Trash Taste Podcast - We Finally Confront Moist Critical (ft. @penguinz0) | Trash Taste #127

Episode Date: November 25, 2022

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Hello, welcome to another episode of the Trash Taste Podcast. I'm your host Joey and I'm with The Boys as per usual and we're kind of doing one on the road right now. We're currently on tour. Not really planned. No. I've winged it. Yeah, but this is a very special episode because of this guy next to me. Introduce yourself.

Hey, my name's Charlie Big Moist. The man who thinks Jojo's part three and four are bad. Oh, we're getting right into it already. It's been two years of like arguments in the shower with myself. how I would defend my point should I ever get the chance so this is great for me okay yeah because I remember if you don't know the context I believe two years ago you posted a video talking about toxic

final fantasy fans to do with donkey's video I believe which was valid yeah which was valid and then on the off cuff you mentioned Jojo and I'm like great he has a point Jojo fans are also toxic but then on top of that I think you mentioned that you prefer part one and part two to part three and part four you're god damn or whatever. And we had to fly like halfway across the world just to say, yeah, I heard you were talking shit, Charlie. That was so weird. I've never had. I've never ever had that thing of

like, yo, what? Someone said an opinion and I like just hit the space fall like, what? Because no one, no one has ever said that. I know. So do you want to defend yourself now that you hear? So I'd like to explain. I don't know. I hate part four. The only part of part four, I like, it hates a strong So I'm not a slice of life guy. Did you watch all of it? Yeah. I've given, I like parts one, two, and five. I love part five as well.

Okay, so part five slaps. That was this opinion predated part five coming out. Yes, but part four, it's my least favorite genre of all slice of life. It was like all slice of life until Kira. And then it was good. Right, right. So it finishes strong, and I hated everything before it. Okay, I can kind of respect that because I think, okay, here's the dichotomy, right?

because I agree with you that the beginning of part four, I'm also not a slice of life fan. It's slow. It's very slow. But I think the best Jojo has been so far, anime-wise, is like the second part of part four.

Because when Kira gets introduced, it's so fucking good. I agree. I like Kira a lot. But I don't think he saved. And it wasn't enough to like get and save it because I was so fucking bored of seeing them just like walk around the city.

Like the manga artist and trying shit was so boring. It's so boring. Oh, yeah. I can't stand it. Okay, so what didn't you like about part three? Just like, kind of get that. Part three, I didn't hate nearly as much as part four. I actually liked all the characters.

I just thought there was a lot of times where it just between the same form of. It was very long. It was very much like a... It dragged so much. Yeah, it was very much like a monster of the week type of thing. Yeah. Which I think a lot of Jojo fans also weren't a huge fan of, but... So you see, that's not the thing that, like, surprised me.

But like, you say you prefer part one over... Yeah, yeah. That's what I want to know. That was the opinion, right? That's what I want to know. I totally agree with these takes, but it was just like, then you say, oh, yeah, part one's better. So we all watch part one, but like, please sell us on part one. So part one is like your classic, like growing up nostalgic anime, right?

You have your dumb Haman, which is fine and cool. It's what you're used to. It's not trying to do anything different, but the style is great. I think Jojo's style's always been really good. And I think it works well with Homo. I love when they introduce Dio. He comes out of the gate like this fucking menace, like he's tripping heads off and shit. Like, he's cool, and it's short. It's not long. So you get, like, a very tight burst of,

like, what you're expecting. Right, right. So I wasn't, you know, like, offended. I enjoyed it. Don't you think, though, like, part one was just, like, a little bit too, like, shaky in a lot of ways? There was even, like, the parts from, like, episode, like, three to five that were just, like, because I feel like part one is, like, Iraqi, I feel, didn't quite know where he wanted to take Jojo. He punched a frog, had wine. I guess we'll resurrect. It's like, that's all cool and all, but it's like, it didn't really like flow as a story in my opinion. I agree.

And it definitely wasn't, the narrative wasn't like the strong part of part one, but I just really enjoyed that it was pretty unashamedly anime tropey. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, it had pretty much every anime cliche for its time. Yeah. You definitely practiced this argument. I have literally done every... You explained yourself pretty well with that. I just, yeah, even with that in mind, I just can't...

The last part of part four. four was so strong that I don't think I could even, like I think part four is better than three, two, one and five. Can we all agree part two fucking slaps though? Yes, of course, of course, of course. I think part two is like, I wish part two was part one. So then that would be the introduction. Because part one sometimes puts people off because it's really odd and didn't quite hit

the feel for the, well, you know, part two, he kind of figures out what he wants to do at Jojo and he kind of gets more campy with it and gets more fun and he lets the characters be weird. Whereas part one, he's kind of still sticking to traditional character archetypes except for Dio is just weird. And Dio has always been really weird. I guess that's why he's reused him like 19 times. Yeah. Because I think what really sold me on Jojo in general was actually when part two started.

Because I saw part one. I just thought Jonathan was like a really, really boring main character. I thought, is all of Jojo going to be like this? And then you see Joseph and you're like, holy shit. This is so much fun now. Oh my God. It's the bit of the Tommy Gun. When he whips the Tommy Gun,

Oh, this is not going to be a normal show. This is going to be special. When he was doing the training and climbing up that fucking pillar, I don't know, everything about that was so high. It was just unreasonably hype for something kind of like smaller. And just the weird insert of him just staring at his mom in the back. And it's like, why would this be like in, like, this does not fit thematically with anything that has happened in this? For me, it was like right at the very, very, very beginning, like chapter one of part two where like he takes the Coke bottle.

Yeah, the Coke bottle like fizz. That's that. Immediately I was just like, yeah. Racism is no more, thanks to the harmon. It's just like, oh my God. Okay, but real question, though, now that we've like kind of all caught up and, you know, you obviously watch par five, right? Yep. Have you watched part part six?

I've started it and then I haven't watched the second part of part six because the Netflix releases. Oh, yeah. It's dodged. Yeah, I know. It's great. Part six, I think so everything I've seen so far is good. Yeah, part six is fantastic. Yeah.

Where would you put part five then in a higher off? Part five would be right behind. part two, but just barely. Better than one, two, three, and three. So it'd be two, five. Yeah, two, five. I haven't finished six, so I can't even scale that yet. But six is better than two,

than one, three, and four so far. For me, the only thing that really holds back five is Giorno. He's kind of boring. I didn't think so. I thought he's really? No. I feel like every other character is more interesting than Grono.

I mean, the side character is definitely, like, Boucherati is, is the main character that should have been. Yeah, Routherty is like carries the whole thing. And then the other boys are a bit more, you know, it feels like he's kind of more Jonathan-esque. Like, he had a bit more character in the start where he was kind of more conniving and then he kind of drops it real quick

when Richardi turns out. I feel though that's like a very common trade with Jojo because like even in part one, like Zepali is way more interesting of a character than John. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. He's amazing. See, I hold that opinion for part three

because I thought Jotro is a bit more of like the more cleaner Jojo's, you know? The dude bro? Yeah, just the dude bro can like, can do everything perfectly. but like the entire crew of part three is what sells it for me. It's like the ensemble. I agree.

I hated Polaro for the first time I watched it. I wasn't a fan that Kakkewing carried it for me. Of course, of course. I loved Polnerf right from the game. See, I know people love him. And it was the kind of fun afterwards where I'm like, yeah, I think I like it looking back. Yeah. But if I watched it again, I think I would be like, no.

Yeah, no, that makes sense. That makes sense. Pothere is long. It's way too long. Way too long. Oh, shit. I'm. constantly impressed with the sheer amount of stuff you watch.

I watch pretty much everything. How do you, okay, it blows my mind. Your schedule must be stupid. Like, how do you watch all this? And then you review every movie, I swear, that comes out, and then you're uploading twice a day, you're streaming, all the, where do, are you like on second monitor while streaming, you're watching shit?

No, man, I don't know. I just find that there's, I stay up late, like, 3 a. 4, every night, and I have been since, like, college. But I've always found, like, there's always enough time. As long as you're having fun, time moves, for me, like time moves slower

when I'm having fun so I feel like I have more time to do shit. Yeah, because I swear to what, you watch more anime than like most of us. And also...

You review more anime? Yeah. Yeah. You're definitely running like anime YouTube out of a bit of it. Because you're doing that on top of everything else

you're doing. Yeah. Yeah, I would like to know your secret because I've been watching like doing anime as a job for like fucking five years now

and I'm like struggling at this point because it's just just so much shit. It's all coming at once too, which is a little rough. Because you're having, because, like, it's all coming from different places. Like, Netflix has Jojo's Part 6, and they've got a terrible release schedule. Yeah.

And then it overlaps with other shit that have come out seasonally. Yeah. So it's, I don't know. It gets convoluted. Yeah. But because you, like, review so many different pieces of media, I got to ask, how does anime fans rank in terms of, like, toxicity, compared to, like, gaming movies, TV shows?

I've always wanted to know. They'd be at the bottom. Oh, really? Really? Anime fans, even when I have a tick, they don't like, even Jojo's, it's, it's like, a couple. jokes. I This is, we're going to reopen an old wound.

I didn't mind the newest Terminator, the one where they just killed John Connor off. Because like it was just fun, goofy action. It's like, hey, John Connor absolutely fucking sucked in Genesis. Trash and Salvation, Terminator 3 bad. I'm fine, killing him off. I got so many Reddit threads and tweets about

how fucking wrong I was. Even with Jojo's, no one's doing that. I didn't even have people watch the new Terminator movies. I thought it's just like some kind of tax laundering thing. No one, like they're bad, like they've been bad for a while, but the new one, I think it's Dark Fate or something? The one with, the model Schwarzenegger, like, has a brief appearance.

Yeah. I didn't even know they were still making them. It looked dreadful. It looked terrible. I went to see it because I thought it would be bad, because Genesis was an unwatchable dog shit mess. It was terrible. But I went to see it and I was like, I don't mind it. It's nothing but this new Terminator, this lady killing the, you know, the basically same

Terminator from Terminator 2. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was fun. Yeah. I think you're going to say the gaming fans are the most talk to it. No, it's absolutely the movie fan. movie and TV shows. Gaming's rough, but movie and TV shows, they get rabid. So the Terminator thing, the worst thing that ever happened? Terminator was bad.

There was an entire YouTube channel. They did a two-hour podcast dissecting how wrong it was about it. We should make this two-hour podcast dissecting their podcast. They were so mad. It was wild. No one else has done that anywhere for gaming, for anime, anything. It is absolutely the TV and movies. They're the most rabid.

That's so weird. hear because you know I see some of the shit like you know donkey gets when he basically reviews a JRP and I'm like I'm glad I don't have to deal with those you know it must be just like something with donkey they don't like him in particular his takes are spicy on JRP's for sure but like I I mean I have spicy takes on gaming too like Red Dead Red Dead Redemption I think is a bit overrated first or second on both second one or Red Dead Red Dead Redemption too like I think it's a bit overrated it's a great game but the gameplay's dated yeah needlessly tedious

Like, it's a great game, but I think it is a little bit. I can hear the Reddit threads already. People get, like, mad for a minute, but then they're like, whatever, I still like the game. They don't do that for movies and TV. They don't. It's like, if you don't like it, you're fucked up, and here's why. See, because I feel coming from, like, the inside of the anime community,

I feel that's what the anime community is like to us, where it's like, you say one opinion, and they will hold on to that shit for the rest of your life. Yeah, yeah. And they will never let you go for it. I mean, it depends on the anime, because Jojo, yeah, We are, like, Jojo fans are very, very loud. Yes.

I feel like... I think they have a sense of humor, though. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. We're not aware. Yeah, yeah. They know they're annoying. I mean, it's Jojo.

Of course you guys are self-aware. You watch Jojo, you know? Yeah, of course. But, like, I feel like, especially with, like, I've seen way more toxic, seen some of, like, the more mainstream anime, like, attack on Titan fans. They used to be, like, really chill. Then ever since, like, season three, season four. And then it got mainstream.

Yeah, basically, basically, right? When it got, like, super, super, popular. That's when I saw the toxicity just like fucking skyrocket. Yeah, I don't know. It's it's super weird and I'm not sure what like like as well. Does toxicity perhaps have to correlate with how mainstream something is? That was profound. The more mainstream something is, the more toxic. Yeah, I mean, but then I feel like a lot of people just then it gets to that it becomes so meta, right, where then people will make a whole big deal about complaining about this tiny group of people. But then they're just the bigger group of the ones complaining about the annoying,

toxic fans. And then it becomes this whole self-fulfulfilling prophecy kind of bullshit where it's like, yeah, you just, Rick and Morty fans were a little bit annoying, but they weren't that bad like everyone made them out to be. It was like one Reddit post and they ran with, I don't know why I'm really traumatized. They like ruined Rick and Morty. You can't watch Rick and Morty now. Otherwise you're like, oh, okay. Yeah, that's so funny. Your IQ's not funny. Yeah. I thought the new season was okay. I thought it's been fine. It's It's been watchable. It's been okay.

It's fine. It's good. It's better than The Simpsons. Like, what am I going to do? I'm not going to watch the Simpsons. Yeah. Do you have any other, like, hot anime takes then? That has got...

Let's bring them all out while you. Yeah, so since we're going down the hot anime takes, why not give, like, probably the hottest? I hated One Piece for the first... For the least the first 80, 90 episodes. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Big mistake. First of all, you're watching the anime. Yep. I've heard. I've heard. So, does it get? So I'm at, I finished Alabasta, I'm at Skypeia now, it's much better. Like, it's definitely improving.

Where am I at? Yo, before Alabaster. I'm right before Alabast. I'm reading it longer. Yeah, okay, okay. Did you like Alabasta? Alabasta was much, much better. That was the first time I was like, this is much better.

Yeah. But let me go ahead and explain this. Go on. I hate, absolutely hate that they don't kill any characters. I think that is so silly. Like Pell takes a bomb up into this. How far are you in Alabasta? You can say it.

You have a son. Yeah, he has a son of it. You can say it. There's been, like, moments where I'm like, okay, like, there was, I can't remember, it was the arc before, it was when they were on the giant island. Whiskey Peak? Yeah, and there was this whole, like, it was, I was, been reading the manga, and I hadn't really got bored with any of it.

I was kind of like, I was like, okay, I know it's going to get better. Yeah. But there was one fight where I was like, yeah, this feels really dated and, like, it made it feel really old when they were, like, fighting with the wax thing. Oh, little art. It was a whole thing where they were just stuck in wax, and it was just like, what is this fight? This is shit.

Well, I mean, you also have to understand it's a 20-year-old. No, right, right. It's like you read One Piece and it feels old. Like, it feels like a dated manga because you could never have a manga this slow-paced like come out today. Well, that's why I'm surprised you're actually watching it because as a One Piece fan,

even I wouldn't like advocate for watching One Piece anymore. It's that the anime is so old now and so like slow-paced. It's back in the day when it was like acceptable. just to have like filler everywhere to just drag things on for as long as possible. Well yeah, because there was only like what, maybe 20 new series per year that came out back then so people were like more I guess like patient

towards like slow-upil. I mean like fucking all the you know like first or second season and Dragon Ball episodes. Oh my god, they're much watchable. It's so incredibly slow. It's insane. Like I can't imagine me being like five years old being like, this is the most high octane shit ever.

And you watch it now. It's just like two big bros just standing there staring at each other for 20 minutes. It's like, nothing's fucking happening. I think a lot of the reason why people would get angry at you for that take is because I think One Piece fans who've got so far, you know, it's like looking at this child. They look at Rose Tinted Glasses. It's like, you know, I loved it as a kid.

How can you not like it? And you're like, I love this thing so much now that there's no way the start could have been bad. Right? Because it's like I, this is because people who like One Piece really, really like One Piece. And it's like their identity and that they, it's everything they're obsessed with. I mean, the fact that there are like 20 plus channels that can make a living of just talking about One Piece, like, name another property where you can have that. Like, Darita.

No, no, there's like two channels. Bleach. There's like, I'm darling it back. There are a lot of channels who just cover the manga or talk about the show or fan theories who can only do that and can make a living. And there's room for more than like 10. It's crazy. Like no other anime you can do that. Or video, maybe video game you can actually, that's fine.

League of Legends are some show. Okay, I mean, I mean, there's some video games, yeah. There's some video games that are just like, like, last. Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. Well, I mean, the One Piece, I feel, though, is on just a completely... Go broke. Yeah. Go broke.

