Trash Taste Podcast - We Can't Stand Zoomers | Trash Taste #233

Episode Date: December 6, 2024

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Hey, what's up guys? Welcome back to another episode of the Trash Taste Podcast. I'm Joey and I'm with the boys, Connor and Garn, as per usual. Connor's dripped out today. Oh, well, what's up? What's up?

What's up? I'm the one wearing the trash t-shirt for a hundred and Conner's dripped out. I know, I'm trying to, I'm trying to like just, I, in my head, I'm like, if I dress nicer, will I, like, will I be, like, more active in my day? Will I be more prepared? So I'm just trying to dress nice for like a week.

What do you mean by more active? Because like, when I used to like, live in London, I used to only wear like sweatpants, and t-shirts. Yeah. And I was like, man, I should start wearing jeans at home, like a psychopath to see if like I- Why is that psychopath?

Why is that a lot of people- No, that's pretty psychopathal. It's not psych-a- I don't even wear jeans outside. So I-I- Yeah, well, you, Joey, I hate Joe. I'm with you, gone. I am a gene at home and joyer. Thank you, thank you. You know, you know, I was, uh,

had a dydist and Emily come, come over to my house and it was like a weekend. Yeah. And we were just planning to have like a movie night. And I opened the door and they were like, Why are you in jeans? I was like, what the fuck do you wait? Wait, question, question.

Do you wear jeans on a flight? Huh? Yeah. Yeah. That's wild. Why? That's crazy. Okay, here's the thing, here's the thing. Comfort in this illusion, it's an illusion.

No, I'm on a, if I'm on a flight to say like Japan to like LA, I'm wearing the baggiest, most comfortable. I'd wear a suit. Nah, no. I would, I would wear anything on that. No, that's wild. What's not comfortable about jeans? They're just like heavy and restrictive. I hate them.

I dead ass. Yeah, no, no. The thing is I have a couple of pairs of jeans and I used to wear a lot of jeans and then I discovered, oh wait, because in my head, right, before I got more into the whole fashion thing, I was like, oh, the fanciest pants that you could possibly wear are jeans, like in any occasion, right? Like everyone looks good in jeans, right? Wait, the fanciest?

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like in terms of just like a suit pants to the fanciest, right? Yeah, but who's wearing suit pants in their day to day? I mean, I kind of technically am. These are technically suit pants. They're just baggy. I mean, yeah, but look, you know what I mean though, right? Yeah, yeah.

I'm talking like, you know, straight out of a two piece, like kind of suit pants. Like no one's wearing that, right? So like, yeah, some people do. Yeah, you know, some people do it and that's fine, but like I don't, I didn't have soup pants. So I'm like, okay, well, if I'm going to say, like, a nice restaurant or something, then, you know,

obviously it's like, you know, colored shirt with a nice pair of jeans or something, right? But then I discovered, oh wait, there are more fancy pants out there than just jeans. and that are way less restrictive and way less heavier. And way more comfortable. He's discovered the forbidden knowledge.

I've discovered the forbidden knowledge of like, I don't have to wear jeans to be, to look good. But I also, you shouldn't, no, let's not do that. Because as men, we've struck gold. Yeah, what do mean? You don't have to wear anything other than jeans. Yeah, that's what, why would you... Why would you want to, as...

We've got it down. As a man, Joey, as a man, as a man, like you know, as a man, As a man, Joey. You want to elevate yourself, but you need to be on our level. That's great. That's great. Just stay down here with us.

I want to make sure there is the least choice as possible when it comes to my clothing while still looking reasonably all right. I mean, that's fine. That's the life you can leave. I don't want to live that life. It's like when you see like the, you know, the Oscars or some kind of show and you see one guy has gone for some kind of crazy outfit.

You're like, stop that. Stop that. We're so fortunate that we can all agree to wear the exact same. same suit and we're like, damn, you look good. Yeah. No, but that's at an awards show. Like anything, we can just wear a suit. This is beautiful. This is why I love being a guy.

What are the many reasons? Okay, okay. Be being in a relationship. Only reason. Come on, there's many reasons. Being in a relationship, right? And, um, okay. Every time we have a night out, right?

Sydney goes, Sydney has to go through this like, fucking three hour decision tree about like, what am I going to wear? for this one event. And she starts thinking about it, like maybe the day before. And if she can't find an outfit that she feels comfortable,

because there's so many things you have to take. How often have I worn this outfit? How, like, how recent is it? Is it new? Do I feel good? Does it suit the event? And for me, I'm like, I just need to put it on a suit. If it's a super fancy event,

if it's a casual event, just put it on my shirt. Just a shirt. Just a shirt. Just the shirt. Just add the layers or remove the layers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're very fortunate.

Okay, but like, again, I'm not talking about, like, fancy events. I'm just talking day to day. Okay, okay, right? Especially if you're in, like, on a flight for 10 hours, right? I wanna be as comfy as possible because I'm- comfy as fuck, boy. I'm comfy as fuck. Ah, you've been gene-pilled, bro.

You've been jean-pilled. I just, I hate wearing pajamas in public or anything like that. No, I'm not wearing pajamas in public. But like, when I get on flights, I know you're allowed to wear, like, it's like, I completely understand that people want to wear pajamas on the flight. because you absolutely should. Yeah. But me, the moment I get off that plane,

I want to be in jeans. I just don't wanna walk around in like pajamas or sweaters. Well then why don't you just pack a pair of jeans in your bag and then just change when you get off? Yeah, sometimes I do that. Yeah, I do that sometimes. But like one time I forgot to change. And then I was like, shit, what do I do?

Like, what do I? I'm like literally in like, clearly, not even like sweatpants, like just clearly pajama. And I, you know, because I, you kind of want to leave it until the last possible second to change back into your. Yes. Yeah. And I left it too long. And then it was the thing it came on,

they said like no more, you can't walk around. I'm like, shit, fuck what do I do? And I'm just kind of like, I don't know what to do. And then my, for some reason, I was able to just, I had like the blanket and I was like, I'm gonna do that thing right, fucking get the pants. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Getting changed to the beach. Yeah, yeah. Taking off my pants. It's always the most awkward part of taking off your pants, even with the blanket is when you have to bring your ass up. And it's very obvious to everybody what you're doing.

It's the most non-configurous move and we just like- And then you have to do it quick enough to get the pants back on so no one thinks you're trying to pull something weird. Yeah. It's like, no, no, I'm putting them on. I'm not just getting my dick out. I'm not touching my we know, trust me.

I was like, I do not want to fucking walk around his fat pants. I don't know, but because the, circling back to the initial point, when I first started, I really wanted to start wearing like jeans at home because I thought maybe I'll be more productive. or I'll think about myself as being like,

the morning is over, it's now the day. Yeah, okay. And that helped a lot. And so now I'm trying to, next level, where I'm like, what if I like, like, just dress nice? And then maybe I'll feel like I have to be even more productive. What if I just dress nice?

Man discovers clothes. Well, I'm like, you know, I'm kind of like NPC where I just put the same t-shirt on and I was like, well, what if I try, like, wearing like a button up and will I feel- I mean, dog, I tried to teach you this for years and you were just, like, nah, nah, I'm gonna be like the main character

in B movie and just have the same 50 shirts. I mean, I like those though, I like those. I mean, it's trying to find, for me, it's trying to find a balance of not exactly having the same shirt every day, but just having like a core, like maybe 10 shirts that I pick from at a time because sometimes you wake up and I'm like, I just don't wanna make a decision.

Jeans, okay, I'm gonna go jeans. Adding different trousers adds too much complexity for me. I don't, God, you're making it sound like you're doing like long division. It's really not that hard. It is, it is. I think it is hard. Why? What's so hard about just being like, I have a pair of jeans and I have maybe like, let's say, two sweatpants.

I'm not gonna stand there having a mental break, I'm being like, fuck, which one do I pick? Because jeans go with everything. Yeah, but what I don't understand, right, I agree, jeans do go with everything. But if you're not planning to go out of the house, why would you wear the most uncomfortable pair of pants out of the line? They're not uncomfortable. Well, number one, number one, they're not uncomfortable.

Number two, if, if, if, if, like, I, sometimes I wear like sweatpants when I'm inside, and that's on like the super lazy days. I don't know, when I put on sweatpants, I'm like, I'm not, I'm not getting myself. Yeah, yeah, I'm like, I'm not getting anything done today, man. Fuck.

I'm, I'm sitting down on the couch, and I'm just being a couch potato today. Okay. You know, jean. Jeans get me in that like mental state of just like, okay, this is a get shit done day. I could be going out, could be staying in, it doesn't matter. Who knows?

Be on my toes, who knows? So, okay, question, because I hear this all the time on the internet and I've never been able to relate to it and I always thought I was the weird one. Yeah. Do you enjoy not wearing pants in the house? What do you mean? Like there are so many people where it's like,

I don't know if, like, I don't know who invented this, but like, there's this like common, of like people who were just like inside all the time to be like, oh, I'm not gonna go out today. Today's a no pants kind of day. And they just don't wear pants around the house. No, I thought I was the weird one. Cause I'm like, no, I'm wearing pants.

Like I'm not an animal. I'm gonna wear pants no matter what. Yeah. I just don't feel comfortable if I'm not wearing anything. I get out of bed. It's either like a shower or put on pants immediately. Yeah, 100% I'm the same. Yeah, wearing no pants to bed.

Totally understand. Yeah. that as well. But the moment I'm out of the bed, I'm wearing pants. Okay. I think that Japan's changed me in some aspects of this as well. Like I also just not, I don't really like wearing shorts anymore. I've never liked wearing shorts. No, no. I don't, I, I used to love wearing shorts. Now I, I can't stand the thought of it. Why? I don't know. I feel like in Japan, I just never saw anyone else do it. Did Japan gaslight you into not wearing shorts? I didn't get to not wearing shorts. Because now I, now I just, I, yeah, I can't wear shorts. I, I can never wear shorts. I don't know. I just

never felt comfortable in shorts. Shorts was always, I don't know. It can be fashionable, it can look good. I just don't think I can make it look good. Right, yeah, I was about to say, because I think like the common understanding, because like I've seen this so many time, every time like I see one of those like,

10 things you definitely should avoid doing in Japan that they don't teach you about. And one of them was always like, in the summer, you should never wear shorts in Japan. And I'm like, no, you should. It's fucking hot. Wear shorts. Don't get like, the thing is that like,

I think the reason why you don't see a lot of Japanese people wearing shorts is the same reason why Garn doesn't wear shorts is because most of them don't think they look good in shorts. Yeah. But if you want to wear shorts and you're comfortable wearing shorts, especially in the summer in Japan, please wear shorts. Yeah, it's way too hot otherwise. In my brain, I think I associate shorts now with like sports.

Like if I'm doing it like- Like gym or something. If I'm doing a workout and I'll wear shorts. And I think I'm like, in my head, I'm like, in my head, I was fine. But the moment I'm like not working out or doing anything active, I'm like, Oh, pants. What about like three quarter pants? Just decide, pick a side, you know what I mean?

Just fucking pick a side. Three quarter pants are the fence, yeah, they are. To me, because the only time I really wear shorts is when I'm in Thailand. Yeah, because it's too hot. Yeah, yeah. And it's just like, I, that's why I prefer, like,

you know, autumn fashion and winter fashion and spring fashion, because you can just have so much more variation. But with summer fashion, especially in like climate like that, even though I do like hot weather, the one thing I don't like is that the amount of variation you get with fashion is just like not there. You're just shorts and t-shirt.

I'm like, you can't do anything with that. Yeah, no, I agree. I agree. And it doesn't matter how fashionable you look, you're not gonna look cool when you're just like, perspiring from every party of your audience. It's crazy in Trenton. You'll see like a dude in like three layers in the summer. Oh yeah.

And you're like, what the fuck? I'm telling you, man, Japanese people are reptiles. They just don't feel the heat. Okay, here's the real question now. How many pairs of shoes do you have? Are we including thongs? Sorry, flip flops for the Americans. Three or four?

Yes. Yeah, if we're including thongs, three. Okay, so how many of them are in rotation in terms of you have to pick or which one you wear when you go out? So for me, I have my pair of vetsies. Yeah? I have a pair of hawkers and I have a pair of thongs.

Yeah. The vesees I wear for like- All of those sounded made out. Except for the messies. What do you mean? Hockers. You're hock-toeing? No, no.

