Trash Taste Podcast - We Got REALLY DRUNK Again | Trash Taste #192

Episode Date: February 23, 2024

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Welcome back Delicious Daddies to another episode of Trash Taste. I'm Joey and I'm with two more delicious daddies. You want to talk about Joey? No, I'm with two more delicious daddies gone, Connor. And get your beers out, boys, because we're drinking. Hey, cheers, lads. Cheers. What are we doing today?

We have to do these every now and then because people keep asking for a Friday today. And we thought that it would be a good way to start our weekend by just getting shit face drunk, or maybe not, or not, Joey. Hey, I'm alright this time. I drank my hook on, so I drank the magic potion, so I'll be alright.

I've drank only non-unalk beer for like the past two weeks, so when I drank that, I was like, oh shit. This is what a real beer tastes like. This is what a real beer tastes like. How does it feel? You're a man again. I actually kinda think of the non-incolics growing on me quite a lot.

I think I'm preferring it now. Stop it. It's good for a casual one. How old are you still? I'm 27. Mate. What, I can't have a non-unolic beer? No, you're fine.

The Australian is. Me is offended. What, it's good. See, Garna's come over since the last time. Yeah, but he's old. You're gonna come over. Wait, wait, what does that got to do with anything, Joey? Yeah, what is, what is it being old?

I'm kidding. What is the ages I'm got to do with, I can't wait till you get a 30, Joey. I'm gonna play the old Uno reverse card. Give me eight months and I'll be there, don't worry. See, I haven't got to the age yet that I enjoy whiskey for the taste. I can taste the difference, but do I ever go out of my way to be like,

I need a nice, like, I need a nice whiskey, and over the rocks. Shit, I'm already there. When you're not into like whiskey or you're not into wine. Yeah. It feels like a conspiracy when everyone else is talking about the differences in the flavors.

You're like, you're all fucking with me. Yeah, no, because like, because I remember, this all tastes like paint thinner to me. Yeah, no, because I remember like, I only got into whiskey or I started to like, I guess, get whiskey, quote unquote, maybe like a few years ago. Because before then, I was like,

no, this tastes like paint thinner. This is horrendous. And now that I'm into it, I finally, I'm not quite at the level of, like I can discern the difference between the different whiskeys, but I do kind of understand when whiskey heads are just like, yes, this gives a smoky flavor. Like I can smell the smoke.

Because it's like, yeah, if I fucking put smoke on it. But before, like, couple of years ago when I was into it, I'm just like, no, it all just smells terrible to me. Like I don't know the difference, but now I get it. I'm gonna be real. I think that way about wine. I just, the more I've become a wine connoisseur, I guess, which is a fancy way to say alcoholic,

The more I've gotten to like drinking different wines, I'm like, okay, wines come in two categories. Wine I like and wine I don't like. I thought you were gonna say red and white. It's like, shit. Well, I feel like this is why I'm probably a bad wine enjoyers that I just generally enjoy every wine I've had, except for like very, very cheap, like $5 wine.

Yeah, I know the wines. We've had some nights on cheap, cheap wine and you were enjoying it. Yeah. Well, yeah, depends on drunk we are. First of all, everyone knows, everybody knows, At least anyone who drinks fairly often. The first drink is when you bring out the expensive stuff.

Yes. Every drink after that, you can get cheaper, get cheaper, yeah. You just buy the shitter stuff because you're like, I don't go, fuck now. I've already had my one enjoyable drink. Exactly. It's like craft beer as well. It's like the first craft beer is delicious.

The fifth one is just no different. What do you think then is the one type of alcohol that no matter how old you get, no matter how much your taste change in life, you don't think you'll ever come around to? I just can't see a world's right like whiskey. I can't do tequila. Or tequila.

Really? Yeah. Every time I've had it, it just tastes like paint thinner. I really like Bayou. What is this then? It's the Chinese one. It's the Chinese spirit. Yeah.

Yeah. That sounds scary. It is scary. Because it's like a stupidly high alcohol. You know, also, sake. I've tried to get into it. Sake, for me is like whiskey. I used to not like it and now I actually can, I've got one step beyond with Sake.

I can now taste the difference. difference. Chris gave me this yogurt sake one time. It was literally just a yogurt drink that had sake in it and it was really good. But I imagine if you drank too much, you'd easily throw up. Yeah, I mean, you'd say that about anything. Well, milk, milk plus alcohol feels like a deadly combo. That feels like a combo asking for suffering. Yeah, but you can say that man, like if you drink like too much water you can throw up. Well, I mean, listen, I, I, I, you have to admit that it's easy to throw up on yogurt than it is. Yeah, obviously. Yeah. You know, you're like curdle and stuff. Yeah. I've seen, I've seen this guy that's being,

like recommended on my YouTube shorts recently and his entire channel is based around going to a bar and ordering the most expensive drink there. Okay. And then just making a cocktail out of that drink. Like it's like every time he goes up to the bar, he's like, how much is this, how much of this cost? And people are like, oh, this is like $200 a shot or something. God damn. And he's like, can I have that in a cocktail?

And I'm waiting for the one time there is going to be like a bar manager that says, fuck off. Well, I mean, probably have, but he probably just didn't upload it. Probably just caught them, yeah. When I was in Vegas, they went to this party and it was on some rooftop of a casino and yad, yeah, yeah. And it was an open bar.

So naturally, when you hear it's an open bar, you wanna order the most expensive thing on the menu because you're just like, I wanna see. Yeah. But I wanted the, they had a beer that costed $30. Like a, like a regular pint of beer. Just a normal beer. It costs $30.

And everything else was like, 10, 15, it's America, it's expensive. I was like, well, I want to see what the $30 beer is. And they pull it out, and it's like this tiny little beer, like this glass, kind of like a grenade stuff. Not even a pint? No, it's like 250, 300 mils. What the fuck?

And it's 14%. What's a wine? That's a wine. It's basically a wine, yeah. Well, actually, because when I went to Rotterdam and I tried wild beer, it was just wine. Yeah. Because I guess the way they ferment can be similar, I'm not sure.

But anyway, tried this beer, and I was like, I was in the guy, I was like, why is it so fucking expensive? He's like, ah, it's from Belgium and it's the highest grade of beer. And I was like, okay, no, no, no, no. Beer is not, beer is this every person's drink. This is not a thing that is meant to be turned into like a Louis Vuitton.

Like we're there as great beer, but beer should never be more than like $10 a pint. Sure. Okay, I mean, you know, obviously inflation and whatnot. But generally it's the staple alcohol. And that's when I just realized, man, every time I go to America, I find out, some new thing that's super expensive,

and I never heard about, because people just wanna feel like like they're buying the best, the best thing ever. But like legitimately though, I always- Oh, it's that blue one. It looks like that blue label on the- Oh, the very left? It looks very similar to that, but like small.

Whatever that was. It looks kinda like that. Shime-I-I don't know if it was that brand, but it was very small and it was a blue label. Maybe the view is in the- I mean, you can get a full pack for- I don't think it's that one. You can get a full pack for $28.

But I mean, I was in Vegas, so there's a high, chance this could be just a $10 beer where they've marked it up. Yeah, but that's the thing, right, is that like, whenever I see all of these, like, super expensive, like, whiskeys or wines or anything like that, like, I legitimately wonder, okay, does that price just come purely from, like, the fact that they're using, like,

the best grapes or the best ingredients or whatever it is, or is it just marketing? Marketing, generally marketing. It's got to be, right? Yeah, I mean, it's... Well, you know, like, the founder of, like, well, at least one of the co-founders or co-owners of, I don't know what the chain is called,

but basically the one who owns all the luxury brands, like Rolex, Louveton, why not. It's like the second richest man on earth. Yeah. Like, overtook Elon Musk at one point during the pandemic. Damn. Which just goes to show how much money is in these luxury goods things if it can make this one guy the richest man on up.

Because there's just way too much profit because these brands, they cost barely fucking anything. Yeah, that's true. Like they've seen those YouTube channels where they tear apart, like, coach or the big like fucking bags of coach He just ters them apart. Yeah, and then he's like, oh, this is probably $30. I know the exact guy you're talking about.

He literally just gets a coach bag, tears it apart, cuts it all off. And he's like, okay, this is good technique here, David Tesha, but he's some European dude. Yeah, a lot of the time these bags that cost $2,000 are literally like $40. Oh yeah, yeah, that includes like labor to build. Yeah, yeah.

What do you think is an expensive item that is actually worth the money? And is there anything that is worth? having a really big price tag on it. Because, you know, I feel like some, you know, some people can make the same argument maybe for technology as well. Because, you know, you see.

I don't know, I was gonna say technology to the answer to your question. Because I feel for the most part, like, you know, the, where it gets expensive is when you start to kind of go overboard with how much it's actually capable of. Whereas if you buy the stuff that just does what it's supposed to be, you know,

what's supposed to do, for example. Yeah. Then I think in, this day and age, it is pretty affordable for what it can do, right? Like a graphics card, for instance, is not that expensive unless you go, like, the really fucking...

No, no, no, no, I'm talking like... Yeah, I'm talking like, the really, like, fucking overkill ones, right? Where it's like, no, like, it's cool to have, but it's not, like, necessary to play the majority of games, right? Yeah, for streaming it's kind of... Well, for streaming, sure, you know,

but that's, but, you know, for a lot of people, that's like their job or their hobby, right? So they're willing to spend it on that. But even more so on, like, stuff like camera equipment, you know, which is in entire range of, hey, do you wanna just take a photo or video on your phone

versus buying 15 grand cameras? Yeah, exactly. Even then, it's like, that 15 grand is only a solid investment if you know what you're doing. But a lot of these camera companies now, they advertise saying, hey, dude, you're a great photographer. Yeah, exactly, exactly.

But I mean, they're getting really advanced. What's a good thing that's worth the money? Is there something that I've spent money on where I really feel like every dollar was worth it? A house. Oh, that's probably one of the... It goes to that level, you know, when we think about stuff like that, right?

Honestly, like, I got a really... We got all very nice desks, and I feel like they were very well for money. The standing desk. It sounds so stupid, but like, a fucking nice desk feels so fucking good. Yeah, totally. Stuff like that, where I'm like,

just little things and I'm like, my coffee machine. Actually, there we go. Worth every fucking dollar, dude. With every fucking dollar. That two grand that I spent on that thing, I think I've already saved two, on coffee I would have bought.

Sure, sure. I still haven't bought beans for it because people keep buying me beans for my birthday or not, so I still never bought my own beans. Well, that's what you're saving all the fucking money. Yeah, dude, so I'm like, and I, I had this big brain idea. I was like, man, I hate having coffee outside of my house now.

I was like, I hate buying a coffee, because I feel that like I have this machine that's great and I like the taste of it. I can make it the way I want. So I was like, oh, I should just fucking get a bunch of to go cups. Right. So I just, if I'm leaving the house now,

I'll just make a coffee in the morning, put it in the to-go cup and you'll just take it with me. A good office chair. I got a new office chair recently, which was not like a gaming chair. Yeah. And I don't know if I just got into that age,

but it has been... I wanted to get rid of my gaming chair as well. Yeah, like a proper ergonomic chair. Yeah, like a proper ergonomic chair. It was pretty damn expensive. Definitely more expensive than... Yeah, what's that... Herman Miller's one.

It's a Herman Miller one. Yeah, okay, okay. And literally sitting on that, you know, immediately you notice the difference in comfort, but it's definitely after you are sitting there for like eight to 10 hours during like a big grind session at work,

you're like, damn, okay, this is making a massive difference and I can only imagine how much that extrapolates over time. I'm definitely debating to get rid of my gaming chair and swabble with like an ergonomic one because it's like, at first it was cool, you know, when like, because when, I think when we all got one, it was kind of at the peak of like everyone was getting this, like, you know, big gaming chairs, but like, I don't know,

nowadays I sit on the thing and I'm just like, I don't know, man. This is not as comfortable in long, you know, long periods of time. I really, yeah, I think I really like mine, but I think that when I'm sitting in it for like 12 hours sometimes, I think it's just too much. Also it's a pain in the ass to clean.

I've never cleaned. That's a real gamer right there. You have to clean chairs? Wait, you clean your chairs? Yeah, I do. I've never cleaned my chair. Well, because like, because my gaming chair has like the-

Jacking off in it? No. I mean, yes, but. That's not a fucking lie? That was the biggest lie told on trash. He's jacking off. That's why he's cleaning it. It's not my number one position, but it's number two.

But like, you know how the gaming chair has like, you know, it obviously has like the neck pillow and then also has like the west wall. If you look behind those, like, it collects like a lot of dust and just gunk and shit. So you should probably check it out. Do you have the butt indent in your chair? Hell yeah, dude.

Hell yeah. I wanna, the only reason I really wanna get a desk chair, a different one is because I actually don't want one that goes all the way up. I kind of want one that's cut off of my shirt. off of my shoulders. Like these ones. Yeah, because when I was using a green screen,

it was really fucking annoying. Yeah. And I actually, I just think it looks nicer. Well, because it's in the shot. It's in the shot. Oh, okay. And the green screens are like here. Right.

Also, they take up so much goddamn space. Yeah, so I actually, I had an old one, similar size to the ones that we have upstairs. Yeah. And she's huge, huge, it was literally the biggest gaming chair available. And my mom called me up, and she was like, can we, can we get rid of it? Because it's still in the UK.

Right. And I was like, yeah, she's like, yeah, she's just in the way. And he's like, mom, it's okay. It's fine. It's fine. So she's getting rid of that. I don't know if she'll get money for it. We'll find out.

How much you think posture actually matters? Like, I know as an Asian parent, posture was drilled into me as a kid. But someone with bad posture, I think it's quite important. In the long run, it's definitely important. Yeah, I think it's very, very much. You don't want to end up like those Japanese people,

all people you see in the station every now. And I'm walking at like 90 degrees, you know? Oh God, yeah. Your posture is very important. Well, there's so many weird trends that are like being, you know, being like spread around now. Like, how the fuck did mewing start? Oh my God.

You know, you know, mewing? I don't know what that is. I just think of the Pokemon. What's mewing? Is that the way you like, uh, it's just with your mouth, right? No. Yeah, it's, it's, you have like, I think it's, you have certain exercises you can do of your mouth and tongue

that make your jawline more defined. Yeah, this just proved to not be, uh, effective by the way. This totally does not surprise me at all. So basically, you just- You wanna more defined jaw. Yeah, you wanna give a Chad chin, basically, sure. And so there was this trend that's being spread around where if you do certain exercises with your, like, your tongue,

if you're like, permanently like have your tongue, like, up on like the roof of your mouth, then you can train your jawline to be more defined, I guess. I never probably got into it, but I just saw a few videos about it. I'm like, why is this- Everything- Every viewer subconscious is doing it, me.

