Trash Taste Podcast - The Apocalypse Episode | Trash Taste #290

Episode Date: January 9, 2026

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Welcome back to another episode of Trash Taste. I'm your host Connick. Once again, joined by the boys, Joey and Gant. How are you doing? I'm doing good. Doing good. Yeah, we've been up to. I went to Fuji yesterday.

All right. Not climbed Mount Fuji. Just, just for, look, every time I go to Fuji, people are like, yeah, but when are you going to climb it, though? Is it just me? I have no interest in climbing Fuji. I didn't. I did it.

You did? You've done it. Have you done it once or twice? Once? Once. Do you have, do you have, like, okay, it seems fun. but at the same time now, just the amount of people coming into the country. Yeah.

I can just imagine just Fuji just not being fun with the amount of people there. Because when I went to Hakunay as well earlier this year, this year, this week. Yeah. And it's just not fun because it's just too many people. Because you're showing your family around, right? Yeah, I'll show my family around. And also, Aki's best friend from America is visiting. So she wanted to go to like all of the tourist places.

Your dad didn't want to climb it? Fuck no. Your dad was looking for the nearest bar. Yeah. My dad was just like, yeah, but when are we drinking next? Have you been drinking a lot then? Like every day for the past like three weeks, dude. No, it's not even Christmas holiday yet.

Dude, I went to Chris's bar for the first time. He finally took me there. And I drank like seven or eight cocktails. And I wasn't with your dad or your dad? No, no, no, no, just with Chris. So you got free from your dad and then you drank seven cocktails. Yeah, and I wasn't even phased after seven cocktails. Chris was like, man, you're drinking a lot.

I was like, really? Did you try his cheeseboards? I didn't try his cheeseboard. Because we went to an Italian restaurant beforehand, and I was way too full. So we literally just went... Chris taking you out for a simple meal, I see. Yeah, yeah. He was just like, well, yeah, he was like, you should definitely try the cheeseboard.

I'm like, why don't you try it? And he's like, I've had 17,000 pounds of cheese already today. I'm good. He does eat a lot of cheese. He's committed to cheese. Yeah. But he seems happy. I mean, yeah.

And that's the important. Yeah. I mean, his cholesterol doesn't seem happy. Well, no. That's a future gross problem. He's a... That's why they do the psychathon every year. It's like charity is like the second reason, you know.

Chris is cholesterol. Yeah. Low and a lot of cholesterol, to be honest. What about you guys? What are you being up to? Honestly, just chilling. I mean, it's a busy month before we fly off for the Christmas holidays. Yeah.

Which, like, are we all going back home for Christmas? I'm going to be in the UK for Christmas for the first time. I think a decade or something. Wow, really? Yeah, I was trying to remember the last time I was actually in the UK for Christmas and I think it was before I started dating Sydney, which is...

Oh, wow. Shit, really. Holy fuck. Which has been... I could have sworn you were back before. Yeah, I swear you were back as well. Why are you saying that? I don't know, because in my mind, like, ever since we started trash chase, it's always like you two are back in the UK for Christmas.

No, no, I'm in Thailand. Oh, you're in Thailand. A lot of the times. Oh, yeah, yeah. You're back in the UK for Christmas every year, right? Well, most years. Are you not? I'm not this year either. Oh, really?

I've gone back. Oh, but not for Christmas? But I'm not for Christmas. Oh, you come back before Christmas? Yeah. Oh, word. Yeah, I don't know. Last year I did UK, I think, did I do UK?

I don't know why I did. And I was like, I'm done. May, if you don't remember. When you were in, like, Canada or something last year? I was like two years ago. Oh, shit. That was two years ago? Or three years ago even?

Shit, bro. That could have been three. Well, years are just blending together, dude. This is getting old, man. This is getting old. This is what it means. This is what it means to get old. Yeah.

I just went to Hokkaido yesterday for filming as well and came back. Oh, yeah. Next day as well. That was fun. When's that video coming out? Probably the other time. This episode's out, I think. Oh, yeah.

When's this episode coming out? Who knows? Who knows? But no, yeah, it would be out. It was fun. It was a full day of filming stuff. It was fun. Yeah.

It's cool. It'll be exciting to show you guys. I'm sure you guys will know what it is when it's out. Maybe it's out already by now. And if it is, cool. Yeah. I don't know if it. But it was, it's always, it's always interesting when you film.

And we had like a, because it was for a sponsor. So we had a bunch of people there. It's always so chaotic when you go from filming like us, three and just one camera guide to tons of people who want to make sure everything's going. Okay. And you're like, uh, uh, just like 20, 30 people staring behind the camera. Yeah, I don't mind that part. There's always like so many stop starts because they're like, we got to check something.

You're like, all right. Then you're like, okay, cool. I'll just go and get some bread or something. I don't know. Go get some bread. I'm going to get some bread. You're from your reservoir of bread. I was with Pete.

We went to a restaurant in the evening with it with everyone. And they'd booked it. So we went to a Kaiseki restaurant, a Japanese traditional style restaurant. And it was a course meal. And it wasn't many courses. It was like in these guys. So we had like four things that came out. Yep.

And it was funny because some people in our group, not great with seafood. Some people are. But everyone lives in Japan, but everyone's got like different levels of how uncomfortable they are with seafood. So the first round comes out and it's like the fish

that is like the fully grilled fish and you eat the whole thing. Oh, yeah, yeah. And that's a big like, no point for a lot of people with fish. Like if I got to eat the head, I'm out. But I like, I like the head. The head tastes good.

So I'm like, fuck it. I'm like, I feel good about myself. And then the next thing comes out and it's like a bowl of like tempura. And inside it's like squid. And as I'm biting into it, you can see the squid legs, the octopus things like,

the tentacles jutting out. And I'm like, oh, dude, I'm eating it. Like, taste good there. Taste good. So I'm locked in.

I'm like, all, two for two. I'm doing good. I'm doing good. The third one comes out. And I'm like, oh,

God. I think I know what that is. It's like this tempura something. And one of them was asparagus. And I ate that I love asparagus. Second one was this ball. And I was like, hmm, you can know what that is. Anyway, Pete starts eating it.

And Pete's like, hmm, it's really creamy. What is this? I was like, I was like, you should finish before I tell you what it is. And he's like, why, why, what is it? I was like, it's sperm sack, buddy. It's shuddle. It's like fried shuddle. Oh, that sounds so good.

It was, it was weird because it tasted good, but still in my head, I'm trying to get through it. Like, I'm trying to, like, eat it and be done. with it. Yeah. Because I, I, I, I, I, I want to finish all the food that I've been given. Because I, I just, I'm not a baby. Even if I don't like it, I'll just swallow it. Uh, but it was like, I was like, this is testing, testing my ability. Are you, I, you don't strike me as the kind of person who gets put off by, like, the concepts of foods. It's not the concept. It's, I think more often than not, it's a texture thing for me. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't really like, I think only, only I don't like the creaminess, too.

Something about like creaminess. There's like a texture. I eat it. And I'm like, okay. But then in the cake, I'm like, great. Yeah. When it's like with fish or seafood, I'm like, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't,

yeah, I don't like Shiraku either. And I think it is the texture for me. I just, last time I had Shiraco, I couldn't chew it. So I just literally just, I deep throat today. I went in. I was chewing and I'm like, I don't like this. I can't spit it out. So I just, yeah, yeah, I'm a firm belief.

If you go to a place, finish the goddamn food, unless it's a quantity issue, like, there's just way too much. Yeah, you know what I mean? But it's a little thing. So I always have the water ready, just in case. I mean, to do the, like, like, like, the full throat swallow. Like the medicine pill swallowlowe. Yeah, man.

Like, if you are not used to Japanese food, and like, there's no, like, no, like, fault to you. You just not use, you might not be used to it. Yeah. Some things might not taste good or might be very weird to you at first. Like, that'll get you through the starting, starting your food. But I mean, I find the more that you actually just eat these things, even if you don't like it, you will slowly start to like it. Yeah.

Like even the Shataka, I was like, it doesn't taste that bad, actually. I didn't like Shadokka at first either when I had it as a kid. But then, yeah, I don't know. Something about where I'm just like... Conditioning. Yeah, yeah. It's just like you just told myself like, I mean, it's not going to kill you. And it's not like you're going to have it every day. So just to eat it.

And then, yeah, I learned to like it. Yeah. Okay. And I want you to tell me if this is insane because I think this is insane. So we went to the Sapporo Airport. Yeah. And I was walking around And there's a lot to do in this airport

It's quite a nice It's really it's like a whole mall Inside of it They've got like an arcade A theater Ansen They have everything And then

I was just playing the basketball game in the arcade And Pete came up to me And was like I just spoke to a guy I was like oh cool He's like yeah It's kind of weird

His mom came to Sapporo Airport and she wants to stay here For two days To explore the airport Just the airport Just the airport Two full days Why

Yeah, that's what I said. I was like, that sounds, I know there's a lot to do. Yeah. Because we had to wait four hours there. I was like, it was totally great to kill four hours. Yeah. I was like, two four fucking days. That's like going to America and being like, I'm just going to go to the Mall of America for three days. That's hard, though. Yeah, it's kind of high. But, no, I mean, like, it's, I was like, that's, okay, one full day, maybe if you're an airport fan and you love, really love airports, okay, two days. I'm like, okay, I don't get it. It's no Singapore airport, you know?

I haven't been. I bet it's so cool. Oh, it is. It's the best part about Singapore. Yeah. Wow. Wow. What did that come from? In my opinion.

What did the Singapore slander come from? In my opinion, I've said this to Singaporeans to their faces and they're like, yeah, I don't blame me for that. Wait, why? What's bad wrong with Singapore? I just, I don't know. Drag him, bro. Drag them, what I'm now? It's just like, it's not a whole lot to do in the city.

The problem with Singapore is that's so small. Yeah, it's like a hill. Yeah. It's literally a city and then there's nothing outside of that city. to explore. So once you've explored the city, that's it. But it's such a sick city, though. It looks cool. It looks cool. I want to go, man. It looks so fun. No, I'm not saying don't go to Singapore. Everyone should definitely go to Singapore at least once, but... Well, I'll update it when I come back from Singapore, which is by the time this video comes

out. Oh, you're going to Singapore? Yeah, I'm going to AFA. Oh, sick. Yeah. Oh, hell you did. I want to go in one time. Yeah, too. AFA was also incredibly fun. Just seeing like Singaporean, Singaporean fans are another level. I would love to watch the F-1 race. Oh, yeah. That was cool. It's like the night circuit through the city. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Probably the whole country. You drive around it. Pretty much. Yeah. I mean, that's Monaco. You drive around the whole country. It's been fun. It looks so sick.

And, like, you can watch it from the famous three thing, right? Yeah, to be fair, I think... Dude, looks so sick. Look at that. Because this is a relatively new thing, right? Because, like, the one and only time I went to Singapore was when Garton and I went to AFA, which was, fuck, 27. It was a while ago.

Yeah, it was like almost 10 years ago. So maybe Singapore has gone a lot better since then, I don't know. But 2017 Singapore, I was like, yeah, it's right. It's fine. We didn't see the Merlin though. I mean, I drove past it. Did you drive fast? Yeah, and I was just like, oh, there it is.

Cool. The Murlion? What is that? It's basically just this statue of a mermaid with the head of a lion. That's sick. And that's like the one like, this is a Singaporean thing that you need to go and visit. I'm surprised never heard of it. I keep getting the videos and stuff about them bringing back caning.

Caning. I don't know why that's all on my social. I don't know, yeah. Like the things they did in school? Yeah, I think it's some like weird fetish some people have online. And they like really enjoy the super-plocasset. I thought you meant they brought back caning for children. I was like, they do.

I was like, oh damn, okay. I think they did? I don't know. That's what it said online. Finally getting back to the good old days. The good old days. Oh, yeah, the good old days is when we dodge it. Before us, they get cane. Us?

No, no, no. After us, cane them. These little shits need to learn discipline. Whip them in the shape. Kids these days, they need more discipline. I just feel very unfair that we dodged it. We suddenly get to make the rules now. You guys dodged it.

Well, you're in an Asian household. I don't know what happens. We're caning at home. They took away my Xbox guy. In Asia, we haven't patched that shit out yet. That's, we still on the old patch for that. Yeah. They just changed the name.

