Trash Taste Podcast - Proving We Are TRULY Trash Men | Trash Taste #96

Episode Date: April 22, 2022

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I gotta say you kinda look like fucking Rocky Balboa like about to like run up those steps right now. It's a very, it's a very sports like jumper. Is it? It does look like a, like the stereotypical, I'm about to the montage. I walked in the office and Malene called me a fuck boy.

And I don't know if I appreciated that. Because of short hair, no one. It's the short hair beanie in the rings, I don't know. You shaved your facial hair? Yeah, we all did. Yeah, we all did. For the charity stream that we just finished. gonna be like, oh my god, this episode's so,

they recorded this so long ago. Yeah, yeah, I know. Really, really dating ourselves, so you're like, yeah, we just recorded the charity stream, which was, for you guys was like a month ago. Yeah, for us it was two days ago. He's a month and a half ago, right?

Oh, more than that, yeah. Yeah, we're trying to get ahead before we fly off once again. But yeah, if you guys didn't know about it, we just finished a 24-hour charity stream for Doctors Without Borders, and it was extremely successful. Yeah, I was very surprised. We raised 176, but we haven't added the amounts.

About 180, I think, total. About 180 adding everything that we collected in total. That's nuts. Which is absolutely fucking nuts. I don't know what we expected out of this charity stream. There was a part of me when we were deciding, okay, what are we gonna make our goal? And someone was like, 100,000.

I was like, in 24, that's a lot of money, yeah, yeah. Maybe if we were like doing a week long sub-a-thon, Yeah, or something like that. Cause I don't know, I only did one charity stream once, like years and years ago with Arkien, like we did not raise nearly that much money. So I think in the back of my head, I had that as my benchmark.

So when I heard 100,000, I was like, dude, we're not fucking PewDie Pie or Jack Septic Island, we're not gonna hit those numbers. Turns out, we kind of did because we were, we were like number one on Twitch for like that night. Yeah, yeah, I think we peaked at 53,000 viewers, which is in, P-B, yeah, personal best.

That's definitely the most I've been more. Oh, it's definitely the most I've had, yeah. Definitely, like, well, I'm not even the streamer. So that's definitely the most I've been a part of. It's just ridiculous. But how was the experience for you boys? How, you know what? Even though I went into it with like zero sleep,

it was probably the most fun stream I've ever, like, I would absolutely do that again. Part of me is just like, I would absolutely do that again. Not anytime, Yeah, part of me is just like, man, I remember those last six hours. That was, yeah. I'll do it again once I forget about how hard the last six hours, when I'm like, yeah, this is fine.

I mean, at least you, at least I had you guys and like Chris and like mouse there because like if I had done it by myself, I would not have lasted like 10 hours. No, like I was, I remember the last two, three hours. I was just running on complete autopilot. You know when you're just using like the part of your brain that isn't even thinking? Yeah.

like habits you've built up. That was just me. I was just like, I saw bits and pieces of the vaude where you're just like you alone on the couch and you're just like, thank you for the $20 donation. It kinda got to a point where I was just like questioning my own insanity.

Like, like because it was just- Sanity? Sanity. Yeah, insanity. Questioning my own sanity. Questioning my own sanity. My favorite clip though is where you guys, where you two were on the couch and you just started going,

well, it's, oh. All the boys. I was over all the boys. And then Gant, in the most unenthusiastic way, goes, get hype guys. It's like the most not hype, get hype guys I've ever heard. It just had such like house party vibe. It's just like when you stay up too late

and that there's one, that one guy that just wouldn't leave. Yeah. Yeah, that was, that was exactly what it felt like, where I'm just like, I need to go to bed. Gond is that one guy who doesn't leave. Yeah, you are. You are. You are, like, at every fucking, like, all night karaoke,

Gant is the last guy. I mean, I was last guy on the stream as well. I'm just like, you guys, you boys, I mean, not, this wasn't the competition, obviously, obviously, but I was anyone to stay awake. I know, no, right? If it was Connor that was in your position, he would have been like, weak, you're all weak.

I won that competition, it was me. I carried. I think, I think, cause I knew you guys are there and it was like, so I can sleep, that I was like, I will. Yeah. But I think if it was just me alone, I would have to, I mean, I would have just,

oh yeah, of course. And just been, more miserable. But yeah, I mean, I mean, like, the reason I didn't sleep was because I knew as soon as I closed my eyes, they were not like, go and, I could not go to sleep and come back up

to, like, stream again. Yeah, no, go. They couldn't stop yawning. I just, I just looked horrible. Like, I, I remember the last 30 minutes when I came back, I looked half dead. Yeah. And I was like, oh, good, oh, God. I think I used all my energy holding in the laughs.

Yeah, like, I used to add an same, I used so much energy not saying anything during like the Try Not to Laugh segment. That took a lot more energy than I thought it did. It actually took more energy than doing the quiz, talking or just like hanging out. Also, not to mention that I think we like greatly overestimated how much energy we were going to have

because we had like a schedule, like a preemptive schedule that staff made. And we probably did maybe 40% of what was originally scheduled. Yeah. I mean, it was it was a few things because obviously Chris was scheduled for two hours. Yeah. Stayed for six.

hours, which I'm not, I'm not complaining. He was obviously having fun. Yeah. But then we also had like a bunch of, a bunch of things that we were meant to be doing with Iron Mouse, but by the time Chris left and Mouse came on, it was just, we were so out of energy that we can only manage talking right now.

Yeah, definitely. How did you guys manage to recover afterwards? Would you recover easily? I mean, recover is a strong word. I went home and like, weirdly enough, I think because I was kind of like reliving the most, when I was on the train right home. So by the time I got home, I was like wide awake

for some reason. And then I was doing a little bit of work and then my body was just like, I don't think so. And I just, fuck, I literally passed out on my desk. Oh my God, for like an hour. I was just like, okay, I need to go to bed. And then I slept for like 14 hours, I think.

Oh my God. And then I just completely fucked my sleep schedule for the next day. Yeah, I don't know, like my body's so weird after a new one nighter. I hate to, I absolutely fucking hate it. Because like, during the stream, I'm like,

I'm going to, I'm going to pass out. As, as it's well documented that, how close we were to passing out. And so I remember, the stream finishes, I don't not even remember saying like, goodbye to anyone in the office, even though I know we were just like, hey, congratulations.

And they were like, see you on, see you on Tuesday, see you in like two days or whatever. I think I said see you on Tuesday, but I think I just left, as well. I don't know if I, it seemed like I was rude or something. I just, I need to go to my, So rude, girl. Yeah, so rude.

I remember like going to my bed being like, finally, I've stayed up all night for this. Didn't nap, didn't sleep, I'm going to finally go to sleep. Go my bed and my body's just like, nope, you don't sleep now. You stay, you stay awake. You don't need sleep. It is sunshine now. So how long did you stay awake till?

I stay up for like an extra like, it took me three hours to get to a point where I could sleep. And then I slept for- 3pm, 4 p.m. Yeah, that was around where I passed out. I slept for two hours. And so I was just, my day was like just fucked, I guess. When did you go to bed bed then?

Um, like two in the morning. Oh my god, my god. But then I did sleep for like 16 hours. So that's- Wait, so you work up like 4 p.m. the next day? Yeah. Oh my god, gone. That's why like, I woke up and I, I woke up to like Conno stream and Jump King.

I was just like, fuck, say. How are these boys like awake and streaming right now? I'm like fighting for my life. On Sunday I went home and then I had like three hours sleep. And then I went out for some drinks and a meal. How the fuck? I was like fine. How?

How? And then I got tired at around 10 p.m. So I went home. And then I slept, woke up early and played Jump King. But I finished it. You finished it? Yeah, you both finished it. I finally finished Babe with the Ascension.

Yeah. It's just like the worst thing ever. I don't ever want to do it ever again. Finally finished the base game. That was a, when are you going to do the DLC, joy? You know what talks like, at the end of that stream, I was like, you can't pay me to play the DLC. I want my happiness back in my life.

But then the moment I turned off the stream, I was like, fuck, I can't want to keep playing. Yeah, because you're like, you're like, but there's more. Yeah, because it was the fact that there was so much encouragement online when I posted my time and people were like, dude, you're actually cracked and I was like, you know what? Maybe I am.

Give me a little more praise. Yeah, yeah, the game has a way of humbling you. Because I thought the same thing when I did like the third DLC, I'm cracked, you know, I'll be able to do this new one. I was like, I was actually like worried. I was like, what if I like beat this the RC too fast? Too fast.

And it's like not a good stream art. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then like the first eight hours of playing it, I was like, oh no, oh no, this is hard. This is really hard. And it's gonna be 48 hours to beat the DLC, the fan made DLC. But now I know what it feels like to be an alpha gamer.

Yeah. And now I can finally say, hey, God, when are you finishing? Junk King, bro? I will, I'll do it, guy. I'll fucking feel like, you know, fucking that scene in fucking My Hero Academia where like, all my, it's just pointing at you. So it's your turn now.

It's your to my sake, oh my. You gotta do it. I'm just here watching on TV. I'm not even like involved and here you are pointing at me being like it's your turn. You've done half of this, so you have to do the other half. Is it half of it? Is it a half of it?

Nah, Garne got to maybe like 40%. Yeah, I got, where did you get to? I can't remember. He got to the fucking, uh, after the, no, he got, not even there. Like before that, the town in the sky. Bargendburg. I mean, I will finish it just because I knew

it's like one thing when I started it and I was just like, it's, I have the same inkling feeling in me where I just doesn't, it doesn't feel comfortable until I'm finished it. Take your time on you, yeah, yeah, it's been a few weeks since you last, you're gonna get rusty, you'll stop from zero again. I'll be fine, I'll be fine, it'll be like pure muscle memory.

Yeah, it'd be like you never left. It's gonna be like dementia the game with God. Every time he goes back to it, he's like, oh, I gotta learn this section again. Oh, I'll be like 30, like, I played through would be like 50 hours or something, spread between an entire year. If anything you now have someone else to compare yourself to,

and that's Malene, because she also started it as well. Oh my God. And that stream last night was hilarious. I saw Moodytun started it as well. Yeah, Mootan started it. Jesus Christ, it's like a virus. But don't worry, if you thought, look, like, Maylene just got to the bottom of the sewers

and it took a couple of hours to get there. I just think it's like one of the best games to stream. It's just so, it's so intuitive. There's no explanation. You know, like some games is like power ups, level ups, you know, and then there's like, oh, you can unlock this thing. And then everyone's like, oh, what's going on? But Jump King is literally just, you can see.

One mechanic. You jump. One button. You understand immediately from watching that they're trying to go up and when they fall, you're like, oh, I get it. This is fun to watch. It's also just a pretty game. It's a really pretty game.

Yeah, I love the aesthetic. I will say, you know, I thought you're bullshitting when you said, oh, it's, it's a fun game, but no, it is. I do actually genuinely think it's a fun game. There's a high that you get when you reach, like, your new personal best. You know what I mean? And you're like, damn.

You're like, this is a good feeling. And then that lasts for like three seconds before you like fall for the first time. You're like, oh. I know we spoke on Jeremy King so much on this podcast now. It's like taken over my life, but on the first map there's like a very solid checkpoint.

When you get to that, you feel like, I can do this. The 70% one, right? Yeah. Yeah, when you get to the church. The church. Yeah. And then you're like, oh my God, I can do this. Yeah.

That's when I was like, all right, I got this. You got this king. Yeah, yeah, you can do it then. If you can get that, you can do it easily. So, uh, DLC for me is a, is a hard maybe. No, you should do it. I think, I think I want to like, maybe put in a couple of like other games

that I've been wanting to play. Hard maybe. It's a hard maybe. It's a hard maybe. Joey, like, being like, Joey won't ever commit to anything. No, maybe is about the best job. Yeah.

You know, it's better than arcane. Yeah. Well, we'll fly out of same. Maybe is, maybe, maybe is like a, I am committed to my nutrition. I could be yes, it could be no. I am firmly planted. Maybe.

That's a hard maybe, no. That's a hard maybe. My ass is firmly planted on the fence. Like, was your viewership higher than normal when you were doing Jump King? Oh yeah, yeah, for sure. For sure. But you know, it's like what do I, what do I prioritize?

A clout or happiness? It's a hard choice for every YouTube. You can have both. I'm just waiting for when the Kirby game comes out, dude. That's when real happiness comes up. I just, I play games now, like, when I'm playing like, when I play Pokemon Arsix, I'm like, there's just not enough challenge.

Even though they're waltz, they're literally wots. Like, they definitely was, do it. But the thing was is that I never once thought for a moment, I wasn't gonna be able to do it. Whereas Jump King has that thing where it's like, I don't know if you can do it, man. Wait, but you did the, you did that last fight, right? The Volo, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And you struggled a lot with it. I did, but like at no point did I ever feel like, this is too hard. Really? Yeah, because like, to me, like, that was easily the hardest in-game Pokemon fight. It is, it is. Even then, I, like, there's no point

by doing it where I'm like, I don't know if I can do this, man. Like, I just felt like, I just gotta grind a little bit more. I don't know, man. Arseus was hard as fuck. Okay, yeah, that man. Yeah, I wanna see you do that.

Where it was like, New Bay Plus, when I was playing that game of Jump Kings, the second map. Yeah. There was like, I did it over three streams, so one, one stream, second stream, third stream. The second stream after it, and I went to bed, I had like anxiety.

I was like, what if I just like can't do it? What if I can't do it? Yeah. Like, I'm never gonna be able to forget this if I can't do it. And then I woke up the next day, just bossed it, just destroyed it. Right, right, wow.

Damn. I think you have an addiction. I do, yeah. That's definitely an addiction, yeah. Because, you know, there's been like, I kind of got out of like multiplayer games, that was kind of where I got the kick from beating other people, but you know, there's a hard ceiling in multiplayer games

the way you're like, if I wanna be able to improve at this game, I have to put an episode amount of hours in. Right. Yeah. Consistently. Yeah. Wait, but is 45 hours in one John King map, not an absurd amount of time.

What is a lot? You could finish 13 Centals that time. Think about it. Think about it. An FPS, first person shoot a multiplayer game, whatever. Yeah. 45 hours is nothing. That's true. That's absolutely nothing.

You're competing against people who do 45 hours a week. Yeah. How many hours have you put into all of Jump King right now? A hundred something? That's quite a lot. Yeah, that's a persona play. That's a persona way through it. I have like over a thousand probably.

Yeah, that's true. Like it's, and even then like, I'm, I'm just like, I got to master once, and that was the, that was like, that was me going insane grindy. Well, why don't you get into more like challenging games then? Because you said you don't really play like the soul's type games or like that kind of genre. I'm gonna do Eldon Ring.

But like, I feel like that's, it's a different type of challenge because with Jump King, it's just like one mechanic that you have to like, master and master. Whereas with something like Eldon Ring or Seafood, it's like a lot of things going on at once. Yeah.

