Trash Taste Podcast - THE GIGACHAD IS BACK (ft. @PremierTwo ) | Trash Taste #237
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Welcome back to another episode of Trash Taste.
I'm joined by the boys once again,
and this time by a very special guest
who's joining us, Pete, Premier Tzu.
Oh, thank you.
First of all, didn't, don't I get some sort of a special intro?
Because I mean, it's a two-time award winner.
Okay, hold on, hold on, hold it.
No, I got it, I got it. I got it.
I mean, I won.
All right, okay.
All right, fine, fine, fine, all right.
Special guests out of them.
Welcome, welcome to this episode of Trash Taste.
I'm joined by the boys and joined to,
The two-time award-winning Giga-Chad.
You know him, you love him, you've paid for the full seat,
but don't worry, you're going to be very comfortable the entire time
because it's going to be a two-hour banger by Pete,
Perry and two!
I feel so much better with that intro.
But, you know, truthfully, thank you.
That was very good.
That was some W.
Way in a $300,000.
Maybe $3.30.
But I was thinking about, you know, how I was a two-time.
I'm giga Chad award winner.
But the reality is, I haven't seen you guys
in about a year on the show, right?
Yeah.
What you guys have done in the last year
is like insane character development.
You've been broadcasting anime to a whole new generation
of weabs on Twitch.
That's character development, bro.
I'm not,
that's character regression.
No, that was great.
All I'm doing is watching anime fee.
That's no achievement to be talking about.
He's been doing that for the past 16 years, dude.
But I got to see it on Twitch, which felt like,
something that was always so against the rules.
You can't broadcast any copyright material.
So you brought Overlord to me.
And I was like, that's saying.
You watched it.
I did.
I was like this is a thing.
And then you've been creating a clothing and burping in my face.
Which is,
no,
but you created a clothing empire
that you had a pop up in Shibuya.
Empire is a strong word.
Which is insane, though.
But you like,
you know,
you got to go into one of the most biggest buildings in Tokyo.
You've raised a million dollars
Well, we, we raise, re-raised, we raised.
Among other things, all I've done in the last year, genuinely, is I got a haircut and I gained 12 kilos.
That's like it.
So I feel like it was awesome to win the award twice, but I think that you guys actually are the true gig of chats.
And congratulations.
No, no, I don't want your, I don't want your, see audience.
This is a classic form of manipulation.
No, it's not.
He's already securing the third award.
No, I, give it to someone out.
The question is, did you know what a gigacad was
before you won the first award?
Absolutely. Not. I had no idea.
So, I mean, I'd seen the meme,
but like of the guy doing the poses.
Yeah, but I thought that was just from trash taste
and you guys.
Like, I thought that was just something you guys.
No, we didn't answer that.
We're not original.
We steal.
From an after dark episode or something.
Right, right.
And then when we did the first cyclathon,
I added it as an alert, but the TTS couldn't say it right.
They said, Jigakad.
I thought it was gigacid for like,
oh, is that the way you actually say it for a minute?
And then, you know, it's a fun, it's a fun term, I guess.
Gig and Chad.
It just rolls off the time.
It is fun.
How long have you been doing, so you transitioned to doing Twitch?
Four year, four time.
Four years.
It's been four years now.
Yeah.
Congratulations.
You just had it recently, right?
Yeah, the four year anniversary of my wife thinking
daily, I think we should cheers to that, Pete.
I think we should cheers to that.
It does sound.
Oh, speaking of another amazing thing,
you guys have your own beer.
Oh yeah. Yes.
Well, cheers for four years.
Yeah, cheers for four years.
Wow, it didn't explode.
Weirdly not.
Yeah, I mean, it's just knocked around.
All right, so.
They don't pressurize can.
Now that you've been doing Twitch for four years,
how is your meme knowledge?
How is your knowledge of like modern slang
and modern lingo?
I mean, I mean, it's tough, but.
Oh, oh, shit.
No.
He did it.
No, no, he learned this from like literal like four-year-olds.
Oh, yeah, that's true.
Well, Ludwig classifies, I guess.
Yeah, we were on the RV trip.
We had this, we were in like a llama, an alpaca zoo.
Oh, yeah, and there's a bunch of school kids,
and then they just obviously came out to us
and they were asking questions,
and Ludwig mugged one of them,
and then the kid did it back flawlessly and better.
Yeah, way better.
He destroyed him, and now Pete won't stop doing it.
Shh, shh, okay.
So, it's so weird to see him.
I know, I'm 41 and I'm mugging Connor.
I would say that-
You mug me all the time.
I'm here.
But, you know, it's an interesting thing
because the culture is so much faster
with these meme games.
And what is popular,
even six weeks or a year ago,
is completely unpopular now.
And I...
It's more like six hours.
It really is.
It's crazy.
And so I think I'm lucky
In a sense, on my channel, I think there's not a lot of that. I mean, there is, like, we joke about it.
But you go to a normal Twitch channel and it has a lot of emotes or reactions of alms or
cot or cinema or all these, like, people just spam the same thing. Yeah. Yeah. I think my viewers are
maybe sleeping, but, uh, no, so it's, I think we still have like conversations and stuff. So the
opportunity to learn slang is still, I think your chat still is like full of actual like human interaction.
Yeah, I think so.
But it has been fun.
Every time I get to hang out with the younger kids,
as you guys are, I get to learn all new things.
The younger kids.
The younger kids.
I mean, we're gonna be useless in that regard soon.
Yeah.
We're gonna be up there.
We already are.
I mean, two-thirds of us already are.
Yeah, we already are.
You're our only hope.
Well, you're gonna be our young one left.
I've got two years, bro.
I got two years.
That's what you think.
And it comes up on your fast.
Yeah.
You know, do you not realize the other day?
I was like, I've been doing YouTube
for literally half my lifetime.
I started YouTube, my first,
was 17 years ago.
So it's 17 years ago.
So it has reached a point where I'm 34 now.
That's crazy.
So half your life.
Half my lifetime has been spent doing YouTube videos.
Not only that, your entire adulthood.
Yes.
Yeah.
Like every, well, I think all of us out so far
for me, it's like our entire shape has been on YouTube.
These are your heroes.
Yeah.
We have never, we're alive.
We have never.
ever claim to be heroes, right?
And also, also, you know, not all heroes.
Yeah, that's right.
I flipped a couple of burgers.
You did, you did.
That was not a real job though, that was just abuse to simulate.
I didn't even get into that,
I worked for the BBC.
I was gonna say though, so the BBC arc,
which is still kind of jokingly and lovingly referred to,
was that also 17 years ago?
Uh, no. So I did YouTube and I quit to do the BBC.
And then this motherfucker rose up.
And I'm like, this motherfucker thinks he can take my crown.
Ain't no way.
I'm coming back, baby, no.
And then he came back like Vlad Bailor.
What he proved, what Joey proved was that you could do YouTube
as a job.
It just wasn't a thing 17 years ago.
So that's what he proved to me.
Huh.
So that's gone used to be that guy when I was like,
you know, I was in school, he was like,
you get one gone video every two years.
And everyone would be like, oh my God.
It was like Michael Reeves of today.
Yeah, yeah.
And now we're going back, maybe.
And now he's,
now he's,
now he's,
now we, that's the same
for C dog videos, right?
Yeah, actually, yeah.
I think out of us three,
he uploads the most frequently.
You're the most consistent.
On main channel, yeah.
On main channels, yeah.
Well, I mean, it is crazy
when you put it that way,
you're 34 and I mean,
I hadn't started streaming at your age yet still.
That was another three or four years away
for me to even begin
that second or third or fifth life
that I've led in the job world.
But congratulations on 17 years.
That's actually, that's insane.
One more year and your channel can drink.
Yeah, next year, the anime zone is literally legal adult.
Yeah.
Non-Gpan, actually.
9-Japan.
18 years old.
That's a depressing to think about.
Yeah, that's scary.
That is scary to think about.
But you have to admit, would you agree possibly,
I'm setting you up now to agree with me,
but have your 30s so far been better
or more enjoyable than your 20s?
That's a wanted question.
He threw you the ball.
You can say no.
I want to say yes, but I also want to say
I've been more comfortable,
but I do miss the energy I had as in my 20s.
I feel like I got lucky in my 20s.
So normally what your 20s are for
is like discovering yourself
and then you do all the exciting shit when you're 30.
And I feel like I've done so much exciting shit
in like my late 20s, now that I've reached my 30s,
I'm like, I kind of like feel like I've regressed a little bit
to be like, I'm fine, just chilling now.
But with chilling, that also invites a certain sort of like piece
that this is like the best year of your life
because you just enjoy your time.
Yeah, because you can chill.
Yeah.
But I know, I think the best years is subjective.
I would say I've enjoyed my 30s as much as I've enjoyed my 20s.
In addition, in a different way.
Just in a different way.
I am dealing with different problems
and I'm enjoying different things,
but I'd say from my experience,
I've enjoyed both.
I think I was very blessed in my 20s
and I've been very blessed my 30s as well.
I mean, yeah, but and that's the other thing as well
is that like, you know, you're comparing,
what, four years to 10 years?
So it's like.
Yes. Also you're living in,
so I feel like it's harder to look,
you know, when you look back on a period,
it's a lot easier to kind of be like,
block out all the, like the shitty things.
You're like, oh, that was fun.
Yeah, now if we were to compare my 30s
to my first 34, my first four years of my 30s,
my first four years of my 20s,
oh, abs are fucking looping.
So we're tracking that this could be a better decade.
Yeah, so far.
Trending upwards, so far, it's a good start.
24, 24 was about the age I quit the BBC.
So now, now it was like when my 20s started getting good.
Was there a period in your life or you were like,
damn, this is kind of crazy?
Like this is the best.
Tuesday? I think like, no, I mean, like, I think from the best, I genuinely feel like each year
has been better than the last. Oh, hell yeah. Like, I genuinely feel that way. Even when I was like,
when I was 24, I was still in college, still in the math lab, and they're like, he's never going to graduate.
He's so stupid. I mean, it must be like, if you could talk to like 16 year old Pete and be like,
one day, you're going to get to play video games. He must be like, shut up, I'm playing games.
You were doing this and getting paid.
I think young Pete would be like, yeah, I know.
He just had a he had a cultic knowledge who's going to work out.
Well, I think that actually has persisted throughout my entire life.
But I remember when I was maybe six or seven,
I used to wake up in the morning and play Nintendo before school.
And my mom would be getting ready for, you know,
You could wake up early.
I couldn't do that.
Well, I mean, I don't think I slept.
I just, I know I was away.
But she would have, like, her role.
She's singed and smoking a cigarette and she'd go, oh gosh, you know, you've played those games all the time
It's never going to lead to anything and I was like that's not true mom someday I'm gonna be paid to play games
And now I am
And so she had the last laugh
Yeah, she often calls me and says like remember when I used to tease you about that? My mom's is the same thing
Yeah, so my mom still teases me about it. Yeah
Well my mom still calls it twotch and she doesn't know that it's Twitch and I've like I'm like my
I'm playing twash I don't think she knows
knows. Does your mom watch your streams? She tries and her, I'm not going to tell you her the number. Well, I will. It doesn't matter. But her name is, she's 74. And every time I call her, she'll be like, 74 ready for more. And I'm like, okay, mom, that's great. You're very youthful, very excited. Her name on Twitch is like, Gypsy Girl 27 or something. And so people, when the channel was really small, people would like, I think show a special interest in it because it was a girl in the chat. They'd be like, you know, what's up, gypsy girl? I'm like, please stop.
I was like, that's my mom.
Why couldn't she be called like, like, Gypsy Woman?
Because I think it's a famous song that she liked from a,
and I was like, could you just change it to anything without the word girl in it?
Because you're getting hit on.
And you're in your 70s, but she's like, I like the attention.
Oh, my God.
She's great, though.
She's the best.
When we called her on my birthday in the van, I asked her.
Like a live on stream.
Live on stream.
I said, how many edibles have you had?
And she went, four?
And I was like, all right.
I want to hang out with your mom.
She's the best.
So she was born in 1950, so I'd say that she's had,
she got to experience the whole gamut.
Yeah, but take that mom.
The onslaught.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
Each year has been better.
And this year already, already great.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
So, so, wait, how old are you again?
41.
41.
41, all right, see, I look at you and I'm like,
just around the corner for you,
I have something to look forward to.
Well, so we had a, we had a conversation about like,
the era that we grew up in, right?
And, uh, I think now, 90s culture was coming back in,
we've talked about this on trash taste,
but I also think none of us have a proper experience
of the 90s because we kind of, that was like,
when we were like, you know, our prefrontal cortex.
We were like fetuses back then.
But you actually got to grow up in the 90s, right?
Yeah.
What was it like?
What do you miss the most?
Tell us the stories, Grandad.
Let me.
Please.
Did the Magan's really look that cool when you went in them?
What would you say defines 90s culture for you?
I think that we were in an era of unbridled optimism as children.
God, I'm, oh my God, I wish.
God, I miss that.
Holy shit.
It's true.
And I think that it was the perfect blend of there was a rise in middle class income
where we could afford things that maybe my parents' generation.
couldn't waste money on.
And we had toys, we had arcades.
We had fast food was still novel
and that you didn't eat it every day.
It was like, we're going to Pizza Hut, which was like...
It was like a reward thing.
Yeah, we literally read books to get a free personal pan pizza
that you'd take your homework and they would be like,
good job, son.
It was a great, great time.
And the thing that I will always be appreciative of as a gamer
is I have a unique perspective.
and I think I've even mentioned this on this channel.
I've grown up from Atari and been present and active
for every single innovation on video.
You mean that's high history of videos.
As it was new.
And as I could still appreciate it.
And it was like,
because when we just like an idea of the 90s
of something that was,
things that are long gone now,
telephones,
you know,
taking messages,
long distance calls.
You couldn't call your cousin across town.
Yeah.
Taking messages for like your family.
The UK is pretty far.
They might still have.
When I was a kid, I had a black and white TV.
