Trash Taste Podcast - Our Boy Raised OVER $1,000,000 for Charity | Trash Taste #307

Episode Date: May 8, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:42 Yes? Good. This is for you. Because on Spotify, there's an audience that's different. Locked in. Loyal, invested. They're called fans. Fans don't just listen to music.
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Starting point is 00:01:15 It's so cold today, bro. Isn't it? It's like great. Yeah, I mean, it's nice. I love it. It's freezing. Last couple of days, I was sweating like, dude, why are you destroying the table? It's been 300 episodes.
Starting point is 00:01:26 I didn't know you could take this out. Did you know you could take it out? Of course you could take it out. Oh, fuck. I didn't know we could take this out. What? What are you doing it now? I'm just curious, son.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Okay, let's see. Oh, whoa. Dude, I didn't know this call comes out. Yeah. What the fuck is it? Why is it trash in there? I don't know. Why is that trash in that?
Starting point is 00:01:44 It's been 300 episodes. I didn't know this came out. There you go. Did you know that? Yeah. No, you didn't. Yes, I did. How did you know that?
Starting point is 00:01:52 Because all tables that have this kind of stuff to do. Yeah. Really? Yeah. I don't know that. Well, we learned something new every day. Congratulations. Sorry, audio listeners.
Starting point is 00:02:01 I just destroyed our table. Yeah, thanks, dude. Yes. It's not even in properly. It's him, it's him. Yes. So, how you boys been? Good.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Yeah. Chilling. You better be chilling after everything that you've done. Well, yeah, I obviously did another cyclothons. Yeah. This is the first time. Record breaking. Record breaking.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Well, thank you. Massive W. It's the only time I get applause from the boys. Yeah. They weren't impressed when I ate all the fried chicken or the pizza. No. No, yeah, it was good. We did another cyclethon.
Starting point is 00:02:32 as everyone was sure if they're listening or watching have already seen. And I appreciate everyone who, because I'm sure a lot of people who are watching donated or supported it in some way, so thank you. Yeah, we broke a record, which is crazy because I didn't think we would. What was the secret this time? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:49 I don't know why we raised more. I looked at like a lot of the stats and stuff and the viewership was about the same or slightly less than last year. But we raised like 30, 40% more. Yeah. Which is kind of insane.
Starting point is 00:03:06 The oil princes came through. We've heard of this thing called a Cycleathon. You know, obviously every time we've done this from the first time we've done until now, the world has only gotten worse. And it's only gotten like more expensive to survive. So every year I just always brace myself.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Like we're going to raise less. That's fine. Yeah. Because I still think like it's fun to do. I like hanging out. And I love making Joey hammock jokes. Chris does too. I was chilling in my hammock
Starting point is 00:03:37 by the time, as you know. But the story was so good this time because you were supposed to be in Okinawa. Yeah. You said you didn't end up going. I didn't end up going, no. Well, because Schlatte told us that you were going. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:48 So the story actually was great. Yeah. You actually were going to go. I was going to go and then a bunch of personal issues came up and I was like, I don't have time to go chill in a hammock in Okinaw, unfortunately. So we made winks of jokes. and you weren't even on a hammock.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Yeah. Thanks for making jokes, by the way, where I couldn't defend myself whatsoever. That's really cool of you, I love being the internet's punching back. I think Chris is your number one. Chris is my number one hater, bro. He's my number one hater.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Every three minutes, he's like, Joey, Joey on his fucking hammock. I am living in that man's mind, rent free on a hammock. He does think you're on a hammock. Anyway, so yeah, you know, the world keeps getting worse and worse. And, you know, things only get more expensive. So every year I always brace like, hey, we're going to raise less.
Starting point is 00:04:39 But that's not what, like, I don't go into it thinking if I don't raise the same amount or more, then it's a failure. I just always think like, hey, I want to exercise for two weeks. Yeah. Want to hang out with my friends. And I would eat a fuck on a food. Eat a fuck so much food. Yeah. And, you know, any amount is great.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Yeah. And look, if we raise, like, a third of what were you normally raised, yeah. Of course I'd be a little bit bummed out But that just puts so much like faith back into humanity You know like the fact that again As you said like it's getting more expensive To live day in and day out
Starting point is 00:05:08 And yet people are still like Fucking who cares It's like you know It's for a good cause It's just like we're doing it like what three weeks ago So it was like you know The World War III was just starting to And I was like this is kind of
Starting point is 00:05:19 Kind of crazy timing to do this But hey fuck it we got to do it every time Yeah Yeah and it raised a credible amount I don't really know why I think this should year I noticed that a lot of people have been like commenting saying when I was cycling with donations. They were like, hey, I've been watching for so long and I'm glad I can finally donate.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Yeah. So like a lot of new people. I think, I think a lot of people who had watched it who were really excited to kind of donate for the first time. Yeah. I think that helped a lot. So that was really cool. Sick. So it's been cool doing it. And it made it more fun to be like, oh, wow, I'm not just, well, when you do the same thing every year, you're like, I wonder when people are going to be like, bored. It's like a yearly event now, you know. Yeah. It's part of, it's part of the calendar. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that I'm glad that people see that way too. Not like a thing that needs to be upped. Because I'm, I'm they're like, what are you going to do this year to make it different? I was like, not much. New guest, man. Garn's coming. He didn't even ask me this
Starting point is 00:06:13 year. I remember the text. He was like, so I'm doing his life on this time, by the way. I'm like, he just assumed it was going to be a year. I just assumed you were coming. You didn't even ask me. I was just like, I just assume he's coming. He's like, by the way, I booked you in for these days. Yeah. If there's anyone I can definitely just rely on to show up, but you go. Did you have as good of the time or as miserable all the time? Oh, I had a fantastic time this time.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Yeah. That's good. Schlat tanked the bad weather this time. Yeah. Which was the day before I came. Oh, shit. And I remember meeting Schlat for the first time and it was our first meeting and God damn, he looked miserable. He was fucking miserable.
Starting point is 00:06:58 It was so, so miserable. I heard that his like e-bike broke down, right? No. No. Was that the story? Well, so do we, so, okay, first of all, so I asked Felix, I asked Garnt, and I asked Rob again, because they did it last year. I know you guys all did a great job.
Starting point is 00:07:14 I was like, I'd love to get them on again. And for the most part, it's kind of, for the guests, there's like two criteria. It's like, are they available? And is Chris okay with them? Yeah. Because Chris is kind of, you know, Chris is like, I don't want to talk to people. I don't care for. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Right. So, you know, he's like, God's a good one. Rob's a good one. Joe, he's on a hammocker. He's like, no, and then it's Slat. He's like, oh, I met him one time. He's good. Yes, get him.
Starting point is 00:07:38 I was like, okay, I'll have Slat. So, yeah. So there's a list. And there's not a big list of people that Chris is willing to cycle. Right. So Slat's on that list. Rather bizarrely, you wouldn't think, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:51 He also asked Slat and Slat was surprisingly down, which I found like, I was like, oh, okay. But his stipulation was, he wanted the knee bike. Sure. And so Nabi and Ian were lurking, and it was impossible to find an e-bike that we could rent because where we started it was North Almory. And there was two options, which was find a bike somewhere in Al-Mori and then return it or have an e-bike that we pay for like two and a half weeks for and transport
Starting point is 00:08:21 around for two and a half weeks, taking up all this room. And it would have cost like two grand or something. I don't know. it would have been ridiculous to rent it for that long. Because in Japan, for some reason, renting bikes is so expensive. Like actual bikes. Yeah. If you're not doing like the Shinnamu Kido, you want to just take a bike around.
Starting point is 00:08:37 Yeah. I don't know why. Or maybe we're just, we find the most expensive services. So we managed to find one, but it required, like, Nabi and Ian to both drive, like, two hours. We found one, one store in Almory that was willing to send us an e-bite. And it was this big mountain bike, e-bike looking thing. So we got it, brought it over, rode it. it seemed okay. But the moment Slash started
Starting point is 00:08:58 cycling, it was just obvious that it was just like limited or something. Like, it just wasn't working. Like, he was peddling faster than us and like going slower than us. Right. And it's nothing to do with the gears or anything. It was just, it was just not just not working. Well, maybe it would
Starting point is 00:09:15 be good for like slow trail or maybe just going up a vertical hill if you want through mountain biking. Yeah. But yeah, it was just not good enough. I don't know. Was any, are there any of any any other impanabby to the bike? It wasn't good enough, right? It's working. I think, again, overall. It was limited? I think it's the weight
Starting point is 00:09:30 that's... Slat is a big guy. He's massive. That mountain bike is heavy and again, I also tested it on the mountain bike and I can feel the assist going up. Right. I think it's only when he was going uphill, I saw it working on the flat, I wasn't doing anything.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Right, right. I think it's maybe the speed, it's like maybe like the engine didn't kick in if it wasn't on an incline or something. So we told, we called the guy up after the first day. So we swapped Slat's bike. He got on an actual road bike. He's wearing like quarteroy and like a, he's not wearing anything remotely close to what. He was like wearing jeans and shit like. Linen, linen. Linen. And I was, I told him, I was like, hey, well, also I, I actually shouldn't have to tell him to bring sports gear. Yeah. But I think, you know, he was like, I'm having an e-bike. I don't need a thing. Like, like of all things,
Starting point is 00:10:19 linen. Like, was he trying to melt his dick off? I don't know. I don't know. Well, it was kind of cold in Al-Mori. Right. Yeah, like three weeks ago, it was pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, Sure. It was like five. No, no, it was like 10 degrees. Okay, yeah, yeah. It's pretty chilly. So I think he was definitely, he was prepared for the e-bike, not for the real bike.
Starting point is 00:10:36 So he did 70K in linen and corduroy or whatever it is. And fair play to him because he wasn't prepared to do 70K. Sure. But he just did it. Yeah. But obviously, when you do 70K a first time, as Gant can tell you, the next day your legs are fucked. You're right. And the worst part was, is the next day started.
Starting point is 00:10:56 And it was probably the worst weather I've ever experienced on a bike. Like, it was bad. Bad, bad. It looked bad. It looked awful. Yeah. And it was so, like, terrible rain with, like, hurricane winds. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Which was the worst part. Like, the rain you can kind of get used to. Sure. You just get wet. You're miserable. But the wind, like, pushing you back the entire time. Yeah. Uh, was by far the worst part.
Starting point is 00:11:20 And blowing the rain into your face and shit. Yeah. And then we started off leaving, uh, where it was. It might have been Almore. Not Almorri or something. Yeah, it was Almory. We left Al-Mori and went right onto like this set of like horrible,
Starting point is 00:11:32 like highway kind of roads. They were like just about the bit, like the most highway-looking road you can get in Japan before it's a highway. So it was really horrible cycling in it too. And obviously he didn't have good waterproofing stuff. He had like the bare minimum that he brought. Because you don't expect.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Yeah, exactly. And my shit was ass too. But it was definitely a little bit better than his. but I'm also used to it. Like, I know what to expect. I know what it's going to feel like. And so I think after about 20K he did, he was like, he was broken.
Starting point is 00:12:05 He did 20K and we had 85 to do that day. Oh, shit. And after about 20 going off hill, oh, we so we swapped his bike. Sorry, I forgot to mention this. After that night, we knew the weather that was coming. So I told Nabby, I was like, can you call this guy up?
Starting point is 00:12:19 He's like, we've paid for this bike and it's clearly not doing what we wanted to do. Yeah. Like maybe there's a different bike. Maybe we can swap it. So he swapped it to a mamacelli that actually wasn't actually worked a lot better. Right. For like the city ride.
Starting point is 00:12:32 The power of the momachetti. Yeah. So it was a pretty brutal star because we'd go up this hill all day as well. But then, yeah, after about 20K, he was, he was broken. He couldn't do anything. Yeah. And, you know, Slap plays this character. And he's really, really good at being this aggressive guy.
Starting point is 00:12:48 New York. He crumbled, bro. He was dying. He couldn't keep it up. He'd gone through it. He was dying. Damn. He was like, I'm actually just really hurting, dude.
Starting point is 00:12:59 I got to stop. So he, I told him, I was like, look, we're not going to finish today if you're cycling with us. Yeah. So you're going on the car. Yeah, yeah. Which he was obviously like, no. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:13:14 But then because he felt bad, he donated, he matched every donation that came in during his leg, which was $18,000. Damn. Yeah. So he donated $18,000. Hold on. So that was crazy. And I think he had a type two fun situation.
Starting point is 00:13:31 I think he actually... I hope he's going to be a type two. It might be a type three. You might make the dreaded tight three. That's a character building situation. He didn't have fun. It's pretty fucking miserable. Suffice to say, I think for next year,
Starting point is 00:13:45 cycle, athon, you're going to have to figure out that HECD slot again. Yeah, I'm going to find someone else. I don't know if he'll say yes. He might say, he might want to redeem himself and cycle more. I don't know. But he... Well, hopefully he had a nice trip in Okinawa to cap things off. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Yeah, I remember when I met him, he couldn't even come out of the car because he was, like, hurting so much. He was like, hey, man, good to meet you. I'm sorry. I kind of can't walk right now. I'm just gonna shake your hand here. And then so he, we pick, he picks us up at the station. And then we drive to his hotel.
Starting point is 00:14:18 And just seeing him get out of the car, it took about like 10 minutes for him to be like, And he was, he, he, he walked like, uh, he just had like a car accident or something because he was just like, he was just like, oh, oh, oh. And so he slowly waddles towards the, uh, towards the, uh, towards the hotel, check him in. And Ian, uh, one of, one of the, uh, drivers and cameraman and helpman, like, he's like, okay, don't worry, I'll check you in. So he like, shuffles, uh, slats slowly into the hotel. You know, and just to help him in and to cap it off. I think it's because like Ian was being so helpful and tender witch last.
