Trash Taste Podcast - THE GIGACHAD IS BACK (ft. @PremierTwo ) | Trash Taste #237

Episode Date: January 3, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to another episode of Trash Taste. I'm joined by the boys once again, and this time by a very special guest who's joining us, Pete, Premier Tzu. Oh, thank you. First of all, didn't, don't I get some sort of a special intro? Because I mean, it's a two-time award winner. Okay, hold on, hold on, hold it.
Starting point is 00:00:17 No, I got it, I got it. I got it. I mean, I won. All right, okay. All right, fine, fine, fine, all right. Special guests out of them. Welcome, welcome to this episode of Trash Taste. I'm joined by the boys and joined to, The two-time award-winning Giga-Chad.
Starting point is 00:00:34 You know him, you love him, you've paid for the full seat, but don't worry, you're going to be very comfortable the entire time because it's going to be a two-hour banger by Pete, Perry and two! I feel so much better with that intro. But, you know, truthfully, thank you. That was very good. That was some W.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Way in a $300,000. Maybe $3.30. But I was thinking about, you know, how I was a two-time. I'm giga Chad award winner. But the reality is, I haven't seen you guys in about a year on the show, right? Yeah. What you guys have done in the last year
Starting point is 00:01:07 is like insane character development. You've been broadcasting anime to a whole new generation of weabs on Twitch. That's character development, bro. I'm not, that's character regression. No, that was great. All I'm doing is watching anime fee.
Starting point is 00:01:22 That's no achievement to be talking about. He's been doing that for the past 16 years, dude. But I got to see it on Twitch, which felt like, something that was always so against the rules. You can't broadcast any copyright material. So you brought Overlord to me. And I was like, that's saying. You watched it.
Starting point is 00:01:39 I did. I was like this is a thing. And then you've been creating a clothing and burping in my face. Which is, no, but you created a clothing empire that you had a pop up in Shibuya. Empire is a strong word.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Which is insane, though. But you like, you know, you got to go into one of the most biggest buildings in Tokyo. You've raised a million dollars Well, we, we raise, re-raised, we raised. Among other things, all I've done in the last year, genuinely, is I got a haircut and I gained 12 kilos. That's like it.
Starting point is 00:02:09 So I feel like it was awesome to win the award twice, but I think that you guys actually are the true gig of chats. And congratulations. No, no, I don't want your, I don't want your, see audience. This is a classic form of manipulation. No, it's not. He's already securing the third award. No, I, give it to someone out. The question is, did you know what a gigacad was
Starting point is 00:02:32 before you won the first award? Absolutely. Not. I had no idea. So, I mean, I'd seen the meme, but like of the guy doing the poses. Yeah, but I thought that was just from trash taste and you guys. Like, I thought that was just something you guys. No, we didn't answer that.
Starting point is 00:02:47 We're not original. We steal. From an after dark episode or something. Right, right. And then when we did the first cyclathon, I added it as an alert, but the TTS couldn't say it right. They said, Jigakad. I thought it was gigacid for like,
Starting point is 00:03:03 oh, is that the way you actually say it for a minute? And then, you know, it's a fun, it's a fun term, I guess. Gig and Chad. It just rolls off the time. It is fun. How long have you been doing, so you transitioned to doing Twitch? Four year, four time. Four years.
Starting point is 00:03:18 It's been four years now. Yeah. Congratulations. You just had it recently, right? Yeah, the four year anniversary of my wife thinking daily, I think we should cheers to that, Pete. I think we should cheers to that. It does sound.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Oh, speaking of another amazing thing, you guys have your own beer. Oh yeah. Yes. Well, cheers for four years. Yeah, cheers for four years. Wow, it didn't explode. Weirdly not. Yeah, I mean, it's just knocked around.
Starting point is 00:03:43 All right, so. They don't pressurize can. Now that you've been doing Twitch for four years, how is your meme knowledge? How is your knowledge of like modern slang and modern lingo? I mean, I mean, it's tough, but. Oh, oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:03:59 No. He did it. No, no, he learned this from like literal like four-year-olds. Oh, yeah, that's true. Well, Ludwig classifies, I guess. Yeah, we were on the RV trip. We had this, we were in like a llama, an alpaca zoo. Oh, yeah, and there's a bunch of school kids,
Starting point is 00:04:15 and then they just obviously came out to us and they were asking questions, and Ludwig mugged one of them, and then the kid did it back flawlessly and better. Yeah, way better. He destroyed him, and now Pete won't stop doing it. Shh, shh, okay. So, it's so weird to see him.
Starting point is 00:04:33 I know, I'm 41 and I'm mugging Connor. I would say that- You mug me all the time. I'm here. But, you know, it's an interesting thing because the culture is so much faster with these meme games. And what is popular,
Starting point is 00:04:47 even six weeks or a year ago, is completely unpopular now. And I... It's more like six hours. It really is. It's crazy. And so I think I'm lucky In a sense, on my channel, I think there's not a lot of that. I mean, there is, like, we joke about it.
Starting point is 00:05:05 But you go to a normal Twitch channel and it has a lot of emotes or reactions of alms or cot or cinema or all these, like, people just spam the same thing. Yeah. Yeah. I think my viewers are maybe sleeping, but, uh, no, so it's, I think we still have like conversations and stuff. So the opportunity to learn slang is still, I think your chat still is like full of actual like human interaction. Yeah, I think so. But it has been fun. Every time I get to hang out with the younger kids, as you guys are, I get to learn all new things.
Starting point is 00:05:37 The younger kids. The younger kids. I mean, we're gonna be useless in that regard soon. Yeah. We're gonna be up there. We already are. I mean, two-thirds of us already are. Yeah, we already are.
Starting point is 00:05:44 You're our only hope. Well, you're gonna be our young one left. I've got two years, bro. I got two years. That's what you think. And it comes up on your fast. Yeah. You know, do you not realize the other day?
Starting point is 00:05:53 I was like, I've been doing YouTube for literally half my lifetime. I started YouTube, my first, was 17 years ago. So it's 17 years ago. So it has reached a point where I'm 34 now. That's crazy. So half your life.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Half my lifetime has been spent doing YouTube videos. Not only that, your entire adulthood. Yes. Yeah. Like every, well, I think all of us out so far for me, it's like our entire shape has been on YouTube. These are your heroes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:26 We have never, we're alive. We have never. ever claim to be heroes, right? And also, also, you know, not all heroes. Yeah, that's right. I flipped a couple of burgers. You did, you did. That was not a real job though, that was just abuse to simulate.
Starting point is 00:06:42 I didn't even get into that, I worked for the BBC. I was gonna say though, so the BBC arc, which is still kind of jokingly and lovingly referred to, was that also 17 years ago? Uh, no. So I did YouTube and I quit to do the BBC. And then this motherfucker rose up. And I'm like, this motherfucker thinks he can take my crown.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Ain't no way. I'm coming back, baby, no. And then he came back like Vlad Bailor. What he proved, what Joey proved was that you could do YouTube as a job. It just wasn't a thing 17 years ago. So that's what he proved to me. Huh.
Starting point is 00:07:19 So that's gone used to be that guy when I was like, you know, I was in school, he was like, you get one gone video every two years. And everyone would be like, oh my God. It was like Michael Reeves of today. Yeah, yeah. And now we're going back, maybe. And now he's,
Starting point is 00:07:31 now he's, now he's, now we, that's the same for C dog videos, right? Yeah, actually, yeah. I think out of us three, he uploads the most frequently. You're the most consistent.
Starting point is 00:07:43 On main channel, yeah. On main channels, yeah. Well, I mean, it is crazy when you put it that way, you're 34 and I mean, I hadn't started streaming at your age yet still. That was another three or four years away for me to even begin
Starting point is 00:07:55 that second or third or fifth life that I've led in the job world. But congratulations on 17 years. That's actually, that's insane. One more year and your channel can drink. Yeah, next year, the anime zone is literally legal adult. Yeah. Non-Gpan, actually.
Starting point is 00:08:11 9-Japan. 18 years old. That's a depressing to think about. Yeah, that's scary. That is scary to think about. But you have to admit, would you agree possibly, I'm setting you up now to agree with me, but have your 30s so far been better
Starting point is 00:08:26 or more enjoyable than your 20s? That's a wanted question. He threw you the ball. You can say no. I want to say yes, but I also want to say I've been more comfortable, but I do miss the energy I had as in my 20s. I feel like I got lucky in my 20s.
Starting point is 00:08:45 So normally what your 20s are for is like discovering yourself and then you do all the exciting shit when you're 30. And I feel like I've done so much exciting shit in like my late 20s, now that I've reached my 30s, I'm like, I kind of like feel like I've regressed a little bit to be like, I'm fine, just chilling now. But with chilling, that also invites a certain sort of like piece
Starting point is 00:09:10 that this is like the best year of your life because you just enjoy your time. Yeah, because you can chill. Yeah. But I know, I think the best years is subjective. I would say I've enjoyed my 30s as much as I've enjoyed my 20s. In addition, in a different way. Just in a different way.
Starting point is 00:09:28 I am dealing with different problems and I'm enjoying different things, but I'd say from my experience, I've enjoyed both. I think I was very blessed in my 20s and I've been very blessed my 30s as well. I mean, yeah, but and that's the other thing as well is that like, you know, you're comparing,
Starting point is 00:09:42 what, four years to 10 years? So it's like. Yes. Also you're living in, so I feel like it's harder to look, you know, when you look back on a period, it's a lot easier to kind of be like, block out all the, like the shitty things. You're like, oh, that was fun.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Yeah, now if we were to compare my 30s to my first 34, my first four years of my 30s, my first four years of my 20s, oh, abs are fucking looping. So we're tracking that this could be a better decade. Yeah, so far. Trending upwards, so far, it's a good start. 24, 24 was about the age I quit the BBC.
Starting point is 00:10:16 So now, now it was like when my 20s started getting good. Was there a period in your life or you were like, damn, this is kind of crazy? Like this is the best. Tuesday? I think like, no, I mean, like, I think from the best, I genuinely feel like each year has been better than the last. Oh, hell yeah. Like, I genuinely feel that way. Even when I was like, when I was 24, I was still in college, still in the math lab, and they're like, he's never going to graduate. He's so stupid. I mean, it must be like, if you could talk to like 16 year old Pete and be like,
Starting point is 00:10:48 one day, you're going to get to play video games. He must be like, shut up, I'm playing games. You were doing this and getting paid. I think young Pete would be like, yeah, I know. He just had a he had a cultic knowledge who's going to work out. Well, I think that actually has persisted throughout my entire life. But I remember when I was maybe six or seven, I used to wake up in the morning and play Nintendo before school. And my mom would be getting ready for, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:16 You could wake up early. I couldn't do that. Well, I mean, I don't think I slept. I just, I know I was away. But she would have, like, her role. She's singed and smoking a cigarette and she'd go, oh gosh, you know, you've played those games all the time It's never going to lead to anything and I was like that's not true mom someday I'm gonna be paid to play games And now I am
Starting point is 00:11:34 And so she had the last laugh Yeah, she often calls me and says like remember when I used to tease you about that? My mom's is the same thing Yeah, so my mom still teases me about it. Yeah Well my mom still calls it twotch and she doesn't know that it's Twitch and I've like I'm like my I'm playing twash I don't think she knows knows. Does your mom watch your streams? She tries and her, I'm not going to tell you her the number. Well, I will. It doesn't matter. But her name is, she's 74. And every time I call her, she'll be like, 74 ready for more. And I'm like, okay, mom, that's great. You're very youthful, very excited. Her name on Twitch is like, Gypsy Girl 27 or something. And so people, when the channel was really small, people would like, I think show a special interest in it because it was a girl in the chat. They'd be like, you know, what's up, gypsy girl? I'm like, please stop. I was like, that's my mom. Why couldn't she be called like, like, Gypsy Woman?
Starting point is 00:12:27 Because I think it's a famous song that she liked from a, and I was like, could you just change it to anything without the word girl in it? Because you're getting hit on. And you're in your 70s, but she's like, I like the attention. Oh, my God. She's great, though. She's the best. When we called her on my birthday in the van, I asked her.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Like a live on stream. Live on stream. I said, how many edibles have you had? And she went, four? And I was like, all right. I want to hang out with your mom. She's the best. So she was born in 1950, so I'd say that she's had,
Starting point is 00:13:03 she got to experience the whole gamut. Yeah, but take that mom. The onslaught. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Each year has been better. And this year already, already great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Oh yeah. So, so, wait, how old are you again? 41. 41. 41, all right, see, I look at you and I'm like, just around the corner for you, I have something to look forward to. Well, so we had a, we had a conversation about like,
Starting point is 00:13:28 the era that we grew up in, right? And, uh, I think now, 90s culture was coming back in, we've talked about this on trash taste, but I also think none of us have a proper experience of the 90s because we kind of, that was like, when we were like, you know, our prefrontal cortex. We were like fetuses back then. But you actually got to grow up in the 90s, right?
Starting point is 00:13:49 Yeah. What was it like? What do you miss the most? Tell us the stories, Grandad. Let me. Please. Did the Magan's really look that cool when you went in them? What would you say defines 90s culture for you?
Starting point is 00:14:01 I think that we were in an era of unbridled optimism as children. God, I'm, oh my God, I wish. God, I miss that. Holy shit. It's true. And I think that it was the perfect blend of there was a rise in middle class income where we could afford things that maybe my parents' generation. couldn't waste money on.
Starting point is 00:14:21 And we had toys, we had arcades. We had fast food was still novel and that you didn't eat it every day. It was like, we're going to Pizza Hut, which was like... It was like a reward thing. Yeah, we literally read books to get a free personal pan pizza that you'd take your homework and they would be like, good job, son.
Starting point is 00:14:41 It was a great, great time. And the thing that I will always be appreciative of as a gamer is I have a unique perspective. and I think I've even mentioned this on this channel. I've grown up from Atari and been present and active for every single innovation on video. You mean that's high history of videos. As it was new.
Starting point is 00:15:01 And as I could still appreciate it. And it was like, because when we just like an idea of the 90s of something that was, things that are long gone now, telephones, you know, taking messages,
Starting point is 00:15:11 long distance calls. You couldn't call your cousin across town. Yeah. Taking messages for like your family. The UK is pretty far. They might still have. When I was a kid, I had a black and white TV. Oh yeah, that's what great.
