Trash Taste Podcast - Roasting our WORST Takes on Anime | Trash Taste #21
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Welcome back to this episode of Trash Taste
that you just joined, so not welcome back,
with my boys today, Joey and Garb.
Welcome to this episode.
Trash Taste.
Welcome back.
Welcome back to Trash Taste.
As you should, with every Trash Taste episode,
you should go and watch the previous episodes
in order without break and then comes to this one.
It goes one, then two, then three.
Ooh, controversial.
Are you gatekeeping trash taste?
What if I wanna watch episode four
and then go back to episode four?
Bro, you're not a real fan.
I mean, you gotta start from part one,
then part two, all the way to part 20.
And then watch halfway through part three.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Jim.
And you're a real fan if you see
the OVA special episodes, then we know if you're a real fan.
If you don't know what we're talking about,
don't worry about it.
Sorry, Jess.
What are you talking about today?
I don't know what we're gonna talk about today,
Jay.
We hardly ever know what we're gonna talk about.
Yeah, I feel like, well, we have a few ideas we want to do,
but we'll save the special ones coming out.
coming up, but I mean, yesterday,
I'm why don't I tell you little story, boys.
Okay, yeah, it's Connor Storytime.
It's Conner Storytime.
I went to the DMV.
Gather around the campfire, oh my God.
This is already sounding horrible.
This is not a campfire story.
This is already so I want, so as you guys know,
none of us have the ability to drive in Japan,
but we all have the licenses in our own respective country.
Yes, yes.
And I thought, well, one of us needs to do it.
I'll do it.
I like driving, gone hates driving, and Joey's just Joey.
So Joey just stands there,
being like, I don't wanna do anything.
Joey doesn't wanna spend a whole day at a DMV.
No.
And more probably.
My relationship with driving is that it literally serves a purpose.
Like I don't care, if I can get from point A to point B
in a way that's like other than driving
or someone else can drive me, I don't care.
If I have to drive, I'll fucking do it.
But I can afford an Uber now.
I'm convinced that you wanted to become a rich person
just to get a chauffeur.
That's like, eventually.
That's the dream, right?
That's the dream.
I don't hate driving, what I hate is parking.
My God, like I get-
The thoughts of parking, yes, because I suck at parking, okay?
I barely pass my test when it came to like parallel parking.
The thoughts of parallel parking gives me nightmares.
Like I wake up in a cold sweat and I'm like,
what if the car doesn't fit?
And I make a fool of myself like spending 10 minutes
trying to get into the slot.
Because everyone's been on the other end, right?
Where you're trying to watch someone parallel parking.
They're just like, come on, it's not that hard.
And then when you actually go to do it, it's like,
oh, it's that hard.
I somehow nail like the hard parking
and then take 15 attempts for the shittiest, easiest parking
when there's like 100 people around me,
just watching me, like, really embarrassing.
But yeah, I wanted to get my license
because, you know, I wanted to have the options open.
Because I feel like you can still explore
a lot of Japan without a car.
Yeah.
It's just some places, you know, that further-
Once you're outside of Tokyo,
you pretty much need a car.
Yeah.
Comes a little more difficult,
especially if you want to really explore
If you want to stick to the main tourist stuff,
there's buses and stuff, you'll be fine.
But I wanted to drive and I mean,
nothing goes better with my beep boop,
deaf punk music than driving.
Like, I love driving with music, man.
It's so like, smacking that wheel, you know.
What?
Smacking that wheel on time.
You're like a dad.
Yeah, man, I love it.
I love all of it.
So I thought, you know what, I'm gonna get my license
because if you have a British license in Japan
and a select few of the countries,
a lot of European ones, they said like, America,
Only Hawaii and Alaska.
It was like, so only Hawaii and Alaska can do it.
If you're from any of the countries
when you don't, from those countries,
you have to do a test as well.
Why Hawaiian Alaska?
I have no idea.
I don't think it was Hawaiian Alaska.
It was Alaska and some other country,
some of us to say, which was really confusing
because I'm pretty sure,
don't they all drive on the same side of the road?
Yeah, I thought so, right?
Because the reason why American-
Maybe there's something we don't know.
Yeah, because the reason why Americans have to do
a driving test is because we drive
on the other side of the road, right?
Hmm.
Does Alaska drive on the same side of the road as Japan?
Alaskans, let us know.
Yeah.
So I had to go to the DMV and I knew it was gonna be a stressful process
because it always is with any driving.
I mean that's just universal but I can only imagine how stressful it is in Japan.
Yeah, because the extra layers you have to do.
Right, right, right, because you're like,
it was already hell in my own country.
Yeah.
It's probably gonna be hell again in Japan.
Yeah.
Times two and I had to bring a translator with me.
Yeah.
So it was just awful.
I was so glad the translator was not me.
I was gonna ask Joey, but then another friend offered and I'm like,
but then I was like, oh, you're under the DMV?
Sorry, I'm busy, I'm busy that day.
I can't, I'm not bad, man.
So first, I gotta ask, how long were you there for?
I got there at 8, 20 in the morning.
Why so early?
So, it's a line up.
Yeah, so right now, because I'm not sure if it's because of COVID,
but right now, only 10 people are allowed to get
a foreign license a day in the whole prefecture.
So it's like first come first serve.
Yeah, so whoever's that first gets it.
If you don't, you have to come back at 2.30 and wait,
but they give out the 230 slots,
at the 9 a.m.
So I was in the 230 slot.
Oh shit, Jesus.
I queued up at 8.20.
I was told on the website it says 9.30,
get there at 9.30.
Yeah. And then I called them up and I asked,
hey, what time should I get there?
They said get there for like 8.
Hey, so I got that 820 because I thought,
oh, it's no one's gonna be there.
Yeah.
There was already like 14 people lined up
when I got there.
And so I was in the second bunch.
So they only give out 10 licenses a day
in the whole prefecture,
which is like millions of people.
Yeah.
for foreigners and it's like, what?
How is this a thing?
Why only 10?
Like, they just do the first 10, like, go home.
At least it wasn't like the bullshit like,
you know, you know when they did like event gotchas
and stuff like that.
He's a ticket and if you win the ticket,
you have a chance to get in.
Well, we'll see, well, I'll tell you more about the story.
So it's like an hour away from me, so I have to get up at like 6 a.m.
Which is way over my like comfort zone.
I can wake up at 8 and be fine.
Like anything before 7.30.
I feel like shit.
the whole day.
So I get there and we line up
and then I have to wait an hour to get my ticket.
So I have to wait an hour to wait more.
So I then went to Coco's diner,
which is like Cocoa Havana.
Went there, stayed there for three and a half hours.
Jesus Christ.
Came back to the place, waited another hour.
Finally got to go in.
As I'm going in, this couple is like screaming
at the employees.
Like what the fuck or something in Japanese?
I remember some of it from anime.
So they were saying the bad anime
And I was like, I was like, that's a Nabi,
I was like, what happened is like,
apparently he didn't have the right documents.
Right.
But before we went in, they gathered us all around
and were like, hey, some of you are gonna be rejected today
for no reason.
They literally said that.
They said, we might reject you
and not explain why.
And I'm like, what?
What is this YouTube demonetization?
What do you mean?
I've come here all day.
And you have to bring like so many fucking documents.
You have to get like your license translated
at a different building.
Yeah.
Wait a few days for that.
Go to the ward office, which is another building,
get proof that you live where you say you live.
Yeah, bring your other license, your passport,
literally every single documentation
that you were ever a person to begin with.
Yeah.
And yeah, and then they grilled me for like an hour,
like asking me.
Asking what?
Well, so part of to get the foreign license,
you have to prove that you were in the country
where you got your license for six months
after the fact.
So I brought tons of paperwork proving that I would,
was in the UK at the time when I got it for six months.
And they just kept grilling me and asking me
pointless questions what I thought.
Like they asked like, did you have like a provisional license?
Which in the UK and I think in America as well,
Australia too? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You got a license before the actual license.
They're like, did you have one?
I'm like, obviously I had one.
I had to drive.
Yeah, I think that's part of the official process.
You need a provisional before you get a full license.
I don't think a lot of countries would let you
get the full thing without doing it.
And I said, I'll speak about Thailand, right.
Oh, okay.
I'm like yeah, of course I had that.
And then they're like, how long did it take you
to get your license?
I'm like, what do you mean?
How long?
Like, did it take like a week
or did you do lessons over a long time?
I was like, I did lessons over a long time.
And they're like, oh, did you,
how long did you ask, who cares?
Who cares?
Who cares?
You got the full license, right?
I'm like, I had it for five years
and she's like,
mm.
And then she asked why did you have it for so long?
I'm like, why did it matter how long?
Because in the UK, we don't have ID.
We don't carry around.
So most people get the provisional license,
even if they don't intend to drive.
Just as a form of ID.
Yeah.
So I'm here explaining like a cultural difference to her.
I'm like, so what did you say?
I explained that. I'm like in the UK, we don't really have ID
so people will get the ID.
But that's what that's what Japanese people do as well.
Is it real?
Yeah, there's a lot of like what we call.
Why am I being grilled for this thing?
Because in Japan, a lot of people are like known as paper drivers,
which means they have the license, but they don't have it to drive.
They just have it as a form of ID.
Yeah.
In, in the UK, people get provisional licenses because we use.
That's why I got it.
We used licenses to prove that we can get into bars and parks.
That's pretty much the only reason we get provisional licenses.
Yeah, so I had to wait an hour and I was like, cool, I'm, I'm, it's all going well.
She seems to be, you know, happy with it.
She's like, yeah, okay, yeah, no problem.
Just come back in two days.
I'm like, what?
What do you mean come back in two days?
Wait, so you didn't even get it?
I didn't get it.
Oh my God.
So you haven't got it yet?
No.
After waiting, how long did you, how long did you waste?
I left at 4pm and I got there at 8 a.m.
And it's an hour away from me.
So eight hours.
Yeah, like eight hours.
You wasted a whole day.
I lost a whole day.
To not getting a license.
To get the paperwork, to get the license.
Because I remember you telling me just before
that you were getting this.
It's all a bunch of fetch quests.
This is why they love.
This is why all the RPGs in Japan
have a bazillion fetch quest.
Because living here is a fucking fetch quest.
Every time you want to do anything,
it's like, okay, get the prerequisite items,
which they're all in different locations,
because of course they are.
Like they're not all
in the government building,
because that would be too easy.
That would make life too simple.
That's why Gatcha games work here,
because you even have the waiting time,
like the loading time where you,
you like think you got all the items
and then you have to like put it in
to like fucking, yeah,
you gotta craft the item
and you gotta wait until the item
is finished being crafted.
And then you pull the dud, gotcha as well
because you have to wait till 2.30.
Yeah, so they said I have to come back
on Wednesday, which is tomorrow.
So I'm going there tomorrow to do the eye test.
That's it. I do the eye test.
And once I prove I'm not fucking blind,
I get my license.
Imagine if they just reject you after that.
I would fucking lose it.
So you basically spend eight hours for someone
to tell you come back in two days.
Yeah, basically.
I know that DMV is bad in all countries,
but in the UK, I would never have it that bad.
It wasn't that bad.
And especially with how many documents you needed to grab before
just to get your license, like, just to be given a license as well.
That's crazy.
Because it's crazy because, like, Nabi, who went with you,
who's a friend of Alice.
Like, when he went, he had such an easy time,
but I guess it's because he got to be a license,
before COVID.
I think they've made it a lot slower from COVID.
Like apparently, and they also told me that
for some reason, because of COVID,
the amount of people applying has gone up a lot.
Well, yeah, because no one can travel outside of the country,
so therefore they want to travel inside.
Yeah, true, but I guess I would have thought
the other way around, but yeah, it's just...
Speaking to you has made me, like,
has entirely put me off from wanting to get a Japanese license now.
I'm glad at least someone on trash test now has a license
because we're just gonna ask you to show for us everywhere.
I just, I want it, I, even when I don't need something,
I wanna just do it because if I have the free time,
I know there's gonna be a,
I never wanna be in the point in my life
where like I need something and it's gonna take.
Oh I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm like that as well,
but I'm not gonna go to a DMV for eight hours
to be like, come back for an eye test two days later.
I didn't know they were gonna do that.
That doesn't sound worth it to me.
So I'm glad you went through the pain
because like I said, like I don't we know not to do it.
Yeah, now I know not to do it.
And I, like driving for me is a stressful experience
but that's probably because I've spent most of my time
driving in Thailand.
Oh man.
Because I never actually drove so much in the UK
because like I grew up in Brighton
and then moved to London for my job.
So I've never needed to be in a place where I drive frequently
until I moved to Bangkok and my God, driving in just Southeast Asia
in general is just nothing like driving in Japan
or driving in the UK or anything.
So let me describe what it is like driving in one of these kinds
of countries.
Okay, so in Thailand, we don't have road rules.
We have road suggestions.
That's, that's kind of, so we technically have rules,
but whether people follow them or not,
is up to the individual driver.
It's like a Mario car with like a lot more death.
Oh, it is basically.
So, like, you know how you change lanes?
There's like a system, for example, changing lanes, right?
You signal, and then the person, like, whether,
backs off.
Yeah, the person backs off, whatever, like, whoever has the right of way.
The right of way in the way in the way,
Thailand goes, okay, we're gonna play this game of chicken.
Okay, so imagine, imagine I want to change lanes or someone wants, someone else wants to change
lane and there's a car just like behind them or like in the same lane.
So the person's gonna start changing lanes and either one person backs off or the person
changing lane backs off or we're gonna crash. And so there's, there's no rule to say who
has to back off. Right. So one of them is gonna back off or you're gonna crash. So it's basically
who has the bigger balls to like not give
He's gonna be the bigger man.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
It's wild.
I think like, Thailand looks scary.
There's other countries even worse, I think.
There's like, I think in Saudi Arabia,
the number one course of death is car accidents.
I wouldn't be surprised.
It's crazy because I don't think any other country,
it's even up there.
I mean, I went to the Philippines a couple of years ago
to go to see Aki's family
and we had to drive through Manila.
And that was one of the most terrifying things ever.
Because not only is there no lanes,
and it's the same thing, like,
it's just whoever gets in there first,
but there's also people just on the road,
just in the middle of the road trying to cross.
The worst thing is like the people on the middle of the road
who have just no fear of death, and then motorcycles as well.
Motorcycles are like the fucking, like, annoying housefly
that you just can't like fucking swat away,
but they're always there and you always need to be aware of them.
Like driving in Bangkok, you just have to like,
you just have to master ultra instinct.
They just, every driver just needs to master ultra instinct.
You just have to be like rain man basically.
They've always talked about.
They're fucking men turned on.
That's why they can all drive, right?
They got like the, like, the fucking observation hacky,
like, permanently turned on when you're driving.
And it's not just a motorcycle either.
It's like a, it's like one,
it's like a motorcycle that's normally for like max two people
that somehow have like eight people on it.
And I'm just like, what?
Like sometimes there's just a motorcycle
and there's just like the entire family
on the motorcycle plus the chauffeur as well.
It's like a clown car on a motorcycle.
Don't stress me out so fucking much.
Like, it's funny because Bangkok,
living in Bangkok,
you often take motorcycle taxis,
even though in any other country,
you would not take it.
And I describe Bangkok as like the only place
I've been to in the world,
where I will willingly risk my life every day
going on a motorcycle taxi
so I can save myself from sitting in an hour of traffic.
Oh my God.
That's the kind of city it is during rush hour.
And that's just given me a huge,
I wouldn't say fear of driving,
but just every time like I think about driving,
it just gives me a cold sweat, like, oh,
I gotta get back on that road, man.
Or you've got to be a huge, man.
Or you've just like perfected your like dodging techniques.
Yeah.
You got hit in the UK by some asshole.
Not really?
Yeah, yeah, I got.
So we were on, I was driving to,
we have like a yearly house party where a lot of my friends
in the UK catch up.
And I was sitting in the car with Alan, my editor,
Alex Allen's girlfriend, Sydney and Dee, Revel House.
And so we were on like a country road.
And we had just like, there was a car in front of us,
so we just stopped.
And I like did like a kind of like a sudden stop.
Yeah.
Cause car in front of us like did a very quick stop.
And then D was about to say nice driving Gant.
And as he was as like the sound was leaving his mouth,
boom.
A fucking car just like tailends my car.
And it fucking destroys my car.
Jesus.
And like like my car is fucking
walking totaled and the car in front of us has the audacity
to be like, yo, this was your fault by the way.
