Trash Taste Podcast - We Rated The WORST Ranked Anime Of All Time | Trash Taste #246

Episode Date: March 7, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So, dudes, welcome back to another episode of the Trash Taste Podcast. I'm Joey and I'm with the boys, Garten Connor, as usual. Welcome back. Today, boys, rejoice. We're talking about anime. And Joey, we're going to be talking about some anime that even you have watched. Say what? Because, because aren't we talking about some of the worst anime to ever be made, which you also conveniently made a video on?
Starting point is 00:00:25 Am I like the worst anime connoissee? I guess so, Joey. I guess so. I don't think we're necessarily going to go critically, just more so vibe. Yeah, yeah. I don't think anyone's going to give a shit about the critically bad anime, to be honest. We've talked about a lot about our three-by-threes of like our favorite shows, our favorite anime, our favorite whatever.
Starting point is 00:00:44 But we thought we've never actually talked about what we think is objectively or subjectively, I should say, the worst thing we've ever watched and some of the worst trash or whatever that we've consumed before. I've seen a lot of dog shit anime, that's for sure. This is exactly why you stopped watching anime. Yeah, it's too much dog shit out there, dude. Should we name all name what we think is the worst anime? And you can't pick anyone from the top, bottom 100. Okay, that's fine because I barely remember any of them.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Yeah. We should name like the worst anime. There's like a couple I remember just because they were like exceptionally dog shit. But I'm going to say, oh, it's hard to remember the bad ones actually now I'm realizing. That's the thing. Okay. I remember bad scenes from okay shows. What's how we, I'm gonna go full of, no,
Starting point is 00:01:33 critic mode here. How we defining bad? Uh, Mao. Mao. Mouth. Look, that's the only way we can have this fun little game when we all name a shit anime and we can critically see who's the best and worst of it. I mean, I can tell you what the bottom three are.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Okay, well, no, I, it can't be in the bottom one hundred. Joey's, Joe's cheating in that sense. I'm done this rodeo before, man. Yeah. Okay. I mean, if it's not in the top 100? Yeah. Off the top of my head.
Starting point is 00:01:56 the objectively, I gotta stop saying objectively, man. Objectively. Okay, objectively, what is the worst anime? What's the worst anime? Objectively bad. Objectively, the worst anime I've probably watched. On every level is I've forgotten the fucking name.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Explain the show. Okay, Crunchyroll produced. Oh, my God. 3D. Ex-arm. That is it. That's absolutely. the bottom 100.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Yeah, X-Arma has a 2.88 rating. Yeah. So how much of this show did you actually watch? Did you watch all of it? I watched like seven episodes. Okay, so I had to watch all of it for the video that I did. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:39 It was the longest 12 episodes of my life. That's pretty long. Like, I've never, I said it in the video, but like, I've never watched an anime that felt like it was glitching. Okay. You know when you're like playing like pro-flip or something
Starting point is 00:02:53 and the character just like glitches in? Yeah. That was that for 12 episodes. It was bad. I don't understand how this was made. You know, I think at the end of the day, right? Every anime project, every big project is a fucking miracle that these people got together and finished a piece of work. There are so many aspects of this where I'm like, how did this get approved or how did this go past any kind of like quality control?
Starting point is 00:03:23 Well, it wasn't the story for this one is like the, The studio and the director had never worked on anime before. Yes. And they were just like, hey, the Crunchy was like, Yo, we wanna do this story. And yeah, it was like, we don't have anyone else to do it. You wanna give it a shot? And they were like, okay.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Is this in the bottom 100? This is absolutely in the bottom 100. I believe this is number, I mean, it might have changed since I made the video, but I believe this was like maybe number five. That's impressive. It's in the top 10. That's impressive that they're that low. I mean, I think this was the very,
Starting point is 00:03:56 rare case where a bad show got so much press as well. And it was like, how did this happen? Because people are like, oh, okay, this is a crunch roll producer? All right, let's check it out. And then people, you watch the first two minutes of the first episode and you're like, oh, God, have you ever seen this? I've seen one episode. And I just wanted to watch one episode of being on the joke. Yeah. Yeah. And then I watched it and I was like, ah, no, this is actually for real bad. It's actually so funny. Like not funny bad. Oh, no, this is funny bad. I thought it was just sad. Really? It was sad that people had worked on it.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Yeah. That like any effort had been put onto this. The more episodes you go into it, the funnier it gets. Obviously, if you want to look, maybe we'll have some funny little things on screen right now, showing you just how, yeah. I mean, the animation obviously isn't the B-end all of everything, but it gives you a flavor of what is to come.
Starting point is 00:04:44 The animation is like the least of your war is. Yeah, yeah. The story is, I feel bad. Pretty fucking awful. Well, is the story good since you finish it? Because didn't this anime kill the most? manga that also... What?
Starting point is 00:04:57 This is based on a manga, right? Can we search of the X-Ars? Supposedly... So I have never read the manga before, but supposedly, the manga for this was actually, like, not too badly... Like, the reception was not too bad for this. What's it rated on my anime list?
Starting point is 00:05:13 I know it's not gonna be... So go down, go down. And I'll say... There, there, related entries. X-arm manga. Yeah. So click that. Yeah, it's a 6.3.
Starting point is 00:05:24 So it's not too bad. Which isn't great, but isn't bad either. So it looks like the... Wow, even Wikipedia is just like, yeah, that's what you do. The anime was met with backlash, thanks to computer generated images. I mean, that was one aspect of it. Great, great. I think that, what was it again?
Starting point is 00:05:43 The main goal, the voice actress for the main girl, I believe, was the same voice actress. Yeah, Kito Akari. I think she played a pretty prominent role. I mean, she looks like she played a lot. A lot of prominent roles. Oh yeah, she was Nesgo. Oh, okay. Yeah, it was the girl played Nesgo.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Do I remember the main character's name? No, because who gives a fuck? Yeah, I mean, the thing about this that stands out so much is like, where do you, where do you even begin about what went wrong with this adaptation, right? What kind of like, what I remember? Oh, there's so many things I remember, but like the 2D animated characters talking to the 3D animated characters was just like... No, no, they made the boldest move in anime possible
Starting point is 00:06:31 where normally, right, if there is an anime that mixes in 2D with 3D, usually the 2D stuff is like the main stuff you'd watch, right? And then maybe they'd have like 3D crowds or like 3D monsters or whatever. This was the first ever anime where they were like, let's flip that. Let's make the really important characters you see all the time. this dog shit 3D and the characters in the backgrounds, 2D. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:59 And I was like, who, who thought that was a good idea? It's so distracting because the moment a 3D character pops up, not only is it so obvious, but you're also like, oh fuck, this guy's going to come back out again because he's a prominent character because he's in fucking 3D. It reminds you the fucking the ghost in the shell series that came out as well that had similarly bad. Oh, the 244.
Starting point is 00:07:21 I don't think it's as bad, but it was, Not great. Had some funny scenes. You had some very, the back flipping up the stairs. Back flipping up the stairs with. It's so funny. I just thought that was. Lotter goes just ragdolling up the stairs.
Starting point is 00:07:35 I don't think I've seen an anime that is lower than this, like not even close. Yeah. Like I've been trying to rack my brain now for the past like 20 minutes about what anime I've seen that is that bad. And I don't think anything comes close to this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:47 In just terms of like on every single aspect, like the technical aspect, maybe you're not the voice act. but at least on a technical aspect. This is just the perfect car crash of everything going wrong. If you want to play a really fun drinking game, this is the only time you should watch this show. But other than that, it's just, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:09 There are legit parts as well, whereas, again, it's like, the 3D and the 2D thing is like the first layer of many layers of problems. Like, there are just straight up scenes, for example, like fight scenes, where there's just no sound effects. Like the main goal would be like flipping and, you know, dodging bullets and like punching and stuff. But like it all sounds like,
Starting point is 00:08:31 it's like, it's literally punch dot waive. Like it's like, there's like no treatment done to any of the sound effects. There's straight up scenes where there should be some kind of like background music, but there isn't. So the intense scenes just are not intense at all. And then there are some moments where they,
Starting point is 00:08:47 I swear to God, they use like movie maker effects. Oh no, I, there's one scene that like sticks out to me. And it was like two characters. And one character got slapped. Right. And then what happened was there was this editing effect where the entire frame just got zoomed out into like a black abyss and just started spiraling down.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Like it was some fucking Windows movie maker meme or some shit like that or some PowerPoint slide transition. I was like, this is in an anime. It's literally the 12 transition in PowerPoint. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, what are my word? watching right. That's pretty bad.
Starting point is 00:09:23 There's also like literally the opening scene of episode one where I guess the main guy like it's like foreshadowed that, oh he has this like insane like, you know, power or whatever. And it's like lightning shooting out from him. But the lightning literally looks like, if you typed into YouTube, lightning 3D effect green screen. Let's watch X-Lam is Crunchyroll, mate. I just was, I was curious to see if CrunchRoll like removed it.
Starting point is 00:09:47 It's still there, man. If they were like willing, like maybe they're like business is business. I was under the impression that, like, because I remember they promoted it on like social. They promoted the fuck out of us. And like, how did that happen? Like, like, genuinely. I know, I know how like companies,
Starting point is 00:10:04 like companies are not nearly as functional as people think they are. Yeah. There's a lot of like bad organization within companies. But how nobody rang the alarm bell and was like, hey, you might want to have a look at the show before we start pushing it.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Because I remember they pushed it. They did. I think they. You would have thought they would have like... To be fair, I think they pushed it contractually as much as they need, like, the minimal amount of what they need to... For me? Yeah. This would have been like a shit at 4 am. in a hostel with the boys.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Yeah. I would have tried to sneak that one. No, no splash. I think they did because I think what... All I remembered them was they did one tweet about this. Yeah, the tweet was it. And that was it. And that was like, it was like a minimal kind of like description.
Starting point is 00:10:46 And that one tweet was enough to like fire up the engines, you know? There is no way you are speaking this through. And it was doing like, I felt like at a time when hitting Crunchyroll was very popular and still is, to be fair. But at that time, like on social media, there, a lot of people were just looking for a dunk. Yeah, this definitely did not help.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I believe this is still in the top five. That's ridiculous. I'm trying to think of like, what could possibly be worse? I can't think of anything.
Starting point is 00:11:17 But like, I'm trying to think of like, what are like anime so bad that they, like, bankrupted the studio. I mean, there's classics, you know, when you think of like the worst anime ever, for instance, like, you know, Mars of Destruction or Skelter Heaven, you know, which are all done by the same fucking studio. Hametsuna Mars?
Starting point is 00:11:35 Oh my God, this is even lower. Yeah, this is the lowest rated anime. This is the infamous one as the lowest rate. So, Joey, I haven't watched Mars of Destruction. You have? I've watched it multiple times, yes. Wait, how many episodes are that? Oh, do you want.
Starting point is 00:11:47 It's only one. It's only one. Wait, how can it be that bad? So it's 19 minutes, right? Okay. Which, you know, you think like, okay, there's lots of short films that are 20 minutes that are cohesive and stuff like that. But the thing is, I think the idea factory, which are the name of the producers, which is a hilarious name, is they were like, all right, we have this great idea for a story with this like world and these characters that are all pre-established and everything like that. But we only have 19 minutes of runtime.
Starting point is 00:12:19 So we have to decide what to show. And the problem is, is that out of those 19 minutes, I'd say about 14 of those minutes, just don't add anything to the story. It's just pure fluff. Okay. And the thing is so fast pace that by the time you're like, all right, so let me get this straight. There is this, okay, in the case of Mars of destruction, right?
Starting point is 00:12:42 It's a story about like, it's the near future where like aliens have come to invade and they can't fight, they're called the ancients, I believe. the ancients, I believe, yeah, the ancients. Okay. The ancients have invaded Tokyo and they're like killing all of humanity, but they can't fight back with modern technology because of alien technology or whatever. So they create what is called the Mars suit, as in, you know, Mars of destruction, which is like a specific, it's a specific like, basically it's like Carmen Rider. It's like a common writer suit that is only, that only few individuals are
Starting point is 00:13:13 selected to be able to wear. And that's the only thing that they can use to fight back. with the ancients, right? Kind of an interesting premise on the surface. But then you have, but that would be a great premise to explore if it was like a full season's worth, right? Or even like a movie length. You can't go anywhere and explain that story and explain that plot in 19 minutes.
Starting point is 00:13:36 You just can't do that. And this is, this is just a pure cluster fuck of just like, all right, this is happening, and now this is happening, and then we're not gonna explain this, but now this is happening, is happening and credits roll. We should watch this. Oh, you guys need to watch this.