I feel that One Piece is just, like, now on a completely different caliber that, like, it's very difficult to, like, compare it to other manga series out there. It's pretty sold more copies than the Bible in Japan. Like, I mean, obviously it has, because... No, no, I think, I think it's, like, it's, being close. if not already the top selling like comic period. Yeah, ever. Yeah, yeah, like beating out like even like Batman and Superman, I think, which is like...

Which is insane to think about. That it's fucking One Piece, you know, you think about how iconic Batman and Superman is. Like in terms of like volume sold, One Piece is getting up there. But yeah, I mean, like the fan base are very, very dedicated. It's a lifestyle. It is a lifestyle. You don't read like a... You don't read a...

thousand volumes and not I don't see it as part of your identity unfortunately, yeah. But I'm excited to see what you think of like future arcs though. I know where it goes because my girlfriend, she binged all of it. She's caught up.

Yeah. So like a thousand something. Yeah. So I know where it goes and I really like where it goes. But the journey to get there is fucking miserable. Oh yeah. I'm really, knowing your Jojo takes now,

I'm like fully expecting you to just have the hottest one piece case when you like quarter. I thought Sky Island was the best arc. All 7 was kind of sheer. I do agree that it does feel like the characters are a bit invincible, at least in the start. Not only that, though, I feel like they're not changing. Like, Luffy's exactly the same right now where I am as he is in the beginning. That's what I said, but apparently, everyone keeps saying change.

I believe it may. It has been improving. I still don't like that no one dies. Like even the, I know like four major character deaths, I won't spoil anything. But like you're past Arlong. But it took like a thousand chapters to kill four. Exactly. Like Arlong, the only.

doesn't die, like Arlong's this terrible, horrible man, he gets defeated by an axe kick, never to be seen again. They talk about him like once or something later on. It's just, that was weird because like I remember reading that part and I thought, oh, he's going to just pop up, pop back up because it didn't really feel like he was gone. Yeah. And then it just ended. And I was like, oh. Yeah. He didn't die. He was incapacity. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Was his Pokemon fainted? Like, what are yeah. Yeah. Yeah. To counter it, though, to counter it, because I think, because since I've been a One Piece fan for a long time, I remember having the same criticisms about One Piece being like,

no one seems to die. Why? There are many opportunities for, like, a character to die. And then it just felt like he was never going to kill anyone off. And then when you get some of the first major deaths, you realize, oh, he's been saving it for like this moment because those moments like are fucking iconic in like anime and manga now. And I think...

Yeah, no, I agree. Because I feel if you have a manga that's going on for that long, especially. And you've just been constantly killing off characters. After the 20th death, you're just going to be like, yeah, all right, what's the bet he's probably going to die again? Yeah. I feel like it gets overdone, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Just thinking that you could

make the most iconic character there, but it still won't be more iconic than the Tokyo Gould fucking panel. You know, the you know this, no, you know. I don't think so. Yes, you do. I only watch Tokyo Gould one and two. Oh no, it's, it's in the manga, yeah. It's in the manga. It's that.

That's always on Twitter. Oh, yeah. Everyone's seeing everybody. Dude. That's always on Twitter. Literally was never left Twitter. Like, really the most iconic manga panel level. It's so fucking.

It's so weird because I finally got the context of that for the first time. And it's a really serious. It's a really, really seriously, but I like could not take it seriously anymore. Because it's just been, I've just seen it so many times. It's like when you watch that movie that you only know for the memes and then you actually watch the scene in context and you're like, I know this is supposed to be serious. serious, but I fucking hate that I can't take it seriously. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But one thing I've always liked about your anime videos and your just videos about reviewing

media in general is that you always come through it with such a like a different lens from like how like hardcore fan bases would view it. Like if I see if I see review an anime, I know I'm not just, I'm not just going to get an anime fan's perspective, but someone who just likes media in general, you know, and I think, you know, I think I think that's something that's really, really missing in the anime community, in fact, because so many people in anime, for the longest time, if you're an anime fan,

you're an anime fan, you're not, but you don't consume any other media. Yeah, yeah, right? And I think a lot of anime fans forget, especially, anime's fucking weird a lot of the times. I think we've just, like,

I think we've just gotten used to a lot of the weird shit that we can't even, like, pinpoint it. Yeah, right? It gets a little wacky, I agree. I'm very tired of the trope of everyone, one's like a middle schooler when it has no place in it. Tokyo Revengers, I get, is based off of the guy's, like, actual experience. But why the fuck are they still middle schoolers?

They could have been adults. It literally, like, made the show, like, two points worse. Absolutely. Just because they insisted on keeping them, like, 13. There's no reason to. Like, they're riding motorcycles. Their parents aren't present. Like, there's no reason.

If you just look at the character designs, you're like, you can't tell me he's a 14. There's literally, there's a guy's like seven foot. You literally look like 27. Seven foot gets stabbed and lives. He's 14, fuck off. No way. But isn't it weird that we're okay, we're not okay with that when it comes to something like Tokyo Revengers?

But if it's something like Bucky, we're like, yeah. I think because Backey never asked you to get invested in like a serious emotional way. God, Bakke's so good. It's so hot. It's so insane, man. I think we've been saying we're like, if only it caught on a little bit more, it could easily be like that Jojo level of show of like kind of meme. They need to increase the animation budget, though.

I don't know if you watch the recent ones. It's like very much like still images that they shake a camera on. Yeah, yeah. If it got like Jojo's level of animation, I swear, it would be like as popular, I think, yeah. Backy's done weird as shit than Jojo. Oh, not even a comparison. Yeah.

I just love that Becky will do the stupidest shit, but it will deliver it to you in the most serious narration. It'll be like, oh my God, just the just the fact that he literally powers up after he loses the best thing in the world. How is that not like the most iconic scene? And his dad's just like, seen this. All right. That whole season was amazing.

I can't remember the big mafia guy's name, but he comes up to him. Hanyama? Yep, Padayami. They're at the river, and he comes up, and he's like, your girlfriend. Does she want to be a prostitute or something? Well, no, I don't think so. And then she's, like, getting really serious. Like, oh, my God, Baki, like, maybe I will or will.

There's like such a weird scene. I remember watching that, I was like, this, this is amazing. Like, this is the best show. And everyone forgets, he's 14. Yeah. It's like 8 feet tall. He gets revived from drinking like 10 litres of sugar water. Can you say some Japanese YouTube or try to do it?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So have you seen the scene in Baku? I think it's the second season. Yeah. Where like he gets like poisoned or whatever and he like gets really, really skinny. Oh yeah, that was after the slumping guy, right? Yeah, yeah. And then Detsukaiyo gets like, all right, I know how to revive him.

And he gets this like 10 lit of bucket. of water and 10 kilograms of sugar and he's like, drink it. And it somehow revives him. And then it somehow revives him. And I saw this Japanese YouTube, he was like, I wonder if you can do that in real life. And so he literally got like a bucket of water, 10 liters, put 10 kilograms of sugar in it and started drinking it.

He maybe got like one 50th of the way and just like threw up all the other people. It's like, can confirm. Does not work in real life. Just gives you diabetes, man. Just die. Just instant diabetes. Oh my God.

Yeah, I noticed you do a lot of like, okay, let's talk about Moby Huge for a second. How did that become like a meme? I saw it on Amazon. You saw it on Amazon. Wait, wait, wait, what did you mean? Just see that on Amazon? Because they give you like the recommended based on things you bought. And like I bought dildos before, usually from Adam and Eve, but Amazon had some weird stuff.

So I bought from there. They recommended Moby Huge at some point. I was like, wow, that's kind of nuts. It turns out Phase Jeff had had one at some point. So then I got to see it in his video before ordering. I was like, that's pretty good. So then $600 later, got a Moby huge, never looked back. It's great.

I got to ask, why did you go through a phase of buying Duda? Yeah, why? I'm like, oh, I mean, no one, you know, no one else was brave enough to test. Like, what are they capable of besides just putting them in your butthole? Like, I needed to see, you know, can we make a car out of it? Yeah. Can we hit pinatas with it, you know? Like, I had to test it.

I think that's why people really enjoy your stuff. It's like, you ask the questions that no one wanted answers for them. too afraid to answer. Maybe that's a better way of phrasing it. Have you ever thought about buying some of like the weird ship from Japan? Because there's a lot of fucking weird shit in. We bought an ovipositor. I don't think it was from Japan though, but that's the egg.

A what? Oh, you guys don't know obvi positors, eh? No. It's a, so it's like a pseudo-dil-do, but it's really spongy and flexible. And it's like an alien weener. But it has egg inserts so you can push like a lubed egg through. So when you insert it, you can put eggs to yourself. It's pretty cool.

So we got those. We got three. Why? Do you remember what they were called? Danny, I'm sorry to bring you in like this, but they had cool names. It was like the Shukishu. The Shikushu was like the long.

Yeah, the Shikushu was like the long. Is this like a fetish? The floor. The florp was the great one. The Flaw. People went into like the egg being. The Avi Positor community. That's a community?

Yep. I'll talk to today. Yeah. I think they're just happy to see their project. This review was dishonest of it. the floor but I'm fuming I'm gonna be a four-hour podcast exposing oh my god those were so cool they were great yeah so but like speaking of which like you know including the Moby Dick and everything on Moby Dick Moby's huge like you what

upload what twice a day usually yeah but one of them is usually just stream highlights whether I'm playing a game or going over like a goofy topic and then the other one will be a video I said that so like yeah so like one one question I want to ask like just as a fellow content creators how do you not get burnout? I think he's just from doing different things there was absolutely a time like just doing gameplay commentary I'm like this is getting

kind of the same. He started doing Halo right? I started back like initially I started in 07 and it was Gears a war. All right right right. Those were the first videos I like made myself. Yeah, damn. And then it was Gears a War and then I transitioned gears war to Halo. Then

around 2010 I started doing fun tactics for Battlefield which was the commentaries and then from there gameplay commentaries that you know always fun but started to get a little stale so then started doing like infomercial dubs I remember the informational dub so I just always kept trying to spend new content to keep it fresh I feel like if you stay in one niche for too long it gets a little stale for you yeah yeah exactly yeah I've been there I mean his name's the anime man and he doesn't watch anime anymore I haven't made anime content like over a year I think that's the way to do it though right

Like, you don't want to force yourself to make something. Because then it's not fun for the audience. It's not fun for you. Absolutely. But why two videos a day? I just have a lot. Do you ever feel like, fuck, I really want to make this video, but I just don't have time to invest into it?

No, I always have plenty of time to do stuff. Like, if it's a bigger project, always make sure to allocate time. Bro. Please. Teach me. Yeah, right? You must have, like, time management of skills three. When you say, like, bigger project, I should imagine bigger dildos.

You're like, you're bigger projects in the work. You're like, we're making a sense. Seven foot yellow. Yeah, this one's out of marble. If there's one thing I want to see you make a video on, it's featured in one of Joey's video, but do you know what Tanger is? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So there's this Tenga that is basically like an Iron Maiden. Oh my God. That is basically like, how heavy was it again, Joe? It's 15 kilograms, so it's like, what, 25, 30 pounds? 30 pounds. Yeah, yeah. And it's basically, it's like, yeah, like a steel case for your Tenga,

and the sole purpose of it is so that you can work out while you jack-out. Yeah. So it's like a shake weight almost It's like a shake weight, yeah But like if you dropped it It would probably Oh it would destroy your day So you're not going for any records

But like Tenga has like so many Like I did a video with Gant Where we tested out like all the Tangers that they have at the Tenga headquarters And they have so many weird ones They have a vending machine for them now don't they Yeah yeah they do they have like Maks So they like they have the Tango

And it transforms into like a Mac It's like a Tango I don't know But you can't actually fuck the Tenga It's just like a toy that is in the shape of a tango that can turn into a Mac. I don't know why Japan is just, you know. Teng is just one of those companies where it's just like, should we make it? Yeah.

Yeah. Why not? The answer is yes. Yeah, the answer is yes. Before why. Yeah. And I can respect that. I can respect that.

Yeah, absolutely. But what's some of like the weirdest contraptions you've like found? Because your dad makes some weird contraptions that you've shown that are in your studio right now. Yeah. So he's, My dad likes to make goofy stuff. So he made the Moby Huge into the go cart. You guys saw that.

He's made the automatic ass wiping robot, which it doesn't work. It just like peels your ass off. How does that work? So he got a rotating motor and he put like a scrubber on it. So instead of toilet paper, it's just like a scrubber to scrub your ass. But it goes so fast that you can't use it. You'd hurt yourself. I just feel like a bidet solves this.

Yeah. He does it just for the joke of it. He doesn't actually want to use this. He's like, son, I just, I think, yeah, a few more iterations will be getting up. I think my V2, it'll work. I think he should rename it to the hammerwood machine. It's probably the one thing you'll get you. Just shave like pieces of your ass.

Piece of your ass. Oh, fuck. It's like your ass too fat, or I get on that thing, man. Shake some off. I don't know what the weirdest thing I've ever seen would be, though. I'd have to really think. Was there one thing where you looked at and you're like, this is too weird to turn into a video?

Yeah. So we, it wasn't in the back bill. I don't know if we got rid of it, but we had 32 pounds of pussy and ass. It was this giant... Hold on, Pauls. Okay, explain. So there's a place, a local chain called The Todd, which is just, you know, normal sex shop, but they had something called 32 pounds of pussy and ass.

Yeah. And it's just this giant ass and pussy. And our idea was to do a toilet paper tier list by smudging chocolate on it and wiping it to see, like, which was the most absorbent. It was Danny's idea. And we couldn't do it because the pussy and ass, like, it's too fat. Like, you can't actually show it. You have this here?

I think it's still there. You got to put all the old-shame machine out. Too dummy things. How big? How big is it? Could you, with your hands? Yeah, how big is it? It's like, like, it would sit in your lap.

It's big. It's gelatinous. It jiggles. It makes cool noises. Like, when you slap it. How much is it? Oh, it's like 80 bucks. 80 bucks?

That's cheap. I thought it was a rock. The silicon costs. How high? Oh, 300. Oh, yeah. Was it? What am I thinking of for 80?

We definitely... No idea. Some motherfucked up there. Especially you go to the store, you're just like fucking negotiating that they go. Best I can do, best I can do is 10 bucks. Who else is going to buy 32 pounds of pushy and ass? I'll take six movie huges right now, a 20% discount. I'll get them out of your store.

He goes, I'll take your entire stuff. All the sex stores are know you by name locally. Yeah, I golly. Oh, shit, here he comes. Is this just the shit that happens in Florida? Yeah, I mean, I'm sure the Todd sells plenty. They have lower ones. Like, if lower models, they have 20 pounds of pussy and ass, they have 10.

Like, you know, they have... Small, medium a lodge. Yeah. They have sizes, but I don't think anyone's going to the Wombo like we did. So where this obsession with, like, the sex toy stop? Just because it just seemed fun. Just because no one else was really getting goofy with it. I thought it'd just be a fun piece of content.

You know, YouTube normally would crack down. Yeah, does that kind of content get, like, age or street? Some of it does. some of it doesn't even get demonized, but some of it does get age-restricted if it get, like, really egregious with it. I wonder what the YouTube algorithm just thinks these items are.

I don't know. They're throwing a small child around. Like, what does I think it is? I'd love to know what the machine is analyzing it. It's like, yeah, well, that's a half a human. Yeah, they definitely don't register it as a weiner. Why would you? It's huge.

Oh, my God. I've been curious in a completely unrelated to the sex. We can get me back into it later. something comes up, but I, when you announced that you were doing Moist E-Sports, I was like, damn, that seems like a really hard thing to break into it. Yeah. Yeah. So like, how did that all come about? Because I am fascinated by that. And you want to explain Moist E-Sports? Yeah, yeah, yeah, most of the world. So Moist E-Sports, it's our e-sports org. So it started kind of accidentally. It's something we've always wanted to do. But in August of last year, a smash player by the name

of Cola who had competed in our tournaments and had won them, he hit me up on Twitter. He's like, lobbying for Summit, which is a huge Smash Bros tournament. He was like, can you retweet this? I was like, bet, but I'll do one better. I'll make a whole org around it and really hype it up. And then it actually, like he got in, it actually looked like, you know, Cola had a chance of winning it. Moist E-Sports can be like a legitimate presence.

