Trash Taste Podcast - The Doujin Episode | Trash Taste #53
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While you open the wine, gone,
I will explain what we're doing today.
This is going to be a wine episode
because we're going to need the alcohol to get.
We've been drinking a while on trash taste
because I feel like we've been filming earlier.
But yeah, essentially, I don't read Durgens
as I've expressed before.
You don't read.
I don't read.
At all.
Stop.
And preferably I do not like my porn to be reading.
We can get into that.
So instead we decided the boys have both recommended me
three dogens each to read.
And then we are going to end on a very special one
where I'm sure people are going to be excited for.
In total, we're gonna talk about seven?
Yeah, we're gonna be talking about seven dojans
or Deggishis.
Six dojins and a mess, metamorphosis,
which we'll get into.
So yeah, and there's a little special thing going on
where I don't know whose is which.
So I've been recommended six.
Do you have like no clue at all?
I think I've, some of them I know.
Some of them I know.
I thought some were pretty obvious.
Some were very, very obvious.
Damn, you needed two shots of vodka there, God, damn, okay.
Some were very obvious, some I don't know.
And throughout this, I will be guessing as well,
whose Dojin was which recommendation.
Well, mostly, though, this show is going to be just watching,
me and Guy, just enjoying Connor's reactions to our recommendations.
And I assume you both read each other's recommendations.
It's funny because we recommend.
I recommended three Dogen she's each.
And I remember giving the list to Joey
and Joey gave his list.
And we were like, damn, we both recommended Jojings
that were like 200 pages long at least.
And we were just like, Connor, it's cool,
you don't need to read it or just read like three chapters
or something.
And so you get like the general gist there, right?
Yeah. But then Connor was like, bet.
Well, I'm like, first of all,
where do I even read Dogen's?
I don't even know where you go.
Like I was like, I'm totally confused.
I mean, there's lots of sites out.
And then I look for the sites, you know,
you know, and I'm, it just gets to the point
where I'm just fighting for my fucking life
to get this shit on full screen.
This fucking, there's fucking pop-ups
every two fucking seconds.
I'm just trying to do my homework,
and I gotta worry about fucking hot single ladies
in my area, you know?
Like, it's terrible.
We'll get used to it, man.
So how long did it take you to read everything?
I was under the impression, right?
The Dogens were like 30, 40 pages.
No, a lot of them are, that's the thing.
How did you guys manage to find
all of them that were like 200 fucking
Because those are the best ones.
Those are the best ones.
Yeah.
And I remember you saying, oh, you know, just stop at one chapter.
There was never any breaks in these things.
So I couldn't just draw.
What do you mean?
They all had chapters.
Not that I saw when I was reading them.
I don't know where I was reading them.
When it says at the end of the chapter, it says like ending.
Or like to be continued.
But I also feel like, you know.
Some of them literally have a whole page that says chapter two.
I did not see them.
But I read them all.
Jesus Christ.
So I'm gonna tell the names.
of these dirgeons, which again,
still be nothing to me.
Doro Sagi to Anthony.
White man butcher's Japanese.
To Anthony.
What is it?
Anthony?
What is it?
I don't know.
Go on, go on, what else?
Inman's Mikata,
succubai's supporter.
So you're saying the Japanese name
and then the translated name.
Oh, is that what this is?
Some of them have like English translations
of the Japanese name, yeah.
10-year-go-no-jinn-sen-sou-dhoun-life consultation
after 10 years.
Pissu-hame, very interesting title,
Seikatsu Shukhan, Kyoshi and Saito, teacher and student.
I mean, I understand that way, yes.
Yeah, so, I mean, I just went an order
of which one you gave me, so I read the- Okay, okay.
I read Dore Usagi, to Anthony.
When should I guess who's I think it is?
Why don't you guess it right at the beginning?
Why don't you guess the right at the beginning?
Um, I think...
It's a 50-50, yeah.
I think I wrote that on each one.
I think this was Joey's.
You are correct.
You are correct.
And I think because there was like a lolly
for like 10 seconds.
So I was like, Joe.
I saw the cover and I'm just like,
Connor's gonna immediately guess this.
Yeah, yeah, because the cover like fucking Shinobu.
Yeah.
Cover looked like this bitch.
Yeah.
I was like, this is Joey.
So this was the cover of the main girl.
This is like, she, she,
She like emanates such Shinobu energy
that Connors gonna- Oh yes,
but first thing I wrote was just from the cover,
I think it's Jerry.
This is literally gonna be,
if it's not a milf, it's a lolly, the episode.
There was some, yeah, there was some.
Okay, to be fair, this one I don't blame you.
Yeah, this one I don't blame you.
She wasn't a lolly, she just looked like Shinobo.
Before before we jump right into it,
what were your thoughts,
yeah, what were your thoughts
going into just reading hentai?
Because this is like our unofficial
sequel to the hentai episode, I guess.
Go check that if you haven't yet.
It is exhausting reading porn.
Well, I'm sure it is if you read,
it's like, if you ask me to like, okay,
if you're horny, you want jack off to something,
you can do it, right? A 10 minute video, whatever.
Yeah. If you made me sit through like a two hour J.A.V.
When I'm not horny, I couldn't imagine, like,
a worse experience in my life.
You know what I mean?
Because how long were you collectively reading these dogens for?
Like three to four hours.
Back to back.
Well, it's because we thought, right, we were like, I saw the list.
and I was like, all of these are like full on books.
Yeah, I read them all.
So I was like, oh, okay, so like, you know,
a couple of chapters each, max take like an hour.
He just needs to get an idea of each.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, there's only one of them I didn't read fully
was because there was like 200 pages.
It was like 800 pages, right?
It was ridiculous.
So I gave up on the first one, but I mean,
yeah, it was exhausting.
It is really, like, I've sat through really bad movies
that I felt were less painful.
Like, it is just difficult.
I'm like reading Dojian,
I can see it, you know?
Sometimes you see something like,
oh, that's hot.
And then I'm like, even if I wanted to jack off here,
what am I supposed to do?
Do I just sit there and think about what I'm looking at?
Like, that feels like I'm like, I'm like, de-evolving.
Like at what point do I just do like Morse code masturbating?
Like, where I'm like, oh, dude, that's so hot.
She's telling she's gonna fuck me in Morse.
Like, I don't know, to me, I like the movement.
I'm not seeing enough movement, you know?
I'm not seeing enough movement.
My eyes are not simulated enough.
I don't know.
I was reading this, and, you know,
I just like, every time I thought this was really hot,
I'm like, well, what I do?
What would I do?
It's not continuing, I have to continue it.
My cock in my hand, I don't know what to do.
I'm like, what do I do, dick in hand,
stuck in the stage.
What do I do?
It's not moving, it needs to move,
when does it start moving?
This is the exact reaction I wanted.
Yeah, yeah.
Even if I thought it was hot, you know,
I just, some of them, you know, I will admit,
some of them I thought were quite attractive.
I thought they were very well done.
And I, you know, if they were an anime for,
I don't know.
It's weird because like some of these have had anime adaptations, right?
I know.
But like to me, like, the Dojan version is like always hotter
than the anime version.
I don't know what it is about.
I mean, the drawings are very more intense.
Yeah.
Something I learned very quickly.
I get like a way more intense feeling
from reading the Dojans.
No, no, because then watching the anime adaptation, right?
To me, like there's a, it's a different kind of art form, right?
Because to me like, like reading Dojans,
is like, to me, it's a really good way to warm up, right?
Right, right.
Because to me, like, who really likes sitting through
a 20 minute hentai, you know?
That's, I don't mind to you, you know?
I'm not, not time, you know?
I mean, most of the time, I'm just like, whatever.
But for some reason, in stories and Dojans,
I'm like, I'm listening.
Go on.
Yeah, you're reading, Joe.
Yeah, I'm reading.
I'm like, I'm invested, go on.
To me, reading Dojans is just getting the story,
you know, getting the context
and getting able to get the story
without having to like just watch 20 minutes
of just boring buildup and porn.
And it's so much hotter when you understand the context.
I mean, I like speed run the story most of the time anyway.
Like if it's like this, you know what they're doing.
It's like, all right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tap, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10.
Yeah, I get it, I get it.
He's your brother, all right, okay.
Yeah.
In a laundry machine, I don't know.
I skip forward, I'm like, okay, I've got enough,
I've got enough understanding of the plot
that I can go now.
Yeah, right.
I can do it, I can enjoy it.
So did you like, does,
Did you like input any of the stories of any of the ones in the way?
Yeah, no, I did.
I actually like, because obviously when you're reading,
it's really hard to ignore the story.
You can't double-time.
It's really, really frustrating.
You couldn't get, you can skip the cut scenes.
What am I going wrong?
I feel like this is a fatal floor of books.
You can't skip any of the story, you know.
You can't skip any of the cut scenes.
You can't just go straight to the gameplay.
As much as I tried, try to you know.
All right, so let's start with the first one then.
Dori, which is the first one you want to start with?
Do you want to go in order?
I'll start with this.
Thought it was like a dance on you, right?
So this is the one where it was just a strange story.
And I admit that at times it was quite hot,
but then it was also really weird, really, really weird.
So I mean, like, how's so?
So there's this girl who's a ghost,
but she's then not a ghost.
I think she's taking medicine to go invisible.
And then she's like sucking him off in the class
and no one can see him suck, no one,
but she's invisible, but he's not.
So why is his dick invisible?
This is gonna sound really strange.
This was a very confusing plot.
Oh yeah, so if you care about
You think that the Dojans, we're gonna be spoiling it, I guess,
if you care about the plot.
Spoilers.
Spoil, this was like, for every, like, in this one at least,
for every like one moment that I was like, oh, that's hot.
It would literally do 10 other things.
So I'm like, what the fuck is this?
Yeah, I, honestly, I, because after you've read the everything,
because I only, like, I thought you're just gonna read
a few chapters of everything.
So I read a few chapters of Joey.
And then when you said you read everything,
I went back to just completely finish everything as well, right?
I feel like this just a complete 180 at the end as well,
where it starts going into this other backstory.
I'm like, no, no, no, no.
That author tends to do that with everything he writes.
There was just like moments in there
where I had to write down.
It was like, I put, this shit is mad insult.
These,
Isn't that most ogian?
That's most odious.
Because there was this moment where like,
oh, these girls are wearing skirts,
they're such sluts.
And I'm like, all right.
These femoids.
All right, okay, geez.
How dare they?
I know what I'm getting myself into.
I mean, look at the main character.
He's just, he's like, okay, okay,
I guess before we get into it, Joey,
do you want to explain why you chose this one?
Yeah, why did you choose this one?
Okay, so literally, I'll admit,
this was the part where I was like,
fuck, I don't know what to do for the third one.
Oh, okay, but, but I like everything
by Akatski Mito, who's like this artist.
So honestly, any one of his could have been on this list.
Right.
But I figured like, probably the least weird one
for Connor would be this one.
The least weird one?
The least weird one.
I feel like this is not the least weird one.
I mean, there's a few other ones.
I mean, it's not that bad.
No, the least weird out of his works.
Oh, okay, okay, okay, yeah.
I mean, like, the other two are ones
that I actually really enjoy.
Yeah.
That like immediately came off the top of my head.
You know, the one thing that I wish they would just chill out
with on Dojans is just how fast shit escalates.
It goes from like, ooh-woo to like gang bang in the showers
within like four pages at times.
And I'm like, hold on, hold on, hold on.
There's no.
No time to fuck around.
It's like, let this boy chill her out a little bit.
Let him play some video games.
Be like, fuck, I just fucked, you know, like, damn.
What?
I don't know what you're suggesting there
because you're probably gonna skip over it.
Yeah, I know, I know, but it's just like,
oh God, okay, I'm like, I should have,
oh, God, we're fucking, oh, yeah.
Give me a warning.
I actually had like, out of everyone,
I had the most trouble following this story.
This was really confused.
I thought it was like a really simple story.
And then like the last chapter here,
I'm just like, what is going on right now?
Because I'm fucking stupid.
Can you explain
the basic premise of the story.
From what I, from what I understand,
this guy was, okay, so again,
you're not found, I want to spoil the thing
because you find out more earlier on,
but we'll start from the start.
You just kind of find this guy,
kind of like a normal and cell kind of,
I mean, I feel like,
basic anti-tipatans.
You know, wants to get revenge
and all the women around him
and then a girl transfers into the school
who then immediately just starts,
he's a ghost, but then,
so only he can see her,
but no one else can see her.
So she gives him glasses or something.
That's right.
Yeah, she gives him some glasses.
That make all the clothes see-through.
Yeah, they make all the clothes see-through.
So he's just looking at all these naked girls
while being sucked off by this invisible girl,
even though no girl can see anything sucked up.
Yeah, and also this girl immediately starts sucking him off right away.
And then I hate it when they do this,
when they refer to the characters,
when they refer to themselves in the third person to me,
I'm like, stop that.
What is that?
Is that what they did?
Yeah, they did that in the first,
Only in the first seed.
And I was like, oh God, please not make this a constant thing.
She's like calling herself her name,
which is Charlotte, I think.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
She's like, Charlotte is happy.
And I'm like, oh, for fuck.
She calls herself third person.
Admittedly, it's been a while to read this one.
I was hoping you could bring more context into it.
Okay, but I remember the reason why I picked this one
is because it literally has every tag.
I guess.
That's why I enjoy about it.
Like you get the best of, I was about to say both worlds,
every world.
Every multiverse.
There's a lot.
And so he fucks the ghost blowjob
and apparently no one else can see.
Even though he's like clearly nutting at the table.
I'm like, this guy is literally nutting.
He's like, are you telling me?
And so like, are you okay?
Yeah, like as if no one would notice that you're, you know, come on.
To be honest, that sounds fucking hilarious.
It's hard to believe that it's as attractive
because there's no way I could be like, oh, that's hard,
that could be me.
Like, no, it could never ever be me.
ever be me.
And not that I would ever want to go sucking,
I don't want Casper sucking me off.
Yeah, yeah.
But, you know, it's kind of, you know what I mean?
Basically, like the first, the first chapter
just kind of reminded me of like some,
like some porn spin-off of Bunny Girl's Empire, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Where, you know, where he's in the library
and he sees my for the first time
and no one else can see him.
This is basically just that, you know?
This is that if it was R-18.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
I know, I've watched Tentai,
so I know this shit exists,
but there was one piece of dialogue as well,
like the bully girls who are like attractive or whatever.
Oh, the gals are right.
Oh yeah, yeah.
You know, they ask him for money and that's so inexcusable
that in return he's gonna fuck them.
That's how he's gonna get back at them.
And I'm like, what the fuck is this logic?
Like what am I?
It's in-so-wagon, dude.
I know, I know, I know, I know.
It's just literally asked you for a tenor.
What do you mean?
Let's chill out.
Like, come on.
Like, I don't think it's that bad.
Like, how dare you?
Yeah, I bet.
Okay, now he becomes horny Casper,
the ghost.
He goes invisible.
I was, I was not following the story at all.
So then what happens is, is that he,
the girl, the Charlotte ghost girl,
then is like, well, don't worry, homie,
I got you and starts, like, drugging
the other people in the class that make them horny.
Oh yeah, she does do that, yeah, yeah,
and then she introduces like new power-ups.
This is like the fastest PS2 games.
That's what I'm saying, man, like it's every tag.
And then he's like, hold up,
but now you can drug them
and then I'll give you invisibility drugs.
And it's like, but you only got 30,
and then he starts fucking like the whole school.
And then they find out and then they don't care
and then they carry on fucking.
And then this just goes insanity and literally
the whole school is being fucked by this guy
within like, I'm literally 10 minutes into the story.
And this is what's going on?
I can't think.
What is happening?
Which girl is which?
I don't know which, they all have the same hairstyle.
Wait, is this girl Robin?
Wait, which ones the, which one's the guy?
What is happening?
It was at this point where like, you know,
you know when there's like so many girls
that all of them just start blending in together?
Yeah, yeah.
And you're just like, I don't even know.
fucking anymore.
Yeah, right.
Like, you know, and then where the fuck
did this Willy Wonka candy come from,
where everyone's, everyone's just fucking horny now?
Where does it come from?
Where's the backstory to that?
There's no backstory.
And then later on, we find out that
the main girl who he wanted to fuck the whole time
was some poor homeless girl
that he was speaking to in the start.
Oh, the student council girl.
Yeah, that he got made fun of for talking to
and then the girl wishes that they never met,
or he misses that he never,
and then his doll, his doll comes to life,
and that's the one he's fucking,
and she brings the drugs.
What is going on?
That's what confused me.
It was that chapter where the doll starts talking
and I'm just like, have I just skipped over a chapter?
This is literally like, Lord of the Rings
when you miss like one page, you're like,
hold up, did I just miss the whole,
I didn't miss the whole point of the show,
yeah, I need to go back 20 pages.
It feels like I just got a Charmalan twist
without having a Shamalan movie.
Yeah, I just, like, every page is a Samalan twist.
I can't keep up with it.
I'm just like, what is going on?
But like, there'll be like two moments
and I'm like, that's hot.
But then what is going?
Okay, okay, what I didn't understand was, okay,
so was the main girl just, was she wearing a wig
the entire time?
Was that the twist?
I don't even wear.
I didn't understand.
She's like, my weave.
He shows up at this house and he's just like,
what's the girl's name again?
Like Charlotte.
He's just like, Charlotte?
And it's a girl with black hair
and then Charlotte fucking runs away
and I start putting it on a wig, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Am I following this correctly?
Wait, what?
I don't know.
This was like the second to the second to the way.
last chapter, right?
I thought it was just like, you know what?
I honestly got very confused.
I'm not gonna lie, there's multiple times.
I reread this ending like four times
and I still didn't understand what was happening.
And then like, they just pull like, you know,
he literally, it's just the sheer like,
how it just changes like completely.
