Trash Taste Podcast - We Finally Watched it | Trash Taste #296

Episode Date: February 20, 2026

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Okay, hello and welcome to another episode of Trash Taste. We have another anime club. But before we get to that, hello, I'm your host today. Go on, join me once in a other boys. I forgot to you. I thought like an announcement. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sorry I'm wearing the coat again.

I'm cold. I brought it them again. It's all gotten a lot warmer though. Is it warm enough? Yeah. I mean, shit off of me. Maybe not the T-shirt. Actually, no, it's all right.

Yeah, it's fine. Sorry, sorry. Let you guys start. I don't know. But how you feel, Connor? A nice temperature. I feel good now, yeah. You feel good?

You feel good? I'm ready to talk about anime! Which we are going to be doing because today we are doing anime club. Yep. And maybe we'll have even more anime to discuss other than the two that we have on our list. Okay. But I think we should start off by the highly anticipated topic that our fans and patrons are voted for. Probably the thumbnail.

Yeah. And it's been, I swear to God, every week, every comment. There's been one or two people that have asked, have they watched Chainsaw Man yet? Guys, I got to ask, have you guys watched Chainsaw Man yet? I watched it yesterday. Let's go! We can finally talk about the Chainsaw Man. It's totally been like six months.

Yeah. It's good that you watched it just recently, so you'll remember the most details. Yes, yes. I watched it. Because you guys watched it in cinemas, right? Yes. No. He didn't. You're still in cinemas, though.

Yeah. Is it still a cinema? It is still in some cinemas. With English subtitles. Yeah. I see it as well. But so is the Demon Slam movie. So, you know. That's not going to go out of cinemas until the next one comes out. Yeah, yeah, and then it'll be back in because people will need to press for the next one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I wish I do regret, I will say, I do regret not watching it in cinemas.

Same. Yeah. When I was about 40 minutes in, I was like, okay. I told you, I told you guys. I told you guys. It came out a bad time gone. I was moving and I was traveling. Okay. All right? I don't have an excuse.

It takes two hours, Connor. Two hours. I know. I was lazy. I'm fucked up and I regret it. So, you know, if this happens again and Gant says go watch something in cinemas, do everything in your power to go watch it. Yeah.

Yeah. Noted. So, first off, what did you guys think of it? What did you go? Absolute cinema. Absolute cinema. It was great. It was great.

Yeah. You know I found out the other day? Do you know where the absolute cinema meme comes from? Martin Scorsese. Huh? I don't know why he's doing it, though. I don't know. The Absolute Cinema meme originated on a post about the original Chainsaw Man.

Oh, really? So it's come full circle. Really? Yeah, really. I didn't know that. Around. Chainsawl Man fans started the Absolute Cinema meme. And now, and now we have gone full circle to absolute cinema once again.

Yeah. Which it was to me. Yeah. It was fucking insane. I don't, I've... This whole movie feels like you just keep taking drags of a cigarette, but you don't breathe out. Not even. It feels like every 15 minutes you're doing a line of coat.

That's what it feels like. I'm not going to... I might start this off with maybe... I wouldn't say controversial, well, maybe a slightly hot take. Oh my God. It was okay. Already? Joe said it was okay.

I don't know if it's just me, but especially during, I would say, the second. half of the movie where like the real like full on balls to the walls action happens, you know? Yeah. Yeah. After a while, it got so overwhelming. Like there was so much. Like I, every time it's a scene transition and there would just be, I don't know, something as simple as like a character throwing a punch or jumping or, you know, any like simple movement in the fighting choreography. Uh-huh. I'm like crying for the ganga artist. I'm just like, Oh my God, this is, it's so much. Yeah.

Like the sound is a lot, the movements are a lot. Half the time I'm like- Were you overstimulated, Joey? I was. I was. Like, you'll see it in my reaction. Like, I literally after like, not the end of the fight,

but like, you know, maybe after like the first initial fight between Rezze and Dengi. Yeah. I audibly let out like a, I was just like, God damn. Just like you guys know, normally we record Patreon reactions,

but unfortunately today, me and Garn have both watched the things before we decided to do them. So there's no reaction for us, but Joey's reaction is there. So if you want to go and watch Joey's overwhelmed reactions to any of the shows, say, you'll get to see my four reactions. We talk about Transomann and Pluribus. So those reactions will be available on Patreon.

Yes. Don't watch those. We normally do have reactions or the stuff. This is just one off. Yeah. I know people are mad because they probably want our reactions. Yeah. It's because we just came out from the Christmas holidays.

Yeah. So I apologize. But go to Patreon because we normally have all our reactions. All the media we talk about. So I got to look it out. But I understand what you say. You know what I mean? There were a couple of moments where I was like,

God damn, okay. Yeah. I think because of the pacing in the first 30 minutes is so, all right? Yeah. All right. Yeah. It's like going at a steady pace.

Yeah. And then all of a sudden it's like, here's a shot of adrenaline. And then another one. And another one. Have you seen the TikTok of that girl on the plane who does the panic attack thing? No. No.

What is that? There's this girl. I don't know if it's real. This girl goes, this is like me on the plane having a panic attack. and she films herself while she gets a panic attack. Why? It's like the first 10 minutes,

the first like 10 seconds is TikTok are like really normal. And then she just goes, ah! Ah! And that's what it felt like watching this. Yeah. It felt like the first, the first 30 minutes, like, okay. All right.

Yeah. And then he goes, ah! Legit like that. The dichotomy between the first half and the second half is just like day and night. I thought that was what really worked about it, though. No, no, no.

Don't get me wrong. Like, I loved it. It was fucking amazing. Like, the payoff was wonderful, especially with, like, the full setup. Like, you know, you could see the consequences of the fight and also, like, what the characters were going through to get to that point in the fight.

But just visually and auditorily speaking, it was a lot. Yeah. You know? I mean, there is not a lot, I can say, bad about this movie. Yeah. It was a cinematic experience. It was fucking great.

It's one thing that really stood out to me is that for a shonen adaptation, it really works well for a movie. Oh, you know. Yeah, I think it was a perfect size. Like, I'm really glad that we've been getting these, like, sub two-hour movies that just really stick the landing. Yeah. Don't drag this out. Don't add any unnecessary fluff. Come in here, fucking give a good tug and get out.

Yeah. Like, that's what we got. It was so good that I went with Sydney, who had not seen the original chainsaw man. Oh, wow. And she could still follow enough of like what was going on because the movie was, I think, that well self-contained. Yeah, I had a couple of mates who were in the same position. Yeah. Who just was like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I didn't know half the characters, but it was great. Yeah, she didn't know half the characters, but the characters she needed to know were built up well enough. And you could follow along and pretty much every moment hits. I don't know. it gets me worried in terms of what you said about like how like exhausting it was or how like stimulating it was because I was just like damn have we set the bar too high now that audiences are going to be expecting this constantly because I'm like holy shit you know if this is the bar we are setting now

and if anything less than this is going to be seen as just shit then it's just like well, uh, Mapper. Yo, chill, man, chill. Let your animators break. Have a break. Like, legitimately, I don't think I can recall a single shot or single scene where there wasn't some kind of intricate movement or camera positioning or something, but cinematographly interesting happening. Yeah, but I think that is just a testament to how much they poured into this one project.

Totally. Yeah. Yeah. There's this one moment when they're fighting in the, I just, I remember quite distinctly, they're in like the skyscraper. and it cuts to a shot of Denji's POV with the fucking chain. I love that shot. And I thought, wow, that's a really fun shot and creative.

And then something that can only happen if you really are, like, when they're planning stage of doing it, you're like, they really want to make this fight as visually interesting, but also creative as possible. And all, like you said, all the angles they choose, all the way they choose to show the fight, it is a messy fight. It is a extremely, like, ridiculously large fight. And, you know, we see something kind of similar, and obviously from the same studio Mapper that happens,

kind of a little bit in the Shibby arc with the JJK, the same kind of scope of like the entire city being fucking destroyed. Yeah. And, you know, at times, JJK, there were moments in the Shibri Arc where I get it what it was going for, like the utter level of destruction is kind of confusing to follow as a viewer at times. Because you're like, it's almost lost on me when we're in the psychedelic world of explosions and I don't fully know what's going on.

There's no frames of references. There's no buildings anymore. Yeah. But I think they did such a good job with constantly keeping you in this world and also understanding the level of damage being done. Yes. And it made it like even more devastating watching. Also like Denji being a part of this fight, just absolutely fucking destroying this part of this.

Yeah. Like every time he flies through like 16 skyscrapers, I'm like, you shouldn't survive that. Like it's the fight, I mean, the fight, which is half the movie. Yeah. It's fucking ridiculous. And it's, it could have easily got very tiring, but I think it worked. But there were definitely moments where you're like, man, I, I wish I could have got more time with Rezae almost to really come to appreciate a bit more. But then again, I don't know how much time that it would have come to.

Yeah. How much time I'd need to really be. Because the, okay, that's the only thing that kind of like sucks about this, watching this movie is that from literally zero point one seconds in, you know Reza is like bad. Yeah. Right? Which is fine as a viewer. because we know that Denji is going to be constantly taking advantage of. Yeah.

Because he's one horny motherfucker. You know, he is like, he is, you know, when you are a 15-year-old boy, you have this part of your brain that makes decisions because you're horny and you're dumb. Denji is literally that cranked up. So that is the only emotion. Yeah. So you obviously, you see it. And then obviously they also have the fucking, I remember the metaphor.

You know, they show the shot of the butterfly and the spider. Yeah. And immediately I get it. I'm like, I get it. Yeah. And then they show you eating it. I'm like, okay. Yeah, it's pretty awful.

I think it's like four shots of it. And I'm like, okay, you didn't need to go that hard, but now you're also just trying to tell us what's happening. And that's the only thing that I was like, okay, yeah, I mean, I know Reza's bad. I know Rayze's going to do a bad thing. And that's the only thing that I felt like, all right, whatever.

Like, I know Reza's about to do some fucking shit. Yeah, of course. And it's very, very quick to get into that almost. Yeah, and one thing I actually really respected was, with a lot of anime, They sometimes feel the need to take time to really get to know a character. I came out of Rezay having just watched the Emaslay movie. No, no, not to like, not to say that, you know, one is better or the other or the other,

because it was just like two very, very different approaches to how to tell a character story. Yeah. Right. And I would say that at the end of the, you know, Rezé movie, even without any flashbacks, without me knowing an abundance about Rezé as a character, I still felt, you know, emotionally invested in her story. And I feel like that last moment,

it was part of what drew me in was what you didn't know. You know, it really gravitated you towards the lines that she said because you know a little bit. I mean, we know one thing about her backstory. And that was like one sentence that was said right at the end of the movie that she was like... I've also never been to school. Huh?

That's what she said, right? Yeah, I've also never been to school, which, you know, it implies so much. Yeah. But the only reason, the only information we know about it was from the other agent who was just like, yeah, she was like a Russian, you know, and all that. And I'm like, damn, you are literally spending out her backstory in one sentence right at the end after everything's already over. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I guess because, like, I think also to my detriment, I'd only watch Chancellorman when it was airing. So I do feel like there was some information that I probably would.

would have been able to appreciate better had I just watched Chainsaw Man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, because I'd like kind of forgotten a bit about, you know, the, the main devil that they're chasing and what on. The gun devil. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. And I guess I would have loved to have known, but maybe this will be revealed in future. I don't know. More of why why Rese is, uh, you know, on the, on the side of the gun devil. Um, I mean, I don't think that is spelled out specifically. Yeah. You get to know more about the actual gun devil itself. Yeah. But, but. not so much about resin.