You know, there was a lot of different approaches, a lot of ways to master the game. Yeah. Yeah. I just like Junking because there's no like, there's no, like, if you fucked up, absolutely nothing, there's no other fact, single factor.

Yeah, because with games like Dark Souls or like seafood, where you're like, yeah, it's like you can blame it on like the enemy. What the fuck that one frame hit me with a? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know I'll make up excuses. But at Junk King, there's no enemies to get in your way. It's just you, you're in the way of yourself.

You are your own enemy. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Almost like fucking, no, don't trust anyone, not even yourself. That is jumping. Like the HDLC gets more brutal though. Like on, you know, the first jump thing, you can only fall like two screens max.

That's what I'm dreading, man. And I felt like 20. What if I like actually start raging? I do. I don't want that though. I don't want to get angry. Not like an actual angry though. Like an angry video game angry.

You know what I mean? It's a different kind of anger. I don't know how to explain it. It's an anger where you're like, you shout, but it doesn't actually like actually get you upset. Right. It's kind of like, ah! All right, back to it.

It's just like a slight frustration, slight annoyance. Well, no, it's stabbing your toe. Well, no, there's different kinds of video game anger. I don't know what that analogy is. But I'm not angry when I stop my talk. Not like, not like a 13 year old on Xbox Live anger, where I just test out all the new bad words I've looked. It's not that kind of anger.

Like, you know, like a, just a mild frustration. Like when the website, when you fill up the whole form and then it reloads for some reason, you're like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you're like, really, that's, that's the anger you feel? Dude, when I, when you're trying to, have you not had that? I get so angry when that happens.

Oh, that's like, you've like filled out a whole sign up form. Put the credit card info in, the address in, all in the right space. You're about to go to the checkout for some reason. Times out. For some of you had times out or it reloads, you're like, like fucking guts theme goes through my head.

Yeah. Is it even worth signing up again? I don't know, I don't know if this is worth it anymore. I don't even want the trampoline. Yeah. The worst part is when you fill out everything correctly, except for that one feel. but the websites are signed in a way that when you press send, it goes,

this one field is incorrect. We've reset the whole thing. But they reset the entire fucking thing, except that one field. Like, imagine that happens, but just it happens to every website you sign up. That's, that's like, there's so many Japanese websites. Every Japanese website, dude.

Like, I don't know if Japanese people are aware of UX designers, but they certainly need to more. It's just like the amount of times I've been like fucking cucked by not using like hearth width. Yeah. This is the, my fucking God.

Jesus. This is the biggest joke in Japan, and like it's something you'll never experience unless you've either try to buy stuff on a Japanese website. But some reason they have full width and half width, catacana and Irogana. Can you explain that, by the way?

What is the point of full width and half? I'll tell you exactly the difference. Okay. There is none. That's what's so frustrating about it. Someone explained it to me one time. It had something to do with how they coded way back the initial internet period in Japan. And it was like a layover from that, essentially

that they kept to use it. and they never like decided to sort out. Yeah, because I mean like, I've told the story of how I interned for an IT company here and I had to fix a bunch of like clients' websites and I had to go like through the HTML and I had like almost had a stroke looking at some of these codes

because it's like, oh my God, you said you built this website last year. You're using code literally from the 90s. I was like, what, of course this, like, of course this page takes like 20 seconds to load even though it's just text base because it's so much bullshit code here. Because fucking, it's so weird,

because there's so much like convenience stuff and stuff, crazy stuff you can do that you can't do in other countries. Yeah. And then they're like, how about your websites? We just keep them shit. It just, we just keep them shit. It weirdly enough, the best designed websites

are the fucking anime trailer websites. Right? Yeah, the ones that are like, they use like fucking like pretty like Java and like CSS, it's like, oh, that looks fancy as fuck. Yeah, like when that website was like when the last Bacchamo, like Monagetari volume was coming out. Yeah.

And he was just like scrolling down for the entire history of the series. I was like, damn, this is a beautiful looking website. Oh my god, someone, an actual coder. Yeah, I know. An actual programmer made this, dude. Why can you not add this to your UI design when I'm trying to fucking buy something?

Exactly. Sign up to a site. Like, Rockton is just like a hellhole of a website because you don't know, you go to like, because like on Amazon's so good, they don't do this shit. Because on Amazon it's like, okay, there's the fucking picture of the thing you wanna buy, there's how many is left, when it's gonna arrive,

here's all the information, everything is perfectly laid out with every single, single item. Meanwhile with Ruckton, it's just a fucking free-for-all. It's like, would you like 17 banners that have nothing to do with the product you're actually buying? By the way, where is the purchase button? Oh, it's buried deep beneath this fucking wall of text. And every time I go on a rock tent, it's so handy because you get so much stuff on Ruckton that you can't get on Amazon. But it's a fucking, it's just a struggle to try and like buy anything because it

doesn't even tell you when it arrives. I don't know. That's not the final boss. The final boss is Yahoo Watcher. Oh, my God. Where you, you, you. You can't even like immediate, you can't even sign up with an account that you want. You need like a special, you need a special Yahoo account. Yeah. So you need to just sign up to Yahoo! And it just, it's not your normal Yahoo!

It's Japanese Yahoo! As well. Yeah, so I have a Yahoo email account. Some like Duncan or something. I don't know, they chose the name for me. It's really weird. Yeah, of course it's a Yahoo Japan account because no one outside of Japan,

you're just fucking Yahoo anymore. Exactly, right? Exactly. So you need you to sign up with a special Yahoo account to sign up to this Yahoo! Orchions account. to then just not even like, I don't even know what the etiquette is

in terms of like bidding stuff and how to buy stuff. I've dead ass never even used Yahoo! Auctions just because I refuse to make a Yahoo Japan. Because I have a bad rating on it because I forgot one time to say I got the thing. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

I got that on Merikari as well. I got a really angry message from a dude who was like, why haven't you told me that you got it? This has been an awful experience for me. I'm like, ah, I just figured if I didn't say anything that means like I got it. Yeah, right? You'd think so.

But like, how'd you pay? Can you pay with like credit card or something? Yeah, so it's really confusing because there's like, when you auto-translate it in Google, it's like online pay and like something else that sounds like online pay. Yeah. And I remember that I was confused

and I clicked one of them and then I had to do this whole weird kind of thing with my bank where I had to then like contact my bank to do the online payment. Oh my God. Where there was just another field that just let you put your credit card information in. And it isn't clear because it didn't say like credit card.

It said something else. Yeah. Really, really annoying. I hate using it. I just don't bother. That's what I mean like, as well, a lot of the websites that offer English, they're like, okay, you click English,

send you to a brand new website that doesn't have half the shit with the Japanese. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whereas like Amazon, it's like you change to English, nothing changes except for language. Yeah, it's like great. It's exactly like, you know, when you go to like a Chinese restaurant

with your one Chinese mate, and they're like, bring out the special menu. Bring out the real menu. I don't know why it's like Chinese restaurants in particular, but it seems like every Chinese restaurant has the special menu that you can only get by asking, in Cantonese or Mandarin or whatever.

And I bet they're not even saying like bring out the real minions. It's probably just like a code word, you know. It's like, Mandarin is an orange and they're like, I said the word. Bring it, bring it out right now. I just like, it just blows my mind because like, you know, I go to a Thai restaurant and I can ask them in Thai whether they have, you know, a Thai dish that they only like do in Thailand

or only time most Thai people would know. But like, it's just like, why is it that Chinese restaurant just have an unspoken understanding that there's going to be. be so many people asking for a special menu that they're gonna make a special menu in every single Chinese restaurant. Why they're literally gatekeeping? It's like, literally gatekeeping,

be like, if you're not Chinese, you can't get the real shit, you know? Makes me feel sad, though, because I love Chinese food, but I know, right. I never wanna go to a Chinese restaurant without a Chinese restaurant. I know, I know, right? It sucks.

Because it feels like you've just unlocked the starter, the starter kit, right? And you need to learn Mandarin to get, to get like the actual good gear, right? You, you know what I'm? I mean, because like, I love Chinese food, but the best Chinese food I've had has not come from the normal menu.

No. Like, if I go to like a Chinese restaurant and I see like fucking, you know, orange chicken, sweet and sour chicken, fried rice, all this stuff. I was like, no, no, give me the real shit. Yeah, come on. Please, give me the real shit. But I don't know how to access it. It's like, where is your Chinese friend, huh?

I do not know how to access it. You just, just speak Chinese, bro. Just speak Mandarin. Exactly. It's easy. Just easy. Exactly. Could you imagine if like McDonald's did that? It's like, oh, where's your American friend? Wait, well, I know Shake Shack does, though.

Does it? Do they? Yeah, they have secret items. Really? Yeah. I didn't know that. You didn't know this? No, so not Shake Shack. Sorry, uh, in and out.

In and out. Oh, in and out. Oh, I got it in and out. So, what possible special menu can they provide? You can get like the, you can, I don't know, it's like animal style fries. That's a secret menu. Oh, yeah, yeah, I know that.

Yeah, and then there's like a... Is that a secret menu that? I feel that's, like, so well known now. Yeah, but if you're like a, If you're a tourist from Asia, don't speak English. Oh, that's true. And you're like, what's that like, what the fuck?

How do I, I know, no one tells you. I'll never tell you. Yeah, yeah. I know you can get a flavor where like they mix all the, uh, all the milkshake flavors into one. Oh. Sounds interesting, yeah. I don't know if you want that.

I think there's something else, there's another secret burger or something as well. I know there are secret items at fast food chains. Are secret items. It's not like a, not like an entire. I don't know that. Because they don't, because they don't, because they don't, because they don't,

asked to make, but if someone asked. Is it a marketing thing, you reckon? Also that as well, yeah. Yeah. It makes you seem like you're like in a club. It's part of the secret society. I got the real stuff. Give me the real stuff.

Have you been to those like places that are like secret bars or clubs or anything? Oh, like the invite only ones. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, one of my friends took me to one where it literally, it's in Tokyo. I'm obviously not gonna say where, but like it literally just... I'll never tell.

I've been there. It literally. looks like a concrete wall. And he just like, I was with my friend and he's like, okay, we're here. And I'm like, what do you mean? And where is this? It's like, ah, it's in Ruponki somewhere, I think.

We went to one in Shibuya, right? Yeah, that's speakeasy. They said like closed, and it was like closed due to Corona. Oh really, yeah, yeah, someone like knocked on the door and they came out. Oh no.

It was literally, he wasn't even just, it looked closed, it was just scaffolding and like, and like a wooden door. Like the place was like being built or like brought it off. and you just knock on the door, and like an actual speakeasy, like the fucking thing opens up.

Yeah, my one had that as well. So like he knocked, like he's like, oh, I have to knock a specific way as well. I'm like, no, bullshit you do. And he did like a secret like pattern. And then the thing came up and he was like, password or unigaisimas. And then he said the password and he's like,

friend. He pointed at me and he's like, yeah, yeah, friend. I was like, okay. And then he opens it up and it's just this tiny, like maybe three person bar. Right. And it was alright, I guess. It was cool that I was in that.

The coolest part, it was just going to what looked like a secret bar. The coolest part was just like the dude opening up like this. I'm like, I've only ever seen that in movies. I went to one where it was in London. I went to it and it was like a breakfast restaurant or something on the top. Yeah, we went in there and I didn't know the password

and neither did my friend and then we were like, we don't know what the password is. And he was like to damn Daph Punk, stopped song lyric. And then he was like feeding it. He was like feeding it to me and I was like, it was something like, I'm up all night to get lucky or something. Right.

So he said it, then he was like, It's not even like an obscure Darpunk song. No, no, no, no. You just go through the entire desalcary. Yeah, I was like, which album? Which album we were talking about? Okay, okay, can't be too many lyrics. If it's Darth punk lyrics, that narrows the-

Is it around the world? So then we're here and then some guy comes in greet you. some guy comes and greets us and we start walking through this restaurant that's closed and then like in a movie we go in the kitchen and there's people like working in the kitchen

and we're like walking through oh shit and we go down into a basement in the kitchen and there's like boxes of fries and shit all around us and we're going in and then like in a fucking spy movie it's got the fucking beads

oh shit opens it out and this room it's fine like a dimly lit room it's like a kind of it's okay but there's like no real like chairs or anything. It's kind of like a very small room

that's very dimly lit and it didn't, it wasn't that good and the drinks are okay. Yeah, and I was like, this is, the coolest part was walking to this thing. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I wanna leave. Yeah. What, I've always wanted to know what,

why would you opt to make a business like that, right? Like you, I feel-nollity. Yeah, I feel clearly like if you're going to opt to be like, okay, I'm gonna make this so exclusive that it's like near impossible for a regular person to find. Then it's like you're clearly not doing it as a sustainable business, you know? You're clearly doing it as like a fucking hobby or something.

I mean, it's the assumption is you'll be able to survive one word of mouth, I guess. That's the hope. A lot of people like, it's so cool, you gotta go. Yeah, and then the drinks are very mediocre. Yeah, the experience feels worth it because you feel exclusive. Yeah, it's just bragging rights, right?

Yeah, you pay for the experience and not so much the, you know, the bar or the business or the drinks itself. It's like bars that are membership only. And you can only get membership by having someone recommend you. Like that always seemed really silly to me. But there's so many of them in terms.

Well, that's like half of like the Golden Guy. Yeah, half of Yichalman as well is like that as well. It's like if you don't know someone who either works there or goes there frequently enough, they just won't let you in. Yeah, but at the same time, like I can get it with the bars and Golden Guy because the bars are so small that I'm sure that their regular customers can keep them,

keep their business up and running it. Yeah. just need like one or two patrons so you keep get yourself going and then you're basically set. That's true. That's true. It's pretty cool to own a tiny little bar in Golden Guy. I've always thought about that. But it's like what, but like it's like-

How hard is it to get a bar that? Yeah, that's what I've always wanted. I'm like, you're, but like all those bars, even though they're so tiny, I'm sure they're paying out the ass to have that space. What we've had a trash taste bar there? Trash taste bar and Golden Guy. Trash taste special.

Build a bar. Build a bar in Golden Guy. All three of us build our own bars in Golden Guy. see who makes the most money at the end of the night. I don't even want to think... I don't even want to think about how much it must cost to, like, rent out of space there. I'd get really claustrophobic working on one of those bars.

I think it's cozy. You think it's cozy? Yeah, I think it's cozy. It depends. I've been in somewhere, it's like I literally can't stand up straight inside of them. Right? It's literally a shoe box. Yeah, it is.

And I don't even know how they get into the bar, let alone work behind the bar. Well, most of them are like, you know, four feet tall, like, Obachans or something, they probably don't have any problems. It's not built for someone of my stature. Yeah, if I stand up, I literally, my, like, head literally hits the ceilings. Like, I feel like Gandalf and Frodo's house

in a lot of these places around. I'm just constantly like, can I get a drink, please? It's normally if you're wide and it's the problem, though, not if you're tall. Yeah, yeah, that's true. But that's why like going in the wintertime is the worst, because you're like all puffed up with jackets and shit, and just like, all right, out of the way, please.