I mean, it's a cool statue. You know, when you said Mermaid Lion, I really thought something a bit cooler, not to be mean, but I really thought it's going to be like jacked. Oh, right. It was going to be like a fucking rip-fish. Like a Hercules kind of thing. Yeah, there's going to be like, but it kind of looks like a trading, like a playing card thing that you'd find on the side. Like on the side of the playing cards.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's cool. get me wrong, but like, you know, especially knowing you... You spawn Nabi, you're spore Nabi. You're talking about Singapore or Nabi? I heard Singapore. I'm coming down. Fun fact, with the name Singapore, it's from the Malayward

Singapore. It's a Sanskrit for Lion. Was it lying? Sons of bitches. The animal lion. But yeah, Singer is lion. Yeah. Right. Oh, that makes sense because they're like Singapore, right? they're going to line on.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's all I know about. Speaking of Nabi, though, I'm going to be going to Malaysia for the first time. Oh, yeah, finally. After knowing Nabi and a bunch of Malaysian friends here for like... Malaysia Mansion! Yeah, over a decade.

Then I was like, you know what? Yeah, I'll finally go to a comic fiesta. So I'm going to comic fiesta this year? Yeah, so I'm really excited about that. Best part is as well is that like Nabi and a couple of my friends who are Malaysians, like, it's just going to be like, yeah, we're going to take you to all the local places, take you outside of Kualomp or South. actually have like a proper time to like explore the country.

I'm doing a Southeast Asia tour this year. Bro, I'm gonna be so fucking fat by the end of that trip. I can already tell. Bro, because you'll walk it off. Yeah, walk it off.

Yeah, walk it off. Yeah, walk it off. After my seven meals a day. I walk off my beers. After my 16 laksas that I eat. Oh my God, laxas. Yeah,

I'm, yeah, I'm very much looking forward to going back to Singapore. Honestly, just being in Southeast Asia, just great food, great vibes. Both show.

as well, so very, very much looking forward to it. I feel it's a waste as well, especially for us who live in Asia to not explore Asia more. Yeah, I mean, you say that, but it's not exactly like it's easy to get to these, it's like eight hour flight. It's not like a one, it's like Korea, which I've only been to once, which is like a one hour flight. It's not that bad, though.

That means better than like going to America or Europe. No, yeah, for sure it is. Yeah. I mean, if that had more work opportunities, I would love to have more excuses. to go and do things. Even then, though, I feel it's like, you could...

No, I should. You could easily spend, like, four or five days in, like, you know, Vietnam or, you know, Cambodia or any of them. Yeah, I do. I really want to, because I know that I'd fucking... I would eat them dry. Eat them dry. I would show them true gluttony. I am the grandson they yearn for. They just don't know it yet.

They'll need a white boy like me to show up. I can help. I can help. I can change things. Every Southeast Asian parents' dream is... I am, dude. The amount I eat... I actually... would make them run out. They would be like, shit, this just never happened. I have a glumny unrivaled. Yeah, because how many Southeast Asian countries have you visited? Just one. Just Thailand? Just Thailand. Yeah. Damn, you're missing out, bro. You got to go. Well, you had the,

obviously, the Philippine connection to go to the Philippines. Yeah. And then that's about it, really. And that's why you were ahead of me. No, I've been to Thailand as well. I've been to Thailand. I'm into Vietnam. I'm about to go to Malaysia. Yeah. I mean, I'm in Singapore. I guess if, uh, you, you went with your parents as well. To Vietnam? Yeah, yeah. I don't think my parents would ever be, you would want to go. I think that's like a little too far for them. That would be hilarious. It would be funny. I know, I think. But also, I feel like it's a crazy long flight to get to

Vietnam to Vietnam to Vietnam. To Vietnam? From here? Or Thailand from the UK? Oh, from the UK. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. How long is that flight to Thailand, UK? Um, is there a direct flight? Yeah, that's direct flights. Oh, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. Yeah, it's like 13, 14 hours. Same as UK and Japan. It didn't used to be that way, but now it is... Russian airspace. God damn it.

Now it is that way. But yeah, how come you boys weren't at the Katakawa 80th anniversary party? Because I was filming a sponsor. Yeah. Okay, okay, okay. When was that? When was that? That was last week.

Last week? Last week. It wasn't last week? It was like two days ago. Yeah, two days. Was it two day? Yeah. I guess it's Friday?

Today's Friday, yeah. It's two days ago. Bro, you guys missed an experience, man. Well, no, because I was in this meeting. Yeah. And it's like really, like, you know, stuffy meeting. And they asked me if I was going. Yeah.

And I was like, what is it? I don't know what it is. And they showed me the like PowerPoint of it. And they were like, this is the gay bar. And I was like, what? What? They had like different sections. And they were like, this is the gay bar.

This is the thingy bar. And I was like, go, go, go back. The gate, what? Yeah. So can you shine some light into what that was? Yeah, yeah. They showed me like a generic image of a bar. And it was just called like the gay corner or something.

The gay corner. I was like, what does that mean? Okay. So, uh, there was a lot. That was, okay. So, um, we are, you know, technically catacow employees. If we go down enough, far down enough down the, And people think that this podcast is owned and run by them. It is not. It is not.

They have no editorial say in the show. But recently, they just had their 80th anniversary and they threw a massive party. Oh, wow. And it was so massive that they needed to throw four parties because Katakawa is such a big company. There's like thousands of employees. Yeah, thousands of employees. You could not fit everyone into one building. So we got, we got an invite for Geeks Plus, which the day that we were invited was the day that basically all, it was basically all like the foreigner kind of like companies, the foreign-related companies all coming into like one. The Geishen party. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the Geishen party. Because like, there were four different time slots of like when this party would run. And we got the worst fucking time slot where it started at 11 a.m. ended at 2 p.m.

What the fuck? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. But I get in, you walk in and you have your QR code and it's just a lot of Japanese businessmen and business suits. And then there's, you can tell who the Geeks Plus employees are. The Geeks Plus Talent are specifically because, you know, we definitely do dress like talents sometimes. And we do definitely stand out in a backdrop of Japanese businessmen. I wasn't sure what I was expressing because we've been to some Japanese corporate parties before, you know.

But this was a whole different vibe than anything that I'd ever experienced. because I walk in and it's just this giant fucking it's this giant hall. Think of it like a conventional but it's very,

very dark, very dim lighting. And the first thing I see is just a woman wearing a lampshade where with like a very like see-throughy dress just bringing out drinks.

In the other corner there is this person with a like a bunny suit on like a like a Like these ones? No, no, no, no. Like they had like a full-on- Bugs Bunny?

Not like Bugs Bunny. Like a Kigaroomy? Huh? Like a Kigaroomy? Yeah, like kind of... Like a Disneyland kind of thing or... Not like a Disneyland kind of thing, kind of like a... Was it sexual?

Because it certainly fucking sounds sexual. You know? That's what I picture. You know, it's, it wasn't a bunny suit. It was a bunny costume. What is that mean? Like a full-on like cyberpunk bunny costume. Not a Zootopia bunny costume.

There's this, there's this, there's this, there's this, there's this, there's this manga where it's like a death game where they like have to wear like Oh, oh, it's the fucking the the zodiac one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't like Juni Tyson. Juni Tyson, yeah, like Juni Tyson, that back. Right, right, right. Um, no, not like that. Yeah, he's pretty fucking. Yeah, he's pretty sexual. Yeah, yeah. But, uh, he had like a bunny mask on and everything like that. Oh, okay. Like a masquerade party? Yeah, like, kind of like a masquerade party.

Right, right, right. Exactly, like, exactly like that. Okay. And then another corner was just a guy with a mime, with like a, pull on... What is the theme? What's the theme? I don't... I don't know, right?

I don't know. Okay. And so, we, we come in and there's, like, food stores, like, everywhere. And it's, like, very, very... Bougy. A very bougie. you think of like a high class, you go to the top of, like a, like a bar at the top of building or something like a rooftop bar that kind of like that dim lighting, very high class feel.

Like the socialite parties. Yeah, yeah. And I get in and there is an installation right in the center. And there are three big, massive poles that are nailed to the ground. and I was like, oh, that's weird. What is this for? And so what happened? I just imagine the oil pillars from Jojo part two.

And so halfway through the nights, they have this show starts. I don't know what the show is, but you have three people climb up there. And then at the top of the pole, there is just this sphere, this white sphere. And they climb.

into this sphere, right? And then there is this kind of like fucking circus show or something, some circus music starts. Right. And then... What? Yeah, it's... What in the fucking Sirk to Selaide did you go to, bro? It's like some pet shop of horror shit. They go in, and then it's just like they, they like metamorphies, right? And then you see a hand come out, and it's like this monster hand. And I... And it's... And then they come out and they're all like Greek gods and goddesses and then they're like swinging around on these metal poles. It's literally Jojo Pop too. Exactly.

All while ominous circus music plays. Okay. And it is the exact vibe of every evil company in a cyberpunk story you've ever seen. Yeah. I, it's, you know, you know watching cyberpunk like 2077? Yeah. And you go to like the top of like Arasaka Tower or something. That was like the fucking vibe.

And you're at land. I was like, what am I at right now? And I would like to remind everyone, Katakawa is a publishing company. Yes. We are a publishing company. And I remember as this show was happening and you hear a do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do. And a circle of Japanese businessmen watching this man metamorphifies into a Greek god.

And I, I turn over to Mother's basement, Jeff, and I go, are we the bad guys? Certainly feel like we're not in the right here. Yeah. Kind of feeling very dystopian right now. I would have been trooping balls, dude. I would have been like, what is going? What? So how did this show end?

Yeah. What happened? What happened? How did the show end? I don't know. because about three quarters the way through, I'm like, I'm too fucking sober for this. I don't care if it's like 12 in the morning.

I need a drink for this. It's like some Franz Kafka shit. The way you're describing it. It seriously was. I really wish you guys were there because I'm... It sounds like a fake cult you would make in a movie. It's a character's first time seeing the cult. It's like something like uncharted or something.

Yeah, it was one of the most surreal experiences I've ever had at any kind of company gathering or anything like that. Also the audacity for Cardaqa would be like, experience this sober. Well, that's what I'm saying. We had the worst time slot because there was an evening time slot that all of like, I think like the manga artists

and like the illustrators and they were invited to. But no, they get the fun time slot. No, we had to experience this sober at like 12 p.m. And then go back to work it afterwards. I was like, what? Was the food good? The food was good. I mean, there was a lot of food.

There was a magic bar section as well. That was weird. There was a whole section where people were just getting massages. Yo, they brought out the mahjong tables as well. There was a whole section where you can just play mahjong. I would have been there the whole time. This is crazy. And then there was a stage where there were different performers.

I think the most dystopian thing I saw was they had this, they had this like traditional calligraphy and sand show, right? I don't know, they were like doing calligraphy and like sand. I don't really know how to describe it. Yeah. Like sand art kind of thing. Yeah, like sand art. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then there was this moment where they were like drawing like the Kada Kowel logo and like everyone was like clapping. And I was like, oh, it sounds like a cold. I'm like, oh, this is, I'm in George Orwell. I'm in. I'm in a George Orwell novel right now. What on earth. And then they end the show by bringing on, bringing on a group of singers and singing a song from Les Miz.

I dream. I don't quite know how to describe it. I want to, I wish I was like a fly on the wall during like the, the, the preconception of like this particular show being like, all right, so hear me out. Yeah, so whatever you saw in the presentation, the actual party itself was 10 times wider. I saw like a dungeon meshy thing too. Oh, there was that dungeon mesh thing. Yeah, it was like a whole dungeon meshy section.

Yeah, that's cool. Because it's obviously published by Katta Kau. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What was that? That was just a very small section in the corner. Oh, okay. Most of this, most of this, uh, halle got taken up by whatever Cirque the Salé

Did you go to the gay district? Huh? There's a gay district they said on the presentation. I think that was the magic bar district. Famously, the gayest love magic. Yeah, magic money, obviously. Unless they're talking about the guy in the buddy suit and stuff like that. Yeah, I know.

I did ask about that. I was like, what the fuck is this? Gay bar. Not in this car. Can you explain a little bit more about that? The way you've described it is, like, one step short of them, like, ending the show with, like, and now the sacrificial lamb. No, I was expecting. You know what?