When are you paying up?
And the car behind us was like, so during the interview
when the police came, we called the police,
we got, you know, everyone got checked up in an ambulance
and apparently he just, he was going like 60 or 70
down a crunchy road and he just had his eyes off the road.
He was like, yeah, I just took my eyes off the road
for a second and who knew a car could creep
up on me in one second.
Oh, yeah, dude, it's terrifying the country roads.
Like, I mean, I learned to drive in London,
but I also drove a lot in Wales, but like,
those roads and Wales are scary, because they're all,
like, thick trees, right?
And really tight roads, especially in, like, Wales,
and then probably in Devon as well,
where we were in there, like, there's, like,
fucking trucks coming all the time on these roads.
It's like a one-way road, or?
It's, it's two, but when you get the big trucks,
it's like, you can have to, like,
stop and put into a ditch.
And, like, so sometimes, like,
and they're normally 60,
because they're national speed limit.
60 miles, right?
Miles per hour.
And then they'll just be like,
trucks coming and you really have to like,
I feel like truck drivers in every country are like.
They don't give a fuck because why would they?
They win every time.
If I had to rock the destroyed paper,
of course I'm gonna pick rock.
They're like the jocks in the school hallway, right?
It's like you have to move out of the way
because they're not gonna move.
Yeah, I mean that was the only car crash I've been in,
but there's been many, many close calls
as you can probably imagine in Bangkok.
Like the health and safety in Bangkok,
especially on the roads, is very worrying.
How does an ambulance get to you?
If you-
I've wondered that exact,
I've wondered that exact same question during rush hour.
Monosikely amos, like,
like you can, I guess you just gotta fucking bleed out
on the road, right?
Because what's even, what's even scarier, right,
is the taxi drivers in Bangkok.
Because it's such a roulette wheel.
Okay, so for one, you'd expect one of some,
one of the most dangerous cities to drive in
to have a lot of like,
safety measures on the public transports, right?
So most taxis, you go in the back
and there's no seat belts.
Some of my, some of the closest near death experiences
I've had have been on a fucking taxi
because taxi drivers, they don't get paid the most as well.
So they work ridiculously long hours.
So I remember this one time, I was, I was,
I had a night out and we stayed out to about like three, four a.m.
Drinking at some Izakiya in like Bangkok or whatever
and we had to go home.
And so we get a taxi home.
And the good thing about driving back home
in the middle of like 4 a.m.
is it normally driving there takes two hours,
but when there's no traffic, it takes 30 minutes.
That's kind of like the time you add on
when you don't factor in traffic.
Right.
But we get in, so it's me in Sydney,
and we get in this taxi.
And this guy, this guy just seems really quiet.
And then he's, we get to the highway
and he's doing like,
fucking 80 to 100 miles an hour on this, on,
on the freeway, right?
And then Sydney's like,
Sydney's like a sleep in the taxi.
So it's just me and it's complete silence.
And then he just starts like swerving a bit.
He just, you know, you know that thing?
Where you wake up, you're like, whoa, whoa.
And I'm like, okay, we could have crashed right there.
So I asked him, are you okay?
And he's like, yeah, it's, I'm completely good.
I've just been out for like 36 hours.
I'm like, pull over right now, pull over.
Whoa, whoa, hold on it.
Hold on a second.
And to explain something about,
to explain like something about Thai culture,
we have this thing called a Maipenlai attitude,
which the closest translation is like a,
Dajjubu, it's okay kind of attitude,
which, you know, it's great when you're on holiday,
you know, because the reason Thailand's so great
when you're on holiday is because everyone's so relaxed,
you know, is stress-free.
But there are some, some situations
where it's very, very not a, very not a my-pen-lai situation.
And this was, this was one of those,
situations. So I'm asking him, are you okay?
You sure you don't wanna pull over?
We can get another taxi. He's like,
myp and like, mipeen lie, myp and lie.
And I'm like, bro, this is a very not mypen lie situation
right now that we're in.
I'd be next to him the whole time like slapping his cheeks.
No, I literally, I was literally in the back seat.
This is no sea belt, by the way.
This taxi did not have a sea bell and this guy,
just I told him to slow down and he goes, okay, I'll slow down.
So he goes from 100 miles an hour to 80 miles an hour.
I'm like, bro, like brilliant, brilliant, brilliant.
But, uh, so.
Everything is not mindful, right?
Yeah, yeah, he's like, my, my, my life.
And like, every, every five minutes, he would just like,
I could see him nod him off, nodding off to be like,
ugh.
Dude, this is where you get in the front seat next to you,
just stare at him, like, listen, like, the fucking L,
like, like, like, like, like, just like fucking.
Because, like, Bangkok has like a, like, a,
like a highway, so it's like an elevated highway.
So we couldn't, I couldn't just tell him to stop
and, like, and we get another taxi,
because we're in the middle of the fucking highway.
So I'm, I'm, if you're in a fucking Japanese taxi,
so he'll stop on the highway.
They don't give a fuck, they're crazy here.
Yeah, so basically I was in,
it was the most stressful half hour of rides
I've ever been on.
Sydney was like stress free, she was asleep.
She could have died in asleep.
She was the only one was my own one.
It's a good way to go, I mean,
I know I was up like fucking pissed out my mind
at 4 a and being like,
trying to have this conversation with this taxi drive.
I was like, I was just trying to keep him awake
and he was telling me like, oh yeah,
you know, I've got like two kids
waiting for me at home and I'm just like, dude,
after this taxi,
drive, go home to your fucking kids.
Just think about your kids.
Sleep for fuck sake.
Please, please, just think about your kids right now.
My God.
And yeah, that was, that was one of the near life,
you know, that's experience.
That's that God, it's always like, yeah,
Connor, come to Thailand, it'll be great.
I'm like, bro, what do you mean?
You make it sound like it's fucking Jason Statham movie
every time you talk about it.
Holy shit.
They're fast and furious.
You're keeping this man awake to save your life.
What is this?
Yeah.
It's like, it's like,
Yeah, I'll say earlier, like Japanese taxis,
they just stop anywhere.
Have you noticed that?
They are the jocks in the school.
When I tell them, they don't move.
When I tell them to stop around somewhere,
they'll take that literally and they'll stop
in the middle of the fucking busy highway.
And they'll be like, all right, here you are.
And I'm like, bro, what are you doing?
Get through like a side road or something.
If you don't specify, like, can you stop like down the road?
If you just say stop, they'll be like, okay, stopping.
Yeah, they stop.
That's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
If I say it like, Tomado, they stop.
I'm like, we're in the middle of an intersection.
Maybe you should like,
He went forward a bit.
He did that when we went to the,
we had ramen last week
and then he stopped at the intersection.
Yeah.
Just stopped.
And I'm like, I'm not getting out of the car.
We're in a fucking intersection.
Like, bro, where are you sure?
It's so weird.
I don't know, because they follow road rules
so strictly here, but then for some reason,
taxi drivers just don't.
And it's funny because I notice on the British government website,
when you go to Japan it says,
be careful of taxi drivers because they just stop anywhere.
Yeah.
Especially when driving.
Yeah.
Because if you're behind a taxi driver in Japan,
you're driving.
he will probably just stop, like full, full force,
just full of, it's crazy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, like the, like road rules,
or like who has the right of way,
kind of confusing me sometimes.
And okay, zebra crossings.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we have that.
Zebra crossings in every country have a different meaning,
and I don't know what it means in Japan.
Like, so to explain, in the UK,
if there's a zebra crossing,
the pedestrian always has the right of way.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, you never need to fear for your life.
fear for your life if you're near a zebra crossing.
You're taught to stop.
As a driver, you stop even if you see someone walking near it.
Yeah, like slow down.
Exactly.
But you know, in like southeast Asia,
zebra crossings mean nothing.
It's a suggestion.
It's a suggestion, right?
In Japan, I don't know what it means either.
Sometimes they stop.
They're supposed to stop, but they don't.
I've had instances though where I've stood
like at the front of the zebra crossing, right?
They won't stop and like five cars just passed by.
I'm like, can I go?
You have to like start walking in the road
and then they'll stop.
I'm playing fucking chicken.
I've got to just walk in the road and be like, halt.
I have the right of way.
Cease.
Sees.
My lord.
And then go.
It's weird.
I don't know why.
You'd think that, you know,
considering how strict their road rules are here,
and everyone leaves so much room between the cars here.
I noticed that.
It's like three cars were.
Yeah, in the UK, it's like this much.
But in Japan, it's like, all right, leave a car,
at least a car.
That's why I'm kind of glad that Japan doesn't have,
like, roundabouts.
Can you imagine?
Oh, God, it'd be terrible.
Like just how much of a fucking kid.
No one would like,
No one would give way.
Everyone would just be waiting for someone to come in.
No, no, go, no, does it all.
Please, go ahead, go.
No, because there was this, like,
I don't know if it's an actual road rule,
and I wanna preface, I don't know if it's an actual road rule,
but in Australia, we were taught,
and some people were taught that when you're in a roundabout, right?
Usually it's like whoever's in the roundabout first, right?
It's basically like, once you're in the roundabout,
you have to give away to whoever's in the roundabout, right?
Yeah. But in Australia, some people were taught that,
like, oh no, you always have to give way
to the person on your right.
And I'm just like,
but then what if there's four people at the roundabout?
Who's gonna give way?
It's kind of like if you see them
and they're far enough away on the right,
it's like, I guess go.
This is why I hate roundabouts.
There's no like super like rock solid logic
that you can apply.
Australia's the land of fucking roundabouts.
Because we have around about everywhere.
We have so many in the UK as well.
It's kind of like, you just gotta be like,
Americans are like, what the fuck are you guys talking about?
Basically you just like kind of have to,
you see a car coming, you're like,
do I think I can get this car in gear and go?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That just brings an extra lay of stress to my drive.
Because it's like playing a quick time event.
And if you fail the quick time event,
you just crash.
Joey drives automatic, so he's lucky.
Oh, God, yeah.
Because the worst part is because you obviously
have to stop most of the time of the roundabout.
So you're like in, you're not in gear.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you're like, you see a car and you're like,
I've seen this car, I have to quickly decide
whether I can get in gear and go.
And if I'm fast enough to not make that guy slow down too much,
because it's just a mess.
Oh yeah, dude, it's easy for me
because I was just like, can I make it?
Yeah, I was flooring.
I'll just press the go pedal.
Yeah, I'll press my go pedal, I'm just kidding.
But yeah, I did my driving test for a manual car, right?
And this driving test put me off driving manual
for my entire fucking life.
Okay, to explain, I think you're allowed
16 minor offenses, right?
60, oh, oh, were you driving?
Miner, when you're driving test.
What registers as a minor offense?
Like, like.
Like not indicating?
No, no, no, that's a major one.
Like maybe going a little too early,
leaving too much time.
Oh, okay, okay.
Stuff that doesn't matter, but if you do a lot of them,
it would be like you're a shit driver.
Stuff that won't cause an accident.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
If your tires like hit a curb, I think that's a major.
That's a major offense.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So like that's the level of, okay, okay, okay, okay.
But like a minor friend is something that can't cause a crash
or anything like that, I think.
But I got 13 on my-
Holy shit, God.
I got 13 on my driving test.
Oh my God.
I thought I'd failed, right?
So I'm gonna test the limit.
And I swear, like, because I was so fucking
It was my first time, it was my first attempt
at a driving test as well.
And I remember this, there was always one road.
I was super fucking terrified, would be on my driving test.
And of course it was on my driving test.
And so driving a manual, driving a manual car,
it's a hill start.
Oh, I heard that as well.
Yeah, it's a heel start into a roundabout.
Oh, same, same.
Oh my God, oh, like that, that.
I remember when I pulled up, and normally I hope
that the roundabout's fucking clear.
Of course it's not clear, you know.
So you're playing about five different mini games at once.
Yeah. And if you store the car,
if you go too early, go too late,
or do any of that shit, you fail the test.
And that like the experience of having to drive manual
and you, because with driving manual,
you are constantly playing a mini game
where I just wanna shut my brain off.
I wanna stress free driving experience.
So yeah, that's why I've driven automatic
my entire life since then basically.
I've never driven in automatics.
I don't know if it's like,
Really?
Yeah, I want to though.
It'll be like fucking putting the antenna on
in Mario card for you.
To see, like, it's just like baby mode.
It's like, how do I crash?
How do I crash this?
Dude, on my way to the driving test,
I did like everything wrong.
Like I didn't indicate, I ran a red light,
I fucked up on a roundabout, nearly caused a crash.
My driving instructor was like,
it's okay if you have to do it twice.
You know, it's fine.
And then I got like two minors.
That's it.
I like went in like Nen mode, like focus.
I just like killed it.
And I was like, wow, okay.
Damn, I'm good at this for this very
small point during the day where it mattered.
It's not as bad as my uncle.
He failed his first driving test.
And you, do you wanna guess how he failed his first driving test?
What do they do?
Do you do you do you start at the DMV in your driving test?
Or do you just start at a random road?
We start at a random road for...
Wherever you parked your car.
So in Australia, you start at the actual DMV
and you have to go out of the DMV, drive around,
come back to the DMV, and then once you're back at the DMV,
then that's the end of the test.
My uncle went out of the exit.
of the exit.
No.
Of the DMV.
Okay.
So he got in the car, he started it up,
drove out two seconds later, it was like, you failed.
Why? Because he drove out of the exit.
Oh. So he drove out of the entrance.
That sounds better than what happens in the UK.
In the UK, if you do a major, like major mistake,
and you know you've done it, you have to complete the test.
Oh, really?
They don't tell you you failed immediately.
You just, you could like do something
and you know you failed,
and you still just have to go through the entire
test knowing that you've already failed.
The moment you failed, they just immediately tell you
and they tell you to drive back.
Because to the instructor, they're like, oh, sweet,
we finished 15 minutes earlier, I could take a break.
So they changed the UK test from when you did it now.
So when I had to do it, there was like a portion of it
that was with like a sat nav.
And then there was another part where they were like telling me the directions.
I hated it when they were telling me directions.
Oh yeah.
I'm like, what, what need to be tested on this?
This is like testing my ability to use like a quill.
It's like, I'm never gonna use this.
Like, just give me the little robot that talks.
I can see where the map is, I know what the,
like, when you say right to me,
10 seconds before, my brain goes dumb.
It's like, right, right, right, right.
Right now, right now?
Like this, this right.
Like this, this right.
Like my right, my brain is like, bro,
when I hear directions.
That's the way, I'm driving.
I'm like, bro, I'm trying to change gear.
Shut the fuck up.
No, what they're testing you for is for fucking backseat drivers.
Yeah, just being like, don't right, right, right, right.
I'm like, yo, can you judge my mixtape at least?
Can I get your thoughts?
It's like, that was pretty sick.
If I failed the test, at least I'd want to put the mix tape on.
Just slip that in.
I'll give you the mixtape for free if you let me last.
Can we just put, like hook up my or something?
Come on, man, this is.
Don't play anything cringe.
All right, I got you.
You start playing all the fucking anime openings and everything.
Oh, fuck, I love this opening. All right, turn right?
Oh my God.
So, yes.
So yeah, so now I know not to go to the fucking DMV in Japan.
Thank you for you for.
Thank you for taking the bullet for us.
Now we don't have to hire a chauffeur
for trash days, we just have you.
Can't wait to go tomorrow.
Yes, moving on from driving,
that was a pretty big tangent.
I have an announcement, gentlemen.
Oh, go on.
Like, I think after 10, 12, 13 years,
I may, may have a new best girl of all time.
Oh, wait, who was it before?
Senjegahara.
So ever since...
I like white bread too.
So ever since the very first time
I watched Bakimonegatari.
Like Senja Gahara has been my wifu.
You know what I mean?
She's always been the top tier girl.
And like people have come close, but no one.
Where are you going with this?
But no one has come close to dethroning her.
But recently I caught up to the rent-a-girlfriend manga.
And I think that like Chisaroo
is in contention for being like my best girl of all time.
Really? Yeah.
Which like leads me to the question.
Like when like when did you first,
know that you had like a, like a best girl.
Cause I know who's yours is, Joey.
Yeah.
And I know Con is losing his mind at this question.
This is like when people are like on the forums
are like, how did you know you were in love?
Like what, what did you feel like you're in love?
Is it like the stomach?
What is love?
What is love?
And when did you first fall in love?
Okay, I mean, first of all,
I'm surprised that Shingyogahara was like your wifu
because I always thought it was fucking Oscar.
