Trash Taste Podcast - WE ARE TRASH PARENTS | Trash Taste #129

Episode Date: December 9, 2022

👟 Check Out Vessi's Holiday Sale at vessi.com/TRASHTASTE 🕵️‍♂️ GET EXPRESSVPN: https://www.expressvpn.com/trashtaste 🪒 There’s truly never been a better time to try Harry’s. Go to https://www.harrys.com/TRASHTASTE to try Harry’s today. 👑 Download The Eminence in Shadow: Master of Garden at https://eismog.onelink.me/YDRC/62x5rekv 🗑️NEW TRASH TASTE MERCH: https://www.apari-shop.com/collections/trash-taste-podcast Follow Trash Taste: https://twitter.com/TrashTastePod https://www.reddit.com/r/TrashTaste/ To watch the podcast on YouTube: bit.ly/TrashTasteYouTube Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: bit.ly/TrashTastePodcast If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be amazing! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: bit.ly/TrashTastePodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Is this the segling? The stitching. No, this is not the segary. I'm just saying that you guys should just grab some right now. Oh, shit, yeah. You're right. Wait, can you get it? Well, this isn't an ad read.

This isn't an ad read. This is an organic advertisement that we have done because I like the merch so much. And I'm wearing it. Yeah, I can't wait to wear our merch. Ebroidery. You know, do you know why I'm glad we're doing a new merch drop? So Connor has more than one shirt you can finally wear.

I do need to wear more. I gotta wear more shirts. That's how it is. Yeah, because I don't know if you guys know, I guess we're, welcome to Trash Taste. This is, like, I was gonna like just jump right into it because I had something say, but yeah,

hello, like, hello, welcome to Trash Taste, I'm your host for today, God, and with me, all the boys, whatever, whatever. But so, is this one happens 120 episodes here? We just don't give a fuck, they're like, you know how it knows. It's begun. I thought we were gonna do like a fucking,

you know, a little banter for the intro, but then I was just like, you know, I have a like a segue way to jump on now that we're talking about this. Sure. Okay. So Connor has like, everyone thinks it's a meme, but Connor wore your like,

your previous Apari trash taste shirt every for every show, aside from one, right? Yeah. Yeah. How the fuck do you do that? How do you get away with that? How many shirts did you pack for? I had three of them, so I would just cycle three of them and just wash them.

Because you know, every single show had, Well, most of them had laundry. Yeah. So I just did my laundry, even if I had like two items, I would just throw it in. Was it wasteful of energy? Yeah, probably, but I kept up the meme. And that's honestly worth the idea.

Every time I looked over at you, it felt like ground talk day. Yeah. It felt like, I'm like, wait, so I still day one of the tour. I didn't do every show because I thought, no, I'm not gonna do that. And then the second show I didn't wear it.

And then after I was like, ah, fuck, I can't want it. Really? I didn't notice. Do you know what I found funny is that, you know, we had like our tour staff members with us and everything like that. And they didn't realize you had packed multiple shirts until like two weeks in. And I remember someone on the staff member

just awkwardly asking, when was the last time you washed that shirt? They just spoke on, I was like a filthy animal. They just never washed this shirt. They thought I was wearing the same shirt the entire tour. I was like, um, well, that would be gross.

And no, I had three and I just washed them a lot because they're very good quality and they could withstand wash it. Yeah, but my God, man, it just makes me want to just take you out on a day to Tokyo to just like dress you up. Well, you're like gonna take me out and put me down. Oh, why?

Just get rid of him, just get rid of him, dude. I like that, I need more clothes that are good. I just, it's tough. Can you let me coordinate you? Yeah, sure. I'm, I actually like. This sounds like a Joey channel video. Yeah. As someone who owns a clothing, right,

I want to take you out and give you some nice clothes. Okay, I feel like you need it. Yeah, here's a question. How many times do you guys buy new clothes and when do you guys make the decision to like bin like when do you make the decision to bin old clothes I'm not one to hold on to old clothes right I pretty much get rid of them the moment I feel like I'm realistically not wearing this anymore yeah goes in the trash yeah for my rule of thumb is if I don't wear it for at least a month or so yeah then that probably

means I'm not gonna wear it for the rest of the how wasteful of us yeah but but I donate all my clothes so oh okay I don't I'm the complete opposite. You wasteful fuck. No, no, no, no. As in I have an issue. I can imagine your wardrobe is fact. I am a clothes hoarder.

Okay, I am that guy who you open up the wardrobe, right? So I remember at my old place, my wardrobe was completely full, right? And so I moved into this new place, like last year, and it's great because I have a wardrobe, but I also have like a second storage room. Yeah, that also has like a clothing rail.

I'm like, great. I finally have more, for more clothes. And it's like, I'm like a year into living in this new place. I'm like, fuck, both wardrooms are four now. Bro, I don't even, I try and have my t-shirts and not even take up half like a small water. Actually, I have a fucking conversion to make.

Okay, so you see, I've, you see me wear this belt, right? Quite a lot of times, okay, yeah. It's a nice belt, right? Yeah. I've owned this since I was 17 years old. I am not joking. Not joking. This belt has lost. How has that lasted?

Well, it's lasted me. Well, let me calculate. I bought it when I was 17. Bro, my belt is a 15 year old belt. And it's still, it's still like, it still holds up. You know what? Which is why I've never thrown it away. You know what's fucked up?

I also have a belt I've had since I'm 17. Are you serious? I think this is because you guys have no, no discernible ass cheeks that are large. Because, bro, my belt's last a year tops before they're fucked. Really? It's bro, it's like, my belts are like Atlas, bro.

They're holding it up. And then like, it just can only last a year. I swear to God, I don't know if I'm buying shit belts. I thought this was the problem. He said, I'll buy some nice belts. So I started going up in the belt echelon. And I started getting nicer about it. So I got a belt that was like,

what I thought was expensive. It was like a hundred dollar belt. And I was like, that's fucking expensive for a fucking, but I guess if you're looking for it to last long time, it's not. Yeah, yeah. Dude, this shit lasted like six months and it's fucked. What are you doing to it?

I'm not, I don't think I'm doing it particularly tight, just tighter than how it would look my pants up without a belt, right? So I don't know what's going on. When my belt game is off, maybe I'm doing something wrong. Your belt game is off. Maybe you're just too fucking dummy thick on her. I think my ass cheeks are just too big. Like, I think this is the circumference is too much to handle for a regular belt.

Connor's ass, the destroyer of belts, man. It's the shearing force, right? because it's an angled force, it's out, you know, it's not meant to handle it. I also, you say you donate your clothes, bro. Bro, if I try to donate my clothes, it'd be like, what a fuck are all these sweat patches, bro? How do you, they'd be like, take this back.

I do the, because in Japan, right, they have a lot of, they have a thing called, well, they recycle the plastic. Yeah. Yes. Now when you think about that, you're like, oh, they must be reusing this plastic. No, no, no, recycling the plastic also contains burning. Yes. Yes. That also means recycling. Yeah. So maybe that's how my clothes are being

recycled. Just thrown into fire. Bro, the amount of odour into them, you put a flame to them. It was boom! Genuinely, I wear most of my shirts to the point where like, I don't, like, I'm pretty sure I couldn't even donate half of them. They're so fucked. A hundred percent my boxes, bro, the moment, I'm that kind of guy who's like, whole, I'm like, one hole. Copium, it's still good enough. It's still good enough. It's still good enough. And then it's like holding your boxes. Tiny hole, tiny hole, tiny hole. And then I'm like, it's still good.

She's fine, she's sturdy. And then literally like two weeks later, it's like, fuck and you're like, my literally my entire dick is out. My limit is like, can I pass my fist through it? I should probably throw it out. That's your limit. No.

I think a whole finger that you can fit through comfortably, it's gonna go. Oh no, I've had some, I mean, we talked about it in past podcast, I've said, but like, I've had boxes that I'd have like holes like this big and I'm just like, yeah, it's still good. I do take,

I actually find joy in throwing out clothes or getting rid of clothes. I feel like it's a new level in my life. See, I just find, I just like, I should throw away clothes, but I look at some clothes, I'm like, maybe I could still make this work. And I just, I find, I get you,

so it's, I have like a tierless system, right? Of just like, current clothes I'm wearing. Clothes that I maybe wanna, you know, maybe want to try again. And then clothes that I've, like, worn once and I'm like trying to look for like a nice occasion to wear this clothes. And that's like,

it just keeps fucking building up. And I'm like, what is, I don't know what the normal, like, level of when you decide to throw away your clothes. Because I'm gonna be honest,

for most of my life, the person who threw away my clothes was my mom. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that was because she was like, Gant, you've not worn these clothes for three fucking years.

I'm throwing it out for you. And the thing is, she would have to do it when I was away from home because she knew if she asked, I would like, fight her on it. Some sentiment of value to this random shirt I bought.

Do you hoard other stuff or is it just clothes? No, just clothes. Just clothes. Because here's the thing, I don't have like, do you guys buy new clothes regularly as well? No. Because I, I, like, okay, here's the weirdest thing, right? Half my wardrobe is like, a pari

who's just giving me stuff. Yeah, here's the way. That helps. I remember when I was in England and I was applying for a credit card or something like that, and they had to like give you, you had to give them like, a breakdown of your expenses

like every month, right? And so you have to tell them, you know, how much you spend on, like, approximation on how much spend on food, travel, et cetera. And one of the categories was clothes. And I remember thinking when I was applying for this credit card, when I was like 18 or something, it's like, why is clothes a monthly expense?

Is it normal to buy a like a new piece of clothing every month? Because for me, it's definitely not. So I was like, what is the normal schedule for buying new clothes for other people? Because for me, it's just- Other people who buy a lot of. of clothes. Yeah, I mean, like some people just, you know, buy a new thing of clothes every week if they want to.

And they're just like, yeah, I'll probably eventually wear it one of these days. And then they become hoarders like you. So I remember when I was a kid, you know, like, what was it, The Learning Channel, TLC? Yeah. But like obviously this is, that type of reality TV show has been around for a while.

Yeah. And the UK had this kind of stuff years ago as well. Wait, do you mean PBS? No, no, no, the Learning Channel, which is the, Not very much not about learning. It's literally about like the my strange addiction. Oh yeah, yeah.

That's the learning channel. That's the learning channel? Yeah. TLC. That's what it stands for. The learning channel. Are you serious? I thought it stood for tender loving care. I don't know why.

No, no, I don't know about. Can we fact check this? I'm pretty sure it's the learning channel. Are you serious? Yeah, so that's. How is my strange addiction learning? About anything. All those shitty reality, like,

Nancy fiance is on the learning channel. Get fucked. What is there to learn about that? I'm pretty sure. Perhaps you shouldn't wife someone after 90 days. That's a lesson one. It's an education on what not to do with your life. I gotta make sure I'm right.

I'm pretty sure that's what it is. It's actually both. Oh, it's tender loving care and the learning channel? Okay, well, I mean, TLC, pick one. So the point being is that I just didn't remember when I was like 15, this very vague memory of one of these types of shows being on where it was like, my strange addiction kind of vibe,

but like, I don't know if it's real. My clothes. So there's one guy, he was like, like the most British Northern man ever. He's like, man, I just, I just have to, I have to throw away my boxes after I've worn them. I just can't wear, re-wear a pair of boxes. I just refuse.

Like one-time use. One-time use. So they would just film shots of him going into his car and just opening up new pairs of boxes. Oh yeah, it's good to have a fresh batch. Can't wait to wear. It's just like, what is this? What the fuck is this?

He's the reason why there's a, oh, there's a hole in the ozone layer. Because the amount of clothes, he must be like throwing away and burning it shit. Oh my fucking God. We fixed the ozone layer. Yeah, we fixed it. We had that, that was an easy fix.

Everything else is not being good. That was what, like a rare earth-earth W that we did. But here's a thing. Here's a thing, here's a thing, right? Is that I remember his all on the channel, he was like, yeah, it's ruining my life. And my financials are terrible. Yeah, what are all this shit.

Because I'm spending. And he, of course, of course he didn't buy, like the family pack, Costco, the cheap. It was like, I need Calvin clients every single day. Did he also have a thousand third count as long? So he was buying, he was spending like 20 quid on a pair of boxes every single day.

And he had a jet like just the normal ass like salary. There was nothing crazy. And he was just like, it's just too dirty. He's sort of rewearing a pair of boxes is disgusting. But he's wearing the same t-shirt, pants, socks. Yeah, yeah. He's re-wearing them. Is he doing it with socks as well?

Yeah, yeah. He was re-wearing everything except for boxes. He just felt like it was. Dirty. I feel like that's some weird trauma. That's literally the meme of, please can you help me manage my expenses? Food, $200, rent, $800, boxes.

3,200 boxes. All these TV shows are like this. They'll be like, man, this family is having financial difficulties. We brought in a financial expert to sort it out. And I'll be like, all right, so yeah, rent, all right, yeah, water, all right, food. So we have $900 on a hot tub annual subscription. All right, sorry.

It's like, the financial expert has figured out what is going wrong. It's like, I, hold on, not gonna lie. Yeah. We did not need a financial expert. Yeah, I would have done the job. It's just like half the price. Just like, buy less boxes, no.

It's like, I've tried that. Every, every single UK financial thing, it was like, 90% of the time, it was like, stop ordering takeout food. It was literally it. It was like, wow, problem's solve. Wow, thanks, Dr. Kay. We have all our money fixed.

Wow, we're wealthy now. And it's like, what the fuck? What is this? I'm just convinced that like the majority of these like, you know, TLC based like families and stuff like that that you see on like my strange addiction or whatever, they're not real family. I'm pretty sure.

I'm just like they have to be scripted. What I want to know is, what I want to know is like with these reality TV shows where they take this struggling something, a struggling in business or a person struggling with issues, They fix the issue on the program. How many times do you reckon it just sticks? Like, well, they relapse off the day off. Yeah.