If that was the case, I would not have been surprised with how the vibes were. Jesus Christ. Wow. So was it worth going to? Yeah, it was worth going to. It was, unfortunately, shame you guys missed it, but... I would have actually gone if I wasn't doing... Yeah, I was in Hokkaido.

Yeah, I was in Park on there, so I couldn't go. Yeah, we were... Sounds like a lifelong experience. One to remember. I mean, we don't get many company parties, and I wasn't sure what to expect from a catacow party, but... That's so different from the last one we went to, like four years ago. Well, that was Book Walker.

Oh, yeah. This was technically the first catac... I mean, Cadacow is such a big company. Oh, yeah. That's hard to gather everyone on the one roof. I mean, either... Even Bookwalker itself, it's like, we filled up a... That's true.

We filled up a boat. bite soft. Yeah, the boat. Yeah. And also the barbecue as well where we... I forgot about the barbecue. Yeah. We did do that. That was fun. Yeah. And then below that, we have a Geeks Plus with our, with our small, very small team comparatively, you know? Which is definitely not as extravagant. It's like, is a Kyle? Yeah. Yeah, no, sadly no, no, strange dancers. No. Yeah. No. We wish... Interesting. I wonder how they decided on that. I wonder who's, who got pitched and who was like, this is it. I mean, I've always, say, did leave an impression. It was Caddacow's 80th anniversary party, purely for its employees.

And they wanted to do something special, it was definitely special. It was special. It's not a memorable. That's so funny. It was, uh... You can write a novel about that, dude. Yeah, yeah. It sounds so bizarre. It was like, it was a natural fever dream. Yeah. Oh, man. I want to go to this. Yeah. I wish I could have gone. The heck, I'm stuck on a plane. Yeah. I feel like I always am stuck on a plane. I live on planes, I show. I don't want to tally up how long, how many flights, total hours I've done this year.

It will scare me if I look. Oh, really? Is it the most you've ever done? No, I don't even think so. Really? Yeah, but it feels like a lot. Because I swear last year you were like, I'm definitely not going to go on as many flights this next year.

Yeah, but you know, you agree to things in advance and you feel like, that doesn't sound that bad. That's how they get you. And then you do it. And then you're there and you're like, man, this sucks. Yeah, I remember saying that. the same thing last year. It didn't happen for me either. It didn't happen for you, Joey? Yeah, definitely less, I'd say. Yeah, I feel like you've done way less. Yeah, I did more jobs in Japan,

thankfully. Yeah. I did like the whole TGS thing and a bunch of other stuff as well. And I'm like, oh, this is so much fucking easy. But like a one hour domestic flight doesn't count. Oh yeah, no, no. The domestic flights are okay. You know, I rocked up to the gate like 20 minutes before. Yeah, yeah. It left. And I was like, this just doesn't feel like flying. This feels too easy. Yeah, it's like a shink onsen, basically. Yeah. Yeah. The only part that feels like flying is that, like, I don't know why this happens, no matter how long the flight is,

when there's, like, precisely about 40 minutes left, it's the longest 40 minutes. You know what I mean? No matter how long the flight is, the moment I see that it's 30 or 40 minutes until it says that we land. Yeah. For some reason, it's like time dilation kicks in.

You're like counting every second. It's like, why? And every time I look up, why, it's been one minute? I swear it's been five. That is true. It's true. It's not a big deal.

And the fight to get off the plane, there's always a fight. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. Other than I, I don't really care. I mean, you're too used to fly now, so it's whatever. Yeah. That's crazy, though, that party.

I wish you went. Did you take pictures? We weren't allowed to take pictures. Yeah, of course you went. The first thing they said, the first thing, there were like all signs around being like, do not take any pictures or video. So I was like, is there a lamb going to be sacrificed here?

What are the vibes there? We are we all pledging our allegiance to our mysticatakao here. Yeah, you must pledge loyalty and fealty to our lord. That's so interesting. That's interesting, though. Yeah, yeah. But I watched the Frankenstein movie. Which Frankenstein movie?

The new one. There's a new one? We don't know about the new Frankets? I don't know. I'm so out of touch with the modern. Gilmore D'Oro. Oh shit, is it good? Yeah, very good, very good.

I mean, if it's Deltoro, anything he touches. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it came out of cinemas and Netflix. Oh, shit, two and a half hours down. Did you watch Frankenstein movie, Jerry? Yeah, the new one. What, I feel like Acky would have been all over this. That sounds like peak Aki movie. I didn't even know it existed.

Oh, it's Deltore. Yeah, Deltore. Oh, shit. Just released it. Two and a half hours. Very good. Two and a half hours? Highly recommend it. Holy fuck.

Yeah, sticks to the book. quite well, yeah, I recommend it. Okay, yeah. Really, really cool, really good take on it. I'm down. Fantastic. It's very beautiful. Great music, great acting.

All solid eight out of ten, I would say. Oh, I mean, yeah, it's Dol Torah. Like, you can't go wrong with Del Torre, I feel. How'd you find out about these movies? Just keep up to date. Where'd you keep up today? Genuinely, it's more like, it's weird. People tell me as well.

Right. I talk to people and they're like, are you going to watch these things coming out? I was like, right? I feel like that person for me is you. Well, I'm like, you know now. Yeah. Like, you tell me most of the movies that are coming out. Because, like, in terms of, like, advertisements, this just is not within...

It's so weird being on the internet bubble where you are feds, like, ads that are specifically tailored to you, I guess. And this just doesn't... Shit, like, new movies just don't appear anywhere in, like, my... Well, because we also live in Japan, so I think we get a lot of targeted advertising is a bit weird. often isn't aimed at us. Yeah. We get like pretty quite weird ads, to be honest.

Yeah. Because I think they're like, who the fuck is this person? Like, why do they... What ads do you guys normally get? I don't know. I don't know. Do you know what's weird?

What? Like, going on someone else's phone or account, for some reason, like sometimes they get Sydney's phone and just going on their like YouTube homepage and being like, oh, this is like a totally different world now.

Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? Oh, yeah, yeah. It's like, oh, like you're at a friend's place and you're on the TV, they have like the YouTube ad. Yeah, yeah. On the YouTube app. And you're just like, what the fuck are these videos? Yeah.

I've never seen any of these videos. It's like going into like a stranger's house or something. You're like, what? This is, this is what I thought we had some life. Like, everything seems familiar, but it's different. Or I went to this hotel, they had a, uh, I was gonna Airbnb kind of style. Yeah. And they had a really nice, modern TV, massive.

Yeah. I went on the YouTube. And it was literally just Italian brainwrest. It's in Japan. Italian brain rock and 10-hour low-fi fireplace videos. That was it. It was the only two things that came up. Nothing else.

The iconomy. The Italian brain rock was in Japanese, too. Oh, Japanese Italian brain rock? It was a Japanese video of the Italian brain rock. Yeah, it's really weird. So I was like, there's like, what's going on? Who's staying here? Because they had a permanent account logged in.

Yeah. I didn't sign out of that. I just watched videos on their account. Right. I don't know who it is. The weirdest thing is whenever you go to like a hotel or something and it's a blank account and you see, you go on like the general YouTube homepage and you're like, what the fuck is this? Why does this have a hundred million views and I've never heard of this before?

That's like the weirdest feeling of all time. What's your YouTube homepage like? I don't know. I can open it like now. Shall we compare YouTube homepages? Sure. Okay. Okay.

My one is, let's all swap phones. Okay. All right. Okay. Let's see how much we have in common with each other. All right. All right. All right.

All right. Okay. So gone is the new Epstein files just dropped. Conner's one is, why did the 1945 Japanese army coup against the emperor fail? That sounds like my recommended. Joey is, Danny Brown talks to me.

Anthony Fantano. And then the next one is rabies, the most deadly virus. And you're watching. And then I guess this is Gantz, right? Why is Japan so rich is the next one? And then microplastics in your brain? Yeah, that sounds like me. That's science show.

How much worse can home prices possibly get? That sounds like me too. Okay. Oh, this is so different, dude. I'm gonna scroll down. I'm gonna keep scroll. How long does it take you to scroll down before you find a creator that you also watch? Let's rank extreme stellar objects by

habitability. Oh, yeah. It's this God. It's like an alien on the thumbnail. What the fuck is the Chris Pratt breaking the parks and recast for five minutes. Lots of AI. Chinese cat mistakenly shipped to America. Bro, I'm...

Oh, you watch this guy too? Chris Spargo who does these videos about very niche British things. Oh, like Tom Scott style. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Like, I'm scrolling down, Joey. And I've not hit a creator that.

I have in common yet. Me and God have a kind of a lot of overlap here. Yeah, yeah. Bro, what the fuck, Joey? How long do I have to scroll down? How long do you scroll down, Joe? It's so funny. I mean, I'm still scrolling,

and I don't know a single one of these people. Oh, there's a couple of Asian bosses. I found the first content creator, me and Joey have in common. Who? It's trashed. It's trashed. Of course.

Oh my God. this is so weird. No wonder companies have so much fucking data about us because I'm like, Joey, I thought I knew Joey as a person, but scrolling down his, this is so weird, scrolling down his YouTube recommended is almost like learning a different aspect of Joey that I just didn't know. Yours is like 90% science, Garne. It is. I'm very much into science. Yeah, Connor, yours is like 90% like geopolitical shit. I like geopolitical. I like, I am. I haven't been asked, Joey. I'm gonna ask this. There is a lot more V-Tuber content.

Dude, recommended here. Bro, V-Tuber clips do not fucking leave my feed no matter what. I hate it. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah, you hated Joe? You hated? You hate it? Dude, I literally don't watch any of these people. Why do they keep fucking showing up? This video's 11K views. Why is it in my feed? Oh, you have to like, I've clicked. Do I have to do the not interested thing? Okay, that's probably why. Because I don't watch any of these people. I've had to click not interested in shorts every single time. Yeah.

You still keep showing me shorts. Yeah. Oh, it's so weird. I was like, huh, hmm. Joey says he doesn't watch you V-tubers. I definitely know. Every other half video is a V-tube. They keep fucking bringing it off.

The algorithm doesn't lie. It's like, you're an anime. Would they see my account name probably? And they're like, you're into this shit, aren't you? You slide, though. You slide, though. We see the word anime in your name. You love this shit, don't lie.

Yeah, because it's, yeah, it's... Every time I log on to Sydney's one, it's just like, half of it's like, it is like true crime and the other half is like slop internet drama videos. Yeah, Arkes is like police cam videos. Oh, God. But if you watch one of those, YouTube is like, br-r-oh- Yeah, they give you it every single time. That's just infinite content for this police cam videos. For sure.

Yeah. I noticed that a lot about shorts especially. You watch one short and somehow the next like 10 shorts are of that same topic. Oh, yeah. They're like, oh my God. It's so obvious. If you click on one thing, it's like, yeah. If I click World War II stuff,

it will only build World War II my recommendation for the next two weeks. I'm like, okay, the one video I read seemed kind of fascinating. I'm not... I don't want that much. I already watched all of this twice. So I'm good. I know everything about it already. I'm already locked in.

But yeah, I'm still watching the F1 stuff. I've been getting more into it. Oh, yeah? I watch a lot of F1. It's so good. Yeah. It's so good. The Drive to Survive is so good. I'm nearly done. I'm on the final season. You're on the final season. And then I can finally look at spoilers of what's going on.

Spoilers. Yeah. There was, I don't know. Do you, you keep up with F1 a little bit, right? No, no, no. Oh my God, dude. I wish I did.

I want to get into like more sports, you know, because I feel like... It's so good. F1 is amazing. It's so... I'm excited to watch it not through the drive

to survive, like, angle. Yeah. Because they like shape moments in it so precisely you can tell of since it's edited and it's so much footage cut down.

Yeah. And there's one really big moment where like, and I really was wondering, and I'd love to know from the viewers, because I know there are a lot of F1 fans who watch Trash Taste. This is a moment. Do you mind if I spoil 2021 F1? Go for it, okay.

