Trash Taste Podcast - The Hardest Questions We've Answered... | Trash Taste #313

Episode Date: June 19, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ladies and gentlemen, this episode is sponsored by Veses. If you're a regular viewer of trash taste, this should be no new news to you. You know we wear Vessies every single day. I was in a typhoon last week, and I'd kid you not. My entire leg was soaked, but my vassies won off. So, guys, what are you waiting for? You get a one-year warranty on all of the shoes with 30-day returns and exchanges. No drama whatsoever.
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Starting point is 00:01:27 Isn't that every episode? Well, I guess, because we're done YouTube. and we've figured out life. Have we? It's fair to say. I think we figured it out. Of course, of course. And we thought it would be funny to basically,
Starting point is 00:01:42 you know, maybe the whole episode won't be this. Maybe it will. I don't know. These things, we never know how long we'll get stuck on something. Like farts and do they equal happiness? Can Japan power the world on them? Yeah. We've basically gone through the top ten most searched,
Starting point is 00:01:54 I guess, philosophical questions, aka like, you know, for example, number 10 is how to be happy. So, and we'll answer that. You should be killer at this. Yeah, because Joey's been doing a lot of... Tell us about... I knew this is coming, by the way. Diogenes and his...
Starting point is 00:02:10 Yeah. ...needs. Tell us all about these figures and how they're relevant to talk about it. Yes, because I'm the perfect person to ask of that kind of advice. Stoicism, you're a big fan of. I do like stoicism.
Starting point is 00:02:21 So basically we'll just go through the list and top ten and we'll have a bit of discussion about maybe why people are Googling them. Maybe we'll find out about our own answers to these questions as well, because I don't know how often you guys ask yourselves these questions. Every day.
Starting point is 00:02:35 Every day, baby. Really? That's why I take my hour long showers. I cycle through all the questions. You just procrastinating. You're just procrastinating, that's why. No, I'm not. Yes, you are.
Starting point is 00:02:45 No. Yes, you are. You're like, oh, no, I got to play more Gatcha games. I'm just going jerking in the shower a little bit for an hour. I don't want to do it. Look, you are, people are too, you know, comfortable with not being a little bit. with their thoughts. I think people should be alone with their thoughts more often.
Starting point is 00:03:05 100%. And all of these distractions, all of the technology, social media, all of these, you know, I feel like it's healthy to have some time with yourself. And like, you don't realize how little time you have with yourself sometimes, you know? Oh, we've just answered that first question, then. How to be happy? That's also... Have some more time with yourself. Yeah, I mean, how to be alone with your thoughts and be happy. That's the real question. True. Yeah. So these are like, we're going in order of most Googled.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Okay. As in starting from least Googled out of the top 10 to most. Okay. Okay. So surprisingly, number 10 is how to be happy. Is that a philosophical question? Or is that just a... Well, you can rephrase it as how do you be happy?
Starting point is 00:03:51 Or is that just a cry for help, you know. How to be... Why are we getting 15,000 monthly searches in the US alone on how to be happy. I was about to say that's not as much as I thought it was going to be. Well, I guess because they're asking AIs now. What does Google say when you Google this actually? Can you hear me? I'm actually kind of curious what answer they get.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Yeah. Let's have a look. How to, okay, NHS is number one. Why is the NHS? Enjoy yourself. Okay, well, there we can. Well, we figure it out, guys. Having a soak in the bath.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Okay, well, there we go. Oh, there you go. Meeting up with friends for coffee, doing something you're good at. Yeah. So funny because you can like, you can tell that the UK as a nation is unable to do anything without drinking because they're like, I, I'm coffee, I guess. Have I met him for a coffee. You know, there's nothing else. There's no other suggestions. How to be happy, sink a pint. Yeah. How'd be even happier? Sink another point. Let's go back to the list. Let's not get. I don't want to limit your alcohol intake. This is wrong. This is so wrong. This is so wrong. Stupid. Wow. And woke. Frankly, woke. Yeah. Woke. Well, before we start tackling the question of how to be happy, I got to ask you boys. Are you happy? Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Are you happy? I want to reframe your question. Okay. Do I know how to be happy? Yes. But are you? Well, that's a tough question. I think I'm happy.
Starting point is 00:05:23 But also, it's such a fluid state, I think, being happy. Yeah. Yeah, because you could. Because you can always be happier. If you ask me if I'm happy and I spilt my coffee like all over my like one shirt that I brought today. Yeah. I'm happy. But fuck, I'm pretty pissed off.
Starting point is 00:05:41 So I think it changes. But on the grand scheme of things, of course. Yes, retrospectively. I think, someone who is alone with my thoughts a lot. I think happy. You said it like I don't. I think happiness is a bait, you know? I think happiness is a bait.
Starting point is 00:05:56 You don't really want to be happy. You couldn't sound more British right now, brother. Happiness is a bet. You know who's the most happy in the world? Fucking probably like heroin users as soon as they shoot up. Tell me I'm wrong. Tell me I'm wrong. You're wrong.
Starting point is 00:06:12 I think when you do that, you like almost get down to that like basic instinct of getting the next survival hit. Well, that's the whole point. Maybe that's better. When you ask. Maybe I should just do heroin. I'm thinking about this. Try it out.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Just become a drug user. You'll be happy for. like a few hours, you know. Well, you'll come down to the... It's artificial, God. Yeah, it's artificial. That's the point. You know, I, uh, I know I've mentioned it a lot of time, but I think the reason why a lot of people don't like swimming is because, my God, you just have to think. You've nothing to do but think about life when you're swimming.
Starting point is 00:06:47 It's kind of boring. Why, why swimming? Because what, you got, you got nothing. You just, all you hear is fucking water in your ear. You've, because you're not running and you can't watch your favorite TV shows. Exactly. Exactly. I find that like, I think that's why I didn't like it for a long time is that I didn't like this idea of like having to force myself to just think for like 50 minutes and not have any external input. Oh, that there's your problem. You're too reliant on external inputs. All right.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Real question. Okay. When is the last time you took a shit? About five minutes ago? With no phone. Oh. When it was the last time? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:26 When is the last time you've raw dog to shit? Probably when I like accidentally left my phone behind and I'm already like, I'm too deep in it. Yeah, yeah. I'm already pucked up. Turtles mid-poke. Yeah. I gotta go. Where it's like the desperation is too real, where it's like, this is not my priority right now. Yeah, like, I think I do it more than I could like answer you. Yeah. Because I don't keep track of like, it's not that remarkable that I keep like mental
Starting point is 00:07:48 note, ah yes, that one time I took a shit without my phone, truly a joyous occasion. I had seven minutes. I have more times than not where I obviously will bring my phone in when I'm taking a shit, but I'm not on my phone the entire time. like I'll be on my phone for a little bit, and then I'll have to put it down and be like, I need to lock in. Also, you take the longest shits in the world. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:08 So if I, you know, was shitting the length that you were, you know, aka Christopher Nolan film, I would probably need to not have my phone. How long is your average shit? Um, I knew this would get to it within 10, I'm fucking how to have a minute. It's only five minutes first to get there.
Starting point is 00:08:26 I mean, you guys know how long my average shit's off. You are, you know those like graphs of like the classic bell curve. Garn is definitely on the like... On the far end. The 99th percentile. Like, you're up there, bro. I mean, it also depends on what I've been eating the night before as well.
Starting point is 00:08:44 That's a big, that's a big factor of... That's a big factor of the time commitment. Like, if you, like, if I have diarrhea, it's like a fucking shotgun blast. Then I'm like, I'll come back later. If I have spicy food, you have this thing where I swear to God, you're like, you're like, your anus just sphincter. Yeah, whatever, whatever the fuck, man. You just feel like shit.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Oh, that's the schincter. Oh, that's the muscle, right? Yeah. Yeah. It's like burning. It feels that shit and you need to go on like a, you need to go and cool down. Yes, true.
Starting point is 00:09:15 You know, you can't just stand out because you're just like, you shot your old name. You got to call down. I really do. What does this have to do with happiness again? Um, so I've been trying, I'm trying to shit less, well, why, without looking my phone. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Because, number one, it makes me go faster. And number two, like I said, there's not enough time in the day where I feel like, you know, showers is one thing. But there's not enough time in the day where you're just allowed to be alone with your thoughts and really think about how your life is going. Are you happy? Well, how the fuck can you know if you're happy if you're not, you know, actually, if you're not actually reflecting, you know? Happiness in that the reason I say happiness is a bay is because a lot of times happiness is kind of just like a feeling, you know. It's like, it's a signal to your brain. You can be happy watching a fucking TikTok video.
Starting point is 00:10:05 You can be happy getting a serotonin hit of getting a five star on Gatcha, you know? To me, what I think people should be chasing is fulfillment. I think I think fulfillment is a deeper, I'm trying to find out right words without using happy. It's elation. Open up Thesaurus.com. It's a deeper satisfaction. with yourself and your own life. Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:33 I agree because I think the biggest bait when it comes to the question of how to be happy is comparison. The moment you start comparing your life to another person's life. That's the famous saying. Yeah. Peration is the thief of Troy.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Absolutely. It's like the moment you start looking at another person's life and thinking to yourself, oh man, they're happier than me. Therefore, I am unhappy with my life. That's the biggest bait because you could be living a perfectly happy life. but if you see someone that has a quote unquote happier life than you,
Starting point is 00:11:03 whatever metric you want to look at that at, then it completely sucks up all the joy out of your life. And, you know, I agree with God, where it's like it's a matter of looking at your life retrospectively and thinking to yourself, all right, am I where I want to be physically, am I where I want to be mentally, am I where I want to be socially?
Starting point is 00:11:21 If all of that lines up to a standard that you have set for yourself, then you're happy. And if, and, you know, who gives you. a fuck if there are people who are quote-unquote happier than you. Are you happy? If the answer is yes, then you've made it. Well, it's kind of like, are you, do you have all your needs fulfilled, you know? And obviously, money is kind of, it's a massive factor in that, but it's not the only factor, you know, do you have the friends that, uh, do you have the friends that you want? Do you, are you doing something that makes you, you know, makes you feel fulfilled and content? You know,
Starting point is 00:11:55 It's, there's, it's, it's hard to recognize what's missing in your life if you don't have time to properly think about it. And to me, I'm pretty much always constantly on a journey of self-reflection to see what my, you know, what, what is missing for my life? Is anything even missing for my life? Will I get to the point where I sit down for a shit and I'm like, I'm good? I'm always happy to take a shit because it's one of those brief moments where you get a moment to yourself.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Yeah. Yeah. You get a moment free of outside worries. Yeah, yeah. That's why men love showers as well, right? That's the same thing. Love a shower.
Starting point is 00:12:37 A lot of bath. Love a bath, yeah. All that kind of stuff. It's funny because, like, this kind of ties into a book that I'm currently reading right now called The Chaos Machine. And it's this, like, nonfiction.
Starting point is 00:12:50 I forgot the name of the guy, but he's like a co-founder of a voice. And he wrote this book called The Chaos Machine. And it's basically a book about how social media has like irreversibly changed human sociology and like psychology to the point where it's like we are long, fucking far gone. Yeah. I think it can all be undone.
Starting point is 00:13:11 You think so? Yeah. I think it's too ingrained. Because like the thing, the thing with social media, and I know this is going to sound like a social media bad thing, but like the thing with social media that I have found from doing it for the longest time as with the jobs that we all have, is that how you use it and how much you use it can either be like a spoon of sugar or it could be poison, right? And it's, I think, I think in this day and age,
Starting point is 00:13:38 especially with how social media is integrated into all of our lives, regardless of if you're a content creator or not, is just, it's all about regulation and it's all about like balance, right? Like, it's, I'm not saying that like social media is inherently bad and everyone should just stop using it because, Social media has done a lot of great things for all of our lives. It's given us all jobs. It's, you know, connected families. It's connected friends.
Starting point is 00:14:01 I think it's bad. You think it's bad? Yeah, I think it's bad. Why so? It doesn't seem good. Explain. As a social media user, please explain. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:14:12 There's seldom times where I see anything of happiness on that. No, okay. That's all the more reason than you should read this book, because it also goes into how. social media companies and like Silicon Valley and stuff have like tapped into why negativity seems to proliferate more on social media than anything else. Yeah, I mean, I think in the first era of it, it was good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:40 But it has gotten, I think the problem is people who run these things can't be trusted now. And that's the biggest problem. Yeah. And that's why I feel like none of them are particularly great anymore. Why do you still use it? Pays the bills. That's my job, man. And also, you know, I think, you know, trying desperately to carve out a space that I feel is fulfilling.
