Trash Taste Podcast - The Man Behind YouTube's Craziest Experiment (ft. @Ethan Nestor) | Trash Taste #295

Episode Date: February 13, 2026

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Were you just hand farting? My favorite. Do you guys hand fawn? I can't do it. No. You can't hand faunt? No, I can't. Okay, Navi.

Okay. You got to calm down. Yeah. Yeah, that's, uh, in the workplace, Navi? Oh, God. I can't do it at all. You basically, like, try to make, like, a vacuum and then, like, pull out. Yeah.

It's my problem. And I'm pulling out. Yeah. Put that in. That's a good start of the episode. technique? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, imagine how Goku like does like a, like a fucking spirit bomb. You don't know what to say this. Have we seen Dragon Balls East? No, I haven't. Oh, yeah. Have you not seen Dragon Balls? Yeah. This is how he's like, car. Like he's

birthing it out of a vacuum. Sorry. Sorry, Ethan. It's okay. I haven't seen any anime. That's good. That's good. We, I'm sick of talking about it. All right. Yeah. Hey, welcome back to another episode of the Trash Tastes Podcast. I'm your host for today, Joey, and I'm with the boys, Connor and Gant, as per usual, but next to me is a guest. Introduce yourself, please. Oh. Hey. For a second, my brain was like, how do I fucking introduce myself? I don't remember. Hey, I'm Ethan. Uh, Joey and I have been together for a real long time now.

He's my boyfriend. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. What did you? Oh, you called me Gizmo Daddy. Yeah. And then you're, that was my nickname. That's my, that's my nickname. Okay, so. Context. You two have been friends for quite a while, right?

Yeah. I've not even for over a decade now. Yeah. What the fuck? Since I was like 17 or something. Yeah. Oh my God. What?

Where how did you guys meet? It was a mutual friend of Al's right? Yeah. It kind of, it, so it would happen what, 20, shit hell? 2014 or 15. Yeah. I don't really remember. This is really gay off play.

You tell the story, honey. No, no. Sorry. You tell it so much. You did it so much more than I knew. I was still in high school when we first met. What? Yeah.

So it was back when I was still doing a lot of like let's plays. And so was Ethan. Ethan was still doing a lot of let's plays under cranked gameplays. Yeah. And yeah, I guess I forgot who it was. It was like a mutual friend or something that kind of introduced us. And then we did a couple of gameplay stuff together back in the day. But then after that, we didn't really collaborate a whole.

or we just kind of stayed friends. Yeah. And then we met in Indianapolis, that wonderful. Oh, I went to that convention. Yeah, Indie PopCon. No, not Indie ComicCon. It was the other one. No, indie Popcon.

Indie Popcon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Indianapolis is my least favorite city in the world. Yeah. I've heard that from several people. Yeah, it wasn't great. Yeah. It's just a city that struggles to be a city.

It's so terrible. It has like the buildings to be a city. Yeah. But it has nothing that makes a city a city. I'm sorry, Indianapolis. Like, it really. I'm not sorry. I'm sorry because I really want to like it and I really love that steak and shake at like 2 a.m. when I was pretty blasted. That was pretty fun. My only positive memory of Indianapolis was getting the hangout team. Other than that, there wasn't a whole one going on. I hate it there. When I was on tour there, I said that at my show. I was like, hey, guys, just letting you know, I hate your city so much. And most people are like, yeah, it's fine. We get it. That's understandable. But it must be hyped to be from the worst city because that every other city is so much fun. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Traveling must be so fond. You go to, like, go to Ohio, like, dude, this rocks. You're sick. That's why it's great being from England, because everywhere, like, when you're a kid, everywhere you traveled, it was like such a, like, step up. I don't live, if you're Japanese, if you're Japanese, you travel and you're like, shit, when do I get back to my country, man? Yeah, but we're the family mom.

Yes. That's ain't it. Now, I've been here for a couple of days, and it seems like it's a really heated discussion. asking if your family mart 7-Eleven or what's the third one? Lawson. Yeah. What are your, what are your guys? It hurt me that you didn't remember Lawsons. That's my answer. Lawsons is like the more I go, the more, the longer I live here, the more Lawsons just keeps.

How different could they possibly give me? Oh, my sweet summer child, you know nothing. You are so naive. This is like saying all American burger chains are the same. You know? Okay. That's like saying, yeah. Burgessbee.

It's like, oh, McDonald's, how much more different could have been, like, fucking Burger King? Okay, that's... You're about saying hungry. Yeah, I was about saying hungry. I was about saying hungry. I saw myself. Okay, what's each of your favorites and why is it better? For food, it's definitely Lawson.

Lawson's is... But for everyday, like, things, because, you know, you don't always go to the convenience still for food. You know, you go sometimes if you need to, like, get small little things that maybe you can't get because the supermarket's closed or whatever. For that, I would say, for food is, for me, it's Lawson. But for everything else, it's 7-11. So I've got a couple of friends here who've been here for a while.

And I spoke to Chris and Pete, and they used to tell me, they'd be like, you know, Lawson's, when I came here, it was shit. Now it's really turned it all around. It's really the best of the bunch. I was like, wow. Because they all have so many different offerings, right? They all constantly doing, like, these new items,

like every week. There's something new. But Lawson's, out of all of them, has these really good, like, meals that are, like, collaborations oftentimes with other, like, companies, they have like, the Katsu is a collaboration with like Misen. Yeah, yeah. There's really good bowls that are like, when you heat them up, they're not just mush.

Like if you have like the family mart Katzodon, which is like the Katsu and egg and whatnot, it's just mush. Yeah. It's just so bad. Yeah. But the Lawson's one is like actually like near like what you would get from a store. It's so good. And they've really upped it.

And then Lawsons have also started collaborating with like Mugi, which is like kind of like an IKEA store here. So when you go in a lot of Lawsons, they'll just have like half an IKEA. Yeah, pretty much. Like the lifestyle stuff, not the furniture stuff. You're like, oh, this is great. Okay, and then they're like... I'm sure they took that, though,

because they saw the Family Mart clothes were popping off. Yeah. Because Family Mart does, and I've said this for as long as it's existed, Family Mart does the best pair of socks. Okay. If you go to a family... Are you wearing them right now? Not right now.

I do have like 12 pairs at home, though. I might be wearing some right now, actually. The family is? You might be? Maybe, I don't know. Show me a feat. Okay. Well, I have to...

socks on top of them because I went and I got I got some Doc Martins yesterday because everything here the yen is not good oh yeah we know eating good but it's great for me right yes and so I went and bought some Doc Martins and I wore them today and yesterday but they were destroying my oh yeah so I had to double socket yeah they take so long to break in yeah but the family mart socks like I heard it from a friend of mine he was like bro have you worn the family Mart socks and I was like bro the the convenience store socks. How good could they be? Bro, I wore it. It was like I was getting kissed in the feet by an angel.

I was just like, why do these feel so good? And they're so cheap too. So I think in my theory is Lawson saw how much family mom was popping off with that kind of stuff and was like, we need the help of IKEA, basically. But they all innovate. And so 7-11 recently innovated. They added the smoothie machine. Yeah. It feels like the meme of like those kids being like, is Fortnite under-Raked? This is it. This is it. But this is a game changer. They added, like, you can go to the freezer section. There's a bunch of frozen fruit that are dried and you just stick it in this machine and just blends it. So Lawson for food, family marr for socks. Yeah. Yes. And then

7-Eleven for everything else. If you want smoothies. If you want good smoothies, 7-Eleven. Okay. But generally like, I think 7-Eleven's gone downhill since. It has gone downhill. It has like top-frey when I moved here, but now it's, it's, I think it's like bottom. 7-Eleven is really falling off. Yeah, yeah, it really has. They added the smoothie machine, but I'm just like, what if it's not summer? You know, it's, it's, you go to family mark, you can get better quality stuff. And Lawson's is just like pulling ahead, man, up in the stratosphere. That is true. We're all winning, because they're all in competition. They all have to keep getting better and provide better things. It just gets infinitely better. It doesn't matter,

because wherever you are in Japan, there's your own walking distance of at least one of three, if not all three. So, I've seen places where there was like a Lawson and then across the road, directly across the road, there was another Lawson next to a family line. I'm just like, oh, the choices. We were talking out, and there's one, literally the next building next to it. Neighbors was family. Sorry, 7-11

Lawson's. Yeah. I didn't, I didn't understand the hype coming here until I got here, because everyone was like, the convenience stores are so good. You have to go. And I was like, how good could it possibly be? But compared to the U.S., the food at convenience stores here, is very good.

are, because if you're, if you're getting food at a convenience store in the US, it's like, it's so fine. It's just like, okay, I need to eat something. Fine. I will put something in my body. I think fine is a bit of an over-rest. I think it's, yeah, it's been rolling for a long time. It's edible. Oh, don't eat those. There's hot dogs. It's like tasting history. Yeah. But the, the food at the convenience stores here, it's actually, it's actually, you know, it's actually. actually good. Yeah, like the sandwiches are so good. Yeah, I was about to say, I saw your Insta store of you eating the egg sandwich. I think you nodded. Yeah. That was a family, family marijuana.

That's, yeah. I think, Brett is so soft. Yeah, it is. It's so soft. It's crazy. No, cross either. I miss crossed there. I miss crossed.

Are you a cross eater? Yeah, I like crust. Do you miss it? Um. Because there's not a single sandwich you can get here that has crossed. Yeah. Unless you make it yourself. Unless you go to like a sandwiched specialty store.

Yeah. That's pretty much it. Mini Stop used to have a sandwich that had crust. Oh yeah. And it was called the Igitissu Boxer. I remember that, yeah. I don't know if I miss crust being here. I'm like, that's fine.

I don't think about it. Where is all the crust going? That's what I want to know. Yeah. Where is this crust? It's, hmm. Trash. Probably.

Tragic. Put in my mouth. Did you guys ever get told the thing growing up that the crust is the healthiest part of the bruce? Yeah. Did you guys get told that? Yeah, I got told that. Yeah.

That was just like gas, like adults gaslighting. I always liked the crust, though, so I never had a problem. I never had a problem crust. Yeah, it's just a way to get kids to eat crust. Kids respond to healthy. Yeah, because it was like, oh, it's the healthiest part you have to eat it, but it's no more healthy than the rest of the It's still great. I've heard the skin of the apple was the healthiest part of the apple as well.

I don't know if that's true. I think it's the most, it's got the fiber in it and stuff. I love these animals. Can you Google that? Can you Google it? Can you Google it? No, he never believes me. Oh no.

He never believes me. There you go. Skin of the apples where the most the fiber is. Believe me once for God. But is it the healthiest part? Oh my God. I didn't. It's not the most fiber.

I'm sure it's healthy. I'd never deny that. And it has 40% more vitamin A in 25% more potassium. This, okay. So there you go. To be fair, I asked a yes or no question and Google didn't give me a yes or no question. Oh my God.

It is just giving me stats and statistics. Well, I wanted a simple yes or no question. And were my parents gas-lising me? Okay, all-power frame. They gave you, yes. All-power phrase, it's yes. Wait, can we look up to see if the, if the crust of the bread? Is there a healthy part of bread?

It has to be. It has to be the healthiest part. No more nutritious. Yeah, it's the same. See, that was a nice yes or no. That was a, that was a definite no. It was a yes or no. They just gave you more information.

Yeah, the back it up. Anyway, more importantly, how's Japan been treating you? It's been so good. Because I had to gaslight this motherfucker for 10 years. Yeah. It took 10 years. 10 years. Like every year, we would see each other pretty much at like AX.

Yeah. And I'd be like, this year's the year. I'm going to come to Japan. It's going to be great. And then I never did. No. And then this year, for some reason, I don't know what changed this year. I just committed.