So there's this moment where it's literally like neck and neck between the two goats at the time. Lewis Hamilton has won for like seven years in a row. And he's like undisputed the goat. Mercedes keeps winning everything. Yeah. And this year Mercedes is going to win the cup

for like there's two cups that you can win you can win as an individual but the race points that you get as an individual and as a team because each team has two drivers. Yeah. And Mercedes had already won the team one. But it was like neck and neck. And going into the final race,

they had equal points Max Verstappen from Red Bull and Lewis Hamilton from Mercedes. And so this race happens and it's going on and Lewis Hamilton's like kind of in the lead the entire time and Max is right behind him. But then I think I can't remember what exactly happens he falls behind. But they stop the race at one point

because safety cars, the accidents happen. And so, you know, they stop it. Normally what happens, all the cars are kind of then bunch up. They all kind of catch up to each other.

They all line up again. And because Lewis had overtaken some of these guys that he was ahead of some people who had been lapped. And then Max was like here. And for some reason, they moved his car up.

They were like, well, it's not fair of him. it's not going to be exciting because he can't, he can't ever take them in time. It's like two laps left. So they just move him in front of the people that he hasn't lapped yet. Right.

And this was like incredibly controversial because what happens happening is that Max ends up ever taking Lewis and wins the world championship. And it's like incredibly controversial that this happened because everyone was like, he got robbed. And in the show, when I'm watching it, it really makes, like, the impression I got,

like, I really felt watching it that, like, Lewis got robbed. Like, I felt like the way. I don't know. But then again, I'm like, am I a victim to good editing? Because I feel like I'm a victim of good editing here. Like, I'm being told a story and the story that I'm trying to say is that like, it was a little fucky-wucky the rules that allowed him to clinch the victory. Yeah. And I'm just watching this and I'm like, I want to watch it live so that I can make my own interpretation of just watching a race and just seeing what happens. Because I'm like,

I'm watching this thing and I really feel like I'm being fed something. Yeah. I don't know. But it's like, this is the day and it. This is like now, like living this year, right? His general is like, you're like, I'm being told a narrative. I don't know if I know if I have all the pieces, but I know so it's not. I need to see from all the angles. Luckily, it's, you know, sports. Yeah.

Which controversies in sports are like there since the beginning of time. And honestly, I think, you know, there are some controversies in sports, especially when it comes to sports results, depending on whatever the rules were at the time, where I'm like this, to me, almost the stories like this almost make the sport more interesting in some ways, you know? Apparently when it happened on the F1 Reddit, the thread about it had like 400,000 comments or something.

Jesus. Oh my God. Yeah, it was something like that. I don't know if it's that amount, but it was like a crazy controversial thing. Yeah. It was really cool to watch in the edited video, even like four years later.

Yeah. It was really cool. But yeah, I agree. I think controversy, and they fully lead into that. I mean, this TV show is just reality TV. Yeah, yeah. But they have like unrestricted. Like, it's so mind-blowing to me.

How much money is in this sport? But then also, like, they'll be like firing guys on the show. Like, they'll fire their driver. And they'll have audio of this meeting. Like, they have the audio of the meeting of them being like, sorry, we're not going to renew your contract. You're like, this is crazy. Like, if I was in this industry, I would feel it like, like, And maybe this is my lack of, like, being in it.

But like, holy shit, I would feel so uncomfortable doing this speech on air, knowing that it's going to be absolutely fucking, like, ridiculed and ripped apart. And the decision is going to be framed in a certain way. They have so much access. It's crazy. Like, every moment is filmed or recorded in some way. Yeah. Somehow they'll, like, they'll, like, and they'll have calls between, like, and I, like, one of the teams,

they constantly have audio of the, the guy who runs the team, the guy who owns the team. Yeah. And there's always moments where it's the Haas team, too, I'm watching. He's like, he calls that. He calls like the guy who owns it, Gene Huss. He's like, sorry, sorry, Gene. Today didn't go so great. But, you know, next time we'll do it. I think maybe we need to drive a change. All this is captured. Like, this phone calls. And I'm like, this is not supposed to be a private phone call. Yeah, I feel like the amount of access we have is like incredible. It's really cool. And that's why I think one of the reasons why the show has been so popular and has gotten so many people into F1, me included. And I really want to go and watch F1 now and watch the races live. Yeah. But like, I've never seen like, like this level of access in any of the sport. Like, like football, right? Like you always see these press conferences, but we never get to see the behind the,

the door's decisions like, behind the scenes. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think it's really, you know, I think shit like this is really interesting. Because like, you know, in terms of football, there was like a, like, there are some teams that are some periods where, you know, They, they, I don't know what shows it was, but I see clips on YouTube. It was a, Welcome to Sunderland was the big one. Right.

That was the big, the big one that kind of kicked off all the football docks. Yeah, because there's a lot of like footage now of just what the half-time, what the halftime team talks looks like. Yeah. And it's, it was like super interesting watching football for like so many years and being like, okay, they're going in for half-time. And you don't know what that team talk is like, you know, it's, and it almost, it definitely brings another angle of appreciation to just what these managers

do and what kind of egos they need to keep in check. And what a halftime team talk looks like. I think one of my favorite clips is I think it's Jason Marino, one of the goats, one of the goat managers. And I think it was

him managing Tottenham at the time. And he basically, at the halftime team talk, he tells his team, all right, You need to look out for this one player. This one player is going to play this exact play. Please, he is going to do it because he used to manage Man United.

So he says, this one player is going to do this one thing. Stop this player. Cuts the next shot and the player does the one thing because this team didn't stop it. And that's why Tottenham never won a cup. Not even Marino. Rino's clips are all really funny. If you've never seen this guy, he literally talks like a dictator. Yeah.

And he's incredibly competent at his job. But the vibe he gives off is like so intense. Yeah. But he's a great, great manager. Yeah, he is. I don't know if he still is. I don't keep up with football anymore. Yeah, I mean, I mean, he's a great, I mean, he is a great manager.

His results speak for themselves. And just a very entertaining personality as well. F1, there's also a Thai British driver as well. Oh, is there? if he's still in it, but he's in the season I'm watching right now. Oh, shit. Okay. Every time I see him, every time he, like, he, like, tells about his life story, I'm like,

it sounds like, sounds like, oh. Not every Thai person is gone. No, but his life story, obviously, growing up in the UK, being in Thai family. Oh, I see, very, very, very, like, reminiscent. Is he good? Uh, no. But here's the thing, right?

When you watch the show, the show is so good at making you feel like the goats are so fucking good at driving. Right. And then the guys who are like lower in the league are like, they're wash. But like these are all like the fucking best people at this in the world. They're all incredibly talented. It's like depending on which team you're on really makes or breaks sometimes how you perform. Like sometimes some of the cars are just better. And that's the thing I really want to learn more about because like it's so hard watching the show to understand how different the cars are. Like I have no frame of reference for why someone's car is better and why it isn't and like why is the engine better or the wheels better or yeah like i don't know like there's

no like quantifiable thing like their car is better right yeah it's so interesting but the thing like like you mentioned with the football and the docs i really like those documentaries because you get to follow one team and you get to follow their story yeah and the one thing that i really like by the f1 thing is that you literally get to follow all the teams all of their private things and so they can really cut in these really interesting narratives and you can you can see how creatively they make these storylines because it's like they get this behind the scenes of this team and they don't don't know that it's actually going to work perfectly with the behind the scenes of this team because they've said something that works perfectly to form this really cool so it's not just like

one-sided like no you get all the angles at the same time it's really cool because once they'll often tell the stories not in the order so you'll sometimes hear a story of like maybe the first episode to be from race 15 of Ferrari yeah because that was a notable story and then they'll tell you of team for other team so it's really cool highly recommend if you haven't watched it already this is me just trying to pitch you on it's so good i've been having uh it's one of the best like i guess pretty my favorite reality TV show I've ever watched, I guess. Actual really. It's very half documentary, half reality.

I think it starts out as a doc and very much becomes reality TV. Right. It sounds very, at least you're not watching just reality slop TV. You know, at least you're watching. I think it was meant to be a doc, but then they realized the potential goldmine of making you half dark, half reality. I don't know what other people think, because I've literally not spoke to anyone about this and my feelings on the show,

but it feels like a reality TV show. Right, right. But it's been, like any good reality TV show, it's great at getting people who don't know anything about F1, me, into the show. And I'm fully invested now. I can't wait to go. I'm so sad,

because when I was doing a cyclathon two years ago, I got invited by McLaren go and watch the Suzuki F1. But I was like, I don't really care about F1 and I'm also cycling, so have fun. I'm kicking yourself now. I'm kicking myself. Because that sounds so sick now.

I would love to go to that race. That's, I, Connor! It's like the Aaron meme. It's like, Connor! Or like the Walter White in the car. No! You didn't know! You were gonna like this!

Yeah, I don't know. F1 to me has always been like a very tall ceiling because it's like, I don't personally really care about cars. I don't personally really care about sports in general. Me? Kind of neither? Yeah, I don't know. I think this is a very strong vehicle. I'm changing your mind on it.

Okay, okay. It's really, really good. If you want to watch a easy show, I recommend it. You don't care about sports? I love sports, man. Not particularly, no. I mean, like, I didn't really grow up. I mean, I did a couple sports growing up,

but, like, household wasn't really, like, a sports household necessarily. I mean, like, my dad would watch, like, the cricket. I think to enjoy sports is to enjoy stories. Yeah, it's for all right. That is just stories. That is it. And having a team to support as well, I think, brings a lot. Yeah.

I guess so. just because you have that, like, emotional investment as well. And, you know, you can watch as a spectator, but a lot of the times if you watch as a spectator, you, number one, needs to know enough to appreciate the storylines behind it. And number two, maybe need to know a bit more of, like, the technicalities of, like, how the sport goes. If you just have the team to support, you can be like,

you're on my team one. Go them. Go, yeah, go them. And then you're like, oh, we suck. But at least you have a, at least you have fellow fans who, You can say that we suck together. I mean, you've probably watched movies about sports you don't care about. There's pretty like a, like I watch like Moneyball.

Great movie. You don't have seen it with Brad Pitt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've seen Moneyball, yeah. It's a great movie, right? Yeah, it's a good movie. I don't care about baseball, really, but I like stories. And I think sports are an incredibly human vehicle of telling stories.

It's so like, it's all about human struggle, personal. There's no fantasy element to it. It's like, yeah, yeah. Like, can the human, you know, like, can they overcome? the odds and do the thing. And moneyball's like a cool thing of like something I think we all, everyone loves to see. Don't get me wrong. Like, you know, I love the human storytelling aspect of sports. Like, you know, the whole reason why like slam dunk is one of my favorite monger of all time. That's as fucking human as it gets. But like the reason why I liked things like

slam dunk was because I also liked basketball all the time. Yeah. Like quite a lot. So like for me, it's like, it's not so much about like getting into the sport because of the medium. It's the other way around for me. I see. I like the sport. Therefore, I'm into the medium that's about the sport. I started fucking with horse racing after Umu Musameh. Because I thought it was actually legitimately, it's kind of cool. Some of the stories where the handle horses are so safe. No, no, I like, I like Umamusama, but it was never enough for me to get into the sport. Yeah. Well, I mean, I haven't watched a lot, but just, I really enjoyed hearing the stories and like the prestige and all the, yeah, the thought process behind a lot of the, especially the Japanese side

is really interesting. Yeah. I don't know. I've always leaned more towards like, just straight up fiction as opposed to nonfiction. I don't know why. Fair enough. Yeah. Maybe you're not. Just a me thing. You don't enjoy the real world.

Maybe. I don't know. I'm bored with this reality. I feel that. I feel that. Speaking of sport. The goat. Faker did it again.

Oh, did it again. We did it again. He did it again. Six times he's won. That's a goat. I'd sound on him. I thought like last year I was like, oh, he won again.

I'm so back. Actually, I'm actually like, he's just the goat. Yeah, it's actually cool to live and see that. Is there a, I'm wondering, is there like another athlete in their sport that has dominated as much as he has? I don't know why I thought Michael Jackson. They did like the music break versus the non-music break.

Michael Jordan, he's like the undisputed goat of basketball. Yeah, I know, but in terms of like how decorated they are, because I saw I saw that. I think so. Which is, I don't know, man, MJ's pretty decorated. Which is like, I think Faker has won 60% of all. the world championships. No, it's been 15, he's won six. I think Korea's won, 60%.