Starting point is 00:15:03 So he checks him in and then at the hotel, they're going to note just saying, by the way, same sex couples cannot share a bed together in this hotel. And it was just like, oh, okay. Damn. Damn. Holy shit. Which is illegal, by the way, for them to do that in Japan. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Yeah, that's fucked up with a hotel, but also hilarious. So, yeah, that was my one meeting of Schlapp, but the important thing is, are you going to go through with your promises from the Cyclathon? Because when I was on the Cyclathon, we played a little donation game. Oh, fuck. Where the top anime. So everyone voted for an anime. And the top anime that won, Connor would need to watch. Guess what one?
Starting point is 00:15:56 It's a one piece. It's 86. Oh, 80s, okay. I got to rewatch it. At least it's not a thousand episodes. I've got a lot of things I need to do that I promised I would do. So I'm working my way through it. All right.
Starting point is 00:16:06 What are the promises? Play Stardy Valley, which I played. I did like an eight-hour stream. Oh, that's easy. Yeah, that's easy. Yeah. Pete promised to do the Halo trilogy with him. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:16 So that's like three days of streaming. Okay. I promised I would do all the Final Fantasy 14 DLCs. Oh my lord. That's like 100 hours. I mean, you're basically just setting yourself off for like six months worth of content. You're not gonna get through that
Starting point is 00:16:29 before the next cycle of on. I don't think I will. Yeah. I don't know. We'll see. I'll try my best. I don't know. And I wanted to do other stuff too.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Not anymore. Yeah, I still have to play Final Fantasy 10-2 which I promised last time. Right. I haven't done. So I've got a lot to do. Yeah. Got a lot to catch up on.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Yeah. But yeah, I got to watch 86, which I will do at some point. Okay. Probably on one of my flights. What are the long flights? Just knock it out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:53 I have a flight to the UK at some point, so I'll probably... Oh, there you go, perfect. That's like a morning flight. Because it's what, like a two-core, right? Um, yes, two-core. So it's like 24. That's like 20- that's easy. That's one day.
Starting point is 00:17:05 That's like 10 hours, easy. Yeah. That's one. Might not be a fun 10 hours for you. I think it'll like it when I rewatch it again. Yeah. When I force myself to like it. It'll be fun.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Just rewire your brain. I think it'll be fun. I think it'll be fun. I think I'll enjoy. But yeah, Shlitt had a good time over the net. And then Garn. Yeah, Garn avoided the worst days. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Sandwiched between two of the worst days I've ever cycled it. Damn, lucky. I paid my debt somehow. That's the comic retribution. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You are so lucky. And he had, like, two stunning days. Like the first, the first life that you did on your first day was like, the one that I
Starting point is 00:17:43 didn't cycle was like top 10. Oh, it was fantastic. It was just me and Chris just enjoying the view together. It was like cycling in a lot of, like Alaska. Because it's, it's the most... In Almory? Yeah, so if you go Almory, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:56 you very top, you go down. Yeah. And then as you get to the top northwest point. Yeah. If you open the map, like, look at the most northern west point of... Like around... No, no, so scroll out. Scroll out. The Almory preface. So get a Fukura in the west.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Go west. Yeah, there. Fukura, yeah. That's what we were cycling around. It's just like Alaska. Damn. Like just tons of massive trees, mountains. And, uh, that's really pretty. And no one there either. No one was there.
Starting point is 00:18:27 There was one was one was one. Whoa. That's really pretty. Yeah. And I was saying on the live show, I was like, this is so cool. No one would ever come here. And then someone was like, actually I came here? Actually, I live there.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Because there is a, there is a one thing to do is there is a famous train that goes around here. Because the views are like, oh, it's 10 out of 10. Yeah. Like you go along the coast for quite a lot of it. And, uh, it's really, really, really. beautiful. It's like you get some incredible views. Oh wow. That rock we
Starting point is 00:18:55 cycle by. Yeah. And like there's so many cool formations in the oceans that you go by. But sometimes it's delayed because the wind is so bad. A.K. what I fucking cycled through. And yeah, we cycled so late that night
Starting point is 00:19:12 that, so that day on the one that he went in the car, we had hailstormed that day. And the hail got bad. I don't know if you I don't know if you did you see the clip of how bad our house Yeah I saw it. It was like You were filming outside the car and it looked like there's like a snow Like avalanche of hail falling on this car
Starting point is 00:19:31 And it was like 5.30 p.m. We had 20 more cater to do So we were cycling in the like rain at night With winds they were really really bad It was horrible it was horrible horrible horrible Start your alienware journey with the streamlined alienware 15 We designed this machine to refine the essentials, creating a more focused gaming laptop for players who demand quality without the clutter. We engineered a brilliant 15.3-inch 16.5-harts display seamlessly into a portable 15-inch
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Starting point is 00:20:41 Yeah. And then he had another good day. And then he left and it was awful. God's like, I got you. He like held it. He's held it together. He's the Cheeto in the door. I got this.
Starting point is 00:20:54 And then Rob joined us for three days. He was just three two. Yeah. But then Felix was like, oops, I forgot. Yeah, I heard he missed one of the days. Yeah, he forgot. And I was like, Felix, he's like,
Starting point is 00:21:09 I thought it was one day. I was like, Felix, it's always two days. But he was a good sport about it and he came. Then next day he missed his train. And then he got off at the wrong stop. Oh, my God. So he's, he's, He's too chill.
Starting point is 00:21:23 He's like, yeah, man, just figuring it out. Yeah, like, show up on time. But, yeah, and then Rob got two awful days as well.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Yeah. Like, we got, yeah, but knowing Rob, he's just like, this is just every day for me. He's like,
Starting point is 00:21:35 he's incredible. Yeah. Yeah. That man is a machine on a bike. He's fucked at cycling. Yeah. It's fucked up. Because,
Starting point is 00:21:41 like, it's easier for me to cycle than it is to walk. Well, yeah. I mean, because like, when we normally have guests,
Starting point is 00:21:47 it's like, oh, we have to slow down to, to like, down to... Slows out for us. You're like go up and down the hill while we're getting up here. It's so psychotic.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Insane. But yeah, it was really fun and we ended in Osaka. Mm-hmm. And yeah, it was really cool. And yeah, Pete had a giant check. Yeah. It's upstairs right now because he promises he's going to pick it up at some point. But it was fun.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Yeah. Hell yeah. Though the important thing is the real reason you do the psychathon. Yeah. What was your favorite meal this time? Oh, yeah. Let's see that the top five meal high level. Because every time I go on the psychathon, fuck me, the amount of calories, these boys intake every day.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Well, yeah, because I mean, how many fucking calories are you burning a day? Okay, that's a fallacy. Wait, wait, wait, hold on. I don't know. I'm with Joey. I'm a jury. I'm a judge. 70 to 80K on a bike is quite a bit of calories.
Starting point is 00:22:41 I will say. I agree with you. I agree. He did 80K on his first day. That's a lot of calories. That is a lot of calories. But every time I talk to Chris, he would talk, I call it Chris, Chris. Chris.
Starting point is 00:22:52 right? He's just, you know, he'll do like, he'll do like two hours and like, yeah, I think I burn a thousand calories. We did like 10K in that and I was like, and every time I taught him, his estimate would go up every time. Yeah, the calories, the calorie estimate that he would be in. The worst part about discussing this on a live stream is that everyone becomes an expert. Yeah, of course. Because it's something that everyone talks about. Yeah. It's like, actually, I'm a nutritionist and you only burn X amount of calories. What are we on your day? We had curry And then we had more curry You doubled into curry? We had Indian curry for lunch one of the days Before doing like 50 kays of science
Starting point is 00:23:31 That sounds like a nightmare It was like Yeah, you know, he brought me back to the time before we do any like Trash Tastes After Dark Life Street You basically swallowed a stone We had curry the next day too Yeah What did we, we brought curry?
Starting point is 00:23:45 We had Katsi curry the first day And then we had Fully mark guys. And then we had Indian curry the next day. I don't remember this Katsu Kari. Oh, we did. Oh, yeah, in the lodge. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was a lodge in the middle of nowhere.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Yeah. In Akita, and it was so sick. It was in like a mom and pop lodge. And it was so busy. Yeah, it was. It was like everyone in Akito was in this lodge on a random highway. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Because there's nowhere else to eat. Yeah. Yeah, but it was good though. Yeah. And the other food looked good too. Chris, Chris got the giant. Because it was like, We both got Katsu Kari.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Yeah. And then they always do like a like a Honchitzu no set, which has everything. It has like the Katsu. They had like sashimi, tempera, like a bit of fried chicken. I'll take your entire stuff. And it looks ridiculous. It looks ridiculous. So it was, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Well, the problem, okay, this is like, I think it's fine to have big lunches. The problem is, is that I think, um, if you snack a lot in between, that's where you, like, the hidden calories sneak in. Yeah. You'll, because Chris crushes these energy jellies. And I, I think that they take them. I think they taste disgusting. Oh, I love the jellies.
Starting point is 00:24:49 But they're like 120 calories of pop. Yeah. And he'll be crushed from one every stall. Yeah. It's like, I mean, a lot of people use them as like meal replacement. Yeah, I just don't, I don't want to eat 600 calories of sugar and jelly. Yeah. I'd rather just have like a fat katsu.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Sure, I don't feel great, but I enjoy it more. I mean, Chris would, I would agree with Chris's method if he also didn't eat like 2,000 calories for lunch on top of that, you know, like, if the jellies were the replacement for the meals that it's like, okay, you're like controlling yourself there, but you can't be like a jelly here, a jelly here, 5,000 calories for lunch, and then more jelly, like you can't do that. What do we eat on your evening?
Starting point is 00:25:26 Do you remember what we ate? I have no memory of like most places. We had the Chinese. Oh, wait, which Chinese? How many Chinese did you have? Three Chinese. Oh shit, it was in that hotel in Arthur. Wait, that was my favorite,
Starting point is 00:25:41 that was one of my favorite meals. Damn. Okay, so the hotel, we stayed in this. It was called, I remember, because you had the weirdest name. It was rural hotel Ogata or something. Something like that, yeah. Um, okay, yeah, rural hotel Ogata.
Starting point is 00:25:55 And it was right next to the Ogata, like, peninsula, the big, like, uh, I think it's like, is it like a swamp or marshland or something? Yeah, this is it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It looks like a fucking... Why does it look like a Scientology building? All the hotels we stay and look like this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:11 All really old and like 80s relics. Oh, yeah. This is definitely sure. Because we got there quite late because we finished quite late, and it was quite a long drive. I remember the restaurant was Chinese food. Yeah. I remember thinking like, okay, I mean, sure, we'll go for the hotel food.
Starting point is 00:26:28 But it was like, I mean, I fucking loved it. I think I was, I was, maybe I was just desperate, but I fucking. No, it was good. The Chinese food was really good in this hotel in the middle of nowhere. So if you ever end up in Orgata, go to the rural sun and go to their Chinese restaurant. It's actually really fucking good. And I had an onset on the top floor there. Oh yeah, I remember I switched to this old guy.
Starting point is 00:26:49 And he asked me where I was from in a way that I'd never heard before. In a dialects, probably. Maybe in a dialect. I'd never heard anyone ask me because I had a double take and be like, do you remember what it sounded like? No, but it was way shorter than what, like, they normally say. They always ask you like Nany Kuni or they always say something out or Chishin. Did he say something like Doko or something like that?
Starting point is 00:27:11 Maybe, yeah. Because if you're, what prefecture is this? Akita. Oh, yeah. Then he's probably speaking in like a Torhoca dialect. Yeah, something I'd never heard. Axtad prefecture. Aksda dialect is fucked.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Same with Aalmody as well. It was just me and this old guy in the onsen and he was chaned up a storm to me and asking me all about why I was in an... I haven't seen a white boy in 15 years. Yeah, he's like, what the fuck you do you do? Why are you in the onsen? Do you like onsen?
Starting point is 00:27:38 I was like, I love onsen. He was like, really? You love Ansen? Do you have them in the UK? I was like, nope. Not at all. That's why I love them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Yeah, yeah. And he was telling me he'd sit in there for like two hours. I was like, that is psychotic, but his skin was also leather. Yeah. So it's probably like easy. I mean, I'm getting skin gapped. I don't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Yeah. Top food, though. So I don't know. I don't know what the top. Oh, actually, there was this. Well, at the end, we had the Hughes Pizza at all cycle. Yeah, that looked good. That was so good.
Starting point is 00:28:09 But we also had another pizza, which is more Italian style. And this place was. was crazy. It was also in Akita. It was the day after you left. Oh shit. It was all the best food in Akusa, man. Surprise. It was that good that I would go back. Chris did not take me to any of these places. Chris had never been to this one. It was called a string field in, uh, I think, uh, it's Akita, right? Stringfield. It's right at the bottom of like Akita when you, yeah, this one, dude. Okay. Let me tell you how I knew this place was like fucked. When we were talking to them,
Starting point is 00:28:44 There's a wife and a husband, and the wife was super energetic, and she was super stoked about what you were doing. And we asked her, like, this is so good. She's like, yeah, the prosciutto, we made ourselves. Oh, damn. I was like, you made it yourself? Three years, they aged it in the back at the restaurant.
Starting point is 00:29:02 They have a room where they were making the prosciutto fresh. And everything was, like, made fresh. And this guy is like an absolute expert at making these pizzas. And everything was amazing. Is it just me, or is Japan's pizza game? Upping itself. I think like Japan pizza is is as good as like Italy and New York. Because it's funny. Yeah, because it's funny because like this past month I went to two pizza places in Tokyo, both different places, one in Nakano and one in Nakamiguro. And it was like,
Starting point is 00:29:31 I was like, where the fuck did these come from? Like this, it's so good. You cannot underestimate the sheer power of, I don't know how to explain it over than autism. They will, they will get locked in. On, like, hyper-fixated on making something, like, good in Japan. They just, and you, you're, and it's so bizarre, because it'll be in the most random place. Yeah. There's like, I've studied the ways of gelato. And it's like, you know, there's no one else who lives near you. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:30:01 I have made the perfect gelato. I trained in Italy. I've locked in. Aided once, and now my entire life is revolving around. It's crazy. It's ridiculous. They get so locked in. The owner also trained at the, I forgot the restaurant name in Tokyo, the Italian restaurant.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Oh, oh, oh, oh, it was the, it was the, the, like a famous Italian restaurant? No, it's the chain. Size area? No. Yeah. It's the foreign chain that does stone baked pizza, L something. It's white logo. I've never had it.
