Trash Taste Podcast - WE CAN'T DO EXERCISE | Trash Taste #209

Episode Date: June 21, 2024

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Oh, I was saying a Garn, do you think they'll ever be an antituber that hits 10 million subs? Maybe through shorts, that's more likely. Yeah, from for shorts. Yeah. But I think like hitting like 10 million views of video, like main channel video, like long form, I don't know, it's tough.

Yeah. It's like movie reviewers, right? How did that happen? Think about like movie reviews, right? The biggest movie reviewers, like maybe on like a big video they can pull a 10 million, but like no movie. review or TV show review is pulling 10 mil every episode. A lot of them just get like a mill to like.

I'm saying 10 million sobs. Oh yeah, I mean, I think some will get 10 million subs, yeah, for sure. I think if all if like three of us had like fully committed to like clickbait and shorts and all that stuff easily. Yeah. Fair enough. It's just not worth it.

I just think like the back, because we started when the grind was a lot different. Yeah. And like gaining subs was a lot slower. Yeah. So like I think if. If you did our grind, but like today, it would look a lot different.

I think the subs would be different. Cakewalk. Take like, no, no, no, I just mean, you know. Honestly, if I feel like if I just went, it's ironic, I feel like if I went back to giving up on everything but my main channel, I think like I'd find it so much easier to grind out videos now.

Yeah, probably. Yeah, true. But I don't, like, I don't think you producing, like, two videos a week would make any difference to like, so, yeah, yeah. And YouTube is also devalued subs so much. Yeah. So I don't think it works. That's true.

All right, are we rolling? Okay. Oh shit, all righty. Hey, welcome back to another episode of Trash Tastes Podcast. I'm Joey and I'm with the boys. Connor and gone, as per usual. Did you just not?

Are you recreating the Joey nuts? No, that is my favorite thing of all. If you guys have watched that, it's on screen right now. Why you put it on screen? I was just do it. It's just how roar it was. It felt so raw. It felt so real.

Oh, I did. I genuinely think you did not. I probably did. I think I've not had never even like done that. Like I've never like come down that hard. Oh God, we're getting to water size. I love that we're just starting off this episode with Nut Talk.

Yeah, so what you've been up to? Uh, not a whole lot. Not a whole lot. Not a whole lot. Not a whole lot. What are you, I can't do something. Do something, doing something. Here's the problem, Connor.

The things I've been up to, I can't talk about yet. Like a lot of stuff is like eventual. I mean, there's a lot of stuff that's happening like later in the year for me, but like I can't talk about any of it yet. I got a question to us, when the fuck did you get a personal trainer? Yeah, you said you got a personal trainer.

I mean, you mentioned it offhandly. You mentioned it offhand just like upstairs and I'm like, when this happened? Oh, I think I started going, when was it? I think it was like March this year. Oh shit. Yeah, so. You're telling the boys now?

This is like a, you're like trialing out? You didn't wanna like tell us unless you were sticking to it. I didn't think it was that input. You're like, I can't tell the boys. No, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like a relationship. It's like, I can't tell them about it. Like, honey, I've been waiting to tell you this,

but I have the personal training. No, so, um, Aki and I've been going to CrossFit for the past like, yeah, three or four months now. She's been going a little bit longer now. But the thing that made me like click over to be like, okay, I really need to start actually physically working out now was, this is so pathetic to talk about, but back in February, I went to Hokkaido for a day, right?

To film with the polygamist family. Yeah. Right. And the entire day, I was carrying around this backpack with like all my camera equipment on microphones and everything. It was a fucking heavy backpack. Yeah.

We went, you know, we ate, we did the interview, we finished and then we had a bit of time before our flight back to Tokyo, so we were just kind of walking around, exploring Sapporo because Sapporo is a dope city. Yeah, it's a great city. And then somewhere along the way, I guess I pulled my back out, like really, really bad

to the point where I couldn't walk. What the fuck? Yeah, and it wasn't like a regular back pulling where it's like, you know, maybe you bend over and then you just suddenly feel like the twinge in your back. No, it was like this gradual pain that just kept getting worse and worse and worse throughout the night.

And by the time I got, to the Sapporo Airport to fly back home, it was so incredibly painful. Like I was barely able to walk. I got back to Tokyo and managed- Like, the wheelchair for you. It was close, man, it was literally close. Like it was really bad.

And I got, you know, I went into a taxi, went home and I was basically bedridden for about two or three days. Like I physically could not move at all. It was really, really bad. And it was at that point where I was like, okay, Joey, you are so fucking not fit that,

and you're approaching 30, you need to do something about this. If you're pulling your back out at age 29, that's a bad sign. This is the most I'm hitting 30 moments I've ever heard of my life. That shit hit me like a truck. So, you know, I did that. And then it was a couple of weeks prior to that

that Aki was like, I'm gonna start, you know, going to cross fit. That's a real reason. Yeah. What? My girlfriend started going. Well, no, she was, I got to start going. You can't let you go over me better than you or something.

No, no, no. No, she was going to the cross-feard. And, you know, at first I was like, oh, okay, you know, go ahead. I'm not going to do it because whatever. But then after that whole back situation happened, I was like, okay, I think I need to start going. I think that's how it always happens, though,

when you get really into exercise. You need to have like a wake-up call and makes you think like, oh, yeah. I'm horrifically out of shape. Yeah. Also, like, just thinking about my past couple of years of going on and off,

of the gym. Yeah. I found out that I'm, I'm the type of person who is definitely not self-disciplined enough to actually go. Like, I need someone there.

If you book something, you'll go. Yeah, if I book something and there's someone there that tells me exactly what I need to do to stay healthy, to stay fit, then I'm much more capable of maintaining that. Yeah. So,

fitness is tough, man. It is tough, man. Like, the first time I went, because, like, I didn't really know anything about CrossFit, like, at all. Like, I'd heard the name, but I didn't know actually how intense it was. So,

The first session I went, I fucking, after the hour long workout or whatever it was, I threw up. Like, I was physically sick in the toilet. And the guy was like, yeah, well, that makes sense because you haven't done a lot of physical exercise recently and then you're suddenly jumping into this very extreme form of exercise. Like, yeah, your body is going to like.

So CrossFit, from my understanding, it's basically just like, it's like gym combined with a lot of like athleticism. Okay. So it's not just about. like building muscle and stuff like that, but oh, it's in Japanese, great. It's like a lot of moving, but also like lift. So you're like doing a lot of intense,

like high intense cardio whilst doing like weight lifting. Yeah, weight lifting, cardio, yeah, it's basically the entire patching. It is, I would say, the quickest shortcut to getting the most fit in every aspect. I think doesn't Nick, Nick Pater, the K1 fighter, Chris's boxing coach, I think he owns her cross-fit gym.

Oh, okay, do you? Yeah, I mean, that makes sense. He's also insane. He's just unhinged. And like every single year, I think, they do like these CrossFit Championship, so they bring out all these CrossFit athletes from all over the world.

And they kind of do it in like a, so it's like, it's usually like a time trial. So it's like you have to like lift this many times, you know, travel this amount on a handstand and then do a bunch of all this kind of stuff every single year. And it's fucking intense. So it's kind of like an intense workout session

with a little bit of everything. It's basically everything. Yeah, so I go there now like once or twice a week with Archie, we have a trainer there that tells us everything. The dude we have is like he was, he competed at like the top level crossfit like a couple of years in a row.

So this this motherfucker's fit as shit. Yeah. But yeah, I've been going to that now and I just went yesterday and I am below 10% body fat for the first time. in my life. Oh yeah, dude. Nice, nice.

And shockingly, haven't thrown my back out since. No, if you get like fitter in general, right, stuff like, I guess generally will happen, like, so you can always go overboard. Yeah, and I've always wanted to do it either way, because I've been that one kid who, I think, like, genetically, I just have that kind of body where it's like, it's really easy for me to drop fat,

but it's also really easy for me to drop muscle as well, and really difficult to gain muscle. Because you know how, like, there's a lot of people. You've already been, like, muscular from when I've known. No. I mean, this is like- I was skinny as shit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You used to be very, very skinny. Too skinny though. Yeah. Sometimes I look at like episode one of like trash taste. Yeah. You know when you like you see your mate every week

so you don't notice like the small change and you're like, no, Joey's always looked the same. I go back to episode one and even myself, I was like, was like that thin as well? Yeah, I look at you. Yeah. I think during high school and uni, I was this height and I was average, and I was averaging like 55 kilos.

Jesus Christ. Yeah, it's just like no, no fat, but also no muscle. I was skinned in the bone. Everyone had that one friend in the friend group who was tall and skinny. Yeah. I was, and I was that guy as well.

We have the same body type. I was tall, skinny with big hair. I was like a walking Q-tip, you know. It was an eyesore to say the least. So like, yeah, so I've been doing that now and I'm probably the most fit. I've ever been in terms of like muscle mass and everything. But and I think as well, the great thing about CrossFit,

at least the one that I'm going to is that like, unlike a lot of fitness programs where like the guy, obviously or the guy or girl tells you like, you know, you have to do this amount of cardio today or like, you know, this kind of weight lifting with the right movements. But a lot of them also kind of give you like dietary restrictions. So like to be like, okay, make sure you only eat this amount of carbs or this amount of fat or this amount of calories.

The interesting thing about my trainer is that he does, do any dietary restrictions. He basically said like, as long as you're coming once or twice a week and doing the exercises to the standard that I said it, you will naturally want to eat healthy. Because your body is gonna just get constantly, you know, used to living this more healthier,

more physical style that once you start to see your body actually physically changing and how you physically feel day in and day out, you'll want to maintain that no matter what. So you won't be going out there like smashing a pizza, every weekend, you know, like, you'll want to be like, I might, I mean, you might, look, I'm just an Indian for you.

I mean, never gonna say no to a fat curry. Bro, I mean, look, like, I can't say that I haven't had my cheat days, you know, every now and then, but I've definitely just, personally just seen myself craving those kinds of foods less now, yeah, just naturally, just because like, again, like, I'm- Yeah, the more you take care of yourself, the more you don't wanna ruin what you do.

Exactly, exactly. You're like, man, I spent so hard to burn those 200 calories. I don't really wanna eat that chocolate bar. No, totally, totally. So yeah, I'm hoping I can keep that up. Yeah, I'm gonna-finness is, you know, anything that gets you in the gym or get you doing anything?

Mm-hmm, whatever, it works. Yeah, when you take cyclathon? I stopped going to the gym now because I'm like, I don't have a cyclathon. And then immediately I had like, we had like a really busy weekend filming and then I met when on vacation. So I did like no exercise.

Although in Europe, there was one hotel stayed out where I did, I went to the gym every day because I had like this immaculate gym. Like I love exercising. Like it's, if, If you give me like a blank 12 hour a day and I can do whatever I want, I'm gonna exercise. That's something I still don't understand.

Dude, dude, it's like a meditation. Do you like cross-fit? Do you like exercise? At first I was like, this is the worst thing I've ever done in my life. Like I'm sweaty, I'm sore, I'm tired of shit, I wanna kill myself. But then nowadays, I'm getting to the point now

where I guess because I am getting fitter and you know, my cardio's getting better and everything. Like, at the end of each workout, I'm definitely feeling less tired and more fulfilled. Like, I'm starting to get to that point now where like, oh, I'm able to like lift this now or I'm able to go this long on the bike.

You know, I'm actually starting to see like progression now to the point where it's actually fun now to be able to like hit that next goal for me. Like, I don't know, it's like a weird like, it's like grinding in an RPG. But do you enjoy like the process of it? Versus like the results. Because I enjoy the results.

I enjoy feeling like I've made progress. I can run a little bit fast this time and I can lift a little bit more weights. When I'm actually doing the thing, I hear people being like, yo, after you go to the gym a bit bro, you just, it becomes a part of you or you start to love it? I'm like, when the fuck does that happen?

Is this a gym bro's trying to gas-thry me? I'm not at the gym lifting weights with like a massive smile. I think objectively, the gym is probably one of the most depressing places in the world because we think about it. right, I had this, sometimes I'm there lifting, like doing just curls in the mirror.

And I have this existential dreader, I'm like, I am literally in a room lifting things. I'm just lifting things. No, that's me on the treadmill. Yeah, well, treadmill as well, right? It's like, you're sitting there, you're like, I'm just in a building, training like a, like a, like a hamster wheel.

Like, it's literally a hamster wheel. And I'm sitting here like, I'm like, objectively, this is just not fun. Like, and I think that's my only problem with the gym is that it is probably the least fun form of exercise generally for me. Yeah, right. And I know that I'm, I'm jealous of gym bros who love it.

Yeah. Because I sit there and I'm like, there's no way in world, like, that exists where I'm like, you know, I'm doing, I'm doing like, let's say we're doing, like I'm doing a rowing machine. Yeah. I would, I would love to row just row so much more.

In the, in like the fucking river or ocean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like taking it all in, that's peak exercise for me. Yeah. But in my mind, to be able to enjoy that aspect, like to, if I would, you know, to do like a cyclathon. Yeah.

To be able to really enjoy that to the fullest, I need to be a level of fitness and that requires me to go to the gym to then and be able to enjoy it. But I think that's why I enjoy going with Arkies because like, you know, we can share that experience and it's been a great bonding experience as well. You know, going to the gym

or doing anything with your partner, obviously, especially that, you know, of which is not exactly like the peak of fun necessarily while you're doing it, but like it's a great bonny. When you're doing it with your partner, because you're suffering together. Yeah, exactly. And you can like, you know, you can hype each other up

and you can, you know, keep an eye out on your own progress, but also your partner's progress. Yeah, you also bitch out sometimes when you're alone. You're like, oh no, 100%. Like that's, and that's why like again, like when I used to go to the gym by myself, I found that so much more difficult

because it was just me in my own suffering and in my own thoughts and like there was no one else. Like, you know, remember like, you know, when you and I used to go to the gym together quite often, like at the start, you know, right before the pandemic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was great because it was like, you know, while you're waiting for,

you know, while I was waiting for Connor to finish up on. you know, whatever machine he was on. I could like Chad, we could, you know, chill out, we could catch up, you know, it was a lot more like a fun, interactive time than just like putting on headphones and just suddenly doing this for, you know, 30 minutes, you know, like, it's not exactly the most fun,

but- Yeah, I definitely went way more back then because I just had way more free time. Like we had, I think we hadn't started trash taste. I had my main channel, I was uploaded them once a week. We had one channel between all of us. Yeah, there's a lot easier to like, yeah, I could easily be like, I don't need to work for like three days,

because I did a ton of work, the past four days. Yeah, yeah. And then I could just go to the gym all day. Yeah. And then when I was on vacation, it was great, because I just, there was this, I know the gym was like, it was like some kind of like Apple store, bro.