I think it's because we were both drunk. and you were like, yeah, I'll believe it when I see it. You coming to Japan and I was like, I'm gonna prove you wrong. The fact that he lost faith in you coming. Yeah, no, I think it was that because I was like, I'm buying my flights right now. Yeah, I used the disappointed dad technique, basically. Don't even bother doing the best.

Yeah, and I'm like, you know what? It's fine. I guess I'll come and visit you every year. Are you, do you regret that you didn't come sooner now, but? Uh, I do regret that I haven't come soon, but. Good. I almost wasn't here because the government shut down in the U.S. and my passport was expired. Oh.

And so I left L.A. the 21st. I got my passport back on the 18th. So I, and I didn't hear anything. It was just like your passport is still being processed. So I was like, I might not be able to come anymore. And then Joey's going to be really mad. And he's going to think that I'm lying. And be like, I couldn't get it back. Friendship over. Mm-hmm. But I'm here.

And it's so good. It's so great. It's so clean. We were talking about right before this, I tweeted about how Japan is sick and America sucks and people got really, really, really upset about it. But it's just, it's so clean here and everything runs efficiently and things make sense. Yeah. I mean, there's all, look, every country has problems. Everyone knows this. But yeah, there are a lot of things why you might enjoy Japan. The quality of life and the daily quality of life is really high. Like, your everyday life is so good. It's so quiet here compared to the U.S. Like being in a city in the U.S. is so loud. There's cars honking all the time. There's always shit happening in here. There's the same amount of people, but it's just not loud. Yeah. Weird.

Well, it's like talking about Japan online now is just, it kind of, for some reason, it's just kind of become a battleground of, you know, before everyone loved to just praise Japan. And now it's almost like he's getting overpraised, and people are like pushing back. Yeah, it's become like two extremes now. You either get the super glazer or the super hater. You can't have like a middle ground.

Japan has become too woke. Yeah, it's become too woke. Oh, so woke to like Japan. Yeah. But you can't have like a middle ground on how you feel about Japan anymore. Like you, for some reason, even if you may not, you know, try to do it yourself, just the internet just pushes you to one side of the other and then a war happens. For whatever reason.

I don't know why. Because it's not happening with any other country. No. It's pretty awesome here though. I'm really excited and I've only been here for a few days. I haven't even done that much. I mean, for me specifically, because I live in Los Angeles, it's just so nice to be in a walkable city. Just to be able to leave my hotel and that's what I did yesterday. I just walked around all day and it was so great. And you can't really do that in Los Angeles. It's easy. It's fun of explore as well. Like exploring LA is kind of sad. You have to have a car. Yeah. Yeah. You can explore L.A., but you have to have a car. And even then you have to sit in traffic for a car to get anywhere. So where are you from in the U.S. originally? I'm from Maine originally.

I thought you were from. For some reason, I thought New Hampshire. I'm sorry. That's close. I think that's where Ludwig is. That is where Luddwigs from, yeah, yeah. Which is right next to Maine. It's below.

Yeah. Maine is the most northeastern state. Damn. Stephen King. Mm-hmm. Houston King. We have Stephen King. We have lobster.

Is the lobster as good as they say? Yeah, it's really good. But everyone is always like, did you eat so much lobster growing up? No, because that's what we're known for. So it's super expensive. Of course, really? But the seafood is really good there.

Okay, okay. It's very good. What else you got in Maine? Me? Not anymore. Not anymore. You don't live there anymore. I don't know.

Outdoor things. When did you go from Maine to L.A.? 2016. Uh, I was fresh, freshly 20. Oh, damn. Oh, damn. Because you moved here, when in 2016? Uh, I moved here in May of 2016.

Okay, and I moved here. Yeah, I moved here in November, not here. Uh, in November. Yeah, yeah. Because I remember it was roughly around the same time. Yeah, I remember that. Damn, so almost 10 years in LA then. Yeah.

Yeah, that's weird. Does that feel weird that you, been here for almost 10 years. But I mean, I used to visit so often here as well. But yes, it is also weird that I've been here for that long. Yeah. Yeah, it feels weird that I've been there for that. Do you still like it?

So I do love L.A. There's a lot of things about L.A. that I don't like. But I think that L.A. gets a bad rep. Like, you just have to find, everyone has the stereotypical way of thinking of LA is a horrible city and everyone is like out to fuck you over and there's no good people there. And it's like there's shitty people everywhere. Oh, you just have to find your group of people and similarly you have to find an area that you like.

I'm sure that there's places in Japan that you guys wouldn't want to live. Oh yeah, yeah, for sure. I'm not going to name them, but. Well, it's like, I'll name it. Well, people come to L.A. and they go to Hollywood and they're like, L.A. sucks. And it's like, yeah, Hollywood's terrible. I completely understand why you think that all of L.A. is bad if you've only seen Hollywood because Hollywood is really gross. It's super busy. And everyone is actively trying to scam you.

Yeah. Yeah. Totally. But I do like it. It's expensive, I guess, is the big thing. Just kind of hard to live there normally. It's so expensive to live in L.A. That's the worst thing for sure. But it's great because it's sunny all the time. Yeah, the weather is amazing. That's the one upside. Every L.A. resident says, and then they go on a five-hour long tangent on the, like, traffic or some shit like that. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I'm a stri-heat.

I don't know if I'll live there forever, but I do really like it a lot. And, like, I have a really good friend's and stuff. Well, why did you want to move out of Maine initially? Well, I moved out of Maine because... This is so funny story to tell. I moved out of Maine because Markiplier called me and it was like, hey, do you want to move to play?

and to help me make videos and so it's like can't really say no to that and so that's that is why I moved to LA yeah you're just like hey just fucking move yeah he called me and we didn't really even know each other at all at the time yeah right were like light acquaintances

and then a mutual friend of ours texted me and was like hey are you free to call real quick Mark wants to talk to you and it's like what the fuck it's like the king summoning you You have been summoned. You have been summoned. It felt like that. And then he was like, hey, do you want to, I need somebody to come out to L.A.

to help make videos and be in videos and stuff that knows YouTube. Do you want to move here? Right. And I was working at a barbecue place. And I was like, man, I don't know, man. This barbecue thing is working out really well. Well, sure at this time you hadn't done any work with him at that point. No, we had just met each other a few times.

And we had a few mutual friends. Right. But I've been doing YouTube for... A long time, right? Yeah, I'd been doing YouTube at that point for like five years. Oh, wow. Like four or five years, and nothing had like really popped off yet. And so I think he wanted somebody to help him that knew how to make videos, but was a failure thus far. I mean, that's just a lot of YouTuber content producers.

Well, I mean, it's... Because success is so weird. I mean, it's a measure of timing, opportunity, lock. And I mean, yeah, it's, I feel like when you say it's a failure, it's like, no, that's not how to look at it. No, no, no, I know what you mean that. Yeah. Yeah, he was like, I want somebody to help me who isn't like doing this for a living on their own. Yeah, yeah.

Doesn't already have their own career. Yeah. Yeah, right. And then, yeah. That's crazy. He was just like, yeah, just come out to L.A. Yeah, it was. It was.

Well, I remember I was in a Skype call with you when it happened. God, Skype. And that's really how you date it. That's how I date it. Like, we're in a Skype. I do miss Skype. I miss Skype. Did you guys ever, I feel like we probably did this a few times.

I, and I don't ever do this on Discord, I could, but I miss being on Skype with somebody. And you're both editing your videos separately and not talking, but you're both just there on Skype. Yeah. We used to do that quite all me, yeah. There would be like six of us in this call and no one's all face cams on, no one's talking. No one's talking. No one's talking. And everyone is just editing their own video.

We just didn't want to be alone. It was the best. I remember that. What was the longest call, Skype call you guys have ever been on? Oh my God. Because like if there was calls like that, there would literally be some calls where we would just get in a conversation

and then we'd all start editing our own videos. And then by the time everyone was kind of done, we were just like, should we record another video? Yeah. And it would just keep going. Like, there would be like seven, eight,

nine hour calls sometimes. Yeah, it's because we were young, boys. It was. We were young. We were nothing else going on. We were excited and we had nothing to do. Yeah, totally. I think I want this, at one point,

I had like a Skype call that lasted like five days to a week or something like that. Because, okay, it was, it was the same kind of like, you know, same kind of like thing you were guys going through. We were just sitting in a cool. And then because our group was so big, there would be people jumping in, people jumping out. And then it got past like the 24 hour mark and we were like, Shit, how long should we make this call last? Basically got to a point where we're just like, shit,

well, we can't let this end now. It's gone on this long. Let's see how far we're gonna be a record or something. I was confused for a second when you asked that question. I was like, I have no idea how long the longest Skype call I've been on. You Skype people for a week? Bro. This is cool memory.

Yeah, it's called being unemployed. Yeah, you get a lot of shit down. Yeah, he's called being young. and unemployed, man. Bro. The good old days. Does Skype still exist? No.

I shut down last year. That's so sad. Like forced everyone to go to Teams. Because I was Skyping my parents until last year. Because my parents learned Skype like 10 years ago and they're like, this is it. I'm only using Skype. And then teams forced them. This is all that's ever going to exist.

Yeah. Did, wait, so did all of the conversations and stuff migrate over to teams? Yeah. So if you did talk to someone? like 12 years ago, some of them are there, but for some reason, some of them got, like, because I, I've wanted the same thing. I was like, huh? I was, I talked to you like 10 years ago. I wonder if that's still there. And like, some things would be there, but not all of them. So I don't know if something, I don't know.

But yeah. Real question is, is Emerson Messenger still a thing? I don't think so. I do. I hope it's not. I think it's completely gone. You know, I don't want, I don't want my conversations. I want my cringy 15-year-old message white from the internet. Oh, and I don't like, over-tending. I want that shit wiped. That's way longer ago than I thought. I thought that MSN stopped like five years ago. What was the last time you heard anyone using MSN?

I don't know. I stopped using it when Skype got introduced. Yeah, it's probably some people watching this right now that have no idea what the fuck MSN is. I think that's probably most people don't know. Yeah. It's scary. Oh, man.

Makes me feel old. How old you? 29. Oh, shit. Are you having the thing where... Yeah. Were you the baby of the group for a really long time and now you're starting to feel old? Yeah, I was always the youngest and all the like, especially creative groups.

I was always the youngest one. And so now I'm meeting people who are like, I'm 21. I'm like, that's disgusting. Leave me alone. And I realized... Yeah, and I realize people are probably looking at me the way I probably used to look at some other people who are maybe in the space at the time when I came into it. You're like, what the fuck?

And like, maybe they've been doing it for a while and they've got like a history or whatever and you're like, that's so cool. They've been doing it for a while. I hope I can get to that point. You're like, fuck, that's me. But it doesn't feel good. I know.

I feel. How old are you? 31. How old are you? 35. I fucking fell that one. You must have come into it. You must have felt like, damn.

You know, I'm like kind of, I'm always the young, guy and then obviously you've been doing so much stuff with yourself and with Mark as well. Now obviously people must look up to you. Now I'm chopped and unc. You're chopped on. Chopped on. That must be crazy. If you're hunk, what the fuck am I?

I know. It's so crazy. I love it when people are like, you were born in the 1900s? It's nuts. Yeah. I am starting to feel a little older. I like I know that we're all still young, but it is weird seeing. Well, we're like,

like old in YouTube terms. Yeah. No, we're dinosaurs. Yeah. YouTube terms. Because how long have each of you been doing YouTube for? Don't do this to me right now. I started in 2013. 2007. 2007. Whoa. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my god. I was in fourth grade. I used to watch his videos. Like yeah. Yeah. He's like, his was like the first video is like, They let you down when you met him. I was like, this guy's chills, fuck. I have viewers now that are younger than my YouTube channel. That's so scary.

