of this is based on the lyrics and the words. For me, when I listen to a lot of other genres though, when it comes to like maybe like rock or even like fucking pop songs or whatever, I like, first time, I always have this argument with Sydney, she like, she can listen to her song and she immediately hears the lyrics. It takes me even like 20 fucking listens to a song
Starting point is 00:08:31 before I even like start noticing words that are being said. I could listen to a song a hundred times and not know what, I don't know what they're saying. I've never like listening. You're listening to English music, right? Yeah, yeah. I'm like I'm trying to think,
Starting point is 00:08:43 like I was just thinking about food fighters. Like the, I think I listened to a lot of foo fighters, like the pretender, I think I've listened to that song a bunch. I've no idea what those songs about. Dude, that, food fighter lyrics are fucking amazing. I've no idea what he said. Dave girl is such.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Such an amazing lyricist. What's your favorite food fighter song? Oh fuck, that's hard. Probably either Evalong or. I have no idea what Evalon is that. I don't know what monkey wrench. I don't know what any of these songs are about, but I'm like, oh, the sound is nice though.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Yeah, no, no, no. I get to the chorus, I'm like, oh, I know this part. And then you get to the lyrics, you get to like the verse and you're like, oh, ba-b-b-bub-bub-bub-bub-bub-bh. That's literally how it translates. What's like monkey wrench about? What's that about?
Starting point is 00:09:23 Monkey Ranch? Yeah, what's that about? Monkey Ranch, shit, that's a good cushion. I know the lyrics, I know all the lyrics to it. Do you know what, blow, do you know what breaks my mind every time? Sometimes I go like, I see a music video, like, no, a music analysis video on YouTube, where they're like, all right, and this is why the lyrics to this song are genius. And this guy breaks down, like, this guy, like, says, like, the verse of a song.
Starting point is 00:09:50 You're talking about polyphonic? I don't know. It's just like, I don't know. That's a great channel. Yeah, but there's, every time you like present me with like lyrics to a verse of a song and you don't sing it, I'm like, I've never seen this before in my life.
Starting point is 00:10:03 You know what I mean? It's like the DNA of it. Like I don't recognize it in the spoken form. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like it's like, as like sound. But even then it's like, I miss remember lyrics all the time. Yeah. Like I cannot remember the words.
Starting point is 00:10:15 I think that's normal, for sure. Even like when I'm looking at karaoke and a song that I know really well, I'll see the words and in my head, I'm like, Can I fit this in with the sound that I remember? And sometimes I don't, and then they fuck it up. And I'm like, why do I not remember any of the lyrics?
Starting point is 00:10:31 I just, I just cannot remember any of it. Like, and then sometimes I listen to the lyrics, I'm like, this doesn't make a lot of sense. Do you think it might have to do with the difference of the fact that, you know, I'm like, you know, musically trained from a young age and like, because I'm a musician myself, I might just be like, have more of a natural inkling
Starting point is 00:10:48 to like look into songs deeper. Nah. Because that, because, you know, there is like, Like that whole meme of like, oh, this is like a musicians band, like, or a musicians artist. Where like, as in like people, the only people who appreciate a particular artist or a particular band are people who are also musicians. Right. Right. Because like they see and they understand like, oh, that's technically difficult to do or that's impressive to like create.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Yeah. But people who aren't musically trained and have no idea about music will just listen to it and go, that just sounds like a fucking mess. Why would I listen to that? Like that, that is true. Like I have experienced that personally myself with a lot of bands I like. I mean to me with music, I feel like I'm very surface level with it, right?
Starting point is 00:11:30 Sure. Music is all about, fuck I say. It's all about the vibe, right? It's, it's, it's, it's. I'm having PTSD from last episode. But even more than- No, I get it though. I totally get it.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Even more than like anime or like other pieces of media with like film or something. Sure. Music to me is all about just a certain feeling or a certain vibe. Sure. I don't always know what the message is behind a song.
Starting point is 00:11:52 In fact, there are sometimes where there's a song I really love and then I see of someone being like, oh, do you know what that song's about? And I'm like, I have no fucking idea. Yeah, that was like pumped up kicks when I found out what that was about. Yeah, same here, right?
Starting point is 00:12:05 I thought that was just a catchy song. I was like, great songs. And well, but you would have understood if you actually listen to the lyrics. I think even if I listen. Because they're not subtle about it. You listen, even the chorus is like, obviously it's talking about that.
Starting point is 00:12:16 I think I would go like, oh, that's weird. Anyway. Better run, better run faster than my guys. So you're saying this, and I'm like, I don't recognize that. I wouldn't, I wouldn't think a name. Better run, better run faster than my bullet. Yeah, yeah, I get, like, like, listen to that, it's like, oh yeah,
Starting point is 00:12:31 that's obviously about that. Okay, when you say like that, yes, it's very obvious, but when you hear a song, I'm just like, oh, do, da, no, no, no, right, faster, might be, it, like, might as well be a guitar riff at this point. Like, it's just like, you're saying, like, you're speaking, like,
Starting point is 00:12:46 I'm speaking in Swahili for me. Like, I have no idea what the fuck that means, man. I think someone could follow. like list all the crimes they've committed and I would never notice. Yeah, I'd be like, yeah. Well, that's like most rap songs. Like, I break in into, okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:12:59 That's, yeah, like in a card, right? That's pretty cool. Yeah, like, you know, one of my favorite musicians growing up was like, obviously like Michael Jackson. And I, you know, for the longest time, one of my favorite songs was a smooth criminal. And for most of my life, I thought the lyrics were, Annie, are you walking?
Starting point is 00:13:15 And I'm just like, I don't, are you walking? And I, I, I, I, I, I, I had no idea what that is. I don't even know who Annie is. I don't even know what that song is about. What is the actual lyric? Annie, are you okay? Okay, good, that's what I heard.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Yeah, I thought I was dumb for a second. Any, like, what, is Annie in a wheelchair? Like, why was like, what, is Annie in a wheelchair? And he's just like, Eddie, are you walking? What the fuck? It could be, I have no idea. I mean, I have plenty of lyrics where I have, I have, I have, this heard it.
Starting point is 00:13:47 And I also, when I hear the correct one, I'm like, no. No, no, I've had that. before as well. I've had like, like every time we go to karaoke, there's always like one song where I'm like, I know the lyrics to this and then I read the words on karaoke and I'm like, that's not the lyrics. Like I know the lyrics in my mind.
Starting point is 00:14:04 I have this argument all the time with Sydney where we have a song and we argue over the lyrics and both of us are like equally wrong. How'd that happen? I don't know. Just Google it, bro. Yeah, just Google the lyrics. Just Google it.
Starting point is 00:14:17 But how often do you Google lyrics? How often do you Google lyrics, Connor? If I was having an argument, about lyrics. No, no, I mean, I mean, like, in terms of like, in terms of, like, remembering what the lyrics to us are somewhere. Oh, never, never, never. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:28 No, no, it's embarrassing. Well, see, because I like to do this thing where, like, you know, if I am listening to say, like, a new artist or a new album, never heard. But I've heard that it's like, you know, maybe it's a concept album or it's like a story album or something. Or even if it's not, you know, when I'm listening to it on Spotify, sometimes, you know, they'll have the lyrics on Spotify. And I like reading along as I'm listening to it.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Just to get, like, better context of what I'm listening to it. No, but it's great, because it's like, oh, okay, now I actually have like a better understanding of the song and it's a banger. Okay, here's my second problem, like, with like lyrics to a song, right? Yeah. I've tried that before where I'm like, okay, maybe I should like try a,
Starting point is 00:15:04 try finding a deeper appreciation to the song. So I read along with the lyrics and a lot of the times I'm like, still don't really know what the song's about. But that's fine. But that's the thing, it's like, you know, a lot of times when I listen to a song, I don't immediately get the meaning of it
Starting point is 00:15:20 on the first go. Because if the song sucks at the end of the day, it doesn't matter how deep your meaning is, the song still sucks. But if it's a banger, then I'll go back to it and then maybe I might try and be like, all right, let's actually like try and I wanna know what the lyrics are now.
Starting point is 00:15:33 I actually think that when I understand what the song's about, it ruins it for me. What, I mean, but like that's only like with certain ones where I like pumped up kicks for instance. Did that, did the meaning, when you learned the meaning of pumped up kicks, did that ruin the song for you?
Starting point is 00:15:49 Actually, the problem is whenever I learned meaning of any song, all I can think about when I'm listening to the song is the meaning. And I want to just, I want to just have the sound. I don't want to think about what it's, what it's telling me. And when I think about what it's telling me, I don't, I'm like, it ruins the vibe, right? Yeah, because I want to zone out. I want to do other stuff. Well, okay, but like, that's the thing. It's like, I think inherently there is nothing wrong with consuming music like that, because at the end of the day, damn straight. If you, yeah, if you like, if you like the fucking music, then that's cool. That's, that's all it is at the end of it.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Like, I don't fault anyone for, you know, being like, oh, oh, I'm, I don't care about lyrics. I'm like, okay, that's fine. That's how you like to enjoy, consume media. It's like, you know, oh, I don't wanna watch movies to like try and get the better understanding of like what it means. I just wanna watch fun shit on the screen.
Starting point is 00:16:33 It's like, okay, that's fine. Well, it's not just that. Totally okay with it. It's like, because for me, I think that's why it's, I find it so easy to get into music in a language I'd like never understood at all. Right. Or even like, you know, a band like Siguross
Starting point is 00:16:47 where it's just like, yeah. I like, I mean, half the time there are no lyrics. Yeah, their music has moved me in a way that few pieces of media ever have. 100% agree. I mean, that concert was fucking life-changing and they only sang like half the time. Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, I did not understand anything. I don't need to understand anything because the communication is in the beeps and the boops that they have created for themselves. And to me, I think I've come around to be like, well, maybe the way you worded it was. wasn't the best way, but to me, you could have like the deepest lyrics of all time,
Starting point is 00:17:27 but on someone like me, it is fucking lost. Because I am, you can, you could make, you could make these lyrics which details some really tragic life event or some really deep shit and it is going to be lost on me. Right. But you know, even, you know, even listening to, you know, shit like Pink Floyd, I, you know, Pete, I only know some of the meanings
Starting point is 00:17:49 of the song because people have told me the meanings of the song. But it's still like, it's still like affected me emotionally, listen to the songs just because, just because I think like the communication, the language of music goes more than just spoken language in general. Of course, you could go that deeper level and find a deeper appreciation to what people are trying to say
Starting point is 00:18:11 through the lyrics of their song. But to me, it's, what I like about music is just my own gut feeling about what do I feel from listening to these notes that are being played. And like, I totally understand your point of view as well of like, once you learn the meaning of a song, then it might ruin it for you. You're actually only think about the meaning.
Starting point is 00:18:30 I can't think about the meaning. But I think that's the thing, it's like, but I think it depends on the song, right? Because I think sometimes by learning the meaning of the song, it further enhances the sound. Like, you know, take for example like zombie by cranberries, right? Like that song is like, you know, pretty, it's a great song, fucking catch your shit.
Starting point is 00:18:47 But it's about the fucking war between like, Ireland and Northern Ireland that's been happening for the struggles, I think it's called. The troubles. The troubles, sorry, yeah. It's about the troubles. Oh, okay. And, like, once you actually read the lyrics and then you listen to the music that is paired with it, you get so much more of an emotional, like, impact on it. I thought it was about zombies. No, it's not. It's about, like, a horrible war. Right? So, like, I think that's an example of where, like, the lyrics, I think, further enhance the emotions you feel towards that song. But, but, but, Then the opposite exists, like say like, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:21 turning Japanese, everyone knows that song, but that song's about masturbation. What is turning Japanese? They're turning Japanese, I think I'm turning Japanese. I've never heard that song in your life. I've never heard that song in your life. Really? I've never heard this.
Starting point is 00:19:34 All right, well, you're lost. Yeah. But that is like one of the most like fucking famous 80s songs, right? Yeah, yeah. For the longest time everyone was like, oh, it's just a fucking fun, catchy 80s song. No, it's about the lead singer being infatuated Japanese girls and masturbating to pictures of them.
Starting point is 00:19:48 How, is this, something he's come out and said or is it something that... No, if you read the lyrics, it's obvious. Can we read the lyrics? Read the lyrics to Tony Japanese. I wanna read the lyrics. By, oh, what the fuck's the fan name? Starts with V.
Starting point is 00:20:01 The vapors. The vapors. Yeah. I've got your picture of me and you. You wrote, I love you, I wrote me too. I sit there starting and there's nothing else to do. Oh, it's in the color, your hair is brown, your eyes are hazel and softest clouds.
Starting point is 00:20:19 and kiss you, where there's no one else around. I've got your picture, I've got your picture. I like a million of you over myself. Oh, wow. I want a doctor to take your picture so I can look at you from inside as well. What the fuck? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:34 What the fuck? That's what I'm saying. There's some serial killer shit, bro. Yeah. I'm turning Japanese. I think I'm turning Japanese. I really think so. It's literally about the lead singer masturbating to girls.
