Trash Taste Podcast - Sitting Down With the Angel of Shibuya (ft. @Robcdee) | Trash Taste #324

Episode Date: September 4, 2026

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Hello and welcome to another episode of Trash Taste. I'm your host for today, Garn, joining me once again, other boys, and we have a special guest today. Do you want to introduce yourself to the camera, and who are you? Hi, guys. We've never seen you before. Hi, guys, I'm Rob C.D. I'm a streamer here in Japan, and I have the unfortunate pleasure of knowing these lovely gentlemen. You're so much more than that, Rob.

Let's talk about the angel of shit. Wait, wait, wait, wait. I just had to fish you off. I know you hate it. I had to like double check if you'd ever been a guest on here because it felt like you already have. And I was like, wait, Rob's never been a guest. Even though we got them on.

Yeah. Listen, finally, finally I convinced these lads. I said, listen, I'll do anything. Just let me be on the show at least one. Please. I need this. I need this. No, but I'm pleasure to be here.

I'm glad to be here. Thanks for having me on. Hell yeah. Yeah. It's going to be fun. I mean, it's weird having you on because we normally get to hang out every, you know, every often. I mean, you guys go swimming every week now, right? We swim every week. We swim together.

It's a secret. Nobody knows I swim, though. Really? Yeah. What's wrong with that? Why are you trying to hide it, right? It's with you. You didn't want to be associated.

I get it. I get it. Yeah, we swim. You know, I was like we, I got to, I need like a weekly thing. I need to feel normal because streaming makes you and YouTube makes you feel not normal. Yeah. How so? Because it's like,

nothing in my life is like normal. Fair enough. You know, I think it may, because you were like, all you're doing is like, you know, I feel you're pretty understand as well.

You know, you go live, you just do the thing and then you're like, clock out, so to say, and then you're like, what a weird,

what a weird job. And I was like, I just want to like do something because, you know, I, you know, when I, you're growing up, you're like,

I'd go weekly sports with my friends. And we'd catch up and talk about whatever. Shit, that was never me, man. No. Weekly sports with your friends?

No, this is like, I stopped. In school. Oh, in school. But then also, like, obviously in the UK, it's like super normal. You play five a side or something. Or you have a footy night with your boys or whatever. And I was like, you know, I should. And also, truthfully, I was like, I have too many activities that rely on drinking.

You didn't balance it out. I was like, I need to, like, introduce things that don't require drinking to hang out with the boys. Yeah. So it was like, let's just fucking go swimming. I used to go swimming all the time in Australia. We had this, for some reason, these government-sponsored gyms and the sticks where I lived, all of Australia is the sticks, basically. But I get super nice pool with the ocean view.

I could swim. Yeah, I could swim there, like my own lane. It was really nice. And I loved that. And so when this idea to come swimming once a week was introduced, I was like, yeah, that's right. That sounds good. I remember those good times.

It's not like that. Is it a moment where you're like that? like, I swear I was better when I was younger. Yeah, right. 20 years ago, you know? 20 years ago. Yeah, I stood. But so people in Japan take the hobbies like super seriously, right?

Yeah. And so if you do something, it's in a little bit niche, not that swings that niche, but like people go hard. It becomes their personality. You don't choose like a casual thing. It's like, what do you do outside of work? Yeah. Yeah. You know, that is like everything.

It's like go hard or go home, basically. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Were you like a sporty kid in? school or were you? Was I? Yeah, were you? Were you? I was an esporty kid. But I actually tried to go pro and StarCraft. Are you serious? Really? I was actually pretty good. Yeah. I was GM. Grandmaster. That's the highest. Who did you play us? I was Zirk. I had no self respect. I faced some good people on the ladder and yeah, it was good fun. But anyway, I made, Wait, technically I was a pro because I made about $16 through coaching.

If you made any money, technically your pro. That is technically a professional. So that's what I'm what I'm talking about today. How many years did you dedicate to the StarCraft? Well, I told my dad, I was like, listen, working this full-time job, it's like, it's okay, but I don't really want to do it. I want to be a StarCraft pro. Either that or a 4X trader. That was their choice I gave him.

Options. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he was like, get out of my house. Honestly, I think the StarCraft Pro would be less self-destructive. And he said that. He said, I'd rather you try to be a StarCraft pro than like a 4X trader. Right. So I tried that for a while.

There was those moments when your parents are like, son, that's not you. You're not him. you know, like, but I'm getting out of Silver League soon, ma. But, uh, obviously you're not a StarCraft. No, but that was the start of my streaming career.

Yeah. So, obviously, you know, obviously because you're the first time on the show, we have to talk a little bit about, you know, what you do?

What you do? What are you known for? How did you get into this? Okay, so, so like I said, I was kind of a stream of way back when when I played StarCraft, but that's how I got introduced to Twitch.

I learned about like, Team Liquid back then would host the StarCraft streaming, all the OGs. And then I was introduced to GDQ back then when it was like a group of nerds in a basement on a couch. It was like 10. Yeah. And they're like, I'll just frame perfect this. And people were like, yeah, when it was good, you know.

And so I got in Twitch then, I saw stuff like that. And I watched like a lot of OG people playing hearthstone. back then. And there was a particular streamer who played a lot of Harthstone and he also started IRL kind of by playing Pokemon Go or something back, way, way, way back when.

That would be like 10 years ago now. Yeah, yeah. 2016. Yeah. So he was on his way to Japan for a trip here, not really to stream just for holiday, but he did stream a little bit. You probably heard the guy called Recful.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And he was streaming around in Japan, in Tokyo, and at that time, I was just watching casually. I followed him because he played in Hurstown and in the tournament. And he was wandering randomly around Shinjuku without any idea of where to go or what to do or any places around. And it was actually on my commute home. So I was like, I'll just like point him in the right direction and then be on my way. So I stopped by, I got off the train, I found him, I was like, you're in the business area.

Like, what are you doing? Let me show you at least where some restaurants are. Yeah. He was like, why don't you come along? And so I did and we hung out a bit. We went to a couple of restaurants and it was a lot of fun, some of his cars and stuff. And after that, I was like, oh, this is, you can stream this? You can, like, people watch this?

You don't have to be in your room? Yeah. And so I didn't, I didn't. take it seriously after that at all. We became friends and, um, you know, like he would visit Japan, we'd hang out and stuff like that. Yeah. And then after a while, I was like, oh, I was like talking to him. I said, you know, it seems like a fun hobby. He's like, yeah, you should go for it. You know, you should try it. And so I did it. I tried. And I did, I stream for about, like, as a hobby, just on and off for, for maybe a year and a half. And then I was like, this is better than

a working a job. What, what job were you working at the time? So at the time, I was recruiting. Oh, my guy's sick, recruiting. Scumpt here over the earth. For context, recruiting is like, when you're in Japan, it's like, there's like three main jobs you hear about from people who live here. Yes. Teaching, tech now.

Yes. Recruiting too. That's right. And it's a big one. So I started English teaching and I was like, I want to eat more than discount onigiri from the supermarket every day. Right. So then I went to recruiting it.

After that, I did a bit of tech, but at the time, I was... Well, you covered all three bases. I'm like the quintessential gauges. I know no Japanese. So what made you want to move to Japan originally? Okay, so my brother moved to China, and I was like, oh, that seems pretty cool, but China is scary. So I decided I could do a year in Japan.

I'll do a working holiday here. And then it just turned out to be way more convenient than living in Australia. Like there's stuff you could do. You didn't have to drive for three hours to meet someone. And so I really liked it. I extended it in Australia. We get 18 months total for working holiday. And then I was like, yeah, let's try to make a shot of it,

like full time living here. And I just like I think a lot of people actually do that. They come over here with an intention to stay like a year. Yeah. And then they just fall in love with it basically. It couldn't be us. I feel like all my Australian mates who live here now, It's the exact same thing.

It's like working holiday, just suss it out. And then they're like, wait, this is so much better. Let's try and get a visa. Don't get me wrong. I like Australia. I think it's got a lot of good points. But man, we even tried moving back for a year. It's just like you miss a lot of things.

Like a lot of convenient things here and ways of life. You don't get shamed for eating out at a restaurant alone, for instance. How often do you get to go back? So it's usually about once a year. And I'll try to tidy. with like dream hack or something like that. Oh yeah, yeah. Dreamhack's a lot of fun.

Yeah. We all try to tie it into, you know, traveling is stressful. It's nice if you can kind of get something else going on too. Yeah. But it's, it is nice to go back. I get a bit of reverse culture shock.

I don't know if you need to have. Yeah, yeah. I've definitely out of that. There's so many white people. They're so unpredictable. We're all the Asians. So you decided you're gonna live here, you're working and you start streaming.

Yes. Yeah. And then, you know, how does that go? Well, to be honest, we actually moved back to Australia for a year. And I was like, before I get a full-time job in Australia, I'm going to try streaming, right? And I went all the way from my hobby streaming of 80 viewers, all the way, and I skyrocketed back in Australia, streaming nearly full-time, all the way to 30 viewers. Oh, damn, big numbers. It went from 80 down to 30 after a year. And I was like, hmm. And then I spoke to my wife. I said, listen, I want to try this.

How about I go back to Japan for a month to see how it goes? If the numbers are good, then YOLO, right? Yeah. And so I did that. And in September of 2018, I want to say, or 19, anyway, a bunch of years ago, I tried it for a month. It worked pretty well. I think the timing was good.

And fortunately, it looked good. So we decided to make the jump back to a Japan. And then I started RL streaming in 2019. Hooray. And honestly, probably, you see. That sounds so weird. Bro, listen. Okay, I've got a few opinions of IRL streaming.

But I mean, the timing worked out well, right? Because, like, you know, not long after that, but yeah, pandemic happened. No one's allowed in Japan. No one's allowed in Japan. I mean, you know, we banked off of that too with this show as well. Okay, good, good.

How was it IRL streaming during COVID? Because we were just staying inside, you know, so we had no issues. Well, okay, so there was no lockdown in Japan. You can still go outside. Restaurants closed by 8 p.m., which is fine. Yeah. And no drinking alcohol.

Yeah, well, please don't drink alcohol. And there's a there's a ramen shop that dissipate all of that. There's a one random ramen shop. There's a Yaku Nakeakey place where you go to. And during it, it was like when 8 p.m. hit, it was like they didn't accept card anymore. Really? And they're off the books. But just, you know, just pay with cards.

Just be quiet. Anyway, so what I would do was I would just basically find a route to cycle and then go out and then come back. and then like build a gumpler in my room for a while. And, you know, because everywhere, like Australia, you couldn't go like more than three kilometers from your house or something like that. Most places you couldn't even go outside, right? Yeah.

People were like, not only was it like, whoa, this is what the outside looks like, you know? And also, nobody could come to Japan. So if you want to be successful streaming, all you need is a global pandemic. That's the secret to success. I mean, it did help so much. It did help a lot of people and it did help us as well.

And it's not only that, but it's also like just the fascination towards Japan from people overseas also. Yeah, yeah. So like all of us here, we got it even probably more so than other countries. Yeah, yeah. It was like the perfect storm, right? Like nobody could come to Japan. Everyone was consuming way more online content.