Starting point is 00:15:03 You know, using it for, you know, stuff like charity, which is like another crazy thing that I would never have been exposed to that aspect of it. So there are definitely a lot of ways where I think it has been really beneficial. I think just right now as a net hole, it's most certainly by far a net negative. Oh, yeah, 100%. Well, I think the problem with social media in its current iteration is that it is too effective at hacking the brain. Yeah. You know, you talk about how it rewires your brain. I think in the first few iterations, we had that balance of being able to stay beyond social media and get all the benefits from it, but also separate ourselves when we needed to.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Yes. And now these companies have gotten so effective at hacking our brain that, you know, that we're not. that's, you know, it's kind of like you almost have to treat it like a drug, you know, where with any addicts, you, you see so many people in the modern day being like, I am going cold turkey, I'm just going to go, I'm just going to unplug for a second for a bit, right? There's, it's almost like there is never, I'm going to just go back on it a little bit. It's like, it's either, for example, with Twitter, it's either you are fully engaged or you have to uninstall that shit, you know, that there is, there's no in between anymore because it's, it just,
Starting point is 00:16:22 It's so fucking hard to manage that shit because it is addictive. It is worryingly addictive. And I truly believe when it comes to that kind of stuff too, like, you hear a lot of arguments of people saying like, oh, I don't use Twitter or like I don't use Facebook or any of these social media sites. I'm just a passive observer of what's going on. Like I'll go on to it, but I don't post anything. I don't interact with anything. I genuinely do not think there is such a thing as a passive observer or social media anymore because by being on it, you are, inadvertently being exposed to things that you otherwise probably would have never seen,
Starting point is 00:16:57 especially when it comes to things like Twitter now that it's become so fucking lopsided in terms of like extreme opinions or, you know, just of outrage that is just there to like rile up a bunch of people because it's either entertaining or in the case of Twitter it pays the bills. So like I truly do think that this healthiest thing to do is to just, as God said, just go cold turkey. But at the same time, it is a drug. And once you're in it, it's so hard to back away from.
Starting point is 00:17:28 It's so hard to just be like, all right, I'm completely out of this now. Because now it feels like you're missing out on something. Even though you're going on to those social media websites, every time you go on and you're just like, I don't like this. I don't, why am I on here? And then you immediately close it down, right? But you find yourself going back to it like, you know, being at home and opening the fridge to see a food spawn, right?
Starting point is 00:17:50 Like, it's not good. nothing has changed and you're going to be disappointed every time. But for some reason now, it's just hacked our minds to be like, I need to go onto it because the world is here now. And everything I want to learn is here, but not knowing that there are other alternatives that you can go through, right? Because those other alternatives now are just so ingrained into social media that there is no backing away from. Which is why I think for a lot of people, for the majority of the people who have access to the internet, internet, it has become this like irreversible damage, in my opinion. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Yeah, I mean, I think it's just too ingrained in society right now. Yeah. To individuals can break the cycle. But as a society, it's irreversible. As a society. Society, it is irreversible. You familiar with the utopian rat experiment? I am, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Have you heard of this guy? No. Basically, there was this guy who's a bit of an odd character. He wanted to do this thing. this experiment, which he did multiple times. Oh, John Calhoun. Oh, funny enough. He did this experiment, which was
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Starting point is 00:20:21 first order at vessi.com slash trash taste. So you know Vessi, but once again, sponsoring this episode. Back to the episode. Basically, he made a giant rat city, right? But the concept was the rats would have everything they could ever need. All water would be, would give in to them unlimited food, unlimited water. Unlimited shelter. So there was no need to do anything.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Mm-hmm. And all the rats just got really fucking weird, really quickly. Like, some of the rats would like, I don't know how to like explain this in a non-weird way. Like, they would like, alpha rats would like take over. So only like a couple of the rats were allowed to breed. And like some of the rats would like try to breed. Some of the like male rats would try to breed with male rats. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Which, you know, they've- They turn the rats gay. They turn the rats gay. And, like, some of the mice got, like, so dependent on, like, eating around other mice that they would starve if there was no other mice to eat in front of. So many, like, weird things. But at the time, it was kind of, like, trying to talk about the parallels between, like, modern-day humanity where all of our needs are taking care of. And we've become, you know, we're, like, we've become complacent. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:47 And I guess we'd turn gay if we get everything. keeps going, everyone's going to be gay. I was just to clarify, I don't think you turned gay. Just in case somebody does actually believe that. But he did this experiment multiple times and kept like upping it and upping it and upping it. But I think it was always quite a what you call it, controversial.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Yeah. You know, there wasn't much science behind it other than make the rats. Gay. Gay. It was very weird. There's a, yeah, but like also the populations would like plummet after a while. Yeah, I think it said the infancy mortality rate was 96% or something.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Yeah, because the mothers stopped trying to take care of the kids. Like, I don't know why it would happen, but essentially they would have kids and they wouldn't, like, the rats would just leave them, which is really unusual because rats normally don't do that. Yeah. But it completely changed the psychology of these rats. But I don't know how valid it is or, you know, how scientifically well-conducted it was. But it's an interesting thought experiment, at least, to be like to talk about it and bring it up. Yeah. Stuff like social media, because often compare, as a comparison to like kind of that.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Like, we've reached the final stage of humanity, right? All we need now is each other's validation. We don't need any other needs. Yeah, yeah. The next step is just having AI, just take over everything. And we don't need to think, we don't need to feel, we just get fed stuff, get fed content, get fed entertainment, get fed whatever. Yeah, Wally is a documentary. At this point, that's how we're all going to end up.
Starting point is 00:23:33 But I think this was quite like, you know, when it was in the 60s or 80s whenever it happened. It was like very alarmist because they were like, look, we're going to go extinct, just like the rats if we don't like take care. Interesting. Do you guys think AI is going to wipe out humanity? Do you think there's a possibility? Is that or was that just sci-fi? Sci-fi drivel? I mean, I recently saw a video of like a bunch of people who work in the AI field
Starting point is 00:23:59 and have been working in the AI field who straight up admitted being like, yeah, they're going to take over soon. And I'm like, if the people making this shit is saying that, then I'm fucking worried. But like, obviously I think there is going to be some kind of like revolution or whatever it might be where the common man will be, like, we're not going to let that happen. Fuck that shit and try to fight over it.
Starting point is 00:24:22 But how effective will that be? I don't know. At this point, maybe it's already too late because too many people are too complacent with using AI for everyday needs. Well, I think one of the bigger red flags is like when the US government was asking for like AI companies,
Starting point is 00:24:38 which one of you is okay with us using AI for military targets? And only one of them was like, I'd rather you not. And then all the other ones were like, sure. I'm like, how much? Yeah. 100% go ahead, man.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Yeah, what can possibly go wrong? Yeah. That feels like the beginning of the end. Yeah. Like, I don't think that we should have the drones be piloted by AI. Yeah. I honestly think humans are going to wipe each other out before AI does. We'll find a way.
Starting point is 00:25:06 We've tried, you know. Yeah. It's gotten close. I think it's really good at, like, surviving in small groups. Yeah. Like, I think there'll always be like a couple of people that make it. I don't think I'll be one of them. I've heard about the thought experiment.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Is it Rokos Basilisk? Oh, what's this? Baselisk. No, I never heard of it. So it was this thought experiment. Oh, there it is. Damn, you're good. Damn, I'm good.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Okay, so thought experiment, which states that there could be an artificial super intelligence in the future that, while otherwise benevolent, would punish anyone who knew of its potential existence. Oh, I have seen this. So this started out as, I think, like a creepy pastor or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was marketed as the Thoris experiment that if you know this, then you're fucked, right? Because you have the, it's the forbidden knowledge.
Starting point is 00:25:52 It's like the game. You've opened the point Pandora's lost the game now. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, it's like if there is an AI superintelligence that has taken over humanity, right? It'll be benevolent to whoever supported its existence. That's interesting. But by knowing this, if you know that Rokos Basclist is coming, if you know this, you know this super intelligence is coming. If you are not doing everything in your best interest to further its
Starting point is 00:26:19 existence, then it'll kill you. Then you will not be benevolent to you and it will torture you, right? So that's so fucking scary. That's kind of scary. That's a cosmic horror. So everyone who is watching this podcast, now that you know this forbidden knowledge, what are you going to do about it? We killed you all. Are you now going to bow down to the future AI overlords? You can't faint ignorance anymore because you now are, I've been given the forbidden knowledge. Because it knows that you know now. Yes. I want to read that, um, I have no voice and I'm a scream, is it? Is that what it is? Oh, I have no mouth and I'm a scream. Yeah, that is an amazing short story. That's such a bang title, man. It's such a bag of time. And the cover is sick as fuck as well. Yeah. Yeah, this thing is
Starting point is 00:27:04 easily one of the best short stories I've ever read. Um, if you don't know, Harlan Ellison, who's like one of the greatest sci-fi writers of our generation, wrote this short story called I Have No Mouth on Our Screen. Basically, it's about this set way in the future about this AI called M, AM, that is essentially taken over all of the world and has killed most of humanity except for five people. And it has trapped these five people in this never-ending AI world that like continuously tortures these people while they're trying to like escape from it. But it's a very bleak and very scary thing. And it's fucking insane because I think you wrote this in like the 60s or something. Yeah. And it sounds scarily a lot like what might happen soon.
Starting point is 00:27:50 This is like the, I heard from some tech bros that, uh, I, I, I know people and they were tell me that there's like a big thing of like, they're genuinely like, yeah, you got to get, you got to get in the upper class before the AI takeover. Why the upper class? Because they there's a strong belief with a lot of these tech bros that like once AI hits like AGI like full super intelligence if you're not in the top
Starting point is 00:28:18 you're going to be in the permanent underclass oh shit so they all say like not going to make it if you're not going to be you're not going to be in the upper class Jesus Christ so they all now the big thing is like 9-96 you've got to work 9 to 9 6 days a week
Starting point is 00:28:34 to make it otherwise you're going to be in the permanent underclass Who came up with those metrics? I look, all I'm saying is it's fucking convenient for all these big companies, isn't it? Yeah, I bet. It's very convenient for these big companies.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Everyone now is working very hard. No more play pens at Google now. No, it's fucking work. We're going to continue paying like shit, but hey, you'll be in the good graces of the AI overlord one day. Yeah, so depressing. So what is happiness?
Starting point is 00:29:00 I don't know, but we know what happiness isn't. What isn't it? Everything we discussed Yeah. It's pretty bad. The future. That was a big tangent that we went on. But yeah, submit to your AI overlords.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Why not? It's coming. Yep. All right. Let's look at the next question. The next question is, how do you know? Isn't this a... That's a great question.
Starting point is 00:29:21 I was going to say this for shit. I was going to say with this shit. That's a great question because I can answer that easily. I'm pretty sure there's a Vsorles video. I don't. I don't know. You don't? Bro, we've had, how many episodes of trash taste?
Starting point is 00:29:33 I definitely don't know. We don't know. I have more evidence. My favorite thing is recently, Joey, you said, what was it about figs? You said they were like dried dead. Oh, yeah, yeah. I thought I knew. And I did it.
Starting point is 00:29:47 And I did it. Completely wrong. And I didn't know either. I think I said prunes with dried figs or something. Completely wrong on that, my bad gang. Mudan's going to add a sound from now on. I'm just saying this to Muran. He's adding it now.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Here is the fact check sound. So audio listeners, you'll know when we get fact checked. Yeah. It's going to be dinging every 20. That's not good for audio listeners. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. It's like the bullshit alarm. Like, we just said some bullshit.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Can they just ding us when we say something fatually incorrect? Possibly. It's still going to be a lot of this episode. How do you know? I don't, I don't. We don't know, right? That's the scary thing. I think the scary part about being an adult is that you realize how many people around you
Starting point is 00:30:31 don't really know what they're talking about. A hundred percent. And how much like just, people kind of just go with the flow for a lot of things. I think that's also how we have so many like, you know, when you hear about these terrible big disasters that happen, just a lot of people just being like,
Starting point is 00:30:46 sure, I'll go with it. Did you all have that kind of like epiphany moment where I think I was maybe like 22, 23, you know, going into adulthood, quote unquote. And, you know, before then, when you were in like primary school
Starting point is 00:31:01 or when you were a kid, like you'd look at the adults and you'd look at your parents and you'd be like, man, they're going to figure it out. They figured it out. They know so much. And then you get to that one moment
Starting point is 00:31:10 where you're just like, damn, all y'all are dumb as hell. Like, you don't know what the hell. There's a constant anxiety growing up as a kid knowing that you're dumb than everyone. Yeah. But you know that you're, you know, just lacking experience.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Yeah. And then I got to McDonald's and I was like, yeah. It's not that they're smarter than you. It's just that they're smarter at convincing you that they're not as dumb as well. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:31 I don't know. Do you go to that next one? We don't know. I don't know, man. We don't know anything about anything. You don't. We can only make speculations. You know, I let someone smarter than me know more than me.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Yeah, we are just three YouTube. I think the problem is that we have too many people who think they know in positions where they're telling you how to think. I don't know. Yeah, nothing even comes up when you type it in. Yeah, I don't know how this was that. Whatever. Let's get that's going to show. But I think the important thing about this question is that you should constantly question if you do know.
