Trash Taste Podcast - Roasting our WORST Takes on Anime | Trash Taste #21

Episode Date: October 23, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to this episode of Trash Taste that you just joined, so not welcome back, with my boys today, Joey and Garb. Welcome to this episode. Trash Taste. Welcome back. Welcome back to Trash Taste. As you should, with every Trash Taste episode,
Starting point is 00:00:13 you should go and watch the previous episodes in order without break and then comes to this one. It goes one, then two, then three. Ooh, controversial. Are you gatekeeping trash taste? What if I wanna watch episode four and then go back to episode four? Bro, you're not a real fan.
Starting point is 00:00:31 I mean, you gotta start from part one, then part two, all the way to part 20. And then watch halfway through part three. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Jim. And you're a real fan if you see the OVA special episodes, then we know if you're a real fan. If you don't know what we're talking about, don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Sorry, Jess. What are you talking about today? I don't know what we're gonna talk about today, Jay. We hardly ever know what we're gonna talk about. Yeah, I feel like, well, we have a few ideas we want to do, but we'll save the special ones coming out. coming up, but I mean, yesterday,
Starting point is 00:01:02 I'm why don't I tell you little story, boys. Okay, yeah, it's Connor Storytime. It's Conner Storytime. I went to the DMV. Gather around the campfire, oh my God. This is already sounding horrible. This is not a campfire story. This is already so I want, so as you guys know,
Starting point is 00:01:16 none of us have the ability to drive in Japan, but we all have the licenses in our own respective country. Yes, yes. And I thought, well, one of us needs to do it. I'll do it. I like driving, gone hates driving, and Joey's just Joey. So Joey just stands there, being like, I don't wanna do anything.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Joey doesn't wanna spend a whole day at a DMV. No. And more probably. My relationship with driving is that it literally serves a purpose. Like I don't care, if I can get from point A to point B in a way that's like other than driving or someone else can drive me, I don't care. If I have to drive, I'll fucking do it.
Starting point is 00:01:50 But I can afford an Uber now. I'm convinced that you wanted to become a rich person just to get a chauffeur. That's like, eventually. That's the dream, right? That's the dream. I don't hate driving, what I hate is parking. My God, like I get-
Starting point is 00:02:06 The thoughts of parking, yes, because I suck at parking, okay? I barely pass my test when it came to like parallel parking. The thoughts of parallel parking gives me nightmares. Like I wake up in a cold sweat and I'm like, what if the car doesn't fit? And I make a fool of myself like spending 10 minutes trying to get into the slot. Because everyone's been on the other end, right?
Starting point is 00:02:25 Where you're trying to watch someone parallel parking. They're just like, come on, it's not that hard. And then when you actually go to do it, it's like, oh, it's that hard. I somehow nail like the hard parking and then take 15 attempts for the shittiest, easiest parking when there's like 100 people around me, just watching me, like, really embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:02:41 But yeah, I wanted to get my license because, you know, I wanted to have the options open. Because I feel like you can still explore a lot of Japan without a car. Yeah. It's just some places, you know, that further- Once you're outside of Tokyo, you pretty much need a car.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Yeah. Comes a little more difficult, especially if you want to really explore If you want to stick to the main tourist stuff, there's buses and stuff, you'll be fine. But I wanted to drive and I mean, nothing goes better with my beep boop, deaf punk music than driving.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Like, I love driving with music, man. It's so like, smacking that wheel, you know. What? Smacking that wheel on time. You're like a dad. Yeah, man, I love it. I love all of it. So I thought, you know what, I'm gonna get my license
Starting point is 00:03:21 because if you have a British license in Japan and a select few of the countries, a lot of European ones, they said like, America, Only Hawaii and Alaska. It was like, so only Hawaii and Alaska can do it. If you're from any of the countries when you don't, from those countries, you have to do a test as well.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Why Hawaiian Alaska? I have no idea. I don't think it was Hawaiian Alaska. It was Alaska and some other country, some of us to say, which was really confusing because I'm pretty sure, don't they all drive on the same side of the road? Yeah, I thought so, right?
Starting point is 00:03:46 Because the reason why American- Maybe there's something we don't know. Yeah, because the reason why Americans have to do a driving test is because we drive on the other side of the road, right? Hmm. Does Alaska drive on the same side of the road as Japan? Alaskans, let us know.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Yeah. So I had to go to the DMV and I knew it was gonna be a stressful process because it always is with any driving. I mean that's just universal but I can only imagine how stressful it is in Japan. Yeah, because the extra layers you have to do. Right, right, right, because you're like, it was already hell in my own country. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:14 It's probably gonna be hell again in Japan. Yeah. Times two and I had to bring a translator with me. Yeah. So it was just awful. I was so glad the translator was not me. I was gonna ask Joey, but then another friend offered and I'm like, but then I was like, oh, you're under the DMV?
Starting point is 00:04:28 Sorry, I'm busy, I'm busy that day. I can't, I'm not bad, man. So first, I gotta ask, how long were you there for? I got there at 8, 20 in the morning. Why so early? So, it's a line up. Yeah, so right now, because I'm not sure if it's because of COVID, but right now, only 10 people are allowed to get
Starting point is 00:04:46 a foreign license a day in the whole prefecture. So it's like first come first serve. Yeah, so whoever's that first gets it. If you don't, you have to come back at 2.30 and wait, but they give out the 230 slots, at the 9 a.m. So I was in the 230 slot. Oh shit, Jesus.
Starting point is 00:05:02 I queued up at 8.20. I was told on the website it says 9.30, get there at 9.30. Yeah. And then I called them up and I asked, hey, what time should I get there? They said get there for like 8. Hey, so I got that 820 because I thought, oh, it's no one's gonna be there.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Yeah. There was already like 14 people lined up when I got there. And so I was in the second bunch. So they only give out 10 licenses a day in the whole prefecture, which is like millions of people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:28 for foreigners and it's like, what? How is this a thing? Why only 10? Like, they just do the first 10, like, go home. At least it wasn't like the bullshit like, you know, you know when they did like event gotchas and stuff like that. He's a ticket and if you win the ticket,
Starting point is 00:05:42 you have a chance to get in. Well, we'll see, well, I'll tell you more about the story. So it's like an hour away from me, so I have to get up at like 6 a.m. Which is way over my like comfort zone. I can wake up at 8 and be fine. Like anything before 7.30. I feel like shit. the whole day.
Starting point is 00:05:59 So I get there and we line up and then I have to wait an hour to get my ticket. So I have to wait an hour to wait more. So I then went to Coco's diner, which is like Cocoa Havana. Went there, stayed there for three and a half hours. Jesus Christ. Came back to the place, waited another hour.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Finally got to go in. As I'm going in, this couple is like screaming at the employees. Like what the fuck or something in Japanese? I remember some of it from anime. So they were saying the bad anime And I was like, I was like, that's a Nabi, I was like, what happened is like,
Starting point is 00:06:32 apparently he didn't have the right documents. Right. But before we went in, they gathered us all around and were like, hey, some of you are gonna be rejected today for no reason. They literally said that. They said, we might reject you and not explain why.
Starting point is 00:06:46 And I'm like, what? What is this YouTube demonetization? What do you mean? I've come here all day. And you have to bring like so many fucking documents. You have to get like your license translated at a different building. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Wait a few days for that. Go to the ward office, which is another building, get proof that you live where you say you live. Yeah, bring your other license, your passport, literally every single documentation that you were ever a person to begin with. Yeah. And yeah, and then they grilled me for like an hour,
Starting point is 00:07:14 like asking me. Asking what? Well, so part of to get the foreign license, you have to prove that you were in the country where you got your license for six months after the fact. So I brought tons of paperwork proving that I would, was in the UK at the time when I got it for six months.
Starting point is 00:07:30 And they just kept grilling me and asking me pointless questions what I thought. Like they asked like, did you have like a provisional license? Which in the UK and I think in America as well, Australia too? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got a license before the actual license. They're like, did you have one? I'm like, obviously I had one.
Starting point is 00:07:43 I had to drive. Yeah, I think that's part of the official process. You need a provisional before you get a full license. I don't think a lot of countries would let you get the full thing without doing it. And I said, I'll speak about Thailand, right. Oh, okay. I'm like yeah, of course I had that.
Starting point is 00:07:59 And then they're like, how long did it take you to get your license? I'm like, what do you mean? How long? Like, did it take like a week or did you do lessons over a long time? I was like, I did lessons over a long time. And they're like, oh, did you,
Starting point is 00:08:10 how long did you ask, who cares? Who cares? Who cares? You got the full license, right? I'm like, I had it for five years and she's like, mm. And then she asked why did you have it for so long?
Starting point is 00:08:23 I'm like, why did it matter how long? Because in the UK, we don't have ID. We don't carry around. So most people get the provisional license, even if they don't intend to drive. Just as a form of ID. Yeah. So I'm here explaining like a cultural difference to her.
Starting point is 00:08:35 I'm like, so what did you say? I explained that. I'm like in the UK, we don't really have ID so people will get the ID. But that's what that's what Japanese people do as well. Is it real? Yeah, there's a lot of like what we call. Why am I being grilled for this thing? Because in Japan, a lot of people are like known as paper drivers,
Starting point is 00:08:49 which means they have the license, but they don't have it to drive. They just have it as a form of ID. Yeah. In, in the UK, people get provisional licenses because we use. That's why I got it. We used licenses to prove that we can get into bars and parks. That's pretty much the only reason we get provisional licenses. Yeah, so I had to wait an hour and I was like, cool, I'm, I'm, it's all going well.
Starting point is 00:09:08 She seems to be, you know, happy with it. She's like, yeah, okay, yeah, no problem. Just come back in two days. I'm like, what? What do you mean come back in two days? Wait, so you didn't even get it? I didn't get it. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:09:20 So you haven't got it yet? No. After waiting, how long did you, how long did you waste? I left at 4pm and I got there at 8 a.m. And it's an hour away from me. So eight hours. Yeah, like eight hours. You wasted a whole day.
Starting point is 00:09:32 I lost a whole day. To not getting a license. To get the paperwork, to get the license. Because I remember you telling me just before that you were getting this. It's all a bunch of fetch quests. This is why they love. This is why all the RPGs in Japan
Starting point is 00:09:46 have a bazillion fetch quest. Because living here is a fucking fetch quest. Every time you want to do anything, it's like, okay, get the prerequisite items, which they're all in different locations, because of course they are. Like they're not all in the government building,
Starting point is 00:09:58 because that would be too easy. That would make life too simple. That's why Gatcha games work here, because you even have the waiting time, like the loading time where you, you like think you got all the items and then you have to like put it in to like fucking, yeah,
Starting point is 00:10:09 you gotta craft the item and you gotta wait until the item is finished being crafted. And then you pull the dud, gotcha as well because you have to wait till 2.30. Yeah, so they said I have to come back on Wednesday, which is tomorrow. So I'm going there tomorrow to do the eye test.
Starting point is 00:10:23 That's it. I do the eye test. And once I prove I'm not fucking blind, I get my license. Imagine if they just reject you after that. I would fucking lose it. So you basically spend eight hours for someone to tell you come back in two days. Yeah, basically.
Starting point is 00:10:37 I know that DMV is bad in all countries, but in the UK, I would never have it that bad. It wasn't that bad. And especially with how many documents you needed to grab before just to get your license, like, just to be given a license as well. That's crazy. Because it's crazy because, like, Nabi, who went with you, who's a friend of Alice.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Like, when he went, he had such an easy time, but I guess it's because he got to be a license, before COVID. I think they've made it a lot slower from COVID. Like apparently, and they also told me that for some reason, because of COVID, the amount of people applying has gone up a lot. Well, yeah, because no one can travel outside of the country,
Starting point is 00:11:11 so therefore they want to travel inside. Yeah, true, but I guess I would have thought the other way around, but yeah, it's just... Speaking to you has made me, like, has entirely put me off from wanting to get a Japanese license now. I'm glad at least someone on trash test now has a license because we're just gonna ask you to show for us everywhere. I just, I want it, I, even when I don't need something,
Starting point is 00:11:30 I wanna just do it because if I have the free time, I know there's gonna be a, I never wanna be in the point in my life where like I need something and it's gonna take. Oh I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm like that as well, but I'm not gonna go to a DMV for eight hours to be like, come back for an eye test two days later. I didn't know they were gonna do that.
Starting point is 00:11:45 That doesn't sound worth it to me. So I'm glad you went through the pain because like I said, like I don't we know not to do it. Yeah, now I know not to do it. And I, like driving for me is a stressful experience but that's probably because I've spent most of my time driving in Thailand. Oh man.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Because I never actually drove so much in the UK because like I grew up in Brighton and then moved to London for my job. So I've never needed to be in a place where I drive frequently until I moved to Bangkok and my God, driving in just Southeast Asia in general is just nothing like driving in Japan or driving in the UK or anything. So let me describe what it is like driving in one of these kinds
Starting point is 00:12:25 of countries. Okay, so in Thailand, we don't have road rules. We have road suggestions. That's, that's kind of, so we technically have rules, but whether people follow them or not, is up to the individual driver. It's like a Mario car with like a lot more death. Oh, it is basically.
Starting point is 00:12:43 So, like, you know how you change lanes? There's like a system, for example, changing lanes, right? You signal, and then the person, like, whether, backs off. Yeah, the person backs off, whatever, like, whoever has the right of way. The right of way in the way in the way, Thailand goes, okay, we're gonna play this game of chicken. Okay, so imagine, imagine I want to change lanes or someone wants, someone else wants to change
Starting point is 00:13:03 lane and there's a car just like behind them or like in the same lane. So the person's gonna start changing lanes and either one person backs off or the person changing lane backs off or we're gonna crash. And so there's, there's no rule to say who has to back off. Right. So one of them is gonna back off or you're gonna crash. So it's basically who has the bigger balls to like not give He's gonna be the bigger man. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:13:29 It's wild. I think like, Thailand looks scary. There's other countries even worse, I think. There's like, I think in Saudi Arabia, the number one course of death is car accidents. I wouldn't be surprised. It's crazy because I don't think any other country, it's even up there.
Starting point is 00:13:43 I mean, I went to the Philippines a couple of years ago to go to see Aki's family and we had to drive through Manila. And that was one of the most terrifying things ever. Because not only is there no lanes, and it's the same thing, like, it's just whoever gets in there first, but there's also people just on the road,
Starting point is 00:13:58 just in the middle of the road trying to cross. The worst thing is like the people on the middle of the road who have just no fear of death, and then motorcycles as well. Motorcycles are like the fucking, like, annoying housefly that you just can't like fucking swat away, but they're always there and you always need to be aware of them. Like driving in Bangkok, you just have to like, you just have to master ultra instinct.
Starting point is 00:14:21 They just, every driver just needs to master ultra instinct. You just have to be like rain man basically. They've always talked about. They're fucking men turned on. That's why they can all drive, right? They got like the, like, the fucking observation hacky, like, permanently turned on when you're driving. And it's not just a motorcycle either.
Starting point is 00:14:34 It's like a, it's like one, it's like a motorcycle that's normally for like max two people that somehow have like eight people on it. And I'm just like, what? Like sometimes there's just a motorcycle and there's just like the entire family on the motorcycle plus the chauffeur as well. It's like a clown car on a motorcycle.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Don't stress me out so fucking much. Like, it's funny because Bangkok, living in Bangkok, you often take motorcycle taxis, even though in any other country, you would not take it. And I describe Bangkok as like the only place I've been to in the world,
Starting point is 00:15:03 where I will willingly risk my life every day going on a motorcycle taxi so I can save myself from sitting in an hour of traffic. Oh my God. That's the kind of city it is during rush hour. And that's just given me a huge, I wouldn't say fear of driving, but just every time like I think about driving,
Starting point is 00:15:20 it just gives me a cold sweat, like, oh, I gotta get back on that road, man. Or you've got to be a huge, man. Or you've just like perfected your like dodging techniques. Yeah. You got hit in the UK by some asshole. Not really? Yeah, yeah, I got.
Starting point is 00:15:34 So we were on, I was driving to, we have like a yearly house party where a lot of my friends in the UK catch up. And I was sitting in the car with Alan, my editor, Alex Allen's girlfriend, Sydney and Dee, Revel House. And so we were on like a country road. And we had just like, there was a car in front of us, so we just stopped.
