Trash Taste Podcast - The Japanese Food You've Never Tried | Trash Taste #17

Episode Date: September 25, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome to another episode of Trash Taste. I am your host for today, Gigarch, and with me today, I do not have a guest. This feels- For the first time. This feels so refreshing, like, for like the first two times we've had guests on and I just haven't been able to like sit in the center where I deserve to be. I love how the, as well, the subreddit has come up with this controversy
Starting point is 00:00:21 or like conspiracy that, oh, Gant is the one that always hosts all the guest episodes because he's the most social level of three. It's like, no, No, there is no conspiracy. It was just a coincidence that both times, it was my scheduled time to be a guess, but this is my time now. I get this side.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Finally, you're sitting by yourself. You get an entire camera to yourself. Yeah, I know. And we've meeting again with the boys, as for usual. Wait, what was that drop in energy, God? You just felt like sad, bro. I know. And there's the boys.
Starting point is 00:00:52 It's giga. And the boys, whatever. I should be the tired one. I've been up since 4 a.m. Why were you up since 4? I was doing fucking Carson's pool tournament. Yeah, thank you for inviting all of us, by the way, Carson. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:06 But there was only one madman between our group who was willing to wake up at like 3.30 a.m. Yeah, 3.30 a.m. and then I had Japanese school after. So I had to go into Tokyo and then I had to come back here and do the podcast. But Carson, fuck you for kicking me out of the tournament. As you, I don't know if you guys probably didn't see this. I was crushing my opponent.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Do you want to explain the tournament? Yeah. So it was an eight ball pool tournament, right? and 64 bracket, and I was first to play, right? So I don't have any knowledge of what the, this fucking pool table looked like an eight bit windows kind of game. It was fucking awful. He kept saying, no, it's great on the stream.
Starting point is 00:01:40 It was fucking awful Carson. Right. I like your Carson, by the way. I like you, Carson, by the way. I like you, Casa, but I don't like your pool table. This pool sucked, Carson. Anyway, immediately, I was against Botez, and I just started clapping her, dude. I was getting all of these balls in,
Starting point is 00:01:55 no problem whatsoever, right? And I was down to the eight ball. And then like, something weird happened. on the fucking and the pool thing, right? And I'm like, Carson, what is this? He's like, oh, don't worry, just click, just click. So I just clicked. I shouldn't have believed Carson,
Starting point is 00:02:07 because of course he's gonna troll me, it's the first game. So I just ignored it, potted the black and I'm like, right, see you guys in the next round. I was about to leave the call. And they were like, wait, you lost Connor. And I'm like, what do you mean I lost? Like, oh, you picked the wrong hole.
Starting point is 00:02:20 I'm like, it didn't give me, oh my God, Carson fucking played me though. Carson, why? Because in eight ball, you have to select which pocket you're gonna put the eight ball and if you put it in a different hole, then you automatically would. I feel so lied to because on mini clip,
Starting point is 00:02:34 on the eight ball pool game. Mini-Clip, right? Going, going way back. Yeah, I know. But this is, it's from mini clip, right? The game, this game, which is the one that I know he plays all the time, you don't have to select a fucking pocket,
Starting point is 00:02:45 you just hit it in any of them. I felt lied to. That's normal rules. I felt like, that ain't competition. Justice for Sea Dog, man. That's all I want. Give me my 20K cash prize. The thing I noticed about playing pool
Starting point is 00:02:55 is like, I swear every country I play Paul in with like a different, person, everyone has their own fucking rules. I don't know what happens half the time. It's like, it's like Uno and Monopoly. Yeah, yeah. It's like the free parking spot on Monopoly. Everyone just makes up their own fucking rules.
Starting point is 00:03:09 No one knows what the actual rule is. It's just, no, no, the actual rule is nothing happens. That's just, that's the actual rule. Because in my house, what you would do is, you know how you have to pay the taxes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like 50 bucks to get out of jail. All of that money goes into the middle, and then if you land on free parking, you get the park. Yeah, I think that's a lot.
Starting point is 00:03:29 hopeless optimism because you know, we like to think our taxes go somewhere, perhaps to someone else. They don't, they just get sucked into a hole. They don't get, nothing comes of your taxes. You're not happy about it, okay? That's what happens. That makes more sense.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Yeah, nothing happens. And it's just taxes, bro. It's just taxes. I don't know how this one rule in monopoly just got spread around like globally, even though it was like not on any rule books, I think. Like pity rules, right? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:55 I think because it's so depressing to do a role in Monopoly and it's like, Wait, nothing? Like, nothing? Like, not even like a bad thing? Yeah. No, no, it's just nothing. Especially when it's already a game when nothing fucking happens sometimes.
Starting point is 00:04:07 It's like, oh, I landed on my own property. Could you imagine if there's a white circle on Mario Party and it was like, oh my God, what's gonna happen? Just nothing, nothing, nothing's gonna happen. Just white. Have you guys ever completed a game of Monopoly? I have never completed a game.
Starting point is 00:04:21 What? Yeah, of course. I don't know, I just don't have that patience. I would like, I am so competitive that I will like trap everyone. Of course you are. I will trap everyone. I will trap everyone. Everyone in the room until the game is over.
Starting point is 00:04:31 This just calls for a monopoly apparel now. We need to play Monopoly for. How long is a game of Monopoly meant to like last? Depends how much you suck. Because I've been in Monopoly games that I've lost like two, three hours and I'm just like, I don't, that's a short game. I don't, wait, do you, do you, okay,
Starting point is 00:04:47 this is the thing, right? Some people don't do this, do you let auctions happen? Because I think in the rules, auctions are, oh fuck, are they allowed. Yeah, yeah, they're allowed. I thought they were allowed. I could be wrong now. I just, I just get to a point in Monopoly
Starting point is 00:04:58 where just like the money is just like, it's just like, you know, that I mean where like people are just passing the cancel each other, which I'm, that's exactly what it feels like playing a game monopoly that I'm used. I like to do the mind games, just let my opponent's know immediately
Starting point is 00:05:10 from the get-go, I'm out playing them and maybe they give up. Maybe it would end faster if it wasn't for the free parking rule. Yeah, probably. Probably why. It's like, oh shit, I've got 50 bucks left. Thank God, I landed on free parking.
Starting point is 00:05:22 $2,000 comes to me and then it just keeps up here. There shouldn't be a way for someone who has like no properties to get back in the game. They should be out. They deserve to be out for their poor financial decisions. So maybe if we do play it on the podcast or whatever, then we should just completely get rid of that role.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Exactly. And free puckies just the way. Yeah, we'll get Malene on as well, right? Yeah, can play Monopoly. Mellin, do you want to play Monopoly with us for an episode? Yeah, she said that as a yes. She said, absolutely, boys. Yeah, going back to pool though,
Starting point is 00:05:48 like, what are the rules when you foul? Because I swear there's like a different fucking rule in every country, when you do a foul, like, do you get control of the white ball? Do you get two shots? Like what is the rules? So what is the official rules? I don't know what the official rules are,
Starting point is 00:06:03 but my understanding is if you sink the white ball, then you can place it wherever you want. You can place it wherever you want past like a certain line? No, or is it wherever you want? That's what I thought it was. But apparently it's not. Isn't that Snoke?
Starting point is 00:06:17 Yeah, that's a different game of four. Fuck, dude, I wanna say anything because I'm gonna be wrong. Yeah, yeah. We're probably wrong here. And there's gonna be someone in the comments that's like, I know the international rules are pool.
Starting point is 00:06:27 You are all wrong. If you pot two in a row, multi ball happens, right? Where there's, I'm chatting shit. I thought you were like, yeah, I'm chatting shit. I was like multi pot? What's that?
Starting point is 00:06:38 Just sweating. Like pinball, right? When all the, it's the best part, man. No, I think like, yeah, because every single person I've gone to Bagas with to play Paul, they're just like, oh, it's two shots, right? Like, no, no, no, no, it's behind this like white line
Starting point is 00:06:53 and you have to shoot it forward. No, you can place it anyway. It's different every single time. It's like, whatever. People just make up their own rules, there's always house rules, and I don't know, America works in its own system, Asia works on another system,
Starting point is 00:07:05 and Europe works on its own system. I don't fucking know, I just go with the flow most of the time. Yeah, because recently I found out with Uno, right? Do you stack the plus two cards? Yeah, that's a rule. No, it's not. That's not a rule? The official rule is you can't stack plus two.
Starting point is 00:07:18 That's so fucking boring. I know. That's so lame. I looked it up because there's so many people were like, no, you can stack plus two, or you can stack plus two. And everybody thought, yes, of course you can stack plus two. That makes the game so much more interesting.
Starting point is 00:07:29 I looked up the official rules, you can't stack plus twos. But that's not fun. Exactly. And also Joey, fucking, I remember this pissed me off dude. It's like a 30 minute game of Uno. And I just wanted it to end, right? And what I normally do in Uno is that I will save the all color cards until the end so that I can just win when I get Uno.
Starting point is 00:07:46 And Joey was like, no, no, you can't do that. You can't put down, it has to be a solid card. It is, that is an official rule. On the Uno game on the PC, you can do that. Explain that, Joey. Yeah. PC's not canon. Dude, what do you mean?
Starting point is 00:07:59 We were also very drunk then when we were playing that game. Yeah, we were also shouting out like a different stand-in for the different color. I was just like asleep by the end of it and Joey was the only one who wanted to drag on this suffering longer. It was like 2 a.m. or something.
Starting point is 00:08:12 We were all like heavily drunk. I was like struggling to keep my eyes over. I want to go home. And when you like ended the game, I was secretly like, yes, yes. It's finally over. And Joey goes, excuse me, that is not a rule. You cannot end the game.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Look, if I'm gonna, if you're gonna put me through a 30 minute fucking Uno game, I wanna win. I wanna win on the proper rules. It's, who gives the fuck, man? It's not, it's not even a skill-based game, by then, it's not, it's not. I just had fun just every time there was a red card, just being like, fucking, what was it?
Starting point is 00:08:44 It's like magicians are dead? Every single time. The people in the other room, Mr. Thil, what the fuck is happening in there? They're just screaming magicians red every like two seconds. Artaxan to green every time we dropped a green card. Before we move on to the actual topic of this podcast though, you're talking about, what was it, a mini clip?
Starting point is 00:09:01 Just reminded me of like all the, did you guys ever play like- my whole life on mini-clip? Like did you got, how many, do you guys remember like the good old fashioned flash games that you have to play on your school internet? Because actual games wouldn't work. I remember being like, in like, in like the lunch break,
Starting point is 00:09:16 being like, yo, I know which website Bloun's Tower Defense is on. Come from the show. Tap in this code. Blune's Towers Towers 2 is available on this URL. I know. It's all about the helicopter game, man. Yeah, I remember that helicopter game which was like pre- Angry Birds before Angry Birds.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Oh yeah, I remember that one. It was the most difficult gameplay with just the space bar. When that, when what, like, somehow one of those websites with all of the games got through the filter, it was like opening the floodgates and you were like, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Yeah, because I remember in my primary school, miniclip, it was immediately van. Oh yeah, miniclip was bland. But then someone was like, I know a website called albino sheep. And it's not blocked on the firewall. Don't tell the teachers. It's got all the games.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Did you ever have someone like, because in the schools, right, all the PCs are hooked up to like the main admin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One of the kids in my school, like, changed the, like, background of all the things, and it was the funniest fucking shit. It was like, because the teacher left the room
Starting point is 00:10:15 for one moment. He changed all the backgrounds to Alien versus Predator. But the Predator was just like a priest. And so a bunch of 13 year old kids are just doing their thing and they minimize like word document or like the fucking PowerPoint and they just see like fucking like
Starting point is 00:10:38 one of the popes holding hands with the predator, with the alien or something. And it was just the funniest fucking thing ever. I remember being so amused by this. That is just peak 12 year old. I love it, yeah. I remember just 12 year old me thought man,
Starting point is 00:10:51 nothing's ever gonna live up to this moment, bro. That was the funniest shit ever. The best prank of all the time. This is just gigabrain, bro. I can't imagine it. I remember like IT class back in the day. Like in school, IT class was just like a second playground time. Oh, did everyone just fucked around.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Yeah. Yeah, it was, nobody actually did the work. And I remember like if you had to do the work, it was like a five minute job. Yeah, because they were teaching you stuff that you were probably already using. Like, they used to teach us like Microsoft Word and PowerPoint, not even like Excel.
Starting point is 00:11:21 And everyone, everyone at age like 10, Already knows I'd use a PowerPoint. At least to our age they did. I don't know about now, it might be different, but when I was growing up, everyone knew to use PowerPoint, everyone had made a PowerPoint for like every other class that they had. Yeah, but they had to go above and beyond
Starting point is 00:11:36 by being like, do you know a thing called transitions? They will really spice up a presentation. Word, words are. Yeah, clip art. Oh God. God, I remember first discovering transitions on PowerPoint and you just used that for every fucking slide and you thought you were the fucking
Starting point is 00:11:54 Every single letter had a transition. There was that one kid who would just do like, okay, bear in mind, this transition is like 30 seconds long. Just watching each single letter just bouncing into the screen. The star shake in the middle. And the last little moment would take fucking forever to lock in. I remember that one man.
Starting point is 00:12:12 I remember this one time in my IT class, we had to create a website, right? So we could choose a website on whatever topic we wanted to create. So at the time... Why I was sponsored by Squarespace, right? I know, this would be perfect for Squarespace, but yeah, I chose to make a website on the original Nintendo DS, right? Okay, very specific.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Yeah, no, no, I don't know why, because I just, I was a Nintendo kid back then, and I remember like I was like doing a really good job. My teacher was like, at the time, really impressed at the website I had created because I was actually putting effort in and like the other kids who were just like dicking around like you do in IT class.
Starting point is 00:12:48 And then he was asking me, oh, so, so what are you gonna name it? And I was just 10 year old, I was like nine or 10 year olds, trying to think of the coolest name possible. I was like, how about DS Dominator? No, no, I got a better one. How about DS Dominatrix?
Starting point is 00:13:02 Oh no. Because I was like, Dominator, Dominatrix, for a nine year old who doesn't know what it means. Sounds like a cool fucking word. It's like Dominator and the Matrix. Yeah, that's like exactly my mindset. And I just remember the teacher's face being like, That's great, but probably shouldn't call it that.
Starting point is 00:13:25 And I was like, why? It's such a cool word, Dominatrix. Tell me why. I'm gonna call it Dominatrix. And he refused to let me call it Dominatrix. And nine year old me was so fucking pissed because I thought of a fucking brilliant name. You don't understand me, the genius.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Have you seen the Matrix? It's epic. So yeah, that's going back to GCSE IT class or whatever it was back there. I had a similar thing where, I also had to make a website as well for like my IT class. You didn't have to do that? No. Oh, okay, because I-
Starting point is 00:13:57 I- I didn't even think my teacher knew how to make a website. Like, I don't think he was gonna teach us. Because I had to make a website, but it was when I was like 16 years old. Right, it wasn't like 10 years old. And I was like, okay, I gotta think of a cool name for my website. How about the anime man?
Starting point is 00:14:13 Wait, does this still exist? Yeah, it does exist. Oh my God. It's the anime man. Dot WordPress.com. Because we used WordPress back. Did you like do anime reviews and all that shit? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Oh, that's how I got started. And then I was like, We still go on this. What? Oh yeah, it should be up there still. Go on there like a year ago, because I did a video where I was just basically roasting my own horrible reviews and there were absolutely garbage.
Starting point is 00:14:40 What was your very first review? Serial Experiments Lane. Oh, that's a, that's a her kidding. Yeah, I wasn't like, fairy tale review, one piece review. It's like, I feel bad for just reviewing bleach My first video. No, but I gained so much of,
Starting point is 00:14:55 I don't know how to fuck people like came back. They were like, yeah, dude, I got to the point where people were like, I would like to request a review from you. Can you review this particular series? And I was like, okay. Were there many anime reviews at that time though, in English?
Starting point is 00:15:09 There were a lot of like, there weren't a lot of people on YouTube who were doing it, but there were lots and lots of like anime blogging websites. Yeah, it's pretty around 2000s, right? Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty, yeah. That was like 20s and views
Starting point is 00:15:21 Yeah, like that. Yeah. It was the 2010s, but then it got to the point where someone was like, hey, you should do some video reviews. Yeah. I was like, okay. And then I did that and then- That was the origin story.
Starting point is 00:15:34 And that's the origin story. If I can dust it off that chopper hat, you were like, it's time. Yeah. It's time. It's time. The giant rainbow beanie as well that I used to wear. Like, God, so hideous. Did you guys have that one really cool teacher in school?
Starting point is 00:15:47 Like, for me it was the IT teacher. Like, he didn't give a shit. about what we did. But every other teacher in my school at least was a fucking asshole, but there was just the one IT teacher for me that was really cool. I had that, that was our physics teacher in high school. He was such a fucking character.
Starting point is 00:16:05 And I don't know if he did it on purpose just to be entertaining because maybe he thought that not a lot of kids would take physics as a major. But I took physics as I just found physics interesting. But it was just, imagine this like middle-aged, just completely bold dude. And him trying to teach you about like how electrons move and he's carrying around this giant stick.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Like I'm talking like twice the size of a cricket bat. Like just as thick as a cricket bat. And in like marker on it, it's called the gentle persuader. Oh my God. And he would just swing this thing around. And whenever there was a kid who was asleep at his desk, he would just get the gentle persuader and just whack it on the table to get the kid to wake up.
Starting point is 00:16:49 It's always the physics teachers that are like fucking nuttyest, right? They're always either the most passionate about it or insane. But the absolute clap of a sound that this thing would make, like you could hear it probably from across the school of just this giant piece of wood clapping against another
Starting point is 00:17:03 giant piece of wood and the kids after a while, like after like two weeks, no kid would fall asleep in his cloth. Just because he's just swinging this thing around. That's asserting dominance as a teacher. The dominatrix. The doc on dominatrix. Asserting dominatrix right there.
Starting point is 00:17:19 No, but he was like really cool. Like he made physics really fun for me. And I feel that if I didn't have him as a teacher, I probably would have found like the whole, all the sciences and physics just really fucking tedious and boring. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, I remember the first time I read
Starting point is 00:17:33 a great teacher on Yzuka. Fucking one of my favorite manga of all time. So good. And I remember. You should. Yeah, to give you a synopsis, it's about like this teacher who is like a 22 year old delinquent, like never finished college,
Starting point is 00:17:47 I don't think, or like was a dropout to college. And basically, he takes over this delinquent classroom and just kind of reforms them. He doesn't teach them like the curriculum. He teaches them life lessons. And it's a pretty simple premise, but what sells it is how good of a teacher
Starting point is 00:18:03 Onizuka is and just like, I wish I had a teach like that in my own life. That was just, you know, you know, Mr. Sullivan, IT teacher, I'm never going to forget you. But, you know, you were no Onizuka. You ain't great teacher, someone. The coolest thing he did was let us call us, Let us call him by his first names a few times.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's how you know. That's how you know. That's how you know. Damn, bro. Yeah, there's a special moment when you're, in your senior year of high school, where your teacher's like, just, just call me by my name. And he's like, yeah, all right, all right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:35 You're the real one, man. We're real bros now. We're friends, right? Yeah, we're friends, right? Yeah, I don't know. My old's your tutor was like really nice. She was so cool. I did so many dumb stuff that she was like,
Starting point is 00:18:48 she had my back. She was like, no, no, no, I got this. The other teachers. Cause like one time when I got in a fight a different time from the other stories. Yeah, out of the million fights. Yeah, she was pregnant and like, she was teaching a class and this guy,
Starting point is 00:19:03 so one of the guys was like, I was having a fight with him and I fucking rammed him through her, like, her class door. And the door slammed open, like, absolutely like smacked her like whiteboard and stuff and like made so much noise. And yeah, she didn't tell me off. She was like, it's okay. And she was like, she was like, I know, I know he's a piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:19:22 I got you, bro. This kid drove all the teachers insane. He was the worst bro, and he always got away with it because the teachers just stopped, like, do you ever have that kid where the teacher just gave up? Yeah, yeah, he's such a piece of shit, there's no point even trying to discipline him.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Yeah, yeah, yeah, was that kid. I'm sure you guys know. Yeah, we all, I think we all had that one kid in school. Yeah, yeah, and then, like, when my phone went off on an exam, which is not good. Just like normally on auto fail. Yeah, right there. Yeah, so like, what happened was,
Starting point is 00:19:48 is that I was like, super into enter Shikari, right, at this age. And, uh, so my, my second name is C, right? Yeah. On the exam, so I was right at the front always. Yeah. And, uh, I turned my phone off, right? And I didn't realize my phone could turn itself on to turn the alarm on. What? I did not know, is that? Is that true? Some phones could do this. What kind of sentient shit is that? Yeah. So this is the back of the day when the phones had the, like, the batteries you could take out. Yeah, yeah, right?