Yeah, yeah. Everyone's just, well, that is actually like a trick that I learned when I was doing like modeling stuff is that like to make the jawline seem really nice, you kind of stop yourself in like a mid swallow or like put your tongue on the roof of your mouth. And that way when you do that, naturally this bottom part goes up and so your jaw line looks more defined just for that split second.

Is your tongue not normally on the roof of your mouth? No, no. Oh, mine is. Really? Yeah, I normally rest it at the top. That's not resting. That's resting. How is that resting? You are- Yeah, like, because when you were talking about the whole time,

I was like, I think my, before you mentioned- So you are just a natural mewa? I guess I've been here. But my jawline- That's why his jawline is impeccable. Yeah. Well, no, the British, actually the British accent, the tongue is always at the top.

When you think about it, right? Americans, right? When you do an American action, you bring the tongue down, make it flatter. Right. So the American- Wait, is your whole tongue, like, flat on the roof of your mouth? Or is it just the, like, the tip of your tongue?

Mostly the tip. Yeah, I mean, that's the same with me. When you're resting, right? Yeah, like, it's like, yeah, it's always touching. Yeah, I've never really thought about it. But if you speak with American accent, normally you're, because if you ever try to do American accent,

the best way to do it is to bring your tongue back, flatten it and like make it wide. Oh, I guess it is. And then if you were to do a British accent, or I guess Australia, and you, you, like, your tongue kind of like goes like this. Right, right, right. It's like flat, British one goes up.

Well, that's what like, you know, like linguistics experts, like, British is just expert muets. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I guess so. Every British person has an impeccable.

Yeah, this is fucking dumb shit. I think it's like, no. And I've seen British people, so I know this is a, this is bullshit. This is bullshit theory now. Yeah, don't be British. There's a ton of people who look like the very left guy on the second row there.

Dude, I mean, I feel, I feel sorry people who don't have pronounced chins in a sense because they're just like, everyone on TikTok and whatnot is just being like, yeah, how to fix this. How to fix you? Yeah. If I have brown eyes, there's, or blue eyes, there's no, how to fix that.

Yeah. I think I'd be a bit, I'd be a bit pissed off. Yeah, it is kind of annoying. Because I've never looked at someone who has a face like that and thought like, oh, your face needs a fix up. Like, I don't give a fuck. Yeah, I literally never had that thought until TikTok started putting it in my head

that I should think about this. Yeah, and then I see people with it. And now I'm like, why the fuck is TikTok? You look at you meet someone like that and they're like, oh, you didn't meet. Like, I feel like, this is how we train people to be like racist in a way. We're just like keep exposing them to this idea

that this is bad. and they'll eventually learn it. Yeah, it's not bad, who cares. If you don't have a chin, hate it, hate them. Think that they look weak. They're terrible human beings. Tell them they're weird. It's like, what the fuck?

What is this? Well, it's kind of like all like the different rabbit holes you can go down because I didn't, I had no idea a lot of these things existed. And now the idea is just planted in my head. Yeah, me too. And you know, I feel this a lot sometimes where there is this thing that's, you know,

that is, you know, as a bad thing that I never really thought about. And now I'm thinking, well, I never really thought about it, but now that I'm thinking about it, I'm scared that I would, yeah, I'm scared about this idea. I had no idea this could be seen as a negative trait. Yeah, now I'm thinking about it. Is everyone thinking about it?

Yeah, exactly, exactly. And I'm like, what if I'm doing it without being intentional, you know? What if I do this into unintentional bad thing? And shit, I'm like, now I'm thinking about it. What if I'm just a bad person? No, man, you can't let that shit stop you from being you. Unless you are actually a bad person.

and you always stop. Okay, but we were meant to be playing some drinking games today. Okay, seems appropriate. Yeah, since we are drinking right now. Okay, really? Did you plan a bunch of games? No, I just thought we could play a drinking game,

a simple drinking game, truth or drink. Okay, easy enough. So we know each other pretty well, so I'm wondering how well we can. Wait, wait, so to re-cl clarify the rules, right? It's someone asked someone a question. Yeah, because you give me an example. Okay, actually, let's try an example right now.

And I guess we could do it for all of us. I guess we just say the truth or we drink. Okay. So, let's... I feel, though, I don't know how well this is gonna work with trash days, because we've already said a lot of person. Yeah, that's why. For the first question I got asked is,

who would you bring to you with you on a desert island? And I'm like, we've already had a desert island question. Yeah. Okay. What is the pettiest thing you've ever done? The pettiest thing? I've ever done. Have we ever done anything petty?

Have I ever done anything? I've definitely done something petty. I know you have. Out of all of us, I feel like you would have done something petty. I'm trying to think if I've ever done anything petty. I don't know if I've, because like, I don't know, maybe, because like, it's hard because to me it might not seem petty, but to someone else it might be petty, right? So it's like, to me it might just be like, oh yeah, I just like did this.

that normal thing because I just thought it was normal. What have I done as petty? Can you ever think of anything petty, like just casually that you've done? Casually? I don't know because. Oh, okay, I know one. And I'm not gonna drink, I can tell the truth of this.

Right. But the petty thing I've probably ever done, and I know a lot of people are gonna find this petty, but like one of my biggest pet peeves, right? I don't have a lot of pet peeves. But one of my biggest pet peeves, ever since I was in high school was when, someone is wearing the shirt of a band

that they have no idea who they are. This is the most Joey thing out. This is already pretty petty Joey. Like there was a moment, I remember in like the early 2010s especially, when like Hot Topic had this thing where like, you know, they were selling a bunch of like different band t-shirts

of like classic bands or like, you know, bands we grew up with and stuff like that. And one shirt I kept seeing all the goddamn time was like shirts that just had like a big face of Kurt Cobain on it. Yeah. Right. And I'm like, all right, yeah, you know, they were a really, you know, famous band, loved band. That's cool. I love them too. It's whatever. But then it gets really annoying. I remember there was this one time where a friend of mine was wearing, like, we went out to this party and a friend of mine, who was a girl, was wearing this Kokobain shirt. And it was really surprising to me because I didn't expect her to be like a fan of like Nirvana or like listening or Kokobain stuff. So naturally, you know, as like an icebreaker type thing, I went up to her and I was really. And I was. was like, oh shit, nice shirt. And she was like, oh, thank you.

And I'm like, oh, do you like Nirvana? What's your favorite song? And she dead-ass looked at me and went, what's Nirvana? So what did you do? So I just walked away. I just, I, and then I just was bitching to my friends being like, why would you, because if you're wearing a shirt

like that, to a fan, that is an invitation for you to like connect with that, with what you think is like a common, you know, like for something. but the fact that you're wearing this shirt and you don't even know who Nirvana is, let alone who Kurt Cobain is. Just feel like you're gonna put someone's face on your body, you should at least know who's-

Yeah, exactly. Like, and it's like, you know, and if that like particular band or artist or whatever is someone who like, you know, maybe a lot of people don't like, I don't know, if someone was wearing like a fucking Imagine Dragon's shirt, I wouldn't give a shit because that's what they like.

But like, don't fool me into thinking that you like the same thing that I do, and yet you don't. So I, so, So whatever, so that's, I would say, for some people, is like petty, I would say. That's probably the pettiest things I've done. That's the, that's the hipster musician.

Yeah, as the hipster musician nerd in me, I can't forgive that. So don't fucking do that. Because I will call you out if you do shit like that. Have you ever had any petty moments? I've had so many, but I'm trying to think of the house. Well, what was the one that you were thinking of? Huh?

I literally can't think of anything. No, no, for Connor, I mean. For Connor? I don't know. You said he seems like something. Well, a lot of the times, if someone- What is a gamer? If someone just says something

and it pissed me off, or they're wrong or they like try to, like if someone, I, in the past, I've definitely done this where someone's, like, lorded over that they know more about something than me or whatever. Yeah.

Or they, you know, ex-opinion this. I'll just, I'll just, if like, they think that, there's like a few occasions where someone is saying like, oh, you don't know, this game is better than this one.

And so I'll just play, the entire game just to like hours or whatever. Or if someone tells me that like X game is harder. Yeah. I think in the past I've, again, I think Halo. Is that why you decided to play Final Fantasy seven? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that was pure pettiness.

So I could accurately talk shit. Right. You know, same reason I toured the entirety of America with you guys. Oh, that's true. So I could shut Americans down. I guess in a sense, that was the petties thing we've done. Yeah. That was a pretty petty.

Like if someone tells me that like their game is hard and they're like insistent on it. And I'm like, I don't think it is. I will just play that game and learn it and get a higher rank than them just out of spite. Just to be like, that's so true actually, because now- Out of like, just shut up.

So you're bad at this game, you're bad at the thing you like, I'm better and I know more than you. Shut up. That's Pady. Because every time I go back to Wisconsin now and just have like a drink with a bunch of, you know, Sydney's friends or people around there and they start talking about America, I'm like,

oh, you know about America? All right, tell me. Yeah, tell me. I'll show you what the real opinion is America. But yeah, that's pretty much here. I'm gonna take a drink because I can't think of anything too petty. Oh, there was one thing I did do.

This guy, I don't know if it's petty. This guy, this guy took, stole, my little brother gave his Xbox account away. I told you about this one time, I think. He gave it to this hacker and I couldn't do anything to help him get it back, so it's gone. But he played a lot of cot. And this is back in the day on Cod,

where if you were in someone's lobby, you could join off of their account based off recent players. Right, right. So I spent like a week just going into games and just finding him and killing him, like nonstop for like a week. So just piss him off in the hopes

that he eventually gave him back. It didn't work, but I'd like to imagine that I annoyed him. Yeah. But for like a week straight, for like a total of like 40 hours, I must have just been going in this guy's games, just following him and killing him.

And whenever he was trying to talk in the lobby, I would tell people what he was trying to do. Is that petty or is that, That's just toxic. Well, he stole the account, so I'm just a dick. So I feel like it doesn't count as pettiness because it was deserved, but also very petty for me to waste all my time.

I mean, yeah, that's true. But it was fun hearing the guy get angry. I do enjoy doing this. That was very fun. Oh, I have done something petty. I guess it's pretty petty. But I remember in like the first year of university. I was, so this was like at the end of first year, right?

And I didn't really try in the first year. And I'm that kind of guy. who, this is gonna sound really fucking stupidly, you know, overconfident, but I just, I guess I figured out how to just score well on exams. I wouldn't say I'm smart, but I always, I think you had a game the system, you studied.

Not necessarily studied, it's like, I kind of, I'm just a genius. No, no, no, I min-max the amount of efforts I needed to do to put to get a respectful grade without doing as much effort. So most of the time, that just meant revising, the day before the exam. Yeah, right.

It works, sure. For most exams. And I remember I had a mate who, uh, who was one of those, uh, she was, she was one of those girls who had to like study for weeks before an exam and still, you know, kind of got a respectable, but like passing grade. Right. And I remember the first year, um, she, because we, we took, we both took engineering courses. And she was like studying weeks for this exam, right?

And she kept asking me, hey, are you gonna study? You're gonna study? I'm like, no, I think I'm, I think I'm good. I think I'm good. I'm gonna wait till the final day. I wait till the final day and study one day. I got over 70% on that exam, which in English universities is like a first degree. You need to get over 70%.

And I remember, I remember she got a 2-1, which was like a 60 to 70% and she started her ass off and she was like so pissed off at me. And she was like, bro, this is like the first year. You cannot fucking get away with this for all of your university years. And then I did.

Throughout the university years, at the end of every year, I would get above 70% and I'd be like, Gigi easy. Like every year I'd send it to it. And the last year, the last year, when I did my master's degree, I didn't study one day.

I studied like two days before the final final exam. What a hard worker. And I remember getting my result for that, I got 69.5% which got rounded up to a first degree. And the first person I sent it to was not my parents, but it was to this friend, because I still remember the one time she said that to me. And that is probably the pettiest thing I've done.

Yeah. I mean, the universities where you get humble and you realize you're not smart. Yeah. Because you're like, oh, I'm in the fifth best university. That means there are five whole classes or years of people that are better than me. Yeah.

The subject. I don't know, man. As someone who during university was a lot like your friend, where I would study my ass off and get like okay grades, I would have fucking hated you. Some people are just way better at retaining information. I just, I don't know what it is. I'm the kind of person who, like, during class, like,

say for example, like during high school, right? Like, I perform really well in class. but I absolutely suck at exams. Like, I don't know why, like the moment I answer, maybe it's the pressure of being in like an exam environment, but like the moment I sit down to do like an exam of whatever it is, everything I thought I knew just goes out the window.

Yeah. And I'm like, I should know this. Like I answered these fine in the classroom setting. Why is it that when suddenly it's a test, I just forget everything. Stage five. The one time that I'm supposed to perform well and I don't and I always fucking flunk it.

That's why I barely past university. Yeah. Alright, well, that wasn't the hard one. I think I drank five times in between. Yeah, I think that's what's gonna happen. Have you ever been arrested? No, right? No. No. You got deported.

You got deported. It's kind of arrested. Well, I didn't get arrested. I have a criminal record. It's a different story. It's not, it's not an arrest. All right. Okay, which one of these have we not answers? When was the last time you wanted to hit somebody? Every episode, every episode.

Wanted to hit somebody? But I have no enemies, except the time. Like when I was a kid, like never. Not since I like had. When was, yeah, when was the last time you did then? Because I know you went through the whole fight club phase. Yeah, that was it. I haven't wanted to fight anyone since.

Well, he got all those urges out. I wanted to watch someone get hit, but not me. Do it myself. Yeah, I'm like, I'm good. Yeah, I think the only time I had that urge was when I actually did it. And that was to my school bullet. Which is a justified reason. Which is a justified reason.

When do you kind of think like you calmed down though from your... Like right after that? Like I felt like, I felt zen. I felt peaceful about it. I was ready to throw hands but I was like, I'm good.

He depleted his rage me. I love getting angry at stuff but I don't... But not to the point where you get physical. No, no. I feel like that's a sign of weakness. I agree. Because you can't,

why can't you just control yourself? Fight with words. Yeah, control yourself. Yeah. You know? I think it's like a weak and childish way of handling situations if you lash out.

Yeah, totally. Yeah. And if you are the kind of person that hits people or wants to hit people, I think that you should- Go-in-or boxing gym. Yeah, dude, go do some contact sports. But even then, that's not really the philosophy they try to teach them.