So then we ended up signing Aaron, which is another Smash Bros player, who's a friend of Cola also at Summit. And we did really well and we were like, got to keep this going. So then we just put our foot on the gas. It's super hard to get into because it's so, Yeah, I was going to say, I heard the one thing is that, you know, the reason why a lot of these, the, what are they called the, I don't know, e-sports agencies, what are they? It's organizations. Yeah.

I mean, they're all venture capital, right? Yeah, hundreds of millions of dollars because they just bleed money. It's just hemorrhaging money forever, basically. I think, I don't remember exactly, but I think it's only two of them are profitable right now, and it's not from their esports. It's 100 thieves because of all the merch they pump. Yeah, yeah. And I believe the other one was TSM. Yes, TSM, because they have like a massive, that.

that goes all the way back. And no other Esports agency moves money. No, they're all bleeding money. I'm sure there's some that maybe make profit here and there, but for the most part, you're bleeding money. That sounds like a bubble. Well, it's, I think for those, like, for companies that try and like get into the esports scene to try and like,

because there's a huge multiple because everyone wants to be in there. So they try and build it for three years, sell it for like, I think it's like a 10x multiple right now. So they'll try and make like a big exit with a big influx of cash. Right. I think for them, it's definitely more of like bubbleish, maybe even like a bit of a scam on there in because you're doing it just to sell it

like you're kind of misleading everyone. For us, we just love the space. So we're in Rocket League now. We're in Apex. We're in Splitgate, Smash Bros. Guilty Gear, Brawlah. Like, it's just really fun things to watch because for us, we do it for the content.

Like the watch parties are fun to watch. So even though it's massively negative in terms of financial gain, the content I think is priceless. I mean, yeah, I guess when you say it like that, it's like, what better way to get into a bunch of esports them just have your team to root for. Exactly.

Literally all of them. Yeah. A hundred percent. Watching the chat like spam moist e-sports emotes and like talking about them. Like it's so great. It's super fun. Oh, that sounds like so much fun. Because like me and Connor are big league watches.

No. We don't play it. We don't play it. Just for the record. That's a preface. Just for the record. We don't play it, but we love to watch it. And I know there's a big problem right now where most of like North American organizations,

they like overpayal. they overpay their player salary. Like, it's so inflated, right? And the players suck, you know. Unfortunately, unfortunately. Like, the organizations don't perform well internationally at all, but the players just, like, the salaries just keep increasing. When you're a good player, you go to America to retire.

Because you get the paycheck, right? You know, like, you can just chill out. I think across all e-sports, American players get paid the most. Yeah. Like, across the board. Yeah. It's a law. Yeah.

But like I guess I think you're going about to the right way where it's just like a fun branding thing as well Yeah, this is yeah, you just sometimes you just want to get fun You do something fun in the space, you know Yeah, and I'm sure eventually like with merch and we just got skins in Rocket League like I'm sure It won't always be like a huge massive financial loss like right now it's all out of pocket But maybe at some point it starts to be self-sustaining Yeah, yeah Are you really deep into the financial side or are you more like a hey I just want to do this

Someone else handled the money pot So I don't really I'm not like hands on with the finances I know what's going on I absolutely I like to learn about you Your financial advisors like hey Charlie I don't know what's going on man

But this seems like a bad So pretty much all of like my Twitch revenue Goes right into Moist E-sports at this point Oh shit It's just pretty much all filters there To keep it all sustaining and something Because I saw the whole You made the video about the X Omega Strikers

This cool thing they said that I don't know how the tournament functioned. How did it work? People could play for your team. Yeah, so in the game you go in, you choose what team you want to play for. There was like me, Rakin was the other big one from Brazil. Louis Pichu had a team. Dyrus had a team.

And you just go click, I'll compete for your team. Every when you get accounted for them. We've ever had the most wins after 10 days. Got the first prize, which was 3% of the net revenue of the game, which is a crazy offer. So we went hog wild on. I saw the results, and it was like $10 million, $2 million. And it was like, okay, I think you won.

I mean, that could amount to like, it's a fun game too. Like, it could amount to no money or it could amount to some, but it seemed like an opportunity worth it because fun game, and it could lead to something to help Moistee Sports. Yeah, because I think, you mentioned your video, right, that you mainly the reason you want to do it was you're like, hey, all this money is going to go into Moist E-Sports. Yeah.

I mean, that's just crazy. Like, it seems like a colossal undertaking. It is. It's a lot to get into the field. Do you see it making money, like, profitably in the next five years, or is that, like, even further down the line? Five years, hopefully. Five years is a long time. It would be going out of pocket. True, true.

Yeah, it'd be nice within five years, but obviously. Are there any more games you want to get into in terms of, like, e-sports that you want to bring under? Yep. So we've been looking a lot at, like, CSGO. Valerite kind of shot themselves in the foot with their whole franchising. I don't know if you guys know about that, but they had a big... Well, he just hates Valerine, period. I'm watching Valeran.

I think it's like the most boring thing to watch. I'm a fan to watch. I don't play anymore. Yeah. But, yeah, like all the big ones. League, of course, is a pipe dream, but that's super expensive. Yeah, on those spots, like 15, 20 million. Yeah, it's a lot.

It's a lot of omega-strikes. That's a lot of Omega Strickers. God damn. What do you think makes like a good e-sport? Because it seems like whenever a new hype game gets released, now, everyone's like, oh, okay, when's the E-Streggies? Now, when's the esports starting?

Well, I mean, the Overwatch League was like a, I mean, they manufactured it, right? And then that kind of crashed and then that. So bad. It was $20 million just to be in it. It was so dumb. And I remember, because I liked Overwatch when it first launched, and I was like, oh, okay, let's try watching the esport of this and I just could not follow. It is a miserable esport to watch. I think it's a shit to watch.

It just wasn't fun. It was two tanks, everyone just shooting at tanks forever. Then dump alts, rinse and repeat. It wasn't a funny sport. And there's like no time to explain. I think league has that perfect balance as a spectator sport where there's enough breathing breathing room where you can kind of explain things if a friend's watching with you or you know you can kind of talk through it and the games are long for like 40 minutes and it's very obvious

when something is happening yeah whereas an Overwatch are like I don't know what the fuck is happening genji killed my whole team and I'm like how do I explain this like so you get to reset every time he kills right but then Anna used to rule to empower him and so like it's like actually it's pretty cool it's like what like it doesn't make sense if you don't know the game I think for an esport to be, like, hype to watch, it's got to be fast-paced and it's got to be something you can look at knowing nothing about the game and understand. So Rocket League's perfect for that.

I mean, it's soccer. Yeah, cars. You know exactly what you're looking at. Smash is great with that. Smash is pretty easy as well. Well, just like any fighting game. Yeah, like you... It's two players in a fighting game most of the time.

They fight each other. You know exactly what's happening. And fighting esports seems the most hype. The crowds are insane. Just the community in general. They just like... I want to get into fighting games. just to be a part of this community.

They are massively hype. It's so good. Just seeing the crowds, like, scream and jump around whenever anyone's doing anything. It's literally Pikachu fighting Julie Puff. And people are losing this. It's like, grow up. Like, yo! It's like, this is so surreal when you sit back and think about it.

But, like, it's awesome. And it's just like the perfect level of toxicity as well, where it's just like everyone's shit talking, so nobody takes anyone seriously. Exactly. I kind of wish other esports had that in a way that where it was, it worked, but I guess because fighting games just had it from the ground up, right? And it's one-on-one, so they can talk shit to each other, whereas it's like 5V-5, it's much harder to start talking to shit.

Because you see an interview in league and it's just like, like 90% of interviews are like the most boring, generic PR interview of all time. And then you see fighting game interviews and they're just like, everyone's talking shit. It's so much fun. It's so much better. And like the memes that come out of it as well. I just think like the fighting game community memes are just like peak, man. All of, like, the compilations that come out of, like,

the Smash Bros. Tournaments is the best to watch. Salty Smash Bros. The Salty Smash Bros. It's so good. Compilation 15. Yep, it's so good. I think the only thing in my mind that makes fighting games, like, not a great, I mean, it's good spectating, but, like, on the level that, like,

Lee is. Let me hear you hold take. Just because it's over too fast. They're fast. So, like, when you get, like, a street fighter or Tekin, those games can go by in a single comp. And it's like, you know, you watch League, you can go to the toilet, you can come back, and maybe you miss something, maybe you didn't. But in fighting games, if you miss it or you went out to get some snacks from the store, like the bracket has totally changed.

And like, it's hard to follow the characters. And then, like, you know, you can build up these teams in longer form games and longer tournaments. Whereas, you know, in fighting games, you get knocked out. And then it's like, okay, well, my guy's gone. I don't really, I don't really know who like Chito's XX4 is. And, you know, it's, I feel like the storylines aren't there. as often, like, the way that they get, because you can manufacture it more with like... Yeah, I feel with something like Evo, they do a good job with like, yeah, yeah, you know, creating the story.

Because when you have people who come back time and time again, then you can make stories. Yeah, yeah, right? You have like the top 10 players who are normally at most events. Then you can start making the narratives, right? And if they're there a lot, then it works. Yeah. But even then it's over in minutes. Well, I think the difference is that with something like league, you know, you have organizations, you know.

No, yeah. We're fighting games is very much. Here is the individual player. Yeah, for sure. It's only like one-on-one. So it's like far easier to follow the narrative of this organization like you do with like traditional sports. For sure. It works.

Yeah, yeah. Especially. Yeah. Story arc. We have a great story. Do you? I think so. Yeah.

Are you think, aside from e-sports, are you thinking of, do you ever think you're going to get into like any other business or any other field? Well, I mean, you're also what? You did the comic, right? Yep. That's insane. We're still working on. So absolutely insane. I feel like you're doing so many massive things all at the same time.

Yeah. And it's like crazy to see, especially with the two videos a day plus streaming. You'd never think the guy who buys six giant dildos is like a savvy business. He's trying to like branch out. You know, it's awesome. It's inspiring, honestly. It's just a lucky position to be in to do those things. Like those are all dream things like doing the comic book, doing the e-sports org and stuff like that.

It's just things I've always wanted to do. So to be able to do it is just, I love doing it. Is there like anything else you really want to like take off the bucket list that you can say on camera? You make a whole show from Godslap. We definitely want to do that. We've been working on our Netflix pitch, which will hopefully be coming up sometime soon. Oh, hell yeah. Hell yeah.

Do you want to explain your comic book to the fans? Yeah, so Godslap is something we started a few years back. So Matt, Danny Jackson and I created it. It's just this really goofy, like cyberpunk-esque world where, People are slapping the shit out of each other. There's, without giving too much away, there's some villains like DeFister, who maybe uses his fist as opposed to an open arm. And basically, it's the adventure of AIS finding his place in that world right now as well as eventually squaring off with that guy.

That's the arc we're currently on. I think by the time this comes out, the second, the animation thing will have dropped. Hopefully. So right now the reason, we've had. had issue two done for a while, but we've had a problem with like paper shortages and everything because everything's in a shortage. So it's a little out of our hands at the moment, but hopefully soon. How did the idea come about? Was it from the slapping? Yeah, I was going to ask you, is it from the slapping Olympics? I think it was, it wasn't right after that either, because

Jackson was talking about like some dumb Star Wars shit, because he's a big Star Wars fan. I was like, Jackson, this is stupid, you know, it would be cool, slapping. And then we just started talking. We just started about slapping. And this was right after like the biggest one. I think it was Vassili versus Alesh. That was massive. Yeah. Like I remember when you covered the slapping videos, I would just see a video we have 10 million

views. Oh, it was such a fun sport. I was like, what the fuck is this? It's the most Eastern Europeans for it ever seen. Because it's like, I feel like Eastern Europeans are not happy unless someone is near death. Yeah. I was surprised there wasn't like glassing incidents of like slamming their head on like an actual

pint or something crazy. It was, it went So when is one of them getting sponsored by Moist Esports? Any day now. We'll get out there. We're about slapping. Someone's going to die from that slapping one day. Someone did die. No.

Really? Yeah. And it's actually one of the biggest guys in the scene. His name was Valus. Artur Valus. Wait, what happened? Did you got slapped? Just died?

So the champion Zalesh slapped him so hard that he lost consciousness briefly, but he came to. His brain started hemorrhaging. They had to rush him out and he was put into a medically induced coma and he didn't make it. Holy shit. Oh my God. If you look at the guy though, you would never expect someone like him could even be pierced by a bullet. Like he was one of the biggest men I've ever seen. I'm guessing they didn't halt the sports at all.

He's not the time of sport. No, I'm pretty sure they actually had to stop. Oh, good. That division, I think, had to stop. Because I haven't seen them do anything like that since. That was their big, like, big tournament that that happened. It seemed really bizarre. It seemed kind of like a.

less of an organized sport more of a we have this big guy who wants to try and slap him he is currently the champion yeah it was very much these are fucking freaks and they're gonna slap each other yeah it definitely seemed like kind of like an underground like a circus kind of event kind of like a almost like a guy you get a hundred dollars now the u.s. the u.s. one slap fight championship that one actually is like run like a real sport like they do drug testing they have they have this thing where like if you get knocked out three times you just out because they don't want

CTE, like, I didn't even know those in American League. Yep. Slap fight championship is the American League. Oh my God. It feels way more dangerous than like boxing. It is. Because you can't defend yourself. Yeah, yeah, you're just open palm. Oh, some of those slaps are painful.

I mean, it's basically the equivalent of if a boxer was just standing there, come on, punch me in the face. Yeah, right? I don't know. It's terrified. It is. The thought I'm doing that. Oh my God.

You cover a lot of like little underground sports like this, though. Like, apart from slapping. What are some of your other favorites? Oh, my God. Anyone here a fan of backyard wrestling? No. What is? Please, please explain.

This is as American as it gets. This is very Floridian. No, this is very American. Backyard wrestling, it used to be much bigger than it is now, but it's unauthorized, unsanctioned wrestling events. People just film it? Yep, you just get like a bunch. A lot of times you get like some inbred people, you get a ring, they get chairs. Specifically inbred, they fight the best?

Like what it The dream breeding makes them have no pain Just traditionally You'll get some like actual wild people going crazy So they get chairs And then eventually as it ramped up in the early 2000s They came up with combat zone wrestling CZW

And that's when they used like real barbed wire Real baseball bats And they were just beating the shit out of each other And calling it wrestling They jump off of roofs on top of each other Land on grass not even a ring That's just like some wold stall shit Yeah yeah yeah

And there's one in particular. They were on YouTube. I don't know if they are anymore. It's called P-O-R wrestling. And I'll never forget this stunt. They wanted to go so hard. They had one of them get hit by a moving, like an actual speeding vehicle. So they, of course, it's wrestling, so they script everything.

So they're like slapping each other. Hits them with like a toilet seat. The guy's stumbling. And then a car comes in, it's going like 30. It's going at least 30. Blassive. Absolutely fucking blast him. He flies over the.

the car, lands on the ground, and he's out. I've never seen him again. He may have died. I'm not sure. Never saw him again. Why was he going 30? Because it was hype. It was going 30 at the spectators, too, because they had an audience. At the spectators, doesn't hit me one and just blast that guy. They were so proud they did it again a month later. But this time through a motorhome. So they had two people wrestling on top of a like a motorhome trailer, crashes the car going 30 again through the motorhome at the spectators hits a tree. It is so cool. How are they making money? They don't. They make zero dollars.

They're just destroying shit? They just love it. It's purely from the thrill. Yep, the love of the sport. I thought the DDT Japan was like crazy wrestling. No, you guys have, you guys have like a backyard wrestling subsidiary, I think, like something very similar. I don't know what it's called. I felt the video with DDT, they're like typically the crazy ones, the one who do those

fights with the dolls, the sex toys. Oh, those are awesome. Yeah. Yeah, I went to one of their shows. It was just so weird. It was like, it was, uh, it was, uh, half comedy show, half wrestling. Acrobatics.

There was this whole bit where these guys just got naked and shut their ass, going in like rotation three of them on someone's face. Nice. While he was out. Huge. And then smashed a plastic IKEA box on him.

And it's just like, what is this? That sounds amazing. But then they legitimately have insane, very good talented wrestlers for the main show. But then they have like lower down, they have kind of like,

I don't even know what to describe it like more show, show, found shows. But like one of the guys who I filmed with, he's a AEW now. He's like doing really well. Okay. Yeah, Japanese guy really funny. Yeah.

