Trash Taste Podcast - We Watched the Most Down Bad Anime of All Time | Trash Taste #265

Episode Date: July 18, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to another episode of Trash Taste. I'm your host, Connor. Once again, you're by the boys, Jerry and Garn, who have disagreeing opinions. Certified Sorbetterator on Sorbetes and ice cream. You've never even had Sorbet. But we're not here to talk about sorbet or ice cream. We're here today because it is the trash taste anime club.
Starting point is 00:00:18 Yes. Weems reunite. And this time we did actually watch an anime. Yes, we do. We also played a game. Yeah. So you guys over on the Patreon, every single anime club, get to recommend one,
Starting point is 00:00:30 show or thing that we need to watch and talk about in the anime club episode. And then the second time or the second thing we watch or play or experience is recommended by one of us. And in this case, Connor recommended us to play a game. Out of wild. Out of wilds. You guys recommended us to watch the 100 girlfriends who really, really, really, really, really, really love you. Why did they do that? Because it's a fucking awesome show. All right, let's, you know what, while we're on it, let's, let's start with that. Yeah, yeah. Because I assume you've watched all of it, right?
Starting point is 00:01:05 Of course, of course. I've also watched all of it. What? So, um, you've watched all of it? Yeah, because I've, I love the manga. Before we continue, if you guys want to watch our reaction to set media, you can go to Patreon.com slash trash taste. Uh, uh, and you get to see our first reactions to the first hour of, I guess,
Starting point is 00:01:26 each piece of media. Yeah. For this anime club. And yes, like I said, we're starting with 100 girlfriends that really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, love you.
Starting point is 00:01:35 I'm dying to hear Conner's thinking about this because I'm sure Connor looked at the title and he's like, goddamn, how do they know my taste? Yeah, I did. My first impression was, oh yeah, another garned slop. Why is it a ganslop?
Starting point is 00:01:52 Well, this is also a joey slop as well. This is like peak ganslop. Why is it of God? Well, that's what I felt going into it. I was like, oh, it's just like a generic show with lots of women who've fawn over a guy and want to fuck him. That's just harrim anime. Yeah, that's more on my alley than anything. Yeah, but like this one felt like, because I feel like there has been, there's like some kind of rift that happened five odd years ago, longer maybe, where like harum animates went from like, there'd be like just four girls that kind of like the main guy and barely even like.
Starting point is 00:02:26 him, to be honest. Yeah. So now that like fucking feral, mouth agape, legs spread wide. Like, just trying to get a glimpse of the emcee. I mean,
Starting point is 00:02:36 I like to think, though, that 100 girlfriends is almost a parody on like the, the harem truck, if you will. Like, it's the extremified,
Starting point is 00:02:45 yeah, because the whole show does not take itself seriously. No, that's, and then, you know, when the show started,
Starting point is 00:02:49 I was like, oh, this seems promising. You know, episode one opens up and he gets rejected by generic girl A.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Yeah. I was like, they actually just called her generic girl. I was like, okay, that's pretty funny. Yeah. That's pretty fun.
Starting point is 00:03:02 And then he, you know, he's been rejected by a hundred girls. Yeah. I was trying to do the math of like how many girls he'd asked out, like how frequently. And he said he started at like age eight. And he started at like three years old.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Yeah, remember the first girl that rejected him was when he was a baby and ride the flower? Oh, eight months old. That was like, yeah. And presumably he was like, what,
Starting point is 00:03:22 like 15, 16? Yeah, because he just went into high school. So he'd be 15. And he's been rejected by a hundred women. So I was like, that's like a woman a month he's been rejected by.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Bro's on the Sigma grind set, man. And I was thinking, I... Or down bad. We asked Joey, your name of woman. Joey couldn't name a woman. How did... Imagine if I asked him to get rejected by a hundred women. That would take so long.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Bro, I don't even know 100 women. When I'm reacting to you, that's what I said. I was like, I don't even know 100 women. How can I get rejected by 100 women? And then how bad is it? Like, again, I'm playing like a realistic lens. If you were like... Do you remember when you got rejected by this girl 33
Starting point is 00:03:58 and you'd be like, I have no recollection of that. Yeah. Because at some point you'd forget. Yeah. You wouldn't forget. Because for most people, it's a traumatic experience. They want to forget. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:06 I could tell you when I've been rejected. In gruesome detail. Yeah. Every time of my life. But yeah, a hundred times you'd think you'd get the hint. Yeah. And who keeps track? He does.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Well, he does because he's been rejected. So, you know. He gets rejected a hundred times. Yeah. And it's brutal. On his last day of middle school. Yeah. On his last day of middle school.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Yeah. Which is like what age 14? Something like that, yeah. It's anime age. Yeah, who's the age is really matter. Yeah. And then he goes to the shrine. And this is where the show is like,
Starting point is 00:04:37 oh, this is quite fun actually. He meets the shrine god, who's just an old man. And he's like, ah, yeah, you'll get a, you'll get a lot of bitches now. It's on me. Because I think he didn't just meet a shrine god. He just met God, right? Yeah. Was it God?
Starting point is 00:04:51 I thought, oh, I thought it was the God of Love. It was the God of Love. Oh, that's it. The God of Love. basically tells him, don't worry, King. I know you. In high school, you are going to meet the one true love. And he was like, bet, finally. Let's go. So then they go into high school and, uh, and he meets two girls on the first day at the same time. And, uh, same class.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Yeah. Same class. And they just instantly fall in love. And they do this like whole fucking Steinsgate-esque like, like slumdog millionaire style thing. And they're like, oh my God, these two girls are like madly in love with me. But then the problem arises, it cuts back to the love of God and he was like, yes, I kind of fucked up. Um, instead of writing one person that you'll fall in love with, on your form, I accidentally wrote a hundred. So there are going to be a hundred true loves that you are going to meet in your lifetime. Yeah, Burrell was watching like kitchen nightmares or something on TV. Yeah. Just like, okay, yeah, everyone gets, uh, gets one, uh, soulmates and then he accidentally wrote 100 for Rentaro. Yeah. Uh,
Starting point is 00:05:54 But, you know, my boy steps up to the plates. Absolutely fucking gig a chat. That's not also what he says. He also says like, you'll get a hundred women. Oh, and by the way, if you reject them, they'll die. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Which I was like, what?
Starting point is 00:06:09 What is this? He's like, their life will be ruined and they'll die. Yeah. I was like, oh, okay. So now he has to date them all. Yeah. Because he's nice guy, Rentro. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:20 And Rentro hears that. And he's like, now this sounds like a job for me. and he just fucking he so the whole point of the show is that whenever he sees a girl and he gets that little fucking electricity something that's like that's the God's power telling him this is one of your soulmates
Starting point is 00:06:40 and he has a hundred soulmates that he's eventually I assume going to meet throughout the duration of the show and I think within the first three episodes we meet three of the girls yeah yes So, and it's also, and this is where you know that the show is not taking itself seriously, because all of the girls, not just the three that we saw in the first three episodes, but like pretty much the rest of the 97 girls, they're all basically parodies of a very tropey type of anime character. So like the first two goals we mean is, fuck, I keep forgetting their names. There's the pink head girl who is like just a... Hikari?
Starting point is 00:07:24 Kari, I think, yeah. Shit, what's her name? Hakari, yeah. Hakari, who is like, basically she's like the kind of, yeah, the clumsy dera-dari type of character trope. And then there's Karane, who is the most, like, fucking extreme Sundere. Sun-Sun-Derry. Yeah, super Sundari. And they meet them at the same time in Chapter 1.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Yes. And then in Chapter 3 or Episode 3, We meet Shizaka, which is the quiet, shy girl, who is basically a mute at this point. Yeah. And can only speak through chat GPT. No, no, it goes, no, so this is the moment we're like, okay, so I don't know about you guys,
Starting point is 00:08:08 but like the first two episodes, clearly, is just like, you know, straight up, like comedy harem. Like, it's just, like, jokes flying everywhere, you know, even though there's, like, slight kind of, like, quote-unquote, wholesome moments. It's like, for the most part, it's kind of rooted in comedy. What I liked about episode three with Shizuka is that like they almost take the story in like a somewhat kind of like proper serious romantic way.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Yeah. In the sense that she's clearly this like new girl who has had like a lot of like family trauma. Yeah. Growing up and she can't talk. But then Rentaa is like, hey, you can only talk through books. Uh, you know what? I'm going to do a fucking gigacad move because you are my soulmate. And I'm going to basically rewrite the entire book that you carry around with you at all times.
Starting point is 00:08:52 throw it onto like a fucking text to speech program so that you can just like so the thing can talk for you. And like it kind of sets it up in like a very like wholesome, almost like, uh, do you remember the world gonely nose? Yes. It reminded me of that. Oh. You know what I mean? It's like, it's like it's in the same vein of like it's a, it's clearly like a romance that doesn't take itself seriously. But then it has some story progressions where it's like, oh, that's actually really fucking cute and wholesome. Yeah. I really like that about episode three. So a couple of things I noticed was that this, this is vast, the show. Yes. Yes. Because I, initially, I put it to 1.25 speed. And within the first minute, I had to turn that off because
Starting point is 00:09:33 I was like, this is going way too fast. Yeah. Because I thought this was going to be a slog. I thought this is going to be like, oh, fuck, another slop show. Fuck. But now I had to set it off because I was like, okay, it's actually going really fast. Yeah. Because every five seconds, this is good. Yeah. It felt like, like, Haram for TikTok. Because it was like, really, really fast. And I appreciate it. I never felt like it was like it was trying to waste my time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:58 So props to the show for that. I did it, I did laugh quite a lot. There's some really funny moments. Yeah, I mean, there's a, there's a moment.
Starting point is 00:10:07 And look, I also liked it, at least in these new harams, they're kind of quick to get like, to like trying to get a kiss in. Yeah. Yeah. In the older shows,
Starting point is 00:10:15 it'd be like fucking 30 episodes. So maybe maybe get a little kiss on the cheek. It depends on what harrim, what kind of harrims. I would, say this is more of a harum akin to something more on like the self-aware side of things. Yeah, for sure, for sure. You guys won't get the reference, but I call this the eminence and shadow of
Starting point is 00:10:35 Harem because eminence and shadow does something very similar to the Isakai genre. Yeah. Where it's something that doesn't take itself seriously at all until it 100% does and then it fully locks in. And then it goes back to being like, ha ha, funny show, you know. Yeah, yeah, for sure. It's obviously written by someone who is very, very knowledgeable of the harem genre, enough so that the jokes aren't just like surface level. They're like, oh, you understand these genres to be able to poke fun at yourself.
Starting point is 00:11:06 And then when you need to, also take yourself 100% seriously on what makes this genre like stand out. Yeah, yeah. There was a scene I thought it was fucking stupid. It was fun. these two girls and he somehow kind of convinces them both to have a relationship with him
Starting point is 00:11:26 and initially they're not down for it and what you know the sundari's like absolutely fucking not and the other girl's like yeah all right and then the sundari's like well fine then I'll do it oh god okay here we go
Starting point is 00:11:38 and you're like this is already like this is a disaster this is not going to go well yeah and then for some reason of course they're on the roof and they're like talking and for some reason the discussion of having a first kiss comes out. Oh, I love that scene.
Starting point is 00:11:51 It seems so good. And he's trying to think of a democratic way to give everyone the first kiss. Yeah. And so he conjures up this idea where he'll be blindfolded and they have to roll, it's like the most complicated, like the most liar game shit.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Yeah, it's like a touring computer solving algorithm to figure out how to give which one, which girl the first kiss. They've like roll a dice and if he rolls, even one of the most, go to left and they won't know who's left and who's got the kiss first. And he won't know ideally who's kissed. And my whole head, I'm like, this doesn't make sense because you'll just know. Like when you kiss someone, it's like features. And then immediately
Starting point is 00:12:29 he goes for a kiss and one of the girl has big boobs and he just immediately touches them. Yeah. Yeah. But who I was thinking my head, I'm like, why would you go out to kiss a girl holding your hands like this? Like, you know what I mean? Like going up to touch someone, I was like, you're an idiot. Yeah. But of course, it was ended, it was very funny and it was chaotic. It was good fun. Yeah. It's basically, it's basically, it's basically. I was like, I watched the scene, I'm like, damn, this is like if they put death notes in like... Yeah, it was death note, like, planning.
Starting point is 00:12:56 Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. This is, this is like when they were about to storm the chimera and building in Hunter, Hunter. They had that much level of planning. They should have had a narrator and everything to be like, this is what's going to happen. They're going to drop down. It was like, it was ridiculous level of intricate planning for something that ultimately failed and didn't work. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:16 But then somehow, I don't know how they... agreed on this. This is like some kind of World War II era Soviet pact. They were like, we're all going to kiss each other at the same time. I was like, this is ridiculous. I love it. It was funny. It was good. Did you like it? I like the, I like the, Hinaka. Is that a name? Is that I got it right? Which one? Hakadi. Hakari. Hikari. I like Hakari the most. Yeah. Hacadi's really funny. And I just saw, I got spoiled. Yeah. Her mom is one of the girls. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Yes. Yeah. Real shit. Real shit. I liked her. So now I didn't know that was gonna happen. Yeah. And it says, it says, do you want to have a look at her mom?
Starting point is 00:13:58 Yeah. Go ha-hadi, honey-hung-well-y, high-privileged mother who is as perverted as her daughter. I'm so much. Oh, I'm locked in. Her, she is like legitimately one of the funniest characters in the show. Yeah. She's great. It's so funny.