It's not get, not punch people, it's hey, discipline, learn how to fight, be respectful. Yeah. I mean, contact sports are very, very respectful generally. Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, that's where I feel like you get to control your rage and your anger because- Yeah. I don't know.

I, it's weird for me because I'm, you know, generally, a calm person, but sometimes, do you guys have like this, this kind of like mental block when it comes to just screaming, I know you don't, screaming at your full, like full volume? At people I do, but at the camera now. Yeah.

Well, like I would never wanna scream at someone. Have you ever done that? When I was younger, yeah, haven't done it a long time. Yeah, I think I'm one of those people where the angry I get, the quieter I get. Yeah, that's true, actually, yeah. Like when I'm actually, when I see people, people get like mega angry and they start like screaming and yelling.

I'm just like how can you do that? Because I feel when I get like really really angry. Yeah. I'm so frustrated inside my head that I don't, I can't even muster up the energy to like talk at a normal volume. You know, I'm like, I'm almost whispering when I'm like really angry. Or I just don't talk at all. Yeah.

You know, because I'm so like in this like cloud of like frustration. Yeah. So yeah, I don't know. I don't really get the urge to like, the only time I get the urge to like scream and shout is when I get like really really drunk or I'm at a karaoke. I've only like, I've only like screamed a few times out of pure anger.

Yeah. And I don't know, I don't like the feeling. It's, no, it's, this is gonna sound so weird. It's, it's kinda like, it's kinda like busting a nut, but you realize you just jacked off to the most decrepit shit of all the time. Like the few, because the few times that I have not been able to control, I think, I think it's the feeling of like,

I have not been able to control it. And I think it's only how, happened literally once in my life. And happened once. And then I was like, I don't ever want that to happen again because I just felt like I was just out of control of my own anger. Yeah.

Something about the mental imagery of like finishing jacking off to like the most decrepit shit and then standing up with your dick in your hand and be like, no! Can we get rid of this Mr. Bean ass looking dude? Yeah. That's pissing me off. Thank you.

All right, see the next one. Yeah. What is the weirdest thing you've ever said to a strange? I don't know what the weirdest thing I've ever said, but hanging out with Sydney is just like, all you can need to fail about some of the weirdest shit you could ever say to a person. Such as?

Where do I start? I need to hear some examples. I mean, I know Sydney well enough where I kind of can guess what you would say, but sometimes she says some things where it's like. So this is before, I guess, oh my God, I'm right. Okay, this is before Sydney moved, before we moved to Japan.

Yeah. Right. And so we're in Thailand, right? And so I think we're about to move to Japan and Sydney was like, oh, I'm going to practice my Japanese as much as possible as, you know, we kind of try and do. And so we were in this bar, right? And we were pretty wasted at the time. And Sydney, when she's pretty wasted, let's her intrusive thoughts just take over every single time. So it was kind of a loud bar and we were sitting at this bar and this other couple sat next to us.

And, you know, Sydney just looked at them and just said, ah, can itchua. Which, number one, number one, number one, it's just like that's a big assumption. Yeah. And the couple next to us just replied, oh, sorry, we're not Japanese. And then Sydney, out of embarrassment, did not know how to react. So she dabbed.

She just, she just went like that. Like that. Sydney is just not a real person. Like what the fuck is that? And the couple looked at each other. And then let's just, What was she expecting the response to be after that? Like you just fucking dab, what were they gonna do?

Like, that is insane. Okay, I omitted a pretty important piece of information. So it was in Izakiya and like Thailand that we were sitting next to. So there was, I mean, because only Japanese people go. Yeah, no, no, no, exactly. So there was a mental reason why she said that, I guess, but. That's like, there's such a bold shot to shoot.

And then the response to that emergency situation was very bold. And yeah, and I guess that's become a core memory of life. Yeah, I think that would be a core memory for me as well. All right, well, what's up next then? What's up next? No. What's the weirdest thought you've ever had

sitting on the toilet? Oh, where the fuck do I start? I don't know, I feel like I get most of my weird thoughts and just weird takes, just sitting on the toilet I don't remember any. Yeah, because you don't sit on the toilet for a long time at all. I wouldn't remember where I had a specific thought.

You remember where you have thoughts? Not really. I don't remember, do you? Sometimes. Like rarely though, right? Do you ever note down your thoughts? No. I mean, only if I think it can turn into a video.

Yeah, if I know it's important. And that's usually as I'm kind of drifting off to sleep because that's when all the weird ideas come to my head. I write them down to my notes. I go to sleep. I wake up the next morning and look at the notes and go, these are all stupid. And I just delete all. I don't know. I was going to say this thing like it's like a fucking groundbreaking things. But since Trash Taser started, I've been, I guess, noting down little things that have happened during my day. Sometimes if something interesting happens during a day. And then I realized, oh, wait, that's not a fucking groundbreaking thing. I'm just starting a diet.

I thought, but like since I've been doing that, I've realized how many little interesting tidbits happened in my life that I've just completely forgot about. And I realize, because I've been one of those guys that I just always forget to take pictures. And I want to take more pictures, like going forward in the future, because there are so many things that I want to remember as I'm like going forward,

as I'm like going forward. And I always assume, eh, someone else is gonna take a picture of it. Yeah. It'll be fine. But then the more the life goes on, the more I realize, I don't, I'm so shit at retaining information and memories. Totally. Totally.

Like I don't remember half of the places we went to on the America tour. I don't remember half of last year. Right? Like legit. I have either like perfect memory of a situation or no memory. There's no in between. Yeah. Well, I think that's where the whole like, you know,

uh, stereotype of like boys nights versus girls nights like happens right where it's like you know if your partner goes to a girls night they come home and you ask them oh so what did you guys talk about and they can tell you everything and like the tiniest information like as if you were there boy comes back from a boy's night and the girl asks like oh what did you guys talk about and the guy goes i don't remember all right jerry last time last time the last night out that we miss was probably the geeks plus party okay what are you guys talking about there uh uh you got all the boys are geeks plus joey You had a night with each other, Joey.

What are you guys talking about? What are we talking about? I mean, dudes will- Kai, do you remember? Guys will not see- Kai, do you know? Guys will not see each other for a year and then when they meet up,

they won't talk about what's happening like, they'll be like, yo, do you see the new fucking magic to gathering? Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And they'll literally talk about that. We're so bad at telling other people what's been happening in our life. Like literally the only time I ever do that now is on trash taste.

Yeah. Or like, if I'm talking to argue. Other than that, like if I met up with like, you know, a guy friend from, I haven't seen in like three, four, five years. Yeah. Like I'm not gonna, I'll maybe, you know, just to get the conversation going, talk about like what I've been up to. But then it quickly devolves into like, yo, did you see this meme?

Yeah. I think that the guys generally tend to lean towards wanting to share experiences as opposed to share, like, sharing stories or personal feelings on something. Which is admittedly something that I think that more guys, you know, should incorporate. We should talk more about our feelings or whatnot. But I think often guys just default to let's do something together,

be it drinking, doing sports, just because that's just how guys generally are. Totally. It's also like, I've, you know, I've had some like deep talks with guys before. Yeah, of course, yeah. And it's so weird because it's not like, I remember how meaningful the deep talk was

and, you know, some of the things I say, but me trying to describe it. So sometimes I have this like deep, meaningful talk with some of my guy friends and I'll tell Sidney, oh yeah, I talked about this thing. and she'll be like, oh, what did you guys say? And like, in the moment, I'm like, um, I can give the gist of it.

He was sad. And I said things that made him better. We just resort to like two IQ. When it comes to like talking about like the actual details of shit, we just know like how it started and how it ended. God, when you went home from school, right, did your parents ask you, oh, what did you do today? Oh, all the time.

And I was just like, how was school? Yeah, how was school? That was always the question. What did you say? Did you ever have a, no, it was always, okay. Was there one time in your life that you actually said something meaningful in the, yeah, I did something exciting at school,

I did, we did this, we did that. I'm sure I did, but do I remember any other? No. Because sometimes I have like, I have a tour, you know, it continues now to this day when I phone my parents and they're like, oh, have you been doing anything interesting? What have you been up to?

We haven't talked for a while. And I'm like, I've been, Good. Meanwhile, we filmed like some fucking insane videos on trash tastes, we've like toured all over America. And they asked me, oh, was there anything interesting and happened to happen in America? Yeah.

I could not tell them a single fucking thing. I was like, did I, well, is it on camera? The more you have those experiences, the more you kind of start labeling them as ordinary. Yeah, exactly. And your brain kind of starts forgetting them. So it's something that would seem, that would previously have been kind of like huge life events,

kind of just become a drop in the water. Yeah, that is true. Like I was going to film something in Australia. Like that, I'm sure that at one point in my life would have been an insane memory I couldn't forget. Yeah, for sure, for sure. And now it's just another one to add to the list. Which is sad, but also cool that you get to have

so many cool experiences. Yeah, I think like it kind of, it's this weird like, cash 22 of like the more of those kinds of experiences you have, the less like each one of those maybe individual experiences, maybe don't get ingrained into your mind as often as it should. Yeah. But at the same time, the greater your overall experience becomes with just like everything you've done.

But the first few I still remember very vividly. Which ones? The first few big experiences of reviews traveling. I remember very clearly. What was your first one? I mean, alone, because I used to always travel up with my parents, but the first real big experience I had was I went to Anime Expo when I was like 18 or 19.

Right. 19 or 20? No, no, I could drink so I was 21. No, I lied. I remember I was 20. Yeah, I lied. Yeah, I bullshitted a lot. Yeah.

Which is a crime, federal crime. No, I was 20 when I went to AX the first time. And yeah, I remember that was like the really, like, I remember a lot of stuff very vividly because it was like my first time ever. Yeah, yeah. Going to a foreign country alone, especially so far away.

So I've never been to, I didn't even been to America once at that point. It was like when I was like 12, so it didn't be. Right. And it was with your family, right? Yeah, no, it was a school trip. Oh, school trip. Yeah, very different. Yeah, but like sometimes we can have like a big event

and I remember the most random thing from that thing. That's not the big thing. Like, you know, remember when we went to Hawaii, and we did all that, you know, exciting things in Hawaii. I only remember writing the moment. Do you know what I remember? I just, for some reason, the core memory from that trip is just watching Lord of the Rings with you boys in the hotel room.

Out of everything that I did, out of everything that I did, that's how you know, that was quality boys time. I was like, out of everything we did, that was the one thing I remember. You cannot take away watching Lord of the Rings with the Boys. That is a core memory. Lord of the Rings is a core memory in and of it. Yeah.

That was, what a fucking great film. Yeah, I know. That was a good night though. Hang on a mate recently, and he just said the most, like, he just had a line that just like, I don't know, it just encapsulated the feeling where, you know, we're having a fun time, we're just vibing, and he was just like, oh man, this is fucking core memory shit right now.

And I'm like, fuck. You can't say that in the moment. I don't know. You're like, that's like you almost putting in on you. Yeah, that's pretty pressure. You're like, this is not a canon event for me. If you don't remember this. I will be sad.

I don't know who you are. As soon as, no, it's, it works. Because as soon as he said that, I think about that moment, all of the time. Well, that's like saying, that's like if I were hung out and I said, gone, I love you. Like, sincerely, you would remember that.

Cause you'd be like, why did he say that? Like, why? I wanna go up to a stranger on the street and just go, this is a real core memory moment right now. See if they remember. I wanna use that line more in my vocabulary now. If I'm just having a fucking great time, if I just say, oh man,

this is fucking core memory. Call memory. Yeah. You can't say that. You're putting the onus on the other person to have a cool memory. Fuck off. I wish I said that at my wedding day. Me in front of the hotel with Sydney,

I just step. This is your core memory. During your speech, I stand out and thank you for coming to my wedding. This is a real core memory moment right now. I'm like, look Sydney on the eye. I'm like, Sydney, this is core memory shit right down. That's so evil.

Yeah. What is the earliest memories you guys have? We have, we've spoke of this on Trash Tase. Have we? Yeah. I remember because I complained. It was a core memory moment, you don't remember? Yeah, I'm wondering, I literally explained

that I couldn't fucking remember anything from like before age 12. The mine is, yeah, I mean, I'm pretty sure I've said this on the podcast already, but mine was when I was five years old and I got lost in Norsocket. Yeah, yeah, more specific question. Okay, you gotta mix it up gone.

Yeah. We're using content. This gonna sound so weird, right? Um, do you have any core memories regarding The Simpsons? Hell yeah. Because, hell yeah, I do. What does that mean?

Okay, because I was, I was, okay, so this is like, this is one random scene, right? Because I was hearing this piece of music and it was classical gas. Yeah. And I was just like, oh shit, I remember this song from The Simpsons. It was this random fucking episode. Right. And I was like, oh my God, I got to search this up because I, for some reason,

there was just this one very quick scene where Lisa plays the guitar and then Lenny goes, oh, can you play classical gas? And that is, and she starts playing classical. and I was like, I don't know why that memory sticks out to me so much, but I searched it up. And then I go to like the comments, because apparently a lot of people remember this scene and one of the top comments was like,

this scene is a core memory for me. And I'm like, holy shit, what? Me too. The only core memory I have with The Simpsons was, so we had, in my room, we had basically my dad's, like, hand me down like CRT TV, right? That he obviously replaced when, you know, the flat screen,

and LEDs came out, but he held on to the CRT for the longest time. And I wanted to have it in my room so that I could watch like Simpsons and Future I'm with my sister. Yeah. So we would have this CRT in my room. And it was those like old CRTs where like it had the really, really long like antennas. And like literally it was so bad that one of us during an entire episode, we would take it in terms for our episode to like hold the antenna in like the correct position to get the best reception.

It's real ghetto shit. But I have a core memory. some reason of, I don't even remember what episode it was or like if this is even a real quote, but I think it's Barney saying just in a really, really sad voice, he just says, I fell into the toilet. I don't know.

I just remember watching that with my sister while holding up this antenna in my room and we're just pissing ourselves laughing. And then from then on, every time one of us went to the toilet, We just come out of the toilet, and we just go, I fell into the toilet. I've ever had that experience where you're watching something,

like, old like The Simpsons, and you watch an episode, and then, like, as you're watching it, maybe a vague scene that you remember somewhere in the crevice of your rain. Yeah, yeah. Kind of gets like, re-memorized almost, because you're watching it, and you're like, oh, this is the part that I weirdly vaguely remember. Yeah, totally.

I always hate that. Oh, no, like, like, To this day, you hate it? You hate it? Why? Because I feel like it kind of like reminds me how, at this moment, how weird and fucked up my brain is, where you store these weird pieces of useless information. Right.