Sorry, excuse me. Because I think it's best to go winter, In the summer, if it's weird, I don't know why. I feel in the summer it's just way too hot. It's really hot. Even though the AC's going, it's still, though. Either way, it's very much a gamble. I've heard so many horror stories in Golden Guy and like Nicholme and all that kind of stuff.

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Yeah, which was really, really fun. That was good time. Yeah. When was that? That's the one that Jan came to. Oh, that one. And he immediately went behind the bar and started. He just basically just took over the bar.

He just took over, yeah. Was it because the woman who was at the bar got tired? or something. Yeah, it was like this, it was owned by this like, what looked like a, at least 70, 80 year old, like old lady. She was really, really nice, but she was like clearly standing at the bar all night. And the moment Jan came in, she was like, oh, that looks like a charismatic enough guy to take over my bar for the night. And so she literally, she literally ushers Jan over because there were no seats left because, yeah, there was like, us three and like two

other Japanese people. And that, that was it. It was so small. So Jan comes in, he's like, I've got nowhere to sit. Old lady just like ushers Jan over and he's like, take over. And, and, like, take over. And this just goes behind the back And we never see her for the rest of the night And I'm just like, we can just like We can just leave if we wanted to Obviously we paid at the end of her

It was like a thousand yen a drink But like it was like you were pouring the drinks So it was like you could just make it as strong as you wanted Exactly strange. It became a self-service bar I don't know how Jan has this effect Like basically everywhere he goes Where he just sweet talks

The fucking the fucking restaurant The waiter or the bar lady to give us the special service or the special menu. The menu that doesn't exist, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, it's always something like Jan who is able to get. Jan is the only man that can somehow pull out a secret menu from a restaurant

that doesn't even have a secret menu. He's just like, oh, I guess we have a secret menu now, fuck, I bring it out of this guy. Do you imagine like going to like a British restaurant or something and like get a, get out the secret menu and it's just like toast sandwich. Unfortunately, crisp toast sandwich, crisp sandwich. I think the UK is at one place for sweet talking.

do anything. Yeah. They just, they're just like, no. Really? No. I've never seen anyone sweet talk anything in the UK. Maybe in a bar with one guy, but like in a restaurant it will never work.

Or maybe it's because they just don't have, like, secret menu culture, maybe? No, we don't. Yeah. Well, what would be on, like, the Japanese secret menu? There was like, uh, if you went, to, like, an abroad. Japanese, Nato?

Some, Konya or something. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like we don't have secret menus here either, just because, like, we don't even have tipping culture here. Because we're so like, just so like, these are the rules. We can't make any kind of exceptions. Why would you want to hide something?

If you're proud of it. Right. Well, like, what I'm talking about is if you go to a Japanese restaurant, not in Japan. Oh, I see. What would be like the foods on there that would be something that you, a Japanese person, very accustomed to Japanese cuisine would know, but not is like, I guess, not mainstream enough to be on like,

to be like... So you're asking what the most underrated Japanese food is? Or like unknown Japanese food. I would, I would say you'd probably, be something slimy, like most of the shit that we ended up feeling in the, what's in the box and the charity stream. Like Mozuku or like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

like shit like that, right? Okay, yeah. Probably, something like that. Like maybe like, I don't know, um, Nato on in curry, maybe. Because I feel like a lot of Izakaya foods would be on there. Oh yeah, definitely like, yeah,

like the blended squid and stuff like that or like Takawasa. That shit's ball. Oh, that shit's bomb. Oh, no way, no way. Hey man, you're part of my team now because you're like Nato. Okay, Nato, Nato was actually all right.

It was all right. It tastes is fine, but the slime is dreadful, really vile. The slime is, it's not even the worst texture I've had in Japan, I feel like. It looks a lot worse than it tastes and feels in your mouth, I think. Like, I think the beans taste pretty good. I mean, it just tastes like soy sauce, I think. I mean, it smells. It's basically what it is.

I mean, that's what it is. It's just soy sauce on soy beans. Yeah, yeah, right? Soy overload. Right, right. I mean, I feel like, like, I feel like soy sauce. Although, because you guys ate it like straight out of the packet, you got like the full brunt of like the slimyness

and the texture, but like when you put that on a bed of rice, because you're eating it with rice, it doesn't feel as slimy. Yeah, I feel like, sure like with a bit of rice, it would be perfect. Yeah, it'll be absolutely perfect. Fantastic. Yeah, I mean, I, I guess, you know, you gotta,

give it a go. Give it a go, give it go sometimes. If you don't like it, it's totally fine. Maybe, maybe you'll like it, maybe you're not. Like I, to me, like I learned that, uh, I just can't handle ketchup. I don't know why. I don't know why.

Like that was the first time. To be fair, that was, that was a lot of ketchup. That was the first time. Like so what, so. Yeah, God's referring to the Trinfire live stream. To explain, we all had forfeits to do. I had to eat pizza crust drenched in ketchup and mayonnaise because I hate ketchup and mayonnaise and-

And you don't eat the cross. And I don't eat the crust. And I remember like, I was like, I'm gonna give this the best go that I possibly can because this is for charity. And it's the first time where I've put some thing in my mouth and I had like immediate gag refus. That's because it's your mind,

you're telling you that you don't want it. Like to me, like the Nato, like I was just like, maybe I'm gonna gag doing a Nato and I had it and I'm just like, oh. It's because you expected to gag. I think you expected to like throw up, so you were psyching yourself out the moment it touched your tongue, you're like,

yeah, to be fair though, that, that smells pretty dreadful. But I had to do the ghost pepper, that was a, that was grateful. How was that experience? That hurt, see, because like, you know, you guys, were saying like oh you know and everyone in the chat was saying oh look forward to the next morning like you're gonna you're gonna be shitting through a straw and I was like oh god no no the ramen was way worse yeah the ramen was way worse that we had but um yeah I was fine was fine like I had maybe like one painful shit and then I thought that was gonna be like

the beginning of the end no no no no no the one that's spicy is the yeah yeah yeah yeah but yeah I was fine after that I just you know I look back on the the clip of me like shivering for 15 minutes afterwards and I'm like I literally look like I'm about to fucking die. Yeah, I was like getting slightly worried when you start shivering. Yeah, I know it's because your body is just going into shock. Yeah, pretty much. And, uh, you're like, your, your body is rushing you with like,

fucking adrenaline and endorphines and all that kind of shit. And I just remember seeing you like go like this and I'm just like, are you, are you, right man? I looked and, like, you know, I think the worst part about it is when you watch that out of context, you see a dude who looks clearly sleep deprived with like huge bags under his eyes shivering. I just looked like a crack. addict. Like, I just looked like I was having withdrawals. I was like sleepy dudes with like,

it was not the best law. I don't think the sleep deprivation helped as well, because I can't imagine trying, like, trying of food that you really... It was like seven in the morning. Yeah, it was seven in the morning. We would up for like 20 hours at that point and you're like, perfect time, perfect time to eat a ghost shop. No. To be honest, I couldn't taste anything. Oh. Yeah, there was no flavor. Was it as painful as you thought it would be? I, yeah. I find that like sauce, sauces, like really like heavy sauce based dishes that are spicy are the hardest to eat.

Because like, you know, like the hot ones stuff. Yeah. I can eat all of those hot ones sauce, like the hottest ones on wings, like no issue. Like I don't need milk or anything like that. It just tastes good, like the last dab. I like, I like slather everything in that. Right, right, right.

And it's all good because it's just a few bites, but it's very solid. But like we did the ramen video for yours. Yeah. And that wasn't that spicy. Like, I'd say like it's not as spicy as like a ghost pepper or a Carolina Reaper,

but because it's just sauce, yeah. It coats your mouth, coats your like esophagus, goes in your stomach and it hurts so much. Yeah, yeah. And then it takes a while, so you just keep eating. Yeah, I definitely struggle more, I think, with that than the ghost pepper. One burst of spice is not that bad.

It's when you keep eating bursts of spice. Yeah, yeah. It builds up. It multiplies. Yeah, you don't give yourself a break. That's what like eating one Carolina Reaper for me? is like totally chill. Like I could do it now

and we could still film the episode and it'd be chill. Eating like those competitions where they eat like 40, I'm like that's fucked. How has anyone not died from that? That's fucked up. I don't know because...

I don't think you... Can you die from Spice? No, you can go into shock though. You can go into shock, but I don't... Has there been a recorded case of someone dying from Spice? I'm not sure if there is.

There has been? You can burn a hole through your stomach. I don't necessarily think that's true though. I think... You'd have to have a pretty weak stomach, though, I feel for that. Because like, it's a factor of things. Because like, for me, as someone who, like, love spicy food, like trying to explain why I eat spicy food or why, like, you know,

like Joey's said to me all the time, like, I don't know how you can, like, get through that or something like that. And I think one thing that's really under, like, underrated about why people eat spicy food is that the spicy food needs to taste good. Yeah. Yeah. Because we, when we think of, like, spicy challenges, We just think about getting through how spicy this spicy meal is

or getting through like this fucking pepper or something. But a big draw of spice food is that if it's, even if you're in fucking pain and, you know, your mouth is hurting. If it tastes good with the spice, you want to finish it. You want to eat it because it tastes good. I mean, that was it with the ramen video. Like I would not have finished that if it didn't taste as good as it did. And it tastes really fucking good.

If that did not taste good, I would just been like, no, fuck this. Yeah, like I've had like, for example, like the Coco Ichibund Level 10 spice, and it is spicy, but it doesn't taste good at all. Like it just feels like you're making it spicy to make it spicy. It's just artificial. It's just artificial.

Sometimes it just feels like you're, this is just a flex at the end of the way. We can make it this spicy, but it doesn't even like, the taste doesn't marry you well with the spice at all. And it's just like, if like proper good spicy dishes need to taste good. It needs to complement the actual base food. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Like, I have, like, for example, I have, like, Thai food without the spice, and it literally does feel like there's a component that's missing from the food. So good. Yeah. What are you going to say, Astridi? Kamsaysin does cause tissue inflammation. So a large enough dose could cause serious damage to the stomach and insulin. I feel you'd have to have, like, an egregious amount, though, to hit that point.

Or something really spicy and have it all in one sitting, you could do enough damage to potentially kill you. I just said my ex-girlfriend was Sri Lankan I remember when I went to to meet her parents and stuff everything had chilies in it of course it was amazing that I loved it

I was like breakfast omel with like five of those peppers that you put in like Thai food and I ate them all and then I don't know if I told the story her mom came in and was like why did he eat the peppers and I was like am I not supposed to eat the peppers

and she was like no you'll get the stomach cancer if you eat the peppers. I'm like, why would you put them in the food? What the fuck? They were delicious. It was good. Yeah. It was also like another restaurant because she took me around to a bunch of the local restaurants. And there's one thing where it was like deviled mutton it was called or something. Yeah. And it was like the most delicious marinated mutton I'd ever had in my life. Damn. But it was like, like doom level of spice. Or if it's got the word devil. Devil, yeah. And it was like, I'm tearing out, but I'm like, fuck. It's so good.

And it was like, even though I was in like so much pain, I'm like, just another bite. Yeah, it's so good. That's the thing about spicy food. If it's really good spicy food, you're like, you power through, you power through. I just, just one more bite. You take the bite, you're in a pain,

but you're just like, oh, it just tastes so good though. I don't know how to explain it, but like when it's super spicy and super delicious, it's almost like it's searing in the flavor. Yeah, right, right, right. So I'm like, this is so much flavor. Oh, because it's almost like, if you take the spice out,

because I was like, for example, I've had like very, I've had unspiced Thai curry. I've had unspiced Indian curry as well because we're in England. And the best way I can describe it is that it just tastes flat. It tastes flat. There's something that's missing from the taste.

Right. It's an uncarbonated. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good analogy, actually. It's the flavor's there, but there's like a texture. The flavor is there, but the personality is gone. Exactly. Indian curry, you know, if you have rice with it too,

or you have none, I feel like that's so nice to have like spice with it. Yeah. It kind of helps mellow it out a bit. That's true. Yeah, exactly. See, because I never, for the longest time, I didn't understand that concept of like spice enhancing food because, you know, up until I'd say maybe like three or four years ago, I could not handle spice at all.

Like, if I went to Cocoichi, I would do like level one. Yeah. Which is like the most basic shit. And I'd just be like, no, too spicy. I can't do it. And then I don't know what it was that like, where just one day I kind of just flipped a dime. And I was like, you know what this? It hurts, but I'm enjoying it for some reason.

Growth. What is this? See, I had like the opposite journey of Joey. Some of someone who's grown up on Thai with Thai food and stuff like that. So like I would, like, I remember as a kid, I like really did not like Japanese food at all. Right. A lot of Japanese cuisine revolves around, you know,

the natural flavor of stuff. You know, they're savoring it and just bringing out the natural flavors of the ingredient. And me, a Thai person, being like, there is not enough ingredients in this dish. Sushi? Sushi? That's just great ingredients. That's rice and fish.

What, where's the spice? Where's the flavor? Wasami. But you have three ingredients. Like, you know, rice, you know, rice with a bit of vinegar in it. Fish and wasabi. I'm just like, where's the five million spices to go with it? What, you dip it in soy sauce?

Where's the chilies and the soy sauce? Where's the kick? Yeah, where's the kick? Yeah, where's the kick? And, like, like, Japanese cuisine was like my least favorite cuisine because to me, that just wasn't, weren't enough, like, extra spices or extra ingredients to enhance the flavors.

Unseasoned sushi. And then as a griota, I'm just like, as a gruoda, I learned to really appreciate the subtleties in the flavor of like Japanese cuisine where you, it really enhances, it really enhances like, you know, the good ingredients.

It's just rice, isn't it? It's just rice. Also same. You know, sushi chefs, straight for 20 years to get the perfect rice. It's all rice, isn't it? It's all the same.

What is this, Uncle Ben's? What is this? Did you put it through a colander? Yeah. This is a microwave? Did you wash this rice? Wash this rice or a colander? It's a microwave rice, right?

Five minute rice? Minute made rice. Well, I fucking love the golden rice in those microwave packets, though. I fucking love that rice. Oh, the ready to make ones, right? Yeah. It tastes so good. Yeah, they do taste.