It was so nice. They had fresh fruits and like sparkling water. Oh, bro. Weird teas that I never heard of. God damn. And I was like, shit, this is where I, I just wanna chill out here. And also, also, especially at the time,

there was a, there was the League of Legends thing was on. Oh, okay. Because I was just listening. Is that when MSI was on? Yeah, I was just watching the live MSI, like watching a live. I was in there for like three hours, just doing like monkey workout.

Cause I was like, this is great. Because I just wanna do nothing anyway. Yeah, but if I can do nothing, and also get fit. Because in my mind, for some reason, my brain categorizes like stuff into like work, social, and then nothing. Yeah, and nothing, I don't know why I've called it,

that's just a gap in my life where I'm like, and nothing in Zombering me means just like procrastinating or fun. Like, just relaxing. Yeah, so like, yeah. I find exercising relaxing, but gyms, oh man, it's no gym's depressing. It's so fucking depressing, man.

But it's so good feeling fit. Yeah, I mean, my gym is actually pretty good because, you know. I don't know windows, bro. Mine's got no windows either. It's the most depressing shit. Oh, mine is like four windows. Because it's like, you have to go like,

it's underground in fact, my gym. Oh, really? My gym's like in the middle of the city. Mine is like four windows and the people who go there are like some of the nicest people, because like, you know, whenever you're like at that point in the exercise where you're like, oh man, I don't really want to do this anymore,

I just want it to be over. Like the people in my gym are just like, you got it, bro, let's go, let's do it. And I'm just like, yeah, all right, you know what? Everyone turns out, around and claps. And starts clapping, come on, Joe, you got a champ, you got a champ. I think that's pretty, are you going to like a more,

like a, not a big chain gym or are you going to like a more local one? I'm going to a more local one. That also specifically, is specific to CrossFit. Oh, okay, okay. So the people who go there are like do kind of like big, you know, five to 10 people cross-fit classes or they do personal training stuff like, Arkinaw.

Yeah, this anytime fitness that I go to is the most depressing shit. And I thought like, oh man, because everyone's just doing their own thing. And like no, and everyone's quiet. No one's making any noise. And not that I want it to be noisy, but it is kind of nice just hearing people like,

like pushing themselves. Just grunting. Just having a grunt. Like this guy, like, I remember he grunted a little loudly and then did a loudest Sue Massain. Like it's a sorry. to like people around him. And I was like, dude, you just benched like 400 kilograms.

It's good. See me my son for being ripped. Yeah. Like I missed that, I kind of missed that like the Hulk man in the, in the, in the old gym. You remember the old gym? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ran the place.

Oh, yeah, I do remember that. He was like the gym dad. Every gym he's a gym dad who was like ripped a shit and just looks off to everyone. There was no way from, because you know, I never really followed any gym stuff online. Because I think the gym, online

gym stuff is really weird, like the people talking online about fitness. It's a very weird online space and I, you know, seeing that guy, I was like, looking back, I'm like, that guy, you definitely took steroids. This dude was absolutely yon, yoked. Our Jim, dad at our Jim, he's this guy, a Japanese guy who's like, honestly, you take one look at him and you're like,

you look like a statue that the Romans look up. Our guy, right? No, no, no, no, the one at my gym. Like, he's like a Japanese dude, like six, seven, I admire it. Fucking, it looks like, you know, Zeus. Like, he has the body of Zeus, but he is also the most shy dude in the world. That's always how it is, man.

I'd walk in and I'd be like, hi, Keita, son, and he'd be like, kohenichua. They're always the nicest people. Yeah, they're always like the most wholesome people. Because the loyalty remains to the gym. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

There's nothing else. You can see the fucking body, you know what I mean? Exactly. They don't need an ego boost. I mean, everyone online as well, whenever you talk about this kind of stuff, it's so annoying, because people are like,

you have to do it this way, this is the optimal workout. It's like, dude, whatever gets you in the gym, whatever gets you eating healthy and in the gym? Yeah, exactly. That's it.

Yeah. Were you all, like, was your family like a very, like, exercise focused family, or was it like? Not really. I mean, my sister and I did a lot of sports growing up. Like, I did a lot of, like,

tennis and stuff growing up. I felt like everyone did a lot of sports growing up. Yeah. That's just like, you just have more energy as a kid. No sports anymore. At which point in your life, right, did you kind of realize, at least, at least especially for you, Joey, where at which point where you went through life

and you're like, I can just live my life, not think about health at all, and I'm never gonna gain any weight. I'm never gonna change my body. That was me in high school. That was like, when I was in high school, you know, like six foot, 55 kilograms, right? Yeah.

I was eating like eight sandwiches a day. Yeah. Like I was like, you know those like massive. Actually just loaves of bread. Yeah. massive loaf of bread that has like the 12 to 14 slices in it that you can buy the supermarket. I would, in the morning, my mom would make like six to seven sandwiches of that and just like refill the package with all of the sandwiches.

And I would take that whole thing. And I would finish that before lunch. And then I would come home in a massive dinner, you know, maybe you stop by at a Mac is on the way home after school with the 50 cents that I picked up from somewhere, right? Because I was broke as shit. And yeah, I'd go home. take a fat shit, not gain a single kilogram. I'm like, it came in one end and went out.

I'm like, I am unstoppable. So when I, you know, finally moved out and I started living on my own, and then, you know, when I started, you know, this is like mid-20s for me. Yeah. I thought in my head, well, my metabolism was this goaded during high school and uni. It's going to keep going as usual. So I just continued to eat like shit and not exercise.

And then over the pandemic, I was the heaviest I've ever been. I think it was the pandemic that was the wake-up call for me as well. I went from 55 kilos to 80 kilos. Jesus Christ. Whoa, that's a lot. Like 80 for my height and age is not fat necessarily, but compared to what I was, it's fat. I mean, I'd say you gained a healthy amount of,

I'd say you were probably underweight. I got fat, I got fat her. I went from severely underweight. Excuse me, you were bulked, actually. I didn't go from zero to 100. I went from minus 100 to zero essentially. But I still wasn't happy with it because all that weight I gained was just

purely fat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I never really had a lot of muscle in my body. So yeah, that's when I was like, all right, CrossFit it is. And then now I'd say I've got the most muscle in my body I have ever in my life and I wanna keep going with that. Oh yeah, I wanna be like the Zeus body.

I just wanna work out to eat. That's what, yeah. I like this idea of just eating a fat curry, slamming a beer and being like, right, boys, just go and do a workout. I just don't wanna be like those nine year old, like grandmas you see, sometimes with the 90 degree backs.

I just don't wanna be like that. No. You know. Well, you have to go a long way to be like that. I know, but after I threw my back out at age 29, bro, I was like, I'm one step closer to that. Then I think I am, you know.

Why is life so unfair when it comes to calories, man? You like, it just feels awful where you fucking, you work out, you feel like you've spent every energy within your body. And then you're really like, This is just one beer. I've been fine for my life for one beer's worth of calories.

Yeah, like you've been walking around like all day, your feet are tired, your back's starting to get sore and you're like, oh man, I must have burned a lot of calories and you check and it's like, you have burnt one bowl of rice worth. It's like, cool. Awesome.

Love it. It's also kind of cool as well when you, because that's like a normal workout, I don't know, like if you did like a short run and maybe did some muscle, what's like 300 calories? Yeah, it's like 300, maybe a push. 100 maybe.

Yeah. You go and like kind of, and the rum would have to be quite a lot. But then you're like, well, that's still like an extra protein shake and a protein bar. Yeah, that's kind of nice. Yeah.

That's normally fills me up. Yeah, that's true. That's true. I don't know. I just, I just like eating. So it's kind of. Same, bro. Same.

Same. That's just the biggest problem. I did the Spartan race with Chris. Oh, yeah. It was fun. Yeah, it was great. It was kind of, it was weird because, what'd you have to do on it?

What's, what does the Spartan race? So it's not too bad. It's, I think, I don't know the exact amount of obstacles, but about 20 obstacles and 5K run. Okay. So not bad. This one was in some German park in Chiba. I think it's a German theme park in Chiba. And German theme?

Yeah. We went to one on our like, John special, yeah. Yeah. So yeah, you kind of, you kind of, yeah, so I did the 5K one because I let Chris handle it. So I got there and then this Australian woman goes, oh yeah, I've been meaning to meet,

I've been meaning to meet you. And I was like, oh, I was like, oh, hi. And Chris goes, oh, that's, that's the person who organizes the entire Spartan race. Oh, it's organized by Australian War? I was like, oh shit. She's really lovely and really nice. Oh yeah, sorry I've butchered your accent.

I'm offended for you, don't worry. Yeah, and then she was like, yeah, come do it. So we do it. I'm like, I don't really know what to expect other than I saw a bit of Chris's videos. I know I gotta climb a rope. Does it show you the obstacles? It's kind of like a mock Susque race type of thing.

Is that a sack? That's the kids version. Okay, I was- You're looking at the kids version. I didn't do the kids version, all right? All right, okay, for the record, I would have beat all of them, all right? But I didn't do that.

I was like, I didn't know Spartans were, like, going across recent sacks. I think I've seen a lot of footage from it. You have to like climb up a rope, do army-cloth stuff. Yeah, so we start off, we ran like 2K, Which, man, I hate running. Same.

I can literally bike across Japan, literally. Not, not fit. You don't get the runners high that all these runners talk about? You know, I think it's because, that's bullshit. That's cold. Yeah. Very young age, I always used to get shin splinters.

Right. Shin splinters. Yeah, where your shin, the bone, right in the middle, like there. Oh. Start to really fucking hurt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And whenever I run, it just always hurts.

It's because of the force. Yeah, because I'm too dummy thick, right? That's why you're gonna slightly. Your shins are cracking under the way of your gut. It's like, like, my calves are great, my thighs are monstrous, but like, it's all being put on like here. Yeah, yeah, it's just not enough.

Yeah. It's like, yeah, you do kind of stuff like this. There's like, uh- Look at this giga-chat on the bottom left here. Yeah. Yeah. Um, you don't have to do the date, you can just type in the obstacles.

Yeah. You know, it's, so you, we'd run like, I thought it'd be more spaced out. So I thought you'd run a little bit, obstacle, run a little bit. This one was like you ran, like a K did a thing where you jumped over a fence. It was kind of inconvenient.

It was like, it was hard. It was very tiring, jumping is tiring. And then run like another five meters and then you have to jump over like, kind of like, they called them, what do they call me the Olympics, the hurdles. They were just really big. I nailed one of them though,

you can see in the Mudan Vod. Actually, yeah, we could pull up the Moondon video. Actually, yeah, we did you put up a fucking video Like, show you all the obstacles. Why am I trying to do this? Moodan video. I love the thumbnail of this Moudan video

because you and Moudan look so chill and Chris in the back is like, dude. Moodan did it all in a suit. And there were so many crazy costumes. There were so many crazy costumes and Moudan got the most compliments or like questions.

Everyone was like, suits it. Yeah, why I see the suit? And I was like, oh, now, kuhuwa shi got to do it. They were like, they were lab. So we started the start Yeah. It's kind of like, yeah, whatever, we go through

and then we just run for ages. Why is Moodyt-on always wearing a suit? I don't know. I don't know, he's just dedicated to that salary man. Yeah, yeah, he did. The day was roasting. Also, he was wearing, Chris was wearing the horrible shorts that you.

Which, oh, the one with my face on it? Oh, God. Why? So we're doing like a brisk little jog, you know, it's just that, it's kind of whatever. And then, there's the first obstacle, there you go. Yeah. So you just jump, like, tiny little fence.

You're like, okay. Wow. That doesn't look too bad. Yeah, and then you go to, so we nailed it. How many of those fences do you need to jump through? Well, just one of those and then you gotta do a bigger one. Yeah, all right, it's like a wall. Yeah, it's just a wall, shit up a wall.

That's cool. That's cool, that's cool. And then you go, uh, you might've skipped. Was that what? Yeah, that's it's that. Yeah, yeah, good there. Is there a wireless mouse? I could just go through it for you. Or you skipped one as well.

Can't believe Mood on his doing all this in a fucking suit, man. Dude, I took him to a spot job. He's wireless, right? But you know the, the place in round one where you can do all the sports upstairs. Oh yeah. He was wearing a suit for that as well. And people were just like,

why is this random assailor salary man playing tennis in a suit? Like, he's just too dedicated to that bit back. Because he got the perfect suit factory suit and they have like the really breathable. The stretch ball. Oh, the stretch. The game changing.

Yeah, yeah. All right, let's see this. So once you do that, you immediately then run past some goats. That's me, wow. Sugoy, sogoy strong does. Singoy strong. You go up and

go down, men, some of these hills were dicey. Okay. Then you basically, I don't know what mood is. Is this your point of view? No, this is Moodynans. Why do you throw that bottle like a frag? I don't know what he was hoping to like achieve there. So you jump over.

He's the superb. Why has he got his bag on him? Oh, nailed that one. So you jump over that. It's kind of tiring because you have to like really sprinted it. Otherwise, you don't do it. This one's super of a joke. You just go under.

Under than over, you know, just, wow, Sugali. Super Spartan. Just like the Spartans used to do. Just like the Spartans used to do. And then you're like, okay, it's just, it's just like tiring and then you have to carry this like, I don't know how heavy it was. It felt like 40 or 35 kilograms.

Okay. Just around, walking around a course. It was just tiring. You're like, God damn it. It wasn't like tough. It was just annoying. What a raving review. Yeah.

Sparse, Spine race. It's not tough. It's just mildly. And then you jump over this, not too difficult. I think like, did basically everyone that competed, did they pass the course? No, no, so a lot of people, if you just can't do it, you have to do like a punishment burpees thing.

