Trash Taste Podcast - Last Trash Taste of 2021 | Trash Taste #80

Episode Date: December 24, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good evening. It's me, The Monk. Have you ever listened to Trash Tate and Thoughts? That doesn't seem too hard. I can do that. Well, you're in luck, because today I want to talk about Anchor, the easiest way to make podcasts, and it's completely free. Anchor will distribute your podcasts for you so it can be heard on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and many, many more. I mean, it's literally what we're using now. They have creation tools that allow you to record and edit a podcast for your phone or computer. And you can add any songs from Spotify directly to your episodes.
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Starting point is 00:01:00 says, parched. And then when you give the dog water, it says quenched. I think I learned the word parched in from the film Inside Man or inside job. I can't remember which one it is. I think it's Inside Man. Because there's an interrogation, there's an interrogation scene. And the guy's like, can you give me some water please?
Starting point is 00:01:17 My throat is parched. And then the guy is just like, bro, no one says their throat is parched. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up and tell me what's going on. Hello and welcome to another episode of Trash Taste. Such a weird way to remember a word. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:01:30 How vivid of a memory is this? So where'd you guys learn new words from? Because like, I just told you Nintendo. Yeah, sometimes you just hear a word and that like that sticks with you? Viggy games, I learn all my other language. Movies. Nowadays I pronounce something incorrectly
Starting point is 00:01:43 on a fucking video or live stream. I get 10,000 comments and emails telling me I pronounced it wrong. Yes. That's a pretty good way. I thought English was your first language, right? Yes, hello, this is trash taste. It is I, the biggest Muku fan, apparently.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Idle simp gun right here. You look like you're about to go out an idle concert. Yeah, so we're recording two episodes today, so we have to, like, change clothes. I guess I just gave that away. And there was nothing else in the office aside from Miku stuff. So today, I am the biggest Miku fan,
Starting point is 00:02:14 and with me is, of course, the second biggest Muku fan right now. Don't call me out. This was subtle merch, bro. DM subtle. I didn't even know that was Miku merch. It's Miko, no. Oh, I should know what I'm old for.
Starting point is 00:02:26 If I, if I, if I, If I turned around, people would be able to see, they're very clearly there's a big fat meat on the back. They don't need to see that. It's business in the front, fun in the back. And then there's just Joey, you know, the usual, whatever. The actual Miku thing. Oh yeah, and Merry Christmas, everyone.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Yay! I guess this is coming out some Christmas. It's also the last episode of the year, so closely. Damn. Because the next episode is gonna be coming out first of January. We didn't even plan that shit out.
Starting point is 00:02:55 No, I guess that's just how the stuff When did the last episode come out of, like did it come out on New Year's Eve or did it come out on New Year's Day? I think it came out, yeah, like New Year's Eve, I think. Because I remember we were just getting drunk with Chris and that was like the first episode of the year, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:13 So I think it must have been after New Year's Day then. That doesn't feel like a year ago. It doesn't, like 10 years ago. My God, like, where did this year go? Because it feels like the past two years have just like flown by. I mean, 2020 just disappeared in a flash, obviously, because everyone was just inside and depressed.
Starting point is 00:03:29 But like this year, I feel we were able to go out a little bit more, at least in Japan, we're able to go out a little bit more than last year. But I think in our case, we just had so much shit going on that it all just like seems like a blow. I mean, I was, I thought I was busy in 2020 and then 2021 was like, allow me to introduce myself.
Starting point is 00:03:47 And then, yeah. Like, you know, on the iPhone calendar? Yeah. Like when you have something on the iPhone calendar, like you have something on that day, there's like a little dot to symbolize it. So it's very easy on iPhone to see how busy your past couple months were.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Because every month I came up to the next month and I was like, yeah, I'll be a lot more free next month. Like this month was super busy. Next month though, no dots. Enter that month, all dots. Yeah, it's like, oh cool, I had three days off last month. No wonder on fucking time. Yeah, it was really surreal seeing just your calendar fill up
Starting point is 00:04:21 because I remember when I first moved to Japan, I thought, who needs a calendar? We're YouTubers. We don't need calendars. We make our own schedule. You move to Japan and slowly you're just like, maybe I need a calendar just to like keep track of like one or two days. And then more stuff keeps creeping in.
Starting point is 00:04:38 And then you're just like, oh, wait, I need to put my personal life on my calendar as well. Because like now I don't know when like my mates want to hang out if I have something going on that day. Yeah, yeah. You know, it's like, it's so surreal just being this busy. And I never expected to be this busy in my life. I mean, it's definitely a good thing, right? like, you know, it's a very, uh, it's definitely a very privileged position, I would say, to be busy and doing all sorts of cool stuff, but like, at the same time, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:04 it's only so much my body can handle. You know that scene in like every, like, business movie where the CEO's like, put it in my calendar. I thought that was just a cliche. Deborah, pencil it in. Oh, do I have time for this meeting? Put it in my calendar. It's only a matter of time until we all have our own Deborah's that have to pencil shit in for us. I think so, I'd ironically want an assistant. Yeah, right? I know that sounds terrible. I thought like, what the fuck? I would never want one.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Then I'm like, oh, actually, a lot of things could be helped, but if I had someone who helped schedule things. Yeah, I know a couple of like YouTube or friends who live here that have like personal assistance and I'm like, oh my God, that seems like a fucking lifesaver. I just, oh man, the thought of having to like speak to someone and be like, hey, my life's a mess, can you help me?
Starting point is 00:05:45 Like, it's not about that like, I'm, I feel, I don't know how to explain it. I'm embarrassed about having to get my life in order. You know what I mean? That's what it is. So it's like going to the doctor. I want you to tell me that I'm shit at health. Like I know that, but if I go to the doctor,
Starting point is 00:06:00 I'm gonna have 100% confirmation that I am unhealthy. I just don't wanna be that guy who's like, talk to my PA. Yeah, talk to my sister. It's like, let me say like, if you wanna like, get permission for stuff or get like, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:06:14 you're like, okay, I need to be able to like arrange all the shit, can you help you do that? I don't know, I mean, some days like, I don't know, about three, three, four days of the week, I pretty much fill my, schedule up from literally like eight eight o'clock to like midnight yeah it's like stuff doing stuff but I like that I like doing it and live streaming is added a bunch of
Starting point is 00:06:32 time that it needs to be squished I mean you've you've put more work on yourself this year because I feel like this year is the year that you've really upped your live stream live streaming schedule as like you basically have almost like three channels now you got trash taste you got you got your main channel you got your live stream channel right now now I'll do live streams in the morning or the evening so I'm I'm not doing something in the morning. Let's say if I have something at 12 o'clock. Like I, you know, like we record trash,
Starting point is 00:06:58 today we did it at 11. Yeah. But if we did it at 12, I would be like, all right, sick, I'll wake up at 8, I'll live stream until 12, I'll come here. Yeah. And then I'll like work all day, and then I'll go do something in the evening.
Starting point is 00:07:08 And then I'll sleep. This is why I can't watch shows, actually. This is what I've realized. I literally have no time. I don't know what Joe's excuses. I'm like streaming until I sleep, so I realize I have no time to watch TV. I literally have to pencil in the times I watch I know.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Right? Because here's, here's like, He's like the ultimatum of every anime YouTuber, right? Yeah. Because a lot of the times, it takes more work to make a video about an anime than to watch an anime. So I actually have to pencil in, okay, this is the time I'm going to put in
Starting point is 00:07:36 into making a video about anime, and here's the time that I have to pencil in to watch anime. And like the time I pencil in to watch anime is like this, the time I pencil in to make videos is like that. Yeah. This is like the equivalent like doctors having to like study new practices to stay on top of that game.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Yeah, I have to watch anime. I just wanna- It's R&D. I just love to think that like, you know, if I was like, like, you know, if someone was like a maid of Garn's, it was like, hey, God, you wanna like hang out on X day at X time and Garn just being like, sorry man, that's anime time.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Literally there have been times where Sydney's like, uh, gone, can, uh, we, we hang out on this night and I'm like, sorry, Sydney, it's my anime watching night. It's part of my job. I need to keep up with like, what's airing right now. My friends laugh at me because I have to like ask them. I have to like, I send them email,
Starting point is 00:08:19 like invitations to like times, to like hang out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's hang out. I'll send you an email. Yeah. To like put it in your calendar. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Because I'll forget. And like I- You send them like a Google calendar notification. I think about like the last 10 times I agreed to hang out with someone, at least on like a call, not like in person. I've never like not turned up in person, but like on call to hang out with people who are like I don't get to see often
Starting point is 00:08:41 or people live in other countries. Yeah. I think like the last five out of 10 that I didn't put in my calendar, I think I like turned up late or just forgot about. Yeah, if I don't put in. And I feel terrible about that. I'm a bad friend.
Starting point is 00:08:52 but yeah. If I don't put it in my calendar, because sometimes you get like free time or you think you get free time, you're like, do I actually have free time? So you whip out the calendar and you're like, oh, I do have free time. Then an hour passes and get a message and you're like,
Starting point is 00:09:08 oh, weren't you meant to be, we're meant to have a call or we're meant to be hanging out. You're like, oh fuck, it's a lie. It's so vivid. It's a lie. For me, it's like, for me the problem is like, you know, going back to like the Apple calendar thing, I'm like, all right, finally.
Starting point is 00:09:22 I wake up and I'm like, Finally, a day where the dot is non-existent. I have a day off. I can do whatever the fuck I want. But then I go to my computer, I look at my other schedule that's sitting at my desk, and I'm like, oh, I have to edit three videos and do two sponsors.
Starting point is 00:09:37 All right, so it's not a day off. It's a day to be inside, but I'm not necessarily doing anything outside, so it's not a day off. And yeah, that's been my life for the past two years. Do you guys have to do lists? Yeah, I've been starting to like do to do this now because I have to forget what I have
Starting point is 00:09:52 To-do lists. The day I discovered to-do lists, like to do, like. Like a caveman, swimming over a rock. Yeah, game changer. There's a list of things I had to do it. It changed my life. I don't even think cavemen were that impressed when they discovered fire. Like, what are my friends?
Starting point is 00:10:08 Procrast this. Honestly, dude, like, especially when it comes to like our stuff, because because we have so many things that we have to do and so many things that we want to do. Right? So my dad actually taught me like how to make it. make the perfect to-do list, which is you wake up in the morning and you think to yourself, all right, you jot down everything that you can think of that you can do and that you have to do. You jot it down and then from that list, everything that is super important goes to the top.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Yeah. Everything that else that can wait a couple of days goes to the bottom. And then you go on with your day, you tick off everything that you do. And at the end of the day, if you're left with a couple of things, that's all right. That becomes the top of your to-do list the next day. Right. And just, I've been doing that for the past year and I've become infinitely productive.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Like, I guarantee that's what Moudan does as well probably. With the amount of shit, we have to do that. I'm like, how do I find more hours in the day, Moudan? You seem to pull from this infinite pool of hours that I don't know where you find. I don't want to, me, mortals aren't meant to have that level. I throw away my humanity long ago. We don't want to wield that level of productivity.
Starting point is 00:11:16 I just want to know, what did Moudan sacrifice, you know? I think you like, What did it cost everything? I think he hooked his like brain and car to a, like brain and heart to a car battery. It was just like constantly just going. I can't wait for him to come on and explain himself. It's like, just don't sleep.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Like when you talk to him, he's awful at like explaining how he's productive. Like he doesn't make it sound realistic at all. He's just like, yeah, you know, I just wake up in the morning, I just do it. He's the epitome of just get good. Yeah, you, like, with Moodon, I only see like the input and output, like input editing work outputs a video.
Starting point is 00:11:50 I don't see like what happens. It's basically just like a black box, right? It's like the YouTube algorithm because like you kind of know how it works, but no one really knows the inner workings of the YouTube algorithm. That's just like Moodan and editing for me, man. Have you ever seen Moudan edit?
Starting point is 00:12:03 The any time I've seen him edit is on stream, and that's where he's also doing something else. He's probably like holding back on streams as well. So people don't get down. Certainly using 2% of his brain. Sorry. Honestly, that's how impressive it is because it's like, I think, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:22 people already know who watched the show are aware of just how much he edits for trash taste and also for me and Connor. But I think people forget that, you know, other people also ask him to edit offhand as well. He's editing for Sydney now as well. Yeah, right? So I'm just like-
Starting point is 00:12:37 And not to mention he edits his own streams and he streamed. And he also streams as well. And he also streams like pretty regularly. So I'm like, what? How? Man's a beast, man's a beast. I would like to know what, I do. Moodan, what is your secret? When you come on, when you come on,
Starting point is 00:12:49 you can tell us. Please, please. We're longer waited episode. We're also waiting for the country to open back up, which hopefully will finally happen next year as well. It's looking promising, ish. That's the biggest thing I'm hoping for.
Starting point is 00:12:59 I think it'll, I mean, it's gonna happen next year. It's just when. It's like, is it gonna happen early or late? That's the, you know, that's the big question. I think everyone is seeing like as early as maybe Feb or March, right? I think is when visitors can come in. Because right now, I think,
Starting point is 00:13:14 if you're a non-visitor, so if you're like a student or you're on work fees or stuff like that, you can technically come in now. Not that I've seen any actual examples of people coming in. Well, I assume they need to get, I haven't looked into the process,
Starting point is 00:13:28 but I assume they need to reapply for some kind of application or process. I assume so, yeah. Because, you know, not tourists, but at least if you have a working visa or you've been waiting for like a job or to study here, then you can come here, which is good, which is like, it shouldn't have taken
Starting point is 00:13:43 two years to get to this point. I feel bad for the students, man. Yeah, I know, right? Just being like, finally, I get to live my dream, of coming to Japan. No, it makes me feel so bad because like when we applied, we have to wait like, what, three months?
Starting point is 00:13:55 And that was just like the worst three months, right? Because it's not the fact that it's three months. It's the fact that it's three months where you don't know what's gonna happen in your life. And you're just like, your life's kind of in limbo until you get that confirmation to be like, oh, okay, finally I can start packing. I can start preparing to go.
Starting point is 00:14:11 And then, but while you're waiting, you're just like, should I start, should I go with, what's kind of going on in my life right now? I was wondering with the students thing. I was thinking like, okay, we had no way of knowing that it was gonna take two years for Japan to open. Yeah. And like, I don't know what,
Starting point is 00:14:26 I, because I haven't really spoken to any students about it, but like, what was like, if you got to like, you're like day one, right, you find out Japan's closing. Like, do you just like wait and see or do you just decide to do something else? And then like hope that you can just then go back. Like I don't know. I think for most students,
Starting point is 00:14:42 I don't think anyone was anticipating them to fucking stay in limbo for two years, right? So I'm sure the majority of students were like, oh, you know, I, I, I still got time, I can wait. But fuck, imagine losing two years of like, I guess progress you could have made in your 20s. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:56 But then again, it's not really that important because I guess a lot of people in life didn't start doing their main thing until they were like 40, so I guess it really doesn't fucking. Yeah, yeah, true, true. I mean, but I think what sucks is that you just have two years where you can't really commit to something, you know, that's what really sucks for me,
Starting point is 00:15:13 where I always want to have a goal that I'm working towards and know that I'm actively working towards that goal. Yeah, me too. Because one of my biggest pet peeves is like, if I feel like I'm not working towards something, then I just feel lost. And I just feel like a fucking lost soul. And I need something concrete to work towards.
Starting point is 00:15:30 And that's why like I really empathize to anyone waiting for a visa and thank God you guys can finally come here. Hopefully you get here soon. Get to eat some Sukerman. The number one thing. Fuck a sushi, fuck the ramen. Go to your local skimmin join and discover true happiness. Yeah, we had the Michelin Star Ramen.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Oh yeah, we did. And it was very, except that, we didn't know it was Michelin's star, right? So there's a- It was a place Malien recommended to us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was it Raman? Because I thought it was sober. No, it's Raman.