Oh yeah, that's what great.
And still using a rotary phone.
And then they had dial-up for the first,
I remember having dial-up for like one year.
Yeah, dial-up was a big game.
Well, the internet was huge, but the whole notion
of having four channels and Fox being the newest channel.
It was like the edgy one with like the Simpsons and stuff.
There was only four channels that you could even possibly watch.
But what I always miss was they had these newspapers,
we would get because we saw daily delivered newspapers.
And around this time of year, doing Black Friday or Thanksgiving or Christmas is ramping up,
they would have these full color ads for like Best Buy or Fries or whatever your electronic
story is.
And it would have a little image of every single game that was coming out with that.
And my mom would let me circle three games for Christmas.
And then she would say, you know, I don't know if I can get you all three, but choose your best three.
that shit, I would take that to school.
I would get like community notes on it.
Like, where are you guys saying?
I would, I would, I would, it would be the most agonizing decision of my life.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it was, it was just really fun.
And imagine this as well, like, I could talk about this for seven hours.
But the other things, well, it's so fascinating to me because we wait for games so long now.
And when I was young, the difference between Final Fantasy 6, which is three in America,
Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy 7 is like three years, total, which is insane.
You went from Chrono Trigger, which is like peak S&S graphics to Final Fantasy
seven within a year and a half.
Yeah, that's psychotic.
That's insane.
Yeah.
And Super Mario 64 was at that same time.
And the problem that I miss having, and this is like, I don't know if you guys
ever had this, you know, on Christmas when you would get like three or four games,
and you're like, man, which one do I play first?
Yeah.
And you're to like, you're in your head, you're like, you're having like mental anguish.
I haven't put enough time into this one.
I don't want my mom to think I don't like this game.
Yeah, I gotta play it.
Yeah, man.
It's such a good problem that we'll never have now.
Well, now we look at our Steam libraries
and it says 12,000 games.
We're just like overloaded with different experiences.
Like right now I'm like, I wanna play the Elder Ring DLC,
but I also gotta play metaphor as well
and all the other JRPGs that have come out this year.
You could play 19 games in the time it would take
to play metaphor.
Yeah, I know.
And I would still choose metaphor.
But like it's an amazing,
experience, you know. Last year, we got a lot of flack because we said that. Yeah, I was like,
I was going to ask you, just building up to a, yeah, this is a good year for games.
Man, I fucked that up so bad last year. You didn't fuck it out. I got, I got the heat. We all got
heat. Honestly, fuck you. Bring it back. I'm ready. I took my lumps. No, you know, it's tough.
I think that when you look at gaming, it's kind of like the movie industry in a sense where now it's
so many sequels. And there's, I think my main argument that I wanted to try to say last time was,
I miss when there was new IPs and there was grand new adventures like a metaphor or
or something like an Eldring.
I think this year has actually been the first year in a while where it's like a lot of them
are new IPs.
I mean, obviously there's a lot of returning IPs.
But if you look at the game of year nominations, it's a lot of new IPs there.
Yeah, it's great.
I was so excited.
And the Olden Ring D.L.C. as well, which.
Yeah, it's going to be controversial.
Oh, man.
I called this like three months ago.
There's receipts somewhere on my Vod's.
I guarantee it.
I genuinely felt Ballotro was the game of the year.
And I got a lot of pushback because it was an indie title and stuff like that.
And I was so excited when it got nominated because I feel like the indie scene right now is the best we have in games.
Oh, yeah.
It's so good.
Those are guys and girls who grew up playing games that we like that no one makes anymore because the development times are too long and stuff like that.
So I think this is a great time to be a gamer, even if the year itself was kind of disappointing or last year was disappointing on like a headliner.
It's never been better to be a video game player.
Yeah, sure.
Yeah, even when I get sent like fucking millions of game codes,
I always do that series or I'll play a bunch.
Yeah.
You know, I'll play it, like,
and a little of them are fucking awful.
But you'll be like, man, this game has no reviews
on Steam and it's really fun.
And you're like, this is sad
because it probably won't ever take off,
but it's like a phenomenal game.
And you're like, what do you have to do now
for it to take off?
You know, this-
Just shout it out as much as you can, right?
Yeah, but I mean, it's not,
it's just simple.
Or you could do that like real
hipster thing where you just like keep it for yourself and be like,
nah, this is like the one I like that.
No one else talks about.
No, I did that with my stream for nine months.
It was horrible.
You know streamers would enjoy.
Yeah, if enough YouTubers make more videos about it,
it reaches critical mass and then it's like,
it's a big game now.
Yeah.
I think there was a game that I, oh, so recently I was
sponsored, which is a rarity on the channel,
but I was really excited about it.
I got to play Dragon Quest 3.
I got paid to do it.
Yeah, that I was so jealous of it.
Like the idea behind that is so crazy because Dragon Warrior, this is probably, everyone's like,
this guy is so old.
No, no, no.
That game came out in like, like, 1988 or something like that.
I played it with my dad.
You know, he was like, we would play on Nintendo's my very first RPG.
And he'd be like, son, I got to go to the store and just don't drink my diet of Pepsi.
And I'd be like, why?
And then it was, it was whiskey, but that's okay.
But he would be like, so he was like, just go ahead and farm slimes and make sure you get me
enough gold so we can buy a copper goddamn sword.
So he was gone for like four hours
I don't know
It was supposed to be right back
But I ended up getting all this gold
By farming slimes
And I bought like 12 wooden sticks
And he came back and was like
God damn it
What did you waste the fucking going on?
And I was like five or something like that
But to then be all these years later
And have a chance to be
That's so cool
It's crazy like this is my very first game
So I love gaming
But the 90s were special
They were truly truly unique
Did you go out a lot as a kid
Are you kidding me?
Like you know
I have this, hell no, hell no.
I have this image of just, at least, you know, listening to, you know, you're not that age yet.
Like, Sydney's dad's, like, stories about how, you know, in America, you'd go out and, you know, ride your bicycle.
And, you know, it's such a weird concept where parents would just trust kids to go out with no form of contact.
That's what I did.
That's what I did.
That's what I did.
That's what I did.
Yeah.
Well, I live in Wales.
There's just fields.
I would get home from school and then, you know,
I would be like, all right, I'm gonna see the kids in the park.
And then I would be gone until like nine.
I would walk to like my friend's house.
So did you have like, do you guys have like a curfew?
Where you've been,
Oh, dinner, dinner, by dinner.
Or we will call the police.
Well, no, they would just kind of be like,
well, if he's not back by midnight,
maybe we'll figure something out.
I think they were usually calling the truant officer
because I would refuse to go to school,
not because I was home late.
So the, for me, yeah, is,
as soon as I got home, it would be grab my GT Dino, my cool bike that I found.
It was like free.
And then I would pop curbs where you do like stupid tricks and go meet your friends,
go play baseball or whatever.
And then we'd play pogs and slammers and like stupid, ridiculous, boring shit.
And then go home and we'd also go to like caveman comics and buy a new issue of,
you know, Teenage Mutage Ninja Turtles or X-Men or whatever.
And all these, all these things were new still and exciting.
And so.
Yeah.
When you were in school, was there a big like trading card?
phase if there was was there well yeah it started with baseball cards which for a lot of that was still
relevant man it was everything was everything in the world black and white then as well it was
it was right right right it looks like 12 angry man it was uh it was so crazy when we got purple
and like green's and this dLCs fire but no it was we had baseball cards that we would
collect initially and then there was these really lame things
called Cabbage Patch or Wacky Packs.
And Wacky Packs were my favorite.
They were grotesque drawings of pop culture parodies.
So instead of having like a Batman card,
it would be this disgusting drawing of a super name Fat Man
and you would collect these and trade them.
And then if you collected enough of them,
you could have like one giant disgusting image that was,
I mean, these, back then we just didn't,
there was no internet.
There was Mad Magazine was still like.
I mean, the internet was not very used.
when you were a kid
because you just didn't know how to use it
and search for things that you actually knew.
The internet only really became like a useful tool
in the 2000s, I'd say.
But it was speaking like the 90s though, right?
Yeah, for like general people.
Yeah, forum culture was kind of cool.
It was kind of fun at the time,
but it is a terrible way.
I miss forum culture.
Do you remember whenever you're anything happening,
your PC and it'd be in a forum
and then it was just never helpful,
but you'd always click on the forum
just in case it helped you fix your PC issue.
And it never fucking did,
and the moderator was like,
let me know if there's any more problems.
And there was always like more problems.
Well, or it was, or it was like the forum would start off
with the exact problem you had, but there would no reply.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's the worst.
And, but you would go on these, these trails of like finding any clue
that was remotely successful.
And finally, on the deepest depths of a forum,
some guy'd be like, yeah, I kind of solved it.
Here's what, I just had to restart and hold down X.
And you're like, oh, thank.
And then we never upvoted it.
We never said like, thanks that helped me.
Just move on.
Yeah, of course.
Yeah, it was a crazy time.
No, they don't.
That it was cool, I think, but like I said,
even though as great as the 90s were,
I think that I'm still enjoying life more now
than I ever did back then, but it was-
Well, kids are probably hearing,
oh, we were unbridely optimistic and they're like,
what's-
How do you be a generation that was optimistic?
Well, that was until we were like in middle school
and I think most kids are optimistic until then anyway.
I don't know.
Really?
Talking to like, talking to some kids,
everyone like this, because of the internet,
because of like the whole, I guess, like,
a lot of Duma culture has preserved,
penetrated.
Penetrated.
Gotcha.
Towards like the modern generation.
And I don't know, it seems like because of how cynical
the internet is right now,
it seems like we were around at the time
when the internet was this like bright new,
exciting thing.
And now I talk to, you know,
some kids of the young generation.
And they are still optimistic.
But it's cool to be negative.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Self-deprecating humor was a rarity when I,
it's my calling card, for God's sakes.
Yeah.
I made a career off this in every single facet that I could.
But when it was original back then,
it played off very well,
but then shows like the office or awkward humor or like,
now every kind of comedy is centered around negativity or self, you know.
That's been the British bread and butter for you.
Yeah, actually, what am I talking about?
You guys had that since.
What the fuck this?
It's like, that's all our thing.
Don't try to take our culture.
Yeah, that is definitely a cultural.
Take our tea.
They've been doing this as the dark age.
It's like, my lord, you're cringe.
British is still in the dark age.
It's just so you know, we never left the dark age.
But it's, it's, I do yearn for a more simple time where,
and I think for me that's why I like streaming so much to bring it full circle is that.
It's still, my approach to it is a game night with friends where,
presumably we're sharing games and having a laugh.
And I've traded the three or four people who were always at my house to an audience who is there digitally.
But yeah, it was a crazy time.
So much innovation in such a short period of time.
Is there any games you've enjoyed a lot this year?
Other than like, well, Ballotro, of course, was like, I think just simply amazing.
Dragon Quest 3, my God, it was incredible.
But I've realized that as much as I love gaming and I'm a historical.
And I'm a historian of video games.
I love it.
Genuinely,
I don't play games anymore the way I used to because of streaming.
It doesn't...
It doesn't...
It doesn't allow me the room to let the games breathe all the time
to, you know, viewer retention and caring about an experience.
Because we'll always talk.
When we play the same games, I'll be like, yeah, I'll be it in 12.
He's like, really?
I'd be it in 24.
Yeah.
Well, it's for me...
You, you like, you know, I feel like you make a show or I'm like, yeah, yeah, fuck off, Mario.
Let's go.
Fuck it.
Yeah.
It's like speed run.
Yeah.
I don't even tend to.
In my head, I'm just like, I literally can't just sit there and wait.
Like, I don't know.
I just subway surface on the side.
I don't know.
Like, I'm like a lot of-
Game to start gaming.
Well, I understand what he's saying.
I mean, your purpose in your play-through.
I think it started when you had brain rot and played call duty for 72 hours a day.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
But like, for me, my fondest memories of gaming are in the basement with my buddies
and one of us is on the PC playing, whatever.
And then I'm on.
TV, playing Resident Evil and GameCube.
And I'm not really trying to go at any particular pace,
but we're having discussions and talking about girls we liked or jobs we hate.
And the gaming is kind of a byproduct of that.
And then as we get towards the end of that, I'm like,
oh, man, I should lock in and like 100% this.
Yeah.
And that is not really a conducive way to stream, I think.
No, that is.
Wait, so wait.
All your friends come to your house to game?
Always.
Oh, you were that kid.
Oh, yeah.
Dude, because my parents are too strict.
And my best friend, his parents, she did.
I mean, my mom, I think, had already been like,
yeah, they were like, it's free reign.
So whenever I'd go to his, it was like,
they wouldn't care if we set up all night,
like 24 hours playing video games.
My mom would murder me if she knew I was doing that.
My mom, I think, you know, yeah, no way.
She was, so we had for my entire senior year,
Halo Combat Evolved had just released six months prior,
or about that time.
And we had every Friday for the entire year,
Halo nights at my place.
It started at 7 or 8 p.m.
Men just want one thing that's disgusting.
24 guys.
And you say your life is better now?
Actually that might have been.
That sounds like me.
Well actually, too bad.
When I went to America,
Lottweig and the Yard Boys,
they do like, they call it penis Star League.
They have a full land setup of Halo 3
and Cod 2.
Oh my God.
They just do land nights.
I was a good land party, man.
It's a, you're right though.
The land party
vibe. We'd bring three guys who'd have to bring TVs, like, you know, the big 27-inch.
Yeah, we would have four Xboxes, three-linked cables. And then the only rule when you came
over to my place, what, we didn't drink it this time. God, that would have been madness. But we did
drink a lot of colas. So you had to bring either two 12-packs or one-24 pack. And if there's
18-20 guy, what's a 12-pack? A 12 cans. Like 10? 12 cans of cola? You'd to bring two 12 packs.
Two 12 packs. One-24 pack. And we, like any Midwesterner, we had,
a spare fridge in our garage.
How many did you...
It's like full strength Coke, right?
This is like Mountain York game fuel.
