Trash Taste Podcast - Our Trash Taste in TV Shows | Trash Taste #126

Episode Date: November 18, 2022

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Welcome back to this episode of Trash Taste. I'm Connor with the boys, Garten Jay. And today we have a special episode. Yes. Only fit to be viewed on the TV. Hope you are Chromecasting this or you have a built-in Chromecast in your TV. Apple TV? The point is it's going to be on your TV because this is the TV episode.

We talk about some of our favorite TV shows of all time and roast each other's tastes. We're going to be picking nine shows each and then we're both going to be rating the other person's taste. Bring back that three by three, baby. We're running out of ideas. It's been a while. We're right on my ideas. No, nobody, because I've missed the three by three format. You know, I've missed it because we, it's been actually like a long time since we did our last three by three.

What was the last three by three we did? I think it was like music, right? Music, it was in. Oh, it was a music. That feels like a fucking eternity of you. Yeah, I know, right? It wasn't. Yeah.

I like, what's better than just talking about shit that you like? You know? And just not arguing every like five seconds about. I mean, we are going to be arguing regardless of them. You said you had a lot of difficulty picking your list? Yeah. Yeah. Because it wasn't until I was making by three by three.

I realized I didn't really grow up watching a whole lot of like variety of TV. Yeah. So I really, I had to actually text my sister to be like, what the fuck did we watch growing up? Yeah. Because I legitimately don't remember. So half of these.

Can't be that good TV if you don't fucking remember it. Well no, I remembered it and she reminded me because we were both like, uh, what the fuck was it? What is my favorite TV show of all time? I couldn't tell you, I can't remember it. No, no. Well, actually, it's, it's, I had a similar problem to Joe, in that I haven't, I don't think I've actually seen

that many TV shows, right? Or like seen it down to like the end or have like an emotional attachment to a TV show. Like there's lots of that I've seen, but like they haven't really stuck with me or they, I don't really feel that strongly about them. Yeah, because let me tell you the difference being like a TV show and an anime.

Anime, 24 episodes, one season, you can binge that in a night if you wanted to. You start a TV series and it's like, hey, here's nine seasons of 24 episodes, that's an hour long. And that's like, that's like a fairly middle-length TV show. Yeah, yeah. If you talk about some of the most famous TV shows,

like Breaking Bad or something, that's five seasons. That's so short in terms of like, I mean, for American stuff. For American TV shows, right? So the rule is that we decided to not include any anime because we've already done an anime three by three. We can do, it was like a mix of, basically it was like any TV show, right? So it's like a mix between like Western cartoons,

like narrative driven like TV, shows like just TV programming we used to watch. Literally, anything that's a series. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and season. Basically, anything that's not anime. Because it's not anime and a movie. I can name off more anime that I've watched

than whole, than the entire broad spectrum of TV shows in every country. I feel like my list, or Gant's list, uh, could easily have been my list. I'm pretty sure I know what Gant's gonna put on his. And I could have put them on mine, but I was like, Gant's gonna put them on his. So I'll like Gahn talk about it.

Mine's gonna be some weird shit. I hope so. When isn't it? Joe, isn't it? Why it's gonna be some weird shit? This is the math rock by the way and I'm like, the fuck is that? Joey, the Midwest emo.

I don't believe it's real. I don't believe it's real. It's not really, can't hurt me. This, I definitely felt more like a casual coming into this, like, than a lot of other lists. If I watched the most TV out of the three of us, that's sad. Probably, probably.

Yeah, because like I discovered anime really early, I discovered anime really early in life. So I'm like, why would I need to watch TV when I have anime, guys, come on. I don't know, like, you know, Sometimes anime's great, but sometimes you need, you need like a bit of Jack Bauer, 24 in your life to like spice things up.

Yeah, I mean like, I get that as well. And I like- Is that one of them? That's not one of them, but that could be on my list. Really? I love 24. I don't think I've seen a single episode of 24. 24 was like the thing I watched when I was 15, I'm like, this is so fucking cool. I know enough about 24 through osmosis,

but I've never sat down and watched any episode of Twitter. Is the movement of water particles, by the way? Not knowledge, just wanna specify that. Yeah, thank you. but it's the bad, have you been diffused? Did you just, um, actually me? Ah, actually, uh.

Yeah, I mean like, there's a lot of TV shows that I've watched, like, I've actually seen 24, but I've only like, I've only seen one season of 24. I've seen like three, four seasons of lost. I've seen two seasons of house. But like, it takes up so much time. I've watched a lot of TV, but I've never- Yeah, I've never, I've rarely-

done in my student days. Yeah, I've rarely finished TV shows right up until the end, just because there's so much. Fair enough. Yeah, that's why I had a hard time choosing. Fair enough, yeah. Well, should we leave it to Trash Boxkin? To decide.

His face is like almost gone. Yeah, it is almost gone. We should probably read John. He's like a battered war veteran. He is a battered war veteran. All right, who's gone first? I don't know who's gonna go first. Oh, it's you.

It is you, Connor. I guess that works. All right. All right, Kaye, bring up Connors three by three. All right. For those of you, in case this is your first time you're watching a trash chase three by three video. We should do a quick explanation

of what a three by three is. Basically, it's, as the name suggests, it's a box, three squares by three squares, nine in total, and it's basically nine, whatever the topic is in this case, TV series that you feel strongly about, or you grew up with, or you really enjoy, you really like, you wanna share.

So a lot of these are some of my favorites, but maybe some of this is a good story behind it or what it's helped me. Yeah. Basically, you'll get a good idea of what that person's personality is based on their three That's mine.

That's mine. I pull it up. All right, okay, let's mind. Right, where is it? Where is it? Yeah, there's, here it comes. Here it comes. You're gonna creeping in, creaking in.

Oh, okay. Okay, so I know for starters, right? Gantz probably put peep show on his, but I had to do it. I had to do it to him. Yeah. Peep showed that. I'm glad, okay.

No, I'm glad. I only know this one from the meme. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay, I'm glad that you, uh, put arcane on it. Yeah, I had to put Arcane on it. Yeah, I needed a toy. I was like Connor's gonna put Arcane on his one.

That's an anime though. No, it's not. Like you argued before, it wasn't an anime. I argued it was an anime, but no one believed me. Before starting, can I just say, this is the worst cropping I've ever seen. You've literally- I did not care to...

Hammo. Hanmo, cane! Is that any way we can full-steen? God, I... Dude, I can't even see the title of Madman because it's... Yeah, they put this big ass fucking over-water milk on. I'm like, what the fuck?

I was like, when looking for mine, I like, I tried to look for like square images of them. Yeah, same. Yeah, I just gave up. I've never seen of cane or sore or in hunting. So let's go, which way we're gonna go? How do you guys wanna do it?

I just go through them all. I mean, okay, so. Actually, before we get into it, I'll just tell what each show is and then we'll talk about. Yeah, please. Number one, Banga, Hannah Montana, number two in the middle top, big show.

Top right, arcane. Middle left, better call soul. Middle, taskmaster, middle right, Futurama. Bottom left, come dime with me. Bottom middle, mind hunter. Yeah. Bottom right is Mad Men. Okay, yes. I was, I was wondering, see,

because I've seen this image on the stir memes. Let's start with come down, come down, yeah. So you said calm really loudly. Yeah, come. That triggered a response in me. I'm assuming you didn't put it on your list on. Yes, I didn't, I didn't. You know, there was a yes, I didn't.

Yes, I did. Okay, there are a few things here that I very much considered putting on. Arcane, obviously. Futurama, very, very close. Come down with me as well, I think is pretty much the only. I made my list and I was like, yeah, you can tell I'm white without looking at it.

I was like, I felt like I made it and I was like, yeah, yeah. But that's fine, I am. Right, so. I too enjoy television. Right, so let me explain, come down with me to those who don't know. It's a British TV show, and it's fantastic. I swear this thing is shot on like a budget of like $100. Yeah. Um, it's they, they air like one every day. I don't like understand how this works. It's like they air so many of these goddamn episodes. How many episodes

have come down with me in the UK is there? So the, the whole concept behind this TV show is you get four strangers who all are very proud of their cooking and their house. And the idea is is that once in this, in this nice, uh, is it an hour or 30 minutes? Uh, I think, Kids about 30 minutes. 30 minutes, they all go, do you go to one? Okay, this is fucking. Let me explain, let me. No, I had a great explanation,

but I forgot, do they go to everyone's house in one episode or they go to one person's house one episode? No, it's everyone's house, every episode. Okay, so it's everyone. I'm explaining. So it's four people competing against each other. Sometimes five. Okay.

But most of the time, it's four people. And these four people go into take it in turns to host a dinner party. And that's better than me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And within, Within this dinner party, they have to impress the guests as much as possible, not just with the food,

but with the experience of their home dining experience. Right, right. Right. So sometimes they put as much effort into, like, personalize their home dining experience as possible. And at the end of the day, each contestant rates how good their experience was. And how good the night was, the food, the atmosphere.

Yeah. But obviously, right, like, you're, as everyone's voting for each other, it's kind of a trust system of, are you not gonna be a, and just give everyone else a won because you want to win. And so it kind of has a lot of really fun elements to it,

a lot of snide moments, but also the best part of the show is the cringe. It's so good. Because you get a bunch of just generic office workers, just normal people. Yeah. You tell them, throw a dinner party for random strangers on camera.

And it's just, it's fantastic. And then they also decided, and this is probably the best part of the show, they decided that they were going to make the narrator just a guy who just takes the piss out of, Everything they do. Classic British children. Just completely sarcastic, 24-7.

And it just keeps the show going. And it keeps you invested. This to me, come down with me, this to me is peak British reality TV. Because like, I imagine like a come down with me in America, God, every time I'm say come now, I can't. I can't. Come with me.

Oh my God. Like, if I imagine like, can you imagine an American come down with me? It would be like the most over-the-top It's chaos. Dining experience. Keish wasn't down. Boom, boom. Yo, 10 fucking vine booms in one shot.

Like, boom. Boom, boom. Kerry overcooked the chicken. Boom. It's great. There's very minimal editing. It's really dry. It's really stale.

It's like the thing that shines about this is just British sarcasm and sass. Because they never say that they have a bad experience with the meal. But that's what makes it good. Right. How would you not insult the host of this dinner party while still insulting

the host of this dinner party? It's fucking fantastic. And like most of the time it's like four very average or below average cooks just giving each other shit. Right. For not- I feel like I've definitely seen clips. Yeah, it's really good and things, while they're like, while the person's cooking,

I'm pretty sure the producer's like, hey, go and snoop around their house and look at things. comment and they just like raid each other's houses. It's so bizarre, but it's really fun and I do, oh my God, it's just the, the amount of bickering and just bitchiness involved was just fantastic. And it's just so, like, surfaced level. Like, Gantzor, they don't ever say it.

They were like, well, Timothy's Kish was rather cold, so I'm gonna have to dock five points for that. And it's like, what? What do you mean? Like, you're making shit up. Like, you just made it up. Or like, someone would be like, the food was all amazing.

And one person would be like, actually, I hated it. It was not too much ended. Like, you're right, it sucked. I think there's one clip where someone actually did properly go off. Like, there was actually drama. And it's one of my favorite, like, television clips of all time. She's like, like,

cause a guy was like really, really salty that someone else had won. And by the way, oh, I know this, he stands up, right? And he stands up. But yeah, by the way, the winner, they only get like 100 quid or something. It's like nothing, it's nothing, right? It doesn't even cover the cost

to cook the fucking food. People are playing for pride. And there's this one clip where one guy gets so fucking salty that someone else wins. And it's like one of my favorite moments in TV because he just starts like, it's the most British insults that he just starts throwing out. And he just goes, well, Phil three to get the fuck out of my house,

you reverse out of this like a, you reverse, you know, you walk with the grace of a dump truck or something like that. It's so good. Can we keep play the clip and we don't play it a clip. You won, Jane, enjoy the money, but I have, hope now you spend it on getting some lessons in grace and decorum because you have all the grace of a reversing dump truck without any tires on. Oh my God. It's, it's just fantastic. And it's just like, to me, it's what reality TV should be. It's like, none of this like ruins someone's life or

just make them fucking miserable or just sell sex, sex, sex. It's like, let's just get people to cook for each other and just let them, like, just give them the tools to have their own destruction, like just saying, hey, rate their food. Right. And just see what happens. And it's fantastic. I think there's like a bazillion episodes. Yeah, there is. 1,051 episodes of 20. 1,000 51 episodes. Yeah, basically, you know, you know that TV show that just always seems to be on TV? It's always on every day. This is always on in one channel or another. If it's not on like channel four, then it's on one of like the reruns of like one of the other channels. It doesn't matter. I'm surprised it even has seasons. Like it's really good. Yeah.

It's very, and this is where that iconic meme comes from where the guy puts the, the, the, the, uh, the colander's mouth. Yeah, no, the whisk, yeah. Wic, sorry, Wakanda. Fuck, be impressed with a colonel in the mouth. I love that image. It's so gross, it's so, like, revolting. But it's like, it sums up like, home cooking.

I just do it my way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? I don't know. Um, okay, so I, obviously I know Futurama, uh, Hannah Montana, obviously, peep show you guys talk about. I feel like you've told me about peep show. We'll stick on the Buddhist shows then for now.

Let's go right to the other. Let's go to Tass Mask. Okay, so. Peep's show. Okay, okay, so Peep Show. Yeah. I will explain it poorly. You've explained it to me before, I remember, yeah.

Yeah. So imagine two British people whose life is just not going the way they wanted. Right. And instead of like actually doing anything about it, they just take it out on each other and just cause the most cringe situations for everyone around them and themselves. So this isn't like, this is like narrative, right?

Like, it's fiction or? It's fiction and it's, But it's not like reality TV, right? It is one of the most intentionally cringe shows in existence. And if you love cringe humor, this is the king of it. There's no show that even comes close to this. I mean, I think the first episode opens up with Jeremy, who is one of the two main characters with Jeremy and Mark.

Mark is played by David Mitchell, who is a fantastic kind of, he's really great at playing these weasily characters. Yeah, right, right, right. Weasel-looking characters that are very like, and he plays that amazingly. He plays this kind of timid, but very like self-righteous guy

who thinks he's way smarter than he is. Kind of like Michael Seera, like type or? Michael Seara, if, what would have to go wrong in Michael Seer life to be, it's not bad? It's like, it's like an, imagine a actually somewhat intelligent 40-year-old man

who just made all the wrong life decisions and is angry at the world for it. Right. And so he kind of thinks that he's owed more than he gets. And so he just takes it out on everyone else in a very British way. And he just takes it out on Jeremy. But Jeremy is also just a giant buffoon. He's an idiot. And the first episode opens up, I believe, with Jeremy meets this girl who's wearing like a beanie. And he's like, oh, she's so cute. I want to have sex with her. And then I think they get together, finds out she has

cancer and then doesn't want to be with her anymore and tries to kind of break it off in a really weird way. And it's just so cringe where he's trying to like, he's like, because he doesn't fully understand, like, he knows what cancer is because he's never met anyone with it. He's just really fucking awful. Yeah. Being able to even remotely understand how to talk to someone with cancer. Jesus. Yeah. So he's just like, he's like,

when did this come out? It's like 2000, like, fuck it. Okay, I was gonna say this very 2000s humor. Yeah, yeah. No, no, this is like, this, this is easily air today. This is, this is, this is age, like, perfectly. Because I still watch it to this day. Right, right, right. Me and Sydney still binge all of the seasons, unfortunately.