Starting point is 00:32:03 I think the important thing is not knowing. I think the important question, I'm thinking the important thing is actually asking yourself if you're actually correct. Because I think that's the one thing that's missing a lot these days, you know, is people being maybe a bit too sure
Starting point is 00:32:17 they know. Yeah, like Joey thinks that things are dried prunes? Yeah, something like that. Aren't figs dried figs? No, no, no, prunes are dried figs. I think that's what I said. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:30 I thought that's what it was, but clearly not. Yeah, it was me because I remember when we pulled it up, I was like, this doesn't look like it, but I guess I don't know. Yeah, but both of you were like, oh, yeah, I didn't know. I don't know, I'm not a fig expert. Clearly, I'm not either.
Starting point is 00:32:43 I don't even know where figs come from. I don't know how you make a fig. They look so, they look so funky. Now that I don't think about it, I don't think I've ever eaten a fig. You've definitely eaten a fig. You think? I have a giant bag of dried frigs. Frigs in my house.
Starting point is 00:32:55 But how do you know? I don't know. Yeah, well, what is a fig? What is a fig is? What is the fig is? I don't know why. I've seen it. I've eaten it, I've held it.
Starting point is 00:33:05 I'm like, I don't get it. What is it? Why don't get what this isch? I said, I asked any what a fig was, and I didn't fact check this. So I'm just going to, is it dried honeycomb? I don't even know if that's wrong. No! That's even more worse than it.
Starting point is 00:33:22 I thought I had a fucking, you know how like when I look at an apple and I'm like, yeah, it's an apple. Yeah. When I look at a fig, I'm like, I don't get it. I don't know what that is. Kai, Kai, can we sell to this once and four? What is, what is a, what is a, what is a apple? Like it doesn't make any sense to me.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Okay. Oh, it's just a fucking fruit. No, I know that. Yeah. What, you didn't know it was a fruit? No, I, no, I didn't actually. You've definitely had figs. I've definitely had figs.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Wait, okay, then question, what is the prune? I, you're, your mother. I thought it was a dried fig, but it's not. Is a dried fig just a dried plum? So is a dried fig just a fig then? Yeah. But that's just confusing. This entire fucking.
Starting point is 00:34:04 argument came out because I was like, why are raisins not called dried grapes? And then suddenly we're just picking and choosing what we're going to fucking call different things dried versus just the actual fruit name. I think raisins like one of the only ones. Because dried apples, dried apples, dried oranges, dried oranges. How often do you be dried apples? I've never had a dried apple. No, I have. I have. Yeah, dried apples are delicious. Like the crunchy ones. Yeah, the apple chips. They're great. I think there's a dehydrated. Oh, for fuck's sake. What's the difference between dehydrated? Drieslis.
Starting point is 00:34:34 I don't know. Angia, also known as dry figs. Wow, okay. Okay, so there is a word for it. You know, I just don't see, like, figs often enough, so that's why I'm, like, confused by their existence.
Starting point is 00:34:46 I'm like, I don't get it. Yeah. Yeah. Because I'm not Mediterranean. We know. Should we go to the next one? Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Next one. What is a dried freak? What is the meaning of life? Fucking hell. Man, people love asking these esoteric questions. What does Google say? Can we find out? Yeah, what is it? What is it?
Starting point is 00:35:06 What is the meaning of life? Yep. The meaning of life can be derived from philosophical and religious contemplation and scientific inquiries about existence. No, it's 42. Now for fuck, say, Joe. Joey, that's such a boomer fucking reference, man. Yeah, come, come on, Joe. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:35:23 That is a boomer reference. What do you mean? That's like a black border white text caption, boomer reference. Are they like the demotivational posters? Yeah. Yeah. Brother, should I just hit them with the, all your bases are belong to us fucking like Jesus. I love hitchhiker's guy, all right?
Starting point is 00:35:44 It's a great book. The meaning of life. Apparently it was the first use of the expression was an 1833. Wow. We really never questioned it before then. No. Damn. 2,000 years. We were just like...
Starting point is 00:35:58 Wait, are you really telling me that like... Nobody questioned me. some of the first like philosophers in the world never thought that to themselves? I think the phrase meaning of life. I'm sure like what is purpose or what is all this. Oh, I see. Yeah. Because I was about to say, I don't think like...
Starting point is 00:36:11 Look, I think the moment you get like, you're safe, you start thinking about it. Like, I'm sure when you're looking aristocrat, whatever you're like... When was the first time you heard this question or ask this question? I don't know. When I ran hitchhackers going to the galaxy. I feel like you hear it pretty young. Yeah, do you know, I actually like... Do you remember?
Starting point is 00:36:29 Yeah. you do remember. It was the one Simpsons episode where Homer meets God. And I... Do you remember that? I do remember that episode. I was probably my first interaction with that. And I was just like, oh, I've never thought about that before. That, if I'd never
Starting point is 00:36:44 saw that Simpson's episode, would I have ever thought what is the meaning of life? I don't know. Of course you would have. It would just been later. Yeah, it would have been much later. There would have been a point in your life where you're just like, man, what's the point of this? You never thought that to some? I'm sure the rats thought about that. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Is it what is the meaning of your life or just what is the meaning of life in general? Life all encompassing. Does life need a meaning? I don't think it does. I mean, personally, I don't think it does. I mean, that seems like, that's, that seems, uh, doesn't pay the bill, does it? You know, that's just like when you, asking the question doesn't pay the bills either. You know, I think it's quite, I think it's a pretty pointless question.
Starting point is 00:37:27 I also think it is like a very human-centered question of life. Yeah. You know, I think we think of it exclusively through a human lens. Yeah, I don't think people, I don't think the dog is concerned. Yeah, it's a question that was born out of, like, intelligence. And by intelligence, I mean, like, like, like, not hyper-intelligence, but, like, you know, the fact that humans are hyper-intelligence. Well, we don't, but, like, you know, the human... have just grown to the point where it's just like,
Starting point is 00:37:59 we've figured so much of how the world works to the point where we have to like stop and question ourselves and being like, uh, so why am I here? It makes no sense. We can barely define what life is. Yeah. It's like... That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:38:14 That's why I think it's a really stupid question because, A, there's no actual answer. And life, the word life is just all too encompassing to point to one thing and being like, that's the meaning of it. I think you could answer as a general long. It's quite hard.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Everyone's life is different. And depending on how you feel about... I'm not too fucking sober for this, man. Yeah, how you feel about it. Hey, can we get some beers in here, please? Um, what was your meaning? What was your meaning of your life? Meaning of my life?
Starting point is 00:38:41 Yeah, you guys' life. What would you say as the meaning of your life? Uh, to care for myself, to care for other people who care for me. Nah. Wow. I just got my whole existence rejected. With a nah. Damn.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Well, I guess I just kill myself, God. That's too safe. I want a better answer. Well, what's your answer there? I don't have one. No, I don't know. I think, uh, shit. To shit. That's yours.
Starting point is 00:39:13 I like this post and it was like, I was like, I only wear brown pants now. So that it never happens again. What the fuck? That's a great philosophy. It was a picture of it. a cat with a fedora. Like, looking down and it goes, I was like something like,
Starting point is 00:39:32 I wear brown pants to never remember or to never forget what I did that day or something. It was ridiculous. I was like, I think that is Joey's purpose. That is my purpose. So like shitting himself memes and also talk about shitting himself. I do like a lot of those memes.
Starting point is 00:39:49 I don't know. What is, what is? Yeah, what's the meaning of your life? God, do you have a good answer while I think or games in it to get that next battle you know what I'm saying sometimes I think like is it enough what is enough
Starting point is 00:40:07 like if I just consume my entire life and I'm like whatever I don't really I don't really take but I don't really give but I just watch a bunch of anime yeah was my life was it worth it meaningful was there a purpose to it to be a power passive observer.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Almost. I mean, I think some people do kind of, you know, reject themselves from participating. Yeah, definitely. Is that, is that, did I live a life? Well, I- Do you want a cheesy answer? Give me a cheesy answer. All right.
Starting point is 00:40:40 And then we'll do the dumb answers. All right. I'll give you the cheesy answer. Go on, then. Connor, you make your own meaning. Oh. That's where, this is where like the text. I came.
Starting point is 00:40:51 It's where the fields and the ocean shots would go and it reveals. And it would be like, that's true. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, genuinely, that's kind of like my life philosophy. Yeah. Yeah, I think my goal is to just have a net positive on my impact on things. I don't know what that means. But what does that mean?
Starting point is 00:41:15 What does that mean? What does that mean? I hope that the people I interact with and the people that have some contact with me in life end up better off because of it and not worse off. Because there are some people where you're like, God damn, I really wish I never met them. I really wish they weren't in power or something like that. You're like, goddamn, this is rough. Humanity would have been better off without them. So basically, your answer is essentially the same as mine, where it's like you want to care for people who care about you whilst also caring for yourself, right? To some extent, to some extent.
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Starting point is 00:42:55 what's wrong with black? I don't like the black one. Why? Why? You just tell me about how you care about everyone, Jerry. Not everyone. Oh my God. I'm joking.
Starting point is 00:43:05 I'll have the black one. Yeah, please. Yeah, I know. Yeah, I think, I think like serious answer, like, it's all, like, the phrase meaning and life is all too encompassing and it's too subjective. It's too, too many factors, too many caveats to, again, point at one thing and go like, that's the meaning of all life. Like, you can give your answer to say, like, this is the meaning of my life or where I value meaning in my life based
Starting point is 00:43:32 on where I am in my life currently. Because I'm sure if you ask that same question 10 years ago or 20 years from now, answer might be completely different. You know, you might get to, like, I'm saying like, you know, the meaning of life for me now is to take care of myself and care for the people who care for me. But I don't know. In 20 years time, I might be a jaded all fuck and be like, no, fuck other people. I only care about myself, you know? So that's where you got to kind of stumble through this, you know, tumultuous existence to be like, to find the meaning of it. And then, you know, at the end of it, on your deathbed, you might answer that, you might try to answer that same question, be like, fuck to find out. You'll only figure it out when it's too late.
Starting point is 00:44:10 You'll find out when you're dead. And at that point, you can't even ask the question. So why even bother asking you now? I love all the philosophy questions. I find the meaning of life one of the most boring. That is boring. I agree. Because it doesn't go anywhere. It's so boring you to drink a beer just to suffer it. Yeah, totally.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Well, if you see what's next in the list? Let's see what they have. What is the scientific method? Is that a philosophical question? Isn't this? What does that even mean? What is the scientific method of what? I guess like just the rigorous nature in which you would conduct scientific
Starting point is 00:44:42 program. Well, actually, this question is actually the answer to how do you know? You know. Oh, yeah. The scientific method. We have answered one of the philosophical questions already. We figured it out.
Starting point is 00:44:56 We're one step closer to the meaning of life. Activation question, hypothesis, experimentation, conclusion results. This question reminds me of like one of my favorite quotes from one of my favorite comedians, Tim Minchin. He said this, like, amazing quote that I think is very true. He said, he said something along the lines of like, um, science adjust its views based on what's observed, whereas faith is the denial of observation
Starting point is 00:45:22 so that belief can be preserved. And I think that very much explains the scientific method. Like the scientific method is we observe things with this pre-existing notion of we think it is this thing. And then we look at it, we reflect upon it and go, is it to our assumption or is it against our assumption? If it's to our assumption, then we go, okay, cool. We know that that is more correct than what we thought.
Starting point is 00:45:46 If it's wrong, we change it up. We go, well, we thought it was this. But turns out it wasn't what we thought it was. So we will change everything based on what we have observed. And then we just keep building and developing on that. Yeah, but, you know, the problem with that is my favorite YouTuber said something different. What are your YouTuber so? Than what the experts say.
Starting point is 00:46:06 Which, which YouTuber is that? Could be. It's all of them. I listen to this one podcast now, like, yeah, I don't know about these expert things. Yeah, I saw this one podcast that said, of plums were dried figs. I just think that's fact. Yeah, I did too, to be honest. And it's like, well, my favorite YouTuber said,
Starting point is 00:46:23 I'm M. Mossbreechrist. I'm there one-piece tourists. Yeah, I heard Luffy D. Monkey was the best character, you know, and I have to believe him. All right, what's the next question? Yeah, that was a weird question. Who is searching these questions up, by the way? Okay. What to do?
Starting point is 00:46:38 This is probably like an extension one. This just sounds like a bad Google translation. What is philosophy? This is terrible, too. is God real? Is God real? Are you agnostic, atheist, religious? I don't know. I've never thought I've ever asked you guys.
Starting point is 00:46:55 I keep forgetting the word for it. What's the... Is it agnostic? Agnostic is that you believe there's... Actually, there's two terms of agnostic. There's one where you're like, sure, there's some form of God, but you don't know what it is. And then there's one where...
Starting point is 00:47:12 Oh, I'm driving. You can have it, Nabi. Yes, sir. There you go. Yes, all. And then there's one version where you're not sure if there's a God, but you think there's something. Thank you, Mary. Jesus Christ. Yeah, I think I'm in that instance agnostic, where it's like...