Yeah, and that's not like a slight on the movie at all. And my, like, like, for me as in like, I just, I just want to know these things. Yeah, I would like to know more. But I think that's what makes a compelling character, right? It's that you want to know more. Yeah. Like, why? Like, it's just so insane watching this.

You're like, why would this character do this? That's what I want. The whole thing, I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with that? I also found out the same voice actor who does Shizuka and Tarkopoebe. Oh, is it? Yeah. Oh, okay. And I'm just like, oh, you're good at the psychotic characters.

Yeah. that. Yeah. But yeah, she was really good. Yeah, I also just, this movie, this movie also just made me appreciate as well, just how good of a writer Fujimoto is in terms of like, because there are so many like, you know, some people might see it as like a little bit on the nose, but, you know, say for example, like the parallels between the pool scene and the, the fireworks scene, that kind of show up again during the fight. Like those kinds of very subtle ways of, you know, writing motifs and bringing it back into a pivotal point in the story is like it's pretty hard to do effectively and in a way that's like not too like obvious or on the nose yeah you know but

I think Fijamona did it wonderfully like he did it in just the right subtleness yeah and I think uh you know for how amazing and you know sometimes exhausting the action is because of just how fucking intense it is uh my favorite scene in the movie is actually the pool yeah the pull yeah I was going to Paul was seen as fucking beautiful. Yeah. He, I actually think his real strength is that he, he's really good as an author of making these very human relationships

that feel really stupid on the surface and feel overblown. Like they both of the characters feel so extreme. But really, all he's done is just magnified an aspect of something that people do or a humanity and kind of really honed in on it and shown it through these two characters. And then when you see Denji, like I remember when it was, you know,

when the movie came out, Denji's, you know, some of the critics didn't really, you know, normal movie critics you haven't watched anime. Yeah. Didn't really get Denji. It's like, Denji is just, and as well, Rezae as well, you watch this relationship and you're like, this is a very, a very childish character, but explored so interestingly. And the way they interact and talk and when Denji's having this inner dialogue with, but I like

Machima, why do I want to do this right now? And it's like, it's so rare that we get such interesting aspects of relationships like that explored an anime. Yeah. And he is literally going through that mindset that so many real people go through of like, I like this person, but I like this person. Yeah. And it's like, and it sounds so fucking dumb. Yeah. Because we're watching it like, you're a fucking idiot, Denji.

It's like, yeah, we're fucking idiots. People do that, you know? Like, this is normal. But what we're doing is when you magnify that and show that aspect of Denji's character so prominently. it feels like this guy is so fucking stupid. Yeah, 100%. This is why we all keep making these mistakes. I would say you said earlier that you feel like Denji is like a very, you know, larger than life,

kind of like you take the characteristic and you over-exaggerated. I would argue that Denji actually feels very, very grounded to what a normal teenage boy would feel. Yeah. I would say like... Oh, dude. I mean, I think there's worrying amounts of parallels between Denji and teenage me. Yeah, yeah. Like, like, I...

I'm really... I don't... I don't think he's overblown at all. Like, there's this one moment in it where, uh, they're sitting in the cafe. And Rezae just like fucking taps him. He's just like, and laughs at his joke. And Denji's like, she likes me. Holy shit.

She likes me. No, no, no, no. I know. Yeah. I think I like her too. And I'm like, oh my God. Yeah, this is. Ah, he just liked me for real.

Because like, do you remember when you were a teenage boy? Yeah. And any like female interaction, you're like, She's the one. Yeah, she's the one. She's the one. I think overblown because he always voices it. Ah, okay, okay.

I think, like, the thought, like, he says what he's brutally honest. Denji says what a horny teenager is thinking. Like, the immediate most, like, first thought you have as a teenage boy is what Denji is saying. Yeah. And unfortunately, there's often not more beyond that. But it is interesting when he has these internal struggles and especially the pool scene where almost like an level of acceptance where he's like, well, no, this feels right.

She does like me. Yeah. This is, this is, I think I made the right decision because his only way of, of feeling any kind of connection to someone is having this kind of physical

and emotional reinforcement, because he's never had it. It's like, yeah, of course he's going to think this is the right thing. And he, unfortunately,

he's going to learn this lesson an extremely tough way. Yeah. Will he learn his lesson? Probably not. I mean, he seems like the kind of guy. Oh,

he almost died twice in the movie. I don't think he's going to, but you know, I think the, the tragedy of Denchies that he'll see it as more of a enforcement for macumar. Well, I think it's just, you know,

Denji is in the unfortunate position where... He's been manipulated from every person. Yeah, everyone is manipulating him, and most of those people are using sexuality to manipulate him as well. And that's why when he's, like, kind of so open and kind of boisterous and crazy, it's like, well, this guy's creepy, we'd never deal with it.

It's like, these people have something to game by allowing him to do this and manipulating this, you know? And, like, I would be lying if 15-year-old Gant could not be manipulated Why fucking like imagine, imagine girls. If I was 15 and I went to a pool and a girl that I was slightly interested in took her clothes off her.

No, I wouldn't have to even be interested in. No, no, no, just a girl. Just a random human being. That gave me like attention. I'm just like, bro, bro, I'll be like, yes, I'm in love now. How did you know? I've liked you from the beginning. I'm just like, that's just how like,

men are only one one thing. And it's disgusting. And especially when you hadn't learned about the world and you're just like, neuter everything, bro. It would be so over. And then you add those very real characteristics onto a character like Denji who has clearly gone through very abnormal shit in his life where like he's been stripped of bare necessities that everybody else should, you know, be going through. And then, yeah, obviously it's going to be overexemplified. And I hate glazing Fujimodo, but damn, he's just

good. He's just the guy. Because I feel like a lot of, a lot of stories would be scared to portray Denji in the way that he is portrayed. Because he, you know, there's a lot of things about Denji that aren't likable. There are a lot of things that are likable. There are a lot of aspects where I think Fujimoto is, is confident in his ability to kind of be like, look, this is

Denji. He's a little weird, but heart of gold. I'll show you that it's not, you know, it's the world around him that is, you know, is the problem and he just needed to be pointing the right direction or have some guidance or have someone in this life that didn't take advantage of him. The problem is society.

Society. See, the problem we're talking about chainsaw man, right? Just in general. Yeah. Is that you can never talk like, because we've heard like, as in the anime field, we've heard so many times where it's just like, no, this is like sexy, but there is a deeper meaning to like the sexiness and the boobs and the tits. But in chainsaw man, in chainsaw man, it actually is.

It 100% is. And it is, it is like deeper than that because, you know, it is the, especially in the woman that surrounds, the surrounds, uh, Dengi, their sexuality is being used for a purpose, you know, and he's learning some harsh lesson from it. I assume he's going to be learning some harsh lessons. Because at the moment, he's just following, uh, anyone who even gives him a bit of attention, like the good boy that he is. And I'm very, very excited to see with how. they've set up his character, where his character goes from here, right? Because it feels like he is finding out how harsh the world can be. And we are on that journey with Denji, which is why I think after I finished season one, I was like, I was, change the man was good. I wouldn't say I was a fan, but I, you know, I enjoyed it. But definitely after the Resley movie, I'm like, okay, I am 100% strapped in.

I'm a fan. I'm, I mean, I knew I was going to like it anyway. but this was like the arc that got me like 100% fully invested in everyone. It's not about the gun demons, but the demons in here. I mean, I also really loved the scene with Macchema when they go to the movies. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I really like that.

Because, again, like, there's just weird thing that happens when you're a teenager, and I resonated a lot with it where you're like, you're, obviously you're growing up and this horniness is absolutely there. And that's prominent in your life. You know that. But that moment where he's watching the movie. movies with Ray Zane, he's like, I don't feel anything. And I'm like, I've definitely been there where I've been watching these movies and I feel like I'm, you're taught by so many things

and you see reactions around you where it's so normal to care, but you feel so apathetic for whatever reason. There's, you know, nothing tragedy needs to happen in your life. You'd feel that way. It can just feel like, okay, I don't know what the fuck's going on. I'm in a place that I don't recognize. I don't know anyone around me. I don't understand where I am in my life. and I'm supposed to feel these things when I watch this media and I don't. Yeah. I don't get why I don't feel these things.

And I thought it was really powerful to kind of have Mackima be a part of him doing that. And almost like kind of like, Denji feels like empty from it for very different reasons why I think Macchema feels empty from watching these things. Yeah. And I think it's really fun to put those two together

and allow Denji to kind of come to the conclusion that, oh, we're the same. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, no, no, no. You're the same, Denji. You just don't know it yet. You're not the same at all.

And then also to have that paired with then immediately of the pool scene. And I think it's great because it's like Denji who didn't get immediate gratification from this interaction with Macchima. You know, he's obviously having this emotional buildup that he doesn't realize and strong feelings towards it. But he didn't get that immediate payoff. Yeah. That Macuio is obviously saving for once you when he needs to call on a couple of favors. Yeah. So it's really interesting.

I don't know. I thought it was very fascinating. And like you said, there's, I think we could talk about the first half of the movie so long. I honestly don't have much to say about the second half. It's just pure eye porn. The second half was just, yeah. The second half is the parts where you're like, yeah. And the first half is where you're like, okay.

There's so much going on here. And like you said, I think, yeah, the movie is so much almost more interesting than the first season. And a lot has been said about Denji, I feel like in this movie and the Macumor than throughout the entire first season, I feel like. Yeah. And the thing that I love about the storytelling is that, you know, there are parts where Denji, you know, you hear his internal thoughts and stuff like that. But, you know, going back to the pool scene, it's just you are allowed to just live in the moment. Because I feel like that moment, he wasn't trying to figure stuff out. He was just having such a genuine moment.

Yeah, he was happy. Yeah, he was happy. And instead of telling the audience that, the film allowed the audience to just fucking feel that. You could almost say he was drowning in the moment. Fuck off, Joe. Fuck off. I was saying. And yeah, like the, I feel like some of the aspects of Denji were really expanded on.

Like you talked about the moment where, you know, Denji said he's not feeling stuff. And I thought that really built well on another moment from, I guess, the first season where Huminoh died. And he also started questioning where he was like, why am I not like more? sad. Yeah. I guess I'm like fucked up. Which is normal.

People have happened to me too, man. Yeah. It's like sometimes you don't feel the emotions people tell you to feel in that exact moment. Everyone processes emotions in a different way. And I feel like what makes Denji such a relatable and grounded and realistic character is that he isn't always the reflection of a like typical shown in protagonist. But he is a reflection of maybe the thoughts that you push back.

but you still have to deal with, you know. And I think that's what makes him a great character. Totally. And I feel like, obviously, there wasn't so much focus on anyone else, but him and Rezé this movie. But, you know, I did, one thing that I did enjoy was that as an ensemble, I forgot that Chainsloman is pretty funny. Oh, yeah, it is.

Yeah. I'm saying. Like, there were so many times when, you know, sometimes you watch modern movies and you're like, like, ah, it's the quip. It's the joke. But in Chainselman, the Avengers. Yeah, the Avengers. He's the one line. There's always going to be a guy. He puts a joke out there. Yeah. But in Chainslomand, it almost feels like everyone's just in character. And it's just the comedy doesn't come from like a line. It just comes from the characters being the characters.

Yeah. You know, because it's Fujimoto and everyone's just fucking weird. Yeah. It's not a single sane character in this movie. There is no sane character. And I really, really love some of the banter and some of the chemistry between, like, even when they were fighting, for example. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. What do you guys think about the ending of the film? I liked it.