I mean like us, us,
Wasa was someone who I could just respect for.
Connors is dying in his corner here.
Aska isn't my wife who she's just someone I respect.
Iska likes 15?
No, she, well, I mean, depends on.
Well, this is the biggest, no officer, she's a, uh, uh,
she's a drawing.
I mean, if we, I don't know if I want to open up that debate,
because that debate is a fucking landmine of takes.
Yeah.
But, yeah, I mean, like,
We can open that up.
I don't know if I want to, man.
Because you'll get a little competitive.
I'm in the worst position for that.
I'm in the worst position for that argument.
Because you know there's no good defense for yourself.
Oh, I mean, yeah, but I also don't really care.
You know?
It's like you don't need a defense to be like, yes, this is my girlfriend.
I don't care what you think. I love her.
I mean, I don't think it's like, I'm not trying to,
there's people who are like, yeah, it's pedophilia.
I'm like, I don't know about that.
That's stupid.
But like, I think there's gonna be something
a little suss about being like,
yeah, they're my wifu.
Yeah.
I'm not gonna willingly, you know,
walk into a courtroom and being like,
here is my defense.
Your Honor, she was a drawing.
Yeah.
Which, you know, like, okay.
Your Honor, I have a birth certificate.
She's technically 900 years old.
Like I do think there's a huge difference
in like having a wifu and, you know,
like sexualizing.
That's true, okay.
A wifu is like a character who is a female,
I guess most of the time.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, exactly.
I get that, I get that.
Yeah, and for me, it's always been Senja Gahara,
just because I, like, from watching Bakamu Nagatari,
like, I love the personality and-
Why?
Huh?
Why?
That was the biggest, huh?
Huh?
Huh?
How dare you even question?
How dare you even question?
Why?
So I can, you know, think of some excuses
when I need to protect myself.
Just because, like, her interactions with Araragi
were some of the most entertaining, like, interactions,
I had seen in anime up to that point.
I think it was like the way she was written
and the way like,
it really, what really sold me on the show
was basically Sanja Ghares' interaction with Araragi
and how their romance developed
and how her character was explored as well.
It was just something that's like her character arc
just really resonated with me.
And I think that's what really a wifu is.
It's a character who really like resonates
with you on a personal level.
Like you don't necessarily view
them as a life partner or anything like that.
You were just like, damn, man.
It's just a character that whatever they do,
you just fucking love.
Like they can say or do anything
and just how they react and how they are.
It's just like the highest tier of simping, right?
And Joey Hood and saw all of that and was like,
nah, give me the one who sucks my neck.
Yeah, pretty much.
Nice character development, bro.
How about you suck my neck?
Senja Gahara is not my wifu,
but I fucking love her as a character.
Yeah, like I love how everything she does and says
is deadpan as fuck.
Yeah, exactly.
I love about it.
It's her deadpan delivery and deadpan humor
which really drew her to me.
And then it was exploring another side of the character
her more vulnerable side, which made me like,
okay, I'm simping, I want you to be happy.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I totally get that.
I'll take that Bruce.
Yeah.
One of the Gautari's really good at that though.
That's why there's so many wifers.
Yeah. But no, I agree.
It's like every time like Shinobo,
like his shot came on screen, like everything she said and did,
I was just like, I fucking love it.
I don't know why.
I can't explain it.
to you in words, I just love it.
That powerful that when you're done watching it,
you're like thinking about it.
I mean, like, she's such a good character.
Have you had, never had a character,
like, wifu or not, like, female or not,
that you've just like, kind of resonated with?
Yeah, you can have a husbando as well.
Yeah, I have a husbando.
Yeah, I think so, I think so.
I don't know, I can't name it.
You can't name it.
Of the top of my head.
I don't know.
Yeah, I know, I can't really think of any immediately.
Do you have a husbando?
Um, I'd have to think about it.
Because my husbando is a usuuu from Kai Chai Chua Maid's
Maidseller.
Oh, okay.
A guy.
Yeah, so Malyne's like, all right, that's a good choice.
Wait, what's it called in English that show?
Kajor Maid's, is president, is the, is a maid.
I don't think I've seen that.
Do you want to explain his character?
Okay, so Usoy is like the, I guess,
so Kaichua Maid Summer is based of a Shōjonga
from like the early 2000s, I believe,
and the anime's from like the early 2000s.
But basically, it's the story about like how the school,
like, class president, basically,
is like, you know, normally the anime troupe of class president
is like, you know, that they're very like pure-hearted,
they're very like together, you know,
they're very adult for their age kind of thing.
But this particular Kai-cho is also a maid at a maid cafe.
And she gets-
Sounds like I could relate to that.
So basically it's like a complete opposite, right?
And so basically she gets found out by this like fucking hunk
of a dude called Usui who like all the girls fucking love.
And so it's this like special relationship
where he's trying to hide.
the fact that she's not actually this like all together,
like, Maytime personality.
And she fucking hates Usu for it.
But of course, with how every show Jodomanga goes,
she's like, actually, this guy, I might like this guy.
And then Usu's also like, you know,
I kind of started off, you know, just like,
just teasing her, but yeah, yeah.
She's kind of hot kind of thing.
That was a guy character I liked.
What was that show where the character's whole thing
is that he's perfect, and he's a student?
Um, you know,
Sakamoto.
I fucking loved that.
That was so good.
That was so funny.
I did not go, like, that was an anime that I heard was decent,
and I was like, I did not expect to love that.
Oh, it's so funny.
If you haven't seen Takamoto, it's basically like,
the whole premise is that this guy is just the perfect human being
in every way.
And everyone in the school is trying to like fuck with him,
and he somehow always manages to flip it.
Like, there was one time where they needed to like make a fire in a room.
So he literally started doing like, back and forward.
Oh yeah.
He goes back and forward like jumping,
Back and forward to start a fire.
Yeah, and the friction starts a fire.
And it's like, what?
I love this, I love this man.
I wanna fuck him.
It's so good.
I loved him so much.
That was like, I wish I was that cool.
Sakamoto, like, I'll be honest,
I didn't like it that much.
What?
Why?
It's so fun.
How do you like it?
It's because Sakamoto,
pretty much like, every problem I have
with most comedy anime is in Sakamoto,
which is, I like the first two episodes.
And then I'm like,
Oh, is the joke to a repetitive.
They kind of doing the same joke over and over.
But it got funnier every time for me.
I don't know why.
Because I knew it was coming.
It was always funny when it can.
I don't know why.
It's like you knew, like, whatever situation it was,
it's like you knew.
He was gonna come out on top.
He's gonna solve it, but it's the excitement of like,
how is he gonna do it?
The absurdity of how he was gonna overcome.
I love that show because it completely defies expectations
of like, oh, he's probably gonna do this,
but then they just completely flippin and be like,
oh, yeah, there was no point in my mind.
where I thought he was gonna friction burn the floor
into a fire to save all the students.
Like I didn't see that coming.
And then he was just like, I just wanted to work out.
That's all right.
Yeah, yeah, and it's like what?
It's so fun.
That's like, I love the comedy anime like that
that are just like not trying too hard, I guess.
Yeah.
It's really weird because I've had the hardest time
getting into comedy anime.
Comedy anime are normally the worst type of anime.
There are very few comedy anime that I enjoy.
And I put most of them in the same category
as like Sakamoto, where,
It's funny to me for like one or two episodes
and then I get bored very quickly
if they're just kind of doing the same thing.
I always need to like, I always need to be,
they always need to be doing something different for me.
So what about, what about something like Nietzschejo?
Wait, wait, yeah, what's, yeah,
Nizuio and also what do you think is like
the best comedy anime?
Yeah.
Oh, that's, in my opinion, it's Nichio.
Nishio?
Yeah.
Like off the top of my head, probably the,
probably the hardest I've ever laughed
at a comedy anime was probably Golden Boy,
if you remember that.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But that was most-
That's an old one.
That's a really old one
and that's only like a six episode over-year.
So I never got the chance to get bored with it.
And it is one of the best dubs I have ever heard,
especially when it comes to a comedy anime.
Because you must have seen the meme,
like of the one clip where it's the guy doing the swimming.
Yeah, blah, la, la, la.
Yeah, that's the one clip that gets shared out of Golden Boy.
And if you're gonna, if you laugh at that clip,
please watch Golden Boy, because it's like every,
Every point of Gordnaboard I feel like
is just as good as that clip.
And that was just a one clip that if,
if I would sell you on that show.
Yeah. I could easily rewatch that.
I also also way,
oh, Conno Suba.
Than I thought it was going to be when I first got it.
Conno Suba is good.
Conno Suba, I've, I really enjoy in the same way
I enjoy like, uh, always sunny in Philadelphia
or something like that.
Oh my God, fuck it.
It's just, it's just a bunch of awful people
doing awful things and it's fucking hilarious.
We need an anime that's as awful as always sunny.
Always Sunny is like my favorite fucking comedy.
I love it.
so much.
Yeah.
The Conno sub movie as well was surprised.
I haven't watched that, yeah.
Yeah, but it was also really weird
because it was really funny,
he had no one in the cinema was laughing out wow.
Japanese cinemas.
Yeah, so I felt really bad laughing out loud.
I was just like, ha!
Do you ever feel,
did you ever wish there was more like,
I guess, Western humor in comedy anime?
Yeah, because a lot of it does kind of feel.
A lot of it's very anime-esque comedy.
It's very, like, some of it's very slapstick.
What would classify though as like Western comedy?
Right?
That's the question, really.
I think we're,
because slapstick as well as technically worse.
I don't necessarily even think the Japanese humor
is as slapstick as we like to point out.
I think there's a U-Tidded a video on this.
And it's like, well, there's like,
I mean, there's a lot of, there's TV shows in Japan, right?
Where like the whole comedy is like game shows
with their like language, right?
Oh yeah, like WIS shows.
There's a bunch of other stuff like that,
but I feel like at least in Western,
we're like really fucking brutal with our comedy.
You know what I mean?
Like, you watch something like always sunny
and it's like how, I couldn't imagine anything like that
coming out of Japan.
I kind of imagine like a family guy in Japan.
Right, it's weird though,
because you have the game shows here
which go above and beyond what we would think is acceptable.
Yeah.
But then when for some reason comedy,
it's like they don't really joke about that kind of stuff.
Right, right.
It's a lot of wordplay in Japan, I feel.
Like Japanese comedy, it's a lot of wordplay.
A lot of word play, right?
But like, they have like the show like fucking orgasm wars
in Japan, where it's basically a show about
if a dude can make another dude
Yeah.
That's the whole premise.
What?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he recently did a video on it, but basically the most famous one was there was this,
it was, it was versus this like super professional Japanese like male porn star who can like,
he says like, I can control when I come.
Basically.
So he's like, it's a 40 minute shoot.
All right, I'll come at minute 38.
I could come at command.
Yeah, basically he was like, I can come at command, which means that if you tell me not to come,
I'll never come.
And then he had to vote.
He had to verse this guy, this, uh,
Versus.
Yeah, it was a versus, like he basically had to verse this guy.
He was a bartender in Shinjuku,
which is like the gay district of Shinjuku.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he's like considered to be, he says he can make any man come
with his skills, right?
Right. So basically they put them,
they put both of them in a room, right?
This is on TV, by the way, on national TV.
So they put him in a room, he's inside,
the male pawns stars like inside of a box
that's completely covered, and the gay guy gets in, basically,
and you don't see anything, but they're both miced up.
So you can hear everything.
And basically-
How does this pass television?
How?
And of course, you know, with traditional Japanese television,
like in the corner, there's like always the reaction, like, face cam.
And this is a bunch of people just fucking losing themselves,
just watching a dude, suck off a gay.
Doesn't he like make him nut, like, immediately?
He makes him nut in like five minutes.
And the funny, and the funniest part is like,
obviously like, you know, watching the male porn star,
like, come on national TV, but then the gay guy coming out
and being like, Gortez-so-sama.
That's so fucking funny.
Do you hear like the dick-sucking sounds?
Oh yeah, yeah.
It's on YouTube as well, mind you.
Oh, okay.
If you look it up, I guarantee it's on YouTube.
It's crazy that that's like totally acceptable.
Yeah.
But then like their humor doesn't,
maybe not even like it's not allowed,
but they don't really find that funny.
Right.
Maybe.
No, no, they find it funny.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like that was one of the most, like, legendary pieces.
Yeah, they found like that funny,
but then why would you reckon that something like Sunny
would be, do you reckon that would be funny
to Japanese people?
I don't know, really.
Have you watched Sunny?
Yeah, I've seen a bit of it.
Yeah.
They probably think, man, these people are really rude.
Yeah.
Like, yeah, that's what's so funny about.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know, because like the reason I've really enjoyed Konasuba
over something like, say, Sakamoto,
is that Connozub was like way more
character-based comedy.
And I very much enjoy character-based comedy,
where a lot of-
It's just like, Mr. Bean.
Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly.
Sorry to cut you off, but.
And no, that's like the perfect analogy,
where a lot of comedy anime-
Is the perfect bean.
Yeah, a lot of the comedy anime I see is just like,
hey, there's this one joke and it's funny,
like the first few times.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let's see how far we can stretch it.
But eventually, eventually, I'm gonna get bored.
Yeah.
Whereas with a lot of, like, you know,
sitcoms and everything like that,
you know, it's a lot of,
it's a lot of character-based comedy
where, you know, some of the best
moments are seeing how knowing the characters and seeing how they will interact with each other.
And, you know, that's what the comedy builds off of. You talked about Nietzschejo. I haven't
actually seen Nietzschejo yet. You have to see Nietzschejo? I haven't. It's been, it's been,
it's been like one of the one anime, the one comedy anime. I know if you love Sakamoto,
you'll fucking love Nietzschejo. Because Nietzschejo is the, is that one comedy anime where
every joke is expectation defining. Yeah. Because one thing I will say about Nietzschejo is that it doesn't
seem like it's not a character based comedy, is it?
Mm.
It kind of is...
Every clip I've seen looks like funny as far.
Oh, it's funny as far.
The thing that sells me on like what makes me really want to watch Nietzschejo is that every
clip I've seen is vastly different and vastly like they have an original approach to a joke
every time where they'd be like animation or the punchline or something.
Um, so I would probably really enjoy these shows as well.
Yeah, Nietzschejo is interesting because I feel it's kind of half, uh, it's like halfway between Sakamoto and Konasuba.
and Konasuba in the sense that it's a lot like Sakamoto
where like all the jokes are very, you know,
expectation defying and stuff like that.
But as you're watching these like short clips of like,
because it's basically just a bunch of short jokes
put into one episode essentially,
but the way that they do it,
the way that it's written is that like each character's
like development is, you know,
very physically defined.
So by the end of like the 20 something episodes
in Yichizhou, you know exactly what these characters are like.
So there is character development
and character comedy,
within it as well, which I think is what makes it especially funny.
Where the more episodes you watch, the more you start to understand,
okay, this character is like this and this character is like this.
So I can expect some kind of joke like this.
But then the writing's like, no, fuck all of that that you thought you were going to expect,
we're going to give you something completely different.
And that's what makes it so funny.
And of course, it's Kyoto animation.
So you know, I have been meaning to watch it for like forever.
Are you like, I've seen the dead scene, the deer scene so many times.
Every time I fucking lose it.
Like there are so many layers to that one scene.
Oh, so good.
That just makes me want to watch Nietzschejo.
Yeah.
Especially after when I helped you film the video
with the interview with one of the main.
Oh, on the Michael, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And she was super chill and nice.
Yeah, she was the voice of Yucca.
Yeah.
And I felt bad because I'm like,
I wish I could appreciate being in front of you more.
It was crazy because her regular voice is literally Yuco.
So I'm just like, holy shit, it's like I'm talking to Yucca.
Yeah, yeah.
But yeah, it's fucking hilarious.
I mean, I'm sure people can agree.
But that's a good thing about Nishishio.
is that like unlike Konasuba where you kind of have to like understand the story and the characters.
Like it's very, I feel it's really hard to like watch a Konasuba scene out of context and it's still be funny.
Yeah, yeah, I would agree with you because it's the characters that have been built up.
Right, right. You need to understand the characters. But Nietzschejo somehow, there is characters in it,
but they've somehow established the joke where you can just watch a clip completely out of context and it's still fucking hilarious.
Yeah. Yeah. Because okay, like to counter off that point, there's the other show that I can think of where I got kind of bored quite
was a pop team epic.
Which, you know, unfortunately,
sorry, Joe, no, nothing to do with you.
