Trash Taste Podcast - We CANNOT Stop Arguing | Trash Taste #65

Episode Date: September 10, 2021

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You're okay. Connor suffered from a major cramp in his neck about it. I had like a, my life flashed before my eyes, like 10 minutes ago. I thought that was it. My neck was gone. We were about to start recording and then Connor had a cramped in his neck and I'm just like, man, can you get any more, like, boomer than you already are?

Is your body already feeling it? Are you getting your like nerves already, man? Maybe I'm dying already. Fuck, bro. I mean, actually, I mean, actually like, I have recently started to like stretch every day after like work. Like just, just at home.

Like, you know, I go home and just do like really simple like 10 to 15 minute like stretch exercises that they have on YouTube. Well, it started because I found myself sitting at my desk all day or sitting, you know, on a set like this all day. And then I would get up and go, oh, that's a sharp pain in my lower back.

I wanna make fun. I wanna make fun of you, but you know, I can't make fun of you if you're taking care of yourself. Exactly. And you can't make fun of you considering you had a massive. But as a friend, I want to call you a boomer and ask you when you want your diaper changed.

Yeah, right? Like, it's scary. Like, I think to myself, nah, I'm not at that stage yet. Yeah. But then I realize next month I'm 27, I'm like, you know what? I'm kind of getting to that stage. I should probably start while I'm ahead, you know, to just like fix my shit before it gets too messed up. Honestly, I feel like a lot of people, especially when you're just in your fucking 20s,

you just don't give a shit about this. I mean, why would you? You never feel any effects on your body? You do shit that your body was not built to do. Yeah, you don't really. realize this, but like you don't realize this until you like, that kind of time period of your life comes to an end, that you just realize, man, that's a really short time period of my life. And I've just got the rest of my life

now having to live with this problem because I just didn't fucking take care of it. So yeah, take everybody. Like if there's one thing that I've definitely paid attention to, especially like, it doesn't matter if you're a YouTuber or you're just at an office job, somewhere where you're sitting at a desk for a long periods of time, please, please, Google ergonomics. It's really fucking important,

and it's a really boring word, but my God, like... Egonomic. Like, every time I set up a new desk now, I have to, like, make sure it's just ergonomically correct because I didn't realize this until, not even when I was a YouTuber, but like a year of working on office job,

and just my screen was just slightly off. And like, it was slightly off-cented. I had to, like, tilt my neck, just to look at it. And it's, you know, it's something that I'd, didn't really care about until like a year came past and then my neck really fucking started to hurt. So I was a villain in an anime.

Me, when I have to tilt my neck one percent less than I'd like. Ah! You will die now. So I fist the North Star shit. Yeah. It's like, you've made me, til my neck one degree more than I'd have liked to.

You know what this means, God. Every day it increases by another degree. Yeah. As retaliation, I will bend your back one degree every day. No, but that's the thing, right? It's like, I, I've also realized very quickly since we have the standing desks here. Yeah.

Because for the longest time I thought like standing desks was just like, you know, like a what- That's a myth. It's like a fad. I was like, come on, like this is just like a new thing that's happening. It's like, oh, people are health-conscious, whatever. But the moment I started using, I'm like, oh, okay, this actually makes so much of a difference because-

I just like the noise it makes. I was like the, it goes, br- There's something nice about it going to z-z. But it's so, I realize very quickly, especially between working, here in the office and working at home where I don't have a stand desk currently. I mean, I bought a standing desk recently because I realized actually how much of a difference.

Should we discover standing? No, I literally did. I was like, wow, actually after using it, I realized why this is such a big thing and why so many YouTubers are getting it because it actually makes so much of a difference. Yeah, like, I never, it's so weird because especially like when you're in university, right?

You hear about these things that adults do to increase productivity. And I'm just like, just work better. Just work harder. I don't know when it happened, but then like, I just noticed that my productivity just dropped because of this thing that I never really thought about.

Like having a standing desk, for some reason, it just helps your productivity when you're standing and you just need a change in posture or change in whatever. Exactly. I'm pretty lying to myself when I feel like it makes you more productive. I feel like I just wanted to spend money and be like, look, it's productive.

Look, look, my desk move. I'm productive now. It's like, no, I'm lazy stuff. Yeah, yeah. Or at least my definition of lazy. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I cannot work. I mean, I remember for the longest time

I just worked from my bedroom and I'm just like, I don't know how I did that. I literally don't know. I did that for two years as well. I don't know. I'm trying to do it. I can work in coffee shops. It's like sensory overload.

I can't do that. There's too much stuff going. I love working in coffee shops. There's people doing things that isn't me. And it's intense. Yeah, I can't do it. I remember I tried once to edit a video at a coffee shop.

And I just felt way too, like, self-conscious because in the back of my head, I'm thinking like, these people must think I'm so weird looking, editing a video of myself. I can't, I can't just treat this place like my workstation either, right? There's too much stuff, has to. Yeah, there's not, it's not my fucking area.

It's, I can't rip a massive far as if I'd like to, you know? Sometimes you just need to get out of the space that you've seen for like every day of your life so, touching grass. Huh? Touching grass. Yeah, so yeah, you're basically touching grass except you're just drinking coffee

with a bunch of strangers who you're never gonna see again. How do you not just constantly keep buying coffee? That's, you don't. I just keep buying coffee, right? Yeah. I think that's the whole reason why people were working coffee shops. How much coffee do you drink anyway, Connor?

No, see, I would- Your next espresso machine is fucking dying. It's just, good, so I can buy the upgrades of one. No more, please. I would find myself buying like eight fucking Starbucks's. I'll know the menu at the back of my hand. I'll be like a tour guide

who will come to start. Starbucks with me, I'll be like, no, don't get that. It's just, I know I'll spend like $50 a day on coffee if I go to Starbucks and work there. I know, because like, I don't drink that. Oh, I do drink coffee. See, I do. I drink it awful lot.

But you drink it so fucking fast, and I don't know how. You drink like water. I think you drink it extraordinarily slow. I think I drink it. It's like you're making love to the fucking coffee. I think it at a normal pace. No, you drink it. Yeah, probably you drink it.

I drink it slow, but I drink fast, but he drinks it in a normal place. I feel like you're getting. Like the three wolves here. No, what was it, fucking, uh, not wolves, fuck, uh, pretty different wrong. Three pigs. Three pigs. Three pigs. Three, my God. Three musketeers. The three wolves. Totally different childhood story, yeah?

Completely off. We're just blowing our houses. And the big bad pig came out. Look, I'm saying it's, it's most economically efficient to drink your coffee and just eat your food slowly, right? Because you have more time to enjoy it. Because, like, what happens when you finish your coffee? Then you just feel like you have an empty, you feel like you have a hole. Because you're assuming my happiness and my enjoyment of the meal is tied at my speed

or the amount of time it exists on the table. That isn't fucking matter. I'm just gonna eat it. That's what I like. When I stop eating it, the joy is gone. I don't savor the joy the slower I take it. That's absurd. What are your fucking speed runner?

No, no. I don't get enjoyment out of being having one bite and thinking, damn, that's a good bite. Sometimes you've got to enjoy sometimes you got to savor the bite. I do. Sometimes I do.

But when it's Starbucks, it's like, it's like being like, I'm savoring a wipe of my ass cheek. I've had so many Starbucks, I'm not gonna savor it. It's a fucking Starbucks. I think that's why you fucking drink eight coffees a day or whatever.

You're an espresso machine is a fucking battered war veteran at this point. Like you just got back to World War II, man. I think, I think it's, I never knew it was possible for coffee machines to have NAM flashbacks. That's why I saw yours. I get value out of it, okay?

Every time you turn on the button, it's like, oh no, no! I'm getting my mileage out of that machine, whether you like it or not. I love an espresso. I can't help myself. Oh yeah, we know, we know. Yeah, I just love it, man.

I love the taste of dirt in my mouth. Do you not like find yourself just being like, maybe it's too many coffees? No. Why? I don't know, why would I? I don't know, like, okay, so you obviously like the taste of coffee, yeah?

I love the taste of coffee. Okay, so why not just drink decaf? No. No. No. I know this is a controversial. thing to ask, but I have to make sure. I have to make sure.

It's just, you know, half of the... If the caffeine doesn't work for you, what's the difference? No, no, no, it does work, but it's numbed. But the kick that you get when you drink it is the same. You sound like a drug. I mean, I mean, I'm probably, yeah, it's probably is. I'm actually on Connoisseide here because, not regarding coffee, but like, for example,

I like the taste of beer and wine. Okay, yeah. Have you ever had non-alcoholic beer and wine? Oh, it's horrible. It's horrible. It's horrible. The coffee, what makes it so great is that that first sip in the morning is just beautiful.

Like it's such a kick, the instant kick. I agree, I agree. And I keep getting that every single cut. So I keep coming back. Every 10 minutes is another morning. It's a never ending morning. No, because going back to being able to work in a coffee shop, don't like, I find it so hard to just work by myself

in my room sometimes. Like, I just like the feeling of- I get distracted. By yourself? Yeah. Yeah, I get distracted by my own thoughts sometimes. Yeah, I don't know. Sometimes I just like having an atmosphere where just,

it's just people doing stuff and people doing shit. Which is why like, I love working in the office now when there's people here because like. I like that too, because we were all working though. Yeah, exactly, yeah, right? But when we're at the coffee shop, I feel like, you know, I'm kind of, it's like that one guy who won't stop talking about Transformers at the party.

I feel like I've just brought something to an area where, what kind of parties are you going to do? Let me tell you. I feel like I, I'm intruding on the atmosphere of the location, even though I know I don't give a shit when someone is working at a Starbucks,

but I feel like I'm doing something weird when I'm working at a Starbucks. Well, I've always been that person that like, even like during school, I could never study on my own. I had to study with other people. Otherwise I just wouldn't focus. I used to be, but then I swapped. I don't know why.

Really? Yeah. I, like, flip-flop between the two. I can do either, but if I do one for too long, then I just, I need, I need, I need, like, sometimes you gotta change up your routine, right? Because if you did like a full day of studying with you, with your friends.

You only really did like three hours of studying. Yeah, but that's three hours more than doing it on my own. Yeah, but so I feel like I do 12 hours of my friends where six of it are, hey, have you seen this funny YouTube video? Oh yeah, yeah. And then three hours is actually studying.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And then when I do it's like four hours of solid study. See, I can't do that. Okay, well. Because like even like, even when I'm at home in my office and I'm like, okay, I have to get shit done. I can't just sit down and work for three hours straight.

It depends how severe the stuff is that I need to get done. I never find myself in that situation. When the same, If I need to get done is like, it needs to get done today. I'll get it done today. Oh yeah, of course, of course. But if it's like, oh, you know,

this video's coming out like a week. The deadline's not coming up. It'll be done. I play some apex, might fuck around. Yeah, I just think there is just too many distractions on my work computer, unfortunately. Yeah, laptop doesn't have those distractions. No, because, okay, when, when, it's like,

it's like exercising at home versus exercising at the gym, right? Because in theory, I don't know about that. No, no, no, no. I think it is because like, in theory, in theory, In theory, if you exercise at home, it's a lot more efficient, right? If you just buy a home gym, you can just exercise at home. You can fucking buy Wii fit. You should, you should like losing weight speed run.

But like when you go to the gym, everyone around you is there for a purpose or is just doing something. It's being productive. Sounds like you want to go to an office. Well, yeah. I mean, sometimes. That's why we have this office, right? Are you still working at coffee shop now or is it here? I don't know.

I still work at coffee shops. Okay. I don't think that comparison is comparable. Because you know, a gym, your home has more of the correct equipment that you need to work. You have the cameras, you have the mics, you have, as a YouTube, you have everything that you would need for a desktop.

You have the ergonomics. Starbucks doesn't have the organomics. And, you know, I've seen some of the start sometimes they're busy, man, you can't get the ideal chair, you've got to sit on the show shitty stools. Not if you go first thing in the morning. That's the way you go and right. You can't just watch so I could get in clock in before everyone else.

Like, what the fuck you're on? Honestly, this is how you know, I've, like, worked in a coffee shop. Like, I know the peak optimal time to go to Starbucks to get the seat that I want. And the seat that I want is like right in the corner. It's got a outpower out there as well, so you can just work there all day.

And it's just perfect. You have enough of an atmosphere where you don't get distracted by the people around you, but you still get the nice... I can just imagine, car lining up first thing in the morning, 6 a.m. Like, damn, this guy must really want his coffee. Everyone else on the business suits with their MacBooks

waiting for their fratpes, they start working. Honestly, you can't go during lunchtime or any time past 4 PM here, because then it's just too many people. But outside of that, you get free choice. I've never been to the Starbucks here and it hasn't been busy as far.

Yeah, me either. Like, if your job, for example, if the kind of content you did didn't always require a camera, right? Or, you know, sometimes a lot of the videos you do is just pure research, right? when you're researching things to buy and stuff like that.

I feel like you can do that kind of work in a coffee shop and have a change of an environment. But I could also do that at home. No, that, you could do that. What I'm arguing is that, you know, if you need something to be more productive, I feel like a change in environment really does fucking help.

But I get so frustrated because, you know, I'm using a laptop and I'm like, fuck, I wish I had my keyboard, I wish I had my mouse, you know, like I start getting frustrated that's not as fast as how it is it. Right. Like I can do it way faster at home. See, I'm like, to me, to me, I've, I, I get what you mean, but then some, because I'm too used to working at home, sometimes like the smallest thing can just distract me. It's just like, if it's not like perfectly optimized or perfectly optimally, if something's not optimal, then it would just like distract me. I also don't want to wear a mask when I'm working. I just want to be home. This day and age, it's a little more pain in the eyes. Yeah, I just, oh man, you know, I just don't want to work with them. Like what? On a lot of. I don't want to work with them. Like what? On a lot. I don't want to.

laptop for a few hours with my mask on. I'm like, I can go home and work and work and breathe. I can go, it's my air vent. And go sneeze. And, you know, also going back to the gym comparison, you know, again, I was I was going to say, like, the gym has all the equipment you'd want. Your home is never going to be as stacked as the gym. Unless you have like a private gym in your house. Even then, right? Like, you won't get the, you won't get the cringy playlist. You know, all of these things add, you know, the water machine. The cringy playlist ads. The gringy playlist. Yeah, you know, the, the Justin Bieber baby that comes on occasionally. What Starbucks are you going to?

