Trash Taste Podcast - WE ALMOST DIED | Trash Taste #82

Episode Date: January 14, 2022

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That is the title of this video. Wow. We almost died camping, guys. Okay, okay, now we have to do like- Why did you say it so quickly? Now no one's gonna watch the rest of the episode. Now we have to do like the YouTuber thumbnail face of just, oh my God.

All right, his the thumbnail face. All right. Audio-only listeners, like what's happening? All right. How long did it take you guys to perfect the YouTuber thumbnail face? Because- Come on, come on, we can't tangent already. We literally just started the topic.

Okay. This isn't everyone to chat. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, okay. We don't talk about anything. That's the hook. That's, well, we'll start off with a tangent and then we'll go back to the topic. We'll talk about that, but in the meantime.

But in the meantime, how long do they take you guys to a perfect your YouTuber thumbnail place? No, no, no, okay. You're asking the wrong question, gone. Why? It's how long did it take before you stop becoming ashamed of yourself doing the YouTuber thumb-down? How long has it been since your soul died?

This is, okay, this is a legitimate question because I still suck at it because I do anime- What do you mean? You just open your mouth? I do anime thumbnails, right? And so my entire career has been like anime thumbnails. And so the few videos that I film in live action, I've just been like a fucking sheep in like headlights.

Your YouTube face is like, my YouTube face is just me looking depressed because I don't know how to make like any other face. You do it very well. I remember I got an angry email once from someone being like, why do you make your thumbnails look like they're for 10 year olds? Why is your face open and gasping like an idiot? do you have a penis in your mouth

or something like that, they were like. Because the general demographic is a 10 year old. Well, no, they, no, so I was thinking, and then the explanation is, unfortunately, you guys won't click on it. Yeah, exactly. The sad truth is the, you know, it works. And it's something that you have to come to something.

It's like, someone asked me, when you take the thumbnail thing, you just depressingly like sigh afterwards after you make the pose. And I'm like, yes. Yes, absolutely, yes. You do, yeah. There's no big, like, I gotta massage a thing.

There's no big like black mirror moment than when you finish shooting that thumbnail face shot. And then you're just like, oh, okay, well, now I gotta go on with my life knowing I just did that. So it is depressing as fuck. Yeah, but yeah, I like, to me, I just,

because with thumbnails, I feel like you never perfect it on the first go, it's like, I feel like with thumbnails, you need 15 go before you know what your thumbnail style is, right? Sounds like a rookie. Really? Well, you're, for you- One take wonder, baby.

For you, it's fucking easy. One take no reuse. Because now, because now you've got, You've got like a cartoony thumbnails where you've got, you've got, you've got, you've got, 50, that's when I'm too lazy, and then I get them to do it. But also there's some thumbnails where it's like,

I can't possibly do a good enough job capturing this, so I'll do some nice little cheesy clickbait with a character and some drawings. Yeah, what about you, Joey? How long, how long would you take on your thumbnails? Or do you like, do you make a specific face for that video or is it just, is it just like a random screenshot from the video you just filmed?

Do you think you make the best thumbnails out of trash taste? No. Who do you think makes the best thumbnails? God. You think so? Yeah. I think so? I think you've got the most views.

I don't know. I think it's different topics though. I definitely make the worst, that's for sure. Do you? Yeah, I think so. I think as you make them. I think my thumbnails fucking suck. I like mine a lot.

I like my, I think I got- Well, I like yours as well. I get criticized the consistency isn't there. They're like, I don't have a pattern, but I also like that it's all over the place a little bit. I like that you get a different art style every now and then. I feel it's a bit of a double-edged sword if you develop a pattern,

because then your thumbnail starts to look same. But that's a good thing, Because actually, like, if you imagine, you go and you've discovered a new YouTuber, right? One of the biggest things that puts me off is like, I've discovered a YouTuber, his content's amazing. And then I click on their channel

and it's like all over the fucking place. And I'm just like, what is this channel trying to, like, what is this channel's content? You know, I feel like you, like, it's kind of like an Instagram page, right? Where it's not just about one photo, it's about when people click on your entire profile and they see like a fucking portrait

of what your profile is about. A perfect example of why my thumbnail suck. Wait, wait, first of ways. No, no, no, because- Now I look like a egotistical asshole being like, I think mine of the bad. I do like mine though, but I mean,

that's because I spend a lot of fucking time doing it. And I have like a bunch of people like, I'm like, we're like the council getting around. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you think, wait, why do you think the reason your thumbnail, wait, did you, I have so many questions I'll ask you. Okay, I didn't expect you to be like,

my thumbnail suck. Why would you, why would you upload them if you think they suck? Because I can't make better one. Why don't you hire someone? It's the same thing with editing. I was like, I'm not good enough at this. Someone else can take my jumble mess of words.

I can work with them, they can get used to my style, and then we can go about it. I don't know, then I feel it just like completely detaches me from my content. I think that's an excuse. I think the thumbnail is like the last little bit of like me that I can put into it, right? And it's like- You are the video though.

Yeah, you are- You are- That is true. Because like your thumbnail style is you. It's your face, right? That is part of your style. I think it's also because, I don't even know what the fuck I'm doing with my thumb nails as well, like I don't have like a pattern

or anything like that. Like I also switch between the cartoon, my avatar version of me and my face and it's like. But like, is it a 50-50 clear split or is it, I feel like, it's mostly my face now. It's mostly your face now, right? Is it the avatar when you, because before it used to be just my avatar.

Yeah, I think I understand because it's, one is easier to allow an avatar. You have a lot more room to play with and expressions are like set and it's cleaner. Yeah. When it went with your face, You gotta worry about lighting. You gotta worry about all that stuff.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. I get it, is it like when you cannot get a good one with your face, you bring in the avatar? No, I just give up and just use a shit. Oh, if you're not happy with it? No. I work with what I've got, basically, yeah. Yeah, you need to get a good artist or somebody who works.

Because even with my photos now, when it's just, you'll notice that there's like text in it. Yeah. All the text is like hand drawn. Everything's all hand done. Because I wanna get it all to fit nicely. When you fuck around with fonts, yeah, you can probably do it. Yeah.

But I wanna get everything perfect. perfect, so I'll talk with someone, like, let's reframe this picture, let's move things around. Yeah, just kind of just right, so it looks nice. Yeah, because like you say you think you have the best thumbnails, and I think you definitely do for the content you made. And that's why you found success. And like, I think, you know, I'm gonna suck my own dick here.

Yeah, yeah. I feel like my thumbnails are like the most optimized they can be for anime style content. That's true. It's a different, yeah. It's a different type of style of content, yeah. Yeah, like if I'm cosplaying, like the time of recording, I recently used to cosplay video.

That's so easy to like make a good thumbnail. Yeah. Just literally get the picture of the cosplay and then just have some, whoa, that's, that's me. Yeah, yeah, that's what I did. Because it works. Exactly, right. Whereas for me, if you like, 90% of the time,

if you see a video recommended on your YouTube and it has like, say, a wifu's face plastered right on the front with a bunch of memes on the side or something like that, you're gonna know it's my videos and you're not even gonna need to see that it's my channel, right? Because it's a certain style that I've built up over the years.

Can I back track, check in my own dick? I'd be like, we all make the best thumbnails for what we do. Okay, okay, okay, we're all now kidding. I'm sure somebody can make better thumbnails for doing the same thing. But the thing though, you can never think, like, I've got it nailed.

You gotta think like, all right, how do I make it better? Yeah, do I improve this? All right, I wanna make it pop more. Yeah, yeah. I hate thumbnails. What is the worst thumbnail you think you've made that you, that you can remember?

Oh, there's so many. Yeah. Because like, have you ever, like, gone back and changed the thumbnail at all? No. You've never. I have, like. I'm too lazy for that.

Once I'm done, it's gone. Like that's it. Like, once the video's live, I do not wanna think about it. I used to think about, I used to think like that until I saw that fucking Veritasim video that said, like he goes back and changes the thumbnail

and I tried it and like, it actually makes a fucking difference. Some videos that I actually change the thumbnail on title actually have like a second wind and they're doing way better than even when they initially launched. I've been thinking to do it ever since that Veritasian video, but I just haven't been fucked to do it basically. I was like, yeah, I'll get to it today.

Yeah, yeah. A lot of the older videos, I genuinely don't want people to watch. I'm like this is not the content I make. I do not watch you watching hours and hours of Sebastian prank calling and then being like, when's the next one coming out? You know, like it's not, it's not coming out. It's never coming out.

I'm not doing it anymore. Let me get out of this nightmare situation. You're gonna add anything to that? I was just like, you're gonna wanna say something, God. I was just like, you know what? I don't think I can relate. I was just, you know what, you know, I was in my head. I was just like, can I relate to this?

Can I relate to this? No, I can't relate to this. Because most YouTubers who can relate to this. In my head, I was just like the avatar, like, that's rough buddy. That's all I can see. Most YouTubers who get to this point. All that was getting in my mind was just like,

I'm sorry that happened to you, but I'm not reading that or something like that. I'm happy for you or I'm sorry for your loss, but I ain't reading all that. Because most YouTubers who get to this point, I've never had to deal with that because their channel dies. That's true because like, you know,

I feel like, Like one of the biggest things you've done is you've definitely like changed up your content a lot. And you know, you definitely like your style and your how you promote your videos and your thumbnails have definitely changed along the way. Right? So, you know, it's a nice evolution. But for me like I've been around for so long

that there are still videos that I'm proud of like that I've made years ago. Not every video of course. Anime in minutes. Anime in minutes. Oh, that's definitely coming back eventually. When's it come back on? It's, it's the next one guy.

It's like, I'm, it's just like my hunter hunter, you know, it's just, it's just on hiatus. He's on hiatus, right? He's got back pains, right? I've got back pains, man. I've got back pains, I've got trash taste to work on, guys. If you didn't know the mangaka of Hunter Hunter has back pains and hasn't wrote in like over a year, I think, right? It isn't released one?

Over a year. Oh my two years. Yeah. Rep Hunter Hunter Hunter events. Before that it was like six years. Yeah, I know. Now, now I just feel bad whenever, whenever a mangaka is on hiatus because of, you know, fucking berserk, right, how big of a meme that is and what that turned into. that turned into.

I saw an interview with Iraqi. They had one. That man works every day of the week. Yeah, I bet. He's like 60. Yeah. This man is never gonna stop. He's never gonna stop.

No, of course not. It was insane. I was like, this man told his weekly schedule and didn't mention a break anywhere. And he works from, I think, 10 a.m. to 11 p.m. with one hour break. And I'm like, bruh. Yeah.

That's what it takes man to be the fucking top shonen. But like, no wonder, like he has so much musical reference. He doesn't have time to do anything else because just listening to music and thawing and doing stuff all the time. Pretty much. Bro, yeah, rip. Yeah, like, I can't imagine what the actual life

of a mangaka is like, because you see some YouTubers on the grind, right? But at least with YouTube, you can have some variety in there. You can collab and you can do different type of content. I will come up. But I take breaks. Yeah. I take breaks. Yeah. Well, part of the, part of the charm is that your breaks also happen to be monetizable, right?

Because you, that's like your Twitch streams, right? Yeah, yeah. Because that's for you. That's your downtime as well as work, I guess. technically, but with mangakas, you can't do anything, but just draw and work on your fucking, work on your series. And I can't imagine being that one track

and being that dedicated to just a single thing in your life for that long. I can't dedicate what, I can't dedicate like a month of my life to one project, let alone fucking five years or 10 years or 20 years. Or your entire life, yeah. I saw a Reddit post that was like, it was like, what's the guy who made,

wrote Game of Thrones. George Aramarden. Yeah. George Aramarden, he was like, he apparently begged HBO to make 10 seasons of Game of Thrones instead of the seven. Seven, seven.

Eight. Eight. Eight. Yeah. We forgot. Apparently begged them. You know, and I went, I, you know, I opened this thread.

I, I half expected, what did you think the comments were gonna be when he went to that thread? What would you think of people would apply? Oh, what the, get begging for 10 seasons. Yeah, he apparently asked for them. They would agree with them?

They would agree. They were like, yeah, go, Yeah, maybe. Yeah, no, not at all. They were like, they were like, well, if he wasn't such a lazy piece of shit and finished his books, maybe we would, maybe we would, you know,

we'd have something to work off of. Apparently, people suck. Well, I don't know, because in some ways, apparently he, I can't remember what exactly, but apparently he was helping writing some episodes initially and then later on afterwards he wasn't helping write any of the episodes. You know.

Well, isn't that the reason why like the later seasons sucked so much? Was that because he kind of, maybe. That was the theory, right? I don't know, I've never seen a single episode of giving through my son. Well, we'll never know. And there was a lot of comments,

and there's one or two that I kind of half agreed with where I was like, okay, it's like, all right, if you're not gonna do the job, right? And you are the most qualified person for the job, right? And they are doing it with or without you. And you decide, no, I'm not doing it. And then it becomes shit. Yeah.

Can you then turn around and be like, oh, it's They should have just given it more time. Because the argument was like, if someone's, if the job's gonna get done, you're not gonna do it, then it's your fault. Like it's kinda his fault, people were saying, it's because he should have. It's not his fault.

I understand a little bit where they were coming from. I'm sure, there's like a certain degree of responsibility, but to say that it's all his fault because he's like the main guy's a little harsh, I think. A lot of people were being very critical of him in a sense that I thought was a bit unfair. But I understand. Game of Thrones fans being critical? No.

Well, I think it's Game of Thames They've gone to the five stages of grief with the books. Yeah. They've gotten two acceptance now. They've accepted that it's never gonna finish and it's never coming out. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Hanta Hanta fans like first time.

I'm pretty sure it's like never coming out. Like as an anime fan, I'm like a hardened veteran. I'm like, oh, this series isn't finished, cool. Give me the next Eastakai. Just give me the next finished Eastakai. It's just like the one time where I opened a Reddit thread and I was genuinely 100% incorrect on what I thought the replies are gonna be.

Yeah. Right. Because Reddit is normally a really simple, the first thought that comes to your head circle jerk. It's like, oh, go for the low hanging through, get your karma. Yeah, everyone up votes. Yeah.