It has all the artificial shit in it. Yeah, exactly. Fast food rice. How do we make rice unhealthy? Super unhealthy. We found a way. Yeah, honestly, like the fast food, the packeted fried rice that you can buy

is actually pretty damn bad. In Japan, it's pretty good. Oh, the one of the, the one that you buy in the freezer. Yeah, yeah. I was like, oh, well, I make curry, and I don't wanna make, I didn't have a rice cooker at the time. Yeah, yeah. And I hated making rice the way that my mom taught me,

which was just boil a pan full of water. Yeah. Yeah. Which sometimes worked, sometimes didn't. Yeah. But doing it in Japan is like blasphemous. I know, I know, I know. But it's like, it's weird, because you

You'd think that like the first people to adapt an easier way to do it would be white people because they love being lazy. That's true. So like you'd think they, you'd think rice hookers would go down at, like especially for the UK where we love rice. Yeah. Like we love eating it with curry.

So like you'd think that- Dude, do people in the UK love rice? With curry. That's pretty much it though. But that's the only thing we eat half the time. Chicken tika masala is like every, every week. That's true. You'd think that we would figure out like,

hey, these rice cookies aren't so bad. Yeah. Because like I remember growing up in the UK whenever I'd like have my pack lunch or whatever, it would be like something. Oh, you know, you'd never make rice for a pack lunch. It's the dinner thing. Yeah, no.

Sorry, tea, tea. Uh, no, fuck. Yeah, it's dinner. D supper. Sorry, supper. Whatever you want to call. Sorry, sorry. Tea, to me is the drink, you know.

I do, I know. As with most of the, uh, as with most of the developed world. Tea for me is a twit longer. Awful joke. Awful joke. No, but like, I remember having this conversation with my mates and they were like, wait, you eat rice every day with every meal?

And I'm like, yeah, yeah. Like you have it with every meal. Yeah. And they couldn't like wrap their heads around. You boozy motherfucker. Yeah, yeah. You eat rice with everything. You don't take a brace from right.

I break from rice. You just, it's everything. I'm like, yeah. It's Asian cuisine. You literally eat rice with everything. I'm sure the Asians are asking the same thing, be like, wait, you eat bread with everything. But also you use every meal is with bread.

It's bread or potatoes. Yeah. Is that it? Is that it? Bread and potatoes. Why not both? Carbs on carbs. I mean, I think it's grown a lot of popularity there

in the last 10 years, especially. Rice? Yeah, me, definitely not when I was growing up at all. Yeah, it's become way more popular, like rice-based dishes in general. But I think, uh, I say finally. What took them so? Right, right, yeah, yeah.

But I think there's enough dishes where people are making them where a rice cooker, you're peeled by bread makers. People are not making bread every fucking. And those things are fucking massive. Yeah, right. My little rice cookers like this big. The point was before I did this, I used to just buy the microwave packets.

They're amazing. Like 300 gram packets, perfect portion. Tastes great. Slap it on the plate. You're good to go. Amazing. Amazing. I actually, you know, I actually think those,

I also survived without a rice cooker in university for the long time because the microwave packets were good enough. And the problem with a rice cooker, I find is that rice goes off so far. fucking quick. So either you like cook a tiny bit of rice in this massive rice cooker, because I'm Asian and of course like,

if a mom, if a mom buys your rice cooker, it's like the biggest fucking rice cooker, you can ever imagine. How many families do you wanna feed this? It's like this restaurant one. Where it's like this big. There was, luckily there was a humanitarian crisis, but it wasn't for long because Garn had his rice cooker

when his mom gave it. Yeah, yeah, because like my mom bought, me a rice cooker for university, because that's like, that's like, one of the essential pieces of equipment. that you need for university, for every Asian kid that the mom provides. Of course.

And they provide you a rice cooker that could survive a nuclear winter. You know, you, you, you cook one portion. I'm pretty sure you can, like, hop inside of a survivor blast, right? Right? But the problem is, like, I would always cook too much rice or too little rice, right?

That I would either, like, it would be like, either too much for the meal I was cooking, and I would have some leftover rice, or I'd have cooked too much rice. And like, the rice just goes off so quickly, even if you put it in a fridge or something, Because unless you're, this is the Asian trap, right? Because with the rice cooker, you have to eat rice every day in order to cook,

in order to eat all the rice that you cook with the rice cooker. Otherwise, it's just going to go off. Exactly. So that's why actually the microwave packets were just like the perfect portion. Yeah. For like one meal and it was just like a lot less effort. Yeah, because then you have to like start experimenting. Like you look in your fridge and be like, all right, what can the rice go with that I haven't tried yet?

I wonder, can you dehydrate the rice that eat? you've cooked to turn it back into a rice grain? Is that possible? Well, I mean, if you had the technology. I'm asking, is it possible? Well, I mean, like, I put it. No, it's like popcorn. You don't turn back the popcorn to it.

Oh, that form is completely different, though. The rice stays the same. I think if you took the water out somehow, maybe we could do it. Scientists, can be unhydrate rice? I used to, my family, actually, a lot of Japanese families, what they do is, is if they make too much rice,

then you put it into like small, you know, like maybe microwave-sized packets, and then you put them in the freezer. Yes, that was also what happened as well. Yeah, but it's like not the same, like the next morning you wake on and be like, you know, okay, there's some leftover rice. If I don't eat it, my mom's gonna fucking throw a hissy fit,

so let's just get it out, defrost that shit. But there was no space in my freezer to put extra packets of frozen rice, do you know why? As a university student, what happens when your mom comes over? She brings you eight fucking, like, tubberware boxes full of takeaway food. And then you gotta put it in the freezer. And it just lasts you the entire day.

Oh, you know, the entire fucking term. I was that asshole. I was that asshole. You know when you got to share a freezer and that some fuck makes, takes up the entire fucking thing. Because he decided that his, he was going to meal prep like an entire month.

Yeah, yeah. And you're like, you're a cunt, you know? Like, we got to share the freezer. Where is my Ben and Jerry's going to get? Where am I going to put my vodka? I just wanted one Ben and Jerry's in here. Is that too much to ask? You're like start playing Tetris with all the rice packets?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, because like my mom would come to visit me once a month in university and every month she'd bring like two full like Staintrees bag worth of like takeaway boxes of food. Holy shit. And I'm just like that is, I don't know, I don't know. How many people were in your like,

were you sharing one fridge with? Like six or seven or something like that. So at best you get, you have half a shelf to yourself. Yeah. And then you have one, like a freezer is even smaller. Yeah, a freezer was smaller. So you had like, what, two items to put them You must have been hated.

They must have hated you. I probably was hated you. I would throw a fit. I'd be like, gone mate. Either you're sharing this with me. Yeah. That's my real estate or I'm putting stuff in there, dude. Now you gotta, you gotta say bye-bye.

You're invading my property a little bit. I'm like, I'm gonna have to pull a shotgun on that. You're gonna have to haggle with me here. We gotta figure something out. Oh, God. What is like living with a Southeast Asian guy or girl? That's, that's real life. Whenever their parents come to visit,

they just bring a shit ton of food. I don't know why is part of like... I feel it's just like an Asian in general. Not even... Is it true with Japanese? Because I don't know it's true like Southeast Asian and Chinese. I know when I was living with...

I know when I was living on my own still. My aunt used to come over and just like, buy me a shit ton of food. And that was when I was sharing, house sharing with two other people. And yeah, I was also the asshole that took up like 80% of the freezer. So I knew, I knew very well.

I'm co-hosted. with these asshole, these barbarians, filling up the fridge, selflessly. Hey man, this is our turn to colonize. We're colonizing one freezer at a time. How does it feel? I'm Welsh, dude.

I'm Welsh, bro, what the fuck? How's a feel now? Walsh can't get a break, man. Fuck, dude. One freezer at a time. We're coming for your freezes, okay? Did your parents send you care packages? when you went to university?

If I say no, they might say otherwise. They might, they might. How dare you don't remember? They might see this episode, be like, we send you things, Colin. I don't think they did. I want to say that, no, I don't think so. I remember the last house I moved into in university.

It was like, we moved in, it was a bit beat up, it wasn't like great. My mom was like mortified. She was like, oh my God, this place is a shithole. Oh my God, you can't. You can't listen. I'm like, it's not that bad. I'll get over it. I'll be fine. I just remember her reaction. She was just like,

I thought she was actually going to be like, you can't, you can't, you have to find somewhere else. This is too awful. I was like, no, it's fine. It wasn't even that bad. It was just kind of messy. Is this the one in Swansea? Yeah, but it was, and that one was the one that later had like rats. Oh, yeah. But I don't think the rats were a part of the initial moving in thing.

They joined later. They moved in with me. They were the other roommates. They weren't part of the package. No, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't pre-order those, unfortunately. Yeah, no, I mean, fuck. I'm trying to think that everything, I only ever had like white roommates, actually.

Sounds bad. I guess in Swansea, there isn't much diversity. There was, I didn't have some friends here from like, from Chinese schools. But most of them didn't speak like. Like exchange students or? They just, a lot of, a lot of foreign students come to the UK.

Right, right, right. There's a very like, the UK has a lot of foreign students. Yeah, that makes sense. There's a ton of universities. I think there's one, every city has too. And yeah, you guys have like some of the highest universities. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And it's quite a lot of prestigious ones as well. Yeah, that means. Not Swansea, but you know, maybe another prestigious one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe Oxford was full. Yeah, so I had some friends that were Chinese, but they didn't speak much English. Right, right, right. And it was such, I can remember his name.

He, I had, did some projects with him in first year, and he was like, didn't know what the fuck was going on. Right. So we kind of just helped. We were like, we'll just, we'll just help you. We'll just do it. And he was like, thank you, thank you. I'll return the favor.

And then he never returned. And then he never saw him again. And then he never saw him again, right? And then two years later, same engineering. I was like, oh my God, I saw him again. I did, man. And his English was a bit better at this time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

A bit more English. Still wasn't like great, but it was pretty good. And he was really struggling with this thing. And we had a spare slot in our group and we were like, just join ours because we're basically nearly done. Yeah, yeah, yeah. passing grade like and he was like oh shit no way and i'll be like what do you do for fun he's like i'll show you no dead ass we're like in the like computer libraries just working on this thing

and this is when we like invited him to join us yeah right and we're like we're just talking because he was sitting with us and we're like oh yeah what do he's like i'll show you show you so he takes us outside you just start to break dancing just like insane like insane like insane yeah like insane yeah yeah insane because he didn't want to explain it or something yeah he just starts doing like insane flips and shit. And we're like, we're like computer nerds and like engineers and we're just like, what?

What is this? That's fucking awesome. He was so bizarre. And then, the glowop, dude. Yeah. And he was like, yeah,

I love break dancing. It's my passion and stuff. Yeah. And I was like, nice, dude. I'm nice. He's like, what are you going to do after this? He's like, I'm just here until my parents drag me back.

And I was like, I don't know. Breakdance might way to a degree. And so he was like, he was like, by the way, I didn't forget. I want to return the favor for you help, you guys help me so much.

Oh yeah. Yeah. And I didn't see him for a long time. And then one day I was on the bus back to like the, my house and he was there, he was like, dude, let me return the favor for you. And I was like, oh, okay, sure, sure. And so we go into town, he's like, look,

my friends own this boba store. And I'm like, of course. I'm like, yeah, I don't want to be racist, but I'm like, it makes sense that you, You're Chinese friends own the boba store. Yeah, that makes sense. My first time ever having boba, and he's like, yeah, you gotta try this.

Oh, really? You love tea? I'm like, yeah, I love tea, I love tea. I love tea. I'd never heard of boba before. Right. This is like 20... Is this before it like exploded? Yeah, this is like 2015.

Before the bober explosion. And I've never even seen this stuff. And they were putting these, these what I thought were balls into my drink, tapioca. Yeah. The time puts them in, I'm like, I don't know, man. It looks kind of, this isn't like tea I've had before.

And it's cold? Yeah. I don't know about that. So I have this and he makes it for me and he's like, it's free of charge, pretty charge. I'm like, okay, okay, okay. I'm like, all right, I give you like, I don't know how much this work would it cost

if I charge you, but all right, all right, free-bogers. I'm very grateful and I drink it. And immediately I like, I'm like choking on this fucking tapioca ball. I'm like, oh, I'm like, you got a heimliquemmer and over me. It's awful. I like spat out the boba.

I mean, the story is so bad. I suck on it. And like the whitest thing ever, like, bah, ha, right. Like, that is the widest story. It was the white mantrised tapioca for the first time. Literally spat it out. And I was like, I'm so, I'm so sorry.

He's like, no, this is, it was funny. And I'm like, oh, okay. I'm like, but the milk pot, the milk part tastes good. Yeah. Can we get rid of the balls? And he's like, yeah, we'll just make you another one without the ball. I mean, no, no, no, you don't have to.

He's like, he's free, no, okay. I got you, bro. I was like, oh, okay, okay, okay. That's nice of him. Yeah, he's very, very nice. God, I remember when the fucking initial bober explosion happened in Japan. How did that happen?

Why did that happen? That's so weird, it's like, yeah, the month we moved here, it was like every bober store, you could, you would tell which boba store, what was a boba store, sorry? Yeah, yeah, yeah, right? There were some boba stores near my house at the time where it was like, legit, like,

on weekends, it was legit like a four hour wait. Yeah. And I'm like, I don't get it. What? I don't get it. It's just a bit of tea with some jelly. Man did that die. It just, just, oh yeah.

It like fucking sped. You know, like, I, like, speed run death? I think it's still, no, there's, you never see large. You go to a bober store now, there's like, maybe one or two people there, that's true, that's true. Well, there's still a thing in the UK, from what I can see. They still, like, exists. The stores still exist.

I don't know, but it's not the hype. It's just the hype, rightly so, because I thought it was, like, overrated the fuck. I think so, too. I didn't get what the craze around it was. I mean, I drank, I drank a shitload of it during uni, because we had, like, a boba store near, like, where we studied. I get it. Yeah, but that was, yeah.

before the explosion. It lessed a while because it's cold. So you can kind of just sip on it throughout the day if you haven't get a big one. Also if you're a uni student, it's a great sugar rush. Yeah. And it keeps you concentrated. I guess everyone, everyone after a while was like,

in German at least, was like, all right, back to Starbucks now. Yeah, back to Starbucks. Back to the way life should have been. I just saw nothing but just iced tea or iced coffee, I don't know, maybe. To me it was like, but it's not fun. There's no personality. I'm a hot boy.

I like my drinks hot. I don't really like cold drinks that much. They had hot bober too though, right, I think. Hot bober is just not the same. It's not the same. Yeah, I think they do, but it's not as good. I believe you can order it with like no ice sometimes. You know when you can customize your order?

That's lukewarm though. That's lukewarm, that's not warm boba. It's like warm boba. Yeah, it's like warm boba. Yeah, I don't know what maniac would order a warm boba, but it was an option in some of the bober stores I've been to. It feels like a specialty.

I'd be like, okay, if you say so. Was that a secret menu? Did you have to wait? The secret menu. Did you have to speak Chinese to get that one? It's like, I'm a Chinese friend. Can I get the lukewarmbo? It's like, oh, so you know your shit.