Was it 60% finals? He's made 60% of the finals in the world championship. I think that's right. Yeah. Which is like in fucking sane if you think about it. Yeah.

He has been in 60% of the world finals that has ever existed. Yeah, it's, I mean, it is like, that's pretty crazy. I think it's, you know, when you see the goats of a sport, it's so easy to be like,

wow, man, they're fucking the same guy. But then, like, I think when you go to appreciate what's happening in front of you, like the legacy that's being made and the impact, it's just, I don't know, it's so cool to watch. It's so cool to watch someone just be the undisputed goat of something. Yeah, for sure, yeah. Because would you even say MJ is the undisputed goat?

Yeah, he is. He's pretty up there. Emj is the undisputed goat of basketball. I mean, he's up there, but I'm sure a lot of basketball fans would have a debate, you know, Grock. Grock, back me the fuck up here. I don't know enough of basketball, but I know Pete.

Let me ask Pete, right. Let me call Pete up. He loves basketball. Let's call Pete up. Is he the undisputed goats that everyone would agree? Because everyone... There's a lot of undisputed goats. Let me call him.

Let me call him. You know, there's a fucking Steph Curry. I'm just naming basketball players. Yeah, but like, like, goat is all time. I'm saying MJ is one of the greatest. But is he the unconstitutional. undisputed goat, you know. Well, that depends on who you ask, I feel.

Yeah, yeah. People know. He loves me. Because I'm saying faker, like, undeniably, there is not a single league fan that would ever even come close to debating you. Right. Yeah, it's new. Yeah, it is new.

That's true. That's true. In 10, 20 years time, there might be another faker or someone who is better than faker after you retire. You don't know. Still ringing. Still ringing. Still ringing.

He'll pick up. He'll pick up. Cope. They're taking care of his kid. Don't worry about it. Yeah. He has more important. Yeah, he's a dad now.

He'll call. He'll call. He'll call. He'll call back. Got a question. Hey, boss, what's up? I don't even have to say the fucking thing. Okay, super quick question.

We were having the sports discussion, and I said that MJ is the goat of basketball. Like the undisputed goat. Is he the undisputed goat or is he not the undisputed? He is definitely disputed. Oh, shit. Oh, that's what I said. That's what I said. I thought he was the understudent.

disputed goat. Okay, look, I think that the biggest question in basketball is that discussion. Oh, is it really? Well, I mean, it's like some people ride or die with Michael Jordan. They'll say he's the undisputed goat. Others will say, are you crazy? LeBron James is the greatest man. That's what I said.

That's what I said. I said. I said, LeBron. Yeah. That's fair enough. And I'm not here to make the call. I'm just saying that it's the most thought of going to any sports place. because that discussion rages on for eternity.

Well, I wasn't aware of this as a white ball with no ball game. But I'm glad. Thank you for enlightening me, because I know you do know this stuff. You called the other white guy. Wow. Well, this white boy knows ball. Yeah, he's on motion. Wow.

So when I say, Conno's like, God, you don't know basketball. Oh, no. Let me call Pete. Let me call Pete. He knows. He knows ball. Hey, you know what?

The fact that you can name both players, I'm proud of you both. but you will find people arguing this forever. And it's such a fun argument to be had because they're both extremely good players. So it's fun. Yeah. Thanks for enlightening us.

Sorry for taking up some time. Appreciate you. No, it's all good, guys. Have a good one. Bye. Bye. See ya. Well, there you go.

Disputed. I was wrong. Connor, you're a fucking idiot. Again, I don't know. I don't know enough about this sport or most sports to be like, yeah, there is one undisputed champion. of this particular sport.

I can just easier because the league is new. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like the first go, you know. That's true. Yeah. But, you know, it doesn't... Because there's probably recently bias as well, right?

Like, I'm sure a lot of people say, like, oh, in track and field, like, Usain Bolt is like fucking broken multiple records and... I mean, if you hold the world record of the track day, I think you are the go. I mean, you're the goal until your record is beaten. Yeah, but like... Also, Usain Bolt did that, like, nearly 20 years ago. Yeah. Not being beaten by, in 20 years in a track and field event is a long time.

Shit, is he still the world record holder? No one's beaten his time at the sprint. He's the goat. I think does he still hold the 200? I think so might have beat him in 200, but he still holds the 100. Yeah, yeah. And it's like, I think it's like not close. Like I think there's a little, like, in terms of the sprint.

Yeah. He still holds the 200 and 100. 200 and the four times 100 meter relay. God damn. He's the guy. I think like that's why we don't know about like, and I know obviously we, you know, maybe you are familiar with the current number one of the world.

It's the, I forgot his name. But like, you remember his name if he's the world record and he's undefeated, you know, because he's the fastest. Noah Liles, I think is the current one recently. Yeah, no, O'Liles. Yeah. The Uyghur guy. Yeah, that's not.

Yeah, that's not. And he's obviously extremely talented, but it's like, you know, you can't be the goat unless you beat you same ball. Yeah. That's the thing about, you know, Olympic stuff. there is a world record there. Yeah, but it's also like the cool thing about the Olympics and when these records do stand for so long

is that, you know, the Olympics is like, obviously the cutting edge and there's so many improvements in technology as well as training. And it's like, to have a record stand that long is like seriously impressive. Yeah. It's so cool to see records. I always find it interesting when someone,

because, you know, someone, you know, growing up in video games, you're used to like video game terminology and stuff like. that. But, you know, getting into like traditional sports, it's always interesting to see what the history of like traditional sports and how sometimes you have an athlete that comes along that just completely breaks the rules. Yeah. Yeah. The breaks the rules of that traditional like the javelin guy. I always forget his name. It was like an entire documentary about this guy where like he was the just the most goaded javelin throw in the Olympics that they made several new rules in the Olympics just to keep up with how far this fuck you could throw.

I always forget his name. But he's like the goat of javelin throws. Or like the guy who invented the modern high jump technique. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think the triple jump is still undefeated from like 40 years ago, is it? Can we triple jump record? I think it is a British guy did it a long time ago and just did this legendary jump. Oh, yeah.

18.29 meters. Yeah. Jesus Christ. He did it in 1995. Holy shit. Nobody's beaten it since. Have you ever tried to do triple jump? It's so hard.

It's so hard. Wait, did you have to do it in school? Yeah, yeah, for like sports day and stuff. And there was always, there was maybe like two or three. Because, you know, I don't know about your guys, but like sports day in Australia was always voluntary. So it's like, okay, we're gonna do the year 12 triple jump, whoever wants to compete, come down kind of thing. Oh, no, we had to like, we had like houses and we had to elect two people from each house to do it. Oh, really?

Yeah. Yeah, we had houses as well, but it was completely voluntary if you wanted to do it or not. Oh, but could, was there a limit to how many you could do? No. We were like limited. Like, you couldn't just send the goat kid out to just win everything. Oh, we did. Yeah.

Whenever it was like, high jump, it'd just be like, all right, he's the best. He's going to be there. I would be like 100 meter. Who's the fastest? They put him on that. Yeah, yeah. Who's the fastest? Oh, same guy.

Okay. And then that would be his done. You get to. And then you get to the sports like the disc toss. You'd be like, yeah. And then they had to. Everyone had to do too. Oh, really?

Everyone had to do two. Yeah, yeah. I feel like there is no more, there's no better track. field like, you know, thing that makes you feel more uncoordinated than the triple jump. Yeah. Yeah, it's a tough. It's like the long jump, that's fucking easy. Just run. Just run and jump. A triple jump, you're just, the rhythm always like threw me off. Yeah, yeah. Right. You're always just like stumbling. Yeah. By the end of it and then it's like, oh, two meters. I don't understand what the history of the triple jump is. Why? I'm sure there's a three-hour

documentary on YouTube somewhere breaking it down. I'm like long jump, that makes sense. Why triple jump? Why? Fuck, I don't know. Are obscure, but it may be related to the ancient children's game of hopscotch. Damn. That's so cool. It's been in the Olympic Games.

Wow. Okay. I guess it is just competitive hopscotch. Yeah, someone looks at hopscotch and was like, we can go further. I mean, it is cool. It's cool, you know. That's one of those sports where I'm like, how do you, how do you get into that? Like, how do you start, like, another one where I'm just, is Paul Vault.

School. You just try. Because I had the option to try pole vault. In school? No, I went to athletics outside of school. Oh, I see. And they had a pole vault. And like, if you want to do something,

you just had to like ask and wait, maybe for that to be ruined, but you would just do it. How do you begin to get good at pole volleying? I guess it just feels like, someone trains you. It just feels like one of those sports where it's like, how do you, how do I even start?

I'm sure you do over and over the technique. Yeah. Like, they're like, okay, there. And then they have people who put the mats. So even if you're like, you go up for it and fall back down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Like, I get it in theory, but in practice, I'm just like, I look at that and I'm just like, how? I really wish I did it. It seems so fun. It seems scary. I want to do it, man. It seems fun. I've seen too many pole bolt accident videos or I'm just like, mm-mm.

I'm getting. What you mean like the one where they snap or? The snap or like, you know, they go up and then they just land directly on the pole as it's coming down. Like, it just doesn't seem fun. Love of the game. Yeah. Love of the game, I guess, yeah.

I mean, it's not exactly the most dangerous sport compared to like some of the others, I would say. Like what? I don't know. I've always been scared of like fucking discus or something, just having that much weight in your hands. Like I'm like, yeah, I don't know. I'm like, if I fuck up this technique, I could kill someone or like javelin, you know? When you're a kid, like, it's so hard to like pull a muscle or fuck, you just kind of throw things. Yeah, exactly. As a kid you don't mind, but as an adult, I'm like, oh, God, with a shot pot, I'm like, fuck. Yeah. I'm going to pull my neck out. Yeah. I had to throw the tungsten cube for Ludwig's thing, like two years ago.

Oh yeah? And I was like gonna shop put it, like a normal shopper. Yeah. When I put it in my neck, it was a cube. And I was like, wait. The corner was just sticking in.

I was like, wait, doesn't fucking work. And also, it's way too heavy. Yeah. It was like triple the weight of a shot put. And I was like, I can't do the spin. Yeah. So I just had to like just fucking throw it like that. Yeah.

It was ridiculous. And I think I did like that. Yeah, yeah. I was like, this is shit. This is such a fucking stupid idea. And also it's super, it would have been super easy to cut myself.

Oh, yeah, yeah. With the cubes, it was so sharp. Totally. Never do a cube toss. A lot of bollocks. That's probably why it's not an Olympic sport. Yeah, true, true.

All right. Yeah, I don't know. I just see a lot of these. Maybe it's because I was always just shit at these track and field sports. Like, the only one I was really good at was high jump and long jump. But that's easy to explain. Yeah.

Yeah. Also, I'm tall. So it helps. But I just looked at like, especially like triple jump or like pole vault or any of those. And I'm just like, how do I even. start. Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah, I think you just have to get into like athletics clubs and they they'll like, you know, coach you basically. Yeah. It's like you just have to go to them. Fair enough. But they're not always available or nearby, right? So I think a lot of the sports like,

I would have loved to have tried fencing, but I just was not in a socioeconomic area where that was an option to me, you know? That's fair. And like maybe there was one dedicated club, but I didn't know about it, you know? So it's just like, there's certain sports like horse racing. Like if you're not equestrian. Yeah. If you're not. Yeah. If you're not. not born into like royalty, you know, an extremely wealthy family. That sport doesn't exist in your life. Oh, totally. Yeah. Because I think Pete was asking me about that. He because he was like, you know, he's like, oh, you know, do British people care about horse jumping or racing? I was like, not really. It's not a sport that anyone really gets to be or participate or watch.

Yeah. It's not really televised except for the really big competitions. Yeah. And then I think people just like to see the British people win. But I don't think people like actually know the rules or know how works really. Yeah. It's a very like privileged sport. So people like football. Okay, if you could hypothetical question, if you could be the goat at one sport. Like nobody even stands a chance. Like no one stands the shit. Like if you could be the faker of any sport, what would it be? Like one that you could see yourself like if you put if you could redo your life from as a child and you could dedicate yourself to like one sport that you know you'll be. be into and you know you'll be good at, and you could end up being the goat at that sport.

Shooting. Shooting? You just want to be the Turkish, dude. It just seems like it is a versatile skill set. You have a lot of backup options. If you have the goat aim, I'm sure there's work. I'm sure there's always work. There's always someone who needs a good shot.