I think one of my favorite videos I've seen recently, which is something I did know existed in this day and age, was it was a documentary about the bare knuckle boxing scene. Yeah, yeah. Which is like the only reason I knew it exists was wrong. Yeah, the vice one. Did you see that one? Yeah, I saw that one.

Yeah, that's, I fucking love that video. It was like a debt collector who was like a champion from Liverpool. Yeah, yeah. He was from Newcastle, I think. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they were building up to this, like, final event because there's this bare knuckle boxing champion in England, right? And then someone from America, like I think it was a champion from America,

flew over to fight him in England. Yeah, a new challenger. Yeah, a new challenger approaches, right? And so they build up this massive event. It follows, like, both of their stories. And you see the American, and he's like perfectly chisel, would you know? He's exactly what you think a bare knuckle boxer should look like.

And then there's this guy from fucking Newcastle, right? Who's got like this fucking massive beer belly. He drinks and eating like full English breakfast and he drinks like he was like, you know, he has like a proper beer belly. He's drunk most of the time. And so we get to like the day of the fight. And the Americans, the American is there on time, ready to fight. And the guy from Newcastle is like two hours late or something because he's like he's been,

he's been drinking. He's been drinking the night before. And then he shows up in this taxi fucking drunk. out of his mind, stumbling into the ring, and he fucking wins this fight. It's, it's one of the most British things I've ever seen in my life. It literally, it literally felt like a Guy Ritchie movie. Oh my God. If you haven't watched that video, please watch it. It's one of my favorite videos I've watched recently. It's a vice documentary on it? I think it's a vice documentary. It's wild, bro. Yeah. It's a north now. What are they doing? It's like off Florida.

That's one thing I wanted to ask actually, like, how do you like stumble upon these like kind of very, like, weird underground, like niche. You're just got a little people messaging about. Yeah, usually people will tell me about something silly going on. Like, telephone booth boxing is big right now. Okay, hold on. What is that? It's a Russian sport, I believe. They get two guys go into a telephone booth and they just start boxing.

What? It's specifically a telephone. Men will just find 900 different ways to fight each other. It's cool, too. Like, they don't hold back either. They go fucking wild in that telephone booth. And then people, like, tweet at me like, oh, this looks like something Charlie would like, and then I'll check it out.

And you're like, yeah, you're right. This is, I love. What else? Any other weird shit that you like? I'm sure there's some other fucked up shit. I've found so many weird communities. This isn't a community. It's one guy, but there's a guy whose entire channel is built around sitting on things wearing

tight pants. So he sits on like hot lunches and birthday cakes. Oh, I've seen this guy. It's fucking weird. It is. He just, like, he doesn't even do anything sexually. He sits on it and then maybe they, like, moves a little. It sits on the cake one time?

Yeah, okay, I've seen this. Is it like for review purposes? No, it's like silent, right? Yeah, I think it's gotta be a fetish, but he doesn't even do anything sexual. He just like sits on food. I don't know. He sits on an orange in one of them, which is cool.

I'm turned on. I'm interested. I need a find this guy. Yeah, it's not really a community, but I mean, he's kind of cool. He's making the community, man. He's building it. I like to imagine that there's like a secret,

like, ridded community for that guy, right? I don't like the way that he sat on that Ranger. I really wish you changed the angle of that camera. To our podcast. To our podcast, sitting why his ass isn't firm enough. So did you grow up in Florida? I've been here my whole life. Yeah. So as someone who is outside the US, you know, we hear about Florida basically through the internet. Yeah. Is it as crazy as the internet portrays it as? I've always wanted to know. It's hard to say. Like, I definitely know of like really Florida weird shit. Like even here in Tampa, and I've mentioned this guy a lot. He used to be called the

Ebor's shoe licker. What? There's a place in Tampa, well, south from here called Ebor, and there's a guy there who built himself up, like a big reputation for licking people's shoes on the street. So the guy just...

For money? No, for fun. He hangs out, he's just on the street. And if you walk by him, he'll ask if he can lick your shoe. And you expect, like, I imagine you guys are picturing he, like, licks the top of your shoe or something. He looks the bottom of your shoe from bottom to top in like one fell swoop. What? What does he get at it? He just likes it. I don't know.

I don't know. He just likes it. And that's like a Florida staple. Yeah. Well, that's a Tampa staple. Not even Florida. Come on. That's all. Get those all land here. People credit. Yeah. There's one Chelsea knew as well. The senator. He, in Ebor as well, there's a place called the castle. Right. And the guy, his name was the senator. He would go there. He'd go in like a G-string, but he'd always pop Viagra. So he'd go. like chubbed to this club to dance and get wild and wacky. People rock on. You feel like it's like a different planet here.

Like there are those things that exist here, but I on a normal daily basis don't see too much Florida shit. You know, because obviously, like I said, you've been in Florida your whole life. Did you see a progression where you got more weird over the years? Or has it always kind of been kind of odd to like, just less documented? Yeah, I think just less documented.

I think because Florida has like very open law where it's like anyone who gets arrested, it's all public, you can come check it out, and they have videos usually. So it's a whole time. Come check it out. Hey, do you see the new batch? There's some good ones on there, man. Was there like a town billboard, like an animal crossing or it's like, let's see what today is. Hey, go and look at all the wild shit happening in Florida, guys. Here are this week's Florida. New arrests just dropped. Check it out. That's crazy. I mean, I guess that's where the whole white Florida man thing started, right? 100% of it's weird.

I know in where I'm, where I was born and raised, there's a weird public roster of all the criminals. Then when they commit them, they'll have the mugshot on like, this is what this guy did. Really? In like very, not like plain language and very like opinionated language.

Weepers are. Yeah. Yeah, it's weird. Like, I can't believe you got caught. Yeah, weird stuff. Because when you're from a small town, you're like, oh, nothing bad happens. And then you read this, you're like,

Oh, bad bad stuff happens. Yeah, okay. I definitely just didn't know. I'm curious because I recently in the past like year or two got like super addicted and super into Twitch. How did you like you get into it? Because as far as I've ever been on Twitch and watched it, you've always been streaming on it. So I started on Justin TV in 2010. No.

So did you have that thing where it automatically transferred you? No. Because I took a six year break. I streamed in 2010 and I stopped at the end of 2010. Okay. And then I picked it up again in. 2016 but I was on YouTube and then I switched to Twitch in 2018. Right. Justin TV slept though. Were you guys ever on Justin TV?

No, I was not on Justin TV. It was great. Justin TV had like 24 hour reruns of like angry video game nerd four player podcasts. It was so wild back then. Didn't you, didn't they ever rule you weren't allowed to stream non-gaming stuff as well? No, Justin TV was anything goes for the most part, Twitch started his only gaming. Yeah. And they changed after a while. Yeah. Then they eventually added the IRL category. Yeah. That's right. Yeah, because Justin TV was the original streaming platform.

And then because there were so many people streaming games, they were like, let's make a separate website just for that, just for that. Everyone else streamed on Justin.tv. Didn't it all get moved over? Then eventually all got moved over because Justin.combe got shut down. They got bought out, yeah. Oh, yeah, they did. They did. Is it a Tamagotchi?

The fucking Tamagosci is going off. Oh, my God. Are you really? Really? Joey, Joey, really. Sorry. Okay. Give him the fucking Tamagovial.

Give him the bell. He's asleep now. He was just like, I need to go to bed. It's fine. I'm curious what you think of all the Twitch stuff that they recently did. Oh, yeah. Oh, the splits and everything? The splits and a few other things they did.

I mean, obviously they changed, kind of changed the rules on gambling. See, it's a little better. It's a step in the right direction, I think. It's definitely a step in the right direction. But, yeah, I mean, what do you think where Twitch is going? It shows a very clear lack of. like understanding the platform and the streamers. Yeah.

Like, this was a point Ludwig brought up in one that I think is super true. Twitch is super bloated. They have so many engineers, but I can't name anything they've put out that is good in the last five years. Like, elevated chats are dog shit. I think we can all agree.

That's a fucking awful. It's terrible. I don't understand. They don't do anything. What is elevated chat? They added super chat. Yeah, but it goes under the stream most of the time. So you can't see it as a streamer.

What? Yeah. So the elevated chat doesn't elevate. It goes under your stream. and you never see it. It's a complete scam. There is no point. I think they want to get people to not donate.

I think they're trying to stop people from getting donations. Because Twitch doesn't get cut of it. Oh, right? Because it's like, why would we do that when we can't take 50% of it? Right. Yeah, like you said, it seems bloated. And also, it's odd. I remember seeing a few articles that obviously they

replaced a lot of the staff and slowly it became, you know, less focus on like the community and more about the business side of it, which obviously is good. in some senses, but others, it's like, all right, this is a clear message of what they're looking for. But they just don't know how to do it, right? Like, because you would think the last thing you'd want to target is the streamers, because I looked it up recently, 76% of all Twitch traffic comes from the top 1% of streamers. Yeah.

Which, and I think expanding further, it was like 99% of all Twitch traffic comes from the 0.1% of top streamers. Yeah. Which most of the top streamers are on the 70th. Yep, almost all of them. Like, pretty much everyone on that leak is in the same. 70-30 split. So targeting them pushes them to maybe go to YouTube where it is 70-30 and they

usually get a bag for the switch. Like Twitch should be, that's like the last resort taking from the streamers. They should go for like, we have a million engineers. Maybe we start making some cuts here instead. They're not doing anything. It's odd. I don't really know what their objective or goal

with it is. I guess we'll see. I don't know. It just has to be like short-term turnover profit or something. It's like what are they going to do next, I guess, which is kind of the worrying. Have you thought about going back to streaming on YouTube, or are you going to stay on Twitch for a while? I still think Twitch is the better platform

at the moment. I think it's definitely the better live streaming experience as a viewer. Absolutely, definitely. But if they keep shoving so many ads in their face, like it's going to get beaten by YouTube. YouTube, you skip the ads, right? Like it's better. As a streamer, they keep trying to get you to play ads all the time. Yes. Oh, it's so

awful. And it's just because that, like, when you play a three-minute ad, it's a lot. Like, it's so much. And it and it interrupts the content. It's not an ad break. It's like, I'm still streaming. I'm still doing stuff. And now I'm just annoying people because they can't see it.

Whereas if it was an ad break, no one would see anything, and everyone is understanding of the fact that nothing is happening. So that's why the ads are playing. And so I think that's why it's frustrating. Yeah. I remember I had the automatic ads on. Oh, that's, yeah, it's a dance too. Because I had a, I had a, do you know this?

Twitch has this automatic ads thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I had someone from Twitch, This is a very, very long time ago. They reached out to me and they're like, hey, if you run these automatic ads, it's really good. Your viewers really enjoy it because there's no more pre-rolls. That's the way they sold it to me.

And I was like, oh, that makes sense. Yeah, that sounds good. Because if every one minute of ads for 10 minutes on your channels, when people click on it for the first time, there won't be an ad. Right. So if there's an ad every 10 minutes for one minute, there'll be no pre-rolls. But that's a lot of ads. alone. So I turned it on.

And I very suddenly found out that people hated it. They were like... It's very backwards logic. Yeah. Because what you forget is that, yeah, okay, maybe it's good at getting the initial retention. When you actually go and look at your stats, people are normally watching streams, on average.

If you do like a six-hour stream, people are normally watching for two hours. Like, it's a long time. And that's a lot of ads to throw that way. Especially if they're already giving you five bucks a month. You know what? Like, five bucks a month for like... And maybe like the occasional bits and, you know, donations and stuff as well if they're really dedicated. It's like, I'm not Netflix.

You don't get a catalog. I barely turn up half the time. I'm paying five bucks a month for that. Like, then I have to make you sit through an ad every minute. Like, what? Like, at least Netflix, you get like Rick and Morty. Just Rick and Morty. Just Rick and Morty. Just Rick and nothing else.

You get arcane, maybe a Terminator movie. You get, you know what I mean? It's like you're asking a lot. So it's frustrating that they kind of push you to towards this in my opinion. Sorry, I asked this question. I just use it as a vehicle of brand. No, I think it's a good rant to have. The ads are outrageous. They're putting way too much focus on like incentivizing streamers to run ads. By taking that split away, they keep

hyping up their ad incentive program to make up for it, which is super scummy. The ad incentive program doesn't really make sense after you're a certain size. Because the amount of money they're going to give you for the amount of intrusion you'd have to do is not. It doesn't make it sense at all. It helps a lot of really, really small streamers, I think. Give them a an extra little paycheck, but I just don't think it. Like, I've never looked at it and thought once that it made sense. Yeah. Is the Netflix category even still good?

I just... What do you mean? I don't know. Netflix category? Yeah, sorry. Yeah, you were talking about Netflix, sorry, no kind of complete tangent, you know. Netflix even still have a good catalog, sorry. That's what I meant to say.

The thing is, if you don't live in the US, yes. Like, if you're outside of the US, there's pretty much no competition. Think about it, right? In the UK, there's not really much choice. You don't have HBO Max? You can't get HBO Max outside of America. We can't get Hulu. Oh, wow.

You can't get Hulu in Japan, though, but the catalog is shit. And the one thing that does suck is that a lot of the time, because of the way that Japan does things, like, anime will be on Netflix in Japan, but because of the deal, there won't be English subtitles. So it's really frustrating, because if I swapped to, like, if I was in America, we'd have English subtitles,

but they just take it off just for Japan because of some licensing deal. wrong with me. Yeah. Some shows is fine. Some shows I really need the subtitles. It's just, it's weird. But yeah, I think, I don't know, I still watch a lot of Netflix.

I've watched Netflix anymore. I realized this the other day, actually. I'm like, shit, I'm paying for a subscription, basically just for anime. And the anime catalog is like, even, like, deteriorated. Yeah, I watched on the plane right over here. They made a documentary about the... Oh, yeah, you watched documentaries.

I watched documentaries. I'm a fan of documentary. Even if they're dog shit. Like, I just love seeing what people think is good enough for a documentary and seeing how they present the story. But lately there's been this weird trend, and I don't know, there's a few production companies that are pumping these out, where it was about the GameStop stock.

Oh, nice. That was a documentary on that? Literally just came out. Wow. And it's this category of, like, all right, we managed to get, like, six relevant enough people to the story to agree to an interview. from a story that's already like well explained and stuff.

And we'll make a really mediocre documentary about something that you maybe heard about. And then they spell it out in really dumb ways. And all the edits are really, like how they show social media and documentaries and portray it is like they can't just show a Facebook feed. They always have some dramatic kind of angle of some fake Facebook feed. And it's always just looks terrible and the narrator's annoying. And it's always just shit. And this documentary about the GameStop one was just awful. I'd rather have a 20-minute, like, video by Internet History.

Yeah, that's what I was going to say. I was just like, if I want a documentary about the GameStop stuff, it's from Internet History. They turned, like, a 20-minute story into a two-hour thing where they, like, just, they like smash cut. And they do this with everything. It's like true crime, other stuff. There's a few really good documentaries in Netflix, I think.

Like, Untold is really good. I heard the recent Jeffrey Dahmer one was not. That's, like, more of... Yeah, it's like a full show. That's a show, yeah. That's a show, yeah. They had the don't fuck with Katz documentary for Netflix, though, if you saw that. Do you like that?

I didn't finish it, actually. I thought it was decent. I like, I thought the story was amazing, like the actual story itself. It's the people that they got were very pretentious and, like, annoying, yeah. The people they got to tell the story were just really off-putting. Yeah, really annoying. Because that's important, right? The narrator who's telling the story are the voices that were getting it through.

Yeah. Like, the make or break with the documentary. And there's ways you can use it well, and there's ways you can't. Like the, it was the documentary of that guy who's like a, he's, he's, he's insane and he just lies all the time. And he pretends to be, he used to pretend to be like missing kids in America. Oh, I remember, I remember this documentary. I can't ever. And so the whole documentary is told from like his perspective.