Starting point is 00:15:58 And I like did like a kind of like a sudden stop. Yeah. Cause car in front of us like did a very quick stop. And then D was about to say nice driving Gant. And as he was as like the sound was leaving his mouth, boom. A fucking car just like tailends my car. And it fucking destroys my car.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Jesus. And like like my car is fucking walking totaled and the car in front of us has the audacity to be like, yo, this was your fault by the way. When are you paying up? And the car behind us was like, so during the interview when the police came, we called the police, we got, you know, everyone got checked up in an ambulance
Starting point is 00:16:42 and apparently he just, he was going like 60 or 70 down a crunchy road and he just had his eyes off the road. He was like, yeah, I just took my eyes off the road for a second and who knew a car could creep up on me in one second. Oh, yeah, dude, it's terrifying the country roads. Like, I mean, I learned to drive in London, but I also drove a lot in Wales, but like,
Starting point is 00:17:03 those roads and Wales are scary, because they're all, like, thick trees, right? And really tight roads, especially in, like, Wales, and then probably in Devon as well, where we were in there, like, there's, like, fucking trucks coming all the time on these roads. It's like a one-way road, or? It's, it's two, but when you get the big trucks,
Starting point is 00:17:19 it's like, you can have to, like, stop and put into a ditch. And, like, so sometimes, like, and they're normally 60, because they're national speed limit. 60 miles, right? Miles per hour. And then they'll just be like,
Starting point is 00:17:31 trucks coming and you really have to like, I feel like truck drivers in every country are like. They don't give a fuck because why would they? They win every time. If I had to rock the destroyed paper, of course I'm gonna pick rock. They're like the jocks in the school hallway, right? It's like you have to move out of the way
Starting point is 00:17:47 because they're not gonna move. Yeah, I mean that was the only car crash I've been in, but there's been many, many close calls as you can probably imagine in Bangkok. Like the health and safety in Bangkok, especially on the roads, is very worrying. How does an ambulance get to you? If you-
Starting point is 00:18:03 I've wondered that exact, I've wondered that exact same question during rush hour. Monosikely amos, like, like you can, I guess you just gotta fucking bleed out on the road, right? Because what's even, what's even scarier, right, is the taxi drivers in Bangkok. Because it's such a roulette wheel.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Okay, so for one, you'd expect one of some, one of the most dangerous cities to drive in to have a lot of like, safety measures on the public transports, right? So most taxis, you go in the back and there's no seat belts. Some of my, some of the closest near death experiences I've had have been on a fucking taxi
Starting point is 00:18:38 because taxi drivers, they don't get paid the most as well. So they work ridiculously long hours. So I remember this one time, I was, I was, I had a night out and we stayed out to about like three, four a.m. Drinking at some Izakiya in like Bangkok or whatever and we had to go home. And so we get a taxi home. And the good thing about driving back home
Starting point is 00:18:59 in the middle of like 4 a.m. is it normally driving there takes two hours, but when there's no traffic, it takes 30 minutes. That's kind of like the time you add on when you don't factor in traffic. Right. But we get in, so it's me in Sydney, and we get in this taxi.
Starting point is 00:19:14 And this guy, this guy just seems really quiet. And then he's, we get to the highway and he's doing like, fucking 80 to 100 miles an hour on this, on, on the freeway, right? And then Sydney's like, Sydney's like a sleep in the taxi. So it's just me and it's complete silence.
Starting point is 00:19:33 And then he just starts like swerving a bit. He just, you know, you know that thing? Where you wake up, you're like, whoa, whoa. And I'm like, okay, we could have crashed right there. So I asked him, are you okay? And he's like, yeah, it's, I'm completely good. I've just been out for like 36 hours. I'm like, pull over right now, pull over.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Whoa, whoa, hold on it. Hold on a second. And to explain something about, to explain like something about Thai culture, we have this thing called a Maipenlai attitude, which the closest translation is like a, Dajjubu, it's okay kind of attitude, which, you know, it's great when you're on holiday,
Starting point is 00:20:10 you know, because the reason Thailand's so great when you're on holiday is because everyone's so relaxed, you know, is stress-free. But there are some, some situations where it's very, very not a, very not a my-pen-lai situation. And this was, this was one of those, situations. So I'm asking him, are you okay? You sure you don't wanna pull over?
Starting point is 00:20:28 We can get another taxi. He's like, myp and like, mipeen lie, myp and lie. And I'm like, bro, this is a very not mypen lie situation right now that we're in. I'd be next to him the whole time like slapping his cheeks. No, I literally, I was literally in the back seat. This is no sea belt, by the way. This taxi did not have a sea bell and this guy,
Starting point is 00:20:46 just I told him to slow down and he goes, okay, I'll slow down. So he goes from 100 miles an hour to 80 miles an hour. I'm like, bro, like brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. But, uh, so. Everything is not mindful, right? Yeah, yeah, he's like, my, my, my life. And like, every, every five minutes, he would just like, I could see him nod him off, nodding off to be like,
Starting point is 00:21:03 ugh. Dude, this is where you get in the front seat next to you, just stare at him, like, listen, like, the fucking L, like, like, like, like, like, just like fucking. Because, like, Bangkok has like a, like, a, like a highway, so it's like an elevated highway. So we couldn't, I couldn't just tell him to stop and, like, and we get another taxi,
Starting point is 00:21:20 because we're in the middle of the fucking highway. So I'm, I'm, if you're in a fucking Japanese taxi, so he'll stop on the highway. They don't give a fuck, they're crazy here. Yeah, so basically I was in, it was the most stressful half hour of rides I've ever been on. Sydney was like stress free, she was asleep.
Starting point is 00:21:36 She could have died in asleep. She was the only one was my own one. It's a good way to go, I mean, I know I was up like fucking pissed out my mind at 4 a and being like, trying to have this conversation with this taxi drive. I was like, I was just trying to keep him awake and he was telling me like, oh yeah,
Starting point is 00:21:51 you know, I've got like two kids waiting for me at home and I'm just like, dude, after this taxi, drive, go home to your fucking kids. Just think about your kids. Sleep for fuck sake. Please, please, just think about your kids right now. My God.
Starting point is 00:22:02 And yeah, that was, that was one of the near life, you know, that's experience. That's that God, it's always like, yeah, Connor, come to Thailand, it'll be great. I'm like, bro, what do you mean? You make it sound like it's fucking Jason Statham movie every time you talk about it. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:22:17 They're fast and furious. You're keeping this man awake to save your life. What is this? Yeah. It's like, it's like, Yeah, I'll say earlier, like Japanese taxis, they just stop anywhere. Have you noticed that?
Starting point is 00:22:28 They are the jocks in the school. When I tell them, they don't move. When I tell them to stop around somewhere, they'll take that literally and they'll stop in the middle of the fucking busy highway. And they'll be like, all right, here you are. And I'm like, bro, what are you doing? Get through like a side road or something.
Starting point is 00:22:42 If you don't specify, like, can you stop like down the road? If you just say stop, they'll be like, okay, stopping. Yeah, they stop. That's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. If I say it like, Tomado, they stop. I'm like, we're in the middle of an intersection. Maybe you should like, He went forward a bit.
Starting point is 00:22:56 He did that when we went to the, we had ramen last week and then he stopped at the intersection. Yeah. Just stopped. And I'm like, I'm not getting out of the car. We're in a fucking intersection. Like, bro, where are you sure?
Starting point is 00:23:06 It's so weird. I don't know, because they follow road rules so strictly here, but then for some reason, taxi drivers just don't. And it's funny because I notice on the British government website, when you go to Japan it says, be careful of taxi drivers because they just stop anywhere. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:20 Especially when driving. Yeah. Because if you're behind a taxi driver in Japan, you're driving. he will probably just stop, like full, full force, just full of, it's crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, like the, like road rules,
Starting point is 00:23:33 or like who has the right of way, kind of confusing me sometimes. And okay, zebra crossings. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we have that. Zebra crossings in every country have a different meaning, and I don't know what it means in Japan. Like, so to explain, in the UK, if there's a zebra crossing,
Starting point is 00:23:48 the pedestrian always has the right of way. Yeah, yeah. Like, you never need to fear for your life. fear for your life if you're near a zebra crossing. You're taught to stop. As a driver, you stop even if you see someone walking near it. Yeah, like slow down. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:24:01 But you know, in like southeast Asia, zebra crossings mean nothing. It's a suggestion. It's a suggestion, right? In Japan, I don't know what it means either. Sometimes they stop. They're supposed to stop, but they don't. I've had instances though where I've stood
Starting point is 00:24:15 like at the front of the zebra crossing, right? They won't stop and like five cars just passed by. I'm like, can I go? You have to like start walking in the road and then they'll stop. I'm playing fucking chicken. I've got to just walk in the road and be like, halt. I have the right of way.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Cease. Sees. My lord. And then go. It's weird. I don't know why. You'd think that, you know, considering how strict their road rules are here,
Starting point is 00:24:37 and everyone leaves so much room between the cars here. I noticed that. It's like three cars were. Yeah, in the UK, it's like this much. But in Japan, it's like, all right, leave a car, at least a car. That's why I'm kind of glad that Japan doesn't have, like, roundabouts.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Can you imagine? Oh, God, it'd be terrible. Like just how much of a fucking kid. No one would like, No one would give way. Everyone would just be waiting for someone to come in. No, no, go, no, does it all. Please, go ahead, go.
Starting point is 00:24:58 No, because there was this, like, I don't know if it's an actual road rule, and I wanna preface, I don't know if it's an actual road rule, but in Australia, we were taught, and some people were taught that when you're in a roundabout, right? Usually it's like whoever's in the roundabout first, right? It's basically like, once you're in the roundabout, you have to give away to whoever's in the roundabout, right?
Starting point is 00:25:17 Yeah. But in Australia, some people were taught that, like, oh no, you always have to give way to the person on your right. And I'm just like, but then what if there's four people at the roundabout? Who's gonna give way? It's kind of like if you see them and they're far enough away on the right,
Starting point is 00:25:31 it's like, I guess go. This is why I hate roundabouts. There's no like super like rock solid logic that you can apply. Australia's the land of fucking roundabouts. Because we have around about everywhere. We have so many in the UK as well. It's kind of like, you just gotta be like,
Starting point is 00:25:44 Americans are like, what the fuck are you guys talking about? Basically you just like kind of have to, you see a car coming, you're like, do I think I can get this car in gear and go? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That just brings an extra lay of stress to my drive. Because it's like playing a quick time event. And if you fail the quick time event,
Starting point is 00:26:00 you just crash. Joey drives automatic, so he's lucky. Oh, God, yeah. Because the worst part is because you obviously have to stop most of the time of the roundabout. So you're like in, you're not in gear. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're like, you see a car and you're like,
Starting point is 00:26:13 I've seen this car, I have to quickly decide whether I can get in gear and go. And if I'm fast enough to not make that guy slow down too much, because it's just a mess. Oh yeah, dude, it's easy for me because I was just like, can I make it? Yeah, I was flooring. I'll just press the go pedal.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Yeah, I'll press my go pedal, I'm just kidding. But yeah, I did my driving test for a manual car, right? And this driving test put me off driving manual for my entire fucking life. Okay, to explain, I think you're allowed 16 minor offenses, right? 60, oh, oh, were you driving? Miner, when you're driving test.
Starting point is 00:26:43 What registers as a minor offense? Like, like. Like not indicating? No, no, no, that's a major one. Like maybe going a little too early, leaving too much time. Oh, okay, okay. Stuff that doesn't matter, but if you do a lot of them,
Starting point is 00:26:56 it would be like you're a shit driver. Stuff that won't cause an accident. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly. If your tires like hit a curb, I think that's a major. That's a major offense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like that's the level of, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:27:06 But like a minor friend is something that can't cause a crash or anything like that, I think. But I got 13 on my- Holy shit, God. I got 13 on my driving test. Oh my God. I thought I'd failed, right? So I'm gonna test the limit.
Starting point is 00:27:20 And I swear, like, because I was so fucking It was my first time, it was my first attempt at a driving test as well. And I remember this, there was always one road. I was super fucking terrified, would be on my driving test. And of course it was on my driving test. And so driving a manual, driving a manual car, it's a hill start.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Oh, I heard that as well. Yeah, it's a heel start into a roundabout. Oh, same, same. Oh my God, oh, like that, that. I remember when I pulled up, and normally I hope that the roundabout's fucking clear. Of course it's not clear, you know. So you're playing about five different mini games at once.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Yeah. And if you store the car, if you go too early, go too late, or do any of that shit, you fail the test. And that like the experience of having to drive manual and you, because with driving manual, you are constantly playing a mini game where I just wanna shut my brain off. I wanna stress free driving experience.
Starting point is 00:28:15 So yeah, that's why I've driven automatic my entire life since then basically. I've never driven in automatics. I don't know if it's like, Really? Yeah, I want to though. It'll be like fucking putting the antenna on in Mario card for you.
Starting point is 00:28:27 To see, like, it's just like baby mode. It's like, how do I crash? How do I crash this? Dude, on my way to the driving test, I did like everything wrong. Like I didn't indicate, I ran a red light, I fucked up on a roundabout, nearly caused a crash. My driving instructor was like,
Starting point is 00:28:41 it's okay if you have to do it twice. You know, it's fine. And then I got like two minors. That's it. I like went in like Nen mode, like focus. I just like killed it. And I was like, wow, okay. Damn, I'm good at this for this very
Starting point is 00:28:53 small point during the day where it mattered. It's not as bad as my uncle. He failed his first driving test. And you, do you wanna guess how he failed his first driving test? What do they do? Do you do you do you start at the DMV in your driving test? Or do you just start at a random road? We start at a random road for...
Starting point is 00:29:10 Wherever you parked your car. So in Australia, you start at the actual DMV and you have to go out of the DMV, drive around, come back to the DMV, and then once you're back at the DMV, then that's the end of the test. My uncle went out of the exit. of the exit. No.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Of the DMV. Okay. So he got in the car, he started it up, drove out two seconds later, it was like, you failed. Why? Because he drove out of the exit. Oh. So he drove out of the entrance. That sounds better than what happens in the UK. In the UK, if you do a major, like major mistake,
Starting point is 00:29:42 and you know you've done it, you have to complete the test. Oh, really? They don't tell you you failed immediately. You just, you could like do something and you know you failed, and you still just have to go through the entire test knowing that you've already failed. The moment you failed, they just immediately tell you
Starting point is 00:29:56 and they tell you to drive back. Because to the instructor, they're like, oh, sweet, we finished 15 minutes earlier, I could take a break. So they changed the UK test from when you did it now. So when I had to do it, there was like a portion of it that was with like a sat nav. And then there was another part where they were like telling me the directions. I hated it when they were telling me directions.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Oh yeah. I'm like, what, what need to be tested on this? This is like testing my ability to use like a quill. It's like, I'm never gonna use this. Like, just give me the little robot that talks. I can see where the map is, I know what the, like, when you say right to me, 10 seconds before, my brain goes dumb.
Starting point is 00:30:29 It's like, right, right, right, right. Right now, right now? Like this, this right. Like this, this right. Like my right, my brain is like, bro, when I hear directions. That's the way, I'm driving. I'm like, bro, I'm trying to change gear.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Shut the fuck up. No, what they're testing you for is for fucking backseat drivers. Yeah, just being like, don't right, right, right, right. I'm like, yo, can you judge my mixtape at least? Can I get your thoughts? It's like, that was pretty sick. If I failed the test, at least I'd want to put the mix tape on. Just slip that in.
Starting point is 00:31:01 I'll give you the mixtape for free if you let me last. Can we just put, like hook up my or something? Come on, man, this is. Don't play anything cringe. All right, I got you. You start playing all the fucking anime openings and everything. Oh, fuck, I love this opening. All right, turn right? Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:31:16 So, yes. So yeah, so now I know not to go to the fucking DMV in Japan. Thank you for you for. Thank you for taking the bullet for us. Now we don't have to hire a chauffeur for trash days, we just have you. Can't wait to go tomorrow. Yes, moving on from driving,
Starting point is 00:31:29 that was a pretty big tangent. I have an announcement, gentlemen. Oh, go on. Like, I think after 10, 12, 13 years, I may, may have a new best girl of all time. Oh, wait, who was it before? Senjegahara. So ever since...
Starting point is 00:31:47 I like white bread too. So ever since the very first time I watched Bakimonegatari. Like Senja Gahara has been my wifu. You know what I mean? She's always been the top tier girl. And like people have come close, but no one. Where are you going with this?
Starting point is 00:32:01 But no one has come close to dethroning her. But recently I caught up to the rent-a-girlfriend manga. And I think that like Chisaroo is in contention for being like my best girl of all time. Really? Yeah. Which like leads me to the question. Like when like when did you first, know that you had like a, like a best girl.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Cause I know who's yours is, Joey. Yeah. And I know Con is losing his mind at this question. This is like when people are like on the forums are like, how did you know you were in love? Like what, what did you feel like you're in love? Is it like the stomach? What is love?
Starting point is 00:32:36 What is love? And when did you first fall in love? Okay, I mean, first of all, I'm surprised that Shingyogahara was like your wifu because I always thought it was fucking Oscar. I mean like us, us, Wasa was someone who I could just respect for. Connors is dying in his corner here.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Aska isn't my wife who she's just someone I respect. Iska likes 15? No, she, well, I mean, depends on. Well, this is the biggest, no officer, she's a, uh, uh, she's a drawing. I mean, if we, I don't know if I want to open up that debate, because that debate is a fucking landmine of takes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:18 But, yeah, I mean, like, We can open that up. I don't know if I want to, man. Because you'll get a little competitive. I'm in the worst position for that. I'm in the worst position for that argument. Because you know there's no good defense for yourself. Oh, I mean, yeah, but I also don't really care.