This is like full strength Coke.
This was R.C. Cola.
This was Jolt Cola, which had three times the cafe.
Wait, wait, wait, wait. So, and how many
colas would you drink a night? So we would often
at the end of the night, which would go
into my mom woke up for work for, because she worked
on Saturdays, bless her heart, Jesus. I should send her all
my money. So she would wake up and say,
boys, it's time to go home. We would have
well over two or 300 cans of cola.
Oh my God.
How are you alive?
Well, if there's, okay, calculate it, right?
Because the fridge, if you, everyone had to bring two 12 packs or one 24 pack.
And there's eight.
This is how he loved math.
Well, I don't know the answer.
It's like, I don't know what the math is, but I know I can drink a 24 pack.
Easily.
And so much fun, man, because one map of blood gulch or, or it would take four or five hours
because there was no timers on.
Yeah, first time I had a monster when I was 12 and it felt like I had injected like pure heroin
to my friends.
You had a monster at 12?
Yeah, because it was like,
it was like a, you know,
around that time was when
it was the whole like monster
and redible marketing
like really ramped up
and it's kind of like cool to drink a monster
because the cans neon green.
Yeah, yeah, you know,
and then it tasted kinda good
because it was super sugary.
I was a bitch.
I saw like the older kids in my school
like drinking monsters
and I was like, that looks yummy
but I'm too scared to try it.
It was like a pound a can
and it tasted good.
It's like if my mom finds out I drank that
should kill me.
Yeah, I'm almost not happy when she found.
Yeah.
I think I only discovered energy drinks
when I was in university.
Yeah, same.
I actually don't think I had any in school.
I thought it's more of a cool thing.
And I got kind of too much into it
and then I had to like down.
You sound like you did heroin.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, the energy drinks are like horribly addictive.
You speak to it.
It's liquid heroin, basically.
Luckily I was, you know, I was mainly like
in college where I started drinking them a bit too much.
You know, I'd have like one a day.
Yeah, well, I mean, we were all there.
Yeah, you know, and I have some friends
that would chuck like full red balls a day
and you're like, are you, you know,
and it's like really hard for them to quit.
Yeah, I stopped doing it.
It is like having like like a heroin.
You said, we'd ever made it and he stopped and he was,
he was having horrific migraines and shaking.
Yeah, yeah, I got, go ahead.
No, I was gonna say I stopped,
I stopped drinking energy drinks after my friend
almost died of a heart of time.
Did that also that also happen too?
Yeah, and I was like, all right, never touching that again.
Well, I gave him up for quite a while,
but at a school, Nomi Kai, when I was a teacher,
we had a Christmas, Bonin Kye, whatever,
like, into your party.
Yeah.
And some people won like a Nintendo Switch,
Some people won like Yakiniku
Meets that gets delivered.
I won 36 cans of monster.
And I was like,
yeah, fire these up again.
And I had,
Yuki had to go out to like visit her family
for like a week on a trip.
So I was at home alone
and I played this game called graveyard keeper.
It's a great game.
But I don't think I slept for six days
and I was just kind of like,
every time I'd just be like,
let's just have one more row.
Oh my God.
Getting off of that only ended
because I ran out of the 36.
cans.
Yeah.
Mom, what a,
fucking movie.
It could have been made
in those 36 cans.
The movie.
Man.
The ups and downs.
But those Halo Knights
were peak.
And even,
I remember there was once
where I got food poisoning
because my mom made
like tortellini
from that was expired
for like three years.
And we only had the one
bathroom that we could use upstairs.
And I was like,
I'd already invited everyone over.
There was like 20 guys there.
They were already playing.
I was like,
I got to go to the bathroom.
I feel really sick.
I was like peaking.
And,
Instead of my friends like helping me,
they were like, hurry the fuck up in there,
I gotta pee!
And then they ended up playing the games all night.
And not one person picked me up
and was like, you good man, do you need some medicine?
They were like, hey, we gotta go,
do we lock the door on the way out?
I was like, this ridiculous.
Friends for life.
Those are your bros you meet on Halo though, so.
Yeah.
Sounds like the most Halo experience of all time.
You know, I got in Halo,
but made me with a code though.
Yeah?
Yeah.
I played, mainly a Gears of War, I think.
Yeah, that was multiple, it was fucked.
That one had massive host advantage.
Yeah, that was really bad, yeah.
It was hard.
They literally gave, I don't know why,
what was the reason behind this?
They would give the host extra health.
No, no, no, what?
Yes, look, Gears of War,
to get a lot, Gears of War host advantage.
The host just had extra flat health.
Really? I always thought it was the ping advantage.
It's shots.
Damage.
Yeah.
Basically the host is, God,
His shots are stronger, can seemingly take more damage,
can down you quicker with Lancer and has Uber range on his guns.
Well, I- I- I- I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-W-I-W-T
I always thought it was because of the ping advantage.
No, no, no.
When I was the host, you know,
you always have like a little bit of a reaction
that is always gonna be fast than literally anyone else.
Yeah, I mean, there was obviously that,
but I'm pretty sure the stats were actually like buffed.
Right.
Because that's what I always thought, but like,
yeah, yeah, gears of war.
was obviously really fun as well.
Did your house have a massive basement?
It did.
Does every Midwestern house have a massive basement?
Because of like tornadoes and stuff, right?
I mean, that's probably the reason.
That's the actual reason.
It's not like, you know, I think, and you know,
back in the day, the house we lived at,
so I've always lived in the basement.
Sounds so.
But every house we've ever had.
Literally a mom's basement.
Was my mom's basement.
And we had a fire, like, in one of our houses once where it was the first time I committed fraud, where they, uh, they told me you can write down the price of what you bought everything for that was damaged.
I was like, well, this is like a cheat code because all my stuff was kind of old.
But when I bought it, they were like, yeah.
And I was like, Sony PlayStation 299, you know, 27 inch TV.
And so we got this great check.
I guess it's not fraud if that's what they told me to do.
And statutes of limitations.
But we move to.
Yeah, that's next point.
a host advantage.
So we moved to another basement with all new tech.
And I think that not only does every house have it,
I went back there when I,
like three years ago when I visited back home,
the house was like $180,000 to $220,000 for sale.
It must have been like $35,000 when my mom moved in there
or something just super affordable.
It does suck talking to your parents.
They're like, yeah,
I bought it when it was a tenth of the price.
I bought it for eight grapes and a handshake.
It was like, I was like, wow,
and this is not even that great of a house.
And it's not in a great part of town,
but I was thinking that's insane.
It's so expensive.
Because every time I go to Wisconsin,
like every time, every time I visit like a friend
or someone I know that,
everyone just has like the most massive fucking basement
of all time that is like completely decked out.
It is like my dream, all right?
It is the,
Man Cave. I don't know what? Is it a man, is, do we have like the manly urge to just build the perfect basement?
Of course. Of course. Of course. You know what blows my mind about American basements? This is like,
those memes, the European mind can't comprehend. No, no. They're like the full fridge and freezer,
like, separate. Yeah. A full fridge. Yeah. And then you have the basement. And then like the,
the perfect size freezer for a body. But like, how many freeze goods do you have? Like, that's crazy.
And some. In America? Yes. I mean, there's a false.
But it's like, you, it's so much.
It's great.
So many basements I'd know,
just like they have their own bar as well.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Well, you could have had like a big living room,
but your dad was like, nah, mate, gonna have a bar.
Yeah, my dad was like, nah, living rooms upstairs.
This is my space.
Like, Jerry's living room is like, like a foot.
It's tiny, yeah.
It's like a seat in a, and a coffee table.
And then you go downstairs and it's like an actual bar area
could easily be a living room.
This is this giant bar.
And then my dad's like a,
has this giant record set up with the TV
so that my mom can play wee bowling during Christmas.
That's great though.
That's our best.
All right, guys, easily better.
What's your dream basement?
You own a house.
Dream man.
What are you putting in your dream basement?
All right.
Bar? Of course, bar.
Standard.
Pool table?
I want a poker table at mine.
I want a poker table there.
Yeah, like just like an area that like,
obviously I want like the couch and the TV
so like there's like a game set up.
Yeah. I want like, you know what I think,
I want like every like game console just like laid out there.
You know, like the fucking cabinet where you're like,
which what console do you wanna play today?
Just go through your generation of games.
Then you gotta set up some elaborate switcher.
Otherwise you gotta get in there.
Yeah. I didn't play in the control.
I'll pay someone to do that.
Oh, okay, okay.
All right.
I'm actually anti bar at the house.
Anti bar at the house.
Yeah, I don't ever, I like to drink obviously, right?
Like I love the Ezekiah culture,
but I do not enjoy drinking at,
at homes.
Really?
The vibe's all off for me.
And I miss the kind of background chatter and the clinking of dishes and silverware.
And I feel like it's a very conducive way to be lively.
But at a house,
I never feel comfortable.
And I think it's because I didn't drink until I was like 27, 28 years old for the first time.
So yeah,
it might have been a delay on that.
So I missed house parties and stuff.
Are you saying that we might have been drinking for longer than you?
Yeah.
That worries me.
I've been catching up though with consumption amounts.
In Wisconsin, going downstairs and having your dad drink
is just, I think everyone's core memory there, actually.
Yeah.
Wow, see, that's so fascinating.
They pour, like, bourbon or something cool.
And they say, it's just like, you go downstairs.
The parents watching the game, basically.
Yeah, your parents just spawned down there.
I got a beer in their hands.
Australia is like the UK, though.
I think most parents drink.
Yeah, well, we also have a balcony as well
that you can like go drink out.
Yeah, yeah, well like a backyard.
I don't think his dad was drinking Goon of Fortune.
No, my dad had money, so.
But some Australian kids.
Only broke college kids would do that.
We did.
Yeah, yeah, I guess I missed out.
So, but yeah, the bar, the poker table,
the pool table, TV.
Would you ever have a projector in there?
Or just like a really big.
Projectors are so shit, bro.
You don't like projectors?
I'm a firm projector hater.
I just think they often look like shit.
They never, they never look as good as a screen.
Yeah, I think like,
Like back then, it made sense to have a projector,
you know, before like the big, big, big TVs you could buy now.
But now you can get TVs the same size as a project.
And they're like four quid for some reason.
Yeah, and they're like, you can buy a 70 inch TV for like 50 bucks.
It's crazy.
I'm exaggerating, but like they're so cheap.
They are not exaggerating.
I worked at Circuit City, which is a electronic store in America
when I was in college and HD TVs had just come out.
Like just come out.
Oh, wow, they're expensive.
Wow.
First of all, I had never seen something so beautiful in my time.
Like, and they always had like the same ads running of like, uh, the French open.
So you see like the clay all like fucking fish.
Yeah.
Well, back then it was just like four minutes of the same reused footage.
And I would just sit there and I would upsell it to everybody.
And this was when plasma TV still had like severe burn in.
Yeah.
So they would be, they would tell you, you know, this can only last for like eight months to two years if you're lucky or whatever.
Those, some of those TVs were over eight or nine thousand dollars.
And they weren't even that.
This monitor is bigger than some of those TVs back then.
Right, right.
And we would still have to sell the Sony Trinitron mega-Bobagus
that were at least 850 pounds.
Like you cannot lift them.
Yeah.
And I think that now when you go to McDonald's,
like, do you want a free LCD screen with that?
And you're like, sure, right?
Yeah, the happy meal is just a 16-year-old.
You know, because the TVs now, they're like loaded with ads
and they collect your data and stuff like that.
and that's kind of like the trade-off.
But you know what?
I'm like, sure.
The TV's fucking cheap as fuck.
Like a 55 inch, like 4K TV, like a nice one,
it's like 500, 800 bucks.
It's crazy, yeah.
Do you think TVs are being over-engineered now?
No, no, no, they're shit.
They're shit.
I bought a new TV.
Like the worst parts of a PC in a display.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, why?
They're so slow.
I don't know if this is default on every TV,
but I've like, on every modern TV that I've had so far.
The default setting is to have this dog shit auto-smoving
on everything.
And I don't know why that's like the auto setting, right?
Have you seen the subredits?
There's like subredits dedicated to this
to like calibrating your TV perfectly.
And they all get in arguments about how to calibrate
your TV perfectly. It's so intense.
Yeah, and then I was, I like, I had a new,
we had a new TV and I didn't know this was a setting
because this is the first time I've seen this setting.
But this TV had a default setting
to like auto adjust the volume.
So it's like at a constant level, right?
Like a compressor. Like a compressor.
So I was watching, I was watching,
I was watching this anime, I was watching like solo leveling.
This was like a while ago.
And I was like, why are the hype scenes so dog shit?
They've really fucked up on their like audio mixing in this.
Because when it like, when like the music would go loud,
suddenly you like, something hype would happen
and then like the music would be like, ooh.
And I, I, I, I, like, I was,
I'm like, I'm not hyper at all.
And then I realized it was the fucking TV,
like, artificially compressing the fucking volume.
And I was just like, this is, this is dog shit.
Why is this a feature in the TV?
Have you seen some streaming services now
offer dialogue boost to films and TV shows?
No.
Because if you not noticed that like,
this is a big complaint in past couple of years,
is that when you watch a movie at home,
especially a movie that was in theaters,
it's mixed for the theater where the music is quite loud
and the dialogue is a lot quieter.
So when you go, when you're watching on your TV,
Like this fucking, it's, the volume mixing is,
like it's so fucking loud
and you can't hear anyone's saying,
so you boost it and then the moment
there's an explosion, you're like, fuck,
and so they, they, they've always been that way though.
That's been that way since the dawn of television.
Oh yeah, maybe it's just TV speakers.
It's always been the movie industry.
They, you're like, I can't hear a damn thing
and then they're like,
to roll on, you're gonna.
And then bullets and gunshots.
Oh my God. Yeah, when you have to like,
you have to constantly, like,
if it's an action movie, you're like down,
the shooting, turn it down.
All right, the shooting's over.
they're talking and put the volume back up.
You're like, oh my God.