Starting point is 00:30:35 I've never had it. Yeah, you're definitely seen it in Tokyo. I'm going to type L and I bet it will show up. Italian. I don't have a logo. stained by pizza that often. Yeah. Yeah, but like I have noticed there is a lot more like... I'm not saying these guys have autism, by the way. I'm just saying like... Autism like energy. Yeah. Otaku, hyperfixation, whatever you would call it, you know.
Starting point is 00:30:54 But yeah, yeah, yeah, I think, like you were saying. Yeah, yeah, it's, there's a lot more, like, you know, foreign cuisine places coming up that do like, bang our foods in Japan. Yeah. That wasn't just, especially pizza as well. Yeah. Before, I remember when we visited, when we were, like, tourists and stuff. I was like, damn, is there no place to get a decent pizza here? The best pizza is like dominoes. It literally was dominoes. Um, and now you like turn around the corner and there's like an Italian place that like specializes in stone bag. Well, because you know, do you know what the recent trend in food is in Japan right now? American barbecue. I've seen that. The Japanese have discovered American barbecue and now like all the American barbecue joints in
Starting point is 00:31:33 Tokyo are just rammed as fuck, not with tourists, but with Japanese people. Because they're like, wow, the Americans have been eating good. And it's like... I mean, American barbecue fucking slaps, man. And I think they've like finally figured out even like the Japanese run ones because a lot of them are like run by Americans who live here. But like even the Japanese run ones now
Starting point is 00:31:52 have like figured out like, oh, okay, this is how to do it. And Japanese people are like, hmm, oh, is she there, Japanese barbecue. I can't eat most of it. I love it. There's a couple of good spots in Tokyo. Yeah, yeah. A couple of good spots in Tokyo.
Starting point is 00:32:03 But they've recently popped up a lot. And I think maybe that also is in tandem with like the up in quality of like pizza and just like foreign foods in Japan? I don't know. Maybe it's all. Now we just need to get the Mexican food game up. True. That's going to take a while, I think.
Starting point is 00:32:18 It's going to take a while. I did find one in Harajuga that was really fucking good though. And I was just like, all right, that's two that I know in Japan. The burgers we had. The burgers? Oh, at a butcher's cream. What? Could you repeat that?
Starting point is 00:32:36 It was called, it was near like first. And it was, yeah, a restaurant called Butcher's Cream. There had to have been a better name. Look, I don't, I don't know. Okay, they look fire, though. Okay. They had a honey chicken burger and it was, like, their smash burgers are really good. But I think the honey chicken, the fried chicken burger was maybe the star.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Hell yeah. It was very, very good. But yeah, the name is not great. That's the chicken burger, the middle one. Okay, that looks fire, actually Yeah, it was awesome Very good What else do we have that was amazing?
Starting point is 00:33:14 We just so much good food Most of the dinner meals are not that great Because we were kind of like dead And we'd be like, all right, we'll just get something Yeah Yeah, were you just, mostly just hotel food, right? No, because most hotels business hotels don't really have dinner
Starting point is 00:33:29 That was just the one that had Like dinner luckily But kind of just whatever's nearby really. Sometimes conventy food, unfortunately. Yeah. You should be able to get anything. Got to take what you're given. Yeah. Well, oh my God, gusto.
Starting point is 00:33:44 We're going to gusto so many times. Oh, I'm so sorry. I learned that they have a good grilled chicken. Really? They have a spicy grilled chicken on the menu. It's like 700 of calories, kind of a lot. 700 calories. Yeah. But it's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Yeah, but it's still a DT chain. It's not great. I don't like it. But Chris would always find a way to order a lot. Give me everything. Yeah, yeah. I burned 5,000 calories today. Well, congratulations on the record-breaking cyclathon, man.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Thank you, thank you. Yeah, that's gross. Yeah, it's always fun. Thank you for joining. No worries. Yeah, speaking of food, though, yeah, right in the middle of the cyclophon, I also opened up my first one-day collab cafe.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Oh, yeah, I saw that. I said I couldn't come. How was that? Nerve-wracking. But we only did it for one day, You did a collab cafe with Mouse, right? And that was open. It was like three months.
Starting point is 00:34:38 That was like three months? That was open for? Well, because we was initially won, but then they told us, oh, it's doing really well. Do you want to just leave it open for two months? Or they were offering like four or five. Holy shit. I was like, I'm good. I just didn't, I don't know, right?
Starting point is 00:34:54 It felt like too long. Yeah. Yeah, we... You didn't want to overstay the welcome. I felt like it would lose its charm the longer it was around. Yeah, yeah, of course. But, yeah, I mean, but yours would like, an actual...
Starting point is 00:35:04 Yeah, so... So, when I, like, pitched the idea, I was just kind of like, okay, I want to do, like, a one-day meeting greet, but kind of make it, like, cooler, you know? So I was like, yeah, let's do, like, a collab cafe. But I, like, initially, so this is like, I found out, as probably Conner did, like, there's several routes you can go for a collab cafe. You can go for, like, one of the chains where it's, like, a specific spot where they specialize in collab, different collaborations with different IPs and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:35:31 or you could go with, let's say, a more like just a traditional cafe or traditional restaurant and just team up with them. And then you would have to kind of like develop your own menu and come up with your own. Because you're basically, it's basically you're hiring out the venue instead of like you collaborating with this cafe. Right, right. And, you know, I was like, I'm only doing this for one day. So I wanted to try something a little bit more, you know, different. Try something new. So we teamed up with 10 cups, which.
Starting point is 00:36:01 is an awesome cafe that was recommended by May Lynn. So I knew if it had the Maylin pass, I was like, okay, I know the food, I know they can cook there. You know, I know they can cook there. Because talking to Emily as well, she was like, okay, biggest thing, that's the biggest thing, you know, as she said,
Starting point is 00:36:19 is like, I've been to some cafes that have some like awful foods. Oh, yeah, definitely. Yeah. That's more the rule than the exception, I feel. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So I went to, I approached 10 cups and they were like super open.
Starting point is 00:36:35 And I was like, okay, so in terms of the menus, since you don't have like a template of collab cafe items, which a lot of traditional collab cafes do, we gotta just start from scratch. So it was like a Marn themed cafe. So obviously one of the big things with Barn was the curry. So that was like simple. But I was like, would you be able to recreate a recreate a,
Starting point is 00:37:01 a recipe if I gave it to you. And they were like, sure, we can try our best. And I phone up the real expert. I was like, mother, mother, would you be willing to share your recipe with this cafe? That's just like, written down. That's like generational. Yeah, it's just like, depends. Who's asking? And she, and she's like, as you said, she's like, oh, I've, I've never written it down before. So, so she's like, sure, I can try. And she writes down a kind of like first step by step guide on how to cook her, like,
Starting point is 00:37:43 how to cook her curry. Yeah. And I look at it and I'm like, mom, this is like fucking unusable. You just put, okay, add, literally one of the lines was just like, okay, add curry paste, add sugar to flavor. And I'm like, what the fuck does that mean? It's just, mom. That's the exact same shit my Hungarian grandma used to do.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Whenever I was like, Grandma, can you teach me how to make Hungarian food? And I would be in the kitchen with her as she's next to me. And I'm like, okay, how much paprika do I add? And she's like, enough. Yeah. Like, what does that mean? Yeah. It's like, just add enough paprika.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Yeah. And so she's like, okay, don't worry, I got you. Yeah. So the next thing she does, she doesn't even send me an ingredients list. She just gets my dad just to film her cooking it. And just like, having a step-by-step like TikTok, like, okay, you do this and you do that? The visual learning. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:39 And then we translate that into a step-by-step-like guide on how to cook a curry, which, which, you know, I was thankful for because one of the biggest things I was worried about was how the food was going to taste. And so we managed to take the base of that and then they kind of like change. So it was more in line with what you see in like the anime, but like the flavors are there and then they were like so great because they have like a lot of like it's like a very bougie kind of like cafe. So they helped me develop like another drink, which is like like a pan damn cocktail, which was like a you know, we try to incorporate a lot of like Southeast Asian flavors to it. And the last, yes, that was that was the cocktail right there. And honestly, obviously I'm biased. I'm biased. And honestly, obviously I'm biased. but I thought all the food there tasted fucking fantastic. And that's because this was like even without my food there, like I went to that cafe before
Starting point is 00:39:39 and the food there fucking slaps anyway. So being able to, and the last thing we had was like a coconut dessert. And honestly, like, the reviews for the food, which was I was worried about. I mean, Emily hasn't made her cafe video yet because I saw she was filming there. So I don't know exactly what her final opinion was, but... Like, it's ass. Nah, I'm sure she'll have good.
Starting point is 00:40:06 Yeah, a lot of people were saying the food there was very good, and I was like, okay. You're like an actual nice cafe. Yeah. You know, you'd hope it would be as well. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And then you got the mother's recipe? I mean, come. Yeah, yeah.
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Starting point is 00:41:33 Yes. It's about the customer's palette. And so it was super weird, getting the feedback. And, you know, a lot of people from Southeast Asia came here and they're like, the flavors are here, but it's missing some spice. And then some other, some other customers are come in and would be like, it's a little spicy for me. You either have like high tolerance or no tolerance as much, right?
Starting point is 00:41:55 It makes me appreciate just what kind of thought needs to go into. When you have a restaurant like this, like how spicy do you make the dish when it's like, when you are having a restaurant that is not in the country of origin? Yeah. I guess that's why a lot of restaurants like that in Japan especially have like a system where you can choose the spice in this level, right? Mm-hmm. Just to make it easier. Well, it's, it was for some dishes, but some dishes, it's just like, it's better just to have like the spice baked into the flavors, you know? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:23 For sure. You know, personally, I feel like personally there is like a perfect spice level because to me, when it comes to spicy food, I don't like the pain. You know, I don't like the pain for the sake of having pain, but sometimes there's a certain dish where it's just like it enhances the flavors and it makes like the small pain you feel just worth it. Yeah, as someone who used to not even be able to eat a level one cocoaichi curry to now glow up to a level four. Oh, wow. I get it now. I totally get it. I used to, I always used to be like, why do people like spicy food? It just fucking hurts.
Starting point is 00:42:58 But now I get it, like with some dishes. You know what made me change it? Was it when you took me to that fucking Sri Lankan? Oh, was it Sri Lankan or Bangladeshi? Like, curry place. This was years ago. There's a very long time. I think it's somewhere like Roppongi or somewhere or like Tona Nomon or something.
Starting point is 00:43:16 But Connor took me to like a curry place. I think there's like a southern Indian or Sri Lankan. I can't remember which one. It was like Sri Lankan or Southern Indian. I forgot which one it was. But you took me to that place. And everything there was very much above my. spice to the level, but I ate all of it because I was like, it was the first time my brain was
Starting point is 00:43:33 like, no, this makes sense. That's what got me into it too when I started tasting food that I felt like was incredibly delicious and was incredibly spicy and I was like powering through because every bite was so good. Yeah. But I was dying at every bite too. I was dying at every bite, but at the same time I was like, if this had no spice though, I don't think it would taste as good. And that's when it clicked in my brain. Yeah, because I remember trying to the first time trying a cocoa Ichman 10. And I was just like, I like spice, but this is too spicy. Yeah, it's not good. The spice doesn't add anything to the flavors. It's just sitting on top. Yeah, yeah. It's just like spice for the sake of spice. I'm not a masochist, you know. I will be
Starting point is 00:44:10 for spice if it's worth the flavor. I'm not trying to prove to anyone. Yeah. You know, it's a mild pork curry by like nature. It's not like a green curry, right? That is inherently normally is spicy as part of the flavor profile. So I think when you just add it just because you can, it's like, yeah, I can make a salad fucking 10 out of 10 spicy, but like, I don't because I'm not an idiot. Yeah. You know, like it doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Totally. Yeah, it looked awesome. When I, when I, when I, when I, I, I was obviously cycling when it's going on. And when I watched the, I was watching the clips where I went to bed and I was like, yeah, one of day. It looks so much fun. Oh, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Well, it was only one day, but I like, I was so glad I could do this because, you know, a lot of times when we do like me and green. The main reason I wanted to do this was because, like, you know, when we meet fans and people at conventions, you don't really get to have, like, a conversation with them. Yeah, it's just a better way. Yeah, it's kind of just like you have, like, the handshake. They say, like, one sentence to you. And then, you know, that's, that's the entire interaction. And I got to have, like, so many, like, meaningful interactions. Even though it was, like, very limited seats, even I still felt like I didn't get enough time to talk with, you know, even though I got more time. I didn't get enough time to talk with everyone that came,
Starting point is 00:45:21 which was my biggest regret. But, you know, I still... Hey, you can always do another one. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it was super surreal. Just, I'm used to when I meet fans and when I made people, it's a lot of like memes, especially like, let's say, on like the trash taste tour or something like that. You're like, bro, when you talked about that, like, the pooping or the NTR, bro, that's, that's fucking, that was like, bad ass. That was lit, brother.
Starting point is 00:45:51 And this was like, it was like my first experience, like meeting, uh, meeting fans, like, you know, when I released barn. And I, there was like so many interactions where, uh, I were just, I were not emotionally prepared to kind of receive. There was, uh, one of, one of the big clips that I got spread around was there was this one girl who, like, shared her story about how she was from Mexico, moving to, uh, moving to Japan. And then she was like having a hard time.
Starting point is 00:46:18 And she like watched, she watched Barn and it like really helped her to kind of like shoot for her dreams or what she was trying to do in Japan. And she shed a few tears and I was just like, fuck, man. That's so sweet. I'm getting emotional, but I don't know how to fucking process this right now. And I just had to step out for like a little bit. And like another interaction that really like really stood out to me was like this one guy as like the cafe was closing down. He was like, I just, I need to stop you for a second because I need to tell you something important.
