Trash Taste Podcast - We Drunk Every Beer in JAPAN | Trash Taste #174
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Hello and welcome to another episode of Trash Tastes.
I'm your host for today, Garn, and I'm joined again,
once again by the boys, baby.
What is that audio glitch?
There's like a human audio glitch.
Did you just buffer?
No, no, it was like in the PS2 disc
when it scratches.
And with that, whoop,
you're gonna be it to another,
there was a trash taste.
We haven't started drinking yet, gone.
That is just the perfect way to describe my brain.
I'm just like, sometimes you just glitch out
and you're like, okay, let me try that again.
So I don't know, what are we called this episode, by the way?
Oh, we drank every beer in Japan.
What it's not because we have a fucking Budweiser right here.
You just went to the store and picked up a bunch.
Yeah, so I have a store near my house that sells like a bunch of like, like, and by a bunch, I mean like 200 different types of canned croft beers.
Wow.
And so you chose a Budwax.
No, okay, I didn't pick that.
I didn't pick that.
That was that was Kai.
That was Kai.
I don't want to start like, name and name.
So how is this $1,400 yen?
That's like $11.
Well, I mean, that's how much you'd pay for a craft beer
anywhere else.
Well, it's called Oil of Angels,
so perhaps it must be good.
Yeah, this one's called Vegas as fuck.
Yeah, I picked out the ones with funny names.
Which definitely has to be Vegas as fuck.
7.7% on a bloody beer.
Yeah.
I swear to God, they're just trying to get people fucked up.
They don't even like flavor.
They're like, you don't want to drink wine?
Okay, well, we're gonna trick you to drinking wine.
Do you want to pick one first?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, I haven't tried any of these before,
but I guess, what's this one?
This is Tesolation, Lone Pine, from Portland, Maine.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, so, yeah, every beer in Japan.
We just got a bunch of American crappy over,
yeah.
I might pick the, I might pick Vegas as fuck.
Oh, sorry, John.
Can I which one do you want?
I'll take this one then.
Tesolation.
You're gonna have the oil of angels?
It's 7.7% I'm gonna be fucked after it.
I mean, these are all like pretty bad.
This is 6.5, so it's not that much.
So much alcohol.
Ah!
You spilled it everything.
All right.
Sure, I'll have the
Oil of Angels.
It's a hazy Indian pale ale.
Oh, it sounds good.
Oil of Angels, the hazy IPA,
brewed with spelt Ryan Oates,
hopped with an...
Wait, what?
What?
This can't be Christ.
Hopped with an ethereal combination
of galaxy, mosaic,
Thereal.
Simcoe and Marillo.
I've never thought...
I've never thought.
I would describe a beer using the work.
It's the color of that.
The aerial.
Jesus, yours is hazy.
Mine's very hazy.
Yeah.
So do you know the difference between Indian pale ale and a pale ale is?
Uh, well, no.
Uh, I think, I guess.
The difference is that it should generally
just less alcohol in a pale ale.
That's pretty much, oh, really?
Same brewing methods.
I know you like, I know you really like hazy.
No, pale ale's are my favorite.
Oh, you like pale al.
Oh, you like PA.
Oh, you like, yeah.
I remember one of you really liked IPAs.
Oh, yeah.
Let's pour it, let's fuck it up.
You know, I actually saw, I actually saw a video.
I know, I saw it too.
Is it the video with like the beer expert?
That's like, you should let the beer foam up, actually.
Everyone's like gaslighting people
into not letting the beer foam up.
To be fair, if you don't wanna be bloated,
it is a better way of drinking beer.
But if you like being bloated
and you want the beer to taste better.
Who wants to be bloated?
Well, okay.
A beer drinkers.
Okay, listen, I do think the beer tastes better
when you don't do this,
because it's more carbonated
and I feel like it has a better flavor.
But if you don't wanna be bloated,
then this is the better way.
All right.
I mean, I'm still not gonna do it.
Listen, I'm just, I'm trying it.
I'm testing it out.
Fucking how, what's the camera?
All right, cheers.
Cheers, cheers, boys.
So we're recording this episode this Tuesday
and it'll be out Saturday.
Yeah, so we thought we'd do a timely episode.
Okay, well, timely in some sense.
Timely in some sense,
and since Connor has another, yet another flight to catch.
I got a flight after this.
To fuck off to America again.
I'm giving you the fucking Vegas as fuck.
I'm going to Vegas.
Because you're going to Vegas.
You know, we haven't had a chance to catch up.
It's been, basically he's been since Boudan's episode, right?
That we've- Well, because yeah, I went on the RV trip,
which felt like a year-long expression.
And that was like a day because that was the day of recording.
So I haven't had a chance to catch up with the boys
since we've been traveling, really.
So we thought, hey, why not try a bunch of Japanese beers?
And just catch up.
How was the RV trip, by the way?
I haven't asked.
Yeah, were you supposed to come, gone?
I don't know.
Bailed on.
He bailed on me.
I know.
Oh really? I did, I did.
See, like just, I just straight off said I can't.
Yeah, you said you can.
To be fair, to be fair, I was like,
I did genuinely want to come.
Because I came on the last one, it was like a lot of fun.
I just had way, I just, you know,
I think the tour put me back way more than I thought.
It was going to.
Absolutely, it did, yeah.
Because I thought in my, in my naive little mind,
then I'm like, I'm gonna be in England
for an extra week and a half after tour.
No one's going to want to meet up
poor hangout. I can just work in my England house.
And I'll catch up to work all then.
JK, when you were in a fucking different country
and your family's like, excuse me,
why are you not meeting?
Why are you not being a good family member?
I feel that's especially true for you
because it's like, I bet when you're back home,
like your 30,000 cousins are just like,
all right, I mean, you gotta make time for all of us.
Yeah, yeah, and also catching up with mates as well.
So I had planned to do a few more working days,
but unfortunately, well, you know,
you gotta make time for the friends and family
and unfortunately, something had to go
and it was the RV trip.
I'm sorry, Connor, I'm sorry.
It's okay, it's fine.
This tastes bad by the way.
This tastes bad?
That doesn't taste good.
Is yours taste good?
It's hazy, right?
It's probably tastes pretty good, I imagine.
Just sweet.
This tastes very hoppy.
Oh, it's very hoppy.
Well, I like that though.
Well, no, I don't think it's,
oh, actually no, it's kind of sweet.
I don't know, try this.
Yeah, can I just don't rate it?
Do you like this one?
Yeah, I think, sorry.
Sometimes the hazy ones go, in America,
some hazy ones go way too hazy.
Oh, that's a bit too sour.
Yeah, it's kind of weird.
Let me try yours.
Yours, this is the kind of client.
Yeah, it's not bad.
Yeah.
It's American IPAs, man.
Sometimes I like them,
but sometimes they're just too much.
It's a hit or a miss.
But yeah, no, it went really well.
I think I improved a lot on the first one.
I tried to, we had like,
last time we had, like,
just one car following us.
This time we had two cars.
So Nabi was always going ahead
and sorting everything out.
so when we got there, we could just jump right into it.
Philo Franco style.
Yeah, but did you have fun?
Yeah, it was really fun.
It was super, it was super.
Oh, I don't give a shit, I don't give a shit
about the technical details.
Tell me about the fun, I missed that on, Connor.
It's like, it's a mix, right?
Logistics, if the logistics go well,
I can have more fun because then everything's going
perfect from my perspective.
But like, yeah, it was very fun.
I was, yeah, it was, it was, it was,
we were in the RV a lot less than last time,
but it was really fun.
I think we had some really fun activities
that I didn't think were gonna be as fun as they were.
Yeah.
Like we did pottery making, that was really fun.
Oh.
Dude, we did so much.
How was the Tuktuk driving?
Dude, that was so fun.
Can't believe you would appropriate my culture like this.
Your own entertainment, Connor.
There's just a dude Nizu who's just like, yeah,
so we shipped it off to Japan, to Thailand,
and they shipped it back in.
And oh my God, that shit was impossible to drive initially.
Yeah.
And it sounded like it was being choked out,
because it was manual as well.
Oh shit, okay.
Did you know that all took some manual?
Yeah.
Oh, I think I've never driven one,
but I, you know, I've seen people drive it.
It's like a rickety shit car that's a manual,
it's like a hybrid bike and a, it's really not fun to drive.
It's not fun to be in as well.
No.
And I was, I was absolute, because it's been so long
because I've driven a manual
and it didn't help that the car was also kind of hard to drive.
Like the accelerator when you pull it down,
it would, and you let go, it would just stay.
Oh.
So when you wanted it to get back down to nothing,
it was very hard to...
That's like physically moving about.
You to keep doing it.
But then also if you did it a little bit over
when it was on zero, it would start revving.
So I was really confused the whole time.
And I was either overreving or under revving constantly
and I was always in the wrong gear.
And the fuck me, the gearbox was so shit on it.
And I couldn't do it.
But then I went first, it sounded like it was dying.
Lutter did it.
It sounded perfect.
And I was like.
So basically you experienced what it was like for me
when I first drove the manual.
I guess.
Just absolute chaos.
We drove the manual in that place,
when we do it at the manual cars that time,
I found it really not bad at all to drive that.
But my god, this took-took was so hard
and I was just not, I guess it's been so long.
But it was really fun.
The took-to-driving actually was a really big,
because I didn't know what we were gonna do.
I just planned.
A Tuk-tuk-driving thing?
Yeah.
We'll figure it out.
We ended up doing like a kind of crazy taxi,
like go and pick up stuff
from the con bein and bring it back.
My God, being in that car on the road
is terrifying because when you would take turns,
It felt like it was gonna flip.
Yeah. It's not fun.
And you could hear it from like two miles away.
It always feels like you need to treat it
like a motorcycle, you know?
Uh, I don't know how the center of gravity is on that fucking vehicle.
Yeah, it's a motorcycle with like a bit of extra width.
Yeah.
And you can have passengers for some reason.
It's a thick motorcycle.
Apparently it's completely road legal as well in Japan.
Like the guy, I mean, obviously it is
because he's offering that service.
But I was like, I can't believe Japan allowed.
Otherwise you want to just committed a crime.
I just can't believe it's allowed on the road.
I just, I was like, what?
Really?
Yeah.
I guess it's got mirrors and indicators.
So that, and seatbelts, so that's normally,
like actually the front didn't have seatbelts
because maybe it's a bike.
Huh.
No, no, no.
We're just like dissecting what a talk to is right now.
Seat belt.
I don't think it did have seatbelt.
No, maybe, I don't know.
I don't think it would.
As a Thai resident, I don't think it would have a seatbelt.
I would be amazed if I had a seatbelt.
On a Tuk-took.
Yeah.
That was, it was interesting.
Went to a zoo.
That was fun.
But you would have came and you would have done canyoning.
Which is really fun.
What's canyoning?
It's where you,
jump off and slide off waterfalls.
Oh, that sounds fun.
And an easy way to get an injury,
but that sounds totally.
Yeah, we had these,
well, it was sucked because the stream,
that one day the signal was really bad.
Yeah, I assumed you were in, like, the forest or something, right?
Yeah, and we normally would have used Starlink to kind of,
as a backup, but because it was, like,
raining and it was really hard to get a satellite for some reason.
I don't come, and there was trees and shit, so
it was not good, but, um, people got to see the end,
which is fun.
But, uh, I was talking to the, there was,
our guys were just like, these two Tibetan dudes.
I know how it's always just two Tibetan dudes
who always end up being the guides
for dangerous things.
I guess you look like Mr. Beast
and I was like I don't think I like Mr. Beast
but I have this conversation with him
and I go
he has told me he was from Tibet
and I was like oh cool cool
and he was like do you know Mount Everest?
I was like yeah I know Mount Everest
he's like some people don't know Mount Everest
and I was like who the fuck doesn't know
Mount Everest was like who didn't know what Mount Everest
was?
Did you tell me who the
this person who didn't know what Mount Everest was.
I don't believe it. He's like, you should do it.
It's fun.
I was like, you mean climb average?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was like, do people die on the trail to Everest?
I was like, isn't it like super overcrowed
and you can't do that a showup?
He's like, well, maybe.
I was like, just do it.
Like a Mr. Bees challenge, you know?
It's just a big hill.
What's the worst thing that happened?
Just keep going up.
I mean, those dudes are built deaf.
Yeah.
They don't care.
Yeah, but they're also,
the majority of them are living like fourth
thousand meters above sea level and they just think that's normal.
So it's like, you know, to them it's just like,
oh, it's just like a slightly bigger hill.
Yeah.
They're like, so built there.
But like born in like 10G gravity or whatever,
like Goku trains in, you know,
and they come back down.
Like one third the oxygen level.
Yeah, this is fine.
They come back down and you're like,
people breathe like this?
Yeah, they go to sea level
and they're just like, it's too much oxygen.
But it's really fun.
And then right after that, I went to go and watch
Tatsuro Yamashta.
I'm so fucking jealous.
I am very jealous of that.
So, yeah.
It was hard getting a ticket.
Yeah, I bet.
I had to enter a lottery to get a ticket,
and then I got a ticket,
but it was assigned to,
and even doing that was a nightmare.
I'm underselling how hard this was.
It's very fucking difficult.
It's such a pan in the ass.
And you need a Japanese phone number.
Yeah.
So if you have a foreign phone number,
which wouldn't accept it.
And it was tied to your ID,
which is a thing apparently in Japan.
They do this, where concert tickets
are tied to your ID.
And when you go in, I thought, okay,
well, that's okay.
They won't check it.
It won't be important.
But no, they checked it at the door.
Your ID matched with your ticket.
Yeah, it's supposed to stop scalpers.
Yeah.
So I entered this lottery, paid $140 to enter this lottery to get a ticket.
I got a ticket.
And then I went to Pog Champs in America in August at some time.
Yep.
And Ludwig was coming, and it happened to be where the day after...
The RV stream ended?
Yeah, it was...
That was the concert.
And I remember, I brought it up to Ludwig.
And then I found it afterwards, it was like his favorite song was by...
you musta.
And so I was like, oh, okay, well,
I'll try and get you a ticket, no promises.
And I just couldn't get him a ticket.
Like I entered the lottery again, couldn't get one,
entered the cancellation thing again, couldn't get one.
And then he was like, you bastard, you betrayed me.
How could you go without me?
I was like, dude, what do you, I can't do anything.
I can't buy, listen, if, this isn't America,
money can't fix every problem.
Yeah, sometimes you just lose a lottery
and that's life here.
Yeah, everything's a gotcha.
Yeah, how was the concert though?
Dude, it was insane.
Yeah, I'm so jealous.
The best concert I think I've ever been to.
Oh shit.
I thought because the man was like 70
that it would, he would sound older
because he did all these songs like 40 years ago.
Yeah? I thought, oh, maybe he's getting old now
and he can't do it.
Bro, no, bro, I hadn't lost a single bit.
It was crazy.
It was three hours.
Is that, am I crazy?
That's long.
That's long.
Just him singing.
That's long.
No, no, no.
Normally a set is like an hour and a half, two hours maybe.
