Trash Taste Podcast - These YouTubers Are Destroying Japan | Trash Taste #176

Episode Date: November 3, 2023

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Welcome back to another episode of Trash Taste. I'm Connor and once again joined by the boys, Joey and Gar. Do you have anything but purple t-shirts in your, I just realized now, I thought you were wearing the trash t-shirt, no. No, you've moved over to Twitch. Well, because I was, when I'm cycling, it's really easy to get pretty sweaty,

so I kind of wanna pick the finish in like, most t-shirt-like shirts I have. Connor's definitely happy of the fact that we just happened to pick purple as the trash taste color, you know? I didn't wear purple much before, but no, I just like it. So I think the finished t-shirt-

Probably because you're surrounded by it all the time. Yeah, maybe like subliminal messaging. Like, bubble, bubble, bubble. Yeah, you like purple. How are you guys been? How you guys didn't do it? Yeah, good, good. This episode's coming out the week we recorded.

So that's top-ball. Yeah, so we decided to talk, to make another topical episode. Most recent you'll see this. Yeah. And I guess like one of the most recent topical things that has happened, not just like in the previous, like two weeks, but it seems to be keep happening now,

is YouTubers ruining Japan. That is not us. We started. We started it. We started. Let's give our, let's give our shout out to the OG Logan Paul for starting off the trends. The only time you'll ever get a shout out.

Such a good job that Chris had to go on national TV and coined the iconic our YouTuber for his to apologize and show that YouTube is a kind of normal sometimes. He's a trend, so. Yeah. Well, where is Chris now when we need it most on national television to tell everyone that YouTubers aren't bad? Yeah.

Yeah. But yeah, so I mean, that's been a big thing. Obviously, there's the famous one with Johnny Smiley, which we didn't talk about, and I didn't talk about it all. And I think most of us didn't because... We didn't want to give him more attention while he was still like. It seemed like he kind of thrived off getting attention on the take

and causing all these like terrible kind of... Oh, trust me, I would have made 10 second channel videos on him, but then I thought to myself, no, this is exactly what he wants. And I guess this is exactly what he wants. He was fueling off it. And then now obviously he's been arrested. Twice. Twice.

Yeah, because Japan is this... I mean, it's actually kind of terrifying. It's a really weird system. They can hold you for 28 days, is it where I can't maybe correct? 28 or 24, I come from Mahoney. And then before they have to charge you anything, obviously in most Western countries, the UK and US, I think it's 24 or 48 hours, I think it's 48

before they have to charge you with anything. So it's kind of terrifying that they can like, in Japan, they can hold you of 28 days, they can ruin your life because you know, if you don't show up to work, you can't talk to anyone, you can't content anyone except you're a lawyer. And so you're in the system

and then they have this amazing, thing that they can do, which I don't know how they're allowed to do this. This is insane to me. If you don't get charged in that period, they can just charge you with something else the moment that period is up, which is what they're doing right now. Yeah. Which, listen, it's a, some people, karma hits very good, well for, but sometimes you're like, man, I wish the system wasn't fucked, though, as well. But you're like, damn, but it is nice to see when the fucked system is kind of used in a kind of useful way to target someone who's just a scourge on the earth.

So if you don't know who Johnny Smalley is, if you are not in tune with, I guess, the streamer culture. Good on you. Well done. He touched grass. Yeah, he was a streamer that blew up on Kik a while ago. Yeah, yeah, Kik. It was K.

It was a band from the other platforms, I believe. Yeah, I believe he got banned from the other platforms. And he made a name for himself by basically going out to the streets of Japan. and, to put it simply, harassing people. Just straight up. Just straight up, if you'd heard about one of those guys who were like just shouting Hiroshima and Nagasaki in the middle of a fucking train.

Oh no, I just remember, I did make a video on that first incident. You're the first guy you did. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The first one where he was on the train and he was blasting music and then... Oh, God, they're like... And then he went up to a random,

just innocent salary man in Japan and was just like, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, do you remember it? We'll do it again? I fucking tell you, and I'm like, what, do you have, like, government connections? Like what, where is this confidence coming from? There's a sad thing about that guy, as everyone's like, well, I'm sure he's just a tourist.

Like, no, he's been living in eight years. Yeah. Yeah. And then doesn't speak any Japanese. And then also, um, I guess was like a 40 year old man essentially. He was, oh, no, no, no, that's a different one. What? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a different one. You're talking about the other case. The guy who's like blasting Scrilex. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that was the first one I did. I didn't mention him by name and I'm still not going to it because he deserves no attention. But But then I actually did do the first Johnny Somalians then where he talked about the Hiroshima Nagasaki shit. Well, that was bad because like that immediately made news

in Japan. Yeah, yeah. And naturally. Yeah, that one was interesting. That was where, well, listen, Japanese people online, if you give them a reason to think that they can say what they wanna say, holy shit, do they say some heinous shit?

The comments I was seeing were fucking awful. Yeah, if you thought 4chan was bad, you've never been on 2chan. I've never seen such, I mean, I've been, I've seen a Western thing, but holy shit, the open racism was crazy on the Japanese side. Yeah.

Because they just felt justified in being racist in a way. You know that's the one reason when I decided to move to Japan, I didn't make a Japan, like Japanese channel. Oh, okay. Well, I've, I've heard from other people. Because I used to be on 2chan when I was in high school, because I was dumb as shit and I had too much time in my hands.

And I saw, my God, it made, it made the Newgrounds forums look like a playground. Like it was, it was bad. And I was like, well, if I say anything bad, they're gonna take one look at this face and they go, stupid guyjin, probably the tamest thing they'll say

and then they'll just cancel me off the face of the earth over nothing probably. But this one was definitely this whole Jolini Somali thing and all the other ones he was involved in. He was inciting action and violence. There has been sent to plenty of incidents where he just like get punched

by random people on the streets. I think an Australian dude who knocked out his friend and then hit. Good. Which was great. He's doing the Aussies crowd. And you know, like this is coming straight out of just finishing Vinland Saga season

where you're like, I have no enemies. And you're like, wait though, violence, actually. I don't confirm it's that moment where you're like, so I don't condone violence. But it is kind of expected when you do stuff like, like yeah, you probably watch Vinland Saga and was like, I have no enemies and he was just like, bet.

I mean, it's easy to feel no ill will towards people until there's someone like that in front of you where you're like, actually, I do hate some people. Yeah. I think some people suck. Some people deserve a punch in the face, you know? Yeah. And so obviously he kept pushing it, which was just doing them straight up with crimes on camera. Yep, yeah. And then got arrested and that was cool.

And then recently there was, so the thought process, I think, currently with, Jeremy Smalley's, I think they are going to charge him with something. Obviously, Japan has, I think, again, this is all, like, I think I know this, but I'm not 100% sure. If you are a foreigner or foreign national in Japan and you get charged with over one year of a crime,

you are automatically deported. So if you get over a year sentence, they're just, instead of serving it in Japan, because why would the fuck they wanna deal with you? They just send you out. If it's less than a year, I think you serve it in Japan. Yeah, and I think he got arrested

because he snuck into a construction site. The trespassing was the first one, and the second one was... And then he was harassing the worst. Yeah, it was being a nuisance in the business. which is super vague. And I feel like any of us could be, like, if you go in anywhere with a camera,

you could be arrested of that. It's kind of a very, it's a little, I will admit, on the Japanese side, they are grasping at straws to keep this man in jail. Yeah. And it's, I mean, for this scenario, like, oh, this is great. But also it's kind of scary at the same time

that you're like, if you just piss off the wrong government person, you could just be in jail for whatever fucking reason. Yeah, I mean, it's scary, but at the same time, It was kind of like, you know, this is the bare definition of fuck around and find out. Oh, 100%.

He was fucking around as much as he possibly could. Yeah. And he found out. And the thing that worries me is that this will set the wrong kind of like expectations and precedent because I saw it like, it's rare that a Western kind of like content creator makes news in the Japanese theory is even like, for a good reason. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Another streamer was in jail for 30 days, but wasn't charged or anything because they were trespassing. I think, I don't know if they were streaming, but they were at the Fukushima Nuclear Exclusions. Oh, yes. Yeah, I remember this. But that was, that didn't get nearly as much backlash

as this did, which is kind of crazy in a weird way. Why do you think that is? I just think it's the nuisance. He was just, he was such an easy person to hate. The Japanese, or it was the Japanese public just being like, don't worry, the radiation get him eventually. No, no, no, we don't have to do it.

So we don't have to do, Joey. So we don't have to do anything. No, because they're doing so much. Nature is taking its course. Well, wait. Okay, that's an insult to everyone, Jerry. Okay, if, if, if this. I'm just joking, look, look,

I like, I know why, okay, because like trespassing, it's just like, eh, doesn't really affect me. You see a clip of someone being loud on a train, and I think Japanese people are like, we found puppy enemy number one. That is very visceral for Japanese people. It goes against everything the Japanese are built up.

And then he started shouting out Hiroshima and Nagasaki being a public nuisance. You know, this, like, here's the complete antithesis of what Japan as a society except, especially in public, you know. Absolutely, yeah. Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how it all plays out. Yeah, because we had like this,

the other YouTube, I don't know if you saw this, about a guy who went around Japan Japan and he was like the YouTuber, the YouTube video, I believe, was like how I traveled around Japan for free. Yep. Yeah. That's the last recent one. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. First of all, though, this guy's YouTube channel, I don't name it, but here's this one thumbnail where it's like, I survived the poorest place on earth. And it's just like a white dude surrounded by like 20 black kids. And it's like, what is this? You are, you are a human plague. You are, you are insufferable. You are so You're fucking useless.

You provide less to humanity than the barnacles on shipping boats. You are such a useless person. That's one of those thumbnails I just wish you were joking about, you know? Like it's so fucked up that like it's insane, you didn't make that up, you know? Yeah, like the zero level of awareness

as a human being to upload that and be like, I'm okay with this, blows my mind. But yeah, so he did, uh... It was like 11 days, I think, or something in the video. Like a week and a big of a big up. we did with our video, which is traveling from like this most southern point of Japan to the most northern point of Japan. He definitely faked 90% of it because he sneaks getting on the bullet train.

And if you ever been on a bullet train, you can't do that. There's absolutely no shot he's pulling that off. There's, there's, you might be able to maybe get through the gate, but it would be so tough. Like it's not the New York subway. You can't just like jump the gate willingly. Oh, fuck no. It is like there are at least like in most like major train stations where you can get the shinkansen, there's at least, there's at least. like two or three dudes who are there making sure you get on. Yeah, there's one train that you don't want to attempt fucking around with and trying to pull that shit on it. That one, you will 100% get caught.

It's like trying to sneak on a plane, you know, it's like, it just doesn't happen. It's very, very, like, tough. So I believe he, because even in the video, he just happens to spawn on the train. Yeah. And obviously, clearly fake, but one thing he did do is that I think he, the thing that pissed me off most about this video,

is he was just begging Japanese people for money. Yeah. when he was already like making money from this video. Yeah. And you know, people, people, it just sucks to know that a lot of people here really push themselves and work horrible working hours for really bad pay. And then some fucking asshole comes along,

ask them for like $20, you know, gets it and then just makes $1,000 off anyway. Yeah, and I think he definitely knew that that is like a very like Japanese thing to do, which is like obviously try and help others need, especially a foreigner in somewhere like Tokyo, right? Where like, there are probably a lot of foreigners who come to like these big cities,

don't know how to get around and maybe ask for like directions and sometimes maybe even ask for like some change or whatever, right? So like, and the whole idea of like, you know, Japanese people like helping out the greater community or helping out, you know, others being a good Samaritan

is very like ingrained in a lot of Japanese people's minds. I think most people will help you out if they, you have no money here. And so taking advantage of that to make a video which you are going to make money off of anyway, also aiding this person in doing illegal shit is just the most scummy fucking thing you can do. Yeah, and that obviously made news in Japan as well.

It was pretty popular. It's just frustrating because it's like, okay, a lot of good world that has been built up from humans in general. It's like, oh, let's just squander. We're out here, fighting the fucking good fight, making sure foreigners get a good name for themselves here and then just a couple of people.

Where you go through so much red tape, like fighting toothed and nail, fighting for our lives just to get permission filming in a place. All it takes as one person, yeah, yeah, all down. Because like, I mean, obviously there's like, I think the thing that pissed me off right, it's not just like, okay, his like Africa video, of course it was like, what you, what you would call a dick move, right?

But then there's, there's like, there's like, with the Japan video, he's just straight up breaking laws. Yeah, right? Yeah, I think at one point in the video, he gets on the bus. He gets on the bus and just refuses to pay and then just gets like, uh, escorted to the police station or something like that. Yeah, I think he thought they were going to drop it because it was 80 yen in the video. Yeah.

was he had begged someone for 500, 600 yen or something, and the fair was 680 yen. So it's about like a 50 cent, 40 cent difference. Yeah. And I think in the video, he thought he was just gonna drop it. Yeah. But that's not how it works.

