Trash Taste Podcast - We Sat Down With Australia's Biggest YouTuber (ft. @LazarBeam ) | Trash Taste #162
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Welcome to another episode of Trash Taste.
I'm Connor once again, I'm joined by the boys, Joey and Garn.
And today we have a very special guest, Laserbeam.
Gidey, how's it going?
Do you like being referred to as Laserbe?
That'll Lannon.
Either is fine.
However you want to do it.
I had a substitute teacher called me Langlan as a kid.
Langland?
Don't know where she got the G from.
A bit worrying if you substitute teacher can't read.
I'm pretty sure Langland's not even a real name either.
I mean, some people would say Lannon's not a real name.
You know, I've never met someone with that as a first name.
That's true.
It's okay, a lot of people think Gant is in real name,
which it probably isn't, but, you know, it's not real.
It is.
It is if you believe it is.
Yeah, my entire life has just been a mispronouncingation of my name.
But I, I remember at one point, I was like the only Gant on Facebook,
like, as a first name because, so.
What a flex.
Yeah, yeah, that's a massive flex.
That's how I know the name's rare.
Unless you type it out and time.
Any of the Lannons on Facebook?
No, so it's like a weirdly enough, it's like a,
last name that some people have, like,
spelled the exact way. A lot of people have Lenin,
but which is like L-E-N-N-O-N or whatever.
But my, I was named after the beetle,
but spelled differently.
My dad's like, specifically, I want my son
to have a hard time at school.
One look at me like, fuck this kid.
He wanted the girl, and he was like,
oh, fuck another boy.
So he's like, my favorite beetle, John Lannon.
He's also like,
One of the most questionable of the Beatles.
He's got, he had issues.
Could have been Ringo.
Could have been Ringo.
Yeah.
Could have been Ringo.
So anyone who doesn't know you who's watching this,
do you want to maybe just give a brief little explanation?
Oh God.
That's, um,
how do you summarize yourself?
I played a lot of Fortnite.
Make YouTube videos.
Some people like them.
Some people don't get a little hate comments.
Well,
that's because you also get a ridiculous amount of views on your video.
So it's.
Sometimes.
Sometimes.
But, yeah, no,
you know, only five million views,
I fell off.
I do say that.
Oh my God.
I do say that, of course.
Bro, I wish, man, I wish.
Yeah, you know.
One day, one day, maybe.
Peak Fortnite was a different breed.
Yeah, no, I've been doing it eight years,
eight and a half years,
started smashing things with machines.
That was my first channel.
Wait, right, what?
And then, that was a long story.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
How did we go from Fortnite?
So yeah.
Well, I was a construction worker.
So I was just bored and I didn't want to do,
I didn't want to be a concreter forever.
So I'm like, fuck it, I'll make videos because I watch a lot of machinima.
Oh, watch a lot of gaming content back in my eyes.
At this point.
When I, when I, when I first, I was 19, I think.
Yeah.
Yeah, 19.
Sort of just realized didn't want to do construction forever.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was like, oh, well, there's enough gamers out there.
There's enough people doing that shit.
So I'll do something different.
So I just was.
trying to think what do I have that other people wouldn't have.
Right.
And luckily I know how to drive an excavator.
I know how to drive a bobcat.
So after work, I just like set up a microwave, like swing it around like I'm playing
T-ball with an excavator.
I was like a budget slow-mo guys.
Except there was no slow-mo.
Well, no, I bought a slow-mo camera, but it was like a really shit one.
So I was like, and this was like, yeah, like almost 10 years ago, nine years ago or whatever.
So it was like, this baby can do 120-3.
It was like 360p inch.
It was really bad.
It's kind of funny.
After six months of doing that, I had 60 subs,
and then all my camera gear got stolen.
Oh, fuck.
I was in a regional country town, lots of crime.
And that's where I was like, fuck,
it might as well do gaming.
All I had left was my laptop.
So it came full circle, you were like,
fuck those games.
Well, it was more like, I have no choice now.
I can't replace this like five grand
of camera gear.
That was my life saving.
Oh my God.
It's all gone.
Like, how did you lose it?
Well, they just stole it.
What did you, like, they broke in and?
Yeah, it's still unsolved mystery.
So if anyone knows, anyone has any tip
I like how you sound, you just have it so like,
they can just take things.
No, no, I mean, I mean, I'm just like,
I mean, I'm just like, how did it,
that's a lot of equipment, you can't just like,
it's not like you can just pick pocket that, you know?
Well, yeah, it was just overnight,
they just break in, take it.
It wasn't the nicest area that I was operating in,
right, but, um, look, cops just don't really give a shit,
they're like, that's five grand stuff, like,
hopefully your insurance will cover it in two years.
Wait, did they take any,
Anything else aside from the camera?
I can't remember what they,
it was just a lot of camera gear.
That's all it really was.
Bro, this was a fucking hit job, man.
I think it was like,
it was in a box like sitting like right there.
Yeah.
So as soon as they get in, it's like right there.
So like, fuck it easy.
They're just looking for easy targets.
But yeah, enough, I had no choice to do gaming at that point.
So I was like, yeah.
You could have, like, if all of my gear got stolen,
I don't think I'd wanna make videos anymore.
Oh, I cried.
I would be honest, I was a growing man.
I was,
I was like a buff tradie at that point,
but I was tears my eyes.
I thought my dream was dead.
I was like, all my savings was on this.
Like, this is my dream.
Was YouTube your full-time job back then?
No, I not at this point.
No, you get 60 subs.
Oh, 60 subs.
Oh, that was a mumble-law.
Bro, you might, oh my, you had 60 subs.
Yeah, so five-k births.
Well, that was like my savings.
I was like, I was still living with my parents.
So I was like, didn't have any costs.
It was either like getting on the piss,
doing drugs or buy camera gear, you know.
So I was like, well, I don't want to be a drop kick.
So I'll chase my dreams instead of doing all my friends with doing.
Was it easy to kind of pick up gaming and making videos about that?
Or was it about it?
Well, I always loved gaming.
Like, I was a massive nerd.
Well, yeah, you said machinima.
Yeah.
So I was already, but I just didn't think it was realistic because it was, you know,
even as people to this day, stay, oh, it's too saturated.
You can't do it.
Yeah.
If you think it's realistic, odds are, you're probably way too overconfident.
Yeah, massively.
But I started out doing like American sports, like Madden.
I was like the Australian kid
that loved American sports
and that was another way to be different
I used to share it on Reddit
put my first videos on Reddit
like Aussie reviews but
Well I kind of just did really dumb shit
Like everyone was playing the game super seriously
They're like competitive
They'd do these series or whatever
I was like okay take the fattest dude in the game
Can you score a touchdown?
I sit there for 12 hours trying to score
until like the game glitched in some way
so he could score
And then I put it on Reddit and everyone loved it
Yeah that sounds funny
Yeah that's great saying like oh fuck yeah
fuck, fuck yeah.
Because I was fresh off the job site
and then yeah, so like instantly
as soon as I was doing gaming
within like three months
I had like 50K subs
it was like, oh shit
I should have done this from start
Was that like variety of that point
or was it?
No, it was just like American sports
like basketball, Madden
I think it was a year in I started doing
like indie game and shit.
Well but I think you already like
pinpointed the niche of just like
you know not doing what everyone else was doing
just being like that's where it is
also in Aussie playing American sports
How did you get into American sports?
I grew up playing baseball
whatever reason.
In Australia?
Yeah, I was shit out.
How?
Weirdly enough, where I grew up,
I've never even seen a baseball field in Australia.
You'd be surprised.
Like, Sydney does decent.
I was on the Central Coast, so like 2 hours north of Sydney.
Whatever reason my cousin was playing it.
He'd later go on to play in America, so did my brother.
Oh, wow.
You know, reasonably good genetics in the family, but not for me.
Not for me.
I was dog shit.
But it did mean my eyes were sort of open.
to, you know, foreign sport.
Right.
One day I happened to see a family guy episode.
Oh, yeah.
And it had Tom Brady in it, which, I don't know, he's my, he's my guy.
He's my guy.
Okay, okay.
And whatever reason, I just remembered that.
So one day I was just in EB games.
Yeah.
So, Madden.
And I was like, oh, shit, I'll try it.
Yeah.
Bless.
But yeah, I mean, I was just like, yeah, no one else plays this game the way I would.
And I kind of took that energy and saw the success from that.
Like when I started doing indie games and everything, same kind of thing.
When I started doing Fortnite,
Same kind of thing.
I feel like I saw it slightly differently.
Right, right.
Not that was revolutionary,
but I definitely saw it slightly differently.
Was it mainly like when you're growing up,
was it mainly just sports games you were playing
or just like a little bit of everything?
Oh, bro.
I was a fucking nerd.
Bro, you're on a podcast for nerds.
Yeah, you're right in that.
My first two loves were Roonscape and Wow.
So that's my...
All right.
They took my entire childhood years
and I was bullied relentlessly for it.
I'd never leave the house.
I mean, look,
I did the call of duties, I did the Fafas, I did all that.
Yeah, a lot of age vampires, like total war series.
Like all the strategy nerdy shit.
Yeah.
But yeah.
I don't even think that's that nerdy.
Maybe I've just grown up in a place where I'm just like, oh, I got so bullied for that
shit.
It was nerdy.
That sounds cool to me, man.
Yeah, I think it's cool.
Yeah, yeah.
I got bullied for playing Roomscape.
Oh, that's awful, man.
I'm so sad.
I miss the whole Rooscape kind of like.
It's not too late, man.
It's not too late.
Yeah, yeah.
I did play it like once for like a stream
and then it was it was a lot of fun.
Although I would say we played it with like a,
what is it like not a multiplier but like an accelerator.
Like an accelerator, right?
So we did like a promotion with Roonscape
and they had a server that was like times 50 XP.
Oh, that'd be nice.
And suddenly came to the realization
that I was like, I'm having a lot of fun
but if I just played this at normal speed,
how long would it take to get through all the content
I did in that four hours?
I mean after that I went and played
on the times 50 server a little bit more.
and I was grinding levels,
I was like, oh my God, this is so slow.
Yeah, now as soon as you go back to the normal game,
it's awful.
But it's weird because it's kind of game
that you play while you do another shit.
Yeah, that's funny.
Everyone who tells me who's played it,
does that.
Like, I'm doing something else
and I just keep clicking it
while I'm doing the other thing.
Yeah, it's such a weird experience
because you're playing it,
but you hate playing it because it's such a grind,
but you're just when you get a level or a 99
or a big drop with some shit.
That's just like MMOs in general.
Just dopamine.
Oh, but I mean, at least wow,
you're playing the goddamn game.
I feel like,
Like when you'll, you literally click
and then don't click for another like 30 seconds.
Like what do you do you click the tree
and then you're like, do one.
Click the tree.
You can try and come back click once every 20 minutes.
Yeah.
What are you doing?
So where's that a game at that point,
but like I love it.
Kind of sounds like a Gatcha game to me.
Yeah.
Like it's just taking like,
like it was one of the OG like grind mechanics.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then obviously Gatcha took took a lot of inspiration
from those type of games like cookie clicker
and all those games.
Yeah.
But you don't fucking click anything.
You just let us sit, yeah.
Yeah, you just click every now and then
and then you're like, all right,
I'm gonna leave it for 10 years.
I'm gonna leave the fucking cookie clicker on.
I hate those games.
I always just get, like,
I always start cookie clicker and then I just hack it.
Do inspect element and change shit.
Does that work?
Yeah, no, it just changed one value.
Like you beat the game.
But you don't get the gratification of the clicking.
Yeah, but that's actually-
The point of beating cookie clicker.
There is no point, right?
I don't remember it.
I don't think it does anything.
It's just to say you're beating it.
It's just to say you're beating it.
Yeah, I think that's why like I found myself actually kind of obsessing with it for like a three hour period and so I'm like, okay
I'm gonna hack and hack this and ruin it for myself. It's like when you cheat in a game. Yeah, if you cheat in a game, it ruins the game. Yeah, of course. So like you don't want to play it anymore. It's like a way to solve yourself from being addicted. Like if you play wow or something, you just buy it not so much in wow, but like you buy all the gold. You buy all the gear. Yeah, right. You're bored after 10 minutes because there's nothing to achieve. Right. Yeah. So like, yeah. And then you move on. You break that addiction.
Yeah, it's all about the journey, right?
If you don't put effort in, you don't feel like the gratification of actually getting the items
and actually getting like the power that you worked for,
which is like kind of like, I guess why pay to win games is a completely broken the system now, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
So even he knows you can't even pay enough.
There's always like they slowly like the minishing return it to the point that you drop in thousands
and you still can't quite always win.
Yeah, yeah.
So after the American kind of like gaming phase,
that you went through in YouTube, what came off with that?
Did lots of indie games.
You know, like everyone-
Breaking it?
Was that sorry?
Obviously breaking it as much as possible.
Oh yeah, ideally, like lots of mods and stuff.
Like, kind of what everyone was doing at that point.
Like that was the biggest thing was like the Jack Septica is the,
even PewDiePypie at that point.
Everyone was sort of just doing indie games.
Like obviously people were successful in Minecraft call or do, whatever,
but I still think the biggest games at the time were definitely like playing random games.
Then I kind of started doing React.
actions for a bit, like I just would look at Reddit
and be like, this is fucking dumb.
I don't know.
Did that do well?
Do people like it?
Yeah, I mean, at that point I was doing like 150, 200K video.
That's not bad at all.
Did that for a couple years, but the issue was,
it was good.
Then at apocalypse happens and the problem is when you're saying
all the naughty words because you're Australian,
you stop making money, so I was there.
You're having to, they're applying American ad standards
on other countries.
Yeah, yeah.
UK and Australia who notoriously swear a lot more than America.
The C word is so easy to say.
It's not even, I didn't even say C word.
It's just because the fact that like,
you know how some people say like, um,
like that's fuck for me.
I say,
I'm as well,
but it's with fuck in there as well.
It's like a sandwich of it.
So it meant that like every third word in the video was just fuck.