Starting point is 00:20:14 Oh, yeah. So, so my other friend, I remember distinctly before the exam, he's like, I'm taking the battery out, dude. just in case, I'm like, that's fucking dumb, but I'm just leaving mine in, man. And obviously, I was sitting down in my history exam. And I hit something mumbling in the back and I'm like, fucking idiot, whose phone is that? What a fucking loser? I finished the exam comfortably.
Starting point is 00:20:34 I kept getting louder and I was like, whatever, oh, you know. And then I go to like to the back, because you put all your back, you put all your bags in the back, yeah, and I'm like, where's my back? What the fuck's my back? And then I was like, fuck, is that my phone? No, no, no, it's not right. I got fucking grilled by the headmaster,
Starting point is 00:20:52 who was like, you're trying to cheat? Trying to cheat? They were like, you know this alarm, and it was fucking enter Shikari. Like, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, in the like, fucking whatever room it was while I was doing this two hour of exams, right? It was just in the like, the reception area.
Starting point is 00:21:08 They were keeping it. They were like, you know it kept going off. And I'm like, alarms tend to do that, yeah. Out of every ringtone you could have chosen, you should just like an answer Shikari. Because that shit woke you up, man. I don't know, like, I would know. I would never, like I've tried putting like my favorite song
Starting point is 00:21:24 as an alarm and then you realized after about a month. You begin to hate the song. Yeah, yeah. Because I remember in university, I did like exactly the same with like the killers or like sometimes muse. And I'm just like, well, I hate the song now. This is not why I pick the alarm too. It's because this entry song at the time
Starting point is 00:21:40 was like their most popular and it just started off with do-da-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-d-d-do you know this one? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the series was like immediately screaming. And yeah, so then I was just like, I remember I was fucking tearing up. I'm like, no, I'm not trying to cheat. It's just a really like into Chicago.
Starting point is 00:21:55 She's just an alarm, bro. And they're like, can you prove it? And I'm like, it says nine o'clock, man. It's a little alarm bell and everything. Because they treated it. Bear in mind right, this school is like 200 kids total. Yeah, this is a high school with 200 kids. This is like a very small school.
Starting point is 00:22:10 And they have my bag on the table, like in an airport being like, open it up. Open it up, what's inside? Like TSA. Yeah, yeah. They literally like, it's a bomb. They're like, open it up. What's inside, bro?
Starting point is 00:22:18 What's inside? Yeah. And I pull it out, I'm like, it's the phone doing it. And then yeah, they asked me what was it? And then could you prove it's an alarm? I show them, it's alarm, then like, I'm calm. And then they just let me go. Well, imagine if they grilled you being like the shit song.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Yeah. Enda Shikari, what are you? I think I stopped listening to Enda Shikari after that because I think every time I got like, because bear in mind, right? As a 16 year old thinking that you're possibly gonna be like kicked out of like exams. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Like, my mom's gonna kill me. I'm gonna be destroyed for life, but luckily they gave me a slap on a wrist. Although I'm pretty sure they should have like disqualified that exam result. But they- I purposely chose a song that I knew I was going to hate because that just, especially if it was like an alarm
Starting point is 00:22:58 to wake me up because you can't listen to an alarm of a song that you hate for too long. Yeah. So it just- That's actually really clever. It further incites me to be like, I gotta turn this shit off immediately. So I chose fucking Yon Kat. I like Nyan Kat.
Starting point is 00:23:12 I did not. I could not listen to that for more than five seconds. Right. And that's exactly I was like, this perfect alarm material. Because at the moment, like, imagine just like 8 a.m. And you're just having a nice sleep and then just from downstairs, you just hear,
Starting point is 00:23:25 ya, ginn, ginn, yeah. It's like, shit, I gotta. Songs like that help me get in the zone though, like when I'm gaming, like repetitive. Like, it's, dude, I could, man. I remember I got like four hours in. This fucking brain, man. What's the, what's the dance till you're dead?
Starting point is 00:23:42 Song, you know the one. Uh, it's like, Yeah, the 10 hour compilation. They got like, in one. on gaming session, I got like six hours into the, the Deku dance to your dead thing. Dude, to be fair, that song is sick. I have gone through like a few hours
Starting point is 00:23:58 at that 10 hour. That song when you're gaming, dude, it's like, you're in the fucking zone, dude. And then you check over, you see Deku head bang and you're like, nice. Because that song is just like audible crack, you know, you just, especially when you're gaming. It's hacking your brain, though.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Yeah, yeah, it just, it just probably gets you in a zone. Nianke, on the other hand, is just the complete opposite of that. where it's just like this really annoying noise that you just can't pinpoint. Yeah, yeah. And just like, Audible, right? It just doesn't do anything, but it just makes it feel sluggish.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Audible heroin? Does heroin not do anything for you, Joey? What are you taking it, bro? It's more just like, the more you take, the more you're just like, I can't function. This is obviously coming from an analogy from three people who have never taken heroin before. It's like that office joke, right,
Starting point is 00:24:45 where it's like, why do they always talk about it's like crack? They've never tried crack. That's actually one of the few jokes I love from the office. Oh my good. I remember one time I was hanging out with Jeff, Mother's Baseman. Sorry Jeff, I'm gonna kill you out for this. But I remember we were, I think it was at an AX party. And we were talking about like how much, like some crazy shit
Starting point is 00:25:07 that we've done. And I was talking about, oh yeah, it's like downing a pint of cocaine. I'm like, that's not how you do cocaine. I was just, I was just, like, I mean it was just the blinking meme, it was like, Jeff, that's not how cocaine's done. You don't down a pint of cocaine. Have you downed a pint of anything?
Starting point is 00:25:30 So yeah, thank you for that, Jeff. I'm definitely gonna be using that in the future. And the subred is definitely gonna be using that, so I guarantee. It's like downing a pint of cocaine. Talking about downings. Snorting a line of heroin. To get to the actual topic that we were gonna talk about
Starting point is 00:25:50 before we went on this massive tangent, as we always do. Yeah. I guess we wanted to talk about food, right guys? I love food. I love food. Who doesn't love food? I only exist for the next meal. I love consuming things in my mouth. That came out really wrong.
Starting point is 00:26:04 I'm glad you prefaced where you do it. Perhaps a pint of cocaine. Yeah. I love what a pint of cocaine is in my mouth. Yeah. Yeah, I guess the reason I wanted to bring this up is, Joey, you recently chose to become a pescatarian. Yes, but let me explain.
Starting point is 00:26:20 I'm pescatarian in like inverted commas. Yes, yes, yes. So I didn't decide to like fully transition because I like meat too much. Yes. But I figured just for about a month, Aki and I were like, let's see if we can be pescatarian. Because I feel if there's any country
Starting point is 00:26:36 that is perfect to be a pescatarian, it would be Japan. Because, yeah, pescatarian, if you don't know, means it's basically vegetarian, but you can also eat fish. Yeah. Fish on animals, they don't have souls. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:26:48 They're not real meat. Fish aren't really. So yeah, so I figured just as like, not so much like as a morality thing, but more just to better my diet and just eat a little bit healthier, we were like, okay, let's try and be pescatarian for like one month because it's gonna be the,
Starting point is 00:27:03 so basically my last month of my 25th year is gonna be me as a pescatarian. And then on my 26th birthday at the end of September, I'm gonna be like, give me all the meat. Give me every meat. I don't wanna see a piece of greenery on my plate. Dude, when I was like, I feel like I was raised where if the meal didn't have meat in it, it's not a meal.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Yeah, that's how I feel. Maybe that's like a, is that a British thing? I don't think so. I think it's an Asian thing as well. Yeah. Like I remember, I still to this day, I cannot get full unless I have some kind of meat. Give me a crumb of chicken. A crumb of chicken.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Like I do count fish as meats, but if I do, I just have no meat. Yeah, there needs to be like something dead on my plate. Yeah, that's how it is. I need something dead on my plate unless like, cause I've tried having like vegetarian meals and then I get filled up and then I get hungry an hour later. Like without fail.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Yeah, I mean, it's, I guess. And I don't know if that's like a mental thing, being my body's like, bro. There's probably some diet expert watching us who can explain. I'm just gonna, we're gonna go off all anecdotal evidence. So don't take anything we say seriously. Yeah, so basically,
Starting point is 00:28:11 Yeah, I figured, you know, I like fish a lot, and Japan is such a seafood heavy country. Yeah, you could walk down the road and get some sushi or get, you know, go to the supermarket and buy pre-cooked fish or stuff like that, right? And all of it tastes so fucking good. It's also, you also don't have to worry about it here,
Starting point is 00:28:26 I feel like, I, dude, whenever someone ordered, like, oysters or shit in a, like, not extremely expensive place in the UK, I'm like, bro, all right. Yeah, oysters are like, you never order oysters unless you trust the place you're ordering oysters. And it's like, also, if the, The Indian curry place, the Indian curry place.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Don't fuck with shrimp. That's always a coin to him no matter what. At least in the UK, that is a fucking gamble unless you have a place. Even if you have a place, you're like, but do they treat the seafood correctly? They've probably got it. I need to have seen this fish die in my face.
Starting point is 00:28:58 I feel like there are some certain cuisines, like in the UK. In the UK, not just in the UK. In Thailand, especially, like street food in Thailand taste amazing. But would you trust it for like to part hygienic test. Not exactly, but it doesn't stop it from taste. You take, you take that risk.
Starting point is 00:29:16 And some of the dirtiest looking places taste the best. I don't know why. It's true, it's true. I don't know why. But it's like an AX, right, when you're walking down AX, and those hot dogs stands are there. Oh, yeah. And they've had these hot dogs in these, like,
Starting point is 00:29:29 cardboard packaging, and it's been out there all fucking day. Yeah. And then they just chuck them on the grill. And sure, it looks amazing on the grill, right? But, like, those have been soggy for like eight hours. Yeah, dude, they smell fucking enough. They do. They smell amazing, but it's like, what is it, like the fucking succubuses, right?
Starting point is 00:29:46 Unlike all the stories, right? They look amazing, right? It's too good to be true, don't. Your stomach's gonna hate you. The only people, every time someone gets sick at a convention, it's always because they go to- It's always the hog-ahs. And I'm like, why did you do it?
Starting point is 00:29:58 And they're like, you just look so good. I couldn't help myself. And it's like, dumb fuck. There is like a Denny's, like, everything around here. I'm not saying, actually. There's literally a chick-fil-aid down there. I say that, but Denny's probably a gamble as well, In America, definitely.
Starting point is 00:30:11 But I kind of had a similar thing in the Philippines with street food because I, you know, the one time I went to the Philippines to go see Archie's family, I was like, you know, there's all this amazing looking street food, but I feel if I don't make the right choice,
Starting point is 00:30:26 I'll probably just gonna die on the road. So it was really weird. I did, like, get, not food poisoning, but I definitely got like some bad diarrhea from one of the street food. But it was from a mango. that I had. Wow.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Yeah. Which is weird, right? I really do you like that man. Yeah. It was like of all the, of all the weird things. I had fucking Bullwood like that I just bought off a random woman on the street. Bullock is a duck fetus. Oh, dude, that's nasty, bro.
Starting point is 00:30:57 You would think that that would get me sick. But no. It wasn't the fetus. It was a fucking mango. I can understand if you've like grown up with food like that, but how can you like, you know, is it like an Australian, Japanese Dude, see a fucking like a bird. Yeah. Just be like, yo, fucking that looks tasty, bro.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Give me two of those. Hey man, Arki's dad was like, yeah, that shit tastes good. I'm like, all right, I trust you. And so I bought two. Is that the weirdest thing you've eaten? It's probably the weirdest thing I've eaten. See, I trust people when they say that,
Starting point is 00:31:26 but I'm looking at them the whole time, like, I do not expect anything from this. I'm gonna eat it just to entertain you, but I'm expecting this to taste like shit. I mean, yeah, I filmed a video on it as well. It's on my second channel, but like, I went hot because apparently, And then I mean that like, oh yeah,
Starting point is 00:31:40 this is like one of the, you know, Fear Factor, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Apparently she said that, oh, this bullet stuff is like one of the last foods that they eat on Fear Factor. It's like, if you can eat this, you can eat anything.
Starting point is 00:31:51 I'm like, but it's just the duck fetus. I mean, I'll eat it, I'm just not gonna be happy about it. Yeah, I looked at that motherfucker dead in the eyes, one eating it too. Wake up, wake up. I was like, I was like, yes, you are going into my stomach. It's like in Japan, they have this,
Starting point is 00:32:05 at the sushi restaurants, normally fish restaurants. They have like the sperm, and this shit is disgusting. Oh, shiraku? Yeah, dude. And even when you speak to Japanese, they're like, yo, you either just despise that shit or you love it.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Yeah. It's a quiet taste. It is a quiet. It looks like a brain that has lost all the water. Like it's falling apart, right? It's all untangled, bro. And it's just, and then when someone's like, what is it, what is it?
Starting point is 00:32:28 Oh, no, just try it, he-hee. And then you try it and like, oh, it's a sperm sack. Yeah, and it tastes like how you would imagine a sperm sac. Yeah, yeah. It does feel like you just got gizzed in the mouth. God jizzed in the mouth. No, no, it totally does. Cause I remember, I remember, like,
Starting point is 00:32:41 the weirdest thing, like, I would say I'd had was, like, in China, where it's, you know, like, I was with a friend and their family, and I don't know what it is. I don't know if this is an Asian thing, but whenever they see a foreigner trying, they always ordered, like, the most exotic food and then try to get them to try it.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Right, right, right, right. My parents do exactly the same, and their family did exactly the same to me. So they were ordering all this weird shit, and then they ordered this soup, and they tell me, oh, try, try the soup, it's just beef soup, right? So I start, I start chowing down on this beef soup.
Starting point is 00:33:12 And then I was like, hmm, this is, this is all right, this is all right. And then I get to this like, really chewy, chewy parts that have to like really, like, bite my way through. Right. I'm like, oh, what is this? And it had like the most awful, like, after taste you can imagine.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Right. It just like, it just like stayed in your mouth forever. And then I asked them, what the hell was that chewy bit? And then my friend asked, you know, their family they translate it to me and they said, oh no, that's probably the bull's testicles. I'm like, I'm like, bro. I'm like, hold on a second, what is this?
Starting point is 00:33:47 Oh, this is a bull's penis soup. And I'm just like, why did you not, why did you not lead with that? Yeah, this feels like information I should have been told at the start of this meal. They knew exactly what they were doing. They were like, oh, this is beef soup. This is beef soup.
Starting point is 00:34:00 You can have this. I don't know, I'm one of those people who would not be mad at that kind of stuff just because I want to- For you dick, bro. Yeah. I wanna try all the weird shit. Like, because I know.
Starting point is 00:34:10 No, I do as well, I do, John. Yeah, because I know, right, I know, if I went to a restaurant like that by myself and I looked at the menu and I saw Bull's penis testicle, I bought a bull's penis soup. Oh my God, Joe. That was a fountain, bro. Joey's like salivating out of thought.
Starting point is 00:34:26 You're like, you're like, it's just taste it so good. See, it's like people like that, right? I'm like, yeah, order it, order it. I'm gonna look you in the eye, I'm gonna eat this shit. I want you to know that I'm gonna eat it. And I'm gonna tell you it tastes
Starting point is 00:34:37 like shit. Yeah, I'm not gonna give you the satisfaction. No, but like, again, like, if I saw that on the menu, I probably wouldn't order it myself. Right? No, there's no way. The beef burger. Yeah, I'll get something that I'm familiar with. So I would rather someone just order me some weird shit
Starting point is 00:34:54 and then trick me into eating it so that I could be like, well, I may not have-thrax. It's like, well, I may not have, you know, enjoyed it, but hey, now I can say that I've eaten bull's testicles. You know? I do think I'd be very happy if someone would have been like, hey, that's a dick and I'm like, I mean like, to be fair, they disguised it very well.
Starting point is 00:35:12 You know, sometimes- Is it gay? Is it gay? It didn't look like a dick, because it was like all minced up into like a ball. Oh, I didn't think they would just chop up and be like, there we go. Yeah, it's just a full dick on a plate.
Starting point is 00:35:25 I'm like, what is this? Oh, it's just ball meat. And I'm like, what kind of ball meat? That looks very much like a testicle right there. I think the problem is with stuff like this for me, and I'm sure a lot of people can relate to this. I don't want my fucking meals to be a fucking, like, adventure game for someone, dude.
Starting point is 00:35:42 I just wanna eat, bro. Like sometimes I just wanna enjoy my meal, have a nice time. You just wanna skip the story, right? Yeah, and not turn into like a fucking bear grills TV show in the middle of this restaurant. You know what I mean? Like, I hate it when people try and do that, like try this awful thing.
Starting point is 00:35:55 I'm like, why would I try that awful thing? You've just told me it's awful. Why are you trying to make me eat something more? I'm the complete opposite. I will happily be like, yeah, I'll do that. Joey's that guy in a restaurant who just like orders the weirdest shit. Yeah, Hugh and Aki both do it.
Starting point is 00:36:06 We're sitting down, it'll be like, so who ordered the slime shit? You order that, I like that. And I'm like, that's a lie. You don't like it. You're just ordering it to make yourself look like your fucking bad grills at this Ezekiah. Just admit it, okay?
Starting point is 00:36:20 Admit it. No one likes it. I love the fact that every time we get to that moment, every time without fail, you're like, do you guys wanna try some? And every time we just say, no, Joey, that doesn't look appetizing. Well, I want you guys to try it. Joey finishes, what is it?
Starting point is 00:36:34 What is this go, what is it? You know the go, It's like a, oh, takkawasa? Yeah, it's fucking awful. Yeah, it's like, it's like, uh, octopus that, and wasabi and you put in a blender. I've never seen any Japanese person order it around me. So, I mean, I don't plenty of Japanese people eat it.
Starting point is 00:36:48 No, no. Why do you think it's like a staple menu at Izakaya? Nah, it's on the bottom, dude. And then after that, there's this other, like, fish that, I don't know how they prepare it, but it's just got the consistency of a tire with no taste. Oh, the, uh, a toenail. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like the toenail thing.
Starting point is 00:37:04 It tastes, it tastes and looks like a to And it feels like a tone. It has the, it's ray. Stingray. Stingray fin, right? Yeah, it's the kind of thing where it's like, yeah, sure, when I'm drunk enough, I'll chew on it and I'll have no complaints.