Yeah. And I could still go outside. Yeah. Is that how, because you're known for cycling a lot in your IRA streams. Is that where the cycling phase, started? Yeah, I guess so. I mean, always before I was a streamer, I would cycle anyway because I had no money for the train being an English teacher. So I was like, I can save a dollar by cycling for two hours. And it turns out you can actually travel faster, generally speaking, for a normal

distance by bike anyway. So that was the only thing I really did that I kept doing as part of the stream in my normal life. So it kind of became a thing. And I didn't, like, I didn't do a cyclone until a little bit later than that, but, yeah, it was kind of my bread and butter, if you were. Yeah, because I'm always sweating whenever Conner does a cyclathon, and I'm like, am I coming before or after, Rob? Why? Because I'm, like, struggling just to like get this.

I'm like, if I'm coming after, we're going to go from, like, the fitter cycler in, like, our friend group to just like me struggling up, like, some random hill. Yeah, Ross just like, 80,000. Easy. I saw the clip of the Lay Ciclathon where you just passed Connor and Chris on the hill and you came back down to pass them again. And I'm like, I'm so glad this was after. Listen, it was, I had to wait so many times.

It was so bored now. I'm kidding. That was a little dono goal. But if it makes you feel better, after getting on the bike from you, I have to lower the seat like so far. Like, where's the kid's bike? You forgot my bike. But it's fun. And it's a cool way to see around, I think.

Yeah. And streaming. I often like, okay, one question I always had is you IRL stream almost every day. Right. Do you ever run out of places to go? Dude. No, okay, listen, this is a good question. And people ask it a lot.

So I think probably in the whole world, there's like maybe three cities that you could full-time IRL stream. New York, maybe London or Seoul and Tokyo because there's just so much going on to be honest I, so I have a discord like most people do and I have a suggestion box channel where people who are interested in something

or see something they think might be cool will put it in I say no to more than half of that because I don't have the time to see all the stuff and also someone's kind of lame but yeah it's just funny because you always every week he'll come to me and you'll be like, I'm going to some cheese fermenting festival.

Yeah. And I'm like, what the fuck are you? I'm like, where is you? Like, not even in Tokyo. I'm like, what? What are you doing this? This is a good timing actually because I've been to a few pop-ups. And this is one of the cool things about IRL. You get to see so many different things. Yeah. I actually brought some gifts. Oh, okay. Hell yeah.

Thank you. And I kind of tried to see if I could know you guys. Well, guess what you guys might like. Okay, okay. Yeah, this is for Joey. Okay. You are recently, uh...

Oh, yo, the Tujiji stuff. Yeah. Oh, dude, that's so sick. Recently he had a pop-up. I think he's still going, actually. And do you know Hakaba in the Nakano Broadway? Yes, yeah. Yeah.

Funnily enough, I became friends with the staff there through like a few and stuff like that, but, yeah, this, I thought this stuff was really cool. You know me because I love bucket hats. Oh, that's a wrap. Yeah. Oh, that's awesome. That's awesome. shit, yeah. And I thought the deck of cards, like each one is so, like the art is so sick on each one.

Yeah. And then there's like a little pouch kind of thing. Oh, with candy inside of it. Yeah. Hell yeah, thanks for all. Yeah, that's awesome. For God. So this was full disclosure.

This was a pop-up that I didn't go to, but I learned about. And so I went back and found the product somewhere else. But it was the, they were selling. Oh, fuck yeah. I don't know if you've had this, but this is like, from Osaka. Oh, thank. I have not had this one before.

Minor. Oh, hell yeah. I mean, I'm never gonna be disappointed with craft beer. Wow. And you got a sick bag with this as well? So this, they were like, yeah, this was for Father's Day for some reason. Oh. Congrats, I guess.

Thank you, thank you. The father giving it actually. Yeah. And this, Ocana, have you heard about this place? What is this? have known. Royal Pepper. This is the most boozy, fancy, most expensive pepper you've ever seen. It's insane. What? Why does it come like this? Whoa, what the hell? Yeah.

Can I open it? It's like a high brand. Oh, it's like actual pepper. You know I love pepper. How did you know I love pepper so much? I did, I predicted this question. Who told you I love pepper so much? Every time we eat dinner, he's bloody, oh, give me the pepper. He's like orgasming over the crack, but he's like, we eat more pepper. That's awesome.

That's cool. Yeah, they never give you enough pepper in Japan because they're scared of seasoning. Yeah, but, wow, that's crazy. Yeah, what a thoughtful gift. This is crazy. Yeah, thanks so much, man. No, that's all right. That's so cool.

This is one of the cool things about IRL streaming in Tokyo because you get to see so many things. And I get the chance to buy lots of trash from my friends. Sometimes it's not. Like the wise men showing up. Yeah. all three and one. The murder. Sometimes you get it on.

Sometimes you get it. No, that's all right. Yeah, that's so cool. Thank you, man. That's very kind. That's very kind. It's fun. I mean, that's amazing.

I don't leave my house enough, so I don't like, and it's like gift giving time, like scrolling Amazon. And it's just like, it's so unhelpful. You need to see stuff. Well, I mean, and that's the thing like,

because I see so many different things, like I start to remember people and what they talk about. in the past and sometimes I send a photo of something random. Yeah, that's right. So it's good. Perfect gift given, man. Thank you so much.

My pleasure. That's how I bribed them to get on the show. So, like, out of, like, all, like, the different events and things you get to see, what are, like, something that, like, have really stood out to you over the years? Jeez, what a big question. So, okay, my favorite thing of all, it's not really an event, but I guess it kind of is. But when you become a regular place and you get to know the people, then people will start to invite you to their kind of community.

Oh, yeah, yeah. So I've had the chance to do, I don't even know what it's called, machi pounding. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, in somewhere kind of out of the central Tokyo. And I've done like Nagasi So, man, which is, you have to catch the, you catch the sawman, the sober, is it sober?

No, it's sawman. So it's like they take, they take like a big bamboo thing, chop it in half, and you know, because it's hollowed out. Yeah. So what they do is they set it up on like a kind of a hill like this, or an incline, and they pour water down there. And then you have to try and catch the sawman as it's traveling down this river. Got horror fucking flashbacks.

I used to do this as a kid. Yeah. So I've been invited to do stuff like this with people. and these kind of events I love because you make friends and then it it kind of leads to some random situations sometimes like the last time I went to Nagasi Somen was in Nisiyogi Kubo and I ended up in some random guy's house when his family was playing instruments to entertain me it was so okay that's a different story but but those kind of things is like what makes IRL string fun and doing this kind of thing is, you know, I feel like, I feel like it's not just a transactional relationship at that point.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. A little bit more, um, lots of friendship. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When you have, like, people who you see in your, you know, you're always. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's, it's the thing. Like, I think I'm lucky enough to, you know, do some of the stuff on the Trash Day specials that have given me the opportunity to do stuff that I never would normally do. Yeah. Outside of like, if, you know, if I had the opportunity with my jobs do that.

Yeah. I'm sure if you are IRL, if you want IRL streaming, it's, I don't know, you might not have gotten these opportunities to kind of like grow out your comfort zone. And not only IRL streaming, because a lot of people do that, but because I'm based and I've chosen to only really stay in Tokyo, so it's the, it's more than just like seeing this cool thing or going to this event.

It's like the ongoing storyline of, you get to know someone, you find a cool guy, get to know someone, when you become friends with them and then they introduce to another place and then they invite into their house to watch their kids play instruments, you know? It's the logical steps. It's the community aspect as well.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. And I think it's what people like watching as well, you know. Yeah. Yeah, because it's wholesome and, you know, they get to see a side of Japan that is a little bit maybe harder to get a glimpse of. Yeah. You know, if you're not directly involved

with that kind of stuff, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. How often did you get to travel outside of Tokyo then for some of your streams? Yeah. I mean, I've done some events like I did a $100 challenge in Taiwan. A hundred dollar challenge?

Where I tried to spend seven days in seven different cities for $100. Oh, geez. The idea was, because that's not much money, right? Yeah. And you're not going to get very far. So you'd have to interact with people to kind of get you through. And I had some rules like no begging, no telling people I was. you know, poor or whatever. No snipers helping. And the idea was to talk to people and

see if they would be okay with me like crashing on their couch or whatever. Yeah. One caveat I did have was I was allowed to buy people drinks that that didn't come into the into the equation. So I went to Taiwan and I had no money. I had nowhere to stay. And so I went to a bar and I was buying everyone drinks and they were like buying me drinks in return, which is kind of, I guess, guess the sheet. But anyway, after a while, I was like, man, I'm so tired and drunk. And the bartender was like, where are you staying tonight? I was like, I don't have a place. He's like, we have couches upstairs, you know? I was like, yay. Time to do that. And so I crashed upstairs. I had way too much to drink. I used his precious rugby blanket, is a South African guy,

as a cover, doing a cover. And I got up like four times in the night because I had to vomit because I was so drawing. And so I was like, what the hell is my life, you know? And then the next day when I'm hung over, he's like, oh, I saw you use my priceless jersey rug as a blanket. Good thing you didn't vomit on it. He had a priceless. Perhaps shouldn't have left him. Yeah, right? But he was cool. And so after that, I had, I, like, hitchhiked my way around. Yeah. And I got down to the bottom part of Taiwan. I was trying to, I was running out of money. I, I, I, got supermarket bread for the last three days because I had no money. And I was trying to get to the last spot. And I was hitchike on the side of the road. And a guy pulls up, he's like, I'm a policeman.

And I was like, where are you going? I was like, I'm going to this town. He's like, I'll give you a lift. I was like, really? Am I going to the jail? Or he's like, no, no, no. My girlfriend lives down there. I'll take you along. I'm going there anyway. Right. And so I get in the car. He introduces himself. he shows me his badge and stuff like that. And he drive down. Because he's kind of interested and I was like, why did you pick up a hitchhiker? He's like, I just watched a YouTube video

of people picking up hitchhikers. I wanted to try it out. I was like, well, you're welcome, I guess. Lucky. But we, so from that, we exchanged context. And I messaged him because I planned to do a trip, a cycling trip around Taiwan, which I incredibly highly read.

recommend, by the way. They've got incredible roads. Anyway, so I messaged him saying I was going to come back. And he's like, oh, I just bought a bike because I saw you cycling a bunch on your Twitch stream. So I bought a bike. And I was like, yeah, cool. I'll be around your area soon. Yeah. And he's like, can I join you for a day? And so I was like, yeah, sure. And so we went cycling together, me and this policeman that I met who picked me up from a hitchhiker. sick. And he's planning to come to Japan soon, but he's got a dog, so he can't do it right now, he said. So anyway, but that kind of, you know, a fun event is so fun. Yeah. How many, how many other cities did you do this for? Was it just, was it just one city? You mean in Taiwan?

No, no, in terms like the, you said the $100 challenge. Oh, yeah, it was $100 for seven different cities. Right. And so that, that $100 was for the whole, the whole trip. Yeah. So I was like $6 hostel. It was, $1,000. It was, $100 for seven. It was, I got terribly... A $6 hostel? The worst tinnier of my life. It was so nasty. That's a wacky weekends video.

Yeah. It was so bad. Jesus. I haven't had many good night sleeps in hostels. No. It's pretty hot, no. The only air conditioning they had was like the fan in the room and the guy's foot hanging down over the bed and the front of your face.

Yeah, no, that was nothing. I do have to bring it up. The angel of Shibuya thing, some people know you as. You've got to explain it because I don't know if you guys know this. I only know what by name. I don't know the context. I've been on enough IRL streams. This story gets told like every single time.

Well, you know, maybe you can quickly explain it because that's like how, I guess, at one point a lot of people found you. Yeah, to be honest, so just before this, I want to say, before moving back to Japan, I set myself some really serious metrics about if streaming doesn't go well, I'll leave Japan and go back and find a normal job, a real job in Australia.