It literally ends on like a gang bang
and then the next panel, it's like,
you could hear the Anahana music playing it.
But really, there's a sad,
backstory as to why he's fucking everyone.
It's like, oh, get the fuck out of here.
What is this?
I don't give a fuck.
No one can't.
Not gonna lie, I chose this one because I knew
you guys would react like this.
Because it's so ridiculous that I just love it.
Like you know that Shonen trope where like the villain gets defeated
and then after the villain's defeated,
you finally see his backstory?
That's like, that doesn't belong in a hentai.
You can't just fuck a girl and then just show her backstory
after she gets fucked, right?
Like, I need this context before the fucking happens.
It's like putting a backstory in the middle of a fight, right?
He's just like, why now, why now?
You couldn't have waited until afterwards?
I'm not gonna lie, some of these are blend, no,
it's blending into my head.
Is this the one, and it just end?
How does this one end?
It ends with this random fucking side story of someone.
With the marriage?
With the marriage, which, like, what is happening?
And like, I don't, I didn't recognize any of these characters.
No, these characters looked the same.
It wasn't even the main fucking character.
But they just fuck, they just fuck for some reason,
even though he's just cheated right before he's like,
wedding day or something shit.
Like, he like cheats right before his wedding day.
Like the whole story is like, they're a fan club of him, I think.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're a fan club of the ghost that fucked,
like the main protagonist, the in-cell guy,
they make a fan club of him in the side story.
But I don't recognize any of these characters.
No, no.
And then two of them are getting married.
And it's not even the men girl either.
It's got nothing to do with them.
It's a different girl.
And then he cheats on her right before the day of,
and then there's a whole scene of,
does anyone object to the marriage?
And they were like, I do.
It's like this shit is insanity.
It's like, it's, I didn't even know what to critique.
I don't regret, regret this one.
There's so much shit happening that I'm like,
what do I even begin to critique?
Because there was just way too much shit going on.
It's like someone, he literally pulled up every genre
And he was like, bet.
Yeah, I'm gonna get everything.
That's exactly what you did.
It's like, is there a genre where it's like,
you know, shout at the wedding, no.
Stop the marriage, that could be a tag.
Yeah, it probably is.
And he probably made it.
Stop the vote.
Stop the count.
Stop the count.
My favorite anti-tag, stop the count.
Yeah.
That is this tag.
It's just stop the count, right?
Because he's fucked so many girls now
that he can't even count
how many girls he's fucked.
Okay.
To me, you know,
like I said on the hentai episode,
You know, there has to be some kind of story in there.
And there was moments.
Oh, now you care about story, huh?
And henta, I do, yeah, I need a little bit of story.
This man, which is why-
This is the only time when-
Some of them, it might shock you that I enjoy later.
But like this one was just like,
what the fuck is happening?
It's a dumb-ass story.
Shit keeps getting weirder and weirder.
Not in a funny way, like that one hentai
where people start shooting each other
and there's dubstep.
There's no dub steps go along with these panels.
Dubstep would have gone great with some of these scenes.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I wish there was a built-in, like,
dubstep.
You're gonna just go on to YouTube.
It's a dumb step as you read it.
Honestly, this is the kind of, yeah,
it's literally the kind of dogy
where put on Scrolex in the background
and it'll be wild-paced like Scroleth.
Honestly, like reading this,
I feel like my bono got whiplash.
Yeah, yeah.
With the amount of shit that was that.
True, true.
You're just like, you got a workout after that.
It's just like, whip, nope, nope, nope.
Every time you're like, I'm into this.
It's like, no, no, no, no, no, okay.
It's like you start getting into it, nope, new tag, okay?
Well, I guess I'll just, nope, nope,
new tag, okay?
And I'm just like, okay, what is the theme to this?
What was, what was the author trying?
What was the vision?
What was the vision?
What was the author trying to say with this?
No, this is literally what tags you want?
Yes.
This is what this is.
It's terrible.
It's fucking terrible.
I know, to me it needed like, it needed,
okay, this is gonna sound so fucking pretentious.
It needs something to connect all the dots, right?
No, I honestly, I'm gonna agree with you.
Oh my fucking God, are we agreeing on something, Connor?
My fucking God.
This felt like, trash taste first.
This felt like just 10 dojans
that have been like,
let's just fucking.
ran them into one.
We got these sexy girls that I don't wanna redraw
or in different ways, like, shoving into one.
You know what this felt like, this felt like,
it was like if the MCU had one recurring character
in every movie, right?
But then it was just like, it was one continuous narrative.
But it's because every movie genre is so fucking different,
you just don't know what the fuck's going on.
You can't follow anything.
It's like playing all the MCU movies at once.
Yeah, I know right.
I gave this one, I originally wrote down seven,
but that can't be right.
I'd give it like a five, really.
Oh, we're doing scores as well.
I would have given it, personally, I gave it a five.
Is this one got an anime adaptation,
like a hentai adaptation?
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I don't think anything by Akatsky Mutual has gotten an anime.
But I mean, if this doesn't know the authors.
I guess before we move on though,
what did you think of the art?
It's fine, pretty good.
The art's pretty intense.
I mean, I feel like there's a lot more fluids going on
in the Dogens and the anime adaptations.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, the art's pretty good.
I was like, it's pretty damn good.
I mean, I can't fault that.
He's a really good artist.
He's a really good artist.
I don't think there was any of these dogens
where the art put me off,
except, I mean, no, I liked all of them, actually.
I'd say all of them had their merits.
That's good.
So, like, in his other works,
she said this one was one of the least weird ones.
Yeah.
What's so weird about his other works?
What happens in his other works,
if you can remember?
And Ashley, can you put on the air conditioning right now
because I'm getting a bit heated.
Let's get it on here.
Literally and physically,
like mentally and physically.
Mentally and physically right now.
So there's another one, when I was like thinking
of what the last one is, right, I was like,
all right, let me go through my favorite artist
and see if there's one I can remember.
And then I got to his works,
and one of them I wanted to recommend
was one called Linguaranka.
Okay.
Which is also done by him.
And again, this is a while since I've read this one,
but basic oversimplified premise is,
guy and a girl are flying a plane across an island
and they crash land onto said island.
And that island has this secret civilization
of all these like Amazonist girls who live there.
This is a Futurama episode.
And the guy gets kidnapped by that civilization
because he's the first male that they've seen
in like over a hundred years.
Death by Snoo Snoo.
Yeah, this is literally the Futurama episode.
It's literally death by snoo, snoo, snoo.
But then there's like,
but then you find out there's like,
this like alien species that has been controlling
that civilization for the longest time.
That's Futurama.
Is it?
Yeah, there's a robot controlling,
I do not remember that.
The bender like makes out.
I can't believe Futurama ripped off.
This is literally a Futurama.
I can't believe Future Armour.
I can't believe Future I'm going.
I can't believe Future I'm going to rip them off like that.
Seas and desist, incoming.
I mean, if you had to give this a rating, what would you give it then?
Top of your head, eh?
Um, no, I'd say like six or seven.
Really?
Yeah.
It's good, but it's not my favorite of his.
I think the best part of this was the art.
Yeah.
The ending and the fact that it ended, honestly.
The ending just made me confused.
I did not.
I did.
it when they put a one shot with totally different characters.
There's like 10 pages that just confuses me.
I'm like, wait, what's going on?
The bonus content.
I hate it when they do that.
It confuses me to death.
Well, that's like the bonus content you get from buying the full book.
Right, right, rather than just reading in magazine.
Right.
Yeah, I'll give it a five.
It was like, that's a pass.
Huh?
That's a pass.
I've seen like a lot of hints I like this where it's just like,
all right, let's just getting to the fucking as fast as possible.
What is the premise?
All right, premise done.
How many girls can this fuck in one?
one single sitting.
Yes.
Yeah.
And that was just this entire.
I mean, it was good, it was good, you know.
No, look, I'll admit, even though I recommended it,
it's nothing special.
Okay.
I just really like the art.
You're just grass mills, course.
No, no, I just really like the artist.
Okay.
And how fucking ridiculous and like,
just like, his passion for just being like,
fin-up with every tag that I can.
I just think to one show.
It's like, I respect it.
I respect it.
All right, what's the next one?
Um, imman no mikata,
succubized supporter.
Oh yes, yes, yes.
Which one do you think this is?
Whoever chose this new me, well, I'd say.
Right.
I think I have this as Joey here.
Okay.
It's mine.
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
This one could have gone either way, I think.
Yeah, you know what's funny is that this is one of three
that I've read before.
Yeah, I was going to put it in until Gant sent me his list.
Dude, it's a classic.
It's like one of the top rated one.
It's one of, I think it's one of the most famous Dajinchis,
like long-form Dijingis.
Yeah.
of all time.
Yeah.
And for good- I see one.
And for good fucking reason.
Like, it's-
Art is great, story's great.
Art is great, stories great,
and just blow jobs?
Very good, very good.
It will blow your fucking mind.
So essentially how the story starts
is there's just a guy who doesn't have a job
chilling on a bench and then succubis come up to him.
Kind of like a, you know, like a hot singles in your area.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But IRL.
But I r.
Do you want a job helping us succubuses?
And he's like, oh, I don't know what that is,
but okay, sure.
What's a succubes?
To give a bit more context.
So this world has like, has like,
Sakibai or succubus have integrated into the human society.
So like they're not this mythical creature anymore.
So like a lot of most of the population of the world
has some succubus blood in it, right?
That's right.
And the science is that the more succubus blood that's in a guy,
the less tasty their semen is.
They're fluids are.
They're fluids are.
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but it's because I'm a gamer
and I play games.
Back to the show gamers.
And of course,
our main gun,
here is one of like 90, like one of the 0.1%
of the population less, left.
That is just pure human.
That is just pure human blood, right?
Pure, no succubis blood in this family tree.
And of course the job he's given is to basically just like provide an all you can
eat buffet.
That's the best way I can provide it.
One man buffet.
One man versus the world.
I mean, I like this one.
I mean, I like this one.
It was very good.
How can you not like this one?
This is one of the least offensive ones.
What guy wouldn't want this?
Just literally just, you're just a piece of meat, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
One thing that like, because this artist, I feel,
is probably like the best artist
when it comes to drawing blow job scenes.
I mean, this dogenci in general
is just 90% blowjob, right?
I think there's like one sex scene in it
and it lasts like two, three pages or something.
Right?
It's mostly like, it's mostly blow jobs.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So clearly we know what this artist likes.
This is like, it's like literally the blow jobs
you wish you were given.
Like this is like, if I could give this manga,
a summary, it's pretty much that.
I mean, yeah, I mean, what is not to like about this?
Like I said, like the God tier art positions
are fantastic, you know?
Yeah, fantastic stuff.
Okay, here's the question.
Do you think this would translate well into a hentai?
Yeah, dude, if fucking pink pineapple made this,
hell yeah, dude.
I'm there.
Wait, did this not get a hentai?
No.
No, they got a state at home succubes got one.
Oh, that's right, yeah, yeah.
The other one got one.
And I don't know, like, what I think
wouldn't translate well is that the fucking blow job scenes here
are so intense, I couldn't see it translating well
into henton.
Yeah.
Might be able to be done.
I don't know.
Maybe science will advance and we'll get good technology
to be able to animate them.
Like, it'll be like a 20 minute BJ scene.
So yeah, they have this story where, okay,
so they just start fucking him.
And then apparently his, you know, his Pee is so good
that they're like, we made a website about your dick.
Oh yeah, they made him go viral, didn't they?
They made him go viral.
They were like, oh, by the way, we've put your dick online.
Don't worry by the way, we haven't shown your face.
Yeah, yeah, of course.
But your dick's famous now, to all the other sucky buy
in the world.
And then like, oh, okay, there's more sucky bus in this world.
Okay, and then they hold an award shirt,
like an award show, like I just have,
like an idol handshake, like it.
It's an idle handshake thing where you can come
And instead of handshaking idol, you can suck the dick.
Yeah, yeah, so, so these succubus,
they're like hundreds of succubes show up
to this handshaking event.
A cockshaking event.
Yeah, yeah, where they get,
where they pay an amount of money
to get like five minutes to milk the cow, right?
That's the best way to describe it, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Pretty much.
That was probably my favorite chapter.
I'm just like, that was one fucking intent chapter.
Yeah.
Just, just, I, because normally I'm like,
I'm not into like the whole harrum,
angle of it, but it was so like, the concept was so overdone
and the art was so great and it was just,
some of the scenes were so fucking intense
that I'm just like, yeah, that's hot.
All right, that's hot, that's hot, that's that, that's that.
It's very good, very good stuff.
It's getting flashbacks.
This is one where it's like, if I'm suffering
to like, you know, pick one for the job.
Yeah, this is the comfort food.
This is the one that I always go back to.
Yeah, I mean, the reason I pick this one
is because like out of every Dogenchi,
if I were to pick one where I'm introducing someone
to like the world of Dogenchi and what it's like,
then this one's just like,
this one's just like an all rounder in every category, right?
This is the, don't miss, it don't miss.
This is the fucking Naruto of Hentai, okay?
It's the gateway drug, okay?
It's the gateway dog, okay?
It's the gateway Degi, okay?
I mean, yeah, because like the content,
like the tags are so inoffensive.
where it's like it's not too weird,
where it's like, oh, I'm not really into that,
like everyone's into fucking BJs.
Like, who doesn't love blowjobs, right?
Who wouldn't want three succubuses, you know?
I mean, you know, can-
This is such a god I wish that were me, Dojan.
And it's okay, right?
Because it's succubuses, right?
So if you're not too early, that's like, great,
they like that, that's what they want.
Yeah.
More for them.
No disappointment.
Oh, God.
Yeah, I mean, what I mean, what I mean,
What I liked is that they gave context to,
you know, you know, normally like a hentai protagonist
and orgasm like an ungodly amount of times.
Yeah.
Yeah, I like the fact that they gave it a reason
for him to be able to orgasm that amount of time,
which is just like, like, if you feed on the...
They have pheromones or something.
They have, no, they have pheromones,
and if you, like, feed on their spit or something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's always the saliva.
Yeah, if you swap, like,
yeah.
If you swap body fluids, then it's just like,
like, like this fucking mega-aprodisiac.
Yeah.
And the semen is like an aphrodisiac for the suck.
That's like a two-for.
Never-ending cycle.
Oh God, the perfect system doesn't exist.
In this story after they have this whole handshaking event,
as I'm how to call it, they put his face online anyway.
They're like, come, come guys, look how amazing this guy is.
And then suddenly a fucking Sundari Lolly shows up,
and I'm like, what's all this?
Why are you getting in the way of my hen-time?
I'm like, I totally forgot about that.
Because I didn't know which one of you did this, right?
Yeah.
was what tilted it in the head.
I was like, I was like, fuck.
Oh yeah, this bitch, I remember.
Yeah, I remember first reading that.
And then she's like, hello, I am the mother.
Yeah, and then I was like, I was like,
literally the headset meme of like,
taking the headset up like, oh, you had it,
you had it, why did you introduce a fucking lolly?
It was so good.
Because what's so funny is that she's technically
a lolly miff, right?
It's the both worlds.
Everybody wins.
Literally, I wasn't even wearing a headset,
but I metaphorically pulled one out for that meme.
I'm like, fuck this shit.
Just did the movement.
Fuck!
It was so, oh God, it was so perfect, you know,
I was enjoying life, it was great, you know,
and then this happened, it ruined it for me.
It was great, it was great.
There's no pleasing.
Even with the most inoffensive, Togin, there's no pleasing to me.
I just didn't like, and she got a whole own section.
I was like, no one else got their own section.
Why do you get your own section?
But at this point, no one else had their own section
at this point.
Why does the fucking Lolly who just showed up
looking like a fucking brat stall
get to have a whole fucking 20 pages?
What's this? I don't want this.
I'm like fucking speed running this shit
trying to get it over with.
Like, when is anything else gonna happen?
And then luckily, luckily it saved itself.
It brought up the big guns.
The next chapter, right?
The next chapter, yeah.
And then suddenly they introduced, they're like,
oh, by the way, there's a union for Suckebuses.
Because of course,
course there. And they have a headquarters. Yeah, you get shipped off to like the fucking UN or something, right?
The fucking UN of succubes is shipped off. And then they're like, by the way, succubuses have
been stopping wars for generations because we fuck people into submission. So no wars, because
everyone is happy, because we fuck them. And it's like, oh, okay. I mean, I guess that,
I guess that makes sense. Of course. Got to introduce some world building somewhere.
I don't have wars if you're fucking, right? Jeez. And then, yeah, I really like that woman.
She was great, she was very attractive.
I very much like her.
Because it looks like a mill.
Oh yeah, she does.
I thought she was, she was right up my alley.
I was like, this is great.
You do look like an office lady tag kind of person.
Yeah, yeah.
Because she was also, you know, she was also like,
ah, no, I don't want it, don't want it.
But then she did want it.
But then she did want it.
That's what I like.
Out of context Connor.
No.
No.
But it was obvious the whole time.
Yeah, yeah.
Fuck.
Yeah.
Of course.
Yeah, of course.
We're in a dogen, yeah.
You know.
Wouldn't have been such a shamel on twist
where they introduce her and she's like,
I don't want to understand.
I want to watch a porno where the plumber comes
and just fixes something and then just leaves
and then she just masturbates.
I want that.
That's very avant-garde.
My expectations, you know, give me something.
Throw me a curveball, you know.
Maybe that would have been.
We're deconstructing porno now.
Yeah, exactly.
Do it.
Yeah, but I mean, I think I wrote down,
I said this would have been a 10 out of 10
if they didn't have the fucking lollad of it.
The lolly intrusion is I called it.
The lolly intrusion.
Oh my God.
Yeah, I mean, I wrote the art as God tier.
Like pretty much everything was God tier.
I'm gonna fucking around with A. outta 10.
I mean, yeah, it's, it was probably my favorite
out of all of these in terms of could I nut to it.