Starting point is 00:37:17 But when it's like, I want to have a meal, why would I fill myself up with something that doesn't taste like anything and takes me 10 minutes to eat and just frustrates me? You had that the other day, right, when we went to a restaurant and I ordered, what you, what you did? What you do?
Starting point is 00:37:30 What you do? The robbery stuff? Yeah, I was just like, Joe was like, it's zero calories. And I'm like, so what if it's zero calories? And I'm like, so what if it's zero calories? Well, because you're always on about, like, how many calories does it have? I'm just thinking, like, sometimes, you know, in a meal, you're like, all right, I don't want to kill myself, right?
Starting point is 00:37:43 Yeah, my dad, my dad described that at once is eating an eraser. Eating an eraser. Yeah, it's like that's pretty much what it looks like. It's like, sometimes when you hear zero calories, you're like, oh, it's going to taste bad. Because I don't know, like, because celery has zero calories. I don't know if you've, I don't know if you've eaten celery on its own. Yeah, it takes more celery. On its own?
Starting point is 00:38:02 Yeah. Oh, bro, cellar tastes like shit on its own. Oh, it does taste like shit. What the fuck? It tastes like paint. That's not even a quiet taste. It just tastes like paint, paint removal in vegetable form.
Starting point is 00:38:13 It's like Brussels sprouts. No, I love Brussels sprouts. Get the fuck out. Russell sprouts is like F tier vegetable. Why do people put it on roast? Everyone's just, it's a massive lie. I love Brussels sprouts, man. Get rid of those fucking Brussels sprouts on my roast.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Because they have such like a really nice distinct flavor to them that like no one has. It's like bitter. I don't know. I like it's just like, it's just like, Anti-humami with the roast. Do you like broccoli? Do you like broccoli?
Starting point is 00:38:41 Broccoli's okay. But you have to keep in mind, we're talking to someone who doesn't like ketchup. Yeah, so Gar- Like what the fuck? Okay, before we go into more in-depth food discussion, Garant doesn't like condiments, basically. I just like the way things are meant to taste.
Starting point is 00:38:55 So barbecue sauce, no? No, no, no. Ketchup? I just like. No, we're gonna go through all the condiments here just to make sure. Mustard? Yeah, mustard, no.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Mustard, if it's not like, if it's just like the beans. Mayo, you don't like any mayo, right? No, I don't like. Tabasca or anything like that, maybe? Tabasca, I don't really see that as a condiment. It's something like if I need an extra kick to make it more spicy.
Starting point is 00:39:14 So when you eat like fries, it's just plain? Yeah, it's just salt and pepper. That's so sad. That's so sad. No, that's why I like my thin fries because it like absorbs the spices. It's just oil. It's just oil.
Starting point is 00:39:27 We said that the other day, like, because we were talking about how we like the thick, like cut fries. Yeah, I like the thin fries. Yeah, but then God was like, oh, I don't like the thick because I taste the potato. Like, yeah, that's what a chip is. No, I want to taste, you know, the,
Starting point is 00:39:44 this can sound so bad. Like it's the oil flavor or the salt and, or the salt and pepper flavor. If it's like too much potato, you're just eating, it just feels like eating starch with no flavorings. Yeah, but sometimes if it's done perfectly, that starch is just fluffy and beautiful. And it works so well when you put it with like ketchup
Starting point is 00:40:01 or like mayonnaise or, you know, whatever you put with chips. Yeah, when you mix the ketchup and mayo together, you get a nice buries. That makes me gag so bad, man. I fucking hate ketchup and mayo. Like ketchup and mayo. Go eat your dick, though. Go with your dick.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Like by themselves. I like disgusting enough to me. But to mix them together and they form this like pink color. I'm just like, oh, get that shit out of my face, man. No, fry sauce is so good, dude. So like, can you like go into like... I can't be the only one here. I can't be the only one here.
Starting point is 00:40:32 No, I think with this case you are the only one. When you go into like any, like, any like normal chain in the UK, you can't get it because it's called burger sauce, right? McDonald's, it's a thousand island sauce. Yeah, they don't do it in like McDonald's, KFC or everything. That's like ranch with ketchup, right? I think so, but mayo with, uh,
Starting point is 00:40:49 mayo with ketchup mixed is just burger sauce in the UK. Oh yeah, it's called fries. It's called fries sauce in the US. Okay, yeah, yeah. And you can't get it unless you go to those like dirty chicken shops in London, right, right. You go to them and you gotta like fucking haggle with them just to get like the fucking like ketchup.
Starting point is 00:41:02 They're like, they're so stingy, bro. They won't give you anything. And I used to go into mine all the time, dude, and I felt like I was getting mugged off. Because I was like the only white guy in this area, and I would always go in like, yes, I would like, five wings, a burger, and then people come in like, yo, what's up, boss man, I'll have the wing set?
Starting point is 00:41:20 And I'm like, fuck dude, oh, Jesus Christ. I'm getting, I felt so out of place because I just didn't know how to talk. Do I say boss man to the guy? Can I say boss man? Is that weird? I feel weird going, yes, I'll just take a fry, please, and a tango, you know, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:35 I'll take a fry boss, man. Yeah. And I just felt bad when there was like 12 year olds, like fighting in the area next to me and I'm just trying to order the chicken. I'm like, I just want to, I just want to me on. I just, can I have burger sauce please? While the other guys are fucking like jumping over the counter
Starting point is 00:41:48 to grab it. They would do that. They would put their hands over the counter and grab the shit. Really? Yeah, and the fucking audacity. I know, the audacity of these pictures. Actually, there is one source that I do like.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Go on. It's very specific, but it's peri, peri, or na-a-ya-a-sorse. But are they in the same category? That's like a marinade. Yeah, that's just like, I feel like if it's more on like the marinade side of things. I love marinate.
Starting point is 00:42:09 That's like terriarchy, right? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like like, like, Nando's in Australia? Yeah, we do, but it's fucking expensive. So no one goes to it. It's amazing in the UK. I fucking miss Nando's here. I miss it so much.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Cheeky Nando's, your voice. Yeah, to be fair, I feel UK, I tried Nando's in the UK, and it's infinitely better than the one of Australia. People always chat shit about it, but like the thing is, is that it's like the perfect in between a fast food place in a restaurant where sometimes you just want the chicken
Starting point is 00:42:32 and you want to get out. Right, right. Also, it's, it's one of the few places in the UK that we can be proud of in terms of like food. Because when you think of British cuisines, you're like, what can we be proud about? Oh yeah, beans on toast, that's British cuisine, right? Man, what's with British people getting bullied online
Starting point is 00:42:49 all the time now, man? Remember when it used to be British people were like cool in 2012 and Harry Potter was in full steam and Tumblr loved British people? And then now it's just like, ha ha ha ha, he said Choos Day. He said Chew's Day, in it? You too. Water, water, water.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Bottle! He likes bean, Yes, I like beans on toast, okay? I can eat it as many times as I need to, God damn it. There's a limit with me with beans. Bakes beans. Yeah, like baked beans like. Why?
Starting point is 00:43:13 Because it's a funny word. B, I love like saying joining the B and beans. I can imagine if I wasn't born in the UK, I would think baked beans are just like, why would you ever eat baked beans? Well, I mean, because in Australia we eat baked beans quite often as well. Like, sometimes I would eat it on toast.
Starting point is 00:43:28 Sometimes I would just fucking crack open a can. Yeah, in university, I basically lived off just beans and cans, and I would just heat them up and eat them for dinner. That sounds disgusting to me. Oh yeah, it was. I wouldn't be able to live off of that. I didn't know how to cook, so I would just boil pasta
Starting point is 00:43:41 and put salt on it and eat the pasta. I love how the cooking experience at university, it's just how many ways can I cook pasta? It's just that. It took me like a year to figure out that you could just pour the pot sauces on top of the pasta. Because I was so like content and I didn't want to look stupid in front of my uni, like the maze.
Starting point is 00:44:00 And I remember my mom offered to teach me how to cook, and I was like, I don't need that. How hard can it be? I got this. How hard can it be? So yeah, I was eating like plain pasta and beans for like a year. Yeah. It's pretty depressing.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Like cup ramen. Oh yeah, cup. I, the first day of university, I went and bought like a crate of pot noodles and left off them. That was beautiful. You can't go wrong with pot noodles though. We should probably get back on to Japanese food, didn't we?
Starting point is 00:44:22 Well, going back to, well, going back to Javan, like recently, funnily enough, I just went to the cup ramen museum in Yokohama. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Which the only reason we went to the cup ramen museum was just because we just there. It was just there. I was like, whatever, it's something to do.
Starting point is 00:44:37 But it was actually like really interesting and really fun. It was not some place I thought to go that would be like a fun, exciting place to go. But it was fun to learn about cup ramen. Like I did, I had no idea that basically cup ramen like exists because of Americans. Because like instant noodle was, instant noodle was like invented, right?
Starting point is 00:44:59 And like the usual packeted, packeted way. And they tried to sell it to America. And Americans were just like, how do we eat this? What, you have to use a fucking chopstick with bowls? Like that's too inefficient. So they just start putting it in like their soda cans. Or the, no, not the soda cans, the soda cups. Just like poured like put the ramen in and just,
Starting point is 00:45:19 and just put water, hot water in. And that's how cup ramen was invented. Oh wow. Yeah, it was fact- Raman is an American invention. Yeah, well, it's- It was invented in Japan, the method of doing the noodles. Yeah, but it was when they tried to sell it to Americans
Starting point is 00:45:32 that he saw Americans do it. doing that and he was like, let's just put it in the fucking cup. So thank you, America, for cup ramen. And yeah, if you're in prison, it's your currency. Because you, I mean, Cup ramen currency. It's actually currency in most present. That's so funny.
Starting point is 00:45:46 But yeah, in terms of like Japanese food, what are some Japanese food you want more people to know about all that you've discovered since moving to Japan that maybe not many people like know about? Well, you know, I mean, I already know you're honest. We've talked about this before. Go on, Joey. Simp for your dish, go on.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Yes, I'm simping for a little dish called skimmin. It's not ramen, it's skimmin. So basically, skimmin to oversimplify, think of ramen, but separate the noodles from the broth and make that broth thick as a bitch. I will say when I first, when I was first, like, I saw it on the menu, I was like, why the fuck would I want my noodles separated from the broth?
Starting point is 00:46:29 That sounds like it's like demarinating. Yeah, It's an extra step, right? Yeah, it sounded like it was just making the noodles less flavorful. But it just didn't make any logical sense. But somehow it makes the noodles even more flavorful when you dip them into this and you basically
Starting point is 00:46:43 have the broth on the noodles. Right, it's fine. Because the thing with ramen broth is that it's very liquidy, because the noodle is gonna be sitting in this broth for a long, long time. And you can drink it. And you can drink it, right? But Skaman broths, they have to make it thick
Starting point is 00:46:57 because when you put the noodles in and then you take it out again, as you said, the broth has to see stick to the noodle. Yeah. And that shit is, the flavor of that is so fucking powerful. And then yeah, and then when you're done eating the noodles, you can pull like a soup into the broth
Starting point is 00:47:12 to like dilute it to make it drinkable. It's basically like concentrated ramen. Yeah. That's basically the first time, but like, I don't know, because I feel like no matter what we say or how much we try to sell it, you can't sell it in words, right? No. Because it doesn't look as pretty as ramen. Raman is so pretty.
Starting point is 00:47:29 And like you explain it logically and you're just like, That just sounds like Robin with extra steps. Yeah, what makes it so amazing. That's exactly what you guys said when I try to sell it to you guys and I was like, trust me, let's go to my favorite, one of my favorite skimming places in Yibu grow, and you can just eat it and tell me.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Yeah, and I took them to this place. And I remember we were like chatting the biggest, the maddest shit, be like, yeah, sure, Joey, sure, whatever. And then we got the dish and we just sat there in like silence for a good like 10 minutes. I was, as we were just eating this. And I remember like, I remember the second place you took me to, I swear, took me,
Starting point is 00:48:02 I had like an existential crisis eating this superman man. I remember you went for eating and you were just staring at me and I was just like looking at this bowl of, I was just eating this ball of sick men being just like, it's perfect. It's perfect. I'll tell you what it felt like, it felt like that meme in like Ratatouille where you know, you had like one bite
Starting point is 00:48:21 and he just like took me back to my childhood or something like that. Like I was having like a flashback to like this dish like grandma made me like my grandma's never made me Suket men but it like gave me that same homely feeling that I had when like eating like a home cooked meal like back as a kid. And I was like, what is happening right now?
Starting point is 00:48:40 I've never seen anyone have a food wars moment in real life, but that was legitimately the closest I've ever seen. I was this close like fucking crying. I remember I stopped to like, because you were sitting opposite me and I was eating and I looked over and you were kind of just just like silently staring at it.
Starting point is 00:48:56 And I remember I said to you, I'm like, are your eyes watering? Are you like really about to cry over this bowl Hit different gun. No, that is, that definitely did. Meanwhile, I was just there in my mind, like fucking Tyler one, like, yeah! Just fucking eating it, like.
Starting point is 00:49:11 And then I remember the next day, we were talking about, you know, whatever the fuck we were talking about, and Gar just texted like, fully serious being like, I had a dream about that skin, last night. I actually had a dream about that skim and because it's that fucking good. Is well, because they like have the meat
Starting point is 00:49:27 and all the veg in the broth, when you bite into like the veg or the meat, they've absorbed this intense broth and it just bursts and it's so fucking good. And the meat is so soft and just like, so tender, so tender. Like honestly, like, I'm not gonna say that the ramen in Japan is battering thing.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Like, there's some fucking fantastic ramen out there. But I just feel that Skimmin is such an underdog because people just, as you say, people just think that it's just an inferior ramen. Yeah, I mean, that's what I thought. And I didn't even know about Sukhemen until I moved here and you told me about it. And I feel like people only come here
Starting point is 00:49:59 and they only know ramen. Because when I came here, I only knew ramen as well. I totally don't plan people who are like, oh yeah, I just wanna eat sushi and I just wanna eat ramen. But it just frustrates me when there's, literally, you go to a ramen shop and they usually have skimming on the menu as well.
Starting point is 00:50:13 And yet they just completely ignore that and just go for like the basic bitch ramen. Yeah, and I feel like, you know, you do get a better ramen experience here than you do like anywhere else in the world. Yeah, it just frustrates me when people are like, I'm gonna go to Ichiran ramen. And it's like, you can have an Icherun in America.
Starting point is 00:50:29 Why would you fly all the way to Japan, Have something you can have in America. Like I do not understand why, you know, people come to Japan and they try like, what's the cocoa, what's the curry place? Is it Coca-Cola curry? That's like like international one. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:42 Yeah, yeah. I don't know why they come in and just try the Cocoa curry here. Right, right. In defense of both those chains, I'll be devil's advocate. I went to Ichuran ramen like maybe a month ago. I thought it was pretty fucking good. I thought it was like.
Starting point is 00:50:54 It's not bad. Yep, okay. It's just mid. Okay. It is. If you don't live, here, right? And you don't wanna fuck around with going down these alleyways,
Starting point is 00:51:04 looking on Google Maps, right, trying to find shit. I can understand where you're like, I want a good ramen that delivers, and I don't have to talk to anyone, they have an English menu, I get that, because sometimes these ramen places, bro, no pictures, only Kanji, you gotta give your ticket to the guy,
Starting point is 00:51:18 you gotta hope that he calls you out and you know that it's you, right? Like, that's a little, you know, you gotta figure out if he's asking you, if you want extra badge or whatever. Because you hand it to him and he'll be like, you know, he'll ask what size, and you'll be like, what? Or like, do you want rice?
Starting point is 00:51:32 Rice, they asked them. And like, sometimes, and because the word for rice and meal is the same, Gohan. And so, and one time they asked me, Gohan, I just completely forgot that it was rice. And I'm like, yeah, I want a meal. I just gave you my ticket.
Starting point is 00:51:43 You dumb fuck, take my ticket. Yeah, I know that's Goku's son. What are you? Yeah, so I mean, I get it. It's you on ramen. Okay, it was a little expensive there. I'll give you that. It is.
Starting point is 00:51:54 The noodles were thin, it was good. I, you know, I want to start a series where I go around reviewing ramen chains. Yeah, but that's the problem I have with Ichiran, right, is that it is the thin noodles. And like, I don't have a problem with the thin noodles, but I like my noodles like I like my women, right? Like, I like them thick.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Okay. I was, I was like wondering what you were going with that. Jerry's like the inappropriate uncle that has to mention like something sexual every 10 sex. The only way people relate to me. But yeah, like, that's what I love about skimming though is that like those noodles are so fucking thick. So there's, so there's like, okay.
Starting point is 00:52:26 But it's, I remember the first place you took me to. It was like trying to go to or you can eat buffet with like this one little noodle dish because it was so thick. Yeah, yeah. I remember I saw you guys finishing it and I wasn't even like halfway through. I'm like, f f.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Okay, I can do more, I can do this guys. I can't take all the thickness. With Suket man, you cannot pause. You have to keep going. If you stop for a moment, you will think shit, I'm forced. You can't let your brain catch up to your stomach. It was like doing the Big Bang Burger Challenge and like persona fine, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:52:55 That was kind of what I felt like. I got what the main character felt. You didn't have enough determination points. No, I didn't, I didn't. I need to like upgrade more points, man. Wee. Okay, in Japan there's like, what, three main types of noodles, right? There's the soba noodles, the udon, and the ramen, right?
Starting point is 00:53:10 Yes. Okay, and the difference between these are the sober ones are typically like healthy, quite thin, right? Soba is buckwheat. Buckwheat, it's quite healthy for you. Yeah, and definitely the healthiest, yes. Is ramen the least healthy for you? Raman, I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:53:24 There's a lot of calories in ramen. Yeah, ramen I'd say it's probably the most unhealthy. And there's udon. So, ramen's kind of like in the meat Soba's really thin. It tastes healthy, so make of that what you will. And then Udon is the real fucking thick boy. And like, why does sober taste healthy?
Starting point is 00:53:39 I don't understand. Because it is healthy. I know it is, but I'm just like, what is the big difference being sober and ramen? I'm trying to like put it into worse now. I'm just like, I don't really know because a lot of sober dishes aren't sitting in this very like Sober doesn't hit back, bro.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Yeah. Sober just goes down. Roman fights you as it's going this time, bro. It's like, it's like, it's, It's a challenge. You gotta beat that shit in your stomach. Also, I've noticed- Raman is sober with attitude.
Starting point is 00:54:06 Yeah, it's sober with attitude. I think because ramen is so heavy in calories, even the shitty cup romans taste fucking good here, but yeah, if you go and get like the supermarket sober, that shit tastes awful. Yeah, it does. It tastes really bad. You need to go to a good sober place.