Yeah, I don't know, like, I don't know how or why it exploded, but I remember it just like, not just in Japan, but just pretty much everywhere in the UK, everywhere in Thailand, you just couldn't get away from it. Even in the States, I remember, it was huge. It was like fashionable. I think it's a fashionable drink. Yeah, I guess so.

And I think, it's like, it's like, Instagramable. That's it, it's Instagrammables. You know, let's be honest, 2014 was just the, was all the like the Frapuccino. That's what it was. That was the thing. Everyone just wants a photogenic drink.

And Boba looked photogenic. But I feel Japan took that like, the photogenicness of Boba and just like, was trying to stretch it out to such a high degree where it's just so unnecessary. It's like everything in Japan though. Everything is about taking photos.

Like afternoon tea. I love my afternoon tea. It's the most British thing I've ever said. I really, really enjoy going for tea and having crumpets or scones. That is like a weirdly popular subculture in Japan, isn't it? It is, but everywhere I've been just does it really badly. Really?

They, okay, I mean, not badly. It's hard to say. Not as good. Like, I, to me, afternoon tea is just as much about, like, the food you get as it is the tea. Yeah. Right. Right. And the food isn't great here.

It's, it's, the food here looks so aesthetic. But it doesn't taste good. Yeah, yeah. Literally all they do is they arrange it and they get these, like, beautiful colored things. And then you take one bite of the key. Like why does it taste bad? Yes. I actually agree.

So this is like afternoon tea is one thing that England does the best that I've had so far because the afternoon tea food is actually good. Whereas in Japan, every time I've had afternoon tea, it just looks pretty. Also yeah, it's gotta be layered, right? So like the layers are to distinguish the types of flavors.

Bottom is for sandwiches. Then maybe you get like the the kishis or the more like savory kind of like the dishes. It's always sandwiches. Yeah, yeah. So it's like savory, savory, savory, and then sweets. Yeah. But in Japan, it's sweet, sweets,

savory and also sweet. But it's like, it's ridiculous. It's like this isn't, because normally afternoon too, you kind of have it at like, we have it in the afternoon. Yeah. But, you know, if it's a good place,

you can normally like skip lunch or dinner with it because it's pretty, like, it's quite a lot. Some places even refill. Yeah. In the UK, they refill the sandwiches or stuff in some places. So you can just like, you can chow down, do you?

And if you like the sandwiches or you like the whatever they're offering, dude, it's good. It's so good. You get money's worth. Yeah. Expensive though. In London, it's very expensive.

Yeah, I bet. It's good. It's really good. But it's an experience you're paying for, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I get that. One thing I've only seen really in Asia as well,

going off like the boba thing before like, I guess the Boa Craig picked off. The most of the most of the most thing I've ever mentioned by the way to realize that. It's also pretty much. It's disgusting. No sandwich. I mean, it's one thing I feel like Britain does well.

So I think it's a good. It's no Gregs, it's not Greg's. But yeah, like, uh, Dessert, dessert cafes. That's one thing like I only saw in Asia. Oh, yeah. And I don't, I don't know if there is more dessert cafes in the UK now. Dessert buffets.

Dessert buffets. What's that? It's like, it's literally exactly that. Think of a buffet, but it's all desserts. Because whenever I'd hang out with some of my friends in Thailand, they'd be like, oh, let's go to this dessert cafe. I'm just like, wait. Like, to me, growing up in England,

dessert was something you have at the end of a meal at a restaurant, right? You don't go to a specific place. to eat dessert, right? That was that concept which was alien to me. Yeah. And like, to me, it still feels weird, right? Because I would like, if I want dessert after a meal, I would order it at the restaurant.

Yeah. But like, you go to a dessert cafe, and it's like, it's like half a meal, you know? You know, you know? Because like, you never go to a dessert cafe after you finish eating at a restaurant. Yeah. But you go to a dessert cafe at like really weird times at a day.

Three or something. And I go to a dessert cafe, I have to dessert, and then it just fucks with my eating schedule because then I just don't want dinner. Yeah, yeah. But then it also doesn't fill me up as well. It's really weird. So you get hungry at like 9 p.m.

Yeah, it's like a really weird time where it's like, oh, it's kind of too late to eat food. Yeah, right? But I know I won't be able to sleep because I'm gonna get hungry. Yeah, yeah, no, I get that. Yeah, I don't want it. I don't know. I just don't feel satisfied

if I've eaten a lot of something sweet. But when I eat like a savory meal, yeah. I just feel like happy. I just feel sick if I eat too much sweet stuff now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was always like that though. Like I could never eat too.

I liked sweets, but like I could never eat too much of it because then I'd be filled up, but then that feeling of being filled up by sweet shit it just made me feel really ill, which just made me wanna eat regular food anyway. Man, I said this a year or two ago, but man, I still don't like themed cafes in Japan. They're like collaboration cafes.

Because of the food? The food and drink is like a joke. It looks good. That's the thing is that I hate the fact that we're turning like food impractical. We're like, okay, well, we put a little, I went to the Squarionix one. Oh yeah.

And then they made me a latte and I was like, this latte tastes really bad. Yeah, yeah. But they put a slime on it, so I guess now it's worth $9. Yeah, like, what? There's only been, I've been to so many themed cafes because Aki loves going to them.

I know. Like, because she makes content out of it, so it's understandable. But I think the only good one where I would actually go back for the food is the Kirby Cafe. And I know it's good because, no, no, I know it's good because the biggest Kirby Faddle says the Kirby Cafe has the best food.

It does. What a coincidence. It legitimately does. And I know I'm not the only one who thinks that because it was a temporary thing at a fucking Tokyo Skytree, but now they made it a permanent thing. So you know if a themed cafe turns permanent, that's how you know that the food is good. Because if the food sucks, then people don't come back. It's like a novelty to it that's really short-lived.

And once you've, like, experienced all the food and you've experienced that themed cafe's, like, you know, style and everything, and you've grabbed all the fucking merch you can, because there's always a merch shop attached to it as well. Then you're not going to go back. I don't know, because to me, it's like the food itself is the art. Don't draw all over my stage.

Don't reassemble the carrots to look like a smiley face. But I think that's why I like the Kirby Cafe, because the Kirby Cafe, they don't fuck around with the food. They fuck around with the cutlery. So, like, the plates are like, certainly shaped like shaped in certain ways or like the cups are shaped in certain ways. But the actual food itself is normal.

Once you put it on a regular plate. I don't know if I'm like a Scrooge or something just don't enjoy fun or whatever, but like I just don't want people like making faces or shit out with my food. I don't want my food to be like a toy. No, I get that. I'm exactly the same way where if I go to a themed

something of like something I'm a fan of, then I don't want them to fuck around with the food. Yeah, right. I just like, look, look, I'm, I'm here for a good time to enjoy the thing I like. I'll buy the merch. Give me like cool merch. Give me like cool, exclusive merch that I can buy.

What better way to get one with the show than to digest the show. Oh, dude, like fucking typical example is when we went to the Bucky exhibit, right? I saw this poster that was like, oh, just down the block there is the Bucky Cafe, like a Bucky themed cafe. And my friend and I were like,

because you know, I was like hitting around, you know, lunchtime, like early afternoon. We were like, all right, let's go check it out, right? Let's go see the menu. And I saw the menu and I was like, this is the laziest attempt at a themed cafe. One of them was like Retsu Kayo's Napoleon pasta. And I'm like, what the,

when does Retsu ever eat Napoleon pasta in fucking barking? It's like they are really fucking stretching it. They're like, they're really stretching it to make it on brand. It's Mickey Mouse's world famous lasagna. Yeah, it was like, one of them was like Yujiro's cappuccino. And it's like, it didn't even have Ujura's face on it. It was literally just a cappuccino. $9.

And I'm like, what makes this use here? That's the thing about so many themes cafes I'm into in Japan where they have a dish on the menu that's just like, you know, fucking Rind's special curry from Fate State 9. And I'm just like, when did this happen? How is this on brand? Why did you just add a, you literally just added a character to a random dish? Yeah, exactly.

And you call it brand. I find it like insulting. It's like your, you're, you're, you're insulting my intelligence. Yeah. You're insulting my fandom. Yeah. By like, you think I'm just gonna buy this

because you put this character on it, I'll take two. But, but like, if you had put the fucking, like, Napoliton pasta in front of me, I would have been like, oh, it's just the regular Napoleon Apostle? Like, do you think though, if they were like, but it's Red Sokayo's Napolitzbole's imposter,

then I'll be like, well, fucking sign me up then. I'm gonna eat the shit out of this. Like, this is why, like, when you go to, like, Wolfgang Park's restaurant, he doesn't serve like fucking smiley faces on his stage, you know what I mean? Like, I just don't want, I just don't want that.

Like, I don't want this. It's just like, the steak just has, like, if you went to a really nice restaurant. Yeah, there's initials burn into the steak. You're like, what the fuck is this? Why is this? Is this a horse? Like, you're branding it?

Like, what's it running away? Like, what's going on? Like, this is ousted. Yeah, like, I just don't like that. Yeah. To me, it's like, it's such, if a food is done well, it itself is so beautiful and I'll pay for it. And I'll pay for it.

And it speaks more. But, you know, just have the decor of the cafe. Have everything else be, like, just make it like, Everything else but the food. Like don't just fuck with that. Have cool cutlery, have a cool vibe, you know, have a cool aesthetic, you know.

Make it feel like you're at the place. If it's Kirby, make it so that the toilet is Kirby and I can lift up his face now. And I can sit and shit in Kirby's flat. I think that's what I appreciated about the Kirby Cafe was that they didn't fuck around with the food. They fucked around with the cutlery, which you can then buy at the fucking merch store, right?

So I was like, oh cool, this is like a thing I can use in my kitchen and it's like kind of neat and dope and it doesn't have to, I don't have to make a fucking Kobe theme. You'll get to know if you come to Japan at some point. I'm sure there'll be tons. Yeah, please.

Like, Kobe Cafe's great. But like- There's always a bunch of the rotating. But like, you know, for like, for me, especially if when it's like cafes, especially that are like paired with like exhibits or whatever, right? It's just like, just give me some good merch. Didn't they have the Penn Pineapple Pen Cafe?

Yeah, I went to that. Did they actually? Yeah. No fucking one. I made a video on it. Yeah, yeah, you did, right? Yeah, I made a video on it. When was Penn Pine Pineapple Apple Apple Avenue?

It was like six years ago. I think it was like 2016. Yeah, they made a pop-up. They made a pop-up of pen, pineapple, apple, pen. I think it was at Tokyo Skytree or Tokyo Tower, whichever one it was. Right. But yeah, you go in and all of the menu items

spelled out P-PAPE. You know, because that was the only, that was it. Yeah, they didn't even have any, like, pineapple or apple-based products, and I'm like, I feel like you really missed the ball. It's paprika, right? It was like a pen, pineapple, apple, pen burger. And I'm like, what does this have to do?

with pen pineapple apple, with zero pineapple in the burger. Yeah, no pineapple in the burger. No apple. That's good though. I don't like pineapple burgers. I don't mind it if it's done well. But like even then it's like they couldn't even put the effort

to do that and it's like, oh, the thing I felt the most sorry about was the fact that like I looked at, there was like two like clerks who were like standing behind the counter and they looked so dead inside because pen, pineapple apple was paying on repeat in the store all day. I was there for like a couple of hours and I was like by like minute 20, I was like, I wanna get the fuck out of here. Just like, just shove a pen in my ear. Just like blur out the sound.

They look so dead. That's kind of how I feel like all of the truck drivers who drive around like fucking Harajuku or whatever and they have to drive around promoting these idols or whatever. Oh, yeah. This latest album. Yeah, have we spoke about? I swear we've mentioned it.

There's these trucks that drive around Japan where they'll play music. Yeah, really loud. They're called Decotora or Decorative trucks. Yeah. And they're awful. It's basically just like a moving billboard, basically. It's weird in Japan.

You can't make noise in your own apartment, but anyone can make as much noise as they want on the street. It's pretty weird, right? Someone can come around selling like hot potatoes and intrude our like streams. And people are running for government, just scream in public. Yeah.

It's just like, what year are we in? Where you don't you have like social media you could promote on? No, no. But no, I'm sure you're really connected with the youth of today. by driving around a truck and screaming. What do they expect for like everyone

to come out of their houses? It's like, guys, honey, wake up. The new politicians in town. I mean, even if it's older people, right? They're not gonna get up to go outside to listen to you drive by. Maybe that's why they're loud, otherwise they're not gonna like hear it, right?

So they just like broadcast, they broadcast all the houses. Honestly, probably. We gotta make it through the hearing aids somehow. It depends on an interesting spot where like they have to, political people have to try and go towards the older generation.

Yeah. So all the techniques they use seem like archaic as fuck. Yeah. It's the only way they can get elected. Because if you're not in someone's letterbox, they're not, they're not getting into Twitter. Weird, isn't it?

Weird, isn't it? Like, they just, the whole political system is just catered towards all. What I just don't understand though is like, yeah, I'm sure they're like, you know, being loud as fuck right on the street so that again, as you were saying late, then it can reach the old people's ears, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. As old age comes naturally, you become hard of hearing. Right. And yet these same old people, can hear like the tiniest creek from upstairs and be like, oh my God, that's too fucking loud. How dare they walk so loud in my apartment? Meanwhile, I'm having a really hard time

hearing this fucking politician on 17 megaphones just drive past my house, you know? I need them turn up a little bit louder. Well, I don't know, are there any laws around like how much noise you can make in Japan? Is it past 10 or 9? It's something like that, I don't know. I don't know.

I feel half the time, like, People just don't follow those laws. Yeah. And there's like always exceptions to the rule, like, you know, you could have like a bunch of like, like, how come, you know, all these like loud ass bikes that like drive through like neighborhoods, you know, not be fucking called on by the cops?

Does your, does your neighborhood have like, a gang of old Japanese grandmas? Who are just like, who are just like, who are just like the real, you know, the leaders of that fucking street or whatever. Because you have a house. Oh yeah, I have a house. Yeah, yeah.

You're in like a neighborhood area. I'm in an apartment, so it's not like that. Yeah, I'm in an apartment as well. Yeah, because Maylin like warns me about this before, before I was moving in the house and she was like, be careful about the posse of old Japanese grandmas. And I'm just like, what are you talking about, what are you talking about?

And lo and behold, like, now I've noticed, like, there's, there is this group of Japanese grandmas who like seem to run the neighborhood. I don't know, I don't know how this happened. I don't know why this happened, but you do one, you do like one thing wrong. Like maybe you take the garbage out just a bit too early. You see them, you see them eyeing you, you see them eyeing you, right?

I can tell any time, any time me and Sydney come out, like we could, we like sometimes they're just like gossiping together. Right, right, right. And like, you know when you can, you know when you could feel someone gossiping about you? That's every time like me and Sydney go out of the house. And I, they're always in the same corner. It's the same group of, same group of Japanese grandma. And I remember, we should wave at them and say hi.