But it wasn't there. It's quite separate. But I also find with Reddit, it also depends very much on the board you're on. Because depending on the board you're on, you can get like very, very different replies because it's all like, it's all like a circle jerk, but it's a circle jerk of people who think alike

and not everyone on the same board thinks alike. Because anyone who doesn't just gets shunned. Yeah. And so some, you know, you go on some Reddit threads, or some Reddit, you know, some Reddit forums, and you see like this thread, and you're like, I can't be the only one who thinks this way. And then you go on the Reddit thread,

and everyone seemingly in the Reddit thread thinks the exact opposite of you. And you're like, am I the crazy one? Am I the fucking crazy one? And then you see like the same thing being discussed on fucking YouTube or Twitter or something. And it's a completely opposite opinion. You know, so I think it very much does depend

on what board you're on and what kind of group of people you were talking to. because I can't imagine everyone would think that that is George's fault, you know? Well, yeah, you know, I was thinking about it and as somebody does creative stuff, obviously not to the same level and same expectations, but, you know, you don't,

it sucks because there are probably a bunch of creators out there who are legitimately just being lazy and just like, fucking chilling and not doing anything. And they're like, ah, whatever, whatever. And making that, you know, and I guess in some ways that raises the question of,

do the fans have a right to demand the work come out if he doesn't want to make it anymore? and it's halfway through? Is that, is that... I mean, I mean, the issue is, right? The issue is that a lot of people don't really appreciate how much time it takes to make good shit, right? Sorry, Joe, I'm gonna do this again.

I'm gonna bring up Arcane. Well, once again... Well, once again, okay. I'm gonna say fate there for a minute, right? I'm gonna bring up Arcane once again, Joey... Amazing. Amazing. I'm not a little evil.

No, because, like, you know, that series... That series took six years to make, right? From what I understand, it took like five or six years to make. And it definitely feels like it took five or six years to make because there's so much like attention to detail and like so many different aspects of the show. But like, so I can see that this took six years to make. At the same time, would I want to wait six years for a season two?

I don't think I would, you know. I think I would, because here's the thing. I don't know what I would rather. Would I rather wait that long for a better product or would I rather wait less time for a decent product that I can at least like carry, like consume? It's the fucking cyberpunk. It's fucking cyberpunk.

The cybergene, 10 out of 10. Go watch it. Weekly reminders, go watch Arcane. Number two, fuck, I don't know. That's tough because, yeah, yeah. Would you think cyberpunk would have done better if they waited another two years? I think with a game, it's different

because a game is normally one and done. Like, cyberpunk would be one and done, right? It's pretty much, it's over, right? Is it? Or no, because they can do updates. Yeah. Yeah, but like, as in the core of the game, there's not gonna be a cyberpunk two.

If you've played it, there's not gonna be a cyberpunk two. Okay. And if they would, I don't know what they would do, but it's gonna be like a one thing. Whereas like, you know, arcane ended on a cliffhanger of sorts, right? So when you're ending on a cliffhanger, it's a different question as opposed when you're done, like it's completely wrapped, right? Yeah.

Because that's why we can see it like reboots like 10, 15 years later because it's like, okay, it's this thing that's done and then, oh, 15 years later, you like that thing? Cyberpunk, so it's, right? It's done, right? It's done, so it's fine. Except it actually comes out in 2078.

The year is 2777. It's finally finished. It'll come up to, yeah, it'll probably be fucking patched. The patch is 10 petrobytes. Fucking hell. If it's a seasonal thing with multiple seasons, I don't wanna wait six years.

If it's one thing that I don't know anything about, yeah, I can wait 20 years, because I don't give a shit about it. I don't know what it is. Give me the thing that's done and complete, right? Yeah. But now that we know this is probably gonna be season two of Arcane, I don't wanna wait six years.

I don't, I don't. Even if it ends up being mediocre compared to season one? I don't, I am fine with it going down from like a 10 out of 10 to 8 out of 10. It means that we get it in two years. Same here. Because there's so much potential to this story where I feel like it would be so squandered

if I'm 50 and I'm still like waiting for part four of Arcane. Yeah, because like I'm going through the same dilemma now with also like Micho Ketensee because, you know, that, from what I've heard talking to people in the industry, that took so many fucking years to make and it definitely shows that it took that many years to make, right?

That's because of all the business meetings. And that too, and that too, on top of that. That was like 70% of it, probably. The studio did say that they estimate 2023 for Arcade Season 2. 2023. That's reasonable. It took six years for him to learn how.

Yeah, I feel like the reason why they say six years because they probably have those like pre-production meetings that last like God knows how many years. Like when you actually start getting all the pieces moving, it's probably a little faster. Now that you have more money, more manpower, they know that it's a success. We know that it's very successful.

Yeah. It'll, you know, and the merchandising is endless, probably with this and the games. And I think we won't be, having any shortage of archery. They'll have enough resources, I'm sure. I'm pretty sure Wright's going to give them enough resources, but I think one thing that isn't appreciated

is that you also need talent, you know. Yeah, you do. There's been enough anime projects that have money thrown at it, and it doesn't help because there's just not enough talent, or like the talented people are working on different projects, right? Yeah. So it's, I don't know, it's a dilemma.

I don't have the right answer to this question. Please, please be a 10 out of 10 season two. I'm begging you. I need it. Do you think cyberpongs 27 should have come out when it did? Probably not, but how long would you have waited for it? Because I remember when they announced they were delaying it, right? They delayed it.

People were like, twice. Take your time, bro. Take your time. The first time they delayed it. Everyone was like, you know what, take your time. You made the Witcher three, I'll allow it. Second time, that was when people were starting to get Aggie, right? That's when patience was tested.

So if they delayed it a third time, did they delay it a third time? I don't think so. I think the scope of the game was just overambitious. I think it was. It was just too much. Like in this current day, you can't make what they were trying to make to the level that they were advertising.

Yeah. Within a reasonable time, because you know, the more you sync into it, there's only so many sales you can get on a game without DLC and battle passes and all that. And it was just gonna be a game with maybe DLC, right? Yeah. Maybe they'd get some micro transactions in there,

but like, realistically, it wasn't gonna be anything that would crush numbers we'd never seen before. Yeah. So like, I guess so. I know. It's like, how do you convince the investors to like stick around? and like be happy, right?

Because you got it, there's a lot of pressures, right, from outside forces. Oh yeah, it's a business? We can't, we can't forget. And also, is it fair to ask people to spend like 10 years of their life on the same fucking thing? In some ways, I'm like, I guess they're being paid.

Manga has be like just 10 years. Yeah, yeah, right? Well, Mangakas are built different. The Japanese work ethic is just saying that we just don't, we just don't have in the West. There's just like, those dudes are like chill. There's a rookie numbers gonna pump them up. Yeah, they are.

Well, I mean, in the case with Manga's, that's all they have. But even like Iraqi said, right, who did Jojo, right? He said that the reason why he split it into parts of generations is like he said, I would get bored drawing the same characters for like 35 years. Yeah.

He had the foresight to see that he would, and I don't blame him. I would get, fuck. Could you imagine you gotta draw fucking Mickey Mouse like 150 times a day? You'd blow your brain out. You'd know like the exact- That's what enemy was, yeah.

You'd know the exact Goose size. Can you imagine if fucking Jonathan was still like the main character of Jojo to this day? Yeah, imagine you didn't even, like, you ended up, like not even liking the character you made after X-O- Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like, you'd lose your mind. Yeah, yeah. You'd go crazy.

No, that's, that I can relate to because, no, as a YouTuber, I always like working on something new, you know, working on a new kind of content, as I'm sure you guys do as well, right? So I can't imagine, yeah, also dedicating that much time to just a single project. And I know there are people who have done that, you know, especially in, like, indie video games, where it's just like a one-man team working on this one game for fucking years and years. What's that, uh,

Google are the Russian film that's been in production for like 50 years. Just type that in, type that into Google. There's this, I watch this thing, this video from a Trostity Guide, it's about this video, about this Russian animation producer who hand draws every single like frame.

Oh, I think I know he's talking about. He's like the Walt Disney of Russia, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's super acclaimed and famous. Yeah. Like, his animations are insane. Yeah. It's amazing, but he's been working on this one,

animation for like a ridiculous amount of years. Right. It's just like it's never gonna be finished at the rate because he's like nearly dying. He's very, very old and he's like not even halfway. And it's like 30, 40 years in or something, really long. Well, what kind of movie is he making?

It's, it's animated. It's an animated story about, I think it's called the raincoat or something, it's a. The overcoat, that's it. Yeah, the overcoat, is that what it's called? Yeah. How many years have been in production for? 40.

40 years. For 40 years. Yeah. Has he released like previews or is he? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Has he just like said, guys, I'm working on this video. He gets, he has it's coming out. The yellow like delay thing comes out every 10 years.

It's like, guys, give me another 10 years. People reply to it. I book work off to watch this. What the fuck? Imagine YouTube's be like, guys, I'm working on something big. It's big. 10 years later, guys, I'm still working on it. It's gonna be something big.

Upday video every 10 years. They've released portions of the film that you can watch. And it is, It is very beautiful. Yeah. But it's also like really sad because it's like, oh, this thing, this drawing, this set of drawing

that has consumed this man's life and that has drove this man to insanity and ruined all of his relationships and everything because he's also like a dick to everyone because of course every director ever is a massive dick. Yeah, of course. Yeah, and he's like really apparently very harsh,

works insane hours, makes his wife work like crazy as well. Right. How's he getting paid? I think donations. Kickstarter. Kickstarter. Kixada, yeah, Indigo, go, go, go find me, all the works, you know.

God, he must have gone through like every donation platform known to man if he started 40 years ago. So they don't have any technology in the studio. They refuse to have any technology because, of course they do, and they do it all by hand. But it's like, at what point

when you're making something for so long are you like, all right, right, come on. Come on, fuck off, come, finish it. Come on, stop now. This is a joke. Yeah, sort it out. Sort out, mate. So sort your life out.

Come on. There's more to do it. life just as one project. Well, you know, it goes past a point where it's just like, you are just letting this consume you to a point where you're not creating anymore. It's just, it's just taking a hold of it. It's just an addiction. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're not, this isn't healthy. Because you're not going to finish it. And at that point, the matter what you release is never going to be worth the amount of powers. For the years of your life? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's only a few things that are worth 40 years of you're It's not gonna be wrong, it looks amazing,

but it's also very sad hearing the story of this guy and it just takes over his life. Yeah, I mean, he must really love it. I'm sure that's an understatement of the year, but- I don't know, I feel like it's not, the same, I think it's an obsession. Is it desperation? I don't think, I don't know,

it's probably one of those things where it's like, it's definitely not healthy. Yeah, yeah, it's, I mean, you know, it's not like a passion, but I think it's only a passion. I think it's obsession, which is, you know, obsession is different from passion. What's like the longest you guys

have ever worked on a single project? I mean, because like, you recently just uploaded your cosplay video, you know? Very good, very good. Because I remember every few weeks or something, you'd be like, yeah, I'm going to a shoot. It's the cosplay video.

And I swear that went on for like a fucking year or something. It was a year, yeah. It took a long time. Yeah, it's all right. It's good. It's good fun. It wasn't too. Was that the longest thing you've worked on?

Yeah, not hours put in. But as in like time and number of shoots, yeah, it was the most. Yeah. You know, and it's fine. I mean, it wasn't too hands on. Just kind of getting the edit down was difficult. What's like the most you've ever put into one project in them?

Oh my gosh. I don't know. Okay, I'll go first then. Is yours the fate one? Huh? Is yours the fate one? No, no, no. It's like the most I've ever put in was fucking,

must be like 10 years ago or something now. I made this top 20 list called like the top coolest anime characters of all time or something along those lines, right? That sounds like a 2010 YouTube year. Yeah. How did this take you years? Okay, so get this. It was eight parts.

It was, it was an eight part series. Right, because I would spend- A part featuring 10 characters? No, 20 characters. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. So every part would contain like two or three characters and each part would be at least like 15 to 20 minutes long, right?

Right. And I was working, I was working on this one single project basically throughout university. I basically wasn't uploading anything but this one fucking series. And I realized about two videos in after I'd spend like months just working on two videos. I'm just like, I've made a massive mistake. Would you finish it?

I've made a massive mistake. I did finish it. It took me and like, it took me an entire year to finish, right? And it took me an entire year to finish. And I remember when I finished it was basically when I graduated from university. And I put the script of this top 20 list next to my dissertation. And the top 20 list was twice the length of my dissertation that I had worked my last year on on union.

So my dissertation, which I spent an entire year working on, was half, half like the length of this fucking YouTube video series that had worked on in that same year. Oh my God. So that was- So good. Yeah, and I don't know. At some point, you kind of like,

it's not motivation that's keeping you going because when you have a project that big, you just want to finish it just so you can fucking finish it. Oh yeah. Halfway through you just want to start. Yeah. You can't because you've started. Yeah.

The Yowie audiobook took me like a month of like, like it's probably like a month, at least five days a week, eight to 12 hours. nonstop. Yeah. Reading this fucking book over and over again. Yeah. Non-stop.

Read that book so many times. I hate it. I hate it now. I can't look at it. It drives me insane. I like it. I like it a lot. I hate it.

Because like, you get to about 50, 60% of the way in and you're just like, this is shit. I'm done. I'm not doing this anymore. And then you're like, but I gotta finish. I just like,

there's just something about having an unfinished project that just grinds my careers. You can't stop. Yeah. You have to. People are going to be like, Oh, where's Ava Bridge 2.0? And I'm just like, I did the first film.

That to me is like a completed, completed project. That's why part of the big reason I didn't want to continue that was because I didn't want to put that upon myself again to start a project that I knew it's gonna take fucking years to finish. And that's what like, that's what excites me, but that's what also scares me the biggest, like the most when it comes to take you on a big project. Because I've got like a lot of different ideas

for a lot of big projects I eventually want to do. But just knowing what it's like where you're like excited, you're motivated for like the first half and then that just peters off and you start hating your project and start hating yourself and you're just like, I just want to get this done. That's me, it's just, that, that is like such an awful grind. What about you, Joe? What was your longest? I don't know. I mean... So everybody that stands out as being like grueling? Or like anything, anything you worked on?

Music-wise or anything? I mean, music-wise, I guess, like, my first album took, like, two years to write. How long were you working on that album for? The first album I took like two years. It's like on and off, right? Yeah, that was on and off, because that was just like a side project passion. So you throw a little bit here and there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's like whenever I felt like doing it, because it's not really like, you know, my career isn't dependent on my own, right? Well, when did you feel like it was ready to like be released, you know? Um, because because I've had side projects like that as well, where you do like a certain percentage and you then you realize, wait a minute,

this, I might actually get to the end of this. Yeah, I might actually be able to finish this. I mean, the first album was like eight tracks. And I think by like track six, I was like, okay. Is this enough for an album? Or should I add more? Not sure.

And then, yeah, and then like, after that, like, it was kind of like a rush of like inspiration because it's like, you see the, you start to see the final product. You're like, the goal is right there. Like, I just need to run to it now. Yeah. The last 5% is actually really fun when it's all stuff.