And especially the reactions.
And like I was probably a bit edgy at the time
where I'd show clips of like dumb shit happening.
Yeah.
No one dying.
it.
No,
so I did the Reddit 50-50 videos
and I always just lowered it.
Oh, you did Reddit 50-50 on YouTube.
But like,
you could kind of probably still,
anyway.
Yeah.
Like you could maybe see some fuck shit.
I don't know.
But I,
I deleted those.
But yeah,
I feel like I just,
2016 and pre-Utube
was such a different place.
So I was still kind of existing like that.
Yeah.
The whole back catalog
and then at Apocalypse happens.
So how-
Fortnite,
family-friendly.
You know,
especially the first year of Fortnite,
I'd still swear a little bit,
but I definitely tried to be a little bit more intelligent
with how.
Did you get a lot of parents, mail,
you've been like, you gotta stop swearing.
Oh, all the time.
No, what?
My favorite one, it's my big,
it's such, it's not even that much of a swear word,
but my favorite one is, it was peak COVID,
so like viewership was crazy.
It was the biggest Fortnite event at the time.
I think I had like 900K viewers
because no one could get into the game.
Right, right.
So I was doing a live stream for the event.
It got 900K viewers.
Was this on YouTube?
Yeah, well, I was the number one for that day, like whenever I'm streaming, I happen to be the number one stream.
So when the servers went down and only so many people were in the game, everyone just flooded to YouTube.
So it was just like crazy.
But the point is, I was saying there was like a delay in the event for some reason.
And I was like, oh, this event gave me blue balls.
And that's all I said.
It was the most minor thing ever.
And then I started getting abuse on Twitter from these parents like how disgusting I was watching this with my nine-year-old daughter.
Now I have to explain to my nine-year-old daughter.
thought of what blue balls are.
And I'm just like, why?
Why do you have to explain?
No, you don't have to explain.
Well, you don't, no one asked you explain that.
I was probably saying fucking shit
and stuff before it.
So like, do your due diligence as a parent
to know what your kids are watching
and whether they should be allowed to watch me.
That's all I'm saying.
Yeah, it's the moment you hear that Australian accent,
you should be on higher work.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's just like, that doesn't seem like my problem.
I gotta ask, because like, you know,
when you have your normal viewers on a live stream,
you know, you don't really bat an eye at it.
because you're so used to having this kind of audience.
When it was getting up to like,
when you had like 900,000,
are you starting to get like a little nervous?
You're like, oh, God, this is,
there's a lot of people.
It was definitely weird,
but I think because it was a Fortnite event,
you know how to have it.
I knew they weren't, like,
it wasn't so much about me.
It was kind of like,
I didn't feel the pressure.
It was more like,
is the Fortnite event good.
Just show it off.
It was just kind of cool,
but minimize that box of you in the corner
to shrink it and be like, show the room.
I honestly could,
I could have been on mute,
no one would give a shit.
I feel like once it goes past
a certain number, like you just don't think about it.
That's true.
Yeah, it'd be a lot more stressful
when you first started and you get 10 viewers.
Yeah. When you go from like 10K concurrence to 50K,
it's like, obviously you appreciate it,
but it's like, you're not actually changing what you're doing.
Yeah. Have you tried to, I guess, like more,
not so much censor, but be more self-conscious about,
you know, like swearing and just being Aussie?
I still, but more strategically.
Like I'll say it when it's necessary.
strategically as a last resort.
I was talking to Mr. Beast about it once like a couple years ago and he's like,
you don't have to swear to be funny.
And I was like, because he sent, he used to be a little bit more edgy back in the day.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He used to be 6,000 a year.
And he obviously cleaned himself up a lot.
He was talking to me about it because I was so stressed and my ad rates were so bad.
Yeah.
And he's like, look, I've got mine to this point from this point.
Like, he's what you've got to do.
And he's just like, you don't have to swear to be funny.
I'm like, but so...
That goes against every Australian, like...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's just such a fun word to say.
Yeah, it's so easy.
But, yeah, so I sort of toned it back and I was like, okay,
I'll just be more strategic.
So if like the fuck really serves the video.
Yeah, it really serves what I'm saying.
Yeah.
Then I say it.
But now I, you got to just be more careful in general.
Yeah, because I do like scripted videos.
And I also noticed, like, the big dip in, like, ad revenue
whenever like my older videos had much more swearing in it.
So every time like I script a video now,
if I use like a swear word, I'm like,
can I replace this word and it still hit the same?
The problem is though, 90% of the time,
I'm just like, I need the fucking there, man.
Yeah, of course, of course.
I can't need it, man.
You can't replace it.
Yeah, I remember we did a,
we just ruin our ad rates, it's fine.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
Like we're in Australia.
We kind of know.
when we're in Australia.
It's fun.
Yeah, yeah.
The ad rates are going to go done.
It was one of the, like, and probably, I guess in a lot of ways when you're scripting,
it's probably not as much of an issue.
But I did find it stressed me out so much more and made it so much more, like, harder
to record.
Yeah.
Because I was constantly thinking about what I was saying for the first time ever.
Yeah.
There was everything else who's always just be, even if, like, I think early on, I probably put
on a little bit more of the, I was a bit louder.
I was a bit more like talking full on.
Yeah.
But I still,
everything I was saying was kind of just whatever just.
Yeah.
Also, I, like, I can never know sometimes what counts as like a swear word for like the American
audience or like the American corporations.
Because I remember we once did a panel.
I think it was just me and Joey that did a panel in LA and it was like a very, very big panel
and we had to like sign a contract being like, you cannot swear on stage.
You cannot swear.
And I'm like, ma'am, I understand.
I will be, I will only speak the Queens English.
for this panel.
Within like the first five minutes, I say,
God damn it or something.
Oh, really?
And I didn't know that counted as a swear.
Wouldn't even think about it.
Yeah, yeah, I just said, God damn it.
And then they muted my mic, because they were like,
we said no swearing.
And I was like, what did I say?
And they were like, you took the, you took the Lord's name in vain.
That is a swear word.
If it's not a gosh darn it, then it is not on air.
And I was like, I could not believe it.
I've recorded with some people that don't like you saying, like,
saying like oh yeah god damn or anything they don't like you saying god in any way which is fair enough
i guess that i'll respect that yeah but it is such a so foreign to me for that to be insulting
yeah so like you said that like that when the apocalypse happened you were like affected quite
heavily like at to what degree did it affect you because like i feel especially you know for someone
like an australian creator where it's like so easy to just say fuck and like yeah all the other
words like how like what percentage of your channel just got fucked over um
I mean, so every video was demonetized.
And it was for like 18 months until I started a fortnight.
It was actually like, now if I look back, a lot of them got greened again.
Yeah.
Like how many videos are you talking?
I was doing like, I was doing daily uploads roughly at that point.
So it was like every video.
And obviously there was people so far worse off.
Because I was able to move back with my parents and stuff.
And I was probably still learning like five grand a month or something.
Yeah.
Apoclop said you had to move back in with your parents.
Yeah.
Well, I lived in Sydney.
it's just like I was paying like 600 bucks a week rent or something like that's like
that shit ad like you can't do that so I ended up like having someone else move in to
pay the rent and then I just went back to my parents oh my god and so I like but it's more of
the fact that like yeah I was still probably doing like four or five k a month or maybe
or something but like it was like but it wasn't adding up for the views you were getting right
and that might have been Australian dollars too so that was like I don't know this like two
three k yeah it's like I had enough
to live but it's like then there's no savings and stuff and it's like you're right on that edge of
like this is obviously enough to live that's like especially at that point in my life this is enough
to live yeah yeah I have a slight dip in views yeah it's like it's dangerous yeah it's like okay
then I'm actually got like so that's like it was more of the anxiety of being on the edge of that
right and granted bless my audience they were very supportive of the time because I was very
transparent about I was like I'm getting fucked
It's the last fuck by the time
And it was just like
You know obviously plenty of creators
Also still work and do YouTube at the same time
Respect that massively
But it's like once you break out
It like once I left the job site
Go on it's just like
It's a scary thing
It's like
This is not gonna last for it
This could disappear
Like if I have one little dip
I'm just it's just done
Yeah yeah
And yeah I don't know
Massively privileged too
That like my parents would still house me
You know a lot of people obviously
Don't have that either
So my situation was nowhere near as bad as it could be
but it just created so much unnecessary stress.
I think like I was there,
as soon as they started,
you could like review the videos.
Yeah.
That's when it got back up to like four or five KM.
Right, right.
Because like some of them would go back to being green
at some point.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So like we met a lot of YouTubers who kind of just like
fell into the occupation like out of, I guess, like accident
because they never, I guess,
they never thought that this would be a job.
It sounds like you got into this with the expectations
that you're like, I want to make this my job,
I want this to be my career.
Like,
When did you start to realize, okay, I could actually make this the thing?
Honestly, like, that, like, first three months on the gaming channel,
I was like, damn, shit's easy.
I'm actually fucking amazing.
No, I mean, I have massive imposter syndrome, so, like, the entire time.
Bro, so everyone goes, man.
Every YouTube.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was just like, this is going away.
It's like, I'm actually making shit videos.
Why is anyone watching this?
It's all bots or something.
But I was like, well, I'm not going to quit why it's working.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I don't know, always never felt valid.
Are you ever gonna go back to the construction routes
where you just start smashing shit?
We should revisit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That sounds like a long fun.
10 year period.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'd like to, honestly, like,
if I can get like a proper team
to do the proper slow-mo like I am the slow-mo guys,
like I do know Gavin quite well,
maybe get him over here, buddy.
Yeah.
Fill me smashing some of an excavator.
I mean, yeah, it'd be fun.
I have had something written down for ages.
just to remake my first videos.
Right, that'd be great.
Free videos.
I just don't like leaving the house.
I don't like touching the grass.
Thank you for coming out.
I just feel like real world production
intimidates me a lot.
I know how to like build some out
in the gaming space or even when I did real world stuff
it was always a vlog.
Like this, bless everyone all the,
everyone doing the production here.
Yeah.
It stresses me out so much like, you know.
Was that sorry?
Aren't you building a studio now?
We are, we are.
But still it's mostly just gonna be me sitting
in a desk there.
They've just got like offices around it.
Just staring.
Yeah.
And like I mean,
I might build off like a lot of what Lockhe's doing
and his experience and even work with the people here.
Yeah.
Knowing them quite well now.
I might do some real world things.
Might see me,
my favorite ones,
it's like a slasher,
so it's like a big lawn mower
that you put on a bobcat.
You can tilt it up,
you can throw things into it.
So I imagine throwing things into a giant lawnmower blade.
I watch that.
So obviously you started doing Fortnite
and that's where things kind of,
That was the big, yes.
So how did you go from, I assume when you started Fortnite,
it was already out, obviously, and it kind of already had its own scene.
How did you kind of see it and be like, I think I can do this differently?
And then how did that translate to you becoming the number one?
Yeah, so, I mean, I think when it came out, I had a million subs.
So I definitely wasn't like, stuff.
You were pretty big.
Yeah, I was still on like 150, yeah, like a video or something.
I started when it first came out.
So before anyone was really making videos on it, I was like, I was there.
I wasn't the first, but I was like,
I was within the first week or two of that.
I was sort of at least playing it.
But then I was having big issues with my eyes,
which I still do to this day.
So I stopped kind of gaming for a little bit.
I don't know.
So I left it for like three or four months.
And then I started seeing everyone going skits on it.
And I'm like,
fuck them.
I want it.
Like,
what the hell is bullshit?
I want to put it in the pie.
They're getting like six mil views of video daily on this.
Like this game's crazy.
And like I loved playing it,
but it was just like,
genuinely I couldn't look at computer screens.
I was in heaps of pain.
Oh shit.
So then I just said,
fuck it, fuck my pain.
I'm just gonna do it.
Your eyes are just like burning.
Like, all right, guys, gonna get a victory.
I sum it up by calling it like eye ligma,
but I have like three like conditions,
which are very complicated.
But basically it means my eyes always red.
I'm in massive amounts of pain
when I look at a computer screen
and there's no moisture in my eyes.
So it was just, I picked the worst profession
in the world to.
Yeah.
Right.
To look at a fucking screen.
But I was like, damn.
It was do or die.
I'm like,
I just...
That's the most
Aussie solution
I've ever heard in my life
just like
fuck it mate
yeah
genuinely I was like
look how big this is
I genuinely love playing the game
I love when I can make videos on it
I just want to do it
I'm just gonna have to
toughen the fuck up and do it
I don't know
I don't know
any other person would have been like
maybe I should just do other content
yeah yeah
I tried to do like
vlogs for a little bit again
I just struggled so much
with like organizing shit to do
I just lived in my coastal
town like what the hell am i going to do every day yeah like i was like logan paul was popping off and i'm
like yeah how do they come up with shit to do every yeah producers um yeah i know but still like
you ain't doing that on the bloody central coast like you've got enough to given it's a lot harder when
you're not near much yeah so i mean i think it was kind of similar to the sports videos where
everyone was like people were definitely doing challenges they'll do them mean things they'll having fun
but I was just so shit at the game
and I still am
that I just think I probably had
a slightly different
way of seeing things
like it goes back to that
like even if I other people doing challenges
I just didn't a little differently
yeah yeah slightly differently
and I had done so many different games
different examples of some stuff you did
oh god
what was like the one
I made so many fucking Fortnite videos
so the first one that was like
the big viral one was the first ever
Fortnite event I tried to stop
it. And that was, it sounds simple now because so many people, other people did it, like later on.
Yeah. But everyone else went, they just watched the first fortnight event. Right. One of my,
bless, I think it was toasted had the idea we'll sit in discord. It's like, what if we
stop it? I was like, that sounds like a fucking mad idea. So we practiced and everything. So
we tried. We didn't succeed, but we tried. What was a strategy? Ah, so we just built a
box around the rocket shit. I don't know if you ever played fortnight or saw that event or whatever
it was, but it was like a massive, that was peak Fortnite.
That was like Ninja playing with Drake era.