Yeah, that's definitely the-
That does not surprise.
Despite being just pictures, I think I could manage.
I think I could scroll really fast.
The first thing I did when I looked at like the list
with Garton mine is like,
this is gonna be Connoissever.
You know my taste now.
I'm like, this man likes vanilla,
this is the most vanilla.
I mean, I mean, it's not so much vanilla
as so much as so, it's just,
it's just universally agreed.
It's inoffensive, yeah.
That this is God tier dosin.
Oh yeah, 100%.
It's one of the best dosians ever made,
some of the best art ever made.
Hasn't yet gotten a hentai adaptation,
which I'm just like, how is this not gotten hentai adaptation?
I would appreciate an adaptation to this.
Maybe all the studios are scared.
Oh, yeah.
It's like a BIP.
We don't want to fuck this up, dude.
And a Queen Bee cracking, they're not doing.
Dude, if Queen Bee adapts this, I would cry so hard.
Let me take a shot at this.
Just comes from behind the trees.
Because what sucks about Queen Bee is that when you,
it's like every Queen Bee dogeon that seems to get adapters,
it's like a dogeon I respect like close to this level, right?
It's a God tier dogen that gets passed around you,
like, brilliant.
This looks fucking fantastic.
I mean, I feel like when I see people in the comments
of these websites, be like, oh God, it's Queen Bee.
I'm just like, I don't even know.
know who this Dojan is.
So I could have never been disappointed anyway.
What is this?
And frankly, I don't even know who you are.
I literally don't even know who you are.
So like it's not a problem.
But some of them I still manage, you know,
Queen Bee does a good enough job sometimes.
Good enough job.
Right, you get the job done, you know.
The task can be complete.
But yeah, I know, I mean, this is just great.
So I highly recommend if you haven't read Dogens.
Wow, Goda, okay.
Wow, what the fuck.
You know what I would prefer Queen Bee did actually
instead of what they do now.
I would prefer that if Queen Bee animated their Dojans
or animated their hentai, the same way that...
Animated Dojans are made?
No, kind of like, what was that house,
the Yakuza husband one that got animated?
Oh, where the house husband?
Where, way of the house husband.
Yeah, yeah.
Like slideshows?
Yeah, yeah.
Not slide shows, but just like an animated comic.
I would actually prefer that style over...
Where they just copy each frame.
Where they just copy each frame, right?
Yeah, yeah, true.
Because to me, like, a motion comic would give way
more of like an impact than what whatever the fuck,
Queen Bee do.
Like please, Queen Bee, please.
I can handle that.
Just give me a motion.
Call me Queen Bee.
How much?
How much you need?
20 bucks?
Yeah, it's your whole bunch.
It's gotta be.
Fuck, you know, yeah.
I mean like, I wrote eight out of ten
because of lollie, but I'll pretty give it a nine.
It would have been a 10 out of 10 if there was no lollies.
Honestly, I'm not joking, that's serious.
All right.
That kind of took me out of it.
That was like whiplash.
Would you be interested in his other works then?
Are there, is this good?
Yeah.
This artist is really good.
Most of his work is very blowjob oriented.
Like, he's just, he's just the fucking blow team.
I always think, you know,
blowjob is like the best visually part,
like the visually like sexual thing.
Blowjob is probably the most attractive looking,
I think, when done right.
Yeah, yeah.
It's like a, it's like a macaroon,
there's a little fucking sweets.
You know what I'm going with this?
You always see those sweets, right?
You're like, the French streets, right?
You can very blowjubs the macaroos?
Because you look at a macaroid, right?
You're like, that looks amazing.
That looks fucking amazing.
I really, really want that.
And they never, ever, ever taste as good as they look.
And that's how I feel about blooms.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Why?
Because in, in, in hentai,
I can feel the soul.
In hentai, bro, they make it look like
fucking WrestleMania Smackdown, World Wind on the dick.
It's not like that in real life.
It's like, oh, shit, ah, ooh.
You know, you just said,
You've been getting shit blowjobs.
Is that what it's like?
That's not what it's like.
That's what it looks like in the entire least.
It's very aggressive, very aggressive.
But I mean, actually, you know,
a lot of work sometimes, you know.
Sometimes it's awkward, you just realize
that you're just standing there and you're just like,
oh, fuck, it's awkward, isn't it?
Oh, so much work, you know?
I mean, it's just like, sometimes,
sometimes like, what's so great about blowjob
is that there's literally no pressure
to do anything, you know, right?
Because, you know,
because, you know.
Sometimes I get that moment where, like,
I get distracted for one second,
and I get taken out of it.
I'm like, fuck, I heard it do my taxes.
Fuck, now, now I gotta, now I gotta,
now I gotta pretend like I'm still,
I'm still there, I'm still in the zone.
Oh, yeah, oh.
Oh, oh, fuck, I really gotta file those taxes though.
Fuck, I really forgot about that.
Oh God, I can't do it now, can I?
That's gonna be really awkward if I,
if I don't do those now.
Babe, can I hear my laptop real quick?
Yeah, just gotta follow these taxes.
Stop interactive and, I'm joking, I'm joking.
But yeah, that's good, it's good.
All right, next one.
I was the, I already know who this one was.
This is fucking degenerate.
Which one?
Junengal Nogis.
Oh, you said, so bad.
Life consultation after 10 years.
Okay, be me, guys, be me, you sit there, right?
I only know, right?
I don't know one thing.
All right.
I know the word oromo, right?
And I know it means incest.
I know Gant likes incest for some reason.
Guys, as I said before,
Orimo isn't an incest anime.
It's just gonna incest in it.
This is an anime with incest anime.
This is very much an incest ocean.
I have not, I have not watched Oromo.
I open this thing.
Don't worry, you don't have to.
It's literally, I feel like I understand
the story of the anime through this.
Yeah.
Which is very concerning because fuck this is weird.
Whatever you're thinking about
is probably what happened in Orima.
There is so many things.
in this anime that made me like push my desk chair back
a little bit and go like.
Yeah, because this one I saw on the list,
I was like, oh, I've never heard of this one,
I'll check it out.
Fucking open up, it's Ormo fan fuck.
Oh, no, no, my one just, because I read mine in Japanese.
So my one just said, Juneo Ngo no Gisei Sorda.
And I was like, oh, okay, this one, you know, sounds interesting.
First page is literally just like,
Kirino with massive teeth, I'm like,
I'm like,
I'm like,
it's like,
all right.
Okay, I knew this one.
You did this for fucking troll, didn't it?
No, no.
No, you fucking did.
No, no.
Don't tell me you like this.
This is to me, probably the hottest,
like series dogen I've ever read.
What? Why?
Okay, because like I purposely avoided parodies.
Okay, I this, I thought we were,
I thought we, you know, I guess if that was the case,
I would have recommended like three of my favorites
are all parodies.
Yeah, so this was, this is like the only parody,
like parody, like parody dogeon that is on the list,
but like, I didn't know if we were avoiding parodies or not,
but I just wanted to talk about this no matter what.
You could do a parody episode in future.
And it's like, because like most parody,
most parody dosions, they last for like one chapter.
They ask like 20 pages.
Yeah, yeah.
This one lasts, this one's on an entire fucking story.
It sounds like 220 pages.
I felt like I was on like a, a fucking,
like big brother episode, like,
where this was just fucking never ended.
It just never fucking ended.
Not gonna lie, okay, we kept getting fucking weirder
and weirder.
With this one, okay, admittedly,
I don't like Oriima, like the show,
but I think Oriomo Dojans are hot as fuck.
Yeah. All right.
But here's the thing, like this one,
because all the characters are hot.
Oh my God.
But here's the thing, right?
Here's the thing with this particular one.
I've read a lot of Oriomo Durgens.
I've never read this one.
This one, I was like, okay,
first half I was like, okay,
this got kind of an interesting story.
Like you kind of get to see like the back story
of like the actual characters.
It gets real fucking weird.
And then second half like,
she just like turns into a yonder area.
Yeah, so can you walk me through the story?
Like, okay, okay.
Because I had to pull up the fucking Aramo wiki to understand
who the fuck everyone was.
Clues notes of Oromo.
It doesn't try and fucking ease you into these characters.
No, no, no, no. You know Armo. You're jacking off to Arno.
You know, you know what you read this.
I mean, what, okay, so to explain the, I guess,
I guess the basic premise of Orimo,
as well.
So, Kirozke,
is the main, the main sibling pair,
brother and sister, yeah.
And then all you need to know is also,
he has a childhood friend,
who I don't even remember her fucking name.
The glasses girl, right?
The one who's the wife in this day,
yeah, yeah, yeah.
Not mommy, what the fuck's her name?
Got, Matsumi or something else.
I'll look it up, but basically those,
those are like all you need to know
about the characters in this, right?
So in the ending of the original anime,
Kirano confesses to Kyosuke,
that which was like a fucking 180 twist
from like everything that was built up before, right?
And then, you know, they have a few dates together
and then they decide.
With his sister.
Yeah, with a sister.
Which, you know, they're not blood related, so whatever.
So it doesn't count, clearly.
Literally, they can't keep getting away with this.
The know you, they're like brother, sister, not blood related?
Fuck, man.
Oh, shut up, Connor.
Shut up.
Look, you recommended Mother's No Breast.
Yeah, exactly.
That's literally a guy in his stepmom.
That's just incest with an age gap, Connor.
It's different.
No, no, no, no, it's not.
It's not.
It's not.
It's a different thing.
Legally, it's different.
It depends, you know, if it's like the stepbrother,
I don't know.
I could be like, maybe, maybe, but no.
But this one's like, we're literally,
they're literally brother and sister,
and this is literally just the like,
the fucking card, they slither in
by the way, like by the way, not blood related.
God damn, what the fuck's her name?
What is it?
Just Google, just Google.
But this was just fucking weird.
So explain the story of this story.
Okay, so I'll explain it.
Manami, Manami, Manami, okay.
So this is, this is like kind of like a fan story
set 10 years after the- I got that, I understood that.
Yeah, 10 years, that's what I scored,
10 years after consultation or something like that, right?
So this is set 10 years after the ending of the anime,
where it has like a slightly different ending.
So in this version,
Kirino and Kiyosuke sleep with each other, right?
And their family finds out
and Kirino just gets fucking banished, right?
And they don't see each other for 10 years.
Understandable.
Understandable, banish the fuck out of it.
Parents doing what parents should do.
Exile your kid if they fuck your sister, I guess.
And so I guess this is set 10 years afterwards
where she comes back and they're both now married.
He has married his childhood friend,
which is like in the anime, her like Minami is like,
she's built up as like the plane girl, right?
She doesn't really have any special features.
The girl that will probably never win.
Yeah.
The girl that was never on the winning list to begin with.
But she's, she's built up as just the plain girl.
She's the childhood friend, right?
And in this version, he's the one that she,
that she's the one that he ended up marrying.
And Kirino has also apparently, after 10 years,
married someone else as well.
And this is the first time they've met after 10 years
and they think,
They're kind of like testing the waters
to see if they still have feelings for each other.
And it turns out, they do.
And it turns out they do, I guess.
Who tests the waters with your brother and sister
to see if you still have feelings together?
That feels like a very dangerous game.
It's like Russian rule.
Literally everything in this tag, bro.
Literally everything in this tag is that.
What if I just like put my dick in your hand?
Let's just see if I get hard.
That's a good task.
What if we just fought?
How weird with our being, right?
Okay.
So to explain my tastes, right?
To explain what I, like, why I thought this was like great.
Because for one, most parody dosions, they just like,
it's the most vanilla fucking storyline like ever, right?
It's just here's these two characters, they sex.
You are watching it because it's the characters you recognize
with this, what I liked about this is that it took the concept
of Orimo and it like built on it and started like started
its own fucking storyline.
I do appreciate that element.
Yeah.
It was like this is, this was actually a really story heavy dosions.
Yeah, I mean, unfortunately, I couldn't really appreciate that
because I didn't know fucking anything about the show.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was like this bitch crazy.
No, yeah, no, I did like the fact
that it built on the law of the original series
that it was based off of, but just,
it took like a fucking depressing, fucking turn.
Oh, it was fucking depressing as shit, right?
It's like, like, Kirino turns yandere
and then like threatens Kioske and then Mamimi gets like,
like, right.
Yeah, it's like, it's like this whole thing
just kept getting weirder and weirder.
So, you know, be me, I don't know anything about this.
You know, I don't know anything about this series.
Yeah.
All I know is that he got banished for fucking his sister 10 years ago.
And then they're like, oh yeah, we're gonna meet again.
Immediately fuck.
It's like no fucking down time.
Of course.
Just like, I don't even love my husband.
I love you.
And it's like, oh Jesus.
Well, it's because they both know what they want, right?
Yeah, I just like, no words necessary.
And I guess like for me, if I were to explain my taste,
what I find hot is like,
when a taboo gets broken, right?
It's like, it's not,
it's not the incest, okay?
No, I was about to say, I'm pretty sure
that's the one, one reason every person
who likes the incest taxis.
But like, like what I hate about most incest fucking,
like most incest fucking hentai, whatever.
It's like, one girl says, Onee-chan, incest.
I'm just like, get that shit out of here.
You know, I don't give a shit about that.
So you need the full backstory
of their brotherly and sister love.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
crushed in front of you.
Well, it's, it's not, it's not just between like step siblings,
step mother, step sons.
Like I like, you know, two co-workers who know
they shouldn't get together, they get together, that's hot.
Like, a teacher-student relationship, that's pretty fucking hot as well,
because it's- Oh, I understand, but it's like,
it's like what I find hot, it's like two characters
who know they shouldn't get together, but they're too, like,
they're too hot for each other to be able to stop it.
And they do it even though they know it's wrong.
And I don't know, man, to me like breaking-
No, I get that.
Breaking and Tabu is fucking hot.
I totally get that.
I think that's hot as well.
But then there's the scene where she just goes,
looting.
Like she just loses her mind.
For every moment I thought,
maybe this could be hot.
There's just something happened where I'm like,
God damn it, this is fine.
It's so great.
So there's this whole bit where he's having sex with the girl.
Yeah.
Which girl?
There's only two girls.
There's only two girls, yeah.
The other girl.
The boring one, as you said.
Yeah, and then she pulls up just a strap on for some reason.
And it just comes out of nowhere.
And it feels like, if this feels like,
it just felt like the DLC being tacked on at the end.
And it was like, you know what I love.
This was so rushed in and happened for like one second
and then it was never mentioned again,
it was never shown again, she just had it with her.
You know what I want,
she was just ready to go?
You know what I love about that scene with a fucking strap-on scene
where she like puts it into the wife
and she's like, it's too big and then he's like,
this is the same size.
is my big brothers.
So was he never, I'm like,
was he never serious with you?
And I'm like, oh my God, that's a burn.
She just got fucking burned.
This is the moment that like really puzzled me the most.
I just didn't understand why.
So, you know, he fucks his step sister or whatever sister
and has this whole thing and they have this thing
and he cheats on his wife and they have this whole weird scene
with that she fucks his wife and stuff.
Yeah.
I don't really get why that's happening.
But at the end, she's like, by the way,
I told mom again that we fuck.
And I'm like, why?
Why did you need it?
What is she?
I completely forgot about that as well.
I was just sitting there like,
did you really need to just tell your mom
that you fucked your brother again?
What are you trying to achieve here?
I was just like, what is this?
What is this?
I read that and I was like, well, that was unnecessary.
Yeah, I was like, well, this just went too far.
Your mom is probably just a very nice woman.
Let's be real.
You got dragged into this.
Yeah, what are you dragging the hell?
Your mom didn't need to do this.
Yeah, your mom's getting to an older age.
You gotta let a live a life peacefully,
knowing that you were a good son and brother.
It's like, beaty dobs mom, fuck my bro.
And then just leaves, and then leave.
Peace.
It's like, what's wrong with you?
What is wrong with you?
Why did you do this?
I just couldn't fathom it.
It's like, you don't see this in the,
you know, when you go on fucking, I don't know,
one of these porn websites, bang bros or whatever,
and it's the whole mom versus son step.
It's not the son's son's,
There's not a whole scene at the end.
You're like, okay, son, I'm gonna tell dad now.
You know, I don't wanna see that shit.
Don't include that shit,
because I already feel guilty enough for this shit.
Don't include that.
Clearly, this was supposed to be depressing, right?
Yeah, it's meant to be a depressing dosion.
Really?
Yeah, it's like if it was like scat porn,
like, right, let's do 10 whole pages where they clean it up.
Like, no, no, let's not do that.
The after man.
Yeah, get their cling fell babs, get the,
get the bleach, we'll clean this place.
No, I don't know.
I don't want to see this shit.
This felt totally unnecessary.
Why was this in the story?
Like you felt like here to wrap it up.
How does this wrap it up in any way?
To be honest, to be honest,
after like right before that whole thing happened.
No, no, right before that whole thing ended,
in my head I was like, how are they gonna end this?
And then that happened, I'm like,
well, I mean, that's an ending, I guess.
That is an, that's not the correct answer.
Okay, the ending was a bit weird.
Well, only that was a bit weird.
I mean like, the reason I really like this doion
was cause like the first two chapters.
Like when it started getting a bit NTIR,
I'm just like, ah, you're kinda losing me here.
They had us in the first half.
Yeah, they got us in the first half.
It was because to me the first half was so fucking well done
that I'm just like, okay, I'm always gonna remember this.
The art was very good.
I mean, the art was good, but to me,
to me it was the story.
Art was good and the way that they broke down the law
was really good.
Because it's so fucking rare for me to find,
like, hentai and the Jinchi,
that actually give a shit about the story, right?
Because like most, like, when you think of like,
for example, most brother sister hentai,
it's just, it's the most like simple shit.
It's like, sister comes in, wakes up brother.
Oh no, you're hard, I guess I'll suck you off now.
And I'm just like, like, that's dogen over.