Luckily, we have an amazing example, and the only way that we can definitively track it is something like Kitchen Nightmares. Yeah. Where we can actually just see which restaurants are open still. That's true. Yeah, yeah. And most of them are not open still.

If you go through the Kitchen Nightmares restaurant list, it's so depressing. Put out on your phone, like Kitchen Nightmare restaurants that have closed. It's literally like entire seasons. all the restaurants have closed. Like it's like fucked. It's like okay well Gordon couldn't help that much.

It's almost as if maybe bad ownership was the problem all along that we can't really fix. Gordon comes in just screams in our restaurant for an hour and then he's like, fuck, problem solved, I guess. My job here is done. I have no doubt. I have no doubt some of those restaurants that were helped and were much better off for it.

But, man, obviously, ultimately, what the TV network wants, and what the restaurant wants are two very different things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe Gordon wants both, but I mean, ultimately, we're here to get the shots. How much contact time do they actually have with Gordon? Apparently not that much.

Is it just like two days or something? Yeah, so if that. I went on this rabbit hole because I was so fascinated about all of this. I wanted to know everything about how this work. Yeah. Apparently it would not be that much. It was literally he would come in, do the film segments, and then leave.

Yeah. Yeah, that sounds about right. Because he's like, I've remodeled the place to make it look more alive. And it's like, no, your production. You're your production. I'm like, what do you mean? Like I've come up with new recipes.

I'm like, Gordon, you're a three star Michelin chef. There ain't no fucking way. You came up with recipes where there's one fucking dingy ass restaurant, man. No, it's literally, it just also, which wouldn't make sense. Because I assume the filming said it would be so intense that it makes no sense that he would be hands on to that degree.

Maybe when he's there, if you told me that he actually cares about, I believe that. Like when he's there and he's filming the stuff, but there's just no way they've had the time that they need for it. Well, he has to care because that's his job. Yeah.

So it's like, that's kind of what he's getting paid to do. And the show's so scripted. Like it hits the same beat. So obviously there's this part, there's this part. And then we have the reconciliation. And then we have owner maybe admits that he's wrong or whatever. It's just like, all right, whatever.

So where's the part of the episode where it's planned? Yeah, is there like an episode of like Kitchen Nightmares where the owner just refuses to admit that they're wrong or something? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I see clips of it.

I need to watch more kitchen nightmares. So there was a very famous episode. Right. I don't know, do we even need to explain what kitchen nightmares? Everyone fucking knows this is, right? I think so. Gordon Ramsey fixes a struggling restaurant. Everyone has seen this.

The literal clips may have like 50 billion views on YouTube. Yeah, yeah. So there was one, it was the little baking company, right? What was it called again? Bacon company, Gordon, Nightmess, type it in. It was like, I think the year, when that episode aired or when it came out,

it was like the most Googled thing of that time. Right. This episode was so huge, because it was like an hour long one where they were just shouting and they never fixed anything. And everyone thought it was like fake, but after like having a lot of people go to the restaurant,

this was like full legit. Like these people were like insane. Right. And they just somehow these producers just stumbled upon this gold mine. Dude, I would love that job. Are you just finding restaurants that are fucked and going to like,

just find these crazy owners. That sounds like such a fun experience. I wanna know like what is the process of finding these restaurants, right? Yeah, I wish. I wonder, do they apply for the show or do they like kind of, I'm guessing people do apply for the show

and they have some kind of system. There was an application. Yeah, okay, okay, okay. I remember because sometimes they mention it in the show they applied or this person, because a lot of the times think initially they weren't exactly told what the TV show was. Yeah.

And they're just pitching like, Do you want your restaurants be helped on camera with Gordon Ramsey? Yes. And it's like, this is the shittest kitchen all of North Hampshire or whatever. It's like, all right, so I'm sorry for that.

No one would wanna eat here. I'm sure there's a bunch of restaurants as well that are just like so much on the damebrink that they're like last harassed just be like, well Gordon Ramsey came here before it shut down two days later, you know? So we got out 50 minutes of pain. Steve runs the worst Italian restaurant

in all of Connecticut. He's an asshole. He's gonna fix it. I think the best, like, promotion they got for the restaurant is not like Gordon Ramsey coming in and fixing the fucking recipes and changing a few tables of some shit is being on fucking kitchen nightmares, right?

Of course. Okay. My favorite entire segment of kitchen nightmares is when they're like, they, obviously the restaurant is closed and they don't tell you this, but they don't also try and hide it. It's really weird.

So there's always that segment where Gordon goes to the restaurant and he wants to see how the restaurant functions. And obviously it always goes wrong. Of course. It's a disaster. And the restaurant is filled with customers, right? Yeah.

But they're like customers that has been invited because they know they're filming, right? Because you can't just go in a restaurant, have a bunch of cameras and get everyone to sign the waivers. Yeah, yeah. They fill them with this thing, but they don't actually like tell you the audience

that they kind of brought all these people. Yeah. But then suddenly all the customers start being picky about everything. And you're like, hold on a second. I feel like, I feel like they're trying to make this a disaster. Like everything has been good,

and everything goes wrong. Everyone always ends up fighting. Someone storms out. It's like, yeah. There is no way this is a normal night of dining. Like, and no way are these restaurants full on a normal night of dining? No, of course not.

Yeah. You just remind me of like this fucking weird, uncanny valley effect that I've had with like some reality TV shows recently. Have you watched like Britain's Got Talent like recently? Yeah, it's awful. Yeah. So there's one thing that they've added, like, in more recent seasons, I don't know when they implemented this,

but I remember watching Britain's Got Talent by fucking 2006, like all the way back in university in like the early seasons. And it was like, you know, they had the same kind of formula, but recently they've been like adding these shots, like these what I would call like audience, audience vox pops, right? Where the talent comes on stage and then there'll be like a vox pop

of an like audience member commenting on the talent or something. Yes, I have seen this. And I'm like, this is so fucking, weird because there is no way you just like, you have good audio to just capture a random audience member. Someone, someone hears a plant. It's like, you know, you know when you see some of those like E3 trailers and they have like the fake gaming chatter

or some of the trailers, that's what it fucking feels like, you know? I think I've seen one where it was like a magician or something and he kind of had like a unique look to him. And it just randomly, as he's walking on stage, it just randomly cuts to the shot in the audience of these two girls who are like, he kind of fucking looks weird. And I'm like, we didn't, we didn't need that.

We really, that was an unnecessary reaction. Yeah, reality TV has been like dying, so they're just doing crazier and crazier shit, right? Yeah, it's just such a weird thing that they've added and it feel, to me, it feels, it makes it feel even more fake, right? Because, you know, especially now being in production, seeing, seeing how finicky audio is. There ain't no way you can fucking zoom in on just two random audience members

just to hope that someone says something, interesting about who's going on stage. Not to mention the one that the clip that I just mentioned, I remember, I was like, there's no way this is real because everyone is clapping in this huge room. And these two girls are whispering and it's perfect audio.

And I'm like, I don't see a mic on you. And you just happened to know to place the camera at that particular time. It's like, come on. Yeah, I just wanna know, do they just like get a round in person in cue and just be like, so I wanted you say something really quirky when the guy comes on stage, okay?

Just say something really quirky. Just comment it and know how you look. Just be mean, just be really, really mean. And then when they do the act, just be really surprised and say how great it was. Right? Oh, that was actually kind of surprising. Producers are something like the cruelest people on earth food. Some of the shit that they set up is so cruel.

Yeah. Yeah. Tormenting people for fun. Yeah, like, I mean, I've watched some videos recently just talking about like one of the most infamous Japanese live streams. Oh, I've seen this video. Yeah, I'm sure you guys have seen this video as well, because it got very,

recommended for like ages, but I like they literally trapped this poor guy, this poor Japanese guy, in a room, in a, like a random house. In the late 90s. And he basically had to win his freedom through raffle tickets or raffle prizes, basically. And they fucking literally started him bare naked in this room. And he, I think, lived in the room for like months and months and months and months. Nobu, is that it? Nobu. Nobu, that was it. That was his name. Yeah. But it was like the TV show still ongoing, not that segment, because it's a very famous comedy show. Yes, yeah. In Japan. Yes. And they have just segments that they've just changed over the years.

But I mean, it's really popular. Yeah, and I think like the part that like, the part that got me so fucking angry, right, was he was in this one apartment by himself for months, no social interaction, no, like, sometimes he couldn't even eat well because it all, everything he won and everything he lived on depended on raffle ticket. and raffle prizes, right?

And so after months and months and months I'm living in this place, he wins his freedom, right? And they're like, the producers are like, we're going to reward you. So he's been in there for months with no human contact and he literally can't even... And by raffle, there's like mail-in raffles.

Like in Japan, you can win a lot of stuff for your raffles by mailing in. Like, they'll be a con... They just gave him a stack of magazines. Yeah. They were like, enter everything. Yeah. And so he finally wins his freedom.

And then so they reward him with this nice trip career and he has a fun day at the park, you know, they've, they film him in like an amusement amusement park and stuff like that. And then they blindfold him for his final prize. Yeah. And then they take him to this mysterious place. And then they ask him to take the blindfold off and it's another room. And then the producer just says, strip your clothes right now. And as you just see the soul leave from his body and it's just, I'm like, you're watching. You're watching. this and you think, I'm literally watching torture right now.

It's like a snuff film. Yeah. It's literally a snuff film. Yeah. Japanese game shows have been notoriously not very chill. But people sign the waivers and they do it. People agree to this. And especially in Japan, I feel a lot of like comedians

that are up and coming or kind of not, maybe not selling as much or, you know, are open to doing like any kind of job at this point just to like stay relevant. But the ones who throw themselves into these situations, because I remember like there was another, I don't remember if it's a thing, the same show, but there was another show similar to that where like these two comedians were locked in two separate rooms and they couldn't get in contact with each other for an entire, I think it was like a week or two weeks. And

there was one door out of their room and it leads to an open paddock that has a bunch of farm animals. Right. And what they have to do is that they have to survive purely off of the breast milk of those animals that they catch for that day. For like two weeks.

And there's no, and the one and the one rule is like, And the one rule is you're not allowed to drink water. So like your food and your like drink and everything is purely based on A, how many animals you can cash and B, how much milk you can get out of charge. You know, someone to get that boy some milk to another fucking level, man.

I just, I'm just imagining this and I'm like, God, the horrendous shits that they must have just had. Oh God. You're just drinking milk for two weeks straight. Yeah. It's just horrible for your health. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I, you know, I obviously base question

of how real is it? Obviously, if you're taking it at face value, it seems fucking awful. Yeah. I'm sure there was some behind the scene stuff involved where it wasn't as bad. I have to hope, right? I really hope so, yeah.

I mean, with the Nobu situation, I'm like, the whole situation played out a bit too well. Yeah. For the producers not to be like, I feel like the producers decided what to send him at what time, because just, as he was running out of food or something, he would get a like a small W, like a whole bag

of rice or something. And it would be like, it's like kind of like an entire story in a sense. Yeah, it was weird. So he was sending like a few hundred a day, right? Yeah. He was entering, he was spending like hours a day just like writing up. Yeah. Short a video about it. It's very interesting. Yeah. We can't really do it justice because we're remembering. It's fucked. Fun, fun conversation topic about Japan.

Go on. Yay. So I, um, I saw this article, uh, and it was a Japanese article about a Japanese thing. And I want to know your reaction and opinion on it. Yeah. So there was an article. And basically a guy, a kid, like a 15-year-old kid, had stolen like a plug extension cord, like a $5 plug extension cord from a store. And his parents found out, right?

So his parents called the police and called, like, made him apologize and give the thing back. and that was their way of like teaching him and punishing him, I guess. Yeah. Because he stole, so stealing's bad and you should get arrested for it. Sure.

Yeah. What I was surprised by was, what do you reckon the Japanese comments were? Like, what do you think the overall thoughts were on that move? Let me, on the parents calling the police? Yeah, what do you think, what do you think, how do you think the Japanese people reacted to that?

Okay, first of a question, how do you react to that? What do you, what do you think? What do you think when you hear that? It's a bit excessive. I mean. What do you think? You think it's good setting an example or do you think it's overkill?

So the pair is called the police, right? So that they found out their son had stolen this like plug extension. Yeah, the plug extension. Yeah. Not from like a friend's house or anything like from a store, right? Yeah. So he shoplifted. Yeah, yeah, shoplifted.

Now, not the same if your friend makes any better, but if I stole a PlayStation from show, you're like, nah, don't worry about it. I wouldn't call the cops. Yeah, yeah. He stole it from a store, right? Which feels way more like, oh, okay. Yeah.

So yeah, he stole it and then they called the police. And obviously he doesn't get like, it doesn't get jail time or anything because he's a kid, but you know. Just a slap on the wrist, right? And then gets scared and interrogated for a while. Yeah, what do you think? How do you feel about that?

Do you think it's a good move? I feel like calling the police is kind of like, going a bit nuclear. Yeah. I would get him to return, try to return the extension court to the store if you're doing anything else. And, you know, being completely honest

with the store members to be like, this happens. We're bringing it back, he's sorry. Yeah, you know, if you can, don't, you know, press in charges, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, we'll pay for the cord, whatever. You know, I feel like. And then I would rinse him when I get home. Yeah, oh, fuck, yeah.

It's just rinse him dry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But definitely like, at the very least, get him to apologize to the store members and stuff like that. That's right, I'm a capable of you, can't. I don't know what I would do. I feel like,

in my head, I see that as them. I don't know if this is like fair. I feel like you're just kind of making your parenting obligations and putting them on the police. Like you're doing the parenting, right? Cause you're like, like, oh, fucking, yeah, scare him. Make him feel bad about it. It's like, I don't know, couldn't,

if he's your kid, shouldn't you kind of install these beliefs and then, you know, punish him or give you, you know. I don't know, I feel like, it's not going that far, I think, because he needs to learn that. he has consequences. Oh, for sure. For wrong actions. I think the belts.