No, no, no, the gym. Oh, the gym. I enjoy the pit bull that comes on on repeat. That's when you know it's four o'clock, right? Evanescence, yeah, they would play the same songs. I loved it. I don't know why. But also, you know, you are,

there's just so much more at the gym. There's so many more facilities and the coffee shop doesn't have any facilities. You're downgrading. Whereas the gym, you know, the argument to go to a gym is that you can unequivably get an upgrade in equipment and you also get the environment.

So I'd think that comparison. Full short, sadly gone. Change my mind. Well, the thing is, right, because I feel like atmosphere is important and it's not all about equipment, right? I agree, I agree. If equipment was all that mattered,

especially when it's working, then everyone would need fucking three screens and a gamer PC to make videos, to make YouTube videos. And we know, we know that that's not the case. As somebody who used to make his videos on a $300 laptop, I can tell you,

I need the PC. Yeah. I need it. I, I, I, 12 hour render times, I find a mistake, fuck no, man. You can't do that to yourself. I'm not, I'm not saying you need to, you can do everything in the coffee shop,

but I'm saying if you need a change in an environment, get out of your house sometimes, touch some grass. I swear to God, it would help, it'll help you productivity. It'll help, it'll help. Bottom line. Are you telling me, are you telling me that that apex logo in the corner doesn't fucking taunt you?

I don't know. Every time you have like five minutes and you're just like, hmm, maybe I could play again. Sometimes I've owned this. Do you think you can play Apex in Starbucks? No, you can't. That would be true power. You can also, you know, I'm not a slave to work.

Sometimes I can slack off for an hour and play Apex. You know, nothing with that. You know, it's a break. Privilege. You know, also, you want to, you know, also, when you want to take a toilet, you know, sometimes you're gonna worry about, oh, my bag, my stuff's here,

I don't wanna pack it all up. No, it's in Japan. I know, I know, but also. Like any other country, I'd be like, yeah. Or like, I've got to the void. Also, yeah, but, yeah, but, But it's a bit different when we go to the toilet, when you go to the toilet,

because you take an hour when you're in the toilet. And I feel like you're tempting fate. You're really pushing Japan's limits on what will be stolen. It probably won't be, but I'm five minutes, I'm in and out, it's fine, no, no problem. Maybe deal. But also, I also like being able to fully immerse myself

in the toilet experience, and I feel like I can't do that in the public toilet. You know what I mean? What are you? I can't, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, I can't enjoy. I've never been speechless on the podcast but I can't enjoy a shit

In public. What is my retort to that? What, I can't enjoy. Fully immersive experience. I want to go to the toilet comfortably. The toilet experience. I agree with you in terms of shits, right? My God, we're fucking talking about shits again.

Well, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, bring me up. It's a point of net. Because I need my own private space. You can't go to the toilet in public? Number two. Why? I'd like, it's like a last resort, right? What? What?

Why? Why? Because I want my own private space, right? I wanna- What are you doing? You shitting on the walls? He's making art. What are you doing?

Okay, okay, okay. I don't want a time limit to how long I need to sit on the toilet, okay? I don't give a shit. When I wave someone, I understand sometimes you have to take the time you take. Yeah. I'll complain about it.

If someone takes 10 minutes of shit, I don't give a fuck, he can take 10 minutes to take a shit. Well, he doesn't want to be complained at. That's the point. I'm not gonna complain, I'm gonna mutter under my breath when I sit down and I'm gonna feel pressured, you know?

I hate it when I feel, Just don't feel pressure. Just don't feel pressure. You can't see through door. You can't see the fucking line. You're shitting, you're in your bubble. Don't rush the artist when he's making his art, all right? Come on.

We've all been there. We've all been there. You're fucking desperate for the toilet, and you're like, you're fucking searching for any public toilet you can. Maybe you're in a Starbucks, maybe you're in a train station, right? And you go to this order and there's just this one guy who's just taking three millennia. As much as much as like...

Is that you every time? It's fucking him every single time. I don't want to be that guy. That's why I'm just like, I'm doing it a whole way. Oh, there's gone again. I want to have a comfortable experience. And I understand that comes.

It might take a little more time than I'd like. Right. I understand that comes with the fact that someone else is gonna want a comfortable experience. I don't have to wait. Literally, I don't. I will wait to give that shit. I will wait the five minutes, the 10 minutes,

whatever it be. Yeah, I'll be like, oh, fuck say, why you taste? But you know, every end of the day, I don't give a shit. You have some very, I mean, what a big man here. What a big man. Like, you have some really fucking weird toilet habits that's- What you mean?

I don't have any words on. Okay, so before we start recording, it kinda goes into the toilet, Joey, right? And he goes, do you sit down when you pee? And I'm just like, what? I'm mixing match, I do both. Do you have a penis? Isn't that, isn't the whole point of being a man?

It's so you can get your God-given right to pee standing up, and you choose to sit down? I sometimes sit down when I be. Oh my God. Bro, I got like big ass cheeks. Sometimes it's just, it's like, it's a fucking bedev. I've rotted your guy's mind. No, no, no, no.

No, no, no, no, no. No, no, hear me out. The reason why I sometimes sit down to pee is because when you're standing up, you can't check your phone. Well, for one, you can't check your-in-vice. It's literally five seconds, 10 seconds. No, no, no, no.

But like, for me, what it is, is that sometimes I sit down to pee because sometimes I don't wanna fucking clean my mess. You know, you might, sometimes you might miss. When you pee in a toilet, you can't guarantee no splash back. Yeah, exactly. And as someone who cleans the toilets

in his own house, I don't wanna clean that shit. When you're wearing shorts and you pee, right? If it's like, if there's like a 30 centimeter difference between where your pee is and the toilet, there's gonna be splashback. Yeah. If you're wearing shorts, you'll feel it on your legs.

Exactly. So when you go into a toilet and there's a urinal there, do you just sometimes go to the public? The public toilet? Yeah, if it's a public toilet, yeah, because sometimes I want to sit down. Yeah. Sometimes I'd be walking around for so long. You're just fucking exhausted, bro. And God forbid, there are no benches in Japan, right?

So the biggest thing is a toilet. This is the most unoptimized way to go to the toilet ever. Like, you should be against this. You're literally spending more energy to sit down, pee, than it is just to like two birds, one stone. It's like, I, what? What are he talking about?

He gets to pee and he gets to sit down. I pee, I don't immediately get back up. I'm on my phone for like five minutes. I'm just scrolling. This is some of the best phones I get on. Wait, whoa, whoa. Wait, and you're criticizing him for taking an hour to shit. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

You take five minutes to pee? No, no, not actually five minutes, but like, I play my phone a little bit. I play some angry birds, you know, some cut the rope, you know, You know the classics. Of course, doodle jump. You know how it is, you know.

No, you actually genuinely take 30 minutes of shit. I don't think that's not the same. Yeah, I actually- You genuinely, I have- We get to the point in this office where I legitimately go, where's gone? Yeah, we go where's gone. And we realized he's been gone for 30 minutes.

Did he go to the shops or something? No, he's taking a shit. Okay, but like, I'm actually, I'm not just sitting there for no reason, okay? I don't- What part of this is take? Can you explain which aspect takes 30 minutes? I'm genuinely true. Are you performing, like, alchemy in there?

Like, why is it taking so long? I don't know, sometimes, like, I just feel uncomfortable if I don't feel completely empty. Like, like, like, like, I need to feel completely empty before I feel comfortable stopping the process, right? That is the fucking stupidest shit. What are you talking about? Sometimes you're just not gonna empty up, man.

You just gotta get on with you again. You're gonna be sitting there all day. Just go back there. I'm completely fine with that, you know? Have you not considered, like, you don't have a limit to how many shit you can take a day, you know? Like, you can, if you can, if you, You take a shit, you get up, and you go,

oh, I'm gonna just come back later. About an hour later, you're like, oh, I'm a bit full again. You can go back. Yeah, but it's- Unlike video games, you can pause. You can come back. Why do you have to like,

this is the only shit I can take for the day. I'm gonna empty out when I can. Like, like, it's, like, you're not a dog. You've nerfed yourself. Huh? How have I nerved myself? I have that feeling, right,

where I'm not fully empty. I'm like, shogun I, get on with the dead, and I'll come back later and I'll come back later and finish the job. I take like two to three shit today on average. Yeah, me too, me too. Just because like I know, like, I'm just like in and out,

if I'm still full, it's all right, I'll be back in an hour. You can tell within like two pushes, if it's coming or not. I'm not, like, you don't want to strain that shit. You're not need to wait, you're depraving a good fucking experience. Bro, you're, I'm sorry? Your ass muscle is probably the strongest fucking thing in exists. The amount you've probably worked that thing out is probably insane.

I'm probably crushed someone's head with your anus man. Jesus Christ. You know, I'm, I'm gonna fucking say it. Sometimes the shits are the high of the day. Like, like, like, sometimes you just need a fucking escape from your world. Are you okay? Like, are your days okay? All that days are fucking good, Matt.

I just imagine. Are you kidding me? Sometimes you just need to escape from your man cave. You just need to go on your Twitter. Like, like. I just imagine it. He's just eight hours in the Starbucks. Fucking vain bursting in his head. He's like, I gotta go ship, but I gotta go home.

I can't do it here. It's gonna take one hour. This is a black hole that's warming in his asshole. Like, I'm gonna go. I will do anything to like, to like hold it so I can get back home and just get in my comfortable space, right? You have, okay, okay, like some of, some of, like, some of the best ideas, I swear to God, some of, like, human civilization would be like 50% less civilized

if people didn't have a space to shit in comfortably. I swear to God, some of the best ideas come on the toilet. I'm not fucking crazy. Okay, gone, listen, if you spend a majority of your day on the toilet, yes, most of your ideas, are gonna be on the toilet. So that's where that's coming from. Yeah.

All I'm saying is the toilet is just a comfortable place with zero distractions. You're just free with your own thoughts. And the only place that really, the only, the only place. Sounds like you voluntarily put yourself in prison for 30 hours a day. Also it's like, how much more chaotic is your, like other explosions happening in your room?

Like what? Like how much more relaxing could it be compared to your own room? I'm sorry, it's, it's like there's, there's two spots that you just can't take away from me. My fucking toilet where I can shit. And my shower, where I can take 40 minutes showers as well. 40 minutes showers.

This man's morning routine, you know, you know there's influences who are like, I get up at 5 a.m. I'm gonna do all this shit. God's like, I get up at 5 a.m. I take a shower, 7 a.m. I take a shit. 9 a.m. I'm ready to work. Honestly, honestly, honestly, after, after that 40 minutes, you have the most productive hour of your life, man. I swear to fucking God. 40 minute showers. Dude, Africa would be a first world country if you didn't take showers that long.

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So there's this thing that you can buy, and I've never seen it in the UK. I don't know if it's a thing elsewhere. In Japan, you can buy like these cushioned toilet seats. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So you can buy cushions to go on your toilet seat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's probably the most vile thing I've ever experienced. Yeah. And Gant and Sidney fucking bought one.

Okay, okay, don't group me in there. Like, like, like this. Explain yourself. No, I'm not explaining myself because you know sometimes when you go to a house, right, and you can tell who the single people are, and you can tell who the people who are, Either it's a women's room or it's like a couple.

Yeah. I don't know any guy in the world who would actually buy a fluffy thing to place on their toilet. Imagine it. It's like a fluffy carpet. Yeah. On your toilet seat. Yeah. Where you put your sweaty butt cheeks on a hot summer's day.

Yeah. And I was just like, what? Well, I'm going to sit on this. God's cheeks, he's been there 40 minutes. Well, I mean, you know, with the amount of fucking hours he's sitting on a hard surface, he probably needs to fucking cushion his ass. You probably replicate Garn from the DNA. on the toilet.

You know what I mean? You make a clone of cars. I just, I just, to me it's so disgusting. I don't know why, because you get, you, you know, I don't want fabrics near, like a toilet bowl. It's waringly close to the butthole. I don't like, I don't like it either. Is there a reason why he was purchased?

Is, I, do you know? Honestly, I, did you push back at all? Were you like, no, Cindy? Honestly, I woke up one day. I went to the toilet and I was like, Cindy, what the fuck is this thing living on our toilet, see? And I try to get it off, but it's glued on. No.

No. So I'm just like. It's so bad. I hate it so much. Oh my God. Sure in the winter, maybe I can understand the purpose of it. You don't want a cold toilet seat. I get it.

It's not that good. But it is, it is like the most- It is the most disgusting thing in summer. You have to sit on a fair. It also, you know, when it's not even my toilet, and I get a God's house, I want to God's toilet, I'm like, fuck, fuck. And this people are, this people,

This feels like, you know when they design the homeless benches to be, like, you can't sleep on them. Yeah, yeah. It felt like that. It was like a toilet seat design so no one would be insane enough to shit on it. Because it's like, why would you wanna rub the carpet

that God's put his ass cheeks on into your ass cheeks? So disgusting. Of course Japan would come up with something like that. Yeah, of course. I mean, it's one of the things. It's, so gross. He don't need it. I bet what I go to your house next is gonna be gone.

I'm sorry to call you out, Sydney. Yeah, yeah. I mean like there's a spite, she's gonna put another one on top of it. So it's like extra thick. Double deck. Double that shit. There are just certain items which you would never just, there were certain items I find that you would just never see in like,

in a guy's place or just a guy, like a bachelor pad for example. Yeah. Like, um, like I don't trust any guy who buys candles, right? Uh, I buy candles. Do you buy candles? Yeah, actually, scented candles. I love candles. Oh my God.

What's wrong? I love candles, man. They're great stretch. I mean, they're great. How so, wait, wait, you like candles because you like baths, right? I love baths. Okay, that's, that's the reason.

That makes sense. That's the fucking reason. I don't, I'd say I take a shower, like just a shower without a bath combo. Maybe once a month. Really? I just bath every day. Damn.