Yeah, that's, that's literally every incest.
I'm just like, who gives a shit about that?
And like, cool.
Okay, no, I got a perfect thing.
I need spice with my hentai, okay?
Surprise, surprise, surprise.
Incest is not spice, God.
Incest has never been spice.
It's illegal.
I mean, that's, I mean, that's why it's always fucking step siblings and hentai, right?
They never, they never go the full, fuck.
They never do the full Monty, right?
Step siblings, stepmother.
You'd be surprised.
Okay, that's not the shit I watched that.
Joey's like, I can name a friend.
I can name, I can name like 10 off the top of my hand.
I'll tell you what it is, because it's, it's like that disclaimer that goes on like the beginning of every YouTube video.
It's like, this YouTube video is fair use.
This video is protected.
under fair use.
These siblings are not, Your Honor,
these siblings are simply step-siblings.
It is not illegal.
They are not blood-related.
They are just drawings.
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I am just playing devil's advocate,
because it's very easy to make someone who says,
I like incest look bad, so it's very fun.
I mean, I don't know why it's so surprising
when you're talking about Gantz,
I love domestic girlfriend, Gigac, you know.
The man knows his taste, man, what can I say?
I know my taste, okay.
I respect that.
Yeah, because to me, like I said,
breaking taboo, that is my taste.
Unfortunately, it's so fucking hard,
because 99% of hentai when it comes to like breaking taboo
are just like the most depraved NTR shit you can find
on like God's green earth.
Why is that so nasty?
Why is there so much of it?
So many people are intimate, man.
I don't know.
You know, you go on like the hentai releases.
And nowadays it's like 60 to 70% of it is just NTR garbage.
Yeah.
And it's like I can't nut to this.
Yeah.
A majority of Japan is nothing to it apparently.
All I wanna fucking see is two people
who know they shouldn't be together.
but just, you know, for like one fucking little rule break.
Have like a cheeky nando, you know,
have a cheeky little blowjob here and there,
you know, fucking, you know, have one or two hot nights
and then just-
Don't need to know.
And then just call it a day.
Unfortunately, hentai takes us as,
let's rip someone's life into pieces while we do this.
That's what I wasn't fond of with this one.
They were like, I'm just gonna tell mom.
That part really fucked me up.
I was like, why would you do that?
The part that made least sense to me
was just like, Kierna was just like,
I've left now, I've fixed their marriage.
I'm just like, in what way
have you fixed their fucking marriage?
The matchmaker.
I fixed their marriage
by literally getting my brother
to fuck me all over his house.
Every part of his house.
We've had like a threesome
where we're just not gonna be able to talk about for years.
I'm not gonna be able to look at my wife
in the eyes for like years to come.
Jesus, imagine if we have kids.
Like what the fuck?
I love how after that like fucking intense threesome scene
and like Curino leaves, there's just like this monologue
of Kioske being like,
Manami and I talked it out, we're mending our wounds.
I'm like, oh, it's not easy, is it?
Oh shit, all right, cool.
Just be like that.
It just be like, we just talked it out, you know.
Like, babe, I know I kind of just fuck my sister
and fucked you at the same time.
But I think we can work through this, right?
Happy wife, happy life, right?
She's like, yeah, I'm glad.
This is like never happened before, right?
Loonie tunes ending.
This is just a phase, right?
Yeah, it's just a phase, yeah, totally.
It just happened one time, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
The DNA test results have coming.
Cause like, when you see cheating in hentai,
normally it's like, you're like,
the person is cheating against this fucking faceless dude
that you don't see, right?
It's like, it's like a face.
I'm a fan of it, the character having an active partner story.
Yeah.
You know what I mean, that's the difference between cheating and NTIR, you know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And like, even fucking Kirano's husband comes back at this,
even though he's like a faceless fucking guy
and just beast the shit out of Kiyoski.
Like, where did that come from?
I love that.
And he was just like-
I love the ending scene too, because he gets absolutely,
the shit kicked out of him
and Kioski is just like, worth it.
He's like, right, I'm still protecting Kiroen.
I'm just like, what is going on here?
How did you think that would go?
How did you think that would go, huh?
But yeah, the reason this is one of my favorite series,
like parody Dojans of all time
is because of the first two chapters.
The first two chapters, 10 out 10, hot as fuck.
That is my exact taste.
I'm not gonna lie, the hot, one thing that really did put me off,
I didn't make a note of this.
I'm like, why is she being like,
he, he get me pregnant, but then be like,
oh, no, no, no.
That was really fucking weird.
Can we, can we admit that, that's kind of weird?
Wait, wait, okay.
And cheating with your stepbrother is really pushing it,
what I could accept to be like, oh, he's hard.
But then being like, she's like,
make me pregnant.
Literally the first time she meets.
And I'm like, what are I supposed to think?
What am I supposed to think?
Hearing this shit.
I might just be like, yeah, that's hard, dude.
Impranate your sister.
That'll show them, that'll show everyone.
I think this is, I, you saying this now,
I think this is shows that I've just been so desensitized.
You literally just, like,
it goes right over your head.
Like, because that, because I feel like,
that's just the, that's just the default
in a lot of hentire, right?
There's always that one panel in every hand in time
which is like make me pregnant or I'm going to become pregnant.
I am trying to be supportive of my friends taste.
And I'm reading this, you know,
and I wanna be like, good for God, you know.
But then like, it's literally again,
the amount of times I'm gonna reference
the fucking headset meme where he just rips it off.
It's like, I'm trying to get into this.
And she's like, make me pregnant.
I'm like, fuck, fuck, why? Why? What do you mean?
I think it's just because sometimes your taste are like,
like my taste is like so specific that it's,
it's kind of like, I'm willing to look over
some of like the weirder shit
or the weirder aspects of some hentai
if there's like this aspect that has done
like ridiculously ridiculously well, you know?
You sound like someone who's like
desperately digging for good hentai
after you've had it all.
You're like, I've seen something.
I need to feel something.
I'll forgive the weird fucking shit
just for a crumb of good blowjob art.
If it scratches,
if it scratches that one tiny itch,
That's all I need.
That's all I need.
This was fucking weird.
I did get this one of three out of ten.
Three.
Honestly, there was very few moments where I was like, this is hot.
And there's so many moments from like, fucking how.
Fuck.
Like, I don't even smoke and I wanted the smoke break after this.
This is a dogeon you read and you're like, I need a fucking smoke.
I don't even smoke and I was like, fuck, I need a cigarette.
Just like fucking look out my window and just be like, fuck.
A thousand yards stay.
But I feel like that to me, that's what makes a great dogeon.
Like if it can fucking a fucking a furs,
you in some way, then it's, it, that means
at least- If it changes your life.
No, that means that at least it's doing something right,
it's making you feel something, right?
Yeah, of course.
My dick's so numb, I'm just waiting for something to happen.
It doesn't matter what, disgust anything.
I'll make it work, like anything.
My dick is numb, but my heart aches.
Three out of ten.
What did you go get this one, Jay?
I don't know, I weirdly enjoyed this one.
Yes!
Fuck yes!
Yeah, oh my God.
This is why, you know, we need a me on this podcast.
to balance out the fucking degeneracy
we have over here.
This is how I know Joey's a brother.
I really enjoy this one.
I give this like a, it's probably seven or an eight.
Yeah. Yeah.
Story's spicy man. Again, it's a, it's a spicy-ass story.
This is not spicy.
Literally, the word spice went out the window
when he told a fucking mom.
That was when I was like, this is not spicy.
Dude, that's like, that's like last fucking panel.
You should have already nutted by then.
You don't give a shit about.
I don't want to, I don't want to get posts, not clarity.
And then also find out after,
He told the mom.
And that's like the biggest whiplash
of posting on clarity.
He'd be like, oh, God, oh, Jesus.
That's not spice, that's like a Carolina Reaper to the eye.
It's like, ah!
Oh, God, what would you get this one out of ten then
for you personally?
Nine.
Oh my God.
The good parts were so good that I'm just like,
I, to me, it's the most, like, the most unique,
like, parody dogen I've read so far
in terms of building on a premise
and being able to like, take this,
premise in an anime and just make a hot situation out of the bit.
The dildo burn did it for me.
Like that was hilarious.
Yeah, yeah.
That was fucking hilarious.
I respectfully disagree.
Moving on.
The next one was, uh,
Pissu Hame.
What does that mean in Japanese?
Pisu Hame.
Uh, Hame means to fuck and peace, peace, piece is peace.
Oh, peace fuck.
Peace fuck.
Yeah.
Um, so the premise of this one was a strange one.
Okay.
There was like, I guess, uh, kind of,
who's do you think it is, first of all?
Yours.
Yeah.
This seemed very much like a you thing.
Yeah.
But I also really, really liked the plot to this one.
Yeah, I really enjoyed the plot.
I love this.
Yeah, it's very good plot.
The plot was good.
So, okay, first of all, I did read the,
I was very, very confused
because it came with like a prequel.
Yeah, that's like the YouTube hook, right?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Where you have like a few pages to hook in the reader.
Where it was just like a bunch of girls
who had been taking photos of who were naked.
Yeah.
And I was very confused.
And then when I started reading it,
I almost forgot for a second.
I was reading a Dojin
because I thought I was about to get
some kind of sick fucking epic dojin about Kendo.
Kendo fighting.
And it very quickly became not that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like just for a second, I totally forgot
that I was reading porn.
Yeah, I thought I escaped
into a regular manga, you know, there was this,
you have this little, you know, the Chad woman
who is this amazing Kendo player,
very attractive, very beautiful,
and like the Simp guy,
who's like this very tiny, very wimpy-looking character.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then for some reason during the story,
she's like, oh, please, can you help me with something?
Yeah, obviously the wimpy character's like,
yes, of course, I'll help you.
So they go to the office, and there's the guy
who's in charge of the Kendo Club,
who's engaged to the, the hot girl.
Is he a student? I don't know if that's clear.
Yeah, he's a student.
But he's literally built like a motherfucker
whale on steroids.
Like this man is absolutely,
this man is like nine feet tall.
That's generous, like 15 feet tall,
Muscular, you know, and he's like,
this is my fiancee.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
By the way, I need you to take photos
of all the women at the school.
All the graduates, right?
All the graduates, naked, rude, being fucked, anything.
And then there's just, so many quotes in this
are just very funny to me because,
and then he's like, oh, is that the little wimpy character
is like, oh, is it okay that we take sexual photos
of the girls, it's like, oh yes,
all the girls have given their consent to this.
Literally the extra doubt.
Extra doubt.
Really?
Yeah, because it's a longstanding tradition in the score.
It's a longstanding tradition.
And I'm like, this is like some YouTuber cancel bait in the world.
How is this?
This is a tweet longer waiting to blow up, man.
How does this become a long-stant?
I wanna know that backstory.
Who started this?
How did everyone just come to gradually?
How did everyone give consent?
Yeah, I feel like this needs to be like a signed form
or something like.
I really wanna know more of the story.
There must be an ironclad contract to this.
Yeah, yeah.
Released Waivers out.
There's so many funny, they have given their okay to this.
That's what they say.
What I appreciate about this dogen is that I always appreciate a dogen
where it takes more than 20 pages to get to the fucking.
Yeah, right?
I appreciate that a lot about this.
Because, because like-
I literally experienced two hours of just the worst shit.
I read the RMO one before this.
I was begging for something that wasn't fucking awful.
So this was a breath of fresh air.
Because the difference between a parody dogeon
and an actual dogen is that parody dogeons,
if you're a fan of the show,
of the show or the series, you can skip the context,
because you know the context, you can build on top of that.
But like the real challenge with just a plain dojin
is that original, you know, original Takabon or whatever
is that they need to build up your investment
into the story by itself with no pre-investment
to any franchise or whatever.
And normally that takes a long time.
And I can appreciate when he went like 40,
he went like a whole chapter, I think.
Almost, yeah.
With no fucking.
And I'm just like, respect.
Respect.
Restrain.
I appreciate.
Yeah, exactly.
One thing I really liked about this one
is that like the whole, I guess, point is that like,
obviously he's gonna fuck the main girl.
But they hold off on it for so goddamn long.
Yeah. I appreciate that.
Wait, so did you read this whole thing?
No, I read about nearly two stories.
So two chapters.
Yeah, the first chapter was like 150 pages.
No, it wasn't.
There's like six parts to this.
It was, if you're thinking of the 500 page one,
those are 16 chapters put together.
Oh, well,
Well, it was, when I looked on the website,
I said six stories or whatever.
Oh, okay.
So, I mean, I read up, up until like.
How many pages?
Which way, which goal did you get to?
Which one was, I think he actually fucked the girl.
Okay, you got further than me then.
Which is like, I think it's like 200 pages in.
Yeah, but then there's still like 400 more after that.
Yeah.
Which I had, didn't understand.
But I was still like, all right,
this story's pretty hot because the whole premise is that he has to then go
and he's recruited this, this, this,
he's doing his job.
This rookie kid is recruited to,
to take all the naked and lewd photos,
you know, and if he has to help to get the photos done,
he does. Yeah.
So he just starts fucking everyone.
As you do.
I appreciate the hustle, you know?
I was like, you know what?
Good for him.
This is, you know, he-
He was scared at first, but then he gets more and more confident,
right? You know, tipped all the boxes.
It was like consensual, attractive,
kid coming into his own, getting pussy.
Good for him.
I was rooting for him.
It's a coming of AIDS story.
Yeah, and you know, I thought it was,
was very attractive that she was watching the whole time.
Yeah, yeah.
Giving moral support.
Who doesn't want that?
I love the scene where she just like,
comes around grabs his digging,
is like, you got this.
Yeah, yeah, it was like, IRL Twitch chat.
Yeah. With fucking, you know, it's like, you know,
it's like, you know, take the photo.
Take the photo, do you look up there, eh,
you know, it's good.
I'm surprised you like this one because-
I'm surprised you like this one as well.
Yeah.
This didn't see, okay, because this one-
I like the long game.
I like that they were reserved
with a lot of things.
Because this one is one of my favorite.
favorite diligence of all time.
The art style threw me off a little bit in the start.
It's unique, isn't it?
But then I got into it.
I was like, you know what I fuck with it.
That's exactly how I felt.
And then, you know, because obviously you can't just have the gimmick
of he goes to take picture, he fucks them, to get old.
So then they start introducing like these fucking battles.
Yeah, that's what I liked as well.
What I'm just like.
So fucking dumb, but I'm here for it.
The baiting battles, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So like, bet on something.
And so the first bet is that he has to choose
what he thinks is her favorite volumes
of her, like, lewd outfits, am I correct?
Yeah, yeah, so she's like, like, a gravier model
who does, like, sexual stuff.
And she's like, pick two of, pick two things
that I consider my best works,
and he's like, easy game.
And then if you pick them, I was already a super fan anyway.
And he's like, yeah, and he's like,
if you lose, you throw out all of your porn.
If you win, you get to fuck me.
And he gets a fucker, so congratulations.
And then there was another one where they did like wishbone breaking.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And with the grass.
That's like a really old Japanese game.
Yeah, and then he wins.
And then this 20 foot Kendo man is like,
hmm, he's so powerful.
He's won two betting games.
This kid's good.
And it's like, we need more photos.
Like he literally guessed Dojans
and then played Wishbone, a luck game.
What do you hear?
And he's just like, he might get all the photos this year.
Implying that some of them don't want their photos taken,
which is like, I was like, oh, that's a little weird
but I'll forgive it.
But it was, some of the later chapters
it does become like that.
Yeah.
I thought, you know what, fair enough.
It was, I see the vision.
Yeah, I appreciate the execution.
All around good fun for the family.
What I love about, cheers.
Yeah, cheers.
Cheers to that.
Cheers to that.
Cheers to consensual.
For the most part, I think.
I didn't get far enough.
I'm sad you didn't make it to like the,
pretty much like the finale or like the epic part.
I might be in future.
The epic because there's like a whole,
there's like three chapters.
Sal me on it.
Where there's a whole, there's three chapters
where the Wimpy kid, the main character,
fights the student council brick shit house
in a wrestling.
Oh, okay.
I knew that they were building up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was very obvious that that was gonna be a final show.
And while that's happening,
all of the girls that he's fucked
are getting like gang banged by the entire school.
And he's like, if you wanna stop this,
beat me in a wrestling match.
I was just like, you know, you know,
after reading all of Joey's recommendations,
like figured out Joey's tastes.
Like if there's, he recommends a dojian,
if there's a panel on it with more,
than like eight tits in one panel.
That's a Joey, that's a Joey Dojan.
Yeah.
Yeah, you're right.
I'm mad that you're right.
The more the merrier, yeah.
But like what I love about a story
and a dogen like this is when like they introduce
the one winning girl at the beginning, sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, she was the hottest.
Oh, 100%.
Yeah, I don't know how like dogeon artists,
they just know.
They know I'm gonna make this girl the hottest.
There's something about a support
You can't help but root for.
You're like, she's just helping,
she's just doing her part, yeah, fuck it,
literally.
It's like they must have like a talent
to be able to like make a girl that you know
is like, just radiates best girl energy, right?
Like, they just radiate best girl energy
and everyone just unanimously agrees that this is best girl.
And every girl is just like the losing girl.
So honestly, Shiaasana Okina, who's the artist,
he's like a fucking amazing at that,
because all of his other ones,
always introduces this like beginning girl.
Yeah.
And whether like she gets fucked in the beginning
or right at the end,
she's always ends up being the best girl.
Because throwback to the hentai episode,
the one thing that I did like about that one thing
that you picked, even though I didn't particularly.
Which one?
The one that was like the Edo era Japanese.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was like that, that's the one.
I was at least, at least like the fact
that they took three episodes
to build that shit up before they were fucked,
you know?
Yeah. I like it when they tease you.
Yeah.
Like, you know,
because you know, you can go on fucking porn hub
and you can skip two minutes in,
you're already at the fucking meet of it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I like it when they make you wait for it sometimes.