And he's telling you how, what's happening and what he did and how it all goes. And then like right at the end, they throw you this twist where like they just kind of make you realize that you've been living. listening to this whole guy tell you the story and that you just took his word for everything and that this guy is is an impulsive liar. Yeah. And so like they throw this bone right at the end that just makes you think like, oh, I think half the shit he just said was just complete bullshit, but you have no idea. Yeah. And it's so good. It's so good because it's like it, I like documentaries that make you question the people who are talking and that's why I like it when there's multiple

sides in the documentary. Yeah, yeah. But more often than not, they only get one side and something like that. Basically what he was pretending about was because there was his family who had a who had a missing child and their child was like missing for years and years. And then years later this guy pretended to be their missing child, right? And he got away with it for like fucking years before people started like asking questions. But when you're following his perspective, he starts throwing in like little, little questions to make you question the family that took him in.

Yeah, he made them seem like the weird. who were trying to hide something. Yeah. He made it seem like, oh, maybe they murdered their kid and they wanted to, they'd be like, oh my god, our kid turned up. And we definitely didn't kill our other kids. Yeah.

But the weird thing is, is that this kid that he was pretending to be, it was from Missouri. The guy pretending to be him was French. Oh, wait, I know this. I know that, I haven't seen the documentary. I know who you're talking about though. Yeah. He's like insane.

Yeah, I know exactly who you're talking about that. And it's brilliant, because he's really, like, he's really well spoken. He tells his stories really well. And it's, I love it when documentaries do this. When they like, take the person and then like, by the way, this guy might be full of shit. Right. And then they kind of use the...

That sounds cool. Yeah, it's really good. The guy's story is pretty interesting. It's insane story. Even if it's lies, it's insane. Like, it's so good that like it's worth the watch. It's really good stuff. Please watch it.

I wish I went over the name. Put the poster on screen, you know. Because it is a really good documentary. I'd recommend that one as well. Do you have like that one documentary you watch that? it just like blew your mind. Oh, this is an embarrassing one. When I was a kid, the one that blew my mind was a very taboo one.

It was called, was it Zeitgeist? The one that was like looking at religion is a scam. 9-11 was an inside job. So conspiracy theory stuff. Yes. I think it was called Zeitgeist or something like that. Zytegeist. Right.

Yeah, it's something like that. And it was like, it was basically a 4chan video. But they put it on like, like, like DVD. And I watched it and I was like, whoa, this is nuts. 9-11 was done by Bush.

When you were like 12, you believed that. Yeah, I was like, whoa, they're making crazy arguments. Yeah. God's not real? Yeah.

Like, I was blown away. Holy shit. I was like the one, I guess it wasn't even a documentary. It really was like to tell your friends about it. I did. Yeah. Did you know,

guys, we didn't actually like crazy. I legit had like a sane thing happen and I was like 12. because when you're 12, you think that, like, people who make stuff, like, movies or film must be correct. Because they make, and it's on DVDs. It's on movies. And I remember I had this one, I think I told this story of the podcast once, but we had to do a school presentation.

And I just watched, it was like in front of, like, a class of, like, 20. I just watched a bunch of things about the moon landing being a baited. Oh, no. I didn't believe it, right? I didn't believe it. And then there's, like, 9-11 stuff. And you know, the whole, like, wingdings? Yeah, yeah.

Where you type in certain things on wingdings on Microsoft Excel, it's, oh my God. It's proven that 9-11 was like, fake. Obviously, all bullshit. So I went to school while I did this presentation. And what I expect to happen was my teacher would be like, you're a fucking idiot. What the fuck's wrong with you? My teacher was like, oh shit. Dude, the wing dings thing is kind of convinced.

At the time I thought, yeah, I'm big brain, dude. And then like days later, my friend was like, dude, you're a fucking idiot. What did you watch? I don't know, some random YouTube videos. And I realized, I just did like a fucking conspiracy theorist pitch to like a bunch of 12-year-old and you're almost convinced your teacher. I'm pretty sure my teachers at this day thinks that Moonlanding was fake. From a 12-year-old kid.

I'm like, if I was able to convince my like 20-something-year-old teacher that Moonlannings were fake as a 12-year-old, I don't think she should have been teaching. To be fair, though, I feel like at age 12 or around there, like as long as you say something, with absolute confidence. You're most likely to believe them. Dude, I, my dad trolled the shit out of me with that kind of stuff when I was little. Oh my god, your dad just like,

what did you tell us the other thing? Yeah, so I said it on one of the live shows, but like, my dad, so our family used to play a lot of like card games, like, you know, like, solitaire, obviously, but a lot of like other card games and stuff like that. And my mom was really good at shuffling the cards. Like, she'd do like the whole, like, flicking the wrist kind of thing and like pulling it back in the hand and stuff.

bridging and stuff. And I'm just like, you know, as like a 10-year-old, you're just like, whoa, that's sick. What the fuck? And then my dad one day was just like, yeah, do you know why your mom's really good at Shuffley? It's because she used to be a dealer in Vegas. And I believe that shit until like age 19.

And like, and I would tell that to my friends. You know, they like, your mom might be cool, but my mom used to be a dealer in Vegas. My Japanese mom used to be a dealer in Vegas. And then I think it was like 19 or 20 or something, my dad was like, son, I have to kind of come clean. Yeah, your mom wasn't a dealer in Vegas. I lied to you this entire time. And I asked my mom about it and she's like, yeah, I've never even been to America. I don't know what your dad's talking about.

And ever since then, I'm just like, whenever I hear something or like whenever someone tells me something in the utmost confidence, immediately my mind's just like, is it really though? Is it really? The first time I found out the Lavender Town, like copy. pastors, bro. I thought it was so real. The kids going insane thing. I was like, I listened to it. Oh my, my. What is it?

There was like this whole thing where it was like if you, what was it, played it backwards or slow or something? No, no. It was it was a creepy pasta which was, you know, Laventown in the first Pokemon game? Because all the Pokemon died. Yeah. Like, which is where like the Pokemon graveyard is. Yeah. That theme song apparently in the Japanese version, they used a certain frequency that only children or certain ages could hear.

And apparently there was like three or four. of like children between the ages of like five and ten going insane listening to the Lavender Town theme from the original Japanese version. And people believe that shit. Dude, I believe that shit. Early 4chan, early Reddit, like lap that shit up being like, yo, Nintendo's got a dark secret, bro. When are they going to come out about this? The dark side of Nintendo. And then, you know, years later people realize it's just bullshit.

Oh man. That's it often is. It's like the whole like Ben Drown shit. Bindrown. That's the classic. That's the classic one. The Rugrats all being dead. Yeah.

And then Nettie, they're all being in Purgatory. Yeah. They're something good about some of the good ones, though. I love that shit, though. Darth Jarjar is a great one. Oh, yes. Darth Jar Jar Jar. Yeah, where Joe, you know that one?

No. When Jar Jar is like a Sikh Lord. It's just like, all right, okay. Yeah, sure. It's like, I know it's bullshit now, but it's like, it's still fun. It's great. It makes stuff was more interesting. Yeah, 100%.

Also, I love telling that to people in a convincing voice being like, yeah, this is real. Yeah. This was actually what George. Lucas wanted. Yeah, this is actually what he wanted. They wouldn't let him have it. Disney was like, you know, it's his company. Disney was going to buy it. I think my favorite hoax that has happened recently

was what happened with the Neal Automata community. Oh, that was the secret little fucking five-head, man. That was so five-hand on Yoko Taro's like part, him just like playing along with it. The thing, the thing I made, so if you don't know what happened, basically, basically there was a video posted on the Nia subreddit of this new part of

Neo Automata that had like never been found before. It was an Easter egg. It didn't even appear on the mini map or anything. No mini map, no nothing. And it was from a user that apparently tried to post this clip on the subreddit to find out how to get out of this area, what this area

was. And there was this entire like odyssey of just this user posting more and more areas of this map that had just been uncovered and this had like the near the near community on like he had them on the tip of their balls

you know he had their ball he had a sorry he had a he had a vice grip on their fucking balls man um and it was and the thing is it wouldn't work for any other game right because for any other game you'd be like oh it's just a mod or it's just a prank but Yoko Taro seems

crazy enough to like forget about something this big. Also Yoko Taro actually made like a statement being like oh my god this is an amazing secret glad somebody finally found it. It was more vague. He was more like, oh, this is interesting.

I wonder how that got it. He made it make it like a really like, yeah, and people are like, oh shit, I should go into the game and try and find it. Yeah. Turns out it was a host.

Unfortunately, it was a mod, it was a new mod community that, you know, had modded the game even though the game couldn't be modded before. Before that brief moment,

dude, near stocks just went like that. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. So it was so big brain. Yeah. I wasn't even like a big fan of

but I was like like eating up everything that was like going that's what the Nintendo needs to do like they need to bring back the Lavender Town thing like like Satoshi Tujori just needs to be yeah yeah yeah I knew one of the kids that like was hostile it was really unfortunate and I actually own the original copy in a vault and Nintendo headquarters somewhere yeah just bringing back Paragon yeah he's not done oh my god Jesus okay I'm trying to think of like other copy passes that were that like back in the day There's none that were like, that reached the level like Ben Dran.

Do you have like a favorite copy pasta from back in the day? It's not really a copy pasta, right? Copy pasta, right? Copy pasta, yeah, yeah. Creepy pasta, not really. I was never a huge creepy pasta guy. I like the video essays on it. Like, Ben Drown was great. Like, that was super cool.

That was good because I felt like Ben Drown was actually just interesting how they made it. It was just fun. It was a good story. Yeah. So not, this isn't a hoax, but my favorite theory, like fan theory around something is Snowpiercer being in the Willy Wonka universe, if you know that one. So Snowpiercer the train. Yeah, the train movie, yeah. Yeah, it's a really convincing.

Do you want to explain? Yeah, I'll do my best. It's super deep. So a YouTuber made this very good video that explains how Snowpiercer is likely a sequel, direct sequel to Willy Wonka in the Chocolate Factory. Yeah. And the conductor, like the main guy at the end,

if you all seen the movie? Yeah. So the guy at the end, that's Charlie Bucket. So his argument is, It's set up in the same way that the chocolate factory was. You know, it's all self-sustaining. Food plays a big part with like the cockroach bars and shit like that. Yeah.

And it's set up in like the class system where you move up, just like in the chocolate factory. Yeah. And he breaks down like all of the parallels between the characters in Snowpiercer and Willy Wonka. And then he also explains how Bong Joon Ho, the director, was a big Charlie and the Chocolate Factory fan, who in an interview at some point said something about how Willy Wonka had inspired him to make something like Snowpiercer. So it connects all of these threads that have no reason to connect well, but does a great job of actually making me believe there's a chance that this does have some connection.

It's really good. It's called Snowpiercer. It might be easy. It's just Snowpiercer's a sequel to Willie Warner. Okay. I'll check it out. It's cool. It's really well.

I have so much admiration for people who can make fan theories that work. Yeah. That work. I just want to imagine their entire bedroom is just like the fucking cork board with like all the strings attached and shit like that. just like trying to figure out. Actually, I've always wanted this because you know like the Zelda timeline, right? Yeah.

The Zelda Canon timeline. So before Nintendo released it, like there were like so many fucking fan theories like, you know, theorizing about how all the Zelda games connect together. And it was only after like, it was only like, I think like five, ten years ago that did Nintendo actually make it canon? But I'm like, there's no way they fucking plan this, right? No. I swear to God, they must have looked at these fan theories. Or you just make a new game.

Yeah, yeah. They probably looked at the most, like, convincing fan theory and was like, yeah, let's go with that. Yeah. Because, like, I think compared to all the fan theories, the only difference was in Zelda O'Carena of Times, they were like, it diverges into three timelines as of two time lines. Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, this is way too fucking convenient. I swear to go, someone at Nintendo was looking at these fan theories and they were like, we can make this a thing.

We can definitely make this a thing. Probably. Yeah. Well, they probably looked at all the fan theories and was just like, all right, next game, we need to just completely just fuck up the timer. So that they can just start from scratch, make them work even harder. Bring out the Phillips CD-I.

That'll fuck it up. That'll send it into a bit of the video. It's like, yeah, where does this fit in the timeline, huh? You watch a shit ton of movies, right? Yeah, I watch a lot of movies. I also try to go to the theatre as much as possible. It's really fun in Japan. It's nice.

Do you get, okay, you love, I don't know if you have this in America before we talk about movies. When you go to the theater in Japan, you get your popcorn, get your drink, and get this tray, and it has like a drink slot and it goes in the drink holder. Oh, that's cool.

And it's a tray, you can like swing it around. Dude, it's awesome. We don't have that here, but that's pretty cool. I know, when I had this, I was like, this is like a game change. Japanese ingenuity, man.

This is nuts. Like, you fit so much stuff and I don't have to carry it. Okay, what do you think is like one of the best movies you've watched in, like, recent memory? Oh, it's tough. Yeah.

What would you say it is? Yeah. It's tough as well because I don't, I get it in Japan. So the release schedule is fucked. Like some movies come out at the same time. Some come out like eight months later. I don't even realize.

That's true. Or if it's Detective Pikachu, we got it first for some reason. Oh yeah, yeah. Oh, fuck. Recent memory. What's a really good movie I watched? I can tell you the best, worst movie I've ever seen. It came out this year.

It's called Moonfall. Anyone seen Moonfall? No. It's a disaster movie where the moon mysteriously gets out of orbit and it's going to crash into Earth. You went to the theater as well, Yep, it is without a doubt the best experience I've ever had. It is a two and a half hour ride.

Two and a half hours. And it feels like 20 minutes. I was upset. It wasn't longer. It was so impressively bad in every aspect you could imagine, but in all of the right ways. It was magic. What made it like bad? Legitimately everything about that movie was bad, but really beautifully bad.

Right, right. Like, I don't want to spoil anything. I don't want you to know. Everything happens. I'm not going to watch it. You should watch it. I kind of watch it. You should absolutely watch it.

That's like my favorite type of movies. No, this is. What's your favorite bad movie then? Like the classics, like the room and stuff. Yeah, room, obviously. Oh man, like trolls too. Yeah, so. What about the, Breen?

Was it a now, Brin? Neil Breen. Neil Breen. I am here now, double down, twisted pear. You know them all? God damn. Oh, God. I am a bad movie, Somali.

I watch all of the, Turbo shitty movies. Yeah. And Moonfall is the best bad movie. Wow. And that came out this year? Came out this year. Is it still in theaters or is it?

No, it's on Prime Now. So I can't remember the guy's name, like the main character. Like he's a big actor. But the guy from Game of Thrones that plays Sam is in it. Right? Yeah. Sam Welthali. He's in it.

And it's directed by Roland Imrich, who does like Day After Tomorrow, 2012. Oh. I thought he gave up on disaster movies. I didn't know he made a new one. Goddown. And he was so proud he said that, because this movie flopped. Yeah. I can't imagine why.

But it didn't do well, shockingly. And he was so salty. He's like it's because of those fucking Marvel movies. No one knows how to make a good movie anymore, like Moonfall. Oh, my God. Oh, it's so good. I think all the films I've watched this year in the theater, I feel honestly 60% or 50% I didn't really enjoy that much.

Yeah. Or I was kind of like, eh, you know, it's fine. A lot of them are Marvel movies. A lot of the Marvel ones I watched this year, I thought we were like, okay, yeah, that was a Marvel movie. I did it.

Top Gun was surprisingly good. Top Gun was good. That's probably the best one I watched this year. I can't think what else came out. Everything everywhere? Oh, everything everywhere was really good. Unfortunately, didn't come out in cinemas in Japan. Oh, so yeah, to get it on streaming.

I watched it online. I'm trying to think what else came out this year. Did the Batman come out this year? I really like the Batman. These guys didn't really like it that much. Do you write the Batman? Yeah, I thought it was good. I thought it was very good.

I like, I like, I'm obsessed with, um, Robert Pattinson. Oh, yeah. Have you watched Good Time? No, I haven't watched The Lighthouse either yet. Good Time is one of my favorite films ever. Watch it. Have you watched Uncut Gems? Yes, that's great.

It's uncut gems with Robert Pattinson and even more anxiety. Oh, perfect. So it's, it's so good. 2017, 19. Oh, so it's still pretty new. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you should watch it. It's really good. It's when he was doing this binge of, like, weird films that, you know,

you know, he was doing. It was like, guys, I'm not that Twilight guy anymore, you know. Yeah, he went through that. He's really good. Yeah, he is really, really good. He was going down the Daniel Radcliffe route of, like, doing all the weird art house films. Yeah.