It was just three hours.
And I asked people, I was like,
Is it like a supporting thing before?
Like what time should I go?
And they're like, no, no, in Japan, there's no supporting acts.
I just like to think it was actually Yomashita Tatar just being like,
listen, I have too many bangers.
Yeah.
I can't cut any of them.
I think so.
I think it just has so many good songs that it was impossible, like,
because even some of the songs that I really liked, like,
Someday didn't get played.
And I was like, what the fuck?
Someday is like a bang.
Yeah, it is.
Yeah, I've grown a new appreciation for, you know,
singers, especially in concerts that do a really, really long set
after doing our own hours.
Yeah, after doing our own live show, which is two hours,
and sometimes just fucking somehow arguing about bread on stage
for good one segment of our show, my voice is like,
I could feel the tiredness of my voice
by the end of this show and I'm like, fuck,
singers do it by themselves for two plus hours.
It's crazy. God, God, God, it's almost like they go
through a vocal train.
Yeah.
Well, so, yeah.
Okay, that Joe.
Insane, I know.
I'm sure some of you might know his music right on time,
What else?
I'm blanking now.
Morning glory.
What's that?
What's that one?
Yeah.
It's one of the songs.
What's that one?
The Christmas one.
Shine.
Shine is my favorite.
Yeah, shine's a great one.
He did the Christmas one
that's really popular as well.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Everyone knows the song in Japan.
It was just pretty good, but it was like,
it was kind of nuts.
I've never been in a, I thought, man,
three hours a long time.
And I will admit, an hour and half in,
I was like, kind of dozing out at one point
because I was like, it was like,
it was like a sort of really long song,
like a ballad.
and I don't really care about his ballad songs that much,
because I remember, I'm a fake fan.
It was like nine, it was like a nine minute song.
Yeah.
And there's what, dude, it was, it was so weird
because like I've never been to a concert
where he was just like, I don't know if he was ad-libbing or what,
like halfway through his songs, he would just start ad-libbing.
Yeah.
In a really cool way.
It was really, really fun.
And there was so many points where he would just be like,
all right, sax solo time for like a minute.
And the dude would go for a sax solo, and it was just so fucking,
And hype.
Yeah, hell yeah.
They would just tear it up for a minute.
That's a real artist when you can like switch it up
from like the studio version and it slaps just as hard,
if not sometimes harder.
Yeah, cause like every, I think half the songs at some point,
he would just go on like a riff or do something else.
That was really cool.
Yeah, it was like, oh my God, this is like extended solos and shit.
Yeah, they had like a whole like a set that was moving as well
and like, it was really cool.
And yeah, dude, it was just so cool.
I just like, especially right on time, right on time was so good.
because it was like, oh, he went off stage,
he didn't sing it, and then he came back,
and everyone was like, oh my God,
which obviously was gonna happen.
How big was this concert?
Like, was it pretty big or was it kind of low-key?
Yeah, it was like, 4,000 capacity.
Oh, yeah, yeah, that's big.
It was really strange because it was like,
no one, it was like, I think also I saw an article
that was like he had shouted at someone mid-song
and stopped singing because they were like singing along
in the audience.
He was like, shut the fuck up.
This is my song.
This is my moment.
So it's like, picture it.
It's like the most biggest bangers of your life,
dead silent.
No one is allowed to,
no one's allowed to move.
No one is allowed to dance,
no one is allowed to take pictures,
which I agree with, it's not.
But like no one is allowed to do anything
until you are signaled to clap.
And then you can start, everyone can clap together like this.
And then finally like two hour,
two and a half hours in,
they finally let you all stand up.
And then everyone kind of starts doing
like that kind of like half dance for the young.
Oh, like the aunt at a wedding dance.
Oh yeah.
Dude, I rock up to this concert, everyone's 60.
Oh yeah. Oh, okay.
Everyone is old.
No other foreigners as well.
I couldn't find a single other foreigner.
It was just me surrounded by a bunch of old people,
which I was happy with.
Yeah.
It was just very interesting because I felt like it was,
when you watch those like North Korean crowds,
kind of felt like that, whereas like,
we're not allowed to express anything
until you are told to start clapping and singing.
Like that's a big ask for that kind of music as well, right?
Because if it was like, like,
when we went to the Sigler concert,
It makes sense that we were like sitting and still
because that was the vibe of the music.
And it's like even if you wanted to sing along,
ain't no one in that crowd knows Icelandic, right?
So it's like you can't sing along even if you know how it goes.
So like that makes sense, but like,
Yomashah music is made for singing and dancing too.
So the fact that they were like, yeah, so enjoy the concert.
By the way, you're not allowed to express any fun whatsoever
until we tell you to.
It's a bit weird.
Yeah, that was the only thing that I kind of
I guess, I mean, I guess for some other people,
they, maybe in Japan as well,
they appreciate that they can just have that, like,
experience not having to worry about any other,
like, sensory, like, distractions.
I mean, sure.
But there was one Japanese dude, one brave man down in the front.
Right.
He was just going, like, full, like,
the Carlton dance in the front, like,
he was going crazy.
Like, no one else was dancing.
And I was like, the balls on this man to do it.
I respect it.
I respect it.
Hell yeah.
There's always just, dude, it was such an amazing,
I've already decided,
because apparently he does it every single year.
He does like a four month long tour
every single year in Japan.
So I'm definitely going back if he does it again.
Well, I mean, we should all try and go next year.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, fun fact, you can't buy tickets in more than groups of two.
Oh, awesome.
So you can only apply in groups of two.
Oh, sorry, gone, you're gonna have to stay behind.
And so let's say, no, no, so we can all apply as groups of two.
But if one of the you wins lottery, the other group, can't.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, me and Joe might get tickets, if you might not.
Or we all might get tickets and we can also next to each other.
Me and Joe will be next to each other,
but you won't be next to you.
Yeah.
This is like insane.
Like I just don't understand
how there's not a better way.
That's weird because every concert
I've been to in Japan where it's like a lottery system,
it's always, the max is always for.
Really, this one was two?
That's weird, I've never heard of two.
Because I'm saying, I'm saying when I applied
for Taylor Swift tickets, which I'm seeing Taylor Swift in February,
by the way, in Japan, by the way,
which is like out of left field, but did it cause
Sydney's mom is like a massive...
Would you go out of the lottery?
You enter the lottery?
Yeah, we had to enter the lottery.
And somehow we won on like Taylor Swift tickets as well.
You can also like mass purchase lotteries,
but the problem is if you win all like four or five,
you already paid the deposit.
They just take your money.
Yeah.
So it's a huge cap.
So that's when you have to like start ringing up people,
being like, hey, I got tickets.
You want to-
That's the thing though.
That's why I didn't get any extra tickets,
because you had to sign everyone up
with the full IDs and mobile numbers.
And if you won on that lottery ticket
with that ID, you won,
We're not allowed to change it.
That is so weird.
I've never heard of that.
I hate that they did this because I feel like, yes, scalping is a huge issue and there
needs to be sank down about it and this is definitely one way of combating it.
But this would also be probably we can make it equally as convoluted and complicated.
We can make it impossible, but there should be a way that you can transfer the ticket if you
have a genuine reason to someone else.
Make it really, really difficult so scalping becomes a pain in the ass.
Yeah.
Because scalping is fucking asshole move.
And that needs to like,
I don't know how you combat it
without going through this much.
But yeah, but the fact that I have like three mates,
I can't go to a concert and sit next to all of us.
It's like, fuck, like that's, I mean,
you sacrifice the experience
and it's because of the fucking scalpers
at the end of the day, unfortunately.
But I mean, I feel like two is a little bit of a low number.
Should be at least four.
It should be in America's method of combating now.
They've made it so that if you,
you make over, I think it was like,
it wasn't a lot, it was like maybe a thousand
or less than a thousand dollars.
If you make over a thousand dollars
selling tickets, you get taxed quite a lot.
Okay, now that's being punished by the IRS,
the ultimate, the ultimate punishment.
The ultimate mood killer.
Yeah, they realized the ticket master was gonna be a
enemy of my enemy is my friend actually.
Is this one answer you can count on the,
like to smack down on a group of people being shit,
it's the tax man.
Yeah.
They just, they come down.
Sometimes good, sometimes bad.
Normally bad, but occasionally they ever win.
Was that the first concert you'd ever been to in Japan?
Yeah.
I'd been to really small concerts,
but they were all like friends.
Or he was never like a really big one,
never a Japanese artist,
but I wanna go to more city pop ones, it'd be fun.
Yeah, hell yeah.
Like I wanna go see Anri live, that'd be fun.
Or Maroichi, uh, Takesha.
Yeah, she's Takesha now, she's married to Tatech.
That'd be fun to watch.
Yeah. She's got bangers too.
Yeah, absolutely.
But I mean, Tats was because so many bangers back to back.
He's gonna stop.
You know something's a banger when Connor is getting
dis-passionate about beeps and boops.
Yeah, I know, I know.
Well, you listen to the, see, we released the right on time album,
and it's literally just like all his bangers,
and it's just like 50 minutes of just non-stop bangers.
Yeah, absolutely.
So good.
I've been trying to get that vinyl for ages now,
and like the cheapest I found it for is like $500.
Wait, oh, the original?
Oh, because they have the re-release one.
Yeah, but I want the original.
That'd be impossible for it.
Yeah.
And I just can't find it.
And when I have found it, it's like,
would you like to pay $2,000 for an LP?
I'm like, no.
Also, mid-song, because I guess this is a thing in Japan.
He would just talk a bunch.
Oh, yeah, that is a thing in Japan.
Yeah, MC.
They do a bunch of talking.
And a bunch of people would laugh occasionally,
but the one that got like the biggest shock reaction,
I guess this is just Japan thing.
At one point he goes, yes, I haven't drank in two years,
and everyone goes,
and I was like, they never reacted.
The whole crowd.
gasped and I've never seen anything like this in Japan.
I swear some like, some like,
I guess I've been to in Japan
with like a primarily Japanese audience.
Like when the artist starts emceeing
and like there's an audience reaction,
it just sounds like a sitcom.
It was like mostly like laughs.
And it was pretty, and he was talking about like
just how he's old.
That was his main joke that he kept saying.
And he was like, I don't know why people look,
I don't know why there's young people here.
I didn't listen to old people when I was young.
Oh, you just called you out.
Yeah.
He saw you and he was just like,
didn't have foreigners were here as well.
Yeah, yeah, so he's making fun of some of the laws
that Japan was trying to make.
It was very, I'm sure, I'm sure if they could
translate, everyone, we're going based,
yeah, very based at this.
But that was very interesting.
I guess it was the older demographic,
all people in Japan, all old people in Japan drink.
Yeah.
I think I've met a single person in Japan
over the age of 50 that doesn't drink.
My granddad.
Really?
Damn.
He never drank.
Damn, but it's so rare in Japan.
But he smoked like seven
Okay, okay.
We all got advice.
Choose one.
I reckon he's a,
he's a pretty a stoner
that was born in the wrong country.
I don't know about that.
He loved his melboro,
as for sure.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I've only been to a few concerts in Japan,
but they all pretty much follow that formula,
especially if it's a Japanese artist.
It's very different from like the,
kind of like,
they always have a story behind like every,
after every song,
or proceeding like every song,
about a little monologue
about something going on their lives.
When I wrote this song,
I was 30 years old
and I was at a turning point in my life.
It's always some shit like that.
And I'm just like, that's cool and all,
but like, just, you know, it's fine.
Like, I get the law and it's like,
it's sentimental and it's cool and stuff like that.
But it's like, after a while,
you go to enough concerts and it's like,
oh, let me guess.
Yeah.
You wrote this song
when it was a turning point in your life.
All right, cool.
Near the end of the show
that was like,
merch presentation live, where like some guy kept handing like,
like a, like he was on an easel,
like merch kept coming out on a stand.
It was very funny.
It was very Japanese.
It was, and here we have Exhibit A, merch number one,
please go buy it.
Yeah.
And then he was just, it's very funny.
I love like the dichotomy between like a Japanese artist
in Japan and how they do their concerts versus a Western band
or artist because like, you know,
because when I went to go see the pillows,
it was very similar whereas like, you know,
like, because it was also like, you know,
during like the beginning of COVID as well.
So it's like you're not allowed to like cheer,
you're not allowed to like take videos and photos,
which is one that's very rare.
I'm sure you weren't allowed to take videos and photos.
Yeah, no, I wanted this just take one little picture.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The set was so cool.
Yeah, but there was a dude literally right behind me.
He would have, he would have clapped me.
Yeah, exactly.
And it's like, and you know, there's always like some emceeing segments
and all that, like, it's kind of formulaic.
And people are like, when I went to go see
like bad religion at the punk spring, uh,
there was a huge sign at the beginning of the gig
that was just like, no crowd surfing.
You know, and like no moshing.
There was like two big signs that were just like that.
Did it stop it?
Yeah. Bad religion came out and they were like,
fuck these signs.
Start moshing, start crowd surfing right now.
Fuck the police.
Oh my God.
And then immediately Japanese people were like,
well, I mean, if they say so,
three dudes start crowd surfing.
I'm just like, there we go, that's what's up.
That's the way to go.
There's how you go to punk concerts.
It's not in the contract.
Yeah.
Like they just didn't give a fuck.
Yeah.
Meanwhile, I'm really hoping that when I go see
the Tennis Swift concert,
that she does that thing about when she introduces the song.
I haven't seen it before until it started blowing up on TikTok,
but she has like this really cheesy kind of like introduction
to every song.
You know those times when you see a boy
and you just think to yourself, wow,
he's gonna be trouble and then trouble starts playing.
Is that what she does?
That's what she does.
That's great.
At the beginning of every single Taylor Swift concert,
she's like, my name is Taylor Swift and I was born in 1980,
1989 and everyone's like, yeah.
Is this real?
It's real.
There's so many TikToks of it.
It's so funny.
I did not know how big of a deal Taylor.
Like I knew she was a big deal, but I didn't know how big of a deal it was to go to like one of her live concerts until.
Oh yeah.
Until like we somehow managed to get tickets, you know, for City's mom's birthday.
And only when I started telling people that are like, what?
You got ticket?
You gotta see Taylor Swift live?
Because I saw there was an article that like, like,
When she goes to a city to do a concert,
it has like such a big economic effect on that city.
It's almost like the Super Bowl going to that city,
which is-
Well, this current like tour that she's on right now,
it's like spanning for like a year and a half.
And it's considered to be one of the biggest
and most lucrative tours ever in the music industry.
Like, I can't imagine.
I just, what is she doing, man?
She's fucking scrooge McDucking, like, everything.
Like, she's drowning in money.
I guess it's weird,
because I knew she was really popular,
but it kind of felt like this year in particular,
it just became crazy.
Yeah, I don't know why.
Maybe the tour.
Maybe it's the tour.
Maybe it's the tour, but it's also because like,
Taylor Swift's fans are like insane.
Come on, man, don't disrespect them.
Call them Swifties.
Okay, Swifties,
Swifties.