Yeah, yeah, you should. No, I do. Yeah. For those people, what I've learned is that you just need to be like, ignorantly, like, happy and friendly towards them. And then they'll start to be like, oh, maybe they're actually right.

Maybe we'll take them off the hit list, you know? I feel like, okay, I feel like I've been put, I was friendly enough, right? It's the most moist. Sorry. Yeah, but I feel like I've been put on a hit list now because I did, unfortunately, take the garbage out on the wrong day.

One day. One day. Being on a Japanese hit list is just like they'll give you at worst a passive aggressive note one day. Yeah, I got that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you really? Yeah, remember I, in my old apartment,

I got that English written note. Yeah, that's the worst you'll get. They say they'll kick you out and they'll tell the housing company. And then I need Hongo-Jozu reverse Uno card and then they shut up, yeah. The housing company is not going to kick you out. No, of course not.

Unless you are actually taking the piss. But if you're just walking, they're not going to, the housing company's not going to give a fuck. They'll be like, okay, Granny. They'll be like, all right. Simmer down, come on now. So, yeah, so, yeah, one day, like,

normally we take our garbage out either, like, the night before or, like, the morning of. I don't know what's custom in Japanese neighborhood. It depends on your area. Yeah, normally it's, like, I think the morning of. But I remember, I think we woke, I woke up, like, slightly late that day. So how it worked in my place is that the garbage is one day

and then, like, the recyclables is the next day. I think that's most, I think it's most places. Yeah, yeah. So I thought like I was just on the cusp of like getting like, getting the recyclables out on the right day. Yeah. Because it's garbage, recyclables, then garbage again. Yeah.

And so I thought I was just on the cusp. Maybe maybe the garbage truck hadn't come yet. So I go out to the garbage spot and I see like some bags there. I was like, oh, great. I still met, I still made it in time. Yeah. And so I put, I put the recyclables out. went back in my house and just continued about my day.

And then I get, I get a ring of my door bit. Oh no. I get a ring my door bit. And I'm just like, oh, it must be a delivery or something. Yeah, yeah. And it's, I opened the door and it's a three old Japanese grandmas just staring at me. Right. Yeah, I am serious.

Oh my God. And I see my, my bag of recyclables right, right, right in front of my door. Right. And they, um, I mean, they, they, they, they, they, they nice, Honestly enough explained to me that I had missed the time and it was the wrong day to bring out the recyclables, but it kind of felt like some fucking loan sharks outside my door being like,

It'd be a shame if this would have happened again. Yeah, yeah. It's like repo, man. You do it again, we're taking everything. They are basically like the gangsters that run the neighborhood, you know. I felt like I just like missed out on the day on like paying the protection money of the day.

It's like, shame, shame what would happen? America has the Cripses. in the blots, we have the grannies. Fear them. They control everything. They're the real, like, it's like the fucking soprano, right? You know, it's the Japanese sopranos, right?

The old Japanese grandmother. Did you take the recycling out today? Yes. I heard of some really strict crazy grandmas you can get pissed off when, like, you know, on like cardboard boxes. Yeah. Like the Amazon labels and stuff.

They get like pissed off. You don't take those off. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've heard of some grandmas that get like, how dare you know. Yeah. Even though it doesn't make a difference. Of course not.

This is why I love, love living in an apartment building. Just take it down whenever I want. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No recycling day. No garbage day. It's like whenever you have garbage, take it down. Cardboard's the worst, because when you're moving in, it literally is like cardboard city. Oh, yeah, yeah.

And it's just like stacks upon stacks upon stack. I'm waiting for the day. And you're like, well, what's that in the corner, Connick? Well, it's the wall of cardboard, actually. It's one of the main attractions of the apartment. And I have so much cardboard. In fact, that I could probably, you know, how's everyone in the half of Japan?

Yeah. I mean, that's the thing where I remember when I was moving in, I felt like if you missed the day of the cardboard collection, then you were just like, you were just fucked, right? Yeah, but also you feel like, am I taking the piss with this much cardboard? Like, I have like a two meter high stack of cardboard. Am I taking up too much cardboard?

Is that allowed? What's the limit on how much recycling I can recycle? I remember the only time I had like a granny experience. when I was moving into my current place was when it was like the first week I was moving in and you know it was like the shitloaded cardboard thing right yeah yeah and cardboard day comes around I was like finally here we go this is this is where the cleansing starts right so I take out like way too much

cardboard like probably fucking half the Amazon rainforest worth off cardboard right naturally and then and then that the next morning I come out you know to leave for the office right and a grandma like stops me and she's And I'm like, oh no. Oh, oh. And she points at the mountain of cardboard and she's like, that's all your cardboard, right? And I was like, I mean, not all of it, but yeah.

Oh, come on, love it's like, yeah, most of it. And she's like, I think that, you know, you're really causing the, you know, rubbish people a lot of trouble with that much cardboard. And then I just reversed Uno card and I'm like, I moved in yesterday, puts on sunglasses, walks off. But legit, she was just like, oh, I'm just like, Oh, I'm sorry then.

I'm sorry about that. Yeah. But that felt good. That was the one time where I trumped the granny. I was like, you don't control it. Silence. Silence woman. You can actually, some moving companies are like to call them up.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did that, but even they, I had so much cardboard that the moving company could only take so much. Yeah. Cardboard. Yeah. Because I bought, because, you know, I moved into a much bigger place and I had needed to buy all this new furniture to fill up the space. So, yeah. But it felt good.

Felt good to reverse Uno Card. They're granny. Basically, you know, they think like organized crime in Japan is the Yakuza, no, just. It's the Japanese grannies in your neighborhood. Watch out, make sure you don't piss them off. Otherwise you're gonna be having a bad time. I've been leaving you for 60 years.

I know every nookie of these streets. Literally the day after they came, like I came back home and they'd slit this in my letterbox, just like the schedule, the garbage for like the week and the garbage collection. That's so passive aggressive. And I was just like, oh, this is, They're sending me a message.

They're literally sending me a message. You turn over the note and you're like, get this wrong again, you're dead. Don't fuck it up again, God. Gonna wake up in my bed with like a decapitated horsehair, I said. Like, don't get the garbage day right next time. Don't fuck up.

A dead salmon at your front of you. It's like, you better take this out on the right day. What day does oily containers go gone? Hmm. A shampoo bottle? A shampoo bottle is not recycling. Oh my God.

Oh my God. I love it. You have this like spreadsheet of like items that very specifically cannot be recycled and stuff. I have an app for it, dude. Oh my God. Yeah, like our ward created an app being like,

if you put in a certain item, it tells you exactly what day to bring it out. What sucks is that there's like, some items, you're like, what the fuck is this? It's like, you know, like styrofoam, right? Yeah. Where you had the packaging that's like thin, it's like a paper styrofoam. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You're like, what the fuck is this? Is this burnable? Is this paper? Is this? Plastic? I don't know what this is. This is a mystery. And every time I ask anyone, they're like, I have no idea.

I think it's burnable, but no one's like 100%. They're like, everyone's like, dude, it's not gonna matter. Just put it in the burnable. That's the thing. It's like, there's all laid out that like the grannies will enforce you on. But like, when you put it all into a fucking bag and just put it out.

I heard, I heard that apparently the recycling, even though they make you sort it very strict, that actually when it goes to the plant, apparently, I don't know how true this is, that it's not actually like, they don't recycle it as well as you think they are. Yeah, yeah.

I would believe that. I mean, fair enough. But fuck, dude. One time I went down to my recycling thing in my current place, I thought, hmm, I was just,

I was putting out my bottles and the bottle thing, and I noticed that there was like 10 plus Bombay Sapphire gin bottles. Right. And I was like, who has drank this much Bombay Sapphire?

This is a lot of you. It wasn't you, right? No, it wasn't you. I was going to say, I thought that was like, as another person who enjoys Bombay Sapphire, I was like, huh, I wonder who's bought this much Bombay.

Well, I'm gonna keep saying it. It's very satisfying. Bombay Sapphire. Clearly there's another British person in your building. I was like, either somebody's running a bar secretly in their apartment

that specializes in Bombay Sapphire cocktail. Or someone had a good night. Or there's a really depressed British person somewhere in this apartment building who is really, really spending a lot of money on gin. Yeah. I just thought, why would you have this many?

They were all neatly stacked. Like almost like a Jenga-esque stacking style. I'm like, this is definitely one person who brought, I wonder did they collect them for a long time? They thought, no, this is ridiculous. I can't collect this many bottles. Because somebody will keep their alcohol containers afterwards. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like a memory, but

yeah. When you drink too much, you're like, okay, this is how many? How many, how many? How many bomb-based sapphires is too many? I just thought, I was like, this is a lot. I'm like, what's going on here? I wonder, I was like, what a weird trash? Do you ever see people's trash and you think, what's going on? Oh, yeah. It's going on with that. Many times. I remember the weirdest one I saw was

it was a vacuum clean. that had been perfectly cut in half down the middle. And I was like, how did that happen? Someone was like, damn, man, I just wanted to see what's inside. It was like a Dyson, it was like the body of a Dyson, but it had been perfectly split down the middle. But there was only one half, and I'm like, where did the other half go? Sounds like some serial killer shit, but just one half.

It was only one half and I was kind of, I was like, for like five minutes I was kind of like looking around, seeing like, I wonder where the other half is. I couldn't find it. So he's either kept that. the other half or I've witnessed some crucial evidence of a crime scene or something like, I don't know what. It was so weirdest thing.

At least I was like, oh, well now I know what's inside of a Dyson. It's like something you see for like a YouTube channel. Yeah, right? What's inside of a Dyson? What's inside of a Dyson? What if I cut this Dyson in perfect? I just wanna know how they did it. They must have like, it's either someone has a laser cutter inside of their house

or they just went hand with a saw. I don't know what it was. Either they have a shorn. in their house or somewhere else, and then they brought half a Dyson to your apartment building, and then they decided that they are done with half a Dyson, and they're gonna throw it away.

That was the weirdest thing I'd ever see. So annoying having to get rid of big stuff in Japan. It is. You buy those stupid stickers from the convenience, and then you can't throw out a, if it's bigger than, I think, 30 centimeters in my apartment. Something like that. Which is nothing.

There's so many things that are 30 centimeters or bigger. And if you want to throw it away, you have to book, and it's normally like three weeks away. If you're lucky. Yeah, usually it's like a month. So normally now I figured out a genius strat, which is just break the thing down to below 30s. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then you're good. Yeah, it's like, you know how like in the prison movies, right? When they, when they escape from prison, that they start dumping the soil, like one by one. Yeah. In the courtyard or something. Yeah, yeah. It's like, all right, you've got to break this wall,

this cabinet into like small pieces and slowly recycle it every week. That's actually I saw it out the other day. Actually. People do it because they don't want to deal with, because this shit is so annoying. Someone had disposed of an office chair one part of a time. I get it, I get it.

I'm so genius. I remember, because like, I remember seeing, like, I would go take the garbage out. And one day I'd saw like the bottom office, like the wheels part and I'm just like, why is someone just getting rid of like the fucking wheels part? And then the next week I go, go to put the garbage again. And it's like the seat.

And then it's the seat. And I'm like, oh, someone's just playing Jenga with office chairs. And the next week, she'll go hold it. like the backrest. It's slow, but it's effective. This is the exact reason why I bought a saw. I'm not kidding.

I bought a saw just a saw shit and arms and I don't have to deal with this. I had a lot of wooden shit and I'm just like, I'm not paying to get rid of this fucking wooden playing. I'm just gonna sort this picture up. But it's also annoying because you have to measure it exactly. Yeah. And if it's even a little bit off, though they won't take it.

Yeah. And then you'd have another three weeks and buy those stupid sticker things again. I don't want to do this. I had like a metallic like coat hanger or coat rack kind of thing. And of course it was like way too big even if I took the parts off.

So what did I do? I put it back up, I put it on my balcony and just let the weather wear it down as much as possible. So the point where I could just snap it in half. You're that rust. I just let a rust to shit and then to grab the saw

or like just snap it in half to the size. I'm like perfect. Just let nature take its course. Erosion. Like three months later, I was like, all right, I can finally take this out. It sounds the worst way to recycle something. But I respect the, the, the,

effort you'd go to to not deal with the bureaucracy. Yeah, dude, it probably would have taken just as long to fucking book a time to throw this fucking coat hanger out. I just don't want to deal with it, you know? Or I just wait for someone to come over and be like, do you want this shitty thing I don't need? Just take it, please.

Dude, they made me feel like such a bastard for using batteries. Like, I just want to use some double A batteries and they make it seem like I was like using like some kind of radioactive material the way they could get rid of it. I'm like, what's wrong with me? I don't think I've ever like properly

got rid of my batteries, right? Because I'm just like, okay, I'll get rid of them next time, the other time. So I have like a fucking draw just full of like, used dead batteries that I've not been able to get rid of because I've always- Drawl in existence. Yeah.

Oh, I'm sure we've got a whole drawer full of batteries, Sydney. You go and grab a pair. None of them are working, Gant. That's what you should do is like a joke, just be like, just get one like actually working battery and put it in that draw and be like, there was one working battery. Good luck.

I'm gonna, special. I'm gonna get rid of it someday, but just like, I just keep forgetting the day to get rid of the batteries properly. Like the most fucked up sore trap. There's one working battery. You have 15 minutes. Find the working battery.

Oh my God. Yeah, I don't really use a lot of batteries, but for a lot of the filming stuff that we have. Yeah, it's basically all for the filming stuff. It's all for like mics, camera accessories. It's all batteries. It's really annoying because you have to get batteries to that and it kind of sucks.

I was like, get recharged with ones. Yeah, but I always forget to recharge. Yeah, but then if you get rechargeable ones, you forget to recharge before the shoots, which is like, you can buy a AAA batteries like everywhere. Yeah, so pretty good for that. It's pretty good. Always, always done well.

Anything else you guys have been up to this week? I was trying to think. We watched Denham me. Finished Odd Taxi. Oh, you finished Odd Taxi? That's surprising. Did you watch it in Subbed or dubbed? Subbed.

It was good. I liked it. Yeah, nice. A very fun show. I don't know how they're going to make a movie. Oh yeah, they are making a movie, aren't they? Yeah, I was surprised when they announced that they were making a movie

just because it felt like it just wrapped everything up. I was like we're done, aren't we? Also, it weirdly seemed like, I didn't think it was as popular on the surface as it made it out to be. I watched it, yeah. Did you watch it? Yeah. How we never talked about it?

I don't know. I thought I told you I finished it. No, you didn't. No, I would remember. It's because it's so rare. I would remember. if you told me you'd finished an anime, Joey. What the fuck? I liked it.

Yeah, I liked it. It was good. I liked it. But, yeah, again, like, I was surprised not only because, yeah, as you said, like, the show wrapped up nicely where it was like, how are they going to make a movie out of it? But also it's like, I don't know. I feel Autaxi was one of those shows where, like, it got really popular from word of mouth. Yeah.

