Trash Taste Podcast - We Ranked Life's Biggest Milestones | Trash Taste #327

Episode Date: September 25, 2026

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of the Trash Tate's podcast, and I'm joined once again by the boys, Joey and Gart. And today, we are going to TLSL life accomplishments or achievements or milestones. We're just going to talk about

Life itself, you know. Basically everything that happens in your life, we're gonna rate it as a tier list. See, we call, you know, we talk about life quite often, but are you on the internet, unless you can categorize thing and put it in a nicely organized tier list? I love our tier lists have just never died

and we'll probably never die. I think it's an awesome format. I think it's cool too. I'm sure that someone will make a better one at some point in future, but for now it's- You can't top an S to F ranking. Yeah. Something about it, man.

I think we are always, subconsciously doing tier lists anyway. Someone just put like, someone just visualized it and put it in a nicely, nicely neatly put format for us. So I guess we have a couple of examples here just to kind of give you a flavor. Having your first drink, getting your first paycheck, turning 21, moving out, getting married, first expensive purchase, graduating high school, just the general life milestone things that will happen. Some of them good, some of them

bad, but we talk about them all and form our opinions. Because it's the trash taste podcast. And we just make shit up for argument. That is what we do. True. So... I love that one of the achievements on there, can we start off with being broke? It's a life...

Okay, sorry. It is not a life achievement. This is a life milestone. Life milestone. Why is it called a milestone? I'm sure I heard a fun fact about this and I already forgot it. Something about the distance. What is a milestone?

And a stone. GROC? What is a milestone? What is a milestone? What's a milestone? See, a very important event goal. Where is the word come from? Etymology.

Etymology. Or does that mean, okay. How do you define a milestone? No, no, that'll like. A significant market event or checkpoint in time used to measure progress towards a larger goal. No, I meant why do we call it milestones? Where does the word milestone? Why do we call it a milestone?

I know what it means. Because I know what the, I assume someone. in the... Comes from the literal stone market. Always the fucking Romans. Oh, it's a fucking Roman roads every mile. Back at it again with the Romans. I want, I just want to forget about the God damn Roman Empire.

By the 1800s, people started using the word as a metaphor for any major life event or goal. There you go. Interesting. Interesting. It's pretty smart of them to do that. It's interesting. I would like to know how many miles I am away. I don't know how far a mile was, though.

Uh, they knew that shit by them, bro. Yeah. They had math. Oh, they knew that shit by then. Yeah. Just making sure. It's interesting that some sayings

that date back all the way back then have just, you know, still carried on in our carbon, common vocabulary. True. You know, all the way back to the room.

It is a great word. Although, like, yeah, it is, you know, milestone. You're like, okay,

fun. I like that. That's fun. I'm not going to lie dog. Never thought of it that, yeah. Okay, let's go to the list.

Let's see the first one. So being broke. Do you want to tackle this one now or later on after we've kind of filled out this list a little bit with more, perhaps normal. Are we not going in order? Yeah.

I think being broke is underrated. Oh my God, okay. I think... Do you want to explain? I think you should be broke at least once in your life. Yes, I agree. There is nothing that will light a fire under your ass and give you actually more dedication and commitment

to the thought of I don't want to be broken again. There's nothing that humbles you more to. Can I ask a privileged question? Sure. Like, I was never, like, uh, I was never, like, destitute. I was, like, you know, like, my parents,

I never had money, though. Yeah. So when I, when I left school, I only had, like, a little bit of money because I worked on the side, but I don't think I was ever, I don't think I was ever broke. What constitutes is broke?

Okay, isn't it the famous saying? It was like, uh, being broke is a mindset and being poor is like, uh, what is it? I think it's a Dave Chappelleiquot, actually. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Broke is a mindset.

poor is like reality or some shit like that? Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. What's the difference between broke and poor? Well, broke is a mindset. Poor is a reality. Yeah.

Poor is a mindset. Poor is a mindset, but broke is temporary, you know. So what's the difference between being broke and being poor? I think like you say, I'm broke. And it's like, bro, it's like you got a job, you can pay everything you need. But you're just like, we don't have much money, you're just like, you're kind of like, very frugal, I guess. I guess you're like, fuck man, I just, I got no money. I went to the anime convention, I spent all my fucking spending money.

Yeah, right, right. Yeah, and I guess like being poor. But there's been like poverty, which is like, yeah, yeah. You actually are like fucking broken. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're not broken, sorry, you have no money. There's something wrong with you. You have no money.

Just to make my phrase incorrect there. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I guess everyone's kind of broke at one point in their life, unless you have extremely good parents. I don't know about that corner. I don't know about that. Like, I don't think I've been broke, but there's been periods

I've had like barely any money, but I've not needed much either, so I don't know where that. I think if I'm asking this, I don't, this isn't apply to me. Yeah. I'm like,

I can't be broke if I really, my fantasy and my McDonald's... If I think hard enough. Yeah, no, I don't think I've ever done. No, I don't, luckily I don't think I've ever been broke. I mean, I've had times

where I've been like incredibly frugal with my money because I don't know. Yeah. Oh, just wait, Joe. Yeah. Yeah. You got a reckoning coming on. Yeah, we're YouTube.

It'll happen eventually. But yeah, I mean, like, I've been, I've had times, like, when I first moved here, for instance, where I was, like, obviously very frugal with my money because I didn't know how long I'd be doing this for. I think, but I was never broke. I think when we first met, I thought you were broke. I just, you saved. You saved everything. I did.

I did. I was incredibly frugal. Yeah. You were. I was like, damn, you're broke. Yeah. I was like, I mean, it's like, this is the most money I've ever had. I need to make sure.

I'm sure I have this. Well, it kind of like humbles you, right? Because I guess like my family has been through like bankruptcy. You know, we've been through like major debts. Uh, thankfully we're not in that anymore. Uh, but, you know, there was a point where through, I guess, sheer hard work and just working multiple jobs, uh, you know, my family were able to provide me a more opportunity in my life, which I'm like, hell and grateful for. And that is, it's like my privilege where I know there are some people that, you know, are still are going through the same thing and still cannot be afforded, more opportunity and stuff like that.

But it's, I will never forget the experiences that of that part of my life, because that is like such a big motivator and such a big driver. I guess it also humbles you, humbles you as well. And you never forget, you never forget where you came from. You never forget that time. Started from the bottom. Yeah, started from the bottom. And I always remember just seeing how fucking hard my parents worked to the point of like health detriment sometimes.

You know, my parents, my family has gone through a lot. And that's, you know, I wouldn't know. necessarily say I want that experience for everyone. That is the tough ass experience. But I will say that having having a time in your life where you know that nothing is going to come to you for free, that's you are going to have to work to achieve something. I feel like that is an important life lesson that's, I've met too many people that may not know that life lesson and just let life drift by, you know, and some people are just like, got the SSS gatcha role. And I'm like, no matter what I do, I'm going to win in life, you know, I started.

The generational wealth. Yeah, generational wealth. I was broke growing up because we only flew a con. I can't. I can't even say the joke. I'm sorry, I can't. Every weekend, I was like, father, why are we not in business? We used to only fly economy, you have to understand.

No. The mindset was horrifically not bad. I thought I was broke, though, because all the food tastes is really bad in the UK growing up, so I was like, oh, we must be broke. Okay, yeah, it's fine. No, I don't know. Okay. I think, though, in terms of, like, a milestone, like, on this, like, tier list, for instance.

Yeah. F, when you're in it, but afterwards, you get, like, S-tier character development. Yeah, the lessons you learn from it is S-T. And you get the... You get to own that. Yeah. Yeah, you do. You're like, yeah.

Yeah, look how far have come. It's like when people tell me, like, start a YouTube channel from zero again. I'm like, I can't do that. I wouldn't know how. Could you not do that? No, no, I probably could, but you know what I mean? It's like, I don't want to. I don't have anything to prove.

I would like to not do that. Yeah. I could put it in B for broke. Yeah, let's put it in B for Broke. Because I don't think it's, we need an FTA, by the way. We got it. Yeah. Yeah.

We got an ad naft. We don't know if anything would be, but just in case. You're probably a teal us without an after here. I mean, what are we doing? You couldn't start another channel? But let's see what the next one is, and we can discuss it.

Would I want to start moving out maybe? Would you want to go in order of these? Yeah, yeah, let's go. Okay, well, would I want to start a YouTube channel again? Fuck, I mean, I reckon I could do it, but I think it would suck. I've done it two or three times now, and it's fun. It's fun.

That doesn't count. Why? Like truly starting from zero. Like, no. Yeah, I have the secret channel that I've never said. How do you have got on it? 11K.

That's pretty good actually. Because my first video, like, kind of blew up randomly. Is your voice not on this channel? Yeah. So, sure people know it's you. Yeah, people have figured it out, but I never promoted it. Oh, okay. It's pretty technically zero. Okay, that's pretty interesting. Okay, it's pretty fun. Okay.

Moving out. Moving out. I got to say, I think it's S tier. Really? I fucking loved moving out. I'm stoked for it too. Um, I mean, it feels like, it's exciting. It feels like, you know, a lot of things happen when you're growing up, but the first time you move out, it's like when you finish the tutorial of life. Like, it's like the breath of the wild, you come out of the cave. That's what it felt like. It was like, holy shit. How old were you when you moved out?

18. Damn. Yeah, for a lot. You went to university at home. Yeah, I stayed at home. So, I moved out when I was 21, is when I moved to you. Okay. Yeah, see, I wouldn't use Breath of the Wild as an example. I would use fucking Eldon Ring. A blood borne. Yeah, yeah.

Leaving the cave in Elden Ring. Yeah, you go out into the cave. And then you get called maidenless, and you're like, damn, I do get no bitches. Rent is you, peasant. You encounter your first enemy, which is your roommates, and you're like, damn, this is a fucking Avengers level threat right now.

How do people... You've been loud, God. It's midnight. You should sleep soon. Yeah, it's, uh, it's, I would say it was cool in my mind, but definitely the first experience moving out and definitely your first experience living with other people who always have different vibes and different levels of sanitation with how much they were. I mean, I feel like the act of moving out is different from the act of living with roommates.

I feel like that's, I would put those as two different. Maybe. You would think so? Because like normally. Because I fucking hated my roommates. I did as well. But I didn't mean I wasn't a stroke to move out. Like that,

I feel like there's two different things almost. I think, I think the biggest thing is what's cool about it is feeding like you're in control. We actually have having roommates. Oh, we got having roommates. Okay, okay. I'd say like the first time moving out is an S tier.

Every subsequent moving. out kind of gets lower and lower on the list. It becomes less and less novel for sure. Yeah. Although moving out to Japan was kind of hype, but that was kind of hype because I had literally nothing. I didn't bring anything with me. I just had like two suitcases.

I think there's another category which is moving overseas. Okay. Yeah, living overseas. Okay, so let's just do moving out as in like, because moving out implies the first time you're out of your parents' house. And it's not roommates, just literally moving, like that kind of process. It was exciting for me. I think it was S tier for me.

Yeah. It was exciting. So you think A, B? I think, I think around A for me. It was still like terrifying. Like, but the exciting kind of terrifying. I guess the first massive life change you have to do. Yeah.

You know, and I think I remember I, I think I called my mom and cried the first day. I was like, damn, miss you mom. I miss home. And then two days later, I was like, what a fucking pussy. This fucking rules. You adapt correctly. right? Yeah.

What's the first thing you did after, like, moving in was like, the first thing to the Tesco's and I bought a 24 pack of pot noodles. I remember it very quickly. That was the first thing I did. And my parents were like, oh, fuck, he's screwed. My parents are like, this guy's going to die. I remember the first thing I did was set up my Xbox 360. And I was, I remember this specific moment where I set up in like my, my boy corner.

Hell yeah. And I'm like, ain't nobody can tell me to go to sleep now. I'm gonna, I'm playing the shit till 5 a.m. That was a revolution, to be fair. That was, right? I think I also stayed up all night, just doing. But then the sad part is you fucking booted up and you're like, who's online?