It's like, you're making me feel like these characters are worth it,
you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Because when they immediately put their pants down
and these fucking two other women, I'm like,
I'm not invested.
You've lost me.
It's a no from me.
Yeah, I like being able to wait to see the best girl, you know.
I'm impatient, but I'm patient.
You know, I'm also impatient.
Sometimes I'm just like, let's just skip to episode five,
Let's just see it, okay.
Like, but like, I feel like the best times
is like when you know there's a reason
to turn the next page.
There's a reason to like watch the next episode.
Like it's, you know, it's like Metal Gear Solid.
The best is yet to come.
You know, I don't consider the plumber turning up,
a riveting story.
Yeah.
Worth me turning the fucking page.
Yeah, yeah.
What part of the house is you gonna fit?
Oh shit, is it there?
Which kind of clog is it?
I'm fucking hyped to see what kind of clogs it.
I want to see all the size ranges he has.
Is it a grease clog or a fire?
fucking toilet paper claw, I can't wait.
You know, I mean, it's, I think that's the one thing
that at least I can appreciate about the dirgeon
is that you can kind of almost,
if there's a story, you can kind of read it
in your own pace and you can get the feel for it
that you want. I can, I can respect that.
I wish that I could read it.
And then the moment the fucking starts,
I'm like, turn on the anti-version.
Yeah. Well, this one actually does have a hentai annotation.
Yeah, I was about to say,
this one does have an anti- annotation.
You say that, is it bad?
It sounds bad.
It's Queen Bee.
Oh, I'm gonna watch it.
All right, I'm actually,
curious about your opinion.
I'm actually curious about your opinion
now that you're gonna go from like a Dojan
to an adaptation of that Dojan.
That you enjoy.
Because there's another one by Shios Norkina
that I was debating on whether to recommend
called Nude speech, which is...
I love the nudist speech, the hentai.
It's great. Yeah, yeah, that's the same guy.
Yeah, I like that one.
And the Dojin version is like one of my favorites
and also Kaho's favorite.
And we're like bonded over that.
But like, I was like, do I recommend it?
But like, Pi So Hamme just has a better story.
in my opinion.
I like the story a lot.
And I know you like stories.
With Nudis Beach, I was, you know,
when I watched that, recently,
I was like, you know what?
You know what you watch something,
you just know this is popular.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm like, I know this one.
I don't know anything about hentai
or doging community and what the fuck
they get up to, but I watched that
and I'm like, I bet this is famous as fuck.
Just from watching this, I'm like,
the shit's too cool.
Who adapted Nudis Beach again?
Queen Bee.
No, it wasn't.
It was good adaption though.
Was it?
I thought it was Queen Bee.
No, I swear I watched that and it was good.
I don't think it was Queen Bee.
Really?
I swear it was a good adaptation.
I swear it was.
But I gave this one.
What do I give this one?
I used one on nine out of ten.
Really?
I did, genuinely, I dig the story.
Honestly, that's really surprised me.
I thought you would hate this one.
Cheers to that.
Cheers to that.
Cheers, cheers to that.
Look at us.
Look at us.
Look at us.
Recommending each other four.
We are two for four, I think.
Two for four right now.
We're slowly converting him.
We're slowly converting him.
I'm not gonna say I'm gonna go home and read this shit,
or it's my preferred.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
If you gotta sit here and force me to read this shit,
okay, here's a question then.
Like, if you had just experienced this through the hentai,
would you have watched through the story?
Yeah, for sure, for sure.
Really?
I mean, most hentai I watched this story.
Really?
Because it's like 19 minutes.
It's not a hot, it's not a big ask.
That's the most unconna thing I've heard
in the history of this podcast.
As well, okay, you know when you,
I don't know if you do this right,
okay, I gotta ask.
When you're doing your business or something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If you, you know, you finish your business.
Yeah.
And it's like six minutes left.
Do you just save it for another time,
the rest six minutes?
Or do you just keep watching and see what else happens?
Save it. I save it.
Yeah, me too, me too.
Mom man!
I'm like, I'm like, this was so good
that I don't want to spoil the rest.
Yeah.
I'm a re-demean.
I've never connected to you on such a spiritual level before
until you just said that moment.
It takes restraint, but I'm like, you know what?
No, I could skip ahead and find the best part,
but no.
This is fresh content for the next time.
I agree.
Oh, shit, I agree with it.
Oh, Pog!
Because you don't want to spot, you get so limited.
You know, I've realized with hentai, it is literally like,
you know, it's like mining for diamonds in Minecraft.
You just don't get it.
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
You don't get the good shit.
It's like when you find a good shit,
When you find one of the good shit,
you gotta save that shit,
yeah, there's like 10 hentai
that I can probably, I can be like,
you know what, these are probably my favorite
that I can revisit.
But like they never come around
because we have so much, goddamn NTR.
It's fucking, it's awful.
And in the moment we don't get NTR, you know,
as much as I, you know, I can work with Queen Bee,
but I don't like it where every single non-NTR is Queen Bee.
Yeah, honestly.
What is happening here?
Can we not do this for 10 seconds?
Because I was, because just imagine me when I go on
to just like a regular hentai website,
NSE, Pirsu Hama, episode one.
I was like, my time has come.
My favorite hentai is finally been adapted.
When did they come out?
When did they come out?
The Dojin or the hentai?
Oh, the hentai.
A couple of years ago?
Yeah, it's quite recent.
I mean, I wonder, I'm like,
is Japan just ahead on porn?
Like, are they just, are they speed running it?
Is this where all porn is gonna go to,
where everyone in the world is gonna be NTR fans?
God, I don't know.
I really fucking hope not.
Because I feel like they're like five stages ahead
of like fucked up shit.
Oh yeah, yeah.
I mean, it's because Japan just accepts
any kind of fucked up hentai, right?
Are we, is this what the board is going towards?
Are we all gonna be NTR fans?
Are we all gonna be NTR fans in 20 years?
Here's the thing, there's obviously someone
out there watching NTR.
A lot of people, a lot of people.
I actually know someone.
I just, Sydney.
Well, there you go, point taken.
Oh, boy.
You literally just proved your own point.
You know, NTR, you know, sometimes is attractive,
you know, I will admit there are one or two,
where I'm like, you know what, they had me in the first time.
Yeah, it's not all that.
Which ones?
But I can't remember off the top of my head.
There have been one or two where I'm like,
you know what, this is good, but then I'm like,
ah, it's NTR, they're not gonna do it.
Not gonna do it, not gonna do it.
Because I'm like, you know what?
Like, does vanilla really have to die?
Because I feel like vanilla is the minority
of hentai that we get now.
It's very well, you just get a,
oh my, they like each other?
There's no cheating.
There's no sibling.
rivalry? Oh my God. I think it's because in the context of Japanese, I think it's because in the
context of Japanese audiences who read it, it's like, why would I read this when I could just
have it myself? Okay. Okay. But like, with your vanilla thing, do you count, for example,
step-siblings or step-parent, step-mother, whatever, if there's no other complications
other than them, for some reason, just being step-siblings or step-mother, is that vanilla
to you. I'd say yeah, probably. Yeah. I mean, that's pretty vanilla. I mean, that's pretty,
that's, that's probably the most vanilla you can get nowadays. Yeah, I mean, like, child's,
because the thing, right? Because the thing is, it's, it makes it even rare, right? Because all,
you go on any porn website now, it is literally all stepmom. Everything. Everything is step.
Really? Yes. Yeah. It's, yeah. Are you sure or is that just the shit you look up?
No, no, no, I kid you know, you go on this shit and all the most viewed shit is all step mom.
And I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, what is happening? I'm here for it. I'm here for it. I'm
I'm here for it, but like, when did this happen?
I don't know when it happened, right?
You know, you know, right?
Like, you see it too.
I think, wait, Malin, can you search up
some of the most search terms on porn hub?
Like, because I guarantee, I think stepmums,
okay, Ashley, Ashley, Ashley, you go.
I guarantee, like, I think it's either top three
or top five, stepmom is up there.
What happened?
Because I swear like five, six years ago,
lesbian porn was always number one.
Yes.
It was never dethroned.
And then all of a sudden out of nowhere,
in like the space of two years,
all the fucked up shit goes to the top.
What happened in those two, is this coronavirus
where people are like,
I guess NTIR's pretty good, huh?
I'm looking up the most popular tags for Dojans right now
and would you believe that Milf is in the top 20?
I mean, I'm not, I hope so.
But you know what's directly on top of that?
What?
Incest.
It's concerning.
No, this is not a celebratory moment.
I will take my crown right now.
Oh, but then you know what?
Fellow degenerate rise up.
Degenerate rise up.
Man, there are some, like, oh my God,
number 10 is Shotocon.
Actually, you're literally looking on Porn Hub.
Just search top, just search top.
Just search top.
You know, you're gonna open a Pornhub.
Your boss is sitting right next to you
and you're on Pornhub.
All the record, she told me to do it.
Maylene.
Maylene, what are you doing?
Stop corrupting Ashley like this.
What is the most search terms are like in the top?
It's literally they do it like a survey.
Yeah, they do a survey.
They literally do a survey and like a...
Speaking of Shota-com, should we get on to the next one?
Yeah, sure. Let's get on to the next one.
Seikatsu, Shukat.
Do you want to know?
The 2019, number one was amateur.
Number two was alien.
Those were the search term.
Search terms, search terms.
There, that's what you're going for.
So search terms, Japanese.
Japanese number one.
Number two is hentai.
Number three is lesbian, number four is nil.
Hentai is above lesbian, nil.
What?
What's number five?
Number five is...
No, Korean.
I swear it's like nearly, like, you go on these websites,
it is like Russia driving half of this shit.
Wait, where's step mum up there?
Seven.
Okay.
I'm Milf though, Stemmo and Milf are normally very like closely.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But also, dude, if you look at it,
the amount of people in Russia that watch hentai is insane.
Really? Hentai is massive in Russia.
It's insane.
Fuck, I didn't move to Russia.
Well, Putin's like, put mother-nose best
on my 90-inch OLED TV.
Well, I'll check off on my Italian leather couch
on my polar bear rug.
So, yeah, the next one.
Yeah.
Say Katz-ishukan.
Yeah.
I'm near certain Gant recommended this one.
It was me.
Are you?
I'm not gonna lie, I'm gonna say it right now, boys.
Yeah.
I like the hentai version of this one.
Yeah, the hentai version is fun.
Because, yeah.
Dude, you can't, the animation alone.
If you-.
In the hentai version of this is so goddamn good.
And I was so confused when I opened this doggian
because I was like, what is this story in the start?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is the shit story.
Get to the story I know.
Yeah, the good story.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The first story is just like.
Yeah, this is like, so this is like a collection of stories.
It's like two stories.
It's like two or three stories.
Okay, so there's two stories in this.
It's Seikata Shuka and I think it's,
so the first part is like a teacher
who fucks their student story.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And like this teacher is not very charismatic,
very creepy, very rapey, really weird.
You know, you get introduced this girl
and she's a little concerned, you know.
Yeah, she's like, why are all the guys
looking at my, my big, you know, big,
big, but don'tkees.
And, you know, and this teacher's
Oh, don't worry about it.
I'll help you.
I'll help you get used to them.
Because if you don't care about it anymore,
no one's gonna look at them.
And I'm like, genius logic.
I'm like, oh, okay.
And so he's like, oh yeah, just take your bra off in front of me
so you can get more used to showing them off.
And I'm like, oh God, all right, it's one of these.
Because it's just like, it's really rapey.
And like, ah, because you get, you did recommend
the next one that we'll talk about is a teacher one.
I think that's done much more tastefully
than this one shot.
Not a fan of this one.
Yeah, the one shot I didn't really want you to care about.
Well, the one show was like a hundred pages long,
though.
It was just, because it's like,
and this is the thing that I hate about hentai,
but this happens all the goddamn time.
Let me see it.
So, so, okay, one, one trope that I really am not fond of
in hentai is where the girl is like, no, oh my God, please don't.
And like, they're clearly being, I mean, you know,
sexually assaulted, really.
Yeah, yeah.
And then suddenly, you know, they start doing it,
and they're like, oh wait, I like this now.
And I'm like,
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Generally, did not enjoy this teacher fellow.
I thought he was a little bit rapy.
A little unpleasant. Yeah.
And like, I think I said this is an Henta episode.
Not really fond of that kind of stuff.
You know, to me it's just like, oh, okay.
And he's like, oh, I'm gonna teach you
how to be more comfortable with your booze.
I'm like, are you really?
Are you sure about that?
Did you say like the name of the dogeon?
Because I'll tell you, the name of the dogeon
is abstinence club, at least the first story argument, right?
Which is, it's obviously nothing about abstinence.
I'm sorry.
There's no abstinence to be found here.
It's quite the opposite.
You know, these are not good Christian girls.
You know, that's not what we're talking about here.
And there's two things that personally, I'm not really fond of,
or I'm like, ah, whatever, that come up in this, this dogeon.
First one being that apparently Dick can just convert your feelings entirely
and that you can just suddenly love it once it's inside of you.
I'm like, pretty sure that's not how it works.
No.
Whatever.
It's got to be pretty fucking good dick for you to do that.
You'd be surprised about how many times that propped up in hentai.
It's really in every single fucking hentai as well.
Where it's just like, huh, you don't want it?
Well, you obviously haven't had the giga Chad dick.
Let me introduce you.
Say that after you feel like a dick.
It's so fucking.
I mean dumb, I hate it so much.
Yeah.
And then also they had that whole fucking trope of,
for some reason this happens a lot in Hentai as well,
where, you know, the girl is having sex with the teacher
because of course she is.
Yeah, and outside is another student
who happens to catch wind of this going on.
And naturally, instead of being like, oh, God, oh my God,
and running away and telling friends, she's like,
I think I should start nutting.
I think I should start masturbating right now, right now,
outside.
This is a multiple time to nut.
Either winter or summer in Japan, which
are both wildly uncomfortable seasons
to be doing this outside, by the way.
So this is just a terrible experience over all
and I did not enjoy this first story at all.
I thought it was shit.
And I was really confused,
I was like, I really liked the anime version of this.
I thought it was really hot.
I didn't even remember this,
that this had an anime adaptation.
Cause like, I was, I was,
you remember if you've seen it.
No, no, no, exactly.
Because I was like, this name kind of rings a bell somewhere.
Yeah, same, same.
So I look at the anime, and then I look at the dogeon
and I was just like, these aren't the same fucking story.
Yeah, I literally thought I had made them
mistake.
And like, I was just like, they adapted the better half.
Yeah, yeah, smart man,
thankfully.
Because the first half is every the fucking dogen
that exists. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And every hentai, like, all right, whatever,
fucking teacher abuses power, yeah, yeah, whatever.
Whatever.
Whatever.
We'll get to the part you want to talk about.
Listen, okay, you know.
Let's get to the good part.
The animated adaptation of this one, I have seen.
I enjoy thoroughly.
I think it's great.
The animation, very good.
Because, because the boy is,
isn't actually a Shodokon makes it, in my head,
I'm like, free pass.
I'm like, it's free real estate.
Because he transforms temporarily.
So yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm willing to bend the rules.
This is like, this is like, if I close my eyes
and forget it's Connor's voice coming out,
I'm just like, man, is Joey fucking talking right now?
What is what is going on?
Yeah, that's like, that's like a media.
Are you okay with Shodokon's Conner?
Is that what you're saying?
No, I know, I have watched,
I don't know what that other famous one is
that always comes up with like,
a big, big milfs and the tiny, tiny kids.
Oh!
That I do not, I fucking, I fucking hate that one.
That one is fucking disgusting.
Yeah.
And I accidentally watched it and I thought,
oh God, oh, you know what I'm on about.
If you've seen it, it's this vile shirt-a-foot milf, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's fucking disgusting.
Because it's like fucking watching a tack on Titan.
You know what I mean?
It's like a POV, the fucking colossal Titan fucks you.
It's like, I don't want to.
I don't want to watch this. I don't want this. I was just like, this, this, this, this, this
this dojin disappointed me so fucking much, right? And, and, and the, the hentai also
disappoints me. Right. Because you know why? Do you know what the worst, do you know the only
thing worse thing than a lolly? I, I agree. I agree. Because, because, because the thing is,
with, we're, we're equal in my hate. Right. Because like, no, no, it's, they're not equal to me.
Because with lolly hentai, I was like, I was never going to jack off to you anyway. It's
whatever. I can just skip over this. The one reason why it's so far,
fucking hard to find milf hentai
is because 90% of them are Shodokon.
And the thing is, most of them have like
the fucking hottest milf, like perfectly crafted milf
from God.
Perfectly crafted.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't think this is that many.
I think you're over exaggerating a little.
That's what it feels like to me, right?
And I'm just like, all right, I'm in this,
I'm invested, I'm ready for this hentai.
And then the fucking Shoda comes out
and I'm just like, you are this close to greatness.
We had it!
And then you lost it!
They had us in the first off.
You know, I can understand the frustration.
Yeah.
But I think this is an exception.
Hell yeah.
You know, if I had read the Dogeon, I thought, so what, so what?
Another, like, B tier.
But you watch the anime version, you're like, this has a place.
S tier.
I'm like, okay, now we're talking.
Now we're talking.
This is such a...
This is such a shamlan twist for me
because I thought you were gonna hate this one.
No, I, dude, how can you-
I thought you were gonna hate this one?
Because it has a loy-and-a-shoddha in it.
Okay, the lolly one, I thought was,
I don't know, I really like the redhead girl.
Yeah, the red-ha girl's hot.
Yeah, I was just like, red-head girl,
it's fucking hot.
Yeah. Shoda, why?
Why? I think.
It's like, it's like if you have
the fucking Mona Lisa and you just decide
to fucking piss on it, you know?
Do you ever see something that happens in porn
that it like, like,
hit something where you're like,
oh, I didn't know I was into that,
but that's very nice.