Starting point is 00:33:35 You know? It's like you don't need a defense to be like, yes, this is my girlfriend. I don't care what you think. I love her. I mean, I don't think it's like, I'm not trying to, there's people who are like, yeah, it's pedophilia. I'm like, I don't know about that. That's stupid. But like, I think there's gonna be something
Starting point is 00:33:51 a little suss about being like, yeah, they're my wifu. Yeah. I'm not gonna willingly, you know, walk into a courtroom and being like, here is my defense. Your Honor, she was a drawing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Which, you know, like, okay. Your Honor, I have a birth certificate. She's technically 900 years old. Like I do think there's a huge difference in like having a wifu and, you know, like sexualizing. That's true, okay. A wifu is like a character who is a female,
Starting point is 00:34:19 I guess most of the time. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. I get that, I get that. Yeah, and for me, it's always been Senja Gahara, just because I, like, from watching Bakamu Nagatari, like, I love the personality and- Why?
Starting point is 00:34:31 Huh? Why? That was the biggest, huh? Huh? Huh? How dare you even question? How dare you even question? Why?
Starting point is 00:34:40 So I can, you know, think of some excuses when I need to protect myself. Just because, like, her interactions with Araragi were some of the most entertaining, like, interactions, I had seen in anime up to that point. I think it was like the way she was written and the way like, it really, what really sold me on the show
Starting point is 00:34:58 was basically Sanja Ghares' interaction with Araragi and how their romance developed and how her character was explored as well. It was just something that's like her character arc just really resonated with me. And I think that's what really a wifu is. It's a character who really like resonates with you on a personal level.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Like you don't necessarily view them as a life partner or anything like that. You were just like, damn, man. It's just a character that whatever they do, you just fucking love. Like they can say or do anything and just how they react and how they are. It's just like the highest tier of simping, right?
Starting point is 00:35:31 And Joey Hood and saw all of that and was like, nah, give me the one who sucks my neck. Yeah, pretty much. Nice character development, bro. How about you suck my neck? Senja Gahara is not my wifu, but I fucking love her as a character. Yeah, like I love how everything she does and says
Starting point is 00:35:47 is deadpan as fuck. Yeah, exactly. I love about it. It's her deadpan delivery and deadpan humor which really drew her to me. And then it was exploring another side of the character her more vulnerable side, which made me like, okay, I'm simping, I want you to be happy.
Starting point is 00:36:03 You know what I mean? Yeah, I totally get that. I'll take that Bruce. Yeah. One of the Gautari's really good at that though. That's why there's so many wifers. Yeah. But no, I agree. It's like every time like Shinobo,
Starting point is 00:36:12 like his shot came on screen, like everything she said and did, I was just like, I fucking love it. I don't know why. I can't explain it. to you in words, I just love it. That powerful that when you're done watching it, you're like thinking about it. I mean, like, she's such a good character.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Have you had, never had a character, like, wifu or not, like, female or not, that you've just like, kind of resonated with? Yeah, you can have a husbando as well. Yeah, I have a husbando. Yeah, I think so, I think so. I don't know, I can't name it. You can't name it.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Of the top of my head. I don't know. Yeah, I know, I can't really think of any immediately. Do you have a husbando? Um, I'd have to think about it. Because my husbando is a usuuu from Kai Chai Chua Maid's Maidseller. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:36:50 A guy. Yeah, so Malyne's like, all right, that's a good choice. Wait, what's it called in English that show? Kajor Maid's, is president, is the, is a maid. I don't think I've seen that. Do you want to explain his character? Okay, so Usoy is like the, I guess, so Kaichua Maid Summer is based of a Shōjonga
Starting point is 00:37:08 from like the early 2000s, I believe, and the anime's from like the early 2000s. But basically, it's the story about like how the school, like, class president, basically, is like, you know, normally the anime troupe of class president is like, you know, that they're very like pure-hearted, they're very like together, you know, they're very adult for their age kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:37:26 But this particular Kai-cho is also a maid at a maid cafe. And she gets- Sounds like I could relate to that. So basically it's like a complete opposite, right? And so basically she gets found out by this like fucking hunk of a dude called Usui who like all the girls fucking love. And so it's this like special relationship where he's trying to hide.
Starting point is 00:37:48 the fact that she's not actually this like all together, like, Maytime personality. And she fucking hates Usu for it. But of course, with how every show Jodomanga goes, she's like, actually, this guy, I might like this guy. And then Usu's also like, you know, I kind of started off, you know, just like, just teasing her, but yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:07 She's kind of hot kind of thing. That was a guy character I liked. What was that show where the character's whole thing is that he's perfect, and he's a student? Um, you know, Sakamoto. I fucking loved that. That was so good.
Starting point is 00:38:20 That was so funny. I did not go, like, that was an anime that I heard was decent, and I was like, I did not expect to love that. Oh, it's so funny. If you haven't seen Takamoto, it's basically like, the whole premise is that this guy is just the perfect human being in every way. And everyone in the school is trying to like fuck with him,
Starting point is 00:38:36 and he somehow always manages to flip it. Like, there was one time where they needed to like make a fire in a room. So he literally started doing like, back and forward. Oh yeah. He goes back and forward like jumping, Back and forward to start a fire. Yeah, and the friction starts a fire. And it's like, what?
Starting point is 00:38:53 I love this, I love this man. I wanna fuck him. It's so good. I loved him so much. That was like, I wish I was that cool. Sakamoto, like, I'll be honest, I didn't like it that much. What?
Starting point is 00:39:05 Why? It's so fun. How do you like it? It's because Sakamoto, pretty much like, every problem I have with most comedy anime is in Sakamoto, which is, I like the first two episodes. And then I'm like,
Starting point is 00:39:17 Oh, is the joke to a repetitive. They kind of doing the same joke over and over. But it got funnier every time for me. I don't know why. Because I knew it was coming. It was always funny when it can. I don't know why. It's like you knew, like, whatever situation it was,
Starting point is 00:39:31 it's like you knew. He was gonna come out on top. He's gonna solve it, but it's the excitement of like, how is he gonna do it? The absurdity of how he was gonna overcome. I love that show because it completely defies expectations of like, oh, he's probably gonna do this, but then they just completely flippin and be like,
Starting point is 00:39:45 oh, yeah, there was no point in my mind. where I thought he was gonna friction burn the floor into a fire to save all the students. Like I didn't see that coming. And then he was just like, I just wanted to work out. That's all right. Yeah, yeah, and it's like what? It's so fun.
Starting point is 00:40:01 That's like, I love the comedy anime like that that are just like not trying too hard, I guess. Yeah. It's really weird because I've had the hardest time getting into comedy anime. Comedy anime are normally the worst type of anime. There are very few comedy anime that I enjoy. And I put most of them in the same category
Starting point is 00:40:16 as like Sakamoto, where, It's funny to me for like one or two episodes and then I get bored very quickly if they're just kind of doing the same thing. I always need to like, I always need to be, they always need to be doing something different for me. So what about, what about something like Nietzschejo? Wait, wait, yeah, what's, yeah,
Starting point is 00:40:31 Nizuio and also what do you think is like the best comedy anime? Yeah. Oh, that's, in my opinion, it's Nichio. Nishio? Yeah. Like off the top of my head, probably the, probably the hardest I've ever laughed
Starting point is 00:40:43 at a comedy anime was probably Golden Boy, if you remember that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that was most- That's an old one. That's a really old one and that's only like a six episode over-year. So I never got the chance to get bored with it.
Starting point is 00:40:55 And it is one of the best dubs I have ever heard, especially when it comes to a comedy anime. Because you must have seen the meme, like of the one clip where it's the guy doing the swimming. Yeah, blah, la, la, la. Yeah, that's the one clip that gets shared out of Golden Boy. And if you're gonna, if you laugh at that clip, please watch Golden Boy, because it's like every,
Starting point is 00:41:16 Every point of Gordnaboard I feel like is just as good as that clip. And that was just a one clip that if, if I would sell you on that show. Yeah. I could easily rewatch that. I also also way, oh, Conno Suba. Than I thought it was going to be when I first got it.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Conno Suba is good. Conno Suba, I've, I really enjoy in the same way I enjoy like, uh, always sunny in Philadelphia or something like that. Oh my God, fuck it. It's just, it's just a bunch of awful people doing awful things and it's fucking hilarious. We need an anime that's as awful as always sunny.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Always Sunny is like my favorite fucking comedy. I love it. so much. Yeah. The Conno sub movie as well was surprised. I haven't watched that, yeah. Yeah, but it was also really weird because it was really funny,
Starting point is 00:41:54 he had no one in the cinema was laughing out wow. Japanese cinemas. Yeah, so I felt really bad laughing out loud. I was just like, ha! Do you ever feel, did you ever wish there was more like, I guess, Western humor in comedy anime? Yeah, because a lot of it does kind of feel.
Starting point is 00:42:07 A lot of it's very anime-esque comedy. It's very, like, some of it's very slapstick. What would classify though as like Western comedy? Right? That's the question, really. I think we're, because slapstick as well as technically worse. I don't necessarily even think the Japanese humor
Starting point is 00:42:23 is as slapstick as we like to point out. I think there's a U-Tidded a video on this. And it's like, well, there's like, I mean, there's a lot of, there's TV shows in Japan, right? Where like the whole comedy is like game shows with their like language, right? Oh yeah, like WIS shows. There's a bunch of other stuff like that,
Starting point is 00:42:39 but I feel like at least in Western, we're like really fucking brutal with our comedy. You know what I mean? Like, you watch something like always sunny and it's like how, I couldn't imagine anything like that coming out of Japan. I kind of imagine like a family guy in Japan. Right, it's weird though,
Starting point is 00:42:55 because you have the game shows here which go above and beyond what we would think is acceptable. Yeah. But then when for some reason comedy, it's like they don't really joke about that kind of stuff. Right, right. It's a lot of wordplay in Japan, I feel. Like Japanese comedy, it's a lot of wordplay.
Starting point is 00:43:08 A lot of word play, right? But like, they have like the show like fucking orgasm wars in Japan, where it's basically a show about if a dude can make another dude Yeah. That's the whole premise. What? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Yeah, he recently did a video on it, but basically the most famous one was there was this, it was, it was versus this like super professional Japanese like male porn star who can like, he says like, I can control when I come. Basically. So he's like, it's a 40 minute shoot. All right, I'll come at minute 38. I could come at command. Yeah, basically he was like, I can come at command, which means that if you tell me not to come,
Starting point is 00:43:43 I'll never come. And then he had to vote. He had to verse this guy, this, uh, Versus. Yeah, it was a versus, like he basically had to verse this guy. He was a bartender in Shinjuku, which is like the gay district of Shinjuku. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:59 And he's like considered to be, he says he can make any man come with his skills, right? Right. So basically they put them, they put both of them in a room, right? This is on TV, by the way, on national TV. So they put him in a room, he's inside, the male pawns stars like inside of a box that's completely covered, and the gay guy gets in, basically,
Starting point is 00:44:18 and you don't see anything, but they're both miced up. So you can hear everything. And basically- How does this pass television? How? And of course, you know, with traditional Japanese television, like in the corner, there's like always the reaction, like, face cam. And this is a bunch of people just fucking losing themselves,
Starting point is 00:44:36 just watching a dude, suck off a gay. Doesn't he like make him nut, like, immediately? He makes him nut in like five minutes. And the funny, and the funniest part is like, obviously like, you know, watching the male porn star, like, come on national TV, but then the gay guy coming out and being like, Gortez-so-sama. That's so fucking funny.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Do you hear like the dick-sucking sounds? Oh yeah, yeah. It's on YouTube as well, mind you. Oh, okay. If you look it up, I guarantee it's on YouTube. It's crazy that that's like totally acceptable. Yeah. But then like their humor doesn't,
Starting point is 00:45:10 maybe not even like it's not allowed, but they don't really find that funny. Right. Maybe. No, no, they find it funny. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like that was one of the most, like, legendary pieces.
Starting point is 00:45:19 Yeah, they found like that funny, but then why would you reckon that something like Sunny would be, do you reckon that would be funny to Japanese people? I don't know, really. Have you watched Sunny? Yeah, I've seen a bit of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:29 They probably think, man, these people are really rude. Yeah. Like, yeah, that's what's so funny about. Yeah, yeah. I don't know, because like the reason I've really enjoyed Konasuba over something like, say, Sakamoto, is that Connozub was like way more character-based comedy.
Starting point is 00:45:44 And I very much enjoy character-based comedy, where a lot of- It's just like, Mr. Bean. Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. Sorry to cut you off, but. And no, that's like the perfect analogy, where a lot of comedy anime- Is the perfect bean.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Yeah, a lot of the comedy anime I see is just like, hey, there's this one joke and it's funny, like the first few times. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's see how far we can stretch it. But eventually, eventually, I'm gonna get bored. Yeah. Whereas with a lot of, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:08 sitcoms and everything like that, you know, it's a lot of, it's a lot of character-based comedy where, you know, some of the best moments are seeing how knowing the characters and seeing how they will interact with each other. And, you know, that's what the comedy builds off of. You talked about Nietzschejo. I haven't actually seen Nietzschejo yet. You have to see Nietzschejo? I haven't. It's been, it's been, it's been like one of the one anime, the one comedy anime. I know if you love Sakamoto,
Starting point is 00:46:32 you'll fucking love Nietzschejo. Because Nietzschejo is the, is that one comedy anime where every joke is expectation defining. Yeah. Because one thing I will say about Nietzschejo is that it doesn't seem like it's not a character based comedy, is it? Mm. It kind of is... Every clip I've seen looks like funny as far. Oh, it's funny as far. The thing that sells me on like what makes me really want to watch Nietzschejo is that every
Starting point is 00:46:53 clip I've seen is vastly different and vastly like they have an original approach to a joke every time where they'd be like animation or the punchline or something. Um, so I would probably really enjoy these shows as well. Yeah, Nietzschejo is interesting because I feel it's kind of half, uh, it's like halfway between Sakamoto and Konasuba. and Konasuba in the sense that it's a lot like Sakamoto where like all the jokes are very, you know, expectation defying and stuff like that. But as you're watching these like short clips of like,
Starting point is 00:47:22 because it's basically just a bunch of short jokes put into one episode essentially, but the way that they do it, the way that it's written is that like each character's like development is, you know, very physically defined. So by the end of like the 20 something episodes in Yichizhou, you know exactly what these characters are like.
Starting point is 00:47:38 So there is character development and character comedy, within it as well, which I think is what makes it especially funny. Where the more episodes you watch, the more you start to understand, okay, this character is like this and this character is like this. So I can expect some kind of joke like this. But then the writing's like, no, fuck all of that that you thought you were going to expect, we're going to give you something completely different.
Starting point is 00:47:59 And that's what makes it so funny. And of course, it's Kyoto animation. So you know, I have been meaning to watch it for like forever. Are you like, I've seen the dead scene, the deer scene so many times. Every time I fucking lose it. Like there are so many layers to that one scene. Oh, so good. That just makes me want to watch Nietzschejo.
Starting point is 00:48:16 Yeah. Especially after when I helped you film the video with the interview with one of the main. Oh, on the Michael, yeah, yeah, yeah. And she was super chill and nice. Yeah, she was the voice of Yucca. Yeah. And I felt bad because I'm like,
Starting point is 00:48:27 I wish I could appreciate being in front of you more. It was crazy because her regular voice is literally Yuco. So I'm just like, holy shit, it's like I'm talking to Yucca. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, it's fucking hilarious. I mean, I'm sure people can agree. But that's a good thing about Nishishio. is that like unlike Konasuba where you kind of have to like understand the story and the characters.
Starting point is 00:48:45 Like it's very, I feel it's really hard to like watch a Konasuba scene out of context and it's still be funny. Yeah, yeah, I would agree with you because it's the characters that have been built up. Right, right. You need to understand the characters. But Nietzschejo somehow, there is characters in it, but they've somehow established the joke where you can just watch a clip completely out of context and it's still fucking hilarious. Yeah. Yeah. Because okay, like to counter off that point, there's the other show that I can think of where I got kind of bored quite was a pop team epic. Which, you know, unfortunately, sorry, Joe, no, nothing to do with you.
Starting point is 00:49:17 No, no, it's okay. Like the reason. I heard your narration, Joey. I turned that shit off immediately. Wasn't funny. Try again. Like, Pop Team Epic was great until I realized that not every, not funny.