Yeah, the last 5% is like, hell yeah. Yeah. But I don't know, in terms of videos, not too sure. I mean, I think the reason why a lot of my videos takes so long is because either me with whatever I'm working, with takes a long time to just come back. Like a lot of it is just like waiting. Yeah, yeah, right?

Like, so like I did the, I did that video with Ladybeard where we like run around the, like a figurine, like factory and like we did that video. That took, that video took like eight months. Oh God, if you're counting time, just getting like prayer. Oh my God, it's a different thing. Yeah, like that video,

tell me you're a Japanese YouTuber without telling me you're Japanese YouTube. Like that video took me eight months, but seven of those months was just waiting for them to give me the okay and for giving me a good date to start. And then the actual shoot took like a day and a half. So it's like, you know, I feel like in terms of like just sheer working on a video time,

like maybe, I don't know, a month is like the max. I can't tell you which video it is, but I have like a couple of videos like that. I feel that would trash say specials though as well. Oh yeah, yeah. The specials I think, yeah, definitely the longest so far. The lead time for the specials is just like so fucking long that sometimes you forget that they're coming out.

Yeah. You're like, was this a good special? I can't remember. Like I remember seeing the first draft of the drifting special and the cycling special I remember my first thought was, I can't believe I'd wasted all this time to record this shit.

By the time this episode comes out, the cooking special is probably out, right? Yeah, it is. Yeah, I mean, I guess we can talk about that. Because like that, oh my God, that first draft took like how long? That's just because I think, you know, it was one of those situations where trash taste takes priority

and because we're not, you know, because we know people are willing to wait. We do, it does take a while because it's not prioritized. like we don't say. And I guess we do want it to be like the best fucking quality that we can produce right because you know, so much work goes into the shoot.

It's the one thing I don't want to compromise on in terms of like quality. Can we talk about the Kendo special? I guess. Okay, so yeah, so we released a picture of us filming a Kendo special and you God, how fucking that was like months and months and months ago. And a lot of viewers may have just like forgotten about it.

But I know I see some Reddit posts every now and again, bringing that special up. Like, when's the Kendo special coming? When is it coming? We actually scrapped the special because we filmed for an entire day. We got all the source footage and then Moodan edited a first draft and we thought it was shit. It was shit.

And we thought like, there's only, like, there's only so much we can save through editing and voice over because the source footage unfortunately just wasn't there. So we had to make the decision to just, do we try and maybe frame this, maybe release as a mini special or maybe like something, something different, maybe it goes in the after dark channel, but we eventually came to the decision that we spent an entire day of his filming. We hired like three cameramen, four maybe, four,

and Ashley as a sound guy, we hired the Kendo people. And we scrapped it. We just, we just got like, I think like in general, there was like, room for salvation, but I don't think it would have, I think we can all agree, it wouldn't have been up to the standard of where we see TrashTay Special.

That we accept. It could have been 10 to 15 months. Yeah, it could have been like a decent, just like, you know, vlog-style video or anything like that. But like, yeah, as a special and especially after the cycling special, like, you know, we didn't,

we wanted to make something that was at that level of quality or above. Yeah, exactly. And the Kendo Special, no matter how much we could do, no matter how much Moodon could do, it just would not get to that standard. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

And, I mean, that doesn't mean, that doesn't mean we're not going to do a Kendo special. Part of the reason we decided to scrap it was because we saw potential to make it right and make it make it make it we learned a lot on that show we did learn a lot i mean you don't learn without failing right exactly and you know it fucking it fucking hurt because i remember i remember we were discussing what to do with this special for so fucking long i was like do we release it do we try and do something without do something with it and it were just on the back burner for like months and months and then it was a hard

decision but i feel like it's moments like this where you really really fucking learn something and part of the reason I think the cooking special is going to be good was because we took so many of the lessons that we learned from this failed special which we may reboot to a proper special that meets our standard but we took so much from this one experience which was a very expensive you know mistake you know it was it was an expensive experience but uh that's that's kind of like that's kind of like the quality the bar of quality we want to set yeah for at least for our specials our fucking a fucking podcast we can just argue about bone on chicken

or fucking whatever shitty food take we get for like a minute of time. And that's fine, you know. Yeah, but the special is like something we really wanna make sure we like fucking hit the nail on it. But, uh, yeah, I mean, hopefully, I mean, the cooking special will be out

by the time this episode comes out. So it's the previous, it's the episode before this one. Oh, it's the episode before this one. This is 82 if I'm mistaken. Yeah. Yeah. We'll hope you do it with the cooking special. Yeah.

Yeah. By the time you guys have seen this, you can see the cooking special from last week, but we don't know as of us recording right now. So yeah, hopefully you guys enjoyed that. Got robbed by Maylene's bullshit. No, you didn't.

You were never close to winning, Connell. You were never close to win. You were never going to win. You were never going to win. I got Melene kneecap me. Favorite of him. Maylin was an impartial judge. She played her role perfectly.

She was the chaotic evil that we needed in that video. Impartial judge, bro. Dude, dude, it's cause my sweat, just, you know, it tasted better, obviously, obviously. That was the reason. Yeah, this, you were missing this. If you haven't watched it, go watch the trash taste. Go watch the trash taste cooking special.

We did put a lot of work into it. Yeah, but I think like the aim for 2022 for us is to like maybe get a couple more specials out. That'd be nice. I mean, without compensating quality, right? Yeah, I mean, we've got a few ideas, which I think are gonna be really, really good. They're gonna be big as well.

so don't worry about. Yeah, it's all bad. We could have done more. Yeah, we could have. We could have. We could have, because I could have. We could have, but it would have been like really difficult

in the year that we had, especially with the restrictions. It was very difficult. Part of, part of the reason was every time we'd come up with a special idea, we'd just like, go to like, Mail in or Geeks Plus and be like, oh, can we get approval for this place?

And they'd be like, nope, everything's under lockdown right now. Pretty much. And that would just delay things for another few months and then the next few months. And then that just, Like that was just the first three quarters of the year, and then scrapping the one special

really set us back on the schedule. Yeah, it's a bit unfortunate really. So you could have had two specials this year, but we scrapped one special. Ideally, we want, what, three a year? Is that the soft thing that we set, three or two? I'd like at least two. I think three.

I don't wanna like push two far. As someone who just cut back to two uploads a month because three was too much. Let's promise, let's say two a year. Let's promise two at least, but let's try for three. Let's try for them. We'll try for three.

Because some of the ideas we have are going to take months of fucking planning. Yeah. I think we could do two at least. Three maybe. I like, I would like, I'm, the optimistic side of me says three a year. Yeah.

But the realistic side of me says two a year. Yeah. We got our streams too, we got our streams we're focusing on as well. Yeah, exactly. You know, we'll get three. We'll get three. Let's do five.

Let's do, no, fuck it's do one a month. One a month. One a month. You know, I remember when I- So we are hiring about 20 content producer roles. I remember when I started anime in minutes and I promised one a month.

And look how that turned out. Well, that's just clown. That's clown buffoonery right there, gone. You can't, bro, how are you gonna schedule voice acting sessions, bro? What are you, bro? I thought I'd min-maxed it and then I realized that I couldn't get it to the,

it actually wasn't the voice acting side. It was just the scripting side where I couldn't get it to the quality that I wanted for every series. I think it's also just gonna be hard to do three a year, not only because of, you know, like the after dark stuff we're doing as well, but also just the fact that I think like, on all of our main channels, we're just gonna like,

2020 is just like another stepping quality up. Yeah, and just time taken. And so it's like, yeah, we need all the help we can. Basically, help us, help us. Help us. Help. But I would like to, like just for myself, I would like to get at least two out a year. I think, I think that's a good job.

I mean, we could have easily done it last year. Yeah. And we did film two last year. We did do last two last year. If one wasn't a learning experience, we would have had too. So that I think that was- If we didn't fuck up, you'd have to.

Yeah, yeah. If, if, if, if, if, if, yeah, unfortunate circumstances made us fuck up. Yeah. You know, it's whatever. But speaking of something that is not going to be a special just yet. We almost died.

Can we pee? Wow. Call back. I need to pee before. Get in. Whoa, Connor needs to pee. What is? Shoo!

Keep this in, Moon, Un, this is rare evidence of Connor asking for a toilet before me or Joey have even asked. I've never asked to pee before. You know, I'll take this, I'll take this rare opportunity to also pee. Yeah, I might as well. This episode is sponsored by ExpressVPN. Watching Netflix without using ExpressVPN

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Because it's kept in this time. So they knew that we were having a piss break. I hope it was like at least an ad in between that or something. You know, just a break in. Otherwise it would be very awkward. No, we're either coming back from an ad break or piss break. Or a piss break.

Or both. Who knows? But yeah, as Gant said, we almost died. Not really. But not really. It's, I mean... It's a YouTuber, we almost died. Like, under certain circumstances,

I'm sure we could have died. It felt like I was dying. Yeah. That's for sure. But yeah, so you guys probably saw on our social medias that we... If you don't follow us on Twitter.

Yes, please follow us all on Twitter and trash days as well. But we posted a couple of photos of us going camping. and so many people thought, they were like, Camping special? You're a camp special? No, it's not.

It's not. It's not a bad idea. But we do, you know, we do like to hang out as mates as well. Who I thought that sometimes we just hang out without cameras? Holy shit. Are we allowed to do that? Is that legal?

No, we did take issues. We did. Come on. That's not part of my contract. We've got cameras in there. But we didn't film it. I was going to vlog it for the second channel, but I was having too much fun where I was like, fuck it.

Yeah, maybe no. Log what? I was just getting smashed? Yeah, exactly. But, yeah, so basically, Nabi, who works behind the camera, as well as a bunch of his friends and three of us, we went camping to Mount Fuji and it was fucking awesome. It was awesome until we almost died. Until we had to sleep.

And it is the first time I've been camping in these kind of weather situations. Same. So it was the first time. So camping in England, right? The most you gotta fucking worry about is some mild rain a lot of the time. It's like a mild annoyance.

I've camped in the winter before, I think. In the UK? Yeah, I'm pretty sure, but it wasn't that cold. Yeah, right? Like how cold does it get in the UK in the winter though? Depends where you are in the UK. Because it's like a lot of places snow, right? In the UK?

Yeah, yeah. Snow's fine though. Snow's all right. Yeah, snow isn't that cold. I mean, it wasn't even snowing where we were and it was pretty fucking cold. Everything was frozen. Yeah, yeah. Frozen is like worse than cold.

Right, right. That's like when the grass is frozen, it's like way colder. Because when the snow compact, it doesn't feel as cold. Right. Yeah, yeah. But we basically went to this place called Fumotopara, which if you've watched

Eurocamp is the place where the girls went. Is that legitimately where they went? I think that's actually where they went. Is it actually? Yeah, it's like the actual location they went to. Bruh. Which is why there's so many Eurocamp references. They fucking lie to me.

They fucking lie to me. They made it look comfy. They made a little comfy. They made a little comfy. They made a little comfy. They made it look fucking, what's comfy about negative five degrees weather trying to sleep in a fucking 10? There was nothing comfy about that.

Let me give you the lowdown. Yeah, please, please do, please do. All right, first of all, it began in a group chat, right? The camping trip, we're like, we're going to do a camping trip, group chat. I'm checking out immediately. I'm that one friend that doesn't read the group chat at all. I don't look at it, whatever. If you want something from me, message me.

I don't open group chats because the moment I see 20 messages, I'm like, all right, peace. I'm not reading 12. Someone give me a cliff notes. Yeah, I'm like, someone just tell me. Yeah, I'm sorry for your loss, but I'm not reading that.

I don't know about you boys. This is my, my POV. It's like a few days before. And I'm like, oh yeah, shit, I don't have anything. I realize I don't have anything. I was like, oh yeah, I have camping stuff. Thinking back to like the UK,

I'm like, shit, I don't have camping stuff. I didn't mind you. I thought I had a sleeping bag. I did not have a sleeping bag. Okay. And I didn't bring a chair. I forgot about that. So I had to buy a chair last minute.

So I want to, Amazon panicking me like two days before because they told me to buy stuff because I was like, oh shit, I didn't buy stuff. So I started looking and there was only one sleeping bag that was available to be delivered in time before I left. I could have gone to a store, I don't wanna go to a store. So I was like, I'll get one off Amazon.

I'm lazy. I bought a chair too and it arrived. The chair was very heavy, very big. I was like, fuck. Two fair was worth though, right? Yeah, the chair came in, I think I had the best chair in the end actually. It was this chair that was like- The choice one had water damage from like the amount of times

you'd like put it outside. This chair is quite heavy, very big. I'd say, ah, that's not that big actually, that's bigger, but it was a chair where the back was connected to the legs. So when you leaned on the back, the legs popped up. And I don't know, man, it was so satisfied. It was like a reclining chair, but camping.

Yeah, yeah. Anyway, so I got all the stuff, right? And I'm like, all right, I've been camping a ton before. It's whatever. I don't need to buy too much. It's one night. One night camping is like, bro, I could just do that with like my clothes.

I'll just sleep on the grass. It's not a big deal, right? Like, I'll be fine. Yeah. Because I've done that before. We've like slept outside with just sleeping bags. We have done that. Oh yeah, yeah, exactly.

Um, no tent. Yeah. Yeah, you've done that? Yeah, I've done it too, yeah. It's not a big deal. I thought I'll be fine. If the weather's good, especially, which is- Yeah, and then, uh, Nabi was like,

oh, did you get like a thermal wear? I'm like, get thermal wear. I'm not getting thermal wear. What the fuck? It's like, I'm camp, I don't need thermal wear. I'll wear a hoodie, bro, it's fine. Mind you, we went like first week of December. So most places in your,

It hasn't quite gotten to like winter weather yet. It definitely isn't that cold in Tokyo. Well, okay, here's a thing, right? And I was, he said that to me and I was like, I'll look how cold it's gonna be. It predicted like one degree. Yeah. And I was like, one degree is fine.

If I'm sleeping in my clothes, in a sleeping bag, in a tent. One degree is fine if I'm wearing, because I had like a hoodie and a big coat, and I had a long sleeve shirt. I'm like, I'll be fine. I'll be fine. I was not fine. Okay, we're talking Celsius, by the way. Yeah, so you're talking in Celsius.

For American, that's four lollipops, actually, in case you want to convert that. about that. Sorry. I mean it's like 36 Fahrenheit. It's very cool. Yeah, so, so, you know, that's what we thought it was going to be. So anyway, we had a great time, right?

We got in the car. Yeah. Played some beats. We had a nice car journey, two-hour car journey to Fuji. You know, it's pretty chill from Tokyo. And got the most insane views of Mount Fuji. Oh, yeah, it was like clear. My God.