You don't mean anything and potentially don't mean anything your entire life and you have this brief moment of euphoric discovery where you remember where it's from. And you're like, why is my brain program like this? Yeah, also it's like, you asked that question, like, why is it this that I remember? Yeah, like, it's frustrating because you're like, Why is such an intense feeling of relief memorizing this thing

that I had no memory of really, but it's subconsciously there and I have some kind of brief flashbacks or something. It's weird, it freaks me out. Yeah, for the longest time, I, for the long's time, the lyrics of jingle bells for me was jingle bell, Batman smells, Robin Lays an Egg. And for the longest time, I didn't know

that the Simpsons had programmed that into my mind, right? Yeah. Did you watch the Tom Scott video about it? Wait, wait. I didn't know. Wait, did the Simpsons create that? Wait, no, no, no, no. Okay, this is great.

Tom Scott made a video about this, about how, depending on, I guess, which country you're from, and whatever, there's like, there's like 20 different versions of this. People have thought were the version. Yeah, because you said Robin Layson Egg. Yeah, Robin Layton Egg.

For me, it's Robin Laid an egg. It might be laid an egg. Uh, yeah. You should, you should go watch Tom Scott video. Blow your mind. It's literally like a weird kind of collective misremembering to the point where everyone for some reason has a different thing

that they remember. Yeah. Mandela effect. But not even like that, it's like weirder than that because that's like everyone agreeing to misremember. This is everyone remembering a completely different thing. Yeah, but actually no, I remember because I think I remember that Simpson's episode. It was fucking, what's his name?

Bart. No, no, it wasn't Bar. I think that was the most popular one, but there's a bunch of other ones. No, it was that episode where, what's the bully character in the Simpson? Nelson, it's when Nelson falls in love with Lisa. And he's-

Fucked you, And he takes her back to his like, Crap Shack house and like, and Lisa sees like the guitar on the wall and he's like, oh, can you play? And Nelson's like, yeah, she's kinda. And he's like, oh, can you play me something? And he's like, all right.

And he grabs the guitar, he goes, Jingle bells! And he just starts singing that version of Jingle Bell. That's another core memory of the Simpsons that I have. I don't remember why I remember that episode. I swear to God, there's so many core memories to do with The Simpses that I just forgot about. So many.

Until you just see this random thing. And you're like, that reminds me of something from that I saw years ago from The Simpsons. Yeah, totally. I'm related to this beer sounds like something America would try to ban. We got a band named EuroHops. We don't wanna no EuroHops in our great American states.

Euro-Up, where's the AmeriHop? Do you guys have any childish, no, childhood TV shows that you completely forgot that you watched and were like obsessed with for a while? Because I forgot this. Such a specific question. No, because, okay, number one, we watched, I'm sure we watched a lot of things,

when we were kids, right? I kind of realized how much we don't remember, because obviously we remember the Simpsons. And I remember Connor mentioning something called Land Before Time, and he was like, we didn't have that in the UK. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, wait, I was obsessed with Land Before Time.

I was, I- The Dinosaur. The dinosaur, yeah, yeah, yeah. Did they have that in Australia? We had it in Australia, I didn't really grow up watching it though. Right, I was definitely on TV. It wasn't my favorite show though. Yeah, I remember as a kid, I watched the Land Before Time.

I don't remember, a single fucking thing about this, by the way. All I remember is owning all of the VHSs and I would like watch it on repeat. Probably why you know, because I mean, I, admittedly, I was glued to the TV as a kid. Yeah, and I'd never heard of this until I was like 20. Land Before Time? Yeah, never seen it before.

Really? You've never seen like the dinosaur? I swear it never aired on UK TV. I could be wrong. Maybe, actually, this is a great question. Did land before time? I swear to God it did. 20 years ago? Yeah, we're gonna check our memory now. Yeah. Did land before time? Maybe the viewers can also express if they're- Also, it might be an age thing as well because-

It could be, I know it's a little old. But like they never stopped, like, they used to play, you know, Wallace and Gromit, which was quite old and they used to replay that all the time and other stuff. I had all the VHS of that. Walls and Grom-I actually re-watched Walson

a week ago. Like the original show? I watched the wrong trousers. Oh, that's a great one. Because I kept seeing the penguin on Twitter. Yeah. And I was like, wait, it's like a 30-minute, like, film.

And I was like, fuck it. I was watching it. 30 minutes. That's such a good one. The first 2007, this was a TV series. There was no way. Later aired on Boomerang in the UK in 2007. There is no way it aired for the first time in 2007.

That must be different land. Isn't that a show from like the 90s? Yes, 1980s. 80s. Yeah, it's so old. Yeah, Walson Grummer, it's fucking fire. I rewatch it and it was fucking amazing. Curse of the Weir Rabbit as well as the great one.

Yeah, I was like these are all, like this is just straight bangers. Yeah. These are, these still hold up today. Oh, totally. And like I definitely, I definitely, I definitely felt that as well when like I watched the new Chicken Run movie, the Chicken Run 2. Is it good?

It's actually really good. Fuck, I wanna watch it. Yeah, like, I was surprised. I thought, cause like, it's been like, what, 20 years, over 20 years since the first one. And the first movie is so damn good, so I was like, oh, I hope this doesn't suck, but it was actually pretty good. They just, the claymation is just so expressive.

Oh, Ardman is goaded, bro. Yeah, and the little details they put in there, is just fantastic. So good. Do you guys remember recess at all? Was that my generation? No, yeah, I remember recess. Yeah. Whilst you're on bodies it.

Sorry, yeah. Oh, a kind of an obscure show that I don't know anyone else who knows it or even watched it. Maybe it was only in Australia. Yeah. Was the show called Angelina Anaconda? What?

Angelina Anaconda. Do you remember? I remember this. The newspaper cutouts? Yeah, yeah. Oh my God, I'm so glad you know. Wait, wait, I think I've done it in British TV as well. Did they?

Yeah, yeah. Was it a British show? But that show, oh my God, I was obsessed with that show. Oh, I remember I watched, okay, you shouldn't like to call memory. What is it like Jake Long American Dragon? Did you watch this church?

Is that what it's called? What? Oh my God, dude, Angelo and Anaconda looks fucking... Angela Anaconda, excuse me. Do you know the cool memory you have with this show? What? Do you know the cool memory you have with this show? What?

Which sounds like a fucking fever dream right now. But I remember, I knew about this, but then I remember renting the Digimon movie from Blockbuster. Yeah. And the intro of the DGivor Digimon movie is Angelina Anaconda. Oh really?

Or just like an episode of it. I, it was, it was a, what the fuck is that? Yes, I do know this show. Yeah. Because this came out of the exact same era as the Jackie Chan cartoon. Yeah.

Remember that? Oh my God, the Jackie Jack. You remember this one? Holy fuck, I remember this show. I had a DS game of this and it was fucking awful. I remember I played the DS game. It was fucking dog. I remember my friend. who was obsessed with Ben 10, love this show.

They were all the same era. Yeah. But Ben 10 was actually the fire show though. Benton was so good. Oh my God, I'm trying to remember this show. Like, okay, explain to me because this is, this is a very much a core memory for me. Because it was how I started, like, appreciating

the fucking best thing, which is emo girls. And I remember this is one of my first childhood crushes. Okay. Right. Um, it's, it was this cartoon and it's a detective kind of cartoon. I believe it aired on like the Disney Channel. and there was like an emo girl and like a black guy and it was kind of,

oh, so, so, search up emo girl black guy cartoon. Mike Tyson cartoon? No, no, no. There was a, it was like a detective, detective girl, cartoon. There's like a TV show with, uh, no, fuck. Oh, there's a-film more. That is it, it's film.

Film, oh, I know, I know. I know the name. Yeah. I know the name. Yeah. I never watch it. Detective series of Mike Tyson's like a Scooby-Doo-esque knockoff and it's like, adult swim though. I don't remember that. Yes. I've seen this. I don't like remember much about it. Wait, that was your first child who crushed? Yeah. That was my first bad girl, man. I understand. All right, that's valid. That's valid. Oh my God. This is, this is taking me back, man. We are old. We are old. We are old. Kids today are looking at It doesn't be like, what the fuck is this shit? I'm wondering, yeah, he only went on for two years. Oh, damn. 2002, 2004, geez.

Okay, for the next question. What is the most embarrassing thing you've ever posted on social media? Fuck, I mean, every early video. Yeah. I mean, I mean, yeah, first few years of my career. I mean, I'm gonna be real. There's a segment of the Maid Cafe special

that we did that I just, I haven't been able to watch it all through. What, which part? The one where we were, we were in the maid cafe. And you boys, when we all ordered different things. Oh, you did the Nyan, yon. And I had to do a fucking Eldrich chant

to like, to like, summon the Moe in this fucking cup or whatever. Yeah. And it is, it is actually, because by the time we're filming this, the main special just came out. It's really funny looking through the comments. And so- The main special is already out, Jerry.

No, that's what I'm saying. It's out by the time we're filming this. But it's really funny looking through the comments and just so many people being like, I love you guys, but I can't watch this. It's too cringe. I'm like, I get it, it's whatever. How do you think we felt?

Okay, pre- YouTube though. Pre-U-U-T-U-T-U-T? Yeah. Well, I had like a, do you remember this website called Bebo? I was about to. Oh my God, holy shit. See, I didn't, I knew about Bebo,

but I didn't have an account. Yeah, I had like a fucking banner. It was like, Flowrider. It was like me thinking I was like, I was trying to be like cool. I thought it was like sexy. I posed a pig, and I was like,

And it was like some kind of fucking, it was one of those, when you open up to your mate's page, it was blast the fucking music they chose. Oh yeah, that was my Myspace page. Whatever kind of like fucking flashy effects they put on that, it was fucking horrific. But you guys, it was Bebo, for me it was MySpace. Well, it was like, it was like,

We had MySpace and Bebo. Bebo was kid friendly MSN. Oh, I see. But maybe a little too kid friendly. I know, it was a fucking dog shit side, but I remember even like four years back, I was like, it's gone, right? It's scrubbed.

It doesn't exist right now. Thank fuck for that. I really hope so, because mine was cringe as fuck. Looking back, because I just tried to make myself seem really, really fucking cool. And like, during, like, I just, the one thing I remember was, I thought this was so cool when I was like,

fucking 15 or whatever how old I was, but during like the, during like the sex, like, like, segment where it was like male-female, I just put yes, please. And I was like, motherfucker, that's the funniest shit. That's the funniest shit.

He's a fucking comedian. Everyone's gonna see that and be like, yo, he's cool, man. To be fair, that's still funny. I mean, we laughed. Maybe we're just children. The idea of a 19 old gonga and yes, please. Meanwhile, his hair is spiked up,

but he's about to record a video about why you should watch Mirai Nikki. Actually, I think it's more interesting to ask. What's the most embarrassing, or you feel is the most embarrassing thing you've ever posted as a YouTuber or crazy? I actually know, now I remember, and one that I can definitely say with full confidence

is not even before that. It was my sort of online review I wrote on my website. This is still up? I don't know. I think the website's gone because I- I'd kill for a reading of it. I think I, because I did it on, what was it, like WordPress or one of those like, you know,

third party website companies. And because I stopped paying, I think they just took down the website. But yeah, that was when I gave sort of line a 9.5 out of 10. And that was pretty, what the whole season was great? It was pretty fucking embarrassing, Joey.

I think, again, I've said this in videos, but I think I was just like, I was swallowed up by the hype. The hype was crazy. That it just like, and also at the time. What happened with your opinion of Sword Arteline? Oh, I watched the rest of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I watched the second half of Sawdine and it was gone. No, I mean, I think we forget how cool sort of Al-A-Lan was. Oh, we know, it is still there. Holy shit. Oh, yeah, here it is. Oh my god. Whoa, I haven't seen this. Oh wow, I'm surprised.

Okay, yeah, look up sort online. Oh my God. There it is. Oh my God. When was this posted? How long is this review? It's not long. Wait, is there replies?

Go down, go down to the bottom. You should say the score. Yeah, that we-9.5. Recommendation, highly recommended. Wait, do you have any comments? Is there any comments? Yeah, go down to the comments. Some of my reviews had comments.

Shit. Wait, wait, wait, go. Can we see the final tagline of all the start? Hold on, hold on, bottom on. This series' credits as being a cleverly structured as well and well-presented series, blending a mixture of a different genre such as psychological romance and drama.

Psychological. If you loved S.L. World, then you will absolutely fall in love with this series. And you'll also wish when something like this happens to us, too. I know I did. She wanted to be curator. I wanted to be curator.

Oh my God. I mean, to be fair, like, I think we all wanted to be curator one point. And can you go up to the tagline that Joey put on this? No, go up to the very top. Your blog page is 1.4 million views. Yeah. Dude, people are... His tagline is every gamer's dream comes true

in this fantastical tale of epic proportions. It's so funny. Oh my God. Oh my God. If you're a gamer or game lover, you've always true. to jumping into the world of your favorite game. Stop!

And experiencing everything like it was real. Stop it! I don't want this. I need to go and delete this website. This is great. I didn't realize it was still on. Holy shit, this is amazing. God, I stop paying this, you are all.

How has nobody left a comment? Yeah, right? Yeah. I'm, you know what? I am actually disappointed. This is the best. We should leave a comment. We should leave a comment right now.

You have three likes. You have three likes. Hell yeah. We should leave a comment right now. Right now. I mean, you presumably have to log in, right? I don't think so. Let's try leaving a comment.

What should we say? Saying good review, the anime man. God, what was wrong with me? Yeah, so you got to log in. Nice review. You got to log in. I'm sure after this episode, there'll be plenty of nice comments. Yeah, thanks guys.

That's so funny that you thought it was you gone. So you worry that, you think that's the single most worst thing you've ever posted. It's, I mean, look at it. It's pretty far. fucking cringe. And I was what? When was this posted? Go up a bit. Is there a, is there a date? This was probably posted. It was before YouTube. So probably around 20, yeah, it must have been 2012 because, right as it ended. Right as it ended. All right. Yeah. Oh yeah, there it is. Oh, wait. Go down. December 12. I wrote this day before Christmas. What was I doing in 2012? Oh my God. 12 years ago. 12 years ago. 12 years ago I wrote.

this. So I was what, I would have been 19. Yeah, 19. Good taste, Joey, good taste. Yeah, I know right. Christ all right. I mean, for me it's still probably always, we've brought this up on trash days before, it's probably always going to be the, what was it called again?

The Annie Tube, uh, the rap, the rap thing. Yeah. What do you mean? That's my favorite thing, you know what I mean? It's that motherfucking tea. I think my, I just- I don't remember those shit.