Okay. I think the belt is still. Yeah. I think police is a little bit extreme, but at the same time, you know, I feel like the parents are taking the boy to the police, you know, to show him that there are consequences, which I think is different from some examples I've seen

where parents are just like, you know, other people should just have this. You know, teachers need to teach better and discipline my child and stuff like that. you know, you know, because I think there's a big difference between you taking an active role into taking the person to see what the consequence of their action is versus wanting someone else

to completely take over for you. Yeah. Yeah. So what was the Japanese reaction then? From what I saw, they were like, oh my God, the parents are so brave. And a lot of people were in agreement and the general contends was that it was a really brave and really honorable thing that the parents did.

Brave? Yeah, it was brave. What's brave about it? I guess because they, I don't know, because most Japanese parents would just be like, or maybe just take it back. I don't know. To me it's like, it's weird,

because I think that, you know, I feel like the police have fucking better things to do. Well, I don't know about Japan, but generally right, because like, if they tell you're like, oh, finally, something to do. Like, I don't know, I feel like the police should do real stuff and not fucking parent kids.

I feel like this, this might work for Japan just because. Maybe only in Japan is right. Bro, did you imagine in the UK if you did this or America, though, they'd laugh at you. They'd be like, get the fuck out of here. Yeah, stop wasting our time. I gotta do with like actual shit happening.

Yeah. Parent, your goddamn kid. Yeah. Um, it's weird. I agree though with the whole thing of like, it is up to the parents. I believe it's, you should, I don't know if it's me. I think that this is, they're just shoving.

This is coming from three dudes who are not- We don't have kids. Yeah. I just think when I heard this, my initial reaction was like, oh wow, now it's wasting police time. Great. Yeah, no, I agree.

But, I also read, now this is on a Reddit, it wasn't an article, so I take it with a great insult. This was like a, I think it was a, a reaction to him. No, it was a foreign couple with, one of them was Japanese, one of them was foreign. Yeah, yeah.

And one of them was foreign, the foreign guy was posting on Reddit, being like, well, oh, the fuck, what is this? Yeah. So I think it was on, it was one of the Japan reddits because I just love keeping up with them seeing what, seeing what fun stuff's happened. Yeah.

And, um, this, his daughter that was like eight to 10 years old, had taken an eraser from a store. And the store owner called the police on the kid. And the police interrogated the kid for like three hours because they stole an eraser and then we're like taking,

apparently we're taking like, they were like, oh, don't worry there, we won't, we'll put it in the system, but we won't, we won't, we won't send it to HQ. They were like, what the fuck? You're trying to traumatize this? You're trying to teach you more

Let's try to teach him a lesson. I just wanna see the scene of like the kid coming out with the cuffs and the towel over the hands. I think it was like, so what happened, sorry, so what happened, the mother made the daughter take the eras, I remember now, mother made the daughter take the eraser back to the store.

I made them apologize, like you said, like go and apologize, give it back. And the store gonna call the fuck the cops. From that. Right, right. And it was like, whoa, in my mind, I read that, I was like, Jesus Christ. Imagine you're like, oh, dude, I'm sorry, I'm my daughter.

She's, you know, you know, here it is. You're like, fuck this shit, I'm calling the police. I'd be like, whoa, hold the fucking fire. That's an asshole move on the store on his part. I mean, lawfully, he's rightful to do so, but you know, morally, it's like 80- That's very fucking excessive, you know. Yeah, I just, again, what a fucking waste of police time.

It's like a 50 cent eraser and they're just like, yeah, cops. I mean, it's, I mean, the kid's gotta learn some way, right? The kid has to learn, but like. No, I'm talking about the store owner. The kid has to learn. and, you know, he's not your fucking kid, so you can call the fucking police, but, you know, you can be like,

this is your chance to be like a good, like a good Samaritan showing a good example of, you know, to the kid of if you admit to your wrongdoings, there, you know, they can be consequences, but there is also a chance for forgiveness as well. You know, I'm just like, that's, that's my take. That's my take on it. The kid has like not developed at all.

The kid doesn't know. The kid, yes, maybe the kid will steal and then he will learn that this is very bad. And my god, the kid will very much learn now you're not steal things. But that's too excessive. Yeah, but then I feel now the kid is gonna be scared to do anything.

But yeah, see, the guy on Reddit was basically asking, I think he was kind of asking like, hey, how can I like lodge, how can I lodge a complaint or get something done? Like it was because I don't, like, they were like, this is fucked up. Like, and I don't know the law is, but it seemed even for Japan

that that was not what you were supposed to do. Yeah, that's pretty much. That is way over bored. That was like a brum moment. They literally like, Apparently he said for three hours, they were questioning her, and they wanted to question her without the mother there.

But the mother was like, absolutely not. Yeah, that's fucked up. How do you, question? How do you, how do you- You found it? Yeah, I found it. They made a write a confession and also took her mug shot.

Yeah, they just the, so they made her write a confession and they took the mug shot of how old was the kid? Six. Six years old. Oh, fuck! Oh my. So, okay, can I, can I read it out?

Oh, my, my God. Because this is, just, shit was so insane. Could you imagine getting a mug shot done as six years old? I did not do this story justice. Okay, okay. So it finally happened. Had my first police experience

and not in the way I would have ever expected. My six-year-old daughter stole an eraser from a stationary store. Okay. When her mom found it around an hour later, she marched her back to apologize and the upstanding storekeeper, young dude early 30s called the cops.

And he said he's going to call her school. There's the store and he's going to call the school, offer to do it actually since he said the cops probably will. Cops show up and they continue the forced march to the police station. They interrogated her, made her write a confession and took her mugshot. They actually wanted to do it without the mother in the room and the mom said, fuck that.

They said that since she's under 14, they won't be sending her file to HQ. The whole ordeal took around three hours. Poor girl was crying and shaking the whole time. Her mom isn't doing much better. I know you'll be asking for the details here. I'm not Japanese. Her mom is. I wasn't with them.

She never stole anything before. No, I didn't punch the storekeeper. No, I didn't punch the car. My favorite color is blue. I like walks on the beach, great. So I think he was kind of asking like, it was really sounded sad as well. I was like, the kid is okay on the surface,

but the thing that- Oh, that kid is scoffal life. The kid is doing okay on the surface, but the first thing she did when she woke up the next morning was to wash her cups that were in the sink, which makes me thinks that she still feels guilty and she's in trouble, we're working on that.

It's like, what the fuck, man? This story is insane. Like, I don't know if it's true. It's Reddit, right? but I seldom believe he has reason to lie about it. On the other side, am I the assol? So I just interrogated this kid for three hours. Am I the asshole?

I was bored, I had nothing to do at work, so I thought, fuck it. But that dude, that's like- I was excited as my first interrogation. How, how do you, like, this is, it's just insane, sick, six years old. I can, it's sad to say, I can totally believe this being a real story here,

just because again, it's like, you know, we've talked about a lot. It's a lot. Japan thing ever. Yeah. Japanese police are, for the most part, bored as fuck, because there's barely any crime that happens here. They're often joked about being online.

I've seen this a lot about being just babysitters. Because they often don't do much and they kind of enforce very odd stuff like this. Yeah, exactly. Well, I'm gonna, like, I guarantee you, because like, I feel like this would, this could happen only in the place, like maybe like Japan or someone like that

because the store owner calling the police kind of like matches up because it's just like, I don't know what to do. It's not my, it's, you know, I'm just following protocol. The protocol is call the police, you're six years old. I do not see it. I just, I just see a stolen eraser. How do you see a six year old girl returning this less than a $1 a race and be like,

you fucking shit? Oh, this motherfucker, this motherfucker is cold, hard. Police, I have a criminal. He's a cold harder. Yeah, maybe he had like a weird, like, false sense of like justice being like, if I don't stop her now, she'll do it again and it'll just get bigger and bigger and bigger. So I have to stop her at the eraser. Where's like the Japanese better call Saul, like spin-off?

Like the mom calls Saul? Like, your honor. This child is six years old, your honor. I just like, what is the kid gonna, like, genuinely, what is the kid gonna take away from like being six years old and traumatized? I just don't understand. Well, she'll never go into a stationary store

for the rest of her life, probably. She'll be like, she won't even be able to say the word erase. It's like, can I borrow the... I just like, I just read that shit and I was like, what the fuck, dude? Yeah, that's what tough. Yeah. Jesus Christ.

10 levels above excessive. Yeah. Yeah. That's the story. Like I bet, I don't know if, yeah, maybe some Japanese people will be like, dude, the mom's so brave. The police is so brave.

For taking a risk and then just putting a safety in jeopardy by calling the police on a six-year-old guy. I just don't. I mean, I, yeah. Is it a race a really worth it? Like I just, I assume I don't know how, maybe that they've had to,

stuff robbed all the time, and this was like the final straw. I don't know, but like it just felt like, this is like not the battle. It's like on average 80 yen. Yeah. Like it's nothing, it's not even a dollar. It's like, it's just, they're coming back to say sorry.

You're leaving it at that. The kid that you don't call it, like the kid that you call the cops on, none of them, but like the person that you should be is the one who tries to get away and doesn't come back. Exactly. If somebody's coming back, there's, they clearly care.

Yeah, it's clearly a fucker. Yeah. Why would you call? And they clearly, for the most part, won't do it again. So it's just like, It's not like it was a Louis Vuitton bag, right? Oh, my five-year-old daughter stole the Declaration of Independence.

Sorry, it's like, no, it's like, this was, come on, man. I know that theft is like, looked down upon way, way, way more harshly in Japan than, say, Western countries. Just all crimes, really. It's all crimes, right? Not all crimes are equal in Japan.

Dude, there's so, okay, so I, obviously, there's a whole, whole thing of, if it's a fine, it's not a crime for the rich, right? Yeah, that's like the, and there are a lot of, stuff in Japan where it is find where you would get prison in time. I'm like our country. Oh, so like, um, um, like in America, right? Drink driving is like a misdemeanor, right? Oh, no, sorry, is a misdemeanor and Wisconsin. It's in Wisconsin. Wisconsin has a, it's very

leading on Joe, like in a, in the UK and Australia, I think, and yeah, America, you go to jail, even if you're over the limit. But Japan is like two limits. There's one where it's like a little, Oh, come on. Give them a more fine. You can't drive for a few months. I think there's two, can you look this up? There's one where you definitely like, full on punishment, lose your license.

But there's one if you're over a limit, you don't really get much for punishment, it's a fine. And in Japan, fines on considered criminal. No. The transactions. Yeah, so the way it works is that like you don't, if you pay the fine, you're done.

The transaction, yeah, the transaction is over. Yeah. It's pretty odd and there's a few other crimes. It kind of sounds like, legalized bribing in this sense, doesn't it? If you describe it like that. It's like, officer, officer, it might give you an extra thousand yen.

Will you rub it off the record? No, sir. It's not a fine, it's a legalized bribe, guys. Come on. I'm forced to bribe. It's a forced bribery. Oh my God. Oh, my God.

Yeah, so it's a three year, three years in prison. or a fine of 500,000 yen. That's for the, which limit is that? Is that the one, there's two limits, right? There's one of the, depending on which blood level your alcohol is. Hold on, did you say 500,000 yen or a three years in prison? Yeah, oh, I think it's and.

And three years in prison. Okay, I was about to say, if it's all, I don't know who's going to be like, guess I'll waste three years behind bars. Instead of paying five grand. Just say if you refuse to take the present as well. Okay. But it doesn't say specific.

There's definitely, like, laws. in Japan that aren't punished as severely as other countries, and there's stuff that is punished way harder than other countries. Yeah, like anything with children, for example? Oh, fuck. In Japan is just like, a little slap on the wrist. Everywhere else, it's like, you're gonna jail.

Yeah. Yeah, I don't know the specifics of it, but obviously even like, I mean, no, it's depressing, but it is very depressing. I think it's important to mention it. Yeah, of course. There's no dual custody laws in Japan. So if you divorce, it's often like, you know,

it's a bit, bit suss and also like domestic violence is pretty bad here and it's very underreported because a lot of the times they're just like, well, nothing we can do. Yeah, there's no evidence. Guys see he didn't do it. Yeah. And it kind of sucks.

I mean, obviously Western countries like that as well, but I know that certain punishment for things, and again, off the top of my head, I can't remember which ones, but I know there's certain crimes that should be punished way more. Yeah. Like, I mean, like sexual crimes aren't taken nearly as seriously

as in other countries. No, yeah. I mean, you know, it's pretty sad. It's fucked up, yeah. Well, going back to the kid though, I'm just like wondering, was there like ever a point in your life that you have like internalized as like a point where you're like, oh, this is bad,

I should not do this thing again, you know, when you were young or something. Cause like, you know, every parenting has like different like disciplining methods and I will never, ever forget my dad's disciplining method, okay? I'm about, I'm about to call you out dad because it's, because I might, take notes and I might, I might actually learn from you because I remember, you know, you know,

there's a lot of disciplining methods people have talked about when they were kids, you know, especially in Asian countries, you know, you get a little slap, you know, little spanking, you know, maybe you get shouted out or something. My dad has never raised his voice to me. When I did something wrong as a kid, he never raised his voice to me at all. Instead, I remember this one time, I rarely have seen my dad angry. I can't even remember what I did wrong, right? But I did something wrong that disappointed my dad a lot and made him angry. And I remember instead of shouting at me, instead of like giving me a smackin or whatever,

he would just lecture me and teach me and refuse to let me go anywhere, aside from listen to him, lecture me. And I swear to God, this lecture lasted around like two. I had two, three hours. And I remember I did this thing at like 11 p.m., right? I was tired and he was like, no, you're not allowed to go to sleep. You need to listen to me lecture you, right? And he would just lecture in the calmest of voices, right?

Not anger anything, he would just lecture me, but just refused to let me go anywhere until I'd, you know, fully listen to him. And for some reason, like, after that point, I was like, I am never angry. I would rather just get shouted at or fucking spanked for like five minutes and then it's done. My punishment is done. But now I know if I piss off dad, I'm wasting three hours on my fucking life.

