Trash Taste Podcast - The SPICY Food Takes Don't Stop | Trash Taste #146
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Hello and welcome to another episode of Trash Taste.
I'm your host for today, Garn, joining me once again,
are the boys?
Hello.
How are you guys doing today?
Yeah, doing alright.
You guys have had a busy, like,
I guess we've all had like a busy week, right?
I was gonna say, like, you really started off
with like the deepest size, like, how's it gonna go?
Yeah.
Yeah, it's been, I think it's been a pretty busy week
for all of us, either traveling or doing stuff.
Joey, you went to Korea for the first time, didn't?
I wanted to ask you about that.
Finally went to Korea.
Yeah.
Just for like three days for Arkhi's birthday.
Right.
Yeah, it was freaking awesome.
Yeah, I mean, big surprise.
Korea's kind of cool.
Yeah, it is, it is.
Wow.
Big surprise.
The food there was freaking amazing.
Wow, no one knew that before.
Yeah.
But yeah, I don't know.
We were just like, just being tourists for three days.
Just because I like, I've never been there.
And it's so close to Japan.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah, like two hours.
Yeah, it takes longer to get to Okinawa
than it does to Korea.
Exactly.
And I've been to Ocenault like five times.
So it's like, okay, I have no excuse, I gotta go.
Whereabouts did you say?
Mostly just in Seoul.
Yeah, I think, because we only had three days.
So I figured like, yeah, I was like,
should we take a day to like, you know, go to like,
you know, Busan or like Gungnam or like other places like that,
but I'm just like, eh, I just kind of wanted to explore actual soul
because it's a lot bigger than I thought it was going to be.
Yeah, it's fucking massive.
Yeah.
Because like, you see it on the map, right?
And it's just like, oh, it's like not that much different to like,
Tokyo, for example, it's so much bigger than that.
Because even if it just seems down the road,
it's like, oh, it's 20 minutes by train.
And I'm like, how does that work?
But yeah, so, because we have like a couple of friends
who like used to live in Korea quite a long time.
So we were just like, just give us recommendations
for like the most touristy shit we can do.
Yeah, yeah.
So we went to like, you know, the food markets there
and like, you know, the, I guess the equivalent
of Tokyo Tower in Seoul, which is called Namsamstam.
I think it's cool.
Yeah, it was really cool.
Just super chill.
One thing that I was pleasantly surprised about
is that damn, everyone can speak English there.
Yep, yeah, and it's awesome.
Really?
Yeah, like I, like even if like you walk into a store, right,
and immediately, you know, they greet you in Korean,
but then the moment you start speaking English,
they just switch to fall on floor in English
and they're just like, oh, okay, yeah, sure.
Yeah, I was surprised by that when I went to Korea as well,
because there were times, there was like a few times
where I was just like,
we and seen were like, staring at like the train map
trying to figure out how to get to the place we want to go.
Yeah. And every time we stood there for like more than a minute,
someone came over and was like, oh, do you need help?
In like perfect English.
Yeah. I would explain how to get there in perfect English.
Yeah. I'm just like, yeah, I'm going to see League of Legends.
Okay. Do you know which stadium that is?
Yeah.
I'm trying to watch Imagine Dragons actually.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, but it was so, you know, yeah.
surprising that like I think just not only the fact that English is such a
prevalent language that's spoken there but also just like one massive
difference I saw especially compared to Japan was not only that but also just
how much people are okay with being on a camera because Aki and I were both
vlogging the entire our entire trip and you know when you go to like the food
markets for example and you know you'd point the camera at like the food and
stuff like that and I think my like Japanese brain kicks in yeah I'm just
like I'm gonna try and avoid getting random people
into my videos because they might not like it.
No, there were so many instances where I would point,
you know, the camera towards like a food store or something.
And the man or the woman behind it would just be like,
Yay!
Like there was so chill and okay with being on camera.
And when we were at this random food store,
there was this Korean couple that just started talking to us.
Again, in perfect English and was just like, oh, I wouldn't, you know,
I wouldn't recommend that if you don't like spicy food.
In the most like, and I thought like,
oh, have you lived outside of Korea before?
And they're like, never left the city.
And like, why is your English so good?
What the hell?
And it's just, I got a glimpse of what Japan might be
if English was as commonly used as it was in Korea.
Right.
Because immediately as a tourist, I felt so much more comfortable,
like just kind of talking to people and like, I wasn't as,
I mean, no, obviously I was trying to also practice
my horrible Korean.
as well. Yeah. But at the same time, if it failed, then there was always that fail safe of,
oh, they can speak moderately decent. You have a safety net. Yeah, they have a safety net,
which I feel a lot of people who come to Japan as a tourist, unfortunately don't really get.
Yeah. purely because English is just not as commonly spoken and you get that like,
Nunny, like face, right? Every time you go. I mean, I think we are very, very lucky to know English
because it's such an O.P. language if you're traveling about.
Yeah.
And you forget sometimes that, you know,
you forget sometimes when you travel,
there are some places that just don't know much English at all.
And Japan is like one of those countries in comparison to some other major cities
and then a lot of like other like, let's say, culturally famous places.
Japan doesn't really speak that much English.
China's a big one as well.
Yeah.
It's like if you go to like any major Chinese city,
a lot of people there do not speak English.
and you forget, okay, English is only popular
in certain places in the world.
Yeah.
And there are some places and you've gotten used to being able
to just like kind of like push through with,
you know, really slow English in some places,
but in Japan it's a lot harder than other places.
Yeah.
So everyone should learn charades profession.
Just in case they don't speak English.
And then at least be like, all right,
I know how to symbolize what I'm doing.
Like, can I have chicken, chicken?
Oh, that's not good.
Stick on chicken, please.
Stick on chicken.
Stick on chicken.
chicken.
Yeah.
No, but obviously, you know, the food was freaking amazing there.
Like everything I have.
Do you have Korean fried chicken?
Of course.
Of course.
I was gonna ask, how many times though?
Like, I think I would have come back with 15, like,
points of high cholesterol.
I would have hit it every day.
I mean, we only went once, but it's because we tried to have as much variety of
Korean food as possible.
So we were just like, we're just gonna try everything.
And we saved the Korean chicken till last, because it was like,
you know what's gonna slap.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's pretty hard to mess up and I know like,
and also my Korean friend was like,
go to this place because this is the best place to go.
And we went there, man, I had a food wars moment.
I was like three quarters chub at least eating this chicken.
And it was amazing.
That's fried chicken man.
The like the barbecue there, the K barbecue there was also amazing
and so cheap too.
Yeah. It's insane.
Like I thought eating out in Japan was cheap.
But then when you go and eat out in Korea, it's like,
it's even cheaper.
It's even cheaper.
Yeah.
It's great, because like even the food stalls and stuff like that,
I get confused initially because, you know,
compared to the yen, the Korean one extra digit.
So 300 yen in Japan, which is about $3,000, Korean, one.
So when I initially look at the prices,
my heart just goes, oh, but then I realize it's like,
oh wait, it's like three bucks.
Yeah.
So yeah, I got some of the most, like, amazing, like, street food there.
Like everyone was so like hospitable.
and like friendly and they were so like eager to be on camera as well.
Like I had this one woman who like dragged Arki and I
into this, into the seafood place.
And she just like lured us in.
We were like, all right, let's, let's see what happens.
Yeah.
And she like dragged us into her, like, her shop.
And she just started serving us this like fresh crab meat
with like, with, you know, like on a bed of rice
with like a little bit of kimchi on top.
Yeah.
And it was the most amazing thing ever.
And she was, she was plating it up,
like she was fucking serving it to Gordon Ram's.
And she's just like, okay, okay, I will do the best thing for you.
Here you go, camera, camera, look at this.
Like she kept pointing to the camera being like,
focus on this, focus on this, right?
I'm like, what are you a YouTube?
It's like, a food review channel happening.
Yeah, it's super sucks.
I guess you're always in Japan.
And rightfully say you should assume
that people just don't want to be on camera.
Yes, of course.
It's the correct way of assuming.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But that is, yeah, it's weird to think that they're just like,
I'm the movie star, get me on camera.
How do I look?
Yeah.
Flip the camera on.
Let me see it.
No, honestly, like a lot of them were like that.
And you know, it's more understandable
if it's like younger people, right?
But a lot of these people running these food stores
in Seoul of the older generation,
which you would think is not that comfortable
with being on camera.
But I guess, you know, the place we went to,
the famous food markets there,
there's been so many like food channels,
like doing videos there and TV station doing videos there.
So I guess they're just like used to being on camera now.
But I also think, this is total conjecture, by the way.
I think that when I went to Korea,
it felt so eerie, right?
Because it was so, like, you go to Seoul
and you look around and you're like,
this feels very much like Tokyo.
Yeah. Like I remember saying to Sydney,
if you just dropped me in a random place in Seoul
and dropped me in a random place in Tokyo,
if I did not recognize Kanji at all or anything like that,
I would have trouble distinguishing from like first looks,
which city I'm actually in.
Yeah. They look eerily similar,
but then you walk around, and Korean
people from what I experienced were just a lot less reserved than Japanese people, right?
Japanese people are very, very reserved. And I think, I think, I would, I would like to guess
that internet culture is just a lot more prevalent in Korean culture, I would think. I mean,
it's the, it's literally the country that kind of like birthed e-sports, right? That's where
the esports had its major roots put into it.
So I would imagine that just the whole culture over there
is much more aware of just in the internet age
and just the online culture.
Oh yeah. I believe so, yeah.
It's the only country on earth
that is I think fast internet than Japan.
Yeah, I think it's one of the fastest internet connections
in the world.
I think it's number one.
Yeah, I can't remember if it still is,
but a while back.
I mean, I certainly had no problems connecting
to any Wi-Fi.
That's what so.
It's so publicly available.
Yeah, exactly.
Did you partake in the drinking culture at all?
Yeah, of course I did.
They are brutal over them.
And holy shit.
I mean, my only saving grace was that
Aki is not that much of a drinker.
So I kind of had like a scapegoat for that.
But my God, man, like I just even going to like the K barbecue
and just looking across the room
and just seeing like 20 soju bottles for like three people
that are just sitting there.
And they're just like,
and drinking away like it's nothing.
I'm like, bro, I feel sorry for the doctors
that have to check up on your goddamn liver every year.
Like, yeah.
Oh my God, yeah.
But I did though, I guess like the one aspect
to I guess the stranger friendliness in Korea
that almost backfired in a way was,
I think it was like the second night we're in, so.
And we were just kind of walking back from a restaurant,
just, you know, chatting away or whatever.
And this random dude just,
just came up to me, random Korean dude.
And I knew something was kinda weird
because he kind of flagged me down.
And then he was like, oh, hey mate, how's it going?
He kind of spoke in like a slight Australian British-esque accent.
But the kind where it's like a bad impression.
Right, oh, okay.
And at first, I thought it was a fan, right?
Because he just came up to me not so nonchalantly.
And so I responded like, I wouldn't
if it was a fan, I shook his hand.
I was like, yeah, man, how's it going?
You know, like, how's your night being, blah, blah, blah.
And then randomly, he just points towards this building
in the distance and he goes, I work there.
And I went, cool.
Didn't ask, but I'm glad you're happy that you work
at that particular establishment that I'm unaware of.
And then he just started asking me questions like,
oh, where are you guys from, you know, blah, blah, blah.
And that's when,
I realized, oh, he's not a fan. He's just a random dude who just stopped me. And I guess just
wanted to start talking to me for some reason. That happened to me twice when I was in soul.
I was in self for like three days as well. Yeah. And people like just randomly, obviously
we look like tourists. And I think, I don't know if it's normal for locals to do this,
but especially I felt like someone just wanted, it felt like someone just wanted to practice
their English. Right. They saw a tourist. They were like, all right, boys, it's time. And unlike,
Unlike, you know, Japanese people where they're like very reserved,
they're like, you know, can't talk to random strangers.
Don't do that.
Don't break people's social boundaries.
Koreans are just like, you know what?
I'm just gonna strike up a conversation
and see where it takes me.
Honestly, and I think the only reason why he decided
to start talking to me in particular
is because I think he heard my accent
and then he mentioned to me that he lived in the UK for a couple of years.
And that's how he learned his English.
And I was like, okay, I mean, good on you.
Like, you know, your English is certainly better
than, you know, the average Korean
that I've talked to so far on this trip.
But also, it was at like 11 p.m. on a side street.
And my first instinct was,
this guy's trying to fucking mug me.
And I can see, Aki's just like shitting herself.
Just be like, get me the fuck out of this conversation right now.
And then I found it really weird
when after all of that just kind of chit-chat,
getting to know, you know, about him and his,
supposed workplace.
Yeah.
He was like, where are you staying?
And then that's when the red flag went up and I was like, oh, and I just, I just mentioned
some other hotel.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I just mentioned some other hotel.
I'm like, oh, it's like down there.
We gotta get the train or whatever.
And he's like, okay, do you want me to like take you to that hotel?
And I was like, I'm good, bro.
That's a note from me, dog.
I know my way.
We've been it for a couple of days.
It's all good.
And so I started to get really, really worried.
Yeah.
Luckily, he left me alone after that.
He was just like, okay, have a good night, mate.
And I was like, too, friend.
Yeah, you didn't happen to me.
Yeah, I was like, yeah, you too, man.
And I just fucking bolted across the road.
I'm like, please don't follow us.
But yeah, that was, it was scary, but also,
I don't know, it was a little bit endearing, right?
Yeah, yeah.
That is a situation that you will almost never encounter in Japan.
Right.
Especially if the Japanese person is striking up the conversation.
Yeah, that would never happen.
That would never happen.
Absolutely no way.
Especially in Tokyo.
So yeah.
It's happened a few times outside of Tokyo,
but not in Tokyo.
No, no.
It's happened to me in like Orsuk and stuff, right?
Where the stranger friendliness is a little bit better,
but never in Tokyo.
Yeah, I, going to Osaka.
This is a random question, which I noticed,
because I also just recently went to
on Connoz-R-V trip, which was major success.
Congratulations, broke.
Congratulations.
Thank you, thank you.
Yeah, why do people on Osaka
on the escalator stand on the right hand side
and people in Tokyo stand on the left hand side.
What's up with that?
Oh, that's a West Japan versus East Japan thing.
That's what they do.
Yeah.
And people in Hokkaido stand mostly in the middle.
What?
Yeah.
Did you ever notice that?
Do they really?
Yeah.
I feel like they don't.
That's like a thing that they do.
Who decided this?
I don't think I've been on an escalator in Hokkaido.
Wow, that's an achievement.
I actually don't think I have.
Yeah, but for some reason,
I don't know who came up with this rule,
but for the most part, if you live on East Tokyo,
you stand on the left.
If you live in West Tokyo, you stand on the right.
I think this is just like a little quirky thing
that they wanted to just keep.
I think so.
And they were like, that's our thing.
Yeah. We're different.