So how often do you use your candles? My candles? Well, um, right now obviously, because they're moving, I haven't really been using them. Yeah. I'd say normally I used to like light it, like, twice a week.

Twice a week? Twice a week. In like, do you have one for like each room? No, just my office. Oh, just your office, okay, okay. I don't trust it. It might just like spill. Yeah, I just like, like, I like having a nice scent

in my room, but there's just something about candles and just having an open flame somewhere in your room that just makes me really uncomfortable. Dude, fucking, Aki puts on like eight fucking candles and throughout the house and I'm like, everywhere I look as a fire hat. I know, I know, right? I know.

I never put a candle in a room that I'm not in. I would never do that. Oh, yeah, no. I'd never light a candle while I'm not in the room. Yeah, I get scared shitless when I'm like working all day. And then I go to the- We live in Japan. Yeah, go to the-

The earthquake could shake you. Yeah, yeah, exactly, right? And I go to the bedroom and there's like three candles lit up and I'm like, what do you want this room to smell like? Yeah, when you go to bed, yeah, it's fair, but not when you're not in the bedroom, which is dangerous. I mean, smells good, don't get me wrong, but it's like, one is enough.

Yeah. When did you start buying cameras? I know, I got really into it. I used to go on like candle subredits for like candle recommendations. Wait, wait, wait, wait. I swear this has happened in the time period that I started to know you,

because I've been to your place and I've never seen a candle before. I got really into it in London. I had like four candles in my bedroom. Was it fucking Zina that got you into it? No, no, I was the candle guy. You were the candle guy? I was all me.

I bought one candle at a store one day and I thought this is good, but it could smell better. And then I looked for a scent that I thought would be better. And I found what I liked. And I started like learning what gives a good scent. You know, a lot of them don't really do good sense, you know, like the very, you know,

when you sniff it and, like, floral ones and like grassy type smells, they don't fucking do anything. Like when you burn that shit, it's not gonna last. There's a few that like, like the really strong, like fruit ones, like cherry and stuff, that'll stay in your room for like a week. I just, I just want to know, like, okay, so you got into candles for the scents, right?

Yeah. Why not buy like one of those, something that's not a candle? So I do try the, uh, the, uh, the incense. Yeah, like, there's air freshener. They don't do shit. Air freshen just suck. Yes, they do.

No, they don't, they don't do anything. They do, some, some, a lot of them when you've had the, when you've had the Chad candle, you can't go back to the, what about the incense thing? Yeah, incense is a good, I fucking, okay, I fuck with incense.

Which on the, of course you do. What the, uh, okay, fucking monk. Wait, wait, wait, the, uh, sorry, I forgot the different, incense is the ones you burn, right? Yeah, it's like, it's not like, what are the water, the oil soaking ones?

What are they, they're both incense, right? Yeah, they're both incense, right? The different types of incense. So the burning ones are good as well. I like those. The burning ones are good for like if you need an instant hit. Yeah, true. If you just need it, if you just need to make.

No, it's true. It's very, it's a very. Shut the fuck up, Ashley. Like, like, like, you're totally right. The incense sticks when you burn them are much better for like an instant. Like you wanna cleanse the room. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Nice clean scent. Yeah, and you say smoke, it's not smoky. It's got the nice charred scent to it. That really helps. It's just, it's very relaxing. Yeah, it's very relaxing. It's very relaxing. I can see why, you know, every,

Every fucking massage place has one. Yeah, I like the, uh, I find that the, the, the oil ones are very good if you want to have a, like, a 24 hour one for like, a, you know, like, maybe two weeks tops. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, like, and I, like, and I, like, a lot of guys don't really consider sense or stuff. I have one in every room. And the only, like, the only, like, the only reason I did was because I started dating someone. And then, and then, and then I'm just like, this is, this is, this actually, smells, actually, uh, make the room feel good. Who fucking knew, right? I have one in my living room bedroom and office. Yeah. Because I just wanna have every room centered.

But I'm just like, why use candles when you have the oil sticks or the incense? Because candles are aesthetic. Candles are more of a, you know, if you really wanna feel like you're relaxing, the flame along with the same. It's like a fireplace. It's a safe fireplace, you know.

Not in Japan. You can't get a fireplace in Japan so the next best thing is a candle. Because candles don't make, you know, there's, if you're not. I fucking stress this fuck when I see a can, an open flet. next to the carpet.

Are you kidding me? Like in Japan? If, one little earthquake and you just, bye bye, say bye, a partner. As long as you trim the wick to the right size, make sure it's not burning too aggressively, make it burn slowly. The fuck are you talking.

I had like specific scissors for trimming wicks. Are you serious? Yeah. Because I used to buy big candles. How are you never talked to, how am I just finding out of this today? It's just like, it's just, I had like, for a guy, it's big deal.

I just, I had like, yeah, for a guy's a big deal. I used to buy, so occasionally I'd buy, like, there was like Yankee candles. That's like the, that's like, I've just gotten into candles candles. Yeah. Like these are basic bitch candles, you know what I mean? This is baby's first, I'm getting into the-

Are you really about to gate keep candles? No, I was, I was, I'm honestly. No, no, no, he's a candle connoisseur. Because the Yankee candles, the thing, you get very, very artificial sense, and you get like, you can get like big ones and you get like a good value for money. But the problem is that, because they're so big,

like this fucking big, after like one week or two days of using it, there's shit goes to tunnels right down. It's a candle term, by the way, tunneling. You wouldn't understand if you went into it. So it goes right down and you have to like, but depending on how you burn it, you can't just keep burning it, otherwise it will just dig down.

So you have to like, you have to be smart. Do you buy like custom-made candles? I really like them when you go to, there was some candle stores in London that did really nice candles, really expensive, but man, the sense was so nice and you would get like really nice spreading scents. A lot, like I said, like I'd say half of the candles out there,

like you can get an Amazon shit, don't do anything. They just, they just burn and then you're like, I can't smell shit. Yeah. Great. Like the scent should be strong, but not last too long. No, I'm part of the incense master race.

That's, that is good. That to me, as a candle boy, I both have their place. Nothing to me can beat an incense. And to me, candles are just like the middle chalet. Yeah. I wonder why, God.

I was in the dictionary. Incense. I like these two. No, I mean, this is like one of like the most surprising tangents we've ever gone on trash taste. I swear I've mentioned I like candles before. No, you've never, you've never. That's why we're freaking out. Neither are on trash taste or in real life.

This is real life, Joey. Also, it's great, you know, you can, I'm easy to buy a gift for you can just buy me a nice can't. I wish I fucking knew that. Just got a nice candle. Because every time I'm like, well, shit, he has everything Jojo related. I literally can't get him anything. anymore. But now I know you like candles, so I'll just get you a fucking candle.

Give me an expensive candle. Nice one. Don't get me a cheap. Yeah, but now you have to get a candle that impresses him. Yeah, it's right. Never right. Don't get me, I don't like candles that are like carved into shapes. That's a load of nonsense.

You're just tacking on value. Get me a good candle, you know what I mean? Like, I just, yeah, I mean, there's a lot of nice candles out there. Shout out to the local candle makers in your area, if there is one, you probably make good candles, you know? What do you guys think of, like, scented soaps, like, homemade soaps. Oh, God, I know what you're gonna say.

I mean, I mean, I'm only mentioning this is because, like, Sydney recently really got into making custom-made soaps. And, you know, they, honestly, honestly, I'm kind of sold. They, I like the smell. They look good. They look aesthetic. The only problem with, like, custom-made and scented soaps is that they look great when you just get them. When they're, like, a square, when it starts to melt.

When it's, like, a square block, it looks so aesthetic. It looks great. And then you use it for, like, two weeks and, like, shit's falling out of it. Like she puts like fresh flowers in it and it looks fucking amazing. Until the flowers start fucking fording off and falling in the sink. I really like the hard soap.

I don't know when I started preferring it to like the pump soaps. The hand soap. Hand soap and body. I like I like the bricks. Oh, I don't like the body soaps. You don't? No, no, no. I feel like it really gets on your body.

I feel like it really deep cleans you as opposed to like the liquid soaps that you get. It depends. What I love about liquid soaps is that it feels like it just coats your body. I agree, but like the hand soap really gets in there and you can get some real nice sense. It just feels rough.

It just feels rough. No, that's what I like. It feels like, I've done-house never thought that deep. I feel like, Joe's just sitting here being like, I'm just like, doesn't wash my body, yes. And you can get like soaps with like, I'm going off on one today, aren't I?

You can get like soaps with stuff in them that is like little coarse material so that even when it's like you're going away, it feels quite coarse on the skin. I do like, if we're talking about so specifically, I do like the kind of charcoal sorts. Yeah, so it's kind of like scratchy against your skin. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So it really gets in your skin. Yeah, so you don't feel like you're losing grip as well. Yeah, yeah. I like, I like those because after you wash it off, you kind of feel like a cold freeze. Man, it feels so good. And it's like, oh, that's what a clean skin feels like. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, I feel like the liquid body soap, at least, is just because I feel like the sense stick for longer. Like I feel and smell fresh. I do like the classic dove body soap, that shit's, you can't go wrong with that. That's great man, that just lather that stuff on.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. In the onsets in Japan, there's like no limit to how many pumps you can do of the shit. Of like the shampoo and body wash, and I'm like, I take full advantage of that. Normally it's like, you do one clean over, right? In the fucking onsen, it's like at least three. I'm like, I'm like, it'll be like,

how much condition do I want? I'm like, don't stop. More, more, more, more. I'll do like 10 pumps of conditioner. I won't stop. I'm like, I want every, you know, conditioner sometimes doesn't feel like it gets in your hair. You know what I mean?

I never use conditioner normally. I don't really feel like it's necessary. No. But in the onsen, I'm like, every single like patch of hair that's left gets conditioned. And the body wash, I'm like, pump. Pump. Another area. Pump.

You literally turn into a fucking yeti in the onset. I'm just like, I wanna be fully soaked up. Yeah, of course, man. I'm like, I'm paying for it. It's part of the experience. Yeah, fuck yeah. They just see me like fucking slipping over because I'm so soapy, whoa.

Shit, I'm trying to get on this. Oh, love it. On the topic of cleaning products, at least, there's like one thing in Thailand, which my mom always buys, and I can't fucking stand it at all, and I don't know why she always buys it. Like, I feel like with toothpaste,

it's just universally known that there should be like, a bit alkali, and it's like maybe mincey, you know, most of the time, Minty. In Thailand, they sell salt-flavored toothpaste with like real, like with salt cubes in the toothpaste. And why? And it's the most abhorrent piece of like, why? Like, it's the most hard thing I've ever tasted and ever used at all. What? Why? Why would you put something that dries your mouth out? What? I'm so confused. I'm serious. Thailand. I don't know if it's only Thailand, I just know it's like readily available,

like fucking everywhere in Thailand. And my mom always fucking buys it. Just imagine in the factory, like, right, so we're gonna make the toothpaste, gonna put the salt in, what? What? What? Whops?

Toothpace is one of those things where I firmly believe you have to get a branded toothpaste every time. You know when you go to hotels and you have that like toothpaste? Like the tiny white chair. Yeah, yeah. And it just tastes like you've just put foam on your teeth.

You're like, I don't feel like my teeth got clean. Give you some aqua fresh or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know why. I don't know if this is great branding, but I feel like, it's just one of those products that I'm like, I need to get brands. No, I'm the same.

It's also not that much more expensive. I want like a brand that I know as well. But I'm like, I've used that before. I've seen that in commercials. Yeah, that works. Some aqua fresh, give me some cold game. Some Oralbee or something. Yeah, something that feels like it's doing something.

Yeah. Because sometimes, especially in the hotel ones, they give you like that fucking tiny little. The white one, right? The white one, right? And like, it's meant to last you two brushes because you do one in the evening and one in the morning.

That shit barely last one. Why do dentists tell you to use like a little bit? I want to go in on my teeth. Yeah, right? Because you're only supposed to use like a P, right? Yeah, when I do that, I'm like, I didn't do anything. Do you guys floss? No.

No. Is this an American thing? Mainly. North American thing. Because I don't know a single person in my life who flosses, I think. I'm like, it's something that a dentist always tells you to do, but I don't think I've like... The dentists in the UK don't tell you to floss unless you ask them, should I floss?

And watch, upon which they will say, but they won't tell you to fuck. I'm contractually obliged to say yes. It's like, it's not, I don't know why. It's, yeah, it's one of those things that America, there's North America is just, it does. I just can't be fucked. Honestly, it's a lot of work.

Like, I just wanna get in there, brush my teeth, yep, it looks clean. Ha ha, British, isn't it? It's brush your teeth, you've got terrible teeth. Yeah. That's the meme they always say when you tell them you don't floss,

but it's literally just outside of America doesn't do it. I don't know anyone in Europe who flosses. It's not common. No. You don't really see it. in stores either. You have to look for it. It's kind of a specialized item.

It's not just on the shelves. Yeah. But some people do it. I know some people who do, but it's very much of your own discretion to do it. Yeah. It's not something that's taught to you to do. Yeah.

This is like a random tangent that I'm just gonna throw out. Like since we're on like the topic of sense and on sense and stuff like that, how do you guys feel about massages? Cause I don't know if it's because I'm Thai and when I think massage, I think Thai massage. I can't fucking stand massages.

Really? Yeah. You don't like it? I like, sometimes I'm just like, sometimes you get a massage and I'm just like, why did I pay someone like fucking, why did I pay someone just to beat the shit out of me for an hour?

Like, I feel like I'm not old enough to enjoy them yet. Yeah, I feel like I haven't got- I feel in 10 years time, I'll really love it. I feel like I'm still at that age where I'm just worrying about every single aspect of the massage when I'm there. I'm like, what if they tickle my feet? You know, what if, what if I'm,

what if I'm, oh, what if I'm, while they're massaging me? You know. What did you just, What kind of massages you're going to? Well, you know. What if they, what if they, they think my body's ugly, you know? All these things are very, you know, because I had one where I had to, like, you know,

we have to take off your shirt and stuff. I'm like, oh, gosh. But you have to, right? Sometimes you have to be nude, right? Yes. In some massage places. I'm just not at that age where I can appreciate it, yeah. Also, to me, it's like, I don't know.