Starting point is 00:14:15 I would risk it all. Yeah. I would risk it all. I guess we've just gotten into like... Valuptuous body, wealthness, keen, cosplayer? Oh, she! Because I think the one thing that you slowly,
Starting point is 00:14:29 that you almost immediately get by watching the beginning of the show, is that you should throw away all a sense of disbelief. Yeah, yeah. Because the show gets progressively more and more ridiculous. Yeah, I mean, as it goes on. Yeah. I could conceive that you could maybe convince me. two women to join you in a relationship.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Yeah. Like I could see that. It's been done before. It's not new ground. But 100, 100 girls? This is... How could you even, you know, it'd be like, oh, you want to hang out?
Starting point is 00:15:01 You want to have a date? Well, I'm free and four months. Yeah. I got a day free. Or it's like, all right, I'll give you four minutes. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, it's like you, obviously, obviously there's not any sense of realism here.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Yeah, because I've read up to, I believe, volume 12. Oh my God, you're deep in the world. I'm deep into the show because it was so fucking funny. And I think at that point we're at like 20 something girls. I just saw elderly woman is one of them. What the fuck is going on? Yeah. It gets pretty insane.
Starting point is 00:15:31 But yeah, it's like... What is a freiboo? What? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. She's the, she's the, basically an American, American weirboo. Yeah, is that what they call them? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:41 She's the American, yeah, she's the American weiribu. Free aboo. Free is that what they call it? Yeah. Of course she's a horse girl. Yes. She's also really funny. I just saw the mom, I spilled the water.
Starting point is 00:15:56 But yeah, the girls not only get more and more ridiculous in their tropes, but it's just like, I mean, people have read the manga, we'll know, but it's just genuinely impressive how, even though, you know, you get to like say goal 20 in the story, right? You might start to think, like, how can the author give enough scream time to any of these girls. Yeah. The author somehow does. I don't know how. Well, even though there's so many girls that appear, it's just like, oh yeah, I remember every single one of these girls because I think she made sure to like give them like such a distinct personality. Yeah. From each other that it somehow
Starting point is 00:16:32 works. Well, the thing is, you and when you hear the title 100 girlfriends, that we really, really, really love you. You think it's kind of like just a, you think the gag's going to get tired by like girl five. Yeah. Right? Because it's like, oh, okay, ha ha. The joke. is that he's going to get 100 girlfriends. And you think to yourself, how the hell is he going to do this with this many girls? But what you slowly start to realize
Starting point is 00:16:55 is that the author is fucking dedicated, right? He doesn't, there's no throwaway girl. He or they, I should say, I think it's a woman. Yeah, I'm not going to assume, I just assumed it was a guy, but I don't know, I don't know if they're a guy. Let me look at up.
Starting point is 00:17:12 I'm pretty sure the author is a woman. Yeah. I mean, we're, you know, if you said there's a woman. only like, oh, it's a guy, okay. I mean, if you, you know, we are only 100 girls. Oh, no, the illustrators and women. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Well, we're, what, 20 odd girls in? I mean, it's hard to say if it'll get repetitive, a quarter of the cashed in. Yeah, I don't even know how many we're up to right next. Well, I know they've said, the author is said that they're dedicated to doing all 100 girls. And the thing is, they are giving screen time to every single girl. They're giving like a backstory.
Starting point is 00:17:44 They're giving adequate screen time. And the thing is, they will have chapters where it's not like you'd think they would want to speed run this and being like, okay, I need to get through all 100 girls as quickly as possible. And I'm like, holy shit, reading this, they are going the one piece routes.
Starting point is 00:17:58 They are going the long game with this. This is the one piece of Haremontaghan. It's already at 200 on chapters, right? Yeah, I believe so. How many girls are we at right now? 33. 33. So we're a third of the way.
Starting point is 00:18:12 And we're at chapter 200. An alpha, olfacophilic. All fatophilic. What is that? I think it's like someone who is obsessed with like ears and nose. What? Well, I assume because all I assume it come from olfactory. Yeah, aroused by smells and odors.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Ah, okay. Was it off. So we're about a third of the way. We're literally a third of the way. We're literally a third of the way. Okay, that's cool. We are a third of the way through and we're at chapter 200. These descriptions are ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Klingy autophobic. What's autophobic? Movement? Like, automation? I don't know. Why are they all scared of things? What is an autophobic? Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:18:56 You've missed the A in autophobic. Is a specific phobia or a morbid fear of dread or oneself? Oh, like autobiography. All autos and like. So basically a doomer. Okay, basically some on TikTok Instagram comments
Starting point is 00:19:15 And I guess the one thing That brings this all together Is the main character himself, Rentaro Yeah, because he Like you get to a point where he He is more powerful than Goku To be able to keep all of his girlfriends
Starting point is 00:19:32 Happy He somehow has to like I believe there's some chapters where he literally fucking clones himself Or What? Oh, yeah, with the scientist girl, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, or at least, like, transcends the speed of light.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Okay, that makes sense. So, so he can, like, equally give every girl as much attention as each other. I, I really enjoyed episode one and two. Episode three, I was like, hmm. You don't like episode three? I don't know. I was, I was kind of like, it was kind of weird. Because, you know, he's making out with these girls.
Starting point is 00:20:06 You know, he has a kiss with them, you know, and this, this mute girl sees it. Yeah. You know, they're trying to sell me on like a really serious romance here. And he's just on the fucking park bench kissing these other girls. Then he goes back to the to the mute guy to play savior. Yeah. And I'm just like, eh. Like I'm kind of like, I don't really buy it because next fucking chapter,
Starting point is 00:20:27 she'll probably be thrown to the side because the next girl's introduced. And I'm like, No, no, actually the silent girl, as far as I've read, she makes a lot of appearances. Oh, okay. Yeah, throughout the show. Like the first, I'd say the first five girls, I'd probably make the most prominent appearances.
Starting point is 00:20:40 throughout the entire season. Yeah, I guess because you know there's gonna be 100. It's just really hot. I felt like, I felt like there could be romantic moments, but I wasn't really sold on the romance. Yeah, right. Well, I don't think you're supposed to be sold on the romance. No, but I felt like an episode three,
Starting point is 00:20:55 they were really trying to like lock in and give a serious moment. Yeah, yeah. And I was just like, he's literally just planting a bone, Hikari's mom in like, too chapped this. Like, I can't wait for it. But no, I think what you come to realize, the more episodes you watch is that,
Starting point is 00:21:10 Rentaro does not play favorites. There is no favorites here. In fact, it becomes like a, eventually, it becomes this kind of like gag that they aren't his girlfriends anymore. It's going to sound fucking even weirder, but it's just like the Rentaro family, you know. Yeah, pretty much. Well, I saw one of them's his cousin, apparently.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Which, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What? That's right. Yeah, I remember that. Chi or E, number 12. This doesn't even fucking spoil anything because, like, I'm not going to remember any of this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:42 And she's a taxophobic. What is a taxophobic? I don't know. Dude, the fucking 100 girlfriends Wikipedia's T's new words. Why they all scared? Why they all scared of everything? Nope, that's not a little. That's not it.
Starting point is 00:21:55 What is a taxophobia? It doesn't even come up on fucking week. Okay, so the 100 girlfriends week is just making up shit. Well, it's like, yeah. I mean, I guess because it was the first, you know, moment in the show where they were trying to really sell you on some romance. Yeah. It felt like a very drastic change in mood.
Starting point is 00:22:14 And I kind of preferred the more the chill style they were going for. So I think the more if I was to watch more of it, I might enjoy it a bit more. But yeah, it was just kind of, yeah, it didn't sell me on it. Fair enough. And the whole, I don't know why. Like, this book is fucked.
Starting point is 00:22:30 This book is just every random sentence that you'd need. I was like, this is not how a book would work. Yeah. Like, you'd end up saying like, why'd that ass fat love you? What? I just feel like... And then the hero said. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Yeah, but I think that's what like sells it for me on just like the ridiculousness of it. Yeah, true. And it's just like legitimately, I've read a lot like, you know, because obviously comedy is very much subjective, especially in manga and anime. Yeah. But this one is legitimately one of the funnier ones that I've seen. Just because like a lot of the gags are not only unique because it's such a unique situation in a manga anime story, but just like, the author just does such a good job of, like,
Starting point is 00:23:11 taking the tropeiness of a character that you'd think you'd be fucking done with after having watched so many anime series, but somehow manages to create gags that I've never seen with those tropes being used. And I don't know how he does it, but it's like, you know, I'm like, what, 13 volumes in, it's still funny. Okay. Yeah. I can see it's probably why the manga is doing so fucking well. Yeah, I imagine it feels, it felt like the more I watched, the more I would get into it. Yeah. Obviously, I mean, that's obviously most things, but like it felt like it would reward me for sticking around. Yeah, instead of just kind of wasting my time. Because you're also, you're up until like a certain, like, when you get to a certain point as well, at least how I got to it
Starting point is 00:23:50 was like, after a while, I'm just like, all right, what fucked, what fucked up girl's gonna show up next? And it's always one you do not expect. Well, apparently someone is scopophobic. What the fuck is scopophobic? And she likes knitting. The fuck is scopathobic. Oh, this goal, yeah. The Comey-san. An unreasonable fear of being seen or stand that.
Starting point is 00:24:12 What the fuck? Yeah. They got Comey sound in there? Yeah, literally, like, literally, Comey-san. I've never heard of scopathobic before. Me neither. I just thought that was shy.
Starting point is 00:24:23 I've watched a hentai with that character. Oh, yes. Probably, I don't know. Probably, it looks like it. She's the female hentai protagonist. Yeah. Right. Fair enough.
Starting point is 00:24:32 I mean, how many episodes are there in this anime? So, season two is, well, I believe, airing right now, or at least it was airing last season. Oh, shit. Wow. Yeah. So I believe there are 24 episodes out right now since season one was 13, 12 episodes. And season two was also 12 episodes. I'm going to, I'm going to guess.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Season one was 12, yeah. Yeah. It felt very horny this show as well. Oh, yeah. It's definitely horny. Like, it's, it is a horny show. Yeah, 24 episodes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Also, I don't know about you guys. I fucking love the art. I think the art is so unique. The character designs I really like. Yeah, it's really, really unique. And it works so well for the show as well. Yeah, they made a really, really good. They had a, they, they've done a really good job
Starting point is 00:25:22 at making each character design like unique as well. They don't all just blend in together. And I don't know, just the more girls you add, the more ridiculous it gets. I mean, the moment where I was like, this is, how are they going to make this work? Is when obviously now we've talked about it, when Hikari's mom gets introduced and it's like, wait,
Starting point is 00:25:42 how does this make this fit? How do they mentally process this? Like, mom, daughter, they are dating the same guy. Yeah. And it's the dynamic that they form around this. They obviously acknowledge it. And it's this weird dynamic, but it's,
Starting point is 00:25:59 They somehow make the dynamic work comedically without making it awkward. I was going to say, if you had to tell me that moms are on the tail, I would have locked in for another couple of episodes. This show is legitimately for everybody because every kind of like trope or like any kind of like, this fulfills any fetish you might have because there's probably at least one girl who is like smack bang like, yeah, that's my girl. Yeah. So yeah, I fucking love this show.
Starting point is 00:26:26 So yeah, this is a show if for anyone who, you don't even need to enjoy harem genre to enjoy the harum genre to enjoy a show like this. I think the show stands on its own merits, but if you have watched harrim anime before and you are familiar with the tropes and
Starting point is 00:26:43 the archetypes that come with haram anime, I think you're going to enjoy this even more. I would say this is much more on the comedy parody side of things, much more on the romance side of things, but there is romance aspects to wit as well. Yeah. The important thing is that
Starting point is 00:26:58 the difference between this and every other harem is that there is no best girl because the rent-a-row will fucking come to your house and he will come
Starting point is 00:27:10 he will come he'll come to your house and he will kill you for even mentioning a best girl because every girl's best girl in the show. It felt like you
Starting point is 00:27:17 I got like three speed run romances in three episodes yeah so I think like if you go into it expecting a very fun funny speed run of love
Starting point is 00:27:27 then you have a good time. Again, I had a good time watching it. Genuinely, I had fun. I had fun. Yeah. So, well done patrons for this recommendation. Connor likes it. I didn't like it.
Starting point is 00:27:36 It was fun. Yeah. No fucking way. Conna actually enjoyed this one. So there you go. That'll tell you something. If you know anything about Connor's taste and anime, even he liked it. Yeah, I had a good time.
Starting point is 00:27:45 It was fun. Yeah. Yeah. Which I guess brings us to your recommendation, Connor. Yeah, I wanted you guys play Outta Wild. Which was Outer Wild. Before we talk about it, how long did you guys play it for? I play for an hour.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Okay. I played it for about an hour and 20 minutes. Okay, okay. Yeah, I wish. So you probably scratched the surface. I wish I had more time to play. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:08 I don't know how long it takes for me to have that aha moment. Uh-huh. But I felt like I didn't get it just yet. Okay. So walk me through what happened. Because I don't want to say too much. And really, if you really don't want to be spoiled at all with anything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:27 You probably shouldn't if you haven't played the game. So, you know, this is a light warning. Because, like, even us talking about just the first hour, does kind of spoil some cool things. Yeah. That will, you know, this is a game that needs to be experienced completely blind. Yeah. So if you do want to play it, I highly just, you just skip and up.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Yeah, I definitely did not get far. But I see, contrary to gone, I did have the aha moment. Okay. The moment the actual space exploration part started and I got to that next planet. Yeah. And I was just like, okay. Yeah, I like this game. But, okay, so to give a brief explanation, as far as I can kind of comprehend, because I don't know the full story, obviously, you're playing as an alien, who I guess is also a space explorer. And you are, you're in a team, like an expedition team, I guess, to kind of discover and kind of unravel the mysteries of this, I guess, ancient civilization. Because your team leader is like this archaeologist who like unearth this mystery.