Right, right.
And it was a rocket ship, just going in the sky.
So we're like, let's build around it.
Wait, wait, so how did this event work?
Like, there's just a rocket ship.
Oh, so just in the game, at random one point,
it was like they added this rocket chip to the game.
And then like a few weeks later,
it just took off.
Right.
And it was like a countdown.
It was like the first ever like worldwide in-game event
that everyone was participating in at the same time.
So everyone shared the same space?
So everyone, if you loaded into a,
game was seeing the thing in the exact same time but everyone was in different games.
Oh, okay.
So you do different things where you'd like have for time exactly when you join the lobby.
Some people were like the game's ending as it was happening. Some people got eliminated,
it had to spectate it happening. But yeah, we loaded up like practicing, we practiced a couple
times. Watch, build like how quickly we could build it. Um, then we built around it and it just
took off straight through it, but it was bang a thumb now. And people just love the energy of like sitting there,
just doing some dumb shit like everyone else just wanted to watch it yeah the only one that did
anything different for that event we just say that's kind of like your content brand just taking
a game and just being like let's just do some fucking dumb shit we've got it when you're not good at him
you got to like you know do weird shit um like I my favorite fortnight video is the one where I won
without moving and that's just the same energy it's like everyone tries to get like 30 bombs get 30
kills I'm like did you win without moving I did win me I mean look look at I mean look at
that moving but it's because I stream snout my friend who was in the same office without him
knowing and he was like a psychopath at the game and I still got like one in the million all the
circles all that right but I was sitting in a tree I landed straight in the tree sat there all game
just got all the perfect circles like one in the million he just deleted the whole lobby had no
idea I was in the game looking for the last player he's like where is this dude it's me I'm in the
tree so then I ran into his office kicked him out of the game and I got the victory right
So that was like
You know
I tried for a week to get it
Like just without stream snap
And then I was like
Fuck I want to finish this video
I have to figure out how can you actually do this
And think outside the box
And actually I'd spent like three months prior to that
Trying to win completely AFK
I had someone literally
I paid someone
To just film the screen as they just load into the game
And just don't touch anything
Just to see if you can win completely AFK
So it was kind of like an evolving idea
It wasn't possible
Like it technically is
At any point
Like was there any like, I think we got a couple top threes and stuff, AFK.
But the circles would never go to where the AFK players would drop.
Right, right.
So it's just, you'd have to be so obscenely.
Lucky.
The odds just won't in our favor.
We've played like 2,000 games or something.
Oh my God.
At one point, we're running like three accounts.
Oh my God.
But yeah, no, it was just like, you know, I'm shit.
So I can't do what some of these other people are doing.
I got to do what's organic to me.
That makes sense.
Yeah, well, you're using that to your strengths, right?
And I feel that's like something that it seems like something that anyone can do,
but just like it's it's the difference between being like,
oh yeah,
I could do some dumb stuff because I don't have the skills to actually like play the game normally.
And then there's a difference of actually committing to doing it.
I think that's like the massive difference.
Got to sit there for a week film on something.
You know, that's another thing.
Everyone else, not everyone else.
Like that's like a very general statement,
but maybe like some of the people that I knew where I was watching or something,
like everyone was so obsessed with like the daily fortnight upload.
Yeah.
And I was for a bit, I would try and stick to it, but I was definitely like, if this video needs an extra couple of days, I'm going to give it to it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, I've heard that a meme now is a meme that's crept up is your upload schedule.
Oh, yeah, no, it's dog shit.
Yeah.
What's, is that to do with your eye?
Actually, in some ways, because I edited, like, I got help on like a couple videos, maybe like 10 or 15 videos throughout the years.
otherwise I edited every single video I ever uploaded.
Wait, do you still do that?
If it's on my main channel mostly.
Like, I get some, like, nowadays, if it's on the main channel,
someone will, like, do one of the run-throughs.
I'll add some, like, extra things here or there.
But I'm still doing the rough cut organizing.
I'm still doing the final cuts.
And sometimes I'm still doing the whole thing.
Well, that's definitely not helping your eyelid.
No, well, I see, right?
Oh, my God.
I think it's right.
You're this big and you still, like, edit your own videos?
Yeah, I don't know.
Like, I'm still, I'm trying.
I'm like, I'm trying to get out of this.
It is like a mental ill.
I don't know.
It's a bad thing.
You should never do it.
It's amazingly important early on to definitely do everything yourself.
Oh yeah.
You need to learn the skills.
You need to know how to edit so when you're talking to someone who edits.
You just like an idea.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what they're going through to make something happen.
So you're not giving unreasonable demands or something like that.
I think it's very important.
Is it just like the, is it the anxiety of handing off something that you made to someone else?
Sometimes.
Because I think that's like a big issue with like,
That was an issue with me when I first got my editor where it's like I was editing my own stuff for the first like four or five years of my career.
And then when I finally got to that point around like fuck, I don't have the time to like make these videos and upload them at the pace I want to.
Yeah.
And also like I'm just not very good at editing in general.
So it's like and I don't have the time to improve on it.
So I always had that anxiety of like, what if I give it to someone and it's not exactly to the vision that I wanted to or like how do I keep?
I don't want to be that annoying dude to just like constantly tell my editor like fix this, fix this.
fix this, fix this,
when I could just do it myself, right?
Like, did you have that anxiety?
Yeah,
I feel like,
I definitely struggle because I just,
like, no matter what,
and like,
I don't want to say everyone sucks.
Not everyone sucks,
but definitely people have different styles,
they have different approaches.
Yeah.
And I think I suck at the fact
that I am not very good at,
like giving notes and stuff.
I'm like,
oh, fuck,
I was do it myself.
Like, they'll send me back,
like a test at him,
like, oh, fuck,
I'll just finish it.
Yeah,
I'm just like,
because I'm like,
oh,
I don't want to sit here.
I was,
I was good,
frustrated. Like I said, it's me being broken in the brain.
Very cooked individual. Did all my own thumbnails, did all that. It's just.
Thumbails, I can understand because thumbnails, I would argue, is more important than the editing of the video.
Sometimes, yeah, for sure. Yeah, sometimes because, I mean, yeah, I still have not found someone that can edit thumbnails exactly the way I want to.
Yeah. Yeah, but like, in terms of doing your own editing, I'm still involved in my own kind of like editing when in terms of my own videos. But in terms of like,
rough cut that's that's a lot of work i i just do like the finishing touches man yeah
especially for someone like you who's like filming for like weeks yeah that's why i don't give it to
him because i know exactly from that like week of recording what i want in it right so like what are
they going to go through like 25 hours of raw footage or am i just going to go okay well 14
hours that was dog shit i know you can start stop recording but i hate doing that um i i
i rather do like big chunks and i go okay i know this part i want in and i'll just do i'll do that
right yeah we uh we filmed we filmed a video where we
We kind of like just drove from like
the most southern point of Japan
to like the most northern point Japan.
And we had like how many hours of footage
did we have for that one?
Well it was, it was a 10 day road trip
and there was seven cameras on it all time.
So it's like, yeah.
And we did not give our editor any notes
about what happened during the trip.
We just dumped like out of the video.
How did they even go through that though?
So sorry.
Because he's a madman, that's why.
Like I don't see that's where I'm like,
I struggle.
I'm not like the best like when it comes
to like managing people or production processes or whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
I'd have zero goddamn clue.
Yeah, how many people are you working with now?
How big is your team?
Oh, I think there's technically five of us.
Five.
But that's mostly just like, you know,
especially like, oh, I'm making a video on Roblox.
Like, help me find, like, help me test these Roblox games.
Like more of like,
even if I come up with the initial idea a lot of time,
it's helping me find the stuff I need to make it a reality.
Sometimes a lot of videos just have like that annoying,
anyone could do this.
It just takes 10 hours or five hours
to do the basic thing.
You're like, I don't have time
to spend doing that.
It's also good to just bounce off
people, get different perspectives,
especially like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I do TikTok videos or something.
I'm not just pulling up a YouTube compilation
of TikToks or scrolling my own TikToks.
It's like, I sent those boys,
and I said, you got a week,
find me the best hour of TikToks
and I'll watch the hour
and then we'll cut it down the 10 minutes.
Right, that's like the selection process for that.
Like that will literally sit there for a week
and grind out and find like,
I think I said one time in the start of one of them,
like I locked them in a room and forced them to watch TikTok.
And I pretty much did,
except they're in their own offices.
Like,
I just,
yeah,
I mean,
that's part's like,
because I don't want to watch TikToks first.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that part,
I,
you know,
I find it easy to get help because,
you know,
it's,
yeah,
it's like,
it's not the most complicated thing,
but it's still like,
they need to be funny.
They need to understand what humor is.
Yeah.
You still do you need to find the right people.
But that part's been alright.
Yeah, for a for a YouTuber your size,
five people is actually like a really fucking small team.
Yeah.
From from like people we've talked to at least.
I mean, Mr. Beast has a fucking army.
5,000 people.
He has like a village or something like.
Oh man, he's disgusting.
Yeah, he's disgusting.
I went yeah, no, in like a like disgustingly good kind of way.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, you've done a lot of videos of them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I visited Preston as well.
I don't know if you know Preston,
but he's got like a team of.
like 40 or 50 or something now.
People everywhere.
What's their YouTube handle?
Preston, YT, I think.
You did a lot of like Minecraft stuff
and like gaming stuff.
40, right, right.
What the fuck are they doing?
I don't know.
I mean, they pump out.
They're crushing.
So like they're doing something.
Yeah, it's gotta be working.
Actually, like it's the first time
I heard about you actually,
because I don't normally like play Fortnite's.
I'm not really like in that scene.
Ah, you miss me.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't play it as much as I should do this.
But yeah, it was actually from a Mr. Beast video.
It was the private jet video that...
Oh, that was a grind.
Yeah, hand on the private jet.
Yeah, okay, so...
Awful experience.
It was amazing, it was awful.
Exposing Mr. Beast right now.
He fakes everything.
He fakes it all.
Mr. Base fakes all these videos.
He, like, hit us with bats every now and then,
wouldn't let us go to the bathroom.
Touched the jet.
He's great.
Yeah, yeah.
So I think the concept
of the video was like last to take the hand off the jet.
Like, loseers or something?
Did you?
Oh, I came like fourth.
Yeah, you got.
I was there for 20 hours, thank you very much.
I left two hours before the end.
So what's it like filming on a Mr. Beast video
that intense where it's like?
I've known him for a few years.
Right.
But had never been, I guess I technically was in a video,
but I've never been in a video before.
And I think it made me appreciate him a lot more.
Because I've been in videos with some people who,
they'll, like, blow the edges a little bit.
They'll, like, force things to happen if it needs to happen for the video.
Right.
He is, when it comes to filming, the most authentic individual.
Because, like, he wants it to happen, like, for real.
Like, there's no, like, there was a whole thing where he'd booked out, like, other airports
with, like, other activities that were supposed to fly to in the jet.
Right.
But because enough people didn't get a,
eliminated in time for us to get like the clearance to go fly we needed to get down to like six
people or seven people or something um and we didn't like people didn't drop off fast enough
we just had to scrap all that oh my like that he just like invested in all this but he never
respected a lot because he never forced people to get eliminated yeah he made it difficult
but he was never like one of you guys are going to go like he never games that he was like
if you can withstand this punishment we'll sit here like we're not he didn't like rig it so that
we would have to go here or, you know,
we'd have to get to this number by this time
so the video's done by this time
because we've got to be done.
He made sure he, like,
booked out everything for as long as he needed to,
like with tons of room.
He made sure, like, there's no bathroom breaks.
Like, you're going with your hand on the plane.
Right.
We're eating with that hand on the plane.
Yeah, you put like this little tent around us.
Oh, yeah.
And then you had to smell the urine of the people next to you.
Oh, my God.
Disgusting.
Did anyone need to shit?
No one, likely, needed to shit.
Oh, God.
And I guess, luckily enough, there was no women on the shoot in that regard.
Because, like, I would feel so bad for them.
That would be, like, a cancel Mr. Beast moment.
Because, like, that would be mistreating him.
But, yeah, he's just so authentic and real when it comes to that.
And that's why he has so many people and, like, so many stuff.
And, like, he has all these contingency plans for every sort of outcome because he wants
it to be authentic.
Yeah.
And I was like, he didn't even blur any lines.
He was like, this, your hand is on the jet.
If you keep your hand on the jet, you keep your hand on the jet, you
win the jet that's it right was no bullshit was it torturous oh it was awful awful and because
everyone else was a psychopath like we're all just standing there and you just had to keep you can't
sit down anymore you can't rest you any surface that was like resting your hands slightly can't do
it had to be held up like on top of the jet like and then he taped us together to another competitor
and that's what did me and I was I just couldn't handle the tape anymore I had a bloke next to me but he was
like leaning on me. I was leaning on him and then
everyone else had their tape removed
because certain people got eliminated so they'll just
had no tape anymore and I was like just flip the coin
see if I can get rid of the tape.
How much did he tell you prior to like
the shooting? It was like how did he
pitch it? Just like hey I'm doing this video with a private jet
doing this video. Hands going on a jet.
Do you want to be in it? It's not
very complicated although we went to go
no that was
we went to go film it and then
I think it got
canceled to have to move the date
right so we got we call all the shooting location
that turned around that was fun
but that's because like everything wasn't ready
he didn't want it to be
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so then we had to film
it the day after the side men charity match
so everyone was like exhausted
I didn't sleep really before at all
there's a lot of elymire in that video
I was looking very fried
I do not do drugs
it is purely from a medical condition
so yeah he picked the worst day
that's why like half the side men weren't in it
because it was after charity
yeah fuck
I don't be asked.
I was supposed to be more originally.
Ah yeah, no, I think it was meant to be like,
I don't know if I'm leaking shit, but not that it matters,
I don't think, but yeah, no,
originally it was meant to be like all the sidemen
or I'm in it, yeah, yeah, except I think Vic was the only one.
Were you in the sideman charity match?
Yes, I was, but easy to miss me
because fuck did nothing.