Okay. And then this was really easy, but a lot of Japanese people struggling with this, you have to pull like a 20 kilogram weight across the ground. Right, okay. And it's not too bad, as you can see, I'm next to the mood on there. Yeah, yeah. But like, obviously you can see like, a lot of the Japanese people were like really struggling.

Yeah. But it wasn't the heavy. I feel like if you're like, Like if you do any muscle workout, it's not too bad. Like, I, okay, yep. There's Connor single-handily just breaking something else. And then this one, okay, then this one, you have to do like a pull a sack of sand up.

Everyone was like, you have to, it's so hard, you have to do this crazy technique where you- We use both your hands. You can see everyone's like really like using all of that body. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like going for it and helping each other out and it's just a sack of sand. So like, it's, I mean,

I mean, it's, you know, it's not too bad. Yeah, MoDan was using his entire body weight and like falling on the ground. And then I- How heavy is the sand? I don't know, I don't think it's that bad. I think it doesn't look that. 30?

So I was just pulling it up. Too bad. And then monkey bars. Oh no, this one, you have to run up a hill. Oh yeah, you go to like, the dreaded hill. Yeah. Yeah, but you can, you don't need to use the hell.

Well, you can just kind of like. This looks like, Takeshi's casting out. Oh, yeah, you can do that as well. You can just go up it. And then you have to walk down it, it's not too bad. Like a lot of these are kind of hard to fail. This one's, this one's definitely a little harder.

Yeah, monkey bars. Was that Chris? Holy shit, he just ate shit. Dude, Chris nearly did it. I was so impressed because Chris said, like, he had no chance. Because obviously Chris doesn't do a lot of upper body workouts. Yeah.

And he nearly made it. Oh. He ate shit though. He did eat shit. I feel with monkey bars, you just have to go for it. The problem was with this is that they were really swayed. Oh, yeah. Everyone's sweated them up.

So I was trying, it was really hard to get a good grit. But I was trying to monkey it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's how I would do it. Yeah, I was swinging across and I think no one else is doing that. Everyone was not using the momentum. You knew how to monkey. Yeah, I was like, guys, come on.

Yeah, look at you, man. And then you hit a bell, what a fucking natural. But I didn't do it. Yeah. Then you carry another sack around. Just, just inconvenient. Just a lot of sacks. Just a minor, yeah.

By far the worst one, and not for the reason you would expect is that, look at the congestion. Look at this, look at this dude, bro. What is he doing? What is bro doing? Blood's planking. There was like, yeah, there was one guy who was scraping his entire back of,

it was real barbed wire. Oh shit. Oh, okay. And he was like, what is bro? Bro did not want to get dirty. But like at one point in half, halfway, it got so close. Even when I was on the ground,

it was like scraping my back. Oh shit. And I was just congested. And obviously I'm dummy thick. So I'm like my, so your ass is just like protruding through the bobblower. Look at that.

I can't believe that's actual. I'm going. And then like I got stuck waiting. I got stuck waiting and then I was talking to a guy because the guy goes, hi, where are you from? I was like, UK, he goes, do you know Ulster? I was like, yes. Ulster?

It's a place of the UK. Oh, okay. He was like, I've been there. Very nice. And then the guy goes, that guy behind me screams like, go, go and I was like, bro. We are all stuck, it's traffic. Yeah.

By far the worst one, because you're like, you couldn't even attempt to do it fast. Also, you could like actually physically get hurt because they're real barbed wire. More monkey bars, but ones that swing. Very, very, very nice. These one looks easy, right?

Yeah, super chill. You can just swing across like a monkey, which for some reason no one was doing. You can skip everything if you just like, just, yeah, I don't know. Climb over something, super easy. Obviously you've done, you've done a run, climb a rope to the top.

Okay, so what's the hardest part? Probably the rope one, honestly. The road was kind of tough. Because if you don't have any, like you just can't cheat it. Yeah, if you don't have any upper body strength as well. Yeah, I would fucking fail at this because I have no upper body strength.

Everyone was doing some kind of weird leg technique and I was like, you know what, fuck it, let's just grab my, I'll just squeeze it to my legs and go off. I mean that, that's the right way to do it. Everyone, you can kind of, we're gonna do it on the left though. This is fucking free legging that shit.

Oh my God. You can kind of do some like leg technique, I think, which maybe a mudan, like this, you can kind of lock your legs to make like a ladder. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Throw a javelin, but you had to wait like nine hours to do it. Pick up a ball that weighed 40 kilograms

and walk around a pole. Okay, this guy's just chilling, man. That's Paraceticals editor. Oh, is it? Yeah. This one, a lot of Japanese people struggled with. Okay. Because I think a lot of the strength ones,

Japanese people weren't as good at. Yeah, a lot of them couldn't even pick up the ball. And I mean, it's heavy to be fair. And then my favorite part of the entire video, all this is watching, we don't walk up this. Well, like straight up. Look, look, wait, wait, it's gonna cut.

This is the best shot. Dude, every, this guy, when he passes this guy, he was in awe, he was like, what the fuck is bro doing? He looks so out of place in that, that. He walked up it, just straight up walked up it. What a bad ass.

It's a casual stroll. So like, it's like a lot of difficult, like I was definitely very sore the next day because it's just a lot of like, how long did it take away? I think from start to finish, it was about an hour and a half. Okay, not too bad. Okay.

Honestly, the worst part was just getting there. Yeah. Yeah, it's in cheaper, you said, right? Yeah, but it's fine. And the traffic on the way back was miserable. Yeah. Would you say that was more like foreign people or like Japanese people?

Japanese people. There's definitely a lot of foreigners, but more Japanese. I would do it, but I think I would do the 10K next time. I think the 5K was a bit awkward because you kind of run a little bit and then you're like, oh, it's, oh, I'm just waiting in line.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It doesn't feel very spotting like. You're like, who are we? DMV lines. That's the British race. It's like, what are we doing? We're queuing. You should, uh, do you know about the Iron Man challenge?

Oh my God, that shit's fucked. Well, they do it all over the world. Yeah. It's like a branded thing. Yeah, yeah. It's like triathlon on, like heroin. It is a triathlon from hell, basically. Do you know about everyone?

It is. No, I've never heard of this. So the Iron Man, can you look up the Iron Man challenge? Actually, I can tell you how many calories I burn on the day as well. All right. We'll tell you, on the spot. Yeah, the Iron Man challenge. I had a friend who used to do these like every single year.

When I stream 16 hours a day. And it's 600 steps yesterday. 600 steps. But yeah, there you go. Iron Man Triathlon is one of the series of long-distance triathlon races consisting of a 2.4-mile swim, 112-mile ride at a marathon. Right.

Not bad. Not bad. And you have to do all that. How many calories? Not a bad. 4,000. Oh, 4,000 calories? That includes the daily burning calories.

Oh, okay. So overall the day I walked 21,000 steps. Yeah, not bad at all. That's a good workout. Yeah, there you go, that's the next one you should do. Iron Man. Next stream? Extreme Iron Man.

But I think the thing is, is that I think if I prepped enough, I could do it slowly, but a lot of these things are like time limits. They gotta wrap up. That's true. That's true. Yeah. I think I'm good at,

Just, when I get to a certain level of fitness, I can just do stuff, but not great. I'm not clean with it. But the fact that you have to do a marathon, fuck. Yeah, that's after a 2.4 mile swing and 112 mile bicycle ride. Jesus Christ. No, thank you.

Yeah. That's really, like how, you'd have to, I think by far the hardest part would be the marathon for me. Oh, yeah. The bicycle ride, that would take a long time, though. Yeah, you would know. You would know. Yeah, you'd probably know the best.

I mean, it depends how, My God, that's ridiculous. What is like the average finish time? A hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a That's gotta be like a full twelve hour thing surely. I'm sure. Yeah, okay. 12 hours and 49 minutes. Jesus.

Well yeah, because if I cycling two point uh, swimming for two point four miles is tough. My mom does insane amounts of swimming. I could ask her. Uh, she's done triathlons. Not Iron Man ones. Yes. I wish I could do more swimming because I do actually enjoy swimming a lot and also it's great just as a workout.

out thing as well because it works every muscle in your body. And it's non-impact, so it doesn't hurt your joints or anything like running does. But the problem is, man, like, going to a gym. Finding a pool. Yeah, in Japan and not paying out the ass is like level impossible. There's a few members only ones,

but it's like, dude, if I have to like commute 30 minutes to go to the gym, it's already game over. I'm not going. Fuck that. Did you point four miles away? Oh my God, that's fucked. Dude, I'm doing a marathon. Not even a marathon, 26, why?

Why? Did you guys have, did you have sports day in Australian schools at all? Like an all day thing, like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We had sports. Yeah, we had one twice a year actually. Oh, shit, okay.

Yeah, we had one in the summer, we had one in the spring and the autumn. What was your sport of choice when you were a kid? What was the one you represented? For me, it was high jump and long jump. Oh, okay, okay. Because I was always really good at long jump and high jump because like, I've always had strong legs.

I've always had strong legs, never any upper body. Cause of the fucking reach. Oh yeah? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I was fast as fuck, boy. But yeah, I think for long jump, I like, for like two or three years in a row,

I held like the school record. Oh, how hard. Yeah. Wait, what was your long jump? Do you remember how long it was? Long jump? My long jump, I think, was, oh God, I don't remember. It was like five meters?

Holy shit. Yeah. You must have a good technique as well then to get five minutes. No, I just ran fast as fuck. Like, wait, did you not do like the, the leg swinging around thing where you land on your butt? No, I didn't do that.

What the fuck, can you get five minutes, damn? Yeah, I got, I think it was like just under five meters. God damn. Yeah, when I was like 16, 17. And then for high jump, I think I got to like, 170, I think. So about almost my high. Did you like, do like the proper like, well. Yeah, I did, I did like the flip. The kick technique is not proper anymore.

I did it. No, that's a flip technique. Well, what's the technique now? It's like the flip, like flipping your back over. So you run, so you run, you run. Right, I think that's not been metaphor for like 40 years. Are you talking about like the scissor kick? Yeah, no, no, I'm talking about the fucking backflip.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, you said the, the, the, the, the kick. Yeah, I mean, you have to like, It's called a jump, okay, yeah, the back jump, whatever. I would not call that a kick. Whatever, whatever. In what universe of you, see, if you've turned into the front flip, we'd be like, ah, nice kick, bro.

Nice front kick. Yeah, yeah, no, it's the whole like flipping behind. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You have to do that. If you do like the scissor thing, then the furthest you'll get is like a meter. That matter fell off. Yeah.

But yeah, high jump and long jump, but was always the best. What was yours? Mine was, one was a hundred meter. Oh, did you win? Oh, okay, okay. Okay, so I remember this one, I remember this one sports there.

I think it was like my very first one. And so, you know, I, you know, everyone, every kid has something that they're good at. I was like, I think I could like run mildly, fast compared to a lot of my other class members, but this was like the entire school. So I was like, everyone was like, gone, you can do the 100 meters or 200 meters.

I can't remember, but it was just a sprint, basically. And I remember, did your parents come in for the sports day when you had the sports day? For me, it was just students only. Yeah, I think when it was primary school they did, but not for high school. So for our school, it was like a, you know, parents come in, everyone watches.

And so- Like a Japanese sports festival. Yeah, yeah, like a Japanese sports festival. And my mom, so I was sitting with my mom, and I was like, my mom obviously being a mom is like super excited. Oh, I get to see my son compete and everything. And I remember I told her I was doing the sprint and, you know, we're waiting, we're waiting. And my mom, like you slightly tells me,

you don't worry, you don't need to win. But if you do well, I'm gonna cook you your favorite meal and I'm gonna come over and give you you big hug. And I'm like, and I'm like, wait, I'm getting chicken wings tonight. I'm like, what do I have to do? All right, what do I have to do

to get chicken wings tonight, mom? Mother, I am ready for this race. So I remember I was like pumped up. I got on the starting line. I was like, I'm doing it for the chicken wins. And my mom, I got to perform well for my mom. Yeah. So I remember whistle goes, I'm fucking sprinting.

I've never sprinted so fast in my life. My legs start burning back. battery acid. Yeah. But I'm like so focused, I thought that I don't look like, I'm just like looking down because you know, like you kind of like look down and then you look up when you're like running.

So I remember this was like the hardest I've ever sprinted my life and I'm just like, holy shit, I fucking done it. I go over the finish line. I look up. I am so fucking far behind everyone. No, no. And I was expecting my mom to be waiting for me

the finish line being like, girl, you, you did so well. And my mom, I just look over to my mom and she just has the most awkward smile in my life and I'm like, oh my God. I just like to think you cross the finish line, you look up, everyone you competed with is sitting at the bleachers, just like waiting for you.

The award ceremony is over. They've already given out the medals, the champagne's involved. The next race is already started. Please God, get off. Off the field. We're trying to start the next heat. Yeah, I knew it was bad because my, like,

I know my mom and she's just like, no matter what, she's like proud of me. And this is the one time, this is the one time when she just, she didn't eat. Not my son, not mine, not mine. This is the one time when she was like, yeah, I mean, if you came second, I would have come give you a hug, but, uh,

wow, she wouldn't hug you unless you came second. You did well, you did well. Oh my God. You didn't even get the second. The participation trophy. I know, I know. Brutal. But brought it back with the bean bags.

We had a, bean bags. What? Yeah, did you know have bean bags in your school? Yeah, when I was like five. Yeah, this is like, wait, what do you mean by bean bags? You do about primary or secondary school? Primary school. Yeah, yeah, I think we had.

Wait, you're talking about like a bag race? No, no, no, like there was like hula hoops and you had to like, throw bean bags into it. We didn't start doing like real athletic stuff until high school, secondary school. Oh, yeah, okay. We kind of do like, even the 100 meter, I think we did like 50 meters, not 100 meters.

Really? Yeah, I don't think it's 100. Yeah, we did 100. Um, well, the kids can't run 100 apparently. No, no, apparently. That's too far. I guess it's, yeah, it's like, no, we can't do it. Yeah, because like my high school was like a pretty sports oriented high school.

