Trash Taste Podcast - We Finally Got Judged For Our Worst Takes (ft. @ProZD) | Trash Taste #232

Episode Date: November 29, 2024

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Testing one, two, three, one, two, three, one, two, three. Hello, testing. Testing, testing. What's so funny, boys. You just came out with an aura. It's like you attacked the mind. It's like hockey. Me getting ready to hear the worst takes of my life.

Dies was cringe. Welcome back to another episode of Trash Tase. I'm joined once again by the boys. And of course, a returning guest, Sung Warn, how you doing, man? Good, how about you boys? Feel like I bring on like a disappointed parent. Yeah.

It's funny, I saw a comment on the previous time I was on where someone would describe me as a general checking in on his anime lieutenants and all the bad decisions they've made. Right, right, right. So despite my better judgment, I have returned. We've changed a little bit there. We all did like, I've played some games

and watched the cutscenes. Wow. So I've, the bare minimum. You came to my house and directly apologize. I did, I did apologize. You did tell me you changed your ways. Is that true? Did he?

He has started playing JRPGs. Okay. He played Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy 7. Yes. And 8. Yeah. Oh, okay. What do you think?

Which one's your favorite? Nine. Sorry, out of the three Final Fantasy's? Yes. Nine. I think he goes nine. Probably seven than eight. Okay.

Yeah. Nine's the best one. Nine is the best one. Where you made that sound, made it sound like Connor, went to his house and just like fucking... Yeah. What's... What's the fucking dog is that?

Just like... That's not far. So, and then, do you still watch it two times speed? Yeah? Yeah. He does. He does. He does.

Unfortunately, that has... I mean, it is a... It is a necessary part of my life. Not all of us can change, unfortunately. But... But Joey watched Arcane. as well. Okay.

I did. Yes. We had to force him to watch Arcane. Yeah. But it's good. I enjoyed. Okay. But that's, you know, that was last time.

We don't know what's gonna be said on this podcast just yet. I'm sure we'll find other ways to disappoint. Yeah, there might be a fresh batch of shit to work off of. Oh, I've got something. What's up? Bochie the Rock.

Oh, he come out swinging. Okay, I'll let him take this one. I'd like to hear What do you want to hear? What are your opinions on Bochy the Rock? I think it's kind of ass. Why? Because one, the music is just not very good.

That's not true. I think it relies way too heavily on the social awkwardness, which is just way too overplayed. Okay. No one acts like her in real life, and people who say they do is just lying to themselves. Do you know many introverts?

Many, many introverts? Yeah, but then not that fucking introvert. Mm, okay. And is that it? Do you know any introverts that are that introverted? I've run into many people. I'm sweating for you. I'm sweating.

No, I'm standing down. Okay. I'm not gonna let the general scare. I'm the soul that fights back. I'll say this much. I run into a lot of people at conventions. I know they come up to meet me at like an autograph table or something. And yes, I have encountered people who definitely are at that level.

Maybe you just give off a terrifying, I do give a... I think... Maybe when they're not in front of you, they're just like the most chirpy, like... Maybe everyone's a bochi in my present. Okay, so you don't like the music and you thought the main character was exaggerated.

Is that it? Yeah, way too exaggerated. To the point where it just became not fun to watch. Do you think it's funny? No. What kind of anime do you think is funny? Not bocci. Okay, I'm asking you what kind of anime do you think is funny?

You're asking me all my favorite... comedy anime? Sure, yeah. If I had to pick, probably Nietzschejo. Okay, Nietzschejo's good. Yeah, yeah. I like the absurdist comedy. Uh, okay.

Whereas like, I feel Bochi, just every joke, joke, had a formula that just got old really fast. Interesting. You know, at the first couple of episodes, I was like, okay, yeah, she's super socially awkward, and you know, it's funny to see her turn into a blob. Ha ha, ha, funny. But when it's that for 10 episodes, I'm just like,

I mean, come on. See, I'm just happy there's someone here to help me fight my fight. Because you're a pro-bochi, right? Yeah, some very pro-bochee. What about you? I haven't seen it. Leave me out of this.

Leave me out of this. He's definitely not pro-votech. But just on the record, I don't stand for it. Yeah. Well, you don't have an opinion on, because you haven't watched it. I mean, it looks like the exact kind of show that was scientifically engineered to not be for me. What kind of show?

So, okay, first off, I'll finish the bo-chchuk. Yeah, sure. Like, ultimately, comedy is subjective. So I'm not going to try to convince someone that something is funny. Yeah. Okay. I think for me, the comedy does work.

It does surprise me that it doesn't because I think there is a lot of absurdist comedy in Bochie, like the way she's like her reactions to things. Yes. It does feel like maybe just I can understand a character putting you off and that kind of ruins the show for you in a way. No, because that's the thing, it's like there were characters in Bochi that I really, really enjoyed.

Sure. You know, the drunk bassist girl, fucking love her. Okay, not her name. The other, some of the other, you know. What's going on in the show, by the way? Why is there a drunk basis girl on there? She's like 12.

She's not 12. She's not 12. How old is she? She's like mid 20s. She's mid 20s. Yeah. Bochi? No, no, no.

No. The basis girl. The drunk, the actual, the actual band members are like, they're high school. Yeah, they're high school. Yeah, but then, where's the drunk person coming to this? Because, uh, one of the band members' sisters runs the, like, uh, Runs the life house.

And he's with the hype house. I was like, I was like, I was like, the high house, Yeah, the Rocheye's a hall. And the drunk chick is one of the friends of, yeah, got it, got it, got it. Okay, okay. And like, and her role in the story is like, Bochi sees her being so, like, and like, you know, full confidence on stage and that inspires her to be a little more like open on stage.

Oh, she's 28? No, no, no, wait. Yeah, the drunk. The drum, the top right. The drunk base is like 28. Also the live house chick is hot as far. The 29 year old? The 29 year old.

Which one of the drunk basis trick? I'm into the 30 year old sister myself. She's all of them look 15. Just to practice. That's just called an art style. Okay, I just want to say. Can we all agree they all look exactly the fucking same age? I mean, this is not a very,

like you're looking at this from really far away as well. This would be the same. If you had to see it for a cat, would be the same. What the fuck? Yeah. Okay, okay. Oh, it's in 1080p, I can't see it. This is just the clip of, uh,

480P. I think Joe St. Marino going, I say nothing. If I say something, I'm in trouble. I don't want to be in trouble. Okay, let's not get into the fucking age of the camera. Okay, I, okay, you put a try to, You put a chokron, now you're 29, sure. Yeah, that's the anime rule.

Yeah. Okay, sure. So I'm presuming you're a big fan of the show. Oh, I love the show, yeah. I think the music's great. I don't know what you're talking about. He's just, what, okay. What do you not like about the music?

It's the most basic fucking shape of all over. Considering you like Kion, Joey, I don't know how you can say this right now. Oh, but Kial music was way better. Oh, my God. Man's in the hot seat. I like, I like Kion a lot, but I like, But tomato tomato and you're like, yeah, I'm, I don't know, man.

It's just a personal thing, I guess. Here's a thing. If Kian didn't exist, let's say this was the first of its kind, do you think your opinion on it would have changed? Do you think there's some comparisons to Kion? Actually, what do you like about Kion? Because I want to know. Do you not like Kian?

I don't like Kion. I love this. I'll fight you too. Oh, okay. It's my side now. Okay. What I liked about Keon is that it didn't take itself seriously and it was just like dumb fun.

Whereas with Botchy, I feel like, I don't know, they're a little bit too tryhardy in some parts of like trying to tell like a deep story about a character like getting over her fears on stage and da-da-da. Man, if I'm only had popcorn right now. And I'm just like, I'm like, let's not kid ourselves. That's not the reason why people are fucking watching this show. Yeah, I mean, for me.

I disagree about you, go ahead, yeah, yeah. Bocchi is what I wanted Kion to be. Bocci is the show I thought I was going to get when I started watching Kion. Yeah. And unfortunately, you know, I wanted more of a focus on, you know, stuff like the struggles that Bocci was going through,

really getting overhang her anxiety, seeing some character progression, just even a little bit in Bocci. I felt like Kion way more lean into like the slice of lifey, kind of like vibey aspect of things. Sure. And I just wanted some more plot progression.

So you want to plot. Yeah, yeah. I wanted more plot, which K-O-K-Oen does have, but it's definitely not the draw. It's definitely- It's not the draw. Also, I'd say the first season has more of an arc. The second season doesn't really have much of an arc. From what I remember. Yeah.

But it is very, very fluffy slice of play. That's the vibe. Yeah. I actually really like that Bo Chi, I mean, obviously your mileage will vary on the main character, but I really like the main character, and I like seeing her sort of emotional growth and her confidence go up. in the friendships form. Have you guys seen sound euphonium?

Yes. What do you think of sound euphonium? I think it's fantastic. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that. And so, and so peace has returned.

I know you haven't seen a single one of these shows because they don't have a Naruto in it or whatever. What the fuck? Okay. What the heck? I love that. What the heck? First of all,

I haven't watched a narrative. You haven't seen Naruto? Well, I've watched a couple of things. It's boring. Let's go back to a thing we were talking about. What's a Connor anime? What is it Connor anime? Connor anime?

What's your favorite anime? Great Pretender? No, that's not- You call me out. You know, I'm a phony? Last time, what's your favorite anime? Oh, my favorite anime. The one of the Atari series is my favorite.

That says a lot, okay, sure. All right. I mean, the most important- If I had to pick. The most important anime to me is the Ava series. Okay, sure. It's my favorite is hard. Yeah.

Uh, yeah, it's hard. I mean, I don't think it's like the best show, but definitely Bacano, especially the dub of Bacano, I love so much. So much so that my YouTube avatar is fucking, it's inspired by Bacchano, the white suits that were on the trail.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Love Bacano. I would say Connor loves anime that doesn't feel, how can I say it's too anime? Yeah, yeah, I'm very adverse, more grounded. If it's said in the school, he immediately doesn't like. They're talking about me like I'm like a pet, which is true.

No, it's the schools, the schools I'm not a fan of, and the whole like. If it's true tropey, you know. Very tropey. Yeah. I'm not a big fan of, I guess, okay, I've not watched Bochutechut, not seen anything of Bochoo,

but everything that I have seen of it looks like every single kind of trope and story element that I would not enjoy hearing about. And maybe there's something wrong with my brain where I can't like. No, no, you just know what you like. Yeah, I mean, I'd say a lot of people, just like, you know, they don't like the tropeiness

of anime sometimes. And some people like me, I love that. And I love both kinds of like, I like it sometimes, like if it's done in like a tongue and cheek way, like, you know, not serious type of way, in almost like like a post-irotic type of way, then there's some where I'm like, okay, yeah, that's just fun and done.

But if it's done like a little too on the nose, then I'm kind of the same as Connor, I'm like, all right, yeah, I've seen this five-up time. And like, the joke is that it's like always set in a school. But I think that normally when an anime is set in a school, it normally means that a bunch of these tropes are gonna follow that I'm not fond of. It's not school.

What are some examples of tropes you not fun of? That's good, I mean, I have to answer that. That's a good question. He's sparing no one. No, no, no, no, no, you want receipts and that's totally fair. The hard seat is on, all, all right? That's fine, that's what I'm gonna comment.

Okay, so I think that, all, so first of all, anything that is like too heavily, like, fan service-esque element or like, I'm with you on that, I don't like that. Anytime they have like a, any character that is like Meliotis is immediately a no, anytime the character is so socially awkward

beyond belief, it's not that I don't believe that that is a thing that happens. I just don't want to watch a character that's like, oh gosh, Should I say hi to her? Oh, I don't know. It's like, yeah, I'm sure I had those thoughts when I was 12, but I'm not 12 anymore

and I don't want to relive those. And to me that's not a compelling. Basically, I don't want to see a teenager being awkward because I don't want to experience that anymore. I've lived that enough. So all of those kind of tropes that follow that, anything that's like, if there is a like triple love triangle,

I'm normally rolling my eyes. I don't know triple love triangle, that's just a love triangle. I can fuck with that too in the right. It needs to be done right though. Yeah, yeah. There's so many times just done for the sake of it. If it's a love triangle that's just like,

oh, the main character said something and you misunderstand and then there's like this big misunderstanding and then, you know, that there's an entire fucking, yeah, there's an entire fucking two arc, two episode thing on that like one simple misunderstanding. That's why like I felt like you watch Oceanoco and you're like, oh, it's kind of an interesting premise and then it quickly just becomes a,

is he gonna fuck his sister or not story? And you're like, well, it's kind of not really, I was kind of hoping it wasn't gonna be that. I would argue that that's more the fandom. Yeah. Really? Okay. Yeah. But that's like a way I felt like it was going.

You're like, what? I would say with Oshanoco, it didn't need that aspect so much. And I think- Which aspect? The whole like best girl. Okay, okay. Because it's not just like the sister. But that felt very like corporate, like a corporate decision.

It's like, how will we sell the most? Yeah, because that's what people love. Let's have a wife who war. No, I just think, I think he liked that. I think he liked it. that shit, which I can understand. I could fully believe that. I mean, that's the same time it felt.

This is the man that wrote Negima. Yeah. Which was like the most like, who's the wife? No, no, no. It's Kagiyosama. Oh yeah. Sorry, my bad. Yeah, I'm thinking of Akamatsu.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry. Um, but because, because I think, I think like Oshonoko has compelling drama and has some really cool explorations on like the Japanese entertainment industry and then they were just- Yeah, I agree. But also, let's just add a best girl war as well.

Yeah, you're like, Why? I don't know. Yeah. Did you like Oshanokeau? I haven't seen it. Okay. That's why I'm sitting here. Just waiting.

No, not waiting. Just observing. I thought you were like stewing a response. No, no. Have you watched Girls Band Cry? No, I've heard good things, though. You would very much enjoy that. My problem is for me,

I'm always watching anime that's old that no one cares about. I'm watching through Gintama right now. Oh, that's fucking fantastic. You guys can agree. Are we getting to the point where Gintama's old? I was just like, wait. I mean, it's getting them.

I realized, because in the beginning, Gintama was like, it took me a little bit to get into it. Yeah. I'm about a hundred or so episodes into it. And I realize that it's just animaniacs. The anime, anime, animaniacs. Yeah, in a sense.

Like, it's very much like, I mean, it's animanics with like every now and then there's actual emotional stakes. Yeah. But it's three wackos just doing shit, and there's always references going over your head. Yeah. Yeah.

Especially as an English viewer. Like when you watched anime, you know animaniacs? Yeah. Yeah. When you watched as a kid. I just liked all the funny things going to. Yeah,

but they would always be doing like references to things you didn't understand as a kid, but didn't matter, right? Yeah. Yeah, I'm enjoying that. That's a lot, though. What do you mean? The interm is long.

Yeah, but it's good. Yeah. Okay. But you've got a lot, you're playing a ton of board games, you're watching a ton of games, how do you find a ton of games? How do you find time for all this?

I think for me, board games are the big priority, which I think I saw you guys played Gloomhaven. Yes. How did you see this? Yeah. How'd that go?

A lot of fun. But the tutorial was, that took a long time to figure out. The regular version? No, no, no. We did the lions, something. Oh, even with that, it was still.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Well, it was just because I think that, so we, our friend died us, he'd played it. And so he was telling us a bunch of rules that the thing didn't want to tell us about yet. So we were getting kind of confused and stumbling. And it wasn't his fault there was that.