Starting point is 00:49:28 No, no, that not every clip was funny. And like, and then I realized that the optimal way to watch Pop Team Epic was just to watch like the YouTube compilations of the best ones, right? And so I realized that, hey, I could spend 10 minutes or 20 minutes if you wanna watch both versions,
Starting point is 00:49:45 or I could spend like five, or three to five minutes just watching the best parts. Yeah, I hated how it played twice. Yeah, that shit was weird. It was okay for one episode, but I was like, oh, we're doing it, oh, we're doing it every episode. Every time, yeah. I mean, I can, you know, having been in the anime,
Starting point is 00:49:59 I can confidently say a lot of it wasn't funny. A lot of it was just really stupid in my opinion. Yeah, it was very like, except for the episode I was in, that was funny. That was a banga. That was a bad. That's in the top 10 anime episodes of all time, you're like, come on.
Starting point is 00:50:14 Yeah, it was like way too much, Ha ha ha, XD, internet humor, like internet meme humor a lot of the times. I would say the one comedy anime that I'd say pulled that off well, but this is going back, way back. I don't know if you guys have heard of this anime called Cromati High School. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:30 That's like a really, really old anime that kind of predicted a lot of internet and meme humor way before, way before this was like prevalent. in like our culture. And I remember the one clip that made me watch the entire thing was, it was, I can't remember when it came out, but it was like early 2000s.
Starting point is 00:50:48 It was like 2000, 2002 or something. And it was like parodying internet trolls and stuff like that. In like the early 2000s, something like this is fucking brilliant. It was so ahead of his time. Yeah. I don't know if it has aged badly
Starting point is 00:51:01 or not badly. I haven't rewatched in a while. But that was also something where the dub was fucking brilliant as well. Yeah. Yeah, I remember reading the manga at a friend's place and I've never laughed so hard reading a manga.
Starting point is 00:51:13 What's an anime that was funny purely because it was just so fucking awful. I mean, there's a lot. That's my entire career, just watching bad anime laughing at it. I watched Kings game for the first time. I fucking lost it. I couldn't stop laughing at how shit is out. No, no, no, King's game was bad.
Starting point is 00:51:32 And then there was the dub. Oh, don't know. I didn't watch the dub. Is it bad? I felt so bad because it was obvious that like, you know, it wasn't on their priority. Yeah. It was rough, dude, it was rough.
Starting point is 00:51:45 That's a real shame as well, because like, when I heard that the Kings game anime was like fucking horrible, I was like, oh man, I kind of liked the manga though. So it's like really a shame that the anime just like completely fucked it. I can't remember because I only watched two episodes where I was like, ah, I've seen enough.
Starting point is 00:51:58 I'm satisfied. Like, I was just like, fuck dude, this is fucking awful. I think the scene I burst out on, I burst out laughing out was, I think there was a challenge where, the guy had to sleep with the girl or something like that. Yeah. And it's, the girl is like the main guy's girlfriend or crush.
Starting point is 00:52:19 I can't remember what it was. But so, so it's his best friend who has to sleep with this girl who is the main character's girlfriend. I'm just gonna say girlfriend now. And so he doesn't wanna do it. So he doesn't wanna betray his bro like that. So the main character is trying to fucking argue with this guy to sleep with his girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:52:37 And so he refuses. What he does, his solution is to fucking deck the guy in the face until he's unconscious. And then he turns to his girlfriend in the dub and just do it while he's unconscious, please. And I'm just like, oh my God. So bad. I need to watch the dub now.
Starting point is 00:52:58 And I've never like, I've never laughed so hard at just the idea of just basically just a guy getting fucking raped, right? I mean that's basically what happens. It's fucking awful, but the way the way the anime played it so seriously contrasted to how awful the situation was and how it was being portrayed was just like the juxtaposition just made me fucking laugh man.
Starting point is 00:53:24 Like it's, like obviously rape isn't a joke and everything like that, but this anime was so awful that you couldn't help but laugh is what I was trying to say. Oh my God. Or what you Jerry, any anime you think of the top of your head? Oh my God, I mean like, I mean I've been meaning to like make a series on my channel where I do exactly that, where I just take the worst anime and just laugh at it. Like, I don't know. A lot of the, like, the most horrible ones are like, obviously the ones that
Starting point is 00:53:48 no one's who fucking heard off, clearly. So, uh, like, I don't know, what's a famous one? Like, like, like, Skelter Heaven is a famous one. Mars of Destruction's a famous one. You ever seen any of those? No. You ever seen those? I haven't, I still haven't seen Mars of Destruction. Oh, Mars of Destruction. Skeleton sounds familiar. I don't know why. Yeah, Tkelter, it's like one of the worst rated anime, basically. Aiken's another one that's one that's the worst rate. Oh, not Iken. Oh, Aiken is so bad. I love it.
Starting point is 00:54:16 But yeah, I mean to make fucking some videos on them all, but like those ones make sense though, right? Because it's like, of course no one knows them. They're fucking horrible. Yeah. Right. But I'm trying to think like what's like a well-known anime? That's bad.
Starting point is 00:54:28 That is like horrible. Like it's because it's bad. Because like the only one I can think of is this anime called Garzi's wing. Oh yeah. Like a meme, right? That's less famous and more infamous. I'd say like the most other infamous one
Starting point is 00:54:43 is probably the ghost stories dub, maybe. I mean, if we gotta bring up ghost stories, maybe so we'll talk about it. Okay. The ghost stories dog? It was fucking legendary. My favorite fucking dub. We're never gonna get anything like that ever again.
Starting point is 00:54:56 We never will because, do you know the story behind how that's up on made? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, a lot about it. Why don't you explain it for people who don't know? Basically, ghost stories is a, okay, what is the actual plot of this? Kids go into an abandoned school building,
Starting point is 00:55:13 find ghosts, try and resolve. Isn't it just their school building? It's like there's just ghosts and they have to use. No, no, it's like an abandoned side of the building, right? There's like the main building and then there's the abandoned side. Who the fuck fucking pays attention? I know. And yeah, they basically have to get rid of ghosts.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Yeah, basically. Basically, it's, the story doesn't matter. What matters is the dub, as is considered one of the best or the best worst dub of all time or the worst best dub of all time. Yeah, it's weird because online, it seems to be like people can't agree if it's like good or bad. Yeah, I can't understand how.
Starting point is 00:55:47 It's funny. It's the room of anime. Yeah, yeah. So basically what happened is this, this was a show that sold so poorly when it aired in Japan that when they sold the licenses, they just basically told the licenses, do whatever you want with this show to make it sell.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Like we don't care. You have all creative, you have, have all creative control. And so basically they just shit posted in the dub. It's often seen as the very first abridged series because it's basically what happens if you, if a bunch of official dubbers just basically fanned up and abridge the show and fuck about.
Starting point is 00:56:25 And it's one of the most infamous like dubs that has ever been released. I like the father kills me every time is like the little, the younger brother. And his entire like time he's just going, like everything, like his mouth's moving, but the dog is just like, I'm gonna make him cry in every line. There's a really good video about it by Cartoon Seif.
Starting point is 00:56:46 I can't remember if it did sell badly or not. I know that's the common thing, but I swear there was some point where that actually wasn't the case, and it did do well. I can't remember exactly the story, but again, yeah, Cartoon Seif did a really great like 30 minute video about this whole dub. They spoke to a ton of sources.
Starting point is 00:57:00 It's really good video. It's just a really unique dub and also because of how they recorded it, Normally when you record anime, whoever goes in first is like the first to record. So basically they all wanted to go in first so they could like start the improv scene. Right, right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:57:15 So everyone had to play off of went first. So they were all trying to get in first. It was just interesting because when you're watching it, you know that, you're like, ah, I wonder who started like. What this scene. Yeah, because even if they spoke first, doesn't mean they were the one who recorded first.
Starting point is 00:57:26 Yeah. So it's fun to try and figure out, hmm, I wonder who fucking started this shit joke basically. And it's just such a fun, dumb. Have you, have you guys watched it all? Oh yeah, I've seen it all, yeah. Yeah, it's so fun. I really wish that we could get something again, but we're never gonna get anything.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Yeah, yeah, it's different times. It's different times now. I'm sure some of the jokes that were set end up probably would not be able to have like, you couldn't get away with in this day and age. Oh, God, no, God no. But it's just such like a time stamp for that time period.
Starting point is 00:57:56 And it's just basically all improv as well, which is kind of funny how some, like, some of the jokes I thought were very good And the fact that it wasn't scripted at all and it was just all improv, I'm just like, man, this, this, this, I still think it's funny to this. Oh, yeah, yeah. Even though it might be slightly, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:13 not politically correct. It's definitely not politically correct. Like the rabbits here. Yeah, oh yeah. It's, it's, it's, uh, wait, what was the joke about that rabbit where like the dad leaves or something? No, no, it was like the. Yeah, I can't get with you,
Starting point is 00:58:28 it's not because you're a rabbit, it's because you're black. Oh my God. Do you remember that one? The joke, I did. Oh my God. And then the rabbit, like in the flashback, the rabbit is like talking in the flashback, it's like, touch me harder.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Oh yeah, right, right, right. Yeah, you'd never get away with that now. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I think it's also back then, like, there was money in it, but the money level scale is like very different. Oh, yeah, yeah. And I think a lot of the dubbing is focused more on the big shows.
Starting point is 00:58:54 But aside from dobs, like what is like, universally considered like, oh, this show just kind of sucks and it's just not very good. Oh, man. It could be, it could be, objectively bad, like we can be talking like- This is gonna be like hot takes though now. Like- Is that what trash taste is all about?
Starting point is 00:59:09 I don't know, I can't decide if the reason I thought Higarashi was shit was because I watched it and dub. That's definitely the reason why it was shit. Because I thought the show kinda sucked after like episode two. I was like, wow, this is really fucking boring. Is it like that normally? Is it boring after episode two or is that because of the dub?
Starting point is 00:59:27 No, it really picks up like near the end, in my opinion. Again, this is when I watched Higarashi when I first started started watching anime, so this is nearly like. Also, you've been tainted by the dub. Yes. I mean, we talked about the dub the other day, very briefly. I will say I've just recently watched Higarashi
Starting point is 00:59:43 for the first time. Dubbed? And I watched it dubbed. Why? Why? And it was a hilarious watch at times, because the Higarashi dub is really bad. And it's not like, it's not the kind of bad
Starting point is 00:59:59 where it's awful that you can laugh at. It's just, there's one good voice, Yes, yes, yes, yes. I think. And everyone else is just pretty bad. Wait, which character is, that's the good one. I think it's Shion? What colors are hair?
Starting point is 01:00:10 That's how I remember. Three, three. Oh yeah, yeah. She's the one of the screaming, a lot of the screaming, right? I remember that's pretty good. I've seen the dub scene where she like does the maniacal screaming. I'm like, and I looked at that clip and I'm like, oh, the dub must be alright.
Starting point is 01:00:23 There was a lot of people who when the new show was announced were like, I hope you're bringing back the old cast and I'm like, I hope they don't bring back you. Why would you want that? I mean they met the Japanese cast. And they did. The job as well. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:00:35 People were saying they were, when they saw that the Japanese one was announced that they wanted to bring it back, they were like, because there's an argument we made where it's like, oh, the actors are probably better now and stuff, but it's also like, yeah, sometimes it's like, just we cast it, get a new slate going. I mean, if they are going to bring back the original cast,
Starting point is 01:00:51 please, like, have a re-auditioning, you know? Or like, please like make them audition because, you know, the quality of dubbing is, I'd say, a lot better now. Oh, it's much better, much better. Yeah. Back then there were definitely some very, very good dubs, but it was definitely a much larger spectrum than you get now.
Starting point is 01:01:11 I mean, some of the dubs that came out after Cowboy Bebop dub is like, oh, oh, this came out the same time. Oh, okay. Oh, oh no. I remember when back in the day, when it was like every dub was like mediocre to shit and then there was Cowboy Bebub.
Starting point is 01:01:27 And everyone just pointed to Cowboy Bebop as the golden shell to be like, yo, yo, no all dubs are bad. We got Cowboy Bebop back. It was like the DeCaprio. I know. I think as well, even the people who, like, I think, I think, Bryce Papenburg, I think, I don't know if this is true.
Starting point is 01:01:44 I was told this. So a lot of the actors, even though they were the voice and there was no problem with the voice, and it's great, they still have to audition again for season two, just to make sure that they still have. Just to make sure they still got it. Just to make sure it wasn't a flu.
Starting point is 01:01:56 I think I heard that. I don't know that's true. I mean, I'm happy to be corrected on it, but that's what I was told. But yeah, I mean, I thought, I mean, it might have been because I watched the dub as well, but I just, I just didn't care. It was not a shit, right?
Starting point is 01:02:07 Why would you do that to yourself though? Okay, this is back, okay, I don't know, you 100% did not have this face. Of course, all right. But when I first got into anime, I only watched up because I came from like, that. No, that's understandable, right? I was like, I'm not used to it.
Starting point is 01:02:23 I rarely, I only do it once every while for a foreign film that everyone says is like amazing. I have to watch them. If I have to watch them talk French, fine. You know, don't like doing that. I'm getting excited by people. But you know, for a very long time, I watched only dub. And this just happened to be one of the top rated shows.
Starting point is 01:02:42 And I watched it dub, thought it was shit, and then I just moved on with my life. And then obviously later on down the line, a show comes out that you're like, I really wanna watch the show, it's only available on sub, you make an exception, and then suddenly everything becomes the exception, and you start watching only sub. Fair, fair, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:56 It's kind of, I think a lot of anime fans go through that, where they wanna watch dub if possible. And I kinda know, because I'm like, you'll come around, you will, because there'll be that one show that's coming out that you're like, all right, Demon Slayers on episode 19, everyone said it was hype. Yes, I'm watching.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Yeah, yeah. Because now I, whenever I get the chance, I watch dubbed all the time, because there's- It's come full circle. Yeah, the chances where I can watch dub are like a lot less than just me watching sub. So if it's probably, you know,
Starting point is 01:03:23 like, if it's out on Netflix or something, I'm probably gonna wait for the dub, like I did for The Great Pretender. Because I was like, I knew I could watch it on Netflix in Japanese, with subtitles, but I wanted to wait for it to be dubbed so I could enjoy it in a different language. I could not express my disappointment in the dub
Starting point is 01:03:40 when they dubbed it like multilingual to begin with. So when they were speaking Japanese, they were speaking Japanese. And when they were speaking English, they were speaking English. Right, right, right, right. Only for the first 10 minutes. And then they just cut, they put a note on screen saying, all right, back to normal. Yeah, they did that in the sub though.
Starting point is 01:03:56 Yeah, as well. As well, but like, why? Just because I guess, well, because in the sub, for the first 10 minutes, it was the most god-awful English that I've ever heard. And I was like, thank God it's a Japanese now. The French guy was okay.
Starting point is 01:04:09 The French guy was fine, but... The Japanese guy sounded like, I mean, here's the thing, right? The Japanese guy was like, I've done duolingo. He sounded pretty bad, but also, have you said? People speak English here?
Starting point is 01:04:22 Yeah. I don't mind it, because when I heard the Japanese person speak broken English, I was like, yeah, that sounds right. Yeah, cool. Yeah, but can you enjoy the entire series as much hearing that?
Starting point is 01:04:31 I would not be able to like immerse myself. There's, there's a difference being like. I'd argue it's almost more immersive that he's speaking to me in broken English. I mean, like, it's, it's, it's possibly too immersive in that sense. Cause like, I can't, I can't, I can't imagine like, like, I can't imagine him being like a fucking top clay, like class A.
Starting point is 01:04:52 The French guy was so good though. The French guy was good. The French guy was good, but I can't imagine like a class A actor like scamming all these people with that like broken English, you know. what I mean, that just, that just, give me all your money! But it's like sometimes in, you know, when you watch a Hollywood movie,
Starting point is 01:05:08 they might have like, not a main, but like a side character, it's pretty prominent who speaks fucking broken English. Yeah. And that's fine. I don't like it though. Why don't you like it? Because it's broken. But they're trying the best of little English.
Starting point is 01:05:18 No, but they're not like, they're never like the main character or the main focus. I guess, I don't know, there was something that was really like, refreshing about hearing a guy with a Japanese accent, who clearly was Japanese, speak fluent,
Starting point is 01:05:31 like Japanese, then go to English, even though I guess, I guess they were speaking mainly. Yeah, because if you have, if you're gonna have a show that where they speak mainly English, then why not just, why not just re-dub it? So it's, you know, it's, you know, it's, so it's more English. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:46 I'm sure, I'm sure there was actors out there who sounded Japanese, but were like native quality English. Right, right. That could have been, Ken Watanabe, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Someone on like Ken Watanabe's level definitely would have worked.
Starting point is 01:05:59 I love the French guy though. I love the, no, no, that, thick French hands. If we could get that level of, what's the, what's the word I'm looking for? Multilingual. Multilingual. Multi-lingual fluency, I'm sure.
Starting point is 01:06:15 That's a term. That's a term that we definitely didn't just coin. I know there's a term for it. I'm just drawing a blank. I have no, I don't look at me. Multilingual fluency. I get what you mean, though. Don't worry.