One of the bad things about British television unlike American TV seasons. Yeah, yeah. Every, like, there's like seven seasons of peep show, but like every season has six episodes. That's, and that's six half an hour episodes as well. But like, this is what I really love about some British TV shows.

It really feels like it earns the six episodes, 30 minutes each, where it's like, there is not a single beat missed in this show. Yeah, like there is no episode that sucks. Yeah. There's no episode that isn't funny. And there's no episode where there isn't like five moments that isn't gonna make you laugh out loud.

Yeah, right, right. Just like, sometimes it's just every, almost every episode I think in Peep Show is an absolute banger. It's so good. And there are some lines that are just like stuck with me for like my entire life. Okay, there's a completely unrelated plot line.

I feel like this sums it up so well. Yeah. There's an episode where Jeremy is one of the characters works in a gym and Mark is going to this gym and doesn't really wanna go to it but is kind of being forced to. And Jeremy for some, Why does Jeremy want to not go to the gym anymore?

Why does he not wanna work there? I can't remember why. Um, because- I remember what he does. I can't remember. Oh. I think he joined it to get with a girl or something like that. Yeah, so he joins the gym to get with this attractive other worker there.

Yeah. And meanwhile, Mark doesn't wanna go to the gym anymore. Right. So he makes up this elaborate excuse that one of the masseuses touched him. Yeah. And it's like, it's this whole awkward ordeal where he has to go to the office to the manager. And awkwardly explained that he was touched while the guy is there, the masseuse.

It's just this stumbling, horrible, cringe-inducing thing and he touched me. And the guy's like, what the fuck? I didn't touch you. And then to get fired because Jeremy doesn't want to work there anymore, he like shits in the pool and then tries to blame somebody else. It's this whole like, it's just,

it goes from zero to 100 every single episode where everything just accumulates and builds. And it's just fantastic. It's so good. Yeah. It's, it's, it's cringe humor at its best. It's British humor at its best. If you wanna feel like you're British for some reason,

why don't know what you would. Watch this TV show, tell to it, tell her a British person you've watched this show. They will love you. Exactly. I mean, Sydney fucking loves this show. That's, you know, and that's how I knew that she could understand British humor. If you can get peep show,

because I show peep show to my mom and dad, they're like, why, why is it funny? It's too much from my parents as well. Yeah. It's too much cringe. It's a lot. Yeah. There is not a single episode

where you won't be uncomfortable. Yeah. The way, the best way I can describe it is, like, just imagine two fucking assholes trying not to be assholes, but in the end of the day, they're just, they're just trying to get on with life, but they somehow find themselves in the worst fucking situations. Right. I want to be watching that. It's so good.

And like, it's not just even these two characters. There's so many, like, if you've lived in England, you've, like, recognize who these people are. Because there's, like, some, you know, some of these, sometimes you have a show that you, it's It's a bit, hits a bit too close to home sometimes. Yeah, yeah. Because there are some characters that you kind of recognize as a person that you've met in your life before in the UK.

Yeah. Like one of one character that stands out to me is like Super Hands. Oh my God. I think Super Hands, who's just that guy who just brings drugs to everything, right? And he's just like, he's just lost control of his life. Right, right. Why is he called Superhand? No one knows.

No one knows. But this guy's just insane. And it's also shot really interestingly. It's all POV. Yeah. I think that's why it's called peep show. Yeah, yeah. And they shoot the scenes multiple times,

but like, so the camera keeps swapping between the POVs in the scenes. So it's never an angle of like, okay, his over the shoulder. It's like it's always POV. Oh, that's interesting. Which makes for some really good moments because a lot of the times, really awkward moments hit so hard because the person who sees you

that the awkward thing happened looks directly at the camera. Oh, I see. And it's looking at it like you did it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's really good. It's so good. That's really interesting. And it's just amazing.

And it's, it's, I know what the TV show is kind of shot like this to my knowledge. Yeah, I never heard that. Yeah, and it just works. Yeah. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, watch peep show. It's amazing.

I know, I know you guys like rave on about it a lot, so I definitely wanna get a go. And the POV thing also makes it feel very uncomfortable because you're often in the face. Right, right. And it feels like you there. You kind of feel like, okay, this is, this is a lot.

Yeah, and then obviously taskmaster, which, I think is, it's, okay, so Taskmaster, let me explain it before I get into it, but I think the show is blowing up and it's gonna blow up a shit ton in the US as well more. I know a lot of people have recently

coming up to me from the US, like, have you heard of this thing called Taskmaster? I'm like, yes, it's very old in the UK. Right, right, right. It's, I don't even know how you explain this. You get a bunch of comedians together. Yeah, I actually wanted to do a Taskmaster for after dark maybe one day.

Yeah, we definitely wanna do this at some point. The format is just gold. It's so, such good. So basically, Such good. It's kind of like a game show, but not really. And now that you put Taskmaster, right, I'm like, fuck, I have so many shows

I should have put on my list that I completely forgot there was this genre. So that happens a long. This is that, well, yeah, yeah. I wanted to put up a panel slash kind of thingy type kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, so I think this is like a very British genre of TV show, which is why I completely forgot about it, where it's kind of like this British panel slash game show, right?

But the, but the, but what you don't try to do in this game show is win, basically. They just try to be as entertaining as possible. Right. So with Taskmaster, it's basically like a game show where you take a bunch of comedians on and then you give them the same task, right? Could be anything, right?

Could range from getting a marble out of a bottle that's been sealed and like full of jelly or some shit. There's some really obscure, like, things that you're like, why would you do this? Like, you know, there'll be like 30 socks and be like, find the orange. Yeah.

But all of them will have something different. and you're allowed to like sniff three or touch two. Right. Yeah. So they're given like a very, they're given a very ambiguously worded task, right? Sometimes some tasks are more ambiguous than others, but it's up to the contestant to figure out

what is the best way to do this task, right? And so. There's always like a life hack to solving it? Yeah, yeah, there's not always a life hack. So it'll be just a house and you can do anything in the house with the challenge. So like for one challenge, it'll be like, They'll be in a room and they'll be like,

hide three eggplants in the room. Okay. Whoever hides their eggplants the longest from the guy searching wins. Oh, right, right, right. So it's like, you know, some contestants hide the eggplant. Others smash up the eggplant

and try to like squish it into something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, and some people start eating whole eggplants. Yeah, yeah. It's like there's, the rules are always set so ambiguous where any interpretation is correct and it's up to the taskmaster to decide if somebody deserves the point based on it.

You know, because maybe somebody did something, it's a little, a little too cheeky and the taskmaster, who's played by Greg Davis, who's amazing, we'll be like, no, I don't like that. Yeah, that's why it's like perfect for Drash Tays because we can't follow the rules. Yeah, so the rules are ambiguous

and then you never follow them and then the guy who are in charge just changed his mind. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's the point, right? I'm sure a lot of people would be like, I can't believe he lost this task because he didn't follow the rules correctly. Well, that's not really the point of taskmaster.

The point of taskmaster is just to see the funny ways that different people can get creative. Different people approach the same task. Right, right. Oh, that sounds fun. Yeah, yeah. And you can go as out of the box as you want. The only important thing is you gotta,

it's kinda like, you kinda gotta like try to not to take the piss, but also take the piss as well. Right. So I remember what like one, one task I remember recently was there was this switch in this room. And the task was figure out what this switch does, right? And so what happens is like nine people out of 10, they start flipping on the switch, running out, looking at every light in the house,

looking at every appliance in the house, seeing if anything's changed, run back in and like flip the switch off. And then they repeat this process, right? Until they finally figure out that the switch rotates a statue or something. That's what the switch did. One guy just cut the power to the switch, right?

And it was just like, well, switch does nothing. Because it has no power. Boom. Past time. Oh, wow. So that's the kind of like, thinking outside the box. Because he's technically right in that the Twitch

does nothing in that moment because it doesn't have power. He's not breaking the rules because there's no rules. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's very loose rules. Yeah, that's very, very loose rules. One of the best things is, is that it's completely available on YouTube for free. Yep, you can watch all of it,

nearly all of it on YouTube for free. Yeah. Which is amazing. Very nice. Because the clips, they have a clips channel, which is amazing, but you can just watch the straight up the whole episodes. Oh, cool.

And the best part is that it's, it's structured in a way where every episode is its own self-contained thing in like a greater season. So it'll be the same comedians for the whole season and the points will rack up. But you can come in any episode and enjoy an episode. Like there is nothing that requires you to watch the previous episodes.

Right, right. If you want to and you'll get more out of it, you can go one, two, three, four, up until the end, then you can see who the winner is. Yeah. So it's seasons, they have like five comedians and they change. It makes it a bit more consistent

and makes it have a lot more rewatchability and more reasons to tune in every week. It's really good, really good. It's gonna blow up in the US. Highly recommend it. We'll probably do a taskmaster. I think a lot, I know it's already popularness because they made a US version that sucked,

as they always do. Of course they are. But I think a lot more YouTubers and stuff will probably start doing some stuff like that. Oh yeah, that's cool. It's gonna happen. I don't think so. It's good. Taskmaster is fucking amazing.

And that's all my British TV shows that I recommend. What is Mind Hunter? Do you any of you know what Mind Hunter is? No. Oh, Mind Hunter is so good. So Mindhunter, unfortunately, at least to my knowledge

is not going to continue I think you can Google this. It had two seasons and then for some reason Netflix or I think some creative staff involved didn't agree on some stuff maybe Kai can fact check for me but it's basically about

it's a really good Netflix like drama but kind of loosely based on real events of why the FBI decided to start figuring out what psychopaths are. Is this a drama or? Like a drama but kind of loosely based on real events. events very loosely. Because, you know, they, there were, a lot of the time, you know, way back in

America, people were killing people with seemingly no motive. And nobody can understand why certain groups of these people were very, very organized, didn't seem to care about the killings, would kill like 10 people. And then some people in the FBI are like, huh, I think we should study these people who are clearly very intelligent, very good at their crimes, and who clearly are not like the other criminals. Yeah, right. To figure out. They're not like other criminals.

Yeah, right? Well, it's basically like this is where it's a story about how basically psychopath profiling started. Every true crime fan. But, but dude, literally, literally, literally. But dude, it's so good.

Like the acting, the shots, the cinematography, the pacing is amazing. Do we have info? It's on indefinite hold. It's on indefinite hold. Which basically means it's done. And it sucks. So as they go in the first,

season, they basically, you spend a lot of the seasons with this FBI guy who's really dedicated to figuring out this because he really believes that if they can figure out what makes these psychopaths tick and why they're doing this, that it can help them profile in future and figure out how to stop this happening. Again, this is all based on loosely based on true events and whatnot.

So the interviewer very famous serial killer over across the first season called Ed Kamper, who is like a very, very, very famous serial killer. And the actor in the series who portrays him is insane. He's so good. Oh, I think I've seen clips of that. The guy who like killed his mother,

and killed his family, and then went on to kill, and he killed so many people. And the only reason they caught him is because he got bored and turned himself in. Yeah, right. And he was really well-spoken, didn't, like, you know, wasn't angry. I've seen, like, interviews of the real energy.

Really creepy guy. It's really creepy. Because he would just be like, he would be willing to admit anything and talk about it in full. And so a lot of the first season is just them talking to him, going back and forth, trying to convince the higher-ups,

this is worth it. doing, going back to Ed, talking to him, the main character getting a little bit too invested in talking to this serial killer. And it's just really good, and it's just such a good human drama whilst also kind of showcasing like a really fascinating part of FBI kind of history and this kind of how they came up to start even doing this. Yeah, every true crime fan. Yeah, and then the second season, I think they have some Charles Manson stuff, another famous serial killer. Again, it's all really, really interesting. If you want a really good kind of, of crime, detective, not the type of it,

like, you know, a really unnerving drama. This is amazing one to watch. Is this, did this series start off with some guy blowing off his head with a shotgun or something? It might have actually. You know, I watched this when it came out. And I remember that it's just been one of those shows

where I always check every like month. I'm like, is it back? Is anything happening? Because I really, it was getting so good. Yeah. It's the dad that went to go to get milk and serious. Literally, but even because, because the two seasons are so,

I still feel comfortable recommending it being like, this is such a good TV show. It's so good. It's so good. Because I remember Sydney was like, oh, I wanna watch a show. It's on Netflix and stuff like that. And I'm like, what is it about? And she was like, serial killers.

I'm like, great. Okay, Cindy. All right, you're from Wisconsin. I get it, okay. I remember just like walking in the room, seeing someone blow the head off of the shotgun. Does that happen? Is that a massive spoiler?

No, probably not. It's like opening scene. Oh, yeah. And I just walked out. I was like, all right. Was that one with a guy with the thing around his neck and blew up or was shotgun? Definitely shotgun?

Shotgun, yeah. Okay, that's the other evil geniuses. But it was like a drama. It wasn't like a documentary. I've seen evil geniuses. That's good series. Evil genius is good, but horrifying. Yeah.

I mean, Mind Hunter is amazing. If you want just a great drama, you want to be fascinated, enthralled. You gotta watch it. It's on Netflix. And it's a shame that we're not gonna get to season three. Please bring them back to season three. Yeah.

So, Hannah Montana. All right, let's talk about it. Yeah, I mean, okay, look, you've talked about, you had a, I did, I did. But like, sell me on the show. Because I've seen-

Oh no, it's not good. But that's the thing. I've seen bits and pieces of the show. It's not good at all. I think, though, in a weird- So is this your guilty pleasure show? No, I feel like this has a lot more impact on me than I'd care to admit it does.

I hate to be like, but you know, when you're a child, you're impressionable. You know, at the end of the day, I'm not afraid to admit that Hannah Montana changed my life. Then were you, how did the change that my only went through affect you? What's Hannah Montana about? I've not seen a single episode.

Right, so there's, it's a great question gone. Fantastic question. So there's Hannah, he's with Hannah Montana. Yeah, well, that's like the stage name is Hannah Montana. It's this girl, I can't remember why she wants to be on stage. I'm sure, just because her dad, because her dad is Billy Ray Seires. Billy Ray Cyrus, who's an actual musician. Right.

I'm sure that, I'm sure that helped get the show. Akey, breaky heart. Yeah, yeah, literally. Oh, okay. So it's about her who, she's trying to get in school, but she doesn't want to people in school to know that she's a pop star, so she lives this dual life, where it's, it's just Hannah and-

She's living the best of both worlds. Yeah, so that's the way the best of both worlds come from. So she's trying to balance the, nobody can know I'm Hannah Montana, but also I gotta go to school, but also gotta do these hit performances. I can't know what her real name is, and her name in the show is.