My body isn't, like, sore enough that someone massage. Me feels good. It feels good, but it doesn't feel like worth the like hundred bucks you pay. Right, exactly. I mean, like, I hear stories because like, and this has happened to me as well, where you go for massage and like, it's so fucking hard

that you just like tears start coming out. And people wear like a badge of honor, like, oh man, I went to this massage and it hurts so much. I started crying and I'm just like, you paid for this. Why would you pay someone to like tear your ligament? Like that just doesn't make sense to me. But again, like, I feel, you know,

when I get to like my 30s and 40s, when, you know, naturally your body is gonna start to deterior where it's gonna start to get sore, that's, I feel the point where I'll be like, fuck, I go for a massage. But as of right now, it's like, if my body's sore, I'll just do a couple stretches. I just feel like, you know, when I go to these massage things,

I'm like, even though I'm sure they're trained, I'm like, I feel like you just, you're just beating the shit out of me. I feel like you're just beating the shit out of it. I feel like you know, I wanna question the training authority just gave you this approval to do this. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like honestly like especially like I don't know how people can go to massages for like two, three hours Like it's I feel like you need to know someone who knows the best parlor because I've had it in hotels before Oh hotel massages are the worst I just thought like this is just weird I just didn't like this I felt like I felt like someone called you up you reluctantly showed up and now you're just beating the shit out of me I feel like you had no appointment scheduled today And I'm the asshole who scheduled one appointment today and you came in on your day off and now you're beating the shit out of me for it and you I'm not saying you have to enjoy it. I don't want you to enjoy it,

but I also don't want you to fucking hate me for getting a massage, you know? I paid money. I don't wanna feel like I'm not, I'm being his debt. What do you guys feel about saunas? I fucking love saunas, bro. I am a weak little baby when it comes to saunas.

My God, like every time we go to a nonsense and we sit there, like a minute passes, I'm like, I'm done. Because you're doing, everyone does saunas wrong. No one goes in the water before they go in the sauna. What do you mean? You have to go in the cold water before you go in.

I just think I'm very, very sensitive, or not sensitive, I'm like, my... No one enjoys going in the cold water, it's fucking awful. No, no, I'm not talking about the cold water, I'm talking about heat. Yeah, if you go in there, after just going in the onsen, when your body's already at like 37, 38 degrees fully heated up,

yeah, it's gonna be hell. Go in the cold water, then go in, and you'll be able to do it perfectly. No, because I just feel like, you know, whenever we go to the onsen, I'm always the one who goes into the, even the water, the least, just because like, I can't sit,

or I can't like, my tolerance to being in hot places or like sitting in a hot place for like a long time is just fucking shit. Did you go in the cold water gone? I don't know. Did you go in the cold water? What? This is important.

Okay. Did you go in the cold water? No, I didn't. There you go. Wait, wait, you go in the cold water before you jump in the onset? Before the sauna, sauna. I'm supposed to go in after the sauna?

You can after and then go back in. Ah. Fuck that. But like sometimes sometimes you're going to an onsen and it's just like way too hot. I don't know. Like that's why I jump in the cold water. To me, to me, that, it's to me,

it's meant to be a relaxing experience. And I shouldn't need to like, like, do a compromise to have a relaxing experience, you know. Yeah, I don't wanna like, you know, give myself pain on the opposite end of the spectrum. I wanna be comfortable, you know? I'm not paying to give myself an ice bucket challenge. You know, you fucking do that for charity, man.

Yeah, sorry, I was Googling, so I was like making, I was like, I swear, There's like health benefits to going in the cold sauna after especially when you heat your body up. It's like, there's amazing health benefits. No, no, I know like saunas have health benefits, but it's like- When you get out of that cold water after going in the sauna as well,

God damn does your body feel good. Oh yeah, I'm sure. That's like, you know, that's like saying that there's a health benefit, which I'm sure there is to taking a cold shower in the morning, but I'm pretty sure. But I don't want a cold shower in the morning. Next time we go through with that or like trained in the fucking knee

TV seals. Next time we go to the onsen, please, jump in the cold water after, I swear to God, you'll feel amazing. After the sauna? After and before. Okay, I'll go in, I've gone in after the sauna because that's what you're supposed to do,

and it feels fucking great. You go in before as well. Before, dude. Because then you go in the sauna and it's heating your body up, it feels very nice. I just don't, you can last much longer. I just don't enjoy saunas. It's because in Japan, they suck, right?

Every time I went in Europe, it was like, you're in the sauna, TM with the boys, you know? You chat and you laugh and you have a good time. in the sauna, you talk. In Japan, it's like, it's like a- You're not allowed to talk in the sauna. Yeah, it's like an interrogation room, no one talks. It's just like, everyone's just sitting there,

and it's like really awkward. And I feel like sauna is where the camaraderie should come out with you and the boys, man, you've just been skiing, you've been out in the snow, whatever, I don't know where the fuck you've been doing. But you talk in the sauna, you laugh. That's me, that's us in the onsen though.

That's where the onsen comes in. You could do it in the onsen with less pain. Yeah, but that's how you get through the sauna as well by talking with the boys. Get through the sauna. Yeah, because all, if you Think about being in the sauna, you can't say in the sauna. If you've never been in the sauna,

I mean, you can't really relate to this, but yeah, it's a very hot room. What you need to explain what a fucking sauna is? Just a hot room, hot room. A really hot room. What do you think of like saunas versus steam rooms? I prefer sauna. What's the difference?

A sauna is like dry. Oh, right, right, right, right. It's like 90 degrees. Yeah, steam room is just like Japanese summer simulator, basically. Oh, fuck that, no. Soanas are way more common, but, uh, steam rooms are similar,

but I don't think so. The steam room sounds horrible. That's not that bad actually. But I hate the humidity. Well, I'd stick to you sweating. Right, and I hate that. It's nice though when you- I've been first steam rooms because it feels like it takes longer

before I sweat in the sauna. It feels good to sweat, basically. That's why you sit in the sauna, right? Steam room just like, it makes that process a bit faster, so I have to stay in there for a shorter amount of time. I just feel like I get like a relaxing sensation that I just can't get anywhere else other than the sauna cold water combo.

Nothing like it relaxes me. Have you tried taking a 40 minute shit? That's, uh... I thought you guys are like a Xanax or something. I was like, no, I don't know. I haven't gone. Melatonin? You know, it's so nice.

If you're scared of it, just, just do one leg in at a time, just slowly get in there and just poof. Yeah, you just, I feel like you can't do the one leg at a time. You just got to jump in. Be careful though, you can go into shock from doing it. Yeah, right? Yeah, that's what I'm scared of. You just have to, that's why you shouldn't,

sometimes you shouldn't jump in. It depends on how hot you are and how easy you get lightheaded. Yeah. I think I nearly went to shock one time when I did it. Jeez. I jumped in and my heart was like,

and I was like, I just like calm down, but, oh shit, spat. I'd like calm my body down because I felt like I was gonna go to shock. Oh, it's terrible. Because your chest goes super tight if you do it too fast. Yeah.

I mean, you're basically experiencing hypothermia. Well, you're going from 90 degree room to 20 degree water. that like submerges your body instantly. So you need to be careful. But it is really fun. Just be careful. It could be a shock, but it's bad, isn't it?

Some of the best things in life are, you know, very worrying. Yeah. I mean, it's, yeah. That's a quote. I mean, like, I remember like this, there's like the fucking, a way to onsen, I remember us going there.

We need to go for it closes. Huh? Yeah, we need to go for a close. Might be closed by the time this episode comes out. Yeah. But like there are some things which I'm, I'm, fucking, I'm, And Vince is just... We should talk about the onsen actually before we go into the onsen.

What do you mean? About Oedo Onsen, which is being shut down in Japan. Oh yeah, should we talk about that now? So yeah, unfortunately, Oedo Onsen, which is probably the best onsen in Tokyo. The first onsen we went to. The most touristy, at least. Yeah, the first one that Jerry took us to

is closing down. It's not because it's not got enough customers. It's not because of COVID. Because of this weird Japanese law where you can't lease land more than a certain amount. Because they were literally renting the land. And it's expired.

And it's insane, right? It's just amazing, beautiful onsen in Tokyo Bay, right? Yeah, in Aldeba. Like, it's right opposite the fucking Gundam as well. Literally right next to the Gundam. So it's the perfect day trip because- It's amazing. Yeah, because you go there, you go view the Gundam,

you see a fucking giant mecca and it's absolutely incredible. And then you just go chilling an onsen with the boys. And it's, right? This onsen is unlike any other. There's like a whole summer festival area that is permanently there where you can do a bunch of summer activities.

There's restaurants in the onsen and once you get through, you can scan it with like this kind of like watch-esque thing. Yeah, that's rubber band. Yeah. You can get beer, you can get a full meal. That's delicious. You can get, it's amazing.

There's so many different baths. There's an outside bath as well. There's a sauna as well. Yeah. And like there's a salt bath. It's honestly one of the most amazing onsense. There's like a little like outside garden area. Yeah, yeah.

You could spend all day there because have you talked about like the middle area where it's just basically. Yeah, the summer festival area. Yeah, the summer festival where you do everything that you've seen in every summer festival anime. You literally, you don't even have to go on the bars to enjoy yourself.

There's like an arcade there. There's like... Good ice cream, the hot milk, cold milk. Yeah, there's plenty of Izakaya. You can get beers, you can have a full meal. Like it's, it was amazing and it's a shame that it's shutting down because I don't really know any onsen that's like, like that.

Yeah, especially in Tokyo. Is it shutting down this year? It's sunk down in September. Yeah. Oh, fuck. I think, so I wanna go one last time. So I think by the time this is airing, it's probably gone.

Shit, it's probably gone by the time this. Well, it might be close, I think it might be like a week or two away, so, RIP, but yeah, it's an amazing onsen, I'm very sad to see it go. Yeah, September 5th. September 5th. So what were you saying, sorry?

Yeah, so talking about the onsen area, so there's this area, we've just biged it up, right? But there is this area in an onsen, right? Where it's like a little stream that you can walk through, that's meant to massage your feet. There's massaging your feet and then there's just walking on pebbles,

like being in like some of the most pain in your life. Yeah. And calling that a relaxing experience. What about that is relaxing? I can't take a single step in that stream. So, so this. It's like lots of little like fucking goblins and just fucking doing this on the bottom of your feet

like every step and I'm like, this is not relaxing. Yeah, yeah. So they have this little stream, right? And it's like, it's like, People walk on it and it's kind of like an endurance test, right? It's kind of like, you know, you know when fucking, like, monks like test their endurance by walking on coals? That's what it felt like, because it is pretty bad.

Because you have like, you have like little pebbles that are just like sold it into the grounds that just stick out and it's just like you're meant to walk on it and it's meant to massage your feet, right? And it hurts so much and the stream goes on forever. Yeah. It's like 200 meters long. Yeah.

It's not that long, but it's pretty much. It's pretty long. It's pretty long. But then at the end of the stream, there's this little like service you can do where you can get lots little tiny fish to eat the dead skin off your feet. This is common in a lot of countries, right?

Some countries do this a lot. Yeah, Tyndt has them as well, but it was actually like, so I tried it for the first time with you guys. Yeah. And I still, I think I still might have the video of us trying it for the first time. If we have it, we'll play it.

I, it's so rare in life that you try something and you feel a sensation that you've never felt before in your life. And that was me, like, feeling like the hundreds of little fish just eating the dead skin. It was just, like, having hundreds of, like, mini electric shocks on your feet. And I remember when I first felt it,

it felt like the most uncomfortable thing I'd ever felt before because I'm just like, what is this sensation? I've never felt this before, ever. And then... There's a service, actually, I found in Okinawa the last time I went, because, like, there was another one in, like, a mall, where they had the little fish.

So I did it because I think it feels really fucking nice. And then the guy was like, oh, there's a, if you go down the road, there's a service where you can do that with your whole body. I don't want to do that. You can literally submerge your entire body all the way up to your neck and just, you just stand there and the fish will just eat your whole body.

There are certain areas. No, I didn't. There wasn't doing it, but I was like, fuck, I kinda wanna try. There are certain areas of my body that I'm just like, I don't want fish coming anywhere near this area, man. Eating the skin off this one? No, thank you, thank you.

Yeah, I'm sure like, you know, maybe, we probably wear pants and stuff like that so that, you know, your privates are kind of covered up, but still like, I would hope so. Could you imagine like the little fish just like getting like under your arms and like on your back and shit like the fucking nipple man.

It's like, oh! Probably need one of those like nipple connectors, you know? Probably have to wear like nipple pads or something. Wear a bra. Yeah, wear a bra or something, I don't know. No, they'll like sneak in through probably. Yeah, probably. Have you guys about like a spa day

or like gone to like spas? Winning me, by yourself. I haven't gone by myself. By myself. Have you been by yourself? Have you been by yourself? I mean like sometimes you go to a hotel and like Sydney just goes for like a spa day

and I'm just like I'm just like, you know what? I don't really like spa days because that's like, that's like three hours of my life that I could be doing relaxing, doing something else. Self care, gone, self care. Is it self care though? Yeah, it is it self care? How much more of a bed?

benefit does it do health-wise, you reckon? No, I don't know, just, I mean, it's, if it, you know. Or is it purely just like a mental thing? Stress is a big killer, right? So if you can- That's what I mean, is it purely a mental thing? Well, yeah, because it's a, it's a mental distress, but like having your body like beaten up or massage.

That's not, that's not relaxing for you. So some people, it's very relaxing to have that, you know. I tried a once, actually, when we were staying at a hotel with Arki, and he's like, come on, just try it, just try it once. And I'm like, all right, fine, I'll try it once. I wasn't, it was like three hour course, and I was like, I was the fuck say, it's three hours of my life gone. And I did it.

And I was like, all right, you know what? I won't do that again, but that was, that was relaxing. That was my blood pressure until I see the price. How much? 400 bucks? Fuck! The stress comes right back. That's the second reason I don't like doing spa days. Well, Alice came with the deal.