I mean, Anitue was always cringe in its own way. I think that encapsulated what Anitube was like back in the day. I think it's more cringe that I got someone to write mine for me. You got Greyfox the right. He literally is like amazing rapper. Yeah, he is, he's amazing rapper. So I just caught and I was like, can you record it for me

so I can record it. And then I recorded it and I remember everyone was like, whoa. Whoa, Roconic and rap. And I was like, no, I could just, I can copy someone else. What do you think it just is yours then? Oh man, I was trying to think about this man. I was trying to, I mean, all this. You put yourself out there more than all of us, I think.

Yeah, I mean, definitely, even like when you start doing kind of stuff that's kind of out there in the start, you do think, like, you do worry, you're like, there's no going back. Yeah. Once you do like a half-naked cosplay video, you're like, okay, there's kind of no turning back from this.

Like, this is, like, useful. But also, we do live in a time where the standards are very different for men and women. Yep. Men, you can, a guy can get his cock out and then just do serious journalism right after it. And guys are like, this is understandable.

You know what I mean? But if a girl did it, It can't be a little bit different, unfortunately. But I don't know. Is there one specific video that I can point to that, oh, I mean, this, actually, you know what I should do? I should go through my unlisted. Well, while you were thinking,

I just, like, I just remember this thing. So normally every time when you post, like, a trash taste video or a trash taste special, my mom sends me a picture and she's like, oh, I really enjoyed it. It was so funny. And then in the maid special, she just, all she could say was she posted a picture,

She posted a picture of me doing the main thing And she was like, Ah, you work really hard to make money, huh? And I was like, okay, okay, mom, okay, okay, Your mom didn't have to slam doggy like that. Jesus Christ. Oh, dude, that strip club video was hard. Oh, yeah?

That was tough. That was embarrassing to make. I thought it was good. It turned out well, but it was painful filming it. Right. Because they were just like, on, go grind on them. I was like, do that.

And then they were like, go grind on Cahoe. And I was like, I go to Cahom, I'm like, I'm so sorry. And I was like, I was like fake grinding near Cahoe. And Cahoe was like, it's okay. Just do what you gotta do. It's for the video. Um, fuck.

Oh, Jesus Christ. Oh, Jesus Christ. These videos are so bad. I don't know, man. So far, I think I'm winning for the biggest cringe. Yeah. I don't know. I think you should be proud of that.

I had to say, man. I had to start. We all start somewhere. You know what I mean? As I half-coving. Everyone starts somewhere. Hey, I did a bleach review. Hey, to be fair, I was revealing some pretty fucking not talked about shows, like Campione and my fucking Arcana Familia.

Who the fuck watch those shows? I did, and I wrote a review for them. Did you go on like anime forums before you had any presence online? Not really. I don't know. The way my site grew was really weird, whereas I didn't think anyone would actually start looking into it and reading them.

And then as you saw, like, the entire website is 1.4 million views. Yeah. And that's pretty much like, that could build up even before I started my YouTube channel. So like, it's really bizarre. I think people were just like starving for content like this. Oh, yeah, they definitely were.

Yeah. What the fuck. Because like, I remember I joined a few forums way back in the day. Yeah. I remember someone found my old, had this, there was this forum called just anime forums.com or dot net or something.

Yeah. And someone found it and realized that every, like for like the first few years, all of, all like the big videos I did, I had already made a post on this forum about this exact topic. Yeah. Like years and years and years ago. Right. And then they just realized

that I was just taking all my old topics that I was posting on this one forum and repackaging it into a video. Right. Nothing wrong with that. Yeah, not a many forums.com. Is it still there? And everyforms.

Meiforms.net. Is this the same one? I don't know. I mean, there might have changed it. Such a gigac. It's a Saske and Naroto avatar. Yeah, let's just go on the website. It used to used to be shortened to a4.net.

Okay, so maybe it's not the same one. Maybe it's not the same one. Yeah. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Yeah. Did you find your video? I couldn't, I mean, there's a lot of embarrassing ones. I couldn't believe how many views

some of these videos I made had. Some of these Black Butler ones had like, fucking 500,000 views of me pretending to be Claude playing a game. Like, how does that, I, 500K is still a lot now. Yeah. How the fuck was I getting 500K playing games as Claude? Well, it's because the fucking Black Butler fandom

will eat anything and everything that has to do with Black Ball. Especially back then. Like, when did you make those? Like, what, 2014? No, so 20, 20, 20, 20, 2015, when I started making Black Butler stuff, which I don't even know how it came about.

Well, I do kind of remember how it came about. I, I, it was kind of the only voice I could really copy well at the time. And so I kind of just did it. I didn't really have any feelings towards Black Butler. Right. But there wasn't like a huge fandom at the time. Well, there was previously, it was very dormant.

Well, maybe there wasn't a huge fandom, but there might have been, that small fandom might have just like repeatedly watched those videos, right? And that's how it might have built on. Yeah, I mean, I remember. getting messages that were like, I've still, even in my nearly 10 year career of doing this, I have never had messages that were as intense from strangers

as the ones I got back then. Yeah. The intensity of which some of these messages were composed was like, I, and I thought that was normal. So like now when I like go to my Instagram messages or I go to emails, it's super tame. Like compared to what I used to get sent, it was, I used to get full unhinged like fan behavior.

Right, right. And I don't know, I don't know why that was. And I can't, I don't know what's different. Well, it's the Black Butler fans, isn't it? Yeah. I think so. And I also think there's this weird thing that happens when you're like a medium size, because I think it's fair to say that we're all pretty large creators now.

But when you're like a small to medium size creator, there's this very weird thing that happens where you're quite big, but I think people still, because a lot of people message us and they just, they know that we're never going to see it, which is true because I don't fucking check anything. Except I just admitted that I checked some of it sometimes. because I'm curious sometimes. But most people realize that we'll never apply and we won't see what they send us.

But when you're at this really like small to middle size, people think that you'll see it. Yeah, like roughly around like the one to 500,000 subs range, I'd say. Yeah. One to 500,000. Oh yeah, I'd say even like 10 to 10, 500,000 is even a bit much I think. I think like 100, sorry, like 50 to 200.

I think some people think of you as still being reachable. Right. Which I don't know why this is the case. But I noticed, yeah, like when you said around, when I got to 500, they definitely stopped. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

But when I was around 100, I used to get a lot of messages that were really intense and like strange. Because you'd read all of them as well, right? Yeah, so at the time. I was like, you know, I thought, fuck it. Yeah, for sure. People would send me the whole life story

or, you know, would give me this whole spiel. And it's just weird. I just like, look back at that. And I'm like, wow, what a fucking weird time. And Black Butler New Seas is coming out. So they're gonna come right, they're open the bonkers and they're like, it's time to come out.

I'm getting back on it. I don't think I ever asked, how did you get into voice acting? Um, yeah, I mean, what made you want to get into voice acting specifically? I can't remember which anime specifically made me feel this way, but anime in general does this thing to your brain

where it makes you wanna voice act to some people. It just turns these cogs that just make, because if you speak to a voice actor, yeah, all of them, at least nowadays, the new generation of voice, not the old ones, most of them, I'd say like 90%, wanted to do it because they got into it via games or anime.

Yeah, normally Japanese media of some sort. I don't know, it's this fantastical story that kind of makes you wanna... Well, it's also because, especially in the Japanese voice acting world, some of the, some of these actors' skills are just like on another level. But I think that a lot of voice actors, the ones starting out, getting into it,

they don't even consider that. Right. But I think that you come to appreciate that a lot when you get into it more, because you can just, the mastery on craft, on display, sorry. But there's just something about anime that's so fantastical that, like, kind of like, draws this kind of want to be these characters,

and kind of go through what they're going through. And at the time, I think when I first started doing it, I don't think it was out of sincere want to act. And I don't know what that, because you know, when I talked to like Pete or someone, there's like a different, I think there's a different switch in my brain that when he talks about acting,

it's different how about, how about, when I talk about acting. Well, he did theater, right? Yeah, that's very different. I think it's a totally different, even though I would argue that if you can act, you can voice act. I think I fully believe that.

I think it's the, they share, the same skills. I think if you only voice act, you can't quite fully act because there's a lot of, you still need to have a bit of lessons on hitting your marks, doing all the body movements,

maybe even facial expressions. That kind of sounds quite difficult. But I, I don't know, it drew me into it and I kind of, and I don't know what it is, because there has to be that leap when you wanna do something. So you've all had this thing where

late at night you're watching something, you're like, right, tomorrow, I'm doing this thing. And then you don't do it. Right? It could be like, I'm starting this hobby. or I'm going to start practicing this. And we don't do it.

We're all guilty of doing this. But for some reason, whatever it was about anime, really compelled me to then immediately figure out how to hook my Xbox microphone up to my PC, download the software, and start recording shit and sending it off to random people who were also as clueless as me.

Right. And yeah, it kind of just took off. I mean, it was, I don't know, I just did it, you know, like this PewDie Pie art video that everyone keeps talking about and how insane it is. I'm like, if you truly do something every single day

for hundreds of days, you will get pretty fucking good at that thing. Yeah. The hard part is doing it every day. Being consistent. But when I started voice acting, I literally did it every single day for hours on end because I was so addicted to it.

And I also loved the community aspect of it. Back then it was a huge community thing and there wasn't many of us, there was like, you know, like less than a hundred. It's funny how many people in that community are now professional voice. Like I came, I remember, there's a few people. Because everyone kind of came in the community

in a different way, but when I started, I remember very distinctly, Kovach, who started around the same time as I did, who now is in so many things, he's in digital media circus, he's done some other amazing stuff, and a really nice guy. Yeah, and it's cool seeing you go on your own journey

and seeing other people just go through it. And even back then, he was very, very talented. I remember. He's also Carnegie in, Take you a goal in five minutes. Oh, really? Yeah, you always. Oh, perfect.

Like I just certainly remember when I, because I, when I started, I was doing it, we all kind of just did these dumb auditions where we would, when we knew a project was just a never going to be finished or by a guy who was just, he's like, I'm gonna pay you and he's like, you're not gonna pay us. We would submit these joke auditions

because they were public, so people would listen to them. And I remember that his joke auditions were so good. Yeah. That we were like, what the fuck? Like, this guy's, this guy's joking is better than, like are serious. Right. But, and so it was kind of like a fun little learning experience.

Then I somehow had bullshitted my way into doing it seriously from all of that experience because we'd kind of all held ourselves accountable because a lot of the people who are voice acting back then, you know, every now and then someone would be in the right location to be able to go to one of these voice acting workshops. Maybe they would get successful, but they would still keep in touch people,

so they would kind of trickle down information. And people were very open about sharing information about how to improve. Yeah. So I think the overall, quality of voice actors online improved quite a lot. People who came from only online. So it's kind of an interesting community

and it kind of got my start. And I always say how I got into YouTube was because I got very bored of waiting for auditions. Sorry, I'm ranting by the way. I'm going to no, no, you're fine, yeah. Interesting. I got very bored of doing voice acting auditions because you would sit there for like five hours a day

and you would do these audition, audition, audition, audition, and in your head it's kind of like this, auditioning is almost the fun part because it's the least amount of work for the most reward, which is that you got the role. Yeah. You're like, oh, fuck yeah. And then you actually start recording for some of this stuff and you're like, this fucking sucks.

This fucking sucks. Because you have to bear in mind, most voice actors, 90% of the stuff that they've ever voice actor thing, because they've probably done a bunch of stuff for they've done all the cool stuff, right? Yeah. It's probably just garbage. Stuff that like is maybe like hot messes, because someone else is also learning, too.

You're learning, they're learning, we're all learning. You've also got to get a CV up somehow, right? Right, right. Everyone has to learn, and everyone has to learn and everyone has to find a way. And it's all about, as a voice actor, you have to become a professional con artist as well, where you almost have to leverage the best thing

you've been in to get the next best thing. Yeah, right? And so you're constantly having to be like, I've voiced this pretty cool thing, you might, it's pretty big deal. And you say it, and maybe you know deep down it's not that big of a deal, but you have to kind of like sell yourself.

Yeah, for sure. It's like a, it's kind of a tough business because not only do you have to be a great actor, you have to be a great salesman. Yeah, which is, which is tough. I would say that's true for a lot of life. I think that's the majority of the industry. A lot of freelance, a lot of entertainment industry,

which people don't appreciate that. A lot of people wanna be like, my talent speaks for itself. And it's like, well, sometimes it doesn't. I don't know because I feel like- It's generational, it's very tough to find that. Every now and then there's like one person who has the luxury of doing that.

Yeah. But it's always by like complete fluke. Maybe you work with Garn. Garn has influence. He recommends you. And then there's a series of chain events, but that's a very rare situation. I feel like selling is a skill that is just,

because I fucking hate salesmanship. and like setting as a skill. I always thought I hated that. And the more I grow older, the more I realized, it is so intrinsic to success in life. Because you talk about that, like, but like indirectly, you go to a job interview. What's one of the most important skills

in any job interview? It's selling yourself. You want a promotion, you wanna raise. What is the most important skill? It's selling your value to the job or to your boss or to the company it's in. And you know, these are the moments that are going to define how successful a lot of people are.

And even if you hate selling, I do, I kind of realize how many points in my life that I needed to be able to sell myself in order to get X thing done or something else done. I mean, yeah, I mean, I think the prime example I can give to like at how important selling is when you don't think it is, about charities.

Like think about every charity you probably know about. The charities that you think when you hear the word charity, is probably one that's been so successful in selling its image or story. You know, you think of like, make a wish, super powerful and very easy to sell stories. Because it practically, I mean, hey,

we get to make these amazing moments happen that on camera are very emotionally powerful. And they're not just bringing a camera because they wanna document it and save it. They bring a camera because they wanna sell it. They wanna get more sponsors. They wanna get more donations, you know, and that's the, if a charity has to consider,

something that is, purely philanthropic and about giving and helping, if something like that has to sell, then why do you think you're above selling and whatever you're doing, right? You have to sell, that's what it is. Yeah, and whatever it is you do. Yeah, and I think going at the angle of like,

well, I have the talent is like really dangerous to do because well, you might think you have the talent, but not everyone might agree that you have the talent. And if everyone doesn't agree, then it's gonna be really difficult to try and use that as a selling point. I think there's a, I think there's a like a bit of a bit of a pivot because I don't think it necessarily is like,

oh, I am talented. It's more of like, a lot of people think, I'm above it, yeah. A lot of people think my talent should speak for itself. Which is not true. Yeah, which is like a very, I mean, it can happen, but it's very rare. It can happen. The normal trajectory is for any kind of entertainment or even like any job, business is that like,

you have to in the early stages, really sell yourself to whatever it is. Totally. Yeah. And then once you get to a more comfortable position, you maybe found your audience or you found your clients, whatever it is, then you can kind of pull off the gas. Yeah. You can let your work speak to itself. People are recommending you because they, yeah, that's, that's a, you know, and that's where I think fortunately, like, you know, with our YouTube stuff,

that's where we've gotten to now where we're very fortunate. We don't have to, don't have to do a lot of outreach, don't have to grind a lot. I think we just upload stuff and, uh, it's very healthy. We don't have to like go out of our way to like try and prove a point, right? Like we just kind of do our own thing and then we've in a position now where like, people are more coming to us than we are necessarily going out to them. Like not to say that we're never going out

and like trying to outreach for any kind of opportunity. I'm always trying to do that. Yeah, of course. We're always doing that. But like when we all started off, I'm sure like that was the only thing that, or that was the only way we could get hands out of way, right? Because like when you're starting off,

no one fucking knows how talented you are. No one knows how much like cool stuff you can possibly make or do. Like because you don't really have that kind of experience yet. So you have to make it a point as you said to like, yeah, sell yourself. Which again, I fucking hated doing. Yeah.