Starting point is 00:29:27 mysterious statue of this alien species. And, and, but, you know, you, you just think it's like, oh, it's just a regular statue. But then you're, the statue starts interacting with you in really, really weird ways. And you're like, oh, okay, that's a bit strange. I should probably go out and explore and, you know, try and unearth not only the cosmos, but also like just do full on space exploration. And I kind of, you know, you know what, like, when you recommended this game to me, and I started booting it up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:59 For a split second, I was like, is this a horror game? Well, there's certainly aspects. It gave me the vibe of it at first. Some aspects of it actually really freak me the fuck out. Yeah. But I'm a little, I'm a little baby man. That's same, yeah. So I thought I was like, this motherfucker recommended me a horror game.
Starting point is 00:30:14 God damn it. It's just like, there are a lot of emotions that happen when you play this game. Yeah, it is very creepy. So I don't know how far you got, but I got to where you do all the tutorial stuff on the main planet and then you shoot off into space. And I think I landed on the first major planet,
Starting point is 00:30:34 which was, fuck, I forgot the name of it. It's like the dark green planet with the tornadoes everywhere. I did not go to that planet. Okay, I went to that planet. Okay, because you can go anywhere. Yeah, you go anywhere. Yeah, you can go anywhere. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Wait, don't, don't show the planets. Yeah, don't show the planets. Yeah, unless you support loads. If we just go to their play through, yeah, just go to give me the, is there a mouse I can use? I can, can, you know, is, this is a, this is a, game, one aspect of it that's kind of interesting is that, yeah, like, you can beat this game in like 15 minutes. Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, okay. Well, before we go on any further, I would
Starting point is 00:31:10 like to ask Connor not to spoil too much as well. I will not fall too much because I definitely want to keep playing this game. I want to definitely want to experience this game even more. You need to finish this game because it's amazing. Well, one thing I, I felt when I was playing this game was I was like, shit. I actually want to stream this game. Not because, not because, hey, hey, streamer brain. But there are some points when I'm like, damn, am I fucking dumb? Am I just dumb?
Starting point is 00:31:39 Because I was like doing shit. And I'm like, I don't know if I'm doing the right thing here. I feel like I need chat just to like tell me if I'm on the right track. Yeah. Because I saw I wasted so much time just doing random stuff. And I'm like, I don't even know if I achieved anything. I don't think I did. They add so many like different gameplay aspects and elements to this game.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Yeah. Um, but yeah, so I, so obviously the, I think the first like 30 minutes, I was on that first, uh, planet. Yeah, you kind of having to look around. Yeah, having to look around, you know, seeing like how the spaceship works, everything like that, kind of, you know, slowly unraveling the story. Yeah. And then I got to, yeah, that island there.
Starting point is 00:32:17 You picked this place. I picked this place right here. Why did you pick that place? Uh, it just, well, I think it was the closest one at the time. Well, yeah, because depending on what time you go up, the orbit. The orbits change. So it was the closest one that I saw, and I was still trying to figure out the controls
Starting point is 00:32:31 of like how to actually run the ship. So I think I was just kind of experimenting with it, being like, okay, I'll just go there. And then I landed on that planet, and it's just, it's fucked. I met- Oh, you met someone there. Oh, you met someone. Yeah, I met that guy.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Uh-huh, you went back in your share. And then I went back in, I was trying to like, yeah, this fucking island right here. That was planet. So I was just, I was shitting myself being like, where the fuck? do I go? Trying to land on an island and everything like that. Yeah. Try not to get fucked up by the ghost, uh, the ghost energy or whatever it's called. Wait, is this a, uh, water island? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:33:08 so this island was, uh, this planet, so I keep saying island. This planet was really cool because the entire planet is water with only a couple of islands and there are cyclones everywhere. Oh, fuck you. And periodically, the cyclone will actually hit one of the islands and actually shoot the entire island up into space. And as someone who studied physics in school, I appreciated the actual realistic physics because the moment the island goes up into space, everything just starts floating away.
Starting point is 00:33:35 So you have to quickly like fucking jetpack yourself back onto the island before it crashes back down onto the planet. Yeah. And I was just trying to figure out like, what the fuck? Like, where am I going? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Everything like that. But the jetpack physics in this is really cool. Yeah, all the physics is really, really cool. It's really, really cool and really accurate. And yeah, I got, yeah, so I think I locked like maybe one part of the story, because I met the expedition leader. He's on this island. And he kind of talks about like, oh, did you go to that other island with the statue on it?
Starting point is 00:34:03 You should go and uncover that. And I didn't have time to actually find it. Well, that's like the really cool thing about the game is that it doesn't really matter where you go first. You'll always get a piece. Yeah. Right. And then like you're kind of building this puzzle.
Starting point is 00:34:16 And then after a couple of pieces in there, you can start to be like, huh, this looks like something. Yeah. So I can start to kind of like figure out what's going on here. Yeah. Because there's so much about the game that you don't know. Like you, you saw the like, there's like, yeah, because like you know how on the first planet,
Starting point is 00:34:31 you know when you talk to the, when you interact with the statue for the first time and you have that like slumdog millionaire moment and you supposedly die? You die? Did you have that? Yes. I didn't realize you die.
Starting point is 00:34:43 This is so cool that you guys. It happened to me twice. So the second time it happened was on this planet when I was interacting with like this, weird frozen jellyfish in ice or something. And then I had the exact same thing and I was teleported back to the home planet. Where are you talking about when the statue turns towards you?
Starting point is 00:35:01 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you die there? I thought I was just getting like the flashback thing. So apparently, no, your character says, did I just fucking die? Oh, interesting. So I was like, oh, maybe not, because nothing really happened.
Starting point is 00:35:15 But then it happened to me again on that island that I was just on the cyclone island. And you get teleported back to your, main planet. No, because I... And when you talk to the guy again on the other planet, he's like, oh, what happened? And your character's like, I think I died. Oh, wow. Yeah. Are you talking about this? Yeah, this happens again in my playthrough. Oh, yeah, this happened so many times. Oh, really? Yeah. It only happened to me twice. This one, this first time and the second time on the cyclone. Oh, no, it happened to me immediately. Oh, really? I'll tell you why,
Starting point is 00:35:44 right? Because, uh, here, he was, he was my first and final fucking boss. of why I thought I fucking did nothing in this game. Yeah. Um, I could not get my head around the fucking controls, man. That's so funny. Yeah, do you wanna see the- Really? Do you wanna see the first? Were you struggling with the zero G cave?
Starting point is 00:36:09 I didn't even go, but there's a zero G cave? Yeah, there's a training. There's a training cave you can go into to like, Oh, I did. Practice zero-g-jee. I'm pretty sure one of the characters is like, hey, go to the zero-g cave to practice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Yeah. I went trial by fucking fire. They were like, it's next to the observatory, go in. Yeah, so I need to go away, I need to step away for a bit. But let me see if I can find my first take off. So I was like, oh yeah, yeah. So when I looked at that map, I saw that one giant planet so I was spinning.
Starting point is 00:36:37 So this is a trial by fire. I was like, I don't need to figure anything out. I just immediately like, what happens? Jesus Christ. I don't know just fucking crash. Did he just crash land? I don't even know what happened. I literally took up.
Starting point is 00:36:52 This is, this is from the same island, the same world that I just took out, took off from. Forgot that there's gravity and immediately just crashed back down. Can't get out. And I'm like, you didn't hit escape velocity? I didn't hit escape velocity. So I'm like, what the fuck is going? Why is your ship flooding?
Starting point is 00:37:12 Where does you land? Where did you land? I have no clue. So I'm like, oh, that's fucked. Immediately just died. Oh my God, that's so tragic. And I'm like, what the fuck is happening? I didn't even get off the planet.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Jesus Christ. And then I'm like, oh, restart. I guess I died. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this happened to me one other time. Yeah, so. Did you die another time? No, no, but in my case, it was really weird
Starting point is 00:37:45 because I didn't even like lose health or anything. I was walking around on that second planet that I was on. Yeah. And then just randomly, there was just this big loud bang. and then a flash, I thought I got flash banged. And then it's just like, you died. And I'm like, I didn't do anything. I was just walking around.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Did that happen to you as well? That happened to me once, because there's only one actual play through, where I survived to the war, I assume, is the end of a cycle. Because that's kind of like what I imagined, because I was so shit at the game that before I could reach an end of any cycle,
Starting point is 00:38:21 I just kept dying. Like, there's, there's, there's, There's one point. To be fair, like controlling the ship on, on, in some aspects is, it takes a little bit of getting used to. Oh bro, I couldn't figure out how to fucking land this thing. It is, it is, yeah, landing this thing is really hard. There's like a, there's like a planetary, like, alignment thing.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Oh, where the fuck are you? Where is that? This is, so this is one- Oh, god's ship! It's on top of a fucking building. I landed the ship in a building and I wasted some time trying to get a, get back to the fucking ship because I didn't take the spacesuit. So I couldn't jet pack up. You didn't take the space suit?
Starting point is 00:39:00 This is like one of the first planets. I was like, look, I see a building. I don't have to, I don't have to take the space suit. So I'm just stuck here. Trying to get back up to this ship. Oh, there you go, you got it. This was like after me like, this, like if you look at my play-through, it is the most cursed play-through.
Starting point is 00:39:21 This is why I felt like I achieved nothing, because most of this was just me. I'm sure you went and like scanned a couple of things though. Oh yeah, yeah. You put it like red some things on a wall. Wait, how did I die in this one? I just, this should just be a, like a death monologue, a deaf montage.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Oh yeah, there was this thing where I was like, this was super cool where I was like, oh, I think there's a black hole or something there. Yeah. And of course, intrusive thoughts just, just took over. So jumped in the black hole. I don't even know if I got on the black hole,
Starting point is 00:39:57 so I don't know if it takes you somewhere because as I'm jumping in, I get fucking... This mountain just gets my way. You get annihilated. I die there. Is that the Bramble planet or whatever it is? Yeah, I think that's the Bramble planet.
Starting point is 00:40:12 Yeah, I tried to land on that thing and I just couldn't, so I gave up. Yeah, so... Oh my God. In this game, I love shooting the drone out. Yeah. It's so ominous. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:22 When you send it in to say you can't see and then you see screenshots. Yeah. You're like, oh my fun. It's a really cool. It's a really cool way to like, I guess, unlock the map.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Without risking yourself of dying. Until the areas where the drone can't see anything. And then you're like, well, I have to go in. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to find. There's this one point, point where I'm trying to land it. Oh, where are you going now?
Starting point is 00:40:46 Oh, this, I spent, I actually spend most of my time on the twin planets. Oh, trying to get on there? Or did you get on there? Or did you get on there? Oh, I got on there. Oh, nice, nice. Took a few tries.
Starting point is 00:40:56 So that happened. Whoa. So you lost alignment. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I don't know what happened here. So you have to like, like, match speed. Yeah, match velocity.
Starting point is 00:41:04 So I don't know what happened there. You got hit by another planet. I know, I'm like, I can fix this. Yeah. I can fix this. Does he fix this? Let's find out. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:41:17 We're gonna land on. Locking in. Locking in. There you go. Lock in? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. He's so locked in. Yeah, look, look at me.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Your face is so locked in. Yeah. He's like, I think I say I can fix this. He's like the engineers in Nassah, dude. You got hit by something again. What the fuck hit you? Because I think I say, this is fine. I can fix this.
Starting point is 00:41:40 It, the hole immediately explodes and this is like, and I just get shot out into space. What the fuck? But you, do you have the suit on this time? Yeah, I do. You have the suit on this time. Okay, so you could still land on the planet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Um, I, spoiler alerts, I don't land on the planet. I die again. I forget how I die. Oh, how did you die? Um, oh, you're going way too fast, way too fast. Oh, I'm gonna crash, you're gonna crash. Oh, yeah, okay, so I die there. So I'm like, all right, run it back, run it back.
Starting point is 00:42:10 I can do it this time. No worry, I got it this time. And then, this is, this is... Man, I, I applaud the guts that you have to land on the smallest, the smallest fucking satellites in the system. Yeah. Because I was like, I don't have the confidence to land on this tiny satellite
Starting point is 00:42:26 without fucking up my ship. So that's why I went for the biggest planet. And then this time, I'm like, all right, all right, I got it, overshoot. Oh no, the sun's behind you, God. The sun's behind you gone. And then I'm like, God, God, God! She went into the fucking sun.
Starting point is 00:42:42 Like, yeah. Oh my God. So this was my play-through. It was fucking around. with the control system and just trying to land on the plus of the planet. I mean, that is the first hour or two of the game. It's just trying to kind of figure out,
Starting point is 00:42:57 like, how the fuck does the ship work? So then I finally kind of like figure it out and I do land on the twin planets. Oh, nice. And I explore around a bit, but I just like, I just keep getting lost, right? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Like, some of the planets are reasonably big where I'm not. just trying to pick a direction to go in. Yeah. And I'm like, okay, I discover some things. Oh, cool, cool, cool. Um, I like translate some things and I found out that there's like, there was a crash landing from the, was it the no mass? I can't remember the. Yeah, yeah. Domai. The no ma'i or something like that. Um, and then I spent like 10 minutes getting lost in these caverns down here. Uh, I just, I, I have no idea where I'm going. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, right? They have these caverns down here.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Yeah. And I spend some time getting lost down there. Yeah, I remember these cabins. Yeah, I barely scratched the surface, dude. Yeah, I didn't go on the other planets. And obviously, it sounds like the cavern is filling up with sand. Yeah. Yes, it is.