Oh, yeah, so it's like, oh, it's free? Fuck, yeah, I'll do it. Yeah. And I was like, it's good, but like, if I had to pay 400 bucks for it, no. Yeah, I could never dedicate more than an hour to something to doing something that's meant to be. I guess, relaxing. And I didn't even experience like two-thirds of it

because I was asleep. I literally woke, I literally fell asleep while they were giving me a massage and then two hours later they were like, all right, you're done. And I was like, oh, good. That was a great experience. I did fall asleep at a massage once, actually.

I just don't remember anything that happens. Well, clearly, you were asleep? Yeah, you were asleep, right? I just felt like I wasted money because I just fell asleep and worked back up. Yeah, right? But like, I mean, that's kind of the point, right? Either you fall asleep

or you get beaten the shit out. And you feel apparently better afterwards. I feel like I don't, when I fall asleep, I was like, I don't remember anything. Was it worth it? I don't know, I don't really feel more relaxed. I just slept in the middle of the day. Right, you could have done that in your hotel bed, right?

Yeah, honestly, that's what I prefer to do. I prefer just browsing my phone, my, because the thing, the thing about the spa days is that you're kind of forced to do nothing. Yeah, wait, what do you wanna do on vacation? What do you wanna do? What's your ideal vacation? I think we've said this before, right?

But I just don't wanna do anything. I just wanna sit my room. I like that a lot of the time. I like, you know, I want days where I explore, but I also want days where I just sit in the room and do nothing. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. Appreciate the room's facilities.

Yeah, and just relax. My optimal thing is to just walk around town and just find good things to eat. Honestly, that's like the best vacation. If I don't have a good meal to look forward to, vacation room. Or vacation, I eat like four meals, five meals a day. Oh yeah, of course.

I just turn into just an absolute glutton. Yeah, of course. I'm like ice cream after every meal, don't mind if I do. But then my idea for it is like, yes, I'm eating a lot, but I'll walk it off, I'm walking off. I'm like, yes, I'm eating a lot, And I like it.

Yeah. Like, like, I- Like, I remember, um, in the camping trip that we went on, uh, I remember like the first night. So the first time we went to, uh, went camping. It was fucking typhooning. Yeah, right?

So we're like, like, we, we, we really tried to camp, right? We were just like, we'll, we'll fucking, a little bit of rain never hurt anyone. We'll try. We get there. It's fucking typhooning. It's like, it's like a full on monsoon. The campsite's flooded.

The tree is like 90-degree. The trees is 19 degrees. And Nabi wearing his Jurya-Camp shirt just goes, guys, I don't think we can do it. I wish it was a special so that we could film it in the comments be like, no, mate, just get your fucking axe out and start putting the tent down. You got it, you got it.

You could have done it, mate. You're just little bitches. Yeah, so we find this Rio Can to go to. And, you know, it was a decent enough Rio Can, you know. I mean, how can you complain? He had a nonsense and everything. Until the point that we needed to figure out what we were going to eat.

And I'm just like, cool, I'm on holiday. We're gonna, we're gonna find a, we're gonna, we're gonna find a restaurant, right, guys? But unfortunately, we didn't have lunch, right? So it was like, it was like this, it was like this awkward time period of, if, like. This is how you can tell you're raised in cities only. You just didn't have to worry about where you were eating.

Yeah, yeah, because we got there, it was like, like an awkward time because none of us had lunch and it was like about three, about three o'clock, right? So it was too late for lunch, but too early for dinner. So we were just like, let's get a little snack at a, at the combine. right and so we we walk we walk 15 minutes to like the nearest comedy is like maybe it was 10 minutes

and we were just like oh let's let's buy let's buy some drinks and let's buy some snacks and um and i remember thinking cool this is just going to be a quick lunch it's uh you know we're just going to get some snacks there and then we'll go to the restaurant later yeah right and then i remember i remember on our way back right we were just i was just remember uh the guys had gotten like a full-on meal and stuff like that and i was like uh we're going out to the restaurant again right we're going to find a restaurant for dinner, right? And it was just that fucking Padme meme asking Anakin where we get back to the hotel

and everyone starts eating and everyone's like full and I'm just like, we're going out again for dinner, right guys? Right? And then it finally hit Gant when you heard just the crack of the beer can open. It's like, all right, we're not going. Like I was ready to like, it was a great time with the boys and everything,

but I was ready to rate that trip zero out at 10 because I'm just like, I feel like this is vastly, someone did not prepare a well. This should have been a conversation that happened. Are we having dinner or not? Are we doing it now? Are we getting Combeini? This feels like someone fucked up.

No, no, no, someone definitely fucked up. You all fucked up. But, you know, but then we had- The moment we, it was like, you know, 1 PM, I'm like, all right, now I have to think about dinner. What are we doing for this? I got a great fucking camping trip, but I won't forget day one of my holiday.

I had Combeene for dinner. Combeene food for dinner. On my holiday. And we fell asleep at like 8 p.m. What? No, correction, correction. Joey fell asleep at 8 p.m. Because I got shit-faced.

I had like seven beers in like the span of an hour. And I'm like, I'm on holiday, whatever clock, clock, clock. Joey cracks open the beer and I'm ready for dinner. And Joey's fucking, I see Joey's feet. And I'm just like, well, what the fuck is guy like? Joe, we're going for dinner, Ryan. Joey's just fucking having a snooze right there. Yeah.

Yeah, because Aki called me the 11 p.m. Because you and Luke. Yeah, because Aki legitimately thought I died. Because I just fell asleep at 8. It's like, why is you not responding to my text? I'm on vacation, don't text me. Yeah. That was a great first day.

I don't know about you. It was a great first day, had a good talk with the boys, but my God, there's that hole in my life. No, I will never forget. But the problem is as well that like all of the restaurants were also closed because it was, I think it was a public holiday when we went. So like all the rest, at like 4 p.m.,

all the restaurants are closed. So we're like, well, fuck. Yeah, and Wells, you can't just turn to a restaurant. There's never any restaurants. Yeah, you'd be very lucky. Now we know for next time. You did to get a Tesco meal deal. Maybe one day,

advance or, you know, make your own food. I just got to book a, book a family mart. Camping in, like, England is just assumed that you make your own food. Like, you've, it's a given. No, we were gonna do that. Yeah. Until it started a fucking typhoonie. In the car, mate, you gotta do what you can.

It's just start firing a car. No one's gonna notice. Fair. Yeah, you can't do it in a rental car, man. That's their problem, mate. You got insurance on the car. It's like, don't worry about it. It's been smoking, no worry about it.

I wanna smoke some meats in my car. I'm smoking some meats, especially if it's a rental car. It's not my car. I'm shaking. Okay, give me a toilet access? All right. P.S. don't smoke meats in car. That is a joke.

You shouldn't smoke in the car. I'll go to that one. Yeah, and Abby showed us. Oh shit, why did I do that? So there's something about going out of the UK and Australia, right? It's, I think we've talked about this briefly before. But it's, it's the first time I've ever had a culture clash,

or not a culture shock, I should say. Right. It's always related to like, whenever you go on a trip with some people from another country, and you've got to decide how much alcohol are you gonna buy? Because for, it's, it's like, you get such a weird spectrum,

depending on who you go with. And you just never know, but for some reason, with Brits and Australian, it's always like, you always have like an agreed amount that everyone, everyone's just like, we should buy more, right? Yeah. The way you do in the UK is,

what was a reasonable amount of beers you were drinking a day? Yeah. And add 50% on. Yeah. And then that's your portion of the beers. Yeah. Because, you know, maybe someone drinks a little more than they expected.

Maybe you drink more than expected. If not, you have more for tomorrow. Perfect. A beer will never go to waste. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So buy more. Yeah, exactly. Because of like the first time, the first time this ever happened to me

when I was just like, shocked, right? Was because like, you know, I understand when, you know, some people don't want to drink alcohol, that's completely fine, right? That's, I'm just like, cool. But the first time he actually surprised me was, it was my first American convention. Right. And we were going to hang out of a friend's place, right?

It was just a group of us, and it was me and one other person, and I was like, we should get some beers for back home. And I'm just, and he's just like, great, good idea. I need a beer, right? So we go to the fridge, right? And I go in and I take out a six pack of beer, as you do, right? As you do, if you're going to take some beer back for home, then you take a six pack of beer.

Get some extra. Yeah, and he, he follows me, walks in, grabs a single can of beer. And then I just, I just look at it. I just look at him and I just go, what's that? He goes, it's my drink for the night. I was like, are we drinking or are we drinking? I thought we were going to drink alcohol. Are we drinking or are we sipping?

He was like, yeah, we are we're drinking. I was like, how long is I going to last you? He was like, oh no, this is my drink for the night. When I say I could go for a beer, I don't mean a single fucking beer. And I was just like, yeah, we were going to go for a beer, right? Who stops at a single? beer. Did I need to be more specific?

I could go for a six pack of beer. And I remember the second time this happened to me was the camping trip actually. Right. Do you remember when we were, so in camping, you have one opportunity to buy everything you need for the night, right? So that shopping trip, you've got to think about

the entire stay that you're there, right? Because you're not going to have another opportunity. Because we weren't exactly in the city. Yeah. And the shops there are only open for a set amount of hours. It's like 40 minutes away. Yeah. So we're getting the food and everyone agrees,

oh, do we have enough food? Maybe you should get some more food. And like we fill out this shopping cart full of food, right? And then the alcohol discussion comes along, right? And it's, it's, it's, uh, me, Joey and Luke, who's from Northern Ireland. So, you know, we were just like, let's get a, let's get a crate of beer. Of course. Right.

And how many people were on the trip again? There were six of us. There were six of us. So like a single crate of beer. In my mind, a single crate of beer to last. Six people. Well, how many, how many, how many beers are in this? 24. 24.

Okay, okay. So it's a 24 pack of beer. Now, a 24 pack of beer to me for six people are like, it's not enough beers to last the entire like day potentially. Yeah, and like the night. If we're counting, we're probably day drinking. Exactly.

That's like on average four cans of beer per person. Like that's not gonna last a day. Are these 330 mils as well? Yeah, like the standard can. Yeah, yeah, that's too small. Far too small, right? And like, like, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I grab, two pints each. Yeah, exactly.

Like, that's not going to be enough. I grab a single pack of, like, I, I grab, I grab a, uh, pack of beer. Yeah. With the assumption that, okay, this is where we start, right? And I remember, I remember I was going to put it on the shopping car and, uh, because we, we would agree that we were going to drink this trip, by the way. Of course. It was something that we would agree to. Yeah. And I remember I, uh, I bump into Edo, right?

And he sees the pack of beer. And he's like, oh, we're going for a hard night, are we? I'm just like, I know, what the fuck? This is the minimum. This is the minimum. This is the start. This is the start. I remember going to the shopping car and I remember putting the pack of beer on there

and I'm like, so we're getting more now. So we're getting more, right guys? And it was the fucking pad made me him right again where everyone's like, I don't know. I don't know. I remember when he said that I did like the family guy like slow head turn. I was like, you what?

You didn't least double that. This is beer, right? Yeah, so after that, I'm just like, I take Joey and Luke to a quarter and we're like, it's like, emergency meeting. Hey, guys, emergency meeting. I don't think we've got enough alcohol with us. And so we're like, well,

we kind of don't wanna look like alcoholics like in front of our mates. So let's not buy another pack of beer, whatever. Let's just buy some spirits and wines. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's get like some box wine. If you're with a crowd or you're like, I don't wanna scare them, I'll just get a spirit.

Because the bottle doesn't scare them. When they see like the mountains of beer cans, are like, oh God, oh God. It's a hard night. Yeah, yeah. When you, you know, in reality, it's probably one bottle of Smirnoff or a bottle, right? One party animals we are.

Yeah. How long did the 24 crate last year? Like three hours. Did you run out? Well, if we didn't buy another one. Oh, you should put another one? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and it was mostly me, Joey and Lou.

Yeah, yeah. I'd say between three people, maybe a 24 pack is good enough for a full. Right, right. Night of drinking, starting early, eating, talking all night. What I've realized is that how you need to like decide on like the alcohol amount

whenever you hang out with someone new, it's just like there's an alcohol amount for Brits and Aussies and, you know, anyone from the UK. And then there is just everyone else with the exception of like, unless there is an exception, right? I always bring way more than I need just because someone's gonna drink

way more than they said they were gonna drink. Right. And it always happens. And there's nothing worse than it being like, you know, 9 PM, like you're in front of the fire and then someone goes, hey, can I get another beer? And there's no beer. Yeah, because like, a lot of people just,

like, to me, that's just second nature. Because like, I think I, you need to buy more alcohol than is needed because nobody, like running out of alcohol when you wanna drink more is like the word, God, I sound like a fucking. Also, also, also. I'm just saying this out that. No, I agree.

I agree. There's no worse feeling. Also, you wanna be the bro who provides for the team, right? You know, oh, you run out of beers? You bought your own, bro. I got a few, I got a few. I gotta grab one, go grab one, bro. Yeah, that's not me.

Absolutely, don't worry about it. And I'm just, I've just kind of realized hanging out with people with different cultures, like that's the weird part. Because normally everyone's, everyone's keeps asking for more, and then you got to a point, you maybe run out. And some people are just completely fine with that. And I'm just like, when I am at like,

peak tipsy, I'm in the buzz zone. I do not wanna run out of beer. No, yeah, no, no, no. No, no, no. If I get fully sober before I sleep, I'm gonna sleep like shit. I need this. I need this buzz to keep going, man.

I need this buzz until I fall asleep, otherwise I'm fucked. I feel like shit, I wake up in the morning, feeling awful, help me out, man. I'm gonna down a bottle of water or two before I go to bed, I'm gonna feel great. Exactly, exactly. Oh my God.

So yeah, I mean, that's, the Alcoholics Anonymous podcast, right? Wow. I feel, I feel, just how it is when you're from Britain or, I think America can understand how ingrained is in the culture. And I feel it further accentuates when you're on a camping trip. Oh yeah.

