Trash Taste Podcast - We Defended the Hottest Takes of All Time | Trash Taste #312

Episode Date: June 12, 2026

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All of us. We're known for having possibly the worst takes of any podcast in history. Without a doubt. Basically, the game works very simply. a take will be revealed to us, and we shall say if we agree or disagree, and then we discuss. Yeah, so we've had many hot takes on trash tastes, and this is more general, like, hot takes that are known to the public. These are, these are according to Alex, our producer, the Normy Hot Takes. The Normy Hot Takes. The Normy Hot Takes.

Because how he got these takes was, apparently there is a card game called Hot Takes. where it's like, I guess it's like a cause against humanity equivalent. Yeah. Or some kind of bullshit ass like, you know, card game. Well, hopefully these are fucking curated. Yeah. And yeah, so these are these are, so these are like the normy ones because, you know. Yeah.

And if there's anything that just doesn't hit, maybe we can just skip it. Yeah, we'll just skip it. All right. They could all be ass. None of them could be ass. We'll never know. Pirating a board game is cringe. I'll tell you.

Yeah. Bro painstakingly had to scan in each card. so that we can get it up on this fucking PowerPoint. Oh, shit, okay. Did he actually? Yeah. He bought the game and then scanned the cards in. What?

So shout out, Alex. All right, let's see if we, let's, let's see these normally hot takes. Yes. What the fuck? Dairy is bad for you. Okay, let's know. Should we start that? Sure, why not?

Dairy is bad for you? Let's discuss. Why is that a hot take? I don't know why this is a hot take. This is like an LA thing that I scared of, The scared of milk? That doesn't sound like a nut to me. Dairy is bad for you?

So is it just agree or disagree? Like we don't have a neutral, right? No. Okay. So we have to lean to one side of the other. Yeah, we do not have a neutral side. Okay, I'll fucking pick a side then. God damn it.

All right. Three, two, one, agree. Disagree. Yeah, why? You're just playing devil's advocate. You don't believe that. I don't fuck anything you're about to say. You don't believe this.

You don't believe it. You don't believe it. Shut the fuck up. I think dairy is bad. Explain yourself. There's many reasons. As such as. Nobody talks enough about global warming on this podcast.

The methane produced from cows is astronomical. Yeah. What does that have to do with the dairy? Well, dairy is one aspect of meat production. Sure. And I think that, um, call me crazy. I think it's bad that we're heating the earth. Okay. Okay. So then do you agree that meat is bad for you as well?

I don't go that far now. Come on, right? Case dismissed. I mean, look, yeah. I mean, look, it isn't saying the efficacy of it. So let me be real with you for a second here. I will say, even though I would disagree, I will say too much dairy is bad for you. Too much anything is bad for you, Joe. Too much water is bad for you. You can know you can die from drinking too much water. Am I going to do it? No. I'm going to do it? No. I, too sure. I think that we have been lied to because big milk has been, you know, telling us that we need to drink more milk.

Did you also watch the Johnny Harris video? I have an education outside of Johnny Harris. In the UK, they still give, at least in Wales, they still give like free milk vouchers. When you're in school. Bring milk vouchers? What is this, the 1700s? Yes, bro. We've none which has changed.

It's the same seasoning. Yes, you still get milk. Like, for free. They keep giving you milk. And it's like, bro, you don't need milk. I hate milk though. You need a fucking almond soy boy latte. You hate milk?

Yeah, I don't like milk. What do you like milk? What do you like? That's not milk. I mean like milk milk, the liquid's form of milk, normal milk. How often do you, why does you agree with it? How often drew, that's not dairy. Dairy is like milk, cheese, mainly cheese.

I love cheese. Cheese objectively is bad for you. Cheese is very bad for you. Butter, you know? Butter is also bad for you. Lovely. Oh, fucking butter, isn't it? But it's bad for you.

But it was, you know what a fact I heard? Tell that Michelin chefs. Okay, Michelin chefs. They say, oh, whoa, just add a little bit of butter, and it's like a fucking, they add a like a tub of flogers. Two shots of vodka. Did you know that I actually didn't know this? Did you know, like, there's like in the same amount of like,

I guess, I don't know what the word is for this, but basically there's more energy and butter than oil. Oh, sick. There's more energy in butter than oil. Like if you could run a car theoretically on butter, it would take way less butter. It would oil. First of all, I don't know why you'd ever do that. But imagine.

How do you like quantify that? Like what's the unit? It's like calories. Right. So you're saying that butter has more calories in it than milk? Oh no, oil. Oil. Yeah.

I mean, butter is milk. I believe that. It's a. Like if you could burn butter. Yeah. in a beautifully clean way. Well, it's more fat, right? Well, I mean, it's like insanely condensed, like, fat in an energy.

Yeah, yeah. It's a lot. But, like, the thing we eat is like, we should be eating oil. So, like, how often, we're talking about milk, you guys are clowning. I mean, how often do you drink milk? Never. So, I mean, I drink it with my coffee. No, no, no, no, no.

Like, just, you ask me how often do I drink milk? He'd be a great politician. Yeah. He was my son. Cereal. Okay, so. You didn't cereal in 2026? Yeah, in the middle of the night sometimes.

That's crazy. Midnight snack? Serial 2026? Kind of goes hard. When was the last time you boys just had a pure glass of milk? Just pure milk. Pure milk. You know when you go on a continental breakfast somewhere and something they just give you the glass of milk?

And it looks so good. Yeah. You're like, maybe my milk guy. And you try it. You're like, I don't see. Really remember. If the take was milk is bad for you, I'll be like, all right, get rid of milk. I don't care. But I love milk products.

You know, milk products are great. I always think when someone means dairy, they're mostly meaning milk. Is that like a me thing? That is a you thing. Really? Yeah. Well, you can, it can be, well, I think of like ice cream, milk shakes. Oh, ice cream is included. Sorry. I agree with this. Yeah. It's literally like cheese, butter, ice cream, anything with. Well, I mean, ice cream is technically bad for you if we're using that argument.

You know, we love it. It doesn't mean that it's not bad for you. Too much ice cream is bad for you, you know? It's one scoop of ice cream never hurt anyone. I say to myself every time I order one. Yeah, that's like saying like, oh yeah, one drunk sig is not going to kill me. Oh, it works. Exactly.

Still bad for you, though. Look, if the French can get away with drinking one glass of wine a day and saying that's good for you, then I can get away with saying one scoop of wine. of ice cream a day is not going to kill you. Yeah, but no one believes the French. There's probably health benefits from it, let's be honest, you know. Yeah, if you, there's just milk. I think if you had no other sugar at all in the day, it's probably fine.

Yeah, exactly, exactly. Sure. So there, there you go. Ice cream's good for you. Do you think eating a loaf of bread a day is bad for you? Probably. One loaf? I disagree.

How big of a loaf are we talking? A normal-sized loaf. Like, yeah. How'd you go through a loaf of bread a day? That's a lot of fucking great. How isn't everyone doing this? understand. Because when I, when I eat the bread, I can't stop. P-O-V, you're 13th century.

I don't know why you're laughing at me. I am serious. Just something really funny. I don't think that's normal. Just something really funny about you sitting in your room just eating a loaf of bread. I, so I go to the bakery and I buy a loaf of bread. It's like 800 yen, which also is crazy, by the way, it's 800 yen. It's like a fancy bakery. But they make an absolute immaculate shock upon, which I think is like the world. How big of a loaf are we talking? Um, it's like this. Okay.

Okay. Decent. It's like a, you know, like I could house it. It's probably like a thousand calories. Hmm. So you eat that every single day. Yeah. What do you eat it with?

Um, sometimes just on its own. That's actually. Do you have lunch as well? Yeah, yeah, lunch as well. And, uh, wait. Wait, hold up. You snack on just an entire loaf of bread. You don't.

That's correct. I'm not lying. No one fucking does that. I'm not lying. Okay, I've been doing this maybe for the past month. You've been doing this for the past month? How often? Maybe like five times away.

Fuck off, you are not. You are not. I am doing. Nobody does this. I think even the Germans watching this are being like, that's a bit... That's too much. I don't like, but I don't like it with butter or anything.

I just want the bread. Okay. Because they baked it fresh that day. Uh-huh. Wow, that's a lot of calories. Well, it's about a thousand like I thought. Yeah. So.

No wonder you need the psychathon. Yeah. I need the cycle. So I get the bread and then I'll cut up half. Yeah. Has still crows like not even like slices. And then I'll have that. Yeah.

Like sometimes with lunch, sometimes after lunch. And then after. Nobody does this. You can't fool me. No one does this. You have. To be like a psychopath. After dinner, after dinner, I will eat the remaining half during the evening.

I'm fucking crazy. You eat bread, you eat a loaf of bread for dessert. Yes, my dessert. You finish your big lunchy, like, all right, time for a quick snack. You are so full of shit. Let me just get out the loaf of bread. I am embarrassed that you think this is alive. I am shocked that this isn't alive.

This is the truth. So I do this because the bread is so yummy. No, I get that. No, I get that. I love bread as much to the next guy. But I don't, I don't, sometimes I might just toast it, but no, no butter, just the bread. Yeah. Just toast.

I don't. You raw dog toast. Have you ever had it? It's so good. No. When the bread is good, it's amazing. Because I like flavor. No, no, no.

When the bread is good, you don't need it. No toppings, no nothing. Nothing. Nothing. I just want the bread. It's raw? It's not raw. It's cooked.

He raw dogs bread. It's baked. It's good. No, trust me. The bread is so good. You don't need anything else. Okay. All right.

That's great. But it's great because if I have like a soup or something or I have, which I don't. I don't. I just, I lied. But if you have like a meat dish and there's like, like, you know, it's like, you know, meat flavor juices that come with it. Sure. I'll clean it up with it.

I get that. That's normal. Raw do that. You have, you have the curry. Because I feel like, when I do that with the bread, I feel like, honestly, it gets in the way of the bread. Because the flavor of the meat is getting in the way. And I want to taste the bread. taste of bread. Now, I'm just,

I'm more still in shock that it's just you raw dog a loaf of bread as a snack. Yeah. Not even as a meal. If they sold it at the theater, I would buy it. Like, they sold loaves of bread for your movie. No wonder he loves popcorn. He's just a grain theme.

Like anything, any grain, it would just be like, give me that. Admittedly, it sometimes is bad as well because the baker go to, they have like donuts and things. Yeah. I might get the loaf of bread and like a donut. Right. Brother. I mean, brother, what is, what is going? I think I'm eating like 4,000 calories a day. Are you good, brother? How are you not like 300 pounds? Yeah. I work out a lot. Yeah, well, if you need to. Yeah. That's the great balance. Maybe I'm like, all right. A 1600s bodybuilder. How many, how many, how many days in a week,

do you guys think you're in a category deficits? Like zero. I try. Zero. Zero. God. Genuinely zero. I mean, I'm trying to go like at least half the week. Okay.

Yeah. But I'm also looking after my weight this year. So I'm not eating a fucking loaf of bread today. I'm just trying to like vibe. You're just trying to vibe. You're trying to vibe with your raw dog bread. I'm trying to eat a lot, but I'm trying to work out a lot to help mitigate. Sure.

You know, but it's like 9% diet, right? It's 99%. Yeah. But I liked that part the most. Well, you clearly don't because you raw dog bread. But that's my favorite thing to do. If you had to lose weight, if you had to get on a calorie deficit. Right. Only one loaf a day. That's it.

What's the thing you're cutting? You have your choice between your loaf of bread and cutting out lunch. How much doesn't take for you to cut out that loaf of bread? Which one are you cutting out? A lunch? I would just walk five bombers after. No. No.

While eating the loaf of bread. Oh my God. All right. Well, I've been doing a lot of swimming lately. Okay. That is, but I'll swim like two kilometers. You swim? Yeah. Where are?

Like a gym? Public pool. Oh, public pool, really? Oh, nice. There's a couple of big ones in Tokyo. Oh, sick. And yeah, I've been doing like 2K swims. Hell yeah.