We are different from Tokyo.
And I think they just kept it.
Whereas like other places are like, we have,
I don't know, we're more alcoholic than you.
Whereas to Japan, they're like,
we stand on the other side of the escalator.
And it's like, what?
What?
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, it's just some random piece of thing
that I noticed when I went to Osaka.
But that's how you can tell if someone is from
outside of the prefecture.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right?
I feel like that's like the silent way
to out someone to be like, oh, he doesn't belong here.
You're not from around here.
He's not from around here.
The OP ways you just copy whatever else
is doing at all times.
Yeah, everywhere.
And then that way you can't go wrong.
And then you don't even know which side is left all right.
I still haven't figured that out.
Yeah, you still have to do this thing.
I just believe people.
I don't even know what side of the road
do they drive on here.
I just follow the other cars.
Like I don't know.
Did you notice in Seoul for you,
when you went out later,
like, well, there's just a lot more drunk people
on the streets than we would expect in Tokyo?
Holy shit, every corner I walked around.
It was like Shibuya Meltdown, but like every corner.
Yeah, I was, it shocked me so much.
Not only that, but it was Shibuya Meltdown
at like 8 p.m.
Yeah, right?
And it's like, we're walking to the restaurant
and I just see a dude asleep in the hedges
on the side of the road.
I'm like, homeless or just very, very drunk
at an 8pm on a Friday?
I was gonna say, was it a weekday or just, was it?
So the first day we got there was a weekday.
Yeah.
But even still, it's like, even on a weekend,
I'm like, damn, these boys going hard.
Like, it's not even that late
and you're already like this?
Yeah, that's one thing that surprised me
because I thought in Japan, you know,
there is a big drinking culture here in Japan,
especially, you know, with workers and salary men
and everything like that.
But in Korea, I think,
it's just on a whole other level.
Oh, yeah.
It's like...
It's because soju fucks you up.
So much harder than anything Japan has.
They don't just fuck you up.
They mix that shit with beer, man.
I know.
And I know there's a word for it,
but it's like, it is, you know, traditional.
I think it's called devil's concoction.
Because that's what it should be called.
It is called regret the next day.
That's the official Korean translation.
Hangover speed run.
Yeah, because I don't know what, like, like soju,
like, unflavored soju, that shit, that shit tastes.
It's like turpentine, dude.
Holy shit, it's horrible.
It is, it is, I cannot handle that.
It's taste too strong for me.
For some reason, most of the time you mix
some kind of spirit with a beer taste worse, right?
Some reason, sojour and beer,
I don't know how they had this magical concoction
that it's the perfect spirit to have with beer,
but also it's the most dangerous one
because mixing any spirit with beer
is just like, of road way to regret.
I love beer, it's hearing that they mix it.
I know they mix it and I've tried it,
the soju with beer, but I don't like it.
You don't like it?
I like my beer being beer.
I'm kind of indifferent to it.
Like beer?
Maybe just because I'm a soju hater,
but anything with soju, I'm like, nah.
What's like the go-to beer in like Seoul?
Like, because you know how in Japan is Asahi
and the UK have terrible beers?
I'll remember.
There is, yeah, there is one local Korean beer.
It's like the goat beer.
Yeah.
What's the goat?
It's, I mean, I wouldn't necessarily call it the goat.
It's like the beer that you drink if it's like cheap.
The Matt, the Kno's it.
Kahn knows it.
Kass?
That's it.
Yeah.
It's like they're like,
Asahi, okay.
Yeah, I think I had it and like-
I had this one time.
Yeah.
I mean, it was all right.
Like, I mean, I've had it and I don't blame
them for putting soju with it.
That's just, let's just say that.
The box standard beer shouldn't be the best tasting beer.
It should just be a passable beer.
No, of course, affordable and very easy to churn out.
Yeah, yeah.
That's where Asahi's good, it tastes like very,
what's the word?
It's inoffensive.
Yeah, it's so inoffensive to everyone.
Yeah.
Even if you're like not a big beer person,
you're like, well, sorry,
he doesn't have much going on.
Yeah.
It's just very light, very easy to drink.
I think the Tsaii's my favorite out of like the mass produced worldwide beers.
Oh, okay, okay.
Yeah, like not the best beer, obviously, okay.
Okay, Germans, Germans, Belgium's come to fuck down for a second.
Obviously that crown goes to Budweiser as we've established.
But if you go into a bar or pub and you see something on tap and it's just one of like, you know,
Kalsberg, Asahi, Heineken, all like the normal ones.
I'll choose Asahi every time.
Oh yeah.
That to me is like, it's the most refreshing beer
and it's the most inoffensive as well.
Fair enough.
But yeah, I don't rate Thai beer at all.
That's just me.
I mean, we had it in Thailand.
You guys had it and...
I knew they didn't know what was going on with beer
when they tried to hand me a straw.
That's what I knew.
I didn't trust him.
I was like, this beer can't be good.
You know, no, no, no, no, don't give me a straw.
What is that?
What is that? What is the fruit loop?
Yeah, but like, I think the other thing that just got me shocked
while I was in Korea was just, man,
I haven't weighed myself, but I definitely put on weight
because, I mean, for one, I was eating so much more
because everything was delicious.
But I'm like, two, I'm like, how do these Koreans stay thin?
Like, it's insane, like, because everything
just seems so inherently bad for you,
especially when you compare it to like a lot of Japanese food.
I guess it's the same in Japan though, right?
Like you can, when you come as a tourist,
you can easily eat everything and it's like,
most of it's pretty bad for you.
Yeah.
But if you're living here, you probably eat a lot more healthy stuff,
you pretty have way more kimchi in your day.
Oh my god.
Put you don't eat fried chicken often.
Yeah.
Dude, my farts were smelling like kimchi.
That's how much I was eating.
Like, was there a noticeable taste in the kimchi in Korea compared to foreign or?
So, they gotta figure it out pretty much.
Yeah, okay. So, like, I think the one reason why I rate Korean kimchi over, like, Japanese
kimchi or, like, anywhere else I've had it, is that, like, the, the cabbage just feels fresher.
Okay.
Like, even though it's weird because it's fermented, right?
So technically it's not fresh.
But I don't know, it has like a certain, like, crunchy.
to it, I think that just feels nicer to eat.
I think like a lot of kimchi I've had,
especially in like Japanese like Yaki Niko
wherever it's like it can get a little bit sloppy sometimes.
Right. And very like soupy.
Yeah. Whereas I feel with Korean kimchi,
they don't overdo it with like the sauce
or whatever it is, right?
So it's it just feels lighter to eat.
I feel like that's more on like the chef
or whoever's fermenting the kimchi
and how much how much you ferment it.
But I had kimchi at every food estate
I was in Korea and it was all pretty unanimous
with like the freshness of it.
So I was like, okay, well, I mean, this is a Korean.
Looking for the third person,
this sounds like a placebo kind of thing.
Yeah, it's just like, normal kimchi, Korean kimchi.
Yeah.
Maybe it was, I don't know, but...
Being Korea.
I mean, it made my food experience
that much more enjoyable, so I'll take it,
but I also ate like way too much toopogi
because like, that's one of my fucking favorites.
It's so nice.
It's heavy and like, God,
The first night I went to this like food market
and I got like this full on bowl of top boggy.
This thing looked like it was sitting in a bowl of lava.
Like it was so much sauce and it was red as hell.
It's so feeling, man.
It's so feeling.
I'm not a big fan of Topoki.
And God, my asshole was on fire the next day,
but goddamn was worth it.
It was so goddamn good.
Here's what I want to know.
How was the airport in Korea?
Ah!
Okay. I don't know why.
I feel like you can judge your city
pretty accurately on the quality of the airport.
Really?
I feel like it gives you an indication.
of what to expect.
If you've got every airport you've been to,
I feel like it's very reminiscent of the city as a whole, right?
Maybe.
I don't know.
You can't even an airport that feels wildly different
to the city?
I'm trying to think, right?
Because a lot of airports are very just neutral in my mind.
There's only like the big cities that stand out to me.
Yeah.
So like where we landed, which was Inshone Airport,
which is like the main-
There are two airports?
Yeah, there's not, there's not.
a number of airports in Seoul, I think,
but Incheon is kind of like,
Incheon reminded me of Narita,
where it was like, kind of outside of the city,
it was like an hour and a half away
from Seoul Central City.
But it's, that's where all the international flights
like, so we didn't have a choice.
That's the major one.
Yeah, but it very much reminded me of Narita
in a lot of ways, whereas like,
very bog standard, very gray, simple.
Like, you know, they're not going like
avant-garde with the like they do at Hannada, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was like, yeah, I mean, it's fine.
It was a possible airport.
I mean, anything compared to LAX, right?
So as long as it's not LAX level, I'm happy.
Just keep me out of LAX and JFK.
Yeah, I just like making mental notes of airports I go to.
Like which ones I liked and what's,
what's your favorite airport?
Ever? Yeah.
Why, dude, I really wanna go to this.
Singapore is like that.
Singapore's the goat, man.
Singapore is the goat.
Oh, I agree.
I really wanna go to that one.
Yeah.
Not to Singapore, just the airport.
Once I get to the airport, I'm like,
I'm gonna.
I've been to Singapore, guys.
I wanna go to Singapore Athor
to go to a better Southeast Asian country,
right? fellow Southeast Asians in watching this.
As a Malaysian, I would agree, Chummy is very good.
It is a fucking nice, A-Buh.
To be fair.
Why did I say fellow South East?
Fellow Southeast.
I'm one of you.
Hello fellow Southeast.
Hello fellow white people.
How are you today?
I don't know, trying to think, which one's been my favorite?
I think Vancouver airport's okay.
Vancouver's pretty nice.
Yeah, Vancouver.
I've never gotten off in Vancouver,
but I've laid over at Vancouver Airport.
It was quite nice.
Yeah.
I'm trying to remember which airports
have left an impression on me.
Vancouver has one of the best designs
of like terminals I've seen.
It's got like a very nice theme to it.
I think it's meant to be like, I don't know,
it's like all wood.
I think it's supposed to be like reminiscent
of like indigenous groups.
It's lovely.
I, all I remember from Vancouver airport
is such a middle-aged man conversation.
Which airport is your favorite?
The only thing I remember from Vancouver airport
is that on the way to immigration,
there's this like massive waterfall
inside the actual airport.
I'm like, ooh, that's pretty.
Like, you know, I think to all the airports I've been to,
and I feel like they do kind of do a very good job
of like mirroring the city vibes in many ways.
Like LAX is like dysfunctional,
but you can pay a lot of money to make problems go away.
Yeah.
And it's just a mess and a war zone.
The UK is like kind of fun,
but also just a lot of headaches,
which I feel like is the UK.
What about Sydney Airport?
Sydney Airport was great.
I had a great number of Sydney Airport,
you know?
Good vibes.
It's a lot of alcohol.
Yeah.
So many, like Sydney, I've never seen another airport do this.
Sydney Airport, like on the way to go to the passport check,
I've never seen so many alcohol shots.
Oh yeah.
Last chance.
And then you're like, you go through, you're like,
all right, another last chance and you're about to go through,
like, seriously now.
Last you have, you can buy four bottles.
It's like tax for, what are you doing?
And then when you get through the passport thing,
It's like you put in your ticket to go through.
It's like, where is your full bottles of alcohol?
Yeah.
You didn't buy any.
Are you done?
Yeah.
They're like, you don't understand how expensive.
Jono wants four bottles of Bombay Safar.
Yeah.
What are you doing?
That's what every, every Australian complains about when they go abroad.
They're like, this, the Bombay Saffir is this trip?
How expensive it is in Australia?
Dude, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like,
$65.
It's fucking ridiculous.
That's why every time I come back home, my dad is like, four bombays, mate.
That's all I know.
It's not even that good gin, but it's just like pretty good.
And it's like very good like consumer gin, I think.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, like fancy craft shit, but yeah.
Yeah, I really like Sydney Airport.
But like I didn't know if I actually liked it or I was just relieved because it was such a big contrast from flying to LAX to flying to Sydney.
And I was just like, oh my God, a pleasant experience at an airport.
Okay. Oh, I've missed this so much.
I remember when I went to, uh, I went to New Brunswick Airport in Canada.
New Brunswick is like right, right, right, east
just before Nova Scotia.
Right.
Which was the weird thing as well,
because I didn't realize that that even had its own time zone
outside of the normal US one.
It's minus, so the UK is zero.
Right. New York is minus five,
typically without east, let's say ignore daylight savings.
This one was minus three.
So it's two hours ahead of New York,
because it curves around like that.
And this airport was so small.
The person who checked me in then also helped, like,
get the bags off the belt and hand it to the people picking them up.
them up. Like I checked in and then I put my bags on and I saw the same person go back and
start helping like move the bags around. I had the exact same experience. I was like, what the
exact same experience when I flew to Yaksima. Yeah. And I was like, because the plane itself
could fit maybe like 20 people in it. Oh, wow. Tiny fucking biplane. And we landed. And as we were coming
down, I saw this fucking crapshack. And I'm like, that's the airport? I've seen apartments
It's bigger than this.
Yeah, the thing that sucks about getting two hours early
but for your flight for that is that you get there two hours early
and you literally have nothing.
Yeah, there's nothing to do.
You go inside and there's just like a bench.
That's it.
Yeah, literally.
And it was freezing cold because it was in like Canada.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I remember one of the weirdest airports I've been to
was back when I was a teenager,
a popular holiday spot for, you know, young teenage Brits
is a Cavos, which is like one of the, yeah, exactly.
Where is that?
It's one of, it's like an, sorry.
Isn't it in Spain?
I think it's Greek.
Oh, fuck, one of the Greek islands.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, it's, it's, I say, you know,
it's not the, it's not my favorite holiday in the world,
you know, but as a British teen, you go there
and you just get fucking shit face hammered every day.
It's that kind of holiday.
Yeah, the equivalent in Australia is Bali.
Okay, okay, right.
It's the only destination to go
to just get hammered as a teenager.
And I remember, I remember the passport check
at that time when I flew there,
was we landed and we go into the airport
and I'm waiting for the passport check
and everyone's like, all right, bring your passports out
and there's one security dude, no desk, no nothing,
just standing there and you're literally just waving your part,
like there's a group of people,
just waving your passport as you like walk past him
and that was the passport check and I was like,
what is going on right now?
Where's the national security?
Just dude going, yep.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've had a harder time getting into some nightclubs
and I'm coming into this country
and all I'm doing is just flat,
Like what?
I don't know if it's still like that,
but that's what it was like when I,
when I was 18, Jesus Christ.
Yeah, I mean, I think that was,
yeah, yeah, I remember I went to Greece
and it was pretty much like, they were like,
all right, what are you, are you coming in?
Yeah, no, no, no, take it that.
I'm, I don't get paid enough to check your passport.
But you went on your RV trip.
I did, yes, four days of RVing,
12 hours of live streaming a day.