I don't know what it is about, I don't know what it is about sitting around a fire where you're just like, man, I need a man. Camping is, you know, there's a reason why it's considered one of those manly activities. And because manly activities are normally judged by either how intensively they are, how intensive they are physically,

or how much beer you can drink during that. Fishing is considered a very manly sport because you can drink beer the whole time, while you're doing. You know what? Do you know why? I'm gonna say it. How the fuck can you enjoy these activities

if you're not drunk? No, that's the thing is that, is it hanging out with your friends camping to most people, yeah. Hanging out with your friends, cooking shit food, getting drunk, very fun. Yeah, awesome. Cooking bacon to a char and then giving it

to your mates and being like bon apple teeth. Like, that's amazing when you have a beer. What the fuck did you just say? Bon apple teeth. Bon apple teeth. Bon apple teeth. Bon apple teeth. Bon apple teeth.

Are you not heard that before? Have you not heard that before? No, I've never heard that before. Wait, what? Is that, it's a sub-bred, it? It's a sub-applete. It's a typically bonaple tea, but, yeah, Bon Appleteathees.

Okay. I thought he's made a genuine mistake. No, no, no, bone apple tea. I actually forget the original because I say the meme one. Bon Appetit. What is the original? Bon Appeteteet. I always say the mean one, so I can't.

Bone apple teeth. I always say burn apple tea. You never heard this? I've never heard of this. It's literally a subreddit where people have like, it's like a spelling mistake. It'll be like my autistic guitar or something

so it's acoustic. It's those kind of spelling mistakes. Oh, that one. It's very funny. You should watch it. Burn apple teeth. But yeah, I mean, you'll eat like terrible food that you cooked, but you cooked it with the boys.

Yeah. Like you think about fishing as an activity, right? and on paper. It's awful. It's awful. Everything that goes wrong could go wrong. You know, your hands are getting slimy when you get the fish.

Maybe you'll get a fish. Worst case scenario, you sit there for eight hours and nothing happens. You spent like an hour setting up a rod because you're shit and you don't know how to fish.

Maybe you're with the expert. He can teach you, but you tangle the line. Oh, it's a fucking nightmare. Everything goes wrong. What bait do I bring? I don't know. What kind of hook do I bring?

I don't know. I hate it. Tying the knot on the hook is such a pain in the ass. Oh, God. You've got to get the net out when you get a fish and then shit. When the glorious beer can comes out.

That's when it gets goo- That's when it's good. Well, that's what you buy, you have to buy the chair that has the beer holder. Exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah. See, I did that for the camping trip because I know eventually one of these days, we're gonna go fishing.

And I'm already prepared. Joey, don't pretend that, don't pretend like you plan this. I know, like, okay, so for the camping trip, Joey brought this fucking, like, massive fold-out chair. Like, normally like- A hundred dollar one? Yeah, yeah.

Jesus Christ, you don't need that. You're not sunbathing. Oh, I am now. It wasn't one of those ones where you can like easily fold up and like pack into a small pack. Yeah. Like it was like fucking rectangular. Yeah. Like I thought, because I thought most of the chairs

that I've bought that are like that, I thought it was the ones where you could fold like four ways into like a tube. But then when it appeared, I was like, why is it only folded in half? And I realized, oh, it's because there's two giant metal rods that are like keeping the entire thing together, that just won't bed.

Yeah. And I lifted it up and I'm like, why does this thing weigh 20 kilograms? It was like, it was somehow- He's like the Greek god of this camp site. Bring me another grape-a-gall. Honestly, honestly, the chair itself was like king shit. It was like, it was like a fucking,

it wasn't a chair. Every time I got up to like go get wood or go to the toilet, someone was always like, I'm sitting in the king's chair. Honestly, it wasn't a camping chair, it was a fucking throne, right? But like, don't pretend like you did that. You did that by complete accident because, you know what?

It was a fucking bitch to get in the car because we were going camping and the car was like, the car, it barely fit in the boot. Yeah, it was barely fitting. It was heavier than my bag full of all of my clothes and shit. It's a seven seat, and the chair took like. Two seats. Yeah, exactly. Well, you took one seat and took away two.

Yeah, exactly. Fantastic. I mean, Joe had a great time sitting down at the detriment of us driving there and having like less space. Oh yeah, to like sit. Worth it, worth it. Oh yeah, no one.

What the fuck is that? It has like a foldable like table on the side and like a like a colonial imperialist master. Oh yeah, yeah. Going to your new land. I was like some Game of Thrones shit dude. Like God. I felt so powerful.

Oh man. But yeah like like fishing, I don't know how you can enjoy without alcohol because most of it is just nothing. You're just sitting there. Yeah, you're just waiting. Yeah, it's waiting. That's why you bring the Nintendo DS or you just get drunk and talk. There's only two options.

It's the Switch now, I guess. Yeah, the Nintendo DS. Just play some Smash Bros while you're waiting for the fish. I mean, that's what you can do, man. You dig that pole in the ground and you start drinking. Exactly. Until you think you caught a fish and you're too drunk to realize. We still need to go fishing.

Yeah. Well, yeah, I'd like to go camping and do it properly. But it seems like in Japan, there's not many. there's not many good camping sites. They all seem very... They're very controlled. Very close together. Yeah.

It just seems like a shitty nightmare. Would you rather go fishing like off the bank or would you rather be in a boat? Uh, pretty off the bank, I'm just sitting in the chair. Off the bank, yeah. In the boat, you, you'd be very active when you're doing. I don't like, I prefer the boat. I know, there's got to be in a rowboat though,

not like a big boat. Oh, okay, no, not like a yacht. Okay, no, that's a rowboat. Like a row, no, fuck that shit, then. Why the fuck would I want to be in that, bro? Simulating I'm a, I'm like a broke fisherman? In Garn's head, boat equals yacht. Yeah, God was like, yes, I want to be on the Louis Vuitton SS3.

The Louis Vuitton SS3. That's the name of the boat. That's the name of my boat. There's the name of the boat. Yeah, I don't want to be in a robo. And I don't think Connor wants to be on a robo with me either. He'll fucking find a way to tip it. God will fucking tip the boats.

I mean, we've been on a rowboat together. I remember when we went to Kyoto and I just can't row for shit. I just can't row for shit. Yeah, and then Gant also just turns into like daddy long legs in this fucking thing way he can't just stand up properly and he was like having great difficulty. He's gonna tip the boat. He's gonna tip the boat any second now.

I wanted to see that. He stood up and he was just like, whoa. And that like, oh my God, please, God, please, please. Yeah, he was terrible at rowing. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what I was doing wrong. I don't know. I think he just kept putting it in

and then just pulling it out. You didn't just like row. I don't know. I'm just kind of like, you know, I feel like I'm like, you know, quack mire or something where he has like one arm stronger after he's like. Yeah, literally I just kept going around in circles.

We did go in circle. I'm like, what are you doing? In both, pull in both. We know which one Garne's fapping arm is. He just keeps going around. Oh my God. Rowing boat sucks though. Really? I enjoy it.

Not when the conditions that we were doing. Yeah. We were doing it in a Japanese summer. Oh, no, never mind. Well, the time I left, my back was like, that my shirt was a different color from the start. Yeah, that's not cool. The fall is really, really nice.

I was doing manual labor in the summer. I don't even do manual labor normally, let alone in the summer. And we were hung over as well. Oh, that doesn't help. I probably hate it to, that else case. Honestly, doing anything outside in Japanese summers is just like, nope, nope.

Let's just, let's just do an indoor activity. The weekly reminder, the Japanese summer sucks. We're gonna keep complaining about it until it's over. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I love winter. Winter.

Yeah, I don't know, man. I just don't understand people who just like this heat and this humidity. Psychopaths, man. Psychopaths. I get it, man. I mean, God, I felt so bad for the fucking Olympians, right? Like, we talked about this, but Jesus Christ. It's terrible.

Yeah. Changing the topic, though. Like, I feel like I've lived in Japan for long enough now that my opinions on certain things have changed. Some things which I initially thought. were amazing are now like, I don't think are as good as I in British originally. EG. EG. Wagyu beef, okay.

Remember the first time I tried Waggie beef? It's so over-praised. I'm just like, oh my God, this is the fucking rolls voice of beef. It's the fucking Ferrari of beef. And then you live here for a year and you have equal, you have easy access to it. And I'm just like, I just kind of want a normal rib-eye now.

I just kind of want a normal steak. Genuinely, normal steak is better, because Wagyu is just fatty. And if you like that, you like that. But if you want like a really nice tender cut of meat, it's just so good. Wagyu is good, maybe like, you know, once or twice a year, I think.

So if you really wanna like, I'm sure if Chris was here, he'd be, he'd be like, no, no, no, no, I know the best places. It's so. You're just going to the wrong places. When I went to Kyoto, right, with Chris, there was this stand, and we were kind of hungry, and the stand said there was Wagyu beef on a stick

like a thousand years. I was like, no way is that waggy. No fucking way. And they had this meat out on the counter, like this example meat. And I was like, all right, fine, we'll get it. We'll try it. We'll try it.

And so they have this example meat of what the meat looks like. Yeah. And it's like the fake kind. And so we order it. We pay the man. And he pulls out some meat from a cooler that is definitely not wagging. It's literally like the shittest cut of a beef you can imagine. Right, right.

Literally impossible to chew. A dog would have trouble. chewing this thing. Right. And I was like, Chris, I can't believe if you thought this was gonna be real. There's no way

we were gonna get Wagyu steak on a stick for 1,000 yen outside of the, for the fucking Kiyo Mizudero or whatever it was. Oh yeah, yeah.

Like at a tourist trap? Are you serious, Chris? I can't believe that he fell for it and then he convinced me to actually try it. What a waste of a thousand. We took like two bites and we can't eat this.

This is shit. We threw it away. Yeah. I mean, because like, I feel I had the better experience because like on Journey Cross,

We had that exact same thing in Takamatsu, and it was the Hidagu beef, which is like, it's like a higher brand Waii beef. That one was actually delicious. Because you're not in Kyoto, which is like, basically it's turned into kind of a tourist. Kyoto is a gamble. It's kind of, you can get some good stuff there,

but it's so over tourist, so, I don't know. You gotta, you gotta go, like, overrun with tourists. Yeah, you gotta go to like the back streets of Kyoto to get the good shit, I feel. Yeah, that's where like the proper, not in front of the goddamn temple to get Wagyu beef. No.

Yeah. Because I feel like Wagyu beef is something that you should try as like a rare thing, right? Because what I didn't expect was how easy it would be to access here. You can buy it in the fucking supermarket. Oh yeah, it's everywhere. Like it fucking blew my mind the first time I saw Wagyu beef in the supermarket

where the only other time I'd ever seen Wagyu beef is like at like fucking high end restaurants where you'd be paying hundreds and hundreds of dollars for a few keys of Wagyu beef. And I remember before coming to Japan, I'd only tried it once. And that was because I was like, had like a well-off friend who treated us to,

treated us to dinner once at a high-end restaurant. And I'm just like, oh my God, this is fucking incredible. And now I understand why they only give you a few cubes of waggy beef in like high-end restaurants, right? It's way too fatty. It's like eating pure butter, right? And I realize this when I'm just like, I think it was like, I think it like hacked my mind

to be like, okay, waggy beef is always good. I can't get bored of waggy beef. This is the, this is a five beef, right? But now I see Waggie beef and I'm just like, can I just get a normal cut of steak, please? The thing is that the normal cuts of steak here just aren't that good. Yeah, they're not.

You know, the best... Unless you pay like a good amount for it. Yeah, yeah, and the best sticks here, you get some really good steaks, but a lot of them are imported. And they're really expensive. Yeah, yeah. You know, you're paying an absolute premium for good sake.

And again, like, it's like, I feel Wagyu beef is a lot, like, you know, getting like the super fatty tuna, like, sushi. It's like, you can't eat that shit all the time. It's because you eat it every day. right that is good. I think I don't know how, I don't know if Japan did this intentionally or not, but it's definitely a branding thing. Oh yeah. Like Wagyu beef is very good branding. Yeah. I don't know how because it's all over the fucking place in Japan. You don't know what's Wagyu, what's can, what's constituted is Wagyu? It's like, yeah, it's not, it's like,

well, that every prefecture has its own Wagyu and they'll argue that the other one is shit and there's the best. Well, that's the thing. I feel that's the biggest misconception with Wagyu is that people, when people think Wagyu beef, they think like A5, Cobby, the best shit, right? But like Wagyu beef literally just means beef made in Japan. Yeah. Yeah. There's like, there's like low tier Wagyu as well as high tier Wagyu.

Yeah, and I don't know how, I don't know who, if Japan did this on purpose. I don't know if like, like, foreign chefs. It honestly might be the foreign chefs. That would have been foreign chefs being like, this is the best stuff, man. I don't know how-Wagu just sounds cool. When did it, when did it become a thing?

When did Wagyu beef become like, well-known in like outside of Japan and become like this kind of idolized beef? Yeah. Because I feel like that's how Wagyu is, command such high prices, especially outside of Japan, is because of the branding. Like, yeah, it is.

It's the same way, you know, I don't think, you know, when you eat, what's the fucking, what's the, that really fatty meat cold that you get? Huagra. Hoi gua. Huagra, the, I don't think it tastes that good. I do not, I think that's,

the duck liver. Yeah, I don't know how the fuck they've managed to charge so much for it. That is also just eating pure fat. I just, I eat it and I'm like, fuck me. I feel like, I feel, I feel, I feel, like a bit sick sometimes because it's very fatty yeah it is very very fatty and kind of

wagyu kind of feels the same off how do they convince us that foie gras was like a luxury item and that we should pay out of our pockets insane amounts for it when it barely tastes it's it's a fucking trek to make that's what you say that but then like you know uh we we like killed caviar to the point where we made them so extinct that we made them valuable yeah like caviar was never going to be valuable again like the only very very very very value of caviar comes from the fact that it's so rare. Yeah. Like, we've, we've made it.

Yeah. We've made it. Like lobsters used to be the cheap meat that, you know, they, right? They, uh, that the working class people used to run, right? And then I'm not sure why it increased in price. I don't, I don't know if like the corporations, like, um, because the working class.