So maybe they have it, they have it almost right,
but they did it the wrong way.
So yeah.
But I guess if you're compressing it,
the audio in general, the dialogue is still gonna be
even quieter if you're gonna.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
It's, I don't know.
It's, it didn't address the problem at all.
Well, yeah, but so you guys, when you,
how old, you guys bought HDTVs your whole life then,
pretty much.
No, no, no, no, okay, so you did have to.
We had a Trinatron.
growing up.
Okay.
I kind of like had the very fast track 360 to 720
with the Scott.
And give you the thing where you do plug,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because you're the Xbox and you could plug in the cables directly,
but then they had that thing that like chunky ass,
horrible thing that wouldn't go in smoothly into the TV.
Yeah, they're like the really stabby thing.
Have been, uh, S-C-A-R-T, uh, cable.
This thing was diabolical.
I remember this.
Yeah.
These, these things.
I hate, this thing would never,
And it would never go in your TV smoothly.
My dad has like five cardboard.
And then this was like, I think.
PC cables, yeah.
Yeah, I think it was it, I think.
And then 480.
Yeah, and then the first HD was 720.
Yeah. Because I remember a bunch of DVDs
that you used to buy back then were only 720 people.
They'd be like HD.
Yeah.
We used to buy DVDs.
And then it very quickly became 1080P.
Quite fast, I think.
It felt like it was for me at least.
I don't know if it actually was.
Maybe you can tell me because you were probably there.
It's a good shrews.
when we got 1080.
No, I think it was, yeah, I mean,
it felt like a natural progression
because the jump was so, so seismic
that 180 to 720, whatever, it was fine.
But yeah, it's, uh, those are, those are days gone by.
I mean, it feels seismic.
I don't know if this is a hot take,
but I'm like, 1080 versus 4K,
I'm like, I notice it, but definitely not that much.
I mean, 1080 to 720 was a very big leap.
Like when you watch a 720 thing, you're like,
it's kind of blurry.
Yeah, but 1080s okay.
Yeah, 1080.
4K is much better.
No, no, 4K definitely looks better,
but definitely like the jump is just like, okay,
if I watch something in 1080 versus 4K,
I'm not gonna, my eyes aren't gonna be like,
holy shit, this is like, back to the stone ages,
you know what I mean?
But will you watch something in 360P
and you're like, okay, now there is like a big,
I'm blind apparently.
I am actually watching Minecraft right now.
Yeah, classic YouTube.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
I wonder how we, I mean, it's weird
to go back and think about it,
but at the time a 27-inch TV was enormous.
You know, that was a massive television.
Yeah.
And I was, I found this old photo of me playing games with my friend,
and I, I posted it on Twitter.
And we're still sitting cross-legged with like the cords,
you know, the corded controllers.
And I, I, those were simpler times.
But hey, man, now I can, like you said,
we can download a Steam game in six seconds and never play it again.
Pay full price, but be like, oh, someday I'll get to that.
It's going to be safe.
It's a different area for a time.
Yeah.
Like you mentioned earlier, I think gaming is at an amazing point where these indie developers
are making some of the coolest and most interesting experiences that we never would have gotten.
You know, you would never get some of these games made now.
No, certainly not.
You'd never get a, bring it up, fear and hunger.
Some of the games of the years for you then.
Yeah, that's what you.
You kind of asked me that earlier.
And I think it's shameful to say because I haven't, I can't really enjoy games to
same anymore. And I'm not complaining about my job. It's just a different feeling. What games
have you played this year? I think I've, I calculated. I did 70 games this year. So, like, on stream.
And I think. Do you play games offstream still? Not really. Just shamefully Diablo 2, which I still have been
playing since the year 2000. But, uh, he still hasn't gone on a single drop. I'm working on it.
I'm working on a thing called a Holy Grail, which is finding every item in the game. Oh my God.
20 years later, I'm not even close.
But I think I got 76% done.
But the thing about this year in gaming,
I think my perception of gaming is shifted as a streamer.
Now my favorite experiences have been things like when I replayed Phoenix Wright
or these games that have a lot of kind of community.
Like I'm having fun playing it with the viewers.
Yeah.
As opposed to like, that is the best game I've played this year.
Like, Eldering DLC was unquestionably a fantastic experience.
Ballotrow is such a good.
great.
Gameplay loop.
But Dragon Quest 3 probably is, I nearly committed channel playing that through.
But it was so much fun.
How long was that?
Well, I did three streams of 11 hours each.
And so.
That's not too bad.
Well, I'm getting up there.
It's, uh, I think it took me about 45 hours of gameplay time.
It wasn't as bad as Baldos Gait.
That was probably the worst experience.
And it was fun, but we didn't even finish.
Yeah.
Views are very bad.
at watching long games,
mainly because no one viewer can watch the whole thing.
Yeah, yeah.
So you're gonna miss out, and then you already are losing
like a portion of people that see the RPG layout
and I'm like, ew, I'm good.
So you're already like, it's an uphill battle
and then you gotta just kind of, you know,
if you stream it too often, then people are like,
why is you still playing this game?
I don't wanna, it's like watching Ludwig play League of Legends.
It's like, I don't wanna fucking watch this guy play.
Yeah, yeah.
Miserable.
And it's tough because I think what I found
has worked for me because I still love all those games.
Yeah.
And it's not even a viewer fault.
It's just, it makes total sense.
Like, you don't know where they're at the story.
It's like a viewer experience.
You cannot provide the same like one or two hour experience
some games can provide over 33 hour periods.
Yeah.
You know.
So I do like two days of the game that I'm really excited about it.
And I say, hey, there it is.
If you guys thought that was really awesome,
you can go ahead and finish it on your own.
And I got, I got a great experience out of it.
And, but we're going to have to move on just because, you know,
You find yourself finishing less games?
Oh, yes.
Yes.
And as a completionist, that is an absolutely horrible, horrible feeling.
How far did you get in metaphor?
This is so shameful.
It was like, I basically finished the tutorial and then some.
And you're talking to the guy who, like, loves persona.
Started with number one back on the PlayStation, played through all five.
And I really want to play that game, but it's planet talk.
You know, it's all it is.
You go and you talk endlessly to people.
They told me it's a visual novel disguise as an RPG.
That's all the personas is three.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's all the personas.
Yeah.
I mean, like, yeah, I have the opposite from where I can't,
I can't, I can't beat it,
but that just automatically rules out,
like these amazing games, like metaphor.
Oh, no, do you.
In many kinds of cut scenes in metaphor,
like, I think you'll actually wanna kill.
Because you can't skip these either.
Honestly, in persona five,
I was getting driven to the brink on those.
Yeah, and you only played it for now.
Yeah, like an hour.
And I was like, this is fucked up.
I've touched the control three times.
And one of them I got lost in Shibuya.
And I was like, this is evil.
Yeah.
This is evil because this is like,
Shibia was easier to navigate in real life than a persona.
That's great.
What a great game.
Godin.
That's a game of the year.
Yeah, I don't care when it came out.
Oh my God.
No, but those games are so great though.
And, yeah, it's tough games.
You can't stream those.
No.
I mean, I try to do a thing that's like 70-30, right?
I try to do 70% stuff where I'd really keep in
the viewer experience.
And then 30% of him, I'm like,
you know, I gotta do this for me.
And I want to share.
This is one for me.
Well, it's like, I have so many games.
One for you, one for me.
Six for them, one for me.
And I'm in a very, very obviously
lucky situation where I get to also go
on adventures with him and I got to go see
you at the, uh, the parko building.
And I get to kind of spice things up to remind the viewer like,
hey, you know, we're still doing other fun stuff.
We do stuff.
We guys, guys.
I got a site.
Yeah.
And then we're going back to Monkey Island.
And, you know, so it's, it's that kind of ratio.
But I've loved it.
I've never been happier.
This has been, I've done more stuff in the past year in my life than collectively,
I think, 40 years cumulative.
It's crazy.
Has, since you've been on last year, has, how's life in Japan?
Change much?
Anything different?
No, you notice any changes?
Year 14?
Year 14.
Yeah.
Is there any difference between year 13 or 12 or is it pretty much same old, same old?
I'm very glad I got out of.
of the workforce, for sure.
And I'm very thankful.
So usually in the morning, I try to go and grab like a coffee or something.
Which, by the way, tell me if this guy did me a real dirty thing.
I went to a, because we only have like Starbucks near my house.
So if you don't like Starbucks, that's fine.
It's trash coffee, whatever.
But I went there and I'm a regular, I go there almost every morning.
So just to get some coffee, drink waters, hang out, just detox, whatever.
And this viewer, he noticed me.
And he was like, oh, it's Premiere, Premier 2.
And I was like, what's up, man?
He didn't know my name.
I had to make that part up.
But he was like, I know you, I know you.
And he was like, you come to this coffee shop hop.
And I was like, yeah, yeah.
And I was like, I'm just going to grab a coffee.
He's like, okay, me too.
I want to get a coffee.
And I actually had a coupon that's like the one more coffee that you get like, it's like
$1.50 or something.
And the staff, I don't know what it is.
At this particular Starbucks, every single guy or girl is like a model.
They're the most insanely attractive.
I think it's because it's a university town.
Yeah, yeah.
And they're all just like young baristas and the guys like cleaning the glass and
And the girl's like,
conichua, hey Peter, you're back.
I was like, yeah, I'm a regular.
And I was like, I'm a regular.
And I was like, I still got it.
And I was like, one more coffee, please.
She's like, can I have the receipt?
And I was like, yeah, here you go.
And then she was like, that's a McDonald's receipt.
And I was like, okay, let me take that back.
And then she was like, wow, is this all for you?
And I was like, yeah, I was like, yeah.
And then I was like, nah, I mean, we went together, right, man?
Because I needed a bail out here.
This is a brocode.
Yeah, okay.
I got a couple.
of like double bacon cheese burgers.
Oh, so it's like a coupon if you bought a McDonald's.
No, it was my receipt for McDonald's.
And she was just looking at my order
and she was like, that's all for one person.
And I was like, nah, no, we split that.
And he was, and the guy went, he was like,
I didn't go.
Oh, he broke the brocode.
That could have been an instant bonding moment.
I would have been like, you're a guest on the channel.
You're my VIP mod, this man.
And he sold me out and I was like, I was really,
and then I had to say the thing.
I was like,
hona cucka suita, yeah.
Like I was so hungry.
Is this awful?
She was like teasing because I go in there and I order it.
It keeps getting worse and worse, right?
So like normally I go in there and I always just get ice coffee.
Right.
That's it.
And they were saying like, oh, we have these new, you know, merry, berry Christmas lontes.
And I was like, no, I'm on a diet.
So I'm just getting, I've been on a diet for 12 years.
But I was like, no, I just want the zero calorie coffee.
And then she was like, diet deska.
Oh.
I know.
They was so...
That's brutal.
And I was like...
Why can she strays like that?
I don't know.
And I was like, one more coffee, please.
She's not letting you forget it.
No, she was...
That was pretty cold-blooded.
And the other thing that's tough there is
there's another girl who works there that...
They have like 40 staff because it's a college town, right?
So they're always...
And she always is like, do you not remember me?
And I'm like, I do.
I don't.
She's like, you taught me my senior...
your year the whole time. And I was like, oh, I forgot. Yeah. But you know, that was during COVID.
You had the mask. She's like, you use that excuse every time. I was like, I know. Yeah.
I'll have three quarter pounders and six bags. But so it was I got called out by the guy.
I got totally sold out. But I forgot the original point. It was something about coffee.
Or, oh, I remember now. I got it. So yeah, I go for the point of that is I often go to these coffee shops.
and Japan is so hard.
And this is why it hasn't changed
and what I'm thankful about.
The bus is packed.
People are on a rush to go to work.
The commute is just horrific.
And I'm very, very eternally thankful
that I have an opportunity to do what I do
and like, because that shit is the most
soul-crushing experience in Japan.
Yeah.
It's surviving the work culture.
Definitely.
Yeah.
So for me, I don't think that's changed,
but I will be applying for,
Japanese citizenship this year.
Oh, nice.
Promptly probably be declined when they were like,
what's your end level? And I'm like,
six? They're like, it starts at five.
So I'm like, uh,
do I have to know like kanji? And they'd be like, okay.
So, but I'm looking forward to
naturalizing as a citizen here.
I think it's long enough. Yeah.
Nice. I mean, 14 years.
Yeah. Permanent residency is what I have now.
And if you don't know what that is, it means I don't have to
have a work visa to do what I do.
It's a, I, and it's lifetime. But
I feel like I do want to get involved in like local elections or where the communities are at
and just having a bit more agency.
I had a taxi driver today.
He was, he loved politics.
He kept talking to me about it.
And he kept asking me, you know, I love history.
I love Churchill.
Yeah.
As I mentioned, I was British.
And I was like, oh, yeah.
He's like, yeah, he's a really strong leader.
Strong leader, this, man.
I was like, yeah, I guess so.
He's like, you know, now they don't have strong leaders.
I was like, oh, okay.
He's like, you know, Japan, full of weaklings.
And I was like, oh, are you going to fix?
He's like, nah.
I was like, are they nice guys?
They're like, yeah, the nice guys, but weak, weak.
And then maybe we can get Pete.
Sort of all out.
Yeah, I'm a real, you know, I have a lot of strong policies.
Strong policies.
Work now starts at 11.
Well, that was that one politician in Japan who was like,
your womb should be removed.
Yeah, that would be.
Yeah.
Did you see that?
Yeah, that was, that was.
No.
Like an onion article.
Wombs to be removed.
And then he,
I think his argument was kind of around the idea
of like we're not having enough babies.
So we'll remove wounds.
Uterus removal.
You apologize for the way.
What the fuck did I come back to?
Yeah, this Jammary for addition
that was like,
you should remove the uterus after 30.
Jesus Christ.
Hey, it made headlines.
So his party might have more votes.
Maybe we should remove the penis at 30
if you didn't successfully.
We should start with him.