I don't know how many calories it burns. I think it's a lot. Probably a lot. Yeah, because that's like a full body workout. Yeah, because I'm like, damn, when I walk 2K, I feel tired, but swimming is way harder. Yeah. How much is it's, how much is to, how much is to, how much do it burn when you? when you swim 2K.

I mean, I guess it depends on how fast you're going as well. Yeah. I normally do it. Yeah, there you go. 4,800 calories. That's too much. Stroke intensity. Yeah.

Normally do it in like... Okay, so let's say 500 calories. Yeah. Normally do it in around 50 minutes to an hour. Okay. Okay. depends off how shit I feel. Yeah, so 500 calories in an hour.

That's a pretty good workout. Yeah, that's pretty decent. Yeah. Not as much of a loaf of bread. That probably cut like, what, half the loaf? Yeah. That's crazy. It's so depressing.

I never thought about it like that. Maybe you should. But I still have lunch too. Yeah. So I went swimming with, also. I'm very jealous of your metabolism. I also. I went swimming with Manu.

And we swam. And then we went to this cafe. You know, I ordered the tuna melt. I was like, great. Naturally. Just undid all the work I did. Yeah. And in Manu, this mad lad,

on the side of it, he ordered also a croissant and a yogurt. And then I was like, damn, you're a fat. And then I tried this croissant. I was like, I'm going to get a croissant too. And I was like, I'm having a croissant with a side of tuna melt. Yeah, that's pretty psychotic. And a yogurt. Oh, the yogurt was good, though.

I'm happy with my salad, you know. That's, that's good. That's good. You must be in a calorie deficit like every fucking day. I'd say like half days. Yeah, that's crazy. I'm either like. At least on trash days days, you're eating like, I only see eating maybe like 300 calories.

If I can't, I had this mental breakthrough. where I'm like, if I can't enjoy the meal to the fullest, then it's not worth it. It's not worth it. Like, what's, what's, for me, I enjoy every meal to the fullest. No, what's crazy to me is you tell me that you had fried chicken on the day you stream, and I'm like, that's fuck, that's crazy, bro. When, when I'm live streaming, the one thing I hate is people watching me eat,

and there's no way, like, my enjoyment of food goes down, like, by half. Well, do you remember Connor and I used to frequent, like, fat curries before an off of that stream? I don't know how you guys did that. Because it's delicious. I know, I've, it's made me appreciate when I have a good meal, like, even more. Because I'm like, thank you, God, for allowing me to enjoy this meal. And I'm going to enjoy this to the fullest. And if I'm not, I'm just like, ah, just give the slot bowl to me.

Just give me a healthy slot bowl. Is that why you like, like a course meal? You like the duration of the meal to extend? Uh, it's, uh, because to me, getting like a nice coarse meal, uh, even if it's just like, It's just the act of going out and just getting to chat with the people that you're with. You like the activity. I like the activity. Sure.

I love a fucking three-hour meal. You love a three-hour meal. Yeah, bro. I love a meal. I don't like a long meal to be a lot. I just wanted to go on forever. I don't. Because I love talking.

I love drinking. I love eating bread. Yeah, we know. We know, bro. Like, to me, like my favorite, you know, Japanese cuisine experience is probably like, tepaniaki just because a lot of you just get to sit down at a counter. But I always leave hungry. You do?

Yeah. Bring a loaf of bread next time. If only did it in tepaniagi with a side of bread. No, because, you know, they must not do you mind? I agree. It is probably the best experience, like, course-wise you can have. Yeah. Yeah.

But I often find that, like, they don't give you enough. I like a good yucky-neiku course. No, yeah. Did you know why? Because you're comparing it to having a normal dinner and also a loaf of bread on top of that. Yeah. Because I, I'm always just fucking, I come out like fucking full after a tepaniaki. Well, also, your stomach is probably a lot smaller because he's eating 4,000 calories a day.

Yeah. And also like, when you get like the, you know, they'll be like, this is the steak course. Yeah. And then you're like, wow. And they bring up the steak. And they chop it in a little cube. And you get like three cubes. Sure.

But then you get the garlic rice. You're like, okay. Yeah, the garlic rice is always, there's always the killer. Fine, you got me. And then you're like, do you have triple this size? I'm looking for American size. Musta run a back. Yeah.

So anyway, that was a very long-winded dairy is bad for you take. Let's go to number three. Number three, playing too many video games will make you dumber. Okay. Okay. Start your alienware journey with the streamlined Alienware 15. We designed this machine to refine the assign the assigneeer. Essentials, creating a more focused gaming laptop for players who demand quality without the clutter.

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distilled into one iconic machine. Visit alienware.ca slash alienware 15 today. Again, these are always so hard because it's like it depends on the nuance. Yeah. Is my kid playing corner tree or Roblox? Exactly. Exactly. All right, three, two, one.

Agree. Oh, I disagree. I mean, look, The act of playing a video game does not make you dumber. I think what it does do is take all your time and you have no time to do anything else and become a more holistic person. Yes. Yes.

Yes. You limit yourself to the knowledge that you could be gaining during that time. Yes. But I disagree with it making you dumber because, like, as you said, it completely depends on the game you're playing because there's like a lot of games

that can teach you like motor sensory skills or like, you know, hand-eye coordination. You know, maybe like if you're playing, I don't know. FPS is make you dumber, I think. As a counterpoint, as a counterpoint, Joey. Yes. Have you met the average Twitch streamer? Yeah, but not all Twitch streamers are gamers.

So, you know, I mean, I was, if anything, I would say gamers on Twitch are a dying brief. As, I don't think so. I think there's a healthy community of, I'm looking at one right now. Yeah, I know one. But as someone who has dabbled in the gaming sphere on top, which, sure. I can undoubtedly say after like a full working week of streaming and mostly playing video games, I definitely come out dama. There is no way that I come out a more balanced person. Maybe I'm saying this because I'm not a gamer. You're also playing Gatcha games. Yeah, that is true. No. No. You're like, what numbers do you know, guys? My pin.

Why am I feeling dumb about looking at all these P and Gs I paid for? Crazy. All right, games that give you... Games that give you something useful to work with. Brain training, D.S. Who the fuck is playing that? I played the fuck out of that when it came out. Every day. Oh, yeah, me.

We fit. We sports. Ring fit. Yeah. Okay, okay. Are you running that hour every day? Yeah. I have the world record on it.

Who asked? Most calories burn on ring fit. It's like you play for how long? That's insane. Wow. Wow. You had to burn all those bread calories. 10 hours, I think it took to get there.

10 hours? To max out the calorie counter. In breads. How much is that? In breads? We're talking one bread. One bread. One and a half on a junior estate.

One bread. One bread. But that was also bullshit because ring fit. Yeah. Like, because they wanted to be conservative. Because they didn't want to be woke. No, I'm joking. They, no, they, no, they didn't want to, like, lie to you.

So they were, like, very, very harsh. with the calorie counter. Yeah, yeah. They usually are. Yeah. So, like, doing a squat, like, 10 sets of squats would get you, like, three calories. Which is like, I mean, maybe the act of doing it, but the muscle recovery is certainly more. So, yeah.

Maybe they took in their account as well that people can figure it out and you can just, like, cheese it as well. Yeah, yeah. So, anyway, that's bullshit. Anyway. But I think, like, like, playing like a game like Fortnite or Roblox, like these games that you just repetitively do the same thing or do these other stimulating things. I don't think they offer anything. Like I think at least when you play a game that has a story, I know it sounds so stupid.

There's at least something to analyze, something to think about that allows you to experience something. Yeah. Which I don't think makes you dumber, but I don't think it takes away from you at all. Yeah, because it depends on like, again, what kind of video games you're playing. And also, like, as you said, like, how are you consuming it as the person playing the video game? Because like this, it's such a broad term to be like, because, you know, the same thing you say like, oh, is watching too many movies make you dumber or like watching too much

anime make you dumb? Yes to that one. But like, but like, it's, it depends on like, yeah, how you're consuming it. Yeah. If you're mindlessly just playing Roblox for 10 hours a day, yeah, probably make you a bit dumb. I don't think they, you know, dumber as a word here, we're saying like you are now, you are no longer intelligent if you play games. Yeah. I think like, No. Your capacity to just learn beyond what you already know is limited. Just balance it out a bit, you know. Yeah. I mean, my serious answer would be all media can teach you something if you approach it the right way. Yeah. And media can widen your horizons.

But also playing too many video games and you're getting nothing out of it can definitely make you dumber as well. For sure. I can tell you that, man. I feel like what have you gotten anything out of your? 60 hours of Slay the Spire so far? Yeah. Yeah. Problem solving. Tell me a problem solving.

What problems have you solved? Uh, Sension 6. Bye. There are a lot of hard things to do in that game gone. I don't think you get into credit. Yeah. You clown on gatcha games, but I, you know, I had to learn like optimization and building factories and gone nights.

He used to be on being on time, clocking in daily, showing up, showing up with the responsibility. You know, schedule management. Schedule management, time management. Time management. You know, most importantly, most importantly, you trial by fire, you know, you learn money management. Finance. Accounting, how to claim water's taxes. Probability.

Bankruptcy, filing. Statistics, probability. You know, that's all baked into the Gatcha game, mechanics. Handouts. You know, learning the system. How to get on food stamps sufficiently. How do I far, far, get on.

There's a lot of, there's a lot of life skills. Yeah, I guess there are a lot more real life impact. Yeah. That I wasn't, that I wasn't taking into a cat. I apologize. It's all how you approach it. I apologize. I don't familiar the game.

All right, what's the next one? All right. Cats are smarter than dogs. Sure. Cats are smarter than dogs? Sure, let's do it. Okay. Um, okay.

Three, two, one. Agree. Disagree. Really? Cats are fucking conniving little shit. Like they definitely, like, you know those compilations of like, oh, my pet definitely knows what I'm saying kind of thing and most of the time it's just dogs?

Yeah. That's just because dogs I feel are just, they want to be more reciprocative towards their owners, right? Like, they want the attention. Yeah. Cats definitely also understand their owners, but they just don't give a fuck. For the record,

but to audio listeners, Joe put agree with me and gone, but disagree. Yes. Yep. I think dogs are smart because they're cool. Dogs are definitely smart and they're definitely cool, I agree.

You're smarter than cats? You think so? Yeah, because they learn the value of teamwork. Yeah, but I also do think that dogs are a lot more prone to be conditioned than cats. You can teach a dog to be smart, but I think cats are just smart

in and of themselves. I think cats are smart because they're dumb. Explain. You can't just say words, Conn, just because we're on a podcast. You legit sound like AI just now, like a bad AI prompt. I think cats are smart because they're dumb. Explain.

Why are cats so stupid that they didn't accept our help? What do you mean? We could help them so much. They don't need our help. But they're so dumb for that because we could fix them. No, no, no. That's the human like overestimate or underestimating the cat. I don't think cats need our fucking help because they're just like, we don't need you.

We're good. It's literally that idea of like, you know, there's that famous meme of like, you know, every time you feed a dog, the dog goes, oh my God, he feeds me, he takes care of me, they must be a God. Meanwhile, you do the same thing to a cat and they go, oh my God, they feed me, they take care of me, I must be a God. That's the difference between cats and dogs. They're so up themselves and they know they're better than you, but they play fucking innocent because they know they're cute. That's pretty smart, if you ask me. It's conniving. I don't know.

Have you seen those compilations of cats are knocking over shit while looking dead in your fucking. You've seen dogs two fucking sick tricks for treats? Yeah, for trees, exactly. Yeah, they know that they... They're more conditioned. They can work a job. Yeah. You ever see someone walk a cat?

Doesn't happen. Yeah. Yeah, they do. Yeah, you can. You can walk cats. Yeah, I know. Definitely. I know you can.

Yeah, it's just the cats. But have you ever seen one? No, because cats are like, fuck off. Don't touch me. I'm like, it's like finding the unicorn. Like, I know people walk cats. I know it exists. But have you ever seen one?

No. Because cats are like, the instinct for me is to not be put on the fucking leash. I don't think it's smart to just survive. Every animal does that. You know, every animal survives. That's all cats are doing. There's like basic bitch autopilot. Dogs are like, hey, how can I make life interesting and fulfilling?