No, no, it's okay.
Like the reason.
I heard your narration, Joey.
I turned that shit off immediately.
Wasn't funny.
Try again.
Like, Pop Team Epic was great until I realized
that not every, not funny.
No, no, that not every clip was funny.
And like, and then I realized that the optimal way
to watch Pop Team Epic
was just to watch like the YouTube compilations
of the best ones, right?
And so I realized that,
hey, I could spend 10 minutes or 20 minutes
if you wanna watch both versions,
or I could spend like five,
or three to five minutes just watching the best parts.
Yeah, I hated how it played twice.
Yeah, that shit was weird.
It was okay for one episode, but I was like,
oh, we're doing it, oh, we're doing it every episode.
Every time, yeah.
I mean, I can, you know, having been in the anime,
I can confidently say a lot of it wasn't funny.
A lot of it was just really stupid in my opinion.
Yeah, it was very like,
except for the episode I was in, that was funny.
That was a banga.
That was a bad.
That's in the top 10 anime episodes of all time,
you're like, come on.
Yeah, it was like way too much,
Ha ha ha, XD, internet humor, like internet meme humor
a lot of the times.
I would say the one comedy anime that I'd say pulled that off well,
but this is going back, way back.
I don't know if you guys have heard of this anime
called Cromati High School.
Yeah.
That's like a really, really old anime
that kind of predicted a lot of internet and meme humor
way before, way before this was like prevalent.
in like our culture.
And I remember the one clip that made me watch
the entire thing was, it was,
I can't remember when it came out,
but it was like early 2000s.
It was like 2000, 2002 or something.
And it was like parodying internet trolls
and stuff like that.
In like the early 2000s,
something like this is fucking brilliant.
It was so ahead of his time.
Yeah.
I don't know if it has aged badly
or not badly.
I haven't rewatched in a while.
But that was also something
where the dub was fucking brilliant as well.
Yeah.
Yeah, I remember reading the manga
at a friend's place and I've never laughed
so hard reading a manga.
What's an anime that was funny purely because it was just
so fucking awful.
I mean, there's a lot.
That's my entire career, just watching bad anime laughing at it.
I watched Kings game for the first time.
I fucking lost it.
I couldn't stop laughing at how shit is out.
No, no, no, King's game was bad.
And then there was the dub.
Oh, don't know.
I didn't watch the dub.
Is it bad?
I felt so bad because it was obvious that like,
you know, it wasn't on their priority.
Yeah.
It was rough, dude, it was rough.
That's a real shame as well,
because like, when I heard that the Kings game anime
was like fucking horrible, I was like,
oh man, I kind of liked the manga though.
So it's like really a shame that the anime
just like completely fucked it.
I can't remember because I only watched two episodes
where I was like, ah, I've seen enough.
I'm satisfied.
Like, I was just like, fuck dude, this is fucking awful.
I think the scene I burst out on,
I burst out laughing out was,
I think there was a challenge where,
the guy had to sleep with the girl or something like that.
Yeah.
And it's, the girl is like the main guy's girlfriend or crush.
I can't remember what it was.
But so, so it's his best friend who has to sleep with this girl
who is the main character's girlfriend.
I'm just gonna say girlfriend now.
And so he doesn't wanna do it.
So he doesn't wanna betray his bro like that.
So the main character is trying to fucking argue
with this guy to sleep with his girlfriend.
And so he refuses.
What he does, his solution is to fucking deck the guy
in the face until he's unconscious.
And then he turns to his girlfriend in the dub
and just do it while he's unconscious, please.
And I'm just like, oh my God.
So bad.
I need to watch the dub now.
And I've never like, I've never laughed so hard
at just the idea of just basically just a guy
getting fucking raped, right?
I mean that's basically what happens.
It's fucking awful, but the way the way the anime played it
so seriously contrasted to how awful the situation was
and how it was being portrayed was just like the juxtaposition
just made me fucking laugh man.
Like it's, like obviously rape isn't a joke
and everything like that, but this anime was so awful
that you couldn't help but laugh is what I was trying to say.
Oh my God.
Or what you Jerry, any anime you think of the top of your head?
Oh my God, I mean like, I mean I've been meaning to like make a series on my
channel where I do exactly that, where I just take the worst anime and just laugh at it.
Like, I don't know. A lot of the, like, the most horrible ones are like, obviously the ones that
no one's who fucking heard off, clearly. So, uh, like, I don't know, what's a famous one?
Like, like, like, Skelter Heaven is a famous one. Mars of Destruction's a famous one. You ever
seen any of those? No. You ever seen those? I haven't, I still haven't seen Mars of Destruction.
Oh, Mars of Destruction. Skeleton sounds familiar. I don't know why. Yeah, Tkelter, it's like one of the
worst rated anime, basically. Aiken's another one that's one that's the worst rate.
Oh, not Iken.
Oh, Aiken is so bad.
I love it.
But yeah, I mean to make fucking some videos on them all,
but like those ones make sense though, right?
Because it's like, of course no one knows them.
They're fucking horrible.
Yeah.
Right.
But I'm trying to think like what's like a well-known anime?
That's bad.
That is like horrible.
Like it's because it's bad.
Because like the only one I can think of
is this anime called Garzi's wing.
Oh yeah.
Like a meme, right?
That's less famous and more infamous.
I'd say like the most other infamous one
is probably the ghost stories dub, maybe.
I mean, if we gotta bring up ghost stories,
maybe so we'll talk about it.
Okay.
The ghost stories dog?
It was fucking legendary.
My favorite fucking dub.
We're never gonna get anything like that ever again.
We never will because, do you know the story
behind how that's up on made?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, a lot about it.
Why don't you explain it for people who don't know?
Basically, ghost stories is a,
okay, what is the actual plot of this?
Kids go into an abandoned school building,
find ghosts, try and resolve.
Isn't it just their school building?
It's like there's just ghosts and they have to use.
No, no, it's like an abandoned side of the building, right?
There's like the main building and then there's the abandoned side.
Who the fuck fucking pays attention?
I know.
And yeah, they basically have to get rid of ghosts.
Yeah, basically.
Basically, it's, the story doesn't matter.
What matters is the dub, as is considered one of the best or the best
worst dub of all time or the worst best dub of all time.
Yeah, it's weird because online,
it seems to be like people can't agree
if it's like good or bad.
Yeah, I can't understand how.
It's funny.
It's the room of anime.
Yeah, yeah.
So basically what happened is this,
this was a show that sold so poorly
when it aired in Japan that when they sold the licenses,
they just basically told the licenses,
do whatever you want with this show to make it sell.
Like we don't care.
You have all creative, you have,
have all creative control.
And so basically they just shit posted in the dub.
It's often seen as the very first abridged series
because it's basically what happens if you,
if a bunch of official dubbers just basically fanned up
and abridge the show and fuck about.
And it's one of the most infamous like dubs
that has ever been released.
I like the father kills me every time
is like the little, the younger brother.
And his entire like time he's just going,
like everything, like his mouth's moving,
but the dog is just like, I'm gonna make him cry in every line.
There's a really good video about it by Cartoon Seif.
I can't remember if it did sell badly or not.
I know that's the common thing,
but I swear there was some point where
that actually wasn't the case, and it did do well.
I can't remember exactly the story,
but again, yeah, Cartoon Seif did a really great
like 30 minute video about this whole dub.
They spoke to a ton of sources.
It's really good video.
It's just a really unique dub
and also because of how they recorded it,
Normally when you record anime,
whoever goes in first is like the first to record.
So basically they all wanted to go in first
so they could like start the improv scene.
Right, right, right, right.
So everyone had to play off of went first.
So they were all trying to get in first.
It was just interesting because when you're watching it,
you know that, you're like,
ah, I wonder who started like.
What this scene.
Yeah, because even if they spoke first,
doesn't mean they were the one who recorded first.
Yeah. So it's fun to try and figure out,
hmm, I wonder who fucking started this shit joke basically.
And it's just such a fun, dumb.
Have you, have you guys watched it all?
Oh yeah, I've seen it all, yeah.
Yeah, it's so fun.
I really wish that we could get something again,
but we're never gonna get anything.
Yeah, yeah, it's different times.
It's different times now.
I'm sure some of the jokes that were set end up
probably would not be able to have like,
you couldn't get away with in this day and age.
Oh, God, no, God no.
But it's just such like a time stamp
for that time period.
And it's just basically all improv as well,
which is kind of funny how some, like,
some of the jokes I thought were very good
And the fact that it wasn't scripted at all
and it was just all improv, I'm just like,
man, this, this, this, I still think it's funny to this.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Even though it might be slightly, you know,
not politically correct.
It's definitely not politically correct.
Like the rabbits here.
Yeah, oh yeah.
It's, it's, it's, uh, wait, what was the joke
about that rabbit where like the dad leaves or something?
No, no, it was like the.
Yeah, I can't get with you,
it's not because you're a rabbit, it's because you're black.
Oh my God.
Do you remember that one?
The joke, I did.
Oh my God.
And then the rabbit, like in the flashback,
the rabbit is like talking in the flashback,
it's like, touch me harder.
Oh yeah, right, right, right.
Yeah, you'd never get away with that now.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
I think it's also back then, like, there was money in it,
but the money level scale is like very different.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
And I think a lot of the dubbing is focused more
on the big shows.
But aside from dobs, like what is like,
universally considered like, oh, this show just kind of sucks
and it's just not very good.
Oh, man.
It could be, it could be,
objectively bad, like we can be talking like-
This is gonna be like hot takes though now.
Like- Is that what trash taste is all about?
I don't know, I can't decide if the reason
I thought Higarashi was shit
was because I watched it and dub.
That's definitely the reason why it was shit.
Because I thought the show kinda sucked after like episode two.
I was like, wow, this is really fucking boring.
Is it like that normally?
Is it boring after episode two or is that because of the dub?
No, it really picks up like near the end, in my opinion.
Again, this is when I watched Higarashi when I first started
started watching anime, so this is nearly like.
Also, you've been tainted by the dub.
Yes.
I mean, we talked about the dub the other day,
very briefly.
I will say I've just recently watched Higarashi
for the first time.
Dubbed?
And I watched it dubbed.
Why?
Why?
And it was a hilarious watch at times,
because the Higarashi dub is really bad.
And it's not like, it's not the kind of bad
where it's awful that you can laugh at.
It's just, there's one good voice,
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
I think.
And everyone else is just pretty bad.
Wait, which character is, that's the good one.
I think it's Shion?
What colors are hair?
That's how I remember.
Three, three.
Oh yeah, yeah.
She's the one of the screaming, a lot of the screaming, right?
I remember that's pretty good.
I've seen the dub scene where she like does the maniacal screaming.
I'm like, and I looked at that clip
and I'm like, oh, the dub must be alright.
There was a lot of people who when the new show was announced
were like, I hope you're bringing back the old cast
and I'm like, I hope they don't bring back you.
Why would you want that?
I mean they met the Japanese cast.
And they did.
The job as well.
Oh, really?
People were saying they were,
when they saw that the Japanese one
was announced that they wanted to bring it back,
they were like, because there's an argument
we made where it's like, oh, the actors are probably better now
and stuff, but it's also like, yeah, sometimes it's like,
just we cast it, get a new slate going.
I mean, if they are going to bring back the original cast,
please, like, have a re-auditioning, you know?
Or like, please like make them audition because, you know,
the quality of dubbing is, I'd say, a lot better now.
Oh, it's much better, much better.
Yeah.
Back then there were definitely some very, very good dubs,
but it was definitely a much larger spectrum
than you get now.
I mean, some of the dubs that came out
after Cowboy Bebop dub is like, oh,
oh, this came out the same time.
Oh, okay.
Oh, oh no.
I remember when back in the day,
when it was like every dub was like mediocre
to shit and then there was Cowboy Bebub.
And everyone just pointed to Cowboy Bebop
as the golden shell to be like, yo, yo, no all dubs are bad.
We got Cowboy Bebop back.
It was like the DeCaprio.
I know.
I think as well, even the people who,
like, I think, I think,
Bryce Papenburg, I think, I don't know if this is true.
I was told this.
So a lot of the actors, even though they were the voice
and there was no problem with the voice,
and it's great, they still have to audition again
for season two, just to make sure
that they still have.
Just to make sure they still got it.
Just to make sure it wasn't a flu.
I think I heard that.
I don't know that's true.
I mean, I'm happy to be corrected on it,
but that's what I was told.
But yeah, I mean, I thought,
I mean, it might have been because I watched the dub as well,
but I just, I just didn't care.
It was not a shit, right?
Why would you do that to yourself though?
Okay, this is back, okay, I don't know,
you 100% did not have this face.
Of course, all right.
But when I first got into anime, I only watched up
because I came from like, that.
No, that's understandable, right?
I was like, I'm not used to it.
I rarely, I only do it once every while
for a foreign film that everyone says is like amazing.
I have to watch them.
If I have to watch them talk French, fine.
You know, don't like doing that.
I'm getting excited by people.
But you know, for a very long time, I watched only dub.
And this just happened to be one of the top rated shows.
And I watched it dub, thought it was shit,
and then I just moved on with my life.
And then obviously later on down the line,
a show comes out that you're like,
I really wanna watch the show, it's only available on sub,
you make an exception, and then suddenly everything
becomes the exception, and you start watching only sub.
Fair, fair, yeah, yeah.
It's kind of, I think a lot of anime fans go through that,
where they wanna watch dub if possible.
And I kinda know, because I'm like,
you'll come around, you will,
because there'll be that one show that's coming out
that you're like, all right,
Demon Slayers on episode 19, everyone said it was hype.
Yes, I'm watching.
Yeah, yeah.
Because now I, whenever I get the chance,
I watch dubbed all the time,
because there's-
It's come full circle.
Yeah, the chances where I can watch dub
are like a lot less than just me watching sub.
So if it's probably, you know,
like, if it's out on Netflix or something,
I'm probably gonna wait for the dub,
like I did for The Great Pretender.
Because I was like,
I knew I could watch it on Netflix in Japanese,
with subtitles, but I wanted to wait for it to be dubbed
so I could enjoy it in a different language.
I could not express my disappointment in the dub
when they dubbed it like multilingual to begin with.
So when they were speaking Japanese, they were speaking Japanese.
And when they were speaking English, they were speaking English.
Right, right, right, right.
Only for the first 10 minutes.
And then they just cut, they put a note on screen saying,
all right, back to normal.
Yeah, they did that in the sub though.
Yeah, as well.
As well, but like, why?
Just because I guess, well, because in the sub,
for the first 10 minutes,
it was the most god-awful English
that I've ever heard.
And I was like, thank God it's a Japanese now.
The French guy was okay.
The French guy was fine, but...
The Japanese guy sounded like,
I mean, here's the thing, right?
The Japanese guy was like,
I've done duolingo.
He sounded pretty bad,
but also, have you said?
People speak English here?
Yeah.
I don't mind it,
because when I heard the Japanese person
speak broken English,
I was like, yeah, that sounds right.
Yeah, cool.
Yeah, but can you enjoy the entire series as much
hearing that?
I would not be able to like immerse myself.
There's, there's a difference being like.
I'd argue it's almost more immersive
that he's speaking to me in broken English.
I mean, like, it's, it's, it's possibly too immersive in that sense.
Cause like, I can't, I can't, I can't imagine like,
like, I can't imagine him being like a fucking top clay,
like class A.
The French guy was so good though.
The French guy was good.
The French guy was good, but I can't imagine like a class A actor
like scamming all these people with that like broken English, you know.
what I mean, that just, that just,
give me all your money!
But it's like sometimes in, you know,
when you watch a Hollywood movie,
they might have like, not a main,
but like a side character,
it's pretty prominent who speaks fucking broken English.
Yeah. And that's fine.
I don't like it though.
Why don't you like it?
Because it's broken.
But they're trying the best of little English.
No, but they're not like,
they're never like the main character
or the main focus.
I guess, I don't know,
there was something that was really like,
refreshing about hearing a guy
with a Japanese accent,
who clearly was Japanese, speak fluent,
like Japanese, then go to English,
even though I guess, I guess they were speaking mainly.
Yeah, because if you have,
if you're gonna have a show that where they speak mainly English,
then why not just, why not just re-dub it?
So it's, you know, it's, you know, it's,
so it's more English.
Yeah.
I'm sure, I'm sure there was actors out there
who sounded Japanese, but were like native quality English.
Right, right.
That could have been,
Ken Watanabe, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Someone on like Ken Watanabe's level
definitely would have worked.