Starting point is 00:15:57 It's like Chuka Soba, which is like Chinese sober, which is like technically, some people call it ramen. The noodles are more ramen, uh, noodles. It was very light for a ramen. It was very light. It was like, when I, when you said like, ramen, I was just like, oh, it's going to be a heavy ramen. Because ramen's the kind of meal that like takes you out.
Starting point is 00:16:15 It knocks you out for like an hour because of how heavy it is. It's like a thin, It was good. It was like, but you know, when I was thinking about it, I'm like, okay, what do I, I think I have the wrong expectations of Michelin Star. Like I expect some kind of stupid luxurious, like gourmet thing,
Starting point is 00:16:30 but I guess it's more about value. Yeah, it was like a thousand yen, at least the one I got was like 10 bucks. Yeah, yeah, I mean like $8, right? Yeah, it was amazing. I have a picture of it. It was, yeah, it was very good, but the whole time I was thinking I was like,
Starting point is 00:16:42 I think Suket Man is more tasty. I think so, too. I think so as well. The bog standard Sukei man, in Sukeman, which is, was better than the Michelin Star Robin. I agree. Honestly, I didn't enjoy the ramen that much. And, okay, because here's the thing, right? I feel like Michelin Star, if you've been to enough of them,
Starting point is 00:17:00 especially in Japan, because it's like, in Japan, there's so many Michelin Star restaurants. But I've realized that you cut, with the Michelin Star, you come in with like the wrong expectations, right? And this is gonna make me sound, you know, this is gonna make me sound so fucking privilege, and oh, Michelin Stars aren't all that great, but-
Starting point is 00:17:16 Mitchelan Star, gone? It's a Michelin Star, but like, here's the thing, right? The Thai man? No. Like, here's the thing. When you go into a Michelin Star Restaurant, your expectations are like up here. You're like, as Scott knows all well,
Starting point is 00:17:28 but you see often frequents the Michelin Star Restaurant. Of course, of course. No, but like you, you come in with these expectations that you're going to get like a meal that's a cut above the rest, right? And so you start judging things harsher than if you just go to this random restaurant and just like find out that there's like amazing food. Because in Japan, I feel like there is just, as many restaurants that have food
Starting point is 00:17:50 that are like Michelin Star quality that just haven't been discovered yet, you know? And I, and, to me, like, Michelin Star isn't always the indicator of this is the best meal that you can get in Japan. What it only means is that it's, it's become famous enough that people have started to notice it, but there are so many,
Starting point is 00:18:07 there are so many hidden gems. And like, for example, with the Michelin Star ramen, that is not like the best, even the best ramen that I've had. No, no, God man I've had, right? I've had like, sketched sketchy-ass places that had. Yeah, I honestly think the, uh, the insect ramen I had for my video was actually better.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Yeah. And that has 150 crickets in it. Not sitting on the, the, the, the, we don't name the ramen place, because also don't wanna, like, fucking me. I'm saying that because the insect ramen was actually fucking amazing. No, and also like, because it's Mitch and Star,
Starting point is 00:18:36 it actually made it a worse experience for me, right? Because, because you wait and line. Because you know, expectations are too high, right? But one, yeah, your expectations is high. And two, it's really, really fucking busy, right? So in this ramen shop, It's a tiny-ass ramen shop. It's like, when we say Mitchelisk star,
Starting point is 00:18:50 it's a really, it's a normal ramen shop. Roman, Roman stores in general are like not, I would say that good dining experiences. Like you, it's not, it's like if you wanna come here and chill out with your friends, don't go to a ramen place. It's a come in, eat and go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, that place only sit like, what, 10, 12 people maybe?
Starting point is 00:19:07 Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's busy, it's like narrow, you're like, if you're even remotely large, larger than normal, you're gonna have a tough time, squeezing past everyone. It's like, not fun. We went at about 2 p.m. So not even like, not even close to peak time.
Starting point is 00:19:20 And we still have to wait like a good 20 minutes. Like a good 20 minutes. And this is when the country is close to tourists. So when tourists come back in, I was talking to some people who've waited for this ramen for like an hour, an hour and a half, two hours, right? And you get, you get Shepard in and then you're expected to just eat the ramen and leave. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:37 There's no, there's no downtime. You get given a bowl, you eat it and then leave. You've got to like, to me, part of like the food experience is just like not feeling pressured to eat the food. but just like feeding like I can take my time to enjoy this food. Yeah, I couldn't even like bask. Like as good as the ramen was, I couldn't bask in it
Starting point is 00:19:55 because there was the pressure of, oh, I could take my time with this, but I'd also be pissing off the 20 other people still waiting in line, right? Standing outside. This is why I've realized that ramen is best at like midnight. You can just like, because they always serve beers. Everyone's having like a good time in there. Like it's a way more fun atmosphere.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Like some of the stores that open 24 hours normally have a few more seats as well. It is the ultimate midnight snack, for sure. Honestly, it's awful for your stomach. There's a good chance you might like bring it back up. But some of the best ramen experiences I've had are like midnight, we're in like a sketchy area of some place in Japan. Everyone's drinking beers in this store.
Starting point is 00:20:35 It's a cool atmosphere. Everyone's talking. It's so much more fun than ramen during the day where everyone's just there to eat and get out. Yeah, the best, the best ramen experience I had was when I was absolutely shit-faced and shit at like 2 a.m. And then my friend Makota was like, a ramen to like 2 a.m.
Starting point is 00:20:50 And I was like, uh, okay. So we ran around the corner to this like, awful sketchy place. Like the, the ramen wasn't even that good, but just like, it's just fun. It's just fun. Like when, when, when Dan, I was like, damn, good to feel alive.
Starting point is 00:21:02 But then the moment you walk out, it's like, Oh, it's awful. Alright, yeah. Because you've ruined your stomach with- You're right gonna die now. Because to me, like, the restaurant experience goes beyond just the taste of the food, right? There's like a reason why your mom's cooking
Starting point is 00:21:14 always tastes fucking good, right? It's cause like, cause that cooking means something to you. You know, you know. Where's the heart, man? What's the heart in the ramen? Honestly, honestly, you can taste in some Japanese restaurants where they put the heart into the cooking. Oh yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Like, it's so obvious with some like very small shots. I mean, I just think that I just, I realize that I don't like ramen as much as I want to like ramen. Oh no. Like I Uber eat sugar men on sometimes. And that shit is fucking good. Because also, ramen,
Starting point is 00:21:45 travels terribly. That's why I never ever ordered ramen. It's, I mean, unless you have like one of those really old star ones where they like bring you the actual bowl with everything in it. That's the only one I get. Problem is nowadays with ramen with Uber Eats, they separate the noodles and the broths.
Starting point is 00:21:57 So you give you a broth in like a plastic thing. A lot of the time, yeah. They don't actually put the noodles in. You've to put the noodles in yourself. Right. Yeah, it's not good. And the noodles supposed to be like piping hot in the broth. So it doesn't really work. But Tseekam and it travels pretty, like, pretty okay.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Well, it's because you... Well, it's because the broth is so thick, it's like magma. Yeah. It's really hot and the noodles are supposed to be separate anyway. And then you just dunk the noodles in and it's almost as good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:21 I wouldn't say it as well. Definitely better in shop, but yeah. Yeah, yeah, but like if you're, you know, you need that, you need that edge. So I've been saying, man, I've been advocating for it. Because like, ramen, ramen is that one Japanese dish where before I moved to Japan, I was just, I was thinking, oh, I'm gonna eat ramen every fucking week,
Starting point is 00:22:36 every day. I won't lie, I've had ramen three times the past week, but I didn't have ramen for like months before that. Oh yeah, I was saying like the last time I had ramen before we went to this, Michelin Star Raman place was like, I think. A year before.
Starting point is 00:22:49 A year before. That's just because I have like zero craving for ramen because why would I have ramen when I can have Suki Men? Right? Like, but the one dish that I haven't got bored off though is sushi. Like I eat sushi at least once a week. Really? At least once a week. Damn, you eat them all than me.
Starting point is 00:23:04 And I love sushi. I probably go maybe like, yeah, two or three times a month. I wish that it was like a really quick and easy one near my house. I would probably go. I don't want to order it. Yeah, no, it doesn't order well, but like, I feel like there's a few conveyor belt sushi and it's just perfect for lunch, man.
Starting point is 00:23:20 It's quick, it's easy. Yeah, they're like 100 yen sushi, because even like the 100 yen sushi, which is like 80 cents for like one piece of like salmon or something. Yeah. It's so good. Yeah, honestly, like my experience with sushi in Japan is that, you know, I've also, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:34 Maylind's taking me to some Michelin-star sushi places as well. And I'm like- Oh, she has. Maylain only eats if there's Michelin Man. She's like, I don't see the Michelin man anywhere. I'm not going in. Basically part of the big reason why we've, gone to more Michelin-Star places, is because, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:48 Malin suggested these places to us. Mailing swears by it. Yeah, which is how we found the Raman place, which is Malin recommended the Raman place and it happened to be Michelin-Star. But, you know, I have tried, like, a few, like, a lot of different sushi places of, like, different price points.
Starting point is 00:24:03 And my honest opinion is that, like, sushi, you reach about, like, you know, you reach about, like $30 a meal for a sushi, which is about, you know, mid-rain sushi in Japan, right? It's not cheap. It's not expensive. And that's about as good as it gets to me, because you go, you can get sushi from like $30,
Starting point is 00:24:23 like $100, like $200, like gourmet, super famous chefs out there like, how dare you cut? Yeah. And like my honest opinion is that I've had the expensive sushi and I'm just like, it's better, but it's not that much better than like the $30 sushi that I can get.
Starting point is 00:24:41 That's how it always is there. Like I find that the meals that are a little more pricey than the normal ones are generally like the nice ones. And then when you get to the stupid, extravagant levels of price, it's just like not that way. It's like a 10-fold increase for like a five to 10% better meal. I think I would argue that like if you're ever gonna go
Starting point is 00:25:01 to like, especially like the high high-end sushi places, which is all around Tokyo, then like, get something that you could only get in that high-end restaurant. So like, because I remember I took my friend Luke to like the really high-end sushi places. and sushi place because he's never been to like a high-end sushi place. So I took him to the one in Harajuku.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Yeah. And it was like 400 bucks between the two of us. So it's like really high- Some rice and a bit of fish. Yeah. But that place has like, uh, I think, I don't know if you guys have been to it, but like it's the one where you can have like the nine different types of sea urchin. Oh, okay. Different types of sea.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Yeah, yeah. So they do this like special thing. I don't even want one type. Yeah. So there's a special thing where they do like nine different types of We're talking about sushi, I haven't had much. And you get, and you get like, my stomach's just like, and you get like taste test, like the different types of sea urchun from like different parts of Japan and around the world and stuff.
Starting point is 00:25:56 And like, that is like cool because- I'm literally salivating, I'll give you zero dollars. Like that is cool because I've only ever seen that in that store. Like, yeah, it's expensive, but that is an experience that you can only get in that store. Like you can't go to like a fucking sushi chain of that shit, right? But like, if you could just go to a high-end sushi place and just order fucking salmon on rice,
Starting point is 00:26:13 then like, there's no point. There's no difference. Like you're not, the average person is not that much of a sushi snob where they're gonna be like, this isn't the high grade salmon that they're using. Oh, it's just like, even if it's high grade salmon,
Starting point is 00:26:25 it's like a like 5% increase on how better the taste is, right? And sushi is basically just, it's rice, it's the fish, it's the wasabi, and it's just like the soy sauce sauce they put on top. And like it's basically you just have to like make sure the ratio is all right.
Starting point is 00:26:40 And then there's only, yeah, and then there's only like so much the fish can be fresh, right? At which point do we, at which point do we just like say, hey, you just can't make this taste any better with the ingredients you're given, right? Unless you have like 10 times the number of taste buds
Starting point is 00:26:55 than the average human. Exactly, right? It's not going to change. Exactly. Like my tongue doesn't, like, I'm not part of like Shokukee or something. I can't like taste like the exact percentage of salinity in a fucking dish.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Although I must say when I did try the nine different types of like CO-chon, I was ready to. to take my shirt off from how good it was. It's like, oh! I'm just an Unagi fan, man. It's my favorite food in Japan. Unagi, it's the best.
Starting point is 00:27:20 Yeah, but see, like, even like Unagi, right? Like, after a certain price range, it's like, oh, no, no, no. You can't taste the difference. No, no, no. But like, that's why, like, if you could just go to an Anagi place, it's kind of expensive in a nagi in general, but, I mean, like,
Starting point is 00:27:33 the lower, lower price point ones, I'm always, like, satisfied. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And I think it's somewhat good for you, so that's good. Is it? It's not terrible for you. It's not terrible.
Starting point is 00:27:43 It's got a lot of like, you know, a lot of good omegas, those fishy oils. But they are also going extinct as well. That's the reason why the prices are getting high in high. Well, isn't it like Japan eats like 80% of the world's eels or something? Something like that. But then they, there's tons of eels from other countries.
Starting point is 00:27:58 It's like 80, it's like most of Japan's eels. Yeah, they're like almost all gone. That's why they're just getting more expensive. Yeah. I saw like a whole business inside a video on that. Yeah, because they, because Japan has a thing of like, we don't want to import foreign things. It's low quality.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Well, they're starting like eel farms now. Yeah, they import the eels, like as babies from other countries and then grow them in Japan. They're like, they're Japanese ears. It's just like Japanese eels. Yeah. Halfoo eels. Yeah, which is why I realize, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:27 when you go to a restaurant and they serve you this like really expensive dish or really expensive meats, right? That doesn't necessarily mean it tastes any better because a lot of, like a lot of more expensive meats weren't that expensive in history, right? So the taste hasn't changed. Like, for example, lobsters, you know, they, you know, they used to be like peasant food.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Yeah, they used to be like peasant food or, you know. Caviar, caviour, Caviar, yeah, peasant food. Caviar, we can't say peasant food without someone laughing in the office. Tide pods used to be peasant food now, gourmet. Salon used to be peasant food as well. Yeah, I know, I know.
Starting point is 00:29:01 It's something, you know. At sushi restaurants. Most of the time, right, these fucking restaurants, the ones that are like, the super high end, you feel so fucking out of place because you're not like an oligod. from Russia. I don't feel like I belong there. I want to go to the place that has a cool vibe. Yeah, the food's a little more pricey than go in into like a Yotsie. I know, Yotsie Ha, Yoshinaoya or
Starting point is 00:29:22 something. You know, it's like a little bit more. You get a vibe. You have a chill time. There's no expectations. You don't have to worry about how you've been dressed. That's the vibe I like. It's a nice time. I just want to have my $12 burger that's like, it's better than McDonald's, but it's got a little gourmet, but it's not, it's not gourmet. But they put avocado on it or something. I don't know. I don't know. Just that, that middle price point is my comfort zone. I'm like, this is nice. I just wanna feel like the cooks and the chef
Starting point is 00:29:49 care about their food. Yeah, I think that's a big thing for me. Yeah, when I order a drink and they ask me if it tastes okay before they serve it to me, that's when I feel like I'm out of my depth. I'm like, I've never done this before. I order the thing, you give me the thing. Is our Michelin-style water fitted for your needs?
Starting point is 00:30:04 If I order a wine, just give me the wine. Even if I told you, even if I told you it doesn't taste good, you should just laugh at me and be like, Well, that's, you did buy it. Like, it's the small things. If I get served food and, like, they come and ask, like, oh, how was it? Was it good?