Starting point is 00:13:50 We should watch it. Then they can watch it on Patreon. I was watching it. Yes. If you guys want to watch us, react to miles of destruction, go to Patreon.com slash trashdiz. We will do it.
Starting point is 00:13:58 We'll be up right now. But this is, see, but here's the thing, right? I actually think that this is not even as bad as people make it out. I was going to say, like, it's kind of like the opposite of full metal
Starting point is 00:14:11 where like people just decide full metal is the best. Yeah. So we're going to make sure we keep voting. I mean, don't get me wrong. is still a dog shit show. Yeah. No, no, no, for sure, but it's like not, it's no axon, right?
Starting point is 00:14:21 It's no stinker like that. And I think, if anything, there's like shows that other shows that Idea Factory made, which I think are actually a lot worse than Mars of destruction. Skelter heaven, I think is worse than that one. I just realized FRIRAN is 9.3. Yeah, Free RIN is the new FMA now. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Free rent is the new FMA. Wow, One Piece fan letter is number four now. Yeah, that's with a lot less members. We're not talking about the good shows, but I'm talking about the bad. I was like, I was like, I was like, I said full malice number one. And I was like, I don't think it's number one.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Yeah. So if you go, if you go back and if you go back to Miles of Destruction, Connor, and then you go down to Idea Factory, producers. So these guys are the king of making- Slop. Fucking terrible shows. Oh, actually, Skeleton Heaven is the worst rated.
Starting point is 00:15:07 It's 1.8. Oh my God. That one's even worse. So you've watched this. One episode. Yes. How can it be that bad in one episode? Who's funding this stuff?
Starting point is 00:15:15 This is the most. mid-2000s aesthetic I've ever seen in my life. Look at her. Look at her titties. Oh my God. That's 2,000 titties. Yeah. When a mysterious entity suddenly appears in the center of Tokyo,
Starting point is 00:15:25 the Altamirae agency is tasked to repel the extraterrestrial threat. This kind of sounds similar to the... Okay, let's mind. Outsuio, Funnagai, must guide his all-female unit of battle Sole, or Sol, pilots to take down the strange... But this sounds exactly the same as the Mars. Yeah, so this one in Mars a destruction was clearly someone at Idea Factory watching a little bit too much Evangelion and went, we can do that.
Starting point is 00:15:51 But we only have the budget to make one episode. They made diabolical lovers. They made diabolical lovers. Yeah. Fuck. Dude, I only know one person who's obsessed with this show and they ended up in prison. Oh, shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:07 That's all you guys need to know for that. Says it all. There's another one. I mean, there's a bunch in the top 100. Dude, what is this studio? Spectral force. That's also terrible. Generation of Chaos, that's also terrible.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Is this just one guy funding these random ass anime? I really don't know. All of these are crap. Run equals dim. What is, it's a Korean movie. It's a Korean one, yeah. This is so random. This is so deep down a rabbit hole.
Starting point is 00:16:35 This one's also in the top 100 as well. This was also shit. So how many of these have you watched? You have to watch two episodes of this. Yeah. One episode of this one. No, no, but with this one, With Generation of Chaos, there's three seasons, seasons in one episode each.
Starting point is 00:16:50 And they're all terrible. The Korean compilation movie of the previously released TV series, not a single soul has rated it. So basically, this company is in a race to the bottom. They're like a slop. Oh, they're not even at the race to the bottom. They're already at the finish line. See, I wouldn't even call this slop. It's kind of impressive how bad you can make a TV series sometimes.
Starting point is 00:17:13 It's still around. Because a lot of people, a lot of people have watched Mars of Destruction because again, it's that infamous god awful anime. Yeah. But if, like, you got to watch the other ones because I would argue out of everything Idea Factory is made, Mars of Destruction is probably the best one they've made. The other ones are fucking horrendous. So what's, I couldn't believe it? What's bad about Helter Skelter? Was that the name? Would you say that that is...
Starting point is 00:17:40 That's a Beatles song. Oh, yeah. Skeleton heaven. What's it easy? Skeleton plus heaven, God. Skeleton plus heaven. Okay, so Skeleton to Heaven, again, it's this idea of like they have this really limited runtime of 19 minutes, all right? And now a normal person to be like, all right, we only have 19 minutes to give you a cohesive story.
Starting point is 00:18:04 So let's use every second that we possibly can to like give like expose or like show characters or anything like that. This feels like, it feels like they animated this properly, but then someone in the editing bay fucked it up and clearly didn't read the script and was just like, all right, I'm just gonna guess how I think the show is going to be like. And again, there are so many scenes. Again, Skelterhaven has a fucking opening and an ending. In the 19 minute runtime, they have a 90 second opening and a 90 second ending.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Who's the singer? Now, how deep does this go? because if they have an opening and ending, that means they had budget to, all I'm going to say is, in the case of Skelter Heaven, it's probably the best part of this the whole show.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Oh, it's, she voices... Oh, she voices Nagatiyuki. Nagatow. Wow, she's like an OG. Oh, my God. Oh, wow, she voices, uh, Mitzig. Yeah, she's a pretty prominent voice actress. Dead alive.
Starting point is 00:19:07 So, my God, she's got a fucking... So clearly, oh my God, she's in, in my hero. Oh my gosh, she's got a long list. Yeah, she's an OG. Yeah, clearly idea factory have the connections. Yeah. To get a good product made. Okay, so the director of script and screenplay. Yeah, this is the guy who's responsible for all of these. Uh, let's have a look at his score. Oh, wow. Yeah. That's, uh, yeah, he did everything. He worked on spectral force, generation of chaos. This, this, this man's single-hand made some of the worst anime ever made,
Starting point is 00:19:43 and I almost just have to applaud him for it. Because the consistency of this man is crazy. Is this, are this like, recognize the worst animates in Japan as well, or is it? No, I think this is very clearly, like, online anime community. Yeah, I mean, these are kind of like just memes, you know, where, I don't know if they're actually
Starting point is 00:20:02 the worst anime ever made, probably not considering how much anime. Oh, that one's also, yeah, Twinkle Rock, Norma. That one's also a famous one. This is the one where, like, Oh, is this the one where like the animation is like two frames are saying. Yeah, they just ran out of frames. They literally search up, search up one of the scenes. Look up the scene of this.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Yeah. So this was a pretty infamous one where there is this one scene where they literally stopped animating. Yeah. They literally just stopped animating it. Yeah, look at this. Yeah. It's like those like really old fucking cartoons. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:36 So it, it. It's like they animated it properly and then they, when they went to go render it out, they were like, oh shit, I accidentally said it to two FPS. It just looks like it's glitching, right? Yeah. It just, which is a shame because this one is actually a sequel to another anime from, I think like two years prior, called, I think it's just called Nora. And that one is actually animated properly. by the same studio. So I don't know what the fuck happened with this one.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Like that animation doesn't look terrible. This doesn't look bad? Like, the actual story of this one is not too bad. It's just the animation is just dog water. That guy, the fucking robot. Yeah, sure. It's a really, like, I'm sure the manga is great for this, but. Oh, this is, this definitely does feel like the 80s, doesn't it?
Starting point is 00:21:27 This is very 80s. Yeah, it just makes me wonder because I'm sure this was like back in the day where OVAs and ONAs were much more common. So I can't imagine. how many like hidden gems or just hidden trashes that we've missed over the years. Bro, yeah. I, uh, doing the, doing the video, uh, made me find so many great. Oh, Hanukkah, I love Hanukkah.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Okay, what's your opinion of Pupa? Because I was gonna say, if, if you weren't gonna bring up Pupor, I was gonna say Pupor. Because I watched Pupor ages ago. That was the biggest disappointment in, in, wow. But like a 3.28. It's got a hundred thousand reviews. It's because the mom,
Starting point is 00:22:07 was actually quite popular when it came out. Okay. Yeah, I feel like, I feel like this is also a really infamous one because I feel like this school is more just a backlash against how bad the adaptation was, rather than how bad this singular. Yeah, because the story is. The story abandoned by their abusive parents
Starting point is 00:22:25 and with only each other to depend on, siblings Utsu, Utsutsutsu, and Yumae Hasegawa find themselves led astray by a beautiful red butterflies that have been appearing in their world, unbeknownst to them. These crimson-winged heralds trump at the beginning of a cannibalistic nightmare. A mysterious virus known as pooper is about to hatch.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Pooper, pooper. I think it's puper. So the manga was good? The manga, so the manga in, so the manga was pretty well received in Japan. And I found about, I found out about the manga when it first came out from my friend who was like, this one's actually like, I mean, yeah, I think, though, this rating is as a result of the anime. Right. Yeah. Because the anime came out and I was like, all right, cool, a horror anime.
Starting point is 00:23:10 We don't get that quite often. It's a five minute per episode anime. Oh. And I think about out of those five minutes, maybe three minutes is just a black screen because they just censor everything. What? Yeah. Did they ever release it unsensored? No.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Oh, I didn't know that. I don't think they did. I mean, if they did, I never saw it. Yeah. Every version of pupa that I've seen online has been censored. Maybe inappropriate for some users. Wow. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:37 You know what's bad when the license. The entire season is 37 minutes. You know it's bad when the licenses don't care enough to copyright claim it on YouTube. That's how you know the licenses have just given up. They're like, eh, do what you want with it. We're not gonna, we don't care about this stuff. This is not good at all, even if it was uncensored.
Starting point is 00:23:56 No. Oh, wow. Because the voice acting is also just not very good. Yeah. Um, yeah. Studio Dean, who, I don't, they normally do stinkers? Uh, I mean, the four. The fall off needs to be studied with Dean.
Starting point is 00:24:08 They've been kind of falling off recently. Oh, yeah, they made, oh, wow, yeah, no. Yeah. To be fair, when did they fall on? To be fair. I mean, they cooked with Higirashi. Okay. They've made, like, they've made, like, a few good shows.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Yeah, they've cooked with some shows. Yeah, but. Higarashi was good, obviously. A lot of their recent shows do struggle to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Yeah. Yeah, I mean, obviously, if you'd sail a moon, that would. Yeah, I mean, in terms of like, God, they produce so many. anime. Yeah, I think the problem with an anime studio like Studio Dean is that they just produce so much anime. That quality control isn't always there.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Yeah. And they're infamous for some scenes like Seven Deadly Sins season three. Classic. They did the Itto Junji collection as well, which was you know. The new one? No, the first one. They did like back in like a couple of years ago.
Starting point is 00:25:00 The Netflix one? Yes. Yeah. Ooh. Yeah. Which is also not received well. Yeah. But, I mean, these are some of obviously the most worst anime, according to my anime list in terms of like it's infamy. But what are some of the worst anime that you've seen, like, personally? This one's up here. You watched this? Yeah, this is also in the top one.
Starting point is 00:25:21 You watched the 12 episodes. I did. Why? Can I read the plot? Go for it. Years ago, extrasetrials known as the citizens of the stars descend upon the planet of Tokinea? Tokinea? It's probably.
Starting point is 00:25:33 And wrecked havoc on humanity to fight against them, the military. developed the imagine project to create hybrids between humans and citizens of the stars. With this combination of genes, they hope to exploit both the subservience of man and the powers of the area. No, Connor, the most important part of this is the first senders of the background section. Hanukkah is the first anime television series to be entirely produced an Adobe Flash animation. Yeah. What?
Starting point is 00:25:59 So the whole, you should look this up on YouTube. So the whole reason why this show was created was to basically, get people to be like, hey guys, Adobe Flash can be an actual thing that animators in Japan can use to create anime on a lower budget. And this is what they made. Look at this shit. To be fair, if this was on Newgrounds, this would have slag. If this was on Newgrounds, this would have been like P.
Starting point is 00:26:27 This would have gone hard. Holy shit. Like, it's not that bad. Yeah, but to think that it looks like Newgrounds, but it's not that bad. But to think that an entire. anime studio made this. Okay, if an anime studio made this,
Starting point is 00:26:40 and it wasn't just a Newgrounds animation, this is like either peak Newgrounds or the worst studio made anime you've ever seen in your life, right? Yeah, but also the story is just dog shit as well. Like, it doesn't make any sense. And my favorite part of all of this is that when I went to go look up Hanukkah, right?
Starting point is 00:26:56 I was looking on the list of the worst 100. They have, in an entirely different entry on my anime list, a Hanukkah recap, episode. They thought this show was so good that they were like, hey, we need to get the people up to speed on this story. Let's make an entire recap episode. You just unlocked a core fucking memory for me. Yeah, if you go up, it should say recap. Hanukkah recap, which is just as bad. It's just a recap episode of Hanukkah. It's like, dog, why do we need a recap episode? We don't we need we didn't watch the fucking show.