God, yeah.
But I think it went really well.
Unless you got your hours in.
Yeah, right.
You get my, got the old hours in, you know how it is.
Yeah, it was really fun.
Very stressful, very, very stressful, very tiring.
Of course, of course.
You wake up one hour of prep and then go live
and then one hour of prep and then sleep, rinse and repeat.
Jesus. And sleeping in an RV is sucks.
It sucks.
Well, it's a pretty big RV though, right?
Yeah, you got the best bed as well though.
I had the best bed, but it still sucks.
What the fuck are you complaining about?
You had the double bed.
Yeah, I mean, it was a little bed.
It's only a double bed, it's not a queen.
Listen, listen, it's like, it's a cushion.
It's a cushion, okay?
And so I rented, like, so when I rented this RV,
you could, you could tick a bunch of things
you wanted to rent with it.
And I rented like the sleeping bags and the pillows.
Yeah. And I mean, you know, I'm not a picky guy, right?
Yeah. I mean, okay, I lie, I'm a picky guy.
I'm a picky guy.
Yeah.
But for this, like, when it's a video shoot,
I'm kind of, I'm like, whatever gets it done.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
Yeah, sure.
Like, whatever we do to do.
Like, you're not there for a holiday.
No, no, if it's a holiday, and, and,
This happened, I'd be like, excuse me.
But I know, whatever.
Where is my king bag?
Yeah, I would have, okay.
So we rented the sleeping bag and pillow set.
We get this pillow and it's literally just this like,
it's a floatable like device.
It's it would have blow it up.
Yeah, it's like a pole noodle.
Yeah, it's fine, it's fine,
but it's like I feel bad when I'm asking like,
Pete and Dieter's joined me.
And I feel bad with him like, hey guys,
come join me by way, you gotta be on camera
of 13 hours and you've to sleep on an air pillow.
Yeah.
I was just like, I'm sorry, guys, man.
I'm like, we can buy real pills if you're like,
no, that's fine, it's fine.
It just sucks because you just want a real pillow sometimes.
Why didn't you just like go to like a donkey
and get a like a cheap ass pillow?
Yeah, pretty should have done that.
Yeah, yeah.
Didn't have much time.
Yeah, I'm gonna out myself for a bit.
I didn't sleep on the RV.
Yeah, he didn't.
Okay, I think, okay, I-emergeon ruined.
Immersion, I know, I know.
So I got there on the third day.
And I remember like I had a fucking mission
getting to the RV on like the first day itself.
And I remember, you know, at the end of the third day,
everyone was fucking knackered.
And you could tell, right?
You can tell the difference between, you know,
Dylas and Pete, who I would say have been creating content
for like a less, a shorter amount of time than I have.
Because I'm like, when the cameras are off,
I'm like, okay, we need to do a shoot tomorrow.
I need to be well rested.
They were being great mates and they'll be like,
oh, let's do the RV experience.
It's, you know, we're fine with it.
We don't need the pillow.
I got there and I remember asking,
So where am I sleeping?
And they told me where I'm sleeping
and I measured it out.
I'm like, I can't even,
I was the tallest one.
So I was like, I can't even lay flat, you know?
And I was like, do we have a pillow?
And they were like, no.
So I was like in my head, I was planning out.
Okay, am I, am I, how am I gonna,
how am I gonna sleep?
Am I gonna like take my coat out,
use that as a pillow?
Luckily, there was a, that was the day
where there was like an extra like two beds
that they had booked for that day.
Every day I booked like a,
a, well, an extra, a bunch of extra beds
in the hotel or whatever,
just because it was like, all right,
if somebody wants to, I'm not gonna be like,
you have to sleep in the RV.
I'm like, I'll do it,
because I feel like it's my thing and I should.
Yeah, but anyone else, I'm like, fuck it,
go sleep in the hotel.
Yeah, yeah, so, you know,
after the cameras had rolled off,
it was like, you know, 10.30 or something,
the staff were like, everyone's knackered,
the staff were like, all right, last call,
is anyone going to sleep in the hotel?
This is your last chance.
And I turn over to like, Pete and Ditis was like,
are you gonna take the,
bed and they were like, nah, man, we gotta stay here, we gotta stay here. Pete, you stay,
you take it to bed? Nah, I gotta stay here, man. I'm like, I'll be honest, guys. I kind of
wanna sleep in a bed tonight and we're on camera tomorrow for like 13 hours. So you just,
I'm gonna take the bed, man. I've had enough shoots in my life that, uh, because here's the thing,
I remember when I first started like doing IRL content, you know, I really wanted to get involved
and immersed and now like how many years after trash taste, I'm like, I just want a good night sleep
if I know I'm making content.
You can say that because you've experienced
the trash taste road trip.
Oh yeah, that's that where like that gave me
so much knowledge into just how important
a good night's sleep is.
Holy shit, I think it was because of the trash taste road trip
where I was like, I'm gonna be real Connor.
I want to bed tonight, you know.
No, we were like, yeah, go, just go.
We're like, get out of here.
Understandable, have a good night.
I mean, I would have done it
if there was no option available,
because that's why I signed up for,
but I was like, if the option's available,
I'm gonna take it, man, I'm gonna take it.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, okay?
Yes, I'm weak-willed, okay, yes, I know, I know, okay.
It's fine, it didn't have to.
I think what's important that you're on the stream.
Yeah, yeah, exactly, right.
But it was fun, yeah, it was great.
It was a ton of planning, a shit ton of planning
to get it all to do,
because we had to find, like, activities to do every day.
Yeah, that was cool and would be interesting,
and we had to make sure that we could get signal,
and if we didn't, we had to figure out the solutions.
I like, yeah, because I wanted to stream it in basically 4K.
So, because Twitch doesn't let you stream in 4K
because it's terrible in that sense and doesn't let you do it.
And I've complained so many times.
I'm like, Twitch, please let me stream 4K.
But they say no.
So, but you can like still stream in 4K
and then downsample to 1080P and it still looks great.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I really wanted to test out this 4K equipment
and test out a camera with a better microphone
to really try and make the IRS stuff feel more,
what's the word, upscale.
Yeah, I don't know, like more production.
Higher quality.
Yeah, yeah, like it feels more like a TV show
where the camera doesn't stop rolling.
For sure, yeah.
Yeah, which has its benefits and have its downsides.
But, and, you know, it seemed pretty possible.
You just need a fuck ton of internet and good internet
because you need to, you need like five to four times
the bandwidth of a normal IRL stream.
Yeah, for a 4K stream.
So it's a lot, a lot more,
stuff going on. Right. And it breaks way more often. So I, you know, I kind of, kind of was looking
around. I started asking a bunch of people who knew all this stuff better than me. I was like,
what camera is the best for this? Also, how do I do this? And how do I literally do everything?
So you go and ask someone like, hey, what camera do I use? Then you'd be like, you go to the guy
who knows how the, all the software works. Like, hey, well, this camera work with this? This guy
told me to get this camera. He's like, yeah, I mean, theoretically. And then, and then I need to,
dude, there was so many, so many little things that went wrong before I even started the RV
trip where I was like, I don't even know if this is going to make sense. Like,
This new thing came out.
Basically, like, all streamers have like two ways
of broadcasting.
There's these two, like, boxes.
There's like a more cheaper, more custom one
that's harder to use.
But the benefit is that you don't have
to pay like a monthly subscription.
And then the one that most people use
is this one that you pay a monthly subscription for.
And it's a bit more expensive
and has less kind of, what's the word,
like customization.
And that company that one brought out
a bigger one that could do 4K,
So I was like, okay, this is, let's do it, let's do it.
Yeah. And then it turned out like, to get it to work,
you need to do a bunch of weird stuff that was like, what?
And then you, and then you connect two modems
to one USB thing.
Yeah. How do you connect two modems to one USB?
We need a USB splitter.
Yeah. And then that doesn't work for some reason.
And then I asked the company had to get them,
I had to like, hey, how do I get this to work?
Because in the guide it says you can do this, like,
oh, no, no, you need a, you need a specific cable
that isn't released yet.
And I'm like, what?
What?
What?
But then they were like, oh, we can send you some though.
And I was like, oh, cool, but like, how was I supposed to know this?
Yeah.
So luckily they sent me those and they arrived in time.
Yeah.
This whole fucking headache.
This would be even before we even planned what we're doing,
getting the RV, getting, how are we gonna film this thing?
How are we gonna do it?
Basically headache after headache.
Yeah.
We got it to work though.
And it looked pretty damn good, I think, for most part.
Yeah.
Like we had to get creative with some solutions.
So we even bought like a Starlink internet,
which- Fucking hell.
And to get that to work remotely,
we had to, I bought like a job
giant power generator thing.
Like, uh, he, he wore like the final form of that, man.
Oh, it's like a, it's a, it's a, it's a,
it's a, like a giant, giant battery that you charge and it takes hours.
It's basically just a generator at this point.
Right, right.
And then you basically like, we only, we only had to, luckily,
thank God, we only had to use it like once or twice,
because it could get like way better internet than any of the cell phone towers could give us.
Yeah. But it's just like, you know, you're trying to stream and then you're like, all right, what's,
the internet, oh, I got it, shit.
And then you're on camera, like, okay, okay.
And then you're like, can we, can we get the thing out?
Can we, we go get it all up?
And it's like, you're just juggling so many things
and you're constantly checking all the text working.
And then there's other stuff like there's a,
we have the tracker on the map that shows you where I am,
but I have to do that as well.
So it's like you're juggling just like 5,000.
This is why like, as much as I want to try more IRL streams,
I'm just so scared to because I do not want to deal with that stress.
Yeah.
It sounds like a fucking nightmare.
Well, you can just hire me now.
And I'll do it for you.
Can I get a maid rate?
We get a mate rate going.
Yeah, I mean, and it sucks.
It's like I try to show these guys how it all works
and like people who I bring along,
but it's so tough to explain to people
how a lot of the stuff works
and if it breaks how to fix it.
Yeah, yeah.
So it's still like if something breaks, more than not,
it's like, all right guys, gone, entertain,
I'm gonna go and fix everything real quick.
And it's very frustrating, but I think it's worth it
in the long run.
Like it's a ton of stress and it's a ton of anxiety
about if it's working.
But I think the results speak for themselves.
It looked at,
What activities did you do?
Oh, I should have even mentioned.
I'm just too busy talking about the tech.
Yeah.
That's the part I spent so much time on.
Yeah, I forgot.
Everyone's like, but the dolphins though, the dolphins!
Yeah, we went, so day one we did,
so we started in, we picked up the RV in Shin Osaka,
which is the bullet train stop in Osaka.
We drove to Awaji, and then we started there.
And so day one was just all of Oaji Island,
which is beautiful.
It's a stunning island that connects
mainland Japan, Tishokoku, and it's also a wild
And it's also a weird fucking island.
It's weird.
They have so much touristy stuff though.
Like if you're a tourist, you shouldn't sleep
on Oaji Island, it's so cool.
They have so much support for English-speaking tourists as well.
And they have a shit ton of stuff.
So much anime stuff on Oaji Island as well.
Yeah, they have the Naruto theme park
and the Hello Kitty Hotel, I think.
Yeah.
That's all there.
Yeah.
So much stuff.
So much stuff.
Yeah.
You know, one of the biggest challenges of doing IRL
normally is getting permission.
Yeah.
And we had such a big rig.
there was no way we could like, you know,
kind of go in and sneak around.
Yeah, yeah.
Not even sneak around, but like hope
that it would just kind of be okay.
Like we had such a big rig that like,
we had to get in contact with everywhere
and arrange everything beforehand.
Still a career, isn't it now?
Yeah.
Right, right?
Apparently I should go to fucking career.
Yeah.
Like that's what I should have been doing.
But luckily, like, everything we got permission for
and it was all chill and it was great.
So day one, we did, um, we, uh,
did a Zen experience in this like Bond villain
headquarters.
Conveniently, that's not a day I was there.
So, you know, Pete got the dub on that one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We had like fun, we kind of made a fun challenge out of everything.
Yeah.
And it was like, dude, this thing was sick.
You guys would love, you guys would love it.
Yeah.
It was literally just this wooden,
a beautiful wooden structure that just extends over this view
of like a bunch of trees and a bunch of landscapes,
Nauaji.
And you can just meditate with a professional,
I guess, Zen master.
Oh, that's, wasn't it the women that was there?
There was a Thai woman.
Yeah, because I saw the clip of like the women introducing you
and I was like, I think I hear a Thai accent.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wouldn't surprise me.
I think his name was Bilal.
Was it Bilal?
No, the guy who the, yeah, Bilal who is from Virginia,
who trained with, you know, the most Zen place on the land.
I think like masters of meditation in Japan,
but I think they're originally from India,
but so he learned everything in Japanese.
Oh, right.
I think an Indian guy.
I think so.
Oh, yeah, not sure again.
But he basically just, you know, went through it
and he was awesome.
He was up for the banter,
even though we were kind of, you know,
trying to make a joke or two while meditating.
It was so much fun, it was great.
And then we went to do, uh, koara tiles,
which we'd done before.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but then I beat my record
and I beat their local record in that show.
Oh yeah.
I saw that clip, man.
Yeah.
That was so fun.
That place was great.
They, they, they had costumes.
It was literally like this, this like John Wick or kind of,
it was so reminiscent of like martial arts,
fight scenes, the bottom floor of this building.
It was literally just a factory.
But it looked like a set piece of like,
like an old boy or something.
Yeah, like a factory.
Because it looked like, it didn't look like a real factory.
It looked like a factory in a movie.
Yeah. And then just above this factory was a Kawara experience
where you go and smash them.
Hell yeah.
And I managed to break 34 tiles.
Hey.
Which is fucking insane.
I didn't think I could do it.
And I was like, oh wow.
Did you like kind of build yourself up to that?
Yeah, we did 20 and we'd been there for about two
I think at that point, we were kind of like,
alright, we should wrap it up.
And I thought, just for fun, let's just go to 34,
because we were going up by five.
And I was like, just add 14.
Because the record was 33.
Right. And I was like, fuck it, I'll beat it.
But obviously, I didn't think I was gonna beat it,
but I thought it'd be visually pretty funny for the street.
Yeah, yeah, somehow smashed it.
Yeah, you got it.
It was the Bruce Lee costume, man.
That gave you the power.
Yeah, it was the Bruce Lee costume.
And then, yeah, did it and that was fun.
And then we did like barbecueing.
And then day two, we went from,
Awaji Island all the way over to Shokoku,
the northern part, and then went to Okayama,
just above Okama camp there for the night.
Oh, so you went through the Setonai,
like, driving trail that we did the cycling special?
Go through that side or, oh no, you were on the Orkama side.
Right, right, right.
And we drove past like Takamatsu and go,
it's up, and that's what we did, like, dolphin training
and dolphin swimming.
And the dolphins.
They're so cute.
They're so cute.