So like we had, we not only had two athletics days a year, but we also had a- swimming festival. What? Or like a swimming, like, competition? Swimming festival? It was like a swimming, competition. So basically we would go to the local pool, like giant pool area,

public pool area and we would, the school would rent it out for the day and do like a swimming competition of like, you know, different like breaststroke, you know, backstroke, all that kind of stuff. And then we also, during the summer, had a beach sports festival day because our school was right next to a beach. So all the kids would go to the beach and do like beach flags and like, nice, dude. Yeah, and like volleyball and like all that kind of stuff. Like, but the, the, we're to fight in the mud all the time. Because it fucking rains in Wales. I mean, I participate in all of them

except the swimming one because I was never a confident swimmer. So I always looked forward to the swimming contest one because, you know, it's not like, it's basically voluntary. Like if you want to compete in like the 100 meter, you know, backstroke, for example, like, you just have to like tell the teachers

like, I want to compete in it. So like it's not necessary to compete in any if you don't want to. So it was great. Like me and my other friends who were like not competitive swimmers at all, we just like bring out Ds and just fucking play.

D-S all day. Well, we're just watching people just went like, oh yeah, yeah. Did you have to do cross-country? Yes. Yes. Yeah. We had a thing called a walk-a-thon.

Oh. Not a marathon. What the fuck is a walk-th? Well, we just walk-a-thon. We had this walk-a-thon, the St. Paul's Walk-a-thon, which they don't do anymore, which was a charity event that the school organized, where the entire school walks from Manley, which is where our school was, all the way till, I believe it was Long Beach, which is about a 20-kilmer

is one way. Okay. Okay. So the school would basically, you would pay to like go into it and then you'd spend all day just walking with the school from Long Beach all the way back to the school.

So it's 40 kilometer walk. Okay. Essentially. The reason why they got rid of it is because some of the seniors found a hack where they would just, they just would go so far forward to one point where no one else was behind them,

including the teachers. And then they just call an Uber. Oh, okay. And they just call an Uber, go to the checkpoint where they would get stamped on the hand and then Uber back to the school. And then people, and this teachers are like,

all right, we're getting rid of this. That's fucked up. Fair enough. I mean, don't hate the player, hate the game. Exactly, yeah, they played the system, man. Hitted doing long distance stuff. Do you have a, sorry. I hated doing long distance.

Long distance was like the first. I mean, the walking was fine, but yeah, if it was running, yeah. Did you do it also in like September, October? Yeah, yeah, they always did it in September October. The walking thing? The cross country running.

Oh. So it was always muddy, it was always wet, it was always cold. We didn't have cross-country running. Yeah, we didn't have that. Yeah, you'd beach stays and ice cream. Yeah, we would walk along a stretch of five or six beaches. Oh, wow. We could try every craft tea along the way.

Every craft. Hey, it was really hot, man. We had to surf and frolic in the fact. Yeah, exactly. Did you guys have orienteering? Is that what it's called? The one where they teach out to use a map. Oh, yeah, yeah, we did that.

What? No. That sounds awesome. They were just like levers. In the middle of a field. Yeah, they would give us like three days. and there would be like meters at the checkpoint every day where you'd camp and then yeah, you would just have to make you way.

That sounds sick as fuck. Yeah, there was like no tracking devices back then so the kid would literally just get lost. All you had was a good old fashion. Yeah, yeah. Massive fucking backpack as well. Right, so you'd have to like carry the tents and everything.

Yeah, yeah. That sounds, dude, I would fucking do that. Hell yeah. I always brought extra weight because I would always bring like, I would always bring ice packs filled with like bacon. And so like, everyone would be bring like, everyone will not be able to survive out here

without my bacon. No, no, no, no, no, because. Bear grills be like, I drink my piss gonna be like, I gotta need my bacon, baby. No, it's like, you can't imagine, right? Everyone's brought these like shit stuff that like, you know, is like campfire food that lasts like three days. It's all bad.

When you got the squad, right, you've all had like a nine hours of hiking and you're like, boys. And you whip out a 12 pack of bacon, everyone like, it's electric, dude. Everyone's like, there's no one. shot you brought that over here. Connor's like that was the side night in happiness parody of bear girls. Yeah, yeah, guys like reach all the way to the back

to get the freshest milk. Dude, everyone, everyone, you can't imagine the morale booster. Everyone fucking lost it. And I'd bring a bread, like sandwich buns. So I would make sausage, uh, I'd make bacon sandwiches the morning. You can't imagine how ready for a 12 hour hike you are after two bacon sandwiches. You can do anything. I'm pretty sure like half of the UK is powered on bacon. and sausage sandwiches. Like that's, it was so fun.

It was good. Like a king, man. Yeah, right? Yeah, it was, the only worst part about it is that I wish I did it in like, I don't know, Netherlands or something because shit in Wales, it's fucking hills.

You're like, well, is nice. It's nice, but have you seen the topography of Wales? Can you, can you show the topography of Wales just to scare Jerry who lives in Australia? Well, that's, that's why the English took so fucking long to take over it and then just lost it.

They couldn't get the, can you just show the images? Yeah. They're like, we can't hold this shit. Holy shit. We can't hold this shit. No, any of this, yeah, whatever. It's fucked.

Look at that shit. How can you walk through that shit? That couldn't be further from what Australia is. It's just fucking flat. Well, it's like, it's like you, and the worst part is, it's not even like it's one giant mountain, it's just constantly up and down. Yeah, right.

So you're like, oh, I think we're going the right way. We've climbed up four hills and you're like, no, we're going the wrong way, fuck. Damn. Yeah, that sounds cool though, the orientering thing. Yeah, it makes me think about how many, like, life skills. Because, you know, you know, sometimes I meet people

then they don't know how to swim. That's crazy. Like my initial thought is like, how the fuck do you not know how to swim? And then I realized, wait, they lived in a landlock area. Yeah, I mean like, wait, I only know how to swim

because it was specifically part of my school curriculum. Yeah. To, you know, to teach us how to swim. Oh, so wait, how old were you when you learn how to swim? I can't remember. I was in, like, primary school. I don't always know how to swim. I don't know.

What the fuck do you mean you always known how to swim? I think I was born soon. My mother, get the fuck out. I had a water bath. I was swimming in my mom's room. I have no memory. I had a water burst, but the boy, wait, wait. I have no memory of learning how to swim.

Connor had a water birth, but the bath was full. My mom, my mom, my mom. He had to swim to the surface, like, and I would do it again, and I would do it again. It gets bored and like, his mom just like, all right, Chuck's here. What age did you learn how to swim? I was like four or five, I think.

I was definitely younger than that. I was probably about, I was probably about, Four or five as well. Four or five is pretty young to learn out of swim. How far? No, because I think my mom, when I was like, like two, because she used to go to rent all the time.

She would throw me into the ocean. She would take me to the pool as well. Yeah, we started off. I initially had eight brothers. We are the survivors. Yeah, we survived. The Spartans had it right. The ocean.

They had it right. Let them swim. If the water takes them, the water takes them, they weren't worthy. No, I don't, yeah, I think my mom used to take us when I was super, super young, like very, very young. Right, right. Right.

But like, if you're that young, you can barely comprehend where the fuck you are, let alone like, oh, I am in water, if I don't move, I will die. Maybe in Australia, maybe in Australia where, you know, the baby's a little, do-doo. So true. So you have no recollection the first time you, you know, had to learn, get in water

and be like, I have to float. Yeah, you didn't have that moment. where like you would go to your local pool or wherever it was you learned how to sleep, and like you were so afraid to put your face in the water. No, they kept asking me to stop doing that. I would not stop going to the bottom of the pool.

Blod was trying to drown himself. At the age of two, it's like, I'm done, and just like half fish. From like the earliest memory I have until I was like 16, they would constantly tell me off because all I would do is be like, they'd be like, go swim over here. All right, and I would immediately go down

to the bottom of the pool and then swim along the bottom of the pool to where they told me to go and come back up. And they're like, can you stop doing that? I'm like, what the fuck? I was like, why, it's boring. That's crazy. That's not like going to the bottom of the pool?

No, I hate that. That was like a magical place. Oh, I hate it. To me that was like my happy place. Bro, it took me like, I'd say it took me like six months to a year to actually finally like muster up the courage to put my face in the water. Without goggles on.

Without goggles, oh my god, with goggles on, I was like, oh, okay, this is dicey. Without goggles, I was like, just kill me now. I always remember really liking like swimming. So I think I never, I don't think I was ever a point where I wasn't like, huh, like going, like, I think the moment they were like, they taught me how to swim, I was like, mm-hmm,

it's fucking going. Man. My mom is like, she's, oh, she's like a swimming maniac. So I think from a very, very, very young age. I mean, like, my grandma would take me to like the beach and stuff like that when I was like two or three years old, but like, you know, she'd never like, fucking throw me into the deep end and be like, come back.

I think she would just be like, here's how you swim and then I think I was like, I will now proceed to go to the bottom. I was sure, you're not curious? I think I was just curious. I was curious, but it was the biggest, the biggest barrier for me was just my eyes. I was like, if I didn't have goggles on.

You just tank it. I, because the thing is, you just go like, oh, oh. Because I still can't open my eyes under the water. Because my eyes are so sensitive that like, if I, even though for a little bit, my eyes just become, like I look like fucking Konecki in Tokyo, well, my eyes just become like,

and just all black and shit. It's the worst. I can't do it, yeah. I think it was just the thing that you just have to get used to. I guess so. You just tank it. I just didn't.

I couldn't. I'm proud of myself that I even learn how to swim at all. To be honest. I don't know if I would have learned how to swim if I didn't, if it wasn't on my curriculum. Yeah.

I had to have had like several classes. Oh, my mom took me into like swimming school. Yeah, yeah. Normally people who can't swim, normally because their parents can't swim and didn't teach them. I thought it was normal. I don't know.

It's either that or the fact that maybe the parents just like never thought it to be an important skill because maybe they're in a landlocked area. I would feel like I would forget. That would be saying I would, my son would get to like seven. Fuck, I forgot how to teach him out of swim. I knew I was forgetting something. That's definitely something I would do.

I taught him to shave in seven years old. Why did I do that? Connor be the time of dad to be like, all right, son, go play in the water. Actually, that's my dad. Oh shit. That's my dad. My dad never taught me how to shave.

Yeah, I mean either. Me neither. Oh, the moment I grew like a single hair on my face, my dad like comes in, it's like, let me cook, son. You know, you dad loved it. He handed you a peanut no arm. I was like, drink this, shave this. Yeah, drink that, shave that, cut yourself up.

I have to you specifically go out on my way to ask my dad, how do you shave? Because there wasn't like this natural. I use YouTube tutorials. Yeah, I didn't know how. Because I thought, why is this shit hers so much? And I was like, oh, I don't have shaving cream. Oh my God.

Yeah, I was hacking away at it. Jesus. But yeah, because, yeah, yeah. I was on in Sydney as well, and I was like, I was like, how do girls learn how to do makeup? You know, it's, because like, similar to like, you know, dad, she teaching their sons how to shave. Because, you know, all the female audience

can probably fill me in on this, but at least Sydney's experience was, she was like YouTube tutorials as well because I don't think her mom taught her out to do makeup, she was, like self-taught. Even if my mom was telling her, you're like, I don't know, but this person's got tell me in the sub's mom.

Yeah. She's talking about. And she's her eyebrows. are on flea, let me tell you that. Yeah, and Sydney school didn't have a sex education either. Which like to me, it's quite common in America. Is it quite common in America? More so now, I think, they're trying to get rid of,

I mean, even in the UK, they're trying to get rid of some of it. Wait, seriously? What? Really? Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Why? Well, governments are getting more conservative in America and Europe. Okay. So they're like,

you can't teach our kids. About the condoms. We need babies now! Well, yeah. It's, I mean, yeah, they, I, I, I, I, I, Generally more government-tied more, I know in America, dude, some of my,

some of my fondest memories is like the, that first sex education class that you went into. What you, you took, wait, wait, wait. Well, I told you guys about mine when I fainted. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No memories. My, my, my, my memory of, I think it was, when was it was it,

it was like year five, year six, so we were like, what, 10, 11 years old, right? Like, end of primary school. And I remember like, we came to school and there was this teacher that no one had seen before. And we were like, okay, what the fuck's happening? It's like some kind of event happening.

And the teacher was like, okay, class, we're gonna be doing a very important class today and we really want you guys to listen because this will be one of the few times we'll ever teach you about this and it's really important, especially when you become an adult. We're like, all right, let's go for it.

The way the woman started it off was probably the worst way that she could have done it. She was gonna cock. Whippy dick out. No, she was like, okay class, get your index finger. Oh no. Get your index finger.

put it inside your mouth. Now feel the inside of your cheek. And we were like, okay, what the fuck? So we started doing that. And she's like, do you feel that? And we were like, yeah. And she's like, that's what the inside of a vagina feels like.

And all the girls are like, all the guys are like, yeah. No, they would not. No, they would not. I mean, I was like that. For me, that was the biggest disparity of like, oh, I'm, I like video games too. much because when they were talking about the class

and they were talking about all the stuff, I was like, looking around like, you motherfucker's doing this? I barely held a hand. This is what's going on? It's like, y'all just don't spawn in. I remember them talking about like condoms and stuff. What made you faints again?

So that was the moment, when we faint. And then you know what? I remember the other there, because I was talking to Chris and someone else about it. They were like, yeah, why did you get bullied in school? I was like, I don't know. And then I look back, I'm like, oh, because I fainted in sex it.

And everyone thought I was scared of penises. penises. Um, so what happened was we were sitting on a table and they were talking and so I have this a diversion to like slime and grossness. Don't know why, always have, they were talking about, so vile, please, you could skip ahead if you don't want to hear this. They were talking about dis- We've talked about- They were talking about discharge.

Okay, oh, that was- And I've never heard of that. Yeah. And they was describing it and showing it on this like 80s educational video. They were like talking about sometimes the woman will get white goo that comes out of her vagina and for some reason in my like kid head I was like that's the most terrifying thing I've ever heard of my fucking life

and then they had a video clip of like a girl looking at a pants discharge mom I'm discharging no they had a video clip of a woman showing like like goo on her pants and I was like and I just fainted

and then slam and it was I mean it wouldn't have been that bad if I was in like a seat or something because I would have just fainters in my seat or slipped forward but I fainted on the table slam my head on a concrete floor, everyone screamed and ran.