And if it wasn't for that incident, there's a chance I might not have kept going streaming. Oh, sure. That's how impactful it was. Yeah. Damn. Well, what are the type of the angel of Shibuya? Like, I think, not to play it. I just want to see because I think it has like an insane amount of views.

That's angle of Shibuya. Yeah. Okay. I think it's that one. You just click it. Not, that's not, it's the, it's the Amiga Loll one. That was the guy's one. So how many uses they have just so I can kind of, I know it's a crazy amount.

11 million. 11 million views. You can pause it. Yeah. Yeah, there's just, I mean, that's it. Look how thin I was back then. Hey, when I see me five years ago, too, I, look. So this video is uploaded, right?

And that was around the time when you're trying to decide? Yeah, well, actually, that video came a little bit after. But so the origin story of that video was, I was doing, I was eating a kebab in Shibuya. That was what I was, as you do. Yeah. It was like one. or 2 a.m. and a random passerby walked up to me and said, hi, it's my friend. And I was like, what? And I noticed she was with a guy who was kind of like talking to her, talking to him. And she

was trying to get away from him. So if you don't know about Nampa in Japan, it can get pretty aggressive sometimes. And so this girl was getting hit on. And she was trying to find it out. And she said, I'm just here to meet my friend, which was me. And I, you know, I didn't know it at all. Yeah. And so I was like, hey, friend. Good to see you again. It's you. And, and then the guy was like, the guy hitting on her was like, oh, hey, hi, hey, how's Australia? And anyway, he left after a while, but she was really grateful for that. And I was planning to go to Friends Bar anyway. So we decided to go together and I just hung out until the first train basically at 5am. I feel like almost anybody would do the same thing in that situation.

It's not like I got out my code. It was like, maiden, please don't step in the pub. I was like looking on the rooftops of Shui being like, any maids in distress, I can say, Cape watering you. And so that became kind of a popular thing at the time. And this guy made a video of that and several other things that any normal person would do in that situation. Like, you know, turning off a bike light when someone's forgotten to turn it off or warn someone to not go into a scam bar when they're going past. That kind of thing.

But he made a compilation. He was like, this is the angel of Shavir. He's the streamer that saves lives. See, there's enough clips of you help people where I feel like, yeah, yeah, yeah. If you spend that much time outside, it's gonna happen. And you say it's a normal thing, but I think it's the unfortunate truth of the matter

is that for some people, it's not a normal thing, right? It's just like, you know, you're saying that because you're a good bloke. But, you know, some people wouldn't do this. I think a lot of people have that, especially in Japan, right? They have that thing of like, I want to help, but I don't. don't, like, they don't have that confidence in the situation to know that they're helping and not getting in the way.

Yeah. I think that, like, when you help like that, like, you know, even like turning off someone's bike light, like, no one would do that in Japan because they're like, I don't want to touch someone else's stuff. What are they meant to do that? Like, what do they mentally get their bike light on? You know? You can lose it otherwise. But it's like such a simple thing, but, you know, this obviously is not the mindset in Japan.

Yeah. Never, you know, they would never stop, you know, someone going into a town bar. Yeah. when there's really no benefits going in those bars. Right, right. But not even just in Japan, I feel like, I feel like a lot of people just, you know, have that mentality of like, oh, it's not my problem, you know?

So why would I get myself involved in or anything like that, right? Which is obviously, you know, any good person will say it's not the right thing to do. But, you know, it's, I think it's, I think the fact that, you know, you got a video like this made and was the fact that I think for a lot of people, it wouldn't just be like second nature like it was for you, right? Like people would maybe overthink it or not want to get involved

or whatever it is, right? I'll take it. Yeah. You're a good bloke. You're a good bloke. And there's sometimes moments where everyone would say, oh, yeah, in this situation, I would do X as well. Yeah.

You know, sometimes you see people in certain situations and they kind of just like freeze up. They don't act the way they think they're going to act. And it's just you don't know until you're in the moment, what kind of person you are. I think this was such a good show of character, you know, because you were in that moment. Let us glaze you a little bit wrong.

Yeah, yeah. From talk saying, let me carry on. It's glazy, bro. Our whip it out, come on. Let me hold it. I'm ready. Yeah. And so that, yeah, that was the whole thing.

And people were coming in being like, have you saved any women today? Have you filled your quote on? Did you see like a noticeable increase in like viewers or anything? Oh, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Like, and you can see, I don't know if you ever check those metrics. Oh, like Twitch tracker? Yeah.

You can see it's like, it's like growing, kind of dying, going to doof, it's a subvertical. Damn. Yeah. And then. So it's, it's, it's weird, right? How sometimes online just like someone else doing something entirely separate of you. Yeah. Can change your life dramatically.

Yeah. Right. Like it's so interesting. Well, I was considering hiring, you know, some damsels in distress to, to bump my viewers again. It's been a bit, it's been a bit of a while. That's not a bad idea. This guy knows content. It's like Dog the Bounty Hunter.

Yeah. Hunting for Maiden. It's all pre-recorded. No, but I mean, it is, it was, I can't deny that it helped the channel a bunch. And I didn't think, of course, I didn't like plan any of it. And I mean, so people have been like, are you the angel of Shia? And I prefer the angle. Do you still get that to this day, even though this video was like five years ago?

You're from time to time. And then because, you know, like these things, they never really die. They just kind of become more and more pixelated as people upload them again and again. So like once a year or so, it'll be like an even more JPEGy version of it on TikTok. It's like 120B. I mean, look, Rob, there's certainly way worse things you can be known. I know, I know. That's true.

If you're going to be known for something, it's not the worst. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But someone, someone recently when I was in Shibu, they were like, wait, are you, are you Rob McDee, the Archangel of Shabir? I was like, that's close enough. That's amazing. Rob McDee.

It's slowly evolving over time. Yeah. But I never, I never tried to like, you know, cash in or capitalize or make that money. I didn't want people to actually think. you know, that's how you know, he's the real angel of Julia.

So, you know, obviously, 2019, uh, when the 2021, COVID, right? 21,

2020, 2020, 2020, 2020, yeah. I mean, that presumably is like, I guess,

like a better, would describe it, the, the golden age of streaming. Yeah. And then, you know, as,

you know, obviously the climate changes in IRA becomes more, the jackasses that came and messed everything out of it. Yeah. What's your opinion on? current landscape of IRL streaming.

Yeah. I was like, yeah, how have you seen IRL change? You know, what are like some major differences? And like, because, you know, I think from the way that, you know, maybe the viewers haven't seen your stuff, but, you know, I think you've always done it the way that I think it was meant to be done, which is like, you know, you, you're

very, you know, you're polite, you don't try to get it. You go for experiences. Yeah. It's about the human, human connection. You know, shove a camera in their face. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that probably comes with a little bit with age as well. But yeah, for sure. So there's two things I kind of want to say. One is that because I live here full time permanently,

I'm probably a little bit more conscious of not burning bridges. So I want to be respectful. And when I go to a place, I don't know. I might see the guy again in the future. So I don't want to cause like mayhem. And that's not the content I want to make anyway. So that being said, like the absolute dickheads who have made it worse for sure. back then in 2020

almost anybody who was RL streaming was like doing it because it was kind of fun novel they wanted to share their experiences not because they wanted to like rage bait someone or like cause havoc drop a deuce on the train or whatever

I don't know what people have done but yeah the way to interact with people back then was totally different and it was kind of novel as well right Like it was new technology. I absolutely feel like back then, if I had a selfie stick mode with the camera,

so many people would be like, hey, what's this, a stream? Let me say, hi, do you viewers and stuff like that. But now people are like, no, get away. It's been soured, right? Yeah. And that kind of progression or something like that, I feel like it's gotten a bit better.

I don't know if I'm huff and copium now, but I feel like people a little bit tired or burnt out. of like that the nuisance stream. Yeah, yeah. I feel like people are tired or getting burnt out of just being content, you know? Yeah.

Just this idea of just, you know, you don't, not just with like IRL streamers, but I almost like feel this, I can almost feel this when you see the amount of street interviews. Right. Street interview content or like shorts and stuff where it's just like, let's just grab a random person on the street and have them say like a wild take or something. And just kind of like turn people

into content and people are just starting to realize, I have no interest in being a part of your content. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or just being perceived. I don't know if you guys have seen this recently, but have you seen, like, the signs up on the trains that says, like, no filming while on the train? Oh, I haven't seen them.

You haven't seen that? Yeah, I've been seen, like, like, on, like, different, like, trains around, and I'm like, oh, is this because of, like, the trend of, like, filming dancers or stuff, you know, in public? Well, I think it's also just because, like, like, you know, you always see those videos that are used in kind of like, you know, they'll just film someone on the train who's like, maybe they're doing something weird,

or maybe they're not even doing something weird, right? Yeah. And just filmed them and post it online being like, look at what this person's doing. Yeah. You know, and it's like, you don't need that when you're just trying to fucking get to work. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah.

I mean, it's the unfortunate matter of the fact that in this day and age, everywhere is getting filmed all the time by everyone. So it's like, you know, just finding like that one solace of, you know, a train ride home from a hard day's work, right? And the last thing you want is some dick ed with a camera coming up to you and being like, say something for content. And I totally get it as well. Like same with it is a kayak too, right?

Like you had a long day at work and you just want to have a couple of drinks. And some guys like, now let me put this shot and now the shot and flip my head on the day. And so every time I go into it, especially if it's a new place, I'm always going to be like, is it okay if I just film myself here? And I'll always try to like only show myself on the camera. And I'm just there for the food and the, you know. And then sometimes when people see you're respectful, they immediately open up anyway. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And, you know, you're not there to cause harm or use them. Nine times that's what I've experienced. They're like, they made this hesitation initially. But the moment we get kind of chatting and stuff goes well, it's like, hey, come talk to the other guys at the bar. Oh, wait, he's one of the good guys. Yeah, yeah. And that happened to me just two nights ago. was a, one of my favorite standing bars called Dai Koku, Big Black.

And they're so lovely there. And they have an outside table where I can just film the street. And I was, I was chatting to some, no, just the camera, my viewers. And then other people are like, what are you doing? And I was like, oh, this is the stream. They're like, can we say how on the stream? And they're like, yeah. And they, we had a good time.

And then one Japanese guy was like, he downloaded Twitch and made an account just so he could read the chat. He's like, what is Keck W? But one of the other guys, he said he runs a brewery or at least a craft beer place in Yo-Yogi. And so we're like arranging to go there and I'll stream it and he'll be like,

hey, try this beer and try that beer. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah, it'd be good fun. Yeah. And that's the way to do it, I think. Have you guys ever been, I'm sure you guys have, but have you guys ever been like,

you know, as consens and creators on the other side where you're just, you know, having a normal day and you see someone else, like filming a YouTube video or doing an IRL stream. And you're like slowly, you're like, low-key kind of like judging them a little bit to be like, they don't know that I also know. Yeah.

And I'm like, damn, is that how I fucking look at other people? Because I remember this one time, right? I was having a day with Sydney. And we, it was like an anniversary kind of day. I saw this. I saw this. You saw this? Yeah, I saw it.

I don't know if it's, oh yeah. Someone posts it on the Reddit. Bro, actually, I completely forgot about that. But yeah, we were having like an anniversary date. I didn't even realize there was a famous like Korean YouTuber, like filming our anniversary date. Because I was celebrating. No, actually it was my birthday that day.