I think that's really smart. Because they have, they must have like an ego. There's some of those hierarchies of needs. Treats, pets. Yeah. Being a fucking cool friend to my owner. Sure. Hanging out with people.

Sure. Like they get it. Cats don't get it this. It's all about me, me, me, me. Cats do get it. They just don't fucking bother showing it to you because they don't care about you. As someone who has owned both cats and dogs, I can say that cats are way smarter than people think they are.

And like, you know, I'm not saying dogs aren't smart. Dogs are incredibly smart. But I think cats are more conniving and they more, they understand the situation better and they play you like a fiddle. Who's smarter cats or rats? I don't know. I've never owned a rat. I just wanted to know where you stood on that.

Probably cats. Really? Yeah, maybe. Have you seen Rattitude? Have you seen Rattitude? But have you seen the musical cast? Have you seen AirBard? He can play basketball, my friend.

Who the fuck's AirBond? Who is AirBot? LeBron James at the dog world. Who? Who the fuck is AirBot? I don't actually know. Thank you. There's a whole series of movies of a dog that plays basketball.

Oh, this guy. Okay, okay, I've never seen the movies. It's a gold retriever that plays ball. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've never seen the movies. This is the most Disney Channel-out movie. Oh, my God, it is Disney Channel. It's Disney Channel.

I was like, oh, he plays baseball as well? He plays all, and he went to space in one of them. They can literally do anything. Cats? Do you watch that movie Cats versus Dogs? Yeah, I did. I remember that. I don't know the movie.

Who wins it? I think that should be the decider here. What is the movie? I don't even know. I remember this movie. Yeah, Cats for, What the fuck is this movie? Yeah.

What the hell is this? I'm dead as never seen this one. This is like 5.2 on IRD. Hey, this one's a classic. 2,001. Yeah. Who won in the movie Cats and Dogs? Can you Google that, Nabi?

Wasn't the Cats the Bad Guys in that movie? Yeah, they were. Yeah, because they conniving. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. I'm not disagreeing on that. If they were smart, why wouldn't they went? The dogs won.

Sorry, the dogs won. Because people like dogs more. Oh, that is bullshit. People like cats more. Actually, let's Google this. Yeah, who, yeah. Who, how many cat people are in the world? Here's my theory.

When the world is in a better place, people like dogs more. Oh, absolutely. When the world is in a more depressed place, people like cats more. I agree. Dogs people significantly outnumber cat people globally. All right, sorry, Joe. You've got mulled. You're being mulled.

Oh, yeah, because that proved my point. Absolutely. Totally. Dogs are the most common pet in many countries, including the US, Australia and Canada. That makes sense. Interesting, interesting. Yeah, 55.9% of the US people are dog owners?

Wait, is that right? Really? 74% of pet owners are dog owners. Oh, okay, okay, okay. While 47% of cats. Interestingly, it says, while dog people may have more friends on social media, cat people are often found to be more emotionally expressive online. That makes sense. Why does that make sense? I don't know. I just feel like

maybe, I don't know if it's linked. Oh, actually, no, it says there dog people are often described as more extroverted, whereas cat people tend to be more introverted. Yeah. When you say you're a cat person, what's what's the personality type that you imagine? Yeah. Yeah, introverted. Someone a little introverted, someone a little like, easily overstimulated. Yeah. There you go. Which I've, which I've learned that, that phrase recently. What? People keep talking about being overstimulated. Overstimulated.

Do you just learn that word? Well, no, I know about it. I mean, like, the etymology of it being used online. What do you mean? Like, you know how, like, some words, obviously have the same meaning, but then to become popularized words online and kind of lose a bit of the meaning, like POV. Like, POV is a word that was used for a very long time and just meant your point of view.

Yeah. Because it's been used so much online, it gets warped into just not being POV. Yeah. What do you mean? What is the POV now? Because now POV is just literally... It's just like, you are this person. They just like literally just film anything now.

Yeah. And they're like, POV. And it won't be from POV. Oh, yeah. You know, because the online does that where they like take words, kind of keep kind of the rough meaning, but like warp it.

It's basically become the modern day, my face, when. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I guess so. Like, the online does this to words. Yeah, yeah. So what's, how is overstimulated change? Because it's being like,

it's in like the social media vocab and being used for just anything. Like what? Like what? I don't know. I sort of sort of on a bunch of Instagram shit. Don't ask me, bro. I'm not fucking...

Yeah, I'm clearly not online enough. How many other meanings can there be for overstimulated? Has overstimulated become the new buzzword? Yeah, I mean, not like... Not like it lost the meaning, but like it just gets used a bunch. Or you mean like slop? Yeah, kind of, kind of. Yeah.

I think I'm very bad at explaining this. I apologize. More people are being diagnosed with neurodivergency. I've never felt... like I've ever been overstimulated. I have. What do you mean by that? What do I mean by that? Is there to a shit going on?

Um, I get overstimulated every time I go to Archibor. Every time I go shopping, man. Oh, there's just too much going on. There is just too much going on and mentally, mentally you just get fatigued, I guess, and you just like... Starts becoming like white noise. Yeah, it's like, ooh, this is a lot. Like, AX when we're shoulder to shoulder, I feel that.

Yeah, yeah. Conventions for sure I get overstimulated. Where I'm just like, okay, I just need to like, get out of this space right here. There's just a lot of... Too much going on. There's just too many things right now. And I need to just be in a comfortable place. I need to draw back the rent distance, you know?

My point was is that I think I've seen this word a lot online lately. And a lot of people, I feel like that is very cat energy to be easily over-stimulated. Well, yeah, because I think it's linked to being a little more introverted. Right. Because cats tend to be as creatures more introverted. But then why are they more emotionally expressive? online. Because they're introverted. Because they're introverted. Because that's the only place that they can emotionally express themselves. When I hear a dog person, it's always just like, all right,

likes to go out for walks, says hi to neighbors. Yeah. You know, I always enjoys the son. I always say hi to my neighbors. That's why you're a dog person. Yeah. I think my neighbors panic when I do though. Well, they cat people. You'll live you next to a cat person. I'm trying my best. Yeah. Actually, I'm curious. Does Japan have more cat owners or dog owners. Surely. I'm going to guess more cat owners. Let's have a look.

Let's have a look at the stats. A lot of dogs, though. Yeah, there is a lot of dogs. Let's see. Japan is more cat owners. What a shocker. You know what? Checks out.

Check out. Personality checks out. Like a 40% more. Yeah. It's not even, like it's not even close. Damn. That makes so much sense, though.

Yeah. All right, we figured out the secret between cat people and dog people. I mean, I think the other reason for that is because dogs make way more noise than cats. And so, you know, I think a lot of Japanese people who...

No, Joey, let's just interpret the data the way I want to interpret it. Yeah, they just hate people, you're right. Yeah, no, yeah. Javis people are like, fuck people. I want cats. Well, I mean, in Japan specifically, I think people treat dogs as kids where cats are seen as more of dwelling companions. Right.

Like a lot of people, when you see them have dogs, they're in a stroller, they, they pamp them up, you know, pictures. By the way, can I just say that annoys me to no fucking end? I hate it. When I see people pushing dogs and strollers, I'm like, make the fuck a walk. That's what he was born to do. And all when it's like summer and they dress them up and like puffer jackets. Oh my God.

I hate that shit. You're torturing this poor fucking thing. Stop it. Stop doing that to your animal. Please. They hate it. Japan now has more pets than children. That's not surprising either.

I mean, the pet industry must be going crazy right now with how little people are having children. You definitely see like, and you can tell that a lot of people have the pet, like the dog. like the dog specifically as a replacement for a kid. Yes. You can deal. Absolutely. I'm like, I don't go fuck if people want to do it.

Yeah. I mean, you just say, you know, I'm not like one of those weirdos like, women need to breed more. We need to breathe. We don't breathe like we used to.

You know, I'm not trying to get on that. I'm just saying like, don't put the fucking, yeah, don't put the fucking thing in a pram. Yeah, exactly.

It's fine. They can touch the ground at least once. Women need to breed more, though. I need to help them. Sounds like your average fucking... We need my bald, baby. All right.

Next one. $100 is a lot of money. Fine. I'll take the bait. Uh... $100 is a lot of money. Ready? Three, two, one.

Disagree. Disagree. I agree. All right, Joey. All right, all right, Joey. Man of the people. All right, Joey. Tell me, this question is bade because it doesn't matter what we would have answered.

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He's a guy who gave all his money away. I was like, I need no possessions. I don't know what you're talking about? I just want to insult Joey. Diogenes. Is it diogenes? Is it diogenes? is it might be diogenes.

I was going to say dowgenees, but I don't know. I don't know. I know Diogenes gave away all his possessions and the only thing he had was like a bowl. A bowl. Was that Diogenes? Yeah, to eat out of. I always thought it was a different guy.

And then he saw something eating with that. You fucking Diogenes. Fuck, I should have locked in. That's what I thought it was. Fuck. Sorry, we got there in the end. So wait, Diogenes gave away all of his possessions and what left himself.

Renounce all material possessions to live in extreme. ascetic life, often in a large storage jar. Inspired by observing dog's contentment. Oh, there you go. He was a dog person. Yeah, based. Very extraverted. So, yeah, I mean, look, let's be honest. Okay, obviously, this is not accounting for, you know, if you don't live in, you know, one of the countries that we're from or live in.

Sure. Yeah. Like, obviously, if I go to, I don't know, what's, I'm just going to name a poor country. What's one of those poor countries? You know, obviously, if you go to, you know, a third world country, yeah, it's a lot more. But I think the term now is developing country, Connor. You can't say third world? Oh, no. Let's take it that away from me now. Fuck, dude.

This thing about sucks by getting old is that you just like locked in these words. Yeah. You're like, that's my word. Yeah. That's my word for this. Yeah. And then they tell you like, no, that's not cool anymore. We can't.

I get the boomers now. I get it. It is annoying. We are the boomers, Connor. It's annoying learning. all these new words. We can't put them on a numerical scale anymore. Yeah. It needs to be more roundabout. Um, okay. Well, okay, so you go to a developing country. Yeah, obviously, obviously like the argument is different. So let's just say that for this point,

for the sake of this argument, sure, Japan, UK, yeah, all the stuff. Yeah. Um, although Japan, honestly. Uh, Japan, the yen is, uh, yeah, yeah, it's fucking, um, yeah. Um, yeah, I mean, if we're talking like, can you have a day out? Yeah. Absolutely. Can you do anything meaningful, uh, in terms of, like, fixing, fixing. your life? No. Like what? What can you do with $100? What can you do with $100? As you said, you can, in Japan at least, you can have a fucking full day out.

You can easily provide a meal for like more than multiple people throughout the full day. You can travel pretty much most places. No. Yeah. On a Shinkansen, you can, you can spend $100 on a shinkansen and you can go all the way to like Kyoto. Easily. Oh, not anymore because it's getting more expensive. It's very expensive. now.

And then you got nothing to do. You got no money. You got no money. How are you getting back? Walk it. Hitchhiking. There's just not a lot you can do. Cost of living is pretty bad right now.

It is bad. $100 is a lot of money in terms of wage. You know, I know wages can be pretty shit and you busts your ass for $100. But damned is $100 not a lot in the modern day and age in the modern cost of living crisis and the modern housing crisis as well. Yeah. You're not going to be able to save anything.

Every, every, like, hobby as well has gone up drastically in price. Yeah. 100 money. Let's see if you're like gaming. You can't buy shit with $100. Yeah. $100? Yeah.

If you're, in America, $100? You can get like a Steam sale, sure, but yeah. You play a Gatcha game. Good luck, buddy. You don't get two poles. How many Uber's, how many Uber eats is like $100 in? In Japan? No, in America.

Like one and a half? Yeah, right. Two or three maybe. It turns what you're getting. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. That's true. On average, maybe like, yeah, too.

Yeah. But like lunch, when if I order, like, also insane, by the way, because I'm ordering a private taxi for a sandwich. It's like 40 bucks. It should be expensive. It should be expensive. But like, you know, going out for a meal in a lot of places, you know, it's expensive. But, you know, we're already now we're limiting it to going out for a meal.