H-O-K-A, hawker shoes. They're really nice. This is like, I have a pair of- I just nodded along. I don't know where those shoes are. Okay. They're nice. So my hocker shoes are for when, like,

I want to dress up a little bit. Okay. You know, they're more for like, you know, just like, going around town, like, if I'm, like, on a date with Arkie or if I'm, like, going to a nice dinner or something. The vesees are for like everyday use. Yeah.

The thongs are for when I can't be fucked to put socks on. Right. That's my full rotation. See, that's even more than me. I've realized through my entire life, I have like one pair of shoes that I wear every day, unless it's like fancy occasions. Yeah.

Until it breaks. And then I get another pair of shoes. Yeah, I'm the same. And sometimes I'd get like, for Christmas, I get like gifted different pairs of shoes. And I realized that I would only subconsciously pick one and then never wear anything else. And I was like, is this a me thing

or is every guy like that? Wait, hold on. What's your definition of like, I can't wear these shoes anymore? Because I've noticed it's different for different guys. Okay. Mine literally have like charred burn marks on them. I still wear them.

Would you still wear a pair of shoes if it has like a hole at the bottom? That's probably the limit. For me, for me the limit. Like as in like hole, as in like through the entire shoe. Like like through the soul. Yeah.

For me, my line, and this was a very specific line living in England, it was, you know, sometimes when you go out and it's not exactly pouring rain, but, you know, it's a bit damp. It's like puddles there. And sometimes you just have a pair of shoes where you walk in the dampness and the water would slowly seep into your toe.

That was always the line for me. That's always a line. There's not exactly a hole there, but it's not watertight anymore. Yeah, that's true. I think I also wore my last pair of vesees to death to the point where like one day when it was like raining quite bad in Tokyo, I was like, I have no grip on my shoes.

And I looked at the, I like flipped them over. It was smooth. It was smooth. It used to be two different colors as well. Yeah, just white smooth. Yeah. And I was like, oh, because I realized like no matter what occasion, I was literally, it sounds like an ad.

I was wearing it on every case, I was literally like doing any kind of fucking activity wearing these goddamn. Navi, do we have a vestiata? Vesia this episode? Do we, I hope so? Do we have a first? You know, I've read them a lot.

Yeah. We don't. Are they just getting a free one today? Yeah, we've given them an awful one. I mean, don't know, like, how long is a normal pair of shoes supposed to last as well? That's another thing, because I don't have a good gauge for that. I don't either.

Because I feel like you buy shoes, and they always last long enough for you to forget, like, when you bought them, and if it's a long time, Like if, yeah, because like, you know, some shoes last like five years, some last two. But I pretty would remember it. Well, I think it depends on how often you wear them, right? Like in the case with Gant, like who wears one pair of shoes

365 days of year, then I'm sure the time limit on how much time you can, you have to wear the shoes probably like a year, yeah. But if you're in rotation, you can work out. I feel like when I was a teenager, those things are like indestructible, like shoes just wouldn't break. No, no. I, I have, I have, I have a little, you're in rotation, you can work out. I had my gauge when I was a kid, because I also only had one pair of shoes,

my gauge was when like the end of the, like the tip of the sole and the toes would just be like that. Oh my God, okay. When your shoes start to talk, that's when, that's when it's like, all right, we're done. Six to 12 months. Yeah, that's crazy. Dude, my vices have definitely lost the long.

That's not. That can't be right. That doesn't sound right. Six to 12 months is insane. What are you doing in those? Like that's like if you're like, you walk on sandpaper exclusively. No, I would say six to 12 months.

No. To me, with the waterlog test, to me, it's about six to 12 months was about how long she would stay waterproof in terms of like. Shoes can last 20 years. The key is taking care of them and never wearing them two days in the road. Ain't nobody on time for that.

I'm sorry. We're not doing that. Just buy a new pair. Do you know I never understood? Have you ever bought one of those fancy dress shoes that just have no grip on them. Why did those exist? Because they just look good with a suit.

But like, but like some of them have grip and some of them are just like completely smooth. Yeah, you, like some dress shoes I've worn, I'm like, oh, I'm skiing today. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I'm just fucking just gliding through the holes. I'm like, what is the history of this?

Why are there just some dress shoes that I just constantly slip in? I think it's because with dress shoes like that, it's, they're not so much intended to like walk in, but rather to just like stand around in. You know what I mean? They are so much. Yeah, they do. I hate the ones where it's like the toes are just like,

oh, tipped like that. I got a pair like that right now, and it feels like I'm being like... The Chinese footboying. Yeah, I feel like, I get out and I'm like, oh, that's fine, I try like take it off. Your toes are like this by the end. Yeah, it's horrible, dude.

I'm like, who wears these? But I recognize that I probably just don't have good suit shoes or fitted, but I went to some like store in Japan where it was like a, well, I thought it was like a fancy store, because I was like, can I just get, I just wanted to get a pair that would last me, like, forever. because I only wear them like twice, three times a year, right? So I was like, I was great a good pair.

But I think it was one of those like pseudo fancy Japan business stores where they have these things that like look premium and they'll have everything that looks premium. But then it's so perfect suit factory. It was kind of like that. It was kind of like that. I thought it was like a real fancy store. And then I saw the price, I was like,

that seems really affordable, which is good. But I was like, I was expecting to get scammed a little bit. Yeah, right. And then I wore them and it was fine. And then I wore them for like four hours and I was like, oh boy, I kinda wish I got a different pair. Yeah. And I was too late to return them.

So yeah, but I've committed to them. I've committed to them. I've committed. Committed. How long is it take you to decide what to wear? Uh, two minutes. Yeah, not even like two minutes. Seconds, literally, I'll-

Do you have your like decision tree about like what pants goes with like what t-shirts? Uh, yeah. So like for today for instance, right? Like I'm wearing black pants. Yeah. And, you know, so I thought like, oh, I could go the full black or I could mix and match it and wear something light.

And I saw this in the closet and I was like, oh, I haven't won this one in a while, so I'll wear that. There you go, literally 30 seconds. Down. It's not that hard. If anything for me, I first figure out, okay, if I'm going out today, what's the temperature outside?

Yeah. And then from there I start the skill, I start the skill tree. The skill tree opens up. The decision tree opens up from there. I remember the one time. I didn't wear just like dark jeans and I added like light jeans to my like wardrobe.

Yeah. And I'm like shit. Just by wearing light jeans, this changes everything I wear on top. I'm like, down, this is like too much, this is like too much choice work. Well that's why most pants are dark because the hardest thing to pair is bright pants. I know. Any bright pants is just like, what do I wear with this?

It's like nothing works. White is too bright and black is just like, okay, it's a bit weird. Yeah. But the moral of the story is we're fucking lazy. Yeah. We're just lazy, all right. But not lazy enough to not wear jeans. Just, we're just lazy.

Yeah, I don't know, dog. It's a bit weird. You also had surgery. How'd, uh... Yeah, I had surgery in Japan. That was fun. That was fine. Okay, you just said it so casually, but like, are you okay? Yeah, no, I'm fine.

I just feel like, I can't like sit, like, as I used to sit like lazily. I think if I'd sit like that now, if I sit like that. What's, what's a way? What surgery did you get? It was to remove a cyst. Dummy thick.

Yeah, I had a butt reduction technically. I guess it was sort of, you had a butt reduction. I guess it was like 1% removed. No more BB El Connor? No. No. I think I-

Dummy thick and he needed some reduction. Damn. You can get this thing from basically sitting too much, like a cyst. You got butt cancer? Yeah, yeah, basically. Basically, I got butt cancer. You got the gamer butts?

I got game of butt. You got a butt. It happened the first time, actually in the episode. I'm laughing about this, but there's no laughing that. Oh no, it's fine. Yeah. When we, I remember I talked about dress tastes where I, I can't remember which episode it was. I talked about going to the doctor for like a butt pimple.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. At the time I thought it was just a pimple and this guy gave me meds and it went away for like a week. And then after that I was like, huh, it keeps going and coming back in the exact same spot. Like this like a pimple. Right. And then I was like, I'll go check it out. And then they were like, yeah, just take some drugs.

So I took the drugs. The antibiotics. And then it was like, yeah, it was like, you just take some drugs. We just didn't. The answer to Andy in life, just take drugs. And nothing happened. And I was like, hey doc, can you help me out? And this is like, even now, this is like four times

going to the fucking dermatology. Yeah. It was so long, dude. And then you have to, you get like a referral letter. And then they're like, yeah, okay, we think it might be something more serious. And I was like, oh shit, okay, damn. That's crazy. Oh, for real? So what?

You just got it from sitting too much? Like, what did you get it? Apparently it's a thing that you can get in a lot of sedentary jobs. I don't know exactly, I don't know how to pronounce it, Pinodial or something, cyst or something, I don't know how to- Right. So I first noticed it after I did my cycling.

That's when I first noticed it. Oh, so I think it was a combination of like sitting all the time and then doing, sitting on a very uncomfortable chair for the first time. That's why your ass didn't hurt like hell when you were cycling all- Well, no, so. Pilo, pido, pido, fuck, I can't pronounce that.

Pillar, Pillar Nidal? Pylen-Lidlidle. I completely pronounced it wrong. I don't know how to pronounce it. I don't know. Yeah, so apparently it's something to do with, like your hairs when they like, they can like puncture the skin.

Oh, so it's like an ingrown hair almost. I think so. I honestly, I didn't fully understand it. Yeah. Because I was just getting shuffled around. Right, right. And then also obviously I, my Japanese is okay, but not good enough

to know medical terminology in Japanese. Yeah, it's yeah. And even in English, I don't, like, they're talking about this first. Pilele of Idol. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, it's like, I had, I spoke out this on live here and I got a comment,

there's like, how do you not know the shit in Japanese? Like, bro, I don't know the shit in English. Like what are you doing? This is my first time hearing about this. This is like hearing like law terminology in English. Yeah, yeah. This is so like.

Like the fuck's a plaintiff. Yeah. I'm being sued. What is that? So yeah, they were like, oh yeah, we think you might got something. And I was like, oh, okay. So then just had to do a bunch of tests, endless referrals. Yeah.

Dude, oh my God, I remember being like this in the UK, but in Japan it's like, it was like a JRP fetch quest. Every time they thought I had something, they were like, I gotta go talk to this person. Yeah, yeah. I was like, oh, okay, and then like, take this letter. But then I would have to come back to the hospital to get the letter to take to the other hospital.

Yeah. So it's like, I would go for a visit and they're like, oh, we'll tell you to go to here. Just come back another day for the letter. It's like, what? Yeah. You gotta make me come all the way back here again. Yeah.

So it was just a really long process, but eventually they were like, yeah, we'll cut it out. And I was like, oh, okay, shit. And I was like, oh, fuck, I've never had surgery before. That's kind of scary. Right. So I had to go and do that.

And that was interesting. Yeah, because there's a lot of stuff leading up to it because obviously my blood condition as well. Yeah, yeah. And so I had to find a hospital that could accommodate my inbreeding disease of hemophilia. Kizirubi-il, which, fun fact, extremely rare in Japan. It's very rare in Europe compared to other diseases,

but like even more so in Japan. Right. It's more of like a European disease. Yeah. So they also, that was also strange because like no one, there were a lot of blood clinics who didn't have like experience with it. So I had to go to a specific one.

And the first time I went to a doctor and I was like, hey, would love to kind of get all my information updated in Japanese. We do the test, just make sure everything's the same. The doctor in the UK told me to take this drug. Can you make sure it's the same? And then they were like, the first guy I went to, he was like, no, you're wasting my time.

leave. I was like, what? Damn. Yeah, he was like leave. He was a total dick. Like so rude. Like immediately when I was explaining like what I was coming for. Yeah. I could see his face go from like, like listening to like visibly annoyed. And I was like, oh, okay. And he was like, he was like, so you have, you have himophilia, right? I was like, yeah. And he's like, so you know you have it. He's like, I was like, yeah. He's like, what do you want me to do? I was like, well, there's no fucking cure for it. Why do you think I'm here? What do you think I'm here for? Like I wanna get all this shit in Japanese.

So I can get it all like, you know, if I have an action in Japan, like I can get it all done. And I'm hopefully having surgery. And so, and I was like, what a dick, dude. And so then I rebooked it, the same hospital, just with a different doctor. Yeah. They were great.

They were like, oh yeah, yeah, totally fine. Yeah, let's, then they went through it all, did some tests and then they were like, oh, yeah, we can't do that at this hospital. We don't have like the facilities for it. I was like, what? You don't have a translator? No, no, for like, I guess like the medicine or stuff.