Starting point is 00:20:46 This is some fucking serial killer shit about. But when you listen to the song, you're just like, oh, this is just a fucking catchy 80 song. This is so catchy though. Yeah. So catchy. But now that you know the meaning of it, you'll never be able to listen to the song
Starting point is 00:20:56 the same ever again. I'd never listen to it. Yeah. So do you think are there deeper meanings to Darth punk songs? Around the world, isn't it? Around the world? Yeah, of course there is.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Look up the lyrics around the world. I don't know what, I don't know what. I don't know if there is. What is harder, better, faster about? By getting harder and faster. Meaning. I would like to know if there is a deeper meaning. That's the lyrics I like,
Starting point is 00:21:24 now that's some quality lyrics, boys. Is it not a banger? I mean, it's a banger. The track speaks of where the mind goes at the most desperate and desolate of times. I mean, sure. It's just about slips away to all but disconnect itself. I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:21:42 It gets repeated almost 150 times. Okay, around the world. So is it about, Wait, wait, what did the top, tracks speeds up, but a, but, blah, blah. So there is no deeper meaning behind around the world. What a shocker, what a shocker. But that's fine, because it's still a fucking banga song.
Starting point is 00:21:59 It is, it is a great song. Not all music needs to have meaning. If anything, you could have, again, the most-. Not having meaning, is a meaning. Yeah, you could have the most, like, poignant, deep, like, fucking, like, cerebral meaning to your song.
Starting point is 00:22:12 But if your song sounds like shit, no one's gonna care what the meaning of it is. Yeah, but, but, So at the end of the day, what's the most important is, is your music even, does your music even sound good? Is, are people gonna actually fuck with your music? Then after that, if you wanna add some meaning, go for it. Well, you've like, you've obviously written music before
Starting point is 00:22:30 when you've written songs. Yeah, right? What's your process? What's the process you've done when you've come to like songs? My process is I just like, well, for me, lyrics always come last. Yeah. Because it's like, at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:22:43 again, as I said, I need the actual music to sound good to me. And then after that I can be like, well, all right, what are the appropriate lyrics to a song like this? Or maybe I have something I wanna talk about or whatever, right? Not that my music's shit. So it's like, I've know. You still went to do a creative process
Starting point is 00:23:02 to make music before, which is I think a big thing, you know? But like, yeah, for me it's always like, the sound of the song comes first. Because if the sound of your song sucks, lyrics or not, it's gonna suck. Right, you know? So I think that's the most important. The vibe comes first.
Starting point is 00:23:20 The vibe comes first, exactly. Okay, okay. Yeah, so that's why, again, I think my only problem with that take is, again, as you said, the way you phrased it. I don't phrase it badly. I don't think all music is beeps and boops, but I do think some music is just beeps and boobs,
Starting point is 00:23:36 and that's fine. To me, most of it is. All right, to me, pick another one. You all eventually come around to my side. You all eventually turn. Yeah, after I have a lobotomy. Hey, you're still coming around. All right, next one.
Starting point is 00:23:53 This is definitely Connors. What? I can't jack off to Dojans. Okay. Yeah, I mean, why the fuck I don't want to jack off? What am I in like the 1970? Sorry, the 1700s jacking off to like a- We did a whole Dojan episode.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Your opinion hasn't changed the tool. No, fuck no. Really? Why would, I can't jack off to a piece of paper. No, it was like, it was more like still. It was more like still images, right? Yeah, still image. Yeah, if you made a flip book, maybe I can make it happen.
Starting point is 00:24:18 I got it pretty fucking big flip. Okay, what's more important to you? Is it movement or is it sounds? Cause to me, I think- What? Who's jacking off to sound? Yeah, okay, so here's the hypothetical. If you, would you rather watch porn blind or deaf?
Starting point is 00:24:33 Ah, I think the barrier of entry would be significantly easier if I was blind, right? Because then like you just have to make audio, which I feel like it's way easier than making visuals. No, no, no. So, like, hypothetical, you load up, Let's say you load up Masterpiece.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Yeah, yeah. Would you rather consume it completely blind, but you can hear all the audio? Or would you rather turn the volume off and just watch it? I'd rather be blind so I can enjoy every Queen Bee henside that has ever been released. Yeah, I literally just said, you have so many more options if you're blind.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Because again, the barrier entry of making audio is so much lower than making good visuals, right? Sure. That's what I said. Yeah, so you just said what I said, but then you're like. No, no, no, what, what I was, you know, What I was, you know, what I was trying to get at is like, is sound to you more important? No, I understand that.
Starting point is 00:25:22 No, no, yeah, yeah. But I was illustrating a point that if you were more options. Yeah. To me, uh, it honestly just depends. But if I had to choose one. But you've cracked a fat or a dogeon before, right? No. Uh, dope fat. Yeah, yeah, I guess so.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Yeah. But I never, never, I would never be like, but it's never gone beyond that. No, because then I, bro, it's like, uh, it's like trying to get a, your laptop to like run World of Warcraft or something. It's like it's like boning up. It's like the amount of processing power to get something done here is a lot.
Starting point is 00:25:51 And we don't get the bandwidth for that. So I, my brain, of course, being the PC. I didn't realize it was that big of a task. Yeah. Well, I have to like really imagine and I don't wanna imagine. That's just, that's so much work. So I would, I think I would go audio if I had to you actually.
Starting point is 00:26:06 I don't know, man. I think imagination is actually like, in a way, imagination, it takes more effort. I'm building the bridge while I'm jacking my arm. It's like the walls and green. He's on the train, he's putting down the tracks. He's going, and I'm jacking one off. And I'm making a plot and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:26:23 oh, that's a plot hole, I'm like, Jack off through it, check through it. You know, it's like, I don't wanna have to like do that. And Dojans, I don't wanna have to like go, man, okay, okay, I don't wanna have to turn the page. Yeah, okay, okay, so much effort. All right, I was like, I don't know, man, it's a lot of work. Okay, okay, hypothetical question, all right?
Starting point is 00:26:44 Let's say we go back 30 years. All right. Internet doesn't exist anymore. We are our parents' age. Are you, you have a choice. Do you phone in on one of those little seductive, like sex hotlines or do you go get a Playboy magazine? I'm getting a Playboy magazine.
Starting point is 00:27:01 You're getting a Playboy? Yeah, I would get a Playboy. 100%. Because one, very shameful having to call someone up. You make me jack off. Say Tony things in my ear, please. Okay, okay. I think the, I don't know, what would you?
Starting point is 00:27:14 The disconnect between the magazine is accepted. But also back then, because your porn options are way less, right? You know, we've been spoiled. We have been spoiled. Jacking off now, I need like the fucking stars to align for like the perfect plot. Like, we could be picky about plot now. You know what I mean? You couldn't do that back then.
Starting point is 00:27:31 It was like, whatever fucking page four to show's up, you're like, all right, I guess I'm beating one out to this. You know, what am we going to do? Is it page four or page three? I don't know. I don't know. I think it's four in America, three in the UK. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:42 Are those things still around? I think some of them still have. What are we talking about? Yeah. No, in the UK there was like a, I remember this growing up because I think it was the sun. It was a newspaper. And on page three, they would always have like a topless model on.
Starting point is 00:28:00 I mean, this is a newspaper, right? This was a newspaper. Well, it's very generous for the son of newspaper. Yeah. A tabloid. It's a, yeah. Oh, I see. You know.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Yeah, I see. And on, yeah, I remember that. I remember growing up, it was like the close, I got to seeing any boobs for like, until the internet was invented. Is it page four in America, am I correct in thinking that? I feel like it, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:22 That's surprising that it's like, right near the front. No, no, not the sun, just newspaper page four. Like, normally with that kind of stuff, it's like in the back maybe, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, they didn't fuck around. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Yeah, I don't know if it exists in America, but it definitely, this was a thing that definitely existed in, in the UK. I just made shit off way. Yeah. Did you? Point being, I cannot drag off to Dogens.
Starting point is 00:28:51 I wish I could... Did you, okay, was the first time you discovered adult content? Was that from like the internet? Yeah. Yeah. So, okay. Well, Tainigley was from my friend's phone.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Yeah, I was never really in phone. Yeah. I also like, I mean, I knew there was the page three topless thing, but I'm also like, I don't care. But then when I hear about like online, I'm like, this is kind of cool.
Starting point is 00:29:16 I don't want to type it in, I can search. This is kind of cool. It's kind of neat. I just thought it was cool because you could search for it. Like type in what you wanted to see. I thought that was kind of neat. No, it wasn't actually.
Starting point is 00:29:25 The first time I just, the first time I ever saw a Playboy magazine. Yeah. Was when I was in like, first year of high school. So I was like, what, 12, 13-ish? Right. And someone in our school had brought one.
Starting point is 00:29:42 I think they might have like stolen it. They might have like stolen it from like their dad or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had exactly this. Like they brought one to school. I had exactly the same thing at my school actually where they were like, yo, I don't think it was like Playboy, but it was like an adult magazine.
Starting point is 00:29:54 And I remember it was like one, and it was like the fucking talk of the school. Yeah. That yo, you know what fucking Jimmy has right now? Yeah, all the kids like went to the bathroom and like huddled around and looked at this thing. I were fucking remember that. Yeah, guys didn't used to do that.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Yeah. And I'm like, whoa, are those real boobies? I remember a guy you had porn once on his Bluetooth phone. It was in like 10p. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I was referring to. Gilbe was railed in like 10p. Yeah, he had like his motor roll a razor.
Starting point is 00:30:23 And it was like, I think I can make out some boobs. It was a, I think everyone, when I was growing up, everyone had the Sony Erickson. Oh yeah, the Sony Arikson. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shall I pick one? Yeah, yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:30:37 There's a lot in here. If it's another one of mine, I swear to God. I think most of these is gonna be. I'm scared of wasting my time on anime and games. Who the hell said that? Who said that? Who said that? Who said that?
Starting point is 00:30:52 It was me? I said that. You said Garn, I'm scared of wasting my time on anime and games. Oh. You watched the most anime out of all of us. Okay, I must have said this. I think Gahn had the liberty to say this
Starting point is 00:31:09 because this was during the time when I was still watching all of us. This must have been during season one when I was just like, hey, I'm like an anime YouTuber. I'm, and with, like, trash taste is starting and we're doing all this, like, new shit now with making, like, I've, because, okay, do you remember when we saw a trash taste
Starting point is 00:31:27 and do you remember, like, our first IRO recording? Yeah. I was, like, shitting myself during, uh, during a, during a, during a, it was a figure special, right? Oh, that one, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, like the first time. You were, it was so cute to watch it. Because like Connor and I had already like finished our intro
Starting point is 00:31:45 and we were waiting on gone. And I remember just like, you're a really hard time. I remember just looking from the distance and I'm like, come on, come on, you got this. You got this man. I think you kept doing like inside voice.
Starting point is 00:31:56 It's like I got to do outside voice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I remember halfway through speaking, I would always look at Sydney and be like, am I saying the right thing? Is this what I meant to be saying? Am I missing anything? Although I still think I am kind of like that.
Starting point is 00:32:10 You're a lot better now. I'm better now. to just like, okay, I'm going to finish my sentence before I actually start thinking, did I say the right thing? Because, okay, I don't know how you guys do it. I know specifically you, Joey, because I've, because we all have like second channels
Starting point is 00:32:26 now and everything like that. Yeah. I have tried recording second channel videos, like vloggy type, you know, videos, opinion-based videos without being on stream. And I find it nigh on impossible to do it. Really? The reason I turn all my stream highlights into like different video ideas is because unless I have like chat there
Starting point is 00:32:47 to like to make sure that I'm not like overthinking what I say. Right. I will just like not finish a sentence until like I have like five takes. Oh no, oh no, trust me, all of my videos, I'm overthinking. But I've recorded them anyway. Like I tried recording like a 15 minute video. It takes me like an hour and 50, it takes me like an extra hour to like record a 50 minute video sometimes.
Starting point is 00:33:10 I think a 15 minute video for me takes 20 minutes. I just cut out the five minutes of silence and I'm just leaving everything else in. You know, if you do something like that, I just find that writing like bullet points of roughly what you wanted to say. Even if I'm like writing bullet points, because to me, unless it's like a whole script,
Starting point is 00:33:29 I'm like, okay, I know I wanted to say this, but I don't know how I wanted to say this. And I will sit there being like, huh, what was it? How did I want to say this again? And then I realized that unless I have someone, actually watching me, maybe it's like someone behind the camera, or like, just like, I'm being live streams. That thing is watching me.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Yeah, unless I have someone watching me, I just can't properly put my, see, like, I'm the opposite where like, if I try to do like, say like Japan news based videos or any second channel content on stream, I get distracted by the chat. Because like, not everyone in the chat is going to be like talking about the same thing
Starting point is 00:34:11 I'm talking about or trying to bounce ideas off right. And then I will just see that one comment that is just like completely not on topic. And then I just keep going on tangents forever until I'm like, wait, what the fuck was I talking about again? I become like less coherent. Yeah, I become less coherent too. Whereas like, if it's just me, then I have enough time in my head to be like, okay, I know exactly what to say. Yeah, just translate this to here. And then yeah, and I can get it done. See, that's that's the secret. I'm never coherent. So that doesn't answer the question of why you're scared of of wasting your time on anime and games.
Starting point is 00:34:44 I think I was scared that I just wasn't going out enough. And I was just like putting value in the wrong things. And I think trash taste made me open my eyes to be like, hey, maybe I should do, because I think before Trash Tastes, all I did my entire working week was sitting inside in an office and scripting and occasionally going out. And now that I have trash taste,
Starting point is 00:35:13 I get to go out to the office, I get to, you know, but you guys and I try to go out more often as well. And I realize maybe anime and video games aren't the problem, because now I just wanna play more anime in video games. But it was going out that made me realize and appreciate watching anime and playing video games more. So you don't feel this way anymore. You don't think watching anime are playing.