I know, right? I know. That's fucked up. I'm doing it like 11. So I'm like the, but like, 11's crazy for YouTube as well. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But then I'm around these guys and I'm like, ah, man.

Well, I've only been doing it for what, a year longer than you, maybe? Yeah, but it's still more impressive. I do obviously have been doing it for how, Since 2012. Oh my God. Damn. Beat him by year, too. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah. So he's on. And he fell off. Which is weird because, is it next year? No, I guess it's two years from now. Once my channel turns 15, because I started when I was 15, every day that goes by will be me doing YouTube longer than I haven't been. Yeah. Which that's like, that I think will be the weird point of, oh, this is just a majority of my life.

A bad. Yeah. Yeah. It freaks me out a little bit. Well, I felt this way with Japan. It was like, I've realized, oh, I've spent most of my adult life in this country. And maybe you feel the same with L.A. You're like, getting to that point, you're like, I'm from Maine, and I know all this stuff,

but I'm becoming so... Yeah. I've been in Los Angeles so long that maybe at what point am I more of that than, you know? I think it's... It's not even saying that I've been in L.A. for 10 years. it's saying that I've been in L.A. for a decade feels way longer. And I'm like, oh, you got a whole ass Roman numeral for you.

Yeah. It's odd. Time. It just keeps going. We're all going to die. We're all going to die. Are you guys afraid of dying? No, no. Madwin.

You're afraid of dying? Skill issue. I'm not going to die. Just don't die. Yeah. It's easy. Just don't die. I mean, it didn't this, you did a whole thing about not dying, Eunice, Anas, right?

That's like, no, I did the whole thing about dying. Yeah, about dying, right? Like, yeah. Yeah. How was that lie? Hard. Wait, what year was that again? Because 2019, 2020.

So how did this, okay. So, so people, yeah. So obviously, isn't that crazy? We're reaching the year and now. People might not even know what it is. Yeah. And like, people probably wrote it very fondly. So maybe, because you would just explain first how it came about what the project

was and what other than that be. Yeah. Okay. So I hit up Mark and I was like, I don't even remember how this conversation started. I think I was just like, hey, because this was kind of before everybody had a second channel. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, hey, I'm thinking about making another channel to just post bullshit on. Should I just post bullshit on my normal YouTube channel or should I make a second one? He was like, I've been thinking about this for a while. I'm thinking about the idea of a YouTube channel where you do it for a year and then you delete everything. And I was like, whoa, that sounds really cool. And then he was like, yeah, you want to do it?

And I was like, yeah, sure. And that's literally how it happened at Buffalo Wild Wings. We went to Buffalo Wild Wings. We're all the good. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. We were just like, okay, yeah, let's make videos every day for a year.

And then we'll delete everything and delete the channel. And that'll be that. And it was supposed to be like every video could be anything because we were doing shit every day. So there was no standard. But then it very quickly became like the standards are way higher for that channel than anything else. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it blew up. Yeah. It was weird. Well, yeah. It was also because the concept was just never done. Yeah. I think there's always that that anticipation of like they weren't delete it. Yeah. This is successful to delete it. Yeah. I think that was like the really cool thing. the end because I had so many friends being like, hey, you guys aren't actually going to delete it, right? And I was like, no, that's the whole point. That's the whole thing. Yeah, it was really weird to delete it because like for me, Mark and Amy, like, we sat on the live stream and we ended the stream and we like celebrated because we had finally done the thing. But for everybody else, it was just the stream

ends and then the channel disappeared. There was no like celebration or anything. It was just like, oh, all right, I guess that's it. I guess that's it. I'm going to find a new channel now. Was there ever a moment where you guys are like, should we keep some of them up? Or was it?

No. You were all pretty strong fast in there. Yeah. And like, it was so much work. Like, looking back on it, I don't really know how we did that. But there wasn't really a moment where we thought should we keep anything up. Because

it would just kind of defeat the purpose. From the beginning, the three of us were like very gung-ho about making sure everything goes as planned. Was there ever a conversation about, so what do we do after? You know? Rest.

Yeah, that must have been fucking crazy to commit to that for a year. Yeah, like it was, but then the way that it panned out was kind of perfect because of COVID because the whole message of the channel was like the time that you have is the time that you have. So you need to make the most of that time. And then COVID happened.

And we had all these plans for all these big videos and then suddenly we could do it. Which was also a really weird thing to have COVID happen and have this channel with branding about death while a pandemic is happening. that was like a little weird but yeah we just we just did it and I think it happened at like the perfect time it was a really cool thing I don't know if I'd have the

the heart to work so hard for so long and take it down because they weren't like simple vlogs like they were like properly planned out like topical look if I was in a piss sauna which I think I remember watching this you saunered your own piss

I would want that up. I want the golden nose. I did do that. I did. I love how you're like, they were like proper, really good. I was like,

you're misremembering some of the other. Of piss. Yeah, we did do that. That was, see, okay. It was like, it was such a great thing,

creativity-wise, because we had the excuse that we could make anything. Because you don't know. So, like, one of my favorite titles is just called the human mop and all the videos, it's such a stupid video but the whole video was me

I bought a bunch of mob heads at Home Depot and then I duct tape them to Mark and then he just like tried to clean his floor was so dumb. It was awesome. We got away with it somehow. Like, people watched it. I mean, you're allowed to have some ideas that maybe also like,

they phone this one in. That was kind of like... It's like 265. the lockdown COVID era where we weren't able to make videos in person. Most of those videos were like, yeah, we just kind of really did as much as we could, like both at our own desks and stuff. You weren't even going to delete it originally. You're like, we should delete this.

Yeah. Which things are this fucking much. Now I feel fine about deleting. Now I feel okay. Dude, do you have any videos that you made that you are glad and are deleted? Any ones that you regretted making? There's none that I regret making, shockingly, because there's videos where we sat in a piss on it. You probably find the joy or charm in any of these, like, you know, in every struggle, there's always a fun memory that you can always be like that was really fun.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't think there's any ones that I'm really glad are deleted. But we did, so the five-year anniversary was. Yeah, I think I saw it recently. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And then we were, we were just like.

like filming some stuff for it and we went on Dropbox and we found the raw file so we found, I knew that we had every video exported and it's still up on our server but we also have all of the raw footage for everything and then

Mark was like, what if technically it's not the same video if we take all these videos and we re-edit them because we have all the source footage, what if? And I was like man,

maybe in 20 years re-edit all of the stuff but yeah it was cool it was fun I remember that live stream the initial one the uh was insane watching it like the reaction

it's like kind of the moment of like I think I shouldn't do this yeah it was really fun to watch was like because I knew that just from looking at the numbers of the channel

I was like wow this channel got way bigger than we thought but I didn't think that that stream was gonna be as big as it was. Like, because how many subs did Eunice Anus end up having before it was gone?

We had, we ended with like, probably close to five. It was over four. It was close to five. Jesus. And then the ending live stream, because we were talking about it beforehand and we were like, I don't know, we might have like 100,000 people there. Like, that would be so crazy if there was 100,000.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There was 250,000 people waiting for the stream. and then it capped at 1.7 million. Holy shit. That's insane. I mean, YouTube as well,

once you kind of reach a certain mass of viewers, it's just on everyone's front page. It is pushing it to everyone. It's like, you need to watch this. Yeah. It was wild. And like,

seeing that, and then this was back when Twitter was Twitter and it was working normally, and it's not like, it's not the trending stuff like GROC. Yeah. It was actually like a good place for fandom too.

Yeah. It was a great, like you actually one of the, keep up with channels. It was great as like a like off when videos aren't up. Yeah. For actually discussing and seeing people keep up with them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was crazy though because the day

of the live stream, every single thing on the trending page was on us. It was really weird. Damn. It was really, really, really weird. Yeah. That was a weird time in life. And then we deleted it. And it was gone. Oh, shit. The coolest thing about deleting

it though was that it it was like taking somebody off life support. Okay. Bear with me for a moment. Bear with me for a moment. He was like, I killed her, man. I watched the eyes. So you could see the life be drained away.

It was really weird because I thought we pressed delete and then it's just suddenly gone. But because you're deleting 365 videos. Well, we had 367 because there was some... There was like a few things where we did double uploads for some reason, I can't remember. Yeah.

You didn't give yourself enough work. Yeah, we didn't give ourselves enough work. We had to go over. But because you're deleting all of that stuff, it doesn't just disappear. So literally like... Oh, there's like a progress ball? Yeah.

So if you were watching the channel, you didn't even have to refresh. It would just start happening. You would see titles disappear first. So a video would have the title and the thumbnail the title would just be gone suddenly and then the thumbnail would disappear and it would just be a gray thumbnail

and then the video would go. So it just slowly over the course of like five to ten minutes everything faded away. It was really cool. It was really, really weird. Oh, damn. I remember as well there was quite the battle afterwards to keep the videos down because people kept trying

to re-upload them. Yeah, there was a lot of re-uploads. The best re-uploads were people were re-uploading them to Pornhub. It was just really funny. It's so awesome. They can't get me here. Yeah, we had, like, in the beginning, we were like,

nobody re-uploaded anything that is the antithesis of the whole thing. But now it's kind of fun seeing the compilations and stuff. Right, right. Yeah. The compilations are a little bit of, like... It's like a vague memory of... Yeah, yeah. It's like the proof that it existed at one point, right?

Yeah. Yeah. But there are definitely some videos where I'm like, Yeah, that was not that it was embarrassing or we said something we shouldn't have, but it was like, yeah, this is kind of a shit video. Yeah. It's not, I don't want this to be a reflection of me. Yeah. Let's not bring this one. This is not my finest work. So, so when you delete a channel. Yeah. That last live stream, where did the revenue for that? It doesn't have enough time to like register or did you ask this question on purpose? because of what we talked. So we talked about this.

We just did for the five-year anniversary. We talked about this for the very first time. Because every year we've done an anniversary video. And then for five years, we did a live stream. And then we were like, hey, we're not really going to do the anniversary videos anymore. Maybe we'll do something at 10 years. But we talked about that for the very first time. So we deleted our channel on the 13th of November.

Yep. And so we deleted it. And then we had close to a billion views that month. We went to YouTube after we deleted the channel. And I don't really know why we didn't go back and fight this. They were like, yeah, sorry, because you didn't end the month. You won't get paid. I was going to ask you.

I was like, I just assumed you privated all the videos. No. Yeah, we actually deleted it. Oh, no. And that's a billion long-form views, not short-form views. Yeah. Yeah, this was before shorts were a thing. Yeah.

That's a lot of money. Yeah, and they just didn't pay us. We just never got paid. Holy shit. Which is awesome. Really cool. That's like in the range of like, wouldn't that be like a million dollars? Yeah.

Millions of dollars? Yep. Oh, no. Yep. And YouTube was just like, yeah, sorry. nothing we can do. You didn't finish up in my fucking love to. Here's the thing about it because...

The ads played. Somebody, YouTube, got that money. Yeah. The ads played on those videos. It was really fucked up. So I think the reason that it happened was because during this time, and I didn't really know this, but Mark, this was back when YouTube Originals was a thing. And so Mark was supposed to be doing a show with YouTube Originals.

and they were supposed to be in production, but they weren't in production because COVID was happening. But YouTube kept going to Mark being like, we really want this to be in production. And Mark was like, we can't. What the fuck you want you got about it? Like, we can't go into production on stuff. So I think,

talked to Mark about it and he was saying that YouTube kind of, it feels like they did this out of retaliation because they were mad at him for not doing the YouTube original show. that he was supposed to do. But I don't think that's... What a fucking petty thing to do. Fair. Yeah.