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Starting point is 00:55:37 So make sure to check the link in the description below. And thank you to Grand Summoners for sponsoring today's episode. Back to the video. So yeah, in sober restaurants, they give you the choice of cold sober and hot sober. And as someone who's grown up with like noodles my entire life, I've grown up with the idea
Starting point is 00:55:52 that you have to have noodles as like a hot dish. Yeah, yeah. Because I don't know, like is it weird for you guys? Especially you, Connor. Like the idea of eating a, cold main dish. If there's options, I'm always gonna go hot. Like I went out the other day and it was like,
Starting point is 00:56:05 it must have, this was like two weeks ago, I went to her place. Had like the AC wasn't working, it was like 35 degrees, feels like 40, I was like, yeah, the person asked me, do you want hot or cold? I was like, hot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:16 No one else in this restaurant. It's like the absolute mad, lad. No one else in this restaurant had hot. I could easily see that because, you know, it comes in a bowl when it's hot and when you get the cold, it's on like this little like bamboo thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:26 And dude, I was sweating my ass off in this restaurant. but I still, I was like, I'm glad I got. Because I remember when I first moved here, I was like hot sober, hot sober, only hot sober. And then I tried cold once and I'm like, oh, this is really refreshing. This tastes like, it tastes totally different,
Starting point is 00:56:43 but it still gives me like a good feeling. No, I've had it cold. It's not bad. I just, to me, cold things, like cold noodles don't feel like a meal. Feels like a leftover. You know what I mean? Hot noodles feel like a meal. I mean, I kind of get where you're saying,
Starting point is 00:56:58 but it's also very monkey. It feels like you found it in your fridge, right? And you're like, ah, okay. Let's eat it. Right, like, is the logic that you can't be bold to heat it off? To be fair, like, you- With, when you order cold or a hot sober as well, so when you get hot sober, you just get the noodles and the broth that it comes in.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Yeah. But I always feel jealous of the cold people who get the little, the dipping sauce. Yeah. So with the cold sober, you have like, like a tiny little bowl. What is the sauce? It's like a sure you based. I thought so, like a soy. And it's really good.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Yeah. It's not a bowl. broth, it's just like a sauce and then you dip it in. You take out the sober, you just dip it in, like whip some wasabi in it and then you just... Yeah, cold sober is the skimming of hot sober. No, it is just the sycambe, oh my God. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:57:43 And the proofs my point that skimmin is superior. Figured it out. I just wanna, and then there's the final noodle, which is Udon, my least favorite. I do not like Udo. I really like UDUR. Dude, it genuinely feels like you're in a tentacle hentai every time you're doing that shit.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Because you gotta, you got a, dude, you can have like two in your and you're like, you're like, I'm trying to force that shit down. Yeah. It's awful. You can't, it's so heavy.
Starting point is 00:58:05 It's like swallowing a brick, bro. No, it's not that bad. It is. It feels like the vanilla of like the noodle world where it just, it just, it just, it hit the same every time. What can I say, man? And also, because ramen is somewhat thin, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:20 It can, the source that it takes on to the ratio of noodle that I'm eating is perfect. Udon, it's like this thick in my mind, right? That's how thick it feels, right? Right. It's like a coating of sorts. I can't get into that. But here's the question though, do you guys like mochi?
Starting point is 00:58:35 Yeah, I like mochi. I like mochi, I like mochi ice cream bullshit. Like I'm talking like, no, no, no, like I like much much. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, because it's like, I feel a lot of people who don't like Udon are the same people who don't like mochi for the exact reason, right?
Starting point is 00:58:49 Because when you eat like a block of mochi, that's like eating a brick and it's like get that shit down. It's, it's just like the noodle equivalent. Yeah, but like that, that I like that, I like that because it's kind of like a sweet. You know, a lot of the times, I like mochi sweets, you know, because- Oh, so you've never had savory mochi, though. I've had savory mochi.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Okay, how- How- How- How do you know? I probably wouldn't like it. Yeah, it was very like, like, fucking like a brick. Yeah. I mean, I was prepared for it to be a brick. You know, because it's still dessert, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I mean, I was different, but like when we went to that sober place a while ago, and at an udon place, sorry, it was like, we had this broth,
Starting point is 00:59:23 and the udon just didn't stick any of the broth to it. And I'm like, what's the fucking point? Yeah. Well, because it's supposed to be, a light taste. It's supposed to be like a really thin flavorful like umami taste. Nah, no, it ain't it. It just, I don't wanna say it's an acquired. I didn't think Udon was gonna be an acquired taste. Do you think, do you think Udon is the worst of the three? Uh, I don't know, like I, I, I feel like I like sober and Udon equally, but
Starting point is 00:59:48 ramen is definitely, Raman is definitely above those two, but I like Udon, like, I don't, I'm not gonna like opt for Udon every single time, but if I went to an Udon place, I'm not gonna fucking If I had the choice, I would like never go to the Udon place. I would like, I would always be more in the mood for sober or ramen. Right, right, right, right. There would never be a point where, udon's where I go to where there's like no other places around.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Right. Like, I guess they'll settle for Udon. Yeah. There are just some winter days where I'm like, man, I could really go for like a hot udon. Yeah, I really just want like bricks in my stomach, dude. I just want warm bricks in my stomach with the sauce not sticking to it.
Starting point is 01:00:25 But then you drink the soup afterwards. Yeah, but sometimes it's too rich then. You know what I mean? Like, come on. No, no, no, udon broths are never rich. It's always really watery. They're way too light, which is why I don't like about it. Right.
Starting point is 01:00:35 It's a thick noodle with a light broth. Like I like my ramen and skimming that have like a really thick flavor, right? Yeah, it just completely sticks to you no matter what. But some days I'm just like, I don't wanna feel like I'm getting all this like sticky flavor on me. Like sometimes I just wanna get something down that'll warm me up and it's nice and light
Starting point is 01:00:52 and will fill me up, but won't make me feel like shit. Yeah, yeah. Because sometimes when you have, as much as I, As much as I loved Skim and something, like, it's like five guys, right? It's like, man, this flavor is so powerful. It sticks to me the entire time. But then the moment it starts to settle in your stomach,
Starting point is 01:01:08 you're just like, kill me! Five guys is that thing where you're just like, I'm out for the count for the rest of the other people. Don't talk to me, don't expect me to do anything. I never thought food could knock you out. I thought five guys, right? The opposite of that, I feel is like sushi and the sashimi, right? I also had no fucking clue what sashimi was
Starting point is 01:01:25 until I first came here. A lot of people don't. Seriously? No, seriously. No, okay. A lot of people don't. Cause I didn't know there was a choice where you could just get rid of the rice.
Starting point is 01:01:35 I guess it's like a steak without like the sides, right? Like you could just have a steak. And I thought like, oh, I mean, yeah, I guess. I mean, I will admit, right, I wanted to be that guy who immediately loved sashimi and sushi and was like, dude, I fucking loved this, bro. Yeah, yeah. But it took me a while to get used to it
Starting point is 01:01:52 and really get into it and appreciate like the taste of it. Because when I first had sashimi, I'm like, yeah, it doesn't taste good. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was definitely something that grew on me. Because I remember I went most of my childhood hating sushi and hating sashimi
Starting point is 01:02:07 because I was like, raw fish. Why do I want to eat raw stuff? And in the UK, they do that shit dirty, bro. Yeah. Yo sushi sucks dick. True, true. And then I didn't know, I had like this one day
Starting point is 01:02:17 where I just, for some reason, I was like, man, that kind of looks appetizing. Let me give that a shot. Right, right. And then after the first time when I was an adult, and I tried sushi again, I was like, I fucking love this shit.
Starting point is 01:02:30 I love the taste of raw fish, tastes amazing. And having sushi in Japan is just the quality of the fish is just so damn good that even if you go to like one of those dollar places where you can get like, you can order like a plate, like a small plate of sushi for like a dollar or so yes. That still tastes way better than some of the best restaurants that you can find in the UK or something like that.
Starting point is 01:02:52 Yeah, that's true. I mean the quality of like, because I mean most of the fish that they serve, we obviously don't have in the UK. But like even when you get the salmon, you're like, holy shit. I didn't know if salmon could like just fall apart like this when you bite into it.
Starting point is 01:03:04 Normally in the UK, you know, you get something salmon, you can gotta fucking tug it away. You got a big girl. Yeah, you gotta like, I've had salmon. I'm like literally, fucking, like, fucking trying to stop. But in Japan, right, you eat it and it just like, it just falls apart. Yeah. And it works so good with the rice,
Starting point is 01:03:18 but yeah, man, if I ever have like a workout, sushi is what I'm always craving. It's like the best post workout meal I think. Really? Because it's like, it's just feel like, enough where it's like, I don't want to go too hard, but it's so healthy and so good for you. You're like, man, I really feel healthy doing this.
Starting point is 01:03:32 But I remember you were once saying that you can't have sushi for dinner. Yeah. Which is weird because I'll take any excuse to take sushi for dinner. Yeah, same air, same here. Yeah, whenever these guys were out, they're like, you always, you guys want to get sushi for dinner, I'm like, no, no, it's always, what do you guys want to eat?
Starting point is 01:03:45 And Connor's like, I'm easy, and I go, do you feel like sushi? Not sushi. No. Then you're not easy. You're like, good, not easy. That was a fucking lie. No, it's like, it's like, okay.
Starting point is 01:03:56 I'm easy. If you wanna go to sushi, we'll go sushi. I'm just gonna be like, it's not a chief. Yeah, it's. Well then we don't wanna do that to you, right? For dinner, because for dinner, I feel like, okay, sushi is great, don't get me wrong. Yeah. But for lunch, I don't mind having like one flavor.
Starting point is 01:04:13 But for sushi, I feel like, because it's all like, it all tastes like fish still at the end of the day. Like yes, the fish are different and they taste different, but it still feels like I'm just eating fish and rice, which is fine, but for some reason in sushi to me, it doesn't feel like a full meal.
Starting point is 01:04:26 But you know, you can get other things. Yeah, but like when you order like fried chicken at a sushi place, that shit is so fucking awful. It's like this, it's like the fucking chicken has been abused and like beaten up, it's all muscular and shit. Like it's been in a fucking fight club before it was killed. You maybe get like one ounce of chicken breast
Starting point is 01:04:44 and the rest is like this black bone with like veins. Yeah. Like, holy shit, what do they do to this chicken? And then you're like, what's the point? It's like roided up chicken. Yeah, yeah. And I'm like hitting up the miso soup like no tomorrow. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:56 I'm like stocking up on it, it's normally free. Not that I care, I mean, it just normally tastes amazing. Yeah. Because sometimes they leave like some of the fish in there and they let it cook. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's so fucking good, but I don't know, it doesn't feel like a proper meal, I don't know why.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Because I fill up so fast on sushi and then 30 minutes later when I've left the restaurant, I'm like, shit, I'm hungry again. Yeah, I get that with sushi as well sometimes, where you feel like, you feel like your stomach's about to explode and somehow like an hour or two later, you're like, you don't get hungry, you just like, get, you just like, you get,
Starting point is 01:05:26 You get packish, you know. I can eat a little more, I can eat a little more. I think it's just the rice that expands in your stomach. Probably, probably. And then once it finally settles down, you're just like, oh, all right, time for more food, but yeah, I just, I don't know, I never understood why you can eat sushi for lunch
Starting point is 01:05:42 and yet you can't eat sushi for dinner. Breakfast lunch, I mean, normally. You can eat for breakfast. Yeah, normally my lunch or breakfast is sushi. See, I can't eat sushi for breakfast. Why not? I can't eat fish for breakfast. What, why?
Starting point is 01:05:54 It's just weird. Why is it weird? You're Japanese. I know. I know. Can we talk about the Japanese breakfast? Oh my God, bro. They're like, okay, not just the Japanese breakfast,
Starting point is 01:06:04 very specifically, the, uh, Riyokan breakfast. But that is the traditional Japanese. Yeah, that's traditional Japanese. My first time hearing this was Chris Broad saying, don't ever like ask for the Japanese breakfast, because shit. And I thought, oh, he's just being pessimistic, Chris, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:18 I was a fool. I should have listened to you, Chris. It's fucking garbage. Okay, it's not. Okay, okay, no. The problem is that it's the complete opposite of garbage. It's too much. It's too good. It's, there's like, you get about like 50 different dishes.
Starting point is 01:06:30 I swear to God, and I'm just like, dude, it's breakfast. Just give me like, just give me a ball of cereal. It's like a worthy contender with an American breakfast, right? Where it's just like, that's just too much food. I don't know. It's actually even more than American breakfasts. It's way more than American breakfast. Yeah, because there's, there's like,
Starting point is 01:06:45 with an American breakfast, you can fit everything on one fucking plate at least. Yeah, yeah, yeah. With like Japanese breakfast, you have, you have like, it covers, it covers this entire table, right? And then as you're eating, they bring out like, More dishes, like more small dishes. In between like the fish, the tofu, the soup,
Starting point is 01:07:03 the, I can't even name it all. They'll be like a salad. They'll be like a potato that's been marinated in like a different fucking way, I don't know. There'll be like two different types of salad. Probably a plate of just single tiny things that you've no idea what the fuck they are. They're probably gonna be radish
Starting point is 01:07:18 because everything seems to be radish. Like everything is a fucking radish in these Rio can. Every time I see a Japanese breakfast I'm like, why am I eating an art exhibition? You know, that's just what it feels like. It's just like, this looks really pretty. It looks really pretty, but man, I'm, for one, I've never finished a Japanese breakfast.
Starting point is 01:07:37 And then rice as well, they give you rice. Of course, yeah, they give you rice. I'm like, this is like, this is like a five course meal that I'm having just as I've woken up. And I never ever finish a Japanese breakfast. Yeah, I don't mind the fish, that the cooked mackerel, they normally bring you,
Starting point is 01:07:51 I don't mind that. Cook mackerel doesn't really taste like anything. It's like, it's a mackerel. I don't know about that. I disagree about it. Macle is my favorite. Macro has probably like the most taste. It's my favorite fish, mackerel.
Starting point is 01:08:01 But like it's just so clean, like you never get any like, there's no aftertaste to mackerel. It's just a pure, it's like the chicken. No, I get an aftertaste of that. No, I know. Macrole is the chicken of fish. No, that's salmon.
Starting point is 01:08:12 No. Salmon is the chicken of fish. Salmon's the pork though. Salons, you can do so much with salmon. Yeah, that's the pork. No, no, no, no. That's the chicken. No.
Starting point is 01:08:24 Macro is just salmon with attitude. Oh, I'm just recalling all the food items they might make you. They probably give you eggs, but then you know, you probably want like fried egg, scrambled eggs. Right, maybe a poached egg. Yeah, they give you like some fucking egg roll that's been rolled up and steamed,
Starting point is 01:08:41 and I'm like, it's pathetic. Yeah, and it's fucking cold. And I'm like, why is it cold? Give me a hot egg, please. Most of the dishes are actually cold. They're all cold, and I don't know if this is like a Western thing, but like I want certain hot to wake me up. And the worst part is, right, is that,
Starting point is 01:08:56 You're eating this and you're like, yeah, it's filling and something's missing. Can I have coffee perhaps? Do they have a coffee, an espresso machine back there? Please, just I bring my own pods, I don't care. Just give me a fucking coffee, please. Well, that's what the green tea is for, right? It's the hot green tea.
Starting point is 01:09:12 That's the hot, that's the only heat you're gonna get out of a Japanese breakfast. Or the miso soup. I would kill for a coffee, man. And even when you go, like, when you go a Japanese friends, sometimes I like, man, I just want a coffee. Japanese breakfast are like way too extra for my own liking.
Starting point is 01:09:27 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's. But I mean, I guess that's why, you know, it's a very infrequent occurrence, right? Yeah, it's that special thing that you get at a Yolkan. If you go to a hotel, it's gonna be the shitty continental breakfast that you reluctantly eat because you, you know, you had already have much choice. Oh my God, there's a depressing.
Starting point is 01:09:43 I don't know, I like that for like the first two days. No. Because I don't know, like, it's just, it's just a recognizable meal and you have it for two days and afterwards you're just like, okay, this is getting really boring now, and I want something different. Yeah. But it's like one Japanese dish that, like,
Starting point is 01:09:59 I don't really, I don't really not recommend it, but I don't really recommend it either, is when people come here and they try the curry. Because I don't know about you, but no matter where I've had curry, whether it's home cooked, abroad, whatever chain, it all tastes as good as each other. Like, I've never had a bad curry,
Starting point is 01:10:17 but I've never had a curry that just blows me away. Yeah, I can agree with that. Every single time I have a curry, I'm like, this would be great if it was an Indian curry. Just give me it, just give me a, just give me a good. And like an Indian curry could do this better and would taste better, right? I mean, it's just, it's two one noted, right?
Starting point is 01:10:32 And they put curry in so much fucking things here. Like there's so many like side dishes, like the one place we had ramen and the side dish was just curry with rice. Oh yeah, yeah. Why is this a side? Because curry goes with everything. I guess that's their logic, that's their logic.
Starting point is 01:10:47 It's like, curry goes with everything. Everyone likes curry. You'll be happy to eat it, right? I just, okay, are you talking shit about Coco Ichabat? I do like Coco Ichiband. Like, because I know what I'm gonna get. It's like such a sterilized process. It is like I'm gonna.
Starting point is 01:11:01 You get the same thing every time, but it's really, it really is no different whether you have Coco Ichban abroad or here or any, any other. I've never had it abroad so I can't comment. I had it in America, I've had it in. Exactly same. It's the exact same. It's one of the only places where I can get spice
Starting point is 01:11:18 that actually makes me feel alive, bro. Yeah, except you choose the level of spice that is like YouTube of material. So I don't know, I don't know if this is the same abroad. but in Coco Ichibon here, you can choose the spice level of the curry. And 10, as a certified Thai man who loves Thai food and spicy food, it is fucking insanely spicy.
Starting point is 01:11:38 Yeah. Oh yeah, it's a lot. Except you willingly are like, yes, I will have the 10 and every time we've gone to Coco Ichban together and you say, yes, I'll have a level 10, like, yeah, they're like, blinking meme, are you sure? 10, it's, that's the spiciest and you're like, yeah. But one thing I don't like,
Starting point is 01:11:55 like about the spice level in like Koko Ichiman is, is it feels like fake spice. I don't know, like they're, that's real. I don't know, it's like when I was having it. I don't know, I'm crying there, so I mean like, are those fake tears gone? What I mean by fake spice is that it just feels like that. It's added, it's like artificial spice.
Starting point is 01:12:12 It's not like true, it's not true to your dish that was meant to be spicy. Like you have, you have like an Indian curry or you have like a Thai dish and you remove the spice, you feel like it's missing something. I think that in, uh, a normal, a cocoa Ichban spice, it's like a mainly a throat thing,
Starting point is 01:12:29 but in a normal curry, it's like a whole mouth meltdown. Yeah, right, right, right, right. Like, yeah, Kikaban, it's just like my throat is on fire, but I love pain when I'm eating the fruit. I love pain when I'm eating things as well. Like, oh, it ruins the flavor. No, you don't understand. When you were like in severe pain,
Starting point is 01:12:46 it like enhances. It's euphoric, it is. It makes you, like, the pain makes the flavor so much more prominent. It's like a different kind of pose. It's not it, isn't it? Yeah, it's love the pain, so I don't understand it. And I know it's not like, it's not an attractive thing
Starting point is 01:13:02 to be around, it's not something you do on a date or something, right? Cause like, I'm there and I'm like fucking, yeah. Cause like, okay, like, I remember the very first time I felt like euphoric from from Spice. And it's on camera. If you watch my domestic girlfriend video where I eat a ghost pepper,
Starting point is 01:13:20 there's a point, there's a point in there. Well, I'm just, like, explaining it. I'm trying to be a usual. but you know, explaining it in a funny way. And then there's a point where I'm just like lying there for a good few seconds, and I'm just like, ah! And like at that point, like my brain
Starting point is 01:13:35 was just rushed with endorphines. And I was literally high at that point that I could literally, I couldn't think, right? Because I was just, it was painful, but it was a good kind of painful. It's so difficult to explain where... It was like downing a pint of cocaine, right? That's exactly what it was like.