Artificial. It's been overfished. Yeah. Was it overfished or did they artificially like, I believe it's been overfished. I don't. But it's a really interesting story. And I wish I, like, remember the detail of it.

But like, All I know is like lobsters was a really cheap meat until one day it just wasn't anymore, right? And then it wasn't. So like it's to show though, the price, you know, doesn't really correlate with good tasting food. I mean, you know, like I hate to shout out whales all the time, but you know, there was some really fresh local produce

that was so cheap, you know, and that was amazing. And I still haven't had better stuff anywhere else from like, you know, from there. And, you know, I don't want for a garage, I just want a nice, beautiful cut of meat fresh from the day. Yeah, and it's, yeah, like, Wagyu beef, I feel like, when I first moved to Japan, I could not understand why every steak,

like they marketed it as, like, imported from Australia. And I'm just like, why would you import beef when you have Wagyu here? And like, now living here for, like, almost two years, I'm like, I get it, I want a fucking Australian steak sometimes, Angus beef's a fucking dope. It's also, yeah, it's also, like, a very luxury thing. Like, there's a lot of,

they import a lot of beef from like Ireland and stuff too here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, England exports a lot of meat to Japan. Yeah, because like, if you're bored of Wagyu beef, then just the normal cuts of beef here just aren't as good as- Yeah, and like, you can play around a lot more with the seasonings on the normal, yeah,

on a normal kind of food. I feel with a lot of those kinds of foods, like Wagyu and like foie gras and stuff like that, it's all just like, like, a namesake, right? It's just, like, you know, I don't think anyone realistically fucking every, every, every week is like, oh, where's my foie gras, like, you know, it's like puff of fish, right?

Like, Fugu is also another thing where it's like, you, to say you ate it. Yeah. But like no one is like actually gonna be like, oh, Fugu is the best tasting thing in the wall. Spoilers, it's not. It literally tastes like nothing.

Like I've had it a couple of times and I'm just like, yeah, this is- But you're like, yeah, this is cool, I guess. I can say that I ate puff of fish, but it's like, Man, sometimes I just wish I was like a fucking dog, bro. You can give them the same meal every single day and they get hyped as fuck for it. Yeah, right.

Yo, is it time for the same meal again? Yo, you gotta be kidding me, let's go. Spoiling me. They get so high. for the same meal every time. Meanwhile, I have the same meal twice in a row and I'm like, I'm living like a pest. I had curry two days in a row.

What is this? I feel disgusting. You know, it's just like a thing that we did to ourselves as humans? Was there once a point in time where we were just happy to have the same meal over and over again? Oh yeah, I'm sure.

Why have we done this to ourselves? We probably were even as a kid, right? I remember what I could just eat Thai food every day. I'm my own ship. Never get, never get bored of it. Oh, you gotta be. Oh, my man, let's go. Put some salt on that.

Oh yeah, let's go. Change it up a bit, put some beans in that shit, let's go. And then like, I tried, I tried Japanese food for the first time. I'm just like, damn, I wanna try this again. I tried Mexican food for the first time. And like, fucking give me more.

My need of variation in tastes has skyrocketed since Japan. I get spoiled me because now, I used to be content just eating like fried chicken like four times a week. And I would be like, this is fantastic. Honestly, that's the second thing I think is overrated in Japan.

Fried-A-Gae. Yeah. Oh, well, Japanese don't really, I don't think they do fried chicken very good here. No. I think, I think the Koreans definitely do it better. Yeah, Korean fried chicken, yo. Yeah, I was going to say, man.

I, like, Americans think they, like, have mastered fried chicken. I'm like, no, the best fried chicken I've had is from Korea. Korean fried chicken, best in the world. I said down, okay. They season it? They don't go too overboard. It's not in America, you get way too much seasoning. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

In Korea, you just get, like, beautiful different variations of seasoning. The yang yon chicken is like, and it's not just, it's just, it's the perfect texture as well, where it's just like a little bit crispy. It's, it's, it's, you can't, like, it's the perfect, it's the perfect marriage. It's a little bit crispy and like the meat's not too wet. But also, yeah, it's not dry, I don't dry. It's just the perfect combination of everything you'd want

and a fried chicken. But also, not to doggone, like, fried chicken culture in London is amazing. We have such good fried chicken in London. I really? Yeah. That's why we have a whole, that's why we have a whole channel. That's why there was a whole channel at one point dedicated to reviewing fried chicken in London.

It's so very, bro. It's fucking way too greasy, man. No. You're going to the wrong plate. You're going to the wrong boss man. You're going to the wrong boss man. Oh, my God, you sound like Chris right now. He's gone the wrong places.

No, because London is so varied in the chicken shots. We were so close to having a podcast where we agree or never... No, no, no, it never happens. It's trashdust. You're so amazing, man. You get so amazing. Fried chicken in London is only amazing after you're fucking shit-faced. No.

You're going to... It's like people who defend kebabs. And I'm just like, would you ever eat a kebabs sober? No. You probably had a shit. No, there's a reason you're shit faced. You probably had a shit local fried chicken shop. The one underneath me was amazing. The way they seasoned the chicken, they did barbecue wings,

and I have never had barbecue wings as good as is in my life. They, they were so cheap, too. I don't know what they put in it. Probably like all god-awful chemicals. But that shit was amazing. I've never had barbecue wings that are as good as that. And it was like, it was like one pound for like eight, warring it, waringly cheap. But it was amazing. I saw that was chicken? Probably even wasn't. I don't know what it was, but it was the best wings I'd had. Jeez, no, I mean, like, to me, the best fried chicken I've had in the UK is KFC. Like, that's, okay, okay, it's, I'm not gonna say it's the best

because it's not, that's saying a lot. But it is very good in the UK. It is very good. It is very good. And like every fried chicken I've had in London or every chippy or whatever, is it feels like a downgrade to KFC to me. I feel like you guys do chicken pretty well.

KFC in the UK is by far the best KFC I've ever had. In Japan, it sucks. Yeah. Oh no, Japan sucks. In America is, it sucks. In America, it sucks. America, it's war crimes. Elsewhere, I assume it's just not as good.

Australia's a little bit overrated. I'm sure there's someone from some country that's like, yeah, but in this country, it's better, shit on. I haven't been there. So how would I know that? Yeah, we don't try KFC in every country we go to, unfortunately. Boneless or bone? Bone.

Boneless. Boneless, man. I'm a boneless kind of guy, man. I'm a boneless kind of guy. Get that bone out of there. If I can't eat it, get it out of my face. Sometimes I just don't want to go through the process of being like a fucking animal

and tearing this shit, limb from limb. I'm not, I just want to taste, though. Better. You're like, you're like trying to play Drew Maternal with this chicken. What are you talking about? You are full of shit. What are you talking about?

I don't want to rip this. If I gave you two plates, one of them came from a bone chicken, one of them came from boneless chicken, you would not be able to tell a fucking difference. You would not. I would. I would. Guarantee you would not.

You sound like mainly right now. The moisture, the moisture is there. It's more natural flavor of the chicken. No. It tastes, the texture is better as well. Everything is better on a bone chicken. You sometimes get the vaniest motherfuckers and pumping steroids into these chickens.

The only thing that is a detriment is the fact that is a bone chicken. But that's a, I will happily pay the price for a better tasting chicken. Okay, it's just, okay? And then like when you get to the ends, this shit does not wanna come off the bone. You have to like be like a feral animal

to get this thing off the fucking bone. It's just time wasting. I have to break my teeth. It is worth it for the better taste, okay? No, it's not because you can eat more, Way more chicken, you know, because boneless chicken is your chicken breast. Yeah.

It's amazing. No, it's not always chicken breast. Broan, oh, sorry, boneless chicken. Bono chicken is, yeah, it is always chicken breast. And the meat tastes the same on the wings. You know what? You know what? I don't think the breast is the best part of the chicken.

I think it is. Do you know what I like? I like moisture with my meat. And you can get a moist breast. The breast is like, you can get a moist breast. Are you kidding me, you can get a moist breast. No, you can't get the moist breast, right? But a lot like, a lot of the times,

You fucking, you cook a chicken breast and it can- Yeah, you're cooking it. You're cooking. No, no, no, no, no. You're gonna shit. No, no, no. My man's never did a bad job on the chicken, man. It was always fresh, perfect delicious.

Like, like, like- Sauce contained. Like, I've had enough chicken breast and random chippies and random places where just the breast is too dry. You can never get- Well, you're going to the wrong chippy, man. No, you can never get-

In London, I would never get a boneless chicken. They don't do boneless chicken well enough. Outside, that's, that's what I'm saying, right? Because, because you need to cook chicken breast rights in order for it to be good. But when it's done right, but you don't have to pay that gap. It's not even better.

It's not even better. You can go to any of the like Korean places here and they have boneless and boned. Always boneless. Because the shit is just better. You also get more of it because they don't, they don't try and fucking snack. You go to Nando's, what'd you get?

What do you get? Uh, I get like half a chicken. Yeah, why? Why don't you get the boneless, the boneless one when you go to Nando's? Oh, they don't do the boneless, do it? Yes, they do. I didn't even know they did that.

I would have got the bone. Well, now he knows, so he's gonna get the bones. Wait, no, no, no. Oh, actually, I joke. I don't get the half chicken. I get the butterfly burger, which has no bones. Because I don't wanna deal with bones. That is definitely drier than the half chicken.

That's why you pile on the sauce, baby. Oh, no, no. No, if they cook it right, though. They cook it right, because he doesn't eat the sauce. No, no, no, no. Nando sauce is the only sauce where I'm just like. No, because Nando's, man, it's a 50-fitty gamble on whether it's gonna be juicy or not.

It's up to the chef. The breast is always shit. The breast is always shit. It's totally up to the chef, man, and how he cooks it for passing, man. You don't need to pay you that gamble if you just get the half a chicken off the bone because you know what?

It's always juicy. No, it's good, it's good, but I don't, the butterfly chicken burger is just fine as well. This is the same thing. And then you can sauce it up. It could be better. It could be better. It's just fine.

I just think the Nandoz's a chicken is comfort food. It's not the best. Yeah, I don't expect five star fucking bone was chicken from Nando. That's exactly what's fried chicken is right? Ah, man. No, no, no, no. You don't go to a Michelin star restaurant

I've had, you know, I've been to Michelin Star Restaurants and I've had times where I just want the fried chicken more. Like, it's just so much better to me. I love a good fried chicken when it's done right. This man literally goes to this. Look, there's, I bash on America, but I feel like there's a very American side of me. Look, there's a reason why soup is made from the bones of animals, right?

And that's because the bones contain flavor. You're not eating the fucking bones. If I wanted to eat soup, I'll eat soup. If you're not eating the fucking bone marrow, gone. You're not cracking the bones. You're like, I don't go to the restaurant with you. Like, honey, you're gonna eat your bones. I'm gonna eat the bone marrow, bro.

Cracks it open, you know, like you're not the in the bone. You're not in the bone. The bone doesn't do it. This bone. The bone does do shit. It does. Oh my fucking God. I'm sure it does.

At a fast food restaurant, it doesn't do shit. I'm sure it does. They don't marinating it with the bone on it. I'm sure it does. If they marinate shit with the bone in, yes, the bone will have an effect. Look, look. But when you're at fast food,

they literally got that chicken in the van 20 minutes ago. And it's on your plate. There's no time to have the bone play in effect. You're just getting boned. That was awful. That was awful. I rest my case. I'm sure it does make your difference, but I'm not even going to.

It's not an argument. It makes a difference. I am not even going to pretend to start. I'm not even to start to pretend that I think I know the fucking difference. I don't. Do you have taste buds, Joey? Yeah. Do you have taste?

I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. And you do you have a tongue? You know what I taste? I'm so a man who doesn't like sauce.

I don't fucking trust a goddamn thing you say. I have taste buds and you know what I taste? Fucking chicken. I don't give a shit if it's from the bone or not from the bone. It tastes like chicken. All chicken tastes the same, Joey. All meat stays the same. It's just beef.

It tastes the same. It comes from the same animal. All beef tastes the same. All chicken tastes the same. No, it doesn't. All chicken tastes the same. Most parts of the chicken in terms of like the skin and the, you know, because the wing is just an extension of the breast

in terms of how the meat is. It's just a... The meat, the meat. I'm about to fucking leave. I didn't say that. The me, I don't take responsibility for that statement. The wing, the wing, the meat part of it tastes exactly the same as the breast.

That's why they can make boneless wings and call it wings. It doesn't taste any different. The only problem is with the bone is you get like veins and shit. And then it's like, I don't want that. Who wants the vein? Who's like, what the fuck is boneless wings?

The boneless wings, right? Right. Go to Buffalo Wild wings. you get at any of those places. All it is, it's just chicken breast cut up. Did you know that? To make it look like a wing. Yeah, to make it look.

No, because like, I've never gotten boneless wings because I'm like, what the fuck is boneless wings? So you've never tried it? I've tried boneless chicken. When? You said you never ordered it. No, I've never tried boneless wings, but I've had like, I've-. Boneless chicken, it's like a restaurant.

No, no, you get wings? No, no, when you get wings? No, but when you get wings, boneless wings, every time. No, no, you got to, it's off the, bone. Chicken is always taste better off the bone. It's less healthy for you. The only reason why people promote breasts is because it's the leanest meat, right? That doesn't necessarily mean it tastes better. The wing meat, like the actual meat that you're eating, taste no different from the breast. It's the moisture content. And it's, it's, it's the bone flavor that

seeps into the chicken sometimes. It just, it tastes better. Unless we're at a gourmet restaurant, I would, I would say that's invalid. Because, you know, these fast food restaurants, you know, and the place where you're eating wings from 90% of the time isn't gonna have the bone play any effect on the taste. I'm not gonna go to Buffalo while wings see a boneless chicken go, what the fuck is this?

Where's the bone? Okay, you have a KFC bargain bucket or you're a KFC bucket? Bones. Do you have preferences of which one, which piece you take? Because every piece tastes different. And if every piece of KFC chicken tastes different depending on the part of the chicken,

that it is. The only difference is that you get a different ratio of skin, surface skin, to like meat. And with the wings, with the drumster, you're the optimal skin to meat ratio. Yeah, I can't. Right, so you get more skin, so it tastes better.