Starting point is 00:44:05 I also die because I get fucking... Crushed. I get crushed by sand at one point as well. This is just a, this, this play-through was like 100 ways to die, gigac condition. Well, there's no punishment for dying. Like, you just reset, right? Yeah. If you don't lose anything.
Starting point is 00:44:20 I realized early on that this is just full-on re-zero. Yeah. One weird thing that happens was after I die again, I run it back. And I want to see if I can find it. But I try landing on... God, you're going really fast into that thing. Oh. Oh, no, no.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Oh, this tilted me so bad. because... Is that your ship? Huh? Was that your ship floating away? Yes. Because I was looking for something. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:44:57 And there was this hole, right, where you can put this triangle-shaped object in there. And I was just like, what the fuck is this? I'm sure I've got to find an object somewhere. And I find it. It's right there. It is right there. I'm like, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:45:14 I found the object and I know exactly where to put it in. Out of nowhere, out of fucking nowhere, okay, I get transported to the other planet because the sand, this sand portal has just like, that's just transported me to the other twin planet. And I was like, I had the key right there, and then I just got blast, like, ass blasted by sand to the other planets.
Starting point is 00:45:42 So that tilted me. And that's so funny. But yeah, there was one weird phenomenon that I came across. Okay. So near these twin planets, I was like, oh, there's this like weird planets that is, when I scanned it, it was like, it didn't have a name. I was like, oh, I'm going to try landing on it. Cool. And then I'm like, okay, let's try approaching it.
Starting point is 00:46:11 I don't know where it is. Let's try going to approach velocity. We can, I try landing on it. And then it just fucking disappears. And I'm like, what the fuck? Did I just, did I just hallucinate that? A planet disappears. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:26 What? Oh, maybe it maybe it's this one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How's that one? Yeah, is this one? So I'm like, all right, I'm actually locked in. I'm going to get close towards it. I'm going to get close towards it.
Starting point is 00:46:42 All right, all right. Actually, actually just matching my velocity. And I'm like, finally, I am actually going to have one stable landing on a planet. This is it. This is my moment. Well, you're drifting away from it. Yeah, that's, look, this took quite a while, just because of the amount of times I had already crashed my ship. So I'm like, here we go.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Perfect approach velocity. I'm not fucking this one. I'm not fucking this one. Perfect angle. Yeah. Yeah. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:47:15 And then I fall through it. And then it disappears. Was it a gas giant maybe? I couldn't find it again. It just disappeared. Yeah, knowing about the game, it's kind of interesting seeing what you guys have done. Because obviously I have answers for all of these questions. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:36 I won't tell you them. Yeah, because another thing on my planet that I was on, the, the cyclone planet was like, when you'd open up the map, when I died the first time and I went back to the planet and there's like a little mini map or I guess like a journal entry thing of like the things you've discovered on the different planets. Yeah, that's that opens up. That's pretty much the key to the game. Yeah. I saw like, oh, this, there's one planet here that might hold the secrets and also there's something at the bottom of this planet that you have to try and get to. So I was trying to do that. It tells you that. There's like there's something, there's something on the surface that you need to deep dive down to get to. But I just couldn't do it.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Yeah. So I thought like, oh, maybe I don't have like the enough equipment or anything. So I kind of gave up on that. But you, you don't unlock any pieces of equipment. Oh, really. That's why like,
Starting point is 00:48:18 again, like I said in the start, you can technically beat this game in 10 minutes. Right. Wow. It's, because it's like a knowledge-based
Starting point is 00:48:25 game. Yeah. It's all about knowing what the, what the things are. Right, right, right. Because all of this stuff, and that's just so cool
Starting point is 00:48:32 about this game, is everything you guys are like, that was a weird thing. Every single thing that you mentioned has an explanation. Right. And they explain it to you. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:38 And the good thing is that there's the journal in the game, which does, it's the, because obviously these types of games, it's so hard to keep track of all the information. It's like an achievement list, right? Yeah, and it's great because it kind of allows you
Starting point is 00:48:51 to not have to remember every single piece of information. Yeah. But also it's kind of a bad thing because sometimes you were like, I really wish I remembered that one piece of information when I was trying to figure out this next bit. Yeah. Because that would have helped me so much if I didn't just throw it in the back of my mind.
Starting point is 00:49:05 Yeah. There are certain things where even when I was playing it live, I had to get health. Like some things were really hard to figure out. But it's a puzzle game, right? Yeah, no, that's the thing though. It's like, it wasn't until I actually got on that second planet that I was like, oh, this is like a puzzle exploration game.
Starting point is 00:49:21 Because initially, when, you know, when you get like the little scanner thing and you put on the space suit, I saw that HUD and I was like, oh, this is like dead space, isn't it? No, no. I thought it was a horror game. So I was bracing myself. Some of these planets, you know, they are kind of lonely and like, you do feel a bit like uneasy.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Yeah. Yeah. You're like, you're in the cave. and it's filling with sand. That doesn't feel great. No, it really doesn't. I'm not happy about that. Because I was like, I scanned this one message that was like,
Starting point is 00:49:51 oh, to get to the next point, you have to take this path, go left, turn right. And I'm like, bro, I can't fucking remember these directions. Are you kidding me? I'm having trouble looking five feet in front of me. Yeah. So that's why, yeah, that's why I was like, I was, when I said I didn't have that aha moment, I kind of figured out what this game was going to be about. It was like exploration.
Starting point is 00:50:12 And you kind of slowly figure out more of the lore of the world and what's going on as you go along. And that was like, I'm down for that type of game. I was waiting for that moment where I'm like, I figured something out. And unfortunately, I didn't play enough to have that moment organically. Because my entire playthrough was just like, I'm just lost. Figuring out the control. I'm just fucking lost. Am I going the right way?
Starting point is 00:50:40 Is this the right way? There is no right way. You say that. There is no right way. You say that, but there are some points where I think I wasted so much time. I mean, there is certainly ways where you can waste time.
Starting point is 00:50:52 Yeah. Because there are certain, I'll say there are certain areas that like don't offer a lot of helpful information without prerequisite information. Yeah. So I was like, the reason I want to play with this with chat
Starting point is 00:51:03 was not so chat could spoil me. But just so I can like vibe check to be like, hey, chat, am I wasting my time walking in this random ass direction? It's just... I think that's the whole point of the game, though. Yeah, there's no...
Starting point is 00:51:15 There is no random as to action. Every single piece of information you gather, you need to gather, like, every piece. Right. To make sense. Because I, I did actually... When I finished the game, I had all of the log completed
Starting point is 00:51:27 except for, like, one character I just didn't meet somehow. I don't know how. Yeah. And that, without that a piece of information, I lost a little bit of understanding of the whole events. Yeah. Yeah. But...
Starting point is 00:51:39 Yeah, because I very quickly realized at the end of my play-through, I was like, okay, I feel like I've done everything I can on this island. And in order for me to understand more of this planet, I need to go check out the other planets. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Because you, you, it's like, there is no like step one, step two, step three, step seven.
Starting point is 00:51:57 It's like, this puzzle has nine pieces and not all the pieces on the planet. Not all the pieces will see anything until you have at least four. Yeah. You can start to kind of be like, oh, I think I understand what I'm kind of trying to find. Yeah. And that's like the part where I felt like that's when the game gets really interesting. Because there'll be a point in the game where you start to kind of understand what's happening. And I feel like that's when it like clicks.
Starting point is 00:52:22 And you're like, okay, this is really cool. How long does it take for before you felt that? I'd say about four hours in is when I started to kind of be like, I think I've, I'm, I think I understand what's happening. Right. How long did it take the beat? 16. God damn.
Starting point is 00:52:36 It's a long game. Yeah. I could tell, yeah. You. There's no. fast travel. There's no fast travel. And there are certain, there are some frustrating parts where you're like, I need to get to this planet, but some maybe the one or two planets. I mean, you can probably figure out which planets are dangerous by the look of them. Yeah. You can, yeah,
Starting point is 00:52:54 the bramble isn't the most inviting. I saw the bramble planet. I was just like, oh, hell, no, I ain't going there. Yeah. Some planets are not the most inviting. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I think I went to to, like, the two worst planets that you could possibly go to. Did you go to the bramble? I went to the bramble. I mean, the bramble just looks fucking terrifying. And it is. Yeah. I try to, I tried and I couldn't. That's the one where I was like, I was chilling. I was like, okay, I've crashed landed on here. What's the worst I could happen?
Starting point is 00:53:18 Immediately a meteor just fucking strikes the planet. I'm like, oh, meteor strikes on some planets? Yeah, I don't even remember that. Yeah, because I found this logged out. He was that some guy was like, I'm gonna go off from the trail. Hopefully I don't get ass blasted by some meteors or something.
Starting point is 00:53:34 And he gets ass blasted by some videos. Yeah. Hell yeah. I think what's, there's a, there's a, a really core aspect of the game that will really change how you view it. And it will click. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:48 The more you play. No, I definitely want to keep playing this game. It was a lot of fun. Really important to keep playing. But this is like one of the greatest games ever played. Yeah. No, good recommendation.
Starting point is 00:53:59 And I hope that you boys get to finish it. Yeah. Because I don't want to spoil it. I don't want to talk about this too much because, yeah, I don't want to get spoiled on it. Yeah, yeah. I even like this conversation here,
Starting point is 00:54:10 I feel like if you haven't played it, is like, spoilers still. Because I'm like, you know, you shouldn't know what the fuck any of these things are. Yeah. Yeah. But you know, the game has a subtle ways of somewhat trying to guide you as well. Yeah. Normally, you know, games are like, hey, maybe you shouldn't go to the bramble place right
Starting point is 00:54:24 you know what I mean? Like, you can. Like, and then you will learn things. Yeah. But the game is trying to be like, hey, I see you having a bit of difficult to do that. Maybe try somewhere else. Take a few steps back. I guess that was right.
Starting point is 00:54:35 I guess that was what I was missing. Yeah. Because you don't like fucking Eldon Ring or something where they have like, you know, you can't, whatever you want, but here's like a subtle nudge in the right direction. And I kept, I kept thinking throughout my first, like, hour of playthrough. I was like, I don't think this is where they intended for me to go first, but I don't know where first is, you know, but there's no correct first place,
Starting point is 00:54:58 like I said. Yeah, but more beginner friendly, you know, I would say. Yeah, that's why I went for the largest planet, because I was like, that seems like the easiest to land. And it was. See, I went to the closest planet, and the closest planet was just, just the most hostile player. I went to,
Starting point is 00:55:13 because the game gives you the radio scanner. Yeah. I think I just went to one that I found a radio signal. I think they all emit a radio signal. Yeah, I think I just went to the closest one that had a radio signal. Yeah, fair enough. But it's, yeah, there'll be a point in this game where I think you'll, it'll go from you're like, that's kind of cool to like, oh, this game's peak.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Yeah. Like, there'll be like a couple of things that happen that I think you'll, like, and I guess what, What's crazy is that like I said, you could beat the game 50 minutes. All of this is right under your nose the entire time. And then that's what's so cool is that like it's such an amazing game at showing you everything. But just because you see so many things, you can't actually understand anything that's happening. Right. And then as you start to understand, all of the things start to line up and you're like, yo, that's actually so cool.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Yeah, I love stories like that. And I think I've never seen a game do it this well. All right. Okay. And one of the fun, just tidbit of information, when you're controlling your player, you're actually moving all of the world around you. This is the way that's coded. Oh.
Starting point is 00:56:18 It's just funny. That's just funny. You're moving the entire galaxy and you're standing still. Oh, cool. That's why I sucked. Yeah. I think that's just funny if you're so information. But yeah, no, it's really, really cool.
Starting point is 00:56:31 There's some puzzles that I know, based on what you guys have expressed to me in the past, like, certain, like, universe and physics stuff. Yeah. I think you will like even more than I liked. Okay, okay. There's some really, really cool concepts. I do like my astrophysics. And if, yeah, if you like astrophysics or like deep, like theoretical physics,
Starting point is 00:56:50 there's puzzles that literally involve like theoretical physics. Oh, shit. I'm all in. I'm all in. Like, present it in a really fucking fun way. Hell yeah. I think once I get wrap my head around the control system of this. Yeah, clearly, we're using keyboard and mouse?
Starting point is 00:57:03 No, I was using controller. Yeah, controller, I think is really good for this. Yeah, I mean, the game tells you. I think I was just like impatient. The amount of times, the amount of time, like, I remember there's one, I remember there's one moment where I'm like, oh, there's a signal, there's a signal up there and I'm going to, oh, I can just jetpack to it. The amount of times I try to get somewhere and I overshoot and I just like fly off the fucking face the planet. Well, you know, there's autopilot, right?
Starting point is 00:57:25 No, this is like me in the jetpack. Oh, jetpack. I use, no, maybe there isn't. No, there's just match velocity. Yeah. Oh, no, I don't know. My, my, my playthrough is so cursed. I was like, I need chat right now to help me. I don't know if I can find But yeah, I'm glad I went into the zero G cave because I probably would have struggled as well. Yeah, there's, because I was struggling in the zero. And that's not a spoiler. Yeah, there's literally a cave on the island.
Starting point is 00:57:46 We're like, you should go and check out the zero G cave to practice. Yeah. Trial by flyer. But yeah, I definitely want to keep playing this game. Yeah. I think you should. Yeah. Because I think you, you, you both will really fucking like this game if you finish it.
Starting point is 00:58:02 I think it's, um, it's hard to appreciate it right now. But, um, for sure. If you guys enjoyed your time right now, I think you will only fall in love the more you play. Like I said. It's a great game to play, I think two hours every day for like a week or two and just chip away at it. Yeah. I played it all in one go in 16 hours. And by hour 14, I think my brain was fried.