Starting point is 00:15:24 And still using a rotary phone. And then they had dial-up for the first, I remember having dial-up for like one year. Yeah, dial-up was a big game. Well, the internet was huge, but the whole notion of having four channels and Fox being the newest channel. It was like the edgy one with like the Simpsons and stuff. There was only four channels that you could even possibly watch.
Starting point is 00:15:44 But what I always miss was they had these newspapers, we would get because we saw daily delivered newspapers. And around this time of year, doing Black Friday or Thanksgiving or Christmas is ramping up, they would have these full color ads for like Best Buy or Fries or whatever your electronic story is. And it would have a little image of every single game that was coming out with that. And my mom would let me circle three games for Christmas. And then she would say, you know, I don't know if I can get you all three, but choose your best three.
Starting point is 00:16:17 that shit, I would take that to school. I would get like community notes on it. Like, where are you guys saying? I would, I would, I would, it would be the most agonizing decision of my life. Yeah. Yeah. And it was, it was just really fun. And imagine this as well, like, I could talk about this for seven hours.
Starting point is 00:16:34 But the other things, well, it's so fascinating to me because we wait for games so long now. And when I was young, the difference between Final Fantasy 6, which is three in America, Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy 7 is like three years, total, which is insane. You went from Chrono Trigger, which is like peak S&S graphics to Final Fantasy seven within a year and a half. Yeah, that's psychotic. That's insane. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:00 And Super Mario 64 was at that same time. And the problem that I miss having, and this is like, I don't know if you guys ever had this, you know, on Christmas when you would get like three or four games, and you're like, man, which one do I play first? Yeah. And you're to like, you're in your head, you're like, you're having like mental anguish. I haven't put enough time into this one. I don't want my mom to think I don't like this game.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Yeah, I gotta play it. Yeah, man. It's such a good problem that we'll never have now. Well, now we look at our Steam libraries and it says 12,000 games. We're just like overloaded with different experiences. Like right now I'm like, I wanna play the Elder Ring DLC, but I also gotta play metaphor as well
Starting point is 00:17:34 and all the other JRPGs that have come out this year. You could play 19 games in the time it would take to play metaphor. Yeah, I know. And I would still choose metaphor. But like it's an amazing, experience, you know. Last year, we got a lot of flack because we said that. Yeah, I was like, I was going to ask you, just building up to a, yeah, this is a good year for games.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Man, I fucked that up so bad last year. You didn't fuck it out. I got, I got the heat. We all got heat. Honestly, fuck you. Bring it back. I'm ready. I took my lumps. No, you know, it's tough. I think that when you look at gaming, it's kind of like the movie industry in a sense where now it's so many sequels. And there's, I think my main argument that I wanted to try to say last time was, I miss when there was new IPs and there was grand new adventures like a metaphor or or something like an Eldring. I think this year has actually been the first year in a while where it's like a lot of them are new IPs.
Starting point is 00:18:27 I mean, obviously there's a lot of returning IPs. But if you look at the game of year nominations, it's a lot of new IPs there. Yeah, it's great. I was so excited. And the Olden Ring D.L.C. as well, which. Yeah, it's going to be controversial. Oh, man. I called this like three months ago.
Starting point is 00:18:41 There's receipts somewhere on my Vod's. I guarantee it. I genuinely felt Ballotro was the game of the year. And I got a lot of pushback because it was an indie title and stuff like that. And I was so excited when it got nominated because I feel like the indie scene right now is the best we have in games. Oh, yeah. It's so good. Those are guys and girls who grew up playing games that we like that no one makes anymore because the development times are too long and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:19:06 So I think this is a great time to be a gamer, even if the year itself was kind of disappointing or last year was disappointing on like a headliner. It's never been better to be a video game player. Yeah, sure. Yeah, even when I get sent like fucking millions of game codes, I always do that series or I'll play a bunch. Yeah. You know, I'll play it, like, and a little of them are fucking awful.
Starting point is 00:19:27 But you'll be like, man, this game has no reviews on Steam and it's really fun. And you're like, this is sad because it probably won't ever take off, but it's like a phenomenal game. And you're like, what do you have to do now for it to take off? You know, this-
Starting point is 00:19:38 Just shout it out as much as you can, right? Yeah, but I mean, it's not, it's just simple. Or you could do that like real hipster thing where you just like keep it for yourself and be like, nah, this is like the one I like that. No one else talks about. No, I did that with my stream for nine months.
Starting point is 00:19:51 It was horrible. You know streamers would enjoy. Yeah, if enough YouTubers make more videos about it, it reaches critical mass and then it's like, it's a big game now. Yeah. I think there was a game that I, oh, so recently I was sponsored, which is a rarity on the channel,
Starting point is 00:20:07 but I was really excited about it. I got to play Dragon Quest 3. I got paid to do it. Yeah, that I was so jealous of it. Like the idea behind that is so crazy because Dragon Warrior, this is probably, everyone's like, this guy is so old. No, no, no. That game came out in like, like, 1988 or something like that.
Starting point is 00:20:23 I played it with my dad. You know, he was like, we would play on Nintendo's my very first RPG. And he'd be like, son, I got to go to the store and just don't drink my diet of Pepsi. And I'd be like, why? And then it was, it was whiskey, but that's okay. But he would be like, so he was like, just go ahead and farm slimes and make sure you get me enough gold so we can buy a copper goddamn sword. So he was gone for like four hours
Starting point is 00:20:45 I don't know It was supposed to be right back But I ended up getting all this gold By farming slimes And I bought like 12 wooden sticks And he came back and was like God damn it What did you waste the fucking going on?
Starting point is 00:20:55 And I was like five or something like that But to then be all these years later And have a chance to be That's so cool It's crazy like this is my very first game So I love gaming But the 90s were special They were truly truly unique
Starting point is 00:21:09 Did you go out a lot as a kid Are you kidding me? Like you know I have this, hell no, hell no. I have this image of just, at least, you know, listening to, you know, you're not that age yet. Like, Sydney's dad's, like, stories about how, you know, in America, you'd go out and, you know, ride your bicycle. And, you know, it's such a weird concept where parents would just trust kids to go out with no form of contact. That's what I did.
Starting point is 00:21:37 That's what I did. That's what I did. That's what I did. Yeah. Well, I live in Wales. There's just fields. I would get home from school and then, you know, I would be like, all right, I'm gonna see the kids in the park.
Starting point is 00:21:47 And then I would be gone until like nine. I would walk to like my friend's house. So did you have like, do you guys have like a curfew? Where you've been, Oh, dinner, dinner, by dinner. Or we will call the police. Well, no, they would just kind of be like, well, if he's not back by midnight,
Starting point is 00:22:02 maybe we'll figure something out. I think they were usually calling the truant officer because I would refuse to go to school, not because I was home late. So the, for me, yeah, is, as soon as I got home, it would be grab my GT Dino, my cool bike that I found. It was like free. And then I would pop curbs where you do like stupid tricks and go meet your friends,
Starting point is 00:22:22 go play baseball or whatever. And then we'd play pogs and slammers and like stupid, ridiculous, boring shit. And then go home and we'd also go to like caveman comics and buy a new issue of, you know, Teenage Mutage Ninja Turtles or X-Men or whatever. And all these, all these things were new still and exciting. And so. Yeah. When you were in school, was there a big like trading card?
Starting point is 00:22:42 phase if there was was there well yeah it started with baseball cards which for a lot of that was still relevant man it was everything was everything in the world black and white then as well it was it was right right right it looks like 12 angry man it was uh it was so crazy when we got purple and like green's and this dLCs fire but no it was we had baseball cards that we would collect initially and then there was these really lame things called Cabbage Patch or Wacky Packs. And Wacky Packs were my favorite. They were grotesque drawings of pop culture parodies.
Starting point is 00:23:21 So instead of having like a Batman card, it would be this disgusting drawing of a super name Fat Man and you would collect these and trade them. And then if you collected enough of them, you could have like one giant disgusting image that was, I mean, these, back then we just didn't, there was no internet. There was Mad Magazine was still like.
Starting point is 00:23:40 I mean, the internet was not very used. when you were a kid because you just didn't know how to use it and search for things that you actually knew. The internet only really became like a useful tool in the 2000s, I'd say. But it was speaking like the 90s though, right? Yeah, for like general people.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Yeah, forum culture was kind of cool. It was kind of fun at the time, but it is a terrible way. I miss forum culture. Do you remember whenever you're anything happening, your PC and it'd be in a forum and then it was just never helpful, but you'd always click on the forum
Starting point is 00:24:06 just in case it helped you fix your PC issue. And it never fucking did, and the moderator was like, let me know if there's any more problems. And there was always like more problems. Well, or it was, or it was like the forum would start off with the exact problem you had, but there would no reply. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:20 That's the worst. And, but you would go on these, these trails of like finding any clue that was remotely successful. And finally, on the deepest depths of a forum, some guy'd be like, yeah, I kind of solved it. Here's what, I just had to restart and hold down X. And you're like, oh, thank. And then we never upvoted it.
Starting point is 00:24:36 We never said like, thanks that helped me. Just move on. Yeah, of course. Yeah, it was a crazy time. No, they don't. That it was cool, I think, but like I said, even though as great as the 90s were, I think that I'm still enjoying life more now
Starting point is 00:24:49 than I ever did back then, but it was- Well, kids are probably hearing, oh, we were unbridely optimistic and they're like, what's- How do you be a generation that was optimistic? Well, that was until we were like in middle school and I think most kids are optimistic until then anyway. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Really? Talking to like, talking to some kids, everyone like this, because of the internet, because of like the whole, I guess, like, a lot of Duma culture has preserved, penetrated. Penetrated. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Towards like the modern generation. And I don't know, it seems like because of how cynical the internet is right now, it seems like we were around at the time when the internet was this like bright new, exciting thing. And now I talk to, you know, some kids of the young generation.
Starting point is 00:25:39 And they are still optimistic. But it's cool to be negative. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Self-deprecating humor was a rarity when I, it's my calling card, for God's sakes. Yeah. I made a career off this in every single facet that I could. But when it was original back then,
Starting point is 00:25:55 it played off very well, but then shows like the office or awkward humor or like, now every kind of comedy is centered around negativity or self, you know. That's been the British bread and butter for you. Yeah, actually, what am I talking about? You guys had that since. What the fuck this? It's like, that's all our thing.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Don't try to take our culture. Yeah, that is definitely a cultural. Take our tea. They've been doing this as the dark age. It's like, my lord, you're cringe. British is still in the dark age. It's just so you know, we never left the dark age. But it's, it's, I do yearn for a more simple time where,
Starting point is 00:26:31 and I think for me that's why I like streaming so much to bring it full circle is that. It's still, my approach to it is a game night with friends where, presumably we're sharing games and having a laugh. And I've traded the three or four people who were always at my house to an audience who is there digitally. But yeah, it was a crazy time. So much innovation in such a short period of time. Is there any games you've enjoyed a lot this year? Other than like, well, Ballotro, of course, was like, I think just simply amazing.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Dragon Quest 3, my God, it was incredible. But I've realized that as much as I love gaming and I'm a historical. And I'm a historian of video games. I love it. Genuinely, I don't play games anymore the way I used to because of streaming. It doesn't... It doesn't...
Starting point is 00:27:18 It doesn't allow me the room to let the games breathe all the time to, you know, viewer retention and caring about an experience. Because we'll always talk. When we play the same games, I'll be like, yeah, I'll be it in 12. He's like, really? I'd be it in 24. Yeah. Well, it's for me...
Starting point is 00:27:34 You, you like, you know, I feel like you make a show or I'm like, yeah, yeah, fuck off, Mario. Let's go. Fuck it. Yeah. It's like speed run. Yeah. I don't even tend to. In my head, I'm just like, I literally can't just sit there and wait.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Like, I don't know. I just subway surface on the side. I don't know. Like, I'm like a lot of- Game to start gaming. Well, I understand what he's saying. I mean, your purpose in your play-through. I think it started when you had brain rot and played call duty for 72 hours a day.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Oh, my God. Yeah. But like, for me, my fondest memories of gaming are in the basement with my buddies and one of us is on the PC playing, whatever. And then I'm on. TV, playing Resident Evil and GameCube. And I'm not really trying to go at any particular pace, but we're having discussions and talking about girls we liked or jobs we hate.
Starting point is 00:28:20 And the gaming is kind of a byproduct of that. And then as we get towards the end of that, I'm like, oh, man, I should lock in and like 100% this. Yeah. And that is not really a conducive way to stream, I think. No, that is. Wait, so wait. All your friends come to your house to game?
Starting point is 00:28:36 Always. Oh, you were that kid. Oh, yeah. Dude, because my parents are too strict. And my best friend, his parents, she did. I mean, my mom, I think, had already been like, yeah, they were like, it's free reign. So whenever I'd go to his, it was like,
Starting point is 00:28:51 they wouldn't care if we set up all night, like 24 hours playing video games. My mom would murder me if she knew I was doing that. My mom, I think, you know, yeah, no way. She was, so we had for my entire senior year, Halo Combat Evolved had just released six months prior, or about that time. And we had every Friday for the entire year,
Starting point is 00:29:09 Halo nights at my place. It started at 7 or 8 p.m. Men just want one thing that's disgusting. 24 guys. And you say your life is better now? Actually that might have been. That sounds like me. Well actually, too bad.
Starting point is 00:29:23 When I went to America, Lottweig and the Yard Boys, they do like, they call it penis Star League. They have a full land setup of Halo 3 and Cod 2. Oh my God. They just do land nights. I was a good land party, man.
Starting point is 00:29:36 It's a, you're right though. The land party vibe. We'd bring three guys who'd have to bring TVs, like, you know, the big 27-inch. Yeah, we would have four Xboxes, three-linked cables. And then the only rule when you came over to my place, what, we didn't drink it this time. God, that would have been madness. But we did drink a lot of colas. So you had to bring either two 12-packs or one-24 pack. And if there's 18-20 guy, what's a 12-pack? A 12 cans. Like 10? 12 cans of cola? You'd to bring two 12 packs. Two 12 packs. One-24 pack. And we, like any Midwesterner, we had,
Starting point is 00:30:09 a spare fridge in our garage. How many did you... It's like full strength Coke, right? This is like Mountain York game fuel. This is like full strength Coke. This was R.C. Cola. This was Jolt Cola, which had three times the cafe. Wait, wait, wait, wait. So, and how many
Starting point is 00:30:24 colas would you drink a night? So we would often at the end of the night, which would go into my mom woke up for work for, because she worked on Saturdays, bless her heart, Jesus. I should send her all my money. So she would wake up and say, boys, it's time to go home. We would have well over two or 300 cans of cola. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:30:39 How are you alive? Well, if there's, okay, calculate it, right? Because the fridge, if you, everyone had to bring two 12 packs or one 24 pack. And there's eight. This is how he loved math. Well, I don't know the answer. It's like, I don't know what the math is, but I know I can drink a 24 pack. Easily.