I'm not an athletic individual.
So if you guys don't know, the side man,
chideman,
sideman charity,
match is just basically they just do football game, rent out a stadium. It's actually pretty
fucking cool. It was one of the most moments. It's very British and they play football.
Walking on a pitch in front of like, it was like 30,000 people or something. Unreal. It's insane.
It's such a cool concept. And I love sport, but I'm obviously not athletic. So I got to like
role play for like a day. Which position did you play? I kind of, I think I was midfield for
most of it played. I think I was left back at one point against speed. Oh my. Oh my.
He was doing some weird things.
Saying some weird shit.
She's weirder.
Nice guy, though.
Actually really nice.
Surprise me.
You're any good of footy?
No, no.
I run like a penguin.
I was just like running like such a goofy, dumb ass like the whole time.
Watching the clips back later, I'm like, I did not need to see that.
You don't really, have you ever considered how you run?
You've probably never thought about it, have you?
Well, no, because you never fucking see it.
You just don't think about it until you see it.
Especially when you're an adult as well.
right.
Yeah.
You see,
broadcast quality
of you trying to
sprint after a football.
Fuck it,
it's eye opening.
It's shocking.
So you never run again.
I don't think I'm running again.
Just wearing it off.
I go for jogs and stuff
and I'm like thinking
everyone walking past me
seen,
they're seeing that.
They're seeing me running like a penguin.
Either I'm a penguin
or I've got a shit in my pants
and trying to squeeze my cheeks.
I thought you did a lot of sports
as a kid though.
I play baseball
and I ran to first base
like a
That's why everyone's
That's why I sucked at baseball.
Oh God.
I didn't, I don't have my brother's genetics.
Damn.
Did you only play baseball or like any other sports as well?
Mostly baseball.
I did a little like school sport and stuff.
Yeah, because what's normal in
Australia for like the curriculum?
Because in like in England,
obviously you have like footy,
cricket as well.
Yeah, I think for us it's like, like cricket, like footy, like rugby.
Yeah.
That's pretty much it.
Pretty much it.
That's all I, like, all I did for PE was like,
yeah, pretty much just cricket.
Yeah.
Not keeping your hand on the jet.
No, nothing prepared me for that.
Damn, why didn't school prepare me for the real shit that's going to happen?
Man, I think if I had slept the night before,
or if I just could,
if I won that coin flip to get the tape off,
I reckon I won them.
One thing that you did with Fortnite,
which I found really interesting,
was that you have a skin in Fortnite.
Yes.
How did the, how did all that go about?
Like, was that conversation?
They approach you like, we'll want to put skin.
Yeah, no, I think they, they contacted every, the first five altogether and just said,
hey, we like you.
You want to be in the game?
And you're not going to say no.
So you say obviously yes.
And then you sort of just begin, I think for me it was like almost two years.
Yeah.
Right.
And that first phone call, I think it was August 2019.
For a long time, I didn't actually, it felt, I didn't want a skin because, which sounds
dumb but it's because I already had a character the gingerbread man oh the Mary
Marauder that was already so integral to my brand and identity that I felt by just
releasing a skin for the sake of releasing a skin as cool as it would have been it would feel
disingenuous because it would just be like backstabbing the gingerbread man well in some
ways but it kind of just like I'm just forcing this out for the sake of it I don't know like
I already was so attached to this thing yeah yeah but then my girlfriend had the idea of
making it the old me, like the young me before,
who had the dream of, like,
my Fortnite skins are tradie.
Right.
So it was what I did beforehand.
Yeah.
So it was just kind of,
instead of trying to be some like superhero looking thing or some crazy outfit,
which they all look really cool.
Um, it was just more of like honoring the kid that always dreamed of being where I am now,
which is sounds like, that's awesome garbage, right?
That's cool.
But that's what I was, okay.
That sells skins, baby.
Yeah, let's go.
The story behind that's my one, one of my two tattoos is just my Fortnite.
Oh my God.
I'm gonna put that right there.
What's your other tattoo?
That's, oh fuck this.
I don't regret it, but it's definitely a lot.
Sounds like a lot of rubber.
Oh no.
What is it?
It just said,
Yee.
Okay, so when I was a fucking broken record.
I could not stop saying yeat.
Like you would have been, I don't know,
I'm assuming like the cold ones one comes out before this.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
But like, Chad, all he does is say,
double it and give it to the next point.
That's all he says.
He always says to me.
So I'm like, same thing.
broken record, I couldn't stop saying yeet.
It was already a dead meme.
So I made it my meme.
The fact that it was a dead meme,
I just couldn't stop saying it.
Yeah. So then I was like, it would be funny.
It's a fun word to say.
Yeah.
But I was planning on getting tattoos all up this arm
so it wasn't gonna be quiet.
It's distinguishes it in now.
But now it's just like yeet in code later.
Yeah, well, I remember Joey went free of phrase
where he just would continually dab
even when the dabbing meme.
Oh yeah.
I was dead.
Yeah.
Nothing wrong with a good dab.
Hit a bottle flip, then hit the dab.
I think one year, it was like 2016, 2017,
way after like,
the dab had already died.
I was just like, I'm gonna challenge myself to see
that if every photo I take and I upload onto the internet
is of me dabbing.
Oh God.
Yeah.
And I did it for the entire year.
If you look up any photo from like 2016, 2017, it's me dabbing.
There isn't a single normal photo of me in that.
Holding a fidget spinner or something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I should have double fidget spin to you.
I actually, I hit a fidget spinner with a sledge hammer once
and it slammed in my ankle and like, like fractured my ankle.
That's the one video I made with a fidget spinner.
You got taught a harsh lesson.
Yeah, no, it was like a metal one.
I was like, oh, I reckon I could break this with a sledge hammer.
So I hit it and just slammed in my anger.
Me versus $10,000 fidget spinner.
It probably was some cringe-ass title like that.
So you got the skin made and it came out
and what was the reaction like when you brought out?
It was funny because like a lot of people love the message behind it,
but everyone who was an Australian had no fucking clue what it was.
Well, they didn't know what a trade was.
What was the skin name?
What was it just called?
It's just called Laserbin.
I'm pretty sure, actually,
I think it's just laser bit, yeah.
But what was the message behind it?
Well, it was just pretty much just like,
well, his old self.
Yeah, it's just my old self,
because I did a video and like,
I did the lowest production value video
of anyone who announced his skin.
It was funny, I did the thumbnail like 30 minutes
before it went up.
I was sitting in Discord with Locky,
like, this looks alright, in it?
It's only like one of the biggest moments of your life.
You're throwing this shit together last minute.
I'm like, Ab, you're right?
Yeah, so I kind of did a video
on a job site that my dad's working on actually.
So it was a throwback.
I went there.
I just talked about the skin,
why I picked what I did.
So a lot of people really like that,
but they're just like,
like everyone else is all these glowy characters.
Yeah.
And look, the skin did well.
So I'm like,
people still, you know,
support of this.
We love that.
But everyone really responded well
to the message behind it, definitely.
And also another big thing for Fortnite credit
is that I don't think I've seen any other game do
is the tattoo you have.
It's that and robo.
Roblox has a star code which is also you can use code laser.
Oh my god.
But that doesn't do as well because like kids have to steal their parents credit cards for that.
Yeah.
You should not do unless you are using code laser.
You're gonna explain what the creator code is, people who might not know what it was.
It's one of the most amazing, brilliant things and I will forever be grateful to epic games for it because it basically allowed it so you had another way to support people making content.
So they made it so that if when you're buying skin,
you could enter a code and the person who's coded would get 5% of the purchase.
Right.
So it just gave.
There was so many people who had like just different forms of content,
map builders, Instagram pages, things that didn't necessarily generate lots of ad revenue
or something like that.
For me early on when I was getting really bad ad rates with Fortnite,
I was still making decent money because the views were so crazy.
But like it was massive for me.
It was such a massive thing for me.
It gave so much more security where, like, you know, ads were inconsistent.
Right.
And that's just for me.
Five percent of those skins, especially if you're getting 10 million view video.
Yeah.
It was, it was good.
It was good.
And I think it just made it like so, it was viable for so many more creators to actually make content full time or, you know, be around the game full time.
And obviously it was a brilliant decision for them because it bred so much creator loyalty.
Yeah.
And then, yeah, you see a lot of people do it now.
Yeah.
Well, starting to at least, I think.
They're still doing it now?
Yeah, no, they still do it now.
Although the codes do expire every 14 days,
which was brilliant from them,
because even I forget to put my own code in
when I buy skins.
Oh, so you have to...
You have to re-enter it every 14 days.
Oh, which is fine,
because I guess the idea is they want people
to do different codes, but...
I thought you would have had to have done it
for every purchase anyway.
No.
I didn't know you could just do one done.
The thing is,
is like a lot of people on Fortnite
were on console,
and they're lazy.
You don't want to type.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
So when I changed,
my code was originally laser beam
and then I changed it to laser
and like usage of my code went up like 50, 60%
just because people's fucking lazy.
And I get it, I'm with them, I'm with them.
That's crazy that it's that big of a difference though,
but I just add in four.
Yeah, I can't remember the exact number.
Like, but it was definitely like significant increase.
Oh wow, fuck.
Yeah, we talked to Lachlan a bit
about the, I guess, the economy of Roblox
because I know basically nothing.
The stock exchange.
The stock exchange.
She's fucking mad.
Yeah, and tell, like, yeah, they would, like, people would, I guess, like, make a fucking sweat shop or something, except the kids would, like, make maps.
What?
I guess, like, what is that about?
Like, I did not get, like, the full picture.
Can you, can you explain to me what the economy of Roblox is?
Of Roblox is?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's an interesting thing, because I only really make videos taking the piss out of the game.
Like, I'll just, like, I'll spend, like, 10 grand and pay to win and just, like,
I almost say bully kids because they can always leave the game.
So they're choosing to get destroyed.
But yeah, like all these Roblox games, not all of them,
but a lot of them are pay to win.
Right.
How so?
Well, okay.
So like, I mean, one of my favorite ones is like there's this game.
It's like slap.
It's like slap battles.
Yeah, you meant to slowly grind.
The more people you slap, the more points you get,
you get a better hand to slap people with.
It's like a plane with Lego.
It's fun.
But you can just go in and spend like 20 bucks and buy like a godhand.
And you're unkillable.
And everyone who joins the lobby, you just slap the fuck out of it.
And you just knock them off the map.
And they can't do anything about it.
And it's the funniest thing.
I'm like, this is $10.
This is cheaper than a movie.
And I'm sitting here and have the time on life.
So I guess like a lot of kids like just love buying that shit.
There's also you can buy items.
It's like there's thousands of games.
Right.
It's just like anyone can make a game, anyone can upload any game,
and then you can monetize it however you want.
Right, right, right.
And I think you get 30%.
So if someone spends $100 on your game, you get $30.
Right.
And yeah, this is...
That's a nasty cut from that.
I feel like they provide the servers, the game engine.
I've talked to developers about it because I thought the same thing,
but the developers seem, some of them at least seem quite happy.
Okay, I'm content with it.
But you can create, like, cosmetics.
You can have to sell.
A lot of them are like pet simulators and stuff where you buy,
you buy and try and try and try and,
pets like it's fucking Pokemon,
except they all just look like squares and like,
bless those guys,
they help me make a video.
So like,
the game's fun and it's just addicting.
And it's just like,
kids just love collecting these pets and upgrading their pets and have more
powerful pets.
And you know,
they spend money to get those pets.
And you come along,
you're like,
how could I best ruin this kid's day to?
Oh,
absolutely.
So my big thing is like,
I just like to spend a bunch of money to get on high scores.
Right.
So they'll be like these kids that are grinding for months.
Like you see their played time.
No.
I come in 15 minutes.
$300.
Number one.
And I'm like,
jobs done.
It's a good lesson to teach kids.
It's my most popular video on my channel
was the first episode of that.
It's like a great video idea.
It was mad.
So, yeah, like basically just
sell all the cosmetics,
whereas for Fortnite,
Fortnite sell the skins in Roblox,
you just,
like, people make the skins.
Right, right, right.
And you bite off a marketplace.
So even your character that goes from game to game,
someone's just made that skin.
So that's why you get all the mean ones.
Like, people just run around a SpongeBob
or,
Like, you know, any character you can think of, any meme at any time.
Right.
And that's just how, and they just take their cut off that.
It's all, pretty much all UGC, like user-generated content.
It's smart.
Roblox is worth over, I think, well over a billion dollars.
Sure.
I think so.
Crazy that it's worth.
I think it's the most valuable game.
It's the most played game, I'm pretty sure.
It hit, on update nights for it, which I don't know what they are.
But it gets up to 10 million concurrent players.
Yeah, it's not like, not like,
daily active like concurrent.
Yeah.
There is more people probably playing right.
One of the,
there's a game called Blocks Fruits,
which has at any given time
300,000 to 600,000 concurrent players
playing a Roblox game.
Oh my God.
About being an anime character.
I think it might be based off like One Piece,
but like a rip-off.
Block fruits, yeah.
Blocks fruits.
But it has more players concurrently
than all the Fortnite game modes.
Epic Games' biggest game
has less concurrent players
than fucking
blocks fruit.
And I'm like, that's a compliment to fucking
blocks fruits. Because like, it's a great game.
But like, what the fuck?
It works in a browser.
Yeah, it's on a phone.
Yeah, that's like two big things
that just make it like easy.
You know, it's so easy.
It's Lego pieces with anime swords.
And it's more players
than all, because Fortnite recently just showed it
so they'll show their concurrent players and all they're
trying to do a similar thing.
Where they like, there's all these Fortnite maps.
They want to do a lot of UG
generated stuff.
But, and so now they show you how many people
are in Battle Royale right now.
Yeah.
It's less than Bloxfruits.
It's fucking crazy.
How do I'm getting from this is I gotta play Blox Fruits.
I mean, if probably every 10 year old
in the world is playing Blocksfruits, that's what I get playing.
And they are making tens of millions of dollars a year.