Starting point is 01:06:30 I get what you're saying. Cause you know, like Hollywood films, you always expect when someone's from that country that they come from that country, right? And like, yeah, okay, the budget is, it's not even in the same ballpark, right? But I think it's doable. I actually wouldn't have minded the great tender
Starting point is 01:06:47 with the broken English the whole time. I mean, there's a level of broken English I would find acceptable one. That was not like, I would just be like laughing half the time. It's like, you know, I love Ken Watanabe but I don't think I'd be able to watch an entire movie where, 90% is good.
Starting point is 01:07:01 I could. Like, he's English, is amazing. Yeah, Ken, Ken's English, I feel is good enough. It's good, but like even then, it's like coming, cutting close with me. And like, and like the English in Great Pretender was like nowhere near that level. I guess, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:16 I'm sure there's actors out there who are Japanese who live in LA who could have like, probably have done it. Oh yeah, of course, but did they have the budget for? Probably not. Yeah, I mean, that's home with anime. It just felt like a, like, this was the perfect show to really try and pull that off. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Just kind of disappointed. Also, I think it's because to most Japanese audiences who are watching Great Pretender, that level of broken English is like, damn, this boy can speak English. Whoa, he's basically fluent. I'm sure Japanese side would have also liked to have maybe heard the same thing, right?
Starting point is 01:07:47 Where with the English people trying to speak the Japanese sounding somewhat competent? I don't know, maybe. Yeah, maybe, maybe. I don't know, there might have been like a slight like racism problem, though, involved in that, right? Even though it's really not racism, but you know, people always throw that out, right?
Starting point is 01:08:00 I think like, oh, they're speaking in a funny accent, must be racist. Yeah, I feel like the rules do work a bit differently from like live action film to, you know, dubbed, you know, and voice acting and stuff like that. Because the expectation isn't that you can get like a multilingual cast. It's that there's like one spoken language
Starting point is 01:08:18 and you should speak like, that's true. That's true. You just stick to like that one spoken language and everything else is like, it can be passable. I guess, I guess like, yeah, when you watch, what's a, what's a movie with like multiple languages? I guess, because if, has multiple languages, you wouldn't need a dub, right?
Starting point is 01:08:33 I guess, yeah, you wouldn't need a dub, right? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I guess that makes sense. Yeah, it's a bit confusing. Yeah, I mean, in Inglores bastards, they put subtitles, I think, when they speak different languages. They're like hard-coded on the film,
Starting point is 01:08:46 yeah, in the movie. Yeah, yeah. I know, because I watched a movie recently that was about, like, World War II. Also, really fucking awkward, being the only white guy in, like, a World War II movie about, like, the Japanese being, like, destroyed.
Starting point is 01:08:58 I was just sitting there, And my seat like this, like, I'm not American. Just waving the flags. Yeah. Cause like, like, you know, like when the fucking, like, there was like the planes were being bombed and shit. And I'm like, do I like feel happy
Starting point is 01:09:13 that the Japanese got like, one tier? Like, are they happy or are they like, darn those American. Yeah. They got us. It was weird. They got us. Damn it. I didn't know like what the vibe is in the cinema.
Starting point is 01:09:25 You know? Like, considering have we talked about that time We watched, what's that film? Fukushima 50. Oh my God. Fukushima 50. So that we, we- Holy shit, Joe wasn't there.
Starting point is 01:09:38 I wasn't there, you weren't there. But, okay, so is it called Fukushima 50? Yeah, Fukushima. So there was this film that was made in Japan about the whole Fukushima tragedy. And it's by Katakama. And it's by Katakawa, so we got invited to like a private screening of it.
Starting point is 01:09:53 So we got, we got an early copy, basically. To give our thoughts to that. And, you know, whole film, you know, It's, it's, it's, it's, Ken Watanabe is in it. Ken Watanabe is in it. He's fucking amazing. Yeah, it's great. Yeah, there's, there's, you know, I'd rate it a good like six out of ten.
Starting point is 01:10:08 There were some really good moments and then there were some really boring moments. And then there were these moments in it where they focused on these American characters. And the like the American, the American military who, who wanted to, you know, who wanted to help Japan. And for one, some of them weren't even American. They were like, they were like South, South Africa. Yeah, there's this one South African dude in it. They were like South African in this military American military boardroom and he sounded, they didn't even try to fucking hide it.
Starting point is 01:10:37 He sounded like such a thick, so. And it's not like a light accent South African. It's really fucking full on. Like half of them, and I was just so confusing. And yeah, go on. Yeah, and I can't remember the exact line, but there was this one, do you remember the exact line? I do, do you want to explain the exact line?
Starting point is 01:10:54 I might be paraphrasing, but it was roughly something like. So that, okay, to explain, To explain the scene before he says the line. So it was, so obviously the Fukushima emergency was happening and the Americans were like discussing how to help, help the Japanese and how to provide aid and stuff like that. All these scenes were shot like,
Starting point is 01:11:12 so the Japanese scenes were shot like perfect. This cinematography was on point. And then it cut to like a fucking sitcom quality-looking camera. Like a head-eam. It looked really shit. And then the actors opened their mouth and you're like, oh, fuck. And imagine a script, right, of how Japanese people think
Starting point is 01:11:31 that American people talk about the war. That's the only way I can describe how the Americans spoke because it was like, the one line was like when it blew up, it cuts to the Americans and they were like, man, you think they would have learned how to handle nuclear technology after we nuked them. And I was like, that was like the line. And we all looked at each other like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:50 Did you just say that? What the fuck? Yeah, like, we were in like this, this like private screening. We looked around. It was me, Connor, Sydney and Maylin, and then every, like, just Japanese businessmen. And the Japanese businessmen were like fully immersed, they were quiet and were like, yes,
Starting point is 01:12:07 this is our American speak. And I was looking around at Connor City and Maylind and we were just all like, my jaw was like, drop. And we just hear. Like, is this okay? I'm like, what? They can't say that, can they?
Starting point is 01:12:21 And then you like, it was just so bad. It was so bad. It was so bad. And I just like to imagine the first the fucking South African guy cutting him be like, oh, I agree with everyone in this room right now. I was the South African guy who said it. And it was just every time it was like,
Starting point is 01:12:38 please don't cut to the Americans, please don't cut to the American and it cuts to the fucking Americans. It was just like an 80s sitcom. You were totally fucking right. And they had like this flashback scene as well with this one American general who had no play in the plot or whatever had zero screen time and then they just, it just randomly cuts
Starting point is 01:12:55 to a flashback of him in Japan. I'm like, why is this in the film? And then like towards the end, there's just a shot of like the Americans coming and giving water bottles to them and it's like, all right, sick. I'll take a bottle of Evian. Hell yeah, dude.
Starting point is 01:13:12 Just been new, but thanks for the water, bro. This will really save us, thanks, America. Like, if that line was in an American film, the fucking shitstorm, it was stopped. Yeah, that's the thing, right? It's okay because it's written, like, I assume it was written by a Japanese and outsourced to like an American company on a budget,
Starting point is 01:13:33 I'm fucking guessing, it was like, it was awful. I can't say the American like outsourcing was like, we have to translate this? Are we last, I say it? This is right, right? Yeah, I mean, it was fine. I guess I just try not to go to films where Japanese the bad guys,
Starting point is 01:13:49 I've kind of learned my lesson. Yeah, yeah, it's brutal. Yeah, I thought I was gonna watch Tenet, but it turned out it was just a war movie. I genuinely got the, the wrong tickets. Yeah, yeah. The wrong thing.
Starting point is 01:13:59 I paid for the wrong tickets. Yeah, I wanted to watch Tenet. I did watch Tenet, really good by the way. Yeah? Watch it, yeah, it's basically. I wanna watch that as well. It's like Inception, but more mind fuck, I think. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:12 I know what we're talking about? We were talking about it. We were talking about it. Why do they talk about the cinema? I don't know. I don't fucking, I don't know. Everyone can scroll back and find out, all right, we can't do that, though.
Starting point is 01:14:23 Yeah, everyone's gonna be like, it's so obvious, I know what you're talking about. I just, I just, I just, I rewind. Higirashi, right? Or some shit. That's right, yeah. We're talking about Higarashi. Yeah, how you guys willingly-
Starting point is 01:14:32 Oh, the actors. Oh, great pretender, that's it, the actors. I will, like, I would, I am gonna watch the remake of Higarashi in Japanese. Cause the reason I watched it in Dup because it was, like, you know, I'm gonna re-watch it in Japanese anyway. It's on Netflix.
Starting point is 01:14:46 I might as well watch it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought it was an okay time, honestly I was paying half attention after time. You know, because I was fucking doing arc night roles or something I don't fucking remember. I'm getting his priorities straight.
Starting point is 01:14:58 I watched an episode of Anahana again. Oh yeah? Kind of thought it was shit. I've watched all of Anahana. I was looking at you to be like, don't you fucking dare finish the sentence. Don't drop the S-Bomb. It's kind of shit.
Starting point is 01:15:13 I watched AnuHana like three years ago and I fucking bawled my eyes out, great time. I watched the episode one again. I'm like, wow, I stuck with this. It's just episode, nothing happens in episode one. Yeah, that's why it's shit. Episode one was by far, the worst episode of Anna Hannah.
Starting point is 01:15:28 And the episode of one of Anna Hana Hanna almost put me off of Anahana. Yeah. Cause I was like what- That makes it kind of shit, right? Yeah, because I thought when it, when it first started, I thought it was like some lolly fan service baits because I remember the scene where Menma sits on his lap and I'm like,
Starting point is 01:15:43 ah, here we go, fuck here we fucking go again. I'm just, I'm just, I was just like, ah, another, another lolly bait fan service show. And then, and then I think it was like, halfway through episode, like, or like the end of episode two or three, where I actually got emotionally invested. I remember episode one was like pretty bad.
Starting point is 01:16:03 Do you think if Anohana came out today, it would be given the same level of respect that it's given? I feel like, I don't think it would hold up today. I don't think so because at the time that Anahana came out, there were very few shows that went in that direction, I feel. Like, and especially with like how short the show was,
Starting point is 01:16:20 was all, like, it managed to do something in 12 episodes that a lot of anime struggled to do in like 20 plus. That's why I feel like it's kind of me. Now, if you go, watch it back. I don't think it- Okay, to be fair that you only watched episode one, right? Yeah. That's like- I didn't re-watch it all again. I watched just episode one again.
Starting point is 01:16:33 Well, then that's probably why you thought it was shit, because you watched the- but after I watched it, I was like, how the fuck did I make it to episode after I watched this? Because it was shit. Yeah, but that's the same as like every person who watches, like, the first episode of Steinsgate and it's like, why would I continue to watch it? Episode one of Steingate's good, right? I think.
Starting point is 01:16:48 I think it was, I don't know. I remember thinking- I'm like an Alzheimer's patient half the time. I don't fucking remember anything. Yeah, that's probably what. For some reason with anime, like, I do. Why do you, why did you start to rewatch it? Yeah. Because, who is it, Emily?
Starting point is 01:17:05 Emorychu told me, she thought it was shit. And I thought, no, it's good, right? It's good. So I went back and rewatched it. Yeah, but I guarantee Emily also only watched episode one was like, it's shit. No, she watched all of it, she said. Oh, well, then.
Starting point is 01:17:15 But she was just wrong. Come on to defend yourself, Emily. I've rewatched Anna Hana about like four times, I think. Four times? Yeah, yeah. What? I've only rewatched it once, and I thought, Bro, we'd have flying cars by now,
Starting point is 01:17:28 people stop re-watching anime this many times. Are you fucking kidding? Four times, why? Because I remember, I think Anna Hana was the very first anime that got me to cry. Because I remember back before, before I watched Anna Hana, I was like, stone-faced, I can never cry during anime. I'm a-old, I'm a real man.
Starting point is 01:17:48 And then like, I cried like a bitch the first time I watched Anna-Hanna. Oh, yeah, of course. And like, after I watched Anna-Hanna, it was so fucking long before I could, find like other shows that I could, you know, bring a tear to my eye, tried watching Clown ad, that just didn't fucking happen.
Starting point is 01:18:02 Like, it's so easy to make me cry, though. Like I feel like just the right beeps and boobs will make me cry, right? And right, you find one good Dauph Punk's name. You like, I love these beeps and boobs. Yeah, so like, the reason I rewatched it so many times was whenever I, like, I, whenever I felt like, I just need a, I just need a good cry right now.
Starting point is 01:18:20 Yeah, yeah. But so I would just put on Anna Hana just, just to like, just to get those emotions out. It takes you that much to get a cry out? Before I did. Can you not just like do it on command? No. Can you?
Starting point is 01:18:31 Okay, if I'm, oh, oh, I didn't know I put that there. Malyne's like, what? So, I gotta prepare myself. That's how I'm spilling tears already. That's how I do it on command. No, so if I feel like I need to cry, like, so you feel like you need to cry, right?
Starting point is 01:18:48 Yeah, yeah. So if I feel- I need that push. I need to like listen to that song or watch that anime. I pretty much, replicate what that guy did in the best cry ever video of like that, I basically like just sit there and I'm like,
Starting point is 01:19:02 hmm. And then once you get it started, it like goes, you know, for like 30 seconds. But does that feel the same as normal crying? Yeah, yeah, totally. You can watch a fucking KFC commercial and start crying. Dude, if I'm in the right mood, honestly, yeah. Like if there's like an emotional soundtrack to it,
Starting point is 01:19:19 like I can get it. Because the thing is, right, it's like wank. It's just a different type of wank, right? In my mind, like, they both feel the exact same when you've done it. Like, when you cry, it feels like a relief. When you wang- Have you ever cry wanked?
Starting point is 01:19:34 No. I don't dare try to mix the two. No, how easy it is for you. He hasn't read metamorphosis. Read metamorphosis, you'll know the definition of a cry wank. When you, okay, when you do that cry without a heart, do you not feel like when you stop crying,
Starting point is 01:19:52 you're like, ah. No, that's why I would put it on, because before that, I just couldn't cry. How long is that whole process take to make you cry though? Well, if you have to watch all of Arna Hanna, that's like, what?
Starting point is 01:20:04 How many episodes do you wanna watch for you start crying? I mean, so, okay, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, if we go and be on, just re-watching the entire thing, sometimes I would just like, if I needed a quick cry, like, if I needed like a five-steps, time steps, time steps. If I needed like a five minute wank or whatever
Starting point is 01:20:18 and like a cry wank, I would just put on the final episode. I'd be like, man, wait, did you just say you cry wank to the ending of my heart? No, no. Using the same analogy, if I needed that like quick set, like, skip the blow job, right? Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:20:33 Right, go right to penetration. Yeah, just straight into tears. You'd go, you'd go to like the fucking end of Anna Hana. If I needed like the full buildup or anything, if I had like a whole day to waste and I just felt, if I just felt emotional the entire day, if I just had a shit day and I just need to cry it out, I just rewatch Anna Hana and...
Starting point is 01:20:51 I was about to say, like, I can't imagine someone being like, fuck, I need to cry, or time to invest. six hours into this. Yeah, I just put like, you stay run on or something. And then like, I just start crying, man. I completely, I completely relate to the, if I need to cry, then like a good song will do that to me instantly.
Starting point is 01:21:10 Like, I know, I have like a list of songs. Right? Immediately I'm just like, I know if I put this song on, I know the exact timestamp as to where the tears will start coming out. Men should stop. Men should cry more. Yeah, yeah, I feel like men should cry more.
Starting point is 01:21:24 Like, once, once, I discovered Anna Hanna, I was like, I was on a fucking mission to find my next anime that could make him try. And it was, it was, it was because I don't know, I've always had like trouble crying or showing my emotions like publicly or whatever. No, I get you.
Starting point is 01:21:40 For some reason, like watching and like, the saddest thing could happen to me, IRL, right? Yeah, same. I just don't cry. I don't know why, like, like, for example, like, I fucking love my grandma, right? Yeah. And I, I, I thought,
Starting point is 01:21:55 I thought this entire time when I, you know, when she passed away and I went to her funeral, but I would shed some tears. I, for some reason, I just couldn't shed tears, even though I knew, I knew I cared about her, like, loved her as like family and like one of the person I, like, but that's the thing, like, you don't have to like,
Starting point is 01:22:12 show that emotion, express it, like, you know, outside to feel it, right? Yeah, but for some reason, watching, watching a good scene in an anime or watching that one anime, that just brings it out, that just, that just gets it out for me. I think it feels safe at home, right? Like you feel like, all right, I can be vulnerable, right?