Starting point is 00:27:37 You just you just unlocked a core fucking memory for me that I didn't know existed. What? This this doesn't technically count as an anime, but I remember there was this animated animated series on Newgrounds that I fucking that I fucking followed. I think it was called shin. Shin? X-I-N X-I-N. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Oh, here we go. I was like I was like, When you, when you, oh my God, I watch this. Does anyone, does anyone know this from me? Do you know this one? I watch this. Holy shit, this shit was peak when I was like, when I was a teenager.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Do you remember this? I remember this. Basically, this was, this was a shonen anime. They made a shonen anime. Just like an hour and a half. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like a proper series that they made and uploaded to Newgrounds.
Starting point is 00:28:33 And I was like, Oh, no, it's not. Sorry, it's one minute first. No, no, because there's like 18 episodes or something like that. There are so many episodes. And to- Oh my God. People are still commenting on. To the credit, the animation does get a lot better.
Starting point is 00:28:45 But I completely forgotten that- Whoa, I completely forgot about this. Go go to the latest episode. This is Jin session one. Oh, this is the HD remaster. Yeah, this is HD remaster. Yeah, go. Wow, I haven't been on new ground in a while.
Starting point is 00:28:58 So this is a series that went on for like years, if I remember correctly. Yeah. Yeah, 2006, the final. Oh, it's got five stars. No, this shit was peak. Dude, got front page, weekly users choice? Yeah, this shit was peak, man.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Yeah, this, yeah, oh my God. I feel like, fucking remember this. I feel like such a fucking boomer right now, but... Oh, my God. This was the shit. When you mentioned Newgrounds anime, I was like... Dude, this is crazy. I have to click the quality.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Yeah. Yeah, this in 2006 was like next level. Yeah. Is this back in the day when you can fast forward this? No, you couldn't. Yeah, I can't pause or pause forward. I can't force or fast forward. The moment you press play, you are committed to watching this.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Exactly, right? I remember this, this finale was like 20. This is the Game of Thrones. It was like 30 minutes long. 30 minutes long for like a Newgrounds animation back in like 2006. Yeah, someone made this and was like, I'm going to show it for free. No, this is for like an amateur animation. And as a kid back in the day, this is this, this is, this,
Starting point is 00:30:02 This shit was so fucking good and so peak. And I complete, I'm so glad that someone else watched this other than me. Oh my God, I'm gonna go home and watch this again. I'm gonna go home and watch this again. You don't understand, Connor. For like, no, no, no, for like independent animation. No, that's cool, that's cool.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Dude, when I was 11, this shit blew my mind. I know, right? This is so good. What the fuck is this show? So I was scrolling down the list? Oh, Gbi-Rte, yeah. I also watched this. And this came out like five years ago.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Yeah. How'd I'd never heard of this. I think this and, this and X-Arma like, the two latest ones that were in the top 100. I think this is also Studio Dean, right? No, it's not. Studio L. Studio Lounge Bob.
Starting point is 00:30:43 I didn't even heard of the studio. Oh, they've barely made anything. Yeah. What? Yeah, this one is also dog shit. Why does it launch box? You know what Gbiarte is? Gbiarte is what Jojo must look like for people who fucking hate Jojo.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Wait, why? Because the characters just look like knock off Jojo characters. No, they don't. Sure. I think this is the one. No, no, no. If I remember correctly, it's like, Gibbiet? I don't fucking remember the name of it, but...
Starting point is 00:31:15 This doesn't look that bad. Look at that. Is that not a Jojoin' That looks like anemic Caesar? Yeah. Yeah, it's fucking bad. Oh, God. So out of all of these bad anime that you watch, Joey, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Well, any of them actually entertainer, because I feel like sometimes when you watch bad anime, bad anime can be entertaining if it's like just bad, like horrible, you know what I mean? Yeah. So I think a lot of the idea factory ones like Mars of Destruction and stuff like that are just so bad that they just become really funny. Right. Because it's like you're watching there, you're sitting there watching this show and you're like, oh my god, I can't believe this is real. Like why would they, every decision where they're like, okay, we could do this the right way, or we could do this in the most fucking train crash way
Starting point is 00:32:05 every single time they go with the train crash way, but not in the way you're expecting. Yeah. So you're just sitting there like, why, why, why did you do this? Why did you do this to yourself? Like, you can't even like aim to do this shit. What the fuck is this? I don't know, I was just looking at it and it's like,
Starting point is 00:32:20 it seems really insane. See, for me, when I think of like bad anime that I was entertaining, Oda Third Reich. What is this? What is this? is this show? Connor's going down a deep-playing rubber.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Yeah. Yeah, see, when I think about like entertainingly bad anime, I always think like, it's going to have some kind of like entertaining, like, bad English dub. I don't know why. Oh, yeah. But whenever I watched like a bad Japanese anime, the voice actors are still putting like a hundred and ten percent into it, right? Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:32:53 But just sometimes there's just something about a bad English dub that just puts it all together with a bad anime, you know? I mean, a lot of these shows, like, I couldn't even find the original Japanese version. And the only ones I could find were, like, the English version. What the fucking is. Sorry, this is, this show is so fucking funny. They looked like Roblox, man. This looks really funny.
Starting point is 00:33:15 But that's the thing. It's like, out of the hundred that I watched, like, a lot of these were, like, shows like this where you just want, it's like unironically just hilarious. Yeah. This show came out. Or they were just, like, weird shorts. Yeah. 2002, but it looks like the Final Fantasy 7. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Except it's the Third Reich for some reason. Yeah, the Third Reich. Interesting. Yeah, there's a lot of, a lot more interesting shows that you never hear about, I think. Yeah. Like, we all hear about the shows that are always popular, but very interesting to think about some of these shows. I mean, that's why I, that's why when I come across an actual good show, I really fucking respect it, because I've seen the bottom of the fucking cesspool. What are your guys' favorites hilariously bad English dub or?
Starting point is 00:33:58 I mean, I was going to say earlier. You did an entire series around that, didn't you? Well, I used to find bad dubs, and half of these shows I didn't even heard of. And I didn't find what the actual name was. It was so hard to even find the show. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:10 It's just like someone had found a clip and shared it, and that became a big meme. Honestly, the monogatory, not monogatry. A yo, excuse me? The monogatry is out, no. It's cheeks, no. What's the name? The horror one,
Starting point is 00:34:24 very slow burn horror in the village. When they cry in English, it's called. Oh, Kigarashi. Dude, that English dub ruined that show for me. That's straight up. Like, that English dub is so bad. I've never heard the English dog. It's awful.
Starting point is 00:34:35 It's awful. Oh my God. That was the, one of the rare cases where a dub was actually bad, where I actually ruined my enjoyment. I feel like that never really happens. Like, people overstate how, like, the dub shows.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Yeah, they overreact, yeah. It's fine. It's just not what you prefer the Japanese. Yeah. Staying lame to me, right? You fucking watch. But this one was actually just bad. This one was actually just terrible.
Starting point is 00:34:56 But obviously, you know, it's different back then. I feel like, Dubs really got, if the show was critically received poorly and was not popular, they didn't give the dub a good dub. Yeah, sure. Yeah. Like if it was like, who the fuck's gonna watch this?
Starting point is 00:35:10 Yeah, yeah. Or if it was actually a good show, I feel like they often put a lot more work into me. There are, there are a few points where there are some, maybe not the entire dub, but there are some, like, hilarious moments. Oh my God, there's this one moment from, uh, Tugi Gakee, yeah, um, in the English dub, and it's the climactic moment.
Starting point is 00:35:32 And I need to show you guys this clip, man. Okay. I need to show. Tsukika Kira. And it's the climactic moment where the main character confesses his love. And I fucking love this anime. It is, it is a great anime.
Starting point is 00:35:51 I love you seen. I love you seen. Is this it? Oh, yeah, we're not speakers. It's got through Kais, your friends. Oh. I think this thing. I guess to listen to it.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Yeah. Oh, I actually never come through the monitor. Oh, there we go. Okay. So. Okay. No, turn that shit. Nah, turn that off.
Starting point is 00:36:19 That's good. I know. I love you. Wait, can we get that again? Wait, I think it's the cup. It's the car. It's the car. It's the car.
Starting point is 00:36:33 It's the car. Run about. Run about it's the car. It's the car. Nah. That's diabolical that they cut the music for that. That's so diabolical. It's like the newest sounded dumb,
Starting point is 00:36:53 and they wanted to make people laugh. I remember, because I remember seeing this clip posted around, and I was like, ain't no way, this is real. This is an abridged version, but the comedic timing on that was just insane. Damn, the show is all received, too. Yeah, this is a great show. This is a good show.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Like, that's what makes it stand out, right? It's an eight out of 10? And a double clip like that? Yeah. This like, that's what reminded me of that, because you're like, oh, if it's a good show. This show was one of my favorite romances of the year that this aired.
Starting point is 00:37:27 And that was actually like a really, really dramatic moment that you saw on that. Right. That's his number one role. Why are you putting this man on Blastin? I just wanted to see what else he died. But that's, that's, that feels like mean. That's his number one role, right?
Starting point is 00:37:43 Maybe he wanted it to be like so raw that it sounded real, but then it just ended up sounding kind of silly, unfortunately. Yeah. Yeah. That very much reminded me of what's that scene in, what's this fucking Shinkai movie? Garden of Woods. You remember that dub scene? Oh, yeah. Wait, which scene?
Starting point is 00:38:03 It's the, it's the really fucking climactic scene where she starts crying in the hallway. Yes. And the English dove for it. God of Woods. Garden of Words. dub a crying scene, I guess. Yeah, that one, that one, that one.
Starting point is 00:38:18 The dub is too good. She just sounds like she's laughing. Like, this is really unfortunate. Oh, the feet, man. I forgot my coaching. I had a thing with feet with this one. It's just really unfortunate.
Starting point is 00:38:50 That does sound like a laugh. And this is like the peak of the climax. I hate to laugh, but it's really, you should laugh. It's really funny. It's really funny. And I think the part that like really threw me off about this scene when I watched it in the dub was that the guy, I don't know who the voice actor is for the guy character, is pretty good. Yeah, he's like, he does actually a really good performance and then you get, and then you get that.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Oh my God. Like, do that great. I think most of the time when like you have a suspect voice acting performance, what I find a lot of the time, a lot of the time, it's not very much up to like the actions ability, sometimes like direction. No, no, totally, totally. Like a- Like a fucking... Look, there's like a million and one reasons why it ends up sound like it does.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Yeah. Sometimes they use the take that you're like, oh, how the fuck did they use that? Yeah. I'm absolutely, yeah, like... I'm absolutely not blaming the voice actors out. They always use the worst take. Whenever I do your line, I feel like they always want the one that I thought was the worst. Right, right?
Starting point is 00:39:50 Sometimes, like, to you that'll sound like laughing, right? That's the director, maybe he's it. Maybe he just, he was like, I was like, I was like, It was like, that's the take. That's fucking raw. Yeah. But, you know, when you put it like that, it just sounds like they're laughing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Yeah. I thought, I never watched this movie, but I just wanted to. The Final Fantasy movie that pretty much bankrupted. Didn't you talk about this in a... I actually like this movie. It's good. Well, so actually, like... I liked it for the time that it came out.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Right, right. So it lost about just for inflation. Just for 2016 inflation. lost $126 million. Not only did this this directly lead to the closing of Square pictures, but it also delayed
Starting point is 00:40:32 the parent company Square from completing its planned merger with the video game publishing with Enoch. Yeah, this like, almost like tanked Square's company. And it was, it was,
Starting point is 00:40:43 Thinky's Love Child. I've got his name who made seven. Nomura? Yeah. Oh, Sakkuishi. Sakaguchi, who, like, yeah, it was like, had a lot of say and I suppose the early days of Final Fantasy
Starting point is 00:40:58 and like it kind of led it didn't do great. It's kind of impressive. It's so over budget that it just almost killed the studio. Yeah, I kind of need to watch this as well. I think this is underrated from what I remember as a kid.
Starting point is 00:41:14 One thing I will say, the one thing that makes me remember this film because at this time I knew nothing about Final Fantasy. I had zero expectations going into this film. I don't remember a lot, but I remember that they committed to not having a happy ending. And I was like, yeah, I respect that.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Yeah, it's a whole move. Out of everything, that's what I remember. And even as a kid, I was like, oh, this is, this is sad. This is a sad ending. Well, I think people have always really enjoyed about Final Fantasy is the fact that they've always been willing to take risks with the characters and the stories, unlike maybe other games or, you know, everyone always wants the happy ending or they want to keep all the characters alive. And for sure. Only you can't say about Final Fantasy is they don't, they don't kill off characters, they don't give the happy ending.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Yeah. Like some of the stories of Final Fantasy are fucking dark. Very. Very much so. Obviously, it's kind of lost on you there because I feel like a lot of the characters are like pixels. Yeah. It's like even like playing six.