Starting point is 00:30:20 I'm just like, you know what? You know, you care enough to like, care about my opinion. I meant as in like, they're gonna take it back if I say no. Yeah, yeah, not like, am I enjoying it? I don't mind, I like that. But that's the kind of restaurants that, you know, when they bring out the dish or whatever
Starting point is 00:30:34 and you look at and you're like, what is this? And then a light novel title of explanation starts, right? And it's like, I, can I just eat it? It's like two bites. I would be done by the time you finished explaining this and I wouldn't care otherwise. Those are the ones where I'm like, if I said, if they came up to me and they were like,
Starting point is 00:30:52 was any good? And if I hypothetically said no, then they would be like, what can we do to help you? No, because like what the experience I remember was during the cycling special where we went to that restaurant with that grandma who was basically just like,
Starting point is 00:31:04 eyeboarding us as we were watching the food. She pretty much pulled up a chair and sat with us. It was like your aunt feeding you, you know. Yeah, exactly. So fun. I love that place, though. It's just because, like, when someone, because I get it, because like, when you cook a meal for someone and they enjoy, and they enjoy the food and anything you taste good, like, there's such a rush to that, right? And I feel like, I feel like I've seen enough chefs who, you know, obviously, obviously it is a job.
Starting point is 00:31:30 You know, I understand. Some people just do it for a job. But there's just, there's just a magic to a chef or a cook who cooks the food and just get such an enjoyment from seeing people enjoy their food. Right? Because I don't know, it doesn't just, this isn't just chefs, but you know, if I just see someone enjoying their job, that just makes my day better, you know?
Starting point is 00:31:50 Yeah. Even if you just go to a fucking McDonald's and you see like that one person with a genuine smile and you're just like, you know what? Good for you, man. You're having a good time working McDonald's. I'm fucking happy. I don't know, man. If it wasn't McDonald's, I'd be like,
Starting point is 00:32:02 oh, someone's getting blackmailed. It's because you order them would smile, God. Can I get a smile to that? Which for some reason on Uber Eats in Japan, At the bottom of the page where you order all the stuff, there is a Muck Smile option for zero yen. And I don't understand how you would purchase said Mux Smile because I'm not there to see the smile.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Is that an actual? Genuinely, go to Uber. Yeah, because in Japan, if you... My day is ruined. It is a lie. In Japan, if you go into a McDonald's restaurant and you say, can I get a smile, please, then they'll give it to you.
Starting point is 00:32:33 So, but yeah, but... And I was fine with that, right? I don't agree with that. I don't think someone should have to smile upon your request. But why the fuck on Uber eats is it listed? When how is this- Uber delivery guy gonna smile for you?
Starting point is 00:32:47 I don't know, because I don't even see him because they have the fucking drop it off on my door option. They just fucking like take like an Instamax just slide it under the door. The fucking Uber driver just takes a picture of the McDonald's employee just smiling. I don't understand why Uber added this to the menu.
Starting point is 00:33:02 I'm like, for what, I don't understand how this is gonna work. I added it one time and nothing happened. Because it's legally part of the McDonald's menu. Because obviously nothing is gonna happen when I ordered the McSmile via Uber Eats because what would happen? I was just curious. Is this a, a Japan exclusive thing?
Starting point is 00:33:18 A Japanese close source it is. It would never work in the UK. Employees would quit on the spot. They'd be like, I'd rather die than smile. It's like, yeah, you want to smile, please order it. Yeah, you go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like an actual menu item in Japan.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Poor workers being forced to smile upon request. At least give them like a tip or something, you know. You can't tip. You can't tip here. So what's the reason for smiling? Oh, it's because the customer ordered me to smile. Smile, enjoy your job. I want someone to encourage me as I ordered these 30 nuggets
Starting point is 00:33:51 that will inevitably destroy my body. Well, what I enjoy seeing someone smile without me having to order them to smile, you know, just, just. But in Japan, you're like, you don't know if they're doing it because they have to do it. Yeah, Japan is the master of business smiles at the end. I don't know, I feel like I've been to enough places. Some places I know.
Starting point is 00:34:07 In Japan, where I'm just like, okay, this is like the core. I'm watching them. Yeah, because there's no way if you turn up like half drunk to a McDonald's that they are happy to see you there, like stumbly ordering a cheesebook, you know what I mean? Like there's no way anyone is happy about.
Starting point is 00:34:21 You think you're gonna smile without a little. Big Macs, I thought. I see Maids in Hakihabra and guys, I don't think they're really happy to talk to the customers. I don't know, man. Maybe they're just not excited to talk to the people that they seem like they want to talk to.
Starting point is 00:34:35 You know when you watch someone smile, but their eyes aren't smiling? That's all the maids in. It's like they sound so cheaper and you know, they have a big smile on their faces, they're waving to you like this, but deep in their eyes is just. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:48 All that industry is also dying. So you can't be too happy about that. I mean, there's like significant amount less of made stores or cafes. And now, but now they all have masks on so they're probably not even smiling under the mass either. A godsend, a godson.
Starting point is 00:35:03 How can you tell if they're smiling now? That affected the I sound happy without smiling voice, you know. Niko, Niko, just like that. Like, you know, so they shouldn't have to smile. I'm all four people not needing to smile. That's all right. I wasn't gonna go into those many cafes anyways, so don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Really, Jerry, really? I've been to one. It's fucking sucked. Wow. Yeah, so. I've been to one as well. Yeah, we've established many times on this podcast that they are the worst thing on. They are the worst. Have you been to one?
Starting point is 00:35:33 No, I don't need to go to one. No, I don't want to go to one. I'm violently uncomfortable by- It's an experience. You should try to least once. It's so uncomfortable. It's like the most un-British thing on earth, and I can't, I can't do it.
Starting point is 00:35:45 I can't, and I've seen like, sort of like offline TV went to one and I'm like, I can just only imagine how awkward this was when they were in there. Like, this is terrible. I would go back solely for the reason to take Chris with me. I would, that would be an amazing video.
Starting point is 00:35:58 That's what I want to see. There's a lot of things I would do just to make Chris suffer and to make myself suffer as well. Can I take you and Chris to make mey cafe? Sure, sure. We'll see how, we'll see how you guys react to that. Sure.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Why not? Trash Taste Made Cafe Special. Let's go. Chris's reactions often off camera are almost funnier than his on camera reactions. Yeah, they are. Because he'll just be like, shit, that was shit, Connor, why'd you make me do that?
Starting point is 00:36:22 Seeing Chris do like to love, love beam or whatever? I can't remember what they say. Oh, the moikun, that's it. I wanna see Chris do that. Chris has gone to the point where he's just the most entertaining, miserable British men. Like, he's so funny to watch be miserable,
Starting point is 00:36:38 because he's perfected the art of like, you don't feel bad for making him angry. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Like, some people, when they get upset or uncomfortable, you're like, you feel sorry for them. But Chris has perfected the way of like,
Starting point is 00:36:49 you just don't feel bad for laughing at Chris, when he's, he's the only man that can somehow laugh while having a friend. No, yeah, exactly. You don't, like, but that's what's so good about being British is that people don't feel bad for laughing at you when you're uncomfortable. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:02 Because people just like, they're like, oh, he's having a horrible time. It's funny. It's great. Like, to me, with maid cafes, Like to me, it's the perfect determiner to see if someone's like, a lost soul when it comes to differentiating
Starting point is 00:37:14 between, like, anime and real life. Yeah. Because if you go to like, if you go to like a maid cafe and you don't feel uncomfortable, then to me, that makes it, that makes me feel like, Ripperoni.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Ripperuni, he's a lost soul right now. Because, because, like, because maids are meant to act like anime characters, right? And there's nothing more uncomfortable to me than seeing like a real life anime character like right in front of my eyes. Well, because in real life, it's like extremely uncomfortable
Starting point is 00:37:39 to see somebody talk that way. It's like, please. Yeah, please. Because people do not talk that way, please just act normal, please. Just act normal, please, I'm thanking you. Please, I don't know, slap me or something. I don't know anything but this.
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Starting point is 00:38:56 what have you guys been up to this year then? What's been the biggest growth, the biggest disappointments, the biggest achievements? Have you achieved anything this year? I'm not dead. I'm still alive, I guess. So alive, I guess.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Yeah. What have you achieved, Connor? Not much, really? We all say that, but I think to our audience, it's like, I can name off about 50 things. Okay, well, we have moved studios. We've got a much, without happening. This is probably the biggest thing.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Yeah, this is probably the biggest thing. It's difficult because you don't, I often, you don't wanna spend too much time pat yourself on the back because if you do, you often get lost in that and you wanna be conceded. You wanna keep pushing forward. Yeah. and never be complacent with what you've done.
Starting point is 00:39:38 I mean, you know, I guess I'm happy I moved house. It didn't really feel like something that I've achieved, but I felt like it was a big dub. Yeah, moving to a better place. You know, it's all right, man. Sometimes, you know, you have to stroke your own Dix. I think that's a few game. That's the only way.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Definitely, definitely a minus is the gym has been less apparent in my life. Yeah, I need to get that. I'm just happy, current, can I say where we used to live? Uh, you could say the, I guess, I guess, we could say Saitama. So I'm glad we've moved out of Saitama. So all that time when we said that we lived in Tokyo,
Starting point is 00:40:09 that was a fucking lie. Well, we lived in Saitama at the time. Not exactly, it's the greater Tokyo metro It's an area, okay, okay, okay. Is Zone 6 really London? Saitama is massive. Saitama is a fucking massive location. It's like three times of size of time.
Starting point is 00:40:24 But we lived in like the area that was like connected to Tokyo. Yeah, so it wasn't, it wasn't different. We, you know, going into Tokyo, there was like different trains that we could get to go into Tokyo. So we could like either take like the rapid train, which takes like 20 minutes or something
Starting point is 00:40:38 to get into central Tokyo. But like the rapid train is like only comes once an hour. It's a unicorn. Yeah. Then there's a commuter rapid. Oh, the commuter rapid. There's the local rapid commuter rapid. The local stops at every spot, obviously.
Starting point is 00:40:52 The rapid stops like, I'd say half. People like Japan are definitely gonna feed that out where we are. Yeah, maybe. Oh, really, you think so? Yeah, because the commuter rapid is like only one train line. Oh, really? Well, no, there's a few stops that it
Starting point is 00:41:05 goes to that we could live out. Yeah, but like you can, I think people in Japan now figure out, oh, it's definitely that line that they were living on. Well, good thing we don't live there anymore. Yeah, there's, there's, there's, there's, yeah, there's only one train line. There's only the psychier line that doesn't live on.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Okay, well, well, I'm just gonna say it because there's not one, Joey, Joey. Well, they wouldn't know, they wouldn't know the exact stop. Yeah, yeah, it's fine, it's fine. But there's, because there's the, okay, there's two lines in Saitaa-Tau-that you can get, the Kain-Torku and the Sikki-Kee-Key-Kin-Taws sucks. It stops at every stop.
Starting point is 00:41:34 It takes like 10 hours to get anywhere. There's like two lines. One of them actually gets you places. The other one, it literally takes like two hours to go from like the- Well, it's because Keating Tooku, like, from start to finish, goes through four prefectures. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Yeah, it's nuts. Yeah, and then like where we, like where we used to live, like if you, we could plan going into Tokyo, right? Because you can plan to go this time to get the commuter rapid. It's a fast train. But my God, going back was such a pain, right? Shinjuku at like 11 was like nightmare.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Yeah. Because you'll never get the commuter rapid. You'll never get like the rapid. It's always the local. And then suddenly a 20 minute commute turns into an hour, you know, on the local train. It was like the first few times I was like, okay, okay, I can do this. And then afterwards, especially when we started coming to the office where we moved office, it was, I wanted to move a lot closer. The first year didn't bother me much.
Starting point is 00:42:25 I don't really care much. Then it just got to. But yeah, I'm glad we moved. I mean, you know, I liked where we lived, actually. It was a nice area. Yeah, it was a really nice area. It was just too far. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:35 And I won't lie, the Uber Eats selection was shocking. You pretty much, you had one option for every cuisine. Yeah, pretty much. So it was like, if the Thai place was bad, which luckily it wasn't. The Thai place that was bad. Okay, the Thai place was like, the Thai. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:50 But like, the, the, Iraqis God's Thai, right? He's like, if it's not Michelin, I ain't having it. There was like no, like, good Italian food that delivered, which was like, this is the most privileged fucking thing. I don't care. I love Italian food, and I love getting like a pasta.
Starting point is 00:43:06 I don't know if you've heard of dominoes. Oh, it's pretty Italian if you ask me. They do pizza. They do pizza and pasta. Oh, no, there was one place, but it was ridiculously expensive. For me, the biggest thing that was missing in a UBri's selection was healthy options.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Oh yeah, there was like no like salad or anything. Yeah, like if you wanted healthy food, you needed to cook it yourself. And a lot of the times, a lot of the times I wanted to eat healthy and then like, I would get back from work, and then the day would be over. It's the most first world problems
Starting point is 00:43:32 God forbid I chop up lettuce in my own home. We like the Uber Eats selection was rather poor. This is like pre-Olligard like levels of water. I used to just go out a lot to eat just because when I did move into my previous place, I saw the Uber Eats options and it was like, are you, fuck that, I'm just gonna go out. Yeah, busy in it.
Starting point is 00:43:52 But also you were a lot closer to the places than I was. Yeah, I guess so. It was like nothing near. It was nice though, like that area was super nice to walk around in. Yeah, it was such a quiet area. Yeah. Because like I feel like I only started to really walk around and explore when I was deciding whether I should move or not.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Right, right. And I was just like, oh, there's a, there's a lot of cool places, a lot of cool cafes and restaurants that I just didn't notice before because I'd never bothered exploring the area and they didn't show up an Uber eat, so how could I discover them? Yeah, exactly. Right?
Starting point is 00:44:24 And yeah, like I feel like there's a lot of small local places that I miss now, but, you know, I'm also happy to be in a more convenient area. and being, be outside that territory. I'm just happy we've all moved into much, much bigger and nicer places now. Yeah. You know, like, you know, as good as our previous places were.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Like, I think, you know, especially after we got this office, I think it was definitely time for an upgrade in our, you know, personal lives as well. Yeah, I mean, like, I, I've said this before, but I was happy with my place and I was very lucky to find the place that I have moved into. But, you know, I was, I was still pretty happy with my place.
Starting point is 00:44:59 So, I, I, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, to me is definitely an upgrade, but it's like, it's like a natural progression to me. And I feel like there are some things that I've definitely progressed in in like 2021, and then there's some things that I feel like, I've probably regressed in, regressed in, or stayed the same. I don't know, it's been a, it's been a weird year
Starting point is 00:45:19 because after 2020, everyone was just like, all right, ready to like hit the ground running in 2021. And then the environment just didn't allow us to like hit the ground running. Yeah, yeah. So like I remember like I think for a lot of 2021, like I can say this now because I think before going back to England I was definitely burnt out.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Like I'm gonna say this not like I was definitely burnt out and everyone's just everyone's just like oh why didn't you take a holiday? Why didn't you take some time off to just look after your mental health and all that stuff and what I would say was there was nothing that I could do. There was nothing that I wanted to do because what I wanted to do was see family, see friends, you know back at home. Two years a long time, man. Two years is a very long time.
Starting point is 00:46:02 And that was like, that was like my reset, right? So before that, like, I was definitely burnt out and I kind of just dealt with it by just trying to fill up my schedule and kind of, kind of just like ignoring it. And I didn't fully realize that until I went back to England and I just had nothing on my schedule and I just realized, holy shit, this is really refreshing. I'm getting a lot of ideas and I wanna go back to work now.
Starting point is 00:46:25 I'm not doing a single thing. Yeah. Is this what it's like to have a break? have a proper break. This was like to have a life. To just not do anything. Yeah. So I mean, that's that's kind of like what has been hardest in 2021.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Because 2020 was like, what was a year where, you know, the entire world was flagged. So 2021 was like me waiting for the world to get back to normal and it's finally, finally looking like it is going to get back to normal now. Yeah. Fingers crossed, touch with.