I mean, you saw the pictures, the fucking views that were, the reason we went in winter was because there's no mist, no cloud at all, right? It's just a clear picture of Mount Fuji. and every picture I took of Mount Fuji actually looks photoshopped. It's unfucking way. We put that green screen to work.

It was amazing. Like there was no cloud in sight, right? Yeah, it was insane. And on the car there, I was getting kind of toasty. I was getting a little bit too hot. I had to take my hoodie off. The sun was out. I was, it was beating on me.

I was one layering. I was like, bro, this is gonna be easy moment. And then, you know, if all else failed, I would have beer. So if I got super cold, at least I would be moderately drunk and I could sleep. Yeah. Right?

So I thought... That was also my strategy. Mine never matter. This is a foolproof plan. Yeah. Nothing could go wrong. And like we've been camping before, as though me and Joe in.

We weren't going to make the same mistake. We bought way too many beers this time. We bought like two crates beers, two more crates of beers than we actually needed in the end. Well, yeah, because I thought everyone was going to pull their weight. Yeah. I mean, everyone had the same, around the same amount.

Yeah, I had that around the same. Yeah. Oh, really? one beer from like 72 beers that we bought. That is not pulling your weight. I think we all had like maybe seven or eight beers at least. I was very drunk. Yeah, it's like seven or eight beers.

I'm gonna say that some people I heard weren't able to sleep during like during the trip. Yeah. Because it was so cold and I'm just saying I did sleep a lit and I had some beers. So what can you say? What can you say, right? What can you say?

Life hack, life. We'll get that POV later on. So we go to the nearest supermarket to this, at place, we raid their entire beer stock, their breadstock, their sausages, fuck, the sausages was so good. Yeah. There's just something about sausages on a charcoal grill

that just hits different. Okay. But sausage is the best. I don't know why. Okay, I'm gonna say, when we were buying sausages, everyone's just like, oh, just buy the original flavor. Buy more, buy more. No, no, you were just saying,

just buy the original flavor. You just buy the original flavor. And I pick up the chili cheese flavor, and everyone looks at me of such disgust. Everyone looks at me with such disgust of like, Gant, what are you doing? get your trash taste out of here. And then when we started eating it,

it was like the sausage that went the quickest. You know, everyone has some, everyone loved it. I like the other one more. Fuck you, Joey. That's not what you were saying earlier. No, no, no. Because I got, I was curious, because everyone around me was like,

yeah, these chili cheese ones were really good. I'm like, I bet. I had it and I was like, okay, it's pretty all right. But that is not what you say. That is no one. You haven't had a good sausage. I was probably like, what, three or four beers in. So I was like, you were super optimistic.

I was like, yeah. Your Honor, he was drunk. My client, my client. Your Honor, he doesn't know what you said. I was not sober when I had, though. He was a rebri- You think you can use that excuse for like, you know, drunk trying sausages? You think that holds up in a court of law

with drunk driving? No, it doesn't, Joey. It doesn't. It doesn't. It does. Because he said it doesn't mean it was a good decision, gone, all right? I didn't quite kill another person eating the sausages. You killed my spirit, Joey. When I heard that, when I heard that, Joe,

you killed my spirit. That's all that matters, man. So, I'll set this off it. So we raid the supermarket, we take everything, we get every condiment known to men. I was glad you know, sometimes people, you know, when they buy all the meat and stuff, they forget to buy the condiments.

But arguably we bought too many condiments. This boozy motherfucker bought Dijon mustard. I didn't, that wasn't me. Who put the Dijon mustard? Who put Dijon mustard? Who put Dijon mustard when we were on a barbecue? I'm like, bro, just get the fucking squirty. And it was like the one in the jar.

Yeah, the one in the jar. Yeah, the one in the jar. And there was no knives. So I was like, what do you expect? What do you expect? We're gonna like get in the fucking Dijon on my hot dog. By the way, there was no hot dog buns because sometimes they don't have hot dog buns

in the supermarket in Japan. So we did the Joey way of doing it, which is folding a piece of bread. The Australian way. The Australian way, that's, the sausage sandwich. Getting one slice of bread and rolling it. Folding it around.

That's the Israeli way to do it. It was, okay, it's fine, it tasted fine, but it just looked sad. It looks sad. It literally does the same. I didn't feel. It does the same job. Actually, if anything, you get to eat more.

Oh, no, no, no, no. I would argue it's better because you eat less bread, therefore you have more space for sausages. I agree. I never finish the entire sausage. Like the hot dog buns are so thick. Yeah, the entire hot dog buns are so thick. Yeah.

Because there's always like more bread needed than the sausage in it. Are you, are you, I can't believe these takes, actually. I'm not even, I'm not even, you know, Hot-bugs are overrated this one. I'm so done. It's such a shit take. I'm not arguing.

I'm not arguing with this. I'm not, what are you talking about? I refuse to start, to go down to the level of clowns. I'm not arguing this. I'm gonna let that take speak for itself. I'm just gonna say I don't agree. Respectfully, I disagree, God.

I think the bread is the perfect amount. Anyway, I can't believe you just said that. I'm in awe. I can't believe this. I'm a, I'm a, no, no, okay, okay. So we take, we buy the whole food of the supermarket. It's too thick.

It's too thick. It's not. It's literally not. On the chong chart, it is like the second It's pretty thick, right? It's like twice the thickness of the sausage. People who love hot dogs here are dying right now, dying inside.

That's all I'm saying. Okay, so we spend $400 on this food for like nine, seven, nine, eight of us. Yeah, 400 bucks on food. Yeah, it was good. And booze and booze. Oh yeah, it was mostly the booze. It was like half booze, actually, yeah.

Me. Yeah, it was a little. Yeah, it was so. So we bought it all, and we finally started setting up our camp. Yeah. And getting the fire going, which is the most important. We got two fire pits going.

Yeah, and then we, we bought like, two little baby snacks of like plywood or whatever it was. It wasn't plywood, but it may as well have been play wood. Like two by fours, right? Yeah, and luckily the store there sold a shit ton of firewood, so we bought a fuck ton of firewood. Oh yeah, in Japan, you have to buy your firewood.

You can't just like go into the bush. No, no, no, no, you gotta buy your firewood. Well, too fair in most places in most campsites, like official ones, you can't do that. Yeah. Oh, really? In Europe as well, you can't just start chopping down trees. Unless the site says you can.

But most people don't, like, most people don't know how to chop down the tree, though. Right, right. But in Australia, we don't like, go around fucking deforestation or anything, but like, you know, if you go out into the bush and you can see any, like, you can pick up like the dead branches

and stuff like that, you bring it back, like that's how weird. Problem is though that branches burn super fast. Right, that's what you're gonna get like the thick, like, you know, almost rotting wood. Yeah, so they sold these really thick pieces of oak that were great, it's wonderful. We started up a fire and we started barbecuing.

It's great, right? Yeah, it was fantastic. We were having a fantastic time. It was like a comfortable temperature as well. It was like, probably like, you know, maybe five, I would say it was even like warmer than that. I was like, like six maybe, six, seven degrees.

Had a great time, start cracking open the beers. Yeah, started enjoying the food. It was brilliant. Joey laughed at how I ate a hot dog one time or something. I don't remember you were like, you were like laughing your ass off at how I ate this hot dog one time. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

I like, we were like five or six beers in and Connor was obviously like, you know, getting a little bit tipsy. And he took, I don't know, it just caught my eye. Like I just, I just looked over and Connor had this hot, and it looked like the hot dog was trying to escape out of his mouth.

Because I shoved half the hot dog in my mouth. He shoved it in his mouth and just went, all I heard was this like, you know, like the fucking video of the puff of fish eating the carrot? And then it does like the, oh, sound like, I heard that come out of the corner's mouth as he was shoving this hot dog. He's like, oh, I was like, oh my God.

Joe's like pissing himself. Because I was laughing for like a good 15 minutes. I was like bending over because I was a lot of sauce on it, because the problem was I put, I did the rookie area of putting away too much condiments. and I knew the condiments was gonna come out, right? Yeah, yeah. And what happened was is that I think,

I think I had taken a bite that was so big that I either committed to putting it all in my mouth in one go, or if I bid it and stop, the condiments would just go all over me. So I bent forward and just shoved it all in and one and all the condiments like fell down. Hey, yo, this boy's dicking down a hot dog. I was like raw dog in it, bro.

I was taking it. It was just so good, man. I don't know what it is, for some reason with hot dogs, when it comes to barbecues, I can eat like two burgers and I'm like, oh fuck. Yeah. Hot dogs, I'm like, one, another one please? I'm like six in, I'm like, let's go, another hot dog. Yeah, another hot dog.

To be fair, those sausages were really good. I actually think, I actually prefer hot dogs over burgers. Yeah, I mean, too, in a barbecue. Because like in a barbecue, you have one burger and that's enough for me, that's enough. That's like, if we're gonna go with like how, like, courses are structured to me, like the burger is the main course, right? But I can eat so much of like the hot dog around the burger.

You start off with hot dogs. and you have the burger, and then for some reason, you can eat like three more hot dogs sometimes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like my stomach is an infinite hole when it comes for hot dogs, when it comes to hot dogs. And then we also have, like, the skewers as well, which just got demolished in like five minutes as well

because they were so good and like, yeah, what is it about burgers? That is just like on a different scale of like filling compared to like everything else we bought. I don't know. I don't get it. I think it's just because it takes that much more effort to cook. I guess, yeah.

Because you have to like, you have to like build the burger as well and it's a lot bigger. you know, it's not just something, it's not just something you can, you know, casually pick up off the grill and just start eating. You gotta, you gotta make sure it's like a nice burger that you like.

You gotta make sure the cheese is perfectly toasted the way you wanted to be toasted. We tried to like butter our bread, but like the butter was so fucking cold that I think it was Edo or something who tried to put butter, put blocks of butter on the burger bun. So it was like squares of butter

on this burger bun because it was like too cold to be spread. And he just like chucked it on the, He just chucked it on the fire and all the chunks just fell down. And he was adamant that he could perfectly butter this fucking burger. I was watching the entire time, I was like, what did you want to do?

What were you expecting to have? He's just buttering the fire. In my mind, when you're at a, in your barbecuing stuff, I'm like, I expect the quality of this burger to not be as on par as a restaurant. Yeah. I don't need my, my barbecued burger buttered bun.

I'm like, you can just Toast it, it's fine. But no, it wasn't even like the worst idea that happened during the fucking- This was a good idea. I know you're gonna say this is right? Because, like, you know when you're a few drinks and you do something that you think is a good idea

and like it works in your mind. So we had, we also had eggs, right? But we had nowhere to cook the eggs. So Connor- Like a grill, right? We didn't have any like pans or anything. No pans. We just had like a grill, a mesh grill, right? So Connor comes up with the idea of trying to cook this egg on a burger bun.

And, you know, it's a hit... I really wanted an egg on my burger. So what he does is he places the paddy on the grill. No, no, it was the bun. Oh, sorry, the pond. So he places the bun on the grill and then he cracks an egg on top of it. Naturally, all the white of the egg just fucking spills

over the edge into the fire. I knew that was left as a fucking yoke. And this yoke is like, it's like ice hockey. It was just like slipperying around on this thing and he's just like trying to fucking control it. Yeah. And then in the end it spilled over. Running the fire. And it was a very sad moment.

And I was saying, there's no way you could cook an egg on a burger bun. on a grill. That's just like there's, there's so many things that can go wrong and it did go wrong. Here's what my thinking was,

obviously I was a few years in, but I was, I thought that the flames of the fire was so big because it was like enveloping the bun. Yeah. I was like, it'll reach the egg. It'll cook the egg.

It'll do it. It'll do it. It's hot enough. It'll do it. The entire time as well, he was like, Galaxy Brain. Galaxy Brain. Watch this.

Game a moment. Game a moment. I'm just like, you are wasting a publicly good egg. No, I had an eggy bun and it gave the good egg flavor to my burger. There was like one fifth of the yolk left on that thing.

Hey, it was good. You just made egg-y bread. It don't hate, yeah, and I liked it. I liked it, it was good, it was good. It's like the world's shittiest French toast. It was amazing. I had a great burger. Who I brought the aluminium foil?

No one used it. Because like you are, you are so dedicated to cooking this egg, and it was like watching someone try to suck, fucking solve that Zelda puzzle in Breath of the Wild. You know, we know how fucking shitty it is, like, controlling that puzzle with like, like your we moat or whatever. You guys sit in your comfort of knowing what works.

I am the daring type who tried something new. I just wanted to see if I could get an egg to cook on a burger. I knew it wasn't gonna go well because the whole ordeal started with Connor going, watch this. And you know, anything that starts with a comfort and watch this, five beers in,

is not going to go well. Imagine if it worked though. I'd have been like a fucking god. Oh, I would have applauded you. I would have been a god amongst men if I made that work. That would have been amazing. But you know, I like a Chris,

I flew too close to the sun. I tried something that I shouldn't have. What can I say? You know, it was, it was amazing. And then you gave up and just like flipped the burger and then the rest of the egg just went into the fire. I wanted to, I was like, all right, if I can't have the egg cooked perfectly on the bun,

I'll at least have this French toast flavor to add to my burger. Yeah, I will say. It added the flavor profile that I was quite happy with. So suffice to say that the dinner went well and then, you know, under the stars, there's amazing starlight and with the, you was amazing. With Fuji in the background,

we were having good time. There was a problem. though, we were running out of wood. Yes. And the store had closed. I was going to say, so we ate like kings and we drank like kings. We, uh, we learned from the last camping trip. We overstocked on pretty much every fucking resource we could think of.

No, food we had a bunch of food left. We saw it had a bunch of food left. Yeah, I thought we ate it all. Yeah, no. I mean, I ate it while you were. If somebody had told me, I would have ate it all. I would have jumped. Okay.

No, no, it's because, it's because, uh, we ran out of coal. Yeah. And we ran out of five. firewood, in camping outside on a winter's night. We ran out of the one resource that is essential for basically human survival, which is heat. It kind of sucked because it was like, oh, I'm pretty sure we could still keep going. Yeah.