Starting point is 00:42:06 I was like, this is a really fucking sad story where this guy's wife and kid are poisoned by a literal war crime. Yeah. And then I'm like, I recognize that it's sad, but it is kind of hard to connect with it when it's literally a pixels and a guy being like, they poisoned my kids. Yeah. And you watch the kid die in the bed, but again, it's a pixel kid dying.
Starting point is 00:42:26 Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's the thing goes, boop. You're like, you know, it doesn't have, like, but you know, you feel it and you feel the intent there. It's, it feels like that they, uh, such back then, they were willing to tell a lot more raw stories. That's why Six is the goat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Fucking Hyde is the theme song. Oh yeah, Larkensiel did the song. What the fuck? They had like the most popular fucking dudes at the time. Jesus Christ. Yeah, I mean, this was a big budget, high production. film, which is why this... I'm curious, so wait, is this like, so is this movie based off of any particular game?
Starting point is 00:43:00 No. It's completely original. All CGI, which at the time was kind of crazy. Yeah, the CGI for this was insane. Back when this came out, there was nothing that even came close to this realism. Obviously now, you can see this a lot more often, but... Yeah. I mean, when this came out, I remember looking at this and I was like, holy shit, graphics...
Starting point is 00:43:18 This is the future. I'm never going to get back to... 2001. That's crazy. Early 2000s. Yeah. This is, this came out the same fucking year.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Onizuka was airing. And if they'd spend a hundred and thirty-seven million on a Final Fantasy movie today, I'm pretty sure it would, it would get the money back. I don't think it would do like. Well, what's $137 million? $137 million is like the entry to a movie.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Yeah. I mean, like, how much did the 15 movie make? How much is $137? That's a what? Yeah, the Kingslette. Um,
Starting point is 00:43:49 515 movie. Okay. Yeah, it grows 6.5 million. Ooh. Also. Sixth of a theatrical run and earned a third of the 4.5 million in the United States. I didn't hear any fucking, didn't think I'm madden. I would feel like...
Starting point is 00:44:03 Yeah, because it's flopped. Well, look, I think that the... There is like some fairness in that like... Look, the Mario movie crushed. Yeah. The Sonic movie crushed. I think if they gave a Final Fantasy IP to some fucking Hollywood...
Starting point is 00:44:22 studio that poops out these movies that gets 500 million, it would probably be pretty decent. Probably. It wouldn't, I don't think it would be what Final Fantasy fans want, but I think it would probably do decently well. It might open the floodgates for some people. Maybe, but I mean, obviously, that's the name, the name brand of Mario is like, and Sonic is like so much. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:44:40 I think that, yeah, there's definitely more that can be done. I mean, a big problem with Kingslave is that it is based on... You have to know a bunch of shoes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which, which they need to, if they were to make a financial successfully, movie Final Fantasy, it would have to be even an original story or a story that can be explained with no prior. Well, that was the problem with 15 when I watched it.
Starting point is 00:45:02 I was like, I mean, I understand this because I've played 15. But also, why did you make a movie off of one of the most mid-Final fantasy games in the franchise? There was a, what was the fucking, there was a movie or a show that came out recently that was from a game, and I didn't know anything about the game, and I thought it was really fun the movie. What was it? Blue Dragon.
Starting point is 00:45:22 Movie, movie. There's an anime. Okay, yes, but it's ass cheeks. Video game movies 2024. Okay. 20,224. Yeah. What are you looking for?
Starting point is 00:45:38 I didn't know shit about fallout. I didn't know shit about fallout. I did not watch Lara Croft the legend. I mean, I feel like... Secret level was fun. I feel like video game movies, the reputation of video game movies has slowly been turned around.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Oh, yeah. with shows like Arcane and Fall Out and Last of Us. Before you had Final Fantasy, which I think on a conceptual level, Final Fantasy is just very, very hard to make a movie about. Absolutely. Because what is Final Fantasy? What is it, you know?
Starting point is 00:46:10 Gay propaganda. I'm kidding. That's it out of context. I want them to suck more dick. Just in case it wasn't clear. Because like with Final Fantasy. I mean, to be honest, yeah, Final Fantasy stories are extremely convoluted.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Yeah. And they, you have to be willing to sit through a lot of shit to get to the story. Yeah. Yeah. Because you can't really make a Final Fantasy movie on an existing game
Starting point is 00:46:43 because you would assume that the movie will have to be like 50 hours. The people who wrote the Final Fantasy 14 MMO online story deranged people, deranged people how they thought this made any sense. You haven't got to the good part yet. Which is crazy because I've put 40 hours in and the story is batshit insane.
Starting point is 00:47:05 JRP fans like first time. Only 40 hours. It's ridiculous. So needless to say. Yeah. I am curious to check this movie out there. Have you ever watched anime where you think it's just jump the shark where instead of being like good, good, good.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Oh, sorry, instead of being just a bad anime, you had faith in it and it just betrayed, betrayed your investments. I mean, Hupa was definitely one for me because I actually quite like the manga for it. What else is there? I'll throw off some of the time. Give an example. Okay. Not exactly the worst anime of all time, but certainly a car wreck, the more I watched.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Um, Aldernero Zero. Oh my God. Yeah. Dude. Aldenar Zero. That was back when they used to watch anime weekly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:00 And I, you know, I think I watched your videos as well. Yeah. And season one was so fucking fun. It was. It was fucking fire. And then season two,
Starting point is 00:48:08 he just becomes God. He just literally becomes God. Like, like for some reason, where in the first one, it's like plausible. So Alder No, I should explain a little bit.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Um, can't take it away. It is a mecha anime that is written by Geno Rubucci and I believe it's coming from the director of Fate Zero and from Studio Troika. That's stacked already. It's a stacked cast and season one was pretty hype. The problem is that season one ended on the cliffhanger
Starting point is 00:48:41 of all cliffhangers. Oh, it was a fucking big cliff. And it was a 25 episode. So there's like meat on the bone. Like it wasn't like you were getting into it. Yeah. It was funny. five episodes and it ends, season one ends on the cliffhanger of basically three of the main,
Starting point is 00:48:55 two or three of the main characters getting headshotted and you're like, what the fuck? Yeah, yeah. This is, yo, Urabucci, Genereobucci has done it again. The motherfucker did it again. And then, so season two starts and everyone's alive. And everyone's just alive. Oh, yeah. Got about that.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Yeah. And then he, like, he was already kind of O.P. The main character in the show. Did you watch it? I did, but I've very, I remember very little. He was a great pilot, yada, yada, yada. And it felt like it was like somewhat fair, even though obviously it was always stacked.
Starting point is 00:49:31 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But then in season two, they just fully went like, this man cannot be touched. He will win every battle. It's not even close. And I mean, that's, I don't know if even that is accurate, but that's what it felt like watching it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:43 I watched it when it was airing in 2015. So 10 years ago. Yeah. Same here. Just when I watched this weekly. Same here. This is one of the shows that I was so fucking hyped about. Because it was like, I think one of the first really hype shows I started watching as it was airing.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Yeah. Before that, like, I'd watched everything after it aired and this is when I first got into it. Yeah. Yeah. Needless to say, like, this got, this got memed to shit when this was airing. But, I mean, it had the staff members and had the cast list to back it up. And then it just, Akamika killed. I just clicked the, I just clicked the, sorry, the, the summer 2014.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Look at this list off rip. I was, it's funny, after, I was going to bring up a Maca Mega Kill. Dude. Because this was another one where it was like, all right, premises sounding interesting. First couple of episodes, okay, they're building it up and then. Dude, this season was stacked full of like shows you remember. Yeah. And then the more episodes that went on, it was just like, oh God.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Barakamon. Bangor. Oh, book of circus. Can you about that? Oh, shit. Railroad. Real? God. Bass dandy season two? Very fucking show. Yeah. Dramatic murder.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Yo. The OG woman, women, gooners. Woo! Uh, fate? What the fuck is this? Oh, Prysma Ilya. Yeah, this is the second season. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Yeah. Yeah. Dude, like, down, this is a blast from the past, man. What a fucking, yeah, look at this. back when it felt like they made shows good. I know. Remember when seasons were good? Okay, actually this. But like, look, I could scroll down all this list.
Starting point is 00:51:25 Yeah. The TV continue. Oh, I mean, I guess this is, yeah, this is like the mainstays. Yeah, this is all mainstays stuff. But yeah, like, oh, do Jojo part? Part three. The second part was airing during this. Oh, my God, bro.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Damn, this is peak anime-man era, man. Dude, I watched all of these. Yes. I know. I don't remember most of them, but. Yeah. Yeah, so a lot of these are talking about biggest disappointments. It's funny because I would know Zero 2 is here.
Starting point is 00:51:52 I can't make a kill. And Tokyo, yo, the big three of like disappointments of this entire decade. The disparity between the beginning of this season and the end of this season, it's just like, bro. Yeah, wow. Like that's, wow. That's like such a fucking lineup for a season. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:13 This is when, though, it was really fun. I felt like. And maybe I'm getting older, but this is when like keeping up weekly with the seasonal shows was really fun. Yeah. Like it was actually because everyone was only really watching like six or seven shows.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Yeah. And yeah, but you know, some people who'd watch like love stage or whatever. But like if you were an anime fan at this time, it was so fucking good because everyone was watching these shows. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:52:37 Like you could go online and talk to anyone and they'd all be watching, I can make a kill, Tokyo soul out of line two, Zanku Not Terra. Al-Hodder Ride as well, a lot of people watching. Everyone will be watching Al-No Zero. Yes.
Starting point is 00:52:49 My viewers will be watching Corrissuji. Like, it was really fun to watch anime at that time. And now, not so much. I just get too much anime. And the way it's released is different. Yeah. But I think I'm also getting older and I'm less into it. No, no.
Starting point is 00:53:04 As somebody still makes videos on anime, I think there is definitely a truth to that. Like, I've been thinking about, you know, I sometimes make like videos just reviewing the current state of like anime. And it almost feels like in this modern day, it's going to sound like, not hypocritical. It's going to sound weird now that anime is more popular than ever. But we're kind of seeing the death of the anime community.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Yeah, there isn't really an anime community. Because it's been slowly spread out thin. Yeah, yeah. It's slowly been spread out. It's gone from like a pretty like small yet deep community. to now a really wide but kind of shallow community. Yeah, I was literally thinking about this in like the shower the other day
Starting point is 00:53:49 because I was like thinking about my first convention experience. Yeah. Again, this is all we're going to loop around here, but this is going to make sense. I met Chris and the first time I told Chris this story, he's fucking dying laughing, that I went to America and I had just such a weird experience the first time.
Starting point is 00:54:01 The first anime convention I went to was in Indiana and I had like 70 or 80,000 subscribers. But, and the reason why I brought it up is because back then, like, it was really weird how, Now, if we went to an anime convention now, like, obviously, not to like, you know, but we're pretty well known in the anime space, but I don't feel like at an anime convention now that like a good chunk of people would have any clue who we are.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Yeah. Right? Which is whatever, don't give a fuck. It's fine. But back then it was like, when I went to one of these small cons, so many people would come to me. For sure. Loads of people, loads of people at the convention.
Starting point is 00:54:36 And it definitely felt like, okay, that was much more of a community at that point. Yeah, there were a couple of people who were like 40, 40, 50, who were definitely like the OG anime fans who've been watching it like VHS trading from that dude from Milwaukee who had a copy of like fucking whatever the fuck he had in his basement like those dudes were still around because you don't really see those guys anymore anime conventions but like back then there was still like a couple of those people around um but yeah no so that was just really interesting and i i just thought about how yeah man the anime community has changed so much where like now it really does feel like yeah it's it's so shallow like you mentioned like
Starting point is 00:55:12 Yeah, the culture is shifted for sure. I mean, it's growing more and more. Like, no, you never say, I say the death of the anime fan because you don't see someone who's just like, hey, guys, I'm a gaming fan. Like, yeah, no, no, no one's a fan of gaming. People just game. Yeah. People just play games.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Yeah. In the same way. Yeah. You watch the movie you like. Yeah. In the same way that now anime is just becoming more synonymous with pop culture that people are just, you know, people don't just say they're an anime fan anymore. People just watch One Piece or they,
Starting point is 00:55:45 or they catch the latest episode of Jesus Christen. They just watch stuff, you know. It's gone to the, yeah, that's the thing. It's gone to the point now where it's not, it hasn't turned into like a niche that you can like really sink into, but rather just like another thing that everybody does. And now it's almost gone to the point where in some parts, it's weird to not watch anime.