Starting point is 00:46:56 Are you boys happy with your YouTube channel this year? Yeah. Which one, Joey? Which one? Yeah. Both. I love it because 2021 is the year that Joey
Starting point is 00:47:09 finally became an annituber. Yeah. Just on the anime channel. Just not on the anime man channel. Yeah. Yeah. I have a... I told Gant about it,
Starting point is 00:47:19 but because I've been uploading a lot more on my second channel now and I've been making a lot more anime content on my second channel now that I have a playlist on my second channel called actual anime content. Just a poke fun.
Starting point is 00:47:30 But like, yeah, I don't know. I'm very harsh on myself when it comes to my YouTube channel and my content and stuff like that. So like, you know, I'm obviously proud of all the videos I upload on both channels. Yeah. Otherwise, I wouldn't upload it at all. But I'm definitely one of, I'm fucking not proud of all. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:47:47 But like, I'm definitely one of those people that's like, after a week of that like honeymoon period, I'm like, yeah, I could have done better on that video. I'll do better on the next one. And then I try and do it and I keep thinking I'm going in the right direction, then I'm just like, At the end of it, I look back at all of it.
Starting point is 00:48:01 I'm like, yeah, like 5% of it was okay. Yeah. 95% could have used a bit of work. But I think, yeah, like, I have, like, plans for next year for what I want to do with my shit. But, like, I don't know. It's going to be scary because there's going to be a lot different. Like, pretty much everything I've established up until this point.
Starting point is 00:48:22 So, yeah. See how it goes. But, you know, I guess that's what we have trash taste for, right? Like, as a fail safe almost or, or, uh, Not so much a failsape, but like, because I guess like, a safety net, yeah, like a safety net, I guess, because when we started, again,
Starting point is 00:48:35 it's like when we started Trash Tastes, we were like, oh yeah, this'll be like a nice side project for us to do, you know? And like we could do all sorts of cool things on the sideline while we focus on our main content. But now it's like, well, we're like 1.1 million subs or something, which is insane on the main channel. Thank you again, by the guy.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Yeah. It's, and you know, now it's like pretty much become like the main basket now and our main channels and our side channels and our side channels and whatever else that we do outside of trash taste has become the safety net almost. I don't know, like trash taste has become like almost the number one priority.
Starting point is 00:49:06 No, it is the number one priority. When we need to schedule a recording, that's getting done before any of my fucking videos or any of my scripting, man. Exactly. So it's like, you know, definitely, because like we do have like lots of exciting plans for trash taste obviously next year, which obviously can't tell you,
Starting point is 00:49:21 but look forward to it. Yeah, I definitely plan my working week, my working week around trash taste, not the other way around. Yeah. And I think just like that, right, like that mentality is already just telling of, like, this is our main stick now, you know.
Starting point is 00:49:36 But also when there's, I think because all three of us are involved, I think it, I guess we pretty pay more respect to the scheduling of trash taste. Yeah, yeah, definitely. If I fuck over my own channel, that's my own problem. But if I fuck over the scheduling with trash taste, it's like a burden to everyone. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:51 And you know, we have people who turn up to help us with trash taste. Yeah, yeah. You know, when I fuck around doing a monkey tier list on my own channel, you know, if I don't do that, it's, you know, it's on me. and that's it, right? No one else's team.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Yeah. I think that that's like, I guess like going back to the whole like getting a personal assistant. Yeah, or like getting a team. Yeah. To help, you know, behind the scenes of like my main channel and stuff like that. I think that's the one thing I'm scared of,
Starting point is 00:50:12 which is like I'm gonna feel more pressure now to deliver on my main channel because now it's not just me that I'm taking care of. It's like taking care of a personal assistant or like, you know, an editor or, you know, a manager or whoever, right? There's like multiple people's livelihoods at stake, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:27 It's like that's really the only thing I guess that stopped me from personally getting a personal assistant or... I actually don't even know what's taught them. Maybe they'll realize I'm fucking stupid. I don't know. Like, why am I helping? It's a lost cause.
Starting point is 00:50:43 No, like, for me, I think the biggest change for me this year is I guess I've been really trying to figure out not what I want to do, but how I want to do it. I feel like you said this last year in the year before. Is that okay if we just say it? Did I say this last year? You definitely said this last year. Yeah, because I,
Starting point is 00:50:59 I think this year has been the year where I've really like knuckle down to try to really start thinking of my main channel as like content, as a job that I have to like break down and like actually be strict on how long it takes like make a video because... Right, you can't be taking months to make one video. No, I mean like it's like because because I think
Starting point is 00:51:19 one big thing that has changed since joining Trash Tase, right? Is that for better or worse, my content, my content upload schedule is compared to your guys right? And like, especially like seeing how your guys' content is made, like, not saying like, obviously I'm not saying like anyone's content, uh, is better or worse, you know? It's just like, I've kind of realized that I want to upload as much as you guys. But with, with the workflow of my kind of my style of content, I've tried to like cut as many, many corners as I can. And there is like,
Starting point is 00:51:52 there is just too many bottlenecks that I can't, I can't do to like, to like, like, I've, I've reached max productivity that I can reach with my channel. And before last year, I was like, I can improve. I can do better. I can do like three videos a month and trash taste. And now I've come to realize that not only is that setting the wrong expectations for me to feel like I can do it and, you know, I feel bad if I don't do it. But it also like sets the wrong expectations for the viewer as well.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Because if the view is expecting me to upload that many videos, a month and I kind of like, I kind of keep doing that, then that's just going to be unsustainable. And I'm just going to burn out, which I did do this year. But that's like, I didn't burn out because I was putting myself through too much work. I burnt out because of the world situation. But I've just realized that I need to like, I need to make a schedule which is sustainable. And unfortunately, you know, it's for better or worse. Like I, my up-less schedule does get compared to your guys. But like, I've come to, I've come to realize to not feel guilty about that anymore. You know, when I make jokes about it,
Starting point is 00:52:58 I don't give a shit. I don't think it's a, just having a bit of fun. Yeah, I also don't, like, I've never considered, I don't think me or Joe have ever thought that your channel, your content and channel is comparable to ours in any way.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Like, I don't think one upload is equal to one upload on. No, no. No, definitely not. Like, like, it's, I guess it's like forced me to, like, really break down a workflow to, like, the video, right? Because, like, how long would it take, would it, how long does it take you guys like make one video, like hour-wise, would you say?
Starting point is 00:53:29 That varies. Yeah, that varies. It can be literally like two hours or like a hundred. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. There are some videos that like even one now that's really, it's like a really big video
Starting point is 00:53:39 that I've been working on that I've been wanting to do for a very long time. Yeah. A lot of moving pieces and a lot of, a lot of, lot of edits and a lot of footage to go through. But, you know, that no matter, even if I put like a month's worth of like, like, let's say if you just took the hours I put into it, Let's say it's like a full working month of hours into one video.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Yeah. It doesn't fucking matter because I gotta upload the week after anyway. So it doesn't like it. Yeah, exactly. But then maybe the week after it'll be something that took me two hours. So it's kind of, you kind of have to juggle it,
Starting point is 00:54:08 but also not make it look like all these videos are like completely different quality. Yeah, exactly. Which is why I kind of just realized, okay, the only way I can make my videos not seem drastically like different in feeling, theme, quality production, is to just have, I guess, me being an idiot
Starting point is 00:54:27 and my personality being like the focal point of the video, or at least a main aspect of the video. Yeah. So like, so like I had to break down for like, let's say like the fastest video. So I had to break down. Yeah, so I had to break down like my video making process. Like the fastest video you can make is like, say in like two, three hours, right?
Starting point is 00:54:43 Let's say you like you needed to get a video out. So I felt like a few times where I just need to get a video out, right? So that's the time on my end, not including editing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So like for me, like I need to like pencil in, let's say, let's say I'm doing a video about an anime, right? So I have to pencil in hours, like around about a day to watch the anime, which like, assuming it's like a season of anime, right? And then let's say two days for two, two days for scripting, which is like one day for the actual script, one day to like finish the script and actually make it like a good script, you know? And so that's already three days, right?
Starting point is 00:55:19 And then I have to have like, you know, two hours or so, two hours for like the recording of the script. And then I send that off. So that's like on my end, three and a half days already to be sent off to the editor. Now the editor edits it and here has to send it back to me. And I have to do like the finishing touches upload and finishing touches upload thumbnail on title, which if I'm really lucky, would take half a day.
Starting point is 00:55:46 So that's like four days, basically, of workflow from beginning to end. Let's say, and that's if I'm fully productive and nothing goes wrong, right? That's the fastest I can make a video. All of you to assume I don't procrastinate. Now, so that's four days in a week, right? Trash tases one day in a week, right?
Starting point is 00:56:05 I also want weekends as well. So now you just wishful thinking at that point. You are weak. I've realized, like, in my previous years, when I've been able to do three videos a month, I've been able to do three videos a month and trash days because I've just, I've just worked on weekends.
Starting point is 00:56:23 And I've just realized I kind of want weekends. And I kind of also want to do other things, like stream and like maybe focus on some side projects as well. And I've just realized, I'm trying to put too much on myself. And there's like, with the type of video I'm making, there is no way I can make this video faster than the way I'm making it. And people will say, well, why don't you become
Starting point is 00:56:44 like a personality-based channel, like, you know, you guys where, you know, you can do different kinds of content that is more focused on any personality. And I've played around with that and then I've just realized, no, I kind of, I kind of like enjoy what I do. I kind of, I like scripting.
Starting point is 00:56:59 I am, you know, I've already got trash taste. I have a channel that is based around my personality, so called, you know. And so I've just like, I've just realized that my main channel is, there's always going to be a max cap, two uploads a month. If I'm lucky, three uploads a month, and I'm not going to feel guilty if I don't make that.
Starting point is 00:57:19 If it's one upload a month, because I'm traveling or because I'm on holiday, that's what you're getting. And like, I guess this is a message to you guys as well, which is, I know, I know the image is just like, oh, Gantz a lazy bum who doesn't upload that much. But trust me, I am working at full capacity and you guys are getting two uploads,
Starting point is 00:57:38 you guys are getting two uploads a month, maybe one upload a month. if I'm busy that month, but that is me at max capacity. And I'm not going to try to pretend that anything else is that, you know. I honestly never saw a problem, like, you know, as much as I like, you know, poking fun of it or whatever, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:53 in episodes and stuff like that, I honestly never saw a problem with your upload schedule. Because again, like, I know how much work goes into the content that you make specifically, like, you know, you say you take two days to make a script, but I sometimes take like a week to make a script because I'm nowhere near as good as making your script as well.
Starting point is 00:58:11 The two days script happened this year. Oh yeah, right? Before it would take like maybe like three days or four days before I can't script. But I feel the more scripting you do, the better you get at it because you understand, you know, the basics of how to get a script down, right?
Starting point is 00:58:25 Like, you know, I remember the first script I wrote took me fucking forever because I was like, how do you write jokes? I've never written a joke down in my life and performed it off the script, right? So it's like, yeah, so, you know, I would see like your upload schedule and then I would see your videos,
Starting point is 00:58:40 and I would see your videos, and I would think to myself, all right, if I were to make this video, how long would it take for me? Yeah. And then I think to myself, yeah, it'll probably take even longer than it probably took gone.
Starting point is 00:58:49 Yeah. Right? And that's why I've never really seen a problem with your upload schedule. If anything, I think like, I'm honestly even thinking, like, for next year, I'm thinking to maybe go to like something similar to your upload schedule as well
Starting point is 00:59:01 because I want to put, because I think this year, the thing that's changed with my channel is that, like, I've definitely upped my quality of content or like, I've upped the bar of the minimum standard that a video should be. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:13 And that has resulted in videos not only taking longer to make and to edit for Moodon, but also it's taking longer to prepare just in general. Yeah. So it's like right now, especially these last couple of months
Starting point is 00:59:25 that I've been in like a little bit of a burnout, I've noticed that like a week, one video a week is starting to get tough. I actually forgot I had to upload the other day. Yeah, right. I was so busy. I mean, especially with us too. Legitimately if we just forgot to.
Starting point is 00:59:40 I put the video and then the day, it was like midnight and I was like, oh, I could upload it right now because it was supposed to go up in three hours. But I had to wake up at 4 a.m. to do a call. So I was like, fuck this. I'm not, I need like these three hours of sleep I'm getting. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Right, so, but it's like, especially with us too, now that we've like put more effort into our second channels as well, right? Yeah. And on top of trash taste every week and then trash taste after dark every week, right? Like, that's already so much shit on my plate that I realize like, oh, if I continue this,
Starting point is 01:00:10 you know, once a week schedule, if I, or if I kind of lock myself into this once a week schedule, I'm either gonna completely burn out. I'm either just gonna be so fucking exhausted that I can't do anything, or, you know, worst case scenario, both. And the quality of my videos
Starting point is 01:00:24 is just naturally gonna go down. Yeah, been toying with the idea of just not uploading all January, doing the classic YouTuber move. Oh yeah. I was like, I kinda wanna like just do streaming all month. So, and I thought January's the best month because that's when you get like,
Starting point is 01:00:37 zero ad revenue. You get zero ad revenue and that's the YouTuber that everyone takes off because they don't get much money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I was like, I do actually want to try doing like streams full months, see how it goes and have more of a consistent schedule with that. Because I feel like I've invested a lot in the streaming,
Starting point is 01:00:53 but I'm still, like, compared to other people who are full-time streamers, I'm no near as consistent. Yeah. And I think that's one thing that's like, is a detriment to that. Because people always complain, like, Connor, I never know when the fuck are you gonna stream. Yeah. And I'm like, yeah, I know, but that's what I like about it. I like that I just turn up and I'm like, all right, I was gonna stream for 12 hours,
Starting point is 01:01:10 now casually, let's do it. Yeah, but I think like trash taste has definitely done a good job with like, you know, it's varying levels or varying results. Like trust's kind of like gotten us to kind of look at our main channel stuff and being like, I could probably change. Is it actually a main channel?
Starting point is 01:01:24 Is it like? I just say main channel for the purpose of main channel, right? I really don't think about like the only, it's weird now. Individual channel. It's weird now. I didn't even think of any channel
Starting point is 01:01:34 as the main channel. I'm just like, I just make shit. Some of it has priority over the other ones. Yeah. But it depends weak by, week which I'm prioritized. Because, because, like, part of the reason why I've been putting down the, not, not like, I've been putting the same amount of videos on the main channel now, which is two
Starting point is 01:01:49 videos a month and I'm not going to try to do more because I wanted. You do two videos a month? Huh? I thought you did one a month. No, I only did, I only do one a month when it's, uh, when it's like a holiday. Sorry, I didn't know. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, so right now I'm doing two videos a month. Um, and I'm putting all my extra time into, I do also want to like make a second channel because that seems fun, you know. It's super fun. I see you guys. I see you guys. I see you guys doing it and I'm just like, you know what? Maybe my main channel doesn't need to be my top priority.
Starting point is 01:02:14 You know, I've got like the formula down for my main channel or now I just want to, I just want this extra time to do other shit now. Because I was thinking, because I have like a lot of ideas for like big projects that can go to my main channel, right, which I am sitting on. But my God, they're going to take so much fucking time. And I'm like doing these big projects really takes a lot of you, especially when you're also trying to maintain your constant upload schedule on your main channel anyway.
Starting point is 01:02:43 Yeah, yeah. So I've kind of come to realize that, you know, when I really, really feel like I'm down on YouTube and I need to work on a video with that I'm really passionate in, then I'm gonna start doing those. But for now, like, I wanna do more small stuff. I wanna do more small stuff for you guys.
Starting point is 01:03:00 I think the thing for me was, I was a, you know, because I'm not sitting here saying that my main channel is quality by any means. I think there is some level of effort that goes into it and I mean, I'm not too harsh myself. Would that not be quality? Yeah. I think it's a, there is a certain bar.
Starting point is 01:03:15 It is quality. There is a certain bar that I try to do on the channel for most videos. There is sometimes, like I did like a fucking, which Chris loves to joke about. Yeah. My monkey tierless video, which I just wanted to do because I thought it was fun. But it's obviously, you know, it's not, it's nothing like exceptional. Yeah. But, you know, in general, the videos that I have were quite difficult.