Starting point is 00:35:35 It's a balance, I think. I think it's a balance. I think it's, I think we've, anything because I think obviously in trash day season one, COVID was like a big thing as well. Sure. And I think I was definitely in a rut back then. And obviously what a lot of people did was just play a bunch of games and watch anime or watch movies.
Starting point is 00:35:59 And now that we get to go back outside, do you remember like, do you remember when like the COVID restrictions got lifted? And then we got versus like last year. Finally, like the like fully yeah. Like fully, but. Like in terms of... Like the first wave, right?
Starting point is 00:36:14 In terms of like the first wave where you can just like just start enjoying yourself and start traveling around the world again. And like I was like, oh, I want to travel so much. And then we did like the first year of like trash taste traveling and I was after that year, I was like... Well, that was our first tour, right? Yeah, that was the first tour.
Starting point is 00:36:29 And I'm like, I think I over did that. Oh yeah, 100%. And I was like, I want to do nothing. Last year for me and the year before, like the two tour years. Yeah. Like that was the, that was the, Those are the two years that this year made me go,
Starting point is 00:36:44 I ain't fucking going anywhere, dog. I'm playing all the games. I'm staying inside. Yeah, Joe, okay. I feel like you've played even more games recently. Dude, like I finished like three JRP's in the last month. But that's because JRP players are just eating good. Smoking.
Starting point is 00:37:02 Yeah, yeah. So it's been great, yeah. Like all the games I've wanted is always eating good. No? Yes. No. There's always JRP's. No, because like we had such like a massive stint
Starting point is 00:37:14 during COVID whereas like no like good JRP's because all people who were making JRPG stopped making them because they were playing them instead. It's literally like all of the JRPGs I've been looking forward to just all came out at once in February and March. So it's like that's why we've been kind of eating good but like now I'm like finishing up the last one
Starting point is 00:37:36 I wanted to play and now there's nothing else. Cool. All right. I'll go back outside after that. All right. Time to get outside, touch and the grass. I like going outside. Going outside is good. That's part of the year.
Starting point is 00:37:49 The singular time I go outside. Ooh, this is an interesting one actually. So I think we made an entire episode around this. So it's not one, what one single person said. Oh, okay. The Dragon Ball fan base are the worst. Oh, man. Do we still agree with that?
Starting point is 00:38:08 No, I think we all changed our minds. Okay, here's the thing. I think we all agreed that my hero is the worst. Here's the thing, okay. I think right now the worst fan base is Jesus Christen, right? Right? It's definitely right now. Wait, wait, what do you mean?
Starting point is 00:38:24 What do you mean? I'd say definitely top three. What do you think is worse? What makes it worse? What makes it the worst? They won't shut the fuck up about it. That's just the memes of fire, bro. Everyone's, yeah, that's the big advantage.
Starting point is 00:38:36 That's like saying humanity is like the worst fan base. And everyone is a fan base. Who is, who is, what fan base is worse than the JJK finder right now? What are you talking about? They have no fan base right now. They do, they do. Whenever I see them, I'm like, stop it.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Yeah, but they're like 10 years old. They're like an endangered species now. They're like, oh, you know, let's, let's, the last time I thought, I saw someone, like, talking about my hero academia on like any kind of social media platform. It's like a legacy hatred. It is. I hate them out of respect.
Starting point is 00:39:05 That's such a power word, legacy hatred. It's a legacy hatred. I know they don't. The show. It's a generational man. I know. Generational hate. I'm like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:13 I'm like what Dio is to the Jonathan Blatline. I am that to hating my hero. Um, yeah, even though I, we get so much shit from my hatred of my hero, people are like, when they hate on my hero again, ah, wanna stop listening to trash taste. Yeah, I don't know, I just committed. Why do you hate the My Hero Academia fan base?
Starting point is 00:39:32 They don't even done anything. I just, I just, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, Dio, I just picked the battle and I stuck with this. It's just cyber-willing, right? Yeah, I mean, like, Dio, you know, he, Jonathan didn't do anything wrong and Dio's been hating for years.
Starting point is 00:39:48 So I think that's kind of where I'm at right now. I'm just committed. So was, but I also find a funny how like, for a lot of these- Because the memes weren't good. The memes were dog shit. Was there a single good, my-heer academia meme?
Starting point is 00:40:02 No, I can't. I don't know. It wasn't funny that at one point in time, like, especially you were like, like talking like great shit about like season two, for instance. Did I? Yeah, everyone was.
Starting point is 00:40:12 Everyone was. I didn't. I mean, in order to become a hater, you need to be a fan first, right? Yeah, that's how you become. Really? I was never fan. No, no, but the biggest is true. I finished season one and I didn't continue it.
Starting point is 00:40:25 The biggest haters come from the fans. You know, the fans can turn on it. Yeah, and I think that- I've seen your opinion on Sword Art online, Joey. You can't hide this shit from me. Oh, yeah, but my hero, I didn't even watch season two. You didn't even watch the best season then? Go, go.
Starting point is 00:40:38 I think, I do think Dragon Balls are generally. Dragon Ball fans, you know, can be the loud people and a little aggressive, yeah. But also Dragon Ball's kind of ubiquitous and so much more. Dragon Ball fans are interesting because they're, some of the tears of Dragon Ball fans are simultaneously some of the most annoying,
Starting point is 00:40:58 yet some of the funniest. Yeah, they are very funny. Dragon Ball fans, I crack up from Dragon Ball, like, fans talking about it or making memes about it more than most. It's so entertaining. And I don't understand. They'll be like, this motherfucker, like, go here for real.
Starting point is 00:41:11 And they'll have a clip. And I don't get it, but I feel like it's funny. The energy is funny. It's like, yo, sell is a generational hater. I feel like as Dragon Ball fans have grown up, you know, it's, like you said, we've gone from could Goku beat AIDS to, you know, that's, that's, that's, it's, it's those. It's those kinds of like power scaling things that started off, like giving Dragon Ball fans. The My Hero community would be too afraid
Starting point is 00:41:40 to adopt such a meme. They'd be too afraid to allow such a meme in their ranks. I think that, I think that's the thing. I respect. I respect the Dragon Ball. Do you think, okay, this. Instead of being like Dragon Ball fans are the worst, who do you think is the worst fan base
Starting point is 00:41:53 in the history of anime? Is it the My Hero Academia fan base? Probably, like, fairy tale? Fairy tale? Yeah. Wouldn't you say? I mean, Jojo fans were definitely. Jojo fans were very insufferable for a while.
Starting point is 00:42:13 I think part five, the year part five was airing. It was like, it was like the meme to be like, shut the fuck up about Jojo's. Shut the fuck up. I loved it, it was great. I don't know, man, I'm thinking back to like, you know, 2015, 2016 at like the peak of fairy tale's popularity. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Like if you didn't say you liked fairy tale, you would have like entire internet movements of like, we need to cancel this man, he said he hates fairy tale. That happened to me. Really? Yeah. I remember the first time I said, I fucking, I thought Fairytale was so dog shit.
Starting point is 00:42:44 There was literally like a campaign on Instagram and like a change on org account created to be like, cancel the anime man. He said fairy tale was shit. And I'm like, bro, fucking chill out. That's why I like like Dragon Ball and Jojo's. I feel like the fan base, they run with the jokes. Oh yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:01 I like that. Well, I think Dragon Ball fans have learned a bit more self-awareness. You know, I think like five years ago, that definitely, I don't think that was that case at all. But I think as the fandom, again, I mean, a lot of fans are like much older people now. I think there is a lot more self-awareness.
Starting point is 00:43:20 And a lot of Jim Bros are very, like, into Dragon Ball now. Because, and I think one of the most positive communities on the fucking internet are just Jim Bros, right? All about self-improvements. It looked at Goku, they were just mire and his game. Yeah. Jusikison, the fan base. It's getting there.
Starting point is 00:43:38 It is, it's just new and it's popular. So it's always gonna feel like, It's new and popular, but the big difference I've seen with the Giusekison fan base is that their meme game is just top fucking tier. Yeah, that's good. And I think this is what happens when the Gen Alpha generation are getting into
Starting point is 00:43:57 like a mega popular and they just like that, like, you know, say what you want about new generations, their meme game is just like on a different tier toward any of us. But that's what I'm saying, that's what I'm saying, fairy tale. Have you ever seen a good fairy tale meme? No.
Starting point is 00:44:09 No. They couldn't even do that. I've never seen a good Ferretel episode. Yeah, exactly. So it's like, it's like the fan base is annoying. They can't, they're not self-aware, they get way too butt hurt when you shit talk their favorite show, right?
Starting point is 00:44:22 Can't even make any good memes that extend outside of the fan base. And it's just generally a shit show, like you can't get any worse than that. Bro, they're already dead, man. They're already dead. So you're saying the fairy tale family? So you think fairy tale fan base is worse
Starting point is 00:44:34 than seven deadly sins? You have like a push old than netter against them, what? What, fairytale? Yeah. Well, yeah, because they try to cancel this time. What are you? Do you think they're worse than the Seven Deadly Sins fans at their peak?
Starting point is 00:44:46 They don't exist. No one has Seven Deadly Sins fan. I mean, Seven Deadly Sins were like... In fact, the Seven Deadly Sins fans got rid of themselves after season three came out. Got rid of themselves. Yeah, they were just like, actually, J.K., I'm not a Seven Deadly Sins fan anymore. You made it sound like they fucking off themselves. Yeah, they literally off themselves from being a fan base.
Starting point is 00:45:07 They were just like, Like I actually, you know what, I actually never liked it, really, JK. It was crazy, the internet went from like loving that show to immediately wanting to me like, I don't know what this show is, I never heard of it, I don't like it, what the fuck's a Meliotis? Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:45:21 I think apparently the, I read a thing that was said, initially, Meliotis was designed not to be a perv and then they added that in after the fact or something. Something strange like that, I don't know, but if it was true, it's the biggest fucking deserve. All right, who did you do that, Who do you think is the horniest fan base? Wait, why?
Starting point is 00:45:43 Right now, it's the freer and family. Why do we, why are we talking about the horiest? Right now it's the free run. Because I saw a tweet the other day, which was just like, what would you rather have a chainsaw man's son or a Jigizsikaisen daughter? Cause like, I think I'd off myself.
Starting point is 00:46:03 What's that about a Jizu Kaysen daughter? Have you not seen the post where it's just fucking Nani? like holding the hair and like the tweet blowing up and just be like, yo, yeah, yeah. I did see the thread of like the thirstiest tweet. Yeah, the thirstickees and the guys and thirst traps right now.
Starting point is 00:46:19 And it's just like, yeah, yeah, like the fucking female fan base on just like fucking Gojo and Nanami and all of the male characters. It's scary. Yeah, it's fucking scary to watch. But also seeing the male fan base. This is like an actual thing.
Starting point is 00:46:35 It's like a meme. Wait, I've not seen this. It's, it's, I have not seen this. What the heck, this is great. That's so good. And it's just like, that one,
Starting point is 00:46:50 or Chainsillman, saw that post of the, the left one there, the left one, go to the very left one. Yeah, I remember there was that one tweet that went viral where it was a girl, like her husband,
Starting point is 00:47:00 her husband was like filming her, like, going up to all the nanomies and like, I just like, enjoying it a lot and just like pulling their hair and she was like oh I would have zip. She has better restraint than me. I would have zipped his pants down as that was happening. I'm just like, yo!
Starting point is 00:47:17 This is just like the Yowie paddle culture all over. Yeah, right? I mean, I mean, yeah. It's wild to be behaving like that. I can't, I can't say that that's any better from how I've seen the chainsaw man fan base act towards fucking Machima. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Like every, it's like, I swear to God, every time Markima is mentioned during a live stream or something, there will be one person that just goes whiff. Yeah. And that's an Instaband on my chat. You know, both are equally as a gun bad. Yeah, now that we say that,
Starting point is 00:47:54 I think the worst fan bases are the ones that just make you take a step back and go, chill out. Like actually chill. You know, we always are going too far. We are pretty open with our, you know, tastes in terms of like culture and stuff like that. You know, even, there are some fan bases that, even I see that, I'm just like, whoa, that is a,
Starting point is 00:48:17 damn, people are down bad. Yeah. People are fucking down bad. Oh yeah, oh yeah. Yeah. We do some wild stuff at conventions. Yeah. I mean, convention, convention culture has evolved, but at its core, at its core, it has remained the same.
Starting point is 00:48:34 I didn't know about this meme. That's so funny. It's so cursed. It's just a guy said, would you say that the Black Butler fan base at its like peak would be better than these ones? Or? Maybe I don't, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:48 You know what was the worst fucking fan base in anime? Hitalia fans. Holy shit, why? You're so right, actually. They are, oh my God, legitimately not fucking worse. Oh my God, that's, they were so bad, we all erased them from our minds.
Starting point is 00:49:03 There's probably a lot of people watching this. Never even heard of Hital. Good. Yeah, good. This, we could move on. We have moved on from the, Italian-based for a reason. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:13 All right, next one. What the fuck's it is? Trash anime are superior because it's easier to watch. Oh, I, I, I, I, I said this. I mean, I would, I would, okay, I would expand this out. I should agree with this, by the way. What a beta?
Starting point is 00:49:29 Easier to watch. What are you talking about? Explain yourself. Explain myself. All right. What is most of the media? you guys watch? The what?