Starting point is 00:46:51 And I was like, oh shit. And he was like, yeah, something happened at the Bayern premiere. And I was like, oh shit, they'd like geeks plus fuck up somehow. Not my fault. It's like, what's happened? And then he just starts like spilling his guts. He was like, actually, I don't want you to say anything. I just need to tell you.
Starting point is 00:47:11 And he's just like, at the premiere, like someone asked the question, what is the meaning of Ban? What is the meaning of home? And you're like, I'm not going to answer because I put my answer in the short film. And he's just like, I need to tell you what I think the answer is.
Starting point is 00:47:26 And I just need to you to just listen. Right. And he's like, like, 10 minutes about like, what's, you know, where he thinks his home is, where he, how he thinks that relates to,
Starting point is 00:47:37 like, the stories of like Rin and Daiichi. And it was just like, holy fucking shit. I, you know, I, brings me back to when I have seen so many anime, seen so many like different stories that I've liked, that I've like given me something in my life or that I found an answer in with like, for example, like Ava or something. And I was just thinking, holy shit, if I met like Anna or
Starting point is 00:48:02 something, I would just be like, I don't want to know what you are thinking. Yeah. But this is how I feel. And I want you to hear. Yeah. Yeah. And I was just like, oh shit, man. I'm gonna stop you for a second, I'm gonna talk. And I was just like, I was hearing it, and I was just trying my hardest, just not to give anything away. Because obviously, it's, you know, I wrote the story. I know what I wanted to put in the story
Starting point is 00:48:28 and just hearing someone else's interpretation of that and just hearing that he just needed to tell me, not because he wanted to know he feels right or not, but just he just needed to tell me. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Fuck, man. This is what I was for, man. That's so sick, man.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Yeah, that's really sick. We've managed to reach people. Yeah, yeah. The plot twist would have been, if he was just like, going on was just sitting there like, be like, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, and the entire time he's just like,
Starting point is 00:48:55 that is not what that is. You're like, you're fucking idiot. Did you even watch the anime? He's thinking about rental girlfriend. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. No, I'm sure it was a nice message.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Yeah. But like, yeah, like, I'm not gonna say whether it aligned with what I, you know, what I tried to do. Yeah, yeah, of course. But I will say it's super surreal, you know, putting, you know, making a story and having intention about what you want to convey, what you want to do communicate. And then you can't, it's just like, you kind of just leave it to other people to kind
Starting point is 00:49:27 of like, see if they catch it or not. And it makes me feel like, okay, everything I've watched, does it matter if, I mean, this is basically just death of the author, right? Does it actually matter if my interpretation aligns with the author intentions? Because in this day and age where we talk about fucking viewer comprehension being down. Literacy crisis. Yeah, the literacy crisis, you know, how important is it for the viewer to understand or really catch on to what the creator wanted to communicate as long as you, you know,
Starting point is 00:50:03 how do you balance that with, did you understand the, how do you balance understanding the right message versus actually getting a message in the first place and having it be your own kind of like interpret? I think, well, as an avid reader, I would say, I think if you can glean any personal meaning or message out of it, regardless of if it aligns with the author or not, then I think that makes a successful book. Because like, if an author writes something and they're like, okay, this is the kind of the hidden message or the message between the lines that I want the readers to figure out, and then you make it too on the nose, then it doesn't become as, at least in my opinion,
Starting point is 00:50:39 as engaging as a reader to try and figure that out for yourself. I think half the joy of reading something, especially fiction, is to put yourself in it in some aspect and be like, oh, okay, well, you know, maybe I see myself in this aspect or this aspect, or maybe this has this particular meaning that makes sense for me, which might be completely off the mark. Yeah. But I think if you can still take something out of that,
Starting point is 00:50:59 other than just a great story that was great from start to finish, if you can take something out of that that you can hold on to, regardless of if the author meant it or not, then I think that's a good book. So in the case with Barn, And I think that just proves to people that like, it's not only a good story, but it also has that messaging that is very powerful for different reasons. And I think that makes a good narrative. Yeah, I mean, I think what I've realized, you know, seeing the modern discourse on certain shows is that, you know, you can have a story, but everyone watching it has different life experiences and different values.
Starting point is 00:51:37 And they, that will always hinder or maybe not. Maybe Hind is the wrong word. That will always influence how they interpret a story or how they interpret like a piece of work. Yeah, I mean, you know, look at- What if they just took like the complete wrong meaning? That's the thing. That's- I've been trying-
Starting point is 00:51:53 What if they watched Barn and they were like, yeah, immigration is bad. No, okay. What if they got that? Kick out all the foreigners. Like, what if like, that's the- I get you, God. No, I know that's obviously like,
Starting point is 00:52:07 you don't have to be a 10 out of 10 moron. But like, there are certain pieces of media, people do walk away with genuinely the opposite of like the rough intention of the story. I do wonder as like an artist, what that would make me feel if that was like what someone took away from it? I want to actually answer that question. Okay, wonderful, wonderful. Because I've been debating this law and I'm sure like everyone who's ever created the story has a different approach to it. I have definitely read interpretations from like feedback and comments and stuff like that. The internet's a big place.
Starting point is 00:52:39 I've definitely read interpretations that definitely were not in line with what I tried to put into the story. I'm going to say that out right now. But I was thinking about it and I was just like, should I ever come out and say, no, you are wrong? No. I feel like I should, no matter what, even if it's like completely the opposite, I will, I won't tell them they're wrong. I will leave that to other people who have watched it. and maybe have experiences that more closely aligned to what, you know, what I've experienced in terms of my life story. Yeah. Maybe, you know, more resonate with the messaging. I feel like,
Starting point is 00:53:19 I feel like it's up to them to kind of defend and defend their viewpoint. But I should never, as the author, being, give them the answers, you know? No, because I think it completely defeats the point of a narrative that you're trying to glean a message out. I mean, you know, and also, at the end of the day, we've seen authors or like, you know, creators of stories do. that and it basically leads it. I mean, look at Ava. Yeah. Well, you know, Arno, Arna was like, oh, actually there is no meaning to Ava. It's just basically, I don't believe that. Yeah, right? But that's the thing. The creator, but like, you know, in the traditional sense, you think to yourself, okay, if the person who wrote this story says that there is no meaning,
Starting point is 00:53:57 then there must be no meaning. But that didn't stop the entire internet from being like, no, Arna, even though you made the story, you're wrong, because this is how I interpret it. Yeah. Sometimes it takes a life of its own. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that, and I think though, if a story can take a life of its own, regardless of if the interpretation is correct or not, then that is a story that's going to have longevity. Yeah. You know, because if everybody knows the answer to the message behind the narrative and everybody has the same consensus on it, then it becomes not worth talking about, right? Yeah. So I think it's better off having people having the wrong interpretation, whatever it might be.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Because I've also, I also know like a bunch of like artists and like storytellers who they just, they just do and they don't think. They, you know, they just like, oh, why'd you make the story? It's like, oh, I just thought it was cool. You know, I wasn't thinking too much about it. I just thought it was a cool character. I just thought, you know, I just wanted to do this. Totally. And I think even like subconsciously, you know, maybe they didn't consciously think about something.
Starting point is 00:54:55 But this is their work that has, that is a combination of their life experiences, their values. And maybe, no, not every artist consciously thinks about what they want to convey in their work. but something is always conveyed. Yeah. You know, whether they like it or not. Yeah, it's the English teacher fallacy, right? Yeah. It's like, oh, the author says that the curtains are blue,
Starting point is 00:55:17 which means that they were very depressed. Meanwhile, the author is sitting there being like, no, the curtains were just blue. Yeah. It's like, you're reading too far deep into it. And it's like, no, author actually, I think I'm right. No, I think there is a deeper meaning to this.
Starting point is 00:55:28 I'm gonna psychoanalyze you right now. Yeah, exactly. But you know what? Maybe the author was depressed and he didn't know it. You know, we don't know. We don't know. We don't know.
Starting point is 00:55:36 But that's what makes the discourse interesting, right? And that's what keeps the discourse alive. And I think that for any, like, written or, you know, any, like, artistic work is healthy for the art because it keeps the conversation alive, right? Because the moment the conversation stops, then there's no point paying attention to the art. I also feel that as a human being, like, if you ask me, like, questions about something that maybe I made, like, three years ago, I don't think I'd be able to tap into the same, like, place where I was at mentally. Yeah. Totally. To be able to, like, run through it.
Starting point is 00:56:08 Like, if you wrote Barn again in five years, oh, no, it'd be different. Like, so much would be different. Yeah. Totally. And maybe you trying to discern meaning from, like, a project that you worked on a long time ago or try to explain things. You actually might just be interpreting through the lens of Gant today.
Starting point is 00:56:22 And not Gant seven years ago, who might have been, like, a really different person. Yeah. And I think people are always very reluctant in an age of, like, everything being on video and seeming so concrete to accept the fact that, like, We change so much faster mentally than I think we'd like to keep credit for it. Well, that's why, like, for me personally, whenever I start to read, say, like, a new novel from, like, an author I don't know. I always try to make sure I know about the author's life as much as is publicly available, because it gives me a better understanding of what
Starting point is 00:56:56 mentality that author was in when he wrote the particular work. Because, you know... Is that for, like, more like history stuff, less so for fiction or... No, no, even for fiction. I mean, like, you know, whenever, like right now, for instance, I'm reading, um, Man in the High Castle, uh, which is a novel by, um, what's his name? Is it the World War II one? Yeah, it's like, like, the Nazis win?
Starting point is 00:57:19 Yeah, it's, um, done by the same guy made Do Andrew's Dream of Electric Sheep. Um, fuck, what's his name again? Uh, I know, Philip K. Dick, thank you. So, like, Philip K. Dick, right? Like, you know, I've read Do Andrew's Dream of Electric Sheep, but this is like, an completely dame of, different stage in his life, essentially. So, like, I wanted to know, I don't know the first thing about Philip K. Dick, other than he wrote DeAndro's Dream of Electric Sheep, which became Blade Runner. So when I was going into this book, I was like, okay, what kind of mentality was he in? What
Starting point is 00:57:49 point in his life was he in when he decided to write this particular book? And it gives more of a meaning, and it makes it a little bit easier to start deciphering, like, oh, you know, maybe he wrote this because of this particular thing. Sometimes it might just be completely, you know, non-scentive, and it might not have any correlation to his life whatsoever. But sometimes I've read authors where it's like very much inspired by that author's time in their life that made them want to make that particular work. And it just makes the conversation more engaging and a little bit easier to get a certain message out of it without misinterpreting it too much. See, I'm the completely opposite.
Starting point is 00:58:26 I love to know less about. Really? Me too. Yeah. It's almost like, sometimes I watch something and you get a feel about, okay, you know, I know you're probably like this kind of person, you know. Or sometimes you can very much tell the personality of the person that made a certain piece of work. But yeah, I don't know. Something about knowing more about the story of the author behind it.
Starting point is 00:58:56 Something about it is just, I don't know if it's a me thing. it probably isn't a me thing, but something about the intrigue gets, some of the intrigue gets lost in it, I think, because to me, I love to judge a piece of work by itself, you know. I love to judge a piece of work, not knowing anything about the author. And then maybe if I'm interested enough, then I will, like, know, find out a little bit more about the author. But most of the time, I would love to go in completely blind.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Right, right. And come in with, like, a blank slate. No, I think that's valid as well, obviously. Maybe it's just like the authors that I've been reading that might be more correlated in that sense. Yeah. Like a lot of like Franz Kafka's stuff, which I've been reading a lot, was like very heavily inspired by the point in his life that he was when he wrote that particular book because even if you don't know anything about it, it's very obvious that it's like, okay, this is clearly, you're talking about something that's happening in real life when you wrote this. Yeah. But it also makes it interesting because like I obviously, you know, whenever I read something new, I try to obviously just look at. at it as a piece of fiction as if it's an anonymous author, obviously. You know, just, just measure it on the basis of the work itself. But I have been able to find, I guess, like even more meaning or maybe potentially different meanings, knowing the history of how this came to be. Yeah. And then I use that to kind of reflect back on the narrative itself to be like, oh, okay, so that's why they wrote it in this way or that's why the story worked in this way.
Starting point is 01:00:26 And it just, I don't know, it just becomes more interesting. And I feel like, Personally, I can glean more meaning out of it in a way that doesn't seem like completely off the mark. Yeah. Not that I'm afraid to be like completely off the mark with an interpretation, obviously. I mean, it's an interpretation. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. You're getting educated, Jerry. And I might know everything about the author and I still might misinterpret it. But that's just the nature of interpretations, right? Exactly. Exactly. Like I'm not the author, so I'll probably never fucking know. Yeah. Um, but yeah, it just, it just got me, It just got me thinking a lot, being like, you know,
Starting point is 01:01:02 being on the other side of things and how I approach anything I watch or like any media I watch, whether it be like just cheap power fantasy or, you know, some, you know, deep meaning. I think everyone is inadvertently trying to convey something, even if that something is just, oh, I like, I like to feel good and feel powerful and I like to, uh, I like to get women, you know? Big men strong, yay. No, totally.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Yeah, so last weekend I went to Fuji Raceway for the first time, which was sick as hell. They had like a big kind of motor GP, I guess like F1, F1 sort of, but like with drift cars. And so like all the world's best like drifters were there just doing these like drifting events. And dude, I mean like, you know, When we did the drifting special, I was just like, okay, yeah, you know, drifting is cool.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Vrum, vrum, ha ha. But, like, I got, Aki and I have been so into the drifting scene now, because, like, we've seen, like, the world, you know, the top people in the world, like, just drifting these cars and going sideways, like, it's fucking nothing. Really made me reflect on how shit I was, for sure. Or you couldn't even get the fucking car started. I couldn't even get the car started. Yeah, you couldn't work a man.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Yeah, exactly. So just seeing that and just, like, seeing, like, how the actual competition works and stuff was really cool. Also, Fuji Raceway is like such an iconic raceway because it's just, you know, it's at the base of Mount Fuji. So when we were there, like, super clear day, just seeing these drift cars drifting around with like Fuji in the background was just like really sick. And, uh, Aki got to be a flag girl. So she was the flag girl for the, not the drifting event, but for the, uh, zero to 200 event, which is basically a bunch of like super fast cars all gathered and just did this straight away.