Starting point is 00:56:06 Well, yeah, because like I think a lot of people, it's very normal to watch, or these big shows. Yeah. But then like, I would say someone who might watch Ardnau Zera does not have a whole lot in common with someone who just watches like- Nizu Kaysen, whatever comes up, right?
Starting point is 00:56:19 So it's like, it's just so different. Yeah. Very different. And not to say that there aren't people within that shallow pool who are like super deep into it or whatever, like of course not. But I feel because now there are so many more people who are just kind of skimming the surface of anime and not wanting to go further deep, yeah,
Starting point is 00:56:35 it's harder to be like, hey, do you know that like one super niche show from like the mid-2014 whatever. Yeah. And they'll be like, you know, 99 times out of 100 now, just be like, no, what the fuck is that? You know, you can't talk to these people anymore. And I think it's just kind of like mirrored the way the internet has grown with this community as well, which is just, instead of being one uniform kind of community, it's just a lot of bubbles. Yeah. Like you were saying when you, you know, even though you had a lot less subscribers, you probably got recognized more to events back in the day. Because now, you know, even though our subscribers, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:10 our viewer numbers are like way bigger than they were back then. People who attend conventions, do they just watch Netflix shows? Did they get their entertainment from TikTok? Maybe there are some people who watch YouTube like us, you know? There are so many different like bubbles and circles where you can be part of an anime community without having to really even converse or engage with any other parts of the community. Yeah, I felt like there was a lot of emphasis on watching like the classics back then. Like you would watch the best shows
Starting point is 00:57:41 that have been around for a long time. Whereas now I feel like, there's not really a need to, because there's always so much shit coming out. And you're not gonna have a conversation about Cho bits anymore, unless you're talking to us. Which, as a Cho bits fan, I'm severely disappointed.
Starting point is 00:57:55 Which, let's listen to the opening one more time. Run it back. You're gonna banga, banga. No, it's gotta be the best one for real. This is legit the best one for real. Dude, it's so good. Oh God. I hope this isn't get copyrighted.
Starting point is 00:58:09 claim because this is so, fuck. We're gonna have to cut all of this. Fuck. They don't make him like the Easter man. We're, we're vibing right now. You can't see him. They don't make him like an Easter man. Crying, I miss being young.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Oh my God. God. Do you know, do you know one of the nights I think about? It's the night where we were in Singapore. And it was me, Joey and Alan. And all we did until like, 5 a.m. which is
Starting point is 00:58:41 blast like anime openings. Drunk as shit. Drunk as shit. Having Domino's pizza, that was just a absolute fucking line. I have never I remember I've never sweat more in my life once the fucking air gear opening came on.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Oh my God. And I'm like I've never head banged harder my fucking wife. There's a three-duces fucking moshing in a Singapore like Airbnb to the air gear opening. I never felt so left out in my life. Seeing you all of you guys being happy in Singapore
Starting point is 00:59:14 and I was stuck in fucking the UK. Oh, yeah, this was like pre-Japan. Yeah, this was years ago. I was living in Thailand, which is why it was easy for me to. Yeah, because you just went there. I just went there. I was like, I'm living nowhere.
Starting point is 00:59:27 I would have to show up. We were partying. Dude, man. It makes me realize how fucking fun hanging out was when you're so young because you just did like, there's no consequences. Yeah, exactly. You're just like, yeah, let's just fucking get drunk till five and figure it out.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Yeah. Tomorrow I'm like, shit, man. I'll go to go to the doctor. Got to search my accountant tomorrow. Like, dude, if you're watching this and you're 22, just fucking go out and have some fun. Go to your friends. Watch some fucking anime. Get the boys together. Get the boys together.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Get some fucking pizza. Get some drinks. And then. That's the shit you remember. And then once you get drunk enough, just fucking get the Bluetooth on. Just start blasting your favorite anime openings and just fucking wash out, man. That's the best nights. God.
Starting point is 01:00:07 Like some of these, some of these shows, even though I look back of them, you know, Akamika Kiel makes me somewhat nostalgic. I like a Kamega Kiel. I'm in the minority. What did you like about a Kamea Kiel? How old was I? I was 18, so this is like everything I wanted.
Starting point is 01:00:24 You were on like the tail end of the age this would appeal to. Yeah, this is literally like my fantasy. I wanted a strong, powerful woman to dominate my life. I gotta say. I can't argue with that. I mean, look, I can't argue with that. Do I know this show is dumb?
Starting point is 01:00:44 100%. But did I, did I want to be... Tatsumi so badly? Yes. It wasn't even just that. It was just the amount of like, I remember people were just like, oh, this is so good.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Every character is just dying. Oh, it's so unpredictable. It's like, meanwhile, I'm like me who's played Halo Reach. First time. I mean, look, don't get me wrong. Like, there were parts of it I enjoyed. Like, I did have, I do remember having a ravenous attraction to Esdeath.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Who did it enjoy? You know? I think you, I think, you know, the, the category of being attracted to Ed's death is having a pulse. Yeah, you know, pretty much. Yeah, it's just a shame that the show was kind of ass. But I think it came at the right time in my life where I felt like it was exactly what I needed.
Starting point is 01:01:30 Well, every, I feel like every generation, I don't know what the modern, what is the modern, I can't make a kill. Solo level. No, true. Wait, wait, hold up. I think he's cooking. Maybe he's cooking. It's not as edgy as Akamika Kill.
Starting point is 01:01:45 But then when I ask people to tell me why they like solo leveling, I feel like they talk about it the way I talked about Akamego Kill. Like, they're like, they can't tell me anything that's actually like really unique or good about the show. They're just like, nah, but it's like sick though.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Yeah, I just enjoyed it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. One word. ORA. That's it. Well, that's the shows that go right now, right? Or a farming is a thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:09 Farming. Yeah. Like this is all like, like, like I think, I think the JJK community has just proved that if you have aura, everything else is irrelevant. Yeah. You know, everything is forgiven.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Because one big difference, I will say when you compare soda leveling to something like sort of online. Yeah. Kirito does not have the aura. Negative aura. Maybe as a kid, I thought he did. But looking back,
Starting point is 01:02:37 I'm like, God damn, boy. He's just a little shit. But I think like when you're like 15, that shit's like crack to you. Like just seeing a guy that you wish you could be. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's why like, you know,
Starting point is 01:02:49 when I was 15, like, I thought high school DXD was like the best fucking show on the planet. Hey, you take that bad. Because I was like, I want to be Isay. I want to be the fucking super, you know, the super strong main character with all the bitches. There is no way. This is genuinely a savage.
Starting point is 01:03:05 There is a way. It is genuinely a seven. It is a masterpiece, baby. Like I, this is the shit. I did watch three seasons of this, but that's, okay. Yeah, dude, this was the shit. No one who I've, okay, here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:03:21 No one who I've met who has watched high school DXD has a bad thing to say about high school DXD. How many seasons they have? They had five, I think. Oh my God, I watched so many. But they changed studios halfway and that's when I lost it. Did they ever become like just straight porn? What do you mean?
Starting point is 01:03:36 Did you watch it? I did, yeah, but it wasn't, it wasn't like porn, porn. I mean, it was pretty boring. It wasn't like hentai. I mean, it never got to that realm, but like, it was always kind of on the castle. Like, you know. This is the gateway to hentai.
Starting point is 01:03:48 People don't realize it because they want to, like, draw the line. Like, a lot of people don't want to watch hentai. And then they watch this and they're like, I want to watch Hentai. Well, high school DXD ran so Riedoverhiel could walk, all right? Yeah. This is the, this is actually terrible.
Starting point is 01:04:01 In terms of the horniness level, though, this was the show that, like, started it. Like, the fact that this is a six. Like, I hate to be that guy, but this has to be like bumped up just because of the current political, like landscape. We're like, yeah, it's a man. I mean, I don't know. I thought it was all right. It wasn't good.
Starting point is 01:04:21 I thought it was okay. You are just saying that because you met the series writer and you feel like you can't say it shit. No, I can't say it shit. I said it was shit to his face. Okay. How did he respond to that? He just laughed. And he's like, I'll cry in my bins.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Is that what he said? No way. He says something along those lines. He's like, he's like, bro, I don't care. He's like, bro, I don't care I'm rich. Fair enough. Yeah, I mean, I mean like my generation of Karmica kill was most definitely Elfin Leeds.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Elfin Leeds. Elfin Leeds. That was the goat? God. What? I think if Elfin Leared, was Alfon leered sexual? I mean, it had naked women. It had a lot of naked women like.
Starting point is 01:05:02 It wasn't so much like. It was more edgy. It was just really, really gory. It wasn't so much like. Like, oh my God, I want to be this guy. Because, holy shit, this world is horrific. None of these guys you want to be. Yeah, you don't want to be any of these guys.
Starting point is 01:05:13 But this is the show where you watch as a kid and you're like, damn, I'm an adult now. I see blood. Anime is not just for kids. I see blood. I guess because like, we didn't really have anything like this, like in Western thing where like people were just being fucking decapitated and it was dark and grimy and it was, you know, it was just edge, pure edge. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:35 I mean, the fucking, the first scene of the first episode is a severed up. arm on the ground. Like the entire fucking like, what do they call the scientists, just all like guards being fucking wrapped. Yeah, just being getting actually demolished. Yeah. And I like, fuck, when did this come out, 2011? Something like that.
Starting point is 01:05:50 Oh, to-Jewy. 2004. Yeah, when I got into anime, oh my God. This was like, because there was like a, I don't know which store it was in the UK. There was a store that he's just sold every anime for like 10 pounds for season. And I would just buy everything because this is when I had money when I went to McDonald's. Yeah, right. So I would just buy all these and watch them.
Starting point is 01:06:10 Yeah. Oh, speaking of fucking disappointments, like this is the, this was around the period where like, all right, so this was when, what, I was probably 15,
Starting point is 01:06:17 maybe when I first watched Elfin League, you know, right at the peak time where like, you know, I'm 15 and this is deep. Yeah. Right. And I was like, Elfin Lead,
Starting point is 01:06:24 modern masterpiece. What else has this man made? Oh, he made this show called Gok, Gokokkonor Brynhielder. Oh! Oh, my God. And I watched it thinking,
Starting point is 01:06:36 and I watched it, thinking, damn, this is gonna be like Elfin Lead and it was ass. It's so, so ass! Was it a horror episode? A horror thing? Yeah, yeah, it's made by the same guy. Mild nudity. Who made Elfin League. Okay, so what is it about?
Starting point is 01:06:51 He basically was just trying to bank off of Elfin Leeds success. Okay. But with a really just dog water story. Yeah. And that was the big disappointment for me. I was like, it was so bad that it made me question if Elfin was even good. Elfin League wasn't good. It wasn't good.
Starting point is 01:07:07 Yeah. But at the time I thought it was good. This basically just didn't have the same edgy appeal as Elfin Lee did. No. It came on 10 years later as well. Yeah, 2014, again. Spring 2014.
Starting point is 01:07:18 What came out there? What are they competing against? No game or life in high-key. Oh my God, Jojo Part 3. Fairy tale. Black bullets! Oh my God! Dude, I always bring this up as the quintessential,
Starting point is 01:07:30 like mid-2010, 7 out of 10. Yeah. Like when you think of a 7 out of 10. I wouldn't even rate this a seven, dude. This is really five. It's a realistically five. Dude, but this was really popular. This is very popular.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Yeah. Because I think, I don't know why, like the fucking masked villain guy was really fucking popular. This guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everyone loved this guy. You remember this guy?
Starting point is 01:07:52 Yeah, I remember this guy. This is such a, I don't know why. I can't put my finger on why, but I feel like this is such a Tumblr-coded, like, I don't know. Something about it would have popped off from Tumblr. This fucking season, dude.
Starting point is 01:08:06 Mekoxty actors, Datalai 2, ping pong. I enjoyed it. I watched this, I don't know anything about it. I read the novels for it. Is this a series? Do they have a bunch? No, no, no, there's only one season of the anime, but the novel series had like 12 volumes or something.
Starting point is 01:08:22 Yeah. It was a really long series. Oh my God, I remember. Yeah. She looked like budget hats in America. Yeah. God, Black Bullet was also far. I would wonder if Black Bullitts.
Starting point is 01:08:34 bullet was made today, what would Twitter's reaction be to it? Because holy shit, some of the scenes and that, do you remember the scene where he's- I know exactly what you're talking about? It's just, obviously there's like sussy scenes where he wakes up in bed with like the fucking two- I don't remember this. Do you not remember this?