You're listening to a one-man podcast for two hours. And I remember, it was like we were, it was, there was a point where I realized I had shared trauma, right? Because I remember this one time in Thailand. My dad is like the eldest sibling of this family, right? And he has like a pretty big family. And I was hanging out with one of my uncles. I was hanging out with one of my uncles.

And we were just talking. And I remember he was like one of the younger, younger brothers of his family. So I remember talking about, oh, you know, when when I was young, my dad would discipline me by lecturing me for hours. And then I remember my uncle just shut up for like two minutes. And you could just see like a wave of memory.

coming back. The PTSD. Yeah, the PTSD just comes back and he just like, yeah, he did the same to me as well. That's such a power. That's not miserable. It was miserable. But it fucking worked because I knew,

I knew afterwards that. That was the traumatic experience in my childhood. Not really traumatic, but that was like a core memory for me just to be like, okay, what I did was wrong. I'm not gonna do it again. I'm not gonna piss off dad or anything like that. Yeah, so good on you, dad. Just, I might take that.

I might fucking take that. I definitely feel like, yeah, because my parents were kind of the same. It's like very rarely they would actually like shout. Yeah. Because like I feel for a kid, and I don't know if it's just me, but like for a kid, there is nothing more, I guess, traumatizing

than not seeing an angry parent, but seeing a disappointed parent. You know what I mean? Oh, like an angry parent is like, It's like, okay, they're angry, they're scary, but it's usually for a short amount of time. You can't be angry for hours, right? You can't be shouting for hours,

but you can be disappointed for days. Sometimes weeks, depending on the parent. And like, that shit just lingers, right? Every hour that you're in the same house as them. And I feel like as a kid, that shit just hits you so much harder than seeing your parents actually be like pissed off or like mad about something, right?

So I feel it's like, yeah, I mean, that's a tactic my parents used. That shit worked on me as well. And I'm like, you know what? I might use that, man. You know, this scary part is the less they say. You know, if you sell to them, you done something and they just say like one or two words

and then go away, you're like, fuck. I'm gonna just drop my kids off at the police station. Very traumatized. I'll pick you up tomorrow. Just drop me off the police station this word, man. You just sit them down and you just like put in a number and you just show them, it's like, I'm about to call them.

Well, they had that, uh, I heard that America TV show, right, where they would send the kids to prison. Oh yeah! And they would get prisoners to intimidate them. Oh my God, that shit is so- They would just get prisoners to shout at them. It's so funny.

I don't know, is this really a good idea? I don't know. It's like a trauma machine in action. What is the line between traumatic experience and learning experience, right? You could argue that's a very, very thin line. Some people rule their empires on fear. My favorite thing about that show, though,

it clearly, like, people didn't, people clearly don't look at that show. and look at like, you know, kind of the depth, I guess, or like, like, like, and look, don't look at it as like the pillar of parenting because it's just moments where, you know, they'd be like 14 year old kid, it's like,

Brandon, you know, did drugs and, you know, stole an eraser from a stationary shop or whatever, right? And then there's, you know, huge fucking dude with like tats and neck tats and everything, just like shouting, being like, do you don't wanna disappoint your mom, right? And then it just cuts to be like, Jose killed three people.

And I'm like, oh! And a fourth, this kid doesn't learn, I'm just like, you're gonna have to say that again. You really have to think about that. I'm curious what the parents who are watching this think of the punishment that happened. Parents of trash taste, how do you, how do you elect your parents?

How do you parents? Let's your parents. Let's your kids. Let's have three dudes who don't have kids. Talk about parenting and how to do good parenting. That's always something. I don't know how to do good parenting, but I know what not to do.

I figured some stuff out. And I know that I'm not taking my kid to police station. You're calling the cops on my six year old? I feel like their memory is just not gonna be there. It's not, I brought, do you remember anything from being six years old? I would if I was taken to the police station.

That's, I'd remember that. Yeah, I mean, I don't know anything else. I mean, I remember certain points very, very early on. Like, I've told this story before, but I remember like the first time I lied, which was, I believe I was like five or six years old, because I was just, I remember, I remember the feeling of, My boy discovers lying.

Yeah, literally it was that, it was that. It was that. It was that. It was literally like. Yeah, that invention of lying moment. Yeah, it was literally, I was like five, six years old and I'm gonna be like, I'm gonna do a pro gamer move. I'm gonna do something devious.

I'm gonna do a devious move right now. What if I don't tell my mother the truth, and my mother, of course, immediately caught on wit and I remember that because I was like, oh, my first attempt at lying was a failure. So it was like, you fucking knew. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So by failing my first lie, it instilled in me

for the longest time that every life A failure. I'm bad a line. Yeah. Bro, being a kid, your lies fucking suck. Like, why can we not just think through shit for like two seconds? Okay, I'm having a trash taste moment. I'm having one of those things, right.

I can't remember if I've told this story or not. Okay. Right. Where I lied to my mom about my hair. No, I cut it. I don't think so. All right, so. You know, and you, this is so dumb. Why the fuck did I do this?

So you know when you sleep, right? And you wake up and you have bed hair. But when your hair's short, right? Sometimes the bed hair is like, persistent. Yeah. No matter how much water you put on that bitch, it won't go down.

Yeah. Yeah. It will just stay up. Yeah. Yeah. And so I had this and I was like, this is annoying the shit out of me. I looked dumb as fuck.

I must have been like eight. And so I had this idea. I was like, it's not going down. Yeah. I gotta just cut this shit. Like cut your bed hair. So I just had a piece of bed head that was like this. And it just wouldn't go down after I put a little water on it.

You'd stay up and I'm like, what the fuck? So I took a pair of scissors, went in the mirror. And then, Then fucking idiot. Yeah, I realized that was when I realized cutting hair, not the move. No. And I realized, I looked at the side. I was like, oh, oh, there's just a patch missing.

Because that's how hair works. And obviously, obviously my mom comes home. And she looks at it. She's like, what the fuck happened? What did you do? And I was like, um, um, um, I closed the door on my hair and it ripped it out. And she was like, what? And I was like, yeah, she was like, let's try it.

So we go to the door, we go to the door, we go to the door, it doesn't even fit in the frame. Like you couldn't even, even if you, by God had willed this, it couldn't happen based on how the door was like, fray, like this wasn't possible. And she was like, what actually, I was like, I cut it because I,

it was sticking up and I couldn't get it now. She's like, you're an idiot. Yeah. She just immediately marched me over to the barbarism and was like, just cut it all off. Cut it all, yeah. It looks fucking stupid, fix it. So I remember, it was super short then after,

because I fucked it up, it was a dumb idiot. Yeah, because like, as a kid, I was like, man, parents are so good at telling when you're lying, you know? Oh, yeah. I didn't realize, I was just a fucking dumb kid. No, I was bronze rank, while they were like master rank, dude. I was still, I was climbing still.

I didn't know how to lie yet. Yeah, you tried to go on for your altar, and they just have a counter, right? And he's like, this will get him. And it's like, oh, okay. It's like that LA noir moment where it's like, look at the subtle facial features to tell if someone is like.

Did you ever play a game boy late into the night? And then they would try and come in your room. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, of course, of course. Get really good at hiding it. Of course. I, my go to is like, I would put it in the pillow, but then obviously they learned.

They was like, oh fuck, you had to keep thinking the new ways where you could hide it. I put it in my pants. That's smart. They didn't check. Yeah. End up boy, you're like, what is that,

what is that square shape penis you have? I just shit myself. Joe, Joe, you're five years old. There's no what you're packing this badly, man. What the heck. Packed like a USB. Did you ever, did they ever like try and find it? Oh, yeah, of course.

See, they didn't initially, but then they weren't convinced that I wasn't sleeping. And they were like, he's hiding it somewhere. They would just maybe do like a fucking search in the middle of the night, like, stand up, we're gonna check the bed, check out of the mattress, check everything. I'm like, damn, they're good.

She's good. They figure this shit out. Did you ever have, like, an experience of, like, going to, like, one kid's house whose parenting was obviously, like, very different and at, like, different rules. And you just, like, your mind would be blown by the shit that they could get away with.

The kid who, like, just had everything. Yeah. The kid who just got all the stuff you wanted. That shit was like, going to his house, was like Disneyland. It was like, we get to play Grash Bandicoot and Spiro. No, if we, if we, that kid in my life was like, their parents, I guess their dad was just like super chill.

Yeah, like especially, I mean, not to say my parents like super strict or anything, but these parents are like a little bit too chill. Yeah. Right, to the point where, oh, this kid's gonna be like a problem child, right? Because I remember the first time I went sleepover, right? Again, this is around the time where like,

I'm fucking, you know, hiding from my parents with this game boy shit right in the middle of the night. And I remember like, dad, comes in, tucks us in, like, yeah, you guys, you guys good, you got water and everything. And then I fucking remember this moment where he, like, as he's closing the door, he turns around, he goes, don't play Game Boy

for too long. I'm just like, what? Your dad lets you play it? Like any amount of time? No, no, dude. I'm like, that's not fair. I love my mom, but she knows that. I complain about the dumbest shit growing up,

and she always just, she always hates it when I mentioned it on the podcast. It wasn't that bad. That's so bad. That's such a parent thing. We, we were, I don't know if you were, you had the same thing. We were not allowed branded products.

Like, it's just like, so if there was like, if there was toothpaste, you bet we're getting like Tesco's own. If it was, if it was crisps, you, no way in hell you haven't walkers. Yeah, it's Tesco's or Littles own. Everything was like the store brand version of everything because my mom believes,

she just cannot fathom, she's like, They're all the same. Okay, listen, there are some products. I'm with you on that, right? Some products are the same branded. But get the fuck out of here. If you think that little crisps taste as good as walkers, they flat out just don't.

Because I do this one time, I had these, they're like, they were like snack, snack of bites or some snack of ease or something. There was some shit name. The packaging looks god awful and they taste like ass. I opened up this bag and there was just a brick of like ash.

It was like coagulated crisps that had been burned to death. And it just came out of the bag, and it was black and it just got ash, like crisp ash all over my desk. And I was like, wouldn't happen with walkers, mom. Your mom is literally the epitome of we have walkers at home. Yeah.

I was literally just a bag of ash. I kept making, I was such a little shit kid. I was like, she was like, don't you want a bag of Chris? I want a bag of walkers. Yeah. Because the kids at school always had the branded snacks and they were so fired, dude. Yeah, of course.

So good. Of course. Yeah, because like for me, I was like, I had exactly the same thing, but with technology, right? It was like- Oh god, do you have your Uyah? You don't need an Xbox.

No, because I- A new iPhone, you got to Zoom. Because I remember the first phone I got because like, back when mobile phones started to like get introduced, right? The brick phones? Everyone had the fucking Nokia 3310. Yeah, right?

Right? And I was just like, damn. I wanted to get it, not to get a phone, but to play Snake. Yes. Do you remember Snake? Yes. Yes.

The coolest fucking game. You're like, this goes on forever. And I was just like so disappointed when I caught my first phone. And it was like an un-br- I can't even fucking remember the brand. It was like one of the cheapest fucking phones you could buy in like phones for you or some shit like that. And I was just, I remember they had like,

they had games on it, right? But they had this like, the, it was, it wasn't even snake, it was like a very, very cheap knockoff of snake. And it was pure copier, me playing this being like, Guys, I'm having fun. This is kind of like snake. It's cobra. It's cobra, guys.

It's cobra. My mom was very much against getting me, any of us, a mobile phone. Yeah. And she didn't for a very long time. And then she eventually caved when pretty much everyone else had one. And my mom was like, well, I guess I don't want

to get bullied, so fine. But I'm not buying, because back then you had to top up, right? It's well, you had to put like 10 pounds on it. Oh, yeah, yeah. You didn't text because texting was expensive. Yeah. And you had 140 character limit.

OG Twitter days, you'd to like fit everything in. And if you didn't, you were fucked. So yeah, I mean, it took a while, but I got it. And yeah, all I did was just send funny Bluetooth videos to each other. We'd have like the, what was that one video where it went down like the meadow? It was the shit car.

And then it would be like, the scream one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Shit like that. And for some reason that was the funnest shit ever. We're so fucking dumb. Now they get to do, now kids, bro, they can have everything.

I hope I was entertained by that dumb shit. I don't know. I remember, oh my God. He's unlocked a memory. So I remember like, it was my second ever phone I got. And like, you know, I was it? What was the phone? You remember what it was?

It was the murder roll, razor. Oh! The black one that has the button on the side and it like goes like that. Joey's parents wealthy. No, no, no. So I'm, so I'm the oldest, you know, sibling, right?

I have younger sibling, right? But like, you know how like it's very traditional where it's like, if you have an older sibling, right? You usually get their hand-me-downs for a lot of things, right? I didn't have an older sibling to get my hammy dance from. I got it from my dad. Oh, oh.

So as I had this, like, shitty fucking fire, I don't even remember the brand of it. My dad had the Motorola razor. And then when my dad was like, I'm gonna get myself a fucking Blackberry. You can have this fucking shitty Motorola. Dude, kids were at the Blackberry back in the day were like the coolest shit.

They were the coolest shit. I don't know why that was like the hype. But I remember I got the, I got the Motorola razor, right? And this was around the time where you could start to use like, you know, custom ringtones, all right? This is like the shit back in the day where it's like, you could like, you know, download ring. Or like, you know, if you figured out a way

to like kind of like, you know, pirate ringtones, right? And you put them onto your phone, you were like the cool kid at school. Yeah. And I remember I was like at home and I was just like surfing around and I'm like, man, all my friends around me have these cool fucking custom ringtones. It sounds so cool. I want one as well. So I start looking it up. Yeah. And I remember I found a site that was like, you can get, get this, the Super Mario Brothers theme

as a ringtone on your fucking motor roller raise. And I was like, just $10. This is it. And so I fill in some shit and I have it on my phone. I go to school the next day and I'm like, check this out. Show them, Rinto, they're like, yo, that's sick as fuck. A month passes, my dad storms into my room.