That was, we were starting to remember my birthday. And I appeared on this random Korean YouTubers, like, vlog. Yeah. right, as he was like vlogging this restaurant. That wasn't the one I was thinking of. There was this other time, well, we were celebrated on anniversary. And there was this one guy who was just, you know, he was clearly a food YouTuber, right? And it was a type of restaurant where, you know, it was, it had a certain vibe to it.

And my God, sitting next to this guy trying to enjoy my meal. And this guy going full, like full on YouTuber review voice right next to me. I'm like, here we are in Japan. That was exactly here, man. We're gonna try. Yeah, and here we got our first dish, and it is a, and I'm just like, I'm like, let's do it looks like on the inside.

And I was like, I, this is like kidding me right now, and I'm like, I'm really hoping this is what, not what I look like when I'm filming filming YouTube videos. And it made me so self-conscious every time I film in public, from then on, man. I totally feel you. Oh yeah, this one, this is the other one. I don't know how I'm just,

How are you in all these, bro? I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. He's in full YouTube mode, is it? Yeah. He's in four YouTube mode. You know, when you sit next to Sydney, you always feel like you're in four YouTube mode because, you know. She always speaks the same volume to massive lots. True, true.

Plastic. I love those moments where you just like, you're just, you know, having a private session and, you know, just hanging out and stuff. And then you just randomly show up in someone's YouTube video like this. I remember there was one where, like, you know, all those videos of those guys who are like two, it's like the two hour walking through Shibuya ASMR videos like 4K? Ramblank. Yeah, I remember Aki and I appeared on one of those completely randomly. It was Uaki, us two, and Alan. That's right, yeah.

And that was like pre-trash taste, one of our, like, Japan trips. Oh, wow. And all the comments is just like, 2347, I found them. Yeah, yeah. Or something like that. Yeah, that was so... I love when that kind of shit happens. Yeah. It's like that video of just George Lucas appearing...

Have you seen this video? Yes. Yes. in the background. No. It's like five seconds long, Kai. Can you pull it up? George Lucas like appears or something type that.

George Lucas appears. George Lucas appears. It should just show. There it is. Yeah. That one. Yeah, literally 20 seconds. Yeah.

So, yeah. This is just a video of just a random documentary being filmed. And then out of nowhere, George. George Lucas just appears. That's so funny. It's so apparent to it. I mean,

whenever I see someone like filming something, I love going to the back, just in case someone like, yeah, yeah, and they're like, I don't know, it's just fun.

I also don't fucking baby dog camera. Obviously, I'm always on fucking camera. So I'm like, yeah, I always like to photo bomb. Especially if they're a YouTuber. Yeah,

especially, because I love it. I love it. I don't know. It's just fun. During our recent L.A. trip, me and Connor,

were just in a restaurant. And outside was just like, clearly. The most kick stream of all time happened. Dude, it was ridiculous. I sit down, God has the table. And I'm like, God, what is this seat? Double fucking giant window. And there's like two camera guys.

There's like really tiny like cannon cameras pointing it. And then there's this woman who looks more plastic than woman. I'm just being real. I'm just being real. And then there's this guy who's the most kicks like looking stream of all time. and find his stream. He's got 1700 view-botted views. Oh, way.

Nobody typing in chat. And he's doing some kind of like weird, like, date or something. I don't know. It's weird. No one's watching this. And he's just being so loud. But it's L.A. Yeah, we got to tell me.

That's amazing. It's like whatever. I don't know how I found that one fucking seat. We got on the one seat in an restaurant that wasn't even that empty in the corner on their line. live stream. Yeah.

But I mean, that's like, that's kind of like a ton of people in L.A. are trying it. Right? I remember, I remember going there. I went there for a Twitchcon, whatever it was. And I went to a restaurant and because I was in Japan mode, I was like, oh, do you mind if I filmed there to the waitress? And she was like, what? Just sit down there, honey.

Yeah. Nobody cares. Nobody cares. Yeah, it's like, it's like, it's like, camera. That's like. Star of. Totally. Narcism.

Yeah. Some people, like, some people, I don't know if you've had trouble before with people coming up to give you like a bit of beef when you're filming. No, not. Thankfully not. Thankfully not. I've had that. In Japan? In Japan.

Oh, okay. That's a couple. You have? Yeah, but you know, when you know you're not doing anything wrong, you feel like, bro. Yeah. You know, but obviously when I, when you, when you, you know, if you are like kind of pushing it a little bit, you're like, all right. Yeah, my bad. I'm sorry.

Like, it's over Anakin. I have that. No, I was in Kabukichikichel one time. The idea was like, I would like to try to find new bars. This one thing I really enjoy doing is finding a new bar that looks good and people friendly. So I was in Kabukichita, the great place for new vase, I guess. Famously, great vibe.

Yes, all the rats there. But there's this one street that's famous for tauts, right? It's got like, it's got like so many strip clubs and it's got like the other DGEN clubs and scam bars and what. And I was walking down there and the guy's like, you can't film me. I was like, okay, I'm not, this is a street. You know, you can film in public. And he's like, yeah, but I can't be on the camera.

And I was like, okay, then don't be on the camera. And he follows me in front of the camera. He's like, I don't want to be on camera. You can't film me on camera. It's illegal. I'm like, it's not illegal to film on the street, but you'll keep appearing the camera. He's like, let's go to the police. And I was like, all right, Japanese guy.

Yeah. No, no, no. Japanese guy, yeah. Yeah, and he's like, I'm a famous DJ. You can't film me. So I was like, all right, let's go to the police. So we go to the police. You go to the police?

Yeah, I was like, let's do it. I was like, let's do it. Because I was so tired of his nonsense, he's following. And basically, his whole argument was to the police was like, what I was, you may DJ this? Camera, no, this. And I was like, what is this? And the police, you know, they're trying to have patience.

like, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi. I'm okay, we're gonna'a. And then after like 10 minutes of him shouting the same sentence over and over again, they turned to me and they say, yeah, just be careful. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm like, it's all on stream. It's all on stream.

Yeah. That's so funny. And so just to make a point of it, because I was feeling like, you know, to put my point forward, I walked back on the same street into a bar that I knew, I'm friends with the owner, right? and friends with that I was planning to go there. And by this time, there's a strip club next to this bar.

They'd sat on the window seat. And a different guy was there. And he was like, you can't film me. You can't film here. I was like, I'm just going to see my friend. And he gets physical now. So he pushes me. Oh, shit.

Yeah. I'm like, yo, bro, don't do that. And then he pushed me again. Part of the camera falls off. Yeah. And as I'm going to pick it up, he hits me on the head. He like, hits me on that. I'm like, yo.

And then his friend was like, hey, hey, hey, hey, just leave him alone. He's not bothering us. Just leave him alone. Just let him do his thing. And then he backed off, right? And so when I stood back up, I spoke to that guy. I was like, yeah, thanks, man. Let me buy your drink for de-escalating the situation.

And so I did. I bought him a coffee. And he's like, I'm not drinking. I'm driving today. I couldn't have coffee. I was like, I'll buy your coffee. And he's like, brother, if anybody, gives you trouble, just tell them that you know me, Tiger. And I was like, Tiger. He's like,

yeah, I'm Tiger. Nice to meet you. I was like, thanks, man. And so every time I go back to this bar and my mate, Tiger's there, he's like, hey, Rob, how's they doing? What's going on? And he's been working. We got chatting a few times over some drinks and stuff like that. And he's got such an interesting story. He used to sell American clothes in Matsuyama. And he was like, kind of a baller. He showed me all these photos with him like gold chains and stuff like this and like famous people. But he, he decided to move to Tokyo to try that. Didn't work out so well. So he started working in the nightclub industry. He's still, he's still like got a good rap there, I guess, because every time someone comes up, I don't know if you've been in

public chill recently, but like, brother, you want to see some titties? I was like, how's my boy Tiger doing? And like, oh, you know Tiger? Like, okay. It's like an instant pass. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so every time I go back, we catch up. He recently was able to save up enough money and send it back to his hometown in Nigeria. And he's like, I became a chieftain.

So, so like, I'm like, that's awesome, Tiger. Like, he's like, yeah, let me show you a video. He's full on dripped out in this, like, hand woven stuff. He's got this fancy hat on. And he's doing the, I don't know why, but the celebration part of, of his celebration for becoming a chieftain. He's doing that, the dollar, dollar. And he's like, doing, he's making it rain.

He's making it rain. And everybody's around and like, yeah. Oh, my God. That's fucking awesome, Tiger. And he's like, so cool. He's like, hey, let me show my house in Nigeria. He's, like, shows me this mansion. I'm like, that's awesome.

He's like, you know what else becomes, when you become a chief and you know what else you can do? Have more than one wife. Oh, my God. This is my home CCTV. Look, that's my Nigerian baby mama. And here, this is C.T. my house in Japan.

That's my Japanese. I'm like, Tiger's a man. And then he introduced me to his brother as well. I mean, he's a good guy too. So they're on rotation and they work at a fine establishment, the gentleman's club next to the old cafe. And he's your boy. He's my boy.

I turned him, he said he waved to me once. I was like, wave to the camera. We turned it into a moat. So every time we walk past, everyone's like, Tiger, he's like, hey, bro, my friend. That's awesome. Well, if you're ever in Kabukujo getting heckled, just say, just ask for Tiger. Ask for Tiger. Yeah.

Yeah. So bizarre. It's so bizarre. It's like, you feel like, because we're so used to like a normalized structure of life work relationship. When you hear something like that, you're like, damn, some people just don't play life in some way. It's a different rule book. They escape the matrix, man.

Yeah. Yeah. Damn. And this kind of, yeah. And he's sorry, I need to talk. That is a crazy fucking story. You got fucking punched on stream? Yeah, yeah.

Well, it wasn't on stream because I was facing down, but I was streaming. You fucking punched you in the head? Oh my God. Jesus. Hey, you're better than me. I think I'd lose it if someone punched me. I do it. It goes from my head all the time.

Like, and it's happened more than once. I was just walking along and she was one time. The guy in front of me was drunk. I was laughing at something different. He's like, you're laughing at me? And I was like, no. He looked so much like Harry Potter though. I was like, just say Expellerama.

He's like, what are you talking about? Expelleramas. And I was like, thank you. And then he's, the thing that pissed me off, though, was he was getting like kind of hansy. And his mates were just watching and laughing. I feel like there's a bro code there somewhere. You got to put your boy back.

Yeah. If he's out of line, you got to do something. Those aren't good names. Especially when you know that like, you know, you could punch someone on, they could fall over, something. It could be it, right? You know, that's happened a couple of times in Kabuk-Chow. In for you? Not me, yeah. But obviously

I didn't, I ran. So no one knows about it. No, there's, there was like a, I think it was a story like last year where there was an incident like that. So I'll punch someone in Kabboch show. One punch, fell down, hit the head, died. Yeah. And then, you know, what's the point? And every time, you know,

you see these fights, like, what is the point that they're on a punch? Like, sure, I protect, like, my, my my, my dignity. Yeah. And it's It doesn't solve anything. It's just not worth it. It's absolutely not worth it. You should have just been like, I'm the angel tonight,

but I can't be the devil. You won't want the devil. You don't want to see the devil of Shinjuku. The fucking tiny, you know? No. That is a fucking wild story. I do forget sometimes because

when I tune in, you're just the fucking fermented cheese factory or whatever. Dude, there's some good cheese out there. That you do these things too. 300 types of cheese all from Hokkaida. Damn. It's good. So how is streaming change now the fact that, you know, summer happens and obviously it's really fucking hot. Is that something you consider?