Starting point is 01:02:58 to 200 where they just start at the start, Flag Girl flags down, and then they just pedal to the metal and doing a raceway. And it was the most Tokyo Drift thing ever. It was fucking sick. Because it was also really cool because they actually had cars that were in the first couple of Tokyo Drift movies. Oh, cool. As well. Oh, not Tokyo Drift, the Fast and Furious movies. How did you get Asch to be a flag girl? Who's the procurer of Flagwomen? Oh, so how we managed to do it was we have a friend of ours who runs car events. And he's like a big car influencer here.
Starting point is 01:03:30 And we just like met him randomly, became friends with them. And he was just like, you want to go to these events? Like, do you have any interest in cars at all? And it's like, I mean, I know nothing about cars, but I know that they are fast and they're cool and they go vroom for them. And, you know, I want to learn more about it. So, yeah, we got to go to this one. And then we're going to go to a massive car convention in August called Fuel Fest,
Starting point is 01:03:52 which is in Fuji Raceway, but there's like 40,000 people who attend this thing. Damn. And it's just pretty much all weekend, just fucking drifting, street races, just seeing like the coolest fucking cars ever. And it looks sick. So yeah, definitely getting more into like the car scene. I'm slowly learning like, oh, that's a supra. Or like, oh, that's a GTR. That's a GTT.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Like, I'm slowly starting to pick up on the lingo. Yeah. But yeah, no, even if you know nothing about cars, it's just good fun because everyone is just there to just show off their cars. Everyone's just super nice and they're just like, yeah, please take videos, take photos. What's the food like that? Food was. Are you asking about the food?
Starting point is 01:04:34 I'm just curious. I just gonna know. You go to a car event. I wonder how the food is. I mean, if you're expecting like, oh, they served curry in like a small GTR, like no, it's nothing like it's just basic, just, you know, cough, like just food, like, you know.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Bro, bro is one thing on his mind. I just thought I was curious, about the food at the fast. I don't know what you were expecting. Was it like like, you know, like, Katzu or like would they have like burgers like I mean just like you know a bunch of like food stalls and shit you know like Katsu burghers you know yaksoba just nothing to blew you away nothing blew me away no but you're not there for the food you're there for the car yeah if yourself up Jerry yeah I'm always there for the food I mean field fest might have some better food I don't know but yeah yeah it was good it was good fun saw the baseball as well this year finally uh which team uh Yokama base I'm rooting for. Where's to go see the Giants game
Starting point is 01:05:29 with Yokama Bay Stars? There were one one right up until the 9th and then they did an extension and then nope fucking Bay Stars came back with a sound letter home or not. It was hype as fuck. A giant's the one that the team in Major Jingu?
Starting point is 01:05:43 Tokyo Don't. Yeah. What's the team Swallows? The Swallows are the ones Yeah, called Swallows, yeah. In Major Jingu I think. Yeah, they're not, they're the other Tokyo team, I'm pretty sure. That's the only one I've been to you. Yeah. I used to live like really close
Starting point is 01:05:56 the stadium and kind of not too hard to get tickets. This is the oldest one though. This is the oldest one, yeah. But it feels old when you're there. It really does, yeah. The seats are micro-sized. Yeah. But I think it's so old that like Babe Ruth played in it.
Starting point is 01:06:11 Wow. Really? Babe Ruth played in Major Jingu. Holy shit. It's like a part of her like initial, I think like, you know, piece spreading kind of thing. That's pretty cool. Yeah, but they're getting rid of it.
Starting point is 01:06:23 Oh, really? I'm tearing it down, I think. Oh, I don't know when. I'll tell you that. I'll tell you what, the food is good there. The food is good. I got a command there that was very good. I was mostly just there just fucking flagging down the beer goal every five minutes.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Are you just going to events being like, what's the food like? Yes, yes. He's going to go to his first like F1 event and be like, I mean, it was cool, but I'll tell you about the food. But food, five out of ten. I am a certified fat ass. It's what I care most about. That is the way you can impress me is if the event has food.
Starting point is 01:06:55 But yeah, the, yeah, built in 1926. Damn, it's 100 years old this year. Holy shit. Yeah. That's cool. It will be demolished. That's great. You've reached 100.
Starting point is 01:07:04 You've had your fucking fun. I mean, to be fair, when you're there, it's kind of crazy to think, like, it feels like you're in, like a ice school stadium. It doesn't feel like a, like a big sports stadium. Because I saw your story of you in the Yokohama one. Yeah. That one looks ridiculous. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:21 That is a, like, full-on fucking massive stadium. And it was so fucking fun. Like, again, I'm not, it's like the car events. I'm not that into the baseball. I'll watch it casually. I'm just going there for the vibe and the beer girls. That's all I'm going for. I'm just like, I had like, I think I had a beer every inning.
Starting point is 01:07:40 And I was fucked by the end of it. It's great because it's not, what is it like? It's like, 1,000 yen normally for a beer? 900 at the York Armistadian one. You're mentioning it was 1,000, bro. They're scaring me. No, I was like a beer for less than $10 at a sporting event. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:55 That's insane. This is unheard of it. And the best part is it's basically Uber Eats because you get it at your seat. Yeah. Like you just flag the beer girl down and she comes to your seat and gives you two beers that she pours in like a draft unit. Yeah. It's sick. It's like, you know, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:08:11 It's ridiculous. Yeah. It's so good. It is so fun. And they have like Czechie, which I didn't do. I didn't get that. But I guess some people are like fans. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Some like hardcore. Yeah, there's this whole subculture where they treat these beer girls. I did not know this. So some baseball fans will go to like every single game, half to support the team that they're supporting, but the other half so that they can buy beer off of a particular goal that they're really. It all comes back to idols here, man.
Starting point is 01:08:38 It all comes back to idol culture. Everything, everything is idle. And they're like, we're going to make sure that out of all the beer girls, you with the fucking Asahi keg that weighs like 40 kilos will get the most amount of money. All the beer costs the same. And which beer do you like the most? like your can, standard can beer in Japan. Kieran?
Starting point is 01:08:57 Kieran? Yeah. Yeah, they're a Yibisu girl. Okay, okay. So I was like, this poor girl, I was like, where the fuck the Yibsupu? Yeah. Because the Asahi and the Sapporo girls were always around. And I was like, get fuck out of here.
Starting point is 01:09:09 I want the Yabasu girl. Oh, really? There was only one, there was only one Sipora go in my game. So I was just like, where the fuck's the support? Is you a favorite? I love Siporo, yeah. Yibisu's my favorite. So I was trying to get the Yabisu, but it was really hard.
Starting point is 01:09:21 And I was like, right, Pee, let's just get a Sapporo. Or a Kieran. Yeah. Just not Asahi. Yeah, just not Asahi. No, not Asahi. Not Asahi. I think everyone's cool with agreeing that like Asa's the worst one.
Starting point is 01:09:32 But it will do. I mean, I'll still drink it. It will do. But if I can have any of the other ones, I'll take them. Yes. 100%. But yeah, it's fun. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:40 It's like the Budweiser of like Japanese beer, you know. It's like the most well-known worldwide. But I wouldn't drink it. Yeah. It is smart. If I had a choice. It is smart, though. I mean, to think like, you don't have these people
Starting point is 01:09:53 constantly going up and down, getting out of the way. You just have one girl who goes around with a giant keg on her back. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, it's awesome. And she gets commissions for every beer she sells as well, so it's good for her as well. That makes sense why they made like an anime with that concept.
Starting point is 01:10:07 Yeah. Yeah. Oh. The, the, the, the anime was literally just focused around this beer girl. And I was just like, what the fuck is this? What is this concept? They already idols. Like, they are idols.
Starting point is 01:10:18 They act and talk like idols. Yeah. So, like, when you're like, damn. Kha-Kai with the fucking... Damn, Kai was just like, I got the receipts. Like, do you mean my favorite anime? I didn't even remember the name, yeah, it's catch me at the ballpark.
Starting point is 01:10:34 And it's just, yeah, it's just a cute beer girl who serves beers. And she's a gaudu? And she's a gaudu. Why am I don't watch this? That's it. That's the show. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:45 That is the entire show. Oh my God, it's Fyroo's eye. Yeah, yeah. Oh my God, of course it is. That's so far I mean it looks like Fires to you honest Yeah Yeah and yeah
Starting point is 01:10:56 That's the show And people I was like Because I watched the first episode I was like Who is this appealing to And now that you guys said this I was like
Starting point is 01:11:03 Oh okay Baseball boys Did they have this in America You know Is this what they're missing out In America No they're the hot dogs guy Yeah
Starting point is 01:11:10 They occasionally have Every state of them It's different things When I went to New York I had Uber Eats At my seat So I could scan my seat And like
Starting point is 01:11:20 That's a crazy But it shut down halfway through. I don't know why. I guess they only do it for like the start or something. Sorry, because I wanted that Uber. That's fucking crazy. Yeah, yeah. And it costs the same as going up.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Yeah, yeah. And it was really weird because I scanned it in Uber Eats and it came up with like my seat number and everything. It was so bizarre. Holy shit. So could you order like anything off Uber Eats or just stuff off the stadium? You could, from the stadium. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:11:45 So you'd order Uber Eats, the stadium stuff and someone would come. But it wasn't for every seat. I think because I was in like the premium seating section I had. Yeah. Because I was like near the front. So I think that's why I had it. I was gonna say if you could order a fucking dominoes to your... No, to your seat, I'd be like crazy.
Starting point is 01:11:58 But the food they have now at sporting events, I've noticed this like globally has gotten like way better. Really? Like everywhere in the world. I've been following this Twitter account that does like a British football. Oh no, like one of the best... They've got crazy. One of the best stadiums is Tottenham Stadium. Yeah, they've got...
Starting point is 01:12:17 Yeah, that's the one that care out today. They're Katsuberger. What? They were joking like, wow. getting ready for the championship prices. Yeah. Too bad they're about to get relegated. Oh, damn.
Starting point is 01:12:26 That's crazy. How long have they been in the primary league for? Like forever, right? Too long, too long. Yes. Yeah, but no, but they invested so much. Five pound 50 for that boy. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:12:38 Look at that boy. That's a boy. They're already getting used to the championship prices. Yeah. They've got to get a price cuts from somewhere. But no, they have like one of the best stadiums in the world, because it's one of the most recent stadiums, they, They just pumped a lot of fuck ton of money into it.
Starting point is 01:12:56 It's like you can just charge a lot of money if the food's good. Yeah, yeah. People are pretty happy to buy it. Yeah, I mean, you've got, you've been to some sporting events where the food is terrible. Oh my God, horrific. Yeah. Because they're going to scam you on the beers anyway. So at least give me, like, decent food.
Starting point is 01:13:12 Yeah. And then I don't feel as mad. What did you think about the food at the League of Legend World events? The Korean Stadium food is, oh, it was bad. I thought it was bad. Really, yeah. Really bad. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:13:23 Everything was sweet. Ah. Yeah. The hot punch was sweet. Oh, everything was sweet. The fucking potatoes was sweet. Yeah, the French fries. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:31 They put sugar on top instead of salt. I don't know. Why? And then the only thing I thought they did good was the beer. I like the idea. They give you a two liter bottle of beer when you order it. Right. And it comes in like a plastic bottle.
Starting point is 01:13:44 Oh, shit. So basically what you do is, is like, two of you grab like beers and then someone holds the cups, plastic cups. Then you go to the shoe, you just like pour, each other. Oh, yeah. I guess that makes sense, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:53 It was great. I was like, this is awesome. Because we could order like, basically like two beers each. Yeah. And just we could, you know,
Starting point is 01:13:59 only one person needs to go up and get it. Right, right. And we could all just chill and it was great. And, you know, there was never that case of like, I've drank my beer already. Garns fit a bit of a slow boy.
Starting point is 01:14:10 I guess, like, I'm like, just pull me the rest. Yeah, yeah. It was really good. But the food was bad.
Starting point is 01:14:15 Yeah. I remember the food being bad for that. You'd think Korea would crush it. Yeah. I had high hopes of Korea and the prices were low but yeah no but the food was but Japan I've only been to major jingu and that was pretty good I recommend the York Alma Stadium that is dope and also not as expensive as hard to get tickets there for baseball in Japan it is yeah I only managed to get in because my friend managed to get some tickets
Starting point is 01:14:38 and he was like ah all my friends who were supposed to go with me cancel on me so do you want to call and I was like okay fuck it yeah it was nice and it was sick I went to the Nintendo Museum oh in Kyoto character. Yeah. How was it? Yeah, cool. It was not what I was expecting. I thought it was going to be like a museum, but I'd say it was more of like a collection. Yeah, I'd say so. I mean, you're talking about like the second floor, right? With all the calls and shit. Which is the main museum area. Yeah, it's the main museum area. I actually really enjoyed it because it wasn't like a museum, if that makes sense. I kind of wanted to know more about like some of the stuff though.
Starting point is 01:15:12 And they don't tell you anything. So basically like the way it's laid out as you, you go in and it kind of looks like a normal office building. Well, it used to be the main office. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's, it's not too far from Kyoto Station. It's like one train. Yeah. From Kyoto Station. Actually, it used to be the factory that they used to make the Hanafida cards out of before they stopped making that. Yeah. Yeah, over like, God knows how long ago.
Starting point is 01:15:34 Yeah, like a lot, like 40, 50 years ago. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, you go there and, yeah, it was cool because you could make like Hanafuda cards. Yeah. Which, you know, you could like reserve a spot to make it. Yeah. It was like 2000. It was kind of fun. I did it. And I was like, oh,
Starting point is 01:15:49 that's pretty cool. The downstairs area where you can play, like the giant versions of all the consoles and shit. So I got, so I got invited to go. Yeah. So I went there and then they put this thing on my Nintendo account. And I was like,
Starting point is 01:16:01 oh, okay. So I had it my Nintendo account. And then I had to scan it all in, which I was like, I didn't realize I needed to have a Nintendo account. Right. So I then get this little card. And on this card is like your ID for the day to go around.