Yeah, right. You know, going to the theater. Yeah. You know, my, my, my, I remember my electrical bill went up like, 40, fuck, percent. Really? Yeah. Damn.

Crazy. I was like, damn, bitch. I thought she was supposed to be cheap. Well, Japan now is getting like to that point now where it's, I don't think can be considered cheap.

My gym membership was like, uh, Hassan a month. It's like 50 bucks. Damn, bro. Yeah. Anytime fitness was a fucking skin. When we started going,

it was like docksy. I know. Yeah. Keep rising it. That's crazy. Like, at $100, you can barely do shit nowadays with. Yeah.

Petrol now is really bad as well. I wouldn't scoff at $100. Yeah. I wouldn't be like, take it. peasant. But like, to pretend like you can do a lot with it now is, you know, it's a tragic state of the world.

Yes. Again, in developed countries, you know, it's especially going whenever I travel back to the U.S. and the UK, I'm like, holy shit, things have gotten expensive. Definitely. And people are still getting paid the same. That's, that's insane. Yeah. This one is completely dependent on who you are.

Yeah. And where you are. Yeah. And it's also like, if I was a viewer who had no money, I would say, yeah, this is a lot. Totally. But if you got like fucking responsibilities, you got rent to pay, you got bills,

it does not feel like a lot because that goes very quick when you've got to pay bills. Yeah, fair enough. My phone bill in Japan is a scam, bro. I'm paying like 60 bucks a month for that. I think that's normal, isn't it? That's a scam. All right.

Next up, paper newspapers and magazines will be obsolete within the next 50 years. All right. Oh, actually. Hmm. Oh, actually, I'm thinking about this. I thought I had an answer like locked in,

but now that I'm thinking about it, you know, I'm going to do the silver lining approach. All right. Three, two, one. Agree. Disagree. I'll take the easy route this time.

Okay. All right. Okay, because I was going to make the argument of the, kind of already becoming obsolete. But then I, so I was going to right agree. But then I thought about it and I'm just like, well, with like the fucking rise of AI and shit like that, I feel like it's going to start.

And the fact that like physical media and stuff like that is coming back stronger than ever, I feel like we might get to a point where paper newspapers and magazines are going to start being in the same territory as like physical game cartridges or like, you know, just like DVDs and like CDs and vinyl and stuff. stuff like that. So maybe it might come back within the next 50 years. I don't know though. What do you say? I mean, what's stopping them from using AI to print out the paper papers? Newspapers. Nothing, really. So which is why it's hard to say if it'll be obsolete or no, right? Like, who knows? Like, just news in general might be obsolete the next 50 years. Because nobody can

believe anything anymore. I mean, it's more about getting... Unless it happens right in front of it. It's more about I think what is missing in the modern day isn't news. It's trust, you know. It's all fake news now. No one can't believe it. Everyone is low on trust in terms of what source do we can't. What source can we trust and what source do we trust? Yeah.

Having said that, it's just, it's been a while since we got, I mean, when's the last time you read a newspaper? Like a physical one? Yeah, like a physical one. I think I've ever read a physical newspaper, bro. I mean, people would just get... Maybe back in, like, middle school? People get their news in different ways now, honestly. Yeah.

Usually it's like through some kind of device, whether it's like YouTube or like some kind of news app or whatever it might be. Yeah. Like, you know, maybe TV. Yeah. But like, yeah, I don't really see... I mean, like, even in Japan now, like,

you barely ever see people actually carrying around like paper newspapers. But like, that's why I think, though, like, maybe the paper newspapers might become obsolete in the next 50 years. But I think magazines, like culture magazines and stuff, stuff like that, which still has an incredibly large subculture here in Japan, at least. I think that is eventually going to turn into what, like, vinyl and CD and cassettes have now become, where it's like, it becomes more of, like, a collectible thing. Like, people are already, like, collecting, like, you know, Nintendo Power magazines from, like, the 80s and shit,

right? So, like, I don't think, like, culture magazines will be obsolete, but, like, I reckon the paper newspapers are going to be. Yeah, I just think that a lot of these organizations that do magazines have expanded into also content creation with the magazine. It's about just expanding. Yeah. Yeah, I think people always

on the magazine. People want, if you're really into a hobby, it's fun to physically read something about it. So I don't think it's going anywhere. Yeah, when I go to like a, when I go to like my hairdresser and I'm like, you know,

just pick up a random magazine. I do admit like, it's kind of nice to just like flip through a magazine. Just like, just to see what the fuck's I don't do that. You don't do that? Dude, do you get the same place still? Yeah.

The fucking horrible videos they play. play. Oh, I fucking hate that shit. They have these tablets that beam adds into your face while you're watching. Um, and all they do is play dog shit recipes. Like food recipes, food recipes that look bad. Oh, damn. Because it's like Japanese food recipes and it's like they try to make like a pasta carbonara, but they do it like a sick fuck devise the recipe. It's, it's like horrific. All these recipes are so bad. I hate getting my haircut. I'll love. Love you at my hair cut. Just in general.

It's... Ooh, I got a book my haircut. Yeah, so do I. Same. I don't know. I just hate the act of... I hate... I hate...

Do you talk to your hairdresser? Yeah. A little bit. A little bit. It's why I hate it. It's out of social obligation. You know, it's where the magazines come in clutch, bro. Well, sometimes I just pull out my phone.

You just pull out your phone? Well, that's the modern day... Shit, I roar dog it, man. You can do that shit? Of course you can put your phone. If you don't want to talk to him, he or she's not going to give a fuck. But I always try to keep my head completely still, and I just raw dog it. Bro, you're not in like clockwork orange.

I think I am. He can grab your head and move it around, dude. Bro, my entire life, I have just raw dogged every single haircuts I've ever had. That's why I hate it. I used to get my hair cut by, I don't know where the guy was from. All I knew is that the whole store was Arabic in London. Yeah. And that guy would slap me around while cutting my hair.

Like those $1 Indian massage. Dude, yes. That was when I realized it did not fucking matter where my head is. They're not going to be like, guess I'll fucking cut if your head's not in the right place. Like the guy just grab your head and just fucking move it around. Yeah, like a joystick. Like a Nintendo fucking 64 stick.

Yeah. Oh, man. I thought you weren't allowed to just like do anything while you caught your hair. Why the fuck should you don't be allowed to do that? They're not going to be offended. I don't know. They don't care. Maybe they're like, excuse me, can you keep your head still?

I've put like any headphones and watch YouTube videos before. Brother, what? Is this life hack? When did you guys figure this out? When do you guys forget this out that you can do this? I'm a paying customer. Yeah, you can do whatever the fuck you want. If they don't want me to do it, he'll tell me don't.

Just because you go to a restaurant doesn't mean you have to have a conversation with the waiter. It's the same thing. Yeah, but like, when are you having your haircut? You got to do that. Yeah. No, you don't. You got to ask him how his kids are doing.

Yes, let's ask, let's ask 16-year-old Jimmy who's getting paid minimum wage. How are your kids doing? How's the kids doing? How's the folks? No, I, you can, yeah, of course you can do that. Yeah. So what I do is I normally, I chat with him.

Yeah. And then when the conversation dries up, you know, after like 15 minutes. Yeah. Phone time. Kids these days. But I know he's looking, so I need to make sure I'm phone timing something important.

So I'm reading the news. Oh, that's what you're doing? Oh, that's what you're doing? Yeah. What's going on there? is bad, isn't it? Yes. Yes.

Am I right? Or I pull up deep, deep-thoughtted articles. Or a full page of conjure. Yeah, think pieces. I do peer reviews. I'm just going over this right now, just to give my sign of approval. Oh, okay. Well, I'm sorry.

Try it out next time. I don't know. Next time just be like. It's mental block now. I just... No, next time just be like, you know, start off the conversation with just like like, you know, how you're being, blah, blah, blah.

He knows me. He knows me. He's used to it. Yeah. But I'm just like, damn, I just stare at myself. I'm like, damn. He looked like shit. God damn. No, it just stresses me out because I see him cutting.

I'm like, oh, oh. Oh, I don't like that. What's he cutting? He's cutting too much. He's cutting too much. But he always cooks. Yeah, I always just like have a conversation with my hairdresser. Like, my hairdresser and I talk about like manga and shit.

Yeah. I don't know. I just don't like conversation, man. I just hate small talk. Cat person, isn't it? Just, yeah, maybe. I don't know, small talk. Next time, just straight out.

Next time, just pull your phone out. And he, they are not going to care. Yeah, I know. I know. I know. But now it's just principle for me, you know. Now that I've got my, I've got my entire life just zoning out and doing nothing while I get my, my hair cut.

I just love raw dogging life. You know, sometimes you need those moments where you just raw dog life. I just have no stimulation. I feel you. Yeah, you know. I feel you. You know. Yeah.

It's my, it's my detox. These are all banged. For sure. Yeah. All right. All right. Uh, which one do you? Let's start with, let's start with women are kind of the men.

Hmm. This question was written by man. All right. How misogynistic do I want to get today? Have we seen that Joseph Marino clip? No. When he's in an interview, it's a like football manager. And he's like, I don't speak.

If I speak. I am in trouble. Yeah. So I do it speak. Women are kinder than men? Hmm. This is very tough because there are so many aspects to the word kindness. Yes.

Okay. Okay. Oh. We're going to get in trouble. Ready? I really hope we have a variation of answers here. Three, two. Oh, ready?

Three, two, one. Disagree. Shears. Connor got the legendary ball this side. Women the queen. You never do anything wrong. So I put agree and Gant and Jay put disagree.

Well, gentlemen, I'd love to hear why you both feel like women are not kind of than men. Well, Connor, um... What are your beta, Connor? What are your beta? Tell me, do tell.

Do tell, do tell. Do you like pussy? What are you trying to impress the women here? By denying the truth, Connor? If I had two women co-hosts, they would be much kinder to me than this. Fuck, no, they weren't. Talk, tell me about this. Well, you know, just, I'll just, I'll let Jerry take this one.

Just. Go ahead, right. Wow, thanks, bro. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Women suck sometimes, you know. Whoa. I will just say.

I disagree. Women just suck sometimes. I disagree. Women can be a lot more, I think women can be a lot more backstabby. I'm just going to say that. Women are a lot more backstabby. They are kinder to your face.

Show me a social media thing. They're kind of to your face, but not behind your back. Um, I, damn, that's crazy. That's a crazy. shit, maybe I shouldn't

let you take that. You should not have let it take that. You should not have let to take that. There is no good argument for this, bro. I'm in trouble either way. I think to engage with that point, I think that to men, sometimes the women, if there is an argument

or a betrayal, oftentimes, there are a lot of guys, it's in a romantic setting. I feel like it can feel a lot more intense than when the guy's not. You made a mistake with the framing of your argument, right? So to argue this point, you don't bring down women, you bring up men.

Because men, that's what I thought you would go for me. I was really surprised you went to bring down women in room. I was very surprised. One thing you need to understand is that I am a misogynist. So, no, see, men, see,

see, kind of men have this camaraderie. I feel that, you know, it's more common within a group of male friends, than a lot of like female friendships, you know, that I've seen and experienced. Men, we don't need to, we don't need to talk every day. We don't need to always, you know, check on each other.

Yes, women are sometimes a lot more emotionally smart and emotionally, you know, they can pick up on the smaller details, but men, we just, we just, sometimes we know we chill with each other. I think for women, the highs are higher and the lows are lower. What do you mean? Like the kindness capacity you get is much higher. Right. Yeah.

But if you cross them, the fury you get is unprecedented. We really need a girl for this. Yeah. This is not a conversation that three men should be making. We are the exact people who need to be doing this. I've never felt more alpha podcast than this exact moment right here. We discuss. I'm saying women are kind.

No, I think it's guys, you know. But like with guys, we, We are so dumb that we miss so many things. Like we don't pay attention to each other. Yeah. And so I think oftentimes if men are going through it, you know, we're really bad at picking up on that and being able to offer help. Yeah.

I don't think it means that we're not kinder. But I think it's that I think women are way more adjusted to be able to act on kindness and be able to act on empathy and help people. Or if you're Joe, you just think they're bitches. Yep. Oh my God. Oh, my God. Right.