Mm-hmm. I was like, damn. Obviously, we can't spoil it because, you know, I was like, damn, you're going to let her live? What the fuck, Genji? Yeah. Yeah, I just, there's a new Fujimoto story that just came out.

I'm not sure. I don't know if it's true or not, but I'm going to assume it's true because I read it on the internet. But apparently there's a new Fujimoto quote where he was watching the Resi movie and he got to the end and he's like, man, why can Resee live? Why couldn't she read Denji?

There was a quote retweet being like, man, you wrote the goddamn thing? Why don't you tell me? The story writes itself now. He is but a passenger. He is, he is. Yeah, he like comes out of like a stupor and he's like, I finished it.

I don't remember what I wrote, but he goes. I mean, I think the ending was what it had to be. Yeah. I don't see it any other way. I think, I think, I think, obviously, it's, you know, it makes sense. It makes sense that Denji would be not able to do it, but Macchema certainly would. Yeah.

I think it was that final moment where both Denji and Rezai realized that, you know, maybe, well, you know, obviously in the case with Rezae, she was obviously trying to get close to Denji for ulterior motives, you know, to steal his heart or whatever. But, you know, maybe somewhere along the way it's implied that maybe even for a little bit, she did maybe have feelings because maybe she saw a lot of herself in Dengi, right? I think she did. Yeah. I think she did as well.

I think she did. Yeah. But you know what's great? We can decide that. They didn't tell us that, you know? That's the beauty of open-endedness. We can infer that from her actions and her subtle, you know, it's like anime like this

where I really feel like it's great that we can infer things based on like character animation and character acting, because that's what you normally look for live action films for. Yeah. You know, because you can have the subtle character moments. But I feel like the outside of the action animation,

the animators did such a good job at giving Rezae so much character. It just had little movements and little expressions. Yeah. Her voice acting was phenomenal as well. Yeah. She did such a good fucking job. Yeah. Like it was the perfect level of like...

Cute and insane. Yeah. I mean, it was, yeah, I was on board. Like the part, I remember the part where, you know, they finally kissed during the fireworks scene and she bites it out Denji's tongue. Yeah. I was, like, genuinely terrified at her voice acting.

I was like, this is genuinely scary. Like, holy fuck. Yeah. But, you know, and that's hard to come across in, in fucking anime of all things, you know, because, like, God knows there's been so many attempts that trying to make a scary scene or a scary anime. Yeah.

And it's usually falling flat on its face because the medium can only go so far, right? But that was one of the few moments where I was just like, oh, that's terrifying in every... Actually, one other thing I want to talk about with this movie that I thought was so well done was just like, the music? Yeah, I was gonna bring that up.

The music was, like, some of the choices that they made for some of these scenes and a lot of the transitions of scenes, like, was just really cool choice that really added the tension. Like, again, you know, going back to the, uh, Reze biting, uh, Dengi's tongue

out, you know, it, it was like this really cute and very quaint piano, and then it just like suddenly slowly starts warping into this like almost nightmarish moment, but you can still hear the song. Yeah. So it really, I don't know who did the music on it, but I can tell you because he's my favorite modern composer right now. Sorry, Kevin. Yeah. Damn. But no, I mean, that's like, Kenske, Yoshu is. Oh, it's Uschia Kanske. Yeah. Yusho Kanske is like, he might have overtaken Yoko Kano for me. I'm not sure. What else have they done? They did orb.

They did Devon Man Crybaby. They did Silent Voice. Ping pong, the animation, Dan to Don to Don. I mean, how this is this is goat material. Yeah. You know. It is space dandy as well. Space dandy as well.

I think also the music has gotten so much more stylish. Yeah. Yeah. Like we're getting like music that. Well, it's become more cinematic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, Yoko Kano. fucking goaded for me as well. Yeah, totally. Kenski Ushio, whenever I see his name on a project, I know it is going to bang. Oh, yeah. And I can't always even tell what the, like, music is going to sound like, you know, because in his repertoire,

he has a very, very diverse kind of, like, list of different styles. Yeah, definitely top two composers of all time for me. It's basically between, for me, him and Yoko Kano. And that's, that's like big. Kevin, you get the honorary mention. No. You know, it almost made me wish that like this was like the first part of the story of Chainselman

so that you could be like, please watch this. This is the gateway to this show. You know, like it's such a good, just a fucking fantastic movie. Well, I must say when the maximum of the hormone song came back on at the start of the night, I was just like, yeah. Let's go! We finally get to hear this full fucking song. Yeah. And also we got to give credit the goat, the shark demon.

Oh, yeah. Beam. Beam. Beam the goat. Yeah. Everyone needs a friend like Bean. He showed up for a movie, did his job. There he goes.

Back to the ocean. He was the Deosex Machinae that Denji needed for this movie. Yeah. Bottom line, we all fucking love the movie. Yeah. One thing that's, okay, here's the question I want to ask you guys. After watching Chainsaw Man in the movie and seeing the commercial success that it's had, do you want more Shonen arcs adapted to movie?

movies or do you want to keep it as like TV formats? This was a short enough arc that I think it works really well. Yeah. For movies where most shone and arcs don't. Yeah, I was going to say the same thing. Like the reason why this movie worked was because Reza arc is like, I think it's like two volumes in the manga or something like that. Less than three volumes, definitely. So it's like enough where you can fit the whole thing in without a being overextended or cut out or whatever it is, right?

How many shunas you know that could introduce a character within two volumes, conclude the story, have an epic fight scene, and it's fucking satisfying from start to finish. And you don't feel like disheartened at all. That's why Fuzmode is that happen. Like, I feel like that's quite... I'm sure it's happened in other things, but it's like that feels like a very rare occurrence.

I feel like a lot of shonen of... If they are going to put so much work to make a character like Rezae, they're sticking around. Like, we're getting a mileage out of it. Well, I mean, a bunch of One Piece movies did that, right? Yeah, or they're like a movie-only character and it feels like a movie on the character. You're like, okay, we got the movie character

and they come back in on the fourth arc or whatever. You're like, all right. Hey, buddy. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's getting more and more often now that, you know, before anime movies or anime IP movies were like fully like original filler kind of this.

S-square is like, okay, this is the movie characters. Yeah, yeah. But now we're getting to the point where they are just straight up adapting canon stuff, you know? I am so certain that we will be getting a lot of movies coming after the success of these. this and Demon Slayer. Yeah.

Whether we'll get good things or not, I will have to see. I mean, as an anime fan, more money in the industry, more hopefully more talent being fired, more people getting interested in it, hopefully results in more higher quality and more media. If this is the level of quality, like I said, that they've set the bar to and we can, you know, if I have to wait for this level of quality and it is in a movie, I'm more than happy to.

Totally. Because this was a fucking, But you just can't take this and apply it to most stories, right? I feel like... Yeah, but the problem is some people might, you know?

Honestly, Attack on Titan kind of deserves something like this. Yeah, Attack and Titan did. I'm not gonna lie. Like, right away when I think about it. I'm like, the final season was good, but... I mean, the ending, the ending...

The ending... It made one goes so hard in the theater, man. Yeah. Just imagine watching that ending in the theaters. Like, this, this... Yeah, like, there are certain things that would deserve.

And that's the thing, right? Like, first thing in the mind was, okay, the attack on Titan ending, but the two large episodes, that would have been perfect for something like this. Yeah. And I, you know, I hope that... But nope, instead we got two shitty live actions.

They're attacked on time. But, you know, I'm sure as well, I don't know what the politics, the business side of getting a movie done versus a TV show. Yeah. I have no idea. I mean, you need to know the right people.

I'm sure there are some, a lot more discussions. And I'm sure that it's a lot harder to get movie in the works. Yeah. All I know is that Sony are laughing to the fucking bank right now because, uh, goddamn. Dude, Sony is a fucking powerhouse. I think they're like Japan's fourth or third biggest company. That makes sense. They, they, can you Google with Japan's biggest companies? Toyota's number one by far. It's not even close. I think if Toyota asked the Japanese

government to do something, they do it. Toyota, Honda, Mitsubishi, uh, Anya's got that makes sense. Corporation and Enos. Score down. Sony's one of, uh, nine. Nine. Sorry, I was a bit off. Damn. Just, just only top ten corner.

And, uh, I think Nintendo, I think is the, I don't know if they still are, but last year, they were the most cash rich company. Yeah, they were. But I read that like years ago. That was during the pandemic, right? Uh, yeah. Yeah, they just sell shit and they don't,

they don't really like acquire companies or do weird shit that a lot of big companies do. Because they don't have to. Their IPs are so strong. Yeah, soft bank group. SoftBank is like a giant investment firm, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, Sony's a massive thing.

Oh, yeah. Then I realized everything I fucking have is Sony. I have Sony cameras. I watch Sony anime on my Sony TV. I listen on it with my Sony fucking headphones or my Sony sound system. And then I'll be putting in my Sony bot plug in. My Sony bot plug and then I film my Sony OnlyFans videos on my Sony camera. Everything I do is Sony.

I'm absolutely Sony pilled. So, damn. I'm a Sony boy. You are. I just realized that. I decided what movies I get to watch. Yeah.

You know, like, you know, it's all Sony. But that's the thing, right? I imagine like getting into, getting into theaters in Japan,

it's like, like you, before you even probably make the movie, you probably have to have some kind of, uh, agreement or pitch with these movie companies. That's a whole different thing than doing these,

these animas or Blu-Rays, whatever, you know, that's, I imagine the bar or barrier to even consider getting the movie in theaters is like so different. But then Japan's always been pretty good with anime movies and they have

they've always been every time I go to the cinema I see six anime movies I've never heard of five of them are normally Mecca and I don't Yeah but that's the thing right Is that like you know

Five 10 15 years ago That's all it was You know you'd either have like the The occasional You know you have the occasional like indie anime film or you know A jibli film or whatever And then you'd have your fucking

Buy yearly Here's the 17th detective Conan movie That none of it is canon But you'll love it because it's Detective Conan. There's so many. Well, can you believe that it's only been, like, only like, I was thinking about this, only a decade ago. Um, the idea of watching anime films and theaters outside of Japan was just like this alien fucking thing. Yeah. And your name came out 10 years ago. And that was, that was the film that changed everything. Yeah. International. Yeah. You just only have

have to watch it at like an anime club in your, you know, a convention. Maybe Givli films. and Pokemon films and I was like, yeah. But now it's just like, it's not only it is an expectation that if a big anime film comes out, that it is going to be available worldwide. Yeah. That's so shit. That's crazy.

These fucking people are so dumb and they're like, I don't want anime to get popular. I'm like, I do. I want to watch the shit in the theaters. I want to be able to talk to people who would never watch this stuff. Go to the cinema. It's too late. It already is popular. It's already popular. You don't get to be the opposite. Shut the fuck up. Go and watch anime. It's fucking awesome. I love it when anime gets more popular. I want people to be able to enjoy this amazing media more because it's so good,

it's so talented. And if it's that good that we all love it so much, then yes, I want this to be seen and people to watch it. I want people to go and watch the chance to man. I don't care if you've never watched anime. Go watch it. It's so fucking good. And people will go watch it. Yeah, it's so sick. And people have gone to watch Demon Slayer. And then we get more movies, not just Demon Slayer, some other media that I don't even know I like yet will come out on cinemas and I'll fucking in my mind blown. Yeah. Um, but yeah, honestly, Chainsaw Man fucking amazing

Absolute cinema Absolute cinema Crazy thing is that I don't even know if it's my favorite anime movie of the year Haven't decided yet I can't decide that

But we'll be finding out on the next anime club Because we are going to be watching 100 meters I'm so excited Which is I want to watch that for so long

Which is to me The Contender against Chainsaw Man for anime movie of the year of like last year. I've seen some clips and it looks insane. I've not, I've not touched anything. All I knew is by the same person who made orb and I was like, I'm in.