How do they get around copyright if it's like user generated content?
Oh, yeah.
That's the golden question.
Yeah, I mean if there's this much money and this much
until the cease and desist.
I feel like the big boys, like, say, Bloxfrews,
just everything's a different name,
everything looks slightly different,
but maybe it's just got a similar energy.
But for people making like meme skins,
I just don't think they care.
Like, they just like ban them if it's like bad or something.
Right, right, right, right.
But you'll see people run around
with some funny-ass characters in Roblox.
Yeah, because I guess it sounds like a similar thing
to like, say, VR chat or something,
where all like the avatars are user-generated.
And VR chat's fucking great.
Yeah, except I don't think,
I think, right,
now it's mostly user generated and I don't know if they're making a profit or anything like that.
Well, there isn't 600,000 people in VR chat.
Yeah, that's the thing, right?
That's the thing.
VR chat doesn't block for you, man.
That's crazy.
I don't know how VR chat is also like the biggest game on YouTube right now, like firing away.
Right.
Like views.
Right.
You just never necessarily see it.
Yeah, I guess because it's if you're our age, you definitely don't.
Yeah, no, it's not for me from like a content watching thing.
necessarily. Yeah, yeah, yeah. God, I love playing it. It's so fun. I recommend everyone who has,
you know, if you ever got some disposable income for like a little bit, just go bullies.
You're teaching these kids a valuable lesson. Capitalism. Get ready for the real world, right?
Life comes at you fast. There's always someone with a fatter wallet.
100%. You got to deal with that. Yeah, good. This skill issue. What's the most fucked?
Sporn issue. It's a sporn issue. Yeah. There's one thing. There's one thing. There's one
thing I want to ask you about.
This is one of my favorite Fortnite controversies.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Well, it's not really about Fortnite,
but there was,
I mean, you pretty know all about this.
You guys might not know about this.
There was this kid who was in the Faze clan called Jarvis.
Oh.
I don't know about this.
So what he did was,
he had the,
you know,
because content was running a little dry.
He had the big brain idea of,
what if I made a video
where I downloaded an AIMBot
and showed off an aim bot in like normal, like,
oh, I've heard of this.
It was like a cultural moment.
It wasn't just a Fortnite moment.
You know, cheating was rampant,
but he went into like a normal non-ranked game,
I think, and just showed off what it was like
and what these cheaters were using.
Right.
Yeah.
And then he got a lifetime ban from Ford.
Permanent ban?
Oh, yes, I have heard of this, yeah.
And he was also, like, he was like, what, like 17?
Yeah, he was young.
Yeah, yeah.
And he made a video, like, crying.
It was very, and a lot of people felt like it was unjust.
It became the big.
meme yeah yeah I mean think about that I just want to hear your take on it
fuck a moron for hacking like it's an obvious thing you don't you don't mess with that
at all but like you said he's young he was young so it's it's such a it was such a
weird case was like obviously you were fucking idiot but yeah I think it's like a
double standard thing right it was usually because if they made the exception
for him because he's young and he is popular what about what about the other people
who actually just hack yeah yeah hacking because he needs to he was good at the game
He was hacking to show a point
or make a funny video, whatever.
But it's like, where do you draw the line
then on like other people's ban appeals
and stuff like that?
It was a tough spot for Epic to be
and I would have unbanded him, but, you know.
They could have also banned him
and had a time limit on it,
which was also another option.
But I think it's just like the usual thing
is a hardware IP ban every person.
But I would say the one argument I have against that
is usually because most people who are banned
do not have their identity attached to it.
They do are.
are able to get around it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But he was like, it's not just like,
he couldn't make Fortnite videos anymore
because he would get sued.
Yeah.
Even if he like made the video and like,
you know, didn't show the character name
or made a new account every time made a video,
he'd get sued.
Like, so he had absolutely no choice.
I think, I think, yeah,
he probably should have been unbanned,
but how did it be a fucking war?
Did they get resolved or?
No, he just moved games.
And, you know, credit to him,
he's found ways to pivot throughout the years,
but it's just a shame because he,
he was good, he was popping off.
he was going crazy.
Yeah.
It was huge news when it happened.
I remember it was,
and everyone had an opinion
because it was.
As everyone does all the time on Twitter.
It was a good story.
It was a fucking story.
Whether they should or should in this.
I've got thoughts on this.
Yeah, I mean, like,
I think I saw this on a clip, like somewhere,
on some person like explaining it.
And I mean, it seemed like he was very sorry about it,
but I think he was very, very sorry about it.
But I don't know,
it was fucking dumb thing to do.
I mean, it's kind of like, I guess in my field,
like, it would be like, hey, there's this website
that you can do to watch anime, like, illegally, by the way.
I'm just showing it off not because I promote it,
but here, let me just show it off.
Let me just show it off.
Yeah, yeah, let me just show it off
to all my viewer base.
Yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like, that's like no difference
to just like putting a mountain of cocaine
on the table being like, you see this?
This is bad.
This is deadly.
Meanwhile, you're just racking it up in the camera.
It's like, don't, this is bad.
I'm gonna show you how bad of this.
Yeah, I'm gonna show you the effects of this
and how bad it is right now.
Drugs are bad, kids.
Drugs is terrible.
It's like, officer, your honor,
I was just trying to show the kids.
I was like this, yeah, just added to like a reason like 50
of why I was glad I got into YouTubeing after the age of 18.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, I think it's like an interesting thought,
and I think of this with a lot of YouTube controversy
where people do something dumb, it's like,
there is,
feedback loop that happens on YouTube.
Yeah.
And like say,
I use Logan Paul's example.
They're not comparable situations,
but I would say large amounts of the time,
you're making content,
you get a positive response.
You go a little bit more extreme with that content
and you do something more outlandish,
you go a little bit more wild with it.
Yeah.
More of a positive response.
The more extreme the video,
the more extreme the emotions you're engaging,
more extreme the views response.
I'd say with like Logan and he's foresting,
obviously a horrible thing to do.
But up until that,
every time he did something crazy,
getting constantly, like, positive feedback,
everyone on Twitter.
From his audience, I think.
Even, honestly, in general, I would say at the time,
he was in YouTube rewind.
He was the face of YouTube at the time.
He was getting four, 500 million views a month.
I'm not saying whether he was doing the right thing all the time.
I feel like there was a good chunk of people on the internet
who were not a fan there even before that.
I think that was like the, yes, he finally did.
It was like two opposite into the spectrum for sure.
But I'd say even the bubble he was in.
I was saying, like, well, he could,
be a bad person anyway. I'm just saying that like for that thing he was constantly going crazy
getting more good results from it. I don't think he started out saying this is a great idea.
This is where I want to end up. And obviously it's very different to the Java situation,
but I would say in Fortnite of the time, like, people who are doing videos of like catching a hack
or something like that, you're getting all these positive responses that makes it so you don't
fully consider all the potential outcomes for what you're actually creating.
Especially like it's always interesting to see when a video.
gets posted or when, you know, your own kind of content
and your kind of character gets judged
to an audience that's outside of your established audience as well.
Because you sometimes you don't,
sometimes you get kind of a reality check,
especially with someone like Logan Paul,
or someone on that size where you get the feedback
that you don't normally expect, you know,
and you get-
And it can be healthy, obviously, like-
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, there was also another video
that came out not too long ago
that was kind of similar,
but I guess very different in delivery and purpose.
There was a guy who did a video about Tarkov
and cheating in Tarkov.
And in the video, he downloaded an AIMBot.
And he was trying to find other people
who were also using an AIMBot.
And it was really kind of compelling
because there was those moments
where the two AIMBot dudes
could see each other through walls and stuff
where they were like noticing each other
and giving each other sign.
And they'd be like, don't shoot me, I'm also AIMBot.
Go and shoot someone else.
We're friends.
Yeah, yeah.
And he was just kind of like documenting.
It was really good.
video and it kind of threw that community into like uproar because they were like what the
fuck yeah yeah I don't I see like yeah I think there's been so many videos I've scrapped
because I'm like oh epic might not like this or this game dev might not like it really
I guess that's also a way where the creator code or maybe the skin has a little bit of power
I would say I would say for sure but I think this just you know how far can I push it before I get
like in trouble off epic or something you know we did this video where we played old versions of
that people sort of like re-upload and remade.
And you're like we worked out after a while.
You're fine to do it as long as you don't do the multiplayer one or you don't use
skins because I don't want it to be like people can play as other Fortnite where they're
not playing skins and stuff like that.
So it ended up being fine, but it was like there's a line here and we're here.
Have you ever been contacted or been told like?
Epic games told me to take videos down here.
Oh shit.
I was doing like a glitch or some shit and they'd be like, yeah, no, fuck that off.
And I was like, look, I love you.
Whatever you want.
Fair enough, because, like, it was actually something they just couldn't fix for a while.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it was, like, game breaking.
What kind of?
So it was, I think at the time, you could fly a helicopter or something well above the height barrier.
So you could just get a bunch of meds at the start of the game and just sit up there and just heal without anyone.
Like, no other play could even see you.
Right, right.
You just sit up there.
You just win every game.
Are you uploaded the video doing that?
Yeah, yeah.
Well, because it was like,
Early on, it was like a rat race, bro.
Yeah, if you did do it.
You had to get this video out.
Yeah, I used to sleep like two or three hours a night,
edit my own video, like, I try and like sometimes weep
as I'm going to sleep, but I had no moisture in my eyes, I couldn't cry.
It was a fucking grind because you were in a constant hustle
to get that stuff out.
I didn't have time to think of like, oh, is epic gonna like this glitch?
Yeah.
I mean, they like, fix your bugs, my problem.
But, you know, they ask nicely, I'm like, fair enough,
that's reasonable.
Like, they explain why.
I'm like, I'm waiting for the laser beam apology video
in like two years.
Sorry.
I didn't mean it.
Sorry for hacking your game, bro.
But yeah, I mean, like,
they didn't ban me there.
But I was constantly scared sometimes they would.
Do you play other games outside of the games
you make content around?
Rooscape.
I still play a little bit of Roomscape.
I had a row phase at the start of this year.
Oh, no.
End of last year, I would should say.
Well, Classic came out.
Dragon Flight came out, the new expansion.
I did do classic Burning Crusade for a bit.
I just don't like other people,
so I can't raid.
Well, I get socially anxious.
So I don't like...
Unless they're children, right?
Unless I could just...
If I could just pay money to be better than they're amazing.
But like...
Saudi Prince win their game.
You know, I ain't beaten like Illadden with like a couple V-bucks or something.
You know, I can't just pay some money.
So yeah, like, raiding, like, intimidated me so I didn't keep playing.
What else do I play?
I play.
I play a little sports games.
Play a lot of Crusader Kings.
like the strategy games
I love that shit
been playing super auto pets a lot lately
shout out mobile games
what else do I play?
Honestly like it's either
hardcore strategy games
I love strategy games
or I'm quite literally
just playing a sports game or some kind
probably here FIFA
The good old days man
Yeah it's really hard to make videos
on strategy games though
It's really tough
But some people do make some great crusader
There's another Aussie who does
And he does like fact
Torio videos.
I haven't seen that, unfortunately.
Sounds like I'm missing out.
And they're really good,
because Factoria is probably the most boring
fucking game in the world to watch someone play.
But some people can make shit so compelling.
Yeah, they just make it into a good narrative
and it just works.
I forgot the guy's name, he's very funny.
He just like just cause speed runs,
but when I say speed runs are like 70 hour runs.
Fucking hell.
In one go.
Insane humans, yeah.
Insane humans.
Actually, like, just another level of insanity.
You mentioned earlier as well that, you know,
when you started out, maybe you do now,
You had imposter syndrome, but obviously right now
you're at like such a high.
It's worse then, right?
High level, like is it, yeah,
I mean, how does that come into effect
with slowing down, making content,
or do you second guess yourself a lot more
when I'm blah, I think that is,
I think when you're in a rhythm,
it's easy to just keep going.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and you don't think,
like you still have imposter syndrome,
but like you don't,
you still just in a rhythm.
Yeah, yeah.
When you sort of take,
because a bunch of shit happened
in my life in 2021, that was sort of the reason
to take a step back.
Yeah, yeah.
Shit that was outside of my control,
unfortunately, but, you know,
Life's fine now, but it sort of broke that rhythm a little bit.
And all of a sudden, when you're out of that rhythm,
you start overthinking videos a little bit and you're like...
I know what you mean.
I know, yeah.
And then you get like an eight out of ten or nine out of ten.
Maybe I'm not as good as I thought.
I don't know.
This is crazy.
And it also just comes down to like a lot of shit's quite boring in gaming right now.
I would say, unfortunately, like there's nothing that really makes me too enthusiastic.
So I feel like if I'm not fully believing in the video,
it's not worth it.
Even though people just like saying, you have fun.
Just do something.
Well, it sucks, right?
Because you kind of get that, you kind of get like a false allerman
because sometimes you get some videos that just feels so right
and it works perfectly.
And then you're like, damn,
but this other video just doesn't feel like that.
And it's like, well, that's what having a job is.
Yeah, yeah.
Not relying on that high of getting everything perfect.
It's having to force yourself when the idea is maybe not as good as it could be
to either make it better or just power through and make it decent.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But is that not like, I would say,
some of the massive privilege that comes with like,
perhaps you have some previous success.
Oh, absolutely.
And there isn't that like do or die.
Like when I was leaving the job side,
it's like,
it's this or I'm,
have fucking no idea what I'm doing with this.
Right, yeah.
You are just whatever it takes.
Whereas now you have choices.
I could,
I can go be in other people's videos.
I could do this.
I could like.
Not upload a video.
I could honestly not upload,
but I still love it.
I'm still obsessed with it.
So it's like you don't have to do stuff
you don't necessarily want to do,
which is a massive privilege,
but it does leave to that like,
you know, paralysis, like decision paralysis
and something else too.
Especially when you start doubting yourself with like,
am I as good as I used to be?
Like, well, people don't like me anymore.
Like, but, yeah.