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I felt it. Disagreeing for me and Joey. agree for Garan. Okay, Garn. Okay. How would you... Would you like me to do my argument first? Yeah, sure.

You can do your argument first. I'll give you the sensible argument. All right. Okay. You know, catfishing comes in many shapes and sizes. It could be, you know, if Jerry was 400 pounds, could make a picture of him where he's 150. Sure. And he looks lean.

That's catfishing. Yeah. It could also just be, you know, me being a guy and then pretending to be a woman. Mm-hmm. There's so many different variations of it. Mm-hmm. If it was say the one where Joey had a picture of himself, but he very much edited it,

or very much changed it, then I think how would you have a legal basis to kind of distinguish where is the catfishing happened? Now let's say if we're saying, just if you pretend to not be even you in any capacity, what's the crime? Like catfishing, what's the punishment for that?

That was the argument I was going to make. It's like how would you quantifiably determine how punishable the catfishing is? Would this be the only law that applies to being a bad person to date in a cup anyway? Like, this is the only law that would now apply to dating going bad. Yes. If it's for catfishing for stealing money, I think that's just fraud. We have something for that.

Yeah. So I assume it's just with dating. We have things like identity theft. And then I think also, you know, it's kind of on you a little bit to not do a bit of due diligence here. It's like it's a skill issue. Kind of a bit of a skill issue. Damn. There's often a lot of signs that someone is catfishing.

Mm-hmm. You know. I don't know, man. I feel like it's getting harder and harder by the day. Yeah. Yeah, I guess AI is making harder. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. I mean, like I, you know, like we said, we are, we are in an era of, you know, the dead

internet right now. We don't know what is real. What is not? Nothing. You know, we, I feel like, you know, what if we had some protections in place to tell us what is real? Am I talking to the person I think I am? Am I even talking to a person at all?

You know? Yeah. I'm not saying that, I'm not saying that you need to go to jail for catfishing, but, you know, sometimes like you get. Tell me the punishment. Let me, let's say you, like, you know, let's say you get a parking ticket or something. You just pay a small fine. It's a minor inconvenience, you know, but it is enough of a deterrent to keep you under.

Do you think a small fine? Yes. Not execution. Huh? What? Not execution. It says punishable by law. It didn't say what the punishment.

is. You, people may have assumed going to jail, but I feel like punishable by law, it could be a ticket, could be a fine, could be anything, you know, just enough of a deterrent to keep things. How would this require some government way of verifying who is who? Yeah, how would you determine it? We need to require... You would need some kind of central system. Would we need to have to hand a more information to the company? I love what the UK is doing right now, but I feel like we don't give enough of our data. to the government. I think we don't,

we've learned that we just... It's gonna get to the point where they're gonna start punishing by a war, I feel, the UK. I'm trying. Give me a second now. I'm trying. I'm cooking.

Go on. I'm cooking. Um, so, uh... So, uh... So, yeah, we, we, it's about protecting children.

It's about protecting children. It's about Protecting the children, Connor. It's about protecting the minors, Connor. Why are children catfishing? Children get catfish, Connor. Who are children getting catfish by? Could be anyone.

Are they on Tinder? Yeah, you know, could be... I think there's a bigger problem than the catfishing. No, they're on Discord, bro. Think of all the people are... Think of all the children of Roblox, Connor. Yeah. Are you saying...

Catfished on the daily. Yeah. Are you saying... So are you on the greening? Bitch, what is this? No, I'm just like, you make a good point. Who's dating on Roblox? Kids.

There's predators on Roblox. You think... Joey's like me! They're getting smarter every day. I'm joking. But... I think it should be a skill diff. You should know.

You should be able to smell it. Yeah, but you can say that about any kind of fraud, right? No. It is very, very easy to fall for some kind of scam, some kind of fraud. Have you ever been catfish? Uh, no. Have you ever catfish? No.

Catfishing is if you're ugly. Catfishing is just pretending to be someone that you're not. I've had someone catfish being me. You have catfished, haven't you? I've not catfish. Yeah. I've got catfish. Yeah, you've called people and say that you're a hot anime by one.

But clearly you're not. Ah, no wonder you want, do you don't want to. Officers get his ass. I feel like if I felt like I was, let's say, on the uglier side of things, which I've always felt myself, I've always saw myself average, right? I felt like there's got to be an average woman out there for me. Sure. But even if I was on the uglier side, I would never think, well, shit, there's an easy way to fix this.

Lie. Because it feels like a fruitless thing to do. You think with the whole... In the dating world, because you're... I mean, maybe if your goal is to get, like, nude pictures of them, and perhaps that, you know, I'm sure that maybe that's part of it now. But if you're ultimately trying to date someone, catfishing feels kind of like a dumb kind of thing to do.

Do you think it's, like, more prevalent than ever now with the whole, like, looks maxing shit? Yeah, of course. Yeah. I have a feeling. Like, the whole looks maxing thing has brought on a whole wave of catfishing, in a sense. Yeah, okay. But I don't know, people are falling for it.

It's the thing. Let me ask you the question then. Do you count catfishing as... What's the line of catfishing? This is why it would never work as a law. Yeah. Is it pretended to be someone else? Or if you only post pictures with filters on?

Heavy filters on. Is that catfishing, you know? Yeah. I'd say so. Filters? I mean, I think now is all these editing tools are getting so much better and there's so much accessible where, you know, it's really easy to just be like, hey, clean up, clean this up.

Yeah. I mean, you know, this. There's some people I follow on social media who only exclusively post, and I don't think I've ever seen what they actually look like because they have such heavy filters on all the time. It's like snow filter. Everything's through the max, right? Yeah. And it's like, dude, this looks bad, and it feels like you're hiding something.

Yeah. Just post a picture of your damn fucking face if you're going to post it. Yeah. I'd rather post a fucking picture of my cock than a heavily-headed picture of my face. Well, go on. I'm not going to because I'm not going to do either. Yeah, I mean... I don't know.

There is a lot of, I don't know, I can I say, distrust on the internet right now. I mean, the amount of times that you go online and you see a post from an account that makes you angry about some, like, certain maybe it could be like U.S. politics or whatever. And then you go on the account and you're like, oh, you are not from the U.S. at all. Half or not from like India. Yeah. It's, there is a lot of catfish going on. I feel like catfishing is way more outside of just the bounds of dating, you know, which is where... Faking what you look like.

Yeah, faking what you look like, where is where is where most people, you know, the term catfishing comes from, obviously. But, you know, I feel like deception and deception online is catfishing in that sense is prevalent in so many other spaces as well, you know. I just think it'd be impossible to try and police it through law, though. Yeah. But in a perfect world. Of course. world, yes. But unfortunately, we live in hell. Okay, that's me playing devil's advocate. All right. Let's, uh...

Do the last one you go to the page? Uh, we can do last one. Okay. You should live with your partner before marriage. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Okay. Okay. Ready. Three, two, one. Agree. Agree. We are. Sensible. Yes. You should probably live with the person that you might want to marry. Which is why I will never understand how even in this modern day and age, there are so many Japanese couples especially who don't do this. Like so many Japanese couple I personally know and just have heard about

where they don't start living together until after they marry. I spoke to this one person who I'll chat with them. And then I was like, the way, say it was saying it again, they wanted to have two apartments next to each other. Yeah. one for each of the partners and they were like, yeah, so that when I'm tired I can just go to my apartment.

Yeah, I know a couple of people who are in that situation. What? It's called Bikchokon, which is like separate house marriage. So each person has their own house that they live in and they can live close by to one another where they can see each other right now. I could see the cons. Yeah. Which is like you probably would take, you know,

spending time together you wouldn't take, you would never take it for granted because you have to kind of, you know, plan it. But it sounds expensive. Yes, absolutely. Also sounds like you don't want to be around each other. Yeah. I don't know. If my partner came up to me and said that, I'd be like,

oh, so you don't like me. Yeah. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, you can have your space. I want my space as well, but... That's what rooms are for. That's why guys have the guy room. Yeah, let's just get up your own. Let's just get a place.

The woman is not allowed to enter that room. Everyone knows this. That's what the man cave is for. The man cave is for. Yeah, I just, I've just never, understood that idea. And also just traditionally in Japan for the longest time, it was always considered like, not taboo, I guess, but like, like for example, right? Like in the Philippines, for instance, Aki's family have always found it weird that she was living with me before we got

married. Because in the Philippines, that's not a normal thing to do. I don't know about Thailand, but at least in like a lot of like Southeast Asian countries, I'm pretty sure that's like just a cultural standard, which is fine, you know, that's how it works in that country. But like, I've always just found it really weird. It's like, so you're about to spend the rest of your life with person, but you don't know how they're like every day, like in the house, like how you guys do stuff together in the house or do chores around the house or just how they live. Like, that would be scary. You can start to hate someone real quick if they're an absolute horrible person to live

with. Totally. And if that's gross and messy. That's how, like, bad roommates become a thing, right? Like, pissing nabies shit. If you're piss in Navi's toilet and not flush. Who would do that? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think you just have to do it. But, I mean, I mean, I don't know. Yeah, okay. I also like my alone time a wall. Alternate question then. How long do you think you should date someone before you think about moving in with them?

Whatever. Whatever? Yeah, I think stuff like that is like, you know. Yeah. Well, how long were you and Sydney together before you moved into that? Well, answer the question first. Okay. First of all, I don't care what everyone else does.

Yeah. If someone wants to do what Cotton City did, it's pretty ill-advised. but you could do it. I think we tend to have like you know, rough vibe suggestions. It's like,

hey, probably should date the guy for a year or so before you move in with him. Yeah. Just so you can kind of get to know him. Yeah. You know,

like that kind of stuff. Not for any like, you must do this X time. Yeah. Like I'm a big believer in like, hey, just let people do what the fuck they want to do.

Take a time. Yeah. It's not a race. But you definitely shouldn't move in with someone like Yeah. Within like a month or two of dating. Yeah.

How about one day? That's insane. That's insane. I waited two and a half years for. You can only do when you're young and dumb. Yeah. Across countries as well. Yeah, that's so dumb.

That's crazy. You could have been an Indian catfisher. I could have. Well, we had met in person, you know, so she did know that I was in the filter on. What if you had the filter on? But yeah, what we did was ill-advised to horrific. I got to work down. 99 times out of like 100, that wouldn't work out.

Yeah, but I'm the gatcha player, man. I got the five star. He was immediately like, that's the SSR, right there. Oh, Karen. But most people who do that, that is a big life-lassen moment. Yeah. That is a damn, that was dumb of me. Yeah.

No, it was a lifeless moment for us, even we look back at that moment. And we were like, damn, we fucking dumb. But somehow it worked out. And we don't want to take like the wrong lesson from it. So if you guys have kids and your son or daughter came up to you. Hell no. And do the same thing now. Hell now.

Hell now, baby. Yeah. I don't care if it worked for us. I know, like, but it worked out for you, mom and dad. I have enough self-awareness of how dumb my fucking decision-making was and how dumb our decision-making was. Um, and. Yeah, what if guys just like, I've seen your paws and these guys.

You got terrible luck. Give it a couple more pause. I don't care. If I'm a hypocrite in this case, you know, I will take the hypocrites, uh, label, uh, because fair enough. Yeah. You, uh, it's lucky that it worked out for us, but, bro, twice in a row. Twice in a, yeah. If it's twice in a row, maybe something's just in the blood, in our bloodline, you know. All right. Next one. Being likable and charismatic is more powerful than being smart. More powerful.

Okay. Being likable and charismatic is more powerful than being smart. Okay. Ready? Yeah. Three, two, one. Agree. God damn it. Yeah, we all agree. God, damn it. I mean, the truth is, it is, but what does the word powerful mean in this context? Yeah, that's what I'm trying to grasp that. more useful in life? That's how I interpreted it as...

Absolutely. I mean, having people's skills is probably the most single, stronger skill you can have. Totally. You know, everything will come your way if you know how to talk to people. It's the truth. Being smart means nothing in the modern world,

let's be real. Yeah, also look at the leaders right now. Look at the current most powerful leader in the world. There's not an ounce of smart there. How the fuck did he get there? Yeah. How much poor do scientists and smart people have... Like negative, unfortunately.