Oh, I see, I see. So they were like, if you wanna do surgery, you'd have to go to this other hospital. And I was like, oh my God. This is like, this, this is literally taking like six months of like bouncing around referrals, like crazy amounts of just endless like JRP fetch quests. Yeah. And so finally, the got to the last hospital

they were like, yeah, we can do everything. So basically had to do all that just to get this one drug before the surgery. Right. inject me with something where my blood will basically just clot. And so then I can go in the surgery, which is like the most easy surgery of all time. All they do is cut your butt open.

Yeah, fucking. Yeah, it's super quick. Like it's a very easy surgery. Yeah. At least on the scale where I was doing it, they did tell me they were like, yeah, you could do like a giga surgery where we like remove everything just to be safe, or we can just remove your whole ass.

Well, they were like, they'd have to get like a skin graft. Oh, my God. And I was like, not really fond of that, And then they were like, you have to stand hospital for a couple of days. And I was like, I don't want to do that. Yeah. They were like, oh, we can just remove like the area that it's affected.

Yeah. And see how it would heal? It might come back. It might not. So how much do they take out? Not much, like a, like a big tooth worth looking, like they showed me afterwards. Oh, yeah? Because I asked, I was like, can I see it? You take a picture? I did not take a picture. I didn't want it to see it. I want to see what the buck can't. It's kind of weird because it's like a little white ball, the side of of like an adult tooth.

And it was just covered in like blood strands. Yeah, so, but I was, I'm like a fucking pussy with this shit. I don't know if you guys, how are you guys with this stuff? I'm all right, I guess. Yeah. So, so I'm in this hospital, right, waiting and they're telling me I need surgery.

And you know, obviously I'm like, oh fuck, I've never had surgery before. That's kind of, have you guys had surgery before by the way? No. Okay, so I was like, I was kind of terrified by the idea, but I was like, I think I can do it, because I know they'll numb the area. I won't be put to sleep.

That's not like a thing. I think they're very like, I think normally, they're very weird with anesthesia. Yeah, I think the impression I got from Japan, I don't know about the rest of the world because I've only, again,

I've only experienced in Japan. I got the impression that they would only do that in like a very extreme case. Yeah. Is the vibe I was getting. If you're just removing a cyst, I wouldn't think you need to be put under for that. But I feel like from my experience

and hearing Pete's experience and a couple of other people's experiences of surgery, it's like they very much try to limit, like pain, reduction and like to what is absolutely necessary. But other than that, it's like, we're doing it the natural way, baby. Gammonstein a lot of the Gemman.

So, you know, they're telling me about it. And I was like, oh, okay, it's interesting. And I was like, okay, I'm a little nervous, but I'll be all right. And then before I left the hospital, they were like, they were like, you have to watch this video. I was like, oh, okay, so they sent me there in this room.

Check out this cat. This fucking meme is fired. You see Mudang? This is a fucking hippo in Thailand. There's got nothing to do with this. They just wanted to share the memes. It's like, yo, check this out. What do you think?

What do you think of my real? Is I like, should I upload this? What do you think this is fire? Who are you, YouTube? And they give me this tablet, and they give me these like fucking giant, like ancient headphones. Yeah, yeah.

I'm like, ah, you gotta watch this, just, it's like a disclaimer. I was like, oh shit, okay, so I press play. And, you know, it's Japanese, so there's a bunch of like fun little cartoon anime graphics to go along with like, fucking death. Yeah.

You could die and there's like a little character going, and you're like, what the fuck? And then, you know, I have to pause it because it's like literally a wall of text and so I have to pause every slide and like, get a translate thing out because I'm like, I can't read this shit. Yeah, yeah.

And so I'm reading it. And then there's one thing where they're like, they're talking about, because apparently, and this is, I think, the most common thing that can go wrong with surgeries is the anesthesia. That's like, because people can have allergic reactions to it and stuff. And in this thing, it kind of like, I don't know why.

It explained it in a way that sounded really horrific, where it was like, you may have adverse side effects when injected with anesthesia. You could go into like shock and die. And I was like, oh, love that for me. And I was, that sort of like made me freak the fuck out. Yeah. I was like, you can inject me with shit

and then that shit could kill me? What the fuck? Yeah. And so I went to the doctor. I was like, hey, uh, I'm- you know what? I'll keep the butt cancel. They told me they were like,

yeah, you could just live with it if you wanted to. I was like, I probably just remove it. Yeah. But I was like this close being like, you know what, fuck it, no, I'm good. Because she was terrifying. Yeah, yeah. I was like, hey, I think I'm gonna freak out.

Could you give me some like drugs or some shit to like stop me from freaking out during the surgery? And they were like-wrips a bong out. Yeah. Take hit of this baby, you'll be right. I was like, give me something to calm me down. And then they were like,

best we can do is give you some like drowsy meds. I was like, fuck it, I'll take it. Cause I just wanted the placebo. Yeah, right. Something to be like, something to calm me down. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they were like, they were like, okay. And they were like, yeah, if you wanna watch

like YouTube videos or some shit, like you bring your headphones in. I was like, okay, yeah, actually, that'd be, actually, that'd be great. So when I went, it was like, just so much waiting around, they, I had to get like a bunch of IVs and stuff, and that was horrible.

They kept missing my vein. And then I could feel them wiggling it around, looking for a vein, and that was horrible. Yeah. But the old woman who was doing it was so upbeat, so I was like, I can't freak out. Yeah, I was freaking out internally. I was like, find a vein, get the vein already!

Why do I feel this fucking pain? And so yeah, then it went to the surgery, and then they hook you up with all this shit, then you can hear your heart rate beeping. Yeah, yeah. That sound is always like nerve-wracking, isn't it? That made me more nervous that I could hear my heart rate.

Yeah. Because then I could hear myself freaking out when they would tell me like, all right, we're gonna, we're gonna give you the anesthesia now and then I could hear the thing go from, beep-d-p-p-d-p-p-p-p-d- And I was like, yo, I'm not that nervous. That's unfair, that's like reporting me.

What the heck, man. The heart rate monitor is like, call it out, you're like, oh, you're a pussy now? Oh, I'm not that nervous. I'm not that nervous. And I thought, you know, I was like, all right, okay, this needle,

it'll feel like any other needle when they inject it. Yeah. So they put like the numbing stuff in your, like where they're operating. Yeah. And I thought like, I just feel like a normal needle. Bro, that shit was like putting like a fire sword in my ass.

Damn. It was horrible. Yeah. It was like, it was like the such intense pain. Yeah. And then they were like, all right, we're gonna do the next, the next dose. I was like, oh shit, okay.

I was like, well, at least, you know, you just injected me so it'll feel better. Nope. It's hurt just as much. Yeah. Doesn't kick in immediately. No, and I was like, fuck. So that was fun.

Were you watching YouTube viewers during that time? I was watching the penguin. Oh, the Vanguer series. I thought you'd be watching something calming, yeah. Just this mental image I have of you, like just kind of lying down at the doctor's table, just watching the penguin just getting ass blasted by needles.

Yeah, basically, that's basically how I went. That's so funny. Oh my God. I had to rewatch the part of that episode though, because it was getting distracted, obviously. I was locked in, I was trying to like, I was like, trying to focus. But it was a helpful distraction,

because they were telling me everything they were doing, were doing and I was like, oh my God, stop telling me what you're doing. Just fucking good. So how long did the surgery go for? I was like an hour. It was like super short. Oh, not bad. It was super short.

I think it's like stitching to the longest. But that was funny because you'd feel them, I could feel them doing everything. Right, right, right. So it was numb so I didn't feel any pain. Yeah. But like I could feel them cutting. You could feel the sensation.

Yeah, like it felt like cutting, but it felt like, I don't know. It's weird. Yeah. I imagine maybe this how like an orange feels when you peel it. He's got no feelings. You know what I mean?

I wouldn't know, I didn't think of an orange. I just, it was interesting. I mean, it was- You really made me think with that one. Yeah, I was like, oh, that's, that's a weird analogy, but okay, okay. I get what you're saying. Honestly, I think talking to Pete about his,

his surgery experience scared me more than anything about, like, surgery in Japan. Yeah. Because his sounded like barbaric. Because they made him, like, get a, like, a catheter with like no painkillers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, that's insane.

Oh, shit. The thing in your pee-pee. Yeah. Oh, my pee. No painkillers. You went through the pain Olympics? Yeah, no anesthesia. I was like, I'm not, I'm gonna ask for all the drugs.

Yeah, every drug. Yeah, just give me everything you've got, dog. Like, get the good shit on the top, does your ass still hurt? It hurts if I sit on it in that position, but I can sit down, I just have to like put the pressure. Which cheek is it? Oh, no, she's in the middle.

Oh, it's right in the middle. It's not, it's not like in my crack. I just say you're there. I thought, no, I thought it was like. It's like a bar for your crack end. Yeah. Oh, okay, I thought it was like right in the middle of a cheek. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So, because I think as well, because my ass is big, when I would sit certain ways, kind of like, you know how like the, like sometimes your butt can like kind of like, shelf. It can like shelf, right? Yeah. And I think like I'd put too much pressure

in like one exact spot on my ass when I would sit like that. Right. Which was made worse by my dummy thick ass. So yeah, well, so be careful how you sit guys at home, especially if you work in an office especially if you're a BBL. Especially if you're a streamer who streams like 10 hours.

Yeah, exactly. I think I'm gonna have to stand occasionally more while streaming. I think so too, yeah. Make use of those standing desks. Well, yeah, so then when I, when I like, you know, came out of it, oh, by the way, the drowsy meds they gave to me, like, they didn't do fucking shit.

No. They didn't do nothing to me. They got, they, I think they gave me a Japanese dose. Yeah, they probably just gave me melatonin or something. Melatonin. Melatonin. Melton would knock me out, I think. Yeah.

I was gonna help you out, yeah. Well, on the car ride back, I was very, very, very, uh, like drowsy. Right, like I was like falling asleep in the cab. So it worked then. But then I got home and I was like totally fine. Yeah, yeah. I was like, well, shit, what do I do? I can't sit down and lying down after lie on my front.

I was like, what do I fucking do? So I just like went to my PC and like, just put it on standing mode. And I was like, I got nothing else to do. So I just playing League of Legends, like an hour after my seat. I was like, I don't know what else to do. Go back into league. Yeah, because, yeah, I was playing league.

Cause I don't, wait, when is- He can't cut the gamer cancer out, but he can't cut the gamer out. So I got rid of one cancer. You found the real game of cancer. I got rid of one cancer and I get to top it up, baby. Like, during this time now, I guess if you're watching this episode, I'll be like flying to America. And so we're going for the stream rewards, which should be fun.

But also, uh, during a week-long league grinding stream with Ludwig. I'm so sorry. He needs to get to platinum. You chose to do that? Well, so I like playing league. League's fun. Yeah. I don't like playing league in Japan.

Yeah. It sucks. But he's trying to get to Platte. And honestly, he sounds like fun, doing like a week-long league grind. You think he can carry him that much? Do you think he has the potential? I think so.

Is he gamer enough? Dude, he's like weirdly, like insanely committed. He's like going to sleep watching Vods and like listening to league analysis. He's too far. This is shit that I never used to do. Yeah. You know, that's boring as fuck.

Yeah. But I've, you know, cause I wanted to roughly keep up with him. You think you can still get to plat? Yeah, easy, easy, easy. Right now I'm like, I think I have like, I've been playing in, on the American service in Japan. Yeah. Which like 160 ping.

Yeah. It's brutal. But I've got like a 65 cent win rate. Okay, but those, that's, that's, that's NA though, you know. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay. But then when I go there, it'll be like Rock Lee, I take the weights off. And I just fucking lock in and hard carry him.

Because right now, because I'm on that ping, I can't play like Fiora or anything like that. Yeah, yeah. I can't do any like quick champions. Right. I'm literally playing like, I'm playing like, her, the champions. Like fucking, I'm just spamming Zach.

Oh, okay. Because it's just fucking big, I'm just playing big, big tanks that don't do shit. Yeah, thank you for the translation. Yeah. But it's, honestly, it's kind of fun playing league again. Yeah. But I don't want to, I want to be done with it, though, as well.

It is fun to play. Is it because Archangain just got released? And you're like, she. Arcane was hyped too. Arcane was high. It's cool to play league right now for the next month and then it's- And that's not cool.

Yeah, it's not cool again. Yeah, yeah. Well, because you know, Worlds was so high. Yeah, it was amazing. It was. And then Arcane comes out. And so it's kind of like, you know, league's kind of cool for another month.