No one. No one. It's okay. I was playing JLPGs at the time. Damn it. That's the ultimate hack. Yeah. Who needs friends?

Yeah. Okay. I'll say STA. I say ST. All right. Getting your driver's license. We spoke on this. couple of times. Yeah. Well, we've all gotten it once. Yeah. Overrated.

Overrated. He doesn't like driving, though. You're just so dumb. Overrated. No, I mean, when I got my direct license to 16, it's just like, hell yeah. I never felt that. I was, I was excited for it. I remember there was this sensation of, I was excited that I got it, but I was annoyed that it took me so long, because in my head, I was like, if anyone can get this, I'm better than anyone. So I should have had this already. Like if I think to myself, if like enough of the general population can do something,

then I can do it. I mean, statistically, yes, yes. So I'm like, I should have had this already. This is weak. Were you late to getting your lessons? Yeah, I was like 20, 23 when I got it. No, or 22.

Damn, late bloomer. Yeah, Sam. Well, it was just because like, I think I talked about this, my guy just quit when I was in high school. I was like, I was like, because in the UK, typically, I don't know how it is in Australia. You typically have like week by week lessons for the most part. Yeah, yeah.

Do like an hour or two here and there. And then he'll eventually he'll be like, you're ready. Yeah, in Australia, you don't, you can do that. You can go to like a drive-me school to get learned by an instructor, but most people just get like a parent to teach you. So my dad told me. I wonder if it's different now, though. I don't know, actually.

I wonder if it's different. That was, fuck, 15 years ago. I was going to say. Yeah. Because there was some of that. But obviously, like, my parents are like, hmm. You should.

Yeah. You should go. to an instructor. So I did that, but then he quit halfway through, couldn't find another one. Then I moved to London. And I was like, well, and then that's when I did the course. Right. But it was still, I'd say, an A sensation for me. Yeah. It was a good, gone to fucking C or D. What do we? I was, I think I got my driver's license just to like, I knew I would get my driver's license. So I was like, I'm just going to get this out the way as early as possible. I got it when I was 17. I was one of the first people in my friend

group to get a driver's license and I fucking hated it man because then you become I become everyone's bitch boy yeah we'd literally go to like wait where'd your birthday huh what's your birthday uh it's may but oh so it's relatively late because it's relatively one it was like the kids who were born in like late september yeah like yeah i can drive day one what's up news terms just started right yeah i don't know no one in my friend group wanted to get a driver's license and I think I think my parents pushed me to get one just just get it just to get that. It's good to have it early on.

It's very useful, but I think it was an ATIF for me because I was one of the later ones in my class. So there was already that designated driver in our friend group. So even when I got it, I was just like, now, but he's got the car. It's already established. I remember every time we'd go to like a house party

that wasn't like you can get to with like public transport, I was like, well, I just gotta go to this part. And there's nothing more boring than going to a party where everyone's getting fucking drunk. And you're being like, I'm gonna drive. I hope everyone was having a good time, you know.

True. And honestly, I'm not American, so I can get around where I grew up without a driver's license. So it was just, it was just... You can always go on a very long walk. Yeah, or a bus. Our bus has worked in Brighton.

I've done a couple of those 3 a.m. pilgrimages back home. I've done some fucking brutal walks, with no street lights as well. Yeah, for me, driver's license is like C tier. It's like, C. Yeah. Well, I guess by that we'll have to put it in B. Yeah, all right.

The accumulation. I'm okay with a year and B as well. Yeah, that's fine. Okay, I will say this for me is S tier. As tier. Getting your first paycheck, it feels like magic. You're like, wait, if I just show up to a place, do the thing they ask me to do.

What did you buy with your first paycheck? Xbox one. I saved up for it. What a waste that was. I learned a harsh lesson that day. Just because you have money doesn't mean it can be spent on good things. Yeah, Nintendo DS for me. I remember getting my first paycheck and I think it was like 400 pounds.

Yeah, it was electric. I was like, this is triple digits that is going to me. The most I'd gotten was like the odd like 20 pounds from my parents. I didn't know numbers could get that. Like getting 400 pounds when you're living with your parents. And like, I don't know, do your parents make you pay any of the bills or anything? Mine didn't. No, no, no.

So like, you know, it felt like, oh my God, this is just fun money. Yeah. Every ounce of this could be spent on fun. And that was like really exciting. Yeah. I felt like I got generational wealth from that first page out. Dude, yes, yes.

I was like, this is going to last me for months. When I went to school, I was a gas peasant. What do you want? And I never changed. Never changed from that. You go off to like the lunch canteen. You're like, one of everything, please. You look at your friends,

your jobless friends and be like, someone get these beggars out of here, please. Just throw loose change at them. Yeah, put out an S tier. Yeah, S tier, for sure. Having your first drink, I won't last drink. I won't lie, I do think having your first drink is kind of mid, just because it doesn't taste good yet.

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You just, I don't think you'll ever try alcohol for the first time and like it. I think it's like a... Unless it's like something real... The first time you had a drink, you liked it? Okay, not, are we counting that fucking moment where your drunk uncles be like, take a sip or like when you actually,

the first actual time you got drunk. Yeah, because the first time I was like legally allowed to drink, I'd already had like a lifetime of drinks behind me. And I was like, Okay, well, it's nice to finally legally do it. So the first time you got drunk then, let's let's... I think there's a big difference, though,

between having your first drink and being drunk for the first time. Okay, when was the first time you had your first drink, then? What do you count? For me, it would be like, yeah, like, as you said, like the kind of cheeky beer, like my uncle or... Okay, I don't count that. I count the first time you're like having an alcoholic... This is like if I decide when I lost my fucking virginity.

The first one didn't count, because I fucking pumped and came in two seconds. That doesn't count. I saw a vagina. I've got to wait until my fucking apex. I'll wait until my first 10 minute fucking non-nut fest. I'll tell you what it doesn't count. You had one sip.

Okay, no. The first beer I fucking chugged when I was like, I don't know, like 14 or 15. It tastes like shit as well. But by the time I'm at the end of the drink, I'm like, I'm like kind of tipsy. And then now it's fun. Now it's really fun.

Right. See, it doesn't taste good. I mean, I started off with vodka coke. That tasted pretty good because it was just Coke. It was coke with... It was coke with some fun in it. With some attitude. Yeah, it was Coke with attitude.

So I didn't start off... Yeah, I didn't start off with beers. Yeah, I guess if we're talking, like, of age, first drink, then... Yeah, it was... My first of age was, like, in Germany. I think they're actually trying to change the law right now, but I believe in Germany, at least until this has changed, that, like, if you're, like, 15, you could drink beer at, like,

an October fest or some shit. Yeah, it doesn't it count as, like, a soft drink, it was only? No, no, it's not... It's not that. 16. 16 years old. Oh, but you can buy and you can buy and drink a beer. Yeah, yeah.

14 or 15 can drink with a legal guardian apparent with them. So yeah, I think they're trying to change this right now, though. Yeah. But yeah, I think I remember absolutely chugging Steins when I was like 14. And it didn't take long for me to get fucked up. Yeah. Yeah, because I was in the fucking, I was in. Dude, that'll fuck me up today.

Let alone 14. I think I was in Dachau, I think. Right. Yeah, they were like, have the pork knuckle and have a fucking Stein of beer. Damn. And by the Stein number two, I was pretty fucked up. But it was a great memory. So what was your drink of choice back when you were in your...

I still like beer. You still like beer back with the way then? I pretty quickly liked beer. No, it took me ages to like beer. Took me to a university. Yeah, I think I'm a Brit through and through, bro. I think I'm like, it was like a generation. like meoneer like coming towards me.

I was like, I do remember distinctly the first party I went to was Fosters and I was like, I don't think I like beer. Fosters is just absolutely shit. Yeah, that's just Fosters. My drink of choice was Bourbon and Cokes. What the fuck? Who is, who is this man?

Who is this bougie man? And I was, no, it was not bougie, bro. Like, we would get the fucking like 70 cent, like two liter bottle from Aldi's that was just like, it was just coke-flavored water with like the cheapest fucking bottle of bourbon imaginable. It was battery acid, bro. But, I mean, I was like, I like the taste of Coke. What are we going to put it then?

I feel like C for me personally. It's an A for me. All right, well, they'll go have a minimum. I enjoy a beer infinitely more now than the first one. Yeah, 100%. Reaching 100,000 subscribers on YouTube. Okay, well, here's this question, because we have, we have two here. And I guess these will put in for us.

It's reaching 100,000 K subs and there's one mill. Which of the two? Oh, we know the answer. Really? I mean, 100K. 100K. Okay. Means so much more.

A million subs is just another checklist on your... 100K is the difference between... Like, 100K is the point where you're just like, oh shit, this might actually be something. And then a million is kind of just like, sick, we did it. I think when we were, when we started, if you had 100K,000, you could live off of it. Yeah. Now, no, I don't think so.

Well, it depends on your business model. You could still just about get by. It would be a lot harder now. Because I remember this is such a weird memory. I remember the fucking Keemstar would like make these tweets being like, if you have 100K, quit your job.

Whoa. Yeah, I don't know that much. Quit your day job and start doing YouTube. 100K was definitely like, at least for me, the turning point. Because I was still a full-time uni student when I hit 100K. That was definitely the point where

I was like, all right, I need to just like get this fucking university paper ASAP and get out of here because I think I've found what I want to do and what I can do. Do you remember when you hit either of these masters? Because I don't. Yeah, I remember. 100K? I don't remember hitting any of these.

Really? I got locked out of my house when I hit a mill. Because I came home from uni and I forgot my key. I'll tell you what, I remember hitting 1,000 and 10,000. Damn, really? Yeah. I think I remember hitting that. I was in Japan, I think, when I hit 10,000. Have you ever made, like, a subscriber thank you video?

Fuck, yeah, I did. Is this still up? Yeah, I think so. You'll pull it up, Guy, pull it up. I think so. Let me see you this shit. Yeah, look up the anime in 100. I definitely remember making one for 100K.

I had gone for the more modern approach of thanking them during a video as opposed to making the classic. Oh, is it not showing up? 100K subscribers. Oh, I did a 1 million subscriber special. Oh, when like a fan made like this animation for me. That was really sweet. Yeah.

Wait, isn't it 100K1 not up there? Were we not in this video? I feel like we were in this video. Oh, there it is. 1000, oh, I hit a thousand subscribers. Yeah. For real. Update 4.

Let's let's see this. No, don't watch it. Let's see this. Let's see this. No. Yeah. I think I was. Oh, man.

What year was this? 2014, right? Which means I was... To the audio listeners, Joey looks very young. I was 19. You're 19? And I was in... I remember exactly where I was. I was working up in Huckabur during a ski trip. Like, I was working on the ski fields for three months.

And I hit it while I was there. Yeah, January 28, 2014. Damn, you're 19 when you get 1,000? Same here, actually. 19, yeah. I think mine was set up as well. Yeah, probably me too. I think I was 14.

You know how old it is because my website is the first thing on the top of the description. I think 18, 19 is a good, good period to start. Wait, Kai, Kai, can you search up when I hit a thousand? A thousand subscribers. Is this like this, this is the Saske hair moment? Oh, no, is it blocks in Japan? Oh, it might be blocked in Japan. No.

Okay. I'm gonna check it up on my own, on my own socials. But yeah, definitely for me, like, if we're rating the difference between a hundred K sub hit and a million sub hit, definitely 100K. Yeah, because 100K is way more satisfactory and way more like gratifying than a million. 100K is when you're doing it for the passion, man. I don't remember when I hit a million. And I also don't remember how the fuck I got to three million.