So I have a summer schedule and a not summer schedule where I start at 2pm instead of midday. Yeah. And but it's still rough. And I like I bring a change of shirt and I'm considering like, I'm trying to engineer this stupid hands-free backpack-free setup. It's just not going well because, yeah, but it's just. It's misery. And there's that Sony cooler thing people have been using. I don't know if it's kids.

He lasts for like two hours. Oh, I don't know that. And apparently it's going to be the hottest summer ever this year. Don't say that. That's what I just saw. No. Apparently it's going to go like into the 40s this year.

Oh, God. We're going to have fun with that. It's the hottest summer ever everywhere. I swear. Yeah. Europe's like dying right now. We're all going to die. Leah.

We're all going to burn alive. I can't throw it too. Sorry. Hold up broken for me. Yeah. So what do you normally do during like the summer stuff? Like, do you just like not cycle as much? So, okay, so when I started, I saw it as an opportunity.

The weak ones weren't stream in summer. I will. You're just going to monopolize the IRS. And I was like, Typhoon, bring it up. Hell yeah. But no, that's not necessary. There are a few things you can do. Like, as you know, they crank the aircon here.

Yeah, yeah. So you can kind of skip one place the next and do it. not cycling day or whatever, but yeah, it's, yeah, it is tough. You sweat, I bring two t-shirts, I sweat, I change, and then you kind of get used to it. I become like a mega man that, what's the boss's name, the wind man or something? Oh, wind man? Oh, airman. 15 fans over my body. I try, I just try it. Do you have one of those, uh, shirts that, like the jackets, I know, like the coolers? Oh, you, like the integrated ventilation. Yeah, the screen, regulation. All the, like, the, like, the hand,

men and stuff have them right. Dude, I would like to try it. First, they only last a couple of hours, but more importantly, I've got a backpack on, so it cuts all of the circulation. So you're just probably sweating even more. Because I've worn them before,

and if you're not wearing a backpack, it actually works really fucking well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, the moment you have anything to, like, stop the airflow, you're just fucked. You're just cooking a line. I mean, you know it's working

because the construction workers wear it. They do. If they wear it, that's like no bullshit. This ain't a fads, you know? Yeah, totally. Standing on any, any idea, right? Yeah, 100%. I'm gonna ask because before, not this likeathon,

though, the previous one, you would come back from a trip to Thailand as well. Ah. For Songkhan. Songkhan. Yes, yes. I wanted to know what your experience with it was. A Songkai?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what is Songkhan? It's Thai New Year's. Oh, okay, okay. So basically, talked about this bunch of trash days. The entire country has a massive all the waterfied. Yes, okay.

Yes, yes, yes. I wanted to know what your experience with it, live streaming it was. Okay, yeah. How the hell did you keep your equipment dry? I didn't. My backpack exploded. Oh my gosh. When did it explode?

In song, song, how do I say? Songkran. Yeah. Song Khan. Yeah. Yes. So, okay, so I, I totally underestimated Song Khan. I'll be honest.

It was an incredible experience. I mean, people, Thai people are so friendly, right? It's so cool and so chill and everyone that's really nice. And it's an incredible event. Like, it's insane how many people get involved and how much stuff. And one of my funnest memories of it was actually like the process of choosing a water gun. Oh, yeah.

Because you go through it. There's like thousands to choose from. Yeah. And everybody's like haggling and everybody's doing, trying to find the best one. I ended up settling on two automatically fire. wearing akimbo deagles. So I was like, dude, you gotta do a YouTube video where like,

we rock up to song crime with like a $10,000 fucking water. Gatling gone. Yeah. It's insane, but the, okay, so you can get as fancy as you like. The most effective and the thing that absolutely destroyed my streaming backpack was the good old fashioned bucket. Oh, yeah. I got you.

Well, you know, like when you, when you're, spill like half a glass of water. And you're like, there's no way there was that much water in this glass. It's all over the floor. And you're like, what the fuck? Yeah. And I'm at the bucket is like that time it's 500. So I pulled out, I had to dissect my bag. It was like everything was in water. The SIM cards were on fire. It's like the SD card was exploding everywhere. But somehow I was able to dry it all off and get it going again just to get completely water clogged again the next day, five minutes later. Because this thing goes for like a week or something. Yeah. like four days?

Four days. Yeah. Jeez. Which areas did you go to? I can't remember. I can't remember. I think it was just Bangkok, but yeah.

That was... I mean, it was everywhere in Bangkok. Yeah. Right. But I can't remember the specific area. There's that one street that's like kind of famous for nightlife. And that's, uh... They got like the funniest name.

They do the ping pong show. Probably Kalsan Road. Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. Oh, you went to Calzone Road. Yeah, yeah, Cal San Road. Yeah, that must have been crazy. It was clogged.

It was like a Shibu on Saturday. Yeah, yeah. It's so busy. No, but the funnest memory I had of it, though, was people do drive-bys, right? Yep. They load up in the back of Utes. Yep. Do you want on do UDIS?

Are you talking about the Tuk-Tooks or the... No, the car with the trailer. Is that an Australian word, Ute? I think it might be, yeah. Pick up, like the pickup truck kind of things. I guess so, with the tray that you can, that you can lower down. Oh, yes, yes.

Like that. I know what you're talking about in Thailand. Yeah. Just search up, search up Thai pickup truck, I guess. I don't know. Anyway, so people, people drive around. Yeah, yeah, that thing there.

And people drive around, like, firing out of this bloody, looks like a bunker. Yes. And I jumped on the back of one. I was like, let's roll, boys. Send it. And they've got like a bucket. A giant bucket full of water there you can reload and you just run by.

You're just like, the idea is to bless everybody with water, right? So you want to bless them as thoroughly as possible. Yeah. So you're like, you're destroying their day. So this is like the equivalent of like a tight bus, I guess. It's the closest thing. They have certain routes and, yeah, people would just jump on. And you can just do drive-bys.

Yeah. With your jewel akimbo. Yes, yes, yes. A great selection. Thank you. Thank you. You're like John Wigg. I'll take the dual akimbo wheel,

Degel. I tried to take them back with me because I thought they were so fun. And when I got to the airport, they're like, absolutely hell no. You're not taking these on the plane. I was like, what? It's watering.

Carry on? Check in? I didn't bring any check in. Oh, smart. But the funniest thing I saw was these totally unsuspecting tourists. Oh. They were like, had no idea.

Maybe they didn't even know Song Crime was on. Yeah. But they were like, they were like trying to cover their hair. Like, I've got a phone. I've got a phone. Someone dumps a bucket of. Just like, who asks?

All phones are waterproof. Yeah. Absolutely fantastic event. People are super friendly. And there's also flower as well. Yeah, there's flour as well that you paint on your face. We throw in flour at each other. No, no.

It's just like wet flower that they paint on your face and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah. Fantastic. To keep you cool, that lasts about like fucking 10 seconds. And then it sweats all off. Yeah, and then you sweat it all off. Yeah, but incredible. How did you find the food there?

Dude, I love Thai food. I would say top three is the green curry. Okay, yes, classic. Classic. And I tried, this is on me, I suppose, the worst green curry I've ever had in my life. For some reason, KFC was doing a special Thai green carry. I was like,

I'm trying this. It was not it. I'm sorry. But everything else was good. In Thailand. Yeah. And you dip like the popcorn chicken in the thing. It was just like, but other than that, phenomenal.

It's phenomenal. Other than that. Because loads of places have outside seating, right? Yeah. You can sit and you can chill and have good food. And it's so affordable as well. So I went to the floating market. Oh, the floating market.

Yeah. And so. How are you with a spicy food normally? I'm pretty good, actually. Yeah, I don't mind, I don't mind spicy food. You're just a fucking vacuum, that's why. You're in a bit. On the way, he's totally fine.

I don't even chew. Yeah, but it's nice. How did the, obviously, because I yoinced this from you, I yonk the cycloton from you. Well, I yonked it. You at least, you have a twist on it, though. Yours is like a little bit. Yours is refined and scheduled and planned and, you know, organized.

And mine's like, yee! Yeah. So I obviously saw Rob doing a cyclotone. and that's how I kind of got the idea to do the one with Chris. But I think, you know, it'd be cool to hear how you decided to do it. Yeah, and how it came about. And what keeps you doing it? Were you streaming much on Twitch back then in like in early 2020?

It would have been around the start of it, I think. Right as it started, I think. Right. If it was early or it was mid-2020, I think. I don't know if you remember, but at that time. But I watched Twitch. Right, right. Sub-a-thons were like,

ramped. Everybody was sub-a-thon. Your boy, Ludwig. Ludwig always did the stop. Streetfighter enjoy Ludwig was doing like the sabbathon, right? And I wanted to make a bunch of cash. No, I thought it was a fun idea. So I wanted to try to think of way to do it where instead of like normally sub-athons, it's all time-based, right? You pay and the timer goes up. I was trying to think, is there any other thing you can do that's not time? And I thought like, calories intake, every cell I have to eat another 500 calorie, whatever, or could it be like steps I walk or something? And in the end, I thought like I cycle a bunch anyway, I want to do a trip. Yeah. And so distance became the defining measurement of the cyclophone. So people

would donate or whatever, it would increase how far I had to go. And I had no idea how far I was going to end up going. I thought it would be like three or four days or maybe if I was lucky or week, right? Get to Nagoya, maybe, or Osaka if I was fast. But this thing went on for ages. It went on for like a month. And I had to like, I had to like take detours around Japan because I was running out of Japan to cycle on. But that was basically the start of it. It was trying to find a different way to do a sabathor. You made a funny thing on the map, right, too, if I remember. Did you post this? Maybe like ROTCD cyclathon map. At the end of cyclathon one, I did a like a a little, uh, that was the worst experience ever because, uh, which one is it? It's, uh, from number one.

Number one. Number one, I wonder for it. It will show. Is this AI, I know. It's smart enough. Yeah. Yeah. It's true. So how many like, K's did you travel for that? Like, uh, the first one was number. It was there, three, two, five one, 36 days. 36 days cycling. Jesus. Oh my God. I had the, I had the absolute, I mean, I got some fun stories from that because you just, you just, just, you end up with Stought anyway, but I had the absolute jankest setup ever. Like, it was so bad. I literally, it was made out of shoehorns from IKEA, like actual shoehorns. And, and a washing basket and, like, duct tape and Facebook likes and prayers, you know. It was held together with vibes alone.

And I ripped my pants trying to get on the bike because the washing basket was made out of wire and, like, shredded my pants as I stepped on it. But that ended up in the bin pretty quickly. Or some of the coolest places you got to visit on this first lycathon. So I'd never been to Shimonamikato before that. That's an absolute banger. I'm sure you know. Yes.