Starting point is 01:03:31 But, you know, sometimes I see someone doing like, you laugh, you lose challenge. I'm like, that seems fun. I'd like to do that. Yeah. I'll do it live instead. I'll do it on the other channel because it works. And so it kind of came to a point where a lot of fun ideas that just weren't big enough or weren't exciting enough
Starting point is 01:03:48 to like warrant putting a lot of time and effort into them. Just kind of work really well on the other channels. Because that's what I've noticed. That's why I want, that's why I want a second channel because I feel like I have set a bar of quality on my main channel and I've like tested uploading videos that maybe have not had as much much time put into them and you do see it in the view numbers,
Starting point is 01:04:12 like eventually. So that's why I'm just like, okay, let's just keep my main channel for like the content. Big boy videos. For the big boy videos, for the videos that my audience expect to me, but that doesn't mean you can't do other things on a second channel.
Starting point is 01:04:26 Yeah, it's like, you know, there's like so many like, especially timely things or you know, like so many things that perhaps have nothing to do with the shit I'm known for, right? That I wanna talk about in the video. Like, you know, when YouTube brought out that news that they were gonna get rid of the dislike button, right? I was like, I wanna talk about this in a video,
Starting point is 01:04:42 but I can't just put up a 15 minute rant of me on the main channel talking about it, right? So it's like, perfect, I have a perfect outlet for random shit like that. Have you, how many, do you get the comments of, I don't watch the anime man anymore, watch watch Joey? Yeah, a lot.
Starting point is 01:04:55 I mean, you know, that's fine and everything because it's like, you know, at the end of the day, it's still me, right? So it's whatever and you know, it's weird, right? Because especially this past like two or three weeks, I've been uploading a lot more on the second channel and I've just like, I found myself waking up and thinking to myself,
Starting point is 01:05:12 all right, watch the next channel on the second channel. Oh, the next video on the second channel. Oh, wait, I have a main channel, fuck. I should probably think about that one as well, right? I think because another big thing as well is, I feel like right now with my main channel, I've definitely seen the plateau of just that kind of anime content. Like that kind of anime content.
Starting point is 01:05:31 And you know, I do, I do have like ideas about how, you know, you can, I could keep that channel growing, and grow past the plateau, but the amount of time and effort that would take, to me, that would take too much time and effort that I just don't have right now. That would take giving up trash taste, basically, to make content and rebrand my channel
Starting point is 01:05:54 to a point where it can grow past the plateau of that kind of antichib content. How do you feel like the growth on your channel, your main channel? I mean, I'm fine with it, because I know, like right now, Anitube, as it is, has just plateaus. Like that's, you know, we've seen a plateau.
Starting point is 01:06:11 And if there are any other antitubers who would like to prove me wrong, please. Because I, you know, I'm waiting for that one person to prove me wrong. Yeah, I'm waiting as well because I need, I need to kick up my ass to be like, oh, you can go higher. Okay, that's like my motivation. Because like, I'm sure you guys are the same way. It doesn't matter how many subscribers you have, right? What I find, what I find happiness in is growing something or like making, making it feel
Starting point is 01:06:35 like I have made progress on something. So like I felt way more fulfilled seeing the progress and growth on trash taste than I did on my own channel for like last year. Yeah. And like that's why I'm the thought of a second channel excites me way more than even making big videos on my own channel. Because even if I make a big video, my own channel, which I'm really passionate in, I know that there's a certain cap for like the number of views that's going to get. And I mean, it's already like, you know, especially with like all of our main channels, like it's already at a size where we're pretty happy with. and it's like, it's massive to a lot of people, right? So it's like, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:10 It's just, it just makes more sense that like, you know, obviously you're gonna have more excitement watering this tiny plant than watering a giant tree, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Obviously, watching this tiny thing grow into something bigger is going to be more fulfilling. Yeah. Especially if you're trying to do something that you otherwise,
Starting point is 01:07:25 not really known for, perhaps it's like content that you've never tried before and stuff like that. And I think that's why I've been having so much fun with the second channel, but like, yeah, I don't know, like, my main channel grew as well. Like, I hit three million subs this year. Yeah. As to you.
Starting point is 01:07:39 So did I. Yeah, he did as well. You got why you're talking about that? Yeah, it doesn't feel like I've grown a lot. Yeah, right? But like, to me it's like, I don't know, like, I know definitely past me would look at some months of my channel's growth
Starting point is 01:07:52 and being like, oh man, I didn't really grow that much at all. But like, I think I've just rewired my brain this year to be like, if it ain't a negative, then it's all good, dude. Like if every day I'm gaining at least one sub, I'm completely okay with that now. I haven't been canceled yet. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:08:07 Exactly. It's like if people are still like looking at my shit and wanting to come in, cool, dude. Like my doors are open. But like, I'm not, I'm not at this point now where I'm like, oh, fuck, I only made 20,000 subs this month. I'm slowly dying. You know, it's like, yeah. I'm like, don't channel. It's like, oh, no, I'm just past that point now. I'm much rather put in the time to be like, oh, I have this tiny second channel that I wanna grow into something big, so let's focus on that kind of thing. Or you know, with like trash taste for instance, right?
Starting point is 01:08:33 Yeah, yeah. Like that's way, way, way more exciting for me and I think that's why, you know, at least you and I have had a lot of fun doing the second stuff, right? Yeah, right? It's just like streaming, right? It's just like properly streaming this year
Starting point is 01:08:45 or did it start last year? I can't remember. It almost feels like you've been streaming forever. Like properly, properly, like consistently, I think it was this year, right? It's been more this year. year than it was. Well, last year, it was 2009, no, 2009. When was the chess tournament, the first one? Early 2020. Yeah, 2020. Okay, well, 2020 was around when I started streaming.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Okay. And then I think, yeah, this year is probably when it's growing the most. I've been a lot more consistent than doing a bunch of stuff with that. Yeah. It's interesting. I still, occasionally get people coming into the Twitch being like, I had no idea you had a Twitch channel. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. I have that every time I stream. I get that, yeah. I guess it's a different platform, right? Yeah, it is a different platform. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is there any changes you guys want to make going into the next year? Um, just continuing what you're doing now?
Starting point is 01:09:32 I guess just like, I don't know, for me. New Year's resolutions. YouTube, YouTube and New Year's resolutions. I will probably... I'm gonna hit a million subs on the second channel. It's probably gonna be a point. Uh, because I, you know, when the world does open up, I do want to travel a lot more. Yeah. And I actually, like, have a bit more of time to relax. So they'll probably be a point when I'm uploading a little bit less. So I'm not, I'm not, I'm not really, to bother about it all?
Starting point is 01:09:55 I'm just gonna say it now, just expect less uploads on the main channel, I think, just because for one, I want to put more effort into each video now. I don't wanna be confined to this once a week's schedule and like two. You're gonna talk about what anime you're not gonna watch? No, probably not. If I do, that'll be on the second channel
Starting point is 01:10:15 where actual anime content exists. Subscribe. But yeah, I don't know, like, at least with the main channel, like I think, I know, I know what kind of content I want to like focus more on on the same on the main channel from next year, but that is definitely gonna force me to not upload every week.
Starting point is 01:10:31 Yeah, just because it's going to be impossible. Yeah, I think last year my user resolution was to be more productive and to upload more. And then as I've just said this year, I've kind of realized, yeah, that I tried. I really did because I went, I went like a good like four months where I had like three videos a month and I'm just like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:49 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just like, before we went to the UK, it was like pretty consistent. Was it really? Yeah, yeah. Fuck. Well, you don't watch Giggick? I do, but I could just
Starting point is 01:10:57 no, no, no, it was literally just before the office move. And then, and then it took like, oh, really? Fucking, fucking three weeks with the office move. Oh, oh, oh. I mean, it was around the same time. So it was like the first, the first half of the year. And then I realized, okay, my resolution was just unsustainable.
Starting point is 01:11:13 And I'm like, I've accepted that. Yeah. So my New Year's resolution is, I want to do more collapse. And it's not gonna be on the main channel, which is why I wanna focus more on another channel. because I've kind of realized collabs just don't work for the dynamic on my, on my main channel. Yeah, yeah, that's, there's.
Starting point is 01:11:29 What about our collab? Our collab, remember that one? That one? The one, the one collab. That legendary club? That one skit? Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. That was, that was a long time ago.
Starting point is 01:11:40 I was like, three, four years ago. Probably you just threw me under the bus, like that. No, I mean, because like, I wanna do less, something that's, like, not scripted, and I'd feel like anything I scripted and collabs, anything I do on my main channel, has to be scripted, so that video was obviously scripted. I also just want more time to work on side projects.
Starting point is 01:11:59 I want to do a week long live stream at least at some point. I'll do it at some point. Good luck with that, bro. I did three days, just double it. It's just double it. Easy. Did I not break you? No. Three days would like easily break me off like,
Starting point is 01:12:13 three hours and streaming. I think I made a mistake of shouting during one game too much, getting angry. And it fucked my throat for like the next day. And then obviously it was, wasn't having any time to heal, because I was talking all day. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:25 And so that was a rookie mistake. If I do it again, I'm not gonna shout as much. Not as angrily. But I'm, yeah, actually the sleeping in that shit bed was kind of uncomfortable. I didn't really get good sleep. That was one thing. No, yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't with a fucking rave.
Starting point is 01:12:38 Yeah, with a fucking rave going on in the bed. That wasn't, it was the bed. The bed sucked. I'd probably just do one night where I'd just go and sleep in my nice bed. And I'm like, I'm rested, boys, let's get it. Let's go, come on. Must keep streaming.
Starting point is 01:12:49 Yeah, yeah. I don't know. I wanna do that at some point. I went then. Yeah, and I mean, like, I guess like, in the case with like trash taste as well, like because, you know, we're, that the world is hopefully gonna open up a little more next year.
Starting point is 01:13:01 Yeah, we're just gonna be really busy with that shit as well, right? I mean, like the workload for trash taste has been upped as well, right? Because we don't, now we stream every week, if you didn't know, at least until Christmas comes along, which. Twitch dot TV slash Tash Tast podcast. Which would be about now, but once the year rolls along, I wanna continue the weekly stream.
Starting point is 01:13:18 Yeah, I do too. But like, what that means is that we, We're basically just recording another podcast every week. We pretty much have two trash tastes at this point. We have the trash taste and the trash test app up. Yeah, you guys are getting like five hours of content. Which if there wasn't enough of my schedule already, there's another thing to tick off the main channel.
Starting point is 01:13:36 It's another trash taste recording. I think somebody added up all the runtime of trash taste and it was longer than like all of DBC or something. Or something like that. I believe that. I still rather watch that for DVDs. And people were like, I've rewatched episodes there and all of them.
Starting point is 01:13:50 Oh my God. Regarding trash taste though, we figured out earlier that we've only uploaded one special this year. Oh yeah, which is the cycling special back in February, which we filmed the year prior. So, uh, will the figure episode count as a special? It's kind of, yeah. It's like half a special, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:10 I guess it's a special in nature. Yeah. Not a name because we're still in the office. Yeah, I mean, we had the cycling special and then we've had like some mini specials like the figure special, the PC build special. But I guess it truly is like top gear now where we get like, we get like one big special a year and every other week is just like the normal episode.
Starting point is 01:14:32 We should have two specials a year. Yeah, that's probably a healthy amount. Two, yeah, I think two specials. Yeah, well, a big portion of this year was. Well, remember when we first started doing specials, we were like, four a year, let's do it. I'm like, that ain't happening. Well, because we had, we had like, we had just like, back then we had our main
Starting point is 01:14:50 channel and trash taste and that was it. Yeah, that was it. Now we have our main channel. You guys are doing your second channel, streaming, trash taste after dark. And then we gotta do our specials on top of that. Like, easy. Moon, Moon, teach us how this is done, Mooda.
Starting point is 01:15:05 And people wonder why we want assistance. Yeah, right? I really, I'm like genuinely considering it for next year. I think it's gotten to the point where I actually will, it's not a matter of if I need one, or if I want one, it's, I actually need one. Otherwise, I think I'm gonna go insane. No, I've been trying to look for one as well.
Starting point is 01:15:28 But I want, I want an assistant who's in Japan, which is very hard. Otherwise I'd just like fly, fucking fly it out and over or something. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, I am also definitely looking for an assistant. Oh, this episode sponsored by Manscaped. Ho, ho, ho, gentlemen, the holidays came early. Thanks to Manscape. Hell yeah.
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Starting point is 01:16:57 Just gonna drop that bombshell on you guys. I have you? No. Me neither. You gonna have regrets? I'm trying to think. I just, that question just came up on the top of my head. I regret not going to the gym more.
Starting point is 01:17:12 No regrets. I don't know. I regret not studying Kanji. It do be like that. As we found out on the trash taste, the stream. It did be like that. But no, I actually regret not putting more time into Japanese
Starting point is 01:17:29 because my Japanese studying has been like very spotty this year. I'd be like super into it. And then like something would happen and then like I would take a day off. And then that would just like stack onto like two days and three days. And then suddenly I'd find like a month had been taken off of learning Japanese. And then like the first like the first few weeks, of me getting back into Japanese is just like me relearning the shit
Starting point is 01:17:52 that I already knew before. It's kind of like the gym in that day, right? In that way, where you make your gains and then you stop going and then when you go back to the gym, you've got to like regain the gains you already had. It just feels like really demotivating. It's like trying to push through. Sucks.
Starting point is 01:18:09 I really want to go to the gym more. But I'm just lazy. Yeah. Are you just lazy or is it just because you have got so much going on? in your life now that you just don't have the time. I mean, if I really, really, really want to go to the gym, I could make time. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:18:25 But it's not something that I enjoy as much as other stuff. But I really do want to go more. Yeah. Also, some days after I've, like, after I've been, and, you know, you hurt for the next day. And then the day after that, I'm like, I'm like, not great feeling 100%, but it's the only time that week I have time,
Starting point is 01:18:40 but I'm like, oh, yeah. Maybe I'll go, maybe I won't. Yeah, yeah. It's tough. It's really annoying. I don't know. My skateboard is a lot more unflexible now. So I think I have times to go. It's just a lot of difficult,
Starting point is 01:18:54 a lot more difficult to get it in in the way I wanted it to. Yeah, because I think, because you just have so much more shit going on, right? So like, even if you are at the gym, it's like, oh, fuck, you're just thinking of all the stuff that you could be doing other way. Yeah, and I just, it just feels better, right?
Starting point is 01:19:08 I travel a lot more for videos as well now, so that takes stuff by. Yeah, it feels weird that there was a point where the Sea Dog channel was just you inside filming videos. And now if a video is not outside, I'm just like, Connor slacking, man, kind of slacking. What's going on? This is what I'm worried about,
Starting point is 01:19:24 because I'm like, fuck, all right, so let's say I want to go back to the UK at some point. What the fuck are we gonna do on my channel? Everyone's gonna be like, why is it outside? Like, so what's that fucking do in the UK outside? Just go to weather spuds. Just try every pint in weather spirits. It's not a better, actually.
Starting point is 01:19:38 I'd watch that. Try every meal deal at Tesco. I'd do that too. I've already tried them all, but I'll tell like I haven't. but I'll tell like we haven't. Do it on video. I don't even know what I would do. Like, I'd basically be like shitty Tom Scott at that point.
Starting point is 01:19:52 This is, this is a house where they, they get water through a well. It's really old and stuff. That's like the UK, we don't have anything interesting. We only have like really old quirky stuff in the UK. We don't have anything modern that's like fucking insane. Yeah, I guess that's why everyone travels outside the UK. It's going to get some interesting stuff, right? I legitimately don't know what I would do with my main channel content
Starting point is 01:20:15 if I haven't moved back to the UK. Don't worry, I don't have plans to. It's not happening anytime. Yeah, yeah. Just like, I keep me hostage. I don't know what I would do. I mean, this check title trash taste keeps me hostage. That's very interesting.