Have you ever thought about doing things outside of just like,
you know, gaming videos like,
because obviously you do like a lot of challenges with games right now.
But you definitely have like the resources to do like wild and wacky challenges in real life.
Yeah, like, like, like, IRL stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like my ignorance, unfortunately coming into this, like,
I, I,
I knew a lot of you guys from like,
I was saying to Alex,
I'm like,
oh,
they're the anime guys,
right?
And that's like my ignorance.
I apologize.
But like he was,
you're not wrong.
You're not wrong.
Like there's a lot of like origins there,
but you've like sort of expanded into other things.
Yeah.
I think definitely like I mean,
I've done pretty much everything that can be done like sitting on your computer.
Yeah.
Any sort of React stuff,
stream and gaming,
whatever it is.
And like I said,
when I was doing real world stuff was very more vlog style.
Yeah.
But I think it is definitely like a,
goal of mine this year, especially I've done a lot of stuff with the sidemen who do a lot of,
like, all they do is, yeah, that's crazy.
Yeah, all they do is the real world stuff.
And I think it's just, it's just fun.
I'm like, I don't really care.
Like, I've been there, done that when it comes to getting views.
It's not really about that, I suppose.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It'd just be cool.
I think it'd be cool little thing to see.
So I'm definitely trying, but we'll see.
Yeah, because I feel like they're, I don't know, there's a feel.
I feel like you would be so entertaining to do, to see you guys just like, see you
doing challenges, IRL instead of just,
maybe instead of bullying kids.
It's funny though.
It's got, bullying kids IRL.
Bullying kids IRA.
Oh, I had an idea.
I'm not gonna do it though.
It was a YouTube short because I didn't know how to
thumbnail and Tyler, but it's like,
someone kills me in Fortnite shop at the house.
I go, hey, you wanna fucking go?
And statistically, they're probably like 15.
So I can probably like, let's box a match.
Slap.
No, because the whole idea was like,
challenge him to a fight IRL.
They beat me in Fortnite.
I'm dog shit at Fortnite, but I'm like, fight me IR.
There's also a chance I show up.
It's a big bikey or something like that.
Kills me.
Which would be equally entertaining.
Nah, not for me.
Not for me, though.
Do you think you're going to be a good dad?
Oh, I'm an amazing uncle, so I think I'll be a great dad.
Because they're on my team.
You're going to teach him hard lessons right away, I think out of the gate.
I don't know, because, like, I think I'll spoil them.
They'll be, they'll be the ones bullying the other kids.
Yeah, you just teach them to like, this is how you put.
If your kid sucked at the video game,
you're like, no, we can't have this.
We gotta fucking pay to win right now.
Oh, yeah, no, so I have my nephew.
As part of my most recent Roblox video, I did,
I gave him $10,000 worth of Roblox.
He's 10, by the way.
Oh, I don't know.
Okay, I'm not allowed to say it.
I'm allowed to say this, because dad might get mad at me,
but anyway, it's funny.
He spent it all within a day.
Because he just didn't know what the fuck is.
He had no concept of what it was actually.
Well, like money, what?
Well, because in Roeblood.
Broblocks like some guy just convinces you to buy some item that's actually worth like 50 Robux for like 50,000 or something.
Yeah. And I think he might have just wasted on one one or two games or something and yeah, you know, it was gone in the day. So I'd probably do that. I'd probably just be. That's insane. I can't help it. They're just like, you feel like you want to give him a hundred now and see how long it takes. Yeah. It was kind of funny because it was for the video. So I really care. Yeah. But like obviously he got a little bit of trouble. He was supposed to share it with his sister. But he did it.
Oh. Oh. Oh. That's the main thing he got in trouble with.
He's got another 10K, right?
Unfortunately, if I had some left, but it's really hard to buy that many robots.
Nothing wrong with spending 10,000.
The fact you didn't share, though?
Yeah, I mean, I just don't know how it went that fast.
He messaged me because he has a phone now.
So he messaged me, he's like, Uncle Lenny, what, can I spend these robucks after I sent it to him?
He's like, yeah, you can spend it.
I was like, just go really slow.
Spend it over like a two months or something like that.
Have fun.
Enjoy yourself, you know.
Buy the things in your favorite games.
Pay to win, do that stuff.
That's fine.
Yeah.
It was gone on the day.
Did he buy anything substantial?
Fuck no.
Like he just got.
His character, I checked his account
it's got nothing interesting on it.
Where did it go?
What do you, like someone's probably just messing
like, oh, yeah, now buy this like hat
for like a million or some shit.
Oh my God.
He could have bought one of those like items
on the exchange and then he could have been like,
right, uncle I've managed to turn the 10,000 and 15.
He could be investing.
No, I'm a mogul of Roblox.
I am.
That's how all the richest Roblox, like,
people like made that money.
Yeah.
Yeah.
like traded collectibles.
Either that or they make the games themselves.
But yeah, no, I'll be, I'll be probably spoiling them.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I know, you should teach him a lesson in like investment.
I don't know why, but the-
Yeah, send him bankrupt.
I wish my uncle gave me an investment lesson.
You gotta go through bankruptcy court now.
You're actually broke, you're going to wait seven years
to be able to have to be a roadblocks bankruptcy, man.
It's like, you go into the court and some ten years like,
what is your case?
There's money tycoon.
Yeah, God.
Some of my favorite real world videos I did with like with him like he's an audience favorite
Yeah, my nephew.
God like I'll get back to that like just take him on adventures and yeah
Yeah, because I this game this is off topic now but like kind of like the the one scene
The one and only scene that stands out to be the most in fucking Yu-gio.
Do you remember like the original Yu-Gio anime? Yeah, there's a scene where this is how I basically
learn about stocks basically
I know the scene you're talking about. Yeah.
Do you know what I'm talking about?
I'm glad we're talking about anime, though.
I've got opinions, but...
Okay, okay, we'll get into anime.
It's, uh, so it's like Seta Khyber's, like, backstory, I think.
And he has like an adopted dad who is like, I will adopt you,
but I'm going to give you $1 million.
And, uh, if you can turn this into $10 million, I will adopt you.
And that's...
Shit, games a game, man.
Yeah.
And, uh, basically, Soto Kiber explains basically, like, uh, how stocks work and company.
via like Yu-Gi-Oh cards being like,
I have 100 cards in front of me right now.
What if I just buy 51% of this company
represented by 51% of 51-U-Gi-O cards
and I force them to give them $10 million.
That's how stocks work.
Oh my God.
What if we do that with Roblox?
I watch Hugo on Cheese TV as a kid or whatever,
but I never remember none of that.
Like, I feel like as a kid,
like I watched Hugo,
but I never in took anything
it actually happened.
No, I don't know.
I mean, because also you, did you play Yu-Gi-o as well as a kid?
I had the cards, but I-
pissed me off at the TV show.
None of the cards worked the fucking same as they did as the game.
Yeah, no.
The TV show broke rules.
They would just change the cards.
And I annoyed me like, really like playing it.
Yeah, I was like, this is bullshit.
Curi-bo fucking sucks.
Why does he keep using it?
My favorite thing about like,
and I think it was the same with like Pokemon cards and shit,
is you just, like, anyone who had a color printer
was just printing off like these Yu-Gi-Gi-a cards.
Right, they're done in the real.
Joey said the, it's like,
you get to my school, he did that.
My parents like refused by me Yu-Gio cards.
There was times where we had like some money as a kid
and then times where we didn't.
And the time where you go cards were around,
we had like nothing.
So like my mom's like, yeah, you can't have any.
So I had to lie to kids, oh yeah,
I got grandpa's deck at home or so I'm not gonna bring it into like.
That's literally the Yu-Gi-o plot.
I've got grandpa's deck.
There's like, like, where's your cards, bro?
What are you doing?
Same as Bay Blades.
I didn't have a bay blade for like,
oh my, Mike, because my dad worked
at a printing company.
So like, we had like the best printer
So I forced my dad to print out all the Exodia cards.
Yeah, the Exodias, bro.
Bring that to school and they'd be like,
whoa, he's got all the Exodias, bro.
Being nine was such a great time.
One time my friends had cards, I really, really wanted.
And I was like, fuck, okay, I'll try it.
What do you want for it?
And he gave a list of cards he wanted for all,
I think it was the elemental heroes or something.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that was the cards.
And so I met up with him.
I gave him the cards.
He gave me the cards.
And I'm looking at him, and the top one's fine.
It's legit.
And as I'm like moving these cards around,
all the names are just in Chinese.
But not not not not Chinese,
they're in like in like Roman,
Roman alphabet Chinese.
So it's like,
it's Chinese spelled out phonetically in English.
That's pretty fun.
And I was like,
that's pretty fun.
What the fuck is this?
What is?
That's a record.
And I was like, what, what the hell?
I can't read this shit.
What cards did you give me?
And they were like kind of discolored.
as well. You fucked me, giving my cards back right now.
And I got my mom to fucking scream at her mom,
to give me the cards back because you fucking scam me.
I saw my dad'll beat up your dad.
I summoned Bing Chilling drag.
It's just like, what the fuck?
Did you go through a Pokemon card phase or anything like that?
Yeah, I definitely have Pokemon cards.
I never like played the card games themselves though.
I don't think anyone, yeah.
I was like not since I've been an adult though.
Like I know Lockhees like loves his
Pokemon cards, but...
Oh, and all of YouTube got obsessed with...
Oh, yeah, massively.
Gambling for Pokemon cards.
It was like the most sanitized form of gambling ever.
Yeah.
I mean, it was some good investments for some people.
Nah, I never, like, got super into, like, as an adult.
Like, I don't, I have no...
Maybe I had some sick cards as a kid, but...
Too busy on RuneScape, I don't know.
Yeah.
Too busy on Rooscape.
The real thing doesn't matter.
But I wish, like, I've thought about going, because I,
the reason I was bringing up the whole anime thing.
Right, right, right.
It's because I watched my first anime recently.
properly. I watched Dragonball Z, Pokemon,
you girls, kid on cheese TV
on the morning cartoons, you know?
Yeah. But I never actually like watched them
because I was an idiot and I was a moron.
But I watched my first anime and I was very proud of myself.
Alex behind the camera has been trying to convince me
for a very long time. Watch attack on Titan.
Nice. Yeah.
He's in Fortnite.
Captain Levi is
the goat. He's the goat.
And I was just like, yeah, I just wanted to share that.
Watch my first anime. So thank you.
Hell yeah.
How did you feel?
I know, it was sick.
I think even still,
because I watched a subtitled version,
that's what I told was the most authentic way.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, weirded my girlfriend out a little bit
because there's a lot of grunting and stuff.
Like, like, like, like, does they delay?
It's just like, none.
I thought that was a meme, bro,
but it's actually a word.
I didn't know that.
It's my ignorance, I just ignorant, right?
It means what?
It's almost as if it's existing.
Yeah, I'm really.
I slowly figured out that when they were saying Nani,
like what was showing up.
But that was cool, that was a cool thing for me to skip it.
I thought it was just a meme.
What from like the Omaiwa Moshindu?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was just like everyone would edit into their videos,
like, Nani.
I got you, oh my God.
But it's just like there's so much,
like even in Attack on Tire, not so much the latest seasons,
but there's still so much wasted time, I think, in anime.
And so there is an old TV.
A Fortnite brain, I think.
Oh yeah, no, I'm on TikTok like.
I need a TikTok brain, man.
How is time wasted in it?
Explain.
They just spent a lot of time just like repeating the same shit
or like just talking about stuff
that I don't think matters,
but maybe it's good for it world building
or some shit, but I'm like, get to the-
Are you caught up on the second time?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't read it though.
Alex knows what happens.
Yeah, was it, was a lot of it confusing as well
because the Taekontite is a weird story.
No, I got it from start.
All right, okay.
No, no, I mean, it was obviously
just like keeps throwing a shit out you.
Yeah, it's like all of a sudden,
Everything he thought was real, fucking wrong.
Everything thought it was real wrong.
It just keeps changing the game on you,
which I thought was really cool.
Yeah.
Like it just kept changing the scope.
It was getting bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger.
Well, I think Attack and Titan is probably, like,
in my opinion, arguably the best starter anime.
Oh, yeah.
I think from what I've heard,
it was a great one from your start in.
Attackman Titans is way better than Death No.
In terms of, like,
that was the thing I was going to ask is like,
what should you watch?
What's next?
I've been told Demon Slayer.
but I want to honestly like get a top five of what I should do next
in terms of starter animate chainsaw man
yeah actually actually before before we get into this
what kind of like TV shows do you like or movies
I'm a very broad spectrum person in that regard
I don't think I have any the only thing I don't like is horror
okay I'm a massive coward scariest movie I ever watch was scary movie one
you know it's a comedy right yeah that's fucking bad
I was like six or seven when I first watched it
and I thought the scream mask was from that originally.
I thought that too, yeah.
Oh, okay.
And like that scene was like a dick
that goes through someone's ear or some shit.
Oh yeah.
No, it's terrifying.
That was terrifying.
Oh yeah, yeah.
So yeah, I don't like horror.
Otherwise, pretty open to anything.
Well, luckily anime isn't that great
at the horror genre.
I mean, attack on Titan gets pretty fucking wild.
That's probably like,
probably more gory than horror.
Yeah, that's a bit more violent gory than horror.
But yeah.
anime generally doesn't do horror well,
so that's a good thing for you.
It does it by accident well.
Yeah, okay.
There's a lot of things that are horrific, but not horror.
Actually, there are some are pretty, like,
scary scenes in Attack on Titan, like,
and intentionally.
God, I just remember, like, remembering the first scene,
remembering seeing that first Titan.
Oh yeah.
Can we, I mean, I don't know, you'll have to, like, talk about it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's talk about it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Horrifying.
Yeah.
I had no context of what this show was about to look.
Everyone's just like, watch attack on Titan.
I'm like, okay.
I'm like, okay, anime can't be that metal, right?
It can't be that hardcore.
It is, yeah.
I thought maybe you'd see like sword fighting,
like gory in that sense.
This man, like you're witnessing childhood trauma.