Like, I don't remember the one through three at all. I only remember a million because I hit that on New Year's. And, uh, oh, that's cool. Yeah. I think for me personally, I only remember a million because I think that was like the ceiling. for me. I never thought, not to mention, I never thought I would even hit a million to begin with, because at the time, it was like unheard of for anime channels to have a million subs to begin with. But also, I was just like, it's not going to go up from here. Yeah. Yeah, I

hit a thousand in October 2009. Damn, 17 years ago. Yeah, 2009. But that means I'd been doing it for like two years, and I hit 10,000. Let me see. I had been doing it for six months, I think. Damn, I hit 10,000. Let's see. That's the difference.

2012, I hit 10,000. Wow, it took you, damn, four years to go from 10,000. Yeah. Wow. That's a fucking grind, bro. Hey, if you're out there and you think, man, I'm not getting subsfast enough.

Bro put in four years to get nine Ks up. Yeah. Look at them now. Quit your whinging. Get back on the grind, boys. Um, okay then. So what? 100K. 100K is S tier. S tier. And then formula is A or B? I'd say A. It was still like a big, I think it was. S B. You reckon?

I'd even hazard to put it at C. Really? I'd put it in B. We can't put everything in S and B, guys. Okay, fine. Put it in C. All right. Changing niches slash content or career change. Let's be getting to speak to others. Ooh. Ooh.

I mean, this is such a gradual thing. A career change is definitely not. Yeah, changing niches content takes quite a while. And career change is not. Well, you've done a career change, gone. I have done a career change. It's exciting. It's very, very exciting to almost have a start a new stage of your life.

You're like, holy shit, I'm kind of like going into your unknown now. I'm making my own rules now. And, you know, even regardless of whether I was going to do YouTube, I was going to quit my job anyway, because you just reach a point maybe kind of similar to changing niches or content. You reach a point where you're like, I can't keep doing this. I've got to try something new and start a new journey in my life. And it's very, very exciting, but scary as well. Because it almost feels like you're going out there without a safety net anymore.

Yeah. But I feel like that feeling is important because if you always look at life as needing a safety net constantly with every decision you make, sometimes you just go into comfort and you stay in comforts and you're just afraid of change. And then you become one of those 70-year-old Japanese dudes

who'd be doing the same thing for 67 years, you know? And somehow I'm not bored of it. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, but it's also quite important to challenge yourself in some aspect. I think depending on... Especially in the creative field, like what we're in, for sure. I think definitely when you are younger and, you know, definitely in your 20s,

you kind of, you have an opportunity to fuck up in life. And the more that time goes on, the less opportunities you have to fuck up, you know? So I'd say take the opportunity to be able to fuck up because you have that ability. You have so much more time to, you know, fix. And I'm not saying getting into hard drugs, gambling, all that shit. But, you know, making a life decision where it might not work out.

The more that you, the older you get, the less opportunity of that that you're going to see. Yeah, your 20 should always be about just like struggling with things and, you know, trying to figure shit out because, like, no one knows who they are. are in their 20s and they don't know what they want to do for the rest of their lives. So it's like, why not give yourself the opportunity to do as much as you possibly can to not only figure out what works right for you, but also just like figuring out who you are. Right. Like, you know, I didn't, I didn't know who I was in my 20s and I've tried all sorts of different things. And I think I'm a little bit closer now to figuring out what it is. But if I'd never try that out, then yeah, I'd probably be stuck still at the age that I am. And that's never fun. Yeah.

So I would say, I know, this is pretty high for me. I was going to put in an A. Yeah, I'd go with A for this. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. All right, living alone. So no more roommates, just by yourself.

This is hard because I did not have fun with it. Really? Yeah. Yeah, well, I mean, in my circumstance, I got kicked out of my roommate's house, and then I was in a pretty depressed. Yeah. Well, he's not my boy. He is not my boy. Hey, that's your boy. He was my boy until he did that shit. And then I was like mad depressed living alone. So I don't have a lot of fun memories with it. But at the same time, it is. Wait, well, were you depressed because you got kicked out? Or you depressed just living alone in general you don't really enjoy? I just, I found myself while I was living alone. I just wasn't really enjoying. I mean, like, I like my alone time, of course, but like, when it's all the time, then it starts to get really fucking lonely. And like, I wasn't, I was going out less as well when I was by myself just because I couldn't really like. I think that's the danger of living alone is that you just need to make sure you're constantly being social. Yeah. And I learned that the hard way, I think. Do you know what I've realized? I've never lived alone. I'm trying to think of a period of my life where I've lived alone. I'm, I'm trying to think of a period of my life where I've lived alone. I've lived alone. I, I'm, I fucker living alone. Really?

I like it. I like that I can just do everything on my own time. That's fair. The only thing I can relate to is maybe like when Sydney goes in a fucking trip and I'm alone for like a few weeks. That's the closest thing. Because I'm kind of realizing I've either always had roommates or always lived with my partner. And I've never lived alone.

I like the idea. The idea sounds cool. I think everyone, everyone needs to go through it. I hope they don't have to go now. I think, you know, it's one of those things where you just get to learn a lot about yourself. Yeah, but like, say for example, when, like, Sydney goes on, like, let's say, like a two, three week trip somewhere

and you're alone in the house for two to three weeks. Don't you just kind of get, like, bored by the end of it? Yeah, I do. You're like a fucking dog. I do. I do not. I'm the same. No, legit.

It's just like, you know, for the first, like, maybe, you know, five to seven days, Like during that first week, it's just kind of like, all right, the wife's gone, I could do whatever the fuck I want. And then week two rolls around, you're kind of just like, I don't know what to do now. Bro, for me, it's day two. I have like two days of just like, yeah, me time. Yeah, yeah.

I'm gonna play all the games, gonna watch all the movies. I'm gonna have me time. Yeah. Day three rolls around, I'm like, damn, wanna... Yeah, I need someone to talk to. What is that to do? Am I this boring to be with myself? on my own mind. This is too much pressure.

I feel like, yeah, it can be really difficult and it can be very challenging. But, you know, it's quite nice. So just live by your own. I also think I'm an introvert as well. I'm definitely an introvert. Yes, you are. I'm introvert. You don't have to tell us, yeah, yeah.

I'm an extrovert, but I like, I don't mind living alone. I think it's because that's my, that's my, like, safe capsule of like, I can do my own shit. Maybe that's why you were extroverted, because you have that like proper alone time at home, right? So to balance that out, you like going out. I think you've got to have alone time.

It's kind of hard to exist without it. But I guess what would we rate it then? I don't know. Personally, I'd put in like a C or a D. I did not enjoy living alone. You're depressed for D probably? Yeah, D for depressed. I've never done it.

I've never done it, so I got no horse in this race. I think it's fine. It's not, it's not necessary. Yeah. Turning 10, I really don't fucking care about turning 10. I would put that. Do you remember turning? Do you remember your 10th birthday?

No, I don't know. remember shit. Um, what year was there? Yeah, I'm trying to remember what year. Oh, it was Y2K for me. Yeah, 2004 for me. Oh, it was 2000 for you? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Don't remember my birthday. Uh, pretty sucky. You can't do anything. Maybe I lived in like medieval England, it'd be a fucking milestone. Right now I'm like, I don't, I'm at the turning point of my life. Yeah. I've made it past the halfway mark. Uh, you're not even now, you're not even like one level into your tutorial then. You're still just, you're still just figuring out self-awareness. Yeah. At that point. You still haven't started high school. No. No. You'd be what,

fifth grade? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, F, just to fluff out after a little bit. Yeah. I just, I just don't remember it. Yeah. F. Turning 10. F. turning 21. Turning 21. It's 21. It's 18. It's 18. I mean, the UK and maybe Australia, it's 18 is kind of the 18. 18. 21 is a big American wall. Well, 21, I was living alone. So I don't know. That's how you celebrate it. I don't have great memories of 2021. I don't have memories of my 18th or my 21st. Couldn't tell you what I did on either.

21st, I don't remember because I was a blackout. Can we change this to turning 18? We could just do it for us internally. It doesn't really matter. Yeah, yeah. But like turning 18, I don't know. I mean, it's nice to be able to do adult things now. But I don't really recall the act of turning it being anything exciting for me.

Yeah. I mean, my 18th birthday was the one of my only birthdays that I do remember. because it was the first time you have, you have this moment where you're like, I'm going to go to my first pub or first club and they're going to check ID and my ID's going to be right, my ID's right there. See, officer, no fake ID. It's a real driver's license and I can legally drink now.

That is true. It felt like the rest of the world opened up to you at that point. Yeah, do you remember buying your first legal beer? Yeah. Right. You don't? I was with my dad, I remember. And I was just like, dad, let me handle it.

It's like in the RPG where there are certain gameplay moments that are locked out until you reach a certain level. Yeah. And then you level up and suddenly the gameplay mechanic opens up. I think maybe I just drank too much that day. I don't recall. You don't recall? Fair enough. I could not tell you what I did for my 18th birthday.

Well, you either had the best of times or... Or shit, you want to forget. Oh shit, you want to forget. I mean, I mean, I don't know. I'd say it's, I don't know. See? I mean, it's definitely better than turning 10, but is it that much higher than turning 10?

I'm not too short. I wouldn't put it as good as getting one million subscribers for me personally. Nah, that was better for me. It was, it's... So what do you want to gone? You want to fluff out B more? I want to go, I'm going to get A.

Oh, my love. Really? I was thinking like, like a... I was thinking C as well. Yeah. Because you also like, you also like, damn, I'm an adult now. You aren't, but you gaslight yourself and you're thinking you are.

You know, you're like, the clock turns over. I don't know, man. I did not feel like an adult at 21. Yeah, I'm just going to say, see. Yeah, let's put to see. Okay, I'm turning 30. Well, you just turn 30. How do you feel?

I'm mid. I mean, it's cool in some senses. Because now I'm an adult. Yeah, see, everyone thinks like turning 21 is the point where you turn into an adult. I think it's turning 30. I think 30 is kind of the, for me at least, was my like internal number of like, I kind of got to have my shit together at 30. Yeah.

Like, I don't need to know what I'm doing in life or what my direction is, but I kind of got to be a competent adult. Yes. Yeah. And I feel like I'm at that. But generally, the act of turning in 30 kind of shit. So my knees started hurting. My neck started hurting.

So I would probably put it in D. You put it in D? Oh, see, I was gonna put it higher than 2021. Yeah. I was gonna put a higher as well. Unk? I think it's... Is it cope?

How can I say this without sounding cope? You are coping. I think being in your 30s is better than being in your 20s. I fully agree. I agree. I was a guy who's just got here. I got so much to look forward to you. You just got here.

You know. No, I mean, I would agree with that, I think. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I'd agree with that. It's like, I think the biggest thing is that you're just more comfortable about who you are

whereas in your 20s you're like you're just fucking you're still figuring yourself out you're lopping. You're lopping as an adult you know you are definitely lopping as adult you don't know who you are you're still figuring yourself out and you have

you have the patience to deal with bullshit that you just don't have in you're 30s. I just feel you're like more like, also when you're 30, it's like, I feel like you're just more like, how do I say, like cognizantly awake? Like you just like, you've broken the matrix. Yeah, yeah, like, like you just feel like you figured yourself and everything around you you so much better in a way where like, yeah, like that that whole comfortable feeling,

you know, like takes over and you just kind of learn to, you know, live with who you've become and who you are and like who you are. are hopefully. So like, I don't know. For me, it's like, I think it's better than turning 21 in that aspect. All right. Yeah. Let's put it somewhere. B. Uh, yeah, B. Yeah. Let's go B. Getting fired. I've never been fired. I've never had a job. So, uh, I mean, I've never been fired. I quit both times. I've only been rejected from jobs. I would imagine this is like an F. I would imagine it's a. Yeah, this wouldn't be a good, only. I'm going to put this in F. Let's chuck it in an F. Yeah. Traveling alone.