You can't barter. And worse, maybe the best case scenario for you, the bus driver might feel so sorry for you is like a pathetic human cockroach that you are and he's give you the 80 yen to pay. Yeah. But then it's like,

like none of these scenarios make you look like a human being. that is nice or has any productive tendencies at all. I just think you're just a piece of shit. Yeah, there isn't a single person who looked at that and was like, oh, you know, it's so nice for the bus driver to like, you know, spare him that essence change.

You know, he's probably living a hard life. No. In Japan, it's probably like, can't cough it up. Fuck you. Yeah, pretty much. You're not getting off. That's just you follow by the rules in this country. And if you don't follow by the rules, then you're fucked.

Yeah. And yeah, like you say, just it pisses me off when you get, you see someone or you see like content creators, kind of like taking advantage of the goodwill of just like, one, how non-confrontational Japanese people are, right? Cause it's like, it's like,

sometimes you see this in other countries and you're like, oh, there is no way, there is no shot some of this content would be gotten away with if you film this in America or something. Yeah, that's why I don't feel like, if I ever saw a video like this in the UK, I'd be like, I'm not worried. If he pulled that shit on someone,

I'm sure someone would, he'd fuck around and find out. Yeah, yeah, exactly, right? Which is like why I think a lot of people I don't care if he does this anywhere else. It's like here, it's like, for fuck sake. Like, what are you doing? These people are too nice to you. Is it, you're a human plague?

Yeah, yeah, exactly. And you know, it's, we've, we've, we talk from experience when we've gone through enough of red tape and red hoops, not you, Joe, but even to get like visas to work here and trying to instill something new, like a new idea to like, especially like all the Japanese people. And it just, it's so annoying when I see the coverage

that these kinds of content creators get, whether there is so many people out there that are trying to do things the right way, that have been trying to do things the right way. I mean, I can't imagine anyone who's more pissed about this than Chris is, considering how much he's worked to change the perspective of YouTubers and content creators in Japan.

And that's the shitty thing, right? Is that like negative press is always gonna just have a wider attraction, you know, no matter where the country or the culture is. And it's definitely the case here, because, you know, people like Chris and people like, you know, us can do the best things for the country and try and put a positive impact on how Japanese

people, especially the older generation, not only just view content creators like YouTube and Twitch streamers, but also just like foreigners living here trying to make an honest living in general. All for, you know, what, a pal on the back, you know, maybe less shit talking behind the scenes. Meanwhile, you do, you do one fucking bad thing and you get your face past it on the front page of NHK, you know? Do you think these kinds, do you think we're going to continue you see more of these kinds of people? Oh God, I hope not. But I think so, sadly.

Sadly, I think it's going to happen because I think these two examples especially have just shown. There have been multiple examples like we've talked about. Yeah, yeah. You get instant views if you do this shit Japan. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

If you did this shit in Florida, you'd be the least insane person in Florida. So like it just doesn't, you don't get anything out of it. So if you come to Japan to do this. The scary thing is I think what might happen, I really hope this doesn't happen, is not only are they gonna be more people who are doing this in Japan,

but there are gonna be more people that are just doing this in Asia in general. Yeah. You know, because I think like it's already, you know, kind of an idea, as you said, like, you know, if you did that in places like the UK or America, no one would bat an eye. No one fucking gives a shit.

It's a-one gives a shit. But if you do it in a country like Asia, where like the way that the culture operates is different and it's, you know, fucking something else for people to see of like, oh, you know, how would you be able to do it in Korea? How would you be able to do it in like Thailand? I think the concern has been that they might try and pass some laws around it.

But I don't know. Japan's very weird about passing laws. They do it really fast stealthily. Well, they make a big public thing. It takes 10 years. 10 years. We might do it. We're thinking about it.

Hey, guys, what do you think? And sometimes it just doesn't happen. I don't know what they could change. Because if they could do a law that was like only foreign are not allowed to do it. They'd do it. Oh yeah, yeah. But I think because YouTube is really well built up in Japan.

I think Japanese YouTubers have been very, very mainstream for a very long time and have been making YouTube seem like a much more kind of, I think YouTube is almost, like, viable platform. Yeah, and I think in some sense is like Japan has really adopted YouTube culture really well. Oh yeah, absolutely. In its own sense.

So I don't think they would be very, very hastily, rushing through something half-baked. I think if they were to do something, they'd figure it out. Because I think right now, the way that filming in public works in Japan is that you can film in public if it's without needing to blur

any of one or do anything like that, if it's not for commercial purposes, but obviously for this, it's a lot more complicated. And you have to get permission and stuff like that. It's kind of tough. It's a really weird spot right now. Yeah, and like, I don't know. I think there should be at least

a line drawn in the sand by, the actual platforms. If you break a law and you film it, surely that is like, yeah, I mean, there's a platform now that just invited all that in. So it's kind of hard. I think you'd think the platforms would do better. I'm surprised YouTube, they only just took down

his video. I'm surprised they didn't do. Yeah, why is it, why is it that like people get a pass when it's filmed, but they don't get a pass when it's not filmed? Like, how does that make sense? It's so bizarre with YouTube and how they enforce their rules because like sometimes they'll be so strict on someone

and they'll clamp down. And other people, they get like a slap on the wrist, obviously with their whole doxing situation of recent. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was like one that was like, okay, YouTube, this is a really weird stance to take and also took forever.

Yeah. It's really odd how these platforms really are very slow to the ball sometimes. Well, they just need to stop playing favoritism, right? Which is impossible task to us for. It's like, I think obviously, I think they are doing something kind of right because I've seen what happens when you go the kind of like opposite direction and then when there are clear biases with a platform like Twitch, you know, where you try to please a certain amount of creators and you piss off everyone in the process. You know, because. Yeah.

I think because sometimes, you know, on Twitch and other, I guess Twitch more so because Twitch is a bit more personal and there's less being. creators because YouTube has so many creators. YouTube is so many creators. They're huge, yeah, right? And there are a lot of creators who bring in, there are, I think, like tens of thousands of creators who bring in over a million dollars of revenue year, which are a lot of people that bring in a substantial amount

of money, right? And none of these people you wanna take away all their ads from, because that's a lot of money that YouTube loses that YouTube needs, because holy shit does YouTube cost a lot of money to run. But on Twitch, like, I've noticed that, like, you definitely, if you're a creator that is, is bigger and you have a very good track record.

You definitely get the benefit of the doubt with certain things or they'll be like, okay, just be careful next time. Yeah, because you do, you have that track record and you are a bit more favorable. But obviously, if you, it's such a fine thing to do that because if you give too much leeway, then a lot of the audience, from other audiences

that might see this, might be like, what the fuck? Connor got his cock out, why isn't he banned? Yeah, yeah. That's fucked up. I think there's a case that people were really calling for a band recently where a streamer was driving while texting. And they were kind of like, they had a very good rap. Yeah.

And it took a little while for them to get the ban. But I think everyone unanimously was like, they should get a ban for this. Yeah, yeah. That's just dangerous. Yes. And I think if that didn't happen, and I think it only happened because of the sheer amount of like people being like,

you have to give this person a ban. There's an horrible person to say. Yeah, it's the community pressure, right? Yeah. Yeah. But I think if the pressure wasn't there, I don't think it would have happened. Because it took like two or three days for the band to come through,

if I recall correctly. I mean, you know, there's a lot of instances of like a creator, you know, YouTube, Twitch, or whatever doing something that is very questionable. Yeah, sometimes just straight up, you know, there's also red-handed. Yeah, caught red-handed. And it's not until it gets enough attention

from the community, whether that be on like Twitter or, you know, just YouTube in general, for YouTube to finally be like, oh, they did a bad thing. Oh, yeah, okay, we'll do what you guys say. Thanks, thanks for letting us know. Yeah, it really depends. I don't really fully understand how it works, but I've just noticed that sometimes,

you get a little goodwill here and there. Yeah. Well, it's just how it works, right? Well, it reminds me of like that one TikTok a while ago, he was like British, I believe, who just like filmed himself breaking and entering into like people's houses. Yeah.

And stealing dogs and just like literally committing crimes to the point where he got arrested and like, multiple times. He was in court and the judge asked him if he was gonna do it again. He was like, yeah. Yeah. And they, they, they,

Yeah, he did. Yeah, and like the problem is like, oh my God. The problem is somehow someone like this who is clearly like, not even like being a dick, but just like breaking laws. This is a new level now. This is like someone is breaking the laws

of the country you're in. Yeah. And they can get away with it just because. Because TikTok looked at it and went like, yeah, but do you see how many fucking views the skater? That one, these kids in America were filming themselves doing hit and runs.

What? And they killed a police officer because they hit him on a bike Oh, I heard about them. What? And then when they got arrested, they were like, nah, it's not that serious though, right? Oh, yeah, yeah.

They didn't think I saw this, yeah. Yeah, and like- What? And dude, I mean like, watching it, I was like, dude, sometimes I was like, man, these old people when they talk about kids having it good these days, I was like, man, maybe they're right, maybe they don't get punished enough.

Oh my God. I think some kids go like their whole life in school thing and they just can't be punished. Because like, clearly that's one must have happened here. That's some fathless behavior, bro. How the fuck did, like, these kids commit straight up crimes and think that, like, they'll just get a slap on the wrist? Terrence, please beat your kids. Yo, we need more parents to beat their children. I just, like, I, just gonna say it.

You need to have, as a kid, you need to have that innate fear of the moment when you do something wrong, that that absolute, like, cold sweat passes through your, you know when your parents are about a murder you. Yeah. And I would do that shit of like dropping a bowl. Yeah. So like we need to bring this back. I don't know if we stop doing it.

You need, I need to be straight up scared of doing anything wrong. Yeah. Like, how do- That's why I'm so well-behaved. I, I, I, I don't know. Because every time I think about doing something bad, I can feel the glare of my father about to murder me.

Yeah. And that's just like the environment I was, I grew up in, and like that kind of discipline I feel, just parents, look, I'm not, I'm not gonna teach parents how to parents. I just thought such a boomer saying this. Like I feel like a boomer, but I feel like clearly. But I also feel like I'm right.

People must not be getting disciplined. How does this happen? Okay, for like, just say, none of us are parents here. I'm about a fucking parents, so. None of us are parents here. None of us are parents, but you know how we're gonna be as parents.

So future children, watch your ass. My kid does not get to fuck around like that. Oh no. No, I can. I find out he does anything in school. His life is ruined. Oh, absolutely. I brought him into this world, I can easily take him out.

I'm taking him out of this world. What do you mean? You gotta see and you aren't well behaved. Look, I think the big thing is that just children just need discipline. Yeah. And you know, that doesn't necessarily mean we whip out the fucking belt or whatever. That's all in the fucking 1960s. Double belt. Look, we get the belt and the slipper at the bare time.

We gotta bring it back, we were to overcorrect. Throwing the back scratcher in there every now and then, dude. every now and then, dude. You know, just choose your weapon. That's not what we're saying. But we are saying that some kids just need to learn that there are consequences to actions. I don't know, that's what I'm saying.

You know, Malcolm in the middle, when they misbehaved so much, they had to go to the military. We need to do that. You should do that. I would have not, I would have been very well behaved. Yeah, I mean like, Navy, Army, Air Force, take your picks, son. Oh, God.

You're going to one of them. Do you think, okay, this is going to be a weird question. Do you think kids need fear? Yeah, 100%. Okay, okay. Then let me ask, what is a difference between fear and respect? Because that's a very fine line. That's a very fine line because you can like overshoot

and the kid will just fear you and respect you, but that fear will like overshadow the respect. And then there's the fear that they will lose your respect. And that's kind of like, that's what I'm aiming for. You know, I'd, I want to instance my kids the fear that they're gonna disappoint me, right? Right, right. Not so much that they're gonna fear that I'm gonna.

Okay, well, consider- It's scary, because I think that like, if you could raise the kid the exact same way. I think sometimes you could just get a little fucking satanic little shit. Who's just, no matter what you would have done. Yeah. I think he would have just been absolute human god. He came out evil out of the world. I think it just happens.

Yeah. I mean, there's like, I mean, I think some, some, I, man, I don't know, There's gotta be some people who are just born to be absolute like evil. Yeah, you can be. Someone has to be. I believe that, for sure, yeah. Right? Am I crazy?

I feel like that there's, you could, like, yeah, I feel like there's gotta be a chance of that happening. I don't know. Okay, well then here's a question for you, gone, like, you are in that position where you are very much like that with like your dad, for example, right? Where it's like, gone to fix the evil kid. Yeah.