Where, like, is it like, I was like, did it really get that popular to warrant a movie? I don't know how popular it got because I remember when I made my video on it, I was just like, I made it because no one was talking. about it at all. And I thought it was kind of like the underdog. I mean, everyone who watches it, I know likes it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's the thing.

It's like, it's one of those shows where, like, I feel you start watching it because someone who gave it a go was like, it was really fucking good. Yeah, I feel like it had a similar arc to Made in Abyss. Because when Made in Abyss came out, it just, no one was watching Made in Abyss at all. Because everyone saw the art style and everyone was just like, oh, this is a children's show, children's show,

which couldn't be more further from the truth, honestly. But then like it's a lot of children in the show I mean yeah it is a children show In some sense of the words It's one for the kids One for the whole family They can relate The children can relate

The children can relate The children can relate Which is But yeah I mean like It kind of like That was another show That really spread through word of mouth And then eventually like

One like anime of the year The year it came out as well Odd Taxi Air had a similar thing Where it didn't really have much promotion or anything like that. Not that I could see outside of Japan. In Japan, it actually had some kind of decent promotion because every time, I remember when it was airing,

every time we go in a taxi, they would have an odd taxi advertisement playing. Yeah, yeah, did you not see? No, I didn't really. Like they always have it like playing in like, you know, the little TVs that I have on the back of the taxis. Did they? Yeah, at least I did.

I saw a bunch of people. I didn't go on enough taxis to know. Did we? Did I talk about Tokyo Avengers? I watched that. I think you have not talked about Tokyo Avengers. Have you not? Maybe not on episode.

Well, I was trying to watch all the animas of the year that were nominated. When did you get time to watch anime? I mean, an episode here and there. It's very sporadic. Right. I was like, oh, Sunny Boy looks kind of shit. Yeah, you're not going to enjoy Sonny Boy. I looked at it and I was like, oh, yeah, it's for those anime fans that think that they're really intelligent and want something deep.

Your IQ wasn't high enough. But at the end of the day, they're just anime fans. I'll tell you he would enjoy Sunny Boy. I think you would really enjoy Sunny Boy. What? Okay, you are not, you're not the first person to say that soon. I don't know if I should be offended. There's this category of shows. And to me, I took one look at Sunny Boy and I was like,

oh, this is what fucking Reddit anime fans are gonna be like, this is the best anime of the year actually. It's- I listen to two soundtrack songs from it and I was like, okay, If the soundtrack is as good as the actual show, I think I'm gonna enjoy this. I just cannot stand shows where I feel like people like it just to be pretentious.

And that's like one of those shows that like I felt like the fans make me want to not watch it and despise it more than the show. Yeah, I get that. Yeah, I mean like, I don't even know if I enjoyed Sonny Boy. It's a really fucking weird show

and it left an impression to me whether I enjoyed it or not. Oh, that sounds like something I would enjoy. Yeah, I watched it and I'm just like, this is such a joey show. And then like, Like what would you give it out of 10? I don't even fucking know.

Like, to me, it's still, to me, to me like, it's still sinking in. It could be like, it's one of those. What does that mean? What does it fucking mean? Okay, okay, okay, I got the perfect analogy. Do you, have you watched like Donnie Darko? Yeah.

What did you think of it? I like Don Darko. What did you like about it? God, it's been so long. Exactly. I remember I liked it. It's been a very long time as I watched Doni Darko.

Yeah, that's like one of my favorite movies. Okay, so it's kind of like that. Can you watch it so then I don't feel bad about shitting on it? Because right now I just feel like I'm shitting into the void. It's like 86? Yeah, yeah, it's like 86. When I shit on 86, I thought, oh, no one's gonna contest me on this.

Turned out everyone got really fucking angry that I didn't like 86. But to be fair, I watched eight episodes of that and it was boring as shit. That's 86's fault. Sunny Boy is just 12? Sunny Boy is just 12 episodes. Okay.

It's like, what actually like, because I remember watching the first three episodes of Sonny Boy, thought it was boring as fuck. I thought it was like boring as fuck. Okay. This is like, this is like, this is like, holy shit, I'm gonna be like giga-lop. This is like fucking art house,

fucking pretentious shit. Um, and then like the soundtrack got recommended to me and I'm just like, holy fucking shit. Yeah. This soundtrack just like is everything I want. It's like a lot of soft rock, alternative rock in the soundtrack. Yeah, you listen to some tracks.

And I'm just like, I kind of wanna watch a show just because it's, yeah. I found it because I was buying a bunch of vinyals. And yeah, on the front page of the store that, the online store that I go to to buy my vinals. It just would not leave the front page. And I was like, what is this sunny boy thing? So I went on to YouTube real quick, looked up one song and I was like, yep, sold.

Yeah, right? Yep, right? And that's like, the best thing I can say is like the soundtrack just sets the vibe of the anime. Okay, yeah. Where it's less about the plot points and it's more about the feeling that it gives you. Did you ever get it? Oh yeah, I did end up finishing it.

I mean, like, I finished it and, I finished it. and I didn't know what to think about it, but I like, I knew, like, some of the ideas presented in Sunny Boy, it's just kind of like, it's one of the shows that you don't know exactly what you think immediately, but the, like, I just remember some scenes. So it's kind of like fully coolie in that sense?

Yeah, yeah, kind of like fully coolie coolie. Right, right. Where it's just like, fully coolie, Donnie Darker, that kind of thing, where you watch it and you're like, I don't really know what I watched, but some parts of it just really stick with you and just refuse to leave.

Right. That's how I feel with Sunny Boy. Yeah, I got to do that. Do you think it deserve to be nominated for an anime of the year? I don't think it deserved to be nominated for anime of the year. Didn't it win like the Reddit one though?

Like the Reddit anime? Yeah, yeah, no, no, no. It won the, art house pretentious time of anime. It won the Reddit, it's not the user, not the user awards. Oh, the critic. Oh my God. Which, which doesn't help, which does not help its image at all, was like the Reddit armchair critics

gave it the award for like anime. You know, I hate bashing on low hanging fruit, but yeah, I mean, there is sometimes normally an indication where I'm like. Yeah, I mean, like, I know, whenever I say like Donnie Darker's one of my favorite movies, I'm waiting for it. Like, I'm like dangling the low hanging fruit.

I mean, normally Joey's normally that guy. Yeah, in our podcast, he's like the pretentious. Yeah, I am. I am. With Donnie Darker, did you like it immediately? No. No. Yeah. No.

I only liked it maybe after like my second or third viewing on it. I was so young when I watched it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, that was the problem. Like, when I first watched it, I was like, maybe like 13, 14 years old, right? And when you watch those kinds of movies

at 13, 14, 14, you don't know what the fuck's going on. All you think is, oh, creepy bunny, wow. Yeah. But then I watched it again when I was like 17, 18, which is like the peak of pretentiousness when it comes to consuming media. I definitely had that face as well. Yeah.

Do you understand Donnie Darko? Only after I watched like a fuckload of like analysis videos on it. Right. But like, I had a friend who, who recommended me Donnie Darker during like high school or like middle school, who was like a massive fan of it. So like he would tell me like his theories on it

and we would kind of like bounce off ideas. And I'm like, I found that. I think that's the reason why I like a lot of those kinds of media because it's like, especially when you have another person or like a group of people to like discuss it and like kind of like theorize and hypothesize like, oh, this might be this or this might be that, whatever. Right.

Like that's kind of fun. And then, you know, once you actually like sit down and like read into what it's actually about according to the creator or whatever, then you just realize, oh, it's not as deep as all these fucking pretentious critics made it out to me. My favorite thing is when people like speculate

about media and stuff. And then the creator was like, no, that's not it. And then they're like, no, no, no, no, no, I don't think you understood what you did. I think it's actually this, sir. Literally the Evangangus. And here's the Ava. It's literally like, no, no, no, I'm not, la, la, la. My theory is right, please.

Yeah, no, I mean, I, I, I think there's anime that don't appeal to me as much. much unfortunately. Yeah, and I totally don't blame people. It doesn't even appeal to me. It's just like I have to be, I have to be like in a really specific mood that comes along once a year or once every two years where I'm just like, I just want to watch something and just not understand it and make me feel things that. I mean, the thing I like about this podcast is that the viewers can like align their who they trust's opinion on a show based on what type of media they like. Right. So if you get, if you're like more to me, I'm like, and I'm like, I don't like. I don't like

like 86 and I'm like you shouldn't then trust my opinion for other anime. Right. Yeah. Because I, like that show weirdly is like, people are obsessed with it. And I just didn't enjoy it. And I didn't know anything about the series. I didn't know anyone was talking about it.

I just didn't like it. Yeah. But I think it's like, I think part of being a good critic, at least or like, or talk like online at least or part of being a good critic is acknowledging that you have taste. Because people look at like people who talk about media online and they should be like, you should be able to judge

every single piece of media, objectively, equally, you know, you should be able to judge them with no bias. And I'm just like, that's complete bullshit. Yeah, like, like, you're not a fucking robot. Yeah, like when I look at, you know, for example, like, Dunkie, for example, when I look at one of his video game reviews, I know exactly what his taste is. And that gives me a better perspective than a lot of fucking IGN reviewers, right?

Yeah, exactly. Because at least when, when Donkey, like, I think recently, like, I saw his review of like, Horizon Forbidden West, and like, he, like, he didn't like, completely, he could, he, he, like, he, like, he, like, he, he, like, he, like, he, he, like, he, Not completely like compared to some JRP's, for example. But like I saw his criticisms and I was just like, wow, that this is like, I can completely understand

why he feels this way and I can, and like, but me, knowing what kind of gaming, I understand. I understand and that gives me a better perspective of what this game is like compared to a lot of other critics. Yeah, I would say like the best critics online are the ones where you continue to keep watching, even though you you disagree with most of their opinions. Just because their opinion holds, like,

even though you don't agree with it, they explain it and they're articulate enough and they're honest enough with what they like and the fact that, you know, there's no way to completely get rid of bias with anything. And they own that and you're like, well, you know, I knew before coming into this review that you were probably going to think a certain way about it

and I might not agree with it, but I respect the fact that you can still stick to this. Yeah, because it's just like probably everything I like in a game Connor's gonna complain about. Exactly. It's just like I, you know, and vice versa, right? Yeah, and vice versa, you know.

But that just comes with artes and games. Yeah, and that's fine. The same could be said about anime and stuff. I think I cut you off there. No, no, no, no, no. I didn't point out what I was going to even going to say. Yeah, Tokyo Avengers is okay. I really like the first half.

And then it got really shit. And now he's going to have Tokyo Revengers fans on his throat. Tokyo Revengers was, like, I saw the first four episodes and I'm just like, this is a read the manga show. Like, I definitely felt that. You know what I mean? Like, like, there's like a fight at the end.

Have you watched all of any, anyone watched all of it here? I watched the first like two episodes. There's a fight that goes on for like nine or fucking nine or eight episodes at the end. And it is like the dumbest fight I've ever seen in my life. That sounds like some eyes and shit, dude. And it's like, it's like just constantly, it is literally the fight of weight, there's more.

Yeah, right. Something happens, wait, there's more. Wait, there's more. And it's like, this is stupid. Just fucking resolve it. This is ridiculous. This isn't Dragon Ball. It's like every Dragon Ball fight.

This story has been somewhat concise. Yeah, they drag on a little bit here and there. They have had some long fights, but never more than four or five episodes, I think. It was just, it felt like this last fight in particular just took the absolute piss. Yeah. To the point where I was like, this is just stupid.

Yeah. And yeah, it had a good cliffhanger. But like, the last, I was so bored for like four episodes. But it doesn't matter, man. All the characters are hot as fuck. According to the fan base. They make these characters and like,

yeah, I like some of the characters in the show, but my God, are so many of them insufferable. And like, I just, oh, God. I mean, I like the show. I thought it was good, but fuck, man, I felt like it just, like, it blew its load and then it just like, it was like, is it even over?

Is it even over? No, no. It's not over, is it? It's not over. It's not. And I feel like where they left it was pretty good and it might pick up, but like, it just,

felt like every single time something happened, it was like, oh my God, there's more. Oh my God, there's more. I don't know. Like, I know this is going to sound really unfair, and this is totally my bias, but like, I think I only managed to make it through like the first two or three episodes

because I immediately saw what kind of theming they were going for with the story, you know? Yeah. Just like, a bunch of dudes, just like, you know, fighting, you know. It's weird as well. Good stuff, but in my, I hate the fact that the moment I knew where the story was heading, in my head I was immediately just like,

I'd just rather read Bucky to be honest. I was kind of pissed off as well that all of these kids are like 13, 14. Yeah. I was like, why not? Why? Just make them 17. It would make this story so much more.

But isn't it weird that you felt that? Make so much more sense. But here's the thing, isn't it weird that you felt that about that show? And yet you see Hanayama Koda, who's 14 years on. You're like, perfectly understandable. Have a nice day. Because it makes, for some reason, like, it checks out.

I'm like, I don't, I don't doubt it, right? Because backing never asks me once to, like, actually believe this world is a real world. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It just completely is like, listen, bro, this is literally like the equivalent of an internet forum, like debate

where you're like, can Goku beat Saitama? Like, that is Bakkey, right? Like, it never once asks you to be invested in this world. That's true. Whereas, like, Tokyo Revengers for me felt like it was trying to, it was trying to get me to get invested in the gangs and the culture and stuff.

And it's like, but at the same time, how are you gonna, make me believe that this is how 13 year old and 14 year olds react, that they like, that they drive by motorcycles. They do all this shit. And it's like, they're willing to like rob and kill each other.

Listen, if you make these kids 18, they can still be in school. Yeah. All of this would still make sense. And it's like just, just do that. Why? That's like, that's like basically 90% of anime where it's like, they don't need to be that age because nobody actually, their age actually acts like them.

This is one where I actually felt like it was to a massive detriment that they were like super young. And this every single plot point in this story. It's not so unbelievable, but like it made it so to the fact that you're like, it's constantly asking you to just have this level of disbelief. Right. To give it like, okay, I guess this is how 14 year olds would react and respond to this situation.

And it's like, just add on four years. They're still in school. This can work in college. It all still works. The universe totally works. It can work when you're an adult as all. And now they can ride motorcycles, no question about it. This is in Japan.

Yeah. No one is breaking the law in June. People don't even like, they, they, the only law they break is stealing umbrellas. That's literally it. That's all they do. They don't do that, that's what they do.

Yeah, pretty much. No one is gonna, how the fuck are they gonna get a motorcycle? 13 here. I feel like when I, like, the last time I felt that, like when I felt like the characters just weren't acting their age at all, was when I watched Erase. I was gonna say, I was.

Erase was just like, man, these five years, how old were they like five, six, oh, no, They were like nine, they were like nine year olds, actually like three. They're like, yeah, she's in the forms of relativity and quantum mechanics, we can actually predict when we were re-interred to space-time continuum.