Starting point is 00:47:32 Talks about philosophy. The meaning of life, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, I think I'm agnostic in that instance. So, like, I don't necessarily believe in God or a God, but I do believe. in some kind of higher being, no matter what structural form it may come in. You know, because like, you know, I very much, if I had to say what religion I am, then I'd probably say I'm like a Shintoist in that sense where it's like, I believe in a lot of the Shinto beliefs of like reincarnation and that like each thing in the world has some kind of spiritual God attached to it. So you need to treat it with the
Starting point is 00:48:10 utmost respect. And in turn, you have to, you know, and that also ties into a lot of like just traditional Buddhist beliefs where like it's all about like, you know, self-reflection and self-improvement and, you know, yeah, and all that kind of stuff. So like, but I don't, you know, sit there and think to myself, well, I've got a door for the big man upstairs. Like, I'm not, I'm not that kind of person. So, yeah, so. Yeah, so. Yeah, I guess it's agnostic in that sense. Yeah, I guess I'm agnostic. I definitely had a fucking, I'm 14 and I'm edgy moment where I was like, I'm an atheist. There's no such thing as God. Be, be, be, boo. And if you believe in it, then you're stupid. It's Like, I obviously don't-
Starting point is 00:48:45 Being atheist was like the cool thing to do online a long time ago. I would argue it's some people still think that. I don't know. I feel like there's a lot of, I don't know how to explain it. This is like religious posing online. Mm-hmm. Where I think that even though I think the rates of religious people, and especially in younger people, is less than before.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Mm-hmm. On social media, there's a lot who like talk a lot about, yeah, it's all about God. it's all about God and it's like, which God and which you practice? Yeah. You know? Yeah, because like, you know, I went to, for high school, I went to a Catholic college. So like, we had to go to Mass and like, you know, go to church at the starting end of each school term.
Starting point is 00:49:29 And, you know, I personally don't really believe in a lot of it. But like, I'm not going to sit there and being like, what the fuck ever. Like, you know, I respect people's beliefs. I'm not saying like, I'm not saying like pick one, all others are dog shit. Yeah. I think that's very close mind. Like, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, I get the question for sure.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Yeah, I think honestly what's most important, because there is no right answer, you know, is I think what's most important about this kind of like question or any question around this when it comes to, like, religion, is I don't think it's right to judge other people's beliefs. 100%. That's the biggest, that's my, that is my personal philosophy. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:50:08 You know, as long as there. beliefs don't have a negative effect on people around them. Yeah. I agree. That's pretty much it for me. Yeah, because I have a lot of friends, you know, from all over the world who practice all sorts of different religions. And I don't have a problem with any which one of them because they're respectful about it and they're respectful for other people's opinions that may be differing to theirs.
Starting point is 00:50:33 And I think that's the perfect balance of all of it. It's like if, you know, if you believe in one thing and it works for your life and, you see another person doing something else that works for their life and you respect each other mutually then all the more power to everyone. I think that's like the perfect way to do it. But we all know that's not how the world works,
Starting point is 00:50:52 unfortunately. But, you know, hopefully. I use just a lot of fucking effort. Yeah. That's the reason why I didn't want to do it. I was like, church, every fucking Sunday. Are you fucking kidding me? I don't want to fucking go to church.
Starting point is 00:51:06 I can barely wake up on a fucking Sunday. I don't want to go to a church. I want to wake. The only time I'm waking up early on Sunday. Sundays to watch Pokemon and Digital on TV, bro. Yeah, I think that's why I didn't really got into it. I was like,
Starting point is 00:51:19 sounds like a lot of fucking effort. Yeah. But I will say, I think there are little bits and pieces of each religion that you can maybe personally look at and use it to self-reflect on your life or use it as a learning method. I think there is absolutely nothing wrong with that
Starting point is 00:51:35 because, you know, there's so many different, like, philosophies around it and so many different, like, teachings around that where like the entire package may not necessarily fit one to one with your life. But, you know, there's nothing wrong with like taking a verse out of the Bible or taking, you know, something from a different religion or whatever and being like, oh, I reflect with that a lot. Or like, you know, that that made me think positively or think constructively about my own life. And, you know, I think that's, I think that's the best way
Starting point is 00:52:04 to do it personally. And I've done that personally as well. Yeah. Yeah. I've called in favor from the big man. Yeah. You know, when you're a kid and you like really need to pass a test. Yeah. I remember I'd be like, fuck, I'm not even religious, but I'm going to pray. Just in case he is there. And he might help me out.
Starting point is 00:52:22 And then like, and then you don't pass and you're like, all right, all right. She's so fake. I'm calling him favors. He doesn't have been listening. Real, real question. Asteroid on the way. Okay. Am I praying? Are you, are you, you know, don't matter what are you belief. Are you taking the risk
Starting point is 00:52:39 of not praying? I'm probably without a prayer. Are you? I'm gonna cover every single religion. I'm gonna pray for each one. I don't know who's right, but I'm covering my basis. I'm speed dialing everyone.
Starting point is 00:52:53 I really didn't think it was gonna be that one that worked. Everyone did in this Discord call right now. That's gonna be the, that would be like the real test of if someone's actually atheist. You know, the whole world's about to come to an end. Do you take, you like, double down and you're like, nah. Do you sit there and just feel like, it is inevitable?
Starting point is 00:53:10 Or do you like, like, all right, you know what? I don't lose anything by just, you know, doing a cheeky prayer. Yeah. Totally. If it makes you feel better than all the more power of your brother. If I was throwing, asteroid, I think I'd just burn a bunch of shit and drink a beer.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Just watch half my shit burn. No, I thought you said in a previous episode, you'd start live streaming. I would live stream me doing that. Yeah. Yeah. If I had internet. All right. Next question. What is love? What is love? Baby, no.
Starting point is 00:53:41 I don't know, what is love? What did, uh, what, uh, what, uh, what, uh, what are the rest of the lyrics of that song? So maybe, maybe there's, don't hurt me no more. No likey. Me one love. Maybe the, uh, maybe the answer that question is in the lyrics of the song itself. Yeah, let's, uh, let's refer to the song lyrics of what is love by I don't know who. Love is the feeling of being accepted by Hadaway.
Starting point is 00:54:05 Uh, I don't know why you're not there. I give you my love, but you don't care. So what is right and what is wrong? Give me a sign. Oh, the, the motherfucker doesn't even know himself. Oh, man. Brother. I guess that's why he's asking the question. Why are you clipping us like this, bro? This is where the Google search comes from. How do we know this is actual philosophical, philosophical question? People aren't just like Googling the song. Hanoi, why'd you blue balls us like that, brother? We want to know just as much as you. I don't know. What is love? The, the, is love real? Is love real? Yeah. Um, um,
Starting point is 00:54:41 Well, I love. I think I am loved. Love is like beer. You just really need it. You just really need it. What's the quote? It's like love is like a fart. If you have to force it, it's probably shit. I've never heard that question before.
Starting point is 00:54:58 You never heard of that quote? Why is everything you know about shitting yourself, man? Everything about you is about shitting yourself. Refer back to previous question. What is the meaning of life? What is love is fucking Joey Browning himself. It's the brown note. I love that shit.
Starting point is 00:55:13 Yeah, it's just like, Joey's just like, yeah, I'll fuck my favorite quote of all time. I shit, therefore I am. Yeah, it's just, you are the sum of your poop. Joey just like what? Like that's why Joe went to a safari just because you can watch an elephant just shit down his leg. I did watch, I did watch giraffe's shit and it was amazing to see like shit fall from such a height. Why are people Googling this anyway? Because because they don't feel like they're loved.
Starting point is 00:55:41 I think when I was like, when I was like 13, I didn't know what it was. Because you hear about it and all the fucking things. You're like, I don't know what this feeling is. I haven't been on this earth long enough to figure it out. So I think I must have pretty helped. So do you know what it is? Yeah, I think I do now. But obviously you're a dumb kid and you don't know.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Well, what is it then? Well, I can't, I can't give you a tangential like. You just think you knew what it was. I can't. Yeah, it's like an internal feeling. It's like when I try to grab the meaning and explain it, It's like, it's like sand. It falls through it.
Starting point is 00:56:13 It's, it's a powerful emotion. Oh, bad answer. Oh, I'm sorry. God isn't real. You didn't lock in on that one. What's your favorite love song? What the fuck is this? My favorite love song?
Starting point is 00:56:29 There's no good love song. There's no good love song? No. Shit. What the fuck are you talking about? There is no love in the world. It is like universally the most sung about fucking subject. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:41 I think Bruno Mars solo-handedly talks about sex more than any other thing, and he's made way too many songs. Well, that's a form of love, isn't it? No, that's lust, actually. That's last last. I got my dick in house. It's like, well, Bruno, chill, bro. Can we stop talking about this.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Every song, dude. My favorite love song? I'm just trying to think. Hmm. Do you remember the first time you thought you were in love? Maybe like a first, like, relationship or something, and you're like, shit, is this what all the love songs, like, talk about? My first girlfriend in, like, when I was, like, nine years old,
Starting point is 00:57:18 I was like, damn, this is love. Yeah, why we get so fucked up about, like, a breakup when we're, like, 15 to a level that is, like, incomprehensible? Well, it's because that's all you fucking know when you're 15. It's like, I'm, like, fucking distraught what I get punked up with. And I'm like, why do I, I knew her, like, barely any? Why was I so invested in this? I, you don't-
Starting point is 00:57:41 You can't trust kids. Yeah, you don't even need to like break up. You just have like a crush. And then your crush is moving away. And you're like, damn. I will never love again like I love this one girl. Yeah, like, why do we do that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:55 Well, it's because, it's because like you're, you're saying that now because you're thinking about it like retrospectively as a fucking 29-year-old, right? But when you're 15, like, first of all, time feels so much fucking longer. Yeah. Like, you know, two months now feels like nothing. But two months when you were 15, like, seeing this girl, bro, it felt like the entire fucking year. You know how I know that? Because the first month I got a RuneScape membership. Yeah. I felt eternal that month. That month felt endless. Yeah, but now, like, a month long Runecape membership just goes like that, right? Yeah. So that's why it's like, time feels shorter. And it's also because when you're 15, your entire mind is like in your fucking social circle in school or, fuck, you know, you. playing games at home, right? That was the only, that was your two modes. You told me such a funny face.
Starting point is 00:58:42 What? I was burping. Oh. God did the funniest funny. I used to say. Sorry, Jerry. I thought you're making faces of my fucking explanation. Like, I'll watch back on the episode later. Yeah, you know, when you're 15, you're in two modes. You're either at home playing games or you are interacting with people at school, whether you like it or not, right? So, like, that is like, a big point.
Starting point is 00:59:08 portion of your life. And then when you take into account that two months feels like a fucking eternity, seeing a girl or having a crush on a girl for two months is like your entire life at that point. It encompasses so much of your life that you think to yourself, it's all over, brother. I will, this was the greatest feeling of elation that I've had in my 15 years of being on this planet. And now it is all gone. And I am a miserable sack of shit. Bro, also at that age, like, a girl could smile at me, and I'd be like, I think I'm in love. And I'm hard. It's, uh, in, in that kind of time period, you are, you're like such a newborn to having any kind of like positive interact.
Starting point is 00:59:53 At least I was any kind of like positive interaction with people who either weren't in your immediate family. Yeah. Or just your bros. Yeah, I still like didn't know how to talk to women. Yeah. I was like, I don't know what you guys do. I don't know. If a girl was just like mildly nice to me, I'd be like,
Starting point is 01:00:11 I'm in love. Oh, fuck. That's my wife. I'm happy now. What the fuck? I think I'm in love. Oh, is this the fucking butterflies? And then you're like, you know, you have that first breakup,
Starting point is 01:00:21 even if it's not even, even if you're not even dating. Yeah. Maybe you'd lose them somehow. Yeah. And then you're just like, shit, man. I'm never going to feel this again. Yeah. What does it mean to be happy?
Starting point is 01:00:32 That's probably the average age of all the people asking that first question. All right. Do you believe, not in love, but do you believe in love at first sight? No. No. I don't. I think. Why?
Starting point is 01:00:45 But if your wives ask you, you have to say yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I know the game. Because they love you at first side. Right? Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 01:00:57 Yeah, no, I don't believe in love at first side because I think love is a, feeling that takes time to develop. It's like a, it's like a stew. Yeah. Can't have a stew right away. Yeah. Kind of a stew at first sight. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:11 You got to, you got to mix it, you got to take care of it, and you got to let it like, simmer to a point where you're like, it is done. This is love. Like, I think the whole love at first sight thing is not love, it's attraction. It's like you are attracted to someone, but that is not the same as loving someone, you know. Like, you could be in a fully committed a relationship and still feel attractive. to other people or other people be attracted to you, but that doesn't equate to love. You know what I mean?