Hannah Smith. Is it really? I don't know, I think it's just fun. And I think, I think, I think, like the whole Hannah-Montana Montana and the Disney and all that kind of got me into like American culture a lot more. Right, right. Got me into the path of kind of liking the idea

of maybe performing. Yeah. Because before that I had, I had no, no desire in my bone to perform or get on a stage. So basically you watched Hannah Montana and you went, I want the best of both ones. I did want the best of both worlds. And now as a social media person, I was like, how about just one world

and I'll make that the best one? Yeah. You combine the world. Combined the world. Think further, Hannah. Go further beyond. So I don't know, in a weird way, the Disney channel has this weird kind of intoxicating effect

on kids that is like, yeah, you wanna be a little fucking entertaining, you little slut. Yeah, yeah. In a weird way, I think it kind of does. It's just basically the, you know, the show for theater kids. It's selling-all- Yeah. Everyone on the Disney show is like a theater kid, right? I hate to admit it because I think the show sucks

in a weird way, but it was fun at the time. And I was obsessed with it. Again, it just got me in, to it and at a time where nobody, you know, because I find in school, if you're not a theater kid, you are never allowed to be a theater kid. You can never join, you know what I mean? There is a cutoff period.

If you are not in the theater kid period by like age eight, you are not allowed in the theater. The thing is, like they are, you had to be born and raised as a theater kid. They are a ruthless bunch, right? Where they like to admit or not, you can join the football team if you get better. You cannot become a theater kid.

No, no, no. And that, and that, stays with you for life. Oh yeah. Yeah. Once a theater kid, always a theater kid. No, no, no, you ever meet someone? And they were like, yeah, I was a theater kid.

And I'm like, I fucking knew it. Of course you are. I knew it. I can sense it from the aura. You know, you feel the pressure. For sure. You give off some real high school musical vibe, like.

It stays with you, dude. I swear they never drop it. But again, like, in school, I, a part of me, I had that tiny little inkling where I was like, I'd love to try this. Yeah. But even at 10, I'm like, the window's gone. Because like,

because the teachers wouldn't pick you. Yeah. Because they would never give you the opportunity to do anything because they were like, well, we already know we like these kids. Yeah, we know who can. These are the kids that act.

Yeah. You're not the kid that acts. You're the kids at terms of the audition and then we make the kids that act feel good because we pick them. You know, it's like, and this is a thing that I felt in a weird way, I hate Disney with a burning passion.

I think they're a terrible company. But credit where credits do, a little bit of it kind of brought out that that's like, fuck, you know, I kind of wanna. But I didn't know how. How do you get into it? And that's kind of like, what kind of maybe planted the seed to then when I found anime,

that made me think, actually I want a voice act. Did you, did you ever watch like high school musical? Yeah, I didn't really wanna sing. Right. Something about acting kind of spoke to me, but I didn't handle the tendency. Yeah, she sings, but it was kind of the acting part of it. Oh, okay.

A lot of the video channel, a lot of these kid actors, I thought they were amazing. Yeah, yeah. Props to the kid actors, I don't know how the fuck they did that. Yeah, I can't act now, bro. You know, and I think that planted the seeds to make me wanna pursue something and then discovered voice acting

and that was like, stars aligned, right? So that planted the seeds for me, but also, you know, a lot of people, like they can't get into theater. And I like that there's ways or kind of motivations pushing us to do it. Because you know, like people like fucking Gerard Butler, right?

Or who we'll talk about later? Fuck, Don and Madman, what's his fucking name in real life? John Hamm, John Hamm, you know, those two are both school teachers. Yeah, yeah. Just got into acting at like age 40. I love that shit. I want more of that.

Yeah, yeah. I hate it when it's like, if you didn't act from age 10, get the fuck out of the industry. You're a joke. It's like, I hate that shit. I think acting should be like, if you wanna try it, go the fuck ahead.

If you don't, if nothing comes of it, who cares? I think having a way to express yourself and having a way to perform is so, just fulfilling and satisfying. I don't know why fucking Hannah Montana, put that in my brain. But thank you, Hannah Montana. Thank you, Miley.

Express yourself. Over. Express yourself, guys. Yeah, all right. Then let's talk about Madman. I guess. I know the name of this show, never seen a single episode of it.

Yeah, it's like advertising, right? This is like the Chad show before Chad shows existed. Like John Hamm plays like a giga-chat. I love John Hamm as an actor. But like it's great because in the show it starts out as like, yeah, John, John, I think he's called Diadon, Don the show, you know, he's this kind of, he knows everything, he's smart, he's killing it.

But as the show goes on, they slowly introduce flaws to him and humanize him. And in a way that feels great. And it's about, it deals with a lot of the topics at the time. Like, this is like 1950s. It deals with a lot of sexism. It deals with a lot of misogyny.

It deals with other cultures not being recognized at the time and how that interact. Mad Men is about Don and the ad agency. They make ads for people. So a lot of the time, the show is just, how do we make this ad?

For newspapers and billboards and stuff like that, I guess. Big brands. They're like the pre- A grade marketing company in New York, Manhattan. Okay, well this is when like ad agencies started to become like a real big thing. Oh yeah, yeah, they started realizing,

oh, if you advertise correctly, you could make like a shit ton of money. Oh yeah, right, yeah. So, you know, a lot of the drama comes from, okay, we're interacting with this client. They have these needs and how that character interacts. And it's a great way of introducing characters for a few episodes that have a big impact

on the main cast. Yeah. And then how that kind of plays out in their life. Yeah. And there's a great scene that I feel like, after you've lived in Japan, you're like, yes, I understand this. They have, like, there's a scene where they, like, have a fucking, they meet with, like, Toyota or something.

And one of the Japanese car brands. Right. And they made, like, the ad agency compete against another ad agency to make the best ad. And they wore, he wouldn't like gig chaise. I will not make an ad to compete. You will buy my services or you are not welcome. And they go out. And it was just like this whole thing of, I will not dance for you.

I was like, I feel that so much now. This happens so much in Japan. We have to do bullshit. Wow. No, no, no. But it's great. It's a great show. What makes it good?

What makes it good? Characters. It's, I think, like, better call so much I'll talk about, like, really good characters, really good writing. Yeah. You know, it's a slow burn. Nothing crazy happens. Nothing explosive happens every, every episode. It's just, if you like people talking, you like good dialogue, you like development.

I like good dialogue. It's just a great show. And it's very slow to start with. I think that's the problem with that a lot of people don't get into it. Right. feels like, all right, when's something gonna happen? But they're just laying the foundation. I really love Mad Men.

Cause like I've always found the advertising world just interesting to begin with. I feel like I explained it poorly by the way. Yeah, it's like especially seeing like the evolution of the advertising world, like you look at like the old days in like the 60s or something and like an advertisement would literally be, here's my product, here's what it does. Let me list off all the benefits of using this products.

And I'm like I think like somewhere along the line, I'm not sure if it was like like, Like, it must be TV, I reckon. You know, it was, no, this was, this was on TV, but somewhere along the line, I think like the most, the biggest example I can give off, it's like, I can think of is like the cigarette industry.

Right. Right. Started like, they stopped marketing their products and they started like marketing a feeling, a lifestyle. Yeah, yeah. Instead of just being like, hey, here are cigarettes. They're gonna fucking kill you. By the way, you know, buy our product.

They're like, this is the American way. Yeah, it's like peak, 1950s America where they're figuring that stuff out. Wasn't it like, wasn't it like Coca-Cola that were like one of the first ones to do? It might have been really just like, it's, this is the feeling that you get.

Yeah. This is what it's like, it's like the how it feels to chew five gum. You know, it's like that shit, you know? But it's great, it's a long one, and it's got like nine seasons. Okay, right. But you slowly watch Don's life change quite a lot. But it's good, it's good though.

It's worth it. I got into it and I couldn't stop. Like it was, it was in thralling. All right. Yeah, okay. We also have Futurama. I mean, need I say much about Futurama? Yeah, honestly, I was, we were all this close to putting it on. It's like, I don't know, it's like,

how do you make, like, it's like, it's like Mac Roaning inside, I'm gonna make a show that's funnier than Simpsons, has a storyline, has characters that you love more, and just hits every note. I feel as well, the humor is a little more geared towards like the older generation, I feel. Oh yeah, yeah.

Because like, you know, Simpsons has a lot of- Well, early Simpsons is very good. Well, early Simpsons, yeah, but like, around like, comparing it to the Simpsons during the time that Futurama was airing, like it definitely felt like they cared way more about Futurama. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

It's kind of like a throwback to more the old school Simpsons type of shit, right? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, I mean, one thing I've always loved about Futurama is that they actually gave a shit about the sci-fi setting in the world. It wasn't just like a ha-ha, here, wacky setting, ha-ha. They're like, there are so many episodes

in Futurama that they really delved into this, like, really, like, niche scientific concept or something like that. It was basically kind of like, I like peek Rick and Morty before Rick and Morty exists. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Like, Futurama,

Futurama ran so Rick and Morty could walk. I wonder how many Rick and Morty fans gonna piss off with that. Yeah, I mean, it's, especially like when they started delving into more of the story aspects of Futurama, holy shit. Oh, some of the later episodes made me cry. Yeah, like, fucking Fry's dog is gonna stick with...

I mentioned that, you know, Everyone, everyone has the exact same reaction. Just like really funny jokes as well, like using the sci-fi setting to like a huge advantage. Yeah. Like I just like, one of the first episodes, right, is like Bender goes in the suicide booth, right? Yeah, tries to, and tries to con it. And I feel like that tells you literally

everything you need to know about Bender. Oh yeah. The guy doesn't want to pay even for his own suicide. We'll try and con it and then gives up immediately. Like it's like, they just, it's such good writing. And you can tell that everyone on the team cared so much about making the show as funny as possible.

Yeah. And I just love it so much. And I love the episode where Frye drinks like 100 coffees, one of my favorite ones. I fucking love that episode so much. That's such a good fucking episode. I fucking love that episode so much. Yeah, what I love about Futurama is just the cast as well.

It's just, it's rare that you see such a perfectly balanced cast. Like, like, even better than The Simpsons. Oh yeah, in terms of balance. The side characters definitely shine in that show. And even like the every now and then characters, that you see and like just some of the concepts that you see like, you know, obviously because like, you know, because it's Futurama and like Matt Graney Show, it's like, okay, we'll throw in maybe like a couple of like celebrity noddings and stuff like that.

But the fact that these like celebrity cameos make their way into Futurama as just a head. Yeah, Richard Nixon. In a glass. It's like that's like immediately way more funnier than just like, here's the character that you all know and love that just comes into the frame. It's like, yeah, it's a little more interesting. And then I guess the fine. I have two final ones.

Arcane. Sure. Arcane. Yeah. I mean, Jerry, come on. All right. What about a better call soul? No, so Arcane is fantastic.

There's like 70 clips of you guys talking about Arcane. I just think that Arcane should be watched. As you're weekly reminder to watch Arcane if you haven't. I am frothing at the thought of getting a season two. All right. Duly noted. Do you want to talk about a better call soul? And I just think they released it behind the scenes recently that was fantastic.

Yeah. The Rudy just showed how much love and care went into it. Yep. I agree. Yeah. What you said, Connor. Yeah, what you said. I don't know what more I can say about Arcane.

It's a show that hits the ground running. It's good. Save me. It's Joey's favorite show. I love it. All right. Hunter and Arcane, my top two favorites. So I figured that Gantt would not put Breaking Bad

because maybe we're gonna talk about it anyway. I don't know if maybe Gant did put Breaking Bad. I figured we're gonna talk about Breaking Bad and that universe. Spoiler. I didn't actually put Breaking Bad. I've never even seen it. But I figured we would wanna talk about it

in some capacity. Okay. Because I mean it's like, it's breaking fucking bad. Yeah. My favorite. Are you putting Breaking Bad or are you putting better cause?

It's the universe, it's the universe. The universe? Yeah, I think like, because it's, I would put both of them on here, but I feel like there's no point. Okay. The Metaverse? The Vince Gilligan universe, I don't know,

like the whole world of Breaking Bad and Better Call Soul is fantastic. And honestly, I mean, the other reason I put Better Call Souls because it just finished recently and it was, it was insane. It's so good. Like one of the,

best TV shows I've ever watched, like flat out. Just, I mean, I've been watching the show weekly, well, not weekly, since it aired weekly, uh, since I was in university. Right. So I was watching Breaking Bad when that was airing weekly when I was like 15. And I just think that there's something about it that, I mean, it clearly captivates everyone online as well. Yeah.

People are in love with this world and the show. And I think it's just because of how just careful and how meticulous all the character writing is. Yeah. And how, you know, there's a lot of twists and turns in Breaking Bad and Embedical Soul, but it doesn't feel like it's done for any particular shock value. It's like, you know, if a character dies, it is a big, big deal, and it's dealt with really severely in the show.

And a character's death has such rippling effects on everyone in the cast, and it bothers them and it changes how they view things. And I can't do it justice. I mean, Breaking Bad and Betta Callsoul, you probably know all about it. It is just amazing. And I hate being that Normie guy who's like, watch Breaking Bad, it's a good TV show. But it just is.

It's literally, like it just is an amazing show. Yeah, I mean, I don't know if, I don't know if this is going to be a hot take or not, or like, yeah, I've seen Breaking Bad. I think it's an amazing show. I have zero emotional attachment to it, which is why I didn't put it on my list, right? It's like, I think Breaking Bad epitomizes everything

that, I guess, does not interest me about TV. American TV shows. What? What do you mean? Where it's just... What do you mean? Okay. Kill my child already, John.

Yeah, yeah, I know. I'm like... Okay, tell me what. Like, like the, my perception of Breaking Bad is every reason why I am an anime fan, if that makes sense. Okay. Where I think Breaking Bad isn't like,

I look at it as a critic, right? I think it's an amazing show. It's got so many moving pieces. There's so much care and attention that's been put into the writing and the themes and how the developments of the show evolve and everything like that.

But it's, it's polished, it's, to me it's like, it's a show that's like, polished to a point that it's, it's, I don't know how to say it. It's polished to a point where it just doesn't interest me. What? Is that weird?

Is that weird? Bro, I never even gave it a chance. Why don't you don't want to say? the pinnacle in like TV storytelling. I think one, one, okay, one big thing again is that it's so grounded in reality, right? Part of the reason why so many people are attached to so many of these characters,

because they feel like such well written. You don't want your characters to feel real? He's an Issaquai fan. Yeah, but like, I think, I think it is an extremely tall order to make characters that feel real and somehow breaking bad and bedical soul are masters at making you

care about these characters. Oh yeah. Who are so well written and unbelievable. Yeah, yeah. They are incredibly well written to like. To a fault. That's so strange, I've never heard anyone have that complaint. Yeah, I know.