Starting point is 01:08:54 No, I don't. The scene I remember was, I think he was like, he saved a fucking hospital or something, and he's just surrounded by kids or something. What? Laughing. Yeah. There's some really suss scenes in Black Bullet.
Starting point is 01:09:07 Black Bullet. Hospital. Was it a hospital? I can't remember. Ending, sure. Okay. I don't think it's this. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:09:18 But I don't know. You don't have to go too far to find sussy scenes in Black Bullet. And I'm like, ooh, in this current climate, ooh. How would this go down? This was around the time where the, I think, the anime industry. was just like a little too reliant on light novels
Starting point is 01:09:37 where they're like, all right, this, this will do. Let's animate this, I guess. Oh my God, bro. It'll do all the smirk at the end there. Oh my God. Do you fair, there are way sussier scenes than that in black bullets. This scene definitely hits the hardest the series. Whoa, so sad. Oh my god. This anime takes discrimination to its core makes me so mad.
Starting point is 01:10:14 Oh, fuck. God. I mean, I think Black Bullet wasn't a bad show, it was just a mid-show. Yeah. Like a lot of these stuff. Um, another, another, another, a comica kill. Um, future diary. Yeah. Yeah. And again, another one where the first time I watched it, I was like, all right, That was pretty good. And then years later, I rewatch it. I was like, actually, this was not very good. So obviously there was, there was yonderries before her. Yes. But is she like the one that propelled, you know, guys, are she the one that propelled like yonderi into like the stratosphere in terms of anime fandom? In the West, probably. In Japan, though, it was, um, Kyadee from Shuffle. What? Shuffle. You remember Shuffle? I remember Shuffle. This was the goat.
Starting point is 01:11:02 2005. This was the goat. Which one's the yonder? The orange head girl. Of course it's the orange head girl. Yeah, for your, Kayedda. She was the one who, for me, was like, oh shit, yonderry's are a thing. But what, did she, I can't remember,
Starting point is 01:11:16 did she go as hard as Yuno Gassai? No. Because Unogasai almost, it was like killing everyone. But Yuna wasn't even Yonder, she was just fucking psycho. Like, Joey. That's the point.
Starting point is 01:11:27 That's the point. No, no, but it's to the point. Like, Kyeda doesn't kill anyone. No, no. That's the thing. Like, Unogasai was literally obsessed. to a cartoonish point. You know, there was zero fucking subtlety
Starting point is 01:11:39 to the Unogasai-esque Yandre. To the point where you couldn't take it seriously, whereas Kaide was the type of Yandari where it's like, actually, someone like this could exist, and that's fucking terrifying. Yeah. And I think that's why she's a better Yondari than Yonov ever would be.
Starting point is 01:11:54 Well, it depends, depends. Oh, wow. Different strokes for different folks. The voice actually, you know, I guess I sound like nothing else. Wow. Yeah. Damn.
Starting point is 01:12:02 That I'm living on those royalties, huh? But, yeah, I mean, you know, to me, at least, I feel like she definitely, like, made it a trope. Yes. More so than anything. It's, you know, the same way where you had, you know, tundereys and kudereys with, like, Evangelion, where they were more subtle.
Starting point is 01:12:25 And then as anime evolved, they got more and more tropey. You know, Gassai was the first one in my eyes who was just purely psycho on the yandere side. You point to yandere and you think, you know Garci. I think it's because they fuck too, that helps. Do they?
Starting point is 01:12:45 They fucking the show. Do they? Yeah, they fuck in the show. When? Oh. Do you remember this? No. When do they fuck?
Starting point is 01:12:55 Oh, that's a porn site. Oh, oh, careful, careful, Connor. Yeah, careful. Fantastic fendom. Mirai, Nicky, happy ending. I don't think they fucked. No, they'd fuck, dude. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:13:06 I remember this. Dude, they fought. They had this happened. Oh my God. Wait, you don't remember that they fucked? I don't remember this. I completely forgot that this happened. I don't remember this at all.
Starting point is 01:13:18 Why is there a fandum thing? Oh. I don't, I don't remember this at all. Yeah, they're like, fuck. And then she goes like, gigas psycho. Because I think like in the show or something, I can't remember exactly.
Starting point is 01:13:32 Like she's basically like just solo carrying him through this thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's like, ah, thanks for that. Love you. Bye. Let's fuck. And then she like, I think finishes the job. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:44 I completely forgot about that until you. Yeah. And I think that really helped the popularity of the show. Right. Because I think it was kind of like fucking badass. I feel like anime back then. Like no, they didn't have sex scenes in anime.
Starting point is 01:13:57 It just didn't happen often. No, I think it was that it's just that whole thing of the birth of anime fans being like, I can fix her. Yeah. That's all it was. And it's like, oh, cute girl who is psycho
Starting point is 01:14:05 and will kill for me, Tee, I can fix her. Like, it was that whole thing. I can't believe that show is the 36th most popular show
Starting point is 01:14:12 on Mal because I feel like I'm not surprised. It's pretty bad. But then again, I feel like the death game trope is really hard to tackle. Yeah. Because if you're following someone,
Starting point is 01:14:24 you know they're going to win or not die immediately. So you kind of feel like the stakes are not there. Yeah. So I feel like they, need to, if they were to do it again, it might be more interesting to follow perspectives and then
Starting point is 01:14:36 show people dying. I mean, I feel like when this came out, death games hadn't been done to death already. And now it's just, uh, now it's just everywhere, you know. Yeah. I think, you know, battle royale when that came out was fucking revolutionary. But also, I mean, like the first three episodes of the show were pretty good. And then the moment, it started getting deeper. It started just getting worse and worse. Yeah. As it kind of sort of losing the plot. Yeah. Because it had 26 episodes, but It pretty much broke down pretty quickly, I feel like. Yeah. In terms of...
Starting point is 01:15:06 The opening premise was... The opening premise was promising, but it just, yeah, it just kind of kept derailing in a direction where it's like, what? No, stop. Why are you going that way? Yeah. All right. Actual hot take.
Starting point is 01:15:18 Yeah. Since this reminded me. Okay. Talking about anime that fall fell off in my eyes. Your line April. Really? Yes. See, this is interesting because it's like, I hear,
Starting point is 01:15:32 a lot of, I feel with your line April, it's either you fucking love it and you think this is like the greatest show of the modern era. Or people are like that was a shit ending. The piano thing. I, um, see, uh, this is definitely going to get hit me in hot water considering how beloved this is, but I kind of like lost interest about halfway through when it switched. It completely switched, in my opinion, from being a well-written music drama about a guy dealing with his trauma when it comes to playing this musical instrument and kind of like learning to overcome that trauma and learning to like love playing music again. And then it just went full melodrama and I'm like, oh. Have you seen your line, April? No, I kind of had the two things I wasn't
Starting point is 01:16:22 interested in, love and music. So, you know, I would just probably not enjoy this. Yeah, yeah. For me, you would, you would not enjoy this. For me, it almost felt like halfway through. They were like, this story about this man overcoming his trauma, not depressing enough. When he should, she dies, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:43 Okay. I know that, like, just randomly. Spoiler alert. Sorry. We went on, we'll put a spoiler alert before we do that. Yeah, I just know that like she dies of like cancer or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, she does.
Starting point is 01:16:53 Not halfway through. At the end. At the very end. What? At the very end. That's fine. It's hinted, it's hinted maybe like four or five episodes before. And then it's just, is it like the coughing blood meme?
Starting point is 01:17:05 I don't remember. I can't remember. It's, no, I don't think. My most hated trope in his TV shows when the character coughs blood. And they're like three episodes later they die. I guess this is the end. Oh, oh, oh, oh. No, there was nothing like that.
Starting point is 01:17:20 They did it in like a subtle way, whereas like, I think she, I think, I remember the scene, actually. I think she like, the main character just, just finishes like a concert that he had been like really like hyping up for. And then she's like, he did a good job. By the way, I have cancer. It's just, I remember coming like really suddenly. Was it like horseshoeed in or did it just not feel natural? I mean, I completely understand why people do not like the ending for this because in a sense, it does kind of feel horseshoed in and very almost forced.
Starting point is 01:17:52 Right. It, like for me as a viewer, it felt like the series going one direction. Like I said, like, uh, the story about a guy getting over his trauma. And then it just felt like, from my memory, felt like halfway through there was a sudden shift where it was like, okay, actually we're gonna focus on the cancer aspect of this now. It's like, which is depressing. Yeah, it's like, did you watch Marsh Comes in like a line?
Starting point is 01:18:12 I did not watch that one. I heard that one was very depressing. I- That's a great show. It's like that. It's like, if you're watching this like really great human drama, or like ping pong, right? Yeah. You're watching this like great human drama about like, you know.
Starting point is 01:18:22 And then he just dies of cancer. No, and then and then the main character's breast friend comes over and's like, that was a great ping pong match. I've died. I've canceled. I get it. And the cherry on top. Also, I actually loved you as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:38 I completely forgot about that. By the way, I loved it this whole time. I love you. So, yeah, people with animation where they're, like, telling a really well-thought-out story, and then it just turns into like some kind of Oscar bait, like, I'm dying. Yeah, like a Romeo and Juliet situation.
Starting point is 01:18:51 It's just kind of like, if I can crash the car into the side of the wall. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I can see why people like it, because it is very sad. Very melodramatic. It's a format that works. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:00 And it has worked in the past, but I just feel like, yeah, no, I completely get it. Like, I love that show. I love March, it comes like a line, no, yeah. You're line in April. Your line, April, excuse me. But yeah, I completely get why people are like, yeah, that ending was just kind of forced. I thought it was like super gray
Starting point is 01:19:16 and then it just went, it just went full on, in your face depression. And I was like, ah, yeah. Man, I can see what you're doing. Man, you're almost your pedal is another sports anime. that I wish I liked more. I watched the full fucking, I think it was like 50 episodes or 38.
Starting point is 01:19:36 I watched the full 38 episodes. I never watched this. I liked it. I just, I don't know. I think cycling is just tough to make it look cool. I mean, now that you're into cycling, you should give it a watch. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:50 I mean, I watched this. Oh, wait, no, I guess you did. Like 17, 18. Yeah. Watched the whole thing. I believe I watched the second season. if I'm not mistaken, was there a second season? I watched all of this season, whatever it was.
Starting point is 01:20:03 Yoamushi. So, yeah, this is like, and I feel like sports animas, they get a lot of, like, safety from being called shit, I feel like, because they have the fans of the sport. Yeah. So they like them. And often it's a very safe formula.
Starting point is 01:20:19 Look at all this. And often with sports anime, there is an incredibly dedicated female audience as well, so it's hard to combat that. Like so many, okay, the new generation. Okay, this is the second season. I think I watched this one too. Yes, I did watch both these seasons.
Starting point is 01:20:37 That's really highly rated. It's really popular. And you know, I think like I, for a show that I watched 60 episodes about, you'd think I would remember anything. Or like, have felt fondly about it. Yeah, yeah. It's not bad.
Starting point is 01:20:50 But again, it's like, such characters that didn't really like, there's like, this guy was the coolest character. I didn't really like this guy. I don't really like these two. And then, you know, like, where a croc or basket, when the powers are fucking dumb,
Starting point is 01:21:03 you're like, okay, whatever. When the powers are dumb in this, you're like, what the fuck kind of power can you have with cyclists? I remember, like, dude, have you ever seen the main,
Starting point is 01:21:12 like, antagonist cycle? No. Yoamushi pedal. I don't know if he was the main antagonist. He's definitely more the weird, weird cycling. This, dude,
Starting point is 01:21:25 look at this fucking animation. I've definitely seen this guy's face before, though. He's like, he literally looks like a monster. Yeah. Dude, look how he cycles. Dude, how this cycle is insane. Like, yeah, he's like, he looks like a, like a human snake. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:43 And like, yeah, he's like, he just everything's gross. Oh, I've seen him. I've seen this, yeah. He's just so weird. And he, like, looks really fucking weird. He's cool, though. I liked him. I like him.
Starting point is 01:21:59 He's weird, though. He's all right now one. You know, it was one of those animas that you were like, yeah, cool. Happy you're there. I think most sports anime end up being like that. Yeah. Don't you think they like? What?
Starting point is 01:22:10 Whenever you watch a sports anime that you never hear about ever again, you're like, okay, that's fun. I mean, I feel that's most sports anime. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I feel like, except for the ones that are already in like the goaded staff. Well, I feel like sports anime's aren't often about sports. they're about growing up and moving on with school and stuff a lot of the time. I feel like
Starting point is 01:22:31 that's normally, normally. Yeah. If it's like this where it's like, we're in the middle school team. We've got three years left. Our sempai's leaving, you know, high, IQ is the kind of same where it's all about, you know. Well, I think the difference is that with Yao Mishapedo, it was decently popular, but it was not like the sports anime of the generation. It wasn't like IQ. There's no IQ, Kuroko or Blue Lock is now. A hundred thousand ratings for like, you know, That's not a lot. Yeah. Blue lock has...