Yeah. The orb made me, orb was so good last year and it made me think about anime. And like, I'd never seen a show tackle that in anime and it was so beautiful. And I, I just felt we were so lucky. Yeah.

It's been, it's been a year now since Orb came out. Oh, so good. And I've had time to like think about it. I've rewatched. I don't normally rewatch anime. I watched all like three and a half times. What?

Four times. Actually, four times, no. Jesus. Because I keep showing it to other people. And I was just like, damn,

you need to see this. It's like, I'll watch it again. I'll watch it again. And it has just gotten continually like better and better. Yeah. Like I said before, I was just like,

I said it when Orp came out, I was like, I think it's my anime of the decade. It still is my anime of the decade so far. Damn. It's, it's a masterpiece for me. So good.

And I still think, Nando Demo. I still just spam that. Yeah. I love that. And you can definitely tell. I won't support anything about 100 meters, but the only thing I will say is that you can definitely tell it's made by the same guy you made orb.

Okay. Okay. I'm excited. You wouldn't 100% be able to tell. I had friends that hadn't watched any anime were not interested who I managed to convince them to watch Orb that really loved Orb. Yeah. And like really thought the story was beautiful and thought provoking.

Hell yeah. That's the best feelings. An homage to humanity and science and. progression in general. It's about so many things. Because, um, like, that's, that's, it's so fucking layered and so fucking deep in so many different aspects that you can talk about one aspect of orb and someone could gravitate towards a completely different other aspect to work. Um, because like, after rewatching it so many times, I'm like, this, the shit ain't, ain't even about heliocentrism.

It's no. No. That's just the hook. Yeah, that's, that's, that's just the hook. And it's just like, ah, I mean, Yeah, it's such a, not to obviously glaze old for the 1,000 time, but like the, it's such a, a beautiful way of showing, and using heliocensicism, which I think it's a really smart thing to tackle because it feels so dumb just now. Yeah. Yeah. Why would you? Why would you not agree?

Like, what the heck? Yeah. It's like such a universally understood and agreed upon topic, except for I guess, flat earthers. I don't know what the point of day. Where it's like, you know, to show that aspect of humanity where some people are able to understand something beyond their. and to be able to give their life, essentially towards something like that and how to struggle interact with people

who maybe are looking for more instant and more temporary solutions or control or power and how these things all interject. Anyway, it's beautiful. Anyway, we'll talk about it another time, I'm sure. Orb is the fucking beautiful thing.

Go and watch your off if you haven't already. Yeah. And the chains on my movie. And the chains on my movie. Animates of the decades. But that brings us to the next thing that we're going to be talking about. Which is not an anime.

This time. But we have more, actually have more anime we want to talk about since it's been a while since we all sat down in the room and talked. But our next thing

on our anime club is Pluribus. From Mr. Vincent Gilligan. Yeah. Creator of Breaking Bad. So you watched two episodes. I only watched two episodes. You have watched all of it.

I have watched all of it as well. Okay. Yes. And I will say, after watching two episodes, I definitely am going to finish it. Yeah. Because, holy shit.

So do you want to maybe explain then, because you watched it very recently, the rough premise? Sure. Or should Garn, because Garn's good at this. I don't know. I'll let Joe do it since it's more fashion. Oh, this is going to suck. Okay, so explain roughly what happens in episode one. Okay. So it's kind of hooked them.

So I watched this a couple weeks ago, so I'm trying to remember. Oh, okay. Okay. Maybe gone. Maybe gone should, yeah. Basically, Pluribus is a... different kind of take on the alien invasion kind of genre. Yes. Because it's hard to tell whether it's an invasion or not.

So you get introduced to, I don't remember her name, but the most Karen, Karen, you could ever like that has ever. Carol, Carol, Carol, it should have been Karen because I couldn't stop thinking of her as a Karen. Because this is basically the epitome of a Karen, you know. Karen saves the world. Yeah, Karen saves the world. And she is just going about her day, but in the background there has been this signal

that has been received from outer space, from a neighboring star. And somehow, after receiving this signal, it kind of like transforms the mind of certain people who interact with it. And eventually, this kind of like virus or whatever is spread all around the world, basically all at once. Basically, the beginning starts where one person kisses another person

and they just get instantly infected. Then they kiss. It starts with two lab people and one of them gets bitten by a rat. Oh, that's it. That's it. That's it. And then they kiss. And then they kiss.

And then they kiss. I forgot about that. And then eventually it scales up to the point where they are dropping this virus or whatever the fuck this is all around the world. And this is like all episode one. And then Carol is just in a bar with, I'm not sure if it's her girlfriend, her wife, but her partner. And everyone starts tweaking the fuck out. Everyone just like goes into like seizure mode.

She's like, what the fuck? She goes to the hospital. Everyone's still like just out of commission. She's like, is the world coming to an end? And then suddenly everyone just stops, stands up at the same time and just in unison just cleans up. the mess that has been made on earth. Yeah. And so she's freaking out.

Unfortunately, her partner wasn't, didn't wake up. She unfortunately has lost her life. Yeah. Um, so she, Carol freaks out. She goes home and she turns on the TV. And if I remember correctly, it's the president of the United States who addresses her directly on television. Yeah.

And what has happened is this. virus, this mind virus. Yeah. This mind virus. This mind virus has basically merged the consciousness in of all human

beings on earth. Into one connected organism. Into one, yes, into one connected organisms in one hive mind. And that is basically the hook of the first episode. And I thought it was a very, very

strong hook. Very, very strong first episodes. Those first two or three episodes, I'd say, are very, very strong. And then, like, hooking you in. Yeah. And then as the show goes on, it's, you know, it's Vince Gilligan. So if you've watched Better Call Soul. Yeah.

You know, slow burn. But Vince Gilligan does these beautiful shots where he just lets you kind of watch the world and just watch it unfold and just sit there with it and enjoy the patience. But it does suck sometimes to watch it week by week because you're like, nothing happened this episode. It's like, no, no, no. This is this is happening. Let them go.

We're learning about the characters. We're learning more about how this world works. There are subtle information everywhere. You've got to be able to take it in. Yeah. And then the second episode we do we get more information as well. Yes. The, uh, the, uh, the visitors.

The visitors, which is that. And we start to know kind of how the hive mind operates and like what they can do, what they can't do, what threatens them, what helps them. Yeah, I was shocked when I watched second episode first time because I was like, oh, they, they just, they kind of explain everything. Yeah. We almost explained everything right away. which, you know, it's not really that much for spoiler

the first two episodes where the aliens cannot turn these you know seven odd of these survivors over. They, for some reason, their DNA is resistant. Yeah. They're working on finding a way to turn them over. They can't kill anything either. They can't kill any animals. They can't pick any apples

from trees. They can't, they can't harm any living thing in any way. They can eat an apple only if it drops from a tree naturally. Yeah. Yeah. So they do that and they're also willing to do anything that any of the remaining human characters cast. It's like the happy virus. So if they say, hey, we want a plane, get it from me,

they'll bring a plane right away. No questions asked or anything. They will do anything or the people. And it's interesting. I mean, watching the show, it's hard not to feel like it is, at least at the first season, it is just one big AI metaphor.

Because, you know, when you watch these, interactions between Carol and any of the, or someone who says you, these characters, it's just, it's literally a conversation you have with AI, where it'll be like, no, you're so, you are wrong,

but don't worry, that was a great answer. We'll be sure to help you that. Oh, we want this? Oh, one was certainly happy with that. And, um, you know, the invasion, almost to me feels like, not the invasion of like the mind,

but it's like, okay, what is like, you know, this consciousness. It just feels very similar to like AI. I never thought about it like that. That's the way I, in terms of it, like, and because it's, it's so willing to help every single aspect of this. Well, it's not just that they talk like chat chit. They talk like Chbcd, which is the obvious giveaway as well.

Yeah, right. You know, because ChatTBT is just famous for glazing you, no matter, unless you tell it not to. It's like, it will just glaze you. Yeah, yeah. And then I don't know if you, I don't know if you got to it. And I mean, I don't know if it's okay to spoil one of the things, but, um. Oh, I don't want to know. No, if it's not episode two.

I guess we won't spoil it. Yeah, I want to spoil. Are you talking about the reveal midway? Yeah, I guess so. Okay, okay. Probably not. No, I won't talk. I'll get to it.

No, worry. Yeah, okay. And it's a slow burn. And I think that's what Vince Gilligan's always done really well is that you've got to trust the method. Better call soul. If you go and watch just season one, I remember watching it when it was airing. I was like, damn, this shit, no one's going to go's breaking bad.

Jesus, I'm like, this is better than breaking bad. Like, I loved it by the end. Yeah, yeah. The payoff is, I trust Vince. I trust him to kick. Because there's a lot of people who are complaining that it's too slow. Oh, really?

Yeah, a lot of people midway being like, nothing happened this episode. Does it end with season one or is there going to be a season two? Oh, I think there's going to be at least... I would say... Two, three, four. I don't know. I mean, it feels like so...

So much setup has happened and it feels like there's even more to set up in another season. I don't think we're going to get answers to a lot of the stuff anytime soon. Okay, okay. Yeah. I think, uh, I... I enjoyed it. I thought it was one of the most interesting concepts I've seen in a while in terms of like, conceptually, what if all of human consciousness merged into one being?

What if Shinji didn't reject the LCL and decided to join it instead, you know? That's kind of like how I imagine this. This is all happening in the orange juice of end of Eva. That is basically what it is. I remember after like two episodes, I was like, this is a really interesting concept. I am unsure where the central conflict is going to come from. Yes. And I finished the season and I was like, I still am unsure where the central conflicts, you know, what is the conflict that we're going to be spending like all of these seasons.

Is it going to be just turning everyone back into, you know, into normal? Is that going to be the goal? If so, how are seven people going to manage that when it's the entire globe? Yeah. There wasn't enough information for me to, like, see where the trajectory of the story it was going to take is. Yeah. And after the ending of the first season, I was definitely, I definitely felt like,

huh, I know something's cooking, but I don't even know what dish it is right now. Yeah, I agree. You know what I mean? I mean, I, that's like the one complaint that I feel like is, quite valid is that people just don't really know what the fuck is going on. Yeah. Or where it's headed. I just...

There's a nice smell coming out of the chaos. You know, I... Vince, I trust him. He's made two absolute bang of shows, given they have been in the Breaking Bad universe. Yeah. And there is so much natural conflict that comes from those. So I am interested to see how he's going to handle this one.

But he's the one... He's definitely a director and show creator that I'd be willing to watch like 20 hours just to see the payoff just to see what he's cooking like even if I was bored yeah um I mean there are some episodes you're like okay hurry it up oh okay there's a couple of like it does you know he does chew on it a bit but I also really like it how he does it and how he shows the world yeah because because I think the big thing was that the first two three episodes you were just so engrossed by this concept that they've presented you and they out they explore some like really interesting ideas um but then I was waiting for like

some kind of like bigger conflict to kind of like, I was hoping we'd see the start of it at least. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't really get that. But instead it's just like more time with the main character who, fortunately I'm not a bit of. Yeah. I mean, I feel like she was written.

I get where she's coming from. Yeah. I feel like she was written to be unlikable. Yeah. And maybe there are some points where that was a bit too effective. Like the one scene in episode two where she's like, all right guys, how are we gonna fix the well? And everyone's like, bro, what?