I don't even know if it's a complaint. I'm complaining that the show is too good. We're gonna study Gant's brain. Yeah, yeah. I mean, here's the thing. Sometimes you love, sometimes I like a bit of rawness in their expression. Sometimes I like a bit of unpolished,

you know, unpolishedness. You know, sometimes I like it when something is just, is not like this well refined. It's too clean. This is such a bizarre argument. This is going to build on one of the shows that I've put on my, which is,

okay, this is half of a hot take, right? Okay. I like, I think Breaking Bad is an amazing show, but I have zero attachment to Breaking Bad. I can understand that. I can understand that. I just think I loved it, lot. Maybe it's because I, you know, when I first watched it, I was like 16. Yeah, I've

rewatched it since and I still love it. I just think it's just amazing. Like it just does everything so goddamn well. Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's why I guess why it's like fucking number two on IMDB. Yeah. I mean, do you think that you, do you think Braddocker's better than Breaking Bad now that's over? That's tough. Um, I think... If you had to pick one of the two. I think Breaking Bad offers a more complete package of hitting every kind of emotion. Saul is a very, very slow burn that really believes in its storytelling

and its characters to tell an amazing story. It knows that the characters in the universe are so strong that they can really slow it down. And, you know, because the first two seasons, it's a very, very slow burn. Not that much happens. And it's like for two seasons, it's very slow.

It's all just setting the stage, building up these characters, showing you why they're gonna be why they are. And it's like, it's so rare to see a prequel that almost improves on what the main thing did and kind of offers even more reason to go back and watch the original. Like, you know, Jimmy's character of Saul in Breaking Bad

is very funny, very funny, loyal man. But it just makes, Better Call Saul turns him into this amazing grounded character where you can understand why he went down the paths you went down. Yeah. Just, it's just a great drama. It's, but it's slow.

It's very slow. Yeah. I think that's why Breaking Bad might just edge it out for me. Right. Breaking Bad just hits the ground running. Right. Yeah. Probably because it had to do a pilot. And whereas Better Call Soul could,

had the, had the brand, had more wiggle for, yeah. Well, yeah, I mean, the reason, I think a lot of people wouldn't watch Better Call Soul or wouldn't have got past the first season if they didn't know it was part of Breaking Bad because it is just, it just trusts that you want to see the payoff. Right.

Yeah. I think I gotta put a, I'm not personally attached to Breaking Bad. So Breaking Bad is like if you built an AI computer and you programmed it to write the perfect TV show, that would be Breaking Bad, you know. It feels like it is the perfect TV show. With correct Spanish in it.

Apparently the Spanish is dreadful. I don't know, apparently the Spanish is like unwatchable Spanish people. I'm so sorry Spanish people. But at least in Betical Sol, they have an actual Spanish person playing a character and he's really fucking gay. character and he's really fucking good. Gustavo? No, Gustavo is not even remotely Spanish.

Oh. And apparently his Spanish is dreadful. Oh, really? Yeah, apparently it's fucking unbearable because he's supposed to be playing a Chilean dude. Yeah. But he's from like Denmark or something and has African descent. Oh, so there's no Spanish ties remotely.

So people are like, bro, his Spanish is doo-doo. Yeah. Yeah, that's, I think that's what I mean. It's like, it feels like the perfect TV show, but it feels so good. that feels like it was written by a computer. And why would you not want that? So you say, so what you're basically saying

is that like some flaws in the show are good because it adds personality too. Issaquire has actually rotted your brain. I mean, it has, okay, I'm not gonna like, but like sometimes, okay, even what, like, sometimes one of my favorite things is kind of like feeling a connection between the person who made this particular thing,

this particular piece of fiction. I like feeling like there is, I understand what they're trying to portray or express, you know, I feel complete coldness because I feel it's just amazing. It's perfectly written, but I don't know what, you know, Vince. So there's nothing wrong with like the, like a show being like inherently perfect in its writing or like incredibly good in its writing. Yeah.

But like you need some kind of thing that gives you a connection between you as a viewer and the person who made it trying to express themselves through the work. I mean, that's why Evangelion was like, that's what I was about to say that's the Evangelian thing. Yeah, I mean, that's why Evangeline was like one of my favorite animal. made of all time really. It doesn't necessarily have to make sense. I wonder if that's just a person by person thing. I feel like I get it. It's definitely a person by person.

I feel like I understand the messages they're trying to put out and the feelings they're trying to portray. I feel it's the same thing with music. It's like sometimes you just want to listen to a good song and not give a shit about who it's made by. And sometimes you want to be like, well, I need to care about this song

because I want to care about this person who made it. Yeah, I know Chris loves medical soul as well. Good taste. Sheep. All right. Who's next? Who is next then?

Let's go for this person. Joey. Oh, it's me, okay. We're going in order. Yeah, all right, time for some weird shit now. Oh, hell yeah. Okay. What is this?

What is this? So yeah, some of these are a very Australian. I'm praying to God, if there is a single person watching this episode right now who looks at all nine of these and goes like, yeah, I like these. Can you just name what they all are very quickly? Okay, so. So we got Simpsons, Spicks and Speaks, Gakynote's Family,

Mythbusters, Ed and Nadi, Fat Pizza, Russell Quartz, all the adventures, and Arthur. Okay. Wait, okay, so. Which one would you like to start with? I know what this three by three screams. What? I don't watch television.

This is literally, because half of these are from your fucking childhood. Yes, of course they are. Because you don't watch TV. I don't watch TV series. Simpsons, why Simpsons over say, like you just mentioned Futurama. Okay, so I was really debating.

At first I put in Futurama, but then the more I thought, about it, I have more of a childhood connection with The Simpsons. Okay. Even though Futurama came out, what year did it come out? Like, no, not too long after. Not too long after, right? It was like mid-2000s, I think, or late 2000s.

I can't remember, exactly. But I feel Simpsons was that, like, one cartoon that has always been around. And I have, like, fond childhood memories of watching Simpsons with my sister more than Futurama. So, like, the only, like, I guess, childhood memory I have of me watching Simpsons was before my dad inevitably threw it out, he had this old CRT TV, right? And he was gonna throw it out and I was like,

no, no, father, I want it. Does it still work? And he's like, yeah, if you like get the antenna thing on it and you extend the fucking long-out antenna's out then it still works. And I'm like, okay, can I put it in my room? And so there would be nights where like my dad would be watching some kind of fucking TV show I didn't give a shit about.

And my sister and I would go into my room, and we would take turns holding the antenna on the TV to get good reception enough to watch reruns of the Simpsons. Oh, my. And so every, and because it was played, it played on Channel 10, there were like ad breaks every like, you know, 10, 15 minutes. So every time an ad break came on,

we'd be like, all right, your turn to hold the antenna up. And I would just have, like, fond childhood memories of that. And, like, that would happen after Futurama came out because in Australia, it would be a rerun of The Simpsons and then immediately after it would be an episode of Futurama. Right, right. So it would come. to be like a Simpsons Futurama combo for me.

But I still remember more and vividly remember more characters and jokes and stuff like that from The Simpsons. I consumed a lot more Simpsons than Futurama. Oh yeah, yeah. Just was way more of it. Yeah, yeah. And because it like, I remember I grew up with The Simpsons. Oh yeah.

Yeah, the Simpsons existed since I was born. Yeah, and it's like a game every year. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It came out every day. But then I remember when Futurama first started air again, it was like a new thing. So Simpsons has just like always been there. When do future I come out?

1999. 1999. Oh, okay. What is your, do you have a favorite Simpsons episode that comes to mind? Oh, you think Peak Simpsons? Peak Simpsons for me is the 24 short stories about Springfield.

Do you know that one? Which one's, what's the plot of that one again? It's basically just like, they, it's basically just like a fucking Quentin Tarantino-esque, like, just short stories about different characters in Springfield that all coincide with one another and there's a lot of like movie parodies and shit like that.

They parody like Pulp Fiction multiple times and like, just like classic movies and stuff, but with Simpsons characters. Yeah. And it's just a really, and also like, we used to have like DVDs of like the Treehouse of Horrors. I love the tree house. Those are like classic.

Those were like, even I remember the Treehouse of Horrors. Like the shining parody episode of The Simpsons is like, that's peak. I love the, uh, who shot Mr. Burns as well. Yeah, and also like the, the robot house of death and stuff like that. Oh my God, yeah.

Well, it's like the, they like implement like an AI like house and it's voiced by all the characters who played James Bond. Yeah. Oh yeah. It's like, it's voiced by Pierce Brosnan. You know. I think Who Shot Mr. Burns was how I discovered

what cliffhangers were. Yeah, right? Like, honestly, I remember as, like, genuinely good storytelling. Yeah, I remember as a kid, I was watching Who shot Mr. Burns part one? And then it ends, right? I'm like, what do you mean it's ending?

What? Where is part two? Where is part? Wait, wait, what do you mean I have to wait? I'm like five or something, right? Yeah, but like, the writing was so good that, you know, it got a fucking child invest And I think as well, like, I had it really good

because, like, obviously, Simpsons started way before any of us were born. Yeah. And so, like, a lot of the Simpsons that we saw on that shitty CR TV were reruns of the oldest seasons, which anyone who's watched enough Simpsons will agree was Peak Simpsons, right? Yeah, exactly. When did you stop watching The Simpsons? When did you all stop watching the Simpsons?

When did you stop watching TV? Yeah, pretty much. I used to focus on in the UK, right? On Sky. Yeah. The paid broadcasting, which my dad, because he wanted to watch football matches. So it was like, oh, we'll buy this.

And then the only reason that, you know, the wife won't get angry at me. It's for the family because we've got other channels as well. Right, right, right. So we had that. And they used to play four episodes a day from 6 to 8 p.m. Damn. So every single day after school,

just chill in the living room, do whatever I need to do, and just watch four episodes of Simpsons every single day. I remember, I think it was like on weekends that would do like three or four episode runs of Sims. It's crazy. Yeah, it was great. So many hands.

I can remember the exact moment for me that The Simpsons died in my mind. It's actually like The Simpsons movie, I think. Oh, yeah, that's fair. I remember like, oh, okay, wow, Simpsons got a movie, that's a big fucking deal. I haven't like, at that point I hadn't like watch, you know, I grew up with The Simpsons,

but I wasn't like regularly watching you. You don't realize it like season nine or 10 shit as a kid, you're just like, oh, this is funny, he-he-he-he-thage. Yeah, yeah. And then I remember like people fucking losing it over fucking spider pig was something. Oh, I got hated that.

And I'm just like, yeah, funny, why are people a lot of it? That was definitely the least funniest part of the Simpsons movie. That was like, and there were many not funny parts of the Simpsons. Yeah, that was like, I remember back when that came out, people were like quoting it, I'm like,

this is the pickle Rick of my time. You know, it literally was. Yeah, I was just like, why are people quoting Spider-Pick? And it's not even- Spider-Pick Ransomeick could walk. Dude, I fucking love, especially like, when we were probably getting in Simpsons, when all the best Simpsons games were out,

Oh, we're hit and run. The one of the arcade. The arcade ones were fucking awesome. Yeah. Oh my God, that was a fucking coin guzzler. That was Peak Simpsons right there. But yeah, I mean, Simpsons are great. Simpsons is great.

What the fuck is Spix and Spex? Okay, Spix and Spex is a TV show. That sounds all strange. It looks like a kid show. It's a quiz show. It's a music quiz show. Is it like a gay pride show? No, no, not at all.

They just happen to have a rainbow. Okay, okay. A rainbow's dope. But it's named after, I think, a, uh, a beach boys song, I think. But basically it's this kind of, it's kind of like, imagine like QI, right? But except all of the questions

and all of the guests are musicians. Okay, this is right up your album. Yeah, and obviously, you know, I'm a fucking music nerd, right? So it's like, that show was really cool because not only would they get really cool musicians on as guests, but they also, like, it was hosted by an Australian comedian called Adam Hills.

And he had, you know, in each team, there would be like different kinds of, you know, music themed like quizzes and, like, they would also break into, like, a talk show where they would like talk about guests and stuff like that. I think one of my, one of the weirdest segments that they had was they had this quiz early on in Spicks and Spex called musician or serial killer. And they'll basically what they would do is they would show a black and white picture and just by looking at the picture of the person. It's like a mugshot,

like front face. You would have to guess is this a musician or a serial killer. That's pretty good. That's also wow. And a lot of the times, and as a kid, I watch that and you know, you'd play along obviously, because there's no fucking prior knowledge or anything. This is before true crime shit was a thing, right? Yeah, yeah. And so like, it was really weird that, I swear, the more someone looked like a serial killer,

the more likely they were a musician. And vice versa. I believe it. Yeah. And so there was stuff like that. There was another one where it was like, they took song lyrics, put them through Google, translate to like some Asian language,

and then translated it back in English. And then they would read that out and you'd have to guess what the song is. And so like it was just like really cool ideas for quizzes. Yo, yo note that down, Kyle. That's a great idea for an off the dark quiz. Honestly, I like, honestly though, like I came up with like, you know,

I came up with so many like quiz ideas and stuff like that for my videos through shows like this. Yeah. Because it was just like really interesting and fun ways where you could kind of, oh, another one where it was like, there was like an exercise bike that was connected to a vinyl player, like a vinyl record player.

Right. And you had to pedal the bike at a certain speed for the song to be able to be able to play at a regular tune. And then you have to quickly guess what the song is, for example. It's just stuff like that. Sounds good. Yeah.

It's a really, really good show. Even if you have no idea about music, just the fact that it's like hosted by a comedian who's really funny, has a lot of really cool musical guests and just like the quiz segments are just really creative. Yeah. Which is like really, really good show. And then I guess top right is the only Japanese show putting Gakianzky. Basically every American, you know, like punishment game.

remake came from this. So silent library is one of the most famous ones. These guys came up with the first. Another one. Can you explain what silent libraries is? Silent Library, okay, so basically, everyone is a silent library. Yeah, Silent Library basically is just,

again, these guys started first, but basically you would go into a public library, sit around a desk, and then you would hand out, like, cards. You'd flip them over, one person would get the punishment, and then they would have to do a punishment, but react to it, And these punishments in this show were fucking brutal. I mean, Japanese TV share is a big history, reputation of being way too good.

Like Takeshast was another show that I thought about putting on here. They definitely pushed the line in terms of like what you can get away with on TV. Dude, some of the things that they did on this show were like actual torture. Yeah. Like it's crazy. Like one segment that they did was 24 hour

no reaction pie face challenge where basically one of the comedians in this group would live in this like mock house and the entire time for 24 hours, the rest of the cast are throwing like pies at his face and he's not allowed to react for 24 hours. What? Yeah, it's just shit like that. You're just being pieboarded.

You're being pieboarded for 24 hours straight. Insane. Yeah, it's insane. Another one was like 24 hour tag. So there would be inside of a gymnasium and then randomly a dude would pop up and if you got tagged by them, then you'd have to get punished for 24 hours. It's just crazy. I noticed in Japanese TV when you've done your time, so to say,

You've done the brutal stuff and done all the, you've put yourself out there a bunch. You get to be the React, Andy. Yeah. When you become the show first. When you become royalty in Japan's comedy scene, you get to react. Yeah.