I love the French guy though.
I love the, no, no, that,
thick French hands.
If we could get that level of,
what's the, what's the word I'm looking for?
Multilingual.
Multilingual.
Multi-lingual fluency, I'm sure.
That's a term.
That's a term that we definitely didn't just coin.
I know there's a term for it.
I'm just drawing a blank.
I have no, I don't look at me.
Multilingual fluency.
I get what you mean, though.
Don't worry.
I get what you're saying.
Cause you know, like Hollywood films,
you always expect when someone's from that country
that they come from that country, right?
And like, yeah, okay, the budget is,
it's not even in the same ballpark, right?
But I think it's doable.
I actually wouldn't have minded the great tender
with the broken English the whole time.
I mean, there's a level of broken English
I would find acceptable one.
That was not like, I would just be like laughing half the time.
It's like, you know, I love Ken Watanabe
but I don't think I'd be able to watch
an entire movie where,
90% is good.
I could.
Like, he's English, is amazing.
Yeah, Ken, Ken's English, I feel is good enough.
It's good, but like even then, it's like coming,
cutting close with me.
And like, and like the English in Great Pretender
was like nowhere near that level.
I guess, yeah.
I'm sure there's actors out there who are Japanese
who live in LA who could have like, probably have done it.
Oh yeah, of course, but did they have the budget for?
Probably not.
Yeah, I mean, that's home with anime.
It just felt like a, like, this was the perfect show
to really try and pull that off.
Yeah.
Just kind of disappointed.
Also, I think it's because to most Japanese audiences
who are watching Great Pretender,
that level of broken English is like,
damn, this boy can speak English.
Whoa, he's basically fluent.
I'm sure Japanese side would have also
liked to have maybe heard the same thing, right?
Where with the English people trying to speak the Japanese
sounding somewhat competent?
I don't know, maybe.
Yeah, maybe, maybe.
I don't know, there might have been like a slight
like racism problem, though, involved in that, right?
Even though it's really not racism,
but you know, people always throw that out, right?
I think like, oh, they're speaking in a funny accent,
must be racist.
Yeah, I feel like the rules do work a bit differently
from like live action film to, you know,
dubbed, you know, and voice acting and stuff like that.
Because the expectation isn't that you can get
like a multilingual cast.
It's that there's like one spoken language
and you should speak like, that's true.
That's true.
You just stick to like that one spoken language
and everything else is like, it can be passable.
I guess, I guess like, yeah, when you watch,
what's a, what's a movie with like multiple languages?
I guess, because if,
has multiple languages, you wouldn't need a dub, right?
I guess, yeah, you wouldn't need a dub, right?
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, I guess that makes sense.
Yeah, it's a bit confusing.
Yeah, I mean, in Inglores bastards,
they put subtitles, I think,
when they speak different languages.
They're like hard-coded on the film,
yeah, in the movie.
Yeah, yeah.
I know, because I watched a movie recently
that was about, like, World War II.
Also, really fucking awkward,
being the only white guy in, like,
a World War II movie about, like,
the Japanese being, like, destroyed.
I was just sitting there,
And my seat like this, like,
I'm not American.
Just waving the flags.
Yeah.
Cause like, like, you know, like when the fucking,
like, there was like the planes were being bombed and shit.
And I'm like, do I like feel happy
that the Japanese got like, one tier?
Like, are they happy or are they like, darn those American.
Yeah.
They got us.
It was weird.
They got us.
Damn it.
I didn't know like what the vibe is in the cinema.
You know?
Like, considering have we talked about that time
We watched, what's that film?
Fukushima 50.
Oh my God.
Fukushima 50.
So that we, we-
Holy shit, Joe wasn't there.
I wasn't there, you weren't there.
But, okay, so is it called Fukushima 50?
Yeah, Fukushima.
So there was this film that was made in Japan
about the whole Fukushima tragedy.
And it's by Katakama.
And it's by Katakawa, so we got invited
to like a private screening of it.
So we got, we got an early copy, basically.
To give our thoughts to that.
And, you know, whole film, you know,
It's, it's, it's, it's, Ken Watanabe is in it.
Ken Watanabe is in it.
He's fucking amazing.
Yeah, it's great.
Yeah, there's, there's, you know, I'd rate it a good like six out of ten.
There were some really good moments and then there were some really boring moments.
And then there were these moments in it where they focused on these American characters.
And the like the American, the American military who, who wanted to, you know, who wanted to help Japan.
And for one, some of them weren't even American.
They were like, they were like South, South Africa.
Yeah, there's this one South African dude in it.
They were like South African in this military American military boardroom
and he sounded, they didn't even try to fucking hide it.
He sounded like such a thick, so.
And it's not like a light accent South African.
It's really fucking full on.
Like half of them, and I was just so confusing.
And yeah, go on.
Yeah, and I can't remember the exact line,
but there was this one, do you remember the exact line?
I do, do you want to explain the exact line?
I might be paraphrasing,
but it was roughly something like.
So that, okay, to explain,
To explain the scene before he says the line.
So it was, so obviously the Fukushima emergency was happening
and the Americans were like discussing how to help,
help the Japanese and how to provide aid and stuff like that.
All these scenes were shot like,
so the Japanese scenes were shot like perfect.
This cinematography was on point.
And then it cut to like a fucking sitcom quality-looking camera.
Like a head-eam.
It looked really shit.
And then the actors opened their mouth
and you're like, oh, fuck.
And imagine a script, right, of how Japanese people think
that American people talk about the war.
That's the only way I can describe how the Americans spoke
because it was like, the one line was like when it blew up,
it cuts to the Americans and they were like, man,
you think they would have learned how to handle nuclear technology
after we nuked them.
And I was like, that was like the line.
And we all looked at each other like, yeah.
Did you just say that?
What the fuck?
Yeah, like, we were in like this, this like private screening.
We looked around.
It was me, Connor, Sydney and Maylin,
and then every, like, just Japanese businessmen.
And the Japanese businessmen were like fully immersed,
they were quiet and were like, yes,
this is our American speak.
And I was looking around at Connor City and Maylind
and we were just all like,
my jaw was like, drop.
And we just hear.
Like, is this okay?
I'm like, what?
They can't say that, can they?
And then you like, it was just so bad.
It was so bad.
It was so bad.
And I just like to imagine the first
the fucking South African guy cutting him be like,
oh, I agree with everyone in this room right now.
I was the South African guy who said it.
And it was just every time it was like,
please don't cut to the Americans, please don't cut to the American
and it cuts to the fucking Americans.
It was just like an 80s sitcom.
You were totally fucking right.
And they had like this flashback scene as well
with this one American general who had no play
in the plot or whatever had zero screen time
and then they just, it just randomly cuts
to a flashback of him in Japan.
I'm like, why is this in the film?
And then like towards the end,
there's just a shot of like the Americans coming
and giving water bottles to them
and it's like, all right, sick.
I'll take a bottle of Evian.
Hell yeah, dude.
Just been new, but thanks for the water, bro.
This will really save us, thanks, America.
Like, if that line was in an American film,
the fucking shitstorm, it was stopped.
Yeah, that's the thing, right?
It's okay because it's written, like,
I assume it was written by a Japanese and outsourced
to like an American company on a budget,
I'm fucking guessing, it was like, it was awful.
I can't say the American like outsourcing was like,
we have to translate this?
Are we last, I say it?
This is right, right?
Yeah, I mean, it was fine.
I guess I just try not to go to films
where Japanese the bad guys,
I've kind of learned my lesson.
Yeah, yeah, it's brutal.
Yeah, I thought I was gonna watch Tenet,
but it turned out it was just a war movie.
I genuinely got the,
the wrong tickets.
Yeah, yeah.
The wrong thing.
I paid for the wrong tickets.
Yeah, I wanted to watch Tenet.
I did watch Tenet, really good by the way.
Yeah?
Watch it, yeah, it's basically.
I wanna watch that as well.
It's like Inception, but more mind fuck, I think.
Really? Yeah.
I know what we're talking about?
We were talking about it.
We were talking about it.
Why do they talk about the cinema?
I don't know.
I don't fucking, I don't know.
Everyone can scroll back and find out,
all right, we can't do that, though.
Yeah, everyone's gonna be like,
it's so obvious, I know what you're talking about.
I just, I just, I just, I rewind.
Higirashi, right?
Or some shit.
That's right, yeah.
We're talking about Higarashi.
Yeah, how you guys willingly-
Oh, the actors.
Oh, great pretender, that's it, the actors.
I will, like, I would, I am gonna watch
the remake of Higarashi in Japanese.
Cause the reason I watched it in Dup
because it was, like, you know,
I'm gonna re-watch it in Japanese anyway.
It's on Netflix.
I might as well watch it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I thought it was an okay time,
honestly I was paying half attention after time.
You know, because I was fucking doing
arc night roles or something
I don't fucking remember.
I'm getting his priorities straight.
I watched an episode of Anahana again.
Oh yeah?
Kind of thought it was shit.
I've watched all of Anahana.
I was looking at you to be like,
don't you fucking dare finish the sentence.
Don't drop the S-Bomb.
It's kind of shit.
I watched AnuHana like three years ago
and I fucking bawled my eyes out, great time.
I watched the episode one again.
I'm like, wow, I stuck with this.
It's just episode, nothing happens in episode one.
Yeah, that's why it's shit.
Episode one was by far,
the worst episode of Anna Hannah.
And the episode of one of Anna Hana
Hanna almost put me off of Anahana.
Yeah.
Cause I was like what- That makes it kind of shit, right?
Yeah, because I thought when it,
when it first started, I thought it was like some lolly
fan service baits because I remember the scene
where Menma sits on his lap and I'm like,
ah, here we go, fuck here we fucking go again.
I'm just, I'm just, I was just like, ah,
another, another lolly bait fan service show.
And then, and then I think it was like,
halfway through episode, like,
or like the end of episode two or three,
where I actually got emotionally invested.
I remember episode one was like pretty bad.
Do you think if Anohana came out today,
it would be given the same level of respect
that it's given?
I feel like, I don't think it would hold up today.
I don't think so because at the time
that Anahana came out, there were very few shows
that went in that direction, I feel.
Like, and especially with like how short the show was,
was all, like, it managed to do something in 12 episodes
that a lot of anime struggled to do in like 20 plus.
That's why I feel like it's kind of me.
Now, if you go,
watch it back. I don't think it-
Okay, to be fair that you only watched episode one, right?
Yeah. That's like-
I didn't re-watch it all again. I watched just episode one again.
Well, then that's probably why you thought it was shit,
because you watched the-
but after I watched it, I was like, how the fuck did I make it
to episode after I watched this? Because it was shit.
Yeah, but that's the same as like every person who watches,
like, the first episode of Steinsgate and it's like,
why would I continue to watch it?
Episode one of Steingate's good, right? I think.
I think it was, I don't know.
I remember thinking- I'm like an Alzheimer's patient
half the time. I don't fucking remember anything.
Yeah, that's probably what.
For some reason with anime, like, I do.
Why do you, why did you start to rewatch it?
Yeah.
Because, who is it, Emily?
Emorychu told me, she thought it was shit.
And I thought, no, it's good, right?
It's good.
So I went back and rewatched it.
Yeah, but I guarantee Emily also only watched
episode one was like, it's shit.
No, she watched all of it, she said.
Oh, well, then.
But she was just wrong.
Come on to defend yourself, Emily.
I've rewatched Anna Hana about like four times, I think.
Four times?
Yeah, yeah.
What?
I've only rewatched it once, and I thought,
Bro, we'd have flying cars by now,
people stop re-watching anime this many times.
Are you fucking kidding?
Four times, why?
Because I remember, I think Anna Hana was the very first anime
that got me to cry.
Because I remember back before, before I watched Anna Hana,
I was like, stone-faced, I can never cry during anime.
I'm a-old, I'm a real man.
And then like, I cried like a bitch
the first time I watched Anna-Hanna.
Oh, yeah, of course.
And like, after I watched Anna-Hanna,
it was so fucking long before I could,
find like other shows that I could, you know,
bring a tear to my eye, tried watching Clown ad,
that just didn't fucking happen.
Like, it's so easy to make me cry, though.
Like I feel like just the right beeps and boobs
will make me cry, right?
And right, you find one good Dauph Punk's name.
You like, I love these beeps and boobs.
Yeah, so like, the reason I rewatched it so many times
was whenever I, like, I, whenever I felt like,
I just need a, I just need a good cry right now.
Yeah, yeah.
But so I would just put on Anna Hana just,
just to like, just to get those emotions out.
It takes you that much to get a cry out?
Before I did.
Can you not just like do it on command?
No.
Can you?
Okay, if I'm, oh, oh,
I didn't know I put that there.
Malyne's like, what?
So, I gotta prepare myself.
That's how I'm spilling tears already.
That's how I do it on command.
No, so if I feel like I need to cry,
like, so you feel like you need to cry, right?
Yeah, yeah.
So if I feel- I need that push.
I need to like listen to that song
or watch that anime.
I pretty much,
replicate what that guy did in the best cry ever video
of like that, I basically like just sit there
and I'm like,
hmm. And then once you get it started, it like goes, you know,
for like 30 seconds.
But does that feel the same as normal crying?
Yeah, yeah, totally.
You can watch a fucking KFC commercial
and start crying.
Dude, if I'm in the right mood, honestly, yeah.
Like if there's like an emotional soundtrack to it,
like I can get it.
Because the thing is, right, it's like wank.
It's just a different type of wank, right?
In my mind, like, they both feel the exact same
when you've done it.
Like, when you cry, it feels like a relief.
When you wang-
Have you ever cry wanked?
No.
I don't dare try to mix the two.
No, how easy it is for you.
He hasn't read metamorphosis.
Read metamorphosis, you'll know the definition
of a cry wank.
When you, okay, when you do that cry without a heart,
do you not feel like when you stop crying,
you're like, ah.
No, that's why I would put it on,
because before that, I just couldn't cry.
How long is that whole process take
to make you cry though?
Well, if you have to watch
all of Arna Hanna, that's like,
what?
How many episodes do you wanna watch for you start crying?
I mean, so, okay, so, so, so,
so, so, so, so, if we go and be on,
just re-watching the entire thing,
sometimes I would just like, if I needed a quick cry,
like, if I needed like a five-steps,
time steps, time steps.
If I needed like a five minute wank or whatever
and like a cry wank, I would just put on the final episode.
I'd be like,
man, wait, did you just say you cry wank
to the ending of my heart?
No, no.
Using the same analogy, if I needed that like quick set,
like, skip the blow job, right?
Yeah, exactly.
Right, go right to penetration.
Yeah, just straight into tears.
You'd go, you'd go to like the fucking end of Anna Hana.
If I needed like the full buildup or anything,
if I had like a whole day to waste and I just felt,
if I just felt emotional the entire day,
if I just had a shit day and I just need to cry it out,
I just rewatch Anna Hana and...
I was about to say, like, I can't imagine someone being like,
fuck, I need to cry, or time to invest.
six hours into this.
Yeah, I just put like, you stay run on or something.
And then like, I just start crying, man.
I completely, I completely relate to the,
if I need to cry, then like a good song
will do that to me instantly.
Like, I know, I have like a list of songs.
Right?
Immediately I'm just like, I know if I put this song on,
I know the exact timestamp
as to where the tears will start coming out.
Men should stop.
Men should cry more.
Yeah, yeah, I feel like men should cry more.
Like, once, once,
I discovered Anna Hanna, I was like,
I was on a fucking mission to find my next anime
that could make him try.
And it was, it was, it was because I don't know,
I've always had like trouble crying or showing my emotions
like publicly or whatever.
No, I get you.
For some reason, like watching and like,
the saddest thing could happen to me, IRL, right?
Yeah, same.
I just don't cry.
I don't know why, like, like, for example, like,
I fucking love my grandma, right?
Yeah.
And I, I, I thought,
I thought this entire time when I, you know,
when she passed away and I went to her funeral,
but I would shed some tears.
I, for some reason, I just couldn't shed tears,
even though I knew, I knew I cared about her,
like, loved her as like family
and like one of the person I, like,
but that's the thing, like, you don't have to like,
show that emotion, express it, like, you know,
outside to feel it, right?
Yeah, but for some reason, watching,
watching a good scene in an anime
or watching that one anime, that just brings it out,
that just, that just gets it out for me.
I think it feels safe at home, right?
Like you feel like, all right, I can be vulnerable, right?
I can do this here.
Can you cry in front of other people though?