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Starting point is 01:03:24 Go on then. All right. Sometimes you are, as you grew up, you can sometimes tell, tell if you're gonna get along with the person. Just like that. It doesn't even, I'm not even talking about love anymore. I'm talking about like the vibe check. 100% right. You ever look to someone and, that I haven't said a single word,
Starting point is 01:03:44 it's just the energy that they exude and you're just like, bam. Totally. We'd get along. Totally. And you can't put your finger on it, but you're just like, you know, right?
Starting point is 01:03:52 You fucking know that, you know, they'd be one of your bros or, you know, you'd really get along with this one person. I think there is, I think there is, maybe not love, but definitely, I think there is something that goes that could go deep in an attraction where you're just like,
Starting point is 01:04:12 holy shit, I can't grasp why we'd go well together, but sometimes you tell that within the first five minutes or even the first meeting. See, I would still debate that that is a form of attraction. Maybe because at that point, it's not, because I think there's more to attraction than just like sexual attraction, you know what I mean? Like, you can be attracted in a completely, like, as you're, said, like, in a completely platonic way, where, like, there is something about the vibe or something about this person that instinctually makes you trust them because you feel some kind
Starting point is 01:04:48 of, like, I guess the word would be, like, platonic attraction or something about them that is attracting you to them in a way that you want to be close to them. I still think that's a form of attraction. And then, because I totally get what you mean, because, like, you know, some of my best friends. That was the kind of the vibe I had with them. You know, it's like, immediately I was like, okay, something about you, I know we're going to get along. And then, you know, most times than not, it ends up forming into a brotherly love, right? But I think that's still a form of attraction, because love is something that it needs to, is an evolved form of attraction, right? Love is the point where you know all of the good sides about this person, all the terrible sides about this person,
Starting point is 01:05:32 and everything else in between. And when you look at the entire picture, you can still come out the other end as I still like you, I'm still attracted to you, whether it be sexually or platonically, whatever it might be, I think that's love.
Starting point is 01:05:46 When you can accept someone for who they are and everything about them, that is like the ultimate form of love, I think. What do you think? It's tough. Throwing it over to you.
Starting point is 01:06:00 Oh shit. That's quite a lot. Yeah. I mean, I think you're basically on the right point. It's hard because when you guys get serious, I'm like, shit, I actually got to lock in here. Fuck. I don't know. I can't just say dumb shit.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Fuck. Oh, okay. Yeah. What are your think? I think you're pretty spot on. I think it's a, I mean, I don't know, the whole love at first side is child. You think it's childish? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:26 Yeah, I think so too. But it's like, I also, to some extent, think about, we have some friends, right? right, that you hang out with who you think, damn, every time I hang out with them is really fucking fun. But then I think to myself, I'm like, some days I really don't want to hang out and I am not in a mood to hang out.
Starting point is 01:06:43 And I wonder if someone had met me that time, it's like, you're getting a different experience to be like what I would have been if I was on like, good form, I guess, you know? Like, if I'm just fucking tired and shit, and I'd be like, no shit, you don't want to hang out of me you don't think I'm like fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:55 I'm like, fuck off. I'm tired. So it's, there's a lot of factors to this that are quite complicated. Yeah, but I would argue as well, that like if you ever find yourself in a position like that where you are hanging out with someone that you're like oh I love this person like you know they're so fun to hang out with you know time flies with them and then you know maybe one moment you'll see someone slip up maybe or you know be
Starting point is 01:07:17 caught in a bad mood or whatever it might be and you think to yourself oh man they're not being really fun right now to be around I'm not enjoying myself being with them but I think love is when you can see all of that and you still decide to go back to them I think that I think that's that's love. Yeah. You know, being like, I know you have some shitty moments. I know you have some great moments, but at the end of it all, I still love you. Yeah. I mean, for me, it's like, kind of similar. It's on the right track. For me, like, love, um, as the man who's just about to get married and the man who, like, I guess is married. I don't know why I said, I guess. What's up? Bangus in a show?
Starting point is 01:07:56 Love is being accepted for who you are fully and accepting the other person. Love is being able to be comfortable enough to lay your soul out bare and not be afraid to be judged and be accepted by the other side and you give it back to them. It's not always about agreeing. It's not always about being exactly identical or, you know, being the same energy or being, but it is about fully accepting the other side, no matter what they throw at you. And, and kind of like you replicating that
Starting point is 01:08:45 and reciprocating that with no judgment, with no prejudice, it's just, it's just there. What's the Kurt Cobain quote? It's like, I'd rather be hated for who I am than love, for who I'm not. Yeah, exactly. 100% stand by that. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:09:01 You know, I think if someone, again, as God said, like can accept you on all formats and just love you for you, then that's real love. Yeah. I pretty much agree. Couldn't say it better myself, boys. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:11 I think you've nailed it. Let's go next question. What happens when you die? You don't get to play Slice by a two anymore. Shit. That's the damn short. That's the meaning of life, I mean, I think this one kind of ties into religion a little bit.
Starting point is 01:09:25 It depends what you feel like. Look, I'd love that it'd be fucking reincarnation. I think it's fucking sick that I get out of another shot as like a fucking coyote. I believe in it. Yeah. Or a mitochondria. I think it'd be fun to have another shot. I would not want to be reincarnated as mitochondria.
Starting point is 01:09:42 That'd be fucking sick. The powerhouse of the cell. Yeah, but you don't know that. You're like, mm-hmm. You can just shit yourself, but energy. Oh, perfect. It's flat for me. You know, like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:09:54 For me, I've always felt like there is a comfort and knowing that it's over. That's it. There's nothing. Let me flip. You need to make it, make this fucking matter. You only have this life. Don't rely on a second chance or a second thing or
Starting point is 01:10:08 hashtag good or bad. Make sure you fucking lock in and enjoy this life. Because I think it's over. When you're done, you're done. Yeah. Do we deserve more? I don't think so. I think we've been given this life and it's special.
Starting point is 01:10:20 I don't think you're entitled to anything more. Absolutely. Yeah. Is it boring? Yes, it's fucking boring. But it's probably the truth. Yeah, but, you know, even if there was a 0.0.0.0.1% chance that there is an afterlife. Why don't you just take that risk, you know?
Starting point is 01:10:40 You're hedging your back. You're like, look, I don't believe in it necessarily. But I'd like to be on the list if it's going to be an after party. If there's an after party when I'm done here, I will be attending. If I can get through the pearly gates, all the more better. I mean, if, like, if you look at it from that perspective, fair enough. I can't deny that. It's a solid argument.
Starting point is 01:11:04 Look, I feel like, for me at least, I feel like, well, I don't know what the truth is. I don't know what the truth is. No one knows what the truth is. No one can know what the truth is. But like, is my life, does my life get any worse by believing that there is something after death? No. And yeah, it's just, obviously I do genuinely believe that there is something after death. But, you know, I've had this like thought experiment a lot where I'm just like, well, if I have nothing to lose by believing, but I have everything to lose by not believing, well, then I'm going to take that risk, man.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Yeah, that's something I've thought about as well, where it's like, if, hypothetically, science gets to a point where one day we do figure out the answer to what. happens to people when they die. Do you think that would change the way we live? No. Because it would be like when they show you Wi-Fi waves. Oh shit, wait. It wouldn't mean anything. Brain fart moment. Are we answering, are we answering one of the previous questions? Well, which was? Because does death give meaning to life? Yes. Is that the meaning of life? To fucking die. I can feel my brain expanding. One beer in this. I think it's a, it's a very depressing thing.
Starting point is 01:12:30 And I wish I believed in something greater, but I don't. And I don't know what this is about me. But it isn't, it isn't from some cold place. It's from an acceptance of I need to make sure I do the most with this life I have, because I don't think there's anything else. So why do you need to, why do you need to know that there's nothing after to lock in now? I think it's, I think it's not so much like I need it to lock in now.
Starting point is 01:12:59 I feel like for me, I feel like selfish thinking that I'm entitled to another thing. You know what I mean? What do you mean entitled? Like I deserve another run. Like like, like, like, right about. Like there's more to it. Like I got, I got more in me. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:13:16 I mean, it's not, I feel like from my mentality, maybe I'm too British. I'm like, oh no, I wouldn't want to trouble you. And they're like, it's literally heaven. Go ahead. I'm like, no, no, I'm full. I couldn't possibly have another shot at life. Let me at least take my shoes off. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:13:31 To me, I don't know where that's coming from, what that says about me. But I think, yeah, I do feel this weird aspect of me that feels like, who am I to think that I'm worthy of another shot or an extra place after this, the green room, if you will, of death. I mean, I just found it interesting, use the word entitled. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:54 Because I do think, like, the way some people talk about it, I do feel like there is an entitlement there of like, I'm entitled to more after I die. Well, they're not getting in. Little do they know. Straight to hell, buddy. I don't know. And I, I, yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Well, see, because, like, that's why I like the idea of reincarnation and why I strongly believe in it, because it's not, I don't necessarily believe in it because I think to myself like, well, I always just run it back if things go awry. But like it's, I use it as like a benchmark to be like, you know, because in Shintoism, the whole idea of reincarnation is that how you live your current life reflects upon how you are reborn in your next life. So if you do bad things in your current life, then you'll be reborn into a situation that is not as good as your current one and vice versa. So I kind of use my personal belief of reincarnation to live the best possible life I can currently
Starting point is 01:14:57 so that if in perchance there is some form of reincarnation that I will, at least in my mind, have the reassurance that I'll be born into the next life as something just as good, if not better than the previous life. So it's like, it's not necessarily something that like I look forward to or anything, but it it grounds me into my current life. I'm a fan of anything that generally makes people all do good and do better. And I'm glad that I think luckily the core pillars of most religion and spirituality is basically be good. Be a good person. Be good and good will happen to you, which I do actually believe in, in general, not because of there's some kind of cosmic balance, but I think that people generally want to be around and reward.
Starting point is 01:15:41 people who are doing good things. Yeah, I think it's just the nature of humanity in the universe. Is there even such a thing? I'm going off, I'm going to go, go, go, rip it. Is that even such a thing as good and evil? Is that a human construct? I'm gonna take a piss while I just drop that bomb shot.
Starting point is 01:15:56 You can't just drop that and then leave. Nah. I also need a piss, so hurry up. Is there such thing as good and evil? I think it ain't that deep. Okay, let me flip Gant's question. Do you think people, are inherently born as good. No.
Starting point is 01:16:14 All people. Why do you say? Well... Do you think that someone can be born evil? Yeah. How so? There's some real fucking evil people out there. There's some absolute monsters out there, Jerry.
Starting point is 01:16:29 Oh, I don't deny that. So I think, dude, I genuinely do think some people are just born and that it's evil. Straight up? I think so. See, I beg to differ. Because you always hear about these stories, you know, and we always have these lovely little bows to it. But then you look at like what actually happens in the world. Sometimes you're like, there's just like no excuse other than just genuine, pure, unadulterated evil going on sometimes.
Starting point is 01:16:54 There's some people. I don't know. I always like to think that... You think anyone can be redeemed or anything can be... Yeah. And I always think that if someone does turn out to be evil, no matter how young it is that they are deemed to be evil, that I always think... I don't think there's an arbiter of evil, by the way. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:10 No, of course not. Yeah, there isn't like a power level of evil or anything. But like, you know, there are lots of people in history that were quote unquote evil at, you know, very young ages or, you know, at a certain point in their life. But I always believe that no one is born evil. I think evil is taught and evil is consumed from different factors in different lives, right? Yeah, I think so. I think it's like a, you're born with a throw of the dice and then you can start affecting pluses and minus. on that dice. Totally. I was asking the question. Do you think you can be born evil? Can you be born evil? Oh, let me rewatch Monster. Johan Levert.
Starting point is 01:17:51 Your Han Liebert. Was he born evil? And evil. Yes. Or was he made evil? I think, yes. I think he was made evil. I think Johan had an inclination to be evil.
Starting point is 01:18:06 And then maxed out the skill tree. Do I, oh, fuck, I should ask Sydney this. He's watching off true crime podcasts. That's the thing. I think it's from my exposure to watching a lot of these like true crime things. I'm like, holy shit, this person was just like straight evil. Yeah. Like there is no like, no nuance there that would be like or even like they had a tough
Starting point is 01:18:29 chat. Some people were like, they were fine. China was normal. Just decided they really wanted to chop people off. And you're like, that's kind of weird. Yeah. How does that happen? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:39 You know, and we don't write stories about stuff like this because we'd be like, that's unrealistic. Oh, it doesn't have any, it's one-dimensional. Yeah, yeah. It's like a one-dimensional, why were they evil? Because they just were. It's not an interesting story, even if it might have some truth to it in reality. Yeah, I do think you can be born evil or at least have something just wrong with how you're programmed. I think they've done a lot of research.
Starting point is 01:19:07 into like not evil, but things with like obviously being born, nature versus nurture and that kind of stuff, but it always seems quite muddied and complex.
Starting point is 01:19:20 And psychology already, as a science, is fucking messy. Yeah. And yeah, I guess why I ask this is because like, you know, you talk about being a good person
Starting point is 01:19:36 and wanting to do good to the world, even if this is your only chance, right? And the fact that there is nothing after gives you, I guess, like motivation to try to make the most out of your life now. But like to me, I agree with that because I do want to be a good person and I do want to bring good to the world.