I guess you can talk about this
because Sydney's mom is the head of the Swifty Council.
She is literally like the head of the Swifty Council
in her like local area.
Like, you know how basically, you know how like most,
Most places have like a neighborhood watch or something,
you know.
They have the Swiftie watch.
They have the Swiftie watch.
And she basically runs that.
She was such a big like Swiftie that,
that there was like some ticket controversy
or some ticket issues in like the America tour
that was going on there.
The ticket master thing, right?
Yeah.
And you know, news outlets were doing reports on it.
And one of the people they contacted was Sidney's mom.
And live just now, we have the representative of the Swifty community here in Wisconsin.
Yeah.
It's just Sydney's mom.
So, you know, Sydney's had her 15 minutes of fame, but she's never been on national TV before.
Because her mom's now been on national TV as Swifty.
So that is now her title.
But yeah, it's like she tells me stories about just like all of like the Taylor Swift fans like worldwide.
doing meetups and no matter where she goes in the world,
she always has like people that she can hit up
because there are Swifties all over the world
that she can kind of do a meetup with.
And I'm like, this is, this is an insane network right now.
It's crazy.
It's like it's almost, it's dare I say, almost cultish.
It is a little bit.
It is kind of scary, you know, when you're like,
you know, because like personally like,
I think Taylor Swift was just okay.
Like she's made some hits.
A lot of her stuff I think is just,
kind of mid, but like, goddamn, if I said that to a,
I'd be scared to say that to a Swifty,
even if I know they might be cool with me.
Like, which era did you listen to?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like, oh yeah, I like a couple of songs
and then they'd be like, name all of them, you know?
Like I know, I know that if I, you know,
went up to Sidney's mom and I was just like,
you know, full respect to Taylor Swift,
I just think she's okay.
You know, if I said anything else,
I know Sydney's mom be cool with it.
Yeah, Sydney's mom is a lovely, lovely person.
She wouldn't say anything.
It would just like, she'd just probably die inside
I'm just jealous.
I wish I was that passionate about something.
I am too, you know.
I wish I was a fan of something like that.
But I just don't get like that.
One thing I've never understood about concerts,
is like what is the point of oncores?
What? I guess I think it was probably a cool thing at once
and now it's just expected, so I think it's lost its job.
Yeah, as now that it's expected that you put
like your cooler song in the encore, then I'm like, well,
we all know it's coming.
We all know you're going off stage here.
Although I will say I recently went to a concert of this like
American musician Mike Kinsella, who I really, really like.
And he had his like new band that he was touring with in Japan.
And I got tickets to go see it because I fucking love Mike Kinsella.
And they've only ever released one album, right?
So it's like very new band, but I'm like, cool, I'll go wash them.
They basically did all of their, you know, songs that they've released up until that point.
And they started walking off.
Naturally, everyone was like, encore, encore,
Mike comes back and he just goes on the mic and he's like,
we don't have any songs left.
And then he just leaves.
And I'm just like, you know what?
I respect that.
It's like, it's like,
Uno reverse cut on the encore.
It's like, you know, that's refreshing.
I feel like it's why do people fucking
Sabre a champagne?
Why they slap?
It was just tradition, right?
People just do it because we just did it.
Have you ever say, I wanna,
I don't know, saber or champagne.
I want a Sabre Champagne.
I've saved it a champagne.
Did you do it right?
Uh, no.
Okay.
Well, wait, wait, what did you use?
You can ruin the whole champagne?
Like a, like, a proper saber?
Like a proper saber or like a kitchen knife?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I used like a proper saber that was like this big.
I did it with Chad when I was in Melbourne.
Of course it was.
Okay, now now that makes sense.
And I did it and but it was like the,
I guess not the correct way to do it.
Cause like, did it just explode?
No, no, no, no, no.
It was it was the proper ways that, you know,
the cork is supposed to like perfectly fly off.
No, no, no, no, no.
The glass.
The glass person just perfectly snap off.
Yeah.
Oh, then I did do it right.
It was perfectly flat.
It was like kind of like at an angle.
So like, okay.
Okay.
Was it a clean cut is what we're asking?
The risk is that the glass shards can go in the champagne
as well as just smashing the entire bottle.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But normally you just fucking,
it's just, shit.
Well, I mean, it's a lot harder than that,
but generally, yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, it's just-
Cable to a champagne bottle.
I couldn't believe it until-
That much of an achievement.
What's just such a fucking rare thing to do?
Really?
Yeah, it's like fencing.
Do you know anyone who fences?
No.
Yeah, right?
I don't know, a single person who's fenced.
But you can say that about like most Olympic sports.
Okay.
Okay, okay, name is four.
Huh?
Equestrian.
I don't know if someone who's a question.
Fuck off, you do.
I don't know anyone who's fenced.
Who do you know who's an equestrian?
I mean, I lived around farms and shit,
so people did that shit.
What, on sheep?
On horses.
Just get on your ram, just fucking,
drop the fence.
I don't know, see, I'm convinced fencing is a lie.
I'm not about a single person who's fenced.
What do you mean?
I think it's a conspiracy.
What do you mean?
It's a conspiracy created by the Olympic Committee.
I don't think it exists.
I think they just find five dudes
who are willing to do it and they tell us it's a real thing,
okay, fencing's real, let's keep it exciting.
I think we should take the armor off in fencing.
Just take the armor off and just go back to allwood school.
Just let them slaughter each other.
What did the need like the little...
Well, the original Greek, sorry,
the original Olympics way way back had a fight to the death.
So that was, we should have that.
Yeah, we should bring that back.
Yeah, bring that back.
Do you think e-sports should be in Olympics?
No.
No.
from me joking about fencing not being real.
No, they did try, wait,
talking about the real.
They did try this and it failed miserably.
Yeah, it did fail.
Wait, what?
I believe so. Yes.
Yeah.
Olympic.
When?
Like last year, I remember it was a whole funny thing.
In Japan?
Yeah. No, not in Japan in general.
Just in general.
Oh. Like the Winter Olympics?
Wait, what?
Well, because last year was the Winter Olympics, right?
No, no, like the, like, I think the previous Olympics
that happened.
Oh.
Like I, yeah, there's something, some,
could you look this up, car?
Yeah, something happened last year
where they did something and it was a mess.
They fucked it all up.
Yeah. What were they playing?
I don't know, this is the problem with gaming, right?
Is that there's only a few games
that have stuck around long enough
to really be like, I guess have that Olympic feel to them
of like, a thing we all know.
I just can't imagine being like, all right,
so here's the swimming and here's the gymnastics.
And then there's quake.
There's no games that feel.
Olympic-y, you know what I mean?
That's my- Mario tennis.
Get the fuck out, Joey.
They can play it right after the tennis.
I mean, they did, the only people who I think of,
the biggest example I think of something similar
was Overwatch did their global Overwatch competition
where it was country-based.
Yeah.
It was different from the league.
It was just purely like, whose country's the best?
Well, no, because league is in the Asia games,
which is kind of like, kind of like,
like kind of like the Olympics,
but just for like the Asian countries
and that's split up by countries as well.
Well, you know, Faker doesn't have to enroll
for the military anymore.
Yeah, I saw that, yeah.
It's because he won a gold medal
at the Asia Games.
I love how BTS couldn't get an exemption
from serving in the military,
but Faker could.
I'm not trying to say that Faker has contributed
more to society, I'm just saying like,
BTS couldn't get it.
Yeah, and it's because Faker, he won
like the Korean team won the gold medal.
for the Asia games.
All they had to do is basically beat China
and they were basically surefire to win.
So, yeah.
Can't wait for League of Legends finals this year.
I'm so stoked.
So, okay, going back on Tommy though,
because who gives us fuck.
What is, what sport or what game would be the most suitable
for an Olympics situation?
Super Smash Bros.
Well, no, because America would just win.
This is the problem with a lot of e-sports
is that like America just crushes in so many of them
except for certain games.
Yeah.
Like fighting games is like dominated by mainly Americans,
but there are some of Europeans obviously
who are like Leffin or whatever
or there's some Japanese people who are pretty good at them in certain games.
Yeah. A lot of games are dominated by just America.
What about we sports?
No, Jerry. No.
Why not? It's got fucking sports in the name.
Oh, Nintendo would ruin stuff somehow.
It'd be like, oh, we're doing guys are doing Smash Bros.
To save dying kids, it turns like, we've already put them down.
Stop, stop it.
Shut down.
We whacked them over our head with a copy of Smash Bros.
It's just like the tenter would find a way.
Because someone owns it, right?
Why would we want to play watch Wii Sports in the Olympics
when we have all of the sports that are in Wii Sports actually represented?
You can just say that about e-sports in general, then.
Oh, I'm sorry, Joey.
Name me a real life equivalent to League of Legends.
Yeah, it's true.
There shouldn't be one.
That's the point.
That shouldn't be one.
Counter strike other than terrorism.
Which isn't rank.
We don't have ranked terrorism.
We don't want to talk about counter strike, Jay.
Come on.
Well, it's counter time two now.
Yeah, C.S.
Kind of try two, you know.
Okay, yeah, that's what we don't want
to real life equivalent of.
But yeah, I mean, we sports,
okay, here's, it's like,
should like things like bowling and darts
be part of the Olympics?
Yeah.
I think so.
Yeah.
Are they already?
They're not, right?
I don't know.
No, they have their own like championships.
America will win bowling though.
And don't.
Yeah, no, no, no.
UK or some European countries.
Oh, really? I have no idea.
Unless they can't drink while performing,
in which case the UK just gets nuffed to,
enough to the ground.
So you can not take performance enhancing drugs
and the British are like, fuck!
I saw a tweet that was, um,
it was like, let's do like an Olympic Games,
but where everyone is allowed to take as many drugs as they want.
Like let's get the best performing human
with everything that we can give them.
Just absolutely max out all stats.
Are you not curious how fast a man could run
if he is full access to drugs?
If they're gonna do it, let's just make a league for it.
Sure. What is it? Like a speed run strap?
Yeah. Yeah.
Can you imagine how fast Hussein Bolt will be
when he takes fucking cocaine?
We have like glitchless.
We have glitchless.
The kind of drugs that improve running,
I'm pretty sure, Joe.
We have like glitchless categories in games.
Why don't we have like drug categories
and clean categories?
That's a great idea.
What would we be promoting in our corner?
What would we be promoting that drugs
in pants?
All these vape and smoking companies
would love such a sponsor, I'm sure.
I'd argue to make more money.
More leadership.
Is it legal to take weed before,
like, professional eaters go into like an eating contest?
That's a fantastic idea.
If they're not doing that, they should.
Does that count as a performance
enhancing drug at that one?
Because you're on the munchies, bro,
and you're like, I can eat 1.5 times the average right now.
Yeah, they should.
If there isn't like an American,
like if Matt Stoney isn't doing that,
then I'm impressed.
He's called Matt Stoney, so maybe there's,
maybe there's in the name.
Yeah, it's right in the name.
We've figured out your trick, Matt.
Oh, how was South Africa, by the way?
Oh, dude, it was sick as fuck.
Like, like, because I've always just wanted to go to Africa
just because it's like, one, it's a continent
that you just like never, well, I don't know anyone else around me
that has been there before.
It's just, I don't know, it's just like,
I always forget how actually massive Africa is.
How can you forget that?
It's fucking huge.
Well, because, like, you know, most like regular wall maps
that you look at it, Africa is like condensed
because of like, you know, the perspective thing and everything.
Because of like the map type, you know, Joey.
But the standard map type that everyone knows
and has seen before, like Africa looks a lot smaller
than it actually is because like, you know,
it took us, well for one, it took us 20 hours to get there
by flight, which is like Australia.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. But, um, no, it was really, really cool.
Um, this convention in Johannesburg,
easily the best convention I've ever been to.
Wow. Oh shit.
Like the organization was absolutely like top notch.
Like every single guest got their own security,
not just within the convention,
but even outside the convention,
because Johannesburg is the crime capital of South Africa.
Right, yeah, so it's pretty dangerous.
So they were like, we'll give you a security for like 24-7.
So that was sick as fuck and like, just like,
it was massive as well.
It was 80,000 people.
Yeah, like I thought like, oh, it's not even the capital
of South Africa, right?
It's in the fucking one of the most dangerous cities
in South Africa.
And it's a Comic-Con.
So I was just like, it's not gonna be that big.
They were like, yeah, it's 80,000 people.
When you went, a lot of the comments were like,
please be safe.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
And that was freaking me and Akiy out,
just being like, what's gonna happen?
But we were okay.
And like that convention was just so, so cool.
Like they had like, some of the stuff
they were selling there was just so weird,
but they were like treating it like it was normal.
Like that?
They were straight up selling weed at this convention.
What?
Yeah.
Is it legal?
Yeah, apparently.
And there was just like weed, like dispensary companies
that was just like selling weed at this convention.
I'm like, you guys like, okay?
Like this, this children walking around.
What the hell?
And it wasn't even like behind a curtain or anything.
It was like in the middle of like the entertainment area.
But like, yeah, that, that convention was easily
one of the coolest conventions I've ever been to.
Yeah.
So well done South Africa, you did good.
And then the safari shit that we did outside was pretty dope as well.
We went on like a shoot fun.
Yeah, like when you think of like a safari,
like you think of like kind of the caged like trucks
and you walk through and it's like,
or you drive through and you know,
you see the lions and all that kind of shit.
That one was cool, but I think the best way
to experience Safari now that I know is going on a quad bike.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, but like obviously they're not gonna let you
into like the lion enclosure on a quad bike.
So see if Joey survived.
It's in the line enclosure.
Yeah, Safari speed run.
Yeah.
So emptied his tank.
But like it was really cool because like,
you go into this enclosure on a quad bike,
you know, you can get really fucking close
to like Wildebeest and, like,
Like, we all, I almost got kicked in the head
by wild draft, so that was pretty fun.
Yeah.
Wait, what?
So we were, we were on a quad, right?
And I'm just like, you know, just kind of.
Oh, me, let me get your snack first.
Yeah, you know, I was just kind of cruising through,
you know, going at like a slow speed.
It's like instant death, isn't it?
Yeah, it was pretty scary.
But like, I was, I was just, you know,
I was driving the thing and Aki was on the back of the quad.
And I was just kind of going slowly looking around,
being like, all right, let's see where the animals are.
All of a sudden, Arki was like,
Joey turned around right now.
And I was like,
what and I look back and like literally this distance,
there's a giraffe's face right here and it just came out a note.
Like these motherfuckers are silent killers.
He just came up right behind me, literally this far away.
And I just fucking floored it.
And the guy was like, yeah, that was very close.
From what I could see, he was very agitated
and if you had stayed there for enough time,
he would have kicked you.
And I'm like, can that kill you?
And the African guy just laughed.
It was just like, ha ha ha.
I was like, all right, say less.
But yeah, I would definitely recommend.
We're probably gonna go back next year.
Oh, shit, nice.
Yeah, because there's another one in Cape Town,
which is like the bigger convention,
and we've already been invited back.
Nice.
That's the bigger convention?