Did you guys, you guys both went to university. Did you guys have to, oh, what's it called? When you were applying to the university, did you have to, okay, so you had like your, I guess CV. Did you want interview? But you also had to send a cover letter. Cover letter.

I fucking hate cover letters. That's stupid. What, to a university? Yeah, in the UK. Did you have to? No. Oh, fucker. So in Australia you'd do a test in year 12

and then if your score is high enough, then you just get in. Yeah, we basically like in the UK, when you apply to university, I don't know if this is still the same, but you had like your whatever, you get your test scores and that's on like one form. But then you also have a cover letter

where the aim of the cover letter is to suck your own dick as much as possible and hope that there is still enough dick to suck for. I had to do that for my internship. That's normally for the higher up universities they want to start, because the competition is so broad, they want to start being stupidly nitpicky and be like, okay, no, you don't get to go to Harvard,

because you had a spelling error in your couple. It's true, you shouldn't. And I'm like, I just totally fucking, I just lied. You do, everyone lies. I just lied. Everyone lies on their resumes. Everyone lies on their resumes, everyone lies on the cover letters.

You said about like story selling people. So like I remember inventing this fucking story on my cover letter that, oh, I read this book once in school and I had like the exact book. I can't remember what it was. But I was like, I read this book once and it inspired me to become an engineer and look into engineering.

Little did they know I can't read. And as I was young, I took apart a calculator in order. And that's planted the seed. This probably is why I, like, this is how I write my scripts. In like, this is probably the first time. You're always learning something. Yeah, when I'm just like, yeah, and I opened up a calculator when I was a kid,

and I planted the seed of interest in engineering, and now I please, let me become an engineer. Maybe that's why I got denied from McDonald's, because I definitely didn't do that. I just told the truth. I'm like, yeah, I'm a done. I'm 15 year old kid that doesn't do shit. I didn't even apply for this job,

but it'd be nice to get some extra cash. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's tough. You have to do a lot of sacrifices to make things work occasionally, be it to your own ego or whatever it be. But it was fun. I mean, I, you know, starting out in voice acting was a great way

because I felt like it allowed me to come into YouTube with a ton of knowledge right out of the gate of how to make the video sound good, which I feel like back was a huge problem on YouTube. People just thought the Blue Yeti was the god. You stick this USB, which I don't know if people still use it now. I don't think they do.

I mean, I started off with one. But like it's crazy, like audio was, I don't think people appreciate just how bad audio was back then. Yeah. And so I think it just gave me a huge like up and allowed me to immediately show like, hey look, I can put whatever fucking cartoon visuals on the screen or whatever, but like the,

it sounds great. Like it's a good sounding video. Mm-hmm. And, you know, I think it was kind of, of like, I don't know, I don't believe in destiny, but if it was, if there was any kind of it, it was probably at play there. Yeah, for sure.

But I thought I'd hear you say that line. Oh yeah. I don't believe in destiny, but this was fate. Well, you just kind of, it's kind of weird because when you start something. Why don't you believe in destiny? Um, Kyle, can we get more beers, please? Why?

Why don't I believe in destiny? Why don't you believe in destiny? Are we going in that direction? What are you doing in destiny, Connor? I think, destiny. Meaning means different things to different people, right? I think destiny to some people is take the hand off the wheel, let them do it.

Let the G-Man upstairs figure it out. Yeah, but I think that's a bad way of looking at it. I think a helpful way of looking at something like destiny is, I'm gonna do everything in my power, and then I hope all of the pieces in the universe will align. And if you look at it from that sense, I do think that in terms of YouTube, it was kind of like the perfect storm for me

to get into it, where it was like, okay, I didn't get into it. even though I did try to upload videos when I was younger. You know, you fucking hypercam your runescape didn't throw it up. Yeah, of course. Why didn't it work? Yeah. But I think, you know, I waited until I was like 19.

So I got my cringe out of, well, most of my cringe out of it. You know, and I'd learned all this and I'd just happened to watch pretty much only YouTube for years. Yeah. And it was kind of just the perfect amalgamation of like things that aligned in my life to kind of give me a fight and chance. Yeah. Yeah.

To make it work. Even though I never intended for that to be the case. So it's like even then it's like, you know, I don't know, like I just don't, I think Destiny is an unhelpful friend. That sounds like Destiny, don't mean? I don't know. No, because I, it's only in hindsight

where I can look at it and go, yeah, I guess it could make sense, but also I feel like then that destiny also takes away all of the work you put into something. Yeah, that is true, like, I feel, I don't know, maybe it's just me, but like, bring a me to Ka. In a lot of ways, I need a beer for all.

In a lot of ways, the word destiny is kind of thrown around in a kind of weird past tense way. You know, like, whenever like someone is in like a very fortunate position that they like dreamed all. Yeah, no one was to think destiny I got fucked over. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, it's like, you know, you fulfilled everything you wanted to and then you can, as you said, look back in hindsight and go, oh, maybe it was destiny, right? Like no one in the present time is like trying to strive for something and going, I'm going to have this, it's my destiny! Like, no one's gonna say that. But then I also think that like,

like you're not a fucking anime character. It's the same thing of being like. Maybe I am, Joey. It's like when you're playing a video game, when you're playing a video game, right? And you speck into only like, I don't know, agility and strength. Yeah, yeah.

And then you know, you keep playing, you keep playing and then two days later you come across this armor set that is only, can only be worn if you have really high speed and really high agility. Yeah. It's like claiming that because you cared to put that in,

those points in that tree, it came into existence, which is not true, because these stuff would happen. And someone else would have filled the spot that you would have occupied. Right, right, right. So it's, I think, it's a comforting thing to feel like the work you put in is deliberately being rewarded,

but I don't think that's the case. No. I think if you are a human being and you are improving at stuff in general, opportunities just will come your way if you are putting yourself out there. And that can be perceived as destiny or whatever you want, but it's just,

It's just how it is. Do you believe in Destiny Garp? Oh no, I will tell you a thought that fucked me up recently. All right, all right, tell me what fucked you up, go. And any physics majors can please enlighten me after what we're about to go.

Why isn't that every time we drink, Gant always brings up physics as a topic? I have like, I mean, I'm not complaining. I love it. You know, it's gonna be on suicide watch after these fucking fact checks it's about up to do. It just fucks me up sometimes

because I've when I think about these things. Sure. This is like the 3 a.m. thought that I have before I go to sleep and I remember when I was drinking. Um, So you know that time travel like exists, right? Yeah, but only into the future.

But only, okay, okay. Here's the thing, only into the future, right? Yes. Time travel, but it has been proven that you can time travel to the future. Proven by who? By scientists. Well, it's like- Are you mean time dilation?

Theoretically you can, but like everything about our modern understanding of physics says that you can, based on time dilation, you can go into the future, but it is, as of our understanding, it is impossible to go back to the past. Yeah, so. Yeah, so technically time travel does exist. You can only slow down time.

You can't speed up. Yes, you can't speak it up, but you know, time is relative. Yeah, because even then speed up is incorrect. Like saying time you're going in the future is incorrect. You just perception of time is past. Yeah, yeah. You think you're, from your perspective,

you're in the future. Yeah. That doesn't mean you're on the future. But I'm just wondering, because, Maybe there's a gap in my knowledge. Yes, probably. If there is, assume there are multiple gaps. There is definitely a gap in my knowledge,

but if there is time dilation and there are some people who can, I guess, perceive themselves in their own frame of reference to travel to the future, does that mean the future already exists? See, you haven't seen the latest Kerskissat video. Oh yeah?

Because he mentions exactly this. Oh, does he actually? Yeah, there's a video, the recent Kerskissarad video that fucked me up was like his, was this like thought experimental idea that the present, past and future is all happening at the same time. Yeah. So like if if time travel does exist in like the future if we can, you know, invent time travel, does that mean that there is a version of, you know, a passage of time that already exists in the future and also in the past and is like existing in this moment?

Well, quantum physics would say yes. Joey, don't bring out the quantum physics again. I mean, that's true. I'm not. I'm sorry. I'm not. I At the moment Joey says quantum physics, you know he's gonna spout some grade A bullshit. That's true. Hey, I was right about Schroding or was I not? That's the easiest concept. I didn't see a Moudon fucking correction in that one.

Moodon, how many corrections have you done so? Yeah, yeah. I don't, I, again, the reason why I, I love thought experience. I love thought experience as well. But I hate it when people try to be like, ah, it's under my control. I'm like, no, you're just giving up.

You're saying that you're trying not to understand. And it is hard not to feel like you have no power of what's happening, because we are just one person. But if we've seen anything in... That's our nihilists are born. Yeah, if we see, if we've seen anything in the world, one person can certainly make a huge difference. Yeah, yeah.

Quite drastically in our time. Yeah, I mean, you can look at recent figures and you can figure that out. People are pretty impactful if you want to be a... But it depends what you want. Like, what does making an impact feel? Is it just means that you get to celebrate Taco Tuesday without worrying how much you spend every Tuesday?

Or is it changing the world in a meaningful way? Like, what is that for you? Like, I think it's different for everyone. What is it for you, Connor? What is what? What is making an impact in the world for you? Fuck, dude. Yeah, we're going there.

Fuck, making an impact. I'm two beers, Ian, we can talk about it. I don't know, I mean, like, what? I want to, give me that third beer. This is a dry zero, this is an alcoholic. Oh, non-alcoholic. There must be a beer there. There's a beer right there, the hop one.

Oh, you want the modus one? I'll take the minus one. I'll take me the hop, Eurohop or something, I don't know. This is. Oh, give me the Euro hop, fuck it. Uh, to me, I just. What's the goal?

What's the goal? What's the goal? I would like to leave an impact on people in the same way, different media and different stories have left an impact on me. If I can, if I can, okay, here's, here's my thing, right? If I can make an audience feel something, whether that be laughter,

or a different kind of emotion, I've done something. And to me, that is what making an impact means for me. Doesn't necessarily mean to be like a deep message or something. If I have given someone, you know, a brighter five seconds for a lot or for a joke that I made, I'm like, ah, I made an impact.

Right. Okay, that's what art is to you. Huh? That's what art is to me, art is totally, I mean, shared experience. Art is emotional. to me. Like, to me, like, the worst thing you can do

is for like any piece of media is to make something and then feel nothing. To me, making something that induces, like, hatred or like a bad emotion is more valuable than something that makes me feel nothing. And that's exactly why I say school days is a 10 out of 10, because it made me feel a very negative emotion, and I keep using that,

I use that exact point in my arguments, but none of y'all fucking listen to me. But you know I'm right. Problem with school days is, uh, fuck, how do I argue this? It's shit. Thank you, thank you, Connor, it's shit, thank you. God damn it, I thought I could get them with two views. What's making an impact for you then, Connor?

I don't know, you know, I've had this, um, I watched this video a while back about, uh, it was a down the rabbit hole video. I went back through Fred's, to the library and rewatch it occasionally, mainly to fall asleep too, because Fred, Fred's voice is great. He does have a soothing voice.

Because it's just, it's not, well, it's very, he doesn't shout. Yeah. And there was this video about this, I can't remember for the life being what his name was. He was like, I don't know, this guy had a few mental problems, but he was struggling with a lot.

And I think he was in some war at some point. So he was very, he didn't have a lot of money and he kind of like went through trash and and grabbed any kind of art supply he could he would use like scrap or like literal trash to make art and he never shared any of it for with anyone for like decades and when he died they went into his apartment and the landlord just found all this stuff right and I guess you know rather than throwing it away he just was like what the fuck is all this and decided to share it and it's like this guy built a whole world and this insane series of books that are so weird and so strange and so like kind of foreign.

But he'd made this entire complex world that he never shared with anyone. And it made me think it was like, okay, in this day and age, I feel like we don't have any creativity, or not a lot of creativity that is pure creation. It is, it is just the, the ends to meet the, you know, the means of making it, you know, and it's so rare that you meet someone who just make, just to make. There's no reason. There's no purpose. It's just passion to make

in the creation process. Well, that's the idea of like the true artist. Right, right. We're obsessed with that. Just makes it because they want to make it. Because it's so hard to feel like if somebody is super famous.

That's why I feel like we idolize artists that have passed because we're like, we can't see them say stupid shit about their opinions on politics or whatever. We kind of idolize these figures who have gone because we can look back and be like, look, they became famous after they died. I feel like this is why this happened with art,

specifically, like a kind of traditional art because we want to, we're obsessed with this idea of the artist who makes art for the sole point of creating, not for any game. Well, a lot of like the most like famous artists in the wall died completely broke. Yeah, absolutely. And I feel that like in this day and age,

it's like, it makes me question my own reasons for making what I make. And I'm like, man, I wish I had the integrity to just make for make, but if I wasn't getting paid, I don't think I'd be doing it. this still. Right. It might look different.

If you were getting, okay, here's hypothetical question. If you could make the videos or the art that you're making and get paid, but no one would see it, would you still do it? I think so. I'd like to think so. I wonder how much of the feedback is important to my process. I probably wouldn't. Because I think feedback is just something that, whether it's, you know, wanted or not, I think it's just, you know,

I think it's just like a part of our... It's interesting you say that as the Twitch streamer who gets like the instant feedback to some of the stuff that you do. Like sometimes I stream though and I just literally play the game and I ignore the chat for like 12 hours. Yeah. And I'm like I would have done this regardless of if there's one viewer

or 10,000, I would have played this. Well I mean when it comes to like just playing a game for instance like that's easy enough but say like you know. A show? Yeah, like a show. I mean those shows are designed around the feedbacks. So I feel like that's a bit different. But what if it was like a show that say for example,

some like, say you had like a fucking, you know, oil daddy who was just like, I want you to make this specific video just for me. If the pay was good, I'd do it. Back in the day, I would have, yeah. Would you do it now? No. I make good money now.