Starting point is 00:30:55 And so much fun, man, because one map of blood gulch or, or it would take four or five hours because there was no timers on. Yeah, first time I had a monster when I was 12 and it felt like I had injected like pure heroin to my friends. You had a monster at 12? Yeah, because it was like, it was like a, you know, around that time was when
Starting point is 00:31:16 it was the whole like monster and redible marketing like really ramped up and it's kind of like cool to drink a monster because the cans neon green. Yeah, yeah, you know, and then it tasted kinda good because it was super sugary.
Starting point is 00:31:25 I was a bitch. I saw like the older kids in my school like drinking monsters and I was like, that looks yummy but I'm too scared to try it. It was like a pound a can and it tasted good. It's like if my mom finds out I drank that
Starting point is 00:31:36 should kill me. Yeah, I'm almost not happy when she found. Yeah. I think I only discovered energy drinks when I was in university. Yeah, same. I actually don't think I had any in school. I thought it's more of a cool thing.
Starting point is 00:31:46 And I got kind of too much into it and then I had to like down. You sound like you did heroin. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, the energy drinks are like horribly addictive. You speak to it. It's liquid heroin, basically. Luckily I was, you know, I was mainly like
Starting point is 00:31:57 in college where I started drinking them a bit too much. You know, I'd have like one a day. Yeah, well, I mean, we were all there. Yeah, you know, and I have some friends that would chuck like full red balls a day and you're like, are you, you know, and it's like really hard for them to quit. Yeah, I stopped doing it.
Starting point is 00:32:10 It is like having like like a heroin. You said, we'd ever made it and he stopped and he was, he was having horrific migraines and shaking. Yeah, yeah, I got, go ahead. No, I was gonna say I stopped, I stopped drinking energy drinks after my friend almost died of a heart of time. Did that also that also happen too?
Starting point is 00:32:24 Yeah, and I was like, all right, never touching that again. Well, I gave him up for quite a while, but at a school, Nomi Kai, when I was a teacher, we had a Christmas, Bonin Kye, whatever, like, into your party. Yeah. And some people won like a Nintendo Switch, Some people won like Yakiniku
Starting point is 00:32:39 Meets that gets delivered. I won 36 cans of monster. And I was like, yeah, fire these up again. And I had, Yuki had to go out to like visit her family for like a week on a trip. So I was at home alone
Starting point is 00:32:52 and I played this game called graveyard keeper. It's a great game. But I don't think I slept for six days and I was just kind of like, every time I'd just be like, let's just have one more row. Oh my God. Getting off of that only ended
Starting point is 00:33:04 because I ran out of the 36. cans. Yeah. Mom, what a, fucking movie. It could have been made in those 36 cans. The movie.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Man. The ups and downs. But those Halo Knights were peak. And even, I remember there was once where I got food poisoning because my mom made
Starting point is 00:33:23 like tortellini from that was expired for like three years. And we only had the one bathroom that we could use upstairs. And I was like, I'd already invited everyone over. There was like 20 guys there.
Starting point is 00:33:33 They were already playing. I was like, I got to go to the bathroom. I feel really sick. I was like peaking. And, Instead of my friends like helping me, they were like, hurry the fuck up in there,
Starting point is 00:33:41 I gotta pee! And then they ended up playing the games all night. And not one person picked me up and was like, you good man, do you need some medicine? They were like, hey, we gotta go, do we lock the door on the way out? I was like, this ridiculous. Friends for life.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Those are your bros you meet on Halo though, so. Yeah. Sounds like the most Halo experience of all time. You know, I got in Halo, but made me with a code though. Yeah? Yeah. I played, mainly a Gears of War, I think.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Yeah, that was multiple, it was fucked. That one had massive host advantage. Yeah, that was really bad, yeah. It was hard. They literally gave, I don't know why, what was the reason behind this? They would give the host extra health. No, no, no, what?
Starting point is 00:34:23 Yes, look, Gears of War, to get a lot, Gears of War host advantage. The host just had extra flat health. Really? I always thought it was the ping advantage. It's shots. Damage. Yeah. Basically the host is, God,
Starting point is 00:34:37 His shots are stronger, can seemingly take more damage, can down you quicker with Lancer and has Uber range on his guns. Well, I- I- I- I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-W-I-W-T I always thought it was because of the ping advantage. No, no, no. When I was the host, you know, you always have like a little bit of a reaction that is always gonna be fast than literally anyone else.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Yeah, I mean, there was obviously that, but I'm pretty sure the stats were actually like buffed. Right. Because that's what I always thought, but like, yeah, yeah, gears of war. was obviously really fun as well. Did your house have a massive basement? It did.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Does every Midwestern house have a massive basement? Because of like tornadoes and stuff, right? I mean, that's probably the reason. That's the actual reason. It's not like, you know, I think, and you know, back in the day, the house we lived at, so I've always lived in the basement. Sounds so.
Starting point is 00:35:32 But every house we've ever had. Literally a mom's basement. Was my mom's basement. And we had a fire, like, in one of our houses once where it was the first time I committed fraud, where they, uh, they told me you can write down the price of what you bought everything for that was damaged. I was like, well, this is like a cheat code because all my stuff was kind of old. But when I bought it, they were like, yeah. And I was like, Sony PlayStation 299, you know, 27 inch TV. And so we got this great check.
Starting point is 00:36:00 I guess it's not fraud if that's what they told me to do. And statutes of limitations. But we move to. Yeah, that's next point. a host advantage. So we moved to another basement with all new tech. And I think that not only does every house have it, I went back there when I,
Starting point is 00:36:20 like three years ago when I visited back home, the house was like $180,000 to $220,000 for sale. It must have been like $35,000 when my mom moved in there or something just super affordable. It does suck talking to your parents. They're like, yeah, I bought it when it was a tenth of the price. I bought it for eight grapes and a handshake.
Starting point is 00:36:40 It was like, I was like, wow, and this is not even that great of a house. And it's not in a great part of town, but I was thinking that's insane. It's so expensive. Because every time I go to Wisconsin, like every time, every time I visit like a friend or someone I know that,
Starting point is 00:36:57 everyone just has like the most massive fucking basement of all time that is like completely decked out. It is like my dream, all right? It is the, Man Cave. I don't know what? Is it a man, is, do we have like the manly urge to just build the perfect basement? Of course. Of course. Of course. You know what blows my mind about American basements? This is like, those memes, the European mind can't comprehend. No, no. They're like the full fridge and freezer, like, separate. Yeah. A full fridge. Yeah. And then you have the basement. And then like the,
Starting point is 00:37:26 the perfect size freezer for a body. But like, how many freeze goods do you have? Like, that's crazy. And some. In America? Yes. I mean, there's a false. But it's like, you, it's so much. It's great. So many basements I'd know, just like they have their own bar as well. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Well, you could have had like a big living room, but your dad was like, nah, mate, gonna have a bar. Yeah, my dad was like, nah, living rooms upstairs. This is my space. Like, Jerry's living room is like, like a foot. It's tiny, yeah. It's like a seat in a, and a coffee table. And then you go downstairs and it's like an actual bar area
Starting point is 00:38:02 could easily be a living room. This is this giant bar. And then my dad's like a, has this giant record set up with the TV so that my mom can play wee bowling during Christmas. That's great though. That's our best. All right, guys, easily better.
Starting point is 00:38:15 What's your dream basement? You own a house. Dream man. What are you putting in your dream basement? All right. Bar? Of course, bar. Standard. Pool table?
Starting point is 00:38:26 I want a poker table at mine. I want a poker table there. Yeah, like just like an area that like, obviously I want like the couch and the TV so like there's like a game set up. Yeah. I want like, you know what I think, I want like every like game console just like laid out there. You know, like the fucking cabinet where you're like,
Starting point is 00:38:43 which what console do you wanna play today? Just go through your generation of games. Then you gotta set up some elaborate switcher. Otherwise you gotta get in there. Yeah. I didn't play in the control. I'll pay someone to do that. Oh, okay, okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:38:54 I'm actually anti bar at the house. Anti bar at the house. Yeah, I don't ever, I like to drink obviously, right? Like I love the Ezekiah culture, but I do not enjoy drinking at, at homes. Really? The vibe's all off for me.
Starting point is 00:39:09 And I miss the kind of background chatter and the clinking of dishes and silverware. And I feel like it's a very conducive way to be lively. But at a house, I never feel comfortable. And I think it's because I didn't drink until I was like 27, 28 years old for the first time. So yeah, it might have been a delay on that. So I missed house parties and stuff.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Are you saying that we might have been drinking for longer than you? Yeah. That worries me. I've been catching up though with consumption amounts. In Wisconsin, going downstairs and having your dad drink is just, I think everyone's core memory there, actually. Yeah. Wow, see, that's so fascinating.
Starting point is 00:39:48 They pour, like, bourbon or something cool. And they say, it's just like, you go downstairs. The parents watching the game, basically. Yeah, your parents just spawned down there. I got a beer in their hands. Australia is like the UK, though. I think most parents drink. Yeah, well, we also have a balcony as well
Starting point is 00:40:04 that you can like go drink out. Yeah, yeah, well like a backyard. I don't think his dad was drinking Goon of Fortune. No, my dad had money, so. But some Australian kids. Only broke college kids would do that. We did. Yeah, yeah, I guess I missed out.
Starting point is 00:40:20 So, but yeah, the bar, the poker table, the pool table, TV. Would you ever have a projector in there? Or just like a really big. Projectors are so shit, bro. You don't like projectors? I'm a firm projector hater. I just think they often look like shit.
Starting point is 00:40:32 They never, they never look as good as a screen. Yeah, I think like, Like back then, it made sense to have a projector, you know, before like the big, big, big TVs you could buy now. But now you can get TVs the same size as a project. And they're like four quid for some reason. Yeah, and they're like, you can buy a 70 inch TV for like 50 bucks. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:40:50 I'm exaggerating, but like they're so cheap. They are not exaggerating. I worked at Circuit City, which is a electronic store in America when I was in college and HD TVs had just come out. Like just come out. Oh, wow, they're expensive. Wow. First of all, I had never seen something so beautiful in my time.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Like, and they always had like the same ads running of like, uh, the French open. So you see like the clay all like fucking fish. Yeah. Well, back then it was just like four minutes of the same reused footage. And I would just sit there and I would upsell it to everybody. And this was when plasma TV still had like severe burn in. Yeah. So they would be, they would tell you, you know, this can only last for like eight months to two years if you're lucky or whatever.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Those, some of those TVs were over eight or nine thousand dollars. And they weren't even that. This monitor is bigger than some of those TVs back then. Right, right. And we would still have to sell the Sony Trinitron mega-Bobagus that were at least 850 pounds. Like you cannot lift them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:48 And I think that now when you go to McDonald's, like, do you want a free LCD screen with that? And you're like, sure, right? Yeah, the happy meal is just a 16-year-old. You know, because the TVs now, they're like loaded with ads and they collect your data and stuff like that. and that's kind of like the trade-off. But you know what?
Starting point is 00:42:06 I'm like, sure. The TV's fucking cheap as fuck. Like a 55 inch, like 4K TV, like a nice one, it's like 500, 800 bucks. It's crazy, yeah. Do you think TVs are being over-engineered now? No, no, no, they're shit. They're shit.
Starting point is 00:42:24 I bought a new TV. Like the worst parts of a PC in a display. Yeah, yeah. Okay, why? They're so slow. I don't know if this is default on every TV, but I've like, on every modern TV that I've had so far. The default setting is to have this dog shit auto-smoving
Starting point is 00:42:39 on everything. And I don't know why that's like the auto setting, right? Have you seen the subredits? There's like subredits dedicated to this to like calibrating your TV perfectly. And they all get in arguments about how to calibrate your TV perfectly. It's so intense. Yeah, and then I was, I like, I had a new,
Starting point is 00:42:58 we had a new TV and I didn't know this was a setting because this is the first time I've seen this setting. But this TV had a default setting to like auto adjust the volume. So it's like at a constant level, right? Like a compressor. Like a compressor. So I was watching, I was watching, I was watching this anime, I was watching like solo leveling.
Starting point is 00:43:17 This was like a while ago. And I was like, why are the hype scenes so dog shit? They've really fucked up on their like audio mixing in this. Because when it like, when like the music would go loud, suddenly you like, something hype would happen and then like the music would be like, ooh. And I, I, I, I, like, I was, I'm like, I'm not hyper at all.
Starting point is 00:43:35 And then I realized it was the fucking TV, like, artificially compressing the fucking volume. And I was just like, this is, this is dog shit. Why is this a feature in the TV? Have you seen some streaming services now offer dialogue boost to films and TV shows? No. Because if you not noticed that like,
Starting point is 00:43:52 this is a big complaint in past couple of years, is that when you watch a movie at home, especially a movie that was in theaters, it's mixed for the theater where the music is quite loud and the dialogue is a lot quieter. So when you go, when you're watching on your TV, Like this fucking, it's, the volume mixing is, like it's so fucking loud
Starting point is 00:44:08 and you can't hear anyone's saying, so you boost it and then the moment there's an explosion, you're like, fuck, and so they, they, they've always been that way though. That's been that way since the dawn of television. Oh yeah, maybe it's just TV speakers. It's always been the movie industry. They, you're like, I can't hear a damn thing
Starting point is 00:44:22 and then they're like, to roll on, you're gonna. And then bullets and gunshots. Oh my God. Yeah, when you have to like, you have to constantly, like, if it's an action movie, you're like down, the shooting, turn it down. All right, the shooting's over.
Starting point is 00:44:34 they're talking and put the volume back up. You're like, oh my God. So maybe they have it, they have it almost right, but they did it the wrong way. So yeah. But I guess if you're compressing it, the audio in general, the dialogue is still gonna be even quieter if you're gonna.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's, I don't know. It's, it didn't address the problem at all. Well, yeah, but so you guys, when you, how old, you guys bought HDTVs your whole life then, pretty much. No, no, no, no, okay, so you did have to. We had a Trinatron.