Ooh, God be, I think for me, S tier. I love traveling alone. When have you traveled alone? So many times and I go to America. Oh, that's true. What do you mean? I'm doing that alone. What doesn't count? Because I'm meeting people there. Yeah. We mean like, you mean like fucking going on a soul searching journey? Like I go to America. If you're staying, if you go to a place and you're staying with Ludd, that's an extended sleepover, my brother. Yeah. You know, you're just going to your boy. You're just going. Traveling to your boyfriend's house is not traveling alone.

What? When I think travel alone, right? What I think is back, backing through Vietnam. Okay. I have to go to the fucking mountains of Turkmenistan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I don't have to fucking go. That's traveling.

You know, you are traveling. You're staying by yourself and... I've done that too. I couldn't recall two times I have, but I've done it. I have not done that. So I don't know. I have done that. Oh, I haven't been a fucking monk and shaved my head

and gone through a fucking temple gone. I've gone on a fucking holiday. Yeah. What does that mean? You've gone on holiday. I've traveled alone. You travel alone. Where?

Tell me. Okay, God. This is like the name of woman. Name five countries you travel to alone. What do you ask someone to name something on the spot? It becomes infinitely harder to actually thoughtfully go through it. Can I change the tone of that then? Bitch, no.

Tell me about your experience, traveling alone. Uh, they can't. This is arguably a more in-depth question. I just, Connor, you've said you traveled alone. I am being- What was your favorite destination when you traveled alone? I'm being a good conversation partner and, uh, Yeah, you're the one that's been non-reciprocary.

Well, I went to like New Jersey, I fucking traveled alone. Okay, okay, I was gonna do like a stream, you know? I'm doing all that alone. Okay. You know, okay. I'm in a hotel alone. I get there. It's lonely.

gone. It's what you want to hear. I just want to know what the experience is like. Yeah, what was like? It feels like nothing because I do the same shit when I'm like here alone. I watch YouTube videos. I work out. I do my job and that's it. Like, except I just get to board a plane. Like it's just, it's traveling is not a thing that needs to be done with people. I think for me, I flip-lop. Traveling alone is both S and F tier. Yeah, I mean, it can be a good. Depends where you're going. It can be an incredibly like lonely thing. But it can be a, uh, a really fun thing to do alone as well. Because the reason this S tier is because one of the biggest things I hate,

traveling with other people and having to feel the group vibe of what everyone else wants to do and instead of like doing the exact thing that you want to do when you go travel. You don't have to worry about that when you're traveling alone. You can go do all the experiences that you want to do, be on your own schedule and you're like, ah, this is a really cool feeling. And then you get to the point where you're like,

ah, I don't have anyone to share. share this experience with. And that's the lonely part of it. That's the lonely parts. See, my life hack is I don't set any expectations for what I want to do so that I'm basically just open to anything. Like, I don't decide what I want to do when I go traveling with people. I let other people handle that. And I'm just like, Joey's that guy. And I'm like, I will backpack wherever the fuck. I will go anywhere as long as I'm just hanging out with you guys. I'm chill. See, I know what I want to do when I travel alone. And honestly, one of the coolest things, One of the S-tier experiences when traveling alone is because you are lonely.

You are forced to kind of get, talking to strangers, talking to other people that may or may not be in your circle, just talking to other travelers. That's like such a cool fucking S-tier experience because you hear, you get to know about people from all different walks of life, all different backgrounds. And that is cool as hell. That is the part that loneliness gets you to that desperation where you're like, I am so lonely. I want other human connection. I want to, you know, get to socialize with more people. And I think it's a cool experience. Would I do it now, now that I'm married and have someone that I want to experience everything with?

No. But at a time in my life where I had a bit more freedom, I thought it was a really, really cool experience. Sometimes you just want to do something and you're just like, I just gotta do it. And you don't have to wait on someone. You don't want to have to ask. You're like, I'm just going to go to experience this.

I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to feel bad about it. Yeah. So I'd say like it, fine. Although I ask, I love it in some aspects. It's hard because... It can be hard. It can be lonely.

It can be isolating. I'd be willing to put it in B. Yeah, I think, I think, right in the middle, B for me. I've never owned a pet. owning a pet is with the next one. I don't know. I've never owned a pet. Joey, you're the only one. Oh, shit, really? I mean, I guess so. I mean, I imagine it's S tier in my head. Oh, I don't know. It's 100% NST here. Like,

no questions asked. Like, it's every moment is like a core memory that will stick with you forever, you know? So, yeah, no, no questions as an S2. Learning another language, boys? Fuck, I mean, how's your language learning journey? It's like S&F at the same time. That's how it feels to learn a language. Right. It's like one day you'll feel like, fuck I got it, man. This is sick. And the other day, like, fuck this shit.

I hate this shit. Yeah. This is like, I've never more believed in a Dunning Kruger effect than, you know, than the experience of learning another language. Yeah. I guess like maybe the hardest thing to do. Like, like as a general thing that people might attempt to do in their life, it's really fucking hard.

Oh, totally. Yeah. Like, to actually get, like, mastery over another language. It requires like when you look at your life, you look at it in quite big chunks when we're talking about this. It's a hard thing to do. Well, because it's not just about learning how to say the words and hear it, right? Like you also have to, because language is culture, so you also have to learn the culture as well, which is like another, you know, task that you have to put on top of that.

Yeah. So, yeah, it's not as easy as people say it is, especially for, you know, a language like Japanese or, you know, any difficult language. alone, right? Well, I think the biggest trip up I've had when learning a language, learning a language is, I didn't really have a specific goal in mind, I think. I think with the experience of learning Japanese, it was like, okay, I just want to get to a level where I can survive. And I've got that. We've all gotten there. And then I feel like, you know, I feel like because I'd reach my soft goal that I set, you kind of like lost that, lost a bit of that motivation to like go past that.

Because learning a language, there isn't really like, if, you know, what is the end goal of learning any language, you know? When can you say you've reached mastery of language? Can we even say we've reached mastery of English? You know, how many words do we use normally? You know, we are, I mean, I think. We are native, yes. You have a mastery over English,

you have no problem understanding it, and reading it, talking it, all the stuff. I'd say it. Yeah, again, it just- But that could be like conversational, right? That could be a conversational mastery. That, that could be a goal. Well, that's the thing, right?

There's a massive difference between fluency and proficiency, you know, like fluency, I think a lot of people can be fluent in the sense of life, you know, like you can hold a conversation, you know, you know enough to get yourself in and out of trouble. and then I, in my opinion, the level above that is proficiency where it's like you can, you know, you have no issues whatsoever and you can talk about that. And most people I feel

just kind of stop at the fluency level, whether it's like, can I talk to a native person? Can I understand a native person? Can I live my day to day with no worries? Then I don't need to learn about all of the business lingo or, you know, hyper-specific lingo and stuff like that. So I think that's where you guys are, where it's like you know enough now where you can live day to day with little to no troubles. But is there anything that's like, okay, now I'm going to go do the JLPT one? It's like, no, because it's not necessary for your line of work or your life, right? Unless you want to.

Generally, I would put this in fucking, I don't know, C, but just because of how disheartening the journey often is. But obviously, learning it and being able to apply it is very satisfying. I think it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool that you can do it. Yeah, I think like a lot of people are always kind of impressed and it's like, bro, I speak four words, you know, like when I order the beers fluently, some people are like, that's so cool. I'm like, you could do it. What do you reckon A? I mean, I'd be willing to put it in a fucking. Yeah, I just said C, but I think I think the joy is definitely. The joy is definitely up there.

Starting a business. I mean, we can how YouTube is starting a business. I don't really. We can really skip this one. Yeah. All right. You just put an F then. I told them. Getting married, don't? You have to say S. Yes, it's S tier. It's S tier.

You know. Now getting married twice. Double S tier. What about three times, you know? Triple S. Let's get those numbers up. I mean, to me, to me,

it's getting... You already have the love, you know? You're solidifying. I, okay, here's the thing. My personal experience is getting married might be different from other people was experience for getting married because to me, getting married is the experience itself was an S tier. My change in life has been like C tier because being married is pretty much the same. I don't have any difference in my life outside from having this ring on my finger, you know. And I feel like that's what it should be, you know.

If you go, if you get, go into getting married with the expectations of like, my life is going to like 180 after this, or there's something that's going to be different about our relationship after we get married. I'd, you know, I'd argue, well, probably shouldn't get married, you know. You should have a lot more legal obligations now. I mean, yeah, I guess. That's pretty much the truth. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, you're right. And they're really, I'm not stressed about that, you know. I do. see Sydney as my other half and I always have. So I was just like, oh, this is this. Because Sydney took your name, right? So that's like, well, work for her.

That'll be changed for you. For me, it's like, that's kind of easy, really. Yeah. Well, actually, she still had, like, legally on our marriage papers, she did take my second name, but we haven't gone through the process of changing it on the other documents yet.

Fair enough. So when we go through on the same, like, together in the Japanese passport line and we're like, oh, we're a married couple. We're like, we don't really have a way to prove that unless we have our official marriage certificate with us. Take our word for it. We got the rings.

Put it an S to you. Yeah. You know when you look at those like celebrities, like Wikipedia? Yeah. You see they got married like four times and you're like, do you think on the third marriage,

they really thought that was going to be it? I don't. I genuinely think that's, because we're young. Not to imply that there's, you know, obviously, but like, I do think, like, thank you, Connor, thank you. We're young, right?

But, like, I imagine, like, when you see those Wikipedia pages that, like, we don't anticipate the divorce, obviously, but you think, like, four marriages, though. Yeah, you think you figured it out by then, you know? There must have been, like, a part in the head as like, mm.

Yeah. At one point, do you, start to become the problem. Yeah. I just think about that when I'm like, because you know, things are so life

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having a partner, you know? And they don't need the young puppy dog love and all that, you know, finding a soulmate. Sometimes they just need someone to share their life with. And that is enough, I guess, when you get older. I'm speaking, like, I've experienced with this, but that's what I would imagine, you know. Fair enough. Well, check back in 10 years. Yeah, check back to 10 years.

Come back to this. Yeah. Graduating high school university. I really didn't care for this. I didn't care for this. Both of them I didn't care. I think I cared more about like getting into university than I did like. S-tier for my mom.

Was it S-T for your parents as well? No. Did you go to your graduating? I did. Graduation? Yeah, but I forgot to bring a tie. So I think my mom was kind of embarrassed because I was the only one not wearing a tie. And I just kind of rocked up in like a, like, some kind of like Ocean's 11 character.

I had a suit, fucking button undone on the top. Yeah. Like, yeah, I'll fucking take the diploma, I guess. Did you always know like a surreal experience of graduating high school and university? It's that moment when you say goodbye to some of your classmates and you think to yourself, this is the last time I'm going to see you in my life. Well, I had a friend that said that to like a couple of people. Yeah.

He would just go around and be like, you know, it's going to be the last time I see you. And I just say, you know, I don't mind. He said that. God damn. I thought it. To like most people. if not everyone, and we were like, he was like one of our closest friends.

And he's like, you know, this is gonna be the last time I've ever see you. I was like, what are you fucking talking about? Uh, you know what? He's right. I've seen him say it.

Can you blame him? I played Fortnite with him like twice. Yeah. But he was pretty determined about that, right? None of us saw him again. Maybe he just wanted to like go through a massive shift in his life. Yeah.

Are you his face with friends? He were all holding me back. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think so. But I don't think he has, neither of I posted anything.

Yeah. Yeah, no, he meant it, bro. He just went around. And we all thought he was weird as fuck for saying it at the time. Because everyone was like, man, we'll keep in touch. And, you know, obviously, you know, deep down, you won't. But he was like, yeah, no, I'm not going to see any motherfuckers. I don't care.

He was just real about it. And, yeah, he didn't. We didn't see him again. Yeah. But we all know he's like dad. Like, my mom still talks to his mom. So, like, it's not like weird. There's like, no connection there.