Yeah. Gunther Kimber was not very weird. Swiss Army Man, though. Oh, Swiss Army Man, though. Oh, it's an amazing film. I've never seen that. Is it as weird as it looks from, like, the trailers and shit? Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. It's fucking weird, but it's so good. Oh, my God. I can't explain, like, just something about, a perpetually farting dead body of Daniel Radcliffe is the funniest thing in the world. And it's like done in like, and it's told in like kind of a serious tone, right? And it's just like, it's amazing.

I thought, I thought I was going to hate it. He's made his bank. Oh, yeah. He's just chilling. He just does what he wants to do. He's just like, I'll do whatever I want. Isn't he just doing a lot of theater now? Yeah, he does a lot of theater stuff.

Like musicals and stuff like that. Yeah. Good on him, yeah. Good on him. Okay, what is the worst anime you've watched as of late? So I've been on this, I started this a couple of months ago. I wanted to watch every shitty anime ever made to find the definitive

worst one. Yeah. Good love with that. I mean, I did Helter, Heaven, Helter Heaven? Skellter Heaven, thank you. Yeah. Do you watch Mars on destruction? Yeah, watch Mars of Destruction. Of course, of course. Gazi's Wing? I haven't gotten there yet. That one's important. Oh, Gazi's Wings. Classic. I think you'd love Gazi's wing. In Dub.

Okay. Yeah, in Dub. Yeah, a lot of the shows are shittier in Dub. Yeah. I watched the Abunai Sisters. Oh, Abunai Sisters. Wow, what a throw her back. Yeah, holy shit. Funny thing about Garzi Zwing, do you know who made it? No.

The creator of Gundam. Really? I'm 100% serious. Wow, I did not know. The Korean of Gundam made Garza 3. What the fuck? And it's fucking amazing, huh? I don't know.

What was he on? I don't know. Honestly, watch Garzi Zwing. It's only three episodes. It's like, to me, it's the room of anime. Oh, 100%. It's like so bad that it's good. So what's the worst one you've seen out of everything so far.

I'm on Exarm and I've been on Xarm for over a month and a half. It's so fucking bad. It's like I'm determined to finish all these awful anime. Yeah, when the trailer came out, everyone was like, what? It's watching it is even worse. It's so bad. It's like, I couldn't get past like episode two. I'm on episode three and it's miserable.

I'm miserable. Why are you doing this to yourself? I just want to find the worst one. Like, I gotta know. Right now it's X-Arm. So right now the worst one I've seen is X-Arm. The problem with X-Arm is that it's not so bad at this good. It's just bad.

It's just fucking boring. It's just bad and it's boring, you know? Which is a shame because like, I've read the manga and it's actually not bad. Yeah. It's just the anime adaptation. I don't know what the fuck happened. They just,

I looked it up. I looked it up. They hired a guy who had never, like the director had never done animation. They hired like someone who does real movies and like action movies. And assumed he could make it work in animation. Right. And he couldn't.

Yeah. Yeah. Jesus Christ. It's just for me, the part that kills me with X-Arm is just like right from the first episode is the fact that like the main character is three. while everyone else is to do it. It's the most jarring thing.

Oh my god. I just know I'm not going to like it. It is the most jarring thing to watch. It's so bad. It's crazy. Take some screenshots and these two characters are like different dimensions. Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Why is that? Is there a reason or is just lazy? They had multiple studios doing it. So one of them that did X-Arm, I think, also did Eldon Ring. Like they did some of the art for Elden Ring. What? Really? So that good. Like the studio was good. I think it was Elden Ring.

I looked it up. It has an image. interesting story actually and how it ended up being such a disaster. Just gave it to the intro. Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever. It was just like a perfect storm where... Probably. Yeah, nobody knew what they were working on. They just kept getting different and conflicting directions from the upper level.

Yeah, and I think like, because I think it was it a Crunch Roll original? Yep. They quickly brushed that on the rug. They were like, oh, no, it's a... I remember when the ads started rolling to, Crunch Roll made sure to tell you it was a Crunch Roll. That's odd. Like, why do they not see it and just think, yeah, we should maybe not advertise this much? That's what I always find most interesting because you push it. You know it's bad. Like, there's no one there that knows it's, that thinks it's good.

Maybe it's just like deals, like prior can't. It's got to be just deals. Because no way would you be like, yeah, I think it's good to go. Yeah. Promoting? Promoting? Okay, great. Let's do it. I would hate to be in that boardroom where they get the first train and we're like, I'm going to air this. They probably looked down and there was just like, oh yeah, so it looks really good. I assume you're going to do the finishing touches soon. I was just like, oh, it's coming out tomorrow. This is a great first track.

What? These are some great storyboards, guys. Oh my God. You asked earlier off scrimer, you're like, what are our worst anime takes? The ones that got people most robbed. What's got to be the hottest take that got the community fucking up in arms and mad? I, in recent memory, have you watched 86? Yeah, I actually liked 86.

I haven't finished it, but I've been trying to. I thought it was so fucking boring. And I said that on the podcast, people lost it. They were like, what do you mean? I just thought it was so slow and it was preachy. And I was like, I don't care. I'm just over it. You judging me?

I don't mind. People who like things I don't like or dislike things I do like. I handle it like an adult. If only everyone in the anime who is like you. I don't even think that was a big hot take, though. People got really annoyed about it. It's not as hot as mine. Cheers.

Yeah. You know Jiuza Kaysen? Yeah. I thought it was mid as far. No, that's, see, this is one of those times where I can't be an adult, that's fucking bad. That is just like a wrong thing. That's not true. That's what we said. Yeah.

It's wrong. It's good. Like, it's, like, how can you watch My Hero Academia? And then look at Jiu-Ticaa-said be like, that's okay. Dude, I didn't even get past season one of my head- Because my head-edarm is shocked. It's so bad. I can't stand it.

Do you know what season six? Yeah, I caught up to watch season six. No, same is. Why? Because apparently the season's gonna be really good. Yep. According to Mungarii! They've been saying that every season.

Every season. And I'm like, bet. Okay, like, manga readers, this is your last chance. If season six isn't good, I'm going to fucking drop it. I swear to God. Is it good? I haven't started it yet. Season five good?

I've been on tour. I've been on tour, mate. Season five is terrible. Season five is the worst season. It's so fucking bad. I just, I wasn't, I remember Connor and I, one day we were just like, wait, there's six seasons of this year? I thought it was still like season four. Yeah, I literally, I think I watched, I don't know what it was.

One when they had like the gentleman and the little fucking That's the gentle criminal that season five. And then that's, I watched up to five. Yep, that season five. I got there, whenever they introduced them, and I'm like, what the fuck is this shit? It's so bad. It's so bad.

I was like, oh, we just derailed the whole plot to have some kind of like Scooby-Doo-esque side plot? The whole show is like nothing but the worst parts of anime, where they focus on like provisional exams for licensing. It's so boring. And it's like, it's crazy because like, what, like three, four years ago, this show was the shit. Yep, it was.

It was. I remember when season two was airing, especially, like, during the tour of the arc. Oh my God, it was inescapable. Dude, every single anime convention was everyone's cosplay in my head. Yeah. Yeah, you couldn't escape it. And then it just fell off a cliff season three. Yeah.

No one spoke about it. Fumbled so hard. Because they had like this big villain like, yeah, dude, it's going to be so deep. And then he like went halfway through the season. And I was like, wait, what? Yeah. I guess like my whole take that I haven't said, I guess, publicly. And this was this is actually-

Exclusive. This was actually before Cyberpunk, the Cyberpunk. anime yet. But I was like, I kind of think trigger is a bit overrated. Really? Yeah, yeah. This was before Cyberpunk, by the way. Before Now, how do you feel about Simpeng? Yeah, it was really. Okay.

It was fucking amazing. Amazing. But it felt like before Cympunk, it just kind of felt like they just kind of, they knew how they had like really, really good branding, but it felt like so long since they released like an absolute bang of money. I kind of get what you mean. Yeah, BNA was good. I thought BNA was so

average. B.A is what I felt like, it was like their practice for Cyberpunk in a weird way. Did you watch BNA? No, I actually didn't watch BNA. Because they like did not promote it. I've heard of it. I just didn't want it. I thought it was decent.

It wasn't like amazing. Yeah, that's the thing with most trigger shows. The only trigger shows I really liked was Kill La Kill and You look darling in the Franks. Gridman. Gridman. You didn't like Premier? I thought, see the thing, I think it was

decent. But I think it was just, I think it's just like recycling the same formula all over again. But that's the thing, right? I feel, I feel Trigger is able to get away with a lot of shit that I think other studios would not be able to get away with because of their branding. It's just like, you see something ridiculous happen in a Trigger show. And, you know, if it was any other studio, then people would be like, the fuck is this. Like, why derail it so? But if it's triggers doing it, then it's like, that's just Trigger being Trigger. If fucking Studio Bones or you photo release Inferno Cop, everyone would like fucking throw hands

man I swear to God absolutely yeah because to those I haven't watched side punk please go watch it yeah um there's uh you know because obviously it's trigger there's like a lully character in it did you see this interview that they had

with one of the it was like it was one of the CDPR people right and they were doing a podcast where they were they were being interviewed about side punk oh yeah about Rebecca yeah and apparently when they first pitched the idea of Rebecca this

you know Project Red were like what we don't want to lolly. There's no lollies in cyberpunk. What is this? Can you remove it? Apparently Trigger was like, no, the lollies stays.

We don't do the show if the lollies. And I'm just like, could you imagine this like awkward ass, like 12 meeting people with like translators and everything. And they say, hey, we just, can we remove the lollie and they're like murmuring, they say it back and then they're just like the lolly stays. It's just like, all right, okay. Weird, all right.

But I almost think that like you said, Trigger was kind of, I felt like the shows weren't that good. And I almost wonder if maybe because they had to collaborate a bit and kind of had to work with maybe some outside influence that maybe a bit of restriction sometimes make a better product. That's why I think CyberPont was so good. It's good. Like, well, I think working with CD Project Red,

they've really, like, reeled them in. So they had to be more creative. So I was like, yo, what the fuck is this shit? No, get rid of that. No, the girls cannot be wearing no clothes at all times. Come on. Yeah, because I think seeing them really experiment with like the, you know, hyperviolence and the goal was just like so fucking good and so fucking cool.

I mean, it was like a throwback to like the old like production IG shit, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because like I feel like when Trigger became Trigger, that's when they kind of like toned down on like the adult themes and stuff like. Obviously, other than Kill a Kill, right? Yeah, because like after Kill or Kill or Kill, everyone was, everything was kind of like, okay, yeah, this is like pretty, it's pretty toned out. It was all right. I didn't think it was like gray, but it was all right. Yeah.

I'm Giosi, what did you give a cyrpunk on your moisture meter? I gave it a 90. Hell, yeah. Oh, yeah. The first opening, if you haven't watched it, the first opening scene is so goddamn good. And like, the moment that first scene played, I was like, oh shit, this is going to be something fucking special. It was, it was episode six. Oh, that was good as well.

Episode six. Episode six is a master piece. Might be one of my favorite episodes of anime ever. It's so good. Have you seen the new Chainsaw Man anime yet? Yep. I watched the pursued one. It was good.

It was good. What do you think of the... Did you come in your pants? It was like, come in your pants good, though? It was very good. There was no soiled trousers, but it was good. This is what I said. It's a first episode.

Yeah. Like, it did what it needed to do. I don't think... Everyone made it seem like it was the second coming of Jesus Christ. Came down to bless us with some anime wifus and chainsaws. And it was just like, I, you know, they hyped with all the animation and the budget or whatever the fuck. I don't know, whatever they want to call it. Yeah.

I shouldn't say budget. I got in trouble last time I said that. Oh, that was a... That was an anime technique. Did you ever see that? No, what? When I said the, you know, Demon Slayer, I go on tangent now, when I, the Demon Slayer last season came out,

and the last fight was insane. Did you see it? Like the animation was just. And I tweeted out being like, dude, this budget is nuts. And then it unraveled into this whole thing where like a certain few people were like, yo, what the fuck? You can't call it budget. It's not about the budget.

It's about the individual. animators that work on it. This is just spreading misinformation. And then I didn't say anything and I just kind of left it. I was like, oh, whatever. I'm not getting involved. Yeah. And then like, apparently some, one of the guys who was tweeting about it, some people tweeted back at him being like, yeah, this is a joke, chill out. Yeah. And then apparently it all unraveled and so they claimed they got swatted and stuff and it. Oh, are you just saying the budget? Yeah. Yeah. And then the next day woke up, people were like, this is unacceptable. He needs to address this. I'm like, I just said that had a budget.

What the fuck happened? It was just like, what, what? That was just so surreal. It was so bizarre. I had to make a twit longer being like, hey, guys, it was a joke, please don't get crazy,

it's anime, can we all chill the fuck out? Bro, you're lucky that those were just the anime fans. Could you imagine if Demon Slay was a live action TV series? They would have, oh my God,

you would be dead. You have a hit squad, it's all dead and buried now, but it was just so like, what, like you look at it you're like, this is the most Twitter moment ever. Yeah, that sounds like that's very much a Twitter moment. Because you know how it's like certain groups, they work each other up,

and then they're just out for blood and they get a little bit and they're like, yo, this is it, this is it. Then they just keep like attacking it over. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like, okay, there was an agenda here. And it was just like, weird. I was like, I don't know what I did and what happened and this is weird. I don't know.

Yeah, Twitter's a cesspit. But you've got to be on it, right? Like you have no choice. I'm always on it just, because that's how I get like all the updates to shit and find things. It's just such a quick source. information. I mean, if you want to stay up to date with like drama or internet news, you got to be on Twitter. Yeah.

Remember the times where you saw a tweet longer and you didn't assume someone was getting like canceled or apologizing? Holy shit. It was a long explanation. Yeah, it was just a long explanation. It's like, oh, he can't fit it in a single tweet. That's fine. Yeah, I'll open it off.

One thing I'm curious about as a creator has been on the platform so long, because obviously sometimes you do cover drama. How is it sometimes, let's say, if like, drama happens with someone that maybe you have connections to or maybe you're like close ties to or maybe even you know maybe sometimes you're like am i oh is it okay if i talk about this like you know like how do you handle that because something that i've always i've always like stayed away from ever talking about shit publicly about any even if there's drama happens i think all three of us yeah because i'm just like i'm like what if this like somehow like they bounce back and they remember me being an asshole and i'm the piece of shit who said

something even though it was totally you know what i mean i'm like always like i don't know how do you How do you deal with that? It's all impulsive. I don't really give a lot of thought. If it's like some goofy drama, I'll usually just be like, this is why it's goofy. This is what they're doing and this is what happened. I never really think if there's any angle that could have been worked

or something like that. I also feel like with the way you address a lot of that kind of stuff in your videos, you're very articulate with it, first of all, but I feel- Through Dixon's shit. Dixon ass. Dixon ass. Very articulate.

But like I feel in a lot of stuff, lot of ways you're also you I don't know if you're trying to consciously do this but I feel in a lot of ways you're very like neutral and fair about the situation like you kind of just like say it how it is and like these are the facts this is what's happening here's like my tiny little two cents and then that's it kind of thing right you don't really like you know pick a side blatantly usually unless it's something that I like have a very strong opinion of right like yeah for example like the pink sauce lady she was on a talk show if you were on the other side then I think everyone would have been like what the fuck. Yeah, like, there are times where I'll pick aside, like,

yeah, of course, this, from reading or learning about all this, but you didn't know the pink sauce lady person to you. I can't say I really knew it all that well. That shit was vile. Yeah. That looks gross. Oh, my God. That looks worse than the shit that we cooked on that life.

Oh, yeah. Pretty aged better, too. But I feel if it's with, like, you know, drama concerning, like, a fellow content creator, for example. Oh, like someone I know. Yeah, like someone you know, I feel you're very good at kind of being neutral about it. Yeah, trying to look better as you can. fucking Twitch every week.

Pretty much I'll be out of friends. It's not a whole lot left. Everyone's always getting tossed into something. Is there even any point covering it? Because you're like, this is just not new. I usually only cover it if it's entertaining or if it's something that I'm like feeling strongly about. Like if it's like a serious situation where I have a pretty strong opinion on what's

going on here, I'll cover it. But then other times where if it's like without getting like too specific like someone going through like a mental health episode and broadcasting it, I'm not. casting it. I'm not going to talk about that. Yeah, but I feel what's good is that you have like such a big variety of content that you don't need to like pressure yourself. Oh yeah. To make content about drama or stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, because I mean, there are like so many like commentary drama channels and YouTube now.