It's like, Connor, we need you to take someone out real quick. It's like, I'm in a competition right now. I'll be there in 10. Like just understanding like bullet drop and topography. in the Earth's rotation. I'd be like, yeah, okay. Like the physics of it.

I think I got it. Walk up with my t-shirt. God, what would it be? If you could redo your life and be the undisputed goat at a sport. Undisputed goat at a sport.

I'd want it to be one of the really weird ones. Yeah, I mean, if you're like the goat of like extreme football or something, just kind of your life is that and you have no other options. I'd like to be the goat at something.

You say that like it's a bad thing. If you're the goat at football, you are a multi-millionaire. MJ, MJ doesn't play basketball anymore. He plays golf. He does, yeah. He plays baseball for a little. He's not, like, he's done his time. What if I want to do my time and be done?

But they'll always know me as the guy. Well, that's same of like MJ. I'd like to walk away. Have you not seen Space Jam? It's a great movie. It's a great movie. And remember when they clown on him for, you know, giving up basketball to do baseball or whatever?

Yeah, he did baseball. Yeah, yeah. Remember that plot line? Not very good at baseball. Yeah. Yeah. You know, just because you're the goat in one sport, doesn't mean you're the goat in multiple sports.

Pete told me there was a conspiracy theory about that about him, why he did baseball. Yeah. And I didn't know if there's any truth this, but I'll just repeat a random rumor that Okay, okay. Okay. The rumor goes was that, you know, because MJ famously enjoyed a good gambah. Yeah. They enjoyed sidebats with his friends and whatnot.

So there's a conspiracy theory that he was forced to stop playing basketball, like under the, under the table, because he did some kind of betting stuff that he pretty shouldn't have done. Oh. And so he was like, I'll just go into baseball then for a year or two. And then he was like, this isn't working out. Can I go back to basketball fees? He did not work out. But he was the goat and came back and won again.

So he's, he's, he's worth a trillion dollars because of his shoes. Oh my God, the other shoes are cool. Can I see, Shohai, Utani, just pick up basketball randomly as well. Let me know down if it was true. Yeah, I mean, Otani is the the goat girl. of, like that, I mean, they say that he might be the greatest player who's ever lived. I think so, yeah. The stuff he's done is pretty crazy.

Yeah. Because up until that point, it was what, Babe Ruth, right? Yeah, yeah. But he didn't pitch and I don't think he pitched. I could be actually wrong. I don't know. I'm not for him of baseball. This is where when he peaked come on and Pete knows all of this law.

We should have asked this on the P episode. We should have. He knows literally everything about this stuff. He is an absolute lover of sports through and through. He lost everything about. about sports. It's fun going to talk to him, because he'll tell, it's like, listen to your grandpa, tell the stories around the campfire. He's like, let me tell you the stories about Babe Ruth. I was like, okay. Yeah, he tells the stories as if he was there.

But that's the best of great storyteller. Yeah. Great storyteller knows. That's why he's to go to. Have you ever thought about what, like, moments in your life that, you know, the younger generation are going to ask about being like, oh, you, you, you were there to experience this? 9-11. You weren't there. I was available. Do you think they were, they're going to ask us about? about like the fucking lockdown COVID thing? Oh, 100%.

No, no, I don't think so. You don't think so? No, because did you ask your fucking granddad about Spanish flu in 1930? No, you didn't fucking care. It was a footnote in history. Yeah, but he wasn't in fucking Spain at that time. No, it was Spanish flu went everywhere.

Oh, yeah, but I mean, like it wasn't, I don't know, I wasn't there during the space. I feel like if anything you would ask, I could have been wrong about that. I feel like you would ask about the most prevalent history that happened at that time, which might not have happened yet for us. Uh-huh. Which is a scary thought.

I reckon they'll ask us about like the beginning of the internet. Yeah, I think that actually, yeah, that would be cool. Like, have you, have you ever had to make shit up? Yeah. Yeah, being like, dad, it's like, grandad, can you tell us about this MSN thing you speak of? They want to know MSN. This Skype thing you speak of. What was that?

Like outside of 9-11, have you ever had a moment? Right out of context. Outside of 9-11, have you ever had a moment where you were just like, damn, I'm like living through history right now? You know when you have some moments when you're like, damn, whatever I'm witnessing now, this is like a historical moment. Because I just imagine what it was like just being at home and being like our grandparents' age and just witnessing like the first moon landing. Oh, that would have been so cool.

Just imagine that feeling, man. Yeah. And I'm just thinking, damn, do we have a moment like that in our lives? Where we have like a shared collective, yo, this is history being made. I don't know, man. I guess we're going to wait for Elon to land on Mars first. I feel that'll be pretty big whenever it happens. Yeah, I think they'll look back at this time.

I think we'll have lived through a time people are going to talk about. Yeah, I definitely think the beginning of the internet is going to be one thing, wherever it is in the next 50 to 100 years. You can be like, Mom, Dad, what was a chat GPT like when it first dropped? What was that like? Tell me that time you first met GROC. How did the internet reply? It was like, how did you do anything without the internet?

What are these books you speak of? I think bucks will be popular. Oh, yeah. Books are going to make a comeback if it hasn't already. I already have. Not that it ever fell off. Books kind of worked. Reading.

Loki. Reading kind of fell off. I think people are going to ask about the pandemic. Maybe. I think a lot of people, especially which kind of sphere you're talking about, but talking about like the Anglo, Western world,

you know, you kind of talk it via like the or the prime minister at the time, right? Yeah. So I think that that won't change. And I think there's certainly a lot of stuff to talk about. Yeah. That has happened in this current era. There's a lot that's happened.

I feel like there's a lot to talk about. I mean, I feel like this modern era has just, it feels like you can't just lit it between post-COVID and pre-COVID. Maybe like indirectly, but just the whole vibe of the world has just changed indefinitely. I think that's because we lived through it. But because I, even now, I think people are like, like, they don't talk about it anymore. They don't talk about it, but you can feel the effects. I mean, inside fucking industries, I feel like have been made and have, like, become a permanent

mainstay of our lives because of course. And the entire generation of kids as well, like that went through that has changed. I think a lot of that will be oral history that happens later on where people who are older can talk about more of the totality of their life. And they can probably say, hey, look, like, when I lived through this thing, this thing changed everything. but on like on like history paper I wonder if it will it will reflect

because we often have a time like a thing that we do in history where we like to boil things down into like like if you do World War II for example you kind of look at the world through the lens of World War II and then you pick where it like kind of starts and where it kind of ends and you kind of look at everything as it correlates to that thing as opposed to like

this thing changed everything yeah I don't know like I think we're quite bad at like wanting to talk about history as a total thing because it's so long and messy. Yeah. So it's a lot easier to break it down.

Yeah. And I wonder if we will. I do wonder. I'd like to think we would, but I don't have a lot of hope. How different do you think the world would be if COVID never happened? And we just had another year of just whatever, you know? I think COVID accelerate a lot of things. Do you think it accelerated it or?

Yeah, I think it accelerated a lot of things. Like you think, okay, for example, you know, I think shit like Uber Eats or something, which is like now mainstain a lot of people's lives and just like, you know, Take away. Yeah. Do you think obviously COVID accelerated that, but do you think it would have gotten as big into the lives of as many people without it? I think so. I think so. Same thing with like, like, you know, obviously my industry, anime, you know, that got supercharged by COVID, where we've gotten the point where I would argue that anime is mainstream now. Would it have gotten that way if COVID didn't happen? Was it always dead? I think it would have happened eventually. But COVID just accelerated all of that. Yeah. Two, three years of COVID. Yeah.

Accelerated internet adoption and entertainment from the internet. Yeah. I think maybe by like 10, 15 years. I think it sped it up massively because, obviously, I'm sure you all remember, like, TV shows kind of, they were still coming out. But as we got into the first year, slowed down a lot. TV shows not being made as much. Movies weren't being made as much. People massively adopted live streaming, TikTok, YouTube, and went way deeper.

into that rabbit hole. And so I think that sped it up by like 10, 15 years. Yeah, yeah, for sure. And as somebody who's making content at that time, I mean, I noticed from all the growth and stuff that we had, obviously trash taste came out this time. Yeah. Yeah, it was massive. It was crazy. It was like views that should have never have been there. Yeah. started

happening and people getting really into anime and getting really into Japan and all this stuff. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, would not have happened otherwise. Well, because it's, it's interesting because I think about that because I think one of the big, one of the biggest generations that was affected was like the younger generation, right? Because as adults, we already have certain patterns and certain behaviors that we have learned from all the years that we were living. But I would argue that a lot of these newer industries that have cropped up, like, you know, live streamings, like anime and stuff, is a lot of the bigger numbers that we

have seen are numbers that were adopted by, you know, the younger generation that have now been become like an inbuilt pattern of just their daily life and they're going to grow up and now it's just going to become more and more popular because they already have that pattern of behavior in them as like a form of entertainment. And it makes me wonder if COVID didn't happen, would it have ever gotten as big? Because we were forced to be inside and use social media and kind of like adopt platforms like TikTok and other alternative routes for entertainment.

I think it would have happened but I think the growth would have just been more gradual. Right. Like as Connor said, like I think COVID, those three years that for a lot of people are now just a blur. Because most of the time we were just inside consuming content. I think that just sped up the dependence of the internet, not just in entertainment and, you know, relieving boredom, but also just like a way to communicate with other people. Right. And now you have a lot of the younger generation, especially those who were in, you know, elementary school all the way to high school or even college who went through that, you know, phase of being.

very isolated socially. Yeah. Who are now coming out of COVID and being like, oh, fuck, how do we do this without COVID or the internet? Like, how do we, how did we do this before COVID again? And so they're struggling through that now.

And it's really like, I don't know, I look at that and I feel, it's, I feel a lot of pity for that because I'm just like, oh man, like that just really fucked up

an entire generation, I feel. I wouldn't say it fucked up. I would say it just. It complicated matters. No, I mean, it was a big part of a lot of people's lives. And I think, um, I think especially those in like the most formative years, you know,

it sucks that they will never get those years back. Exactly. And, you know, I've heard some stories where people actually enjoyed the COVID years. I, I think, I think we view it as a, you know, comparing it to our years in, in, those like formative teenage years. But, um, hearing some stories like hearing, hearing some people who said that their school experience was just being on Zoom calls and they would just play video games.

Yeah, I'm not gonna fucking learn anything as a kid if I had my laptop in front of me. Yeah. It's not happening. Yeah. But also, that sounds fucking great. That would be some that would be some nice memories of me just being in a Zoom call. Because you would eventually, you would learn the things

and you would get them done because that's who you are. You know that you still need to learn these things and you'll do it. Yeah. And I think for kids like that, whatever, it probably didn't affect them much. But I guess kids that probably really needed that in-person support. Yeah, they needed that social aspect. Yeah, I'm sure it probably set them back quite a lot.

Yeah. And not everyone is fortunate where they just kind of get school and things are easy and things make sense. Yeah. You know, that's how it goes. Very unfortunate, really. Yeah. And it's insane that we've seen this much effect from like, basically like two years. Yeah.

Two years. I definitely noticed that people are like way more considerate of like, I suppose, like germs as a concept now than they were before. which I think is good Yeah Japan I feel like a little extreme sometimes I mean Japan was already extreme And I think like it took it to like another level a little bit

Yeah It's fine because you know it is what it is But I do hate the everything needs to be like quadruple wrapped in plastic still Oh yeah yeah I'm like I had a bento and it came in a plastic box And in the plastic wrapper came chopsticks in plastic And so I'm like Get my bento open the plastic

all right, get this plastic, and then get the chopsticks out of that plastic, and then in the Osce body, is it another plastic thing. And by the end of this, like, standard lunchbox, I had amassed a massive pile of garbage. Yeah. Like a standard little lunchbox. Yeah. I was like, what the f-oh.

I said, whatever happened with your fucking Ziploc? You're a fucking classic, the little pop-od off and get a spoon. Yeah. Like, what the hell? But, you know, it's, it's, like, such a minor complaint and really has no impact. But, yeah, yeah, definitely, yeah. Because it'll be like when you, you know, when you share a drink with someone, on. You're like, you want to try my beer? And I'll be like, don't worry. I touch this side.