You hear about him, but you have a. met him since. Yeah, yeah, I think he's doing well, though. That's good. He was a small guy, and he went on to do, you know, but he was a very serious guy. So, uh, worked out for him, I guess. It's like our contract has ended. We were saying we didn't really care about graduating. Uh, high school, I didn't care. University was big for me because I moved to Japan the next day.

That's, wait, what? The next day? Yeah, I got the paper. Like, I went to the graduation. I got the paper and then I moved to Japan the next day. I mean, okay. So it was, so it was, so that was, so that was for me, like, University was like, graduated university was huge because it was like, oh, this is where like I'm moving out, I'm moving countries, like I don't have to study for shit anymore.

Like it was a huge shift for me. So high school, yeah, I was just like, whatever. So university was a big deal for you? University was a big deal for me. I were just saying, we're like, wow, I can fucking give a fun. I mean, I've logged my university graduation. I know, I remember watching the vlog. Yeah, I remember.

So that was big for me. Yeah, I mean, high school, I'm trying to remember, if, do we even have a ceremony for high school graduation? Yeah, we do. Yeah. I can't. I... It's a very, very simple... Yeah.

Simple ceremony. I don't remember that. Did we get a piece of paper to say we graduated high school? Yeah, we did. Technically, yeah. I don't know what my is. I still have my university degree. I have that one.

Yeah. I remember getting it, but... Collecting does someone. I know, I only have the digital version. Oh, really? I don't have the physical. Because I remember in Japan when we moved, they asked for it.

Oh, shit. Because they wanted the, you know, because you have to say, you have a degree. Right. Yeah. So they wanted to know. Oh, yeah. I didn't like my high university graduation because you're like, fuck, I don't have my life laid out anymore. My life, I got to figure out my own life.

You know what's so lame? The UK ones are like so much less pageantry than the American ones. So I don't even have been exposed to the American ones online. And so when I went to the UK, I was kind of disappointed. I was like, it's kind of lame. I went into a hall of the paper and they shuffled us to another room. We got like a drink. And they're like, all right, well, off you go.

And that was it. It was in the American one. It looks like this crazy fucking ceremony. Yeah. Yeah. Like they have like a fucking speech. They have speakers. valedictorial.

They have everyone in the hall. Mine was like staggered. So they were like engineers of mechanical people come in at like 120, be out by 140. Yeah. And that was it. You didn't do the hat throwing thing? Would you outside? After they've already got rid of you.

Oh, right, right. Shoot, fuck off. Yeah. And then like, now I'll have a picture. Throw your hat. All right, don't fucking let the hat go on the ground. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was very much, there was not much pageantry to it.

It was over very quickly. Yeah. Whereas I, you know, maybe maybe this because I went to a shit university and they're like, We're going to have the time to... It's out of our budget. We got the wedding photographer. He's not... I mean, I went to...

You went to a nice one. I went to Bristol. It's quite a nice university. Yeah, how was yours? Was yours fancy or... Nah. Yeah, mine wasn't fancy either. Maybe it's just for the Cambridge lot

and the Oxford's. Maybe they get. Probably jerked off by fucking Jarvis in the, like, hallway. Oh, well done, master. Two one. Most impressive, sir. Should I increase rotation? No.

No, I remember... No, I... Yeah, I remember my graduating day. It was just like, all right, when are we gonna have like one last piss up? The last... We didn't even have that.

You didn't have that? No, it was kind of like... Because at that point, most people had kind of moved out, I think. Oh, yeah, you're right. So I think I went down for the graduation, I think. Yeah. Because I would have...

Yeah, I would have gone down for the graduation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I went straight home after my graduation. So I think the moment I did my last exam, I moved out, I think. I think going home after graduating would have made me like super depressed because you're like, well, what the fuck now? Well, I had to pack.

That's true. For me, it was like I immediately started planning my move to London. So that was kind of exciting. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, we didn't know each other when. We knew each other. Yeah. So I was like, I was like, stoked.

And I remember because like everyone was like, yeah, when you move to London, I was like, yeah, I'm coming. Oh, that was like, because when we're in like, when we're in the porn house, you were talking about moving to London. Yes. What? When we had one of our first hangouts, we got drunk for like three days straight.

We, I guess gone, couldn't find an Airbnb. So he found one location. And then like, it was, I'll explain for my scenario because my mom always brings this up. She's like, you're going to go meet a guy you met online and stay with him for three days and his friends. I was like, yeah, it's going to be sick. And I get there.

And I have to go to some weird ass back alley in an industrial area. of Manchester. It was opposite of prison. It was opposite of prison. It was opposite Manchester. And like in the UK, it's not like Japan.

They zone the fuck out of these places. So if you're in that, if you're in an area like that, it's because they want all the shit that they don't want normal people to look at. Right. So we go in and it's like, it's in a back alley

and it's got like a shutter that had to be like fucking pulled up. When we get in, I'm in this Airbnb and the whole first floor is under construction. It's just like blank. It's like the back rooms. there's just planks of wood everywhere

and like nails sticking out and then I'm like, hello? No one says anything. And then two minutes later, someone comes down. They're like, oh, we're all upstairs. Go upstairs. And it's like, cash me a floor. Everything is a couch.

And then the first room I see is like a couch room where every single thing is a cushion in this room. And all the walls are like sequins. But the whole room floor is just like couches. Not couch or sorry, like cushion. I was like, that's weird. And the next room I go into, it's like all black, like Gothic. And it's all silk.

It's all silk. And on the wall, they have like different gags and different ropes. And then next to each side of the bed is like whips. And I was like, gone. I swear God is really good at finding Airbnbs that are in the most questionable locations. Because I remember one of the times at anime expo, like, Years ago. Oh my God.

That was just LA. That was just downtown. Dude. No, but it was down the scariest. I walked by that. I walked by that last time. And I thought to myself, if I see this hotel on the right,

it's definitely this alleyway. Yeah. I saw the hotel. I was like, holy fuck, that was the alleyway that we'd go into. Yeah.

And it was like, it was like the scene where fucking Spider-Man's dad got fucking shot. It's like that kind of alleyway. It's really dingy and, yeah, it was terrifying. It's fucking depressing.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it was an Airbnb. But it was cheap. It was cheap. It was cheap. And everyone could end. We had a, we had a bang all the time.

Yeah, that porn house was something. And then I remember that was how I kind of, we kind of really became friends. Yeah. In the porn house. It was the point house. Say what you want. We all had to,

because there was like 15 of us. Yeah. And there was like three rooms. Yeah. We all just kind of had to like pick a room and sleep on the floor. Well, the couch floor. That one got a lot of usage. Oh, yeah.

I was like eight people sleeping in that. Yeah. So that was it. Yeah. And I threw up on the floor. Not on the valour. I threw up on like the valour. Alan bless his heart was like helping take care of me and clean it up.

He was a real one. That's why I knew we were going to be friends. Yeah. He helped me. He did a bro move for me. Yeah. Alan, Alan is like the token janitor at every boy's night. He's a bro.

He's a bro. He took care of us. Yeah. Yeah, I got a little excited in the porn house. and I threw up. So, TLDR, DLDR, granted out afterwards,

none surprisingly, that they also film, it was an Airbnb, but they also filmed porn there sometimes. Yeah, that makes sense. Every time I watched a porn with British actors or something,

I would always just think, I wonder if it was in Manchester. You're like looking around, but I'm pretty sure they were hiring out to like swingers and, oh, geez and stuff to. Yeah, for sure.

Yeah, because I, I remember, like, going to pay for this Airbnb, for some reason, I don't remember, I don't know why, but I had to pay cash, right? I can tell you why, God. Because I don't think, well, that's not a good sign.

I'm realizing this now, but I'm like, wait, Airbnb, you normally have to pay, you have play credit card, right? Just when we say Airbnb, we mean like. Yeah, I remember it wasn't Airbnb or some- Big space you can rent for people to say. Yeah, it was a group renter website, had to pay by cash. I remember it was, everyone had gone, everyone had gone to like Manchester station. It was just me and Sydney waiting to meet the owner and give, give my cash money.

And this car rolls by, a big Polish man, like, walks out. The big, bold Polish man walks out. And so we, we exchange the cash. And then as we're exchanging the cash, this. even bigger guy walks out the car. He has bright yellow shorts on in like the drearyest day in Manchester, by the way, holding some big camera equipment. And the guy goes, just over there.

Yeah. And I'm like, what fuck is going? We just finished shooting the porn. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, right after us, right? On corners, puke? They're going to be sitting in corners puke right there? It is a miracle that, like, bro, there's probably every STD.

to man in that building somewhere. Yeah. Yeah. I became like syphilactic after I fucking slept on that couch. But it's fun time. It was fun weekend. Yeah. Graduate high school, mid as fuck. Yeah, mid, CTA. C.

Getting your first job. I think the act of getting your first job is like hell high. Yeah. Working the job? Not so high. But actually getting the job feels awesome. I would say getting your first. So there's two different experience for me, getting my first, like, part-time job as a teenager and getting my first,

like, adult job, my first office job. And, uh, that's pretty hype. That, I've never got that. Yeah. The office job? The office job. Uh, it's pretty hype because number one, you've probably gone through about fucking, God knows, uncountable amount of interview sent hundreds of different applications off. Yeah. And then you get to this one job and you're like, wow, I just got through the goddamn hunger games here. I am sitting at a desk and I'm doing adult stuff and you meet your manager and your manager is giving you tasks and you're settling in and you're like, I made it. And you're like, oh, I made it.

And then for that first month, you're like, oh, I'm an adult now. And then life doesn't change. And it kind of sucks. And you do the same thing every day. And then you realize that everyone in your fucking company is incompetent. And this idea that you are entering a real adult company with competent adults. And then you realize the more years you spend there, the more you realize this company is being held by strings. You don't know how anything functions.

You don't know how they're making a profit. But somehow it works. And the company doesn't go under. And it keeps chugging along. And you're like, wow. How is this happening? My only ever experience at an office job was when I interned at that IT company in Japan for three months.

Yeah, I wanted to persona myself by the end of that one. I was like, that gave me the motivation to not want to do this. I interned at like a wind farm company for a month. It was like, I don't know. There was nothing for me to do because I was just an intern. I think they just wanted to like tick off some

government scheme saying they'd accepted interns. But there was nothing for me to do. So it was kind of like, I was like, what am I doing, bro? Yeah, wasting time. I was like sitting at this PC, like clicking things. Yeah. I became very good of solitaire.

They had a boiling water tap, so I made cups of teas every five minutes. It was kind of boring. Yeah. So it wasn't like an experience that I could utilize it all. Yeah. But getting the job,

even part-time job, was pretty hype. Getting your first job is pretty hype. Yeah. What do you reckon? A. A? B. I think S.

Honestly, that feeling, that rush. Rip it, rip it, bro. That rush of not being unemployed. Because the next one's going to ask for me too, living overseas. Oh, yeah, yes for sure.

Living overseas is so fucking high. Yeah, 100%. Even if you don't fuck with the country, you know. Because when I moved to a different part of the UK, I, you know, I mean, I moved. But everything's, the comforts are there. everything is safe.

There's something truly scary and exciting about starting from zero at a place and like having to figure shit out. Like it's stressful. It sucks. But it's also like so rewarding. And I think changed me more than anything else that I've ever done in my life. Like that was the biggest change. Yeah. Yeah.

I honestly think that going out and trying to live abroad, It broadens your horizons so much, even if you end up not liking the place. You learn a lot about yourself. You learn a lot about what you value, what you look for. And you will never get that living, you know, in the same place. Living, living in the same place. Yeah, for sure. And I will always recommend it, even if, yeah, like I said, whether you have a good experience or bad experience.

Overall in your life, it is going to be a positive experience. Because if you move out and move back, you realized you, you end up realizing the things you valued at home, you value them even more so. Yeah, and you've come back with like experience that you would have never learned otherwise. Exactly. Exactly. So it's always, it's always a positive. Yeah. So ST experience for me. Yeah.