That's, that's who the big dogs are. Yeah. Because they're on everything. Every big celebrity face you see, it's always the motherfuckers in the corner of the screen. Yeah, all the comedians that you see just in the React corner of the screen,

they started off doing shit like it. Yeah, yeah. So it's like, we've done our time. Yeah, yeah. They work to where the movie. They work they way up the system, man. It's like Hung Games and maybe you get a successful longer. Yeah, exactly.

Exactly. But like, honestly, if you're a YouTuber, just watch episodes of Gakunat's guy and it's just a treasure trove of content. Yeah, I mean, you've definitely seen some clips of this somewhere. Oh yeah. I mean, that guy is the fucking, oh! Yeah, he's the, ooh!

Yeah. But yeah, so that's like one of my favorite Japanese shows going on. Also, I learned a lot of Japanese watching that show as a child. I believe it. Yeah. And then- Japanese quiz games.

Japanese quiz game, yeah, exactly. Mythbusters, obviously everyone knows fucking myths. Where are you skipping the Adams family? Adams family. Okay, so this was during a- I never watched Adam's family. Okay, so this was the original Adams family TV show from the 60s.

I was wondering why I was in black and white. So this is on the 60s. Why do, Carlo? This was, this was during a time where I had this like weird obsession with watching a lot of old films. So I would, like, this was during the time where I would be like,

so was Citizen Kane actually a good movie? I'm gonna go and check it out. Right. So I would watch like Citizen Kane. I was like, okay. I would watch Susan Kane and like all the, you know, the all-vill films and like all of the fucking-

This is how you started your auture face? Yeah, I was, yes. And then it never, okay. I was like, I was like, I'm not like those other kids watching Breaking Bad. Fuck off, I'm gonna watch Adam's family. What do you mean, let's cook, Walt? Yeah, but yeah, I think what really was cool about Adam's family,

like the, even though this is, fuck, what, a 60-year-old show at this point? Yeah. It's still fucking hilarious. You know, whenever you like, you watch modern TV shows that pop on the TV, and you're like, oh, shit. Whenever you, for some reason in a place

and all TV shows come on, they're always so good. Yeah, they are. I don't know if I'm like crazy, but like that always just funny. They must be good in order to have, to still be played like TV. Yeah. Maybe, yeah, maybe it's like survivor bias

of like, well, yeah, because you're seeing the best of the best that we remember and cherish and made sure we kept in HDD. I'm sure out of every one Adam's family, there was 20 really, Shit shows. Of course, of course.

But yeah, like, I mean, you know. What is Adam's family about? I just know the name. Adam's family is about- Is it a comedy? Is it a drama? What is there? It's a comedy.

So Adam's family, I think it's based off a comic book series or a book or something. Please confirm, Kai. But basically, it's about this really fucking weird family called the Adams family that are like very, like, macab and like obsessed with, like,

death and stuff like that. And they're just like a very weird. They were like the original, like, we're not like the other families type of family, right? So like, they kind of weren't, to be fair. Yeah. So there's like Gomez and like Mortisha and the fucking, I don't know, Uncle Fester and like,

just characters like that where it's just like, you know, there was just like, it was the weirdest cast of characters. They're human, right? Yes, they're human, but they're, but they're so weird and so obsessed in the macab that they're almost not human. I mean, there is a character that's also not human called thing. But in other interpretation of the show, they are actually like, yeah, why do I think I think the vampires.

Yeah, so I think in other versions of stalking, you know, because it's, like, I think Adam's family is... Yeah, I think it borders on like, are they human, or are they just weird humans, or are they non-humans trying to live in a human world? Is the Adam's family public domain? Yeah. Can you look?

Oh, it was based on the cartoon, like cartoon. Oh, a cartoon, okay. Is it public domain? I can't remember if it is. I don't know, to be honest. But they've done a bunch of remakes of, like, movies from, like, the 90s, Adam's family movie is,

fucking hilarious. And I think recently, that's the Adam Sandler one, right? Not, uh, is it an Adam's family one? Or is that a Dracula movie? I don't know. It's not probably doing. Okay, it's not probably doing.

What's the one that Adam Sandler's in? The Adam's family animated cartoon? Am I crazy? Am I mixing? I think that's Adam's family. The Adam family. Adam Sandler's family, not the Adams family. Let me have a look. I got a fit because I think I'm crazy.

Yeah, so like, What I really enjoyed about the show is that like, because the characters are just so fucking absurd, it makes for some really, really unique comedic bits. Right. So like, for example, like, I don't know, like Lurge, for example, is this like almost like Frankenstein's monster type of thing, but he's also the, he's also the butler of the family. Right. And then there's also another character called Thing, which is just a disembodied hand that just

crawls around and emotes and stuff like that. And there's been so many remakes of it. I think there's going to be a. remake of, there's like a new like Netflix, I think TV series based on Wednesday Adams. Oh. Which is like the youngest daughter of Adams family, something made by what's his name?

I think Adam Sound, I thought, maybe my brain was dumb and thought Adam Sondland was in it because it's the Adams family. Yeah, that's what I was about to say. But yeah, there's the two. I thought we, I thought that was like too obvious to point out. I think that was pretty what it was.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know why I thought that. Yeah, but it's a really, if you want like a classic, like, funny, like comedic show, then I'd say Adam's family still Like a lot of the episodes, I think it's still really funny. Did you ever watch- Bang a theme to? Yeah.

Oh, yeah, of course. What is it? You know it. Oh, okay, that's it. Yeah, that's it. Did you ever watch the Twilight Zone since? Yeah, that's pretty good. Yeah, Twilight Zone I grew up with as well,

but like I don't think, Twilight Zone is one of those shows where that I would see it every now and then on TV. I wouldn't like religiously watch it like Simpsons or Spence or Species. So you ever watched that TV show that was like fact or fiction? And where all the memes of that, that guy going like, it's a lie. I made it up. It's not true. I made it up. I lied. I think so.

That sounds familiar. Oh, dude. What, God damn it. Why I'm such a fucking passion. Oh, no, no, no, no. Wait, wait, wait. I know what you're talking about. The guy in like.

In the smoky room. In the smoky room. No, I made it up. Yeah. Okay, no, now I know what you're talking about. I didn't know. I think so. I thought, what?

I didn't know that it came from like a TV. It's a show. Beyond belief. Beyond belief. Jonathan Frakes, Beyond a I don't know why. I just thought that was like a history channel show. Yeah, I thought so too. Yeah, it's just like a bunch of... And realized you'd forgotten where you parked your car. Never gone mountain biking? What do you want to be when you grow up? What's the right tip?

Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah. I've seen that one. I've seen that one. Yeah, this one's good. I like that show. That was really good. Yeah. Mythbusters. I think we spoke about this a little while ago. Yeah, I mean, I met Adam Savage. Mythbusters is great. Mythbusters is fucking awesome. If you don't know what Mythbusters is, Joey, Take it away. MythBusters, basically, Adam Savage and Jamie Hyman. They are basically, I think they used to work in, like, Hollywood as, like, special effects creators, but they basically have, like, two guys with really long science backgrounds

who basically take common myths and scientifically prove whether it's real or just a myth. Yeah. Really simple concept, but because they go about it in a scientific way, it's really cool to just see them be like, all right, so there's the myth, for example. that there's the myth, for example, that like enough balloons can pick up a human body off the ground. So then they go out and go, all right, how many balloons would it actually take

to pick up an average human body off the ground? And so they would go through all this, or like, you know, another one was like, how many layers of glass could stop a bullet? Yeah, for example. And it's also like, you know, can salsa dissolve prison bars? Yeah, yeah, yeah, just like stuff,

or like a floss, like a teeth floss, can it cut through it? steel bar for example. So it's like they basically take common myths or like stuff you see in movies and they go, is like is that capital fact? Yeah, it's good. It's like, you know, the predecessor

to a crazy YouTube engineering channel. Yeah, honestly. I was going to say this did science YouTube before science YouTube. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. It's very, it's very, it feels very nerdy. Yeah, it feels very, you know,

doesn't care if you don't like the show or you don't like the style. It feels like they just wanted to make the show and make it for them. Yeah, yeah. And make it the way they wanted it and blow stuff up. Yeah, it was one of the few shows that managed to make science cool.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Because whenever we think of science engineering, we just like fucking fall asleep, because it's like, why should I give a shit about chemistry or like, or like, you know, fucking biology. Sorry, I'm like that. The reason we give about chemistry is because of breaking bad, that's right.

But now, oh, you're telling me that chemistry can blow things up and set things on fire? Okay, suddenly I can now. Just like, in a lot of the, In a lot of the episodes, what I really enjoyed is the fact that it was just purely Adam and Jamie just being like, what if this would happen?

Or like, have you ever thought about, could this be real? Like, one that's really good is like, shell shock from grenades. How close, like, it's the myth of like, if there's a grenade about to go off and someone dives on top of it, then that will save everybody else. Yeah.

And so what they would do is they would, like, out of ballistics gel, they would create a human-shaped thing, they would put it on top of a grenade. They would put another human, some distance away and then they would see if that human if the unpaid and die. Yeah.

And it was just funny because it was just an excuse for them to just blow up a bunch of grenades. I mean, it's funny because you started this off being like, you know what, they did it for the name of science, you know. They want to blow shit up. No, they wanted to blow shit up. Yeah, I was just like, talking to the safety third guys, I'm like, I just realized they just find the most convoluted reasons

to find a reason to blow shit up, you know? That's true. And that's myth busters, basically. Honestly, and so like, you know, a lot of, like, I fucking watch the show religiously. It was like my favorite thing to watch. It's a great TV show. Oh, it's fantastic. Very well.

It has. It has. Yeah. Ed and Nettie fucking goes without saying probably one of the best Carton Network shows to come out. Awesome. I just love Edd Nitty a lot.

I love the, um, I've got the name of the, uh, this art style where the, the, every character's lines are always moving. Oh, it's like, like, rubber hose? No, no, rubber hose is more like Disney, like, like, like, 30s animation. Yeah, it's like, uh,

it's like, boiling, lines or something. Yeah, yeah. I love that. The color palette of Edinetti is nuts. I mean, and like just, it's one of those shows that where I feel the original creators

were just like, what's human anatomy? That doesn't exist. Well, tells us about the show, Jerry, what happens in Edanetti. Edanetti's basically

just a cartoon network show from the 90s where it's just... 2000s? Is it 2000s? 2000s? Oh, those the 90s? I don't know. It's somewhere around there,

though, early 2000s. Where it's basically just based in a cul-de-sac in everyday America and it's just a bunch of kids just fucking doing it. random shit in the cul-de-sac. To try and get jawbreakers. To try and get jaw-breakers.

So they do a bunch of schemes to try and earn money, to get jaw-breakers, because they love these jaw-breakers for some reason, and they'll do anything. Yeah. And it's great. Every character is great. It's just a fun show.

The voice acting is so good. Yes. It aged really well. Really, really well. The animation style is so good. There's a clip that recently I found on YouTube that I've just been obsessed with again. And it's just this one episode where Eddie,

this guy in the middle here, if you don't know. Eddie is like, he dresses up as like a demon, like character to try and convince Ed, who's the dumb guy, to do a bunch of weird shit so that he could like turn him into like a freak to like earn it a freak show.

And there's one scene where he's just like, eat your mattress. And then Ed just looks at the bed and he's like, okay. And then Ed double D, this old guy, Ed comes in. And it's just this scene of just just fucking eating this mattress whole.

And it's the most like, Kobe before it was. Yeah, yeah. It's just like, good Lord man! It's just eating this mattress. It's just the most absurdest humor ever, but it's really, really fucking funny. Like, one thing that, like,

re-remembering Ed and Eddie makes me realize is that are cartoons as weird now? No. No. Actually, ah, yeah, a little bit. A little bit. Different weird. Yeah, because I feel Ed and Nettie kind of falls into the same genre

of cartoons as like, you know, the Renan Stimpy. Yeah, the Renan Stimpy. Where it's like so absurdist, to the point where it's almost gross. Well, the art style can be gross at times. Oh, very gross, yeah. Well, I was just, I'm just thinking about it. I'm like, man, I watched a lot of weird shit as a kid.

Oh, yeah. And I'm just like- This era of Cartoon Network had some of the weirdest television programming ever. Yeah, like, cow and chicken was another one where I'm just like, cow and chicken actually forgot. Carriage of Cowan-Dod. I'm like, this show's a fucking weird. Well, like, if you put this on Adult Swim,

it would totally just blend in. Oh, absolutely. And I'm just like, how did we grow up with these cartoons? That's so fucking weird. What? Yeah. Like rewatching some scenes of Ed and Netti, I'm like, how old did I not get traumatized

with some of the shit I'm seeing right now? Like, dude, I would not show my kids Ed and Ed and Eddie. Did you have like an Ed and Eddie friendish kind of vibe? Yeah, I kind of did. I was definitely like the Eddie type of character where I'm just like, I was just convincing other people to do dumb shit.

Makes sense, thanks. Yeah, I definitely had a friend who was like Ed, for sure, it's just like anything I told him to do he would do. I think everyone, every friend group had an Ed, you know. But that's the thing. That's what I think was so good about Ed Ed Nettie was that it was such an absurdist, like, completely just like out of the norm type of show.

But the characters fundamentally were characters that you could recognize. Where it's like, there was at least one character in Ed Nettie where you're like, I have a friend who's like that, or I'm like that. Amazing music as well. Oh, dude, opening song, bang up. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Best one. So good. Do I have to talk about Arthur? Can we just say it's goaded? Arthur's goaded. If you don't know what Arthur is, You watch Arthur. How would you even describe Arthur?

Fy children's TV, but it's so good that an adult could probably enjoy it. Yeah. Like it is literally made for like five year olds, but it's written so well that like, again, like as an adult, you're like, this is not bad. It's so weird because it kind of hides its very adult themes in a very like friendly for children type of way.

Like I think it's really, I think Arthur is one of the best shows when it comes to subtle writing. Yeah. Where it's like, before you realize it, this character has been built up to be something that you can kind of be like, yeah, I get what you're going through, bro. There's some really good episodes.

Yeah, I remember even when I was like 16, yeah. Come back from school, if Arthur was on, I'd watch Arthur. Oh yeah, I loved Arthur. And speaking of banger openings, my lot. Oh my God, one of the most legendary cartoon openings ever. It is ingrained in my mind,

hard etched in. Dude, everybody thought there were roster when they were listening to this shit, you know. It's very much a shame that it's gone. You will not be missed after. You're a legend in our hearts. It's weird because I know I watched so many episodes of Arthur. I don't know if I was just too young.

No, you do, yeah. But I don't like remember much of it. It's only through memes that I'm like, oh yeah, this kind of happened. Waring the headphones. Yeah, wearing the headphones. On top of the years, yeah. The fucking Arthur Fist.

Yeah, that's legendary. No, what about that, what was it? It was the meme of, um, what's the fucking bulldog looking? guy and he's like... Yeah, I can't remember And he's like, and he puts the headphones in, and he just like starts tripping out.