Nothing that it matters. Or when we, you know, you grab food out of the center. Yeah. And sometimes in Japan, they give you a utensil specifically for getting. Yeah. And I'll just be like, I'll let you know, I don't give a fuck. You can use your for, you know. Yeah. I don't, whatever, man. We can make out. It'll be fine. But that's where, that's more familiar with each other. When you're like with a new party, you're like, oh, yeah, yeah, you can't do it. Yeah. Yeah. But to be fair, that, that whole thing is more of a cultural norm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Existed before. COVID. But yeah, it was definitely amplified further.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that was maybe a bad example, to be fair. But yeah, I got what you mean, though, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Definitely feels like there is a lot more consideration. I'm like, damn, where's our moon landing? We don't get no fucking moon landing. We're getting a shutdown, man. We get, we get lockdown and they get a, they get a fucking moon landing

and all this shit. Could have found, you know, you know what's weird? Just, like, I don't know if we mentioned this before, but it's just like, We had news, not even recently, but like a while ago, where we could have found aliens on Mars. Oh, the life on Mars thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, oh, you mean. The microbial. Yeah. Right. There was some signs of life. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Don't you think I should have been bigger news? Or is it because it wasn't like 100% confirmed confirmed? Oh, it's because it wasn't like fucking E.T. Grey alien shit. I mean, it was confirmed. There's life. It's just, it's just

not the life that we really give a fuck about. Yeah, exactly. If it was fucking alien and colony doing alien shit, we'd be like, whoa. There might have been a couple of people who, again, went through the COVID thing, looked at that and went like, oh, great, now we've got Mars COVID. Just to worry about, fuck. Microbes, it's like, that's, you know, they're 2000,

sorry, they're like 20 million years behind us on evolution. So it's like, not really, you know, it's whatever. I don't think it's going to make waves on flight like. It is cool if you like science. Yeah, yeah. I think it's fucking massive. It's massive. It is massive. But to the everyday person who, you know, we're in a

political system where as well, we can't even fucking think more than four years ahead or five years ahead, you know, like, you can't ask people to fucking care about something that doesn't affect them for 50 years. I'm just like, because it makes me wonder, what, what, is there an event that we would actually care about? Because I'm just like, if there was a, if we got to a point where asteroid hits Earth, we have like a month or something, would we care about that or would the average people, you know, what, let me tell you what would happen.

Yeah. They would try and find out immediately, where is it hitting? And because you will know where it's going to hit. No, no, no, no, no. Let me tell you what to happen. Okay. Because here's what I'm fucking convinced about where, you know, you can have the most earth-shattering news of all time and people will,

people will still care that it's a Tuesday and they need to go to work. Yeah. If there was an asteroid that was 100% coming towards Earth, people would look for, I mean, there would be new sources being like, nah, might not be. Well, they always talk about them as they're getting... They always talk about them as are getting close, but sometimes even, like, big ones that are projected to hit

and do some big damage, just happen to burn up. Yeah. So no one really cares. We don't even hear about it. No. Like, sometimes you see, like, a news story. Yeah. Yeah, sometimes you hear a new story, and you're like,

yeah, this asteroid that could have, you know, wiped out all life enough, just narrowly missed. And you hear that, like, two weeks after the fact there. If we can't do anything about it, is it really worth bringing up? like seriously like is it worth mass stressing like eight billion people because something might happen that we literally can't stop or do anything about yeah like if it was an asteroid that would destroyer yeah and entirely like wipe out life like what should right should i really like maybe

okay okay what i don't really want to know actually i don't want to know what is your apocalypse indicator per in personal life not personal life what is your what is your what is your what is your What is your indicator where you're like, hypothetically, you're like, shit, this is a serious thing. Because in the UK, it was pubs closing down. Right? That was the apocalypse indicator. COVID was pretty apocalyptic at times.

Yeah. But like, to mention the asteroid, right, when you're asking the question, I was like, okay, what about a scenario where, all right, you're in Japan right now? Yeah. And the asteroid is confirmed to hit, I don't know, let's say Chile. Chile's about to be hit. Okay.

Buy an asteroid. 100% chance and it will wipe out chili. Okay. But not the earth. But not the earth. Just chili. All right.

The blasts is very fluidical. So fucking honest with me. Do you think the news in the country you live would like, it would be a big deal? Yeah. But do you think they'd be like, doom ring freaking out about it? I think the fucked up part is that I think we'd be like, it's really bad for Chile. Anyway, so we got. Yeah.

Like I think it's, we're so. we only care as like a, either a global level or country level. We don't care if something happens to like another country that we don't live in. Like that's a sad truth. Yeah, it's only serious

if it's happening to you. Because COVID kind of, that was kind of what was happening with COVID. When that happened, they were like, it's on the China server only. We don't care. Yeah. And then it became globally like,

whoa, chill, chill, chill. No more flights from China. Yeah. It's like, you know, it was people didn't give a fuck and they were kind of like, murmuring about it. And they were like, oh, it could be bad. Yeah.

My dooms, my doomsday indicator will be, and I know this will be bad because this didn't even happen during COVID. Yeah. Is if I walk outside and all the corn buddies are closed. Oh, bro, that is like that is like that didn't even happen during COVID. Even during COVID they were like, no, we're keeping this bitch open. But if it's closed, I'm like, okay, something's up. What's going on here? Oh, that's because like in Japan, they're pretty much on top of this where sometimes I walk in and it's just like, oh, typhoon scheduled for like next week.

And you go into the supermarkets and all the water bottles are already gone. Yeah. So even then, I'm like, you know, if the combini is closed down, probably all the stuff is already taken out anyway. If it's closed or empty, that's where I'm like, oh shit.

Can we do something that might age well or horribly? Can we just predict what might be the next big disaster? Like, we all just take a turn picking something. The next big disaster? Like, you think it's going to be like another virus or do you think it's going to be an earthquake or it's going to be, I'm going to say it. I'm going to go for a fun one.

Yeah. I think it's going to be a famine. A famine? I think we're going to get a famine. Like a global famine or just like a country famine? Global famine or cause fucking chaos. Oh, yeah. Because look what happened when we had like an ounce of concern that maybe there might not be enough toilet roll.

Imagine if there is like a murmuring, there might not be enough food. Well, I mean, there was with like the potato shortage and shit like that, right? That happened in Japan last year. You remember that shit? Yeah, but again, that was like a food wide. I was like, if it's food wide. Oh, like all the food. We suddenly are low on a lot of food.

Right. Because I think it doesn't need to like move much for it to become a problem. Yeah. Like if everything becomes a shortage, I feel like people freak out real quick and it'll just become a mess. Realistically, I think it's going to be like a mega quake. For Japan? That'd be Japan specific, right?

No, but like a mega quake that creates like a chain reaction. Oh shit. Like a continental shift mega quays. Is that scientifically proven? Has that ever happened? I don't know if that's... Joey's making shit out of that. I don't know.

The mega quake. Mega quake sounds like... It might have happened during like the Pangea days. This sounds like a thing like Jason Statham has to stop in the fourth movie. This is a Roland Emmerich movie. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's like Day after tomorrow. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The mega quake is coming. Like an independent. We got to build an arc. Yeah. Me? Fucking Ice age, in it. Oh. An ice age?

Yeah. I realized for his shittiest Japanese summer is being cold sucks more. Like as a threat to life. Oh, yeah, yeah. So much more. Humans suck at dealing with the cold. I mean, we're pretty all right with dealing with the heat. Nature sucks at dealing with the cold.

Yeah, that's true. Do you know what the scariest one? Like a solar flare or something. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You could just be like chilling and then one day the sun's just, and it's like, oh, it's out a fucking... Yeah, that is kind of weird. And then half hour atmosphere is gone.

Yeah, we're about to die in 50 years. Right? Yeah, that's true. Yeah. That's scary because that literally could happen tomorrow. Every year it doesn't happen, you're closer to not having to live through it. Because you'll age. And eventually, like, I imagine if I get to like 70 and there's a colossal world disaster,

I'm like, it's been a good run, boys. Yeah. Did you, do you know, you know what I mean? At least it didn't happen when I was seven. You know what I mean? You're like, yeah, I didn't have anything to look forward to anymore, really. Do you know, the more, the more I realize, the more I get older? Bro, dinosaurs have kind of fucking goaded, man.

Okay. Okay. Explain your thought process on that. We have been around for two million years, I believe. How long has humanity been around for? Like two million years? Like the homo sapien? Yeah, and we've almost found, we've almost ended the world or found ourselves like, wipe each other out.

Like fucking countless times. Dinosaurs, how many fucking millions of years have they, did they rule the world? They were just too big, bro. I just, well, I remember, I think it was like, I don't remember the exact numbers, but it was like, numbers, but it was like something crazy like, we are just as far away from Tyrannosaurus Rex as Stegosaurus was to Tyrannosaurus rex. Yeah. Isn't that crazy to think about? Kai, Kai, Kai, can you, can you, can you Google how long, people think that, people think, how long the dinosaurs were around, people think those two creatures were around during the same time when it's just not even

close. 252 million years, 252 million to 66 million years ago. So what's that? About 200 million years. Bro, that's, bro, we, we have reached. It's like even close. Bro, that's, they just fucking low-diffed us. And then you hear a story about, you hear a story about how that one Russian, like submarine operator almost, like, almost started nuclear war with, uh, with America because of a,

uh, because of a, like a faulty sensor or something. Yeah, yeah. We're fucked. We can't even lift the AI age. Oh, dude. It's crazy. 150 million years. It's a good run. It's a great run. That's a solid run, dude. Fucking great run.

That's so cool. Dancers are cool. It's like a quarter of the time the Earth's been around. Literally a generational run. And we're like, oh, we're so much better than the dinosaurs. Look at them getting, getting... Look at the puny little brains going around. Getting wiped up on a little rock. Oh.

God damn. We're so dumb. We think we're the smartest creature. Yeah, I know. We are the dumbest creatures. 100%. We are the dumbest fucking creatures in the world. I don't think we're lasting.

How many more years do you think humanity will last? Let's take a guess right now. In the freak chance that this trash day's episode will last until the end of humanity? Let's make it, let's make a prediction. Do you think humanity's gonna get back to the space age and get to the point where we're colonizing other planets? Look, again. All right. Waiting on Elon to land on Mars.

If he can pull that off or whoever can pull that off, then yeah, I think it can happen. What do you think is more likely? humanity expands out or they shrink in and, you know, find a way to upload their consciousness into a virtual world. Oh, definitely the latter. Definitely the latter. I mean, it's already, it's halfway fucking there already at this point. With how many people are relying on the internet?

I mean, fuck, look at us. Like, we've left more memories of us on the internet than we could probably ever do in our entire lifetime, multiple lifetimes, right? Like, it's not, it's not gonna happen. We're going to wipe ourselves out before we go to another planet. I'm certain of it. I'm certain. And that's like, it might seem a little nihilistic, but like I'm, with how things are going

right now, it's, it's hard to be optimistic. I mean, it's our lives are a footnotes in just the entire history of the earth. Oh, it's like a blink. Yeah. Yeah. And, bro, in just our, in just our lifetime, it's terrifying how many different ways we could have wiped ourselves out. Yeah.

You know? Exactly. And we're like, we're like a, we're like a fucking. nanometer in the history footnotes of all of humanity. What do you think is more likely? Humanity is going to expand out and colonize other planets, or are we going to shrink in and find a way to make a virtual world and upload our consciousness there and just lose all sense of exploration?

Virtual world is more likely, to be honest. The amount of cooperation required to like plan. planetary expansion is like a shocking amount. God. Because we need more of a reason to get resources from out than in. And right now we don't have that. So until there's something we really need from another place, we won't do that.

You know? Yeah. Because we still have access to like all the elements. We don't need anything right now. I mean. When we, you know, if we want to make a Dyson sphere, perhaps that's something we can try and try and. figure out at some point, but I, you know, we can just build solar panels right now and just get

all the energy we need for the global scale. Yeah. We're just really bad at get doing anything. It's like a, you know, these countries have different motivations. Yeah. It's trying to beat everyone in the other else, you know. Yeah. Damn, virtual. We don't cooperate, man. We don't. We don't, we don't. Dinosaurs, they cooperated 150 million years. 150 million years. You don't get that way without working together. Don't get that, man. They can survive a nice age. They've survived many ice age. There's no other like group of species that has parts of it where they want to like destroy it all. Right.