Starting point is 01:20:29 That's the thing that's weird. Having like having a specific spot I need to be in every week, like a job. And when we have to take holidays now, we have to tell the boys and put in our holiday time to be like, hey, I'm going to be away for this week. So, uh, yeah, I mean, we could just like, put in the, you know, we could just like, I'm put in the, hours ahead of time, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We could just, like, not have trash taste some weeks, but then also it's like, why? Why not? We can easily just make it every week. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And I'm not a fan of, like, the whole not uploading on holidays, because I'm like, I only, like, some of my audience celebrate said holidays. So I don't feel like it's fair to just
Starting point is 01:21:04 be like, oh, fuck you guys, people who don't celebrate the same holidays as me. I'm not, I'm not giving you content. I'm busy. I mean, it's a valid excuse, I think, in some ways when you're, like, you're busy, but, you know, I also like uploading. And I like the trash taste uploads every, every, every week no matter what. Yeah. It's like, no matter how, uh, not of what people are doing, it's like, you can expect that you're going to get a trash taste every week. It's kind of comfort food.
Starting point is 01:21:26 Because I like that about channels I watch that like, no matter where I am, even because sometimes, you know, maybe Christmas I got some downtime, you know, for an hour or two. I might watch a video that's come out that I've really excited for, you know? Yeah, exactly. I like it. I like it. I like it. Well, the thing about Christmas, right?
Starting point is 01:21:38 It's that, okay, so you have, you have, you have the beginning, right? You wake up early. with the family, the open presents, and everyone opens their presents, everyone's all merry and happy. So what happens between like 11 o'clock to 4 o'clock? Food and alcohol and check this shit out. No, because like food comes on at 4, right?
Starting point is 01:21:59 So. What? What? Food comes out about 4. You don't have like a Christmas lunch? What? I mean, like, okay. Wait, wait, wait, what? What's for Christmas lunch?
Starting point is 01:22:09 Whatever you want? Whatever you envision food, a dinner to be. Dude, I'm about to have like an all-you-can-eat buffet for dinner. You better know that I'm saving space for that Christmas dinner. Well, no, I have that buffet at lunch and then don't have dinner. I have both. Because during dinner time, I'm busy getting drunk. No, dinner, dinner, dinner time, Christmas dinner.
Starting point is 01:22:27 It's like, it's like one of the best meals. We don't do that in Australia. What do you do in Australia, then? In Australia, we wake up, we have, we get the, you know, open up all the presents or whatever. Yeah. And then, you know, by that time, it's right lunch time. Yeah. And then all the family comes over.
Starting point is 01:22:40 You have, like, you know, kind of a late lunch, maybe like, two, three o'clock type of like big, big lunch, finish at like 5 p.m. And then that's when you get shit-faced with your family. And by the time dinner time rolls around, you're not hungry because you're still full from the massive lunch. I think I have luncheon and dinner, Christmas dinner. Yeah, it's like a luncheon dinner. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:58 For me, it's like one big meal. No, it is one big meal. For me, for your stomach handle. Yeah. It's Christmas baby. That Christmas spirit, man. It just enlarges my stomach by four times. The reason we don't have a Christmas lunch
Starting point is 01:23:15 or I've never heard of anyone having a Christmas lunch is because I'm pretty sure during Christmas dinner, you eat enough to, like, fill yourself up for a fucking week. Sometimes, like, you have friends who can't come to the dinner or something. So I'll go and I might go meet them for lunch or something. You're going out on Christmas day? Yeah, I'll go to...
Starting point is 01:23:31 What blasphemy? No, I like go to their house. What, you don't spend it with your family? No, no, I'll spend the dinner with my family because maybe there's someone who I want to... You don't spend all day with your family? No, no, not all the time. Sometimes.
Starting point is 01:23:42 I do. It depends on who I can see when and when I can't. You know, some people, they have like, they're having a Christmas thing and I'll go and say hi, I'll turn up and then I'll go back and spend the evening. Okay, so like last time I went back to Australia, I did that. Like, I spent like a Christmas dinner with my friend and my friend's place, like my uni mate.
Starting point is 01:23:59 But I did that the day after the actual Christmas event as like a late Christmas kind of thing. Right, right, right. But like on Christmas day, if I'm not at home with my family, then something's wrong in the family. If I'm not at home with the family, with the family, or we're not going to another one of our families' relatives places.
Starting point is 01:24:16 Yeah, then some beef is going on. Yeah, something's weird. Some of them are friends, some of them are family. You know, it's kind of a mix, you know. It turns who it is. Okay, but like my justification for the Christmas lunch in Australia is that you have to understand that Christmas day is a very nice summer day.
Starting point is 01:24:32 Right? So going outside, eating a massive thing by a pool side is very normal in Australia. Yeah, I'll personally the turkey, I'm in the pool right now. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So you don't have a roast?
Starting point is 01:24:44 No, we do. Okay, but outside. It gets cooked with the sun because it's so hot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We pop a whole- Just have a fucking barbecue basically. I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Not even, we just go out onto the road
Starting point is 01:24:56 and just pop a whole chicken on the tarmac and then it just cooks by itself. It's like, yeah, yeah. No, but like, it's like a usually like, you know, like 34, 35 degree, like nice summer day, right? And it's like you're out on the balcony with your family and you're having a, you know, a nice roast or, you know,
Starting point is 01:25:12 you know, pork or whatever it is that you eat, you know, during Christmas. And we have that during the day because the sun's out and it feels good, you know? That's my justification of why we have one meal at like two o'clock. Obviously, if it was like- That's so alien to me.
Starting point is 01:25:28 Yeah, obviously if it was like winter time, right? I'm not gonna go out at like 2 p.m., right? Okay, okay. So as someone who obviously grew up in Australia celebrating Christmas that way, do you have like this Christmasy feeling? Like, what, do you have a Christmassy feeling? Or do you have anything that gives you a Christmasy feeling?
Starting point is 01:25:47 Yeah, Christmasy feeling is when I'm having a beer at like 2 PM in a pool. That could be, that's like any day for Australians, Joey. Like it's everyday Christmas? Hell yeah, it is dog. Is it like weird watching Christmas movies? We don't watch Christmas movies. At all?
Starting point is 01:26:05 I don't, at least our family doesn't. I mean, Australians do. Do you have like a Christmas spirit? Like, like, like, like. You think I'm like dead inside? No, no, no. Why are you sad, Joey? Tell us why you are sad.
Starting point is 01:26:16 Because I remember, because when I live in Thailand, me and Sydney's celebrated Christmas there for like two or so years. And every year she tell me, you know what, you know, the trees up, we got the Christmas, we got the Christmas songs on, the roasts out, but it just doesn't feel like Christmas. She says as it is like 35 degrees and like hot weather outside, you know.
Starting point is 01:26:37 Just doesn't feel like it. It doesn't feel like Christmas. It just doesn't feel like Christmas. I mean, yeah, no, we put up a tree and everything, and, you know, we decorated it and put the lights on it and stuff like that, but it's also, you know, I'm in my board shorts and t-shirt at the same time. That just doesn't sound festive to me.
Starting point is 01:26:57 It's like board short, board shorts, t-shirt, Christmas hat, you know? There's a, yeah, there's a great photo of me, like, just with exactly that get-up, standing in front of the Christmas tree, sweating my nuts off because it was like 38 degrees that day. Okay, okay, so like, is there like a certain period of time
Starting point is 01:27:15 where you see something, you know, and you're like, oh, Christmas is coming up, you know, because for me, like in England, you know, it was whenever the weather would start getting like really cold and then you'd start seeing, you know, Christmas decorations pop up here and there. What is it like in Australia?
Starting point is 01:27:32 It's the same thing. Is it the same thing? You see Christmas decorations pop up, but at the same time, it's like, oh, I've got to start taking this jacket off. Oh my god, that's so bizarre. That's how we do it. Do you get any houses which like go absolutely fucking mental
Starting point is 01:27:45 with Christmas decorations? Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely so odd. But the problem is right, bro, but the problem is because it's the summertime, right? We can't turn the lights on until it's like 9 p.m. Because it's still bright outside. I'm sorry for fucking Santa Claus and like with like a hot red jacket.
Starting point is 01:28:02 Oh, he ain't in a hot red jacket. He has no shirt on, dear. He's in red board shorts. Usually no shirt on a sole board. Do you have like snowmen decoration and shit like that? No, no, no, no. Actually, does it snow in Australia? In some parts it does, yes. So in Canberra it does.
Starting point is 01:28:19 But not where I'm from, no, not at all. It doesn't get cold enough. It's like the coldest it'll get, maybe is like 10 degrees. Oh, yeah, yeah. But again, like that happens in July. Right. Not Christmas.
Starting point is 01:28:31 It's still strange. What's Christmas for you, Connor? What do you mean? Like, where- What's your Christmas? What's your Christmas spirit? Not being interrogated for my Christmas. Yes, yeah, come on.
Starting point is 01:28:41 What is your Christmas experience? His Christmas is not spending the whole day with his family. No, I like spending the day of my family. Is Christmas like a special day for you? Not like, does it mean something to you, but like, you know, you know what I mean where it's just like, is Christmas just like? The day I'm indifferent towards, I don't feel anything
Starting point is 01:28:58 particular on the day. Yeah, I like spending, it's a good, I like the idea of spending time with the family. You know, it's not, fuck, it's not Mark Zuckerberg right now, don't I? I like human activity. I like seeing people on the day of the 25th. I'm cooking a skillet.
Starting point is 01:29:12 Barbecue, sweet barbecue race. Sorry. Mark Zucker of a meme, sorry. I love that meme. You know, I, to me it's like, it's, I don't know, it's, I like watching the Christmas movies, they're fun. I like the jingle all the way, that's my favorite one. Jingle all the way, what's that one?
Starting point is 01:29:30 It's one where Arnold Schwarzenegger tries to buy that figure for his kid. Oh, that one, I didn't know the name of that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That movie's so good. That's my favorite Christmas movie. Yeah, I don't know. I like Christmas Eve a lot as well, actually, with the family.
Starting point is 01:29:45 So everyone's kind of like, everyone's starting to warm up. Everyone's kind of like getting, yeah, getting family vibes. It's weird because Christmas Eve for us is a normal day. I don't know. We don't do anything special. Christmas Eve night.
Starting point is 01:29:56 We kind of like all kind of like talk, you know, watch TV or drink, you know, have a nice meeting. Because we don't talk otherwise. Pretty much. Not as like a collective family unit. Right, right, yeah. I'll talk to my mom and dad,
Starting point is 01:30:08 or then I'll go somewhere, and then my brother will, you know what I mean? Like, never like the whole units together. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even now, because, you know, me and my family, all of us live in, me and my brothers all live in different areas. My brother's gonna go to Canada now as well.
Starting point is 01:30:21 Oh, shit. So it's gonna be even harder to get everyone in the same place. I was the difficult one because I was on the other side of the world, but now everyone's gonna be the difficult one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So hopefully I'll get to see, because I didn't get to see my older brother when I went back to the UK.
Starting point is 01:30:34 Oh, okay. Because he was busy doing stuff in Scotland, I think. or something. Are you going back this year? What, Christmas this year? No, no, I'm not. Okay. I don't wanna deal with travel again.
Starting point is 01:30:45 I feel that. I lost enough of my lifetime one. But you, because you didn't go to America to see Sydney's family, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I guess that's fair enough. I don't have anything like that. So I saw my family, they got to see me,
Starting point is 01:30:55 I'm like, I'll see you next year. I'll put to go back at some point in April or something and see them again. Wait, was it your parents that said that they would probably never come to Japan? No. Why is that? No, no, no, no, no, they never said that.
Starting point is 01:31:07 Oh, well, why not- They wanna go to Dupan? Yeah, well, why not next time, you know, when the country opens up, they come here. Oh, yeah, maybe that too. Because I don't think, they haven't come to Japan before, no, no, my parents really wanna come to Japan as well. Yeah, I bought, yeah, my Christmas present was flights for them.
Starting point is 01:31:19 Oh, hell yeah. Like last year. Oh. Oh, yeah, well, you go there. So I'm really, do Christmas presents roll over? I'm like, what? Oh, you haven't redeemed it yet. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:31 I'm like, oh, man, fuck. It's sitting there, waiting. So, yeah, no, they want to. They really, really want to. I've really sold them on the idea. When I first moved here, they weren't too hyped on it. But after they've watched, after I moved here, they kind of watched a lot more stuff about it
Starting point is 01:31:43 and they're really excited to go. Which is great because I can't wait to see how utterly confused they are. But yeah, I know, I'm really excited for this coming over. And yeah, that'll be fun. When that's the last time you did spend Christmas with your family then? It must have been a while, right?
Starting point is 01:31:57 The one before Japan, so 2000, right? 2019, I was in Japan, right? Yes. 2018, Christmas then. Damn, I spent a long time. Three years. I guess, so yeah. That's three years, bro.
Starting point is 01:32:08 Yeah, well, yeah, three years ago. Because the first, the first Christmas, I just moved to Japan in October, and I was kind of settling in. So I was like, oh, I won't come back, I'll come back next year, next Christmas. That didn't happen. And then I didn't come back this Christmas either.
Starting point is 01:32:22 Did you guys ever cook for Christmas? Or who does the cooking for Christmas? Oh, my dad. My dad, yeah. Because, like... It spends like 12 hours the day before. My dad's, my dad's just like two days. So like, what I've always wondered is,
Starting point is 01:32:33 when does the torch get passed over, right? Because when you have your own kids gone, because you have no choice. Hopefully not for a while, because I need a lot of catching up to do. Because, yeah, I mean, I've started cooking my own roasts as well, and I'm just like, I kind of like how my roast cook,
Starting point is 01:32:49 but I don't think it's as good as my mom's yet, but I'm just like, I'm gunning for it eventually. But also, also, I'm gunning for the title. Also, I don't know when in my life I want to, like, spend my entire day cooking because when you cook a Christmas dinner, you're just like, as a kid,
Starting point is 01:33:03 As a kid, you have comforted knowing, that's like the parents' job to like deal with. You're out here having fun with your family. They're out there just cooking and all that shit for an entire day. And I'm just like, when is that gonna be my job? I'm kind of dreading that. When a little baby man is appears in your life,
Starting point is 01:33:21 I guess that's when you can start. Joe, don't like, you're just gonna make Aki do it. You're gonna be like, honey, honey? Well, I mean, you know, every Thanksgiving, she spends like an entire day cooking food. And I'm just like, oh, fuck I'm not doing that. Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 01:33:36 You get to enjoy the food too. Exactly. I get to just enjoy the food, right? So yeah, I don't know. Like, I've been thinking that too, because like, because like every time, because I guarantee when I go back for Christmas, which I will be by the time this comes out, my dad is going to force me, be like, son, it's time, you learned the ways.
Starting point is 01:33:53 No, no, no, no, he's going to be in the other room, he's going to email you. Dear son, yeah, yeah, dear son, he's going to leave a YouTube comment. Dear son, coming to next week. video, hey son, help me with the roast. Yeah, but like, you know, every time I do go back home and he, because he cooks every night. Right. I do.
Starting point is 01:34:13 You've got to learn a family recipe, right? Yeah, right. I've learned some of his recipe. What's your dad's, like, specialty? My dad's specialty. My dad's specialty is Moroccan chicken. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:24 Yeah. So he, he bought like this, like, proper, like Moroccan, like, pot type of thing that has like the kind of funnel lid on it, which is like apparently what they use in Morocco. Please correct me if I'm wrong about that. But yeah, it's like spice Moroccan chicken with dates and lemons and it's so good. Yeah, I'm definitely gonna get them to make that
Starting point is 01:34:43 when I go back home. But it also takes like six hours to make and I'm like, I mean, I love to have that every week in my house, but I also don't wanna invest in a fucking pot, let alone spend six hours cooking this thing, you know? Well, that just means you haven't reached that point in life yet. When you said it down in the inner house,
Starting point is 01:35:00 you're just like, maybe, maybe I'm, have some spare time to start a hobby. Maybe I should, uh, yeah. You know, cause there are some like kitchenware, which you never use apart from like that one event in the year. Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know, when you're like a teenager,
Starting point is 01:35:15 you're just like, why would I need this thing? This is just taking up space, right? I hardly have any space in my kitchen as it is, but you know, now, especially moving into my new house, I'm just like, I remember going to Connor's house and I'm just like, oh, Connor, this, this cutlery. It feels good, Connor, God, uh, this isn't, This isn't Dyso cutlery.