Yeah, and then it became a big thing. And I couldn't see for about a day. I just, I just remember the video that I, it has scarred me for life this educational video that they got us to watch. It's always the 80s and 90s education videos are fucked. Oh my God. Whoever was editing this educational video,

they knew exactly what they were doing. So it was like this very boring presenter talking about childbirth, right? I think I watched the same one. Did you watch the same one? I'm like, describe it because I have an exact same memory of a childbirth video. Okay, okay, because, you know,

he describes it in detail without showing anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then he gets the rubber band. Did you, did you go? Yes! Oh my God, oh my God! We watched the same video, yeah. I think I've seen this one too.

Did we all watch the same one? Probably it's probably, probably the one, yeah. Okay, because I remember, I remember him talking about childbirth and he was like, then when the baby goes out, the vagina, does this. And then I just, I then,

and then I remember the entire class going, oh, it's smash cuts to a baby. That scarred me for life. And it was almost like it was a frame perfect cut of the guy's hand doing this and then it's smash cuts to a baby's head coming out of the woman. And it's just like, whoa!

I have no memory of this. Oh my God, it must be the same video. because I have that image of the baby's head sticking out just ingrained into my memory. And I'm like, yeah, I have no idea. It was terrifying. It's scarier than any horror movie I've ever seen in my life. Oh, were you checking to see if that's what made me faint?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That would be fine. That is, that is like scarred in my memory. Yeah, I will always just remember that, that image of like the hand doing this, and then that's just like the crowning of the baby. I'm just like, oh my God, I never want to have children ever. This looks horrible.

Jesus Christ. How the fuck do we even get on this talk? I don't know. We're talking about school, peaking in high school. We're talking about peaking at high school. Did you ever win any of your sports day events? Again, only the long jump and high jump events. Did you go to like, compete in nationals like they do in the anime?

Nah, I never go. I did compete, when I was doing tennis, I competed at a state level one year. Oh, nice, nice. Yeah, I got fucking destroyed. Yeah, me too. in state level. Yeah, I was like the best in my class and I was like, I am the shit.

I am the next Roger Fed or go to the state championship get smashed match one and I was like, all right, I'm gonna go. Yeah. And that was, I think that was probably the last time I actually did like a proper like sport, like continuous sport. Cause then after that I went to,

because I was like, what, eighth grade, ninth grade, so I was like 14, 15 and then after that I was just like, yeah, I don't really wanna do tennis anymore. I just wanna like focus on doing music. And then yeah, I think that was the last time I did sport. Oh, fuck you. Because I think, yeah, because I feel that's the same

with like a lot of people, right? Like, if you're not, if you're not doing sport in high school, like if you're not in like your sports like rugby team or like your soccer team or whatever it might be, it's really difficult to motivate yourself to continue to do that sport, I feel. Well, because you don't have time. Yeah.

You go to uni and you're like, well, I'm just drinking. Yeah. Also, you know, like if you have a lot of experience growing up with sport, you're probably less intimidated by the idea of starting a new sport or, yeah, getting into it. Yeah.

Like, you know, I think it's, because you know what to expect, you know, you're gonna be shit, you know, you're gonna, you know, you gonna feel good or whatever, like, you know, you know, you know the full range of what to expect. Is there a sport you guys would want to start

at your age now currently? I don't know. Like if you had to pick one sport to start today. It could be one you've done before, it could be a completely new one. I don't know. Not including gym. Ah, well, there was always loads of sports

that I wanted to do that were just too, like, circumstantial or expensive. Yeah, I wanna do water. to sports always seems like a little fun. So while like- I would have loved to done the skiing with the gun. What? You know in the Olympics when they do cross-country skiing?

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. See, that would have been fucking sick, but I'm from a place where you can't fucking do that. Yeah, how do you begin that? Just live in Norway. Yeah. There are some things or some sports where I'm just like, how do people get into this?

Just like. You have to be around the right people growing up, pretty much. That's how a lot of like, you know, a lot of certain sports, You know, you have to kind of be bored into it slightly, really. Yeah, like, I feel that way about when I see, like, F1 drivers. Like, how do you, how do you start that?

That's so true. Like, at what point in your life are you like, Motherfather, I would love to drive a car. It's like, 400, quarters an hour. You can definitely get into it if you'll, you have no background or anything like that, I imagine. But like, obviously it's way easier if, you know, your dad happened to race cars in a spare time.

Yeah, right. Maybe he owns a, he helps, he works at a sports track. Unless you're like that kid in Grand Tourismo, right? I'm just like, win a competition. Yeah, well, that, I mean, that's like a once in a lifetime, right? Yeah. But, like, a lot of these are like,

you have to have some kind of connection that allows you to get into it easier. Like, like, like, motorcross. Yeah. Like, how do you get into that? Like, when I went to the UK, I, I, uh, years ago, I had a friend in uni who did it.

And I asked him how he got into it. He was like, I just live on a farm. I had a bike. And all my mates had bikes. I was like, oh, okay. Yeah, you just have to spawn in the right biome. Yeah, I was like, I don't know anyone who did that. No one knew me had it, like, I don't know where the fuck

you were doing this. Me neither. Because I'm sure fucking 15 year old me would have gone crazy on that motorcycle. I would have, I would have risked it all for a flip. Yeah, I would not have. Probably have severe brain damage, but woulda look cool. Yeah, I see, the moment where I realize

I am definitely not like an adrenaline junkie in any way when it comes to sport is when I, huh? You hate theme parks for one, but also So when I used to skateboard, I was never that kid that was like, I'm gonna learn that next new trick. For me, it was like, I just wanna learn how to ride, learn how to turn, learn how to stop.

That's all I wanna do. The best I could do was like, I landed a kickflip once. I couldn't even do that, but like, you know, seeing, seeing, like, going from that to like, you know, have you seen the videos of like the longboards where they're literally going like 50 yards? And they're like doing like prancing on it and shit. Like, I see that.

And it blows my mind, right? Because not only because like how impressive it is, because of how dangerous it is, how many times do you need to fuck up in your life to be able to get that good? Yeah. And you know, how much hurts have you gone through to be able to get that good and still have no fear to be able to do that.

Oh no, I think like people who can do that have probably. Something wrong with their brain. Yeah. It's that and also. You have to. Yeah. It's that and also a little bit of like, yeah, like self-discipline as well.

Like this, the fact that someone can go on a skateboard at really fast pace, fucking land face first on the concrete, right? And then pick themselves up and go, let me try that again is just insane to me. Like I can't, if I felt like that even once, I'd be like, I'm never touching this thing ever again. Yeah, I think that's what makes people so fucking cool in a sense that we could just like turn off

that part of our brain that's like, you, this is dumb. Yeah, you could die. You die now. Like every animal, like an animal would run away if it's in danger. Humans are like, I will now die. Humans are like, well, I'm not dead yet. Yeah, it's so weird.

I can keep going, baby, I can keep going. The survival urge we can turn off at well. It's just weird. It's wild, man. You have no interest in dying. But I mean, I'd say out of the three of us, you are the biggest like, fuck it, I'm gonna do it. I mean, like, I like adrenaline stuff,

but I don't like, like, for me, there's a very clear distinction between like, skateboarding and like bungee jumping or jumping out of a plane. Yeah, because like- You like the momentary. It's momentary but also like, I know I'm gonna hurt myself a bunch on the skateboard until I get it right.

Right, yeah, I'm gonna fall a bunch. Yeah. The bungee jump, if that chord snaps, I'm dead. Yeah. That's one and done. So you're the kind of person. I'm not gonna be like beat up while doing it. If it all goes right, I won't be hurt.

Well, you'll be dead. Yeah, we did. Like skateboarding, you're just like, you're just perpetually being beaten the fuck up. So you like the type of I don't really enjoy that. Yeah, you're the type of adrenaline junkie

where it's, if you die, it's a quick. Yeah, yeah, you just wanna die immediately. Yeah. Well, I should wanna be hurt. Like, I don't wanna be like, yeah. Like, you know, I would, you know when you hear like these horrible accidents where like someone has a parachute doesn't

yeah, open up and then they're like, they're like, they get turned with like vegetables or something, so they hit, the brain gets like, fucked up so bad from whatever. It's like, I'd rather just die. Yeah, I'd be like, that's, you know, just rather not have to deal

with the medical bills. Bro, you know my American, yeah. That joke, that joke doesn't pass. Doesn't work, doesn't work. Japan, they would, I'd pretty die there because the ambulance would be like politely moving through traffic. Have you noticed that?

Why do the ambulance just not rush here? They drive at a normal speed through traffic, but they make everyone part and then they go 30 miles and out. Yeah. You're like, what the fuck are you doing? Someone's dying. Your sirens are on.

Go faster. Have you known? Maybe. Well, maybe. Knowing that that could be you. Well, maybe. You could be like waiting, dying. And it's just the ambulance, like, see my thing?

Oh no, this. What stresses me? I was seeing an, seeing an ambulance in Thailand and you're on like the fucking highway. It is gridlocked. And then- I'd be like carry me, bros. Carrey. We got better odds.

Yeah. We got better odds here. Come on, call the Uber. Just play coffin dance right now. And then you see an ambulance come in and it's just like got a sirens on and people are trying to get out of its way. The problem is you just can't.

There is no space to get every lane is taken. I think you just get some cable ties and put me onto a bike and hope for the best, right? Or again, just like, get the EMTs to just like carry you and just fucking, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da- like in between the cars. They must double up, right?

They're probably be faster. They're gonna double up in the Amnesty's in Thailand. They're like, we have a funeral service flyers. It's like, you are not making, if we don't help you, the paramedics, you're done. Yeah, we're done, yeah, we'll carry you. It depends on the time day, it's rush hour?

Okay, we came with a coffin, actually. Yeah, you were, yeah. Like the outside transforms, like transformers like a blanket, like all the paint changes. We're going from the hospital to the funeral director right now. Yeah, the E&T guys, like changing the suits. They're like quick, turn the ambulance siren down 400%.

He goes, instead of going, wee-woo, it goes, woo-oo, woo. You and now, dad. Damn. Yeah, no, I, you know, uh, yeah, we would rather just die. Have you ever like actually been in an ambulance before? Never. Never.

Yeah, me neither. I've only ever been in an ambulance when someone else got hurt. Hoping I don't get that either. Yeah, yeah. I'm hoping, I mean, none of us has broken a bone. Yeah. I'm shocked you've never broken a bone. I'm sprained stuff. Yeah, I've, I've, what's the worst injury you've ever had in your life? I think we've talked about this before.

We have, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I've had some bad, bad tumbles, but somehow never broken, maybe because I just drink too much milk. Calcium 2 O.P. My bones are like my ass than I ever had a near death experience?

Probably. Do you ever think, like, so white about. Do you think of like how many near death experiences you've had and not realized it? Yeah. Yeah. You ever think about that?

Yeah. You know, like, have you had a, you've been driving in a car, like comes way too close to you? You've been in the car while the car's just way too fucking close. Yeah, yeah. you're like, that dude was not paying attention.

But you're like, oh, okay. Yeah, but I was in the taxi, right? The taxi driver, for some reason, there was a sidewalk, but the guy in Japan, like middle of the night, he was walking in the road, like middle of the lane in the road. It's a three lane, free lane road. So one, two, three, all the traffic going the same direction.

Japanese guy near the sidewalk, he was in the middle of the lane, not near the, like, even the barrier, in the middle of it. And we were at a red light. And this guy, the taxi driver is flashing his lights, like, straightforward. And I'm like, there's no way this guy can't see him.

So I didn't say anything. Yeah. Because I was like, there's literally a guy walking in the middle of the road. Right. And so the taxi driver starts going. And I'm like, oh shit, he doesn't see him. So I, like, just start shouting non-verbal noises.

Like, oh, no, no, no, no, no. Because he's just going straight. Taxi driver, the fucking quickly swerves into the next lane. Luckily, there's no other car in that lane. Right, yeah. Fucking throws it back, breaks really fucking. And like, I was sitting there like, either that guy would have died

or we or someone else would have died from crashing into a car if, if there was no other car there. It was super lucky. Let me ask, how old was this taxi driver? Oh, like 80. All of them are. Yeah.

It's terrifying, dude. I get in some of these taxi sometimes. Some of them, I'm like, I don't think. You should not be behind the wheel. Well, because I asked them like, hey, my address is this. And then they're like,

they can't even like touch the touch. I'm like, ah, I just feel like you should be retired. It's like, I'm gonna go walk. Like, it's not on you. Like, I feel bad that you have to do, or maybe you wanna do this job. I don't know, but you should be relaxing and enjoying your retirement.

You shouldn't have to be 80 something years old in a taxi. Totally. I feel bad, but also it's terrifying sometimes and you're like, I just, yeah. No. It's a phenomenon only found in Japan, I think. Totally.

You either die a villain or you live long enough to see yourself become a tax. Yeah, this is why I went like, Like people like, man, what's the, like, how is Japan dealing with the ever aging crisis? You know, it's gonna be so interesting how they're dealing with. I'm like, bitch, they're dealing with it. They make them work somehow.

I don't know how the hell like you want to become a taxi driver or you become one of those dudes at every construction site that holds the sign or lets guide people to go in a certain direction. Don't be wrong, I think I'd always wanna do something. Like I think I'd always wanna be doing some kind of work. Oh no, for sure. But like, you know, sometimes-

But it doesn't have to be physical, you know? Yeah, yeah, I feel that like there's gotta be a better job. It's nice, right? I don't know, man. I don't know, you like driving. I like driving, but I don't think I'd like driving. I've met so many Uber drivers who are just like, yeah, this is just my hobby. I just like driving people.

Especially, especially in like America. I've met a lot of Tyson drivers in America that, you know, they do Uber just not even like, because they need to. It's just like a hobby. Yeah, it's just extra change. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just like, yeah, I have a successful business, but just didn't know. know what else do with my time and I love driving and uh I mean dude my dad I remember

uh like early this year he he finally retired um officially and I was like dad what are you gonna do for your retirement and he was like he's thinking about driving a bus and I was like what it's like that's not retirement that's just changing jobs and he's like yeah but I want to do something and I'm like and your and your decision is to drive a fucking bus it's like why and he's like well, I like driving and, you know, the bus seems challenging and fun. And then when I met up with him last month, I was like, you're still gonna drive that bus?