Starting point is 01:22:29 I can do this here. Can you cry in front of other people though? Yeah. I'm watching, I can't. When I'm in a movie with someone, I doesn't matter who it is, if it's fucking sad, I'll be like, are you one of those people who like watches
Starting point is 01:22:41 like something really emotional on a plane that you can cry on a plane? I can cry on a plane. Yeah. I think I have cried on a plane. I'm like then, like, fucking you're a chicken. I'm fucking, because I'm definitely one of those people who are like, if I watch
Starting point is 01:22:55 because I watch Machia on a plane. And I fucking cry like a bitch, but I had to like really just fucking strain my eyes like I cannot show weakness to the person to see next thing. I think it's a subconscious thing for me. Because if there's other people around, like there are sometimes that I wanna cry. I wanna cry and they just, it just sometimes
Starting point is 01:23:10 when there's someone else there, I just lose like, for a split second, I lose the immersion and then I'm like, ah, I gotta build up myself like the tears have to build up again. Crying's hard for me, I don't know. Yeah, I get you. I value it whenever something
Starting point is 01:23:25 does make me cry, which is why I really value, for example, your name. Because that was the only time I've ever cried in a cinema with other people around me. But that was less because it was sad and more because it's like, there's just so many emotions right now, this is beautiful, that I just have to let it out somehow.
Starting point is 01:23:43 Oh, go, go, go, go. I was on a train and I was on the, I think, Yamanoi line or something. I was watching a video and it's actually about, like, in Japan they have like seminars, to make men cry. Oh yeah, yeah, so I saw that, yeah. And so I was watching this video
Starting point is 01:23:59 about like where they make, basically they just cry porn to a bunch of Japanese business men. And it was kinda like a game show almost in this video because it was like this one guy was just refusing to cry and then right at the final clip, like the sixth one, it's like a fucking tear as he's like,
Starting point is 01:24:14 like, holy, it's so funny. But as they were describing like this, this woman was describing what was in the clips to you. They didn't show you it, but just her describing it, I was fucking like tearing up on the yamato, I'm on my seat, like, fucking, so fucking sad. Like, I just, there's something like,
Starting point is 01:24:35 it was something like a kid's mom passes away and he's helping with his dad or son. I'm like, that's so fucking sad, holy fuck. I don't wanna go through that. Yeah. I don't know, man, it's like, I know there's nothing wrong with like crying in public. Yeah, I don't know, this is some-
Starting point is 01:24:50 Like full on, I'm just like shedding tears. Oh yeah, no, no, but even like shedding tears, like I have like, I don't know, I have some kind of restriction with it. I think it's just a subconscious mental block. I don't know, because I have exactly the same thing. And I wish, I wish I could like bring out my emotions more easily, but because it takes it, it takes me so many fucking steps
Starting point is 01:25:08 to get to get to that point. You know, that that's why. I don't give a fuck there. A lot of things, a lot of things in public. It's not about giving a fuck, like, I don't give a fuck. But there's, I don't know, something, something like, Do you give a fuck? No, I'm like, I'm like, in my head, I'm like,
Starting point is 01:25:24 Cry, cry, cry, cry, cry, cry. Now! And then something my brain's just like, nah, don't do it, don't do it. Yeah. Yeah, I guess there is like some, it's, you know, just mental block that even when you know, you should, it's like your brain is like, but don't.
Starting point is 01:25:38 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's just the way I was raised, I guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, so some things, sometimes you've realized, man, the way you were, how you're raised as a kid is pretty, pretty fucking important to you. Oh, yeah. Because it, like, affects how you're, like,
Starting point is 01:25:53 how you subconsciously think for like, yeah, the rest of your life. And it takes so much more effort to unlearn something. Yeah, there's been a lot of that. To like relearn to like learn something for the first time. Did you ever like catch yourself doing something
Starting point is 01:26:05 that your parents used to do to you when you were a kid, like the way they would talk or like, oh yeah, yeah. I remember like, oh, I think, what was it? Like my dad used to have this really specific way of making excuses up. And I caught myself doing it one time and I was like, fuck, I picked it up.
Starting point is 01:26:20 It's that moment where you're like, shit, I am my dad's kid. I'm like, fuck! I'm becoming the post. I thought I was superior this whole time, but I was just equal. That's the thing, right? It's like you listen to your dad,
Starting point is 01:26:32 like doing it all your life. Yeah. You listen to all your life, and then when you get to like your teens and you hear it, you make fun of them for it, being like, oh, look at this bullshit. I'm never gonna be like that. And then years later, you catch yourself doing,
Starting point is 01:26:43 you just like, oh no. Fuck. I was the same this entire time. Yeah, there's been a lot of like, always has been. I've had to like physically like, And mentally just be like, don't do this, don't do this thing, don't do this thing.
Starting point is 01:26:56 Because I thought they were like weird things, nothing bad, but like just little quirks that my parents would do that. I'm like, I don't want to do that. There's just like, this is the first time me saying it, but for some reason I've heard it before. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're like, fuck my parents too. They planted the seed.
Starting point is 01:27:14 But yeah, I mean, Anahana, I still love it to this day. Mid, mid. Okay, what's, okay. Okay, what's, okay. If that's the case, what anime would you recommend to someone to make them crying? What was the- Golden Time?
Starting point is 01:27:27 What is it? Golden Time? Is that the right name? Yeah, Golden Time. I always fucking call it something different by accident. Like Golden Week or some shit. I mean, to me, Golden Time is in the same category as Anahana for like-
Starting point is 01:27:39 There's a cult though. I like the cult. I'm kidding. I just found that whole cult arc really dumb and I really enjoyed how stupid that was. I can't even remember that one. That was like a part where she was like brainwashed and a cult of some shit that happened.
Starting point is 01:27:52 I think so. I don't know. Again, I'm basically an Alzheimer's patient in waiting, so I mean, I'm probably the wrong person. I definitely didn't get a cry boner, though, from watching Golden Time. What is another show that it's like really good cry porn in anime? It's the best cry porn anime.
Starting point is 01:28:10 I mean, anything by Shin Kai? Jin Maida, right? Yeah, anything by Middijun, anything by Shinkeye. I'm not one of those people who knows directors. Middijun is like, or Clanat Angel Beats, yeah, little busters. Anything by Key, studios basically. Yeah. It's like pretty good cry porn. I didn't find Angel Beets as sad as everyone else
Starting point is 01:28:27 because I felt like it was obvious it was gonna happen though. Yeah. I felt exactly the same where I, it was my same problem with Klanad just less stretched out where it was so obviously trying to make you cry. It was yeah, it's literally just cry porn where you just it was it was you're gonna cry. It was designed just to like make you cry and make you shed tears. Yeah but I have like an initial, like my cryburner is rock hard the moment I see my adjoon, you know what I mean? It's like, I don't even have to watch it and I'm already prepared, you know?
Starting point is 01:28:59 So I just Googled saddest anime. Okay, okay. Just saddest anime and Google it says, number one, I know, Hano. And then- Emily, even Google agrees. Plastic memories, which is, it was, yeah. Plastic memories is okay.
Starting point is 01:29:14 It was, you knew, okay, again. It was, it was just basically cancer with wifu's, basically. Yeah. That's what it was. It's like that I want to eat your pancreas, right? It's like, actually, I want to eat your pancreas is fucking big. I want to eat your pancreas, I fucking cry.
Starting point is 01:29:29 Angel Beets. Angel Beets. Mediotechia? I didn't cry at the end of Madoka Magica. I thought, okay, there's a difference between sad and bleak. Yeah. I feel like Modoka Magiqa is more on the bleak side. Yeah, is like grief crying.
Starting point is 01:29:44 There's this guilty crown here. Guilty crown? Why? I cried because of how bad. the ending was, if that's what they mean by that. It's, uh, Steins. Actually, you know what? I really like Guilty Crown.
Starting point is 01:29:55 I'm gonna say it. I like it, you know what? I like all of Grilty Cramm. Really? Yeah. You know what, Connor? I'm absolutely there with you. Yes!
Starting point is 01:30:04 The one fucking time, me and Connor agree. People need to stop comparing it to it as a shitty code kiosk is in its own world. I don't compare it to that. I don't compare it to code gas, but I still thought the ending was mid. It wasn't, it wasn't the best ending in the world. But man, it was a fucking good ride.
Starting point is 01:30:21 It was entertaining as fuck. Is it cry though? I think I probably did. I was actually this close to crying and that's, it wasn't because of the story, it was just because of how good, how no songs were. Yeah!
Starting point is 01:30:36 The beeps and the boots were so hype. Here's the thing. The thing about me in crying is that music has so much more power over me than what does. Yeah. That's, if there's a good soundtrack, I'm like almost, Always close to crime. Yeah, why do you think I cried to everything
Starting point is 01:30:51 Maida-June does? Yeah, it's because he makes the music as well, which makes me cry like a bitch. But like, I don't know, like, I liked, like, Guilty Cran had its like emotional moments and obviously, you know, the soundtrack was good, but like, I don't know, my, my, my, my, my cryburner was like a half child the entire time.
Starting point is 01:31:06 I was like. I really liked it. It's like, it was so close. Maybe it's because I haven't watched it in, like, four or five years, but I, maybe it's rose tinted glasses I'm looking through right now, but I remember I really fucking enjoyed it.
Starting point is 01:31:16 I really enjoyed it, not in the sense where, hey, I'm gonna recommend this as a good show. I really enjoyed it in the sense where it was just, here's a lot of dumb anime tropes that I enjoy. I'm not gonna, I don't care if they make any sense whether they put these anime tropes in, but it's just like a lot of good popcorn fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah, was what I remember.
Starting point is 01:31:37 That was a great show. Yeah, it's kind of reminds me, I remember when Darling and the Franks first aired, I called Darling in the Franks the Guilty Crown of this generation. And I kind of still agree with myself on that point where Darling and the Franks got stupid as fuck. Yeah. But it was entertainingly stupid, I would say.
Starting point is 01:31:53 Oh yeah, of course, of course. Yeah. I mean, the thing about Darling and Franks is that I went through a whole fucking emotional arc with it. Because it was the first half, I would say, was actually legitimately good. Did you watch it weekly, by the way? Yeah, I did watch it weekly.
Starting point is 01:32:06 So I really thought that Darling the Franks was a great character drama with Mex in it. And I was super, super, super emotionally invested in this as a series. And then the fucking space thing happens. And then it went. And then trigger was like, let me introduce myself. Yeah, exactly. And my enjoyment for Darling the Franks
Starting point is 01:32:24 kind of just shifted after that. I wasn't emotionally attached anymore. It wasn't that same kind of enjoyment. It was just the, look at all this shit happening. I think when you watch a show weekly, I think you're almost more likely to think it's better than it is
Starting point is 01:32:41 if it's like holding your attention. I disagree. I think watching something not having to wait and just marathoning something. I've enjoyed shows that I haven't enjoyed weekly that I've watched and that I've marathonsed. Really like what? Because I almost find that when you wait a week
Starting point is 01:32:59 for something that you're kind of excited for, you almost like hype yourself up for it and like think that it's better than it is. It's hard for me to say though because I haven't watched an anime weekly since like high school. Been watching ReZero Weekly and I think maybe there's an aspect of me
Starting point is 01:33:15 that thinks it's better because the mystery's being like drip fed because I'm having to wait a week. Right, but I think that only works because it's a mystery. I actually, yeah, I actually, ReZero is that exact show. I remember kind of like,
Starting point is 01:33:27 I remember enjoying it watching it weekly and I kind of only kept up with it because it was my job. And I remember rewatching it all at once after there was no pressure to like keep up at it or review. And I enjoyed it way more watching it all at once and not having to wait weekly,
Starting point is 01:33:41 even though I knew what was going to happen. And that's why I haven't like, I've kept up kind of with ReZero. season two, but I watch it in chunks. I'm not completely up to date with it yet. Because I wonder, because I watched a tech on Titan Season 3 part two. Is that the title? Yeah, that's the title.
Starting point is 01:33:56 Like I watched that weekly, yeah, the latest one. And I don't know if it's because like, I watched it weekly and every single week was like, oh my God, I have to wait a week. This is so hype. This is the best thing ever. But like, in my memory, season three part two was just fucking like God, God tier. But I marathoned it and it was still good. Is it still like that amazing?
Starting point is 01:34:16 even if like- I mean, I don't know how you're feeling about it. I feel like it's probably one of the best anime I've ever watched, if not like, it's like top two or three, man. I binge the entire thing in a day, so. It's fucking amazing. So I think-
Starting point is 01:34:29 I've already sung the praises of attacking a ton on this podcast, but yeah. I think, though, like, that's one of the few rare shows where it's like weekly or not, it's just objectively a fucking great show. You know, like the experience, I think, is just as powerful. It's, okay.
Starting point is 01:34:42 Spoiler alert, just for like one minute here. Whenever a video comes up I recommended of Levi versus the Beast Titan, I'm like, I've got time. I can watch it again. I've got time for three more minutes of that. All right, spoiler over. Yeah, no, I agree.
Starting point is 01:34:58 Well, we've somehow got onto good anime now. Let's go back to that anime, the worst anime ever. Oh, I don't know, what a, I mean, what's like a famous, like, what's like a show that is like, not universally praised, but it's like, not like Ghazi's wing or like Mars destruction where like, the only reason why it's known is because it's bad. I don't know because I here's a thing if there's a bad anime I'm likely not to watch it
Starting point is 01:35:22 or finish it right because okay here's his thing if something's as bad as Garzi's wing or something then I'm gonna finish it but I still think it's good because it gives me kind of some kind of entertainment value yeah what I don't like the worst thing an anime can do for me is just be boring it's be mid not gonna lie go to high school kind of shit kind of shit oh he said I'm gonna say it's kind of shit you mean you mean god of mid school I saw, when I made a tweet about Rent a Girlfriend, there was like three people who were like, yo, God of High School is the best anime of this season.
Starting point is 01:35:54 I'm like, what season are you watching? Watching God of High School just makes me so disappointed. I'm like the disappointed dad, because I look at some of these fight scenes. And I still think choreography and animation-wise, it's probably some of the best fight scenes you can find all year. So I can't think of a better anime.
Starting point is 01:36:12 I think we've said like, it's pretty shit. It's just disappointing because it was so popular. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't know. I've heard from a lot of Webtoons readers that it basically skipped through everything and just gave you the fights. That's not how to do it.
Starting point is 01:36:27 No, exactly. But I mean, it just gave me the feeling of just, I don't know, watching like a very good fight animation on, like, YouTube or something. Yeah, yeah. You have these fight scenes and it would have worked better being clipped and put onto YouTube with no context than it would have being in like a fight. That's what I watched, like, because I didn't actually watch the anime,
Starting point is 01:36:48 I just saw the clips on YouTube, and I'm like, oh, there's some cool fight scenes, but is it enough for me to get invested into the show, probably not. I watched like 10 episodes of Naroto, like last year. Why? Because I wanted to get into it. Like first season?
Starting point is 01:37:00 Yeah. Like as kids, Narito. Yeah, yeah, like the very, oh, okay. And that was horrible, because I was like, oh my God, even the story feels like filler. Yeah, that's why I never got into Naroto, dude. Yeah. And like, I'm watching this, and I'm 10 episodes in
Starting point is 01:37:14 and I'm like, nothing is happening. We've like left the village and we've done like, I've watched more opening and ending than I have like show development. And then they did that annoying shonen thing, which I think should be like, it should be illegal. You should be put in prison if you do it, where you put four minutes of the previous episode
Starting point is 01:37:31 at the start of the episodes after the intro. So it's only six minutes of like, like shit that you've already seen and don't need to see. In the industry we call that shunnen recap syndrome. Yeah, and then 14 minutes of the actual episode and then like seven minutes outro somehow, they've find a way because they drag it out. The last like six arcs of One Piece is that.
Starting point is 01:37:49 Yeah, that's, I was about to say, I don't know how there are still anime only watches of One Piece when that is, that was like literally every episode for, the past six years. Because I remember the last I watched of One Piece was the punk hazard arc and literally every fucking episode was like, here's an extended opening and then 10 minutes of filler, five minutes of actual content and then an extended ending.
Starting point is 01:38:10 It's because there's only one, they only adapt like one chapter for episodes sometimes. And you know, granted, the chance are dense as fuck. You compare the chapters today of One Piece to like some of the early chapters. And it's like, Oda added a like a light novel into his chapters in between these, like,
Starting point is 01:38:27 there's so much dialogue. And it's so small and it's so concentrated. But yeah, I mean, it still doesn't, it still doesn't add up to like one entire anime episode worth of content, in my opinion. No. So yeah, read the manga of One Piece. Yeah, which why should I gone?
Starting point is 01:38:43 It's too long gone. It's too fucking big. There's the worst argument I've ever heard. What do you mean? I don't wanna, it's like, why don't you get a degree Conner? It's only four years, come on, man. Why aren't you doing it? It's so good for you.
Starting point is 01:38:56 I got a degree and it was shit. Okay, but- Yeah, but if you enjoy the degree, then- Okay. What if there's this really good thing, right? Do you want it to like end quickly? No. Or do you want it to keep going on
Starting point is 01:39:08 for as long as possible? Because that's one piece, right? Like, you're talking about it like it's a commitment. If you're into one- It is a commitment. Like, you could say the same thing about Jojo. You know what I mean? I guess, yeah, but at least Jojo,
Starting point is 01:39:20 there's parts so you can like stop. Yeah, well, one piece, there's arcs. Like, I- Arks are different to parts though. I don't know, man, I stopped at the punk has an arc and I could easily go back to it. I wouldn't feel comfortable stopping mid-Arc. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:39:33 But that's the thing- Like, sorry, in between arcs. I wouldn't feel comfortable. No, no, no, but that's why I ended until the arc was over to like take a break. Yeah, but I wouldn't feel comfortable doing that. Why? Because it's the same show.