But I got to about 11pm and we could see them. No, no, no, I remember it got to about 9pm, right? I remember because it got to about 9pm and we still wanted to cook some more food. But the wood just wasn't bringing enough heat to actually like cook stuff because it was just charing it. going out, right? Because we needed coal for it. So we decided to stop cooking and just keep on drinking as you do,

you know, just keep going with the liquid dinner. Yeah. But I remember it hit about 9pm and it started getting a bit nippy. Like it started going from like a comfortable temperature to, okay, now I've got to put on this winter jacket because I'm actually starting to feel this cold. Yeah, it went down to maybe around like two, three degrees maybe Celsius.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I remember looking at the firewood. And we had somehow gone through about 70% of the firewood that we had bought previously. And I remember thinking, fuck, how much, how much longer is this going to last us, right? And I remember it was at that point that I think we subconsciously started

to like ration it because like it got colder, but I remember the fires also started to get colder as well because we weren't putting in the, we weren't putting in the wood like, all willy-nealing anymore. We were like, I noticed that like people were slowly approaching the fire pit like closer and closer. I was further away initially.

I was like, I don't need that much, I'm fine, I'm hot. But then, like, got to the point where I was like, oh, I need the fire, or I'm actually going to, like, just die. Yeah, like, our knees were basically in the fire. Yeah, made me realize how shitty fires are, you know, they must have had to, like, literally, like, sleep next to it because I'm like, this shit is awful. Yeah, probably.

The range of this fire is terrible. I mean, air is a terrible insulator. But I was like, this is terrible. I have to basically have my hands in this thing to be weird. I can't make nature nerf the AOE of fire? Well, can they fix that patch? Can they have the range increase to fire? I don't know what fucking Newton was thinking.

What's up with that? What's up with you transfer? Windurfing the airway. It's too powerful. No, because I remember the fire was like hot enough being close to it. But then my ass was like freezing fucking cold. So every so often, like I'd just have to like put my ass on top of the fire. And then like Joey was just fucking farting nonstop throughout the entire camping trip.

And like every time he put his ass off across the fire, I'm like, Joey, please don't fart right now. Like I like hold, I held my breath. Right? Because like I knew of like Joey farted. I swear to God, it would have used up the rest of the firewood. That was like, in the fire. The wood just starts like, wait down, no, no.

Okay, first of all, when you stand up for a moment, right? The chair that you'd been warming up for like 30 minutes instantly becomes cold again. It instantly free, which sucks, which meant like you didn't want to move, but you had to pee, you had to also like just put stuff on the fire or whatever, so it was awful. And also, the one thing that happened,

where I was like, we're gonna die, is that they try to light, I think, the fire starters with a gas fire, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then... Oh, yeah, I remember that. So they tried to light, one of their guys turned on the gas for this,

this, it was basically like a, what would you even call it? Like a propane. Blow torch, yeah. I was like, why the fuck do we have a blow torch? Why don't we just have like a normal light or something? Like a match, yeah, I don't know.

But we had a blow torch. And he lit it, right? And he went to go and point it to start a fire. And the whole blow torch just went on fire. And I was like, uh, you might want to put that out. And it's, it was, that torch was catching on fire. The gas canisters right next time.

I'm like, uh-oh, uh-oh, fire plus can pressure, uh-oh, uh-oh. And I was like, I'm getting away. What the fuck, put it out, put it out. Yeah, so. But the thing is we were like six or seven pieces that everybody else just kind of sitting there like, oh, it's on fire. I remember that exact moment.

I was, I backed off, I was running away. These boys are sitting there watching, watching not helping at all, just watching this guy holding this gas canister on fire. And I'm like, I'm running away. And I'm like, what the fuck are you guys doing? Run! Yeah, because like we, we, I remember my exact

was I see it happened, like I see him pointing it towards the fire. He presses the button and then the gas just leaks on like throughout the entire can. So the entire can is covered. Connor goes like fight or flight mode. He's just like when that one quiet kid like reached for his back, you know, he's fucking half, he's fucking half a mile down, right? I'm not getting near. And like, unlike me being like six cans of beers in, I'm just like, ooh, fire. And then it was only after Connor's like, guys, what the fuck are you doing?

We almost just died and I'm just like, but the fire, it's so pretty. Yeah. He was like holding fire, that's so cool. These guys didn't even say anything. They literally sat there like stoner's just watching this. Yeah, I literally like saw him holding this can of fire and I was just like, ha ha.

And the guy, like, I don't know who was holding it. That's like, I was like, ha ha. I don't know who was holding it, but I was like, turn it off, turn the gas off. Yeah, Wayne was holding it. A friend Wayne was holding it and he was like, oh, You didn't know what to do. What should I do?

Turn it off, turn it off. That was about to be an awesome. I ran to a distance and then I was giving instructions. I was like, all right, no, turn it off. I remember you running to a distance and you're like, guys, what the fuck are you doing? What are you doing? And I'm just like, oh yeah, I should probably care for my life.

Yeah, I remember thinking that and I was like, either run or help. I have two options. Should we all right? Should we all right? Yeah. So yeah, don't do what we did. We're, what did, Connor did the correct thing

and the pan- I could have helped, but also I would have had run around the fire and I was like, I don't know how dangerous this is. My guess, my best would have been, how about we just leave it on the floor and then all run. Yeah. So yeah, so that happened and I can't remember

if anything else happened during the campsite. I'm pretty sure these gas canisters have fail saves so that even if they somehow lied on fire like that, they don't. You think so. I don't know though. But also I know that you can't heat up a metal gas canister for very long before it goes boom.

Yeah, that's true. That's true. And I'm sure the campsite would have loved that. Well, we were all right. We survived. I don't know how we survived. We didn't end up on our slash watch people die, so don't worry, we're all good.

All it took was a few shakes and a bit of a blowing. Yeah, exactly, exactly. It wasn't a big fire, but it was just like, fire plus gas canister, not good. Yeah, that could have ended very badly. Under any other circumstance, I would have been in the same panic modes, but I kind of don't know why.

I was drunk, okay? I was very drunk. I was shockingly calm. Yeah. It was like, just, just put it out. Just put it out. I kind of just, I remember the thought going through my mind of I should get up and run.

But the seat's so comfy right now. And it's really cold outside. It was like your mom asking you to get out of bed when it's like 7 a.m. It is how people die. It is how people die. It's, I was very stupid. But at the time, it just felt like the right thing to do

in my mind, which it wasn't. It wasn't. I was very darn. We could have died multiple times. This is like a double entendre of this title. Yeah, exactly. We almost died. We actually did.

Yeah. But yeah, so then that happened and then it got to around like, what, 11 p.m. When we exhausted out. 11 p.m. I could have still kept going. Yeah, me too. I wanted to keep. Yeah. But it got to the point where my entire life,

I've been conditioned to think that no matter how cold it gets, I can just drink more beer and it was solved the problem. This was the one time when I was outside with a thick jacket on and drinking more beer didn't solve the problem. Yeah. Because I just kept getting colder and I'm just like, what's going on?

So I start trying to drink more beer and I just kept getting colder. I'm just like, what is this? Well, the thing with alcohol is that you don't actually get warmer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know, you just think you're getting so that just, I just a testament to how cold it was actually getting rather than how cold my mind was thinking it was getting.

Because at a point, I just like wanted to stop drinking the beer because I would pick it up and it would just literally be freezing cold. Yeah, yeah, it was not even nice to drink because of how cold it was. because outside was so cold. Would have been great in the summer? Oh, in the summer, I loved it. Oh, God, would have been amazing.

But, you know, when it's like zero degrees outside and you're drinking zero degree beer, it's not like great. It was one of the few times where you drink a beer and it gets colder the longer you drink. Right? It's fucking awful. Like the beers would, like, because they were in a crate,

the beers would start off at a reasonable amount of coldness and then they would get to like, a reasonable coldness to like, almost frozen. Yeah. Also the thing about ice cold beers that's nice is that you're not normally drinking it, in ice cold conditions. Yeah, exactly.

So it warms up to a nice temperature and it's nice in your body. It's refreshing. But when it's just ice cold, in ice cold conditions, you're like, this feels like a bad idea. This feels like a bad combination. That's lukewarm beer would have been though.

Or hot beer. Because that's why they drink hot wine in the Christmas festival. So we did everything we could to elongate this fire, but nothing was working, okay? There was only so much we could ration out this firewood.

I think the last log lasted like us like for a four hour. There's only so many tiny little twigs you find on the paddock, right? Where it's like, yes, this will do. Yeah, yeah. I remember there was a tree next to where I pissed, and I like, I like picked up the leaves, right? And I'm just like, okay, these dead leaves,

these are work and they gave us like a microsecond of heat. And that felt like, that felt like to me at the time, like a full 10 minutes, right? We start, we start like using the fucking, uh, we start using like the beer packaging. So it was like, we had like all the cardboard packaging. And we were like, we went from using the beer, to like rationing it as like a as like a as like a big burst of heat.

Because that would give us like a nice big burst of heat for like a good five seconds. We'd all crowd around and we were like, all right boys, when do we do the next one? When do we use the next one? And we eventually just, I can't wait any longer. We eventually just didn't even drink the beers, but we just still unwrapped, unwrapped the beer with all the packaging. So we could use it as fuel. We should have recycled.

But instead we needed heat. Yeah. Yeah. But eventually, eventually, we ran out of things to I know, guys. Ran out of resources. I know. So I put Gant in the fire.

Unfortunately, he didn't burn. So eventually that was when we realized we had had to go to bed. And so we packed everything up and I remember... At this point it was maybe around minus one, minus two. It's starting to get pretty fucking cold. It was starting to get pretty, really cold. Yeah, but it was like negative degrees. For you Americans, that's negative from the boiling, from the freezing point of water.

So I don't know what the freezing. point of water is in Fahrenheit, but it was, it was below that. Below 32. Why is it 32? It's 32 Fahrenheit is zero degrees Celsius. Oh, okay. I didn't know that. I didn't know that either.

It's 30 something, I'm pretty sure, right? Yeah, 32. 32 is 0. So it was like maybe like 28 Fahrenheit. And this is when we came to realize how cold it really was going to be without even like a piddly little fire to heat us up. And I remember me and Connor went to into our tent first.

So me and Connor slept with Nabby in his tent and Joey and Luke slept in another tent and everyone else slept in a third tent. And I remember Connor jumping in, right?

Connor jumping in and just realizing how flimsy and thin his sleeping bag was. I literally had gotten a raincoat that had just been fashioned into it was like it didn't

have any padding or anything and I was like this is what I get for ordering. The only available sleeping rag on Amazon for next day delivery, yeah. It was like 20 bucks. Yeah, because I remember,

I think the warmest coat you have by far is your drip jacket. And this was the one time in the past month, I think I've seen you, without the drip jacket where it would have been very, very useful, I mind you. The reason I didn't bring it, right,

is because we were going to be burning a lot of shit and I was like, I didn't want to get this nice jacket that I paid way too much money for, super smoky, and he's probably gonna be messy too. It was messy, I dropped condiments everywhere. I was like, I'm gonna just leave it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wish I did. Yeah, but. Yeah, so Connor, like, fucking gets in the sleeping bag and Sween realizes that this is not going to be fucking warm enough at all. And he just gets over and he's like, Gant, Gant, Gant, I give you permission to cuddle me. Garn, we are cuddling tonight.

I'm like, Conner, we don't need to cuddle. We don't need to cuddle. And then I get into the 10, and I realize, fuck, we're gonna need to cuddle tonight, Connor. I take off my jacket as fast as possible, and then I try to get in the sleeping bag and I zip myself up and fucking freezing and I start like two caterpillars next to each other,

like fucking cuddling with each other. And then that still isn't warm enough. So I kind of realized pretty soon that I have to sleep with my jacket on because even with my jacket off, it's not going to be warm enough. Luckily at this point, I think we were pretty drunk, right? Yeah, I must say, was very funny from the other tent

when all I could hear was, Gant, cuddle me now, get closer to me. I was freezing. I'll be the small spoon, you be the large spoon, cuddle me now. Listen, I've seen enough bag rolls to know what to do. I knew what you did. Drink my piss now.

It's for survival. God, don't ask, but I fashioned my jeans into a piss filter. I'm already drinking the water. You can go next. I've already pissed in it, Gunn't. I think I was wearing like maybe six layers. I had fashioned my spare t-shirt

and put it around my neck. as a neck warm. Because it was so cold. Okay, what was the coldest part of your body? What was the part that was hurting? My feet. Yeah, it's the feet for me too. Yeah.

I was wearing the family mask socks, that didn't help. So I was like, damn it family marks. I was rocking a pair of jeans. It was fine, my legs were fine, honestly. That wasn't a problem. I was wearing a long sleeve, thin shirt

with a big, thick jumper. And I went to bed using my coat as the pillow because I didn't have a pillow. Yeah. woke up at like 2 a.m. I think, so I was too cold. And I put the jacket on. It didn't really help much because by that point I was already too cold. And the jacket was ice cold. I feel like because I was too cold. So like I wasn't heating up at all. So it didn't help. But my feet were just too cold. Yeah. So like so like the tactic that I had

in my head, right, was a fall asleep before you really start feeling the cold. Yeah. And that's that's why we just like before we went to the tent, we just started fucking downing beers like nobody's business. We're just like, all right, can we can we down a little bit? Yeah. Let's do it. We fucking, we fucking need it to in this weather. So after we down the beers, and I start cuddling Connor, it worked. Like I fell asleep actually pretty fast. Yeah, me too.

Yeah, I've got a good amount of sleep, I think. Yeah, so. Good quality sleep, I felt rough. Yeah, I got like a good three, four hours of sleep. Because I remember waking up at around 4 a.m. And that's when it really started to hit me the fucking situation I was in, right? That was like the minimum.

Wait, what time did you wake up? Did you not sleep at all? No, no, I slept, I probably slept maybe about two or three hours. And then I woke up at like, yeah, around four-ish, the same thing. Yeah. And then I was just like, I can't, I can't. I check the temperature is like minus six Celsius

and I was like, fuck it. See, see, I know that if you wake up and you actually start looking at your phone or stuff, you will wake up. Yeah, yeah. So every time I woke up, because I woke up sporadically throughout the night, I would just immediately force myself

to not do anything and go back to sleep. Yeah. So I got to sleep until around 5, 56, I think I remember. I just, I got out of the 10, I was like, I need to start walking. At that point it was like four or five degrees minus. Yeah, so I got out at like four a.m. And with like all the clothes I had on,

and I was just like, I'm just gonna go for a walk. Cause like, yeah. This is the only way I could walk. I was so much colder walking. Really? Yeah, because I had to, I had the problem of what happens when you drink too many beers, you need a pee. Yeah. And so I really, really needed the pee.

And the toilet was very far away. Yeah. So I walked to it. I bought a coffee from a vending machine there to heat my hands up. Because I was using, I paid a hundred, I paid a dollar every time. I needed to heat my hands up. I was so cold.