Oh yeah. I love that one. It's so good. It's such a really good show. Okay. Um, the final two ones are very Australian. They look, they look Australian. Holy shit.

Which one do you want to start with? Pick, pick. Okay. Uh, Russell Coyt's All Aussie Adventures. Okay, so this was, um, do you know the show Kath and Kim? No. It's like very, like one of the most quintessential

Australian sitcom shows. Very, very extreme. We're only imported neighbors. Yeah, well, okay. So it was, if neighbors is like number one, Catherine Kim's like number two. It's like one of the most beloved shows. I thought about putting that on there,

but this guy, he's, I keep forgetting the guy's name, the actor's name, but he's also a comedian. Russell Quaid. No, so Russell Quoit is this character's name. Oh, so basically this is a parody of like a kind of survival, like Steve Irwin's survival in Australia type of educational show. Right. Except this guy whose real name's not Russell Quaid,

he's an actor. He plays this character called Russell Coyt, who's like the most stereotypical like, yeah, I'm a, you know, I'm a survival expert out in Australia. And he tries to give, and it's just this sketch comedy show where it's Russell Coyt just trying to like kind of tell you about like, how to, this is how you build a fire in Australia.

Or like, oh, I just found a red belly black snake. Here's how you like get rid of it. But it always ends up in the most like horrific ways. Yeah, that's awesome. There's this one scene where he's talking to some Indian, Indigenous Australian people. And he's kind of like getting them to like, you know, teach them about like how to like pick berries in the wildlife and stuff.

Yeah, yeah. Learning from them. But there's this reoccurring joke in Russell Coyt where every time Russell Coyt goes up to someone and gives him a handshake, there's this one clip that replays every single handshake. So it's like, it's just, it's almost like this stock image video of just the close up of the hands, handshaking, these two white guys handshaking.

And it plays every time Russell Quayt goes up to a new person and gives him a handshake. So this is one, in the one episode where he's talking to these, like, indigenous Australians, and he's going up to handshake all them. Every time he goes into handshake, it just cuts to two white guys handshaking.

Every, and it's like, this show is like, that sounds like a meme. Yeah, it, oh, it is, dude, like, people go back. Or like, adults or who's? Or both. Yeah. Like, there were some instances where, like,

it was very, like, adult oriented, where like he would actually get hurt in the show. Oh, right. but in like a comedic kind of way. But it was just so incredibly funny because it's one of the most perfect examples of just really subtle comedy in like sketch comedy shows. I don't know how well it is aged today.

It might be, you know, because I think this is from like the late 90s, I think, early 90s even. Good age, Pauli. Yeah, yeah. So some- A lot of comedies of age poorly from that time. And another comedy that might have aged poorly from that time is this one, it's called Fat Pizza.

So this is a show So Kevin, right? Our boy Kevin, Kevin Pankin Yeah. We fucking bonded over this show again the other day when we're in Australia Because this is one of those shows Where I think everyone in our age group

Watch this show. Right. So basically, like you guys were talking about peep show Being like the peak of like British cringe comedy. Yeah. This is probably the Australian equivalent to it. Right. Okay, okay.

So it's this show about this guy Paul who is this like Italian Australian immigrant and it's basically about his character he's like a pizza delivery guy and he works at this like really fucking sketch pizza shop in this really sketch neighborhood of Australia

and it's basically just like the daily shenanigans that he gets up to where he has to deal with like these like fucking horrendous like Bogan customers and like because Paul Polly this actor's name I think his actual real name is Paul as well

right um And all of the cast members are like, you know, Italian immigrants in Australia or like, like, Lebanese immigrants in Australia. And it's just like a lot of the, it's, it's very much revolved around like kind of the European and Middle Eastern immigrants who migrated to Australia. So a lot of that kind of comedy exists. But you don't have to be part of that race to understand that comedy. Because it's so ingrained in Australian comedy. There's a really famous actress now in Hollywood, Rebel Wilson, I think her name. She started off in this show.

Wow. Okay. Rebel Wilson, she's not in this picture. Oh, no, she's right there. Oh, okay. So she started off, this was like the show that made her famous in Australia. She played this character called Tula, who is this like,

fucking obese, like, girl who like keeps ordering pizzas from this one pizza shop. Okay, okay. And it's just like, it's really fucking difficult to explain. But basically it's, hearing you guys talk about peep show is basically the Australian equivalent. Take a lot of cringe. Okay, great, great.

I'm already interested. A lot of, if you want to experience, yeah, it's incredibly cringe, it can be incredibly offensive at times, but also really, really funny. Yeah. My Australian brothers, I know you guys get your sarcasm, your cringe humor.

Oh yeah. That's why like, I would be very interested to watch this. Yeah, I fucking love to show. I feel this is the perfect window into what Australian, like, you know, comedy and like civilization is kind of like. Civilizing.

Because to be fair, we live in a civilization. Because to be fair, I have been to some places in like kind of outer Australia, where it gives off this vibe. Okay. Like these are like, they're exaggerations, I think, of people that exist in real life. Yeah. Yeah. Is there a particular scene that sticks out to you?

Oh, fuck, I don't know. So like, uh, like, there's this one scene where like, Pauli gets like, he has like this friend, this Lebanese friend called Herbibu. And he like pisses off Habib for doing something. And then Habib's just like, don't fucking get in my way, bro. I'm gonna call up all my cousins. And then he's just like,

how many cousins do you have you? And then five minutes later, there's just like over the hill, there's just these like 40 cars just full of these Lebanese dudes that just like rock up to the peachy shop and just start beating the shit out of Pauly. And then Habib, he's like this character.

He plays like this like stereotypical, like Lebanese Australian guy. So every time he takes off his shirt, it's just like completely just like full of hair. Like you can't see any of his skin at all. And it's just like kind of plays into those stereotypes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But not in like a way where it's like racist. If that makes sense. It's just like a lot of like just very, you know, tongue and cheap like slapstick comedy. Yeah. Yeah. Um, that's, uh, my, I don't watch TV. How hard was it to make this? To be fair, thinking about it now, I would probably replace maybe like, Because I completely forgot about top gear.

Yeah, yeah. I'm like, I mean, I could have put that too. I could put that in as well. And I'm like, what the fuck? I watched so much fucking top gear. So like, I would probably replace one of these top gear, yeah. But we're top gear now, right guys?

We just try to, we just try hard. We're the bottom gear. But yeah, there you go. So, all right. Okay, I was wrong. Ed Nettie is 1999. Fucked, fuck you. I was right.

All right. All right. All right. All right. All list's gone. I already see that a bunch of these I could have put on my Yeah, exactly.

Hello, we watch the same popular TV shows. Yeah. So there's a couple I don't know. Okay, so starting from- You don't know some of these are so famous. These are literally some of the most popular shows. What's this one? This was Pete Show again.

Except I just framed it right this time. Okay, so I guess we don't need to talk about Pete Show. Yeah, we don't need to talk about Pete Show. So always sunny, Game of Thrones, peep show, the good place, the original Justice League cartoon, Shinobul, Shinobu, sorry, Battlestar Galactica, Black Mirror and Doctor Who.

I am very surprised by Battlestar Galactica. Yeah. Hold up, what? Okay, okay. Exx- Why, why Battlestar Galactica? You never mentioned an interest in, like, sci-fi stuff. Actually, I've realized it when making this list,

but I've really fucking love sci-fi TV shows. What the fuck? You've never talked about sci-fi. Yeah, why have you never, like, hinted at that? What do you mean? I, okay. This is the music three by three all over again. Is it because that I already talk about Isikai Anna?

Yes. You literally have never given inclination that you give a fuck about Syracine. I would take you more seriously if you stopped talking about Issa-Gy. You didn't talk about. Huh? You didn't talk about, Dune. Dune's great.

Dude, Dune's fucking great. I think it's weird, I think it's weird, right? Because I fucking love sci-fi, but I just don't like Star Wars. And that's like, that's like what everyone fucking talks about, you know? So yeah, Walker's Battlestar Galatica. Battle of the few sci-fi shows, sorry, one of the few television shows that I actually got to complete when I was in universities.

It's been a while since I watched Battlestar Galatica, but I enjoyed the journey, the journey from start to end. Basically, if you want a synopsis of the basic plot of Battlestar Galatica, it's a sci-fi show. It's a space opera. Humans have colonized the galaxy, and there are like 13 colonies or some shit like that. And then they also,

built AIs, right? Yeah, they'll be AI robots. And of course, the AIs had an uprising where the AIs, I believe they destroyed 12 of the 13 colonies, right? And the one remaining surviving group of humans, they tried to find the last mythical 13th colony, which is the Dundun, Earth. Spoilers.

Damn, damn. But what makes it interesting is, of course, these are like the last 50 or 60,000 humans that are just traveling through space, trying to find this last colony. But of course they're on the run from the robots, which is like, I think, I believe they're called sylons. But the twist is that the robots, the sylons,

are so well programmed that there are some sylons that have invaded this fleet of humans. But they're so well programmed that they don't even know that they're like a sleeper agent, right? So, and they look and sound and act exactly like humans do and there's no real way to detect them. So basically- Real Blade Runner shit.

Huh? Yeah, so basically it's just fucking sci-fi among us, you know? Among us is sci-fi. I guess it is. So it's just Among Us. You know what? Among Us is just Battlestar Galactica with the suits on, okay? How many seasons are-

Battle Star Galactica of the game. Okay, this is what I liked about Battlesaug Galactica. I believe it's only four seasons. And it finished? And it finished. It's a complete story. But what I found really, one, that's the one thing I really, really liked,

because that's why I've rarely, rarely finished TV shows. Number two is that even though they have this, you know, tension between like, oh, who's a human, who's a Cylon, I know, everything like that. What I really liked about the show is how it took this one group of colonies and really explored some really interesting ideas about what would happen if you try to govern

these group of people, right? So basically they kind of created a mini nation, right? And they draw you in with like the space battles and just the peop, peepoo and all that stuff like that. But then what's, yeah, yeah, exactly. But what kept me interested in, interested was in fact the politics, the politics behind the spaceship, this last space colony and like what happened

between how you govern all of the humans and everything like that on. And I found that way more interesting than the Pee-Pew and like the Among Us part of the show. I mean, visuals can take you so far. Huh? Visuals can only take you so far. Visuals can only take you so far.

It is just one of the best sci-fi shows I've seen. Question then, did you enjoy Firefly? I have not seen Firefly actually. Because I feel from, if you liked Battlestar Galactic, I think you'd really like Firefly. Like, have you seen Firefly? Yeah. All I know is it didn't finish.

Yeah. Well, they made a movie called Serenity afterwards, which was supposed to be like the sequel. Is that really? Is that really like a sequel to it though? No, because I've seen Serenity and I'm like, No, it's not a sequel. Okay, what is Fireflies about?

Because all I know is like a space spaghetti western or something like that. Pretty much. I'm trying to also remember what it was about, to be honest. Watch it and find that. I just remember it being really good. Because like, Fireflies is that one show

that every person tells you to watch. Yeah, every, Every sci-fi TV fan will be like Firefly best. Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, but it was right by Josh Whedon, is that a good thing or a bad thing anymore? I don't know, you know, like it's, that thing, you know, kind of puts me off anyway.

But I guess next. Okay, while we're on sci-fi then, Dr. Who. Okay. Okay, because seeing that immediately, I was like, holy shit. I forgot this show existed. I see you specifically. You picked the best one as well, to be fair.

I chose David Tennant. Yeah, yeah. He was the best one. Choose David Tennant, but more broad. like Doctor Who in the Russell T. Davis era. Okay. Yes. So basically, I'm, okay, the thing about Doctor Who fans

is a lot of them are just fucking insufferable, right? They're like the modern Star Trek fans of old, you know. I think same thing can be said for a lot of these shows. That's true. That is true, right? Yeah, yeah. I mean, if a show's good in some way, in long running, it gets insufferable fans. Yeah. I mean, but like, that's why I really talk about Doctor Who.

But like I, it's a good show. It's a really, really good fucking show. And I fucking, this, I said Battle Star Galatica is one of the best sci-fi shows I've seen. Doctor Who is the best sci-fi show seen. It is, I'll agree with that. Yeah, yeah. It is, in terms of like TV shows. Yeah.

It is by far the show that tackles the most weirdest ideas you can ever imagine. And it has like, what I love about Doctor Who is that every episode is like kind of self-contained, right? Every episode tackles a different idea, a different time period, a different place in space, and time, right? That's what makes it so fucking interesting. But then it has like an overarching plot as well, that you don't necessarily need to watch

the beginning of Doctor Who to appreciate it. Oh, I've not seen the beginning of Doctor Who. You can't because no one knows where the episodes are because the BBC dumped all the episodes. Oh, really? Well, because back in the day, they thought, why the fuck are we need to archive this stuff? Oh, shit.

I do it away. So I think a bunch of the original, original, original Doctor Who episodes are on, you can't watch them. It's like lost media now. Yeah, yeah, it's probably never gonna be found. Yeah. And like to me, like Doctor Who, like David Tennant's obviously my doctor,

but I really, really, he's my doctor. God, I sound like such a Doctor Who fan. Like, he's my Doctor Who. Who's your Doctor Who stand. I always liked Doctor Who and I watched it, but I just never got into it. Like I would watch episodes here and there, you know, the Christmas special episode.

Yeah, yeah. I think I started with like, because David Tenner was the 10th season. Yeah. And I think I started on like season eight or season nine. I don't remember what's what I was. Is this after like the, who was the doctor? I don't remember.

Whoever it was before, bless you, whoever it was before. Was it Christopher Ackleston? I would know his face if I saw it. It was whoever it was. Was it? It was whoever before it was. Okay, that was Christopher Eccleson.

Okay, okay. That was the first one I watched where I'm like, ooh, what is this show? And then I started getting into it. And then David Tennant and Doctor Who? like season 10 where it was just like, holy shit. Yeah, he's great. He's just an amazing actor.

Yeah, like Christopher Eccleston also amazing actor as well. And then it was Matt Smith afterwards. Matt Smith, which is like, who wasn't a bad doctor? I just feel like, he's a lot of people's favorites. Like, he is a lot of people's favorite. I think the episodes for a season 11 were a bit boring, though. Yeah, I just think that it wasn't Matt Smith's fault. It was like Stephen Moffat's fault.

Was it Stephen Moffat? I think it's Stephen Moffat. I don't know. Which season was the weeping angels? God left the BBC. Yeah, yeah. I stopped watching Doctor Who once I left the BBC. Okay.

He bared no loyalty to it anyway. The Weeping Angels episode is by far my favorite. Yeah. Because that is probably the most unnerving episode of television ever. Because like the real beauty of Doctor Who is, I remember getting into Doctor Who through Christopher Eccleston. And that was like when the Russell T. Davis era started.

And I remember watching like a few episodes. And I was like, the shit. Look at the monsters, man. Look at the worst CGI I've ever. That's literally, this is literally the worst CGI I've ever seen in my life. Some of the CGI would make fucking some of the anime CGI. It would make Berserk 2017 look like fucking God tier, man.