And he's like, no. It's like, I've heard too many horror stories about bus drivers. We're sure, you're 65, really recently now it's gonna be 75 when we retire. Yeah, probably. People are age. You're 75, you get to pick one job to retire. What are you doing?

You can be anything. It doesn't matter if it doesn't make sense monetarily or financially. What's the, one job you do? Author. Okay, yeah. Shit, you're gonna be an author?

Yeah, why not? What are you writing about? I mean, I've had 75 years of my life to live, like I can write about my experiences, I can write about anything that I feel like, you know, like at this point, like I feel, even nowadays, like anyone can write a book about anything and people will read her, right?

So, and it's- And- So fucking dumb now, people are, if people are dead, Chris can be a Sunday time, yeah, so that's true. Yeah, I'm- I can do it, right? Fucking easy, whatever.

Yeah, but like, I think a job like that is good because it's not physically taxing, right? So it'll be a lot easier on me. And also it's, I feel like I would want to do the kind of jobs that use my brain. So make sure that my brain is staying active and like I don't, you know, become like, oh, where am I kind of old-posed?

Gantz, what about you? I don't know, farmer. Fuck, no, you don't know what a farm. You can't even be a farmer now. No, no, no, no, not like. You are not physically able to farm right now. Not like a fucking, you know, like a, you know. What do you think farmers do?

Just, you know. Do you think they just wake up and be like, oh, that's a nice farm anyway? That's a nice, modest farm for want. I'm going to go feed the chickens and then lie down for the afternoon. Like, they don't do that. Yeah, they do. I'm kidding.

I'm kidding. I think like if you were like farming for just your own. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Basically, you just like, you know, kind of like your own food. Yeah. I thought we were talking about retirement here. No, I would do that. That's retiring.

I'm talking about what is the job that you would do if you could retire. If you had to have a job while being retired. I would probably do the farming too while I'm being the author. Oh, if I could have any job? Yeah, I'll tell you mine. I'll tell you mine.

Okay, mine, I would love to just open a coffee shop and just absolutely bleed money. Don't even care if it makes money. Actually, yeah, that is one thing I have been wanting to do in my retirement is open up a record store. Yeah, just something that I don't, like, hopefully, like I... I don't care if I make money off of it.

Yeah, the idea is hopefully that I've bought the land with the building that it's in, so I can just like fucking be like, yeah, I don't give a fuck. I just want one of those things where it's like, the first floor is the store and then the second floor is where you live, kind of situation. So it's like, I just wake up, I go downstairs,

I'm in my store. Just love the idea of getting the most, like, banging coffee in the morning and just chatting with people. Just being that, I wanna be that old guy I just talks to everyone. It's like, back in my day. Implations, fuck.

I wanna say outrageous stuff, and then have everyone, Everyone just think like, he's old. Just say the wildest things. I'm not gonna say what my doctor was. Don't ask about my taxes and then 2024. We don't talk about it. I can just imagine you like recounting

like old memes and stuff like that and you're always like, I'm not gonna say what my doctor was. He was a Jewish doctor. I will not be saying that, Joey. No, he's not going to turn into Kanye. This old man's crazy, but this coffee is so good. I am not turning into Conno.

What the fuck, Joey? Why? You're old, who cares? No. No, I mean, I would love to just open, maybe not a coffee shop, but just like a random store. I'm addicted to coffee, so. Yeah, you are addicted to coffee. I've already projected my life.

Yeah, see, coffee shop makes sense, record store makes sense. What store would you open in your retirement? So we're just open the stores now. We're just, yeah, I mean, yeah, it's just, you know, something that you can do what, well, also being able to bleed money and not have to worry about, oh, can I make it? You see that video of that guy in New York

just like sells pigeons or some shit. What? And it's just like the most random thing in the world. Like a pet store? Um, I can't remember if he sells pigeons, but it's like a, it says like a business to do with, wait, hold on, Paul. Is it, is it, oh, okay, I was about to say,

are they alive pigeons or it's like pigeon meat? No, no, no, a live pigeons. Oh, okay, okay. Can you use those up like New York store pigeons or something? I saw, every time I see a video of New York, I just think that New York is some kind of like, it feels like some kind of computer-generating like place.

It's like a GTA city. It like doesn't feel real. It feels like a testing ground for everything in humanity. It's a pigeon store. He just sells, it just sells pigeons. Well, people need pigeons. I presume that it's a pigeon store. Do people need pigeons in fucking New York of all places?

Wait, wait, you know there's like, okay, you know there's competitive pigeon racing, right? Yeah, I know that. Yeah, there's like, still. People could race pigeons competitively. Also people also. And like, I think, yeah, pigeons go for, like horses. They go for, so.

So much money because getting the fastest pigeon like breed is really expensive. Also a lot of people have started to like own pigeons as pets as well. Just like not like they're like I'm sick of like buddry guards. I don't want to pet the shit that can cause cancer. I want to get on this level of niche. Okay. It's just like a store where it's like a store where you just sell something. It just the most outlandish thing.

What do you want to sell? Toneals. All right play the video. I want to sell. Play that first one. The first one. I wanna sell lizards. Why not?

You just want a pet store. Maybe I do want a pet store. Now actually, pet store actually sounds lit. Okay, okay, open it up. You know what? I wanna open a pet store. That's what I wanna do.

Yeah, pet store sounds fine. Pet store sounds like a fuck ton of work. You gotta clean so much. Yeah, but. Yeah, but you'll be retired by then. You get so many cool ones. You can hire people to do that, right? Oh no, fuck no.

You'd just be the owner. Maybe just a bird store. I've kind of been obsessed with the idea of getting birds now. Every time there's like a pet store, right outside our place and there's like, every time they have like new birds. Even though your pets, your house priest is like no pets,

I don't know, a bird's pretty chill. You can just easily get a bird, right? Probably. Because it's a cage, right? I mean, unless you get a bird that makes a lot of noise. Yeah, you know. Wait, you get a big parrot. So you're chill.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I've been playing, but you know, right now I travel a lot. Parrots would be fucking sick, just having someone mimic you. That'd be so sick. I mean, our parrot does that. Yeah, that'd be cool.

Yeah. You guys think you have self-prison Yeah, I think so. Yeah? What do you mean by that? But the ability to keep yourself alive. Yeah, have you ever had a moment where, you know,

something bad could happen, right? When does, you know, when does that moment happen, when that moment happens, do you feel like a switch in your brain to be like, oh, I'm just living my daily life to like, oh shit, something serious is actually happening? Yeah, I think, I think one thing that I've been very grateful for is that I don't really ever panic. Even in like very stressful situations

and I'm around people that are freaking out. I'm like, all right, let's figure out what we can do. That's your logical brain coming in, yeah. I mean, you know, being around people who stress a lot, you're like, oh my God, is it not getting tiring, being fucking panicking all the time? Yeah, sure fuck out. I mean, I'm kind of like that too,

but at the same time I catch myself to be like, maybe I should be panicking a little more. Like, okay, let's say for example, we, you know, you feel an earth, Yeah. At which point in your brain, okay, maybe you're in bed or something like that, right? Earthquake happens. Start shaking a bit.

At which point do you like switch off from just like, oh, there's just like an little shake to like what is the moment when you actually, that you would actually get you out of bed to be like, honey, get out, get under the fucking bed frame right now. For me it would be if the earthquake throws me out of bed. That's your line? I don't know if I'm too logical, but I live in an apartment building and if anything falls on my head,

I think it's like Donzo. I think the apartment's gonna collapse completely. Oh, yeah, that's true. And maybe I'd have a chance to live through the rubble, though, if I went in the door frame, but like very minute still. But at that point, I'm like, I'm like a Rick and Morty fan.

I'm like, the odds of me surviving this is so low, please just take my life. So your logical brain is just like, I'm gonna die anyway. So, uh, whatever, right? Let's just like hit the snooze button. Well, apparently there's an earthquake the other night. night, nighttime.

I don't think my phone went off. My phone hasn't gone off any of these earthquakes. I'm kind of worried. My phone went off. Why does my phone not go off? Mine hasn't, there's been so many earthquakes this year, just like, just within this year. How does that work?

I don't know. Like, why, why? I feel like this is something that we should know about. Like, yeah. Hey guys, my natural disaster stuff doesn't work. Anyone else? Because I remember a few years ago, maybe even like just as early as last year,

I would get woken up to these alarms, you know, the ones that are just like, Like the most traumatic sound you'll ever hear in the middle of the night. And I'm like, oh fuck, here comes the earthquake. And it's like, like fucking nothing. And I was like, was that it? The problem with that alarm now is I heard it the other day

when I was just like, we were sleeping. It was like early, early in the morning. But because I've heard it so much now, it's just conditioned me. It's like the boy who cried wolf. Yeah. You hear this alarm and you're like, and you're like, eh, it's gonna be fun.

It's gonna be fine. You know, and all it takes is that one fucking major earthquake to really fuck you up. Yeah. It's just, I don't mean, we weren't here for the 2011. So I'm sure if we were here for the 2011, it might traumatize it a bit more. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. So I always think, has there ever been a moment when something has switched in my brain to be like, oh shit, I need to like get into like self-preservation mode? Or am I like, have you seen like the Belarus like explosion? Well, like you see the explosion. and half the people are just like by the window. Oh, you mean the one in Lebanon?

Oh, sorry, is it a Lebanon? The nitrogen explosion? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Beirut. Oh, that's it. Okay, Bay route. No, yeah, I have seen that one, yeah. Yeah. Would you think you are that guy

who was like ducking under the cover? Or are you that guy that's just like, warping at like this big explosion. I'm just standing on the window. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sure like, you know, we've all seen explosions. I'm sure people just couldn't comprehend how big that explosion was.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like, and also you see it and then you don't hear it, you see the shockwave hits you before you hear it, right? So it's, I can understand why people would kind of be dumb and not realize that, hey, maybe just get behind cover and put your phone up there instead. Yeah, just have a look, you know?

Yeah, it's always like, my apartment is Dunzer if there's a big earthquake, by the way, because I've got so much shit that is shoddily stacked on top of itself. Oh, same. It's, it's Gigi. Yeah. If there is a big earthquake,

my apartment is fucked. Yeah, I mean, we've tried to like earthquake proof our apartment as much as possible, but everywhere except my room, which has the most stuff in it. Oh, me too, me too. And it's Gigi. The rest of my house might be fine,

my room is Gigi. What would be the thing that kills you, you think? In your room. In my room? All my fingers would fall over. I mean, I have, like, I have a, I have pretty much on every single wall, I have like some kind of thing hanging on it.

I have a giant figurine, shelf that's like- I swear to God, if it's guts that kills you, that would be like, oh my god. My giant gut statue, just like, the sword just comes down on me. This is like a scene from Final Destination. Joey's, Joey's in an other thing.

He falls over, then the gut statue just like slices me. Probably will, honestly. That thing's massive. Oh my God. Yeah, probably. Yeah, something's gonna fall on me, like a shelf or something might fall on me.

Or like, honestly, with the amount of like heavy stuff, that I have in there. Yeah. More likely than not, it's not something falling on me. It's me falling through the floor. When is, when is the mega quake predicted for? I don't know.

I can you Google it, when's the mega quake? They've been predicting a met, because obviously the plates like slide up on each other. Yeah, yeah. So 30% in the next 10 years, 70%, 70% in the next 30 years and around 90% within the next 40 years.

Terrifying it. Yeah, so that's in our lifetime. We're gonna feel that. We're gonna be. But they've also said the same thing about Mount Fuji erupting as well. Yeah. Apparently they said I think like 10, 20 years ago

was supposed to erupt and it still hasn't yet. So how just over if it erupts? Not because the last time it erupted, I think was during the Edo period. And that- Let's put some water on it. It's an ocean right there. It's just fucking, yeah, 1707 was the last time it erupted.

I wonder how violent it, at Leo. I actually don't know. Is it just like a little, A little fart, like a little... Interrupted! When the one of Iceland erupted and the ash stopped like planes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just insane.

Does it say how many, the damage, especially the deaths from the disasters plus the tsunami's hard to untangle. Oh yeah, because it caused a tsunami as well. Yeah. Oh my. Well, at least maybe the tsunami would help put it out a little bit. Okay, the estimated 8.6 magnitude earthquake likely triggered. It's not a fucking house fire, Connor. Get the hose!

God's like, all right, don't worry, I'm gonna put out this fire. Does feel cruel that like with a major earthquake, you also get a tsunami. It just feels like, like, so unfair. It's like, hey, I know you guys might have just survived that. Here is a giant fuck ton of water. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so it says the earthquake triggered the eruption.

So there is a chance that this big earthquake, this Nankai earthquake, that is predicted to happen might be the thing that sets it off. In which case, I don't know, man, we might be fucked. Well, are we so fucked. I mean, Tokyo is going to be fucked

from the eruption, 100%. Yeah. Because, like, if the, I mean, the lava flow will be fine, but the ash is going to... What's the Japanese plan? What's the plan of action when Fuji erupts?

Man, I fucking know. They haven't had to think about this for 300 years. Maybe they built, maybe they built like a Mario Kart-esque track, right? And divert all of the lava into the ocean. They stack a bunch of obsidian.

Isn't that the plot to volcano? Is it really? I think so. Well, that seems like a simple plan. Just do it. Like the moment they hear the eruption, the government's like, all right, play the song. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da.

Everyone starts putting obsidian trails down to like lead the lava into the water. Everyone goes like creative Minecraft. Yeah, yeah. I swear that. If they could find a way to unified trainotakus to do stuff in Japan, This country's unstoppable.

That's why the economy is to go into shit because they haven't found a way to harness train otakus. Or just any otaguas. Mainly train otakos. Yeah. Because otakos don't want to leave their house, but train otakus,

they travel the globe for that. Oh, yeah. And if you get in their way, they will wish death upon you and your entire family. I remember I played that arcade game, the one with a train simulator once. Oh yeah.