Dude, and all the staff was so kind,
and they were so nice, you know,
and it seemed like they really were,
like obsessed with the doodafins.
It seemed like they really loved it.
Yeah.
It was fun, man.
Damn, dolphins are fucking crazy.
Did they, did they meet the hype?
The dolphin hype?
I'm still, I'm still precarious about dolphins.
Right, right, right.
But I think we've talked to Malin one too many times.
Yeah, Maylian's gonna be scared of dolphins.
They were cute though.
They were cute.
They're so incredibly smart though.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, I've pretty sure they were smarter than me.
When I was there, I was like,
it's not a high bar, but yeah.
I had to sit the bottom right.
Monkey versus dolphin, right?
But they were cute.
I'm very impressive, very intelligent creatures.
Yeah.
Yeah, and it was nice.
And the, uh, that whole area was really cool.
Like, like.
Because I've, like, like rubber.
Really?
They look like they made a rubber.
Yeah, they're like rub.
They feel like rubber.
Honestly, like smooth rubber.
I don't know how to describe it.
It's a very, very odd.
Yeah, yeah.
Like a wet rubber.
Yeah.
And that was so cool to stream
because the clips of it look awesome.
Like the, the, the,
the quality of it.
of it considering we're just on a pier in the ocean.
Yeah.
We're pretty far out from the coast.
Yeah.
And it's really cool.
Like, it looks awesome.
Yeah.
And again, I just, my whole thing is that like,
originally for me, this whole,
which sounds so weird to say,
like this whole RV's trip was kind of like a test in my mind
to see if this could work.
And, you know, now that I see that it went really well,
I kind of want to try and do it again,
maybe bigger and see how I can improve it.
Yeah.
Make it more easy on everyone involved as well.
Yeah.
It's not exhausted all the time.
But yeah, the door.
The dolphin thing was great that day.
And they taught us about dolphins.
They gave us a little quiz about how to.
What did you learn?
How to tell between a male and a female dolphin.
Didn't know that.
Oh, okay.
Didn't know that.
So the one that has the massive cork is the male.
They have more lines, I guess, or spaces
where maybe baby dolphins would come out of
and where they would do the deeds.
Right.
That's the difference, I found out.
They told us not to put trash in the ocean.
Been doing that anyway.
I've been on a good run with that.
Yeah, yeah.
And then we went to a, went to this open air theater
near the Dolphin Place.
And dude, this, this open air theater is sick.
As in like, what, like a driving theater or something?
What's the official, what's the actual name?
Ampe theater, yeah.
Oh, okay.
It's like, and if you, it's like this stunning theater
and it's behind it is the ocean.
Oh, wow.
And then if you stand in this one specific spot,
your voice like completely resonates
so loudly that it's like a megaphone,
but you're just talking,
but only in this one specific spot,
you have to stand there,
if you, and you move one step and then you sound normal,
and you step in this exact spot,
and it's like, boom.
It's like, it's like, it's like,
absolutely like, it's insane.
Physics. Yeah, it's like, what the fuck?
How? How do they do that?
I didn't, I know it's physics,
but like it was so impressive, just the volume difference.
Yeah, yeah.
It blew my mind and we had a little talent show there,
went really well,
won the talent show because of course he digs.
He's so talented.
Of course he did.
That doesn't surprise me.
Yeah.
And then we had a, we had a barbecue
while it was snowing in the middle of nowhere
where Garnt eventually came and joined us
like 1 a.m. after the stream ended.
Yeah.
But we were in the middle of, I don't even know,
we didn't even use a Starlink that night,
but we had really good signal
in the middle of the mountains,
in no city.
We were like an hour away from any city.
I have no idea how we had any signal.
One thing that surprised me on the road trip was
you, you know, when you're constantly on the air,
sometimes you go to a point is open road,
can't nothing to block the signal
and it just like loses connection.
Yeah. And then you go in like a mile long tunnel
and it's just like perfect signal all the way through.
And I'm like, what a-
It's so random, man.
How does this work? I should know
because I'm an electronic engineer,
but I'm just like, how are we having signal right now?
It's cell phone towers, you're close,
and also depends on which provider they are,
and which sims I have.
Right.
But I have multiple different sims that do,
should cover everything, but it really depends.
Certain areas should have just nothing.
Yeah.
But the first day was pretty tough, I think.
There was not a lot on Awaji, surprisingly.
And the third day we did, which Grant joined us for,
we did golf.
Golf, we went into a driving range.
And I, like, this was the first time I'd been on a driving range
or, like, picked up a golf club since I was, I think, like, 18, 17.
It was fun.
It's so much fun.
I told you.
Oh, God.
I've been telling you, boys, that we should go to golf.
I missed it so much.
I missed it so goddamn much.
It's not until you hit the driving range
where you're like, why is this fun?
Yeah. So yeah, we did that and we did a competition
to see who could hit it the furthest.
Yeah, I won. You won? You won?
I got one very good shot.
That's all you need, man.
Dude, it was so fun. I wanna go driving range more.
Yeah, I'm down. And then we did, what else did we do that day?
We did sand surfing. Yeah, we're in sand surfing, Totori.
Yeah, totally. That was fun.
We went back to the ghost town that is Totori.
I drove past the industrial area, and we went,
Like, don't look at that, don't look at that.
All right, look at the sand dunes.
Yeah.
Which I think looked even more like the weather conditions
and just the color,
what looked even better than when we went there
on our road trip special.
Well, because the cameras we were using
for this live stream were better than the cameras
we filmed the road trip fashion.
Right.
So it looks like, it looks better live, which is insane.
Yeah. And I didn't, I also didn't know
if Totteri was gonna have internet.
Yeah. But yeah, Totori is great internet as well.
So fun fact, there you go.
How does that work? I don't know.
So we're in the, it looks insane on the stream.
We're just in the,
in the middle of a desert streaming.
Yeah.
It's just like, what the fuck?
And then we're going down these hills
and it looks great.
Dude, it looks so underwhelming on camera,
but it was kind of scary going down these
because you're going pretty fast and send.
I mean, I didn't fall, so I can't.
Yeah.
Oh, it probably hurts way more snow.
I imagine you fell on your wrist right.
I fell on my wrist once.
Okay, so I'll say it right now.
Sand surfing.
It's kind of mad.
It was kind of a man experience.
Yeah, because you, you just go down
and you can't do hills that are super crazy,
because I guess if you get too fast,
falling would be pretty dangerous.
And you can't turn either.
We weren't given any instructions.
So how I described it,
sand surfing was basically felt like a tutorial level
for snowboarding because I remember.
With bigger consequences.
Yeah, basically you fall, it hurts a little bit more.
But essentially you go up to the hill.
And I remember we had an instructor there
and I was preparing myself for the instructions to start.
And the instructions to start.
And the instructions were, so don't fall.
Yeah, yeah, that was little.
That was like, don't try to turn.
You're just going straight, just don't fall.
And that was the instructions.
And he was like, okay, go.
You might as well have just been on a sled then
at that point.
That would have been no different.
He told us before we started, he was like,
if you think this is gonna be like snowboarding,
you're gonna fail.
Yeah.
And I was like, how gonna be?
It wasn't that hard actually.
He was capping.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You just have to balance the same way.
Yeah, yeah.
But also all he said was,
He also said it might be too hard,
so he brought sleds as well,
which was kind of worrying,
because I was like, uh oh, that's not good,
too hard, is someone gonna hurt themselves?
So he just gave us a helmet, he said,
bend your knees and then just go.
That was all.
Yeah, wow, what great instructions.
He pushed us, yeah.
Yeah, and then he goes, oh, by the way,
10 year olds can do this.
Like rub it in.
What an asshole.
Yeah, but they were already nice.
They were really nice.
But yeah, I mean, it was kind of,
like I said, it was kind of like snowboarding,
except you couldn't do anything but go straight.
So essentially you just kind of had to learn
how to balance going down a hill pretty fast.
And I'd forgotten, like it's been a once
to the last snowboarded, and I'd forgotten basically
everything I got told when I first started snowboarding.
I remember going slow-boid snowboarding
for the first time with the boys
and the first thing they told me was when you fall,
don't put your hands out, you gotta put your hands in.
And I, for some reason, my mind was just like,
Sands different.
Sounds totally different.
I'll go straight through it.
Sand is totally different than snow.
I don't have to worry about sand.
And the first time I fell, I put my hand out.
And it wasn't even like that big of a fall.
I was going nowhere near as fast as I was going
when I was like snowboarding.
But I just had like a little bit and my wrist,
hit my wrist and I was, I had that immediate moment
where I was like, oh, that felt bad.
That felt bad.
I was like, okay, it's not broken.
I might have sprained it.
Luckily I didn't sprain it,
but had a big wake-up call.
Very, very fast.
falling on sand surfing, the fall,
it might not be as hard as snowboarding,
but the fall definitely hurts more.
And luckily, I wasn't the one who ate the most shit,
probably Didis did.
Oh my God, I felt so bad.
Yeah.
Didas, he would nail it going down,
and the moment, like, the hill went from this
to kind of like this, he just kind of lost his balance
every time and face planted.
I felt so bad for him, he just kept getting beaten up.
Jesus Christ.
He had a few balls that looked pretty painful.
Oh my God.
But he powered through it.
He's a tank.
Trooper.
It was fun, but it was kind of like,
it was very much like, oh, that's it.
Yeah.
Like, it was like, oh, that's what we could do.
Yeah.
I feel like-
I kinda sucks.
I mean, it was, it was definitely,
I think it was still like a fun place to check out.
And it, and it, I think it was like,
we hit like every kind of scenery.
Like we went from like beautiful, stunning green islands
to snow to desert and then back to Osaka.
It was kind of like, it covered everything.
And then we did that and then we played video,
not video games, we played games in the RV,
which is really fun actually.
Yeah.
Break the ice is a great game.
Yeah, you kinda introduce me to break the ice.
You've played this game?
No.
It's like a little thing where it's like a penguin
in the middle and a bunch of hexagons.
Yes, I have played this.
And then you're like, do, do, do, do, yeah, yeah,
it's so good.
It's such a good game when everyone's kind of hype
and ready and you have like punishments and yeah,
it was so good.
It's kind of like that mini game from four guys,
the one with the hexagons.
Except you have to hit them.
Yeah.
But you have to hit them off.
It's such a good clip from it.
And it was just a fun, it was such a good fun,
like, board game.
I think as much as like you guys did these like amazing things
on the RV strip, I think my favorite clip
to be both out of it was when you asked Ditis what myelo.
He got him good, he got him good.
It was so, it was, it looked scripted.
That's how perfect it was.
Because he was so sincere about it.
It was like, what's my loan?
I thank you to the guy in Australia who got us with that
because that's, that, that was trained us to get someone else.
It's our new favorite.
Yeah, it's my new favorite.
As a Southeast Asian, that's my new favorite.
Because we fucking love Milo in Southeast Asia.
You know, that's our chocolate of choice.
You don't like it?
No, no, oh yeah, I said, oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Navi off screen just went, oh, yeah, and I was like, what?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Is it much better than Nesquick or is it?
Oh, hell yeah.
Hell yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Australia's the same.
Yeah, yeah.
It's so, it was good, because it was like,
there was a lot of good clips in the car,
and, you know,
It's more of a podcast when it's in the car
and it's back to the activities.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The board games are really fun.
That was one of my favorite aspect to it.
Yeah, just playing dumb board games
and just everyone, everyone has their own rules to everything.
That's what I'm saying, man, we gotta do more board games.
Jenga is just like, what are the rules of Jenga?
Cause we just kind of like made it up as we go.
There's like a million loads.
The only rule that was sacred was top three layers,
can't touch top three.
Yeah, that's the only sacred rule.
You have to move it.
It was the one that we play.
Yeah, and you have to use one hand only,
right?
That's another rule.
But I don't know if it's an official rule.
I swear people just make up rules for Jenga.
Be like, yeah, let's just make it a billion times harder
than it actually supposed to be.
Yeah, like, we had this one moment where I swear this isn't allowed,
but we have to run with the one hand thing.
Yeah.
And Connor used his one hand to basically change
the entire structural integrity of this tower.
It went from like a Jenga tower
to the leaning tower of Pisa,
and he was just like, he was just like,
I was getting it out my finger while kind of holding
the rest of the time.
He can't do that.
Yeah, I was saying,
This looks so illegal right now.
Because it was like, what sucked is that we were like four turns in
and this one block wouldn't move.
That's the point.
And I was like, are we really gonna end this game
in four turns? That's so boring.
Yeah, but how is that any different
to like grabbing it with one
and then using your other hand
to just hold the entire thing in place, right?
I mean like, honestly,
Django should always get to that point in my mind
where like you holding it makes no difference to like,
like if I, like it gets to the point
where me holding it is, you're gonna make it worse.
You know what I mean?
because it gets so fucked the tower.
It's like, holding it is actually a disadvantage.
I don't know, this is me.
Maybe I'm, maybe I'm trolling, I've heard it wrong.
House rules, house rules.
And it was like snowing outside
and we had the, we had the,
because the connection was kind of mad.
We had like the Starlink on a table outside of the van
connected to this generator, and then we were just using that internet
and that was like saving the streaming way better.
Because we, again, we were in the middle of nowhere again,
and that saved it.
And then the last day we did airsoft.
So that was so much fun.
That was my first time airsofting.
Yeah, me too.
That lived up to the hype.
I wanna go again now.
Like, it was fun.
I actually, I think I found it funer than paintballing.
Yeah, well, it hurts a little less.
It hurts a little less and the guns just look cooler as well.
Yeah.
You know, like reloading a airsoft gun actually feels like,
you know, more similar to reloading a real gun
rather than just fucking like pouring a bunch of paintballs
into the gun.
Yeah, that was fun.
We did, we were like, again, we had to like move the Starlink around
to get internet because the bit rate was terrible there.
It was such bad internet.
Because obviously it's an airsoft field, it's in the middle of nowhere.
Right.
Yeah.
Got shot on the neck three times.
Oh yeah, I see that.
Yeah, I got shot on my head as well.
Looks like I got bitten by a vampire actually.
Hey, you guys said it hurts less than a painful?
It does hurt less than a pain.
I mean, this one fucking hurt.
This one clock me in the forehand.
There's one red dot on Connor's forehead
that I did, unfortunately.
That was the kill camera.
Most of them are fine.
They're like little stings, but like, yeah,
if you get hit in the head or the neck,
I feel like that's where it fucking ends.
My legs hurt so much because we were in a course
where it was just like a bunch of like parts cars,
you know, it was like the car park kind of area.
First thing Dider says was like, oh, I thought these were real cars
so I tried not to like shoot them.
And they had broken windows and shit.
But unfortunately, be, do you remember that?
Yeah, I couldn't have.
I believe you said.
Average car park in Maine.
Average Ohio car park, right?
But yeah, like, unfortunately being tall
was a huge disadvantage in this one,
because if I just, like, poked,
if I just poked my head out, I would instantly get a headshot.