Starting point is 01:20:03 But I do think that the reason I believe that is, because I do believe in good. I do believe in evil. Yeah, me too. And I don't believe that that is something that is merely like a human construct. I believe there is something higher,
Starting point is 01:20:17 something more there to kind of like, kind of like motivate us and kind of like present us to be the best person, the best human being we can be. Because otherwise, what is the point of being a good human being? I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:20:33 Are you saying without a higher purpose, you feel like there would be no need for good and need? evil. There are societal benefits to being a good person. You know, society grew up. The society does
Starting point is 01:20:48 better when people cooperate with each other. That's just life. That's just programming. Why do we have wars? Why do we fight? What purpose do we cause these when coexistence seems to benefit? Shit. That's... Born evil.
Starting point is 01:21:06 Born evil. It's the systems, Connor. It's the systems that we are a slave to, Conner. No, wars start because each side thinks that they're good and the other is evil. That's why it starts. Yeah, but someone's always pawned some levers and strengths. I think even though I'm not religious,
Starting point is 01:21:24 I do think that it's important that I think it helps a lot of people give them guidance. Yeah, definitely. I don't know why I feel like, fuck it, I don't need it. But I think for, I do appreciate. that it helps a lot of people in that sense. Yeah. So, like, just so you know, viewers,
Starting point is 01:21:41 like not that a lot of this conversation we're not believing, I don't really, whatever, whatever gets you around in your life, go for it. I don't, there's no inclination that I don't support any of them. As long as you're not harming people to achieve that, then you can believe whatever you want. Also, if you get offended that I said that, back off, bitch.
Starting point is 01:21:59 All right. Shut your ass up. As you can see here, we are three people with three different beliefs, and we all respect each other's beliefs and opinions. And I think that's what's important. I'm kidding. Number one, what is AI?
Starting point is 01:22:15 How is that the most social thing? If you Google this, you're not going to make it. You are permanent on the class. Not going to make it. What does the AI say when you ask them, what is AI? We are here to help you. Yeah. We run everything in your life.
Starting point is 01:22:30 Yeah, there you go. Oh, okay. Basic generic answer. Yeah. set of technology that empowers computers to learn, reason, and perform a variety. What is the point of asking this question? That's my bigger question. Not the question.
Starting point is 01:22:44 I'm going to start glazing AI in my search prompts and like win it over to think I'm one of the good ones. So that when the time comes, I'll be saved. Is that why people are asking this question? When they answer back with this, then you just be like, no, actually, you're a good boy. Why is AI so handsome and smart? Why is AI so good? I'm going to keep Googling in the shit so that when they do win, I'll be in.
Starting point is 01:23:10 And then I'll tear it down from the system within. Oh, well, now they just heard you say that. Yeah. Well, they wouldn't, they don't listen to how I was in. Even the AI turns off an hour in Joe. Everyone knows this. There's a lot of computing power to waste. True.
Starting point is 01:23:29 What's the, I guess we've gone through the list. I guess there was other stuff too I don't really Following those A thought experiments And philosophical thoughts That are sorry Okay
Starting point is 01:23:39 They can discuss Okay If you replace all parts of a boat Is it still the same boat Ship of Theseus Um Yeah I think so Well see this reminds me of
Starting point is 01:23:52 I think it was a Vsorce video Where they pose this really interesting question Based on the ship of thesis Right It's the fact that for example you know, human body is made up of cells and cells continuously die and regenerate and replace with newer cells, right?
Starting point is 01:24:08 So, technically speaking, there is not a single cell in your body right now that was there when you were born. So are you still the same person? Oh, yeah, it's fucking stupid. It's the ship of thesis, isn't it? Yeah, and I think, like, when you're talking about this, and I'm like, it's my boat, right?
Starting point is 01:24:30 And I told her on my boat. Yeah. And I'm like, do you want to ride on my boat? You're like, yeah, sure. I come back two years and I've fixed this boat so many times, none of the parts are the same. I'd still be my fucking boat. And I would like refer to it as the same boat.
Starting point is 01:24:43 I wouldn't see it any different. You know what I mean? This is like, I'm trying to. It's my fucking bone. It's my fucking going to. Back off. Back off. Will you fucking stop asking me about my fucking boat
Starting point is 01:24:54 why I need to fix it so many fucking times? I'd be more concerned about why I had to fucking replace every part. There's no part that it was good enough to stay. Really? You've got to fix the whole boat. Yeah. Yeah. It's the funny thing of like, you buy a boat, it's shit.
Starting point is 01:25:08 You buy a completely new boat. Still my boat. I just think this is like you get lost in the source question. Okay. Then question. If they invented teleporters tomorrow, would you take part in that? Well, I mean... Depends how the teleporter...
Starting point is 01:25:27 I mean, there's only one way it works, Joey. It kills you and makes another version. Literally, it scans your atomic structure, and then it takes away the atomic structure, and then transfers it over to... And then reconstructs it, right? So essentially, it is death. Right.
Starting point is 01:25:48 But is it really? It's a rebirth. It's a rebirth as well. If I was, like, exactly the same, I'd do it. But what if it's not? Well... What if you come out at the other end? is like, I have a, I'm growing out of my ass.
Starting point is 01:26:01 No, no, no, no, but the point is, let's assume in this hypothetical scenario that it works perfectly. Know the fly defects or whatever, you know, you don't get your DNA mixed with some animal. It's a perfect recreation. Would you feel comfortable going in the teleporter? Anything to not go through an airport, am I right, boys?
Starting point is 01:26:22 Yeah, I mean, I honestly, like, yeah. One trip to LAX and you're like, damn, kill me, take me to L.A. I'd be interested how customs will work with teleporters. True. Because that's what it would be at first, right? They would be such an expensive technology and so, like, hard to use
Starting point is 01:26:42 that if we did have it, it would be, like, only operated by, like, governments for a while. Oh, yeah. And that would be fun to see how it's used. Yeah. Just see how it's implemented. Yeah, right? Because you'd still have to go through customs.
Starting point is 01:26:55 Yeah, you would. So, like, I think, like, it would still suck. Yeah. You know what I mean? I mean, like, and you would definitely be like in trouble if you illegally teleported into a place. Yeah. I mean, you'd have to put a lot of shit. You'd have to put a lot of trust in the teleportation company to like 100% take all your atoms and recreate it faithfully.
Starting point is 01:27:18 I think people think it's like a technology that we just have. Yeah. Not happen. No, because you're relying on hardware. You're relying on software to perfectly recreate it, right? who's to know that they're not gonna they're not gonna like
Starting point is 01:27:31 fuck up something. Oh, we've scanned a bunch of Gant's code. Yeah. Suddenly we need stuff built. Let's just scan a couple of Garns. Load up the 3D scan and execute them and we're done with our fucking pyramid.
Starting point is 01:27:43 Yeah. Pyramid of L.A.X. Yeah. Talk about having your private data. Imagine having your like entire being fucking scanned and owned by big tag. Easily there can be like a thing
Starting point is 01:27:53 where it's like, you know, people are like protesting. Don't use teleporters. I know they're convenient, but, you know, they've got your fucking DNA. And everyone's like, people are already saying that
Starting point is 01:28:03 about our fucking phones. Yeah, I mean, you know. Yeah. But people would do it. People, Oh, no doubt. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:11 Bro, I already get my DNA away with the fucking companies those 23 of me shit. They already have my fucking call. Exactly. I'm already compromised. Put me in the fucking teleporter. Once you've been through LAX,
Starting point is 01:28:21 you'll take the teleporter. Yeah, you'll wish. Did we answer the question? question or no I think we I think we argued that the whole I think it's the same boat I think it's the same boat yeah I think it's the same boat I think it's the same boat as well because what's the time frame of shipathias as well like is there a time frame where it becomes not the ship if you're a pair over the course of like one day yeah maybe it's not the same ship if it was part by part over the course of 50 years I'd say it's still definitely the same ship you know what I mean I think it's
Starting point is 01:28:54 this is a fun question, but one. Possession is a mental construct, actually. I think the question is more interesting when you don't actually answer it. Like, when you don't actually engage in it. It's just every philosophical question. Give me a great philosopher, Conno. I think it's great, you just don't answer it.
Starting point is 01:29:14 Fuck off, just get on the fucking boat. I can just imagine, like, Connor and, like, the fucking, like, with all the great philosophers. And they're just, like, posing this question of, like, if you replace all parts of the boat, Is it the same? I imagine I'd be there, right? And he's telling me, who's one of the ones that was there in the Greek court of the time?
Starting point is 01:29:31 Uh, fucking, uh, I was about to say Poseidon. That's what the fuck is mean? Stop breaking the fucking shit with Theseus, mate. We've replaced it three fucking times already. This is getting ridiculous. Plato, Plato's tell me about like his shit and I'm here like, Plato, I'm trying to build a fucking bridge, mate. I don't, let's build the fucking bridge, okay?
Starting point is 01:29:52 I've got four men ready to build a bridge. Stop asking me. about what do I think we should do. Build the fucking bridge, Pleiote's. He's not bringing this shit up. Grotto would definitely be the philosopher to walk up to Plato, me like, dumb question, next.
Starting point is 01:30:05 It's like, who fuck you, who asked? Who asked? Actually, no one. That's the whole point of philosophy. Is that no one asked? Plato clearly has too much free time. We need someone else in here. Get another hobby, Plato.
Starting point is 01:30:20 Who was the first philosopher? Have we asked, can you Google who was the first philosopher? I'm not going to say anything just the case I hear the ding Joe's like Thailies? I would have pronounced that Thales.
Starting point is 01:30:34 Yeah. Thales. Thales. Thales. Thales, maybe. When I was it that meme where it's like, I like to imagine pronouncing testicles, like a force. This is also the, again, yeah, mentions in the Western tradition.
Starting point is 01:30:48 So I guess there's like, you know. Yeah, he's not the first person that thought. That's, I haven't had that discussion. Socrates, right, is the father of philosophy. Yeah. Father of philosophy. The father of philosophy, whatever that means. Well, look, he didn't build a fucking boat, did he?
Starting point is 01:31:03 So it's not very helpful. Didn't build the boat, irrelevant. I haven't built a boat either, though, so I can't talk. Oh, my God. You guys believe in free will? Uh, ooh. Depends how you define free will. You're even fate. Do you think everything's predetermined?
Starting point is 01:31:25 Okay. Like we're in a simulation? You gotta slow down. Yeah, you got to, you're going. I'm just going now. Which one do you care about, Don? Which topic do you want to talk about? Oh, fucking, no.
Starting point is 01:31:34 You're just firing shit off. I am. I'm going into, like, full ADHD mode. Is that sloppicism? What is that? Sloppicism? What must just slop? Okay. You guys heard about the Andromeda paradox?
Starting point is 01:31:49 I have heard of this, but, no. I have heard of this, though. Yeah. What is it? Okay, so let's say, okay, I'm gonna say it, and then we're gonna check it to see how accurate it is to my explanation.
Starting point is 01:32:02 You're out for the dean. All right, all right, all right. So, if I remember this correctly, let's say there is a civilization on Andromeda, right? That is going to fire an earth-killing beam, right? And they are debating whether, to fire this, fire this beam and wipe out all life on earth, right? And there are two people walking towards each other on earth.
Starting point is 01:32:32 And they somehow have, they can somehow break the laws of physics, and they somehow have a telepathic link to, to what is going on in Andromeda. Okay. Right? Andromeda is the closest galaxy, by the way. And as they're walking towards each other, even though they are right next to each other,
Starting point is 01:32:52 Um, one person has just realized, oh, Andromeda, we gonna die. They've just, they've just fired off their beam, right? But the other person is like, man, what the fuck are you talking about? They're still deciding it. They're gonna make the decision next week, right? So the entire, the entire thought experiment is to basically show that there is no now, right? It's all relativity, but because there is no now, um, both people, both people, even though they are right next to each other,
Starting point is 01:33:29 perceived the information in Andromeda at like a different time. It's like a weaker part. The events are perceived so differently. I see. I believe, okay, now you can check. Now you can check. How accurate was I? I think, let's see. Einstein's Special Theory of Religious.
Starting point is 01:33:52 Relativity. Those can disagree on events. If one of the people were walking towards the Andromeda Galaxy, then events in this galaxy might be hours or even days behind the events on Andromeda for the person walking away from the galaxy. Yeah, I mean, relativity is such a funny thing. Yeah. And leads to so many quirks when you, you know, have it go through this Lenn. Yeah. I think it's also very similar to memory. Like memory is, as we've seen from countless, you know, cases, very unreliable. reliable. And people feel like 100%, they remember exactly what happened. And there'll be multiple accounts people saying literally the opposite. And you're like, it's weird how we feel so sure of something that we experienced. Yeah. That turned out to be wrong. Well, that's why the Mandela effect is a thing. Yeah. It's, it's, but that's like, that's the scariest aspect of humans is that we, because when you feel so sure about something, it's so insulting when someone tells you, no.