Starting point is 00:49:36 What is most of the media you guys watch? Would you say it's like top tier fucking s tier entertainment? Or is it like 90% slop most of the time? Slop. Yeah. We love the slop. I would say like, you know, a lot of people, a lot of people get up on me from being like, oh, why you fucking watch Issaquay?
Starting point is 00:49:55 Why, why are you watching this like shitty TV show? And I'm just like, most of the media everyone consumes is slop that uses like 2% of your brain power. Because it's like, it's just comfort food. Without watching the slop, it would make you appreciate the fucking Oscar-worthy, media, films, TV shows that you end up consuming, right? Sure, sure.
Starting point is 00:50:16 You need to humble yourself sometimes. And sometimes humbling yourself is eating the equivalent of just a McDonald's chicken nugget, you know? You know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, I get that, but to say that it's easier? I just, okay. I'm not too sure. You must have had this, okay, you must have had this before, right?
Starting point is 00:50:36 Yeah. You got like a night off and you're like, I want to put something on. Okay. You let up Netflix and it's just like, maybe it's like the newest invincible season that's just been in Amazon Prime. Yeah, it's, oh sorry, Amazon Prime.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Or just a new hype TV show that's come out and you're like, ah, that's, I don't really want, I don't really feel like that right now. Okay. And then you just scroll down and you're like, don't know what you're going to watch. So you just watch, you end up putting on the same,
Starting point is 00:51:02 fucking TV show or some like. So you'll see a good TV show and you'll be like, nah, I want bad shows. Sometimes you're just like, sometimes you're like, ah, I don't, I don't really, because TV shows take like, especially good ones, they take like investments, right? Do they not?
Starting point is 00:51:18 I mean, look, for me, you know what I mean? For me personally, I'm the crazy one. Okay, if it's a good TV show, I just watch it. Yeah, for me personally, the only time nowadays I load up Netflix is to watch that good show. Yeah, I just won't put anything on it. Yeah, if I don't feel like, if I, if I'm not gonna
Starting point is 00:51:32 of Netflix to watch Slot. What do you watch when you're eating? Just like YouTube. Just YouTube? Yeah. Okay. Like some of my favorite channels, or if like a creator I like uploaded a video, I'll watch that or like if I see something, you know, in Recommended that looks interesting, I'll watch that.
Starting point is 00:51:48 So exactly, some people's vices are like YouTube. Some people vices are like shitty reality TV show. Some people just wanna end the day and watch 90 day fiancee for like the ninth season. That blows my mind. I don't understand that. It's, it's, it is the same slop, but here's the thing, the only, for me personally,
Starting point is 00:52:07 the only reason why I know about shows like that is because other people tell me about them. I don't sit down and watch 90 day fiance. Yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't watch nine day fiance, but I would watch a guy who's watched all of 90 day fiance, give me a 20 minute of bridge, to the best moments. Yes. Wait, wait, because I don't want to watch
Starting point is 00:52:23 watch 90 day fiance, but I don't mind watching an occasional funny he-he-ha-ha-ha. Would you watch something like Kitchen Nightmares, then? I've never watched an episode. Come on, everyone has like one trashy reality TV advice. I would never watch it for now. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:52:37 I'm trying to think what is that trashy show that I would like. Like everyone has like a trashy comfort TV show they like, Iron Chef, I guess. Iron Chef, I guess. But that's not even trashy, that's just good television. Yeah, I've got it. So I don't know, man. I've never seen Iron Chef before.
Starting point is 00:52:52 That's because you're wasting your time watching fucking 90 day fiancee God. I'm not okay. I don't want to watch 98 fiancé. What's a Japanese name for Iron Chef? Uh, Diori no Tetsu. Yeah. Yeah. Fucking great show. The dub's great.
Starting point is 00:53:05 The dub is fantastic. My favorite dub anime. I only watch one dubbed anime. What's the name of the guy? He keeps going, Mr. Sasaki's done? Or something like that. Oh yeah, oh, fucking, what was his name? I don't know what his name was,
Starting point is 00:53:17 but if you're at the entire thing, goes, Mr. Hiroshi, why are they doing this? Why, I'm glad you asked, you're actually preparing the fish in this way. It's so good. It's such a good TV show. It's such a good TV show. Pete loves the show.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Pete quotes this all the time. If you tell Pete, you're like, hey, Can you say the intro? Sakai-san. Yeah, Sakai-san. Yeah, Sakai. If you guys Pete, say the intro, he'll go over the whole like,
Starting point is 00:53:38 three-minute intro monologue. He'll say it. He just, he just, do it. And the guy, yeah, because the guy does the same thing. He always, like, goes up to the fucking steaming pile of ingredients, picks up a bell pepper, bites into it, and then looks into the camera. Yeah, he's so dramatic.
Starting point is 00:53:51 He's, it's so good. I'm kidding! I don't know what he's saying. I just realized, I don't think of, I just realized, I don't think of, Cause they want! It's so dramatic. I think I've ever seen a single episode of this.
Starting point is 00:54:05 Can you show it actually? Yeah, every iron, iron chef ingredient because it literally just does the, yeah, being dramatic and then saying it. It's so funny. Every iron chef ingredient YouTube video. Yeah. That one, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:17 That one. Damn, eight minutes long. Oh, you just watch a little bit. Okay. It's so dramatic. It makes sure to watch this again. I love this host. Look at how dramatic this is.
Starting point is 00:54:33 It's actually the best show. What is that? Oh, Takeda-noko. And the guy's so like... Oh, no, no, no, no, no, it's gonna be great. Because every ingredient, he delivers it differently. It's not always hype. But I'm, I'm, I appreciate gonna hear high with you know.
Starting point is 00:54:55 Banana shit. It's so good, man. It's so good, man. It's so good. You actually go to see, stop watching 90s if you want to say, watch some real television. Actually go to TV, do it. Okay, what do you guys count as trash TV then?
Starting point is 00:55:11 Just like reality TV. Like, like, you know, the Big Brother equivalents. I know people love Survivor, but I don't really fuck with Survivor. I never, yeah. I don't know, like they played on TV in Australia, but like I just never watched them. I mean, Big Brother I could never really get into. Oh, so bad. I don't know, like Big Brother was never my reality trash TV. I don't, like, to me, my reality trash TV was like, Kitchen Nightmares.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Anything Gordon Ramsey, that was pretty much here, where I'm like, I know the formula, I know the formula, I know, exactly how this is gonna play out. I'm gonna watch it anyway. You had Gordon Ramsey, I had this motherfucker. All right, my favorite dog Gordon Ramsey's when they just started adding him to like critique just random things. Like he did like hotel hell.
Starting point is 00:55:53 He's just critiquing hotels. You're like, well yeah, if my bet had cockroaches are they, I think I could have said that this was shit. I don't necessarily need Gordon Ramsey to tell me a hotel sucks. Anyway, I don't know why he went to hotels where I'll, he had his own game show for a while too. He was a host of a game, it was so bad. type of Gordon Ramsey game show host.
Starting point is 00:56:12 He was like a host of a generic question game show and it was just didn't work. Yeah, bank balance. Bank balance is a British star by Gordon Ramsey. I think I had one or two seasons. It was just bad. It was like, yeah, look up, 4.2.
Starting point is 00:56:27 It was like him trying to be a generic TV host. Yeah. It just didn't work because he couldn't, he couldn't go into the kitchen and roast the shit out of people. He's very good on camera, obviously. I mean, he wouldn't have got this far, but his strengths just didn't suit being a,
Starting point is 00:56:40 a generic host, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. He's much better. Okay. But that was because he owned, I think Gordon, he owns the production company. Right.
Starting point is 00:56:47 I think, so he, you know. But I think that's why he's so successful is that he's really smart. Okay, okay. Hey being. Yeah. Next one. Next one. I skip all video game cutscenes. That's you.
Starting point is 00:57:00 It is me, yeah. Um, yeah, I don't do this anymore. I don't skip all the, what's, uh, what, was there ever a point where you're like, was it, because, what was the game that changed? What was it, was it, was it, was it, Was it stream that bullied you into?
Starting point is 00:57:11 Yeah, I got bullied into it. Rightfully so. I got bullied into. What was the game where you're like, alright, this ain't so bad actually. This ain't so bad. Yeah, it was kind of cool because I realized that when you don't skip them all,
Starting point is 00:57:23 everything kind of makes sense. I was like, it's kind of cool. That's kind of like saying like, yeah, you know, when I'm reading a book and I don't skip like seven pages, it kind of makes sense, you know? Yeah, but I think, you know, and to still some extent, I can still,
Starting point is 00:57:36 I reckon there's a lot of games I can still skip the cutscenes and enjoy the game. Like, yeah, because I think not all games, I need the cutscenes, because I think some games, it's more about the gameplay for me still. But something like Final Fantasy or JRP, I think I could, I think I could still probably skip- What about, okay, what?
Starting point is 00:57:54 Just because the comp- Yeah, but you won't be as invested. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah, I think I could still enjoy it. Cause I, you know, like, Final Fantasy seven, great story, everyone talks about. But for me, the one thing I really loved doing was just the material system in the original
Starting point is 00:58:06 was amazing. Yeah, and getting to like theory craft, builds with the material was so fun. Yeah. And so how many hours did it, did you have to play before, like clicked with you about like, story?
Starting point is 00:58:18 No, not even a story. That you were actually enjoying. The menu system, where you were like theory crafting. And eight, it sucked. I didn't like it in eight, even when I finished. I just don't, I actually, it was kind of fun,
Starting point is 00:58:30 but seven, like, when I realized the amount of combinations you could make is when I was like, okay, I'm like smoking that, that material I was like, yeah, I'm down. This is good. Shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:43 But I, you know, I think JRPGs, definitely I wouldn't skip the cutscenes anymore. Yeah. But also I realized that I don't, and I said this on another episode, I don't like voice acting in the cutscenes. What do you mean? Wait.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Aren't you literally a voice? Yeah, yeah. So for me personally, I realized the dichotomy of my life is that as a voice actor, I should love these things, but as a consumer. Why do you hate them? I don't. For me, the games, I love being able to,
Starting point is 00:59:11 and this may be a stream thing too, but even personally, like I like being able to read the scene at my own pace and like voice it myself as well. Which is saying that's for stream, but even like personally. I'm like the opposite. I don't like sitting there being like,
Starting point is 00:59:26 all right, tell me. And they act it all out for me. Like no, I like doing it myself. I need that voice icing. I remember like, so obviously, you know, I'm on like a big kind of journey right now with the trail series of JRP. So the original, like, it took me like half a year
Starting point is 00:59:42 to get through the very first game, number one, because it's like a big introductory. But number two, it was so hard for me to like immerse myself in the characters because they didn't have, it was like an old school JRP, no voice acting involved at all. And it was only months in did I find out, oh, there's a patch where you can add voice acting to it.
Starting point is 01:00:01 And after I added the patch, I was like, oh my God, this is no longer like torturous for me to get through. You know, I mean, but like in some senses, I also have my own idea of how I interpret the character, which may be different from what the director has attempted that character to be. And to me, that's actually like, I prefer being able to explore that dialogue given to me
Starting point is 01:00:24 through the lens of how I interpret that character, which I can't do. So what you're telling me is, is that if the original Final Fantasy 7 had voice acting, you would have skipped it. I would not have enjoyed it as much. Yeah. And maybe you shouldn't make those,
Starting point is 01:00:36 you shouldn't play the remix. Yeah, the remake. look boring to me and then when I see the cutscenes, I'm like, no. Okay, actually I like being able to voice it. Actually, I do have a big, I had a big problem of playing the remake and a lot of it was to do with the voice acting.
Starting point is 01:00:52 Mostly because, you know, I'm used to anime voice acting but seeing like the lips not be like perfectly in sync with what the characters are saying, that like threw me off a little bit. Oh, it syncs to the English, that's why. No, no, no, no, the FF7 remake? No, it synced to the Japanese, isn't it? No.
Starting point is 01:01:08 They don't care about lip flaps in Japanese. It's synced to the English. Are they? Yeah. Some of the voice acting felt so off. The 16 as well was synced to the English, same with rebirth. It's all synced to the English voice acting.
Starting point is 01:01:19 Oh, because I switched to Japanese because like the English. That's why I had to play 16 in English. Yeah. Because originally I was in Japanese and I'm like, these motherfuckers sick into the English. No, because. There's less of a, there's less of a care normally.
Starting point is 01:01:31 No, I know, I know that 16 was synced to English because that was like, you know, all British voice actors I think I was written in English. And that's, I really enjoyed that voice acting, but in the seven remake, the first like eight hours or so I was playing, normally I just want to like dull out and just not read and just listen to the voice acting.
Starting point is 01:01:52 And so I, you know, I had it on English in default and it just like, it just felt off in some scenes. Was remake sync to the English? Because Rebirth, the second game is definitely synced to the English now. Right. Maybe, maybe, yeah, can you check? Yeah, I don't know. For me, it's like all the stories I've really enjoyed
Starting point is 01:02:11 in the games I've played, the ones where I get to like read all the dialogue. Your mind just doesn't make sense. You're like, I do not like reading, except for the times when I have to read. Yeah, I mean, I guess because like I, again, like I get to see all the interpretations. Is it because you get to like control the pacing?