Oh, no. And he's like, son, why do you have a $2,000 phone bill? No! What? Oh, what the fuck? It turns out the thing that I clicked was a point pop-up ad and they were taking money from my fucking parents account for like three or four weeks. And like, I don't remember the exact amount it was, but it was like, it was four digits.

And my dad was so. Did you have to pay it? Yeah. No. And he was like, where the fuck did you find it? He canceled it and I'm like, I've never gotten. Like the 2000. Yeah.

And I never got the biggest. And I had the biggest beating of my life. Like, I was like half to. I think the bloodline would end there. If that was my kid, I'd be like, what the fuck? I don't know how we got resolved because obviously I was very young when it happened, but like by the time I realized it,

I was like, oh, the Super Mario Rural's ringtone is gone from my phone. You paid $2,000 for the Super Mario Brothers ringtone. It was like at least $1,000. Oh my God! Yeah, so, yeah, don't do that is the thing. But you were the cool kid in school, for about three weeks. I was the cool kid in school

that had the Super Mario Brothers ringtone. Man, I- I'm not gonna. And kids were like, yo, where the fuck did you get that? I'm not telling. Dude, you know what's fine? Fuck, I'm trying to have you been scammed? Yeah. You have? I was thinking about the same thing,

like, have I ever been scammed? Yeah, I'm trying to recall if I've been scant. Yeah, I don't think I've been scammed. Luckily, that was the only time I got scanned. Thank God, but yeah, that was scary. Oh, God. Yeah, because I remember the first time, like, I was also a kid, right?

I didn't, I didn't, even. The main target is kids, and elderly people. Yeah, pretty much. That's how you scare. Yeah, yeah. It's like I could not even perceive like the, like the even notion of being scammed. And I remember we, this is, oh my God,

this is like unlocking a memory right now. It's, I remember we got like some spam mail. I now realized it's spam mail. But at that time, I got this mail in, and I remember it was from, it was from Reader's Digest. I don't know what that is, but it was, I remember it was a company, the company was Reader's Digest,

and it was, it was, uh, a male that said, you have, uh, you have passed the next stage of this raffle that you've entered. And I'm like, what? We've entered a raffle. Yeah, yeah. And we're past the next stage. I'm like, what?

Mother, we are about to be rich. And it was just like, we, because like, they, they, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't even think that we didn't even enter a raffle. I thought of the question. Did we enter? No, no, no, I want, I want. Yeah, yeah.

So I saw like the prize money and I saw that we'd enter the next stage. The prize money was like thousands of thousands of dollars or something like that. But there were, this, this raffle, this competition was like several stages, right? And I remember the second stage, only had like a few more participants left.

And to get to the next stage, you had to buy one of their books that was like 25 pounds or something like that. And I was just, just like, mother, we've already had zero investment in this raffle. We have reached the next stage. May I procure your credit card for just a moment

while I buy this other book? Mother, you know what they say. You gotta spend money to make money. So, and so, I think my mom, like, I don't know, I think my mom just went with it, one, because I just seemed happy and two, just as a learning experience for me, right? So I buy this book, this fucking book,

get sent to my house. And of course. Oh, at least you got a book. Huh? Yeah, yeah, I got a book about from Reader's Digest about the fucking architecture of castles in Edinburgh or some shit like that, right? And then, so we get the book.

Then we get a note with it saying, congratulations, you've reached the next stage of, you've been successful in reaching the next stage in the raffle. To reach the next stage, you have to buy two books. And I'm like, oh my God, mother, we are too far in now to say no. Okay, there are only a few participants left.

And I think, I think she let me go for about two more stages. Oh, and I was just like, mom, we're too deep into this to like give up now, mom, please. How many books did you end up with? I saw like fucking five or seven books. Hey, at least you got seven books about lovely castles. Yeah. And then she, and then she was like, no, I just,

gone, you're a fucking idiot, okay? Do not do this again. Do not fall for this again. Okay? And I was just like, what do you mean they were lying, Mom? We're almost there with this close,

with this close to winning the grand prize. And that was my first scam that I ever fell for. Damn. Hey, at least you got seven books out of it. So one of the main reasons, you know, people that scams are so successful because people don't talk about it

when they have been scammed. There's a lot of shame around it. Yeah, people are too ashamed to admit they've been scammed. Oh, yeah, yeah. Which makes sense, right? Because if you've been scam, out of a significant amount of money

where it affects your life, then yeah, you know, you would feel stupid. But, you know, that's valid, but you know, you still should talk about it because the main reason they keep getting away with it because people don't know about it. Yeah. Dude, I, okay, there have been countless occasions

where between the ages of like 16 to even like now, I've like, there have been some emails that are so goddamn convincing and good and came at like, because obviously they send these emails out in mass, right? Yeah. And obviously, every now and then, they'll send you an email at the exact right time.

when you just, you're like, huh. You know, like for example, like an Amazon refund scam or something, like maybe you just hit the refund button and then a mass scam was set out just by happenstance, right? Yeah, yeah. And then you're like, huh, I guess I have to claim the money now. Yeah, that's weird. So you kind of fall for it, right?

But then obviously the more you look into it. Yeah, I've nearly fallen for scams like that a few times. I remember those one where it was like, same to do with, um, I just submitted my tax refund. Pretty easy to figure out, right? Yeah. Figure out April or whatever. Yeah.

in the UK. And I looked really convincing. The website was really legit, everything looked good. I typed in most of my information, hadn't hit send or anything, and I thought, hold on a second, let me go back and have a look more at this email in depth and saw that like, you know,

the easiest way to tell is sometimes the sender has a shit email. Yeah. But even then, like there was that one YouTube scam that went around for, do you remember the scam? Yeah, I remember the scam where it was like, it was from like Google, something at Google. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And if something's from Google.com, that's normally like the actual Google services. Yeah. And for some reason, YouTube allowed, Google and YouTube allowed this to happen where they were like, your ad sense is going to be terminated. And that's obviously like, wow, this is...

That's fucked up. This is something that is very pressing. And the way that they had worded it was something, something along the lines where it sounded believable because I fell into that category of whatever they were saying. And I said, what the fuck?

I nearly fell for that one too. I was like on the Google Messenger chat talking to this fucking weirdo trying to scan me. Yeah. Nearly fell for it, but didn't. Damn. It's hard, man. No matter how screwed on your head

is man, you can... They're always fine. They're just getting more and more clever. The right scam at the right time, you could fall for it. Like, you might think you're like ironclad and you'll never fall for anything. But yeah, just the right timing.

I'm like, bro, you'll be cool. Well, like YouTube has a fucking massive problem right now with, I don't know if you guys... The bots on like every reply for every fucking comment. It's so fucked. It's like, it's always the first reply. And it's always you. You know?

It's always you. It's always you. Yeah, it's always you, but usually it's like slightly misspelled. It's like, it's the anime moom, man. But it's the same profile picture. It's like, oh yeah, that's probably him, yeah. You know what's so funny that you mentioned, the Edinburgh Castle stuff?

So I did this video, right? So obviously there's been a bunch of sponsors, there's a few of them that are on YouTube a lot. You see them all the time, it's like, you can become a lord. Oh yeah, yeah. I'm not gonna name names, because I don't wanna get in trouble.

Yeah. And there's actually a ton of websites that do this. You know, they're like, hey, if you, if you buy our thing for 60 bucks, you get a one foot plot of land and you're now a lord. And so I was like, I was like, that doesn't sound right. My British sense is a too.

I'm like, that doesn't quite sound right. So I wanted to do this video where I was like, I actually want to become, like, get a title, right? So I started looking into it more about how, how one goes about it. And it was interesting because I, you know, TLDR, The way that the laws work in Scotland is that you can't transfer one square foot of a land to someone.

That's not, that's too small and you can't, even if they say they do, you don't actually own that land. It's a dedicated souvenir plot. So, you know, they're kind of saying, hey, yeah, you own this land in our heads, and in our database, but like legally, whoever bought that land still owns it because you can't transfer land like that.

It has to be transferred whole. Also, they change the laws on how titles work. So yeah, in Scotland, you can actually still get titles, but I believe it's only like baron. So you can become like, you can be like a baron of high water or something. It depends on the name of the place and stuff. You can actually get those titles because those are titles that have existed before.

And so they changed the rules where you can't, it used to be where the title would transfer with the ownership of the land. Right. But now that's not how it works. So you can't transfer the title with the land, you can only buy the title off of someone else. And then there's no guarantee that you can actually get it recognized,

even if you buy it off someone. It's really weird. I'm not 100% on all the legal legality of it. It seemed extremely complicated. And if you actually want to get one of these titles, there's a few ways you can do it. You can actually buy a title, but it would be somewhere in the range of 100 grand. Yeah, that sounds about right.

Which would make sense because they're very limited, right? And people want these, like rich motherfuckers want to be like, the Baron of Slogwater. Yeah. And there's another whole thing where you can actually get a title if you own a historical piece of land in Scotland. Yeah.

And then you have to submit it, but then also even if you own this land, you still need to be of, it was something along the lines of, you need to be of someone of notable stature and of good standing and merit. So you can't just be some random dude bioplo. to land and submit it.

You need to be verified on Twitter. You need to be verified and have a Twitter blue 8. So this whole system is like extremely complex. And they don't even, I'm pretty sure, from my knowledge, they don't even give out Lord titles anymore. That's not like a, the only way to get a Lord title. It's to be born into it, right? So there's very few, there's less and less.

So I think from my understanding, and again, I didn't look too much into that part. But yeah, it's literally, I think, generational has to be gifted to you by the, Yeah, round. But they used to sell them back in 1920, which is actually when they used to trade hands the most, and then they stopped that.

So you can't do that anymore. Right. So pretty much the, yeah, there's pretty much no real, hey, you can definitely get one. It's very, very, very, again, I'm not an expert. This is like two hours of research. You pretty much cannot get one. I'm just gonna say like that.

You can get it very, very, very, very difficult. You can get it, but 99.9% of people cannot get it. Right. So, ultimately, I just thought about this thing, and I was like, damn, this thing suck. You pay like 80 bucks just to have somebody right, oh, Lord Gantt. You are a lord. Who's not true?

Who's authority? You are. To be fair, if you look at all the fine print and all these websites, they do say it. But the marketing for a lot of these stuff and the way they get like a lot of influences and the stuff to push it is they're not like that. They say, yeah, you get a one square pot.

No, you don't. You do not. You cannot go to the land registry and say, hey, I own this. one square foot plot of land in Scotland. Is that also similar to the services where it's like you can buy one square foot of the moon as well.

Yeah, that's bullshit too. No one's allowed to own. Yeah, that's like the moon in space counts as like international waters, right? Yeah, it kind of like, no one owns it right now. It's just like, I don't know, I just thought about, I'm like, how man, I don't get why people still promoting it.

When like obviously it wouldn't make sense. Obviously, you can't be a lord. Obviously, that's just not how it works. Well, we know this because we, I guess we grew up in like the UK, right? So it's just like, something sounds us because there aren't that many lords in the UK. Yeah, but yeah, yeah, and I guess also you could argue,

well, no, it's for the novelty, it's for the fun of it. And it's like, well, just spend five minutes and just make a stupid certificate, like, and just give it to someone. Because that whole thing is like, it's a great gift, give it to someone. It's like, well, I mean, I don't know about that. Like, is it really?

Yeah. You know, a lot of them, they maybe have some claims like, I'm not trying to call them out. I just think that I just don't get why this is a thing. I just don't understand how it's big. Yeah. Because you see quite a lot. It's every YouTuber promotes it.

And I'm like, this, what the fuck? This is garbage. Again, I'm not naming names, don't want to get in trouble. There's a lot of them. And some of them are like, oh, well, they wanna offset it, right? So criticism, they were like, well, we plot a tree. And it's like, okay, fine, maybe you do. And it's like, I don't, I don't know.

There's no way to verify. Yeah, I don't know if you do. And, you know, even then, you come into the question of like, oh, I don't know, how valid is that? Is that really helpful? Is that like, I could just go and plan a fucking tree. Yeah. I just let me do.

I can throw some fucking seeds. You ask the plant at yourself. Will they let you do it? Like pull them out, being like, okay, I own his lad. You can't defy me, by the way, I'm a lawyer. Let's not get into carbon offsetting. That's a whole bag of a can of worms that we're not even gonna get into,

because that's a whole other thing that is questionable at best. But I just, I just, for me, it's like every now and then some sponsors like this come around on YouTube where everyone has seemed to be promoting them and it's like, no stops to think about it? Does nobody just think like, what are we actually promoting here? Like, this is actually just got like crap? Like, yeah.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. They're not doing anything wrong. I'm just saying like, I'm like, I just don't get it. Yeah, to me, I'm like, what is this? No, I get it, I get it. Especially, it's hard, especially if it's like a new product that you just, because this is like a, something like this is a very weird product, right?

And sometimes, sometimes weird products, some of them can be legit, but some of them just don't make sense at all. It's, yeah, it's weird, it's a gray area. We, I don't fucking know. We try to like take on it. much sponsorships that- I'm not trying to get sued, by the way.

That's just my mom. I'm just saying, I think it's not very good. Yeah, I mean, that's why we don't promote them. I think, yeah, and I feel it's like, especially like the pressure is on for creators as well when they see other like maybe notable creators or like the sheer amount of creators. And they're like, well, if they're getting sponsored

by this many creators, must be legit. We're not above taking stuff that is backfired on us, right? We've taken stuff that we've maybe not liked in the past, right? I think every YouTube has. Every, every creator learns It's the hard way. Of course, yeah. You know, I just, it's not that I'm,

I would never give a single critic shit for promoting it, because I just think that's the game. I just, I'm just shocked at how widespread it is. Right. I'm like, this seems like such a niche thing that is so obviously not true. Like, I just don't understand. It blows my mind, I don't know. Yeah.