Starting point is 01:16:13 Like you have to constantly tap it. Oh, okay. That's cool. Yeah. Yeah. And so you get like a little thing and you can put your me on it if you want.
Starting point is 01:16:20 I've got my me on it. I don't have my me. Yeah. And what's I'm going to say? So you go and you get 10 coins. Yeah. And there's a level for the museum which you can walk around,
Starting point is 01:16:32 take your time, do whatever you want. And there's a level for like attractions. Right. And the attractions are just like the big controller games like you mentioned. Yeah, yeah. There's like... Like classic consoles that you can like play around with and stuff.
Starting point is 01:16:43 You get to play like, you can play SNES, 1064. SNS, we or we, and that's it. And they're big. Yeah. And they're like massive. Like, they missed out the GameCube.
Starting point is 01:16:54 There was no GameCube. Really? I'm pretty sure there's no GameCube. I only remember we didn't have, because we spent so much time on the second floor, just like looking at the museum that we didn't have a lot of time to go down and play any of the consoles. The only one we played was the N64 one with the giant, like the N64 controller was the size of this table. So like one person needs to be on the JoyCon and then the other person needs to like slam the A&B buttons.
Starting point is 01:17:18 It's kind of more for photos because you wanna get like two minutes because everyone's waiting for you. What are you even playing on it? Mario 64. Like Mario 64? It was like three levels of Mario 64 and 10 minutes.
Starting point is 01:17:28 And I was like with, I was like to argue. I was like, we're fucking beating this. We have three minutes. We got three minutes? I almost beat it as well. Yeah, they give you like,
Starting point is 01:17:35 you just pick a level or the S&ES was like Super Mario. Yeah. The NES was like, you do Dr. Mario or Smash Brothers. Yeah. So you can, as you can choose.
Starting point is 01:17:45 And the Wii one was like, a big Wii remote that you just balance. Oh, it's kind of goofy. And then there was like a basically like a little baseball thing because Nintendo used to make like a baseball hitting game. And then there was like a claw, you know, because Nintendo used to make the like extend arm claw. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:02 And then there's a big room. And this is like the most expensive one. Whereas like you line up. There's a giant like wall that goes across and there's like 14 booths. And each one has a light gum. Oh, yeah. That was fun.
Starting point is 01:18:16 You compete against everyone else in line with you. Yeah. And then it gives you a trophy at the end. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It'll pop up with like who came first, second, third. Yeah, that was fun. So I locked in naturally. Absolutely fucking crushed everyone.
Starting point is 01:18:28 Oh, really? And I got the gold thing. And then everyone claps. And it's really awkward because I was actually trying so hard to win. And there was like five kids. Yeah, there's like all these kids just like, yeah. I'm literally like, you're sweating. Like, I'm like the kid next to me, I was stealing all his shit.
Starting point is 01:18:43 Yeah, he was having the miserable time. Because I would shoot all my things, because you'd have like kind of stuff in your area. But you could easily shoot other people's stuff. So I'd finish all my shit. Yeah. And he's like, he's like, you know, sucking his thumb. Like, mom help.
Starting point is 01:18:55 And I'm like, brr-that kid is never playing PVP ever again. He's like traumatized him, bro. You're like, welcome to rank. Hey, he has to learn, bro. He has to learn now. Life is not bad. There are no freebies. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:09 Some sweaty guy from Wales will show up. God. Do you guys miss the old school like gaming peripherals that you used to get some times. Yeah, that was one of the really cool things in the museum is that every single console, they did have like every weird peripheral in the collection so you could see them.
Starting point is 01:19:25 I remember, I think the coolest thing that my cousin, that, you know, the coolest peripheral I knew anyone owned was the, did you have, did you ever see the SNES bazooka? Yeah, they had that. Oh, so the, the, um... The gun was the superscope.
Starting point is 01:19:39 So, yeah, in the gun. Yeah. God, my cousin owned this shit, and it is still to the, it was the coolest thing when I was five years old, it is still the coolest thing. It's all time. Well, you'd be happy to know, because that, that game,
Starting point is 01:19:51 you basically choose the pistol at duck on or that. Oh, no. No, no, he had, my cousin had the pistol and that. You chose that one every single fucking time? I chose the pistol. You chose the pistol? Because the Super scope was slower. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:04 A pistol, you could be like, br-r-uh, I chose the pistol. I was like, the moment I saw the Superscope, I was like, give me that. It is cool, though. It's so sick. Yeah, they had it. They had it that.
Starting point is 01:20:14 Oh, God. That was so fucking. I personally was just hoping in the museum aspect to learn a bit more about, you know, maybe why some games came to be or who were the founding people around certain things what they did. But I get it, it's a corporation.
Starting point is 01:20:27 They kind of don't want to. So how about the Sony deal that you almost did? Wait, what? Oh, yeah, yeah. Do you not know that how the PlayStation came to be? No. Yeah, Nintendo nearly bought them out, right? No, no, right.
Starting point is 01:20:41 They're in a response. No, Nintendo were working in conjunction with Sony. to develop a game console for CD-ROMs. And then they're like, nah, we're not going to do that. And so Sony were pissed, so they were like, out of spite, they were like, okay, we're going to make, how about we just make our own console and call it the PlayStation? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:00 I did not know that. Top 10 biggest fumbles in the gaming industry. That's the kind of stuff that, like, is really interesting. Yeah, like that kind of lore and stuff. But obviously, maybe maybe, maybe, like, tell us a little bit about the guy, You know, because I know that there's like a lot of like really cool history with some significant Nintendo people. I mean, it was pretty cool to see like a bunch of like the old, like some of the consoles I remember that had like the really old prototypes that were on display. Which was super cool to see because like the I think it was the N64.
Starting point is 01:21:31 The prototype for the N64 looks nothing like the current N64 that everyone knows. Like it looks like a completely different console. So like seeing that kind of stuff was like really, really cool. Oh, they pretty wouldn't have it because there's like no pictures allowed. but you can have a look. Yeah, that's not what it looked like. No, that's not what it looked like. There was like 10 people at the museum
Starting point is 01:21:48 that were like, if you take a photo, we will kill you. Super scopes on the radio. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think, but obviously it's understandable that maybe a corporation might not want to be like, hey, people did this. Yeah, yeah, no, no. Nintendo did it.
Starting point is 01:22:04 It's like, okay, okay, okay. They're all part of the Nintendo family. Exactly. And it wasn't busy at all. It was like really, like, quiet. when I was there. Yeah. I mean, it was really busy
Starting point is 01:22:16 when I went because it was maybe like two weeks after they opened. But apparently it's still impossible to get tickets. Yeah, because I think they limit the tickets like greatly.
Starting point is 01:22:23 Yeah, when I'm in there, it was like super chill, really easy to walk around. Yeah. Did not ever feel like there was too many people at all. Did you find all the pickmen?
Starting point is 01:22:33 No, I didn't. There were hidden pickmen all over the museum that you had to find. And apparently if you found all of them and you presented it to one of the stuff, you get something.
Starting point is 01:22:41 Oh, no, I didn't. I didn't know that. shit, that's a fun thing. They're an exclusive Pokemon manhole there as well. They did. They did. Oh, we saw another Pokemon manhole.
Starting point is 01:22:50 We saw the Grailith. Yeah. Oh, nice. Yeah. Hell yeah. But yeah, it was good. Yeah. I mean, if you like Nintendo,
Starting point is 01:22:56 you'll love it. Yeah. Definitely wouldn't go. I think I wouldn't go to Kyoto for it. But if I was in Kyoto, I would do it. Yeah. If you're in Kyoto, it's definitely good to go.
Starting point is 01:23:05 If you can get to. How far is it away from like the city center and stuff? Oh, super close. Like 10, 15 minutes. You're like a 20 minute train, I think. And then it's like a five minute walk. And then you get to a train station where there is fuck all. There's nothing.
Starting point is 01:23:16 There is nothing. There is nothing. It's weird because like 20 minutes from Tokyo Center, you'd still be at a lot of things. Yeah. But Kyoto kind of like really is. I've got to small. Well, that's just how much of a megacity, Tokyo is, you know. Yeah, it's ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:23:30 What is even the center of Tokyo, you know? Shihuku. What would you say is the center of Tokyo? Like the geographical center. No. No, no, like the center of Tokyo. The center of Tokyo? This is their fault for not making a town square, by the way.
Starting point is 01:23:48 Yeah. Europe, they figured out. Imperial Palace, right? Yeah, I would have said Tokyo Station. Yeah, Tokyo Station, right. No. I mean, it's in the fucking name. I get it, but no.
Starting point is 01:24:00 Okay, if you had to put a town center nowadays, where would you put it? Like a town square. Tokyo. You put in Tokyo Station? I mean, it makes the most sense, name-wise. I mean, again. And the imperial palace is there. It's kind of boring.
Starting point is 01:24:12 No, I mean, look, I don't like Tokyo Station at all, but you know, the Imperial Palace is there, the building itself is very historical. I mean, it's got the name to Tokyo. Look, I know you're right and I'm annoyed. Yeah. Because I just think that Shinjuku's cooler. Shinjuku is definitely cooler,
Starting point is 01:24:27 but the station is bigger as well. Well, I'm not as bad, I hate I Kibukuro. That's the worst one. Really? I don't know compared to Shinjuku. I hate getting around Ikebukukkah. No, Shinjuku is the worst. You are that bad.
Starting point is 01:24:38 It takes 10 minutes to get out of any exit. Depends what the train you came on. Doesn't matter which train you came on. Yeah, I used to live there and if someone was like, me and me and Chinjuga station, I'm like, no. Yeah. It's not mean you're in the station. Are you dumb?
Starting point is 01:24:51 We're never gonna find each other. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it depends. If you get on like some lines, you're in like a fucking hell. I just avoid Shinjuku at all costs nowadays. Especially nowadays. Yeah. Way to me, people.
Starting point is 01:25:03 I mean, you don't even live in the Shinjuku, so. Yeah, exactly. Any excuse not to go to the station, but it's area- to go through there. Area-wise, it's much. cooler than Tokyo area. I try and find any way to avoid it. All roads lead to Shinjuku in Tokyo.
Starting point is 01:25:17 Yeah, but there's also other parts as well. Like, do you want to get, do you want to go like 10 minutes north? Go into Shinjuku and go back out? Yeah, exactly. I've got to uninstall installs the latest buyer. Why? What do you got on install? I got 400 hours.
Starting point is 01:25:32 You're 400 hours? I don't know. I should have a lot. Let me see how many hours I have. You got 400. Is that what you do before bed? Yeah, yeah. Most days I play like a run before bed.
Starting point is 01:25:48 Oh, same here. Sometimes, though, you don't get a run started. Yeah. And that's dangerous because you're like, I've reset five times. And I'm still playing. Wait, when does it say this is probably two come out? It came out like, well. March 5th.
Starting point is 01:26:03 March 5th. Okay, so we're two months in. I have, how many hours do I have in this game? Let's have a look. inventory? Where do you find out on the Steam app? Yeah, playing it on Patreon was a mistake. It was not a mistake. No, I was saying earlier while you're at the toilet, I was like, I tried, I played a little bit after we did the Patreon stuff, and I'm just like, I need to play this in co-op again.
Starting point is 01:26:25 You really? Like, co-op is just so much more fun. Co-op is fun. And I really want to get Arki into it so we can play co-op, but she's, she has 450 hours in Porcupia. Oh my God. That's not good. I think she's just trying to beat her Animal Crossing record. Is this a soy?
Starting point is 01:26:40 That's yours. She had 600 hours in Animal Crossing. So I think she's just trying to beat that. Let me honest. That can't be right. That's not. Yeah. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 01:26:52 Navi for the Oats Milk. I think so. Mine's saying 91 hours played. I don't think that's right. I think it's more. Do you know what I made me realize? I was just like, it made me realize, you know,
Starting point is 01:27:08 some games like that don't track hours, like league or something, you're just like just in this gameplay loop. I'm just like I somehow just playing a few runs. You're like I trying to get my just self down to a single run and play the spot or two before I go to bed, you know. And I've somehow racked up like 50 hours within like somehow, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:27:29 I don't even think I've played that much. It happens. But I do. Yeah. When you're locking, you just lose all sense of time. I fucking hate that shit, man. I can't get anything worthwhile done in my life. We played it on Patreon.
Starting point is 01:27:44 So if you want to watch that, you can go. Yeah, yeah. All the episodes should be up by then. We have one. How many runs? One, one for one or two runs? We did two runs. Two runs.
Starting point is 01:27:53 Two runs. Brother. Also, also, also, there's a moment in the cyclathon. I think you, like, lost over it. But, uh, so, I made a donation in the cyclophon because... You did? Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:28:10 You literally read out. my name. And, and I, so in case you didn't know, in case you didn't know. Okay. Oh,
Starting point is 01:28:18 God. What did I do? In our Slay the Spy Patreon run through. Yep. Oh, yeah. You did. I do remember this now.
Starting point is 01:28:24 Okay. And in our Slater Spy Patreon run through, we made like a bet to be like, okay, if we don't make it pass a certain acts,
Starting point is 01:28:33 we're going to donate to Connoissecathon. Yes. And... Well, no, I think at the time we just said some charity. I think we did.
Starting point is 01:28:40 I think we did say Connoffat. Did we say cyclophon? psych-a-thon. Because we, yeah. Pedantics, anyway. Anyway. Yeah, because we were like, we were like, you know, we're probably not going to make it because me and Joe were just like, we don't know what the fuck we're doing. Turns out we did actually make-
Starting point is 01:28:54 We beat it. We beat it. We beat the entire thing. All three acts and we were like, oh, so we don't need to donate to charity. Ooh, this, you know, you know, I remember we were like, fuck charity. Kind of left me with a bittersweet taste in my mouth. Fair enough. So I was like, I'm gonna do a, I'm gonna do a thing.