I don't think there's any chimpanzees that want to destroy all of chimpanzee life. Oh, not before fucking. So like how weird are we? It's so fucking weird. Yeah. It's just, it's that whole concept of like, you're not me. Fuck you. Yeah.

Yeah. The chimpanzees are so cool. So cool. Yeah, they're right. I love videos of chimpanzees. Oh, no, orangutangans. Arangangangis are so fun to watch videos. I love the videos where chimps are just like a little too human.

I love it, man. I've seen that clip of the guy where like the guy like some, like in a chimpanzee enclosure, he's somehow in between the crack of the two glass things that separate the chimpanzee exhibit from like the zoo. A guy like slips in like a lit cigarette. Have you seen this clip? No, he smokes it? Yeah, it's this clip where he like slips in a lit cigarette and this chimpanzee

grabs it, starts smoking it. And then after he takes a drag, he looks down at it and he nods in a really human way. It's like, hmm, yeah, all right. North Koreans. Oh, I don't think it's this one, but this is also amazing. North Korean zoo. What a headline. A poor fucking monkey. It's bad enough being in a North Korean too. You've got to fucking smoke a pack of Malbos. Fuck me. Can't get a break, man. What's going on in? I just look at that. I'm like, wow, you guys are way too close to us, dude. I couldn't imagine when they were picking out, you know, in some weird contrived way of picking the animal. There's a video on screen right now playing of a monkey literally perfectly lighting up a pack of cigarettes.

God, he's puffing the fuck out of this thing. I pull fucking monkey. I feel so bad. Dude, breathe some oxygen. Fuck, man. Oh, it's so sad. It's so sad. Why?

Hey, man. To an alien species, that's basically us. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty much. Just a bunch of monkeys smoking cigarettes. With very, very big sticks. With very, very big sticks.

Wow, what an uplifting episode of trash taste. Ah, this is uplifting. Look, it's just a reflection of the current time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're being realistic here. Well, it's just, just apocalyptic stuff. Yeah. It's just shit we go through every day.

Shit that her auntie is going to have to face eventually because we don't control the earth yet. What do you mean? The government controls the weather, right? We could control the us. Us three. What? Mandatory food tier list, everyone.

Submit it. What do you think is the coolest apocalypse? Like... Define coolest. I don't know. Like in terms of like the vibe? Just... Like, okay, in the sense of like,

if you live through it, then people look back and be like, whoa. I think any apocalypse that you live through is cool. The concept of a super volcano just sounds cool to me. I don't know why. We kind of had that, though, in our lifetime. We never had a supervolcano eruption. We kind of did. What do you mean we kind of did?

That volcano that erupted in like fucking... On Iceland? Yeah, the one that, like, blocked air travel. That's not a super volcano. I felt like a super fucking volcano. What is a super volcano? Can we get a definition? What does this?

What the fuck is a super volcano? It's a volcano that's super big. And unusually large volcano having the potential of producing a major effect. Or there's yellowstone. I know there's yellowstone. drop down that. Drop down. How many super volcanoes are there in the world?

20. 20 super volcanoes. Well, the exact number isn't certain. Here's... Well, because there's like a fuckload of super volcanoes supposedly underwater as well, right? Like deep in the ocean. I'm sure we've had some eruptions we've definitely lived through. Oh, yeah.

We have had eruptions we've lived through. I mean, volcanoes erupting aren't... I mean, Sakharajima fucking erupts once every two weeks. Yeah. But super volcano, though? That's... I don't think it'd be as cool as you think. It's not as cool.

Probably not. I don't think it's going to be nearly as great. Look, the day that, not if, but when Mount Fuji robs again, is not going to be a cool day. But global pandemic wasn't as cool as they said in the, as it was in the movies either. You know, it was a lot more dreary. I don't know, man.

COVID was a lot more dreary than what the movies made it out to be, you know? What movies have made up COVID? What movie where it made it look cool? Just about like a zombie apocalypse? Yeah, yeah, like zombie apocalypse or like outbreak or shit like that. Yeah, but that's because the fucking. media always makes it like protagonist syndrome. And everyone's like, yeah, I could live through that.

If you get bit in the zombie apocalypse, are you hiding it? Are you telling your squad or are you hiding it? I don't know. Depends on who my squad is. If I hate my squad, then I'll hide it. It's us three. Us three? Yeah, you tell me you got bit by zombie?

You're going to be real with me? Yeah, I'll be real with you. Would you hide it? Yeah, I would. Why? I want to die. It's like, look, I'm doing you the service. If you're going to be taken out by someone, I want it to be my friend who got bitten by zombie.

I'll give you the dignity to be killed by your own friend. Rather than some random. I'll be the guy that ruins the squad by like turning and going, oh, I can fight it. I'm okay. If you were bit by zombie and you decided to make the, uh, Make the honorable choice of offering yourself. Okay. You know.

Yeah. How would you do it? Yeah. How would you do it? God, what are these questions? Definitely. What's the coolest way? Because like, unlike in America, they got the easier.

They got guns. And I'm like, shit. What if I do like a Looney Tunes mouse trap? Kind of like a series of things that goes off to eventually just drop an an anvil on me. Like a rude golf machine? Yeah. Yeah.

We spent the whole day making it, and it's going to fucking kill us. So we get little dominoes out, and we tie the anvil. And when it's finally done, you're like, boys, gather around. This is going to be sick. It's like dominoes into a shoot, like a plant pot slide. And then it like somehow at the end, it drops into a candle on a thing that flips it to the rope. And it burns the rope and then it drops the anvil on us. And we fucking get crushed to death like pancakes.

Damn. That'd be pretty dive, actually. At least it would be fun It would be fun It would be Nobody's Nobody's tried that Despite rude

Nobody's trying to have fun with it I feel like that's what's missing in zombie movies You know Not realistic enough Yeah that'd be pretty cool Yeah It's because you change so fast

You know You normally get bitten And it's like right away Well it depends on the zombie movie Right True The rules change drastically

I watched Dead Rising It was like in what, seven days? Right? Before you get turned? I think it's more interesting that it's a slow turn.

Yeah, I think so as well. I think it adds a lot more, you know, instead of the, when you see your friend get bitten, and they're like, they make eye contact, like, like,

and they like, and they turn. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's more interesting. Off is more, more time for things. Yeah. And that moment of like,

maybe I won't turn. And then they always turn. They always do it. They always do it. They always do it. I got a couple more days left and it's like five minutes later. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because I feel like it's more emotional when you have time to like say goodbye.

Yeah. And you just have to like live with it for like a week or something. You're like, shit, man, what are we doing in this week? Yeah, but is it cool? Have you watched any of Vince Gilligan's two show? Who is that? Oh, was that the breaking bad guy? Yeah. Yes. I heard about that. I think if you like this topic, you will love the show. What is it? Um, I guess the, the premise is fine to kind of explain. Basically, it's like another take on an alien invasion, if you will. Like, it's a, I don't want to get into the specifics, but it's a very interesting.

Oh, that's a cool of apocalypse. It's a very interesting approach to an alien invasion. A very, very different, I'd say. I really like, first episode is amazing. How's it different? It's not what, like, you expect. And the first episode very much, like, kind of reveals all of this. Pluribus.

Yeah, if you want me to really get into it, if you boys don't mind, or if you were going to watch it, I happen just watching it, but if you want me to tell you, kind of the twist of the first episode, I don't want to watch it. Then I think you should just watch it.

I think you'll love it. The world is overtaken by a mysterious wave of forced happened. Okay, yeah, there you are. Yeah. Oh, yeah, cool. So watch it. Very good.

All right. God, do you remember signs? I never watched it. I never watched signs. I know. I have this weird memory of you bringing this up on the pod. Have I? I think so.

I think you think about this movie. I mean, you think about this movie a lot. I do think about it. Every time Aliens comes up, I just think signs. And I still want Jeremy to play Selma. So we can talk about Selma. Oh, that's true. Yeah, I have a lot of things to play and watch.

I did read the article on the Goon Squad, though, that you read this? I read it. What do you think? It's fucking sad. Yes. It's really fucking sad. Were you compelled when you started reading it? I was very compelled.

Just because, again, like the author of the article, I just had, I didn't know idea the extent of like how far this whole gooning thing went. This is a, picking off on a topic that we talked about another episode quite a while ago where I mentioned this article called The Goon Squad. And it's a horrific kind of look into male loneliness. It's really like apocalyptic. It's kind of scary. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, obviously it's about gooning, but it's how the use of, I mean, I think to a certain extent, maybe one of the realist, and like most, what's the word, upcoming, if you will, oh, like the emboating, emboating, foreboding. Problems that I think we have right now is just like dopamine addiction. Yeah. Like what that does when you are constantly just getting dopamine. Are you addicted to dopamine? I like going outside and doing things. I don't think so.

I think I definitely like I am now, I feel like I'm very aware what I'm doing it. Like I know when I wake up in the morning, I know I'm like, I want to look at my phone for 15 minutes before I get out of bed. Like I just do that. And I know that it is literally to know

other purpose than for dopamine. Yeah, it's a second nature now. Yeah. And I'm like, I feel like again, like with anything, the first step is to like be aware when you are doing something

and what that means. Then slowly being able to cut back a bit more and I'm trying to. See, have this problem where I'm like, not sure if stimming or dopamine addicted in certain activities, you know, right. I'm like, shit, you know, because I've obviously, you know, I need stimulation my entire life, but now there's this extra layer where I'm like, huh, I don't know if this is a me thing or if this is a me problem. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But the article is really

fascinating because it basically looks into kind of follows a bunch of people who most certainly suffer from dopamine addiction, loneliness. Yeah, it's dopamine addiction and what I got from is that like, it's just this desperation for camaraderie. Yeah, man, guys want to be a part of something. Yeah, it's just people want to, like, humans are such social creatures and now people will literally kill, like, you know, mentally kill themselves over it. Yeah.

Just to feel that little sense of it. I'm just like, that's terrifying. Yeah, we're hardwired to need friends and to have social groups and that's something that won't change. You might be person who's more introverted and be able to get away from that. But you still need it. You still need to have some social parts of your life. It's really important to make sure you give yourself that and to try that.

And I think because it's been harder and harder online to make friends as well. You know, people turn to really weird parts of the internet. And perhaps there's some aspect of it where because it's porn and because it's shameful, that like shame bonding. Or you can, because you're all doing something shameful, you can kind of feel like you're really friends. and you'll really have a deep bond. Yeah. It's scary. That's the next apocalypse.

You read the article. Goonpocalypse. That's the next one. The goonapestide. Goonicide. Yeah, goon aside. That's it. Where your whole ego as a being,

you like subject yourself to just pure dopamine from just watching too much porn. Yeah. Jacking off. Like it's ridiculous. Yeah, it was a really good article. And word of the day. What of the day?

Gunicide. Gunicide. Word of the day. That's how I'm, going on a zombie apocalypse. Goon aside. I mean, that's what you're doing in a zombie apocalypse, I'm sure. Yeah, and, you know, and I think, I think the reason why we're talking about, you know,

in a very sad way, we're talking about, like, apocalyps is because, like, man, wouldn't it be exciting if the cause of our demise was just something external and we had nothing to do with it? But in reality, I think the downfall is going to be something that we've slowly done to ourselves. Oh, yeah. Almost very callously, kind of just suffering from the own devices that. that we've brought into this world.

And that's the truth. And that's why I think we almost look fondly at apocalypse like, oh, wouldn't it be nice? There's a super volcano. And we all had to get off our phones and work together and do something, you know, and work as a team. It's like a very strange form of escapism.

Yeah, yeah. Like I do really think that like that, like that conversation is fun to talk about because it's like, it is almost like a what if, oh. Yeah, yeah. You know, it's really, we're fucked. We're so fucked. It's all over.

Yeah, it's Jova. It's Jova. But it's not Joe. It's not. We can save it. We can, we can save. We're going to take a lot of work and we really need to start turning around right now. Yes.

Yeah. Right? Yeah. We're going to turn around, right? We're going to do things for good now, right? Guys, we're going to record. It's going to, course correct, right? Right.

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