So I'm gonna enjoy it. The league place comes out of the bunk. Yeah, pretty much, yeah, pretty much. Yeah, pretty much. The fallout is done. Then I'm done. We're relapsing once again. Yeah.

So hopefully by the time, you know, that, you know, you're watching this episode in a week, hopefully we'll have got to platinum. That'll be fun. Platinum's easy. It's easy. I've never got to Platinum. Don't look at me, but to be fair, I've never got invested, though.

I've never got invested enough to grind because I fucking, I fucking hate grinding any competitive game. To me, it's like, I don't know, something about it, it's like a trance. You just keep like queuing up and like playing, I don't know how. I think that's called Stockholm Strait.

Yeah, I think so. I think it's something like that. It definitely must be. I remember having this point where, you know, I believe it was league, but it doesn't matter what kind of game it is, any competitive game where you get addicted to it. And then you have a day where you just do nothing

but play this one video game. And then you like don't get anything. And then you gain like five LP or something by the end after about like six games. And you go to bed and I just thought to myself, wow. What a waste of time. I literally just wasted a day. You just like quietly start crying.

Yeah, yeah. And that's when I was just like, okay, I'm gonna give up every competitive game and just start playing single player games. Because- It is more fulfilling. It is more fulfilling. To me, you play a single-player game and you always feel like you've made some progress

in that single-player game, whether it's like going through more of the story, or the levels. Competitive games, for me, it's just like, sometimes you feel good, but it's not worth the days where you just finish and you just feel like you've achieved nothing. I think there's just, there's something,

like, deep inside of me that just inherently, loves outplaying another player and something. Yeah. Like it does send to my brain. I can't get that from a hard challenge, like a Jump King game or a JRP. Right. But I think I always need that occasionally.

Like I need my fix. Because obviously I've been in a huge single player kind of kick. Yeah. Occasionally I need to come back and I need to get a taste. I need to feel the toxicity. Dude, I'm in these lobbies. I'm becoming toxic again.

Like I'm slowly like I would, when I first got back into, the playing league, I would type. Now I'll do full on fucking essays, be like, you're fucking worthless. You should, I'm- The Caps lock is always on. I know, I'm aware that I'm playing on my account.

I'm fully like, okay, if someone would like tweeted out, be like, Connor, why are you being a-a-in-a-legged and the league of league? Yeah, what do you want me to do? It's League of Legends. This guy was 0-and-5, like, inting my lane.

Like, he deserves to be called the swine that he is. See, I'm gonna be opposite type of game. I'm like, come on, guys, if we work together, we can win, guys, come on. And then everyone else. Don't tilt, go, shut the fuck up, pussy. Just don't tilt. Just like, there was like a guy,

I was playing yesterday, he was playing against a champion called Fizz. I guess. He's kind of like a noob champ. Like in low Elo, he's really, like people just don't know what to do. And this guy was like, man, he's just, Fizz is O-Pee, I don't know how to,

he's, this guy's like, oh and six playing Cassio OPA. And he's like, it's impossible to play against Fizz. He's too O.P. I was like, dude, we're in literally, we're in Silver. He's not O.P. No one in fucking Challenger plays this character. He's dog shit. You keep positioning wrong.

Yeah. I was just going off on him being like, you're just dumb. Things. Like just, I never even read a whole essay being like, like you are so fucking moronic, you're in the enemy jungle and you got caught and you think the champion's OP?

No, what's Ope is your ability to be fucking dumb? He's regressing. He's regressing as a person. I don't know. Oh no. Getting the bud cancer, I really did something. Yeah, yeah, right? Yeah.

Yeah. All this good spirit also sucked out. It was like a vacuum. One cancer left and another entity. It was all happened when the motherfucker when the motherfucker picks up league again, man. Oh my God, God. There is something about it, but you know what?

Because I've been playing on the America servers, they just don't know how to be toxic like the EU people do. The EU people are so much more creative with their toxicity. It's another level. I'd say the Asians are pretty creative with their toxicity. toxicity. Yeah, sure. If you hear, especially some... They'll say insults that I don't even know what it means. They'll be like, you're a friend of dog. I'm like, what is that? I don't know what that

means, but I'm offended. Like, I feel like that's bad. Like, is that bad in some, in some culture? Like, what do they mean? Have you seen some of the Chinese flame? They get poetic with their flame, man. I'm like, holy shit, this is literature. They're writing poems. They're writing poems. They're writing poems. It's, I don't know, man. Chinese flames goes hard, man. I'm like, I can't even be mad. I'm like, I can't even be Matt, that's just impressive. It's like Japanese YouTube hate comments. I'm just like, damn, this is like,

this is some generational, like, this is like, I'm offended, my unborn son is probably offended. Like, this is bad. Yeah, I just remember like, when I started league and playing like, I guess in more recent years, I'm like, damn, people have just gone better.

Oh, people are very good at league. I'm like, these bronze games, people know how to manipulate waves. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, I was playing silver. and someone was freezing the wave. I was like, what the fuck is going on? Like, how do you know how to freeze the wave?

It's fucking silver four. It's concerning. You're like, why do you know how to do it? That's why I was like, do you think you still get to Platt because, yeah, Platt, Platt back in the day and Platt now is probably like, very different. I think a lot of people still have, like, very bad macro knowledge.

Right, right. The game. I think Laining's gotten a lot harder. Laining is like... I think macro people are still as shit is ever. Because macro is the hardest part, I think, like knowing when to rotate or like TP to a fight. Yeah.

Or where to-speaking, God damn it. I think that kind of stuff hard. English motherfucker. Also any like non-metta champions, think people really struggle against. Okay. That's why I think I'm playing like Zach Top is busted because people just don't know how to play with Zach.

Is that not meta? He was played in worlds. Was he? I mean, he was like, like, once. Zach Top was like a thing in like the L.E.C. for a while. Sorry, well, we're getting off the other. Yeah, can we talk about something else? Anything else.

I beg of you. Jack Top, well. It's dirty. Don't get me back to me. I don't care about Zach's sexual preferences of being top or bar. What games you've been playing, Joey? Come on.

I've, fuck old, bro. Yeah, that's what we told me. I've had time played games recently. Yeah, I've touched Dragon Quest, I guess. Yeah. Other than that, not nothing really. Well, the game of year nominations just came out. Oh, really?

Yeah. Is metaphor on there? Metaphor on there? Fuck, yeah, let's go. What is the game of, nominations this year. That's my game in the year. Aldon Ring DLC. Baltrow.

Oh, that was this year, wasn't it? Yeah. Rebirth was this year. So has this year been- Blackmuth, Wukong and Astro- Has this year been a good year for gaming? I mean, I've played two of these and I've thoroughly enjoyed.

I have played two of them, no. Yes. Bautro came out this year? Yeah, you came out this year. I remember playing in January. That is this year. No, no, but I feel like I was late to it. January is the first month.

No, I know, I know, I know. But I feel like, I'm saying that because I was January and I was late to it, so I'm like, huh? Well, seven rebirth came out in February, I believe. Yeah. What do you want to win there? Metaphor? I mean, I don't really have a say, because I've played a third of these games.

I think it would like Meta4 to win it. I would like Meta4 to win it. Okay, out of Final Fantasy and Metaphor, which one do you want? Which one do you think? Do you genuinely think it's the better game as well? I think it's a much better game. I think even in the Final Fantasy 7 thing,

I preferred remake over rebirth. Right. So I think metaphor should win, personally. But I have a feeling it's gonna be either Wukong or Eldon Tree. Eldon Tree, Eldon Tree. Eldon Tree. Sorry. I don't think the D.L.C. should have been how many.

I don't think it's so either, but, you know. I mean, I haven't played the DLC. I've finished the base game now. and fucking amazing game, incredible game, but I'm not sure of the DLC is worthy of, you know, by category, should be able to be nominated for Game of the Year. I've been playing Black Myth Wukong as well.

So it's a solid game. Like, if you say metaphor and Final Fantasy Rebirth are like fucking amazing top tier games, I would say Wukong is like a solid game. solid game. Like I, it's, it's,

I don't know if I'm biased because I came into it right after playing Eldering. So it's like, you're playing one of like the most goaded fucking action RPGs of all time

to another one. Yeah, it's, it definitely is a step down for my Eldon Ring experience. But it's, it's been fun. But I,

I wouldn't say that it's my game of the year. It's like, it's like reading Claymore after finishing berserk. It's like, it's good. But it's not the sur.

That's actually such a good analogy. Holy shit. No, I guess that. Yeah. I mean, I'd say this year has been just the goaded you here if you were a JRP fan. Oh my God, we were eating so well as JRPG players. Yeah. But like you can't play all the JRPGs. It's the problem, right?

Yeah, yeah. I've played most of them that came out this year. Most, but not all. How many JRPGs you played this year? So I played seven rebirth. Okay. I played Unicorn Overlord. I play metaphor re-Fantasia.

Unicorn overlord. I need to play that. I need to play that. I need to play that. Persona 3 reload, finish that. Finish metaphor and I'm currently working through Drain Quest 3, HD 2D remake.

So I finished five and I'm playing my six this year. Holy shit. I'm committed, boy, I'm locked in. That's hard, man. We've been eating well this year. No wonder you haven't had time to do anything else, Joey. There's so many JRP's coming out right now. I know. I've been eating so well.

Yeah, I mean, I, even me, I've only played persona three reload and I want to play Unicorn Overlord as well. Yeah, I've heard really, really good things about that. Oh, such a good game. What's are the role-playing nominations for this year? Is there a, is there a nomination for RPG? I'm pretty sure they do, do they? I mean, there's a lot of categories.

Yeah, here we go. Best four. Dragon Stogman 2, Eldon Ring, Final Face Semer rebirth. Oh, like a dragon, infinite wealth. I played a little in that, and metaphor. Damn, no persona three reload. No persona three reload, no unicorn overlord. Damn, man.

Was persona C3 reload that good? I mean, it's Pesona 3. It's persona 3. Yeah, right. So it's the best game. It's my favorite story so far in the Pesona series. Yeah. Same.

Yeah, because I guess looking at all these, I've been... It's nice that at least there's some original entries on there. I kind of, I remember the last time we were kind of dismayed by the fact that there's so many remakes and sequels and stuff. Yeah. Some good... Like this year. I'm shocked Balotra got game of the year though. I'm just kind of surprised by that.

Well, you were addicted to that for a while. Yeah, I mean, I've only heard good things about it. I just feel like normally the, I don't know, in the Game Awards, sometimes they are a bit reluctant to put like big indie games on the game of the year. Yeah, yeah. I'll keep like 120 hours into Dragons Dogment 2. Oh wow.

I've heard, again, good things about it, but I've never played it. Like a Dragon Infinite Wealth, I played a little bit of it, but I was like, shit, I need to replay seven because it's like a direct sequel. Yeah. Yeah, because I haven't, I'm slowly making my way through seven. But it's good.

I enjoyed seven a lot. I should have no desire to play the new one after doing the original. I don't know why. Yeah, but well you, only seven. You only just like recently finished it, didn't you? Right, so I'm like, I'm kind of like that.

That was pretty good. But, uh, I mean, it's a lot, it's quite different, but yeah, it is quite different. You say it's comparable to the Ava movies, to the original Ava? Yeah. Yeah, I think, yeah, actually, I think that is the best way to describe it.

It's like, it's the same vibe. and feeling from the original game, but obviously with just a lot more updated graphics and obviously the gameplay is a little bit different as well. Yeah. It's more action RPG now instead of turn-based. Yeah, because I think the hardest thing is just finding time to play all these games, but... I found a way somehow.

Somehow you found a way on top of all the different gacha games as well. Because seven rebirth, I think I spent like 50, 60 hours on. Something like that. I heard it was a really, really long game. Yeah, well, because they added so much like, like, what is it, cinematics. Yeah.

So like, god damn, some of these cutscenes are fucking long. Even in metaphor as well, like the opening cutscene is like, yeah, there you go, 47 hours. Oh my God. Because like even metaphor, the opening cut scene is like 45 minutes, so. I love it. I love short games. I love it.

a four-hour banger. I mean, I do too, but you know, I put 90 hours in metaphor and that was great 90 hours spent, I will say that. Well, it's crazy because sometimes I'll walk away and I'll, you know how like your memory and like capacity for things? I'll feel the same way about some long games that I will have about like two-hour experience games. It's so weird. It's like in my head. So I'm like, why can't my memory distinguish any of those feelings as like long or short? Right. Whereas I'll be like, no, I just liked that thing. And that's all I feel. Yeah.