Starting point is 01:29:18 I'm gonna donate to a Ranskeran psychathon. The amounts that we were going to donate if we lost. Yeah, yeah. And Connor read it and he was like, I have no idea what the Slater Spire charity thing we were talking about. He just like lost over it. He was like, I'm covering for myself, I'm covering for Joey. I thought Connor would be like, oh shit, I remember. I don't remember that.
Starting point is 01:29:41 Did you use the trash taste card? I didn't use the trash taste card. I used my card, Connor. Yeah, dude. I wouldn't have been mad. I wouldn't have been mad. I wouldn't have been mad. Yeah, I do remember.
Starting point is 01:29:55 Yeah, it was a large donation too. Thank you, John. It was how much we were promised to. Yeah. It was how much we promised to pay. So go and watch us be satisfied on Patreon. But yeah, now that you've got a dip in it. So who's your favorite then?
Starting point is 01:30:09 Probably regents. Regent is my favorites, but I don't, I don't know. I'm trying to get off it. Why? Why? I don't know. You're not done. You've even completed it.
Starting point is 01:30:19 Well, how do you complete it? Obscension 10, all characters. I just, something about not being, I hate the feeling of not being able to control my addictions. I'm going to call it that. You know, I have, in my life, I have a certain amount of work that I would like to get done every day. But when I have a game like Slay the Spy in my life, I'm just like, okay, but I'll just do a single run through, a single game. Two hours disappears. And I'm like, this is awful.
Starting point is 01:30:49 This is awful for my life. It's the line of Coke on the side of the table. It is. Like, just one more. There's nothing more dangerous than not knowing how much time passes playing a video game like this. That doesn't end. You can always do one more run through. You can always try one more thing.
Starting point is 01:31:06 You know, when I play like a JRP or something, you're like, okay, that was a good five hours, you know, 10 hours of progress or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you know there's an end to it. There's an ending to it. You know, there's an ending, you know, with Slater Spire, it's like, you can keep going forever. Yeah, of course. Why would you want it to end? It's P.
Starting point is 01:31:25 It is. It is. It's a great game. And then you get like those interactions that are really cool in the game. Like, I don't know if you've gotten the clone mechanic. Oh, yeah, I've gotten the clone mechanic. The clock is so fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:36 When you get it on a card that's like perfect for it, and you're like, oh my God. And you get like a thousand of these cards. Oh, shit. And you can just like, because they're like, maybe it's like a zero cost card. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, right, right. So fun.
Starting point is 01:31:48 Yeah. You saw, you saw Project Hill Mary as well. I did. Yeah. I watched it as well. How is it? Oh, it's so good. Is it?
Starting point is 01:31:56 Well, we're kind of late to the talking about it. But it is amazing. Yeah. Yeah. I really, really enjoyed it. And I didn't really know what I was going into. Same here. I thought it was great. Yeah. Best way to describe it, it feels like it feels like it's a Tom Hanks film if it would have come out like 20 years ago.
Starting point is 01:32:18 Okay. It's like the feel good. It's like the hopeful and I remember watching it. Like after I came out of the cinema, I was like, damn, how long has it been since I've seen like a hopeful movie? You know? I'm just like, damn, is hope just dead in 2026? It's, it's, yeah, can go. Yes, action. You know. But, like, that's this, this is the time
Starting point is 01:32:38 where we need films like this the most. Everything's so, like, you know, it's so, like, dark and gritty and just. Well, I don't know, Gant, but, uh, the new Mario movie just came out, and that fills me with a lot. Okay, that feels me. I'm going to go watch it this weekend, but I, but me and my friends are going to go, we're just going to get really fucking drunk beforehand.
Starting point is 01:32:57 Because that's one of those movies, you know? Like, you can't watch that, a movie like that in your 30s and be like, yes, let me try to disson. what Mario gets up to this time. You're a Nintendo adult, bro. I'm just like, I know what kind of slop I'm about to get into, so might as well embrace it and just go in sloppy, you know? They've already made a billion dollars.
Starting point is 01:33:15 Yeah, it's insane. Oh my God. Yeah, we're never gonna, we're gonna have a superman movie ever go down yet. We're gonna have, dude, we're gonna complete the fucking Super Smash Bros. Cinematic Universe. And, uh, yeah, I think Zelda movies coming out. Zelda movies coming out. They've hinted at like a Star Fox movie as well.
Starting point is 01:33:29 Oh yeah, they like randomly, and they spoiled that before the movie came out. That was weird that way they did that. Yeah. Are you guys gonna watch the Michael movie? Which one's that? Michael Jackson. Who, who'd you think? Oh, that Michael.
Starting point is 01:33:41 How many Michael? I was thinking Jordan. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Could be, could be, could be. There's lots of Michaels. I just, I just, I, no. Well, I will. I kind of want to.
Starting point is 01:33:53 But I've also seen way too many memes about it. You know, where it's like, what are the memes about it? Oh, just, I've seen a bunch of like clips of people like cosplaying as Michael Jackson. And as the movie is on, like, they fucking run to the front of the cinemas and just start dancing. And people are just like, this course. And just like, I'll rather see this.
Starting point is 01:34:12 I don't know how the film is. Yeah, me neither. And correct me if I'm wrong. Maybe you know, I don't know. I haven't seen it, but... I don't think it, like, covers his entire life. That's what I've heard about the movie. Right.
Starting point is 01:34:26 It covers up to... Which era are we talking? Uh, it covers up to a certain point. in his life from what I've heard before any interesting or maybe controversial things could be explored. Like, is this the pre-diddle accusation or post-diddle accusation? Okay, let's put this in perspective.
Starting point is 01:34:52 You know, let's say you wanna do a biopic on someone. Yeah. Let's say his name is like Adolf, you know. Let's just say that. Crazy. And you're like, okay, this really interesting person, interesting character. Let's, he had a really interesting, like, painting arc, you know? And then you like, you're like, okay, what could possibly happen after that?
Starting point is 01:35:16 Oh, who knows? Let's just stop after that. That's a really interesting character art. Oh, okay. Okay. Here's what I don't understand, right? Okay, because they had, they, like, had to get permission from the family. Yes.
Starting point is 01:35:30 to make this film. Yes. Which... I would hope so. Okay. Yeah, but, but, but, like, there was a Trump movie that came out. And that movie was, you know, it was pretty scathing of Trump. I watched it.
Starting point is 01:35:43 It was really good. Sebastian Stan was phenomenal. Okay. And I was thinking when this came out, I was like, wait, why do they need permission of the family to make a movie about a public figure who was like the world's most famous man at one point? Like, I don't understand why... I guess that's just how powerful the estate is, right? I don't know. I mean, I guess maybe. Or maybe they were just afraid.
Starting point is 01:36:03 Trump famously is a pretty powerful man right now. Well, yeah. You know what I mean? Like, maybe because he's in the presidency. I don't know. But I was kind of confused about it. Maybe like there's some people who are really knowledgeable about this in the comments. Well, maybe it's like that whole idea of like, you know, because he's a deceased person, maybe it might be like something.
Starting point is 01:36:20 What? No, fuck that. We're being stories about deceased people all the time. No, I don't know. I'm just, I'm just spitballing. Because like there's, I think the best example of a movie about a musical artist is the, the, the, the, the, the, Cash film. Yes, with Joaquin Phoenix. That was fantastic. Which is a phenomenal film because it doesn't pull any punches. Yeah. It shows you the good and it shows you the bad and it humanizes
Starting point is 01:36:39 this person. Yes. And I think unfortunately, look, Michael Jackson, his music is phenomenal. Yeah, walk the line. And you can, you know, you can say separate the art and all the stuff. Cool. But look, we're making this movie about his life. Yeah. That's it. That's in his life. Also, this is the internet. I just want to go on record saying I'm not trying to compare Michael Jackson to I was just trying to make an analogy. No, no, we got it. We got it.
Starting point is 01:37:06 Don't worry. I know. I know you guys get it. I was just like, I was like, this is the internet. Yeah, true.
Starting point is 01:37:13 Yeah. Okay. This is a great movie. And shows like how Johnny Cash got like, you know, addicted to drugs and how that kind of ruined his life, you know. And I'm, I'm sure there isn't a very interesting story there with Michael Jackson
Starting point is 01:37:27 that maybe could have been told. I just don't think it's the weight of the allegations, quote unquote, perhaps. I mean, we've made stories about a lot worse people have done a lot worse. That's true. I guess they're just being super protective of him and probably his legacy and estate and everything like that. You can tell the story of him as a musical artist, but I think to say it's a biopic is like, I don't know. Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm a big Michael Jackson fan. I grew up.
Starting point is 01:37:57 Yeah, who is it? Yeah, I know. I know, right? Who isn't, right? And I've heard that it is just a glorified concert movie, which I hear that, and I'm like, you know what? I could, I could watch it and enjoy it. It's fucking Michael Jackson. I feel like so much of this discussion is that, like,
Starting point is 01:38:16 he looks and sounds like Michael Jackson. And it's like, I'm, maybe I'm crazy. I don't need the actor to look and sound like them. Like, I'm able to. I'm fully aware that this is an actor. I'm able to take myself out of this. I'd be like, okay, that is impressive that he looks and sounds like him. That's cool.
Starting point is 01:38:31 But I actually just want to hear the story. Like, you know what I mean? Like any actor who could do a good job and just tell the story, I don't know. Like, yeah. I was played by his nephew. Yeah. Which is obviously another reason why, like, they probably wouldn't have gone down the high. So, uncle, Uncle Michael.
Starting point is 01:38:47 In this scene, did a couple of questionable things. Yeah. Allegedly. Allegedly. So we really want you to log in on this. Yeah. Like, no, of course. I mean, yeah. So I don't know.
Starting point is 01:38:57 I don't know, like, maybe, maybe there wasn't, like, and I'm saying, why couldn't they make a storytelling his life? Maybe that was never even, like, a desire for this actor and the family who wanted to make this movie as a fluff piece. A lot of fluff piece, but a celebratory piece. Yeah, I don't know if Michael Jackson's real life nephew was sat there and was like, I have to act what? Like, I don't think it would have been on board with that, you know. And I'm not saying, like, you know, we need a like, fucking, we need a court case to reanalyze everything. It's like, it's like, but these are just things that happened in his life. that you would want to cover.
Starting point is 01:39:30 That was very public as well. Yeah. Like there was public trials. It's all like really interesting stuff that I think would be cool to have a film about because also to analyze what does that do to a guy? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:43 I would an act to even tackle that. I'd love to see that performance of how you go from being top of the world this crazy artist who, aura to, you know, to going to the lowest of lows. Yeah. Like, that's an interesting story.
Starting point is 01:39:55 You guys even like biopics? Um, I mean... I like them, but I think a lot of them miss the mark in a lot of ways, maybe because they're like over-dramatizing it or over-glorifying a person's life. Well, when we used to give our picks, I felt like we used to get things of interesting people, uh, who had interesting stories. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:16 And they would cover the totality of it. Like the Johnny Cash one. Like, I mean, Johnny Cash is very famous, but he's not like, he wasn't like the biggest star ever. Yeah. So the fact that shows that story, because it was interesting, I think, tells something. Whereas lately all we've gotten is fluff pieces. You know, we had the Queen movie,
Starting point is 01:40:33 which didn't cover like any of the, you know, unfortunately, you know, Freddie Mercury, you know, the HIV aspect of his life, which is like a huge fucking part of his life. Yeah. And a huge part of him as a person. Yeah. I mean, it was touched upon slightly in Bohemia Rhapsody,
Starting point is 01:40:48 but definitely not enough to make it an interesting point of the movie. Yeah. I feel like a lot of biopics nowadays. It's just like, let's just take the famous people, whether they have like an interest. Did you watch the Bob Dylan one? I watched the Bob Dylan. That was crap.
Starting point is 01:41:02 It's just, uh, just, I, this is someone. That movie did not have to be two and a half hours. It was, yeah, it did not. I'm like, I love Bob Dylan, but like, fuck me, me. I wasn't even that big of a fan of Bob Dylan. But like this also, this also. That was the most random watch all last year for you. I couldn't believe you watched that way.
Starting point is 01:41:17 But what I, what doesn't make sense with the Bob Dylan one, the one with Timothy Shalameen in it, is that like, we've already had a Bob Dylan biopic, which was infinitely better because it was actually interesting because they covered more interesting aspects of his life whereas this new one is just like
Starting point is 01:41:32 look how great Bob Dylan is guys it's like yeah okay we know it's fucking Bob Dylan everyone knows how great he was you know so it just felt like a fluff piece or lately a lot of them are fluff pieces yeah because like you know before you'd have like you know
Starting point is 01:41:45 the King's Speech for example yeah great movie or you know the Alan Turing one is really good with Benedict The imitation game That's a great movie. Social Network, I thought, was a fantastic movie as well. Just because, like, all these had, like, you know, interesting characters and interesting stories in them.
Starting point is 01:42:05 And now a lot of, like, modern biopics is just more of, like, you know, with Michael. Even though I'm a big Michael Jackson fan, it just, from what I've read and what I've seen, it feels like a celebratory piece. Yeah. It's just like, you know, that's kind of the fluff where it's just, like, very safe, very... low risk in terms of like what is portraying. For sure. People are going in for a good time. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:31 I put it as the same as like the Marion movie, you know. Oh, damn. Basically. Yeah. And it's been rated so highly by audiences. But it's like, what the fuck do you think is watching this? Fucking Michael Jackson fans. Yeah, obviously.