I'm like, you have no enemies. Trust, trust, trust, you have no enemies. I think I'd get impatient. I think I, I, very, can't, I got on played a long game. The long game? He played a long game. Well, what is the long game?

The kid would be a little shit and gone's like, no, he'll come around. Five years later, he comes around. And it's like, oh wow, he knew. How did you do it? It's like, I just waited. Okay, you must have had that moment, right? Yeah.

Okay, tell me that you've had this moment where your parents have told you, you'll appreciate this when you're older. Oh, every day of my life. And then there is that one thing that you're like, fuck, actually? Yeah, good chunk. Good, good, good,

Actually, thank you mom and dad for forcing me to learn tired because I did appreciate that one I was older. Dude, for me, every day since I moved out. Legit, every day since I moved out, it could be small, tiny little things and I'm just like, oh, now I get it. This is the pain of paying taxes.

I get it now. Oh, this is what cleaning your room is like and your parents not being there to tell you to do it. You just need to do it because no one else is gonna do it. You know, small little things and it's like, yeah, totally. When I was a kid and I was leaving my, parents and my parents were doing everything for me. It's like, I didn't fucking understand it.

Of course I didn't because I never been thrown into that position. But now that I am, and now that I'm a fully functioning adult, I can understand like, oh, okay, my parents were right. What a shocker. And I think it's because of that that my respect grew for them even more so than it was already. Yeah, but like the tough thing as a parent, I feel like is that you just have those fucking years when they're like between the ages of, I'd say, 14 and 19, where they're like, Fuck you, I know the best, I know everything, because I know that's gonna happen, because I thought that until I realized

in my fucking mid-20s, I'm like, fuck, I was a fucking dipshit asshole and I was a dumb ass, I didn't know anything. I think you just gotta, you gotta instill the values that you want them to get and not push too much, because also as a teenager, you gotta have that space, but you also can't let them go crazy

and do hit and run on TikTok. See, I didn't have that period when I was in high school. I was a suck up to my parents. I was, I was like, if a parent, like, if there's teachers' pets, I was the parents' pet. Like, I was like, everything I did, I was like, I don't want to disappoint my mom.

I don't think I, like, spoke to my parents for, like, three years. What? Well, not, like, in a meaningful way. Really? I think I was just like, no. I don't know how my parents did it, but, like, they just gave me that environment

where I was like, oh, yeah, I can just talk about anything with my parents. Well, my parents did. I think I was just a little shit. I think I just didn't want it. And I think that I just needed to figure that out myself. Did your dad beat you? It's such a good out of four.

I'm ex-book. This is like the armchair psychologist. I just didn't know. I like the color orange. Did your dad beat you? Yeah. Real question. No, the only thing that my dad did do

is that occasionally if we were up too late, he would come up with the slipper and hit us on the butt with it. Oh, that's nothing. That's Charles play. What do you mean? What did you get in fucking WrestleMania? Oh, dude, I got a full fist.

What's that? Yeah, man. That's too much. That's too much. But like my dad was really, okay? My dad was really, I'm not saying my dad was violent, okay? What the fuck, full fist? Yeah, but like he, I don't know,

he was a fucking like, Shaolin monk with this shit because like he would, he would like throw the fist like either like on the shoulder or just like, you know. Yeah, just like one of those, right? But he did it in a way where it didn't hurt. It was just a lot of force. Right.

You know what I mean? So like, when you punch him on the shoulder, like being like stopping a little shit like that, he would punch it. it in a way where it wouldn't like leave like a mark or anything like it wouldn't like hurt immediately, but it would push it so bad. But it would, but it would push me back.

And that force is what scared me, okay? For the record, yeah, I know my dad watches trash taste. Dad, I realize you didn't beat me up as a child, okay? I know there wasn't any like child endangerment shit happening, but from just like that little thing of like realizing that my dad is like a, literal force to be reckoned with. Yeah.

Right? Is what instilled that fear in me of respect. And I think that's what kind of discipline me, knowing that like, I don't want to see my dad be like that to me because that clearly upsets him and I don't want to see my parents upset. Yeah.

You know, so like he kind of did it in a way which I think it works for me, obviously, because I have a lot of respect for my parents, obviously. But, you know, whenever I got into any bad things, then, like, I would have that fear. You never want to fall into that fallacy of like it works for me

because sometimes, yeah, Sometimes people would turn out like very well-rounded individuals. Of course. In spite of some of the things that happen in their childhood. And I would say that a lot of the times, you know, this is something that a lot of people figure out is that a lot of the times you can hold onto scars for things

that you don't even know you hold onto scars for until you like grow way older and maybe like talk to a therapist or something. And you're like, wait. I would be perpetually scared about that. Yeah, yeah. And you're like, wait, I thought I was a balance individual until I started talking to people and I'm like, wait, did I turn into this person in spite of what happened or because of what happened, you know? So, you know, you never want to fall into that fallacy. No, of course. And that's kind of like what's, that's a hard, that's the hard thing of what you have to try and figure out as you grow older because you've what you want to do, or at least my life philosophy is, you know, as a kid, you're like, my parents are the best. My parents are superhuman. They're perfect. And then you realize as you grow older that, hey,

they were just trying to be the best person they can be and learn from their parents. And when you realize that you're going to be that same person, you're going to try and take the good thing from your parents and try to learn from the mistakes that made as well. That's kind of like the life cycle of what I think is being a good parent and being a good child. Because I think the worst thing you can do

is just learn nothing from your parents and don't try to improve on them. Or something I think is equally bad is that when I've seen so many people where their parents have done some kind of fuck up or done something bad that's fucked them up. And then they kind of like pivot and go 360 degrees the opposite direction and makes the completely opposite mistake.

360 degrees would be the same direction. So 180 degrees. 180 degrees in the opposite direction. He spins around, starts moonwalking. Spins around, spins around. Yeah, because like for me, I remember, like, I remember the fear of disappointment was always greater

for me as a person than the fear of like any kind of like, oh, I could get like, you know, I could get like a slap or something or like, you know. Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. To me the threat of like, let's say like violence, not that that really ever happened in my household, but like the, like I was always more scared

of disappointing my parents' expectations of me than I ever was like, I think at some points I'd be like, I would prefer the, I would prefer the, I would prefer the instant gratification of just being like, you know, just, just come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, mom, just give me a slap on the risk, please, please. Yeah, see.

That's the instant gratification, please. Cause like that's when I knew, for example, that like my parents were like actually like proper mad at me is the moment when they wouldn't resort to violence. When they would, they would have, what I like to call the silent disappointment. You know what I mean? Like, we're like the quieter

and more like, calmer tone that they speak to me in, signify to me immediately, oh, I'm actually in like deep, deep shit right now. Like, they're so angry that they can't even get angry at me. Yeah. My dad had this thing that we called the murder stare. Oh yeah. Because there's three of us, three brothers.

So we all had, we all knew. And if you gave you the stare, you were done. You were done. It was like, Empress hockey, just like, yeah. Yeah, you were like, oh, no, you knew it was gonna, my dad hated that. He hated that we called it that. But it was, it felt like you were murdered.

It felt like, that. My dad used to threaten me with, uh, fucking, so, I don't know if I've talked about this on the podcast. When me and my sister were really young, I'm talking like less than five years old. Yeah. Whenever we, whenever we, whenever, because it only works. I don't think I remember anything below the age of five. Okay, this is the one thing I remember, uh, because he used to say it all the time. Whenever we would like say something that like he didn't agree with or like we would ask too much from him, my dad would say this one thing, which is, don't make me take you to the bridge.

What? And that's all he had to say for us to be like, no, not the bridge! Because I don't know how it came up with it, but like, in our dumb, less than five-year-old childhood brains,

we had envisioned this like, really scary bridge where like if you cross it, you die or something. Or like, if you cross it, something bad happens. And my, and I...

The most Joey dad thing over there. Yeah, yeah. And my dad, I think, overheard me and my sister talking about this. We maybe sort of sort of like a storybook or something. I don't know what it was.

Maybe the three Billy Goads Groff or some shit, you know. But like there was this like bridge we were like scared and I guess my dad overheard him was like perfect ammo. So now, so then every time we were like, dad, can you buy us like blah, blah, blah, can you take us, blah, blah, it's just like, don't make me take you to the bridge. You go to the fucking bridge.

And then we were like, I'm sorry, don't take us to the bridge. I swear anything but the bridge. We spare us, not the bridge. Your dad's very opportunistic man. Oh my dad was smart as fuck with that. I'm using that on my kid. That's genius.

That's genius. The bridge, it's genius. Because it's such an open threat that doesn't resolve anything because, like, or it doesn't resort to anything because there is no bridge. But just saying you're going to go to that bridge is the, all the threat you need. Yeah, it's terrifying. I still remember, some people call it trauma. I call it good parenting.

That's like, I'm gonna kill you, I'm gonna punch you. Yeah. I'll take it to the bridge. I'll do all. Jesus. Don't be a little shit. Oh my God, oh my Lord. And look, look who it turned into.

I became the man that my dad wished for, hopefully. I think just the one thing that my parents, I really am glad they did is that they just showed an interest in most things I was doing, even if they didn't give a fuck, really. But they would always show interest. And I think that's why maybe then, I was scared to disappoint them

because I knew they were genuinely interested. And so then if I did do bad in school, I'd go, I'm telling them like, I didn't do good in this, I'm sorry. And then they'd be like, ah, well, no food, sorry. No, kidding. No, food. No, I think, yeah, just, I'm really grateful they show you.

Honey, get the ball in chain. It's hard, it's hard because like showing interest in, I think I, if a kid came to me, it was like, man, my macaroni art was great, I'd be like, okay. I can do better. Yeah, I don't, I don't even know what the, okay, I, like, I'm trying to remember why I was like so scared of, like, disappointed my parents,

because it wasn't like they actually openly showed any disappointment. Like, if I got a bad, grade in school. You just knew that they weren't proud or something. Okay, like here's the thing, right? I think this is like one of the things I'm just like realizing now as a core memory. They're like, we don't care. They told me we don't care what grade you get as long as you knew that you tried the hardest.

So every time, so every time I came in with a bad grade. That wouldn't work on every kid. I don't know why that works for me though. That is an Asian parent method if I've ever heard it. My mom used to say the exact same thing. Did they? That's the long con, dude. That's the long con.

It's the long con. So every time I got a bad grade in school, they would just ask me, they just asked me, did you try as hard as you could have? And I would just like fucking panic. And I'm just like, I knew, I knew, because like, I knew when I didn't try, then I was disappointed in myself.

And I think, I think what they like five head taught me was that they would, they weren't the ones that were disappointed to me. I was the one that was disappointed to myself. Yeah. Achieving my full potential. And I'm just like, that's fucking fire. It's that question of like, we're not mad, but are you satisfied?

Yeah. Didn't think so. And that's what started the grind set, maybe. That's how you get into the grind set. Yeah. So like my parents did a lot of things right, I think. They, you know, some things I'm, I hope to learn from them and some things I, you know, would leave in their generation. their generation. See, I think that method as well, though, of like that making you realize

whether you're satisfied with it or whether you're disappointed in the results that you made is not only a really good thing to like teach or instill into kids while they're still in school, but also like it's just great for like building up this like self-motivation mindset as an adult. Yeah. You know, because like you wake up in the morning and you're just constantly on that idea. Like, you know, it's a double-edged sword, right? Like you'll obviously always have that like hunger to like strive for better, but there's also that double-edged sort of, you're never going to be satisfied with the way you currently are in life, right? So it's, it's difficult, like, teetering on, like, whether that's a good thing or a bad thing. For some people, that's a really good thing. Like,

you know, for like people like us, for instance, who we obviously, without us being motivated to do it, work isn't going to be done, money isn't going to be made. Yeah. But, you know, for someone who's working at, like, an office job, that's not really a mindset that works. It's going to be a weird question, but at which points in your lives did you realize your parents were human beings? What do you mean? I should like that. Okay, I was going to throw it out to see if anyone get the, got the vibe. That's a very open-ended question.

I know what you're saying, because you see your parents as like infallible growing up. Oh, I remember, I thought like they were super humans. Yeah, you feel like they know everything. Yeah. They brought you into this world. They can, they, they, they, they can take you out of this one. They figure, they provide, they do everything. So like to you, they're like, they are like gods almost, right?

Because they are. Like they control everything you do. Yeah. And then you get to like 18 and then if your parents says something that isn't right, and then you can just Google it and you find out that's wrong. And you're like, huh. For me, it was probably when I realized that although my parents really heavily pressured me to go to university, they didn't go to university themselves.