So then I'm like, why do I? Well, I think it depends how much you get into it. Yeah, yeah, I guess so. Some games like, you know, some games you can truly get into, immerse yourself in the story and world. And some games are just really like quick, but still powerful experiences.

Yeah. And, you know, both are great, both, both are great types of games. Yeah. Sometimes, sometimes I do like the short, quick indie games as well. Oh, yeah, no, do like, you know, the metaphor for me, personally will be a game I'll probably remember for a while, just because, you know, it was long and, you know,

because it's so story and character intensive that I thoroughly enjoyed it. I mean, it looks cool. I do want to play it. Oh, it's just long. Yeah, it is long. But, you know, I had a really, really profound experience playing it. It was a great game. But at the same time, you know, fucking Super Mario RPG, four and a half hour game just as memorable. Super Mario Op.G? Yeah. That's like 12 hours? No. Yeah? 12 hours?

Super Mario obviously the remake, the screenings? The remake, yeah. Yeah, it's like 10 hours. I finished it like five. What? Yeah. No. That's like, no, you did not.

But I've played the original, so I knew what to do. I think it's, no, no way you began. I definitely did not take 12 hours to finish that. I literally spent maybe five, six hours. Did I accidentally speed run that game? It took me, I was going pretty fast and it took me like 12. Really? Yeah.

I think it's, like, I knew. That was a fun. I loved fun. That was a fantastic reading. I had a great time of this. Because I was like, that's a short game and it's great. There was. There you guys.

You're like close to speed running. No, it's like three hours. That's the old one. Yeah, you would be in the top 100 speed runners, Joey. I don't believe you. I definitely did not spend 12 hours though. So you finish in a single day? Oh, I finished it in a day.

Okay, yeah, easily. I finished it like, you're like close to the time. I literally finished that in like an afternoon. And I was like, I was like, damn, Was this game always this short? But dude, but even though short-ass game, fucking fantastic, you know? Literally a tenth of the length of, you know, metaphor. I really enjoyed that.

It was a great game. It was a lot of fun. Yeah. So it's just about like how much of it, you know, is, it's one, how much you get into it. And two, how much the game allows you to immerse yourself into it, I think. How long did it take you to beat metaphor compared to the other persona games? Well, metaphor, I took 90 hours. Um, uh, persona like three reload, for example, because I've already played the original three.

Yeah. So I kind of knew the story beats, even though they changed a little bit of it. Yeah. Uh, but three reload, I think I spent 60 hours. Uh, persona five, I spent about 110. I do think now playing other JRPs and playing other games. I do think maybe like the persona games and maybe metaphor. I don't know what the story is like.

I think it's maybe just a tad. bit too long. Really? Yeah. I really felt it during Persona 3 reload. With someone like, you know, you get to this point where I think, uh, you get to this one in persona 3 where you're like, okay, I feel like I'm getting close to end game.

And then they add like two, three extra dungeons and you're like, fuck. A metaphor does that for sure. There's like a, I think it was like 60 hours in and I'm just like, oh fuck, I think this is about to be it. Yeah. So I was like, I was fucking grinding a I'm like, I'll grind just in case, right?

It's like the last one, because I don't know how leveled I am. So I spent a little bit of time grinding and I got to and they were like, just kidding. There's another 30 hours to go. Like, cool. Yeah, because I also felt that during, did you feel that during Eldon Ring at all? Where there was definitely points where I had to grind.

Yeah. Because there was, I would get to certain areas. Because it's also non-linear. You actually don't know if you're just under leveled or if you're on the right path. But there is no right path, so I guess it's kind of like, because then I would grind and then I would, like I missed the area behind the start.

Like you know when you got to fight the airport? If you like turn. Yeah, yeah, I know. Yeah, I totally missed that. Right. And so when I went back, it was like, Saitama turning out. It was just like, why would one-shotting everyone?

It was definitely easy mode. So it was kind of like, I did grind because I wanted to do certain things and then maybe I was over leveled to some things, under leveled of other stuff. It was never like quite a balance. Yeah, because like to me with Eldon Ring, I felt like it was like pretty good

progression up to like a certain point where I was like, okay, I'm pretty, I must be pretty close to the end game and in the end game area. And then suddenly they just add a whole new fucking area out of nowhere. Which area are you talking about? Snow area. Oh, yeah, the same.

Then it's like, it's, it's, that was I think one of the weakest areas. Yeah, yeah. It felt, it felt to me like I was satisfied with the experience I got, then I'm like, okay, we're gonna add a whole new other area, but it also feel it didn't feel as polished as the previous. Yeah, yeah.

Like they just tacked it on at the end. Yeah. I really like the idea of like a snow place that's like constantly blizzarding. You can't really see it like that idea, but yeah, it did feel kind of like. Yeah. And to me like the 40 to 60 hour range is just like that golden points and anything above that I feel like for most of the games I play, I realize I think I'm just playing it just to complete it rather than I'm as invested in it.

Right. Yeah. Most of the Final Fantasy that I've played have been 30 to 40, and I feel like that's a pretty good sweet spot because like you can really get, like, sink your teeth into it, but it never overstays.

Yeah. That's why I had such a profound experience, I think with like 13 Sentinels because that was like a 30 hour game and I was like, I feel like if it went any longer than this, I would have gotten a little bit tired, especially with a plot that convoluted. I'm like, with a plot that convoluted and if it was like 90 hours,

I think I would have just like had ego death. Like I would have just died on this. spot. Like, I can't. It's like, I can't, I can't even remember the plot of. Yeah, I can barely, I can barely like make hands or tails of like what the fuck is happening. Let alone it's like three times the length. Trying to keep up with the different plot progressions of that. I'm just like, if I don't finish this in like one sitting or a few settings, I'm going to forget everything. I literally finish that game in three days because every day I woke up and I'm like, if I don't immediately play, continue playing this the next day, I'm going to forget everything.

Yeah, yeah. But it was great. I loved it. You can Can you play Eletree? I will eventually. Eventually. Yeah, there's so many games I wanna play, man. It's a problem, it's a problem. Sure. And I'm trying to manage.

What are the other categories, actually? I'm kind of curious. Too many games to play, and yet you choose League. You know, it's the, it's like a kind of weird, horrible thing where you can't get into some games, they're too long. But Leia Legends is truly the longest game of all time. Yeah. But the trick of it is that you can pick it up for 30 minutes

and be done completely, right? but it's never 30 minutes, but you know, you could have a 40 minute experience be done. And so I think that's a very tempting thing and nowadays. To me, there's so many games I wanna play, but sometimes you just want that comfort game. Yeah, yeah, I think that the,

I was addicted to Eldering at the time because during my free time, when I just didn't know what to do, I could be like, oh, I could just boot up Eldon Ring for a bit, but I don't know, sometimes, it takes me like such a long time to get to that point in a game where I'm like, invest into it.

Sometimes you can take like three, four hours before I like truly start getting into like the gameplay loop and getting like addicted to the game. No, no, I get that because I was like that with Xenoblade Chronicles 3. Like I think I tried that game like three or four times and every single time I'm just like, man, I'm just like, I don't know. Maybe I'm just not really into this game. And then one time I was like after I think the fourth or fifth attempt,

I was like, okay, I think I finally get it now. I don't know why I didn't give up on this game. I was like, no, surely this is a game I'll enjoy. Yeah. But just for some reason, it just wasn't clicking. It happens. It happens. Yeah. And then the fourth or fifth time, randomly my brain was like,

I get it now. I understand. You conditioned yourself into it. Yeah, yeah. And it was great. What's the best VR AR game? I'm actually curious about that. So I feel like it's been a pretty bad year for VR.

Let's see. I mean, I don't normally- I haven't heard of any of these games. Right. I feel like VR is a very bad year just in its own bubble. Yeah. You know, it feels like it's kind of struggling a little bit.

I wanna, I wanna see, go back to the categories. I wanna see best score and music. Ooh. There's metaphor on here. Yeah, yeah it is, let's go. Yeah, all of these are Japanese, right? No, except for Shift up. No, persona three reload though.

No, persona three, it's all right. Miguro, megaro is there with metaphor, though. I'll take that. Metaphor representation. Oh, and Silent Hill too. That soundtrack is amazing. All right, cool. I'm satisfied.

I just wanted to see if there was on there. I'm satisfied. Is there any other categories you guys are interested? What about indie games? Yeah, what's the best independent game? Those two, independent debut and best indie game, okay. Let's see Best Independent Game. Yeah.

Animal Well. Oh, Animal Well was like a big hits this year, wasn't it? Oh, never. Yeah. I've heard a lot of things about that never game. It looks really, really, really, I didn't know it was out, Is it out? Fuck.

That is actually a game I would be wanting to play. Fuck, another game to add. If it's on the game awards nomination. Did it come out? Yeah, October 5th. Oh, shit. All right, well, I'm not. Well, great, another game to add to the never-ending list.

Go to the next category as well. Yeah, best indie game debut. What's the difference between them? I guess it would be the first game from the studio. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, Manilords has been so part. I've seen this quite a lot pop up. Manor, yeah, it's like a, like a civ building game.

Build like a civilization kind of thing. Oh, okay, okay. That sounds like my type of game. I love civ type games. Yeah, I've seen a lot of it but never actually played it. Let's see, what's best game direction and best narrative? I'd be curious to see what best narrative is this year as well. this year as well.

Matterful, let's go. Damn. It's basically all the best game. It's all game of the year. It's all game of the year. This is just game of the year. All ever again. What's best narrative?

I wonder. Let's go. It's literally. All right, well, metaphor is getting... I swear to God, if metaphor doesn't win a single one. It must do. It must do. It must do.

Just one. I just need it to win one. Please. Yeah, I'd be hyper if it wins. game of the year. I'd be hyper shit. Most anticipated game, bottom left. All right, let's check that out.

Oh, GtA6. GTSX. Oh, Ghost of Yote. I mean, Gtasex should win that one. I feel like that's like the most anticipated thing. True. I mean, that's like the meme, right? Yeah.

Ain't the way we got X before Gtta 6. I'm definitely going to check out. I'm definitely going to check out Ghost of Yote. Def Stranding's having another game? Yeah. Are you know that? I didn't know that. It's like two years ago, right?

Two years ago, yeah. Death Stranding Beach episode. I mean, Metro Prime 4 is while I'm looking forward to it. I've heard more people talking about Death Stranding than people who have actually played it. I don't know a single person who've actually played it. Well, it leaves an impression, I think. I only know one person who's played it.

I'm kind of curious to check it out, though. Yeah, it's always been out. I'm like, I'm curious to check it out. But not today. Yeah. I feel like playing something else today. True. Yeah.

Bring popcorn. Well yeah, the only thing I know about Death Stranding is that the last cut scene is like two and a half hours. It's ridiculous. It's like, I'm like, Kojima, just make a movie. So he just, yeah. Just make a movie at this point. I mean, he's always wanted to.

Yeah, right? Well, that's what Death Stranding is. Yeah, yeah. I mean, have you ever played any of the Metal Gear Slotted games? Yeah, I played Snake Eater? Snake Eater? Yeah. Oh, I've only played Revengeance.

Oh, the... Nanomachine son. Yeah, Nano machine son. I really wanna play that. That looks so good. It's like an eight hour game. It's like you can do one sitting. Yeah. I always wanted to, when it came out,

I always wanted to play MGS5. I just never got around to playing it, but I've only heard, again, good things about it. Have you played it? MGS5 is the only one I haven't played actually. Because I heard it was like, you know, this was when Kajima still worked with Konami and then it kind of like,

or acts been way through and then they- What is best family? The fuck, sorry, I just saw that. And I was like, what? Best family games? Oh, oh, best family. It's just family. Just the best family.

It's like the Smiths, the Johnson's. Yeah, I'm so. The Seussons. You know what do you mean by that? Oh God. And because of wisdom is a family game? I think they just mean cutesy maybe. I guess.

Yeah. Just one you can play with the kids. The new party is fire. Oh, really? Jambery. It's so good. Okay, how, like, is it any different? Because when I, maybe Nintendo just sold it to me in a weird way,

but it just looked like, Super Mario Party, like best of compilations. Is it actually a different game? That was the last one. The last one was the best of. Oh, okay. What it was kind of sold out. So this is a different one?

Yeah, yeah, or like totally new mini games, all brand new, it's pretty good. It's weird because Mario Party's one of those games where I feel like you've changed one or two, tweak one of the two of the mechanics and it feels either pretty slow or fast or boring. Yeah, yeah. This one feels pretty good to play.