Starting point is 01:23:00 Yeah, I mean, Blue Lock is massive. That is... Okay, that's... That's the wrong... That's the wrong... There's a lot of blue. This probably has like hundreds... 400,000.
Starting point is 01:23:10 Yeah, 400,000. That's crazy. And, I mean, it was the top-selling manga in Japan of that year. Yeah. So... I can't understand sometimes,
Starting point is 01:23:18 though, when it happens in Japan. It feels like, like, they're just like, World Cup. All right, we'll buy every manga. Yeah. Like, some guys like, all, I'll go and buy every volume.
Starting point is 01:23:24 Like, What? Is that how you guys the sour you watch? That's exactly what happens. That's crazy. Japan is all about like, oh, is this thing
Starting point is 01:23:33 really popular in training right now? I need to be part of this, no battle. Oh, the water cooler conversations need to be kept up with. Exactly. I need to be a cog in the system.
Starting point is 01:23:43 I need to fit in. Is there any anime you know is like fucking objectively bad, but you still fuck with? School days. Oh, for fuck,
Starting point is 01:23:52 that's what I thought of. So you admit that. It's bad, Joey. It is bad. It's just really fun to watch. Oh, man. What is some... You know, I don't know,
Starting point is 01:24:02 because I've probably repressed it into my memory. I don't know why, but I know it's fucking horrific and horrid. I still like guilty gear. No, no, no, guilty crown. Guilty crown? I love guilty crown, bro. Guilty crown, which was so fucking bad.
Starting point is 01:24:18 I mean, the ending, I've never watched an ending to an anime that, like, physically made me angry. I mean, it's hard because you go from, like, fucking La Louche to Shue. Yeah. Which is like aura minus five million.
Starting point is 01:24:33 Yeah. And it's like, because, you know, Inori's, you know. Yeah. Anori's inori. Yeah. No complaints. But Shoe? Do you remember anything about shoe? No.
Starting point is 01:24:44 I remember he had an arm thing. That was it. But I remember the, the OST for this went so fucking wrong. Yeah, yeah. That's what was like the, the stat, like the amazing. thing about this. Yeah. This had one of the most goaded opening. This reminded me of fucking a cell world. Excel world. You remember the show? I remember this show. Oh my God. The show that like you thought about watching but then you saw this character design, you were like, maybe not today.
Starting point is 01:25:11 And then you eventually get around to it. Yeah. I watched this shit and I was like, oh, this is made by the same guy who made Sawdine online. Bet. Let's check it out. It's actually so ass. It's ass, dude. But I liked it. I liked it. I liked it. because I liked when no one else, anyone else, but him was on screen. Well, I like Kurouki, man, the main girl. Yeah, she's cute. She's cute.
Starting point is 01:25:33 I just didn't fuck with. I didn't fuck with the main character at all. Are you kidding? You know, like, you look at a character like this, and I don't want to be judgmental, but at the same time, I'm just like, damn, maybe I do want a, um, aesthetically appearing main character
Starting point is 01:25:45 so I can self-insert myself into, you know? It's just weird, because it's like, little pro doesn't look like he's from the same, like, no, whoa. But the character design is so, So different. Yeah, the porky pig looking ass. Also hilarious fact. The Excel world main character and Shu from Guilty Crown, same voice actor.
Starting point is 01:26:07 Oh, shit. Kajuki. Okay. Just wanted to throw that out there. But I remember this was long. Didn't this have like two seasons? 26, I think. Didn't have two seasons or my dream.
Starting point is 01:26:18 Yeah, it was like 24 episodes. Oh, 24. Yeah. I remember it was long. And I remember it was really shit with the talent. No, no, it was only one episode. Oh, one season. Okay, do you remember the guy hated about the show?
Starting point is 01:26:29 I mean, remember you didn't remember this. They communicated through their mind. So often, often the dialogue, the scenes are like this. And they were talking and you're like, man, we saved the budget and the animation in this one, huh? The only thing moving on the screen was the subtitles. Dude, I just remember, like, watching this show. And it must feel like maybe, I don't know,
Starting point is 01:26:52 if I was a heroin addict and I smoked a cigarette must feel like. It's like it just about made me feel okay. during watching it. And the moment I was done, I needed more Sorda Online. Back when I was like 15. Yeah. I feel like...
Starting point is 01:27:07 You watch this because you're desperate for more Sorda Online. Pretty much. Yeah, back when Sotomay was everything. Yeah. You were like, this is what I want in life. I want everything.
Starting point is 01:27:15 I need this. Absolutely. Because at a time, viewers, you might not know this. Sort of online was the coolest thing in the world when it came out. Yep, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:27:22 Everyone thought it was like the best thing ever. I gave it a 9. I gave it a 9.5 out of 10 on my website. Yeah, you did. Because it was like gamers and anime fans, we got something for us. So it was, it was a, it was a, it was very popular. And Isakai, the East Guy genre just wasn't a thing back then either. So I felt like this, this was, you would watch this after you watch Sorda Al-Line.
Starting point is 01:27:44 I mean, I will say Excel World to this day. I enjoyed it enough. It still stands out compared to a lot of like the copy and paste Isikaa-a-Qa-Gi get now. I just, I don't remember anything about it. But I don't remember much about it. I don't remember anything about it. this show. Yeah. I just remember the pig avatar. Yeah. That's pretty much it. That's pretty much it. Yeah. Did they ever say why they drew him like that? Like, so different from everyone else.
Starting point is 01:28:07 Fucked if I know, dude. Yeah, I'm just going through 2012. See if I can find anything that I watched that was made as fuck. Oh, my, do you remember your own god? Yeah, I enjoyed that. That was a great fucking show. That was a good show. Oh, Nassel no Column X. What is the show? That's the one where everyone was like, hey, I think I like saliva now. Yeah, this one, this, this one was the artist. projecting their spit fetish into a romance show. I will say, though, main goal, kind of hot.
Starting point is 01:28:36 God fucking damage, sorry. Minus the whole spit thing. That scene from... Okay. Yeah, I don't show. This is going to get age restricted. I swear down. Let me have a look at this. Swear down.
Starting point is 01:28:53 What's the wrong? Oh my God, I remember that. The worst you can say is no. As far as I'm aware, this girl can share and feel emotions through saliva. What? Is it the whole premise of the show? Yeah, that's right. It was like, she was like kind of the class recluse.
Starting point is 01:29:19 Yeah. And she falls in love with the main guy. But the only way that she could like express her love was for her to like stick a finger in her mouth and then make him eat her saliva. What the fuck? Yeah. That was the whole premise of that show. What? Oh God, another show that is bad, but I still enjoyed.
Starting point is 01:29:40 Another. Oh my God. I was thinking about middest anime and another was on my one. Because back in the day, when you wanted a horror anime, this is the one that everyone recommended. Yeah. And it's so ass because it's that one scene. Which scene? One scene?
Starting point is 01:29:58 Umbrella scene. I hated this one. This is so dumb. This is so funny. So funny. This was hilarious. There's this one and also the elevator scene. The elevator scene is the elevator scene is all right. She fucking faceplants in the elevator and guys. Oh, the teacher one is my God, this one. I fucking remember this. He's like, you know, I hate horror media,
Starting point is 01:30:27 but this is just the perfect get us get some beers with the boys. Yeah. And just Just watch a shitty horror movie, man. Yeah. What the fuck is the show about? Yeah. And they never really explained why that happened. You know what anime? I thought was gig over a minute.
Starting point is 01:30:40 We've talked about it a million times. Erased. I just think there's never a bad time to show and erased. Yeah. I mean, you know, that was another show where like the first half was like, all right, this looks promising. And then around episode seven or eight or whenever it was.
Starting point is 01:30:54 And they were like, hey, you know that villain you've been trying to find? Maybe it's the guy with the fucking glowing red eyes. Yeah. I wonder. Fuck, I remember I try to watch fucking Vanguard. There was just so many fucking episodes, and I couldn't get around to it. I never got around to this one.
Starting point is 01:31:09 Oh, God. I will say, um, even though, like, there was a point where I was really, really invested in, uh, Darling in the Franks. Yeah, I remember that era.
Starting point is 01:31:22 Oh, man, do you remember that? I remember that era. Oh my God, I remember the show. Yeah, that was a good show. Myel monster, that was always like on, like, on control. Whenever you went on there, it always listed as like one of the best.
Starting point is 01:31:31 That was actually a good show. Fuck, yeah, darling in the Franks, everyone was obsessed with that show and it came out. Zero two was. Yeah, I mean, she was. Yeah. And I remember Darling in the Franks, I was like, yo, this is fucking legit. This is a great show. That was the biggest, like, jump the shark moment of all time.
Starting point is 01:31:51 Out of nowhere where they're like, yo, blood, aliens. And then it proceeds to get like more and more and more like progressively more and more stupid. Yeah. You're not studio Triggered. Like within the space of like four episodes, you end with like zero two turning into a huge fucking... It's a fucking stupid.
Starting point is 01:32:14 Meck monster. And you're like, what happened? What actually happened? I'll accept that they pilot it with their ass shoots. I'll accept that. But the moment they went into space with it, I was like, what the fuck is this, man?
Starting point is 01:32:26 What the fuck is this? It's a favor on that shit. This is so dumb. Like, I enjoyed it in a different way because there's like, this is the first. time when I had enjoyment, like, literally like, I enjoyed it because I thought it was a great show. I was invested in the story and the characters. And then the switch flipped and I enjoyed it
Starting point is 01:32:42 for the complete opposite reason. Just because it was like, how bad of a car crash can this be? I remember, I remember as well, I think it was like episode 16 or whatever it was where like the blue hair girl, the side chick, like, there was that whole controversy where, you know, she gets like, spoiler. She gets like rejected by the main character. Yeah. Yeah. And then the darling in the France community exploded. I remember this. It was like online. It was crazy.
Starting point is 01:33:09 Yeah, like people were sending like death threats to the voice actress and shit. And that was the first time where I was like, okay, guys, it's just an anime. Relax. Let's chill. Let's chill. I watched this one too.
Starting point is 01:33:19 I watched this show too. Oh my God. This was like peak. I was watching everything era. Do you remember the devil's part-time? What did it happen to season two? Why did no one ever speak about this show? It was not great.
Starting point is 01:33:30 Oh. It was not great. So what happened? I think, yeah, what happened? It just wasn't as good. And also, I mean, I feel like at the time it was very good. Maybe if it came out today, it wouldn't be.
Starting point is 01:33:44 Yeah, I think it just stood out, a lot, stands out a lot less now because the whole, like, reverse East Kai concept. If you're doing an East Kai concept, you better be doing something special to, like, stand out from the crowds. Yeah. And I think the magic of, the magic of it was just gone, I think.
Starting point is 01:34:00 Yeah. Honestly, not too much. to say about that. Unfortunate. Unfortunate. Oh, the fall off's, or emo. That was, that was an interesting, that was an interesting final three episodes.
Starting point is 01:34:13 Akunohana. Carnival, that was shit. Furtikano. Yeah, that was also shit. Holy shit. Speaking of like disappointments, Forloffs, Uzimaki last year. As soon as last year, man.
Starting point is 01:34:27 Don't remind me, dude. Holy shit. This shit was unbelievable. Yes. We were. So close to perfection and all it took Uzimaki from last year. Bro, they, they fuck. Why, why?
Starting point is 01:34:40 Just why. Hold on. We were so close to greatness. Yeah. What the fuck is this? Put it on. What? Is it on?
Starting point is 01:34:48 Yeah, it's on. Good shit. No, it's off, it's off. Yeah, that's right. I want to see this shit. You want to see the R18 stuff as well? Let's see the, what, dude, we've been awful. I mean, look, I have, I probably have a,
Starting point is 01:35:02 caught up to Hentai. That's so funny. I probably haven't caught up to Hentai in like a couple of years. I have no idea what's been happening. This ass. Is it? It's awful. I haven't caught up in a couple of years. I haven't caught up in a couple of years. I have no idea. Look at this. We have Chican dokuiten. Extreme molesters, terminus third finger. The animation. We can't put this on YouTube, guys. Let's go through the real summer list. There we go. There we go. There we go. Oh, my God. Whoa. Why is this?