That was probably the moment where I'm just like, oh, is that why you guys want me to go? Because like you guys didn't or, you know, and that's the moment when I realized I was like, oh, I'm doing something that my parents couldn't even do. And that made me realize like, oh shit, like my parents aren't perfect, you know, they look perfect, they act perfect around me,

but they're just like everyone else. Yeah. So that's probably the moment for me. What about you? That's, wait, why did them not go to university make you realize that? Because I thought they were just like perfect. Like the way

They, because the way they led their life was just like, you know, all the right things happened. They got to like all the necessary stops. And but that also humped that also like humbled me at the same time being like, oh, I can be just as happy as my parents without necessarily going down that route. Yeah. And that kind of made me look at them as humans

in kind of a different light. Yeah. You know, I think there was a moment where like I kind of like drifted away from my parents for like, like during like the universe. Which which, which, which, That generally happens when you're like late teens. Yeah, like late teens, early adulthood.

You wanna find yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. I'm trying to find myself, you know, I was trying to find myself. And I remember having this conversation with my mom, like, like a bit after that period where, you know, me and my mom, like, I used to be like the biggest fucking mama's boy

of all time, of course I was. And then afterwards I kind of like did the 180 and I'm just like, actually, I'm an individual. I don't need to talk to my mom at all. My mom, I've left that part of my life behind me. I remember having this conversation. And then I remember having a conversation with my mom. And then she just started talking about some of her like insecurities. And I just remember like thinking, huh, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a human trait. That's not a mom trait.

You're this beacon of happiness. Yeah. I'm talking about insecurities. My mom's always happy. She's always always, behind the motherboard, there is a beating heart. And then I just, I just, it just like hit me like a ton of bricks like, oh, my mom is a human beast. with insecurities like me and she's not perfect. With feelings. Yeah, and then that was like, that started a path to me kind of like getting real close to my mom and my parents again.

And I'm like real happy that, like, me realizing my parents were just like human beings who were very much infallible and had insecurities like me, I was like, oh, I get along with them way better than I ever did as a kid because it's like totally different now. But some people, you know, some parents go through their entire lives never opening up that side of themselves to their children. Exactly. Exactly. So,

like, I think you were put in a very rare position. Yeah. Well, I don't know if it's rare. Would you say it's more common than not? I think it's not that. I mean, it really depends. I think, I think, it happens as often as it should. Yeah. I don't think it's as widespread as it should be. Yeah. Because it's, there's, there's, it's always a fine balance between seeing your parent as like a parent, you know, versus seeing them as just another person like yourself, who maybe one day we're going to be parents as well and our kids are going to look at us the same ways.

And I'm just wondering, you know, was there ever a point, I should probably ask this to my own parents, was there ever a point where you were like scared, I would, as a kid, suss out the facade, be like, wait a minute, my parents are just people. They aren't super humans. They aren't gods. It's just, you know, you just load up that real life game

of Amongus. You just say someone's not right here. Someone's a little suss right now. I think maybe when you're a parent, you just have to play that role for so long of being like this figure that is so reliable. Sometimes you just think that like you've been doing it for so long that you have to be that, right?

Like you have to, you can't be this person as emotions or shares. Yeah. But I think, you know, obviously I think a lot of kids appreciate it, especially when they're older, that you can talk to them about more personal things. Go, once this episode goes live, I'm just going to expect a couple. My dad's going to kill me. Let's, okay, let's email to Jerry. Son, I did not hit you as a, I did not beat you as a child.

I dominated you. Remember it. I won't go away. All right. Let's, let's start some beef right now with our parents, all right? What? No, I'm scared. No, no, no. This is the, this is the, he's not. This is the real question.

Do you want me on death row? Okay, this is the real question. We're in this together, guys. All right, here's the question. Okay. Do you think you're more like your dad or your mom? Oh, fuck. I'm 100% more like my mom.

You're more like you? Yeah, 100%. How so? I'm just way more like her. I'm just, I'm more chatty. Yeah. I share a lot of traits with her. I don't look like my dad, I love my mom.

Maybe I'm, maybe I look like the mailman too. Really? Because I think I think I'm more like my dad. I think you're more like your dad. Yeah. Do you know, okay. Are you the same way, Joey? Because I feel like when we were kids,

we might have been more like our moms, or at least I was like way more like my mom. And my mom was like, yo, he's gonna grow up and be just like me. Dude, I looked like my mom when I was little. I think I actually have a photo of like me when I was a joke. Can you go get my phone? But like, I don't know if this is just like a Ha-Fu thing,

but like boys who are born Ha-Fu, like they grow up looking Japanese as fuck. And then one day their Western jeans is just like, Let me stop that for a second. Let me see, let me show it. Because like, I think I haven't on my phone. Anyway, keep talking while I find this. Yeah, like, as a kid,

I always felt like I was gonna grow up to be like my mom. And then as I grew older, I don't know when it happened. It was just such a subtle thing. Yeah. But then I just started turning more and more into my dad. And I had this moment where it was like a month ago or something where I was just like, it was in, when we were in England,

and Sydney was like, you walk like your dad. And I was like, what you mean I walk like my dad? And she's like, I don't know, just your posture. That's when you know it's game over. And that's how, that's when you realize, oh, it's game over. I've officially transformed perfectly into my dad now. Okay, this is me when I was three.

Oh my God. That's true. You do look way more like your mom in that photo. I look Japanese as fuck, right? Yeah. What the heck? This is the same. You rockin the bowl cut.

Yeah. That's because I hated haircuts. Oh, for you. Yeah. But like, yeah, no, totally. Like, I think the moment when you start to, I think we talked about this in a previous episode, but like the moment when you start to,

just without even thinking, imitate the exact same things you've seen your dad do? Do you make the same sounds of your dad? Oh, 100%. Like, yeah. I'm trying to stop that. 100%. Whenever I do anything that my parents do,

I'm like, I know I did it. I'm like, I gotta stop that. Dude, yeah. Like, dude, the other day when, when we were having the Halloween party at our house, I physically stopped myself from saying, oh, fuck, I'm shit-faced. Like, I had to physically stop myself from doing that

because I'm like, that's something my dad would do. It's very charming when you did that do that. Yeah, it is. It's charming when my dad does it. It's not charming when I do it. It's funny. So you reach the point where you're like, shit, I'm doing the things my parents do.

Yeah. I should stop that. And then I've come to the point where I'm like, but it's just so natural. It just, I'm fighting against my blood. bloodline here. I just need to do it. That is true. I'm gonna get to that point, probably in like my late 30s where I'm just like, you know what? I'm probably won't even be drinking alcohol and I'll be like, oh fuck I'm shoot face. Just tired. It went for that right moment to just like bring that out. Exactly. Yeah. So, but like I say now I'm definitely more like my dad. You're more like your dad? I'm more like my dad. So you're the only one that's more like your mom. I guess so. I wonder why. What about your brothers? Like are they more like one of the parents? More like my dad. All of them? Yeah, I think so. Yeah.

So everyone just, my older brother, he's kind of half, half, half, I'd say. Right, right. He has very discernible traits from both. Right, right, right. But I think this is my job's yapping. My job's talking. So I, not said, my mom was the much more talkative one. Right.

So I think I, you know, I, I, my mom's always very eager to talk. And then my dad will be like, he'll be like, my dad's my dad's my dad. And he'll just be like, hey, dude. My dad talks. Yeah, my dad does talk. My dad, but my dad's from the generation as well. He just can like fix anything and build anything. Right.

Because right now he's just remodeling the whole house. And he knows how to do most of the stuff by himself? And I'm like, how, how do you know this? What skill treated this? How did you speck into this? Yeah. Like I feel like I'm such a useless man. He's in the building class for sure.

Yeah, like I've got my drill bits. I'm just like, what do I, what can I use them on? Huh? Oh, nothing. Nothing. Nothing in Japan. Okay. It's being bred out of us guys.

Yeah. Wake up. They're trying to, everybody. They're trying to get it out of us, Ben. They're not letting us use our tools. It's not DIY anymore, man. I want to DIY so bad. I just want to make a shitty table. Is that how you know we're getting old?

It's just a skill I want to get better at. Like, I feel like it's like a RuneScape class that I've been putting off for too long. And I'm new right there with you. I've got to do it. I recently found this, like, YouTube channel of this Japanese guy who creates like real life clay sculptures of Pokemon.

That's sick. But like really, like, amazing. he's in quality and he's like films all of his like, you know, process in doing it. And the entire time I'm just like, fuck, I wish I could do that. Just wanna build a table. I just see how it feels.

I wanna build something without an instruction manual. Yeah. You know, I mean, no IKEA. It doesn't count. Amazon doesn't count. I just wanna build something with the raw materials and go, all right, let's see what, that just sounds like a fucking video idea.

I think, I think it's just half the population that was destined to be amazing builders have now become coffee yet. experts on TikTok. How did that trend star? You see all the comments are like, if coffee enthusiasts spent 1% of their brain power on advancing humanity, we'd be flying by now.

I think we'd actually have killed cancer. If coffee enthusiasts have like, had spectators of the medical field. They'll create mini black holes to make the perfect espresso pool. So just activate your Gravitron cannon to allow the espresso to pour evenly. through the titanium filter.

It is fucked. How intricate these espresso things are. It's so fucked. God damn. I saw the one of like the evolution of the different kind of like contraptions that they built. The one with the fucking they like, the thing that they used to like spread out the coffee.

Just spread out the coffee. And it's like a Rolex mechanism just to like spread it out perfectly. Oh like the little ones with the little hairs on it. Yeah, the ones with the hairs that just started out as like, a little like pine cone that was like 3D printed and companies made like advances to that.

And they got to the point where they like had multiple gears just turning around so you get the perfect spread. I love how the, the, a lot of the comments are always like, that one coffee friend who says that making coffee at home is cheaper. That's me, I'm becoming that friend.

Yeah. I just like my machine. I just like grinding it. I don't like all this bullshit. With the moment we gotta like temp it down, we gotta like fucking fluffing it around, putting in like another filter. I'm like, this is too much shit to clean. Yeah. I like my thing because it's like a Lego thing. I make the coffee. It's like John Wick loading

his gun except I'm loading up the milk frotha. Yeah. It's like three parts and they all dishwash and then I'm done my coffee, I just take them in the dishwasher. And I'm like, this is easy. Yeah. This is great. I do the grinding and the tamping down, but like I don't go anything beyond that. Grinding is great. Like actually like the one thing I say that changed my coffee game and made coffee taste so much better is just grinding beans. Yeah. It's so easy to do. And it makes coffee tastes so much better and fun. Great way to wake up in the morning. It's dude, the smell.

Yeah. But I'm not going down this. Maybe I will. Maybe if I had a long of free time. I can see you go down now. Like when you stop the YouTube grind and you're like, fuck, I have half an hour in the morning or an hour or however long it takes to make some of these coffees.

Because I swear, I watched some of these TikToks. Once he stops the YouTube grind, he's gonna start the coffee grind. No, I, no, no, no, no. I gotta do something else. I think some of these coffee makers could go on to like the end of one piece by the time they could make make an express like, I don't know how many steps they put into that, but it is insane,

but they seem happy. They say, oh, if they're satisfied. There are two types of coffee drinkers, people who just want the caffeine intake and just some the people. Some people who wanna discover a new dimension of coffee making. Is everyone who still drinks?

I don't know. Instant coffee? Instant coffee. Yeah, I know. We're just, we're rich. We don't drink. We don't drink. That was the most roundabout way of saying,

we're privileged, right? We don't eat. We're privileged. Not a string instant coffee coffee. Yeah, we're not, we're not, uh, can we go back to instant coffee? No. I can't, I can't go back.

It tastes horrible. Yeah, it's bad. I mean, it is because like, like, I think at least around where I live, there is, there is a lot of like brostries, like, like local ones that have really cheap beans that if you just buy really shitty grinder and you wanted to do like a French press or filter it yourself.

Yeah, no. It's, it's like as cheap as getting the giant instant coffee. That's, that's why I like asked just because it seems like, it seems like it's been cheaper and cheaper to get like good coffee. You know, even like, even very cheap coffee places have pretty decent coffee, at least in Europe, you know, at least, I bought like a, I bought like a massive bag of coffee beans the other day from Costco, which would probably set me back, like, if I drink one cup a day or probably maybe like a month and a half, two months worth. It's like 1,500 yen. And it tastes really fucking good.

I think people just care a lot more about coffee now than they did 10 years ago. And we also are like, are aware of how to make coffee taste better. It's the TikToks. Well, first of all, the TikToks, yeah. The TikToks, yes. Well, okay, it's the TikTokers and the hipsters that have like, you know, we clown on hipsters a lot,

but they've changed so much about what has become readily available. Like, do you remember, I don't know when this started to happen, but do you remember when did hipsters start to become the trendsetters? I mean, they've always been. That's the point. They've always been the trendsetters and then we've clowned on them and then we're like, wait a minute.