Okay. I've had a lot of fun with this one so far. Okay. How was it compared to like the other Mario Party games? I'd say it's out of the recent like three it's probably up there

with the last one the last one was really good too yeah the last one was good I like the maps on this one there okay I like this one it's fun it's fun we'll play on Patreon yeah yeah yeah we'll try it out

Patreon.com slash trashdace yeah I mean games a lot of games a lot of games a lot of games what's your guys's game of the year if you had to pick like your personal game of the year

because mine's metaphor obviously This is metaphor. Mine would probably be metaphor if I had played it because I know I'm gonna love that game. Yeah, but I haven't had time to play it yet. All right. Which games I've played this year.

Let me open up the database. A lot of the games that I've played this year were not from this year. I've been doing a lot of that. That was kind of the same for me last year where I don't always play the games as they come out. Yeah. Honestly, I played Satisfactory came out this year

and I played the fuck out of that. That was a lot of fun. Yeah, I mean, I played the Eldon Ring this year and that was, That was probably that didn't come out this year, but I can mostly say that that was my gaming experience of the year. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, like most of the games I played this year

did not come out. I like how you have to look through your fucking Vod's. Yeah, that's hard. Yeah, because I played like fucking Krono Trigger, like, uh, yeah, it was regarded. That was this year? Darkest Dungeon 2. Holy shit.

That feels like last year that you talked about. Yeah, right. Yeah, what the fuck man? Yeah, I played more Pokemon this year. you know what I mean? Like, so Heldives came out this year. That was pretty fun. Oh yeah, shit.

Yeah, right at the start of the year. Helldyes was fun. That was the thing that came and then went. And then it died of cringe. Well, cause the dabs fucking. Yeah. We don't get into that. They all know what happened.

They tanked that game, bro. Because they removed everything fun from it. What did they do? Because I did not know about it. Basically like, obviously like you can't update a game super fast. Like it's kind of hard to, to do that. but basically the one thing that they did, which at least ruined it for me,

was like every gun that was kind of good, they just nerfed them. Right. It's PVE. So it's not like there's a punishment for having a good gun. Yeah. Instead of making other guns more viable, they just made every gun feel like shit to use. So they just made the game harder.

They just made the game super fucking hard, which is fine, but it kind of feels lame when you had these guns which felt good and were really, you know, engaging to use and all these like systems and then nothing works anymore and shit. And you're like, oh, okay, great. Why don't we just make the other stuff good?

I mean, I was barely able to play before they know the game. Now I wouldn't have no fucking chance. So, man, I mean, I feel like this, it's been an okay year for gaming. I'll say that again. It's been okay, it's okay, it's okay. It's been okay.

The most things I've played this year have not come out the shit. So like, I feel confident in saying it's been okay. If you're gonna go to game, If you're a JRPG fan, it's been goaded. It's been goaded. If you are not a GRP exclusive gamer,

I think it's been a- Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's fair. I can get behind that. Yeah. Like when we have a DLC in the game of the year, I'm like, come on. Yeah.

Sure. Like, Eldon Ring DLC deserves props, but we couldn't find another six. Like, we couldn't find another thing that was worthy? Like, I don't know. A hundred ring two, man. Yeah, that's true.

Damn. Two Ope. She just released it as Eldon Ring 2 or some shit. But you and talking hour And I went talking out at the same time. Oh yeah. And we both got fucked over by the weather. Yep. So yeah, when we record trash taste,

we always talk about our schedules when we're available to do it. And Joe was like, oh, I'm gonna Ocenaura. I was like, oh shit, no way, I'm gonna Ockin hour during the exact same period. Yeah. And I was like, where are you going? And then we accidentally booked the exact same hotel

Yeah, the exact same day. The same day. And then there was a landslide in Ockinawa. So we couldn't go. Yeah, there was a giant like, I guess, like concentration of rain that happened the day before. And we found out 10 minutes before we landed. And as we're waiting at the baggage carousel,

Aki gets this email and was like, oh yeah, so you can't go up here and everyone who is currently here, we're trying to evacuate them. So sorry, peace. So we're like, fuck, what are we gonna do? So last minute, I booked a hotel in Naha and we just chilled in Naha for three days.

It was great. Yeah, I cracked open, cracking open Oreons in 10 in the morning or six. So instead of filming a video, you just had a little vacation. Well, originally we went, I wasn't even gonna film a video because this is the same treehouse hotel

that Arcan I stayed in last year. And we had made a video for them back then. And they had liked us and the videos we'd made so much that they invited us back because they had built new rooms, I guess, new tree houses. So they were like, yeah, you wanna come and check out the new tree houses

and we were like, well, we had a good time last time. So fuck it, let's go. Fortunately, we couldn't do that. And instead I just got belligerently drunk for three days in Naha. It was awesome. It was so hot. Yeah, it was like 20 degrees.

Dude, the second day we were there, it was 32 degrees. People were at the beach. And in November, and I was in this cab, and there's, you know, because obviously this is Okinawa and unlike in Tokyo, people in all, the cab drivers in Okinawa love talking to you. Oh, really? Yeah.

They're constantly talking to them. I found out though why they constantly talk to me. It's because out of the four cab drivers that we had on our trip there, three of them were like, oh, I thought you were Okinawan. Apparently I have the face of an Orkinawan. Oh, interesting.

And I'm like, oh, I've never gotten that before. And he's like, yeah, I think that's why a lot of people here talk to you, because they think you're a local. And I was like, oh, okay, I mean, that's cool. But yeah, on the 32 degree day, I jumped in the cab and it was this, you know, kind of older,

gentleman, of course, taxi driver in Japan. Yeah. And he's driving us. And I was, and, you know, I was like, well, I should probably open up a conversation. We're in this cab for the next 40 minutes. So I was like, man, it's so hot today, isn't it? The dude's just like, oh my God, let me tell you about it. It just goes off on this giant rat. It's like, I've been here for 60 years.

This is fucking unacceptable. It's like, it's like when I was a, you know, when I was a teenager, peak summer in Okinawa would be like 33 degrees. And I was like, oh wow, that actually sounds great. And he's like, yeah, I know. It's 32 degrees today and it's fucking November. Like, what is this shit? It's like, we're doomed.

And then he started going off on about like global warming and this like, doomsday ran and shit like that. I'm like, all right, I'm gonna stop talking. It is worrying. You unleashed the beast. Yeah, the beast by saying one sentence. I didn't go for vacation. I went to film with Chris, so that was interesting.

We entered the same island that you went to that one time on journey across Japan, the one that's like really far north. And then there's a giant bridge going to this tiny island. There's a giant cool-ass bridge that leads to the smallest island. And it's like, surely they've cost of making this bridge is a lot more than the whatever's on this island. I don't remember which one that was. I assume one of the-

Not Ishigaki. No, it was Okinawa. Oh, Ishaki? It's near Ishikaki. Yeah, it's near Ishikaki. Kumejima, maybe. Oh, yeah, okay. Okay, wait, she's like, you see where,

so I opened up the map. Yeah, I'll try to zoom in in her hands for you. I mean, you could just go Google Maps as well. I'll probably be easier. You know what Nago is? Nago, yeah. There's those two little foot islands and there's a tiny one.

Oh, Litt Island? One looks like a dick. I mean, no, that's the Ea Island. L'I. I thought that said, L'IRAGE coming now. I went to Litt Island. Yeah, so zoom in.

No, no, no, no, no, like Nagel, the middle. Yeah, the middle, the middle, the middle, yeah, right, right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, where's his naggle? Yeah, no, left, left. Okay, then go north from there. And north is a little bit more. Oh, that one there? No, no, north a little bit more.

A little bit more? That one. A cordi? Yeah, oh yeah, okay, I remember that one. That was a cool island. That was a cool island. Look, click on the beach. Look at this bridge.

It's fucking insane. It should be in some of the pictures. Oh yeah, I do remember this. It's like the most insane bridge. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not so long to this tiny island. Yeah, it's really cool. Yeah, very cool.

So we stay there. It was really cool. Ocunah's awesome. That beach is fucking beautiful as well. Yeah, yeah. It's unbelievable. Like this bridge is like insane. Yeah, I do remember this.

I was like the UK could never. But it was really fun. Andrew Ocknow. Okinaw Sobo was really fucking good. But yeah, I did some water sports as well. That was fun. Oh yeah? I just got Chris to do some water sports as well.

No fucking way. Yeah, I managed to convince him. Yeah, he had a traumatic experience last time. Yeah, we went on like the banana boat thing, whatever it was. Oh, speed boat thing? Yeah, and he didn't like that. He was like begging them to go slow

and I kept being like, no, faster please. Well, yeah, because if you don't know, that's, the last time he did that, he perforated his ear from. Yeah. Oh shit. And I had to take into an ear doctor, and I saw the, he's like, yeah,

I think I like hurt my eardrum. Took him to an ear doctor. The doctor looked at it, you know, with the scope and there was a big TV there so I could see inside of this ear, just this giant hole in the scene. I was like, oh, my bad old age. I did wakeboarding for the first time.

Weightboarding is good fun. And I've never felt like I've been beaten up so much in my life. The shit was, oh my God. Yeah, it's tough. It's the one where the boat drags you and you're on like a surfboard. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And like, it was, oh my God. I always wanted to try it. Dude, I did not expect it to be that physical. It's, and what you mean? Because like, you kind of have to like crunch yourself into your ball and grab onto this rope and then they just pull you and you have to quickly like hold on for dear, like so fucking hard to hold onto this thing

whilst the board slowly like drags to the top of the water. And then once it's out of the water and that kind of going, you stand up. But then you've still gotta pull your entire body weight and like stay balanced. You gotta lean back. Yeah. Yeah.

And meanwhile you have to control your legs because this board is fucking. Yeah, it's going crazy. And then like, you know, the jet ski that's pulling me, if it like turned a little too aggressively, it would sound like three ripples that would like fucking destroy me. Yeah, up in the air. But the one thing that I kept doing is like,

I was trying to understand what she was telling me to do because it's really tough, but I would try and stand up too quick. And then what would end up happening is that the jet ski would pull me and I wouldn't let go. But the board was in the water and wanted to pull me the other way. Yeah, yeah. So it was like a medieval torture device

where I was getting pulled in both directions and it hurts so fucking much. You're getting like hung, drawn and cord. And like the next day, it felt like I'd actually been beaten up, like genuinely. I was like, I was so sore and body hurts so fucking much.

Yeah. That's the thing, right? Is that like water sports, especially if you're doing it all day or even like all afternoon, my God, you forget just how much of your body you use in any water sport. Even if you're just like sitting there on a banana bow, right?

Like you're holding on to dear life. So you're still using a lot of muscle. And the next day you just fucked. I've always wanted to try though. Was it, was it fun? Yeah, yeah. I think it would have been nicer on a nicer day. It was quite, the waves were quite bad today I did it and it was quite gloomy.

Right. So it would have been nice, it was like lovely beach in summer. Yeah. The rain was kind of, uh, it wasn't too sure if I wanted to stay on it. Yeah, there was so much rain. Yeah. I mean, I mean, I mean, It is the winter.

Well, is it winter now? Yeah. Technically, yeah. Have you been talking out? I've never been to Ongah now. It's cool. It was like Hawaii, but good, I felt like. It's Hawaii, but a for-al.

Hawaii felt like it was, it'd been turned to like adult Disneyland, whereas Okinawa just a really awesome. At least, I mean, I wasn't in Naha, like the... Yeah. Well, I think, especially like around Noggle, like around where you were, is very, very nice. I think Naha's a little bit touristy nowadays,

but still a lot better than Hawaii, in my opinion. Yeah, I mean, I mean, Because you know, whenever I want to go to a beach, normally I just fly to Thailand and visit family in the same time. That's true. So, so I've always wanted to go to. You can meet in the middle.

You can meet in the middle. Yeah, just meet in the middle. Yeah. Does Okinawa do, the airport's international as well, right? Oh, okay, that'd be cool then. I think, because most of the, most of the, yeah, the tourists in Naha, like, just fly directly from China. Mm.