Like actual real trauma.
Credit to the people that are animated and stuff
because it's like you see like lifelong damage
being imprinted in this kid
as his mother is slowly,
dramatically chomped in half.
And then it turns out,
It's his fucking stepmom that did it or whatever it was.
Yeah, it's like his father's previous wife or some shit.
It's like, what the fuck?
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, I just, I remember the first time seeing, like,
because the Tackle and Titan fucking blew up when it, uh, first aired from episode one.
And just seeing that first, like, smiling Titan, like the one that he was
like, nightmare fuel, you know?
Yeah.
Especially if you see as a kid.
Also the, like, the muscles on the butt cheeks of the colossal time.
That was trauma.
You saw every fiber in that gluteous maximus.
He's done some squats, right?
Yeah, 100%.
Is it traumatizing?
Maybe it was a different kind of feeling.
I think you'd like Death Note.
I think Death Note you'd like a lot.
That's a classic.
Everyone knows that.
Alex, extract these for me please.
It's remind you later.
I feel Death Note is like not,
I wouldn't say it's like the best gateway anime
because unlike a tag on time that's like,
especially season one where it's like very easy to understand,
very easy to get to because there's a lot of like high intense action
that anyone can get into.
DeathNode is a lot more like,
that's just they're right in there
and like, someone's gonna die.
It's a lot more like mental and like psychological battles
rather than like actual physical fights,
which I think is like, you know.
No, I think, I think, death note is great.
Like the only, the most physical they get in Death Node
is when Ellen Light play tennis.
Yeah.
I still think it's a good starter anime.
Okay, it is, but it's a different flavor.
Yeah. Right, like it's, I feel it's a different side of anime
that, you know, it very much exists and it's still great.
What are you all?
not like Attack on Titan.
Off the top of you head,
what are some of your favorite movies?
Monty Python,
Holy Grail.
Good choice.
Clasher.
Free guy,
because I'm in it.
I don't know.
See,
I consume so much stuff,
but like,
fuck,
if I,
everywhere,
everything all at once,
banger.
That was a great movie.
Oh, that's a good movie.
Oh,
I had no idea
what that movie was before I saw it.
Yeah.
We went through,
like,
some early screening thing for it.
Bleu me away.
Um,
yeah,
I don't know,
I don't know if I have,
like,
any sort of genre
or any type of thing
that like I'm very like average-ass human being
in that regard where I just...
You'd love death, no.
Okay.
Full-Malachmus Brotherhood is pretty good.
It's very anime.
I think the first, yeah,
the first anime I heard of that like I knew people were watching years ago
was Full Metal Alchem or something.
That's like, I think it's been rated by anime fans
like the best anime.
Okay.
I'm not watching something that's got more than like 100 episodes or so.
Like if it's like one of those like Nerroo...
Is it one piece has got like a thousand episodes.
Yeah, one piece's got a thousand episodes.
Not doing that.
Yeah, yeah.
That's a big commitment.
Full Mental Alchemist brother is 70.
That's doable.
That's fun.
Yeah.
I say chainsaw man would be pretty good
if you liked Attack on Time
because that's only 12 episodes.
Yeah, that's very long.
It's very, 12.
Yeah, it's very horny.
It's very horny.
It's very horny.
A lot of anime is very horny.
There's already so much grunting.
How much more horny can be?
You haven't seen the half of it.
I'm gonna be real.
Like my girlfriend thought I was watching something.
Like, she was like walking and like,
what is happening?
You're in the living room, brother.
The windows are open.
There was an anime that was like a guy
who just reviewed brothels in another universe.
That was like an anime.
What's that one called?
Oh,
Interspecies reviewers.
Yeah, don't watch that one of your girlfriend in the...
I was gonna say, okay, what point does it go from anime to hentai?
Well, that's...
What is the line?
What is the line?
That's a very philosophical question.
Because there's gotta be some like R-18 anime
that like maybe show tities or something.
Yeah, I love.
Oh yeah, yeah.
I mean, the one where they review brothels,
there's literally just a sex scene in it
where one of them sleep with one of the girls
in the brothel.
And it's just, it's just,
It's all there, it's fully present.
And it goes on for like five minutes or something.
So we don't actually know what the line
between hentai.
That's like an interesting thought.
I feel like I've never had it till now
but pushing that line further and further further further.
To the point where it's like, oh, it's,
I don't even know what it is anymore.
There's a little fuck.
Tenticle or no tentacle?
Is that the line for?
Well, see, because like this.
That's, I don't know anything.
I'm ignorant.
Is that just a meme?
I have no idea.
No, no, because there's a lot of anime
and a lot of hentai that uses tentacles,
but like it's the difference between like,
how it is, I guess, utilized.
Okay, right?
Cause it's like, there's a lot of like,
very innocent scenes that use tentacles,
but like it's the implication of,
it might be construed as something sexual,
but it's not adherently sexual.
Cause that's, that's my ignorance to,
unfortunately, this like whole sort of like,
I guess community is like, I've never really partook,
so I only see the memes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, it definitely exists, there's a lot of it.
I've got, I've got some stuff to watch now.
You should watch Jojo's Bizarre Adventure as well.
You've heard of that one?
No.
Oh, you probably like that.
You like Jojo's.
I'm sorry.
It's like a whole world that I've just,
I was always one of those things
I never wanted to give up to my friends.
That like, they always asked me to watch anime.
I was like, this is one of those things
where I'm putting a line in the sand.
Just because like, fuck you, you're asking too much.
I'm not watching your hands on.
It's like a personality trait.
I don't watch anime.
You're like him.
Have you watched Arcane?
I don't know what that is.
Oh, you know what the fuck that is.
Thank you.
Arcane, it was the League of Legends.
Oh, fucking League of Legends, God.
You don't like Lee of Legends.
I never play League Legends.
I play one game of Dode and I was like,
This shit's stupid.
Well, yeah, I agree.
Yeah.
But what's the difference?
They're movers.
Big difference, big difference.
Yeah, no, but I'm still, I'm very much in the same, like, feel as you know,
where it's like, if people around me are continuously, like, shoving it down my throat,
being like, watch it, watch it, it just makes me not want to watch it.
Yeah, yeah, no, definitely.
I hate it.
But I look, after watching Attack on Titan, I got good, I watched that in, like, the space of, like, four or five days or something.
So I just went through it all.
That was a lot of episodes.
That's like, I was doing it.
I was grinding, bro.
It was definitely within a week, man.
I guarantee you.
Yeah, I actually do recommend Death Note
for like, you won't go to bed.
I'm excited.
For like the starter anime, chainsaw Man.
Chainsaw Man's only 12 episodes, that's an easy one.
Oh yeah, you'll fly by that.
I think the reason why Death Note
such a good start anime is because right out of the gate,
it's just fucking intense.
No, like you get hooked within the first two episodes.
That's always, that's important.
I don't like shit takes me like a whole season
or something to get it.
Yeah, that's kind of like, yeah,
they'll fix the fucking tick-top.
So you might have mentioned it in there,
but what's your favorite anime?
Is this like a debate?
debatable topic that's like, gets heated here.
Not really, just because we watch so many
that like my favorite anime changes all the fucking time.
That's fair, I like that mentality.
You know, it's kind of like,
well, asking what your favorite game is
and I'm like, well, I have-
You can say some of your favorites.
That's fair, that's fair.
Or is it in that watch list already?
Yeah, it was in the brothel one.
Hey, there's not a safe place here, man.
They can edit it out, don't worry.
I mean, I'd say like the one that I usually say to,
anyone who asks that question is probably like fully coolly.
Because that's like, that's also a good show, I think, to watch more because it's like
it's, it's wild as hell and it's only six episodes and it is just intense from start to finish,
but something completely unique as well.
I like that.
Yeah.
I feel like that was the one thing, even just on attack on Titan, it felt like a story that they
aren't going to tell in some other sort of medium.
Yeah.
Like they just, you can't make that.
I think they did try to make a live action attack.
Oh yeah.
I heard it.
I saw someone's like a clip about TikTok,
someone saying this is the worst thing ever.
Fuck, I love Hunter Hunter Hunter Hunter.
Hunter is great.
Ping pong the animation is great.
I got a pitch.
I don't recommend you watch this immediately.
Okay, okay.
But maybe, maybe.
Okay, I mean, I'm excited now.
No, don't say it.
Oh, this has got me more excited.
What's going on in?
So fate.
Fate.
Don't.
I got my Crunchyroll subscription.
I can watch all this stuff.
Yeah, specifically Fate Zero.
Okay.
So, so Battle Royale.
So.
It is.
Tell me it is not a battle.
It's 100% of battle royale.
I'm a guy from the battle royale.
It is,
it is a battle royale anime
where a bunch of
wizards and mages
they summon like a legendary
hero from history
to fight for them.
That's sick.
So I love that.
Like, got like Genghis Khan or like.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, you know, you use the people summon
like King Arthur.
That's fucking man.
But King Arthur is an anime wifu in this one.
Yeah.
Anime wife.
Yeah.
King Arthur is a girl.
Yeah.
King Arthur, Alexander the Great.
That's the first book ever read was about Alexander the Great.
So they all find each other.
So a bunch of like legendary heroes from history and they just fucking battle it out.
And it's a mix between like action and just mind games as well.
Because everyone's like playing chess with each other trying to like, you know, trying to knock each other out.
We just sounds so much better than it is.
Yeah.
No, okay.
Now that sounds fucking awesome.
No, to be fair, Fate Zero is fucking fantastic.
It is good show, yeah, yeah.
The reason why I was screaming no is because the problem is
is that after you watch Fate Zero,
there's a whole other bunch of series and spin-offs,
and it becomes one of the most complicated
fictional universes.
Let's just leave it there.
You watch Fate Zero and just leave it at that.
You can, yeah, yeah, for sure.
Would I want to after watching?
That's the problem.
If you get too into it, then you'll be like,
well, what else is there?
Fate stay, no, it's pretty good.
Yeah, I'd say, well, yeah.
I'd say like, if you watch
If you just watch Phase Zero and Unlimited Blade Works,
that's, you can probably understand like 90% of the wall.
Yeah, unlimited Played Works is good.
Yeah.
But like if you want to feel the remaining 10%,
then you have to watch like all these other like spin-off shows
and sequels and pre-cels and it gets way too-
There's a lot of really dark shows.
You might, I don't know, do you like more serious shows?
Um, probably not really.
I don't like to feel things.
I like to go main, uh, like to go brain dead
and just be like, damn, that's fucking sick.
Yeah.
Dude, it is unreal.
That stuff is actually so true, though.
Like, I will watch something so much more
if there's a guy jumping through a Minecraft maze.
The fact that, like, podcast clips are so boring now
that, like, you have to have a fucking subway surf a thing at the bottom
just otherwise I can't watch it.
That's kind of weird.
It's 15 seconds of my life, but I need something else to entertain me the same time.
Yeah, wouldn't that become, like, a meta for, like, TikToks?
I don't know, but I did, um, it was weird.
I did a video and someone re-uploaded the entire thing to TikTok,
which I don't care about, fuck it.
Yeah, yeah.
but they put Rocket League highlights below it
and it got 20 million views on TikTok.
Jesus. More than it got on YouTube
with just Rocket League clips below it.
That's so weird.
That's a fucking scare.
I saw this one YouTube shore and it was just like a random podcast clip
or something that I didn't really give a shit about.
But what was so distracting was there was this like mobile game
being played at the bottom where you had to collect coins
or something.
Subway Surfer, yeah.
Was it Subway Surfer?
It was like the shittest player of all the time.
He kept missing every fucking gem.
And I was like, there's-
That's how you got you engaged.
That's the, I was like fucking,
and I went to like the comments
and everyone was just like, I cannot stop.
Like, I cannot not notice how shit this person is
at the game.
Dude, that worked.
He turned a boring-ass video into a banger.
That's fucked up.
Where does it end though?
Like, where does that stop?
How many layers are they gonna get to before?
She's gonna be like,
Duh!
And like, everything with like,
screaming at you like bells going off the whole time.
It's so weird because whenever I see like that video
where it's just like a podcast or a clip by itself
just isn't enough anymore.
We need something to like distract the brain.
Yeah, it's like how they had had to add
flashy subtitles to everything,
which slowly began Japanese TV.
Yeah.
Which means flashy subtitles.
You mean like...
Well, before when you had clips to a podcast,
they wouldn't fucking subtitle
every goddamn word they say.
Yeah.
But now it's like every single...
Every word is just flashed on the screen.
They change colors for me speaking.
There's like little icons that pop up.
There's like,
That's literally what we do.
Yeah.
We do that for trash days.
We're feeling all secrets on how to get views right here.
I feel like this one we're just kind of like hacking the brain or something.
Well yeah, because like there is a standard for subtitles already built.
Yeah.
It's actually like the most easy to read and legible.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And obviously YouTube just throws it out the window because you're like, well that's not fucking bastard now.
No, no, no, no.
Do one more at a time.
Pop up, blue, animation, go.
I find interesting because I know Mr. Beast uses different subtitles for TikTok.
as he does on YouTube.
It's like different energies
on different platform.
Like TikTok kind of rejects
the hyperproduced
like way that YouTube shorts work.
They're very much like condensed
original YouTube video.
I say original.
But like actual trying to tell some story or whatever.
And it's a little bit more manufactured.
It's a little bit more of like a set narrative,
set thing whereas TikTok is meant to be more organic.
It's people do it in each other.
It's people talking to a camera.
You don't really see that as much on YouTube shorts.
But to literally to the level of like,
psychologically changing the text just so it comes off
with a different like trying less hard.
That's like fucking nuts.
Because it obviously makes a big difference
otherwise you wouldn't do it.
Yeah, yeah.
This is the new age.
Analyze this TikTok video.
Why is the subtitle this color?
But genuinely it's crazy.
Yeah, we're getting to that point where
everyone is making micro adjustments
to try and find the perfect thing to hack your brain.
Yeah.
Especially on YouTube shorts because everyone's making the same video.
Yeah.