Yeah.
I'm watching, I can't.
When I'm in a movie with someone,
I doesn't matter who it is, if it's fucking sad,
I'll be like,
are you one of those people who like watches
like something really emotional on a plane
that you can cry on a plane?
I can cry on a plane.
Yeah.
I think I have cried on a plane.
I'm like then, like, fucking you're a chicken.
I'm fucking, because I'm definitely one of those people
who are like, if I watch
because I watch Machia on a plane.
And I fucking cry like a bitch,
but I had to like really just fucking strain my eyes
like I cannot show weakness to the person to see next thing.
I think it's a subconscious thing for me.
Because if there's other people around,
like there are sometimes that I wanna cry.
I wanna cry and they just, it just sometimes
when there's someone else there,
I just lose like, for a split second,
I lose the immersion and then I'm like,
ah, I gotta build up myself like the tears
have to build up again.
Crying's hard for me, I don't know.
Yeah, I get you.
I value it whenever something
does make me cry, which is why I really value,
for example, your name.
Because that was the only time I've ever cried
in a cinema with other people around me.
But that was less because it was sad
and more because it's like,
there's just so many emotions right now,
this is beautiful, that I just have to let it out somehow.
Oh, go, go, go, go.
I was on a train and I was on the,
I think, Yamanoi line or something.
I was watching a video and it's actually about,
like, in Japan they have like seminars,
to make men cry.
Oh yeah, yeah, so I saw that, yeah.
And so I was watching this video
about like where they make,
basically they just cry porn
to a bunch of Japanese business men.
And it was kinda like a game show almost in this video
because it was like this one guy was just refusing to cry
and then right at the final clip,
like the sixth one, it's like a fucking tear
as he's like,
like, holy, it's so funny.
But as they were describing like this,
this woman was describing what was in the clips to you.
They didn't show you it, but just her describing it,
I was fucking like tearing up on the yamato,
I'm on my seat, like, fucking,
so fucking sad.
Like, I just, there's something like,
it was something like a kid's mom passes away
and he's helping with his dad or son.
I'm like, that's so fucking sad, holy fuck.
I don't wanna go through that.
Yeah.
I don't know, man, it's like,
I know there's nothing wrong with like crying in public.
Yeah, I don't know, this is some-
Like full on, I'm just like shedding tears.
Oh yeah, no, no,
but even like shedding tears, like I have like,
I don't know, I have some kind of restriction with it.
I think it's just a subconscious mental block.
I don't know, because I have exactly the same thing.
And I wish, I wish I could like bring out my emotions more easily,
but because it takes it, it takes me so many fucking steps
to get to get to that point.
You know, that that's why.
I don't give a fuck there.
A lot of things, a lot of things in public.
It's not about giving a fuck, like, I don't give a fuck.
But there's, I don't know, something, something like,
Do you give a fuck?
No, I'm like, I'm like, in my head, I'm like,
Cry, cry, cry, cry, cry, cry.
Now!
And then something my brain's just like,
nah, don't do it, don't do it.
Yeah.
Yeah, I guess there is like some,
it's, you know, just mental block that even when you know,
you should, it's like your brain is like, but don't.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think it's just the way I was raised, I guess.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, so some things, sometimes you've realized, man,
the way you were, how you're raised as a kid
is pretty, pretty fucking important to you.
Oh, yeah.
Because it, like, affects how you're, like,
how you subconsciously think for like,
yeah, the rest of your life.
And it takes so much more effort
to unlearn something.
Yeah, there's been a lot of that.
To like relearn to like learn something
for the first time.
Did you ever like catch yourself doing something
that your parents used to do to you
when you were a kid, like the way they would talk
or like, oh yeah, yeah.
I remember like, oh, I think, what was it?
Like my dad used to have this really specific way
of making excuses up.
And I caught myself doing it one time
and I was like, fuck, I picked it up.
It's that moment where you're like,
shit, I am my dad's kid.
I'm like, fuck!
I'm becoming the post.
I thought I was superior this whole time,
but I was just equal.
That's the thing, right?
It's like you listen to your dad,
like doing it all your life.
Yeah.
You listen to all your life,
and then when you get to like your teens
and you hear it, you make fun of them for it,
being like, oh, look at this bullshit.
I'm never gonna be like that.
And then years later, you catch yourself doing,
you just like, oh no.
Fuck.
I was the same this entire time.
Yeah, there's been a lot of like,
always has been.
I've had to like physically like,
And mentally just be like, don't do this, don't do this thing,
don't do this thing.
Because I thought they were like weird things,
nothing bad, but like just little quirks
that my parents would do that.
I'm like, I don't want to do that.
There's just like, this is the first time me saying it,
but for some reason I've heard it before.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're like, fuck my parents too.
They planted the seed.
But yeah, I mean, Anahana, I still love it to this day.
Mid, mid.
Okay, what's, okay.
Okay, what's, okay.
If that's the case, what anime
would you recommend to someone to make them crying?
What was the-
Golden Time?
What is it?
Golden Time?
Is that the right name?
Yeah, Golden Time.
I always fucking call it something different by accident.
Like Golden Week or some shit.
I mean, to me, Golden Time is in the same category
as Anahana for like-
There's a cult though.
I like the cult.
I'm kidding.
I just found that whole cult arc really dumb
and I really enjoyed how stupid that was.
I can't even remember that one.
That was like a part where she was like brainwashed
and a cult of some shit that happened.
I think so.
I don't know.
Again, I'm basically an Alzheimer's patient in waiting,
so I mean, I'm probably the wrong person.
I definitely didn't get a cry boner, though,
from watching Golden Time.
What is another show that it's like really good cry porn in anime?
It's the best cry porn anime.
I mean, anything by Shin Kai?
Jin Maida, right?
Yeah, anything by Middijun, anything by Shinkeye.
I'm not one of those people who knows directors.
Middijun is like, or Clanat Angel Beats,
yeah, little busters.
Anything by Key,
studios basically. Yeah. It's like pretty good cry porn. I didn't find Angel Beets as sad as everyone else
because I felt like it was obvious it was gonna happen though. Yeah. I felt exactly the same
where I, it was my same problem with Klanad just less stretched out where it was so obviously
trying to make you cry. It was yeah, it's literally just cry porn where you just it was it was
you're gonna cry. It was designed just to like make you cry and make you shed tears. Yeah but I have
like an initial, like my cryburner is rock hard
the moment I see my adjoon, you know what I mean?
It's like, I don't even have to watch it
and I'm already prepared, you know?
So I just Googled saddest anime.
Okay, okay.
Just saddest anime and Google it says,
number one, I know, Hano.
And then-
Emily, even Google agrees.
Plastic memories, which is, it was, yeah.
Plastic memories is okay.
It was, you knew, okay, again.
It was, it was just basically cancer
with wifu's, basically.
Yeah.
That's what it was.
It's like that I want to eat your pancreas, right?
It's like, actually, I want to eat your pancreas is fucking big.
I want to eat your pancreas, I fucking cry.
Angel Beets.
Angel Beets.
Mediotechia?
I didn't cry at the end of Madoka Magica.
I thought, okay, there's a difference between sad and bleak.
Yeah.
I feel like Modoka Magiqa is more on the bleak side.
Yeah, is like grief crying.
There's this guilty crown here.
Guilty crown?
Why?
I cried because of how bad.
the ending was, if that's what they mean by that.
It's, uh, Steins.
Actually, you know what?
I really like Guilty Crown.
I'm gonna say it.
I like it, you know what?
I like all of Grilty Cramm.
Really?
Yeah.
You know what, Connor?
I'm absolutely there with you.
Yes!
The one fucking time, me and Connor agree.
People need to stop comparing it to it
as a shitty code kiosk is in its own world.
I don't compare it to that.
I don't compare it to code gas,
but I still thought the ending was mid.
It wasn't, it wasn't the best ending in the world.
But man, it was a fucking good ride.
It was entertaining as fuck.
Is it cry though?
I think I probably did.
I was actually this close to crying and that's,
it wasn't because of the story,
it was just because of how good,
how no songs were.
Yeah!
The beeps and the boots were so hype.
Here's the thing.
The thing about me in crying is that music has so much more power
over me than what does.
Yeah.
That's, if there's a good soundtrack, I'm like almost,
Always close to crime.
Yeah, why do you think I cried to everything
Maida-June does?
Yeah, it's because he makes the music as well,
which makes me cry like a bitch.
But like, I don't know, like, I liked,
like, Guilty Cran had its like emotional moments
and obviously, you know, the soundtrack was good,
but like, I don't know, my, my, my, my,
my cryburner was like a half child the entire time.
I was like.
I really liked it.
It's like, it was so close.
Maybe it's because I haven't watched it
in, like, four or five years,
but I, maybe it's rose tinted glasses
I'm looking through right now,
but I remember I really fucking enjoyed it.
I really enjoyed it, not in the sense where,
hey, I'm gonna recommend this as a good show.
I really enjoyed it in the sense where it was just,
here's a lot of dumb anime tropes that I enjoy.
I'm not gonna, I don't care if they make any sense
whether they put these anime tropes in,
but it's just like a lot of good popcorn fun.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, was what I remember.
That was a great show.
Yeah, it's kind of reminds me,
I remember when Darling and the Franks first aired,
I called Darling in the Franks the Guilty Crown of this generation.
And I kind of still agree with myself on that point
where Darling and the Franks got stupid as fuck.
Yeah.
But it was entertainingly stupid, I would say.
Oh yeah, of course, of course.
Yeah.
I mean, the thing about Darling and Franks
is that I went through a whole fucking emotional arc with it.
Because it was the first half, I would say,
was actually legitimately good.
Did you watch it weekly, by the way?
Yeah, I did watch it weekly.
So I really thought that Darling the Franks
was a great character drama with Mex in it.
And I was super, super, super emotionally invested in this as a series.
And then the fucking space thing happens.
And then it went.
And then trigger was like, let me introduce myself.
Yeah, exactly.
And my enjoyment for Darling the Franks
kind of just shifted after that.
I wasn't emotionally attached anymore.
It wasn't that same kind of enjoyment.
It was just the,
look at all this shit happening.
I think when you watch a show weekly,
I think you're almost more likely
to think it's better than it is
if it's like holding your attention.
I disagree.
I think watching something
not having to wait and just marathoning something.
I've enjoyed shows that I haven't enjoyed weekly
that I've watched and that I've marathonsed.
Really like what?
Because I almost find that when you wait a week
for something that you're kind of excited for,
you almost like hype yourself up for it
and like think that it's better than it is.
It's hard for me to say though
because I haven't watched an anime weekly
since like high school.
Been watching ReZero Weekly
and I think maybe there's an aspect of me
that thinks it's better
because the mystery's being like drip fed
because I'm having to wait a week.
Right, but I think that only works
because it's a mystery.
I actually, yeah, I actually,
ReZero is that exact show.
I remember kind of like,
I remember enjoying it watching it weekly
and I kind of only kept up with it
because it was my job.
And I remember rewatching it all at once
after there was no pressure
to like keep up at it or review.
And I enjoyed it way more watching it all at once
and not having to wait weekly,
even though I knew what was going to happen.
And that's why I haven't like,
I've kept up kind of with ReZero.
season two, but I watch it in chunks.
I'm not completely up to date with it yet.
Because I wonder, because I watched a tech on Titan
Season 3 part two.
Is that the title? Yeah, that's the title.
Like I watched that weekly, yeah, the latest one.
And I don't know if it's because like,
I watched it weekly and every single week was like,
oh my God, I have to wait a week. This is so hype.
This is the best thing ever. But like, in my memory,
season three part two was just fucking like God, God tier.
But I marathoned it and it was still good.
Is it still like that amazing?
even if like-
I mean, I don't know how you're feeling about it.
I feel like it's probably one of the best anime
I've ever watched, if not like,
it's like top two or three, man.
I binge the entire thing in a day, so.
It's fucking amazing.
So I think-
I've already sung the praises
of attacking a ton on this podcast, but yeah.
I think, though, like, that's one of the few rare shows
where it's like weekly or not,
it's just objectively a fucking great show.
You know, like the experience, I think,
is just as powerful.
It's, okay.
Spoiler alert, just for like one minute here.
Whenever a video comes up
I recommended of Levi versus the Beast Titan,
I'm like, I've got time.
I can watch it again.
I've got time for three more minutes of that.
All right, spoiler over.
Yeah, no, I agree.
Well, we've somehow got onto good anime now.
Let's go back to that anime, the worst anime ever.
Oh, I don't know, what a, I mean, what's like a famous,
like, what's like a show that is like, not universally praised,
but it's like, not like Ghazi's wing
or like Mars destruction where like,
the only reason why it's known is because it's bad.
I don't know because I here's a thing if there's a bad anime I'm likely not to watch it
or finish it right because okay here's his thing if something's as bad as Garzi's wing
or something then I'm gonna finish it but I still think it's good because it gives me kind of
some kind of entertainment value yeah what I don't like the worst thing an anime can do for me is
just be boring it's be mid not gonna lie go to high school kind of shit kind of shit
oh he said I'm gonna say it's kind of shit you mean you mean god of mid school
I saw, when I made a tweet about Rent a Girlfriend,
there was like three people who were like,
yo, God of High School is the best anime of this season.
I'm like, what season are you watching?
Watching God of High School just makes me so disappointed.
I'm like the disappointed dad,
because I look at some of these fight scenes.
And I still think choreography and animation-wise,
it's probably some of the best fight scenes
you can find all year.
So I can't think of a better anime.
I think we've said like, it's pretty shit.
It's just disappointing because it was so popular.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I don't know.
I've heard from a lot of Webtoons readers that it basically skipped through everything
and just gave you the fights.
That's not how to do it.
No, exactly.
But I mean, it just gave me the feeling of just, I don't know,
watching like a very good fight animation on, like, YouTube or something.
Yeah, yeah.
You have these fight scenes and it would have worked better being clipped
and put onto YouTube with no context than it would have being in like a fight.
That's what I watched, like,
because I didn't actually watch the anime,
I just saw the clips on YouTube,
and I'm like, oh, there's some cool fight scenes,
but is it enough for me to get invested
into the show, probably not.
I watched like 10 episodes of Naroto, like last year.
Why?
Because I wanted to get into it.
Like first season?
Yeah.
Like as kids, Narito.
Yeah, yeah, like the very, oh, okay.
And that was horrible, because I was like,
oh my God, even the story feels like filler.
Yeah, that's why I never got into Naroto, dude.
Yeah.
And like, I'm watching this, and I'm 10 episodes in
and I'm like, nothing is happening.
We've like left the village and we've done like,
I've watched more opening and ending
than I have like show development.
And then they did that annoying shonen thing,
which I think should be like, it should be illegal.
You should be put in prison if you do it,
where you put four minutes of the previous episode
at the start of the episodes after the intro.
So it's only six minutes of like,
like shit that you've already seen and don't need to see.
In the industry we call that shunnen recap syndrome.
Yeah, and then 14 minutes of the actual episode
and then like seven minutes outro somehow, they've
find a way because they drag it out.
The last like six arcs of One Piece is that.
Yeah, that's, I was about to say, I don't know how
there are still anime only watches of One Piece
when that is, that was like literally every episode for,
the past six years.
Because I remember the last I watched of One Piece
was the punk hazard arc and literally every fucking episode was like,
here's an extended opening and then 10 minutes of filler,
five minutes of actual content and then an extended ending.
It's because there's only one, they only adapt like one chapter
for episodes sometimes.
And you know, granted, the chance
are dense as fuck.
You compare the chapters today of One Piece
to like some of the early chapters.
And it's like, Oda added a like a light novel
into his chapters in between these, like,
there's so much dialogue.
And it's so small and it's so concentrated.
But yeah, I mean, it still doesn't,
it still doesn't add up to like one entire anime episode
worth of content, in my opinion.
No.
So yeah, read the manga of One Piece.
Yeah, which why should I gone?
It's too long gone.
It's too fucking big.
There's the worst argument I've ever heard.
What do you mean?
I don't wanna, it's like, why don't you get a degree Conner?
It's only four years, come on, man.
Why aren't you doing it?
It's so good for you.
I got a degree and it was shit.
Okay, but-
Yeah, but if you enjoy the degree, then-
Okay.
What if there's this really good thing, right?
Do you want it to like end quickly?
No.
Or do you want it to keep going on
for as long as possible?
Because that's one piece, right?
Like, you're talking about it like it's a commitment.
If you're into one-
It is a commitment.
Like, you could say the same thing about Jojo.