Well, there's petty and then there's... And maybe illegal. Yeah. Yeah. Slightly illegal. I don't know. Perhaps. Because again, the ads played.

Yeah. The money's somewhere. The money's somewhere. It's like, oh sweet, free $1 million. Yeah. That's crazy. But yeah, no, we did actually delete it. We ended the stream.

Like, the countdown timer happened. It hit zero. Yeah. cut to a black screen and then we ended the stream because you can't actually delete a stream while it's so you might be able to but the process of deleting a channel takes like 10 minutes yeah there's like 45 two-step verifications that you have to do like there's which i guess is a good thing yeah yeah yeah it takes a really long time to delete a channel um but yeah we actually delete it's crazy is that like even when you delete it youtube still has like

They have these like weird like copies just in case something. Yeah. Yeah. So the ads, I feel like, so. Some weird shit definitely happened, man. So that's another weird thing. When you delete a channel, you have 30 days. Yeah.

Yeah. Just go back and be like, hey, sorry, I take it back. I'm joking. I'm just joking. So that is even more of a thing where it's like, it's not like the data is gone. It's still there. Yeah. Why did this happen?

Yeah, it's great. It's whatever. Damn. I don't know if it's a one-em- If I lost that money, would not be a one-em- It would not be a whatever. Again, I don't know

why we didn't do anything like in the moment. Yeah. Looking back, I'm like, why didn't we go back? So much time has passed that it's like, whatever.

Let me, I mean, yeah, I guess you can't really be upset about it now. Yeah. It's whatever. It is whatever. I'm upset for you. I just found this out. Yeah.

upset for you. Yeah. But maybe in five years I would get over it for you. It was really fun talking about it on that stream though

because we were like it was the first time that we ever talked about it publicly and we were like should we talk about this because it feels like

Eunison on us was wildly wildly successful so it like feels kind of ungrateful to be like they didn't pay us for the last

yeah yeah if you went on Twitter like 30 days later yeah hey guys can you pay us

until you guys were dead I'm not team usually millions of dollars. Can we get that pay, please? I mean, you definitely could have complained at the time and it probably would have been big enough news where it would have got sorted. But at the same time, does that what you wanted it to be about? Exactly. It feels like a little, it feels a little, I mean, yeah, I guess it kind of feels petty, but it just didn't feel like the right thing to be like, hey guys. Yeah. And you're also so successful in so many other avenues as well

despite that. So I feel like, yeah, like you said, it would probably leave a, some people's mouths. Yeah. But it was cool. It was fun time. But a cool project. I mean, do you personally feel like it's one of the coolest things you've done? Because I'd be like looking at it from a creature, it's so... It's really aggressive to have the vision to do that. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. I think that like, I definitely think that it is the proudest thing that I've ever been a part of. Like, I have... There's a lot of feelings in my head when I think about it. Because what I miss most about it is making stuff with Amy and Mark every day

and like the collaborative effort that was put into that channel I think back on it and I'm like wow that was a lot of really hard work but it was really really really fun and it felt really challenging in a really great way and it felt just like

I've never been more creatively fulfilled than doing Eunisomas I bet, yeah. So, yeah. But you also did a... Went on tour. Yeah, tour. Yeah.

Yeah. Every day they would tell us about how amazing your show was. Yeah. I was sad that we couldn't watch it. Yeah. It was shit. No, I had so much fun on tour. Did you guys like touring?

I love touring. Oh, Joey, Joey. Yeah, yeah. I look back on it fondly, but you know, when you're there, I think it's a tough thing at times. at times. Yeah. What was that process like for you guys as far as making the show?

Dude. So about that. Funny you ask. Because yours was like a properly like, you know, scripted, structured show, right? At least from my understanding of your show. For us, it was like, okay, let's do a US tour.

We got all of these cities. We've got all these locations in these days. Sweet. now let's make the show. So we didn't make the show until like a week before. Yeah. Until a week before? A week before we flew off.

We did like a brainstorming session of like, okay, let's kind of make it like this, this and this, but we weren't confident enough to just do it. So I think it was like two or three days before we started the tour.

In LA, we got like a small group of like friends and staff and stuff. And we did like a tent show. Good kid watched the show. Oh yeah. Aaron was there. Wait, so did you guys not, Did you guys not do a tester show?

No. No. No. Oh, okay. We were dumb. I don't think we, I don't know why we thought we could do it. Yeah, we did, we did like a beta version of the show in front of like 20 people in LA and then we're like, yeah, that's good. And we're like, okay. All right. Time to go.

Time to go do that in 26 cities. If you say so. But you guys had a massively successful tour. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Did you guys do Australia and Europe also?

We did Europe. Yeah. We did Europe. We did Europe. We just hate a show. No, no, no. It's not that. I wanted to do it, but

like we did a... You guys hate Australia. That's why. Yes. I love Australia. Yeah, we did one show in Australia. Yeah, we did one in Australia. Yeah, we did one in Australia.

Yeah. Where'd you do it? In Melbourne, I think. Is that where you're from? I'm from Sydney. You do a hometown show. I don't know. Why didn't you do it at the opera house?

Would that feel really bad, do you think? What? Do you show at the opera house? But doing your show at the opera house, do you think that you would feel weird? Okay, this, okay, this feels so bad coming out of my house. It's not like I thought that you're, I saw your show and it was very fun.

Oh, thank you. But thinking about if I did my show at a place like that that has so much history and I'm like making jokes about dicks and stuff, I'd be like, oh man. I'm sure they've had acts that are like, you know. I mean, they, They do do like comedy shows at the Opera House. So it's not far-fetched to say, yeah.

I mean, they're proper comedians. We're not proper comedians. Yeah, I mean, I think the most legendary venue we went to was the Hammersmith Apollo. Yeah, the Apollo in London, which is so cool. That was crazy. That was like 3,000 seat of venue. Yeah, intimidating.

It's so cool because like the second floor of the Apollo, there's just this like small little museum of just all of the past acts that have been there. And it's all like the biggest like rock artists you could ever possibly think of it, just all there. And it's like, oh, so you guys had like all these amazing historical rock bands, and now you're going to have trash taste talking about dicks for an hour. Hell yeah.

That's so cool, though. That's awesome. Wait, so you had a week until the show. Yeah. Yeah. Until we flew off to L.A. to tell the showrunners what our show was going to be. And then we made the show a week before. And then we just did a test show.

And then we had our first show like a few days after, I think. Yeah, we had our first LA show. I mean, I think I liked it at least because it helped me get my stage skills a lot better, which I think transit is a lot to YouTube and camera in general, I think. Oh, totally. But it was definitely a challenge. Wait, so did I see the first show then? I think you did.

Because we did two LA shows. Okay. Yeah, we did one at the very beginning of the tour because the L.A. show that we had planned for got sold out almost immediately. So they were like, let's do another LA. Was it was the venue that you were in like a very bright two floor? Yeah. Yeah, it was the first one. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. You went to the very first trash day show. Thank you. You're a real one. That was a week after its conception. What was your show like? Yeah. How much prep did that take? Yeah. Um, so I kind of like did a similar thing to what you guys did. Oh, really? In the sense of

I really wanted to tour for a really long time and then I kept kind of coming up with shows and then abandoning them and so we booked I did a tester show but we booked the tester show before I had a show at all so I like forced myself into doing it

it was kind of like a it wasn't like stand-upy there were comedy aspects of it but there was also like music stuff it. And it was just about my relationship with my audience. I talked about drinking piss. Oh.

That was a big component of it. It was amazing. I remember Sarah who's on Arturo and she said that... Yeah, she's very sweet. And I remember she said that, like, yeah, it made her, like, tear up. And I was like, damn, well, she could have watched the show. Yeah.

I would have loved to have been able to watch it. I'm sad. Well, never doing it again. Fuck, man. Do a show in Tokyo. The game Grumps did it? You could do it. That would be sick.

That would be sick. Maybe I would, like, would you guys go on tour again. I would. Okay. Joey seems this side of the table really likes to- We spoke by this. We just don't have a show. There's not a show we're passionate about.

There's nothing I want to do. Yeah. I just, for me, it was like living on that bus for like six weeks. At the end, I was like, I can't do this again. And then I did it again. And I was like, okay, the first few shows are fun. And then I was just like, okay, now it's done. Then now it's done, done.

Because our Europe tour was like less than half the length of our US tour. Yeah. I also like enjoy being alone. But I have a hard time verbalizing that when I'm around people. Yeah. And I don't know how to like, because I, and I don't think anyone ever takes it personally when you tell them. No.

But then I beat myself up. And I will just go alone. I'll be like, I'm going, guys. Let me go my room and chill all day. Yeah. But then I still feel bad about it. And I beat myself up. So I have a really hard time kind of doing that.

And you're all so close when you're on the tour bus. I think that was an aspect I struggled with. That is a tough thing where it's like the most privacy you get is when you're taking a shit. Yeah. You don't get much privacy. Or you're in like a hotel room or something, right? Yeah. Yeah.

For me it's sunlight. You know, you wake up on the tour bus. It's like blacked out curtains. Blackout windows. And then you go off and then go to a green room, which doesn't have windows. And then you basically do like your sound check. you're, and then you're just waiting around, I guess, either on the bus or the green room until your show, and maybe you'll, you know, go have lunch or something. And that's basically, yeah. I think, like,

we're all so fortunate to be able to do what we do in the fact that any of us that are able to go on tour is crazy. But, like, the way that people glamorize tour life and touring and stuff is way, they make it seem way, cooler than it actually is on the side of like, you're going to all of these venues and stuff and it's like, yeah, you're just like in a room in the back. Yeah. Like the venue itself, where the stage is and where the audience is beautiful. Backstage at most of these places

is really shriekid. It's like, rickety. It's like, the bathrooms are always really gross. Then you're like, you have to do laundry, right? Yeah. And it's this constant fucking dance of like, who's doing laundry? Or you're doing laundry? And then they forgot. to put it in the dryer. And then you're like, fuck sake, man.

I just wanted to do my lawn. God damn. It's a really cool experience, but it's not like glamorous. No, no, no, no. But, yeah, and then we, I remember,

because we were, when we were touring, we expect to do a good kid a lot. And they're really talented. And they would do it but they would do it out of like a sprinter van. Yeah. Like the old school.

Yeah. They'd be like, yeah, we'd all just kind of crush in this van and sleep in it. I was like, fuck me. Yeah.

That's not very rock and roll. But I guess it is. It's the most... That's the most... Rocker all that's sound very fucking comfortable. I think I want to go, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna get... Fuck this. Did you guys like sleeping on the bus?

I love sleeping on the bus. Yeah, I actually got the best sleep my life in the bus. Yeah, same. It's... You just get rocked to sleep every night. Yeah. Also, thank God, American roads are just straight for so long. There's like no... You don't realize how little turns you do.

Yeah. It's just straight. You're not like in the mountains, like going through these mountainous roads or anything. Yeah. It's, it's truly built for touring. Yeah. It's like perfectly built. And then was one time, where we had a show in Seattle,

and we were just like, fuck it, I'm just gonna fly to Seattle and skip two days of traveling and hang out in Seattle. Yeah. And that was really nice too. What did you guys think of the Midwest in America?

I mean, I'm biased because I'm married to a Midwestern girl. This is like a question and an argument that Americans have. And when I talk to, like, our friend Pete, who's from Kansas, is Kansas Midwest? Do you consider that?

It is, that's pretty Midwest. It is, I would... I feel like when a lot of people talk to about Midwest, They are thinking of the Chicago, Minnesota, Ohio, Indiana, kind of that circle of Michigan, not including the Kansas. Right on the edge of the Midwest. I feel like some people include it. I think technically it is, but when I talk to some people, I don't include it.