I don't need it. But back in the day, bro, if you came to me as a student, you're like, this guy wants you to make a fucking 20 minute video of Sebastian like ASMRA about someone called Steve. I'd have done it. If they'd give me like two bands, I'd have done it. I was broke. It's more about the question of would you create

if you would never be able to see anyone's reaction to it and your own, you do it for your own kind of like satisfaction. I think so, because I think the urge to create came very strongly when I kind of got to my teen, like very late teens and I realized I'd kind of suppress that entire side of my personality. Because I thought, because I deemed it as like, not valuable.

Yeah. Like I think this happens to a lot of people, especially in the sciences or engineering, we kind of see creativity is a burden. We're like, this is, I don't need this. This doesn't help the science that I'm trying to progress. But oddly enough, in engineering, creativity is almost lacking and we need more of it.

I think creativity is a great way to make sure. Why do you say that? We need creative solutions to any problem. Why do you think it's lacking them? Because I think that a lot of people go into the sciences and kind of train themselves out of being creative in a sense. They're like, I have to follow the strict guidelines of engineering.

Because we're always taught within the sciences, this is how you solve this question. I think engineers are some of the most creative people on the planet. No, I think. They are the most creative people on the planet because they know how to create the laziest way to solve a solution.

No, and I agree. That is like, to me that's fucking true creativity. I agree, but I think when we're looking at stuff like that, we are often looking at people who are like almost pioneers or who are very good at one. they do. I think the average engineer just turns up to work and they do what they need to do. You know, because a lot of companies don't want someone who is super creative a lot of the time. Like, do what we tell you to do and do it. Like, I feel like a lot of engineering nowadays,

at least the way it's taught. I don't know if it's fair. I mean, again, I haven't worked in engineering. Yeah. So I don't know. But at least the way it was taught. What was your third year projects? I did, I think I told about this. I did this horrible wave energy renewable project that didn't work at all. Yeah, the water one. Yeah, the water one. It was like a wave absorption tool that it didn't work. Yeah.

But would you say that like didn't try to kind of, I guess, no, because I was just copying, I was just copying previous ideas. Because someone else I caught with this idea and it failed. And for some reason I thought it was good enough to work. So you just plagiarize the idea? That sounds like a you.

But that's like saying, no, no, as in the idea that I come up with, like, like doing wave energy wasn't a new idea, but the design I came up with was new. But it was new. new and shit. Yeah, but that's still like, yeah, but you still, you still use your creativity caught with something new.

That's the thing, you had a problem you need to solve. Creativity is a fair, if you just saw it, you'd say creativity. I didn't say there was good creativity. No, no, but I said it was still there. I meant there's creativity there. I think that if engineers were kind of, I think I felt like it was never encouraged

to learn or be more expressive or more creative. And I think if I had done more creative stuff on the side for whatever reason, I could have better used that creativity and the way I think about creativity in my engineering degree in some ways to solve problems more efficiently. Yeah.

Because you never, we all think we have the best way of doing everything until somebody decides that they figured out a better way. I don't know, I feel like the creativity I had in my engineering course is very similar to, it's a similar feeling and a similar kind of creativity

to what I apply to my YouTube videos, right? A lot of it, A lot of satisfaction I get is figuring out something new, for example. Yeah, solving a problem. Right? Whether that be figuring out a new video that would work for the YouTube algorithm.

I get a lot of satisfaction of that. And to me, that's the same kind of satisfaction as figuring out an engineering solution to a problem in my own way. Because like, I figured that out. This is my solution. I guess that definitely did happen towards the end of the course,

but I'd already had what like six seven years of formal experience where I wasn't allowed to create anything. It was all about problem solving and the problems have already been pre-solved and they were asking me to solve it in the exact same way that they already came up with. So what I'm getting at is that like yes, it was great that they gave us that opportunity to do it a few times. But I can count on my one hand how many times I was given the full creativity to solve the problem. Yeah. But most the time in engineering and STEM subjects, it was all about solve it in the way we expect you to solve it and answer it in the way we expect you to answer it.

Yeah. Which I feel like doesn't harbor creativity. It doesn't allow you to grow and kind of, you know, kind of, what's the word? Kind of develop your creativity skills, which I felt like I was lacking, because I thought that that's not what engineers do and that's not what science people do. Because I felt like that's the way I've been taught.

I don't know, I don't know if you ever felt that way at all in class, but that's how it felt for me. I mean, I feel like, I don't know if I'm, I feel like Bristol University, did, at least when I did the course, it was, the first two years was, okay, theory, theory, problem solving, problem solving. And then the third year, I think it was a really good project, actually.

There was, we had this project called, it was like the buggy project where you had, you had a kind of like a structure for a buggy, and the buggy had to basically traverse a maze, and do different kinds of thing. And it was up to you and your team, how to decide the best way for the buggy to hit all these certain specifications.

And I was like that, that to me was like, oh, okay, this is the first time I'm applying my knowledge to solve a solution. There is not one solution to this problem. And it's up to, you know, it's up to your team to figure out the best way for them to solve the solution. Yeah. And you know, that's where you kind of push innovation,

where you set, you set to a start point, you set a goal. and you're like, how'd you get to this go? You can figure it out yourself. I mean, the only big project I had was make a wind turbine, you all get a part each, but some people were given

a lot easier parts than others. I had to make the shaft. You know how easy just to make a shaft? Barry, it's not that hard. Whereas the guy and the other guy in my group had the gearbox. That's fucked. The gear is a fucked.

To a non-engineer, they both sound hard. No, the shaft is like a bunch of cylinders stacked on each other. It wasn't that tough. The guy who had the aerofoils, the wings, if you will. Yeah. When we got to make those,

he was like, the professor was like, oh yeah, don't worry, you, because you're idiots, there's no way you could design an aerofoil,

because this is like, this is very complicated aerodynamics. Yeah. You just go online and pick the aerofoil, the one that's already made. Because making an aerofoil as a 20 year old student

is very challenging. Yeah. So he just fucking took it online and then just fucking put it in CAD. And his job was done. I made a cylinder and fucking stacked it and chose the material and I was done. And then this guy's making a gearbox

and I'm like, there's a bit of a difference in a, obviously there was more to it than that. But generally I felt like the guy with the gearbox was on suicide watch and I just had to go, you had that guy on the group project. It wasn't even that like, I think at that point it was, we were predetermined what our tasks were based on some criteria.

Yeah. So I must have been like the guy with the helmet on too tight or something, because they made me do that one. Yeah. I don't know, like that. The guy with the gearbox was a genius. Yeah, he was really good at it.

I remember he did a great job and I, my shaft was not very good. Because I just didn't take it seriously because I was like, it's a fucking shaft. What are you gonna do? Wow. How did you fuck it up? Don't know.

Yeah, from how you described it, it sounded very simple. Yeah, and you're like, but I fucked up, it was shit. Or because... I chose squares instead of circles. Because when you make something, right? You're like...

Wait, when you say make, you had to like physically make it? No, no, no, no. In CAD. So then you're like, all right, cool. And then you get a cylinder and you're like taper and you go, whoop, you've made a cylinder. And then you submit it and the guy goes, I don't know, no, no.

How the fuck are you going to transport an 80 meter tall cylinder? That's impossible. You need to split it into parts. All right. Okay, so you're like, okay, shit, all right. Well, that's cut, cut, cock, cut. It was like, well, how are you gonna join it? And you're like, okay, well, shit, okay, I gotta,

all right, I guess I gotta- You don't wanna tell me to cut it apart. Well, you have to cut it to transport it, right? Yeah, yeah. You're like, okay, and then you do this and he's like, no, no, no, that's not reasonable. You can't manufacture that. I was like, okay, all right.

You say, think of another way to make it that makes it easier to manufacture, because otherwise, this is gonna cost an arm and a leg. If you're, when you manufacture anything, there's a thing called, like, tolerances and stuff like that as well, where like, how shit of a job

can they do, basically? Right. And you have to account for that. And if you feel like it has to be perfect, it makes the cost crazy. So you basically have to design, you start like, you have this really simple cylinder,

you're like, boom. And then you're like, okay, wait, now we're in the real world and you start cutting back. And it's actually a great way to kind of make you think more about. To me, that's like creative problem solving because you're like cylinder, boom,

here's a shelf. But let's apply real world problems to it. And that's, that's to me is the beauty of engineering, which is like you have this idea and how do you realize it? in the current status of the real world. Yeah, and I guess that was fun,

but I guess, like learning, I think that's a great message from the send, but I guess for me personally, because I was so checked out of engineering as well. It's like I wish there was something a little more hands-on. I'm gonna say, engineers are the fucking goats. No, they are, absolutely.

No, they are. And there are so many engineers and so many places that start off doing engineering and I've just gone, done way different fucking career paths. Oh no, for sure. And I will say some of the skills I learned in my engineering course,

I'm applying to YouTube. And I know that- The problem solving that you learn from engineering, I think it's irreplaceable. Like it's great. Yeah. I just wish that we had a buggy or something because that's way cooler.

Like I think if I had a physical thing that I could feel and interact with, it would be way cooler to kind of- I'm having this conversation and now I'm just to like, man, wanna make something? My kid should do engineering. You get me that dad.

It's me. Now that I think about it, I fucking hated engineering, but I'm just like, through this conversation, I'm just realizing how valuable engineering skills can be applied. It's the modern day una reverse to Asian parents. Like lawyer or doctor, may I suggest engineer?

They're like, oh. See, I can't say the same thing. Like I can't go off to my kid and go, you gotta do web to site design and music and quantum physics. I chose, I mean, I don't know why you chose engineering, but I chose engineering out of kind of like, it was like, well, nothing else fits with what I like. Yeah.

And also it kinda turned out that engineering happened to be, and I think generally is from a lot of, kind of, kind of, where they've collected a lot of information about it. Engineering tends to be the best return on investment degree. Right. Like if you, the amount of money you put in, you generally get the average higher salary.

Also, I liked that I saw like what you can get with an engineering degree and, you know, you do a doctor degree. That's like very limiting on your options. You do like a-oh, you can fucking do anything. Yeah, yeah. I saw like, oh, you do an engineering degree and you can just do this many jobs afterwards.

I was like, great, I don't have to make my decision now, so I'm going to do engineering. I mean, this whole podcast has been selling engineering. Yeah. And the amount of credit I've got from just saying I have an engineering degree, and if you asked me to do any fucking basic engineering, I can't do it anymore. Yeah.

Yeah. I get so much people being like, whoa, you must be smart. Like, nope, actually quite the opposite. That's why I'm not doing an engineering job. And I guess I proved myself right because I didn't think I'd be doing fucking YouTube with an engineering degree, but I am. And I think we apply a lot of things. Hey, we like the grades.

Markiplier, Felix. Yeah. Engineering degrees. Must be nice, guys. You actually can't be a good YouTuber if you don't have no idea. Is that why my channel's dying? But I mean, I think that,

yeah, I think it's a great degree. Yeah. But I kind of wish that for me personally there's more opportunities to be creative. Yeah. But again, I think every, every... I think that's more to do with the start of teaching and what university do you go.

I mean, the fact that I'd literally one, there was one module where the teachers gave us the answers the day before the exam. I was like, what the fuck is the moment? I was like, what the fuck is this degree? All right. I just came in and was like, guys, I'm gonna give you a lecture,

you are gonna wanna study it hard. And he's like, question one, this may come up on the test. He said that every single time, and it literally came up in order of his presentation. Literally the exact same question with the numbers different. He probably looked at the class.

He was getting some bad results, let me see, he needed to bump up those numbers. He found a cheat way to do it, right? Yeah, I am curious because the previous professor, apparently was very, like, gleeful with the fact that his subject has the lowest pass rates. But maybe the university, I don't know how it works. Maybe they took that as, hey, you're doing a bad job.

You're teaching bad. Yeah. Why are they all fucking failing? So maybe the next guy was like, I have a genius solution to fixing the failing problem. I will give them the answers. Because you're not, you're not, you're not, I mean, you're not giving them the answers,

but suddenly everyone's gone up by 20%. You're teaching them stuff that might turn up. Yeah. Might as in 99% will turn up. What's the proudest thing you did or made university, Joey. Fucking nothing, dude. Nothing, bro.

Do you have anything good to show for university? Actually, I do. You guys just saw it. The fucking website. You made that website? I made that website in high school, but then I perfected it. Wait, isn't it with WordPress?

Yeah, but I did all the hard coding. What? I hard coded that website. Even though WordPress lets you like soft code and just like play shit, I hard coded that website. Yeah, I mean, code. And look at it. That's cool.

Would you choose the banners? I did choose the banners, yeah. I just, I think I remember how I chose these banners. I typed in anime and then the dimensions and then I just picked the first one. Fuck yeah. I mean, coding is just Lego with words. It is, it is.

I don't know, what's the proudest thing I made? In my last year, we made a, we had this robotic arm that we had at the university and we had to make a program that could make the robotic arm do different stuff. And so my group made a, a custom, it was a cocktail making robot. So basically the robot, the robot had an arm, right?

Oh, what the fuck I'm sitting here? Cawboard and LEDs. No, no, no, no, no, but, but here's the thing. It didn't fucking work. But you had a robot arm? We had a robot arm on campus. Imagine if it did work. Yeah, if it worked, it would be-

core memory shit. It would have been cool memory as fuck. I remember I asked for like a other. But the only thing he could do was pour a beer. How is that a, how is that a, How is that an L? I should, she was a win. No, no, because we literally, like,

it was, it was a mixture between, like, it was like, we had like two guys who were, like, in, you know, who were majoring in programming and then I was majoring in, like, U.S. design. So basically, I had to make the U.S. for this app where, like, if you press, if you, it was the scenario of you went up to a bar and there's a robot on there,

you had to, you had to make an app and, like, create it so that, like, if you came up to the thing and you'd press a couple of buttons being, like, I wanna make, you know, this, with this strength, and blah, blah, blah, and then you press it. You just sit in the Zuckerberg of jacking off.

Yeah. I could have, but then, you know, you type in like, okay, I want a gin and tonic. Give me a double shot with no ice or yes ice. And you press all of these and then it would send the program to the robot and the robot would grab each of the bottles and make it for you. You just experienced life.

That this is, yeah. This is professional projects in a nutshell. Person today he has an idea. He gets the budgets. And then you realize you have to scale down on what your original specifications were meant to be. And then you get the final product.