Dude, Isaac Newton died a version. It's not very powerful. I mean, it's a shake. Yeah, he was a version when he died. Why'd you know this? It's like a common fact. Well, I... You would know if you were smart.

Google the shit. Google. I'm not smart, you know. I think it's a terrible time to be a smart person. Uh, yeah. Kind of. There's nothing that... It doesn't really get you anywhere.

We are not rewarding intellectualism or... Not at all. Which is the shame because I... You know, I think everyone... When have we ever? When have we ever? We've always been pretty bad at it. Yeah. I think there's a period where we were pretty... good with it, though. Which period? I think like... Like the ancient times? No, I think like after like... Like, after World War II, there was a big push for, like, education, you know? Making sure... Like, that was like, a massive thing and everyone's...

life and then we kind of made it useless by commodifying it and making it a degree just a paper and not mean anything by not actually encouraging people to do something. Yeah, when did, okay, that's the question I want to ask. When did it become not cool to be intelligent? Or like even want to seek intelligence. I think like, I want to say like eight nine years ago. Eight, nine years ago? Yeah, because I think, remember like early internet days? Yeah. Yeah. It was like atheism was like the coolest thing ever. Yeah. Like being like, um, actually. and like redditors and stuff like this kind of vibe.

It was, it was, uh... I don't know if that was ever considered cool, though. It was just like the norm. But that was like that was going around. Like the norm was, was, you know, analyzing everything was, was offering, trying to be as well spoken as possible. Like, when you read message boards

from like 12 years ago, it's fucked how, how eloquent people are speaking comparatively to now. Yeah, totally. But we've like dumbed down everything. And then if you try to speak like that now, everyone thinks you're trying hard and you're cringe.

Yeah. Like the act of trying and the act of trying to be intelligent is now like seen as like lame. Yeah. I hate that. Not even, well, maybe not to make tens, but maybe earlier.

You know, like early 2000s and shit. Yeah, I would say early 2000s for that. Like anti-intellectualism is a thing that is happening right now. And I think it's half the reason why like, you know, a lot of political things have gone the way they have.

Mm-hmm. Because we are, we want to simplify everything. We want to make everything fucking rage bait. Yeah. You know, that's what it is, man. Yeah,

I don't like it. Yeah. I don't know. There's just like, why not? Why not try and be a little bit smarter? But it's like, you know, they have things like personality hires in jobs as well. People get hired just to like make the vibes better at work.

Yeah, for sure. Like this. I feel like that can be useful though, you know. That is useful. It is actually useful to have someone who makes the vibes in the office immaculate. Yeah. Like that is,

you don't want a sterile. There's a reason why they hire these people. You don't want a sterile work environment. It depends on how much they're getting paid though. It's like how much is this affecting the bottom line. Yeah. Yeah. Nobody cares if the personality hire is not that great at his job.

Yeah. Yeah. That's why Pete will never be jobless, you know? People never, like someone like Pete will never go jobless. There's always a need for a Pete in the world. Someone always, because like we have so many average and smart people. We just need fucking Godlike, charismatic people like Pete. Yeah.

So desperately. Yeah. Like, we don't have enough of those. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like for most of human history, it's always been more power. to be charismatic than it is to be smart.

Obviously, we always will need smart people in the world. And I feel like in the time you're talking about, you know, there was a time during the, let's say, the boom of the internet, the kind of like era post.com bubble where it was like nerds were seen as really uncool. And then suddenly we saw like nerds making a lot of money. And then they came cool for a while. And it was just like, holy shit, I want to be a software engineer.

And now it's just turned, that has turned into tech bros. Which is... Oh, tech bros. Oh, my God. Definitely. All right. What's next? A single soul thinks tech pros are cool.

Yeah. Okay. The universe is a simulation. Sure. Okay. Okay. All right. Three, two, one.

I already know you're going to agree. Agree. Oh, agree? Agree? Agree? You disagree? Both of you guys agree. I disagree.

What? Why? Why? If it's not a simulation, then what is it, Connor? We're not in a simulation. Then what is it? Look, I once believed this theory when I was a Reddit kid in 2014. Why? Why? Why? Why? Why did you once believe it? And why did you stop believing it, Connor?

You know? Do you not remember the Matrix? Huh? You're not? No, I agree. I like to think that in this simulation, I wouldn't have this level of, sentience or, I don't know, just this feeling. I wouldn't have it. I believe in that human aspect. Yeah, but what's to say you weren't programmed to think that way? I just don't think programming could reach such a scale that it could move all these pieces all at once.

In this day and age? What about in 100,000 million years from now? Why would they remake this age? Because they're experimenting on us, bro. Who says this is the only thing they're simulating? This could be test number one out of a million. I you know it's it's so lame because it comes down to like the power of humanity I just feel like yeah I'm not I just don't feel like that and that's what it came down to

that's why I believe in a soul uh yeah I think so because you know you can kind of you know you can kill someone and then come back to life uh what like you can go you can go brain dead for like X amount of things right and you can bring them back right sure sometimes you know you're like a little too slow and the brain's like I'm done That's the soul. That's the essence of the soul. The essence of humanity. Yeah, because like, what is it in your brain that is like,

all right, we're done. You know what I mean? There's something there. It's the cells, right? Yeah. Brain cells dying. For sure, for sure. Yeah.

But I think it's fun. Yeah. It is a fun idea. Yeah, it's a fun idea. I don't think it goes anywhere or does anything particular. No. The soul is like another word for, like, life essence.

Yeah, there's so many terms you could use. Yeah. I don't know. I've been thinking about it and obviously... You think we're in a simulation. Huh? You think we're in a simulation. Sometimes I just think about some of the world.

When I see the way you like eat pizza, I'm like, this has to be a simulation. Yeah. No one, no real... There's another actual test where Garnt actually only eats the pizza cross as well. That's happening side by side. I don't want this. Or we just never know. That's the simultaneous universe.

simultaneous universe. Whenever I think about like the multi-universe theory and stuff like that, I always just think like, yeah, what if we just one fucking test in a number of a million different tests, where some higher form that we can't even comprehend is like checking us out and being like, okay, let's see what works, what doesn't work, for whatever it is that they're doing it for. It's just a cool idea, I think. Because are you seriously going to sit there and go, oh, yes, the universe is infinitely expanding? No.

Yeah, that's just, yeah. That's just... How do you comprehend that? What do you comprehend that? How do you comprehend something that is infinitely increasing? It's a render problem. There's always gonna be a wall. They can't render...

They can't render the edge. So they just say, there's not enough computing power. Yeah. In this game, the render distance is 45 billion light years. Anything past that just doesn't render them. You know, we get there and it's just like all low-res polygons, you know. That's why when we, we,

That's when the Hubble Space Telescope... You hit the invisible wall. Yeah, they hit the... You hit the skybox. There are just some things where I'm just like, hmm, it seems... This seems pretty simulation-y, you know, when you break things down. Like, why are their universal constants? Why is the speed of lights?

The speed that it is? The speed that it is. Sorry. The speed that it is. And it is just a constant, no matter of... where you are in the universe, you know, that feels like a... Why is that weird? Huh?

Why is it weird? Because the light's the same. What do you mean? Light is light. Why wouldn't it be constant? Do you, so you don't think it's weird that light is constant. No. The speed of light is constant no matter like...

Where it is. Where it is, you, how fast you are going. You will, time will literally slow the fuck down so that light will stay the same speed. That's sick. It is sick. It is sick. Why does that make it as a simulation? Just because I can't answer that.

That's like saying, why do you like hot dogs? That's the answers to waffles. I'm like, what are you talking about? Yeah, I agree. This is like, you know, this is like... To help. I mean, it's a cool concept, yes, but I, unfortunately, I don't see what it has to do with this simulation.

You know, there are a few, like, universal constants that exist that stay the same, like, I think it's... Planks constant? Planks constants, the force between, like, was it the force between Atter? or molecules and like that, the strong... Can you search up universal constants? Sometimes we're wrong about this shit. We are wrong about this.

We find out later on that we're wrong. That's part of the simulation. Yeah, what are the universal constants? Well, I mean, there is the universal constant. And, you know, I look at stuff like this and I'm like, damn, this feels like someone just programmed the universe, and just like there's a few, like core, core numbers.

Just a bunch of programmers like, hull of around being like, hey, we got this constant G. Yeah. Yeah. Throw a number out. Yeah. It's like the question, why do these universal

constants exist? Well, they exist because without them, the universe wouldn't exist. But also, maybe you could equally argue that it is designed that way by a simulation, maybe, because without these constants, the universe literally would not exist and we wouldn't be here. I remember, I remember there's always like one theory that's always

stuck with me and it's like, I think I read it in some like science fiction short story or something, but it's this idea that it's not so much this idea that the universe is a simulation, but it's this idea that the universe, if you can like interpret the universe as just like a single sphere where like everything that we know of and everything that exists is within this like one sphere, that that is just one cell in the being of another larger being. And that's, like, imagine if, like, the universe is just, like, a single cell in the body of a human or something. And that, that is the entire idea. And that it just keeps on expanding forever in that way.

I've always found that to be a fascinating concept. Brother, I've never heard this before. Yeah, I remember seeing in some kind of science fiction short story. But I always thought that was, like, kind of like, a world. That's like an even weirder concept. And, like, the universe is just forever expanding. Do you think, okay, question, do you, you simulator agrees? Yeah.

Do you think it's humans who are running the simulator or some other alien being? It's got to be some way higher form. Yeah. You think they would make humans, like they would devise us to run the simulation? Maybe they're running a simulation to see, maybe we're not the only life forms that they're simulates. I mean, we do it with like single cell organisms in like laboratories. So what if they say that a higher form of intelligence isn't doing that with humans? What if they're making?

What do you think they're making? What do you think they're testing for? Don't know. It's not built in our programming to understand that. They want to make TikTok shorts and they make a simulation of humanity. To see how far will fall. To find the best moments to make TikTok shorts off. Maybe. They simulate the entire humanity.

Maybe. Maybe they're going to interstellar. Maybe it's a simulation to, maybe it's some beings who are, you know, do not want to explore their own universal space. so they go inwards into like software and then they just create the universe so that's

they can just exist in the universe right? It's because they get no bitches and it's the only way they can figure it out. Studying humans to be like, how are these creatures getting bitches? How are they fornicating? Yes. Yes. I'm not nearly astrined enough to be having this conversation.

Yeah, I kind of realize I'm far too sober for this. Let's go to the next one. An open bar at a wedding is a bad idea. Trauma makes you funnier. Okay, an open bar at a wedding is a bad idea. Ready? Three, two, one.

Agree. Disagree. What do you mean? You had an open bar. Yeah, I saw the bill. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I guess it depends on who you're asking, you know. I'm, because, like, I'm disagreeing now.

I'm having an open bar at my wedding. I might agree with you. As the only one who has had a wedding. It is a bad idea. That's so true. It is a bad idea on your budget, man. God damn. Am I allowed to ask how much it came to, the open bar bill?

I can't remember, but I remember... It was a significant amount. It was a significant amount compared to the many feet. Was it four or five digits? It wasn't that much. much actually. Wait, four digits? Okay, yeah, it was four digits. Four digits. So I didn't have a big wedding. So. Yeah, I know. That's why I was like, damn, if we got in the five digits, holy shit. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean,

it was, it was everyone had a fun time. Yeah, it was great. That's it matters. That's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, you ask me, it was a great idea. You can't not have an open bar. Do you know, do you know what I'm pissed about that, uh, we bought, like, soju for everyone to, like, if we remember, we bought, like, like, a few Soju boxes to give to everyone. Not going to lie, big dog, I don't remember. I was so pissed. I barely remember anything.

Yeah, we bought a bunch of like soju to like give to everyone to toast. And we ended up with like a crate left or something because the venue forgot to give out the rest of the soji. Because everyone was just drinking the rest of the bar dry, apparently. I told my brother, he was going to have a wedding. And he was like, I'm not going to have an open bar. I was like, what the fuck do you mean?