Yeah, that's what I like search for every day, man.
Well, yeah.
Try to feel like craving every day.
You know, there was a scene in it
where she like gives a hand job at the dinner table.
I'm like, I don't know why that was very attractive,
but I was like, I'm into that.
The redhead girl. I'm into that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm like, you've sold me, I wanna invest.
How do I invest in this?
Stonks.
Put my money in this stock.
Stonks.
Put my money in this stock.
To the moon.
That kind of shit, I'm like, I'm here for it.
But like, I know it's terrible,
just like my body, my mind's telling me,
my body, it's like, it's like literally that.
It's like, I know, I know this is fucked,
and I, you know, I'm always very, very hard
on you guys with this kind of shit.
So I feel like it's very hypocritical.
Well, I mean, I'm just happy we found out
that you have a new favorite fetish,
which is cheeky handjob under the table.
Honestly, cheeky hand job at the family table.
What's a better genre?
I like danger in mind.
You like a bit of spice?
I like danger, not spice.
I don't want to go on spice.
That's me.
That's me.
I like the fact that anyone could walk in.
I like that kind of shit.
Right, right, right.
Like that's having a danger wank.
That's what he does.
Danger wank.
I'm not out here in the fucking,
the taxi wanking.
That is, I'm not saying that,
but a little bit of spice, a little bit of danger.
I didn't say it, a little bit of danger,
adds a little something to it.
Danger wank is gonna be my next double.
But also every single, you know, again,
like my love for like,
This thing is purely based on the,
this is not even a Dogeon thing at this point.
The Dogeon was mid when I was reading it.
Right, right.
Okay, so review it.
Cause you are talking about the animation, right?
Because the animation is so goddamn good.
Pink Panop were like,
Finna bring my A game to this one.
For some reason.
Because like, I completely agree.
Watching the animation of this,
the animation for hentai standard,
is fucking God, what happened?
I need to know what happened.
This is also like, I'm surprised
that no one recommended this
on a hentai episode, right?
because it's just that famous.
I was going to, but then I thought he would hate it.
No, I like this one.
I like this one.
Because I was like, I don't know if Conner's into Shoddha or not.
No, I'm not.
Most of it, I absolutely despite, this is probably the only one
where I'm like, that's hot.
Really?
Yeah, this is the only one I've ever seen.
That's like, I think this is good.
That's really surprising.
I'm learning a lot about you today, Conner.
What can I say?
I'm willing to bend my morals.
All right, so just purely just based on the dosion out of 10.
Like a six, five.
Six.
It was like the first story really ruined it for me.
The first story was so basic, so bland, so insulting.
None of the characters were hot.
The teacher was fucking just not even remotely attracted.
I was not into the teacher character at all.
And we'll get into the next teacher character.
What I'm getting out of this is like,
what if, like, fucking Euphotoa animated some lolly hentai?
Would Connor enjoy it because their animation's that good?
I don't know.
Listen, in that episode, I was saying I like my hentai animation bad.
Because sometimes I feel like a...
Oh, yeah, you did.
I completely forgot about that.
I feel like it serves the story better
to have like bad animation.
Because sometimes the fucking isn't that great.
And I'm like, you know, that's fine.
We are talking to the one and only fan of Milky, right?
Yeah.
But this is one of them where I'm like,
the animation is so goddamn good,
where it feels like this is better
than most anime we've been getting recently.
So it's like, what am I supposed to do?
You know, wrong.
How can I hate on this?
This is just so goddamn good.
I'm not saying I want all hent up to be like this,
because God knows we'd get 50 NTRs animated like this.
And I might can't take that,
that would be 50 NTRs.
Unfortunately, the NTRs are like some of the best animators.
They are, they always are the best animated.
I hate it.
I hate it.
It's like they draw this ugly bastard
with the detail of a Mona Lisa.
And it's like, why would you do this?
What is wrong with you?
How is the staff okay doing this?
Like, I just don't get it, but it's fine.
It's like, they're just playing nut chicken, right?
Because it's just like, are you willing to nut to this?
Are you willing to not to this animation?
We can't always have a masterpiece.
I've accepted that not everything
can be a masterpiece, you know, literally,
the animation watch it, it's great.
But yeah, this is good.
I like the animation.
The story was kind of shit,
but the animation very much saves the story.
You just reviewed the Hentai,
not the Dojian, by the way.
Essentially, I mean, I genuinely,
when I got to the second heart, I'm like,
seen it, skipped it.
Yeah, I already know exactly what happens.
And I went through to make sure.
It was like one for one the same as well,
so I was like, whatever.
Was there a reason why you suggested this, Dojan?
Um, it's just the first one I thought of
when I thought like, you know,
all the girls are hot,
like, it's just an interesting premise.
like, yeah, I don't know.
Like, again, this is another one where it's like,
as long as you're okay with the whole Shoda thing,
it's very inoffensive.
As long as you're,
that's a very big ass.
Just get over the Shoda, it's fine.
Just pretend you're the Shoda, it's all right.
I don't know, is it one of those things,
like, is it because I'm a guy
where I can forgive it a little less?
Is that why?
What do you mean?
Like with the Shota in this case,
am I making an exception because I'm a guy,
and I could be like, you know,
he's an adult in the start of this thing.
Right, but if he was like,
a full on kid.
It was genuinely a kid, I don't think I couldn't.
I mean, this is like a very deep conversation
that I don't feel we have time to explore
on this podcast.
Maybe on a later later.
Maybe on a future podcast.
Definitely one of these things where I'm like,
I hate letting the exception, like,
I hate letting them be like the Uno Reverse card,
kind of save it, but like for this one I'm like,
it kinda does though for me.
Like he acts like an adult, he is an adult, all right,
Fuck it, all right, I'll let it slide.
But like the thing that, the thing that turns me off originally
was that he didn't know that he wasn't a show to.
They like, you know, the girls didn't know
that he wasn't a show either.
They did think it was weird when I first watched it.
They suddenly into him now that he's a kid.
I'm like, yeah, because all the calls are into show-
And I'm like, there's a few things,
we're unpacking.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
So it's kind of like when you have the siblings fucking,
but then they be like,
but they are step siblings.
No, no, no, no.
Because there was-
This video is under fair use
and not under copyright law.
No, because there was no moment
where she was like, I'm gonna ruin your life.
I'm gonna impregnate you, impregnate me,
ruin my marriage.
There was none of that.
That's pretty fucking hard to deal with.
I don't want a marriage is being ruined
while I'm trying to have a wank.
Like you know what I mean?
That's not what I want to deal with.
All right, second one last one.
All right, second last one.
Which is Kioshi, Tō, Seito, teacher and student.
Yeah.
So this one's obviously Garns because the last one's mine.
You know what? I had this down as Gantz, actually.
Okay, perfect.
Which I guess, again, like,
Again, like I'm shunked that I got some of these wrongs.
I thought it would have got them right out.
Yeah, I'm shocked you got it wrong too.
I thought it would have been fairly obvious.
I thought it was just because, you know what it was?
Because me and God had the conversation the day
where gone mentioned the word shota
and I'm like, this gotta be gone.
He said the word.
He said the word.
He said literally said the word shodda to me
like a week ago, it must be gone.
He's trying to fucking inception my ass.
Yeah, I mean, this one was weird
because I thought the premise was really quite attractive,
you know?
I thought it was quite hot.
And then suddenly things just started happening
where I'm like, ooh, I don't know, I don't know about this.
Really?
So let me explain the premise, shall I?
Yeah, yeah.
So a teacher who works at the school is broke, I guess.
Very broke.
Very broke.
But she has a job.
Very broke.
Full-time, you know, teaching, which I feel.
Yeah.
Obviously some pain the dog.
Seems like everyone else is managing fine.
So her genius solution is to ask one of the kids
whose dad owns an apartment complex.
Yeah, he's a rich kid.
to just stay in his house.
And so he says no,
because he's a very responsible Chad child,
says no, he says no to this woman.
No, no, you might teach you,
you can't stay in my fucking apartment.
Why the fuck would you?
So she turns up at his door,
naturally, as you do,
as you do when you've been rejected,
just fucking turn up at their door.
This is already extremely wildly inappropriate
for HR standards.
And she'd invite yourself in.
And then she just starts living with him.
And mad props to the kid, pushes her away
and says no, like 10 times,
that has to be rewarded.
Claps to you, Chad.
King shit, but it's a dogen,
you could only last so long.
But the fact that he said no a bunch of times,
I respect that.
Right.
Expecting, you know, he's respecting
the HR standard to the workplace.
Yeah, frankly, for a kid, very professional.
Yeah.
I notice I'm calling HR, how did this woman get this job?
It's what I did write down.
because she's essentially just trying to fuck this guy constantly.
And I'm just wondering like, how does she get this job?
What's going on here?
What was going on here?
Probably did a sneaky hand job under the table.
Did she try to fuck the guy?
From what I remember.
She definitely did.
Did she?
Yeah. She literally grabbed his dick out and started sucking.
Oh yeah, the first time around.
No, that was the first time.
That was the first time around.
Before that, even before she even came to his house,
she's like, do you want to touch my boobs?
I'll let you do it if I get to stay in your house.
But she said it like joking way, right?
Cause she's like supposed to be like,
She's a fucking teacher.
She can't say that shit jockey leader of this student.
It's a Dogeon.
It's a-
Wait, can I have a beer, Ashley?
Can you get me a beer as well?
From the fridge.
And a beer for this shit.
Yeah, I can't talk about this shit
without a drink, you kidding.
We run out of wine.
All right, so to explain why,
I guess to give context to why I chose this.
This is one of my favorite
Dojan artist.
It's an artist called Food
I don't, I don't think a lot of Fuga.
Yeah, I didn't know how well known he was,
but this man is to me the king of vanilla.
Yeah. Like, this man's, like, his art is like,
I would say, like, about average, maybe a bit above average, you know.
It's about average, but like, why I love his work so much
is that his, like, stories and characters are so fucking good,
where there are some points where I feel like
I'm not even reading a Dojan, I'm just, I'm just reading
a romance manga with sex scenes out.
with sex scenes.
I wanna, I wanna agree with you so bad.
I wanna, but there was so many moments
where I'm like, nah, bro, this ain't it.
Is it the incest?
Is it the incest?
Of course, there's incest.
The incest side story, right?
So, let me explain the story first,
and I'll build up to, you're probably wondering,
why is that incest in this story?
This doesn't, this, no,
con of it even mentioned incest.
Why is there incest in this story?
Great question.
I'll answer why there's interest in this story.
So in this story,
Like I said, you know, she moves into his apartment.
For some reason, he doesn't kick her out
or try to get, like, his dad to kick her out.
She lets her live in there.
And, you know, they both explain to each other.
They're frustrated because they haven't been able to jack off
because they're both always around each other.
Yeah.
And so her solution is, well, great, I'll just make you not.
Yeah.
As any good teacher was, apparently, so they start fucking
and then it becomes a thing.
And, you know, it's very honestly, like,
I will admit, it's quite attractive up to this point.
Yeah.
It's done very tastefully.
considering the fact that it would be very illegal
and very concerning in real life.
In Dogeon form, very tasteful.
I thought it was done really well.
I was on board.
I would say the reason for that is because, like,
there's a good like 40 to 50 pages
before there's this first sexy.
True, true, true, and like...
You hear this premise and you think,
okay, I've seen Dogeon's like this before.
They fuck one of like the third, fourth page or something.
No, there is like...
It was tasteful.
There is 40 full pages of characterization.
And that's the thing, that's why I love this Dojan artist
is because he gives a shit about,
characterization.
I'll say that there was,
he definitely took the time and again,
like I'm saying like, you know,
obviously in real life, the shit,
this shit is fucking weird.
But it's totally right, so you set
the kind of disbelief apart.
And it was done really well.
I'd say up to this point,
it's done really well.
What are you gonna say?
No, I was just gonna say,
I fucking love this one.
I was, I was, honestly, I was so into this.
I was like, this reminds me of like,
an early 90s shown in Jump Romcom.
Yeah, it does, doesn't it?
Like, with like the art
and like how it's past
and like the characterization.
I'm like, I fucking love this, dude.
I'm not just here to hate, you know.
I agree, it was hot, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Up until this point, I was like,
they're hitting every mark, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
They've done this about as tastefully as you can.
A little weird of hearts.
Was it chapter three?
It might have been chapter three.
So first of all, right?
We get this whole, like, I mean,
the whole reason why they fuck is because there's a rumor
going around the school that she's dating a teacher.
Yeah.
And the teacher's like, like the vice principal, right?
The vice principal.
And the vice principal was like, yeah, we're dating, kid.
get over it.
Yeah.
He's like, no, no, no,
he turned to tempt him to hotel
and he tried to come on to me, we didn't fuck.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then out of nowhere, like,
like fucking Randy Orton slithering in,
his sister comes into the play
and is like, by the way, I love him,
I'm gonna fuck him now.
And then they start fucking.
And I'm like, what is going on?
Where did this come from?
Why, why, it's like, it's like,
this incest which was just like,
allow me to introduce myself.
Like, why did this, why is you-
No, it wasn't allowed me to excuse myself.
It came in like the Kool-Aid man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Exactly.
Incessed.
Like, like to this day.
Out of nowhere.
They just saw fucking insist her,
and then she leaves and it's never brought up again.
Why?
Why not?
To justify it to me.
No, no, no, no.
I'm not justifying yet.
Why do you like incest so much?
What the fuck?
I fucking hated the incest in this one, okay?
God, what the fuck was that?
The reason I fucking love this one,
teacher-student relationship,
done fucking tastefully as fuck.
Yeah.
Like this, like, okay, chapter three, he,
like, she doesn't fuck the main guy.
For some reason, like, there is just this,
like one of his classmates comes in
and it's just like, I've run away from home.
And that's right.
That was weird too.
My sister is harassing me.
Yeah, my sister, okay, so you go.
To correct what Connor said, it's,
the sister doesn't fuck the main guy.
It's just these two side characters
who just ran, who is the brother's sister
who just randomly fuck for no fucking
I don't know why it's there either.
It's not the main character.
No, no, no.
It's the main character's friend.
It looks so much like you.
It's just, it's the main character,
but less Chad.
Yeah, yeah.
It's like the main character's friends shows up
and he says, I've run away from home,
and then he finds out,
Yeah, my sister's been harassing me.
And then he, and then so.
This is even more concerning,
because it has absolutely nothing to do with the point.
The main story, right?
That's what I'm saying, it's just like a fucking team.
His friend finds out that the teacher and student
are living together.
and he's like, oh, okay, that's fine, whatever.
And then the sister comes along and was like,
the sister comes to the teacher and is like,
do you know my when little brother is?
I heard he went to your place or something along those lines.
And so the sister comes in and she's like,
this is, this is mine, he's mine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then they start, I don't even know who he is.
And then the little bit of who you are.
And then the little brother starts like,
and then she starts fucking sucking his dick or something
in front of the teacher and the teacher's just there being like,
so like, all right, you guys, you do you.
Like, why, the teacher.
This is just like fucking Mike was outsy face,
just like, this is why I was like,
I was like, what the fuck was that?
Like I was literally into this headset meme.
I literally take it, I'm like, what is this?
Like, why do they do this?
Like every time you get into it,
a random side story comes up,
there's absolutely fucking nothing to do with the story
and it's shit.
I thought that side story was fucking hilarious.
It takes you out of it.
No, it was funny.
Yeah, but you're in the wrong way, it was shit.
It was so shit.
I mean, I mean, it was, it was so,
out of place for like the rest of the to-
ocean. Because it's only one chapter.
It's only one chapter. It's a side story that I don't know
why this side story's in here.
Put it at the end. Put it at the end.
Because it literally had no effects on the story
and the character, they don't call back to the characters
at fucking all. Like I don't know why this side story's in here.
But the point is like, the reason this is one of my favorites
is that the relationship between the student
and the teacher is like, howled so well.
And it's just like you don't, you can never read
to fugodogian and just not come out,
just like with a warm, fuzzy feeling.
I agree.
I agree with that.
What is, what, what are you laughing at, Connor?
Why, why are you laughing, Connor?
Because there's a few, there's a,
I gotta stop you right there, I gotta stop you right there.
Okay.
There is one moment where I was like,
oh, I don't know about that one chief,
where she's like, she's like,
guys, I have an announcement to the school.
I've been fucking one of the students.
And I'm like, it's a good idea.
Really, I don't think this is a good idea.
Well, like, it's completely in character though.
Isn't it?
Like they've built her up as just someone
who just doesn't give a fuck.
Yeah, but I'm thinking, I'm sitting here like, all right,
all right, she did it for love.
I respect it, I respect, I do, I do.
But I think about your career a little bit.
No, she doesn't care.
You don't not employ, you literally just admitted
to a criminal offense, I'm pretty sure,
like in front of everyone.
No, dude, she was just like,
I love this guy so much,
I'm willing to quit my job.
Your honor, it was love.
Yeah, it was love.
You've been sentenced to 10 years in jail.
That's why it's Holsmund's fuck.
She, she sacrificed her career.
Yeah.
to declare her love.
And I'm just like, exactly.
I'm just like, this is a dogeon.
I don't care, you know, I don't care about the legal ramifications.
She obviously didn't get any.
The point is that like, it was building up to a point,
like, what, what, listen, I will admit,
the ending was somewhat sweet.
I will admit.
A part of me was just like, did you really have to announce
to the school?
Did this really, could you know,
that's the dramatic scene.
Yeah.
It's not like the Shrek fucking wedding.
You don't have to be like, Lord Farkwood,
you cannot marry her because I'm,
going to marry. You don't need that. You know, it really doesn't add anything.
You could have just been like, you know what, I'll see after school.
Graduate, well, fuck. You know, that could have been.
No, but that's boring. Yeah. I mean, I mean, it was, it was dramatic.