That's the bigger convention.
And I'm pretty excited
because that's where they filmed
the One Piece live action.
So it's like real life One Piece,
I get the experience,
and that's pretty cool as a One Piece fan.
Yeah, sucks.
What did you do?
Backyard buzz.
It's a honey.
wheat ale and it doesn't taste good.
Really?
Someone used to tell them that just because you add honey
doesn't mean it tastes good.
Hey, don't blame me, I just randomly picked.
No, I know.
I used to like honey things, but now after growing older,
it's just a lot of sugar, isn't it?
I mean, there's a thing with beers, right?
You're trying to add all this bullshit to it
and it's like, bro, we had like,
we had like so minimal ingredients for so long.
Yeah.
If you can't make something good after generations,
people have made a beer taste good with barely anything,
any added ingredients?
What are you doing?
Yeah, yeah.
So don't add galaxies or shit to your beer.
Doesn't taste good.
This one, yeah, it's not very good either.
It's like, we perfected the formula like centuries ago.
We added orange.
No, don't have fucking orange to beer.
Just let it fucking cook.
Do you like fruit-based beers?
No.
No, a beer shouldn't have fruit in it.
I agree.
I was trying to think of a counter-argument,
but I was trying to process that.
I'm like, yeah.
You shouldn't have beer like fruit to beer.
I allow it for ciders.
Listen, like you can add it if there's a group of people
who don't like taste normal beer and they want fruit,
that's fine, yeah, but for me, like I like to just
the normal bitter, horrible beer taste.
I love that, its flavor.
And so when they add like fruits and shit,
I'm like, man, I should, I don't want to drink this.
Fair enough.
I don't know why I went for the honey wine.
I thought, well, maybe it might be good.
All right, what beer should have next?
Let me see.
Oh, this one's so nice.
There's a one that starts with a bee over there
that you should make a try.
There's a one that starts with a bee right there
You should probably try out.
The beer?
The Korean is a mocki.
Oh, Makkiti.
What's the bee?
What are you talking about?
I've tried Budweiser, Joey.
Joey?
It's our favorite beer, according to the trash taste law.
Let me try a juicy West from Colorado.
Ooh. Christ.
You don't have to finish this fine.
Yeah. I feel like I should there.
We don't have many beers.
Thanks we do.
No, you can try it on some of the old ones.
Do you wanna try this one?
See if you like it.
Let me have a sip of it.
Yeah, I can have a sip of it.
I just don't think it tastes good.
Oh, the aftertaste.
It's just kind of not good.
It's a bit watered down.
Yeah.
That's right.
I guess this is gonna be the episodes.
We're just trying the beers, the beeru's.
Oh, that tastes awful.
It's just like, what is the honey doing?
I can't even taste the honey.
There's no kick to it at the end.
All right, well, this one, what is this?
Vol-Dum, double multer das original Mazen B
That's exactly.
Lupus amalgots and nuggets.
What?
Nugget.
The German's always the funniest when you read it.
You can't understand it.
Could you open this one for me there?
Let's see it.
The 7% that'd be, Christ.
How do you?
I gotta learn that.
It's, it's literally physics.
You just, you know, I know, and I know that every time you do this,
you get amazed.
You explain it with logic, but in practice I can not do it.
Every time we, like, watch you on camera,
I get amazed by it.
All the Germans are like, oh, every German
can do this by the age of four.
What are you doing?
You got to preschool and open our own beers.
Well, did you need someone to open the bottles
on your RV trip?
Well, Ludwig just hammered it against anything you could find.
I was like, what are you doing?
I had carried a bottle opener on these times of purpose.
So this is from Japan.
No, is it?
No, it's not.
You have to say it, otherwise the title is clicked.
Yeah.
We tried every beer from Japan.
I bought it from Caldie.
Oh, we bought it in Japan.
Doesn't say where it's from, does it?
On the back.
Spain.
Never had a good beer from Spain.
Actually, Estella's okay.
That's what it's called, right?
That's Spain.
I think that's Spain, Spanish.
What do you guys think of cider?
Cider?
Yeah, I'm not a big fan.
I like cider.
I think, I thought.
I thought I used to be a fan and as I've grown older,
I'm like, I think I'm, I think I'm good actually.
It's hard for me to just drink,
because like, you know, when I'm drinking beer, the intention
is that like, okay, maybe I'll have one
but like if I'm having like a long night.
Yeah. I'll be drinking like four beers, right?
That's a lot of sweet drink to consume for me.
Well, that's why I can only drink dry siders now.
Like the dry, because like the sweet, yeah,
because the sweetest cider is like,
it might be nice to like maybe start off,
but like I can't have a whole night with sweet ciders.
Also like, if you really have like the tree
traditional cider.
So like I remember when I was in,
when I was in Bristol uni,
we'd have like some specialist cider places.
And you know, I was like, cool,
let's try some traditional cider.
Traditional cider lit like that,
that is made like the traditional way.
Some of them just smell like feet.
Like isn't like, I don't know,
I don't know what the traditional way
to make cider is, but I'm pretty sure
they just left some apples in a fucking barrel for months
and just let them fombed down with like,
your beer for it.
It's probably why it smells like feet.
Just bare feet just crushing these apples down.
That wasn't even the worst part.
Some of them were just like lukewarm.
You know, some of them...
In the UK, I think you'd often get served
pretty warm beers and ciders.
Yeah.
It's generally a bit warm.
I don't understand warm beers.
Well, so, okay, not warm, sorry,
but like it's not, I wouldn't describe it.
That is not a hot take, Joey.
I know it's not a hot take.
I just don't get it.
I've had it before and I'm just like,
why?
I think the actual...
Unchilled.
I'm in a...
Paul Moonan's gonna fact-check this.
I'm pretty sure the idea is,
is that warm beer is much easier to drink more of
than a colder beer.
Hold on, I'm just gonna look at the window real quick
just, I'm gonna make sure.
Maybe I'm just, if I was a bar owner,
I want people to drink more beer.
I just, I don't think people need convincing
in the UK to drink more beer.
That's true.
Yeah.
Is sure.
Is we fact-chat in this?
Sure.
Just for the flavor.
Flavor.
Okay.
flavor. I'm pretty sure that like if the alcohol is
warmer, doesn't it go to your head quicker?
Like it gets in your blood.
You're just making shit up now.
No, no, I'm sorry to.
I'm pretty sure if the beer or alcohol is
warmer or room temp, it gets in your bloodstream quicker
than it does if it's cold.
So what you're saying is like hot wine
will get around your body quicker than like a cold glass white wine.
Yeah, of course.
Anecdotally, I don't know, man.
I don't know, this is simply bullshit.
Try, no, Google it.
They get me just as fucked up.
Okay, okay.
Anecdotally,
no.
But when you open,
when you put the window, just say no.
Like, anecdotally, like, you know,
they say that you get more drunk
when you drink on a plane
because of the high altitude and stuff.
I think that's true.
I'll test it tonight.
Actually, one time, I,
because I normally, if I have,
I'm going on a plane right after this,
so I guess I'll probably just have a beer
before I fall asleep
to help,
Because the worst feeling is drinking a bunch of beer.
And then you don't go to bed for like four hours.
And then you go to bed, you're like,
oh, God, I'm sweet.
Because your body's like trying to digest all of it.
I was on this flight one time.
And I don't know why.
One of the, I asked for an alcohol-free beer.
Because I had a meal and I was like, yeah,
I want the taste of beer without alcohol.
But that's not the taste of beer.
It's, no, no.
I've been trying to swap out beer for non-alcoholic lately.
Yeah.
And I know it's, yeah.
What happened to you, well, listen, I'm sure, calories.
It's mainly calories.
Don't drink beer.
Well, no, sometimes you're in the mood where you,
people, everyone's having a beer and you want to join in,
but you don't want to have the alcohol.
So I'll just get the non-alcoholic.
It scratches the same, like, beer taste.
That's carbon.
No, genuinely, genuinely.
It's, it's...
It doesn't taste the same.
In my opinion, it doesn't taste you.
It doesn't taste the same, but it's close enough where, like,
I feel like, if I'm around everyone and everyone's beer in,
I'm like, well, I feel like I'm part.
of it.
I just-
And zero carbs and zero calories.
No, I think it tastes metallic.
Just drink a seltzer at that point, man.
I just don't want the calories.
Yeah, that's why I said, yeah, drink a salter.
Yeah, it's less calories.
Yeah, but you still have 100 calories.
I want zero.
I want zero.
I don't want the alcohol as well.
So I don't want the alcohol mainly as well,
because I'm like, man, I gotta do shit to-moy.
But for, to preface, this is not us giving shit to our mate
for not wanting to drink alcohol.
Really peer-fisherished right now.
Speak for yourself.
I'm definitely shaming him right now.
This is not what is happening,
but I'm trying to make you the argument.
Listen, I,
we booze and schmooze a lot, you know.
We have beers occasionally.
And I just kind of figured I was like,
man, if I'm gonna drink,
which ends up happening like once a week,
at least in Japan.
Like, if I can just change one of those days
to being no alcohol,
I'm like, okay, well,
maybe my body will thank me
a little bit more for it.
Oh, no, I completely agree.
And it's, like I said,
like it's not the exact,
same taste, but it's close enough for me
where I'm like, okay, it just about
gets that itch of beer.
Although, man, does it give me
like the grossest smelling mouth and burps?
For some reason, non-alcoholic beer,
at least the Japanese ones,
smell horrific.
Yeah, they smell like coins.
It's awful.
I don't know what, it's like metallic.
Like burp and I like nearly vomit.
Yeah, it's gross.
Yeah.
Like, but it's only 100 calories.
No, it's zero.
It's zero calories and zero carbs.
Wait, non-alcoholic beer in Japan.
The, the, the, the,
the, Suntory-Oll free and the-
Green label?
Asahi, no, green label is alcoholic.
Yeah.
The non-alcoholic as Asahi and Suntory,
zero car, like, I think two grams of carbs.
Yeah.
Or one, I don't know what else,
and zero calories.
And zero and zero sugars.
I mean, so it's like, uh, it's like a Coke zero
for alcoholics.
Just fucking drink, uh, water at the end of the day.
Yeah, I mean, I'm like, I've heard of that before.
No, no, no, no.
But like, it's like, again, like,
you wanna, you wanna be a part of it,
and sometimes, you know, it feels kind of lame
to order a fucking water
when everyone else's got beer, but like at least-
Order a sparkling water.
Okay, all right, pedantic guy.
I don't know, man, I don't fucking judge
if someone's like that at a hangout.
It's like, all right, you know what, like,
I don't judge, I'm like, I'm not judging your stance
or not wanting to drink alcohol.
I'm judging the fucking taste of non-alcoholic beer,
which I've had enough times at like,
like the one I've tried to make the same decisions.
And I don't know, it's kind of like being cut by beer.
It's like you're having, you're, you think you're having beer,
but like it's just not the same fullness
and richness of taste.
Yeah, I'm drinking beer, but it's not-
controversial, okay.
I've been drinking, I think an alcoholic Asahi
tastes better than Asahi.
Do you just not like beer?
What the fuck are you doing?
Do you not like?
I love beer.
Okay.
How dare you God?
How dare you say I don't like beer?
It's the one thing.
in life I love, God.
Dude, you just, I don't know,
because for me, I either want
a good tasting, whatever,
like a good tasting beer,
or I don't want it at all.
Like, I remember, like, Connor,
every time we'd hang out early on,
you'd drink the green labels,
which is like low calorie beer.
That's awful, right?
And it tastes awful.
It tastes fucking awful.
That was mainly because I wanted to get,
at that time,
it's like trying to get to the drunk vibe.
Yeah.
And I wanted to do it without murdering my body.
But it would come at the cost
of just having the worst tasting beer.
It's actually legally not recognized as beer in Japan.
Because of the way it's made, it can't be called beer.
Really?
Yeah, and it's so sheer.
It's called hopshu.
A haposhu.
It's not like, it can legally be called
and referred to as beer.
No, it's, it's, or refrauduu's haphoru.
Which, what does that mean?
Haporsu just means like, bubbly alcohol.
Yeah, right?
Like it's, I guess it's kind of like,
it's the closest you'll get to like,
the calories of non-alcoholic beer,
but keeps the alcohol.
It's like Hasbro's my first beer.
But I actually think that the alcohol in that,
because the beer tastes so bad,
the alcohol makes it taste worse.
Right.
Because the non-alcoholic is an alcoholic,
it's just like, oh, that's okay.
Yeah, I don't know, like, for me,
how can I say this?
Does beer taste good?
I love the taste of beer.
I don't know, okay, I do not know,
okay, genuinely, I do not know
if I like the tasted beer cause it tastes good
or if because I've like,
beer pilled myself into thinking it tastes good.
You know, because, okay, okay.
Every kid remembers their first sip of beer, right?
And you remember that first sip of beer,
and you're like, yeah, but as a kid,
you would only eat fucking chicken nuggets
if I gave them to you, Carl.
Do you remember the exact point you started liking beer?
I do remember there was a turning point
around like the age of like 20
where I started to think, huh, this is pretty refreshing.
For me, it wasn't until I moved to Japan
and I had Japanese beer that I realized,
wow, Australian beers taste like dirt.
And I was like, wow, this is actually good beer.
Oh, my shit.
Like, lagers and pilsners, like, very, and they also, like, I mean,
Asahi is like, it's like water.
Yeah, but because like my first, like,
reaction, or I guess like my first, my initial reaction to beer
or what I thought was like, this is what all beer tastes like,
is fucking VB, which is like the worst.
I mean, you have to start with the worst
so you can appreciate it.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, you have to have some,
but in my brain, I was like, oh, if this is what all beer
it tastes like, then I don't think I ever want to drink beer ever again.
And then when I came to Japan and I started drinking
all the Japanese brands, I was just like,
oh, this is actually like kind of nice.
Yeah, I think I remember telling my parents,
like, I'm never gonna drink alcohol.
It tastes so bad. And then they laughed at me.
And then years later they keep bringing it up.
Yeah, my dad laughed at me, you know, he was just like,
you're Australian, son, you're gonna drink.
It's like, if you are my son, you are going to drink.
I mean, yeah, I just love the taste of beer.
I wish that there was more non-alcoholic beers
that tastes are good, so I wouldn't feel bad about drinking them.
Yeah.
Because sometimes I'm like, man, I wish I could,
I could have a beer in this occasion,
but I'm like, man, I just don't wanna have alcohol.
It's like, fuck up, but I love the taste of beer itself.
But only really beer.
I never get like, I never really like wanna drink,
I never ever wanna fucking drink spirits.
They're fucking disgusting.
I don't think I like beer enough to the point
where I just want the taste of beer,
but I don't have the taste of it,
but I don't want alcohol.
I don't love beer as much.
Fuck, I love the bitterness,
I love the carbonation, I love the,
kind of hoppiness of it.
And it goes well with food so well.
Any food you have, it tastes so good with beer.
Or fried food.
Fried food, but any like anything really.
I think anything tastes good at beer.