But my favorite was like the small onsen towns. I went to Yamaguchi, not Yamaguchi. Yamaguchi. Yeah, which is an amazing place. I loved Hiroshima. It's kind of cliche. But one of my favorite places was the Shimonoseki, which is just on the edge of Kyushu.

and and it's got like a fun memory because you know you know there's like full of yakuza right i mean like i say full of but it's like kind of notorious i went to a bar which was apparently having its anniversary and i was having a drink with the guy a lot of people coming in and going and and i got chatted to chatting to another guy who was a regular there and he was like a little bit old a guy and he was drinking a bunch he was like buying me drinks i was buying him drinks and the staff as well. He's like, you know Steve Alki? I was like, yeah, I know Steve Alki. He's like, he's my friend. I was like, bullshit. He's like, let me show you. He's an artist, this guy, that Steve Alki had bought a couple of works from, and he'd commissioned a stunt from. He's like,

look, he follows me on Instagram and here's our message history. I was like, that's cool, man. That's awesome. Yeah, I often have to prove to people why I'm friends with people by showing a message. But he's a cool guy, and he was pretty drunk at this point. He was. He was pretty drunk at this And as I was leaving that bar, he paid for my entire tab. And I was like, damn, that's awesome. Like, the chances of me ever seeing any of the people I see on the cyclone ever again is like next to nothing, right? Yeah. And so those acts of kindness is just so, so, what do you say?

No ulterior motives at all. Yeah. Yeah. But actually, on the next one, I did go back to Simon Sik. I was on my way to Korea going down that way. and I went to the same bar again and I met the bartender again he was working there that day, the owner

and he was like, oh, you remember our friend? Unfortunately, he died. I was like, what? He's like, yeah, good guy, but he liked drinking too much. Holy shit. And he's like, let's have a toast. And I was like, let's do it.

It's like, to my boy. Did they elaborate how he died? It's already a thing in front. No, no, but he just said he likes drinking a water. I guess we can take a guess. When I was there the first time, like people were bringing in all sorts of stuff

like mushrooms and other suspicious materials. Right. Anyway. Yeah. So having that, like, experience of being part of the little community just for a minute is just unreal, right? Yeah.

That's crazy. Yeah. Is this the only, like, country you've done a cyclathon in? Would you ever consider it doing it in other places? No, well, funny you should say that because I went, my most recent cyclone. I didn't do one this year because I had a kid.

But that was number two. See, I went over the... Oh my God. Yeah, over to... Wow. 4,600 kilometers. How is it cycling in Korea? It's terrible. The roads are really bad.

I mean, the people are nice. But like, I don't know how much time you spend in Korea, especially in the countryside. But it goes from like really nice city, an absolute inaka, like instantly. Unrepared roads and farmlands. stuff like that. And they have no, they have no, what do you say, real infrastructure for cyclists except for that one line through the middle. Right.

Is it a good road at least? No. I fell over, like I broke my bike a few times, but they also don't really care about the incline. Instead of like going winding up the hill, they'll just, you just go straight up it. Yeah. And so. Not designed by a cyclist. Yeah, and then there's like parts of the road

where it ends up randomly on the beach. like on the sand. You have to just push your bike. But anyway, it was a pretty cool experience. That was number two. I actually did a lap of Korea last year. And I did a lap of Taiwan as well. And that was in the same way.

But you say that as if it's so fucking easy. Yeah. Okay. Okay. This is the thing, though, when you have as much time as I do, you can just go slow, right? It does, I think I almost certain...

You do not go slow. It says you go to 84Ks a day. That's, not small. Yeah, but, you know, the funny thing about, was it this one? No, no, it was it? No, it was the one after. I just finished cycling Korea last year.

It was last year. And just being like tested the absolute hell out of the hills, the famous camel's hump. I flew from Korea to Narita, took a train to Haneda, and then flew from Haneda to, from 100 to your cyclathon. So you went from one cyclathon to another? Yeah, yeah. And I was like, this is the funniest thing was because I'd been like through the bloody fires of hell

climbing over Mordor in Korea, I'd joined up with these boys who were like cycling up these little green garden hills and they're like, oh, it's so tough. Wow. You did this entire thing only to come the next day and mong all over Connor and Chris. This is a lot.

That's crazy, dude. That was, that was timing, the timing just worked out. But that's nuts, dude. This is just the final boss. Oh my God. This is last year. This is last year. You just last year you did all of Korea.

Yeah. And all of Taiwan. You didn't like Korea though doing it. Yeah, that was a mistake. I don't go back there any time soon. But I went around Jeju. That's nice. You can gamble on Jeju, you know.

Really? Yeah, they have, they have casinos for foreign. They have different visa requirements as well. So a lot of times you don't even, anyway, different story. But one cool thing about Korea, I mean, the people are always lovely. Yeah. And I met a guy on the ferry back. You see, I went down to Georgia.

Yeah. And he's like, oh, my town is halfway up the eastern side. And I wasn't planning to visit it. And I was like, oh, I'll swing by in like a week. And then you can see that little eat in, right? And that was me going to his town. and I met the guy and he was like

let me give you a tour of Dejan where I live so he took me out to Hanwu which is which is like Wagyu except Korean and we took like Purikura

and stuff like that yeah and he learned the word gauge Gage Gage because we took the Pudikara and everyone was like

gay right right yeah but we kept in touch and he visited Japan and we hung out so it was really cool and then And then at the top of almost one day out of Seoul, my bike just exploded.

The rehab, I had a special silent rehab, which cost like $500. And apparently you need maintenance. So anyway. Apparently the wheels first to stay on the car. Yeah, it exploded. I had no idea what to do. Some guys, I walked to the bike shop, and then he called his friend who gave me a lift, like 50 kilometers down the road. to the nearest track store where they sold me some scam wheels and never sent my wheels back.

But that's not the point. The point was that guy was really nice. And it was like, this is the kind of mindset you have to have, I think, is like every days, you just take it one day at a time. And whatever happens is like what happens. It's not like really finally curated where you have a strict schedule because I need to be back for this and all that in the few days. It's pretty different experience from your cycle.

And I assume each night as well, you kind of just like, find the closest accommodation. Kind of, yeah. Yeah, I try to book it like one day in advance, so I have like a goal for the day. Right, right. You know, if something happens, you can just book at that moment.

Yeah. Hearing your experience makes like conicyclathons sound like a five-star hotel experience. It really is. Every day, every day is like plans. It's like if a bike breaks, you got fucking two vans to be like, okay. We got backups.

It's about the show. That's what I'm saying. Like, yeah, so it's, So it's like, it's like very well organized and planned. When you, when you stop on the bike at Connozwan, someone picks up your bike for you. Yeah. You're the VIP guest, you know. Here you're like, yola, whoops, my bike's missing a wheel. Now what?

Jesus. I'm in the middle of Korea. What do we do? Yeah, yeah, exactly. You always tell me about your pants exploding or something. Bro. So if you look right at the top, so I was trying to time it so that the weather in Taiwan wasn't too hot and Korea wasn't too cold.

But you see this. top part, it's called just to the west of Seoul. Sinchu. Yeah. Nobody cycles there, right? You take a bus because that's like the mountain range here. That separates the two sides of the country. But for some reason, Google Maps lied to me, which I'm sure you've experienced.

Oh, yeah. And it said I could go this way at this time of year, but it turns out you absolutely could not. That mountain range was still closed and I was still too early because it was too close to winter. So nobody was driving there. They weren't maintaining the roads at all. The only other option I had was a tunnel on a freeway that I'm not allowed to cycle on. So I was like, what do I do? Do I hitchhike? Or do I catch a bus? And then some other intrepid cyclist goes by and I'm like, oh, that way's closed. He's like, yeah, I know. He just keeps cycling up the hill anyway. I was like, here we go.

So I followed him up. It starts to get covered in ice, right? Like there's snow on the road. Jesus. And to make it worse, because it's like such a high mountain range, it does weird stuff to the weather, a blizzard comes rolling in. And I'm like, this is stupid. And the guy's like, I'm going back down now.

I was like, well, I can't, I'm like at the top. I can't turn around. What do I do? So I was like, well, I guess I'll keep. going. This is true, true crime video. Yeah. True crime video. Rob went missing on the mountain in Korea.

I had to get off and walk my bike so many times. My pants were kind of frozen because it was like actually snowing. There's ice in the road. Yeah. So when I try to step back on the bike, my pants explode. And I was like, bloody hell, what am I supposed to do?

Am I going to die? Is this how it ends? I was like, I was losing feeling my fingers. And I was at the top of this stupid mountain. And I was like, well, I mean, what can I do? I have to walk when it's like the ice. There's like a lake under the river under the frozen ice on the road. So I just have to like walk across that, then cycle where I can, then walk again, cycle again.

That was miserable. How long was that going on for? It took me like three hours of that. Was chat like the whole time, they're like, hey, Rob, maybe you'd go back. No, they're like, I can't see. the camera's covered in snow. Like, okay, cool. Thanks.

That's my top priority right now. Yeah. But yeah. And finally, I make it off the mountain. I roll like a bloody drowning, shivering rat into the gas station. That's a fuel station for regular people. And a petrol station. And I was like, can I have a towel and a cup of tea?

And they're like, here you go. You're sorry, bastard. Yeah. And so I, like, warmed up in there. I'm, like, half naked from the groin down. And I was like, where can I buy a pair of pants? They're like, there's a shopping mall not too far. So I get down there.

It, in the most horrendous act of comedy, the sun comes out. And it's like nothing ever happened. I look back over at the mountain. It's like thundering and lightning. There's evil spirits escaping from the top or something. I go into the, half naked, I go into the shopping mall, buy some random pair of Korean pants, and that's it for my, my pants had survived every cyclone until that moment. This is the limit break.

Yeah, lying and resting in peace into some random toilet bin in a Korean mall. But anyway, that was stupid. That's insane. And the fact that you went through all of that, an experience that just from the sounds of it, most people will be like, fuck this. I'm going to go home. And you're just like, that was just today.

Tomorrow might be better. It's just like that level of perseverance, right? It's like, I don't know, not many people I know have that. I don't think I'm particularly stubborn. But maybe I am. No, I don't know.

But when you're streaming and when you're on a mission, you kind of get into it, right? Camera is a powerful weapon and militigator. Yeah. Yeah. If you think like, damn, I'm going to do some dumb shit

that I wouldn't do because there's a camera now. I'm going to go up the mountain where I would normally turn around. Yeah, Well, the cameraman never dies. So as long as the camera's on, right? Then you got that safety.

I mean, there is, there is that weird sense of comfort of like live broadcasting your location because you're like, worst, worst, worst-paced scenario. People know where I am. People know where I'm at. People know when my corpse would be. Not that anyone would call, you know, I don't know. Like maybe if the stream had died or something, maybe someone would have called like someone to come. You don't know, right?

Like it's one of the scary things. Yeah. Was that the toughest day you've had on the psychathon? No, top three. Top three? That was top three? I would say, the worst I would say the worst I have ever had was I was cycling around Wakanae, which, you know, is like the northernmost point of Japan.

Yeah. And it was, this was absolutely horrendous weather. And it was, I mean, it was the most misery I've ever had. cycling because I tried to stall it by, I basically rented a dad for a day in Wakanae to be like, hey guys, can they do something different. Basically, I was stalling for the weather. You can rent a taxi driver to take you around different local spots, but turns out he just like takes you to spots where people, I guess, pay him or something. He's like, go and buy something over there. Go and buy something here. Right, right, right. But it was a kind of good distraction. But anyway, the day after it was still like

It's still typhoon weather. And I was like, I can't, I'm not going to stay here for long. I can't like just hang out for a day. It's not, it's not a marathon if you stop, right? So I set off and this was literally like those grandpa stories about how they get to school. Up in both ways, torrential wind in your face, both ways. If you know the top of Waka Nai, it's like a kind of like an upside down V shape. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Somehow, the whole way I had, it was like minus two degrees with pelting rain and hail. It's a Cape Coya, I think, is the actual spot. Oh, Cape Missouca is the top one, right? Yeah. So, look, you think, if you look at that map, you think at least one of the ways I'd have a tailwind. But why? I don't know why not, but it was against me the whole time.