I don't even give a shit. I didn't drink the coffee. I just used it as a hand warmer. Yeah. It was like saving my life. It was like my life line. Yeah. I had gone through like four of these one dollar coffee

just to keep my hand warm. Cause I was like, oh my God. It was awful and it was dreadful and I had to go and pee and peeing was painful. But in this, luckily the one saving grace of this campsite was at the hotel, the toilet, thank God, praised Japan,

had a bidet and bedaes have a heated toilet. So I sat on this toilet seat for a good 15 minutes just going, just knowing that my ass was being warmed gracefully. It was amazing. One of my biggest fears when it goes to the camping, right, is having to pee after everyone's fallen asleep, right? Because I have the smallest fucking bladder in the world. Getting out of the tent.

And like getting out of the tent and waking everyone up as you're going out of the tent to pee, which sometimes if I'm drinking, I need to pee two or three times. I'm just bringing adult diapers. Yeah. Luckily, this- I'm gonna warm you up. Honestly, honestly. I'm bringing an adult doctor's next time.

It would serve two things. It would warm up my legs and my low half my body. And I wouldn't need to worry about peeing anymore, right? So I- So hold, I gotta warm up. I guess you remember even before he went to bed, I remember telling these boys about my irrational fears when it comes to peeing when I'm camping.

So, do you boys remember this? I remember this? It was like, because, because we were talking about horror movies, before, like something to do with horror movies. I can't remember, I was pretty fucking drunk. But anytime I pee in like the wilderness, like any time I pee in like the wilderness,

like camping or whatever, so you go up to like a bush or something and it's like a bush that extends as far as the eye can see. Yeah, anything can be fucking hiding in that bush. I've seen enough horror movies to know that there's a, that could be a fucking monster or fucking Jason on the other side waiting to chop me up. There could be anything.

So like, I have this a rash... I'm just like, what are you five years old? Yes, Joey. I'm five years old. You're like Dexter's chilling in the bush waiting for you? I could be, you know, so, so like, every since I was a kid,

every time I would go up to pee by myself, like I'd hear the boys just like bantering in the background and I'd be about like, you know, 20, 30 meters away in the dark so they can't really see me, but they know I'm there. So I'm peeing in this bush and I have this, I always have this irrational fear that something is going to come out of this bush

and like attack, me or grab me or a creature's gonna like fucking chomp me up or something like that. Because that's what happens in every fucking horror movie. It's always like the guy taking the piss next to the lake side of the bush that he never expects that he's a bit drunk. That's when they die. That's when they always die.

Bro, you need to cut down on the horror movies. I think Sidney's making you watch one too now. So every time I go pee, I'm like eagle-eyed looking for like any fucking movement. Every, any like any fucking shake of the bush, I'm like ready to like leg it the other way. I don't even care of my dicks out at this point. I'm like, I'm like legging it, right? You should be thankful that it was so cold because if it wasn't that cold, I would have absolutely trolled you.

No, because because it was cold, right? So here I am, here I am keeping an eagle eye out of any sign of a possible monster that could come out of the bush, right? And then, but me being drunk, someone, like, one of you guys say something funny, start laughing. I look over and I'm just like, ha, you know,

the boys are just being boys. I look back over and I see something, someone's breath, just like, just like going towards me. Like a white cloud. Yeah, like a white cloud. I'm like, fuck, there's, there's a monster hiding in that bush. And then I soon realized literally half a second in that it's just my piss steaming. So I gave myself, my piss, my piss gave me like a mini.

You got scared from your pee. I did. You're an idiot. My piss gave me like a mini fucking heart attack. because I thought there was like a monster hiding in the bush. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh.

So, so yeah, that already shows how cold it was even before. Oh my God. Even before we started sleeping. So luckily, like, I'd held my piss for as long as I could until like I woke up. Yeah. And I remember waking up and I was just- You can't get back in that sleeping bed once you wake up.

No, no, it's not possible. I gave up. No. So I remember waking up and I tried to go back to sleep. And of course, this was the exact moment that Connor and Nabby decided to have a snoring contest. Yes, yes, you guys definitely did. It was, oh, like, I don't know why they chose this exact moment, right?

Because I remember waking up. Why do you think I got my own tent, dude? I remember like, you were like four feet away from me, Joey. I remember waking up, right? I remember waking up. And it was like dead silence. And I remember I had about, you had like, a good 10 minutes of dead silence, right? And I remember like, I remember like check my bladder, right?

To be like, do I need to pee? No, thank God, I don't need to pee, thank God. Like my bladder's empty enough for me to be able to go back to sleep. So I like, turn over, try and try and find a nice comfortable position. And then I just hear, I just hear Connor next to me going. And then I was just like, Connor, Connor,

don't, don't you fucking dare. And then he doesn't do anything more. And then Nabi just goes, and I'm just like, No, no, please no. I'm like, I get another five seconds of silence. Connor turns over. And I'm just like, for fuck's sake.

I'm trying to get the blood flowing as much as possible. I do remember that moment actually because that was around the time where I decided to wake up. And all I could hear was like, what sounded like two like really old motorboats trying to start on? It was like,

it was just like a feedback loop. They just kept feeding into each other. And I'm just like, I was like, are they angry? I don't normally snore, but when I have to sleep on my back, that's when I snore. Also, you guys were drinking as well, right? Yeah, they were drinking. But like, that wasn't the only dilemma

I had to go through because now, at this point, I had sobered up a lot more, at least a lot more that I could definitely, definitely feel the fucking cold, right? So I realized that being in a tent, you can warm up your body, but the air in the tent is still cold. Yeah, it is still cold. So I was trying to breathe through my nose, and I swear to God, every breath I took

was like freezing the moisture inside my nose, right? Are you saying you became a mouth breather? No, yeah, yeah. So like, while these guys- So by all tactics, be a mouth-breathing. While these guys are having a fucking storing contest, I'm here trying to successfully breathe through my nose without it hurting.

And after about five minutes, I'm just like, I gotta become mad. What is this fucking demon slay? I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, The master the breathing technique. I'm like, I've become, I'm going to become the thing I detested. I became a mouth breather. But even that like didn't help.

Like I began, I tried breathing through my mouth, but it was still too fucking cold. So I had to like take my, had to take my jacket off, right? And try to fashion this kind of pillow scarf kind of thing where my face was being covered. So that I had enough air. So like, so like it was like, it was like, it was like,

Dune or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, kind of. So I tried to, I tried to masquerade this fucking mask on me where I had enough, I had enough air to breathe, but it was also insulating the cold air. Yeah. That didn't work because then if anyone's tried to sleep with like the blanket over your head,

you soon realized that you can't fucking breathe. Yeah, you can't breathe. It gets very stuffy. Yeah, you're going to get very stuffy. You're probably going to die of like carbon dioxide poisoning. So basically I had to make the choice of trying to sleep, suffocating myself. or freezing my lungs.

And neither choice sounded like a good choice to me. So here I am for 30 minutes. Like I would put the cover over my head, try to breathe through it for a good like 30 minutes, doesn't work, take it off, find another position. Sounds like you're like one step away from like just breathing your own farts for a month. I mean that might have honestly been the best

honestly. Honestly, I would have taken any fucking solution that worked. But like eventually me trying to go to sleep, Connor eventually wakes up and he goes out. the tent. And so I try sleeping for another, another like half an hour to 45 minutes before I just give up and just try going out. And at that point, everyone's already out. Yeah. So I didn't know what these guys were doing. I thought,

I thought Connor had like gone for a walk or something. I thought, you know, I thought maybe they'd gone back to another tent. I had no idea what they're doing. Because I remember them talking outside, but when I went outside, nobody was there. So, so I remember, I remember like trying to to find where everyone was. And then for some reason, I just, I felt the car, or I heard the car engine, like, purring. Yeah.

And I'm just like, why is the car on? What's going on here? And keep in mind, I had contacts on before I slept, so I had to taken them off. So I couldn't see shit. So I was like trying to feel my way through. Everything was blurry for me. So I go towards the car and I see Connor just fucking sleeping on the driver's seat.

These motherfuckers had gone into the car, had gone into the car, turned the car, the engine on and just slept in the fucking car. Fuck the camping trip. They had gone back to civilization, right? Listen, listen, I, in my mind, I'm like, listen, I've slept. It's 6 a.m. It's technically morning, I've awoken.

Now I want to get warm. I'm going to the fucking car. Because at that point, I was like, what do we actually do? I don't know what to do. I was like, I can't sit on the toilet for hours. Like, we're not going to leave for a few more hours. And I was like, there's nowhere I can go to get warm. All right.

No one can accuse me of not camping. I slept in the tent until 6 a.m. I'm now going in the car to heat up. I joined him, obviously, to warm up a bit. Turn the engine on for a bit. And then it got hot enough. And then the sound was starting to come out, so we just turned it off.

Yeah. And then we just chilled in the cup. I slept for like four hours. I mean, I'm giving them shit. But the only reason I'm giving them shit was because I saw a kind of sleep in the car. I'm just like, you fucking genius. Big brain mode.

I'm like excitedly. I excitedly opened the car door being like, You fucking geniuses. And then I quickly see that all the fucking seats are taken. So I originally, I was like, come on, Joe. Let's go in the car. I'm gonna go to the car. And I didn't want all this wasted electricity

that I'm using. Because it is a massive waste of electricity. But at the time I was like, I'm gonna die. I'm gonna get in the car. It's minus four, fuck this. The other people were taking photos of Fuji. They were dying for their craft. And I salute them, but not me.

I had nothing to gain from that. So I was like, I'm gonna in the car, Joe, come on in. And then slowly, everyone started trying to get in the car because they were also freezing. And then I basically turned into like a sauna where like people were coming in and out

like just trying to warm up. Yeah, because like I opened the car door and every fucking seat was taken. And like it wasn't filmed because like, I'm glad it wasn't filmed because it would have quickly turned into like the saltiest moment of trash taste this year. Because I was like, fuck these guys.

Fuck these guys. Fuck them and I went for a walk trying to figure out how I'm gonna warm myself up. It was great like because the car was slightly on a hip hill as well. So when I reclined the chair, it was literally like a flat bed. Yeah. And this lanan of the aircon, which was blasting. It never really doing anything for the first like 10 minutes because the car wasn't moving. Yeah. So it was just like, what

we doing? Yeah. So I'm still like tired as fuck. I start walking around. I try taking some nice photos of Fuji, but at this point, I'm like fucking dying. I couldn't even give a shit. You could have got in, you know, we could have squeezed in. There was literally no space. It was every, every space was taken. We could have stacked. I found it. I found my way. I found my though. I found a way to warm myself up. So this is like me using like 100% of my brain, right? Because I'm an engineer and what do engineers do? We problem solve, right?

I did that too. Yeah, you did. I can't blame you not problem solving. Unfortunately, I couldn't go for the same solution because Nabi was like fast asleep so I couldn't be like, Nabi, give me the car keys. Get the fuck out. Get the fuck out, let's go into the car. Give me the other car.

So I walk over to take the piss, to take a piss in the toilet and I see the vending machine. and then like the fucking bulb just like lights above my head. I'm just like, guys, I figured this out. So I go back to my tent. I get my wallet, right?

I get my wallets and I just start putting coins in. I start buying coffee. Because Connor, huh? How many did you buy? I bought like six in the end. Oh my God. That sounds more inefficient than using the car. Probably, probably years,

but that was the only solution I could come up with, right? Why did you not just jump in the other car? We had two cars. It's canned coffee. by the way, not like in a- So, so to explain, we had a vending machine there and Japanese vending machines have this option where some of the drinks are warmed, right?

And that was the only source of heat I could find in like a five-mile radius at this point, right? So, so here I am, like, spending like a hundred yen for like a coffee, which to me are just like, I just like heat packs, right? And I start packing them into my coat, right? I, I, like, at this point, I like, I like, actually like, start rationing them.

So I start, so, so, I take about six coffees, fucking rush back to the tent, go back into my sleeping bag, I like throw two cans at my feet, because that's where my feet were the coldest. And the rest, I start, like, packing in my winter jackets. So I pack some in my, like, bottom pockets, some in, like, my side, my sleeve pockets,

some in my side pockets. Have the best fucking sleep of my life, man. It worked. It actually fucking works. I got, like, I got, like, some proper air circulation in this fucking sleeping bag, man. I felt so rough the next day. I slept like 10 hours as well.

I just felt awful. Yeah. Yeah, I think because there's something about eating like just meat as well that just makes me feel awful. Yeah, I get that. And a lot of beer. We didn't have the best diet the night before, so.

Yeah, when I eat just meat, like only meat, I feel like my body feels like beaten up. Like I need some like something else to help stomach the blow. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, more of the story is, you know.

Be more prepared. Be more prepared. Don't underestimate. the winter. I thought it would be fine. Who gives us shit about what Bear Grills says when you could just get warm coffee? That's the secret.

Just get in the car. Why did Bear Girls not go to the nearest vending machine? All you need is a con bini. Just go to a vending machine. Pack yourself some warm fucking coffee and just use that shit, warm yourself up. I don't know why Russians are complaining. Like, I've seen Siberian winters.

Just need a vending machine, isn't it? Sometimes their car engines freeze. Don't they leave the cars on sometimes because it freezes otherwise? Did you also watch that video of the dude who went to Siberia? Was it really? There was that video that went viral. It was on my recommended recently.

It's got like 30 million views in like six months or something of this dude who went to Yakutzt in Siberia, which is like the coldest part of the world. It's like minus 71 degrees or something. It's cold than Antarctica. It's cold than Antarctica. It's got a fact check that, Ashley. Yeah. But it's called Yakutzt, Y-A-K-U-T-S-K, I think.

It's not like that. Where's the coolest place on Earth? But it's in Siberia. And yeah, this dude does this like amazing mini documentary of him there and he's like, yeah, so here I've got some boiling water at 100 degrees and I'm gonna throw it out into the air and it'll instantly freeze.

And he just throws it and it instantly turns it to snow. Yeah. Because it's like minus 50 degrees. And it's like, so in normal circumstances, if it's anywhere below zero degrees, then school is canceled. But here in Yakut, as long as it doesn't hit minus 50, kids are going to school. I was like, what the fuck?

Yeah, it's insane. I remember seeing videos like that. Not just in Siberia, but I think like recently, somewhere in America had like a cold front where it was like, Texas. Was it Texas? Yeah, Texas. Yeah, where I saw videos of people doing the same thing,

where they would throw it out throughout the water. Don't quote me on this because I'm not sure if it was Texas. It was Texas. Are you sure? The cold front, yeah. Yeah, the cold front was there. Because all the electrical grid broke. Yeah, this guy, Discover with Senate.