Starting point is 00:58:25 And there's a couple of like really tough things to figure out near the end that I was like, fuck, can someone just tell me? I literally ask, like, can you just tell me what I'm supposed to do? Because I genuinely can't figure this one out. And I literally had them being like, go here. All right. I couldn't figure it out. Fair enough. So, um...
Starting point is 00:58:39 But scanning all the stuff is so cool. Yeah. And, you know, figuring out all the information about... Did you do the hide-and-seek minig? Yeah, I did that. I did the hide-and-seek mini game. What's the hide-and-seek mini game? It's just a tutorial for the...
Starting point is 00:58:54 How do you use a sequel to the receiver? There's like two kids on the home planet. Oh, oh. Yeah. Yeah, there's two kids on the home planets and they're like, let's go play hard and seek. We, and it's just teaching you are to do the single thing. But no, yeah, like I said, if the, if the aha moment for you didn't come four hours in. No. That makes me feel less dumb. Oh yeah. No, no, no. I think it was nice to have
Starting point is 00:59:14 chat there because I was getting the same thing where I was like, I feel like I'm just missing everything or I'm doing everything wrong. Yeah. Everyone was like, no, no, keep going. Just like keep going. And you will, it'll, like, it's genius how they've kind of done it. Like, you will just, it will just click. Like, you have to just keep trying. Yeah. Whether that's four or eight hours, depends how much you fuck around. But, you know, I enjoyed like, I try to, go into the Bramble planet like 15 times. Because I just wanted to. Did you keep dying? Yeah, I just kept dying.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Because it's really fucking hard to figure out. Yeah. But yeah, and there's some, you know, and you, you came across something really interesting that when you finally realize what it is. So I got hints. I didn't want to tell Joey's in the thing, but I got hints because I, I explored enough that they, I found like the them documents, the transporting planets. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:07 So I don't know what it is, but I definitely got hints about it. And it was just by pure coincidence that I tried landing on it as well. Yeah, I mean, yeah, you found that out, which is like crazy. Yeah. And that's not something I found out until I was playing like 12 hours, 10 hours. Oh, really? Yeah. It's just coincidence.
Starting point is 01:00:28 It's just what you run into. Yeah. But it's like every piece is building the puzzle. It's just like, you know, genuinely think of a puzzle frame, you know, like you just put a piece here. You might find that piece one hour in. I might find it right near the end. Yeah. And that might be like my final thing to be like, oh.
Starting point is 01:00:44 But everything's connected. And everything starts to make sense. And everything like comes together in a really nice way. And I've never been so satisfied by everything. Everything like clicks nicely. Okay. And nothing is left unexplained. Nice.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Well, I'm definitely going to play the rest of it. Two good recommendations on this month's anime club. Who's picking what we do next time? go back to gone. I think it's back to me. What are we doing, gone? What do you want time to think?
Starting point is 01:01:11 Shit. What do I wanna do? I didn't even think about this one. I didn't think last time either and I was like, out of whilst. Yeah, it can be something just like casual that you recommend as well. But by the way, while gone is thinking about that. I am not going to recommend an anime this time.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Oh. I'm going to recommend a game, I think, since I'll leave anime club to you guys. Yep. Guys recommend the most trashy thing. You guys can do that over on the Patreon, by the way. Yes. slash trash taste for the next month anime recommendation. I want you guys to play Fury.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Oh. Oh, I've always wanted to play Fury. Yeah, I was saying. Yeah. I think I might have played Fury for like 30 minutes once, but it's a really long time ago, so I'm down to play again. It's one of my favorite games of all time.
Starting point is 01:01:55 It's like the skill-based game, right? Yes. Okay, yes, I know that. Yes, okay. I might struggle. I've seen footage of it, and I'm like, I feel like I'm going to struggle with this game. It is a boss rush game.
Starting point is 01:02:07 I fucking love this game. This game's so hard. Great. It is a boss rush game. Actually shoot them up. It's a... Do you know what? I'm not going to say anything.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Yeah, yeah. I'll play it. How long to beat? Obviously, it's a get good tacky game. Yeah. I'm just curious because if it's... It's actually a really short game. Oh, five and a half hours.
Starting point is 01:02:26 I'll probably just play all of it. Yeah. All right. You can stream it if you want. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I'll just stream it. All right. It's a very short game,
Starting point is 01:02:33 but every single hour is 10 out and banger. Okay. Hell yeah. Cinema. Absolute cinema. Okay. Well, we have decided that for Trash Taste Boys' next pick. But again, as we said, over on the Patreon,
Starting point is 01:02:47 you guys can recommend what we are going to watch next. Preferably anime, because it is called Anime Club. Yeah, give us an anime. Yeah, if you want to send in your suggestions, then you can do that over on Patreon, Patreon. Patreon.com slash Tash Tase. I just recently played Metal Gear Solid the first time. The first one.
Starting point is 01:03:03 The one on PS2. There is no PS2 1 PS1 PS1, PS1, sorry, PS1, PS1, the original one on the game he remake? The first Metal Gear Solid.
Starting point is 01:03:15 Yeah, the yes, the original one. Because I know that there was ones on S, SNES, but that was, no, NES, that was just Metal Gear, right? That's Metal Gear, yeah, Metal Gear Solid, I played. But the modern Metal Gear solids started with the PS1 version. Fuck yeah, man, finally.
Starting point is 01:03:30 That's a great game. You guys both played it? I've played it, yeah. Of course. Metal Gear is one of my favorite game series. It held up so well. Yeah. Like, everything about that game was just really fun to do. Like, everything was, like, clean.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Gameplay was absolutely solid still. Did you stream it? I did. Yeah, I streamed, like, the whole thing in one go. It's, like, pretty insane, like, that game was made for its time because it's really ahead of its time. Dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:52 It's insane. And the amount of cut scenes as well. Yeah. It is just, like, the beginning of his movies. Yeah. I love. I was just built diff. I love the cut scenes and the codec calls.
Starting point is 01:04:01 I don't know. Oh, the codec. Colonel. Artic. Like, one of the big criticisms against the whole Metal Gear Solid series is just the length of the cutscenes. I don't mind. It's great. And I was like, this shit is like watching a movie, man.
Starting point is 01:04:18 I love this shit. It's so good. This is where I was like, I found out that people like to skip cutscenes and I was like, nah, I'm watching all of this shit, man. I mean, I understand there are some cutscenes that were like taking the piss. Like, obviously, it's a nearly 30-year-old game. I don't mind if I spoil things. I feel like it's up to you now.
Starting point is 01:04:38 Yeah. So I'm going to spoil. I'm going to spoil things. I think that's fair. The same way you can spoil medical side of the two for me, which I haven't played yet, but I'm going to try and dodge it no matter what. Dodger spoilers,
Starting point is 01:04:49 not the game. Like the fucking the villain speeches with his brother Liquid Snake. Oh. When he's fucking talking, his speeches are so ridiculous in so long. He's like, 1941, the beginning of the program. It's like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 01:05:03 He's like reading off a Wikipedia page. He reads off where he's like, Baghdad, 1917. You're like, what the fuck is going on? Liquid Snake? What are you talking about? And every character is so ridiculous. It's just so good. And it's so campy.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Yeah. Like, everything about it is so ridiculous. I love the campiness of it. Yeah. And yeah, just, just, it's so ridiculous. Oh, yeah. If you like the first one, you're going to love the rest of them. Yeah, the first one is actually, like, thinking back,
Starting point is 01:05:34 People say one through three are all amazing. They are. They are. I liked four. Snake Eater was probably my favorite. Two? Three is my favorite. Yeah, three.
Starting point is 01:05:45 Two is just behind there. Two, I didn't enjoy or appreciate as much when I was growing up. But I replayed it and I was like, holy shit, this is peak. Because two, without spoiling, goes through some Evangelion levels of convoluted. I mean, he kind of does that a little bit more, but I can imagine, well, like, I've seen, I've seen what he does in his later games. I've seen two cutscenes of death stranding. I'm like, this is, like, this is a man who clearly has, like,
Starting point is 01:06:18 insane ideas and expresses them sometimes in, like, that's what I love about it. Like, some of the cut scenes were just really stupid and, like, really dumb. I don't know if it was intentional or not. Sometimes it feels like it was. Sometimes it felt like it was unintentionally stupid. Yeah. But I like the ideas. Like, the ideas were,
Starting point is 01:06:34 So here's what I think happened, right? You have Metal Gear Solid one, which is a nice, you know, mix between the campiness, the action. It's pretty campy. The campiness, the action, and some convoluted stuff in it. And then it was a massive success. So Konami were like, you know what? Kajima, you're a fucking genius.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Do whatever the fuck you want comes out with Metagia Solid too. He goes fucking wild. Yeah. I believe it. This is when the Kajima isms really fucking come out. This is where he's just like, okay, I'm going to break all limiters.
Starting point is 01:07:13 I'm going to do what I want. And I'm not going to spoil some of the stuff that he. Well, doesn't it? Yeah, how much you know about Metal Gear Sold a two? Nothing. Oh, well,
Starting point is 01:07:22 I know that like the Metal Gear Sold one, it ends. And then it's like, it like ends with a call from the fucking president. And he's like, I'm one of the liquid snakes. And I'm like, What the fuck is this game?
Starting point is 01:07:36 Where it's like, what is this? Like, I'm gas snake. Like, what is this? Solidus, actually. Yeah, yeah, that's it. Solidus. Solidus snake. Yes, Mr. President.
Starting point is 01:07:48 And it's like, what is this? But like every single thing, every time you think like this game is dumb, it gets dumber. Oh, yeah. And then you're like absolute cinema. It's just so funny. It's so stupid. And it never takes itself too seriously.
Starting point is 01:08:03 But it's so epic. But it just takes itself so. So it's just so fun. Yeah. So then Metal Gear Solid 2 comes along. And he makes a very bold creative decision with Metal Gear Solid 2. Don't tell me. I'm not going to tell you, but it is a very bold creative decision that was very, very controversial, right?
Starting point is 01:08:30 That was very, very controversial. Gojima went woke. I'm kidding, no kidding. Snake's gay now. And initially when I first played this, I was like, what the fuck is this shit? But now that I'm growing up,
Starting point is 01:08:47 I'm like, yo, this, Melo gets a lot of two fucking slaps because they had some wild ideas. By the way, every character feels extremely like by and gay in this thing.
Starting point is 01:08:57 Oh, yeah. Oh, you ain't seen any. I just say, everyone feels very gay. Everyone is DTF. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:04 We'd fucking Odicon and Snake ride off into the sunset and they're like, oh, my name's David. Call me David. I think I might. There's so much sexual tension between literally everyone. Yeah. Like, anyway, carry on. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:09:17 But yeah, but he like, he just goes fucking wild. Limiters are off. He goes, I can't wait. I can't wait. And then I think, Konami saw that and you, and they were like,
Starting point is 01:09:28 Yo, Kajima, can you, uh, chill the fuck out? You just chill the fuck out a little bit. You just, just chill. All right. And so Medigate Solid 3 comes along. And that's when it's like, all right, let's just go balls deep in the campiness for this. Yeah. Let's go balls deep in the action campiness of this. Unless on the balls to the walls weird. Like conceptually weird. Experimental conceptual ideas. And I think overall, Middle Gear Solid 3 is my favorite overall package just because it is that perfect level. It's the perfect. It's the perfect. balance, right? It feels like an 80, a 80s
Starting point is 01:10:08 action epic, you know? And it's, it's fucking perfect. Metal Gets Solid 2, now that I'm not 15 anymore, whenever however old I was when I first played it, now that I'm not that age anymore, I'm like, damn, this is weird, but just the right
Starting point is 01:10:26 mix of weird. This game's hard as well. There's some moments in it that were genuinely really difficult. I haven't played it probably since I was in like high school. So I don't, a couple moments where I ran out of like, uh,
Starting point is 01:10:38 rations. Oh yeah? Oh yeah. Yeah. And I was like, this is fucked. Um, yeah. So how much did you know about it in terms of like,
Starting point is 01:10:47 zero? So in terms of some of the ways you have to progress the story? Uh, yeah. Well, the one good thing is that I think I learned pretty quickly. There's some moments obviously where I'm trying to just bash my head against the wall. But like generally speaking, um,
Starting point is 01:11:03 the, you can just call up. guys and they'll kind of help you. Like I was fighting Psycho Mantis. I couldn't figure out what the gimmick was to beat Psycho Mantis. And then Colonel literally calls me up. He's like, Snake, you have to plug your controller in the other port. Yeah. And I was like, okay.
Starting point is 01:11:20 I was like, how the fuck do I do that? I'm on PC. And then there's literally a, you can press a menu and then you can click where your slot is in. Oh, is that how that you can try. No, it doesn't hit the same. No, it doesn't. Because I remember as a kid, I'm like, no way. God, I remember, yeah, I was like, yeah, like maybe 15, 16 when I was trying for the Psychomantus fight and they were just, you know, because I was playing on, on actual
Starting point is 01:11:42 hardware and just the most, every kid had this the first time they fought Psychomantus where it was just like, you've been playing Mario Sunshine, haven't you? I'm like, what? How did he know? Well, yeah, I, unfortunately, I didn't have it, it doesn't, it doesn't, it doesn't, my saves. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you've played nothing. I'm like, well, but yeah, it would be kind of long if you had to read my Steam library.