That's how bad the CGI was. And I'm like, this is absolute garbage. Why does everyone hype up Doctor Who? But then I just like, you just keep watching. And somehow the writing is so compelling that it dances the perfect line between campiness and, you know, just epicness. Great television. And just great television.

Because it's something where, If you just step out for a minute and just look at it out of context, look at something like the Daleks or something and I'm just like, and you're just like, why is this guy pointing a light at a talking washing machine? Exterminate.

Why is it got a fucking suction cup? It does look fucking shit. It looks weird. It's fucking ridiculous, right? But that just shows how fucking good the writing is and the actors are of this like Doctor Who world, right? And yeah, there's just a certain magic

where technically, It is also a children's show, but it turns everyone who watches it into a child. Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, it turns you, it turns you back into that point in life where you didn't question things too much. You just saw something called on TV and you're just like, wow, that's, that's scary, you know?

And yeah. Yeah, these things always go to the fucking Doctor Who museum in Cardiff. Yeah, really? Yeah, because a lot, a lot of Doctor Who is shot in Wales. Oh, really? So, and in Cardiff they have a ton of, like, it's a big museum or something.

I remember, oh my God, my school used to drag me. And I was like, I fucking hate this. I don't like Doctor Who. I also thought, it was a family guy museum. I also thought, I also thought it was really genius, the writing that they incorporated, I guess for the TV show, where like at the end of each season,

like when the doctor dies, quote unquote, like he's just like, no, he doesn't die. It's just another version of him dies. And that's just like a great way to just be like, all right, next season, who wants to be the doctor? Yeah, who wants to be the doctor? I also think it's a good way to like reset

to, one friend and it just resets the ongoing story. Because the thing is, even though there's like one, there's one massive ongoing story, which is like the doctor tries to find his home planet, you know, but then every iteration of Doctor who has their own kind of self-contained story with their own characters, their own side characters

within their own self-contained story. I just think, I just think, yeah, David Tennant. David Tennant is amazing. David Tenor is fucking amazing. I mean, he's just an amazing actor. And Jessica Jones, he's insane. Fucking out, like, has he been in more roles, from Doctor Who and Jessica Jones.

I think he does a lot of theater. Yeah. So I think he doesn't do as much TV. I think he's theater train, right? Yeah, yeah, he is. Oh, he never is. He's, I think he does a lot of theater. Yeah, yeah, as much on the side of the TV.

It's just shame, really, because he's really good. Yeah, uh, anyway, Doctor Who. It's, which one's like to talk about next come? Let's talk about Game of Thrones. Okay, I wanted to talk about that first, right? Okay, going, going off the Breaking Bad. Okay, Game of Dines. Go, go, go, go, go, go,

Going off the breaking bad point. Okay, okay. This is definitely going to be a hot take. I thought season eight was the best. What are you gonna say? I prefer the latest seasons of Game of Thrones. Fuck off, God, no. Genuinely, God, okay, genuinely.

Do you know how bad? That is, I was tired, right? We've been filming all day. That woke me the fuck up. God, I will, I will tell you how bad of a take that was. I will tell you how bad of a take that was. I haven't seen a single episode of Game of Thrones and I know that was a bad take.

That is, that is no. That's how I know how much of a bad taking that one. It's like I want the one written by the people who didn't read the book and I want Ed Shearin in it and I want Teep-Pee-Bee-Boo Sting-E-Jose. Wait, it was in it? Yeah, Ed Sheeran was in an episode. Like it is, it is just bad. Oh my God.

What do you like about that? Explain yourself. Okay, okay. You're on trial right now. Okay, I'm on trial right now. Like I said, like I said about Breaking Bad, it felt like- Tell me the season it got good first and then tell me why. I mean, I think it was always good.

Okay, it was always good. But it just got better. When I really, when I really got invested was around season six. My favorite season was about season seven. Wait, is it season seven the one season where like all, everyone got pissed off? No, no, no, that's season eight. And even even I'm like, okay, season eight, okay, that's, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was a little blunder. That was a little blunder right there, all right?

But I, I, I, okay, because here's the thing, right? Going back to my breaking bad energy, I know I got the entire world, what watching me right now. I have got the entire fucking world watching me right now. And then people will wonder, man, why is the subreddit spiking all this. After this episode goes live, you just hear, boom! I can understand the breaking bad take,

but this one feels irredeemable. I can't wait to read the comments on this episode. Go on. Like I said, Game of Thrones seasons one to four is almost perfect television. It's fucking fantastic. Characters are well written, well defines, the world building is amazing and everything like that.

Like I said, seasons one to four, I didn't really have any emotional attachment to anything. It's literally George Aramarton's baby at that point. He did everything at that point. No, I agree. So how do you, what, how do you get more attached when fucking HBO takes over with their generic writers? Because one thing that I fucking love,

one aspect I love in any media is when you have different kind of, different kind of aspects and cultures clashing together, right? That's kind of like why I'm invested in the MCU where you have, you know, wizards and superheroes and now, you know, fucking cosmic god people all existing within the same universe. And that's kind of, that's, because that's what drew me

into Game of Thrones originally. And what I fucking, my favorite parts of Game of Thrones was in the later seasons when you finally saw these different worlds that have been built up in seasons one, two, and three and four and stuff like that. You finally saw all these worlds kind of colliding in together and having some really, really cool moments. Is the writing as good?

Fuck no, okay? I will fully admit the writing is not as good, but was it fucking badass seeing the Dothraki riding over a hill with a fucking dragon, like fucking burning the Lannisters? Hell yeah, that was bad fucking ass. And I will, like, defend that shit. I think it built it up so well.

and then just fucking unraveled the coil and then just threw a bunch of cool battles at us to distract our pretty little brain. I think it squanded everything. It built up. I think it was about politics and then it suddenly became about Ed Sheeran and shitty battles and just brushing it.

No, I would totally agree. It was, Seasons, Game of Thrones was two completely different shows. I mean, I fully admit, it was two completely different shows. And technically I should out of like every bone in my body think that the first four seasons are the better ones. But I'm following my heart.

And my heart says, cool dragons for burning stuff. Look at the dragons burning the ice zombies. Isn't that so cool? If you want to the Isakai gone, just go on your fucking Issaquay, right? Yes, okay, yes, okay. Get the fuck out of here with this.

This shit take. Awful. I actually shit take. When do you, okay, when do you think, Game of Thrones got bad. Season five. Yeah, season five, so it started falter.

What was, what happened in season five again? I felt like season five. I can't remember exactly, but I do remember, because I had been watching Game of Thrones Weekly since season three, season three was amazing, season four was just fucking God tier.

Yeah. One of the most iconic moments in the series. It was like hidden- Season four, season three. Season four as well. Had the one fight between the two people. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I love how he just fully understood.

You know, you know, it's very. That scene, I remember that scene actually gave me PTSD. What? Yeah. How? Seeing a character, and this happens a lot by the way, but there's one particular scene where you saw a character that you really liked and you got emotionally attached to, seeing them like get killed off in such a gruesome way,

it just actually gave me like an emotional, like, guttural reaction. Yeah, me too. Yeah. It was- Isn't that a good thing though? It was horrible. No, that's why it's good though. Yeah, I know, I know.

It managed to get that emotion out of you. Yeah, I totally agree. It was great. Except the thing I don't do that. Yeah. I don't know, man. There are a couple of characters who died in the seems to where I'm just like, what the fuck.

And that doesn't fucking do it again. Yeah. And then like, you know, end of season three as well, what happened at the end of season three? One of the most-famous is one of the most iconic TV moments of all the time. Yes. You know, you know, you know, you've heard of it.

I don't know, you have heard of it. Yes. I dead-ass don't know anything about Game of Thrones. The only thing I know about Game of Thrones is it's Lord of the Rings with Tits. Yeah. Like, like, that's what people have told me. Like, people are dumb.

Yeah. Like I said. I'm like, you sold me. Like I said, perfect television. But, no, dragons and stuff, man. What is next on your list? I'm not entertaining this buffoonery anymore. Okay, what's the good place?

I don't know. The good place is a pretty recent one. The good place is a pretty recent one. I feel like I've seen this poster. If you've gone on Netflix, you've seen this. Yeah, yeah. They pushed it down everyone's thought. Yeah, this is a Netflix show.

Again, only four seasons. It passes itself off as a comedy. But I don't really think it's a comedy. So the whole premise of The Good Place is, you know, the Good Place is an analogy for heaven, of course. Okay, so all of these people have died and gone to heaven. Except for Kristen Bell, who is, is the main character in the good place.

She wakes up in heaven. Right. But when they tell her, like when I talk about her life story and identity and the person she was and everything she did on earth, she realizes that she's up in heaven by mistake. And the whole premise initially

is her trying to convince everyone that yes, she is this person who they all believe her to be. And she is a good person that belongs in heaven, right? And that's how the premise of the story, you know, starts off. And honestly, like, I, the good place started off as a show that was just, you know, I just put on in the background as background noise.

I was like, this isn't bad, but this is like good enough where I'm like, I can have it on the background just as white noise to be like, oh, it's, it's all right. It's all right. It's a, I like the concept of like them going up to heaven and everything like that. It was like a nice little chemistry between all the characters and everything like that. It was okay. And then without spoiling what happens, a big twist happens at the end of the first season

that I did not know that it was gonna be that kind of show where it turned the good place into just like a kind of like wacky sitcom comedy into these characters have a motive and they're going to try and to achieve something and they have an end goal and you get to see not only the character progression but it kind of just becomes an entire adventure.

It's kind of like BoJack, right? like lulls you in with the funny, he-he-hannamals, and then just hits you with the depression. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. But yeah, one, one thing I fucking loved about the good place is one, like, it is a whole complete story, right? When you think of most sitcoms, sitcoms don't really have stories. You know what I mean?

Cicoms are just, okay, you know, you're... Self-contained. It's kind of like, oh, which character's gonna get with which character? Oh, is Rachel gonna get with Ross? Oh, if Rachel got with Ross, by the way, end of friends, bye-bye! I really hope that wasn't.

I hope nobody cared about that spoiler. To be fair, I was close to putting friends on my. That's a good show. But the point is there isn't really an ongoing story with it. This one had comedic moments, right? But what really shines in my eyes is the ongoing story. And within this ongoing story, it tackles so many issues about the afterlife, about religion, about morals.

And it's one of those shows where you get, You get in on the laughs and you say Bojack was about depression. I was surprised didn't put Bojack on, by the way. I thought you would. I thought someone would put Bojack. Yeah. I don't know. I didn't, you know, I feel like everything's been said about it.

Yeah. Yeah. But like the good place is one of those shows where you end and it's just like such a, it leaves you with like such a warm feeling where it feels like. It's wholesome. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, I've watched it through osmosis. It's not just, it's not just wholesome, but it gives you like a good, life message at the end of it.

And you feel like, damn, you know, get. So the opposite of Bojack. The literal, the literal opposite of Bojack. There are two sides of the coin. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Where, you know, you leave the end of good place and I've never just like, I've never cried over. Do you leave in a good place?

Do I believe in a good place? Do you leave in a good place? Do you leave in a good place? Well, I won't spoil what the ending of good place is. Thank you. But, you know, it's rare. They all go to hell. It's rare that I cry over a sitcom.

Okay, but the sick, the good place is the only comedy that's ever made me cry at the end of it, just because seeing these characters come to the end of their journey, their adventure, and just seeing how each character story ended was just so gratifying and I was just genuinely happy for everyone in the story. Amazing fucking show.

All right. Season one, just wait till the end of season one. Uh, yeah. What do you want to talk about next? Let's do Black Mirror. Yeah. Black Mirror. Okay.

Why Black Mirror? Why Black Mirror? Because... Okay, before we start talking about Black Mirror. Do you think if, let's say, for example, like, Australia, Game of Ferens has three banger seasons and like three dog shit seasons that it kind of levels it out? Because Black Mirror is that? Well, actually, before the later seasons.

Fuck. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I was about to go bald from the rage. It's great because I have bad enough taste that that would be actually believable. No, I would believe if you said that.

No, like, okay. The British ones are good. When it was in our control, it was amazing. Three was actually pretty good as well. I will say three. Three is good. I think I only watched up until three. Well, I mean, season one and two,

I mean, season two is just, yeah, it's fantastic. White Christmas? Christmas. Yeah, I mean, I think season one and two and half of the season three is like, that's all the Black Mirror that exists in my mind. But to me, Black Mirror is everything

that I look for in a TV show. And I think part of that is because I just like how much I respect the original creator of Black Mirror. We know you, yeah. Charlie Brooker. Charlie Brooker. Yeah, one of my biggest influences of all time. Seeing him go from like a TV show

where he basically does what I'm, I do and review movies and events and stuff like that. Go and see him do Black Mirror was just such a. I actually didn't know what was by him. Huh? I actually didn't know was by Charlie Morgan. You didn't, you know. Now you know.

He's just incredibly fucking talented. And just seeing the fucking wild ass ideas that Black Mirror had in season one and two and three. I mean, it kind of just, it's so like accurate that it kind of mirrors a lot of things that have happened post the, post-release, right? There's a reason why, like, Black Mirror

is almost like in our vocabulary with explaining, like, tech that scares us. Oh, yeah. Everything is described and it's fucking annoying, but anything that is scary in tech, oh, that's very Black Mirror-Bes. It's one of the most, like, perfect commentaries, I think, of this generation.

Basically, it's, yeah. It's such a perfect meta commentary on just the world in general as it is now. I use meta right this time. But, yeah, I don't, I don't really know what else I can say about it. I feel like anything to meant, like tech that scares you, that should be it, watch it, don't look anything up.

Don't not watch anything. Just go into it as lines as you can. You'll have a great time. Yeah, because if I didn't put Black Mirror on, it's like I think Charlie Booker took such inspiration from Twilight Zone, right? Because that's the only other like goat anthology series that I can think of.

Goat and Follogy. I love goats. Cothology. Did they use goats right there? Goetthology, that makes sense. Yeah, because like it's, I actually really, really fucking love anthology series. Oh yeah, when it's done, right?

Like I love death and robots. Love death and robots. Fucking fan. Can we just, I should have put love death and robots. Can we talk about love death and robots for a bit? Because you need to watch Love Death and Robots. I think we actually spoke about it on a podcast not too long ago.

Did we? Yeah, we definitely recommended it. Because it's so, uh, because we all watched season three. Oh, yeah, I feel like we did. We and Joe watched season three and we talked about it. Oh, okay. We've talked about too much TV. No, I mean, Love Death and Robots, season three,

Banga, season one, banga, season two, you know. Yeah. Has its sparks. Yeah, yeah. Season three is really fucking. Season three is great. Yeah, I just love seeing, the thing, the thing I love about anthology series is just seeing so many different, like, ideas.