We just didn't know either. Yeah, but it felt more confusing to learn about mechanics that were coming later and then be like, oh, wait, no, wait, now we're supposed to learn about this mechanic. Yeah. Right, right. And it was a little tough to get,

because you have to punch everything out, to get all the stuff. And yeah, I feel like it was, it was great playing board games with you because I didn't have to do anything. And you were like, I know everything. Let me just walk. And I realize how much more fun board games are when you have someone who's like, sit back,

pick up your cards, I'll tell you everything. I am happy to be the board game shepherd. Basically, I'll go and I'll go through all the rules. I think one of the biggest obstacles is a big rule book and you're not used to playing board games. That just kills momentum. Yeah. Especially when you have like, you know,

if there's maybe four of us there and we're there for two hours going over the rules. That feels like a real like momentum killer when you're like, we just wanna play board games. We didn't wanna like study for a test. Yeah, because I think, you know, I mean you introduced Con to Slate Aspire

which what a fucking fantastic experience that was. And I think going from that, if we didn't have the experience of playing that and going straight into Gloomhaven, it would have, it would have been, that would have been a fucking too big of a leap. Yeah, Blumen's heavy. I think it's unfortunate that your friend kind of maybe went ahead

because I think Jaws of the line actually really well puts you through all the steps in a very reasonable way. Yeah. But I can understand the excitement of, oh, well, this is basically how you do it in New York. Yeah. I think you're super excited to share the game. Yeah. But I think once you play the game, it's not that complicated. Oh, no. It's just, you know, this card you move and this card you attack, right? And then you just have to choose and you lose your hand as you go. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I think the mechanisms in it are actually very elegant once you start going with it. Yeah, it's more of like just the, you know,

info dump of just so many mechanics and so many different things. And the big ass rulebook that is, you know, obviously going to be very scary for newcomers. So I think everyone needs someone like you who is able to just take the hands and be like, children, here's how to play the game, come along, I'll explain everything.

The Moses of Borg. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The worst part is when like, when we're doing like, I don't know, Slater Spire, when you're like, you're not sure exactly how a mechanic works in a game. And everyone's debating of like,

I think it should work this way. And the rule isn't, doesn't really clearly. And the rules doesn't clearly define how the mechanic works in X scenarios. You're like, what the fuck? But Slater Spire was really good there. Yeah, Slater Spire. And just playing it once with you,

I was able to like, then, like, this is how we play it guys. Is how we do it. Nice, nice. Did I last time ask you guys if you knew how many board games I played, did we go over that? We weren't into board games back

So I don't think we did, but now- If we did, the number's gone up. Yeah, because I, what's it out now? Can we get the coffee, Kai? I would like you to guess. I'll pull it up. All right. That you've, okay, so are these board games

that you've played till completion? Yeah. To complete. I don't count jack off unless you don't jack off in the version. It just wouldn't count. It wouldn't feel right. No, I just set it up, looked at it and put it back in us.

I don't know if you edge with board games. I'd say, I have the total right here. I think, Are you guys, where it's closest will win the price? I don't even know what a lot of board games is.

He'll decide. He'll decide. Okay, I, okay, you know, you guys go, because I feel like I have a number of my mind. God, I have no clue.

How many board games you think I've played in my life? In your life? Sure. 70? 70? Yeah. Okay, what's your guess?

I was gonna say way more than, I was gonna say, like 200. Okay. I'd say, I think, about 1,000. 2,125. What the fuck?

I was gonna say 2000 initially, but you guys were in so low. I was like, wow, I was like a crazy person. I was gonna say 500, but then he says 70, I was like, oh, fuck. Damn, I should have gone first. I think 70 is what I play in like a month.

I have no bearings about how many ball games there are. A ball games are a lot. There are a lot. There's like thousands and thousands. Oh yeah, we had a discussion. We were like, what is the most complicated board game. We were trying to find it what it's most complicated board game you've played.

Would you think? Because the internet was telling us some 1980s paper thing we have to like feel out a bunch of stuff to play real like. In your opinion, what is the most complicated board game you've played? That would be something like this isn't the most, but like through the ages is very a lot. Right. Kai bringing up. Yeah. What are some other ones that are like? But the real honestly, oh one I don't like. is Mage Knight. Mage Knight is too fiddly for me. Mage Knight.

Oh yeah, so for reference, can the audience see this screen? Yeah, yeah. 4.4 out of five, that's crazy, is extremely high. Yeah. And usually anything that's four to five on board game geek, honestly,

kind of, even for me, I'm like, ugh, it's like a little bit of a pain in the ass. So what you do in this game? You, it's like SIV. It's like you're basically, you play through like the eras and stuff. All of the complicated games seem to be. It's a good game.

Like I've played, I have played, oh, that isn't even, not even that bad. I've played this and the original version. Right. And it's a fun game once you, like, know the rules,

but it is a lot to learn. And so, you know, I like games like this, but these are usually the games that eventually will leave my collection because you can only play these kinds of games with certain people. Yeah.

Most people do not want to sit for two hours. This does seem like a very, specific to have a personality. Exactly. Ah, yes, I want to keep track of all this. I basically have my friends in tears of like board game, what they can handle. So like some people can fuck with anything.

Yeah, like they're like any game, doesn't matter if it's one out of five, five out of five. We'll do it. Complexity, I'll do it. Some people are like, this is their worst nightmare. Which I understand. This is Joey. This is right. You think you like this? Yeah, because like, I don't mind complicated board games.

As long as like I'm into the theme. Yeah. I think this is a game where I would require a song one. I need someone who's played it. I just think like I would not want to read this rule book. Yeah, so this one's intense. Pull up Mage Knight. Mage Knight is a type of game I don't like

because it's very complex but it's very fiddily in like the ones that drive me crazy. So it's like 4.37 also very much. It's a game that you, you know, you're going through and you're exploring like a grid and shit. Oh, oh my God. Well,

that's just all the cards laid out. It's not, you don't play it. Yeah, you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like a hex grid thing

and you go out and it's not a bad game. Like the combat's not bad, but it has all this shit. I remember like, oh, if you're in a forest, then you do it this way, but if there's an archer,

you do it this way. And there's so many little intricacies like that. Whereas, you know, if this is like the one game you play, you play this like every weekend with your buddies, like,

you've played 100, times. That's the kind of game that, you know, it can be rewarding. Yeah. For me, I'm playing it like once and I'm like, I never want to play this again because it's way too much. Shit, my biggest gripe is like, oh, fuck, what's it in the rule book? Oh, okay. Yeah. What is it? Yeah. Like having to keep going back. Yeah. Yeah. That's a pain in the yeah. So for me, honestly, two to three is like the perfect range. I think two to three is like, anyone can play and it still is like a substantial experience.

Yeah. One to two is like party games which are fun but you know it's party games. Yeah, yeah. Two to three is meaty but you don't need to spend two hours to learn. Right. Once you go three to four,

it depends but yeah. I'd say for those, if you're a board game or interested in board games and BGG is a really good way of like, oh, I'm interested in this game. If it's one to three, that's a good start for like a beginning board gamer. If it's three and up, don't start with that as you. Can you type in Gloom Haven

Jules of the Lion? That's probably like a three point. I don't think it's that bad. I think it's probably like 3.8. I'm gonna try to guess. I'm gonna try to guess their uh, what do you think it is. I think the original Bloom Haven is like 4.1 and this is 3.8. I said 3.6.4. But then the first Gloom Haven is probably around a four. Yeah. So this was marked as like the easy version. Yeah, this is This is the beginning of any version. Yeah. And I've played this version. I really liked it.

Yeah. So this one's right almost very much closer four. I've played this to I haven't played all of it. But it's, yeah, Jaws the Lion takes you through step by step. Yeah, it like introduces every mechanic

just a little bit by little bit. Which I thought was a great way to do it. Yeah. So I recommend it. If you're interested in Gloomhaven, I actually suggest you start with Jaws of the Lion first. The real question is, though, have you played game monopoly?

Oh, come on. Game Monopoly? What is game monopoly? It's exactly what you think it is. Oh, gay monopoly. Yeah, yeah. I thought you're saying game like a Nintendo. Game monopoly.

No, so what's gay monopoly? It's monopoly, but gay. What are the properties? Well, I guess it's just normal monopoly, but a circular board. Yeah. Because there's no squares. Yeah.

It's because it's not straight. Yeah. I guess so it's like, so if there was like someone who I guess had only played board games like, you know, monopoly risks, or like the, you know, well-known mainstream ones. What is the gateway, what is the gateway board game,

would you think to get into the whole like board game culture and the board game world? Um, what's, what's risk? What weight is risk at? My guess, don't, don't, I'm gonna guess it's probably around, uh, two. Oh, wow. Wow. This is a one new game now.

Pick one more game. I'll see if I can guess the complexity rating. Uh, slow the spot. That's probably like the three, $3.7. No, no, 3.5. That's my guess. Slay the spire.

Slay the spire. Yeah, yeah. 3.1. Five. No. Wow. Wow. You know, that makes sense

because it's actually not that crazy once you get into it. Yeah. I think I just told people when I played it. I was like, just, just, we'll come across it when we come across it. Because I will say, especially like

Slate a spire versus Gloomhaven, um, did feel like a big step up in terms of like, It is a big step up. But not so much the complexity, it was just the amount you needed to learn from that. Because I would say, before doing this, I'd only really played party games and the normal board games.

This was, this was personally my gateway board game now that I've gotten more interested in it. And but if I didn't have Connor, I would not know. Oh, he spread this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Because I didn't know we were gonna, like, when you, when I went to your house, yeah.

I didn't know what I was getting myself into. Sure. Because I thought I was going to pick the stuff up where you don't play some games and I'd be like, all right, man, see you later. Yeah. But then we started playing and then I was like,

holy fuck, it's six o'clock. Yeah. I came over at like 12. Yeah. Yeah. And this says 30 minutes to 150. It was like, we were going for ages. Yeah.

It was longer than this, I feel like. Well, did we learn it? Uh, had I played it already. I think you'd, I think, I think, I forget that was my first time. No, it wasn't. I don't think so. But anyway, it was something where,

you know, you gotta teach that usually. Yeah, yeah. I also, these playing times are always a fucking lie. Like, it's not 30 minutes for this game. Yeah, if you're dog shit. If you die in the first, like, map or whatever. Yeah.

I always tell people, if you see like 30, like double it easily. Yeah, yeah, this is double. It doesn't include learning the rule. It doesn't include setting up the board, you know, shit like that. So how did you get into, like, what started this like obsession? The first board game that really got me into was a forbidden,

Island, if you want to look it up. A bit of an island. Look it up, Kai. What's that one about? I bought it on a whim. Back when I was going to Oticon, any of you go to Oticon? I remember Odicon.

I've never been personally. Back when it was in Baltimore. So I just was with some friends at Barnes & Noble. Right. And I saw this game on the shelf. I was like, hey, the cover's cool. Maybe it's going to be some stupid game, you know, but it might be good for a laugh.

And then it's actually very, fun. And I still would recommend this to people who have never played a board game. It's just a co-op game, which you're going around, you're trying to pick up these artifacts and like the island is like sinking like as time goes on. And it's like, all right, race, can you get there, grab that thing? Let's get and get to the ship and go or whatever. There's like four of these. It's like forbidden island, desert, sky and I think jungle is the newest one. But yeah, like it's just this made me go, oh shit, like board games can actually, they're not just like, you know, for K. like shitty monopoly or whatever.

Yeah. And this one's not hard to learn. And it's very exciting, like, especially with your first time playing. So like this was a good one. To answer your question before, like, I think I talked about the maybe last time I was on, but like pandemic is a good one. Ticket to Ride is fun. Oh, Tickets to Ride.

Yeah. Yeah. There's just like, you know, ones that are not crazy, complicated and, you know, just fun. You guys ever play the mind? I've never played that. No. I would pay money And maybe your Patreon would

To well up the mind Oh gosh This sounds intense The mind The mind Yeah 2018 So

It's just a deck of cards I think it's like one to a hundred Yeah one to a hundred Yeah And you randomly get dealt numbered cards You can't talk And you have to play them

In numerical order without fucking Oh I have played this year What? Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just, so in the first round, you each get dealt one of the random, one out of 100 cards.

Oh, I should just carry games with you shit all the time just to force people to play them. I played this game, but I think it was like a different name or something. Or there was like a Japanese version. Oh, maybe, okay. What did you think of it?

Oh, it's so good. Okay. Yeah, especially when you have like quite a large number of people as well, like five, six people. Sure. It just becomes chaotic. It sounds very stupid, but yes, you each get a card and you just have to

put them on the table. Just telepathically figure out. Without communicating. Without talking to each other. Surely you would just always play your lowest card, right? But so for example, let's say I had a 40 and you had a 12, let's say he had a 30, he had a. Oh, it's not like in order.

Oh, so you have to just be like, you have to play yours first. You have to like read the vibes of people. You have to look around and be like, I think I might. Oh, but we won't have all of the numbers. Correct. Yeah. That's cool.

That's cool. I think I might have the lowest number. Because what it is is you start, if you play with the same number of people, or the same people over and over, you start to go, oh shit, like Connor like rushes or something, right? Like he's always like going to way too fast.

Like you put down a fucking 30, like it's wait. So then the next time you play, it's like, all right, he's probably going to jump the gun. So I got to put my eye cart out fast. You know, it's, you're just sensing, sensing the vibe.

Yeah, yeah. That sounds a lot of little fun. Yeah. That one is. I have to get fun. Yeah. And then each level you go up, you know, level two, you each have two cards. Right, right.

The final level for four players is eight cards each. Wow. Oh, wow. And what's funny is, and then you have like a certain number of, you can mess up like a certain number of times. There's also like an item you can use where if you all agree and raise your hand, you can all discard your lowest card. Yeah.

So to make it to like, if you're like shit, we're going to like lose the game. Let's use one of our right. Right. Oh, that's cool. Oh, that's neat. Yeah. That's really awesome. This game, what's funny, it's really hard.

And I've only beaten it, like, maybe like a handful of times with friends. But when I visited my family one holiday, I got it on a whim, and we beat it first try. And my family's like, oh, this is not hard. And it's just a game. I was like, no, you're like pulling your hair. I was kidding me.

This is like crazy hard, but. So you're like a board game similiar. You're like, I think this really is a great time for 2013 vintage. I actually do take pride in that. I mean, so. What's a, what's a, you know, not to talk only about board games. Well, no, we got plenty of time.

I feel like we've played more since. What's a, what's a type of game your experience you're looking for? Or a game you like or something. I'd say, like, like right now, I would say, I don't, I don't have too much experience, but the Slate Aspire was so much fun. Most of because it was the first time I played a cooperative kind of like, it was almost like turn base, turn base, turn base, turn base, card game, but I'm used to like competitive card games. So it was the first time that I was

working together with a team to clear something. And that was a really cool feeling. It felt like playing a co-op game. Aeon's End. Aeon's End. A-E-O-M. I bought this because you recommended it. Did you play it? I haven't played it yet. We're going to do a night. So it's a deck building game, co-op game where you're trying to beat like a boss. And it sends out like these monsters. It's a little, I'm going to try to guess. It's probably three point. 4. Aeon's end. Aeon's end.

3.4. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Wow. I am over. I am over. Well, maybe they've, they've had to like power creep it.

They've had to bring down the scores. Interesting. Anyway, so it's about around a three. So it's actually not too bad. Yeah. But it's a deck bit, ever play a deck building game?

Like a clank or actually Slade the Spires. Slade the Spires. Yeah. So it's a similar kind of thing. You're working together. However, you don't. shuffle your discard pile.

Okay, okay. So it's part of the strategy. Right, right, right. As you put cards in your discard pile, when you run out of cards,

you just take it and put it back your hands. Okay. And so in order. Yeah, you don't, you don't mix it. Oh,

wow. And so it becomes this thing, you can kind of make like combos and stuff. If you play the cards in the right order, knowing when you draw your hand later, those cards will come back.

All right, let's play it then. I bought it. All right. Let's do it. I sent him a list of usually message me and I was like, I think I said clank catacombs maybe.

You did, there was some that I couldn't find online or I couldn't find, there was some that had like 19 different like legacy version limit like, oh yeah, I was like what the fuck, which one do I get? I got the Dune one that you recommend. Oh, Dune Imperium. Yeah, that looks complicated, but it looks fun. It's beefy but it's great.