Starting point is 01:02:27 Yeah, the pacing, I hate it when like, and I realize this is probably why I'm never gonna play a persona game is that like it's 50 hours of all voice acting dialogue that I can have no input on. And I don't get to like interact with that in any way. Yeah, but the characters are sick. But that's part of the game for me
Starting point is 01:02:42 is being able to interact in that way. So wait, would you enjoy, would the idea of persona be more enjoyable for you if it just didn't have any voiceizing in it? Or if I could just turn it off. I'm pretty sure you can turn it off. But then that's also everyone, if I ever played it on stream and people would like,
Starting point is 01:02:57 why did you turn it off? Why did it off? At least with Final Fantasy 7, the original, no one fucking, you know, because they actually did make a, there's a fan patch. Yeah, yeah. But they'd voice acted everything.
Starting point is 01:03:07 was pretty good. Okay, so in the remake, the lip sinks are different in both English and Japanese. Oh, okay. Why did the voice acting feel so off then? I don't know. In English or in Japanese? In English.
Starting point is 01:03:19 Most people were okay, but sometimes especially like there were some scenes where a lot of the NPCs just sounded like off. Oh, the NPCs, yeah, kind of sound off, definitely. But at least like the main cast sounded good. Yeah, it- Like Barrett's voice in English? I played a Super Mario RPG remake recently. What a fucking great game.
Starting point is 01:03:41 It was so fucking, so good. Such a actually a go to game. It's like a 12 hour JLPG. No bullshit. No bullshit. Just a fucking banger of a game. No fluff. Yeah, music's great.
Starting point is 01:03:52 Gino. And that was so fun getting to do all the voices for that. Yeah. It was like all written dialogue, but none of it was fluff and it was just like straight to it. Like comedy as well. Yeah. Square.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Or just Squarespace. The square at the time, yeah. They just went ham. And it's just a fucking banger of it. You should play it. It's really fun. So it's a certified hood classic, man. Dude, it is.
Starting point is 01:04:12 It doesn't have any voice-aging in it. Doesn't have any voice-ed-no. Like, I'm, I have played games without voice acting before, but voice acting just like, for me, especially with story-based games, immersion is like a big thing. Yeah, for me, for me that's like, I think you're like that Wojack with the head caved in. And you're like, oh, I need them to read it for me.
Starting point is 01:04:31 No, it's like, it's, it's, what a week, JRP2 player way, you need it red to you. I read it all, God. Wait, so, so you're, you know, you can't immerse yourself if you have voices playing, but you can't immerse yourself when you fucking jack off
Starting point is 01:04:47 and there are no voices to immerse yourself in a voice my own porn. I'm gonna sort of beat off to my own performances, you're like, I need this interpreted for me. I want to interpret this myself. Oh yeah, I do like it. Oh yeah, I'm gonna come. I don't know, man, maybe your porn performances
Starting point is 01:05:03 is weird. I just think of the direction. Yeah. So what's my motivation for getting railed here? I just don't really feel it. Yeah, it's like. But then also I won't read like, if I find that like they're trying to world build
Starting point is 01:05:15 with like, they're like, we found this note in a thing and it's got like nothing to do with the main story and he's trying to tell me about this village. I'm like, I'm not reading their shit. No, that's great. That's like, that's like YouTube law videos for me.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Yeah, yeah, I want someone on YouTube to tell me what's important, what's not. No, because, okay, there's this thing in Mass Effect where you go into the menu and they have like the whole whole world history of like every war and like the breakdown of like every race in mass effect and there's and there's like a narrator that like narrates all of it for you and i spent like hours just in that menu just like because it was basically like a youtube law video where it was just
Starting point is 01:05:52 like one guy being like and then this race got into war with this race and this uh war lasted the first contact war lasted a hundred years before and and like fremen took over yeah yeah and to me that was like super fucking interesting. That sounds cool. Yeah. It's like a good way to handle it. Yeah. I think whenever I get up a collectible
Starting point is 01:06:10 and an RPG, I'm like, yo, and they're like, journal entry. Okay. Like I'm like, I'm so like, no, fuck off. Oh, fuck off. Well, where it like tells you like the law behind the item. Yeah, I'm like, oh fuck you. Or they're like, this village, 5,000 years ago.
Starting point is 01:06:27 And it's like, I don't care. That's not now. Wait, but you didn't feel that way when they do it in like Dark Souls? Uh, what do you mean? Because that's, by the way, I've never played a Dark Souls. Okay, because that's one of the few ways that the game actually, like, tells you about the law.
Starting point is 01:06:41 It's through, like, item descriptions. Yeah, I mean, that's, that's, like, that's interesting in, like, small doses, but as, it's so hard. Oh, wait, you're stacked on top of a bunch of war on you? Yeah, when you're trying to play about, when you're trying to play Dark Souls and you're getting your ass destroyed for like four hours in a boss fight
Starting point is 01:06:54 and then you pick up a vial and they tell you about something. You're like, I forgot what I forgot what I found out. Like, I don't remember any of the shit I was told us. That's fair. I was fighting for my light. But I'll watch a fun YouTube video where some guy painstakingly
Starting point is 01:07:05 assembled all the law and figured it all out and explained it. And then I'm like, this is great. Like I'm down for this. Sure, sure. But with JRPGs, you know, I really liked it. Final 15, you know,
Starting point is 01:07:14 got straight to the point. Really excited. Yeah. And I really, really, hopefully, you know, by the time this is out, I might have played Corona Trigger. We'll see.
Starting point is 01:07:20 Yeah, I want to play Crone and Trigger as well. I really want to talk about Chrono Trigger with you guys. Yeah. Because it's the, as I think someone once said, it was the original Webes. game. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:31 The webs before the new webs. What war would you say? The real webs. The Super Nintendo Weaves. Yeah, the weaves before it was cool. I don't think, I don't think we, have we ever talked about this? What is your favorite story, video game story?
Starting point is 01:07:43 Like, top three that have come to mind. Fucking modern warfare too, mate. Of all time. No Russian. No Russian. Soak, mate. Fucking travish, mate. Just remember no Russian.
Starting point is 01:07:56 Probably Earthbound is up there for me. It's the story of Earthbound. Story of Earthbound? Story of Earthbound is... I've never heard Earthbound in a conversation on Best Narrative of all time. I just think it's a really solid one and I think it enhances the gameplay
Starting point is 01:08:11 because it's like basically meteorite comes down onto Earth, let's loose a bunch of like alien forms and then there's a super powerful alien called Gygus who is trying to destroy all of humanity and the entire universe and space and time and everything and it's up to Ness and his friends to try and destroy them.
Starting point is 01:08:30 But along the way, you just encounter so many different characters and so many different worlds and times and stuff like that that it's just like perfect. It's not overcomplicated, but it's just a nice, neat little package with a big ribbon on top and it's like, yeah, this is great. This is a fun, immersive experience. Narrative-driven. It is narrative-driven.
Starting point is 01:08:50 I don't know about the best story. Your favorite. Your favorites. I played a lot of games. Yeah. I like the original Halo series a lot, even though it's kind of dumb. I love it.
Starting point is 01:09:03 Final Fantasy Six is up there for me as well. You see? Does Hado have a good story? Yeah. I thought HALA was a good story. I played up to Halo 3. Yeah, the original Thore is good. I thought Reach is really fun too.
Starting point is 01:09:13 I like the story. I like the story. All memes aside. I think Anna Tatele is actually a band. Okay, I've heard it under the tale. I mean, well, you know, that's to come from somewhere. I think you can tell what media
Starting point is 01:09:23 has affected people a lot in this day and age. By, like, the media. A lot of the times the meme game is directly proportional to how effective that piece of media is to an audience. Other three as well is also amazing story, which Undertail took a lot of inspiration from. Yeah, I don't know what game stands. I think Understells the first thing the kid in my mind.
Starting point is 01:09:47 It's a fucking great story. It's so weird. It's such a good story. And all memes and internet side, it's just a great story. Honestly, it's a great story. Great game. Yeah. It's just the fan base.
Starting point is 01:09:57 As it always is, as it's, they've grown up, like the drag-a-like, like, like, like, like, drag-ball fans, you know? Let's continue. All right, all right, all right. It's like the Yakuza-8 one where it's like, I skip this Yakuza-8 cut scene and now I don't know what's happening.
Starting point is 01:10:19 And it's like, it's just Ichibon talking to like some random dude on the street. And a guy decides to skip the cut scene and then it just immediately goes to like a Mario Kart clone. Oh, I've seen that one. And he's like, what the fuck is going on? What? What's the shot?
Starting point is 01:10:33 Rob-Boy Surfers clone too. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, what I wouldn't, what I can't wrap my head around is like when you do it during narrative-driven games, because I saw that meme, you're like, like, like, during a Spider-Man 2 cut scene. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:43 And I'm like, this is, this is like, this is so much about the narrative, you know, why would you skip the cuts of the game? Yeah, yeah. I saw, which, which game had the, was it? Oh, tales of, no, what was the game, Grand Grand Bovency? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:00 When you skip the cut scene, it would give you a summary of what the cutscene was. Oh really? Yeah, I noticed because I skipped the scenes. Oh, I didn't, so I never saw that. Yeah, when you click, yeah, you should see, it should show up.
Starting point is 01:11:14 You gotta stoop, cutscene skip, you gotta type that in. Yeah, cutscenes skip. Oh yeah, no, it says right, it's right there. Oh, yeah, look at that one. Yeah, that's the third one there. Oh. And people called the video game donkey mode. Or is Twitter coined the term.
Starting point is 01:11:30 That's actually, that's actually really new feature. You know, you know what? Actually, I- That's a neat feature. I like that. That is a good feature. Because everyone's happy. Because I will say it's, uh, it hits every demographic.
Starting point is 01:11:43 All right, all right, all right. Let me, let me pivot back to the skipping video game cutscenes. I think there should be an option to skip video game cutscenes like the Grand Blue Fantasy option because the amount of nothing cut scenes that I've had to sit through in games, against shit impacts. It's like, it's, okay, okay. Maybe I'm the one that's changed my mind, all right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:09 There are some scenes in JRP's that do not need to be there or just like very, very bloated, right? And sometimes, obviously there are some fucking massive scenes, but sometimes you're in a conversation and you're like, I don't really care what this conversation with this MPC, just give me the cliff notes. Yeah, actually. This is, this is a, give you the goddamn sign.
Starting point is 01:12:31 I also hate, I know this is not that much problem anymore, but some games still try to do this where like there's no built in pause feature during a cut scene. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause you're gonna fucking get up the door or something, bro. It was fucking annoying.
Starting point is 01:12:46 Yeah, give us a pause scene. If we can skip cut scenes, maybe not like entire cut scenes, but at least like dialogue scenes. Yeah, at least like dialogue scenes. Isn't that all scenes? No, no, no. Because a lot of cut scenes are like just action-based. Yeah, yeah, like, like,
Starting point is 01:13:01 All right, yeah. Fair enough, yeah. All right, next take, boy. Boy. I'd rather watch movies at home versus the cinema. So whose takes this? I think this is weird,
Starting point is 01:13:15 yeah, I think this is mine and jokes when we talked about movies. This stemmed from the fact that this morning we saw an article that said, new research suggests that two out of three adults would rather watch movies at home than in cinemas. Pathetic.
Starting point is 01:13:30 And we had a, perfect data set right here. How far away is your closest cinema from your house? Like, convenient? Like walk? Yeah, like walk or a- I can't walk, I need to take like a train. Yeah, same.
Starting point is 01:13:42 I mean, it's like 20, 30 minute walk. Yeah, but that wouldn't stop you, right? 20 minute walk, it's not bad at all. No, it wouldn't stop me either, I'd go. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it wouldn't stop me either, but. 20 minute walk and you can't go to the fucking cinema. That's just gonna be fucked sometimes, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:55 What the fuck? It's an effort. You get to get to get a walk in, you get to watch something on the big screen. I don't know, I feel like, No, I walk to where the cinema is. So a recent article just came out and it says two-thirds of US adult
Starting point is 01:14:08 would rather wait to watch movies on streaming. And this is, by total coincidence, we somehow have the perfect. We have two or three. I just can't understand why you wouldn't want to watch something the way it was meant to be watched. There are certain movies where, okay, I feel like you have to watch in cinemas,
Starting point is 01:14:29 for example, Dune 2, being recently released at the time of filming. I'm like, I will definitely watch that in cinemas. But you didn't watch Doom 1 in cinemas? I did not watch Doom 1 in cinemas. Uh, not because I was like. Wasn't big enough for you yet? Huh? Wasn't big enough for you yet, huh?
Starting point is 01:14:45 I don't appreciate cinema. I think I was just like busy and I was just like, oh, I'll get to it. That's how I was with the slam dunk movie as well. I was like, I'm definitely watching that in cinemas when I get around to it. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And then I never gone around to it.
Starting point is 01:14:56 We've done, it wasn't like, oh, I'll wait for this to come out home. I was like, ah, that was just, pure laziness. Yeah, it's like, I'll get to it eventually. But like, I, cause like, I think the big thing was like, I knew this was like the buildup movie. So I'm like, just, just. What the fuck, God?
Starting point is 01:15:10 Yeah, but like, Dune 2 wasn't even announced. Like, Dune 2 wasn't confirmed because they wanted to see how Dune 1 did. So you're not going to the cinemas, could have never have gotten Dune 2. It was, it was called Dune Part 1. Yeah, but why would they say a part one, you know? It was literally, Warner Brothers pulled out,
Starting point is 01:15:26 they were originally it was a deal. They were gonna do both films, they were gonna assume at the same time. And then Warner Bros. Like, actually, Let's test the water. Let's see how number one does first. Did they actually do that?