Actually, this thing kind of slapped, though. Did you see that, um, this, I'm talking about hip says, did you see that one TikTok of that guy who's an L.A. guy in California. And, in New York. Yeah.

He's like, so like, what's the deal with New Yorkers, man? Like I, I went to, you know, in California and L.A., if I asked for a scooped bagel gluten-free, there's no problem. They're like, yeah, thank you. I asked for it in New York, and he said,

I'm not fucking doing that. Have you heard what a scooped bagel is? No. Oh my god, this piss me out. What the fuck is it? A scooped bagel is where you get the bagel and you scoop out the bread. So what, you just left with the outside of it?

The shell. Why? Exactly. Wait, what? Do you fill in that scooped part? Well, because obviously the bagel, you would normally put like, you'd kind of squeeze it like something. Yeah, like piece of bread, right?

The idea is that you can remove some of the carbs and calories and still get like the sensation of eating a bagel. How about you just not eat a bagel? Yeah, and I think a lot of, One of the internet reacted very viscerally and were like, what the fuck, I would kick you out. People were like, you're lucky you didn't get killed

in New York. It was an insult to bread. I feel like you shouldn't be committed. You're wasting bread. Don't be committed to the bread train if you're gonna ask them to throw away half of it. Yeah. Like what do they do with that bread?

Presumably throw it away or maybe composted or give it to someone or feed it to animal. I don't know something. Bakers all over the wall are fucking frothing at the mouth right now. I feel like it's just, a hate crime. Yeah. Against breadmakers.

Yeah. That's so rude. Just, if you don't want to eat cups, then stop fucking eating bagels. Throwing away the crust on a pizza. I mean, I mean, not looking at anyone in particular. I mean, I don't, I don't have a horse in this race guys. Scooped pizza.

Can I get my pizza scooped please? Can I get my pizza crustless? Like a bagel place and being like, hey, remove all of the hard work. Yeah. Go fuck yourself. Remove the thing that's in the name of the name of it. of your store. But the guy like seemed,

I think it was the guy seemed so upset that the guy was very angry that he didn't wanna do this. And I think that's what kind of made people like, well yeah, I don't know entitled to this man to ruin his bread. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean like, I'm trying to think other trends have like popped up recently that wasn't there when I was like there growing up. Like I remember. Everything. Yeah. Anything on TikTok. I thought like Craft beer was a fad at first.

Craft beer which didn't exist when I was growing up. It just didn't exist. Yeah. Yeah. And then like, I remember. I think it was very hard to brew beer at home. But obviously the technology has gotten so much better to brew it at home. Yeah.

And obviously canning. You think the coffee makes for that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, you can, you know, you can also like can beer now. That is something that is accessible and you can do that on a very small scale. Whereas canning, canning stuff before, it was like a very, very expensive thing. And you did these giant machines to do.

And so that's why, like, still in a lot of places they, you like, craft beer. it's, what is it, fuck, it's either cask or it's in bottles normally. Yeah, actually no, bottling is very expensive as well. What am I saying? There's a different way you would score it. I know, basically, yeah, I'm going off from one there. Yeah, yeah, because like, I'm trying to think about what is, like,

it is basically the hipsters that started a lot of these trends that, you know. People get passionate about something. I certainly thought Crawfeyer was a fad when it's so first side popping up, but then I don't know if something just changed my brain to be like, actually it tastes pretty good, just to have a fucking budwiser. or a saw he with everything.

People just get bored of having the same goddamn beer because like beer drinkers, you know, for a long time, it was kind of like you had like three options. Yeah. Whatever you went to your local place. Yeah. It's kind of nice having like a rotating selection of stuff.

But also sad when you get a really nice craft beer and then it's gone. Yeah. Yeah, it's always just like takes time, right? And it's like, like, who knows? Three years from now I might come up to someone being like, wait, you get your bagels unscoops? What the fuck is wrong with you?

You know what was, uh, So I went to TwitchCon last week. Yeah. In Vegas, I, nowhere does draft beer. It's all bottled. Really? Yeah. It was like barely anywhere.

I think there's only one place I could find it that had draft beer, but nowhere else had draft beer. But nowhere else had draft beer. Hmm. And I just, I like, I like, hey, what do you have on, what do you have on tap? Because I'd much rather have something that I maybe wouldn't drink from a draft than something from a bottle that I would drink because I'm like, I just want to, it's normally tastes way better. But nowhere had it.

No, like, it's called a faucet actually. Yeah, Americans just don't, that beer game is so bad. Yeah. So what did you drink? What I drank? I normally just would get bottled beer. Like, re bottled beer?

No, bottled beer. What? They pour it out of the cake and then they just, it's not a Californian thing? Yeah, can you scoop the beer out, please? Can you get my beer scooped? Can you shake the carbonation out please? Yeah, I like my beer.

Uncarbonated. I mean, a lot of the drinks are bad. So I was like, I'll just take a bottled beer of, I don't know, an IPA or Goose Island or something. They had that everywhere. So I had that. Oh, Guse Islands, that's, yeah. Yeah, it's okay.

It's better than a Budweiser. What do you guys think of La Croy or Seltzer water? I like it. I hated it at first and then the hipsters got me. Fucking new. Same thing with, I was like, when I told you guys, you should try this white claw thing.

Yeah. Same thing with the, White Claw, I was like, what the hell is this shit? I don't want to drink it. End of our LA trip. I was obsessed. Well, it's because you can just kind of, you can go to a party and like if you have to drink or you feel obliged to drink, which you know, you obviously shouldn't have to. I've gone to that. Yeah, I said the progression for me was crazy with White Claw. Like, it started with like, what the fuck is this like, cell, alcohol cells. This is bullshit. Now I'm at that point where I go to a friend's party and I'm just, I judge them on what flavors they have.

It's definitely going to take off. So you only have the lemon. The fuck is. What is wrong with you? It's gonna catch on here. I'm surprised there hasn't already caught on here. There's so many low calorie alcohol options here. You need to get in on that train. That's a million dollar right here. I'm sad that he hasn't caught on in the UK.

Yeah, the UK is still in that phase of like clowning on white claw. Cause you can't even get it at like every supermarket. It's only like some select supermarkets and every time I've been caught drinking a white in the UK and I get beat up. Everyone's like, you've changed. Wow. Wow. This is because we have such good cider and such good beer and it's like, man, I, why,

Why would you want to drink that? But I get it. It's perfect for a country like here, though. Like 100%. Because like- Japan would love it. Yeah. But because they- are so many sparkling water drinks.

Yeah, they already have like Horoioia and stuff like that, right? Like, we're almost there. Hore-oi is just, that's just juice. That's a juice with a tiny bit of alcohol in it. Just to make you feel- That's my first alcohol. Yeah.

Well, it's called Horeoi, right? Which is like buzz. Not even buzz. It's like, I feel a bit warm. Yeah, yeah, right? It's like, yeah. My body temperature went up. Oh, yeah.

So obviously I went to Vegas and I went to Twitchcom. Yeah, how was that? I heard a lot of talks. What talks did you hear? Tell me the tales. I've just saw a bunch of articles of like what was happening, you know,

during that time. What was happened? Oh, just a whole slew of things. Too many things, in fact. I don't understand this is a dig? Yeah, what are you? What did you hear about? It's not a dig.

I just like, I just saw a lot of like things that were picked up by articles. You said that like, You know, I don't know, some tea happen, man. Give me, give me the tea. Dude, it's Twitchcott, of course tea happened. I don't know the specifics though, but I don't know.

Let's hear from the guy who actually went there. Was there? I don't know. I mean, I was at my booth the whole time, so I didn't hear anything. Right, right. So yeah, I had a booth and it was kind of a disaster really. Well, no, well, I got full story.

So I was gonna do this video, well, the stream where it's gonna be like a human crane game. So like someone could get in the claw. Right. And then I'd be like the host, and we'd be streaming it, we'd have all different types of games, and we'd be using the claw

in all different types of ways and there'd be prizes and stuff that people could win. It's gonna be really fun. Sure. So we booked this space that was like 30 by 40 square feet, which is pretty big. Yeah.

Like 10 by 12 meters, and like that? I don't know what it is in meters. Something about 40 in meters. So yeah, and then we had a production team working on it and we were trying to get sponsors for it. And we had like one sponsor who was down, Pari shout out to them, sick. And then we were gonna get more,

but it was really tough. Like the sponsors just didn't wanna sponsor anything TwitchCon. And it wasn't just because it was like ball pit, physical related. It was just because like a lot of sponsors just didn't wanna be a part of TwitchCon. For whatever reason. And it was really tough and then I was like,

okay, well, I'm gonna lose money, but that's fine because I think it's a really cool idea. Sure. But then the cost started getting like really, really, like crazy and got to the point point where I would have lost like 200 plus thousand dollars, which is like so ridiculous. Average nine in Vegas. Yeah. So I threw it all in Vegas, basically. I put it all on red. Anyway. Um, and so I was like, okay, well, I can't do this anymore. I got to pull the plug.

Problem is I'd already like paid for certain things like the booth space I had to lock down. And that was, I'd already paid for that. Um, and, uh, I also wanted to do, I also paid, I had to pay for some of the creative stuff that we'd already done. So I was already down quite a lot of money. And then I had the space that I had nothing to do with. And I was like, well, I should do something with it because I feel like I'm going to Twitchcon anyway.

It would be really sad if there's just an empty square and I didn't do anything with it. And I was like, okay, well, the only thing I can think of that is literally zero staff or like one staff member or two at most is just, I'll just do ar slash place, but in real life. Like I'll just have three white walls and you can come drawing it.

because I thought, okay, it can't be that expensive to build fucking three walls. Turns out it is fucking expensive for three walls at a convention. There's just so much, like, dumb-ass fees in these convention halls that they make you as an exhibit to sign up to as we found out with Anime Expo.

But as I found out, even more so with this con, like, you know, when you have a booth, we didn't need a floor for any of it. It's just three walls. but you have to pay for carpet to be put down. Okay. And it's like $10,000 for a carpet to be put down. It's fucked.

Yeah. It's like what is this fucking like gold-ass plated carpet? What is this? Why is it $10,000? It's because it's like union labor and other stuff. Persian carpets. It's ridiculous. It's so ridiculous.

So like there's so many weird fees. And so ended up building three white walls still costs me like 60 grand. Which is crazy. Which is crazy. But I was like, yeah, it's insane. And I was like, fuck it, let's just do it because I wanna do something. And I don't care if I end up losing

even more money on this now. Because I'm already so much money in the whole, fuck it, I may as just get something out of it. Yeah. The same energy as like, gamblers. Yeah. Not even a gambler. I'm already this far.

That also happened, God. I was like, fuck it, let's do this. Let's fucking build it. Like, let's just, I'll have something cool that I at least can walk away from and be like, I have something I can stream. I have some kind of content. And the initial sponsor, Pari,

was still down sponsor this. So I was like, okay, let's, let's do this then. And so that was really, I was really grateful they did that because I helped kind of fund that and pay a bit of those costs. So, yeah, we ended up, we were like, fuck it, let's do it. And it was going to be like a, so you're going to need visuals now. I'm really down. Sorry, it was going to be a square, but remove one of the walls. So you can enter through that wall and there'll be three walls. Right. And it would have been really cool. Obviously, on the outside, there's only one way to come in, but I didn't care about that. I was like, fuck it. Like, it'll be cool to just have

three like walls surrounding you and it'll look great on the YouTube thumbnail. It'll be really cool. And then, so I sent off that design and they were like, cool, cool, yeah, we'll get that built. So the day before TwitchCon, I go to the con, which is all also, by the way, there was a fucking nightmare getting my badge at this con. They should do what AX did. I come with I'm giving credits to AX, but they mail out the badges beforehand. Yeah.

Yeah. Dude, it was like four hours for me to get my badge because everyone was useless. Nobody could help me. But apparently my badge had already been printed, which didn't. make any sense. And then everyone just kept telling me to go to someone else. It was just such a mess. It was so bad.

I've, by far the worst badge pickup experience of any kind of ever had in my life. Please fix that next time. What a shocker. Please, it's like partners, right? You're not printing off that many partner badges. Why can't you mail them? You know all the addresses of the partners

because they have to put the address down for Twitch anyway. Why can't you just mail these badges off and just have them there? This feels like a no-brainer and avoiding like a bunch of, and like fan meetups at the, like, there's no brain. Yep.

So I go to the con the day before and I go to, I'm trying to find my booth. I don't know where it is. So I'm looking around for like what is a very white looking booth. And I see like this thing and I'm, I see like the, what I think is my booth. So I guess this guy, because there's a few white panels on the floor, but nothing's been built yet. And I asked the guy, I'm like, hey, uh, is it the, is the sea dog booth? And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, oh, cool, cool.