That looks really fun. Yeah, I want to put it. The Dune one was like 3.4. Yeah, something like that, yeah. It's like Dune. Yeah. Yeah. That one is worker placement.

Do you guys know worker placement? No, but I've really wanted to do a worker placement. Yeah, it's basically just, you got a bunch of guys, you put them on a thing, you do the thing. Yeah, that kind of thing. Yeah, this one looks awesome. I really want to do this one with the boys. And then I bought the zombie one.

So Zambicide. That's fun too, which you also recommend. It's just like dice chuck in, like, you know, kill zombies, try to cooperative game. It looked awesome. Great. Zombicide? Yeah, yeah, Zombicide.

Yeah, I definitely do like the RNG aspect of like dice throwing games. For sure. That's why I love like risk. Okay. Oh, yeah. You know, because it's just like you can strategize, but if your R&G is bad.

But I feel like risk R&G levels out because you dice roll so often, you do kind of get the average. Well, I think it's a good, you know, it's a good balance of like having that random element, but you do enough times that you can, percentages are on the side of the right place. I completely disagree. Risk sucks.

You think so? We had a great time playing risk. That's good. I'm happy for you. I played the risk legacy. You know, like, Legacy games. Legacy games are the ones where it's a campaign and you permanently change the board. Oh.

So it's like, imagine risk, but like, hey, depending on how shit went down, a sticker might go on this country. Right. Or like, you rip up this card or whatever. So that's legacy games. And Risk Legacy, it's pretty, it was the first legacy game. Right. It was pretty fun. But I kept rolling fucking ones.

Like, it was like, what's planning can I? do if I'm just going to roll one sort of. That's kind of fun though. It's funny. It's funny when it's not happening to you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it is something that I think that's why that's why a lot of games move away from pure dice roll.

Yeah, yeah. We played it again a second time and because none of us would kind of work together, one of us just became too powerful and just steamrolled everyone. Ah, I see. Because no one refused to cooperate to kind of make alliances. So it kind of just did, it fell apart. Gotcha.

But yeah. Yeah. I really want to get into more board games, but it's like hard because you gotta like do like a whole day, basically, I feel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's definitely like, I think the biggest thing that puts people off is, especially for some of these bigger ones,

it's definitely a commitment. Because you are sitting there for like three, four hours sometimes. And you have to get people who come over to do it as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And pay attention. And pay attention, yeah. I have a very hard rule of, unless it's an emergency, put your fucking phone away.

Like, I'll ask, if someone has their phone out, I'll be like, oh, Oh, it was an emergency? They go, no. Just smack it out of the hand. I'll just go, I'll wait. Because I think, you know, be in the moment. Yeah, I didn't even realize I didn't use my phone.

Yeah, you did. That's because the game was so fun. It was just so good. I couldn't stall. Listen, I'll pull it out if someone's taken like an hour on their turn. I'm like, yo, okay. And that's rare. Usually I will just sit and just kind of, you know, hang out.

Yeah. But sometimes if it's like, yo, you need to hurry the fuck up. But that's like a 1% like of the time. I don't know, for me, it's like, that's why I love about board games. It's a social experience, right? And usually, even if it's not your turn, it's fun to see what other people are doing

or give them shit or like, you know, just like talk. Like, so I try to, you know, just let's just, just be in the moment. Be in the moment. You can be on your phone whenever you want. Also, I can't imagine how fucking infuriating it is to like spend like a good 10 minutes explaining the rules and someone's like, I wasn't listening, sorry.

Can you explain that again? Exactly. So yeah, that's usually just what I ask of people. But usually if the game is really fun, you don't even look at you don't need to. I mean, the many times I think we were looking at our phones is to check the rules. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's always that one. Or I bought like the audio, the audio companion that would like narrate the thing. For which game? For Glen Hay. Oh, okay. Yeah, bought the narration thing.

So I was like, fuck it. Yeah. Have you ever thought about making your own board game? Now that you've gone through so many. So many. It's been like asked to me many times. I would say maybe. Yeah. Like it would depend on what do you what do you what do you find like the most fun? Uh, I feel like if I were going to do one, I love deck building games. That's my favorite genre. So if I made like a deck building game that I really liked, I think that would be that would be a lot of fun. Um, yeah, something that just is rewarding to play every time you play it. Yeah. I like that kind of experience. Yeah. Yeah. I can, uh, I mean, I've only played one, but that was, that was really fun. That was so much fucking fun. And I love to try the other one as well because, yeah,

I think the biggest problem is just finding times and finding the mates to come over. Do you do it every week where you're at? I usually play games twice a week. Twice a week. Oh, wow. So usually on Saturdays is a board game day for me. Right. And then I have a legacy group.

We do like, we go through all the legacy games and that's usually like once a week too. Oh, shit. So I'm playing pretty consistent. How do you like, because you're mentioning that you have friends that are in like the category of every game, some games. Do you like pick the game based on like who's coming?

Or are you like, I'm playing this game? And I invite, yes. Okay, okay. So like I go, I want to play this game. Who would like this kind of game? Yeah. Because I don't want to just invite them. And they're having a bad time.

Yeah. Yeah. So if it's like it's kind of a beefy game, I'm like, all right, I'll invite so and so and so and so. If it's like an easier game, like more people can play.

I'm like, great. I'll just invite, you know, whoever. Yeah. Got it. Do you have the problem of like, you're like, ah, man, this is a five player board game.

I want to invite six people or does that ever happen or? If there's a specific player count, I only invite. You're like, sorry. Yeah. I'm just like, four players,

it's great. Four players is like the perfect count. Yeah, I think so too. I think once you go beyond four, you kind of have to do party games. Right. Because like most games are designed for four.

You know, If you boys are in town and want to do a four player game. Oh, fuck you. But it has to be us four. Yes. Yeah. Just because beyond that, then it's like party games. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

If you want a real good time. No, it was really fun last time. I would love to have something, you know, maybe a little bit more beefier, you know, even something more beefier than we would do by ourselves. Anything you recommend, I'm fucking down. Sure. I'd like 19 spam the Submesee at your house. Oh yeah, that's right.

That's all I ate. It was so mad. And that was the first time you had Spam Musubi. It was, yeah, I've never had it for. Never Spam Missoui? I don't have it. Why would I have it?

It's coded. It's, I didn't know that. Now you know. You were like, oh yeah, I don't know. Spam. What? But my wife made some and you were like, it's legit.

Yeah, I was, I had it and I was like, okay, I'll have three more. Yeah. Just ate that for like seven hours. Yeah. It was so good though. Oh my Lord. Yeah, but that was really fun.

I think, I think, and again, like having someone who knew the game and walk you through it is such a more fun experience because it's just like having like a tutorial like the voice. Like, oh, awesome, okay, yeah. Then you're like, don't ask about this. All right, okay, okay.

And then they're like, all right, okay, when it comes up, it'll be relevant. Usually I'm like, yeah, just wait until the end for questions because oftentimes something you have a question I will be answered later. Right, right, right, right. So you said you bought that in 20, the first board game.

So what year did you buy that? 20 and 15 you say? Oh, God, when would have been? That would have been a long time ago. Maybe like 20, I think it was in college.

Oh, wow. So maybe like, $20 to $2,000 board games. Actually, I probably made a count around that time. What is that? I'm seeing spreadsheets. It's a board game geek, boyo. Oh, you rate every single board game you play?

Yes. Oh, I should do that, huh? It's great. The full, the full board games. That's just my anime. That's just my anime. That's right.

I made my board game geek account in 2016. So my guess is I might have played for, but now that maybe 2014. Because I bought like that and then I played a betrayal at house on the hill, which is like, that's like a very, a lot of people play that for their first game. Betrayal at house on the hill.

It's pretty good. It's like you're exploring a mansion and then one of you turns into a traitor. Oh, it's fun. I think I've played this one. It's definitely not to be a snob. It's definitely the one people go, oh, I love board games.

The trailer house on the hill. Oh, yeah. And I get it. It's a fun game. Like, I like it. The legacy version of this was actually pretty dope. Because you play through like generations of family, like, you know. Oh, that's cool.

Yeah, you play a generation. And then like the next generation, the house keeps all the stuff you did, but it's a new generation of people. Oh, that was pretty cool. This is a good starter game. It's like, I think, you know, you go around. and what's cool about it is randomly during the game, something happens,

and then one of you, you don't know who it's going to be, becomes a traitor and you have to leave the room. Okay, and you have your own manual that you look at of like secret rules. Right. And when you come back,

it's everyone against that player. Oh, shit. It's a fun little mechanic, but yeah. That looks awesome. Yeah. Are they like different, like, what are like the different genres of board games, would you say?

Oh, there's a lot. I just saw, I just scroll down. I just noticed that look at all these categories. Oh, yeah, okay, okay. Adventure, exploration, horror. You can go by like mechanism, like they have their category. Dysold, modular board player elimination.

So there's like, worker placement games, there's social deduction games, there's, you know, trick-taking games, there's all kinds of games. Are you a fan of social deduction games? What's social deduction games? Among us.

Oh, wow wolf. I love social deduction. Really? Oh yeah. Because you love torturing people. Yeah. Yeah, I did. Do you guys played Secret Hitler?

I have played that, actually. I have played Secret Hitler. What do you think? I thought it was a lot of fun. Okay. Can't remember much of the mechanics because we were pretty inebriated. Someone took it out.

Is it like one of the best ones, you say? It's one of my favorites. Basically it's, you know, you got, you're the, what the fuck are they called? The bad guys are the fashion? Your liberals are fascists and one player is a secret Hitler. And basically the fascists know who is on their team. The liberals don't and Hitler is secretly on the fascist team and doesn't know who they are.

And you're trying to pass a certain number of liberal policies while the fascists are trying to get six red cards. Okay. That's pretty fun. It's great. I've said one of my favorite things about a game like this is I love to see the hope die in someone's eyes. I have Jesus Christ I have successfully

There have been games where people trusted me with all Their They were like I can't trust someone Is legit though I know I know he's on The good guys team

And at the end They see me in a different life I want to be a mom Yeah I love these kinds of games. However, these kinds of games, you gotta warn people because they can get emotional.

They might not become your friend. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're someone who's gonna actually get your feelings hurt, which is fine. I think that's not, you know, if you know that about yourself, then I would avoid a game like this. Yeah.

But if everyone is there just to, you know, let's fucking go, you know, we're here to play, no hard feelings. Yeah. It's a great time. God, I remember last time I played this, I got heated because I think me and my wife were on a different team and I can tell

when she's lying, you know? I like, it was so obvious to me when she was like telling a lie. Yeah, but the hard part was convincing everyone else that she was a liar. Surely you just said, trust me. Huh? Just be like, I know, trust me. I mean, I mean, here's the like,

because the thing is, because I had to convince Emily that Sydney was lying. Oh no. And unfortunately, I had previously lie to Emily. Oh, okay. So that trust was broken. And so I had to fight, I had to fight this thing

of like, no, no, this time actually trust me. Actually fucking trust me. Have you seen me like massive meltdowns of a board game or like big fights during a board game? Because of like something to do with the mechanics. No, not like external drama. These kinds of games will make it happen.

I won't go and go and specifics, but sometimes I go like, oh, there's an actual fight happens. But it's few and far in between, I think. I think for the most part, it's like a fun kind of your hope dies, you know? Right, right. It's like a fun version of the gun. You've betrayed me. Is it like a, is there like a drama in the board game community?

Is it like a thing? What do you mean? Like controversy? Yeah, do they have like controversies about stuff or is it a pretty I think it's pretty chill. I think it's pretty chill. I think maybe stuff about, yeah, how would you get controversial? Well, I know because they always, there's like that board game, I'll take. It's like a community and I know that I'm sure there's something that, like, maybe a game came out one time that did something that was like, like, DLC and. Do you think there are elitists in the board game? Of course. Yeah, it must be.

Yeah. The only things I can think of are like sometimes like a Kickstarter goes really bad. Right. Like they just fuck it up or whatever. Yeah. And then the other stuff is like you're typical. Oh, this game came out with a new version because the previous version was kind of racist, so they made it not racist, and then people are like, it's not racist, blah, blah, blah, you know, that. That's the only thing I can think of. But most part, I think they're pretty chill, I think.

Is there like, let's say something like a fucking, I don't know, Jujica Kyson, where a lot of people are like, it's popular, but everyone's, so many people are like, it's overrated. It's, it's overrated in the board game world. Munchkin sucks. Munchkin. You know, Munchkin?

Munchkin. It's just like a card game. You're like always, you're just like, oh, ha ha, I play this card. Oh my God, I've played this one. What the hell is this? That's not good. I didn't like this one. I don't like it.

It's fine. It's just like a, ha, ha, I play this card and I, I beat your card and you, like, go up on points or whatever. It's like kind of a joke game. It's, it's fine. Yeah. I'm not a big. fan of it.

So that one can eat my ass. What's your opinions of Cards Against Humanities? Oh, fuck that game. That's the right answer. Yeah. You know, cars against humanity. Only any of those

kinds of adjacent games. Like if you're going to play a game like that, there's just the one that's called Say Anything where you just write your answers on a marker board. Yeah. Then it's like, okay, you can have fun with that. Yeah, yeah. But like, ha, ha, ha, ha, you know, Hitler.

It's so funny. Yes. It's like, no, fuck cards against humanity. I will refuse to play cards against humanity. I'm, I'm getting to that point.

And I was just like, okay, well, if someone said it sucks, then I can, for some reason, it's always that one card game that every house has.

I need to show people better. There are way better party card games. You know, just one? No? Just One is a very simple game. You all have like a little marker board thing.

And you're trying to get like each person, let's say it's Connor's turn. He's trying to get us or we're trying to get him to say the word, I don't know, turkey or something like that. Right, right. And so we have to write clues and usually have like, you know, five, six, seven people. You each write down a word on your own. But if you reveal and any of you wrote the same word, they cancel out and you can't show them. Oh. So you have to think of words that the other people aren't going to write.

Because what's going to happen is once we all reveal, because Connor has his eyes closed or whatever. And then it's like, all right, oh, fuck, Gart and I wrote the same thing. We block it. Connor has to guess the word based on what's left. Oh, so if you like Turkey, it'd be like meat, meat. Okay, so we could actually, yeah. So like, uh, pick a word, any word.

Television. Television. All four of us. Think of the word, one word you would say. We'll say it in unison. Okay. So television. Okay, okay.

Okay. Ready? Yeah. Three, two, one. Broadcast. What did you say? Program. Static.

Okay. I'd pretty get that. Yeah. So that's an example of how you would be. But if you both said like static. If we both said static, then ours would be canceled. That's a pretty cool idea. So it's not something you would play with four people because actually what's great

about BG got, BG is getting a lot of publicity. What's one of the best features is you see that best six to seven under the players. Yeah. Every board game. They tell you the best player count. Okay. So just one, you should play six or seven because you need enough people to have it to make it interesting.

If you only have three players working for Connor, then it's just like, well, we're probably going to. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah. Cool. That and the weight, telling you guys who out there, if you're interested in board games,

board game geek is indispensable because you couldn't pull up any game and go, oh, the weight, oh, it's one to two. Okay, that's an easy game. How many players? Oh, six or seven? because sometimes some games are listed like, you know. Yeah, they say they have outrageous ranges. Yeah, but some games are listed like, oh, two to six players,

but the best player count is actually two. Yeah. Aon's End is one where I think it can play well with anything, but I actually really like how it plays with the two players. Right, right. So like that's a really good guide of like, oh shit, is this good for my group? I have like four people.

Right. That's the kind of thing that you use it for. This is not sponsored, by the way. Yeah. We are shouting this out online. But I'm sure that I'm sure there's a massive part of our audience as well that wants to know, like wants to maybe play some board games with their friends, but just doesn't know where to start.