Dude, that happens. I swear. I don't know what it was. but I had like 110 kilometers to do in like 30K wind and hail and I, it was so miserable and I was like, I was so fed up and so pissed off. And absolutely I should have stopped. Because at the end of that,

I literally couldn't feel my fingers. And I couldn't feel my fingers, the tips of my fingers, for like two weeks afterwards. Jesus. I got actual nerve damage. Oh, wow. Oh, my God.

Yeah. So that's one of the only times I've been like, I get to my destination and I'm like, that's it. See you guys. Yeah, right. Because normally I, normally I like, you're allowed that. Yeah. You're allowed that.

Yeah. There's a streamer sometimes. You're like, hey, I got to take care of me now. Sorry, guys. Yeah. Well, normally I like to show. Yeah, you want to show the town. Yeah.

Yeah. And I don't, I don't exactly plan on, on restaurants to go to. I try to vibe it out when I get there. Yeah. Is there any place that you've been on your psychathons and like, you know, the three major places you've been to that you definitely want to come back to, or you think you'd like recommend to be like, this is a cool area.

Yeah, what's like an underrated part of Japan that you'd say, like not a lot of people have gone? I really like, I don't know if it's underrated or not, but I really like the north side of Honshu when you're on the east side of Honshu. You know what I mean? So like the Nihonkai? Oh, like, I just did, right?

Not that part. Oh, sorry. So you're like, oh, oh, the, yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, I really want to do that. That's the one I haven't done. The tube area, yeah. Yeah, I've heard that's stunning. It's super nice, yeah, the view is good,

the internet's not that good, but they've got like some amazing stuff over there, like good views and the desert, of course, is cool. And people are so much more chill, I don't know why. I guess people just don't go there,

but that's a stunning part of road to cycle on, and you get a lot of, like, beach views and cool mountains and stuff. That's one of the few areas of, I don't think I've been to yet. Like I've been to, we've been to Totori for trash days, but like Shimane and stuff like that, I don't think I've ever been to.

I thought it's really beautiful. It is really nice. Yeah. I also like Kyushu a lot because it's like, it's stunning, but they, they scare me with hills over there. How's Shikoku? I've never been to Shikoku. Never.

Never. What? Yeah, it's one of the few places I really wanna go. I wanna try and hit it up sometime this year or next year. I love Shokku. I really wanna go. The Kōchi, that bottom part of Shokoku, I haven't been to. That's the only spot.

Coach is so cool. Is it? Yeah, because it's kind of like there's like palm trees everywhere. Like really tropical. Yeah, but it feels like, it feels like a city that also is kind of stuck in the 80s, which obviously is very

common in Japan. You're there and everything feels older, but chiller, it's really beautiful. Good sake there, I heard. The really good, uh, uh, Katsu Bushi. Uh, Katsubishi. The fish. Yeah, famous for like the fire grill.

Boni-Tio fish. That's beautiful. But it's really being nice. And like, you'll never see any tourists there. Super easy to get there because you can just take one hour flight from Tokyo. Yeah. And it's, and there's the river, which I went to my parents, because I took my parents, Scotchi.

Oh, okay. Because I was like, I want to show you something truly that like, no one ever goes to. Yeah. Yeah. Downtown, right. There's a river, I think it's called the Shimantle, the one that's like to the southeast of, you know, is it kind of curse. Asimantogawa, yeah, yeah.

Scroll out. It's quite far out. Just scroll down. I like go down. It's like this. Yeah, there it is. It's a river. And it's really beautiful.

And did like kayaking along that river. And it was really nice. Incredible. It was okay kayaking that when I did it. It was kind of, it was really, really low water. And he's like rocks and stuff.

And there was like a, yeah. And it was the current was so strong. You didn't really have to kayak. No. It kind of just take you. You kind of just like direct your stuff. a little bit. But it was cool. I have this vivid memory of kayaking and the guy, a guide was like,

oh, that's our boss right there. And he's like getting crabs with like a crabbed. He's like, he owns it. Hell yeah. And everyone just seemed really nice and very chill and like a very slow way of life. And you know, it's so mountainous. Shokku. Yeah. Yeah. But when you drive around it, it feels like you're in like truly the middle of nowhere. I did cycle there once and I went from what's a what's Matayama what's Ehime yeah

that's the north east and I went I went straight across you can see that that big road that goes like straight west

or east of west whatever I cycle across that place and ended up in Naruto and so yeah yeah

it's war pools yeah that was kind of fun it's cool yeah shokku is really

good me and Chris I filmed a couple of times there and Chris really likes it a lot too

quite a lot of interesting thing yeah I've got to hit it out and I believe in

I think it's Takamatsu, there's a Jemiriquai bar. Wow. Randomly. Jammarikwai bar. Which I really want to go to because Chris keeps talking about it. Does the floor keep moving around? That would be so.

I just love these kind of bars with the guys like, I'm just going to make my whole fucking life this thing. Yeah. Yeah. And then you ask them about it and they're like, they're like, you know, like truthfully because they've been into it for so long. They're like, I don't care it. Yeah.

The fucking bar is a Jumriquai bar. Yeah. So I'll talk to you about Jibiriqui. If you guys could choose one thing. to make your dream, like, bar about. Just just the one, just the one obsession they have. Because I know if I did that, I would immediately hate my hobby. That is true.

I would hate the thing I love? Would you make a monkey bar? No. The monkey serves you. They used to have, I don't know if they still have it, but there are bars, the monkeys serve you in Japan. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's in like Colby or something.

I think there's one up north. Is it? I think so. I have heard of that. I know that like, you know, obviously people don't talk about it because the ethics of it are atrocious, but there are bars where, yeah, there's a...

Oh, it's in Utsnomiya. That's right, that's right. That's right. That's the Gyoza place. Yeah, the Gerson Place. Yeah, the Gersenberg. Yeah, there's a bomb where like little monkeys serve you. It's pretty bad.

Yeah. But it's just like one of those things you're like, what is this? So you wouldn't make a monkey bar. is what you're saying. What is this? The tavern closed on October 15, 2020. As of 2025,

the whereabouts of the monkeys is unknown. They're just like, you're free now. Go on back to the world. To be fair, it does feel like constantly in Japan. You hear about bars like this. And like, you know,

most of them you hear about that have closed down recently. Yeah. But it's just these kind of, like, I don't know what the word for them is. I think that's, I always say,

I forget how to pronounce that. No. McCork? Oh, yeah, sorry. I'm thinking macab. Like, these very weird Japanese things from the 2000s, late 90s, that really shouldn't still be around. Yeah.

They're kind of getting phased out. Yeah. I don't want to go to the monkey. Yeah. Like, sure, if I was a salary man in the 80s, and all I did was smoke, drink, and work and make a shit ton of money, I'd be like, let's go to the fucking monkey bar. Yeah.

Michael Jackson's got one. Yeah. I'm making Michael Jackson bar. I mean, I've been to the Mr. Beast, Mr. Bean Bar in Vietnam. Mr. Bean Bar in Vietnam. Yeah, yeah, there's a, there's a bar. I don't think it's legit though, but yeah, in, I think it was in Hoyan. There was a, there's a bar that was, yeah, yeah, Mr. Bean bar.

I've been here before. Like, in the West, we just don't really do this as much. Like, we do have it, but we don't go like... Don't go so deep, right? Yeah. normal. Whereas like Japan, it's like they're obsessed with it. And Asia, I guess, at least Asia as well. Yeah. Just the fucking, just Rowan Atkinson staring at you from an every suit. While you're ripping a shisha. And it was right next to the Bob Mali bar. So I also went there.

Outsunomi also has like a Beatles bakery and bar. Oh, really? I think. Oh, that's cool. That's pretty good. Yeah. Very good food. But that, I mean, Japan does that so often like you say, right? And places are known for their not only... Quirkiness. Yeah. So it's fun. It's fun to find these places randomly and check it out.

Yeah. It's like... And the thing is, you find a lot of these places just in the middle of nowhere sometimes. Right, right, right. Right. And just the most random places. Yeah. Have you seen the sad Gundam on the way to Fukushima?

No. I thought you might... Wait, I have seen this. Did you stop by it? I didn't stop by it. I have seen it, though. I've seen it. Yeah.

It's the most, it's the most, like, it's the most sorry-looking thing. Some, some super fan of, of Gundam, he's tried to make his own statue. And he just looks so defeated. He's so sick. I love it. That is actually kind of sad. I love it show. I love this show much.

It's so funny. Why is he so wide? No, why it's why his legs so. like, dangling. His face is so long. He's like letting out the permanent sigh, right? Burroughs built like Walloian. Yeah, but this guy's made his front garden all about sense.

So it's become like a pilgrimage spot, right? Tired Gundom. Yeah, tired gun. That's awesome. I want to see that now. He's got a bunch of like random guns next to it now. I don't know why. Like military stuff.

But yeah. Hell yeah. fun. So one thing I want to ask, since you're a dad now, how do you balance? Because, you know, being an online content creator, one of the big things, especially being a streamer. One of the big things is that you just got to stay live, like, just permanently. Yeah. I mean, so to kind of preface, preface this answer, I want to say my style of content, it's not like, so some, for example, some burger places are known for their high tier gourmet burgers.

Yeah. But the most popular ones are like the McDonald's ones. They put out high content. What are you trying to say? What are you trying to say? Are you trying to say that you're the McDonald's of viral content? No, no. No, you cannot say that.

No, it's like, you're the sad Gundam of Ireland. The passion is there. No. And we love him for it. No, it's like the comfort, the repeatable, you know, you don't know what to expect. And so saying that, I do actually do quite a lot of hours. Like, I try to go for 200 plus hours a month, streaming.

Jesus. And so tying in that to being a dad is, it's certainly become a challenge. Like you, I mean, most parents would agree that when you first become a parent, you lose a lot of free time, almost all of it, right? But hats off to Tracy. She's tanking a lot of it. She like, she like takes care of him almost all the time. And he's a, he's a cute little mini-disc, we call him.

Mini-D. Right. Oh. Yeah. I love this. Yeah. Yeah. And he's a pretty good kid.

Fairly easy as far as I know. Yeah. For the two hours I take care of him a day. Yeah. But no, she's putting in a lot of hard work. Of course, we don't have family here, right? So it makes a little bit bricier. And we try to balance it and she'll let me know if she needs an extra time off.

And like I take about two days off a week, sometimes three if it gets a bit hectic. But it's it's, you know. You figure it out a ride balance. Yeah, we get a routine, right? Does it ever like, do you ever have to put a consideration to any like future big events you might want to do like another cyclone or something? Yeah. So I skipped normally at a cyclone every year. Mm-hmm.

And this year I skipped, right? So we're thinking about how to do it. Like maybe now he's going to daycare age. I might be able to do one and make it a bit locally. And I thought about doing like a salary man-a-thon, which is like a cycle of fun, except I take the weekends off and come back. And then on Monday again, I'll continue on from where I was.

Oh, I see, I'm still talking with ideas and it's not set, yeah, right? But so just trying to figure out how to make it work. And fortunately, though, like you said, with the creation, it takes a lot of time, but you are a bit more flexible in a lot of cases, so I can start later on. Sattering Manathon is not a bad idea. Yeah, yeah. You're actually just preaching us like a 9 to 5, you know? I don't know if I'd come back exactly on the weekend, for example, but you can be flexible,

I think. And this is actually kind of interesting to think about, like, because streaming and generally is a fairly new concept, right? And a lot of streamers are getting older and having families and stuff like that. So it's becoming a kind of thing where streaming or parents are streamers or streamers are parents.