And you tell me any food?
I'll say it tastes good of beer.
Sushi.
I think it tastes great with beer.
No.
No.
No, no, no.
No, it's too light, man.
It's too light.
Yeah, yeah.
I think it tastes good.
Oh, Malene.
I got some to find,
I got some hilarious, Tom.
Oh, okay, okay.
Do you want to say it?
Do you want to say it now?
Did you just forget we're doing a podcast right now?
You know the sushi restaurant?
The one that we all love and care about deeply?
Emily said it was mid and overpriced.
Oh my God, she did not.
She did not.
Wait, who said that?
Emily and Dider said that it was a mid
and they thought they got scammed because it was so expensive.
Oh my God.
That's okay, that's fine.
That is not okay, Malin.
No, no, no.
I don't know a single-
You're never gonna watch this episode,
but I don't think they can tell the difference.
I don't think they can tell them.
That was the moment that I genuinely lost all hope
in their food taste.
You know, Dieter's, like, thought Gregs was mid.
I just, I just, I've never been so disappointed before.
Yeah, but he was also on a steady diet
of fucking microwavable food in the US as well.
So like, I don't trust them.
Yeah, they have the weirdest food taste.
It's like impossible to give them something.
They're fucking made for each other, but what that fuck?
But not made for everybody else.
I can't believe I thought that sushi was made.
That's gonna keep me up at night.
God,
that's like my favorite sushi place.
Good, I have a,
I have a friend who's visiting right now
who's like, like, who's like born in Texas
and he just can't have seafood.
And he was asking me for like restaurant recommendations,
and I'm like, fuck, if you can't have seafood,
well, can you recommend in Japan?
That doesn't include seafood as well.
Fuck, this is a lot harder than I thought it was shown to be.
I was looking, when I went out with, um, uh, you think that's hard.
Moudan, when Moodan came, uh, his group, some of his friends came over,
and one of them had, uh, CDX disease, couldn't have gluten.
I learned that day that when I was trying to find a restaurant,
fucking everything in Japan has gluten, everything, everything.
So sauce sauce, gluten, meato, gluten off often.
Is gluten intolerant?
Like, is there even a full Japanese person that has gluten intolerant?
Like, is that a thing in Japan?
I think they got, like, they were killed.
I think they, they, they, they.
Survival of the fittest.
Well, no, I think.
I think if you had C-Lex disease in like,
I don't know, I don't know the history of it,
but I imagine it's like a thing where,
well, he died.
It's just skilled if, it's called,
evolution, right?
Bro, Darwin knew it.
Darwin figured it out.
It's the reason why I'm not
lactose intolerant and
one of you guys
probably are lactose intolerant.
I'm slightly lactose intolerant.
Do you think that if we were born
in like the caveman area,
that you'd survive or would you be one that died off
thanks to survival of the fittest.
Why are you saying this, God?
Oh no.
Everyone loves to think that they could survive,
but when they can't.
Oh, no, I'm fucked because I can't see shit.
Okay.
I think I'd be the first to go.
I think it'd be okay.
I know that music.
We get along, I like smashing things.
I mean, like even if, the thing is like,
even if you were like.
I know the music.
It took me a while to process this.
Smash some rocks together.
It's like, hang on.
I think I'd be okay as a caveman.
I think I'd be all right.
I think the problem is that even if you had
the perfect genes as a caveman
that could be compatible with that time period,
the average fucking life expectancy was like 27.
Well, that's my life expectancy right now.
It's the last season of trash taste, by the way.
Oh my God.
The answer is no. I would not.
I think it would be okay.
You think it'd be okay?
I think I'd make it work,
because I wouldn't know bodeys exist.
I wouldn't have anything to like care about.
Yeah.
I just, I feel like my priorities would be way different.
It's the biggest animal you think you could take on then.
Like one v, one fight.
You have weapons though.
You have weapons, you have a weapon.
What kind of weapons?
Like, like, Spears or like, like Caveman weapon, man.
You can take any animal on with weapons.
Are you kidding me?
No, you can't.
That's why we're on top, baby.
A sharp rock on the end of a stick.
Stone Age, Stone Age weapons.
I also don't know of a fucking gun, yeah, okay.
Of course if you have a gun, you could take on any animal.
Where am I spawning?
Huh?
Where am I spawning?
What do you?
What country's my spawn point?
What country is a small point?
Uh, not England.
Okay, well, that's fine, because some,
a lot of, Australia.
If we're in a volcanic country,
there's obsidian, very, very sharp by nature.
I'll pick some pieces up,
I throw it at the animal, we're good.
That's all, that's all.
You throw it at the animal?
Bro, are you kidding me?
That's all I'll be doing my entire life
is throwing things,
because that is our one trait
that it makes us the most OP
is that we can throw shit.
We, no other animal can throw shit like us.
Yeah, he's definitely dying for us.
What do you mean?
That is the reason why we were so O-P as humans
because we can just like sit back and fucking launch things.
No, we're O-P because we were smart.
Well, no, no, we weren't smart for a very long time.
No, I'm kidding.
We were smart because we managed to think,
that guy's that far away.
I got a stone here.
I wonder if I throw it at him and run away.
We're also very good runners.
Yeah, we're not faster.
We have like, like, not many other species can, like,
run as long as we can.
Yeah, we have the stamina.
Yeah, because like a deer and shit can't run that long.
They can run very fast.
They can run faster than a tiger and a lion.
That's all that's important, right?
Yeah, sometimes.
Sometimes, sometimes they say.
Listen, we're throwing shit is so valuable.
I agree, throwing shit is valuable.
I asked you what the biggest, what's the biggest animal you take on?
Give me enough spears and I can take that an elephant.
No fuck, no shot.
No shot.
No shot.
All right, save a tooth.
Could you take on a save a tooth?
I probably wouldn't be able to.
I probably wouldn't be able to.
He'd pretty catch me.
Yeah.
For the moment I throw one spear, I'm gone.
An elephant though.
What the fuck do you think you could take on an elephant?
I just feel like I could probably get enough spears down.
No, the skin is like tough as fuck on that thing.
Yeah, but if you've a really sharp thing,
you'd be right.
Well, I mean, that-
So listen, I've played Elven Ring, right?
I can dodge and roll around the elephant.
His a, his a...
You don't have, you don't have...
You don't have my frames.
Shit, I don't have my frames.
I think, maybe you were enough spears,
if I was really, really, dude, imagine,
imagine how happy the village would be there
if I brought back an elephant.
I'm like, guys, I'm gonna need everyone to come out for this one.
We gotta, we gotta haul ass.
They're like, why, why what?
Yeah, I mean, I'm sure, but like,
I don't think like throwing a couple of spears
is gonna take it now.
I think I have a good, good crack at it.
It's like, the new season of Tasman.
It's like, so how did Connor die?
It just decides, like, chuck the spear
at the fucking elephant.
Drayin, you could dig a really big hole
and like, lead the elephant into the hole.
Well, like pitfall.
Like a lunatoon, sex.
Like you, like a wild and coyote kind of thing.
How deep are we talking right now?
Like if I dug a six foot hole that is like,
it's just wide enough for two legs of the elephant
to fall into.
Yeah.
It'd be stuck, right?
It'd no way it'd get out.
What do you mean?
Wait, wait, wait.
Are you talking about fucking implanting the elephants
with four different holes for each?
No, no, no, like it's one giant elephant-sized hole.
They could theoretically fit two elephant legs, right?
Yeah.
and if it went in over the thing, right,
I put leaves like a lineage-tune skit
and it walked over, I led it,
maybe I stabbed it and I ran over it.
You're thinking it would fall into it
or didn't know it's a hole.
I think it would fall in.
And if it would fall in, it wouldn't be able to get out
because there's no, how's the elephant gonna climb out?
Are you talking about if it like falls in
and lands on its back?
No, just like even if its legs went in.
No, because then it could just back up
and just be like, look.
Or it would continue to walk forward
and just fucking walk out.
No, I think it's too top.
I think it's too heavy.
The only way that that would work is if the hole
is the length of the elephant.
And it just like falls in.
No, I think a Looney Tunes comically half hole
the elephant would work.
Have you not seen an elephant stand on two legs?
Yeah, could get out that way.
Okay, okay, now, okay, we're doubling the size of the other.
Do you reckon it would fall in there?
It's not like, it's not like link,
like old school link where it can jump.
Like it can jump.
Not that.
I'm just imagine caveman kind of being like,
Boys, perfect plan.
Yeah, we have a hole.
It starts like getting up on his hind legs.
Yeah.
This motherfucker can't jump.
I think we get enough, if there was four of us,
we get enough stabs in to take the elephant down.
It'll take a lot of stabs.
There's a reason they had war elephants back in the day, man.
Yeah. Yeah, they actually weren't that effective.
Well, they don't think they were that effective.
Well, like the Persian Empire and stuff like that was a war.
I think they were that effective, yeah.
I think it's pretty easy to take it down.
Man, watched one episode, one film of like 300.
Yeah, 300.
I can take it.
I can take a few.
Just throw spear on it.
Here are me, right?
There's 30 of the boys together
in their spears and shields, right?
The elephant rocks up.
I think we're all collectively are like,
we go for the elephant, we go for the elephant.
Everyone throws their spear.
You don't have enough spears in the thing,
like, you won't walk anymore.
No, no, no, no, because like,
if you have a group, that's different,
because you would, like, someone would have
just like take agro while like everyone else is,
like, throwing spears.
Juggle the agro, bro.
No, literally, you would have to like juggle the agro.
That's what you would have to do, bro.
Alright, switch up, load up, reload.
Next wave.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do you think K-Man at that level of fucking life?
Well, obviously they think,
because it like took down bloody mammoths.
Yeah, but they probably took it down in great numbers.
Like, it wasn't, they weren't like min-maxing that shit.
Oh, no, no, it definitely were.
Joey, if your life is on the line,
you came in a dumb?
You weren't, you weren't.
No, they weren't dumb.
All they did was hot things.
That's why we evolved to now, where we're talking about.
Where we're talking about this.
Maybe we're the dumb ones, Joey.
That's why I'm saying I would not survive.
No, the thing that made,
the entire time we stopped carrying
is when we figured out like farming.
Yeah.
And they were like, well, guys,
I guess hunting's kind of pointless now.
Yeah.
Oh, we're gonna do as your shoe flies away and stuff.
Yeah.
Like, you think like cavemen,
cavemen use any brain capacity
to figure out fucking the economics
of like their country or shit?
Or like how black holes work?
No, that all.
All they were focusing on was how to take down
this fucking, yeah, was how to take down
this fucking animal and survive.
Listen, I reckon even two of us could take down an elephant,
I think.
That's a bit, that's a bit, that's a much.
I was thinking like five, 10 minimum.
I think with 10 of you, it'd be easy.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
That's probably what they did.
They saw the size of this giant fucking creature
and they were like, well, you know,
Steve isn't gonna take it on by himself.
We should get everyone in on this shit.
I just think,
Fishing just sounds a lot easier.
Yeah, what if you're in land?
Yeah, that's true, true.
You know?
Have you got a pond or something?
Yeah.
Yeah, just hope you spawned in the right place, right?
Yeah, well, most places did.
Sporn issue.
Most places were water.
Sorry?
Most people did tend to go near the water.
Yeah.
Even they didn't spawn there.
They were just, I was gonna water.
See, that's why the Japanese figured out
farming immediately and they were like,
oh, wow, there's so much easier.
They figured it out.
Yeah.
They were like, oh, rice.
It can feed everyone.
And we don't have to fucking hunt for this shit.
I suppose.
Yeah, they figured it out.
If you were actually like,
if you were actually stuck in a battle royale,
which character archetype do you think you'd be?
Like, honestly,
why do you mean by character archetype?
Like, you've seen fucking battle royale.
I think I definitely.
You've seen battle royale literally.
There are character archetypes there, okay, Joe.
I wouldn't be the psychopath.
I'd be the sniper.
I would be the archer.
Yeah.
But I think I'd be a bit,
if I was,
if I really was in it,
I think I'd be a bit indifferent towards the killing after a while.
I'd be like, well, I don't see the me or them, I guess.
Yeah.
But I mean, okay, here's the thing, right?
Because you, you know, we'd like to think that we'd be X character or Y character,
but you get one shot, you know?
You get one shot.
You don't get a million fucking Dark Souls tries.
You don't get to figure out if eye frames exist.
You don't get to figure out, you know, the boss attack patterns and all that shit.
You get one chance, you know.
So, like, I'm, you know, I'm thinking most people would just probably camp it out.
Yeah, I would be like the,
the like, woozy hoarder.
I just like gather everything
and just monopolize all the supplies.
I dig a seven foot hole.
And then I leave people into the seven foot hole.
Like, because in every like battle royale fucking show,
like it's like the, you know, the fucking chads that like,
you know, go out and kill people that always come out on top.
But to me, I'm just like, surely they're easy targets, right?
Surely they're like...
No, those types of guys are the ones who, in a real life situation,
they're gonna die first.
I mean, I realistically, you just make a team.
Just try and make a team, that's your best bet, right?
Just get a part of a squad.
Where are we dropping, boys?
You just pray the first people you meet
to kind of chill and then they, it works out.
That's, uh, I think I'd stake my bet on that.
I'd be like, well, my life is on this 50-50.
I don't know, man, I've watched Squid Game.
It didn't work out.
One of them's gonna betray you a one day.
If you incentivize killing each other, then yeah, I guess though.
But if you don't, then, you know,
like, you're talking like an apocalyptic, like survival situation, right?
Yeah, yeah, obviously.
Yeah, fine.
Yeah, I guess, okay, that's different
because like zombie apocalypse is different
from like a battle royale kind of like situation.
Yeah, but you might need to kill someone
to get their food.
You mean in zombie apocalypse or?
Just any apocalypse.
Someone's not gonna give you their food,
but you're about to, you know,
you're desperate need food or water, you know?
Is that what you were like during COVID?
I was gonna kill Gunn.
Like, give me the goddamn food.
My bathtub's not feeling gone, sorry.
Sorry, gone.
If a zombie apocalypse happened,
you'd be that motherfucker in like episode four
or whatever and last of us.
Yeah, he's like, all right guys, I'm gonna go
and then immediately dies.
Just like holding up and being like,
this is my place right now.
You cannot come in, I have a working bidet right here
and it's not for sharing actually.
I mean, theoretically there'd be enough oil
if you could get a hold of it and generators.
You could probably like live, if you've got super lucky,
you could live comfortably.
Yeah.
It'd be very tough.
You could at least get a few good years.
That's my biggest problem with Zong 100.
They just have working electricity.
Yeah, I'm like, how?
How are we ever, the zombies
who's running these grids?
The zombies's killed everyone but the workers
at the power plant as long as I never leave.
Yeah, it's so convenient.
It's like we, everyone is a zombie,
except the essential workers.
Because we need them.
They're not animals, they're just zombies.
They're like, oh, you run the plan.
The YouTube is the first to die.
Yeah.
You just love these like hypotheticals.