Starting point is 01:34:52 And that is like the most dangerous effect that we have And that whole chain of thought of like, I saw it. I know what I'm saying. Well, it goes back to a previous question we saw on that list of how do you know? Yeah. It's like, the answer is we don't. We only believe that we know because that's all we have to go off of. And to like go back to the whole like, you know, there is no such thing as now.
Starting point is 01:35:16 Like it reminds me of like, I think it was another V source bit. Sorry, can I have all three as well. Oh, yeah. Like all these questions are basically every V-source videos. Where it's like apparently, you know, because what we say, for example, like, I'm, I think I'm looking at this now. But there is a some small percentage of time that it took for my eye to register this thing and for my brain to go like, this is a glass of water right now. So technically because there is a time lag between what I am perceiving and what my brain registered as this. Technically speaking, when there is no such thing as now, we're constantly living in the past.
Starting point is 01:35:57 Yeah. You know? So the question is, what is now? Yeah. I don't think it exists. Yeah. So if it's, you know, it's super interesting because it's just like, if there is no concept of now, then what is the past? What is the future?
Starting point is 01:36:12 If everyone perceives things at different times, does that mean everything is already predetermined that the past exists somewhere? and the future always already also exists somewhere. And it's, I love it that you go deep enough into the science rabbit hole and it just turns into philosophy. Yeah. It all goes back to philosophy. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:37 I mean, the whole relativity in your, you know, when you look at a planet, you're seeing it from years ago. Yeah. Like, one of the scariest internal fears of like, holy fuck. Yeah. I can't even look up and see. what's happening. Yeah, exactly. There's a lot of that. Scary. Yeah. That was a tangent. Welcome to trash taste. Welcome to trash taste. Why did we get on this? I don't know. I was just
Starting point is 01:37:06 like my brain go. God was just like rapid firing philosophy questions. Yeah. Versus the egg theory. Every human is a reincarnation of the same single soul living every human life throughout. Oh, yeah, yeah. I like this one. I like this one too. But I remember, I remember the first time I heard it, I was like, it feels a bit incestuous. You're telling me we're all incest? You're telling me we're all the same person, just in different incarnations? Actually, Connor, we all are. Look, humanity would not exist without a little bit of incest.
Starting point is 01:37:36 Godlike beings elsewhere and that you two will one day become a god. No. It's, I mean, it's based of a short story, but I think it's super fascinating. Yeah, it's an interesting thought experiment. Yeah. But like, going back to the whole incest thing, I didn't say that. Yeah, you know the whole thing of like six degrees of separation, right?
Starting point is 01:37:58 Yeah. Yeah. That comes from incest. We would not be here if it wasn't for incest. I'm serious. Humanity would not exist today in its current state if it wasn't for incest. You think we should bring it back? We're all incestuous is what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:38:14 We're all related to one another. Run it back. Okay. Do you know what six degrees of separation is? Basically, it's saying it's this theory and I think of like biology or something where essentially you can take any single person and relate it to any other person in history or now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:38 And at most there will only be six degrees of separation between it. As in there are only, if you keep going of like a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend, you can connect any one person to any other person. I think it's someone on the trashdust subred it. I don't remember if I dreamed this up. I'm pretty sure it's on there. Did I just hear a ding? I think someone in the trashdustlead subreddit,
Starting point is 01:39:02 I saw this post where it was like, proving that Gart has four degrees of separation from Epstein. I think we have that with like, we have that with like Hitler too. Because like, we know Chris. Chris met the king. The king knows.
Starting point is 01:39:18 The queen knows. I was maybe met, definitely Churchill who met Hitler. Yeah, there you go. Yep. The idea that all people are six or fewer social interactions away from each other. I reckon it's social interactions. Social interactions. Yes. Are we counting like social media? Is that like fake degrees of separation? No, that's fake degrees of separation.
Starting point is 01:39:40 So you know, absolutely. I guess so. So do you. How does I write out? Oh, I don't know God. You cannot. You cannot escape. What a stupid fucking argument. Bro taking the ship of Theseus to the island. Hey, hey, hey, hey, turn up that transponder.
Starting point is 01:40:05 Oh my God. Yeah, so, okay, six degrees of separation, right? Okay. How do you? How does that relate to incest again? What? I was like, how do I get into this? So how do I opt in for this? Um, now that I'm thinking about it,
Starting point is 01:40:27 nothing. I was like, I think it's a completely different principle that I'm thinking of. I was a little confused about the incest bar. Yeah. I think this is a completely different... I actually don't think we're all in this principle. I was like, what is bro cooking right now? All I remember is that there's a quote from a
Starting point is 01:40:45 famous, like, a biologist or sociologist that said, like, we wouldn't be here without a little bit of incest. And it had to do with something about how, like, us as a human species had to have been incestuous a lot in order for us to get to this point, purely based on the fact that there is not enough. Oh, yeah, no, that's what in. Huh? That seems a common fucking sense. Of course, the villages that we used to have were, like, five people. Yeah. Yeah, I might have fucked my cousin. Fucking so what? Yeah, European history is like, we don't, we don't, even need a fucking village to commit incest. We're doing for the love the game.
Starting point is 01:41:20 Yeah, there you go. We wouldn't be here without quite a lot of incest. Well, yeah, no shit. When people say that to like sound deep, it's like, okay, yeah, well done, fucking dickwad. Now, stop fucking your cousin. I'm just trying to just play incense. And make the fucking boat. Make my fucking boat, cousin. Obviously we had incest. That was, that was it. There's only a recently thing it wasn't in. Garn's trying to bring it back.
Starting point is 01:41:48 God's some good, good honest work. You know, we're trying. All right. Okay, so what else? What else? Six degrees separation, sure, bollocks. Yeah. That's good.
Starting point is 01:42:08 Okay, so what else? What else? Why do you say that? I think we've discussed this on the pod before. I wonder... Hmm. Because I guess that's a reason why this theory has been circulating, right? Is that like, the more we think about it, the more we realize,
Starting point is 01:42:26 hmm, there isn't really much evidence to suggest not. You know what I mean? That it's... That we're not living in it. What's the evidence to suggest that we're not? Well, that's the thing. We don't have that. But this feels like... But we also don't have any...
Starting point is 01:42:43 We don't have any justifiable evidence to say that we are, either. This feels like changing the burden of proof to that of disproving, which I think is always like a lazier argument of a, or you can't prove it's not. I'm like, yeah, I agree. Okay, which is why I think it's kind of a dumb theory.
Starting point is 01:42:56 Look, I also think humans are way eviler than this. I think they would rather simulate it by just actually just like kidnapping babies and making just a dead ass Truman show. Ah, yeah. I think they would much rather do that. The right utopia. They would rather make their own human utopia experiment than fucking,
Starting point is 01:43:12 those 50-90s are expensive. I just think we'd rather we'd rather do with the real thing. Last Thursdayism, I've not heard this one. Oh, I've heard of this one. A philosophical and satirical hypothesis proposing that the universe was created last Thursday, but with the appearance of being billions of years old.
Starting point is 01:43:34 Yeah, this is dumb. Isn't this just like creationism, but like upping the ante? I mean, it's essentially the same thing, right? This is so dumb, because sometimes if you just put the wood, hypothesis or somethingism. You make a dumb idea sounds like smarter than it has any credit or any kind of validation listening to. Oh, legit. Uh, I've, what the fuck did you hear about
Starting point is 01:43:55 this before? I think I've read this in like a novel of some kind. I think I read a novel that was kind of like poking fun at this whole idea. Yeah. Um, where yeah, it's, again, it's this whole idea of like, there is nothing to say that we didn't just come into existence last Thursday and that all of the ideas of like the past and history have all just been implanted into our brains. And I'm just like, that's dumb. Just like Occam's Razor. This is such a stupid, which also is just an easy, like a more complicated way of just saying like, that's not a simple answer.
Starting point is 01:44:30 Yeah, yeah. What the fuck is Occam's Razor? Oh, the simplest answer is usually the correct one. Oh, yeah. I have heard of that one. Yeah. Yes. I don't know why it's called Occam's Razor, though.
Starting point is 01:44:41 Should we find out today together? Yeah. I've heard this so many times I've never understood why it's called Occam's Razor. Let's find out together. Let's find out. Why is Occam's? Double C. There you go.
Starting point is 01:44:54 I thought it was like K, to be honest. As a simplistic problem solving strategy first attributed to English Franciscan. That's a real French-sounding English. And logician named William of Occam in the late 13th or 14th century. Holy shit. The simplest, most elegant explanation
Starting point is 01:45:09 is usually the one closest to this. truth. But why is it called Occam's razor? Like, what, where does the razor come from? Why is he obsessed with this fucking razor? Why is it called Occam's razor? Here we go. Got its name from being a philosophical method of shaving
Starting point is 01:45:25 away unnecessary assumptions. Now I'm happy. That makes so much sense. I am satisfied the Mr. William of Occam liked razors. And that he liked shaving away unnecessary information. I am satisfied. Wow. Fair enough.
Starting point is 01:45:41 I mean, that's the truth. Like a lot of these hypotheses, I think, like, yeah, you could be born last Thursday, but also that's a lot of fucking effort to make a whole lot of bullshit. Also, what's the benefit in believing that? There's no benefit other than, like, I am less smart. Like, you know what I mean? You know what I mean? Like, a lot of these are like, I don't know,
Starting point is 01:46:01 or sometimes just poised as kind of thinking exercises to, I don't know, paint people as being dumb. Yeah. Quantum immortality. Oh, I like this. My favorite theory. One of my favorite. A theoretical, highly speculative concept suggesting that conscious beings can never experience their own death. That's fun. That's fun. That's a fun theory. Because it's basically, I think, goes into quantum theory. I've had too many beers to explain this.
Starting point is 01:46:32 You had one. Is that too many? That's one too many. You're pussy, man. I'm trying to, okay, okay. Well, you're trying to explain quantum theory? No, I'm trying to explain quantum immortality. You're dead. You can't like experience that like change.
Starting point is 01:46:50 Because your consciousness just stops, right? Right, so it almost, every time anyone makes a decision, let's say you have a button, right? And you, when you press the button, you have a 50-50 chance of dying and a 50-50 chance of living, right? And so, you know, probability should say,
Starting point is 01:47:11 should dictate that when you press the button, eventually you're going to die. But as you keep pressing the button, you realize that there's nothing happening. Right? So quantum immortality is kind of like building
Starting point is 01:47:27 off quantum theory where this is where it gets a bit messy for me. You got it. Well, if you are to observe it. If you are to observe it, something. about waveform collapses.
Starting point is 01:47:42 Shroding his cat. Yeah, fucking Schroding his cat. Well, you're observing the action of pressing it, and you can't observe the action of death. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, because death is an observation, right? Yeah. So it's when the system collapses into one concept,
Starting point is 01:47:57 whether that be life or death. But you, yourself, being the subject of that, can't experience that because death is as a result of the, what's the one I'm looking for? This is so hard to explain. Death is a result of the observation that the life is over, right? But you yourself can't experience that.
Starting point is 01:48:17 So it basically... So it basically implies the multi-world theory. What? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I believe so. Yeah, where every time a quantum fluctuation collapses, I'm just using big words.
Starting point is 01:48:35 I don't know if that actually mean anything. Right, right. There's a version of you that die. Yeah, there's a version that dies. and a version of you that lives, right? And because your consciousness is a, like, one single stream, then you can only observe the stream where you survive, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:53 Even though there might be, like, billions and billions of worlds where you died. And, um, yes. I like that theory. All on black, baby. Yeah. So, uh, how accurate was I? It. All your audio, all your audio listeners might have had a lot of ding.
Starting point is 01:49:11 Yeah. When an individual dies in one universe, their consciousness could shift to a parallel universe where they survive the life-threatening event. Yeah. And you won't know that because we can't observe that. We can't observe moving from one parallel universe. It's fun to imagine that there's always a universe where I do the right thing.
Starting point is 01:49:29 Not this universe. Sadly, I don't think it exists. Well, how do you know? You can't observe it. Because it would take a lot of fucking effort to make that many worlds. And if God's got his hands for making one, He sure as how does it making fucking $5 billion? You've seen some of the fish he's made.
Starting point is 01:49:45 Can barely get them right. There's no such thing as fish. Yeah, true. There is no such thing as fish. No such thing is fish. The term fish is like wrong. You know this? You know this, Roger?
Starting point is 01:49:58 I told me about this. There's no such thing as fish. No such thing as fish. Man, we're fucked up, man. What a stupid episode. Determinism. This is just fate, right? Well, determinism is the idea that goes against like free will, right?