It's experimented. Put into one, it's so experimental, you know. This is literally the opposite of a show like, you know, breaking bad, you know, where it's just like, this is just so many different ideas that are packed into different shows. And it doesn't need to be a 10 out 10 banger every time, Sometimes you have like a little bit of lull,

but what I appreciate always in an anthology series is that someone has something to say and they have... It's always fresh. Yeah, and they have one chance to say it. And so it's always like, it's always interesting to me. Especially when they have like, when they have like different directors or different cinematographers for episodes

and get a completely unique feel to each one. Oh, yeah, exactly. I mean like Black Mirror has some really iconic episodes that I think are like must watches. Yeah. Like White Christmas being one of them. Like just amazing. Yeah.

The fucking, my favorite, episode of Black Mirror is probably like the American Idol parody one. The- Oh. Oh. That was in season two, I believe. Yeah. Fuck, I forgot the name of that episode. I forgot the name of the episode.

It's good. But I like that one as well with like the wife who like gets the husband AI. Yeah. Oh no, she gets the dead husband and the husband dies. She's got a husband like doll. Yeah, that's it. It gets her like memories and be, fucking creepy. And he like slowly learns like the past memories.

Yeah, that one's creepy. I can see Japan doing that. Is that scary? Is that scary that I see Japan doing that? No, absolutely. That's so black mirror. The sex stories be like. So you have three left.

Which one do you wanna talk about? All right, let's go with always Sunny first. I mean, the go. Literally the ghost. Actually the go. I feel like Sunny is like the most American comedy sitcom and Pete Shares the most British. Yeah, yeah.

Definitely. Or you wouldn't say Big Bang theory, Connor? No. You wouldn't say Big Bang theory? You wouldn't say how I met your mom? No. Knock him in the middle. Well, I've realized, like, watching things like always sunny

and a peep show and everything like that. Maybe I just like to see awful people do awful things. Oh, 100%. It's just like, are awful people just funny? Yeah, exactly. I mean, that's essentially what, like, people show is not to boil it down and really like, dilute it, but like, yeah,

it's the same awful people, but just British version. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And it's just like a lot of, a lot of, let's say, peep show storyline, I could easily see happening in Always Sunny, but just like the dynamic would be completely different. You know what I mean? Where Always Sunny, again, is just the five most awful people

in this world, just doing awful things and having awful fucking ideas and trying to like win in this world. It's one of the funniest sitcoms and long running for a reason. Yeah, the only reason I think it's kind of hard to get into is the first season, first four seasons, we're in like a four by three aspect ratio and look a bit weird.

Oh, really? I don't know why. Also, I think the first season is good, but the second season is when they introduced Danny DeVito. Second season is when it's a good show to a fucking great show. Because I think Danny DeVito adds so much to their chemistry. And what I love about Always Sunny is,

if you look at like any of the outtakes and everything like that, is that you can tell that so much of this is just fucking improv. Right, there are so many lines that Always Sunny that you're like, where the fuck did this come from? And you know that they just fucking made it up on the spot. It's so good though. It's so weird.

I don't think I've actually sat down and watched like a full episode. Oh my God, it's so funny. So, I've seen so many clips. Because it's so fucking iconic and funny. There's like, there's so many like, I thought about putting this, but it felt so wrong in no sense

because I'm like, I think this is my favorite, but there's so many American sitcoms that are in like occupy the same space in my mind, like arrest of development, not the new season. It's just really fucking funny. Yeah. What's some other really good American sitcoms that are very adult humor

that are really well written? Community is really good as well. Curbureeer enthusiasm. Curb your enthusiasm is really good as well. Yeah. I think Sonny is like the best. It's the best out of all of them for me. Yeah, I don't know.

It's just. Gonna be sad when it ends. Gonna be really sad. I'm gonna be really sad. I'm surprised that it's gone on for this long, honestly. Well, they renewed it for like, what, two more seasons, I think at least. So how many seasons is there?

Yeah. Do I think they just did 11 or 10? Yeah. So, I can't remember. So many fucking good memeble moments as well. You dumb, bitch. I love that one. Yeah.

And it's just like, sometimes you have, you have a moment where you're watching these people do these awful things and you're just like, fuck, do I kind of relate to what one of the characters are saying? Because it's, like, that's the problem is it, it's meant to be characters that you're not remotely like, but I love the audience, like, I actually like this guy.

No, no, no, you're not supposed to like them, you're like, fuck, I can actually, like kind of, kind of, I actually kinda like them and it's just like, it's so, it's so awful that it's like, fucking amazing. I don't know, fucking. You have to watch it. I will, I will. Just, just watch always, sony.

You can watch any episodes out of context, and I, I think you'll be alright. But I think that's the thing. It's like I've only seen clips out of context and it's still funny. Yeah, exactly. Because I think all they do is just like, what would happen if we just put these four, five characters

into a situation? And then they just like let the characters act out of the situation. Kind of feels like an improv class in some ways, right? But because they work together so long, they kind of like know each other's beats and everything like that. Like I do not know how they film some of this without fucking laughing.

All right. Okay. Two left. What are you going for? Let's do shi love. I mean, I love this series. I thought about putting it on, but I was like, I don't know, is it?

Because it's too good. It's too good. You know how like you said Breaking Bad is too polished? Like this is the most polished and clean TV show that is just un-arguably amazing. I agree. It's just perfect. When I first saw this, and I haven't seen this,

but when I first saw pictures of this, I thought it was like a documentary series. No. Yeah. I mean, it really, yeah. I mean, it's not a documentary series, but obviously based on real events.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It is, it is very, very good. It's, it's one of those stories. Don't want to spoil Chernobyl for you by that. Oh shit, what happened? It's a bit of a nuclear now. Bro, when they were writing Shinobu in real life, bro,

they fucking knew what they were doing. They would make some great television, man. But what I love about Shinobu, obviously it's based on real life, but it's one of those stories that happen in real life that is so fucking insane that it's, you kind of watch this and you're like, wow, this is an insane story. Oh, wait. This actually fucking happened.

Reality, strange is and fiction. Yeah, you can't actually believe that some of the shit that happened in Chernobyl actually happened here. And yeah, it's just, like I said, it's just such a perfectly crafted TV show. I think the reason I've really liked Chernobyl is because it's only like, it's a miniseries.

It's so, so short. Yeah, like, how many episodes is it? Five, six, not much. Four or five. Yeah, it might even be four. Oh, wow. It is not much. You can watch it in a day or two,

two evenings. It is just amazing. You will not regret it. I haven't met a single person who watched this TV show and didn't sing its praises. Because like the thing I loved about it is that one thing that I normally don't like about,

let's say biopics or you know, shows about real life events is that there's nothing to keep me coming back because I already know the ending. Because it happened, right? Yeah, well, it's the journey. But yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, like it's, it is, about the journey, you're right,

but sometimes my brain, like, my brain is, like, I get that, I get that. I need something to keep me coming back every week. Yes. But I think with biopics, what's so, like, interesting and unique about them is that you can give a lot more context in a human sense to the events

and the characters involved in a sense. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I also think that's the reason why a lot of biopics are just movies. Yeah, right? Because it's just like one clean package because you know what's gonna happen most of the time, right? But what, what, like, drew me into Shinobal immediately

and kept me going to the end that made me appreciate the journey because the journey was amazing, but the one thing I think it did perfectly was it set up this mystery, right? So this power plant, spoilers, this power plant basically explodes in Ukraine, right?

Oh, fucking Al-Gar. I was a small Chernobyl for it. It's only the most devastating nuclear disaster in history. And within like the first episode, they set up this concept of this is impossible. It is impossible for a nuclear explosion to happen on this scale. It is so, impossible that when it actually exploded, people didn't even believe that, you know, it was

because of the nuclear reactor. Right, right, right. That's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, the, uh, higher ups back then where, where, where they were sending people to check on the nuclear reactor to check on what caused this explosion. And people were like, oh, there's fucking bits of nuclear debris everywhere. And they were like, I don't believe you. Go check yourself. And, and so, and so, of course, everyone who checked would, would, would die. Yeah, because because they would be exposed. exposed to a lethal, a lethal dose of radiation. Yeah. And so it sets off this mystery.

And that mystery, like, continues throughout the entire series. And that's what kept me coming back was just not only just to see what happened, but there was this mystery that I wanted to see how they resolved this. Because I genuinely didn't know. And I genuinely wanted to know how something impossible could happen. I feel Chernobyl, the Chernobyl event is one of those things where everyone knows the name of it and everyone knows what happened, but very few people actually know how it happened. How or why?

Yeah, how are why, right? It's also really eerie the series. Like, it's always really, like, slow, like, kind of violin, eerie music that creeps in. At no point is it even remotely happy. It's, like, depressing all the way through. Yeah. And, like, the cinematography as well, and this isn't so.

Fucking fantastic. It is stunning. Yeah. Like, watching this is just a treat. All of the actors are amazing. Yeah. I think the only thing that could do better is that it could be, like, maybe it's like a bunch of British actors.

So it could be like Russian to make it a little bit more believable. I didn't really need it. I felt like it was just great. Like, you know, it was good. It was just like, and I think, I think Chernobyl has made, like, by itself, made me just afraid of just the sound of a Geiger counter. Like the way they use the Geiger counter sounds,

you know, it's literally like scarier than a horror movie. Yeah, right? That is a horror movie. Yeah, exactly. Where there's, I think there's a scene where these guys are like in like the sewer or something, trying to figure out. where how to get in this nuclear power plant.

From the bottom up. Yeah, from the bottom up, right? And you see, you just hear the Geiger counter and all you hear is the Geiger counter. And then since they're wearing like full suits, you don't hear them say anything. You just hear the breathing and the Geiger counter. And with those two elements alone,

they're able to create such a fucking tense and terrifying atmosphere. And it's just, it's just, fuck, it's insane, amazing television. You will not regret it. And I just finally. Finally. Justice League. I get to talk about Justice League.

Did not expect this on it. No. I was kind of expecting you, considering you are like a big MCU guy? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I mean, it's not MCU though. It's not like that same vibe, you know, same vibe. Yeah, I mean, this series is a banger. I will admit, this straight up is a bang. You know, I don't think I ever watched this.

Dude, this shit, when every got came on TV, felt like a fucking treat, it was never on. It was fucking amazing. And I agree, it was never on TV, but every time it did come on in the UK, I watched the shit out of this, right? And like, I got a confession. I'm like not a massive fan of like the DC superheroes,

you know. They're a Marvel-Guzzling comic sucker. I'm not even like a, I wasn't a fan of like the, actually, no, I was. Yeah, you're a, you're a fan boy. All right, all right. You know, I grew up with like the Spider-Man cartoon. Go on, go on.

You literally alluded the last season, last couple of seasons of came with throws to the MCU earlier. Because like, I don't know why. I just always thought like the DC characters were just kind of boring, you know. Superman was kind of just. Superman is boring.

Superman's boring, Wonder Woman's boring. Superman's just a dude. Green Lantern is like who? Green Lantern's, who? Batman's obviously goaded. Flash is okay. Like in most iteration of Batman,

I was just like, this is kind of just boring, he's just like, he's edgy, he's dark, he's, you know. He's good in this. That's why. The reason I fucking love, this Justice League is every character who I normally hate in their own individual media,

every character in this is a fucking banger. Like they made Batman, like Batman by himself, I never found interesting. Batman in a squad of superheroes where everyone's got fucking super bowels and yet Batman's the most badass out of all of this group. Fuck yes, okay, I became a Batman simp

because of the Justice League. Because of the Justice League cartoon. And also like, I think like Superman is a way more interesting character in here in most of the films I've seen and portrayed because he's just like, what I love about him here is that he feels like the father of the group.

You know, he really cares about everyone deeply. And like he's, he's like, he's, Batman's like the rogue, right, in this group, but he's still like really, really good friends with Batman as well. And you can see a lot of, a lot of the chemistry between the group

really grow and develop as characters as from the series beginning to the series end. Because I remember, but I was like, I really liked the Justice League cartoon and I was like, was that a kid thing? Was that a kid thing? Yeah, was I was a dumb kid. And I remember re-watching it like two, three years ago.

So it was actually pretty recent. I'm re-watching like a few seasons. I'm like, damn, this is a genuinely good show. And I think it's like my favorite superhero cartoon show that I remember growing up. I mean, yeah, it's other than that. Yeah. There's teen titans.

Everyone talks about Batman. Yeah, everyone talks about Batman. Everyone talks about Batman. The Batman is actually really, okay, Batman's kind of good at there actually. The Batman TV series? Yeah, the Batman, the animated TV series. Mark Hamel.

Yeah, I know it's Mark Hamel, but yeah. I, I, I way prefer Justice League just because I love. I think it's valid. Yeah, I love the group dynamic and it was one of those shows where you watch this and you see the modern iteration of Justice League and you're like, man, what fucking went wrong? You had a, you had the perfect template right there, right there,

Wow. Yeah, the Flash. I'd never heard of the Flash before and I fucking love that he was kind of like the wild, wacky kids in this one. Yeah. Yeah, fucking every, every character in Justice League is.

I don't even remember the names of the other ones. I can't remember the birdish woman. I can't remember. A Hawk Girl? A Hort Girl. I never liked Hulk Girl. That doesn't sound like a real. I don't know.

They gave all, back then, because obviously like the fucking 1950s, whenever they made these comments, they gave all the shit powers to the girls. Is Moon Knight one of them? No, that's Marlowe. That's Marble. But actually one of my favorite arcs involved,

like, Hawke Girl, which is where basically, I really, is it a hawk girl, or am I just like making shit out? I really hope it is. It's a girl and she's a hawk. But it's when her species actually like invades Earth, right? That's one of my favorite movie arcs, so Justice League's arc where her entire species

invades Earth and basically just takes over and creates this dystopian society that's the Justice League have to overthrow. I'm gladly accept our Bird Overlords. That sounds hot. The bird demic. Cause I say bird girl and I'm just like, wait, isn't that just like bird girl?

Isn't that just like bird guy from a fucking Rick and Morty? I really hope. What's her name? It's Hawkego. That just sounds like a stupid name. Hawkeld doesn't sound real. Batman, Hawk girl. I don't know, Batman sounds way cooler than Hawk girl.

I don't know why. It does. Maybe because I got a picture of Batman in my head just being badass. Who's my fault? Maybe I'm the problem here. Doesn't sound real. It does.

Have you seen that edit where they take the Batman theme and then they edit out the bat in it? So it's just, man, man. I need to, man, man. I need to hear that. It's such a stupid edit, but I just, I don't know why it's just so fucking.

Why is that, why did that pop in your mind? I don't know, I don't. It's funniest thing I've heard all there. I mean, good text they're gone, I think, overall. Yeah. I mean, I- Except for you're taking Game of Thrones, you're actually dive all.

I mean, I already wanna see, like, new shows. You'll like Chernobyl. Yeah, I was always interested and I really wanna watch it. But like, good place sounds good as well. Honestly, if I could recommend one show that's like a show that jails with me the most on this one,

probably be good place. Like, yeah, Shinobo, Shinnobo, I think is the best show out of this. But depressing. Technically, the good place, I just like, it was such a surprise to me. I didn't, expect it to be that good.

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