Yeah, it's like right on the line of Midwest and South. Yeah. Yeah. But I like like Minnesota. I like Michigan, all these places that they're really fun. I think that every place, obviously, like we were talking about before. has great little pockets. But it is crazy going on tour

and being in Middle America and going to a new venue every day and being like, weren't we just here? So many towns look exactly the same. Oh, dude. I mean, we started in the Midwest on our tour. Like, we started in Minnesota and went to like, you know,

we did like the Chicago show and the Ohio show and stuff like that. And yeah, those first, until basically we got to New York, I'm just like, am I like, is this like Groundhog Day? Like this looks exactly the same. The New York one was crazy

because the bus driver It's like Times Square What venue do you remember? We don't remember The one of the same The one where they do The Lion King shows all the time That's sick

Yeah I did that wasn't it Yeah I think it was No I think it's right next to it Was it next to it? Yeah Because I think our stage is quite small I remember being

It was in a basement Was yours in a basement? It might have been So I did It was I can't remember It had two names I don't remember

which one it currently goes by. It was either the palladium or the PlayStation Theater. Palladium. I think Palladium. It was like kind of basement. It was trippy. I remember because we went in the green room and it was like this really dimly lit, dark room. It was like a bar. Everything was so weird. It was like we were in a city underneath New York

in this giant basement complex. And then you go outside and it's Times Square and you're like, this is weird. Yeah. Was your New York show really rowdy? Oh, yeah. Oh my God. Yeah. It was one of the most rowdy. Yeah. All I remember from the New York show is that at one point, the crowd just wouldn't stop chanting rats.

Yeah, I remember that. It's like rats, rats, rats, rats. They got waringly passionate about rats. The New York show was one of my favorites. Yeah, it was great energy. And then just like, I remember just the feeling of walking out of that show. And, you know, there'd be like a couple of people maybe like outside of the bus. And just, it was such a weird feeling of this bus just slowly.

coming out of the venue parking lot and into Times Square. Yeah. And I'm just like, what the fuck is my life right now? He like parked the bus in like Times Square. Like on the street. Like, and I was like, this is ridiculous. And I asked the guy, so he, this guy never spoke at all. And I try to occasionally have conversations with him.

But it's like talking to that one uncle that you had. He was like, he'll give you a laugh at best, but he will never engage with you. I mean, like, how are you doing this? How are you driving? And he goes, the day. That's so cold. Bro was smashing back like nine Red Bulls a day as well. He was.

He was. Dude, the bus driver's on tours, really the goats. Yeah. It's so crazy. Just driving through the night and they sleep through the day. And they're always fixing the bus.

I feel like every morning I'd see him tinkering with something. And I'm like, whoa. Sure. Did you never help? Let me help out of you. Hey, so I put the Red Bull in the engine. That's where you wanted it, right?

That was cool, though. I enjoyed it. as an experience, but it's just definitely not something I'm eager to jump into. It was a cool once in a lifetime. We did twice in a lifetime. Europe was such a different vibe. Yeah, yeah. I enjoyed touring Europe a lot because, you know, unlike a lot of American cities, every city you went to in Europe did feel vastly different from the previous city. But also, I think the main issue when we were in America, sometimes we were beat in, like,

when we were in Philadelphia, we were so far out on the outskirts of Philadelphia, that getting into Philadelphia was like an hour. And at that point, it's like, no one wants to go into town because our show's in three hours or four hours. And it's like those were the days that it was like traveling blows because we just couldn't go into the cities. But in Europe, all the venues are in the city. Yeah. So you'd always be like, oh, I'm in, I'm in Oslo. I'm going to go 10 minute walk to this.

So, so. Yeah. Oh, it was cool. I mean, I remember like, you know, when we did the Cleveland Ohio show. Yeah. Very similar to Oslo. Yeah. Very much.

Very similar. Yeah. And I remember- Ski-RAM. I remember I woke up and it's like, oh, okay, we're here. And I walk outside and I'm like, I was like, is this like a cod zombies map?

Like, it's, where's the venue? What shocked me was how many, how many buildings had like boarded up windows? Yeah. Everything had a boarded up window. I was like, this is sad. And you know what was the saddest part? It was my fucking birthday.

Oh. I celebrated my birthday in Cleveland, Ohio, of all places. Shout out Cleveland. I'm so glad that that happened, honestly. Dude. What year was it? As in, sorry, as in how old were you turning?

28, I think. Yeah. Yeah, it's not like you were 25 or like turning 30. And you know what, Joey, you're always going to remember that birthday now. Yeah. I got pied in the face. Yeah. In front of like a thousand people in a higher.

What do you do for your 27th birthday, Joey? I don't know. Exactly. Exactly. He doesn't know. Yeah. You're right. Probably got shit face somewhere, you know.

And you know what? You will always remember your 28th birthday being. celebrated in Cleveland, Ohio. Oh, yeah, for sure. That is a special birthday. I'm grateful. Joey doesn't care about you. I also hated there when we were, you know,

we would announce the tickets and stuff and they'd be like, you know, are the shows and sound too well? You gotta push it. And I'm like, fuck, fuck, I don't know. Like stressful, the idea of like having to push the show and sell it. Yeah. Because they, you know, you kind of have to,

your whole thing becomes about the tour, even before you're on the tour. It's like, the next guys, guys, guys, you gotta buy these tickets, buy these tickets, buy these tickets. And you're like, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. I don't want to, like, have to promote this and not. I don't want to have to, like, shove it down people's throats. Yeah.

Yeah, that was a really hard thing for me, too, where I felt like I was being this weird shill for myself. Yeah. Where I was just, and, like, some people did comment about it being annoyed that I was putting like a tour promo before every video. Yeah, because the people who already said they're not going to see it are like, I don't want to see this. Exactly.

It's not like a T-shirt that I can buy it anywhere in the world. Yeah. But I think it's like, it is an important thing to be like, hey, made it. a thing that I'm really excited about. Please come. But yeah, some people got really upset. The other thing that was really annoying to me was

and I do understand but people being like, you're going to this city and this city and this city. Why aren't you coming here? And it's like, I didn't make the list. Like, I'm not the one that's choosing the cities. Yeah, we did a Europe tour and we only went to like Western Europe really and people were like, that's not a Europe tour.

Yeah. I was like, yeah, technically it's not. But, you know, these tour companies, they often just take your analytics from YouTube and I like, here's where you're probably going to sell. And the truth is, even the cities that they choose, you don't always sell out. It might even be like 60% capacity or 50. Totally. Yeah. Like less. And it's just like normal tour routing where it's like this is kind of just where everybody is the easiest like line to go through. Yeah. Because it's like proven that people will come to these specific places. Totally. What were some of your favorite cities to tour in? Um, I really,

loved going to New York for sure. That was really cool. The crowd there was really, really, really rowdy. A little overly rowdy. There were parts of the show where I had to, and I think that some people in the audience thought I was joking where I'd be like, hey guys, please stop talking.

And they would just continue to yell. And I'm like, okay, I understand that you're excited and you like want to participate. But also, at the same time, if you're just yelling the whole time, then I can't do anything. New Yorker's really fun. I really liked Chicago a lot. That was where I did the first show. Yeah.

Or the Tessor show was there. Chicago is just like one of my favorite cities in America. We started in Chicago. I love Chicago. No, we started in Minnesota. Then we went to Chicago. Yeah. I guess that's how it best routes because you don't drive over that Montana.

I started in Toronto. That was the first show. Well, Toronto is cool. Yeah, we did a Toronto show. I did like Canada bookends. So I started in Toronto and then ended in Vancouver. I think we were initially going to do. Yeah, we were going to do Vancouver. Sorry, the people of Vancouver, but we ended up, I think we were like, this is one too many shows. Because I think they wanted us to do like 33. Yeah. And we cut it down to like 25.

Yeah, five, six. It was just like, it was like the two months felt really daunting and the month and a half felt like, I think I can manage this. And I'm glad we did a month and a half because That last show, I remember being tired. And that was like, and I remember someone came after me. Someone came after me. Someone came after me. Someone came after me. Was like, yeah, you were yawning a lot.

You bet you can't wait to go home. And I was like, no, I don't want you to think that I was fucking bored or tired doing it. But I was tired because I've done fucking 26 shows in 30 fucking days. Yeah. It's a lot. It's very tiring. Did you guys ever go to Colorado? Yes, we did.

I flooded my hotel room. Oh. Yeah. Tell me about that. Well, I was playing TFT and I left the bath running and I was about to hit Diamond and I just, I was completely zoned out and I just let the bath over run. I literally hit Diamond and I was like, fuck yes. And then when I jumped up, I saw my carpet was black and I was like, shit. So I immediately started fucking getting toilet paper, fucking useless towels trying to pat it down. Then I heard that. And then they were like, sir, is everything okay? I was like, no. And then they had to get me like another room. And then I was like, are we chill? Do I have to pay for anything? They were like, no, it's fine.

You got lucky there. Yeah, I got hell lucky. They were like, you've ruined not only your room, the room below you. I was like, oh, sorry. Because of a TFT match. Because of a TFT match. Unbelievable. Yeah.

So I have scary memories of that. of Colorado. That one moment where you see the flood and you're like, that like instant panic, you're like, yeah. But then we went out for food and it's pretty good, actually. Yeah. But I like Colorado as a city. It was a fun city.

When I was in Colorado, someone on my tour, I was on stage. And then someone, one of their friends was in the audience and texted her and was like, hey, just want to let you know that I can see Ethan doing Whippets side stage. And she was like, no, he has like the little oxygen thing because the air's super thin and like when you go in to

like super high elevation and you're just there for a day, your body can't adjust that quickly. So I was like running out of breath. So they had these like little oxygen thing. So I would go side stage like in between bits and just like take a hit of oxygen. But they thought that I was doing

whipits. She just So funny. Like he can't wait until a while to the show. I know. And then there was another city where I was super congested and there was, they had just like nasal spray side stage and the same thing happened where someone

thought that I was doing coke. They just did show. They just didn't like, but I'm ready. God, this flow nays has got me with a fucked up. I'm really, really ready to go. How was it then after your tour then going back to

doing YouTube? Do you feel different? Was it? Yeah, I definitely, like, felt a little sad because I really loved touring a lot and I felt like, kind of like similar to Eunison, where it was like, I'm around people all the time and it is kind of a collaborative thing to be on tour and you're all working together. Yeah. Then you're just suddenly, it's funny how it goes from, wow, I have no alone time at all to suddenly I'm completely alone and this shift has happened way too fast. Yeah. Yeah, I was definitely kind of sad after Tor. I really liked it a lot. Yeah, it was kind of hard to readjust for a moment

because you're like, damn, I've just been in front of people all this time. And then I don't know how to put on a show, I don't know. But I think you quickly readjust it when you have to, right? Yeah, of course, yeah. But it was fun taking some of the skills from doing stage stuff into doing, like, live streaming or YouTube. Yeah. I learned so much about, like, not just, like, myself,

but also just, like, how to, like, perform in front of even just a camera. Yeah, you know, and like the way I, like, talk and the way I express in movement and stuff. Yeah, like, it was, it was eye opening. And just how to, like, convey your energy to a crowd as well. Yeah. Travel control in general. Totally. Yeah, it's a lot of useful skills.

I'm really glad I did it. Yeah. Yeah. Like I said, like I said, it was just like, all right, I've done it twice. That's, that's good for me. I miss being in front of a camera now. I think the European one was fun for us because at least our family got to come. Yeah.

the shows as friends. Like, I think that was a really big plus. Because in America, it's like, you know, I mean, obviously friends in L.A. and other places, but not the same, right? Yeah. Do you guys have any worst memories from tour? Everyone always talks about the best thing. Most memories.