You're not going to have an open bar? Yeah. The hell are you talking about? He's like, well, yeah, no, it's lame because, you know, people buy drinks. And if it's open bar, they don't finish them. And I got to pay for it. I was like, what? That's so cringe.

I said, I'll pay for your open bar. Right. Whenever you get married. At this point, he wasn't getting engaged. Sure. Like, two weeks later, he gets engaged. I was like, I was like, do you remember what I told you the other week? He's like, yep.

I was like, okay. I have a tape. I have an ample. I felt like he brought it up to me to get that out of me. Yeah, yeah. Dude, he baited you. He baited me. He's like, I can't afford it.

Oh, no. He can definitely, yeah, he can definitely afford it too. Is it your older brother or young? Yeah, my older brother. Fuck, you got played. Yeah, you got played. I did get played. He played me.

Shit, maybe I should try it with my sister. See what she says. Try it, you. I mean, like, not going to have an open bar. So I was like, I don't, you know, getting wedding gifts is always annoying. Yeah. Yeah.

And I was like, what better of a gift can I get than buying alcohol? Than alcohol. Making them a wedding more fun. Yeah, totally. But it's going to be in, if it's in the UK, I'm kind of scared there. Oh, yeah. Why are you scared?

Does the fuckers drink too much there? Yeah. It's also more expensive. I'd love to do it in like California because only one person would have a wine. And the rest of them would get like La Croy. It'd be the cheapest bar of my life. Actually, not have to tip. Yeah.

It would be pretty... If you do in California, fucking... No one drinks there. Exactly that's what I'm saying. Everyone's on white cloth. You're the cheapest wedding. Everyone just like...

Everyone gets high there. That's it. You know, true. Yeah, true. We've got an open dispensary at all ready. Now, now you would be... Now we're talking.

Please roll for the bride. Toke for the bride. For the bride. Oh, my God. Junk in? For what? Oh, Oh shit.

Junkin? To who pays the bill? I'll just gather all you drunk bastards over and be like, all right, everyone gather around. That's not fair. He already paid for his bill. Sure.

All right, next one. Next one. Drinking age should be lowered. All right. Okay. All right. All right. Okay.

Okay. Ready? Three, two. one. Agreed. We all agree. All agreed. I'm sorry, 20 is so

fucking late to start drinking. Oh, in Japan, they're changing it to 18 now, apparently. Are they actually? Yeah, they're thinking about it. Because they recently changed the, like, the whole Seijinsky thing that you normally do at 20.

I think they're changing it now to 18. I don't know if it's gone through it or they're going to, but... 21 is crazy in America as well. That is insane. Yeah. Like, I think 18 is reasonable. that's what it should be, to be honest.

Yeah. Okay. Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay. Oh, okay, never mind. Despite lowering the legal age of adulthood from 20 to 18, they've kept the legal drinking age to 20. Oh, that's even worse for Japan.

That's basically the same thing that America is doing. 20 is so late. I also think that, like, and maybe this is just like European cope. Yeah. I think the later you start drinking and the more like taboo it is, the more like overboard you go and you finally can drink. I don't know, though. I think it depends.

I've seen both ways, honestly. Because Aki started drinking when she was 25, and she barely drinks now. She doesn't like the flavor. I know a lot of people like that. Yeah, but on the opposite end, you have Pete who didn't start drinking until like, when was it? Like 28.

28. Oh, yeah. And now he's an alcoholic. And motherfuckerager stays up till 4 a.m. now. Drinker. He actually just do that much anymore. I think as he realized he was. Like, this is killing me.

Yeah, and also he's a dad now. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. That dad life stopped him. Yeah. All right. So, okay, genuine question.

Okay. If the drinking air, if we all agree, the drinking age should be lowered. Yes. Because we're from the UK and Australia. Yes. When do you think someone is an adult? Do you think it is 18? No.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Let's, let's ignore the legal whatever. Yeah. Here's the problem with adulthood. Is that you're never going to feel ready for it. Mm-hmm.

Because like, there's no time that you feel like the adulthood starts. Okay, but now that we're all a little bit older, what is the age that you think, that number one, maybe you became an adult? And number two, you hear someone say that age and you're like, okay, you are in my mental space, you are now an adult. What is that age? I think like 27. Okay. Fuck me. 27. Holy shit.

Here's the thing. Here's the thing, right? Like, I actually do think at 18, you're an adult. Like, I think, like, like, the only thing you don't have is experience. Mm-hmm. Yeah. You know, the reason why I don't want to talk to an 18-year-old is because I'm like, holy fuck, we have nothing in common. I have, like, bills to worry about.

Yeah. Yeah. And, like, I have so much other shit going on. Yeah. I don't want to talk to you about Roblox. I don't know. I don't know what 18-year-old to do. Yeah, they're definitely still.

I don't know what I think about it. I think 18 years are still playing robots? Look, I don't know. I'm 30. Then they are not an adult. See, I said 27 because for a number of reasons, one is that's when I started to kind of personally being like that. But also, 27 for me was around the time where I kind of stopped like caring about how old I was.

Okay, you know what I mean? Like after 27, it kind of feels all the same to me. To me, I think 23. No, I still think, I look at 23 year old And I'm like, you're still young. You're mistaking, like, having your shit together as being an adult. Yeah. Because you don't get your shit together, too, like, 27.

Well, a lot of people still don't. Agreeable. A lot of people still don't. Yeah. You know. But, like, that's what you, I think that's the confusion here is like, right? Right. I, you know, moved out.

I, like, you two, right? Yeah. And, like, no, I was 21. Okay, right. Well, I mean, I, you know, and I, at that point, I felt like, yeah, like, I'm an adult. I can take care of myself. I can make my decisions. Was I good at doing those things?

No. Because the trial to adulthood started, which lasts pretty much your entire life, where you're trying to figure out what it is to be an adult, a responsible person. And that, unfortunately, is what takes a lot of time. But you can't, there's no way to prepare for it without being thrown into it, which I think is 18. See, I feel like from the ages, the reason I said 23, right, because you hear, you hear an 18-year-old and you're like, you're not an adult yet, you know? To me, I'm just like, 18 to... like the first years of like early 20s, the gravity of responsibilities have not yet hit you.

You've not signed up to anything yet. Exactly. Exactly. It's like right now, all you have to worry about is money in versus money out. Yeah. And the only money out is like food, house. It's like a very simple list. Yeah. Exactly. To me, that's the trial period to adulthood. That is the trial period. You are not in my minds, you are not a full adult yet. I know the law sees you as a full adult and you can you have the same responsibilities as an adult. But my mental mind is like, yo, oh, okay, okay, you're still a kid. Don't worry, you'll get there.

And to me, it's about 23, 24, when I started feeling like, okay, people start realizing how hard adulthood is. And that is when the trial period is over. And that is when the light is out of your eyes and you are fully into whatever working world you're in. You are a cog in the machine. Yeah, you are, you realize that you are a cog in the machine.

I think some people have that realization they're either shy away from it and kind of live the whole life, kind of not trying to really. Yeah, because I was about to say as a counterargument, what about people who like never leave home? Cringe. Yeah, but. I'm kidding. Say, you know, there's a lot of people out there who, for example, for financial reasons or whatever it may be, they maybe don't move out. No.

Until like 27, 28 years old, maybe even 30 years old, right? Would you say that they are less of an adult or? No, not at all. I think there's still tons of ways you. you accept responsibility, be it helping your parents, you know, like that is a real, you know, it's a real responsibility. And as you get older, it becomes more of a prevalent responsibility. Yeah.

There's a lot of the different factors that go into that. When you're taking care of yourself, it's a lot easier to do a lot of things. Yep. You don't have to worry about, you know, splitting costs of things. You don't have to worry about feeding everyone. If you're, you know, maybe it's your turn to cook dinner or something. It's a bigger responsibility than me just heating up a fucking curry from the supermarket myself, right? Like there's different aspects to it.

So I don't, you know, even though I'm joking with the cringe thing, but it's like different levels. It's like different responsibilities. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. What age then should the drinking age be lowered to? 18 at least. 18.

In all countries? Get access to everything all at once. Don't drip feed DLC bollocks this for sure. Like, if I can drive, I should be able to drink. Well, then that would be 16. Let's drip it. Let's do it. It just feels ridiculous that you can operate a motor vehicle and not have a beer.

at the same time. That's crazy. You need to learn right away the balance. You need a limit test. You should not be like introducing one after the other. Yeah. Right? Like I should be able to drive and then also have the option to go to a bar and drink.

Yeah. So that I say no from day one. Yeah. I need to be able to drink, drive and smoke a cigarette at the same time. Just to see what it feels. I should learn how many beers I can have and start. still drive. I need to know how many blunts I can smoke and still operate as well.

Totally. Limit test. Isn't just bullshit though? Like the whole like, you know, like you can drive, but you can't drink or like do other shit? I think it's weird.

That's what I've never understood about America especially. It's like, what is it about drinking that differentiated from all the other things that you have access to at like 16 to 18? Mm-hmm. It's like driving is like easily like the most dangerous thing that you, most people probably do regularly. Absolutely.

Yeah. from a young age. And it's so easy to, you know, find yourself in a lethal situation. Totally. Whereas having a bit with the boys. Having one, two, or 12 beers? What's the difference?

Seven beers are the boys? What's wrong with that? No, I mean, like, that, no, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just joking because I like beer. Yeah. But, no, I think you should be able to, all these things should be available to you, whatever. Was it Germany that at one point where, like,

14-year-olds could drink illegally or some shit? Sure. Something like that, right? Like, it wasn't constituted as alcohol for the longest time. I don't know. I might just be making that up. I also think that, like, you know,

less so now, especially in America, because I think America more than anywhere particularly is really turned off alcohol. Like, I feel like drinking. Well, the new generation has really turned off alcohol. We should find. But when we were growing up, it was like, hey, this is going to be a part of your life.

So get you stripped. Like, this is going to be a thing that you do. Because every adult does this, every adult drinks, you should learn how to drink responsibly. Yeah. Which is, hey, maybe you'll have a wine with your meal? Maybe you won't. Maybe you'll have a couple of beers with the boys. Don't go overboard.

Yeah. And that was kind of how like, when we were growing up, how it was kind of talked to us, I feel like. I don't know if it was in your house, but at least that was the general vibe. Whereas now people are realizing, you don't have to drink. No. And you can be cool? Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. The whole straight-edge shit is like coming back.

Like stronger than ever. Yep. And if that's how you want to roll, that's how you roll, you know? You're allowed to consume beer and wine, but only with the parent or legal guardian. I mean, in the UK, you can drink it, home at five. Really? Yes.

Damn. Can you drink it home at age six in the UK? It's probably the same in Australia then. Because like, that's your choice. I'm not kidding. Yes. Yes. Wow.

Holy shit, but only in private. While the law permits this, it is illegal for anyone 18 to buy alcohol or drink it in public. Oh, okay. And health experts strongly advise against alcohol, consumption for children. It's only one beer. If I ever get kids, I'm going to like 4K,

8K IMAX film the first time that dumb shit is like, can I have a sip of the drink, the beer? Can I try the bubbly drink? And then I'm like, go on then. Go on. That's like a ride of passage. It is a ride of passage. Yeah, but one of your son is also like, that's a fine pills in the father.

I'm like, oh no. Oh, no. Oh, no. I remember so dissuantly, see it. Because, you know, you drink like Coke and it's bubbling. And then you see your dad's beer and you're like, what is that? How old were you when you first had your beer? Like drank a whole thing? No, just like took a sip.

Oh, I don't know. I was like six or some shit. Six? What's like a sip? What's wrong with a sip? I didn't have that one uncle who was like, guy. Your uncle's like, yeah, fine. I think he just laugh and you'd be like, eh, that tastes is gotting. There's literally nothing wrong with having a sip of beer.

No, I'm just, I'm just shocked that you did it that early. What do you mean? It's funny as far. It's funny as fun. His dumb ass kids. It's funny watching the kid go. You never had that one family member who was just like, I did,

but I did, but I didn't, I don't think I did it until I was like, maybe like 10. Like, like, I was like a lot older, I feel.

I don't think I was even curious to know what it was when I was six. There's no way. It looks like nature of the gods. Yeah, when it's bubbling. You know what it is? It's because my dad's not a beer drinker.