Starting point is 00:45:04 growing up. Okay. I kind of like had the very fast track 360 to 720 with the Scott. And give you the thing where you do plug, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you're the Xbox and you could plug in the cables directly, but then they had that thing that like chunky ass,
Starting point is 00:45:17 horrible thing that wouldn't go in smoothly into the TV. Yeah, they're like the really stabby thing. Have been, uh, S-C-A-R-T, uh, cable. This thing was diabolical. I remember this. Yeah. These, these things. I hate, this thing would never,
Starting point is 00:45:33 And it would never go in your TV smoothly. My dad has like five cardboard. And then this was like, I think. PC cables, yeah. Yeah, I think it was it, I think. And then 480. Yeah, and then the first HD was 720. Yeah. Because I remember a bunch of DVDs
Starting point is 00:45:49 that you used to buy back then were only 720 people. They'd be like HD. Yeah. We used to buy DVDs. And then it very quickly became 1080P. Quite fast, I think. It felt like it was for me at least. I don't know if it actually was.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Maybe you can tell me because you were probably there. It's a good shrews. when we got 1080. No, I think it was, yeah, I mean, it felt like a natural progression because the jump was so, so seismic that 180 to 720, whatever, it was fine. But yeah, it's, uh, those are, those are days gone by.
Starting point is 00:46:16 I mean, it feels seismic. I don't know if this is a hot take, but I'm like, 1080 versus 4K, I'm like, I notice it, but definitely not that much. I mean, 1080 to 720 was a very big leap. Like when you watch a 720 thing, you're like, it's kind of blurry. Yeah, but 1080s okay.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Yeah, 1080. 4K is much better. No, no, 4K definitely looks better, but definitely like the jump is just like, okay, if I watch something in 1080 versus 4K, I'm not gonna, my eyes aren't gonna be like, holy shit, this is like, back to the stone ages, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:46:49 But will you watch something in 360P and you're like, okay, now there is like a big, I'm blind apparently. I am actually watching Minecraft right now. Yeah, classic YouTube. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I wonder how we, I mean, it's weird to go back and think about it,
Starting point is 00:47:02 but at the time a 27-inch TV was enormous. You know, that was a massive television. Yeah. And I was, I found this old photo of me playing games with my friend, and I, I posted it on Twitter. And we're still sitting cross-legged with like the cords, you know, the corded controllers. And I, I, those were simpler times.
Starting point is 00:47:23 But hey, man, now I can, like you said, we can download a Steam game in six seconds and never play it again. Pay full price, but be like, oh, someday I'll get to that. It's going to be safe. It's a different area for a time. Yeah. Like you mentioned earlier, I think gaming is at an amazing point where these indie developers are making some of the coolest and most interesting experiences that we never would have gotten.
Starting point is 00:47:43 You know, you would never get some of these games made now. No, certainly not. You'd never get a, bring it up, fear and hunger. Some of the games of the years for you then. Yeah, that's what you. You kind of asked me that earlier. And I think it's shameful to say because I haven't, I can't really enjoy games to same anymore. And I'm not complaining about my job. It's just a different feeling. What games
Starting point is 00:48:06 have you played this year? I think I've, I calculated. I did 70 games this year. So, like, on stream. And I think. Do you play games offstream still? Not really. Just shamefully Diablo 2, which I still have been playing since the year 2000. But, uh, he still hasn't gone on a single drop. I'm working on it. I'm working on a thing called a Holy Grail, which is finding every item in the game. Oh my God. 20 years later, I'm not even close. But I think I got 76% done. But the thing about this year in gaming, I think my perception of gaming is shifted as a streamer.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Now my favorite experiences have been things like when I replayed Phoenix Wright or these games that have a lot of kind of community. Like I'm having fun playing it with the viewers. Yeah. As opposed to like, that is the best game I've played this year. Like, Eldering DLC was unquestionably a fantastic experience. Ballotrow is such a good. great.
Starting point is 00:49:02 Gameplay loop. But Dragon Quest 3 probably is, I nearly committed channel playing that through. But it was so much fun. How long was that? Well, I did three streams of 11 hours each. And so. That's not too bad. Well, I'm getting up there.
Starting point is 00:49:20 It's, uh, I think it took me about 45 hours of gameplay time. It wasn't as bad as Baldos Gait. That was probably the worst experience. And it was fun, but we didn't even finish. Yeah. Views are very bad. at watching long games, mainly because no one viewer can watch the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:49:36 Yeah, yeah. So you're gonna miss out, and then you already are losing like a portion of people that see the RPG layout and I'm like, ew, I'm good. So you're already like, it's an uphill battle and then you gotta just kind of, you know, if you stream it too often, then people are like, why is you still playing this game?
Starting point is 00:49:53 I don't wanna, it's like watching Ludwig play League of Legends. It's like, I don't wanna fucking watch this guy play. Yeah, yeah. Miserable. And it's tough because I think what I found has worked for me because I still love all those games. Yeah. And it's not even a viewer fault.
Starting point is 00:50:06 It's just, it makes total sense. Like, you don't know where they're at the story. It's like a viewer experience. You cannot provide the same like one or two hour experience some games can provide over 33 hour periods. Yeah. You know. So I do like two days of the game that I'm really excited about it.
Starting point is 00:50:20 And I say, hey, there it is. If you guys thought that was really awesome, you can go ahead and finish it on your own. And I got, I got a great experience out of it. And, but we're going to have to move on just because, you know, You find yourself finishing less games? Oh, yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:50:35 And as a completionist, that is an absolutely horrible, horrible feeling. How far did you get in metaphor? This is so shameful. It was like, I basically finished the tutorial and then some. And you're talking to the guy who, like, loves persona. Started with number one back on the PlayStation, played through all five. And I really want to play that game, but it's planet talk. You know, it's all it is.
Starting point is 00:50:59 You go and you talk endlessly to people. They told me it's a visual novel disguise as an RPG. That's all the personas is three. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's all the personas. Yeah. I mean, like, yeah, I have the opposite from where I can't, I can't, I can't beat it,
Starting point is 00:51:12 but that just automatically rules out, like these amazing games, like metaphor. Oh, no, do you. In many kinds of cut scenes in metaphor, like, I think you'll actually wanna kill. Because you can't skip these either. Honestly, in persona five, I was getting driven to the brink on those.
Starting point is 00:51:27 Yeah, and you only played it for now. Yeah, like an hour. And I was like, this is fucked up. I've touched the control three times. And one of them I got lost in Shibuya. And I was like, this is evil. Yeah. This is evil because this is like,
Starting point is 00:51:38 Shibia was easier to navigate in real life than a persona. That's great. What a great game. Godin. That's a game of the year. Yeah, I don't care when it came out. Oh my God. No, but those games are so great though.
Starting point is 00:51:49 And, yeah, it's tough games. You can't stream those. No. I mean, I try to do a thing that's like 70-30, right? I try to do 70% stuff where I'd really keep in the viewer experience. And then 30% of him, I'm like, you know, I gotta do this for me.
Starting point is 00:52:04 And I want to share. This is one for me. Well, it's like, I have so many games. One for you, one for me. Six for them, one for me. And I'm in a very, very obviously lucky situation where I get to also go on adventures with him and I got to go see
Starting point is 00:52:17 you at the, uh, the parko building. And I get to kind of spice things up to remind the viewer like, hey, you know, we're still doing other fun stuff. We do stuff. We guys, guys. I got a site. Yeah. And then we're going back to Monkey Island.
Starting point is 00:52:30 And, you know, so it's, it's that kind of ratio. But I've loved it. I've never been happier. This has been, I've done more stuff in the past year in my life than collectively, I think, 40 years cumulative. It's crazy. Has, since you've been on last year, has, how's life in Japan? Change much?
Starting point is 00:52:48 Anything different? No, you notice any changes? Year 14? Year 14. Yeah. Is there any difference between year 13 or 12 or is it pretty much same old, same old? I'm very glad I got out of. of the workforce, for sure.
Starting point is 00:53:00 And I'm very thankful. So usually in the morning, I try to go and grab like a coffee or something. Which, by the way, tell me if this guy did me a real dirty thing. I went to a, because we only have like Starbucks near my house. So if you don't like Starbucks, that's fine. It's trash coffee, whatever. But I went there and I'm a regular, I go there almost every morning. So just to get some coffee, drink waters, hang out, just detox, whatever.
Starting point is 00:53:23 And this viewer, he noticed me. And he was like, oh, it's Premiere, Premier 2. And I was like, what's up, man? He didn't know my name. I had to make that part up. But he was like, I know you, I know you. And he was like, you come to this coffee shop hop. And I was like, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:34 And I was like, I'm just going to grab a coffee. He's like, okay, me too. I want to get a coffee. And I actually had a coupon that's like the one more coffee that you get like, it's like $1.50 or something. And the staff, I don't know what it is. At this particular Starbucks, every single guy or girl is like a model. They're the most insanely attractive.
Starting point is 00:53:51 I think it's because it's a university town. Yeah, yeah. And they're all just like young baristas and the guys like cleaning the glass and And the girl's like, conichua, hey Peter, you're back. I was like, yeah, I'm a regular. And I was like, I'm a regular. And I was like, I still got it.
Starting point is 00:54:04 And I was like, one more coffee, please. She's like, can I have the receipt? And I was like, yeah, here you go. And then she was like, that's a McDonald's receipt. And I was like, okay, let me take that back. And then she was like, wow, is this all for you? And I was like, yeah, I was like, yeah. And then I was like, nah, I mean, we went together, right, man?
Starting point is 00:54:23 Because I needed a bail out here. This is a brocode. Yeah, okay. I got a couple. of like double bacon cheese burgers. Oh, so it's like a coupon if you bought a McDonald's. No, it was my receipt for McDonald's. And she was just looking at my order
Starting point is 00:54:33 and she was like, that's all for one person. And I was like, nah, no, we split that. And he was, and the guy went, he was like, I didn't go. Oh, he broke the brocode. That could have been an instant bonding moment. I would have been like, you're a guest on the channel. You're my VIP mod, this man.
Starting point is 00:54:49 And he sold me out and I was like, I was really, and then I had to say the thing. I was like, hona cucka suita, yeah. Like I was so hungry. Is this awful? She was like teasing because I go in there and I order it. It keeps getting worse and worse, right?
Starting point is 00:55:04 So like normally I go in there and I always just get ice coffee. Right. That's it. And they were saying like, oh, we have these new, you know, merry, berry Christmas lontes. And I was like, no, I'm on a diet. So I'm just getting, I've been on a diet for 12 years. But I was like, no, I just want the zero calorie coffee. And then she was like, diet deska.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Oh. I know. They was so... That's brutal. And I was like... Why can she strays like that? I don't know. And I was like, one more coffee, please.
Starting point is 00:55:34 She's not letting you forget it. No, she was... That was pretty cold-blooded. And the other thing that's tough there is there's another girl who works there that... They have like 40 staff because it's a college town, right? So they're always... And she always is like, do you not remember me?
Starting point is 00:55:52 And I'm like, I do. I don't. She's like, you taught me my senior... your year the whole time. And I was like, oh, I forgot. Yeah. But you know, that was during COVID. You had the mask. She's like, you use that excuse every time. I was like, I know. Yeah. I'll have three quarter pounders and six bags. But so it was I got called out by the guy. I got totally sold out. But I forgot the original point. It was something about coffee. Or, oh, I remember now. I got it. So yeah, I go for the point of that is I often go to these coffee shops.
Starting point is 00:56:24 and Japan is so hard. And this is why it hasn't changed and what I'm thankful about. The bus is packed. People are on a rush to go to work. The commute is just horrific. And I'm very, very eternally thankful that I have an opportunity to do what I do
Starting point is 00:56:42 and like, because that shit is the most soul-crushing experience in Japan. Yeah. It's surviving the work culture. Definitely. Yeah. So for me, I don't think that's changed, but I will be applying for,
Starting point is 00:56:54 Japanese citizenship this year. Oh, nice. Promptly probably be declined when they were like, what's your end level? And I'm like, six? They're like, it starts at five. So I'm like, uh, do I have to know like kanji? And they'd be like, okay. So, but I'm looking forward to
Starting point is 00:57:10 naturalizing as a citizen here. I think it's long enough. Yeah. Nice. I mean, 14 years. Yeah. Permanent residency is what I have now. And if you don't know what that is, it means I don't have to have a work visa to do what I do. It's a, I, and it's lifetime. But I feel like I do want to get involved in like local elections or where the communities are at
Starting point is 00:57:30 and just having a bit more agency. I had a taxi driver today. He was, he loved politics. He kept talking to me about it. And he kept asking me, you know, I love history. I love Churchill. Yeah. As I mentioned, I was British.
Starting point is 00:57:46 And I was like, oh, yeah. He's like, yeah, he's a really strong leader. Strong leader, this, man. I was like, yeah, I guess so. He's like, you know, now they don't have strong leaders. I was like, oh, okay. He's like, you know, Japan, full of weaklings. And I was like, oh, are you going to fix?
Starting point is 00:57:59 He's like, nah. I was like, are they nice guys? They're like, yeah, the nice guys, but weak, weak. And then maybe we can get Pete. Sort of all out. Yeah, I'm a real, you know, I have a lot of strong policies. Strong policies. Work now starts at 11.
Starting point is 00:58:13 Well, that was that one politician in Japan who was like, your womb should be removed. Yeah, that would be. Yeah. Did you see that? Yeah, that was, that was. No. Like an onion article.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Wombs to be removed. And then he, I think his argument was kind of around the idea of like we're not having enough babies. So we'll remove wounds. Uterus removal. You apologize for the way. What the fuck did I come back to?
Starting point is 00:58:40 Yeah, this Jammary for addition that was like, you should remove the uterus after 30. Jesus Christ. Hey, it made headlines. So his party might have more votes. Maybe we should remove the penis at 30 if you didn't successfully.
Starting point is 00:58:52 We should start with him. Woman would not be allowed to go to universities from 18 and a law would not allow single woman over 25 to ever get married. Oh my God. What the fuck? In a speech in a never, yeah, of course it's. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:59:08 In all places it's nothing else going on. They're like, let's make some fucking radical policies. This is not, sadly, this is not a terribly uncommon kind of, even in joking culture. Like they, when I first started teaching, the common joke would be, because you know, you're working with a bunch of people were in their mid-20s or so, they'd be like, oh, so-and-so is a Christmas cake.