Woman would not be allowed to go to universities from 18
and a law would not allow single woman over 25
to ever get married.
Oh my God.
What the fuck?
In a speech in a never, yeah, of course it's.
Yeah, of course.
In all places it's nothing else going on.
They're like, let's make some fucking radical policies.
This is not, sadly, this is not a terribly uncommon kind of,
even in joking culture.
Like they, when I first started teaching,
the common joke would be, because you know,
you're working with a bunch of people
were in their mid-20s or so, they'd be like, oh, so-and-so is a Christmas cake.
And you're like, what's that?
And she'd be sitting like right next to me.
They'd be like, well, after they're 25 on the 25th, they're useless.
And I'm like, and I was like, that's absurd.
Yeah, that's like a, it's a Japanese joke.
They would just say that in front of them?
In front of them.
And I was like, you don't have to take that.
And I was like, by the way, I'm a Christmas cake.
He's like, no, no, men are okay.
I was like, man, fuck this place.
So like, that kind of mentality is in direct.
connection with like the absurdity that some of the old-fashioned.
It's sad that that's not the first time I've heard that.
See? It's crazy. Yeah, yeah. I mean it's-
It sounds like a fucking Alex Jones bit.
It's like a Christmas cake. They're useless if you're 25.
It's like, it's like, I don't know. Sometimes Asian culture, especially with Asian culture, you kind of, I kind of realize this, but they're way too comfortable making jokes or like having sayings that are just like putting-
fucked up.
Yeah, yeah, just putting a person down.
Well, like a lesser form of that is you're, as soon as you turn 25, you're considered
A-A-Sah, which is around 30, around Sāth.
Yeah, Aras-a.
So it's kind of rounding up to the maximum potential.
So it's kind of assuming that your best days are already done, which you're, or Ataful
after 35 and so, Arafif and so on.
Yeah, my mom's 74 ready for more.
So you can still have a great.
I mean that's why so many people in Asia are so,
especially women are so conscious about their age
because, you know, it's like-
Why? It's like wine though, you know?
They just get better.
That's what I mean?
I mean, we should elect us.
Miltfman spitting facts.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it's true.
It's, um...
Local milk.
Local milk man gets elected.
Yeah, local milk.
Women can only be dated after 30.
New policy.
New policy.
Put your wounds back in ladies.
Oh man.
But it's, yeah, I don't really notice a lot of the changes in Japan now that I'm a total
degenerate playing video games all the time now.
Yeah.
Yeah, I kind of realized people.
I did a, I was doing a, I did a Q and anything.
People asked me any questions about anything.
And they just asked me questions like, you know, how is it living in Japan?
I'm like, I mean, it's like different.
What I do is not a normal way to live here.
And people ask me, how, you know, how do you move?
How do this stuff?
I don't have like a normal way of doing this.
I'm the worst person to ask.
Well, I think this is actually really interesting.
A lot of people ask me that same question on the channel or just in general.
But like you have many, yeah, many years of experience and like a normal approach to it.
And for me, I left America around 25, 26 years old and.
Obviously useless.
I was already useless.
I couldn't make it.
You laugh.
I was like, I blow up the candles.
I couldn't make it.
I guess I'm just, that's all we're going to write for that one.
But when I moved here, I feel like the only way I describe it is you got to ask yourself,
which stresses are you best equipped to deal with?
America's stress was really hard for me.
It was a bunch of retail jobs.
It was a bunch of serving industry stuff.
And I didn't like having to operate the car all the time and pay the fees and try to,
everywhere you went was like this huge ordeal or parking.
I felt like my theater degree should have been a minor, not a major.
in that regard where progress was never really,
there was no blueprint for my success.
And so when I moved to Japan,
I was able to deal with the stresses of living here much better,
which are packed trains,
which are a little bit longer work schedules,
which are scheduling your spontaneity is a little bit less as America.
They'll be like, let's hang out, this is great.
How about on the 23rd of February?
And you're like, what?
That's like in three months.
But those are the things that I was okay with.
But the number one thing of why I stayed and when I visited, I realized was into this day, genuinely, I wake up every day and I still enjoy my environment where I'm walking, what I'm seeing, what I'm eating, what I'm buying. And I enjoy that so much more than I do, the United States that it's not even close. That's a really interesting way. I've never thought about putting it in like dealing with the stresses of living in each country. I've never thought, looked at it that way. I just kind of thought like, I like these things about.
but never really thought about it,
like I don't like these parts about the UK,
but I guess they're hand in hand, right?
Well, it's like every place you live in
is not perfect.
Yeah, you can have.
Of course not.
Different stresses, different things that bother you.
But, you know, the daily life overall here
is just very good.
Yeah.
And people always like, you must be like playing it up.
It can't be that good.
It's very nice.
It's pretty good.
I mean, we would have left otherwise.
It's kind of just insane that everything kind of just works.
Like when stuff goes wrong, it's horrible,
because you have to deal with like so many
layers of systems, but like daily life stuff, everything works so seamlessly. And you can,
you can always rely on everything. And it's, it's, yeah, I mean, not to like,
fucking jerk off Japan, but I mean, like, well, I mean, it's the biggest city on the planet.
It's great. It's great. You can, I, I survived it sometimes having to steal toilet
paper from parks, but I survived it by a teacher's salary, which is like the lowest
entry point. Four pennies and a shilling. Yeah. So I think that if you
can make that work, it's pretty good.
But my wife would say that Perth was better for her and she's Japanese.
So maybe, there you go.
Yeah, Japanese people love Perth for some reason.
I don't get it.
I don't either.
It's a bit of a shit old.
Sorry, Perth.
But I'll be visiting there soon.
Every time someone from Puff, actually the, the, I've run with some viewers the other day
who recognized me because of my shoes.
And I was like, oh, we're some.
They were like, Puff.
And I was like, oh, I'm sorry.
And they were like, oh, you know Puth shit.
I was like, yeah, yeah, I got, no Australia.
It's like, yeah, is any city in Australia.
It's like there are the people who are like,
yeah, our place of shit.
And then there are people who are just like,
hardcore, like, nah man, we live in the best city in the world.
I've learned that you can call two cities shit
pretty unequivocally.
It's Perth, but mainly Canberra.
Oh yeah, no, everyone in Australia can agree.
Can't agree, Camberra is the worst.
And that's our fucking capital.
Oh, really? Yeah.
That's the world.
When it's under your capital, you could have a Batman.
It's a fucking, it's a fucking sports capital.
Yeah.
You know, because you had Melbourne and Sydney.
Yeah.
And you just get the only reason,
I don't know if you know this,
but the reason why we chose Canber
as our capital is because it sits perfectly between Sydney and Melbourne, and we couldn't
decide on which one, so we picked a random city in the middle. That's so Australian. Yeah. I love that.
It sounds like sports fan, you know, it's just like, all right, you guys can't agree.
Could be worse, you could call both cities Melbourne and split them with a river.
Oh, that's Kansas City, isn't it? Yeah. Exactly.
Hey, look, that would work even five years ago. But I haven't, I mean, fuck Kansas City. No, I'm
kidding. I like Kansas City. It's one of my favorite places to raise a family.
I'm going to go to tell her real quick. You don't because he's already leaving. He just makes
fuck Kansas City. There you go. But yeah, it's, it's, it's, um, Kansas City was where I had,
what, a dozen different jobs. So being a part of a city like that was,
it was, it was great. It was lost season. It was wild. I mean, yeah. But, yeah,
what was the best job you'll be out there?
Let me just go through.
list.
All right. Let's go through your
I think I've already forgotten
so many. Yeah, let's go through your resume.
So I started at a flea market
called Riki's flea market. I was 13
years old and I was not paid in cash
but she did have a selection of gag
gifts from like a Peewee Herman movie.
Like gum that would make your
your mouth turn like black or blue,
stink bombs, things like that, right?
How old were you? 13. That's illegal.
First job. Yeah. So that old child
labor. Then I went to a
I worked at a coffee
shop called TOTOS, you know, like Dorothy and Wizard of Oz.
And I was promptly fired from that when they put me by myself at a location that was like
brand new and somebody got sick. So it was like my fourth day. And everyone was like,
there was like a huge line for some reason. And I was like, uh, and I panicked. And there was one guy
like literally wanking off in the corner because there's a library and they had the computer.
I had to call the police. I got fired. It was done. That was 15 years old.
Okay. Then I took a break from jobs after those two.
I was like, all right.
I'm just eating stink bombs,
and I got police called on some weirdo.
Yeah.
So then after that,
we got into college
and I had a whole series of waiting tables,
which was great work
because you get the money that day,
and then immediately go buy video games or cards that night.
Right.
So we had Applebee's, Chili's, Red Robin.
There was one more in there,
but I can't remember.
It's gone now.
GameStop was a big one.
That was fun.
We've worked at Z95.
seven today shit music
that was a good one I worked at the olive garden
briefly that was you worked at olive garden
that one actually was really unfortunate
so this one actually
has a different story that it's going to intercede
is that okay this is one of the worst
dates of my entire life it was it was very bad
starting a day worked in the kitchen
no no so um I had just got
this I really loved this
girl. She was so sweet. She was so awesome. And I was a senior and she was a junior. And we,
I just graduated. So I was moving into the college thing and she was just becoming a senior.
And I was like, well, I won't see her in the hall anymore. I should ask her out. Like, I can do
this. So I got all my buddies around me because that's what I did back then. I was like, I'm going to
call her. Here we go. And they're like, get the boys to hide you all. I'm like, yeah, let's go.
And I was like, and I was like, I was like, it's busy. So we had to like wait and we're like,
What are you going to say?
I'm going to let it come to me.
And they're like, you should come up.
I was like, I got this.
So I was like, and then I was like, hey, you know.
So I call her and I was like, hey, I was thinking that this would be so cool if you and I, my boys were like,
yeah, we should, we should go out and like, have a date.
And she'd be like, I really like that.
And then everybody was like, so I, they're watching sports.
And I was like, you know, cut it out.
I had, I just got my license at 18.
because we couldn't afford a car at that time until then.
But my mom was kind of to get me this old white Cadillac,
not Cadillac, but like that kind of Oldsmobile.
Yeah.
And my mom had just got a new Ford Focus.
And I said, can I please borrow your car
so that I could show up without like, you know,
this thing that's smoking out the back part part.
Yeah.
And she was like, oh, of course, just be careful.
I love you.
And I was like, okay.
And then at that time, my sister already moved out.
So we had my cousin Justin living with us upstairs.
And he was like in his midterm.
He was like, yo, bro, you going out with the girl tonight?
I was like, yeah.
He was like, what's your plan?
I was like, I'm going to take it to where I used to work at the Olive Garden.
And he was like, um, bold.
And I was like, no, man, you get like breadsticks.
He's like, okay, it's fine, all right.
And he's like, what about after that?
And I was working at the radio station at that time.
And I was a celebrity judge at an improv show.
Yeah, I remember this story.
Yeah, so, sorry, you have to hear it again.
No, no, no, no, I don't mind.
So I got this one.
my God. Well, so the, I was like, I get to be a celebrity judge because the actual guest
couldn't make it. And then he was like, dude, that's sick. He was like, all right, look,
I don't know how things are going to turn out tonight, but just in case. I was like, what is that?
He was like, it's a condom, you idiot. I was like, huh? What do I do with that? And he's like,
I don't have time to explain all that. He was like, just put that in your coat and don't you worry
about the thing. He's like, you got this big man. And I have no intention of using this.
I don't even, I'm not interested in that at all.
I'm just trying to focus on Olive Garden,
don't eat too much, and then improv show.
So I take the car, pick her up,
we go to the Olive Garden,
and they were really nice because they were like,
hey, I used to work you, what's up, man?
And I was like, you know, it's not just the free breadsticks.
They gave me some other perks too, like a dessert.
And I was feeling like, I was like, this is so sick.
You were like the shit.
This is so perfect.
And then we went to the improv show,
and it's hilarious.
is everybody's laughing, everybody's having a good time,
and I'm giving out big scores,
you know what the numbers,
and they said,
and they were like,
and now we're going to bring up the celebrity judge
to do an improv game with us.
And I was like,
oh,
I fucking killed.
It was awesome.
It was so funny.
In my memory,
people are going like,
peat,
but I don't think they,
my name was Kramer,
I guess,
but they were like,
people were going nuts.
Everybody was like,
viving and everyone was coming up to me.
Man,
that was so funny what you did.
And I was like,
Thanks.
And I looked at it and I was like, yeah, you know, I take an improv class at college.
You know, I'm like, I'm just, you know, I'm just feeling.
I'm feeling so good.
So we get in the car and she's like, I'm cold and I'm like, you can have my jacket and stuff.
And I'm doing like the cool thing.
The chivalry thing.
The chivalry.
I'm feeling chivalrous.
Oh, yeah.
And I'm freezing my ass off.
But, you know, we're driving around.
And I, I said, well, you know, it's only like 930, 945.
Do you know, we?
can go home or I could
drive us around for a while.
And she's like, I like that.
I was like, okay.
So then I adopt the cool guy position
where it's like,
this is one hand,
one hand on the steering.
But this isn't automatic.
So I don't even need the clutch.
It's just the thing that puts it as a power stance.
It's a power stance.
It's a power stance.
And so we stop at this red light.
And it's not even really,
I think it was around winter
because I know it's cold.
So maybe we're looking at Christmas lights
or something.
And it wasn't even a red light.
It was a stop sign.
So I met the stop sign.
And I'm chilling and she puts her hand on top of mine.
Oh.
And I freaked the fuck out and hit the gas.
And I teabone this other car coming right in front.
Like slammed it.
Like a sports car.
There was like a corvette or something.
I teabone that because I panicked so hard.
I was like, let's go.
And then like I'm driving through someone's lawn.
And she's like, stop the car.
Stop the car.
And I'm like, what?