Like I swear people, there's like entire channels, which is the genre is let's like take this one tweet and like make a fucking video about it. Well, I've definitely done that. I've seen some dog shit tweets. I couldn't help it. Was it the Seth Rogan one that one time? That was that one. That was so good. What was that one?

The one of Seth Rogan was like, why are you complaining about your car being broken into? It happens all the time. Casey Nicet said made a tweet. Like, my fucking car got broken into it. It's ages ago. I hate L.A. Seth Rogan replied to it. He's like, why are you upset?

L.A. is one of the best cities on earth. You just have to know if you park your car outside, you're going to get broken into. My car's broken into 15 times. They even left me a treat one time. So he's like, you're like. And he was fully serious. He was 100% serious. It was not me.

It was the worst fucking tweet I've ever read. I love that tweet. I love that tweet so much. Out of touch, celebrity tweets. Oh, my God. Oh, my gosh. Actually, one question I've always wanted to ask you is concerning YouTube, right? So your lack of thumbnails.

Is that by choice? Yeah, and I just don't give it a lot of thought. And I don't stretch them on purpose for what it's worth. Yeah. Some of the ones, I'm like, some of the ones, I'm like, some of the ones. ones I see and I'm like, that has to be like a Photoshop edit. No, it's never, so I use Sony Vegas. Any Sony Vegas fans?

Hell yeah, yeah, yeah, see, you see that? We're terrible. We are terrible. We are inferior. Like, we're legitimate. Listen, this is why I don't edit my videos. It's like, you use Sony Vegas, like, don't know how to edit it. So in Sony Vegas, you'll know when you put in an image, sometimes it gets those black

bars on the side and it's like, shit. So you just stretched. I click. Stretch it and then the screen show? I click. I untick maintain aspect ratio it stretches it for me and then I save the screenshot

No You gotta fucking zoom it in Charlie You put 10% more effort than prosy Yeah He told us that he just picks one of the three I used to do that I used to but I stop because now

For some reason YouTube's really fixated on those auto-generated thumbnails On the goofy shit like when my eyes are closed It's like He's like yeah fuck it I'll do it No he's got a great philosophy Hearing him talk about it is like, all right, I like this.

This makes sense. Yeah, he's great. He's awesome. Yeah, I love the whole low effort thumbnail thing. I love it so much. It's really cool. I should start doing that.

Important in Sony Vegas? Yeah, I would say just untick, maintain aspect ratio. You'll see the light. You'll be like, wow, I look fucking good. So what are you putting in there? The video or like a screenshot or something? So I'll just take like a screenshot of the video, but it takes those black bars on the sides

so they'll bring it in and untick the... Why can't you just open up? the video in like VLC and just screenshot that makes no sense now you're speaking not you don't he doesn't even know sunny Vegas works am I right even if it's a fucking like vertical phone video you just like fucking blow it like fuck the ass make ratio I'm gonna look at your channel right now imagine if Percy D did that shit just like all of his videos just like him wide as fuck like that would be amazing awful some of them are so stretched what is this DJ Callid almost

died one. I love that one. It's so stressed. So that one was unlucky. You didn't even get it. That one was on, when I unclicked maintain aspect for issue. They wouldn't. They would refuse.

Sony was like, I can't, bro. Bro, I can't even I can't do this one. That one was a little too much. Even the power of Vegas couldn't make way. Wait, wait. I know obviously this is, do you make all your thumb? Make is a strong word. Do you make all your in thumb-knit?

Almost all of them. If it's a bigger project like God slap or something, they'll do a thumbnail. Like podcast. Right, right, right. voice reader. Damn. And you edit your own video still sometimes? All of them that aren't like the bigger projects. Yeah. So just the ones of you in your room talking about something. Damn. It's really not much work.

The fact that you can just commit to that and do it. Yeah. And the fact that you're up like 60 videos a month. If it was like once a week then I'd be like yeah, okay, and not much extra effort, right? But you're doing it like almost every day. It's pretty quick though. It's like what you guys do with the podcast. You just talk. You just talk at a camera and then like the editing is pretty simply just cut, like you just put the things together. We don't touch that. If you tell you editor of that, he might be like, how.

Well, no, I mean, like, four B. That's what I do. Like, if it's just talking, I just splice it. I mean, if you ask me to edit this podcast, I'd be like, fuck that. My podcast is harder because you have to sync everyone's audio and everything. Right.

Yeah, whenever we say anything, he throws it up. That's awful. And we have, like, the whole time stamps and everything. He does that. He's a beast. It's a lot. Absolutely machine.

Shout out, Murdo. Thank you very much, Murdo. Episode 100, but we thank Murdown for keeping this podcast. I'm glad you still use Sony Vegas. I'm one of the still, few people I know, a few YouTubers are still use Sony Vegas. There's four of us now.

It's the three of us and then Tove. Tove makes a lot of like dark content surrounding like, you know, Twitch moments or stalkers and stuff like that. We have four Sony Vegas users, all four. I feel the Fisher price of editing song. Yeah, it is.

It legitimately is. It is. It is designed for literal like 10 years to use. Because like none of the stuff makes sense professionally, but if you're literally doing the bare minimum, it's the easiest. Do you want to be a YouTuber? You must face the elite four. Yeah. And when you're starting out, it is really easy to get free. It's so easy. I feel so bad because I do actually like higher editors sometimes, right? And obviously they use shit like Premiere Pro and stuff like that. Yeah, because they're editors. Because they're editors. And I feel bad because I still have like a hand in the editing process.

So what I'll do is I'll get them to render out the video and render out the audio separately and then I re-edit it in Sony fake stuff. I don't do that. That's cruel. That's chaotic. Sorry, sorry editing team.

It might be time to change, man. Do you do anything or is it just like? No, no, no. I hate it so much. It's not fun. It's just not. It simply isn't. It can be fun if you have like a actual good editing

project. Well, like, if it's, I'd say if it's not you directly, like, if you're editing your own thing, I feel like it's just, it's not fun. Oh, yeah. It's just, I do it. It's done. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's quick, it's easy. Yeah.

I definitely see, like, it being fun for, like, a bigger project. If you've got, like, some project that you're, like, have a hand in. Yeah. And, right. It's much better. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. What I like is, like, having, like, big fun projects. Yeah. And I get my editing team to do, like, the bulk of the work. I like the fun little bits. Yeah. You get creative expression is it. Exactly.

No. Yeah. Right, right? Ever corner? The moment I could have, I was able to afford an editor, I was like, I'll go broke. I don't want to do this. It's just not fun. It would make videos that should have been like two days, like two weeks.

Because I would just procrastinate. I'd be like, I'll play another game of league. I did one like chroma key or one keyframe. That's it. That's the day. Awful stuff. What games are you into now? What games are you playing?

Been doing a lot of, well? Overwatch. Overwatch, too? Yeah, Overwatch, too. Is it good? It's a lot better. So they took out a player, so it's 5V5, which has one less tank. Yeah.

And that changed everything. So the game's actually fun now. Can they come back after all the controversy they had? I don't think it'll ever be an e-sport again. Like, I think the esports scene, I think it's fucked. Like, there's really, I don't think there's much they can do there. They should appeal to the porn community. I think that's the way they go.

It's huge. The porn community is massive. I feel like if they just catered towards that, just keep giving them characters they can make porn of. I think it'll stay around. I think that's the problem. of making robots and shit and just was not doing it for like that's what near automata dude right yeah i mean some of the most talented 3d artists and animators i know are all doing fucking porn i swear to god it's insane how good it looks man dude that that widow maker and diva

porn was like better than anything pixel ever put out like it was shocking everything from that community is on another level of quality it's it's like the pentagon comes together to like wring all their processing power to make 20 second loop of Widow maker getting rammed. It's insane. And let's not forget, Tifa is now officially part of Italian law. Yeah. Right? Yeah.

That shit went hard. That was working. That was so great. One of my favorite meme videos of sort of recently was just like the history of Italy and it's just like the entire like a quick like PNG of like the entire history of Italy. Then there's one frame of Tifa at the end. Just in the center. And I just perfectly encapsulates it.

Oh my gosh. I mean, if any country's going to do it, it's probably Italy. They had like a prime minister, like, I don't know, like two prime ministers ago that would openly talk about having orgies and stuff. Was that Italy? I know who you're talking about. Yeah, Berlusconi. He would talk about having orgies all the time.

He's like 70. He was insane, dude. I don't know why Italians loved him. Like, he would talk about orgies and they'd be like, yeah, dude. What an alpha male! You're fucking voting for that guy! This guy is insane. Like, you hear him talk.

You're like, this is not. someone who should be running. This guy should be managing a Denny's at best. Like, this is, this is not prime minister material. Italian Hugh Heffner running the fucking country. I suppose that's what, that's the top of Italian priority. Like, fucking. Like, that's it. Like, everything else is second. Like, maybe like pastor or something. Yeah, past the second.

The economy is like way down. Economy third. No, no, no, not even, dude. Not even. What is the best state in the U.S. Oh, it's Florida. Great state. Did you travel out much to other states? Nope. Not at all.

You said earlier, I think, before the show, you said you've been to Texas and stuff, right? Yeah, Texas is nice. I really like Texas. Texas is like Florida with better weather. Is that the faux of the studio? No, I've been out of the country once. I went to Canada when I was a kid. It's not like a cool story.

I mean, I guess it's a cool story. I went skiing on the same hill that Liam Neeson's wife died on. But I went there like a year. before it happened. Oh, right. It's not a cool story, I guess. Yeah, it's a pretty morbid story. It's a pretty morbid story.

And then they won't let you back into Canada. They did now I can't go back. Yeah, I mean, do you ever talk about it? Because obviously, I think it's well known that you've like a fear of flying. Yeah. Did you talk about that much? No, only when it comes up.

I just don't fly at all. How did that like fear develop? I guess. The therapist, tell me about that. Tell me what you're doing. How did it all start? Yeah. I don't know when that started, but the other day,

I told the group here, I'm also like a legitimate hypochondriac, and I know exactly where that started. My doctor, before I went to high school, made a big song and dance out of the meningitis shot because you needed it to go to the high school. And I was like, up until this point, I was pretty carefree. I'd like eat worms. I'd jump in lakes. Yeah, of course. And then my doctor, when he was told to give me the meningitis shot, he's like, I'm not doing that. It's going to paralyze your son. Like your son's going to die from this. Was he like a crazy doctor? He was fine all the way up until this point. He told me, he said that in front of me. And I was like, what does he mean? Mom, he's going to, is this going to kill me?

And so I went home and I'm like Googling these things. Yeah, it was horrifying. I googled all these things about like the side effect like Gillian Pars syndrome or something where I guess is what he was talking about. Was he like some kind of like conspiracy? He must have been. And then from that point forward, I was afraid of everything. I still got the shot, but I was afraid of fucking traumatized. He legitimately gave me hypochondria for life.

To be fair, if a doctor tells you this shit at a young age. How old are you in that? It was right before high school. I would have been going on 14. That would have scared. That would have fucked me off. I hadn't thought about that for years until the other day I brought it up to the team. I was like, that's absolutely where that started.

Damn. That's totally understandable. I don't know where the plane stuff started, though. I remember watching Phoenix, or Flight of the Phoenix when I was a kid where the plane crashes in the desert and they kill each other. Yeah. Fuck, that's a sick area. That could be me. Yeah, because I mean, like, you know, you obviously love so much, like, you know, Japanese, like, you know, media and content and stuff like that.

like I'm sure there's somewhere in your head where you're like, I really fucking want to just like, suck it off and go to Japan, right? Just to tape me. It's just such a long flight. 12 hours. I'd be like an anesthesiologist to keep me under. It's a long flight. What I'm hearing is if there's somewhere that you can get there, like while being drugged, you'll be it. I think it would be a really fun trip to back.

Oh, you would love a fucking walk. You'd have a field day with all the shit you can find them. Oh, my God. It is an absolute content goldmine. Yeah. Especially for you, like, you'd find so much weird shit to make the content. We've all been talking about it too. Like, we've all wanted to make that trip.

It's just, for me, it's fucking hard. Yeah, yeah. If it's like a fear, it's a fear, right? It's not so similar to be like, yeah, obviously I know it's not gonna crash, but it's like, I don't think that, I think it's, I hate it, I don't want to be up there, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it doesn't matter how many, like, you know, little information tidbits of like, oh, if you didn't die in the car crash on the way to the airport, then you've survived the deadliest passion. It's like so tired of here.

Don't be scared, Charlie. Come on. Oh my God. You're putting yourself in danger more every single day in a car than you are on a plane. And it's like, okay, yeah, easier said than done. Yeah, because a lot of people would ask us all the time. Like, what are you going to get Charlie? I'm like, well, you know, we have a very strict policy. It has to be in person. People just wouldn't shut the fuck up about it. And we're like, well. So we have to make our way here. Charlie made us come all the way to Tanford, Florida.

I'm kidding. It's awesome being here. But, no, I mean, like, it's, it's a lot. You know, and it's, I think. You couldn't be further from Japan, right? No, you do. I'm just praying for, like, another pangia where everything comes to.

Dude, I didn't want to be close to Florida. Are you kidding me? You make the drive across it? I'll drive across. It's like a five-day drive on land. Florida just breaks off from the rest of America and floats his way towards Asia. So do you ever think like, do you ever get like a bit saddy like fuck I'll probably never like see Europe?

Yeah, like I do think about that. I'm not like a big outdoorsy guy. Yeah. Yeah. Seeing sites is cool, but it's not something like top of mind. But with Japan in particular, it's like so many things that I know are like exclusive to there that I won't be able to do if I don't go. Yeah. So that one's like actually tough.

That in Sweden, Sweden seems like another really cool spot to be. Why Sweden? Like dream hack and everything. Oh, yeah. Like it just seemed like a really cool spot with a lot. lot of stuff to do yeah that makes sense where's where's the furthest you have traveled then is it just Canada just Canada okay yeah it was nice yeah you drove there I no actually flew no before you were scared yeah no like I was scared then too but like I

have sucked it up and flown I flew to Dallas like two months ago now oh shit but it's it's just really it's a lot yeah I know there's a few friends in mine where it's like they have to like they will fly but it's like they have to do but it's like they have to do like 50 things before just to like calm themselves. If they don't do all of those things, they won't get on the plane. And it'll be like weird things. It'll be like, you know, you have to wear the right pair of socks

because that's what they've convinced themselves, right? Like that's, that's, that's, and it's obviously they, and it's not that they're done. They know that it's irrational. Yeah, it just can't do anything. But in your mind, it's just like you think that like you have to do this. And if you don't do it, you're not comfortable. Yeah.

And even then getting on the plane is terrifying or like doing a certain thing or going to the doctor to get the shot right it's like it's different for everyone the minds are fucking weird yeah they do not work well oh I know I'm not anti-vax by the way with the whole shot I get all my shots just fine it's just hypochondry with germs and bro meningitis in my university someone died from menace really yeah because they didn't get the shot oh I was like oh I'm glad I took this because they tell you it's oh it's super serious and you're like I never fucking heard of this disease yeah why is no one talking about it Someone at my university got measles.

Yeah. We had a guy to get measles. I think it's going to see a big uptick. It's coming. It's coming back. I'm telling me. Measles is on the come up. Oh, man.

Those stocks are up. It's sad. It is very sad. You're only the epicenter. You're going to be seeing the bribronic plague first, I think. We'll be fine down here, though. Like, we're tough. We're in four.

We'll be fine. Fine. You're like the New York rats, right? Like, it's like, you develop so well, but it's like, oh God, what happened? You're like, it's like impossible to get rid of you. You're like, what have we created? Like cockroaches? Like, just survive everything.

You're playing ninja turtles, swim, views. Bro, British people could not survive hurricanes and shit like that and floods. No. But we're done. We're done if the sun is out. Like, we're like shit. True. You guys have, like, darkness for most of the time, right?

Like, it's always rainy. Rainy and cloudy. It's mostly great. Actually, I realized this the other day when I was back in England and it was raining, I was depressed. And I realized... I like that. You love that, but I've realized only in England do I find rain really depressing. In a lot of other places, I kind of like dig it.