Starting point is 00:59:28 And you're like, what's that? And she'd be sitting like right next to me. They'd be like, well, after they're 25 on the 25th, they're useless. And I'm like, and I was like, that's absurd. Yeah, that's like a, it's a Japanese joke. They would just say that in front of them? In front of them. And I was like, you don't have to take that.
Starting point is 00:59:44 And I was like, by the way, I'm a Christmas cake. He's like, no, no, men are okay. I was like, man, fuck this place. So like, that kind of mentality is in direct. connection with like the absurdity that some of the old-fashioned. It's sad that that's not the first time I've heard that. See? It's crazy. Yeah, yeah. I mean it's- It sounds like a fucking Alex Jones bit.
Starting point is 01:00:05 It's like a Christmas cake. They're useless if you're 25. It's like, it's like, I don't know. Sometimes Asian culture, especially with Asian culture, you kind of, I kind of realize this, but they're way too comfortable making jokes or like having sayings that are just like putting- fucked up. Yeah, yeah, just putting a person down. Well, like a lesser form of that is you're, as soon as you turn 25, you're considered A-A-Sah, which is around 30, around Sāth. Yeah, Aras-a. So it's kind of rounding up to the maximum potential.
Starting point is 01:00:38 So it's kind of assuming that your best days are already done, which you're, or Ataful after 35 and so, Arafif and so on. Yeah, my mom's 74 ready for more. So you can still have a great. I mean that's why so many people in Asia are so, especially women are so conscious about their age because, you know, it's like- Why? It's like wine though, you know?
Starting point is 01:01:02 They just get better. That's what I mean? I mean, we should elect us. Miltfman spitting facts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's true. It's, um... Local milk.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Local milk man gets elected. Yeah, local milk. Women can only be dated after 30. New policy. New policy. Put your wounds back in ladies. Oh man. But it's, yeah, I don't really notice a lot of the changes in Japan now that I'm a total
Starting point is 01:01:30 degenerate playing video games all the time now. Yeah. Yeah, I kind of realized people. I did a, I was doing a, I did a Q and anything. People asked me any questions about anything. And they just asked me questions like, you know, how is it living in Japan? I'm like, I mean, it's like different. What I do is not a normal way to live here.
Starting point is 01:01:49 And people ask me, how, you know, how do you move? How do this stuff? I don't have like a normal way of doing this. I'm the worst person to ask. Well, I think this is actually really interesting. A lot of people ask me that same question on the channel or just in general. But like you have many, yeah, many years of experience and like a normal approach to it. And for me, I left America around 25, 26 years old and.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Obviously useless. I was already useless. I couldn't make it. You laugh. I was like, I blow up the candles. I couldn't make it. I guess I'm just, that's all we're going to write for that one. But when I moved here, I feel like the only way I describe it is you got to ask yourself,
Starting point is 01:02:25 which stresses are you best equipped to deal with? America's stress was really hard for me. It was a bunch of retail jobs. It was a bunch of serving industry stuff. And I didn't like having to operate the car all the time and pay the fees and try to, everywhere you went was like this huge ordeal or parking. I felt like my theater degree should have been a minor, not a major. in that regard where progress was never really,
Starting point is 01:02:54 there was no blueprint for my success. And so when I moved to Japan, I was able to deal with the stresses of living here much better, which are packed trains, which are a little bit longer work schedules, which are scheduling your spontaneity is a little bit less as America. They'll be like, let's hang out, this is great. How about on the 23rd of February?
Starting point is 01:03:13 And you're like, what? That's like in three months. But those are the things that I was okay with. But the number one thing of why I stayed and when I visited, I realized was into this day, genuinely, I wake up every day and I still enjoy my environment where I'm walking, what I'm seeing, what I'm eating, what I'm buying. And I enjoy that so much more than I do, the United States that it's not even close. That's a really interesting way. I've never thought about putting it in like dealing with the stresses of living in each country. I've never thought, looked at it that way. I just kind of thought like, I like these things about. but never really thought about it, like I don't like these parts about the UK, but I guess they're hand in hand, right? Well, it's like every place you live in
Starting point is 01:03:55 is not perfect. Yeah, you can have. Of course not. Different stresses, different things that bother you. But, you know, the daily life overall here is just very good. Yeah. And people always like, you must be like playing it up.
Starting point is 01:04:06 It can't be that good. It's very nice. It's pretty good. I mean, we would have left otherwise. It's kind of just insane that everything kind of just works. Like when stuff goes wrong, it's horrible, because you have to deal with like so many layers of systems, but like daily life stuff, everything works so seamlessly. And you can,
Starting point is 01:04:24 you can always rely on everything. And it's, it's, yeah, I mean, not to like, fucking jerk off Japan, but I mean, like, well, I mean, it's the biggest city on the planet. It's great. It's great. You can, I, I survived it sometimes having to steal toilet paper from parks, but I survived it by a teacher's salary, which is like the lowest entry point. Four pennies and a shilling. Yeah. So I think that if you can make that work, it's pretty good. But my wife would say that Perth was better for her and she's Japanese. So maybe, there you go.
Starting point is 01:04:55 Yeah, Japanese people love Perth for some reason. I don't get it. I don't either. It's a bit of a shit old. Sorry, Perth. But I'll be visiting there soon. Every time someone from Puff, actually the, the, I've run with some viewers the other day who recognized me because of my shoes.
Starting point is 01:05:07 And I was like, oh, we're some. They were like, Puff. And I was like, oh, I'm sorry. And they were like, oh, you know Puth shit. I was like, yeah, yeah, I got, no Australia. It's like, yeah, is any city in Australia. It's like there are the people who are like, yeah, our place of shit.
Starting point is 01:05:20 And then there are people who are just like, hardcore, like, nah man, we live in the best city in the world. I've learned that you can call two cities shit pretty unequivocally. It's Perth, but mainly Canberra. Oh yeah, no, everyone in Australia can agree. Can't agree, Camberra is the worst. And that's our fucking capital.
Starting point is 01:05:35 Oh, really? Yeah. That's the world. When it's under your capital, you could have a Batman. It's a fucking, it's a fucking sports capital. Yeah. You know, because you had Melbourne and Sydney. Yeah. And you just get the only reason,
Starting point is 01:05:46 I don't know if you know this, but the reason why we chose Canber as our capital is because it sits perfectly between Sydney and Melbourne, and we couldn't decide on which one, so we picked a random city in the middle. That's so Australian. Yeah. I love that. It sounds like sports fan, you know, it's just like, all right, you guys can't agree. Could be worse, you could call both cities Melbourne and split them with a river. Oh, that's Kansas City, isn't it? Yeah. Exactly. Hey, look, that would work even five years ago. But I haven't, I mean, fuck Kansas City. No, I'm
Starting point is 01:06:15 kidding. I like Kansas City. It's one of my favorite places to raise a family. I'm going to go to tell her real quick. You don't because he's already leaving. He just makes fuck Kansas City. There you go. But yeah, it's, it's, it's, um, Kansas City was where I had, what, a dozen different jobs. So being a part of a city like that was, it was, it was great. It was lost season. It was wild. I mean, yeah. But, yeah, what was the best job you'll be out there? Let me just go through. list.
Starting point is 01:06:46 All right. Let's go through your I think I've already forgotten so many. Yeah, let's go through your resume. So I started at a flea market called Riki's flea market. I was 13 years old and I was not paid in cash but she did have a selection of gag gifts from like a Peewee Herman movie.
Starting point is 01:07:02 Like gum that would make your your mouth turn like black or blue, stink bombs, things like that, right? How old were you? 13. That's illegal. First job. Yeah. So that old child labor. Then I went to a I worked at a coffee shop called TOTOS, you know, like Dorothy and Wizard of Oz.
Starting point is 01:07:19 And I was promptly fired from that when they put me by myself at a location that was like brand new and somebody got sick. So it was like my fourth day. And everyone was like, there was like a huge line for some reason. And I was like, uh, and I panicked. And there was one guy like literally wanking off in the corner because there's a library and they had the computer. I had to call the police. I got fired. It was done. That was 15 years old. Okay. Then I took a break from jobs after those two. I was like, all right. I'm just eating stink bombs,
Starting point is 01:07:48 and I got police called on some weirdo. Yeah. So then after that, we got into college and I had a whole series of waiting tables, which was great work because you get the money that day, and then immediately go buy video games or cards that night.
Starting point is 01:08:02 Right. So we had Applebee's, Chili's, Red Robin. There was one more in there, but I can't remember. It's gone now. GameStop was a big one. That was fun. We've worked at Z95.
Starting point is 01:08:15 seven today shit music that was a good one I worked at the olive garden briefly that was you worked at olive garden that one actually was really unfortunate so this one actually has a different story that it's going to intercede is that okay this is one of the worst dates of my entire life it was it was very bad
Starting point is 01:08:38 starting a day worked in the kitchen no no so um I had just got this I really loved this girl. She was so sweet. She was so awesome. And I was a senior and she was a junior. And we, I just graduated. So I was moving into the college thing and she was just becoming a senior. And I was like, well, I won't see her in the hall anymore. I should ask her out. Like, I can do this. So I got all my buddies around me because that's what I did back then. I was like, I'm going to call her. Here we go. And they're like, get the boys to hide you all. I'm like, yeah, let's go.
Starting point is 01:09:08 And I was like, and I was like, I was like, it's busy. So we had to like wait and we're like, What are you going to say? I'm going to let it come to me. And they're like, you should come up. I was like, I got this. So I was like, and then I was like, hey, you know. So I call her and I was like, hey, I was thinking that this would be so cool if you and I, my boys were like, yeah, we should, we should go out and like, have a date.
Starting point is 01:09:33 And she'd be like, I really like that. And then everybody was like, so I, they're watching sports. And I was like, you know, cut it out. I had, I just got my license at 18. because we couldn't afford a car at that time until then. But my mom was kind of to get me this old white Cadillac, not Cadillac, but like that kind of Oldsmobile. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:54 And my mom had just got a new Ford Focus. And I said, can I please borrow your car so that I could show up without like, you know, this thing that's smoking out the back part part. Yeah. And she was like, oh, of course, just be careful. I love you. And I was like, okay.
Starting point is 01:10:09 And then at that time, my sister already moved out. So we had my cousin Justin living with us upstairs. And he was like in his midterm. He was like, yo, bro, you going out with the girl tonight? I was like, yeah. He was like, what's your plan? I was like, I'm going to take it to where I used to work at the Olive Garden. And he was like, um, bold.
Starting point is 01:10:26 And I was like, no, man, you get like breadsticks. He's like, okay, it's fine, all right. And he's like, what about after that? And I was working at the radio station at that time. And I was a celebrity judge at an improv show. Yeah, I remember this story. Yeah, so, sorry, you have to hear it again. No, no, no, no, I don't mind.
Starting point is 01:10:43 So I got this one. my God. Well, so the, I was like, I get to be a celebrity judge because the actual guest couldn't make it. And then he was like, dude, that's sick. He was like, all right, look, I don't know how things are going to turn out tonight, but just in case. I was like, what is that? He was like, it's a condom, you idiot. I was like, huh? What do I do with that? And he's like, I don't have time to explain all that. He was like, just put that in your coat and don't you worry about the thing. He's like, you got this big man. And I have no intention of using this. I don't even, I'm not interested in that at all.
Starting point is 01:11:15 I'm just trying to focus on Olive Garden, don't eat too much, and then improv show. So I take the car, pick her up, we go to the Olive Garden, and they were really nice because they were like, hey, I used to work you, what's up, man? And I was like, you know, it's not just the free breadsticks. They gave me some other perks too, like a dessert.
Starting point is 01:11:33 And I was feeling like, I was like, this is so sick. You were like the shit. This is so perfect. And then we went to the improv show, and it's hilarious. is everybody's laughing, everybody's having a good time, and I'm giving out big scores, you know what the numbers,
Starting point is 01:11:46 and they said, and they were like, and now we're going to bring up the celebrity judge to do an improv game with us. And I was like, oh, I fucking killed. It was awesome.
Starting point is 01:11:57 It was so funny. In my memory, people are going like, peat, but I don't think they, my name was Kramer, I guess, but they were like,
Starting point is 01:12:04 people were going nuts. Everybody was like, viving and everyone was coming up to me. Man, that was so funny what you did. And I was like, Thanks. And I looked at it and I was like, yeah, you know, I take an improv class at college.
Starting point is 01:12:15 You know, I'm like, I'm just, you know, I'm just feeling. I'm feeling so good. So we get in the car and she's like, I'm cold and I'm like, you can have my jacket and stuff. And I'm doing like the cool thing. The chivalry thing. The chivalry. I'm feeling chivalrous. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:28 And I'm freezing my ass off. But, you know, we're driving around. And I, I said, well, you know, it's only like 930, 945. Do you know, we? can go home or I could drive us around for a while. And she's like, I like that. I was like, okay.
Starting point is 01:12:49 So then I adopt the cool guy position where it's like, this is one hand, one hand on the steering. But this isn't automatic. So I don't even need the clutch. It's just the thing that puts it as a power stance. It's a power stance.
Starting point is 01:13:02 It's a power stance. And so we stop at this red light. And it's not even really, I think it was around winter because I know it's cold. So maybe we're looking at Christmas lights or something. And it wasn't even a red light.
Starting point is 01:13:14 It was a stop sign. So I met the stop sign. And I'm chilling and she puts her hand on top of mine. Oh. And I freaked the fuck out and hit the gas. And I teabone this other car coming right in front. Like slammed it. Like a sports car.
Starting point is 01:13:27 There was like a corvette or something. I teabone that because I panicked so hard. I was like, let's go. And then like I'm driving through someone's lawn. And she's like, stop the car. Stop the car. And I'm like, what? And I'm like going to, I'm knocking over like,
Starting point is 01:13:41 Christmas decorations and I like turned the car around and I was like oh my God what if I I don't have a cell phone because before I had one but they didn't exist yet so I had to go knock on the person's door who I just drove through their yards and I was like oh no I'm so sorry can I please use your phone and they're like is everybody okay I was like yeah and I of course I checked on the other person they were totally fine I'd hit their passengers and it wasn't she was by herself and I like I dented the front of their car, but, you know, and I think there was like a brief moment where I probably blamed someone else.