I don't know if you know, we're on the president's plane right now. Like, we're fucking bawling. I'm good. Yeah. So when that character said that, like, yeah, it was this interesting, I guess, dimension where, like, yeah, it really does, like, make you wonder, like, who is in the right here? Is it Carol who wants to just, like, put everything back to normal? But, you know, with it comes some, like, maybe some, like, maybe some negative. emotions and, you know, tragedy and, you know, all the things that make up the world.

Yeah. Or is it better to just leave it as is and just everyone live huffing happy gas. Yeah, I mean, the question of right is even one that I would even question. It's like, I don't even think there is a right. Yeah. Yeah. I think the motivations of each character so far are pretty genuine. They're valid.

I don't think anyone is trying to cause harm. They've been put in the situation. I think they're all just dealing with it. Yeah. Traumatically. Totally. one way or another. Like the Indian woman who has the kid.

Yeah. And she's like, that's my boy. Like, yeah, of course I'd understand. Like if, even if it was a fucking weird hive mind kid that somehow knows everything, I could understand why this character would be like, that's my kid. Yeah, exactly. And it's just, you know, different perspective over this one big event that has happened. And I think everyone has like a valid viewpoint based on what their character history was, you know.

And I feel like because of that, like I said, because of that, during like the middle part, it just meandered a little bit where it was just like, okay, where are we going with this? How, like, there are some like big revelations that happen like midway through. And then that really make you question, oh, okay, this is this kind of like a big truth form. And then it gets like addressed almost immediately to be like, oh, okay, that actually makes sense. I think that's also I feel like that's what he's building up I feel like what he's doing is I don't know like I'm trying to imagine I in a world where there's some kind of fun payoff here that I'm anticipating is that yeah we are almost

trying to be lulled into a sense of security with this hive mind that they won't do anything bad and I feel like as the show goes on and perhaps maybe they become more desperate for their own reasons I feel like it'll be the erosion of that safety that we've been completely lulled into and every explanation makes sense and everything

makes like we're all we're all like okay i guess that that's fine i guess you can grind you know yeah you know i guess you can do these things like i think that is what they are trying to do although it is frustrating at the end of the season not getting anything to be excited about and that's the biggest thing i didn't believe the season being like commonwave season two it's like i'll watch season two when it's out but i'm not like you know you're not gagging at it yeah right like a Game of Thrones peak cliffhanger back in the day when that was like, you know, when that was all the rage. So I feel like I just imagine that I'm hoping the central conflict will become from

this this hive mine as it kind of, I hope it starts to show cracks. Yeah. Because I, yeah, I would say there is one character that gets introduced to the end that was just like, all right, I'm back in. I like this guy. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. You know who I'm talking about. Yeah. Yeah. made interesting. Yeah. So, yeah, honestly, I think right now, the thing that draws me the most to this is how

interesting the concept is. Yeah. And I almost wish they explored, like, even more interesting ideas regarding that concept. Because we did get a lot of character moments in here. And there were some points where I were just like, I don't even need a central conflict. I just want to explore some, you know, weird shit that is the consequence of this huge, world events. So worth it to finish season one?

What would you say? You know, it might be a case of like in four seasons, it'll absolutely be worth it. Or it might not be. It's hard to tell. It's really hard to tell. But I think Vince Gilligan has proven himself as a trusted person to watch

in making thought-provoking and especially amazing character writing. So I think... This made me want to go back and finish Breaking Bad. Yeah. There's anyone who can probably make this kind of wish-washy ending of a first season into something spectacular. I think it's Vince Gailway. So I think it's going to be maybe on the back burner and maybe revisit in future when more seasons.

No, sure, sure. But yeah, we'll see. Because this is a good series, right? You know, in terms of production value, amazing. And I feel like the only issue with it is that I don't know where the story is going to go. Which could mean two things. maybe next season there's going to be this big reveal

and you're going to be like ah yeah, fuck yeah that was all worth it or maybe it's not there is not enough early signs for me to say if you know which part of the road is

is going to walk down and pretty much the only thing that is going to keep people invested I think is the name of the person who wrote it or created it and the trust they have in the writer yeah

yeah I enjoyed the first two episodes a lot. Yeah. They are probably that's two. Yeah. Sick. I'm so excited. Shit, yitty. We just, Joey was like, ah, this shit goes hard. And it's like, you've already experienced pink. No, I think it's just like the, it is a bit of whiplash. The first two episodes are paced quite fast and the reveal of information is pretty steady. And it almost becomes a drought. That's why I thought, yeah, that's why I thought though, based on just the, the, the, the first two episodes alone, I thought it was going to end with this season. I thought the pacing was going to... I think they definitely could have been that, but I, you know, Vince Gilligan, let him cook, let him cook.

All right. Okay, I believe. Yeah. True. I believe. And yeah, that was our Admi Club for this month. That was one thing. There was one thing I also, I watched.

Yeah. I don't know why I did this. Yeah. Perhaps some of you might think this is self-harm. But can't convince me. Gaunt told me that my hero academia gets good. That's what he said on the episode. I watched all of my hero.

Yes. Yes. I'm so sorry. Okay. So why did I do this? Well, I was moving. And when you're moving, you'll know that like when you hire movers and stuff and I was traveling a bunch too.

Yeah. I just knew I was going to have a lot of time where I needed to be available so be able to pause something and like do stuff. But also I wouldn't be able to do anything. Sure. So I was like, okay. You know what? fuck it. I'm going to find a show. I'm going to watch it. And for some reason, I was like,

you know what? I've been on this arc of giving things a fair shake. Yeah. And going back on my words, or not my word, or like, going back on my older opinions and revisiting them. Because I do think that as human beings, I think our tastes change quite rapidly. I don't think we realize how quickly they change. Absolutely. And often we are very quick to never want to revisit something. But there was clearly something that I like to begin with. So God told me my hair academia it gets good. And I was like, you know what? I want to see if gone was cooking. And you know what? I think gone was kind of cooking. Oh, let's go. I think here's what I'll say. Okay, so when I dropped my hero academia, I dropped it around season four or five. It was right after we got

introduced to LaBrava and gentlemen. Yeah. Because I was just so fucking sick of that bullshit. I was so sick of my hero academia doing my hair academia things. Okay. And so you have to imagine. imagine my fucking disappointment when I start season five, which honestly might be the worst season of My Hero Academia. Let's be honest. I can't remember what happens. Nothing happens in season five. Please re-encount me since you've watched it more recently than me.

Okay, so here, and here was the other thing. I had to go back constantly and reread about my Here Academia because I constantly forgot things that happened, important plot points and, you know, this kind of stuff. Are you okay with me spoiling things? Do you want me to spoil things? Joey, I dropped it. I dropped it off to season.

I think I should just spoil things. Yeah, just spoil things. This is anime club. We hear to spoil things. It's okay. You can tell them. Like, look, if you haven't watched my hair out of me, you don't like it, that's fine. I'm going to try my best to give it a fair, honest opinion of how I feel what it did good, what it did bad.

And my God, it did a lot of bad. But there I see why the good is pretty damn good. Okay. So season five, unfortunately, kicks off where they do another fucking school arc where they do. Your favorite. Oh my God. And it's like this. the most frustrating shit ever

because the weakest parts of My Hero Academia is when they're just randomly training for some bullshit. Yeah. And I get it. They know a big imminent battle is incoming. But we don't need to spend the whole fucking season having this fight. It's the one where they have these battles

between Class A and B. Oh, yeah. And it was the second time they did that, right? Second time they did it. And some of them, every single battle between, they would do 4 v4. And there's like, I think there's like, it was like five.

four V-4s or, and it was either two or three episodes, but each battle. And it was, Jesus. I'm not going to lie. It was pointless. Because the only thing that I think my hero sometimes struggles with watching this is that it's obvious that there are a lot of characters and they love these characters. And I just think sometimes these characters, they're just kind of whatever. And like, they don't really get a lot of chance to shine.

And I know they try so badly to do it. But a lot of these characters are just like, yeah, I guess, tape man has his moments, you know, Sello does have his moments, and that's, that's fine, but also you didn't need to give him the moment. You didn't need to focus on this character.

You need to put him in the fight so many times, you know, and they'll tell you that he's, he's paramount. And yeah, he is, and then I get it, and whatever,

but, but, so most of season five is that. Right. And that was the one that I had to do 1.5 speed. Oh, no way. Intro skip, no way.

It was like, it was killing me. It was killing me. So I was like, hurry the fuck up. And then right at the end of season five is when they fucking lock in for some generational storytelling.

Okay. Is this Endeavor's Ark? Because they go to the Endeavor arc. Ah, yes. And that is when this show, it finally locks in. Because you realize the entire My Hero Academia story,

yeah, maybe it's about Deku, but it's, I feel like it's really about endeavor. I feel like it's really about the Todoroki family. It's really what it's about. Tonoroki family drama is like fucking peak, man. It is so good. It's actually just man. It is a,

it's that, it's that wolf smoking a cigarette on the side of their life. The man wolf smokes a cigarette meme. Okay, again, this is, I've been watching this over the course of like, quite a while. So,

yeah, it's like that. You know, children think that Deku is the main character. And I guess he is technically, but it's really, I think it is a Todoroki, family story that really is the strong part of this and the whole saga, really.

Yeah. Because this is finally when we get to, you know, this is, I can't remember exactly what happens again. So please, I'm sorry about this because I watched it quite a while ago. This is season five. I can't help you. So season six, seven and eight I've watched since. Yeah. But basically Endeavour, we finally get where he kind of realizes that he was the problem in the family

and him coming to terms with it. And, you know, his daughter wants to reconnect this family. His wife or mother of Todoroki is still in the home. And we don't, you know, we don't really know if she wants to see him again. And Todoroki's brother just wants nothing to do with dad. And it's fucking, it's fucking brutal watching Endeavour, who is this guy who has just had to try, try, try and use power to get through everything in life, have this moment where he just realizes that that is just, not going to work in this family. Like, it doesn't matter how strong, how amazing you are.

You, no amount of strength could make you a good dad. And unfortunately, you have broken your family beyond repair. And it's all on him. Right. And it's so, it's just, it's so crazy that this show that just absolutely has some of the most dog shit characters just absolutely nails a home run. Watching Endeavour just have to be like, yeah. I mean, he's talking to his son, he's like, I know you don't love me.

I know you will never love me, but I'm going to be here. I'm going to do what I can for this goddamn family. And I'm taking this seriously. I don't need you to tell me you love me. I'm going to do it because it's my job as a dad. And it's so fucking good. It's so fucking good watching him do it. And it's so unexpected of my hero.

I don't know. Like, where did this come from? You know, like, it's always alluded to Endeavour. But it's such a beautiful story. And it's obviously, it expands beyond that throughout the seasons. Yeah. But truly the best parts of the show after that is anytime endeavor has to like a lock in for a fight because the emotional weight is there. And there's a big thing that happens that I can't believe I didn't predict because it's so obviously predicted the entire time that I feel like such a fucking moron for not being able to see it, which is fucking dabby, which is the main villain, the Blue Flame guy.

Yeah. Is fucking Toto Roki's brother. Oh, okay. Yeah. Which feels so obvious in hindsight. Yeah. Major spoilers. We should probably mention that. Oh, I mean, we've already had made discolars. It feels so obvious, but he is basically another son that had these amazing flame powers that were even stronger than endeavors. But he couldn't withstand the burning on his body. Right.