I played for about five minutes. Came out and there was like four dudes in conductors outfits, angrily waiting. They need to be done. I was like, dude, that game is unironically fire. Which one is this? So in some arcades there's a booth

and it's just a train conducting booth. And you pretend to be a train conductor. It's just train simulator? Oh yeah, there's no points, there's nothing. It's very accurate. There's a long with the points, but it's really hard. So what- I did the one that was no points. It was like a normal thing.

Oh, okay, I played the one where it's like, you go into like a small little room and there's like three screens surrounding you. Yeah, yeah, the one on the left there. Wait, is there points in this? Yeah, there's points in it. Oh, I definitely did this one. And I remember thinking it was cool

and then I felt embarrassed because these guys looked like really like, come the fuck on, you casual. Yeah, it's really like finicky and it's really accurate to how the actual trains running Japan. Yeah, because what you have to do is like, you start off at a station.

Yeah, you have to start off at the station and you have to basically go from station to station like a train conductor, but it's really difficult because not only do you have to get to the station perfectly on time, but you also have to control how fast you leave the station, like the acceleration,

and how slow you have to decelerate. And it's so sensitive. Do you think train otakus want to be train conductors? If they're going through this, when he hopes to play like a train simulator, why not just do your passion? Do your passion, right? Maybe it's not as easy.

Yeah, you know, in Japan, following your passion has never been an easy thing to do. No. And once you're normally in a job, you're normally locked in for life. Yeah, that's so I think there was just like, I don't know. Just the only way they can achieve their goals.

They're not really good at coping. They're good at like professional coping. Yeah. They're like, well, I wanna be a train conductor, so I'll just do it in my spare time and work a full-time job in a video game. Yeah, no, legit. Well, yeah, I mean, I'm sure,

I'm sure there's no short, I mean, I don't know what the train industry is like in Japan, but you know, every, every, everyone needs train conductors, there are a lot of trains running. Oh, I mean. Hard to say, man, like, I feel, would there even be like job applications open?

Like, how do you go and find a job? How do you get it to train conduct? Yeah, they're doing. What is the career? How do you become a train conductor in Japan? Just curious, you know? Yeah. Yeah, but there is a part of me that's like,

I kinda wanna try it out. Seems pretty- You see the guy? I saw an article the other day on some Japanese thing where the driver of a train got suspended or lost his job because he had like a tab of anime open on his like dashboard. Was it Rail Wars?

If it, well, yeah, and like one of the customers snitched. What the fuck? I was like, bro, bro, bro's just going, dude, dude, let him watch some anime on the side, bro. I'm sure with that. They were like, yeah, I saw him watching Sawyerline. I can't believe the fuck. Let's see, in order to become a Shinkansen driver,

you must have worked two years as a station attendant, two years as a conductor, and two years as a 1067 millimeter gauge train driver. What's the fucking difference? Xinxenzen drivers must take a national examiner. Okay, so you need a license for it, obviously. Chinga Sen drivers must not wear white socks. What? Wait, why not?

Wait, why? And most people hired are between 23 to 27 years of age. Train drivers need to have Japanese citizenship. All right. That makes sense. But, why are the socks? How much the train conduct, how much does Shinkansen drivers get paid in Japan? That's the weirdest, like, job specification I've ever heard in my life. You're like, you turn up in the job interview, would you like, you turn up in the job interview?

in the job interview with white socks. They're like, it's like, get out. You failed, you failed. They make 75K a year. That's how our day to this article is. This is about 75,000 USD. It's not. It is not that anymore.

Oh, I wish we had that ratio. Yeah, yikes. That sounds like, you know, not to like besmech it at all, but for the amount of experience in exams you had to do, $50,000, it's not a whole lot. No. Like, I feel like if that was a position in Europe or America,

you'd definitely be getting double that. Yeah. Well, because the amount of time as well, you probably have to just sink into not only doing the license. But then again, it's like, I think it's a total six years. You have to be like conducting a regular train. Yeah. It's like kind of fucking crazy.

That's a lot. There's a lot. Come on, JR. Pay your shin guns and drive is better. But did you hear about that? There's also like a court case where JR was, they were, I think they were docking the driver's pay by like 100 yen

because he was like one minute late. So they took off 100 yen because it was like the equivalent of what like a minute of his time was worth. Yeah, right. And he went to court. He was like, this is bullshit. For 100 yen?

I think it was more about the message that he was like, you can't dock my, you can't take away my pay. Yeah, because I'm one minute late. And I think he won. Well, yeah, rightfully so. It's one minute. Yeah, I think maybe.

like, yeah, it's just, isn't that insane that, like, can you, when was the last time you could do that in like America or Europe or you could take away pay? God knows. I'm, I'm, I'm, must be against a lot of labor laws. Oh, yeah, I'm sure. That's what I would imagine in a lot of other countries. I'm not sure what the labor laws are.

I mean, look, don't get me wrong. It takes money off for being one minute late instead of 100 yen, type that instance. I mean, don't get me wrong. I love the fact that, you know, the trains in Japan are so sensitive. when it comes to like what time they leave, what time they take off all that kind of stuff. Love it, you know, not taking that for granted, but man, one minute, it ain't,

it ain't any skin off my back, man, like. And you know they ain't got any policy for overtime work as well. No, hell no. Hell no. These types of companies, you know. You know, I do like the, the, how on time it is.

Yeah. I mean, yeah. It is great. Yeah, it's working. Coming from England, you know, it works. Well, that's the thing, right. It's like, I'm comparing to Australia, where it's like 30 minutes late

and the conduct is like, oh, sorry, mate. It's like, doesn't even feel bad about it at all. I think rail is obviously very well funded in Japan in general, so it's, you know, it's a hard comparison to make because... Oh, of course. I think there's a lot of money, and also a lot of money is made

because people ride them a lot. But I guess it's tough. It is. Yeah, here it is. What is this? Two drivers who had to pay... Train driver who had his pay cut for being one minute or late

is awarded 45 cents after he died. Wait, this is even... more, what is even more fucked up? What is that article? Why, what? A Japanese court has ordered the 59 year old driver's employer to pay back wages that had been docked for the lateness. After he died.

After he died. What? After he died of an illness. This is an onion article, I swear to fucking God. There is absolutely what? Oh my God, I need to make a video on this. This is insane. He was supposed to drive an empty train

Empty train, but he accidentally went to the wrong platform and started driving the train one minute later than schedule. One minute later. That is kind of unhinged. I think I can understand if you're five minutes late and they're not happy because given how people it is. But like one is. One minute.

One is not noticeable. People don't, yeah, people don't notice one minute. It takes one minute to get like the doors fucking closed. Like most watches are one minute off. Yeah. You know like no one's gonna notice. That is. That seems excessive to dock for one minute. And the fact that they were like,

they turned around was like, man's dead, we'll give him back as well. Yeah, yeah. They're like, here's your pay. Here's 45 cents, fam. This is, this is like satire, I swear to God. This can't be real. Man died, here's your 45 cents.

Our bad, actually. Our bad. Yeah, it was in nice news, I would be convinced this was an onion. Yeah, it was in Okayama. Oh my God. Yeah, the West Japan Railway to return the 45 cents

and reduce pay to the driver. Holy shit. What do they say? Scroll on a little bit. Maykaw said that though being a minute late doesn't seem like a big deal. Enforcing punctuality with such strictness was a way for training companies

to control their employees. It's a way to constantly watch your employees and if they make a mistake, they'd carry out pretty severe punishments like pay cuts or layoffs. You can make you write reports saying you'll never make the mistake again. What the fuck?

Is this like primary school? Like writing a letter to your teacher? Actually, I read something else as well that apparently, can you Google if this is true? I think sometimes if they were late And I think they've been, I think they, they are changing this now. But they used to make train conductors

who were late do, um, clean toilets. Really? Yeah, if they were late. Like in the bullet trains and stuff. Yeah, so, bullet trains,

but normal trains, because you know, Japan had a really bad, a really bad horrific, like, train accident. Because a guy was going too fast into a corner. Yes, yes.

That was like 10 years ago? He, like, derailed the train. And there was obviously a lot of, People were like, how does it, how does this happen? When they started looking into it, they realized, holy shit, if they're late even one minute, the penalties are so severe, they were forced to take risks,

aka speeding up when they shouldn't have been. But there shouldn't be a case where like, you have to speed up to make this deadline and risk the tons of lives. Yeah. And so then I think there's a lot of scrutiny and then some things were forced to change, but obviously not everything changed.

Yeah, this article was from 2011. Yeah, that's... J.R. West. Clean toilets and cut weeds as punishment for train delays and other lapses. Yeah. Oh, damn, man. But I think when that, I think,

I don't think they still do it now, hopefully. I hope not. I hopefully. Isn't that crazy? Joey, you're one minute late. Go and clean the toilet, you piece of shit. If I, if you had said that at this office, I would quit.

I would quit. I would complain. I'm going to be on toilet duty. Bro, you would. You'd be perpetually in the toilet. Yeah, if we actually enforce that in this office, Gar would be cleaning this one. So much, I'd be, this office would be spotless.

Our fucking office would be like, recording sessions would be half of me taking a shit and then the next half would be like me cleaning the shit that I just took. Yeah. And then we'd have a five minute recording session. Yeah, oh my God. Yeah, I hope they don't enforce this anymore,

because that is absolutely immoral. Yeah, I mean, mentalities are very different. I feel like at least in Weston, we've gone a lot in the opposite direction where we're like, you know. Would be too lax? There's certainly, but two lacks, but then like any kind of then,

punishment of any kind seems too much. Right, right. You know, we're not used to. Yeah, true, true. Well, you go to London and it's just like, nine times out of 10, there's gonna be a strike going on. Yeah.

But then it's like, you know, that like, you also shouldn't like, you know, first of all, you should never have to punish workers. You should never need to ever, ever do that. No. But also there's just, you know, people. Just a little spanking.

Just a little. Just a little spanking. It's a little slap. You know, people aren't getting paid enough and they're overworked. So it's like, you know, what do you, like, who are you to blame? If anyone these fucking rich assholes

who make all the rules and don't give any of the money to the services that we need. Yeah. They should be getting spanked and made clean toilets. Yeah. Every time they fucking decide to cut budget and send money into shit that doesn't matter or, you know, funnel money into other tax loopholes

for dumb shit with people. Fucking annoying, man. Welcome to the world. Yeah, world's a cruel place, man. Capitalism. Yeah, it's fucking annoying. That's how it all ends. Capitalism.

It always ends in that. But like people in Japan, they'll hear this, I don't many people will be like, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, they'll be like, yeah, but that's Shogunai, bro. Yeah, they're like, well, you know, there needs to be consequences. And you're like, God damn. Like, don't you work a job, don't it? Like, take one step into these people's shoes,

and you won't be saying that shit. Yeah. Well, Japan, they like being harsh on everything. Yeah. Well, it's like they'll be very harsh on some things, you know, like they'll go, like, you know, I mean, obviously with all the stuff that made the rounds is all the tourist stuff.

They'll pick the most extreme solution to mundane problems. Yeah. And then when there's actually a problem, they'll be like, ah, shogunai, yeah. No, no. It's too difficult to tackle. Have you seen the guy who was at the Hachigo statue

with like the massive sign? Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, Kyle, can you put it up? Which one? Search up. So there was this guy who was apparently standing outside of Hachko statue with a massive sign for tourists. Okay.

With just like, do's and don'ts. And this is like, you know when you like. Oh, it's the one, second row third. Yeah, that one. That one? Yeah. This is like going through the terms and conditions. Look how big this is.

Look at this. Welcome to Japan. But zombie traveler prolifer. A separation alert. Stop forcing English. Japanese people also have privacy. You are a pervert and a stalker. What are you guys doing?

Kabukicho is not a place for sightseeing. Yes, it is. Don't wander around with a can of alcohol. Bro, you look at some of this and you're like, have you seen your salary men? Yeah. Do not carelessly enter entertainment facilities and game halls managed by adult entertainment businesses.

Why? They're there for a reason. You can live without a trash can on the street corner. Okay, I mean, I agree with that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is it okay for you to be there? Japanese trains are a meditation space. Okay, look, I get...

No, my favorite part is right at the bottom. Japan travel tips. Heart. Anyway, after all of those, here's some places I recommend. Okay, look, I get... There's a part of me, I'm looking at this from both sides.

I get the whole thing, of okay, it is true, there are a ton of tourists in Japan. Oh no, most definitely. Absolute shitheads, right? Like being completely disrespectful, you know, not realizing that there are different, you know, ethical rules for different countries and stuff like that.

And then on the other side of the coin, you get people like this who are trying to send that kind of encouraging message to not be a dickhead to these tourists, but just doing it in the worst way possible that just makes them look like dickheads, you know what I mean? Like, I mean, I think it's insane just to, like, just to see how big of a boom in tourism

that Japan has gotten to the point where it's just like, I don't know if the infrastructure is like prepared for it. Especially a city like Kyoto, which, oh my God, yeah. Well, they had the, what was it? They shut down, they had to shut down the, the Goyendori, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they had to shut that down. I just think, oh man, it's so weird.

Like the whole Fuji debacle was, Oh, the wall that they made? Was like, you're gonna explain for anyone who doesn't know. Yeah, so there was the Lawson's, people could have taken pictures of because it looks cool, it looks like Japan, there's a Fuji in Lawsons. Yeah.

And there was a whole conversation around, like, why are they doing this? You know, why are tourists so stupid? Why are they turning up and taking pictures? And then we're like, when you actually like look, when you actually like have a, a think as to what's going on here. So what, all of these articles

and all of these discussions and everything and even like YouTube's talking about it didn't include was that like, so this, Lawson's, right? The reason why people were flocking to this Lawson in particular, and it was such a problem, is because about, I don't know, 50 meters, like, I think, like east of it is literally where all of the buses, the train stations, all of them stop. Yeah. That's where they end. Yeah. So obviously, when they get off a bus ride or a train ride, what are you going to do? You're going to go to the fucking

Combeini. Yeah. And you see Fuji and a Combeini, you're going to take a picture. People, they made it seen like people were like going out of their way to come to this lawson's yeah to take pictures and be a nuisance it's like no you had all of the train stations and all the buses stop here that's why people were taking photos and then why would you think the solution is to then try and cover up with this shit piece of top yeah that cost locals one million yen eight thousand dollars why was that the solution turn it in try and manage it to try and make money from this like give like if a tourist are going to do this, find a way to then monetize this, find a way to kind of regulate it. People are going to take advantage of it, no matter what you're doing. Or it's just like, how do you regulate it? How, like,

you can't, it's, it's, it's a balancing act, right? Because right now there is just like so many tourists in Japan. To the point where it's, it's weird to think that Japan has kind of become, because of the exchange rate, it's kind of become like a cheap holiday now. Comparatively, if you can afford the, if you can afford the ticket, then comparatively to, you, you know, to a lot of European holidays especially. It's just become a cheap holiday destination. And, you know, you get tourists coming in that come in, knowing that it's a cheap holiday destination.