Starting point is 01:14:14 I was like, didn't they have it? She was like, it's a two, it's your stop sign. I was like, damn it. So it was all my fault. And I look at the car and it won't start. I totally smash the front of this brand new Ford Focus. And I was like, oh, fuck. And so I couldn't reach her because I was calling home
Starting point is 01:14:33 and I think she was with her friends or maybe she was watching a movie. I don't know. She probably was on a sixth edible. I don't know. So, so we had to call her mom. And I was like, I'm so sorry. I had this accident.
Starting point is 01:14:44 And can you please come pick us up? We're at this place. And she was like, oh, yeah. Are you guys okay? I was like, yeah. And I already gave the insurance. The other person's okay. They left already.
Starting point is 01:14:52 Everyone's fine. She's like, okay, I'm on my way. I'll be there in like 30 minutes. I was like, okay. So now we're outside and she's like, she gets my coat. And I'm just like, I'm so sorry. This is so embarrassing. And she was like, no, you know what?
Starting point is 01:15:04 It was still a really fun night. And I had a good time. And I was like, thank you. So her mom, never shows up. Like we don't see her. We don't know. It's been like 45 minutes and the family comes back outside and they said, is something wrong? I was like, can I try calling home again? And we call my cousin. He was like, bro, what's up? How is the date? And I was like, I totaled my mom's car. Can you please come pick us up? He's like, what? I only have like a truck and I've got
Starting point is 01:15:27 like a deer thing in the deer head in the front. And I was like, that's okay. We all squeeze in the back. And he was like, I'm over here. So he comes and picks us up. Then we're driving. So So the Yamonote circles around Japan. Pan City has a similar highway called 435, which just circles the city. We're on 435 going back. And this girl I'm with, like, stop your car. Wait, I think I see my mom. Her car had broke down on 435.
Starting point is 01:15:51 Oh my God. So we picked up her mom. And I'm in the middle between like mom and daughter. And he was Justin's driving with this stupid deerhead in the front. And all I can see is like his eyes and like the faint outlook of like a smile above. his teeth. He's like, and he was like, so how is the olive garden? I was like, it was fine. And he was like, did you, uh, I guess you're not going to need that thing in your pocket? And I was like, no, he didn't say that in the car. I'm not wearing the jacket. So Justin, so when she, she goes like
Starting point is 01:16:25 this and then she like, I swear, this is how I remember it, but there's no clean ending this story because I think I blacked out. If you were to film it, she like pulls it out and then the mom's looking and I'm doing this, he's smiling, and then the Larry David music plays. And it's like executive produced by and go fuck yourself. And I don't know how I got out of that situation. That's so evil. Your cousin did you so good. He didn't know that she was wearing the jacket. But that, yeah, Olive Garden, GameStop. This is literally in between a plot. Yeah, this is. Is it? Have you watched it in between us? I know. This is your life. Dude, that was a literally your life. That was a pretty, that's crazy. That was a cool story though. It's literally
Starting point is 01:17:04 about like. Yeah, we did. happen to me but yeah we we you know so my mom you know to her credit i went home and i was like she was i mean she had just got this car yeah and i was so embarrassed and i was like i'm so sorry mom and she's like you know you've always been my favorite son i'm like i am your only son she just she always said that too and i hang up the few my favorite son she was like as long as you're both healthy i'm fine i'm just sad that you know you i couldn't help you more and i was like Like, damn, Mom, I'm sorry, you're the true one. And I was like, what are you going to do for work?
Starting point is 01:17:40 She goes, you know what? She always says, we're Macy's. We'll figure it out. Oh, yeah. So she closed. So she lost the job. She lost her job on Monday. They look nice for another year.
Starting point is 01:17:53 And it was, that was the, that was one of the worst first dates, but also one of the best. I mean, it's certainly the most memorable. So. A character building. It was a character. For sure. Yeah. character building. It writes itself. Briefly, this, I was also an usher at a, I worked at three
Starting point is 01:18:11 movie theaters, but this one leads to one more date story. Is that okay? Yeah, of course, man. Go crazy. This one's way shorter. So I was a master usher at a theater. Okay, wait, wait. What is the difference between an usher and a master usher? Who wants to usher the ushers? I'm glad you asked. I was like a butler of so on. I was able to coordinate the other ushers, but that means they had to come to me for their instructions. How old are you at this point? I think I was 34. No, I'm kidding.
Starting point is 01:18:37 I was 20. How old are these ushers? Like 16? Yeah, some of them were, I think we were all college students. Oh, okay. It was out of the theater at college. You were just distinguished above the rest. Special treatment.
Starting point is 01:18:49 And that also worked towards my shop class so that I was working for hours of like, because I didn't want to paint or build. So this girl who I had like the hugest crush on, she was so beautiful. And I had never talked to her ever. She was an usher that. because she was like she needed the hours for the class. And she was like, are you like the master usher or something that I have to talk to? And I was like, uh, yeah, but you know what?
Starting point is 01:19:12 You don't have to do any. I was such a wimp. I was like, you can just chill and do your own things. She was like, oh, so it's like, you're not even worth anything. You're not doing anything. I was like, I definitely have a lot of control. You know what? Actually, I'm going to need you at the front.
Starting point is 01:19:22 You have like this. You got, let's go get her attitude. And I was like, wow, that was, I need my bros to hype me up for this. And so afterwards, called them all in. Called them all. So afterwards, I was like, I told me, I was like,
Starting point is 01:19:35 you know, that was really fun, you know. She was like ushering. And I was like, ah, yeah, I was like,
Starting point is 01:19:41 you know, this is something I don't normally do, but I'm just going to swing here. I was like, you seem really cool and I'd like to get to know you better. Do you just want to go out and get like coffee or something sometime? She was like, you know what?
Starting point is 01:19:52 That was a lot better than your usher game. So yeah, let's do that. That'd be fun. I was like, that's sick. So we went out. We had coffee.
Starting point is 01:19:57 It's a great time. And then she said, you know, like a week later or something at school, we passed in the halls. And she said, why don't you, you know, come to my place tonight. You know, my friends are out of town. And I've got the, I've got the whole apartment. I was like, okay, yeah, that sounds cool. Of course.
Starting point is 01:20:12 I'll be there. What time you want to show up? She's like, seven, seven 30. I was like, yeah. Pretty late. It's pretty late. I was like, I do that shit all the time. That's cool.
Starting point is 01:20:19 Yeah. So I go there and I'm like, very nervous. I'm like, and I'm, I never had this opportunity before. or like when, like, I feel like things were in motion that were beyond my understanding. Right. And I was like, I don't know why I navigate these uncharted waters. Yeah. So I go up there and we're watching a movie and I do the thing where every guy does.
Starting point is 01:20:39 I like, I sit as far away from her as possible because I'm, I don't know the vibe. And then I go to the bathroom and I sit like a little closer. And then I go to the bathroom again because I was like, I should just had closer. And I do like, is something wrong with your blat? I'm like, no, no, no. I'm just, that awkward feeling of like slowly like, it is so real. or you're like, yeah, nah, it's, yeah. And you know, there's...
Starting point is 01:20:59 You can move your hand like this. I know, it's so good. And like, I actually am getting kind of nervous even if you're telling these stories. Yeah, because the thing about those, and I had a really great acting coach who you may remember called the radio station, defended me.
Starting point is 01:21:13 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He said, uh, he goes, you know, man, when you're in these relationships and, like, whether it's been like 10 years or you meet someone for the first time, you really got to like appreciate, dude, those, those real raw moments.
Starting point is 01:21:25 We're like vulnerable and you don't know because someday you're going to be married like me and all that shit's going to be gone. It's a routine. And I was like, oh. And he was like, no, I'm kidding. We have new things. But he's like, these are these are really vital. And I was like, okay. And I was, that was in my mind.
Starting point is 01:21:42 So I'm like, the heart's pumping. And I do the thing that you do. You know, like, oh. Like slowly your hand is like, yeah. No, actually this is a good sitting position. And then you're like, and then once the arm was around, it like, it was like a. loving a baseball. We just felt like this. And it felt like I was like,
Starting point is 01:21:59 this is so cool. This is so awesome. And we're watching this movie. And I feel like, dude, this is the time to go for the kiss because this movie is like lame as fuck. This is like the longest movie I've ever seen. I think I chose like Magnolia. And it's a good movie. But like, I was like, get something long so you're there for like four hours.
Starting point is 01:22:17 And I go in and we start to like this brief kiss. And it's like it's moving towards something. And then suddenly I get like this on the door. This dude is like, I'm not gonna say her name. I'll say her name is Rachel. He's like, Rachel, open the door. I hear some movies in there.
Starting point is 01:22:32 I know you're not alone. And she's like, get out of here. I don't wanna see your face. And I was instantly, I'm like, uh-oh, this is not what I'm, and he was like, who else is in there? Who's the other motherfucker in there? I want to know who that motherfucker is. And I was like, I can't do this.
Starting point is 01:22:46 I'm not strong. And I was like, she was like, yeah, he could kick the shit out of you, you piece of shit, and I'm glad I left your ass. And he was like, who is it? Who is it? it. Who is it? And like, they are arguing and I'm just sitting there totally terrified. Terrified.
Starting point is 01:23:01 And eventually he was like, I ain't gonna forget this and I'll be waiting outside. I'll be waiting outside, motherfuckers. And I was like, oh God, please don't do this. And he left. He feasibly left. And she has like a breakdown now. Now she's crying and I'm like, oh
Starting point is 01:23:17 fuck. This is all wrong. And so we're trying to like fix this thing. And I'm like, don't worry about it. And she, she, like, stood up on the couch. She was a shorter girl. She stood up on the couch and was, like, looking through the blinds. She was like, he's gone. He was a loser.
Starting point is 01:23:33 I fucking hate that guy. And I, I walked over to him. I was like, it's okay. And then, like, at that one moment, we were like the exact same height. Right. I said, it's going to be all right. I'm here. Like, I'm not going to do anything, but I was like, that sounds.
Starting point is 01:23:47 I won't help, but I'm here. And then we had, like, this passionate embrace. Hell yeah. And I was like, let's fucking go. This is sick. I crushed. And then she's like, oh, you know, I used to be this model. Do you want to see some of the pictures?
Starting point is 01:23:59 Like, yeah, of course. You're very beautiful. And I'm going through these pictures. And I was like, yeah, these are great. And then like, some of them are kind of, yeah, I'm like, yes, yes. Some of them are kind of artistic. And I'm like, well, these are lacking a lot of the clothing that I normally see. But this is very, it's very cool, black and white, whatever.
Starting point is 01:24:17 And then she goes, yeah, I'm, here, let's just, I have some more in my room. Do you want to come take a look at it? And I was like, yeah, sure. Totally miss that signal. Like it was just fired right past me. So I go into her room and she's like, I think they're over by the bed and she's like, whatever, getting near the bed. And on her wall, she had like this enormous poster.
Starting point is 01:24:36 It was huge. It was like, I guess as big as the TVs we get for free now. But it was like John Lennon. But all of his face was smaller pictures of John Linen. Like a mosaic. Yeah, it was like a giant mosaic. And I was like, I was just lost it staring at that. And I was like, this is crazy.
Starting point is 01:24:52 There's so many John Lennon's. I didn't even think. And then she was like, well, why don't you come sit next to me? I was like, yeah, yeah, just one second. I was like, some of these even have the Beatles, but I thought they broke up and he's dead. And she's like, yeah, it's just a poster. And I was like, oh, yeah, and I turn around, she's completely naked. Completely naked.
Starting point is 01:25:12 Completely. Damn. And she said, she kind of like does this thing. She goes, just make yourself comfortable. I'm like, uh, uh, here's what I did. So bad. I took off my shoes and laid next to her. That was good.
Starting point is 01:25:28 And I was just sitting there like now. Like a little, a sweater. And I'm just so scared. Well, you all comfortable. You were very comfortable. She was like,
Starting point is 01:25:37 isn't that hot? And I was like, no, I'm fine. And she's like, well, you know, the bed has covers. I'm like,
Starting point is 01:25:45 yeah, that's how I always sleep. And, you know, I wish that there was a natural end to this story. I didn't have the courage to go through with that. I felt like everything was just happening too fast.
Starting point is 01:25:57 Yeah, that's a lot. Yeah, that's a bit mocked. And I just felt like this, this is not right for me right now. Yeah. And so I was like, this is so crazy and cool, but I think I need, it's, I gotta go. You're so cool and crazy, but I gotta go.
Starting point is 01:26:15 I was like, I don't think I can even stand up for the next four hours. Do you want to finish the movie that? So it was, that was the other dating story that I fondly remember where I looked at a poster and I saw a naked woman and took off my shoes. I can't, it's so lame. It's so pathetic. I don't think you, if you were cool in your dating life and you're like 18, I think science
Starting point is 01:26:39 is gone wrong. Yeah. No, I don't think I ever got cool with my day. Yeah, but I mean, like if you were, if you were like, yeah, I was 16 and I just kind of knew everything. It's like, what? No, it's meant to be awkward. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:49 It was very awkward. So that was fun, but I was working as an usher there. I worked for Bose, the music company. I worked at Best Buy Circuit City. I worked at the mall briefly selling. Oh, that was fun. I worked at like one of those sunglasses hut things. And across from me, it was so annoying because it was this other kiosk that had calendars.
Starting point is 01:27:12 That was like the only thing they sold, like a classic mall in America. And the one that was always there was, it was. is my favorite thing to watch. It was a calendar called studs and spurs. And it was these cowboys with like six packs and their boots and jeans on. And every, I would just, that's like all that's facing me is the studs and spurs catalog.
Starting point is 01:27:32 And I loved watching women walk by and double take and then kind of be like, should I buy it? Should I look at March? Like, what does October look like? And I'd be like, I'd always be like, are the months the same as they always were? I need a check. Yeah, I was like, just buy it.
Starting point is 01:27:46 I was like in that age. But movie theater. theaters, countless restaurants. God damn, you've done everything. What haven't you done, man? It was a lot. It was a lot of different jobs here and there. You're talking about your dating thing.
Starting point is 01:27:59 Remind me of when Chris was telling us about his first kiss. He snogged Tom Scott for three hours or whatever he say. What did he say? He said, he said, yes, it was, we weren't doing it. And then suddenly, we snogged for three hours. And I was like, he made it sound so clinical. And I was like, it's such a passionate. Snob is the worst.
Starting point is 01:28:18 That's a passionate embrace. And he was like three hours, but the snogging is finished. And I can imagine it. And he's like, was that good? It was good, wasn't it? So, but yeah, the... I have flashbacks to terrible dating.