Whereas the big, the big flat piece, what's called? What's it called? The big flat piece. What is it called, do you know? There's two pieces. There's the wing and then there's the other piece. Oh, like the one to say like that, right?

It's kind of like a big piece like this. You can just get more meat. Yeah. So you don't have as much skin. It tastes worse. The worst. Because there's less skin. Yeah.

No, it tastes worse because it's, it's just purely meat, right? There's not flavoring on it. I don't want fat on my chicken. No, you're confusing it because you're having more skin, which is where all the flavor is with KFC. That's why you think it tastes better because you're getting more bite of a skin.

How are you not seeing this? How are you failing to understand this, Garn? I literally don't give a shit when it comes to KFC. It's all chicken to me. It's all fucking chicken to me. It's all chicken. Bone or no bone, it's all chicken. Like I love boneless wings.

I love fried chicken burgers. I love the chicken selects a well, chicken tendies. Chicken tendies are fucking amazing. Chicken tendies are better than nugs, hands down, and wings with bones in them. Yeah, because they're not as well, nugs are like the part of the chicken

that nobody else eats, right? And they've repackaged it. But like, you know what? It's the worst tasting part of the chicken. Boneless, boneless is better than bones. You are so wrong on suck, you know? I'm no, I'm no, man. I'm just straight of right.

I didn't think freedom of speech was a mistake until I heard, until I just heard you speak about. Bro, you're a clown, man. Like, why are you making it more difficult to eat this and you're making more mess? You're the reason flat earth has exist, man. No, I'm not. Like, this is, this is like...

Isn't boneless just like nuggets? No. No, no, no. No. No. You're not in this conversation. Boneless nuggets, nuggets are like chicken extract. It's hardly a chicken. It's paste, you know?

Yeah. It's like, it's like polystyring with chicken tasting. Yeah. And chicken tennies are good. Chicken tennies are all. I think we're all in agreement. Chicken tennies are good. Yeah.

We're on agreement. I mean, off the bone chicken is always the best. That's, that is the best. Yeah, when it's taken off the bone. Yeah, when it's taken off the bone. Off the bone and then fried. And then present. Kind of like boneless chicken.

Yeah, kind of like, no, no, no. No, no. No, no. Take it up. No, because, because you're taking the most tastiest part of the chicken. Chicken off the bone is literally boneless chicken with one extra step.

No, it's fucking, the breast is the worst tasting part of the chicken. It is. What are you on? It is. Have you tasted chicken asshole? It's the most healthiest part of the chicken. Have you had chicken feet? Okay, well, that's, okay.

I arrest my face. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, backtrack. Okay, okay, okay, okay, I will back. It's the most, it's the worst tasting part of the chicken that's like actually, you know, how can I say it's white meat, white meat. Yeah, it's got meat on it, right, right, right. It's the most healthiest for you, you know, you know, you. It's, you know, if you wanna eat a healthy meal, you should eat the leanest part of the chicken,

which I do. But that doesn't necessarily mean it tastes the best. And the fact that you think that all chicken tastes the same no matter what part of the chicken is from, you are so wrong. The meat part of it, like the breast, the wing, it's all comes to how it's prepared. It doesn't, you know, it's entirely to do with that

and how much water has been injected into it. Like, if you prepare each part of the chicken the same, which is exactly what fried chicken is, then the worst pacing, then it tastes the same. Then it doesn't taste the same. And it doesn't taste. It doesn't taste. Again, I guarantee I can take two different fried chicken

from two different parts, put it in front of you, blindfold you, you would not be able to hold different. I would because fucking brass, especially in fried chicken, it's not moist at all. It's dry a lot of the time. I think you're just, you know, you're confusing the feral instinct of tearing it off as a supplement for flavor.

I think that's what's going on here. Because there's no way, you know, when you rip the skin off and you would eat it, it tastes the same. Why don't they just sell breasts then? Why, what, which they do you mean? They do, it's called boneless wings. Yeah.

No, I mean, I mean, why, why market wings? In that case. Because of people like you, why market- Why market thighs? Because what do you mean, thighs? Because thighs are like, what are they? I mean, like, more cartilage, they're cheaper, right? Like, they normally just like, they have more like shit

in them, more muscle and stuff. What? The cartilage of chicken is like muscle. Oh, I'm not talking about, I'm talking about thighs. You said thighs and cartilage. I just said thighs. Oh yeah, thighs have more like cartilage in them there. And like, like, fucking muscles and five-ins.

What are you talking? It's just meat. It's a different part of the meat that tastes a bit different to the breast. No, the thighs have more muscle in them. It's a thigh. What the top of it? The breast has more muscle in it. It's, we literally talked about this.

The breast is the lean part of the chicken. That's the part with the most muscle. No, no, I'm just gonna hang back. You know, when you bite into a meat, right? When you've bought thigh, there's just loads of like fibers and shit that you've got like, oh, fuck, you know what I mean? No.

What? I really don't. What? When you go to the supermarket, you cut up chicken thigh compared to chicken breast. The breast is like nothing in it. You see my cook. It's your pure meat, right?

The thigh is just like, it's got like fucking strands of muscle in it and shit and it's way tougher. It's because it's a thigh, it's got fucking muscle. Have we ever, I don't think we've ever been this silent. Have you ever cooked a chicken thigh and a chicken breast? You know what? I'm like, I can't argue that. You know what? Like, if you'd argue with an idiot, they'll just take you down to their level

and be with experience, man. How can I argue? I'm gonna argue with you when you're just like wrong on so many fucking levels. Explain how I'm wrong. Like a thigh doesn't have the most amount of muscle because it's not the lean meat, right? It's the breast.

The breast is pure muscle. It's pure muscle. It's me. What do you think? All the meat is muscle, right? But the breast, the reason the breast has the most muscle is because it doesn't come with the bone. You have just, you have a pure slab of pure chicken muscle.

What are you saying? Oh my God. The breast isn't just one big muscle. What? What do you think meat is? What do you think meat is? It's a layer of different things. There's like fatty layers and stuff as well. It's a whole combination of things.

So it's all just pure muscle. Yes, it is. No, no, no, because it's like fibers and stuff that connects all the muscle. That's a muscle. That's a muscle. You know, no. I gotta Google this.

I gotta consult Google. I'm like losing my muscle. I got a- I'm actually losing my mind. I got a breast and dick, like it consists of like fat. Yeah, it's... This is just turned into... I'm pirates, which is a part of the, which is a muscle. Yeah.

Are you all entertained? I am. I'm not. I'm loving, I'm just sitting back to watch you guys lose it over literal pieces of chicken. I'm losing brain cells, man. Like, that's like, I don't know how many brain cells has just died in this past conversation. I can't, I can't. I can't believe you're getting heated over poultry.

It's just hilarious. I misunderstood what I was saying. I googled it. I misunderstood tendons and like muscles, and I confused the two. It's all right, man. It's all right to admit when you're wrong. It's all good.

I'm wrong. You know what? You're the bigger man. I'm wrong. I'll admit when I'm wrong. I fucked up. You know, this episode started really, you know, this episode started really calmly. started really calmly, talking about candles, incense,

you know, de-stressing and it ended up, the thigh does taste worse. It ended up being one of the most stress-inducing arguments. Why couldn't we have started on this? It ended on the massage, the thigh tastes worse. I'm saying, because the muscle is used more often than the breast. It not only became the most stress-inducing argument, but also at the same time, I think it became,

I'm Googling it again. I think it became one of the most stupid arguments we've ever had on trash taste. The reason the breast meat is the most lean is because that's the muscle that's the most used. No, it's the least used. Audio only listeners, you might wanna watch, tune into the YouTube version of this to see

two men melting down over poultry. I'm just, I'm just, I think, I didn't think we could get more heated than the pizza crust argument. Yeah. But like, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just like, I'm just like, oh my God. Like, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just love like peering over at once.

The thigh is considered a darker meat because it's used way more. Because they're walking all the fucking time. They're not fucking using their breast all the time. What's lean meat then? Lean meat, I think is when it's used less. Is it? I think so. Is it?

Mead has got less fat content compared to other parts of the meat. I don't know. I thought that was because it was used the most. So here's what Google says, apparently. I Google, why is thigh dark meat? And it says, the more my, globing the darker than meat and the richer the nutrients. My globe provides muscle with oxygen required for exercise and movement.

Since chickens are flatless birds, they use their legs and thighs to get around, making those thoughts darker than the breast or wings. Because you're not using, how would you think that the breast is used more than the thigh? How does that make any sense? Do you use your breast more than your thigh? Think!

I was wrong on the muscle part, yes. But how could you think that the breast is used more than the thigh? I'm not. I, I too. We all, we're both wrong. We're both wrong, right? We're both fucking idiots. But you know what?

You're still wrong about the taste. You're still wrong. You're so fucking wrong. You know, we equaled the playing field, but you're still wrong. You're still fucking wrong. We're both fucking idiots and welcome the trash taste. Welcome to trash taste.

Welcome to the trash test. Two idiots arguing over chicken. I, I, I, I, I feel like 30 minutes wasn't enough. I'm just like, I just wanna know how you thought the chicken walked in your mind. Like this, I just wanna know how you thought the breast had less muscle.

We all know, I just did a brain fault. That's my excuse. We all know, we all know chicken shimmy when they walk. I just like, I just hear the fucking like a samba music. Oh my God. Yeah, I mean, I just thought lean meat just had more muscle use. That's what I thought.

I thought when I hear the word lean meat, it means it's got less fatty content. So I just assumed. Well, someone's lean, right? They have some muscles, but not that much, right? You kind of have like, no, it's not worked out meat, right? It's kind of like, not fat meat, but not very muscular. It's a skinny meat.

Or like, I think, right? Am I crazy here? Did you say someone's lean when, they look like skinny, but not, but not, but not frail? Yeah, they got a little bit going on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because there's, there's only the muscle content.

They're like, they don't really have fat content. They're not muscular though, but that's just because there's no fat, there's no fat content. Oh, you say, yeah, yeah, there's no fat content. Yeah, right, right, you got lean, yeah. Yeah, so, so I assumed that because it was lean meats, then it would have less fat contents, therefore it was the one that was used the most, right?

That's, that's like, yeah, I guess by that logic, it'd be like, if I didn't do anything and didn't have any fat, I would be muscular. But I'm not using my muscles. Because I'm still like confused. Because the more you use a muscle, the more like muscular becomes the more nutrients of demand.

So how does the breast have the most meat and muscle in it then? So when you're working out, right, the muscle fibers become a lot more like intense and I believe they go through, like they're in the meat a lot more. I think if I'm correct in saying that. Yeah.

That's because that's what makes like when you go to space, right, your muscles get shit that the muscle fibers are so weak because they haven't been used. So they're when they, I believe when they're being used, they're a lot more intense. And that's why when you have the thigh, it bites back a lot more, it's tougher to eat because the muscle fibers are so much stronger.

That's how I interpreted it. Right, right. Again, I misunderstood and that's why lean me, because the breast isn't, you know, you're really using the breast much, so there's not much muscle fiber to plant there. Yeah, just, I don't even know where to take this comment. I'm just like, I'm just like,

I don't think this episode can peak any more than Yeah, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like you're just gonna go downhill from here. Yeah, we're gonna go downhill from here. So you know what, let's just fucking, like, show off the patrons. This might be a shorter episode than usual, but I, I don't, I feel like any other topic

we can take from this is gonna, it's gonna be go. Let's just end while we're high. Yeah, let's just end while we're at the high. Just, Joe, had a fun spectating. Oh, dude. I was literally that, you know, that meme, I'm like, the two guys arguing in the wrong.

I was sipping his tea while you guys were like. Yeah, I was just like Sunday afternoon over here watching you. I just like how we had such a civil podcast. We were having such a civil podcast. And I literally remember the moment when it was just like, I didn't say it on purpose, but I just said, I disagree. I'm literally just like, and then boss music started. I didn't do that on purpose.

I know that's the meme, but I seriously didn't do that. The conversation is like modern day time. You know, when things get too peaceful, too peaceful, war is bound to cover. Exactly, exactly. We went from aromatherapy to two men, veins popping out on their forehead over chicken. Oh, you think candles are good?

Well, that's how World War I starts. All right, well then, here's all the patrons. Hey, let us know in the comments, which part of the chicken you prefer. I'm sure that one turned to a phone. Boneless gang, boneless. Funeless gang. No, no, not all chicken tastes the same.

We're gonna do, we're gonna do something. Bone chicken taste better. We're gonna do something that we're gonna do something that we've narrowed down before. And I'm doing this without asking permission. We're gonna do a poll on Twitter the day after this goes up. You guys have one day to vote on boneless or bone. Yeah.

But hey, in the meantime, you can go over to our Patreon, patreon. Patreon.com slash trash taste. Also follow us on the Twitter. Send us your memes on the subreddit and if you hate our face, listen to us on Spotify. Although this episode might not be too great for Spotify. This, we recommend the YouTube version for this to watch two men lose it.

Tell them when they finished. Yeah, yeah. I don't know how much I peaked the mic. I really hope it wasn't too bad, but like I... The mics are built different, fine. Yeah, don't worry about it, it's all right. I love that we went from aromatherapy to fucking chicken. Self-care to chicken.

Self-care to chicken. I need to fucking... Okay, maybe massages aren't so bad because I feel like I need one now. Yeah, I think we all need a massage off of this. So, like, cool, cool with a fuck down after that. Jesus Christ. I need some bath salts and some, uh...

You know what I need? Maybe I need some candles. You know, I need to calm. Some boneless chicken to calm me down. After a nice argument. Oh my god, that stare that he just came here. I've never seen God give a death stare before. He was like,

you know what, maybe being a monk was a mistake. So the time for peace has ended. God has channeled all the gods and it's still trying his patience. Anything that can break a monk is a monkey. Who the fun knew? The mortal enemy. Oh my God, hopefully you guys enjoyed this episode.

And we'll see you guys on the next one. Bye. Bye. Homeless chicken guys. Bye. You're fucking wrong, Connor!