Starting point is 01:12:04 I mean, I can still appreciate how cool that was. I still couldn't figure out what the fuck to do. And chat wasn't spoiling for me. They were all good. Oh, that's good. They were all very good enough. The other big moment was when you have to call Merrill. Yeah, I luckily, I'd seen that for some reason,
Starting point is 01:12:20 there was a game menu included. And I, yeah, I'd known, because I knew a lot of, like, gaming history, I knew that, I knew Metal Gear Sold 1, specifically had a lot of weird stuff with the manual and with, like, interesting ways to beat bosses. So I didn't know there was a couple of things where I had to look at the manual. Yeah. So I figured out with that one
Starting point is 01:12:37 to look at the back of the manual. Yeah. And yeah, I will say that there's moments like this in Melga Solid 2 as well that just completely fucks with your brain. I'm so excited. I can't work to play. And they are less known
Starting point is 01:12:49 than I think Metal Gear Solid 1 because, yeah, there are some moments that bent my fucking mind in Metal Gear Solid 2, which is what I really appreciated about it. I just love how the game opens up and you're in like a fucking submarine. And it goes, you are solid snake. You need to get rid of the five.
Starting point is 01:13:03 people in this big base or they will die in five days. Your mission is to go. You need to get your own weapons when you get. It's like, oh my God. Like this is ridiculous. It's like no bullshit. It's like five minutes of just pure like letting you know you're like the most insane plot you ever heard. And then I then you can click to go through all the briefings if you want to learn a way more, which is really fun as well. Going through these briefings where snakes like naked in a room and they're like, yeah. Yeah. You need to learn about this guy. That's all right. It's just so funny because every every four minutes in this game, they're like, he was double-crossing you,
Starting point is 01:13:37 except he was double-crossing his double-crosser who double-crossed you? And you're like, what the fuck is it going? I never replayed it, man. It's so good. Yeah, it's such a good game. So you said you ended up with Audocon. Well, so I ended up with Merrill.
Starting point is 01:13:51 Okay. And then chat, obviously, they were like, you have to watch the cutscene for Oticon. Yeah. Please watch, and I loved Otocon because he was really funny. When he gets introduced, he's like, I'm called Otocan, because I'm an otaku,
Starting point is 01:14:02 and I like anime and conventions. And I was like, okay. Like, based. Oh my God, it's just like my favorite anime. I guess if I was watching this in 1998 when it came out, I would probably be like,
Starting point is 01:14:13 the fuck is an otaku. You know, I would be like, the fuck is that. I'm like, okay, he likes anime. All right,
Starting point is 01:14:18 sure, all right, sure. He probably got so many people into anime. Probably, through that. Like,
Starting point is 01:14:24 because I'm sure I would have been like, the fuck is anime. That sounds sick. I don't know about that. I don't know about that because he, I mean, Oticon, I remember he starts, doesn't he start the fuck? He pisses himself. Yeah, he starts, yeah, he starts his journey by pissing himself. But he points at like mex and shit. I'm sure I'd be
Starting point is 01:14:40 like, though, that's sick. What is that? Can I watch that? I'd be Googling it. True. What animas did Odecon have on his mouth? I, I still haven't played Death Stranding, but I've seen so much about it and... I've heard it's amazing. Yeah, I've heard it's amazing. I don't know, do you know a single person who's actually played it? Yeah, Maus just played it. Oh, Navi's played it. Oh, Navi's played it? Yeah, Moust just finished it. Yeah, that's what I've heard.
Starting point is 01:15:04 So yeah, it genuinely has. It's just a move, it's a playable movie. Well, the last cut scene is two hours long. Yeah, I've heard that. It genuinely is two hours long. Yeah, that's not a meme, it is. It just, yeah, I've looked at like pictures and I've heard things from about death stranding
Starting point is 01:15:17 and I want to kind of give it a go. Did you say, this article that came about, and it was like, so apparently the second one's coming out, like, by the time it's out, it's already out, but it's coming out, but it's coming out, but it's coming out, Yeah. And apparently there was an article
Starting point is 01:15:31 where Kojima was like, yeah, people were saying it was too fun so I had to change it. And I'm like, what the fuck, Kojima? That's a good thing. That's a good thing. Nobody tell Kajima that this is a good thing.
Starting point is 01:15:45 Everyone tell Kajima that his games suck and he'll make better and better and better games. Yeah, he took it like, he's like, it's fun? Fuck you. You're not having fun with this. Yeah, I've just heard, see, like, again, this is like, I know very little about death training because I've promised myself
Starting point is 01:16:00 that I will eventually play it and I want to go into it as blind as possible. But I've just heard it's like walking simulator. Well, yeah, there's a lot of walking in it. I mean, I think it's a, the one thing that Kojima does, or like the one thing I feel like he does, that he gives you an experience.
Starting point is 01:16:14 Yeah. And it's not always what you want. Right. I think like that's where you, and I think if you are willing to just get a Kojima experience, you're gonna have fun. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:16:22 But I think, yeah, there is a lot of walking in it. So if you're looking for like a... It's like a slow burner game, right? For sure. It's a long game. It's like a 40 or 50-hour game. Can we look at how long to beat? How long to beat I found actually is,
Starting point is 01:16:35 it's pretty accurate. It's pretty accurate, yeah. I have been basing all of my streams on the how long to beat. I'd say I'm always within like two to three hours of like Final Fantasy, it's nearly always been spot on. Metal Gear, it was like an hour off.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Yeah. And it's normally give a take. So like I'd say that's pretty accurate. Yeah, yeah, for sure. But that's 40 hours a long fucking time. Ah, short JRPG. Shortest persona romance scene. Yeah, legit.
Starting point is 01:17:03 I didn't even think you can get halfway in a persona game in 40 hours. I saw a fucking meme that was like a guy on like those oil rigs. You know where they're covered in dirt? Yeah. They're like clamping on. They're like persona players getting through the dungeons so they can get a one minute romance scene. Legit. They're on the oil rig.
Starting point is 01:17:22 It's all worth it. I'm doing it for her. It is though. It is worth it. It is literally that. I've also been, I don't know if you guys ever played this. I've been replaying Xcom. You ever play?
Starting point is 01:17:35 I know the name. You replay Xcom? I've never played Xcom. Oh my God. It's so good. Xcom 2 specifically I've been playing. This game is fucking peak. It came out 2015.
Starting point is 01:17:46 2012, it said it came out. Oh, yeah. 2012. So they released a DLC that is basically a remake. I'm sorry, the foest game is 2012. Excuse me. Yes, yes. Sorry, so this came in 2015.
Starting point is 01:17:56 Then they released a DLC. that was basically the main campaign, but remade, slightly better. Okay, so fucking good. Right, right, right. And you guys are in my little playthrough. I've been doing this thing where I got all the streamers
Starting point is 01:18:09 and friends in the game. How so? Oh, is that the form? Yes, the format. I was like, how is this working? Oh, okay. So if you go on images of XCOM too, maybe you can see the soldiers.
Starting point is 01:18:23 Basically, like, there's these custom soldiers and you can, like, mod in your own soldiers. Maybe type of an ex-com-2 soldiers. What kind of game is this? It is a strategy game. Okay. So you move soldiers. It is basically space Fire Emblem.
Starting point is 01:18:34 Right. So, like, you can see, like, that's how the soldiers look. You can customize them how they look and the nationality. Right. And they're class and stuff. So you guys are all, like, you know, kidded out and stuff. Yeah. I think I put my name as, like, hentai boy in the game.
Starting point is 01:18:47 You're a hentai boy. And the thing that's interesting about this game is, like, like Fire Emblem, but maybe a bit unlike Fireland, Your characters just will die. Right. Because this game is just so fucking hard. Is it a Permadeth? Permadeth? Yeah. Permadeth.
Starting point is 01:19:02 So you can play without Permadeth on, but that's not really how the game's meant to be played. Yeah. And the whole fun of the game is getting attached to like these characters. Yeah, for sure. And man, I don't think I've had so much fun with the game ever. Like this has been such a fucking fun game.
Starting point is 01:19:17 And especially having, you know, having all your friends in the game. It's been so fun because I'm so, like, attached to, like, not letting you die. Are you both? Okay, so right now I'm recording this, I haven't finished it. I'm still like 35 hours in or something. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:30 You both are still alive. Sick. So who's dead? I have a website. If you type in Xcom, Xcom. Xcom. Cdog VA,
Starting point is 01:19:38 and it shows you when everyone died, I think. If you go, maybe go to the VOD, maybe it's in the comment section. She paused it. Is it in the comment section? It's not.
Starting point is 01:19:54 Okay, Let me send you the link real quick. Sorry, sorry. He should put it in the Vod. Then we can show you how everyone... Are you in a fucking captain's outfit? I am. I bought a Japanese Navy costume.
Starting point is 01:20:09 Oh, my God. Because I'm the commander. Oh, fair enough. Did it have to be Japanese? On Japanese Amazon, it was either that or Nazi uniforms. So which one do I pick, Joey? Yeah. Because I was about to say, like, you should be careful of what era uniform.
Starting point is 01:20:27 Yeah, yeah. I got one that was generic. Okay, good, good, good. Okay, I send it to you, Kai. Online, I think. And we built, like, a little website that keeps track. So every mission you survive, you more money to charity. Oh, cool, cool, cool.
Starting point is 01:20:41 With, like, bonuses if you reach certain emissions. It's just really hard because basically there's, like, it's this thing that'll happen that will be fog of war, and you'll move your troops, and then suddenly you'll trigger a pack of enemies. Yeah. And generally it takes two hits to kill a character, your characters, you control.
Starting point is 01:20:58 And so these are all the streamers I have. And you can see those are the ones that are alive. So the hearts are like health? Hearts are how many? So because a lot of characters die. Right. I have to, I started reusing people.
Starting point is 01:21:11 Oh, okay, okay. So certain people have two lives. Ludwigs died once. He's alive. Chris died once. No, you are alive still. That's your first life. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:21:21 Chris has two. Chris has died. Two Chris and they're both alive. It's so annoying. Some of these are wrong. So scroll down, you can see who I've got killed. Fall and all captured. I've killed Pete twice.
Starting point is 01:21:33 Some people have died. Some people have been captured and, yeah, it's pretty rough. Mouse is M-I-A. Yeah, mouse was captured. Oh, I got. And I lost her. So, and I haven't seen her since. Because I, what's cool is it like,
Starting point is 01:21:46 what's not cool is fucking annoying. Some of the enemies can mind-control your units. Oh, okay. I had a really disastrous run where I was trying to do a really important mission. And I lost half my members right away. Right. And then Mouse got mind controlled and killed Felix and Cahoe. And then I lost the mission, but Mouse was still alive.
Starting point is 01:22:06 Right. Mind controlled. So you can actually save her later on. Oh, okay. They'll just be a mission that's like, save Lieutenant Iron Mouse. Oh, cool, cool, cool. But it's just like these, you're trying to like push against these aliens and trying to do these things. It's just really fun because it's so challenging.
Starting point is 01:22:20 and very stressful. Because even if you get shot, but don't die, like if Gantt gets shot, he will, I will not be able to use Gant for like the next five missions because he's healing.
Starting point is 01:22:31 Oh, I see. And there's also like sanity. So the more you use a character if they don't get hurt, they'll get too tired and go insane. You have to let them have a break. Right, right. So it's really hard juggling
Starting point is 01:22:43 and then people just keep dying because it's unavoidable. Yeah. Because occasionally you'll be in it and you'll be like, this is going pretty well. And then literally like, a fucking final boss will spawn right behind your units
Starting point is 01:22:53 and one shot someone. Right. He'd be like, fuck, what do I do? And it went from being like at a good position to like, I've got to bail now. I've got to get the fuck out. Yeah. And the other famous thing about this game
Starting point is 01:23:05 is that when you, like in Firearmler, right? You can see like, I can hit this guy for three. Yeah. In XCOM, it's like, you're behind cover and he's behind cover. It'll say you have a 72% chance of hitting him. A Fireblin has that as well. But you don't know what the damage is as well.
Starting point is 01:23:19 So like the famous thing about this game is that the odds are like, if it's like 90% it's just going to miss. It just, it just miss it. And then like you might be fucked. Because sometimes you might have to like run right up to them because you need it to hit and if it misses your dad. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:23:34 And then you're in like big, big trouble. Right. So it's just really fun because it's really challenging. And I've been having a lot of fun. And I can't wait to see if I've finished this campaign and all. No, I'll hop on my live by the end of it. What's surprising is that you have been near death like 15 times. and you somehow keep surviving.
Starting point is 01:23:51 That's mean, real one time you were killed, but you were just bleeding out, which is like a mechanic in the game, where occasionally when your unit dies, normally they die, but there's like a 10% chance they'll bleed out where you have four turns to pick them up and evacuate.
Starting point is 01:24:04 Right. But the issue with evacuating is that you have to get them, and that takes a whole action, and then you have to get out, and then you lose that person who's carrying them. I just really want to recreate that meme of the manlios to bleed out here.
Starting point is 01:24:16 You're doing that, like every mission. Like, oh, every, every, because you're, you're playing the close quarters. Yeah. Thing. So every, you have to like get right next to them and then obviously you get targeted. All right, right. So you're just, you're dying. Gant's playing the, the, the guy who never gets seen, the sniper.
Starting point is 01:24:32 So there's, there's, in the, in the remake of the main DLC, they introduced these, super soldiers and Gant's one of them. Oh, sick. So you get like three of them at a time. So Gant's one of the ones. Great. So Gantz gets the fucking, you, you, you can go die. You can go die.
Starting point is 01:24:47 Like, just go on. Well, what's funny is that because I had like, basically what ends of happening is that in this game, you get so attached to like your main five dudes. Yeah. Because when the more they survive missions and level up, the more OPE they get. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 01:25:02 And so like, you'll have a guy, like Pete for my longest time was my go. Yeah. He was like, he had, he was so jacked out with stats. He would literally solo carry missions. Yeah. And I accidentally put him in the wrong spot one time and he got killed in one turn.