Starting point is 01:42:44 You only want to like hear about how he's the go. Which, yes, in many aspects he was. But his life is also so interesting. We should cover it. Yeah. When you mentioned the imitation game, right? to me that movie like the gut punch of like them showing him near the end of the film yeah it was like brutal yeah yeah and like yeah i'd love to sit there and be like whoa go go UK
Starting point is 01:43:06 yeah look at we're so smart look what we did and then it like got punched you with yeah we fucking we killed this guy we tortured him yeah just because he was gay yeah like it's fucked up man and it gets you angry uh and that that was like something that was important to allan turing's life. Yeah. So it was, it was, it would have been very disingenuous to not bring that up. Yeah. And I feel like that's kind of what's happening. I agree. With some of these, uh, fuck people. Yeah. I think one of my favorite modern, I don't even know if it's like a biopic, but it's a pseudo documentary. I don't even know what the name of this. Have you guys seen the big short? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I fucking love that. That's a great movie. So much. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:42 And, uh, yeah, it basically follows, what would you categorize a big short as? A dramatization? Comedy thriller. But it basically follows the real-life stories of a bunch of people who realized the impending 2008 financial crisis was going to happen, basically. And it's a look into how broken
Starting point is 01:44:07 and how corrupt the banking system was prior to the crash and how these people saw that this crash was happening, was able to take advantage of that situation. But still, it ends on such a fucking depressing and somber notes. Yeah. Where it's like, hey, everyone who ruined the economy and ruined the lives of like millions and millions of people, hey, no one got any repercussions for any of this shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:34 And the world just kind of sucks and the system is broken and things have not changed. I remember vividly that, though, like, it's like one of the last couple of scenes where like Steve Carell's character is like sitting up like at the top of one. Wall Street and he's just, when he finds out that he just made a billion dollars. Yeah. And he's just sitting there and he's just like, a billion dollars, huh? Damn. Because he just knows that like, yes, he has made all this money, but he knows that everybody else on like the ground floor is just completely fucked. Yeah. And he just feels that guilt, right? Yeah. Yeah. I love that scene where Ryan Gosling is like, you know what's special about him? He's Asian. He can do math. Yeah, I love.
Starting point is 01:45:16 And he's like, he can't even speak English. And then the guy's like, I can't speak English. Yes. It's just so fucking unnecessary. Yeah. So, like, stupid. Like, okay, sure. It's a good film.
Starting point is 01:45:30 That's a great film. This is a really fucking good film. Christian Bell's amazing in that as well. Yeah, Christian. Oh, yeah, Christian Bell's in this as well. He's the main guy. Yeah. But he's like kind of,
Starting point is 01:45:39 stupid Craigel, I feel like, is the really stand out in that movie. Yeah. I feel like, yeah, out of all of these, Steve Querell is one of the main ones. Yeah. I really like Ryan Gosling's character as well. Oh, no. Just like such a fucking douchebag, like, it's just so open about it. But yeah, this, like, this was like such a fantastic film.
Starting point is 01:46:01 So you're not going to watch Michael? I probably am. No, I pretty, I pretty will just so I can fully cement my thoughts on it. Right. Yeah. But, you know, when I think of biopics, I, I, I, I, I, would love more films like this, you know, like, you know, that actual tackle interesting people
Starting point is 01:46:19 where, or actually showcase the interesting conflict. And maybe, maybe not just necessarily focusing on one person, right? When does it become a, this is not more of a biofair, I guess it was based on true events. Okay, do you count the Wolf of Wall Street as a biopic? Like, catch me as you can? No. No.
Starting point is 01:46:34 It's just based, it's just based off a true story, right? I would say like that's a aspect, like a story part of someone's life they're covering. Right. as a, that it's just like a real story. Yeah. As opposed to it being like a biopic, which is following the entire life. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:46:49 That's what I would think of biopic. I wouldn't say this is biopic as much. Okay. Yeah, biopic for me is usually just like, yeah, following the life of one person from start to finish, how it was, right? Or at least as close to what it was in real life. But I like, I like these dramatized real stories. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:05 Yeah. Real world, again, I've always said this is like the shit that you, that happens in real world, if we wrote it, we'd say it's unrealistic and stupid. Yeah. And that it just happens. Reality is stranger than fiction. If you're okay with,
Starting point is 01:47:16 you know, because some people are like, this is exactly how it happened. These characters are exactly how the real people are. It's like, no. No. Because the Christian Bell character is still like an active,
Starting point is 01:47:25 well, actually he'd just close down his firm not too long ago. But it was pretty like a vocal, still quite a was, or I just think still is, an opinionated, like, analysis. Although I think last year or the year before,
Starting point is 01:47:38 he said he's done trading because the market doesn't make sense anymore. Right. That's scary. Take with that with what you will. Yeah. So, like, it's interesting because you can, that's a guy who you can literally just see and, like, see the, like, how different the performances to the real person.
Starting point is 01:47:56 And then so you just, you know, if you can watch this and be like, the gist of it is the story, enjoy it, but don't actually think these are real. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's fun. Exactly. You know, it has been dramatized. Yeah, yeah, yeah. At the end of the day.
Starting point is 01:48:08 There's a lot of Unfortunately, I haven't watched many good films like that I haven't been to the theatre much So I haven't watched, you know I told you last time I'm Mardi Supreme But probably probably the best movie I've watched in a long time. Okay.
Starting point is 01:48:20 I really, really enjoyed it. I definitely do want to watch that, actually. It's a bit long. It doesn't feel long. It doesn't feel long. The only Chris is my I could say is like maybe the last part feels a little bit rushed but.
Starting point is 01:48:32 Does it? Yeah, I think so. For as long as it is? Well, because like the start is quite slow and then it like feels fast towards the end right right me personally at least I mean I I thought it wrapped up perfectly
Starting point is 01:48:45 I'm dumb stupid I'm gonna watch the Michael movie I'll redeem myself with the Michael movie I don't know I watch the Mario movie yeah I'm watching the Mario movie you'll get that review next week yeah let me know I might be so drunk I won't remember it but
Starting point is 01:49:02 I watch I just watch absolute slop sometimes because I'll go to the gym and I, when I go to the gym, I just watched Netflix documentaries. Yeah. Because it's documentaries that are so easy to watch on the side and while I'm working out.
Starting point is 01:49:14 Yeah. And I watched, I watched, the America's next top model. Wasn't good? Does that need a documentary? It's kind of, it's kind of like crazy
Starting point is 01:49:27 how fucked 2000s television was. And I kind of forgot how bad it was. Oh, yeah, dude. Because they like, there's I might actually my I had to stop running at one point because my jaw was on the ground
Starting point is 01:49:41 of what I just watched I don't remember this right there was like on the second season of America and America's next top model one of the contestants like a woman they're like set up this thing
Starting point is 01:49:51 where they're like in a room with like these hot Italian men and the woman is like yeah he he took advantage of me while I was drunk and they filmed the whole thing and then they filmed
Starting point is 01:50:01 her calling like her boyfriend right like back in America they're filming all this she's having like a breakdown it's all real and then they're filming her like calling him up the the guy that like kind of took advantage of her while she was drunk and he's like hey did you wear a condom did you have any STDs and then they like wouldn't let her like go home she's like hey can I can I leave like no it'd be difficult if you did that's and like wow the shit is like and this poor girl got like gaslit for it like they're Everyone, like, blamed her, and they were like, wow, you cheated.
Starting point is 01:50:36 You shouldn't have cheated. And it's like, dude, like, the producers fucking set her up to be taken advantage of and then fucking filmed it all. And apparently the version that aired, which is pretty bad, was a much-scaled back version because right as they were about to air it, it was like when the Super Bowl thing happened were just, like, ripping off. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The clothes.
Starting point is 01:50:58 And so apparently that made them re-edit the whole thing. And that was the conservative version that they had. That's so fucked. Yeah, and they were doing shit like, like the chat, today's challenge, ladies is race swapping. I'm not even kidding.
Starting point is 01:51:14 And then they would like, they'd make like, they'd be like, there's like a black gun, they'd be like, today you're gonna be Korean. And then I was like, that's so bad.
Starting point is 01:51:22 Eat this bowl of kimchi. And then they would be like, to go with the photo shoot, we've brought you an Asian kid. I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. This is real. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:51:33 And I was like, I don't. remember seeing any of this. Yeah. What the fuck was going on in 2000? I'm so glad I didn't watch the series. Yeah, I didn't watch that series. But like 2000 television was like,
Starting point is 01:51:42 fucked. Yeah. I made me realize I was like, thank God I was not a woman in the 2000s because my God, the shit they did to women on TV in the 2000s is absolutely fucking criminal. Gross. It was surprisingly interesting.
Starting point is 01:51:55 The wildest clip I've seen, I don't even know the context of this, but I don't know if you guys have seen this clip. It got like spread around on like Twitter or some other social media side. It's from a Spanish reality TV show. Okay. I can only describe what I seen because I understood zero of what was being said. Sure. But from what I garnered, there's this guy on the beach and his girlfriend, I assume, is in this house, which I assume to be some kind of like Love Island kind of house or something. Oh, I did see this. You did see this? That's bad.
Starting point is 01:52:30 And so the producers are showing this guy. and he can see on the screen his girlfriend kind of like flirting with another guy. Okay. And so what happens is they are about to have sex. And so he's like, no, no. And so he starts fucking bolting it down, trying to like run to the house as the girl
Starting point is 01:52:57 is actually just having full on sex on TV while this guy is like running. I'm just like, what the fuck is going on and like Spanish television right now. Jesus Christ. I don't even know the context of this. What happened? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:53:14 I saw a clip of like him like nearly killing the girl. It was pretty bad, like on camera. Jesus Christ. And like no one was helping for like a little bit. It looked crazy. I was like, but like even when I watch these like, I don't know, any of these reality shows, they do make me feel pretty fucking gross. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:31 Yeah. Like I watched. I watched a bit of like, uh, uh, Love Island because... Did you want? No, I don't know which season. I was at Ludwig's house. And I knew who we were watching it.
Starting point is 01:53:40 And they're like, today's challenge is who's the best kisser? And they'd all start making out with each other and taking it in turns. And I was like, man, this is kind of gross. Yeah. It's kind of disgusting. That's, uh, yeah. I don't know. I was like, maybe I'm like some kind of Puritan
Starting point is 01:53:54 weirdo, but I was like, just feels like, you're just trying to cause like real, like emotional turmoil for these people. Yeah, also like, that's just like starting up a herpes convention. at that point. Like, I don't... Yeah. But then again, I don't want to touch that many of leaves. Because Love Island was originally UK. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:10 I think there was unfortunately a couple of people who, like, I think took their own lives after being on the show. And it was only then after like massive amounts of public pressure. They're like, okay, we'll give people mental counseling or mental help. Oh, well, yeah. Which, what the fuck does that even mean? Like, what does that even look like? I mean, same thing happened in Japan with the terrorist house.
Starting point is 01:54:30 Yeah, right? I mean, it's, these things are so... When they're predicated on, like, making people basically be emotionally hurt by other people, it's pretty brutal. Yeah. Reminds me of that, there was a Hulu documentary about, you remember that guy in Japan, the one who, like, had to live off, like, winning, uh, raffle entries in magazines. Ah, Nassabi. Yeah. Did you watch a documentary about that? I did watch the documentary about that.
Starting point is 01:54:57 Dude, that producer guy was evil. He was, do you remember this guy? Straight evil. This guy was, like, torturing this. guy and the producer on the documentary like 30 years later was like this is fucking phenomenal. I was torturing him was fucking peaked hell of me. Yeah. And he was like in fucking ecstasy talking about how he tortured this guy. Yeah. And he had no qualms about being like, yep, I had to do what I had to do to get the TV and yeah, pretty pretty
Starting point is 01:55:23 fucking crazy. Yeah, I mean, I used to actually watch this show when I was a kid too, like Sissima de de Bachelorne because this was just like one segment on this show because like everyone week they would do different segments. I never watched this one, obviously, but like, there were some other segments on this show that, I don't remember exactly the details, but looking back at it, I'm just like, that's kind of fucked up. Like, I'm kind of watching a snuff film at this point. Did you ever see this gone? Yeah, yeah. To the views at home, we weren't aware, it was just a TV show where they made this guy sit in a room and have to get, I think, about one million yen or $8,000. I think we've talked about this before in trust. Yeah, yeah, in prizes. And, yeah, the producer
Starting point is 01:55:59 there who, because they kept doing it. When he won, they kept doing it. Yeah, when, no, that's the thing. That the cruelest part was that like, it took him, God knows how long to get the one million yen, and then when he got it, they put him into a new room and made him do it all over again. Yeah, I mean, you know what, it's even more fucked up?
Starting point is 01:56:16 I see something like this, and I'm like, okay, this guy was fucking tortured. Yeah. But I'm sure in this day and age, there's some fucking kick streamer or Twitch streamer that would willingly do that to themselves. Probably. Oh, I mean, if they thought that it would get the money, yeah. Yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 01:56:31 If they thought it would get them clout and following. They would 100% do this to themselves. Yeah. I mean, this is one step away from just a fucking normal Mr. Beast challenge. You know, let's just, let's just be real here. Yeah, I mean, this is a Mr. Beast challenge. Yeah, it is a Mr. Beast challenge. Right?
Starting point is 01:56:48 Yeah. The more time that goes on, the more it stays the same, you know? I'm just glad that he's, like, he's quite bad at editing his videos. because kind of like shows you that anyone who's put in those situations just kind of becomes unlikable. Like nearly every single time by our very few exceptions,
Starting point is 01:57:08 the contestants that he shows generally just become like kind of like shit people, shit people and kind of deranged. Because they're just forced into these really awful situations. Yeah. Of like just human experimentation.
Starting point is 01:57:21 Yeah. And you know, yeah, they're doing it willingly. Of course they are because money's on the line. But, a lot of the times because the editing isn't so great
Starting point is 01:57:30 it just kind of shows them it's just like man I think I would become super unlikable I think I'd become like awful to be around if I was stuck in a room for the 40 days yeah like I think I wouldn't be fun to hang out with or talk to you whatsoever
Starting point is 01:57:42 I would become fucking more miserable than I am yeah yeah at least I get to be stuck in the room with the two of you for many more weeks for many more weeks guys many more weeks Thank God. We haven't killed each other yet.
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