Yeah, it was, it was, it was, you need the draw. You need the drop. You need the spice,
motherfucker. That's the Pog moment where you're like, oh, I can't believe she just said that.
Like, when he confessed to her and she just went, I know, I'm just like, oh, oh shit,
son. She did not just say that. What? What? I mean, she's literally been
fucking riding this boy's dick for 10 months.
Of course she likes her.
That's how this shit goes.
But that's what I loved about this Dogen
is that it reads like a 90s rom-com
because there's so many moments like that in 90s
rom-coms that I've read where I'm just like,
I mean, of course, like, of course you would do that.
I was so fucking invested in these characters,
in this character's relationship,
more so than like any other Dojan
I've read, apart from his other works.
Like, the only reason I really chose this was, of course,
Gant, teacher-sudent relationship.
Of course I'm gonna fucking love that.
I mean, you know, as taboo as it isn't real life,
it's very attractive in-
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't think about the legal ramifications
when I read Doja.
Sometimes I do, I'm sitting there and I'm like,
fuck, dude, like, how many years am I getting for this?
Yeah, how many...
Well, like, this isn't even his, like,
most highly rated works.
There's, like, one, which I would say is, like,
the Tidododoo Children of Hensai.
If you remember Tidu-Di-Di children,
it's like an anime that focuses on different couples,
kind of like, and,
getting together and it's wholesome as fuck.
And his work is basically like that,
but just with the fucking included, right?
You get the same kind of character development,
you get the same kind of care in the characterization
as you would in any other fucking manga.
I would say there was big props to,
you know, making me actually give a fuck about the story.
Yeah.
Despite the weird side story, again,
I really wanna know what the thought process was.
I'd love to be in.
In the board meeting, I wish I was there.
So I could be like,
I thought it was fucking hilarious.
It was, but it also just like,
I was like halfway through reading this chapter,
I was like, I know this was gonna have
no ramifications on the story,
but it's just hilarious to read.
I was just like, because I knew when I recommended this,
that it was that scene that was gonna get brought up.
And I- Of course it is, how could I'm not?
I knew it was just gonna be the moment
where it's just like, gone, this your man?
I'm just like, this, this is not my man's.
This is not my man's.
This is not my man's.
Come get your man.
All I'm saying, right, is that two out of three,
have incest gone.
What's up with that?
What's up with that, you know what I mean?
Whatever.
He just, man, he likes it, man.
Leave the man alone.
This is good.
I like it, because I get to be the judge
jury and executioner here,
and I don't have to show my taste.
He didn't have to show your taste.
I don't have any taste.
Oh, we roasted you enough in the handpipes.
Yeah, I put up on his breast up.
Come on, I'm gonna go.
Stand by my words.
But yeah, I mean,
out of 10?
What do I give it out of 10?
Let's look what I give it.
Uh, uh, uh, seven out of 10?
Oh, not bad.
I thought the good moments were very, very good.
The story was pretty damn good.
Yeah.
A few moments where I thought, ah, yeah, all right, whatever.
Yeah.
And a few moments where I'm like, all right,
a little too much keenness from this lady in the start.
I'm like, there's no, why are you into this kid?
Is there any reason why? Is it purely the world?
I don't think, I don't even think she was into the kid at first.
Really? Right? Because-
She's just joshing around. Yeah, she's-
What kind of a woman Josh-you-Hia-Hia,
he's gonna fuck around and live in your apartment, bro?
She's like, she's like early 20s, like,
she doesn't get a fuck.
Like, the reason that, like, she used, they used the cat analogy,
so much was because she would just basically
was a stray cat, right?
That was like the analogy.
I get it, I get it.
Right, when I'm just like, she doesn't give a fuck.
Again, a good story though.
It was the first time where I read a Dojan
and I looked at like a character and I was like,
you're not even hot, you're just cute as fuck.
Yeah, honestly, the reason, the reason this is my favorite
of his works is because I fucking-
I fucking think the teachers, like, I love the fucking teacher, man.
I think she's cute as fuck.
Yeah, she's, she's cute as fuck.
The fangs, like, the fangs, like,
bro, that does it for me.
Seven out of tens.
All right, but what's most important
is this final one.
Okay.
It's neither gone or my recommendation, or rather it's both of our recommendations.
It's both of our recommendations.
It's one of the scarm me.
We were never going to do a Dogeon episode without talking about metamorphosis.
One of the most legendary dogeons out there.
Okay.
Connors never read it.
Before you start, I got something to say.
I have a confession to make guys.
Oh no, what are you gonna say gone?
Fuck.
I have before this never read Metamorphosis.
Really?
Yes.
Wow.
Metamorphosis has been my...
My full metal alchemist, a hen-eyed.
All that took was an episode of making it do it.
Congratulations, you did it.
It takes 10 fucking minutes to read.
It's not long.
It's not 10 fucking minutes.
It's like a 20, 30 minute read.
Yeah, yeah.
But like, it was the one where I'm just like,
people have talked about it so much that I had just been putting it off.
Yeah.
So it was that one hentai when I'm just like,
I will read metamorphosis when I am ready to read metamorphosis.
I will say, for all I've heard about this,
I almost expected there to be more fucked up than it was.
was. Did you feel that way?
It was pretty fucked up.
Okay. But because of the reputation it had,
I expected it to be.
You overhyped yourself.
I think it was gonna be even worse than it was.
So did you just hype up the fucked upness in your head?
Well, you know, I mean,
I've been an anime fan for a long time.
You hear about this constantly,
it's referenced constantly as being that one fucked up thing.
Yeah.
You know, and I, you know, it's fucked up for a vanilla audience.
Yeah, I've watched the final season
in Game of Thirons.
I know true disappointment.
And that's, this is kind of,
of what it felt like a little bit.
I was like, this is fucked, don't get me wrong,
it's very fucked up.
It is fucked.
But I almost expected something worse.
Like I almost expected like absolutely horrific shit.
Well, I think it's because you've already put your foot
in the dogeon and like, hentai wall.
Yeah, I mean, I know, I know the amount.
This is like grade A fucked up
of someone who's like never stepped foot into that, right?
I feel like I've seen S-T are fucked up
and this is A-tier fucked up.
Like it's very fucked up and very uncomfortable.
Maybe it's just more accessible.
I'm not really sure why this one has gotten a not
I think it's because this was one of,
I think this was just that one Dojin
that really just got around, I guess,
for whatever reason it is.
And I'm like,
I should you explain the premise?
Yeah, metamorphosis is a very,
very well known Dojin.
Yes.
About a girl who, you know, she doesn't,
she's not the prettiest girl out there
and then she gets a makeover and then suddenly.
Literally takes off her glasses.
Takes off a glasses put off, puts on a bit of makeup,
Becomes hot.
Becomes hot and then guys are suddenly attracted.
You have seen this beginning panel somewhere.
If you're in the anime community,
you've seen this somewhere.
It's iconic as fun.
Even I know what this panel is.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then I didn't, I didn't know any of the other panel,
which is this is the before and this is the after.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Completely different character.
Yeah.
And then this character is just shocked
that guys are now paying attention to her
and that they wanna fuck her.
And so she starts fucking these guys
and he gets really derailed, really
Yeah, it's a big yikes of a read.
I mean, how do I explain it?
I mean, here's, okay, let me, let me just,
I put some notes down while I'm reading it.
Go on, go on, okay.
Seems normal so far, not fond of how his dad reacted
to her makeup, of her dad reacted to her makeup.
Wait, what's in was that?
Makeover, makeover, not gonna live.
Oh, yeah, yeah,
and she gets a makeover and the father's like,
oh, okay.
I was like, I don't like that.
You won't believe what happens next.
I was like, I do not like that.
I do not like that look he gave.
This does not mean good things.
And unfortunately, I was correct.
Top 10 foreshadowing moments.
Literally, watch Mojo, you can take this
from the top 10 short foreshadowing moments in anime.
Yeah, so you know, a kind of sleazy dude
kind of uses her for sex, you know, and then gives her drugs.
Yeah, I think the biggest aspect of the story,
which I've never seen in any other Dijingchi before,
was the drug angle, right?
Yeah, it was pretty uncomfortable.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, where it was like he, this,
so she puts on makeup, she has her makeover,
and then she finds this douchebag guy
who basically gives her a drug,
who, and she, and kind of like a Mandy rip-off kind of thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And basically she experiences the best sex
of her, or just one of the best experiences of her life.
Literally your first time.
She's a virgin then, and she just becomes
kind of a nymphomaniac, right?
Where she just-
And a drug addict.
Yeah, well, a sex addict and a drug addict
at this point, right?
Where she's addicted to the sex
and she's addicted to the drugs
and she's addicted to the sex and drugs.
And then this, it just kind of spirals down from there.
It is, it is like, it is a downward curve
from like chapter one, you know?
But you almost feel like when it's,
when the character is like this disconnected
and like barely gives you any signs of wanting to,
I don't know, like this,
it feels like,
I feel so forced at times,
this decline of mental state where it's like,
all right, all right, you're just doing
the fucking best of depression hits
at this point or something.
You know what I mean?
Like it's literally you're just trying to get,
I feel like they're just making things bad
for the sake of it.
Like there's, like a lot of the time I was like,
I guess.
Yeah.
Like there was a moment in it where I was like,
I don't know, X to doubt on that one.
Which point? Which point?
So it was in the school.
Yeah.
Where during the story,
um, they know that she was,
She went to a hotel, okay, so, okay, I suppose I should back up.
So she has this boyfriend, you know, who's kind of a scumbag, gives her drugs, and
then she kind of wants money. So she starts fucking an old guy who gives her money.
A little disturbing and the sexiness.
Ugly boss attack. Literally really, it's not an uncomfortable, it's quite uncomfortable,
all I'm saying, it's very uncomfortable. I don't mean to say not uncomfortable.
It's very uncomfortable. And then for some reason, one of the students finds out that she went
to this place. So naturally, all of the boys together decide, where that's the, you know,
let's all get blow jobs from her.
That's what me and the boys do at school.
It's like, of course.
First of all, never gonna happen.
But also, that was the part where I was like,
I feel like this is kind of like,
this is a little extra, like,
that was where I was like, I get it,
it's very depressing, but I was like,
this feels really forced to this part.
I'm like, you're making this sad for the sake of it.
If you don't agree with that whole school part,
or I'm like, this is a bit of a stretch.
I mean, it's just like a trope that I've seen
in so many versions.
And they all sought fucking hair,
and I'm like, name one school,
kid that mind showing his dick to anyone,
let alone fucking someone in front of his friend.
You'd be surprised in Japan.
I don't know, man.
I don't know, man.
I mean, this is a culture that is grown up
on just seeing each other's dicks in the onsen, right?
That's like, it is.
It's just probably another day in the office, right?
I know, no, no, no.
Like, it's such a stretch that I'm like,
ah, I feel like they're just doing this.
I mean, you say the stress, but again,
it's like such a trope that you see Dojid,
it's like, it happens all the time,
It's not even like surprising.
Yeah.
But I guess when it's used in a way, it's like, feel sorry for this girl, feel like sadness.
I'm like, I mean, I don't.
I mean, that wasn't even the part where I felt sadness at all.
Like it was, it was after that.
Like, yeah, what I would say is this is like the Requiem for a Dream of Hentai.
And I didn't think I would say that in like a sentence, but it's a thing.
It is, it is a thing.
This is, after after she sleeps with this old guy for money, after she gets blackmailed by the other kids in a school, to have sex with them and do all this other
It's really horrifying.
It's not portrayed very well.
It's portrayed very horrifyingly.
Her dad wants a piece of the action.
And this is where I'm like, for fuck sake.
It's just like, literally the saying,
my day can't get any worse.
This is literally here.
This is literally.
So I'm like, God, what I even say about this thing?
This is so fucked up that I'm like, oh my God.
Like, what, why?
And then she fucks the dad.
The dad fucks her, right?
And it goes on.
And the mom, Blaine,
her and I'm like, really?
Really?
Like, you were married to this man for how long
and you think it's your daughter's fault?
Come on, come the fuck on.
No way.
I bet 99% of wives would be like, men, you're out.
I don't care what happened, I don't care who tempted who,
you're fucking out, you are the problem.
You should fucking know better.
I'm like, that's where I was like, mm, all right, okay, okay,
maybe, maybe I'm like, ah,
I'll see where this goes.
Yeah.
about this move, Chief.
I don't know, could you see a world where the mom would be like,
I blame you, daughter, for fucking dad.
I mean, fuck, I don't know, man.
I don't know anyone who's been in that situation.
How fucking am I supposed to know?
You never know there might be.
Who the fuck knows?
What do you think that?
I mean, this is just fucking weird.
This one was fucking weird, uncomfortable.
I'm like, I get why it's got a reputation,
but I was just like, fuck.
No, it is absolutely fucked up,
and it's not supposed,
it's one of those dosions where it's not supposed to be enjoyed
enjoyed in the conventional way of enjoying a dogeon.
You know some shit.
I'm a fuck.
I'm a fuck, I know, of course, yeah.
It's gonna fucking say, I think this dogen's a masterpiece.
Thank you. Thank you.
I was just like, I have, no, not because,
not because I thought it was.
I raised this boy.
This is like, I Google every depressing thing
that could happen in life.
I put it in a dogen.
I have, how is that a masterpiece?
I have never been so engrossed in a dogen before.
Like, I, where, like, I was,
turning every page.
And I was like,
because I was thinking,
where is this,
where is this dosion gonna go next?
I'm 100% serious.
When I'm just like,
I literally saw it from like the moment she met this guy,
I'm like, I bet just fucked up after fucked up shit is gonna,
the moment she gave him drugs,
he gave her drugs, I'm like, I know this is going.
This is just gonna.
It has the greatest show-known battle of all time, dude.
Who is gonna win?
One innocent, one innocent girl or one spiky boy?
No, because like, I try,
to come, I feel like you came in with like
a lot of preconceived notions where you're just like,
this is fucked up, I'm ready for this.
Where-
If this was a movie or a TV show or anything,
this would be like, just like bait tier of like,
this is just baiting.
Like this is just so lazy in terms of how little they try
to sell this as like a realistic journey,
that I'm like, you know, we've had movies about stuff like this
that are fucked up, that have done this so much better
that I'm like,
Literally requiem for a dream.
Yeah, just because this is in Dojin format
and it's literally the only one that's like,
how about we'd be depressing, you know?
It's like, I don't wanna give it props for that.
Cause like, I give it props for that.
I think it's a bit more than that.
Yeah, but I think it's a little more.
Maybe I'm being a little too harsh,
but I feel like this has been done before in other places.
Because because I feel like metamorphosis
has like, well now it has to battle with it being like
the meme dogen, right?
Because it's like people don't judge it on its own merit anymore.
People judge it being like, ha ha ha,
I've seen this been memed everywhere
as like the big thing that people
like recommend to people to like fuck them up
and stuff like that. And it's like one thing
that's like I don't like
is that people in
like the hensai community or what I've seen
people are just like I've seen more fucked up shit than this
I've seen worse things than this
and I'm just like of course you have
I too watch euphoria
I too have seen some of the shit that Siddy is recommended
and fucking reviewed like I've seen the fucked up shit
I've certainly a daily collection of
you know I you know
Like I did go in, you know,
a part of me obviously went into thinking,
it's gonna be some of a fucked up thing
I've ever seen my life
because everyone's recommending it,
but you know, it wasn't that.
Then the other hand, I'm like,
you know, it's almost trying too hard
to make me feel sadness
for this character that I don't really feel
like they built her up that well.
Like honestly, personally.
I thought they built her up really well.
It was so short and sweet
and it's like, I guess,
it felt very one-dimensional to me.
I felt like there wasn't enough depth
to the character.
And then the moment shit started going wrong.
Look at us.
That was, depth of the character in a dose of episode.
Listen, listen, listen, if you want me to give a shit
about this story, you sit here saying it's a masterpiece.
I'm gonna hit, I'm gonna sit back and be like,
listen, I'll fine, I'll talk about the characters
for one goddamn minute.
Okay.
The moment shit started going wrong for her,
all character development went out the fucking window.
There was like nothing was added or introduced.
It was like, all right, it's like the,
it's like the Apple event.
It's like we've seen the iPhone.
We've seen being taken the,
advantage of. Let me introduce being taken advantage of by your father. And everyone's like,
that's what I felt like. I felt like I was being condescended to in terms of the shit that
was coming up. Okay, because I would feel like the thing that I also want to mention is that
God damn, Shinduil knows how to draw a good sex scene. My fucking God, that's the thing
that's missing. He's the man. Because like, okay, here's the thing. I think fucking chapter one
awoke something in me. You're like, you, you remember talking.
I'm just like that new thing,
where it's just like, oh, what is the new thing?
The new fetish.
The new fetish is just like this girl who,
like, I've never read a dojin where like,
this sex scene is like this intense.
I'm just like, like the drugs and shit.
Yeah, when, when, where they introduce the drugs
and it just like enhance her experience to a point
where it was just like, nothing that you can ever experience
on this earth.
I don't know why I didn't enjoy that scene that much.
I'm not really sure why.
No, that scene single handily awoke that for me,
I'm just like, I want, why didn't it for me,
me reading that scene was just like fucking heavy breathing cats.
I'm just like, oh, oh God.
Fogging off your PC monitor.
Jesus Christ, for a second, I like understood
May Lynn for like a second.
And that's fucking saying something, right?
Like I didn't know I could feel this way.
And then like chapter three here, and I'm just like,
I think like my fucking penis shriveled up
and it just inverted back into my body.
Right, that's just like, it was just like such a whiplash
of emotions that
And I'm just like, he went from like, oh, that's hot
to just like, what the fuck am I reading?
Have you seen that fucking like,
there's a thing in the UK where they would go
and let's a TV show, they'd go and visit tribes.
And this is one of my favorite clips,
it's one of my favorite clips as well.
The guy's like, there's a ceremony
where they invert their penises.