Yeah. Because you know, a lot of the time as well, I feel like when you're, when you're not in a friend group that plays board games, you'd be quite confident in recommending it being like, no, no, we should play this. It will be fun. Yeah. And I think you need to have that confidence, but you don't know unless you've played it, right? So I guess maybe having something like this where it's very easy to explain is a great way

to get people kind of into it. Right. Yeah. But then it'd be sucks when you're like 6 to 7. All right. Three of you leave. We're going to play. Slice five.

I need to piss quickly. Sure, sure. Yeah, some pot of games would be great to have. My games are really nice to have. That mind one looks really fun as well. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Really good one is Perudo.

Perudo. Liars dice. Okay. You know that game? No. Can we search this out? Perudo. Yeah.

How do you spell? Peru. E-R-U-D-O. It's like an old game. Like it's been- 1800s? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. All you need is like six cups and five dice.

Okay. Five dice each. It's just a classic bluffing game. So you like roll a dice then bluffing? So it's like you all roll your dice secretly and then you just start trying to predict how many dice are under everyone's cups. Oh. It's extremely fun. Oh, Liar's dice.

I've heard of Liars dice. Yeah. And so what- They played in Pirates of the Caribbean, like, like, three or something. Yeah. So do I like just hide how many I'm putting in the cup? All of you have a certain number of dice and you roll them and you and you look at them hidden. So you know your dice, but you don't know what anybody else is dice.

Right, right. So you might say like I think there's like nine fours and ones are wild. That's the thing. It's like when you say, oh, I think there are nine fours. Then the next player has to either raise that and go, I think there are 10 of something. Or they can call your bluff and say dodo and then you challenge and see who was right, who was wrong. Whoever was wrong, loses the dice. Oh, and then the last person with all their dice wins?

Yeah, yeah. Oh, wow. That's okay. Sounds fun. I was ranked number one in the world. Fuck, I'm not exaggerate. How do you get ranked number one in the world of this? Or game arena.

What? I was ranked number one in the world. At Liars Dice. How? I was very good. What's the strategy? Like, how do you ensure when? I'm not giving way my secrets.

Okay, okay. I'll say you can use, I mean, part of it, Part of it is math. Part of it is also you pay attention to what other people are bidding. Right, right. So it's like, okay, he bid eight twos. And then when it comes back around, it's like, okay, you really have twos? You know, you pay attention to the consistency of bets.

Okay. There is a math element involved for probability, right? Okay. Anyway, yeah. That sounds fun. It's very fun. Duff beer. Yeah, they have a Simpsons version, I guess.

Oh, okay. Because why wouldn't they? Lies dies. You've heard of this game? Yeah. Have you played it? Lies dice. Yeah.

1800s. Oh, I thought, is this, is this like the Chinese drinking game? Uh, maybe. Maybe. Okay, okay. Because I know, I know basically in China, they have something that's called lies dice. I don't know if this, this exact thing. It might be, yeah.

Yeah, but it's normally just something you see in every karaoke booth. That they, it's a drinking game over there. Oh, wow. Yeah. But what else you've been to in the, what else would be, have you been up to? Yeah, because obviously you're in Japan. as well. Crane gaming. Crane gaming.

Crane gaming. This is your fourth time to Japan, you said? It is, yes. We went to Osaka for a bit. For me, I've just been eaten. Eat and... As you do. That's all I do when I'm on making.

I all have specific dishes I want to try. Like this time I tried, is it Yanagawa Nabe? Do you know that? No. Maybe I want to make sure you get it right. But Yanagawa Nabe, basically there was this...

I got my... list here. I got lists for everything, Boris. Yeah. Yanagawa Nabe is like, yeah. We had it like, it was like sardines and it was in like an egg and onion, like sort of like.

It was pretty good. It was really fucking good. Where did you get it? I don't remember where we got it because we've been to so many places. Because what I, my strat is just, I don't try to like pre-plan too much when I go to Japan. Yeah. I just know there are things I want So I'm like, okay, I want to try Yanago and Abe. And I'll literally just Google Maps it.

Yeah, yeah. Like I'll just, you know, it auto translates everything. Yeah, yeah. That's honestly one of my biggest advice for people is don't worry too much about, like, I need to go to this restaurant at this place. Yeah. If you want to eat a dish, Japanese people use Google Maps and rate everything on there all that, like all the time, right?

Yeah. And I found really good places just like that, you know, normally tourists don't go to, right? And I was, I was going to say, there's usually more than one place as well for Exactly. I had a great experience. Actually, I will shout this place out specifically because it was just such a memorable time. I wanted tempura.

And I was like, okay, well, what's like a, you know, a good tempera place that's like nearby? And I just randomly searched tempura. Okay. And this place was called Wakataka in Shinigawa. And we go and sit down. And it was kind of intimidating. because I don't actually speak Japanese very well at all,

even though I've been here like four times. And basically it was like the classic joint where it's like only Japanese businessman and like they're kind of looking at you like, why are you here? You know, that kind of thing. And it was kind of awkward because they kind of had to move over

to make room for us. So they kind of like had to pick up their shit. And so we felt kind of bad. And so we sat down and we're kind of, and the menu is not in English at all. So we're like pulling out our phones and shit. I don't think this is it. No, that's the Grand Prince Hotel.

Yeah, I was going to say. I think it might be that one. Yeah, is it on the station next to it? It was. I just saw it. It's next to it. It's next station.

Yeah, yeah, I think this is it. And so we sit down and then like, we're just kind of pulling out our phones or whatever. And then we hear in perfect English, one of the Japanese business goes, then it goes like, you guys want to, you guys want to help or whatever?

And it was just like this guy was from Tennessee He's lived in Tokyo for like you know five six years or whatever Yeah, but then the rest of them you know all and then we just became buddies with these four Japanese business people And the temper was really fucking good Oh yeah And the guy actually the guy was like a former pro wrestler too and like oh shit What random ass like life Yeah yeah yeah oh yeah they're soft their tempera

soft oil. Oh, that looks delicious, man. They poured a good ass, like, they were like, I think the business people were saying, like, oh, yeah, like, they're professionally, like, professional beer pourers. Like, they make you say, like, the foam was perfect or whatever. The ratio. Yeah. And it was a good, it was a good ratio, too.

I was like, shit. C.S. I, yeah. Are you a big beer guy? Actually, no, because I'm not supposed to drink. Oh, okay. So for me, it's like special occasions. I mean, that, I mean, that's, you know.

Yeah. If they're like, we pull the beer perfect. Yeah, yeah. Professional beer. I have to try the beer. Exactly. So when I was like, oh, fuck, you're a professional beer for her,

I'll have a beer. Or like my weakness is always like, uh, umeshu. Like I love, I love like a plum wine. Yeah. Or if I'm at karaoke,

I love soju, you know, so I will indulge, but usually I'm supposed to like not, you know. Right, right, right, right. But if I'm gonna have a fucking professional poured beer,

you know. You can't say no to that. I can't say no to that. Get the ruler out. to be like, oh my God, it's the golden ratio. The golden ratio. That's why for me, just Google maps and just like find a place.

Yeah. There was one last trip. It was Kyoto. I don't remember the name of the place, unfortunately. I wanted to try like a specific tofu dish or a style of cooking. And so there was this random ass one like up in a neighborhood

like in the hills or whatever. And we like trekked up there. And the old woman there was just like so excited. She was like, wow, how did you find out about us? I was like, I just literally full-mapsed it. That's a good method of, I think, finding cool, cool spots as well. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, I've never heard of that Nabe type. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, if you know an obscure food dish, that's... Right. Because there's so many. Yeah. So once I tried this, I tried Yanagawa Nabe. I tried Aborosovo for the first time.

Oh, it was so fucking good. Which one did you go to, though? It was the one in Ikebukuro. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. My favorite Abu Dosovo place is, it's in Asaksa. Okay, okay. It's like on the outskirts of Asoxa,

but it's so good. I'll have to hit you up for specific restaurant recommendations. When you said the business man's for perfect English, I've had the opposite, yeah, awkward interaction where I was speaking to a person who, in Japan, who looks Japanese, you go, I don't speak Japanese. I'm like, perfect English.

I'm like, is this, is I just racially profiled? But I mean, I'm in Japan, so like, I see an Asian person, I should speak Japanese, right? Like I was like, just give me this one man. Yeah, yeah. Like I was like, I felt bad that I was like, that I just like hurt this guy's feelings as well, that he does he feel bad that now he can't speak Japanese?

Or like, oh, am I the asshole? Like I don't know what to do here. Like, I mean, I mean. Can I win in this situation? You can't, yeah. Do I speak English, I'm an asshole, right? So he goes like. See what I'm saying?

Yeah, yeah. It's an unreasonable assumption, yeah. Right. I'm sure, I'm sure he probably gets that a lot. Yeah, probably, probably. know if he's working in Japan, unfortunately. But yeah, yeah, so you've been there for two weeks almost, most of the time in Tokyo, or have you, like, gone around? Mostly in Tokyo and then just Osaka for like three, three days. Okay, okay. So I'm guessing you've already done, like, in previous

trips, like the big fucking tourist spots and you're just like chilling out now every time you come back to Japan. I'll still hit up tourist spots because I'm just a fucking degenerate weed. So, like, I know Akiba is overrated. Yeah. I only go, there's only two spots in Akiba I go to. Yeah. Like I've gone enough times where I know it's this figure shop and this figure shop. Yeah, yeah. So that's kind of nice when you go, I've been at many times.

It's not like, oh, wow. And then you just kind of go around. You're like, all right, I'm here. I'm going to go this one, this one. Check what they got. I got a bunch of good shit. All right, let's go. I mean, it's changed so much because everything's kind of moving online now

where the figure stores aren't really the deals that they used to be. Yeah, a lot of the figures are closed down now in Aruba. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's just like, oh, no one comes in physically to buy these anymore. Because if you know how to type of the figure in Japanese,

you can find any figure. Oh, yeah. Mandrake has, like, everything. Oh, dude, you got to, you go to Merikadi. Yeah, America, too. It's like, half the price and the quality is just... Yeah, because people are, like, you know, as well, like now, most of the stores in Acuba

that are on, like, especially if they're near the main street that sell, like, old retro video games, like, if they sell, like, Nintendo 64, S&S's, like, a lot of the times, they are marked up quite heavily. Yeah. Even though they seem cheap to, if you're from America or the UK, because you're like, this, you would never be able to get Nintendo 64 in box.

full stop. Yeah. Yeah. But on the Meadow you can get it for like or Yahoo auction you have like 10 bucks like 20 bucks.

I don't quote me exactly on the price but around it. It's very very cheap online. I have some friends who are into retro games who are with me on this trip and yeah they were saying

the markups are pretty bad like super potato. The super potato is like insane markus. Well because it's like the easiest to find store in Acuba and they know it. And it is like the retro game

stores. Yeah. I still think it's cool to go to and show people like just you know two floors of all retro stuff. Like I think that's it's video.

Usually cool, but a lot of the times, if you really want something, just, you know, look online. It's the sad truth of shopping in 2024, 2085, right? Just look online when you found out. But you know, there is a nice feeling, just go into an area and just like not knowing. Look, if it's like 200 yen difference,

I'll buy it in the store. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I mean? But like, if it's like, dude, they've marked it up three times, man. I just, and I also don't want them to like, make money off this, because I think this is a bad practice. Like I don't wanna buy.

And then now they're all doing what they do in GameStop, where everything is slowly becoming plushies anyway in a lot of these games stores. They're like, what do you mean? Don't you want a Mario plush? Like, no, I want a fucking game keep control that's orange.

Yeah. And then I'll hit up like Nakano Broadway and stuff. Oh, yeah. That's a really good spot. Yeah. I got a really good, any of you watch, Hajima Lippo? Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. They had, this guy, this old man had a, there's a Takamura figure. Oh. And it was on sale and it was, and I don't like anyone ever asked to find this figure. Yeah.

Because there was another figure. I was like, oh, how much is that? He's like, oh, I forget exactly how much. But here's one that's half the price on sale. And it was a giant fucking figure of him too. That was one of my good finds this time. Hell yeah. Yeah.

I personally, I think you can find cooler stuff and knock on Broadway. Yes. Because it's, you know, Akiber sometimes very much on like the mainstream or the wifu kind of like side of thing. And any store that's like you go there, it's a wall of, you know,

Demon Slayer, One Piece. like, nope, no. I've always said not gonna Broadway's like the hip star cap. I mean, it is, it is. The best ones are the ones for just fucking full of, it's just glass cases of random shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's just like a yard sale at that point, right? Yeah, yeah. Cause isn't it like, they're like individual boxes? Yeah, that you run out of the box. Yeah, it's just like, oh shit, there's like a little figure I never see from a show, you know, yeah, that's what I'm looking for. And it's like, sometimes you see a figure and you're like,

wait, they made a figure from this show? Exactly. This show that nobody watched but me? Yeah. Oh, I mean, this is one of my favorite figures that we have. That's a good one. Yeah, that's a good. That's a weapon.

Yeah, and the, what was the other one that we found? It was really cool. We found a lot of really cool. I mean, we sold. I have that Legoshi. That's a good one. Yeah. Oh, fuck.

Are all three of you figure guys? This one was six. Not so much anymore. Not so much anymore. I'm just run out of space. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I think I'm just getting older. Yeah. I'm appreciating figures less and less. I think I still like the really big ones, I think are really cool, and especially the craftsmanship that goes into making them is really impressive, but something like, you know like there's $20 ones you get

from the crane game? I'm kind of a different towards those now. I definitely get very picky. Yeah, yeah. I still buy figures, but for me it's more, it's not necessarily like the price matters. It's the what it's from. Yeah. Well, imagine if you've voiced a character as well,

you're more like that. Do you collect every character you voice? 100%. I specifically search for stuff that like if so actually this trip I found some really good ranking of Kings ones so like there's just like three of them there it's like fuck yeah instant buy or whatever whenever I voice a new Pokemon I'm always like give me the Pokemon card so um no yeah I just gonna make your own case where he's like this is this is this is me this is all me oh I already have a section of my show it's all the it's like uh necobamushi from one piece and stuff like

Yeah, yeah, so. They made Senshi stuff yet? Is that? Oh, yeah. I got that nenderoid coming. And I don't even usually buy nenderoids, but I'm gonna buy the sensi nenderoids. You went to the cafe as well, right?

Yeah, and in Osaka. Was it delicious in all soccer? Was it good? Which cafe? They had a delicious dungeon like the lab. Yeah. You know, I went to two different ones. I went to one in Joypolis.

Okay. Wow. They have one in JoyPolis? What was it Sonic? No, it was delicious in Dungeon. And did that in Joypless? I thought Jopolis was Sega. Are that crazy?

It is, but they had one there. Oh, okay, wow. The food was, mm. The food is never good in these cafes. So with that in mind, I thought the food at the cafe in Osaka was like, the drinks were good. I liked the drinks.

Yeah. Yeah, I've been- It's kind of hard to fuck up a drink. Yeah. Yeah, because they just put like, I hate it when they put jelly in it. Stop putting jelly in it. jelly in these fucking drinks.

I don't know, I can fuck with jelly. No, jelly's fucking old. I don't wanna drink. He's a jelly hate. I'm a jelly hate. He hates jelly. And also, I think we need to boil, we need to talk about food, food hot takes.

What are your food hot takes? You don't like jelly and drinks. They don't like jelly. They're not like food hot tacks. You don't have oranges? I think orange flavor things. A fan of scurvy, are you? I eat limes.

How about any, any hot? food takes? I have none. None. You have none. He has the most. I don't know if you heard this because this is a famous one. He doesn't eat condiments. I don't like ketchup, mayo, mustard. Anything that's like gloopy.

So like if you get a hot dog. I've raw dog that shit. You raw dog a hot dog. That's crazy. That's diabolical. Just give me the hot dog. You know what's the most diabolical? When he goes to McDonald's, he orders nuggets with no sauce. Yes.