Starting point is 01:28:34 Yeah, we've all been there. Actually, your story here just give, I think I like, you unlock so many core memories that I just like, you unlocked about three terrible dates. I think of my mind. There's some people on that, you know, and they liked this show. And they were like, yeah, we like it
Starting point is 01:28:51 because it kind of taught us to like, don't worry about being yourself. I was like, what the fuck are you talking about? Don't worry about being yourself. And I was like, oh, no way. Actually, I remember when I liked this girl, I would literally do anything that I thought she liked. Yep.
Starting point is 01:29:03 I would be like, who am I? I don't even know. I love Twilight and I love One Direction. Like, that's what I, that's me. That's what I love. I love the notebook is the notebook. I love the notebook, no book's amazing. Yeah, why not?
Starting point is 01:29:13 Like, let's run it back. You know, I always forget that awkward part of where you're like, I, where you think like you as a guy or, I mean, it's pretty a very like a relatable thing where you're just like, you just think that whatever you're into is automatically not what they're into. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:28 Thus you need to change everything. Yeah. And you're like, yes, I like what you like and movies. I like that thing you just mentioned to me for two seconds ago. I know all about it. Let me guess. I can formulate the perfect personality that make, that will make her like me. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:29:42 We will have the same interest. Yeah, yeah. And what's so sad though, and I think Times are better now, but I remember growing up. I don't know about that. Well, I mean, maybe not. I mean in this regard that I'm about to say. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:29:54 When I grew up, it was a very still misogynistic culture about like trying to date as many people as you can. I had zero success with this. But that was like, and then- That was the vibe, right? It was like, oh yeah. It was like deeper culture. Yeah, I mean, it was just like, you know,
Starting point is 01:30:09 we wanna, all that consumed our thoughts was like, I wanna date girls or I wanna be with some. Well, it was like losing your virginity was like such a big- Well, that was like American. It also came out when we were in like school. Yeah. A big thing at the time.
Starting point is 01:30:22 But it was, it was always like such a big like, oh, I don't know. Like every, every guy always talked about. If they had sex, they were like, if they had sex and it was always like, bro, you're still a version. It was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was always like the lead up to like the big event and like, you know, I got to a point where I'm like, damn, I looked to my left. I look to my right and I'm like, I'm the only one.
Starting point is 01:30:43 I'm going to college, man. I'm going to university. Shit, that's so real. I hate you. You know what I mean? And I'm like, damn, is there something wrong with me? I just have zero fucking game. It's like, damn, maybe I am gay.
Starting point is 01:30:56 I remember that we, I also worked at a FedEx Kinkgo's as an overnight shift where I was. Okay, I mean, did you just, did you just like, we were a completionist of jobs? That was actually the best because I could bring my PC in there and play World of Warcraft during the entire night. Wait, the full on like, like fucking. I had to bring the tower.
Starting point is 01:31:14 Yeah, yeah. What the fuck? You brought it in every shift. Or my friends would. bring board games and we just play, you know, games and stuff. Yeah. But I remember when this was, this was in my 20s or whatever, early 20s, and it was, it was during that culture of that.
Starting point is 01:31:26 And I remember somebody had bought a enormous, giant, huge printout of the whole world. And then they didn't need it, but it was on this really thick poster vinyl. And so I had it hanging up in my basement. And we were playing games one day. And a third friend was like, we should like have a game where it's like, we all have different basis and we should try to like meet women and like we can have a competition to see who can who can have the most women from different countries. It's like risk and I was like that sounds fun. The only problem with that was after about three months we had to change the rules. I was like
Starting point is 01:32:01 what if we talk to foreign women like instead of being with them like if there's what if we just said like I saw someone from Europe do I get to claim Europe and I was like this isn't us guys. We're not cool. We're not dating like that. And even then we're like, this is not our culture, but we have this cool map. And I was like, why don't we just play risk with it? So yeah, it was during that whole American pie,
Starting point is 01:32:27 cheesmo. And I think these days people are a lot more accepting. And like, I think, at least in Japan students were. Yeah. I mean, I think because like now there isn't that like weird expectation or like social pressure to be like, you got to, if you're a dude, If you're 16 years old and you haven't lost your virginity,
Starting point is 01:32:45 then you're, you suck. Quite a question to you, our younger audience, is there still a pressure to hook up and lose your virginity? If there is, don't worry about it. If there is, don't worry about it. I'm just curious because it was such a huge formative part of our childhoods and it was such a huge factor in judging our own self-worth and now we are of my shoulder
Starting point is 01:33:06 and we're like, shit, that shit was like stupid and worthless. It was completely crazy. It was so toxic. It was so dumb, but yeah, that was a different era. Yeah, I mean, also I just don't think, part of the reason I think it might still be there is just because I don't think we can get rid of horniness as a teenage.
Starting point is 01:33:26 Yeah, yeah. We hear just, of course not. You hit puberty and those hormones hit hard and you're like, budge into the door and I'd come. You know what I mean? Stop my toe in. Yeah, being a teenager was very different. It was very simple a teenager.
Starting point is 01:33:42 time. It was very different. I remember, oh man, my first experience, my first, my first ever experience, like, feeling that like, that like emotion, whatever you want to call it. So I was like, I was, we were at our computer and we were still in school, right? So this is right around the time of like puberty age, right? And we, like, I was like, me and the boys, we was like computer class and we were just like playing, I think we're like playing Age of Empires too. Some shit like that. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:17 Age of War. At school? Yeah, at school, because- You had Age of Empires on your PC? Do you know we Age of War? No, it was, I'm pretty sure it was Age of Empires. What the fuck? Because some guy found a way to install it on the,
Starting point is 01:34:30 on like the fucking computer PCs. So it was like lunchtime. So it was like, you know, a lot of people were out, but me and a few other kids were playing. How does this get from Age of Empires to jack it off? I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:34:41 All right. But I remember one of the girls in my class, like she comes, she comes up to us. And it was just after PE. So PE is like physical education. So she was like wearing her like, her like sports clothes. Sports clothes, right?
Starting point is 01:35:00 And no female sports clothes back in the day was just like she was just wearing like a really long t-shirts, right? And I remember she comes up to us like, a group of boys and she's like, hey, wanna see something cool. Uh-oh. She did know.
Starting point is 01:35:15 And she was just like, she was just like, what the fuck? And I was like, and then she was like, and they just ran off. And I was like, what the fuck? I'm serious, I'm serious. That's burned into your brain. And I was like, ha ha ha, that's weird.
Starting point is 01:35:34 I just like, I just. See, what's crazy is I tried the same thing last week. Oh, now I have. A check mark on my right, yeah. The reason is burned into my memory, it was because like, I remember as a kid, I was like, that's weird. I don't like, I was like, that's a bit weird.
Starting point is 01:35:53 So I would go back to playing Age of Empires and I'm like, why can I not stop thinking about what I've just seen? This is so weird. So the game is very boring. Yeah. What once was the most important? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:07 Why is gaming not my top priority That's like, keep on my mind right now. This is so weird. Oh my God. That is like burn into my memory. But yeah, that was, that was a very weird experience. She changed your life forever. What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:36:26 That's insane. Yeah. Your child is literally walk up. Yeah, literally. That's, yeah. I would also, if that happened to me, I would probably remember that for the rest of my life too. I think I'm going to remember the story
Starting point is 01:36:39 for the rest of my life. The audacity of this last. I remember telling you the story. They used to have this channel in the UK called, you just called Babe Station. Did you ever this thing? Oh yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:52 Babe Station? Yeah, that's way worse than the map. It was basically those like channels that would go live at like 11 p.m. on like page 95. You'd just feel like fucking... Yeah, right, channel 95. You'd be like pressing up up
Starting point is 01:37:04 because the fucking even the remote wouldn't go to it when you'd feel like 95. Yeah. You'd find it. It would basically be these like women who'd be like, call us, we're like sexy or whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:12 But it would only be on screen for, I don't know why, it was only on screen for like 30 seconds. So it was always like a fucking race against the clock to like try. I'd be like, hold, hold, hold. And you're like, I go. And then it would go off.
Starting point is 01:37:28 You'd be like, no, I nodded to a fucking vacuum commercial. But that's the worst version. The predating version of that in America was during, when cable was a thing, This is like high school, right? Yeah. And we would all be, maybe middle school, early high school. We would be sitting around the TV that has cable but not HBO,
Starting point is 01:37:48 Skinimax, or Cinemax. And so we called it back then, like, the other movie channels. And we'd be watching the distorted, like, blur. And then somebody would be like, I saw the boob. I'm like, no, you did. You did not. And I was like, wait, maybe that was. And I was like, I think that's a nipple.
Starting point is 01:38:04 And we would sit there and just hope. And like, we would see it in the squiggles. and the discolour coloring that like popped in. And sometimes you'd get like a glorious like it just somehow the planets would align. Yeah. And you'd get like six minutes of like a movie and you'd be like, get the tape recorder, hit record. And it was, that was the old days.
Starting point is 01:38:23 You had page 95. We had Skinnamax distorted boobs. I mean, kids now, it's, I feel sorry for them. They have the whole thing in their hands with, not the thing. Every kind of. They also have that in the hands. Don't even have to work for it. It's just, uh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:38 They don't know the real. of having to be secretive. All they do is fucking go into incognito. And that's all the job they need to do. I might have, I base, I know I did. I definitely printed off a naked woman's picture once from the internet. Really?
Starting point is 01:38:54 For sure. Yo, yo, you stay here. Yeah. Wow, you're mugging me? Don't worry about. And then you would like fold it up and be like, someday I'll forget and your mom would be like, I found this clean, you know, like, uh, it's like Carmen
Starting point is 01:39:09 lecture or something. I don't know. Like, who knows, but. Oh my God, I have, oh, you just, you just, you just like to call memory. Well, the other thing, I think we talked about this, I think, because all of our conversations go back to Kazah and your dad found it.
Starting point is 01:39:22 Yeah. Um, my, my friends found it. Oh. Yeah. Cause I put it, I stupidly, so I don't know if I've told this story, maybe I have, but, uh, I remember it was like my first time discovering hentai, wasn't even like women. It was just like hentai, right?
Starting point is 01:39:38 And it was just like, anime girls back in the day. And then I just like printed them off and I hit them in a gaming magazine. I remember it was no, it was a Nintendo magazine. Damn, oh my god. I was like, ain't no way anyone's ever gonna find this. Cause my parents didn't give a shit about gaming.
Starting point is 01:40:02 So I was like, they're not gonna find it. The gaming magazine is the last place they'll ever look. So I remember. It turns out it wasn't the last place they ever looked. So it turns out my parents don't look at Nintendo magazines. My friends do though. So I had friends over and we were playing games. I think we were playing like Smash Bros or something.
Starting point is 01:40:22 I went to the toilets. I came back and like the fucking the magazine was like fully open with all like the picture spread out. And like the biggest bullshit I could say was like, I'm holding on to them. I'm surprised the bloody thing open. It's my cousins, actually. What are those? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:45 I don't know. Don't worry about it. I remember this is back when like Bluetooth was just kind of starting. Like, and I had this one of the flip phones. Which, you know, we would always send each other like videos after like, you know, it would be like 10p. Yeah. And this one guy was like, yeah, I've got, I've got fucking, I've got porn. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:41:01 I had that experience too. I was like, no shit. I was like, yo, can you send me? He's like, yeah. I should, don't tell anyone, don't tell you one. And so he's sending it to me, you know, it's Bluetooth and it's taking fucking forever. And it canceled once.
Starting point is 01:41:13 And I was like, dude, it's halfway. You're like, come on, send it to me, I read it. The school is ending in like 30 minutes. And I was like, dude, we got 30, fuck. It's like fucking mission impossible trying to download the fucking coordinates to that. I was like, send me the fucking video, dude. Come on, what the fuck, man.
Starting point is 01:41:27 Because at the time, it wasn't even that, like, I didn't even know what to do with porn. It was just like a status symbol in school. To have that. You want to have access to it. Yeah. the cork in. Yeah, I got it.
Starting point is 01:41:38 Yeah, I could send it to you. So maybe the 90s weren't the best. I take it back now. Unbridled off times. Yeah. And I remember I finally, you know, it didn't happen that day. And I was like, you fucking need you.
Starting point is 01:41:47 Tomorrow, you better not fuck me on the, don't fuck me on this tomorrow. Yeah. And so next day we go in and he's like, I don't want to send you over lunch. So, you know, wait. And you just say next to each other. So, you know, I'm saying like,
Starting point is 01:41:58 you know, we're just chatting, whatever. And I finally get it. And I'm like, yeah, okay, shit, okay. So I wait till I get home and I open it. and I open this porn, it's like five seconds of the blurrish shit in existence. You cannot see anything. And all you can hear is like the most scuffed.
Starting point is 01:42:13 Oh, oh. Now it's all you needed though. And I'm like, sweet. And honestly, honestly? Yeah, we're dear. I'm not proud of it. I'm not proud of it. But like you couldn't make anything out.
Starting point is 01:42:24 You're like, you, and I think I was jacking off more to the idea of porn. Yeah, it's porn. I was like, yeah, it's porn. This is what I'm- At that point, you have no idea what to expect. Yeah, so I'm like, sure, whatever. Yeah, I can make it work. So you're in your brain, you're just like,
Starting point is 01:42:37 this is what porn is, I guess. That's, yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, that's interesting being a teenager. Yeah. Yeah, some things never change, huh? Nope. Something's never change. You guys remember your first kiss? Yeah, we spoke about this, yeah. That was unfortunate.
Starting point is 01:42:54 Me too, me too. Well, okay, here's the thing, the distinction we had to make. Okay. Which is like, like, maybe you had like that first kiss where you had like a little pack on the playground with a girl, like a full on kiss.
Starting point is 01:43:06 Yeah, dude, it was a fucking mess. Yeah, mine was kind of magical. Fuck off. Fuck you. Get the fuck out of it. In my head, it was, it was all that. Okay, there's no way it was magical for her. I don't believe it.
Starting point is 01:43:21 Tell me. She's on another podcast saying, oh, I had a horrible experience. This fucking piece of shit. I tell me, tell me. We were at her house. It was, it was me, her, and then like, uh, my guy friend and her.
Starting point is 01:43:33 girlfriend. Right. And it was just like the four of us, I was like, 11, I think. So I was like what? 11. All right, Don Juan. I was like,
Starting point is 01:43:42 11. Damn. 11? Yeah, I was like 11. What the fuck? Yeah, no, I left college. Yeah. He's like 11, yeah, already got a name.