Yeah, gin looks lame. You're like, yeah. When I see like wine, I'm just like, eh. Wine,

I kind of wanted the truth. No, because I had fucking ribina at home. So I was just like, I was just like, I'll just drink it. I remember I asked my mom. I was like, can't try your wine? I remember it was like the most foul tasting thing imaginable to me at that age. I was like, yeah. Do you remember your very first experience getting drunk?

Yeah. Fragmentally. Fraggment. It was that bad for you? It was like at a family wedding, no, family gathering. Yeah. And, you know, everyone was drinking a bunch and they all poured champagne. Yeah.

And then I was like, I think I was like 13 or 14. Maybe I was 13. Yeah. I think I remember like people had left champagne on the tables and I was like, I just went up and I went around doing this. And obviously, because you're like a dumb kid. Yeah. You're like, I don't know what my limit is.

I don't know how long the shit takes to kick in. Yeah. So I must have drank like seven glasses of champagne in the space of like five minutes. Because I was like, let's find out what happens. Because I saw everyone else getting drunk and, you know, when you're a kid, you see like, I completely understand why, why, They stopped doing this. But you know, like, I remember so distinctly, the Pinocchio scene where he gets shit-faced.

On Pleasure Island. That was so sick when I was like, I want to do that. I want to turn it to a donkey. I want to get fucked up and turn into a donkey. Yeah. So, you know, I drank it all. And then I remember very distinctly that I got, it was so very drunk very quickly, obviously. Started throwing up, obviously.

Yeah. And then everyone was making fun of me and laughing at me and doing like, you're so fucking stupid. Why did you do that? Hopefully you learned your lesson bitch Yeah You did I did I did

I remember my first experience getting drunk Yeah Because the one What was your drink of choice Oh well The one thing my parents Always told me

Was If you're gonna get drunk And if you're gonna try alcohol For the first time We don't care As long as you do it with us Right Sure

So based Yeah Which I actually like It taught me like It taught me a lot right? Because I was like, okay, I can let myself go within limits because I don't want to make a fool of myself from my parents. You know, that's so, so it's like just probably like ingrained to me. But I remember it was New Year's Eve. I should say like New Year's Day. And we were celebrating at the restaurants and, you know, everyone was drinking, being merry. How old are you this point? Yeah, how old are you? I don't. Like high school? High school? I think it was 15, 16, you know. It's about the first time I do too.

Yeah. You were very young. Well, I mean, I didn't know. I was an idiot. I just saw this drink. It looked fun. Yeah. And I remember seeing everyone so fucking happy on New Year's Eve and I was like,

Dad, can this be the day that I tried the alcohol? Alcohol, please. And he's like, all right, son. Go ahead. Yeah. And so the first thing, got me fucked up was vodka and coke. Oh my God.

I remember mixing the vodka and mixing the coke. And I'm like, oh my God. It's palatable. I can't even taste the alcohol. And after a few classes in, I definitely couldn't taste the alcohol. And I remember this distinctive memory of, I'm downstairs while the party's still going on. And I'm taking a piss. And I'm like, whoa, I'm wobbling.

Whoa. And I remember looking at myself in the mirror. My first time discovering liquid courage, I remember just as I'm fucking taking this piss wobbling, I'm looking at myself in the mirror and I say out loud, you're fucking awesome. And I was like, what is this feeling? Why did I just do that?

I don't know, but I don't care. Fuck yeah. Dude, that's so funny, just like, my story is very similar, except mine wasn't vodka and coke. Mine was bourbon and coke. Oh my God. Because it was the only thing

that my friend had at his house because it was after like, I don't know if you guys do this in the UK, but like in Australia, when you're in the 10th grade and the 12th grade, we have like this thing called a formal. Which is basically like,

at the end of the year, like the kids gather together and do like some kind of party. And then after the party happens that the school organizes, then, you know, people fuck off and do other things. So we went to this year 10 formal, went back to my friend's place.

It was just like, we have the house to ourselves. You know, we're like chilling. Let's get fucking drunk. And I was like, okay, I guess this is the day where I actually get lit. And then, but obviously, I didn't want to just do like straight vodka shots or like straight whatever shots. I'm like, yeah, no, gross, disgusting. I don't want to drink that. I didn't like beer at the time.

I didn't like beer at the time. Didn't like any of that kind of stuff. So I'm like, yeah, what's the most palatable thing? And I was like, oh, bourbon and coke. I've seen my dad drink that. Looks delicious. Yeah. it. Drink the first one, I was like, hmm, I can still taste the Berber, but it's better than a shot.

Two or three more and I'm just like, oh, this is just Coke, isn't it? The last thing I remember is me just shredding it on guitar hero. That's the last thing I remember. I love those moments when you're like, when you're like first getting drunk and you have this realization, like, fuck, I'm drunk. Yeah. But then something happens that requires you to lock in for like a minute. And you're able to like sober up for this like time dilation moment where you're like, yeah. What's up, man? Yeah, no, I'm being all right.

And then you somehow like, managed to like, you're like, all right. And then you're like back to being like, fuck it afterwards. Have you, uh, that moment when you're out drinking and you're still young, so you're like, you come back home to your parents. Yeah. And they're like, they ask you. So, uh, how was it? How was it?

And you're, that's when you're like, well, actually, it was really, yeah, it was really fun. We had a couple of drinks, you know, nice and calm. It's a great no hour with the fellas. Meanwhile, your vision is just doing this. Like, your eyes are just way... Did you ever go to, like, a party and, like, lie about it? To your parents? I don't think so.

No. What do you mean? That's, like, my only American experience somehow. Like, I told my parents to stay at my friend's house. Yeah. And I went to a party. Did they not let you go to parties? They probably would have.

But for some reason, in my head, I think... I think they'd... I think they, I thought they wouldn't. And then like, you didn't want to take the chance. Right. I really wanted to go to this party. Right. Because I think I'd like to go there or something.

I was like, okay, I want to go. Yeah. So I went. And my mom picked me up. And I immediately folded it. I was like, mom, went to a party. But I did do the thing that I said I was going to do, which was I did stay at his house. Right.

So I did sleep over. That did happen. I just also went to a party and it was the main reason why. Right. And then she was very upset of me. Yeah. I don't think I ever did that because. I don't know. I was a sad version who didn't like parties.

I would go to my friend's house and say like, I'm just going to go hang out with my friend's house. And then I would, you know, do all the pleasures or whatever. Like in high school. I don't think I went to a civil party when I was in high school. If I said I was going to a party, my parents would be fucking celebrating, man. Celebrating. Yeah. I don't think anyone had the funds ability or like willpower to be able to throw a party.

Yes. Because like who the fuck is paying for all this alcohol? It's certainly not the fucking 16-year-olds. Yeah, someone's parent. Yeah. Like someone's parent is wildly responsible or is an absolute maniac. Yeah. They just don't give a shit.

It's like, fuck it up by you like 40 crates. Fuck it. I remember every time I said I was going to a party, my mom and my dad would be like, fuck yeah. You're going out and being social? Oh my God. I thought you were the quiet kid. Hell yeah.

You're like wing manning for you and shit. Take him. Yeah, I think they were scared I was going to be like the The quiet nerdy kid who doesn't go out and doesn't have any social life slur Yeah, which I was growing up so I just assumed my parents would hate anything that I did that was fun Yeah, I was always like, oh, I don't want to tell him yeah Yeah, I mean But some fact because I was the middle kid my parents are so strict with me and my little brother they were like, eh

Yeah, who you want buddy? Some bullshit. What about your older brother? Yeah, I mean, I don't know, though. He was kind of a straight edge. Oh, okay. He was like the perfect brother. So you were the first rebel that limit,

a little bit of a fucking weird kid. Bizarre. They just didn't understand me. Because I wanted to play games and then I wanted to drink. And they're like, what's wrong with him? Why is he like this? But he also does his homework. So like, I don't get it.

Yeah. What does he want to be? I don't understand this kid. Pick a lane. You just fucking figure it out. Is he a nerd or not? Right. Oh, that was a long segment. A British action automatically makes you more attractive.

Ah, yes. I feel very strongly about this one, I will say. Three, two, one. Wait, hold on. God's not ready. Okay. Agree. Disagree. Agreed.

Gone was so right. Yeah, I know, right. No. I absolutely disagree. In the same way that I disagree that an Australian accent automatically makes more attractive. Well, I would disagree with that. I would disagree with that as well. I've never fucking understood that, especially about you bloody Americans who are always like, oh, the Australian accent and the British accent is so attractive.

And I'm like, yeah, that's because you're fucking imagining like, I don't know, Liam Hems. No, they're correct with the British one. No, they're not. I don't think fucking, oh, I love how you fucking going. Nothing is attractive about that. Which is an asterisk. Our British accents. In the same way that a Bogan Australian accent is not attractive.

Right? Like, that's the problem with saying that British accent automatically makes more attractive. How many fucking accents are there in Britain? There's a lot. I mean, I think it's an asterisk. It's some British accents. Yes, some British accents. I agree.

In the same way, that's some Australian accents automatically make you more attractive. Yes. I think half the fucking reasoned out any fucking success on YouTube's because I don't British ones. That's so stupid, but I think it is. Maybe.

I think if I had an American accent, I wouldn't have been... Yeah, you just... Because if you have an American accent, you are just, you have to stand out from neutral. You know, that is just like the neutral. You've got to pop a 20 bomb in Fortnite. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

to start sounding out. British is like, oh, wow, nice skin, buddy. Yeah. That was a bloody, lovely headshot. Although I do think British stocks are down. British accent stocks are mad down. Yeah, it used to be up. But it'll come back.

It'll come back. Yeah, I do. Early YouTube, that was like buying gold. Yeah. That was the main commodity. Unfortunately, the internet has discovered the unattractive British accents. Yeah.

Unfortunately, where before used to be Harry Potter. Yeah, it's like, what do you mean? you all don't sound like you're from Hogwarts. What are you talking about? Game of Thrones. Yeah. All that good kind of jazz, you know?

Yeah, unfortunately not. Yeah. What do you think is the most attractive accent? British? No, other than your own. Mine. Strong disagree. Hmm. Well, there's a lot of Indian people, so clearly it must be working because they all want to keep fucking.

Yeah. I was about to say Chinese. Or Chinese. Chinese accent. It clearly works. It definitely can't be Japanese because nobody's fucking. Totally.

Do you like the British accent? Yeah. Because I don't like the Australian accent. I like the British accent, because I like the different, I love hearing the different accents and being able to recognize like, oh, that person's from there.

And it adds to the character, right? Like, I can tell a bit about someone's character in a TV show automatically based on the accent. Yeah, see, that must be nice because Australia does not have that. Yeah. Yeah, a different question.

If you could give yourself an accent, what accent would you choose? African. African. Why? Why African? It would be a long conversation to explain it every time.

It's like, why does he sound like that? There's a story there. There's a story. Okay, God. If I sounded like fucking Italian, oh, whoop-de-do. Yeah. It's like, oh, he lived in Italy for a little while.

But if, you know, if I had like a just completely different action that does not match my skin color. Let's talk about that. I want to give myself a Boston accent. Boston? I do love like the hard New York accent. Or the New York accent. A tie man with a thick boss,

that must exist. Surely that must. I'm making pad tight. I just think that'll be such a cool combination, you know. The fuck you're talking about. You've got no name plus. What the fuck you're talking about?

What about you, Joe? I don't know. What would be the weirdest accent to have with this face? I'm too racially ambiguous. Where like technically anything works. I would like you to have a Filipino. Filipino accent? You can get away with a Filipino accent.

I could get away with a Filipino accent. Yeah. Would I want a Filipino accent though? Did you be Latino? Latino? Do you think you could pass a Filipino accent? Latino. I mean, people, some people already think I'm Latino. Really? Yeah. When I go to, when I, when I, what part San Jose? Some people think. Some people think I'm Latino. Oh, yes. I take one look at him. He's like,

must be from Tijuana. I think I'm a bit of Colombian. He's like, hey, brother, what part of clubby from? No, no. As I say, my African accent. No, no, no, no. It is not. I love to see with a Chinese accent.

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