It was actually really easy to be quite accurate
on the, on the airsoft.
It was like, surprisingly accurate, because-
Yeah, because I got a few head shots from, like,
a distance, you got so many shots from distance as well.
Yeah, I got a lot of head shots from distance.
Especially on Didas.
That's not a FPEA.
FBS player advantage.
FBS player advantage.
Because I realize like when you're aiming it,
like obviously I'm not like cracked at aiming airsoft
because I haven't played it,
but like you shoot and unlike paintball,
the airsoft ball, it always goes the exact same like trajectory.
Yeah.
So all you do is like do do do and you can see where it's going
and then just kick like readjusting.
And then you can pretty much get it so that like
if they poke their head at all, you can just get them.
Yeah, right, right.
And you can just slightly adjust.
So I just kept doing that and I kept getting Didasat.
I felt so bad.
I tried them so many times.
Next time I see him, his face is just gonna be like, fuck.
Well, luckily he was around a big, he was run a thick hat,
so like his face was totally covered.
Yeah.
He had the one that covered his ears too, so it was like, he was fine.
He was ready.
Yeah, it was really fun.
And we had like, unfortunately the camera had to go around with us
and he would get shot sometimes.
Because he was just gone around.
It looked awesome.
It looked like an FPS thing.
And again, it was like great quality, like 4K
in the middle of nowhere.
And then we changed POVs where he,
there was an area where you could go above
and you could look down.
Oh wow.
So it was like, it was kind of like bird eye view
of the whole thing happening.
Like no clipping.
Yeah, it was like such a cool stream
and we had such fun with it and we just, it was great.
We had this one game where I just could not find Pete
and Pete just, Pete clipped into another map, right?
There was like this indoor, this indoor stage, right?
That was like very, like very narrow corridors.
And Pete spent like whole five minutes in this outdoor map
and he didn't even know he was in a different map.
We didn't know he was in a different area.
Like we didn't know that.
Bro,
clipped out to a different fucking stage, man.
But yeah, like, it hurts a lot less than painball.
Like, paintball, I feel like you can still very,
like, even if you're wearing like thick clothes,
you can still kind of feel it.
Oh, yeah.
This one, unless you get shot, like, directly on the skin,
it doesn't, it doesn't really hurt that much.
Yeah.
Have you been paintballing before?
I've been paintballing before.
I've never been airsofting.
Right.
And I've been shot directly with a paintball before.
And sounds like a very Aussie thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
As punishment for whoever got the least amount of points,
you have to get shot directly in the stomach
with a paintball.
And I had that a couple of times
and I was left with like literal holes in my stomach.
The bruises you get from paintballing.
Oh, it hurts so much.
Holy shit.
Paintballing feels more like you're just trying
to avoid getting killed.
And ESOF felt more kind of,
because it didn't hurt as much,
you kind of felt more fun.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
But yeah, I mean, I do enjoy that adrenaline aspect of paintball
where you're like,
I just don't want to get shot.
Paintball is like Valerant and Airsoft is more like Cod, I would say.
Yeah, right.
Because you do not want to get shot in paintball.
You know, you're like, it's one short kill.
If I'm getting shot, I'm fucking out, man.
But with Airsoft, you're like, I can run.
I can run this, I can run and go.
Fort two circles.
Yeah, you were just right around corners
because you knew that if you got shot,
it wasn't like the end of the world.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But paintball, it's like, well,
I'm gonna have a bruise if I get shot.
So I have to actually like,
think about what's happening.
Man, yeah, no, I was such a fun,
RV stream then we just drove back and ended it.
And that was like 40 hours of streaming.
Hell yeah.
How's it being live for like that long?
Um, it's okay for me.
I mean, he's done sub-a-thons before.
So I'm okay with it, but like, man,
doing it and driving is tough.
Like driving is taxing mentally anyway.
And then trying to also be like conversing
while driving is hard.
Yeah.
Which is why it's great to have, you know,
you and Pete and died.
Yeah, the real question was,
how was it for you?
because you're probably not used to that.
I was actually like pretty fine with it.
I thought you've gotten really good at it.
I think after the 24 hour charity stream we did,
that was like hard mode for me
and then everything afterwards was pretty like pretty easy
because I remember like I think Ditis and Pete,
they were telling me like the second day was like tough
to like make sure there was no dead air, dead air anytime
for like 13 hours, right?
Yeah.
So like they were really happy.
I tried to like put as much with the pressure
off as possible.
Um, but yeah, it's just kind of, like I said,
after you like survive 24 hours with sleep deprivation
and just like constantly talking,
I feel like anything, anything's possible.
Yeah, anything's possible afterwards.
That's fair.
But yeah, I wouldn't wanna do when I'm driving
because I wanna be zoned out when I'm driving, you know?
Yeah, yeah, I mean, especially when I,
cause I, you know, that's my first time
of driving a car that big.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, I think that's literally like the limit
of what the license allows in Japan.
Anything after that is just a truck.
Anything after that, I'd have to get a different license.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because even like certain RVs I can't drive.
Like I have to drive the smaller RVs
and the lighter ones.
Right.
Because I wanted to get a different RV initially,
but it was slightly too heavy.
So I had to get this one.
Which is fine, but it was really fun to drive it.
Like it was, because the difference between like a car
and an RV is an RV, you're kind of like deeper,
way more forward in the RV.
So you're like, there's pretty much no distance
between your feet and where the car ends.
So you can really clearly see where the car.
is like everywhere.
Whereas like with a long, with a normal car
that's kind of like got a bigger front,
it's like sometimes it's way harder to figure out
where the fuck the front of the car is.
Yeah. Especially like the that corner,
or I guess food America would be that corner.
So I don't know words.
But it was fun though,
because you get like this panoramic view of the road
because you have these giant windows
to all sides of you that you can see.
Yeah, yeah.
And this giant mirrors and this the dash can,
the yeah, the behind you cam, like the rear view cam
is like on this big screen
It's really fun to drive.
Yeah.
Scary on some roads, but I got,
I think I got pretty good at driving it by the end.
Yeah.
I knew how to-
You looked like a proper trucker.
Yeah.
You had fully, fully embraced that role.
It was fun.
I was impressed.
I just needed the hat.
I had a trucker hat.
Yeah, you had the trucker had,
you need the red ball and a pack of cigarettes.
And one of my favorite, like,
out of context screenshots was like,
was like, it was when Connor was driving
and this, the stream had glitched.
So it looked like he just removed his chin.
So it just gave Connor like a fucking leafy chin way
it was just like no chin Connor.
Trucker Connor.
Trak Connor Connor.
Sadge.
Yeah, that was my favorite outer context clip.
But I'd say congratulations.
Yeah, man.
Thank you, thank you.
Appreciate it.
Very, very, very well.
Good on you, man.
Thank you.
I'll probably do another one at some point in the future.
I'll probably figure out how to make it better.
Yeah, for sure.
There's definitely ways it can be improved.
Well, what do you think about
you can improve it.
I think having either another additional person
during the whole time or rotate out more people
is definitely a way to kind of make
so that everyone can be more energetic
because it's demanding.
Like 13 hours every day.
It's pretty tough for most people.
Even like streamers, especially when you're doing stuff
outdoors as well and you're actually getting physical.
It can be pretty demanding.
Probably, I don't know, maybe,
I feel like I'd have to stay in the RV,
but I wouldn't make other people stay in the RV.
I feel like just stay in a hotel is so much better.
Because also like showering was annoying.
Like getting- Oh yeah, hot water was a commodity.
Yeah, I don't think we had, we had no hot water
like any time, like all the campsites had freezing water.
Yeah, it was just so cold, it sucked so much.
Definitely gotta find someone who maybe understands the bag
and the streaming stuff more.
So you're not the only tag-a-.
Well, because it's like, you know, we start the,
like the morning prep is like, I wake up,
I have to get all this bag stuff ready and stuff,
and it's like, well, man, I,
I wish I could just shower, turn on the camera,
and we're going, right?
But it's like I have to get it all ready.
You have to make sure everything's charged,
make sure it's all working.
And then when you go to bed, when the stream ends,
sorry, I have to unplug everything,
make sure everything, everyone knows what to charge what
and just get everything ready
before I can start going to bed.
So it's kind of tough.
I'm just trying to think of how I can make it better.
But it was really fun, really successful.
I wanna do it again.
Hell yeah.
Yeah, you guys got any plans coming up?
No.
No plans?
Nothing.
Well, I have a, I'm doing the cycling thing again.
Yeah, when you're announcing that,
By the time this episode is out,
are you going to have announced that?
I think it'll be done.
No, it'll be like basically done.
Oh shit.
I think it'll be like, I think,
because this is like a-
Tell us all about it.
It's like a month from now, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, this is like coming out halfway,
I think like near the end of it.
Yeah. Okay.
So I'm doing another one of those.
Yeah, because I remember you saying
we finished the RV trip and Connor's like,
yeah, okay, time to start planning my next event
and I was like, fuck it, fuck it all, Connor.
Calm the fuck down.
Stay inside for a bit, play some video,
games, man.
Stop touching grass.
Yeah.
I wanna go aside more.
Too much grass, man.
Too much grass.
I wanna go outside, man.
You're an outdoorsy person now?
Oh no, I just, yeah, I like going outside and doing things.
Yeah.
Also, it could be like disgusting.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, I also wanna do more things for charity as well this year.
And that's one thing I really wanna do.
And I hopefully have another event in future
that we can do for charity.
Yeah.
I just wanna do more cool things.
Like I'm not really interested about,
I don't know, working from,
working in my stream set up and doing that a bunch.
Because I still wanna do that,
but I think my real passion is just trying to do fun things
and how can I make it engaging?
Yeah, I'm very, very excited
because by the time this episode's out,
I'm gonna be back in Thailand.
That wasn't like, I didn't originally plan for that,
but I think after, you know,
after our last trip where we all went to Thailand
and we were only there for a week,
I just, I didn't realize how much
I missed being back in like my home country.
I miss being in Thailand.
Holy shit.
I just wanted to like, I just wanted to,
because like when we last went back to Thailand,
it was like, you know, busy, busy, busy every single day.
Yeah.
We had something going on and it was, you know,
taking care of everyone coming and I was just like,
I just want to, I want to, last year was so fucking busy.
I just want a month where I could just chill out
and just maybe do nothing, but just enjoy the sun,
enjoy the nice weather and just fucking chill out.
And I was just like, I was thinking to myself,
how long has it been since I last had that?
I literally cannot remember since the beginning of trash.
I think.
I feel like even just like this year, January and February,
we've done more just these past two months than like six months last year.
Yeah, yeah.
It's just like I keep waking up and looking at my calendar.
I'm like, how is it still February?
It feels like I've been doing shit for like six months.
Yeah, yeah.
It's just so jam-packed.
But I mean, we do it to ourselves, so it's- Yeah,
exactly.
No one else to point.
I like being busy.
I do it too, but like it as well.
I also like relaxing.
I do, I don't know, it's weird.
Like I feel like I feel like, I'm not.
I enjoy, okay, question.
When you like work a lot, how much,
how many days or even a day or like,
how much time do you need to mentally kind of like,
have a reset?
Like per week or?
I try and give myself at least one or two days.
Like what's the ratio?
What's the ratio of like work to like break
that you can do?
Oh.
You guys are in sync.
Yeah.
That was like the brain cell firing up.
Yeah.
I don't know, for me, it's, it's weird, right?
Because I can, I have these like,
it's either one mindset or the other.
And I find it really hard to find a balancing middle ground.
I don't know if that makes any sense,
but there would be like entire months
where I'm like grinding every day,
I've got something going on every day.
And then like I've got this like kind of like, you know,
my mind's just like constantly busy, I gotta do something.
And then there have been points where I've had a week off,
and it's taken me just a few days
just to get used to having nothing to do.
But like once my mindset switches,
it also takes effort to get back
into like the grinding mindset as well.
The best analogy I could,
the best analogy I can think of is,
remember back in like university college days
where you had like exam season, right?
And every single day for like a month.
Oh yeah.
You'd be studying for exams or yeah, two months.
You'd be studying for exams
and you'd be taking exams
You'd just be, you know, every day you'd wake up,
open a textbook, studying to you sleep,
and just piss yourselves because you're like,
fuck, I'm gonna fill out this exam, right?
But I've gotta get this shit done.
And the only thing you could think of is,
I'm so fucking excited for when this is over,
I'm gonna do so much, I'm gonna do so fucking much.
You're like, every day, you open your book,
you look at your Steam library, and you're like, one day, one day.
That day when this exam over, I'm gonna get to you.
Just slowly caress your monitor.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm almost there.
And then you get to the last day.
You finish the exam, you're like, I'm fucking done.
Holy shit, I feel so good.
What do I do now?
Yeah.
Like that's my life now where it's like, I get, I have this like month where it's entirely booked out.
And then I get to the end of that month and which it's slowly coming up now because I
packed myself in February.
I gave myself some time off to chill out on Thailand.
And then I finished all my work.
And then I remember I was like,
I didn't know what I wanted to do.
So what I ended up doing was helping my mates actually.
So instead of taking a holiday,
I ended up helping Sydney film,
helping, helping Connor with his RV trip and everything.
And then I just realized I just ended up
filling up my schedule doing other things
instead of taking a break, which is why I felt like,
if I take a break, the country,
I need to leave the fucking country.
to actually stop myself.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, I can't do anything
if I'm in a different country, right?
That's the play.
It is the ultimate, like,
sorry, man, I'm busy.
Yeah.
Sorry, man, in a different country.
Yeah.
I don't know, man, I recently,
I'm pretty sure I said this and trust is right.
I bought this really fucking nice coffee machine.
It was way too much money,
but it's been...
But you've reached that age.
Now, you've reached that age
where, like, you're like,
my highlight right now is I bought a new coffee machine.
Dude, honestly, true.
And it's made my mornings so much...
Just to have...
I have a lovely ritual where I hit,
I put the beans in, I grind the beans,
and I just, it's so nice, it's so nice.
I steamed the milk myself as well, and I'm like,
dude, this is great.
And just, so like for me, I, now, like, just having,
if I have like a little, like,
lie and I say lying, but like,
if I can get like a nice little relaxing morning
where I can kind of have an hour and a half
to kind of chill out before I have to do something,
dude, that's like, I can reset like that.
That for me is enough, because then I get to,
to make this coffee,
I get to have a really nice chill,
morning and then I can start doing my stuff.
Yeah, I think it says a lot that, you know, after everything we've talked about,
after like all the exciting things you've done.
Off camera, like the most passionate I've ever seen Connor recently, it wasn't like
being excited for the RV trip or anything.
It's talking about his fucking coffee machine.
His coffee machine is my favorite.
Dude, I get it.
Like he, I remember comes to your house and you're like, yo, you got to see my coffee machine.
Try a bit of the coffee.
Come on.