But the service that they get is not cheap at all. Yeah. It's like premium. This is, you know, you normally play a premium for the services you get in Japan. So you just have this situation where because of all of, because of the situation, so many people are flooding in to a problem. where I don't think Japan has ever had this many tourists

flood in a single time before. Oh no. And they're just not prepared for it. They're not prepared to handle this many people. Which is ironic as well because they were certainly prepared for it before the Olympics got canceled. And then they were like, well, that's not never gonna happen again and then it happened.

And then it happened. I think the thing is like the businesses and the government were like, we want tourism. But then obviously like the day-to-day people who are around it are like, well, I don't really, I don't really want that many tourists. Yeah. So there's kind of like a disconnect between businesses

that want to make money and governments want to make money and then the local people who are like, I just kind of want to work, but it's like, it's a lot to deal with. But this one, I don't know, I just felt like, this was the worst solution of all. Oh no, 100%. This was like, yeah.

Because not only did it not work, it made a huge spectacle about it, attracting more tourists. Yep, right? Because now they're coming to see the wall. Yeah, now they're coming to like, go to the place where all this drama's happening. Yeah, exactly.

And time and time again, Japan always choose the option of like destroying or getting rid of the thing as opposed to like maybe taking advantage of it. There was like a, I remember Chris's telling me about there was like a tree somewhere in Hokkaido. There's one tree in the middle of a field that looked amazing to take photos with. And I guess to get to the tree, I think occasionally people were going over like, I think it was like private property. Right. And the solution was, what do you think the solution was for the Japanese? Cut the tree down.

Yeah. Which is like, this is like what a way. If this is the UK, they would have made a fucking line. They would have had a stall there. They would have had a guy, like you pay to take pictures. Like they would have, they would have, they would be opportunistic people who would be willing to take advantage of this.

Do you think Japan, the Japanese culture, won that though? Because it's, it's. Yeah, but if your culture's getting it, regardless, like you, you would have to completely close the borders again. You are going to get this. It's not whether you want it or not. People are gonna show up at a lawson's.

It's a conflict of me. You can either sit here and complain about it, put up expensive walls that don't work, or you can find to find a way to work around it and make it easier to manage these tourists that are inevitably going to come. We can't undo the clock, we can't say like,

we don't want tourists. They're coming. It's a conflict of interest, right? Because in the case with say like, you know, Fujikawa Gutskoy, which is where the Lawson thing is, right? You know, the government, the local government is looking at like the amount of money that's coming into the country through tourism

and is going like, oh, this is great. We're getting a lot of money, like it's helping us to like, you know, grow the town out and, you know, this is income. that we haven't seen ever since before the pandemic. So this is awesome. But then there's a conflict of interest of the people who live there who are like, no, I just want to be fucking peaceful.

I don't really need it. Like, yeah, the extra money is cool, but now I'm tossed up between like, do I struggle to get customers, but also not have to deal with foreigners or deal with foreigners and get the money? Well, I think the problem is we've seen this cycle of like the tourism cycle, so many times before.

And it's like, the real question is, is the money you go into the government? government or is it actually going to the local people and the local businesses? Because there's so many like, there's so many examples like right now where like Hawaii, for example, where, you know, tourism made a big boom to this place, put the prices up and then you're getting

to a point where like even locals can't afford to live there anymore just because everything's become so inflated. They do the, I know some places in Shibu have started doing dual pricing. Yeah, well, so it's, instead of wording it, the foreigners get charged more, it's worded normally that this is the normal price and locals get discounts. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Obviously it's a little unfortunate because sometimes us who live here, who look foreign, it's a little awkward when you're like, no, I'm good, I'll have the local price please. Yeah, like, yeah. It's like, stop clapping. But like in a way, like I kind of,

I kind of understand the pushback because, you know, I've seen it a lot with my own country, with Thailand, you know, like I said, I went to a Thai boxing match and he got to the point where because so many tourists are watching Thai boxing matches, the local people, the Thai population, can't actually go watch a boxing match

of like their own local boxing teams and fighters and shit like that. And you know, in a way, it is sad, it's sad, you know. I mean, it's great for the economy, but not the, for the local economy, arguable for the country economy, you know. Yeah, but I guess like if there's a demand there and people are showing up,

It's kind of like, there's not really much you can do and then figure out how to at least make this manageable for you as the business owner, which means normally just catering to those people that are showing up and wanting to pay more. Exactly. I mean, it's unfortunate, but, you know, just kind of how it works.

Like, I don't, like Japan is trying to push back on this. Or these local people are trying to push back on this. Yeah. And it just gives this weird mixed message of like, you're not welcome, which is fine if they're not. Like, it's like, you don't have to be welcome everywhere. You're not entitled to be. But then it's just, you don't have to be welcome everywhere.

But then it's also like you are then in turn creating more problems for yourself because you are not just being like, how do I deal with this in a way that can just benefit everyone? You know, I don't know. Well, you know, Japan has had the history of being very not welcoming to the outside wall.

Yeah, it has, right? Like, you know, what was their first solution? Cut it all off and then America came a knocking. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, knock, knock, I brought Jesus. Like, I mean, you know, when you look at anything Japanese related online,

especially when you read comments, It's very obvious that like people, people, how many people do not like tourists at all. Oh no, no, no, no. Like, I mean, when you're talking to people on the street, it's very different, but like, netizens are very against the idea. Oh, no, I can very openly say that I think

Japanese people deep down are some of the most xenophobic people like in the world. Well, I mean, it's unfortunate. The fact that you can do a policy of like, hey, look, I'm gonna charge a local this is a foreign of this pricing, and then how is it based off of? Well, there's only one way to-

How you look, baby? Yeah, which is like a, it's such a, like if you try to do this in any Western country, we'd be like, oh my God, could you imagine if they tried to do it in America? Yeah, it'd be, you wouldn't, you wouldn't. It would be a fucking war. You'd be shut down.

Yeah, 100%. You know, but the, I mean, Japan is such a homogenous country where, you know, this is, you can kind of get away with it. And also the Gion one, I think they shut down the district, obviously now and they charge a 10,000 yen fine if you're doing there. And the language on the thing says something along the lines of private property you can't enter. Yeah, yeah.

But originally when they were having the conversation, it was banning only tourists. Yeah. And there's a lot of questions being like, how do you determine who's a tourist? Yeah. Like that's such a very dicey. This is like, you're gonna stop every guy that isn't Japanese looking and then be like,

excuse me, like pay the money. And you're like fuck off, like, Bri Lee. It's like a Zary card. Do you get like a bouncer? Yeah, yeah. It's just, and then is it fair that you stop everyone that doesn't look, you know, like you just like all the Asians,

The Chinese tourists are like, all right. A lot of these are just objectively bad solution. No, it is. Like a problem, like is. But Japan has historically been so good at that of just looking at a problem and going, I have a solution, it is the worst solution ever. And also like other things that I saw

that it just made me think like, what do you do in Japan? Like I saw a guy that a father and a son got arrested for making Carmen Rider masks and selling them. Oh yeah. Yeah, I had to see this. 10 years and, 10, say like, can you get you this? I did see that. The sentence was ridiculous.

Because it was against copyright. Because they broke the copyright. Oh. They didn't get, they didn't get, you know, fucking written approval or something. I come back. They were being charged with an outrageous, what I thought. Yeah, click on it or something. 65 year old twins.

65 year old twins. They're being, scroll down. So, scorn 10 million yen. Younger brother selling them for about Juman or each, for about five years and earned about 10 million yen. I can't remember what they were gonna charge them. They were gonna charge them with,

I think, I can't remember what I saw. It sounded ridiculous. But either way it's ridiculous. You arresting a guy from running an Etsy store. Yeah, obviously you have the right to stop them from selling that, but I just don't think you should be arrested. No.

Obviously, we don't know the full story. They could have been menaces for years. They could have been breaching copyright for menaces. They could have literally been doing this. They could have been doing this. It would be devious. Obviously, if you breach copyright, right? I think that there needs to be consequences if you're, you know, because that's how it works. That's how it works. We need to

rules. Yeah, for sure. But there needs to be like, you know, there used to be a limit about what you can do. Yeah. The dude was selling masks with his brother. This was not like a global operation. You know what I mean? Like, like, we're smuggling masks out of the country. It's like, why? It's like a drug bust. Like Japan will take the low-hanging fruit and we'll like throw the SWAT team, they'll throw the crazy police at it. And they'll make a big spectacle over arresting a guy who was making fucking common ride of masks. Yeah, well yeah, because the Japanese

police are probably thinking like, oh, finally something to do. Serious stuff that like, they actually could like start addressing, they're like, I'm gonna go arrest another guy who sells Nintendo Switch games and treat codes on them. Like, oh my God. Like, for fuck's sake. It's ridiculous, man. It's just so, sometimes it's so depressing

watching like, I don't know, just seeing the choices that the local governments are police makes. We're like, this is just so dumb. I mean, I knew it was going down the shitter, especially like at the beginning of the pandemic when the government was like, all right, we need to help all of the, you know, the Inaca towns out because no one's traveling there anymore.

So what's our solution? We could like maybe give them a grant or something. No. Oh, I know. We'll do this thing called the go-to campaign where we give every, where we basically pay for everybody's like, you know, vacations. Yeah.

And so they can support the government, support the local governments. And then someone was like, yeah, but wouldn't that like spread COVID more? They're like, yeah, don't worry about that. There's a lot of, you know, and obviously when they, a lot of short-sided policies,

like obviously when they had the whole message about please drink more, because kids aren't drinking. Because 20 year old people, kids, sorry, kids aren't drinking as much. Yeah. They were like, we need people to drink more. It's like, yeah.

What, no, we don't. No, we don't. No, we don't. This is a great thing. Don't make people drink more? What the fuck are you talking about? It's all short-sighted man. They never think long-term about anything

and it's actually terrifying. Yeah, it's just, I don't know. It's just a shame because you're, you know, it's just still like, why? Why do we, why is the solution to people taking pictures to put up a tarp that is clearly not going to do anything? Also, what's stopping people? No, it's got holes in it already.

Yeah, people just poking holes and then sticking the lens to it. Obviously, there's, the only way they could fix it if they built like a concrete wall around this loss and had like a military, Perry-esque checkpoint. And don't give Japan ideas, I couldn't say that. Also, there's literally nothing stopping people

from just walking around the top and just taking it from the other side. It was the biggest fucking waste of money ever. But I don't know, it's just like, why specifically that point? I just told you earlier. Because it was right next to the bus station. Yeah, and also because it's the perfect vantage point

of Mount Fuji sitting directly on top of the loss and so Japanese people are like, oh, Kauai. It's literally just because it was right to where everyone got off the bus and train, went to the Lawson's to get their snacks, get waters, and then they would see the view. Yeah, I mean, what I meant to say was like, I mean, Mount Fuji ain't exactly small.

No, no, it's not like you can only take pictures of Mount Fuji on like one angle, you know. Yeah, I guess, I guess. And that's why I was asking why? It's like, why don't we just walk down the road, it's like, no, it needs to be here! Most people aren't like going out of the way to get pictures, right?

So I think it was literally the, it was the closest shot that, looked kind of like, oh wow, Japan. That would just happen to be there, right? And again, like, I just wish that they thought of a better solution. Why not have like, I know they already had like, I think they already had a guy there

who was like shuffling people away and whatnot, which is probably realistically the only thing they could do. Yeah. I don't think you have to fucking hire a guy just to like people manage in a law sense. Yeah, I mean it's dumb, you know, it's dumb. I'm sure the, I don't know, like,

If it was that bad for the Lawson's, they would be interested as well in hiring some staff to... Yeah, I mean, the only thing you can do is hope that the money that all these tourists are coming into the local area is actually getting back to the local people. You know, that's...

Yeah. That is the only hope you can get. Because if it's not, then you have a bunch of people who live there who are just getting annoyed by tourists every day and they don't see any difference in their business. And they have an addition of an ugly wall. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

that they probably had to pay for with their taxpaying money. So it's like, cool. $8,000 for that wall. Everyone wins. $8,000 for the cheapest wall I've seen in my life. I think my wall in Twitchcom was more useful than that. Yeah, that's what they should do. They should have a white wall that people can draw on.

Yeah, they should just distract them. We should just make a photo point and like herd the people there. Yeah. Like I feel like you just make a little square area and heard people there. Yeah, and it's like 100 yen. Or maybe not that, but like,

Or if they wanna do it, right, like they could easily be like, oh, you wanna get the perfect angle, you know, 50 M to like come into here and take it with like, no, bro, bro, how are you gonna enforce that? Get the picture police on it. Get the picture police. Yeah, get the picture police.

Hey, get put that phone away. Hey, hey, hey, that's 100 yen per picture actually. I thought there was just so many better ways than building a shit wall. Yeah, no, 100%. We're gonna build a wall. It's gonna be the best wall. And the tourists are gonna pay.

I got away, let's just get rid of Mount Fuji. That's what they would do. That's the Japan's like, the like, Japan is like hoping it erupts. Japan is like, please. It's taking too long to erupt right now. This is embarrassing. The tourists are ruining Fuji.

We've decided to ship Fuji off to Okinawa. We decided to cut it out like a luny-tune-th ass sword. We just got a bunch of dynamite together and we'll just make the explosion ourselves. It's just like, yeah, it's just, I just go, the solutions they come up with for just over tourism, it's just so, oh, God. It's so brain dead.

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