You know what I mean?
I guess, yeah, but at least Jojo,
there's parts so you can like stop.
Yeah, well, one piece, there's arcs.
Like, I-
Arks are different to parts though.
I don't know, man, I stopped at the punk
has an arc and I could easily go back to it.
I wouldn't feel comfortable stopping mid-Arc.
No, no, no, no.
But that's the thing-
Like, sorry, in between arcs.
I wouldn't feel comfortable.
No, no, no, but that's why I ended
until the arc was over to like take a break.
Yeah, but I wouldn't feel comfortable doing that.
Why?
Because it's the same show.
It's the same characters.
They're still doing this adventure.
I'm not finished. I can't just stop.
It doesn't matter because you're gonna get Shonen Recap
Syndrome at the beginning of the next one anyway.
Oh my God.
So it doesn't matter.
It's just, I think the thing is, is because it's also daunting
for the fact that if I get into it, it's great that there's that much.
But it's also terrifying that there's that much.
But that's the thing, right?
Like you're saying it in the pretense of like,
oh, I'm probably not gonna enjoy One Piece, right?
No, no, no, no, no. I'm saying,
what's worrying is if I do enjoy ones.
Right.
Because I'm not gonna get anything done for like five years.
I'm gonna be there just fucking reading about
how Luffy's arms are ripped off by stretch arms.
Well, you're doing it with Jones already.
I actually, like, I completely get what you're saying
because I was having this thought experiment
of if I wasn't already into One Piece.
Would you get into it?
Could I convince, could future me or could like,
no way would you?
No way would you.
Could like I convince an alternate universe of me
who hasn't seen One Piece to now get into One Piece.
And I'm like, that is so fucking difficult.
I don't know how I would convince myself
to get into One Piece, but, I mean,
my schedule was already
pretty rammed with not reading manga.
And the manga I do get to read is very small parts.
And I wouldn't want to read something.
Because I don't read several manga in one go.
Right.
I read one manga at a time.
Yeah.
I read it all.
I go on to the next.
And I don't know why.
My brain just can't.
I don't really enjoy.
Because I'm exactly same.
I'm exactly the same as Connor when I'm into something.
When I'm into something.
It has to be that.
I am into something.
No, I get that.
I get that.
I literally lost fucking two days of doing nothing because I caught up to rent a girlfriend.
And that was just like my obsession for that two days.
And if Renzi Gelfareem was like 500, 500 chapters,
I would have just lost like.
Oh yeah, yeah.
I dedicated like an entire month
to just reading Barky.
Like how many chapters of, like,
one piece is there?
Almost a thousand.
Yeah.
But like on the flip side, on the flip side,
I really value that because it's so like,
part of me as like, part of me of like,
has who is someone who has been an anime
in Marga fan for so long, I kind of miss the feeling
like you had as a kid where you're going
just lose an entire week to just watching this anime.
Because is it like, is it, am I,
you guys are the same way,
it's like so hard for you to like marathon stuff now?
Yeah, yeah, like, especially if it's like over 12 episodes.
Yeah, it's really hard for me.
I'm like, oh God.
It's really hard for me to marathon something,
but that's why when I'm like into a show
and I'm like properly into it
and I'm just losing days, I really fucking value that.
Yeah, and I search for it wherever I can,
but it's so hard for me to find.
Yeah.
Even if there's like technically a good show,
or a good series, which I can say,
yeah, this is a good show.
I felt really fucking good
like when I finally marathon Demon Slayer
in like two days.
Yeah.
I was like, damn, I haven't felt this could.
I actually finished a show
that was more than 12 episodes.
What the fuck?
Yeah, I miss the fitting of just having
fucking days and time pass.
Yeah.
I was discussing what's what sucks
to be a fucking adult.
Damn, I just have like no fucking time.
I have no time to marathon.
What are like working all the time?
What's up with that?
Yeah.
But like, I will say that if you do want that
feeling, just get into One Piece.
I'm, 1,000 chapters doesn't sound that bad.
Like I read all of Is Shield.
There's more volumes of Jojo than there is One Piece.
Is there more chapters of, oh, I guess there's
technically more, yeah, I mean, I read five
through seven of Jojo's in like, I think,
just over a week.
Yeah.
Yeah, oh yeah, then you could easily get from like
the Alabaster Arc to like the mermaid.
That was like a week of me sitting in my bed
with a cup of tea nonstop just like,
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Well, that's the thing, right?
It's like, if you get into it, then it won't really matter.
Yeah, but that's the problem is that I'm gonna lose three weeks of my life, minimum.
Yeah, but you're gonna enjoy those three weeks.
You're gonna remember those three weeks of your life, and you're gonna look back.
What will I have to show for it, go?
And then you'll finally be able to jump into a conversation about One Piece and being like, yeah, I think there was like an Xbox achievement, like,
a real-life Xbox achievement where you can be like, I've read One Piece.
And you can have like this badge that says you've read One Piece.
And it's like something 10.
Driving license being like all of one piece.
You need something tangible to show for it
for you to be able to invest yourself into it.
It's what I'm hearing.
Yeah, I guess I'm, I don't really,
how much free time do I have?
It kind of varies, I guess, on the day.
Cause like some, we're YouTube is right.
So some days I'm working fucking all day nonstop.
Some days I'm sitting there trying to think of a video idea
and nothing happens and I just didn't do anything all day.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Played a game of league, maybe, I don't know.
But like if I read something,
it's so hard to see that as like a,
I'm not the type of person who reads casually.
It's like if I read, I need to like focus
and decide that I'm gonna read and it be a long thing.
I can't just be like, yeah,
I'll read a chapter for five minutes again.
I can't do that either.
There's people I know who can pick up a book,
read two pages and be like, nice, that was good.
I'm gonna do the rest. I'm like, what?
Yeah.
What, that's like getting a semi and being like,
out of good wank.
That's great way.
I need like a minimum of like five chapters
to fully get myself in like the reading zone.
And then once I'm in that zone,
I'm like, okay, don't talk.
I need to get in the zone.
Yeah, exactly.
It's like that sense of flow, you know what I mean?
It's, but we don't understand people
who can like read a book and watch a movie at the same time.
Yeah, I doesn't.
Or like have the TV on in the background.
I can't have it on the background.
I don't pay attention to it.
Oh yeah, I need complete silence to read.
Oh yeah, that's because like every time
like Aki's story, she comes into you read it manga,
you're like, what woman?
And it's like there's no noise in the room.
I'm like silence woman, I need my total piece to read this.
He's holding like fat lolly asses volume one.
Yeah.
What is it woman?
I can't you see I'm reading literature.
That's a holy asses.
Make it a market, I don't know.
That's an oxymoron, is it?
It's like a color book.
I just draw a coloring book.
All right boys, I have a question.
I want to know, is there any anime out there
that you, you know, maybe have a hot take on,
like an anime that you think is either really good,
an anime that you, like, that is highly praised
and widely accepted to be amazing
that you think isn't that good?
Or is there a show that everyone thinks shit
that you think is pretty good?
Um, Jerry's already had his with fucking school days.
Cause, you know, I really like the Cabo B-Beebop dub, but the show itself, like, I didn't think it was like that good. I'm gonna be honest. Like, I liked it. I liked it, but I didn't think it was like the masterpiece worthy. Like everyone says it's like. I hate that I can't disagree with you. Like it's like the dub. I prefered Samurai Champlain. Yes, yes, yes. Nah, no, you're going to both. I was about to say I have exactly the same in people.
just with Samurai Champa.
No, Samurai Champa was a million times better.
Like this, like I don't know what it was about Samurai
Champlain, I thought the story, the style, the music was like amazing
and the music gets amazing in Cowboy Bebop, but don't get me wrong.
Yeah, but like the reasons why I liked Cowboy Bebop was,
well, one, the dub and two, nothing to do with the story.
I thought the story was kind of like, all right, okay.
I just, I just feel like Cowboy Bebop had some really interesting ideas
because it's, it's kind of like,
Cabo Bebop isn't like a long, like,
it doesn't have like a very long, overarching story of,
It's more of these individual ideas that,
you know, that Watanabe wanted to explore.
And I thought it had some really good ideas
and so did Samurai Champlain, but I don't know,
something about Samurai Champlu just made me feel like
the ideas just weren't as interesting
on an individual level.
Like, can you sit here and like say to me
that Cowan Beop deserves to be like in the top five
as it always is on every single group?
Yes. Really? Really top five?
Okay.
Like when I see it, like all time.
Like when I see it, it's like those
people who put Citizen Kane at number one on movies.
It's like, yeah, I know movies.
Citizen Kane's my favorite.
I know the movies.
Oh, yes, Rosebud, my favorite quote.
It's like, when I see that on someone's like top five,
I immediately think they're like trying too hard to be a critic.
Because to me, again, I don't think of anime
in like a critical sense.
I most of the time.
I just thought when I watched it, I was like,
it's really fucking cool.
Tons of style.
I just thought the story was kind of me.
Yeah, I mean, if you go into it for like a big story,
then it's-
Just as a show.
Okay, so what about the Samurai Champlain story
was good then?
Okay, this has been a long time since I watched both.
Yeah, same here, same here.
But I don't know, I remember just really having
fucking a ton of fun every single episode of Samar Chambor Chambu.
To me, to me the story and like character,
like how much I enjoyed the story and the characters
of both Samaranghampi and Cabo B, but were around equal.
Yeah, it was everything else around the show,
like the music, the soundtrack, like the effects,
like the animation stuff,
that made Samarine Chambu just that much better.
I did not give a fuck about the fucking annoying kid
on Cowabeebok.
I mean, I didn't give a fuck about food.
For like, what were they trying to do again?
Finding the samurai that smells like sunflowers.
Like the plot doesn't matter in either fucking show.
I just, I like the characters more
in Samurai Champlain as well.
I agree, I agree.
Like I thought because we had only three of them,
it was like, we got a lot more time to like flesh it out.
Whereas they just brought this fucking sidekick character
and a dog and I'm like, why?
I get to be fair, I love Iron though.
Yeah.
I ain't is great.
I mean is dope.
Spike is like one of the coolest anime characters
of all time.
Jet.
I think Mugan was cooler, to be honest with you.
Just saying, I think Mugan was way cool than Spike.
I think Spike is dope, but if I had to like say which one was cool,
I'd definitely Mugan was cool.
Yeah, but Spike can meet, Spike can beat Mugan.
Oh my God.
My dad works for Microsoft.
Would Spike be able to survive AIDS?
My character can beat up your character.
Have you thought about that?
What's Muggen gonna do, swing a samurai sword.
Mike, Spike can just fucking shoot him, man.
Mike.
Mike, what's Mike?
Mike Spiegel.
Fuck, where's Mike?
I mean, I don't know.
I, like, I just-
Cowboy Bebop, this has been one of those shows
that I do think is great, but it's just,
whenever I see it in top fives, I'm like,
you're just churning out of your ass, like.
Yeah. Okay, like, I have a very similar opinion,
not of Cowboy Bebop, but just.
Evangelion?
Akira.
Akira.
I think, I think you guys got a shout at me
and I said Evangelion now, sorry.
I think Akira's mid as fuck.
All right, you're dead to me.
You are absolutely dead to me.
I think, I think it's one of those things
where it came out at the time
and it was a game changer at the time.
Yeah.
But I don't think now it holds up as well.
No, it is still a game change to this day.
I've rewatched it several times,
trying to find what's about it was so amazing.
And every time I rewatch it, I'm like,
man, the animation still holds up.
Yeah, it's great.
It's just like, it's just, I don't know, it's just,
nothing much about it.
You wanna share your thoughts on that?
This is my last episode of trash day,
so I'm leaving after this, I can't handle, okay.
Okay, Akira, all right, Akira to me is like,
I think to this day it still stands as one of the most unique
cinematic experiences in anime.
And I'm not just talking about that.
You're wrong.
And I'm not just talking about that, I'll agree with that.
I'll agree with that.
And I'm not just talking about that in terms of like the flashy colors
and the fantastic animation.
It's like, oh, it looks pretty.
Like, I'm not just talking about it like that, right?
But like, I just, I don't know, like,
I've rewatched Akira so many fucking times.
And every time I've rewatched it,
especially like, you have to see it in a big screen as well,
in my opinion.
Like, I went to go see it, okay,
because I went to go watch it.
Obviously, I wasn't born when it came out in cinema.
Yeah.
But, like, a couple of years ago,
they did a re-screening of it in Sydney, in Australia.
And for, I think it was like the 30th anniversary
of the movie or something on the big
screen and like I loved it on the TV like watching it in my room and shit was like
fuck yeah but watching it in the cinemas was like holy shit like this is like an
adventure like this is this is just like such an out-of-body experience with just
the music is godlike the fucking voice acting is incredible like everything about that has
every every single element of that movie has a quality that can still stand to like
modern anime cinema in my I agree with that and like and I think that's why it's just so
incredible because you watch it and you forget,
oh shit, this was made 30 fucking years ago.
Yeah, but that's my point.
I completely agree that it's an experience
that can stand out in modern anime cinema.
Right.
It's, but I'm saying it's definitely not as mind-blowing
as it was back then.
And- I don't know, man, I think it's still mind-boggling.
Every time I'm re-watch it, I feel like I'm in the middle of this.
I feel like I can agree with both.
I'm not saying it's the best anime movie.
No, no, of course, of course.
But Jesus Christ, it's good.
Like, I could easily read, have you read the manga,
that?
I have not.
I think it was part of why I didn't enjoy,
because it just felt like, it just felt like it kind of just ended.
It was, it didn't feel like a complete experience.
Well, yeah.
Well, does the manga continue after?
The manga's twice as long.
Oh my.
So the movie actually, the movie,
the ending of the movie is completely original.
Oh.
Because Ultimo released the movie
halfway into Akira's serialization.
Because the first like three volumes were so popular
that they were like, we gotta make a movie of this.
And they made it, but they were like,
but I haven't finished the manga yet.
what am I gonna do?
Bro, I'm trying to finish it.
So the movie's completely original
and like the manga continues for another like four volumes
after the point of the movie.
Okay. And it's insane.
It's fucking insane.
Like I highly recommend it.
And I'm not just saying that it's like a super fan
of Akira, I just think in terms of like,
storytelling and just like, you know,
I'm just throwing fucking key toms.
Yeah, characters.
Character, storytelling development.
Like honestly though, it's good shit.
Well, how many more buzzwords can I throw in?
Yeah, right?
Like plot progression.
Synergy.
Synergy.
My God.
Again, like, I don't think it's the greatest piece
of, like, anime cinema out there,
but like, I easily, it's one of those movies
where I'm like, don't be fooled by the fact
that it's 30 years old.
Like, I still think, I can easily recommend it
to new watches like.
Yeah, you can definitely still watch it today
and not feel like it's dated.
Yeah.
Especially as like, as like, as like a,
for me, like a visual experience and everything like,
I just feel like, you know, it's,
I don't know, it's, maybe it's because, like,
cyberpunk has just kind of died recently.
recently, I mean, for like the longest time until,
what recent cyberpunk anime have we got recently?
Dora Hedora. Dora. Dora.
Yeah, it's, I mean, seeing a world like that
is a lot less, you know, seeing a world like that now
is a lot less common than it was back then.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
When cyberpunk was kind of in its prime.
Oh yeah, 80s was like fucking,
so like you can still watch Akira and feel like,
hey, this is something I can't already get today
just because cyberpunk is just, is really rare to find out.
Because to me, like Akira is like one of those movies,
like those anime movies,
where every single person I've asked
who is clearly not an anime fan,
and I asked them what anime have you watched or enjoyed.
99% of them will say, oh, I watched Akira
and I thought it was fucking amazing.
Yeah, it's just a good movie.
It's just a really good movie.
It almost defies anime in a sense,
which is really weird because it is,
because when you,
which is really weird, which is really weird.
Wait, wait, wait, what do you mean?
What does that mean?
What does that mean?
Like it goes beyond, like it has an enjoyment factor in it.
I can't exactly like describe,
I'm sure someone can explain a better than me,
but there's something about Akira,
the experience of watching Akira that you don't necessarily
even have to really like anime.
No, I agree.
I think, I think, yeah.
Which is really weird because when you actually watch Akira,
it is anime as fuck.
Like everything about that is so anime.
Yeah.
And yet it somehow is almost not anime at the same time.
It's really hard.
I don't know how to explain it.
I can relate to what you're saying.
To throw out my second hot take, I guess.