Having roommates. F. Yeah. Okay. I was going to say, because like I had F tier roommates the first time by the end of university because I moved every year. Yeah. Uh, they moved every year. I went to two different houses, so I must have stayed in one for two.

I think I, when I moved, I think it was F, then it was D, and then it was like S, I think. Like when I had great roommates, it was awesome. It was so sick. Because I ended up staying in that one house for two years, but some of the guys swapped out. So like, I think we'd lose a roommate. Like, oh, dude, like the first roommate I had, we had, we'd throw four things, but then one of the guys fucked up his degree so badly that he was like, I'm quitting. So we quit right before and we were panicking because then we were like, fuck, we're going to have, our rent's going to increase by like a third. And we're broke students.

So we, some random girl just like stayed with us. And she like, bro, no, she never spoke to me. She was like mute. I don't know. I tried to be like social. but I think she was scared and then we had this other guy in our dorm

didn't have like having sex with her and I was like I was like dude do you like her he was like fuck no I was like why'd you do it he's like I don't know I was like what are you gonna do

you fucking live with her you idiot he's like yeah probably should stop doing it he didn't stop doing it and it just made it like worse over time I was like bro what are you doing Jesus Christ then she moved out

shocked to nobody yeah and then we we had another guy join us. He was really cool and I liked him. And then it was a, it was a good, a good squad. It was pretty nice. Like, and, uh, we'd always hang out in the living rooms. I remember we were just, we were just cute like, dang, dank meme playlist. It would just fuck around. It was far as fuck. And then one of the guys at a car, you'd be like, you want to go to Tesco's at like midnight? I'd be like, that sounds fucking

awesome. Oh, love to go. That sounds sick. Let's tell you. So I had like, when you get roommates that are actually so fucking awesome and don't, don't cause any problems and don't, like, literally don't take away at all. It is genuinely fucking sick. You just have awesome friends

who live in your house that you can hang out with any time. So that was awesome. But when I had bad roommates, I mean, as you all know, which is very easy to do, fucking awful. It was so terrible.

Yeah. Although my last fucking house sucked too. We had rats. I had great roommates, but we had rats. the oven was a fucking fire oven. It was like an oven that like genuinely just had a fire in the back

and it was so hard to cook because the thing would be like, put it to 280 degrees and I was like, so big fire or small fire, I'm not sure. And so over it like, it was literally only two settings.

It was like fucking like on or off. It was like on or fucking molten lava. And so there was no different. It was fucking useless for cooking things. But so you think F, I mean, let's put it in D then. Yeah.

I mean, I said F, but I liked one of them, so we'll put it in D. I mean, I've had F, I've had S. I still don't think it's out of two of the times, one of the time, this second time I liked some of them, I really didn't like some of them. So it was kind of a mixed bag. But all it takes is one bad roommate, I think, out of the bunch to have a bad. To ruin the vibe of it. Yeah, it does take away a lot.

For sure. And all it takes is like, even if they're chill, and I kind of liked all of them, but two of them were really fucking messy and it ruined it because like our bathroom would just have mold and shit and like they would never clean up after themselves they would use my fucking shampoo it's like bro

we're not at that level of like roommates where we're sharing all this shit you know your shampoo bitch I can see your bottle's been empty for three months stop using my fucking shampoo also I just like the feeling of having your own living room I know living room with roommates is like the communal space, right?

I didn't want to use it, but I never feel truly comfortable in the living room unless it's just like my living room. Can I say I did like, maybe this is a dick move. Okay. You can tell me if this is a dick move. Okay.

So all of us did not live or were local to the area. So we all were far away. So we signed all the papers and someone had to, I think, get the keys. And I volunteered. I was like, I'll go early.

And I went early. And so I booked a train, paid a fuck ton of money just to go there, just to claim a room. I mean, first come first up. You showed initiative. I kind of said to the group chat, I was like, guys, I'm going. And I was like, by the way, I claimed a room.

I mean, you deserved it because you were the first one there. And I claimed the fucking awesome room. It was the attic room. So I had to go up like two flights of stairs, but I had like the whole. Did you get more space than everyone else? So much more room than everyone else. And you should be paying more.

Yeah. Then yeah. Pay more. Yeah. I think I paid equal still. Damn. Okay, scammed. But also low IQ from your roommates

because if that was me, we, like, we had a discount, because I got the big room and I was, I was like... How did you measure the room area? Because, like, also not all room area is equal. Like, some of its unusable extra space. Just a vibe check, right? Yeah, it's just, it's, you know,

you're in a... It's a negotiation. You're like, okay, I'll take this room and I'll pay just a little bit extra. You know, how's that? How's that? because I was working a job at the time as well and had like a little bit of extra YouTube money to work with.

I think it's probably different when you're all working versus students because I think student vibe was like, nah, that makes sense. He claimed it. Yeah. So for the next year, I've just got to deal with that. But I think if they had come to me and been like,

we've spoken, we think you should pay a little extra. I think I would have. I would have had no qualms about it. Because I think I'd been like guys, I'm doing YouTube. I need a bit of privacy. And they're all like,

no, it's cool. Yeah, it makes sense. Yeah. They never wants to ask me for more money. I would have paid it, but I never did. Maybe I was just cool like that. Maybe I was just fucking chill. I was also not messy.

They used my shit all the time, so I was like, whatever, man. It's like, one of the guys was ordering Adderall from like China. It's like, bro, I'm not going to use your communal.

I'm not using the communal adderol. Communal Chinese Adderall. He did not make it through college, as you can imagine. Yeah. So I don't think he made it very far. Also, someone burning incense?

It does smell. Can you smell that? I can smell that. Okay, I thought it was burning incense. I think it's upstairs. I thought I was going to, you should probably check. I was like, I was like. Unless we got a very good smelling fire.

I was like, am I having a stroke right now? All right. Someone rip a fart right now. Yeah. It'll level it out. No, I can definitely smell that. Okay. I thought I was going crazy.

Oh, shit. What? Okay, okay. Okay. A little bit of a scare there of you. As we maybe thought, because we had a lot of studio lights. They get very hot. Something could have happened.

So I think, yeah, roommates is pretty brutal. Yeah, we do smell like boys in here. Boys with a capital B. Quitting a job you hate. Well, you've never done this. I'd like to hear Ganspin on this. For me, I assume it's an ass. No.

Because I think like, I hated McDonald's a lot. And I hated it because I felt like it was demeaning. People treated me like shit. My colleagues are the worst. my boss sucked. It was pretty much everything they like stereotypical bad about jobs was this. And like you would think the act of quitting would feel good.

But it's just kind of a shit experience. Like having to quit, having to explain, having to go through all that. It was kind of a like shitty experience. Like I don't think quitting a job is like moving on is great. Being in a better place is great. But the act of having to actually go through that process of quitting is actually not that fun for me.

maybe Garn can add to that a little bit. However, working your dream job is S, which is what we have. I mean, this is the most S of S is in my life. I think we can put that up there without Gant's input. Gant quitting a job you hate. I said, like, yeah, obviously on paper it sounds cool, but the act of actually quitting a job is kind of a cumbersome thing. It's not so simple as just being, I quit.

It's a bit of work and then finding something new. Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't even say I quitted. my job that I hated. You know, I wanted to change in my life, but I've heard of worse job experiences than me. I, you know,

I just didn't want to be stuck in like the same grind doing the same thing. Honestly, my, my experience of quitting my job was pretty pleasant, actually. Were they, like, understanding? They were very understanding.

They wished me well on my way, all my, all my coworkers. I mean, it's the BBC, I'm sure, hundreds of thousands of people have quit that job. Yeah, yeah. Changed around, right? Yeah, McDonald's, they were not kind

about it. Really? Yeah. Oh. Maybe that's my fault because I was like, I think I'm better than this. Did you say that? Yeah. I said that. Yeah, I was about to ask, like, how did you do it? Like, you just walk in and be like, fuck all of y'all. I'm out of you. No, I, she was, she was cheering me out because I remember at the time, they had

fuck, it might have been like physio-o-o-as. Is that what the drink's called? Yeah. Physi-o-o-o-s. They had oasis on the, tap. And it was like a premium product. And company policy was like, you can't have any of the fountain drinks that aren't water on the companies like time. On your break, when you get a meal, you can have it. But, you know, whatever. When you're working, you can't have it. And so like, I was like, fuck it. I'll just fucking get up. Get the oasis. It's premium. It tastes like,

it's fucking good. If I try, I get a sip. Fucking chew me out. And at this time, I was like, I was one on the quit anyway. And I was like, I was sick of this bullshit. I was like, this is so fucking fucked up, bro. Why the fuck? It's, by the way, it's in the same fountain. It's not even like it's a different area. The water is in the same fountain as the fucking, I was like, bitch, why can't I, I didn't say bitch. I said, I was like, I was like, I understand whatever. She's cheering me out. She's cheering me out. And I'm not shouting at me. And I, like, also in front of customers and like the other staff. And I'm like, you know what? I quit. And then she's like, what? I was like, yeah, I don't want to do this anymore.

And then she's like, okay, found out of my fucking office. So I go to her office, but she's like a cupboard. And she's like, she's like, why would you want to quit? And I said,

well, I don't want to be here. He's like, why? I was like, this is like a stepping stone. I want to do some other shit. She's like,

a stepping stone. What do you mean to stepping stone? She's like, do you think you're too good for this? I was like, yes. I'm not like you, bitch.

Yeah, she asked if I thought I was too good for this. And I said, yeah. And then I think she was like taken aback. I was like, what do you? I was like, then I was like, what? You think I wanted to be here?

I don't want to be here. Nobody wants to be in McDonald's? You, you're the manager. You get paid better than me. Yeah. Good for you. I hate this shit. I get paid four pounds 10 an hour.

I don't want to fucking be here. You kidding me? Yes, this is beneath me. Bitch? I didn't say bitch. In my head, I want to say it so bad. Did you also have to go in for like two weeks afterwards?

after that point. Yeah, yeah. I would have been an awkward two weeks. No, I was chill. It was kind of nice kid. But also, there was definitely people who like, I think she told. So a lot of the people were like,

don't I think it's too good for it. And at that point, I was like, yes. Yes, I am. I'm never seeing any of you fuckers again. Yeah. I was never seeing you guys again. I was like, I cannot wait to be done. I'm doing my two weeks because I want more money.

Because I had another job lined up. which is the lifeguarding thing. But that way didn't start for another like four months. So originally I was going to wait until I was done. But then I was like, ah, fuck this shit, bro. I'm not doing this shit anymore. Fair enough.

Fuck this shit. All right. So where would you put quitting a job you hate in? Like, see. Like whatever. See, gone? Yeah. Had its benefits.

Yeah. All right. Fair enough. We put working your dream job in ass. I think this is like maybe the greatest of S is for me. Yeah. Tom marriage. Working at YouTube?

Hell yes. Very sick. First expensive. purchase. Oh. Kind of beast mode. Kind of sick. I'm not gonna lie.

What do you define as the expensive purchase though? Like what, can you name your first expensive purchase? Probably like buying a beast PC was like truly the like thing that I went kind of a little like... That's so gamer of you, bro. But that was kind of like the most awesome thing as well. Yeah. Like being able to look at a PC and go, more. More specs.

More RAM. Oh, RAM. Bigger graphics card. And the price was going up and I was like, yes, I can afford this. Like, it was kind of awesome. But like that was literally like, I think I spent like, you know,

like 5,000 pounds at the time, which was by far the biggest budget. Obviously at the time, I'd already signed up to, like, by the way, the most expensive fucking university course, buying rent, like all this shit. Oh, this isn't university?

Yeah. What the fuck? Damn. What'd you get your money from? You have the cash money. Oh, we got his fucking YouTube. I saved up because I didn't spend, like, I spent barely any of my,

my money when I made money for McDonald's. I spent it on the Xbox. Guess what? They didn't release any fucking games. So I couldn't even spend the fucking money on anything. So I had bought, like, Halo, and that was it. That's all I could play. So I was like, I was working and I was like, this sucks.