Let me tell you about my mornings now.
We've literally gotten to that point because I recently bought like a new vacancy.
like a couple of days ago.
I got the latest Dyson one.
I've never been that excited in my life to use.
I'm like, oh, oh, this is, this is not.
I can try this as, oh, okay.
The green laser that shows you the shit on the floor.
The green laser and also has like the little monitor
on the back that shows you the different particles
that you've sucked up.
That's a thing?
So like the floor looks clean, but then this laser
when it points at the floor, shows you all the shit that's getting.
It's kind of scary.
And it gives you a percentage of like house dust
and like other specs.
Tell you what's in the shit.
Yeah, it tells you what's in the shit.
I'm like, oh, okay, I got a little bit more house-dust us today.
All right, let's go.
Do Dyson make some overpriced garbage, but I will say they're vacuums.
Very good.
Oh, yeah.
They should keep doing that.
Yeah.
I mean, it's great because I also get to like, I also get to like, go to like, I have a local coffee store in me that just does beans.
And I love going there.
Bones.
I love going there.
I love talking to the elderly couple that runs it and just saying like, man, you know, I like this beans that you guys.
You know, I like this beans that you gave me.
Yeah.
I like these ones.
It's nice.
It's like my whole experience.
And then I get excited to try the new blend that I bought.
Dude,
just like great.
It's like a nice like whole chain of just every part of it
makes me feel like more of an adult and more like,
I don't know, just taking care of myself.
Just having a nice coffee.
Even though now I probably drink an unhealthy amount of coffee.
Yeah.
More so.
It's hard because I have to, I have to pull back a little bit now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because like day one, dude, it was like, dude,
I had like nine coffees.
I couldn't stop.
It was so good.
It was so good.
You had nine coffees.
It must be high-balled.
It was pretty like exaggerating, sorry.
That's what drug addicts.
It was like five.
It was still too much.
It was like, you had five hits when I first tried a man.
I couldn't stop.
It was still too much.
It was a lot, but it was great.
And so now I'm trying to keep two a day.
Look at us, man.
Getting inside for coffee machines, wanting to go to a driving range again.
I think, you know, it's like, it's like,
I get it now.
Like, you know, because when people, you know,
that whole thing that people do sometimes,
there's always had that.
every time on the internet after like a few months
where like there'll be that article that's like,
uh, no, people, people aren't, uh, people aren't broke.
They're just spending it on the wrong things.
And it's like, dude, sometimes that little thing
makes someone so happy.
Oh yeah, it is.
Why would you say that stuff?
Like that, yes, people do frivolously spend on sometimes,
but sometimes you need those little things.
It is.
Like just get you through the day.
Like sometimes you have a rough day,
you've a rough schedule coming up,
you've got a packed work with you.
And just having that,
Maybe having that milkshake, having that McDonald's something.
Maybe buying that one silly thing you shouldn't have bought.
Just got you through the week.
I had that recently because I bought a fucking groove coaster controller.
Oh, okay, okay.
You were the king of buying useless shit.
All right, let's be real.
Let's be real.
You are that person, okay?
It made me so happy.
Joey will be the guy who's like,
I bought a giant trampoline and we're like,
Joe, you don't have a backyard.
He's like, I'll make it work.
I'll find a backyard that I can put it in.
Joey's like, I bought one out of 10,000 Pink Floyd signed out.
Yeah, I'm like, all right.
Dude, I wish.
Yeah.
I fucking wish.
Yeah, I ordered this fucking like custom made like groove coaster controller.
Yeah.
That like can connect to your computer just like simple USB.
You can also play it on the switch as well.
Have you done on stream yet?
Yeah.
Not on stream yet, but I've been playing it mostly off stream just because it makes me personally happy.
You gotta bring it on the stream, man.
I'll get to it eventually, but just every morning is.
It's just like a ritual now where I'm like,
I got an hour free, boom, just right on the desk,
for an hour.
That's my morning coffee.
That's my shot of caffeine in the morning.
Did you have like, did you have like a purchase?
Because I feel like we all had a pretty similar mindset
and I've pretty sure a lot of people have a similar mindset
where you know, in college, you couldn't imagine spending your money
on anything other than things that will help you survive.
Yeah.
Anything like if you need something outside of just, you know, video games.
I don't really count video games, you know,
because, you know, everyone buys video games.
Everyone needs some entertainment in their lives, you know.
Everyone has, I mean, it's integral to my survival.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, see, I feel like it's integral to my survival.
So is like a fucking Netflix subscription or whatever, right?
You know, or, you know, something, you know.
Outside of, you know, basic, you know, laptop, um, subscriptions or, like, video games.
and food comes after those, in fact.
Those, in university, those were more necessary to me
than having a nice meal.
I could buy a PS4 right now
or I could not eat top ramen for the next 10 miles.
Yeah, yeah.
PS4 sounding good.
Do you remember the first moment you realized
I have disposable income now?
What do I do with disposable income?
There's, and it's, yeah, I mean,
I think first time like,
I think any of us got like our first paychecks
from YouTube, right?
Being like, oh, oh no, for me it wasn't even YouTube.
For me, it was fucking the BBC.
Oh yeah, yeah.
Just realizing that I worked?
Oh, yeah, I worked.
Just to say this isn't a YouTuber conversation right now.
I remember getting that first check.
No, same with my other jobs as well, yeah.
Well, I was unemployed before that.
Yeah.
Actually, no, that's not true.
The first time I got a paycheck
was when I was working in the ski fields in Nisico,
when I was 16 and I used that.
What'd you buy?
I bought a 3D.S.
Hell yeah.
I was like, you know, I could like, you know,
maybe go to a nice restaurant with like some friends
or you know, go out and go to a pub or something,
you know, like, something like that.
And I was like, I really wanna play that new Animal Crossing though.
I just don't have the 3D...
Fuck it.
I bought a 3DS and it was the best purchase I ever made.
Yeah, I can't remember what my first...
I mean, outside of like,
I've started like games.
Like I said, I don't really count games.
But I feel like if I spend more,
the thing I probably spend the most
of my disposable income on now,
it's probably like meals, good food.
I remember a point in my life
where I could eat the same thing every day
and be satisfied with that.
I'm still at that point.
I'm still kind of at that point,
but sometimes I'm like, I kind of want a nice meal.
Like every time I can.
In university, I just bought those 3 kilogram bags
of pasta and I would just boil it, then salt it and eat it.
Wait, not even with sauce?
Wouldn't even with tomato sauce.
That's, bro, that is psychotic.
That just took too long.
And I just wanted a meal because I wanted the game.
I didn't want to spend money.
And you could eat like two months,
like a month worth of meals just on like pasta
for like two bucks.
Isn't it insane?
I mean, I mean just because you can,
doesn't mean you should.
It was a psychopath.
It was just pasta and salt.
It was just pasta and salt.
Like, and occasionally, occasionally, I would get like,
I would like maybe put chicken in it.
God, your arteries must have been crying.
Yeah, for sure, for sure.
I mean, luckily, carbs and so it was like,
it was like lunch at the student things.
It was like, you could get things that were like,
weight, like very cheap and so I would eat that a lot.
And so I saw that as like me spending money.
So I was like, okay, for lunch or dinner,
whenever I'm back home, I have to get something that's cheap.
Right. Yeah.
So I would just make that, it was bad.
I don't know, like to me,
to me the peak broke uni student food is,
Cup ramen, instant ramen.
That's too expensive.
Ah.
Like if you get a three kilogram bag of pasta,
it lasts way longer and is way cheaper than pot-in-
I would literally just buy in bulk.
I would have like, I would have like a literal drawer
that was just a ramen drawer.
Yeah, I did that too.
Full of like cup ramen and packed ramen.
I don't know, like to me, to me that's like still the peak
of like broke uni student food.
I don't think it was that.
that expensive, was it?
I don't know, maybe it was expensive for me.
And some ramen, I normally like 30p, each one,
which is not that much, but obviously,
a three kilogram bag.
Like Costco? Yeah.
Well, there was no Costco near me.
Okay, because I would just buy, like,
I would have like a monthly shipment of like ramen.
Either, either from my mum or just like online.
I realize now, I'm like, I got to university
and you know, your parents drive off,
and I was like, wait, where do I buy food from?
Like, because the nearest supermarket,
it was like 20 minutes away.
I can't. I'm like, I don't have a good.
When I was back at home, food just spawned in the fridge.
I realized, I was like, holy fuck,
how do I go to the store to buy this stuff?
And I'm just kind of like,
be like whenever anyone went to the supermarket
who had a car, yeah.
Like, hey, can I, can I join here?
Yeah.
And luckily one of our friends did have it,
so I occasionally went with them.
Yeah, all you would have to do.
But again, I don't know what they used to do before.
Like when we started university,
at the Tesco delivery thing, like supermarkets,
I don't know, they're just in Australia.
They'd, you can order online
and they'll deliver it to your house.
Like from a super,
No, we definitely didn't know that.
Oh yeah, they'll deliver it to you.
So I did Tesco Express or direct whatever it was,
like a million times.
And the dude would just turn up and he would deliver
all your stuff to you.
Which is great.
You had to pay like a small fee.
It wasn't that much for a union for it, but it was great.
You could order like 500 frozen pizzas,
which I then upgraded to.
Upgraded.
Yeah.
Well, you know, you really like...
I think anything's an upgrade from fucking pasta salt.
There was only so many times I could do it
before I started to really get like,
struggling.
Like God, I want flavor.
And then I realize that like oven pizzas are like one pound each
for one, and it's a whole meal.
So it's like, okay, well, I just started eating
oven pizza every day.
I think I had, I think it was stints where I would eat oven pizza
like 20, 30 times a month.
How much weight did you gain from that?
A lot.
Yeah, I bet.
I ate a lot of money.
Fucking hell.
That's where I started to get chubby in university.
I didn't realize because I just ate monster energy drinks
and if Ben and Jerry's was on sale, occasionally,
you know, I might cut one.
Splurge.
I might get one, you know.
Was that your biggest not knowing how to adult moment
in university?
Oh, for sure, when I realized like, fuck,
what the fuck do I eat?
And I realized, I realized I didn't know how to feed myself.
And I came to the conclusion that I was fundamentally too lazy
and I would never enjoy cooking.
Yeah.
So what I would do is, is that like, occasionally,
we would all take it in turns cooking things.
Yeah.
So I kind of, we did that occasionally
where we were taking into.
That rarely happened.
I wish we had that because I had heard of some like households
they're like, yeah, I cook on this day
and everyone feeds everyone.
And I'm like, if I, I think I purposely avoided
that kind of household because I would not know
what to cook.
I'd be like, how do I, I can't feed myself?
How do I feed several sentient human beings?
I'm just imagining like if it's Connor's turn
to like cookies, like bring out the pasta and salt.
I gotta bang it for you boys.
Trust me, you'll learn to love it.
It's good one, it's good.
Yeah, yeah.
Because, you know, now I see like a lot of TikToks
and a lot of like shorts being like,
If you need to like, if you're, if it's like 11 PM
and you don't know what to cook,
here's the perfect recipe for you.
I think I know the guy you're talking.
Yeah, yeah, you know what?
And I look at that, I'm like, man, I wish I ate this well
as a broke uni student too.
Holy fucking shit.
I look at that today and I'm like,
that's a great fucking idea.
I might do the same.
Getting all those spices was super expensive.
Yeah, oh yeah, it was.
It was not like, seasonings and stuff
were very expensive.
Yeah.
Flavor was expensive.
Yeah, like getting certain things,
it'd be like, well, if you want to,
You wanted like, I don't know, like, uh, basil leaves, right?
Yeah.
Like, that's, that's cool and all.
And that's great.
And it would help.
But like, they, they cost nearly the same amount as an oven pizza.
Yeah.
Just for them.
Yeah.
And so it was kind of like, well, what the fuck am I?
Like, obviously I'm going to get the oven pizza.
And then you realize, oh, shit, this is why everyone's unhealthy in this country.
Because it's like the oven pizza, I just stuck it in for 20 minutes and boom, I have a delicious meal.
Right.
Right.
I still love oven pizza.
That shit is fire.
Non Japan is terrible.
And they don't have it.
No.
The ones I do have terrible.
But we had some pretty good ones and I loved it.
Yeah, we have good ones in the UK.
And then I got to clean up when I'm cooking.
I just chuck it in the oven.
No tray.
I just put it in there.
Did you ever attempt to eat healthy in university?
Not even remotely.
I don't think there's a single uni student who attempts to do that.
Unless they're rich.
So by healthy, I don't mean like, you know, actually salads or whatever,
but at least trying to keep a balanced diet.
I don't pizza every day.
No, no.
I had a cuss-c-c-c-c-stint.
I ate cuscus for like...
A cuscustin?
For like six months, I ate cus.
Or cus and salt.
Yeah, no, because you could buy instant cuscus.
It would be in a packet, right?
And it was pretty delicious and it was relatively healthy.
How was that any different to instant ramen?
Because it was way cheaper.
Yeah, because it's just a smaller noodle.
Yeah, yeah, you could just pour a bench in a bowl,
and it was like a nice snack.
So I would, sometimes I would just pour like four in a bowl.
Yeah.
It would cost like a pound and I would just eat that.
Yeah.
And you pour in a bowl, pour boiling water, and boom, you got instant cuskkkk.
It's pretty bomb.
Yeah.
It was like, what's that,
what's that chef's name,
the famous one in the UK who did the,
yeah boy, meme.
Oh, Ainslie.
Yeah, Harrier?
Aynesley.
Isha.
That guy, he had his own friscus brand.
And they would always go on sale,
so he used to buy tons of it.
A cupboards full of this.
Okay, okay, I'm gonna,
also I'm gonna say this, you know.
A lot of people clown on Uncle Benz.
But I love Uncle Ben's.
I think, I think Uncle Benz
is the fucking ghost.
The golden rice?
Okay, yeah.
Yeah, the golden rice is so good.
I'm just saying, as an Asian,
sometimes I can't be bothered to cook my rice, okay?
Sometimes I just wanna put that shit in the microwave, okay?
Sometimes I just, there would be, I would make some rice
and then I'd realize I, you know, I didn't finish the rice
anyway, I'd left it out for too long, I'd be like, fuck.
Do I wait 40 to 50 minutes to like make another batch of rice
or do I just put in a pack of Uncle Benz?
Sometimes you just want rice right now.
Yeah.
Exactly.
I think if I had a rice cooker,
I didn't even know they existed.
If I knew they existed and I had one,
I would eat way more rice stuff.
Because I just, I cooked like rice the white way.
Yeah.
And then I would strain it with,
I would, once I cooked the rice,
I was taught to strain it with boiling water.
So I would strain it with boiling water.
Stop, it hurts.
It's fucking awful.
And it tastes like shit, I didn't know why.
Because you're literally washing away
all the flame.
Yeah, and I didn't know that,
because I didn't, I hadn't been tore anything else.