Starting point is 01:35:34 Oh, okay. In the porn section. Finally. The real seasonal anime that we care about. The real seasonal anime. Right to hell. Yeah. Blur all of this mood.
Starting point is 01:35:45 Yeah. Back to the normal episode. Going back to the normal episode. Oh my God. Demons laugh. Did you watch a new season? Have you watched a new season? I watched the, uh,
Starting point is 01:35:57 sword smith arc. And that was the one that made me, quit the show entirely. Is that season? Oh, you gave up entirely? Dude, that season? Wait, what season is that? So fucking bad. Wait, how many seasons are we at?
Starting point is 01:36:12 Is this the one? No. Which one is it? Oh, the swordsmith arc. Yeah, I, this one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, I had to quit. They took the piss. This one, what's crazy is it?
Starting point is 01:36:24 It's 11 episodes, right? Yeah. You'd think you could just power through. It's so boring. Really? I've never been so bored during a show. then you would hate the new season because the new season is like even worse than this season.
Starting point is 01:36:35 How does this have 8.2? These people are asleep at the wheel. Because the only people who are watching this far are the people who only watch Demon Slate, dude. Bro, the first six episodes, pretty much like nothing happens in the fights. Like, yes, they are visually impressive, but nothing happens in the fight.
Starting point is 01:36:54 Every time, I hate this Demon Slaher fight formula. They behead the fucking demon. You watch back. You won't fucking believe. it. They flashback. What's his name? Tanjaro's fucking done it.
Starting point is 01:37:07 He's only gone and beheaded. Oh, wait. It turns out he can spawn two heads. You won't believe how he's going to do it. He's just about to slice the second head. Flashback. Cut to a different character. We come back as he's about to slice through the head.
Starting point is 01:37:22 It turns out this demon, his power doesn't come from his head. It comes from his anus, which he's separated four times to another location. All spread around the different. continents of the area. Yeah. And to bring them back, flashback, in the middle of the explanation. And then cuts to fucking, what's his name,
Starting point is 01:37:41 Pigman who jumps in. Inoski. Yonoski jumps in, slashes his sword, gets repelled with fucking ease. Yeah. Cuts to fucking Zenitsu. He's still asleep. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:51 Cuts back to Tangiro who's going, ah! And then he tries to cut one of them. He kills them. Guess what? He's not dead. He's only killed one half of the demon. He's still. He's still alive. This is every fucking fight in this show. It goes on and on, cuts back, ad plug.
Starting point is 01:38:08 Merchandise. And then he finally kills him. Turns out this guy was the lowest rated hashira in the building. No one even respected him. He was number seven. Actually, turns out he was the shittest of them all. That's the entire show. Oh, shit. Now I don't have to watch it. You just gave this rundown. And then they introduce a new hashira. Turns out he's a fucking dog shit. He's not good at this Hashira bollocks. He dies one to one's one to one against his bullocks. Yeah. What's the point of the show? Man, you're asking the wrong crowd. It's just fun action. It used to be fun action until they made it so fucking boring. It's like watching the THX promos in the cinema like yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 01:38:50 I come from the sound, but like that's, that's cool that the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, that happens in the movie. Yeah, but it's pretty. Yeah, it is pretty. It's the animation is so pretty, Connor. I mean, the latest season- It looks so good.
Starting point is 01:39:06 The latest season, IGN gave it a three out of ten. Good. Really? Is that one, actually, too fast. I'm one reviewer who spits. That reviewer dares to give things low ratings. Oh, really? Yeah, he's good.
Starting point is 01:39:16 He also rated Judici-Cai season two as mid. It was like, I think like a six out of ten or a... What did he do? That's my point right there. That's my point. I mean, I think it was going a bit too far. See, Season two.
Starting point is 01:39:28 Not season two was good. What's the name of this man? Yeah, he was six out of ten. What's the name of this man? No. Yeah, this is the guy, Raphael. My boy. I believe he, yeah, he's pretty critical of a lot of anime.
Starting point is 01:39:40 Yeah. And what I can tell. Oh, God. Solar leveling, season two premiere. What do they give this? It's actually not a rating. Yeah. Let's see what other ratings.
Starting point is 01:39:49 What are the, what are the, what are the, Lego Star Wars? Demon Slice Season 4 review. Yeah, this is the three out of ten, I think. Why does it say the rating? Three out of ten. God, damn. I mean, it had one good episode.
Starting point is 01:40:03 My episode was pretty damn good. Yeah. But that's it. Wait, but he gave My Hero season seven and eight? No, no, the premiere. The premiere. Oh, the premiere. Dr. Stone's season three part two review.
Starting point is 01:40:16 All right, let's see this. Eight. Okay, man, this guy's, you know, he gave us a-steam Slip. Attack on Titan. Jiuya into incident arc review. All right, all right. See this. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:40:26 Six. Okay. Okay. Jujitskyzs guys in office plenty of spectacle, but little else during the Shibir. This is what you said, Joey. Am I right or am I right? What did he put for the finale of Attack on Titan? That's what I'm...
Starting point is 01:40:40 Wait, wait a say. Yeah, I saw that. Oh, there we go. Series, series finale review. A series finale review. A 10. A masterpiece. Cinema.
Starting point is 01:40:51 Do you agree with that, John? I wouldn't give it a 10, but I would say that... I just, I mean, I appreciate that he's throwing scores out there, that give you curveballs. You know what's like a season two? 10. 10. All right. All right.
Starting point is 01:41:04 He's got some cred this boy. Demon Slayer season three review. Five. Mediocre. He just hates Demon Slayer, dude. I don't fucking blame him, man. If I had watched this, Blue Lock season one review. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:41:19 Please give it a low score. Eight. No, I hated it. Agree with me. Agree with me. Bochi the Rock, season one review. It's a 10. It's gonna be 9.
Starting point is 01:41:29 Joey. All right. You don't my boy anymore. Sorry. You were so close to greatness. We're just reviewing reviews now. Jamesaw Man series permit. Wait,
Starting point is 01:41:39 okay, no, I don't want to. I don't mind you in premieres. This is what it's come to. We are now reviewing reviews. Spy family season one. I guess seven.
Starting point is 01:41:49 A nine. Nah, that's crazy. That's crazy. Seven tops, bro. Come out swinging, please. My man had one mission piss off Jujitskyzen fans and piss off demons Slayer fans.
Starting point is 01:42:03 I think my man's pissed off every type of anime fans just from those reviews. The listen is so shit. I mean, the thing about Demon Slay is that if next season pops off, everyone's gonna be like, yo. It's so bad. It's so back. I'm not watching.
Starting point is 01:42:17 I'm not watching the, you can't, not even Batman fucking waterboarding me, pulling out my teeth one by one. After he's already circumcised me. Could get me to go and watch finish that fucking... Watch Dea Slayor. I will not watch that fucking season. To me, Dimaslayer has one job,
Starting point is 01:42:32 and it's just give me pretty fights. And that's it. If season three did not think of that... Allow me to introduce to you, Garn, a series that can do this but better. Okay. Stick man fighting animation. This is what you want, Kahn.
Starting point is 01:42:46 I know stick man fighting animation. You just want this, I'm just saying... Just go, just what you want to watch. This is just... This is just... This is just... Season 2. Tell me this is not Judges Kirst Kahn Season 2.
Starting point is 01:42:55 Tell me that... Nah, this one's got more complex, you know. This is literally Jesus Christ's season 2. What are you talking about? This is what I see when I watch Jesus Christ in season 2. You want to know that you feel of Judas Xen Season 2? This is it. Oh, here it is.
Starting point is 01:43:09 Wow, look at those. Actually, this is the fight with the bunnies. This is the fight with the bunnies. Damn, peak animation right here, boys. Look. Look at them. Oh. Damn.
Starting point is 01:43:23 Look, Judis Carson Season 2 is this, with just, you know, rendered with... With pretty boys. With pretty boys and 4K. Oh, you know what was also mid? It's just stick flight RtX on, basically. Yeah. Man, this is one that got fucked by its release schedule.
Starting point is 01:43:39 But it was kind of... I didn't actually watch a Qaeda of the Exiled. I watched it because the release was so far. We talked about it on Trash Tastes before, but this is like a long-anticipated Code Kios successor that just got marred by its release schedule. It got absolutely fucked. Did you watch this?
Starting point is 01:43:55 I did watch it. It was crazy. It kind of just like, they just, I remember we spoke about on Trash Tastes one time when like, there was four parts and they. Four movies? Yeah, so like, look at this with these schedule, right? Part one, 2012.
Starting point is 01:44:10 Okay. Part two, 2013. Okay. Part three, 2015. So it just took like a fucking giant two year break. And then they just dropped to three and four like right next to each other. I mean, look. But it was like one season of an anime.
Starting point is 01:44:29 I mean, I think the new Ava movies did it a lot worse. Yeah, I guess so. It was like a 10-year gap between 2.0 and 3.0. But look, they lost like a lot of people along the way, right? They had 100,000, 70,000, 75,000. I mean, I would say that's normal for long-running, yeah. But how does that happen to a fucking Code Gios?
Starting point is 01:44:49 You know what I mean? Code Gios was massive back in our day, but damn, like, you, this is a new generation of anime fans. You can't make CodeGios work 2012? I guess not. Like, you can't, like, you know, Cookios came out 2007, right? The problem is, is that CodeGios
Starting point is 01:45:05 had the perfect ending. Yeah. Everyone who watched Code Gios was like, no one was like, damn. I wish there was like more. Obviously, you know. We don't know what happened behind the scenes, but how does it happen where, like,
Starting point is 01:45:17 one of the most popular shows just absolutely, like, flound as its release and can't get a product out in time? Like, when there must be clearly like, I don't. There is no shortage amount for Kogios. Even though it's ended. I guess,
Starting point is 01:45:29 but I don't know. I feel like it is because that Kogiosch just felt like a finished product. The point is that... But the world is so sick. And I think that's what it was kind of trying to do, right? But then I guess it has like the Star Wars problem where they really just struggled to get away from Leloush. Like they struggled to get away from Skywalker, right?
Starting point is 01:45:46 Yeah. They weren't confident enough to tell stories without Lelush being in the world somehow, which I think is poor because like Gios is a fucking cool power. Yeah. I think the problem is, is that Gios, code Gios is Le Lush. Yeah. It's, it's in the same way where,
Starting point is 01:46:02 you know, Death Note is Light and L. And once one of those factors got removed, it just didn't feel the same anymore. You know, it's, yeah. I don't know, Death Note with Trump was kind of sick, down you.
Starting point is 01:46:17 I completely forgot about that. That was a cool. The one shot that came out. Yeah. If you guys remember this, there was a Death Note, one shot that came out. And it just had to be a,
Starting point is 01:46:25 Trump and the main character was, I guess, light that kind of got away with it. It's kind of a smart Japanese teenager who sold the death note to Trump. Yeah. Which honestly, would kind of feel like it would happen. We're going to buy the death note. We're going to buy it. The Japanese don't need it. We're going to give them tariffs.
Starting point is 01:46:44 We'll know how to use it properly. We're going to use the death note. We're going to clean them up. We'll make America great again. That was so bad. We're really joking, audience. Oh, God. I mean, what I liked about that one shot was just,
Starting point is 01:47:01 I like the concept of the death note, just being this weapon of mass destruction, which it is, you know, at the end of the day. It was a rewrite. It was the, it must have been this one, this one. Yeah, yeah, one shot. Yeah, this one.
Starting point is 01:47:15 Oh, yeah. And it was literally the aura kid. Like, it was like, light, if he was, light, if he had dressed in 2020, this is Gen Z light. It's literally Gen Z shot. dripped out light. And it was really fun.
Starting point is 01:47:27 I mean, I think it was just fun to see Ryuk again. Yeah. Just seeing Ryok get back in the game. Hell yeah. It was more of a story about Ryuk. We all know he's the Oji. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:47:37 yeah. I think Ryok is such a fun character. Riyuk is like the, I guess like, he's like the Hisoka of Death Note World. He just turns fucking up, causes mayhem. He's the most powerful guy.
Starting point is 01:47:50 And then he's like, all right, peace out. God, it was a fun there. He's found one shot. No, this was, this was great. I think it didn't over say it's welcome.
Starting point is 01:47:58 Could I imagine a whole Death Note sequel? No. No, no. But this as an interesting idea, I was like, yeah, fuck yeah. Yeah, I think even the creators knew that. Yeah, yeah, I think didn't overstay welcome, had an interesting premise, explored that premise to its fullest, and then that was it. That was it.
Starting point is 01:48:15 I can't believe that was back in 2020. 2020. Yeah. 20-20. Holy shit was so fucking good. What a fucking great. where the fuck has time gone now? Well, let us know down below what your worst
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