And they invert this dude's penis.
And he immediately faints.
I just imagine, I imagine,
that's what happened.
That's what happened to God.
He just, it's a penis in bed.
He just fucking,
at his PC monitor, and he's like,
What happened, God?
I was reading metamorphosis.
Understandable.
Understandable.
There's some power rating.
I mean.
Honestly, because I feel like the difference
to me and you was just like, at a point,
I was into it.
And then I was just like, okay, I am not into it anymore,
but I was like, I was invested in it.
Maybe that's why it was so strong for you,
because it was like you were into it at one point.
And then it's like, it slaps you on the back
of the head, it's like, stop.
It's a whiplash of emotion.
Stop it, that was a really good laugh, by the way.
Like, my God, like, even during like some
the later chapters.
I'm just like, no, no, no, don't say it.
No, because like his art is fucking amazing, right?
It's, I don't know how he draws his sex scenes
to be this intense where I'm just like,
I'm feeling emotions that I've never felt before in my life.
I was reading this praying,
I wanna go back to the succubes one.
I really wanted to just open it.
Okay, I gotta ask, what do you all think about
the final chapter?
Fucked up.
Five percent, I think, I think,
I think because I think,
I almost think now,
hearing your guys as talk, like,
put thoughts on it, is that this manga works amazingly,
or Dersian works amazingly if you get invested really heavily
in the first part and the first sex scene.
Yeah.
Because then it like, like I said, it hits you
in the back of the head, it's like, no, don't be horny.
Yeah. It's bad, horny bad.
I mean, it like gave me such a mess of emotions, right?
Because I'm just like, I know I shouldn't be horny right now.
This is fucking depressing a shit, this is fucked up.
I didn't like the guy at all.
I think that's why.
Like, I couldn't, this guy was fucking,
I didn't like the guy at all.
How can you get behind it?
You're not supposed to like the guy.
Yeah, but that's, to me, it's like, you know,
I, the whole hotness of the sex is the duo dynamic.
Like, okay.
Someone who is that depressed shouldn't be making
those kinds of facial expressions.
The, you can fucking frame some of the facial expressions.
What do you mean by that, like on?
Honestly, let's unpack that a little bit.
Okay, okay.
Let's jump right in the way.
Let's talk about the art of that.
There's got in another drink.
Let's talk about the art of the aha gal.
I'm not fond of it, you know, I've been oversaturized to it.
Yeah, you've been over-saturized.
We all have, we all have, right?
But, like, his, like, ahagal faces
are some of the most unique fucking ahagal faces
I've ever seen in all of hentai.
It's Asanagi and Shinderella.
I'm a man of the church, though.
That's not enough to make me quiver, you know?
I don't see that.
My wills are not compromised by such ill-thought ideas.
I'm sorry, Connor, that this art piece was so good
that it made me question.
me question. It made me question it for a second. And then I was just like, no, I'm back to it.
This is awful. This is the prey.
Fucking name of the clip of this fucking thing. God thought fucking metamorphosis was the
fucking Mona Lisa of Dogen or some shit. I personally think it's the Mona Lisa of Dogen.
No. Like, like, okay, the reason why, like, I was so engrossed in it is because it was such
like... You love incest and there's incest in it at some point, God. So clearly that's why you like it.
It was such a fucking mess of emotions. And it was like
emotional up and down.
Like it was just down from the start.
I knew the moment she was like,
I can't make good friends.
I'm like, oh no, that's gonna be.
That's gonna lead a bad decisions.
I felt that depressed reading something
was Oyasmi Poon-Pu-Pu.
It also, okay.
I've never, I've not read Oyasmi Poon-Pun-Urush.
I also want to put it into perspective.
Yeah.
I also wanna put it into perspective
that I just read like three and a half hours of porn
before this.
So reading this last was not a good way
that in my day.
I was already quite done with reading porn.
And then you have to bear in mind,
there was probably no way I was gonna find any,
if it was the whole, that's what you get
for doing your homework the day before it's true.
I was given the thing, the day before,
I was given this two days ago.
So, you know, I think that also didn't help
because there was no way I was ever gonna find
any of these things attractive,
because I was pretty much, you know,
I was pretty done.
Yeah, yeah, with reading porn.
You've read, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've read so much.
You did your year's quarter of reading.
I literally read like, what I think is,
like, a normal person's, like,
month worth of porn in one day.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, so.
I was pretty exhausted.
The fact that this came up,
and I just saw the right through it right away.
I knew exactly what they were gonna do
right from the start.
And I was just like, you know, it's fine.
You know, I see what you're trying to do.
You're trying to be sad.
Yeah.
And I don't appreciate it.
Frankly, it's not, it's not done well.
I, you know, the whole, like,
the moment that her dad looked at her,
I'm like, I see what you're doing here, buddy.
And I'm not.
Your next line is.
I'm not a fan.
We keep talking about the dad,
but I think the dad is the worst
part of the Dojan.
It's definitely.
For me, reading the Dad episode was just like,
let's just throw, let's just throw in something fucked up.
I would rather eat my own toenails
and read them again.
But like what, like what, like it was after the Dad Dojan,
that the Dad chapter part when I'm just like,
you know, this is this is really engrossing as a story.
Right? I knew it was going there.
The moment he gave her a drug, I'm like,
he's literally gonna sell her later on
and use drugs for it.
It was so obviously it was going there.
And so when it went there,
I was like, I was not even surprised.
The dad thing caught me off God,
I had a feeling it might happen,
and then when it did happen, I'm like, for fuck sake.
Yeah. God damn it.
Cause like, to me, it was just like,
it was just the feeling of just being like,
this is the most depraved shit.
I shouldn't feel horny at all this situation.
Is that- Are you jacking off to this?
I don't think so.
I don't know, probably someone is.
Probably.
Because the thing is, the thing is,
it was that emotion,
juxtaposed between how amazing the sex scenes were.
Cause like, out of context.
Exeter down.
No, out of context.
Out of context.
No, I don't think the sex was that good.
The art was fucking amazing.
Half it was for fucking ugly bastards.
So how much was to get behind that shit?
I mean, it wasn't all ugly bastards.
It was, it was, it was,
we had two very big scenes with older men.
Yeah.
And it was very gross.
I mean, there were six chapters
and two, maybe three of them were ugly,
Which frankly, one is too many.
For me personally.
I mean, so the fact that I'd read this shit
and I thought it's bad enough she's fucking some random dude for money
who is literally the ugliest man on earth.
And the next it's like, it's like fucking smash pros
introducing a new fighter, her fucking dad,
in this fucked up story already,
which is already depressing as fuck because everyone in the fucking school
has had a go at her.
Yeah.
It's just like that that shit alone, I was like, you know what?
Like, I, yeah, sure, Japanese kids are fucked up,
but like this is too much.
this is too much.
This would never happen.
No way in any school would this ever happen.
Well, it's interesting because like,
I interviewed Shindwell like a couple of years ago
and we talked about this.
I was like, because I wanted to know,
I was like, what inspired metamorphosis?
And he said that he, because he was born and raised
in New York. Yeah.
So he was like, I heard and saw so many stories
that were similar to this.
Right.
And he was like, I wanted to bring light to it
because otherwise, no one fucking talks about it.
I bet this shit has happened, like separately.
Yeah.
Like all of these individual things.
No, no, absolutely.
Yeah, yeah.
But like, like,
but like like,
you string these all together to a point
where I'm just like, I suspend my disbelief
and I'm like, yeah, I don't know.
No, it's not supposed to be realistic,
but it's supposed to be, I know, I know,
but like, it's basically, I think,
in my opinion, it was Shindowal being like,
look, this shit happens.
But like, I think about movies that fucked me up
and I think that could be me,
I could make that mistake.
I could be in that situation.
And this one, I was like,
This is, well yeah, because you're not a chick.
Even then, like, I feel like it was,
it was trying too hard to be fucked.
I think the most fantastical element was it, of it,
was how much she enjoyed the sex, right?
Because, because that was, that was,
I feel that was the big difference between.
That was also an uncomfortable part,
because I'm like, is this, is this good?
Is it what she wants?
I don't.
No, that's the one, that's, that's, that's me,
what's the most interesting element.
That, to me is what, like, drew me in
was like, was like the fact that she enjoyed the sex,
So much, which I know it's like,
But with her dad, V-source music?
Why?
No, no, no, that's the point, right?
Where it's just like, it's such a like a mess of emotions that is just like, you don't,
you have no grounding.
It questions your morality the entire time.
There's like no grounding on this kind of situation.
Because personally, I don't know anyone who's fucked their dads.
I'm glad, right?
And I want to, I personally know four people who are-
And I kind of, I kind of want to keep it that way, you know?
Like, that's just me.
I don't know if that's a hard.
take, but like, I just, I just, I hope that, I hope that that never happens to any fucking
body. Yeah, yeah, but, but I mean, yeah, that's the point. It's, it's fucked. It's, it's, it's
fiction, right? Yeah. But, like, the, the thing that drew me in was that it was just these
fucked up situation juxtaposed between sex scenes that she obviously really enjoyed at the time,
right? And I'm just like, yeah, this is like really, this is like a weird car crash of different
fucking things that I shouldn't be feeling right now, but I'm just like, I don't know how to, like,
I'm still like processing it now,
because it's like the only time,
the reason I call this a masterpiece
is that it's the only time I felt this emotion
that I'm trying to describe right now, right?
Normally, normally you get depressed.
Normally you get horny.
You don't talk about depression, depression,
do you?
Like, like that just doesn't happen, right?
But metamorphosis is just these two fucking things
that shouldn't coexist together.
Coexisting together.
I'm just like, what, what?
Yeah, it's, it's.
And that's why I think it's brilliant as well,
because he took such a fucking risk with this,
where he was like, this could have easily just
being like a weird thing that no one would have picked up
and then just like brushed under all of the,
oh, okay, that's fucking weird, let's not talk about that
pile of dogeons that are out there.
But there was just, again, he just presented it in a way
where it was just like, you came for the horny,
but you're gonna stay for the depression,
whether you like it or not.
Yeah.
And like, I don't know any other dojin
that's managed to do that and managed to make me stay
the entire time until the end.
You've been saying the Shadler Booth movie,
Infomaniac?
No, I haven't.
That's like the three hour long one, right?
It's like there's two parts to it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I felt like that was a really uncomfortable depiction
of a woman who's addicted to sex.
Right.
I felt like that was really somewhat well done.
I thought that's an interesting movie.
It's a very hard watch.
Yeah, really?
It's very long.
Yeah, yeah.
It's very uncomfortable.
What is?
It's that, it's that fucking like,
really avant-garde director.
Yeah, it is.
And it's one of those things where it's like,
it really reminds you, like,
you think you're cool with sex until you see it
in really uncomfortable ways and you're like,
ah, yeah.
Oh, it's the Lars von True movie.
I kind of do have weird thoughts about,
because it really makes you be like,
oh, you're comfortable sex, bet.
Yeah, like, and I feel like, you know,
having experienced that kind of weird shit,
I feel like going into this, I'm like,
yeah, I can kind of buy why she's into it,
but also I feel like it's been darn better
in different places almost.
I'm not saying that movie did it better essentially,
but I feel like I've seen it done in a way
where I'm like, I think this is done slightly more realistic
to the point where I'm like, I believe it, I believe it.
Yeah, right, but it's hard to, like,
I get it how like, you know, movies like Niphanania
probably did this whole thing better.
Yeah.
But at the same time, Nifamaniac has the upside
of being more realistic by using real actors.
That's true, it's, I mean, we shouldn't,
like, the biggest thing is.
I guess it's hard for me personally,
to, who's never read Dojans to see this
and be like, damn, that's.
That's fucking, that's art, man.
That's, yeah.
I mean, like, this is so, it's a tall hurdle.
We get, right, right, right, right.
I mean, we literally just chucked you in a deep end
and just, like, fit, like, try to see if you could cord you're out, you know,
it's like, I'm not used to the genre.
Yeah.
You know, there's, I mean, I don't think anyone is,
all these, all these kind of tropes in here.
And then there's this goal, I'm just to believe as this kind of well done character.
And I'm like, yeah, I don't believe it, man,
personally, at least.
I mean, at least you gave it to go.
At least you can now say you read men,
I've read it.
proud of that fact, I wanna undo the reading that I've done.
So what would you give it out of 10?
In terms of what?
In terms of just like how you felt about it?
Four?
Four? It's an interesting read.
And what will you get it?
10. Hell yeah.
Fuck off.
Hell yeah!
What a Sydney thing of it?
I don't know what Sydney thinks of it.
You should ask.
And frankly, I'm afraid to ask.
Because I should be like, it's the hardest shit.
That she were the dead fucks.
I've not in it.
I have heard too many things that.
that have worried me in my past,
the past few months of my relationship
that I'm kind of afraid to ask her opinion
of like any hentai right now.
So, I guess we'll leave it at that then, huh?
Jesus Christ.
It was, I appreciate you guys introducing me
to the wonderful world of,
okay.
So what's the same thing,
so has this experience change your perspective at all?
I mean, I still have my preferred methods.
Right, right, right.
But I got my,
systems in place.
But would you ever in your late,
off time, go back to like try another Dojin?
Like a different one.
Yeah, if I was recommended a Dojan
that was highly praised, I would go and read it.
I mean, it's not too difficult.
Yeah.
Hopefully it's not too long.
Yeah.
I would say the biggest appeal about reading Dojans
or highly rated Deginghi is like you,
you've talked about finding that one hentai
that's fucking like the diamond in this like pool of shit, right?
There's so much choice with Dojinchi
because there's,
there's like obviously so much, right?
Infinite amount of tags.
There's way more choice than there is for hentai.
And you can find way more dogens
that are like specifically garnered to your choice.
I just really enjoy voice acting so much.
And especially in that manner,
I really enjoy what it adds to it.
I feel like it helps sell my believability.
To me, the best tag you can possibly get is plot.
Plot is the best spice.
Isn't it tragic that it has to be?
a tag though.
Yeah.
It's not a given that everything has.
I don't want plot in my.
Yeah, some people are like, no, no, no,
I don't want the plumber turning up today.
I don't want the pizza man delivering a pizza.
You know, the fact that we're talking about
the plumber and the pizza man just shows
how fucking devoid of plot every fucking porno is
that we've gotten this kind of mentality
where it's like, you know, plot's kind of hot.
You know, knowing the context of why people are fucking,
that's kind of hot, you know, is that such a hot take?
Me not being a fucking monkey
and just scratching my nose.
Notts to people fucking, you know, great, fantastic, you know, wow.
My God.
Well, I'm just glad, Connor, that we managed to finally do this episode.
Because we've been talking about doing this episode for quite a while now.
We were like, two out of three, love Dojin.
Monkey Man over here, doesn't want to read.
I feel at this point we should just make it like a, uh, uh,
buy, yearly, by year, is it twice a year?
Yeah, we'll do it.
Doge in the hentai episode, right?
Yeah, this is like about six months after the hentai episode.
We're doing another hentai episode of six months.
Yeah, I know, right?
God.
Jesus God, I just talks so fucking much, don't we?
I can't believe.
Honestly, this has been such a fucking episode.
It's such a fucking episode.
A fucking episode.
It has been a fucking episode.
This has been a fucking episode.
You know, the succubis one, I'm praying, gets it.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
So out of the seven, what's your favorite?
Can I rank them in order?
Sure.
All right.
Metamorphosis is the worst one.
I get least favorite to most favorite.
So menomorphs is by far the worst one.
The very close, last, second, last place.
The fucking Orimo one.
Fuck that one, fuck that one.
So that's, what, gone in the bottom so far?
Yeah.
I will say that probably after that is,
ooh, ah, it's gotta be the first one.
Thought it was like you.
Yeah, yeah, that one I wasn't too fond of.
Yeah. And then third, I guess, is,
This is difficult.
Seikatsu,
Seikatsu, shukhan.
Okay, okay.
Shoda.
The Shoda one, yeah, show the one.
Fourth, I'll give it to the Sensei one.
Okay, okay.
Fifth, I'll give it to Pissu Hame.
And first place, it's a succubis.
Wow.
So two of yours are my favorite.
That's pretty balanced then.
That's pretty balanced, actually, yeah, that's not bad.
Well, you recommend the Sucububis one, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd say...
And the piece of Harvey is my one.
Yeah, I'd say you both gave
me, you know, I was shocked, I was expecting worse from you.
I was expecting, I was expecting Lolly Ork gangbangs
from Jerry and from you gone, I was expecting
the whole family fucking each other.
I mean, we could have recommended that to you
by like, we got pretty fucking close
with the Aurameau one, right?
Yeah.
And the whole family came up for fun with that one,
fuck me.
And you haven't finished pieces of harm here,
so I'm just gonna leave that.
The thing is we can only recommend three,
so like when you're choosing three,
do Ging she, that's like a fucking hard choice.
It's like choosing between your children.
I was just like, I wanted to recommend
like one of the top tier milf ones,
but I'm just like, there's not the,
there's not enough space.
You can recommend me like one good one
and two ones that you know I'll fucking hate.
Honestly, you know what you can do?
Give us a list of tags and we'll find you something.
Milf, milf, milf, step mum.
Step mum, step mum, step mum, step mum,
mother nose breast.
I don't know, I'm like the,
I don't like incest, but,
I'd like to tell you boys,
and I'm gonna go here,
I'm gonna go home today, a changed man,
reading Dojans, but I'm not.
I'm definitely not.
Next one is the Erygay episode,
so we gotta recommend it some Erygays.
No, because they're like 10 hours long.
They're like 100 hours.
What I wanna do for the next episode
is like the adult manua.
That's a- Oh, that's a good one.
That's a genre I've been getting into.
And honestly, I think adult manwa,
story-wise is even better than some Dajun.
Yeah, we can recommend Connor some Adolmawa.
I feel like Connor would very much be into Adolmahua.
I think so.
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