This is just like,
I don't know, when men have like,
when men have just like,
is this the most like bro conversation?
I think it is, you know?
Well, I think I.
Like, I bet they're talking about girls.
It's like, you would die.
I think I've had this conversation
a few, fair few times with other fellow men.
I think I yearn to just be in a survival situation
where I'm forced to just learn the basics.
Yeah, just learn how to just do everything myself.
Okay, as a guy.
Okay, shopping, right?
Okay.
Do you go, do you, when you go shopping,
do you know exactly what you need
and go straight for it?
Or do you ever go shopping and you're like,
I don't know.
I don't need to go shopping.
I don't leave the house unless I have a written list
of shit I need to buy.
I'm pretty sure that's a dude thing, right?
Like it's like, I don't understand like,
yeah, I'm just gonna go out shopping.
Do you wanna come and I'm like, yeah, sure.
you buying and just like, I don't know.
And I'm like, what do you mean you don't know?
Yeah, I mean, I don't like to buy things
unless I need it, but I do understand that sometimes
you're like, man, I just want an excuse to go outside.
And sometimes just checking stores is nice.
And sometimes you see something, you're like, man,
I didn't know I wanted that, but I,
no, but I find that kind of stuff as I am,
as I'm going through the list of things that I need,
like, I would happen to find something
where I'm like, oh, that's actually kind of cool
and I would buy that sometimes.
Yeah, like, go into a store.
This is this mentality why I have no goddamn clothes,
though, because I don't fucking go out to fucking clothes.
I'm like, I have perfectly good clothes right now.
That is true.
And that's probably why I need to update my wardrobe as well.
And Joey,
Joey, instead of just going shopping,
just made his own fucking clothing come face.
Instead of just saying, like,
I was so sick and tired of every time
I would go out shopping,
there would be a list of shit that I needed,
and then just right next to the supermarket,
there would just be kind of like a cool clothing store.
And I'm like, I'll go check it out
because I've got some time.
And I was just like, damn,
I'm wasting like so much time and money on this shit.
I'm just doing it.
Me, be like, I'd rather just make an entire fucking brand and clothing company
than just go out shopping for myself.
I just realized how dumb I am.
I read this fucking Spanish beer out of a German accent before.
That's actually not bad as well.
It's not bad.
Nice Spain.
This is much better than the other shit.
It was very good.
We had this moment with Didis when he was in England where I was just showing them around.
It was like me, Dydis.
Sydney and Emily.
And we were just gonna like show them around Brighton
and just have like a nice time.
And I remember they just wanted like,
I think Sydney wanted to pick up something
in like the mall.
So we went to the mall.
And as soon as we go in the mall,
like Sydney goes into like the clothing shop
that she needs to go to to pick up something.
And then Emily sees like a clothing shop
that she wants to go to.
And she spends like a lot of time
going through like different clothes and everything like that.
And then we had a moment where Emily gets some clothes
that she just happened to see when we were just out and about, right?
And the girls are like,
oh, do you want to continue like looking at stores?
And we're like, if we're going shopping,
as like the partner,
I need to like mentally prepare myself to go,
to like have like the shopping day.
You know what I mean?
I don't know if this is a me thing.
I totally get what you mean.
Yeah, like, like, like, I thought we were just gonna go out
and explore.
If we're doing a shopping day, like, as a guy,
I need to mentally prepare.
Yeah, I don't really go shopping unless we're in the mood.
Yeah, yeah.
It's like, oh, I'm about to be the luggage carrier.
Yeah, damn.
And then like, Didas had the exact same reaction to me
and I'm like, is this a guy thing?
That's totally guy thing.
If we go shopping, we like,
okay, here's the thing.
We're fine having a shopping day.
We just need some time to like,
mentally prepared to have a shopping day.
You can't just like spring it on us.
Like we can't just go out and suddenly we're gonna go shopping.
We need to like go out to be like, okay.
It's not as spontaneous as it is for girls, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
With girls, it's like you don't even have to second guess it.
It's like, you know what, I got some time.
You know, my girlfriend is here with me.
Let's just fucking go shopping, whatever.
Check out some stores.
But for the guys, it's like, all right,
let me think in the recesses of my brain,
what am I missing in my life that I need right now?
Let's go.
And then the moment you buy that thing, you're like,
we're going home.
You know what I mean?
It's like, yeah, I got everything I wanted.
I don't have to look at anything else.
Yeah, because I thought for me,
I was mentally scarred because as a kid,
my mom would always take me to like the car boot sales,
basically garage sales, but like English version.
Sure.
And I would go to like the one table that I always knew was there
that had like kind of like games and some DVDs.
Sure.
I go to that one table and I'm like,
mom, I'm done.
And my mom would spend like three hours there
looking for antique stuff and I'm like,
I'm ready to go home now, mom, I'm ready to go home.
And I never understood my dad until I got older
who he'd take her to the car boot cell
and he just stay in the car the entire time.
The correct thing would have been to leave
and just come back later.
Just tell me roughly when you're done
and I'll come and pick you up.
I'm gonna go home and sit on the couch,
be comfortable.
Yeah, and I never understood that dad energy
until I've realized now that I'm older
and I'm like, oh, I would have done the same thing.
Yeah, totally.
I had a cold sweat the other day.
Thinking about a decision I made
when I was younger and I wish I could go back
and slap myself.
What?
I really wanted to get Twilight Phantom Princess
on the Wii.
And I remember I gave, I traded in like 30.
Wait, did you call it Twilight Phantom Princess?
Do you mean Twilight Phantom Princess?
You made, I was like, is there a Twilight game
called Phantom Princess?
Like, what the fuck?
Twilight Phantom Princess.
Bro, the beer, B, B, B, B, this is 7% B and Bhabi hitting me.
Twilight Princess.
I was like, damn, they made a Twilight game on the Wii.
It's Twilight Princess, right?
It's Twilight Princess.
I'm fucking dumb.
I think Phantom Owloss and Twilight Princess.
Yeah, shit, okay.
Yeah, Twilight Princess on the Wii.
And I traded in like fucking 20 GameCube games.
games and a bunch of like Mr. Game and Watch Game Boy games.
Oh my God.
And I think it was like now if you bought them all,
they could be worth like 400 bucks.
Oh easily.
Especially the GameCube games that gave in.
I'm like fuck, I think I traded in like Super Mario Sunshine
and Smash Bros. All this year,
just for one damn game.
Dude, Super Mario Bros and Smash Bros. by itself
would like rack you at least 100 bucks.
Just with those two games in Japan right now.
I had Luigi's Mansion too.
I think it's worth like, that was even worth more.
Oh yeah.
Because no one fucking bought that game in Europe.
I did.
Yeah, I know it's rather.
It's actually, it's worth a lot.
Well, it's worth more than it was when you bought it.
Oh, shit.
Keep that shit in good condition.
I just wake up, like, why did you train it in?
Just wait.
It's crazy the thing that, like, the value of Nintendo games just go up.
Well, that's what happens when you don't allow people to buy your games.
Yeah.
Play fucking Rolexes, but it's just like artificial scarcity.
Dude, yeah.
I might need it.
I can't fucking open this.
You good, man.
I don't have any fingernails.
You never do.
I know.
I don't think in the history of our friendship.
I've never, like you always have trouble.
This is the one thing I wish I could get rid of.
I get my fucking nails to like,
golem-esque levels and I'm like,
I guess I should cut rid of them.
I can scraping my inside of my butt hole
when I'm wiping myself.
So I'm like, I should cut them.
That's how you get hemorrhoids, well.
No, I just like letting them grow out
because I love the satisfaction of like seeing it like the difference.
It's like a before and after for like a pimp my ride, but for my hands.
That's like, I'm the same, but with toenails.
That looks nice.
Like, with my toenails,
because with my nails, it's really annoying
because you see them on a daily basis,
but toenails, you can't see them,
but they get way thicker than, like, the fingernails do.
How do you fight the urge to clip your toenails?
The correct, like, because I,
you know you're supposed to clip your toenails
just straight.
It must be, like, flat.
Yeah.
Fuck off.
Like, you're not.
You didn't know?
No.
Apparently, that's what you're supposed to do.
Well, you didn't know this?
No, I know this.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Wait, wait, what?
They're not supposed to be curved,
they're not supposed to be flat.
It should be flat, fuck off.
No.
At least that's how I was taught.
Is your first time hearing this?
Yeah, this is.
Genuinely, this is genuinely the first time I'm-
So your fingernails totally fine to do that,
but your toenails should be cut like,
at like a, like, completely like straight.
He's checking right now.
All right, get those little grippers out, let's see.
I just cut them like literally two days ago.
Yeah, no, you shouldn't do that.
That's how you get ingrown tone.
That's how you get ingrownails, yeah.
You know what?
I've got ingrown nails for my entire life.
I've never had an ingrown towel.
Do you cut them straight?
Yeah, I just cut them straight.
But I always have that urge to like,
I want to clip off the edges.
Yeah, I've done that as a kid and it was,
didn't go well.
So because the way that it grows for some reason
on your feet, it'll, if it's straight,
it'll grow outwards like that.
Yeah.
But if you already have it like that,
it'll grow like, you know,
if you think about the shape the way it grows.
Yeah.
Because it naturally is gonna curve outward.
Well, I don't cut it like,
like too deep, which is-
That looks pretty fucking deep.
There's no nail left.
I've gone pretty fucking deep on it.
That's kind of how my toenails look as well.
What?
Yeah, because I've like, I don't know.
Okay, okay, when you say straight,
I just follow the-
Yeah, yours is like dead straight.
See, that's straight right there.
I think you just have straight toes.
No, no, no.
I think you just have straight toes.
No, gone, I just cut them straight.
No, no, no, okay, okay.
It looks weird.
It looks weird when you cut it,
but I swear.
I follow the line.
I follow the line.
No, you're not supposed to.
You're not supposed to?
No, not on your toenails.
Does you not know this?
No.
Stop doing it.
You don't want a ingrow and toenail.
That shit's, yeah.
I know.
It's true, right?
I've had it before.
Yeah.
Well, I thought everyone knew this.
Oh, Nabi's checking now too.
Everyone in the office is checking their toes right now.
You didn't know this?
I thought this is common knowledge.
I mean, I knew about it, yeah.
Yeah.
Where did you hear this from?
I just heard it a bunch
that you're not supposed to,
not supposed to cut your toenels.
That way.
You fucked your turn out of us too?
Oh God.
Yeah, because-
Southeast Asian thing, Kai, do you know about this?
No. Okay, thank God.
I didn't know either.
Mellian, did you know about this?
What?
What?
What did she say?
She said she knows the poor people
of rich people feet thing.
What?
Oh yeah.
Wait, can I get your guys?
Hold on.
Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Are you saying that if you just look at someone?
Wait, Malian, you never explained to me.
Okay, let me show you what,
Malin sent me, like, I'm just chilling one day.
Is it, is it the palm reading thing?
Is it the same part?
No, no.
I'm just chilling, I'm just chilling one day, right?
And then Malin sends me,
Maylan sends me this image and says, and asks me,
what feet do you have?
A Roman foot, a square foot, a Greek foot, or an Egyptian foot?
I have-
Who's the fuck is a square foot?
I have a Greek foot.
I have a friend who like, you have...
I have the Roman foot.
No, no.
No, because it's like curved.
No, yours is like,
it's like straight and then do.
Yours is kind of like in between a Roman and a Greek foot.
I'll take it.
Mine's straight up a Greek foot.
My second toe just fucking juts out.
I have like in between a-
So what's the point of this?
Wait, wait, wait, so what does this determine?
What mine means?
So is it your middle toe is long?
No, my second toe is really long.
So I have a Greek foot.
You have a joyous life.
Okay, this is cool.
I have a joyous life?
You might as well start reading my fucking palms at that point.
Like, it's the same thing.
What about your feet, Connor?
This is like in between a Greek and a magician.
My next one to the Roman one is more close.
Yeah, he's like Roman as well.
So it's like three, the big one and the second one and the third one are the same?
No.
No, it's slightly a triangle, but not by a lot.
Slightly a triangle?
Oh, you have a romantic life.
You have a romantic line, apparently.
Sheesh.
That's real.
This is copium of the highest order.
This is what people do when they're bored?
Yeah.
This looks, no, I think this is you being bored.
Oh, wait, I'm gonna send you guys a test.
And we're gonna, so there's this new personality test
that Maylin sent me.
Oh my gosh.
All right, let's do it.
But it's actually pretty fun, right?
Because it's like, we'll take it right
because I do need to go to the toilet.
But the way they do it, it's kind of like
Pokemon types.
So, so.
I love those unhinged, like which Pokemon would you fuck?
So I did my test and,
And for like a lot of it, obviously it's like a cold really,
it was pretty inaccurate, but for like the types that it told me
that I would like get along well with.
Mine's in Chinese.
You can switch.
Oh, okay.
I didn't see that part.
All right, let's see.
Maybe we should do it.
You are now, oh my God, this is already so pretentious.
You are now embarking on a journey to explore your innate personality, relax and take a deep breath.
Maybe, why does you love these?
I don't.
No, I don't think it does.
All right, let's do this test.
Because people are so unreliable
because I've met people.
I'm not going to say who,
who tell me their personality type.
And I'm like, that's what you think you are.
That's not what you are.
You're very different to your image of yourself.
We all are.
Because we all view ourselves very differently
to how we actually are.
And we're terrible at being honest with ourselves.
I think it's also like perspective-based as well.
Absolutely, yeah.
I think you don't need these quizzes.
Oh, okay.
Oh, I didn't understand it from that perspective.
I guess that makes more sense.
Did you see that video about the guy?
He's like, his new YouTube is kind of like blown up.
He did this video about like 10 animals that love to get high.
And I didn't know about this, but apparently dolphins will like lightly bite poisonous puffer fish and kick it around to each other so they can all have a bite and get high.
Fuck yeah.
While we're talking about dolphins?
I know, Mainland.
I hang out with Sydney and you two talk about that shit all the time.
Apparently King Lemurs, uh, black lemurs, sorry.
They just like find poisonous like centipedes
and just like lightly chew on them.
And then pass it around to each other
and get fucking stone.
I mean the biggest, the biggest.
It's just so funny.
The biggest stone is in the animal kingdom of koalas.
Yeah, also apparently birds and bees.
They just, sometimes they get high on,
or drunk on like fermented fruits or stuff as well.
I dig it.
All right, so we just did this personality test
that Maylene sent us.
I'm a, what type were you?
I'm water type.
I'm light type.
I'm a steel type.
Oh shit.
Apparently my least compatible types are ground and water.
I feel like-
You're not compatible.
Apparently I'm most compatible with light type, so...
But this is also bullshit because my in a...
Most compatible with me, God.
My is bullshit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dude, my in a personality, there's like a bunch of them.
Go big or go home.
It is what it is.
No excuse.
I'm ready and I'm a 10 out of 10.
That is not me.
That is not him.
Not me.
I'm not gonna.
Do you even the Chinese zodiac symbols for you?
They mean anything to yourself?
Chinese zodiac symbols?