Someone's send this clip to Uncle Rogers right now.
It's hard too.
But like, that's the thing, right?
It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,
like, it's, it's, we didn't know how to cook,
right, we didn't know how to cook, right.
Yeah, I was never taught any other way.
Yeah, of course, yeah.
And so that's, you know, I, I ate it like that,
and I, sometimes I would make the, you'd make chicken curry,
because you could buy those, there's so many of them in the UK,
because we're obsessed with it.
You could easily buy these, like, one pound pots of,
of chicken curry that you just literally just heat up
and then you have curry.
Yeah, they were pretty good.
Like it, it wasn't great, but as a uni student,
it was great if you wanted some curry.
Yeah, for sure. All right, important question.
Rice or bread?
In terms of what?
In terms of, like, general consumption.
In terms of you have to pick one,
the other one disappears from the world,
and you can only have, you can only have rice or bread
for the rest of your life with any meal.
Oh, that's so hard.
Which carb do you pick?
Which carb do you pick?
Bread.
I'm, I'm, you know, and that's not because I'm white, right?
I think there's substitutes for, for rice that exist.
Ooh, okay.
And also, I don't always need rice.
I'll be sad.
I'll be sad, I'll be sad.
No, no, no.
I'll be sad.
You don't always need bread, but I can always do with,
I always do with some rice, man.
Are you telling me?
That means, that means some of the most goaded foods
on earth are gone, like sandwiches and burgers and hot dogs.
We have onigiri for a reason, right?
You know, that's, that's, yeah, Japanese
the girls have a rice burger.
Yeah, Japanese are figuring it out.
Like, you go to the conventi, right?
Because they have the sandwiches right next
to the onigiri, which one do you go for, right?
Okay, I'm a sandwich guy.
I'm, I, you know, the, I do,
but I do sometimes get onigiri.
Yeah.
My God, this is one time I regret being half Asian.
Just I can't decide.
Yeah.
Full white, full Asian, I'm rice all the way.
I could not give up rice with like half the meals I cook with.
First of all, company sandwiches and onigiri.
Let's just talk about that for a second.
Okay.
I agree.
Sandwich is better than onigiri.
Onigiri is like a gamble, I feel.
Like the filling quality you get is so 50-50.
And if you get no filling in it, I feel so bad that it just ate a block of rice.
I'm like, shit, that didn't taste good.
And like sandwiches always, always good.
You always get the same level.
Yeah, I mean, like you'd be giving up some like goaded things,
like, you know, pizza, that would be like...
Pizza's gone.
Are you telling me that you're willing to get rid of pizza?
I didn't even think about that.
You know, you know what?
I would, you know, because like, to me...
You're a clown, gone.
To me, rice is the perfect, just neutral thing, you know?
It's just give me any meat or any kind of meal.
And like, you need some kind of neutral filling with that.
Rice is just,
Rice just plays that role perfectly.
Is wheat gone?
Is this like, is everything wheat based gone?
Is beer gone?
No, no, no, no.
Just specifically bread.
You know, if I've come to my decision,
I thought about long and hard.
I love both bread and rice.
Okay.
But I'm gonna have to side with bread on this one.
Oh.
I'm gonna have to side with bread.
His German side one day.
My German side has won.
Yeah.
Just because I'm thinking about the sheer varroids
of breads as opposed to the sheer variety of rice.
And rice, as much as I love it,
a lot of times can be replaced with bread
in a lot of meals.
Not a lot of Asian things, but not a lot of Asian things,
for sure.
I'm thinking of it because I-
Not a lot of Asian things, but in the case with like
a carb companion, a lot of things can be replaced with bread.
Like how are you gonna eat soup without bread now?
That's gone.
You can.
No.
Yeah, actually you can.
I mean, you can, but I don't.
You can.
Actually, we do that in Thailand, actually.
You know?
No.
It depends on the, you can, you can't eat.
You can, you can.
I'm telling you, you can.
I mean you can.
You can stick your dick in the fridge.
Doesn't mean you should.
I can.
But I'm not going to.
There is nothing wrong, actually, you know,
depending on the soup, some soup goes so well with rice, you know.
Okay, look, I get it.
Okay, I actually, yeah, yeah.
Like, I cannot imagine eating Tomyam.
Okay, Tomiom and like soup,
curry, I understand, right?
Like rice is probably the better companion.
But in the wider world of soups, bread is the goat.
I'm not saying rice is better than bread.
I'm just saying, you know, it's rice in a starving world,
in a starving world, okay,
in a world where aliens have invaded earth
and, you know, gum to your head, rice or bread,
which one goes?
I would be like, I'm keeping the brain.
I would be like, oh, I think I would keep the rice.
It isn't like Katsu's gone too,
because that's breading, right?
And like fried chicken, that's bread, technically,
there's a bit of bread.
Oh, that's true.
I mean, that's true.
I honestly think now, that's like flour.
Now that I'm thinking about it,
I think that curry, like Japanese curry,
would go bomb with bread.
Oh yeah.
I feel like we can,
Cocoa, just get rid of the rice.
That should just bread, a side of bread.
You can just scoop it up, but that sounds so good.
I mean, they do the cauliflower rice,
which actually goes quite hard.
Exactly, yo, exactly.
We don't need rice.
We have cauliflower rice is so good.
You know, actually, in America,
did you remember when I ordered that thing?
I ordered cauliflower chicken.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I didn't know what it was.
Yeah.
And it looked like exactly like a piece of fried chicken
on the outside.
Yeah, remember this?
With the buffalo sauce, no, I don't.
No, no, it was like a dry rub.
It was weird.
Oh.
And you bite it into this piece
that looks exactly like a thick piece of fried chicken
and it was just a piece of cauliflower.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
I'm sorry, it's blew my mind.
Dude, cauliflower's goaded.
Yeah.
So good.
So good.
Like, like,
We have a bad image of cauliflower
because it seems to be that one thing
we always hated as a kid.
No, I loved it as a kid.
You loved it as a kid?
Yeah, in the UK you always had like cauliflower
with like a creamy cheese sauce thing
and it's always really good.
Oh, that sounds good.
My parents wouldn't serve it to me though.
I think they thought it was too bad for me.
But my friend's house did.
Yeah, I never got that.
I just got like the normal boiled cauliflower.
Yeah, me too.
I like that too.
You like that as well?
I like, fuck I love.
You just love every vegetable.
I love veg, man.
That's just so good.
Carrots is ma'am, but every other veg is pretty good.
All right, all right.
Noodles or pasta?
What am I keeping?
Yeah, what are you keeping?
Pasta, like a million times.
Isn't that way, no, there's a lot of noodle variation.
There's a lot of noodle variations.
I feel like we've had this date.
I'm not getting deja vuve, we had this discussion.
I feel like, I was about to say this way more,
maybe, we might have.
I was about to say there's way more noodles of pasta,
way more variation of pasta,
but then I think you rebuttled,
no, there was way more variations of noodles.
I think it might have been what about,
like, first episodes,
where we talked about like food.
What if we've,
what if we're literally reliving an entire,
and this is like so weird.
So I was gonna clip it too.
I don't, I think we might have had a similar conversation
off camera. I don't think we've had it.
I, you know, I think.
I feel like this would, I feel like if it is,
it would be a bigger meme probably.
I feel like I would have seen some memes
on the sub-red about this.
For sure. Pasta?
Yeah, I'm keeping pasta.
No question.
I agree.
I agree.
I gotta, I gotta betray my Asian brethren's, I'm sorry.
Yeah, I'm sorry guys.
I love my noodles, man.
I just, it would feel, it would feel,
It would feel so bad losing out on all of the noodles,
all of the ramen, all the Thai noodles,
Chinese noodles, just use spaghetti.
Oh.
Just kidding.
Oh.
But honestly, Italians, I gotta fucking give it to you guys.
You guys made something goaded, man.
I could not, I could not give up pasta.
It's my favorite carb.
It is, it is.
Hands down.
Hands down pasta, pasta goaded carb.
Yeah.
God, I love pasta, man.
I've never met a single person who doesn't like pasta.
Yeah, I know, right?
Everybody loves it.
Yeah, it's like Italian cuisine, right?
What's the most widely seen cuisine you've seen around the world?
Because I think to me, it's maybe Italian.
Yes, it's the easiest one to get,
no matter where I go in the world, you know,
sometimes you find a hard time finding like, you know,
Mexican restaurants.
Then you go to America, no problem, you know.
Sometimes you have a hard time maybe finding French food
or, you know, Thai food, you know.
But like, I've never had a hard time finding an Italian restaurant.
Yeah.
And like even, you know,
A lot of people I think I'm gonna say like Chinese food,
but I feel like, there's Chinese food
and then there's Chinese food.
I don't, okay, here's the thing.
I don't think Chinese food exists, right?
In the sense, okay, let's-
good out of context.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't think it's real.
In the sense where I don't think Chinese food
can be branded as in one under one umbrella, right?
Right.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because different, because different,
because, out of context, Chinese food isn't real.
No, no, because like, different,
Different parts of China have different like styles of cuisines.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
It's like the variation.
So's Italy though as well.
Yeah.
Like the variation in Chinese food is so fucking like large that if I go to a place and it's just like, oh, this is a Chinese food restaurant.
I'm just like, that's, that's, that's us.
What part?
What does that mean?
What does that mean?
Is it, you know, Cantonese cuisine?
Is it, you know, Cessuan?
You know, there's, China has like so many different styles of cuisine.
that I would like to know which part of China,
which cuisine am I eating rather than,
if it's just Chinese food,
and I think this comes from growing up in the UK.
When it's Chinese food in the UK,
it's awful.
A lot of Chinese food in the UK is awful
because it's just your baseline,
here is westernized Chinese food
as opposed to actual Chinese cuisine.
And so finding,
finding actual specialized Chinese cuisine
is a lot hard,
harder than finding good Italian food, in my opinion.
Yeah, I wanna say that next time I go to a Pander Express.
I'm like, oh, what part of China is this from?
Yeah, yeah.
Is this Sichuan or?
Yeah, Chinese.
In America, it's like, barely Chinese.
Yeah.
Yeah. I remember having this argument with a,
with a mate in England and I was like, yeah,
sweet and sour chicken, that's not real Chinese food.
You know, you go to China and you try and find sweet and sour chicken,
you're not gonna be able to find that, you know?
And he's like, no, no, no, no.
It's everywhere.
It's everywhere.
It's my favorite Chinese food, you know?
And I'm like saying, you know,
that's kind of like saying orange chicken, you know.
Yeah, it's like, what do you mean?
I can't get orange chicken in China.
It's Chinese food.
Yeah, yeah.
But yeah, to me, Italian, Italians are goaded with their food
and it's also, I think, one of the easiest cuisine
to find worldwide.
I've not been to a country so far
where I've had a hard time finding Italian,
a good Italian restaurant kind of like anywhere.
That's true.
Yeah, you got it, Italians.
Congratulations on the, the goats.
Congratulations on the pasta.
You got that job.
Yeah.
What do you guys think about French food?
Not as good as Italian.
I mean, it's alright.
Okay, here's the thing.
French have the image of being like, you know,
oh, we have like the best food, you know.
This is where all of the culinary, like, giants are.
You're gonna just stop that we have the best blank.
Like, I think French food,
I used to get to France every year for like,
you know, fucking forever.
Yeah.
For like three weeks at a time.
And like French food in France was amazing.
And it was so good, some of the best in the world.
But the moment you leave France to get actually good French food,
you have to pay out the ass.
Oh yeah.
Whereas I feel like Italian kind of travels a little better.
You can get dishes for more reasonable prices.
I feel like you need to pay out the ass while you're in Paris as well.
Yeah.
To be fair.
Yeah, yeah.
It's a lot more affordable to get really good quality stuff.
For sure.
But yeah, it doesn't export well.
I think that's the problem is that Italian kind of like food,
it's very easy to kind of make it in more palatable
to whatever culture.
or whatever country you're in for an affordable price.
It's more customizable.
Yeah, yeah.
And I just think, yeah, France is the problem
where to get really good French food abroad,
you have to spend a shit ton of money.
Yeah, a lot of the time.
That's true.
A lot of the time, not all the time, a lot of the time.
So that's why it feels like kind of like more bougie Italian.
Sometimes you're like, yeah, fuck it, no, not go Italian.
Well, it's like French always has,
I think everything French has this image that is bougie.
Yeah. French, the language sounds bougie a lot of the times.
But yeah, like, I think one thing I notice,
because, you know, I've said before that I spent a lot of money,
a lot of my disposable income,
trying out different restaurants,
because that's like, I guess, my favorite thing to spend money on nowadays.
Like, going, one thing that always bothers me about going to, let's say,
fancy restaurants, right?
You know, higher tier in restaurants, is that everyone's kind of agreed, right?
It's, you know, they taste really good.
Is it worth the price?
A lot of times, no, it's not worth the price.
Sometimes you go for the experience, you go for this kind of like rare ingredient that you can't get anywhere else. It's kind of like you're paying for like the rarity as opposed to the how good it tastes a lot of times. But one thing that always bothers me is a lot of like higher class restaurants I go to. It tastes, it doesn't taste the same, but they never go too far of this like taste profile. Nothing ever tastes too strong. You know, there's always like a subtle hint of something.
And sometimes I just want to, maybe this is the Southeast Asian
to me talking. I want to see what happens.
If some, if there is a fine dining or a high class restaurant
that just, that just commits to having a really spicy food
of really, really strong taste,
because obviously that's not gonna appeal to anyone or everyone.
But that's one thing I would like to see.
I feel though those exist, especially in Japan
in like the mom and pop shops, right?
Whereas like they're not afraid to not, you know,
pertain to the- What do you mean by mom and pop shops?
You know, like the locally owned places.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That have been around for like several generations,
you know, that may be specialized in a particular dish
or a particular style of dish.
Yeah.
Because they're not afraid of alienating the general consensus.
Like they just, they're like, we have this one thing.
Yeah. And this is our gimmick.
And if you fuck with it, then you can come back at any time.
Hell, but if you don't, then go somewhere else.
You know, like they don't care about becoming like this,
you know, big thing or having this, you know, large name in the
in the restaurant world, if you will.
So it's like, you know,
because like some of the weirdest shit
I've ever eaten and I've eaten
a lot of weird shit in my life
has always been in the most like dingy local places
that just don't really give a fuck.
They're like, yeah, this is our weird thing.
Y'all, you like it?
Cool, thanks.
I'm curious about you, Joey.
When have you had like a Shokugeki moment,
you know, the fucking, you take a take.
I mean, the cream fried chicken, I almost.
Oh, really? Okay, okay, okay.
And also the first time I went to that skimming place
I took you guys to.
Yeah, that was,
There are a few dishes that have made me had
the Shokuke Gekumokin moment.
Sikkimen is like one of those places.
There's a lot of Thai dishes I remember as a child
that still sticks with me to this day.