They were like more capable than like, like, like, veteran detectives in the force and all this shit. And I'm just like, bro, these are like nine-year-olds and they're acting like grown adults. That's why I just couldn't get into a race. There's the exact same thing where I'm like, this nine-year-old, like, girl is like solving mysteries

that like, fucking 30-year veterans couldn't crack. I know we've rented about this. before and stuff. And we've, you know, we've talked all about the age and stuff. And I do understand that like a lot of shows, I don't give a fuck.

Like, it's totally fine. It's fiction. It's whatever. It doesn't matter. Yeah. But like, again, there are some shows like erased where I feel like, doing this is just completely to the detriment of the show.

And it makes you suspend belief beyond reasonable doubt. Yeah. I don't know. There's a lot of examples. I'm like, this is just stupid. I mean, like, there's also like, July and April as well where a big thing that took me out of the show is like, I feel like there are,

were in middle school or something, right? I think they're 14, 15. But like everyone talks like a fucking poet. You know, everyone, every, you know what I did. The writing needs to match the age. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't give a shit if you put him in the school. Yeah, yeah.

You gotta write 13 year olds like 13 year olds. So, Colse was talking like fucking Mozart was back then, you know, and it's like, dude, you should be, you're 15, when I was 15, all I was thinking about was poo, poo, pee pee, like. That's all I think about now, you know. So you are, You are way more sophisticated than you should be for a few years.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like this guy like came out of the womb speaking in sonnets and all this shit. Like he was studying Shakespeare by the age of three. Like my god, like, that took me out so much. And it was a small thing, but it was just like, you could have easily made them at a higher age to make them feel like they were, you know,

they had the ability to speak like this. But it was just, they were 14 years old. And that was the biggest thing that was, that was annoying. because sometimes it shows where like they write the characters like 17 year olds, they act and talk like 17 year olds, they behave like 17 year olds, why not just make them fucking 17 year olds? That's why I think to this day the most perfect example

of like a perfectly age and you know a character's acting age appropriate in a super realistic way was golden time because it was like they were in college and yet they were super immature like most college students are. You know like that's a realistic character. And that's why I love Golden Time. Yeah, and that's why that show was so good and it was so immersive because it's like, yeah, I know people who are like this thing.

There's such a breath of fresh air, I have something college. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But they were acting more like high school students than most high school students were, you know, in other shows. And it's like, it's so fucking ironic. Yeah, like that's what, I feel like that's why,

to me even now, Golden Time's like one of my favorite romances in all of anime, just because it actually felt like these were believable characters. set in the world that felt like it was based in reality. Yeah. Not in this anime world where 15 year olds are like... 15 year olds are doing quantum physics. Yeah, 15 year olds are doing quantum physics.

Like fucking, I mean, you look at fucking like Narito and Saske. Like they... Hunter Hunter was another one where I felt like they got the characters ages, like actually reflected their personality, you know? Yeah. Like gone was an idiot. But like a lot of idiot. Like he would like be convinced to do stuff by strangers.

Right, right. Like a 12 year old. Like a 13 year. you're unfortunately. No one over the age of 18 is hanging out with Hesoka, you know what I mean? Like, let's be honest. For good reason.

For good reason. For good reason. Everyone can tell you to Crete. But God's like, oh, he's talking to me. Okay, I'll talk bad, you know? I mean, like, I appreciate it when shows, like actually treat the characters like their age. Yeah.

It pissed me off. Because like a lot of people, like, for example, Narito, like, a lot of people forget that, like, in the OG Narito, they're like, he's like 10. They're 11 and 12 years old. Yeah. And like, you look at some of the shit they go through,

like Saski's like trying to revenge his entire fucking plant at the age of 11, 11. He's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's doing that, right? This man's listening to too much my chemical war onaster. Right, right. Get off that shit. I'm gonna, I'll avenge my fucking Big Mac if someone slaps it out of my hand down 11.

So I believe that actually. I was a very pecky, most realistic character. Yeah. Nah. I don't know, man. I just, I just kind of wish that it would, it would change a little bit. And then, you know, and that was one of the main reason

That's why I was a bit harsh on Tokyo Avengers. And that's why I got more annoyed at it because it felt like it was just getting stupid right now. I mean, I don't know if I'm just like, fucking, I've just seen so much anime that I'm just like immune to this shit. But just like, it's, it's very rare that a character's age really comes into like any kind of specific plot point or any bearing on the plot itself.

Because there's no, like, it's so hard to tell a character's age and anime based on just their looks and their actions. because the range, the range of anime characters from like 13 to fucking 28, they all look the same and they all act the same. It's almost like, kind of like Japanese people in real life, isn't it? Maybe that's why. That's not like why, right, right?

They turn into adults. Yeah, like you look at it, like a Japanese going, you're like, you can be 12 or 30. Did you see as well? And I'm kind of afraid of ask. As well for the Tokyo Revengers. They had to, they made an uncensored version. where, because they use the temple symbol a lot.

Oh. Which is unfortunately, you know, a sort of concern. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and really unfortunate. And then they just... That's a sense of that? They sent, they made a censored version where they just don't use the symbol much.

It's in the title. Yeah. Yeah. It's weird. In some ways, I'm like, I mean, I feel like they didn't need to do that, but I also kind of get it why they wanted to be careful. Yeah. I don't know. It's... Yeah, I mean, I can see why they did that.

It's unfortunate, but I mean, with how international anime is now, a lot of people could have taken it the wrong way, which is they don't have. Maybe a good moment to learn about another culture. Yeah, right? Yeah, yeah. Be like, what the fuck? I'm gonna Google, is this okay?

And then you see it. You know, to me, when I first saw it, I was like, whoa. And then you Google it, you're like, oh, okay. It's only been a symbol. It's been around for like, oh, that's a lot longer, yeah. It's very unfortunate. Did they censor it Narita as well? Because I remember, like, Nedgey's, like, clan symbol

that he had on his forehead or something, originally based on that, I believe. There's a lot of shows that I think use those symbols. Yeah, because it means like... It means peace. Yeah, it means peace. It's a Buddhist, right?

It's very unfortunate. It's the dichotomy of meanings. No, no, no, shit. Yeah. Niji has, like, cross. Oh, it's a cross? Okay. Unless that's the censored version.

Wait, wait, is that the anime version? Is that the anime version or the manga version? It was the anime version. Okay, so the manga version might have had. So the manga version of that? check. Yeah. Senten to they made a whole version where they added it

and then a whole other version where they just went through and got rid of it. Yeah. It's really on. I feel like if you're just gonna get rid of it, just get rid of it. Yeah, exactly. I mean, it's not gonna be a big,

it's not gonna be that big of a deal, but I was like, he's the unscensored one for you cultured interviews out there. Cultures. Yeah, actually culture. In a different, in a different religion. Yeah, yeah, so like in the manga, yeah, it was literally the mindy time.

Yeah, yeah, that's what I thought. That's what I thought. So yeah, it was. Censensensit. I get it. If you want to avoid the misunderstanding, I get it, yeah. And have the awkward exp- Guys, we promise, look it up.

Not a Nazi. It's the same thing with the Google Maps issue, but they change the mind-eas. Oh, yeah, yeah, because on Google Maps, they use that symbol to mean a temple. Well, I have that on mine. I'm an English, Google Maps. Oh, really?

Yeah, it's there. Yeah, yeah, it's... Maybe in other languages. I swear to God, on my Google Maps in English, I still see the symbol. Oh. Because, like, it was an issue, like, a couple of years back,

because I was like, what is this on the Google Maybe if you're like not in Japan. Yeah. I feel like it's on the person who comes to Japan to educate themselves. Kind of. Yeah, because they're the ones that are going to throw a hissy fit and look like an idiot. Yeah, like I understand it's a very unfortunate thing. Obviously, with whom Japan allied themselves with.

Yeah. I can understand why the mistake might be made. It's scary how 45 degrees changes everything. You know? Right. It's just a slight shift. It just completely changes everything. The power of 45 degrees.

The power of angles, they're scary. You either want peace or you want something that's definitely not that. Definitely the opposite of peace. The fact, Buddhism, I took a class in this, Buddhism doesn't actually distinguish between the orientation and which direction the swastikovac is facing, so technically all of them mean the same. Right, right, right.

But yeah, I mean, most people wouldn't know that, though. Yeah, yeah. You know, like, obviously when I saw it, I didn't feel like, I was like, oh my God, what is this? I was just like, oh, what don't I know? Clearly I'm missing context. I would like to be educated. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

I thought exactly the same way. I was just like, it's weird seeing that symbol, but I'm sure they would not be putting that. There's a good reason for that. I'm sure they wouldn't be putting that symbol if there wasn't a reason for that. I'm sure these 13 year old, get, uh,

this gang is not into that. I mean, I mean, I mean, I know it's a gang. See, if only everyone on the internet thought, you know, had rational thinking like that, you know, and instead of immediately like, Oh, how dare you know. We've said it a number of times, people aren't willing to give the benefit of the doubt.

People are more. That's got out the window in the end of the year 2022. So. Also, they forget that different cultures have different backgrounds and histories a lot of the time. That's what strange is that people really want to give benefit the doubt to the country or even hide behind the country's flaws

when it's convenient for them. But when they don't understand something, they're like, oh, well, you know what, I mean, I don't know, I don't know. They should have explained it better. Anyway, keeping on anime, I guess. I guess since I finally get to talk about anime.

Go on. I guess it's like, I didn't actually watch much anime this previous season because I don't think there was actually much good things. Oh God, don't say that.

Everyone would get angry. There's no good anime. You know, learned my lesson. 2021, well, I think 2020's been a pretty week year for anime so far. But I do like,

I guess like the only real recommendation I would have since you were going through like last year is a ranking of kings. That's literally the last one I've been mean to watch. of last year, and then I've done with last year.

I mean, it's continuing on to this year. So last year was, you know what I mean, it's a 23 episode show. So last year we only had like 12 episodes. Oh, I mean, I'll just wait then. Wait until it's finished. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's almost finished,

but I feel like it's only gonna be a part one of the story. But yeah, Rankin' Kings is fucking incredible. I've heard it's amazing. Yeah, it's like, unironically, a lot of people like, you know, Maiden Bist, didn't watch it because it looked like a children's cartoon. I also didn't watch it because it looked like a children's cartoon initially

but it's kind of like it's kind of like the closest thing to like a Ghibli movie I guess in terms of like aesthetic and feeling where where and I really don't like Ghibli movies but it kind of gave me that kind of you know when you're like watching an anime

fairy tale that kind of feels like that's like I can only point to Ghibli that gives you that same kind of feeling but that's the kind of feeling it's giving me but it also is written really, really fucking well. Like it's been a while since I've seen just an anime just this well written and with characters

this interesting as well. Damn. It's like, it's like to me like the spring season, sorry, the winter season was like basically Attack on Titan and Demon's lair. Everyone was like talking about that. But like to me, ranking of kings is like close to that level of quality in my opinion

of just like how good the show is. Well, I mean, there's also in my dresser up darling as well. There's also my dress up darling, but that like, that, that occupies a different space in my opinion. You know, you're a different faction. That's a different faction.

Yeah, true, true, sure. There's the, there's the, attack on Titan, demon slayer, like, core, and then the fucking my drone of darling all the way over here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is like, it was surprising to see, like, in Japan, my ranking of Kings

is really, like, shot up in popularity. I think it's like the most watched anime right now. It's because there's a lot, of voice actors who are saying how good it is. So like they're all like, yeah, this is really fun. There's a lot of power here. Yeah, they do. I mean, top tier celebrities here.

I mean, yeah, they're just like, they're not even just voice actors here, they're just actors with, uh, celebrities. They're just like, like, select, going to celebrity status as well. And that's why they can make questionable decisions, like Hana Zoha Kana selling NFTs, you know? Which, uh, I saw that and I was like,

this has to be a joke. And then I watched the video. I was like, please say, Say-Khan-a-kana, please. And then- I know, I saw a lot of people that were like, no, no, no, I'm sure it's just her management. I'm sure it's just her management. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, but like.

But she agreed to it. Yeah, someone has to give the go-ahead. Yeah. Like, even if it is like her management's idea or whatever. She's, oh, yeah, she might have a management, but she's allowed to say no. Yeah. I love that. It's like, you know, no, no, no, it's like, you know, no, it's like, you know,

the Japanese celebrities, like, no, no, no. Also, it's like, I feel that only implies to like, you know, kind of low-ranking talent, right? because like we're giving you this phone. Hanukana is literally top 1% of voice actors. Like she can say no to whatever the fuck she wants. You don't need no NFT's. And yet she said yes to the NFTs.

She takes any role she wants, you know. She can do any role she wants. If she says I wanna be in this anime, directors will be scrambling over themselves to be like, yes, let's get Hanukana in this. So the whole management thing is just bullshit. Yeah. NFTs, no.

She literally, it's just, that is just Hanukana fans in denial of the fact that she's promoting That is just like her fans snorting pure copium. Yeah, it's, it's just, I've never seen some of- copium being half, dude. Oh my God, yeah. It's insane amounts of copium, dude.

I think there's never been, like, one of my favorite memes is just like, I think it's like a Kuma image of just like thing and it's just like a depressed guy. It's just like Japanese thing and it's just like, like, his lighting up, you know? We've seen that image. Yeah, I love that.

And it's just, this, this is so true, it's so true. It's so true. pertinent than this time. The other version of that that I love is like, every Instagram post, it's like somewhere, and it's like really dark, and it's like somewhere, Japan. I mean, that's basically just the trash taste podcast

and a nutshell. But no, like, I remember seeing that post, and I was just like, oh, why did it have to be you? Why did it have to be? Right, it's like, if it was like some, like, D-tier, like, you know, I voiced like one fucking, passing by a person selling an NFTA, I would be like, whatever the fuck ever,

But like, you're literally one of the most notable voice actors today. I'm just like, is this how, is this how idol fans felt when their favorite idol gets through like a controversy or they find out they have like a boyfriend or something? Like, I think I get it now, man. Like, I'm just like, I felt betrayed, you know? It's like, why did it have to be you? Kind of Hannah.

Like, I'm not even like mad. I'm just like disappointed. Yeah, right? I was like, oh. I was like, oh. Come on, man. I thought, I thought we were better than this. Yeah, it was disappointing.

But yeah, I haven't seen anyone talking about it since. I just saw it on my timeline and I'm just like, well, that sucks. There were a lot of even Japanese people on Twitter just being like, no, no, the same. How did Japanese Twitter react to it? They're basically the same as how Western Twitter was like. Really?

They were like, dude, of all people. Brow moment. Yeah, it was a bra moment, yeah. Well, that's been your weekly reminder, the NFTs suck. Yeah, you know who else doesn't conform to NFTs? Oh my God, wonderful. You know, they could use that money to, you know,

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