And so his dad was obviously endeavors like, you're a failure. You are not my son because I want a son that can do fire and ice. It can do both. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you were a failure to me. So, and that's how, you know, he almost pushes, he pushes out of the family from this mindset. Like this, even the marriage, you see how he got into the marriage. He basically just negotiated with the dad of this wife and was like,

I want your wife. In return, you will get riches and fame for being married to me. And they're like, handshake. And so you start to see a lot of this family dynamic that is just absolutely kind of toxic to the core. But it's genuinely beautiful and moving. And just to the exact thing we need in this world right now, which is the opposite of toxic masculinity. I don't know what it is here,

but Deva having to like go through this dad-off. was so beautiful and was really heartwarming and made me genuinely like kind of completely fall in love with the show again. Because it was that kind of arc at the end that would be like, all right. All right, let's see where you can cook. That was the end of season five.

That kind of starts at the end of season five. And there's a, I think, I've got, if you go to the episode season names on Wikipedia, I can kind of show you where it starts to happen. There's like three or four episodes where it kind of focuses on Endeavour right at the end of season five. I believe. It is,

I believe it is the end of season five. And that's kind of like, when I got to that point, was then I was like, God damn it. This is, it was such a good arc that I was genuinely back.

Yeah. All the shit they've put me through. No, that's not it. That's not it. Is that season five? Sadman's paradise. What's Sadman's Paradise again?

Tomara Shigaraki's origin. Was the end of season five, Shigaraki's, Backstory. Oh, that might have been it. What's season six then? Acquired beginning. Minico's...

Oh, no. This is when they're already in the fight, right? Yeah. They've already started the fight, I think. Yeah. So it was... It was end of season five. We had Endeavour story, I believe, and then Shigaraki's backstory.

And then they go straight into Shiguraki's, like, transformation. Yes, yes, yes, yes. That happens, right, because they do the raid. Yeah, they do the raid. on the hospital and the mansion. Yeah. So they, yeah, after this arc, finally, after this bullshit training,

they're ready to fucking fight the villains. And so for the next, basically, season six, season eight is one long fight. Jesus. Kind of really. Essentially. There is a little bit of a break point, but it's basically one big battle.

Let's stop for launch. One big battle, a big disaster, and then the final battle, basically. I see. Because there is a, and it's, you know, the battle is great. And I will say,

it's kind of nice. And then you said this to me as well, and I do agree with what you said. It was nice to just watch a goddamn honest, hard-working Shonen do its thing. It was nice to just a Shonen return to its roots. Yeah. And, you know, see the friendship.

And like, dude, like, I know the friendship shit is so corny in anime, but I will say, my hero's done it very well. Yeah. Yeah. I think they, they, they, sometimes it could be like, I did it with the power of friendship. But man, he did do it with the power of friendship. And it's good.

You do be right. And it's good. And, you know, I will say, like, again, the main story that really, I think, was to stand out of the entire show was the Endeavor arc and all of Endeavors, I feel like family moments. I agree. I think that was the strongest story arc. And even at the end when they start wrapping up and even during the battle, all of the arcs that were the, I feel like the highlight was the Endeavor stuff. It was really good. The One for All Stuff is great too. Yeah. Shiguraki is also good. But I just think it really pulled out all the stops for the Endeavor arc. endeavor as a character is, you know, it's such an easy guy to hate when you first introduced to him and you learn about him and to watch him go through this change was just... I mean, I also have really turned around on Bakuggo as well. Yeah, yeah, I know it becomes likable.

Well, I don't know about that. Okay. I spoke to God a little bit about my hero. And I had, yeah, I do agree. Back ago was my main issue with all of my hero for the first five seasons. Yeah, you had a massive hateful. I fucking hated Baku. I will say, after watching all of it, a little better, but I still is still kind of insufferable. Like, in a way. Like, I get, I get.

Yeah. And I think that, I understand that's what the intention was with the character to make this character that is so fucking annoying. Yeah. But the whole point is that he is so unable to express his emotions in a normal way, for whatever reason. And that is how he chooses to show appreciation. And yeah, there's like, especially when there's a moment,

okay, sorry, I'm getting, I'm getting sidetracked. There are so many moments in the show that I remember from memes. Like, you remember the meme back ago dies. Oh, yeah. And I like watching these memes play out, but I'm watching them happen basically in like real time, but meme, I'm watching weeks of memes play out. Daku's Quirkless, like all this shit.

I'm watching it all play out. It's really funny. Yeah, to see it. And to remember the memes and how big of a deal they were when these chapters were coming out. Right, right. But, uh,

spoiler, a backer doesn't fucking die. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I figured. Yeah. He does for like,

I don't know, I guess in the episodes, he's dead for like 10 episodes and he comes back. Because of course he does. So, he comes back. Well, he's,

he's like resuscitated and like revived. Oh, bro. When he comes back, it's just like the fuck. It is kind of hype. It is the dapp up of history. Like, like,

motherfucker. This is like, he can't, I'm just going to describe to you. He, like, comes back from the death. And Deku's in, like, the fight for, fight for life, right? Yeah. They fucking look each other in the eye.

Not a word is, like, said between them. And then there is, like, the most historic dapp-up of, like, history. It's pretty good. Where Deku throws him over to, like, save All-Mite. Yeah, that, okay, that I will say, he probably has the most hype moment of any of the fights. When he goes, like, Dicko mode, it's kind of, it's kind of amazing. Like, here's his moment during the fight. I was like, God damn, okay, you've earned it.

Fair enough. My back of your slander was unwarranted. You did it. Fair enough. Yeah. He's still maybe a character that I strongly dislike throughout most of the show. He has his moments. I still don't like him, but I will agree his redemption was worth it.

One thing that we have mentioned before in Trash Taste is our opinion that Allmite should have died. at the end of season three. Is that still of your opinion, now having finished it? Ah, man, you know, I think it was really hard to handle All Might as a character in so many ways because he's such a... He is, throughout all the story,

especially later in the seasons, All Might is basically not in it. Like, he is there as a supporting role. He'll pop up. But his legacy is more of a character than he is. Every character. All Might. All Might.

All my, All Might. Endeavour is talking about All Might, his legacy and how it affected his life. How almost All Might existing and All Might's existence is basically what forced Endeavour to realize I was not able to become number one. So what else did I fucking fuck up? Like what else did I was I not able to do? Like why? Okay. I couldn't get my dream of getting number one being the most powerful.

And it's almost that legacy and that overwhelming power and superior, like, All Might's superior hero skills that he had to come to terms with. that almost, that's what made him reflect internally on his family. And all of his legacy on every single character and the world is so present throughout that you're like, damn, it is kind of a shame they didn't kill him. He should have died, but he does have some fucking good moments. Holy shit. His moment is kind of beast.

Bro, bro, his comeback. His comeback kind of beast. Oh, my. Oh, my fucking God. I was, I did not like, I didn't expect it. I don't know if you expected it because I was just like, oh, he's gonna be sideline, but there's this moment in season seven

where he fucking, every hero is like either dead or like incapacitated. One for, like one for all. Was it all four? Yeah, all for one is on his way to like wreck shit. And everyone's like, there is no one left. Fucking All Might steps up. And he's like, he is still this like scrawny ass man.

But God, God, damn. The fucking Orchid. aura on this man. Yeah, his aura is... So basically what happens is, obviously, in the movie, which I also watched. I didn't watch it this time. I watched it. I watched it in theaters. There he goes to America

and there's the girl who's the tech wizard. And of course, it's the shoehorn in where they got to put the movie character in, but it makes sense, I guess, I'm saying. She makes this mech suit that allows all my act to fight. And this mex suit is like, God tier. So it allows him to fight, not really do anything. He's just stalling. But he has some amazing moments in this fight. And throughout this fight, basically all he's doing

is just trying to aura, aura farm on him and fuck with his head. He's not trying to win this fight. He can't win this fight. Yeah. He is just, because he knows, he's live streaming this. For some reason, he knows the camera

is the most important thing in this fight. So he is constantly just trying to be like, my smile is more important than anything you could do to me. And then he starts bleeding. He's like, no, my smile is still more important. Chat, should I do it? Yeah.

He's like, type one, type one, if I should do it. Type W right now. You're with me. So he logs in. And look, it's, I think it's a good, like, I think I'm so torn on all might on if you should have died or not. I think they handled it so well that I'm almost like, okay, it's fine. I like how they handled all night.

I think it, it was a good choice. I think it also could have worked. I still mothered mindset. He still could have died. And I think his impact on the series. still would have been the same probably because everyone talks about All Might, every sentence. Everyone talks about All Might.

But I still think it was maybe the most hype. The worst part about, there's two parts that I want to talk about that I really hate. I think I know what you can talk about. But go for it. I'll talk about him last. Okay. First of all, Mr. Fucking Smiley.

What the fuck was that? Who the fuck is that? They do this fucking episode randomly. I don't know. Can you say Mr. Smiley? Maybe that's the episode. They do this episode. They are on a generational run.

What the fuck is this guy? Of the story going in the right direction. Yeah. Okay? They are on this generational run. Endeavour story came through. We finally got Shigureki's arc. We're about to fucking kick shit off.

Fucking filler episode. Mr. Smiley shows up. He's the villain. And what he does is that when he looks at someone, he just goes, Mr. Smiley. And then they are hypnotized. And they start laughing. And it's just like a stupid fucking moment.

Okay. And he is never mentioned. again in the show. At least Mr. Gentleman and La Brava come back for arguably one of the most hypeous moments anyway. They get, the two characters I fucking hated. I hated these two. They were so annoying.

They came out of nowhere and they just ruined season four's flow. They at least come back and have some goddamn hype moments. I couldn't believe I was cheering for them when they came back. I was hearing that. I was like, I had no way. Gento is back. No fucking way. And again, he was oral farming because he's like

talking to her. He's like, the camera's watching, right? The camera's got a good angle of this. He's like, all right, I'm locked in. Yeah, this fucking character shows up. What a, fuck it. It's so dumb. I hated this because you were finally getting hyped. What episode is this episode?

It should say somewhere. It's like the moment they finally put that dumb filler shit to the side, you're locked in. You're like, finally, the show is about to get good. And then they do this. And I'm like, stop, stop, stop, my hero. Why did you do this? I don't even remember this person.

It's that unforgettable. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. It's not forgettable here. You can forgettable? Yeah. Yeah, sorry. Well, unforgettable for me here because it stood out so much.

I was, oh my God, I was so frustrated because I was like, we, this is why people make fun of this show. Right. This is why I make fun of this show. Yeah, look at this. Oh, there you go. Episode 8. Okay, what, the, you are, okay, this is, uh, what episode is this? Oh, these is the OVAs.

Oh, that might be wise. Is episode 8 of the OVA. Is it really? I guess I was watching it, like I'm just watching it all in order of whatever the releases. Okay. Oh, that's probably why it was Phil. Because you're watching the OVAs. God damn.

I'm so pissed off. Okay. So the only other big thing that I thought, I was like, damn, this is so lame. Is that, okay, so much. You remember you watched season one, right? Yeah. You remember the villain, Stain? Yeah, the one with the hands?

He's got the mask and when he licks someone's blood. they get stunned. Staines, Staines for the season three. Is it really? Oh, my God, I thought it was season one. He is kind of like,

yeah, I've never seen this guy. He's kind of another character that almost just like all might but for villains. Yeah, okay. He's the pure embodiment of what the villains were trying to strive for,

which was just a goaded villain. He's the woe. He was the woe. He was the goaded villain. He didn't care about fucking being like famous or anything or causing, he just wanted the fucking

kill heroes for the love of the game. And he was damn good at it. Right. And so throughout the show, throughout the seasons, they're slowly kind of hyping him up. And when All for One finally gets released, he breaks out all the prisons. And Stain also gets released. But he goes to disheveled All Might and he's like, look, I fucking hate these new villains. They don't do it.