What was the worst things that happened? There were a couple of days when you just wake up and you're like, man, I feel so unhealthy. And I just want to either like walk a ton or eat something that's healthy. So many fast food chains were destroyed during that. You can only fast food. You think only fast food. Yeah, I felt disgusting by the end of all. I missed a healthy meal.

God, I needed a salad so bad. I think my worst memory, though, was... I mean, there was, like, one show that I got, like, really ill for, I think. I remember that. Was it, like, the Florida show or something? And I, like, woke up, had, like, a high fever, and I was like, no, the show must go on. So I was basically, like, just dying in bed all day, like, just, like, high on, like, Tylenol, whatever. And I was just like, I was just like hypernacing and just resting.

And then I like conjured up all this energy for like a two hour show. And I just went back to the bus and died. I remember that actually. I don't know how I did that honestly. I don't know why either, bro. I was scary to watch. That's just when they, when you get on the tour bus, they just tell you like, they're like, you can't shit.

You can't shit. Yeah. Little Pete can't shit. Don't you dare. Don't you dare. Don't you dare. Oh yeah. Gone had moments where like,

Like, what was the one in, like, the middle of the night? Oh, that was in Utah, I think, where I just, you know, I just woke up. Maybe it had, like, some fucking spicy food oil, which is Chipotle or something. And it was just like, you know, when you wake up and you're like, I need to go. I need to go now. But they were like, they put the fear of God in me. Yeah. Like, if I shit, it was going to be like a level like 10 disaster.

Yeah. And it was like, you cannot shit no matter what. Being told you can't shit is so much worse than actually not being able to shit. And, you know, it's like, the most. The most terrifying thing is waking up, knowing you need to shit, not knowing how close near his gas station is, because you're in fucking America. In England, it's like, okay, there is a certain time period where you know there is a toilet coming up.

I'm just like praying to God. Or like Japan, there's like a service area every like 20, 30 minutes at the least. Yeah, I found out I'm just very regular. I've always pooped the same time of the day. Yeah, I had to learn to not be regular on tour. Because I'm just, yeah, I would have to go to the bus driver and be like, I have to shit, sorry. Yeah, I did. And he was like, all right, it's gonna be 20 minutes. I was just like, that's 10 minutes more than what my mind says I'm willing to do, but I am going to try. You got a bucket lying around me?

Do you guys know about the Dave Matthews tour bus poop stories? Yeah, shit all over a bunch of people on a boat. They empty shit into a canal as a boat was passing by. No, I really like the way that you just worded in. Which is Dave Matthews and his whole band, shit on a bunch of people. He did shit on them. Over the bridge. Is this why you can't shit on the bus now?

I don't know. I feel like we all got told the same story, but I don't know if it's actually true or if it was one of those like urban legends. I think it was just the bus driver didn't want to have to deal with empty. Nobody out of the shit tank. You have to empty out the septic tank and like do a whole thing. If they're shit, man. Yeah, so I think it's just, like, way more work.

Because pee, you just... Yeah. You just, yeah. Over a bunch of people. Yeah, it's fine. Some people are into that. Big golden shower people. Yeah.

Also, like, when you'd know when the septic tank wasn't empty, because, like, they were the bus stank, you know? Oh, yeah. You know, add shit to that? You guys had stinky bus? I mean, sometimes, like, we, like, especially at the end of the day when, you know, people have been pissing in it. Like multiple people have been pissing in it.

Like every now and then I'd walk into the toilet, it'd be like, ooh. Did you guys have a shoe drawer? What? No. On my bus? We had a shoes lying around. No, we did have a shoe drawer.

Did we? On my bus, we had a big drawer and everyone would walk in and take their shoes off and then put it in the drawer and quickly close it. So then the whole bus didn't smell like feet. I think we all tried to have like not wear shoes, but then I think it quickly did it up. Really? I don't remember that at all. I just remember the back.

the back room where we just put everything. And that was, yeah, we just have, like, this room in the back where we, like, chill. You can,

if you look online for, like, tour buses, you'll see there's, like, back rooms, but we just ended up putting a lot of shit in there. Yeah,

it just became storage. Yeah. Yeah. We had that as a hangout room because not every one of our bunks was filled. So we had a couple, I think we had two bunks that all of our shit

was just in the bunk. Oh, that's nice. I think we had almost pretty much a full box. We had a full bus. I remember Aaron, uh, obviously from Game Grumps,

came to our Texas show and he was like hey you want to go gym because i think he heard that i wanted to go exercise i was like fuck yeah i'd love to um i don't know why i had a i had an espresso right for i worked out and then aram was training for his boxing at the time yeah and so i was keeping up with his like his cardio yeah and he was doing the whole sprinting stopping sprinting and i was like okay keeping up with this but then while we're halfway through doing the muscle exercise i was like oh i think we might throw up he's like no no you'll be fine and i kept working out and then in the fucking bathroom, start vomiting like crazy.

I thought you were gonna say that you shit yourself while you were working out. I got that thing where you run and you push yourself a little too much and then I didn't immediately

stop working out so that my body was like, let's throw up time. Yeah. Going the acid from the coffee and the couple and so that was, then I didn't tell him

because I was like, I don't want to tell him throw up. You were like, I don't want to disappoint Aaron. I don't want to disappoint him because he's so cool. I didn't want to this point him.

And then I was like, I'd fuck it. I'll just keep working out. So I went back to working out after throwing up after like 10 minutes of being in there and getting those like flash sweats. Yeah. You know, when you have to you throw up

and then you feel instantly better. I was like, yeah. All right, back to throwing workouts. That's terrible. Does he still not know? I think I told him afterwards. I think I told him like a couple of days later. He's like, you pussy, man.

I didn't make fun of me. And I was like, rightfully, so I would have made fun of him too. I was just worried about this point in him. I don't know why. I don't know why. I think I already spoken like twice. I was like I don't want to think I was a fucking weird. No, I get that with Aaron. He is, he is kind of a fatherly figure. Yeah, he is. I don't want to disappoint. That is true.

I don't want to disappoint him. Can you imagine Aaron Hanson being disappointed in you? That makes me feel really upset. I really don't like thinking about that. I want Aaron to be disappointed. Yeah, that is true. You're so chill. Yeah. Yeah. And he's been on the internet for, you know, one of the few people that's been on the internet for longer than all of us.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Fucking hell. Over two decades at least, right? Yeah. Game Grums is the reason that I started YouTube. Yeah, same. Big reason.

Yeah, it was a big reason. Yeah. Well, Joey's just made his own game games. Yeah. I didn't. Yeah. We were talking about that. Yeah.

So fun. Yeah. I have a question for you, boy. Sure. Okay. Joey knows this. Hmm. I've only watched one anime.

Oh, wow. And not even anymore because... No, you haven't. We watched another one together at your house, remember? Not the full thing, though. Not the full thing, but almost. Like two-thirds of-thirds of it. We watched a bit of Attack on Titan.

Yeah, we watched like 10 episodes of Attack on Titan. Yeah, but that's not... How many episodes of Attack on Titan are there? Quite a lot. Quite a lot. Yeah. Four seasons? Yeah.

We didn't even... We got through maybe one season. No, not even. Like half a season. Yeah, so I can't say that I'm watched. Okay, okay, fair, fair. Because I've seen, like, random episodes of stuff. So what is the anime you watched?

One Punch Man, but now I haven't seen it all because season three is out. I haven't watched it and I don't feel the need to. You definitely don't, you don't need to. Just keep on those memories of, uh... What's your question? My question is, because I'm on the definitive anime podcast with no wrong opinions.

Sure. What is the perfect introductory anime, do you think? For somebody that doesn't watch any anime? Is it One Piece? Have you guys all seen all of One Piece? No. I've read all of One Piece. Actually, that's a lie. I'm one arc behind, which is like two years of content.

I own all the volumes at home. I just haven't gone through it yet. I've watched, I've read probably like two-thirds of it. One Piece is a journey. I would say Attack on Titan is honestly a pretty good gay-gway anime. I'd say so. Beth Note's pretty easy as well. Pretty iconic. Kind of easy as you.

into some of the animeisms. It's, the real question I should be asking is, what are some of your favorite TV shows? Or like movies. Or movies. I really like, so I don't watch a lot of TV. I watch a lot of movies, but I don't watch a lot of TV.

But when I do watch TV, it's mostly stuff that is sort of thriller-e drama-e. Right. Like severance I loved, because the whole time I was. like, fuck, what's happening? Yeah, yeah.

I'd say death note. Yeah, good love death note. Death note is something that, you know, it takes one episode to hook you in, and it's like a thrill ride the entire time, essentially. It's the one where he's got the note. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The death happens?

Yeah. Yes, all right. That is it. L? L. Yes, yes. You know the main character's name? Is there...

Is there a reason why you... I'm sure of the internet, and so much of the internet, is like anime. Yeah. Especially nowadays. Yeah. You never wanted to try it out to get into it.

Not really. I think, okay, a little bit actually. I think one of the biggest things that has happened with anime is one, there's so much anime. I mean, that's like anything ever, I guess.

But so many people have been like, you need to watch this anime, and this anime and this anime, and it feels very daunting. It's similar to, uh, before I watched it, my thoughts on Game of Thrones, where it felt like a really huge thing to get into,

and it was going to be really overwhelming. So even though I kind of joked about it, people being like, oh, you should watch One Piece. It's like, I know that I'm never going to watch One Piece because there are so many episodes, and I'm like, I was just too one piece is a daunting. Yeah, daunting task. That's fair. Yeah, I mean, it, you know, it's hard to avoid anime now, you know. It's weird because obviously 10 years ago, whatever, it was just like, oh, you watch anime, then you're like a proper anime fan. Nowadays, it's on, I would say on the same level was just recommending the hottest new show that's airing, you know, of the year most of the time. What's the, what's the most overrated

anime right now? Is that, right now? Is that a bad question to ask you guys? Are you going to eat for it? Oh, yeah, 100%. I mean, yeah, but I feel nowadays, you can say any opinion about any show and you'll get heat for it. Yeah. You know, just like me saying that I like Japan. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, Japan is kind of like the, that's the anime of the country world. Where people are like, you're a Japan, you're a Japan's man?

Yeah. Overrated. Or alternatively, what is a show that people really love? An anime that people really love that each of you are like, I don't like that show. It's stupid. I mean, for me, it's Juzzi Kaysen.

Yeah. I don't even think it's bad. I just think it's fine. Yeah. Yeah, but it's just, it's not for me. It's fine. It's fine, Joe. It's fine.

It's fine. It's fine. It's this generation's bleach. It's fine. You know I'm right. It's this generation's bleach and there's nothing wrong with that. It's just not for me personally. I agree. I don't know anything about either.

Thank you. I don't know. What about you guys? Man, I was an ocean o'clock. hate her from day one. You were. I called it. Did I not?

What? Oceanoco was going to fall off hard. I said it day one. I mean, yeah. It fell off hard. We never fell on for you though. No, because after that's so won, it just lost the plot, bro.

You didn't know what we wanted to tell. Oceanoco was a very popular one. It was, um, you might have heard the opening song was very, very popular, the idol opening. You might have heard it. Maybe.

Sing it, Joey. But da- dun dun dun dun dun da. I fucking hate that. That's the one thing I hate about Oshnoko is that opening. Oh, it's a great opening. You hate it? It's so annoying. Why is it annoying?

It's such an annoying song. Bro, it's a great song. It's a great song. It's a great song. It's a great song. It's a good song. I'm gonna be a firm hater here. 10 times down.