And I'm like going to, I'm knocking over like,
Christmas decorations and I like turned the car around and I was like oh my God what if I I don't have a
cell phone because before I had one but they didn't exist yet so I had to go knock on the person's
door who I just drove through their yards and I was like oh no I'm so sorry can I please use your
phone and they're like is everybody okay I was like yeah and I of course I checked on the other person
they were totally fine I'd hit their passengers and it wasn't she was by herself and I like I dented
the front of their car, but, you know,
and I think there was like a brief moment
where I probably blamed someone else.
I was like, didn't they have it?
She was like, it's a two, it's your stop sign.
I was like, damn it.
So it was all my fault.
And I look at the car and it won't start.
I totally smash the front of this brand new Ford Focus.
And I was like, oh, fuck.
And so I couldn't reach her because I was calling home
and I think she was with her friends
or maybe she was watching a movie.
I don't know.
She probably was on a sixth edible.
I don't know.
So, so we had to call her mom.
And I was like, I'm so sorry.
I had this accident.
And can you please come pick us up?
We're at this place.
And she was like, oh, yeah.
Are you guys okay?
I was like, yeah.
And I already gave the insurance.
The other person's okay.
They left already.
Everyone's fine.
She's like, okay, I'm on my way.
I'll be there in like 30 minutes.
I was like, okay.
So now we're outside and she's like, she gets my coat.
And I'm just like, I'm so sorry.
This is so embarrassing.
And she was like, no, you know what?
It was still a really fun night.
And I had a good time.
And I was like, thank you.
So her mom,
never shows up. Like we don't see her. We don't know. It's been like 45 minutes and the family
comes back outside and they said, is something wrong? I was like, can I try calling home again?
And we call my cousin. He was like, bro, what's up? How is the date? And I was like, I totaled
my mom's car. Can you please come pick us up? He's like, what? I only have like a truck and I've got
like a deer thing in the deer head in the front. And I was like, that's okay. We all squeeze in the
back. And he was like, I'm over here. So he comes and picks us up. Then we're driving. So
So the Yamonote circles around Japan.
Pan City has a similar highway called 435, which just circles the city.
We're on 435 going back.
And this girl I'm with, like, stop your car.
Wait, I think I see my mom.
Her car had broke down on 435.
Oh my God.
So we picked up her mom.
And I'm in the middle between like mom and daughter.
And he was Justin's driving with this stupid deerhead in the front.
And all I can see is like his eyes and like the faint outlook of like a smile above.
his teeth. He's like, and he was like, so how is the olive garden? I was like, it was fine. And he was
like, did you, uh, I guess you're not going to need that thing in your pocket? And I was like,
no, he didn't say that in the car. I'm not wearing the jacket. So Justin, so when she, she goes like
this and then she like, I swear, this is how I remember it, but there's no clean ending this story
because I think I blacked out. If you were to film it, she like pulls it out and then the mom's
looking and I'm doing this, he's smiling, and then the Larry David music plays.
And it's like executive produced by and go fuck yourself. And I don't know how I got out of
that situation. That's so evil. Your cousin did you so good. He didn't know that she was wearing
the jacket. But that, yeah, Olive Garden, GameStop. This is literally in between a plot. Yeah,
this is. Is it? Have you watched it in between us? I know. This is your life. Dude, that was a
literally your life. That was a pretty, that's crazy. That was a cool story though. It's literally
about like. Yeah, we did.
happen to me but yeah we we you know so my mom you know to her credit i went home and i was like
she was i mean she had just got this car yeah and i was so embarrassed and i was like i'm so sorry mom
and she's like you know you've always been my favorite son i'm like i am your only son she just
she always said that too and i hang up the few my favorite son she was like as long as you're both
healthy i'm fine i'm just sad that you know you i couldn't help you more and i was like
Like, damn, Mom, I'm sorry, you're the true one.
And I was like, what are you going to do for work?
She goes, you know what?
She always says, we're Macy's.
We'll figure it out.
Oh, yeah.
So she closed.
So she lost the job.
She lost her job on Monday.
They look nice for another year.
And it was, that was the, that was one of the worst first dates, but also one of the best.
I mean, it's certainly the most memorable.
So.
A character building.
It was a character.
For sure.
Yeah.
character building. It writes itself. Briefly, this, I was also an usher at a, I worked at three
movie theaters, but this one leads to one more date story. Is that okay? Yeah, of course, man. Go crazy.
This one's way shorter. So I was a master usher at a theater. Okay, wait, wait. What is the
difference between an usher and a master usher? Who wants to usher the ushers? I'm glad you asked.
I was like a butler of so on. I was able to coordinate the other ushers, but that means they had to
come to me for their instructions.
How old are you at this point?
I think I was 34.
No, I'm kidding.
I was 20.
How old are these ushers?
Like 16?
Yeah, some of them were, I think we were all college students.
Oh, okay.
It was out of the theater at college.
You were just distinguished above the rest.
Special treatment.
And that also worked towards my shop class so that I was working for hours of like,
because I didn't want to paint or build.
So this girl who I had like the hugest crush on, she was so beautiful.
And I had never talked to her ever.
She was an usher that.
because she was like she needed the hours for the class.
And she was like, are you like the master usher or something that I have to talk to?
And I was like, uh, yeah, but you know what?
You don't have to do any.
I was such a wimp.
I was like, you can just chill and do your own things.
She was like, oh, so it's like, you're not even worth anything.
You're not doing anything.
I was like, I definitely have a lot of control.
You know what?
Actually, I'm going to need you at the front.
You have like this.
You got, let's go get her attitude.
And I was like, wow, that was, I need my bros to hype me up for this.
And so afterwards, called them all in.
Called them all.
So afterwards, I was like,
I told me,
I was like,
you know,
that was really fun,
you know.
She was like ushering.
And I was like,
ah,
yeah,
I was like,
you know,
this is something I don't normally do,
but I'm just going to swing here.
I was like,
you seem really cool and I'd like to get to know you better.
Do you just want to go out and get like coffee or something sometime?
She was like,
you know what?
That was a lot better than your usher game.
So yeah,
let's do that.
That'd be fun.
I was like,
that's sick.
So we went out.
We had coffee.
It's a great time.
And then she said, you know, like a week later or something at school,
we passed in the halls.
And she said, why don't you, you know, come to my place tonight.
You know, my friends are out of town.
And I've got the, I've got the whole apartment.
I was like, okay, yeah, that sounds cool.
Of course.
I'll be there.
What time you want to show up?
She's like, seven, seven 30.
I was like, yeah.
Pretty late.
It's pretty late.
I was like, I do that shit all the time.
That's cool.
Yeah.
So I go there and I'm like, very nervous.
I'm like, and I'm, I never had this opportunity before.
or like when, like, I feel like things were in motion that were beyond my understanding.
Right.
And I was like, I don't know why I navigate these uncharted waters.
Yeah.
So I go up there and we're watching a movie and I do the thing where every guy does.
I like, I sit as far away from her as possible because I'm, I don't know the vibe.
And then I go to the bathroom and I sit like a little closer.
And then I go to the bathroom again because I was like, I should just had closer.
And I do like, is something wrong with your blat?
I'm like, no, no, no.
I'm just, that awkward feeling of like slowly like, it is so real.
or you're like, yeah, nah, it's, yeah.
And you know, there's...
You can move your hand like this.
I know, it's so good.
And like, I actually am getting kind of nervous
even if you're telling these stories.
Yeah, because the thing about those,
and I had a really great acting coach
who you may remember called the radio station,
defended me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He said, uh, he goes,
you know, man,
when you're in these relationships and, like,
whether it's been like 10 years
or you meet someone for the first time,
you really got to like appreciate, dude,
those, those real raw moments.
We're like vulnerable and you don't know because someday you're going to be married like me and all that shit's going to be gone.
It's a routine.
And I was like, oh.
And he was like, no, I'm kidding.
We have new things.
But he's like, these are these are really vital.
And I was like, okay.
And I was, that was in my mind.
So I'm like, the heart's pumping.
And I do the thing that you do.
You know, like, oh.
Like slowly your hand is like, yeah.
No, actually this is a good sitting position.
And then you're like, and then once the arm was around, it like, it was like a.
loving a baseball. We just felt like this.
And it felt like I was like,
this is so cool. This is so awesome.
And we're watching this movie.
And I feel like, dude, this is the time
to go for the kiss because this movie is like
lame as fuck. This is like the longest movie
I've ever seen. I think I chose like Magnolia.
And it's a good movie. But like, I was like, get something
long so you're there for like four hours.
And I go in and we start
to like this brief kiss. And it's like
it's moving towards something. And then suddenly
I get like this on the door.
This dude is like, I'm not gonna say her name.
I'll say her name is Rachel.
He's like, Rachel, open the door.
I hear some movies in there.
I know you're not alone.
And she's like, get out of here.
I don't wanna see your face.
And I was instantly, I'm like, uh-oh, this is not what I'm,
and he was like, who else is in there?
Who's the other motherfucker in there?
I want to know who that motherfucker is.
And I was like, I can't do this.
I'm not strong.
And I was like, she was like, yeah, he could kick the shit out of you,
you piece of shit, and I'm glad I left your ass.
And he was like, who is it?
Who is it?
it. Who is it? And like, they
are arguing and I'm just sitting there
totally terrified. Terrified.
And eventually he was like, I ain't gonna
forget this and I'll be waiting outside.
I'll be waiting outside, motherfuckers.
And I was like, oh God, please
don't do this. And he left.
He feasibly left. And
she has like a breakdown now.
Now she's crying and I'm like, oh
fuck. This is all wrong.
And so we're trying to like fix this thing.
And I'm like, don't worry about it.
And she, she, like, stood up on the couch.
She was a shorter girl.
She stood up on the couch and was, like, looking through the blinds.
She was like, he's gone.
He was a loser.
I fucking hate that guy.
And I, I walked over to him.
I was like, it's okay.
And then, like, at that one moment, we were like the exact same height.
Right.
I said, it's going to be all right.
I'm here.
Like, I'm not going to do anything, but I was like, that sounds.
I won't help, but I'm here.
And then we had, like, this passionate embrace.
Hell yeah.
And I was like, let's fucking go.
This is sick.
I crushed.
And then she's like, oh, you know, I used to be this model.
Do you want to see some of the pictures?
Like, yeah, of course.
You're very beautiful.
And I'm going through these pictures.
And I was like, yeah, these are great.
And then like, some of them are kind of, yeah, I'm like, yes, yes.
Some of them are kind of artistic.
And I'm like, well, these are lacking a lot of the clothing that I normally see.
But this is very, it's very cool, black and white, whatever.
And then she goes, yeah, I'm, here, let's just, I have some more in my room.
Do you want to come take a look at it?
And I was like, yeah, sure.
Totally miss that signal.
Like it was just fired right past me.
So I go into her room and she's like,
I think they're over by the bed and she's like, whatever, getting near the bed.
And on her wall, she had like this enormous poster.
It was huge.
It was like, I guess as big as the TVs we get for free now.
But it was like John Lennon.
But all of his face was smaller pictures of John Linen.
Like a mosaic.
Yeah, it was like a giant mosaic.
And I was like, I was just lost it staring at that.
And I was like, this is crazy.
There's so many John Lennon's.
I didn't even think.
And then she was like, well, why don't you come sit next to me?
I was like, yeah, yeah, just one second.
I was like, some of these even have the Beatles, but I thought they broke up and he's dead.
And she's like, yeah, it's just a poster.
And I was like, oh, yeah, and I turn around, she's completely naked.
Completely naked.
Completely.
Damn.
And she said, she kind of like does this thing.
She goes, just make yourself comfortable.
I'm like, uh, uh, here's what I did.
So bad.
I took off my shoes and laid next to her.
That was good.
And I was just sitting there like now.
Like a little,
a sweater.
And I'm just so scared.
Well,
you all comfortable.
You were very comfortable.
She was like,
isn't that hot?
And I was like,
no,
I'm fine.
And she's like, well,
you know,
the bed has covers.
I'm like,
yeah,
that's how I always sleep.
And,
you know,
I wish that there was a natural
end to this story.
I didn't have the courage to go through with that.
I felt like everything was just happening too fast.
Yeah, that's a lot.
Yeah, that's a bit mocked.
And I just felt like this,
this is not right for me right now.
Yeah.
And so I was like, this is so crazy and cool,
but I think I need, it's, I gotta go.
You're so cool and crazy, but I gotta go.
I was like, I don't think I can even stand up
for the next four hours.
Do you want to finish the movie that?
So it was, that was the other dating story that I fondly remember where I looked at a poster
and I saw a naked woman and took off my shoes.
I can't, it's so lame.
It's so pathetic.
I don't think you, if you were cool in your dating life and you're like 18, I think science
is gone wrong.
Yeah.
No, I don't think I ever got cool with my day.
Yeah, but I mean, like if you were, if you were like, yeah, I was 16 and I just kind of knew
everything.
It's like, what?
No, it's meant to be awkward.
Yeah.
It was very awkward.
So that was fun, but I was working as an usher there.
I worked for Bose, the music company.
I worked at Best Buy Circuit City.
I worked at the mall briefly selling.
Oh, that was fun.
I worked at like one of those sunglasses hut things.
And across from me, it was so annoying because it was this other kiosk that had calendars.
That was like the only thing they sold, like a classic mall in America.
And the one that was always there was, it was.
is my favorite thing to watch.
It was a calendar called studs and spurs.
And it was these cowboys with like six packs
and their boots and jeans on.
And every, I would just,
that's like all that's facing me is the studs and spurs catalog.
And I loved watching women walk by and double take
and then kind of be like, should I buy it?
Should I look at March?
Like, what does October look like?
And I'd be like, I'd always be like,
are the months the same as they always were?
I need a check.
Yeah, I was like, just buy it.
I was like in that age.
But movie theater.
theaters, countless restaurants.
God damn, you've done everything.
What haven't you done, man?
It was a lot.
It was a lot of different jobs here and there.
You're talking about your dating thing.
Remind me of when Chris was telling us about his first kiss.
He snogged Tom Scott for three hours or whatever he say.
What did he say?
He said, he said, yes, it was, we weren't doing it.