They're not like me. They don't do it for the same reasons I do it. Here's where they're hiding. Here's where all the info is. he's like, stop, because Allmite's going through this, like, I don't know if I'm the goat anymore. I might be washed. And he's like, what the fuck are you talking about? You see that? He's like, looking at the statue. Look at this statue. Look what you mean to people. You are the ghost. Right. Without the you, there is nothing. Without what you stand for, there is nothing. And it's,

it's so hype and you know he's going to come back. Yeah. And then during this all for one fight versus all for one, again, when he has the max shoot, he shows up. And he fucking stunts all for one. and then immediately dies. Like 0.3 seconds. He shows up and dies. It's so pathetic. And I was so sad because I love Stain as a character.

When your goat is washed. He was my goat. He's chopped at all. He was one of the characters that I thought was so interesting and so well handled. And they just fucking insidide. And I don't think I've seen

any of the character in the show get done so dirty. See even fucking Sello Man and the fucking bird caller and fucking Cementos got more got more fucking time in the sun. It's ridiculous. My boy staying got done

so dirty. Was that who you thought I was going to talk about? No, I thought there was this moment in season seven where you're like right in the middle of like all of these hype fights that have been built up. Obviously, to the Todoroki, you got the Deku fight, you got the Ochko fights with Crazy Girl and like

you had all these fights going on. And then they were like, nah. let's go to a many hands man and a crocodile guy and uh oh yeah and uh by the way

racism is a thing and uh it's bad and I was like this I feel like there is an idea for a really like deep hard hitting story here yeah but you can't just introduce this in season seven and expect me to be like invested

I think I made a joke like 10 years ago or whenever it first the first season came out. Yeah, 10 years ago. Yeah, yeah, wow. Okay. I remember I posted this Twitter video that was me being like, oh, this is my hero

quirks be like, and it was just like, this is my son, he's a printer. And I just be like, it's like such a weird world that the guy is like a cement brick. How the fuck was he born and turned into that? And how does this world function with people who... That's a painful book. How does the cement guy breed with someone else? How does he fall in love, you know, like all these things that are fascinating? They kind of lightly touch on it in season seven.

Yeah. And yeah, it was kind of weird because it was like, the show had given no inkling that there was ever any kind of tension between people with normal quirks and quirks where they like change their body

or turned them into monsters. There was never any, at least from what I remember, never any moment where the show... Well, you watched like how many seasons in a row and it was like... Not from season five to... Yeah, I can't remember either.

Where they're like, yeah, and there's racism in the world and we don't like it. And it's like, okay. Yeah. It's like the world's ending. I get it. It's a big deal.

It's not important. Yeah. And then, yeah. And you know what the worst part is? It is confirmed in the show that... This is real, by the way. This is real. The Cooper guy.

I forgot his name. I've watched like eight seasons back to back. Sugaraki and the Cooper guy. Oh, yeah. They play League of Legends together. They are so confirmed. This is in the show. In the show, I don't know this is Netflix subtitle.

scamming me. They literally say they became friends from playing league together. No wonder than a league of villains. That's what I said.

That's why I knew Shigareki is the most evil. I think, can you Google it? Shiguraki plays League of Legends. I don't know. I had to screenshot.

I was in such disbelief. Actually, I wrote it down. I wrote it down. When we both found out that we were bronze rank, I knew there was a French. The main villain, Shiguraki, states,

that he states that he used to play solo in League of Legends. Wait, can you get like a screenshot? Like an image of this? I have the actual, if you want to know what. I wrote it down because I actually was... That's crazy. League of Legends? Yeah, I played that one.

Oh, actually, I do remember this moment. In episode 163 at 12 minutes away. If you want to go to it, I don't know if we have like... Yeah, I do remember this moment. Yeah. And I was in odd... I actually stood up. I was like, are you fucking kidding me?

Are you fucking kidding me? The main villain of the... Well, I guess second main villain. The second main villain of this show is a fucking League of Legends player. And he found another villain in a deep depression because they were both playing league. It writes itself. The parallels are. All right.

I've not talked to anyone about this year because the season has just ended but we have also seen the memes and the reaction when the manga ended and how much heat my hierarchy got. And so I wasn't sure what to expect either. I was like preparing I was like maybe it's going to be a shit ending

but whatever it's season 8 has done good to me up till now. So what's this ending that people are going to be, have been flaming my hair I think it was a pretty good ending. It's a good ending. I think it was a good ending. I thought it was good. I don't, I do not know. Yeah, where are the complaints coming from? I, manga readers I'm just realizing just don't like any ending. They're just fucking sick and tired of that show ending. Yeah, that's true. Like, I thought that's, you know, it wasn't like the ending that it wasn't like a fucking Code Gius ending or whatever. But it was a satisfying ending that ended

everyone's story arcs. And you know what? There was enough time to kind of like end, like tie up all of the loose ends. We got the epilof, like the Todoraki family drama. We got to see what all the characters ended up as well on the aftermath of the big fight and disaster that came down. And I thought it ended with a really succinct

and coherent message as well. And a lot of it. I think it was the ending specific. that sold me on why, even though Deku wasn't my favorite character in Mahira Academia, I do think he was the right character to be the protagonist in Mahir academia. And I feel like the season eight really... Holy shit. Is this the...

Loll, I played it too. I was a solo player. That's how they bonded. That is how they bonded. because they both played league. It's actually insane. Jesus Christ. I agree.

And I really love the epilogue. Yeah. I thought the epilogue was really well done. I love how there was just, I don't know, I thought it was really cool because it's like, yeah. And it was also very Japanese in a sense where there was a lot of focus shown on the restoration after this giant battle. And it feels very, it felt very reminiscent of the same kind of atmosphere that you see in Japan

after earthquakes. Yeah. Yeah. This mentality of like, everyone comes together to fix everything. Doesn't matter what your power is, doesn't matter what kind of here you are. Yeah. We're all out here just trying to fix it and try to improve stuff for everyone. Yeah.

And it was a really good ending. And like you said, they tie up all the arcs. I enjoyed that there were some villains that got some redemption. But it's not like a clean redemption. It's not like, it's not saying you're absolved of all your sins because you helped out. It's like, hey, you know, you did some wrong. But showing that you can do some good and that you want to do good is the first step in that direction. And I feel like maybe a lot of people were angry because they were kind of like, I think,

maybe waiting for Deku to become that Allmite, you know, that kind of like Allmite symbol. And after Allmite had his moment, nobody really reached that, you know, same level of status. But I thought, like, in the ending fight where, you know, it was shown that it's kind of like Decu's weakness that really was his strength as a hero and how it kind of, instead of having a symbol that people relied on to fix all the problems and beat all the villains, it showed that even a normal person could become a hero and should become a hero and tried to be the best person around them, to the people around them. And I thought that it was such a succinct message that my hero has clearly been building towards for the entire run. And I thought the, I thought, I thought,

so many shows are lacking that. Like one succinct, one clear direction and one clear message that the show was trying to say, that the series was trying to say. And after the final episode, I really re-evaluated like my stance and my view of My Hero Academia. Because I don't... My Hero Academia is not my favorite

shonen. You know, it's not my favorite shonen, even of the modern generation, I think. But I feel like time will always need a show like My Hero Academia. Yeah. And I feel like the only reason I don't like my hero academia more is because I'm older and I'm more, you know, clued into the world. Because my hero academia represents the kind of story that I felt like I grew up with, you know, the kind of story that taught me, hey, I should be a good person, I should try and be a hero,

like, you know, when you watch fucking Goku or something or when you watch some of the shonings you grew up with. My hero academia is able to condense those, that messaging so purely down to its core. for an audience, for an audience. And it is something that I don't even feel like other shonans do as well as, as well as my hero. Yeah, I agree. Even like, I fucking love chainsaw man, for example, but it is a much more mature, grounded, real story than my hero, which does have some very real moments, some real powerful moments, but it comes into it with a lens that is a bit more pure than maybe JJK or chainsaw man. But I feel like even though I prefer other shonans,

like we will always need a show like My Hero. And I really fucking respected for that. Damn. And there's a lot, there's a lot that My Hero could have improved on. Yeah. There's a lot of unnecessary episodes. There's a lot of filler. There's quite frankly seasons that could have been omitted.

And there's a lot of characters that I think don't have the time or adequate presence in the show that I think they tried to do. but ultimately I think it sticks to landing and like you said the call message is there and the main characters are really good even back ago I'll admit it

so I'm so a formal apology to My Hero Academia you know what? I'm talking so much shit for so many years I was unfamiliar with your game I think it's an honest it's a beautifully honest show with so much heart and I think it stuck the landing in the end

all I'm going to say is praising My Hero Academia was not on my bingo card Yeah, yeah. Look, here we are. I, and although I watched season five in 1.5 speed, I did watch the rest of normal speed. I just want to get them out there.

I just had to skip through those fucking fights. There's a fucking brain dead. Yeah, yeah. And like that's, and I think that's like, that was the frustrating part of watching it initially, was that it felt like it was just fucking wasting my time. Yeah, it was just, it had no respect for, like, what it was occupying in the viewer's life.

Yeah. And then they just locked the fuck in. Yeah. And it was great. And I got to say, I don't know if this is inappropriate, but some of those, some of the characters are so fucking hot. Mitsuba, that Bonnie girl, her moment, damn. Oh, God, damn.

Which moment? Which moment? God damn. She had so many, man. Her moment when she's trying to like break the fucking, she got a chigodakia in the fucking tube. Oh my God. Bro. She didn't even like do anything like sexy. She's just like so hot.

Oh my God. She's the epitome of like, I love a woman that can kick my ass. Holy shit, man. And the sniper lady, I forgot her name. Oh, yeah. Wait, a nappy new. What is that, Nappy? Negant.

Megantz. Oh, she's hot. Oh, God damn. Those two? Damn. Yeah. Damn. Yeah, and like, in terms of like the action, I feel like the biggest strength of my hero,

has always been like the character writing and how it's like being able to tie it's like the characters to the core messaging and the themes. But there was this moment in season eight where, you know, in season seven, I was like, damn, can we, can we stop yapping? Can we stop yapping and get to the action? And then I realized, I had this like epiphany. I was like, you know, when the action hits, it fucking hits. And I was like, wait, watching my hero is like watching American football.

you know it's like goddam there are so like you get some like fucking incredible action yeah in motion it's like some of the most impressive like action you can see yeah and then you pause for a bit and you just like take it all in you know and then you wait for the next action piece yeah yeah and that's what watching my yo felt like um fair enough i yeah i love um there's a lot of characters i really like as well uh hawks i think is really good hawks is a really cool character as well um I forgot it, the double guy, the villain guy. I love to his story as well. Yeah.

So many interesting characters here. Twice, twice. Twice. Twice. Amazing. Yeah, a lot of the villains are really interesting. The weird villain cult that kind of happened for like three episodes is a bit odd. Yeah. You know, they do this thing where they're like, we have hundreds of thousands of villains waiting to take over the world.

They were like a cult. And then they just fought the leader. And then suddenly, I guess they're the leader of the cult. And everyone's part of them that. It was really weird. It was a very, it was a very, like, weird way for them to kind of just, like, instantly get control of, like, the entire world. Yeah, right, right. But I feel like it needed to happen.