I think that song is so annoying. It's a really good song. What's annoyed about it? It's just too like poppy and chaotic. Can it to the point where it's just like, it's one of those songs where it's like, you know, Every now and then you'll hear a song where you'll like I will hear a song every now

Yeah, when you hear a song, right? It's one of those songs where you listen to it and you're like, I don't really like this all that often and I can't get it out of my head. Yeah, that's that song for me. Can I hear it? True. Am I allowed to listen to it? Yeah, because we don't want to get a copyright claim. We'll play it to you. But we'll put some, we'll play some, um, we'll play some Kevin McLeod over it. Just put some Kevin McLeod music. Just just play the actual opening. What is, uh, what is this? anime about. So this is, uh, my God, bro. This is, how do we even get into this? Is the context important? Uh, kind of. Okay, it's not important for this, but it's actually, are you aware of like the idol culture, V-tubers maybe? V-tubers, yeah. Okay. I don't know what idols are. Okay, so it's

basically the best way I can describe it, uh, it's basically the black mirror version of the Japanese entertainment industry. So it's the darkest, it's the darker side of what goes on behind the scenes like TV actors, musicians, YouTube. I'm so confused for a second. I was like, Black Mirror version of V-tubers. Yeah. What? Yeah, I mean, kind of, yeah. It's kind of, yeah. Let's play it too as well as you can hear it. Oh, I hate this song. I'm going to say something that people might find very offensive. Go for it. But I'm going to say it. The This song sounds like a song that PewDiePie would have made in like 2016. Just the way that the beat goes, it sounds like something that Felix made in 2016 when he was in his filthy prank era.

Like it's not necessarily bad, but I'm just like, oh yeah, like I understand why you don't like it. Yeah. But I can also understand why somebody would like it. Yeah. It's catchy. It's like it's just like bitch lasagna was catchy. Yeah, it was catchy. It was very catchy. I want to say it was a good song, but it was catchy. Oh no, what are we working with right now? Let me know if you guys agree. You're gonna get a swap. Sorry, guys. Sorry. Yeah. So that one's bad. The show is great. I really like the show. No, the show's not great. I really like the show. I like the show. I like the show's not great. I really like the show. I like the show. Yeah. It shows great because it basically is a darker look at, you know, behind the scenes of Japanese entertainment industry, which includes, like, shit like online hate and cancel culture. And I think that's pretty interesting.

It's not like my favorite anime. But I think I think it tackled some pretty interesting topics. I think they tackled it in an appropriate way, too. You know, they didn't, like, over-dramatized it too much. Like, for me. The show didn't know what I wanted to be. Oh, yeah. I mean, there's that as well.

but I think like the, I really liked it for the topics it tackled. And they did it in, in my opinion, they did it in very mature ways. Yeah. But I think the reason Connor didn't like it and which I totally understand is that it's very anime-y. Do you know what I mean? You know what I mean? Like it leans into a lot of the tropes and stuff like that.

Yeah, like there are some anime where you watch and it feels very grounded and the characters. Sorry? Attack on Titan. Yeah, like the characters feel very grounded. I'm so sorry. I legitimately heard you just say, like hentai. There's some hentai that are grounded by the end. I mean, they can be pretty grounded sometimes.

You got to watch some anti. Okay. Are there hentai that you would genuinely recommend where it's like, well, yeah, there's porn and stuff, but it's really good. I mean... I'm jerking it to this stuff. I'm not watching it for the story.

Mr. Ethan has. I'm that a jerk. That's kind of like asking like, what's your favorite porn video? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Like, what's your favorite porn plot? Yeah, it's like, you know what I mean?

Like, is it like a porn you've watched for the story? Like, you won't do it, you know? No, I'm not a jerk. You know, I was halfway through backdoor slots nine and I just, I just shed a tear, because the story was beautiful. I just, just the acting in this is just sublime. I'm so sorry.

Sorry to every viewer with how naive I am. I'm so sorry. That is a funny question. Okay, wait. So is there an anime that you're like, ah, this kind of shit, that everybody loves? Shit, is there? Oh, I'm trying to think now. I'm trying to think.

I don't know if you've had... I think you find the appreciation in anime. Do you guys think that you have good taste in anime? I have a taste in anime. I have a taste in anime. That is unique to be me. Yeah, okay. I have an answer for the most overrated recently, I think, if that can be used as one, even though I personally like the show, the amount of it has been praised to high heaven and back, uh, solo leveling. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Where it is, I've watched it, but I agree with you. It is, it is a, it is a, it is a, it is a, like three episodes and I was like, I can see why people like this. It is a great show. Yeah. Or kind of like, you know, turn your brain off action. Does action. It is a, it is a great show. It is a great show. It is a great show. It is a great show. It is. It is a great show. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is great. And then it is winning awards, left, right and center for like anime of the year,

beating out some very highly acclaimed shows simply because it's very, very popular. Yeah. So that's my answer. Good answer. What's the ice skating one? Uri-on-ice? Yeah. Wow. That's a deep cut. I don't know. There's that and then there's volleyball one. Why do you know Uri-R-N-I know? I know a lot of... I don't know. No, I know. I know what you know.

Yeah, wait, hold on. Did you show me Uri and Ice? I think Aki might have shown you Uri and Ice. And it was around the time where I had that Uri and Ice controversy. You remember? You had a Urion Ice controversy? This would be so funny. Controversy about Uriene Ice?

So basically I did a very short segment in a video where someone asked me about Uri and ICE and I was like, I don't really like it I had my reasons for it I'm like I get why people like it I don't really like it And people took that as

Oh, Joey's homophobic Okay so I wasn't gonna say this But That was a thought in my brain Is that Joey's homophobic No I was like No in my brain I was like Isn't there a gay ice skating one?

Yeah that's hero nice I know why I know about hero Because didn't Octopimp do Yeah Yes he did No he did He did Oh no no that's for

Free. Free. Free. That's another one. That's the swimming one. The swimming one. Yeah. Yeah. That's a fucking throwback. Holy shit. Fifty percent off. 15 percent off. Yeah. That's what it is. Yeah. I was going. I know a lot of sports ones, I guess, because I do know of free. Yeah. Yeah, we're nice. And then.

Yeah. I mean, that's essentially what it is. Yeah. It's a great show. It's a great show. It's a good show. I mean, you're not wrong. It is yowie on ice. And then high Q, the volleyball? Oh, yeah, is that one? I've never seen it.

Yeah, that's one. It's good. I've heard it's incredible, though. What's the, what's the really popular boxing one? Because I did one. Adjima. Yeah, I did watch some episodes of that when I was training for Creator Clash. Oh, my God.

Yeah, because a bunch of people are like, you should watch that show. It's good. Oh, yeah. I didn't finish it. I forgot you did Credit Clash. Mm-hmm. I mean, how was all that? It was so, like, it was very good, but it was so much work.

It was a lot. Because how much training did you have to do for that? Also, also, how did you even get into it? Like, how did this all come out? I... How did I get into it? Oh, I got into it because I was asked to be in the first one, and I couldn't do it because I was on tour.

Oh. And so there was a part of me, and I'm so glad that I didn't do it. But I almost was like, yeah, I'll do it, and then just fly from wherever I'm touring, and go and do the fight, and then fly back. And then I was like, I don't think I can do that You can come to the stage next day, purple. Yeah, and I'm just concussed. Yeah.

Yeah, so I was supposed to be in the first one and then I wasn't able to do it and then when they did the second one, they pulled me back in. But yeah, I trained for nine months. Which is a lot. And how many hours a day were you like training for? So in the first like two months probably,

I was only training like three. or four days a week. And then the last couple of months was the fight camp or whatever when it's like, okay, now you've learned all your stuff. Now we have to just like hone everything

and get ready for the fight. So that was the last, I think it was the last two months was twice a day, six days a week. Twice a day? Holy fuck. It was a lot.

What would that kind of day look like? So I would, I wasn't boxing. technically twice a day, but I was training I was almost training three times a day because I would go and do a boxing lesson and they were usually

around an hour and then I would do boxing and then I would go for a run and then I would lift in the after Oh my God Jesus. So were your whole like you spent like just like a couple months and just only doing that? Yeah

which like that's the thing that people don't think about is when you're training that much, you actually don't have energy to do anything else. Because once you're done training, your body just like shuts off. Yeah. Because also, like, not only do you, you legitimately have to rest or else you won't be able to do anything. But the amount of food that you have to eat is crazy. Oh, like the protein and shit.

Yeah, you just have to eat so much protein. And I had to, this isn't true for everybody because some people had to cut a lot of weight. But I had to gain, uh, I had to gain. 10 or 15 pounds. Oh my gosh. Which I didn't know in the beginning, because in the beginning, I didn't know who was fighting it. Right. And then I started training, and I lost, I lost 20 pounds.

Holy shit. Wow. And then I had to gain like 10 or 15 back. Jesus. Yeah. So the eating part kind of sucked. And then the day of the way in, I drank like three gallons of water because I had to gain weight. Yeah, I had to gain seven pounds.

Oh, my God. I was seven pounds underweight in the morning. And I came in, I came in like four and a half pounds, I think, underweight. But you're allowed to be within five pounds of each other. They're like barely, barely made it. It was scary. It was fun.

I got punched in the face a bunch. Who was your opponent again? Leonhardt, who's a Pokemon YouTuber. Yeah. Yeah, it was fun. It was a lot of work. I would, like, maybe do something like that again, but it's just like, I don't know. It's kind of similar to touring where you just, you do it.

And when you're in it, you're in it. And then afterwards, you're like, oh, how the fuck did I do that? Like, that was so much. There was so much work. I was so tired. But it was super rewarding. It was really fun. Yeah.

Damn. Really fun. Yeah. I mean, I feel like, though, you've kind of had that, like, very stoic mentality. ever since I've known you because like, you know, when you were still doing like let's play stuff, like, you are playing fucking two videos a day every day. Yeah. But like everybody was doing it back then. Yeah, but still, like you were pretty fucking consistent with that.

Like, you were doing that for several years. Like, I was doing one video a day for two years. And even then, that was like a huge strain on me. But that was back when you didn't really have to do anything, you know? In the good old days. We talked about this the other night where it was like, you know, you're doing two videos. videos a day, but it was back when, like, especially with gaming videos, you're basically just kind of cutting a video. You're not actually like editing.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Because now I'll play a game for like 60 hours straight, making into one video. Yeah. It's fucked. It's like how many weeks of work, uh, of, of, sorry, how many weeks of videos would that be in like normal YouTube? Oh, months. That's, that's years of past. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It used to be like 30 minutes, right? You'd cut it down to. Uh huh. Yeah. I guess it would normally be like, probably like, I don't know, like 50 minutes translated to 30 minutes of... Oh, dude, on BestBuds, we do 15 minute episodes, so we can sit and do like a four or five hour recording.

That's like six months worth. But YouTube's changed, man. You can't... No one wants that. Yeah. It makes me a little sad. What do you guys think of the current status of YouTube and just like content creation online?

It's... I mean, I'll be real. It's been a while since I discovered a new creator that I really enjoy. It's normally, it's for the longest time, you know, you go on YouTube and every year you discover

like this new creator doing like content that's, like, it's exciting and new. And now it's just like, damn, it's been like a few years and I'm still watching the same creators that are doing the same kind of content. And I'm not like refilling my stash

with like new creators that are doing new stuff because everything is in like shorts now, you know? Yeah, a lot of people getting into shorts, but also a lot of companies are getting, into YouTube now. Yeah. And they have like full on production teams that are pumping out very YouTube feeling videos and having a lot of success. And it's very odd because you're like, this is strange, but they're not, it's not the same as like a, you know, like a Michael Reeves or something. Yeah. It's very different. It's a weird double-edged store where it's like,

okay, you would inherently want a platform that you're on to progress and for people to learn a lot and, you know, get bigger and bigger. But also it's like, oh, now it's starting to feel a little too much, like, traditional media. And we're losing that, like, homegrown sense of, like, the way that YouTube was so attractive for such a long time because it was, oh, I don't need to have a million dollars to make a video like you would with movies. It's just someone recording stuff in their bedroom. And so it's super accessible. And now it feels a little less. I think that's where, like, live streaming has kind of taken that spot of, like, become the avenue.