We're kind of paving the way a little bit. Yeah, yeah. People make it work. I mean, it's like I, you know, obviously there might, you know, the biggest content creators often the youngest because they feel to be like a very young audience, right?

Yeah, more free time to watch. But I think as we kind of get older in this age, I've firmly believe, there will be an absolute need for like streamers that are like 50. Yeah. Yeah. Because if I've grown up my whole life watching streamers or whatever, I'm probably going to be like have a lot of comfort seeing someone around my age who's kind of been through the same

things as me. Just trying to just having fun, you know, and I'm trying to like do some cool things. I was like, how long do you think our audience? Because here's the thing, we've like, we've been content creators for long enough that our audience has not only like discovered us, but they've grown with us, you know, our audience, our content has changed. And our content, I would argue, is become a lot more mature as our audience has become a mature.

Yeah, absolutely. I feel like I'm like, you know, with concentration, we're like, we're like dad when we go off to college. It's like, hey, you can go on, you can stop watching, man. I'll still be here. If you need me, I'm here.

How long do you think our audience is going to continue watching us? Like, as long as he, as long as you make content? I don't know, man. Yeah. Yeah, how long? Yeah, how long? Yeah. Because I, you know, going to like conventions

and meetings and fans sometimes, I'm always like shocked and maybe a little bit worried about how long some people have been watching me. People, when someone, when someone says, yeah, I've been watching you since like the fucking K-on review or something like that. I was like, that is like 15 years ago. Yeah, the worst ones are when they bring in age

where they're like, I was watching you when I was nine and now I'm in college. Oh, God. Just like, stop talking. Oh, no. I'm deteriorating by age. My dad introduced me to you. Like, it makes me think if I, you know,

I don't think I'm going to be doing, like, YouTube forever, but maybe I'll be, like, you know, still in my 50s or something, maybe doing the random, like, live stream events, you know, maybe. Will the same audience still be following me then? Come on watch me build this table. Everyone with, like, kids and, like, a stable life now. Me, with my fucking grandchildren. I don't know.

And will my viewers still be around, and like, I remember when you were talking about Aramaga Sensei back in the day, the kids don't know. Don't know what it was like. 35 years ago. The good old times. The good old times. Because, you know, it makes you think about,

okay, these are the celebrities and the faces I grew up watching up, watching back in the day. And, you know, you stop watching some actors, some kind of like musicians and you're like, what are they up to nowadays? What is the lead singer of, you know, I'm trying to remember like a random fuck, man. Hey, man, quickly.

What is the, what are the singles of Blazing Squad up to right now? That was, I don't know why it came to that. I don't know. It's like when you think, what was it? There was like a famous interview recently with like Michael Jordan, where he said all he does is play golf. And he had like thrown basket, basketball in like years. Yeah.

And then he goes to like some birthday party and some guys. I was like, hey, my son really wants you two to three. And he's like, he's like, apparently he said he was like more scared throwing this three than anything else. Because he's like, he doesn't want to be washed in front of these kids. Yeah. You know, and he hasn't played basketball. And then they, you know, they ask him, did you sink it?

He's like, of course I sunk. Who do you think I am? But it makes you think like, and I think about that too a lot where you're like, you know, you think about these people who spend the whole life doing something. and you just will stop. Yeah. At some point. Someday will be your last...

And you have to be okay with that. Yeah. 100%. Scary shit. Yeah. That's... I mean, that kind of ties into IRL as well, right? Because you can...

It's pretty flexible in what you can do. It's not like playing this one child's card game for 15 years. You don't get so sick of it. You want to... Anyway, with IR, you're kind of flexible, right? So before I was drinking almost every day and doing some DGEN stuff in Shibuya or wherever. But now I can, you know, go for a cycling trip. I can go fishing or I can do what I go camping.

I went camping the other day. And yeah, I mean, if people who are watching you are a similar age, they're probably interested in, I guess. Yeah. I mean, you kind of set the vibe of your stream and you set the vibe of your audience. Yeah, right. Community, most importantly, as well. Right.

I mean, they say that's, you know, your chat is a representation of you. Yeah. Do you believe that? You believe that corner? I mean, I think you can, you can like, hmm, what's the word? Like, you have influence on them, obviously. Yeah.

Because you set the vibe. Yeah. So you're a vibe maker. So if you say it's okay for a certain vibe to be around, I think somewhat it is on you. Yeah. You know, it doesn't really matter how big or small you are. You definitely have way more control of it than you think.

Yeah. Yeah. And people, people, you're trying to attract a certain type of audience. Absolutely, right? I think everybody would admit to that. Yeah. You're trying to get a vibe. Yeah.

You know. Yeah. It's not always easy to do. It's always, you know. And then maybe it's slow. But, you know, it's better to build something, I think, more genuine than, you know. Something of a burnout on, right? Yeah.

Something you can't sustain. And I think a lot of streaming these days, I mean, at least in my case, you know, back when I was young, we had the TV on quite often. Just as background noise. Yeah. That's your boy. That's all of us. Yeah. That's what they're showing.

Yeah. Second monitor gang. Yeah. I mean, I look at trash taste, and a lot of the times, I do appreciate people who comment, and I look at the comments. And most of them,

the comments, always about the first hour. Yeah. The second hour, it's like, it blends. Yeah. But it's,

obviously, not everyone, but I just think it's funny. Hey, but it's fine. It's, you know, second monitor is still the monitor.

Hey, look, we're here to provide. I'm totally okay with that. Papa's home. Dad's back with the milk and cigarettes. Yeah. Every week.

Yeah, yeah. But I don't know what it's going to be like in the future. I don't know if there's going to be like more and more strict rules either, you know, for IRL stuff. Compliance and stuff like that. So how, you know, with IRL, do you see yourself doing it for a lot longer or is it you kind of? I'm ready to sell out. Take the bag and leave.

No, no, I'm kidding. Go back to StarCross. Finally make it work. Finally, go pro. I think IRA, like I said, is really flexible. So you can, I don't think you really have to retire it ever. I think you can just like dial it back or change it to what you're interested in. Like maybe one day I buy an Akiah and fix it up over the course of a year.

Yeah. And have it crash on me when I do it badly in the future. But the idea is that you can, yeah, you can just kind of make it what you want. And it would be hard for a whole genre to go out of fashion. I always love asking this question to every content creature. I know who's also apparent. your kid comes along. Oh, no, don't ask that.

I'm like, Dad, I want to be a streamer. I want to be a streamer as well. That's my term, son. Get out of you. How do you react? How do you approach that? Jeez. Okay, so my device I got from my dad, who's a real engineer, unlike me.

Yeah. He sort as a very clinical and very stats-based approach. So I think it's fine. I mean, I would be happy, and hopefully I can do this long enough that I can provide a life situation where he's able to try out things

that he's interested in. But I'm going to, you know, streaming or doing anything where your own manager, it's really hard to know when to stop or when to shift or when to know, because nobody's there to tell you.

Yeah. So you have to be clinical with like all the stats, all the stuff that you can actually see and you'd have to know when to stop or change or whatever. So if he says that, God forbid, then I'll be like, it's not as fun as you think it is, kid. But anyway, I'm not going to stop him, right? I'm going to be like, listen, set yourself some goals, come up with some ideas, see how it goes, see if you actually like it. And if you do,

then more power to you. Yeah. Who am I to say no, right? I mean, it's always our thing because it's just like, well, we went for that process. Yeah. Yeah, but you'd also be surprised the amount of content creators we've had on the show We've asked that exact same question and 90% of them being like, fuck no Never letting them touch the internet, fuck that Wood tablet for you only No, I think, yeah, I mean it's like right now it's like the number one job Yeah, desirability wise

Something else will come along Yeah, you think professional lottery winner, perhaps Something's got to come along it always does man And the internet is just so connected like that. Yeah, something's gonna come along. But I feel like IRL and just like, I don't think the concept of going outside is if I'm gonna go out of style or anything like that.

That's something that's something just because people wanna vicariously experience something. Yeah, 100%. In a whatever way. I think it's the same with like street interviews. Like, you know, people, you see these street interviews like, I would love to just talk to that guy, but I don't wanna go outside

and have to actually talk to strangers. So I'll just strike it up. Yeah. So what I'll do is is just watch someone else who's a lot more extroverted, try and farm these interactions until they get one, it's great. And then post that one,

and then I can feel good about myself because I feel like I listen to a stranger. Human interactions, or, I mean, it's been around since. We're like, yeah, we've like fucked, we fucked the brain up with it. Yeah. Yeah.

But no. Why, are you planning for something? I don't know. I mean, I've said this publicly. I do want to be a father one day whenever that one day comes along. You know, if it can happen, I don't, I don't want to say anything

too early, but... If you're a future kid said the same, do you have an answer? Don't do anime. It's like, what, what's up are you doing in? Anime? You're gonna be with me. You're gonna be with me, sir.

Get up my lord. You better call yourself giga too. Think about streaming and stuff and YouTube is when you talk to someone who's doing it, but like, I mean, there's no right reasons, but like maybe their heart's in the wrong place with it. You can tell right away when you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, of course. You're like, they don't really know what they want to do. They just want to do something and they're like, make the money without doing anything. Yeah, and it's like not even like finding the fun in it. It's like what kind of do that succeeds? And, you know, those things. I mean, I, you know, don't have a kid,

but I've had plenty of like nephews and family members come to me and ask me, hey, how do I be a YouTuber? How do we be a streamer? Because they want to start making content. Some of them have started making content. And I just, you know, I try to be genuine with my advice to be like, don't treat this as you're out. Don't treat this as like trying to make a job.

You know, you got to come into this as just you enjoy it. And if you are able to get opportunities out of it, fantastic. Yeah, if it takes off then. Yeah. And I feel like I have a very old school mindset in terms of modern conservation because I feel like a lot of kids nowadays are like, I need to make this my job. I need to have an end goal to this.

And I think that is a very dangerous mindset to have. Yeah, 99.9% of people think that never make it. Yeah. Because, you know, you have like outliers, like, you know, your Mr. Beasts or your Logan Pools that, you know, came from a different generation of content rages that I grew up in. And they were like, we are going to make this our job or we are going to fucking fail.

Die trying. Yeah, you were going to die trying. And I don't know, that is a very dangerous mindset, I think. Before we wrap up, any piece of advice for... Is it really been that long already? I think so. Yeah. So don't...

If you want to do IRL, don't only do IRL. I think that's a bad thing because you can make it more like a special event once every so often, once a week or twice a week. But don't make it full-time thing because it gets hot in summer. It rains. The internet sucks. Sometimes people suck. You can always do IRL, but you can't always not do IRL if that makes sense.

So like once you've... Like don't pigeonhole yourself. Don't pigeonhole yourself. If one thing differently that I would do, I would probably try that differently this time. But I don't know, be respectful. Make sure you know what you're trying to do and make sure you're not trying to piss off anyone. Make sure it's repeatable, like longevity or whatever. Yeah.

I think that's important, right? You hear that kickstreamers? Yeah. Listen, holl. As long as you don't leave the place worse off than you found it, then that's probably good enough, right? Would. Yeah. Thank you for that. Thank you. Dude, what a great episode too, man.

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