Starting point is 01:13:53 I don't know. I mean, it's, it's, it's a point of cocaine. I don't know. I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's a point of cocaine. It's so, I don't know, it is like, euphoric. I don't understand it at all. I mean like, because people, I think you like freak out when you, when you, because Jerry will try, he'll be like, go on, I'll try it, I'll try it. He'll put it like inch on his spoon.
Starting point is 01:14:06 He'll try it. I just don't like, I just don't like, when you stop freaking out and just accept it, it's so nice. Okay, but to be fair, I used to not be able to handle spice at all. So if we're talking cocoa Ichibon levels of curry because I feel that's the easiest way
Starting point is 01:14:19 to quantify it, like I would always use to just pick zero. Like no spice up. Leman and Herb Nando sauce. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What dressing would you like? Water. Yeah, water. But yeah, so I used to be just zero spice at all.
Starting point is 01:14:32 But then the more I would try, you know, because I will always be that one guy who'd be like, oh yeah, I'll try this thing that I'm probably gonna hate. And spicy stuff was always one of them. I'm like, yeah, I know I'm probably gonna die from this, but I'll just eat it because why not. And spicy stuff, I think that's how I built my spice tolerance now. So now I can do like a level two, Kokoichi.
Starting point is 01:14:52 And be like, real man shit now. and be like, all right, I can still eat this and enjoy it. But I've once tried a level three, I was like, no, this is to the point where the spiciness and the pain just completely negates all flavors for me. Because for me, like moving to Japan, the one thing I miss the most is spicy food.
Starting point is 01:15:09 Spice man. Because yeah, you get a cocoa Ichabardin 10 because you can't get any other spicy food anywhere. Because like wasabi? They have like hot on the menu and it's never hot. It's never hot for me. Okay, go on wasabi.
Starting point is 01:15:22 I have a whole rant about wasabi. Yeah, wasabi is like the closest thing you get to spice, but it's a totally different feeling, right? It's in the nose, spice. It's the spice in the nose. I really like that feeling. I do, but it's just not the same as the burning sensation, the burning tingling sensation.
Starting point is 01:15:38 I mean, yeah, whereas, you know, normal spice is pleasant. I feel like eating too much wasabi is like, you know, you're in a fucking trench in World War II and the chlorine gas is just landed. You know what I mean? It's like, it's like, you do feel like you're being gassed. It's not like spicy or like, ooh, ooh, it tingles. It's like, oh, it's like, oh,
Starting point is 01:15:54 See, it's so weird because I can't do a level three, Kokoichi, but I love wasabi. I love wasabi. I think people saying wasabi is spicy is wrong. I feel like it is like suffocate. It's not spicy, it's just painful. It's disgusting, yeah. It's, it's a tiny bit, a tiny bit mixed in
Starting point is 01:16:11 with the soy sauce, okay, we good. Yeah. But the moment you put like a little bit too much on your sushi. Oh no, I love just dumping a whole one of wasabi into my soy sauce. I've stopped putting wasabi in the soy sauce and now sometimes like if I'm having like a mid sushi, right up the nose.
Starting point is 01:16:26 I'm just like ball of wasabi on the sushi. Let's fucking go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like I take that shit directly now. I don't need it, I don't need it diluted by by soy sauce sauce. Next trash taste in the veins, directly in the veins. Brits his needle to the restaurant, heats up the spoon. It's like downing a pint of cocaine.
Starting point is 01:16:46 Oh my God, God. You know how I became to like spice? because obviously if you haven't noticed guys, I'm white. Yeah, I can see that. It might not be a surprise to some of you. I'm very white. And my mom cannot handle any spice at all.
Starting point is 01:17:01 My mom will have like something that has actually zero spice in it and she'll be at the dinner table, oh, it's kind of spicy, isn't it? Mom, it's paprika. It's paprika, mom. It's not spicy, it's paprika for fuck sake, it's a spice.
Starting point is 01:17:13 Well, this water's a little spicy. So naturally, I was never raised with spicy food, ever. And what ended up happening was is that I started doing those fucking YouTuber challenges. Oh, right. I would start with a ghost pepper because I saw like Rat and Link to it when I was like 15, I want a ghost pap,
Starting point is 01:17:31 but that sounds fun. So we started doing it in school, we'd all do it. You got a ghost paper at school? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, wow. But you could buy it at the Tesco's and bring it in. Oh, I go. We used to buy them and just do,
Starting point is 01:17:42 I guess torture each other. And so I got into it and then when I started doing live streams, I kept making donation goals, I'll lead to Carolina Reaper, which is like, yeah, yeah. The World's hottest one? I mean, probably isn't. Probably is someone who made some giga, Chad, pepper.
Starting point is 01:17:56 Yeah, this is the spices one now. Yeah, well, fuck it. Some abomination that's just pure gas. Yeah, yeah. But I must have done it like seven or eight times and by the end of doing it, because every single 24 hour stream, I would at least do it twice.
Starting point is 01:18:08 Yeah. And so I started like just being like, okay, it's actually kind of fun now. Like I would actually like look forward to doing it. Yeah. And so then I noticed after doing that where it was just pure pain, when I went back to eat normal curry, I was like, there's no spice. There's no spice.
Starting point is 01:18:22 Once you get that, once you hit that spice level. Because you're desensitizing yourself to it, yeah. This is how people get into dominatrix. It's exactly. It hurts it first, but it's kind of starting to feel good now. This is literally like drugs is really. It is drugs. It is a drug.
Starting point is 01:18:36 It is a drug. Because I remember when I first started dating Sydney, she could not handle spice at all. And I remember what got her to start liking spice was basically when I introduced her to my parents. And every time we'd have a family meal, mom would be like, oh, I didn't make it's so spicy for you, but in Thai, what making, what, like, less spice means, just they, they take
Starting point is 01:18:56 one chili out of the fucking 50 they put in this, like, curry, right? That's what less spicy means. That's because you've had the exact same experience, right? Because we stayed over a Garth place, because Aki can't take spice at all. Yeah. And she was like, oh, no, I'm going to die with this, like, because your mom was making, like, Thai noodles. Yeah, yeah, yeah, which is usually heller spicy. Yeah. And so I had to make a really weird request to your mom to be like, Can you just take all the spice out? And she, like, the way your mom looked at me was like, I was speaking another language.
Starting point is 01:19:26 She was like, what? No, that doesn't make any sense. Like, can you take all the spice out? Oh, okay. So you want one less chili? No, no. It's like, no, all chili is gone. And she's like, it just does not compute.
Starting point is 01:19:39 And she's like, this is the first time I'm ever doing this for anybody. It's like I felt like I felt like I offended the time by saying that. She was just like confused because she was like, what do you mean no spice? Like that spice? Like more less spice?
Starting point is 01:19:55 Like more like what does no spice mean? That does not make sense to me. And so like because Sydney would always have to like eat this Thai food, she would have to like, at first she was like crying every meal. And then as like the more she ate, the more, the more she got used to it. And then now she like, she like can handle spice
Starting point is 01:20:11 better than a lot of Thai people. Like we have this dish in Thailand called Pat Kimau. which translates to drunken noodle. And the reason it's called drunken noodle is that you have to be truly pissed to be able to handle the spice, how much spice this has. And she eats that on the daily, man.
Starting point is 01:20:29 See, because I'm sure that if I was put in the same position as you or Sydney, I would probably get used to it too. Yeah. But I don't want to. Like I want to enjoy my meals. It's good, man, it's good. Get some spice in your life. It makes the meal, like it gives this extra kick to the meal that you just can't.
Starting point is 01:20:46 But that's the problem right, is that because I grew up eating Japanese food, there isn't any Japanese dishes that have spice like that. Because wasabi is, as we've established, completely different type of spice. And we don't really use chilies in a lot of Japanese food. So there isn't, I guarantee there's probably a lot of Japanese people who can just not handle spice whatsoever. Oh yeah, right? I definitely feel that as well. Should we open the wine?
Starting point is 01:21:09 Before we move on, guys, we've had this bottle of wine just sitting down that we were going to open this podcast. because we've hit a new milestone, of course. We've hit three milestones technically. Yeah, yeah, three milestones are like almost the same time, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we reached 100, what? Wait, what are the three milestones? Well, let me tell you, well, first of all,
Starting point is 01:21:30 we hit half a million subs. At the time of recording. At the time of recording, it's probably more by this time. So that's one of them. We hit 100,000 followers on Twitter. And we hit 50,000 followers on the subreddit. Oh, okay. It's like all on the same day.
Starting point is 01:21:43 Like, all on like the same, within a few days of each other. So, yes, thank you for fucking supporting us and watching what we do. And now we have a drops of God wine. Yes, this is a drops of God wine. I don't know which drops of God wine this is. That's fucking good.
Starting point is 01:21:58 So I'm just gonna pour it. You see that? He's like swooshed around. Yeah, I know. Can you believe that man? The goal of this man. There we go. I would like to talk about Japanese bread
Starting point is 01:22:11 for a moment. Japanese bread. Okay. I think we've already talked to. about it unless you have something. I would like to add something. I would like to add something to my Japanese bread at a previous time.
Starting point is 01:22:21 So Japanese bread doesn't serve the same purpose here as it does in European countries. That's a problem. I'm kidding, no. No, you're not kidding. Bread is a staple in like European countries. Like it's saying I need, I need it, I just need it. I need it.
Starting point is 01:22:38 And in Japan it's like a fucking dessert project. It's like a fourth grade is like, oh, let's spice it up. Let's put custard in the bread. Let's do all this weird shit. Let's put hot dogs in the croissant. And it's like, what? Okay, to be fair though, they're all pretty bomb.
Starting point is 01:22:53 No, I don't cost to do. And then like, I, okay, so I like this bread. Don't get me wrong, I like this bread, but I feel like something's gone wrong. So next to our house, this is bakery. And they sell this really fucking good bread. Yeah. It's amazing.
Starting point is 01:23:06 It's bread that's so good that you can just eat it with nothing on it and I put stuff on it, like I put tuna and toast with it, and it made the bread taste worse. And I was like, you're in the world. You're in the way of the bread. This is the bread's time to shine. And so I ate this whole loaf of bread.
Starting point is 01:23:20 Yeah. Problem was, the loaf costed like a thousand yen, which is like $10. $10 for a loaf of bread? Holy shit, dude, this better be diamond encrusted. Jesus Christ. I mean, if it's the main star of whatever you're easing, I could see why it cost $10.
Starting point is 01:23:37 I don't know, I've never been, personally, you know, I've never been blown away by bread. You've been to Germany, bro? No. Well, there you go. That's right. German people, man, say what you will. They've got bread figured out, man.
Starting point is 01:23:50 All the Germans watching this are like, hell yeah, we do. You go to Germany, you get anything in their bakeries. It's fresh as fuck and it's amazing. It's so good. All then, it just makes me wanna go to Germany. So I'm gonna move to Germany when I'm done with Japan. Hi Germany, please, well, just wanna eat the bread. Oh, dude, pretzels alone?
Starting point is 01:24:05 Holy shit, that pretzels are good. German foods fucking, holy fuck. Yeah, so good. I feel like pretzels and bread for me. I always need to be, they are like, They are like the side dish to whatever the main thing is between them. Oh, he said it. Oh, he said it.
Starting point is 01:24:20 I need to have something with my bread. You haven't had a good pretzel, man. A good pretzel will change your life, man. A good, like, fat, hot German pretzel with mustard. Yeah, mustard's good. Oh yeah, you don't like mustard. You can put cheese on it if you want. I think... Yeah, that's exactly here. I need cheese on it.
Starting point is 01:24:35 No, no, no. I was about to finish my sentence, guy. Let me finish, guys. A pretzel on its own, just salted lightly, man, with the salt, like little salt chunks in. in there, man, you get a nice, you get a nice bite of that salt, good, perfect with your beer, man.
Starting point is 01:24:48 And even in the morning, right, it's great. It's light, you can have half the pretzel, leave it, man, it's gonna be great later. It's pretzels. We're not talking about like the tiny fucking pretzels, by the way, we're talking about the big German pretzels. Tiny pretzels fucking suck. Yeah, they do.
Starting point is 01:25:02 They suck, dude. It's airplane food. Yeah, it's a shitty cookie is what it is. It all hits the same. No, it does. No, it doesn't. And like, I think, I've seen a lot on YouTube at least, like, bread is like a huge,
Starting point is 01:25:14 It's becoming a huge culture here of like experimenting with it and pushing it like dessert like and what you can do with it. And I've noticed there are a ton of bakeries that none of them do normal bread. It's just like what weird fucking thing can we do with bread? No, no, no, I put life on the edge gone. I'm not gonna do it. I think someone said that on one of the.
Starting point is 01:25:32 Yeah, yeah, yeah, every time I say I'm like, now I've noticed it, I can't not notice it. I'm just like, fine, I'll put it down. No, but like, what? I spilled someone. Are you happy, go? I spilled someone I moved it. For fuck sake, don't know.
Starting point is 01:25:44 And near the TV as well, what the fuck? Right in front. That's by your fee. Why would you put it by your fee? Because if I can't, I can't. One thing though that I will say that I think a lot of people are gonna find controversial is that the Asian bakeries in America, like the, usually the ones that are owned by like, you know, Koreans or Japanese. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:04 I feel that the bread there is like way too sweet. Yeah, it's so sweet. It's way too sweet, but they don't really do that here. It's like everything is a brioche. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Every normal bread you get tastes halfway like to a brioch. It shouldn't. It tastes too sweet.
Starting point is 01:26:21 It's way too sugary. Like I don't even taste the bread anymore. Yeah, and I've had a lot of Japanese people say, like, do you think the Japanese food is too sweet? And I'm like, yes, it is too sweet. We have too much sugar in this shit. Yeah. Yeah, I would agree with that.
Starting point is 01:26:31 Because you eat a melon pan, don't get me wrong. Shit's amazing. You look on the back, you have a fucking heart attack when you see the sugar. It's like 80 grams of sugar in the melon pan. And that's like what, like two coaks and a half? Yeah. What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:26:45 But I would rather eat a melon point than to Coke and a half. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's like, they make this bread and don't get wrong, it's as amazing as it looks in the anime. It totally is. And the first week here, I used to eat it nonstop. Because I was like, I'm never gonna get fat.
Starting point is 01:26:58 And I had a scare when I looked at the back and I'm like, oh, I can, that's sugar, isn't it? Don't tell me that sugar. Google translate, oh shit, it's sugar, fuck. And it's like, you were expecting. You knew that a sweet thing would have sugar in it. I didn't think. when it said,
Starting point is 01:27:14 surprise Pikachu face. 80, 82 grams. Maybe it was protein. I don't know, maybe it was protein. Maybe it was protein. Maybe the bread was very heavy in protein. That's how all these Japanese, like, wife, all this wife is getting swaned.
Starting point is 01:27:28 Right, that's like a melon pan. And then I started to think myself, I started, I had this bread and I'm like, the bread tastes awfully sweet and I did think, huh, it's kind of weird that it's, the topping is just sugar. Yeah. Huh. Who would have fucking thought, eh?
Starting point is 01:27:41 That's awfully weird. That's awfully weird. Talking about taking the bread away from things, let's talk about Japanese hamburgers or hamburgues. Yeah, that's right. It's not a hamburger, it's a handbaggoo. They're an abomination to burgers. I fucking love them.
Starting point is 01:27:55 Because, can't fucking stand when you order that shit. So to explain Japanese hamburgues, it's literally just a hamburger or like a burger patty without the bun. And so you, what? Because it's good, I love it. The best part of a hamburger, and I am going to go on one of those rants
Starting point is 01:28:13 It's like the pizza thing, dude. It's the synergy. It's the synergy, bro. There is a way to a burger, man. It's like, what, it's all the accumulation of the tastes that come together and they strike slightly moderately. Because, like for like 90% of burgers,
Starting point is 01:28:31 you don't give a shit about the synergy. You're there for the fucking party. Like you, okay, you have like a brioche bun with some lettuce, tomatoes, like some bacon. It's fucking amazing, but like, get a McDonald's burger, who gives this shit, man? Oh no, I don't- McDonald's burger has been more engineered
Starting point is 01:28:49 than any burger in the world, God. That thing has been scientifically proven to be the perfect- That is why you will never say no to a double cheeseburger at McDonald's, I guarantee it. Oh, I do because it's got ketchup in it. But without-catch-
Starting point is 01:29:03 Regardless of the point, it's a fucking dry ass patty. Like, I don't give a shit about that. It is literal junk. It is literal junk. No, I love my gourmet burgers, dude. I love every kind of burger. The McDonald's burger has it to play.
Starting point is 01:29:17 That's why, no matter what hamburger you get, you get a gourmet patty or like, what would be like a gourmet patty on like a gourmet burger. You always order the shitty patties there in these places. Like you order like the shitty hamburger that was made in the factory like probably like 10 miles away.
Starting point is 01:29:33 Yeah. And it's still 10 times better than anything you order from fucking McDonald's like Burger King or like most burger joints. You know what I mean? I'm gonna have to agree with Garne on this one. Like, don't get me wrong, like, you know, sometimes I'll wake up and just be like,
Starting point is 01:29:49 you know, like I'll never say no to a double cheeseburger or a whopper, right, on some days. A wopper burger here is great, dude. I'll take it over any of those shit. Sometimes you just, you know, sometimes you're just like, I just want to eat some shit today. But then other times you're like, I really just want meat.
Starting point is 01:30:04 I just want a humbug, I just want the patty. It's just the patty. It's just the patty. It's just the patty of a burger. In my eyes, if you're going to just order a hamburger, a hamburger just like with veg and maybe fries, just get a fucking steak. Just like, no, no, no, no, you're eating red meat.
Starting point is 01:30:19 No, it's totally fucking different. No, it's not, are you kidding me? I will never eat a fucking steak over a hamburger. Yeah. What? Yeah, I just don't like steak. I will take the inferior worst tasting piece of the cat. I don't like steak. Oh my God. I think steak is fucking mid.
Starting point is 01:30:33 No, man, okay. Okay, okay. I think steak is, it's like eating cardboard. It's just a fucking piece of meat. To me, eating a hamburger, right? What is going on? What are these takes right now? I'll let him freak out.
Starting point is 01:30:50 Eating a hamburger, right? It's just like, it's like a kid's meal. It doesn't look right. It looks like- What are you a little god can't handle the tomatoes in the bread? Oh, we'll just take the burger out for you. It's just a different way to enjoy a part of the meal. It's like saying, it's like saying.
Starting point is 01:31:09 When you get like the veg in a bag, with your little milk and your juice, right? Like it's a little different way to have it. It's like, oh, you talked about pizza. It's like, oh yeah, I can only eat cheese when it's on pizza. Like, I- Who said that?
Starting point is 01:31:22 No, that's the, by this- By the same logic, you're like, I can't have mozzarella by itself. Why would you have mozzarella by itself? Cause it's fucking great. Yeah, it tastes good. Like it's great with a salad. Yeah, capriza salad.
Starting point is 01:31:38 That's just- That's not by itself gone, by itself, A hamburger is not a patty by itself means. A hamburger is not a patty by itself. You got like potatoes, you got vegetables, you got eggs, you can put some cheese on the sauce, you got cheese, you put it on a fucking curry,
Starting point is 01:31:53 you can put it on so many things that just is not bread and lettuce and tomatoes. When you have a steak and it comes with fries, is the steak by itself? What, say that again? If you order a steak and it comes with fries, this is by itself. No, it's with the fries,
Starting point is 01:32:08 but I don't give a shit about the steak. Yeah, but what you're, saying is that because it's like taken out, it's not by itself or something. The patty's not by itself. What I'm trying to say is you don't have to have steak with fries, you can have steak with a lot of other things. If the patty is just, it's a singular thing
Starting point is 01:32:27 and there's veg next to it, the patty is by itself. That's just a fact, bro. What? What are you talking about? Because, right, that is not part of a burger. It's a meal or put him on one. The patty is a, is a, fucking ingredient to a bigger hole,
Starting point is 01:32:43 but you can take the ingredients and you can do other things with the ingredients. If you have all the ingredients of a soup next to each other, it's not a fuck, it's not, it's not, you can't just be like, oh, it's not, it's not by itself at all, it's a soup, what do you mean? Like, what are you, so you're chatting out of your ass, bro? It's a burger on its own, just left there,
Starting point is 01:33:01 it's depressing, put some fucking lettuce and tomatoes and bread on that shit, man. But it's on the side. It's on the side, you can have other stuff. You can eat a burger in more than one way. You can eat the hamburger, you take a bite of that shit. You uncultured, fuck. You can eat the home burger on the side.