They needed it. The problem was is that they dilly dallyed so fucking long in this manga that they just needed to, like, chop, chop. And they did. Like, they immediately were like, okay, they've got everyone and they've got this giant fucking mech human thing now. Yeah. And it's all good. The villains are now the most powerful. And you're like, well, you're kind of so glad that they're finally getting to it that you're like,

Whatever, okay, sure. You're like, I just want to get on with this. Like, can we hurry up now? Like, yeah. Because you just want, you want the story to start resolving because there was, they had set up so many things that needed to happen. And if they had taken the pace to actually allow this buildup to happen, it would have been like another, two more seasons maybe at this pace.

It would have been so long. So I'm glad that they did realize they just need to fucking lock in and just get done. I wish Miss America had more than one fight. Dude, the America fight. because I remember you explained it to me because I was like, I'm never going to watch it. I'm watching the America fight was so fucking funny.

They tried so hard to make it seem like it was the most impactful thing. And I'm like, come on, it just wasn't. It just was because Shigodaki and all for one, obviously they had all these quirks. And they needed some way, I guess, to kind of like, kind of nerf it. But they also had built up this America intervention arc. So they were like, all right,

send in the number one America, her thing. And it's just kind of all might but a woman, but has a different power, which is anything they say is a rule that must be followed. So they can be like, but they can be like, they can be like, the air around you will

not exist. So then you'll just be in like a void. How the that sounds overpower to shit. Yeah, it is. And so, but the problem is that she has no power outside of that. So if she says like, you can't do that. But then Shiguraki can, like, now he can like, you can't fight him

on the ground because he can destroy the ground and everything, everything around it. So they have to fight in the air. So she fights on top of a fucking stealth bomber. Like seven of them. Okay. Because of course America sends all these stealth bombers in. But she can't fly or anything. And if she made that a rule, she can't do anything.

So she's kind of like kind of useless. Right. But she has this one rule that can kind of be super useful. So she obviously like one chapter done, dead, killed. But she makes one rule, which is do not allow me. to be taken over or don't... I don't... I don't remember. It was basically like, don't allow him to have all these quirks. So she basically goes in

and her final like, fuck you is that she starts killing or destroying a lot of the quirks inside. Right, right. And gets rid of some of the, maybe the more game-breaking balance patch and gets rid of like the... The big one that she gets rid of is like his reflecting ability, which is like he can... Because before he could just be like, fuck you and reflects damage. Which is just like super dumb and, you know, not balanced. Yeah. So she nerfs him.

And that's about it, really. And that's all America's got, apparently. Fair enough. But yeah, that was... Kind of kind of badly. It was kind of a poorly done world intervention arc, but... I want to see more of her.

She seemed like a very interesting character. And she had an interesting power as well. The power was cool. Yeah, the power was cool. And the power was so broken that, of course, they couldn't give it to them. So her power never got to be used and they had to, like,

he had to, like, internally kill her, her internal quirk. Yeah. being game breaking. Yeah, like moments of that writing where you're like, okay, let's just move on.

Yeah. But very well done. And the way you described all that to me was great, but... I mean, like, I think... I ain't watching all that. I think the problem is,

is ultimately, my hero academia requires and asks a lot of time. It's more episodes than Hunter Hunter. And it's hard to argue that, like, I don't know, like,

Hunter is a better show. Like, it's just, without a shout of a doubt. But it's not to say there's not something there and there's not some really, no, of course. Really good moments.

I gave season one a fair shot and at the end of season one I was like, I get white people like this show. It's just not for me. Yeah. And that was just my conclusion to it. But, uh,

you're gonna be watching the new Gijis Kaysen Jerry? I'm, I'm, I'm watching it. I've been enjoying my lobotomy Kaysan. I've been enjoying it as well. It's, uh,

such a, going from my hero to JJK again. And I'm just like, it's like a whiplash of tone. Oh, my God. Yeah, because this is the next anime I've watched since that. And it's like, oh, my God. Right. That first episode, Jesus Christ.

Like, it's good, man. I got to ask, right? Because do you think animators know which scenes are going to be mean? Yes, yes. Because they knew that. They must. Holy shit. It was like, because that's the one scene that has gotten spread around from

JJK season three. It was like, it was like designed to be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was like, huh?

JJK season three. Yeah. I mean, it should just come up. You just type that in, I feel. Yeah, JJK season three.

There is one cut from one. The no, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the one where he flips his hair back as he's like, fucking, oh,

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. This meme is kind of, that,

that's why I, I, I learned the word of lobotomay kisan, because apparently whenever Jujutsi Kaysen is airing, you will be lobotomized by the amount of memes, you're going to be subject. Yeah. JJK is almost taken over, uh, the Jojo in terms of like the kind of like the meme game. I think it kind of has. Yeah, you know?

Yeah, I've seen this everywhere. Yeah. I saw this and I was like, I saw this when they came out and I was like, yeah, it is going to get memes. And like, it has like fucking clockwork. Um, I just. It is a great show. Just, I want to know, because I haven't read the original manga, I just want to know if this is, like, completely anime original,

or was there any panel in the manga that even alluded to this? You know? I'm not too sure. The absolute, like, this, the absolute audacity of this car. I just love the show, because it's like, what if power scaling was just, just absolute buckets of heroin? Like, what if we just don't fucking even begin to try and measure it? We just fucking smoke it.

Yeah. Like, it's through the fucking roof. It's so fun. it's hard not to have a smile watching the scenes like this it's so ridiculous and it's also another meme because

this arc is the culling game and they show the rules and it's a giant fucking wall of text on the screen it's ridiculous can you show the culling game rules it's like a freeze frame of the rules

I remember watching the other I was like I had to like pull it and go what? Where's the frame no no it's blue the frame is blue No, you'll see it.

Oh, there it is. No, no, go, go up, God. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, right next to it. Right, I see it. So this, this. Holy fuck. This screen pops up for a second.

And it's so funny with the English subtitle. It goes over all of the Japanese text. It looks even more confusing. Oh, my God. And it's on the screen for like five seconds. Nowhere near long enough for you to. They just drop a fucking light, novel chapter for like five seconds.

At this point, you don't even know what the fuck the culling game is. So they drop the rules before they even explain anything. So it's like, what the fuck? Just pause and read that. You don't even know why they're even showing the rules. They don't even mention it yet. It's not even mentioned. Yeah, I think the moment is just like, okay, we're taking part in the cullen game.

And the conning game just pops up and then it just goes to the next scene. You're like, it's like, huh? Huh? Oh, okay. I mean, I guess. Yeah. I'm just like, I, they bring up the flow charts when they start explaining the reason why this game is happening. There's literal flow charts in the show.

Yeah. Jesus. And it was at this moment where I was like, oh, damn, you really fucking inspired by Tagashi hi. Yeah. This is a bad to say. This is Green Island. I've only seen like the first few episodes of this arc and I can just like, it is going full fucking like toogashi. Kind of like vibe, like Yu-Yak show, Hunter, Hunter.

It's like the 17 pages of the card. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the fucking, the boat, the boat arc. Oh, yeah. It's actually ridiculous. It's still going on.

Technically, yeah. Yeah, technically it is. And yeah, I'm very, very excited for this new arc of JJK. At this point, I'm just like, I'm on board. I'm on board with just the memes and the hype. And if I just get some good fights, uh, because it seems like, the powers are getting more and more kind of like out there and ridiculous. And it's from this first fucking few episodes of the Colling Game arc,

it just seems like the powers is going to get more, let's say, Jojo-y or kind of like Hunter-Huntery maybe, where they are not just your standard. I mean, they weren't your bog stand powers anyway, but maybe leaning even more down that rabbit hole. Right, right. Watching this feels like the fifth B. it's like, fuck it.

Yes. Another one. Yeah. Why not? It's so good. Yeah. It's, I think it's a, it's a, it's such a fun show. And I, the reason why I just, I, I've never thought the story is like, amazing or,

quite frankly even exceptional. I mean, I, it's a solid, like, story. It's right. My God, it's just fun. It is just fun. Yeah. That's fair. And I, it's the reason why I'll just watch every, every, every, every, every, every, every,

it asks, because I'm just like, it's just good fucking fun. Fair enough. Yeah. What's next on your watch list then, since you are going down this? No, man. I think I should give 86 another fair shot. Maybe I should go back to it. Maybe it's the next one I do. I don't know. If I do, I'm not going to say anything until I've fully done it. What if you're watching that you hate that. That's the thing is that like, I want people to know that this isn't me doing like a fucking redemption. It's me like, I'm trying to genuinely. I've told you. Like, I'm trying to watch media and

like find the fun of it. Like, because I think I was a consumer where I was watching things for the sake of watching things or staying in the loop. Yeah. And I feel like it's,

it's a thing that we, a lot of people find themselves doing nowadays because the internet kind of, you know, it's trends, it's trends, you've got to be in, you've got to be in,

you're watching things. And I felt like I was just watching to be in or just consuming for the sake of saying I've watched something or to pass time. Yeah. And now I'm trying to actually go through shows with a mindset of like,

I'm actually trying to find fun in this. and I'm not enjoying it, like, just kind of recognizing that and just kind of, you know, either dropping something and being okay with it or just act, but like genuinely giving things a fair shake. Yeah, and I feel like there is a balance to that because I feel like, you know,

because that's the mindset I try to always do. I always have when watching things. But there are some things that are just bad. I mean, there are some things that just might not be to a taste, you know? That's true. That's true, too. Because I was like 86. I like it, but if the first season didn't grab you, Yeah.

Second season is probably not going to change your mind. I was really like, my hero was just like there is a lot in the later arcs that you will not get by just watching like up to like season 3. Which is why I really recommended that. But like, for the life of me, I know there is nothing that is going to change your mind about Oshinoco. No. That's another one where I feel like I'm not just hating on it because I, you know, whatever. I actually genuinely thought it was just bad. And I felt so vindicated

when the public sentiment changed on that show because I was saying it was bad since like episode three. I was like, this is not going in a good direction. I'm seeing the writing on the wall. Everyone's like, yeah, but the music. I'm like, so, you know, and again, I'm trying to not blindly throw hatred or to say something's bad or to just dunk on things

because, like, you know, I've really enjoyed things that people shit on And I'm like, not that it changes anything to me, but I know for some people it does. And I just want to make sure that when I'm saying things, I'm just like, I'm giving it a genuine fair shot. And if you clown on something, then you know, you know it's worth clowning on. You know it's worth clowning on. So we'll see. We'll see.

Yeah. But, you know, it's the internet. I don't really care if people, you know, care if I, you know, like their show or not. because people, you know, who watch ours will still be like, well, Joey said this five years ago. It's a bitch, I don't even know who that guy is. I don't know who I was five years ago. Yeah, exactly.

That should have changed. Gotts a opinion changes. The only difference is that there's a 4K recording of me doing it and there isn't a view. That's the difference. So it's, but, you know, I think being able to change and being able to be like, that guy five years ago, dumb as shit.

He didn't know what the hell he was talking about. Yeah. I think that's important. And that's fine. Recognizing that is fine. Yeah. Yeah. And if something's not for you, then that's also fine.

Yeah. But that's been, that's been anime club. Hopefully you've enjoyed this conversation. Yeah. That was three shows. Wow. Yeah. We talked more about MHA that we did.

To be fair, MHA had a lot more. I had a lot to talk about. I had a lot to talk about NHHA. That's fair. He went through like a decade's worth of content. That is true. In about an hour. Yeah.

Thanks for that. You're welcome in. You didn't miss that much. Nah, it was good though. I give it at 8 or a 7.5 out of 10. That's fair. I think it bumped up a lot. No, I appreciate your explanation.

I, uh, I am watching it. You don't need to watch it. You don't need to watch it. I don't believe in scores. I ain't, I ain't watching it. I don't believe in scores. Feelings right here. Fuck up.

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