Starting point is 01:39:42 It's the same characters. They're still doing this adventure. I'm not finished. I can't just stop. It doesn't matter because you're gonna get Shonen Recap Syndrome at the beginning of the next one anyway. Oh my God. So it doesn't matter. It's just, I think the thing is, is because it's also daunting
Starting point is 01:39:55 for the fact that if I get into it, it's great that there's that much. But it's also terrifying that there's that much. But that's the thing, right? Like you're saying it in the pretense of like, oh, I'm probably not gonna enjoy One Piece, right? No, no, no, no, no. I'm saying, what's worrying is if I do enjoy ones. Right.
Starting point is 01:40:10 Because I'm not gonna get anything done for like five years. I'm gonna be there just fucking reading about how Luffy's arms are ripped off by stretch arms. Well, you're doing it with Jones already. I actually, like, I completely get what you're saying because I was having this thought experiment of if I wasn't already into One Piece. Would you get into it?
Starting point is 01:40:26 Could I convince, could future me or could like, no way would you? No way would you. Could like I convince an alternate universe of me who hasn't seen One Piece to now get into One Piece. And I'm like, that is so fucking difficult. I don't know how I would convince myself to get into One Piece, but, I mean,
Starting point is 01:40:42 my schedule was already pretty rammed with not reading manga. And the manga I do get to read is very small parts. And I wouldn't want to read something. Because I don't read several manga in one go. Right. I read one manga at a time. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:54 I read it all. I go on to the next. And I don't know why. My brain just can't. I don't really enjoy. Because I'm exactly same. I'm exactly the same as Connor when I'm into something. When I'm into something.
Starting point is 01:41:04 It has to be that. I am into something. No, I get that. I get that. I literally lost fucking two days of doing nothing because I caught up to rent a girlfriend. And that was just like my obsession for that two days. And if Renzi Gelfareem was like 500, 500 chapters, I would have just lost like.
Starting point is 01:41:19 Oh yeah, yeah. I dedicated like an entire month to just reading Barky. Like how many chapters of, like, one piece is there? Almost a thousand. Yeah. But like on the flip side, on the flip side,
Starting point is 01:41:29 I really value that because it's so like, part of me as like, part of me of like, has who is someone who has been an anime in Marga fan for so long, I kind of miss the feeling like you had as a kid where you're going just lose an entire week to just watching this anime. Because is it like, is it, am I, you guys are the same way,
Starting point is 01:41:49 it's like so hard for you to like marathon stuff now? Yeah, yeah, like, especially if it's like over 12 episodes. Yeah, it's really hard for me. I'm like, oh God. It's really hard for me to marathon something, but that's why when I'm like into a show and I'm like properly into it and I'm just losing days, I really fucking value that.
Starting point is 01:42:05 Yeah, and I search for it wherever I can, but it's so hard for me to find. Yeah. Even if there's like technically a good show, or a good series, which I can say, yeah, this is a good show. I felt really fucking good like when I finally marathon Demon Slayer
Starting point is 01:42:19 in like two days. Yeah. I was like, damn, I haven't felt this could. I actually finished a show that was more than 12 episodes. What the fuck? Yeah, I miss the fitting of just having fucking days and time pass.
Starting point is 01:42:29 Yeah. I was discussing what's what sucks to be a fucking adult. Damn, I just have like no fucking time. I have no time to marathon. What are like working all the time? What's up with that? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:39 But like, I will say that if you do want that feeling, just get into One Piece. I'm, 1,000 chapters doesn't sound that bad. Like I read all of Is Shield. There's more volumes of Jojo than there is One Piece. Is there more chapters of, oh, I guess there's technically more, yeah, I mean, I read five through seven of Jojo's in like, I think,
Starting point is 01:43:01 just over a week. Yeah. Yeah, oh yeah, then you could easily get from like the Alabaster Arc to like the mermaid. That was like a week of me sitting in my bed with a cup of tea nonstop just like, Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:14 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Well, that's the thing, right? It's like, if you get into it, then it won't really matter. Yeah, but that's the problem is that I'm gonna lose three weeks of my life, minimum. Yeah, but you're gonna enjoy those three weeks. You're gonna remember those three weeks of your life, and you're gonna look back. What will I have to show for it, go?
Starting point is 01:43:29 And then you'll finally be able to jump into a conversation about One Piece and being like, yeah, I think there was like an Xbox achievement, like, a real-life Xbox achievement where you can be like, I've read One Piece. And you can have like this badge that says you've read One Piece. And it's like something 10. Driving license being like all of one piece. You need something tangible to show for it for you to be able to invest yourself into it. It's what I'm hearing.
Starting point is 01:43:49 Yeah, I guess I'm, I don't really, how much free time do I have? It kind of varies, I guess, on the day. Cause like some, we're YouTube is right. So some days I'm working fucking all day nonstop. Some days I'm sitting there trying to think of a video idea and nothing happens and I just didn't do anything all day. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:07 Yeah. Played a game of league, maybe, I don't know. But like if I read something, it's so hard to see that as like a, I'm not the type of person who reads casually. It's like if I read, I need to like focus and decide that I'm gonna read and it be a long thing. I can't just be like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:44:21 I'll read a chapter for five minutes again. I can't do that either. There's people I know who can pick up a book, read two pages and be like, nice, that was good. I'm gonna do the rest. I'm like, what? Yeah. What, that's like getting a semi and being like, out of good wank.
Starting point is 01:44:33 That's great way. I need like a minimum of like five chapters to fully get myself in like the reading zone. And then once I'm in that zone, I'm like, okay, don't talk. I need to get in the zone. Yeah, exactly. It's like that sense of flow, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:44:47 It's, but we don't understand people who can like read a book and watch a movie at the same time. Yeah, I doesn't. Or like have the TV on in the background. I can't have it on the background. I don't pay attention to it. Oh yeah, I need complete silence to read. Oh yeah, that's because like every time
Starting point is 01:44:59 like Aki's story, she comes into you read it manga, you're like, what woman? And it's like there's no noise in the room. I'm like silence woman, I need my total piece to read this. He's holding like fat lolly asses volume one. Yeah. What is it woman? I can't you see I'm reading literature.
Starting point is 01:45:15 That's a holy asses. Make it a market, I don't know. That's an oxymoron, is it? It's like a color book. I just draw a coloring book. All right boys, I have a question. I want to know, is there any anime out there that you, you know, maybe have a hot take on,
Starting point is 01:45:31 like an anime that you think is either really good, an anime that you, like, that is highly praised and widely accepted to be amazing that you think isn't that good? Or is there a show that everyone thinks shit that you think is pretty good? Um, Jerry's already had his with fucking school days. Cause, you know, I really like the Cabo B-Beebop dub, but the show itself, like, I didn't think it was like that good. I'm gonna be honest. Like, I liked it. I liked it, but I didn't think it was like the masterpiece worthy. Like everyone says it's like. I hate that I can't disagree with you. Like it's like the dub. I prefered Samurai Champlain. Yes, yes, yes. Nah, no, you're going to both. I was about to say I have exactly the same in people.
Starting point is 01:46:12 just with Samurai Champa. No, Samurai Champa was a million times better. Like this, like I don't know what it was about Samurai Champlain, I thought the story, the style, the music was like amazing and the music gets amazing in Cowboy Bebop, but don't get me wrong. Yeah, but like the reasons why I liked Cowboy Bebop was, well, one, the dub and two, nothing to do with the story. I thought the story was kind of like, all right, okay.
Starting point is 01:46:32 I just, I just feel like Cowboy Bebop had some really interesting ideas because it's, it's kind of like, Cabo Bebop isn't like a long, like, it doesn't have like a very long, overarching story of, It's more of these individual ideas that, you know, that Watanabe wanted to explore. And I thought it had some really good ideas and so did Samurai Champlain, but I don't know,
Starting point is 01:46:52 something about Samurai Champlu just made me feel like the ideas just weren't as interesting on an individual level. Like, can you sit here and like say to me that Cowan Beop deserves to be like in the top five as it always is on every single group? Yes. Really? Really top five? Okay.
Starting point is 01:47:08 Like when I see it, like all time. Like when I see it, it's like those people who put Citizen Kane at number one on movies. It's like, yeah, I know movies. Citizen Kane's my favorite. I know the movies. Oh, yes, Rosebud, my favorite quote. It's like, when I see that on someone's like top five,
Starting point is 01:47:24 I immediately think they're like trying too hard to be a critic. Because to me, again, I don't think of anime in like a critical sense. I most of the time. I just thought when I watched it, I was like, it's really fucking cool. Tons of style. I just thought the story was kind of me.
Starting point is 01:47:38 Yeah, I mean, if you go into it for like a big story, then it's- Just as a show. Okay, so what about the Samurai Champlain story was good then? Okay, this has been a long time since I watched both. Yeah, same here, same here. But I don't know, I remember just really having
Starting point is 01:47:53 fucking a ton of fun every single episode of Samar Chambor Chambu. To me, to me the story and like character, like how much I enjoyed the story and the characters of both Samaranghampi and Cabo B, but were around equal. Yeah, it was everything else around the show, like the music, the soundtrack, like the effects, like the animation stuff, that made Samarine Chambu just that much better.
Starting point is 01:48:11 I did not give a fuck about the fucking annoying kid on Cowabeebok. I mean, I didn't give a fuck about food. For like, what were they trying to do again? Finding the samurai that smells like sunflowers. Like the plot doesn't matter in either fucking show. I just, I like the characters more in Samurai Champlain as well.
Starting point is 01:48:29 I agree, I agree. Like I thought because we had only three of them, it was like, we got a lot more time to like flesh it out. Whereas they just brought this fucking sidekick character and a dog and I'm like, why? I get to be fair, I love Iron though. Yeah. I ain't is great.
Starting point is 01:48:42 I mean is dope. Spike is like one of the coolest anime characters of all time. Jet. I think Mugan was cooler, to be honest with you. Just saying, I think Mugan was way cool than Spike. I think Spike is dope, but if I had to like say which one was cool, I'd definitely Mugan was cool.
Starting point is 01:48:57 Yeah, but Spike can meet, Spike can beat Mugan. Oh my God. My dad works for Microsoft. Would Spike be able to survive AIDS? My character can beat up your character. Have you thought about that? What's Muggen gonna do, swing a samurai sword. Mike, Spike can just fucking shoot him, man.
Starting point is 01:49:15 Mike. Mike, what's Mike? Mike Spiegel. Fuck, where's Mike? I mean, I don't know. I, like, I just- Cowboy Bebop, this has been one of those shows that I do think is great, but it's just,
Starting point is 01:49:29 whenever I see it in top fives, I'm like, you're just churning out of your ass, like. Yeah. Okay, like, I have a very similar opinion, not of Cowboy Bebop, but just. Evangelion? Akira. Akira. I think, I think you guys got a shout at me
Starting point is 01:49:43 and I said Evangelion now, sorry. I think Akira's mid as fuck. All right, you're dead to me. You are absolutely dead to me. I think, I think it's one of those things where it came out at the time and it was a game changer at the time. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:58 But I don't think now it holds up as well. No, it is still a game change to this day. I've rewatched it several times, trying to find what's about it was so amazing. And every time I rewatch it, I'm like, man, the animation still holds up. Yeah, it's great. It's just like, it's just, I don't know, it's just,
Starting point is 01:50:14 nothing much about it. You wanna share your thoughts on that? This is my last episode of trash day, so I'm leaving after this, I can't handle, okay. Okay, Akira, all right, Akira to me is like, I think to this day it still stands as one of the most unique cinematic experiences in anime. And I'm not just talking about that.
Starting point is 01:50:34 You're wrong. And I'm not just talking about that, I'll agree with that. I'll agree with that. And I'm not just talking about that in terms of like the flashy colors and the fantastic animation. It's like, oh, it looks pretty. Like, I'm not just talking about it like that, right? But like, I just, I don't know, like,
Starting point is 01:50:47 I've rewatched Akira so many fucking times. And every time I've rewatched it, especially like, you have to see it in a big screen as well, in my opinion. Like, I went to go see it, okay, because I went to go watch it. Obviously, I wasn't born when it came out in cinema. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:00 But, like, a couple of years ago, they did a re-screening of it in Sydney, in Australia. And for, I think it was like the 30th anniversary of the movie or something on the big screen and like I loved it on the TV like watching it in my room and shit was like fuck yeah but watching it in the cinemas was like holy shit like this is like an adventure like this is this is just like such an out-of-body experience with just the music is godlike the fucking voice acting is incredible like everything about that has
Starting point is 01:51:27 every every single element of that movie has a quality that can still stand to like modern anime cinema in my I agree with that and like and I think that's why it's just so incredible because you watch it and you forget, oh shit, this was made 30 fucking years ago. Yeah, but that's my point. I completely agree that it's an experience that can stand out in modern anime cinema. Right.
Starting point is 01:51:49 It's, but I'm saying it's definitely not as mind-blowing as it was back then. And- I don't know, man, I think it's still mind-boggling. Every time I'm re-watch it, I feel like I'm in the middle of this. I feel like I can agree with both. I'm not saying it's the best anime movie. No, no, of course, of course. But Jesus Christ, it's good.
Starting point is 01:52:04 Like, I could easily read, have you read the manga, that? I have not. I think it was part of why I didn't enjoy, because it just felt like, it just felt like it kind of just ended. It was, it didn't feel like a complete experience. Well, yeah. Well, does the manga continue after?
Starting point is 01:52:18 The manga's twice as long. Oh my. So the movie actually, the movie, the ending of the movie is completely original. Oh. Because Ultimo released the movie halfway into Akira's serialization. Because the first like three volumes were so popular
Starting point is 01:52:33 that they were like, we gotta make a movie of this. And they made it, but they were like, but I haven't finished the manga yet. what am I gonna do? Bro, I'm trying to finish it. So the movie's completely original and like the manga continues for another like four volumes after the point of the movie.
Starting point is 01:52:45 Okay. And it's insane. It's fucking insane. Like I highly recommend it. And I'm not just saying that it's like a super fan of Akira, I just think in terms of like, storytelling and just like, you know, I'm just throwing fucking key toms. Yeah, characters.
Starting point is 01:52:58 Character, storytelling development. Like honestly though, it's good shit. Well, how many more buzzwords can I throw in? Yeah, right? Like plot progression. Synergy. Synergy. My God.
Starting point is 01:53:09 Again, like, I don't think it's the greatest piece of, like, anime cinema out there, but like, I easily, it's one of those movies where I'm like, don't be fooled by the fact that it's 30 years old. Like, I still think, I can easily recommend it to new watches like. Yeah, you can definitely still watch it today
Starting point is 01:53:24 and not feel like it's dated. Yeah. Especially as like, as like, as like a, for me, like a visual experience and everything like, I just feel like, you know, it's, I don't know, it's, maybe it's because, like, cyberpunk has just kind of died recently. recently, I mean, for like the longest time until,
Starting point is 01:53:40 what recent cyberpunk anime have we got recently? Dora Hedora. Dora. Dora. Yeah, it's, I mean, seeing a world like that is a lot less, you know, seeing a world like that now is a lot less common than it was back then. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When cyberpunk was kind of in its prime. Oh yeah, 80s was like fucking,
Starting point is 01:53:58 so like you can still watch Akira and feel like, hey, this is something I can't already get today just because cyberpunk is just, is really rare to find out. Because to me, like Akira is like one of those movies, like those anime movies, where every single person I've asked who is clearly not an anime fan, and I asked them what anime have you watched or enjoyed.
Starting point is 01:54:18 99% of them will say, oh, I watched Akira and I thought it was fucking amazing. Yeah, it's just a good movie. It's just a really good movie. It almost defies anime in a sense, which is really weird because it is, because when you, which is really weird, which is really weird.
Starting point is 01:54:33 Wait, wait, wait, what do you mean? What does that mean? What does that mean? Like it goes beyond, like it has an enjoyment factor in it. I can't exactly like describe, I'm sure someone can explain a better than me, but there's something about Akira, the experience of watching Akira that you don't necessarily
Starting point is 01:54:49 even have to really like anime. No, I agree. I think, I think, yeah. Which is really weird because when you actually watch Akira, it is anime as fuck. Like everything about that is so anime. Yeah. And yet it somehow is almost not anime at the same time.
Starting point is 01:55:02 It's really hard. I don't know how to explain it. I can relate to what you're saying. To throw out my second hot take, I guess. I don't know if I've said this on the podcast before, but I think I've said it in other places, but I fucking hate Ghibli movies, man. I only liked like three.