32 million views six months ago. Oh, wow. And minus 71 degrees Celsius, minus 96 Fahrenheit. It's not the coldest, probably, it's not, but it's probably one of the coldest. It's up there. It's up there. Yeah, because I'm pretty sure that like Antarctica is like,

yeah. Oh yeah, like, yeah, like center of the Arctic Circle probably cold, but no one's living there, you know. Yeah. So I would see videos of people, you know, throwing boiling water out and you'd see it freeze and steam instantly. But my favorite thing was people who didn't realize that boiling water is still boiling water.

And if you chuck it on yourself, even if it's like negative, like negative 20 degrees weather outside, there's still gonna be some boiling water. Yeah, you're still gonna burn yourself. Yeah, you're still gonna fucking burn yourself. Huh? They were chucking it on themselves. Huh? They were chucking it. They were chucking it in the air.

Yeah. And the water, you know, because you know how gravity works, it would fall down on them. It's like, ah, fuck, fuck. Fuck. Let's just scold myself. Why not? So yeah, the more you know, boiling water is still boiling.

Cold things are cold. And, uh, camping in negative four degrees weather, with negative six. I'm sure there's gonna be like some like pro camping people watching this, just cringing to death hearing all the fails, but that's campaigned it, fucking everything up. Yeah, it's still fun.

It's part of the fun. Yeah, it's still fun. I'm sure there's gonna be people, some people watching me like, what, negative six, negative five, that's not cold. It's not good, it's not cold. Yeah, but that's how it always is in the incident. You can be like, oh, you, you woke up at 4 a.m.,

bro, I wake up at 1 a.m. every day, and I inject meth into my eyes. It's like, you don't know, you don't know what waking up. Week morning routine. It's like, shut the fuck up. Like just let people complain about what is relative to them for a moment, please. Yeah.

Look, all I'm saying is, you're like, Eurocamp lied to me. It made it, it, it portrayed, like, they went camping in the winter and they didn't need to go to the fucking car to warm themselves up. They were fucking comfy in a little coach. I want to, I want to see that Eurocamp episode.

Like, where's the Eurocamp episode where they become mouth breathers? I want, that's, that's, if they don't become mouth breathers, then I don't think it's accurate, honestly. Do they have clearly to find nose? No, they don't. They might be mouth breathers gone. They're probably obviously.

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to try Harries today. Back to the episode. Do you guys have any irrational fears? Because I don't know if I'm like the only one who has like... How irrational are talking like... I don't know. I don't know. What is your biggest fear, Joey? What is your biggest fear?

What is your biggest irrational fear? I have a great beer. I'm kidding. Sorry, sorry, sorry to bring up the camping. We'll go back to the restaurant fears. We'll go back to that. The beer definitely helped staying warm. I gotta admit.

Now that I've let it grown out. Yeah, yeah, my face was never cold. Yeah, but didn't like your snot like freeze. Yeah, so here, because I had a cold, because it was so cold. Yeah. My snot, like, obviously must have dribbled while sleeping. It like froze on the arch of my, underneath my nose.

Ow. And it was awful because I was like, what is this? And I liked it. And then just peeled off all my skin. And I was like, wow. Oh, yeah, the beard otherwise is great. Yeah, but I think this is the longest, I'll let it go. It's getting long.

Does it get any longer than that? It can do. Oh, really? I think it will keep going longer and longer. Oh, damn. I kind of want to see you with like the long- Yeah, part of me wants to try it, but I'm like, maybe I should just save that for when I'm bald.

Well, no, you gotta test it out now before you go. Yeah, that's what I think. To see if it works, right? But I'm not gonna lie, I don't know if there's, there's pretty a lot of bearded people watching this. It kind of is getting like somewhat itchier than the usual. Yeah, I feel that. Did you get this?

Do you get this bearded people? I don't know. No, I get it. They probably know solutions that are like how you maintain a beard perfectly, which I don't know. I sometimes, like, one time I grow it out to as long as it could,

and it's like, I don't think it'll ever get as long as yours, but like, it, I remember one time it got, I'm at the baby stages. Yeah. I still growing. Yeah. But like, I think that length that you have

is probably the longest it can go for me. Oh, really? Yeah. Because my Asian side forbids it. I will say, though, like doing this feels really nice. Like, just like, yeah. Have you gone to the point, though, where you're like, kind of,

turning in your bed and your beard brushes up against the pillow and it starts to get a bit itchy. Sometimes, yeah. Well, the worst thing is because we have to wear masks. Like, yeah. Oh, with the mask, it's the worst. It's the worst. It's like, I'm breathing in my own beard, like, jungle.

I can feel it. It's ticklish as well. Yeah, and it's like wet. Yeah. Yeah. How long are you gonna grow it? I'm probably gonna shave it tonight. Not all off, I'm just gonna cut it, sorry.

Yeah, yeah. Because I've got a video shoot tomorrow. Yeah. I'm gonna be sad to stop letting it grow. Maybe I'll try it again. You should try it. You should try it. You'll do it again some time.

How come you wanted to grow it out a bit longer? Then I just wanted to see if it looked better thicker. I think it does look a little better thicker than normal than I usually adds on the age. Yeah, everyone's gonna look older. I look older with a beard, though. It's true. It's what I'm saying, right?

I could probably lick my age if I grew a beard. Yeah. Most probably. I could see gone in 10 years with a goatee. I don't know why. I want to see that. Gone with a goatee, I could see it. I think I've ever seen you with like,

have you ever, like, grown out your, like, beard? like see where the absolute limit is before it stops growing or? No, because I don't like how I look with a beard a lot of the times. There's like this perfect gouty gone. There's like this perfect sweet spot and then it just kind of looks like pubs.

Like it goes from like nine o'clock shadow to like, wow, you really should trim that fucking bush, mate. Yeah. And so, so I always like trim it when it gets to that point. I don't know if I'm ever gonna grow out of the beard because Cindy's like,

yeah, it's a good idea. It's a good idea. And then I reached the pub stage. It's like, maybe strim- well, because it's in between phases that look back. It's after the pub phase where it starts to like get good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Commit, gone.

Maybe I will one day. Goatee gone. Everyone has the pub stage. You have to go beyond the pool stage. Bro, he wears turtle neck. He's literally made for goatee. Exactly. Goatee-goy, go-tie.

Maybe, maybe one day. Maybe when I reached like my midlife crisis and like, you know how like, you know how like- You know how like. You know, like, and when- I could do a go-tee-tie. I could just shave it all off and be like, Hello fellow goatee guys.

I did a goatee once when I was shaving and immediately I was like, oh God, I look, I look like I touched children. Like it was, it was- For the fuck, Joe. It was actually, like, I immediately, I was immediately like, nope, I'm not having this on my face any longer.

Cording out anyone with a goat. No, no, no, no. As opposed to like, shino-boo. It just doesn't work for me. Like, I realize I have one of those faces that just like, it's either beard or nothing. Like, like, goate, mustache. You're not helping yourself out.

You're like the, I've tried like the, what is it, the bootstrap, like beard and stuff like that with like the really thin beard. I don't like those. That doesn't work for me. Mustache doesn't work for me. Goatee doesn't work for me. It's either this or nothing.

And I just have one of those faces, I realized. You just have to try it out, right? I wish mustache is more in. I like, I wish I could rock a mustache. Mustache look kinda sick. I wish I had the face from a mustache. They do look sick. Just looks like you're about to invent something.

Yeah. Like, you look like you're about to pioneer It depends on what kind of mustache you have, right? See, like, you could work a mustache. I don't think so. I don't get, like, you know that thing that people have where you don't grow that much hair in the middle? You need it to grow more there.

I don't think you would suit a mustache. No, I don't think so either. You don't think so. I also think you'd look like you touched short and if you get the mustache. Come on, you're giving people with a mustache of bad red here, boys. No, no, no, no. Some people can rock it so hard,

and I'm so jealous of people who can do that. Like, with the same, like, Like if he had a mustache and those like fucking massive glasses, you know, you know what I mean? Like those fucking massive glasses, you would definitely look like, you're calling out some of our viewers. They're probably gone.

No, but I'm sure they don't look that bad. Cut that. Just saying it's just my face. My face just looks hideous. No, like for some people, it just works. And there's no explanation for it. Like I've seen... Here's a still image, Moudan.

Put a mustache on them. I've seen dudes with like just moustaches, just bootstraps, where it's like, fuck, you kill that shit. Put some glasses on him as well. Put some big glasses. Put some glasses and then, yeah, and then you'll see, it just doesn't work for some people.

I don't know, maybe it works. Maybe it's just like my imagination. I bet it looks amazing. If it looks amazing, you have to do. I think I'd look like a 90s porn star. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? It's a great thing. You know, the 2000s porn star is the Johnny Sin Zeros,

so yeah, yeah. Nineties, mustaches, you know, all that stuff. That's like 70s. 70s porn star. had like the thick, thick mustache. That was a look, that was a look. Bring it back, Garn. Maybe I will.

Who knows? I can't imagine you with a mustache. I can't imagine me with a mustache either. Gar would look like a detective if you did it. I wanna see Garn with a fucking mustache. I don't know, man. Can we all just rock up to trash taste one day? How long is it take you guys to grow out your beard?

How much commitment does it take? I don't know how long this is taking. This is taking a while. Yeah. My max, I think, is like maybe a month and a half, two months. And then it hits a point where it just won't grow any longer. That's a long fucking time. Yeah.

It takes a long fucking time. It takes a long time to grow a beer. It takes a long time. Months that I don't have. And it looks scruffy in the middle part. You know, when it's a full beard and I can trim it properly, yeah, it looks good. When I, when I reach my midlife crisis,

that's when I'll grow a beard, you know. You're saying, are you saying I reached my midlife crisis? I mean, maybe you have not. I mean, I don't know. I haven't got my health check results yet. Yeah, exactly, I might be a midlife. It could be a midlife period. It could be three quarters.

Because I feel like growing, growing like, going like a beard or like doing something crazy with your facial hair. It's like the men equivalent of, you know when girls want a big change in the life and they just like fucking cut their hair off or something. It's like the man equivalent. Like I broke up, I caught my hair.

Why is it gone? Why? We need to change the sigma. I broke up, I grow a beam. Like, you know, when- We need to change the sigma. Sigma. Stigma.

Stigma around. The sigma. We need to change the sigma. If you grow a beard at any point in your life, you're a sigma, you deserve it. Go, you go, bro. Get a beard. What if you can't grow a beard though?

That sucks to be you, bro. Some people just call. Yeah, shit, not a Sigma. But that doesn't mean you're having a midlife crisis if you grow a beard, gone, fuck you. You can grow facial hair if you want to, King. Go ahead, Sigma man. I grew up in my early 20s.

Yeah, midlife crisis. Midlife crisis, shit. In YouTube years, there is midlife crisis, you know? That is true. I believe. Yeah. But anyway, going back to rational fears. So, like, I remember, like, think, I was,

Have we said our fears on a podcast before, like, our main fears? No, no. No, we did an episode where we talked about our fears, right? We talked about stuff like, No, we talked about like, what was I scared off? Huh? Was I scared off? Like tight spaces.

I remember we talked about, we talked about like crawling into tight spaces. Yeah, yeah, because you were talking about the cave store. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, I remember, like, I just realized this, whereas I was taking another piss, where most of my irrational fears come from. And yeah, it is from horror movies, right? Yeah.

And it's specifically from horror movies that I would watch as a kid. And that's, I think that's why, like, I fucking detest horror movies because I remember, like, most of the horror movies I've watched in my life are between the age of, like, five to ten years old, right? And the reason for this is, like, every time I'd go to my cousin's house, he'd put on a horror movie, right? How'd it start is I'd go around to my cousin's house

and be like, can we go watch Dragon Ball Z? Can we watch Dragon Ball Z? And so, like, they'd put on Dragon Ball Z, and I'd be fucking into it, right? And then all the parents would go off and do their own thing, and, you know, they would ask, like, the older cousins to take care of the kids. And as soon as the adults left, they were like,

yo, you want to see a horror movie? You want to see someone get butchered? And I'm like, no, that scares me. It gives you nightmares. How old are you? How old you? How old? Fucking out.

It's a little too young. Yeah, so I remember, I think I was like seven or something. And I will, like, what, okay, so I'm gonna say the irrational fear. Okay. So every time I approach my car and it's just like,

in a car park. Could be empty, could be full, right? But I'm by myself and it's dark. First thing I have to do, check the back seat. Make sure no one's in it. Second thing I have to do, I have to, like, go under and check that there's nobody hiding underneath my car.

Do you check that every time? I, like, like, 90% of the time, I do it because I don't feel safe unless I do it, right? What's going to be under your car? Okay, here's the reason. A monster! No, no, here's the reason why, okay? So, when I was about, I can't remember,

between five and seven, I think I was like seven years old. I go to my cousin's house and of course it's like, God, it's a horror movie time again. I'm like, no, please, no. It's like, no, we're putting in the horror movie. And this time it's fucking urban legends. Right.

Is it good? It's, uh, I don't know if it's good. I was, it fucking scared the shit out of me as a kid. I'll tell you that. And I've never watched it since. Um, but, uh, you might get PTSD if you watch it now. Honestly, he's, or overcome your fear.

Or maybe, maybe. It's like a slasher horror movie. So it was like, it was like 90s. So that's when like, Slash of horror movies were in. Like the scream era. Yeah, the scream era. So, like, that's, that's kind of the horror movie era that I grew up with, and that's the kind of horror movies that traumatized me.

Yeah. And I remember, it was this guy, I can't remember the exact movie, the exact things that happened, but I remember it was surprise, surprise about urban legends. So you, you'd have these urban legends that were spread out. And sometimes these urban legends would come true. I can't remember what the exact urban legends were. But I remember this one scene, it was a guy who was basically dressed up as death and he had a scythe right right right and so I think part of the urban legend was that there would be this guy in the back of your car

while you were driving and this actually happened in the movie there was this person driving the car and how he died was someone emerged from the back with a fucking scythe and just fucking chopped him up to death right right and of course as a kid that fucking terrified me because I remember thinking if I ever get if I ever grow up and get get my driver's license at any point in the dark,

someone could come up from the back seat and fucking stab me in the neck or fucking slice my neck open. I kind of get that. And so, and so, and so, like, that is just ingrained into my fucking mind. But the second, the second death in that movie, or maybe it might be the third or the fourth, I can't remember.

So this, so this rumor gets sped around, right? That there's a guy in the backseat that you can, you know, there's a serial killer and this is how this person died. And so of course, the fourth guy, He thinks he's better than this. He goes towards his car. He's a bit scared.