Because I think YouTube is so competitive and difficult to get to cement yourself. Yeah. I feel like live streaming is the only way. And a lot of these people are doing it at the extent of, like, their own life. Yeah. They're like, they'll put everything out there and do some pretty crazy shit. Yeah. What's your guys' favorite YouTube rewinds?

What's the era? Favorite YouTube rewind? What's the era of YouTube that you think is the best? That's a crazy question. I thought you're asking about our favorite YouTuber, not YouTube rerun. No, it's all about which ones you remember? Like, because there's an era of you, like, the literal era of YouTube rewinds is gone now.

Yeah. You know? They had one that was fucking, like, I think it was the Gungham style year. And they made a good one. Oh, yeah. One of the earlier ones is, yeah. They all kind of blend together in my head. The problem is that when the platform gets too big,

you just can't, how can you celebrate the whole platform? Yeah. Yeah, because it was like, you know, the YouTube reruns were cringe back then, but at least you recognize the cringe. Yeah, totally. I mean, you're in one of them. Yeah, I was in two of them. What? Which, okay, so remember earlier when I was like, yeah, Mark called me up and I moved to L.A.

Yeah. The first day that I was there, so I flew in the evening before, the next morning, me and him and like two or three other people went and filmed YouTube Rewind. And because he's Mark, he was like, hey, can he be in it? And they were like, yeah, sure. So that was my first day in Los Angeles was being on set for YouTube rewind. Which year was this? 2016. 2016.

Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And then he like pulled me aside and he was like, just to let you know, this is not what every day is going to be like. Like, don't have your expectations. Yeah.

We're going to Buffalo Wildworks right now to level the child. Yeah. That was a really, really funny first day. I was like, wow, I moved to L.A. And it was also on, it wasn't the universal lot, but it was on like a huge, like studio lot. Yeah. So I was like, wow, like real Hollywood set with all this crazy stuff and I'm in YouTube Rewind to the first day that I'm here. That was, that's crazy.

God damn. Yeah. That was. Crazy world. Yeah, that was still when Felix was like the face of YouTube Rewind was named. Oh, totally. Yeah. Yeah.

I think it ends with him at the beach, like picking it up or something, right? Yeah, that sounds right. Yeah. I think so, yeah. Because the year after that was the Will Smith, ah, that's hot. Okay, pretty sure. Honestly, honestly, remember that shit? It was cringe back then.

But down, that was so bad. It was hard. It was like the perfect mix of bad, but still like a cultural, like, culturally so fucking memorable. Now it's kind of nostalgic. Yeah. And then the next time we saw Will Smith in any, like, YouTube or like, meme capacity was that fucking horrible AI Will Smithy spaghetti. Oh, I thought you were going to talk about him slapping.

Oh, well, no. That was a little bit off to that. Oh, yeah, yeah. But before that, it was the horrendous, like, AI, like, Will Smith eat spaghetti meme. And now, and now it's become the benchmark of, like, how good AI is. So, God, how far we've come. How far we've come. How far. Yeah. How far we've fallen. It's a lot of people. It's a lot. It's your favorite. How many did you actually wrecked? Just from being on the internet, do you recognize any?

Do you recognize this guy? No, I don't recognize that guy. Recognize... Oh yeah? Yeah. Recognize her. Yeah. Yep.

I recognize that wolf guy. You recognize the wolf guy? Yeah. Are you serious? From the furry in. I knew you were furry. Did you have to watch any anime. I recognize this wolf guy.

What is the one? Wolf guy from Beastars. Yeah. B stars. That's a good I did watch one episode of that.

Yeah. Great opening. Yeah. I recognize LeBron. Everyone's favorite anime character. Yeah. Oh, thank you so much.

Who else do I recognize? That's me. That's going on. That's awesome. That's awesome. Yeah, that's not all I notice.

Of all the ones you could have recognized, I wasn't expecting fucking beasters. Yeah. It's the hot wolf guy. Hot wolf guy, yeah, exactly. Yeah, I don't know anybody else. I knew. I always knew. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean... Don't recognize her, but... Great. You don't know how... Hatsuname Kikou? Oh, nope. I mean, I know the name.

You don't have to name. If you showed me a proper image of Hotson name... You would recognize. But that's not her usual form. No. She has like a billion forms. Yeah. She's not real.

Why are you going to say it like that? Of course she has She's not real Why are you going to say it like that I'm just saying Why are you to say it like that? She's real to me, okay Joe My favorite

anime character Oh yes Mr. Potato Head Yes So what's next for you? What are you what are you working on? What's what's a What's a 26

Ethan Nester looking like? Uh Because he kind of made like a small shift to your, I guess, channel or career where you've kind of just like, I don't want to say like, dropped expectations, but I'm also just like kind of decided to just do whatever

it is that you feel like you want to do, right? Yeah, because I stopped doing gaming stuff and now, honestly, when I come back from Japan, I think I'm going to start doing gaming stuff again on my second channel. Hell yeah. Because I just really miss it a lot. Like, it got to a point where it got really

monotonous just recording let's plays every single day. And I got really bored of it, but now I really miss that because the stuff that I've been doing recently, it's not like it's highly produced stuff, but most of it is me like going out and filming stuff. And I kind of miss just filming things. Like, I can't remember the last time I filmed something at my desk. So I really missed that a lot. So that is true. I also don't remember the last time I filmed something at my desk. I do a lot. Damn, can be me. Damn. Like I do a lot.

It's easy. Yeah. I mean, I have the setup there. It's just I haven't. For some reason, every time I'm like, oh, I should film this little thing even for the second channel. I'm like, I'll do it somewhere else. Just to change it up a little bit. Just to change it up even though I...

Even though it's just a different part of my house. So yeah, probably making some gaming stuff because I miss it. Let's go. I want to start streaming more just because it's fun. I... a piano this year. Okay. And so in my free time, I've been teaching myself piano, which has been really fun. So you're in your side quest era then? I love a little sidequess. I love a little side quest. You're in your learning different useful, maybe, useless maybe

skills era, right? Yeah. Now, if I was an anime character going on all these side quests, what anime character would I be? Oh, God. Go- Cool. Give engagement to the video. Leave a comment of which would I be the fucking guy from the furry thing? I mean, I strive to be like that. Damn. I know. I want to be like that. Or would I be like Connor in the bubble with the bike?

I'll take a, I'll take the bubble. Or would I be like her with the big boop? Who is that? It's, uh, it's a mom. It's a mom. I mean,

that's literally all she's. She's a mom. It's kind of her thing. She doesn't, she doesn't have a name. Her name's Mamako, I believe. Oh. Yeah. Yeah.

Have you gone figurine shopping? Have you seen the degeneracy? No. Where? So you said that I shouldn't go to Akihabra. You said to stay away. Well, I didn't say stay away. I just said... You hate it and everything about it. No, I said, I don't think you'll get a lot out of Akihabra because it is now so anime-centric. I mean, like, there's still parts of Akihabra that is still the kind of... because before it became like, the anime city, it was known as the electric city, because you'd be able to buy like really cool old and new tech there. Like that's what it was all about. But then now it's become more of like an anime mecca. Yeah. So if you're not interested in anime, then it's, you're pretty limited to what if I'm interested in cool old tech. Is it still there?

In that case, I'd still think you better off going to Nakano Broadway. I think that's more interesting as just like a place to go shopping for weird, cool stuff. Yeah. Why do you hate anime? You're telling me not to go there It's because you hate anime He does He does, he does He does He's grown up to be

Anamon chopped Yeah Anime chopped Yeah, anime chopped Yeah I do like figurines though I have

Yeah I mean I don't have Anime figurines Right I have a bunch of figurines From different video games Oh well then you might be able To find some stuff in Akiabro

For sure Yeah You don't count Funko Pops As figurines right No All right I had to do a thing a couple of years ago, and it made me really sad that I had to do it.

But every Christmas and every birthday, my dad would get me Funko Pops. And then at some point, I had to be like, hey, I don't really like Funkopop. Like, I really love the gesture. And I understand why you would think that I would really like this thing. And I love that you're getting me these, but I don't want them anymore. Hey, son, you like video games, right? That's an apparent thing to do. Like, hear you kind of like one thing.

and you only give you that thing for the rest of your life. Yeah, that is true. You told him, uh, stoff? Yeah, I was just like, I like figurines and stuff. I just don't like specifically funkal pops. Nice. Like, they're all the same and then they're annoying.

That's like, that's like the modern day era of like your parents going to get you a game console or something or a game. And then you're getting you like the Shrek 2 video game or something like that. Did he take it well? Yeah, he took it well. Well, it's funny because like,

what? He really, he really, likes figurines and stuff. And for a really long time, I would just get him cool random looking figurines. I have to, like, kind of hint to him, like, it's these that I want. These are the cool things. Yeah, so he doesn't do that anymore.

He just makes me stuff now, which is sick. That's why he's so much. Over COVID, he got super into 3D printing. Oh, shit. So he made my tour poster as a sign that lights up. And he, like, did all the wiring. stuff for it. It's sick. That's cool. And he made, he's

a really big beer guy. So he had a keg-a-rater and he made it into a Star Wars themed kegurator where he 3D-printed like the shell that goes around it and then airbrushed all of it. It like actually looks like it's out of the Star Star Wars set. It's so cool. What is

a keg-a-rater? Keggerator is a mini fridge that has a keg on the inside and then the top has a tap Oh. That's so sick. That's sick, yeah. What the fuck? It's really cool. At least he didn't 3D print you Fonko bulbs. No, he did not.

Oh, Kegarator. Here, while you do that, I'll pull up. Whoa. So, wait, he made that? Like a 3D printed one? No, no, no. So he bought a Kegarator and then he three printed the shell. Yeah.

Damn, that's cool. Oh, I'll find it. Like Gant's future home. Yeah, it is. Yeah, you need that in every man cave, I feel. That would be so hot. This is the type of shit if you have like a fucking garage. Yeah.

Or a basement. Which he did have a garage. He had this weird. He called it his kill room. Okay, hold on, wait. So he was doing all this airbrushing. So he just made all these walls and then like put the plastic over it.

But it did look really bad because he was painting. Like an American Psycho said? Yeah, he was painting with a lot of red. So there was just like splatters of red all over the place. That's sick. I'll have to find this later because I don't know where it is in my phone. But it's. it's really cool. He's very talented

because he used to do a lot of 3D animation so he already kind of like knew his way around 3D programs. Basically 3D modeling, right? Yeah. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah, so we would model all the stuff and then he would print it and then that's how we got through COVID was just being in the garage. That's sick.

Huffing those paint fumes and making a little beer thing. That's sick, yeah. But now every birthday he will just like make me a cool... He loves Star Wars so he'll make me kind of like a Star Warsy kind of space themed like light or just like a cool plaque. And you have to be like, I don't like Star Wars. I hate Star Wars. I hate Star Wars. All right. Well, I mean, thanks for everything's coming on. Yeah, man. Thank you so much for having me. Anything you want to shout out? Nope.

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I love how we didn't get to talk about your Japan experiences at all. Next time. Next time. You got to come back. When I come back, I will come back to Japan 10 years from now. I just have to gaslight you for another 10 years.

You have to look disappointed in me. Oh yeah. We'll believe it when we see it. Yeah. We'll believe it when we see it. We'll see you next year. Yeah, we'll see you next year. All right, see you guys.

All right, see you guys next week. Bye.