Yeah, so I think it's, like, kind of limited when it comes to international. Oh, yeah, there was, like, so many Chinese tourists. Yeah, well, because it's just right there. Yeah, I did. Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, I'm done. What do you recommend doing in Okinawa then? Where it's-

scared shit-faced, eh? Just get shit-faced. I mean, for me, my personal thing, my personal favorite thing about Okinawa is the food. It's just like the food culture is just completely different to anything else you can get in Japan. And oh my god, late,

I've always said the two places in Japan that have perfected Japanese food is Hokkaido and Okinawa. One side or the other. One side or the other. I don't know what it is, but like those two places, I think have just perfected

food and we went to this like salkisoba for instance which is like this okinawan sober that they only make there we we found this like dingy fucking salky sober place in like the back streets of like nahar way way far away from any touristy place that my friend recommended me and it was the best fucking thing i've ever had in my life it was so good but just like that kind of also the one thing i also really like about okinawa is that like they just they they love talking to strangers like they there's just this like stranger friend that I've missed so much living in Tokyo. Yeah.

That you can just like, if you like, you know, you've experienced a stranger friendliness in like all other, yeah. It's like that, but like even more sometimes. They just love talking to people because they just live in that island life. I just feel like it's the island vibe. It is the island line. You just gotta be chill living on the islands.

I've always said like I've always wanted to, if I were to live anywhere in my retirement, I'd probably move talking about. It was really fun driving around Okinaw as well. Okay. The views were awesome and the roads were quiet. So it's just fun driving around. Yeah, I assume it's not too busy this time of the year either.

No, it's dead. Yeah. Especially like where I went, it was like no one. Yeah. It was cool. In the summer it's a bit busy but, you know, beats staying in Tokyo for the summer. I mean, anything beats staying in Tokyo for the summer.

Sure, right? I mean, I, you know, I've always wanted, could you see yourself like living on an island like this? Like, permanently? I could live on an island like this. Retirement home for you on an island? Yeah. I've legitimately thought about potentially buying

like a holiday home in Okinawa. Oh, sure. Because I've been to Okinawa now probably, I think this time around that I just came back from, it's like my seventh or eighth time going. Damn, yeah. And I fucking love it. It's so nice.

I can see you viving with the island life. Yeah. I mean, I love the beach. Yeah, yeah, he's not. Everyone's one of them. Look, when a cab driver says, I thought you were a local, I basically got my citizenship at that point.

So I'm good, dog. You know, It's just like it's a little slower pace there, which is more chill. Yeah. You can't get things as fast and it's just like. The food is good, the vibes are good, the beaches are amazing.

Yeah, it's great. I would love to like live on an island for like a year or something just to see what the kind of, what that kind of life is like. Well, I mean, Japan's technically an island. You're not like a tropical island, Joe. Well, actually, America is technically an island. Yes, yes, Joey.

Thank you very much, Joey. Being that guy, Joe. I mean that guy. The UK is also an island, Joey. So is Australia, Joey. We've all grown up an island. Not islands I'd want to be on, but. Pretty much the island vibe wherever you go.

Yeah, that's well. Yeah. I've also been helping the anime men film a bunch of videos that... Oh yeah, yeah. You filmed with them, didn't you? Yeah, I have. Yeah, I heard from Navi that you filmed a video with them. Yeah, yeah, I just, I want to do them, you know,

you know, a solid, you know, help the new generation. All right, question. How much, on a scale of 1 to 10, how much did you feel like an unc? I didn't feel like an unk. I felt like a grander. I wish I felt like an unk, man. Holy fucking shit.

That's the thing, it's like, look, nothing against them, like the dudes. Like, they're nice guys. They're really. Super chill. Really good kids. I'm going to call you kids because in my eyes, they are kids.

Really good kids. But man, they go to good hearts. I, yeah, but like, but man, I emphasize with my actual uncle who tried so hard to relate to me when I was younger. Yeah. And I'm just like, oh, stop doing that man. I feel like that now. When I talk to them, I'm just like, damn, man. There's nothing I can say where I'm like, yeah, man,

same wavelength dogs. Like I can't be that way anymore. Yeah, I realize hanging out with the anime, man. I don't want to be that cringe adult that's just like, yeah, I'm still hip with the kid. I still talk like you guys. Yeah, we all remember watching you to Yasha, right? Yeah, no, just me, all right.

Cool. No, because it got to the point where they were like, explained to me like, I think for someone my age, I'm more in touch with like modern slang than other people my age. But they were explained to me like, some of, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, some of like the terminology

that were using, I was like, I was like, no, this is too much. Like they were talking about like the modern brain rot language, Do you remember any of it? Like, Huzz? Like the Huzz? H-U-Z-Z.

I think it's H-U-ZZ. What does that mean again? They're explaining this shit to me. What the fuck is the Huzz? The Huzz, the fuzz, the fuck. Can you- Well, the fuzz of Huzz to be in the act of consuming alcohol. I don't even think it was that.

I don't think it's that. Can you keep type in Huzz brain rot? brain rot. The huss, the brus and the grus. What the fuck is this? And I was like, Huzz is, Huzz is, Huzz, I think, is just

the term for like, the boys, I think, right? Now, Huss means, Hose. Okay, okay. Just say hose. Why, why are we abbreviating a four-letter word? All right, all right. So Huz, I guess, is the modern brain rot term for like hose, I guess. Okay, okay.

And the bros is like the bros. That makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah. Well, then what's groz? I have no idea what grows. The grandma, the grandma, Huz. The older?

Me when I pull up to Gros. Yeah, no, but... Gros crib. Very good kids, but it definitely like, hang out with them. I definitely, for the first time, definitely felt my age. Oh yes. It is like a whole different generation.

It's so scary. Just like when I, you know, when I was like talking to them and I was talking about- Yeah, I was it talking to them in, uh, at anime X- At anime X-B. Like look, again, great kids, love them. But my God, it's just like, again, it made me feel so old.

Yeah. Like just everything they said and like every time I tried to like be like, yeah, you know, like I loved that anime or like, you know, I love that game. I grew up with this thing and then they'll, you know, then they'd be like, oh well, you know, I was born in 2000 and I was like, 2000 and. What do you mean 2000 and?

That's not, that doesn't exist. Yeah, yeah, last night, they were like, oh, Gond, when did you start doing YouTube? Gump was like, uh, I don't know, when did you say? 2007, 2007, yeah, I'm four. He's like, that's fucked up. That's fucked up. That's fucked up, man.

That's fucked up. No, it was also super interesting talking to them as well. because obviously they are definitely in their like peak, I am passionate about anime era. Sure, you know. I'm like, ah. We all been there. Yeah, we've been there.

We've all been there. Everyone thinks they'll stay in it forever. Yeah. Doesn't happen. I still am. Only I am the last remaining one. Not like, peak degenerate, like love of anime. Yeah, yeah.

There was a period of my life where everything was anime for me. Yeah, yeah. And that passed, luckily. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Integrated to society. You became reformed. You're just, you just, you just, You just kind of realize there's just more to lie.

Don't say that. It's like saying Santa Claus is unreal. Yeah, it's like when you, because sometimes you talk to someone and even a good conversation, and then you slowly realize, like, and this is something I felt about myself, but more so now when I talk to, like,

quite young people, yeah. Is that you're like, damn, I forget like you haven't done anything when you're like 20. There's no stories to tell. Your life's just started. Yeah, there's no interesting things and I feel like if I had only limited myself

to consuming media and not like, I feel like, damn, I wouldn't have anything to talk about. Yeah. I feel like it's a shame, especially when sometimes people get so many amazing opportunities and they don't do them and you're like, ah, it's like you're doing a disservice to yourself. No, 100%.

Yeah, I mean, I think it's all about the balance at the end of the day. For sure, for sure, yeah. But I mean, it was super interesting talking to them about their like, I guess, modern taste and anime because I remember we had this like, yesterday, we had this like talk about ReZero, right? And they were like, to them, to a lot of their group,

it is literally no joke like a life changing anime. Like seeing your face, seeing your face, Joey says it all. Am I legally allowed to bully them now? For saying that. And I was like, so I, you know, I like reason. I mean, it's great show. Conno like three zero. I like ReZero.

And you know, I think it's like I'm a fan of ReZo. It's a good show. But seeing them talk about ReZero being like this passionately, like literally, literally, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm saying, they said it was life changing like nine times. Yeah, they said it was life changing nine times. They told me why it was life changing. They found it at a time where they needed something

where the message of ReZero and the message of Sueu's character development like really hits a lot of them. Pretending not to be someone you're not. Yeah, for sure. To be someone that you're not. I'm like, damn. Has ReZero turned into like the modern? I use this term with huge inverted comments.

The modern Ava or something like that? Because this is, them talking about ReZero reminds me about how I talked about how Ava like changed my life, man. How like seeing Shinji's story. Yeah. And seeing the end of Ava, how that like really, really affects me. I'm like, holy shit.

Like seeing these kids passionately talk about a show like ReZero, which I enjoyed. No doubt, I enjoyed. Would I call it a life-changing anime for me personally? Personally not. Yeah, yeah. It was enjoyable one, but seeing the new generation have this show that has like affected them

and in a way, shaped their personality. Right. Because it's something that has definitely shaped their personality. I'm like, damn, this is super surreal to see it. That is really fascinating. I don't know why I didn't think, I mean, again, as you, as echoing your point, Rizio is a great show. I have no qualms about that.

It's just interesting. that that's the show they picked. You know? What other modern shows you think would have that kind of same effect? See, that's the thing, I don't know. So I would always think, like, you know, again, this is coming from a biased perspective,

but like, you know, to me, I would look at that and being like, because there isn't really a modern show in my eyes personally that is like that, I would think that they would still go back to the same shows that we quote as having that kind of profound effect, right? Yeah. But it seems like now this,

this new generation has found the new generation's version of what we found were found. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And that just happened to be real zero. Well, I think because every generation, obviously every generation goes through different troubles, different worries. Oh, for sure.

Not to invalidate that or anything, of course, but, you know, Ava, even though in our eyes, it's an old anime, at the end of the day, still in 90s anime, you know, still. Yeah, there's a lot of retelling of stories as well, and newer mediums and newer things, right? It's like how many 1940s films do you watch? It's like not that much,

but then maybe the director of the film that you really liked that came out in the 90s was like, this is such a heavy inspiration. Oh, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I'm going all the way back to watch that. So you know what I mean? Like it's kind of like, we are,

we are very bad at, as like, as people as consuming media from like, not our time, I feel generally. We're quite bad at that. Yeah. So I feel like that's kind of why this always happens and why we continue to. But also, I think even more like the modern day as well,

where I think we, just because there's so much stuff coming out nowadays that it feels more than anything. It's like people, less and less people go back to the past, not just with anime, but like with movies as well. With anything, really, any kind of entertainment. Yeah, yeah. Because to me, to me, I, if I would say what I would feel like is the modern, like life-changing anime that I would have expected the modern generation to say.

Like, Talentine. I would say Mob Psycho. I would have thought Mob Psycho would have been that one, in my biased eyes to be like, this is what I think the kids would like. It would be something like Mob Psycho. I think there's, Mob Psycho is a more of like a retrospective thing when you're in a, like as an adult,

you can look back at Mob Psycho and see a lot of the things that maybe once you just found boring or uncomfortable, kind of recognize them. Like I think a bit of mob having to go through his journey of, hey, just because you have, you're special. And the one thing doesn't mean you're special in general. It's all about grinding and then, Yeah, like, Reagan is also a great character for that.

So I think that's like, it's very adult themed, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Not a lot that you can sympathize with when you're young, I think. Yeah, for sure. When you're all young and just feel it. I don't know. It's surprising.

It just makes you think. Makes you think. Yeah. Because it's weird to see like, obviously anime has gotten a lot more popular now with like the new generation. On like a different fucking level. I'm just waiting for that.

I'm just waiting for that conversation out with a kid that tells me, Jiu-Zikaisen was a life-trained. I'm like, okay, now I'm truly out of touch. It's like, say anymore, and you're getting the back of my hand. Oh my God. I'm just joking. You can like whatever you like, I don't care.

Well, that's why I think like, you know, it seems like every modern Shonen now is getting super popular, Dundadan, really popping off now. I haven't caught up with it, but apparently episode, the latest, the latest episodes have been, have been fucking- Wait, I'm caught up with an, that you're not caught up with it.

Oh, you're caught up with it on a number. Is it popping off? It's fucking popping off. Oh shit, if Joey says it is, dude, then it definitely must be. I mean, look, I love the manga, so I was, and the anime has just been so good. So, yeah, the latest episode, it's popping off.

Cinema? Absolute cinema. Peak. Oh, shit, okay. Yeah, everyone should be watching that. Fuck. All right, well, if Joey says so. Wait, so what video were you filming with the anime, man?