I'm working for nothing. So I was like, I guess I'll save. So I saved up, which actually was very useful because then I went to university, I was like, yeah, I'm not hurting for money. Yeah. I think by the time I went to university, I had like, like, 5K.

Yeah. So that was great. Um, I, I think my first big purchase was an Xbox 360. I don't get that as big. That's, that to me was big. Yeah, that was big. Yeah, that's what we need established first. Yeah.

What, like, what's the threshold here? Oh, you think I had like 5,000 pounds to throw about in university? No, but like, you could tell me like your first big purchase, like a car or something, right? I think an Xbox, it's not a big purchase. That's a big purchase. That's not a big purchase. It's a big purchase. If your parents could buy it for you for Christmas, it's not a big purchase.

Right. I think that's, I think that's bad. I think it needs to be beyond the scope of a gift. Like, oh, like, because a big purchase, nobody's sitting here being like my life milestone,

buying that Xbox 360. It's like, it was for me? No, it was for me. Are you kidding me? Buy the Xbox one that I worked hard for with my money. You know,

I bought that. That was in, that was like I was 16, you know? Yeah, exactly. That was my first big purchase. That was,

that's life changing. Literally like, tell me a more life-changing thing than being able to buy your first game console. But you had game consoles before this. Not relying on Christmas. I don't think this is a big purchase. That's crazy.

We're talking about first expensive purchase, by the way. That is expensive. That's expensive. No, it was big. You could get that in... You could realistically have bought an extra 360 and like a decent paying job in one shift. What are we accounting as expensive then?

What I think is expensive is like, Like it's a- Something that you can't gift to someone during Christmas. Yeah, I think that's a fair milestone. Like something that you would never even reasonably consider as a reasonable gift for someone. No one would gift me in Xbox 360 for Christmas. Are you kidding me?

Your parents might. That doesn't count. That's like- Yes, it does. That comes off to- What do you think? What do you make of this? I mean, the first thing I came to my mind

was actually getting like a console. That's what I'm saying. That's a normal expensive purchase. No, no. I think the question obviously is not, because for everyone it would be something around that range, right? Right? Like, I think it's, the question is asking, hey, something, a purchase that's big.

It's really a big purchase, the first one. You're talking like four or five figures. It can even be a house for some people, you know? Like, it's like, that's what I'm thinking. That means like, that would mean like some people would never have had an expensive purchase in that life. Some people don't. I mean, if we're not counting Xbox, no.

I don't know what we're counting. I don't know what we're counting. Because I don't count like, you know. Buying a car, buying a... Yeah, I was thinking like four to five digit. Maybe, yeah, maybe you're buying that expensive bike for maybe you're a cyclist. You know what I mean? That kind of like initially it is one of those purchases that now maybe is a full working

adult with a bit more money. You wouldn't think of as like a crazy expenditure. But back then when you first start making money is a really big purchase. I'm trying to think. It could even be an insane suit, a bag that is crazy or like a piece of jewelry that's crazy. You know, I think these like initial purchases the first time you buy them is kind a big deal. I've never done it. I think I guess by your, I'm not Mr. Monk. All right. I guess by your, I guess by your personal, I think my first expensive purchase was probably

my Vesper. Yeah, that's, there you go. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. When did you buy that? Huh? Like three years ago. But, you know, in terms of like, in terms of like effort to save up and purchase this and changing my life. It's fine, put your fucking Xbox. Xbox 360 mocks out, man. I'm gonna say it, man. Okay, fine, fine, are you kidding me? It's not even the same stratosphere.

Okay, fine, fine. All right, what is it? Is it D or what? If I'm talking Xbox 360, that was just. Oh, fuck. This is unfair, though, because mine was the Xbox one and that was like going to be, my hopes, the next 360 but better. Right. And if it was 360, I think yes.

But if it was fucking Xbox one. That feeling of first buying it, right? You can own money. No, that was cool. Yeah. It was cool. Yeah. Yeah, that was like S tier for me.

Yeah, I think, I agree. I think it's an S tier. Fine. Fine. Because my first expensive purchase wasn't even for me. It was for my dad. I was like, yeah, my first purchase was, yes.

That time where we bought our first five. A console, that was ass. Our first five bedroom house. You know, that was a fine purchase. A simple purchase. You know, we didn't need a mortgage. And I told them cash. Bit of change.

Yes. Moving in with your partner, boys. What are you? I mean, S to you, bro. Okay, okay, okay. You have to say yes. Um, then got me out of the fucking depressing state, that's for sure. You'll hold up.

Oh. Oh. You'll hold up. All right. Hold up. Go on, man. You had a healthy, healthy progression of your relationship. Yeah, and as someone who's about to be married to said partner,

I don't think I can say anything other than this. Well, someone who is married to you. Yeah, you've had some time to think about it. Um, yeah, uh, moving in with your partner after knowing her for a month, um, after dating her for a month. Yeah, I guess that's a big difference. That's like crazy, this was a month. This was two and a half and I still cannot believe you did that.

And her flying across the country to be with you, we went through a trial by fire. And we came out the other side. Very, I mean, now there's nothing that can break us. Yeah. You know, it's fucking Sydney. I should say yes, dear. All right, let's go to the next one.

Losing outgrowing a friendship. Ooh. I mean, no one likes losing a friendship, but I don't really mind outgrowing a friendship. I think it's a natural progression, honestly. That's just your 30s, right? That is true. You know when you talk to that one mate sometimes,

you're like, how the fuck have you not changed at all? Like, it's almost impressive how little you've changed. It's kind of crazy, though, and scary at the same time. But you're like, damn, that could be me. I could be that guy. Yeah. How does that happen, though? I don't know.

There's also some people in my life where I'm like, I think we're still friends. We haven't spoken in a while, but I know I could hit you up and they'd be down to hang out. Yeah. You know? It's weird where, especially in your 30s,

you kind of like, low-key, like maybe lose some friendships, but it's more like you just kind of like drift apart, maybe because everyone has less time, the more they grow up. Yeah, they're busy doing their own adult shit. Yeah, they're busy doing their own adult shit. Maybe some people have gone kids

and they've got a lot less time to hang out. For sure. Maybe some people are going through their life change and, like, I, you know, I'm going to my... I'll come back. I'll come back. I'll wait, bro.

I'm always here. Totally. Yeah, losing a friendship. I haven't lost that many friendships. I'm trying to think of. I'm growing a friendship. Honestly, though, you probably forget. I've forgotten a lot of friendships.

I mean, okay, are we counting the friendships that we grew apart from in high school? I think anything. Anything? Just in general, I think. It's a normal thing. I honestly, I would almost put it in half because I don't think about it.

And I don't care. Yeah, but like, how is it? I've never, like, mourned a loss of a friendship. Hmm. I know some people that have, definitely have had that happen to them. Yeah. It sounds like pretty sucky. Um, but yeah, I mean, luckily it hasn't happened to me.

But, because the moment I, like, lose one, it's normally because, like, some shit went wrong. And I'm like, bitch, I don't need this. I'm out. It's like, I ain't got time for this. No, I don't have time for this shit. Yeah. So. Yeah, I guess you just chuck it in F then.

Yeah, fuck it. Whatever. Making close friends as an adult. Is it like making, like successfully doing or trying to make friends as an adult? I think it's in the case of successfully making? I don't know. I wouldn't be making a close friend as an adult versus... What age are we counting here?

30s. Oh, I mean, over like... I'm assuming this just means. like once you're like in work and you kind of a quote unquote normal why. Yeah, let's say, let's say from late 20s. I don't know. I mean, our job is uniquely positioned where we are kind of forced to interact with new people kind of semi often. So I've found no issue doing it. And, you know, I've made some very lifelong friends

in recent years and that's been very rewarding. Yeah. I think I just never close myself off to a new friendship, which I think some people do. But I was excited to meet new people. I was excited to make new friendships. You never know. Yeah. I mean, I think my biggest barrier right now is not so much the want to make more friends. It's just time. Yeah, time's a big one. I struggle to juggle the friendships I have. Yeah, exactly. But sometimes you meet someone, you're like, we don't know so fucking well. This is sick. Yeah. I think that's one of the best feelings. Just meet someone and then you both get the same vibe of just like, damn, we should hang out more. And we both want to hang out more as an adult. Because

The reason I say as an adult, as a young adult, early 20s, you're like, fuck, I got to hang out with everyone. I'm not going to say no at all to any hangouts. And even if someone invites me something and I don't really think it's my vibe, but I don't really want to go to it. I'm going to say yes anyway. Why not? I'm going to say yes.

And you have a fucking awful time and you gaslight yourself and you're thinking, yeah, but I can make friends. But as an adult, since everyone has less time, when you find that one new friend, that one connection that you're like, damn, it was just, generally just bun hang out of you. And I would like to do that more. And I feel like, I feel like we are, feel like we are the same in that way.

Yeah. Yeah, that's a good feeling. Yeah, it's a very, very good feeling. I'd say A tier. Sure. I'm down for A tier. I agree. Yeah. Falling in love.

I mean, you guys S tier. What are the emotion everyone fucking sings about? I mean, yeah. It's got to be S tier. It's the most universal feel good thing. I feel that we can experience. It's pretty good. But caveats.

No? Caviats. Okay. Have you ever had a moment in your life when you thought you were in love? But you were just a young teenager. Yeah, of course. Yes.

Of course. Absolutely. Yes. I had that many a times, right? I don't know. Thanks for reminding me. I assume this means real love. So I'd put it in ass.

Okay. Let's put it in this. Yeah. Oh, this is rare. To go off of that. None of that's fake love shit. Your first breakup when you're like, real breakup or like Google Gaga relationship breakup? Ah, I'd tell you first real breakup.

Yeah, that shit sucked. When you thought you were in love, you're like, this is it. Were you broken up with or did you break up with the first time? I broke up with her. How was that from your perspective? I mean, it sucked, obviously, because she cried and, you know, no one was happy. Did you have that thing where, like, for the like,

next 24 hours, you're like, did I do the right choice? Oh, yeah, 100%. Yeah. Pretty brutal. Dude, on the way home, I felt that. I was just like, fuck, man. Like, seeing how she reacted to it, I was just like, what made you want to break up?

Um, we just, I don't know. We just didn't really connect in, like, anyways. Like, her interests were completely different to mine and like, yeah, I don't know. It was just like, yeah, I don't know. It's like, the more I got to know of her, the more I realized that I might not be the right fit, is what I realize very quickly.

And you know, you know it's always bad when it gets to the point where it's just like you prioritize your friends and your hobbies over her. That's when you know where it's like, I don't think it's gonna work.

Like it's not a you thing. It's just we're not compatible in any way. Yeah. Yeah. So I had to be the one to break up with her and I was just like, I felt fucking terrible. But, you know,

after a little bit of thought, I was like, I think that was for the best. And I think it was. Damn, must be nice to have the power to have made. made that decision. No, I think it's worse. No, I think it's worse, too. I think being broken up

with, at least like, I don't know, there's some kind of choice that's been dealt to you. Have you ever used the line? It's not you, it's me? I think I did say that. I think I ironically did say that. Because I think they truly mean it. They're like, yeah, you've done no fault. No, that's the thing. Yeah. In my situation, it was like, it really was not her. It was me. It's just like, I, you were a wonderful person. But it is her. But it's just we're not compatible. That's all it is. Yeah.

And that's just how the world goes, you know. Yeah. I think I had like three or four months relationships that were not really anything serious. But I still think when I got broken up with, because I think exclusively for the first like four I got broken up with. Yeah. Horrible track record. Not that it should be at even KDA spread.