I'm not trying to call anyone out. I know any YouTubers have promoted them, bro, I don't give a fuck. It's part of the game. I'm just, you know. It's what is. Going back, going back to the YouTube scam thing, the YouTuber comments scam thing.

I just got an interesting email the other day. All right. So one of my fans saw that, saw that there was a scammer on my comment section, like, you know, had replied to every comment saying, you've won X or you have won a raffle or something like that. So he decides, what if we try to, what happens if I try to pursue this and see and see how deep the rabbit hole goes?

That's dangerous. Yeah. So I get this email just like detailing what like the messages he sent and the messages that he got back and everything like that. So there was this guy impersonating me on one of my comments section. It was kind of like a bot. And the bot just said, you have won a PS5. Please contact this. Yeah, you please contact this email for more details.

Right. And so he doesn't send me the entire conversation through it. He just, he sends me the highlights of just. Yeah, he sends me the highlights of just, so if they get to a stage where he's talking to this person on WhatsApp, right? Oh my God, that's like you know you're being scammed. If you're on WhatsApp, you're being scamming.

For frankly, I, my mom, I'm like, mom, are you scamming me? WhatsApp feels like you're being scamming. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this guy who's impersonating me, right? He doesn't even name himself Giguck. So it's my profile picture and everything, right? Yeah. But the name is the guy.

giguck. The one in the least. He took your email, I'm gonna let him get away with it. So it's not gigac. It's the gigac. The actual gig up. Holy shit.

Fuck. Yeah. I gotta take the seed up. I've already taken the enemy, man. I'm already on top of him. He's already on the ball. But like it gets,

it gets interesting when, you know, you get a person where he plays along for like a little bit and then he just kind of calls him out. Just being like, this seems like a scam. I'm feeling a bit nervous about this.

Now tell me if this sounds like me at all. You don't have to doubt the process. I have vowed to God never to cheat or let anyone down on this and I have keep this promise for so long without disobeying the Lord our God. It sounds like you. This is monk, can't speak.

Please tell me that's in all caps. It sounds like in these. to be in all caps. Okay, okay, carry on. And it's just like beginning to get agitated because it's an insult, tome, me, by suggesting this is a scam. And then he goes,

please pay to these methods as soon as possible. Bitcoin deposits. Oh my God. Cash app. Zelle. I don't even know what Zelle is. And it's just, And it's just saying, I'm doing this to encourage my fans out there to achieve their dreams and also encourage them.

With a PS5? If you don't me, then you can go. I can't force you to trust me. What I will stand for to achieve been unreal. Wait, could you repeat that? Could you repeat that last sentence? Okay. What I will stand to achieved been unreal.

Been unreal. God, I want this to be a copy pasta so bad. I want this to be a new copy poster. What I will stand to achieve being unreal. What the fuck does that mean? Are they sending pictures like family or something afterwards? What the fuck is this? They're sending pictures of like fans who have won this PS5 basically.

But I think it's just, it just looks like someone's eBay listing basically. So whoever, whoever went down. that rabbit hole, you are the giga chart for the day, man. Oh my God, I did, people who waste scammers time. Yeah, yeah. You're the true heroes. Just seeing scammers get enraged, just, I mean, makes my, makes me smile.

Yeah. Do you doubt me? Do you doubt me? Do you doubt me? Be it unreal. I swear to my heart, our Lord and Savior, God. Lord and Savior. This is not a scam.

Are you doubting the giga- The giga- How day? Yeah. Oh, my, was it taken on WhatsApp? I don't know, yeah, because, yeah, it's, it's weird because like, people will always find new, innovative ways to scam and everything like that.

But it's just like, and then there's this shit. And then there's this shit. Well, that's the thing, like, a lot of these scammers, like, we've talked about like Jim Browning before and how he exposed, like, scammers in India and stuff like that, but I'm just like, I don't know too much about it. Is there just like not enough laws

preventing this stuff in that country, or is it just- Enough enforcement. Enough enforcement? I think generally like the enforcement is lax and, you know, in other countries. Yeah. Some areas police can be, you know,

maybe they look the other way if you give them a little cheap payment or two. Right. I think a lot of places they struggle with, you know, because these places make so much money. Yeah. So it's hard to, you know, to get the government to keep taking them down.

And also they, to be fair, they do get taken down fairly often, but then they just move. Like it's really easy to just make this operation anywhere, right? Yeah. Just get an office space. with PCs, boom, you're set up. Yeah, yeah.

You probably make enough money to cover any of the relocating costs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's tough. I guess so, easy money, easy, well, like, how many times have you been, like, have you ever, like, talked to someone who's, like, phoned you on, like, a scam phone?

I don't know what they're called. Like, like, Robocall scammers? Or something like that. I mean, I used to do a lot of videos calling them. Oh, yeah, you did, didn't you? And they were just getting rage. But, like, they're really, so, dude, they're really good at knowing when you're not gonna bite,

so they, just block your number. Right, right, right. If they even have a feeling that you're not, like, participating, they just, so you, that's why you see all the people who call them up on Twitch and stuff

and who make content, they, dude, they really play the long game. They like, they are on, like, Kit Bogar, if you ever seen his stuff. He's on calls sometimes for like eight hours. Oh, fuck. On one call, just fucking with them. Like, leading them on the entire time.

Right. And then finally at the end, they get that big payoff. Yeah. Finally reveals he's been fucking with them. Yeah. And they lose it. And it's like hilarious, because you're just like, the dedication is unreal.

Right. But dude, I didn't have that. Mine were always at two minutes. Because they realized I was fucking with them. Right, yeah. Like right away, and they blocked my number. So I had to keep making new numbers constantly and then calling them back.

And then they were just hang up right away. Fucking out. Eight hours where? Who is this guy again? Kit Boger. Yeah, his stuff's really good. Okay. You've definitely maybe seen one of two of his videos

and he recommended. He's really funny, really good at it. He pretends to be a grandma with a voice change. Oh. He raised the sunglasses. I think I have seen, I've seen clips. It sounds pretty convincing. Like he's pretty good.

Yeah. So yeah, he does that for like all day on stream. Shit is unreal. It's Jesus Christ. It's insane. Yo, that's an easy eight hour stream, man. Yeah, honestly. It's kind of crazy.

Content is just making itself. It's awesome. I mean, anything that you can do to waste these dudes time and then, hey, you can also get paid off of it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, fuck yeah, man. I want the, uh, the amount of people getting paid to fuck over scammers to outweigh people being scammed. Yeah.

Yeah. We're so far away from. That would be a perfect society wouldn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. I mean like, yeah, it's, it sucks. I mean, hopefully they get better in forcing the laws over there.

Yeah. Fixing it, it sucks. But you know, the people who live there also hate these fuckers. Like they, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've seen so many people, local people just be like, these people do not represent us. Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly.

But in America it's really bad as well. I know every American friend I have, they're like, yeah, I got like four scam calls today. It's like, what? Yeah, yeah. What? Yeah. In Japan, you get zero.

In the UK, you maybe get, In the UK you get like, okay, the weirdest thing I find is like the scam calls where it's not even a purse on the other end. It's robot. Yeah, you just get an automated message. You just get an automated message, right? You have one, a PS5.

So, okay, here's the thing though, right? That obviously to any sane person or any normal person, you're like, this is fucking dumb. I'm obviously not gonna call this up. But in their mind, if somebody falls for that and they call back, this is your perfect candidate to scam. Because a fucking stupid ass, robot just told them that they're going to jail

and they're believing it. Right. So now this is like, perfect. This is the exact kind of person who will then give me his bank information. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's the problem is that we often think it's like, and that's where the shame comes into it, right? Is that it's so stupid in our mind that you could fall for this, that then these people feel so ashamed they don't want to say anything.

And they don't want to get help or have, you know, or admit to it. So, you know, there's that cycle where I think people need to be a bit more sympathetic towards people who get scammed, I think. Because I just feel like if it's going to improve in the conversation around it's gonna improve. Because nobody talks about it. Nobody talks that they, I nearly fell for a scam.

Yeah. No one wants to admit that they, well, nearly fell for something. So I feel like the dialogue needs to be a bit more open about it. Yeah. I mean, I can't remember the last time I fell for a scam, but I remember it was, it was a fishing email. Kind of, kind of very similar to you. And then I've realized it was, you know some moments

where you do something and it's like, instant, immediate, immediate regret. Like playing chess, you move the queen and you just immediately realize you've blundered as soon as you let it go. That happened to me as soon as I press the submit button to my password and emails. And luckily, because I submitted it,

because I realized it right away, I managed to get time to change everything, like right there and there. Because God forbid, having my username and password is something that is very, you know, as my job has gotten more and more on the internet, my username and password has gotten only more and more secure, you know? Yeah, of course.

As has gone on. Yeah. Man, I, imagine you spend your whole fucking life being smart. You have all these passwords that are rock solid. And then this fucking company just leaks all your information anyway. Passport number, full address. You're like, well, fuck, all right. Well, we're afraid.

Some asshole didn't want to pay for more security. Yeah. Changing identity, I guess. Yeah, because there's been a few cases where like full on, like, full passport, house address have been leaked. Yeah. What was that? Was it the insurance database in America,

company which one leaked like tens of millions of like passport numbers, house addresses, full on information. Yeah. Wow, you really couldn't have, really couldn't have been just a Cinnabon account or something? Had to be the one that really mattered? Come on, man.

Come on. Yeah. And it feels especially as well, like in Japan, as well, like that is just like the coal scammers especially. Like, have you heard of like stories about like the call scammers? Oh yeah. Yeah. Like the ones that like,

target old people and stuff. Yeah. They're fucking horrible. Cause like it's called Orde Odi-O-Saggi, or the me, me scam. And it's essentially how it works for the most part is like, you know, these like younger dudes, like, you know, probably around like our-

Oh, you definitely forgot this on trash taste. Yeah, yeah, we've talked about trash taste. But like, yeah, they call up these young guys, call, you know, up these older people. And they just go, oh, it's me, it's me. I'm in a bit of a situation right now. I need you to dump in some money. And it's unfortunate that these old people just think like,

oh, well, if they're coming to just say it's me. Yeah. And they sound young. That must be my grandson. Yeah. I'm like, okay, I'll dump in some money. And it got, and it became such a huge problem in like the late 90s and early 2000.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was like millions, millions of elderly people's money, just taken. I'm surprised that any of these banks will transfer anything, bro. This shit takes like a year to do here. That's how you know they're undedicated, man. Maybe that's why banks are so slow now, because they're like, how do we know you're not scamming? Yeah.

Is this a legitimate business? Is this a legitimate transaction you're making? Or did you scam this off an old person? We won't know. I'll never tell. I'll never tell. Damn. Yeah, it's tough.

Yeah. It's depressing. Yeah, it is depressing. Yeah, it is depressing. But hey, fuck scammers and if you spend your time wasting a scammers time, you are the real G, man. You are the real hero. You are the unsung heroes.

Yeah. One scammer time waste, one like for me. Since we're like, now back in just, And you know, it feels weird actually having like a weekly schedule, but being able to talk about things that we're not gonna be releasing like five months in the future. That's true. You know, it's only like we're only two weeks behind nowadays.

Yeah, we're talking about current events. I can talk about, I can clown on Twitter and it won't be like horrendously outdated when this comes out. Man, I had a trip to Kyushu with Chris and, man, people are so chilling Qushu. I feel like they were definitely way much. more chill than up north. You think? I feel like the vibes, people are just so friendly. Yeah, and South.

Miazaki, everyone was chatting. Every time I went to a store or anything, everyone was really chatty, really nice. It's just good vibes. Kishu's so fun. How are the tourists there? I didn't see any tourists in Kushoe. Oh, okay, okay.

Okay, so we went to get the, during this video, we had to go on the bullet train to get to this point. Yeah. And we, there was like, so didn't see any tourists in Kushu. Yeah, I saw like, like a few tourists, international tourists,

that were in, um, in like a very scenic place, Takachia Gorge or something, what is it? Takachiko? Takachio Gorge. Takachio Gorge. It's beautiful, beautiful Gorge. Yeah. I don't really know, it's a gorge. There's a lot of tourists there, but that was a very big tourist spot.

Yeah, yeah. That was in place I saw tourists. The only other time I saw a ton of tourists is like, I didn't, I keep forgetting this is a huge tourist spot. So we're on the bullet train. No tourists. No tourists. Next stop. No tourists.

Stopping Hiroshima. Dude. I've never seen so many white people get on our train and train. I've, I'm, I, as a, as somebody who's lived here, bro, I've never seen that many white people will get on a train at once. Like it was like they all,

all the white people came on single file the whole time for about like a good like two, three minutes, No Japanese people. I was like, holy shit. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. I guess now that I'm thinking about it,

you guys came at a time where it was right before the pandemic. Yeah, we came right. So you guys haven't experienced like the full- Normal Japan. I didn't realize how, yeah, how huge of a tourist destination in Hashma was. Yeah, I didn't.

I didn't know. I didn't know people wanna go and see the memorials and all the history behind that, but I didn't realize it was like, like I saw more people getting on that train that did in Tokyo. Which is like, I was like, whoa, this is crazy. I feel kind of bad now,

because like we've talked about on trash tastes so many times, like Japan, open up the borders, open up the borders, right? And then now that everything's bustling and everything's like busy again, I'm like, man, fuck all the tourists, man. They ain't the real ones. They don't know the struggle, man.

The frustration, I think that Ghana has is that it's annoying when, because you look like this, and you look like this, and you look like this. Everyone just assumes you're a tourist, which is fine, but sometimes you're talking Japanese and then they refuse to talk Japanese back to you. Yeah. We briefly touched in this last week.

I would like to say as a disclaimer, yes, that does make me a hypocrite. I don't care. You are the annoying. You are not. Because like I just realized, there's a few things, right? Some of my, like, some of the spots

I used to like like to go to like and have like a little bit of peace and quiet and stuff like that. Now it's just like overrun. Like some of my favorite restaurants. Like it's, it's, how dare they? How dare they? How dare tourists enjoy things in Japan?