I was like, you're building like a, a square, right, without one wall. he's like, no. I was like, what are you building? He's like, I'm building a plus. I was like a plus. What do you mean you building a plus? I was like, I never fucking signed off on a plus.

The fuck is this? Because I'm thinking, I only have one camera to time lapse this. Yeah. How the fuck am I gonna, like all four walls of the plus? How am I gonna time lapse all of that? Sorry, Spat. So I'm like, Jesus Christ.

I'm like, what the fuck? So I call up, I'm like, hey, what the fuck's happening? Why are they building a plus? And so apparently what ended up happening was the middleman we were using just completely didn't forward the design. And then they just ended up going with just one they made up.

Okay. And I was like, this is crazy. So they just started building this. There's nothing we could do. Because they didn't have any of the materials now to build what we needed to build. So I'm sitting there. Day one, I get there. I'm already down 100 plus K on this idea.

And then I get there and they can't even build a fucking square, a blank square. And I'm like, holy shit, this is cursed. Like, this is meant to be the biggest failure of all time. Like, why is this going? so wrong. Like I'm being, like I'm being punished for no damn reason. At least the black jack tables will go great for me tonight. I hope. I'm being, I'm being fucked in every way. And so it was just, it was, I was so annoyed. Like that Thursday, I was miserable because I was like, this is just

gonna suck. Like this, like none of this has gone right. Like, I'm down so much money with not even three blank walls to show for it. I got a fucking blank plus to show for it. A blank, who's gonna, who the fuck wants that? Wait, so the blank plus is that like, is it only one side of the wall could be drawn or could both sides? It would have two sides. So you would have-

Two sides were branding for the merch and two sides were white. So I asked them, I was like, what can we do with the materials we have? What are the shapes can we do? Because I want as much of this wall and less branding. Yeah.

Because I want people to be able to draw. I think that was way cooler for people to be able to do. So we ended up kind of like, if you had the plus like this, we kind of turned it like this so that it was still secure and then the-

So it's an X. What? It's an X. Like a really thin X. It's a very, very, very thin X that was still stable, but had way more room to draw on. Yeah, yeah. And so you couldn't see any of the branding. So I must, I don't know how much I paid for those prints to be branded,

but I had to just scrap it because I was like, fuck it, I want the wall to be the focus. And it was really hard because I was just like, God damn it. Like, I've sunk so much time and money into this for it all to go horribly wrong. even when I was like trying to get something out of it. It felt like I was being punished for something. I'm sure I'll find out what.

This sounds like the most engineering problem I've ever had in my life. It's just like, huh, okay, I see you've sent the schematics for a square with a side... It's crazy. It's crazy. We can do this. This is simple. There is no possible way you can fuck this up.

There's no way you can fuck that up. It's so hard to fuck up building a square. I think I could have built the square. Give me the materials in half a day. I think I could have done it. Should have just gone to the hardware store. Just bought some drywall. I should have done it yourself.

So, you know, it ended up happening and I was really kind of bummed out because I was like, fuck, this is just gonna go wrong. And then that night, we go Ludwig and then we're like, let's go and just go, we're in Vegas, let's go and gamble. By the way, I've been very harsh on gambling. I think that you should never gamble unless you're within the means to be able to do it

and you should only be losing whatever you feel comfortable doing. And I was, I had an amount of dollars that I had in cash from previously visiting Vegas. And I was like, I'm only gonna use this. And if I lose this, I'm done. Like, I'm not withdrawing any money. Yeah. Luckily I didn't do that at all Vegas,

but the first night went horribly. I just kept losing and I was like, this fucking sucks. Like, I'm just losing money and everything's going wrong. Yeah. This is awful. And so that day I was like, well, at least I'll get it out of the sleep.

And then I went to bed and I couldn't sleep. So I got three hours of sleep that night. And then had to go and- Like a Mr. Bean episode. It was like everything goes wrong. And then, And then I was miserable. And so I had to start the stream the next day.

And I start the stream and my backpack just doesn't work. And I'm like, this is fucking huge. What have I done? Did I run over an orphan at some point? I don't recall this ever happening. What did I do to deserve this? Like I feel like something is fucking with me. And so luckily Gun Run, a good friend of mine,

was an owner of V-shojo, the CEO, I asked him for tech support. I was like, hey, can you help me? And so luckily, it was an hour late and I did, people were, the con had already opened. The plan was to start the stream before the con opened. Right, right. And kind of show off the wall.

And then as people slowly come in, I could kind of do it. But there was just a crowd of people waiting and I was like, no, no, no, on the fucking wall. I got to start the stream. I got to show the blank wall. And we kept to ask people to start, like to stop.

Because people would just start walking in. Do do, do, pick up a pen in there. And everyone was like, no. And so an hour, an hour after the con opened, I finally got the fucking stream working. It was a really fun stream, but it was really tough because the lighting was so bad

in the venue. You couldn't really see the drawings very well. So the first day I streamed for like four hours. It was really fun. And the wall itself was a great idea. I think it worked really well. It would have worked better if my initial concept was there

because that would have been a lot more fun and they could have kept track of it a lot more because I had to keep bouncing between the sides. But it went really well. It was a lot of fun. I think people really enjoyed it. Worked out in the end. It kind of, well,

your definition of worked out would have to take into everything into account. But I think for the things, The thing itself, the idea was solid. Like I think it was really fun. The only thing we had to keep doing, the day one, people wrote their names a lot. People were very uncreative.

People would just write things. Because they wanted to do something and they would put their, they put their Twitch name and be like, yeah, that's not bad. And then I'd come in and be like, what the fuck is this? No one gives a fuck. And so I would just rub it out.

No self-promo. Well, it was because people were just writing and there was not a lot of artwork happening So what we ended up doing was every day, we were gonna do different types of like materials given, but we realized it was just, there wasn't that many drawings that we kind of just wanted to like just keep rubbing out and getting rid of the text.

How many? How many? I was, not that many. About to ask that question. You think a lot of people were very worried, and I knew that it wasn't gonna be that bad. Like, I knew people weren't gonna behave as bad. You should have just done like a thing where,

when someone came up with the pen, you should have just been like, no text. Well, so we did end up writing a sign saying, no only artwork. Yeah, just draw something. Yeah, and people did start doing it, and especially when, I think it was because initial, early on, I didn't stop people from doing it,

and then when people see text, they feel more comfortable writing text. But if they saw only artwork, I think people would be way more hesitant about just writing something. Yeah, absolutely. And so I think if I was to do it again, I would, and I think I'd like to do it again,

because I think it was a fun idea. Obviously, I don't need as big of a space. So I think I'd be up for doing something like that again. In a convention? I think at something like TwitchCon, it kind of works, there's a lot of streamers came by and wrote stuff, which was really fun.

Like I think the idea was really solid. I just needed to clean up the execution and obviously have the cost be way less. Yeah, and have an actual. And have an actual box. And have a square. We could have had half the space and utilized it so much better.

And I would have saved, I think I could have done that booth for like 50K had easily have gotten like one sponsor in a little bit and that could have covered all of like the costs I would have incurred from doing it. And I think then it would have, would have been a great success. And I think I definitely would be down

for doing something like this again at TwitchCon. Because I think it was really fun when it was working really well. The signal wasn't the best. So day two, I ended up swapping, I ended up begging Garner. I was like, hey, Gunn, do you have that? Because Gondon has this phone set up

for live streaming where you can just stream shit off the phone. Oh shit, damn. It's really good because in low lighting, the traditional streamer setup is really bad, but the phone, the Samsung Galaxy phone is so good. And it looked so much better. And so day two and three, we had a phone. It looked a lot better.

But I'd signed up to do this dumb-ass Twitch Rivals thing, which I shouldn't have signed up for, where it was basically an Apex Legends, like, tournament. You lost me. Right, but imagine this, imagine this, right? Say less. So they have like, they have like the two team captains for the 5V5 basketball competition.

They got LeBron James on one team, and they got Jimmy Kimmel on the other team. And that's basically how it was. And except, except in, it's a battle royale and there's, there's like 12 teams, all different basketball pros,

and then me. And so it was awful. I didn't get to play. I literally didn't get to play for four hours. I had to sit there and stream it. It was so bad. And the rivals team are very nice. And one of them did apologize to me.

It was like, sorry about that. It was a bit of a wash. I was like, ah, don't worry about it. It's fine. It happens. I was very annoyed at the time,

though. I was like, fuck, I shouldn't have done this. Yeah. I knew this was going to happen. because I'm not good at the game. And they made me a captain.

And I was like, no, don't do this. Put me with some pro, please. So that ended up happening. And then I didn't get to stream the booth as much day two, but day three really came together and we had some amazing artwork in the end. And I got to do a really fun Twitch rivals with Pete and Demodice and Five Up.

That was really fun. We got to do like party animal, some physical challenges. It was a really fun Twitch rivals event actually. That was much, much better than the other one, I think. because it was all just like people who were just streamers who weren't good at any of these things in particular who just kind of tried to do it. And we won the party animals.

Oh nice. Yeah, Pete popped off, even though he never played it. Hell yeah. It's kind of like, you know, gang beasts at all? It's kind of like one of those games where it's like, people just punching and it's all kind of rag doll physics and you have to like hit each other on the stages. Oh, okay, okay.

Oh, we gotta play some gang beasts for that game. It's so fun. Party animals is just better gang beasts. Okay, okay. It's way better than, hell yeah. And so, yeah, it ended up, it was pretty fun for like the work stuff, but I'd sign up to do way too much because I did like,

did the O-TK schooled thing. Oh, I saw that, yeah. Yeah. Which I won. Congratulations. Genius. There was a, there was a darts moment when we had to do darts. And obviously I'm pretty good at darts.

It's like, give me a beer. One of the questions, one of the questions that I felt personally attacked by this, they were like, what is the best country to get a hair transplant in? Yeah. Did you know the answer? Whales?

No, it's Turkey. Oh, yeah, right, yeah. So I was like, oh shit, hit the dot, hit the, it's because it was a, it was a, it hit Turkey like dead on. Oh, hell yeah. Oh, I was like, damn, he knew. Easy points.

Easy points. Because you do dance so much in Japan and in the UK. So I love doing darts and it was great. Yeah. Anyway, it was fun. But I signed up to do way too much. I was like, from, I was up from eight, and I would get back at six. that immediately have to go for a dinner

or hang out with people, you know, socialize because that's the main thing you do. It's a little social butterfly you are. Well, you kind of have to. There's a whole point of going to the con is like socializing. So I had like a total of like 12 hours sleep across like three days. It was so bad.

I was dying. I think if I would do it again, I would sign up to like half the amount of stuff I did. It was a really fun con. I think it was a great time, but man, it's dangerous being in Vegas. So much gambling. Because there was the hotel

that all the streamers were in. Yeah. And you would just, you would just walk down the hotel and just walk past the tables because they were right next to where everyone was walking. Right. So any people who are staying in this hotel

could probably see all of their favorite streamers just gambling. Yeah. You would walk down, always there would be a group of streamers gambling. Of course there are. Of course, you're in Vegas. So yeah, it was interesting. Also, Vegas sucks.

There's so much. Spending four days in Vegas made me realize how much I don't like Vegas. Yeah. I think two days in Vegas was max is what I would like to spend. I was there for a year. Yeah, that's fucked. I think like,

accumulatively. Day one, day one was kind of like exciting. You're like, man, we could do anything. Yeah.

Day two, I was like, okay, it's kind of fun. I'm kind of getting bored of gambling. Saturday, which should be the hype day, I was like, okay,

gambling again. Oh, gambling again. But then everyone would be like, I'm gonna go to the club and I'm gonna watch Diplo. I'm like, I don't fucking know who Diplo is. So I go to this club.

Didn't even know it was still around. And then so I go to this club and, and I'm on a list. I don't know what fucking list I'm on. So I rock up to this thing at 2 a.m. I'm like, hey, I'm on the list. They're like, what list? I'm like, I name some names.

The list. I name some names. And they're like, I need a table number. I'm like, oh, fucking table number. I don't know what that fucking is. So I'm calling Ludwig. I'm like, what the fuck am I on? He's like, I'll just come get you.

So he comes out and gets me. I go in and I immediately like walk into this club. It's so loud. Obviously it's a club, I know it's loud. Yeah. But like the floor is so sticky. Where it's like, I'm walking like this. Oh, you're giving me some

I'm far too sober because I've had like three beers where I need to be like eight, nine beers in for this environment. And Ludd's living his best life. He's dancing. He's having a great time and I'm like, I'm too sober. I can't do it. And it's 2 a.m. and I don't want to commit. I don't want to get drunk. It's 2 a.m. I'm like, I got to be up in six hours. Yeah, like, quick, someone, give me a molly. No. I got a pop a molly right now. I'm like, I sit around for 30 minutes, say hi to some people. I'm like, I guess I'm going to bed. Yeah. And then you, This story has just reminded me about why I stopped going clubbing. This is the story reminded me of why I don't ever go to clubs.