Starting point is 01:33:20 You know, why don't you just go to fucking McDonald's, right? Order a burger and just pry it apart, take the hamburger out and eat it, gone, you fucking animal. Because the patty is shit. That is why. The paddy is garbage. The fatty is garbage. Yeah, but so is this burger that you get.
Starting point is 01:33:32 No, not. The beef they give you, the beef that they give you that isn't A5 beef here, It's pathetic. No, it's not good. It's great. It's like, it's a fucking gray burger. As I was informed by a friend of mine,
Starting point is 01:33:47 whose whole job is to manage exports of meat into Japan, he informed me that all the beef that isn't the top grade stuff is just imported from other countries. Fuck him. And it tastes like shit. Fuck him. In the UK. You're acting like that Reddit comment now.
Starting point is 01:34:00 I am. It's like, excuse me, I am a beef expert. My dad works on Nintendo. I've heard from a friend who works in the industry. Listen. Listen, when you grow up basically, right, next to farms, right? And you get that beef, you get it fresh, man. You can't give me this shit of like this, like, air-sealed bag of a beef
Starting point is 01:34:21 carcass flown across a country. It tastes like shit. Well, what if I didn't grow up next to a fucking farm? Well, that sucks to be you. Yeah. Go and eat your hamburger. But like, by that same logic, why can you still enjoy fucking McDonald's patties or like burgers then?
Starting point is 01:34:36 Because that as a burger is a great burger. It's a fucking great. It's not. It's a great burger. No, no, no, no, no. It's not even the best burger in like the fast food joint. If you take a fucking Burger King over a McDonald's burger any day of the week.
Starting point is 01:34:48 It depends on the mood. What fucking mood? You're such a liar. What fucking mood, okay. Explain to me the mood that you need to be in. Who would actually take a McDonald's burger over a burger king? When I'm absolutely plastered, there's nothing more I want than double cheeseburgers from McDonald's.
Starting point is 01:35:02 They have, they have this. That just sounds like your fucking prerogative. Like, I just say. No, no, no, no. But also, I just think that McDonald's in the, UK at least was like the best fast food chain. Yeah, probably, but there weren't many to pick from, I would say. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:15 Yeah. I mean, I mean, like, okay. At the end of the day, I just think a hamburger is pathetic. If you could take a Burger King burger with McDonald's fries, that would be like the perfect fast food restaurant for me. Like as it stands, I either have to pick between a shitty burger and good fries or like a less shitty burger.
Starting point is 01:35:34 I'm convinced, and worse fries. Yeah, I'm convinced all the fast food places have an agreement of who's gonna have the best want. Because why do not, why does not one of them have just figured out, hey, those are the good fries? Why don't we get those fries? You know what I mean? Yeah, true.
Starting point is 01:35:50 But I guarantee if I blindfolded you and I made you eat both of them. The fries? I could tell 100%. No. We're doing it. This is good, I reckon you could do that with a burger as well and you wouldn't be able to tell. Oh, dude, I could, with fast food chains?
Starting point is 01:36:03 Yeah. 100% I can tell. I'll bet my life on it. We gotta do it now. We gotta do it now. We gotta fucking do that. Right now. We gotta do it now.
Starting point is 01:36:11 Talking about beef though, let's talk about actual Japanese beef and Japanese steaks because like. A5 or nothing. A5, yeah, A5 is like, I thought. It's not that much more expensive. It's so weird living in a country where you can go to your local supermarket
Starting point is 01:36:29 and get A5 beef. Yeah, you know, and then this is the type of beef that gets like shipped over and you pay like 50 bucks for like a fucking 100 grams or something abroad. And then you can just get it here at your supermarket. As much as I don't rate steaks, like 8-5 steaks, they do be striking.
Starting point is 01:36:49 Comparative of it. I had a Wagyu burger yesterday and it was fucking amazing. And I'm so glad that it was bread, lettuce, and tomatoes and cheese gone. Don't stop this again. We just steaks away from this. I'm just saying, it felt good, you know?
Starting point is 01:37:02 I mean, a burger and a steak of two different things in my mind. But, okay, wagyu steak is like amazing, especially when they like fry that shit and butter like so much, it like absorbs it. You bite it into it, it's like, oh. Yeah, I don't know though. Like, for me steak is just like,
Starting point is 01:37:18 how often do you have a steak? Not often, that's why like- You can't have steak often. I, like, I would understand, coming from your perspective, why you hate steak, but to me, steak is like the best meal or the best meat you can get if it's like, if it's like prepared well.
Starting point is 01:37:35 Right. What's better than a good steak? I think pork is the best meat. Fuck, get the fuck out of you. Like a pork steak? No, no, not a pork steak. I just think, well, pork steaks are good. Like, gammon chops are fucking amazing.
Starting point is 01:37:48 Right. No, no, no. It goes, okay. Here's how the tier list goes, okay? Here's how the fucking tier list goes. Okay, it goes like an amazing steak at top. I couldn't eat a steak every day, but like, as a one-off meal, like steak is like,
Starting point is 01:38:01 S-S-S-Dusty. And then after that comes chicken. Because chicken, you can do so much with, and you can never get bored of chicken. I've never gotten sick of chicken. I could eat fried chicken every day at the work. I'll be really. And then below that is pork.
Starting point is 01:38:14 No, no, no. Below that is pork. Because I would never, like, anything you cook with pork, I feel like you can do something similar with chicken. No, I feel like pork has a like, it's the in between, like, whereas beef is really heavy, pork is the in between.
Starting point is 01:38:28 And I feel like you can do so much with pork. Like I love sausages, man. Sausages are amazing. Yeah, but you can also have beef sausages as well. Yeah. Like, like, I've never had a beef sauce in my life. Like, like, there's nothing you can do with pork that you can't do with either
Starting point is 01:38:40 chicken or beef and have it taste better. Yeah. Wait, do you like hot dogs? No. Oh yeah, he acts like a guy who doesn't like hot dogs. How do you not like hot dogs? It's, I don't know. The dude who's talking about,
Starting point is 01:38:51 it's because you don't like fucking condiments. That's why I have. And also, the people who talk so highly about steak are like, no, no, no, no, no, no, I couldn't possibly. I love a good hot dog. Hot dog, I'll be honest man. Dude, I love hot dogs, man. I know that absolute garbage and like probably cancerous,
Starting point is 01:39:09 but I fucking love that. You have to have like a beef sausage hot dog though because you've never had a beef sausage, right? Wait, wait, wait, tell me the difference between like a hot dog and a sausage. Like a sausage. A sausage is, okay, if you're ever gonna take a hot dog
Starting point is 01:39:23 over a sausage, I don't think we're gonna be friends. No, exactly, exactly. But you know, you're at a barbecue and like, you know, people are being kind of cheap, you know, they wanna bring the big sausages. You're like, fine, I'll need four hot dogs, fine, you know. Yeah, like that's the thing. I would never pick a hot dog over a sausage.
Starting point is 01:39:38 No, no, no. It's like a double cheeseburger, right? Yeah. If it's there, I'll eat it. And you can, okay, with a sausage hot dog, right? Like a thick boy, you can only put one of those away. With a hot dog, I feel like you can put like three or four away. Oh yeah, because they're so fucking thin, right?
Starting point is 01:39:52 And they just taste like, they don't really, like a sausage, a good sausage is heavy. The reason I don't like hot dogs is that, or the reason I would never take it over a sausage, is that it just tastes so processed. Yeah, but that's because it's like, no, that's like highly processed food that my brain is like, hmm.
Starting point is 01:40:08 Wait, wait, okay. Wait, wait, okay, then question, do you like spam? It's, okay, you're gonna, like, laugh now. My mom's gonna feel so bad. My mom used to make this meal, and I fucking loved it, dude. I would always ask my mom to make it. It was literally mashed potatoes and spam.
Starting point is 01:40:23 Just mashed. And I fucking loved this shit. Wait, well, like, no, like, flavoring on top of it? No, no, no, just mashed potato and spam. Like, imagine, like, a giant fucking pan of mashed potato, right? And I would just take, like, a giant plate full of this shit, and I would gobble that shit up, man. I would eat that for days.
Starting point is 01:40:41 Like cancer in a plate. No, yeah, because spam is, spam is one of those things where it's like, if I'm offered spam on its own and I can see it, I'm like, get that away from it. Yeah, yeah. Get that shit away from it. But when it's like in something disguise,
Starting point is 01:40:51 I'm like, yo, this shit claps, what is there? Yeah. Spam fried rice is like, I used to fucking hate spam. Like I was like, ew, get that shit away from it. Give me real meat. Isn't it like a spam Hawaii, they meant like a spam sushi or something? No, that's, yeah, that's,
Starting point is 01:41:06 it's either Hawaii or Okinawa. I think it's an Okinawa dish with spam I don't fuck with that. Like spam when you eat is fucking dog. I don't fuck with spam. I don't know. I used to not fuck with it, but spam is such a huge thing in the Philippines.
Starting point is 01:41:17 So going to Arkie's parents' place, like every second meal had spam in it. So I couldn't avoid this. Spam is what I eat to remind me what good meat tastes like. Okay. What are the peasants eat nowadays? I must know, oh, oh, spam is it now? Hot dog and spam.
Starting point is 01:41:33 I suppose I could give a hot dog and a spammer trial to, you know? Oh, rather, rather distasteful. I wanna know, when you go to the conbeni, right? What's the top three food items that you get? It depends on the conbeni. Yeah, I always get, yeah, it depends on the conbeni, but say if it's family mom.
Starting point is 01:41:54 I always get the fucking tuna bread. Do you know the bread? Oh, the long boy. Yeah, that shit's good. The long boy, tuna bread, that shit always clasped. Because, okay, anything with mayo in here, and in Japan is so much better. Yeah, so like the tuna bread.
Starting point is 01:42:07 That's god tier here. As someone who hates mayo, I gotta admit, like, Japan, Japan is the only place where I can kind of be okay with it. That's saying a lot. I will never eat mayo by itself, but when it's in like a nice potato salad or something, I fuck with that.
Starting point is 01:42:26 I thought that egg sandwiches were the most depressing fucking thing in the world. I agree, yeah. In the UK, they're like this white mush that looks disgusting, it smells vile, it's just gross, and then you have it in Japan. It's like this yellow bright color. It's inviting.
Starting point is 01:42:41 It's like, oh, eat me. And I was like, you know what? Eat me. I just might. And I had it, I had it. I had it and my mind was blown. And I cannot stop eating the egg sandwiches here, man. The egg sandwich is fucking godly.
Starting point is 01:42:54 I can never eat an egg sandwich anywhere else now because I'm gonna be thinking, Japan, Japan has ruined eggs for me. Eggs and mayo are just god tier here. Yeah, because like, I remember the concept of just going to my first, like, Yaki Niku place place and just having the dips, like for some like dipping sauce in like Yaku Niku, which is, how do I explain Yaku Niko? It's just like grilled meat. Yeah, basically.
Starting point is 01:43:16 It's like Korean barbecue. How do I explain it? It's me. It's like Korean, it's just me. It's like Korean barbecue but replace Korean with Japanese. Yeah. And it's on like a skewer, basically. So for some, for some, for some dishes, they give you just like an egg as a dipping sauce, like the egg yolk, a raw egg yolk, which firstly, the concept of eating raw was really, really weird for me until I tried it for the first time. And raw egg here tastes fucking great. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:40 Oh yeah. I would hope so. I'll produce the male and is obsessed with eggs. Yeah, it's completely that you can't get salmonella here from the eggs. Yeah, it's pretty impossible, yeah. When I did one of my videos, I like drank a bunch of egg and all the comments were like, oh my God, Connor,
Starting point is 01:43:54 you're gonna get salmonella, you dumb fuck, I know more. I got told eggs give salmonella and I was like, reverse Uno card in this. Yeah. You can't, you can't, it's like, I don't think it's 100% unlikely. Yeah, I have heard of a couple of my friends. It's worth the risk, it's worth the risk.
Starting point is 01:44:10 I've heard of a couple of my friends get like very mild salmonella from the eggs here, but it's really, really rare. Like it's not as easy to get salmonella like in America. It's because I think in America and the UK and most of Europe, I think we wash the eggs and we get rid of the protective film on the coat. And I think it's also something to do with
Starting point is 01:44:26 how we feed them certain drugs to like make them immune to diseases. Yeah. Yeah, because like, what is it? Shaboo Shabu and Sukkiaki. Skiyaki. That's one of my favorites, actually. Skiyaki is like, yeah, I put you onto that, right?
Starting point is 01:44:40 Yeah, that's shit. Shaky's the best fucking hot pot. Shabu Shabu is like, they boil like this meat and veg in this, in this broth and it's kind of weak. It's like, ah. I don't rate Shabu Shabu. It's like they always advertise themselves as Shabu Shabu places, and then they might have
Starting point is 01:44:56 the sukyaki on the menu. Yeah. But they never advertise. It's always, you know, we got Shabu Shabu. Yeah. And it tastes like shabu. It's like water. It's like bath water.
Starting point is 01:45:04 I don't know. I feel like, I still think like the best hot pot for me is Chinese hot pot. Chinese hot pot, it's like way more flavorful. I don't know, man. It's like, it's a heavy broth. Have you had Skiyaki though? Have you had it?
Starting point is 01:45:15 I have, I have. Yeah, okay, so Sukiyaki, if you don't know at home, it's what's the broth that they cook it in? It's like a rich like, uh. It's soy based with like a little bit of like, uh, fuck, what was it? It's like, uh, Dashi? Yeah, it's Dashi.
Starting point is 01:45:28 I don't know how to explain Dashi. It's just really rich broth and to like mellow it out and give it this, like, enhance the flavors, you dunk it in like egg yolk. Yeah. So you crack a raw egg, you whip it up, and you dip that shit in. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:39 So you cook everything in the broth, and it's all covered in soy, like all the veggies absorbed it, you dunk it in the egg, and then you eat it and it's fucking amazing. It's so good. So good. It's so good.
Starting point is 01:45:48 And Chinese hot pot is good, right? But I think Sukyaki's better. Yeah, Chinese, like, I rate Chinese hot pot. Every time I've had a Chinese hot pot, I'm like, hell yeah. Also, Japanese hot pot's pretty good, too. We've had it at our place. Nabe, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 01:45:58 We had like, I don't know which hopper. We had that on Christmas because Connor didn't want a fucking roast. Not, none of us have an oven. What are we gonna roast, Garn? How are we gonna keep fucking roast a chicken and the tiny little fish grill? You got like a, you get a grill in your like a stove top, right? Oven top, sorry?
Starting point is 01:46:14 A oven top. And you get this grill for fish and it's like this wide. You have to like, pull it out. It can literally fit just one fish. Yeah. You wanna roast a potato? You gotta cut that bitch into the throat. You gotta like pan fry a potato. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:26 It's like I wanna roast. How are we gonna have a roast, Explain the logistics behind this. The logistics gone. I'm bringing it back. Well, now I have an oven and I think you could be I have an oven as well, yeah. So yeah, next time.
Starting point is 01:46:37 Sorry that we can afford an oven. Why would I need an oven when I eat out every fucking day? But that's the thing. Connor, you're so lazy, why do you eat out? Sometimes I meal prep. A meal prep, that sounds so fucking lame. A meal prep, bro. I'll make a curry that, like, for five days,
Starting point is 01:46:52 and I'll eat the curry over five days, like a Thai curry. That's about it. That's as far as cooking goes from. That's the thing, or it's like, I feel Japan, I'm pretty sure we touched upon this on a previous episode, but- People got so pissed and we said that. They were like, it's not cheaper to eat out
Starting point is 01:47:04 if you do X and X and X and X. And it's like, yeah, if I eat pasta and sauce, of course it's gonna be cheaper. Yeah, but if you want to have something that tastes different, yes, it's gonna maybe be like 100-200 if you want a different meal every day. Yeah, exactly. And you can't be fucked to go shopping every day
Starting point is 01:47:18 because they aspire a date on shit is like two days to go. Yeah, and more often not when you buy stuff, like it's too much portions that I can't use. Like veg here is normally portioned for more than one person. It's like family portion. Yeah, so like, I wanted like, what was it like, what's the small onions, like the green onions? What are they called?
Starting point is 01:47:36 Is the green onions? Shillots. I have no fucking. Shillots, I think it's Shillots in America. Yeah. Spring onion? Spring onion for us. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:44 It's, you cannot just get like two spring onions. This place- has to be a whole fucking. Yeah, it's either a whole fucking one or a giant tub of like cut up ones. I'm talking like more than any one person could ever use in a week. It's like a tub, like this thick, just fill with these cut.
Starting point is 01:47:58 And it's like, I'm not gonna use this. I feel bad because I throw all the ingredients away because I can't use them. Well, it's because it like, cut shallots are used in literally every Japanese dish. Yeah, they are, they are. And like if I get tomatoes, they always come in like packs of like six. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:12 Tomorrho's are fucking big. Like I don't need six most of the time. And, you know, because of how we do, like say we record on Tuesdays, we're gonna eat out and then maybe on Monday, I'm going to meet someone for a meeting, or maybe I've got a shoot on Thursday, so I'm gonna eat out. So it's more like one day a week I eat in. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:28 and then I'll just go to the con beaning at the 500 yen ramen. Yeah, which is like, you know, sure, I could make my own- Which is technically the top tier. Which I could make my own ramen, would it be more expensive? So it's like, yeah, of course,
Starting point is 01:48:39 some people, if you wanna be picky about it, yeah, you can save money. The same way if you eat pasture in the UK, you'll save a shit-down-money. But if you wanna live like a human being. But if you actually wanna like, you know, enjoy your food. Yeah, yeah, if you wanna not be depressed 24-7
Starting point is 01:48:50 of what you're eating, like, yeah, okay. Yeah, because going back to the con-bini thing about foods that we buy, like I, I gotta, No less to the conveni now to get meals. I remember when I first moved here. Every day. I would go to get a con beanie meal like every fucking day.
Starting point is 01:49:05 And like the Combeini fried chicken here is fucking great. Okay. With an asterisk. With an asterisk. Family Mart fried chicken fucking sucks. Okay. It's way too greasy. It's like a layer of like fat. I see it as well.
Starting point is 01:49:19 You feel like you're eating death as you're taking a bite. And I see YouTubers, I think like Chris Broad says that his favorite's family marked chicken and you eat into this thing and it's the most depressed thing you can eat. It's just depressed as he is. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:31 You take a bite into this thing. It is pure water and oil. That chicken was probably anemic in its real life, right? And they pump that shit with water and oil and they're like, do it. Lawson's fried chicken on the other hand? Nah, no, no, seven fried chicken at the top. I think seven fried chicken's in the middle, man.