But what does he do? He checks the backseat. Of course, he's like, I beat the system. I beat the system. It's so dumb. Out of nowhere, the guy is hiding underneath the car

and slices his ankles, right? And then he starts fucking quarreting away. And like, I remember this scene to this day. And that's why if I ever approach a car, I'm beating the system. First thing I'm doing, I'm checking underneath the car. Second thing I'm doing, I'm checking the backseat, right? But there is no, and like...

But they're one of deaths like... Big, big pot twist, passenger seat. Look, look, look, if there's a sequel, if there's like Urban Legends 2 where there's like, there's like someone adds on to this system, I'm fucked, right? But until then, I'm checking underneath every car I go to and every back seat if I'm by myself. Because I'm not getting my ankle slice off, I'll tell you that much.

How did this man, not a nitpick, but how do they use a site? in a car. Or was it like a SUV? Wait, mini-sife. Yeah, well, it must have been a big siph. You can't swing it in a car. The siths are not short tools. Maybe a sickle.

A sickle might have worked. I like how that's your first question and not how did he get into the car? Yeah, the first thing I was thinking when he said this, how did this man swing a sithe in a car? I can barely swing my arms in a car. That's a good question. I should have asked that as a kid, apart.

Maybe if he, you know, he kind of like put it forward and then brought it backwards. But how would you slice it underneath? I feel like if he's, you know, there's a lot of ways this could go wrong. You're being a little too, like, realistic here. Right, right, right. We first have to question, why is death in my car?

That's why I'm like, I was gonna be scared until the many plot holes that were available. I suddenly feel a lot safer. Irrational. Yeah, I feel like, oh, this is good. You know, I feel like as an adult, you can pick a part of the plot holes in a lot of horror movies and that's,

they stop being scary. That's true, yeah. As a kid, you're like, ah, no, no. He's bleeding! He's bleeding! What the fuck! I get that like backseat, like, because like, there's a lot of like Japanese horror films as well. That's like, that's like a very cliche moment.

The other one that scares me is, uh, and I hated this because my new place that I currently have has this, but in the bathroom, your mirror has a medicine cabinet. Oh! It's the thing of like, you're brushing your teeth and then, you know, the medicine cabinet's slightly open and then you close the medicine cabinet and then the monster is standing behind you, right? It's like, every now and then I have that thing where like, if I'm like in the dark and the medicine cabinet is open, before I close it, I just,

Do you look behind me? Yeah, sometimes. Do you like take a single breath before you close? You're just like, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm kind of like, I see it open, I'm like, okay, I'm good, guys, we get it, let's go. I get that every now.

I don't have like any rituals like that to like stop me from being scared of something like that. I don't know, I just, I feel like, I think to this day, there's some part about me where it's like, I'm still scared of the dark. Yeah, right? Because for whatever bullshit reason, right? Like, it's not because it's like,

I'm afraid of the guy behind me, you know, as I'm at the medicine cabin or whatever, but it's like, you know, in the back of your head, in the back of your fucked up imagination somewhere, you're like, this is a possibility. It's like when you're, I don't know, when you're sleeping and you're like, did I leave my door open?

Yeah, you know you didn't, but now you're gonna go check. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you're like, I thought I did, but I definitely didn't. But I have to check. Right, right, right. It's kind of like that,

where you make yourself think something is there, so now you have to check. Otherwise you can't stop thinking about it. I think I had stuff like that with like, yeah, there's, like it would be a monster on the other side of the bed if I turn around. But I won't know unless I turn around. I guess I won't turn around.

I have had thoughts like that. But I never actually like, even when I think, even when I think like, oh, I could just like die if there was like a guy standing in my hallway with a knife. I don't actually like think that he's gonna be there, but I check. But like I know that- Just in case.

But I know there's no way in hell that someone's there. Yeah. But you just have to confirm it. Because I also get that every now and again where it's like the most irrational thoughts where, you know, sometimes there's, you know, you close the door and you're like, maybe there's a guy on the other side.

Maybe there's someone in my house right now. Yeah, I don't know. And especially like, especially in the nighttime and you like fucking, you fucking hear something in the middle of the night in like your living room or something. And you're like, I know there's nothing in my house. But what if?

So what was that? What if? I'm like, I'm pretty sure there's no ghosts in my house. I don't, you know, I'm confident my belief of ghosts that this place isn't fucking haunted or whatever, even if there might be some haunted places. Well, I'm pretty sure this place isn't haunted. But then what the fuck was that noise?

Like it could be the wind. Definitely not the wind. No, definitely the wind. Definitely not the wind. You start second guessing yourself, you know? Exactly. And I feel that like, especially recently with like some horror games I play, like I feel that just like resurfaced.

Yeah, it's not until you recently consume content like that that you start to realize, oh yeah, I think I'm still afraid of this shit. Like, I remember after I played PT for the first time, like that made me so, like, I was like, hallways, lights on, everywhere I go. Like, I'm not, I'm not turning this shit off, fuck that. It's like, it's so irrational.

It's like, of course, fucking, she's not gonna be standing there at the end of the hallway. Do you get the irrational fear that someone who's close to you is like, not okay? And then you just text him, like, you okay? I get that, I get that. Yeah, yeah, you're like, I had this weird dream, just checking in that you're all right.

It's like you haven't texted me in a while, but we're good, you good? So sometimes I'm just like, sometimes you're going to like a night out or like hang out with someone and you're just like, they didn't, they said like 10 words less than what they usually said. Maybe there's something going on.

They were blinking a lot more than usual. They were signaling something. Yeah, I don't say it. Moss code maybe. Oh my God. No, but like, yeah, like I think part of the reason why I have so many lights on my house is because of irrational fears like this.

Like my mom would fucking bollock me as a kid because every time my mom and dad would go out, they'd come home to a house full of lights. And they were like, go on, stop wasting electricity! And for the longest time, I think they just thought I would forget to turn off the lights and I never just told them, no, I'm just actually scared.

What if there's like darkness and what if there's something hiding in that darkness, mom? You don't know. I'm in this house by myself. Isn't that a squid game? They died in the dark. Exactly. You never know. Exactly.

What if Squid Game just happens in your room while you're sleeping? You have to start defending yourself. Prize Squid game. It's like when the lights went off. When the fire went out. And everyone was like, reaching for the closest weapon.

I did come to the realization of course, not the realization, but like the appreciation of just lights. Oh my God, God. Especially camping, right? You really do appreciate. appreciate lights and fire. The appreciation of light.

Oh my God. My Jesus, God. You know, heat is pretty good, eh? Yeah. Light's pretty underrated. There's just some things you just... You know, clothes is actually pretty useful. Honestly, they're pretty are.

Yeah, no shit they are, gone. Look, I'm just saying, okay, I've never appreciated a hot shower more than after we came back from that camping trip. That was true. I could just like turn on the hot water and immediately just warm myself up. Yeah. I'm just like, damn, man, this shower is hitting different. It is hitting different, man.

That was the best shower and sleep I had though, when we came back. It was so good. Yeah, I actually think that fixed my sleeping schedule because I've been getting up at like a reasonable time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was just I got back from that. Everything I knocked out of like 9 PM, dude.

Yeah, I was so done. So I was like, I'm not staying up. Oh, no, no. So yeah, anything else do you guys want to bring up or anything? No, just want to let you know that. No click bait in this. this episode. We did actually almost die twice, three times if you include, you know, the surprise attack from the bush.

Your God was this close to death. From a surprise, Jason. Almost died from, from getting scared by his own piss stream. I'm just like, I love you, cuz, but fuck you at the same time for literally like giving- You're an asshole cousin, dude. That's so cool. I love my cousin. Is it, was he a teenager? Huh? Was he a teenager? Uh, he's seven years older than me, so he's pretty bad. Yeah, that's pretty bad. He's the closest thing I have to, an older brother. And that's, Thinking back, that's a very older brother thing to do. That is a very older brother thing to do.

I love you guys. You are like an older brother to me, but also, fuck you for showing me that, all those fucking horror movies as a kid. Oh, it's so terrifying. I remember the one thing that's for some reason that sticks out my mind, my older brother teaching me, is like, you know what socks are for, right?

And I was like, no, what a socks for? He's like, to clean up the messes that you spill on the floor. And I'm like, oh. That makes a lot of sense. Like when you're holding a cup of tea and you spill it on the floor. You just step on.

Just step on. Just use your sock. And I was like, I was like, I was like, I don't know if that's the dumbest thing ever or if an actual life hack. And I was like, you know what? That's kind of big brain. It's kind of big. It's kind of big.

Don't just stop putting your... That's an awful piece of a class. No, it's not. It's a little bit, little spilling. If you have some thick socks, too. There is nothing worse than wet socks. What for like a brief moment? Your body heat is...

How much water, how much water are we talking about? Like a tiny bit of spillage on a cup of tea or something. or something. And then you rub it on the carpet to like warm it up and dry it off. If it's a spill that you can actually feel on your like on your foot on the sword of your I do for a brief moment.

I still do it to this day. But the, but hey, the floor's clean. It's like kicking ice under the fridge. What do you mean? When you spill ice, you kick it under the fridge. I mean, I don't do it anymore, but I used to do it, I can. You don't put it in the sink. If you drop the ice while you're like popping it,

you're popping it. Okay, well, it depends on how much ice comes out. Like two or three cubes, just kind of, Just kick it under there. Just damage the floor, you know? Did your brother teach you that as well? No, I did that, I learned that one. That's what you're gonna teach your kid

when you get on. I hope my kid never watches trash taste. Son, five minute life hack, kick the ice. This is a trash taste life hacks. This is like reverse life hacks of shit you shouldn't do. You think I'm gonna ruin family mart socks like that? No, exactly. You're gonna put them in the wash after.

No, that's a lot of luck. That's because they're white. If you're black, I only have black socks. Although, I mean, that's your life is right there, right? Yeah, just buy black socks, don't think. Is that mean you don't wear in Family Mart socks? No, I don't. I'm fine with not doing that.

I'm happy with my socks. I like having black socks. I don't have to think. But if Family Mart brought out a black sock variant. No, then you'd buy it. Okay, then. Family Mart, I hope you're listening. I mean, you do need some black socks.

Yeah. Joey. Joey? What? Looking at you, Joey. What? I have black socks. I don't know, you just never wear them.

I just never wear them. I swear to God, every picture that's been taken within like the past month, I see those fucking family marks socks poking out. I dead ass, no matter the outfit. I dead ass have about nine pairs of family mass socks and I just cycle through it every week. Their poor supplier of socks is like working overtime.

Dude, it's like, they're amazing. Poor factory workers. Please bring out a black fair. Working overtime to have to sustain Joey's sock demand. Well, I got a random, not a tangent, but just going back to like a random thing. Like, okay, I gotta ask you. All right.

So you hear something in the living room, right? Yeah. Maybe you're half asleep. How does Aki handle that? She's like, go to the living room. Does she asked you to check it? Yeah. She's like, uh, sweetie, can you go check it?

I'm like, woman, what the fuck? Why am I the one to go? You're the one that's curious, you go. Yeah, I hate it, right? Because I'm not scared until they ask me to check. And I fell like, I swear like, their fear gets like transferred over to me. Because I'm just, yeah, yeah, yeah,

because like, before that, Before that, I was just like, oh, I guess something knocked over in the living room, something. I guess it's just a piece of wind and then I hear Sydney, God, go on, go on, I hear something in the living room, go on, go on, go and I'm like, Sydney, it's probably nothing. Gunn, I need you to go check it now. I'm like, fuck me, okay.

Now that I'm going to check, now I'm like, and then Resident Evil music starts playing in my head. I was like, oh my God, there's a zombie in the living room. Yeah, and then like I have, I have to. If I'm going to check the living room, even if I know it's nothing, I have to find a possible weapon, just in case. Just in case, just in case, you know, and I have to like find something that I can smack

a possible animal or a person with, just in case. Animal. I don't know what the fuck it can be. It could be a fucking ghost. If it's an animal, I'm near certain you would hear a lot more noise. It would probably be breaking everything. Maybe they're sneaky, I don't know.

That's how I discovered the cockcress from last week. You ever like, did your houses have chimneys? No. You've slept in a house with a chimney? No. They make a lot of noise. Do they? Yeah, like unsettling noises.

Oh, no, I have, I have had, I did live in house with the chimney as a kid, and it was blocked up, but it still made like the, when it's open, fuck, the noises that those make are like fucking terrifying. It sounds like a wolf howling all the time. Literally like the stereotypical ghost noise.

Yeah. Yeah, it could be pretty scary. What if it's not the wind? What if it's just a bunch of ghosts? It could be, yeah. Let me in. It's cold. It's from all the ghosts, from all the ghants

that got killed in bushes. Yeah, probably. Hey man, I need the statistics of how many people have been killed while pissing next to a bushman. I just need to put my mind at ease. I'm gonna bet the most of the deaths are more electric fences and then peeing on them or something.

Yeah, probably something like that. Or an animal coming out or something, you know, like a bear coming out. That's what I'm worried about, Joey. I'm worried about a fucking animal coming out or something, you'll hear it. You'll hear it. If it's big enough to kill you, you will hear it.

No, no, no. It's not gonna be like, no. Okay, but how do I distinguish between an animal ruffling the bushes and just the wind? Cause like, all I hear, because the wind is very like, it's constant, right? It's like a, shh, but like an animal's like, you will hear like, and you'll see it violently moving.

Yeah. You'll see it. Even though you're there, you'll see it like on the top. I don't know, man, Jurassic Park has told me different. Jurassic Park ain't shit, come on. It's a great movie, but it's not gonna give any survival tips. What, you're gonna, you're gonna, you're gonna, I go out into the bush and think, oh shit, what if the velocirapturet-up comes out?

They've got G-rexes in Hokkaido? Yeah, could be. I'm used to England, man. We have nothing to be scared of in England. Whenever I'm in another country. Or you have a more chance for Japanese policemen randomly stopping you in the middle of a field asking you to be checked,

as opposed to it. I have an arrest for your Japanese policeman coming out of the bush. You have a more chance of a Japanese people than stopping you from peeing in a bush than you do from an animal or something killing you. I'd rather get arrested than violently murdered by an animal, that's all I'm saying.

You're not want to be caught with your dick down and a flash like sounding on you, you know. That is not what you want. That is true. And that's been our irrational fears on trash today today. You know who hasn't died from peeing in the bush? Yes.

Look at all these people. What's ahead, you don't know. Look at all these people that haven't almost died. I know. Look at all these people that haven't almost died. Maybe you have, I don't know, maybe something, maybe you've escaped death. Maybe you're from the backseat of the car.

Tell us your near-death experiences in the comments down below. Also, tell us your irrational fears. Do you check? the backseat of the car before going in? Do you check underneath the car? Gans trying to find someone, please, please, I can't be the only one, okay? I can't be the only one who has a weird ritual in my life

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