Do you get to order a burger with no, it's just patty and cheese? Um, normally, from in McDonald's, you normally have the sauce in it, but if I get a burger, normally I just, yeah, patty and cheese, that's all I need. Sometimes I do bacon on that. You could just said yes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're like, well, there's more to it. Yeah, really the lettuce is a sauce of the grass. Yes, yes, yes. Um, I, I will do that if the place has a really good patties. Yeah, I will act. Yeah. Listen, you ever have a smashed burger,

like a smashed burger where they like, yeah, of course, of course. Smash and like make a crispy griddle. Yeah. I will do it if I want to taste the patty. Well, yeah. Because ketchup and stuff can overpower it. But normally you don't want,

I guess the idea would be that there wouldn't be that much source on it. Where, you know, because especially smash burger, the edges normally, you know, when it's sticking out of the patty. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Normally that's like the, you can have a little trial of the unsourced

because the source should just be in the middle. I'm not talking about smash burger. the chain. I'm talking about like that style. Yeah, yeah, I guess it's the same thing. But like, yeah. I guess for me, for burgers, I think that mayonnaise or like ketchup is really good to kind of combating a lot of the heavy fatty flavors.

You know, because tomato sauce or ketchup is kind of vinegory a little bit. Yeah, no, I don't, I'm not opposed to ketchup funds. Like I usually will have. I feel like it's necessary is what I'm saying. I just preferred like if I'm having a burger. If it's a good burger, it's, I have no problem. Is there like an ick factor?

Do you think condiments are kind of gross? Oh. Some people have that like a sensory, like they don't like the goopiness. Yeah, specifically, specifically, like I said, ketchup, mayo, mustard. You know, normally the big three that I just. Ranch?

I just, not ranch either. I used to not like ketchup as a kid. Which is ironic because most kids love ketchup. Yeah, I hated ketchup as a kid and I grew up and I still never got over ketchup. Mayo, I've turned my opinion around specifically because of Kui-Mayo, which I think fucking fantastic. I still don't like the, you know,

not keeping mayo. Yeah. Um, ketchup, I don't know, because it's weird because I've really loved tomato sauce, right? I love, I love tomatoes, but it's a bit, the smell, the vinegary, the vinegree, like, taste. It's, right. Wait, you must have a hot food take.

No, all my takes are right. No, you must have something, you know, maybe this is not the public opinion. Mm-hmm. There must be something that you feel like is, you're like, you feel like you're in the minority. You can throw some out and we'll judge if it's hot or not. Trust me, we've had, we've had a lot.

Do you think if there's something that's like really egregious? Do you have one while I think? I kind of fuck with everything. The thing, I'm very not picky. Like I will eat pretty much anything. Like I have no, nothing. You know, it's like that I think this isn't like a controversial opinion, but like in and out fries are terrible.

Yeah, they are terrible. Yeah, that's not controversial. That's why you have to bury them in all the sauce and cheese to make sense. Yeah, exactly. That's where I saw saves the day. What do you think is the best fast food chain in America? Ooh. For burgers?

Just in general? Yeah. My favorite is steak and shake. Oh, shit. I've never had a steak and shake before. Yeah, I have. It's so wrong. It's so wrong.

What the fuck are you talking about? It's mid. What is your favorite? He said that we're so conviction. What's your favorite? Let's hear it. If I had to say, yeah.

Okay, wait, do you count five. Or is that fast casual? Yeah, I was gonna say five guys. Yeah, I was gonna say five guys. Like I'm trying to understand like the level where we're counting. What's your answer besides five guys? Either Shake Shack or Wendy's.

Okay, both are good. Oh, thank God. Okay. I like Wendy's, but I, man, just the burger in and out, not the fries, just the burger. But then again, I feel like that's unfair. Well, no. Can you rate a place just of one item?

I guess it's a thing. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I genuinely like the burgers, and now I know the main, the main draw is the value. You get a great burger for a very reasonable price.

Yeah. But I genuinely really like the burger. All right, the burger is good. The fries are the worst, but the burger is pretty damn good. Why can they not just make the fries good? Because they're relying too much on the burgers.

I just feel like they should, yeah. I just feel like why have they not got this right? Like they've had so many years to just make them good and then there would be no contention. I feel like they're just iconic at this point where they're like, yeah, some people like, You can't win with anything.

We like, the people love cardboard. Yeah, they'd love it. Yeah. What's your favorite? Are we carrying like subs in fast food? Well, I guess you kid. Well, you like Jimmy Johns? Yeah, I fucking love Jimmy Jones, man.

I, I, I, when I'm in Wisconsin, I order like a Jimmy Jones every day. Okay. I don't get. It's circumstantial for me, I think. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I mean, that's what I can as fast food. Something about, like.

If not, if something a bit more mainstream. There's something about Subway and Jimmy John bread that I'm not a fan off. Chipotle, I love Chipotle. Chipotle is good. Yeah, yeah. Although I feel like now, I feel like you, every time I've gone, because when I first went

in the 2017, it was like the mind-blowing experience. I was like, oh my God, this is so good. And I remember, I went with you. Did we go to Chipotle? We went to Chipotle together in San Francisco. Oh, you're right, yeah, yeah, the crunchy roll. Because I think we're all standing around, like, what are you gonna eat?

And I was like, I don't get to eat Chipotle. Can I go to go to Chipotle? You're like, oh, okay. And then like, six people came with us. And then I think I was like losing my mind. But now you go and I feel like, I have to like beg to get like a crumb of meat. And like actually, no, I wanted, I wanted chicken,

not one chicken. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Chicken plural. Yeah, I was like, I was hoping for a scoop, actually. No, yeah, don't worry about it. Actually, it's fine. I'll tip, so I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah.

No, Chipotle and solid. Yeah, I think no one said any choices that have made me want to attack. So I think, why I don't like ShakeShack that much? Is one, I think the price is way too high. I didn't pick Shake Shake. Oh, steak and, oh, steak and shit. Oh, my God, I thought the whole time I thought,

I think it's. No, steak and shake. No, you said steak and shake. I like steak, shake. I like steak and shake. I remember being in Indianapolis for an anime convention. Okay, yeah.

At like 3 a.m. Yeah, and going into that steak, I don't know if you've been, you've been to a Con in Indiana. Ah, I must have, yeah, probably, yeah. It's like that one steak and shake on the corner of like the one of the main streets know of the convention center.

Yeah. And I went there at 3 a.m and it felt like PVP was turned on. Yeah. It was like the staff were shouting and arguing with everyone. Holy shit, that's the one time up in the stage and shake. as well. And I remember I asked her, and I had this really awkward, it must have been the most British thing that she'd ever heard. She brought out the burgers. I said, oh, no, I think you

spill oil on top of my burger. And I asked her to take it back. And then she was like, honey, that's, that ain't an accident. I was like, that's a plus a. I was like, but this one's dry and all of the other ones have oil on them. Can I just have this one? And then they, they looked at me scorningly. And they deported you. And then they brought out the burger again and there was oral on top and I was too afraid to say anything again

because I could feel the aura of hatred. But how was it? The one without oil was great. Okay. I didn't like when they douse it in oil. I was like it's already oily enough. Okay, okay. So you are not, you thought I said shake.

Yeah, I think it said shake shack. Oh, okay. So steak and shake I actually quite like, but I remember the price was very good, but I haven't been in like five years. Yeah, the price is good. And it's just a simple. I like the smash patties.

You've read Culvers. I've not Colvers. Yeah. Well, you're from Michigan, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would say out of, when we did our tour, out of all like the local burger chains, I'm a Culver's Simp.

Culver's is great. Culver is kind of in the same neighborhood as steak in terms of the presentation, like smash patties. Right, right. And then they have cheese curds, which are great. Yeah, fuck. Yeah, yeah.

Culver's fucking lips. He's hard for cheese. Yeah. Yeah. What is a food that everyone likes that you're not a fan of? Oh. You know, I'm not,

how familiar are you all with Korean food? Quite familiar. Yeah. I think the most overrated Korean food is bulgogi. I think it's good. But when carb is sitting right there, the short ribs,

that's what I want. Like bulgogi is a good, like, introductory, you know, like, yeah, it's good. It's simple. and people like it, but they're, I know. I think the strength of bulgogi is that it can just be a really cheap piece of meat.

You can just kind of like shave it onto a dish. Yeah, essentially and make it kind of a bit more flavorful. Yeah. Whereas if you had a, for the short rib, I feel like if it's a really cheap cut. It's definitely pricier. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I would never say no to a bulgogi.

Of course, yeah, yeah. I'll definitely eat it, but yeah. It's never my first choice at a, like, a Korean restaurant. Right, right, right. I love Bibbba. Bebinba, that's my favorite. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's actually stones.

Dahl? Yeah, doll. It's got about. It's gotta be dull. So I want Korean food now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm getting home. I realize I haven't had a Korean food in Japan. I mean, I think so. Okay. I'm a white British man, so what do I know?

That's true. I mean, you'd hope so since they're right next to each other. Yeah. And also there's like a massive Korean population in Japan. And this is the entire Irish Nukubo, which is basically just mini career. Okay. What's your favorite Korean dish?

I'll be it and bat for me for sure. Up, okay. Not even close. I'll always order it. Yeah, I'm kind of, yeah, boring answer, but I think Bebbingbub as well. Okay, it's hard to beat. It's like the perfect synergy of flavors.

It really is. I don't know. You like Bip Bip? I do love-do you. Do you not use Gochu-jong? Hmm? Oh. So you use Giorgio.

I use Gautchujan. Okay, so that's not off the table then. I was like, if you hate Bibbub without the Gochu-jong. No, no. I'd be like, you're a psycho-bi-bub- I need the gotcha junk. Okay, okay.

Like anything with got to junk, I'm like, the shit fire. Okay. This is not gloopy. It's not gloopy. It's more of a paste. And most importantly, it's like, it's spicy. And I like- It's spicy and also it ties the dish together.

Yeah. What's the, what's the, I forget what it's called? Where it's like a big plate and then it's rice and they just put like a bunch of shit. Yeah, I was trying to remember the name for that where- What is called? It's like a bunch of. It's just a hot plate and they just put a ton of rice and meat.

And then like you just kind of shovel it into a They've got a bunch of chains of that here as well. Like, I know what you're talking about. It's fried rice, right? It's fried rice and you just, you kind of treat it like barbecue. You literally just shove everything on this hot plate and then it's so good. Okay. God, when did we go to,

when did we go to Korea corner? Oh, well, I went with a Korean person here as well and they were like, let me do everything. I was like, all right. And it was the best fucking thing I ever eat. Say no more, say no more. And they were grilling kimchi on it. I love grilled kimchi.

Oh, just kimchi just goaded. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, there's no hot text by Korean food because Korean food fucking slaps. Yes. Do you all the favorite cuisine? Like, for me it's Korean food.

I'm biased, but I love it. Oh, I'm biased, so I'm gonna say Thai as well. Okay, yeah. Italian for you. You're Japanese, right, Joe? I mean, I'm not biased. If it's what you grew up. Yeah, I'd say, I'll say Japanese, yeah.

But best cuisine, not from your home country. You don't have to worry because no one's, no one's standing like, British. What you mean being so toast isn't your favorite? Yeah. If it's not from my background, I probably have to say Italian. For me, the thing is, so many good Asian cuisines. Japanese, Chinese, Thai.

But Italian is so good. I do love Italian food. It's great. Everyone loves Italian food. I love Indian food. I didn't even second food as well, yeah. I think mine, oh, shit, maybe it's. If we're going like a little bit kind of like off the beaten pot,

I also really fucking love Vietnamese food as well. Yeah, Vietnamese food is great. Banger. Mine might be Japanese in second. Yeah. Just because I think there's parallels and stuff. And then like Koreans love just like pickles and shit. And, you know, Japanese people love pickles.

I fucking love pickles. Yeah. So good. Yeah, for me, maybe Italian, if I'm going to European cuisine. British food in it? British. British. Okay, I do think British food is the most over-clowned on foods.

in the world. I don't think it's as bad as everything. You don't think it deserves the hate? I don't. I think, okay, okay, look. Which cuisine is the worst cuisine then? German. Yeah, bro, Germans get away with it, bro.

Germans get away with it, bro. German is like almost the exact same as British cuisine, but nobody counts on them. Just such a breakfast, I love German food. Yeah. But all they got is potatoes, sauerkraut and like cuts of meat. And just, that's it. Yeah, that's it.

Joey's like, Joey's like calling up his ancestor. It's like, as it has a quarter German, I'm offended. But I also don't disagree. Yeah, they, they, we are bringing you down with us. The problem is, is that British people are too vocal on TikTok about showing off their fucking God-awful homemade food. Oh, yeah. And so it's like, you know, you'll have like Cheryl from North Hampton to go,

this is what I'm eating for dinner and then it's just all brown and chips. And you're like, what the fuck is this? What's the best British dish? You're like, all right, I'm gonna defend my, my country's honor. Okay, for like a personal one or if I wanted to convince you that like it's not that bad. Why don't give you both?

I mean, my favorite, which I know would not convince anyone is bangers and mash. It's just so basic. Hey, I can fuck with bangers and mash. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah. That's fine. Okay.

I wanted to convince you, yeah. A good. Sunday roast is cute. Sunday roast. So what exactly does a Sunday roast into? Um, I mean, roast beef, right? Yeah, yeah. It could be roast beef, roast chicken,

roast pork. Roast chicken's probably the most popular. Roast chicken is the most popular. And you have like broccoli or some veg. Yeah, and then you have stuffing along with that as well and Yorkshire pudding, which just like ties everything together. Yorkshire, yeah, those are good. I like a full, what is the,

full English breakfast or whatever? Oh, yeah, I can't fuck about that. Yeah, I had that three days in a row in London and by the third day I thought I was gonna have a heart attack. Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, okay. I'm trying to think, I really like shepherd's pie. You convinced me with, what was it, the cheese and onion pasty?

Pasti was fine. Pasti was fine. Pasti was fine. Pasti's always. They were like made out of necessity for minors to have a snack while they're working. It doesn't spoil easily. That's half of British food.

Oh yes, botulism won't effect this until the third solace. You know, you're like, oh, well, that's kidding it. I mean, I always have to Google to remind myself what the British dishes are, because I feel like a lot of the stuff that you make at home is the lowest and quickest easiest things.

Like a sausage sandwich as well, maybe? I mean, that's badly British. Sausage sandwich sandwich? What have you guys called? Sausage sannie. It's like a chip, Buddy or if you got you're gonna fucking. Oh, it's not Bunnings.

Oh, Scotch eggs. Scotch eggs. I mean, I do think that probably shepherds or cottage pies is one of my favorites. Chicken tea. Beef Wellington is fire. Beef walt in the hole. Oh, toad in the hole.

That's the egg, right? Egg and the toast or something? No. No, no, no. Toad in a hole is when you have like a bunch of sausages. M sausages. I like it. You guys.

I love sausages so much. I will fight. They're great. Todenol is great because you just, it's just a sausage. So sausages in a Yorkshire pudding battle. Yes. Easily the worst thing about Asia

is just the lack of appreciation for sausages. There was just no fucking good sausages anywhere. I was, because I was saying the biggest thing that British dishes don't have going for it is that they just have never figured out presentation. Oh, yeah. It's like this is a fucking travesty. And like, I'll eat that.

And like bangers and mash, like click on it. Like it doesn't, like, it's not the most, like, cleanest looking thing, but it's fucking phenomenal. It's such a good combination. That's one of my pet peeves though is when people go, oh, it looks gross. It tastes it. Yeah, eat it.

Because this is like, and the problem is we have too much mush in our food. A lot of British food is mushy. Like cottage pie, which is one of my personal favorites. It just like looks like worst lasagna. Yeah. But that one's also not a, bro. I mean, this one doesn't like it.

You know, I know British food gets a lot of hate, but I like British food. Like, it's just a bunch of fried shit and sausages and gravy and shit. It's a lot of sausage. It's so good. It's goth. Yeah.