Starting point is 01:49:52 Lawsons do this like sweet and sour, I know, it's salty and sweet, like terriaki fried chicken. It's fucking good, dude. Yeah, it's fucking good. It hits different, it hits back. It hits back. You bite into this thing, it's fighting you, bro,
Starting point is 01:50:08 in the good way. It's like, damn, there's so much flavor in this thing. It's like, oh shit, oh shit. Holy shit, I just wanted the fried chicken, not a fight. Okay, also, when you first come to Japan, right? Yeah. You're like, on aegiri, bro.
Starting point is 01:50:20 Jolly-filled donuts immediately. Yeah. Because it's new, it's exciting, it tastes good. And then when I moved here, I was eating it, and I'm like, this kind of tastes boring. Really boring. And then I thought, who would have a sandwich in Japan? I don't want a sandwich, I can get a better sandwich in the UK.
Starting point is 01:50:37 And then you start experimenting a little bit. And I had the egg and, my go-to sandwich combo. I cry if this isn't available. In Lawson's, they have like a god tier tuna mayo sandwich. Yeah, yeah. And the other one is the egg one. The egg and ham. It's beautiful, man.
Starting point is 01:50:52 I cry every time I get it. Yeah, that is definitely my favorite, like sandwich combination. It's so good because you have the tuna and you're like, ooh, a little salty, little fishy. You have the egg, the mayo one, and you're like, fuck, dude, this is good. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:04 I'm actually the opposite. When I'm first moved here, I'm like, why would I want a fucking onigiri? And now it's just like a very nice casual snack where like you don't want a full meal. Yeah. You're quite filling though, I find. Yeah, that's it.
Starting point is 01:51:17 Like you have that as a snack and it fills you up and you don't need anything else. Yeah, exactly. Like for a while. I guess, yeah. Like I always, when I go to the corn, in the morning, sometimes it can't be bought to like make a breakfast.
Starting point is 01:51:28 So I go to the conventine in the morning and I always get my breakfast and then some kind of oni-gidi because I know the breakfast is gonna fill me up. But then I know a couple of hours later, I'm gonna be feeling a little bit peckish. And the onigiri is just perfect to fill in that little spot that creates.
Starting point is 01:51:44 My problem with onagiri is sometimes, like, it's like a coin toss. Like you might get one where they're generous with the fillings. And sometimes you bite into that shit and there's one shred of chuna in it. And you're like, where is it? the flavor, bro. I just ate into seaweed and rice. Like there was one piece of tuna with a slab of mayo on it.
Starting point is 01:52:00 Yeah, yeah. It sucks, man. If it was consistent, maybe I'd like it. But you only eat the tuna or eat it. No, no, I like the salmon and the Codro one. Oh yeah? Yeah, the Codro one's fine, but Codro is kind of intense, so. Have you tried like some of the other flavors, like the flavored rice flavors? I've had the, oh, you mean like the fried rice ones? Yeah, the fire rice ones are fine, but again, I'm always thinking like... They're situational for me.
Starting point is 01:52:21 To me, I would rather than warm. Like, like... I want it warm. You can warm it up, but just put that bitch in the microwave. It doesn't feel like. I don't want a microwave rice. That sounds just depressing, man. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:52:35 I don't know, would you rather cold rice or a microwave rice? Cold. Well then stop fucking complaining. But, but like I would rather be like freshly, you know, grilled that. Yeah, but that ain't gonna happen at a fucking cold. Like, did for you as like a white person who grew up in Wales, as a really situation, as a white person. As a white person.
Starting point is 01:52:55 No, no, no, the point I was trying to make is, how did it feel going from like eating rice every now and again to eating rice for almost every meal? Because I've had a conversation with people who, you know, grew up in America, grew up in England. They've moved to an Asian country and I'm like, man, I really liked it at first and then I just got bored of eating rice for like every meal.
Starting point is 01:53:15 But I grew up with this shit, so I'm used to it. I mean, it wears you down a little bit, but I feel like you really do get used to it. I don't know, maybe some people, it's like it at first, like you said, they start to hate it, but for me, it was like, I don't know, rice has just always been there. It's like bread, but in a different format for me.
Starting point is 01:53:32 It's like, if bread is the hard drive, then rice is the SD card. It's like, they all do the same thing. They just fill you up in their carbs, right? Yeah. I think most of the time here, it's not just plain rice. Sometimes it is, like when you go to Rio can,
Starting point is 01:53:50 and it's just like plain fucking rice in it. And it's so, starchy and sticky, like fuck, dude. I'm eating fucking Play-Doh here, man. But you know, when you go like my favorite place in the world, Matzia, you know? Here we go again. I must look like a freak when I do this, right?
Starting point is 01:54:08 So when they cook the pork, pork by the way, go on not beef, beef, beast is like shit. Yeah. They cook the pork, right? There's like juices, right? And normally you just kind of like, pick up the pork and put it in the rice, put some mayo on it and then eat it.
Starting point is 01:54:21 Yeah. I fucking like, in the restaurant. I'm like, hold up my plate and like, pour all like the fats and stuff on the rice. I know, I can agree. That tastes so fucking good, dude, because it makes it so rich. But it's just the, the fucking audacity
Starting point is 01:54:35 to go into a beef bowl place and order pork. What you, wait, I mean, this guy. Okay, this guy. Honestly, you go matzia man, I'm telling you, man, that pork and ginger. Oh no, I've had it. Yeah, yeah. It's great.
Starting point is 01:54:46 We were smashed one time and I was like, but it's like vanilla beef. Why would I have a... Vanilla beef, are you out of your mind? Don't start this again! Vanilla beef, really? Oh my God, man. Like I would definitely, if I walk into a Matzia,
Starting point is 01:54:59 I'm ordering a beef ball. It's beef without attitude. What can I say? That's pork. Yeah. That's pork. Yeah, man, I don't know, man. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 01:55:07 This is, I already know. This is gonna be like the biggest comment war in the comment section out of like any shitty opinion in anime. We have mainly Americans watching us, and I feel that Americans will side with beef, because like beef is way more prevalent. And they're right.
Starting point is 01:55:22 No, no, they're not right, God. They're not right. You know what's an underrated meat? Lamb. Lamb is pretty fucking good. Lamb's, okay, here's the thing about lamb is that it has to be like really good quality lamb. Yeah, because if it's not like,
Starting point is 01:55:35 the aftertaste and lamb can be so overpowering that it just, it just tastes like hot. Yeah, yeah, lamb fucking sucks here, bro. Yeah, sometimes leather, it's like eating leather, essentially. Yeah, we went to a restaurant once, man, and it was like a roulette wheel on this lamb. For some reason, some of these, lamb chops were like perfectly cooked.
Starting point is 01:55:54 You had another one. It's like trying to chew through a tire man. It was like, yeah. It's like when do I just swallow it and give up, right? When do I just admit? Like I had a chisel of jaw liner by the end of the end of it because this is from all the fucking chewing I was doing. It's like either my jaw dislocates
Starting point is 01:56:09 or like I'm done, bro. Or I'm choking on this fucking tire piece of a land. Yeah, there's just some meats like that and especially coming from whales where like, you know, they fuck sheep, that's the stereotype, right? That's what everyone does. I mean, lamb is fucking great. Yeah, great lamb.
Starting point is 01:56:22 I guess like another question I had for you, which is like a conversation I've had with a lot of people who have never been to Asia. Go ahead. Who had like never been to Asia or like lived in Asia is this concept of cooking your own meal in a restaurant. Like going to a Korean barbecue or going to a Shaboo Shaboo and having to like cook your own meal
Starting point is 01:56:42 and like cook your own meats. Like what was your opinion of that? As a colonial white man, I'm sorry. As an upper class white man. Because I really like that. I really like the social. The first time I went to Korean barbecue was with you and I was like, I'm just like,
Starting point is 01:56:57 I'm just like, can't do this. Let the brown boy do it. Because I really like the social aspect of one, being able to control like how, for example, how cooked your steak is and being able to do that yourself. Like, yeah, sure, we have, we have Gordon Ramsey, right? Yeah. He's a white man who can cook. That's an anomaly, right?
Starting point is 01:57:16 White people can't cook, man. I'll give it to every other culture. Because there's a chain of pubs in Australia where inside of the pub, there's literally just a butcher of just rows and rows of steaks and meats and whatever. And you pick out whatever steak you want, you pay for it, they give it to you,
Starting point is 01:57:33 and then you have to take that over to the barbecue and just make it yourself. The reason why I don't like cooking it myself is one, I wanna pay the other person to do that right. Like, I don't wanna pay you so I can fuck up this piece of meat. Right. I'll go and do that at home. Like, I'll go and fuck this stuff.
Starting point is 01:57:48 I don't wanna embarrass myself in public. Because the worst part is, is when you like go to Korean barbecue, you take someone there. When you take someone to Korean barbecue or any kind of barbecue like that, you're the one who has to cook. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:00 Because you took them there. It's on you. And they just sit back and they're like, go ahead, go ahead. And then I'm like, fuck dude, how do I know this is cook? And the worst part is they're like, let's get chicken.
Starting point is 01:58:09 I'm like, fuck, fuck, when is chicken cooked? I don't know, because I'm personally, I will just let the chicken get black. And I'm like, all right, it's safe to eat. It's good to eat. It's good to eat. Chicken kids. But that's just,
Starting point is 01:58:22 It's just like you're okay with going to a barbecue and having someone cook for you. So why can't you put that in like a restaurant experience, right? What's the difference? I mean, because it's like we're all bringing our own meats, you know, we're all bringing our own. But you can just order like good quality meat, I guess. Why would I do that at a restaurant
Starting point is 01:58:38 when I could just do that at home? Are you the exact same experience? Because why'd you go to a barbecue? Why do people do barbecues? It's because it's a social experience. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the exact same thing with like, going to a shaboo shaboo or going to like a Korean.
Starting point is 01:58:51 Yeah, but if I could, Okay, if you gave me the choice, you're like, Connor, you can have Korean barbecue where you cook it or cream barbecue where the guy who works here and often comes on. Like, because they see you fucking burning the meat anyway and they come in like, no, no, no, let me, and they start like, they're like,
Starting point is 01:59:05 they come and fix it for you. So just, just save the embarrassment and just do it for you right now. But it's just like an activity, right? Because I feel like, it's- Go do an activity, why are you gonna make your fucking meal into an adventure, bro? Because, because like, okay, here's the thing,
Starting point is 01:59:18 especially like, when, I remember going to America, where the only, The only reason you like, especially hanging out with Sydney's family, like deep in the Midwest, like they only go to a restaurant to eat. And that's just it. I think that's how it should be. But I think the only exception to me is hot pot
Starting point is 01:59:35 because you can't fuck hot pot up. You can't fuck that, you just throw everything in. Just throw it all in. I don't know, I've seen people fuck up a hot. Yeah, that's true. That's true. You can fuck up a hot pot. But like to me, like a restaurant can be like an entire experience
Starting point is 01:59:46 or you like catch up with friends and everything. But like I feel like in the West, you like you don't go to a restaurant for anything else but the purpose of just having a meal and eating. I disagree, I think it's changing a little bit now. At least it was in the UK before I left. Like it was very much becoming like an experience
Starting point is 02:00:01 kind of thing over a, you know, whatever the restaurant is. There's been, like some of the quietest restaurants I've ever been to have been in America. Yeah. Where no one is talking and they're just silently eating. I'm like, you could do this at home. I don't like to make my meal that I look forward to all day into a stressful thing.
Starting point is 02:00:19 Like if every time I took a shit, I had to put in like the input code and it's flashing on the bidet. Dude, that's gonna, I don't wanna, yeah, it's a fun activity at first, but that's gonna get old real fucking fast. Like, if you're adding steps. I don't know if that's the same thing.
Starting point is 02:00:32 I mean, I just feel like you're adding steps to something that doesn't require steps, right? But it does, that's where the enjoyment comes in. Yeah. Why? It's like a group activity, right? Okay, shout out to the people who get anxiety with cooking, like, I'm sure you can relate.
Starting point is 02:00:45 You're like, why would I wanna fuck this up, but I can't just pay someone to do it. In my defense, like, I can't cook to save my life. I fuck up a toast. Right, right. Like that's the kind of like, that's the kind of like, fucking horrible food.
Starting point is 02:00:56 And you will cook your own food in those restaurants. And yet, I love going to Yaki Niku and being the one to be like, I'll cook the meat. Yeah. Because it's the one and only time I'm in front of food where I have control. It's like a power move. It is a power move.
Starting point is 02:01:08 Let me fucking happen this. Like, I'll go. Let me cook the meat. Yeah. I mean, it's like, if you get impressed by someone putting meat on a grill, I mean, fair play to you, man. I'm not really buying that. I'm like, go and work in the kitchen.
Starting point is 02:01:20 You can do you know. Get out of my seat. That's what I love about like Yaki Niku and like Korean Korean, Korean barbecues is that it's literally, you just have a fucking meal of just grilled meat. Yeah. That's like having the burger without the butter.
Starting point is 02:01:35 Here's my main problem. Cut out of the fucking meal, man. And just give me the good shit, man. I love Yakiniku. Don't get me wrong, man. I love Yakiniku. There is a fundamental problem with Yaki Niko. Go on.
Starting point is 02:01:45 I hate the loading times for the meat, man. Because you can't skip the loading time. You can't skip the load, right? Okay, at a good restaurant, right, what would a good restaurant do? They prepare all the foods that comes out at the same time. Yeah. The sound of a good restaurant, right? Because everyone can start eating immediately, right?
Starting point is 02:02:03 With the Yaki Niku place, right? Especially if you go with fucking Meilin, right? I wanna chuck all the meat on straight away so that we can start eating everything. And like we have a constant stream of meat coming in, right? Meilin, when I went with her, she wanted to put one tiny fucking piece of beef on it and wait, five minutes.
Starting point is 02:02:20 Well, that's May Lynn's problem. Yeah, yeah. You know. That's why you don't go to a restaurant with Maylin. What I'm saying is when I like to eat, I want to keep eating. Yeah, that's why you've got to fucking optimize it. So you have, you can fucking optimize this because you have, you have like the meats on it. And then as the meat's getting done, you put more meat on it and you put this on a side.
Starting point is 02:02:41 And then as you're eating the meat, then the other meat is cooking. There's always, and you're never, there's never like a down period. No, no, that's not true. That doesn't happen. In a realistic world, gone, that isn't how. That is how it happens. That is how it happens. I don't know,
Starting point is 02:02:56 you've just not optimized your Korean barbecue experience. Maybe you've done like Yaki Niku because you've just been to shit Yaki Niko. Also, right? Here's another awkward scenario. I hate this, right? Okay. Four of you go to Yaki Niki restaurant, right?
Starting point is 02:03:09 Right. The A5 beef comes out. It's in six pieces. What do you do, gone? Who decides who gets, how many A5? This is the A5 beef gone. Come on. This is like 8,000 yen for these six slabs.
Starting point is 02:03:20 Who gets what, Garn? Because personally, I'm not gonna lie, I want two. Okay. Well, that's- How do I argue? I want to-to- the Asian experience of sharing your meals and sharing your like dishes, right? How the fuck do we turn six into eight gone?
Starting point is 02:03:34 Because someone- Cut one of them in half? No, that's depressing, that's depressing, bro. You can't do that, man. It's already pre-cut. Asian families can do it no problem. It's like, let me tell, I need to do monopoly mind games
Starting point is 02:03:46 at my fucking family dinner to make sure I'm getting the most- Let me tell you how the solves there. Because this happens every time. Yeah, you have the four pieces, you have two pieces left, and then Connor's like, is not gonna eat these?
Starting point is 02:03:58 Okay, I'll just take it. In my mind, right? That is the experience hanging out with Connor. In my mind, right? He is that guy who's just like, listen, you know what's more stressful than when you're hungry and there's one piece left
Starting point is 02:04:09 and nobody seems to give a fuck that there's one piece left on the table? It's like, are we gonna eat this or not? Because if no one's gonna do it, I'm gonna do it. Then just do it. No, because I also, you know, maybe, okay, with you guys, I don't give a fuck, right?
Starting point is 02:04:21 I'll do it. But maybe when we first get into know each other, I didn't want you guys to go home and be like, why he's gonna always fucking taking all our food, man? He's always going for it straight away. He's gone for the kill, right? This is a real social problem. Because if I'm getting dinner right,
Starting point is 02:04:35 every single time, I have my piece, I'll chat a little bit, and I look to go and get my next piece and the fucking fat ass over there is taking it every time. I want to know that there's at least a cool down period between him eating one piece and like there's at least a two minute cool down
Starting point is 02:04:48 to wait, right? And it's so stressful. There's so many social issues with meat being cooked on its own. Just let us all order our own shit. I feel like you're like way too over-complicated this man. Listen, because you don't realize it, Joey. You're creating problems out of nothing. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 02:05:01 Because Joey, your social skills are like perfectly normal human beings, right? Right. You just glide through it. You don't worry about it. Joey just dances through it, man. For me, it's like a science, bro. It's a science for social situations, right? You gotta make sure you don't do anything
Starting point is 02:05:15 for a new person that could make you seem weird, right? Right. So that includes not even things. too much. If you go home, they think you're a fat ass, oh, get a load of this guy, right, eating all our meat, right? That we all split the bill on. Yeah, the most. Connor should have paid the money. Yeah, but in my mind, it's like, if you're not gonna eat it, we, like, you guys know we're splitting this meal.
Starting point is 02:05:34 No, no, no, yeah. So if you're not gonna eat it, I'm gonna just fucking take it. But sometimes that hasn't been made clear, right? Who's, who's splitting? Are we splitting this? Are we not? Like, we don't know. This are the awkward social situations that you encounter often, Joe. Right, but I'm just like, well, you know, this is the, this opportunity of taking this last piece of meat is here right now. I don't give a fuck about like, oh, what percentage are we gonna split this based on how many pieces of meat we ate?
Starting point is 02:05:57 I'm jealous of you, Jerry, that you can throw caution to the wind like that and just take the meat. If people think I'm a fat ass, well then that's their problem. I have the full stomach, not you. I mean, you missed the opportunity, I take that opportunity. I'm an opportunist in that sense.
Starting point is 02:06:10 You say that like you're the one who always takes the last piece when it's me. Yeah, it is you. It's me, but I'm just like, look this fucking fat. What I do is, I wait. You gotta wait, right? until everyone, you're pretty confident that everyone has just decided
Starting point is 02:06:23 they don't want this anymore. Right, right. And then you go in for the kill. You take the- See, I've been in way too many situations where it's such a Japanese thing, especially when you go to like a business dinner in Japan, there's always, it's like a rule, it's like a social rule to leave one piece
Starting point is 02:06:35 of whatever the fuck it is. Why? That's so annoying. Because it's this whole idea of like, Japanese coach. You're making a stressful situation. No, you go. No, you go. It's like, please, please.
Starting point is 02:06:45 It's the crowd before me. That's the whole collective mentality, right? And so I've been in so many of those situations where in the end, no one takes the piece at all. And they just take the food back? And then they just take the food back. Oh no, dude, tell me back to the kitchen. Give me all the one piece life there.
Starting point is 02:06:59 So that's why now, because I've been in so many situations where I'm like, why is you taking that away? There's still one piece left on it. Yeah. I'm just like, let me use my Geijin card for a second here and just like, give me that piece. Think about all the wasted food that happened because of socially orchid situations.
Starting point is 02:07:12 Yeah. Wasn't it better if we all just like figure that a piece of meat, bro? It's not just a piece of meat, John. That's A5B for you're talking. She meant something to me. I mean, if it's A5B, fair enough, but if it's like, if it's like another piece of like pork or something,
Starting point is 02:07:26 and I'm like fucking, this guy's so fucking, this guy gets two million subs, he changes man. No more hot dogs, no more spam for gum. Can I talk about one thing that I'm not a fan of in Japanese cooking culture,
Starting point is 02:07:43 which is not really like widespread, but okay, so we're in a Rio can. Okay. Okay. And we have this mini grill. And we have this mini grill. Oh my God. Next to us, right? Okay.