Starting point is 01:15:35 Yes. I had no idea. So you not go to the cinema go and potentially Rob does of Dune Part 2. I'm trying to help the fucking movies. I'm trying to reward. Don't try to do. This is why I don't go to the cinema.
Starting point is 01:15:47 We need to put the I-vote and stickers. This is why I, you know, I don't, I don't watch fucking Marvel movies anymore. I don't want that shit in the cinema. That doesn't fly when you watch every movie in cinemas. But I stopped watching Marvel movies. So I don't, I just don't like Marvel movies though. Yeah, but like I want all movies to keep being made.
Starting point is 01:16:04 I'm like, please keep making these. I think that's the thing. For me, it's like the films for me that make me go to the cinemas are the ones where it's like, I actually want to watch this. You're the kind of person who goes to the cinemas and just goes, let's see what's playing. Yeah, to relax. I don't do that.
Starting point is 01:16:18 For me, the time I go to the cinemas where I'm like, this is a movie I have to watch. Yeah, like, you know, that's why I watch Avatar in cinemas. I think that was the last movie I watched in cinemas, which was Avatar. That was so fucking long ago. That was two years ago. No, it was one year ago.
Starting point is 01:16:34 Oh, the newest one? Yeah, yeah. I thought you with the first one. I was like, Jesus Christ. There was a new one that was not released. Yeah, no, it was, it was... You're talking about Avatar too, right? I was talking about Avatar 2.
Starting point is 01:16:44 Okay, okay, okay. And I was like, okay, this is a movie I need to go out and watch in cinemas, right? Same with Dune right now, which is why I'm like, Dune 2, I regret, you know, because I do actually regret not, Not watching Dune 1, part one. You've watched Dune 2 twice to make up for it. Maybe I will. I've heard it slaps a lot. You do. You have to go and watch it twice to make up for six.
Starting point is 01:17:06 But yeah, I'm watching Dune 2 this week. But that's a movie specifically where I would like to experience that in cinemas. Yeah. Most of the movies I watch, I'm like, I do not have any want or drive to need to go out to cinemas to watch this. I'm fine waiting to watch this in the comfort of my own home. And for me, that is like, that is like a lot of movies. You know, that is, that is unfortunately, a lot of movies where- I like the luxury of just knowing that if I need a piss
Starting point is 01:17:40 in the middle of the movie, I can pause it at home. That's the reason, Joey. Yes. Joey. Bro, what is your bladder now? Because my bladder is the size of a fucking peanut. Just don't drink. And I literally can't drink during a movie, which sucks when the
Starting point is 01:17:56 the movie is three hours long and by the end of the movie, I'm just like, I don't even know how long Dune to watch because I was just so enthralled that I never wanted it to end. Yeah, I mean, but like to me, Dune is like, Dune is an outlier. How many movies are- Well, he won't go piss? Two hours, 46, almost three hours. It's amazing. Like, how many movies would you say
Starting point is 01:18:17 are on the same experience as something like Dune then? You're like, Johnwick, part four. Actually, all the Johnworks were as good as this for me. I didn't, I didn't. Which you also didn't watch in the series. Because you're a piece of shit. I had a great experience. You did not.
Starting point is 01:18:31 You did not. No, you did not. I had a great experience at home. I'm just saying, that shit. You're all last at home, man. That shit slapped at home. Yeah, that's great. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:43 I mean, I was on the edge of my couch. We are not the same. You watch movies, I enjoy cinema. We are not the same, okay? We are not the same. You are not the same. Google Gaga watch, yeah, I, cinema, I enjoy cinema, Oppenheimer.
Starting point is 01:19:03 Is that way you, is that way you skip on-hitch. I actually know, okay, last movie I watched was Oppenheimer in cinema, which was. It's also coming out in Japan like next week. Yeah, which was an amazing, which was an amazing Cinemas. I'm gonna watch it again in Japan because I wanna watch it again.
Starting point is 01:19:16 I was for think it'd be fucking hype. You think so? I think the last one was the last movie. I wanna watch it again because it was so good and I didn't watch it in IMAX, so I really wanna go watch it in IMAX. How many movies I've watched in IMAX? I think I've only seen
Starting point is 01:19:26 one movie in IMAX actually. You should watch Doin 2 in IMAX. For the first time. It doesn't make like an incredible amount of difference, but like I think it's, some of the shots are amazing. I don't know if I like IMAX. If you sit right in near the front, it's like, oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:19:42 It's like. I love Aracas. I remember watching the first Star Wars remake, not remake, the, uh, number seven. Number seven, yeah, Star Wars seven because a mate dragged me. And he was like, we gotta experience in iMacs and it bothered me that i couldn't see everything that was going on at once
Starting point is 01:20:01 you know i'm like i'm like i get it the whole deal with iMAX is like it stretches your peripheral vision yeah either imax or go to the um there's the theater and the one in the cabuccia tower where the escape room is yeah um they they some really famous composer designed the sound system that it's really good and all the movie i watched supermarry movie there peaches when he started singing peaches in that song my fucking call was being shaking i saw simire brothers in cinemas. Yeah, it was amazing. Yeah, that was great.
Starting point is 01:20:30 Actually, maybe I have watched more in cinemas than I realized. Yeah, I've watched that in cinemas. I watched the Napoleon movie in cinemas. Yeah, me too. I could have watched. I enjoy cinema. You enjoy cinema.
Starting point is 01:20:40 I could have watched your slop. I could watch the Meg too. I could have watched Stephen Mario Brothers movie at home. Yeah, you could. You could. But I don't feel like I would have lost anything watching the Mario Bros movie at home. I'm just saying the only reason I went to cinema,
Starting point is 01:20:56 is not for the cinematic experience. It's just because I was like, well, I just wanna see it, you know. To be fair, when he sings peaches, it's pretty hype, it's gonna. I was like, this is fucking great. I was actually laughing. I was like, this is great.
Starting point is 01:21:11 The only time he'll listen to lyrics. I can't wait for Jack Black is in Minecraft. Have you seen this? They keep teasing Jack Black and Minecraft. Yeah. No. He's in the Minecraft movie. The one. He sings in it.
Starting point is 01:21:24 Yeah. Okay, you've sold me. Yeah, exactly. That's all I needed to hear. The other one that keeps fucking blowing my mind as well is that like Elijah Wood is playing as the green Among Us. Yeah, Jack Black will play the lead role of Steve. Yeah, and Elijah Wood is playing the Green Among Us.
Starting point is 01:21:42 But Jack Black is playing Steve, say no more. Like I'm sold. Like, especially if he sings in it, it's game over, bro. That movie looks great. What timeline are we living in? The best timeline. I think any movie that would have been mid, If you put Jack Black in it,
Starting point is 01:21:57 it suddenly becomes a fun movie, like a great fun movie. That's true, but that's always been true for any Jack Black. I mean, that's why they put him in comedy. That's why they put him in everything. I feel like, I feel like now we're just like, we've, this is the new age Adam Sandler movies.
Starting point is 01:22:13 You know what I mean? Like, we've wondered where, we've won. We've won. What are you talking about? No, go and watch the Meg one. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, I put some respect behind whose name, like Jack Black or?
Starting point is 01:22:26 Jack Black or. Or Adam Sandler. And Adam Sandler. He also makes great fun. I'm saying like with the new meme movies, like, remember when we were like, I think we had a discussion about where the fuck of modern comedy movies gone,
Starting point is 01:22:37 you know, like Adam Sandler movies. DVD's died. Yeah, DVD dies. DVDs have died. But now I feel like it's, now I feel like that space is now going to get occupied by, hey,
Starting point is 01:22:47 let's just make a meme internet's movie that's, that's, I can't wait to see the among this movie. That's, that's, that's, that's, that's the new like, And like I said, the new Adam Sandler movies, you know, where it's like, oh, what IP are they gonna milk next?
Starting point is 01:23:01 Oh, okay, Roblox, all right, all right. I'm down. Oh, they got the Amongus movie, which is like, I don't know what the fuck that's going to be about. Is that going to be a comedy movie or a horror movie? Oh, and fucking Frodo Baggins is in that shit. So it's like. Is Chris Pratt going to be in it?
Starting point is 01:23:16 Probably. He's the Red Among Us. So, yeah, I mean, but that's that. So what's the next thing that we're pulling out? Jerry. All right, what do we got? Among Us the Movie 2000, what is that? I don't know what that is.
Starting point is 01:23:31 I think that's just- That seems like a meme. That's a different one, yeah. It's only got 37 votes on it. Okay, okay. All right. Oh, okay. You can't be real friends unless you meet in person.
Starting point is 01:23:42 Well, I think this was like a super, super early episode that we talked about this, right? I think we've talked about this topic a couple of times actually. Um. I mean, it's obviously a lot more nuanced. Yeah. I think the underlying concept.
Starting point is 01:23:56 I agree with. I think it's a form a real, real friendship. One that really stands a test of time requires you to have met the person. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. The more people I talk to now, especially with like online content creators,
Starting point is 01:24:11 I think one of, I've, you know, I've heard of a lot of beef going on behind the scenes with online content creators, with people after they have, you know, talked online, the vibe seems to be good. and then they meet IRL, and then that's where... It's completely different.
Starting point is 01:24:29 You know, you think about where the tensions always started and is always like, oh, someone has a weird quirk or weird way. I was friends with the person on Discord, and then we shared a hotel room together. And now I'm not friends with them anymore. You hear that so many goddamn times in the creator scene. And it's because, like, yeah, you're making... It's almost like, you know,
Starting point is 01:24:50 you can, like, pick and choose how you want to be seen when it's an online friendship because you have more control over it. Whereas online or rather in person it's kind of more difficult to do that because it's easier to get a vibe check on someone and immediately be like, oh okay, you're not the same person
Starting point is 01:25:08 I was talking to on Discord, you're very different. So which one of you is the real you? I mean, if anything, I'd say, like you have the most new experience with this Connor since one, you probably collab with the most people online and also you're like really close to Iron Mouse as well. Yeah. Which, do you remember back in the day when you were like,
Starting point is 01:25:29 oh, what the fuck is V-chubis? Yeah, you're like, I fucking hate V-chus. I just like, I fucking hate V-chus. I just didn't get it. Yeah. At some aspect of the community I still don't get. Like a lot of it I still don't really gel with. Sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:40 But I'm really good friends of Mouse and that's, I mean, obviously I've never met Mouse, so it's very different. But yeah. I mean, that's out of circumstance, not out of like. Not out of once. Yeah. And I think that like obviously when I was younger as well, that was more circumstance, right?
Starting point is 01:25:54 I can't hang out with these people. Never in the same spaces as them. Sure. And I think when that's the limiting factor, you don't really care as much. But you know, when you do get older and I have 20 friends in real life that I want to hang out with and people I want to spend time with
Starting point is 01:26:07 and it's kind of hard to then justify, hey, I'm gonna hang out with people online all the time. Yeah, yeah. It's like, hey, I got people in my life who are here, but I really respect or I care for, but I want to give them the attention, give them time. Because there's, doesn't matter how close you are
Starting point is 01:26:20 to someone. you know, having that face-to-face time with people is invaluable. Being able to spend time with people is really invaluable. Physically, you know, just being in the room with someone else is really important. Yeah, that's why, like I talk to a lot of content creators, and a lot of them, a lot of people that I know personally have, I guess, like, you know, obviously you choose your friends, maybe you, they were not as close to people around them as they were to people online.
Starting point is 01:26:47 But a more often trend I see is that, you know, people would choose. to hang out with their, I guess, friends, co-workers, collaborators online, then, you know, actually meeting people in their vicinity. And what ends up happening is they kind of like stop being friends with the people around them. Sometimes they fall out with the people online and then they realize, hey, I'm like kind of lonely again, you know, and I've seen that, I've seen that happen like a few times over the years since during, like especially during COVID, when a lot of people started spending more time
Starting point is 01:27:25 with people online. And I think if you do have some people around you that you can actually, you know, that you actually want to keep a connection with, you can, obviously online friends are real friends, you know, there are real friends, but you'll always be missing a certain piece of connection unless you are there with them physically.
Starting point is 01:27:45 I think that's so important. Human touch is the most important, I think, yeah, definitely. The human touch. Just being able to do this to anyone, you know. Please never do this. Yeah, it's great. Oh God. Oh, God, he touched me.
Starting point is 01:28:00 Oh, God. I'm broke up. Yeah. I think we all pretty much still agree on that, even though it's like a very, very nuanced take. So let's move on to the next one. Oh, wow, wow, wow. All right.
Starting point is 01:28:17 Watching videos at 2. time speed is acceptable. Hell no, it's not. This one's nuanced. It's nuanced. It's nuanced, it's nuanced. It's nuanced. You're not watching your consuming, Gant.
Starting point is 01:28:29 There's a difference. How many videos you watch at normal speed? What the fuck you're talking about? All of them. Huh? I watch all videos at normal speed. Everyone, even like fucking YouTube videos, every. Yeah. No fucking way.
Starting point is 01:28:43 No shot. The only time I'll speed up a video is if it's like a tutorial or something. I'm trying to find a, I'm looking for a certain bit. Oh, I don't even do that. But like, I'll never, like, when I'm watching saying to enjoy it, I'll never speed it up.
Starting point is 01:28:56 Why would I want it to be over faster if I love it? Yeah. I wanted to be the pace it was meant to be enjoyed. Yeah, if there is like a piece of like content where I'm like, I wanna fully sit down and immerse myself in this piece of content. But, but if it's just like- Like, imagine gonna watch fucking Dune in the cinema. Like, hey, can you crank it up to one-pon?