Yeah, they're like different zodiac symbols.
Here, you're the horse.
That's a fucking good year.
What are you?
Rat.
Hey, he won, okay?
He won.
Number one, baby, we don't lose.
Say less.
We win at any cost.
I'm a dog.
That's a good boy.
Yeah, that's a good boy.
I'm a good boy.
Well, so I'm a P because I have a cousin
who's like, you're the dream.
And I'm like, imagine being year of the dragon.
That's next year, right, I think.
I think it might be next year.
But like, that's just like so overpowering to every other animal.
So what are you? I'm a drag.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right, all right.
The rat won the race. That's all the matters, bro.
That's all the matters.
Sounds like copium to me.
He won.
He won.
I don't know.
It's the best.
You won the race and also started the plague, so.
Oh, you gotta have it up and a downside.
Yeah, yeah.
Dragon's extinct.
What did you get Azure in there,
Uh, light.
Yeah.
Yeah, what, one of the five things that is, yeah.
Oh, it was, okay, fuck, I closed it, but it was like, I'm excited to do it.
I'm a bit lonely, I'm happy or something.
I was like, this all doesn't sound like me at all.
What is yours said?
My innate personal, this just makes me sound like, uh, this just makes me sound like botchy, basically.
So, uh, innate personality, worried.
No news is good news.
Okay.
Regrettable.
he slash he knows me, calm down.
And it's just like a water droplet with like sweat drops.
That just sounds like a paranoid schizophrenic.
It's like, oh God, what's going to happen?
Oh my goodness.
Yeah, so thanks, Malene, for giving us a bullshit personality test.
But at least I know we aren't compatible with Jerry,
because, you know, that's...
Wow, what a shame.
We have to stop talking to each other now.
I think we need to stop trash taste because we...
Water is super effective against steel.
It's not easy being the glue that holds it all together.
Someone's got to bring the boys together.
The Nick Fury of Trash Tastes, some call me.
You have the same personality type of Sydney, apparently.
Light?
Yeah, Sydney got light as well.
Well, half the questions I didn't even like the answers to.
We'll link it the one that we used.
Yeah, the moment where the question was like,
you encounter a talking bird in a cave that starts like saying all your
wanted option.
It was just like, where was the key?
Kill it option.
Yeah.
Like what the fuck a bird is talking to me?
Kill it.
I'm hungry actually, I need to eat.
In real life, you always have the attack prompt there,
but we just never do it.
Sure.
It's actually factually, never worth it.
We always choose to run.
Yeah, we always choose to run or use items or call a friend.
So I was talking to Malian earlier this week.
Because Mailin's apparently like starting a farm
and some shit.
And she's gonna get like, yeah, you saw that?
Yeah, she's gonna get chickens and stuff.
Wow. Yeah, we're just casually talking about you,
Maylund, right, right?
She's gone back to a Southeast station route.
Yeah, so my big question is, okay,
you have an animal on your farm that you know
you're gonna kill one day for food.
Yeah. Do you name it?
Yeah, of course.
This isn't a hypothetical, this actually happened to me.
Oh, this actually happened?
Yeah, my grandma owned two chickens
and we named them, they were pets,
and when they got,
two old to lay eggs, we kill them and ate them.
Are you gonna love an animal?
And I think that a part of the process of life
is just, you know, ultimately,
if something has lived its life and you eat it
and it gives you, it furthers your life,
you know, and I think that.
I'm happy to know that those chickens
that like my grandma and I and like our family care for
is part of me now.
Yeah, you know.
I think that if you're gonna take care of a chicken
and show at love, you know,
and then it gets too old,
you may as well eat it, you know.
I get, why,
Fujimoto ate is goldfish, dude.
Like, he knew.
He was the head of the curve.
It's part of me now.
Animals eat animals all the time.
You know what I mean?
We're just a bit more compassionate and weird about it.
That's true.
Ever since we had an abundance of things, you know.
Especially when an animal is a
privilege.
We figured out like fucking junk food.
I think it all went downhill.
And we were like, how to make everything shit?
Well, here's the thing.
Okay.
I don't know if I've ever like brought this up
on trash taste,
because it feels like a topic I've already brought up,
but I don't know if it's something I've done in private or not,
but like, okay, why is it that all the food
that, like, tastes good are shit for your body?
Why, why, why is beers like shit for your body?
It's just, you know, God's cruel joke.
Why is McDonald's shit for your body
when it's like the most processed shit,
but it tastes fucking God-like?
I mean, because we've figured out
what the human body identifies as being tasty generally,
and it just so happens that if you put all of those things
in one and prepare it in a certain way,
it's generally bad for you.
Like the one thing that I think people,
like burgers can be kind of healthy for you
if you cook them in a certain way
and prepare it in a certain way.
It's just the way we cook them
and we add all this shit to make it bad.
Yeah, but why is it the fact that like all of these
like superfoods that like people say like,
oh yeah, it increases your life expectancy,
it improves everything health-wise.
Most of them just kind of tastes like ass.
Yeah.
Like surely, surely if like the human body like,
if evolution was a,
surely would be evolved to make the good tasting food,
also like the best food as possible for our body as well, right?
Like we need fat and other kinds of things
that we commonly now, because we don't need to,
we don't need fat as much to survive as we used to.
Yeah.
But you needed fat.
And fat was the thing that made things taste like grape,
you know, butter, you know, that kind of stuff
would make things taste amazing.
So I think, I don't think it was negative.
It's just in the modern age, it's become negative,
because we don't, I don't need to
stay warm in winter. I can just put a coat on made of some crazy chemical that somehow keeps
everything in and everything out. Like, you know, we've, we are just living in a time where the age
to, that all the rules have changed drastically in 150 years. So now suddenly becomes a lot harder.
And then we figured out how to process shit and add weird chemicals to stuff that are terrible
for us. We used to put a fucking asbestos in stuff. You could smoke asbestos cigarettes.
How many times are you going to bring this?
I just can't believe that was a thing that we did.
Jesus.
People are like 50 years being like,
can you believe we smoked cigarettes?
Yeah, no, I mean.
People willingly made that decision to do that?
Yeah.
It's just, you know, I think that...
People are saying that now.
There's nothing.
There's nothing.
Like, I think also taste buds are a big factor.
Something tastes really good for some people,
sometimes they don't,
but generally like fatty things and stuff coated in butter
or garlic tastes.
Yeah, but I've never seen anyone who's like,
oh yeah, my favorite food
of all time is kale.
I fucking love kale.
I've never met a single person
who's like, yeah, kale is my all-time favorite.
Like, if I, my last meal,
if I was on death row,
would be a bowl of fucking kale.
You know what fuck me up?
What?
Found out that they're like,
like bread Brussels sprouts to taste better.
And like the pat, like recently.
I believe that.
Like they taste so much better now.
What's like all Brussels sprouts?
I think in America, at least,
the Brussels sprouts,
every single time I get to America, right?
I always order Brussels sprouts.
Oh, they goaded.
Because for some reason, they taste insane in America.
When I was growing up, they were like the,
well, you've like them or you don't,
but we'll see about it.
And I really like them growing up.
Well, the meme was that kids wouldn't eat the Brussels sprouts.
Fucking love them growing up.
They taste so fucking good.
I didn't like them growing up.
I did not like them.
I loved them growing up.
It's something when I became an adult
where I'm like, I can appreciate the bit of flavor.
Can we fact check this, by the way?
I can appreciate the bit of flavor
of these Brussels sprouts now that I have a wider palette.
But when I was a kid, I was just like,
this shit, nasty's fuck.
I think I could have a little of veg.
I don't think I should, but I think I could.
If I have butter available as well.
All right.
Could you be a vegetarian?
Oh, easily, yeah.
Really?
Yeah, I think so.
For how long?
You say this now, but-
I just love the way you're saying this,
like it's such a brave thing.
Like, I could do it.
I could live off edge.
Me and my vegetarians all learn the world
are just like, this motherfucker.
I will fully admit, I could never.
Listen, the two things I care about most,
beer and coffee, vegan friendly.
I'm good to go.
Also, I've had vegan food,
specifically in like in California,
because their vegan game is off the charts.
To be fair, it's gotten way, way better.
It is insane, I'm sure it's,
some of the foods are terrible for you,
but their vegan level is through the roof.
They don't know shit that tastes way better
than anything I could ever get.
Totally. Normally, just vegan.
I'm like, how are you doing this?
What are you putting in this food?
The hard choice has never been giving up,
like, okay, going like a vegetarian life or something like that.
To me, it's always like the biggest factor out of anything
in terms of a choice is convenience.
You know, it's like sometimes, all right,
it's sometimes you just gone out for a bender
and it's like one o'clock and you're like,
do I really wanna be thinking about like,
oh, is this, am I eating something vegan
or vegetarian right now?
Or do I just order a fucking mackeys
because I'm like fucking drunk.
I think you just adapt.
I'm gonna order Maccas after this recording.
I'm already not thinking.
I think you just get really used to just thinking about that kind of stuff.
It's just a different and you just get very,
I speak to vegetarian and some of you.
I don't like to associate with them normally,
but when I do associate with them, it's just easy.
I asked that, especially in like America.
America, it's very easy. In Japan, it's obviously a lot harder.
It's getting a lot easier though, for sure.
Yeah, I mean there's a, as a vegan chain.
I think there's one in Shunjuku and, uh, oh, dude.
I mean like you think like five, 10 years ago in Japan,
like the concept of veganism didn't even exist here.
This is one place where I think one of my favorite pastures
in Japan is gluten and vegan.
And it should God tier. I don't know how they do it.
What are they putting in there?
As in gluten and gluten and gluten free and vegan free.
Gluten free and vegan free.
No vegan's allowed.
We didn't put any vegans.
It is like my, honestly like top three pastures for me in Japan.
It's so fucking good.
Really?
Yeah.
And they do a vegan tiramisu.
It's God to it.
Like I don't know how they're doing this.
Probably a lot of sugar and a lot of fat,
but it's still very good.
Well, it makes you think how much of the culinary world
is based on like very few things.
You can add a lot of things to make stuff tasty.
No, no, no, no.
Like, we've like, okay,
we've gotten so used to, like, imagine Western,
Columnary world.
Yeah.
If cows didn't exist.
Like, we're fucked.
Yeah, yeah, like, cows are literally like,
Zeus holding up all the world right now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, well, what happens if we don't have cow
and fucking wheat?
Well, we're fucked, you know?
Like, like, so much of it is based on things
that few animals can provide.
Yeah.
Go for it.
If the impossible burgers, the no meat burgers,
taste as good as normal beef burgers,
will you just be like, yeah, I'm not gonna eat any more beef?
I don't really care.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, me neither.
Well, actually, I, because I stopped,
Burger King in Japan,
a plant-based burger and I thought it tastes
way better than their actual burgers.
Yeah.
And they stopped doing it.
And I'm like, why?
Like, like, what?
Well, your first problem is eating Burger King.
Yeah.
Well, sometimes I wanted like the burger
and I didn't wanna get McDonald's
and I used to go to Burger King
because they had the plant-based one.
It was so fucking good.
Like to me, fucking rid of it.
To me, the big choice isn't going like vegan
or like meat place, plant-based, all this shit.
Just give me shit that tastes good.
That's all I really care about.
Yeah.
If it tastes good, I'm not really gonna care.
I've had plenty of like vegan dishes
at like restaurants and like cafes and stuff
where I'm like, okay, yeah, this is really fucking good.
Like it's absolutely amazing.
But I've also had vegan, you know, dishes
in some restaurants and cafes where I'm like,
this is kind of ass, not gonna lie.
It's a lot of the times,
because I've had like, I remember my first time
trying vegan cheese and it's very similar
trying non-alcoholic beer where it's like,
you know, it's like, yeah, it looks like cheese.
Yeah, I know this is like.
If you're vegan, right?
You can't have cheats, right?
But you have that,
Maybe you know what it tasted like.
It's gonna scratch that itch a little bit.
And I guess, but...
Like, I think, like, ultimately,
having these options is never a bad thing.
No, no, it's not a bad thing.
It's not a bad thing.
Like the single sliced cheese could barely be considered cheese,
but some people like it, and they love it on burgers.
Don't know why, it tastes good.
I don't know how they figured it out, but it does.
Yeah, I mean, like, this isn't me trashing,
like, everyone who makes the choice who wants to go vegan
because there are like plenty of reasons
to want to go vegan.
Yeah.
I mean, ultimately healthier, probably,
than me.
Probably, you know, probably.
Probably, probably.
Like, at the end of the day,
it is your choice if you want to,
and I'm totally fine with that.
Yeah, it's just the big thing,
which is, I think the big reason a lot of people don't,
is not because of an environmental choice
or any ethical choice.
People, like, if it's convenient and if, you know,
it's not,
The mentality is now that a lot of vegan stuff
is done as a replacement to things people already used to
as opposed to just, hey, this stuff tastes good by itself
like in terms of like coming in to it
with like an open mind.
Yeah.
And I think that's the biggest image thing
that these kinds of different diets have right now,
which is to convince people over,
you need to convince them to replace
what they have in their diet now and kind of,
use a substitute, you know.
Yeah, for sure.
Whereas for me,
I would be very happy to be vegan or vegetarian
if I just had really good tasting food
and I just didn't need to think about,
if I had enough good tasting food
that wasn't meat-based, I wouldn't miss the burgers, you know?
Yeah, because I would have enough things in my diet, you know.
I like fish a lot there.
Fish is great, fish is great, you know.
We're not even remotely close to getting
like fish textures replicated.
Like, because they've been focusing so much
from meat.
Sure.
I take so much to replicate meat, you know.
Yeah, but I think also it makes sense to try and replicate
like beef specifically, because how much water
and how much methane cows release and that shit.
So it makes sense.
Did you see that video of like the,
those ladies vegan shift that tried to make like steak
but just frying a watermelon?
Yeah, it's a shit.
And she was like, yeah, this, I tried.
It doesn't taste like beef.
Dude, some fish when you cook them right,
tastes like steaks.
Oh, totally.
You ever had swordfish?
Yeah.
It tastes so good.
Hell, you had, uh,
tuna as well, some, some tuna.
Some tuna steaks and like, you know,
like salmon steaks and stuff like that.
What do you mean?
No, some tuna steaks can taste like steak.
Some tuna steaks can taste like, like,
like, really good steaks.
Yeah.
I haven't had it.
I, I, I, like, stop.
No, no, tuna.
It's,
They taste like, they taste a bit tougher,
but to say they taste like an actual beef steak.
Tougher?
No, no, no.
As in like, tough.
That's a one word I wouldn't have exactly.
As if like, okay, as in,
Tuna when also too is like.
As in like, you know, fish normally like very like flaky
and like, they're not, they're not only very flaky,
crumbly, okay, that was what I was looking for.
Like, tuna does not always have that consistency.
I like that. I like that.
But to say that it tastes like a beef steak.
You can cook a,
tune and a taste as good as a steak.
And like, it can have the, the texture
and, like, profile of a steak.
You could do it.
You could do it.