Starting point is 02:07:57 And they put like a shellfish on the grill. Abalone. Abalone. Yeah. They put a shellfish on this grill, right? Expensive fish. And we're all sitting next to each other. And then the fish, the shellfish starts dancing and turning.
Starting point is 02:08:13 And I'm just like, hmm, okay. A shellfish meant to do that when they're dead? And, and then it's, It looks like it's like trying to crawl off this grill. And then it goes from like, I slowly start to realize that shit's alive. Yeah. I'm watching something being burned alive in front of my eyes.
Starting point is 02:08:34 And you expect me to eat this shit? Yeah, because you know that shit's fresh. That shit was amazing. It was so, yeah. Isn't that like $50 a piece? You know why it was amazing? Because it was alive two minutes ago. Dude, it was, okay.
Starting point is 02:08:46 No, no, there's this, there's fresh food. And then there's witness. a fucking murder before I'm about to eat. It's a fucking abalone, who cares? It's not like you knew this abalone, it's not like watching a friend, but this man's like a meat eater and now he's fucking complaining that a shellfish dies in front of him.
Starting point is 02:09:04 I'm like, like, I'm fine. Would you, would you kill every animal that you eat? Would you kill a cow? Yeah, but like... That's a fucking lie. You're sitting here being like, oh no, this shellfish died. You tell me that you would kill a cow and eat it. No, no, you would kill a cow.
Starting point is 02:09:20 Because they're like, I, like, I need to be mentally prepared. I'm not, yes, yes. You eat all of this meat like it's nothing, bro. You never think about it, bro. You can't just sit here and then pick and choose when you see a little thing squirming in front of you, being like, oh, well, I guess, you know, now I have a problem with this.
Starting point is 02:09:38 No, because like, okay, someone should do something about this. Like, I know animal needs to be killed, you know, in order for me to eat and everything. Like, if I need to kill an animal to eat it, I'll fucking do it. But like I need to be in like the mental head space, but when I'm sitting down at like a restaurant
Starting point is 02:09:54 or something like that. Fuck, we're getting a chicken bro. I want to see him kill it. No, because it's not the only time it's happened because like a few weeks ago, I went to this tepaniaki place, which a tepaniaki is like a flat grill and a chef like cooks the food. Oh yeah, I like that. I like that.
Starting point is 02:10:10 Yeah, I fucking amazing. And great, that someone else cooks it for you. Yeah, yeah. But I remember I was sitting there with Sydney and on the opposite side, the other people had just ordered lobsters. And so what happens is that they get they get the freshest lobster.
Starting point is 02:10:26 They have like a tank. They have the tank with this like just lobsters in it. And they pick a lobster and the chef like puts the lobster in front of them and it's like fucking trying to crawl around and like, this is a fresh fucking lobster. Now I've seen lobsters being prepared by fucking Gordon Ramsey and shit. He like he like puts a knife in like the spinal cord and like kills it instantly.
Starting point is 02:10:46 But not at this fucking restaurant. This fucking restaurant presents this one. lobster, it's crawling around and the customer's like, yes, this is a fresh lobster. This is amazing. And the chef goes like, okay, brilliant. Put the lobster on the grill and it's, and you just see it being fucking cooked
Starting point is 02:11:02 and it's like trying to fucking crawl away. To be fair, I'd rather see that. Then when you go in those shitty restaurants with those obviously dead lobsters in the tank that are like barely fucking alive because it's been suffocated in their own shit. Like, I would rather the lobster, probably have quite a painful death,
Starting point is 02:11:18 but like it's over and pretty pretty fast, you know. Yeah, it probably tastes better too. And it's not poisoning its friends. Yeah, exactly. When a lobster dies in that tank, bro, all those lobsters are down. I see the lobsts, I'm like,
Starting point is 02:11:28 I say the lobster like, okay, this is a healthy, like young lobster, right? Like, it's gonna do. What are you gonna do? What are you gonna do? Fucking take it out our back and put a bullet in his head, don? What do you want?
Starting point is 02:11:40 Yes, yes, please. No, kill it first. No, who can't. Kill it before you fucking burn it to death and give it like a few minutes of agony. I don't know. This is how vegans are born. This is literally how vegans are.
Starting point is 02:11:54 This guy is the same guy who would sit there and be like, it doesn't taste fresh enough. Let me murder the cow myself. Let me grab the meat from inside its loins. I don't know, I just like, if I know that something, if I know that I'm just gonna witness a murder before a meal, I'm like, okay, let me prepare myself for this. I'm pretty sure they can't feel pain though or anything.
Starting point is 02:12:14 I'm pretty sure they can't feel pain. I don't know if they can feel pain or not. That's beside the point that I'm trying to make here. I don't know if they feel pain, but it's, I'll still always remember. More than the flavor of that abalone we had at that Yolkan is his face. Like, it was, it was incredible.
Starting point is 02:12:28 It was like, it was like you witnessed the box of kittens die. Like, it's just a fucking abalone. Like, no, because I just, I have never seen any fucking living being just squirm right in front of my face as I'm about to eat it, I guess. You was like, it was just, it was like, you can see the realization of my face
Starting point is 02:12:45 when I'm just like, ha ha, we're grilling me. Oh, it's, uh, It's moving. Why is it moving? I remember asking you guys, why is this thing moving? Is this alive? And then you're like, yeah, it's alive.
Starting point is 02:12:56 Yeah, I'm just like, oh, it's alive. I'm just watching something being killed. It didn't look very appetizing, I will say. Isn't it referred to as like a pussy? Because it looks like- It does look like a bit of a vagina. It does, yeah, because they- Aboloni just does be like a nickname for it where like,
Starting point is 02:13:11 it's in Japan where like a man call something. Yeah, really? I don't know about that. I think some Japanese told me that like, yeah, it's famous for looking like. Yeah, it's straight- It doesn't look appetizing enough. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:22 And then it dies in front of you. Imagine a squirming vagina on a, on a grill. I wanna get monetized, Joey. God damn it. You're the one that brought up the fucking vagina. I didn't even know that shit. But two of those words together in combination
Starting point is 02:13:35 sound disgusting. Or squirming vagina. Joey, stop. Smudan, can you fucking censor that shit, please? All right. Do you have any other food topics? Anything else? I'm trying to think of there.
Starting point is 02:13:45 There's got to be something else before we end. There's a lot of Japanese food out there just gets completely swept under the rug. Because again, the whole Western perception is ramen and sushi. That's it, that's all Japan has to offer. Okay. I mean, I think-
Starting point is 02:13:57 Okonomiyaki is okay. Okonomiyaki is like, you take that back, my fuck. You fucking take that shit back. Okonomiyaki is like a good, like, pasta in elsewhere. Like, it's like a carb filling and it's very like, you can't really get mad at pasta most of the time. That's Okonomiyaki. You're saying a lot of shit for someone in slap distance.
Starting point is 02:14:17 At least God is like on the other side of the table, but I can just fucking, Okinawiyaki, which is like, how do I explain Okinawaii? It's a savory pancake. That's exactly my point. It's just a savory pancake. And it looks better than a taste.
Starting point is 02:14:33 Because you see Okanamiaki and it's like the fucking Shokageki food porn. You could watch this thing and jack off to it, basically. But when you actually eat it, it's just like, wow, this is, this should be up on a, this should be up on a fucking painting. I'm gonna quit this podcast. Just because I've never heard anyone,
Starting point is 02:14:52 every time I've taken someone from overseas to an Okonomiyaki place, they've had the food wars experience. It's just street food though. It is a street food, but it's probably the best street food you can have. Like I will happily take an Okonomiyaki over like a yaksoba. Ah. In my opinion. Maybe.
Starting point is 02:15:11 No, I take a yaki sober as well, don't get me wrong. Like all street food is great. Fried food is great. Okay, but like, okay, so then I'll- It's all kind of me, it's like, well, yeah, because it's, it's, it's B-grade food, right? It's street food, of course. It's not gonna be like, oh my God,
Starting point is 02:15:25 this is the best meal I've ever had. It's just there to fill your stomach, right? But in no world, if a Matsia is nearby, am I not gonna choose Matt? Matsia is the definition of B-grade food. What are you talking about? Yeah, but like that's what I'm saying, it's the king of people.
Starting point is 02:15:38 The only difference between Matsia and street food is that Matzia has a logo. Yeah. That's the only different. It's comfortable, man. It's comfortable. Yeah, sure, I saw a cockroach run across the floor one time. Yeah, right?
Starting point is 02:15:51 I don't give a fuck. The food tastes amazing. Okay, so then if Matsia started making like yaku-soba and Okonomiyaki, would you eat it? No. What the fuck's the difference? I get the same, because dude, the beef bowls are like, if we're talking B-grade food in Japan,
Starting point is 02:16:03 beef bowls and pork balls are the king. Oh yeah, of course. But they're not good, but you're not gonna get a beef bowl and a pork bowl at a fucking summer festival. You're gonna get an Okonomiyaki or Yaks several times. Yeah, when I get to the summer festival, I'm like, yo, this is sick, Google Maps, where's the nearest Matsia?
Starting point is 02:16:19 Yeah. Jesus Christ. I never wanna go to a summer festival with you. Are we just gonna end up in a fucking Matsia? No, because like, I remember we went, I think Aki got like all the fucking weird seafood. I'm like, oh, that's cool, that's really cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:16:33 It's got a restaurant. As the certified Japanese person, that's why I am now. I'm the certified Japanese person of trash taste. That's all I am. Yeah, why is anyone taking my opinion on food? I'm white. What are the Japanese dishes that people should know
Starting point is 02:16:49 outside of just ramen and sushi and now we've mentioned suki, man. Yeah, I feel that, again, it's a lot of like, I mean, we've already touched upon a lot of them, right? Like, Ski-Man is one. Skiyaki is definitely another one. Yaku-Torri, like, just a lot of, well, shit, a lot of street food,
Starting point is 02:17:07 like just B-Great street food, like, you know, as much as you guys say that it's me, like, I reckon not enough people try Okolomaniaki. I will. I will destroy an Okonomiyaki. Don't be wrong, but I'm not gonna feel happy about it. Yeah. Here's the thing, right, I feel like moving Japan
Starting point is 02:17:22 has just completely shifted my perception of what good food is. Because you give me that shit when I come from England, everything's like S tier. Everything in Japan is like S tier compared to like what you can get in England. And then you live here, you're like, man, there's different tiers of S tier.
Starting point is 02:17:36 Yeah, yeah. There's like a single S tier, there's a triple S tier. I saw an article that we shared around on Twitter. It was basically like, why does Japan and Switzerland have such a high like baseline for what should be like standard. Yeah. In terms of like just everything in life.
Starting point is 02:17:50 Right, right. Especially food, like just public transport, like daily living, like just everything in life has such a high minimum requirement in Japan. In the UK it's like I could pay like a hundred pounds and get a fucking garbage meal. Right, right, right. In Japan it's just not gonna happen.
Starting point is 02:18:07 Yeah, if you pay more than normal here, you will just get something good. You'll get an experience. I've never gone to a restaurant here where I've paid more than like the baseline and been disappointed. Yeah, yeah. And even then, like I said, like the mansiers, right?
Starting point is 02:18:19 And the chains and the really average stuff, it's so good that like anywhere you go in Japan, if you're not from here, you'll probably be really satisfied with it. And fuck, it must be awful being Japanese and traveling overseas and being like, wait, this restaurant was shit. I just paid a hundred pounds. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:36 And it was garbage. How is this legal? Yeah. They know it's shit, right? Yeah, of course they do. They don't give a shit though. They don't give a shit, they don't care. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:18:45 It's just really interesting. And yeah, that is the baseline I think is why, when anyone asks you, like, what is your favorite thing about Japan? I'm sure we can all agree that it's probably top three of like food. The food, yeah. Food is amazing.
Starting point is 02:18:57 I knew I was gonna like the anime or whatever. Yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah. And yeah, is hamburger on its own devastation to hamburgers worldwide? Yeah, it is. But is it still gonna be better than any other country that does it? Honestly? Yeah, it will be.
Starting point is 02:19:12 It's gonna be better. Like, I'll admit that. That's the thing is that I think a lot of people who haven't come to Japan or know nothing about the Japanese food culture here think that when people say the food is just better in Japan. Yeah, people, I think people are just quick to be like, oh, they think Japanese food is better in Japan.
Starting point is 02:19:28 Of course it is. No, no, it's, every food is better in Japan. Look, look, let me just tell you like this. It just don't miss, okay? No matter where you go in Japan, no matter where you go in Japan, you don't miss. And even like foreign foods, like Italian food is such a unique flavor here,
Starting point is 02:19:43 but in a really good way. The way I see it is Italian food in Japan is the way that New York pizza is to pizza. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a totally different take on it that's still really good. It still works. Yeah, it's really good.
Starting point is 02:19:55 And I feel like it's the same way with a lot of the foods they have here. And so a lot of people ask, oh, you know, can you get like authentic? It might not be authentic, but who the fuck gives a shit if it's authentic? If it tastes good and it's amazing, who cares?
Starting point is 02:20:06 I mean, we recently found like an Indian, like that shit. That's very authentic. Yeah, it's authentic, and it was also still really, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Amazing.
Starting point is 02:20:15 Like, I mean. Destroyed my fucking stomach. Oh yeah. Like a proper Indian shirt. Exactly. Like the non was perfect non. Yeah. Amazing.
Starting point is 02:20:21 If I'm waking up the next day and I'm not destroying my fucking toilet, that's not a proper Indian. It's not a proper Indian. I want to be like doubting it. Every single moment until it's in my mouth. Then I'm like, I made the right decision. Yeah, if I wake up in the morning
Starting point is 02:20:35 and I don't know if it's a fart or a sharp, that's how you know it's a good curry, right? And that's been that episode of it. Hey, let's, I'll say thank you to all the patrons who help make this show come to life. I will say, if you ever do come to Japan, please get a hamburgu,
Starting point is 02:20:50 just so you can finish this debate. Honestly, just give anything a go. Malene pointed something out to us before we end. Unagi, Unagi is God tier. It's like this. Oh my God. Oh my God. Something we all agree on. Do we all agree on?
Starting point is 02:21:04 Yes, eat the Unagi. Unagi is, you explain. Unagi is, it's like a boiled eel, and then it's grilled and in this like beautiful I don't even know how to describe it. And they just serve it on the rice. And they don't get you wrong, it's very expensive. It is.
Starting point is 02:21:19 But it is worth the price. It's a summer food and it is, you eat it and you feel clean, you feel happy, but you're getting that fillingness that you get from other stuff. It's so good. It's so weird because eating Unagi is like in the middle of eating fish and meat. I can't explain it.
Starting point is 02:21:36 Like it feels like a fish, but it is feeling like a meat. It sits like a meat. Yeah, it's like a meat. It still sounds like something that like, I think a lot of Westerners, I mean, I know if you told me eel, I'd be like, I don't wanna eat eel. Yeah. But it falls apart, it doesn't taste fishy at all.
Starting point is 02:21:52 It's so good. Yeah, okay, it's expensive. Like I think when we went to one. We went to a really fancy one, but you paid like 60 bucks for one. I fucking paid 68 bucks for me. I know that's too much. I know that's a lot, but like my brain just turned off.
Starting point is 02:22:05 I didn't look at the price. I wanted a large one. Give me the large one. It was like two and a half eels of this and I was like, Yeah. Oh. It was really fucking good.
Starting point is 02:22:14 It was really fucking good. And like if you come here during the summer, I highly recommend it. I think it is by far the best summer food in Japan. Easily. I don't think there's anything close to it. Winter food, a lot of heavyweight contenders, bro. But in the summer, I think Unagi's the king.
Starting point is 02:22:28 Yeah. So in summation, if you ever come to Japan, apart from the usual ramen and sushi that you're gonna try anyway, regardless of what we said. You can still get it in the winter, it's good. Get in Nagy, you can never go wrong with that. Tsukhiemann. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:41 We need more people in the cult of Tsukamen. I need to build this cult. The cold of Tsuketman. Sashimi, get sashimi. This is the only cold that you're saying to be later for. For me, don't get curry. No matter where you get curry. Yeah, you can get curry.
Starting point is 02:22:55 Try it, try it. Try it. And I'm like if you've never tried curry before, try it. Japanese curry. But if you have tried curry before, it's, to me, it's gonna taste exactly the same as it is everywhere else. Soba, try sober.
Starting point is 02:23:06 You know, some healthy noodles. Try sober. Udon, just to confirm you don't like it. Bottom line, There's way more to Japanese food than ramen and sushi. There's so much more. And I guarantee everything you'll try here is either gonna be some kind of just a positive experience
Starting point is 02:23:20 or just something life-changing. Yeah, before we ended, I wanna say that like when you eat food here, like you almost wanna cry because you just feel like someone cares. Like you feel like someone really cared about this. I almost did cry when I fucking-dhapen- We've already talked about that. All the food, you're like, fuck man. Someone really fucking cared about the quality here.
Starting point is 02:23:39 And if that doesn't make you tear up, Every single time you've a bite of food. I don't know what will now. I never thought I'd fucking almost cry over fucking noodles, but here I was. Yeah, and it's the same thing like fruit, right? Like they have that saying of like, you know, the reason why it's so expensive
Starting point is 02:23:54 is so much love is put in time. You do really feel like, I know it's cheesy as fuck and I think it's dumb as fuck when they say it, but when you eat that food, you do feel like every single step of the process, everyone cares. For some reason, it's just the marketing ploy everywhere else, but in Japan you actually kind of genuinely feel like,
Starting point is 02:24:08 okay, yeah, it might be. You feel the love. Yeah. You feel like it's pride. There's so much pride in every single piece of food that you eat and you can just taste it. And just honestly, when you come here, go on Google Maps.
Starting point is 02:24:20 If it's over four stars, it's gonna be amazing. I guarantee it. Just go everywhere, trust me. Because they are fucking strict with their ratings. Because when you compliment the chefs, they're like, they actually like appreciate that. This is the only place on earth where I've actually wanted to be like,
Starting point is 02:24:33 do the meme where it's like, can you call the chef over? No, no, I got to shake his hand. I gotta shake this man's hand man. Yeah. This man's done a masterpiece. Yeah, like if I ever get the opportunity, I like thank the chef.
Starting point is 02:24:44 Yeah, exactly. Simezsha. Yeah, chef. Super, super, shi. Yeah. So yeah, I think that's everything we wanted to talk about. I can't believe the most heated podcast we've ever had. What's about fucking meat?
Starting point is 02:24:57 What's about meat? Remember how this conversation started with me being pescatarian? This, like, made the school days debate, like, like, baby, like baby mode, man. I just feel like it should never have been in debate. It's just not even a point. Like it's so fucking dumb. You know what?
Starting point is 02:25:12 You can start the debate over in the comments. We're gonna love looking through those. Or you can do it on our Twitter or subreddit, which is as always down in the description below. So meme the fuck out of our heated meat argument. But yeah. Will you beat our meat argument? That was awful.
Starting point is 02:25:30 I feel bad for laughing. Thank you for the patrons. You are amazing. This guy's my favorite. Thank you for 500K and all the fucking milestones were hit. And this has been trash taste. And we're, We'll see you guys later.
Starting point is 02:25:42 Let's go smash it, Sukkima. Yeah. I'm ready to fucking cry again, man. Let's go.

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