Starting point is 01:29:14 I'm never, okay, I'm never going to watch Dune at two-time speed. You know, but a lot, there's a lot of YouTube videos out there. That's, that's deserved like the two times speed. No, okay, two times, two times is a bit, is a bit much, one point five. Listen, go, oh wow, one point five. Listen, gone, to me, if I'm watching a video
Starting point is 01:29:35 and I'm like, I can't bear to watch this at one time speed, I just don't watch the video. I back out and find a video that I actually enjoy watching, you know, that's an option too. Look, there are some people. You don't have to watch the video, man. There are some people on YouTube,
Starting point is 01:29:52 and maybe I'm also, I'm also guilty of this sometimes, but I'm just like, man, you are speaking really, really slowly. And I'm interested in the subject matter that you are trying to like, that you're talking about here. But you are narrating this at a very, very slow pace. I just can't, like, I can't, like, input anything when I hear something at two times speed. I can.
Starting point is 01:30:15 I just, I find it hard to copyright, because I'm too distracted by the fact that I'm watching this in fast forward. Sounds like skill issue, in it? It is a skill issue. And again, it's like, if it's a video where I'm like, I think that they're speaking too slowly or I think it's just not a good video
Starting point is 01:30:31 to watch it one time speed, I just don't watch it. I find another video. I think there is a lot of content out there that is good and it's like, has content that is interesting, but it's just sometimes it's just, sometimes the pacing is just off man. And I don't watch the video. Sometimes. I'll find a video with meta pacing.
Starting point is 01:30:47 Look, look. There's literally billions of videos on YouTube. It's the equivalent of, is the equivalent of, you know, watching an anime and get into the filler segment and you're like, let's just like skip the filler segment. Just let's go, let's go back to the cannon pieces and let's let's get, let's just, you know,
Starting point is 01:31:03 let's get back to the shit I care about. Yeah, again, I just don't watch it. Like, if it's a filler episode, I just skip it entirely. Would you, have you ever used the skip function on persona? No, actually. Never. Even on replays? Even on replays.
Starting point is 01:31:21 Yeah. You have too much motherfucking time, man. You have too much motherfucking time. No, it's not, it's like, I think what it is, is that like, you know, you're saying, like, for example, right, if it's a video that like, I'm super fucking invested in it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:34 But like, let's say, for example, you know, the narrator is talking just a little bit too slowly. Yeah. Or like, you know, in a slower pace where it's not as like immediately consumable. Yeah. Then what I'll do is I'll just hold on to that video and watch it at a time where I do have the time to spend
Starting point is 01:31:51 to watch that video at the one time speed. No, because like, to me, okay, there's, it, it, I don't watch everything at obviously like 1.5, two times speed. Two times is like pushing it a little bit. Yeah. Most of the time it's like 1.5 speed. I never do that for anime except if I'm watching it for work. Yeah. Which is basically when I'm going through like the seasonal slot,
Starting point is 01:32:16 I remember seeing some people being like, oh, I watch free rent at two times speed. And that is just like, that is just beyond my understanding. At that point, you're not watching it. Yeah. You're just letting it run. It's course. To me, that's all about getting immersed in like the story and the atmosphere and everything.
Starting point is 01:32:35 It's supposed to be like slow, to give you time to, you know, consume it. Okay, answer me this. What is the difference between consuming like a YouTube video at 1.5 speed, which is like more like a pace that you're comfortable with. Yeah. Versus opening a manga and being able to read it a bit faster.
Starting point is 01:32:53 Because you get to control the pace that you're like consuming this piece of content, right? That media accounts for like time. Whereas when you watch a show, they've already predetermined the time that it takes to watch it. And the pace, manga is not based for you. I don't think you've ever watched me read manga, but I read fucking slowly. No, that's, that's, but some people, but I enjoy. Read really fast, you know. Everyone, that medium accounts for that.
Starting point is 01:33:20 Yeah. Because that's the inherent. You have the freedom to do that. What do you mean that medium accounts for that though? That medium is designed around there no, being no like time constraint. You can take, you can be as fast as you can or slow as you can with it. You can look at it as much you want. That there is me, like, you know, when you watch something, there's sound effects, there's music that have all been tuned for that speed that you're watching it and gone.
Starting point is 01:33:40 You are not watching it. It's all confined to a time. That's already been pre-allocated. This is why you don't like cinema. Average cinema joy. Right. In the mind, Joyers, movie slop and joy.
Starting point is 01:33:50 What I'm saying is, you know, for some, for some pieces of media, yes, that is 100% important and tune to it. For a lot of the slop that we consume, for a lot of the media that we consume, that shit don't matter, man. That shit don't matter.
Starting point is 01:34:06 For a lot of the slop that you can. I don't fucking consume that. Oh, I'm sorry, you're watching like a cinematic masterpiece. I only watch art. Bro, you load up a YouTube video, you're like, ah, absolute cinema every single time. When I put a sounding salt video on, I'm like, fucking cinema.
Starting point is 01:34:24 I'm like putting that on the TV, full screen, turning all the lights off, getting the popcorn. That's fucking cinema. That's cinema. That's cinema, bro. Nah, nah, it's like there is too much slop out there for there to be like, for, there's like, back in the day. I only watch gigoo videos in two times speed
Starting point is 01:34:42 because that's slot. I wouldn't blame anymore for watching my view. videos at 2-000 speed, you know. I don't even do that. I don't even blame you. And everyone watching this at 1.5 or 2 speed right now, I don't care. You can- I do, fuck you.
Starting point is 01:34:55 You can, we, sometimes we rambled on for a very, very long time on trash taste. You might wanna skip through it. I don't mind, you know. I get it, I get it guys. Apparently the optimal way to get views now is if people are watching a video at 0.75. Oh, I saw that video.
Starting point is 01:35:09 What? Yeah, apparently it's 1.5, like, YouTube determines that it's, like, bad for the video or something. Right. So Gantz out here actively, rooting careers. Well, it's like, it's based on like watch time, basically, right?
Starting point is 01:35:21 Because if you quicken the pace. So you should be talking way too fast. Yeah. Sorry? You should be talking way too fast. Yeah, I mean, that's why I talk at a fast pace, actually. Ah. That's why he's chatt was pulling on.
Starting point is 01:35:36 God makes it so that you can't 1.5. I, I, I can't. He's thought of everything, guys. 15 years of YouTube knowledge right there. Look, look, the way I make my vision, is so that I can consume my own videos. It's like, this was even before 1.5, two times me is a thing. I was just like, I just,
Starting point is 01:35:54 let me just- Let me just edit out all of the breaths and all of like the pauses in my videos because otherwise I just get too bored with it. And unless I'm like trying to set like a certain atmosphere and a certain vibe with something I'm trying to say. Yeah, Giga brand so Mr. Bees could walk. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:36:12 But no, that's like a normal YouTuber thing. Missed the Beast and a TikTok have just extrapolated that to an nth degree. But, you know, a lot of times, especially if I'm watching, especially if I'm watching, like, opinion pieces, video essays a lot of the time. It's just like, I'm interested in the subject matter.
Starting point is 01:36:33 I don't really care so much, unless I know that content creator is like, you know, the way they're presenting the information is important. Sometimes, sometimes consuming content on YouTube is no different than reading a Wikipedia rascal. Do you watch John's videos in 1.5-speed? Sorry? Do you watch John's videos in 1.5-sweet?
Starting point is 01:36:52 No. John, super-upatch wolf. John's video, he does speak very, very slowly, but that is important for him to set the tone and the emotions that he's trying to... So what I'm hearing is that if I know and like the person... No! Then I will watch it...
Starting point is 01:37:09 You're missing the point, Joey. I will watch it at one-time speed. You're missing the point! If it's some, like, bullshit slot from someone I don't care about, you're getting two times, bitch. Look, if I, okay, if, if it's the equivalent of some way, this is, this is like the trash TV talk all over again, you know, if I'm watching some trash TV,
Starting point is 01:37:26 I'll fucking give a shit, just get, just, I will happily consume that shit. Okay, I will just consume personally. All right, last one, here we go. Who fuck said this? What? I just, I think room temperature water is tastier. Does someone say that? I said this.
Starting point is 01:37:45 Wait, you did? Yeah, I should. This is true. What? What was... I actually remember this. Yeah, I'm... Wait, when did we, when this? This was ages ago,
Starting point is 01:37:53 but like, it was the argument of whether you put ice in water at restaurants or not. I hear it when they fucking put ice in my water. And then you and I both agreed that like the crunchy ice is like the best ice to put in. Oh, filth, absolute filth. You remember this talk? This is like episode like 30 or 40, I don't remember this deal.
Starting point is 01:38:12 Yeah, no, I stand by this. People hate me for it, but... Wait, wait, wait, it. Explain your reasoning, re-explaining your reasoning, because I do not remember this conversation. I like drinking water. I'm a big fan of drinking water. Yeah, as a we.
Starting point is 01:38:24 Yeah, when it's too fucking cold, it's hard to drink a ton of it in one. And I wanna do drink tons of water. And it being too cold is a barrier to that. But when it's room temperature, I can just chug it and it tastes good. It's not as refreshing though. Yes, it is, that's false.
Starting point is 01:38:43 I know, but there's some chemical in my brain that says, water more refreshing. Yeah, especially, you know, coming from Australia where the summers are fucking insane. If you, if I was out all day at 40 degree heat and then someone came up to me and gave me a glass of water with no ice, I think I would scream.
Starting point is 01:39:02 I don't need ice, why don't you need ice it? Because it's more refreshing. Nah, it's not. I think there is nothing, I think there is nothing more. Okay, so are you saying you're okay with room temperature beer then? No, but that's not water. That's like saying, I'm sorry, Garn, do you like hot pasta?
Starting point is 01:39:17 Well then you must love cold steak. Well, like the whole point of cold water is that it's more refreshing, like cold beer is, you know? No, no, no, no, no, but there's no aspect of water that is enhanced by being cold. Beer. The refreshingness. The refreshing feeling of when it goes down your throat. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 01:39:34 Right. Right. It's almost as good as an ice cold beer. What is, what is the science beside something feeling refreshing actually? Why is it? The science of refreshment. Why is it that some foods, like, why is it a sum, why is there an optimal temperature for some foods?
Starting point is 01:39:52 And so Americans have been like, taught. Sorry, I just saw the auto feel of when Kai wrote, why do certain drinks? And the first thing that came up was, why do certain drinks make you angry? What? Americans are like, they're like, talk. Oh, it's just alcohol.
Starting point is 01:40:11 Alcohol. People are just like, they're like taught that every fucking drink should be ice fucking cold. And I'm just like, don't make this an American thing, okay? This is not, for once, for once keep America out of this. This is a humanity.
Starting point is 01:40:25 I remember the person, the people who reacted the hardest when I said, I don't do that, I don't like ice cold water. It was Emily and Dietus. They couldn't believe it. It was like the whole worldview had been shattered
Starting point is 01:40:35 because someone didn't want ice cold water. I can't believe it. Yeah, I can't believe it. What do you mean? I don't want it. Um, the, First quenching, temperature and cooling.
Starting point is 01:40:45 What is this? The most, okay, what makes food refreshing? Change foods to like drinks. Yeah, what makes- So it's just a preface. Like, I don't want it warm necessarily, but I just don't want it fucking cold. Any hydrate, any beverage that hydrates sufficiently
Starting point is 01:41:03 offers refreshment. There you go. It's all about hydration. It's not about, like, I, because that's like implying that, uh. Hold on, no. It's also about the experience
Starting point is 01:41:12 consuming the beverage, taste, aroma, liquid texture, temperature, visual appearance and sound. So temperature is a factor. Obviously, those are subjective experience. And for me, temperature is not one of those. Well, I could say eating cold pizza is a subjective experience, but I'm not gonna say it's like, I prefer cold pizza over like, some people do.
Starting point is 01:41:28 A hoomst, whomst. People do. People there are a lot of people other than. Yeah, but that's no one I wanna be friends with. Okay, well, then I guess you don't wanna be friends with me. You don't know a single person. I do know a single person. I'm sure there is someone inhumanity.
Starting point is 01:41:42 out there that likes cold pizza. Who likes cold pizza? I'm sure there is someone out there, but anecdotally, I don't believe you know a single person that would actually say that. Why do Americans like to eat cold pizza? They had to settle after a night in the fridge. Yeah, people love fucking cold pizza, bro.
Starting point is 01:41:59 But do you know, do you know? Yeah, I know people like cold pizza. Fuck off, Connor. I do. Fuck off. Absolutely no way. I just don't understand why it's so incomprehensible that I would prefer room temperature water.
Starting point is 01:42:11 room temperature water. The same way it's in the water. Have you not noticed that the water we always drink on these sets is room temperature gone? That's because we don't have fucking ice in this stuff. Isn't it a good thing you have to worry about how fucking cold it is? Yeah, but I would enjoy this a million times more
Starting point is 01:42:26 for that ice. I enjoy it that I can chugged it. Unfortunately, we don't have an ice machine like we used to because I remember- A nice machine? Yeah, but then I think you got destroyed. We never had a nice machine. I don't know, or maybe like.
Starting point is 01:42:37 What the heck? Yeah. We had a nice mold, but we lost it somewhere. We went for, Maybe we had like an ice mold or something. Ice molds are pain in the fucking ass. Oh, I could this, oh no, this was before we got the, uh, water dispenser. Oh yeah, we have, we have water cooler now.