Starting point is 01:35:33 I bought IKEA's finest. I did actually feel a little bit, like when I helped Arki last year for Thanksgiving, and she made like a turkey, like a whole turkey thing, because we bought an oven finally. And the gratifying feeling of me going, honey, bring out the oven tray.
Starting point is 01:35:50 It was just like, oh, this is a special day. We never bring this thing out. Oh my God, oh, this is a special event. So I am gonna be like that. I'm already like that with like tools, you know, because I've, you know, slowly done. Which, what kind of tools? Like, like, DIY, like, you know, like,
Starting point is 01:36:09 oh, okay, okay. Like hammers and like all that kind of shit, right? Cause I still don't own a hammer. Yeah, not in Japan. Wait, what? I don't own an hammer. Hammers are quite useful. Yeah, they are quite useful.
Starting point is 01:36:19 A mallet maybe, like a rubber mallet, this is like pretty good. I have a rubber mallet. Yeah, yeah. But like, you need it. You never know when you need a hammer. But when you need it, you're like, thank God for fuck, I say.
Starting point is 01:36:31 Whenever you needed one in Japan. Like having to like knock some screws out of place or something. Or nail, nail some things down to like prop maybe an artwork up or something or, you know, whatever like. One time that IKEA table was being annoying with the screw, I needed a hammer, like push it in.
Starting point is 01:36:43 Making like, like, like tables and stuff like that. And you just like kind of knock it in. It's coming a lot more. I can't tell you every use of ad for it, but I remember I've had multiple times. I've been like,
Starting point is 01:36:51 thank God I've finally bought a hammer. Yeah. Now that, because like when we, our current place that we're in because we have two balconies, right? And like building those balconies, I was like,
Starting point is 01:36:59 oh, I am missing like 90% of essential tools. So I just went out a day to like Tokyo Hands or whatever and just like binged like buying. Binge board. I just like splooshed on all these tools. Joey doesn't binge anime anymore. Binge's tools.
Starting point is 01:37:16 Binge's tools. Binge's his wallet. And like not gonna lie, that was probably one of the most fun shopping experiences I've had in a long time. Do you have a power drill? I sure do, buddy. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:37:26 Do you have a power? Wait, where can you use a power drill? in Japan. Many places. Because after a while, especially when you're buying furniture, like when you first, so when I was first building my room,
Starting point is 01:37:38 I was like, okay, I have a much bigger room now. I'm just gonna replace all of like the desks and like shelves and everything with like much bigger, nicer places that fit the atmosphere, right? So obviously when you buy stuff from like IKEA or Amazon or whatever, that don't come in one piece.
Starting point is 01:37:52 You gotta fucking DIY that shit, right? Yeah, I've definitely been feeling that for like the past few weeks. Don't you hate it? twisting the fucking screwdriver for 17 hours in the week. And to the point where your wrist and your thumb starts to get sore. I do regret not buying. I guess, yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:08 So like I, I do not. Yeah. So when I bought like my new bookshelf, I still had the screw, right? And I was like, oh good, this bookshelf has 50 screws that I have to screw in and they're harder shit as well. By the time I finished like three hours later, my hands were so sore. So I was like, fucking, I'm buying a power drill.
Starting point is 01:38:24 Because though I had another shelf coming in, built that shit in like 30 minutes, because all I had to do is, I just go, ghr-d-and I was like, technology is amazing, it's incredible. Remember when IKEA's selling point was like, that you get to build your own furniture and it's like all convenient and stuff?
Starting point is 01:38:40 And now I'm just like, I've ordered some furniture of Amazon, which doesn't need to be built. And I'm just like, this is a fucking godsend. They're ahead of the game, man. Some IKEA products, I think you can pay them to assemble in your house. Yeah, you can, you can. Because sometimes IKEA furniture
Starting point is 01:38:56 is actually like really good. Yeah. They have some things that- No, IKEA's great furniture. It's just, you know, like- Pair me as to make. Yeah. Like, especially moving into a new place.
Starting point is 01:39:06 You know, making one or two things, that ain't too bad. That's a fun, that's a fun afternoon. When you're making like 10 fucking things in a day, you're just like, can't do this thing just come pre-built? And there are some, like, there are some IKEA things where like, even the way that you have to build it is like some kind of artistic feat,
Starting point is 01:39:22 where it's like fucking algebra one to get like a fucking piece in because it just looks so weird on the instruction thing. Yeah, my table kind of broke a little bit and one of the screws is missing, but it should be fine. Yeah, exactly. It happens.
Starting point is 01:39:34 One of the biggest things, one of the biggest things that annoys me is that I've, now that I've built so much furniture in the past few weeks, I know what kind of packaging is just like good and optimized and what is awful, right? So, like, I was building a shelf yesterday and like every single screw,
Starting point is 01:39:51 every single compartment, every single plank had like a number sticker on it or like came in, came in a bag that was labeled as a certain number. And that's great because you look at the instruction manuals and you see, ah, this number of screw goes into this number plank. Yeah, yeah. I fucking hate the furniture that gives you a bag of screws
Starting point is 01:40:12 and then you get the instruction manuals and it gives you like 10 different kind of screws and doesn't tell you which... And they all look the same. Ikea this. Ikea. And it fucking like blows my mind. It's trying to like, it's so fucking hard
Starting point is 01:40:27 trying to differentiate like a screw that's this length and a screw that's this length on the instruction module. And I'm just like, that could be one of 10 screws. Which screw am I supposed to use? No, the one I hate more than that is like when it tells you like, okay, you have this many screws, right? Like you should have 10 screws. And so I go to count and I'm like,
Starting point is 01:40:45 why is there 11 screws? That's not the screw. Then I realize one is just there for a spare, right? But they don't tell you it's a spare. So you just have to assume that one of them is a spare. So it's like, okay, because when you finish building it and then you realize and you look down
Starting point is 01:40:58 and there's like three screws left over, you're like, yeah, well, I clearly fucked up somewhere. Sometimes in Japan, they give you a pair of gloves with your furniture. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Because for some reason you need, like, it's like to not hurt your hands, I guess, when you build it, they give you like a pair of white gloves.
Starting point is 01:41:14 It's really, I don't know, it's cute. Yeah. It's really cute, I never wear them because I'm like, what the fuck would I wear gloves? And I think, but I actually, I don't like, they give you these shitty screwdrivers and like, Alan, and stuff.
Starting point is 01:41:25 So I feel like it's such a waste. I buy like eight things and I have eight shit screwdrivers that I have to get rid of. I have a cupboard of just unused Allen keys now. Like the shitty screwdrivers are less common than the Allen keys.
Starting point is 01:41:38 Yeah, well I bought my own set of Allen keys. Yeah, same in it. All like perfectly measured and they're great, really good quality. And it's so much better than using these tiny ones where you like destroy your palm trying to do that last turn. It's like they clearly don't understand
Starting point is 01:41:49 the concept of talk. Yeah, yeah. They're not like long enough. Yeah. really long, really good. It's so easy, just like turn it. And like the quality of, for some reason, there are some furniture that the quality of the screws,
Starting point is 01:42:01 it's just like all over the place. Oh shit. There's some that are just like perfectly ingrained. You can get your screwdriver in. Damascus steel, enhanced nails. And then there are some which I swear like pre-sheared. So you, so like you turn it and it's like a fucking ice skate, right? It's just slipping in and out.
Starting point is 01:42:17 And I'm just like, how am I supposed to get this screw in? The worst feeling is when you like go for that, like, it's like this much of the, the screw is still out and you turn it and you feel it sheer and you look at it and it's like already sheared, you're like, fuck. It makes like that horrible, like,
Starting point is 01:42:29 so you have to like fully like put your full pressure on it and not stop because if you let go, it'll like shear it more. You're like, fuck I gotta get this in before it, before I can fuck this up. Is everyone keeping up? You know what we're talking about, right? Just furniture things.
Starting point is 01:42:46 Just middle age guy things. But yeah, I've just noticed that like since, you know, having the balcony and having so many like new, things to build, like, that I, I really enjoy building furniture, like, unironically. Joe, I'm just, like, I'm just buying furniture I don't need. Yeah, I'm like, coming to my house and build my furniture. That's all I've been doing. Honestly, dude, I'll happily do it. It's actually so fun. I don't know. It's like,
Starting point is 01:43:06 I bet he won't. If you actually are like, Joe, come around this time. He says it on camera. Oh, camera turns off. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I'm busy. I'm busy that day. Oh, no, honestly, like, like, you like, buy me lunch or something? I'll do it. Like, I'll, like, dead ass help you out. Because like, do you ever, like, consider making your own financial? Like, going proper DIY. Like buying the wood and everything? I have actually thought about it. But at the same time,
Starting point is 01:43:29 by what though to make what? I don't know, just something. I don't know. But like, you know, maybe like a table or fucking, I don't know, whatever. But like, Marjong table. Marjong table. I have thought about it actually.
Starting point is 01:43:38 I have actually thought about it. But like, yeah, because I don't know, like I took woodworking, like, classes a little bit in like uni. Yeah. Because it was like a thing that we had to do. But like, I wasn't, it's weird because I,
Starting point is 01:43:53 I specifically remember I fucking hated that course. Like I really did not like doing like DIY shit. Yeah. And it's not until suddenly I've like moved and I've got all this like, I think you know what it is. It's not that I enjoy DIY, it's that I like the feeling of getting you furniture. So that just changed drastically as opposed. But it's like, it's I think as well,
Starting point is 01:44:17 it's like it's nice because I mean, you guys have seen me in this like trans like state when I'm building shit, right? Where like I literally just turn on music. Yeah. And I just am in my own world as I'm like making furniture or like whatever it is when I'm making something. It's like I think I like that feeling
Starting point is 01:44:34 because it's almost meditative to me. I like the feeling of buying furniture. That's a good feeling. I knew I was- Eating on my furniture when it's done, Bill. Like I knew I was old where you go through the IKEA catalog and you're just like, oh, that's a good looking desk right there.
Starting point is 01:44:50 Catalog, no, you gotta go there in person, We're gonna go to the IKEA mega store. You gotta feel the chair, I don't really like, oh, you gotta consider the funchua, all that shit, you know. Everything needs to be considered. Gotta consider the color of it, the feel of it, you know. I'm just, when did buying furniture become fun?
Starting point is 01:45:08 Dude, fuck. Welcome to adulthood, baby. You know what was the most annoying part of, I bought that IKEA grass shit, right? Yeah. Just like generic grass that goes on your, yeah, your, uh, patio, whatever the fuck you want.
Starting point is 01:45:21 Yeah. I wanted to have some grass so I could like, because it feels nice. Yeah, it's good, it's good. So I bought it. Turns out though, those IKEA grasses, like the one thing that sucks about them is that like you can't measure them.
Starting point is 01:45:33 You can't like fit them in precisely. Yeah, all right. Like they either fit or they don't. Like you'll either have some of your patio covered or you won't, right? Right. They're like, they're like, I think they're like five by five.
Starting point is 01:45:47 Oh, you got the squared tile. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I got the ones because my, yeah, I just got the roll because my balcony's massive. Well, because IKEA does like square tiles of fake grass. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I didn't really consider how it would fit,
Starting point is 01:45:59 but I roughly measured it. I thought, oh, I was, oh, fuck, I'm fucking, like it. Realized there, I can't block the drain, the water drain. Yeah. Otherwise, no water again. Obviously. So, so then I was like, okay, well, now I either have, like, a big chunk of my patio not covered, and it looks weird.
Starting point is 01:46:16 Yeah. Or I have my drain covered, but I can't do. So, why not cover it with, like, there's, there's, because I know the tiles, there's like a wood tile which has holes in it. Couldn't you just put that there? I have some wood tile on the other side.
Starting point is 01:46:27 Okay. Or what about if you get the square and you cut a hole that perfectly fits the drain and then you can just pop it on top because that's what I did in my place. Oh, okay, so what I did, it's not, it's not like one big drain. The drain's in the corner somewhere else,
Starting point is 01:46:39 but it's like the thing that leads into the drain. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was like, okay, fuck it, I'll cut the shit in half. Yeah. It's like rock solid plastic. Oh, it is like. No, I know. It is impossible to cut the shit.
Starting point is 01:46:51 I was like, what tools did you use to cut it? My willpower. I literally, like, got this piece of plastic. It's like this big, right? Like this. Not even a saw. I literally just like, bend it together with my hands like this, right?
Starting point is 01:47:05 And then I just kept bending it like that. And it weakened, and then I did it the other way. But the other way, it's all plastics. It hurts your hands to bend it. But I was like, fucking bending it. So I bent it the other way, and I just kept doing this. And it got loose enough where I got some pliers.
Starting point is 01:47:17 And I was like cutting the plastic along. Jesus Christ. And it's so goddamn long. And then I had the problem of, okay, because of how these tiles work, there's only like, there's two sides, like the one 90-degree, this side and this side are like
Starting point is 01:47:32 the holes that you connect it to. And these sides have like the clips that it clips into. So I had this problem now where some of it clips in well, some of it doesn't, so I'm like, don't step on that one. When people go to the balcony, because I'm like, yeah, you're just all gonna like fucking break
Starting point is 01:47:46 and fall apart if you step on it. But it looks nice. We got it perfect. Yeah, it looks nice. And I hurt my hands and it took so, damn long. That's why I like the roll variety because it's designed to be cut.
Starting point is 01:47:57 But like I didn't have a big enough area to warrant a whole roll. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a small area. I just wanted grass, I wanted to see more green. Yeah, yeah. Because I, in my previous place, I just had like the wood things.
Starting point is 01:48:08 Oh, those are the wood tiles, which, which look nice, but also I just prefer the feel of fake, even if it's fake grass. Oh yeah, it feels great. Yeah, yeah. That's why I got some parts of wood just for to have that over there. I was like, oh, look at six. But I got grass for where my feet go.
Starting point is 01:48:21 Just not about touching grass with your feet feels good. What can I say? We touch grass. Yeah, we touch grass every morning. Next time you consider insulting me, remember I have grass and that I talk. Even if it's fake grass. Yeah, whenever I see a comment this says touch grass, I'm like, don't mind if I do it.
Starting point is 01:48:35 I go out to my balcony. Ah, so much grass. Do you have a garden in Australia when you were growing up? Do you have a garden? Yeah, my dad had a massive garden. Oh yeah, my, my, my, now that my dad's retired, it's like all he does.
Starting point is 01:48:48 Yeah, garden. Would you ever consider a garden? I want a garden, I don't want to look after said garden. That's the point, right? The idea of a garden's nice, because we have a garden in our English home. As you know, you've been there. And there was a point in time where my parents would just go to Thailand.
Starting point is 01:49:06 And there was a point in time where I would work from home at that house. And then in the months that they were away, I was just, I noticed that the garden just progressively looked like shit and the grass would grow. And that was at that point where I realized, Oh, someone's gonna take care of this garden for it to look good. I don't wanna do that.
Starting point is 01:49:26 That's so much effort. It's a big gardeners. Plants are alive. Plants are living things. And ever since, you know, ever since then, I'm just like, the idea of a garden is nice, but just, I've seen a lot of people, like Sydney's house is like a massive garden.
Starting point is 01:49:43 And you can lose like half a day or something, just like taking care of it. My dad regularly spends multiple days taking care of it. Multiple days. He loves it though. It's like his new child. But it looks amazing, to be fair. He does a really good job.