I disagree.
It's, it's, okay.
It's, I know a guy.
It's there.
I know a place.
The one thing, the one thing is that it's just never,
okay, one thing, taste aside,
it's just never as chewy as like a steak.
That's, that's one thing I've never seen,
like, replicated the tuna.
I have that part.
Yeah, I hate the chewiness of steak.
Oh, it's fucking awesome.
No!
No!
No!
I want my food to be like a tire.
Yeah, I want to feel like I'm eating a rubber boot.
The perfect steak is when you like,
you chew into a bit and then the like moisture just burst out.
That's not really like about steak.
You have like the, the juiciness and the, are you kidding me?
Are you, what the fuck?
That is my least favorite part of the steak.
I'm sorry, I'm fucking spinning because I'm getting like
my favorite part.
You're talking to someone who said steak is me, all right?
Like you can't convince me.
Guys, guys, the reason why Wagyu steak is the most top tier steak
is because of,
of the juiceness and the fat that comes out of it.
Yeah, but it isn't chewy.
It's not chewy.
Wagyu is not chewy.
Okay, wagg you.
No, no, no, no.
The thing that says wagg you apart from regular steak
is the fact that it's not chewy and it melts.
It's done.
It melts on your mouth.
It's not one bite.
Like a good piece of fish.
No, no, no, no, no.
Every bite you take, it doesn't even feel like a bite
because it's so tender, right?
Yeah.
Because it's so tender.
That's the whole point of it.
Every bite.
You're saying you want chew it.
I want chewing.
Chewiness, okay, when I said chewiness, it means like with a tuna,
it just feels like it doesn't have that same kind of like,
not toughness, but like, it's, what's the literal word I just used,
tenderness to it. I don't know. Like it feels like it just falls apart.
No, I've had some tuna that is tender as far.
You can have some really like meaty boys. Yeah. Really good stakes.
Like some thick pieces of tuna, like, ooh. You just get a lot of mercury.
And also the thing I just talked about, which is that,
kind of like juiciness and-
You get that?
I'll take a new place.
No, no, no.
I know, here's the thing.
He's the thing, here's the thing.
Like, cause like that fatty tuna does exist.
Uh, but that- no, no, we're talking like regular lean tuna.
Okay, lean tuna, like that has like a little bit more toughness to it, but it's nowhere near the consistency of the state.
I'm taking you.
Even a very tender steak, absolutely no way.
We're all going.
We're all going and I'm not taking a bite of this.
It's amazing.
Easy.
It is expensive.
It's like $40 for the steak.
It's so good.
No, no, I'm not, okay, here's the thing.
I fucking love tuna steaks.
Tuna steaks are great.
That's not one arguing here.
I'm arguing like that you are saying that you've had tuna
that tastes like steak, which is just, which is, yeah, I have.
I have, I have.
No.
I'm taking you there.
I'm shattering your worldview.
Talk to Tom.
When I get back from Vegas, if I have any money left, we're-
Every time I've had something that's a tuna steak,
I'm like, this is fucking amazing.
Is it like, is it an actual?
No.
What if we put it in front of you
without you knowing it was tuna?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
This would be so fucking easy.
This would be so easy.
Because the, the, the drawer of the,
the tuna steak is that when you bite it into it,
like the crust is similar of that to a steak,
because they can cook it that way.
Yeah, get it really crispy.
No, no, but you get on the inside,
it's really, that's what you're saying.
That's what I'm saying.
It's really, really soft.
You don't feel like the muscle fibers or anything,
you know?
I don't want to feel the muscle fibers.
That's the worst part.
That's the worst part.
That's the worst part.
That's the worst with a steak.
That's why I don't like steak.
I hate the muscle fighters.
That is the worst part of the...
It sucks.
When I bite down to like,
I'm doing like a fucking sitamah force of like...
And I can't fucking separate this meat.
I'm like, Christ, I hate that part of a steak.
It's literally the worst part of the steak.
We agree.
Thank you very much.
No, no.
That's how you know that it's a fucking steak, okay?
I don't, I know it's a steak.
I see it.
Give me a good steak.
How'd you like your steak?
How'd you like your steak?
Medium rare.
Medium rare.
Medium rare.
Okay, you get like a small, like the best stakes are,
is when that's like a good balance.
Obviously, you're, you're making it sound like a steak
is fucking a blue steak, you know, where you're just like,
yeah, some fucking reading of raw animal.
Okay, no, like a good medium rare state,
you get a little bit of that, you get a little bit of like
bounce back with like the chewiness and the fat
and everything that comes out and then it just goes down good.
Tuna steak is just way too soft.
You don't get that same resistance.
No, tuna steak is a steak that cuts out all the bullshit.
Clearly not meats, okay.
That's, that's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
Oh man.
You got to take him to this trip to steak place, man.
We're about to lose the brother right here, like?
Yeah, you're wrong.
Fuck sake, I need another beer.
Food probably tasted shit back in the day.
That's be real.
That's pretty why it's fire.
That's probably why it was so good.
Because they had nothing else to compare it to.
They have nothing else.
You get like some soup, bone broth.
You're like, damn.
Okay.
Sounds like a pickman.
Do you remember growing up?
No, no idea.
It was like, I don't know.
I'm not sure about you, Joe,
but pretty sure about you, Connor.
Huh?
Where I think Sydney had a similar experience
where you just didn't have as much experience
to a lot of the different world cuisines
that were just in your area.
You just call me white.
Yeah.
I didn't actually.
Just call me white, guys.
It's right.
No, no, no, but there are like plenty of cuisines now
that I did not have, did not ever have growing up,
like Korean being one of them for example.
Yeah, I mean, for sure.
Where I'd never had a craving for Korean food
because I never tasted Korean food.
But now that I have tasted it,
and I know what it tastes like,
every so often I get the craving for it
that I just did not have growing up.
I think I'd be, what a sad?
You can say that about anything though,
that you first experience and you enjoy.
Like, you can say that about alcohol.
What I'm saying is that,
When we were growing up and we didn't have this like world view
of like all the different things that we tried,
we were fucking content.
Man, I think I told the story once on the podcast.
I still get cravings for a dish that is just
unsavable.
It was just mashed potato with corned beef and just mashed up.
I fucking always wanna eat this.
I mean, that kind of sounds fine.
Dude, it's actually it's so good.
It's so good.
I've come around to corned beef recently
just because like I never like my, my parents like
never cooked with corn beef,
like we never had any corned beef.
It's like the shittest meat known to man.
Right, and it's like,
and then when I started hanging out with Arki
and I realized, oh, corn beef is like
the staple Filipino food to have.
Because it's, you know, it's very,
yeah, that's when I realized,
I was like, oh, it's actually kind of fire.
And now, every now and then,
I get cravings for like corn beef based like dishes.
Dude, try it, corn beef or, sorry,
or spam, which is the corned pork, I think.
Try that, just mash it into a bunch of mashed potato.
It's actually so good.
And I, as a kid, I,
just eat plates of this thing.
I'd clean it up.
So good, I wanna eat it.
There was always that one, like, food item
that I think, like, every kid was obsessed with eating.
I still think beans on toast is fire.
Beans on toast is actually so good.
For me, it was salami.
That's not controversial.
Everyone likes salami.
Like the cold cuts from like this.
Everyone loves salami.
Everyone loves salami.
My sister didn't like salami.
What the fuck?
She was a ham girl.
I think gonna tell me something weird.
Oh, no.
I think it's not so.
Yeah, that, okay, I'll accept that.
Yeah. Salami is just generally loved.
There's a lot of Japanese people
have never had salami before.
That's cab.
It's not cap.
You guys like blue cheese?
Fuck no.
Yeah.
Fucking love blue cheese.
It's fucking awful.
It's like gas in my mouth.
No, it's fucking awesome.
Because like, you know, you have this like,
no, we have, we-
Imagine your friend farting in your mouth
24-7 while you're saying.
Hell yeah.
I just enjoy the fact that a lot of people
are just like,
Ew, Nato, you let it ferment in the ground
and then you eat that shit and it's slimy.
And then here I am in the Western world,
being like, oh yeah, blue cheese exists
where we just made cheese and then we just left it out
for too long and people were like, hmm.
I think because I grew up with so much
like fermented stuff, like like, you know,
Takuan, which is just fermented radish
or like, you know, Nato, which is fermented soybeans
that like anything that was fermented,
I was just like, yeah, this is fine, this is normal.
Oh God, no.
I just grew up with that kind of diet.
Oh, my, she's so bad.
I would wake up in the morning.
I remember, like, when I was at my,
my grandparents' house,
I would wake up in the morning.
My grandma would have, like, a bowl of rice
with some miso, fucking big ball of natto.
My granddad would make fresh, like,
uh, ikanosyokana, like, you know,
the blended squid with the wasami inside of it.
I can't do that.
That was my breakfast, like, when I was a kid.
And, you know, everybody else who looks at that
would be like, what the fuck?
That shit's nasty.
But for me, that was like,
that shit is nasty to me.
For me, that was the staple breakfast.
And now, like,
anything that is,
fermented for me and I'm like yeah, it's fine.
It's just fucking fermented, who cares?
It's good. Leave it and do it.
Yeah, it's fine.
The longer it's there, the better it is.
Honestly, if I had to live off just tea and bread,
I could do it.
I believe it.
I could just live off tea and bread.
This is my British thing you ever said.
If you just gave me a loaf of bread every day
and some tea, I think I'd be no complaints.
You would care of peep out of me.
I could not do that.
Do you know the biggest reason why I think
the massive bread thing became a thing for me?
Because like, I acknowledge now bread
taste great.
Don't just what you're about to say.
I think like bread tastes great,
but I can't like reprogram that part of my brain
that puts bread in like a different category
as like what you would eat as like a main course.
You know?
Well, as in like you can't look at bread as a main course.
Yeah, like bread to me fits the same mental category
as rice does.
Yeah, where I'm like, if I eat a meal of rice,
that's like a really depressing meal for me.
I need something going on with that rice.
I agree.
That's the Asian mindset, bro.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's something that is paired with something that adds and enhances the flavor of the rice.
Yeah.
You know, like, all of the bread.
Like, it's like having bread in Europe was great, but I'm like, this is a great starter
for what's about to come, you know?
Yeah.
And I agree with that.
Do you know how I know anyone who goes, like, this is the biggest test, right?
When, when someone goes to a really like,
high class fucking restaurant.
And the only thing they can talk about
is how good the bread was.
That's how I know it was an overpriced meal, man.
That's like the bit.
Literally 90% of the Italian restaurants would be in general.
It's like, yo.
So, so many times.
I, like I talked to someone who goes to like a Michelin Star restaurant
and I'm like, yo, it was the best bread I've had in my life, man.
And I believe it, I believe it, but I'm like, okay.
But like, how is the rest of the rest,
The meal. Tell me how the rest of the meal was.
That's how they clickbait you to the restaurant, bro.
It's like, y'all, the food is like kind of weird, experimental,
and it's like, it's pretty splitting when it comes to the opinion.
Yeah.
But the bread basket they throw at you, fire.
Yeah, that was the best bread all the time, baby.
Put some balsamic with some, like, you know, olive oil on that shit, fire.
I think bread can be a main if you need it to be.
That's a European in you, bro.
Like, I can't, I can't do that.
I think you're sliced bread is pretty fire.
I mean, slice bread can be fired,
but if I have just sliced bread,
I'm gonna be like, all right, where's the meal?
Yeah, that's the equivalent of being like,
you know, that bowl of rice was kind of fire by itself.
That's fair enough, if you feel that way.
Or like the plain noodles was kind of fire,
you know?
Like, no one's doing that shit.
Salted noodles, that pretty is.
Lightly salted noodles are fine.
You don't.
I do, I like slightly salted noodles.
No, you don't.
Hot sauce is the best invention we've made.
It's like zero calories.
You can add it to anything.
It's just great.
Hot sauce?
Yeah, hot sauce.
Unless it's the Nando's extra hot sauce.
There's no way it's zero calories.
Like, Tabasco is like zero calories.
That's not a hot sauce.
Oh my God.
Well, you wanted to like burn your asshole,
make it the dates of hell?
Kind of yeah.
Yeah, but also it's probably zero calories
because you're not adding,
you're not emptying half a bottle
of Tabasco once you're meal.
No, I think it's actually zero calories
the entire thing.
Really?
It's like very low.
Look it up.
Is Tabasco zero calories?
It's like, it's great.
Well, I can believe that it's very low calories
because I've seen like the viscosity of it.
Yeah, it's water.
Yeah, it's just vinegar with like extra spice.
Look it up, Kai.
Yeah, it's 12 calories per 100 grams.
That's so much, Tabasca.
Yeah, that's, you could not.
Okay, that's basically zero.
You could not apply 100 grams of Tabasco's,
Tabasco.
You basically just be downing Tabasco about point.
It's great, they just add so much flavor to a meal.
I agree.
And I used to not like Tabasco.
I don't like Tabasco.
Really? Yeah. I love it now.
God, it's like, like something.
Come on, no, no, no, no.
Just one thing.
Can we like, we like it, God?
No, no. All right.
No.
All right. No.
Is Tabasco a condiment?
Yeah.
That's why he doesn't like it.
It's like, it like, Tabasco, it's like, okay,
I don't put it on the same level as ketchup.
I'm not gonna like really,
because I just genuinely hate the taste of ketchup.
With Tabasco, it's always-
That's like a cap.
With Tabasco, it's always filled in that gap
of like what should be a hot sauce,
but not really being a hot sauce.
But doesn't that I want a hot sauce?
Yeah, I don't want a hot sauce.
Yeah, I don't want a hot sauce.
Just like a like a lot sauce.
I never want that.
Give me 100% or give me zero, man.
Well, sometimes you have a pasta
and it's like, I don't want hot sauce added to this,
but I just wanna a sprinkle of flavor add.
I don't wanna kick in the ass.
I just want like a flick on the shins, you know?
Like it's, it's not like, it's just like a little bit.
Me as a tie, if I need that, I just put some chili powder on it.
They're like, oh, would you like a meal?
They're like, yeah, and then you hear them
blending 500 peppers out back and they're like,
all right, geek, this is the first round.
You've chucked that in your pet.
Bro, once you've had fresh peppers,
like once you've had like fresh chilies on something,
you, like, Tabasco is just like fucking baby shit, man.
I haven't reached that level when it comes to spiciness.
And it's just, I'm still baby steps right now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I'm just like, I don't, if like, if I want a kick,
I need, I like, I do, I am privileged.
I need fresh, like, I need chilies.
I need chilies, man.
Like, Tabasco just doesn't do it for me.
That's fair.
That is my, that is just my taste palette.
That's fair.
All right.
Hey, look at all these peasant.
Patrons though.
That's it.
Yeah, that's-
Spice for you.
That's it, just look at them.
They're there, they support the show, they go-
Can you tell the difference between a tuna steak
and a real steak, please, tell me below.
No, we're not saying you can taste, fuck it.
No, you're, you didn't want to believe in our argument.
Leave it to the comments, it's fine.
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