I just, man, I hate the whole, this whole like kind of, this kind of dance that happens when you're trying to get into a club. And I'm sure if you've ever tried to get into a club, you know it. Yeah. Where everyone's like, who's on a list or who's, who's down. It's a hierarchy. Yeah. You're just like, am I, am I, can I feel self-indulgent today?

Can I feel self-important? Am I part of the cool kids? You know why don't miss dealing with bounces. Oh, fucking hate bounces, man. They're such dicks. And I just don't care for it. I like, if they want to be like, if they want to be a cunt, I'm like, all right, well, I'm just going to go. Because they're just power tripping, right?

Yeah, I'm like, these guys, this is like one moment where they get to feel like, like, the arbiter of who is cool and not. And I'm like, I don't care about this. I'd rather just go home and just watch League of Legends. I don't know. I don't care enough about doing this. This fucking, this is so lame. So, yeah, I did that. And the next day it was like this Razor,

Dolce and Gabana party. And, uh, what? Yeah, it was just in a club. It was so fucking. And so we, we, it sounds pretentious as far. Oh, yeah, absolutely. So we get at this club and I'm on some list.

I don't know what list I'm on. You're always on a list. I'm always on a list for these streamer things, right? Because I, hopefully some good lists. Well, I, you know, what ends up happening is that you, I've realized this after going to LA a bunch. After you reach like a certain level of clout, you can just be like, ask someone,

you're like, hey, can I be on the list? And they'll put you on the list. Yeah, it just sounds like L.A. in general. Yeah, yeah. But like, I remember that like, if I wanted to do this prior, I'd have to like, if I wanted to hang out people, I'd have to really like, I'd have to feel like a burden asking.

But now I was like, okay, I'll just, can I, they're like, do you want to come to this party? I was like, I don't know. Can you just put me down? If I feel like it, I'll turn up. Yeah. And so I was on a list or whatever. But then I ended up going in with someone else

who was on the list. I hate all this shit. I hate this so much, by the way. Capital T, the list. And so we do this like John Wick escort mission where we go up, up, like up the club, through the back doors, through like the workers' entrance. The kitchen?

Yeah, through the, genuinely, down in the elevator, below the club, through the kitchen. Good fellas right here. Three elevators. Three elevators to get to this club. One down, through the, go and pass a bunch of laundry workers, go up again, through the kitchen, go up one final club.

get in the special area of the club, which is just behind the DJ, right? And so, and I remember, because I was with, we got in, it was like me, Ludwig, Jerma and RT games, and we were all there. And we all get in and, and it's just, it's so shit. We get in this club and you feel like you're in a zoo because everyone gets to see who's in the zone.

Right. Who's in the VIP era. It's behind the DJ, right? Yeah, because, and everyone's kind of like elevated. Yeah, right. on this podium behind the DJ. And I hate this so much. Cause I don't want people,

because people are just, this is people that people do this. And I think that like, I feel like your existence is so sad if this is what you must do. They stand at like the entrance to the VIP and they're just like looking at people waiting for someone to like let them in.

Right. And I guess at some point like the bouncer like left. So people were just walking in. And so they were like people who were like fans of the streamers started interact and it started to get really weird. And there was no drinks that were available to the people in the VIPs,

you're to like, you're to like, go to the bar, bring it back, and it's just a whole slog, and I just couldn't be bothered. That sounds like the worst VIP section I've ever heard. Yeah, but it was sponsored, so I thought it would be like free drinks for like the, you know,

because you want the streamers to show up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, so, but anyway, I have a drink. I'm sitting there talking to Jerma, and then at one point during this one song, this is like, we've been in the club for 30 minutes, by the way, right now. And I hate this already, I don't like this.

It's just too loud. You can't talk to anyone. Yeah, I don't hate this. And this fucking massive cannon goes off. Like, I don't know what it is, like a cold cannon. I don't know what these things are at clubs. They don't know what these are, do you go to clubs?

This is this cannon that shoots out smoke, not smoke, like cold air. Yeah, yeah, I know what you're doing. You know the thing. And it's so loud. The one that comes in, like during the drop. DJ, you're like, put the fucking hands up. Boom, yeah.

And it shoots cold air all over the section. and it is impeccably loud. It is like thunderous. It is so impressively loud that it literally like shocks me and a few other people I'm with were like, what the fuck? And so loud that you're like covering your ears

because it's just, it's fucked. And so I'm like, I don't like this. And they're all like, yeah, we hate this. I'm like, should we just go? This fucking sucks. And we're like, yeah, let's just go. So we just leave right away after 30 minutes. Yeah.

and I feel like, man, I spent 30 minutes getting in and I just hated it. And I was like, I'm just gonna leave right away. That just, oh my God, that just sounds like, that just sounds like the clapping experience. It was pretty shit. I just don't think I enjoy clubs remotely. Club sucks, man.

I just, I think there's never an occasion where I get excited to go to one. No, no, no. The only times clubs are goods, in my opinion, is when you don't plan for the nights. It's when you get... Yeah, but it can be like kind of a fun little offbeat thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I actually think the last time I went clubbing was with you, Conner. Which club would we go to? Huh? Which club did we go to? I can't know. It was like some club in, you're never sober enough to remember going to the club. No, no, that's the point.

That's all that anytime the club is fun. Yeah, that's, it's one way you like get a bit too tipsy with your maze and you're like, I know this sounds like a horrible idea because we're all fucking drunk. But clubbing. Clubbing always starts with the pretense of someone just saying,

fuck it. The problem is that clubs get like way too busy at a certain point. And that's when I, even when I'm drunk, I don't really enjoy. I'm kind of like, there's no space to like, even if I wanted the dance. I can't really dance because I'm shoulder to shoulder

with someone. Yeah. Man, I don't know if it's the pandemic that did that to me. I just don't want to be in that situation ever now, flat out. Like I can be completely drunk and I just don't want to be there. Yeah. Like, I just don't ever want to be in a situation where I feel like I'm not in control of my own space.

Yeah. And so that was what all the clubs were like because everyone in like Twitchcom was trying to get into these damn clubs. I just, yeah, didn't, wasn't much of a fan of it. Yeah. I do not regret not going to Twitchcon. No, I thought that would be like the kind of like vibe and experience. Yeah.

But that was like Saturday and Sunday. Yeah. I mean, the most fun nights when we just got to hang out and just maybe the gambling. That's just the vibe that I like. Yeah. Just like hanging out and chilling and talking and it's going to make me sound so all, but just not being in super loud places. Yeah, I didn't dig it.

I didn't know. Yeah. Like for me, every time I've been clubbing, it's always, It's always a sense of it's too loud to talk to people, but what I wanna do is talk to people. Yeah. Because unless I'm really, really fucking drunk, I ain't gonna wanna dance.

I'd rather just hang out of someone's house. Flat out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. House parties are goaded, man. House parties are so chill. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, not a fan of that. So I don't think I'll ever,

I think I just gotta stop admitting, because I kept trying to go to the club, being like, maybe I'll like it, but I just don't, I just don't like it, I hate it. And the thing is, it's not even just, a normal club. It's a club in fucking Vegas. Dude,

do you know how much like a bottle costs? It was like $1,500. What? Insane. Insane numbers. I could be blackout drunk and I wouldn't pay that. Hell no way you could get me to park.

Hell no. Insane amount for an alcoholic beverage. Yeah. Because you couldn't, I think you could order separate drinks we had to go to the bar, but if you wanted to bring the alcohol to the table and have them like make drinks for you.

It was like, yeah, that much. That's not including the table. Oh no, that's not. That's expensive. She's crazy. So overall, the whole experience, out of 10? TwitchCon? The Com itself was, there wasn't a lot to do.

It's kind of hard to give it. There's so many aspects of it where I would write differently. Like one issue I have with the con itself as TwitchCon is that because they need so many sponsors for it to be profitable, it's just like one big ad. And I feel like it's literally just ads. Man discovers capitalism. I know, but like, like, AX, I feel like they have,

like there's a lot of really, almost all the brands feel like they belong at an anime expo. Like I have a ton of criticism. We all have tons of criticism. Oh, so this one just kind of felt like they're all shoehorned in. There's Chevron, AT&T, the military. It's just like a bunch of non- Like, the military.

Yeah, my booth was opposite the Navy booth. They were really chill. They were super, shout out to the Navy. They gave us tools to use on our booth because otherwise we would have had to pay to borrow them from the union labor. Oh my god. And the Navy was super chill and they came up,

some of them came up to me like, hey, I love your stuff. Oh, hell yeah. You wanna like hang out with us? We got like a booth over there. So I almost signed up. I was like, I'm British, I can't, I can't. I can. I can enlist.

No, they were super chill. They were really nice actually. They were a good bunch. I think that they had some space where they like, had like, there this whole giant area where it was just PC setups where you could just play games or stream. I think it's a cool idea,

but I think why they have so many streamers. Why do you not have some space that you can go to streamers and be like, hey, is there some cool thing you want to try and, like a booth you want to make a TwitchCon that we could make that we can advertise and use that as a pull? Like I think it's missing so much

like just creator involvement outside of meeting greets because, and shows. They have some shows, which are great, and Twitch rivals, which are great, but it's nothing the viewers can get involved with. And I think that doing a meet and greet is so, they have so much room for meet and greets.

And I think that a meet and greet from a fan perspective is the worst, like, the worst way that you can spend your time to meet a creator because you line up for an hour, maybe 30 minutes if you're lucky, you meet your creator. And if they're a big creator, you probably will get 20,

30 seconds to talk to them. Yeah. And I feel like that's not a good experience. Like you don't get a lot out of that as a viewer and also the creator cannot get to meaningfully have a conversation with you. Whereas I think if you do a booth that's more interactive and the whole thing is that you're gonna be there

all day, you're streaming, maybe you're doing something cool. You can have more meaningful interactions with viewers in a way that I think is way more fulfilling and also way better from the creator side. Because you're not just going through this mill of viewers, just saying, hi, how are you? How's Twitchcom? Hi, have a nice day.

I think there's a way better way of utilizing the space at TwitchCon to kind of allow creators to make creative things. I mean, that's what I was trying to do. Yeah, yeah. But the problem is that from a creator standpoint, I don't have the money that Chevron has to blow. Like Doritos had like a double my space. They can just burn money because they're Doritos.

I can't, like I can't compete with that. Like, but it feels like Twitch should kind of be like, hey, we have the space. Are there any creators that want to use this to kind of do something cool? And I think that that's just, such a no brainer from their perspective because it's not like Anime Expo where anime is the product

in these anime companies because they're coming up and they're doing these things and it makes a lot of sense, but like streamers are your product? Why are you not giving them a space to show off? Why are you not allowing them to kind of show off some creativity and like have a presence there where they can also then have maybe, you know, the people from Chevron will go and talk to them and be like, hey, let's work together, you know,

we see your booth, it's cool. Like it feels like Twitch, Twitch, it just is not utilizing streamers at all. Like it feels like they're not thinking about how they can use some of the space because they had plenty. There's a ton of space being wasted at that car. I think the thing is, I like,

I don't even know what happens at TwitchCon. I think if there was more streamers who had booths who were streaming or doing these cool events, you would see more stuff. I mean, for me, my, always my public perception of Twitchcon is just like, oh, this is like party weekend for streamers, but they get together in one building.

Yeah, my idea. for a lot, oh, this is just VidCon for streaming. Yeah, yeah, yeah, basically, just that, right? It's kind of like, yeah, I mean, basically, yeah. But I mean, VidCon, Vickon's for like eight year olds. Yeah. Oh, Bitcoin also sucks.

Is this? I think TwitchCon, Fitchcon has something, and I really don't want them to keep doing what they're doing, because I feel like people are just gonna get bored. Because there's nothing to do at that con. There's not a lot to do. Like no interactivity whatsoever. There's like a few things you can do.

The artist alley is way too small. You could double the size. the artist alley. Because I think that's the highlight for a lot of people. Seeing all these cool things from independent artists that they can purchase.

And I just think there wasn't like enough interactivity for people to do things. They had a cool arcade section which was nice. But again, that's like a small little thing. I think you have a product that is streamers.

Give them a space to do something. Yeah. You know, I think it also kind of sucks from my perspective where I'm trying to do something cool at TwitchCon and I have to pay an arm and a leg. And to be fair, TwitchCon did give me a little bit of a discount

But it's like, it was not enough. It's a, you know, and they did what they could. But if there was like some kind of framework they could do where they could kind of give out these spaces and have some kind of pre-built thing that was, you know, I think there's a lot, there's something that they could have, they could do that were really incentivized streamers to get involved.