And then suddenly, we snogged for three hours.
And I was like, he made it sound so clinical.
And I was like, it's such a passionate.
Snob is the worst.
That's a passionate embrace.
And he was like three hours,
but the snogging is finished.
And I can imagine it.
And he's like, was that good?
It was good, wasn't it?
So, but yeah, the...
I have flashbacks to terrible dating.
Yeah, we've all been there.
Actually, your story here just give,
I think I like, you unlock so many core memories
that I just like, you unlocked about three terrible dates.
I think of my mind.
There's some people on that, you know,
and they liked this show.
And they were like, yeah, we like it
because it kind of taught us to like,
don't worry about being yourself.
I was like, what the fuck are you talking about?
Don't worry about being yourself.
And I was like, oh, no way.
Actually, I remember when I liked this girl,
I would literally do anything that I thought she liked.
Yep.
I would be like, who am I?
I don't even know.
I love Twilight and I love One Direction.
Like, that's what I, that's me.
That's what I love.
I love the notebook is the notebook.
I love the notebook, no book's amazing.
Yeah, why not?
Like, let's run it back.
You know, I always forget that awkward part
of where you're like, I,
where you think like you as a guy or,
I mean, it's pretty a very like a relatable thing
where you're just like, you just think that whatever you're into
is automatically not what they're into.
Yeah.
Thus you need to change everything.
Yeah. And you're like, yes, I like what you like and movies.
I like that thing you just mentioned to me
for two seconds ago.
I know all about it. Let me guess.
I can formulate the perfect personality
that make, that will make her like me.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
We will have the same interest.
Yeah, yeah.
And what's so sad though, and I think
Times are better now, but I remember growing up.
I don't know about that.
Well, I mean, maybe not.
I mean in this regard that I'm about to say.
Okay, okay.
When I grew up, it was a very still misogynistic culture
about like trying to date as many people as you can.
I had zero success with this.
But that was like, and then-
That was the vibe, right?
It was like, oh yeah.
It was like deeper culture.
Yeah, I mean, it was just like, you know,
we wanna, all that consumed our thoughts was like,
I wanna date girls or I wanna be with some.
Well, it was like losing your virginity
was like such a big-
Well, that was like American.
It also came out when we were in like school.
Yeah.
A big thing at the time.
But it was, it was always like such a big like, oh, I don't know.
Like every, every guy always talked about.
If they had sex, they were like, if they had sex and it was always like, bro, you're still
a version.
It was like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was always like the lead up to like the big event and like, you know, I got to a point
where I'm like, damn, I looked to my left.
I look to my right and I'm like, I'm the only one.
I'm going to college, man.
I'm going to university.
Shit, that's so real.
I hate you.
You know what I mean?
And I'm like, damn, is there something wrong with me?
I just have zero fucking game.
It's like, damn, maybe I am gay.
I remember that we, I also worked at a FedEx Kinkgo's
as an overnight shift where I was.
Okay, I mean, did you just, did you just like,
we were a completionist of jobs?
That was actually the best because I could bring my PC in there
and play World of Warcraft during the entire night.
Wait, the full on like, like fucking.
I had to bring the tower.
Yeah, yeah.
What the fuck?
You brought it in every shift.
Or my friends would.
bring board games and we just play, you know, games and stuff.
Yeah.
But I remember when this was, this was in my 20s or whatever, early 20s, and it was, it was
during that culture of that.
And I remember somebody had bought a enormous, giant, huge printout of the whole world.
And then they didn't need it, but it was on this really thick poster vinyl.
And so I had it hanging up in my basement.
And we were playing games one day.
And a third friend was like, we should like have a game where it's like, we all have different
basis and we should try to like meet women and like we can have a competition to see who can
who can have the most women from different countries. It's like risk and I was like that sounds fun.
The only problem with that was after about three months we had to change the rules. I was like
what if we talk to foreign women like instead of being with them like if there's what if we just
said like I saw someone from Europe do I get to claim Europe and I was like this isn't us guys.
We're not cool.
We're not dating like that.
And even then we're like, this is not our culture,
but we have this cool map.
And I was like, why don't we just play risk with it?
So yeah, it was during that whole American pie,
cheesmo.
And I think these days people are a lot more accepting.
And like, I think, at least in Japan students were.
Yeah.
I mean, I think because like now there isn't that like weird expectation
or like social pressure to be like,
you got to, if you're a dude,
If you're 16 years old and you haven't lost your virginity,
then you're, you suck.
Quite a question to you, our younger audience,
is there still a pressure to hook up and lose your virginity?
If there is, don't worry about it.
If there is, don't worry about it.
I'm just curious because it was such a huge formative part
of our childhoods and it was such a huge factor
in judging our own self-worth and now we are of my shoulder
and we're like, shit, that shit was like stupid and worthless.
It was completely crazy.
It was so toxic.
It was so dumb, but yeah, that was a different era.
Yeah, I mean, also I just don't think,
part of the reason I think it might still be there
is just because I don't think we can get rid
of horniness as a teenage.
Yeah, yeah.
We hear just, of course not.
You hit puberty and those hormones hit hard
and you're like, budge into the door and I'd come.
You know what I mean?
Stop my toe in.
Yeah, being a teenager was very different.
It was very simple a teenager.
time. It was very different. I remember, oh man, my first experience, my first, my first ever
experience, like, feeling that like, that like emotion, whatever you want to call it.
So I was like, I was, we were at our computer and we were still in school, right? So this is
right around the time of like puberty age, right? And we, like, I was like, me and the boys,
we was like computer class and we were just like playing,
I think we're like playing Age of Empires too.
Some shit like that.
Hell yeah.
Age of War.
At school?
Yeah, at school, because-
You had Age of Empires on your PC?
Do you know we Age of War?
No, it was, I'm pretty sure it was Age of Empires.
What the fuck?
Because some guy found a way to install it on the,
on like the fucking computer PCs.
So it was like lunchtime.
So it was like, you know, a lot of people were out,
but me and a few other kids were playing.
How does this get from Age of Empires
to jack it off?
I don't know.
I don't know.
All right.
But I remember one of the girls in my class,
like she comes, she comes up to us.
And it was just after PE.
So PE is like physical education.
So she was like wearing her like,
her like sports clothes.
Sports clothes, right?
And no female sports clothes back in the day
was just like she was just wearing like
a really long t-shirts, right?
And I remember she comes up to us like,
a group of boys and she's like, hey, wanna see something
cool.
Uh-oh.
She did know.
And she was just like, she was just like,
what the fuck?
And I was like, and then she was like,
and they just ran off.
And I was like, what the fuck?
I'm serious, I'm serious.
That's burned into your brain.
And I was like, ha ha ha, that's weird.
I just like, I just.
See, what's crazy is I tried the same thing last week.
Oh, now I have.
A check mark on my right, yeah.
The reason is burned into my memory,
it was because like, I remember as a kid,
I was like, that's weird.
I don't like, I was like, that's a bit weird.
So I would go back to playing Age of Empires
and I'm like,
why can I not stop thinking about what I've just seen?
This is so weird.
So the game is very boring.
Yeah.
What once was the most important?
Yeah, yeah.
Why is gaming not my top priority
That's like, keep on my mind right now.
This is so weird.
Oh my God.
That is like burn into my memory.
But yeah, that was, that was a very weird experience.
She changed your life forever.
What the fuck?
That's insane.
Yeah.
Your child is literally walk up.
Yeah, literally.
That's, yeah.
I would also, if that happened to me,
I would probably remember that for the rest of my life too.
I think I'm going to remember the story
for the rest of my life.
The audacity of this last.
I remember telling you the story.
They used to have this channel in the UK
called,
you just called Babe Station.
Did you ever this thing?
Oh yeah, yeah.
Babe Station?
Yeah, that's way worse than the map.
It was basically those like channels
that would go live at like 11 p.m.
on like page 95.
You'd just feel like fucking...
Yeah, right, channel 95.
You'd be like pressing up up
because the fucking even the remote wouldn't go to
it when you'd feel like 95.
Yeah.
You'd find it.
It would basically be these like women
who'd be like,
call us, we're like sexy or whatever.
Yeah.
But it would only be on screen for,
I don't know why,
it was only on screen for like 30 seconds.
So it was always like a fucking race
against the clock to like try.
I'd be like, hold, hold, hold.
And you're like, I go.
And then it would go off.
You'd be like, no, I nodded to a fucking vacuum commercial.
But that's the worst version.
The predating version of that in America
was during, when cable was a thing,
This is like high school, right?
Yeah.
And we would all be, maybe middle school, early high school.
We would be sitting around the TV that has cable but not HBO,
Skinimax, or Cinemax.
And so we called it back then, like, the other movie channels.
And we'd be watching the distorted, like, blur.
And then somebody would be like, I saw the boob.
I'm like, no, you did.
You did not.
And I was like, wait, maybe that was.
And I was like, I think that's a nipple.
And we would sit there and just hope.
And like, we would see it in the squiggles.
and the discolour coloring that like popped in.
And sometimes you'd get like a glorious like it just somehow the planets would align.
Yeah.
And you'd get like six minutes of like a movie and you'd be like,
get the tape recorder, hit record.
And it was, that was the old days.
You had page 95.
We had Skinnamax distorted boobs.
I mean, kids now, it's, I feel sorry for them.
They have the whole thing in their hands with, not the thing.
Every kind of.
They also have that in the hands.
Don't even have to work for it.
It's just, uh, yeah.
They don't know the real.
of having to be secretive.
All they do is fucking go into incognito.
And that's all the job they need to do.
I might have, I base, I know I did.
I definitely printed off a naked woman's picture once
from the internet.
Really?
For sure.
Yo, yo, you stay here.
Yeah.
Wow, you're mugging me?
Don't worry about.
And then you would like fold it up and be like,
someday I'll forget and your mom would be like,
I found this clean, you know, like, uh, it's like Carmen
lecture or something. I don't know.
Like, who knows, but.
Oh my God, I have, oh, you just,
you just, you just like to call memory.
Well, the other thing, I think we talked about this,
I think, because all of our conversations
go back to Kazah and
your dad found it.
Yeah.
Um, my, my friends found it.
Oh.
Yeah.
Cause I put it, I stupidly, so I don't know if I've told
this story, maybe I have, but, uh, I remember it was like
my first time discovering hentai, wasn't even like women.
It was just like hentai, right?
And it was just like,
anime girls back in the day.
And then I just like printed them off
and I hit them in a gaming magazine.
I remember it was no, it was a Nintendo magazine.
Damn, oh my god.
I was like, ain't no way anyone's ever gonna find this.
Cause my parents didn't give a shit about gaming.
So I was like, they're not gonna find it.
The gaming magazine is the last place they'll ever look.
So I remember.
It turns out it wasn't the last place they ever looked.
So it turns out my parents don't look at Nintendo magazines.
My friends do though.
So I had friends over and we were playing games.
I think we were playing like Smash Bros or something.
I went to the toilets.
I came back and like the fucking the magazine was like fully open with all like the picture spread out.
And like the biggest bullshit I could say was like,
I'm holding on to them.
I'm surprised the bloody thing open.
It's my cousins, actually.
What are those?
Yeah.
I don't know.
Don't worry about it.
I remember this is back when like Bluetooth was just kind of starting.
Like, and I had this one of the flip phones.
Which, you know, we would always send each other like videos after like, you know, it would be like 10p.
Yeah.
And this one guy was like, yeah, I've got, I've got fucking, I've got porn.
Oh my God.
I had that experience too.
I was like, no shit.
I was like, yo, can you send me?
He's like, yeah.
I should, don't tell anyone, don't tell you one.
And so he's sending it to me, you know, it's Bluetooth
and it's taking fucking forever.
And it canceled once.
And I was like, dude, it's halfway.
You're like, come on, send it to me, I read it.
The school is ending in like 30 minutes.
And I was like, dude, we got 30, fuck.
It's like fucking mission impossible trying to download
the fucking coordinates to that.
I was like, send me the fucking video, dude.
Come on, what the fuck, man.
Because at the time, it wasn't even that,
like, I didn't even know what to do with porn.
It was just like a status symbol in school.
To have that.
You want to have access to it.
Yeah.
the cork in.
Yeah, I got it.
Yeah, I could send it to you.
So maybe the 90s weren't the best.
I take it back now.
Unbridled off times.
Yeah.
And I remember I finally, you know,
it didn't happen that day.
And I was like, you fucking need you.
Tomorrow, you better not fuck me on the,
don't fuck me on this tomorrow.
Yeah.
And so next day we go in and he's like,
I don't want to send you over lunch.
So, you know, wait.
And you just say next to each other.
So, you know, I'm saying like,
you know, we're just chatting, whatever.
And I finally get it.
And I'm like, yeah, okay, shit, okay.
So I wait till I get home and I open it.
and I open this porn,
it's like five seconds of the blurrish shit in existence.
You cannot see anything.
And all you can hear is like the most scuffed.
Oh, oh.
Now it's all you needed though.
And I'm like, sweet.
And honestly, honestly?
Yeah, we're dear.
I'm not proud of it.
I'm not proud of it.
But like you couldn't make anything out.
You're like, you, and I think I was jacking off
more to the idea of porn.
Yeah, it's porn.
I was like, yeah, it's porn.
This is what I'm- At that point, you have no idea what to expect.
Yeah, so I'm like, sure, whatever.
Yeah, I can make it work.
So you're in your brain, you're just like,
this is what porn is, I guess.
That's, yeah, that's crazy.
Yeah, that's interesting being a teenager.
Yeah. Yeah, some things never change, huh?
Nope. Something's never change.
You guys remember your first kiss?
Yeah, we spoke about this, yeah.
That was unfortunate.
Me too, me too.
Well, okay, here's the thing,
the distinction we had to make.
Okay.
Which is like, like, maybe you had like that first kiss
where you had like a little pack
on the playground with a girl,
like a full on kiss.
Yeah, dude, it was a fucking mess.
Yeah, mine was kind of magical.
Fuck off.
Fuck you.