I don't know if that's the case either. Damn, 0 to 4 is crazy. I was like 0 and 4. And every time felt like my life was over. Yeah. That shit hit me so hard. Yeah. I think regardless of which side you're on,

like a guy either getting broken up with or one breaking up, it's fucking terrible. The first long one I think I broke up with, and it was a very weird breakup. It was kind of like, I think I remember she asked, do you have fun with me? And I think something in my head clicked or I was like,

I don't think so. And then that was it. Then she was like, did you say that? Yeah, I said that. Fuck me, man. This is you,

you're quitting of relationship like you quit McDonald's. You're like, What do you mean? I think that's a pretty, like, should I have lied? You think you're above me? Yeah. Did you have fun with me? Nah.

You're just the stepping story. Nah. It's something better. By the way, I'm above this. No, she asked me if I had fun anymore. And I think, like, in that moment, I was like, there was just this wave of like, I just got to be honest. Oh, I thought he said, did you ever have fun?

No, no. I think it was like, do you have fun with me anymore? Yeah. Like, is it, you know, and I think I was like, I think truthfully, like, don't. Damn, I miss out there. I was like, damn, that's cold as fuck, man. I mean, it felt cold. I never had fun. It felt cold because it was like watching someone's like, I guess like face kind of turned from that. And it's like, I just, like, what do you just fucking lie forever?

Like, yeah. So I was like, I'll just say it. And I remember it was just pretty brutal. And I felt fucking awful about it. Yeah. You know, obviously, you know, the days after you think, fuck, did I make the right choice? I don't know. And obviously you miss having someone that, you know, as time goes on, you're like, no, I didn't make the, I, if anything, I waited too long.

So what was the reasons that your first four relationships where they broke up with you? I think I was just fucking weird. How did it happen? They were just like, yeah, we can't do this. I think they never lasted more than like four months or six months. You know, they were never anything. Just come off to Connor. Like, you're weird, bro.

I think like I was trying too hard. Like, I think I, like, instantly they text me. Boom, response. Right. Like, I think I was too much because I was like, trying to be, because like, I think at that age, I really, like, pride of myself on being good at everything because I, like, was really, like, quick to adapt to a lot of things. I got things really quickly. And I think, like, in my head is, like, I can be relationships too. I can be

awesome of this. I'm being fucking sick. And I think I was, like, way too overbearing, like, all the time. And I think that also came from my own insecurity of, like, am I good at this? Am I a good boyfriend? Am I doing good? No, for real? Like, tell me. No, we should hang out, like, today. We should call every day. You know, just kind of too much for, like, anyone. Yeah. And then I think I swung in the opposite direction where I then became like, yeah, I'm going to disappear for like a week. I'll message you. Like, what? I'm like, no, I'm just going to hang out with the boys or some shit. Yeah, right. Okay. So I've got to find the happy medium. Yeah. Where we were putting it? I was got to ask. Like, this is probably one of like the worst life things that you go through. You're just like your life is over. You're just like your life is over. Even if you know it's. You're just like your life is over. Even if you know it's. It's not. You just think it is. And there's something about your mental state that just cannot let you get over it. Yeah. At least initially. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Getting in shape. I mean, are we there yet or have we started? Are we starting? I'm getting in shape. It implies we have done it. Uh, yeah, I have not done it. So I'm still- No, you're in shape. I'm not satisfied with it yet. I'd say you're in shape. Yeah. I'd say you are in a shape. Yeah. I'd say you are in a shape. Yeah. Brown.

Like you are able to exercise regularly. Yeah, but that's also because you've seen me at my skinniest as well. You saw me when I was a fucking walking skeleton. What is your goal then? What is, when are you going to be in shape? Um, I don't know. I'm just kind of vibe coding right now, honestly. Like, I'll, I'll figure it out.

Like, it's, I think it's the day where I can look at myself, like, in the shower mirror and be like, you know what? Yeah. I mean, the act of getting there, it got to be an ass, but. Yeah. Sorry, the active, when you get that, that is not an S. But starting it, fuck, maybe it's like a D or an F, bro. It fucking blows to start it. But then it slowly climbs up right above the ranks.

Once you get more confident and you start enjoying it. The after workout pump is probably an unrivaled, like, like, look, when you look in the mirror and you're like, damn. Yeah. Bam, I'm the goat. I don't know. Every time I go swimming, there's a giant mirror afterwards, and I feel huge afterwards.

and I look at my myself, I'm like, nice. Yeah. Who are you getting in shape for? Are you getting in shape for yourself? Myself. Okay. You know, when I spoke to,

I can't remember who told me this. It might have been, Jim Michael Taylor might have told me this. Yeah. He's like, you know, it's inherently gay to work out. I was going to say, I think it's pretty gay.

I did say he was like, and he obviously, Michael's gay. And he's like, you know, it's gay to work out, Connor. And I was like, it is?

He's like, well, you're looking at a man. You have an ideal form of a man. Yeah. And you view this form as attractive. That's gay. And it kind of blew my mind at the time when he told me. Like, shit, I was like, she's kind of right.

It's because who are you trying to impress here? Are you trying to impress girls or are you trying to impress other men? I think for me, but like, is that gay? Kind of self-sets, actually. No, because I, you as a man want to look good for another man. But who is going to appreciate it more? a woman or your fellow bros. No, the boys.

You're doing for the boys. Because I was asking Sydney, right? Because I'm also impressed of getting into shape. And I was like... But it does feel better when another woman compliments you. Yeah.

Or like someone of the sex you're interested in. I was like, hey honey, like, what if I get like, what if I get a six bag? Would you find out like cool? And she's like, I love you no matter what. And I'm just like,

that's not what I want to hear. I think with there some women though, Or some partners that would then take it as like a self-criticism of like, oh, fuck, he's getting in shape and I'm not. And now I have to. But like, I don't think anyone would ever expect that. Yeah. Like, I don't think any partner would ever think like,

oh, I'm getting in shape, that's my partner should get in shape. But I think some people see it as like a, it's like when your friend starts working out and you're like, hold on. I got to work out. Well, why am I not doing that? What are you doing CrossFit? I got to lock in. What the fuck?

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look, it's a B. I don't know. It's like, everyone has a different reason for getting into shape. For me, it's not so much anything to do with my body. It's, I just want to be healthier. Yes.

My, any, any change in my body is a nice little extra. This sounds like a C the way you're describing. It is a C for me. I'm willing to go C. I'm ready to say C. I think getting, like, getting in shape and getting it into the good point is ash, but a lot of it's F too. Yeah. I'll do C.

Fuck it. I mean, getting into shape. It's like, for me, it's like health benefits. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, everything else is just like, okay, it's about how good you feel yourself. A lot of these I don't feel strongly about. I'd be real with you. I'm guessing, Joe, you feel somewhat strongly about this one?

I mean, it's an ass. Okay. I don't remember my first concert or festival. I went to go see ACDC with my dad and it was fucking awesome. Okay, well, that sounds like a brain chemistry. That's like going to the church for the first time. It was. It was a religious experience.

Yeah. All right, fine. I'm willing to put that in S for you. Yeah, chuck it up in S. Doing something you're terrified of. It's not particularly very good half the time either. I don't really... No, because you're terrified.

I think I'm terrified of is hospitals and surgeries, and I did that, and I've got to say, still an F for me. Didn't enjoy that one. Wouldn't recommend it and don't want to do it again. Right. What about you guys? I think the...

The spirits of this one is more like doing... Like going on stage in front of people or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like an activity. Probably terrified of. See. Again, I don't feel. Yeah.

Yeah, right. Yeah, I would say. It's in the middle. It's right in the middle for me. It's good. That's bad. Yeah, you learn something. You face your fears,

but it's like I still don't like doing the thing. Yeah. Failed at something you worked extremely hard at. And it never happened, though. Ah. This guy. Wait, have you, okay, serious question.

Have you ever actually failed at something you worked really hard at? Yeah. What is it? Well, I tried to like pursue music as a career. Oh, wow. And you would say you worked extremely hard on? I do.

We did practice like three times a week. And like fucking after school and shit. And like we, you know, performed at pubs and, you know, tried to get attention of people and it just, you know, back then I was working extremely hard because that's like kind of the childhood dream that I had.

And it just didn't go anywhere and I had to completely quit. I don't think I've ever failed at something I've worked extremely harder. Genuinely, same here. And it's, it always like... Huh? Maybe that's bad for me. No, no, it's it... I think about this like every day.

Not every day. But I think about it whenever I am going to try something new. right? Or start my next new project. Because I remember my parents, when I was young, telling me, one day you're going to fail and that's okay because it's going to be, you're going to carry that and it's going to be a big character building moment. So I remember those words so vividly.

And so every time I start a new project, I'm like, is this the time? Is this me? I think this, I think I'm due. I gotta be due. And then it just hasn't happened yet. And maybe that's because I remember those words. So I'm like so fucking careful

whenever I take on, take on something new and something risky. But it hasn't stopped me enough that it's stopped me taking on a risk. You know what I mean? I don't know. Might happen. It could happen.

I feel like as well, because you're older and you've gone through all those things, you're a lot more risk adverse, right? Like, because when I was doing the band stuff, I was like 17. So it's like I was just fucking throwing shit at the wall and hoping it's stuck and not really thinking about it and hoping that it worked out. And then the moment that I realized that, oh, this is not going to go anywhere. It was sad.

But like, yeah, as you said, like, you learn so much from it. And it's like incredibly, I don't know. It was a very humbling feeling of just being like, hey, you know, maybe this wasn't meant to be. But fuck it. We ball. We try something else. You know. Yeah.

And it made me less afraid from that point onwards to fail at something. Right. Which is why I think I enjoy doing so many different things because now I'm less scared to fail because I've already experienced it before. Yeah. You know? Yeah, I've been afraid of failing. I think that's the important part.

Yeah. I just come in expecting to fail. Yeah, dude. I just manage. Some people call that pessimistic, but I think it's a good mindset to have. I mean, I think there's a difference between taking a risk and doing a calculated risk. For me, it's always like a calculated risk whenever I do something big.

I'm gonna guess that it's F though. I mean, generally? No, I learned a lot from it, so I was thinking of B. All right, B, it is. Achieving a childhood dream, I'll be honest with you. I didn't have any.

Well, yeah, mine was the thing that failed. I wanted to play video games and not gonna lie, kind of doing that a lot. Actually, I kind of achieved a childhood dream when we went on tour. Oh. Yeah.

Because like doing doing a show and shit, that was a dream for me. Yeah. You know, making barn was pretty awesome. Yeah, did.

Yeah. Realizing your parents are getting older. This is pretty the most. F. F. This is like bottom of F. Actually, maybe second bottom of F.

Yeah. Because after what? Tax payments. Oh, yes. Yeah. Sorry, mom and dad.

Yeah, 100%. Look, look, they get old. I've accepted that. I don't accept the government

taking my money. Yeah, that's pretty bold. Yeah, tax does feel like bullshit because it just seems to keep happening And there's always more than one. How is there so many taxes? When does this end? And why is it always different?

Why is there always so many taxes? Oh, Jesus. That one's F, bro. Yeah, that is the F of it. Yeah, the last one is first tax payment. But realizing your parents getting old is a very brutal one. It's pretty F. Yeah.

Yeah. But, you know, that's part of life and that's something that you got to deal with. And you got to make sure you manage that time. Yeah. Did you, did you, this can't sound like a weird question. Did you ever have a moment where you realize your parents were like humans? Yeah, of course. Yeah. Like how old were you when you realized?

Like 15 or 14, I think. Damn. Yeah, that's early. Yeah, that's early. I didn't, I didn't think that way until like my mid-20s. Yeah, same. I think she's the first time, like, you see them be really wrong about something. Yeah.

And you're like, hmm. And you're like, hmm. I thought you were the cool ones. Yeah. I thought you knew every year. That's kind of strange. But you were omnipresent, omnipotent. Yeah.

Yeah. You just like, wait, you guys have like fears and anxieties as well? But you were the perfect human beings. You have everything figured out. Yeah. Yeah, that came like pretty late in my life, actually. Well, that's pretty healthy, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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