I don't know if I've said this on the podcast before,
but I think I've said it in other places,
but I fucking hate Ghibli movies, man.
I only liked like three.
I think I like one or two and even like.
Which ones?
Princess Monanoque and Naska.
Do you like Howls Moving Castle?
No.
I really like How's Moving Castle.
I really liked Howl's Moving Castle.
And the reason I don't like Ghibli is
just because I don't like Disney.
And I don't know, because
Ghibli, like when I say a Ghibli movie,
I'm like, this is an anime.
Like this, this isn't anime, this is a fucking Disney movie.
Can we also talk about how Haya Miyazaki's fucking asshole?
Oh yeah, he's an absolute cunt.
Did you see the clip of like him going to his son's premiere?
Oh, you gotta recommend that clip as well.
Oh my, so this clip, right, you can search for it,
but he goes to his son's premiere.
Yeah. He's making a movie, right?
He's a director.
And he fucking walks out of the premiere halfway through,
being like, he's not an adult, yeah.
And I'm like, oh, he's fucking one of those dads.
Fuck.
He's like, he's not an adult yet at like 30.
Because I haven't deemed him worthy.
It's like, get, get, shut the fuck up.
Yeah, he goes up for like a cigarette
and he's just like, yeah, this movie's trash.
He could have done better.
He hasn't, he hasn't grown up enough.
Yeah, and it's like, are you fucking kidding me?
As if Miyazaki hasn't made shit movies himself, right?
Like, not every, like, I love Jubilee, don't get me wrong,
but have I enjoyed every single Jubilee movie?
Absolutely not.
I just, I just hate the kind of director who is like,
everyone else is unimportant and my ideas are the best.
And he seems, he gives off that vibe.
And as much as, you know,
cultural icon for, you know, many parts.
And you don't wanna be just an asshole.
You don't wanna shit talking anyone for no reason.
Yeah, because like-
Every single time you see him in an interview or do anything,
he just seems kind of like a cunt to be around.
You would hate to be around him.
You can tell like he's such a close-minded dude
because apparently the only movie that Haya Miyazaki has made
that he himself cried to was the wind rises.
And I can tell you that is the most mid-jibble
movie I've ever watched.
Is it? I heard good things about it.
It's good, but compared to other jibli movies,
it is mid as fine.
What are your favorite Jibli movies in?
Princess Mononoke is easily my favorite.
I mean, obviously I grew up watching Nauska and Totoro
and stuff like that.
Howells Mooncastle was really good.
I thought Ponyo was okay.
I was boring as far, man.
I think Ponyo is very much the jibilee of the new generation.
Oh, sorry, the Totoro of the new generation.
Totoro, oh my fucking God.
I fell asleep during Totoro, man.
I'm like, why am I watching a kid's show now?
Okay, to be fair, why do you expect me to be fair,
yes, Totoro is a kid's movie.
That's why I don't recommend it to people.
It's a kids movie.
Yeah, but so is Toy Story, but I can watch Toy Story.
Toy Story though, Pixar has done a thing
where they've managed to intermingle
like very adult humor.
But that's good kids, kids like media
is great when it can be enjoyed by every,
but Japanese media does not do that.
It does sometimes though.
Not Ghibli though.
Yeah, not Ghibli.
What is it the fucking one
with a pig flying a plane?
Porcarosa.
Oh, Porcarosa.
I fucking had to turn it off 20 minutes in.
I'm so fucking bored.
I enjoyed it, but I thought it was okay.
Like it's not amazing, but I thought it was okay.
That's basically my experience with a lot of Ghibli movies
is that this is the most okay film experience
I've had and I like, okay,
the reason I really can't get into a lot of Ghibli movies
is that they just don't feel anime.
I don't know, I don't know,
because they feel like Disney movies, right?
And I know Miyazaki's gone on record,
like criticizing a lot of anime
animators who are like, man, they're just like inspired
by other people working in anime
rather than inspired by real life.
And I'm like, this is why I go into the medium dude.
I like that.
It's the whole, I hate the Taku's thing, right?
Why do you hate the thing that I like?
I mean, as well, and also just on top of that,
knowing that he's an asshole makes it so much worse
for me to like try and enjoy it.
Because I think you can make great shit
without being a huge cunt.
Like I'm, yeah, absolutely.
I think maybe if you cure every single type of cancer,
you know, in your lifetime,
Go ahead, be an asshole.
Like you probably, you get that pass.
You know, it's that whole thing of like,
you know, you should separate the creator
from the creation.
I disagree.
But sometimes it's really fucking hard not to do that.
I mean, it's really hard.
When a person markets their work so heavily
is their work, right?
Yeah.
It's a Haumeozaki film.
It's not a film, it's not a film, right?
Yeah. So then it's like, well, he's kind of a cunt,
though.
So it's kind of like, you know.
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
But I mean, sometimes it doesn't detract
on like how good this specific work is,
just because you enjoy
doesn't mean, doesn't necessarily mean you, you know,
you, I forgot the first thing of what I was saying.
But every time I enjoy the work,
doesn't mean you can't, you have to like, like,
I agree with that, but it's also like when you don't like the work,
knowing the guy is kind of a, you know,
yeah, of course, you're like, God, I fucking hate this.
Yeah, but most people don't know that, right?
When I turned off, Porcaroso halfway through,
I was like, you're not an adult yet.
You haven't done it, you haven't done it.
I walked out of my room.
I had a cigarette.
I had to walk up,
the room, put my arm on the doorframe.
It's not ready yet.
He wasn't ready.
It's weird though, because to me, like,
my favorite Miyazaki film isn't even a Jibli film.
It's the fucking looping the third movie that he did.
Like way before Ghibli, the Castle Kalea.
That's so strong.
But like, yeah, I don't know.
It's, uh, it's great.
I wonder, was he always like that?
Or is that something that happens when everyone tells you
you've come down from God to bless us with animation?
I'd say it's the latter.
Yeah.
He's also like fucking.
150 years old, she's retired like eight times.
I'd like to think when I get old,
I'll be the fun kind of old guy, the one who's like,
yeah, I give a shit about what the young people are doing.
Instead of being like, I hate life.
You say that now.
Yeah, you say that now.
That's like, that's what I hope.
I hope.
I doubt Haya Miyazaki in his 20s was like,
I'm gonna grow up to be the absolute cunt.
I will redact all my statements
if I see him hit the whip.
You know what I mean?
If Hymizaki comes out,
hits the whip, I'll take,
I'll take retract all my God.
I doubt Miyazaki's just like browsing Twitter.
To be like, oh man, they think I'm an asshole.
I better change my ways, you know.
I think I'm an asshole.
Fuck the haters.
I don't care what he thinks, but I, you know,
if he wants to see it and think, you know, whatever.
But I mean, all I'm saying is that you don't have to be an asshole.
Yeah, exactly.
You could be humble.
Did you really have to tell your son his movie was shit
in front of the cameras and go out of the,
did you really have to have the cigarette?
This really feels like a drive home kind of thing.
Like a son, it wasn't that good,
but don't worry, I wasn't gonna embarrass you
from all the news outlets that were waiting for me.
It's your son, for fuck sake, are you kidding me?
That was the thing that broke you?
That was the thing where I'm like,
oh, this is too much, right?
That's, you purposely went out of your way
to be a cunt to your son.
Like, you could have waited till he got home
in Texas and been like, son, it was right.
That's the thing that, like,
I watched the Haya Miyazaki documentary
that they did like years ago.
And it was such an interesting documentary, right,
because you get to learn about it
life and like his thought process about everything.
Yeah. But I don't recommend that like documentary to people, nor do I want to rewatch it.
Because in the entire documentary, Hyomian is like he's just an absolute dick to the interview.
Yeah, it's just kind of like...
I'm just like, just answer the fucking question like a normal person.
Right, it's like when people are just making things difficult for the sake of it and then you have this whole, oh, I'm the best.
I know everything. It's like, it's so frustrating to have to put up with that when it's like,
did you have to be an asshole though? Why? Why do I be an asshole? Like, what did you gain from that?
Did that make you feel big?
Did you feel better?
Like, just be nice.
But like Stanley Kubrick had the same thing, right?
Apparently Stanley Kubrick was absolutely dick.
Apparently directors in general tend to be.
Well, like, when some of the most talented people
and talented visionaries are probably some of the biggest dicks.
I mean, especially with the director where it is literally like,
you have to be like, put your foot down constantly.
Yeah, yeah.
I think it's a great YouTube video is like, are all directors dicks.
It was on my recommended for like a million years.
I love that title.
Are all directors dicks.
It's actually really interesting.
and go watch it.
And he interviews a ton of directors asking them,
you know, should you be a dick?
Are you a dick?
A lot of them would be like, yeah, I am,
because I have to put my foot down constantly
and tell them no, you know,
especially if you're working with some actors who are-
I get being a dick on the job.
Right. But like, when it's just like, you know.
This is what I mean, like, yeah,
you can be a dick on set
to get what you need done.
Yeah.
But did you have to go home and humiliate-
to the interviewer?
Yeah, humiliate the interviewer,
humiliate your son.
Do you have to do that?
Like, that just, that really, like,
I don't know what it was when I saw that,
Clip, it really fucking struck, like,
and I was like, I didn't mind him being an asshole sometimes.
I was like, all right, whatever, that's his thing.
Everyone in the office gets it.
But then when he did that, I'm like, that was just cruel.
That was cruel.
Yeah, I think what hit me about that clip
was that he did that in front of cameras.
Cameras, you know what I mean?
All the other people there.
Because all the other old men came out afterwards.
Like, it was good, wasn't it?
Yeah.
And he was like, no.
And he just left.
I remember there was a shot.
I'm just him going down the stairs,
be like, I'm fucking.
He dragged his wife out with him as well.
And I'm like, oh my God.
Yeah, you guys chill out, I'm fucking off back home now.
Fucking hell.
Yikes.
Yeah, it's just kind of like one of those things
you're like, damn, bro.
I don't wanna be like that.
No, I don't think I have the, like,
I don't think I could do that to my kid.
Yeah, I couldn't do that either.
That's like your son, like, making his first YouTube video
and you just like pause and just walk out
and have a sicker.
My parents did do that.
They fucking- thumbnail game week.
They pretended like they got it.
I know they didn't, but I appreciated
that they sat through it.
Yeah, exactly, right?
Yeah.
I just have this image of like,
you seeing your son doing his first YouTube video
and it's fucking like reaction video or something.
I was like, son, I expected better from you.
I expected more creativity from you.
I didn't raise a fucking son
for him to grow up to be a fucking reaction YouTuber.
Which PC is in it?
Yeah, I mean, it's just, I don't know.
It's like, it was, yeah, like I said, it struck a nerve.
Fuck, I was gonna say something else.
I was totally fucking personal that I was gonna add.
Fuck.
Bottom line, just don't be a dick.
It was like, I read an article as well.
Howie's actually openly said that he was just never there
for his kids growing up.
I read that article, after that, after that video.
Because of course he fucking was.
Yeah, well that makes sense.
Too busy making the movie.
But then, I mean, that's when you wanna finally come through, right?
It's your kid's movie, you finally wanna be like, son,
I know I wasn't there for you, but God damn,
you did me proud dad.
Could you imagine he probably spent his whole fucking life
chasing that moment?
Yeah.
For that one moment where he just needed this dad to be like,
You know what, kid, you did good.
Yeah.
I watched the movie.
It was better than half the shit Mayazaki made.
I watched the movie out of pure spite.
I don't even remember what it was called.
I would have said it was the best movie ever.
Tells the UFC.
That's it.
Oh, yeah, yeah, okay, I haven't seen it,
but I heard it was really good.
It's pretty bad.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
I actually don't know.
Come on, come on, just say it's good.
It's probably like university agreed
as one of the worst movies Ghibli's ever made.
Really?
Like, I feel bad.
I feel bad, but man, you know, I feel bad,
that Miyazaki just fucking shit talk to son.
Cause like, no matter what, right?
As a parent, you gotta-
This could have been a snuff film
and I would have sat through my kid's first movie,
you know what I mean?
Like, I'm sitting through that, like I have to.
No matter how bad it is,
you gotta fucking have your kids back, you know?
Yeah, I can understand.
Like no parent, right, like goes up to their five-year-old,
looks at their macaroni artwork and goes,
that's shit.
Yeah, fucking cease the macaroni art, lights up the cigarette.
I expected better from you, son.
Son, I saw the other kid's macaroni on.
It was much better than this, you know.
They used the gluten-free shit.
Okay, then have you ever had a show or series
where you really, really enjoyed,
and then something came, like you enjoyed before,
and then you learned about the creator or the author,
or whatever?
Yeah, absolutely.
And has that, like, affected your view of the show at all?
Absolutely.
Fucking, when, what happened to fucking Ruroni Kenshin, right?
Yeah.
Or recently, act,
happened.
Yeah.
I was enjoying act date so much.
I'm like, this is one of the most unique
Shonen Jump experiences.
And then that happened and I was like, well, fuck.
And I kind of don't wanna read it anymore.
And people wanna always be like,
you should separate them, but it's so hard to do that
when you really respect the work.
Especially with Ruroni Kenship, because like,
this is coming from a massive Ruronic Kenyship.
And I was like, I can't read it anymore.
No, no, it's, it was one of my favorite shonen manga
and anime growing up, and I still have the volumes
in my shelf.
and it's just like gathering dusk now.
Yeah.
Because it's hard as well because you almost respect,
because you respect the work so much that came from the mind
and you almost respect like the thought process
and the creativity.
Yeah, yeah.
From the person, right?
It all came from a mind.
I think what's disturbing is like what all these such amazing ideas
came out of the same head that was like,
oh, I should, I should, you know, collect this not good stuff.
Yeah, because like, re, like,
I remember I was really into act age as well.
And then after the news came out,
You kind of looked at some of the plot points of act age
where it's like, like, like,
it makes you re-look at every, like,
an older guy grooming this 15 year old schoolgirl
to become like a, one of the best actresses of all time.
And you're like, it was cool without that knowledge
to just think, hey, you know, maybe he's just trying to help her
as like, as like an actress, you know, it was like a...
But now you kind of see like the underlying reason
as to why he chose that, right?
Now there's just this underlying reason
that just makes you really uncomfortable.
I mean, look, I can't shake the uncomfortable.
Maybe that's a complete coincidence.
We will never know.
But just the fact that we can now make that correlation,
it just makes it that much more uncomfortable.
Exactly.
And then you see people on Twitter who are like,
but it was it legal though?
Like they're like, what doesn't matter if it's legal?
It doesn't matter.
Like I just don't wanna support a pedophile, really.
Just seeing the fucking replies to the Twitter on that
was just like, oh my God, I hate this world so much.
Oh yeah, yeah.
Because people clearly like the show who were like,
but but it was only one, right?
It's like, it doesn't matter if it was only one.
What do you mean if it's only one?
One is more than zero.
It was only one murder, Your Honor, I swear.
Come on, give me a friend.
It wasn't a serial killer, please, give me more credit than that.
Yeah, no, I was so fucking disappointed than that.
And I'm like, why is it always the good shows?
I wouldn't even care if it was like the mediocre shit.
Gary's wing.
Yeah, it's like, if it was like the fucking creator
of Garzi's wing, right, then I'd be like, yeah, what the fuck ever, right?
Like, I didn't even enjoy it to begin with.
But why is it always the good shows that it happens?
It's always like the most talented shit.
It's a shame.
It's a shame.
It's a shame.
Stop it.
But you know what's not fucked up?
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The worst segue ever.
I'm sorry.
Did you really just segue into,
at least our patrons aren't pedophiles, right?
Thank you, patrons.
I don't know what you're doing your free time,
but please don't do bad things,
because that would be really sad.
I just love the way you just said,
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You know what starts with Pee.
Shout out to this.
This patron, this is amazing, this analogy.
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Also follow us on Twitter and subreddit as well.
We've seen the memes.
What do we normally say at this point?
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It's nearly 5 p.m. for us.
We need to watch League of Legends world.
We as in they.
Yeah, I think it's about, it would be ended by
the time this is.
No, it's close to ending.
Probably, yes.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
Yeah, I'll see you.
You're a wonderful host, Connor.
And I've been back.
You're welcome for us finally talking about anime.
I know it's like a once in a blue moon
kind of kind of episode now.
Remember we're still an anime pod.
I don't learn my stuff out if I talk about too much anime, man.
I don't watch that much.
I'm gonna run out of stuff.
So I hope you guys enjoy that.
Yeah.
Bye.
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