Get the fuck out of it.
In my head, it was, it was all that.
Okay, there's no way it was magical for her.
I don't believe it.
Tell me.
She's on another podcast saying,
oh, I had a horrible experience.
This fucking piece of shit.
I tell me, tell me.
We were at her house.
It was, it was me, her, and then like, uh,
my guy friend and her.
girlfriend.
Right.
And it was just like the four of us, I was like,
11, I think.
So I was like what?
11.
All right, Don Juan.
I was like,
11.
Damn.
11?
Yeah, I was like 11.
What the fuck?
Yeah, no, I left college.
Yeah.
He's like 11, yeah, already got a name.
Yeah.
She was naked.
I was 33.
This virgin thing, I'm gonna figure it out.
I'm really excited.
You're like, yeah, 11, I just making out.
Mind you, between this folks,
and me losing my-
Biggie me.
There was a large.
I just don't believe it was magical then.
It was magical you would have pounced on it.
No, it was-
Magical at 11.
Magical you would have carried that confidence
into like everything.
I remember like we were just like hanging out
and then my mom came to pick me up from her house
and then she was like, oh, I'll go with you
to like, you know, go say, yeah, go get the door for you
or whatever.
And the thing, I vividly remember it.
I'm like, I step out of the house,
I turn around to say something to her
and she just grabs my face.
And that's exactly what happens.
to me. And then mine was anti-magical.
Oh, this is exactly same thing.
So basically, but it was my house and her sister came to pick her up.
And when I said like, okay, that was fun, she reached in and like,
started to make out with me.
Yeah.
And I felt like the semblance of a tongue.
Yeah.
And I pulled her back and said, what are you doing?
And then she ran to the car.
And I was like, no, okay.
For me, for me, there was no tongue.
Why was it magical then?
It was magical because one, it was literally my first kiss.
I liked this girl as well at the time.
So it just felt more, but I didn't know because I was a little bitch boy.
I was too afraid to ask like,
do you like me because I like you?
Send me a note circle, yes.
Yeah, yeah, I was literally doing the no thing, right?
So like in my head I was just like, oh man, you know,
I wanna like stick around with her, you know, and like hang out,
but I, you know, my mom's come to pick me up, so I can't.
And you know, I had no idea that she liked me as well.
So it was, it all just had just had.
happened so fast.
Like she literally grabbed my face, just went,
like that, and then said bye, and then slammed the door.
Like you're a fucking toddler, bro.
Yeah, man.
And like, I, I,
you're like, no, did that just happen?
And the walk, and the walk from her, from the door,
to my mom's car, I was just floating.
Yeah, you never touched the ground,
I never touched the ground.
I was like, that was awesome.
Was your first kiss kids?
Was your first kiss kids or?
Oh, no, it was like horrible.
Oh, okay.
I was, I think I got my first kiss pretty late.
Like, how old were you guys?
Cause I was like, I was in high school.
13. 16, 17.
Yeah, 16, 14.
Damn, am I the weird one?
No, I think you're, among weird.
You're like our god.
Wow.
I didn't even start talking to girls
until I was like pretty late before.
Yeah, I was, I was pretty late.
So I love to hear your story.
I know, I was, I remember we were on the beach.
And it sounds magical.
Oh, it's Bryant beach.
So turn the magic down about like a half.
Yeah, we got the stone beach.
Yeah.
But we were, you know, it was kind of like a,
kind of like a small gathering at that point
where a lot of us, you know, in America,
you had the mall.
Where I grew up, we had the beach, right?
And I remember there was this girl
who had just, you know,
he was just from like another school.
It was like the first time I talked to her.
She's realized where?
Huh?
She's realized where.
She's real.
She's real.
I will know,
I still remember her name to this day
because God,
yeah.
This shit be like a core memory to me.
Yeah.
And so,
you know,
it was the first time that I'd ever,
I guess,
held a long conversation with a girl
that wasn't,
you know.
We kiss now.
Conversation complete.
Kissing time.
Commence.
It's time to snog for three hours.
Conversation complete.
And I remember we were,
uh,
It was like my first attempt, I guess, like trying to flirt
and that shit.
And I'm like, ain't no way, this is actually working.
No fucking way that something is happening right now.
Right.
So I remember there was just a small,
there's just like a small group of us, right?
And we were sitting by the West Pier, which the West Pier,
if you don't know, is a pier that crashed and burned down
in Brighton, which,
Definitely was, very romantic.
Definitely was a metaphor for what was about to transpire.
Oh no.
Oh, we know.
And so I was like, you know, I felt some,
I felt some chemistry going and I was just like,
do I kiss?
What's the right, what's the right signal to kiss?
Like how do I, how do people know with this shit?
You know, how do people know?
Should I ask?
Should I, can I kiss you?
Can I ask?
I was like, we were vibing.
We were like sitting pretty close together.
Yeah.
And I was like, I feel like can get close.
So I feel like I can guess.
So we're like, we like good chemistry.
Luckily, she was, she was clearly more experienced than me.
So we looked in the eyes and then she just goes like that.
And I was like, holy shit, that is the fucking go button.
That is the go button.
And I just thought, like a fucking sleeper agent being activated.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That is the go button.
And I just felt a shot of adrenaline.
Yeah, of course, yeah.
And I was like, holy shit, this is happening.
Fucking first thing that happens, like,
uh-oh, do bang heads?
Oh, bang heads?
Oh, terrible.
Terrible.
Damn.
Speed of light.
I'm just like, oh shit, she gave me the go.
Bam, like that.
And I'm like, and she's like, it's okay, it's okay,
it's okay, don't worry.
And I proceed to be like, is it still okay to like?
And she's like, yeah.
Yeah, sure, for one, asking for like permission to do this shit.
May I?
Yes, may I, ma'am?
Probably like the negative, negative fucking Riz right there.
I think our hearts are in the right place.
I'm guilty of it too, come on now.
I think our hearts are in the right place.
We can make this work.
We care about consent.
How about that?
Exactly.
Yeah, we were ahead of our time, thank you.
So, so I go in for, as Chris would call the snog,
right?
Our lips touch.
And then I'm like, what's the technique?
how does one do this?
How did the French do it?
Yeah, yes.
When does one initiate the tongue, right?
What is, what is, what is?
You know what I mean?
I don't know the shit.
The only thing I know about kissing
is from Hollywood, right?
So I'm like, so I, so I must have felt like a fucking snake,
a fucking lizard.
Because like, I'm just like a lizard.
Here it goes.
I'm just like, you know how snakes, like they taste the air?
Yeah.
Oh no.
So I was just like,
oh no.
Like that and she's like,
and she's like,
she's like,
we're gonna work on that.
And I'm like,
I'm like, I've blown it.
I've fucking blown it.
This is the other worst thing is when we were
in high school, you would hear the,
they'd be like, so and so is an amazing kisser.
Yeah.
And I think, wait, there's like a tier list.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like there's a right way and a wrong way.
How do you become the ST?
Yeah.
What is good kissing technique?
Yeah, and so I think for a lot of us,
we just disqualified ourselves
from giga chat of the year anyway.
So that's it, we don't know.
So they have like, like, that was so burned into my memory
that I was just like, after that, I was just like,
I literally like went on the internet and be like,
how do you kiss well?
Practice with a pillow, these techniques.
I mean, ironically, that night,
I was like, I gotta get some practice.
I went for like the back of the hand.
I was like, I can't let this happen again, man.
I think, yeah.
I was, uh, it's true.
Yeah,
based.
I was,
I think I was like 14.
And,
um,
so I,
I went to like a Welsh school,
which is kind of like,
out of the way.
But,
uh,
my,
my,
my best friend,
he went to a concert and met this girl.
And,
uh,
he was,
14,
he was going to concerts
and doing cool shit?
I think so,
I think he was 14,
15.
I'm trying to remember now.
And he was like,
yeah,
dude,
she's totally chill.
She lives right next to you.
I was like,
oh, cool, man.
He said,
yeah,
she talked to her.
what he's like dude i'm trying i'm trying to get with her i was like oh oh shit my bad well i'm just
gonna go hang out i'm sure it's nothing and then uh you know we're just chatting for like two
hours and she's like hey let's kiss i was like yeah yeah she just came out with it damn she was
like a year year or too older than me yeah and so i was like yeah okay sure yeah yeah so she starts like
you know kissing and i'm just like like like probably like a monolith i'm like she's like you know
Snogging is the only word, I suppose, is suitable.
And I'm just trying to like,
I'm like trying to copy the movements that I'm feeling.
Yeah.
And so I'm like, oh, no, oh, no.
Like, I'm like, yeah, cover all the taste buds.
Like, just lick all of the mouth.
Cause I'm like, what do you do?
Like, I'll like, yeah, I'll just cover the entire mouth area.
That'll feel good.
Like a wiggle at one point.
Yeah, yeah.
And I'm like, oh, okay.
And then, you know, and then like, you know,
you know, when you've had like the worst kiss
of your life and you pull a way,
and then you're like, yeah.
I remember being like my entire, like, I had like baby food.
Just slubber all over like here.
You know it's bad when it like goes above the way?
Yeah, she's like, that was good.
I was like, yeah, that was so good.
And then the next couple of times I met up with this, she was like, yeah,
yeah, I like you a lot, but you know, my ex-Johnny, he's just, you know,
he's messaging me. I was like, oh, okay, cool.
Let's make out again.
Yeah, I said, let's keep making out.
Why are we talking about Johnny?
Yeah.
And then like three days later, she's like, yeah, I'm leaving you for Johnny.
Because Johnny was like 18 and I was like, I can't compete with Johnny.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think all of our stories have explained an awful lot about our careers.
I just sat there.
About our personalities.
We may not be Rizzlers or whatever the term is, but I think everybody, no matter who you are, has those same stories.
I just imagine you, when you had this thing and you pushed her away, you just mocked her.
You were like, kiss you.
He was naked.
I said honkshoo me me me me me me I was like I was like I see that's the thing is I didn't even have to talk I just had to turn my back to her and it was like an anime and she was like I can't this guy's too much on too yeah yeah oh my god there's memories that I'm at that point now I'm like yeah whatever those embarrassing moments make you yeah yeah exactly and like you said learned what not to do at the time it felt like your world was crumbling yeah
It's like, I'm going to die now.
That's another thing that, you know, I have noticed that as I've gotten older,
there were moments like this or other things that were really actually genuinely impactful in my life.
But as it's, I've gotten into my 40s, I think, was that when I was 23 or 26?
I have no recollection.
It's like you get to a point where those that do not diminish the importance of them,
but remembering the details can be very, very hard.
And then as you were telling me your story about these, these peers and these things,
I had a bunch of new memories come back
that I haven't thought of in a decade or two decades.
But they were life or death when they happened or transformed.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Yep, that was a fun one.
Wow.
Yeah.
I think that's, wait.
So I have one more thing for Connor.
Oh, shit.
Just close your eyes.
Here we go.
For me?
No, this is from, you don't have to close your eyes.
You can open them.
When I, last year, we met at TwitchCon in the EU.
Yeah.
and I held an event for our community.
And instead of, they showered you with gifts.
So I have one.
No, wait.
Wait, what?
Oh, one of them was actually so cool.
It's this one and I think that-
Dude, this was so sick.
I think it'd be perfect for your background.
Either at home or here.
Yeah, I'm kind of, what is it?
I'm kind of selfish.
I wanna definitely take this one home.
Yeah, I just didn't want it in my house anymore.
So yeah.
Okay.
I couldn't take it because I was going to America right after.
So he made me, Carrie.
So I made him go, because he was going home
and I was like, you know what?
Oh, okay.
No, I won't, I want, no.
Well, I gotta take off the padding now.
Well, it's a little anticlimactic.
It's not.
Well, it's cooler than that.
It's cool than that.
It's cool.
It's cool user name, Flood to Flood made,
they also made me one, but mine did get damaged
in the way home, but I'll let you guys see this one first.
Yeah, look at that.
Oh, cool.
Oh, isn't that sick?
That's sick.
Fucking awesome.
Hell yeah.
It's really well done.
Dude, the detail on the shoe.
Oh my God.
Are those the Vessies?
What they saw?
They're not vese.
Well, yes.
They're not vese.
I think they look like,
likeling shoes.
Yeah, they're pretty cycling shoes.
That's so sweet.
Dude, the attention to detail
on the T-shirt is where I'll, like,
that's amazing.
Like, how do you do that?
I gotta give this a claim.
There you go.
So the one that I got was also like the full van.
Oh, yeah.
But it got, and I was like standing next to it,
like chilling and doing the same thing.
But when I got home and unwrapped it,
it had been not as carefully and lovingly packed.
But my character had been flipped off the diorama
and is heads upside down being hit by the car.
And I thought about opening up and fixing it.
But Ian was like, no, that's how I always thought of those streams.
So please keep it.
So on the background of that, it has me being hit by Ian in the van gang.
So it's a really fun.
Thank you for bringing it.
Yeah, there you go.
That's so cute.
These guys continue to inspire.
He's got my purple bike, dude.
There you have it.
Well, that was super fun.
Thank you very much.
People coming on.
Shout out to you so much.
Who was the user-nated?
Flood to Flood.
Flood to flood, thank you so much.
I've actually loved this.
Thank you so much.
And thank you for coming on once again.
Reminding us of our core memories
that we tried very, very hard to forget.
I really do wanna forget.
Yeah, yeah, very kind.
Thank you for letting me be here.
But if you want to see more of Pete,
you can- Check them out.
Live all the time.
Checking on TV slash Premiere 2.
Yeah.
Or we are also gonna be playing some games
just after this.
This is gonna be our coping mechanism
for everything we just did about.
I think I'm gonna need some of these
for coping as well.
Yeah, yeah, well,
We'll crack another one.
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Yeah.
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Wait, we don't need to tell you that.
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It was actually a pleasure.
You guys are great listeners.
Thank you for guiding.
I mean, you do our job for us with these episodes.
You make it too easy.
Yes.
Well, thank you so much.
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