Starting point is 01:25:15 By two, like, grunt. Like generic unit. It's like, that's the worst part is that this game is so terrifying because they will spawn the mother of all enemies. But sometimes you just die to like the fucking basic losers who just hit a shot.
Starting point is 01:25:28 I mean, that's very Fire Emblem coded as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like if you like Fire Emblem at all, you will love this game because I felt like this was Fire Emblem but 15 times more stressful. Okay, okay. I might give it a go because I love Fire Emble.
Starting point is 01:25:40 And it's great because it's like super casual at the same time where like, I am playing it for long hours, but it's kind of nice to just... How long's the campaign? Um, it's about, I think, like 35 hours. Oh, okay. So it's pretty long.
Starting point is 01:25:52 And someone made a mod, the modding scene for it's still very active. And someone made a, it's called the long version. And it's like 70 hours. Oh, damn. Wait, how, why is it the long version? I guess because people, people still play this game a lot. And it's still got a pretty big player base. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:07 What does they do to extend it? I'm not sure. Just add more missions, maybe? I think add more missions get less rewards for each mission. Right, right, right. And I'm not even playing it on the hardest mode. I'm playing on like the medium difficulty and it's still fucked.
Starting point is 01:26:19 Yeah, I'm having a hard time. Fair enough. And it's just so fun. It's so fun playing it with your friends with the characters because whenever they do something that's like so coded, you're like, that checks out. Like Pete was my goat,
Starting point is 01:26:31 but Pete had the lowest sanity. So he could only do two missions where he's like, I'm tired, man, I'm out. And I just felt so right. Meanwhile, Chris is a sniper on both of his lives and he can never fucking hit a shot. It sounds like Chris.
Starting point is 01:26:44 Yeah, it's so ridiculous. And Gant, I feel like would be the guy who gets to, so Gant's, your power is that, like, you can basically, like, never be seen unless I, like, really fuck up. Yeah. It's, like, impossible to get, like, so you go ahead and, like.
Starting point is 01:26:57 So I'm just chilling. I'm camping. Yeah, camping in the back. Yeah. Well, what's so cool is that, like, there was a point in the, so there's this countdown that's kind of happening where, like, the enemy is progressing in technology.
Starting point is 01:27:09 So as the game goes on, you start really fucking weak. But the enemies also get stronger, too. So you kind of need to be, making progress. Otherwise, you get to the point where the enemies are so fucking strong and you're so weak that you just can't do anything. And they're working on like a super weapon that when they finished it, you lose. And you can do certain things to push back the timer. And there was one point where I had like two days left, which is like nothing. And I needed this one mission to succeed.
Starting point is 01:27:34 And it was literally all up to Gahn. Like could Gunt sneak in, plant the bomb and get out. And he did it. He saved everything. And it was so fucking hype. Because I was like, this is 30 hours. down the drain. If God dies here. If God fucks up, we're out. So you're playing until you win or lose the campaign. Yeah, I should. If things go well,
Starting point is 01:27:55 I should be able to finish it in about 10 hours, I think. Okay. I flound it a lot and messed up a couple of things, and I take my time on the missions. So it takes a long time. It's not a game that you want to make rash decisions. Well, no, that's no turn-based strategy.
Starting point is 01:28:12 Yeah. But like, it's like, I can't remember the five. There's firearms as well. But there's like short moves and long moves. In short moves, you can still do like an action, like shoot or guard. Depends on the character and class. So all the characters kind of have the same mobility, I think, where you can go the same
Starting point is 01:28:29 map, but you can go long distances where you can't do anything once you get there. Yeah. And it's really risky. So more often than not, you often move people short distances and keep them in like ready to fire mode. Yeah. But what ends up happening is that occasionally during the missions, they'll be like, the objective is on the other side of the map.
Starting point is 01:28:45 And they're like, Colonel, you've got five turns till the bomb explodes. And you're like, fuck, fuck, fuck. And then there's enemies on either side. So now you have to send someone in, which then ends up, people start getting killed and damaged.
Starting point is 01:28:58 And then now you have to even decide, like, is it even worth continuing? Because you can evak. Right. You can get people out. Right, right. But it only does like a small area. So you need to get everyone to the same spot
Starting point is 01:29:08 to get them out. Right. So it's also like, it's very, it's very dicey. Like in retreat. It's so stressful. And I've been playing 30 hours and they still keep introducing new enemies.
Starting point is 01:29:20 And some of these enemies are fucking terrifying when they show up because you're like, what the fuck is that? Because you don't know anything about them. You don't know how they work, what they do. But they've got a giant fucking health bar and they're doing some weird shit that makes you uncomfortable.
Starting point is 01:29:32 Right. And that's how you die most of the time, but just not knowing what's happening. And the amount of stuff in this game, I cannot recommend playing this game enough. Like, this is such a cool game. I'm so sad we never get any like big AAA like real time strategy games anymore. Like except for like fire embalm.
Starting point is 01:29:49 It's just fire ember. The only ones that are really like. Yeah, Fire Emblem and like Unicorn Overlord was like the recent one. That was really, really good. I wouldn't say that's AAA though. But yeah, is that true? What is triple A more at this point? Like like really big budget like.
Starting point is 01:30:00 Yeah. Yeah. Like because this game is fucking awesome. Like the length of the campaign and the depth of the strategy in this is like ridiculous. I mean, I haven't played any real time strategies for a while. Yeah, me neither. I haven't done it in so long, but I just had, I really had the itch to play it. And I'm so glad I did because this has been one of the genuinely most fun I've had playing a game in so long. Because it's just so rewarding.
Starting point is 01:30:23 Yeah. Like you get so invested in everything. It's so sick. Yeah, I kind of have to be in the mood to play something like this, you know? Oh, yeah, definitely, definitely. But, like, I know I do definitely enjoy this type of game because I like Fire Emblem. And, you know, I, there's a lot of term-based games that I was like super into as a kid. real-time strategy was always something. I feel like since StarCraft came out,
Starting point is 01:30:46 it was just like, I was the command and conga kids, but then everyone was like playing StarCraft, and I was like, this is, this is, this is way too above my level of map. Yeah, yeah. I've been, I don't know, there's something about 2010 sci-fi, just, it's quite nice.
Starting point is 01:30:59 There's something about it. The aliens, I don't know, the way that they're all depicted, I kind of love it. Right. Whereas like modern sci-fi, there's a lot more twist to it, like gardens of the galaxy's kind of style sci-fi.
Starting point is 01:31:08 It's kind of like more campy, kind of goofy. Kind of like that thing where it's like, like fucking aliens, man. And they're fucking, we don't know what the fuck is going on with them, but we gotta kill them. Yeah, I just love it. It is so sick.
Starting point is 01:31:18 One of my favorites star, sci-fi movies of all time, I didn't really know this was a cold classic till I grew up, I thought it was just a me as a kid thing. Yeah. Starship troopers. Oh, yeah. I mean, that's my dad's favorite movie. That checks out. That movie is so fucking good.
Starting point is 01:31:36 But my God, my dad, there was a point, I remember in my young life, where I swear my dad watched this movie every single fucking night for years. I don't know. Because my dad grew up with the book because it's originally based of a book. And it was like his favorite sci-fi book
Starting point is 01:31:55 of all time growing up. And this movie, yeah, he would just play it. And imagine it, like, you've seen the movie now, right? Like many times. Yes. The aliens in this are fucking terrifying. They are. I watched this as a kid. This, the fucking...
Starting point is 01:32:07 It scarred me as a child. Oh my God. The one scene with the movie. the brain alien. Oh. That still scares me to this day. I cannot rewatch that scene. Every time that comes up,
Starting point is 01:32:18 I'm like, I gotta look away. It's so scary. You've never watched this. You've never watched it. I loved Helldivers. Haldives are so fun. Yeah, this is basically helldive. Helldivers is basically just this movie.
Starting point is 01:32:27 This is, to this day, fucking terrifying. Yeah. But really epic. Talk about the perfect mix of campiness. Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:35 This is just it. I can't, like, as a kid, I didn't really, I thought it was just like a normal action movie. I'd never cottoned on to like some of the, you know, it taking itself too seriously or it being a parody. You know, it fucking walks that perfect line. Yeah. Of something that is self-aware, but also taking itself 100% seriously.
Starting point is 01:33:01 You know what, like, cool little tidbit I learned about this movie? You know that scene where like all of the army men and women are all in the shower together? Yeah. Apparently none of the actors wanted to film that part. because, you know, they're all fucking... There's this one scene where they're all naked together in the shower, right? And the only way that the director convinced them to do it
Starting point is 01:33:18 is the director films that scene also naked. Are you serious? He was like, I will get naked with you guys to do this scene because I need this scene in the movie and that's how they convince them to do that scene. That's so funny. And I'm like, that would be fucking weird. That's kind of like, maybe like no one asked.
Starting point is 01:33:37 It's like, wait, no, you... Yeah, it's like, no, no. That wasn't the problem. I don't want you. to be, in fact, that would make me more uncomfortable. Yeah. But the actors is like, all right. I don't find this fun.
Starting point is 01:33:47 Yeah, you do. If you love help, you'll love this movie. Yeah, what was, thinking back, what was up with that era of sci-fi movies? Because like, I think to, I think to like films like this, Robocop as well. Do you remember how like insane? I watched that as a kid. Insanely violent.
Starting point is 01:34:05 That scarred me as a kid. Oh my God. Some of the scenes of that, what's that, what's that? What's that? one with Arnold Schwarzenegger and he's in Mars or something like that. Oh, Total Recall. Total Recall as well. That's a fucking awesome movie.
Starting point is 01:34:19 You're just naming all my dad's favorite movies. My dad loves the hyper-violent sci-fi movies. Yeah, yeah. I think it's because, you know, late 90s, early 90s, like, sci-fi's peak, man. Because it was like, we just got computers that are, like, becoming mainstream. Oh, my God, more like this literally, literally. Fifth Element as well. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:34:37 Yeah. Dude, that one's exciting, you know. Dude, that one scene in Total Recall where, like, he's, He's on Mars and his like helmet snaps. Yeah. And then his eyes start fucking popping out. I've remembered that. I saw that in my nightmares growing up.
Starting point is 01:34:50 I've seen clips of this. Yeah. Yeah. That's on title of recall. Yeah. And the woman with the three boobs. Oh yeah. God, you are like unlocking some childhood memories, man.
Starting point is 01:35:00 Something I definitely should not. These are all movies that I involuntarily watched as a child because my dad would just keep watching. I do enjoy the fifth album. I watch it for the first time not too long ago. Oh, that's such a good movie. Yeah. Such a good movie. movie.
Starting point is 01:35:12 Yeah, I feel like sci-fi in the 90s was so peak. Yeah. I just love when these aliens are like, what the fuck are these things? Yeah. It's just so fun. Yeah, we don't really get movies like this anymore. Well, because I feel like fantasy's in right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:24 Fantasy is in right now. Technology is kind of sucks right now and it's scary. And I think we don't really enjoy. We don't look forward anymore. We're like, oh God, please go back. Yeah. So I think fantasy is like more of an escape isn't for a relationship. Because people right now, you know, fucking tin fall out on,
Starting point is 01:35:39 people just want to escape the way. world they live in right now, as opposed to be reminded of what it is like. That is the kind of vibe I get, because I still do really, really enjoy sci-fi, but I don't know why. Sometimes I see a sci-fi, I'm like, I'm not really like in the mood for this right now. It's not, it's not anything like too deep, but sometimes I'm trying to think of like a sci-fi thing that just came out, aside from Dune, of course. I think it's not traditional sci-fi, but I feel like it's certainly happened with Black Mirror where reality has gotten like black, black, black, mirror so black mirror as yeah now black mirror has kind of lost its punch it's got a little too
Starting point is 01:36:16 close to home yeah right where like black mirror is now just just shit that we deal with now yeah like the fucking i don't know if you watch the new season no uh it's it's it's fine yeah there's some good episodes some episodes i watched one episode i think and i was like yeah which was which episode did you watch the first one the the first one was just about how subscription models are fucking awful no i watched the one you don't need to tell me that but that's it right like Like before it was like, oh my God, the future is this. And then now it's just like, man, isn't tech just awful right now? I watched the one where memories can be recorded.
Starting point is 01:36:52 Oh, yeah, that one's not bad. That's one of the not bad ones. Really? Yeah, it was one of the not bad ones. Bro. I'm like, I was on board and then it was just like, damn, this chick going all this way to like, I don't know, it just got a little bit to, uh, this is, hey, this is a true crime. kind of like documentary on like the worst thing that could happen possibly and it just, I don't know, it just got a little bit unrealistic for me.
Starting point is 01:37:20 I think that's, oh wait, that's that, that episode? Wait, which one was that? There's a true crime one? No, no, no, no, no. But like, so the premise of this is that, uh, there's this girl in the sky who are dating, they're in a car, accidentally run over someone. The guy's like, I can't go to jail again. I can't go to jail.
Starting point is 01:37:37 We're going to go to jail. So she helps him hide the body. Um, and the memory of that was recorded or something like that. and then she's like, she lives with it. They move on with their lives. They break up. She starts a family, becomes, has a career. And then he comes back into her life.
Starting point is 01:37:54 And he's like, yo, I'm a born again now. You know, I feel really bad. I'm going to admit to this crime that I commit, that we committed. But I won't name you. But I'm going to, I'm going to say that we, that I committed this crime. I don't remember this episode. You don't remember this episode? On the new season?
Starting point is 01:38:14 I'm pretty sure it's from the new season. Maybe it's not from the new season. I feel like this isn't from this season. It might be from the previous season. Wait, okay. We go to black mirror episodes and see. Black mirror episodes. Because I want to see if God is misremembering this season or the season before.