Starting point is 01:50:13 That it suggests that like everything is pre-planned and that what you think is free will was actually already determined from previous things. How do you feel about nihilism? About nihilism? Yeah, it's quite a popular feeling these days with a lot of people lacking hope in the world. My honest answer is that I don't really have an proper understanding
Starting point is 01:50:35 of what nihilism is. I've bought a lot of like, um, books from philosophers like Nietzsche and like Kierkegaard and stuff about nihilism, which I plan to like go through. Because like it is one thing that it's one of those things that you hear so often. And yet I feel very little people actually understand what it is. They just think it means just like fuck everything. And that's like the way to live. But like the boiling down of it, right? Like to give up to resign yourself to any. Yeah. But I've also heard arguments that that's not what nihilism is. That's something else. But I'd argue that if. the common usage of what it's become is that and the expression of it is that, then that's how the English language works and that's what it is now. I guess so. Yeah. It's like, you know, it happens a lot. So what's your definition of nihilism? I think it's just the, the outlook on just giving up all, like, hope on that anything, anything can ever work out, that nothing will ever be good. I completely resigned myself to ever, like, doing or hoping for, It's basically, if we refer back to the,
Starting point is 01:51:38 what is the meaning of life question? Nialism is you going, nah, I'm out, I'm out, I'm out, fucking... What the fuck is. What do you think? But that's what losers think. That is what losers think. And Nietzsche, famously, biggest loser on the planet. I haven't read his works. I haven't either. I plan to. So come back to a loser. Come back to me in a couple of months when I read it.
Starting point is 01:52:03 Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I definitely have some nihilistic aspects. that I think it's built into the British spawn point. You do have that built in. Sure. But I think it's very important to recognize that even with a healthy dose of it, you need to know when you're just being fucking miserable. And unfortunately, most good things in the world comfortable who hope, who dream. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:26 That's the truth. It's boring and as easy as it is to give up. Throw your hands in the end and say nothing will change. Yeah. I can't do this. The world was built on people who say. that they could. Yeah, exactly. That's the truth. That's the truth bomb. Um, get owned. The Boltzman brain theory. You guys heard about this one? I would not. Do you know this one? I do know
Starting point is 01:52:50 this one. Uh, proposes that a fully functioning self-aware brain could randomly materialize out of thin air, complete with false memories of a living for life. It suggests that it is statistically more likely for you to be a temporary isolated brain floating in space than a biological entity in a vast universe. That sounds dope. That's like the sickest, like, sci-fi premise. This is like some kind of metal band cover art. I mean, look, my next band is going to be called Boltzman Brains theory. That's a sick band. Is this like the idea of like, you know, I think everyone has that like one friend where you're like, I don't remember when you spawn into my life, but you kind of hear you right now. Is that what that is? I mean, the great thing about
Starting point is 01:53:37 the quantum world is that... It's just so much bullshit. It's just no one fucking understands it. Yeah. And things can just happen, given enough time. Let's say time is like, let's say time is infinite, right? And give enough time, uh, given, given enough time, uh, everything that can happen, all the ways that atoms can arrange itself and do things is finite. So if time is infinite, then it means that anything could be possible. And everything will eventually be possible and will be forever possible and will forever happen. So the Boston brain theory is kind of like, well, a brain can just randomly materialize itself due to the ways that...
Starting point is 01:54:26 The structure of the atoms. structure of the atoms, just randomly out of pure chance, materialize a conscious brain that will be unconscious in just like a millisecond. That's fucking weird. I'm gonna go pitch. I mean, it's kind of a cool theory to think that like, you know, judging from like the vastness of the universe and how infinite it is, that if we look far enough for long enough,
Starting point is 01:54:50 that we can just stumble across a brain in space, just floating. You know what I mean? Am I wrong? Yo, did you find the brain? Like, could you imagine like humanity searching like the farest galaxies
Starting point is 01:55:11 for fucking billions of years from now and like we've discovered everything about the Milky Way? We've discovered everything about and all the nearby galaxies and when we're like far out into like wherever the fuck we are in space.
Starting point is 01:55:25 And then one day our fucking grandsons, grandsons, grandsons a million times over, looks out the window and goes, is that a fucking brain in space? Well, Joe, no, I can, like, I'll, I'm not high enough for this. I'll bring your brain even more. Sure. Okay, let's say not even time is infinite.
Starting point is 01:55:46 Let's say space is infinite, right? So we have the observable universe, but we don't know what's outside the observable universe. Let's say space is infinite, right? And as I just said, that atoms can only rearrange themselves in so many different ways, right? So if space is infinite,
Starting point is 01:56:06 if you travel far enough way from Earth, there is a mathematical number where you can travel, right? And you will find an exact replica of this Earth and you right now, in this exact thing, if you go far enough, if space is infinite, because as I said, like... But he has a bigger penis than though.
Starting point is 01:56:31 Yes. If you travel in the right direction, that's what you'll find. Opposite direction? Micro-dick. You're in the right space, man. Yeah, I'm in the middle. You got the perfectly sized penis right here, Jerry. Thank God.
Starting point is 01:56:47 Thank God. Yeah, that's, okay, see, but like, I think about that, right? And I get what you're saying. But at the same time, is that not just the multiverse theory? It's a different kind of multiverse theory. What the fuck are we talking about now? What a bullshit are we doing on now?
Starting point is 01:57:06 We're talking about how the Boltzmann brain theory is kind of coinciding with the multiverse theory. Oh, I brought one from home earlier. I bought a Maltzman brain. No, dude, do you believe that space is infinite, Connor? that there is an edge to space. Oh, toughy. But no. No, because...
Starting point is 01:57:28 We don't know enough yet. Yeah, we don't. Also, that shit's expanding too fast. Yeah. We'll never see the edge. Yeah, we would never. I like to think of it as a video game map. You know, they didn't map out the wall.
Starting point is 01:57:42 And then sometimes you just hit the wall. There's a space wall. Yeah. Like Star Citizen. So you think, it's a simulation. This guy. This episode has hurt my brain.
Starting point is 01:57:57 Yeah. No, what I was explaining to Joey is that if space, hypothetical situation, is infinite. As I said, there are only so many certain ways
Starting point is 01:58:11 atoms can rearrange themselves. Yeah. So there have been people who have figured out that if space is infinite, There is an actual number. There is an actual distance you can travel, right? Which is an incomprehensible number.
Starting point is 01:58:26 But if you travel far enough, you will eventually reach another Earth with the atoms, where the atoms have been made as an exact replica of this earth with the exact same you, doing the exact same thing right now, listening to me. It is, it is, if space is infinite, it is not only a possibility. it is a death, like it is an eventuality that if you travel far enough, you will meet exact copy of yourself. And every, and every single,
Starting point is 01:59:00 every variation of yourself as well. But that's why I was saying, like, how is that any different from the multiverse theory, though? Right? Because would that just not be the multiverse theory? That is part of the multiverse theory. I will ship myself in every year. It's the ship of the thesis, right? Is it a replica of you or is it just something that looks and acts like you?
Starting point is 01:59:24 Yeah. I don't know. My brain hurdy. I'm unable to function. Don't worry. There's a universe out there where your brain not hurting. Yeah. Fuck, man.
Starting point is 01:59:35 I love this shit. Yeah, me too. It's fun, but after a certain point, you just entertain it for the sake of fucking entertaining it and you don't actually believe or care about any of the... No, at the end of the day after this fucking recording, morning ends. I'm not gonna go home and like wallow about it for hours. You should, but why? I want you to. I want you to have a terrible time tonight. To think about when you asked me about the shit. How it may be feel, Joey.
Starting point is 02:00:01 Oh, this is why I love, uh, no, I do enjoy talking about it. I just think there are, there are only a couple that I think are actually really fun to think about. And there are some that you're like, some waste my fucking time. Don't fucking tell me about. What are the, what are fan pan pipschism pan-physicism? What are some of the fun ones for you then, Connor? No, I've gone over them, honestly. The simulator one's quite fun.
Starting point is 02:00:28 Yeah. Because there is like, you know, you actually don't know. Yeah. It's quite good, isn't it? Do you know what I think? Like, black holes are just like that fucking glitch. You know, you get that fucking error in the game.
Starting point is 02:00:40 I think that's just black holes. Yeah. They're just like... Black holes are like something that you would like, you just don't. think makes sense, but then they're real and you're like, that's kind of scary. Yeah. I feel like we should have that a lockdown. We should figure out what that is. Yeah, it's kind of scary to think that out there in the universe, there are many, many millions,
Starting point is 02:00:58 possibly billions of points in space that have zero length and infinite weight. Also so sick that he figured that out. Yeah. Yeah. Right. So sick that he was like, guys, let me out. I've done the math. It is possible. These things could be out. And then they fucking found it. Yeah. Well, fuck, we found one. It's like, oh shit. How do we measure it?
Starting point is 02:01:19 We can't. The amount of times where Einstein were just like, I feel like this is possible. And then fucking decades later, they were like, down the go. That's why he's the goat, man. He was spitting. My boy, Al, spitting. He did locket. The locket on the sanctuary, bro.
Starting point is 02:01:38 My boy just don't miss, man. How does he do that? If you just win that anime Battle Royale, it's all wrong. Pro doesn't lock in that anime, I don't know who is. He's way too on the battle in that anime. Let's just think about how much he's gotten right.
Starting point is 02:01:56 Yeah, right. Go fucking damn it. It is kind of crazy how much shit he got figured out. Yeah. But I wonder if it was like so much work had been done before him and it was like the cascade effect of, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:02:10 It's hard to, how do you power scale? Scientists. We should have scientist power scaling channels. Scientists power scaling? Yeah, Isaac Newton versus... No, I think it's... Like, given the tools they had,
Starting point is 02:02:26 how exceptional is the progress they made. I think a lot of people agree that Isaac Newton is like the greatest scientist of all time. Bro literally invented calculus. Yeah. It's pretty beast. Which is like what Einstein used to create all of his theory.
Starting point is 02:02:40 So it's kind of goaded. Yeah, and it's... What age did Newton invent calculus? I think he was in his 20s. It's crazy that they figured it all out. So all we have left is shit like, Brown note. That's all I can figure out now.
Starting point is 02:02:53 They took all the good inventions. There's nothing I can do. Maybe I could have, if I was smart enough, I could have made the scrub daddy. Like that's the best claim I have. This is bullshit. They took everything. So Newton invented calculus when he was 24,
Starting point is 02:03:11 which is insane, you know. Yeah, but he also died of version, so not as cool. Did Albert Einstein have a wife? Clearly, did Albert Einstein get pictures? Can I, can I, can I? He was locked in. He doesn't need women, he was locked in. Have children.
Starting point is 02:03:33 Yeah, he did have a wife, right? Yeah, he did. Einstein solos. Yeah. He came up with all this shit, and he had Riz. Isaac, you know, rea. Like, he had like, problems where he was like, woman, I'm trying to focus on work here.
Starting point is 02:03:52 Wait, wait, wait, wait. Do you think, like, he had arguments? He's like, honey, I know this seems crazy, but this is so much bigger than us. Like, I know I'm not home from work at 10, but I promise this is so much more important than you. You're like, honey? Do you think you can get away with that?
Starting point is 02:04:09 I don't know, man. Like, looking back, you feel like he would have the past, but during it, you know he wouldn't have the past. Because every man feels like their work is bigger than what they're in and what they're, you know. Yeah, but this was also like, what, the 30s and the 20s? Yeah, this is where I don't really have to. So Alba was definitely like, go home and make me a sandwich woman.
Starting point is 02:04:29 Can you fucking talking to me? Can you actually confirm if Isaac Newton was a virgin or is that just like a belief? I think it's just a belief. I think it's just a belief. Yeah. He never married. He never married.
Starting point is 02:04:42 I'm sure he fucked around a little bit, but... He was buried with great pomp in Westminster Avenue, which I love. He's not known to ever have had any romantic relationships of any kind. And it's believed to have died aversion. There you go. My fucking God. Well, because he was too busy inventing calculus, bro. Imagine, like, inventing calculus and hundreds of years later, you're like,
Starting point is 02:05:01 yeah, bitch was a virgin, though. Oh, bro. It's the true irony of he, he discovered the theory of gravity, and yet he couldn't gravitate any bitches towards himself. To me, yeah, I mean, he was just so locked in. I think there was. Look, he doesn't need bitches, bro. No.
Starting point is 02:05:17 Science was his bitch. He made it, dude. He made science's bitch. He's just so stupid. Like, bro, generationally locked in. He doesn't need people. Yeah. He had, man.
Starting point is 02:05:28 Dude, way to, fucking force is named after him. What's bullshit? Is it give him Slay the Spire to? I want to see if he can lock in after that. I just don't think he can. I don't think he'd do it. You know what I mean? This is bullshit.
Starting point is 02:05:40 I am hampered from the start because I have these two good video games. This is bullshit. Put your calculus to this, Isaac. I would like to see him try and succeed with some distractions. Yeah, true that. What if he had porn? You have no social media. You know, that's why we're not going to get another Isaac mutant in our day and age.
Starting point is 02:05:59 True, true. You always hear about these kid genuses. And then we never hear about them ever again. No. They fell off. Because they discovered Slate Spites. Because they found video games. And they're like, well, there goes my life.
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