It's the little things. You know, now when I want to go to some of my favorite restaurants before, I was like, like, if I wanted to book a restaurant, there was like zero chance it would ever be full or rejected. And how dare restaurants be like having a bustling business now and not cater to my exact needs of when I want to eat? What the fuck is up with that? How Japan, how dare Japan finally have a thriving economy?

Yeah, yeah, how dare they? I mean, obviously, very minute complaints. Overall, I'm pretty fucking hyped that it's about, it feels more alive. Japan feels so much more. Oh, absolutely. But we went to, we went to Golden Guy. Yeah.

And I've, golden guy, I love Golden Guy. I feel like it's got a certain vibe you can't really get anywhere else. So I think it's a cool vibe. I mean, I hadn't really gone much outside of pandemic. Yeah, now. Because most of the time it wasn't open. Yeah, now, I'd, so, no, I'd only really gone a lot during the later half of the pandemic.

because it was great because there wasn't many tourists and it was chill. And I'd been to Golden Guy before as a tourist and I forgot how tourist heavy Golden Guys. So Golden Guy, if you don't know what it is, it's basically this like, I don't know, it's got like a hundred, 200, 300, some insane amount of bars packed into a tiny alleyway system.

And it's like there is tens and tens of bars on like a 20 meter strip and they all hold maybe like four to six people max. Yeah, sometimes even less. Yeah. And we were, were there the other day and oh my god, the amount of times you got recognized,

it was so awkward, because golden guy's tiny, right? So it's like, imagine there's four seats in a bar and then like three, maybe like tourists or fans who recognize us, they try and come in and the owner's like, bro, what the fuck? There's only one seat, get out. And we're like, oh, no, no, we're being a nuisance because people are trying to come in and sit with us

and it's like, no, you can't come in, there's only one seat, stop, stop. It also doesn't help that because these bars are so small, a lot of them don't have doors. Yeah, people are. People can just kind of walk along and like look into places. And they're like taking pictures of us

from outside the bars and stuff. Which is fine. Like we don't really care, but like we're just like, oh, we don't wanna be a nuisance to like. I felt bad for the bar. The bartender, yeah. It's more like the bartender because we didn't wanna like be a nuisance

to the bar like the bartender. A lot of them are very quiet, chill vibe. But luckily though, the bar that we went to, the bartender was fun and looking at having a good time. He was like, hell, that's hilarious. What's that? I actually love going there a lot to speak Japanese and kind of,

try and improve my terrible Japanese. Yeah, fun for that, but I don't know how much, how easy that I'll be. Yeah, it's just, it's not so much bad as it's just a mentality shift, right? Because for the long time, Japan had just been the place where, you know, you can just, you didn't have to, like think about getting recognized or something,

you know, you didn't have to, like, that wasn't even like a thought in your mind. You're just like, oh, this is just normal. And now, especially going to like heavily touristy places, like Golden Guy or other places like that, you, like, you're, like, your mentality has to switch to be like, oh, I'm in anime convention mode kind of where,

you know, you kind of like, we're ready to take a picture. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're kind of like, maybe, maybe someone here would know me, maybe not, it doesn't matter, it doesn't, you know. I mean, I would still argue that it's still not as bad because for the most part, you know, Japanese people, if it's a full-arm Japanese person,

like they won't know who you are, right? Oh no, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so like, it's not like we're fucking getting swarmed every five or anything like that, but yeah, just like I said, just certain very touristy areas. Oh my God, I can. Yeah, Archiehabra.

I miss the days when I could go to Arkihabo and not get recognized. I haven't been to Archaeopause in Japan, so I wonder when it was late. I haven't been there either. Good luck. That should be interesting. You're probably gonna get recognized

at the station. I'm fine. I'm sure, I'm sorry. Again, I don't mind. It's just different. Like it's, it's, like I said, it's just mentality shift. But in general, I'm really happy that things

feel like they're slowly being more active. The city feels alive again. Yeah, it feels like stuff is slowly, you know, it's crazy to think that it took this long but like even bars are being a bit more, you know, being a bit more lively and it's kind of, it's cool to see.

Yeah. Just how like one announcement just kind of changed the game. Yeah, it's like I, I complained last week about, you know, taxi drivers, you know, refusing to speak Japanese to me. But I will say like taxi drivers also seem way more enthusiastic now. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Yeah, they've seen way more enthusiastic and way more like talkative and stuff like that. And yeah, I don't know, it seems, It seems like not just like the tourists has reinvigorated the city, but even like the locals, you go to the restaurants and you go to businesses again. And they seem, you know, they seem way more,

I guess, alive. There's been a real big struggle right now because they're short on taxi drivers now. Oh, really? They need more taxi drivers. They need more staff for hotels. Apparently flights are like fully booked. Oh yeah.

Into Japan, because people are just like, I'm going, I'm going. I waited three years for this shit, I'm going. Yeah. And like, you know, it's pretty crazy now. And but like, think about it in one sense that the biggest foreign tourist in Japan is China. Yeah. And China, they can't leave yet.

Yeah. Yeah. So it's gonna be. So we haven't actually experienced the, Brant. The full wave, bro, and that's, that's the game. This is just the first wave, you know. We haven't met the final boss. Yeah. But you know, this is phase one

of the boss battle guys. It's interesting though. I will know, I will say, not only a flight price is like tripled, even more in some cases, because they were like, they were pretty much like free. Hotel prices in Tokyo,

I've noticed I've gone up. For sure. Yeah, they've gone up quite a lot. I'm surprised by that. Like, way more than I'm used to. Now I have to like recalibrate how much I think hotels are in Tokyo because the demand is gone insane. Yeah.

But they still have quarantine hotels. Really? Yeah, there's a, I, because you can tell which hotels quarantine because one, it's an APA hotel. And two, you'll see it's like cordoned off at the front and there'll be a security card outside. And they still have them.

Right. And it's kind of like, oh, didn't realize we still needed quarantine hotels. I suppose we do. Apparently we do. Yeah, I don't know. Interesting. Yeah.

But I wonder why if the hotels are, want that. I wonder, the government must be paying an absurd amount of money. Oh, I'm sure. For these hotels to want them to keep being quarantine hotels. Yeah, yeah.

Definitely. Yeah, because like now that everything's busy and bustling again, it's kind of like, I've realized there are some places I don't want to go to as much anymore. Like I, like, Asaksa? Ahsakasa, yeah, I mean, I haven't been there,

but one place I haven't fucking going there. Yeah, yeah. One place I have been to is Shibuya. Oh yeah. And I, I had forgotten how busy it gets, right? Because it's like, because I remember, when I was a tourist visiting here, I was like, Shibia is such a cool fucking area,

you know, it's got so many bars and it's just busy and bustling. It's because you know there's better areas now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like, now I'm, as a local, it was still all right to go to when the country was closed because you had space and you had comfort.

But I remember this past like two weeks, I'd been to like Shibia three times and like after the first time I'm like, I fucking hate people. I think I hate people right now. I just like, yeah, no, I've noticed that. It's like I went to Shibia last week and it was like 2 PM on a Thursday.

And I remember like during the quarantine, it was like, you know, that's still be people, of course, because it's Tokyo. but you know, it's like pretty quiet, you know, considering that I also experienced Shibia before the pandemic as well. And now I went back and I'm like, I can't see the road.

Like I'm standing, oh, you get to fucking Shibbia crossing, yeah, you get to the crossing. And it's like 2 p.m. on a Thursday. There's like 400 people on this side of the road, another 400 on the other side. I'm like, where are you all from? Where were you guys during the pandemic? So combined with the, you know,

and it combined with the tourists, right? And then obviously you're saying Japanese people now are way more comfortable going out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's been going out. Yeah, dude, if you come to Tokyo as a tourist and there's more than like four of you, bro, you, it's so hard to not like to just turn up

to restaurants and stuff now, you have to book. Yeah. And it sucks because some of them, you have to call up in Japanese. Yeah, that sucks. So if you don't have that one friend who can do that for you, you're pretty much just limited to where you can go. It does suck if you don't have someone or know someone speaks Japanese

or are able to speak Japanese that you get very limited with options. in terms of, you don't realize you're limited, right? Yeah, I mean, I mean, yeah, actually, because I realized this, because when I was walking to the bar that I was meeting some people in in Shibia, I remember looking around, no, it wasn't Shibia, sorry,

it was, where did I go again? I think it was like near Shinjuku, right? So I was meeting a friend at a bar, and I remember walking, it was like very, very bustling, and I remember there was one, restaurants. There was one restaurant. You know, you normally see Japanese people lining up for a restaurant, right? And you have to like wait outside and stuff like that. So this one restaurant was like people were lining up for this one restaurant. But it wasn't Japanese people. It was all

foreigners. And I looked up and it was itchiran ramen. And I was like, no. No. No. I paines me every time I see that. I've never lined up for itchiran. I refused to. It is not line up worthy. I was like clearly not trash these viewers. You know, clearly, this is the one thing we've warned you guys against. And so Gantz strutted right past those people with confidence knowing fully well, none of them will turn around.

Recognize God. Itchran ramen is a very popular ramen chain in Japan. It's very popular with tourists. But you can get itchran outside of Japan as well. You can? What's the point? Okay, do that.

I like itchirone, all right? Is it the best ramen ever? No. Would I line up for it? Certainly. Hell no. I think it tastes good though. It's all right. It's all.

I like because you can make it spicy. That's about it. It's a five. It's fine. It's a five out of ten. It ain't a ten. Yeah, it's okay. I mean, to be fair, it is hard to find good ramen places

because as well, people on reviews for some reason Japan are super fucking brutal with ramen. They will, yeah, yeah, yeah. It is hard to find a ramen place above 4.2. Like I don't think I've seen one for a very long time. Well, it's also- Most of them are like 3.8. Yeah, but it's also because like, again,

like there's this kind of subculture in Japan of like, ramen elitists, as I like to call them. where they just like, their job or just hobbies to just like, anytime they have free, they go to a fucking new ramen place, they try it out and then they just tear that shit out, right? Yeah, yeah. And it's, of course, with ramen places,

you're not gonna find that one place that everyone unanimously likes. You know, obviously with ramen, some people like the shore you, some people like the missus, some like the saltball. And it's so hard to dictate, so it's like, just go in. Just like, don't even look at reviews,

in my opinion, with Ram, unless it's like a two. And then obviously don't go in there, but I have the, sort of opposite story to what you mentioned. We were in Okama station, which is kind of like, I'm sorry. Yeah, how do you even describe Okama?

It's a big transit hub for Shinkansen's. And a lot of trains stop there. And that's where we were there. We were like, well, let's get dinner. So we were looking around the station and we were gonna go out of the station. We saw those giant restaurant, massive, huge. Could probably fit like 100 people.

Yeah, pretty big, right? No one in it. No one. Everything else was like pretty full. Yeah. There was like nobody in this restaurant and we walked past this place twice and later on we walked past again

like two hours later and there's one elderly couple sitting in there eating. Right. So, and this thing looked pristine. If I didn't know what it was, I would have walked in there and gladly have sat down

and been like, this is probably a really nice place. Yeah. What do you think the food they served was? It's a Japanese dish. Japanese dish. What do you think is a Japanese dish that some, not even like some Japanese people want to eat?

And they had a, a whole giant-ass restaurant for it. Think about an obscure type of dish. Oh, is it obscure? Nato or something? No, I mean, I haven't seen it often. Yeah. It was intestinal hot pot. What's the, what's it called?

Motzunabe. Oh, okay. It was just like, I was like, Chris was like, no, we're absolutely not going in there. So yeah, it's just intestinal hot pot. I actually like, what's not. Would you, would you like,

but I would not, if I saw that. It's your first choice. It wouldn't be my first choice and I would be suss as fuck if I saw a Mulsanabe place that big. It was huge. With no one in it.

It was so big for like what I thought was a, even for Japanese standards, it's like you rarely hear Japanese people talk about this being their favorite type of food, right? Like there's a lot of other stuff. I would look at that and my first reaction would be someone's died in that restaurant. Someone has died from like badly like preserved,

you know, food or bad dishes. That seems like that. a malign dish. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, it's just intestinal hot pot. Yeah. And it's actually really nice during the winter, but it's, uh, it, but also.

Here we out though, would you ever choose it over normal Japanese hot pot? No. Yeah, it's like it's, I get it. Yeah, that's like a once a year thing for me. Yeah, if that. It was just odd how I, it's, I don't have an issue with it existing and being intestinal hot pot. I'm like, oh, what, they eat intestines?

It's so gross. I know they do that normally. I was just surprised at how large, this restaurant was dedicated to that. Because it's quite rare. Yeah, because normally it's like, they're a hot pot dedicated. That's maybe have Motsanabe as one of the items,

but like only Motsanabe, that's weird. Meilin, do you like Motsen? Best food ever in Fuku. Oh, but I fucking knew it! Fuck off. Okay, I was in Okayama. She said it's the best food ever. Fuck right off, dude.

No, listen, I've had, I've had the cow intestine style, at Chinese hot pot. It's fine. I wasn't, I'm not like a fuss eater. I'm not like I refuse to eat it. I just think that like, I'm like, there are a lot of people who like it. But very few people who are like, that's my faith.

There are some certain foods that I'm fine with eating, but I would never go out my way to order. You know what I mean? It's not the chicken feet restaurant. You know what I mean? Like, can we just have a chicken restaurant that also has chicken feed? Why are we specializing in this?

Why is it also specialize in like the one? one thing where it's like, yeah, you know, it's cool to eat. And you know, it's, yeah, but it's a polarizing. And also I went, like, it's like going to a restaurant that's like, oh, we specialize in celery. It's like, oh, not sure if I like, I like, I like, I don't know if this is just my, not sure if I'm like, yeah. There's other dishes that I would like, I don't know,

so we just went to a Yakutori place in the end. Yeah. It was fine. You can get more to there as well if you want it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's really weird. Yeah, I don't know. I'm curious.