First time lasagna, man, of course.
My first lasagna, I still remember that shit, man.
It wasn't even like a great lasagna,
but I'm just like, holy shit.
How can you improve pasta above?
Yeah, it is good.
Yeah, it is good.
What about you, Connor?
Just most foods.
He has one every day, I believe.
That's true, that's true.
I think as long as it's not pasta and salt,
I'm a nut.
Anything's a nut.
He's experienced the bottom of the barrel,
so anything else is above it.
I'm very easy to please with food.
I just want something that makes me fall and taste good.
And I'm happy.
I feel that's why we were such shit chefs.
Yeah, probably.
Because if we actually cared about food,
that's why I don't want to.
I don't want to get a better palate.
I fucking love what I eat right now.
right now.
Yeah, that's true.
I think, I don't know, I think,
going on a tangent, I've tried like cooking a bit more.
And obviously I'm biased, but I think I could be a pretty good cook.
And I think part of the reason I could be a pretty good cook
is because I'm a really picky eater.
Oh yeah.
I want things to taste exactly, I have a way
that I want them to taste exactly in my mind.
And when I get that, I'm like, holy shit, this tastes fucking dumb.
Well, I would argue that's what makes the best shifts, right?
Like, they actually care about
what goes into the food and the small subtleties
of what makes a dish great.
Like if you didn't give a shit about it,
then you'd be like, you end up like Mr. Pasta and Salt over here.
Where it's just like, if it's edible,
it's going in my tummy.
If I had more time, I'd probably cook more.
Because I do enjoy cooking.
I do enjoy the final result.
There's a lot of things I enjoy in life.
Out of the three of us, yeah.
I enjoy the final result.
I don't enjoy the aftermath or some of the process
of what happens before that final result.
But when you get that final result in,
it's really,
It's so fucking satisfying.
Yeah, for sure.
I sound like Mail-in right now.
She's robbing off on you.
Maybe you've been hanging out with Mail-in too much.
Yeah.
Going back to Thailand.
Um, okay.
I don't know, I don't know if this is just people that I've, uh, I've had around me.
But there's one thing I've realized growing up and talking to more of my Asian friends.
I don't, and I want to confirm if this is a thing that's widespread or this is a me
thing.
Conno's wheel that one.
I got you.
Okay.
I can ask you this, okay.
Does every Asian family
have the spiciest fucking Asian drama,
like the spiciest family drama
just hidden away somewhere?
Or is this just,
or is this just something I've just noticed
as I've like grown older
about the people around my friends
and my Asian families?
I don't think it has to do with an Asian family.
I think it just has to do with big families.
Right.
Because the more people get involved,
the more likely you're gonna run into someone not liking someone.
Yeah, right? Because my Asian family is quite small,
like comparatively to other Asian families.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And as far as I'm concerned,
like, I don't really know of any, like, drama that's happened in the family.
Yeah, because I've noticed this because I've, you know,
because growing up, right, growing up, especially, you know,
especially in a lot of Southeast Asian families I've seen,
you grew up and you, you grew up with a lot of the same thing,
same like family values, treasure family,
love your family and like there's a big thing,
you know, in Thailand where you call everyone,
you know, auntie or uncle or cousin or brother.
You call your, you call your cousins, brother, sister,
and sometimes you call family friends brother and sister.
And then you call your auntie and uncle,
auntie and uncle, and then you call your family's friends
auntie and uncle as well, right?
So a lot of the times, with how big the families are,
you don't actually know who your auntie and uncles are
by blind.
Like, you know who your aunties and uncles are.
And then there'll be someone who you call auntie and uncle, right?
And I've confirmed this with like a few friends.
And you grow up, everything's like, everything's great.
Everything's, you know, we're a nice, big, happy family.
You grow older.
And then you ask around.
And you're like, and then there'll be this like, they'll be,
you'll talk to like one of your uncles.
And then they'll mention something about a,
family member about this huge drama that happened
before you were born, right?
And then you realize, oh, so like,
this auntie's not my real auntie or that auntie's not
my real auntie or something like Navi's fucking,
I feel like I've just like disrupted
the core memory from Navi right now.
That's so bizarre.
That's so, so selfish stage.
And I thought, I remember realizing,
I remember thinking I had a normal family
and then as I grew up,
the more like I like the more dark history
I uncovered behind behind some of the shit
that happened like with my not like not my immediate family
but like some of my extended family.
Yeah. And then I remember like talk to my friends
about this and I was like I had the conversation
with some of my Southeast Asian mates and I was like yeah,
this is weird weird thing I discovered about my family
the other day and they were like, oh no, that's like five
of my aunties.
Like that's, that's, fuck.
It's just I feel that's such a South
stage and Paul, purely from the fact that you said five of my aunties.
I'm like, dog, I don't even have that many on both sides of the family, let alone on one side.
Yeah, I had my, had one friend who was just like, yeah, I had this auntie that I thought
was like my blood-related auntie for like a long time. And I found out, no, she's not even like
blood-related family at all. And then another, another friend was just like, yeah, so there's this
one cousin who I didn't realize was just like a love child, I guess. And just nobody.
Nobody talked about it.
And every Asian just have trust issues?
Like I would be like, who do I trust?
Dude, don't look at me, don't.
I feel that's very sell-east agent.
Not East Asian.
Maybe that's why I fucking love
all the shitty romances I do, man.
Maybe it's just in my blood, man.
Maybe it's in my blood.
That's why I'm more of an enjoyer of the pure romance shows, right?
Because we got no problems in my family.
Yeah, the order I've grown up,
the order I realized, oh, like all the cheesy,
of soap operas that I thought were ridiculous.
Maybe that's like more based on reality
than I first thought.
You didn't see the small text that says
this is non-fiction.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because I really like every time you go,
it's especially like the big family gatherings.
Like every time I've been to like a family wedding,
there's some new piece of information
that just gets unearthed.
Oh yeah.
And I don't know, weird tangent.
I wanted to confirm if it was a me thing
or if there are any other Asians out there
that know what I'm talking about, okay?
scene gang has definitely got your back on that one, dude.
It's bizarre.
Yeah.
How big's your, how big's your, like,
not very big, family?
Yeah, not very big.
Yeah.
And even then, like, when you do have cousins,
you don't really talk to cousins.
Hmm.
I never ever talk to my cousins.
Do you not?
Do you text your cousins or anything like that?
Yeah, all the time.
I don't even know.
Half is my family.
But like, it's like, you don't talk to your cousins
unless it's like an awkward interaction.
I fucking love my cousins.
My cousins are like them.
I like them.
It's always like,
in some kind of setting.
Why I talked to that.
I feel it's definitely a white thing
because my white side of the family,
I don't, I don't know.
My white side, I don't even know any of them.
Like, I- You don't?
I supposedly have about like 10 to 15 cousins
that all live in Germany.
And I don't even know what they look like.
I don't know their names.
I've never met them.
I feel like outside of immediate family,
like, I feel like generally like white people
don't really care that much
unless there's like,
unless they're actually like really good friends with them.
Yeah.
I think we put way more importance on like friends.
Yeah, I think, uh, it's too many degrees of separation.
Yeah, I think outside of immediate family, it's like, no.
Yeah, I have this weird thing where if it's like, if, if they're family and, you know,
if they're blood related, I feel like we're all instilled with this value that, you know,
if they're blood related, they're like, they're like a brother to you.
They're like a sister to you.
I remember like, one of, one of like the weirdest things that has happened to me is, uh,
where I actually like discovered long lost family once.
So yeah, like I said, uh, both.
my parents have like a very, very big family.
And I had an uncle who unfortunately passed away
before I was born.
So there was this uncle that I just like never knew, right?
Blood related?
Blood related.
Okay, yes, yes, yes, yes.
We're gonna make sure.
Actually, yes, I have to clarify.
Yes, 100% blood related.
Yeah.
The 23 million finalists.
They don't have 15 uncles.
Sometimes we have like secret uncles, you know?
Who knows?
It's fucking Southeast Asian family drama.
But yeah, like I had an uncle who I never knew
because he passed away before I was born.
So he had a, he had a, so my uncle,
my uncle had a kid with someone from Switzerland, right?
Okay.
Never knew this for the longest time, right?
And by sheer coincidence, right?
We had a, it was just me and my mom and my dad,
and we had a family trip to Switzerland.
And we were just going for like, you know,
we never been to Switzerland before.
We just wanted to visit.
And my, my dad,
my dad had an old phone number of my uncle,
of his brother that had passed away.
And he was married to, you know,
someone who was from Switzerland,
and he had that phone number.
So he was like, you know what?
Let's, uh, I, we have lost all contact with my cousin, right, who is my dad's, I guess my dad's nephew, right?
Hasn't seen him since, uh, since his brother passed away. Uh, let's try phoning this number and
see what happens. Uh, and so we phone it and someone picks up. Luckily, it's Switzerland,
so, you know, they speak English as well. Um, and they said, oh, sorry, this person doesn't live here.
but we can give you the number,
we can give you the number where the previous owner moved to.
Right.
And so we tried, we tried finding this new number
and then we we had gotten to like my auntie, you know,
my, you know, my uncles, yeah, my, well, my uncles,
is it step-heart?
How would you classify this?
This is getting so, this is getting so confusing now.
My uncle's wife.
basically, my uncle's wife, okay.
And we got him through to them.
And then, you know, my dad had an amazing moment
where we got to like, he got to reconnect
with his nephew, who he had not seen
for literal decades and who, like, my cousin didn't even,
like, I think that was the first time he'd spoken to him
because he was like, he was that young
when my uncle passed away.
And so I had this,
weird like moment where my dad's like,
so we're gonna meet your cousin now.
You've never met your cousin.
Jesus.
But your family.
But like instantly like it was a great moment
where I'd seen him for the first time
and I got to meet him and I could instantly tell,
oh, oh, he's blood related.
Oh, because he looked very, very, he had like a lot
of similar features.
my dad and it was just this moment where I had just found long lost family and I'm like
that's awesome yeah I'm like this is so fucking severe I don't I didn't know how to like
process this and I literally didn't know how to process this um but we just like after just one
conversation I'm like oh okay your family and instantly like after one conversation he he
he I could I could tell there was like he at that time he barely spoke English right
because he was more speaking French and German at the time.
He barely spoke English,
but even though I was like a teenage back then,
even though we could only communicate
through like very, very simple sentences,
I could feel like a bond there.
And like after meeting him and after discovering
that I had a long lost cousin, you know, every time,
you know, every time he actually started learning more English as well
and we kind of connected better.
And it was like a long lost family bond.
And I'm like, that's the good part of,
That's the good part of family values,
not the spicy Asian drama.
So that's, that's, there's,
I'm scared to find anyone on my family tree
that I know is, so there's pretty reason why they disappeared.
It's like a, it's like a double-edged sword, right?
That's like the good part where you're like,
you meet someone, even if you've never seen them before
in your life, there's a family value that's instilled in you
that no matter what, if do you feel like a blood relate,
if they're family, you know, you treat them like family,
no matter what.
Well, then some, a lot of Asian families,
I feel take advantage of that as well.
Oh yeah.
There's always, I know.
So can I borrow money?
Your family, right?
And I remember, I remember, like, there's,
I remember the first time I watched Summer Wars, right?
And the one thing.
Contangent is this?
Oh, no, okay, it is, it is a tangent.
No, I know which direction.
But, but like, because, like, Summer Wars.
I haven't seen Summer Wars.
Oh, you haven't seen Summer Wars.
Is why I'm like, what?
Okay.
Summer Wars, there's like two parts of Summer Wars.
There's one part that is basically, like,
did you want the movie?
But then there's this other part,
which is basically showcasing this big Japanese
family who come together for a family reunion one last time.
It's like 50 of them.
Yeah, yeah, there's like 50 of them.
And there's a storyline about like the one black sheep of the family
that nobody talks about.
And I swear to God, every one of my Southeast Asian like brethren's,
there is every, I don't know why.
You just like me for real.
There is always that one black sheep of the family
that nobody talks about, but everyone knows about.
Right.
Except if you're a kid.
You're like, who is this?
Who is, who is this man?
And we're like, we don't, we, it is he who should, it is he who should not be named.
It's like the Voldemort of the family.
Yeah, it's like the Voldemort of the family.
But yeah, that's, uh, yeah, I do agree though with Connor in the sense that like,
I feel in a lot of like, like, uh, like Western families.
It's not so much about like cousins that you form like a really close, like, almost family
bond, but more like friends, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Because in Japan, I feel the equivalent of that is childhood friends.
Right.
Okay.
Okay.
Saddamazimi's like, first hand, I can tell you,
like, when you are childhood friends with someone,
when you like have grown up with someone
ever since like before you could even have sentient thoughts.
Yeah. It's just, you have that connection,
even if it's like five, 10 years since you met them.
Yeah. The moment you get back together into a conversation,
you're like, it's like nothing's changed, you know?
Like you could share with them anything that you want.
That's so weird though, because it's like,
I could probably do that with, you know,
the cousins that I live, that live in Germany.
that I'm unaware of, but it's like,
it doesn't, it feels more distant than someone
who has been there my entire life, right?
Even if they're not blood related.
I'm not in concept with any of my childhood friends.
No, weird.
I have more childhood friends than I do cousins.
Those are your brothers and sisters.
That is my family, dude.
I messaged occasionally.
I always hit them up when I go back.
I thought I really didn't watch some wars
because I thought it was gonna be about fighting.
I mean, it is in a sense.
It has,
I thought it was to be wars.
That was no.
Yeah.
So that's why I didn't watch it.
It's like a digital war.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm not interested in all that.
Just think of, it's Digimon the movie re-skin.
That's all, yeah.
But I like, it's a good movie.
It's, I, the thing, the thing I loved about someone was, was the family aspect.
Because that's the part that I related with.
Because yeah, I had a very similar kind of, like, I guess, family structure where, like, my grandmother was like, probably, probably like, my, like, my, like, like,
my biggest influence in life
because she was like the family leader
and she like was the linchpin
that like kept him around together.
Holy shit, I'm fucking,
I'm fucking tearing up.
Oh, holy shit.
Like, yeah, I fucking love my grandma
and like she,
grandma, if you're watching from heaven,
I miss you, I miss you grandma.
Oh, yeah, that's what that's kind of like
a big reason why like I remember Summer Wars was
because like I had a very, very similar family structure
to that, including all of the drama
that went with that.
And I've realized that now I'm that uncle who has the weird job
because every uncle has the weird job.
I'm that uncle who has the weird job now.
So what does uncle do?
Don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it.
Don't look it off.
I have an uncle, that's a YouTuber?
What's this?
That's a job?
Yeah, they never taught me that in school.
Yeah.
Well, thanks for watching guys.
That was this episode of trash taste.
Hey, look at the patrons though.
So beautiful.
They're like family.
You guys are family.
Hell yeah.
Well, family.
Yeah, we take care of each other.
We care about each other.
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