Like I said, if we just got like better naming conventions and better presentation, I don't think it would be clowned on as much. Yeah, because like, spotted dick, toad in the hall, eaten mess. They fucking took chips and gravy, called it Poutine and suddenly it's like, oh, it's a national dish.

I'm like, what the fuck? Yeah, we had that before them. Yeah, we had it before you guys. People love it as well. People are like, yo, I had Poutine, Canada was lit. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, what the fuck? We had that in England.

And we caught it just, chips and gravy and that just sounds a lot less, a lot less appealing. I love sticky toffee pudding. I know if you've had that. Ooh, I love sticky to to pudding. It's my favorite dessert of all time, and I hate that I can never get it outside of UK.

Well, maybe in America, you can maybe get it. You can get in America, yeah. But I never, at least whenever I go back to the UK, it's, oh, I immediately go to a, no, not that, not that. Not bread and butter pudding. That's like the, that's... Butter. Butter, you see it.

Brin, water pudding. Bring it back. Dude, it's so good. It's like a brownie drizzled with toffee sauce and ice cream. That's always warm. It's so good. Oh, man. Oh, I get it every time.

I get it every time. Not lacking in the brown. It's tasty brown. Sometimes the brown carries. Look, when it's dessert, brown, come on, back off, bro. It's like brown and off white. It's just because people post pictures of their, like, Chinese meals in the UK, like we saw. And it's like, why is there so many chips?

The Chinese chips, the staple. Yeah. I remember I used to go to the local Chinese shop in Wales. Yeah. And just the only thing that they had was like sweet and sour, but I used to go during lunch and I would take like my one pound coin. And they would just make soy sauce sauce noodles. And I guess that's like, I don't even know if that's a thing.

I don't think. Soy sauce noodles. They would just cook noodles and like in soy sauce like yak yaku sober. And that was just it. Oh, yeah. Just British, this is British Chinese. Chinese food. It's a fucking travesty.

I mean, is this so much different than like American Chinese food back in the day? It's American Chinese food's better than this. Okay. I will say I love traditional Chinese food, but I will absolutely fuck with American Chinese food. What the fuck is that? I like America choice.

Yeah, it's a different thing. It's just a different thing. It's like Tex-Mex, you know, like Tex-Mex and Mexican is different, you know. What is that? That's not, like why, it's the fucking truth? No crime lighting as well.

But it's like the murder, the murder victim's last meal. What does it with British people not being able to escape chips? We just, I don't know, man. I don't, yeah. I mean, they're great, but we just need it with everything. I think I was like it's like an, like, I know, like, growing up as well, I feel like there's an unwilling list to not, like,

with every meal to let kids eat chips if they want it. Like my mom would make a huge fucking stink about not giving me chips. Because other kids, I'd be like, but the, oh, my other friends get chips. And they're like, you're not having fucking chips, Connor. Get over it.

But I feel like chips, you know, I feel like a lot of Asian restaurants in England, they have stopped serving chips. It used to be every Asian restaurant need to serve chips in some way, shape or form. But to be fair, like, when I was growing up, the local Chinese place didn't have chips. They had like, you know, the duck spring rolls and shit.

It was like actually the stuff that I like. That's actually like, way more authentic. You're like, can I just have 15 courses of ducks and the duck rolls? There's things where you put them in the, I don't know what it's called. Peking duck? Picking duck.

Yeah, yeah. Like, can you just bring out 15 of those, please? I'll just have 900 of this. Yeah. How much choice for Asian restaurants do you have growing up in Michigan? Well, I was more in Minnesota, but I did grow up in Michigan mainly. I'd say it was like a decent amount, you know, like it, you know, there were Korean. We, you know, lived in kind of like a Korean, a lot of Koreans.

Yeah. We knew a lot of Korean people, so it's a pretty good Korean restaurants. Like I went to school at Michigan State. Right. You know, they're like a K-brike barbecue place. Yeah. You know, places, it was not too bad. Because I remember in England,

I didn't have my first Korean dish until I was 20, I think. Very slow to adopt. Yeah, yeah. In England, Korean cuisine, which wasn't a thing. And then suddenly it just fucking exploded everywhere. I think it was when people realized

that fried chicken was an option. They were like, oh, I love Korean food. Love that. No, it's Korean barbecue first. That really, like, blew up in England. Korean fried chicken is really good, though. Yeah, I think it's best in the world. I would agree.

Yeah, yeah. Just that double fry. Oh, fam. I'll just love the sauces, dude. Yeah. It's perfect texture with the double fry and the sauces as well. There's what the place here that does a garlic, honey, soy sauce sauce. Mm-hmm.

Seasoning and it's heavenly. It's the perfect mix of flavors. I mean, you have to, you have to fight me to get me away from like yon young chicken, man. Like, it's destroy that shit. Yeah. So good. I want fried chicken now. Yeah.

I'm getting cream food off this one. I realize I haven't had in so long. Are there American foods? You guys are like, what the fuck? Jiggin and waffles. Oh, really? I like it. I'm not like blown away by it.

Yeah, I mean, I think it's just because like, I mean, there are a lot of Americans. Like a little bit like overhyped, I think. Yeah, I think that's a problem. And I was like, my body was just really confused. I'm like, I'm having breakfast lunch and dinner at the same time. Yeah. Going from like a full English breakfast to an American one is like,

very difficult. Because I think the American breakfast uses such low quality ingredients generally. Yeah. That it's really hard to want to eat American breakfast. I never, like the fry up ones.

Yeah. Like the scrambled eggs, bacon, pancakes, which is weird that you would have that. Yeah. I'm sweet. Why are you having that? Yeah, I don't like my pancakes

with my breakfast or therapy or anything sweet. Like, you know, the UK gets clad on rightfully so for a lot of things. But like the full English, you know, a lot of the times you have quite good. It's very easy to get really high quality sausages

in the UK and bacon is normally better. I don't really like the American bacon that much. What is it like? You guys, what do you guys? We call it like streaky bacon. What do you, I think you guys call it like Canadian bacon or something? Okay. Whatever the, the ones that you use?

Yeah, the real bacon. Ah, yeah, kind of like, um... It's like way more meat. Yeah, I do love streaky bacon though, I'll say. It's a crisp. Yeah, it is. It is. And the fatiness.

I love it. I like streaky bacon. Yeah. But yeah, my thing with American, like proper American cuisine is that I can have it like once or twice and it's fucking orgasmic and then after like two times, I'm like, I need something else. I cannot.

It's kind of can't eat it all the time. Yeah, yeah. Which is fine when you're in like a major city, like Los Angeles, New York or whatever, but fuck, when I go visit my wife with Wisconsin, I'm just like, please, please give me something other than cheese and meat. Oh my God, I love cheese.

but more than once and I'm on the shitter for like two hours. Give me one vegetable. Yeah, actually give me one vegetable and a decently sized meal. Size down your meals, please. I should remind me of this fucking, this TikTok that went viral online because it was an American tourist in France who was like, it's so hard to find vegetables in Europe.

And everyone was like, what are you talking about? What? You're American. I went to the local butcher and I couldn't find it. Yeah, like, what? I mean, yeah, but I mean, I mean, I feel like Europeans and Americans are constantly battling each other over every minuscule thing always.

But I mean, I like American food, but like you say, because sometimes it can be a lot. I think American food is great because you don't have to think about the calories and then when you're afterwards, you're like, was that really worth 9,000 calories? Yes. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Always. That's the American way. It's spoken like a true American. Yeah. Well, would you say it's the most overrated cuisine? Yeah, I don't think we go on your answer. Oh, yeah, yeah, we didn't. Who overrated?

Overrated. Did you guys say yours? Oh, yeah. I mean, there's one answer that I think. We think we had this question on tour and one answer came up on tour. What was your answer? Hey, what do we say? French.

Oh, yeah, French. French food. I like French food. I like it. It's a problem of dining with French food is often very cumbersome. It's a long process. It's normally small portions. It's very expensive.

It's normally amazing. I think nobody doesn't like it. I think just the process of getting French food is normally the part people don't like. Yeah. It's not like a burger. Also, I think for most people, when they think of French food,

they think of that one traumatizing experience when you're at a restaurant in Paris. Oh my God. And it's just like the worst customer service with the worst people. Yeah, okay. This food could be delicious, but it's so fucking overpriced

and the people of shit. It's just so hard if you, especially if you've gone to Italy or something and everyone's so fucking chill and the food's amazing and they give you so much and it's like the vibe is a complete opposite. Obviously this is just Paris though.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The outside of Paris is a lot. People are way nicer. You know, mine might be German food. Like, I like it. Yeah. It's good, but... Nothing to rave about. Yep. Like, pork knuckle is just not the best part of the pick.

Well, let's just be honest here. I'm sorry Germans, but like, there are better parts of the pick. And what are the way they cook potatoes? I do like it, but it comes with everything. And sourcroutic also comes with everything. Yeah, yeah. I know there are other German stuff too. With that said though, if I had more German food, maybe I'd change my mind.

But I don't know, I'm hard pressed to find one because I generally will fuck with anything. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, me too. Yeah, yeah. Like, even the one we're making, like, yeah, German food's overrated. It's like, I still fucking eat it and I love it.

It's just, I think that they're, yeah. I'm not going to refuse to eat it. No, we got to shift this notion of British food being bad to the Germans. Yeah. Unfortunately, people just love clowning on British people. And I don't think that's going to go away. Well, it probably doesn't help that.

British people clown on British people. That's true. You know, you guys start clowning. It's a peer, like, we mainly fucking eat Indian food. And the one thing that I hate about not being in the UK is that it is so hard to convince the group to eat Indian food. Really? Someone will always be like,

I don't want Indian food. Why? What's their reason? I don't know. They'll be like, it's too heavy. And I'm like, come on, man. It's like Chinese food and Indian food. We eat a chip buddy or whatever. No, no, not in the UK.

It's just outside of the UK. Oh, outside of the UK. In the UK, everyone will want to go for Indian food. Yeah, okay, because it's very popular there. But over, especially in Japan, I feel like is where the food is quite light, especially with Japanese people, they will never wanna get Indian food.

Oh, I see. It's because the taste is too strong. You must know, like, when you're out with a group. There's always like one or two people that are like not Indian food. Yeah, I mean, especially in Japan, they have a lighter palette over here. It's either too heavy or too spicy.

I hear it too spicy a lot. Yeah, yeah. And Chinese food often, when I try to convince people, a lot of people, everyone has to be like ready for it. No one will wanna do Chinese food on a whim, I find. No, I disagree.

Yeah, because like you can go- Only if it's like Shaoombao or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But if you're like going like, in a small dishes or whatever. Or if it's like an all you can eat, that's like dirt cheap. Right, right.

You'll still make, you get your money's worth if you get like four things. Then it's fine, but like, yeah. With Indian, I definitely have that experience. I've been meaning to go to that. There's like, there's one really expensive food buffet in Tokyo.

I think it's like $70 or something. Okay. The buffet, but meaning to go. You should go as well. I would love to go, yeah. I think it's just a bunch of fancy food all like from across the world. Nice. Just to kind of like a take on a Vegas buffet, I think.

It'd be cool to see how you've been to a Vegas buffet. I have. Connor's the only one I think. Uh, you've been, you've been. I've been to so. Oh, actually, yeah. I like Vegas buffets. I mean, I fuck with Vegas buffets, yeah.

I think it is, it is like, yeah, yeah. When you're at a Vegas buffet, there is that part of you that just wants to be that French guy that smokes and goes, these Americans, it's like, it's like the most gluttonous, most American, American way to consume high quality food. It's like. You go to seafood station, King crab legs,

oysters, bone marrow, like just pile it up, being. It is amazing, but it is objectively like just the most gluttonous, like gross display. No, we're definitely like the villains and like a hunger game. Yeah, it is. It's great, it's great.

It's like a 14th century king. And I'm sitting there scratching my head being like, man, I've had, I've had like fresh king crab. I know how much it's supposed to cost. How does the economics of this, how does it make sense? What's going on? As all the people gambling funding this buffet?

Like, what's going on here? Well, it's also a lot of people, I feel like the average buffet go- Doesn't eat that much. Doesn't eat that much, and they also fill up on cheap shit. Like I feel like most people- Yeah, it's like they're eating fucking, you know,

yeah, like you say like that, or rolls or something like, you know, that's some amateur shit. Or you're like, no, you don't waste. Only high quality fish. Just go like the good shit. Every now and then you can indulge in something. You need a carb.

You need a carb or something. But for the most part, and that's, I think, how they make their money. If they were all like me, like a row of someone's, they would be out of fucking business. So you think when you charge the $70, you think you easily crushed the $70 that you paid for?

Oh, yeah. Easy. Yeah. That's fair. That's fair. Well, yeah, because like what? Like a plate of king crab is probably like, you know, at least like 50, 50 bucks.

I mean, I've never been to a Vegas buffet, so the fact that they have King Crabb, oh dude, they got, I'm like, they got everything you can think of. There's something that are like more than $100, I think, right? Like, they're at the 150 range. I think that are like even more.

I think the buffet at the win is like the most expensive one where it's like, yeah, it's like a hundred and something dollars per person. God, I wanna go to that stuff like. But it's an insane amount of food. Yeah. It's like you go, I remember the first time I went,

I saw like the lineup. I was like, oh, that's a lot of food. And I realized, Oh no, that was this and there's this, this, this, this, this. Like, there's, and that wasn't including desserts. Like, they'd have so much. What you think is the entire buffet is just like, one, just the pasta section.

Yeah. I'm just waiting for the world to figure out a good breakfast buffet. I feel like there's just, every hotel you go to, it's just the worst. Well, you don't go to a hotel. I know, I know, but I just wish that was like, I think in the Midwest, there's, I've seen that there's, like, big breakfast buffets.

But I don't know if you'd like it because it's to the American. Right, right, right. Yeah, yeah. A lot of sweet shit. Yeah, I don't really have breakfast anyway, a lot of the times. If I have a breakfast buffet, then I'm like, oh, I'm giving up lunch basically.

Because like, you want to fill up. That's true, that's true. I normally do coffee for breakfast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And if there's one place I never make my money back is definitely the breakfast buffets. Because it's like $30 sometimes. Dude, you have like one or two plates at most.

It's so rare you get a breakfast buffet where you walk out. You're like, wow, that was really like worth it. I feel like. I've been to a one or two that I really liked in Europe. In Europe? It was in Europe. It was because of the sausages, right? No, I went to one that had like

just every single bread in existence, every type of fish that they'd served with like a carpacho style. They had like a raw honeycomb. Like just straight up, you would rip, you would like break up the honeycomb and put it on your bread. Sounds fucking good.

And then you would, that was just the buffet and they had like every kind of, meat like the salami, the pursuit. Cold cuts, yeah. They had like 15 different types of granola. They had a whole alcohol bar, I don't know why. And then, you know, champagne. Let's get lit.

You know, they had literally everything you could possibly want fresh in the morning if you were a European person. And then on top of that, when you sit down, you get a main that you get to order, like something like, not like a, that we would make. So I ordered like the salmon eggs Benedict

that was like, phenomenal. It was like, and then they're like, you know, they have like every kind of juice you'd ever want for every type of hangover. It's like, oh, we have a wine hangover cure. Then this one's the beer hangover cured. That's like you know you're in Europe.

Which one was your main poison? Because Belgium, you're like, I'll have like three beers. And you're like, oh, I've had 19% beers. I'm fucked. That's so good. Have you been around Europe much? No, I've only been to, I think, only Ireland. Oh, shit.

You're sleeping on the European food. I thought was great. I really enjoyed myself. I went there for a convention and had a great time. I would love to do more of Europe, though. Yeah. Like, just go through all. It's like a bucket list European country you want to go to.

Yeah, it's pick one to go to right now. If I have to pick one, probably Italy. That's so good. It's so good. Yeah. But like, I'd love to go, you know, France, you know, UK, you know, Germany. Yeah, I'd love to just go. Wait, you've never been to UK?