Starting point is 01:38:29 Did you just make up a black mirror episode? I did not make up a black mirror episode. I was going to say, I've never heard of this. So go to seven. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Go up. Okay, keep going. There's only six episodes.
Starting point is 01:38:44 There's only six episodes. Are you sure it's not season six? It might be season six, dude. Shit. Wait, hold on. Or season five. Hold on. Let me load up my Netflix.
Starting point is 01:38:55 Let me load up my Netflix quickly. I swear to God, I was gonna say like, this does sound Black Mirror-esque, but I don't think this is from the new season. I, I, I swear to be from Wake season two or something. No. I swear to God it was a new season. Yeah, I only watched the first season.
Starting point is 01:39:13 seven had some really fucking awful episodes. Like just really shit episodes. Yeah, after season two, I kind of lost interest. Three had some good ones. And USS Callister, the first one was good. The second episode of it, they brought up a second episode of one of the episodes in this season. It was fine.
Starting point is 01:39:32 There was three decent to fine episodes and three episodes that were fucking awful. Right. And that's the problem is that oftentimes I feel more jibes. from a really bad episode. Oh my God, it's from season four. Okay. Ignore what I said.
Starting point is 01:39:49 Which one is this? It's called crocodile. An insurance agent investigates a minor traffic incident. Oh, yeah. Using an advice that manifests people's memories. Oh, I watched common people. Fuck, that wasn't, bro. What season is that?
Starting point is 01:40:02 That's season seven. Common people. Yeah. Okay, common people. Yeah, that's one with the subscriptions, where she's dead and, yeah, yeah, he has to pay a subscription to keep her alive. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:13 I just blank that from my memory Well so it's like she's like brain dead And they offer hey look for $10 a month we can we can like Store a version of a brain in the cloud And then it will work on her so she can be alive Right But then like every few months in this world
Starting point is 01:40:30 They're like hey we've we're up in the subscription price But then if you don't buy the new one She'll just spam ads So she'll be around she'll start verbally saying ad reads Yeah see that Like a YouTube Yeah, like that sounds cool as a concept, but I feel like I won't enjoy watching that because it just hits a little too. Like, that's going to happen soon. Yeah. I have a feeling. No, not the exact thing, but like, yeah, we're not far off. Google Drive is going to do something similar to that eventually. Yeah, true. You want to see your files? 5.5.000. Okay. This is weird. I think there's this like, like this balance, right? Where in terms of like the media I want to or like, in terms of like a fictional story, like a movie or something, if something is, like, something is. a little two on the nose and relevant.
Starting point is 01:41:15 I'm just, for some reason, I'm just like, I'm out. Yeah. You know. And I think that's the problem with a lot of modern sci-fi is that there is that and that also counterintuitively also answers the question as to why fantasy is so big right now because fantasy will never get to that point. Yeah. Because it's so far away from anything in our reality that it's like, oh, there's no like uncanniness to it. Yeah. And we can just enjoy it because, oh, we'll never have to worry about orcs and gobbons being a thing because it'll never be. Yeah, because like, I think one of the the reasons I start getting a little bit more disinterested, because there's a few shows I've
Starting point is 01:41:47 done this, where I'm like, this is a great show, but it's like too on the nose that I don't mean, yeah. Like the latest example I think of is probably like the boys, where I'm like, okay, hyper-capitalistic world. I'm like, okay, this is very, very relevant. And it's getting to the point where I'm like, this is starting to feel a bit too close to home, you know? Yeah, I guess when it's kind of like talking about what you're just living through. It's kind of like, fuck's sake. Yeah. Don't remind me.
Starting point is 01:42:18 Because I think there's such a subtle balance between like, for me, a message that really hits me that I think is relevant to this day and age that isn't like 100% on the nose of things. And the best example I could think of is actually like something like orb, for example. Yeah. Well, I think the message it preaches is, you know, hey, listen to the other side. You know, there's always, it's not exactly, I have no energy. It's, you know, all you need to do is just listen, and that's how we progress as species together,
Starting point is 01:42:49 which I think is a message that is very relevant today, but never at one point did I feel like, oh, they're writing about modern times, you know. Yeah, it's also not overly preachy either. Yeah. Whereas the boys are like, the Republicans going to be the senator and he's working with Homelander. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Who's Trump?
Starting point is 01:43:07 And you're like, what the fuck is like, I, yeah. It just feels like Gugu Gaga like virtue, not, or something, but like explanation of like, you are not capable enough to understand current times. Let me tell it through superheroes. Yeah. Well, it almost feels like, and this is the problem with Black Mirror as well.
Starting point is 01:43:25 It almost feels like, hey, we're going to make a wacky parody of reality, and then you realize the more you live, the modern day, the more you're like, this isn't no parody. This isn't even a parody. Yeah, I mean, I think that's the problem, right? Is that Black Mirror, at least when it started,
Starting point is 01:43:40 it felt like it was just trying to show you an interesting concept in a world. Yeah. With the world rules. An interesting idea. Yeah. Whereas I think people felt like, well, this is kind of relevant to us running on the treadmill. That's funny. Like, that could be us one day.
Starting point is 01:43:55 Yeah. Where it went from like seeing similarities in our current lives and current worlds to just being a comment on our current world. Yeah. Which I felt like kind of removed the point. Yeah. When you think of to like the best. Lackmare episodes, like, yeah, White Christmas.
Starting point is 01:44:14 I don't think like, wow, that's terrifying. That could happen to us. It's like, here's just a fucking story about a guy and it's fucking terrifying. It's not about like preaching a message of like, this tech is bad. It's like, yeah, let's just take an isolated story where this one tech just felt particularly terrifying in this guy's life. And I think that's exactly why like so many 90 sci-fi movies are even to this day so fucking good and was so sought after back in the time because it's like they don't yeah they don't get
Starting point is 01:44:43 overly preachy with it and when they do show like a new tech that may or may not become like a reality in the near future they don't they don't you know it's not like completely black and white it's like very gray it's like yeah there are some great things about this but here's the scary side of it that the story you know that the story is going to cover but you know at the end of the day it can still be optimistic depending on how you view it right like they leave it kind of up to interpretation. And that, I think back in the day, excited a lot of people being like, oh, this is, this could be a reality that could be really, really cool. But then you'd have someone else being like, no, that's kind of scary, dog. I don't want that. And that conversation
Starting point is 01:45:19 was interesting. But nowadays, as you said, it's like, it's either too close to home, too preachy, or it's just like too real. And sometimes people are like, oh, you don't want politician. It's like, no, that's not. No, that's not. No, that's not. Because like, it's like, it's like, Final Fantasy, like, you know, Final Fantasy 7, you know, one of the big messages like, you know, corporations, you know, using natural resources, you know, destroying the earth via, like, extraction. It would be, it would hit a lot less hard if he, if fucking cloud had to consider his carbon tax and like talking about greenhouse gases, it just wouldn't hit the same, right?
Starting point is 01:45:51 What do you mean, Shimra's taking 27%? Like, what are you? I'm fucked up. Shinnra. Shinra is buying carbon taxes and it's not even actually doing anything to offset its Carbon neutrality? Like, no, it wouldn't hit. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:46:03 Like, the reason why it hits is because it's, it makes sense in the context of the world. Yeah, in Greta Thunberg, like, shows up. Yeah, Greta fucking Thunberg shows up in Act 3. It's like, no, that's not. The secret boss. Final Fantasy 7. That's not what we want.
Starting point is 01:46:16 Like, that's, that's not what we're trying to say. It's just, it's so brain dead. People have no nuance in this conversation. I'm able to think for themselves and understand. It's like, just because you react, you see, like, the over-drawn-out comparison between like the boys and the, you know, the current political climate, doesn't mean you fucking don't like politics or don't want to engage in.
Starting point is 01:46:37 And like, it's just fucking like you don't want to, you can be shoved down your throat at the similarities. Yeah. Treat it like a toddler. Because that's what it feels like. Yeah. Like I said, you know, with some of those examples, it's like you don't want it to be too on the nose.
Starting point is 01:46:49 You want it to be subtle enough that you're like can still, can still vibe with the message without having to be like, oh, okay, I'm just living this reality right now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Did you watch Mickey 17? I didn't know.
Starting point is 01:47:04 Oh, what's that? It's the new Robin Patton film. Yeah, by the director of Parasite. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. I like the movie. I like Robert Patton a lot in the movie, obviously, because I'm a Robenton Simp.
Starting point is 01:47:18 We all know this. But, like, Mark Ruffalo's character is just Trump. And, like, it's just like, I understand why, obviously, but it's just kind of annoying because you're like, God damn it. We couldn't have just like figures out a different character. Because you're just like, God damn it.
Starting point is 01:47:35 It's just Trump if he was in space in this world. It's just so infuriating. It's just like, what the fuck is this, man? And it's fine. But again, it just feels too parody of current times. Like my least favorite part of Pluto, actually, was that they just had this entire, like, the big part of this arc was just like,
Starting point is 01:47:55 was just, right, there's robots of mass destruction in Iraq. All this country in the Middle East. I'm like, okay, this is this unnamed country. Yeah, I'm like, maybe in 50 years, that might all come around and no one, you know, a lot of people, kids at that caron area might not know much about that time. And it might be kind of interesting.
Starting point is 01:48:17 But like right now, you're like, ooh, oh, okay, they found robots of mass destruction in Iraq, huh? Yeah. I'm like, can be a little bit more subtle with your messaging or your, you know. I mean, let me think about it just a little bit in terms of like what the metaphor you're trying to tell me. I feel like if you're like that close, just go full backy and just fucking meet George Bush at the time. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:48:44 Just fucking send it. Like don't even try and like pretend like it's like serious, you know? It's like, oh, President Bush, there's robots in Iraq, I'll single-handily destroy them all. We're sending in Yuzhiro. Handle Iraq. Like, what? What the fuck? But at least it would be so dumb that it'd be like, fair enough.
Starting point is 01:49:01 Yeah. I can't complain. Yeah. Like you could probably stop them. Yeah. It could stuff anyone. Oh, Chris. No, because you know it would be some peak like, Mr. President, I am not loyal to any nation.
Starting point is 01:49:15 And I am the only weapon of mass destruction. I say if, if bombs get fired. That's what would happen. Yeah. Oh, my God. That's what this. There was a time when I saw the use of. of social media as a narrative tool in films and TV shows.
Starting point is 01:49:33 I'm like, oh, yeah, this is, this is exciting thing. Films and TV shows are adding like social media, the social media side to it. And now I see it, and I'm just like, I hate it. Damn, this is, this is already outdated by the time this film is made. You know what I mean? Yeah, totally.
Starting point is 01:49:46 But also, people are so fucking dumb on social media in real life. Yeah. When they're as dumb in a movie, it's so infuriating. Yeah. There's no way that this should be that dumb. But it's true. It is. But that's infuriating between,
Starting point is 01:49:58 reminded. I actually think they're not dumb enough in movies, you know. Sometimes I see like a line or something about some, a way someone acted on social media. And I'm like, kind of understanding it actually. I'm like, they'd be way more racist in real life. This is supposed to be Instagram? Brother. I don't believe it. I'm not going to believe it until I see a deep fried meme in one of the movies. You're trying to tell me the top five comments on Instagram, don't have a slur. I just don't believe you. I'm sorry. I just don't believe you. Like, dude, I'm scrolling to Instagram the other day.
Starting point is 01:50:33 And there was a video of this woman who like, it was like an inspirational video where she was like riding a fake horse. And she like, I guess injured herself. And the video was about her getting over injury. Yeah. And jumping over these like horse things. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:46 While holding like an equestrian thing. Yeah. And then the top comment was like, why is this? Why is this on my racism map? And I was like, this is terrible. And then I had like 150,000 likes that comment. I was like, what is going on? This is ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:51:03 People are getting way too comfortable seeing dumb shit. But then like anytime I see anything on like any kind of social media on any movie or anything now, I just like minus 0.5 score in my head. Yeah. I just enjoy it less. I don't know why. Is it justified? Absolutely not. I just enjoy it less when I see it.
Starting point is 01:51:23 Yeah. It's because we're on it. That's why. I hate it. I hate it. I don't know if it's because it's our job, so we're just hyper aware of it. But yeah, it's just, yeah, I remember like,
Starting point is 01:51:32 I really liked O'Shenoko when I started it because they added this social media side of it. And now that I've seen more and more pieces of media, just add this kind of like side to it, sometimes I'm just actually put off by it. I'm like, I've seen Niko Niko comments. They're not this nice. Yeah, no fucking way.
Starting point is 01:51:48 That's fucked up. You tell me one of a stalker killed her, but there are no mean comments on the video? Yeah. Unlikely. Unlikely. Especially when I see people on social media coming together to, oh my God, I don't think I could ever watch Summer Wars again. Like, holy shit.
Starting point is 01:52:04 Dude, I watched it the other day actually. Did you actually? I watched the other day and I was just cackling because like, yeah, there's that scene where like, you know, everyone's like typing in comments to, uh, Kazima to like, you know, power up and everything. And I'm like, not a single racist comment. Unlikely. The internet coming together over something wholesome. Yeah, it's like, nah, that's not happening. The only way it would be relevant now is if it was like,
Starting point is 01:52:26 he was trying to get like some kind of racism lawsuit funded. Yeah. And then they would be like, he'd get so many racist people giving him money. Like, I need to power up. Send me dick pics. The only way that I could actually believe this is if she was a fucking V-tuber, and she was graduating. And that, that's it. That's the only way I see this many wholesome comments.
Starting point is 01:52:48 I need to destroy this virus. Red superchats are the only way I can power up. Send them to. me. Oh my God. I hope you enjoy this episode of Trash Taste this week. Wow, what a way to end it.
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