And also it would be way easier for brands to get involved with those streamers there. Because- That's a win for everyone. Yeah, I think, I think it's, it's, it feels like a no-brainer, but I don't know why they're not doing it. I think there's more conventions in general need to do that as well,

like not just Twitchcon, you know? Like get them more involved and get people who are going to them more involved so that there's actually a reason to go other than, oh, I met my favorite content creator for 30 seconds. Yeah. I just feel like cons really aren't in general

going in the right direction for that kind of longevity. Yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, there's a lot of cons I've heard that are really fun to just go to. I know that John always talks about Magfest and that kind of stuff, being a great fire. Oh dude, the South Africa con I went to was one of the best cons

I've been to just because there was so much cool shit to do there. But like not a lot of cons. And in fact, most cons, 90% of cons I've been to just don't have that. Yeah. You know? Yeah, it just feels like such a waste. Yeah.

The only thing you have is Twitch is the streamer. Yeah. Give them, let them do something. It's so, I mean, it's just frustrating from someone who wants to do more creative things. Yeah, yeah. That's the thing though, like I feel not everybody on Twitch has that mentality that you have, right? No, but I just kind of wanna lay low

and just like the meet and greet is all they can do or all they can handle. Yeah, and I think the meet and greets are great, but they had such a massive area for it and I was like, you don't need this much space. Right. Well, it's just a statement, right? I think on Twitch's part, they're just like,

look at what we fucking got, you know? Yeah, yeah, and I think there was a lot of meet and greets. But again, yeah, I think that like you can do, which is why I think we started doing more shows as opposed to doing meeting greets, because in trash taste we felt that like, a show is a better experience for a viewer than a 30 second meet and greet.

Not totally, yeah. Come to our show, come watch us, live had this enclosed experience with other fans, where it's great energy and you get a show. Yeah. Like that's, I think that's so much better than doing a meet and greet, because a lot of the time the meet and greets, like I said, you get 20 seconds

to write with your streamer or your content creator, and that's it. Yeah, unfortunately, a show takes a lot of efforts and energy and planning. Yeah. At the end, Rizal is always a million times more. The thing is, is that it's easy to like, I think, yeah, there are a lot of creators that don't want to do that, but there are just as many creators

is that if you give them the option, they will go for it. And they'll try and be creative, they'll try and push it, they'll try and do things. But without the option, it's never gonna happen. And right now, the money just, it's far too expensive to do anything at something like a TwitchCon, as I've learned,

that I, I would, it would be very hard for me, who is like one of the biggest, biggest streamers on Twitch to justify doing anything. So it's like, okay, well, this rules out like 99.9% of streamers doing anything ever at Twitchcon. Like this is, you know. Yeah. It's a feeling shame.

That's some improvement that they can like do in the future, hopefully. Hopefully. Hopefully. Maybe I'll go to TwitchConn next year. Who knows? I'm not. Top Genshin streamer, come on. I need you. The Genshin did have a booth actually.

I know. You could have been there, gone. I got invited to that Twitch rivals. I'm going to, I'm going to toilet, but yeah, I was going. I was actually invited to go on the Genshin Twit rivals. Number one Genshin streamer. Have you been up to anything? Nope. Nope.

Yeah, anything Jerry's been up to is shaving. Yeah, I had to shave because I had a Halloween party last week. We're invited a couple of my friends. We do it every year at our house. Obviously, we cosplay or, you know, costumes or whatever. Rki and I were Shaggy and Scooby-Doo this year. So, yeah, so Acki had the full-on onesie, and I fully committed to the shaggy bit.

I shaved everything except for the goatee here. It was fucking disgusting. I look like if Fred Durst had a baby with the lead singer, smash mouth. It looked fucking gross. Was it worth it? Yeah. Fun time. Yeah, it was really fun. Yeah, it's always good fun. I don't know what happened in Shibia. I heard that I didn't see the massive signs though. Yeah, just saying fuck off. Yeah. They're saying like, we will do some bad things if you do bad things. Yeah, they should be a, this gigabrein move where they were like, we're going to tell people that they can't drink alcohol, but there's no punishment if they're doing alcohol.

And then they started boarding up stations. to stop people from meeting up, but it just made it more congested. Yeah. So it made it more dangerous. Yeah, which is the most Japanese move I've ever seen in my life. They're like, let's fix a problem.

Oh, we just made it worse. I think there's just such a disconnect between like older people in Japan and the Japanese government and like, just allowing younger people to express themselves. And like, I don't, I think getting drunk and all crazy in Tokyo is not great or the best way to do it.

But I feel like, Just clamping down on it and trying to get rid of it entirely is not the move here. No. You know, and I think, yeah, obviously there was some bad apples in it, but I think generally it all went, it all went okay, except people weren't they were trying to flip cars over.

Yeah. But, I don't think it was, like, evacuate all the trucks. Get them out of here. They've been, because a lot of people were saying that it was because of the Korean, the disaster. Yeah, yeah.

That's what, but they've been trying to do this for years now. They've been trying to get rid of it. Yeah. And this is the year where they really try to, do stuff, but this weird kind of rule where you can't drink, but they're not gonna do anything. They'll just have a man come around and shout at you, but he can't do anything.

Well, we're actually filming this on the 31st of October. So it's gonna be interesting to see what happens in the next couple of hours. I just, dude, I feel like they've just gone about it the most Japanese way possible, and that is the worst way possible. I feel like they could have done this in a few better ways, but like having no laws passed

and asking people not to drink is just, Just never gonna work. Stop having fun. Yeah. Just no fun allowed in the city. And I've heard to, am I right? I spoke to a lot of foreign people who just seem to not care, which I think it's just gonna make all this,

a lot of the foreign Japanese relations that have been bad already recently. Yeah, the foreign Japanese relations. It's just making it even worse. Whenever I see the Japanese news videos popping up and they, because they love, Japanese news loves doing this. They love finding a foreign and drinking alcohol

around there and being like, look, look at them, not following. the rules we set. That's the rule of the problem. And then all the comments are like, wow, because you auto-translate Japanese, like, wow, classic foreigners can't follow rules here. And it's like, Jesus Christ. It's like, no, we can follow rules. We follow rules that make sense to follow. Yeah. And I also think that just having a news crew only show some foreign people who are, like when it's not, it's fucking just foreign people who are doing this. Japanese people are also doing this. Never mind the fact that those four dudes who flipped

the truck last year were all Japanese. They were all Japanese. So it's such bullshit. They do this. And it's very frustrating sometimes because they know that this does well and it gets engagement on the Japanese news sites. If they purposely blame foreign. Frothing at the mouth. It's so frustrating. Because then when these cases that come along earlier,

like the actual foreigner is a piece of shit, it makes them feel like they are right. Yeah. For this, this prejudice they have. Yeah. It's frustrating. So we'll see what happens in the next couple of hours. Shibia might be mega quiet or they could be about seven.

I think it's gonna be good. I think it's gonna be because they've boarded off way too much. Yeah, yeah. They've made Shibuya Station actually, like more dangerous to get around. Yeah, because they boarded off. As if it wasn't already fucking dangerous.

It's so bad. Yeah, I don't know why. They're so, it's such a, such a dumb idea of what they did. Yeah. Is it just me, or has like, even, has the want to come to visit Japan just like increased as like, in the past few years? Like, what do you think is the catalyst for that? Because I felt like there was,

interest before. It's a little podcast called Trashy. I genuinely think that like what we're doing and a bunch of other TikToks and all stuff, just showing Japan off all the time has helped, has made it so much more enticing. It's all the free advertisement of Japan by foreigners who comes to Japan.

You cannot go five minutes on TikTok without getting recommended a Japanese food video. It's not possible. It's not possible. Do you think that's because we're in Japan so we can recommend it? Because I can never tell. It is so hard to tell because like, have you

You ever logged into YouTube with a completely fresh account or like incognito mode? And you're like, I do not recognize any of these people and they have like 26 million views. I would say we probably are getting recommended them more because we are inclined to watch that. But a lot of these TikToks have two to five million views and that can't just be the expat population of Japan.

That's more than the expat population Japan. And it's weird because like I did a, I made some shorts just for YouTube. Yeah. And I did one where I, there was this, this is a story. called Onigiri Bongo. I don't know if you've heard of it.

This is on aegiri place where people line up five hours for. Oh, yes, I've heard. It's fucking ridiculous. People line up to five hours. It's normally a two hour wait. And I found out when I was looking at the website that you could just call up.

Obviously, if you do it in Japanese, but you could call up and just say like, oh, you yukuk, do you can reserve. A spot in the line. No, no, no, you could do yaku, much kui, do you like, oh, hi, so this. And then you just say like, tomorrow 11 a.m., can I have this?

And they're like, yeah. So, yeah, I just saw on the website, it said that you could call up and reserve to go. And I was thinking, well, onigiri is probably the most to-go food of all time. Yeah, you don't sit down for you. It is a strictly to-go food. So I was like, oh, okay, well, easy.

So I was like, there's no way it's this easy. So I call up. I say, hey, can I come pick it up tomorrow at 11 o'clock? And they were like, yeah. So I order it. I go in. And I felt like I was doing certain wrong. I like, there's this long line.

Like, look at this far and I cut the line. No, dude, there's a line of like 60 people, right? Right. All Japanese. Yeah. And I go up and I'm like, I don't know where to go because I've, my first time coming here, I'm looking around, I'm like, I think I just go right to the front. Yeah. And as I'm going in, this guy goes, and I was like, oh, Machiaari, Aramis, and he's like, oh, oh, like a guy in the line.

Yeah, I was just gonna like tell me that I was cutting. And so, because I saw someone else, just do it right as I was about to do it. So I was like, oh, okay, go up. I just say my name. They give me my rice balls and I was like, oh shit, that took 10 seconds. I've hacked the system.

Yeah, and I was like, why is everyone waiting five hours in line? So I made the chatup being like, this is, why the fuck people wait in five hours and you can just do an advance? Because that kind of information is not available on y- That's true, that's true, but then-

which is what they're probably using. But then I started getting these comments from people who are like, classic fucking foreign tourist, doesn't want to wait in line, makes the Japanese people wait longer. No, they're doing it to them fuck himself. I was like, what the fuck? Bro, these people are insane. Little do these comments no. Japanese people love waiting at line. It's like a

fucking pastime for that. I thought the British loved a cue, but man, the Japanese shabunders. And so, yeah, I got like a bunch of weird ones where they were like, uh, there's just a bunch of people who are, these very weird people who are, I guess, obsessed with Japan who come out of the woodwork occasionally and just want to slant on you for doing anything even remotely differently. Meanwhile, you look into the, and it's like Nigel from Arkansas, who's never left his country before, and he's just read a lot of shit about Japan.

I'm like, stop. You know, a lot of people, you know, my Japanese is not fluid at all. I'm like baby conversation level. But the amount of- You're a bit better than that. Oh, I appreciate that. But the amount of doors that open up

that I realized that when, one, I wasn't afraid of talking on the phone and sound like an idiot and being able to like book things, it opened up so many doors. Oh, yeah, definitely. And being able to do that and confidently, like, call them up. because I'm like, this kind of conversation,

I'm pretty sure I can handle. Yeah. Because I was like, I'm gonna ask, can I reserve? They're gonna say yes, when. I'm gonna tell them the time. And they're gonna be like, all right, what do you want? So that's how it went. Yeah, yeah.

And I nailed it and got it and it was great. It was so delicious. I wouldn't wait five hours, but it is by far the best on a gear ever had about it. Oh, really? If I was kind of a big day trip. Well, now you've like unloaded the secret and everyone's gonna be phoning up for fucking measure.

You should, you should be a line for reservations. Because I think they make it even the morning off before they, before they open or like maybe later in the night. But either way, it was amazing. Like it was really good and it was, these things are fucking huge. Yeah.

They're like twice the size of normal on a gear and I ate three. I was dying. It was so good. A keel of rice. So yeah, if you do go, you know, and you got like a day trip plan, it's like seven or eight of you guys,

just go and pick up a bunch. Sweet. All right. Well, there you go. There's a recommendation for you guys and we'll leave it at that. Hey, look at all these patrons though. Shout to this guys. Hey, make sure when you come to Japan,

be respectful, follow the rules, and you won't get a fucking NHK argument about you. Yeah, don't film crimes. Yeah, don't film crimes. Yeah, in general. Like, I might be the hottest take we've ever seen on trashdase. If you fuck around, you find out, all right? So don't do that.

Especially like if you're gonna film crimes, at least don't be cringe while you're doing. Yeah. You know what I mean? Let's be cool, you know? Like, don't make a cringe video. It's cool crimes, yeah. But no, don't do that.

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listen to us on Spotify. And we will update you guys on the Shia Halloween fiasco, probably next episode. All right, see you guys. Or no, we'll see. All right, bye guys.