No. Fuck. Yeah. That'd be so funny. I would love. That'd be so funny. I just love to watch you be like, What is this slop?

You made this? Take it back. It's another brown place. You think this is food. I love your impression. I can't. I can't do it. Because if I try you, I'll sound like mock apply.

Do it. Do an impression of me right now. Do an impression of me right now. Do an impression of me right now. Do an impression. You're playing the board game wrong. You should kill yourself. I'm going to do my impression of your impression of you.

We just keep going lower. It's turning into a game of voice. Okay, now do an impression of this voice. Tell me why you hate bocci. We're turning into a different... I will cast straight to you if you don't like bocci. It's getting low along. It just turns like soft sonic.

I can't go as low as you. It just gets picked up by submarines. Damn it. And now you do you, I'll do my impression of you and then you do my impression. You do your impression of me. Oh, wait, wait, see. I'm your regular voice.

Okay, so this is my regular voice. This is my regular voice. And this is your impression of me. I think you can go deeper than me. So I don't think it's, I can top you. Really? I think your voice could probably go deeper than mine. No. Really? I don't know.

Well, the real question is which one of you can go higher? Oh, I can't get high at all. Um, what's the highest voice you can do? Oh, hi, my eyes, small, so I'm like I said. Oh, geez, I think so. I guess I, can you go up here? Well, I think I, maybe I can. That's pretty good.

It's hard because like certain times, you know, I'll do, sure you can sympathize with this when you're doing like voice acting and they're like, can we go a little bit higher? You're like, no. We physically cannot go higher. This is my, we are reaching. Can you get much higher?

No, because I remember we did the, we voiced for Hong Kai. Yeah. And I remember at the time, because it was, we'd not gone on it through being talented voice actors. We'd gotten it because we were doing like a YouTube promotion.

Cause a filthy YouTube is that. But you play characters in the game, right? NPCs. Oh yeah, we get killed. So they'd basically just be like, oh, we have three scrap characters. Here you go. Yeah.

Yes, you do this one, you do this one. And then they, you know, I did my voice and they were like, ah, actually he's 21. Oh, okay. I was like, well, I just, well, I mean, I think this is a, not a me issue. This is a, uh, we did, well, anyway, you know. But then I, I eventually got to a high enough place,

but it was like, I was like, yes. Yes, I think so. I was pushing it to the letter. So your character was in their 20s. What did the voice sound like? It's like, oh yes, sir, I really do want to. Like Connor's rendition of Oliver Twitch. Yeah, if I was like, please sir, can I say,

please sir? And I kept getting higher and high, and I was like, can we get a little higher. I was like, no, we can't. But it was good fun there. I appreciate they even let us do anything. Yeah, yeah. How was your acting experience for the first time?

Was it your first time? I've been in a bunch of stuff. It was my first time. It was great. I can only do one voice, that is my voice. Sure. You just don't know how to do other voices you have, but you can do other voice.

So I've, uh. So an acting workshop. You gotta start with, right now. Just start by like impersonating stuff. Well, I voiced like a few side characters on Mashel. Okay, sure. And Alex Lee really fucking, he coached me like really well.

And that's kind of when I realized, oh, directors, they are, they are, they do a lot. Because I'm pretty happy with the performance I did on Masha, which was like just a few lines, but... And that was for the dub. That's for the dub. And I don't think I could have got that without Alex, just be my hype man and just telling me exactly what I need to do.

Um, because I think the hardest part was knowing, you know, having to act, but also having to hit the beats of like the voice flaps as well. There's like so many things to juggle around. Dubbing is, yeah, especially for your first for your first, first time. Yeah, it's tough. It's tough, yeah, for sure. And I was having like five different people,

like just looking at you when you're performing that. That was just a lot of pressure for me. The judging stage. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a fun experience, but I'm not really a voice actor, I think. I think it's fun, but that's, that's a lot of pressure. I'd much rather be on the other side of things,

just the production side of things. Gotcha, gotcha, yeah. I mean, you've, you've been doing more and more as, but your resume's crazy. Yeah, you're, you're, I watched a Blackberry. Oh, what did you think? I loved it.

Were you jump scary when I appeared on? No, no, I knew you were in it. So I was waiting for you to appear and I was like, oh, wow, they, yeah, you, you're just like, all right, I'm going to turn up and be so blonde. Yeah, it was kind of funny. Like, I think I originally. So this is a movie about the Blackberry phones. All right. And it's a phenomenal movie.

It's so good. It's a great movie. Who's the main actor again? I forgot. It's Jay Barrett show. And then Glenn Howardon. Glenn Howard's always sunny. They're the two leads in it.

It's so good. It's a great movie. I do play like a part in it. Well, what's funny is I went in to play that because he just asked me to do it. And I kind of started like, you know,

doing something a little different from me. And he was like, no, no, I want it to be kind of like how you are. So the movie is very much like extremely, even more, just less energy than this. Just like, you know, very serious. You play like a software engineer?

Yeah, yeah. Being poached from Google or something. And like my scene has Michael Ironside like, you know, yelling at me like, you know, you get to work or whatever. And I just like stoically like, you know, whatever. But it was fun. Like, you know, it's, yeah, it got like a crazy, oh, there I am right there.

It got like a crazy good Rotten Tomato score. It's really, really good. And it's a legit, it's really funny too. Yeah, it's very good. Matt Johnson who directed it. I don't know if you guys are familiar with Nirvana, the band The Show. You know what that is?

You ever see, uh, anyway, he's really talented and really funny and he's also, he's in it as well. And, um, it was just a great,

great experience. I watched it on a plane and it was like, start to finish, was very captivated. Yeah. Genuinely a really good film. I highly recommended it. And it was also fun just seeing just the absolute shit show that was Blackberry.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Um, how is it, uh, How was it acting on God of War of Ragnarok? Did you have to like go in and?

Was that just your voice or did you have to do mocap? I didn't know for that. Oh shit, what was that like? If you're allowed to talk about it. Yeah, just. But you were a squirrel, right? Yeah. Yeah.

It was an interesting I had to like mime his motions while watching them separately. Right. Like I was on stage but watching them use a puppet. Oh, okay. Wow. And that was an interesting experience for sure. And then live action is live action mocap are both like I'm very not nervous when it comes to VEO.

Right. Like I have no, no fear. Yeah, yeah. When I go in because I've done it so much. But live action and mocap, I'm definitely nervous for sure. But I think what I do is I just super overly prep. It's like I know my line's cold. Like I know it like back and forth.

Like, you know front to bed. back. Right. And then I've sort of realized, oh, not every actor does that. Right. Sometimes you're like, oh, they just wing it sometimes. Well, it's more so they're like, oh, someone didn't memorize all their lines. And it's like, okay, so if I just memorize my lines well enough where I'm like, all right, I'm good, I'm not going to fuck things up because I just don't want to fuck anything up. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's the biggest difference is, uh, line memorizing is yeah, that does, uh, yeah, seem like the most tedious part. Yeah. I guess if you didn't have too many lines. It's not so bad. But if you had a

really dialogue-heavy thing, I imagine it would be really stressful. In this movie, there is a scene, I don't know if you remember we're in the diner. Yeah, I remember the diner where I have to talk about all these technical terms. That one was a little bit challenging. I had to memorize all these things or whatever. That's true. That's true.

Yeah, you don't have to remember anything in voice ever. Yeah, how long does it take you to typically memorize lines? It depends on the scene. Like, I did anime crimes division. Oh, yeah. real live action. Yeah.

And a lot of dialogue. Yeah. And like my first scene was extreme. It's a huge monologue. I had to go over that over and over and over again in my head before shooting. Yeah. And that was my first time ever doing live action. So that was very scary.

But it doesn't take, I think usually, maybe like depending on the scene, a couple of, you know, like an hour or something. And then you just keep doing it. Right, right. You try to do it so often that becomes almost second nature. Right, right. That's usually, you know, you don't want it to sound like you're reciting something. Yeah.

Yeah. So, yeah, yeah. Yeah, usually on something like this, like Blackberry, you know, the night before I'm running the lines. And then, you know, when you're in your trailer, I'm also just running lines, running lines. Yeah, yeah. Because I'm not a big enough name to be like, I don't fucking care. I'll just walk in and not memorize my lines. Like, you know, I'm like a Malin Brando.

Exactly. Like, I mean, yeah, you know about that. Some actors, like, get fed their lines through here. peace or whatever. For me, I'm like, I just don't want to fuck anything up. I just want to do a good job. So I just am always running it running. Well, I'm sure like actors at this point have done like, you know, 30, 50 movies, just like, ah, whatever. I'll just, I'll just ask for lying on set. But I don't want to be that guy. Yeah, yeah, I want to. Yeah, I want to get to stop. Yeah. And for me, I feel like I'll never be that way. You know, I just, that's the sort of mentality of like, I want to do a good

job. I want to, you know. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So, yeah, it was, it was cool. And I was cool. And I've been lucky that this stuff I have worked on has been like really nice people. Like I did this. I did anime crime's vision and I like I did a very brief like appearance in a sitcom. And that was also fun. So I always enjoyed doing it. Even though it is kind of intimidating. It's fun.

It's a very different type of acting which I enjoy. Would you say you would like to get more into like the whole live, you know, live action acting? a little bit more. Oh yeah, sure. I mean, I still will audition for stuff here and there. It's just a matter if I get cast, right? Right, right, right. Yeah. I think V.O. has been going quite well. Yeah, you've been crushing it. Yeah, but live action, I'm not really like a known entity in that space. Right. But I do really like the energy of being on a set. And a lot of VO these days is very solitary. Yeah. Even cartoons now. you don't record with people very often.

But pre-COVID, you used to do group records and stuff, which was really fun. Post-COVID, I think the only one I've done, I'm on a show called Bat Wheels. And I got to actually record with Tom Kenny, if you know who Tom Kenny is, like SpongeBob. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because he, his character, Mike, he's like the henchman to my villain character. Right. And so that was like one of the very few. That must have been sick.

This is great. One of the very few times post-COVID where I've gotten to work with another actor in the booth. Oh, fuck you. Yeah. So I wish it was, and I hear it's coming back a bit, but the problem is,

well, not a problem, but since a lot of cartoons have a lot of celebrities now in the cast, because they're so busy, you like don't, you can't schedule, like, yeah,

right, right, whatever. Um, so, but, you know, it's,

when I do get the chance to work with other actors face to face. it is so rare but fun. It does add to the dynamic quite a bit. Yeah. Did you have to take any acting classes for like, kind of like live action roles as opposed to like voice acting roles? I've never taken an acting class.

Oh shit. I'm not trying to brag with that. Yeah. Just God gives you talent. No, I mean, my acting practice was my, maybe I talked about this last time, but I made a tumbler back in the day. Yeah.

Did I talk about this? Yeah. And I just drilled. I just was just posting audio stuff all the time. All that shit's practice. Yeah. All of it helps. Yeah.

I mean, I think that's how a lot of people, you know, I guess in our generation of like, yeah, voice actors got into it. It was like just posting shit online. Posting shit online.

Most of the voice actors nowadays that are doing all the anime, are the ones that were just posting shit on YouTube. All the line. Fan dubs, comic dubs. Yeah. All that shit.

Yeah. Especially, especially our generation. Yeah. Like we, a lot of our generation were fans. of the stuff and got into it, you know. I mean, it's weird to see how the industry has changed,

because I remember before there was talk where like, you know, if you wanna get in the industry, you can't do fan dubs because that will be- Well, because I think for a long time, it was like, oh, there were just actors who were in a certain area who weren't doing any live action stuff, they were like, oh, I'll try the voice over.

Yeah, and now just seeing, it changed a lot. It changed a lot. Just seeing the names doing it, a lot of people did seemingly get that start doing this kind of practice, doing this kind of thing. Yeah. Well, I think the backlash against fandoms was people, you know, the company just being protective of the property or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm kind of with you in that these days, practice is practice. Yeah. Like doing, like there's a pretty notable casting director, Sarah Sherman. She does a lot of cartoon casting and directing. And she, I think, tweeted like, yeah, sometimes like people just a production will see.

like a person in a TikTok who's very talented and like, oh, we should get that person to do a voice. Like, yeah, because, and I'm not talking about people who are just getting cast because of virality. I'm talking about people who like, you know, they act in their videos, right? They act in their TikToks. They showcase, they can play these different types of characters. So they're passionate about it. Yeah. And that, that to me is like, yeah, it's not any different than like when people see, like back in the day, people would see stuff at a stand-up show.

Like, oh, that guy's really funny. Yeah. We should cast them in this cartoon or on a stage play. Oh, that person's really good. We should cast them. TikToks and YouTube and stuff, it's just a different form of it. I still think people do look down on it,

which is baffling to me. Yeah. Because I think acting is acting. Like a good actor is a good actor. And I think some of it comes from, some of the old guard might be like fucking YouTubers, YouTubers, YouTubers or whatever. But I think good acting is good acting.

Yeah. I think your work speaks for itself. Yeah. Like if you are a little stiff or not that good, it'll show. But if you show that you're passionate about it and or trying to improve or, you know, you'll, yeah, the work will speak for itself. Yeah. Do you ever get like, you know, look down on like criticism because you are like a YouTuber beforehand?

By, by like fans or by production? Either one. Or both. Yeah. I don't think fans, I don't really get that comment. much. Right. I think because I think, I don't, I think my work speaks for it. Yeah. I don't know if you guys have ever seen or played anything I'm in. Yeah, no, you're, yeah, yeah, we've literally played grambly with you. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. We played as your character. Yeah. Well, I think it's,

I have seen it once or twice where maybe a YouTuber is getting into all the voice over, and then there's a lot of pushback of, like, oh, he's just another YouTube. Yeah. Yeah. Um, For the production side I forget if I talked about this last time I think there's only one time I was recast in something I think you did say about this for the guy But I don't think I said then what it was

And I will continue to not say what it was Yeah, that's fine But that was like one time And also That dub was shooting But you guys will never know What I'm talking about But uh

Yeah, that was like the one time. I think sometimes people have a preconception of like, well, actually, no, I think sometimes people just don't even know I do YouTube. I think they find out after. Because sometimes like they don't know who I am, I go into the booth and then afterwards I'll hear, oh, I didn't know you had like a YouTube channel or whatever. So I would prefer to not be known.

Yeah, I think as well, like your resume in the actual voice acting and now acting world is just like piling up now. So much so that like think that. that's become the foest thing that people see anyway. You've done insanely well. It is something that I think there's definitely a shift. Yeah. I think as my YouTube presence dies,

because it is, I'm definitely like slowly kind of, just through the natural state of things, kind of stepping away from it. Yeah, yeah. But voiceover is still going very strong. Yeah. So I think there is a, you know,

when people come up to me now, like, let's say, oh, I'm a fan or whatever. It is kind of more leaning towards like, oh, I love, like, delicious and dungeon or something. Oh, I love this or that. I mean, there's so obviously plenty of people who still love the YouTube stuff or whatever. But it's usually people like, oh, I watched you like 10 years ago.

I'm like, fuck, 10 years ago. I'm crumbling to dust in front of it. Like, oh, I grew up watching you. I was a kid. I'm like, those are the worst where it's like, I was 11 years old when I started watching you. I'm in college now. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Been on for too long. But I mean, for your YouTube, it always felt like you just did whatever you wanted to do. Yeah. You didn't care about the algorithm too much. Right. And it's still been that way, probably to its detriment,

but. I mean, look, you got something that's working. You don't need a matter. Yeah, yeah. You could always come back to it if you were like, I want to become a YouTuber and do it, make it work, you know. If I wanted to do that, that'll never.

What I'm saying is that like, you have the ability, if you were like, well, just fucking do it. It's an option if you want to take. Basically, my YouTube is just like, if I want to post a video. Yeah, it's probably really treated. Yeah. But I know, like, nowadays, the sort of landscape is really very different and very difficult.