Starting point is 01:43:51 Yeah. She was naked. I was 33. This virgin thing, I'm gonna figure it out. I'm really excited. You're like, yeah, 11, I just making out. Mind you, between this folks, and me losing my-
Starting point is 01:44:02 Biggie me. There was a large. I just don't believe it was magical then. It was magical you would have pounced on it. No, it was- Magical at 11. Magical you would have carried that confidence into like everything.
Starting point is 01:44:12 I remember like we were just like hanging out and then my mom came to pick me up from her house and then she was like, oh, I'll go with you to like, you know, go say, yeah, go get the door for you or whatever. And the thing, I vividly remember it. I'm like, I step out of the house, I turn around to say something to her
Starting point is 01:44:29 and she just grabs my face. And that's exactly what happens. to me. And then mine was anti-magical. Oh, this is exactly same thing. So basically, but it was my house and her sister came to pick her up. And when I said like, okay, that was fun, she reached in and like, started to make out with me. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:49 And I felt like the semblance of a tongue. Yeah. And I pulled her back and said, what are you doing? And then she ran to the car. And I was like, no, okay. For me, for me, there was no tongue. Why was it magical then? It was magical because one, it was literally my first kiss.
Starting point is 01:45:06 I liked this girl as well at the time. So it just felt more, but I didn't know because I was a little bitch boy. I was too afraid to ask like, do you like me because I like you? Send me a note circle, yes. Yeah, yeah, I was literally doing the no thing, right? So like in my head I was just like, oh man, you know, I wanna like stick around with her, you know, and like hang out,
Starting point is 01:45:25 but I, you know, my mom's come to pick me up, so I can't. And you know, I had no idea that she liked me as well. So it was, it all just had just had. happened so fast. Like she literally grabbed my face, just went, like that, and then said bye, and then slammed the door. Like you're a fucking toddler, bro. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:45:40 And like, I, I, you're like, no, did that just happen? And the walk, and the walk from her, from the door, to my mom's car, I was just floating. Yeah, you never touched the ground, I never touched the ground. I was like, that was awesome. Was your first kiss kids?
Starting point is 01:45:58 Was your first kiss kids or? Oh, no, it was like horrible. Oh, okay. I was, I think I got my first kiss pretty late. Like, how old were you guys? Cause I was like, I was in high school. 13. 16, 17. Yeah, 16, 14.
Starting point is 01:46:12 Damn, am I the weird one? No, I think you're, among weird. You're like our god. Wow. I didn't even start talking to girls until I was like pretty late before. Yeah, I was, I was pretty late. So I love to hear your story.
Starting point is 01:46:26 I know, I was, I remember we were on the beach. And it sounds magical. Oh, it's Bryant beach. So turn the magic down about like a half. Yeah, we got the stone beach. Yeah. But we were, you know, it was kind of like a, kind of like a small gathering at that point
Starting point is 01:46:44 where a lot of us, you know, in America, you had the mall. Where I grew up, we had the beach, right? And I remember there was this girl who had just, you know, he was just from like another school. It was like the first time I talked to her. She's realized where?
Starting point is 01:47:00 Huh? She's realized where. She's real. She's real. I will know, I still remember her name to this day because God, yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:09 This shit be like a core memory to me. Yeah. And so, you know, it was the first time that I'd ever, I guess, held a long conversation with a girl that wasn't,
Starting point is 01:47:21 you know. We kiss now. Conversation complete. Kissing time. Commence. It's time to snog for three hours. Conversation complete. And I remember we were,
Starting point is 01:47:32 uh, It was like my first attempt, I guess, like trying to flirt and that shit. And I'm like, ain't no way, this is actually working. No fucking way that something is happening right now. Right. So I remember there was just a small, there's just like a small group of us, right?
Starting point is 01:47:50 And we were sitting by the West Pier, which the West Pier, if you don't know, is a pier that crashed and burned down in Brighton, which, Definitely was, very romantic. Definitely was a metaphor for what was about to transpire. Oh no. Oh, we know. And so I was like, you know, I felt some,
Starting point is 01:48:15 I felt some chemistry going and I was just like, do I kiss? What's the right, what's the right signal to kiss? Like how do I, how do people know with this shit? You know, how do people know? Should I ask? Should I, can I kiss you? Can I ask?
Starting point is 01:48:28 I was like, we were vibing. We were like sitting pretty close together. Yeah. And I was like, I feel like can get close. So I feel like I can guess. So we're like, we like good chemistry. Luckily, she was, she was clearly more experienced than me. So we looked in the eyes and then she just goes like that.
Starting point is 01:48:52 And I was like, holy shit, that is the fucking go button. That is the go button. And I just thought, like a fucking sleeper agent being activated. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is the go button. And I just felt a shot of adrenaline. Yeah, of course, yeah. And I was like, holy shit, this is happening.
Starting point is 01:49:11 Fucking first thing that happens, like, uh-oh, do bang heads? Oh, bang heads? Oh, terrible. Terrible. Damn. Speed of light. I'm just like, oh shit, she gave me the go.
Starting point is 01:49:22 Bam, like that. And I'm like, and she's like, it's okay, it's okay, it's okay, don't worry. And I proceed to be like, is it still okay to like? And she's like, yeah. Yeah, sure, for one, asking for like permission to do this shit. May I? Yes, may I, ma'am?
Starting point is 01:49:37 Probably like the negative, negative fucking Riz right there. I think our hearts are in the right place. I'm guilty of it too, come on now. I think our hearts are in the right place. We can make this work. We care about consent. How about that? Exactly.
Starting point is 01:49:49 Yeah, we were ahead of our time, thank you. So, so I go in for, as Chris would call the snog, right? Our lips touch. And then I'm like, what's the technique? how does one do this? How did the French do it? Yeah, yes.
Starting point is 01:50:05 When does one initiate the tongue, right? What is, what is, what is? You know what I mean? I don't know the shit. The only thing I know about kissing is from Hollywood, right? So I'm like, so I, so I must have felt like a fucking snake, a fucking lizard.
Starting point is 01:50:25 Because like, I'm just like a lizard. Here it goes. I'm just like, you know how snakes, like they taste the air? Yeah. Oh no. So I was just like, oh no. Like that and she's like,
Starting point is 01:50:37 and she's like, she's like, we're gonna work on that. And I'm like, I'm like, I've blown it. I've fucking blown it. This is the other worst thing is when we were in high school, you would hear the,
Starting point is 01:50:50 they'd be like, so and so is an amazing kisser. Yeah. And I think, wait, there's like a tier list. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like there's a right way and a wrong way. How do you become the ST? Yeah. What is good kissing technique?
Starting point is 01:51:03 Yeah, and so I think for a lot of us, we just disqualified ourselves from giga chat of the year anyway. So that's it, we don't know. So they have like, like, that was so burned into my memory that I was just like, after that, I was just like, I literally like went on the internet and be like, how do you kiss well?
Starting point is 01:51:20 Practice with a pillow, these techniques. I mean, ironically, that night, I was like, I gotta get some practice. I went for like the back of the hand. I was like, I can't let this happen again, man. I think, yeah. I was, uh, it's true. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:51:33 based. I was, I think I was like 14. And, um, so I, I went to like a Welsh school, which is kind of like,
Starting point is 01:51:39 out of the way. But, uh, my, my, my best friend, he went to a concert and met this girl. And,
Starting point is 01:51:44 uh, he was, 14, he was going to concerts and doing cool shit? I think so, I think he was 14, 15.
Starting point is 01:51:49 I'm trying to remember now. And he was like, yeah, dude, she's totally chill. She lives right next to you. I was like, oh, cool, man.
Starting point is 01:51:55 He said, yeah, she talked to her. what he's like dude i'm trying i'm trying to get with her i was like oh oh shit my bad well i'm just gonna go hang out i'm sure it's nothing and then uh you know we're just chatting for like two hours and she's like hey let's kiss i was like yeah yeah she just came out with it damn she was like a year year or too older than me yeah and so i was like yeah okay sure yeah yeah so she starts like you know kissing and i'm just like like like probably like a monolith i'm like she's like you know
Starting point is 01:52:30 Snogging is the only word, I suppose, is suitable. And I'm just trying to like, I'm like trying to copy the movements that I'm feeling. Yeah. And so I'm like, oh, no, oh, no. Like, I'm like, yeah, cover all the taste buds. Like, just lick all of the mouth. Cause I'm like, what do you do?
Starting point is 01:52:47 Like, I'll like, yeah, I'll just cover the entire mouth area. That'll feel good. Like a wiggle at one point. Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, oh, okay. And then, you know, and then like, you know, you know, when you've had like the worst kiss of your life and you pull a way,
Starting point is 01:53:00 and then you're like, yeah. I remember being like my entire, like, I had like baby food. Just slubber all over like here. You know it's bad when it like goes above the way? Yeah, she's like, that was good. I was like, yeah, that was so good. And then the next couple of times I met up with this, she was like, yeah, yeah, I like you a lot, but you know, my ex-Johnny, he's just, you know,
Starting point is 01:53:24 he's messaging me. I was like, oh, okay, cool. Let's make out again. Yeah, I said, let's keep making out. Why are we talking about Johnny? Yeah. And then like three days later, she's like, yeah, I'm leaving you for Johnny. Because Johnny was like 18 and I was like, I can't compete with Johnny. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:37 Yeah. I think all of our stories have explained an awful lot about our careers. I just sat there. About our personalities. We may not be Rizzlers or whatever the term is, but I think everybody, no matter who you are, has those same stories. I just imagine you, when you had this thing and you pushed her away, you just mocked her. You were like, kiss you. He was naked.
Starting point is 01:53:59 I said honkshoo me me me me me me I was like I was like I see that's the thing is I didn't even have to talk I just had to turn my back to her and it was like an anime and she was like I can't this guy's too much on too yeah yeah oh my god there's memories that I'm at that point now I'm like yeah whatever those embarrassing moments make you yeah yeah exactly and like you said learned what not to do at the time it felt like your world was crumbling yeah It's like, I'm going to die now. That's another thing that, you know, I have noticed that as I've gotten older, there were moments like this or other things that were really actually genuinely impactful in my life. But as it's, I've gotten into my 40s, I think, was that when I was 23 or 26? I have no recollection. It's like you get to a point where those that do not diminish the importance of them, but remembering the details can be very, very hard.
Starting point is 01:54:55 And then as you were telling me your story about these, these peers and these things, I had a bunch of new memories come back that I haven't thought of in a decade or two decades. But they were life or death when they happened or transformed. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yep, that was a fun one. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:12 I think that's, wait. So I have one more thing for Connor. Oh, shit. Just close your eyes. Here we go. For me? No, this is from, you don't have to close your eyes. You can open them.
Starting point is 01:55:23 When I, last year, we met at TwitchCon in the EU. Yeah. and I held an event for our community. And instead of, they showered you with gifts. So I have one. No, wait. Wait, what? Oh, one of them was actually so cool.
Starting point is 01:55:38 It's this one and I think that- Dude, this was so sick. I think it'd be perfect for your background. Either at home or here. Yeah, I'm kind of, what is it? I'm kind of selfish. I wanna definitely take this one home. Yeah, I just didn't want it in my house anymore.
Starting point is 01:55:51 So yeah. Okay. I couldn't take it because I was going to America right after. So he made me, Carrie. So I made him go, because he was going home and I was like, you know what? Oh, okay. No, I won't, I want, no.
Starting point is 01:56:00 Well, I gotta take off the padding now. Well, it's a little anticlimactic. It's not. Well, it's cooler than that. It's cool than that. It's cool. It's cool user name, Flood to Flood made, they also made me one, but mine did get damaged
Starting point is 01:56:13 in the way home, but I'll let you guys see this one first. Yeah, look at that. Oh, cool. Oh, isn't that sick? That's sick. Fucking awesome. Hell yeah. It's really well done.
Starting point is 01:56:25 Dude, the detail on the shoe. Oh my God. Are those the Vessies? What they saw? They're not vese. Well, yes. They're not vese. I think they look like,
Starting point is 01:56:33 likeling shoes. Yeah, they're pretty cycling shoes. That's so sweet. Dude, the attention to detail on the T-shirt is where I'll, like, that's amazing. Like, how do you do that? I gotta give this a claim.
Starting point is 01:56:40 There you go. So the one that I got was also like the full van. Oh, yeah. But it got, and I was like standing next to it, like chilling and doing the same thing. But when I got home and unwrapped it, it had been not as carefully and lovingly packed. But my character had been flipped off the diorama
Starting point is 01:56:57 and is heads upside down being hit by the car. And I thought about opening up and fixing it. But Ian was like, no, that's how I always thought of those streams. So please keep it. So on the background of that, it has me being hit by Ian in the van gang. So it's a really fun. Thank you for bringing it. Yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 01:57:16 That's so cute. These guys continue to inspire. He's got my purple bike, dude. There you have it. Well, that was super fun. Thank you very much. People coming on. Shout out to you so much.
Starting point is 01:57:26 Who was the user-nated? Flood to Flood. Flood to flood, thank you so much. I've actually loved this. Thank you so much. And thank you for coming on once again. Reminding us of our core memories that we tried very, very hard to forget.
Starting point is 01:57:38 I really do wanna forget. Yeah, yeah, very kind. Thank you for letting me be here. But if you want to see more of Pete, you can- Check them out. Live all the time. Checking on TV slash Premiere 2. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:47 Or we are also gonna be playing some games just after this. This is gonna be our coping mechanism for everything we just did about. I think I'm gonna need some of these for coping as well. Yeah, yeah, well, We'll crack another one.
Starting point is 01:57:58 We'll go to Patreon. So Pete's gonna join us on our Patreon for some games and a little bit more content if you wanna go over to our Patreon, Patreon.com slash Trash Taste. Yeah. See more Pete and a lot more content. Joey, do the thing.
Starting point is 01:58:13 All right, hey, if you wanna support the show, head on over to patreon.com slash Tash Taste. Also follow us on Twitter, send us some memes on the subreddit and if you hate our face, listen to us on Spotify. And of course, go check out Pete. Wait, we don't need to tell you that. You guys are gonna go do that. But yeah, thanks for coming on Pete.
Starting point is 01:58:26 It was actually a pleasure. You guys are great listeners. Thank you for guiding. I mean, you do our job for us with these episodes. You make it too easy. Yes. Well, thank you so much. See you guys next week.
Starting point is 01:58:36 Bye.

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