Everyone's just doing the same, like, just screaming at you.
A lot of it's fake.
A lot of it's just complete, just garbage.
But it just hooks you.
Even if you, I watch a YouTube short all the way through.
I'm like, I hated that.
Why did I watch that?
That was awful, but I gave them watch time.
Do you also get recommended, like, YouTube shorts that have, like, no views?
And it's just like a kid.
Oh, yeah.
Like, this is my wall.
You see that on TikTok all the time, yeah, for sure.
I'm like, what the fuck is?
Why are you recommending the shit to me?
I guess they've got to give everyone a chance, right?
Yeah, it's weird because I feel.
like that's the algorithm trying to do something.
But like normally you can tell within,
I feel like with like YouTube shorts,
sorry?
Why am I the fucking test dummy for people?
I know, I feel like everyone's the test dummy.
I mean, video has to have zero views at one point, right?
That's true.
But yeah, I feel like you can tell when a video's not,
like, I can like subconsciously tell within like,
I say like 0.5 seconds.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
When like a video is being recommended to me
that has no views at all.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
You can just tell.
It's just the TikTok rather than just gonna be like,
I know you liked all these videos, but what about this?
It's a man on the left field.
Yeah.
It's something completely different.
Have you been recommended a lot of like,
just out of context, like scenes from movies and TV shows?
Yeah, man, I can't fucking watch them.
Like every family guy episode, every South Park episode,
so on TikTok.
I think I've rewatched the entire John Rick trilogy
through clips out of order.
That's the same thing.
You rewatch the same thing.
I love it.
Yeah.
The amount of times I've watched the same.
podcast clips of like Theo Vons just saying something stupid just because like they'll just send me the
same one every time. Yeah, I think I've seen, I've never seen Piki Blinders, but I feel like I could
recite basically every major thing that happens. Yeah, I feel like I could perfectly replicate a Joe
Rogan episode. Just based off weird fucking clips with his guests where they go like, in the Amazon
forest, there's a tribe. The pyramid. Yeah. It's the spiritual energy of the river. It actually makes
them gigacats. And it's just like, what am I listening to? Have you seen the, the, the, the, the, the
fake slash AI of Joe Rogan clips where they are fully talking and the guest is fully talking.
The mouths are fully moving.
It sounds identical to them.
But they're advertising some product.
Yeah.
It's completely fucking fake.
Oh, when they were trying to scan people to buy stuff.
Yeah.
Well, it's just, yeah, it's fully fake.
Yeah.
It's like they're advertising this like, it could be like anything.
Like a body supplement or something.
Usually supplements, but and obviously they do usually advertise like supplements or
some sort of thing.
But like completely fake ones.
Yeah, it's kind of scary.
Yeah.
I watched Joe Rogan explaining Biomicle and that was good.
But knowing that it could be used for,
knowing that it could be used for the various reasons.
Does they even sell bionicles anymore?
No, no, it was like him explaining bionicles to Jordan Peterson or something.
And it was really funny because I just thought that they were going it deep in depth into bionicle law.
And I just, for some reason, I found that funny.
I guess they're like, these podcasts are long, right?
So, fuck.
I mean, they've got to go down some fucking rabbit holes.
Of course, yeah.
I think I, when I used to mow lawns, my first job out of school, I would listen podcasts all the time.
I think I listen to, surely at some point I listen
to Joe Rogan one, but yeah, like a decade ago.
Yeah, I mean like, I feel like his clips are inescapable,
especially, I don't know why it's specifically his clips
whenever there's some kind of fucking.
Because he gets outrageous guests.
No, it's when it's like,
there's always some kind of fucking conspiracy going on.
Like, the pyramids, man.
Like, there's no tools that they could have had
that could have built them, man.
And did you know, if you measure the base
of the thickness of the pyramids,
it's the actual succumbents.
of the earth to within like micro percent degree.
My favorite one is always like,
so there's always been writings about the ancient city
of Atlantis that was lost through time.
And every, every civilization talked about this
and it disappeared all the same time,
even though there's no kind of like evidence or whatever.
Yeah, like how many, how many conspiracy theories
can we go through?
That one's interesting though.
The Atlantis one's interesting.
Yeah, you've been like, like,
well it's like, it's a,
in Africa.
No, no, no, no.
Okay, okay, okay.
Where's the counter part?
There's, uh, there's large, like,
chunks of desert that used to be lush forests,
you know, lots of tropical water, all that sort of stuff.
It's just all slowly been eroded and buried by the sand.
Where all the water go?
You'd never be able to, you'd never...
Evaporation, bro.
Where'd all the water go that's like was in a heap of other places?
Like, they used to be like,
Australia was underwater or something, I'm kidding.
But no, I don't know, I'm just saying.
Like, is, like, have they checked all the sand?
all the sand?
Have they gone through with a metal detector
and seen if they found Atlanta? I don't know, man.
Do you know, my favorite conspiracy theory?
Australia isn't real.
Ah, yes, we're all discussing this.
I got an internet fight with
the kid that kept saying that.
He's so funny.
What happened?
No, he just, like, he just says that
when you fly to Australia, you're actually getting
drugged and dropped off in New Zealand.
And it's just funny when you actually are
in it. I mean, we might not actually be in Australia.
I actually had to think about it for a second.
I'm like, I'm not in Australia.
We are in Australia, yeah.
I'm not so overseas, right?
I love how, I love how there's the narrative of like,
oh yeah, this giant island continent is not real.
But you see it's definitely real.
We're all actors.
Yeah.
So did you make a video like calling him out?
Well, these were back in my reaction days.
It was like six years ago.
Right.
Are you reacting to him?
We had a little beef, yeah, no,
he just, because he was just chatting so much dumb shit.
I was just going through all these videos.
He was just trying to bait for attention.
He was just making all these videos
just waffling on about all sorts.
sorts of random shit.
I think he still does this day
and honestly,
hopefully he's doing right.
But you see people
every now and then just pick back up on it.
Like I think,
yeah,
there's been a few channels
that have made full dedicated videos
to him even in recent times
because he just pops up on TikTok
and just chatting some shit.
If anyone just talks a lot of shit,
you'll eventually get noticed.
Say something controversial,
have an extreme opinion
and share it with as many people as possible.
That's how you make money.
That's true.
Was he meming or was he like?
He's got a.
He'd have to be.
I think.
He's just very dedicated.
But it is impressive to see someone commit to a character that hard.
Yeah, it's like, I don't know, I would think out of context that flat earthers are a meme,
but obviously there are like a real thing, right?
Or are they?
Or are they?
That's a conspiracy.
That is a whole thing.
Yeah, no, I hope he was maiming.
Yeah, sometimes you don't know, it's like, is this guy a character or is he actually just crazy?
I can never tell with the internet anymore.
We've got some of the flat earthers.
There's like some intelligent flat earthers.
That's the thing.
thing right that's the thing proved they kept accidentally proving that the earth was round
but they were like intelligent enough to be able to set up all these experiments to prove that the earth
was was round yeah it's yeah it's yeah it's smart people can be dumb yeah yeah very much so
that's why we watch anime yeah yeah yeah did we ever recommend uh another what the starter
anime were i feel like we go on i mean i definitely got a list do you want you on superpowers do
I love a good like,
someone described attack on Titan to me.
I think they were saying like Game of Thrones
in a way in the sense of like.
Everyone says that one is it really?
Oh, because I guess like the scope of things,
I'm not really sure like the actual correlation,
but I guess maybe the scope.
It's very political.
Yeah, like it's very political.
Oh yeah, I suppose that part, yeah,
that's actually very true.
So I love like a good story in that regard.
A good.
I love good world building.
Okay.
I love that shit.
What about like a trigon stampede?
You reckon that be a good starter or?
Probably not start.
anime.
It sounds under, but it is 140 episodes.
But it is good.
That's, I look, it could be a slow burner,
I slowly get through, but...
It is good.
If you want something that hits fast
and it's just very, very easy to get through,
One Punch Man.
Oh, one punch, that is...
Oh, yeah.
That is...
Okay, okay.
It's basically about a superhero
who trained so fucking hard
where he can kill everything with One Punch.
I think I've played a Roblox game, but...
Yes, I played this one.
I think I actually have...
Okay, is it always that you should
watch the subtitled version or should,
is there sometimes that you think you should watch?
Sometimes the dubs are actually better
than the Japanese version.
Yeah. Okay, interesting.
Cause I feel like it's a sacrilegious thing.
No, no, no, that's like, maybe like 10 years ago.
It's because there are, you know, a while back,
there was a lot of subs,
so a lot of English dub versions,
which just weren't that great.
Okay. Yeah.
But there are a lot that are pretty decent
and I think we've gotten to this point now
where no one fucking cares
and just watch whatever works for you.
Yeah. Yeah.
If you wanna watch a show that has like,
I think like a better, like is better,
experience in English.
Barkano is incredible.
It's kind of like a Quentin Tarantino movie.
Interesting.
You might also like Vinland Saga.
Because there was something interesting
about subtitles.
I found I was actually had to pay way more attention
to what I was watching.
Yeah, you don't.
Instead of just like, oh God,
or something.
Yeah, you have to really.
Just keep me good.
The subway surf a bullshit at the bottom
is the same thing as when you sit in there watching a show
and you're like, oh, I got Twitter alert.
Yeah.
You can't do that way.
Like read your subtitles.
You have to.
to actually be honed in.
You should prop up Subway Surfer under your TV.
I saw a TikTok of someone who sat up their whole house.
It was like two TVs above each other
just to obviously make fun of it.
Yeah, I saw someone doing like a presentation
and then they were like, wait, hold on.
And then they held up Subway Surfer and carried it.
Oh.
Oh, we're fucking doomed.
We are.
We need to do that with anime.
Just have a full season of fucking attack on Titan
except it's just cropped.
And just like the bottom half is just Subway Surfer.
We are doomed as a people.
but we are but hopefully you have some new anime that you can watch as well yes yeah oh when the
world's then you can always hit us up you'd be like what's the next what's in the record oh i will i will
i mean it sounds like i'm going to have a little bit to get through yeah do you travel do you travel
often last year i definitely did uh pretty much lived in england for like three months i'm so sorry
hey i love it i love it why does every Aussie love england i wouldn't want to maybe live there
forever but yeah london's fun yeah no London was really cool um i'd never been to europe or like
anywhere with like really old buildings before,
you know.
So you're like, whoa.
Yeah, I was like, fuck this is sick.
I also just, yeah, I don't know,
just very different energy.
I kind of like the cold as well,
so it was really cold when I first went there.
I was doing content there, which was great.
Yeah, not for myself, but.
It's nice to get to travel and do content,
but also have like off days
where you kind of like get to do fun stuff.
Oh, yeah, man.
Feels like you're in a place with a purpose
and I really enjoyed that.
Especially because it was like,
we got locked down here for like two years,
couldn't travel.
Yeah, yeah, I heard the lockdown here was like insane.
Not to make it seem like,
It's the end of the world.
It's a good place to be.
But, you know, when we could travel again,
it was rough, yeah.
I did a lot of it.
I did a lot of it.
Yeah.
Would you ever think about coming to Japan?
I've been there once.
Really?
Been there once?
Yes, I've been there once.
And I went straight to Naseko and snowboarded for like five days.
Oh, I just Australia.
No.
I know.
That's what I wanted to say.
Like, because I know, obviously, you guys have a lot of experience in Japan.
And I'm like, I've been there, but I have not experienced the culture.
I think I landed in Tokyo, went to the airport hotel.
and then went straight to like Naseko or something like that.
Dude, this Nisiko in the on season is just Australia.
It was.
Everyone was just speaking like in an Aussie accent, English to me.
I'm like, this is very helpful, but I'm not getting any cultural experience here.
Or when you come to Tokyo, head is up.
Oh, I would love to.
I know.
Pretty much everyone I'm friends with right now is like,
it's even separate friend groups is like,
oh, we're thinking about Japan this year.
Yeah.
I think about Japan this year.
I'd love to.
I mean, we're also down to going to Nisico to fucking question.
I definitely think I gotta get back there.
That was the best experience of my life.
It's funny, we had an episode where we talked about
who we think the worst tourists are
in the world and Joey's like,
Ozzie's when they go skiing.
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
But I don't ski, I snowboard.
We don't like them.
I promise it's different, I promise it's different.
All right, oh yeah, anything you want to shout out?
Nothing too in particular.
You can watch my YouTube videos,
Lasebeam and if you're ever buying V-bucks or Robux,
just saying, use that.
You know, Japan they saw V-bucks just in the convenience store.
Oh, of course.
Then tell the cashier this.
I don't know what that is in Japanese.
Corderlizza.
Well, that's it because I did, sorry, off topic,
but I did year eight Japanese,
and my Japanese teacher literally said,
speak English.
Oh, yeah.
You have to.
Because it's like they don't have L's.
And that's once again,
I could be massively ignorant.
No, no, you're right, you're right.
I always feel bad where I'm like.
So you say like, oh, I'm,
Reza Beam.
Yeah, that's what I'm like.
And am I being, right?
No, no, actually.
It sounds racist, but.
That's not trying to be like.
If you ever go to the Japan, they'll, like,
if you don't know a word, you say it's like,
you say it in that accent and you might think,
oh shit, am I being racist?
But it makes it easier to understand.
Because I'm trying not to be ignorant, but like.
You go to like McDonald's, right?
It's like a big mac.
Oh my God.
Yeah, it's like, oh, I want a milk tea.
You're just,
of midi-kuti.
Yeah.
That's, it sounds like a meme,
this is a fucking trap.
This is not a trap.
It's a trap.
We're gonna go gas line here.
Bashed.
Watching a Japanese person saying light and right
is the funniest thing in the world.
Really?
Because I can't say it.
Oh God.
Yeah, let's make fun of people's act.
Wow, I found out a lot about you guys.
Thanks coming on, man.
Thank you giving us the time.
Thanks, thank you.
Thanks, thank me.
Yeah, yeah.
Now's a good time.
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I bet they use code laser.
Yes, all of them.
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