Starting point is 01:55:19 I think I like one or two and even like. Which ones? Princess Monanoque and Naska. Do you like Howls Moving Castle? No. I really like How's Moving Castle. I really liked Howl's Moving Castle. And the reason I don't like Ghibli is
Starting point is 01:55:33 just because I don't like Disney. And I don't know, because Ghibli, like when I say a Ghibli movie, I'm like, this is an anime. Like this, this isn't anime, this is a fucking Disney movie. Can we also talk about how Haya Miyazaki's fucking asshole? Oh yeah, he's an absolute cunt. Did you see the clip of like him going to his son's premiere?
Starting point is 01:55:50 Oh, you gotta recommend that clip as well. Oh my, so this clip, right, you can search for it, but he goes to his son's premiere. Yeah. He's making a movie, right? He's a director. And he fucking walks out of the premiere halfway through, being like, he's not an adult, yeah. And I'm like, oh, he's fucking one of those dads.
Starting point is 01:56:07 Fuck. He's like, he's not an adult yet at like 30. Because I haven't deemed him worthy. It's like, get, get, shut the fuck up. Yeah, he goes up for like a cigarette and he's just like, yeah, this movie's trash. He could have done better. He hasn't, he hasn't grown up enough.
Starting point is 01:56:21 Yeah, and it's like, are you fucking kidding me? As if Miyazaki hasn't made shit movies himself, right? Like, not every, like, I love Jubilee, don't get me wrong, but have I enjoyed every single Jubilee movie? Absolutely not. I just, I just hate the kind of director who is like, everyone else is unimportant and my ideas are the best. And he seems, he gives off that vibe.
Starting point is 01:56:40 And as much as, you know, cultural icon for, you know, many parts. And you don't wanna be just an asshole. You don't wanna shit talking anyone for no reason. Yeah, because like- Every single time you see him in an interview or do anything, he just seems kind of like a cunt to be around. You would hate to be around him.
Starting point is 01:56:55 You can tell like he's such a close-minded dude because apparently the only movie that Haya Miyazaki has made that he himself cried to was the wind rises. And I can tell you that is the most mid-jibble movie I've ever watched. Is it? I heard good things about it. It's good, but compared to other jibli movies, it is mid as fine.
Starting point is 01:57:11 What are your favorite Jibli movies in? Princess Mononoke is easily my favorite. I mean, obviously I grew up watching Nauska and Totoro and stuff like that. Howells Mooncastle was really good. I thought Ponyo was okay. I was boring as far, man. I think Ponyo is very much the jibilee of the new generation.
Starting point is 01:57:27 Oh, sorry, the Totoro of the new generation. Totoro, oh my fucking God. I fell asleep during Totoro, man. I'm like, why am I watching a kid's show now? Okay, to be fair, why do you expect me to be fair, yes, Totoro is a kid's movie. That's why I don't recommend it to people. It's a kids movie.
Starting point is 01:57:42 Yeah, but so is Toy Story, but I can watch Toy Story. Toy Story though, Pixar has done a thing where they've managed to intermingle like very adult humor. But that's good kids, kids like media is great when it can be enjoyed by every, but Japanese media does not do that. It does sometimes though.
Starting point is 01:57:57 Not Ghibli though. Yeah, not Ghibli. What is it the fucking one with a pig flying a plane? Porcarosa. Oh, Porcarosa. I fucking had to turn it off 20 minutes in. I'm so fucking bored.
Starting point is 01:58:08 I enjoyed it, but I thought it was okay. Like it's not amazing, but I thought it was okay. That's basically my experience with a lot of Ghibli movies is that this is the most okay film experience I've had and I like, okay, the reason I really can't get into a lot of Ghibli movies is that they just don't feel anime. I don't know, I don't know,
Starting point is 01:58:27 because they feel like Disney movies, right? And I know Miyazaki's gone on record, like criticizing a lot of anime animators who are like, man, they're just like inspired by other people working in anime rather than inspired by real life. And I'm like, this is why I go into the medium dude. I like that.
Starting point is 01:58:45 It's the whole, I hate the Taku's thing, right? Why do you hate the thing that I like? I mean, as well, and also just on top of that, knowing that he's an asshole makes it so much worse for me to like try and enjoy it. Because I think you can make great shit without being a huge cunt. Like I'm, yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:59:01 I think maybe if you cure every single type of cancer, you know, in your lifetime, Go ahead, be an asshole. Like you probably, you get that pass. You know, it's that whole thing of like, you know, you should separate the creator from the creation. I disagree.
Starting point is 01:59:11 But sometimes it's really fucking hard not to do that. I mean, it's really hard. When a person markets their work so heavily is their work, right? Yeah. It's a Haumeozaki film. It's not a film, it's not a film, right? Yeah. So then it's like, well, he's kind of a cunt,
Starting point is 01:59:25 though. So it's kind of like, you know. Yeah, yeah, I agree. But I mean, sometimes it doesn't detract on like how good this specific work is, just because you enjoy doesn't mean, doesn't necessarily mean you, you know, you, I forgot the first thing of what I was saying.
Starting point is 01:59:41 But every time I enjoy the work, doesn't mean you can't, you have to like, like, I agree with that, but it's also like when you don't like the work, knowing the guy is kind of a, you know, yeah, of course, you're like, God, I fucking hate this. Yeah, but most people don't know that, right? When I turned off, Porcaroso halfway through, I was like, you're not an adult yet.
Starting point is 01:59:59 You haven't done it, you haven't done it. I walked out of my room. I had a cigarette. I had to walk up, the room, put my arm on the doorframe. It's not ready yet. He wasn't ready. It's weird though, because to me, like,
Starting point is 02:00:11 my favorite Miyazaki film isn't even a Jibli film. It's the fucking looping the third movie that he did. Like way before Ghibli, the Castle Kalea. That's so strong. But like, yeah, I don't know. It's, uh, it's great. I wonder, was he always like that? Or is that something that happens when everyone tells you
Starting point is 02:00:28 you've come down from God to bless us with animation? I'd say it's the latter. Yeah. He's also like fucking. 150 years old, she's retired like eight times. I'd like to think when I get old, I'll be the fun kind of old guy, the one who's like, yeah, I give a shit about what the young people are doing.
Starting point is 02:00:45 Instead of being like, I hate life. You say that now. Yeah, you say that now. That's like, that's what I hope. I hope. I doubt Haya Miyazaki in his 20s was like, I'm gonna grow up to be the absolute cunt. I will redact all my statements
Starting point is 02:00:58 if I see him hit the whip. You know what I mean? If Hymizaki comes out, hits the whip, I'll take, I'll take retract all my God. I doubt Miyazaki's just like browsing Twitter. To be like, oh man, they think I'm an asshole. I better change my ways, you know.
Starting point is 02:01:13 I think I'm an asshole. Fuck the haters. I don't care what he thinks, but I, you know, if he wants to see it and think, you know, whatever. But I mean, all I'm saying is that you don't have to be an asshole. Yeah, exactly. You could be humble. Did you really have to tell your son his movie was shit
Starting point is 02:01:28 in front of the cameras and go out of the, did you really have to have the cigarette? This really feels like a drive home kind of thing. Like a son, it wasn't that good, but don't worry, I wasn't gonna embarrass you from all the news outlets that were waiting for me. It's your son, for fuck sake, are you kidding me? That was the thing that broke you?
Starting point is 02:01:45 That was the thing where I'm like, oh, this is too much, right? That's, you purposely went out of your way to be a cunt to your son. Like, you could have waited till he got home in Texas and been like, son, it was right. That's the thing that, like, I watched the Haya Miyazaki documentary
Starting point is 02:01:59 that they did like years ago. And it was such an interesting documentary, right, because you get to learn about it life and like his thought process about everything. Yeah. But I don't recommend that like documentary to people, nor do I want to rewatch it. Because in the entire documentary, Hyomian is like he's just an absolute dick to the interview. Yeah, it's just kind of like... I'm just like, just answer the fucking question like a normal person.
Starting point is 02:02:19 Right, it's like when people are just making things difficult for the sake of it and then you have this whole, oh, I'm the best. I know everything. It's like, it's so frustrating to have to put up with that when it's like, did you have to be an asshole though? Why? Why do I be an asshole? Like, what did you gain from that? Did that make you feel big? Did you feel better? Like, just be nice. But like Stanley Kubrick had the same thing, right? Apparently Stanley Kubrick was absolutely dick.
Starting point is 02:02:41 Apparently directors in general tend to be. Well, like, when some of the most talented people and talented visionaries are probably some of the biggest dicks. I mean, especially with the director where it is literally like, you have to be like, put your foot down constantly. Yeah, yeah. I think it's a great YouTube video is like, are all directors dicks. It was on my recommended for like a million years.
Starting point is 02:03:01 I love that title. Are all directors dicks. It's actually really interesting. and go watch it. And he interviews a ton of directors asking them, you know, should you be a dick? Are you a dick? A lot of them would be like, yeah, I am,
Starting point is 02:03:11 because I have to put my foot down constantly and tell them no, you know, especially if you're working with some actors who are- I get being a dick on the job. Right. But like, when it's just like, you know. This is what I mean, like, yeah, you can be a dick on set to get what you need done.
Starting point is 02:03:23 Yeah. But did you have to go home and humiliate- to the interviewer? Yeah, humiliate the interviewer, humiliate your son. Do you have to do that? Like, that just, that really, like, I don't know what it was when I saw that,
Starting point is 02:03:33 Clip, it really fucking struck, like, and I was like, I didn't mind him being an asshole sometimes. I was like, all right, whatever, that's his thing. Everyone in the office gets it. But then when he did that, I'm like, that was just cruel. That was cruel. Yeah, I think what hit me about that clip was that he did that in front of cameras.
Starting point is 02:03:49 Cameras, you know what I mean? All the other people there. Because all the other old men came out afterwards. Like, it was good, wasn't it? Yeah. And he was like, no. And he just left. I remember there was a shot.
Starting point is 02:03:57 I'm just him going down the stairs, be like, I'm fucking. He dragged his wife out with him as well. And I'm like, oh my God. Yeah, you guys chill out, I'm fucking off back home now. Fucking hell. Yikes. Yeah, it's just kind of like one of those things
Starting point is 02:04:09 you're like, damn, bro. I don't wanna be like that. No, I don't think I have the, like, I don't think I could do that to my kid. Yeah, I couldn't do that either. That's like your son, like, making his first YouTube video and you just like pause and just walk out and have a sicker.
Starting point is 02:04:23 My parents did do that. They fucking- thumbnail game week. They pretended like they got it. I know they didn't, but I appreciated that they sat through it. Yeah, exactly, right? Yeah. I just have this image of like,
Starting point is 02:04:37 you seeing your son doing his first YouTube video and it's fucking like reaction video or something. I was like, son, I expected better from you. I expected more creativity from you. I didn't raise a fucking son for him to grow up to be a fucking reaction YouTuber. Which PC is in it? Yeah, I mean, it's just, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:04:58 It's like, it was, yeah, like I said, it struck a nerve. Fuck, I was gonna say something else. I was totally fucking personal that I was gonna add. Fuck. Bottom line, just don't be a dick. It was like, I read an article as well. Howie's actually openly said that he was just never there for his kids growing up.
Starting point is 02:05:12 I read that article, after that, after that video. Because of course he fucking was. Yeah, well that makes sense. Too busy making the movie. But then, I mean, that's when you wanna finally come through, right? It's your kid's movie, you finally wanna be like, son, I know I wasn't there for you, but God damn, you did me proud dad.
Starting point is 02:05:29 Could you imagine he probably spent his whole fucking life chasing that moment? Yeah. For that one moment where he just needed this dad to be like, You know what, kid, you did good. Yeah. I watched the movie. It was better than half the shit Mayazaki made.
Starting point is 02:05:40 I watched the movie out of pure spite. I don't even remember what it was called. I would have said it was the best movie ever. Tells the UFC. That's it. Oh, yeah, yeah, okay, I haven't seen it, but I heard it was really good. It's pretty bad.
Starting point is 02:05:51 Oh, really? Yeah. I actually don't know. Come on, come on, just say it's good. It's probably like university agreed as one of the worst movies Ghibli's ever made. Really? Like, I feel bad.
Starting point is 02:06:01 I feel bad, but man, you know, I feel bad, that Miyazaki just fucking shit talk to son. Cause like, no matter what, right? As a parent, you gotta- This could have been a snuff film and I would have sat through my kid's first movie, you know what I mean? Like, I'm sitting through that, like I have to.
Starting point is 02:06:18 No matter how bad it is, you gotta fucking have your kids back, you know? Yeah, I can understand. Like no parent, right, like goes up to their five-year-old, looks at their macaroni artwork and goes, that's shit. Yeah, fucking cease the macaroni art, lights up the cigarette. I expected better from you, son.
Starting point is 02:06:36 Son, I saw the other kid's macaroni on. It was much better than this, you know. They used the gluten-free shit. Okay, then have you ever had a show or series where you really, really enjoyed, and then something came, like you enjoyed before, and then you learned about the creator or the author, or whatever?
Starting point is 02:06:54 Yeah, absolutely. And has that, like, affected your view of the show at all? Absolutely. Fucking, when, what happened to fucking Ruroni Kenshin, right? Yeah. Or recently, act, happened. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:05 I was enjoying act date so much. I'm like, this is one of the most unique Shonen Jump experiences. And then that happened and I was like, well, fuck. And I kind of don't wanna read it anymore. And people wanna always be like, you should separate them, but it's so hard to do that when you really respect the work.
Starting point is 02:07:20 Especially with Ruroni Kenship, because like, this is coming from a massive Ruronic Kenyship. And I was like, I can't read it anymore. No, no, it's, it was one of my favorite shonen manga and anime growing up, and I still have the volumes in my shelf. and it's just like gathering dusk now. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:35 Because it's hard as well because you almost respect, because you respect the work so much that came from the mind and you almost respect like the thought process and the creativity. Yeah, yeah. From the person, right? It all came from a mind. I think what's disturbing is like what all these such amazing ideas
Starting point is 02:07:51 came out of the same head that was like, oh, I should, I should, you know, collect this not good stuff. Yeah, because like, re, like, I remember I was really into act age as well. And then after the news came out, You kind of looked at some of the plot points of act age where it's like, like, like, it makes you re-look at every, like,
Starting point is 02:08:10 an older guy grooming this 15 year old schoolgirl to become like a, one of the best actresses of all time. And you're like, it was cool without that knowledge to just think, hey, you know, maybe he's just trying to help her as like, as like an actress, you know, it was like a... But now you kind of see like the underlying reason as to why he chose that, right? Now there's just this underlying reason
Starting point is 02:08:29 that just makes you really uncomfortable. I mean, look, I can't shake the uncomfortable. Maybe that's a complete coincidence. We will never know. But just the fact that we can now make that correlation, it just makes it that much more uncomfortable. Exactly. And then you see people on Twitter who are like,
Starting point is 02:08:42 but it was it legal though? Like they're like, what doesn't matter if it's legal? It doesn't matter. Like I just don't wanna support a pedophile, really. Just seeing the fucking replies to the Twitter on that was just like, oh my God, I hate this world so much. Oh yeah, yeah. Because people clearly like the show who were like,
Starting point is 02:08:54 but but it was only one, right? It's like, it doesn't matter if it was only one. What do you mean if it's only one? One is more than zero. It was only one murder, Your Honor, I swear. Come on, give me a friend. It wasn't a serial killer, please, give me more credit than that. Yeah, no, I was so fucking disappointed than that.
Starting point is 02:09:15 And I'm like, why is it always the good shows? I wouldn't even care if it was like the mediocre shit. Gary's wing. Yeah, it's like, if it was like the fucking creator of Garzi's wing, right, then I'd be like, yeah, what the fuck ever, right? Like, I didn't even enjoy it to begin with. But why is it always the good shows that it happens? It's always like the most talented shit.
Starting point is 02:09:31 It's a shame. It's a shame. It's a shame. Stop it. But you know what's not fucked up? Oh, beautiful patrons. Hey, I love these guys. The worst segue ever.
Starting point is 02:09:40 I'm sorry. Did you really just segue into, at least our patrons aren't pedophiles, right? Thank you, patrons. I don't know what you're doing your free time, but please don't do bad things, because that would be really sad. I just love the way you just said,
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Starting point is 02:10:24 Thank you for your patron. It's nearly 5 p.m. for us. We need to watch League of Legends world. We as in they. Yeah, I think it's about, it would be ended by the time this is. No, it's close to ending. Probably, yes.
Starting point is 02:10:35 It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Yeah, I'll see you. You're a wonderful host, Connor. And I've been back. You're welcome for us finally talking about anime. I know it's like a once in a blue moon kind of kind of episode now.
Starting point is 02:10:47 Remember we're still an anime pod. I don't learn my stuff out if I talk about too much anime, man. I don't watch that much. I'm gonna run out of stuff. So I hope you guys enjoy that. Yeah. Bye. Bye.

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