They're doing like a bunch of videos in Japan. It's definitely humbling, talking to them and remembering how much we grinded when we first. We showed up here, there was no infrastructure for filming anything. Like there was no, you couldn't, you know, there's no one to help you that had like experience.

But also they told me they're here for like a month. That's crazy. And they're filming something almost every day. They have filmed in that time that they've been in so far, 17 videos. And I'm like, I wish I had. I had, I wish I had 17 ideas. I remember back to our first Japan trip.

And I think all we did was drank for like two weeks straight. Yeah, we were living the absolute generative lives. We just did karaoke and ate food. We did five and karaoke like two times a week, man. Yeah, we went crazy. I was like, damn, but that's like, those are the times I look back on. I was like, yeah, that was peaked.

And then like every, and then like. That was the best time, Steve. And then after like, you know, the second week, one of us would be like, maybe we should film something. Yeah, we did film something after like two weeks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you guys came to my house. Oh yeah, we should maybe film some videos for our channels, you know? Was that the video that we filmed?

It was a quiz or it was a quiz or the anime A, B, C. Anime A to Z. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did something as well. You did the fucking. What did I do? You did the rap battles thing. Yeah.

You remember that shit? So bad. But you know, I look back at then, I'm like, because we, you know, we'd hang out and it was like, yeah, we're all YouTubers, but like, we just fucking, we, that was like not a factor. Yeah. Oh my God. So that was like, that was so much fucking fun.

Yeah. So long, 2018. But don't play it. I also think that's probably- It was only 2018, fuck. Yeah. I think stuff like that there is why I think we're such good friends now. Yeah, yeah.

You know, we hung out and did shit like that. And it was, it was never about YouTube. It was like we just wore all YouTubers and we wanted to hang out. Exactly, yeah. That was gone, three million views? How was gone not changed in six years? God looks exactly the same,

just with a beard now. Still got the turtleneck, baby. Oh my God. It's crazy, that's insane. God, that was my last last place. Did you just dab? Did you just dab? Yes, Joey.

Why am I hearing this from you, Joey? I remember coming to this house. Because Garne left his fucking camera on the train. Oh, yeah. You were to like call up the train. And then I remember I was like, oh shit, this, your place was small. Yeah, oh yeah, it was a one.

Behind that wall was like your bed. Yeah. And that was it. That was it. We were all able to fit in this place. Oh, yeah. It's fucking tiny, man. What is Sydney wearing?

Why is Sydney wearing a school uniform? I can't remember, man. That's funny as fuck. Where was this? 2018. 18 18. Yeah, 60 years ago. Yeah.

and a half years ago. Oh my Lord. Two years before the apocalypse happened. Oh my God. It feels like modern life is just, my mind segments things into like pre-2020 and post-2020. That's smart. Yeah, like when we spoke to those anime men,

they were like, oh yeah, yeah, college, we did it all online. I was like, what? I was like, oh yeah, that's right, because COVID, that's crazy. Yeah, yeah. Now, apparently they loved it. Apparently, I was been great if you didn't wanna really do college.

Yeah. I was talking to them about it. And I was like, what do you guys do and they were like, so we'd, so this wasn't even college, this was like, they were talking, telling me about their last year of high school. They would just go into like Zoom calls and for the first class, the camera would be off,

the camera would be on, then ever, then the entire class would just turn their cameras off and they'd just be gaming with each other the entire time. This generation's so good. The fucking privilege. And I'm like, damn, I wish I had that. Yeah, what the hell?

I wish I had that my final year of, oh my Lord, my final year's, I was fighting, I was fighting for my, my life like playing doodle jump under the table while the class was going on. I wouldn't even risk it. Yeah, yeah. The risk would be too great.

I was like, I need to get that PB though. Damn, it's crazy. Confidence boots every time you hang out with them though because every time, every time I've helped them. Yeah. I'll go on to dinner with them. They're like, damn, you're fitted today. What that fuck?

Why is everyone here so fitted today? I'm like, bro, that's just, I'm wearing a shirt and jeans. Is that fit for you guys? Fit it equals you're wearing clothes. That's crazy. No fucking way. They all stand up with no pants. And I'm like, damn, I'll take it.

But I guess being in Japan, you kind of, like, this is like the bare minimum. Yeah, this is like the lowest level of fashion. Yeah, it does change you though. Leave you. Just because everyone's so fucking dripped out. Yeah, yeah. For sure.

Yeah, I'm excited to get old. You're excited to get old? I can't wait. I can't wait to be old. What's the thing most looking forward to? Wait, what year is to you, is old. 40, 40, 45.

Yeah, dude, because then I can just say shit and people will be like, he's old. You know what I mean? I can't wait to get to that point. What are you gonna say? You don't know what I'm cooking. I just can't wait to be the miserable old man. Chris, I think people treat Chris like he's 50.

Because he acts 50. Yeah, I know, but he gets away with 50 year old shit. But he should. Yeah. Because he's like 34, five, six, I don't know. He's younger than you, right? Yes. Yeah, I remember, I, I remember, I,

I remember I said that to my mom. Once. You should have seen the look on a fucking face. Like, it's like telling someone that God isn't real. She's like, what do you mean? Everything I know is a lie. Because like, my mom was like, bless her heart. My mom was like, I thought Chris was like in his 40s.

He's so good at fooling everyone into thinking he's like 45. I know. The power he wields. Yeah, it's crazy. To be fair, your attitude is probably gonna be there when I can't wait. I can't wait to get there, yeah. Yeah.

I can't wait. It's gonna be so fun. Why? What is it with British men who can't wait to stay like that? I just, oh, it's so fun. See, as you get older. I just give zero fucks. You just give less of a fuck.

Right. So you're excited to get to that age where you just give less of a fuck. Do you still give a fuck right now? Yeah, no, I do. But I feel like I wanna get to that point where like, I can be like. Like nothing will phase you.

As someone's like, I don't know, I'm trying to think of an example. I can't have the time. up my head. You're answering people that like, no, I'm not doing that. With such confidence. And like, there's not even like an ounce of them

that wants to accommodate the person that you're like, you know, and obviously I do want to be consider it a nice still, but I would love to be able to be like, no, fuck off, I'm not doing that. That's just, no. Shit, I'm already like that. Shit, shit, we're getting to that age now. Yeah, God, yeah.

No, you're, no, no. We're getting there. No. No. No, I still care a little bit, you know. I think you have to care. I think you have to care when unfortunately when you're on YouTube in terms of like

how you're presenting yourself and you know what you say. That's true. That's true. And stuff like that. When I retire for YouTube, then I'm like, all right. Yeah. Although I will say I am like slowly, like year in and year out, I am slowly getting to the point where I'm giving less of a shit about what I say on the internet.

Why not, why not? Or I'm just like, you know what? I've lost this long. If I get canceled. Do you ever wanna get to that age, that's the point where you give such a zero fucks? Do you see the latest Mike Tyson clips where he just has his bare ass out

to millions of people on Netflix? You know what? I respect it. I want to get to a point where I do not give a fuck enough where I just, well, I just want to be like Chad, where like anything I do on camera, I'll just do it and I won't give it for. Wait, shit.

terrible role models. They're arse on camera. He's arguably the worst role model. You know, he's my role model. I don't know if that's getting old or if that's just Mike Tyson, but I saw that and I'm like, this is like a clip from the office,

I swear to God. No, my favorite clip is like kind of an older clip where like this kid, she's probably like, I don't know, 10 years old and she's doing an interview with Mike Tyson. I saw this on. And the tagline is like, Mike forgot that he was being interviewed by a kid

because the kid was like, so what kind of legacy do you want to leave behind? And then Mike's like, legacy is just a fact. I'll see everyone's gonna die soon. This kid's just like, mm-hmm, great answer, Mike. I bought you a gift. It's quite intense.

It's so intense. I love that clip so much. Yeah, that's what I wanna get to. On the opposite end, have you seen that, have we seen that clip of like, was it, Jaden Smith? And he's doing an interview, and he's like, damn, man, I just can't hang out with kids my age anymore, man.

They just want to like play. And I'm like, damn, can we not talk about the modern political and economic climate? I'm like, bro, what? Shut the fuck up, dude. You're like 17. Do you remember ages ago we brought up like Daniel Craig just hating James Bond?

Yeah, I find that hilarious. There was like another thing came on recently where they asked him like, what do you think about the new James Bond they picked? And he said, I don't care. I was like, man, this, I, I, like, he's been doing James Bond as long as I've been doing YouTube. And I'm, like I think at the same time,

and I feel like, it's kind of crazy, be like, I just don't give a fuck about it. Nah, just hate it. Get it out of my sight, you know? It's like, it's crazy. That's wild. Professional level hating himself. Respect it there, I suppose. I don't know, I, I, I sometimes you see like actors

who, I guess, like, form a fan perspective when you see an actor just embody this role, you're like, damn, when I was a kid, I was like, damn, they must love that thing because that thing has, they're so good at it. They're so good at it, and it's been such a big part of their life. And then you grow older and you realize,

I kind of understand when an actor, let's say, you know, let's say like Captain America or Doctor Who or someone who's like embodied these roles for a long time. If I was in their shoes, I'd be like, yeah, I'd probably want to be seen as more than just, that's as well. Yeah, of course. I mean, that's why like most like actors you see

who have been typecasted in that one thing, like nine times out of 10, after they're finished with that, they just like, yeah, I fucking hated that. You know, like Robert Patterson hated being Edward. Yeah. In Twilight, you know, he's like openly shit on it. And like Daniel Radcliffe like never taught once

to ever fucking mention Harry Potter ever. Yeah. So it's like, I get it. You know, these people want to like do stuff other than what they became known for. And it's like, yeah, I respect that. How do you feel about like music artists who feel like they want to go of,

like they want to move on to their new stuff, but their new stuff just like, I don't know, sometimes it just doesn't hear as hard as the old stuff. Oh no, of course, yeah. I mean, that's like all the time, right? Like, you know, like next week for instance, I'm gonna go see Andre 3000. Not as a rapper, but as the fucking jazz flute playing motherfucker.

And like, you know, he's like, that interview, I love that interview because, you know, he's like known as like, you know, one of the greatest like modern rappers of our, time and then one day he was just like, yeah, I got nothing else left to say, I just don't really wanna do rap.

I just wanna learn how to play this giant fucking jazz flute and just like make this like really abstract ambient stuff. And I'm like, you know what man? I kinda respect it. You wanna do something different. I think your art is not beholden to anyone. Yeah. You do whatever the fuck you want.

Fans can be disappointed, but I think it's an artist. But the real fans of that artist will stick around, you know, and we'll try to like accommodate that new shift in tone, right? Yeah. Sometimes you miss the old. I know, I know. Oh no, of course.

You miss the old county. Sometimes. I feel you. I feel you. New Kanye should have stayed in the drops, right? They should have never released New Kong. He was a doctor. Oh, man.

Yeah, no, I totally get it though. But like, that's the good thing about like, a lot of, you know, art in that instance, right? Like, especially with music, is that like, now, if you want to go, go back to the old stuff, it's very readily available to anybody and everybody. So sometimes you go to a gig and you're like,

the artist just like doesn't play, some of like their greatest hits, because obviously they're wanting to move away from it. Yeah, as a fan, I respect it, but also man, I just wanted to hear that one song. I just wanna hear the once. Just give me the adrenaline rush. Just give me the dolphins, just for that one thing, please.

I will listen to your new stuff. Yeah, but also please, come on, man. Is it once in a lifetime, like, opportunity? I don't know when I'm gonna gonna see you next if ever. Yeah, yeah, this might be like your last tour. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just play that one song.

You know the one. Can't just give me that one song please. But that's why I appreciate it when especially music artists in a live setting do understand that, even though they might be like completely sick of like their big kids. Like when I went to go see Maxim the Hornman last month,

I was like, there's a lot of songs to choose from and they might play like a bunch of their newest stuff, which is still good. But I speak on behalf of, you know, everyone, They wanna hear the death note opening. We wanna hear the death note stuff. Yeah. And luckily the last two tracks they did

was the two death note songs. Oh, and I was just like, you know what? That's fan service. That's the kind of fan service we all respect. Yeah, I mean, there's no, there's nothing bad about rewarding your fans. No, they play some of the new stuff that like, you know, I'm sure there was a lot of people

in that crowd who had like, maybe not as big into it or maybe they hadn't heard it. I loved all of it, but I was just like, when that death note opening came on, I was just like, oh, let's fucking go! It was the most, Type, yeah. All right, well, with that out of the way,

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