And I was like, and you're like, well, this isn't what I envisioned. But it can still pour a beer. I get that it's like a cool proof of concept. But if I went to a bar, my bartender was a robot, I think I'd just become sober. Yeah, right? I just don't, like for me, the bartender is

part of the drinking experience. Totally, totally. The guy, maybe, it depends on the bar. You go to Weather Spoons and sometimes you're like, I've waited 15 fucking minutes to get a drink. Please just have a fucking robot. Dispense my drink, please. No, it's part of the personality.

It's part of the flavor of the drink. Waiting 20 minutes is not part of the personality. It might be cool the first couple of times you experience it being like, the fucking robot made this drink for me, but then after a while you're just like, there is a gap for it, is what I'm saying. There are some places where you just need to get a drink

as fast as fast and officially as possible, and weather spoons on a fucking Saturday night is one of those days. I still want my pipe poured by a 50 year old man who is slightly racist beliefs and loves football too much. He just does it right. That's true.

This is like city boy versus country boy. Yeah, right? I'm like, I want the core of bodies. I just need, I've waited too many, been to too many bars. You're misunderstanding the whole point of alcohol, Gant, which is socializing. I wanna socialize with my friends.

No, no, even having that slight awkward interaction with the bartender, maybe have a great connection with the bartender. Some bars, it's all part of that. Okay, if it's like an intimate bar, yes, I agree. Then that's a busy ball. I love getting the guys attention. No.

I'll have, uh, don't, don't ever do that by the way. I don't want to. Goss on. Don't ever do that. You will literally get killed in the British pub. I think you would actually get thrown out. Yeah, probably. I think he actually would refuse to serve.

Well, you want, you want fucking 10 Jaeger bombs? And then you take half now of everyone else's time. I need that man of like, I've been on the other side of that now. other side of that and I want to kill myself. That's what I seek. I need to, when I do in a ridiculous order, I want the person to reflect that with,

you know, no, that makes me feel, bro, no, no, that's part of the experience. I want to just cold-bloodedly press 10 Yeager bombs on a fucking app and the robot just doesn't. When I order like 15 drinks, I don't want someone to go, no problem, I want someone to go, oh, 15 drinks, okay, wow. Look, look, Connor, I need to be affirmed that this is an insane amount

drinks and then me and my boys are going hard tonight. Conner, when I go to Weatherspoons, I'm not looking for fucking ambience or a fucking connection with the bartender. You don't understand that the weather spoons, the bald man in the bar is bringing you ambiance. I am getting, I am going there for the specific reason to get drunk as fast as I can, as cheap as I can.

You want all the people in the bar to replace your robots because they're not interacting, they talk too loudly or something? I mean, Japan's already there in some places. I'm gonna go to kiss. You guys can keep talking about this. But yeah, no, I agree. So how far did you get with it?

So you poured a beer? So I literally, I wasn't proud of that shit. No, because everybody else has worked perfectly. And it was so annoying as well because like, like, I'm not gonna blame the programmers. Because I was just on the U.X and U.I side of things, right? Like I made a bomb ass U.I. Like I made fucking Atlas proud with my U.I, right?

Like it was a bomb ass Ui, looked great, functioned, perfectly and then something on the day. We tested it for like weeks. We fucking debug that shit for weeks before the day. And we were like, all right, seems to work. It's great. On the day we had to present it. The robot was just like, nah, bro.

Bro, you had a fucking cyberpunk 2017. No, legit. Like I would be like, watch this robot make a gin and tonic double shot. Boop, boop, boop. Why is it not doing anything? Also, this is the most Aussie fucking idea I've ever heard in my life. You have a fucking robot arm that can do anything?

No, and here's the cruelest thing. Because it was the final project for our final year, they decided, hey, you know what would be the best place to showcase all of these projects for this robotic arm? Yeah. At the final day before graduation when everybody is partying in the campus.

Right. So not only was it like our curricula, or like our faculty that was partying, you know, with this like robot that can, serve alcohol. Yeah. But it was also the rest of the entire university that came to like check out this robot.

And then I have to fucking stand there and be like, yeah, so my robot can only pour a beer. Bro, that sounds fucking amazing. It was, I hated it. I left early, I'm pretty sure, because I'm like, this is too much of a shame to show to people. Cause like all these other ones were like fucking shaking the thing

and everything like that. I'm just like, mine can pour a beer. You have a university way too rich if they have that many robot arms. Well, Sydney University, bro. Okay. All right. We had that Monet.

I mean, okay, I saw what Sydney said at the other restaurant. I don't know if she should be running a university. I turned up to my graduation in a university and I bought the suit at Primark the day before. I didn't realize like I need like a tie or anything. So it's kind of rocked up in like a blazer and a shirt. Wait, you guys wore suits to your graduation?

Yeah. Yeah. We borrow like the garbs and the hat. Oh, no. At least something in our universities. And I remember I was like the, least dressed person. My parents were so embarrassed. Yeah. They were like,

wise Connor. He doesn't even have a fucking tie. What does he do it? What the fuck? Motherfucker, looking like a way. I was like, fucking cheers, mate. Motherfucker looking like a waiter at Old Garden. Basically, I heard really like a waiter. I turned out, oh, thanks man. Thanks to the degree. Yeah, I got to do like the hat throwing thing.

Oh, we didn't do that. Oh, we didn't do that. That was great. We don't, we don't subscribe to this American propaganda, all right? I mean, I I enjoyed it. Well, you should not. You know what? That was a core memory for me. The hat throwing, I was like,

I've seen this in so many movies. Woo! I don't know if you felt this way, but I felt this very morbid kind of, it's kind of morbidness at the end of your graduation ceremony, where you kind of have, you talk to everyone afterwards,

and you kind of like, I'm not gonna see half you've, more than half, like, I'm not gonna see 95% of you people ever again. Yeah. And some of you were so, and some of you were so, you know, influential.

at one point or another in my life. Yeah. And I'm never gonna see you guys again. I think right now I only like regularly hang out with maybe three of my mates from university. I don't hang out with any. Yeah, I realized it was it was like two for a while and as I've not gone back to the,

I've not gone back to the UK for a while. It's kind of become zero. Yeah. Because I don't, I didn't, you know, I'm not the kind of person. I don't really like small talk texting. I think it's kind of just not. Oh no, I don't small talk text my uni friends.

Well, I reckon if I hit them up and I went back, it'd be a great Oh yeah, yeah, no, every time I go back to Australia, like, there's like one or two people I always hang out with. One of my uni mates who, when I last saw him, he was gonna, he was gonna take over his girlfriend's company. And then three years later, he messengers me, and he's, like, one of the, like, biggest shareholders

on one of the biggest e-sports companies in the UK. And he's, like, giving me ad deals and stuff. And we met up in L.A. It was so surreal. That's badass. So I was like, what the fuck? Like, how did this happen? But he was always cool, dude.

So you didn't even like games going on. Yeah. No, he loved games and he loved esports, but I remember that like, he was like, yeah, I'm gonna go take up my girlfriend's company. And then he, yeah, went on to not do that. And I shot him three years later in fucking LA. Yeah, and he's like the head of this fucking company.

I'm like, what the fuck happened? How did you do that that fast? It's very impressive. Have you ever gone down your like Facebook feed just to see what anyone who like in high school or shit was doing? Everyone's doing like really normal stuff. Yeah, they're either all married or they're all with kids

or they just have like a normal job. Kind of like someone became a high school. like a Willy Wonka or something. So I kind of have some, the craziest one for me is one of my high school friends. Actually, I've known him since primary school, Japanese guy, became the youngest wine sommelier in history. Oh, he'd keep telling me about this dude.

Yeah, Toro Takamatsu, he was, which is really weird because he never drank, like up until we graduated. Like, he was refining the tongue. Yeah, he was not allowed it to be spoiled, and sullied by poor alcohol. Because he was like really, really into coffee during high school. Like he was, and everybody,

thought he was gonna go down like the barista line. Yeah, right? And then like a couple of years later, like after we hadn't seen each other for a while because we're all adults. Yeah. I just like saw him in the newspaper and it was like, oh, Toro Takamatsu, the youngest wine solomily in history. And I was like, what the fuck? When did this happen? I thought you were a coffee guy. Yeah. It's weird to see, it's interesting to see, to me it's like interesting to see what

different life paths people have taken sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I kind of, but then I also sometimes get, I don't know, I don't know, Sometimes I kind of, especially when I speak to some of my friends that had such lofty ambitions, and then you kind of see them not doing what they said they wanted to do, kind of get sad because I'm like, man, you're such fucking cool ideas and you wanted to do this crazy thing and you ended up not doing that.

For sure. Yeah. And it's always kind of, I don't know, it's frustrating. You're like, man, you're so fucking talented. On the flip side, it's interesting to see people who just seem like an absolutely fucking mess. And they figured it out. Yeah.

That's me. That's me. Yeah. question, would you go to your high school reunion if you were asked? I don't know if you were. I missed my high school reunion. I missed mine as well.

Wait, when was it? Last year. Actually, no, year before. What was, what like anniversary was that? 20-202, 10-year anniversary. Oh shit. Yeah, I missed mine two years ago. Would that be like mine next year?

When did you graduate? I don't fucking know. Hold them, I'm 27, Joe. You're 27, so yeah, next year would be for you. Shit, it's fine out. Would you go to your, lined up with a schedule? I'm not going to the UK for it. I'm not, I'm sure.

The only reason I wouldn't is because I didn't, sorry, is because it didn't line up and I wasn't in the UK. I'd really like to get to see a bunch of my old screw friends. I couldn't do it because of COVID. Oh shit. Wait, did they still have it? Well, no, it was the tail end of COVID, right? 22, so I couldn't, it was still like I couldn't go to Australia.

Would you have gone that if COVID wasn't the thing? I would have. Yeah, because like I heard about it from a couple of my mates and like the turnout, because we had such a small year, like there was only like four. 40, 50 people in our year. So, and most of them still lived in Sydney. So, like, it was surprisingly, I think it was like 80% of the year, like, actually

showed up, which is interesting because, like, the throughout our high school, like, we all had our own clicks and we weren't necessarily, like, hanging out with one another all the time. Like, it was always just segregated into different friend groups. But, yeah, my friend was telling me about it. And he was like, yeah, it was really crazy just seeing that everybody was still just interacting with one another like it was still high school. and it was kind of bizarre.

I would like to go to my high school. Yeah, I would have really liked it. If we're doing like a 20th year anniversary, I would definitely. I would like to go to my university reunion as well. If there was like a class of like, that would be a lot of fun. Yeah.

That's so big though. Yes, that's the problem. Yeah. But just, just message all your mates independently being like, I've summoned you. All of us come to Japan. Let's hang out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You guys come to me. Yeah. I'm the only one here, but come on. Did I tell you that I met like the one here, that I met like the guy who sold drugs in my, like, do tell. Yeah, I met, I met the guy randomly in the UK. And I remember back when I was a teenager,

he was known as the guy who had all of the drugs. There was always one. Right, there was always, that one guy. Not that I like really, he wasn't a friend, he was just like, man, you gotta get modern warfare too somehow. Yeah, yeah, he was just the guy that I knew. Everyone knew in the school year. Yeah.

Randomly met him, uh, I just like, randomly met him a few years ago, uh, on a night out in Bristol. And I was like, oh shit, what are you up to now? He was like, at the time, it was like selling Pokemon cards. Oh yeah, you told me about it. Yeah, yeah, he was, yeah, yeah, he was, yeah, yeah,

I mean, I think that's just the spirit of a hustler. Right. It doesn't matter what makes money. He's just gonna hustle whatever makes the most money at the time. Whatever, whatever makes the most money at the time, whether it's legal or not. See, I have a story of a friend from high school who was that, but ended up being the opposite.

So he wasn't necessarily like the drug dealer guy, but he did a lot of drugs. And he was like overall like pretty like well, like badly behaved during high school, right? Like always got into trouble with all kind of stuff. Ended up being a lawyer. And I'm like, well, you would know the lawyer. A lot of best.

A lot of people, how the fuck did that happen? A lot of people, you know, I think there's an argument where you just kind of get it out of your system. Yeah. like I'm gonna do all the crazy shit while I get away with it. I mean, I'd say it's maybe a 50-fifth charge. It's such a point for it. It's up to the person.

It was destiny, dare I say. It was- Well, I think some people experienced that kind of stuff and they're like, I'm good. Like I don't need this. Like I have no interest in this. Sure, that could be that. I had a, maybe like four, right, maybe, actually it was the right before I moved to Japan.

Had a night out and one of like, I never got in a fight with them but he was a kind of a bully and I went out with him. And this was like three or four years after high school that ended at this point because it was after university basically. So I think, yeah, three or four years. And I was kind of like, all right, awesome. Maybe he's like, maybe he's like cool now.

And I met up with him and he was like, yeah, it was super fucking cool. But as we kept drinking, it slowly came back more, like the kind of dick bully that he was. He started doing shit that was just like a dick. Like he was just making fun of people. like pushing people around a little bit. And I was like, oh, you just got good at hiding.

Yeah. You just learned how to hide being a shit. Like you are, you are deep down still a dickhead. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was very interesting because I really genuinely, I was like, oh, this guy's pretty fucking chill. Well, it's also probably because hanging out with you brought back those memories, right?

Yeah, because like, you know, I'd be lying if I said that, you know, if when I hung out, because, you know, when I went back to Australia at last Christmas, I hung out, I got to hang out with my high school mates because we're still quite close. And we hadn't gathered all together. in that friend group in, fuck, like almost 10 years now.

Yeah. And it was surprising. Like, I was a little bit nervous because I didn't know if that amount of time passing would change the dynamic of, like, how we interact with one another. Yeah. I don't know why I worried because the moment we all got to that pub and we were just, like, hanging out, playing pool, doing whatever, I felt like I was back in high school. And I was like, like, you know, like, at first there was that kind of like slight awkwardness

of like, oh shit, I haven't seen you and like. five years, 10 years, whatever. But then the moment we all kind of got comfortable with each other again, it was, it literally, like, I had flashbacks of high school. Yeah. And I'm like, man, that's so weird how it's like that. Yeah.

Because it just happens. Like that side of you, you haven't brought out in all that time. Just suddenly when all the pieces of fit together, they just click and it's out before you know it. Like my Australian accent tripled during that night. Oh, bro, every time I go back to you, I think it depends on who I talk to,

but sometimes my accent just like flips back to good old 2007 anime zone. Oh yeah, totally, totally. Yeah. But hey, we talk too much because- Shit, I was just having a good time. Yeah, I don't know, right? I'm sorry.

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