Actually, no, you know what? I shouldn't get the curiosity to get the best of me because I'm probably gonna get food poisoning. And then Chris wanted to go to an Irish pub. We went to an Irish pub. And there was no one inside. Really? It was so awkward.

Why did you wanna go to an Irish pub? I don't know. You just, I don't know. You want a proper drink. Okay, proper drink. Too sad, they serve pines. British pints. British pints.

Oh, okay. Which I appreciate it. Okay, that's a different point. It's not, not, not for the viewers. You should have gone to the multi-now- just to see. I, there was, I don't think I gotta pay Chris any amount of money

to get in that restaurant. I think Chris would stab me. rather than going to the Monsana. It's like, how does you get food poisoning again? I'm sure it's safe. I'm sure it's fine. It's just I was, because it looked brand new, really like nice, really clean, really like well kept,

really nice branding, lots of spaces. I was just kind of like, what the, why for this? Maybe it's like, maybe it's like ultra expensive. It might be, but again, if you are ultra expensive, Motsonabe, which seems like a very niche food, why would you be in a train station? That's normally, train, like not to, There are some good places to eat in train stations.

In Japan, don't you're wrong, right? It's normally like the very, yeah, very affordable, very middle tier, kind of fast, because a lot of the time people are in a hurry, right? So it's never the like really classy high-end stuff. Fancy places, yeah. So you feel like if you were going for that kind of market, you kind of would maybe market towards-

Yeah, yeah. That's true. I don't know. And again, it made sense that the only people I saw in there were one couple that was very elderly. One elderly couple, that's it. Why is this place empty? I've never met young Japanese people who are like, My favorite food's Maltanabe.

Malin doesn't get... No, she said it's nice. I bet she's bullshit. She's supposed to be a contrarian. No, she said... She said... She said it's the best food in Fukuoka. That's what she's...

Fuck off! That's what she just said. So there's a place in Miyazaki, which has the best beef in Japan. And that is way better. I'll take that, thank you very much. Oh yeah, because you went to a place that surfed like, what was it, like award-winning...

Like the beef Olympics, right? So, yeah, so I'm sure if you watch Chris's video about it, Japan has the beef Olympics because of course they do. They do this with a lot of produce actually. And every three or four years, they have every, I don't know how it works.

I assume every city brings their beef to the table. They judge which one's the best. And Miyazaki, the prefecture, has won like the last 15 years. Yeah. To be fair, it is fucking delicious. And it is good. It's so good.

Right. And yeah, we had this coarse meal that was insane. It was just like, it was a Nobel Prize. So there's Nobel Prize winners and this is the meal they gave them. And I was like, thank God Chris is paying.

The first dish came out and his fucking caviar and I was like, thank God this isn't my video. I'm not paying for this. Holy shit. I'd never had caviar before, had it? You had never had caviar before? Why the fuck would I eat caviar?

When would I have had it? It was shit. There must have been like one fucking fancy meal you've done where they've just like added it and added it in somewhere. Like a tiny amount. Like a tiny amount. No, no, no.

I never had it before. I had it and I was like, this is the most me thing I'd ever tasted. Yeah. I mean, did you have it by itself? Yeah. Oh, well, that's why. Yeah, it was all right, it was fine.

It just tasted like this, tasted like it shouldn't cost this much. Actually, okay, so in Japan, right? They don't have like the same, what's the word? Feelings towards certain dishes and animals that we have in the West, right? Right, right. So,

I went to this, a friend of mine invited me to a course meal and this very, very fancy restaurant. All right. And there's like a business meeting. In Tokyo. In Tokyo, right? And I didn't know anything about it. I just knew that they did like really nice fusion food

or something, I don't know. And there's a lot of weird foods that I've never had. And there's a lot of stuff that I haven't had because I've heard it's awful and cruel. Like I've never had whale. Have you had whale? I've had it once. Yeah, right?

I've never had whale. Again, never gone out of my way to get this stuff. And I'm sure you didn't go out of your way to get it either. It's just like, obviously in Japan, even though the rest of the world is like, we will not wail. Japan is like, no. And there's a lot of places in Hokkaido

that's openly sell whale stuff. It's very normal, right? You know, it's a different cultural thing. And is it wrong? It's up for debate. I think it's kind of fucked, but it's whatever. It's my personal opinion. It doesn't matter.

It's not my country. So go to this restaurant and we're having these courses. And again, I don't know what's kind. I can't read the menu. It's all in Kanji, dude. I don't know what's coming out, but everything's been good. Everything has been delicious.

And it's like, to the point where I'm like, oh, this is going to cost too much. Fuck. I'm going to have to pay for this. And it was just like a client thing. Not my client. Someone wanted to take me to some meal

and turn around and I don't fucking know. So sitting there and then the next meal comes out and it's like, it's like steak. And it's like, oh, it's so good. And it's like, and then the next dish was, it was like a beef cheek in turtle soup. and I was like, I've never had turtle before, but I've never had the,

but it wasn't the turtle I wanted. I was hoping for the extinct turtle. You were, you didn't want a turtle, you wanted the tortoise. Yeah. I wanted the extinct Galaputus giant tortoise. Unfortunately, this was a common tortoise. So then I just felt sad.

Yeah, I thought about like the finding Nemo turtle and how cool it was it supon. Yeah, yeah, it was like a turtle source and I felt like, oh, is this, do you eat turtle, is it, how do I feel about eating turtle? I didn't know how to, but again, it's in front of me, I didn't know what it was,

and I was just like, I just ate it and then like, oh, that was turtle. I'm like, what? Apparently it's really good for your libido. That's like every other like, that's every like Asian-ish. Rare like Asian like ingredients. Is total common to eat? So, yeah, it's common.

In Asia, but not in the West, right? We don't eat it at all, right? I don't think in the West. What team I'm like, yay, no, that we don't, right? It's common in soups, right, in Japan. Soaps and like, yeah, and like Nabi and some of hot pots and stuff. But that wasn't the big boy. Oh.

It gets weirder. Okay. Dude, and this is where I was like, no, why did you bring this out? What? The guy brings out next up, I thought so bad. He brings out, he's like, all right, next dish we have shark fin.

Oh, no. Because I know, because shark fin is very cruel. Yeah, right? A lot of the times they grab the shark, they cut the fin off, throw it back and they can't like swim properly. So it just dies. It's fucked, it's such, like, fucked.

I was like, this is awful. I didn't know. If I knew I was gonna get shark, I wouldn't have, I wouldn't agree to eat at this restaurant. Yeah, I didn't want to eat the shark. So we get the food and I'm like, well, I may as well try it, right?

Because it's in front of me. Have you ever had it? No, never, no. Okay, so it's your first time, right? No, where the fuck? I don't even know how to get shark in the UK if I wanted to have it. I don't think it's possible to get it.

That's pretty cruel. I just, I never wanted to eat it, right? So I take a bite and I'm like, wow, for all the suffering and all the anguish, This tastes like shit. Yeah. This tastes so fucking awful. It's extremely boring.

It tastes like nothing. I just, and in my head, I'm like, angry, I'm starting to get angry. I'm like, this, this is what we, we kill these fucking things over. Just this part of the fish. And we don't use anything else. And we throw it back in for this.

And it costs like a million dollars for a fucking fin. What the fuck? We have failed as a society. At least with the giant tortoise. There was records claiming how delicious it was, and how useful the water sack was. Yeah, we used every part of the tortoise. We used everything in the tortoise.

What is this? It was shit. And so, God, I was just so annoyed. The whole dinner I was just pissed off. I was like, I think it was just like the unfortunate. I didn't know, right? I mean, it was, it's also like the unfortunate circumstances that shark fins, I mean, you say it tasted like shit, that's fine because it's like,

people didn't eat it for the taste, I don't think. It's like a ceremonial thing. Yeah, it's like a status thing, you know. So it's that's, it's so shit. It's extremely, it's like Fugu, right? It's like Puffer Fish. It's just extremely bland, expensive, and it's purely just to say you've had it.

Yeah, it's like Fugu, Fugu, having puffer fish, it is not worth the decades of training. You have to go through as a chef to become a Fugu chef. And I'm like, I get your license. Are you seriously telling me that, are you seriously telling me that a chef spent

10 years to cup and I just up? And I still have a chance I could die. I just think when did we ever be like, you know, salmon is pretty good, eh? Like, when did we ever stray away from the normal fish? Who are these fuckers who are making this, the hype around this stuff? Boys get this, sardines? Yeah. Pretty good.

Who the fuck is doing this shit with the sharks and the fucking pufferfish? Just give me a fucking fried chicken. Fuck, I got to sneeze. I'm so angry. Oh, fuck. I'm so angry. Yeah, someone was like, you know what? The soul and pepper ain't doing it for me.

I need a new spice. Paprika? No. Give me danger or give me suffering. That is the best spice. You literally pay out the ash just for danger. Yeah. That's literally it.

Yeah. Just honestly, pretty eating like a whole Domino's pizza is more danger to your life than the Fugu ever was. You know what I mean? Like the cholesterol risk is probably way high. Yeah. And it didn't take the pizza chef 10 years. And it tastes better.

I just don't, like, as human beings, we're just so fucking weird. And why are we obsessed with this shit? I just don't get it. Yeah, like I wouldn't have a problem with eating like a weird part of an animal. If we also used the rest of the animal. And it wasn't cruel, if it wasn't cruel.

You know, if it was killed humanely and stuff like that, and you know, if you actually make use of the animal. Yeah, that's why like, you know, I like how, like, the Japanese use, like, you know, animals like cows or like chickens or like fish, for a lot, I realize the irony of every single part of the animal, right? We don't let anything go to it. I realize the irony of me be like, fucking testings.

Okay, okay, listen. I was not chucking their shit out, you know. Hey, hey, hey, I better to eat it. Listen, I've eaten it before, it's fine. I just wouldn't go to a restaurant, right? Yeah, you fucking tell me double standing. I'll eat everything. I just won't be happy about it a lot of the time, right?

Yeah, for sure. And I'm firmly of the mindset of like, I'm willing to kill every animal I am willing to eat. Yeah, yeah, same here. But also it's interesting, because the whole cultural differences, right, of the animals that they're willing to eat.

Of course. Like, horse, very uncomfortable to talk about because people don't like talking about how the fact that JAN, Japan, eat for a horse. Like, why you gotta do Jamm like that? Yeah, it's available with a lot of Isakai. Yeah, they're normal fucking bar. And you just, there's like horse sashimi

that you can get as well, like, there are Isikai's, like, dedicated to horse. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very odd. And that's a very, that's one that I find that when I mention it on like stream and say that people have really tough time

getting over that one. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, when you hear like Sharfing, that's the silly thing that other people do in other countries. Yeah.

Horse, what? They're so cute. Again, we've spoken about this before. It's all branding. Horses are cute. That's why we're sad about it. If sharks were cute, you'd feel sorry for them. No, I think Sharf-hs are cute.

A lot of people don't. Shars can be pretty cute. A lot of people don't. I mean, as long, you know, it's, they also have bad PR, you know? Fucking jaws, like, like, jaws bought, like, Jaws bought shark PR like through the fucking dirt, man. You know, if sharks could sue, yo, fucking Steven Spielberg

better be like sweating, man. He ruined shark images for decades, no, centuries even. George does not represent us. How dare you? This is a stereotype. I will not stand for this. There's obviously a great question of like, well, obviously chickens have farmed in like giant things.

Yeah, I get that. All right. At least I'm not fucking throwing it back in the water and drowning it after a ticket's feet. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, right? It's like, it's hard to police that shit because it's like, oh, people will always throw out.

The culture, you know, play con. You know, be like, what, we've been eating this last century. You can be as picky as you want with this and go down any step. You can be like, well, you threw away some fries. You didn't eat them all. It's so wasteful. You know, fuck you.

Yeah. I hate you. It's like, where do you draw the line then in terms of like trying like animals? You know, all I know is that you shouldn't fucking chop a part of the animal. and throw back in the water and let it die. That we're gonna all agree on that.

It's like, if I'm gonna eat an animal, I wanna eat and I want them to utilize the most, as much of the animals as possible, so that like there is little to no waste. And no suffering. And no suffering, you know. If you wanna go deep into that rabbit hole, you can go really deep. And it's, and you know, the hot stuff you can see online is horrible.

Yeah. And that's how vegetarians and vegans also. Also, I wanna sleep at night. So yeah, exactly, exactly. Yeah. Well, what a really fun way to end Look at us. Look at us, guys, look at us. So that was fun. Not doing that again.

And don't eat weird shit if you don't have to. Don't even be curious. I'm telling you right now, you can live like a character for me. It's like shit. And if you come visit Japan, please try other ramen other than Ichiran. Okay. I'm being of you, it hurts.

Yeah. It hurts when I see a line outside of itchon. Don't do that shit. What is the common ramen chain that people go to in Japan? Like not tourists, like local. Is it, Ipudo? Ipudo is pretty good. There's a lot of them.

There's a Fjorda, what's the Hanna one? That's Udon though, right? Hanamad Udon. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. That one's nice and cheap. That was cheap. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Udon is often super cheap, like 400, 500, 600, 600 y'n balls.

Oh yeah, Hanamaru, Udo, you can, I think you can get one for like 350, insane value. Yeah, it's pretty good meal, cheap. Udon and Raman and sober in general, just like some of the cheapest and also best tasting food you can get in Japan. Yeah, honestly.

But hey, look at all these patrons though. Ooh, they eat every part of the animal, I hope. I hope. Shout out to the vegetarian and vegan patrons. I only eat cool ranch Doritos from now on. Vegan Fenley.

But hey, if you like to support this show to our Patreon. Patreon.com slash trash taste. Also follow us on Twitter. Send us some memes on the subreddit and if you hate our face to listen to us on Spotify.

And yeah, I guess we'll see you guys next time. Sorry if we put any trauma into you in terms of the things we talked about. Yeah. All right. Well, we'll see you guys next week. Bye. Bye.