Starting point is 01:49:56 But to me, it's just like, I think I would absolutely love it if I had the time to take care of it. We haven't got to that age yet where we can appreciate it. Just being able to, like, pull out the lawnmower. You know, have your coffee or your beer
Starting point is 01:50:08 and just go at it. Yes, exactly. Just grab a hose and just hose down. Is that a good thing? I don't know. Like when you get older, you'll probably enjoy those pleasures more. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:16 I don't currently enjoy it. Because I remember when I was a kid, my mom would be like, go on, go cut the grass now. It's your turn. And I'm just like, for fuck. They never made me do that. I got all the other chores.
Starting point is 01:50:27 Oh, they made me do that. I just fucking hated it. To me, it was my dad is like, I'm not letting him do it. It's my garden. It's mine. He's gonna fuck it up. My dad was like, if you don't do it,
Starting point is 01:50:37 then no dinner tonight. And I was like, okay, yes, father. And I do it and I hated it. I just do everything else. That's why I like the fake grass. I'm like, you're not going to go. I hated putting out the laundry. That's what I hated.
Starting point is 01:50:48 I still hate putting out the laundry. Well, Sydney does it actually. Sydney loves that shit. But the way it was in my house is that we had like just a line and a big stick that props up the line in the middle. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:59 So it was always fucking annoying when it was windy doing this when I was like small as well and this pole is massive. So I hated doing it. Mum, it's repressed memories, by the way. I don't like doing the laundry now. That's because of you.
Starting point is 01:51:14 Childhood trauma. I fucking hate that pole. Piece of shit. They still use this pole as well. Get a new pole. Get a better ball. Upgrade your poll. The new poll.
Starting point is 01:51:22 Like I remember, I remember when I moved to my new place and you know, because one of the big thing about my new place that we've added, is a dishwasher, which as you guys, now, you guys have dishwashers now, right? You? I sure do. Yeah, completely changed my life.
Starting point is 01:51:37 And my mom, at the beginning, my mom was like, my mom, my entire life, right, has been like, we don't need dishwasher. Our family doesn't need dishwasher. Yeah. Like that's just, that's just wasteful water. That's just like, you're, water bill and your lectures to be always going to go up.
Starting point is 01:51:51 Yeah, the moment I found out the dishwashers use significantly less water, I was like, well, that's my excuse for the rest of time. I'm like, I'm never, ever, ever washing a hand in the dish man. I'm like, you guys, you're killing the environment. I can't, I can't possibly watch what it is. And ever since, like, I've moved into my new place and like I've shown my mom the dishwasher
Starting point is 01:52:08 and just like how much less effort it takes to, you know, wash dishes after you cook. Wait, you have like a Zoom call with her being like, mom, look, I press the go button. She's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I could be looking for a dishwash for Christmas? Oh, for sure. Just, uh.
Starting point is 01:52:22 Got him. Conversion complete. I was like, where, where was this my entire life, Mom? Was I just your dishwasher, you might, your entire life and now that I'm gone? You need an actual dishwasher? Pretty much. Is that it? That's pretty much it.
Starting point is 01:52:37 I see how it is, mom. I see how it is. Children are just cheap appliance like conversions, right? It's just like, I could spend a lot of money on, you know, a lawmower. Yeah. Or I could get my son to do it with the shitty lawmower. Honestly, when I have kids, You bet you're asking my children.
Starting point is 01:52:51 You're literally describing why people had kids like hundreds of years ago. That's why they had so many. They're like, well, I can't do it. You get married into a house and I was like, all right, how many things do we need to do every day? Seven? All right, prepared to have seven kids. I'm not paying for an assistant, I'm getting a kid.
Starting point is 01:53:07 My P.A. is just gonna be my kid. Sell my stocks, son. We're selling. Hiring and cleaner, that's like privileged rich people shit. Getting a kid, now that's the real shit. That's a life act right there. One thing, sorry to go on a tangent, I just realized, fuck kids for women.
Starting point is 01:53:25 Please don't, please don't. Not that kind. Don't play soundplank music. One thing that I hope I get less of next year, the only regret is that I haven't told these fucking NFT companies that email me every day to fuck off.
Starting point is 01:53:40 Fuck off, stop emailing me. Yeah, we all. Making NFT, fuck off. Yeah, we all get them. It's not just emails, it's tweets. as well. Did you notice on some of the tweets where it's just like a bot that gets like retweeted
Starting point is 01:53:54 to be like, you can buy, like, I don't know how me tweeting about like anime T-Ds or something has anything to do with fucking NFTs? It's either this bot saying, hey, you can do something with this NFT or it's this one guy who every tweet is consistently like, hey, you should read this one. I never got visibly angry in email before, but this one made me like, I shouted.
Starting point is 01:54:14 It was this one where it says, business invitation from the most anticipated NFT game. I've never wanted to hear that string of words ever. And the fact that I got that email made me actually... Wait, what the fuck is an NFT game? I don't know! I don't want it! Stop emailing me! I hate this shit, bro.
Starting point is 01:54:31 You know, if you're into it, that's fine. I don't mind. But why do they shove it down our throats? Because they want everyone. Because it's next gen, dude. It's next gen. Everyone needs to be up to date on that next gen shit. But no, because what it feels like is that this thing is,
Starting point is 01:54:44 this thing that I have like very little knowledge about It's just getting shoved down my throat, right? I understand it and I don't like it. I don't even understand, and I still hate it. I just, but it's because of the shit that they like, the fucking stuff they say on Twitter is like mind-numbing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:59 Twitter since NFTs has become somewhat worse. I don't understand how Twitter got worse, but like NFTs made Twitter so much more annoyed. And then every goddamn YouTuber is like somehow using NFTs for like scams as well. It's all- Are they? So many YouTubers using NFTs.
Starting point is 01:55:14 Okay, can you explain to me and perhaps, that doesn't know. Explain it like I'm five. What the fuck even is an NFT? So there's a, there's a, you're basically buying the, the proof that you own a piece of artwork, right? But it's digital, right?
Starting point is 01:55:30 But it's a digital piece of artworks. It's not a physical piece, but in the, in the blockchain, which is kind of, I don't, I'm not going into that. Yeah, don't go into it. Explain it like I'm five. Explain it like I'm five. In like proof to the world that you're,
Starting point is 01:55:42 but essentially you are paying for the proof that you own something. Okay, right? That's the most basic way I can explain it. So you get a token that can't be replicated to say you own this thing. Right. So it's like a certificate of authenticity. No, that's exactly what it is.
Starting point is 01:55:55 Right, right, right. That's why people are buying artwork, digital artwork for like ridiculous amounts of money because in a sense, even though you can right click and save as that artwork. Like there is a token or like a certificate that says you own the original piece of the artwork. And that, oh, it's so fucking.
Starting point is 01:56:18 Even though it's like digital. That's dumb as fuck. We have, I have friends, good friends who, like, have made a lot of money from it. Yeah. That's what they do and they produce themselves. And, you know, they, you know, it's all four of them. I don't mind them doing it.
Starting point is 01:56:31 I'm not like, you can't do it. It's like, just this whole, this whole aspect of shoving it down everyone's first. It's just the craze, right? Because people are trying to make money from it. Yeah. So the only way to get money and make money from a lot of the, a lot of them, not all them are scams,
Starting point is 01:56:44 but there are a lot of scams as well. There are so many scams. and there's like so many scandals and stuff because there's no regulation or anything. So do people like buy certain NFTs and then resell them price and stuff like. Yeah, yeah, okay. So it's like an investment.
Starting point is 01:56:56 So it's, that's how they phrase it. But there's stuff like, there's been stuff like insider trading where like websites that sell NFTs and showcase them, they have like things, there was like one case where this thing where they basically promote an NFT every week and the guy, one of the like COOs or something,
Starting point is 01:57:14 knew which NFT was coming up So he would buy a bunch of that type of artwork. And then when it went up, he would sell it and make a ton of money. But there's no laws against it because it's not considered insider trading because it's cryptocurrency. Yeah, the cyber police isn't gonna come.
Starting point is 01:57:26 So there's like, it's just the Wild West right now. And for some people, it's great, they love that. Oh, it's a place where because there's no rules, there's no regulation, a lot of people can get scams. A lot of people can make a lot of money very, very fast. And it's just kind of like a toxic environment right now. That's really bad. Yeah, it sounds like it.
Starting point is 01:57:45 So many scams. and I hate the fact that YouTubers have started promoting them and doing it. Of course they have. It's fucking awful. Oh, I've released my NFT. Which is like a shame because I feel like the idea and the technology
Starting point is 01:57:58 has like so much potential and now it's just being used for like really shitty things basically. Yeah, and you know there's also the criticism that it's terrible for the environment and stuff like that and whatnot. Wait, how's it terrible for the environment? Oh, because they're, oh God.
Starting point is 01:58:12 Do I have to go do my own research? The way that like, how the system works It uses a shit ton of computing power to have the blockchain. It's quite inefficient. All right. In general, it wastes a lot of energy to run these fucking nonsense.
Starting point is 01:58:26 Yeah, basically like some of these cryptocurrencies at the moment have as much energy usage as some countries to run, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Genuinely, it's insane. Like the network that NFTs run on, which is called Ethereum, I think, uses as much energy as like Sweden or Sweden,
Starting point is 01:58:46 one of those countries, you know. I'm not like, I'm not like this boomer who's like anti-progress and anti-technology. I'm all for like good technology, but it just feels like the way it's been going is such a fucking mess. Well, it's like, it's just awful. Well, because it's actually been shoved down my throat,
Starting point is 01:59:01 I did actually do like my research and reading into this thing because like, if there's this thing, like I like to understand things and I feel like the problem, the problem now is that it's just so fucking new that nobody knows what the fuck to do it. It's the wild world. And I feel like as the years progress and it becomes more stable,
Starting point is 01:59:20 then there is potential for this technology to be used for something actual good, actually good. And I feel like this technology will be more sustainable in the future as well. As cryptocurrencies kind of figure out, hey, let's build a system that doesn't like burn the entire Amazon rainforests to get running, right? But I feel just right now it is like, I'm staying the fuck away from this. Oh yeah, I'm not touching it.
Starting point is 01:59:42 Like the neat, although that's the last thing they want, does need some kind of regulation in some sense to stop all these fucking scams. And the reason why I know how many scams are is because they always reach out to us to ask us to promote them. There's so many that ask us to promote them. And there's like this fucking nonsense.
Starting point is 02:00:01 It's like, hey, we're like a badger poop, NFT. You wanna? And it's like, fuck off. Just fuck off. Like, it's- Are you looking forward to NFTs being added to your favorite video games? Oh my God.
Starting point is 02:00:12 I think if it gets to a point where it's like, It's not like fucking burning the planet and it's chill, you know, and, and they, it's not so scummy. Cause, cause like, bro, like, I see the shit. I'm just like, the CSGO skin community is like salivating right now. Oh my God.
Starting point is 02:00:31 Oh my God, yeah, NFT skins are games. Bro, it's game over. But it'll probably get there at some point. I can see it happening. I can easily see it happening. If you're having one of the kind of a skin. I'm just like so out of the loop with like, that kind of like,
Starting point is 02:00:42 honestly, crypto and shit. Like, I feel like this is what my grandma must when VR was introduced, you know, where it's just like, I just can't wrap my head around. Like, I did ask, like, when you said Ethereum, like, I was like, oh, okay, yeah, I've heard of that. Because when, the first time I heard Ethereum, I was like, I'm pretty sure you can collect that
Starting point is 02:00:59 in Starcroft, right? Like, that's what it sounded like to me. And then I was like, oh, wait, no, it's like a crypto thing. Okay, never mind. I feel very old right now, my bad. That's the only trend I hope changes or dies down. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:14 That's all I want. I don't care about it. I just want some actual cool applications that are not just selling overly priced artwork, which is just the exact same fucking artwork. It's the amount of times I've seen that monkey NFT, like we're just different skins. I don't even know what that monkey NFT is.
Starting point is 02:01:34 I've got the skin more he's wearing the pirate hat, and it's like, fuck off. You realize how stupid this sounds. Oh, God. At least if some guy spends talking $200 on a Monet, he's got a fucking Monet, which is also, I don't,
Starting point is 02:01:48 I don't think it's good either, but at least he's got the fucking painting. Yeah, exactly. Didn't burn down the rainforest to get a fucking token. And it's such a boomer, I know,
Starting point is 02:01:56 I hate all this stuff, man, it sucks. I just, yeah, scam sucks too. And yeah, again,
Starting point is 02:02:01 I hope that it gets some kind of, uh, I hope that it cleans up its act and it stops being so shit. Yeah, because like, I was reading about, up about,
Starting point is 02:02:08 like, the possible applications NFTs could have. And like, you know, you have a non-fungeable, NFT stands for non-fundurable token. So of course, right now it's been used as a certificate
Starting point is 02:02:18 to say you own this stuff. But it has like a lot more applications above that. You can think about, hey, sending over certification to say, hey, this person, let's say has a driver's license or has like, has, you know, is certified, has a master's degree or something along those lines. Where it's like one centralized unit that anyone can check.
Starting point is 02:02:39 So we don't rely on like some companies like forging drivers license or documentation. Or like having to go all the way to like. Or even thinking, think about house ownership or any kind of ownership, right? The amount of fucking paperwork or, you know, think, think of how much it can revolutionize Japan. If there was one system that said, this person owns this and this person owns that, that's like, that's got so much potential to like, like, like reduce the paperwork by tenfold, man. You got to give Japan time. They've just discovered databases. So, you know, Japan still uses the floppy discovery.
Starting point is 02:03:13 Yeah, they've just discovered what Excel is. So like, yeah, maybe like 30, 40 years time for that. No, I think there is a lot of exciting things that it could be useful. Yeah, right now it is. That sounds cool, right? Like, yeah, that sounds like a real life use, but, you know, like, I remember, like,
Starting point is 02:03:27 the only piece of news I saw about NFT is when it was first popping up was, like, the original Nyancat GIF got, like, sold as an NFT for, like, some stupid amount of money, and I was like, who? What I want to know is, who? Who sold it and how did they prove that they had ownership of it? I think it might have been the original creator.
Starting point is 02:03:47 I don't know. I don't even like the original creator was like, there's actually a loophole for this. We can't actually like, this concept is actually not applicable to what. Yeah, that's, that's the biggest leaphole. So what we're saying is we can't authenticate whether it's authentic or not. Yeah, that's what they said.
Starting point is 02:04:03 What the fuck? Does that not seem ass backwards to you? Yeah, and then someone took there again. And like, yeah, whatever. Oh my God. Yeah, there's still a lot about this place, I don't understand. So I'm not gonna, I'm only gonna comment on things that I do know. Yeah, I just want less scams.
Starting point is 02:04:19 Yeah. So like, for example, like a single Ethereum transaction consumes as much electricity as an average US household uses in a workweek and has a carbon footprint equivalent to 140,893. These are, like, for example, these are credit card transactions or 10,595 hours of watching YouTube. What the fuck? That's like every NFT transaction that's being made right now. That's fucking insane. It's 10,000 hours of watching YouTube just want.
Starting point is 02:04:45 That fucking, what the f- Why? Yeah, right now, right now it. We truly live in a society. Bro, you, bro. That's actually depressing. That's so depressing to hear. Fuck.
Starting point is 02:05:00 What a way to end the year. Well, happy New Year, gamers. Happy New Year. Hopefully next year you won't be as depressed hearing that. Merry Christmas, if you celebrate it, if not, happy holidays. If not, Have a good day.
Starting point is 02:05:11 I'm gonna buy an NFT of my favorite Fortnite Naruto skin. That's what I'm gonna buy. Oh my God, I'm fucking getting out. Get me out of it. Get me out of here. Do they sell the gift of Gun No Jutsu? I want Mara Sen Gun, thank you very much.
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