Yes. I can see, like, it's not just me. Like, a lot of people I can see the views are going down and the retention is not there or whatever. It's interesting. Yeah. So I guess I'm thankful that it was never my big priority. Yeah. And that VO, like if VO wasn't going well, then I'd be pretty bummed.

Right. But I think luckily it's been going quite well. So, and that's kind of a knowing main focus. And honestly, it's because I've been doing that I don't really have time to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. You still have to do like a lot of conventions as well. I know a lot of voice actors need to do the convention scene quite a lot.

I like doing them actually. Okay. So for me, it's not an obligation. I do quite a, it's, it's been starting to pick up quite a bit. I think like pre-COVID I was doing maybe 10 to 12 a year. Right. And then now it's starting to like, I think last year it started to really pick up again. So I've got like, yeah, probably like one a month or so.

But I think. Jesus. That sounds intense. It's intense, but I like traveling. Okay. And I like hanging out with, uh, other guests. Yeah,

yeah. And also, this sounds cheesy, but meeting the fans is great. Oh, for sure. Yeah, for sure.

Because when you're not, you know, sometimes, especially in the state of the internet these days, you only focus on the negative comments. Of course, right?

And you're like, God, just, but then you like, when you meet people face to face and you're like, that's very different. Yeah.

It's like, wow, okay, yeah. Oh, yeah, there are real people like me. Well,

it's not even that's just there are, you know, connecting with this stuff. Like, it's not just a wall of, you know, anonymous, just, you know. Yeah. We love some conventions if they were closer, but we just get like a minimum 12-hour flight. Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then it's like a whole different thing. You're like, well, I'd rather just go on vacation if I'm traveling 12 hours. Yeah. If it was like US, it was like, what, like maybe like, what, three, four-hour flights, six tops? Yeah. It's like, okay, at least I can do that in one day and still do stuff that day. Right, right. Not great stuff, but you still do stuff.

Especially if it's like three hour flight, that'd be amazing, because you could leave like Sunday evening and be back. You know, you're in bed Sunday night. That would love that. Yeah, yeah. Time zones can be a little annoying though, but other than that, it's nuts.

I mean, not compare what you guys have to do with. That's why we haven't done many conventions. Yeah. You know, flights are expensive and then- Because it's always a massive commitment for us. Yeah. What do you guys mainly just like anime expo? Yeah, I mean, just anime expo.

Yeah. You know, and it's unfair to be, you know, because obviously conventions, Hopefully, maybe some of them want us. But we're like, hey, look, it's far away. It's expensive, you know, it takes a lot of time. So it's, it doesn't always line up as well. Yeah.

And what's feasible. You know, as, you know, since you have VEO, as, like, YouTubers, like, for me, if I go travel, it always takes me, like, a few days just to, like, readjust back into, like, the time zone, back to my schedule. And that's, like, that was, like, a real kid for me. Tough. So even if the convention is only for, like, a weekend,

like, realistically, it's, like, a week. Yeah, right, yeah. I gotta pee up and holl again for so long. All right, well Connor has got to pee, but thank you very much, Sean Juan, for coming back. I hope this has been a more pleasant experience than last time. Or are we actually wrapping it up?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're at the point in trash days now where if one of us leaves, we just keep going on. It's like whatever. But yeah, thanks for coming on. He'll be back. He'll be back before the screen ends. Do you need to have this done by a certain time?

No, we just... Then hold on. Well, listen. He doesn't watch any anime. Real quick, anime, anime, what do you, anime hot takes? What are you watching? All right, I'm not watching March dog. I'm watching Dundadon, that's about it.

Okay, I've heard good things, yeah. Uh, I think there's my, I don't know, even know if this is a hot take or if I just wanna, I just get, so, stir shit. It just gets over-clowned on. But, uh, I think the newest season of My Hero Academia is pretty fucking good. And I know it's like, what season is this?

Season seven. Okay. I only, I've only seen up to four. Yeah. So a lot of people, People dropped MyHiaaia season four and five because they were, you know. Dude, I watched one.

You watched one? I watched season one and I was like, oh, I'm good. And I think season seven has been like close to peak My Hero Academia back in the day. And I was like, holy shit, not many people are talking about this. Hot take, I think this year is a little bit weaker in terms of like anime compared to previous years.

I think they're- Do you still watch? I watch. I watch a lot. Okay, so you've kind of slowed down. Yeah, I've definitely slowed down. I'm watching like maybe three or four shows a year. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I think right now, previous years, there've been like three or four fucking amazing 10 out 10 shows. What are those? Sorry? What are those? Stuff like Vinland Saga season two. Yeah, it was really good. You read the manga? Yeah, I read the manga for that as well. I mean, last year we also had free run as well. I suppose this year we also had free run, but I count it as a 20, 23. three show, apothecary diaries last year as well. I love apothecary diaries. Which is fucking amazing. Well, I miss.

Huh? Talking about anime. Oh, okay. We'll wrap up soon, but I got to, I just gotta get a little, a little more anime talk to. Yeah, yeah, sure. We did board games. We did food.

We did. Oh, yeah, sure. I can talk about anime for, till the time goes down. I'll just, I'll just do a quick rundown. Did you watch Pluto? Yes, I love Pluto last year as well. It was amazing. It was amazing.

I loved Pluto. I think, some of those. Some of the references felt very dated watching it. Oh yeah. Well, it was also from a manga from 2008. I know, but you feel like it's from 2008 where you're watching it. Like, we should invade Iraq, what?

Yeah, we're doing a Middle Eastern country for what? They have weapons of mass destruction. It was very good though. It was very, very good. This year, I do think Dungeon Mesh year has been one of the standout this year. But in terms of like true, true standouts, I think fall season just starting,

So there's not been too, you know, it remains to be seeing how much Dan to Dan will pop off. And how much, what else is this season as well? If the manga has anything to go off off, then I have high hopes. It's like science sorrow and the manga is fucking amazing right now. So I'm just praying. Yeah. I stick the landing. I think this year has been a lot of good anime, but not as many great anime,

fucking amazing anime. Manga wise, I'm reading through Promised Neverland for the first time. How far are you? Whoa, what is that? How far are you? I'm maybe 40 chapters from the end. Okay. What's your opinion?

I like it. Is there something I should be aware of? I was not a fan of the last few arcs of Promised Neverland manga. Are you talking past the Goldie Pond or whatever? Or you don't like Goldie Pond? Goldie Pond was great. And then past Goldie Pond,

there were, it's, there were a few arcs that I was okay with, but like the closer it got to the ending, the more and more things that bothered me about it until by the end, I was like, fuck, man. Okay, maybe we'll have a discussion later when I finish. Yeah. I'm like, it's not bothering me, but I'm also, did you read it like week to week or like, no, no, no, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, pitched it as well. And so I, I don't know what the week to week was like, but, uh, for like, like without sporting anything.

Just it got to a point where I thought everything just suddenly got to way too clean for the world that he had set up and it just felt more and more shonen-y right up until the end. I see. Yeah. And well, I'll wait for you to finish.

Sure, sure, sure. But that I, yeah. You always reading Akane Banashi? I have read the first volume. Yeah, I've read the first two volumes. Fucking love Akhani. Oh, such, it's such a good manga. I can't wait for the anime.

What is this about? Is there an anime adaptation? I'm going to assume there is for you. I'm going to assume there is because every Shonanjong, I mean, it's very hard on Japan. It's a Shodunin jump, do you know Rakugo? Yeah. Yeah, it's basically Shonen Raku.

Shodun Rakhugo. Oh, yeah. It's great. It's very good. Yeah, yeah. You're watch Shawa Gennarku Raku Raku-Hinju. Hell yeah, dog. That's so good.

How about you, Connor? No, I watched it. No, no, no, no. Do Rakuuranga just pop off. Yeah. Yeah. Kane Banah, she's like, an all-timer. all-timer. It's really fucking good. Yeah, I've heard it's like really popping off now as well.

I saw a Gatsapon machine. I was psyched. I got I pulled a good Akane from it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm just waiting for this to get to an anime adaptation because it's going to. Yeah, it's going to. Is there a lot of Rago fans in Japan? Oh, very much so. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's actually more and more, it's kind of like sumo now where like the younger and younger generations are getting into it. Yeah. And they're kind of like rediscovering it, I guess from like the older generations. Um, yeah. But it's good. I've read one volume and it's, I'm like, yeah, I definitely wanna continue reading this one.

Yeah, this, for manga, this year's been pretty fucking good, I thought. Yeah. Especially because we did a manga awards thing of like all the like the next big manga. And it was like a banger list. There's so many banners. Oh, you see you did a manga, did you do an anime awards too?

No. I feel like the manga, mongas always feel more promising because, you know, there's always so many new ones on the horizon. It's just more exciting. When they kind of get into the- What was in your tops for manga awards? Centuria was up there for.

Centurio was amazing. Yeah, that's a new Sainan manga. It's written by a guy who used to be an assistant to Fujimoto. Oh, okay. So, I mean, like, for some reason, all of Fujimoto's assistants just come out with bangers.

There's like, Don to Don to Don as well. That author's also a Fusciano assistant. Right. Obviously, this became a meme, but... Uh, a Kagrabashi. Kagrabachi is actually, it's actually so good. It's actually really good. What is it?

Kagrabachi. You've definitely seen the meme of it. Yeah, yeah. Show me, she'll just type in Kagabashi, the image should show up. Yeah, Kagrabachi. You've definitely seen this. Oh, that fucking, yeah.

What's the meme? That's just, I guess it was just like generic Shonen was the meme. Yeah, the meme was that they had really, the author had like released. Someone was just telling me about this. Yeah, the author or something had really just a picture of the main character. And people on Twitter or just online were like,

this is the greatest manga to be ever created, before it even came out. Yeah. So much so that the author was like, wow, people online are really looking forward to my life. That warms my heart up. And then when it actually came out and- I hear it's legit good.

It's like legitimately good. Yeah, yeah. He got clowned on a lot when it, because it became a meme and the first few chapters came out and it's like, it starts off like your typical shonen. So everyone was like really meming up being like, Yo, two chapters in already goaded manga of all time. Yeah.

And then it continued. Where it might be. And now it's like, well, like 50 chapters in. And like, hang on, he's cooking. Yeah, and genuinely it is one of the most promising new Shonen Jump titles. Yeah. Okay. For a while.

I'm like so off the Shonen train. I should, because I like, I missed out on demons. I don't, I haven't read or watched Demon Slayer, Jiu Tzu Kaisen. What should I obviously keep up with one but that's the only one I like. Did you see the One Piece fan letter? No, I'm gonna watch it when I get back.

Holy shit, that is a fucking masterpiece. Everyone, don't tell me what it is. Everyone's been like, telling me to watch it. So when I get back home, I'm gonna watch it finally. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's only like a single episode. You should watch it, Joey. It's a complete anime original.

Okay. Oh shit, okay, interesting. Cool. Yeah, the One Piece is the only one I keep up with. But. Yeah, you're watching anything new recently? Gintama, like I mentioned. Oh, you're going to be that on that train for a while.

Right now, it's like I'm watching. You work, right? No. Like, Gintama plus board games twice a week. And you read manga and wampies? You must sleep two hours. There's no way. I do stay up really late.

But, and, uh, how, so for you, in a typical day, how much percent of that is work? Because I imagine you boys are pretty, busy? Quite a lot as well. Yeah, I'd say 70. Because it's like recording stuff like this and filming your own shit. Depends on the day, but it's probably like, even when I went to the toilet, I saw my

phone, there's like 15 messages where they were like, we need an answer on this. I'm like, oh, fuck. Yeah, got to deal with that after this. Yeah, I don't do any of that shit. I do VO and VO is, you know, like sometimes four hours or whatever or something if you have two, you know. I mean, a VO can get busy, like, depending on the day. Yeah.

But my YouTube is just the bare minimum, just low effort, fucking garbage. Like, I don't have a setup. Like, I use my phone to film. Yeah. So it's, I mean, I obviously play a lot of video games, but I streamed that. Yeah. But I like, like, for me, I, it's, I find it weird now when I play games not streaming it. I don't enjoy it as much.

You like the social aspect. Yeah, yeah, I like the social aspect of it. I need a separation. Yeah. There are some stream games. Like like when I watch anime, I need to like separate watching anime for work versus watching the shows I actually wanna watch.

Have you seen Shai Fu? Yes, I've seen a little bit of that. I know you fucking. It's like your all time favorite, right? Yeah, that's your all time favorite. Have you seen it? All of it. Yeah, the real sports anime, right?

Have you seen it? And of course not. Yeah. You should. Yeah, it's great. Yeah, I was maybe considering watching it. Yeah. Five years ago.

Definitely out of this year, I think my biggest recommendation, for you is Girls Band Cry. It's written, I kind of realize it's delving into the screenwriter, so it's an anime original. Unfortunately, it didn't get licensed for a very long time, but it's from the same screenwriter as a place further than the universe. Oh, Juki Hanata? Yeah.

Have you watched Love Live Sunshine? I have not. Dude, same writer. You are not gonna sell me on Love Live Sunshine. Oh, come on. Fuck! Don't bring their stuff here. Love Live Sunshine rips, dog.

Are you kidding? Yeah, I'm telling you. No, you have been affected by the game. I saw you were addicted to that game. You have been killed. I don't even need the game. The anime is even better. Listen.

How did you get into the anime? Not the game, yeah. Love Live Sunshine. Okay, fuck. Love life fans are like, we did it. We found our in. Isn't it Chukyanaada? I'm not sure because they did,

they did, they did, they did, they did, they did, they did, same guy. Okay, okay. Steinsgate, Hebekewifonium, and listen, love live sunshine. Oh my God. And love, it is written by the same guy. Oh my God.

I'm telling you, fucking coward. Shit. Dude, I'm telling you, it's legit. So gone, uh, you're gonna be the sacrificial sheet for trash. Listen, I know you, I know you don't watch anime anymore. I don't watch anything. Wait, I think I've watched one episode of this.

Yeah? I did, did you watch the, did you watch the, Did you watch it out of order or some shit? Listen, No. I watched it and I, I didn't. Give it a shot. Fuck, I do really like his works.

He did the first, he did the first Love Live show, Love Live Sunshine, and Love Love Superstar. Sunshine, you're not doing this to me. It hits, dog. It fucking hits. Hey, look at me in the eyes.

Give it a shot. I think I need to if he wrote it, man. Yeah. I don't think there's a single thing. You don't have to, don't listen to him. I don't think there's a single thing he's written that I don't like, which is the problem. Watch it.

And Girls Man Cry is like one of my favorite this year's. Okay. I'll watch Girls Man Cry. You watch Love Life! He was gonna eventually get Rancher anyway. Don't watch this show. Why? Don't join them. Why? What's wrong with it?

Have you seen it? You've seen one episode? I've seen one episode. What happened in it? I don't remember there was seven girls that I didn't know. I don't even, I'm not even listening to this. You have a bias. I do have a bias. You have a bias.

Yeah. Against this. We do have a bias. I feel like I can serve. Yeah. Well, if we're going there, so on, yes, I do. That's fucked up, man. I don't know.

I just think they should not be dancing and singing. They should be learning useful skills, like sewing and cooking and cleaning the house. For those watching, Love Live Sunshine. It's great. I don't want to hear any more of this. It's a good show. All right. Thank you so much for joining us.

This is a conversation. I feel like I'm gonna look back in this conversation. You're gonna look back five years from now and be like, thank you, son-in-a- this is a canon event. Thank you for introducing me. Yeah, people are gonna look back and like timestamp being like this is the moment like gone turned into an idol thing.

We had him on like, you know the two paths of evil? We have Eldon Ring and then the fucking love life and gone goes, oh, I'll go to love life. All right, well, I'll see you in love life, hell, my life. Oh my God. Thank you so for joining us. Just watch a good at all this patrons. They're on the screen right now.

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