It's kind of like a vibe sometimes. In Japan, I kind of like the rain in Japan. But that's because everything in Japan is aesthetic. That's true. That's true. That's why all the lo-fi goes with it, man? Yeah, exactly. If you're in Tokyo and it starts raining, you just put some lofi on.

And that's a vibe now. Yeah, you can't do that in England. Yeah. You're like the clear umbrella as well. The clear umbrella so you can see the rain. Oh, shit. Dude, it's deep. That's deep.

Yeah. That's the jam right there. Oh, my God. Have you ever tried learning another language? I'm curious. I tried learning Japanese. I took an entire semester in college. Really?

Yep. It didn't go super. A little bit language guy. Yeah, it was tough. We suck. We're not great. We suck right now. I can only remember a few things.

I tried, they taught us kanji. I can't do that anymore. They taught you kanji? Yep. They taught... Damn, in the one semester? Yep. They tried to graham so much in that once.

How many kanji? Not much. They did... Mountain. There's like three, right? It's kanji, katakana and... Hiragana. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

They did all three in that semester. They tried to teach us like a little bit of all of it. Damn, that seems... I feel like the pointless teaching... That's why I don't remember any of it. It was just like too much. The only thing I remember is how to say, like, what is your telephone number?

which I think it's Anotoa dinwabongo nandes. Yes. You got it. You pick up a girl in Japan. See, like, I'm equipped to survive in Japan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the only thing that's stuck with me in that entire semester. You'll learn all these kanji, and then, like, 80% of the kanji you see are bridge and mountain.

Yeah. Like, a lot of the time. Pretty much. Obviously, there's way more, but so many of them are bridge and mountain. It's just yama. It was a lot. Yeah, I just don't see how effective that could be Entrenel in all of that in one semester.

No, no, no. I mean, you'd have, you'd probably have a better time just like, you know, watching anime with some type of off. I feel like I've got more out of that. Like, I know, I know, Sogoy. Yeah. I know Barker. Temer.

Thiemere. Barkana. A little bit from Entai as well. Yeah, hentai's good. Bible Black taught me a lot. Yeah. The school of Bible Black. Only Bible I read.

I read. Have you ever seen the dub of Bible Black? Love it. Oh, that's so good. I only watched the double Bible Black recently, like maybe like a couple of years ago. Yeah. And I'm so upset of myself that it took me this long to watch. It's so funny. Have you watched a lot of the really shitty hentai dubs, the official ones?

I've watched a few of them. I've watched Bible Black and then I've watched that one where the professor, I don't remember exactly what he was. I know, yeah. You know, fucking bitch shit. Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah. I'm in that one, yeah. I'm squeezing on your supple breasts.

in the janitor's closet Yeah, I don't know what that one's good There's like a medieval one where like There's a woman with like F-sized Tits, it's so funny and she's like I'm sorry I killed your granddad by suffocating with my tits and it's just like And she delivers it straight and the whole

Dialogue is like it's so funny Those are best I love this It's an entire like gold mind of just hentai Darned of them they turn it to like a from a hentai to a comedy Oh yeah It's much better than the shudy anime much much

way more entertaining as well in my pigeon I mean yeah because it's basically just like porn acting right like it's it's hilarious it's supposed to be serious but it's hilarious yeah I guess because it's like they they took this Japanese script

and they're like how fuck their shit yeah just make it better what the fuck is this I think a lot of the time the licensing deals in those are not as strict as the other or at least back then they were I think they're strict man yeah I guess they still dub hentai sometimes

yeah I haven't heard like a modern dub hint. I get the casting calls sometimes. Really? Yeah. Have you taken them? No.

You should absolutely take those? Yeah. I am never the main. I am never the character. You're never the guy. Think about the guys. My voice just doesn't. I'm not the nerdy kid with the head out and I'm not the ugly bastard.

You should do it. You should do it anymore. You should do it to me. Yeah. Do it. If I had that cost of call, I'll be like, hey. I can't do this one, but I know a guy who might be. You can play the ugliest best.

No, I know you'd like it because the moment it comes out, you're like, I peaked in civilization the fattest-cheeked anime. I would love that. That would be on your bio. That's going on the irony. Ugliest bastard in hentai.

Because I remember a lot of like OG voice actors used to use pseudonyms doing like hentai work. So I remember like, the yugi, yami yugi. Yeah, and the guy who did Professor Oak. Yeah. They've both been in hentai and they have such distinctive voices.

It's literally Professor O. Yeah. Which one is it? I want to watch it now. There's one about like this. It's this weird like four part. Because I found it. It's just fucking weird.

It's about like these shaman's and they're like taking these girls kidnapping them then fucking them. But then they have like a master Roshi type who's and it's just really weird. And they keep kidnapping these girls. so bizarre sent it to you. Yeah, it's so weird. It's like, it's exactly what they expect of,

like a weird-ass hentai. Yeah. And what's that one with the one where she's like, oh, my tits are torpedoes as well? I've actually seen that clip. That's like Mother's milk or something. I think it's called. Mother's milk.

It's what it's called. They all, and I ask this to the people who made them. I asked them why the English names are the Japanese ones, like the mid-2000s henties was so like porn-esque. Yeah.

And they were like, well, apparently just sold better. Like when they renamed it to like when they gave them shitty porn title names, they sold so much better than when they gave them literal translations. Well, yeah, because they probably looked at like a title like mother's milk and was like, I have to fucking watch this. Yeah, like mother nose breast. Yeah, like, like mother nose breast. Yeah, like that was not the original title. No, no. The Japanese titles are like, uh, love story between mother and summer. Yeah, it's like, no, no, no,

no fucking want to do this. What are you about? I don't want to watch this. I think, I think the weirdest thing I've seen that is just like, you know, childhood ruin moment was, It wasn't a hentai, but I remember there was an AIDS advert, right? Okay. Where is this going? And in this aid campaign, right, to inform people about AIDS. In the UK. No, no, no, no.

In America. Oh, okay. They hired the voice actors of Shinji and Asker from Evangelion. What? And so you hear in this, and it's like an audio campaign, right? And so there's a scene in this campaign about two people having sex. And it's like, it is, it is just Shinji and Aska having sex, basically. It's just, it's just, it's just, it's on sex, like, ASMR.

Oh my God. It's like, I remember hearing that and I'm like, oh my God, I can never look at it. I can never look at Haver the same again. Oh my God. Holy shit, how have I never heard of that? Yeah, the recordings on YouTube. Oh, my God. Oh, I need to watch it.

Yeah, yeah. I don't know. Holy crap. Do you do a lot of voice acting? You did some of some games, right? I've done some. I'm not very good. I love doing it, but I'm just pretty bad.

We both did, what was that game where it was like a tabletop kind of like card. Yeah, the dungeon game. Yeah, that game was like, it's a good game. But I don't know like, I don't know. I can't remember the name of it though. I mean, how good we are? Put on the screen, Muno.

Yeah. It was a fun. No, because Munoz is going to message me. This is what happens. We say put it on the screen. Then he messages me asking what it was. And I'm like, I don't know because I would have said it in the episode. It's pretty online.

Look up Charlie's IMDV. It's probably on there. Yeah, dude, I poured my heart out for that. I did like four characters as well. I did so much work. I only did one. And like no, no, because it was actually a good game. I played it. It was fun. I did Lucius 3, though.

Do you know that game? No, what is Lucius 3? That's how like you just kill people as like a little devil child. Oh yeah, yeah. I voiced a character in there. It is the worst voice acting in your life. Wait. Have I seen this thing?

I think I might have seen this. Maybe. It's not that old. It's only like three years old. What does the character look like? Your voice. A nerd. He looks very nerdy.

Maybe I've seen this. Yeah. And it's just like Charlie voice. Yeah, did you use your normal voice? In my defense, they didn't give me like direction for the character, so I just read it like I wouldn't. Like a moist critical video. If they're contacting you, they're probably wanting that voice, right? But when you see it in the game, it's like.

It doesn't seem right. Yeah, it feels like I did a dub of this character and they put it in. I can just imagine playing the game and you get up to the nerd character and be like, Hey, Lucius, I really hope you still believe me. I don't really appreciate that. It's just like Charlie's voice. I need to see this now. Like when you're in something, it's like, that's a character.

When I'm in those games, it's like, why is Charlie being? I don't know. It depends. If I do, if I do the British thing and people are like, I just can't unhear Connor. Because if I ever do like just my normal voice kind of more British, they're like, oh, he just talked. He was like, fuck. It's like, I'm pompous.

Come on. I'm pompous, that's what you got to do. Instead of learning a new language, you got to, like, figure out, like, new accents. Oh, different accents. Yeah. Like, if you do, if you do, like, a role in, like, a British accent, they won't be up.

They'll probably hear less of Charlie. True. I should have done that. What was me is that, like, I cannot not sound like myself. Yeah, well, you two have that. You two have, like, very, very, very distinct voices. And it's very hard to hear anything else when you're changing your voice.

I mean, I've never heard you change your voice much. I can't do it very well. I can only do Scooby-Doo saying one line. Go on to it. Ruh, reggie. It's all I got. I mean, yeah, it works. That's Scooby.

Whenever he voice actor, it just sounds like him. Yeah, it does. I go into like my YouTuber voice. You know, not every voice actor needs to sound different. It's a common misconception. You know, there are a lot of voice actors out there who just sound like the same character every time, but they're really good at acting and really good at making me. Oh, you know, like Sugimoto, like, you know, he's like one of the biggest Japanese voice

actors. He sounds exactly the same in all of his roles, but people love that thing. I mean, so, yeah, Johnny Young Bosch always sounds like the protagonist voice. Yeah, yeah. Steve Bloom just always sounds like Spike Spiegel. Yeah, yeah. That's awesome. Yeah, I love that. He does. Hell yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you, oh, you know what we actually, another thing that we both did, what was that movie you were in? grads? Yeah. I was in you were in last grads? I'm the voice of the

killer. Holy fuck I had no idea that was your voice. That's awesome. Yeah, and you did an American accent. Yeah, it's an American accent. They were like he's, so I got on the call with them because I think, I don't know how it all came about. They asked me to do it and I was like yeah, sure because they were like, oh Charlie's in it. I was like, Charlie's in it.

I was sure. Because you had like an actual role in it. I was Officer Greg. So I was like oh, fuck it, sure. Why How many lines can it be? I was like, sure, whatever. And they were like, so we want to be the voice of the killer. And I was like, all, cool. So I get on the call with them, we're about to do it.

And I'm like, I started doing the lines. And they're like, oh, no, no, no, he's American. And I was like, oh, kind of what you told me that like before? Because I could like prep a little bit. And I was like, so whereabouts in America is he from? Thinking like, like, I'm just stalling. So I'm like, fuck, I need to think of like a voice now. And he's like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, easy.

Yeah, that's a Washington. Yeah, yeah. Washington. right, I got that. So I started to this thing, and they were like, yeah, it works. It was just some kind of creepy voice out of it. But I think, I think, I don't know if they fixed it or not. I think they, like, forgot to credit me in the movie.

Really? They never, I don't think in the official credits of the IMDB, I'm credited at all. Damn. But then again, I saw the review scores and I'm like, maybe. I hope this is Greg really put his best on the line. I saw one of the reviews where I was like, this movie suck, but I like seeing Charlie. It was a shame because when I spoke to the guys, they were really passionate about it. Yeah, they really went for it.

They really put that heart on it and it was a shame because you're like, damn. It's just one of those things where, like, you have a vision, but it's just not quite realized. Yeah. Except for Officer Gregg. Sometimes you just get it right. Did you watch the whole movie? Yeah. Oh, okay.

I mean, I haven't, I don't know how I sound in it. I didn't know it was you, so he sounded pretty good. Oh, okay, good. Yeah, because there was an actor who was actually playing the character. Right. But then it wasn't their voice. He was wearing a mask. So you basically did like the Darth Vader thing.

So yeah, I was like it was kind of, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, it was kind of like that. So then I think he was unmatched at one point. Yeah. But I, again, I didn't have much time. I got like burned alive and I remember I ruined my throat having to do those lines. Right. Because I did it like eight takes and they were like, can we have like one more?

And I was like, I only have one more. If this isn't the tape, we don't have any more. Oh, God, it's so bad. Oh, that I don't know if it's good. Maybe I should watch it, maybe I shouldn't, I don't know. You should check it out. I'm scared to it. No, I'm sorry.

Have you not watched it yet? Even if it's bad, that's like, I'm so scared. I'm so scared to. Do you like watching shows or movies that you voice in? There's times, okay, I, there's certain voices and certain voice types and certain character types that I know that I can just, like, that my voice lands really well to and that I, I tend to, like, if it's a cocky asshole, I'm like, okay, I feel like I feel like I can, do that really well. I know. Okay, everyone's going to say yes, because it's like, will you like in real life? Okay, thank you.

But those type of characters I feel like really comfortable doing, but when it's more like stuff out of my range, I don't really like watching it because I'm like, man, I feel like I just didn't do a good job. Right, like you could do better. Like I know I can do better and I probably should watch it back so I could learn. Right. But also, also if it's something that I'm like, it's a video game or an anime or a TV show that I'm really passionate about, I'll watch it.

like I hope yeah I think it's out by the time this comes out like Omega Strikers I'm really fucking excited to hear what I sound like in that game because I don't know what it's like I'm so fucking hyped because the game looks good

I haven't even played it because we've been on tour because we've been on tour this whole time I haven't been able to play it but all my friends at play I say it's so fun and it's addictive

and I'm like no they're finally a game that I voice it that's good or like they're not good but popular sorry yeah yeah so excited for that yeah that's sorry tangent about me

Sorry. It's much people that use. It was us. Last the grads. Dude, that's crazy. That's like, what, two or three things now we've both done things for? All right, nice. Last the grads.

I should watch it. Next time we've got to be in a movie together. Live action. Where do I watch Last of Grads? What do I can get it? I don't know if it's still on the same site that it launched on. I think it went to Triller. Is it Shudder or Triller?

The only thing I know how that is that they sued H3. Yeah, I don't know if it's Truller. Which one's the horror one? Is it shutter? Oh, my, okay, Trill is the box. Oh, I think it's, in my shutter. Yeah, I know the one you're talking about. Yeah, I can't remember.

My wife watches a new horror movie every day and it's always on this fucking bad. It's whatever one she's watching. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the one with all the horror movies on. That process really, really, really, really, really, really, really, people who make movies that don't do well. Oh, my God, yeah, it's got to be miserable. I was like, because, you know, like these, when we talked to them about it,

they were, I'm sure you had the same thing. Like, they were really, really passionate on, you know, the... I'm sure they all are. And it's like, it's like, fuck. Could you imagine putting so much time and effort in something? And people are like, it sucks. A wall is cool, man. It's shit.

Oh, funny, funny moist man. You know what I mean? Like, that's, like, no, I spent time on this. I feel mad. Exxon director be like. Yeah. No, fuck off. No, there's way more passionate than this thing.

There was no fucking passion than Exxon. Fuck off. This thing had passion, it just wasn't there. I've got to try to finish Exxon now. Now they can't like forward it back into my mind. I'm not going to do that. I'm going to try, man. I'm going to try.

You said you're in episode two? I got to like episode two or three, yeah. Three is so fucking bad. Oh my God. It's probably because they never thought anyone was going to get to three. It just turned. If it was like five minutes of episode one, I was ready to shut them off. Yeah, it's miserable.

They're just like, they're so late. You just hit like other fucking stuff playing in the background when they were recording the audio like fucking Rick and audio. They're just like, ah, fucking leave it in. I'm not really recording this shit. Oh my God. Well, dude, thank you so much for coming. No, thank you for having me.

This is a lot of fun. Hey, look at all these patrons flying by. Who's your favorite patrons? Oh, I'm a big fan of Gray, Paul Post. Is there anything you want to shout out? Anything you want to mention? No, just thanks for having me on. Dude, thank you so much.

It's good to finally have you on, man. It's been a pleasure. Thank you to inviting us to your complex. This is an amazing space. And I think you, you defended your Jojo-Tay. Yeah. Did I convince anyone? Do you guys think?

I understand. Are you convinced me that it is an understandable take? I don't agree. We'll allow it, but I'll allow it. I think it's an acceptable take. Yeah, we'll allow it. Next time we'll make more persuasive arguments. It'll be like a 30-minute essay.

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