Starting point is 01:42:52 It's like, cooled, which is enough. I would prefer like ice cold. I would rather drink boiling hot water than, uh, not like boiling hot. I was, I was, I was gonna say, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go and go. I was about the clap back. I was, I was, I was, I was, you know, you know, you know some of the water dispensers, they have the hot option, and the cold option.
Starting point is 01:43:12 I'd rather drink the hot than the cold option. That just destroys your entire argument. Because with the hot, you can't even drink it as fast because it's so fucking hot. Yeah, but to me, it's not just about, like, chugging it. I just don't like how it tastes as much. I think it just tastes weird when it's so cold.
Starting point is 01:43:28 To me. You, it's not only the chugging factor. But when I go to the gym. You just said, you just said it like, I swear to God you just said it doesn't affect the taste at all. It's not about the taste. Also, also does, I don't think the taste is different. Well, I mean, water tastes different at different temperatures.
Starting point is 01:43:49 I'm pretty sure it does. Can we Google this actually? No, no, no, no, no, no, we don't need to go with this. This is not, no, I know, I need science. We all. You fear the answer, God. No, no, no, no, this is, Google it. I'm going to say no.
Starting point is 01:44:05 Bro, because water, water, does water have a taste? Yes, water has a taste. Yeah, water has a taste. I don't believe it tastes different. That might sound counterintuitive, but warm water tends to taste sweeter and more acidic.
Starting point is 01:44:22 Cold water, then, suppress the sensitivity of our taste buds and quells any impurities. The water tastes like different. So cold water is more refreshing. How did you get, how the fuck did you get that? Because it quells any impurities that make the water taste slightly better. Therefore, it's clearer.
Starting point is 01:44:39 What the fuck? I have never drunk a warm cup of water. And gone, that was refreshing. And gone, yo, that changed the taste. Let's fucking go. The best water temperature for taste differentiation is room temperature in our survey of water similiers. There you fucking go.
Starting point is 01:44:58 You do not go. The water semiliers agree with me. You're all. You and your peasant taste buds. You have to have an ice cold. No. Me and the fellow similiers. Pause, pause.
Starting point is 01:45:10 Pause for a second. I don't fucking believe a single word from someone who calls themselves a water sommelier. Look, look, that is the most, John Perryy the first, taught me everything he knows about water sommelier. Water sommelier is the most, I made it the fuck up occupation.
Starting point is 01:45:29 You do, you are not sitting here for the knowledge that is forbidden God, you fear for the knowledge that haunts behind the books that you don't dare open. You cannot comprehend that room temperature water is the tastiest. Look, look, and this was the other way around, you'd be like, water simileers are made up job.
Starting point is 01:45:48 This is, it is a worthless, it is a worthless occupation. I don't know why it exists at all. I can say you, how dare you, how dare you, how dare you get on the back? I can literally, I can literally just be like, what no one even knows what a water sommelier is, what is this chat? It's one of the most, it's crazy.
Starting point is 01:46:05 It's one of the most respect. I have never had a glass of water and would have been like, hmm, This would have tasted a little better if it was a five degrees warmer. What if the pH in the six? Don't get mad at the similiers for your poor palate. Don't get mad at them for you, your lack of knowledge.
Starting point is 01:46:24 Do you drink water for the taste? No, the refreshment. Exactly. Yes, exactly. But nobody. But it's a bonus, because the taste is, as we all have now learned, superior at room temperature.
Starting point is 01:46:37 So I can rejoice at my room temperature water. You drink it for the refreshment and the refreshment of, you could give me fucking, you know, untainted water from the Antarctic that has been like chiseled off the ice caps and fucking tap water. Actually, I think that some of that is tainted, actually. Whatever. Whatever the purest form of war.
Starting point is 01:46:59 Yeah, the ice caps and only salt. Whatever the purest fucking water you could like think of versus like fucking British tap water. A volcano spring. A volcanoes, sure. Sure. I'm not saying words. Volcanoes?
Starting point is 01:47:14 I know springs are normally where the good water comes from. Whatever the fuck they are. I don't know, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Wait, are the water up in the Arctic like tainted? Or you're just like... It's salt water, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:47:26 Salt water doesn't freeze. Yes, it does. Yeah, salt water freezes. The ones in the Arctic are freshwater. You think salt water freezes, of course it does. Oh, can have heavy metals and persistent organic pollutants? This is why your water, your...
Starting point is 01:47:42 No, it says pollution in the Arctic Ocean, not the Arctic, not the fucking ice caps. All right. Okay, are the Arctic ice caps pollution? In like, sorry, Antarctica and all that shit. Like, okay, hold on, I can't wait for the heavy metals. In this, yeah, look, it's the fucking ice that has been untouched for like generations.
Starting point is 01:48:03 Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Nah, no, bro, it says it's called Mercury and microplastics. Ain't no way. Ain't no way. The Arctic ice has mercury in it? How the fuck do that happen? Nah, nah. This, God's like, this caffin.
Starting point is 01:48:22 This cap is a mistake. This cat is, this is mercury. The main contaminants in the Arctic region are heavy metals, such as mercury and lead and persistent organipolns. How the fuck did they get in there? This ice is like millennia old, what the fuck? You know it goes in cycles, right? It's not like always, all of the things
Starting point is 01:48:43 are always frozen all the time. Some of it freezes and some of it thaws. Well, not the fucking, not Antarctica. Antarctica, okay, like the... What do you mean, Antarctica's literally melting? I know Antarctica's melting. But if it melts, if it, if it, yes, it goes in cycles over the course of like fucking millennia,
Starting point is 01:49:02 you know. Actually, this might be a good test on knowledge of Antarctica. How much do we know about Antarctica? Fuck on. Okay, one thing that I've always wondered, right, about Antarctica, um, uh, and the giant cap. Is it, it's just, it's all ice, isn't it? It's not, or is it a landmass that has a ton of ice and then a surrounding area
Starting point is 01:49:21 with a giant ice perimeter? Wait, what? And, uh, you know, like the ice cap, right? Don't, don't Google this guy. What, what are you asking? Like the, the, because there's two, two layers of the ice caps. Are you saying that there's a land island underneath all the ice? Uh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:36 What do you mean there's two layers of ice? So, this, So the ice caps have the ones that constantly thaw and freeze. And then when the summer they thaw, and then it builds up again when all of it starts collecting. But there's one permanent chunk of ice that normally doesn't melt, but obviously now it is melting things like a little warming.
Starting point is 01:49:53 Yes. But I wasn't sure if there's any land underneath that. I believe there is land. Yeah, how big is that land? How big is that land? I always wondered that. I don't believe it's like one singular landmass, but it's like a bunch of ones.
Starting point is 01:50:04 It's like lots of violence. Yeah, I guess we're so worthily uneducated in the shenanigans of Antarctica. Because you never get taught this shit. But all I know is that, you know, because if Antarctica melts. And then freeze again, you know that, right? Sorry.
Starting point is 01:50:21 The outer area of- Yes, I know like the outer area is constantly different, but you know, more and more is melting like each year. So that the more you go inland, the less the ice has been like changed just because it's been there frozen for like so fucking long, right? I'm not saying anything because I know, fuck all.
Starting point is 01:50:42 That's like, I think that's like more so, isn't like deep ice though? That's like the really like the lower layers of the ice that hasn't, because obviously the top layers are like re-freezing. Because that's how they can, because they, the reason why we have a lot of information about the planet is because they dig into that ice cap
Starting point is 01:51:00 to get samples. Yeah, exactly, right, because it basically is a, it basically is a record of like earth. Because layers keep freezing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 01:51:12 So, you know, up there we have, like, ice that's been, like, untouched for millennia. But how big is the land? I mean, how big, can you, how big is the land underneath? Or, like, what does it look like? Or is there some kind of CG model that my simple brain can comprehend. Yeah, like, what would Antarctica
Starting point is 01:51:25 look like if all the ice smells? Point being has the ice cups ever melted? Uh, I was gonna say, point being, that water is not good. You should not be drinking that water. Point being... You might as well drink from the syringe. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:36 Yeah, see. See, I was right, yeah. Okay. There was a giant land underneath it. Huh. Point being, because that's where all the explorers try to try to get to when the iced thaws
Starting point is 01:51:46 when they used to go. Right, right, right. Because the boats couldn't really get through it. Okay. See, isn't that cool? The more we know. See, I didn't, I was pretty sure there was a land, but then when you said that,
Starting point is 01:51:55 you made me question if I was about to say something dumb that there was land underneath it. And I was like, wait, am I wrong? But then I was- Why was the land underneath it going to be a rebustle to anything else? Oh, because you were like, don't Google it, as if to be like, I just said something completely,
Starting point is 01:52:08 I was just, I was just testing ourselves. I was just testing ourselves. I was like, I was like, if we're gonna out ourselves as dumb, let's not have Google as a. I thought, I was like, oh my God, have I, am I dumb? I thought that Antarctica was like actually
Starting point is 01:52:21 a piece of land this whole time that had ice on it. Not that anyone, like, what the heck? Not that anyone would know because Antarctica's never melted in our lifetimes or humanity's lifetime, shortly, right? No, but the, I mean, if you go to,
Starting point is 01:52:34 I have no clue. Go to Antarctica, cycle animation. Again, you can see the, it's kind of cool because it's kind of impressive just how much of it melts every year. Yeah, I mean, you would assume
Starting point is 01:52:46 that it melts during the seasons, but there is certainly a part of Antarctica that would remain like- Sea ice coverage from that. Okay, yeah, okay. Oh, that's it. Oh, so that's all the ice. But you can see, this is over the years, right?
Starting point is 01:52:58 So the, normally those chunks were permanent, the main part, but also that area that expands every year is getting smaller as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, you see it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you see it? I saw it.
Starting point is 01:53:14 Yeah, I know there's like an ice cycle with Antarctica, but I know that's like, what I was trying to say was like, in land, that ice should be fucking untouched, right? I guess. I think the surface stuff though changes. I'm not sure, though. Well, certainly there won't be fucking
Starting point is 01:53:28 microplastics in Mercury unless something's gone very fucking wrong. Uh, I mean, it depends how deep we're going, but it could be, who knows what else? Could be like ash, could be about, Ash is good for you actually. Could be, I mean, how is it any more?
Starting point is 01:53:45 Ash is good for you. Any more, you know, I think the worst that I could happen to maybe some like thousand year old bacteria. Yeah, right? Yeah, you could be getting like mad fuck bacteria in that. Oh, do you know what's fucked me over? Because like in your mind, this should be like the most refreshing water of your life.
Starting point is 01:53:59 Why is the trash taste YouTube account watch your request virtual insanity? I mean, because it's a bang of it. Who's listening to all these songs on the trash. Yo, that is a banger song. It's a bang. I'm saying, I'm okay with it. I will say.
Starting point is 01:54:12 I just, it's a banger. Yeah, do you know, what ruined it was, there was one video where the top comment was like, oh, today I learned about like the ice parasites and- Yeah, there's loads of like fucked up shit in the ice. Yeah, there's like a parasite that lives in ice. Can you search up like, like, worm or parasites? Ice parasites?
Starting point is 01:54:32 Ice parasites. Um, that just ruined my perception. of how refreshing. That is a sick man name. Ice parasite. Ice worm. Yeah. There we go.
Starting point is 01:54:42 Oh. I could be living in very old ice. Yeah. Glacier ice worms. Yeah. Yeah. Ew. God fucking damn it, man.
Starting point is 01:54:55 Gross. Also, you can't, you can't really like survive off eating snow as a water source because the amount of energy your body takes to cool it down. Yeah. so high that you'll have a hard problem hydrating yourself of just snow. Yeah, but refreshing though, right?
Starting point is 01:55:14 No, it's not. Also, snow tastes gross. If you've ever had snow. It's no, it's not. You have to boil it. Yeah, and then you have like a bunch of shit on the top and you're like, oh. But I'm not going to let go of that ice water.
Starting point is 01:55:27 No, I'm just like. I'm gonna keep enjoying my ice water. Where does the freshest water on earth come from? Yeah, go on. Also, by the way, I'm right. The overall point is that I'm right. Which, you're believing a bunch of water somalis? Yes.
Starting point is 01:55:40 No, you're not. Patagonia region. Antarctica. Antarctica, fuck. Okay, yeah. Or even upstate, no, no, fuck. Upstate New York, all right, shit. In the Patagonia region of Chile.
Starting point is 01:55:53 This is paid propaganda by the water solomies. Bro, if you ever mean a New Yorkin, it's not the right word for it. New Yorkin, what are they, what are they called? Yankee. New Yorkin? New Yorker. Yorker, yeah, New York.
Starting point is 01:56:06 Yorkin. They'll be like, you gotta understand our water's the best. That's why the pizza tastes so good. And you're like, shut the fuck up, shut the fuck up. I like that they said like, it's all countries. Canada, Iceland, Antarctica, or even, or even upstate New York. Shocker guys. All right, who, who's paid them to write this guys?
Starting point is 01:56:27 New York government is paying scientists to say this. I don't buy it. I've seen those rats. There's no way. There's no way. Those rats on there for the clean water, guys. Well, I don't know, maybe that's the reason why those rats are so massive.
Starting point is 01:56:40 It's because they get in that fresh water. Like, I'm so hydrated right now. Point is, Connor, you should change your- point is your psychotic. You should change your mind, man. I'm right. It's not enough. I'm right, and that's been trash taste.
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